Seymour, Branch not at practice once again
By Steve Corkran
Thursday, December 20th, 2012 at 11:56 am in Oakland Raiders.
Defensive tackle Richard Seymour and strong safety Tyvon Branch aren’t at practice today for the second straight day. All in all, the Raiders still are relatively healthy for a team about to play its 15th regular-season game.
It’s doubtful that Seymour will play Sunday against the Carolina Panthers, given he has missed the past six games and his injured hamstring isn’t healed enough for him to practice.
Branch’s situation is another matter. He played last Sunday despite missing most of practice leading up to the Kansas City Chiefs game.
It’s likely that things will play out the same this Sunday, with Seymour inactive and Branch playing at less than 100 percent.
– As for playing time Sunday, coach Dennis Allen said he doesn’t expect any lineup changes or the playing time to be much different than it was for the Chiefs game.
“No, it’s going to be pretty similar to what we did last week,” Allen said. “Still getting an opportunity to look at a few guys.”
That doesn’t bode well for quarterbacks Matt Leinart and Terrelle Pryor, running back Taiwan Jones and backup tight ends Richard Gordon and David Ausberry, guys that played sparingly against the Chiefs.
Pryor got on the field for four plays. Well, three plays if you don’t count the false-start penalty to begin his one drive. Pryor handed off twice and then missed wide on a pass for wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey on third down.
– The Raiders get one final shot at winning a game played in the Eastern Standard Time zone this Sunday, when they travel to Charlotte, N.C.
So far, they are 0-4 this season in such games, with losses at Miami, Atlanta, Baltimore and Cincinnati. In 2011, they went 0-2, with losses in Buffalo and Miami. In 2010, they lost both times on the east coast, against Pittsburgh and Miami.
The streak stands at nine straight losses, dating to Dec. 6, 2009, when the Raiders beat the Steelers in Pittsburgh behind a stellar game from quarterback Bruce Gradkowski and wide receiver Louis Murphy.
Since Dec. 15, 2002, the Raiders are 5-26 in games played back east.
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December 20th, 2012 at 11:57 am
Wheres the green beanie for D!ck Seymour?
December 20th, 2012 at 11:58 am
2 tits Allen
December 20th, 2012 at 11:58 am
Anybody else think we should all chip in a get DA a training bra for Xmas?
And a girdle for Reggie.
And a bustle for Knapp.
December 20th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Schick cuatro
December 20th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
I got 5 on it!
December 20th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Free TP6!
December 20th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
We sure are getting our monies worth with Seymour this season. I am sure RM will be glad to the back of him.
December 20th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
HC – Shaw
OC – Norv
DC – Romeo
Draft Te’o!
Sign Bowe!
December 20th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
So, how’s work today, Kell?
December 20th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Shame on Mark Davis.
FIRE REGGIE NOW.
December 20th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
bring back murph!
December 20th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
bring back murph!
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Already did with Junior Criner. Big guy who can’t seperate from db’s and drops passes.
December 20th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Alex7 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
So, how’s work today, Kell?
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Slow, Im at the office now. X-mas holidays…..slow.
Hows work with you today, gossipy btch?
December 20th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Shame on Mark Davis.
FIRE REGGIE NOW.
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Who replaces him?
December 20th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Alex7 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
So, how’s work today, Kell?
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Slow, Im at the office now. X-mas holidays…..slow.
Hows work with you today, gossipy btch?
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Wow, i’ve never seen such a simple “Hello” go hostile so quickly
December 20th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
bring back murph!
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bring back the white Webster !!
December 20th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Coach has spoken.
They know what TP can do, and apparently they aren’t impressed.
Thank God that’s over, and no more talk of getting TP snaps.
December 20th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
898.dr_robert Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 11:01 am
The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:55 am
Dr_robert Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:30 am
would u take junior seau in the first round? mike singletary? cuz teo is basically a mix of those two.
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Go look at what Singletary had surrounding him and Seau was one of the most overrated players I’ve ever seen…I just saw 2 more mock drafts that had him out of the top 15.
And why is he a mixture of those 2? Cuz he plays against the Big 10 schedule? That’s a gawd awful conference.
And furthermore, this is top 5 we are talking about, not the 1st round.
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notre dame isn’t it in the big ten. best player on the best team in the country. best player on the best defense in the country. he leads them in tackles AND has 7 int’s. very smart, very tuff, and a great leader.
and u wouldn’t like a hall-of-fame MLB in the top 5?
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Crazy how people don’t see Te’o as a special talent.
Bunch of weirdos.
Get ready for the fake mock drafts and false rumors that will try and say Te’o is “too slow” to try and drop his stock so he falls to a good team in the late middle to late 1st round and he dominates! haha
December 20th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Alex7 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Coach has spoken.
They know what TP can do, and apparently they aren’t impressed.
Thank God that’s over, and no more talk of getting TP snaps.
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I guess the coaches know what they have in Marcel Reese also, because we haven’t seen much of him lately either.
December 20th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
DMAC, didnt Shaw just sign a contract extension ??
December 20th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Wow, i’ve never seen such a simple “Hello” go hostile so quickly
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Judge, that was a shot at me. He thinks I live off my “white wife” and do nothing. Stay out of it. It’s personal. thanks.
December 20th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
908.DMAC Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 11:08 am
Bring on our new QB on the D!
Te’o!!!
Te’o!!!
Te’o!!!
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Ah hell yeah!
This team needs LB’s….for once!
December 20th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
949.The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 11:35 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/08/manti-teo-will-be-a-first-round-pick-but-some-question-his-speed/
Manti Te’o will be a first-round pick, but some question his speed
Posted by Michael David Smith on December 8, 2012, 12:53 PM EST
Notre Dame middle linebacker Manti Te’o has had a brilliant senior season and is a finalist for the Heisman Trophy, and he’s widely viewed as a first-round pick in April’s NFL draft. But he’s not necessarily viewed as a sure thing in the NFL.
Albert Breer of NFL Network talked to several personnel people about Te’o, and although scouts like him, they don’t necessarily love him because some question whether he has the speed to be as impressive a player in pass coverage in the NFL as he has been this year at Notre Dame, when he had seven interceptions.
“Speed will be a factor with Manti, because you’re gonna be in a position to cover backs and tight ends at that spot, and not just on third down,” one AFC executive told Breer. “Teams throw on first and second down, so you have to be able to run and cover. You don’t want liabilities in coverage in your base. I don’t think he’s a liability. Does he run well enough? He’s not speed-deficient, but with his play speed, in covereage, there are some specific guys you’d have questions about. Guys like Jimmy Graham, Darren Sproles, or the [Chris] Cooley or [Dallas] Clark types, those guys get separation. You might be worried about him there.”
Knocking a linebacker because he’s not as quick as Darren Sproles strikes me as similar to knocking a cornerback because he’s not as big as Calvin Johnson, but the larger point is fair: NFL teams may be able to create some matchup advantages on pass plays by throwing over the middle and making the 6-foot-2, 255-pound Te’o drop into coverage.
Te’o has had a lot of eyes on him while playing for the No. 1 team in the country this year. He’ll also have a lot of eyes on him at the Scouting Combine, when it’s his turn to run the 40.
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I find this BS. Who are these scouts?
My guess is that they are scouts from the good teams in the league who will be picking outide of the top 18, trying to throw up smoke screens about Te’o’s alleged lack of speed before the combine or workouts??
They just trying to drop his draft stock so he falls to the good teams in the 1st round.
Te’o will run a 4.70 at 6′2, 250 pounds and run a solid shuttle. He will be just fine, for you HWS measurable types.
It’s all about getting legit FOOTBALL players on this Raider team….for once!
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I still get a kick on how these alleged “scouts” are asking how Te’o can cover the Grahams, Sproles or the NFL?
OLB’s will be asked to try and do that MOST OF THE TIME…..not MIKES/ILB’S.
Give me a break.
December 20th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Alex7 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
So, how’s work today, Kell?
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Slow, Im at the office now. X-mas holidays…..slow.
Hows work with you today, gossipy btch?
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Wow, i’ve never seen such a simple “Hello” go hostile so quickly
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Kell knows that I meant hows work today, for his wife.
Kell? You’re so full of shi te.
I just called Kane and Assoc and asked for you, and they told me “No, sorry he’s not in today. Would you like to leave a message?”
You just dragged your droopy ass out of bed.
But kudos to Jacqui for bringing home the bacon.
BTW, EVERYONE knows you live off your wife.
You get paid by commission. You haven’t sold but one piece of prop in years. According to Kane you’ve made a grand total of $3400 in the last 3 years combined.
Hey, next year will be your year, right?
December 20th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
OLB’s will be asked to try and do that MOST OF THE TIME…..not MIKES/ILB’S.
Give me a break.
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Oh really? Ive seen McClain in lots of coverage.
December 20th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
Alex7 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
Kell knows that I meant hows work today, for his wife.
Kell? You’re so full of shi te.
I just called Kane and Assoc and asked for you, and they told me “No, sorry he’s not in today. Would you like to leave a message?”
You just dragged your droopy ass out of bed.
But kudos to Jacqui for bringing home the bacon.
BTW, EVERYONE knows you live off your wife.
You get paid by commission. You haven’t sold but one piece of prop in years. According to Kane you’ve made a grand total of $3400 in the last 3 years combined.
Hey, next year will be your year, right?
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You have your troll narrative about my life, My wife and I have the real story.
December 20th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
R8ER MIKE Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
DMAC, didnt Shaw just sign a contract extension ??
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Didn’t know that ODB
Thats 2 bad
I guess I need to cross him off my Xmas gifts
December 20th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
25.KoolKell Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
OLB’s will be asked to try and do that MOST OF THE TIME…..not MIKES/ILB’S.
Give me a break.
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Oh really? Ive seen McClain in lots of coverage.
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Isn’t that zone coverage and not man coverage?
December 20th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
if you wanted teo to cover a back…flare out the fb from the backfield wide, have the rb up the middle to a second level and out…mlb has to cover him…
December 20th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Did you guys watch a Football life based on the Immaculate Deception??? Those Stealers got the refs to rob us due to lack of security, even had a former CIA agent try to convince the viewers that it was the right call. yet Frenchy Ruqua and Franco never deny the ball hit the floor or Ruqua touched it…
December 20th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Hey, let’s not disparage a fresh post with this abrasive nonsense. Let’s get back to football.
So, who else thinks we should draft Teo and move the team to Salt Lake City?
December 20th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Anyone near 879 Island dr, in alameda?
Lady said Mike Kelly wasn’t there.
Maybe he’s in the back, hard at work. Yeah, that’s it.
Maybe someone in the area can stop in and tell Kell Merry christmas?
December 20th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
25.KoolKell Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
OLB’s will be asked to try and do that MOST OF THE TIME…..not MIKES/ILB’S.
Give me a break.
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Oh really? Ive seen McClain in lots of coverage.
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Isn’t that zone coverage and not man coverage?
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Both.
December 20th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
I’m extremely pleased that Bradshaw refuses to attend the Steeler ceremony for the anniversary of the Immaculate Reception. That franchise needs to be imploded like it was in the Dark Knight Rises.
December 20th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
My gift basket is in the mail…
December 20th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
OLB’s will be asked to try and do that MOST OF THE TIME…..not MIKES/ILB’S.
