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Raiders gearing up for dynamic Newton; Pryor playing more Sunday

When a play breaks down against the Carolina Panthers, the Raiders won’t have Brady Quinn to bail them out this time.
No, the Raiders know they’re in for a stern test Sunday when they get their first look at second-year quarterback Cam Newton, one of the numerous dynamic quarterbacks that entered the NFL the past two seasons.
Newton struggled early this season on the heels of a transcendent rookie season in which he passed for 4,051 yards and 21 touchdowns and rushed for 706 yards and 14 touchdowns.
But Newton of late is looking more and more like the player many expected to see in his second season. He has 10 touchdowns and no interceptions in his past five games, as well as 293 yards and three touchdowns rushing.
Raiders coach Dennis Allen said game-planning for Newton is a handful.
“He creates a lot of other issues that you have to worry about,” Allen said. “You have to worry about him in the passing game. just scrambling around and keeping the play alive. Obviously, they use him in a lot of different ways in the running game also. He presents some unique challenges. He’s obviously a tremendous talent.”
Newton, 6-foot-5 and 248 pounds, is a threat to run at any time. For instance, he rambled for 72 yards and a touchdown against the Falcons a couple of games ago on a designed play.
Even so, Raiders defensive backs can’t leave their assignments too early if Newton shows run, for rish of Newton pulling up and throwing the ball over the top.
“You don’t come off,” Huff said. “When he’s scrambling around, you really have no idea. Especially, our back will be turned, so you gotta cover until you think it’s two, three seconds later.”
Raiders middle linebacker Omar Gaither spent one season with the Panthers and went up against Newton in practice every day. He said defenders have to be wary of Newton to run at any time.
“He’s big and fast,” Gaither said. “If he were playing a different position it would probably be defensive end. And a guy who can run. He has every tool you need in a quarterback, and he can beat you with his feet. So you basically need to keep him in front and contain him on the edges. You see the highlights every week of him getting a 60-yard scamper. Those are the kind of things that kill your defense. You just have to contain him.”
Raiders outside linebacker Philip Wheeler played against Newton last season, when Wheeler was with the Colts. He said the key is swarming Newton and getting as many bodies on him as possible.
“It’s just very important to stay disciplined in your responsibilities,” Wheeler said.

– Sebastian Janikowski won the fan portion of the voting for the Pro Bowl. He’s one-third of the way to his second straight Pro Bowl selection.
The man standing in his way is Phil Dawson, the kicker who spent 1998 in the Raiders training camp after signing as an undrafted free agent out of Texas.
Dawson has converted 26 of 27 field-goal attempts this season. Janikowski is 29 of 32, with his misses coming from 51, 61 and 64 yards.
Coaches and players each get one-third of the voting, too. Selections will be announced Wednesday at 4 p.m. on NFL Network.

– The Raiders are last in the league in rushing touchdowns this season, with three.
To put that in perspective, only three teams since the merger in 1970 had fewer in a season. And Buccaneers rookie running back Doug Martin had four rushing touchdowns against the Raiders in their game Nov. 4.
Worse, the Raiders had 16 rushing touchdowns last season and 19 in 2010. Hue Jackson called plays during both seasons. Also, five times during Jackson’s two seasons, the Raiders had at least three rushing touchdowns in a game.

– Second-year quarterback Terrelle Pryor will be used on some third-down and red-zone plays against the Panthers so that the Raiders “can create a different look the defense to contend with” and “try to use some of his athletic ability.”
Pryor played one series last Sunday against the Chiefs. The series consisted of two hand-offs and an incomplete pass from Pryor to wide receiver Darrius Hewyard-Bey.
Pryor has spent the better part of his two NFL seasons biding his time, learning from Carson Palmer and Matt Leinart and working on his accuracy, timing, mechanics and footwork.
Now he’s ready to take his game for a test drive, which means for more than three plays. Until that happens, Pryor said he doesn’t want to hear about any comparisons to Newton, Robert Griffin III and Colin Kaepernick.
“When it’s time for me, and I really get a lot of reps and get comfortable, I’ll have success,” Pryor said. “I really, truly believe that. Right now I’m just waiting. Right now I don’t want to compare myself to Kaepernick or Cam or any of those guys because them guys and Griffin have proved it. I haven’t proved anything.
“I can’t really say I’d be like them. I don’t know what I’m going to be like because I haven’t even played yet. I can tell from practice and certain plays that they run and certain plays that I run, I could tell I can do that in practice. It’s not when people are watching, so I can’t really compare myself to them.”
Raiders offensive coordinator Greg Knapp is watching at practice, and he said he likes what he sees from Pryor these days.
“I’ve definitely seen the progress during practice on his mechanics, the rhythm of his throws and the consistency of his footwork,” Knapp said. “He has taken to coaching very well. (Quarterbacks coach) John DeFilippo should get a lot of credit because he has spent a lot of time with him, as far as working on the individual part of the game.”
Pryor said he is satisfied with the improvements he has made since training camp, especially his accuracy and footwork. Getting a taste of what it’s like in a regular-season game gave him added confidence.
“I wasn’t really nervous because I studied them so much it was like second nature when I got to the line,” Pryor said. “Obviously, there’s a tiny bit of nerves. Obviously, I would have liked to play a little more and had a couple of different plays I’d really want to use, but I got an opportunity to get on the field and that’s a step from where I was. I can’t really complain. I’m just grateful my coaches let me get on the field.”

