Seymour out for Sunday’s game, says he’s still ‘elite’ player
By Steve Corkran
Friday, December 21st, 2012 at 1:17 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Defensive tackle Richard Seymour won’t play Sunday against the Carolina Panthers. It’s possible that he has played his final game of the 2012 season, but he still has a desire to play beyond this season.
Seymour said Friday that the high hamstring injury he suffered against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers on Nov. 4 has caused a lot of frustration and disappointment because he isn’t able to help on the field.
“I definitely wanted to gut it out,” Seymour said, “but it isn’t a situation where you can, you can’t gut a hamstring out. It isn’t like you can tape a shoulder up or tape an elbow, or one of those deals. A hamstring, it ain’t like you can say, OK. It’s totally different from that standpoint.
“But one of the most disappointing things for me is, being a team leader and not being out there with my teammates. That’s the most disappointing part because I bleed silver and black.”
Along those lines, Seymour was asked if he wants to re-sign with the Raiders after this season. He is an unrestricted free agent after this season and free to negotiate with any of the league’s 32 teams.
“In terms of my future, we’re still in the season and, I guess, when that time comes, we’ll cross that bridge then,” Seymour said. “Like I said, I bleed silver and black. From that standpoint, we’ll see what happens when that time comes. For now, I’ll continue to lead and support my teammates.”
Seymour is in his 12th NFL season. In his prime, he commanded double-teams and oftentimes dominated at the line of scrimmage, freeing up teammates in one-on-one situations and making those around him better.
Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie had the option of cutting Seymour this past offseason and sending him on his way with $7.5 million guaranteed. Instead, McKenzie and Seymour worked out a restructured contract that kept Seymour in the mix.
Now, McKenzie has tape of the eight games Seymour played, as well as that from Seymour’s first 11 seasons, to gauge whether it’s worth bringing back Seymour.
Seymour is convinced that he still has the ability to play at a high level.
“When healthy, I still play at an elite level,” Seymour said. “That’s one of the things that, the film speaks for itself.”
– Allen said Phillip Adams is healthy and ready to go for Sunday’s game. That means Adams will start at cornerback and also return punts.
Adams suffered his second concussion of the season last Sunday. Yet, he passed all the league-mandated tests for players that suffer concussions and has been cleared to play.
– The Raiders have 25 players that are potential free agents after this season. Seventeen of those are unrestricted free agents, meaning they can sign anywhere they please, short of the Raiders placing the franchise tag on one of them.
Allen said he and his coaching staff are paying close attention to how their players perform down the stretch, at a time when some players are prone to going through the motions, given the playoffs no longer are part of the equation.
“Oh, yeah, we’re looking at that,” Allen said. “That’s part of the evaluation process. I’ve already stated that, we’ve got to look at guys as we move forward to see what we’re going to do in the future and, obviously, we’ve got two more games to get an opportunity to look at them.”
Beyond that, Allen said, he expects the same kind of effort from his players every game, regardless the situation.
“My hope is that they’re playing football because they love playing the game of football, and they enjoy doing what they do for a living, and that’s just who they are,” Allen said. “They’re not playing necessarily for contracts, they’re playing because that’s what’s deep down inside their soul. That’s what I see, but I can’t speak for everybody.”
– Strong safety Tyvon Branch is at less than 100 percent heading into the Panthers game. A pain-killing shot helped him make it through the Chiefs game last Sunday.
Allen said he expects Branch to play this Sunday, just knowing how tough and dedicated Branch has been all season.
“He had to take a shot to help him make it through the game,” Allen said, “and anytime you do that, you’re a little more sore when you come back. He’s a warrior, though. He’s a battler. He’s a fighter. He’s going to be out there if he can.”
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December 21st, 2012 at 1:18 pm
WTF?!?!?
i wonder how many dirty secrets are in the nfl. Why did seau and belcher and carson blow their brains out?
Why are so many of these guys perverts and weirdos and alcoholics wife beaters and drug addicts?
I suggest that many of them have suffered from sexual and physical abuse, and have been effeminized through mis education.
Once exposed to the trappings of pro sports it is a potent mix of sex drugs and living in a disney world bubble.
We have to come out of this foolishness
THIS IS NOT OUR CULTURE AND THIS IT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU IMITATE ANOTHER MANS CULTURE
http://www.cbn.com/700club/features/sports_roy_simmons.aspx
December 21st, 2012 at 1:20 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 1:17 pm
Like I said If Tom Cable and Hue Jax as OC were with us for three years.. we would have been already deep into the playoffs.
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I think I agree..
December 21st, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Question is do we take Seymour back on a cheap deal..
If he really bleeds silver n black…
Have to say yea.
December 21st, 2012 at 1:24 pm
Yeah, and I’m an elite poster.
December 21st, 2012 at 1:26 pm
So Howie Long was on the first hour of the Dan Patrick show this morning, and he said that he actually coached against Russell Wilson in Virginia when Wilson was in high school. Was very impressed with him, even back then.
December 21st, 2012 at 1:28 pm
Keep Bryant, Shaughnessy, and Myers if we can. I like to keep Wheeler too, but I think he will have mote offers after a good season (not like last year).
December 21st, 2012 at 1:29 pm
More*
December 21st, 2012 at 1:30 pm
Raider O Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 1:28 pm
Keep Bryant, Shaughnessy, and Myers if we can. I like to keep Wheeler too, but I think he will have mote offers after a good season (not like last year).
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Yea, I can see the Saints or Falcons throwing money at him..
December 21st, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Our goal should be to have a group of LBs that can rotate in and out of 4-3 & 3-4 looks.
Not sure Wheeler fits that.
December 21st, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Needs:
OG
RT
DE
CB
LB (MLB/ OLB depends if we keep McClain and resign Wheeler)
DT/ NT
TE (Myers is a FA)
December 21st, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Anyone else think Wheeler is what would happen if Mike Mitchell played LB?..
Could be just me.
December 21st, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Raider O Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Needs:
OG
RT
DE
CB
LB (MLB/ OLB depends if we keep McClain and resign Wheeler)
DT/ NT
TE (Myers is a FA)
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Brisiel finishing the year strong, and the presence of Bergstrom makes me think OG isnt that much of a need.
Solid list though.
December 21st, 2012 at 1:34 pm
too bad DA doesnt coach like he loves to compete…
December 21st, 2012 at 1:35 pm
My turn.
Needs [In order of importance]
DE
OLB
RT
MLB
DT/NT
CB
TE
December 21st, 2012 at 1:35 pm
Giving players pain killing drugs to help them play through meaningless games is crazy.
December 21st, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Seymour says ‘leader’ a lot.
Usually you dont have to repeatedly say what you are.. you just are it..
Me thinks he doesnt lead much.
December 21st, 2012 at 1:38 pm
RE: Tyvon> Manny Pacquiao is a “WARRIOR, a BATTLER, and a FIGHTER”. Look what it got him? KNOCKED OUT!
RE: 25 FA> CUT THEM ALL!!!
RE: Seymor>“When healthy, I still play at an elite level,” Seymour said. “That’s one of the things that, the film speaks for itself.”
HANG UP YOUR CLEATS YOUR CAREER HAS BEEN OVER! The FILM will also show you making some BONEHEAD penalties that cost us POINTS and GAMES! GTFOH! BELICHEK WAS RIGHT ABOUT YOU: “YESTERDAYS NEWSPAPER” Al was senile when he picked you! Reggie made the wrong call, AGAIN!
RE: CABLE/HUE JACK. You forgot the coup that HJ masterminded to take over Cable’s HC job. I watched HC from the sidelines every game. Lobbying the players before the inevitable came. Dysfunctional Organization!!! Everything around you is evolving and you are still wearing a black leather jacket and jump suits!
PALMER> There are two types of people in this world: WINNERS AND losers. Circle the one you think Palmer is. Mr. “unforced errors in critical situations”!
December 21st, 2012 at 1:38 pm
And how to address those needs:
DE – Dion Jordan, Corey Lemonier
OLB – Dion Jordan, Corey Lemonier
RT – Kyle Long
MLB – Chase Blackburn
DT/NT – Justin Bannan, Ricky Jean-Francois
CB – Mike Jenkins
TE – Re-sign Brandon Myers
December 21st, 2012 at 1:39 pm
And how to address those needs:
DE – Dion Jordan, Corey Lemonier
OLB – Dion Jordan, Corey Lemonier
RT – Kyle Long
MLB – Chase Blackburn
DT/NT – Justin Bannan, Ricky Jean-Francois
CB – Mike Jenkins, Tyrann Mathieu
TE – Re-sign Brandon Myers
December 21st, 2012 at 1:39 pm
No it wasnt stevie for for Hiram .. hiram was out with an injury in preseason.
btw i was just gonna say HIRAM Eugene was not a good tackler but he could defend the pass. That was another good DB for the RAiders in 2010
December 21st, 2012 at 1:39 pm
Also, Jermichael Finley is a FA… just saying.
December 21st, 2012 at 1:40 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 1:39 pm
No it wasnt stevie for for Hiram .. hiram was out with an injury in preseason.
btw i was just gonna say HIRAM Eugene was not a good tackler but he could defend the pass. That was another good DB for the RAiders in 2010
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Yea. I think it just came down to Hue wanting Giordano..
Eugene was out of the picture already..
December 21st, 2012 at 1:41 pm
Philip Adams and Ross need more playing time, and they are not UFAs.
We should draft a pass rusher and CB because that’s more cost effective than signing good FAs.
Trade down:
1- CB Milliner (assuming the top 3 pass rushers are gone)
2- DE/ OL Dion Jordan (if he is available), OLB A Barr, OLB C Thomas
3- DE Brandon Jenkins
4- BPA and I think that will be RB Michael Dyer or the short/ slow/ troubled CB from LSU.
December 21st, 2012 at 1:42 pm
Seymour does not bleed Silver & Black.
He’s angling for new contract.
December 21st, 2012 at 1:42 pm
@DennisAllensVisor
Do we need another TE, even if Meyers resigns for the ZBS? Like the Texans use? Dressan and Daniels, Daniels and Graham?
December 21st, 2012 at 1:43 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 1:42 pm
@DennisAllensVisor
Do we need another TE, even if Meyers resigns for the ZBS? Like the Texans use? Dressan and Daniels, Daniels and Graham?
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I was expecting a boat load of 2 TE sets, but I guess Knapp just didnt trust Ausberry..
But yea another TE is needed… I threw Finley out there..
December 21st, 2012 at 1:44 pm
Hell yes we need a te
December 21st, 2012 at 1:44 pm
And please nobody chime in and say Reece can play TE.. LOL.
December 21st, 2012 at 1:45 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 1:35 pm
My turn.
Needs [In order of importance]
DE
OLB
RT
MLB
DT/NT
CB
TE
$$$$$$$$$$$
Good list, I understand your point on the 26 YO rookie, but CB should be 2nd IMO. Adams, Chekwa, and Ross?! God I hope not.
December 21st, 2012 at 1:47 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 1:20 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 1:17 pm
Like I said If Tom Cable and Hue Jax as OC were with us for three years.. we would have been already deep into the playoffs.
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I think I agree..
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The problem with Jackson is the league caught up to him after about 5 games in as a play caller. When you can’t score second half points you aren’t a very good playcaller. And like I said, Seattle right now is annihilating their opponents dropping 50 spots on them. Remember when that happened around here? That was Cable.
December 21st, 2012 at 1:48 pm
Raider O Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 1:45 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 1:35 pm
My turn.
Needs [In order of importance]
DE
OLB
RT
MLB
DT/NT
CB
TE
$$$$$$$$$$$
Good list, I understand your point on the 26 YO rookie, but CB should be 2nd IMO. Adams, Chekwa, and Ross?! God I hope not.
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you left off the most important psotion that needs a major overhaul
QB!!!!
December 21st, 2012 at 1:48 pm
I have a feeling Reggie is gonna get us a decent TE whether it be Draft, trade, or Non Drafted FA.. aka the next streater
December 21st, 2012 at 1:48 pm
Kiwi_Blade Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 1:42 pm
Seymour does not bleed Silver & Black.
He’s angling for new contract.
$$$$$$$$
Exactly.
December 21st, 2012 at 1:49 pm
W/O A trade down..
1 Bjorn Werner [DE]
3- Kyle Long [RT]
4- James Morris [LB]
December 21st, 2012 at 1:50 pm
You guys suck just like DA and his staff does!
December 21st, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Trade down and pick up a CB like Xavier Rhodes. We need a young CB with acutal 1st round type talent to groom
December 21st, 2012 at 1:50 pm
reggies te is on gb practice squad…
December 21st, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Too many need to fix in one off season IMO. Don’t forget we need to add depth and improve other positions.
December 21st, 2012 at 1:51 pm
30.Seymour Bush Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 1:47 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 1:20 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 1:17 pm
Like I said If Tom Cable and Hue Jax as OC were with us for three years.. we would have been already deep into the playoffs.
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I think I agree..
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The problem with Jackson is the league caught up to him after about 5 games in as a play caller. When you can’t score second half points you aren’t a very good playcaller. And like I said, Seattle right now is annihilating their opponents dropping 50 spots on them. Remember when that happened around here? That was Cable.
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It also helps if you have at least a decent defense that makes stops just every now and then. Ya know?
December 21st, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Raider O Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 1:45 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 1:35 pm
My turn.
Needs [In order of importance]
DE
OLB
RT
MLB
DT/NT
CB
TE
$$$$$$$$$$$
Good list, I understand your point on the 26 YO rookie, but CB should be 2nd IMO. Adams, Chekwa, and Ross?! God I hope not.
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Adams, Ross, Hanson & Chekwa..
With Mike Jenkins [FA] & Tyrann Mathieu…
More than enough
December 21st, 2012 at 1:53 pm
It also helps if you have at least a decent defense that makes stops just every now and then. Ya know?
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I would agree but I don’t know how much a decent defense standing on the sidelines helps you from going three and out all second half.
December 21st, 2012 at 1:53 pm
James Morris or Kevin Reddick in the 4th would be solid…
December 21st, 2012 at 1:54 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 1:17 pm
Like I said If Tom Cable and Hue Jax as OC were with us for three years.. we would have been already deep into the playoffs.
^^^^^^^^
Hey, somebody says something with real meaning.
December 21st, 2012 at 1:54 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Trade down and pick up a CB like Xavier Rhodes. We need a young CB with acutal 1st round type talent to groom
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We need lots of stuff, corner is going to be a priority.
December 21st, 2012 at 1:55 pm
Without a trade:
1- DE D Moore
3- RT K Long
4- CB Leon McFadden (Go Aztecs)
December 21st, 2012 at 1:56 pm
42.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 1:53 pm
James Morris or Kevin Reddick in the 4th would be solid…
^^^^^^^^
Wear a hat instead of a visor buddy.
You only get a pass wearing a visor if your a good head coach.
December 21st, 2012 at 1:56 pm
1 Bjorn Werner [DE]
3 Kyle Long [RT]
4 James Morris/Kevin Reddick [LB]
5 Nickell Robey [CB]
Starting to like this draft better than the trade down..