Give me a break.
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Oh really? Ive seen McClain in lots of coverage.
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That was the lst mistake Raider coaches made with McClain. Half way through last season I was asking on this blog why McClain is in the sub packages. He was never good in the sub packages and that was the lst thing this new staff did to get him off the field, and fortunately not the last thing they did to get him off the field.
December 20th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
Looks like Murphy’s starting this Sunday despite a nagging hamstring issue.
Let the pain begin!
December 20th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
Alex7 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
Kell knows that I meant hows work today, for his wife.
Kell? You’re so full of shi te.
I just called Kane and Assoc and asked for you, and they told me “No, sorry he’s not in today. Would you like to leave a message?”
You just dragged your droopy ass out of bed.
But kudos to Jacqui for bringing home the bacon.
BTW, EVERYONE knows you live off your wife.
You get paid by commission. You haven’t sold but one piece of prop in years. According to Kane you’ve made a grand total of $3400 in the last 3 years combined.
Hey, next year will be your year, right?
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You have your troll narrative about my life, My wife and I have the real story.
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No, what I have is what you put out there.
You stated how successful you were in real estate.
You stupidly posted a link to Kane.
And you stupidly forgot anyone can see who has listings or not.
In three years, you have had two listings, total.
You lost the listing to another agent two years ago, and the current listing has been sitting there for months, and still won’t net you more than $1,500 IF you ever sell it. (we both know someone else will)
Don’t be hatin, Kell. You created this mess, lol.
December 20th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
TWO Acceptable outcomes this Sunday…
1. Pryor and other young/unknown non-starters get extensive playing time. Result? We find out what we have (and don’t have) BEFORE GOING INTO THE OFFSEASON. Score/game outcome–> fully irrelevant.
Perhaps that is too logical and I’m expecting too much from the CLOWNE COACHE CADRE (CCC).
2. If this simple ‘plan’ is just too much for the CCC then my second wish is that this ’staff’ oversees a MELTDOWN OF EPIC PROPORTIONS (MEP) on the order of 42-6 in favor of Carolina, followed by a BLOWOUT THAT BELIES COMPREHENSION (BBC) in San Diego to the tune of 50-3.
D0A and Friends(tm) have already proven to be a WHOLLY INEPT TRAINWRECK (WIT) and if they cant see that ‘1′ is the only logical option, then I would like to witness a complete and fully-cataclysmic implosion that makes it impossible for Davis to even contemplate retaining the CCC in 2013.
December 20th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
Alex7 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Anyone near 879 Island dr, in alameda?
Lady said Mike Kelly wasn’t there.
Maybe he’s in the back, hard at work. Yeah, that’s it.
Maybe someone in the area can stop in and tell Kell Merry christmas?
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What lady? I’m right here.
December 20th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
What can we get for McFragile?
December 20th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
Just called Kane again, Kell. You know, in case you were sitting in the can for the last hour.
No luck. Annoyingly told me you are not there, and has no idea when to expect you.
The little laugh indicated it was a silly question.
December 20th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
Josh Dubow@JoshDubowAP
6 players have rushed for at least 3 TDs in game this season including Doug Martin’s 4 vs #Raiders
Retweeted by Steve Corkran
Jerry McDonald@Jerrymcd
Carolina QB Cam Newton has 21 rushing touchdowns in 2011-12. The Raiders have 19 rushing TDs during the same span _ 16 of them last season.
Josh Dubow@JoshDubowAP
#Raiders had at least 3 rushing TDs in a game 5 times under Hue Jackson last 2 years.
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how about those stats. horrrible. I know this coaching staff was feeling good about that fools gold game last week
December 20th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
Josh Dubow@JoshDubowAP
#Raiders have 3 TDs rushing this season, just 1 more than the NFL-low since the merger
Retweeted by Vic Tafur
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Check out another cool Record DA/ KNAPP have
December 20th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
804.DMAC Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 10:24 am
Where’s D!ck Seymour’s green beenie at????
He deserves one 2.
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Hanging from the lowest branch on his Tree.
December 20th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
I think we could trade DMAC to another team for a porcelain doll wearing a football jersey.
That’s his value right now.
December 20th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
Anyone wanna stop by my office and say hi?
1060 West Addison chitown
December 20th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
No, what I have is what you put out there.
You stated how successful you were in real estate.
You stupidly posted a link to Kane.
And you stupidly forgot anyone can see who has listings or not.
In three years, you have had two listings, total.
You lost the listing to another agent two years ago, and the current listing has been sitting there for months, and still won’t net you more than $1,500 IF you ever sell it. (we both know someone else will)
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Its sold, and the million dollar one I sold last month.
Sales arent on the website only listings.
But you can hate me all you want. Obviously I own your heart. Good, I’ll keep schitting on you.
December 20th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
How about Reggie McKenzie go and look at Te’o’s game tape, football intangibles, work ethic and character instead of basing their drafting on straight line 40 time?
What a concept huh?
Straight line 40 times are overrated!
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That’s fantastic, but he has to sit there on and see how it will project into the NFL. We’re not playing a weak schedule like ND gets every year.
Intangibles, work ethic, & character huh? Yup those traits are serving Tim Tebow quite well aren’t they?…Hell I thought McClain had all those things.
December 20th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
ineptitude…the new reggie raiders.
December 20th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
well it looks as if we will have to wait until next pre season to get a real look at pryor. Only it will not be Real game action.
This is a travesty and should add to the case against allens return.
There is no appreciable reason to play palmer in this game or the next. Nothing is on the line other than a chance to improve form 4 to 5 games in the win column.
In my estimation that is not enough reward to fail prudent business and time tested draft strategy of playing young qbs during a non competitive season.
thank goodness Cam newton is playing in this game. otherwise there would be no qbs on the field that would interest me in the slightest or cause me to watch.
Allen, if you get blown out and palmer plays like crap, will it have been worth your selfishness?
PLease satan’s claws….I mean santa cluase, I want allen fired for xmas
December 20th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
Alex7 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
Just called Kane again, Kell. You know, in case you were sitting in the can for the last hour.
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You’re a lying btch, cause I’m sitting on floor right now answereing phones.
December 20th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
Fùck these coaches.. getting a 5th win is gonna help us about as much as our 8 wins from last yr have helped us this season..
December 20th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
Anyone wanna stop by my office and say hi?
1060 West Addison chitown
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You hear that knock on the door?
Its Jon Condo w/ Xmas basket
December 20th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
Alex7 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Anyone near 879 Island dr, in alameda?
Lady said Mike Kelly wasn’t there.
Maybe he’s in the back, hard at work. Yeah, that’s it.
Maybe someone in the area can stop in and tell Kell Merry christmas?
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What lady? I’m right here.
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lol lol.. come on now Alex.You are going to send Kell into full meltdown mode. He is so important at Kane
the front desk receptionist doesn’t even know he there !! But then again you and I have sold as many houses
as he has this year.
December 20th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
tuckrulefool Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
TWO Acceptable outcomes this Sunday…
1. Pryor and other young/unknown non-starters get extensive playing time. Result? We find out what we have (and don’t have) BEFORE GOING INTO THE OFFSEASON. Score/game outcome–> fully irrelevant.
Perhaps that is too logical and I’m expecting too much from the CLOWNE COACHE CADRE (CCC).
2. If this simple ‘plan’ is just too much for the CCC then my second wish is that this ’staff’ oversees a MELTDOWN OF EPIC PROPORTIONS (MEP) on the order of 42-6 in favor of Carolina, followed by a BLOWOUT THAT BELIES COMPREHENSION (BBC) in San Diego to the tune of 50-3.
D0A and Friends(tm) have already proven to be a WHOLLY INEPT TRAINWRECK (WIT) and if they cant see that ‘1′ is the only logical option, then I would like to witness a complete and fully-cataclysmic implosion that makes it impossible for Davis to even contemplate retaining the CCC in 2013.
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Losing is NOT acceptable. Winning becomes a habit and so does losing. Everybody with this “clever losing find out what we got s**t” stop now. Winning is all that matters. I hope we run the ball down the Panthers throat all down long. DMAC and Reece run for 200 yards combined
Go Raiders!
December 20th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
We should have brought in Tolbert this past season; always liked the guy in SD and love that he took LESS money to leave the Chargers.
December 20th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Dr_robert Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 11:43 am
>>hey played 3 games against the big ten, and 2 of those teams were ranked.>>
That Michigan St team is 3-5 in conference play & finished 6-6. But like most typical Big 10 teams, they get over ranked.
Impressive win against Michigan. Needed 5 INT’s to win by a TD against a Denard robinson squad. How did Alabama fare against them?
>>nix isn’t even the best player on their line. tuitt is.>>
So that’s another 1st round pick covering for Teo huh?
>>u said u wouldn’t want seau or singletary in the first round.>>
No I didn’t. I said I don’t want Teo in the top 5. And I said Seau was overrated as hell & Singletary was surrounded by studs.
>>he’s ranked #2 on kiper’s board and #7 on mcshay’s.>>
Oh well that settles it. Kiper had Mike Williams out of USC as his #1 overall in 2005. Now what was the knock against Williams? Oh right, that crazy speed thing. Should I list other Kiper failures as well?
Didn’t McShay tell us how great Andre Woodson & Jevon Snead were gonna be?
December 20th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Wow, i’ve never seen such a simple “Hello” go hostile so quickly
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Judge, that was a shot at me. He thinks I live off my “white wife” and do nothing. Stay out of it. It’s personal. thanks.
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I think you should clear this up, once and for all, Michael.
Everyone here says you live off your white wife.
You blog every single day, all day, all night.
You have had no sales of any kind in the last year. IF YOU DID HAVE A SALE, IT WOULD BE LISTED.
So how can you say your wife doesn’t support you, if Kane site shows you have done nothing?
YOU WON’T ANSWER THIS BECAUSE YOU CAN’T. BECAUSE YOU ARE A LYINGASSDOG.
I’m ashamed for you.
December 20th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
IF YOU DID HAVE A SALE, IT WOULD BE LISTED.
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It would not dumbass.
Your jealousy of me is eating you up.
December 20th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
What is your California RE License…
December 20th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
R8ER MIKE Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
Alex7 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Anyone near 879 Island dr, in alameda?
Lady said Mike Kelly wasn’t there.
Maybe he’s in the back, hard at work. Yeah, that’s it.
Maybe someone in the area can stop in and tell Kell Merry christmas?
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What lady? I’m right here.
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lol lol.. come on now Alex.You are going to send Kell into full meltdown mode. He is so important at Kane
the front desk receptionist doesn’t even know he there !! But then again you and I have sold as many houses
as he has this year.
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All realtors are required to man the desk, on a rotating basis, even those who have zero sales, with the idea that maybe, just maybe a walkin results in a listing.
That’s Kell’s current, and only listing. Came from a walkin.
We sure as hell know he didn’t leave a chair long enough to canvass, lol. That’s for sure.
Tell us again, Michael, how proud Jacqui’s family is, of a son in law who sits on his ass all day, while his wife works?
You lie to them too, don’t you?
Obviously.
December 20th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
Alex, what’s a listing? What’s a Sale? in the Brokerage business.