– Stat of the day: On passes longer than 20 yards downfield, Palmer is 10 of 50 (20 percent) for 432 yards, with three touchdowns and three interceptions. He went 16 of 45 (35.6 percent) for 618 yards, with six touchdowns and two interceptions last season.

– Defensive tackle Richard Seymour has missed the past six games with a hamstring injury. He hasn’t practiced yet this week, so it’s likely that he is headed for a seventh straight missed game.
Therefore, Allen said, it’s possible that the Raiders will just shut down Seymour and place him on the injured-reserve list.

— Allen and Palmer raved about Panthers middle linebacker Luke Kuechly on Wednesday. Today, it was Knapp’s turn to sing the rookie’s praises.
“When I see a rookie linebacker tackle Tony Gonzalez pretty handily, then get up and not back down, because Tony gets up and tries to shrug him off, and he gets right back in it, and you see it happen two or three more times in the game, you know the guy’s got a little something to him,” Knapp said of Kuechly. “So it does show up on tape. He’s always around the ball. He’s fast to react and he has pretty good instincts, so that does show up on tape.”
Isolate on Kuechly during Sunday’s game. Trust me, it’s worth your investment if you want to see how the middle linebacker position should be played and what you have missed out of Rolando McClain the past three seasons.
Then, factor in that both were selected in the top 10 of the NFL draft — McClain in 2010, Kuechly in April — both won the Butkus Award as the nation’s top collegiate linebacker and you will get a sense for how important it is that a team have a solid scouting department.
Several people cautioned Al Davis about using a first-round pick on McClain. A few others were enamored with McClain. The latter persuaded Davis to draft McClain.

– Heyward-Bey was held without a catch against the Chiefs, marking the second time in four games that he didn’t catch any passes and the third time in 14 games this season.
Knapp said Heyward-Bey’s health is fine and that that’s just how it works out from time to time.
“It’s not by design,” Knapp said. “It’s just the way things have played out. Kind of the same thing happened with Denarius (Moore) for a couple of games. Even, you could say the same thing is true for Brandon (Myers); it’s sometimes the way the game plays out. It’s not by design, but it’s just the ball has been delivered other places because of coverage and/or progressions, but it’s not by game plan.”

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  • Raider-in-PA

    Lol. It shows that Mark is a trendsetter and maverick. He’s gonna do things HIS way.
    ————————-
    He should set the trend of shaving his head….lol
    I guess when you have that much loot, you dont give a f@ck what your hair looks like!

  • DJ Johnny

    448.cwolfman Says:
    December 21st, 2012 at 8:45 am
    RaiderLen Says:
    December 21st, 2012 at 7:56 am

    http://network.yardbarker.com/nfl/article_external/raiders_dt_richard_seymour_has_contract_voided_will_become_a_free_agent_at_seasons_end/12410152

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    Morning Fellas,

    I found the above regarding Seymours deal.

    It voided the last 4 years and 30 mil because He missed 5 consecutive games.
    ==============================================

    Thanks RaiderLen.. Good info for everyone.

    Just for clarification, Mark STILL owes him the 5.2 mill (that’ll be dead money against the cap) regardless correct?

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Newton is in the midst of his most efficient streak since being the No. 1 draft pick as the Heisman Trophy winner from Auburn in 2011. He hasn’t thrown an interception in 152 passes, the longest current streak in the NFL.
    In a 30-20 win over Atlanta on Dec. 9, Newton ripped off a 72-yard touchdown run, the fifth-longest by a quarterback in the Super Bowl era.
    At 6-foot-5, 245pounds, Newton has the size of a defensive end or tight end and the athleticism of a running back or wide receiver, a skill set that just happens to be attached to one of the game’s top throwing arms.

    ===================

    and to think 99% of these clowns on this board said he would never make it.