December 21st, 2012 at 1:57 pm
Dont forget we actually need a Ballhawk type saftey.. someone who can actually play the middle/ deep ball
December 21st, 2012 at 1:57 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 1:56 pm
42.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 1:53 pm
James Morris or Kevin Reddick in the 4th would be solid…
^^^^^^^^
Wear a hat instead of a visor buddy.
You only get a pass wearing a visor if your a good head coach.
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You’ll be suspended from the blog for 2 weeks with that attitude junior.
December 21st, 2012 at 1:58 pm
45.Raider O Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 1:55 pm
Without a trade:
1- DE D Moore
3- RT K Long
4- CB Leon McFadden (Go Aztecs)
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With all these needs….McK is really going to need to trade down and get more picks.
It would also be nice if he has some actual forward thinking and can acquire a 2nd or a 3rd rounder from some team in the 2014 draft.
December 21st, 2012 at 1:58 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 1:57 pm
Dont forget we actually need a Ballhawk type saftey.. someone who can actually play the middle/ deep ball
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Getting rid of Giordano is like signing an All Pro.
December 21st, 2012 at 2:00 pm
Trade down with Rams:
Acquire the Redskins 1st, Rams 2nd & Rams 3rd in 2014
1- Dion Jordan [DE/OLB]
2- Corey Lemonier [DE/OLB]
3- Kyle Long [RT]
4- Tyrann Mathieu [DB/KR]
December 21st, 2012 at 2:01 pm
49.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 1:57 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 1:56 pm
42.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 1:53 pm
James Morris or Kevin Reddick in the 4th would be solid…
^^^^^^^^
Wear a hat instead of a visor buddy.
You only get a pass wearing a visor if your a good head coach.
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You’ll be suspended from the blog for 2 weeks with that attitude junior.
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hahahaaaaaaaaa! DennisAllensVisor…..Ugh
December 21st, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Carson Palmer to the Cardinals for a 4th rounder.
DMC to the Packers for a conditional 4th in 2014.
Tommy Kelly to the Patriots for a 5th rounder.
December 21st, 2012 at 2:06 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Raider O Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 1:45 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 1:35 pm
My turn.
Needs [In order of importance]
DE
OLB
RT
MLB
DT/NT
CB
TE
$$$$$$$$$$$
Good list, I understand your point on the 26 YO rookie, but CB should be 2nd IMO. Adams, Chekwa, and Ross?! God I hope not.
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Adams, Ross, Hanson & Chekwa..
With Mike Jenkins [FA] & Tyrann Mathieu…
More than enough
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
-Hanson is a FA and he is a NB.
-Mike Jenkins is a FA next year, and we don’t know if we wil sign him. Like I said, it’s cheaper to draft a good CB than to sign one in FA. Btw, pass on M Jenkins.
-Adams, Ross, & Chekwa are unproven and didnt do enough to prove themselves as future starters.
December 21st, 2012 at 2:06 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Raider O Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 1:45 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 1:35 pm
My turn.
Needs [In order of importance]
DE
OLB
RT
MLB
DT/NT
CB
TE
$$$$$$$$$$$
Good list, I understand your point on the 26 YO rookie, but CB should be 2nd IMO. Adams, Chekwa, and Ross?! God I hope not.
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Adams, Ross, Hanson & Chekwa..
With Mike Jenkins [FA] & Tyrann Mathieu…
More than enough
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
-Hanson is a FA and he is a NB.
-Mike Jenkins is a FA next year, and we don’t know if we wil sign him. Like I said, it’s cheaper to draft a good CB than to sign one in FA. Btw, pass on M Jenkins.
-Adams, Ross, & Chekwa are unproven and didnt do enough to prove themselves as future starters.
December 21st, 2012 at 2:06 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Raider O Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 1:45 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 1:35 pm
My turn.
Needs [In order of importance]
DE
OLB
RT
MLB
DT/NT
CB
TE
$$$$$$$$$$$
Good list, I understand your point on the 26 YO rookie, but CB should be 2nd IMO. Adams, Chekwa, and Ross?! God I hope not.
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Adams, Ross, Hanson & Chekwa..
With Mike Jenkins [FA] & Tyrann Mathieu…
More than enough
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
-Hanson is a FA and he is a NB.
-Mike Jenkins is a FA next year, and we don’t know if we wil sign him. Like I said, it’s cheaper to draft a good CB than to sign one in FA. Btw, pass on M Jenkins.
-Adams, Ross, & Chekwa are unproven and didnt do enough to prove themselves as future starters.
December 21st, 2012 at 2:06 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Raider O Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 1:45 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 1:35 pm
My turn.
Needs [In order of importance]
DE
OLB
RT
MLB
DT/NT
CB
TE
$$$$$$$$$$$
Good list, I understand your point on the 26 YO rookie, but CB should be 2nd IMO. Adams, Chekwa, and Ross?! God I hope not.
—-
Adams, Ross, Hanson & Chekwa..
With Mike Jenkins [FA] & Tyrann Mathieu…
More than enough
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
-Hanson is a FA and he is a NB.
-Mike Jenkins is a FA next year, and we don’t know if we wil sign him. Like I said, it’s cheaper to draft a good CB than to sign one in FA. Btw, pass on M Jenkins.
-Adams, Ross, & Chekwa are unproven and didnt do enough to prove themselves as future starters.
December 21st, 2012 at 2:07 pm
Ugh…
December 21st, 2012 at 2:09 pm
No matter how you cut it, CBs arent as important as the pass rush.
We have been drafting CBs for 30 years now LOL..
December 21st, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Remember that famous photo of the boa constrictor in Florida, the one who swallowed an oversized deer?
If the Raiders lose big this weekend, I predict an onslaught of Snark so great the walls of this blog will explode.
December 21st, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Wow. lol
Sorry.
December 21st, 2012 at 2:15 pm
DaVisor, perhaps you might explain your “wondering” if Wheeler can play in a 3-4. You keep seeming to yak just to yak. Have I got that right?
December 21st, 2012 at 2:16 pm
There is a glitch in the matrix!
December 21st, 2012 at 2:19 pm
mctroll like to yak…
December 21st, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Papertiger I proclaim you elite on account of #4
Nice one
December 21st, 2012 at 2:20 pm
All these needs… hmmm if only someone had thought of doing a firesale before the trade deadline maybe we’d have extra picks…. oh wait..
December 21st, 2012 at 2:20 pm
r00der Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 2:15 pm
DaVisor, perhaps you might explain your “wondering” if Wheeler can play in a 3-4. You keep seeming to yak just to yak. Have I got that right?
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Umm..
Which part is your question there bubba?
Thats a statment followed by you asking if your statement is right….
December 21st, 2012 at 2:21 pm
Al is the Raiders, I see you trollin… get your troll on player.
December 21st, 2012 at 2:24 pm
28.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 1:44 pm
And please nobody chime in and say Reece can play TE.. LOL.
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What? Reece is a awesome TE…on Madden.
December 21st, 2012 at 2:24 pm
DAV what? wait why are you responding to a comment about someone else? im talking about that sh!t for brains mctroll20…
December 21st, 2012 at 2:25 pm
Its not a hard concept to grasp.
Can Wheeler play in a 3-4, Im wondering…
See how easy that was!..
December 21st, 2012 at 2:26 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 2:24 pm
28.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 1:44 pm
And please nobody chime in and say Reece can play TE.. LOL.
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What? Reece is a awesome TE…on Madden.
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This is true.
And w/Pryor at QB im unbeatable.
The Raiders have been the best Madden team for years.
December 21st, 2012 at 2:26 pm
54.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Tommy Kelly to the Patriots for a 5th rounder.
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You don’t think he would want to go to the Bears?
Tommy Kelly playing next to Julius Peppers…on paper?
December 21st, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Although I quit playing Madden since they took out the Franchise mode.
December 21st, 2012 at 2:28 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 2:26 pm
54.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Tommy Kelly to the Patriots for a 5th rounder.
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You don’t think he would want to go to the Bears?
Tommy Kelly playing next to Julius Peppers…on paper?
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Well, Belichik said TK could be the best DL in the NFL a few years back so im playing into the possibility he would want him…
December 21st, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Raider (since 1967)★
Can we get Kyle Long and Jake Long playing for Us ?
How about Mantai Teo and Jarvis Miller
Mantai Teo and Millerner Cb Alabama ?
December 21st, 2012 at 2:29 pm
4.papertiger418 Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 1:24 pm
Yeah, and I’m an elite poster.
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I believe that a heck alot easier than Seymour being an “elite” player.
“Elite” players make an impact…period.
The only thing that tugs at my Raiders heart strings is when he says he ‘bleeds silver and black’, but then again it’s been proven time and again he’ll say anything to make the fans happy.
Just a very small sampling of Seymour’s b.s statements the past yr.:
-DA has the “it” factor.
-Hue Jackson was a great coach.
-We are a top 5 defense.
-I believe we are a playoff team.
And the GRAND PRIZE WINNER: “I AM AN ELITE PLAYER”.
December 21st, 2012 at 2:37 pm
You answered the question, DAvisor. Yakking just to yak, minus substance. Wheeler could obviously play, well, in a 3-4.
December 21st, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Raider (since 1967)★
When are we suppose to see the first moves in Raiders rooster . Free agency or trades or signings ?
When ?
After the year or before the year is over ?
YES DOCTOR FIRE KNAPP, EVERYONE IS CALLING FOR IT
December 21st, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Wheeler in a 3/4… idk.. maybe.. hes awfully small
December 21st, 2012 at 2:42 pm
Later nation.
December 21st, 2012 at 2:44 pm
Raiders haven’t won an early east coast game since the Gradkowski game.
Any of you actually not betting the nest egg on Carolina lol
December 21st, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Raider ( since1967)★
Reggie – is there a Clause in the Raider contracts that we can
Deduct from -SEYMOUR , or any player salary for Games not Played?
December 21st, 2012 at 2:54 pm
That’s the most disappointing part because I bleed silver and black.”
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F off Dick, no you don’t
December 21st, 2012 at 2:54 pm
Raider (since1967)★
We had or have to many hurt players. Nothing new !
YEAH – RIGHT ! WE better Fire that Strengh and Endurance Coach ! Hah ….
December 21st, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Just a very small sampling of Seymour’s b.s statements the past yr.:
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How about “Matt Shanaughessy is the best RDE in the NFL”?
Dude is worse than Badhdad Bob!!!!
December 21st, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Was listening to Matt Millen on the Radio this morning. He was going on about the great job the 49er coaches were doing. Then he said, and I’m paraphrasing ” My pet peeve with coaches is not to teach what you know, but to teach what they know”
Sounded like a shot to me, at our coaches.
December 21st, 2012 at 2:59 pm
Wheeler, prototype NFL LB, 6′2″, 240…and loves to play. He sticks his nose in there and does his job. Actually, don’t know why we are discussing this. Anyone really not see this guy as a keeper, 4-3 or 3-4?
December 21st, 2012 at 3:00 pm
right at DA and Knapp!
December 21st, 2012 at 3:02 pm
88, I agree. These guys are technicians, players “fail” because they don’t fit THEIR system. The whole team? Then fellas, maybe its time to coach. You know, bring the best out of what you got.
December 21st, 2012 at 3:06 pm
Didn’t Matt Millen preside over the only 0-16 team in NFL history?
He wouldn’t know what a good coaching hire was if it punched him in his crooked nose.
December 21st, 2012 at 3:09 pm
let him be “elite” somewhere else. only thing he would accomplish is taking playing time away from a stud rookie or younger, quicker player. if he takes a pay cut and becomes a situational/rotational player then fine.
December 21st, 2012 at 3:12 pm
Wheeler might be ok in a 3/4.. but he cant really take on ots.. he’d have to set the edge.. so it might not work as well as playing in a 4/3.
December 21st, 2012 at 3:12 pm
Has Seymour played enough to be a Team leader?…. Not in my book….
December 21st, 2012 at 3:13 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 3:06 pm
Didn’t Matt Millen preside over the only 0-16 team in NFL history?
He wouldn’t know what a good coaching hire was if it punched him in his crooked nose.
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Cheap shot from the Spinmeister
December 21st, 2012 at 3:21 pm
well we know he was a better lb than mckenzie…i bet he wins more games id put in gge same situation as reggie mccheap….
December 21st, 2012 at 3:21 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Marks hair Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 12:48 pm
Yeah.. i started chanting stevie brown when i wanted a turnover.. the kid had some obvious mojo.. i think that was an al cut..
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I thought about that.
Would Al have cut a young DB with speed in favor of a slow white guy?…
Doesnt fit Al’s character..
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Stevie commands the secondary of a World Championship Team in only his third year in the league. He is playing very very well. That was a Hue cut. Davis drafted him, Cable promoted him to the active roster from the practice squad and Jackson didn’t think he had what it takes. Which is why Jackson is now coaching the Cincy DB’s and they are faltering down the stretch.
December 21st, 2012 at 3:23 pm
#96
Yep Knapp for instance has win a ring on the niners staff or has been a qb coach on the Texans 2001 playoff season……. doesn’t mean he would know what good coaching is if it bent him over and rammed itself hard into him.
Well put it this way…. more truthfully…… they’ve all been around good and great as well as bad coaches but when people do things themselves it doesn’t necessarily mean they will be good at it.
Reggie and Allen true of them too. To date.
December 21st, 2012 at 3:30 pm
Raider (since 1967)
Pryor must prove himself that he is the best. He must show that he is the Man and he is the “Brady ! At last he will be getting his chance. The Door of his Cage will now be Open and he will have the chance to show Al and the Raider fans of his mission.The Last Deciple must be better than good in the Lions den and patient. One wrong move can cause a lost .But one Good move can make Al ’s both tremble in Oakland. This is his War is up to him to win it or lose it ! Like Eastwood will say. -
Aim at the Heart – Ramon . … Aim at the heart !!!
December 21st, 2012 at 3:31 pm
why do people say the league caught up to hue jacksons offense when we scored 27 in week 15 and 26 in week 17? I mean he’s gone and who gives a schit but…
December 21st, 2012 at 3:33 pm
@ DAvisor
The new Career Mode for madden 13 is basically the franchise mode.
And I would stomp the hell out of you in madden. Ps3 online ID: raiderallday31 if you want to find out. You may carry on.
December 21st, 2012 at 3:41 pm
Omoran Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 3:30 pm
Raider (since 1967)
Pryor must prove himself that he is the best. He must show that he is the Man and he is the “Brady ! At last he will be getting his chance. The Door of his Cage will now be Open and he will have the chance to show Al and the Raider fans of his mission.The Last Deciple must be better than good in the Lions den and patient. One wrong move can cause a lost .But one Good move can make Al ’s both tremble in Oakland. This is his War is up to him to win it or lose it ! Like Eastwood will say. -
Aim at the Heart – Ramon . … Aim at the heart !!!
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In other words…. PUT YOUR PANTS!!!!
December 21st, 2012 at 3:43 pm
How does a team prepare for Cam Newton, the first player in NFL history with 30-plus touchdown passes (39) and 20-plus touchdown runs (21) in his first two seasons?
Well, to hear Raiders players tell it, you pop in third-string quarterback Terrelle Pryor in practice and voila.
“Terrelle is the closest guy to Cam,” running back Mike Goodson said.