December 20th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
Josh Dubow@JoshDubowAP
6 players have rushed for at least 3 TDs in game this season including Doug Martin’s 4 vs #Raiders
Retweeted by Steve Corkran
Jerry McDonald@Jerrymcd
Carolina QB Cam Newton has 21 rushing touchdowns in 2011-12. The Raiders have 19 rushing TDs during the same span _ 16 of them last season.
Josh Dubow@JoshDubowAP
#Raiders had at least 3 rushing TDs in a game 5 times under Hue Jackson last 2 years.
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how about those stats. horrrible. I know this coaching staff was feeling good about that fools gold game last week
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Yes, but some want to keep them around.
December 20th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
Later peoples!
Go A’s!
Go Dubs!
Go Cal Bears!
Go Raiders!
Draft Te’o!!
December 20th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
An interesting meditation on the value of teamwork:
http://www.avclub.com/articles/study-confirms-that-going-solo-is-an-actual-kiss-o,90130/
December 20th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
DMAC Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 11:01 am
CP3 is cool w/ me, but not for 12mil or whatever he’s going to be making next season.
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dr_robert Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 11:04 am
that’s not really that much for a golden haired hero===========================================
Deserves that and our worship!
December 20th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
By the way, Golden Haired Hero is capitalized.
December 20th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Winnings a habbit for talented teams with good coaching.. we are wasting our draft pos for some fools gold.. its just plain stupid.. talent comes from the draft.. talent wins the games..
December 20th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
Tell us again, Michael, how proud Jacqui’s family is, of a son in law who sits on his ass all day, while his wife works?
You lie to them too, don’t you?
Obviously.
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I don’t talk to them much as they speak Swiss/German, but my wife does. You should see the beautiful Swiss watch father in law gave me.
Hey we’ve been married 28yrs, she’s happy, he’s happy.
December 20th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
LONDON…
You dont get it.
The ONLY way we dump these A55hats is if Mark gets seriously dejected adn we see BIG TIME regression. (Admitedly hard to do from the point we are at now.)
I HATE rooting for a loss here (and cant actually watch and root for a loss) but its soo bad we cannot afford another LOST season in 2013.
Its that simple.
Give me one GOOD reason we should keep T1T5 and Friends(tm)? (Spare me the dealt a bad hand excuse. thats tired and BS since D0A and MCK had a large part in CREATING this hand.)
Seriously, ONE GOOD REASON.
Yeah thats a tall order I know…
And if there is a 2.76% chance of getting Gruden, I take that ALL DAY LONG over a 100% chance we continue to be the NFL’s PRIMARY DUMPSTER FIRE in 2013.
With KRAPP and T1T5 at the helm in ‘13 that’s a guarantee.
Sorry, I cant mentally go there after 10+ years of putrid.
December 20th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
IF YOU DID HAVE A SALE, IT WOULD BE LISTED.
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It would not dumbass.
Your jealousy of me is eating you up.
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LOL. OF COURSE IT WOULD BE LISTED. EVERY BROKER WANTS EVERYONE TO SEE ACTIVITY, SALES, LISTINGS, SO PROSPECTIVE CLIENTS FEEL THEY ARE WELL REPRESENTED, YOU MORON.
And why is it when you are being made fun of, you run that “your jealousy of me” reply?
You come across even more ignorant that thought possible.
You live in a tiny house. My apartment is bigger than your dingy hut.
You don’t work.
You sit all day on a raider blog.
ALL DAY. EVERY DAY. EVERY NIGHT.
Your “vacation” this year was going to see wife’s family, lol.
You have no hobbies. (obviously)
You sure as hell have no friends. (you actually have to leave a computer screen to interact with people)
And you spend NO TIME WITH YOUR WIFE. Every single night you are on this blog. Every night. Through out the night.
And no one is jealous of your wife. We have seen her pic, and it was pretty scary.
You’re the biggest loser I know.
December 20th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
Alex, what’s a listing? What’s a Sale? in the Brokerage business.
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YOU AREN’T A BROKER. YOU ARE AN ENTRY LEVEL REALTOR.
And brokers sure as hell don’t pull secretary duty, lol.
December 20th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
LOL. OF COURSE IT WOULD BE LISTED. EVERY BROKER WANTS EVERYONE TO SEE ACTIVITY, SALES, LISTINGS, SO PROSPECTIVE CLIENTS FEEL THEY ARE WELL REPRESENTED, YOU MORON.
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Sales aren’t listed on Brokerage websites only company listings. You don’t know what youre talking about. But you’re very passionate about it. Lol, Smh.
December 20th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Anyone follow Notre Dame football? How are the George Atkinson Twins doing?
December 20th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
I’m leaving right now. I’m going to visit Mikey, see if he’s at ‘work’, lol.
December 20th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
Josh Dubow@JoshDubowAP
#Raiders averaging NFL-worst 1.47 ypc in red zone and are 31st with TDs on 40.5% of red zone trips
Retweeted by Steve Corkran
December 20th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Rich, I know that’s you.
December 20th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
Alex7 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
Alex, what’s a listing? What’s a Sale? in the Brokerage business.
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YOU AREN’T A BROKER. YOU ARE AN ENTRY LEVEL REALTOR.
And brokers sure as hell don’t pull secretary duty, lol.
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I’ve had my license since 1991. Floor Duty is not secretary duty. Only licensed Real Estate Agents can answer public question about a property. that’s why we all have to do floor duty.
You don’t know what you’re talking about, but you’re very passionate about it.
December 20th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
49.The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
How about Reggie McKenzie go and look at Te’o’s game tape, football intangibles, work ethic and character instead of basing their drafting on straight line 40 time?
What a concept huh?
Straight line 40 times are overrated!
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That’s fantastic, but he has to sit there on and see how it will project into the NFL. We’re not playing a weak schedule like ND gets every year.
Intangibles, work ethic, & character huh? Yup those traits are serving Tim Tebow quite well aren’t they?…Hell I thought McClain had all those things.
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Why are you comparing Te’o to McLain though? When it is obvious Te’o is quicker, can cover, is a hard worker, has heart and can has proven he can play as a MIKE in a 4-3 as an ILB in a 3-4?
Questions on McClain were whether he was quick enough and whether he can cover and whether he can be a MIKE in a 4-3.
Te’o has shown on tape he can cover, play both as a MIKE and ILB and is quick and is a helluva tackler and leader. Complete opposite of McClame character wise as well?
What’s your issue? Worry he can’t run a straight line 40 in 4.6? Give me a break with that.
December 20th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
Alex7 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
I’m leaving right now. I’m going to visit Mikey, see if he’s at ‘work’, lol.
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Another lie, because you know I’d kick the schit out of you.
December 20th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
So is the pool boy…
December 20th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
LOL. OF COURSE IT WOULD BE LISTED. EVERY BROKER WANTS EVERYONE TO SEE ACTIVITY, SALES, LISTINGS, SO PROSPECTIVE CLIENTS FEEL THEY ARE WELL REPRESENTED, YOU MORON.
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Sales aren’t listed on Brokerage websites only company listings. You don’t know what youre talking about. But you’re very passionate about it. Lol, Smh.
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You are so full of chit.
Your listings are through Kane. Kane gets his broker cut. Your sales go through Kane.
IF YOU HAD ANY SALES, OR LISTINGS BESIDES THAT YOU WOULD GLADLY RUB IT IN OUR FACES.
Much of a successful realtors time is spent showing houses. Bringing out perspective clients to open houses. Maning open houses.
You never leave your couch.
You’re a loser, Kelly.
thanks for providing the link couple years ago, that has proved to be your downfall
I’ll be by in about 2 hours.
December 20th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
77.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
Josh Dubow@JoshDubowAP
#Raiders averaging NFL-worst 1.47 ypc in red zone and are 31st with TDs on 40.5% of red zone trips
Retweeted by Steve Corkran
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Wonderful…that is some great progress from how solid the offense was the previous two years huh?
December 20th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
Alex7 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
I’m leaving right now. I’m going to visit Mikey, see if he’s at ‘work’, lol.
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Another lie, because you know I’d kick the schit out of you.
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We’ll see.
Hey, you said you live close by Raider HQ. Mapquest shows Kane is also by Raider HQ.
So, tell you what. You provide your house address, and if I happen to miss you at Kane, I’ll stop by? show me around the mansion?
December 20th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
@Alex7
Why?
Nobody cares if KK is a trouphy husband or not.
Your football takes are actually fun to read, PLEASE stop picking on KK. It is the Holidays…
December 20th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
@Alex7
Why?
Nobody cares if KK is a trouphy husband or not.
Your football takes are actually fun to read, PLEASE stop picking on KK. It is the Holidays…
Agreed…Merry Christmas!
December 20th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Alex7 what trailer park do you live in, then I’ll give you my adress?
December 20th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
@hwnrdr Says:
I forget to tell you I was amazed by your tailgating, it was awesome and the most impressive aspect was how your ladies had everything under control.
You are truely blessed!
Merry XMAS!
December 20th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
I watched one of those Hoarding buried alive episodes and it was on a condo in Alameda, seemingly by the water thingy they have out there.
A KK neighbor potentially.
December 20th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
I watched one of those Hoarding buried alive episodes and it was on a condo in Alameda, seemingly by the water thingy they have out there.
A KK neighbor potentially.
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I heard about it from a Realtor in town.
December 20th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
There was also one on some old dude in Richmond, who had so much trash he little slept in the entry way to the front door.
I felt bad for him though. He was old, wife died, depressed about his kids, etc.
The Alameda lady was just a pinhead.
December 20th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
There was this crazy cat lady in Fullerton who had a houseful of cats and when the neighbors finally got the police to show up she put all the cats in a shopping cart and starting pushing them down the street at a trot.
Now THAT is crazy!
December 20th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Since 2003, the Raiders are 23-66 in games beginning on November 1 thru the rest of the regular season. I guess it will be 24-67 after the end of this season.
December 20th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
If anyone’s ever running a straight line 40 yrd dash in a game…either something good has happened or something bad,…for us lately its been good for the other team…
DRAFT TEO!!!!!!!!!!!
December 20th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Has anyone seen The Hobbit, by the way?
December 20th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
92.Just Fire Baby Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
There was also one on some old dude in Richmond, who had so much trash he little slept in the entry way to the front door.
I felt bad for him though. He was old, wife died, depressed about his kids, etc.
The Alameda lady was just a pinhead.
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Kinda funny, I went to Lake Forest and Mr. T lived in Lake Forest. Mr. T and the City of Lake Forest were always battling over somthing. He cut down a bunch of trees and they were pissed. But the funniest was when he refused to pay the garbage bill (some kind of dispute), the front gate to his house was a giant mountain of garbage. Really pissed off Whitey.
Also his daughter went to our school. Hated to be referred to as Ericka T.
December 20th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
I am completely in favor of drafting Te’O and I highly doubt that article about people worrying about his speed.
However, I don’t think he will be on the board when we draft.
He could go #1 overall to Jax. They need a face of the franchise, and while he is not a Golden Haired Hero, he will sell jerseys to soccer moms and 6 year old kids.
December 20th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Statistics really do a solid job of illustrating precisely how poor we’ve played recently on the East Coast, MNF, late season games, etc.