    This dude is rewriting he nfl record book and he and rgIII will be 2 of the greatest players the league has ever seen!!!!

    This is why I am dying to see pryor. He doesnt have to be as good as those two, but he can be close.

    He is faster not quite the passer.

    He is capable of scoring on evrey single snap and he cant get on the filed?!?!?

    Because the coaches dont want controversy?!?!?

    FIRE THESE LOSERS!!!!!

  • Al_is_theraiders

    raidersam…the problem is that what free agent will want to come here on a 1 year contract? Only washed up, injury prone, almost out of the league guys. Add to that the word getting around on how DA and Reggie treat their players…players talk. Do you really think hanson can cover megatron? Fitzgerald? thomas? Reggie set up a terrible precedent, he needs to do a complete 180…

  • DJ Johnny

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    December 21st, 2012 at 8:41 am
    “We’ve got the closest guy to him right here in Terrelle Pryor,” said running back Mike Goodson, a teammate of Newton’s last year.
    Pryor, 6-foot-4, 233 pounds, has been simulating Newton this week, running read option plays and taking off on scrambles, passing in some instances and running in others.

    Did Pryor shrink? I’ve always seen him listed as 6’6.

  • bcz24

    How they treat their players? What, they bench you if you don’t give maximum effort? Yeah, thats not a message you want getting around the league…

  • Marks hair

    Theres no qb controversy when the playoffs are out of reach.. tp should have started the last few games.. If we pass on a franchise QB in the draft because we didn’t bother to evaluate tp.. oh fùck….

  • Al_is_theraiders

    another myth…the defense did better the last game…are they learning tarvers scheme or are the chiefs that bad? Watch the game again….80% man…earlier in the season? 90% zone…they changed scheme…sane with the zbs, they added more power…trying to save their jobs.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?!?!?

    You finally noticed pryor because you had him imitating cams read option and scrambling. You had him run panther plays and noticed he can throw?!?!?

    NOW DO YOU KNOW WHY I SAID PUT PRYOR IN THE PISTOL OR SHOTGUN AND LET HIM READ OPTION WITH DMAC AND REECE?!?!? IF NO NOTHING FANS LIKE ME KNOW THIS

    WHY DIDNT ALLEN AND KNAPP?!?!?!

    BIG MACK RID US OF THESE BLIND CLOWNS!!!!!

  • Al_is_theraiders

    taiwann has gotten how much playing time? pryor? ausberry? dmac talent wasted? coach wiz left? briesel gets a pass? adams fumbles? you get what you ask for…good practice players.

  • Marks hair

    Theres so many reasons to get tp on the field and no logical reasons to keep him on the bench.. these coaches are pure shìt

  • Charlie

    Some of you have talked about Carroll arriving in Seattle as the real reason behind Seattle’s’ resurgence. Something we in Oakland have a right to expect. Immediate fix without doing the basics such as drafting well and building in the box talent.
    Take a look at Seattle’s top two picks in the last six drafts and you will see that 9 OF THE 12 PICKS WERE TAKEN ON IN THE BOX PLAYERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mr. Davis would not let that happen. That was Cable’s preference all along and he said so in interviews. I watched them. It is a primary reason he was not retained.
    FURTHER, MANY OF YOU ON THIS BLOG THOUGHT CABLE WAS A BUFFOON. WRONG AGAIN. HE OBVIOUSLY IS A KEY PART OF SEATTLE’S TURNAROUND!!!!!!!

    “Ask any Seattle player, and he will speak of how important Cable has been. He has helped give Seattle its physical mindset. (Running back Marshawn) Lynch even waited for reassurance that Cable would be back for 2012 before he agreed to re-sign.”
    Schefter opined that Cable is on track to be considered for another head coaching gig in the NFL based on the wonders he has worked with the Seahawks.

    Moral of the story; Draft well and build your lines with high picks. Build your foundation through the draft and the wins will follow. The coaches then seem much smarter don’t they? That is why franchises like the Giants and Packers and Ravens and Steelers are successful. They have continuity in their coaches. They all have some assistant moves but the basic structure stays consistent.
    That is what is needed in OAKLAND. The problem is far more a lack of talent on the field than lacking a cerebral fix from the press box.
    OUR DRAFTS FOR THE LAST TEN YEARS ARE WORSE THAT AT ANY TIME IN FRANCHISE HISTORY:
    JR, BUCHANON, WASHINGTON, BRAYTON, HARRIS, TEYO JOHNSON, McCLAIN, GALLERY, GROVE ETC. ETC. AWFUL!!!!!