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/raiders/article/Pryor-helps-Raiders-prepare-for-Newton-4136866.php#ixzz2FjVfy5wX
December 21st, 2012 at 3:44 pm
thats what reggie tells mctroll20…pull you pant up!
December 21st, 2012 at 3:45 pm
On ps3 my name is killer-ontheroad
Add me anyone and if we’re online whenever guys can hit me up for a game.
I will say I used to be really good on m8 thru to m11, used to play very often. I have hardly time anymore but I will give it my best and I don’t whinge if people resort to cheap tactics. I never care about that as its fun trying to scheme against all types of stuff people do.
December 21st, 2012 at 3:47 pm
Goodson played with Newton in Carolina last year and is with Pryor now in Oakland. And Goodson is not the only one saying how helpful Pryor has been simulating Newton in practice this week.
“It’s been good,” offensive coordinator Greg Knapp said. “You don’t have to coach it up as much on defense” because the players can see it on the practice field.
Knapp said Pryor has done a good job of telling defensive players what he’s seeing and what they’re doing well.
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/raiders/article/Pryor-helps-Raiders-prepare-for-Newton-4136866.php#ixzz2FjWYEr4A
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Did you hear that dumbass?
December 21st, 2012 at 3:54 pm
@GG
Madden: I hate when people try and do stupid @$$ crap, like go for it on 4th and 25 from their 10 yard line and want a friendly quit. I won’t give it to them if they are playing like an @$$. Usually then they jump offsides until they are kicked for grieving…
December 21st, 2012 at 3:56 pm
I’ll send u a message when I get out of work GG
December 21st, 2012 at 4:01 pm
#108
Yeah I don’t play like that never have. But I don’t care if people play like that. All the more satisfaction when beating them.
But yeah add me fir a good game. Over the next couple weeks I’m on holidays and will be online more often.
What we should do is set up a community for ibabuzz people to join. That way we can have everyone join and visible to each other. Can have a little bragging rights.
Someone set it up and post the community name here for ppl to search. Just make it ibabuzz.
My email is gg.eden@hotmail.com
December 21st, 2012 at 4:04 pm
When I get back home in around 8 hrs I’ll search for it. If no ones done it I’ll create it myself and post details here. Name and password etc.
Just everyone interested email or post in this blog a key phrase like ps3 so I can search for all your ids and send invites.
December 21st, 2012 at 4:20 pm
139.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Dwight Howard is no David Lee
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MAN!
I was called names in here last year for saying Lee was an All Star!!!
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So who were you last year?
December 21st, 2012 at 4:21 pm
“When I get a lot of reps and I get comfortable, I will have success. I really believe that,” Pryor said.
so like i and other have said HE ISNT GETTING REPS IN PRACTICE AS THE THIRD STRING SO THE CLUELESS STAFF HAS NO IDEA WHAT HE CAN AND CANT DO!! THEY JUST DISCOVERED IT WHILE HE WAS IMITATING CAM FOR THE SCOUT TEAM!!’
STOP WITH AL THE “THEY SEE HIM EVERYDAY IN PRACTICE” BULL SHIDD!!!
It’s been good,” offensive coordinator Greg Knapp said. “You don’t have to coach it up as much on defense” because the players can see it on the practice field.
Knapp said Pryor has done a good job of telling defensive players what he’s seeing and what they’re doing well.
“I am just trying to teach them a little bit,” Pryor said. “If they can key on things that I tell them they are doing great, they’ll be good. But if he gets to the edge, that’s when problems happen.
Newton “is going to make plays. We just have to minimize it, and I am trying to help as much as I can.”
WHAT IS NOT TO LIKE ABOUT THIS KID?
Knapp and da looked at practice and said”wow this is pretty good” why didnt we think of this before?
Knapp said Pryor, who got in Sunday’s win over Kansas City for three plays, will play this Sunday on third downs and “maybe in the red zone – try to create a different look for the defense.”
only 14 games too late!! this woint save yourj ob knapp you should have done this since day one of the preseason.
Carson has been so bad on third down and in the red zone that he is now being replaced in that capacity
I cant wait for a new coach and the new year open a real qb competition.
i want pryor to beat the fugg out of carson and and him back to the couch!!!
December 21st, 2012 at 4:22 pm
420 and i got purple thats actually PURPLE
December 21st, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Da visor is mc20 I think. Not sure.
December 21st, 2012 at 4:24 pm
@GG
I’m down, ill hit up ur email and shoot you a friend request on ps3
December 21st, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 4:21 pm
“When I get a lot of reps and I get comfortable, I will have success. I really believe that,” Pryor said.
so like i and other have said HE ISNT GETTING REPS IN PRACTICE AS THE THIRD STRING SO THE CLUELESS STAFF HAS NO IDEA WHAT HE CAN AND CANT DO!! THEY JUST DISCOVERED IT WHILE HE WAS IMITATING CAM FOR THE SCOUT TEAM!!’
STOP WITH AL THE “THEY SEE HIM EVERYDAY IN PRACTICE” BULL SHIDD!!!
It’s been good,” offensive coordinator Greg Knapp said. “You don’t have to coach it up as much on defense” because the players can see it on the practice field.
Knapp said Pryor has done a good job of telling defensive players what he’s seeing and what they’re doing well.
“I am just trying to teach them a little bit,” Pryor said. “If they can key on things that I tell them they are doing great, they’ll be good. But if he gets to the edge, that’s when problems happen.
Newton “is going to make plays. We just have to minimize it, and I am trying to help as much as I can.”
WHAT IS NOT TO LIKE ABOUT THIS KID?
Knapp and da looked at practice and said”wow this is pretty good” why didnt we think of this before?
Knapp said Pryor, who got in Sunday’s win over Kansas City for three plays, will play this Sunday on third downs and “maybe in the red zone – try to create a different look for the defense.”
only 14 games too late!! this woint save yourj ob knapp you should have done this since day one of the preseason.
Carson has been so bad on third down and in the red zone that he is now being replaced in that capacity
I cant wait for a new coach and the new year open a real qb competition.
i want pryor to beat the fugg out of carson and and him back to the couch!!!
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May be all moot.
Tyler Bray entering draft…could easily be drafted in 3rd round
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/21/tennessee-quarterback-tyler-bray-enters-2013-nfl-draft
December 21st, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Now, McKenzie has tape of the eight games Seymour played, as well as that from Seymour’s first 11 seasons, to gauge whether it’s worth bringing back Seymour.
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All Reggie needs is to pop in the tape of the last 6 games. That’s the real Seymour.
December 21st, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Seymour is convinced that he still has the ability to play at a high level.
“When healthy, I still play at an elite level,” Seymour said. “That’s one of the things that, the film speaks for itself.”
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DMAC was at his locker pissed when he heard Seymour telling this to Cork. “They not gonna take me seriously if I say it now. Gonna roll their eyes and say they heard it somewhere before.”
December 21st, 2012 at 4:34 pm
Not hatin on Palmer, but, with him gone Cincy is a new team, heading upward.
December 21st, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Use Seymour’s money on a CB
December 21st, 2012 at 4:39 pm
2013 Free Agents
OT Khalif Barnes – Let him go
DT Desmond Bryant – Re-sign
G Cooper Carlisle – Let him retire
DE Andre Carter – Re-sign
LB Omar Gaither – Re-sign
S Matt Giordano -Let him go
RB Mike Goodson – Re-sign
WR Derek Hagan – Re-sign
CB Joselio Hanson – Let him go
P Shane Lechler – Let him go
QB Matt Leinart – Re-sign
S Mike Mitchell – Re-sign
TE Brandon Myers – Re-sign
DT Richard Seymour – Let him go
DE Matt Shaughnessy – Let him go
CB Shawntae Spencer – Le him go
LB Philip Wheeler – Re-sign
Players eligible for restricted free agency:
CB Phillip Adams -Re-sign
Exclusive-rights free agents:
LB Kaelin Burnett – Re-sign
WR Duke Calhoun – Re-sign
CB Coye Francies – Let him go
OT Zach Hurd – Re-sign
C/G Alex Parsons – re-sign
CB Brandian Ross – Re-sign
RB Jeremy Stewart – Re-sign
December 21st, 2012 at 4:40 pm
16.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Seymour says ‘leader’ a lot.
Usually you dont have to repeatedly say what you are.. you just are it..
Me thinks he doesnt lead much.
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He leads in a mob boss type of way. You know, stay at home and give a guy a name on a sheet of paper or an address.
December 21st, 2012 at 4:44 pm
Hanson, wheeler, Stewart, Goodson are the key ones to retain.
December 21st, 2012 at 4:47 pm
Bryant absolute resign.
December 21st, 2012 at 4:49 pm
I think Richard Seymour has been a great pickup for the Raiders. He turned Tommy Kelly around, and leads a physical DLine since he’s been here.
December 21st, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Tyler bray is awful
pryor is much better
so is geno smith and ej manual
December 21st, 2012 at 4:50 pm
We need to re-sign our concussion doctors. Has anyone failed a concussion test for us this season?
December 21st, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Its interesting how no one wants Shaughnessy when so many were talking about him as a difference maker.
December 21st, 2012 at 4:51 pm
@DennisAllensVisor…..u can play franchise on Madden 13….
December 21st, 2012 at 4:52 pm
I’m sorry Dick, but you’re fired.
December 21st, 2012 at 4:52 pm
126.KoolKell Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 4:49 pm
I think Richard Seymour has been a great pickup for the Raiders. He turned Tommy Kelly around, and leads a physical DLine since he’s been here.
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So we gave up the #17 pick in the draft for a D-Line Coach. Nice!
December 21st, 2012 at 4:52 pm
8RaiderReign8 Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Its interesting how no one wants Shaughnessy when so many were talking about him as a difference maker.
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Yep.
December 21st, 2012 at 4:52 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 4:49 pm
I think Richard Seymour has been a great pickup for the Raiders. He turned Tommy Kelly around, and leads a physical DLine since he’s been here.
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He was a good signing and has done more good than bad, but he’s just too expensive.
December 21st, 2012 at 4:53 pm
127.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Tyler bray is awful
pryor is much better
so is geno smith and ej manual
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So is Vince Evans and Willie Totten.
December 21st, 2012 at 4:53 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 4:52 pm
8RaiderReign8 Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Its interesting how no one wants Shaughnessy when so many were talking about him as a difference maker.
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Yep.
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He is still a good run stuffer and should be kept for depth reasons.
December 21st, 2012 at 4:55 pm
Oh… and if I forget to say it…
Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!!!!
December 21st, 2012 at 4:55 pm
504 Raider Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 4:52 pm
126.KoolKell Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 4:49 pm
I think Richard Seymour has been a great pickup for the Raiders. He turned Tommy Kelly around, and leads a physical DLine since he’s been here.
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So we gave up the #17 pick in the draft for a D-Line Coach. Nice!
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A DLine leader, whose led a very physical DLine since he’s been here. Usually one of our leaders in sacks, and knocks the hell out of people.
17 pick?????? Wtf, the Raiders don’t do anything with draft choices anyway, but ruin them.
December 21st, 2012 at 4:56 pm
GG…its him all the way.
December 21st, 2012 at 4:58 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 4:55 pm
504 Raider Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 4:52 pm
126.KoolKell Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 4:49 pm
I think Richard Seymour has been a great pickup for the Raiders. He turned Tommy Kelly around, and leads a physical DLine since he’s been here.
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So we gave up the #17 pick in the draft for a D-Line Coach. Nice!
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A DLine leader, whose led a very physical DLine since he’s been here. Usually one of our leaders in sacks, and knocks the hell out of people.
17 pick?????? Wtf, the Raiders don’t do anything with draft choices anyway, but ruin them.
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New day. No longer a ninety year old man, who can barely leave his room, calling the shots. Draft day will no longer be a day we sit at cringe at every pick.
December 21st, 2012 at 4:59 pm
G Cooper Carlisle – Let him retire
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Didn’t he resign for vet minimum? Isn’t he worth Vet-Minimum for a backup that can play both RG and LG? Thought Bergstrom was going to take the starting gig away from him. Not saying he should be resigned as a starter…
December 21st, 2012 at 5:01 pm
With almost half the team up for FA how can people say Reggie hasn’t been doing his job.
December 21st, 2012 at 5:06 pm
8RaiderReign8 Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 5:01 pm
With almost half the team up for FA how can people say Reggie hasn’t been doing his job.
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Hasn’t even had a chance to do the job that needs to be done yet. That’s what’s so comical about the “fire Reggie” march that some of these nubs are pushing.
December 21st, 2012 at 5:12 pm
Mr. Seymour, the Raider Nation has very much appreciated your loyalty and dedication. Merry Christmas. Happy New Year. Good luck to you and your family moving forward. God Bless.
December 21st, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Here is the list of Raiders prospective free agents in 2013.
Players eligible for unrestricted free agency:
OT Khalif Barnes- Gone
DT Desmond Bryant- try and resign
G Cooper Carlisle- Gone
DE Andre Carter- try and resign on the cheap
LB Omar Gaither- may resign for depth
S Matt Giordano- resign for depth if anything
RB Mike Goodson- McK will want to resign
WR Derek Hagan- resign for depth
CB Joselio Hanson- resign
P Shane Lechler- Gone
QB Matt Leinart- who knows and who cares?
S Mike Mitchell- Gone
TE Brandon Myers- resign
DT Richard Seymour- Gone
DE Matt Shaughnessy- try and resign
CB Shawntae Spencer- resign for depth
LB Philip Wheeler- try and resign
December 21st, 2012 at 5:15 pm
Raider (since 1967)★
Who do you want for Offensive coach ( Co)
Norv Turner or Al Sunders ?
December 21st, 2012 at 5:16 pm
God….I can’t stand this Raider coaching staff!
They brought nothing to the table.
December 21st, 2012 at 5:17 pm
im out peace
December 21st, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Carolina 24
Raiders 10
December 21st, 2012 at 5:18 pm
Btw Pryor will return to compete again because he’s done everything asked of him in this new regime and his work ethic and attitude that this regime has asked for Pryor has shown. He’s basically schooled and tailored by this regime. A whole new qb from the draft will be an unknown in these particular regards. Pryor unique talent is greater than any qb in his draft and then you add the work ethic they’re looking for that Pryor has focused on.
December 21st, 2012 at 5:18 pm
omoran Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 5:15 pm
Raider (since 1967)★
Who do you want for Offensive coach ( Co)
Norv Turner or Al Sunders ?
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C) NONE OF THE ABOVE
December 21st, 2012 at 5:19 pm
74.DutchRaider77 Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 2:26 pm
54.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Tommy Kelly to the Patriots for a 5th rounder.
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You don’t think he would want to go to the Bears?
Tommy Kelly playing next to Julius Peppers…on paper?
^^^^^^^^
I think Kelly can be had for a 4th rounder
December 21st, 2012 at 5:20 pm
I think Reggie did pretty good brining in contributors with what he had to work with:
Wheeler
Burris
Adams
Streater
.?
December 21st, 2012 at 5:21 pm
I like Pryor. I hate missdick. Who is with me?
December 21st, 2012 at 5:22 pm
Would love to send Harvey Updyke over to Seymour’s house in Georgia.