December 20th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
papertiger418 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Has anyone seen The Hobbit, by the way?
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I’m a fan boy but it was awesome!
December 20th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Mr. T’s rap video is EASILY one of the most intentionally funny things ever created.
If you haven’t seen it, youtube it.
December 20th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
007 I know teo is ya boy and all but he really is not that great ND played a sub par schedule with the best team they played probably being Stanford, and I dont remember him having a great game that day I will look it up. He has a big game vs Bama and everyone will be watching we will see how he does then vs a top team imo he will be exposed and his draft stock will drop.
December 20th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
meant “unintentionally” funny….
December 20th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
96.papertiger418 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Has anyone seen The Hobbit, by the way?
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Yes,….its awesome!…Chk it out!
December 20th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
I liked it for what it was (kind of like one of my not-favorite Harry Potter movies), and Gollum was fantastic (never turn your back on a junkie), but I always get pissed when the Eagles show up to bail everyone out. The OCD nerd in me always thinks: Why couldn’t they just use the eagles in the first place?
December 20th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
I am completely in favor of drafting Te’O and I highly doubt that article about people worrying about his speed.
However, I don’t think he will be on the board when we draft.
He could go #1 overall to Jax. They need a face of the franchise, and while he is not a Golden Haired Hero, he will sell jerseys to soccer moms and 6 year old kids.
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#1 overall!!! You guys are truly drinking the koolaid.
December 20th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
Manti will be on the board when we draft and after.
December 20th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
If it wasn’t Jax I wouldn’t say it as much.
But they need to sell tix, and create an identity.
Realistically, they could draft Te’O , trade for Tebow and probably sell more season tickets then they ever had.
Khan strikes me as a guy more interested in marketing a LB, then drafting a LT.
December 20th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
lmao…#1
December 20th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
For all the complaints about AD draft picks, you guys sure are worried about speed.
We just need a MLB to gobble up RB’s like Matt Millen used to do.
December 20th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Either way Raiders should be in a spot to draft Jarvis Jones, Damontre moore if he comes out. Todd mcshay has him number 2 on his big board, Start Loutelieli, or Manti Te’o, but they cant win anymore.
Forget Luke Jockel.. we need impact D players. Veldhere is more then enough right now.
I dont want any LT that is the next gallery or not even better then Jared Valdehere
December 20th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
@hwnrdr Says:
I forget to tell you I was amazed by your tailgating, it was awesome and the most impressive aspect was how your ladies had everything under control.
You are truely blessed!
Merry XMAS!
Thanks Dutch! I really do appreciate it!
December 20th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
92.Just Fire Baby Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
There was also one on some old dude in Richmond, who had so much trash he little slept in the entry way to the front door.
I felt bad for him though. He was old, wife died, depressed about his kids, etc.
The Alameda lady was just a pinhead.
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Kinda funny, I went to Lake Forest and Mr. T lived in Lake Forest. Mr. T and the City of Lake Forest were always battling over somthing. He cut down a bunch of trees and they were pissed. But the funniest was when he refused to pay the garbage bill (some kind of dispute), the front gate to his house was a giant mountain of garbage. Really pissed off Whitey.
Also his daughter went to our school. Hated to be referred to as Ericka T
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My Uncle Dennis lives in Lake Forest. He has a seat on the commodities exchange.
December 20th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
Kiper Jr said a few weeks ago, not sure if he has changed his tune since, that he talked to 2-3 executives who they would take #1 overall and they all said Te’O.
You never know with those type of unnamed things, but he is going top 5 without any doubt.
December 20th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
Yep Mel Kiper jr said TEO could go to fist two spots def by 3rd pick.
December 20th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Pass on Jarvis Jones, I watched 3 Georgia games and I don’t think he was one of the 3 best defensive players on his own team.
He can rush the passer…….and little else.
Moore is being hyped as the best 3-4 OLB in the draft, so a draft of him would probably assure that switch for us.
December 20th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Moore can play both but he was a 4-3 guy
December 20th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
I mean we need a speed rusher, but Jones was getting picked on BY TE’S in that ‘Bama game.
Need more of a well-rounded player with a top 5-ish pick then that.
He could be a 3rd down pass-rusher ONLY after a few years in the league.
December 20th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
NEW 2014 mock draft via walter football
1 Oakland Raiders: Jadeveon Clowney, DE, South Carolina
2013 NFL Mock Draft Pick (as of 12/13): Star Lotulelei, NT
Sorry for the spoiler alert, but the first three picks in this 2014 NFL Mock Draft will actually be the same as those in Charlie’s 2014 NFL Mock Draft. We compile these independently, so it was quite the coincidence that we came up with the first three picks – though you could say they should be obvious at this point.
The Raiders are terrible for many reasons, one of which is their inability to put pressure on the quarterback. As of this writing, only the Jaguars have fewer sacks this season. And right nearby, Aldon Smith has more sacks than Oakland’s entire roster. That’s embarrassing.
Quarterbacks usually go No. 1 overall, but Jadeveon Clowney is a once-in-a-generation pass-rusher. He’s the favorite to be chosen first overall.
2 Jacksonville Jaguars: Johnny Manziel, QB, Texas A&M
2013 NFL Mock Draft Pick (as of 12/13): Jarvis Jones, DE/OLB
Anyone who thinks Johnny Manziel is too small to be chosen in the top five is completely mistaken. Manziel currently stands at 6-foot-1, 200. That’s taller than Drew Brees and Russell Wilson. Robert Griffin (6-2, 220) is pretty much the same size as Manziel will be following next season. Manziel also boasts a very good arm and great accuracy. There’s no reason why he can’t be a top-five selection if he continues to play as he did in his Heisman campaign.
You know a team’s quarterback situation is dire when Chad Henne represents some hope. Jacksonville isn’t going anywhere until it addresses this position.
3 New York Jets: Teddy Bridgewater, QB, Louisville
2013 NFL Mock Draft Pick (as of 12/13): Barkevious Mingo, DE/OLB
The Jets have to keep Mark Sanchez on the roster next season because cutting him would result in a $17.1 million cap hit. Giving Sanchez such a contract is a fireable offense.
Fortunately, New York can get out of Sanchez’s nightmare deal following the 2013 campaign, and its fans can finally move on to a real quarterback. Maybe Fireman Ed will even return.
December 20th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
I constantly debate about the value of the O-line, but in the draft I am a value guy.
To me, Chance Womack, Te’O and Geno Smith are far and away the best prospects at their positions.
Take one of those 3, IMO.
December 20th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
101.Just Fire Baby Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Mr. T’s rap video is EASILY one of the most intentionally funny things ever created.
If you haven’t seen it, youtube it.
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If u enjoyed that, then you would LOVE Shaq’s video.
I will say the Nintendo game “Shaq-Fu” was alot of fun.
December 20th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
Ok folks new MOCK draft 2013 via walter football
1 Kansas City Chiefs: Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia
This pick largely depends on what happens with Scott Pioli. If he’s fired, as the awesome @saveourchiefs movement is pushing for, this selection will be used on a quarterback. There currently is no signal-caller worth taking No. 1 overall, but that could easily change. Remember two years ago when ESPN was mocking Da’Quan Bowers and Nick Fairley to the Panthers? Well, Cam Newton ballooned to the top, as will some other quarterback this year. If not, the Chiefs could always trade down.
If Pioli is retained, he’ll pick Luke Joeckel, Manti Te’o or Star Lotulelei and then go for Mike Glennon in the second round. I’ve heard from a reliable source that Pioli really likes Glennon. Mel Kiper, by the way, stated that Glennon could be the first signal-caller off the board, so maybe the Wolfpack product will be the quarterback who rises to the top of the draft. A lot will change over the next four months.
By the way, I’m doing this live because I thought it’d be fun to get instant feedback. I’m going to post my mock anyway, so why not do it this way? Follow @walterfootball for updates.
2Jacksonville Jaguars: Jarvis Jones, DE/OLB, Georgia
I’ve been mocking a quarterback to the Jaguars for the longest time because it’s been clear that Blaine Gabbert is a sunk cost. I argued that there was no way in hell Jacksonville could go into the 2013 season and sell its fans on Gabbert for another year.
However, two things have happened. First, Matt Barkley has completely fallen off and cannot be taken at No. 2 overall right now. And second, Chad Henne was brilliant in two starts prior to playing the three AFC East teams. Unless this downward spiral continues, what the Jaguars can sell the fans on is Henne as a bridge to a young quarterback they take in Round 2. Thus, they’ll be free to snag someone as talented as Jarvis Jones.
Jones would be a huge boost to a defense that has missed strongside linebacker Daryl Smith all year. Smith is a free agent, so if he’s not re-signed, Jones would be a worthy replacement. He would function as Von Miller does in Denver, rushing the quarterback in obvious passing situations.
3 Oakland Raiders: Star Lotulelei, NT, Utah
Is there any doubt the Raiders need help at defensive tackle in the wake of Doug Martin’s near-record performance?
Richard Seymour’s contract will be voided at the end of the season. Meanwhile, Tommy Kelly is a bum who doesn’t care about winning, as evidenced when he laughed after prolonging a San Diego drive with a pair of offside penalties. He’s played so sluggishly this year and was especially bad versus Tampa, so there’s no chance he’s going to see a penny of his $6.5 million salary in 2013. He’s as good as gone, and 15-year-old head coach Dennis Allen lost all respect in the locker room for not cutting him after the opener.
4 Philadelphia Eagles: Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M
Is there any doubt that the Eagles have to upgrade their offensive line? Their tackle position is in shambles. Jason Peters tore his Achilles; Demetress Bell has been a bust signing; while King Dunlap simply sucks. Even if Peters comes back close to 100 percent, an upgrade could be made at right tackle, which would allow Todd Herremans to move back to his natural guard position.
Luke Joeckel had a slow start to his 2012 campaign, but he’s improved tremendously, even stifling the LSU pass-rushers. He could easily go in the top four, right after a quarterback and some order of Jarvis Jones and Star Lotulelei.
December 20th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
Mistic said Manziel “has the weakest arm he has ever seen from a college QB”.
He backed off it for a minute, especially when I told him of the SI article saying he amazed A & M staffers going throw for throw with Tannehill last year in camp.
December 20th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
Chiefs will take TEO, or StAR number 1 if PILIO is retained
December 20th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
I’m cool with drafting a pass rusher. Again, the only thing I really care about is getting a valid #1 WR, but that needs to occur in FA. Let the draft play itself out.
It’s a shame we don’t get any comp picks.
December 20th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
It is the Holidays…
hwnrdr Says:
Agreed…Merry Christmas!
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I gave Bo Schembechler Jackson a Christmas present this morning. Re posted Jon Condo’s Commitment to Excellence Award. Merry Christmas!
December 20th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
Chiefs will take TEO, or StAR number 1 if PILIO is retained
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Chiefs can’t afford to go Defense with their QB situation.
December 20th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
Vic Tafur@VicTafur
Terrelle Pryor won’t get extensive look Sunday because Carson Palmer “gives you the best chance to win,” Greg Knapp said. #Raiders
December 20th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
Chiefs will take TEO, or StAR number 1 if PILIO is retained
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Chiefs can’t afford to go Defense with their QB situation.