    Also please remain silent on what you should expect of Reggie and this new regime.
    He is missing 75% of his top four picks with his first two drafts and he was way over the cap in his first year. He actually had to install computers for the scouting department and fire all the incumbents!!!!!! Name a recent one year turn around with that barrier in front of a staff.
    Every circumstance is different and they are far more complicated than many of you seem to comprehend. Sure a coach can “HELP” improve a situation. It is not exclusively a coaching change that is involved. There a multiple factors that converge to create a winner. I have said repeatedly coaching is about 20 % of the equation. On field talent is far more important. Under close scrutiny, ALL seemingly quick fixes were preceded by several years of solid, unspectacular drafts especially “in the box “that built a solid core. (See Seattle).

    It is time to realize immediate gratification is for kids, not adults. If you cannot handle the fact that we have been mismanaged for a decade, follow another team. This is a 3-5 year project unlike anything that has ever existed in the NFL. A COMPLETE AND TOTAL MAKEOVER.

  • Marks hair

    FIRE THIS STAFF!

  • Al_is_theraiders

    sam have you seen reggies picks at gb? a lot more whiffs than players…a lot.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    tebow and sanchez are out in nj, and they are giving macelroy the start.

    Tebow was a free agent and sanchez the 5th overall draft choice, and they get sent to the bench

    WHY THE FUGG IS PALMER STILL STARTING IN OAKLAND??!?!
    19 turn overs against 22 tds and a 4-10 record are not good enough reasons for him to start these last few games.

    He should have been retired to the bench last week.

    Pryor has forced the coaches to play him more because of the wows he earned running cam newtons offense for the scout team

    meanwhile kappy wilson rgIII and newton are setting the nfl on fire

    Did big mck and davis have a hand in pryor getting an increased role?

    on monday allen said pryors role would be the same as i was last week.

    so pryor running scout team trying to imitate brady quinn wasnt impressive, but the minute he was in an offense that fit him he tore practice up?

    THESE ARE THE WORST COACHES I HAVE EVER SEEN, FAILING TO PLAY PRYOR BEFORE NOW IS INEXCUSABLE!!!

    FIRE THESE MUTHERFUGGERZ!!!!!

  • cwolfman

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    December 21st, 2012 at 9:00 am

    sam have you seen reggies picks at gb? a lot more whiffs than players…a lot.
    ===================================

    Do you have a list of the players he has picked at GB? I’m not trying to be a smart @ss. I just have never seen a list of the players “he” picked.

  • bcz24

    464.Al_is_theraiders Says:
    December 21st, 2012 at 9:00 am
    sam have you seen reggies picks at gb? a lot more whiffs than players…a lot.
    *********
    Should Belechick be fired then? His recent drafts have been less than spectacular.

  • DKnight007

    – The Raiders are last in the league in rushing touchdowns this season, with three.
    To put that in perspective, only three teams since the merger in 1970 had fewer in a season. And Buccaneers rookie running back Doug Martin had four rushing touchdowns against the Raiders in their game Nov. 4.
    Worse, the Raiders had 16 rushing touchdowns last season and 19 in 2010. Hue Jackson called plays during both seasons. Also, five times during Jackson’s two seasons, the Raiders had at least three rushing touchdowns in a game.

    – Second-year quarterback Terrelle Pryor will be used on some third-down and red-zone plays against the Panthers so that the Raiders “can create a different look the defense to contend with” and “try to use some of his athletic ability.”
    Pryor played one series last Sunday against the Chiefs. The series consisted of two hand-offs and an incomplete pass from Pryor to wide receiver Darrius Hewyard-Bey.
    Pryor has spent the better part of his two NFL seasons biding his time, learning from Carson Palmer and Matt Leinart and working on his accuracy, timing, mechanics and footwork.
    Now he’s ready to take his game for a test drive, which means for more than three plays. Until that happens, Pryor said he doesn’t want to hear about any comparisons to Newton, Robert Griffin III and Colin Kaepernick.
    “When it’s time for me, and I really get a lot of reps and get comfortable, I’ll have success,” Pryor said. “I really, truly believe that. Right now I’m just waiting. Right now I don’t want to compare myself to Kaepernick or Cam or any of those guys because them guys and Griffin have proved it. I haven’t proved anything.
    “I can’t really say I’d be like them. I don’t know what I’m going to be like because I haven’t even played yet. I can tell from practice and certain plays that they run and certain plays that I run, I could tell I can do that in practice. It’s not when people are watching, so I can’t really compare myself to them.”
    Raiders offensive coordinator Greg Knapp is watching at practice, and he said he likes what he sees from Pryor these days.
    “I’ve definitely seen the progress during practice on his mechanics, the rhythm of his throws and the consistency of his footwork,” Knapp said. “He has taken to coaching very well. (Quarterbacks coach) John DeFilippo should get a lot of credit because he has spent a lot of time with him, as far as working on the individual part of the game.”
    Pryor said he is satisfied with the improvements he has made since training camp, especially his accuracy and footwork. Getting a taste of what it’s like in a regular-season game gave him added confidence.
    “I wasn’t really nervous because I studied them so much it was like second nature when I got to the line,” Pryor said. “Obviously, there’s a tiny bit of nerves. Obviously, I would have liked to play a little more and had a couple of different plays I’d really want to use, but I got an opportunity to get on the field and that’s a step from where I was. I can’t really complain. I’m just grateful my coaches let me get on the field.”

