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Seymour, Branch not at practice once again

By Steve Corkran
Thursday, December 20th, 2012 at 11:56 am in Oakland Raiders.

Defensive tackle Richard Seymour and strong safety Tyvon Branch aren’t at practice today for the second straight day. All in all, the Raiders still are relatively healthy for a team about to play its 15th regular-season game.
It’s doubtful that Seymour will play Sunday against the Carolina Panthers, given he has missed the past six games and his injured hamstring isn’t healed enough for him to practice.
Branch’s situation is another matter. He played last Sunday despite missing most of practice leading up to the Kansas City Chiefs game.
It’s likely that things will play out the same this Sunday, with Seymour inactive and Branch playing at less than 100 percent.

– As for playing time Sunday, coach Dennis Allen said he doesn’t expect any lineup changes or the playing time to be much different than it was for the Chiefs game.
“No, it’s going to be pretty similar to what we did last week,” Allen said. “Still getting an opportunity to look at a few guys.”
That doesn’t bode well for quarterbacks Matt Leinart and Terrelle Pryor, running back Taiwan Jones and backup tight ends Richard Gordon and David Ausberry, guys that played sparingly against the Chiefs.
Pryor got on the field for four plays. Well, three plays if you don’t count the false-start penalty to begin his one drive. Pryor handed off twice and then missed wide on a pass for wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey on third down.

– The Raiders get one final shot at winning a game played in the Eastern Standard Time zone this Sunday, when they travel to Charlotte, N.C.
So far, they are 0-4 this season in such games, with losses at Miami, Atlanta, Baltimore and Cincinnati. In 2011, they went 0-2, with losses in Buffalo and Miami. In 2010, they lost both times on the east coast, against Pittsburgh and Miami.
The streak stands at nine straight losses, dating to Dec. 6, 2009, when the Raiders beat the Steelers in Pittsburgh behind a stellar game from quarterback Bruce Gradkowski and wide receiver Louis Murphy.
Since Dec. 15, 2002, the Raiders are 5-26 in games played back east.

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  • omoran

    Raider (sie1967)★
    Can Reggie get both?
    STAR LOTULELEI
    MANTAI TEO
    JARVIS JONES

    Is it Impossible or not?

  • eastoaklandraider

    007 when is the last time a MLB was drafted in the top top 5?

  • DKnight007

    147.eastoaklandraider Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
    Manti is the next Brian Malaluga from.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Nah….Te’o is not an alcoholic or drunk azz partier like Maualuga is.

    Plus Te’o has much better lateral movement and is a leader.

  • eastoaklandraider

    You dont pick a MLB in the top 5 period.

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    Actually u do pick a MLB now days cuz the cap for rookie contracts.

    U pick a MLB if u really need a leader of ur defense like the Raiders do

  • omoran

    Raider ( since 1967)★
    Stay with Tyvon Branch – Allen is working on the Defense for next Year.
    Fire Knapp -Seymour – McClain- Tarver!
    Bring -The good news — Al Saunder ! Before years is Out !

  • eastoaklandraider

    DKnight007 Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
    147.eastoaklandraider Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
    Manti is the next Brian Malaluga from.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Nah….Te’o is not an alcoholic or drunk azz partier like Maualuga is.

    Plus Te’o has much better lateral movement and is a leader.
    ————-

    What MLB have you seen in the top 5?

  • DKnight007

    152.eastoaklandraider Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
    007 when is the last time a MLB was drafted in the top top 5?

    ^^^^^^^^
    Long time.

    Great MIKES out of college are not valued enough and that is a mistake. Look at Ray Lewis, Urlacher, Seau, and Willis…any one of those players should have been taken within the top 5 in a draft ahead of some of the busts that were taken. Urlacher, Willis and Seau were taken in the top 10 basically.

  • DKnight007

    157.eastoaklandraider Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
    DKnight007 Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
    147.eastoaklandraider Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
    Manti is the next Brian Malaluga from.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Nah….Te’o is not an alcoholic or drunk azz partier like Maualuga is.

    Plus Te’o has much better lateral movement and is a leader.
    ————-

    What MLB have you seen in the top 5?

    ^^^^^^^
    Urlacher was the closet I believe…

  • http://ggeden.blogspot.com/ GG

    Said it before. Reggie is very good at finding ILB s in the mid and later rounds.