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did u read the report . Pioli loves a 2nd round qb
December 20th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/gameflash/2012/10/13
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Sounds like Stanford got screwed. Teo had a good game but they still allowed over 100 yards on the ground. Stephon Taylor had 102 on 28 carries.
December 20th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
128.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
Vic Tafur@VicTafur
Terrelle Pryor won’t get extensive look Sunday because Carson Palmer “gives you the best chance to win,” Greg Knapp said. #Raiders
^^^^^^^^^
Another reason why Knapp is completely out of touch and a moron.
December 20th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
weak arm? perfect for knapp…
December 20th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Either way Raiders should be in a spot to draft Jarvis Jones, Damontre moore if he comes out. Todd mcshay has him number 2 on his big board, Start Loutelieli, or Manti Te’o, but they cant win anymore.
Forget Luke Jockel.. we need impact D players. Veldhere is more then enough right now.
I dont want any LT that is the next gallery or not even better then Jared Valdehere
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was that true about allen wanting to installl a speed spread attack, or air raid offnese like wvu or texas a&m?
December 20th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
Mistic said Manziel “has the weakest arm he has ever seen from a college QB”.
He backed off it for a minute, especially when I told him of the SI article saying he amazed A & M staffers going throw for throw with Tannehill last year in camp.
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Yeah I remember that, it just lets you know he has an agenda. Johnny football should def fall under Mitics “Wave of the future” Qb but I guess because he’s white….
December 20th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
122.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
Ok folks new MOCK draft 2013 via walter football
1 Kansas City Chiefs: Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia
This pick largely depends on what happens with Scott Pioli. If he’s fired, as the awesome @saveourchiefs movement is pushing for, this selection will be used on a quarterback. There currently is no signal-caller worth taking No. 1 overall, but that could easily change. Remember two years ago when ESPN was mocking Da’Quan Bowers and Nick Fairley to the Panthers? Well, Cam Newton ballooned to the top, as will some other quarterback this year. If not, the Chiefs could always trade down.
If Pioli is retained, he’ll pick Luke Joeckel, Manti Te’o or Star Lotulelei and then go for Mike Glennon in the second round. I’ve heard from a reliable source that Pioli really likes Glennon. Mel Kiper, by the way, stated that Glennon could be the first signal-caller off the board, so maybe the Wolfpack product will be the quarterback who rises to the top of the draft. A lot will change over the next four months.
By the way, I’m doing this live because I thought it’d be fun to get instant feedback. I’m going to post my mock anyway, so why not do it this way? Follow @walterfootball for updates.
2Jacksonville Jaguars: Jarvis Jones, DE/OLB, Georgia
I’ve been mocking a quarterback to the Jaguars for the longest time because it’s been clear that Blaine Gabbert is a sunk cost. I argued that there was no way in hell Jacksonville could go into the 2013 season and sell its fans on Gabbert for another year.
However, two things have happened. First, Matt Barkley has completely fallen off and cannot be taken at No. 2 overall right now. And second, Chad Henne was brilliant in two starts prior to playing the three AFC East teams. Unless this downward spiral continues, what the Jaguars can sell the fans on is Henne as a bridge to a young quarterback they take in Round 2. Thus, they’ll be free to snag someone as talented as Jarvis Jones.
Jones would be a huge boost to a defense that has missed strongside linebacker Daryl Smith all year. Smith is a free agent, so if he’s not re-signed, Jones would be a worthy replacement. He would function as Von Miller does in Denver, rushing the quarterback in obvious passing situations.
3 Oakland Raiders: Star Lotulelei, NT, Utah
Is there any doubt the Raiders need help at defensive tackle in the wake of Doug Martin’s near-record performance?
Richard Seymour’s contract will be voided at the end of the season. Meanwhile, Tommy Kelly is a bum who doesn’t care about winning, as evidenced when he laughed after prolonging a San Diego drive with a pair of offside penalties. He’s played so sluggishly this year and was especially bad versus Tampa, so there’s no chance he’s going to see a penny of his $6.5 million salary in 2013. He’s as good as gone, and 15-year-old head coach Dennis Allen lost all respect in the locker room for not cutting him after the opener.
4 Philadelphia Eagles: Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M
Is there any doubt that the Eagles have to upgrade their offensive line? Their tackle position is in shambles. Jason Peters tore his Achilles; Demetress Bell has been a bust signing; while King Dunlap simply sucks. Even if Peters comes back close to 100 percent, an upgrade could be made at right tackle, which would allow Todd Herremans to move back to his natural guard position.
Luke Joeckel had a slow start to his 2012 campaign, but he’s improved tremendously, even stifling the LSU pass-rushers. He could easily go in the top four, right after a quarterback and some order of Jarvis Jones and Star Lotulelei.
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Too high for a 2 gap NT…..I have already said this so many times already.
December 20th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
Raider (since 1967) ★
HI CORK! I think Seymour and McClain have something.
They are playing sick so we can trade them or fire them so
They make more money $$$$$ in another Team with a New Contract !
December 20th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
128.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
Vic Tafur@VicTafur
Terrelle Pryor won’t get extensive look Sunday because Carson Palmer “gives you the best chance to win,” Greg Knapp said. #Raiders
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Just reading Knapps words from even a 3rd hand sources makes me want to punch him in his face.
December 20th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
Chiefs can’t afford to go Defense with their QB situation.
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Taking a QB just because you need one and have a high draft pick doesn’t…always… work…out…
December 20th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
Draft Demontrae Moore or trade down.
December 20th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
110.The_Judge37 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
For all the complaints about AD draft picks, you guys sure are worried about speed.
We just need a MLB to gobble up RB’s like Matt Millen used to do.
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Exactly.
Some these clowns in here need to learn that HWS and straight line 40 times are overrated when drafting.
It’s about getting legit football players first and foremost.
Study game tape and see what intangibles, smarts, toughness, leadership and work ethic a player brings to the table instead of worrying about straight line 40 speed.
December 20th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
I also said johhyny football was one of my favorite qb to watch in college.
I am not sold on the arm strength, but that could be a result of the passing offense they run, with lots of horizontal stretch passing concepts.
In the few times I have watched i have not seen him fit the ball into small windows or push the ball deep outside of the numbers.
In fact i saw a few wobbly floaters, but being a freshman means he will indeed grow in terms of arm strength.
Arm strength is luxury not necessarily a deal breaker.
steve young and joe montana didnt have rocket arms and they were pretty damn good
December 20th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
Chiefs can’t afford to go Defense with their QB situation.
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Taking a QB just because you need one and have a high draft pick doesn’t…always… work…out…
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Yes, but you don’t usually pass on one with the top pick especially if they need one. When Quinn and Cassell are your only options, then you can’t afford not to try
December 20th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
Chiefs can’t afford to go Defense with their QB situation.
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Taking a QB just because you need one and have a high draft pick doesn’t…always… work…out…
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If Geno is as good as everyone says he is how can the Chiefs pass on him?
December 20th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
There isnt “1″ QB I like as a first rd pick this year……
December 20th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Forgot about Clowney…IF he declares.
December 20th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Raider (since 1967★
What are the chances of get 2-3 top 10 in the Nfl Draft
Can we get #1 – Mantai Teo and #2 – Star Lotulelei also ?
We can get both? Or no!
December 20th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Manti is the next Brian Malaluga from.
December 20th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
was that true about allen wanting to installl a speed spread attack, or air raid offnese like wvu or texas a&m?
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He was quoting a post from Raider fans blog that nobody there put any credence in. Likelyhood of any veracity there akin to one of beeech dawgs posts.
December 20th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
I like Star, but getting a two gap fat NT/DT type within the top 3 picks would be an ill advised move.
You pick a top QB, top pass rushing OLB/DE, stud LB, maaaaybe a stud LT (even though I think that philosophy is overrated) or an elite RB (like AP) or otherwordly freak WR (like Megatron)
Look at the DT’s/NT’s who haev been top 4 picks recently. No impact, except for Ngata and he was picked 9th overall I believe the year we picked Huff.
2005 Travis Johnson was taken by Houston at 16. Where is he?
2006 Ngata was actually taken 12th. He is a stud.
Brod Bunkley was taken at 14 and he is servicable….I guess.
2007 Amobe Okoye and Justin Harrell were taken within the top 16. They stink! Patrick Willis was taken 11th and by all rights could haev been taken 4 spots higher.
2008 The year we took DMC and soem fo you were screaminfor Glenn Dorsey and Sedrick Ellis who were taken within the top 10 after we took DMC. Both of those guys have had no impact!
2009 The year Al reached and took DHB. BJ Raji was taken two spots after. I think most of us agree we should have taken at least 6 players ahead of DHB in that draft. BJ is one of them….however, BJ started off good, but has faded the last two years. He is overweight and gets tired way to quickly to make an impact on play by play basis.
2010 I think we all would have loved to have Suh be a Raider. Gerald McCoy? Not so much….he has faded. Suh has made an impact, even though he is bipolar and is not a leader. We took RoMac and of course he will be with the team next year.
2011 Marcel Dareus has been a non factor on a bad Bills D. The Lions should haev stayed away from Nick Fairley….an underachiever.
So there you go fellas. Is Star as dominant as Suh??
Hmm…..
I would still rather have Te’o ahead of Star without a doubt.
Te’o would be the new QB and leader of the defense. Stud LB, all heart with great work ethic and a good kid also, who would probably be a captain as well in his first year. Then look to add a fat NT type through FA or in the middle rounds of the draft.
December 20th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Forgot about Clowney…IF he declares.
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We could very well be in contention to draft him next year if knapp is retained, but its going to be a long interesting offeason, we shall see.
December 20th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
Raider (sie1967)★
Can Reggie get both?
STAR LOTULELEI
MANTAI TEO
JARVIS JONES
Is it Impossible or not?
December 20th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
007 when is the last time a MLB was drafted in the top top 5?
December 20th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
147.eastoaklandraider Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Manti is the next Brian Malaluga from.
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Nah….Te’o is not an alcoholic or drunk azz partier like Maualuga is.
Plus Te’o has much better lateral movement and is a leader.
December 20th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
You dont pick a MLB in the top 5 period.
December 20th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Actually u do pick a MLB now days cuz the cap for rookie contracts.
U pick a MLB if u really need a leader of ur defense like the Raiders do
December 20th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Raider ( since 1967)★
Stay with Tyvon Branch – Allen is working on the Defense for next Year.
Fire Knapp -Seymour – McClain- Tarver!
Bring -The good news — Al Saunder ! Before years is Out !
December 20th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
147.eastoaklandraider Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Manti is the next Brian Malaluga from.
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Nah….Te’o is not an alcoholic or drunk azz partier like Maualuga is.
Plus Te’o has much better lateral movement and is a leader.
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What MLB have you seen in the top 5?
December 20th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
152.eastoaklandraider Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
007 when is the last time a MLB was drafted in the top top 5?
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Long time.
Great MIKES out of college are not valued enough and that is a mistake. Look at Ray Lewis, Urlacher, Seau, and Willis…any one of those players should have been taken within the top 5 in a draft ahead of some of the busts that were taken. Urlacher, Willis and Seau were taken in the top 10 basically.
December 20th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
157.eastoaklandraider Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
147.eastoaklandraider Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Manti is the next Brian Malaluga from.