December 21st, 2012 at 5:28 pm
I like Pryor. I hate missdick. Who is with me?
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lmao
December 21st, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Why doesn’t anyone like Kelly? He has been a Pro Bowl alternate 2 years running.
Coaches and players must think he is pretty damn good?
December 21st, 2012 at 5:31 pm
I like Kelly. Great Interviews
December 21st, 2012 at 5:38 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 3:47 pm
Goodson played with Newton in Carolina last year and is with Pryor now in Oakland. And Goodson is not the only one saying how helpful Pryor has been simulating Newton in practice this week.
“It’s been good,” offensive coordinator Greg Knapp said. “You don’t have to coach it up as much on defense” because the players can see it on the practice field.
Knapp said Pryor has done a good job of telling defensive players what he’s seeing and what they’re doing well.
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/raiders/article/Pryor-helps-Raiders-prepare-for-Newton-4136866.php#ixzz2FjWYEr4A
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Did you hear that dumbass?
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You posted a link to the same article above this. And quoted the article then. Why do it twice? Do you think slowly?
December 21st, 2012 at 5:48 pm
Kelly is a union man. Doesn’t care about winning just getting by on union scale.
December 21st, 2012 at 5:49 pm
dr_robert Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 5:21 pm
I like Pryor. I hate missdick. Who is with me?
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I don’t know anything about proyr. Except he’s 3rd string.
And who cares about missdick? Why do you?
December 21st, 2012 at 5:54 pm
8RaiderReign8 Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 5:01 pm
With almost half the team up for FA how can people say Reggie hasn’t been doing his job.
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Basically idiots. Impossible for a GM to step in, and in that first year make a huge impact. People have no idea what a GMs job is.
so manuy sheep on this board. One person says the coaches suck, and the sheep start posting the same. Same with Reg. idiots like priest whine about Reg and others think they have to do the same.
sheep.
December 21st, 2012 at 5:58 pm
Los Raida Locos Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 5:49 pm
dr_robert Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 5:21 pm
I like Pryor. I hate missdick. Who is with me?
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I don’t know anything about proyr. Except he’s 3rd string.
And who cares about missdick? Why do you?
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i like to make fun of him.
December 21st, 2012 at 6:06 pm
Of course Seymour still feels like an elite
Player….on the days he did practice, he went up against knapp’s version of the zbs…that would make any defensive lineman feel elite.
December 21st, 2012 at 6:06 pm
Wow, I feel so ’special’ and ‘honored’ someone hijacked my handle. Just when I thought it was getting better to come back in. Keep up the good work.
Los Raida Locos does not call blogsters names or demeans them. However, he truly feels this coaching staff is pure dog poo. Agree or did agree, don’t matter to me. Mystic is OK with me. So is Mc20. Kool Kell is alright too. Why people feel the need to bang on him is stupid. Bang on the coaching staff. They suck balls.
Hey Dr Robert, you a Seattle Mariner fan?
December 21st, 2012 at 6:08 pm
Is knapp a free agent after the season is over? If he is, Reggie better not re-sign him. No way.
December 21st, 2012 at 6:08 pm
i like to make fun of him.’
He usually says really stupid things, designed to get a reaction, and when he gets it, he then posts over and over.
You spread his message a lot more than he does, because you can’t stop talking about him.
Can’t see where you made fun of him. I do see how you repost his comments, over and over, atually helping him out.
December 21st, 2012 at 6:09 pm
dr_robert Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 5:58 pm
Los Raida Locos Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 5:49 pm
dr_robert Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 5:21 pm
I like Pryor. I hate missdick. Who is with me?
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I don’t know anything about proyr. Except he’s 3rd string.
And who cares about missdick? Why do you?
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i like to make fun of him.
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Why? Does it make you feel more like a doctor? Just askin…
December 21st, 2012 at 6:10 pm
I’m me. And I’m not him. Don’t put words in my mouth because then I can’t talk. Ojale’
December 21st, 2012 at 6:11 pm
Hey??? Bendejo..wat up? You using my name, fool.
December 21st, 2012 at 6:12 pm
tghat’s it man. Im changin my name to Los Raida Guapo. This is wack, jack.
December 21st, 2012 at 6:14 pm
I’m turning over a new leaf, even before new years. Why wait. I want to be kind to all men. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Even me. I’ll respect yours, and until I have walked a mile in your shoes, you all are my brothers. Peace and love to all in this glorious time of year.
December 21st, 2012 at 6:15 pm
Mucho frio. Need a hot brazillian to come give me a lappy.
December 21st, 2012 at 6:16 pm
dr_robert Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 6:14 pm
I’m turning over a new leaf, even before new years. Why wait. I want to be kind to all men. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Even me. I’ll respect yours, and until I have walked a mile in your shoes, you all are my brothers. Peace and love to all in this glorious time of year.
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Wow man. U see that? he turned into a woman right in front of our eyes. How’s that squat thing working?
December 21st, 2012 at 6:16 pm
Los Raida Locos Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 6:10 pm
I’m me. And I’m not him. Don’t put words in my mouth because then I can’t talk. Ojale’
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It’s not a problem my brother. If it ain’t financial, it ain’t a problem. We will be fine with the Raiders no matter what they do. In Big Reg and DA we trust.
December 21st, 2012 at 6:18 pm
Hey, don’t take it personal, Robert but that being my brother thing?
My neighbors just forgave me and we cool.
If I tell them you’re my brother, they probably gonna mess with my dromedary, again. And kick me out again.
Sorry bro, you ain’t my bro, ya know?
December 21st, 2012 at 6:20 pm
Los Raida Locos Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 5:54 pm
8RaiderReign8 Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 5:01 pm
With almost half the team up for FA how can people say Reggie hasn’t been doing his job.
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Basically idiots. Impossible for a GM to step in, and in that first year make a huge impact. People have no idea what a GMs job is.
so manuy sheep on this board. One person says the coaches suck, and the sheep start posting the same. Same with Reg. idiots like priest whine about Reg and others think they have to do the same.
sheep.
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Tj is the truest die hard Raider we have. No need to bang on him. Rag on DA and knapp, or are you a knapp bung hole surfer?
December 21st, 2012 at 6:21 pm
Friday night, where the girls asses are tight, and make me randy all night.
Later gringoes, I’m gettin down wit the round.
December 21st, 2012 at 6:23 pm
Los Raida Locos Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 6:20 pm
Los Raida Locos Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 5:54 pm
8RaiderReign8 Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 5:01 pm
With almost half the team up for FA how can people say Reggie hasn’t been doing his job.
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Basically idiots. Impossible for a GM to step in, and in that first year make a huge impact. People have no idea what a GMs job is.
so manuy sheep on this board. One person says the coaches suck, and the sheep start posting the same. Same with Reg. idiots like priest whine about Reg and others think they have to do the same.
sheep.
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Tj is the truest die hard Raider we have. No need to bang on him. Rag on DA and knapp, or are you a knapp bung hole surfer?
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TJ is a punk and a bich, and now, ese’, I’m gonna teach you some respect EPA style.
December 21st, 2012 at 6:25 pm
Peace be with you all my brothers. We will unite and support or Oakland Raiders. Peace out.
December 21st, 2012 at 6:29 pm
Wow. I just developed a real nasty itch in here. This blog has a social disease my doctor just can’t put his finger on. Even with gloves on. It’s weird, I know. But I contracted just from reading this blog.
December 21st, 2012 at 6:34 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 5:19 pm
74.DutchRaider77 Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 2:26 pm
54.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Tommy Kelly to the Patriots for a 5th rounder.
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You don’t think he would want to go to the Bears?
Tommy Kelly playing next to Julius Peppers…on paper?
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I think Kelly can be had for a 4th rounder
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Maybe the Patriots are more functional and have had multiple ex-Raiders go over there – even during the Gruden years.
December 21st, 2012 at 6:35 pm
Clark Griswald Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 6:29 pm
Wow. I just developed a real nasty itch in here. This blog has a social disease my doctor just can’t put his finger on. Even with gloves on. It’s weird, I know. But I contracted just from reading this blog.
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Maybe you should stop reading it. That way it wont spread.
December 21st, 2012 at 6:36 pm
Dr_robert Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 6:14 pm
I’m turning over a new leaf, even before new years. Why wait. I want to be kind to all men. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Even me. I’ll respect yours, and until I have walked a mile in your shoes, you all are my brothers. Peace and love to all in this glorious time of year.
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LOL. some tool hijacking y name and having a conversation with himself.
i could actually be down with the above sentiment but why would some coawrd feel the need to post it under my name? doesn’t even make sense.
December 21st, 2012 at 6:38 pm
ESETERIK78 Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 5:18 pm
omoran Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 5:15 pm
Raider (since 1967)★
Who do you want for Offensive coach ( Co)
Norv Turner or Al Sunders ?
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C) NONE OF THE ABOVE
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They’ve been to Super Bowls (on offensive staffs at Dallas, St. Louis – and Norv has been to an AFC championship with the Chargers, losing to the Patriots)
then again, their QBs were Rivers, Aikman and Warner. A far cry from Palmer and definitely way far from T.Pryor.
December 21st, 2012 at 6:44 pm
fyi, i get flack for supposedly not allowing others to have their opinion. not true. ur welcome to have ur (wrong) opinion and i can tell u why ur wrong. i attack racists, anti-raiders, knitwit trolls, and troublemakers.
basically these idiots:
missdick
priest
sullivan
beech
fangs
jokefoshow
and any of their alter-egos.
kell’s an idiot to but i pretty much leave him alone. always claiming i’m a crossposter without saying who i post as.
December 21st, 2012 at 6:46 pm
Pretty amazing that an “elite” player can be UPGRADED with an undrafted kid from Harvard at about 4% the cost.
Weird how that works.
December 21st, 2012 at 6:49 pm
How low can Big Rich get? Bleeds the Silver and Black?
I guess just about everyone is bleeding out in OakTown. Big Rich should be ashamed of himself, it’s bad enough he has been a genuine fraud ever since he came here, stealing Mr. Davis and the Raider Nation blind. A totally overrated slacker who basically has done as he pleased, check-cashing, and showing up for half a season.
During the pre-season, I proposed an over-under of the number of games he would actually line up for when he was excused from practice. I say line up because he mostly didn’t show up to play, much less lead anyone. Suspiciously, he hurt his hammie when Doug Martin ran all over the Raiders defense.
I don’t know what the cap hit would be if he’s cut, but I believe his salary would accelerate if kept in the 2013 roster. Another high-stakes test for the ZarMac.
December 21st, 2012 at 6:53 pm
seymour is actually a good player. his injury/absence has been huge this season. he is just one of several good players who, for some reason, always catch wreck here, like kelly, branch, and carlisle.
December 21st, 2012 at 6:55 pm
Dr_robert Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 6:44 pm
fyi, i get flack for supposedly not allowing others to have their opinion. not true. ur welcome to have ur (wrong) opinion and i can tell u why ur wrong. i attack racists, anti-raiders, knitwit trolls, and troublemakers.
basically these idiots:
missdick
priest
sullivan
beech
fangs
jokefoshow
and any of their alter-egos.
kell’s an idiot to but i pretty much leave him alone. always claiming i’m a crossposter without saying who i post as.
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Get a life dumbass. You gossipy little btchs.
December 21st, 2012 at 6:58 pm
he is just one of several good players who, for some reason, always catch wreck here,
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Maybe because he is one of the highest paid athletes in America, and thinks that motivating his teammates still makes him elite.
Bone-headed penalties and chicken-crap ejections to boot.
December 21st, 2012 at 6:59 pm
seymour has had some dumb moments and he’s not what he used to be, but he’s still pretty good. doubt he’ll be back tough.
December 21st, 2012 at 7:03 pm
Players eligible for unrestricted free agency:
OT Khalif Barnes–will likely be back
DT Desmond Bryant–will be back
G Cooper Carlisle–likely replaced by bergstrom
DE Andre Carter–might actually be back. looking better lately.
LB Omar Gaither–not likely
S Matt Giordano–iffy
RB Mike Goodson–probable
WR Derek Hagan–iffy
CB Joselio Hanson–probable. pretty good nickel.
P Shane Lechler–iffy
QB Matt Leinart–probable
S Mike Mitchell–maybe
TE Brandon Myers–yes
DT Richard Seymour–iffy
DE Matt Shaughnessy–probable
CB Shawntae Spencer–no
LB Philip Wheeler–yes
Players eligible for restricted free agency:
CB Phillip Adams–yes
Exclusive-rights free agents:
LB Kaelin Burnett–iffy
WR Duke Calhoun–maybe
CB Coye Francies–maybe
OT Zach Hurd–iffy
C/G Alex Parsons–iffy
CB Brandian Ross–yes
RB Jeremy Stewart–yes
December 21st, 2012 at 7:06 pm
if we drafted Star we could go to the 3-4 with Seymour(if we sign him) at one DE and Houston at the other. I beleieve that would allow us to get the most out of Mclain(if we keep him), Burris, and Seymour, all we would have to do is find our other ILB thoughts.
December 21st, 2012 at 7:14 pm
dr_robert Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 6:53 pm
seymour is actually a good player. his injury/absence has been huge this season. he is just one of several good players who, for some reason, always catch wreck here, like kelly, branch, and carlisle.
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Yeah, I agree but he sucks balls big time cuz he aint never playin. Always out, don’t see him on the hi lite reel. But its all right, cuz DA and knapp are big ball huggers, so back off Seymour and see the reall ball hugger. We need to focus on the offense, defense just pithched a shut out, Hernandez style. All field goals. Smok’um big pipe. Peace pipe.
December 21st, 2012 at 7:15 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 7:06 pm
if we drafted Star we could go to the 3-4 with Seymour(if we sign him) at one DE and Houston at the other. I beleieve that would allow us to get the most out of Mclain(if we keep him), Burris, and Seymour, all we would have to do is find our other ILB thoughts.
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maybe a few months earlier, but after that practice blow up with Allen and the Twitter rant. its doubtful he returns.
have to start all over again with Manti Te’o or a secondary guy. or Both , a DL, a OL, maybe even another running back (with McFadden always injured).
i think a 3-4 would be good, but its very difficult to make that adjustment…esp. with how bad the defense was…not enough personnel.
DE Margus Hunt (draft)
NT Star
DE Seymour or another FA like Nick Eason/
LB Anthony Spencer (FA), draft
LB Wheeler/Burris
LB another – Gaither? Larry Grant?
LB Dion Jordan (draft) or Connor Barwin (FA)
CB Leon McFadden (draft)/Xavier Rhodes?
CB Michael Huff or Brandion Ross
FS Huff, Giordano – Dashon Goldson (FA) or Zeke Motta (draft)
SS Tyvon Branch
December 21st, 2012 at 7:16 pm
Trade knapp to Atlanta for Tony Gonzales.
December 21st, 2012 at 7:16 pm
Hella good peace pipe.
December 21st, 2012 at 7:17 pm
[...] Seymour out for Sunday’s game, says he’s still ‘elite’ player Defensive tackle Richard Seymour won’t play Sunday against the Carolina Panthers. It’s possible that he has played his final game of the 2012 season, but he still has a desire to play beyond this season. Seymour said Friday that the high … [...]