    Dont mock draft a lb early unless it’s a 3-4 olb pass rusher

  • DKnight007

    155.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
    Actually u do pick a MLB now days cuz the cap for rookie contracts.

    U pick a MLB if u really need a leader of ur defense like the Raiders do

    ^^^^^^^^
    Exactly!

    Then again, we haev Omar Gaitehr to man down that MIKE/ILB spot for the next 10 years right? Sheesh.

  • eastoaklandraider

    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
    Actually u do pick a MLB now days cuz the cap for rookie contracts.

    U pick a MLB if u really need a leader of ur defense like the Raiders do
    ————–

    Teo doesnt have as much worth as Moore,Star,LT from a&m,Mingo, even Jarvis jones has more value than Teo at least he saks the qb and forces fumbles.

  • The_Judge37

    omoran Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
    Raider ( since 1967)★
    Stay with Tyvon Branch – Allen is working on the Defense for next Year.
    Fire Knapp -Seymour – McClain- Tarver!
    Bring -The good news — Al Saunder ! Before years is Out !
    ——–

    I don’t agree with fire the staff, but keep the guy who oversees them. They’ve all done a terrible job pretty equally

  • eastoaklandraider

    DKnight007 Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
    157.eastoaklandraider Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
    DKnight007 Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
    147.eastoaklandraider Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
    Manti is the next Brian Malaluga from.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Nah….Te’o is not an alcoholic or drunk azz partier like Maualuga is.

    Plus Te’o has much better lateral movement and is a leader.
    ————-

    What MLB have you seen in the top 5?

    ^^^^^^^
    Urlacher was the closet I believe…
    ————-

    Nope not even in the top 10.

  • omoran

    Raider(since 1967) ★
    ESPN -John Clayton said : this is not a Good Year to pic a
    Qb. Its a poor class this year. !

  • eastoaklandraider

    My bad Urlacher drafted 9th

  • The_Judge37

    eastoaklandraider Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
    Actually u do pick a MLB now days cuz the cap for rookie contracts.

    U pick a MLB if u really need a leader of ur defense like the Raiders do
    ————–

    Teo doesnt have as much worth as Moore,Star,LT from a&m,Mingo, even Jarvis jones has more value than Teo at least he saks the qb and forces fumbles.
    ——–

    We need to stop the run. It’s not like we play with the lead to where a Pass rusher would be a luxury. I know we need some kinda rush but we can find stop gap 3rd down guys in FA. But a Franchise MLB is something we need desperatly

  • Gdog

    eastoaklandraider Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:05 pm

    DKnight007 Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
    147.eastoaklandraider Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
    Manti is the next Brian Malaluga from.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Nah….Te’o is not an alcoholic or drunk azz partier like Maualuga is.

    Plus Te’o has much better lateral movement and is a leader.
    ————-

    What MLB have you seen in the top 5?

    >>>>

    Does Von Miller count?

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    ESPN has announced that Rob Parker will be allowed to return to the air after a 30-day suspension for questioning whether Redskins quarterback Robert Griffin III is authentically black because, among other things, Griffin has a white fiancee.

    Marcia Keegan, a Vice President of Production for ESPN, released a statement announcing the duration of Parker’s suspension and vowing that ESPN will take greater care in the way its debates on the show Parker appears on, First Take, are presented going forward.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/20/rob-parker-will-return-to-espn-after-30-day-ban-for-rg3-remarks/

  • eastoaklandraider

    The_Judge37 Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
    eastoaklandraider Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
    Actually u do pick a MLB now days cuz the cap for rookie contracts.

    U pick a MLB if u really need a leader of ur defense like the Raiders do
    ————–

    Teo doesnt have as much worth as Moore,Star,LT from a&m,Mingo, even Jarvis jones has more value than Teo at least he saks the qb and forces fumbles.
    ——–

    We need to stop the run. It’s not like we play with the lead to where a Pass rusher would be a luxury. I know we need some kinda rush but we can find stop gap 3rd down guys in FA. But a Franchise MLB is something we need desperatly
    —————-

    No, it is much harder to find a pass rusher than a mlb and it would be cheaper and a better idea imo to find a mlb in FA. You dont get the opportunity to draft great pass rushers often must take the chance when you get it.

  • eastoaklandraider

    Gdog Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
    eastoaklandraider Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:05 pm

    DKnight007 Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
    147.eastoaklandraider Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
    Manti is the next Brian Malaluga from.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Nah….Te’o is not an alcoholic or drunk azz partier like Maualuga is.