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Nah….Te’o is not an alcoholic or drunk azz partier like Maualuga is.
Plus Te’o has much better lateral movement and is a leader.
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What MLB have you seen in the top 5?
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Urlacher was the closet I believe…
December 20th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
Said it before. Reggie is very good at finding ILB s in the mid and later rounds.
Dont mock draft a lb early unless it’s a 3-4 olb pass rusher
December 20th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
155.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Actually u do pick a MLB now days cuz the cap for rookie contracts.
U pick a MLB if u really need a leader of ur defense like the Raiders do
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Exactly!
Then again, we haev Omar Gaitehr to man down that MIKE/ILB spot for the next 10 years right? Sheesh.
December 20th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Actually u do pick a MLB now days cuz the cap for rookie contracts.
U pick a MLB if u really need a leader of ur defense like the Raiders do
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Teo doesnt have as much worth as Moore,Star,LT from a&m,Mingo, even Jarvis jones has more value than Teo at least he saks the qb and forces fumbles.
December 20th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
omoran Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Raider ( since 1967)★
Stay with Tyvon Branch – Allen is working on the Defense for next Year.
Fire Knapp -Seymour – McClain- Tarver!
Bring -The good news — Al Saunder ! Before years is Out !
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I don’t agree with fire the staff, but keep the guy who oversees them. They’ve all done a terrible job pretty equally
December 20th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
157.eastoaklandraider Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
147.eastoaklandraider Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Manti is the next Brian Malaluga from.
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Nah….Te’o is not an alcoholic or drunk azz partier like Maualuga is.
Plus Te’o has much better lateral movement and is a leader.
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What MLB have you seen in the top 5?
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Urlacher was the closet I believe…
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Nope not even in the top 10.
December 20th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
Raider(since 1967) ★
ESPN -John Clayton said : this is not a Good Year to pic a
Qb. Its a poor class this year. !
December 20th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
My bad Urlacher drafted 9th
December 20th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Actually u do pick a MLB now days cuz the cap for rookie contracts.
U pick a MLB if u really need a leader of ur defense like the Raiders do
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Teo doesnt have as much worth as Moore,Star,LT from a&m,Mingo, even Jarvis jones has more value than Teo at least he saks the qb and forces fumbles.
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We need to stop the run. It’s not like we play with the lead to where a Pass rusher would be a luxury. I know we need some kinda rush but we can find stop gap 3rd down guys in FA. But a Franchise MLB is something we need desperatly
December 20th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
147.eastoaklandraider Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Manti is the next Brian Malaluga from.
^^^^^^^^
Nah….Te’o is not an alcoholic or drunk azz partier like Maualuga is.
Plus Te’o has much better lateral movement and is a leader.
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What MLB have you seen in the top 5?
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Does Von Miller count?
December 20th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
ESPN has announced that Rob Parker will be allowed to return to the air after a 30-day suspension for questioning whether Redskins quarterback Robert Griffin III is authentically black because, among other things, Griffin has a white fiancee.
Marcia Keegan, a Vice President of Production for ESPN, released a statement announcing the duration of Parker’s suspension and vowing that ESPN will take greater care in the way its debates on the show Parker appears on, First Take, are presented going forward.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/20/rob-parker-will-return-to-espn-after-30-day-ban-for-rg3-remarks/
December 20th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Actually u do pick a MLB now days cuz the cap for rookie contracts.
U pick a MLB if u really need a leader of ur defense like the Raiders do
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Teo doesnt have as much worth as Moore,Star,LT from a&m,Mingo, even Jarvis jones has more value than Teo at least he saks the qb and forces fumbles.
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We need to stop the run. It’s not like we play with the lead to where a Pass rusher would be a luxury. I know we need some kinda rush but we can find stop gap 3rd down guys in FA. But a Franchise MLB is something we need desperatly
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No, it is much harder to find a pass rusher than a mlb and it would be cheaper and a better idea imo to find a mlb in FA. You dont get the opportunity to draft great pass rushers often must take the chance when you get it.
December 20th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Gdog Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
147.eastoaklandraider Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Manti is the next Brian Malaluga from.
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Nah….Te’o is not an alcoholic or drunk azz partier like Maualuga is.
Plus Te’o has much better lateral movement and is a leader.
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What MLB have you seen in the top 5?
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Does Von Miller count?
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is he a MLB?
December 20th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
160.GG Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
Said it before. Reggie is very good at finding ILB s in the mid and later rounds.
Dont mock draft a lb early unless it’s a 3-4 olb pass rusher
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Thats how it usually is unfortunately. That’s how bust picks are made.
McK should trade down 8 spots….get a 2nd rounder and snatch Te’o and he would be the foundation of a rebuilt defense.
December 20th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
170.eastoaklandraider Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Actually u do pick a MLB now days cuz the cap for rookie contracts.
U pick a MLB if u really need a leader of ur defense like the Raiders do
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Teo doesnt have as much worth as Moore,Star,LT from a&m,Mingo, even Jarvis jones has more value than Teo at least he saks the qb and forces fumbles.
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We need to stop the run. It’s not like we play with the lead to where a Pass rusher would be a luxury. I know we need some kinda rush but we can find stop gap 3rd down guys in FA. But a Franchise MLB is something we need desperatly
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No, it is much harder to find a pass rusher than a mlb and it would be cheaper and a better idea imo to find a mlb in FA. You dont get the opportunity to draft great pass rushers often must take the chance when you get it.
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What are the chances of Raiders actually picking up a decent MIKE/ILB in FA??
The Raiders won’t be major players in FA. No money.
December 20th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
157.eastoaklandraider Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
147.eastoaklandraider Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Manti is the next Brian Malaluga from.
^^^^^^^^
Nah….Te’o is not an alcoholic or drunk azz partier like Maualuga is.
Plus Te’o has much better lateral movement and is a leader.
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What MLB have you seen in the top 5?
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Urlacher was the closet I believe…
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drafted 9th Romac drafted 8th, that 2 in the past how many years? you just dont draft mlb’s that high.
December 20th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
Raider (since1967)★
Reggie is awful Quiet! Huh. Something might be cooking in his kitchen .Hope is Knapp !
Can you guys Imagine — If Reggie gives a press Conference and says -Al Saunder is in.
He will be the next Raiders Off Coordinator and coach !
It ‘ll be the Best gift he can give us!
December 20th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
Teo doesnt have as much worth as Moore,Star,LT from a&m,Mingo, even Jarvis jones has more value than Teo at least he saks the qb and forces fumbles.”
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Ya to you he doesnt. But to REGGIE and DA he has more value then probaly anyone else in the draft.
DA was basically screaming for a LEADER on this defense in yesterdays article. Especially after everything he went through with McClain they realize more then ever they do.
MLB is like the center of ur defense. Someone to be vocal change calls, signals etc. Reggie even said he is waiting for a defensive leader to step up.
Corky said its TEO or trade down. Guess ppl in the building have already gave him hints its TEO or nothing
December 20th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
167.The_Judge37 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Actually u do pick a MLB now days cuz the cap for rookie contracts.
U pick a MLB if u really need a leader of ur defense like the Raiders do
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Teo doesnt have as much worth as Moore,Star,LT from a&m,Mingo, even Jarvis jones has more value than Teo at least he saks the qb and forces fumbles.
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We need to stop the run. It’s not like we play with the lead to where a Pass rusher would be a luxury. I know we need some kinda rush but we can find stop gap 3rd down guys in FA. But a Franchise MLB is something we need desperatly
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Yep. Need a legit QB and leader of the defense that the D players will rally around.
They are plenty of pass rushing DE’s/OLB’s types in this upcoming draft. Not alot of legit MIKE/ILB’s like Te’o.
December 20th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
McK should trade down 8 spots….get a 2nd rounder and snatch Te’o and he would be the foundation of a rebuilt defense.
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Calling any college players a NFL foundation player, is pure speculation
December 20th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
176.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
Teo doesnt have as much worth as Moore,Star,LT from a&m,Mingo, even Jarvis jones has more value than Teo at least he saks the qb and forces fumbles.”
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Ya to you he doesnt. But to REGGIE and DA he has more value then probaly anyone else in the draft.
DA was basically screaming for a LEADER on this defense in yesterdays article. Especially after everything he went through with McClain they realize more then ever they do.
MLB is like the center of ur defense. Someone to be vocal change calls, signals etc. Reggie even said he is waiting for a defensive leader to step up.
Corky said its TEO or trade down. Guess ppl in the building have already gave him hints its TEO or nothing
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That’s why I keep saying…a QB if the defense!
December 20th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
170.eastoaklandraider Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Actually u do pick a MLB now days cuz the cap for rookie contracts.
U pick a MLB if u really need a leader of ur defense like the Raiders do
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Teo doesnt have as much worth as Moore,Star,LT from a&m,Mingo, even Jarvis jones has more value than Teo at least he saks the qb and forces fumbles.
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We need to stop the run. It’s not like we play with the lead to where a Pass rusher would be a luxury. I know we need some kinda rush but we can find stop gap 3rd down guys in FA. But a Franchise MLB is something we need desperatly
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No, it is much harder to find a pass rusher than a mlb and it would be cheaper and a better idea imo to find a mlb in FA. You dont get the opportunity to draft great pass rushers often must take the chance when you get it.
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What are the chances of Raiders actually picking up a decent MIKE/ILB in FA??
The Raiders won’t be major players in FA. No money.
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we’ve always had cap problem with Al and still made moves every year the key is backloading the contract.
December 20th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
Raiders need to take Te’o or trade down….sounds good to me.
December 20th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
180.eastoaklandraider Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
170.eastoaklandraider Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Actually u do pick a MLB now days cuz the cap for rookie contracts.
U pick a MLB if u really need a leader of ur defense like the Raiders do
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Teo doesnt have as much worth as Moore,Star,LT from a&m,Mingo, even Jarvis jones has more value than Teo at least he saks the qb and forces fumbles.
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We need to stop the run. It’s not like we play with the lead to where a Pass rusher would be a luxury. I know we need some kinda rush but we can find stop gap 3rd down guys in FA. But a Franchise MLB is something we need desperatly
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No, it is much harder to find a pass rusher than a mlb and it would be cheaper and a better idea imo to find a mlb in FA. You dont get the opportunity to draft great pass rushers often must take the chance when you get it.
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What are the chances of Raiders actually picking up a decent MIKE/ILB in FA??
The Raiders won’t be major players in FA. No money.
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we’ve always had cap problem with Al and still made moves every year the key is backloading the contract.
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True, but McK is still not going to overspend…especially after the mistake of signing Brisiel.
December 20th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
Fire the East Coast!
5 wins 26 losses
There’s the culprit, regardless of the coaches, scheme or players.
Fire the East Coast!
December 20th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
178.KoolKell Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
McK should trade down 8 spots….get a 2nd rounder and snatch Te’o and he would be the foundation of a rebuilt defense.
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Calling any college players a NFL foundation player, is pure speculation
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Uhh..well if you want to get technical the whole draft process is based on projection and speculation isn’t it?
Come on now son.
December 20th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Your earlier post knight highlighted the bust rate of DT early.
The imperative thing is the front seven needs a lot of work.
We need a bulwark nt a ray Lewis type of ILB and probably two olb/de pass rushers that are every down players.