    – Stat of the day: On passes longer than 20 yards downfield, Palmer is 10 of 50 (20 percent) for 432 yards, with three touchdowns and three interceptions. He went 16 of 45 (35.6 percent) for 618 yards, with six touchdowns and two interceptions last season.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Should have been using Pryor in those situations earlier in the season insetad of deactivating him and have him do nothing.

    More stats below showing how much Hue Jackson OWNS both DA and his crappy Knapp!

    The staff and team is a joke.

    So glad I didn’t waste my time and money with this crap coaching staff trying and failing to lead this team this season. They didn’t even have a season! Lol!

  • Al_is_theraiders

    yeah i posted a few days ago…the funny thing is, when a player works out (raji) he says he was instrumental in getting him here, he scouted him and insisted that he be drafted. But when a player flops…he only scouted him.

  • Al_is_theraiders

    belechik has brady…end of story…reggie is no belechik

  • DKnight007

    465.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    December 21st, 2012 at 9:07 am
    tebow and sanchez are out in nj, and they are giving macelroy the start.

    Tebow was a free agent and sanchez the 5th overall draft choice, and they get sent to the bench

    WHY THE FUGG IS PALMER STILL STARTING IN OAKLAND??!?!
    19 turn overs against 22 tds and a 4-10 record are not good enough reasons for him to start these last few games.

    He should have been retired to the bench last week.

    Pryor has forced the coaches to play him more because of the wows he earned running cam newtons offense for the scout team

    meanwhile kappy wilson rgIII and newton are setting the nfl on fire

    Did big mck and davis have a hand in pryor getting an increased role?

    on monday allen said pryors role would be the same as i was last week.

    so pryor running scout team trying to imitate brady quinn wasnt impressive, but the minute he was in an offense that fit him he tore practice up?

    THESE ARE THE WORST COACHES I HAVE EVER SEEN, FAILING TO PLAY PRYOR BEFORE NOW IS INEXCUSABLE!!!

    FIRE THESE MUTHERFUGGERZ!!!!!

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Yeah, it’s too bad we didn’t get to see CP work a full season with Hue and his offense.

    Instead CP was probably wondering WTF when Hue was let go and then DA hired bad retread in Knapp as OC.

    CP knew this season was going to be joke. Half the players and team probably did.

    They are going to get rolled by Carolina Sunday.

  • Al_is_theraiders

    also…how many guys has reggue signed this year only to let them go again…he is in over his head…its not fantasy football.

  • DKnight007

    462.Charlie Says:
    December 21st, 2012 at 8:59 am
    Some of you have talked about Carroll arriving in Seattle as the real reason behind Seattle’s’ resurgence. Something we in Oakland have a right to expect. Immediate fix without doing the basics such as drafting well and building in the box talent.
    Take a look at Seattle’s top two picks in the last six drafts and you will see that 9 OF THE 12 PICKS WERE TAKEN ON IN THE BOX PLAYERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mr. Davis would not let that happen. That was Cable’s preference all along and he said so in interviews. I watched them. It is a primary reason he was not retained.
    FURTHER, MANY OF YOU ON THIS BLOG THOUGHT CABLE WAS A BUFFOON. WRONG AGAIN. HE OBVIOUSLY IS A KEY PART OF SEATTLE’S TURNAROUND!!!!!!!

    “Ask any Seattle player, and he will speak of how important Cable has been. He has helped give Seattle its physical mindset. (Running back Marshawn) Lynch even waited for reassurance that Cable would be back for 2012 before he agreed to re-sign.”
    Schefter opined that Cable is on track to be considered for another head coaching gig in the NFL based on the wonders he has worked with the Seahawks.