    Plus Te’o has much better lateral movement and is a leader.
    ————-

    What MLB have you seen in the top 5?

    >>>>

    Does Von Miller count?
    ————

    is he a MLB?

  • DKnight007

    160.GG Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
    Said it before. Reggie is very good at finding ILB s in the mid and later rounds.

    Dont mock draft a lb early unless it’s a 3-4 olb pass rusher

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Thats how it usually is unfortunately. That’s how bust picks are made.

    McK should trade down 8 spots….get a 2nd rounder and snatch Te’o and he would be the foundation of a rebuilt defense.

  • DKnight007

    170.eastoaklandraider Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
    The_Judge37 Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
    eastoaklandraider Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
    Actually u do pick a MLB now days cuz the cap for rookie contracts.

    U pick a MLB if u really need a leader of ur defense like the Raiders do
    ————–

    Teo doesnt have as much worth as Moore,Star,LT from a&m,Mingo, even Jarvis jones has more value than Teo at least he saks the qb and forces fumbles.
    ——–

    We need to stop the run. It’s not like we play with the lead to where a Pass rusher would be a luxury. I know we need some kinda rush but we can find stop gap 3rd down guys in FA. But a Franchise MLB is something we need desperatly
    —————-

    No, it is much harder to find a pass rusher than a mlb and it would be cheaper and a better idea imo to find a mlb in FA. You dont get the opportunity to draft great pass rushers often must take the chance when you get it.

    ^^^^^^^^^
    What are the chances of Raiders actually picking up a decent MIKE/ILB in FA??

    The Raiders won’t be major players in FA. No money.

  • eastoaklandraider

    DKnight007 Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
    157.eastoaklandraider Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
    DKnight007 Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
    147.eastoaklandraider Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
    Manti is the next Brian Malaluga from.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Nah….Te’o is not an alcoholic or drunk azz partier like Maualuga is.

    Plus Te’o has much better lateral movement and is a leader.
    ————-

    What MLB have you seen in the top 5?

    ^^^^^^^
    Urlacher was the closet I believe…
    ————-

    drafted 9th Romac drafted 8th, that 2 in the past how many years? you just dont draft mlb’s that high.

  • omoran

    Raider (since1967)★
    Reggie is awful Quiet! Huh. Something might be cooking in his kitchen .Hope is Knapp !
    Can you guys Imagine — If Reggie gives a press Conference and says -Al Saunder is in.
    He will be the next Raiders Off Coordinator and coach !
    It ‘ll be the Best gift he can give us!

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    Teo doesnt have as much worth as Moore,Star,LT from a&m,Mingo, even Jarvis jones has more value than Teo at least he saks the qb and forces fumbles.”

    —————————-

    Ya to you he doesnt. But to REGGIE and DA he has more value then probaly anyone else in the draft.

    DA was basically screaming for a LEADER on this defense in yesterdays article. Especially after everything he went through with McClain they realize more then ever they do.

    MLB is like the center of ur defense. Someone to be vocal change calls, signals etc. Reggie even said he is waiting for a defensive leader to step up.

    Corky said its TEO or trade down. Guess ppl in the building have already gave him hints its TEO or nothing

  • DKnight007

    167.The_Judge37 Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
    eastoaklandraider Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
    Actually u do pick a MLB now days cuz the cap for rookie contracts.

    U pick a MLB if u really need a leader of ur defense like the Raiders do
    ————–

    Teo doesnt have as much worth as Moore,Star,LT from a&m,Mingo, even Jarvis jones has more value than Teo at least he saks the qb and forces fumbles.
    ——–

    We need to stop the run. It’s not like we play with the lead to where a Pass rusher would be a luxury. I know we need some kinda rush but we can find stop gap 3rd down guys in FA. But a Franchise MLB is something we need desperatly

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Yep. Need a legit QB and leader of the defense that the D players will rally around.

    They are plenty of pass rushing DE’s/OLB’s types in this upcoming draft. Not alot of legit MIKE/ILB’s like Te’o.

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    McK should trade down 8 spots….get a 2nd rounder and snatch Te’o and he would be the foundation of a rebuilt defense.
    ————————-
    Calling any college players a NFL foundation player, is pure speculation

  • DKnight007

    176.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
    Teo doesnt have as much worth as Moore,Star,LT from a&m,Mingo, even Jarvis jones has more value than Teo at least he saks the qb and forces fumbles.”