December 21st, 2012 at 7:17 pm
Los Raida Locos Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 7:16 pm
Trade knapp to Atlanta for Tony Gonzales.
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you need to put down the pipe, and the bottle too.
December 21st, 2012 at 7:18 pm
TRADE KNAPP TO ATLANTA FOR A POUND OF THAT RED DIRT..
December 21st, 2012 at 7:18 pm
Los Raida Locos Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 7:17 pm
Los Raida Locos Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 7:16 pm
Trade knapp to Atlanta for Tony Gonzales.
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you need to put down the pipe, and the bottle too.
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and the dual personality
but that ish was funny
December 21st, 2012 at 7:20 pm
more interesting to do it by position group to see if we can figure out what they might do:
OL:
OT Khalif Barnes
G Cooper Carlisle
OT Zach Hurd
C/G Alex Parsons
so, it would seem possible that bergstrom would take over for carlisle and they might go for a FA to replace barnes but why not keep him for continuity? probably won’t get an upgrade for cheap.
as for the hurd and parsons, depth upgrades will be important so i could see neither coming back.
December 21st, 2012 at 7:21 pm
I see us drafting Moore or Star, if not I believe we trade down to the middle of the 1st and picking up a second, if thats the case we should draft the big guard Womack out of ALA, then go D with the second rd pick we pick up.
December 21st, 2012 at 7:21 pm
dr_robert Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 7:03 pm
Players eligible for unrestricted free agency:
OT Khalif Barnes–will likely be back/ I hope he’s gone
DT Desmond Bryant–will be back/ Needs to be back
G Cooper Carlisle–likely replaced by bergstrom/ Goodbye
DE Andre Carter–might actually be back. looking better lately/ Has more to play for than Seymour. I say bring him back.
LB Omar Gaither–not likely/ Compete
S Matt Giordano–iffy/ Goodbye
RB Mike Goodson–probable/ Spot for him
WR Derek Hagan–iffy/ Goodbye
CB Joselio Hanson–probable. pretty good nickel./ Spot him
P Shane Lechler–iffy/ Love ya, but time to move on unless you’re willing to take a big pay cut.
QB Matt Leinart–probable/ Goodbye
S Mike Mitchell–maybe/ Compete
TE Brandon Myers–yes/ Spot him.
DT Richard Seymour–iffy/ Goodbye
DE Matt Shaughnessy–probable/ He’s in.
CB Shawntae Spencer–no/ Goodbye
LB Philip Wheeler–yes/ Spot him.
Players eligible for restricted free agency:
CB Phillip Adams–yes/ spot
Exclusive-rights free agents:
LB Kaelin Burnett–iffy/ Goodbye
WR Duke Calhoun–maybe/ Goodbye
CB Coye Francies–maybe/ maybe
OT Zach Hurd–iffy
C/G Alex Parsons–iffy
CB Brandian Ross–yes
RB Jeremy Stewart–yes
December 21st, 2012 at 7:26 pm
WR Derek Hagan
WR Duke Calhoun
TE Brandon Myers
very likely myers comes back but hagan could be displaced for a young guy like calhoun or another drafted player
December 21st, 2012 at 7:26 pm
Anybody see the hobbit? That movie is like rad.
December 21st, 2012 at 7:28 pm
RB Jeremy Stewart
RB Mike Goodson
both have looked good enuff to come back
December 21st, 2012 at 7:28 pm
dr_robert Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 7:26 pm
WR Derek Hagan
WR Duke Calhoun
TE Brandon Myers
very likely myers comes back but hagan could be displaced for a young guy like calhoun or another drafted player
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Dude, you like the Mariners? They are like the Cubs of the American league. I always like the Mariners, even tho I think they are the MLBs’ only major league farm team.
December 21st, 2012 at 7:28 pm
QB Matt Leinart
pretty much what u want as ur #2
December 21st, 2012 at 7:29 pm
i’m a reds fan
December 21st, 2012 at 7:30 pm
dr_robert Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 7:29 pm
i’m a reds fan
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I’m a Dusty Baker fan.
December 21st, 2012 at 7:30 pm
DT Desmond Bryant
DT Richard Seymour
DE Matt Shaughnessy
DE Andre Carter
i could see all of them but seymour may be out.
December 21st, 2012 at 7:30 pm
dr_robert Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 7:28 pm
QB Matt Leinart
pretty much what u want as ur #2
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QB Matt Leinart pretty much is a #2
December 21st, 2012 at 7:31 pm
Just thought of something. Al drafts DVD, he gets signed by a perennial playoff team & .500 squad, who has won 2 superbowls…The same can be said for Chris Johnson….And Reggie cuts him and we sign 2 guys are only good enough to get signed by a 4-10 team…But hey Ron Wolf says the guy can identify talent.
December 21st, 2012 at 7:31 pm
LB Omar Gaither
LB Philip Wheeler
LB Kaelin Burnett
gaither ain’t done sh!t
wheeler is a must
burnett could come back
December 21st, 2012 at 7:34 pm
S Matt Giordano
S Mike Mitchell
CB Joselio Hanson
CB Shawntae Spencer
CB Phillip Adams
CB Coye Francies
CB Brandian Ross
the secondary seems like there might be a changing of the guard, especially if u listen to the staff
December 21st, 2012 at 7:36 pm
ESETERIK78 Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 7:21 pm
dr_robert Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 7:03 pm
Players eligible for unrestricted free agency:
OT Khalif Barnes–will likely be back/ I hope he’s gone – replace with Will Svitek
DT Desmond Bryant–will be back/ Needs to be back
G Cooper Carlisle–likely replaced by bergstrom/ Goodbye – replace with Barret Jones (draft)
DE Andre Carter–might actually be back. looking better lately/ Has more to play for than Seymour. I say bring him back.
LB Omar Gaither–not likely/ Compete – Larry Grant, Niners?
S Matt Giordano–iffy/ Goodbye – replace with Dashon Goldson
RB Mike Goodson–probable/ Spot for him
WR Derek Hagan–iffy/ Goodbye – FA maybe good special teamer Julian Edelman
CB Joselio Hanson–probable. pretty good nickel./ Spot him
P Shane Lechler–iffy/ Love ya, but time to move on unless you’re willing to take a big pay cut.
QB Matt Leinart–probable/ Goodbye
S Mike Mitchell–maybe/ Compete – Robert Lester, Alabama (draft)
TE Brandon Myers–yes/ Spot him.
DT Richard Seymour–iffy/ Goodbye – Star Loutelelei or best DL avail in FA Alan Branch or Detroit’s Sammie Lee Hill
DE Matt Shaughnessy–probable/ He’s in. – maybe Phillip Merling (his deal was bought out by Packers)
CB Shawntae Spencer–no/ Goodbye – draft corner Sanders Comming (Geo) or Leon McFadden (SDSU)
LB Philip Wheeler–yes/ Spot him.
Players eligible for restricted free agency:
CB Phillip Adams–yes/ spot
Exclusive-rights free agents:
LB Kaelin Burnett–iffy/ Goodbye – lower round LB like A.J. Klein or OLB Cameron Lawrence (Miss. St.)
WR Duke Calhoun–maybe/ Goodbye
CB Coye Francies–maybe/ maybe – Justin Gilbert, CB, Oklahoma st (steal in 3rd round)
OT Zach Hurd–iffy
C/G Alex Parsons–iffy
CB Brandian Ross–yes
RB Jeremy Stewart–yes
December 21st, 2012 at 7:36 pm
The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 7:31 pm
Just thought of something. Al drafts DVD, he gets signed by a perennial playoff team & .500 squad, who has won 2 superbowls…The same can be said for Chris Johnson….And Reggie cuts him and we sign 2 guys are only good enough to get signed by a 4-10 team…But hey Ron Wolf says the guy can identify talent.
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Somebody pulled a boner and we got the shaft. There are dark sinister forces at work here, so plenty of candle light vigils will be needed to exorsize these monsters. Strange. Very strange indeed.
December 21st, 2012 at 7:37 pm
dr_robert Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 7:34 pm
S Matt Giordano
S Mike Mitchell
CB Joselio Hanson
CB Shawntae Spencer
CB Phillip Adams
CB Coye Francies
CB Brandian Ross
the secondary seems like there might be a changing of the guard, especially if u listen to the staff
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We need a changing of the guard at the coaching ranks.
December 21st, 2012 at 7:40 pm
The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 7:31 pm
Just thought of something. Al drafts DVD, he gets signed by a perennial playoff team & .500 squad, who has won 2 superbowls…The same can be said for Chris Johnson….And Reggie cuts him and we sign 2 guys are only good enough to get signed by a 4-10 team…But hey Ron Wolf says the guy can identify talent.
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Johnson is 33, had plenty of chances to assert his place, and never did. DVD was replaced by Hanson. I’d say so far he’s been better.
December 21st, 2012 at 7:46 pm
FYI Tebow Time In Oakland
December 21st, 2012 at 7:47 pm
Local Fan Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 7:36 pm
The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 7:31 pm
Just thought of something. Al drafts DVD, he gets signed by a perennial playoff team & .500 squad, who has won 2 superbowls…The same can be said for Chris Johnson….And Reggie cuts him and we sign 2 guys are only good enough to get signed by a 4-10 team…But hey Ron Wolf says the guy can identify talent.
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Somebody pulled a boner and we got the shaft. There are dark sinister forces at work here, so plenty of candle light vigils will be needed to exorsize these monsters. Strange. Very strange indeed.
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Supposedly, Brandion Ross is quite good. We’ll give Mac the benefit of the doubt until we see this next draft. Dude has his work cut out for him.
December 21st, 2012 at 7:48 pm
No pat lee replaced dvd, hanson is strictly a nickel back, dvd is not. Dvd is a 2nd year player hanson is an 8 year vet, hes as good as he will ever be, dvd is no where near his ceiling and has much room to grow hanson does not. Reggie has been a flop thus far.
December 21st, 2012 at 7:49 pm
Local Fan Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 7:37 pm
dr_robert Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 7:34 pm
S Matt Giordano
S Mike Mitchell
CB Joselio Hanson
CB Shawntae Spencer
CB Phillip Adams
CB Coye Francies
CB Brandian Ross
the secondary seems like there might be a changing of the guard, especially if u listen to the staff
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We need a changing of the guard at the coaching ranks.
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If it aint broke, dont fix it. – and thats only “fixing” it again.
if anything, shuffle the assistants. There will be plenty top tier coordinators that will shake out from Philly, Cleveland, San Diego once the hammer falls in the offseason.
December 21st, 2012 at 7:51 pm
Dr_robert Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 7:31 pm
LB Omar Gaither
LB Philip Wheeler
LB Kaelin Burnett
gaither ain’t done sh!t
wheeler is a must
burnett could come back
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Gaither is a reserve, and can play special teams. Which makes him a hall of fame talent over Rolando McClain.
they could draft an ILB, though. He’s a good guy to play with and doesnt bring baggage, which makes him a plus with this crew.
December 21st, 2012 at 7:53 pm
Jackie Bibby Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 7:48 pm
No pat lee replaced dvd, hanson is strictly a nickel back, dvd is not. Dvd is a 2nd year player hanson is an 8 year vet, hes as good as he will ever be, dvd is no where near his ceiling and has much room to grow hanson does not. Reggie has been a flop thus far.
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Goodson was OK, not great, but not a bust.
Seymour re-sign might’ve been a mistake.
lets see what he can do with a full draft. There is too much turnover, and too much assumption that the “new” will do better than the old did (we see the results of that thinking).
Steady as she goes – lets get to the combine, get our board up, dont overspend in FA.
Then Chucky in 2014. LOL
December 21st, 2012 at 7:54 pm
DVD is out for the season.. and just is not very good. He had every chance to show something and he said it was his fault.
The kid doesnt know how to play the ball and doestn tackle. It was horrible
December 21st, 2012 at 7:56 pm
Got to hand it to Seymour, he didn’t want to get traded here, but he made the best of it. He became a team leader and gave us everything he had left.
This season however, he barely played or even practiced. It was one injury after another. I don’t see him getting any better, just older. When his contract expires, he should bow out gracefully.
December 21st, 2012 at 8:03 pm
People on this blog kill me because they talk as if Reggie is exempt from the possibilitie of failure because he was an assistant in greenbay…. But thats the thing, Reggie was just an assistant in GB not the man calling the shots. But leave it to some on here and he was the sole reason gb won their last sb. I understand reggie comes from a successful organization but that doesnt neccessarily guarantee he can build 1 on his own here. Scott pioli came from the pats whose had wayyy more success than the packers over the past 10 years but look at him in kc and its a mess. I dont care where reggie came from and what success he had there because this is the raiders, what he did elswhere is irrelevant here, and so far hes been a dud in my eyes from his lame azz coaching hires and average joe draft picks. Fire DA! Put Reggie on thin ice!
December 21st, 2012 at 8:05 pm
Chucky 2013! Will make all the pain go away.
December 21st, 2012 at 8:10 pm
Jackie Bibby Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 8:05 pm
Chucky 2013! Will make all the pain go away.
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Still not happening
December 21st, 2012 at 8:11 pm
Jon Gruden is not happening till it happens!
December 21st, 2012 at 8:14 pm
Aribe’ my little concubines.
I am worried.
What if Pryor sucks donkey dorks?
I mean, big time. Showing no promise? Just buttugly?
So many posters will have egg on their face, we might as well bring sausage and grits.
December 21st, 2012 at 8:16 pm
ROOTS is on. BET Channel. On all weekend, it looks like.
December 21st, 2012 at 8:21 pm
No people like u crack me up cuz u act like u have never watched nfl football before and expect instant success.
December 21st, 2012 at 8:21 pm
So Reggie Mac and Dennis Allen wants football players. Somebody who doesnt Complain and is a Team Player?
What Happens now is that the Jets cut Tebow and Big Mac picks him up..
A New Era????? I could see it happening. Think about it…. Bringing “Baby Jesus” himself in from the Ashes and changing the face of this Organization. Lets face it this is not the Raiders of Old… Pretty soon people we’ll be dressed up in Angel Wings at the Coliseum..
December 21st, 2012 at 8:24 pm
PurpleDrank81 Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 8:21 pm
So Reggie Mac and Dennis Allen wants football players. Somebody who doesnt Complain and is a Team Player?
What Happens now is that the Jets cut Tebow and Big Mac picks him up..
A New Era????? I could see it happening. Think about it…. Bringing “Baby Jesus” himself in from the Ashes and changing the face of this Organization. Lets face it this is not the Raiders of Old… Pretty soon people we’ll be dressed up in Angel Wings at the Coliseum..
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If he jumps into the black hole the fans might start burning
December 21st, 2012 at 8:24 pm
Dec 17th, 2012 at 12:00 pm by Josh SanchezMock Draft 2013
Home » NFL » NFL Draft » Mock Draft 2013 » 2013 NFL Mock Draft: Week 15
Each week Fansided will have a new mock draft to preview and showcase this upcoming April’s draft. For more in depth analysis of each pick, be sure to visit the Fansided site of your favorite team and check back each Monday for a new and updated Mock Draft.
NOTE: This is as accurate a draft order as possible. As the season nears it’s conclusion, the accuracy of the draft positioning will become more pin point. Here is the current draft order.