    Moral of the story; Draft well and build your lines with high picks. Build your foundation through the draft and the wins will follow. The coaches then seem much smarter don’t they? That is why franchises like the Giants and Packers and Ravens and Steelers are successful. They have continuity in their coaches. They all have some assistant moves but the basic structure stays consistent.
    That is what is needed in OAKLAND. The problem is far more a lack of talent on the field than lacking a cerebral fix from the press box.
    OUR DRAFTS FOR THE LAST TEN YEARS ARE WORSE THAT AT ANY TIME IN FRANCHISE HISTORY:
    JR, BUCHANON, WASHINGTON, BRAYTON, HARRIS, TEYO JOHNSON, McCLAIN, GALLERY, GROVE ETC. ETC. AWFUL!!!!!

    Also please remain silent on what you should expect of Reggie and this new regime.
    He is missing 75% of his top four picks with his first two drafts and he was way over the cap in his first year. He actually had to install computers for the scouting department and fire all the incumbents!!!!!! Name a recent one year turn around with that barrier in front of a staff.
    Every circumstance is different and they are far more complicated than many of you seem to comprehend. Sure a coach can “HELP” improve a situation. It is not exclusively a coaching change that is involved. There a multiple factors that converge to create a winner. I have said repeatedly coaching is about 20 % of the equation. On field talent is far more important. Under close scrutiny, ALL seemingly quick fixes were preceded by several years of solid, unspectacular drafts especially “in the box “that built a solid core. (See Seattle).

    It is time to realize immediate gratification is for kids, not adults. If you cannot handle the fact that we have been mismanaged for a decade, follow another team. This is a 3-5 year project unlike anything that has ever existed in the NFL. A COMPLETE AND TOTAL MAKEOVER.

    ^^^^^^^^^^
    Oh oh….here we go with the follow another team crap and making excuses for the mistakes that Davis and McK made by hiring DA as head coach. (a freaking donkey coach)

    When DA was hired old man Al was probably rolling in his grave.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    cam newton has 7000 yards passing and 1300 yards rushing over the last two years

    This has never been by a second year player and im not certain it has ever happened in a two year span.

    These loser have let pryor rot on the bench and dont have the offensive mind (knapp) to be creative like wash or sea or sf or carolina.

    These coaching hires were an abysmal failure

  • DKnight007

    424.RaiderSam Says:
    December 21st, 2012 at 8:26 am
    Bcz24 Says:
    December 21st, 2012 at 8:22 am
    Lets try this a different way. You want to fire reggie for spreading out sey’s cap hit… So, you are saying you want to PAY Reggie NOT to work here anymore, AND pay someone MORE (because no one is coming to an organization that fires a GM in 1 season) to replace him… Your logic is infallable.

    ==============

    You know who did crap like that? Daniel Snyder. And he only turned it around once he finally got a coach and a franchise-type QB.

    McKenzie is under contract, so is Allen – but i have a sneaking admiration for Mark going down to the locker room and meeting with DA and McKenzie…there’s still that pride in him.

    ^^^^^^^^
    A team needs REAL head coaches to the lead them.

    DA and his crappy staff are not taking this team anywhere! Write that down!

    Another 4-5 win season next year with the same crappy staff.

  • Al_is_theraiders

    all im saying is look at this as it is a failure…dont let cork and jerrys free sandwiches try to make it more complicated than it is…

  • DKnight007

    474.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    December 21st, 2012 at 9:16 am
    cam newton has 7000 yards passing and 1300 yards rushing over the last two years

    This has never been by a second year player and im not certain it has ever happened in a two year span.

    These loser have let pryor rot on the bench and dont have the offensive mind (knapp) to be creative like wash or sea or sf or carolina.

    These coaching hires were an abysmal failure

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Yep!

  • DKnight007

    The Raiders are last in the league in rushing touchdowns this season, with three.
    To put that in perspective, only three teams since the merger in 1970 had fewer in a season. And Buccaneers rookie running back Doug Martin had four rushing touchdowns against the Raiders in their game Nov. 4.
    Worse, the Raiders had 16 rushing touchdowns last season and 19 in 2010. Hue Jackson called plays during both seasons. Also, five times during Jackson’s two seasons, the Raiders had at least three rushing touchdowns in a game.