    —————————-

    Ya to you he doesnt. But to REGGIE and DA he has more value then probaly anyone else in the draft.

    DA was basically screaming for a LEADER on this defense in yesterdays article. Especially after everything he went through with McClain they realize more then ever they do.

    MLB is like the center of ur defense. Someone to be vocal change calls, signals etc. Reggie even said he is waiting for a defensive leader to step up.

    Corky said its TEO or trade down. Guess ppl in the building have already gave him hints its TEO or nothing

    ^^^^^^^^^
    That’s why I keep saying…a QB if the defense!

  • eastoaklandraider

    DKnight007 Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
    170.eastoaklandraider Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
    The_Judge37 Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
    eastoaklandraider Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
    Actually u do pick a MLB now days cuz the cap for rookie contracts.

    U pick a MLB if u really need a leader of ur defense like the Raiders do
    ————–

    Teo doesnt have as much worth as Moore,Star,LT from a&m,Mingo, even Jarvis jones has more value than Teo at least he saks the qb and forces fumbles.
    ——–

    We need to stop the run. It’s not like we play with the lead to where a Pass rusher would be a luxury. I know we need some kinda rush but we can find stop gap 3rd down guys in FA. But a Franchise MLB is something we need desperatly
    —————-

    No, it is much harder to find a pass rusher than a mlb and it would be cheaper and a better idea imo to find a mlb in FA. You dont get the opportunity to draft great pass rushers often must take the chance when you get it.

    ^^^^^^^^^
    What are the chances of Raiders actually picking up a decent MIKE/ILB in FA??

    The Raiders won’t be major players in FA. No money.
    ————-

    we’ve always had cap problem with Al and still made moves every year the key is backloading the contract.

  • DKnight007

    Raiders need to take Te’o or trade down….sounds good to me.

  • DKnight007

    180.eastoaklandraider Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
    DKnight007 Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
    170.eastoaklandraider Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
    The_Judge37 Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
    eastoaklandraider Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
    Actually u do pick a MLB now days cuz the cap for rookie contracts.

    U pick a MLB if u really need a leader of ur defense like the Raiders do
    ————–

    Teo doesnt have as much worth as Moore,Star,LT from a&m,Mingo, even Jarvis jones has more value than Teo at least he saks the qb and forces fumbles.
    ——–

    We need to stop the run. It’s not like we play with the lead to where a Pass rusher would be a luxury. I know we need some kinda rush but we can find stop gap 3rd down guys in FA. But a Franchise MLB is something we need desperatly
    —————-

    No, it is much harder to find a pass rusher than a mlb and it would be cheaper and a better idea imo to find a mlb in FA. You dont get the opportunity to draft great pass rushers often must take the chance when you get it.

    ^^^^^^^^^
    What are the chances of Raiders actually picking up a decent MIKE/ILB in FA??

    The Raiders won’t be major players in FA. No money.
    ————-

    we’ve always had cap problem with Al and still made moves every year the key is backloading the contract.

    ^^^^^^^^
    True, but McK is still not going to overspend…especially after the mistake of signing Brisiel.

  • MiamiRaider78

    Fire the East Coast!

    5 wins 26 losses

    There’s the culprit, regardless of the coaches, scheme or players.

    Fire the East Coast!

  • DKnight007

    178.KoolKell Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
    McK should trade down 8 spots….get a 2nd rounder and snatch Te’o and he would be the foundation of a rebuilt defense.
    ————————-
    Calling any college players a NFL foundation player, is pure speculation

    ^^^^^^^^^^
    Uhh..well if you want to get technical the whole draft process is based on projection and speculation isn’t it?

    Come on now son.

  • http://ggeden.blogspot.com/ GG

    Your earlier post knight highlighted the bust rate of DT early.
    The imperative thing is the front seven needs a lot of work.
    We need a bulwark nt a ray Lewis type of ILB and probably two olb/de pass rushers that are every down players.
    So whatever order we get all that I’m not fussed as long as we do.
    As well as switching to a 3-4 Bryant Houston at end and have a platoon of lbs on the roster like about 8.

    Only problem is we also need a center and a lt and a rt.