So whatever order we get all that I’m not fussed as long as we do.
As well as switching to a 3-4 Bryant Houston at end and have a platoon of lbs on the roster like about 8.
Only problem is we also need a center and a lt and a rt.
So we need to offload some value players to rebuild. Dmac Palmer shaughnessy branch huff dhb brisiel etc.
Resign leinart keep Pryor around for another camp see if he can progress. Draft qb in 2014 once the foundation is built of a top d and an above average OL
December 20th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
Teo doesnt have as much worth as Moore,Star,LT from a&m,Mingo, even Jarvis jones has more value than Teo at least he saks the qb and forces fumbles.”
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Ya to you he doesnt. But to REGGIE and DA he has more value then probaly anyone else in the draft.
DA was basically screaming for a LEADER on this defense in yesterdays article. Especially after everything he went through with McClain they realize more then ever they do.
MLB is like the center of ur defense. Someone to be vocal change calls, signals etc. Reggie even said he is waiting for a defensive leader to step up.
Corky said its TEO or trade down. Guess ppl in the building have already gave him hints its TEO or nothing
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They are retarded then. They would pass up a blue-chip LT and stud DE & DL for idiot. I’ll be starting reading draft reports for 2014 then. A fu**kig MLB when we have given up some of the worst passing statistics not to mention Aldon Smith has more sacks than the Raiders.
December 20th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Gdog Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
147.eastoaklandraider Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Manti is the next Brian Malaluga from.
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Nah….Te’o is not an alcoholic or drunk azz partier like Maualuga is.
Plus Te’o has much better lateral movement and is a leader.
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What MLB have you seen in the top 5?
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Does Von Miller count?
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is he a MLB?
>>>>>
Are OLB’s more important than MLB’s or something?
Or did you just make up that caveat to force a point?
December 20th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
Team leaders are overrated, the coach should be the team leader. Show me someone who makes millions of dollars and still needs extra motivation from a teammate and Ill show you someone I dont want on my team.
December 20th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Are OLB’s more important than MLB’s or something?
Or did you just make up that caveat to force a point?
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If they are a pass rusher yes. Who do you think anybody in this league would rather have, Urlacher-Lewis or the James Harrison’s, Aldon Smith’s, Von Miller’s of the world?
December 20th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
Team leaders are overrated, the coach should be the team leader. Show me someone who makes millions of dollars and still needs extra motivation from a teammate and Ill show you someone I dont want on my team.
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That rah-rah crap means nothing at this level
BEST PICK: Linebacker Rolando McClain: A physical force and a natural leader on a defense that has ranked 29th, 31st and 31st over the past three years. A common sense pick at No. 8 overall to address a major weakness.
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/profilexnews.php?pyid=70847&draftyear=2010&genpos=ILB
December 20th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
Gdog Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Gdog Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
147.eastoaklandraider Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Manti is the next Brian Malaluga from.
^^^^^^^^
Nah….Te’o is not an alcoholic or drunk azz partier like Maualuga is.
Plus Te’o has much better lateral movement and is a leader.
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What MLB have you seen in the top 5?
>>>>
Does Von Miller count?
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is he a MLB?
>>>>>
Are OLB’s more important than MLB’s or something?
Or did you just make up that caveat to force a point?
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In a 3-4 D yes they are, they are basically just pass rushers, see Lamar woodley, James Harrison, Clay Matthews they are all worth more tha Mlb’s. Von Miller falls under that category.
December 20th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
188.eastoaklandraider Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
Team leaders are overrated, the coach should be the team leader. Show me someone who makes millions of dollars and still needs extra motivation from a teammate and Ill show you someone I dont want on my team.
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Hmm…team leaders types Ray Ray Lewis, Urlacher, Brady, P Manning, L Fletcher, Willis, Seau, Brees, Vilma are overrated?
I have to take a look at that.
Granted players do need a solid coaching staff to lead them.
December 20th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
No, it is much harder to find a pass rusher than a mlb and it would be cheaper and a better idea imo to find a mlb in FA. You dont get the opportunity to draft great pass rushers often must take the chance when you get it.
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We’ve found pass rusher’s in the past offseason’s like Burgess, Clemons and Wimbley.
Guys like Danny Clark are what stop gap MLB’s look like.
Plus we can find one trik pony Rushers like Trevor Scott late in the draft. Not long term solutions but we’re not going to fill all holes in this draft.
December 20th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
191.eastoaklandraider Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
Gdog Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Gdog Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
147.eastoaklandraider Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Manti is the next Brian Malaluga from.
^^^^^^^^
Nah….Te’o is not an alcoholic or drunk azz partier like Maualuga is.
Plus Te’o has much better lateral movement and is a leader.
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What MLB have you seen in the top 5?
>>>>
Does Von Miller count?
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is he a MLB?
>>>>>
Are OLB’s more important than MLB’s or something?
Or did you just make up that caveat to force a point?
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In a 3-4 D yes they are, they are basically just pass rushers, see Lamar woodley, James Harrison, Clay Matthews they are all worth more tha Mlb’s. Von Miller falls under that category.
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So you think the Niners don’t need Patrick Willis anymore?
December 20th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
Here’s a video of the “coaches tape” of most of McFaddens long runs and TD runs from last year I made: netbinders.net/upload/Mcf_2011.mp4 You can decide for yourself if there is better blocking, better scheme, or he was just running faster or hitting the holes better. You prolly need high speed internet to download.
December 20th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
No, it is much harder to find a pass rusher than a mlb and it would be cheaper and a better idea imo to find a mlb in FA. You dont get the opportunity to draft great pass rushers often must take the chance when you get it.
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We’ve found pass rusher’s in the past offseason’s like Burgess, Clemons and Wimbley.
Guys like Danny Clark are what stop gap MLB’s look like.
Plus we can find one trik pony Rushers like Trevor Scott late in the draft. Not long term solutions but we’re not going to fill all holes in this draft.
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If you go and look at the top 5 picks, for the last 20 years, how many times does a DE or pass-rushing LB, CB, DT go before a MLB? After QB, I’d say teams value either a LT or a pass-rushing DE/LB #2
December 20th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
^^^^^^^^
So you think the Niners don’t need Patrick Willis anymore?
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WHo you think they want more? him or Aldon Smith?
December 20th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
Team leaders are overrated, the coach should be the team leader. Show me someone who makes millions of dollars and still needs extra motivation from a teammate and Ill show you someone I dont want on my team.
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That rah-rah crap means nothing at this level
BEST PICK: Linebacker Rolando McClain: A physical force and a natural leader on a defense that has ranked 29th, 31st and 31st over the past three years. A common sense pick at No. 8 overall to address a major weakness.
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/profilexnews.php?pyid=70847&draftyear=2010&genpos=ILB
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Exactly, all that schit Ray lewis does or even Drew brees may last for a few plays but guess what after that adrenaline wears off and you get into the game you better know how to make plays speeches be damned.
December 20th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
190.The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
Team leaders are overrated, the coach should be the team leader. Show me someone who makes millions of dollars and still needs extra motivation from a teammate and Ill show you someone I dont want on my team.
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That rah-rah crap means nothing at this level
BEST PICK: Linebacker Rolando McClain: A physical force and a natural leader on a defense that has ranked 29th, 31st and 31st over the past three years. A common sense pick at No. 8 overall to address a major weakness.
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/profilexnews.php?pyid=70847&draftyear=2010&genpos=ILB
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Actually some were questioning RoMacs coverage ability and whether or not he can be a MIKE in a base 4-3 after playing in the 3-4 in college.
Raiders didn’t run a 3-4 while RoMac was here to utilize his skills.
December 20th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
^^^^^^^^
So you think the Niners don’t need Patrick Willis anymore?
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WHo you think they want more? him or Aldon Smith?
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Thank you.
December 20th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Raider(since 1967) ★
We have to contain Cam Newton dude and be ready. Don’t chase him out of the pocket or he will hurt us ! Need guys to be aware when he takes off and be Smelling the Rivera screens.
2-3 MEN Must be assign to him on both side and Omar must look at Newton’s head all the time. Hope Allen and Tiver are paying Attention to Film! Trick plays hurt don’t commit to quick, players in the back don’t miss assignments
December 20th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
If you go and look at the top 5 picks, for the last 20 years, how many times does a DE or pass-rushing LB, CB, DT go before a MLB? After QB, I’d say teams value either a LT or a pass-rushing DE/LB #2
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Yeah but it doesn’t really matter where you get the guy, as long as it’s the right one. For every Von Miller there’s a Vernon Gholston.
December 20th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
Uhh..well if you want to get technical the whole draft process is based on projection and speculation isn’t it?
Come on now son.
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Yep, that’s why I take issue with declaring Teo the foundation of our defense of the future.
December 20th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
^^^^^^^^
So you think the Niners don’t need Patrick Willis anymore?
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WHo you think they want more? him or Aldon Smith?
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Willis
December 20th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
It’s 18 plays with music. If you pay close attention most of the runs started out inside and then kicked outside… with outstanding downfield blocking. The 70 yard play in particular shows our WR’s clearing out tacklers 20 yards downfield, DHB in particular.
netbinders.net/upload/Mcf_2011.mp4
December 20th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
I like Te’o, Werner, Clowney or Moore as the Raiders potential top 4 pick.
I think taking a NT/DT Star within the top 4 is just too high.
December 20th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
No, it is much harder to find a pass rusher than a mlb and it would be cheaper and a better idea imo to find a mlb in FA. You dont get the opportunity to draft great pass rushers often must take the chance when you get it.
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We’ve found pass rusher’s in the past offseason’s like Burgess, Clemons and Wimbley.
Guys like Danny Clark are what stop gap MLB’s look like.
Plus we can find one trik pony Rushers like Trevor Scott late in the draft. Not long term solutions but we’re not going to fill all holes in this draft.
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If you go and look at the top 5 picks, for the last 20 years, how many times does a DE or pass-rushing LB, CB, DT go before a MLB? After QB, I’d say teams value either a LT or a pass-rushing DE/LB #2
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Thank you once again, this James Trapp guy has some football sense, not just wanting his favorite college player drafted.
December 20th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
204.The_Judge37 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
^^^^^^^^
So you think the Niners don’t need Patrick Willis anymore?
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WHo you think they want more? him or Aldon Smith?
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Willis
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Aldon Smith needs to thank Justin Smith for opening things up for him.
J Smith is a 5 tech DE in their 3-4. An ideal one also.
December 20th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
papertiger418 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 11:58 am
Anybody else think we should all chip in a get DA a training bra for Xmas?
And a girdle for Reggie.
And a bustle for Knapp.
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Or you could just loan them some of your stuff.
Of course we’ll have to have it de-loused and disinfected first.
December 20th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
^^^^^^^^
So you think the Niners don’t need Patrick Willis anymore?
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WHo you think they want more? him or Aldon Smith?
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Willis
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Yeah right, be real it would be much easier to replace willis than to replace smith, they still have Bowman who seems to get zero credit.
December 20th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
No, it is much harder to find a pass rusher than a mlb and it would be cheaper and a better idea imo to find a mlb in FA. You dont get the opportunity to draft great pass rushers often must take the chance when you get it.