    – Second-year quarterback Terrelle Pryor will be used on some third-down and red-zone plays against the Panthers so that the Raiders “can create a different look the defense to contend with” and “try to use some of his athletic ability.”
    Pryor played one series last Sunday against the Chiefs. The series consisted of two hand-offs and an incomplete pass from Pryor to wide receiver Darrius Hewyard-Bey.
    Pryor has spent the better part of his two NFL seasons biding his time, learning from Carson Palmer and Matt Leinart and working on his accuracy, timing, mechanics and footwork.
    Now he’s ready to take his game for a test drive, which means for more than three plays. Until that happens, Pryor said he doesn’t want to hear about any comparisons to Newton, Robert Griffin III and Colin Kaepernick.
    “When it’s time for me, and I really get a lot of reps and get comfortable, I’ll have success,” Pryor said. “I really, truly believe that. Right now I’m just waiting. Right now I don’t want to compare myself to Kaepernick or Cam or any of those guys because them guys and Griffin have proved it. I haven’t proved anything.
    “I can’t really say I’d be like them. I don’t know what I’m going to be like because I haven’t even played yet. I can tell from practice and certain plays that they run and certain plays that I run, I could tell I can do that in practice. It’s not when people are watching, so I can’t really compare myself to them.”
    Raiders offensive coordinator Greg Knapp is watching at practice, and he said he likes what he sees from Pryor these days.
    “I’ve definitely seen the progress during practice on his mechanics, the rhythm of his throws and the consistency of his footwork,” Knapp said. “He has taken to coaching very well. (Quarterbacks coach) John DeFilippo should get a lot of credit because he has spent a lot of time with him, as far as working on the individual part of the game.”
    Pryor said he is satisfied with the improvements he has made since training camp, especially his accuracy and footwork. Getting a taste of what it’s like in a regular-season game gave him added confidence.
    “I wasn’t really nervous because I studied them so much it was like second nature when I got to the line,” Pryor said. “Obviously, there’s a tiny bit of nerves. Obviously, I would have liked to play a little more and had a couple of different plays I’d really want to use, but I got an opportunity to get on the field and that’s a step from where I was. I can’t really complain. I’m just grateful my coaches let me get on the field.”

    – Stat of the day: On passes longer than 20 yards downfield, Palmer is 10 of 50 (20 percent) for 432 yards, with three touchdowns and three interceptions. He went 16 of 45 (35.6 percent) for 618 yards, with six touchdowns and two interceptions last season.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Should have been using Pryor in those situations earlier in the season insetad of deactivating him and have him do nothing.

    More stats below showing how much Hue Jackson OWNS both DA and his crappy Knapp!

    The staff and team is a joke.

    So glad I didn’t waste my time and money with this crap coaching staff trying and failing to lead this team this season. This team didn’t even have a season! Lol!

  • DKnight007

    You can tell that most of these players never bought in to what DA, Knapp, Tarver and Hoffman were selling.

    They knew these coaches were either in over their heads or just bad retread jokes.

  • Raiderbuck

    Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
    December 21st, 2012 at 7:16 am

    Reggie restructured Seymour’s contract this season and

    MADE IT MUCH WORSE FOR THE RAIDERS CAP SITUATION.

    Seymour’s contract is on Reggie.

    He along with McClain should have been cut before this season started.
    **********************************************

    Seymour Contract is void. He didn’t start enough games.

  • Al_is_theraiders

    i really dont blame mcclain or seymour…these guys are incompetent…

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    DKnight007 Says:
    December 21st, 2012 at 9:21 am
    You can tell that most of these players never bought in to what DA, Knapp, Tarver and Hoffman were selling.

    They knew these coaches were either in over their heads or just bad retread jokes.
    ===========

    the first time we heard from tommy kelly this year and he said we stopped the run but the guys in the secondary…. (paraphrasing)

    It told me that the guys didnt buy in and the locker room was fracturing

    the blow out losses romac and so on only confirmed what some of us have known already

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    if pryor makes a big play on sunday or looks good and gives a spark

    knapp and allen should be fired before they get back to the locker room

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    seymore contract is null and void?

    good becuase seymores game is also null and void

  • DennisAllensVisor

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    December 21st, 2012 at 9:29 am
    if pryor makes a big play on sunday or looks good and gives a spark

    knapp and allen should be fired before they get back to the locker room

    —-

    I hope he does.

    But what if he doesnt, what if he looks horrible..

    Then what do you suggest…

  • DutchRaider77

    Doubt Allen gets fired…Eric Davis was calling for Knapp’s head today. Kinda gave Tarver a pass, but would understand if he got fired.

  • DennisAllensVisor

    The locker room is fracturing… LOL

    Most of those guys wont be here next year and they know it. Fracturing…LOL..

  • cwolfman

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    December 21st, 2012 at 9:14 am

    also…how many guys has reggue signed this year only to let them go again…he is in over his head…its not fantasy football.
    ===============================
    I would argue that he has brought in players that have done a good job contributing as well. Also, its not like these guys that he has brought in and let go have been big named, big money guys.. These have been cheap FAs he had hoped would contribute, but didnt pan out. So what. That happens with every NFL team. Which FA that Reg brought in has hurt our team, or set our team back even further?