    So we need to offload some value players to rebuild. Dmac Palmer shaughnessy branch huff dhb brisiel etc.

    Resign leinart keep Pryor around for another camp see if he can progress. Draft qb in 2014 once the foundation is built of a top d and an above average OL

  • The_Civilian_James_Trapp

    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
    Teo doesnt have as much worth as Moore,Star,LT from a&m,Mingo, even Jarvis jones has more value than Teo at least he saks the qb and forces fumbles.”

    —————————-

    Ya to you he doesnt. But to REGGIE and DA he has more value then probaly anyone else in the draft.

    DA was basically screaming for a LEADER on this defense in yesterdays article. Especially after everything he went through with McClain they realize more then ever they do.

    MLB is like the center of ur defense. Someone to be vocal change calls, signals etc. Reggie even said he is waiting for a defensive leader to step up.

    Corky said its TEO or trade down. Guess ppl in the building have already gave him hints its TEO or nothing

    ===============

    They are retarded then. They would pass up a blue-chip LT and stud DE & DL for idiot. I’ll be starting reading draft reports for 2014 then. A fu**kig MLB when we have given up some of the worst passing statistics not to mention Aldon Smith has more sacks than the Raiders.

  • Gdog

    eastoaklandraider Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:19 pm

    Gdog Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
    eastoaklandraider Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:05 pm

    DKnight007 Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
    147.eastoaklandraider Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
    Manti is the next Brian Malaluga from.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Nah….Te’o is not an alcoholic or drunk azz partier like Maualuga is.

    Plus Te’o has much better lateral movement and is a leader.
    ————-

    What MLB have you seen in the top 5?

    >>>>

    Does Von Miller count?
    ————

    is he a MLB?

    >>>>>

    Are OLB’s more important than MLB’s or something?

    Or did you just make up that caveat to force a point?

  • eastoaklandraider

    Team leaders are overrated, the coach should be the team leader. Show me someone who makes millions of dollars and still needs extra motivation from a teammate and Ill show you someone I dont want on my team.

  • The_Civilian_James_Trapp

    Are OLB’s more important than MLB’s or something?

    Or did you just make up that caveat to force a point?

    ===========

    If they are a pass rusher yes. Who do you think anybody in this league would rather have, Urlacher-Lewis or the James Harrison’s, Aldon Smith’s, Von Miller’s of the world?

  • The_Civilian_James_Trapp

    Eastoaklandraider Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
    Team leaders are overrated, the coach should be the team leader. Show me someone who makes millions of dollars and still needs extra motivation from a teammate and Ill show you someone I dont want on my team.

    ==============

    That rah-rah crap means nothing at this level

    BEST PICK: Linebacker Rolando McClain: A physical force and a natural leader on a defense that has ranked 29th, 31st and 31st over the past three years. A common sense pick at No. 8 overall to address a major weakness.

    http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/profilexnews.php?pyid=70847&draftyear=2010&genpos=ILB

  • eastoaklandraider

    Gdog Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
    eastoaklandraider Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:19 pm

    Gdog Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
    eastoaklandraider Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:05 pm

    DKnight007 Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
    147.eastoaklandraider Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
    Manti is the next Brian Malaluga from.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Nah….Te’o is not an alcoholic or drunk azz partier like Maualuga is.

    Plus Te’o has much better lateral movement and is a leader.
    ————-

    What MLB have you seen in the top 5?

    >>>>

    Does Von Miller count?
    ————

    is he a MLB?

    >>>>>

    Are OLB’s more important than MLB’s or something?

    Or did you just make up that caveat to force a point?
    ————-

    In a 3-4 D yes they are, they are basically just pass rushers, see Lamar woodley, James Harrison, Clay Matthews they are all worth more tha Mlb’s. Von Miller falls under that category.

  • DKnight007

    188.eastoaklandraider Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
    Team leaders are overrated, the coach should be the team leader. Show me someone who makes millions of dollars and still needs extra motivation from a teammate and Ill show you someone I dont want on my team.

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Hmm…team leaders types Ray Ray Lewis, Urlacher, Brady, P Manning, L Fletcher, Willis, Seau, Brees, Vilma are overrated?

    I have to take a look at that.

    Granted players do need a solid coaching staff to lead them.

  • The_Judge37

    No, it is much harder to find a pass rusher than a mlb and it would be cheaper and a better idea imo to find a mlb in FA. You dont get the opportunity to draft great pass rushers often must take the chance when you get it.
    ——-

    We’ve found pass rusher’s in the past offseason’s like Burgess, Clemons and Wimbley.