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We’ve found pass rusher’s in the past offseason’s like Burgess, Clemons and Wimbley.
Guys like Danny Clark are what stop gap MLB’s look like.
Plus we can find one trik pony Rushers like Trevor Scott late in the draft. Not long term solutions but we’re not going to fill all holes in this draft.
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If you go and look at the top 5 picks, for the last 20 years, how many times does a DE or pass-rushing LB, CB, DT go before a MLB? After QB, I’d say teams value either a LT or a pass-rushing DE/LB #2
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I agree. That has happened and it had proven to be a mistake to pass up on LB’s like Lewis, Urlacher, Willis.
Look at the draft bust history based on positional value.
December 20th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
I like Te’o, Werner, Clowney or Moore as the Raiders potential top 4 pick.
I think taking a NT/DT Star within the top 4 is just too high.
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Yeah especially since big fat guys wear out fast. Probably need someone who’s going to be effective an entire game.
December 20th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Exactly, all that schit Ray lewis does or even Drew brees may last for a few plays but guess what after that adrenaline wears off and you get into the game you better know how to make plays speeches be damned.
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Yeah, but how many times after a big play on either offense or defense do you see players go run up and hug the coach? One thing that Allen said is he needs someone who can quarterback the defense. I thought that was an interesting statement because we have needed that for years around here. Getting guys lined up and in the right defense is a necessity. It doesn’t have to be the mike, Rod Woodson was able to do that from the secondary but it should.
December 20th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
It’s all about getting the best overall legit FOOTBALL players first.
December 20th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
204.The_Judge37 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
^^^^^^^^
So you think the Niners don’t need Patrick Willis anymore?
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WHo you think they want more? him or Aldon Smith?
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Willis
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Aldon Smith needs to thank Justin Smith for opening things up for him.
J Smith is a 5 tech DE in their 3-4. An ideal one also.
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who was justin smith opening it up for before aldon smith? Manny Lawson? C’mon man get real.
December 20th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
^^^^^^^^
So you think the Niners don’t need Patrick Willis anymore?
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WHo you think they want more? him or Aldon Smith?
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Willis
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Yeah right, be real it would be much easier to replace willis than to replace smith, they still have Bowman who seems to get zero credit.
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Nah, there’s way more pass rush specialists in this league, very few MLB’s that can do everything right. Lewis, Urlacher, Willis.
Pass rusher’s there’s guys like Freeny, Peppers, Smith, Watt, Miller, Dumerville, Hali, etc…
December 20th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
Louis Murphy’s the #2 wide receiver for the Panthers this weekend. Bring the pain! Let’s see those alligator arms in action.
December 20th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
It’s all about getting the best overall legit FOOTBALL players first.
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And that aint Teo.
December 20th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
papertiger418 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
Louis Murphy’s the #2 wide receiver for the Panthers this weekend. Bring the pain! Let’s see those alligator arms in action.
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Hope so. Just hope we don’t see him pushing Huff 20 yards down field blocking for Newton or Williams
December 20th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
Raider (since 1967) ★
The Odds are Carolina –fhe lines -8.5 pts over Raiders.
We can Surprise an Upset here if Raiders can keep the offense out there and keep it away from Newton. Ball control and time of possetion. Palmer must keep drives going, throw short behind 1rst down markers. Defense must keep arms up and blind him or bat the ball down. Strip the.ball and.be carefull when we have the ball that you don’t get stripped also.
December 20th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
^^^^^^^^
So you think the Niners don’t need Patrick Willis anymore?
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WHo you think they want more? him or Aldon Smith?
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Willis
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Yeah right, be real it would be much easier to replace willis than to replace smith, they still have Bowman who seems to get zero credit.
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Nah, there’s way more pass rush specialists in this league, very few MLB’s that can do everything right. Lewis, Urlacher, Willis.
Pass rusher’s there’s guys like Freeny, Peppers, Smith, Watt, Miller, Dumerville, Hali, etc…
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You dont need a mlb to get everthing right when you have other great players. Last time I checked a legit DE was harder to find than a legit mlb and last time I checked Ray lewis and Urlacher had some pretty good players in front and behind them. DE’ go at it alone while MLb’s need good players in front of them.
December 20th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
If we can hold the Edges, Newton will come to us for the sacks. Just control the edges and gaps and we’ll control Carolina for the game. This will be a good test to see if DA and Tarver can get these guys to play diciplined FB
December 20th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
You dont need a mlb to get everthing right when you have other great players. Last time I checked a legit DE was harder to find than a legit mlb and last time I checked Ray lewis and Urlacher had some pretty good players in front and behind them. DE’ go at it alone while MLb’s need good players in front of them.
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Well doesn’t it go both ways, Those MLB’s make things easier for the players in front of them too. But i just named a lot more Pass rusher in this league than MLB’s. You think those guys are easily replaceable but they’re not, just look at what the Bears and Ravens have struggled when they’ve been out.
December 20th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
If you go and look at the top 5 picks, for the last 20 years, how many times does a DE or pass-rushing LB, CB, DT go before a MLB? After QB, I’d say teams value either a LT or a pass-rushing DE/LB #2
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Had to repost this. Teo wont be picked ahead of Star,Moore,Lockell,Jarvis Jones even.
December 20th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
I’d take the WR from Cal before I took Teo.
December 20th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
If you go and look at the top 5 picks, for the last 20 years, how many times does a DE or pass-rushing LB, CB, DT go before a MLB? After QB, I’d say teams value either a LT or a pass-rushing DE/LB #2
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Had to repost this. Teo wont be picked ahead of Star,Moore,Lockell,Jarvis Jones even.
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Doesn’t mean they’ll be better than him
December 20th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
8.DMAC Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
HC – Shaw
OC – Norv
DC – Romeo
Draft Te’o!
Sign Bowe!
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That would work. More offensive input would be needed from David Shaw though.
December 20th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
226.The_Judge37 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
If you go and look at the top 5 picks, for the last 20 years, how many times does a DE or pass-rushing LB, CB, DT go before a MLB? After QB, I’d say teams value either a LT or a pass-rushing DE/LB #2
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Had to repost this. Teo wont be picked ahead of Star,Moore,Lockell,Jarvis Jones even.
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Doesn’t mean they’ll be better than him
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Exactly!
December 20th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Beast DE’s usually go before anybody except Top QB’s
December 20th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
218.eastoaklandraider Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
It’s all about getting the best overall legit FOOTBALL players first.
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And that aint Teo.
^^^^^^^^
Te’o is NOT a football player now?? Lol!
December 20th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
If we had a Draft now of pure Defensive players of the last decade, Knowing eveything you know about their careers, who would take a DE or OLB over guys like Willis and Lewis?
December 20th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
If the Raiders land a top 3 pick, they really do need to trade down though and hope some team falls in love with that LT from A&M or Moore, or Clowney or the QB Tyler Wilson from Arkansas if he declares.
December 20th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
You dont need a mlb to get everthing right when you have other great players. Last time I checked a legit DE was harder to find than a legit mlb and last time I checked Ray lewis and Urlacher had some pretty good players in front and behind them. DE’ go at it alone while MLb’s need good players in front of them.
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Well doesn’t it go both ways, Those MLB’s make things easier for the players in front of them too. But i just named a lot more Pass rusher in this league than MLB’s. You think those guys are easily replaceable but they’re not, just look at what the Bears and Ravens have struggled when they’ve been out.
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You just named a few but there are many more that you are unaware of and thats just because a mlb doesnt make a great impact the way a De or an olb does and therefore most arent in the lime light hell do you even know about the Ilb that plays next to willis? he is just as good if not better.
December 20th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
MLB’s are not taken very highly. In fact after McClain, one of the next guys taken highly as a pure MLB this century was Napolean Harris. And we all know how these guys worked out.
December 20th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
If we had a Draft now of pure Defensive players of the last decade, Knowing eveything you know about their careers, who would take a DE or OLB over guys like Willis and Lewis?
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LOL, are you serious? All the top DE’s would fly off the board before 1 single MLB was picked.
December 20th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
007 when is the last time a MLB was drafted in the top top 5?
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I think it was A.J. Hawk wasn’t it?
December 20th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
You just named a few but there are many more that you are unaware of and thats just because a mlb doesnt make a great impact the way a De or an olb does and therefore most arent in the lime light hell do you even know about the Ilb that plays next to willis? he is just as good if not better.
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Pass rusher’s just get the glory. Doesn’t mean they do more for their team.
And let’s see Bowman be a beast for as long as Willis has and not Fade out like Bart Scott when he left Ray’s side.
December 20th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
David Shaw just signed an extension with Stanford. Won’t be seeing him around these parts anytime soon.
December 20th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
Didn’t Shaw sign an extension with Stanford & son
December 20th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
MLB’s are not taken very highly. In fact after McClain, one of the next guys taken highly as a pure MLB this century was Napolean Harris. And we all know how these guys worked out.
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Like i said it doesn’t matter what spot they were taken in, it’s who you get.
December 20th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Napolean Harris is running for Congress, by the way. Gearing up to replace Jesse Jackson Jr.
December 20th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
If we had a Draft now of pure Defensive players of the last decade, Knowing eveything you know about their careers, who would take a DE or OLB over guys like Willis and Lewis?
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LOL, are you serious? All the top DE’s would fly off the board before 1 single MLB was picked.
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What pass rusher has had a career as long as Lewis and Urlacher? Freeny and Peppers maybe
December 20th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
218.eastoaklandraider Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
It’s all about getting the best overall legit FOOTBALL players first.
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And that aint Teo.
^^^^^^^^
Te’o is NOT a football player now?? Lol!
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Did you comprehend your own statement? lol, he wont be picked ahead of the other players that have been mentioned.
December 20th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
I would also like for them to trade down a like 6-8 spots and get pass rushing OLB/DE Dion Jordan!
December 20th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
Jordan is a beast man…..He definately had a better year last year when he played strictly DE. LOTS more pressures / sacks / and knockdowns.
This year he’s been standing up alot and covering receivers. But he has really good closing speed and sideline speed.
December 20th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
245.theghostronin79 Says:
December 20th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
Jordan is a beast man…..He definately had a better year last year when he played strictly DE. LOTS more pressures / sacks / and knockdowns.
This year he’s been standing up alot and covering receivers. But he has really good closing speed and sideline speed.
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Ideal as stand up OLB pass rusher in 3-4 looks. Might be a bit too light to play as a full time down pass rushing RDE in a 4-3.
December 20th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
David Shaw was in demand and Stanford did the smart thing because I believe Mark Davis has sent a kite his way to get a what level of interest he had. Stanford made a pre-emptive move.
To take anything this cocaching staff does with Pryor as somehow a reflection on Pryor is a mistake it is in fact an indictment against this coaching staff. If they lose this kid to another team and he goes to say Arizona this staff and Reggie McK will suffer the consequences. QB’s are very hard to get because everybody wants one and for them to have this kid in their charge and not develope him will be essentially what Atl did when they traded Brett Farve before ever giving him a chance to compete.
Thiis wont be the only time a team had a great talent under their nose and didn’t realize it. It happens all the time. TB had Steve Young, our own Oakland Raiders drafted Roman Gabriel and gave him away. They’re going down that road once again. They just don’t recognize talent in their own camp.