1. Kansas City Chiefs – Geno Smith, Quarterback, West Virginia
At the end of the season, the Chiefs are going to undergo some serious change. A new general manager, a new head coach and a new stable of talented players. When a new regime takes over, the first thing they need to do is evaluate the quarterback position. That means they will be sifting through the eligible quarterbacks in this year’s draft class and take the man that they think can be the biggest difference maker. This year, that is West Virginia’s Geno Smith.
2. Jacksonville Jaguars – Jarvis Jones, Outside Linebacker/Defensive End, Georgia
The Jaguars need to upgrade along the defensive front seven. One way to do that would be by selecting a player like Jones that has been compared to Denver’s Von Miller. Jones can play with his hand in the dirt and make some plays standing. Jones is battle tested in the toughest conference in college football and he has shown he is an elite pass rusher that can change a game.
3. Philadelphia Eagles – Luke Joeckel, Offensive Tackle, Texas A&M
The Eagles aren’t going to be able to get anything going until they solidify their offensive line. Joeckel is the clear number one prospect at his position and the Eagles will need to pull the trigger. If Nick Foles is going to have any success moving forward, he is going to need a reliable left tackle and that is just what Joeckel will provide.
4. Oakland Raiders – Star Lotulelei, Defensive Tackle, Utah
The Raiders desperately need to upgrade their talent along the defensive line. Luckily for them, that is the strength of the 2013 NFL Draft class. Oakland will have their pick from multiple top tier prospects at a position of need. As it stands now, Lotulelei will be the top available player along the defensive line. Don’t rule out a pass rusher for Oakland, either.
5. Cleveland Browns – Barkevious Mingo, Outside Linebacker/Defensive End, LSU
The Browns would love to land Jarvis Jones with their first pick, but Mingo is an excellent consolation prize. Mingo is considered one of the most naturally gifted pass rushers in this year’s draft class and his size/speed/strength combination has NFL personnel excited about his potential.
6. Tennessee Titans – Bjoern Werner, Defensive End, Florida State
Bjoern Werner is a name that is rapidly rising up NFL Draft boards and he could end up being selected in the top three. For now, Werner would be a perfect fit in Tennessee. As the nation’s most consistent pass rusher, Werner would bring some much needed production to the Titans defensive end position.
7. Detroit Lions – Manti Te’o, Linebacker, Notre Dame
In typical Detroit Lions fashion, the team will go with the best player on their board. Grabbing a linebacker like Te’o may not be as big of a need as grabbing a top tier cornerback, but at this point Te’o is too good to pass up. This could be a spot where teams would be looking to jump up ahead of Buffalo and Arizona to snag a quarterback, in which case they could land the corner they desire like Dee Milliner or Johnathan Banks.
8. San Diego Chargers – Dee Milliner, Cornerback, Alabama
Milliner is the clear number one cornerback prospect in this draft. Milliner could have gone to Detroit just a pick earlier, so if he remains on the board it would be the pick San Diego needs to make. Two of the Chargers top defensive backs will become free agents after the season and they can ill afford to allow a top talent like Milliner slip through their fingers.
9. Buffalo Bills – Damontre Moore, DE/OLB, Texas A&M
It may not be the biggest need for the Bills, but after the past two weeks they have shown they desperately need help on the defensive side of the ball. You can never have too many pass rushers and Moore is considered a possible top 5 talent. Moore still has a lot of room to develop and he could learn behind Mario Williams and Mark Anderson before he is ready to make a major impact.
10. Carolina Panthers – Johnathan Hankins, Defensive Tackle, Ohio State
Carolina would love to get their hand on Star Lotulelei, but he will be long gone before the Panthers are on the clock. Hankins would provide the team with a big body to place along their interior line and hopefully improve their rush defense.
December 21st, 2012 at 8:26 pm
This guy is easily one of my Favorite College Players
Bjoern Werner, Defensive End, Florida State
December 21st, 2012 at 8:32 pm
Kansas City Chiefs: Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia
This pick largely depends on what happens with Scott Pioli. If he’s fired, as the awesome @saveourchiefs movement is pushing for, this selection will be used on a quarterback. There currently is no signal-caller worth taking No. 1 overall, but that could easily change. Remember two years ago when ESPN was mocking Da’Quan Bowers and Nick Fairley to the Panthers? Well, Cam Newton ballooned to the top, as will some other quarterback this year. If not, the Chiefs could always trade down.
If Pioli is retained, he’ll pick Luke Joeckel, Manti Te’o or Star Lotulelei and then go for Mike Glennon in the second round. I’ve heard from a reliable source that Pioli really likes Glennon. Mel Kiper, by the way, stated that Glennon could be the first signal-caller off the board, so maybe the Wolfpack product will be the quarterback who rises to the top of the draft. A lot will change over the next four months.
By the way, I’m doing this live because I thought it’d be fun to get instant feedback. I’m going to post my mock anyway, so why not do it this way? Follow @walterfootball for updates.
Jacksonville Jaguars: Jarvis Jones, DE/OLB, Georgia
I’ve been mocking a quarterback to the Jaguars for the longest time because it’s been clear that Blaine Gabbert is a sunk cost. I argued that there was no way in hell Jacksonville could go into the 2013 season and sell its fans on Gabbert for another year.
However, two things have happened. First, Matt Barkley has completely fallen off and cannot be taken at No. 2 overall right now. And second, Chad Henne was brilliant in two starts prior to playing the three AFC East teams. Unless this downward spiral continues, what the Jaguars can sell the fans on is Henne as a bridge to a young quarterback they take in Round 2. Thus, they’ll be free to snag someone as talented as Jarvis Jones.
Jones would be a huge boost to a defense that has missed strongside linebacker Daryl Smith all year. Smith is a free agent, so if he’s not re-signed, Jones would be a worthy replacement. He would function as Von Miller does in Denver, rushing the quarterback in obvious passing situations.
Oakland Raiders: Star Lotulelei, NT, Utah
Is there any doubt the Raiders need help at defensive tackle in the wake of Doug Martin’s near-record performance?
Richard Seymour’s contract will be voided at the end of the season. Meanwhile, Tommy Kelly is a bum who doesn’t care about winning, as evidenced when he laughed after prolonging a San Diego drive with a pair of offside penalties. He’s played so sluggishly this year and was especially bad versus Tampa, so there’s no chance he’s going to see a penny of his $6.5 million salary in 2013. He’s as good as gone, and 15-year-old head coach Dennis Allen lost all respect in the locker room for not cutting him after the opener.
Philadelphia Eagles: Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M
Is there any doubt that the Eagles have to upgrade their offensive line? Their tackle position is in shambles. Jason Peters tore his Achilles; Demetress Bell has been a bust signing; while King Dunlap simply sucks. Even if Peters comes back close to 100 percent, an upgrade could be made at right tackle, which would allow Todd Herremans to move back to his natural guard position.
Luke Joeckel had a slow start to his 2012 campaign, but he’s improved tremendously, even stifling the LSU pass-rushers. He could easily go in the top four, right after a quarterback and some order of Jarvis Jones and Star Lotulelei.
Detroit Lions: Damontre Moore, DE/OLB, Texas A&M
The Lions’ draft strategy is to pick the top player on their board. It just so happens that the best prospect available happens to fill a huge need.
Kyle Vanden Bosch likely won’t be back with the team next season because of his $5 million salary, while the other exterior pass-rushers, excluding Cliff Avril, have barely done anything this year.
Damontre Moore recently said he plans on returning to school, but he did leave the door open by saying, “I’ll look at it.” What he’ll see is everyone projecting him to be a top-eight pick. That could prompt him to change his mind.
Pick change; previously Manti Te’o, ILB
San Diego Chargers: Taylor Lewan, OT, Michigan
The Chargers almost have to make this pick. Philip Rivers appears to be regressing, but it’s impossible to tell if that’s the case because he’s getting slaughtered behind a pathetic offensive line. San Diego cannot, under any circumstances, enter the 2013 season with Jared Gaither as its starting left tackle. He’s just way too injury-prone and unreliable.
Pick change; previously DeMarcus Milliner, CB
Buffalo Bills: Tyler Wilson, QB, Arkansas
This is a reach – I had Tyler Wilson in the second round of last week’s update – but we’ve seen second-day talents like Blaine Gabbert and Christian Ponder go in the top 12. Teams are so desperate for quarterbacks that they’ll make moves like this.
General manager Buddy Nix, who is generally forthcoming about his offseason plans, told the media that he plans on drafting a franchise quarterback. He even said he’ll trade up for one in the 2013 NFL Draft. He may have been talking about Geno Smith if the Chiefs pass on him, but he won’t have to move anywhere for Wilson.
Pick change; previously Bjoern Werner, DE/OLB
Cleveland Browns: Manti Te’o, LB, Notre Dame
Manti Te’o makes lots of sense for the Browns if Damontre Moore and Jarvis Jones are off the board. He could either play the middle, which would move D’Qwell Jackson to a more natural weakside position, or they could just station Te’o at strongside linebacker, where he would replace the soon-to-be-retired Scott Fujita. Regardless, an upgrade at linebacker is desperately needed.
Pick change; previously Dion Jordan, DE
Carolina Panthers: Johnathan Hankins, NT, Ohio State
I was told by a reliable source not to mock Fletcher Cox to the Panthers because they were satisfied with their current group of defensive tackles. Based on the rushing yardage they recently surrendered to Bryce Brown and Jamaal Charles, I highly doubt they’ll feel the same way in April. Besides, Johnathan Hankins is one of the best players available.
I thought about mocking DeMarcus Milliner to the Panthers as well, by the way. It was a close call, but I’m still going with Hankins for now.
Tennessee Titans: DeMarcus Milliner, CB, Alabama
The Titans were interested in drafting a highly ranked cornerback at No. 20 back in April, but neither Stephon Gilmore nor Dre Kirkpatrick fell to them. Maybe they’ll have more luck in the 2013 NFL Draft, as they do in this situation with one of the top players available filling a big need. Alterraun Verner will be entering his contract year in 2013, so Tennessee will need a new starter if it can’t retain him. Besides, the Titans need to fix their 21st-ranked pass defense.
December 21st, 2012 at 8:32 pm
Problem is everyone wants that SUPERSTAR player but I’d rather have 6 base hits then 1 Homerun. We have so many needs that 1 Superstar isnt going to help very much
December 21st, 2012 at 8:37 pm
NFL Mock Draft – 12/20/2012
ROUND 1
1. KANSAS CITY CHIEFS
Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia: Whether the Chiefs explore free agency, trade or the draft, clearly this is a team in need of new blood at quarterback. Smith is not held in the same regard as past No. 1 overall picks Andrew Luck or Cam Newton, but the 6-3, 220 pound senior completed 71.4 percentof his passes for 40 touchdowns and just six interceptions during the regular season. Mobile, intelligent, accurate and possessing a strong arm, Smith’s upside could be enough to convince the Chiefs he’s worth the gamble.
2. JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS
Bjoern Werner, DE, Florida State: The Jacksonville Jaguars currently rank 29th in the NFL in rush defense, allowing an average of 145.7 yards per game and have given up 18 touchdowns on the ground in just 13 games. Worse, they’re dead last in the league with just 14 sacks in 13 games. The instinctive, physical Seminole would help in both areas, as well as help spark interest in a lagging fan base.
3. OAKLAND RAIDERS
Jarvis Jones, OLB, Georgia: The Raiders rank just one ahead of the Jaguars for last in the league with just 17 quarterback sacks in 12 games. The Raiders historically have shied away from linebackers in the first round, but general manager Reggie McKenzie’s won’t allow the team’s past to dictate their future, especially with an impact pass rusher available. Talent isn’t the concern with Jones, though health may be. He was a star at USC before transferring to Georgia and enjoying consecutive all-conference campaigns. A neck injury, however, led to his transfer from the Trojans three years ago. Though he’s had no known problems since, it will require a close inspection at the Combine, should the redshirt junior elect to leave for the NFL a year early.
4. PHILADELPHIA EAGLES
Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M: Should head coach Andy Reid be on his way out in Philadelphia as many anticipate, don’t put it past the Eagles’ new head coach to elect to protect the team’s investments made in quarterbacks Michael Vick and Nick Foles by adding to the team’s offensive line. The Eagles boast plenty of talent on the roster but injuries have robbed them off the continuity necessary to win consistently. Joeckel, the junior left tackle who quietly has played a critical role in Aggie quarterback Johnny Manziel’s Heisman season, is NFLDraftScout.com’s top-rated prospect for the 2013 draft.
5. DETROIT LIONS
Manti Te’o, ILB, Notre Dame: Despite boasting as much talent up front defensively as any team in the league, the Lions remain very average in run defense, currently ranking 20th in the league. Te’o instincts and physicality would help improve this area. Perhaps just as importantly, his passion and selflessness might provide the leadership this team is sorely lacking.
6. SAN DIEGO CHARGERS
Jake Matthews, OT, Texas A&M: There are plenty of theories as to why Philip Rivers hasn’t played up to his previous standards in recent years. Perhaps the most logical is the turnstile that he’s been forced to overcome at left tackle. Matthews has played on the strong-side throughout his Aggies’ career but like his Hall of Fame father, Bruce Matthews, he’s capable of making the transition to virtually whatever role his future NFL team most needs him.
7. CLEVELAND BROWNS
Damontre Moore, DE, Texas A&M: With the pieces seemingly coming together, Cleveland will be looking for immediate impact with this pick, which almost surely means a pass rusher. Capable of lining up as a defensive end or outside linebacker, Moore has the athleticism and versatility to do precisely that.
8. BUFFALO BILLS
Tyler Wilson, QB, Arkansas: While incumbent starting quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick is far from the team’s weakest link, few believe he is the caliber of quarterback that can lead Buffalo to a Super Bowl. Furthermore, general manager Buddy Nix has specifically stated he hopes to find the team’s quarterback of the future. Wilson, along with Georgia and Tennessee underclassmen Aarron Murray and Tyler Bray, respectively, have the arm talent and success against quality competition that could force a desperate team to gamble on draft day.
9. TENNESSEE TITANS
Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah: The clear dominant team in the AFC South division is Houston and for the Titans to compete with them, they’ll need to be able to slow down the Texans’ dominant ground game. Lotulelei has been NFLDraftScout.com’s top-rated senior defender all year long due to his ability to clog running lanes and improving pass rush.
10. CAROLINA PANTHERS
Johnathan Hankins, DT, Ohio State: One of the Panthers’ few bright spots this season has been the play of defensive ends Charles Johnson and Greg Hardy. Carolina’s defensive tackles could use an upgrade and Hankins is a terrific talent. With no elite receivers to help take the pressure off of Cam Newton, the Panthers and their defense-oriented head coach, Ron Rivera, could resort to the time-honored tradition of taking the best player available.
December 21st, 2012 at 8:39 pm
If DA the selfish double agent gets his team up to play and even beat Carolina, we could go from a top 6 pick to out of the top 10. Chew on that…
December 21st, 2012 at 8:40 pm
NFL Mock Draft – 12/21/2012
ROUND 1
1. KANSAS CITY CHIEFS
Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia: The Chiefs’ offense, which averages a paltry 13.9 points per game, has really struggled through the air with 16 interceptions and just eight passing touchdowns. Geno Smith has cooled off the past few weeks after his hot start, but he has NFL tools and would give Kansas City an upgrade at quarterback.
2. JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS
Bjoern Werner, DE, Florida State: The Jaguars have drafted offense in the top-10 the past two years (Blaine Gabbert, Justin Blackmon) and with a young foundation on that side of the ball, they should look to the defense with this pick. Jacksonville ranks last in the league in sacks (15.0) and Werner brings an athletic, physical presence against both the run and pass, in the mold of Chris Long.
3. OAKLAND RAIDERS
Barkevious Mingo, OLB, LSU: The Raiders have a lot of beef on their defensive line, but need to add more speed to get after the passer, ranking near-last in the league in sacks (21.0). Mingo has the speed and athletic skill-set that would make the late Al Davis proud.
4. PHILADELPHIA EAGLES
Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M: Just like other positions on the Eagles depth chart, offensive tackle looked to be a strength, but injuries have really taken a toll on this team. Although Jason Peters injury situation will be a factor in Philadelphia choosing a tackle, Joeckel has the chance to grow into one of the NFL’s best.
5. DETROIT LIONS
Manti Te’o, ILB, Notre Dame: The Lions have been very streaky on defense and need to add some leadership on that side of the ball. Te’o would not only bring his talented skill-set to Detroit, but he would also bring a positive influence to a squad with more than a few questionable characters.
6. SAN DIEGO CHARGERS
Jake Matthews, OT, Texas A&M: The Chargers have questions at both tackle spots and while they hope Jared Gaither is part of the solution, his durability remains to be a concern. Matthews can be overlooked by his Aggie counterpart (Joeckel), but a player with his bloodlines and talent won’t last long on draft day.
7. CLEVELAND BROWNS
Dee Milliner, CB, Alabama: Even with new ownership and likely a new coach, the Browns will probably give Brandon Weeden another year at quarterback, mostly because there aren’t any better options out there. The biggest need for Cleveland is in the secondary, lacking an impact corner opposite Joe Haden.
8. BUFFALO BILLS
Sheldon Richardson, DT, Missouri: The Bills invested a lot of money in their defensive line, most recently adding Mario Williams to rush the passer. While defensive tackle is far from their largest need, drafting Richardson will only help the Bills’ depth up front.
9. TENNESSEE TITANS
Damontre Moore, DE, Texas A&M: The Titans have received very average production from their starting defensive ends Kamerion Wimbley and Derrick Morgan (8.5 combined sacks) and with little depth behind them, the Titans need to add another rusher to the fold.
10. CAROLINA PANTHERS
Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah: The interior of the Panthers’ defensive line has been a question mark since Kris Jenkins left in 2007 and, ironically, Carolina haven’t invested a top-50 draft pick on a defensive tackle since Jenkins over a decade ago. Lotulelei isn’t as consistent as scouts would like, but when he’s firing on all cylinders, he’s tough to control.
December 21st, 2012 at 8:41 pm
Mid Round Players to look at:
Gabe Jackson,Guard….Miss ST
Sean Porter,OLB….A&M
Andrew Jackson,MLB….Western Kentucky
December 21st, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Question: If Pryor is so good why isn’t he ahead of Leinart on the depth chart?
December 21st, 2012 at 8:47 pm
1. Kansas City Chiefs – Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia
A 15-0 loss to Oakland sticks a fork in the idea that the Chiefs could or should stay away from a quarterback with the first pick. The offense is inept, outside Jamaal Charles and you won’t win many games without a top quarterback in today’s NFL. The new regime in KC will bank their future on West Virginia’s signal caller. While he struggled a bit down the stretch, a solid showing in pre-draft workouts will vault Geno back to the top.
2. Jacksonville Jaguars – Bjoern Werner, DE, Florida State
The Chiefs and Jags appear to be dead set on battling until the end for the top pick. They were beat up by a so-so Miami squad to solidify themselves as a full fledged candidate for the top spot. Don’t let the Jason Babin selection fool you into thinking the Jags won’t take a pass rusher if they sit in this spot. Babin could wind up being a rental for the season leaving the Jags empty handed at DE. Werner is the top pass rusher in a stacked class. He’s a much better athlete than given credit for and adds the bonus of being able to stop the run. He’s the most complete of the bunch and a very worthy selection with the 2nd pick.
3. Oakland Raiders – Sheldon Richardson, DT, Missouri
Tommy Kelly and Richard Seymour could both be gone after this season. Neither has proven worthy of their hefty contracts and could be upgraded. Many will think this is too high for Richardson…now. Richardson is a dynamic athlete at DT, he may challenge Warren Sapp’s 40 time at the combine. He possesses an elite first step and is the most disruptive DT in this class which includes some very good prospects.
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Seems a bit far fetched at the moment, but you know how guys rise and fall after the combine.
December 21st, 2012 at 8:48 pm
No way should Sheldon Richardson would be taken by us in the Top 7….. I’ve seen this guy play on tape and sure he’s quick but he cant tackle
December 21st, 2012 at 8:49 pm
You people just don’t get it. Russell was the best pick the Raiders ever got. The guy shoulda been a mega superstar, but the lack of coaching curtailed his promising developement. Who did we have back then? Chew on that. And if he ever does make a comeback, you better hope it is NOT with and AFC West team, or we will be looking at years of struggle beating whatever team he opts to play for. Chew on that haters.
December 21st, 2012 at 8:50 pm
PurpleDrank81 Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 8:41 pm
Mid Round Players to look at:
Gabe Jackson,Guard….Miss ST
Sean Porter,OLB….A&M
Andrew Jackson,MLB….Western Kentucky
$$$$$$$$$$$
Andrew Jackson intrigues me, but I think he is a 2 down LB in the NFL.
December 21st, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Massa Reynolds gave you a name. It’s a good name. Yur name is
Toby.
KUNTA. KUNTA KINTE!!~
December 21st, 2012 at 8:52 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 8:49 pm
You people just don’t get it. Russell was the best pick the Raiders ever got. The guy shoulda been a mega superstar, but the lack of coaching curtailed his promising developement. Who did we have back then? Chew on that. And if he ever does make a comeback, you better hope it is NOT with and AFC West team, or we will be looking at years of struggle beating whatever team he opts to play for. Chew on that haters.
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This is a joke right? Someone jack your handle? Sarcasm?
December 21st, 2012 at 8:53 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 8:49 pm
You people just don’t get it. Russell was the best pick the Raiders ever got. The guy shoulda been a mega superstar, but the lack of coaching curtailed his promising developement. Who did we have back then? Chew on that. And if he ever does make a comeback, you better hope it is NOT with and AFC West team, or we will be looking at years of struggle beating whatever team he opts to play for. Chew on that haters==================
pLEASE tell me you didnt just say that it’s the coaches fault that Russell turned into the biggest bust in NFL history?
December 21st, 2012 at 8:54 pm
Los Raida Locos Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Question: If Pryor is so good why isn’t he ahead of Leinart on the depth chart?
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Cause our coaches suck and do not want a QB controversy, why else would they not allow him to play. It’s not rocket science. Sheeeeze. You got a 17mil arm you want to bench? Sheeeeze. I think not. Pryor will either be our QB of the future, or someone elses and it will come back to bite us in the rump, like everything else has. Look at the coaches. Sheeeeze.
December 21st, 2012 at 8:54 pm
I want DE/ OLB D Moore or trade down:
1- CB D Milliner
2- OLB A Barr (Chico’s guy)
3- DE Brandon Jenkins
December 21st, 2012 at 8:55 pm
Britney bringing it. Hot..
December 21st, 2012 at 8:56 pm
I’m back brahs, nerds and goobs. New and improved. Coming to your blog real soon. WHUT WHUT
December 21st, 2012 at 8:59 pm
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December 21st, 2012 at 9:00 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 8:49 pm
You people just don’t get it. Russell was the best pick the Raiders ever got. The guy shoulda been a mega superstar, but the lack of coaching curtailed his promising developement. Who did we have back then? Chew on that. And if he ever does make a comeback, you better hope it is NOT with and AFC West team, or we will be looking at years of struggle beating whatever team he opts to play for. Chew on that haters.
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Wrong blog brahs. Cyperspace gets a little confusing sometimes with all the lefts and rights and ups and downs and the side shows with the freaks and the playahs.
December 21st, 2012 at 9:00 pm
That didn’t work out….my bad!
December 21st, 2012 at 9:02 pm
I want DE Moore,DT Star,or trade down for OG Womack or C Barret Jones.
December 21st, 2012 at 9:02 pm
Raiders need to go after Sanchez. Make a move for him. Pronto. He’d be a great fit in Knapps system, and a good fit for Knapp. Perfect guy for the WCO/ZBS.
December 21st, 2012 at 9:04 pm
I’m really diggin this peace and brotherly love stuff. Maybe it’s just the time of season, but it should be all year round. No more hatin on my brothers. It’s all about the love.
December 21st, 2012 at 9:19 pm
Didnt expect instant success but also didnt expect instant regression either. This team was 8-8 2 years running with a solid offense and reason to be optomistic, since reggie has come in all the optomism has deflated and weve become a laughing stock. If he was really good as they say he should be able to take an 8-8 team and improve them but hes done the opposite. Sorry that I refuse to be a gullibe and nieve fan like some. Reggie is a dud until he rights the ship and proves other wise… @Doc Rob
December 21st, 2012 at 9:20 pm
DA is a joke. His pressers make me nauseas. Nobody wants to play for this fool.
Dark days, friends. Dark days.
December 21st, 2012 at 9:29 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 8:49 pm
You people just don’t get it. Russell was the best pick the Raiders ever got. The guy shoulda been a mega superstar, but the lack of coaching curtailed his promising developement. Who did we have back then? Chew on that. And if he ever does make a comeback, you better hope it is NOT with and AFC West team, or we will be looking at years of struggle beating whatever team he opts to play for. Chew on that haters.
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LOL! Is this for real?
December 21st, 2012 at 9:32 pm
CDERaider Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 9:20 pm
DA is a joke. His pressers make me nauseas. Nobody wants to play for this fool.
Dark days, friends. Dark days.
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sappy//
December 21st, 2012 at 9:54 pm
YOU ARE ALL WORTHLESS AND WEAK. 666
December 21st, 2012 at 10:03 pm
Commentary is kinda bland and generally adolesant.
GO RAIDERS!!!!
December 21st, 2012 at 10:06 pm
Reggie “McCheese” Mackensie is no Billy Beane.
That’s for sure….
December 21st, 2012 at 10:08 pm
I would rather have Mingo over Jarvis Jones and Star.
And hey look at that, David Lee with a triple double.
MVP!!!!
December 21st, 2012 at 10:11 pm
JFB,
You see Curry shooting the lights out? Beans was on his game too….
Great game.
December 21st, 2012 at 10:13 pm
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December 21st, 2012 at 10:13 pm
And Priest put his patented kiss of death on Harrison Barnes.
After he said he “will average 25ppg in a season”, he has struggled to put up 4 points a game.
Goose egg the other night, 4 points on 0-7 tonight.
He is a dreaded two foot jumper only. Can’t finish because he has to set and collect before jumping.
He is now 12th amongst rookies in scoring. Bad pick.
December 21st, 2012 at 10:15 pm
Lakers suck. They got no man balls.
December 21st, 2012 at 10:15 pm
Curry was awesome, but he still can’t guard much, which will always be an issue.
Sessions was getting in his azz at times, and he stinks.
December 21st, 2012 at 10:18 pm
Should have drafted Tyler Zeller.
December 21st, 2012 at 10:21 pm
Raiders are gonna trade for sanchez then draft matt barkley.
USC qb’s will be complete. one big circle jurrrk
December 21st, 2012 at 10:23 pm
Long time listener, first time caller. Great blog site, full of Raider info. Good stuff. Just wanted to drop in and say I think the Raiders can pull a win Sunday if the coaches can keep their depends from getting to soiled. We have good players, but I think they don’t really want to play for coaches who aren’t yet potty trained. We need coaches whos’ balls have dropped. Coaches who have some man hair around the you know what. If they don’t win on Sunday, it’ll be a long trip home. Nothing like feeling dejected after a buttox whoopin. I think the players need to play for better contracts, specially the FAs’ and the ones that want out. If they do that, we can win. Also, want to give a big shout out to my bros’ in Redwood City, San Bruno, and San Jose. Y’all keep bein Raider. Outro!
December 21st, 2012 at 10:23 pm
Cavs are a young and talented team.
Go Cavs!
Go Clippers!
December 21st, 2012 at 10:24 pm
cavs aint got shizz on the Warriors
December 21st, 2012 at 10:26 pm
Raiders are going to end this East Coast thing they got going on.
Rod Streater with a big game.
December 21st, 2012 at 10:28 pm
honestly Rod Streater will be the next great Raiders WR. by year 3 he will be a legit WR.. maybe number 2 . Solid. Will probaly top out better then DMOORE
December 21st, 2012 at 10:28 pm
Cavs are talented though. Dont get me wrong.
December 21st, 2012 at 10:44 pm
Aren’t the Cavs like 7-20?
They stink. Maybe we can trade them a future pick for Sideshow Bob for our playoff run this season.
December 21st, 2012 at 10:45 pm
I hope the best for Streater and our other WRs, but the Raiders need a legit #1 wide receiver. We’ve been stuck with prospects who turn out to be #2 or #3 guys for the past decade.
December 21st, 2012 at 10:47 pm
I think Streater can be a great #2, but not sure if he can be a top-shelf #1.
Most of those guys have elite size, all though not all of them.
Could be a Steve Smith, Victor Cruz type, smallish #1.
December 21st, 2012 at 10:49 pm
This Sunday is a win/win. IF we win the game it’ll end that stupid east coast trip thing and be a real good sign moving forward. Even tho half the guys on the field for us won’t be here next yr. but still.
Also, it would be a humiliating defeat for certain Cam Newton lovers who aren’t really Raiders fans…but pretend they are just so they can use this forum for their own personal soap box to talk about political and social issues and who have a massive hatred for white QB’s for no good reason.
If we lose…it helps our draft position.
Win/Win baby.
December 21st, 2012 at 11:05 pm
Wow there was my clone today lol, the trolls reaching today
December 21st, 2012 at 11:12 pm
Ofcourse when newton loses , the troll will probably disappear
December 21st, 2012 at 11:13 pm
Ofcourse when newton loses , the troll will probably disappear
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Nah….he will blame the bad O-line, crappy organization, dropped passes and horrible coaching staff.
But around these parts……no dice.
December 21st, 2012 at 11:23 pm
If we win it was Newton’s ‘Legacy Game’. If we lose we were just trying out new things…means nothing.
December 21st, 2012 at 11:43 pm
We’re not playing Sunday for seeding or home field. We’re playing for draft pick position. Big difference.
December 21st, 2012 at 11:51 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 4:34 pm
Not hatin on Palmer, but, with him gone Cincy is a new team, heading upward.
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Cincy got Hue. Got better.
Seattle got Cable. Got better.
Houston lost Knapp. Got better.