    Guys like Danny Clark are what stop gap MLB’s look like.

    Plus we can find one trik pony Rushers like Trevor Scott late in the draft. Not long term solutions but we’re not going to fill all holes in this draft.

  • DKnight007

    191.eastoaklandraider Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
    Gdog Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
    eastoaklandraider Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:19 pm

    Gdog Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
    eastoaklandraider Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:05 pm

    DKnight007 Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
    147.eastoaklandraider Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
    Manti is the next Brian Malaluga from.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Nah….Te’o is not an alcoholic or drunk azz partier like Maualuga is.

    Plus Te’o has much better lateral movement and is a leader.
    ————-

    What MLB have you seen in the top 5?

    >>>>

    Does Von Miller count?
    ————

    is he a MLB?

    >>>>>

    Are OLB’s more important than MLB’s or something?

    Or did you just make up that caveat to force a point?
    ————-

    In a 3-4 D yes they are, they are basically just pass rushers, see Lamar woodley, James Harrison, Clay Matthews they are all worth more tha Mlb’s. Von Miller falls under that category.

    ^^^^^^^^
    So you think the Niners don’t need Patrick Willis anymore?

  • Gdog

    Here’s a video of the “coaches tape” of most of McFaddens long runs and TD runs from last year I made: netbinders.net/upload/Mcf_2011.mp4 You can decide for yourself if there is better blocking, better scheme, or he was just running faster or hitting the holes better. You prolly need high speed internet to download.

  • The_Civilian_James_Trapp

    The_Judge37 Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
    No, it is much harder to find a pass rusher than a mlb and it would be cheaper and a better idea imo to find a mlb in FA. You dont get the opportunity to draft great pass rushers often must take the chance when you get it.
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    We’ve found pass rusher’s in the past offseason’s like Burgess, Clemons and Wimbley.

    Guys like Danny Clark are what stop gap MLB’s look like.

    Plus we can find one trik pony Rushers like Trevor Scott late in the draft. Not long term solutions but we’re not going to fill all holes in this draft.

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    If you go and look at the top 5 picks, for the last 20 years, how many times does a DE or pass-rushing LB, CB, DT go before a MLB? After QB, I’d say teams value either a LT or a pass-rushing DE/LB #2

  • The_Civilian_James_Trapp

    ^^^^^^^^
    So you think the Niners don’t need Patrick Willis anymore?

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    WHo you think they want more? him or Aldon Smith?

  • eastoaklandraider

    The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
    Eastoaklandraider Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
    Team leaders are overrated, the coach should be the team leader. Show me someone who makes millions of dollars and still needs extra motivation from a teammate and Ill show you someone I dont want on my team.

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    That rah-rah crap means nothing at this level

    BEST PICK: Linebacker Rolando McClain: A physical force and a natural leader on a defense that has ranked 29th, 31st and 31st over the past three years. A common sense pick at No. 8 overall to address a major weakness.

    http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/profilexnews.php?pyid=70847&draftyear=2010&genpos=ILB
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    Exactly, all that schit Ray lewis does or even Drew brees may last for a few plays but guess what after that adrenaline wears off and you get into the game you better know how to make plays speeches be damned.

  • DKnight007

    190.The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
    Eastoaklandraider Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
    Team leaders are overrated, the coach should be the team leader. Show me someone who makes millions of dollars and still needs extra motivation from a teammate and Ill show you someone I dont want on my team.

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    That rah-rah crap means nothing at this level

    BEST PICK: Linebacker Rolando McClain: A physical force and a natural leader on a defense that has ranked 29th, 31st and 31st over the past three years. A common sense pick at No. 8 overall to address a major weakness.

    http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/profilexnews.php?pyid=70847&draftyear=2010&genpos=ILB

    ^^^^^^^^
    Actually some were questioning RoMacs coverage ability and whether or not he can be a MIKE in a base 4-3 after playing in the 3-4 in college.

    Raiders didn’t run a 3-4 while RoMac was here to utilize his skills.

  • eastoaklandraider

    The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
    December 20th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
    ^^^^^^^^
    So you think the Niners don’t need Patrick Willis anymore?

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    WHo you think they want more? him or Aldon Smith?
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    Thank you.