  • DennisAllensVisor

    There is 0.00% that Allen will get fired. None.

    This isnt the unstable front office Al Davis days.

  • DennisAllensVisor

    cwolfman Says:
    December 21st, 2012 at 9:33 am
    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    December 21st, 2012 at 9:14 am

    also…how many guys has reggue signed this year only to let them go again…he is in over his head…its not fantasy football.
    ===============================
    I would argue that he has brought in players that have done a good job contributing as well. Also, its not like these guys that he has brought in and let go have been big named, big money guys.. These have been cheap FAs he had hoped would contribute, but didnt pan out. So what. That happens with every NFL team. Which FA that Reg brought in has hurt our team, or set our team back even further?

    —-

    Brisiel.

    But he has started to come around lately, along with the rest of the OL.

  • cwolfman

    I hear you DAV.. but even if Brisiel sucked it up the rest of this year, would it really hurt our team or set them back further? It’s not like they bet the farm on him.

  • DKnight007

    489.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    December 21st, 2012 at 9:34 am
    There is 0.00% that Allen will get fired. None.

    This isnt the unstable front office Al Davis days.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Sucks to, because DA and his garbage coaches were the wrong hires in the first place.

    Don’t worry DA Visor.

    Your boy DA wil be gone after next season and you will see how much of a waste of time it was to get rid of Hue prematurely and hire this clown DA and his staff.

  • DennisAllensVisor

    cwolfman Says:
    December 21st, 2012 at 9:37 am
    I hear you DAV.. but even if Brisiel sucked it up the rest of this year, would it really hurt our team or set them back further? It’s not like they bet the farm on him.

    —-

    Pretty lengthy deal..

    Not really a back breaker, but the OL is starting to gel, so it might work out.

  • Al_is_theraiders

    488…but thats all he is going to get. avg players lead to avg teams, on this years case below avg team….

  • DennisAllensVisor

    DKnight007 Says:
    December 21st, 2012 at 9:37 am
    489.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    December 21st, 2012 at 9:34 am
    There is 0.00% that Allen will get fired. None.

    This isnt the unstable front office Al Davis days.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Sucks to, because DA and his garbage coaches were the wrong hires in the first place.

    Don’t worry DA Visor.

    Your boy DA wil be gone after next season and you will see how much of a waste of time it was to get rid of Hue prematurely and hire this clown DA and his staff.

    —-

    He’s not my boy.

    My name is actually a slight at him.

    But im not an irrational knee jerk fan who doesnt understand whats going on and just yells fire everyone at the TV every sunday.

  • DutchRaider77

    489.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    December 21st, 2012 at 9:34 am
    There is 0.00% that Allen will get fired. None.

    This isnt the unstable front office Al Davis days.

    ________________________________________________________

    Unless he doesn’t take his post game shower…

  • Charlie

    Dknight

    Here we go again. Someone that ignores the obvious:
    Callahan, Shell, Kiffin, Jackson, Cable, Turner, Allen and all the different assistants getting largely the same results over ten years.

    Yet you still think our problem is coaching????

    Why do you think we can not attract a “proven winner”?
    They all know this is a 3-5 year project because we lack NFL talent!!!!

  • DKnight007

    483.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    December 21st, 2012 at 9:29 am
    if pryor makes a big play on sunday or looks good and gives a spark

    knapp and allen should be fired before they get back to the locker room

    ^^^^^^^^
    You kidding? DA and Knapp will not run the zone read option and tell Pryor to run the ball and they won’t use him as split out TE haev him do a jump ball in teh end zone, because they don’t know how to use him.

    They will just have him do 3 drop back passes and the line will collapse and Pryor will to have to take off and run.

  • cwolfman

    See… I think the issue that a lot of people have with Reg is that he said our team would compete this year. I for one believed that to be a bunch of BS from the get go, and I think Reg knew that from the get go as well. But, what was he supposed to say? “Our team is not going to compete this year, because it is going to take a least 1-2 seasons to just get the right guys in here. Until then, all of you should just prepare to watch a struggling team.” Now, did he think the Raiders would be better then what you see right now? Im sure he did, but I dont think Reg, and most people in the business for that matter that this team was better then a 6-8 win team this season.

  • DennisAllensVisor

    Rod Streater
    Phillip Wheeler
    Phillip Adams
    Brandian Ross
    Joselio Hanson
    Mike Goodson

    All brought in by Reggie.

    All making pennies.

    All have looked like the best at their respective position.

    #ThinkingIsFundamental