Denver lost Allen. Got better.
Raiders got their salad tossed.
December 21st, 2012 at 11:57 pm
Hooray! We survived 2012!
Screw you, Mayans!
December 22nd, 2012 at 12:01 am
RaiderCrunch Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 11:43 pm
We’re not playing Sunday for seeding or home field. We’re playing for draft pick position. Big difference.
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Have no fear. The Double Agent will do his best to have this team prepared to win. It’s crunch time and he feels his seat warming. Needs to win 2 of his last 3 to be retained for next year and ensure that we don’t get a top 10 pick. Reggie can then tell Mark ‘you see? we’re turning the corner!’.
Then the Double Agent will complete his screw job next year and shuffle on back to the Donks to give Fox a reach around.
December 22nd, 2012 at 12:03 am
Papertiger418 Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 11:57 pm
Hooray! We survived 2012!
Screw you, Mayans!
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I’d like to know how the goons that actually believed it are going forward from this point on. Did they sell the farm abd go all out this year and are now left with d1cks in hand?
December 22nd, 2012 at 12:27 am
PS3 USERS
I’ve created a madden 13 community.
Name: ibabuzz
Abbreviation: IBA
Password: fireknapp
Come join up so we can compete h2h, for bragging rights. Best player gets to replace Greg Knapp
December 22nd, 2012 at 12:45 am
Settings are:
All-Pro
7 Min Qtrs
Custom Playbooks ON
Runoff 20 seconds
Auto-Strafe and Auto-Sprint OFF
Can change these later if need arises.
December 22nd, 2012 at 12:46 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 11:13 pm
Ofcourse when newton loses , the troll will probably disappear
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Nah….he will blame the bad O-line, crappy organization, dropped passes and horrible coaching staff.
But around these parts……no dice.
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who u guys talking about?
December 22nd, 2012 at 12:48 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 10:47 pm
I think Streater can be a great #2, but not sure if he can be a top-shelf #1.
Most of those guys have elite size, all though not all of them.
Could be a Steve Smith, Victor Cruz type, smallish #1.
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streater is 6′3″ 200
December 22nd, 2012 at 12:49 am
Papertiger418 Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 10:45 pm
I hope the best for Streater and our other WRs, but the Raiders need a legit #1 wide receiver. We’ve been stuck with prospects who turn out to be #2 or #3 guys for the past decade.
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well, i think i agree. i can see a scenario in which all 4 turn out to be good, but only dhb is a top pick, and he ain’t a #1. if any of them turn out to be good #2’s or even #1 worthy, then we will have the joy of two #1’s.
so, i am all for grabbing bowe or jennings.
December 22nd, 2012 at 12:51 am
SLAYER Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 9:54 pm
YOU ARE ALL WORTHLESS AND WEAK. 666
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actually, satanism, devil worship, and general stuff like u just posted is practically the definition of weak. u think ur scary but ur just dumb.
December 22nd, 2012 at 12:52 am
Try Some Reality Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 9:29 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 8:49 pm
You people just don’t get it. Russell was the best pick the Raiders ever got. The guy shoulda been a mega superstar, but the lack of coaching curtailed his promising developement. Who did we have back then? Chew on that. And if he ever does make a comeback, you better hope it is NOT with and AFC West team, or we will be looking at years of struggle beating whatever team he opts to play for. Chew on that haters.
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LOL! Is this for real?
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that sounds like missdick.
December 22nd, 2012 at 12:53 am
Dr_robert Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 9:04 pm
I’m really diggin this peace and brotherly love stuff. Maybe it’s just the time of season, but it should be all year round. No more hatin on my brothers. It’s all about the love.
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nice sentiment, but u guys know this isn’t me. i like to brag and bag too much. i just made that up. brag and bag (as in bag on people). i like it.
December 22nd, 2012 at 12:55 am
Los Raida Locos Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Question: If Pryor is so good why isn’t he ahead of Leinart on the depth chart?
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missidck says it’s “white supremacy”. no, he doesn’t understand what the word mean. and yes, he misuses it as much as he can, without knowing it.
December 22nd, 2012 at 1:29 am
Keep Huff at Corner and sign Sherrod Martin from Carolina…we’ll see plenty of him Sunday!!
December 22nd, 2012 at 1:31 am
Mayans………..we don’t need no stinkin’ Mayans!
December 22nd, 2012 at 1:32 am
Now I only have to worry about the financial cliff!
December 22nd, 2012 at 1:34 am
Only 9 more shopping days left for our boy and girls on the shining hill of democracy to play lets make a deal!
December 22nd, 2012 at 2:47 am
Oh man just heard that Steven Jackson could opt out of his contract with the Rams….
Make it happen Reggie, McFadden is Power-back trapped in the body of a finesse 3rd down back.
Steve Jackson could be the bruiser we’ve been needing here since Zack Crockett donned the Silver and Black
December 22nd, 2012 at 3:34 am
I wish we could use Mike “The Missile” Mitchell as a linebacker. DAMN YOU MADDEN 2013 FOR NOT ALLOWING ME TO SWITCH PEOPLES POSITIONS!!
December 22nd, 2012 at 6:54 am
Nobody posting for three (3) hours?
You guys know there’s a game tomorrow right?
I see some of you have a life.
December 22nd, 2012 at 7:01 am
Reggie has cancelled football season this year.
December 22nd, 2012 at 7:02 am
Kyle Williams gets death threats, now David Akers…and people say the Raider fans are the neer do wells?
Image is a double edged sword.
Raiders will always have a bad rep becuz of the colors..the history and that “Oakland bad boy” image.
It used to work in our favor. We used to be intimidating.
DA is not the poster boy for intimidation…but neither was Flores…or any of our coaches really, but our players used to be pretty tuff back in the day.
Come to think of it, maybe that’s one of the reasons Gruden was/is so popular with us…he’s probably the baddest boy coach we’ve ever had. At least the “image” of him with that scowl on the sidelines and his fiery demeanor in the lockerroom.
The fact he won with us doesn’t hurt.
December 22nd, 2012 at 7:08 am
315,
HST, I’m getting this weird feeling that you may not be a huge Reggie fan. Lol.
December 22nd, 2012 at 7:21 am
Pro Football Weekly has a little video piece on Raiders Panthers game.
They say take Carolina who is giving up 8.5 pt’s.
They said Raiders have been horrible against the spread all yr. with 7 double digit losses and it being on the road it makes it even worse.
December 22nd, 2012 at 7:22 am
Nobody wants to talk?
Fine.
Have a merry f’ing holiday.
December 22nd, 2012 at 8:11 am
The way I see it, we have had 4 “meaningful” games the last 9 years.
Last year against Det, KC and SD, and 2010 in Jax.
Those were the only playoff like games we have played in over that time.
December 22nd, 2012 at 8:11 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 4:21 pm
“When I get a lot of reps and I get comfortable, I will have success. I really believe that,” Pryor said.
so like i and other have said HE ISNT GETTING REPS IN PRACTICE AS THE THIRD STRING SO THE CLUELESS STAFF HAS NO IDEA WHAT HE CAN AND CANT DO!! THEY JUST DISCOVERED IT WHILE HE WAS IMITATING CAM FOR THE SCOUT TEAM!!’
STOP WITH AL THE “THEY SEE HIM EVERYDAY IN PRACTICE” BULL SHIDD!!!
WHAT IS NOT TO LIKE ABOUT THIS KID?
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Do you not think he has been running the scout team all year? They practice against each other and try to make plays against each other in practice. Guys are pretty fired up. If he could make plays in practice, he would be out there on the field. Like Hagan and Streator and Stewart.
And what’s not to like about this kid? Maybe the fact that he sold out the entire Ohio State University and a very solid coach in Jim Tressell. OSU just happened to have an undefeated season and can’t play in the BCS National Championship Game because of sanctions mainly caused by Pryor even though he was counseled over and over and over again not to do anything stupid. Maybe that is a reason to not trust him with another franchise or institution.
December 22nd, 2012 at 8:13 am
DJ Johnny Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 7:21 am
Pro Football Weekly has a little video piece on Raiders Panthers game.
They say take Carolina who is giving up 8.5 pt’s.
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Didn’t “Pro Football Weakly” break the Gruden “story”? Then back it down? Then say, “hey… it might happen?”
December 22nd, 2012 at 8:20 am
Seymour Bush Says:
December 21st, 2012 at 8:49 pm
You people just don’t get it. Russell was the best pick the Raiders ever got. The guy shoulda been a mega superstar, but the lack of coaching curtailed his promising developement. Who did we have back then? Chew on that. And if he ever does make a comeback, you better hope it is NOT with and AFC West team, or we will be looking at years of struggle beating whatever team he opts to play for. Chew on that haters.
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So let me get this straight. It’s 8:49 on a Friday night an some dwerb is posting this drivel as me. The difference between me and this moron is I am out on a Friday night partying down with live human females. This complete utter worthless gorb is on the internet, posing as someone else, writing drivel, for what reason? This person should come forward, and be the poster boy for how waste ones life. REALLY SUCKS to be you gorb.
December 22nd, 2012 at 8:23 am
I thought that didn’t sound like you, Seymour. Me thinks Debo likes to troll around. He is the ONLY other poster here still on Russell’s jock.
December 22nd, 2012 at 8:32 am
Try Some Reality Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 8:23 am
I thought that didn’t sound like you, Seymour. Me thinks Debo likes to troll around. He is the ONLY other poster here still on Russell’s jock.
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I love that idiots do that. First off a troll completely wasting its existence is good. Secondly, it’s complete bottom of the dumpster idiots like this that will go on a rampage and shoot huddling children in a school, so that they are on some internet blog posting idiocy is also good. Lastly, the fact that they are trying to get some rise out of me is proof positive completely I unequivocally own them.
December 22nd, 2012 at 8:38 am
Anyone looking for a strong start to next year better be rooting for a strong finish to THIS year!
Losing 4 out of 5 to end last season didn’t carry over too well, did it?
December 22nd, 2012 at 8:40 am
Lot of merit to this J Hill
Losers lose
December 22nd, 2012 at 8:41 am
J Hill Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 8:38 am
Losing 4 out of 5 to end last season didn’t carry over too well, did it?
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No it did not. And the Raiders did play fairly well against the Buncos and played well against the Cheats. If they could pull a very good game together against Carolina some players might be able to save their jobs.
December 22nd, 2012 at 8:45 am
Does anyone know the free agent DEs?
Someone’s 3rd down specialist who might be too expensive for their current team?
December 22nd, 2012 at 9:00 am
What if the Raiders finish the year with wins at Carolina and San Diego?
Raiders finish 6-10… only 2 games off the pace of last year’s 8-8 team while installing new front office, new coaching staff, new schemes on offense and defense, turning over half the roster, and a harder schedule.
What happens then…
I sure hope they make a move at OC but it looks more and more like they won’t. Even if they lose these last 2 games.
December 22nd, 2012 at 9:12 am
Anyone looking for a strong start to next year better be rooting for a strong finish to THIS year!
Losing 4 out of 5 to end last season didn’t carry over too well, did it?
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Good to see there is still a handful of people that still get it.
Finished 2009 strong, carried over to the first .500 season in awhile in 2010, finished with some nice wins that season, that carried over to a fast start to 2011, fell apart the end of last season and that carried over to the beginning of this season.
Time to start to build some momentum for 2013.
December 22nd, 2012 at 9:16 am
Back-N-Black Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 9:00 am
What if the Raiders finish the year with wins at Carolina and San Diego?
Raiders finish 6-10… only 2 games off the pace of last year’s 8-8 team while installing new front office, new coaching staff, new schemes on offense and defense, turning over half the roster, and a harder schedule.
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Harder schedule?
2011 opposing teams winning percentage -> .455
2010 opposing teams winning percentage -> .504
2011 opposing teams at or above .500 -> 6
2010 opposing teams at or above .500 -> 10
FALSE
December 22nd, 2012 at 9:17 am
Back-N-Black Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 9:00 am
What if the Raiders finish the year with wins at Carolina and San Diego?
Raiders finish 6-10… only 2 games off the pace of last year’s 8-8 team while installing new front office, new coaching staff, new schemes on offense and defense, turning over half the roster, and a harder schedule.
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***CORRECTION***
Harder schedule?
2012 opposing teams winning percentage -> .455
2011 opposing teams winning percentage -> .504
2012 opposing teams at or above .500 -> 6
2011 opposing teams at or above .500 -> 10
FALSE
December 22nd, 2012 at 9:28 am
Time to start to build some momentum for 2013.
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That’s the way I see it. This is going to be an interesting game. A few posters here have been focusing on Cam Newton. Actually, they have been focusing on Newton all season. Myself, I like the matchups between Carolina’s two very very good DE’s and our OT’s. That is something you Raider fans might want to watch. Veldheer and Barnes are going to have to step up big time for us to have any type of chance. I would also like to see Goodson and Reece be more involved.
December 22nd, 2012 at 9:28 am
Don’t be surprised if we add a WR in rd 1.
December 22nd, 2012 at 9:33 am
Cavs stink?!
Eff you Chico! No warriors fan should say that about another team. You guys stunk for years, and you still do despite being lucky so far.
December 22nd, 2012 at 9:36 am
Irving
Waiters
Zeller
Thompson
Young & Talented!
December 22nd, 2012 at 9:39 am
O,
To know stink, you have to know stink.
I know stink. The Cavs…..stink.
December 22nd, 2012 at 9:44 am
LOL Chico.
Glad you are back and safe with no more drama.
December 22nd, 2012 at 9:47 am
J Hill Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 9:28 am
Don’t be surprised if we add a WR in rd 1.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Over DE, CB, and 2 good NTs?
That will surprise me.
December 22nd, 2012 at 9:50 am
Trade down if possible (not going to be easy).
1- CB D Milliner
2- OLB A Barr (Chico’s guy)
3- DE B Jenkins
4- RB Michael Dyer or the Short/ Slow/ troubled CB from LSU. He can be our NB.
December 22nd, 2012 at 9:51 am
Biggest needs:
-Speed rusher (but not a speed rusher ONLY in the first round, i.e Jarvis Jones)
-Back-end secondary help (could be DB, SS or FS for that matter. They are all replacable).
-Interior lineman (replacing Briesel with a stud G would represent the biggest instant upgrade possible. Or get a Center, move Wiz to guard and boot Briesel back to Texas.)
-Return man (don’t even get me started on this. Should be the easiest hole to fix, yet we have amazingly gotten worse this season, from a disastrous 2011.)
December 22nd, 2012 at 9:53 am
Trade down if possible (not going to be easy).
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Thank you, trading down will be harder this year than any other year of late. Not enough top-shelf guys teams will be wanting to trade up to get.
The only real trade down scenarios I can see that add value would be picking in the 7-10 range, and have Geno Smith or Te’O fall to us, and then a team moves up for them.
Otherwise, we could trade down a little, but it would be the trade down from #7 to #10, but get only a 2014 2nd rounder, and 2013 4th rounder, type thing.
No big coup to be had this year.
December 22nd, 2012 at 9:55 am
I think our best bet to get a 2nd rounder is to package a later pick with a player.
Say McNinny and a 5th rounder for a 2nd, Huff and a 2014 3rd for a 2nd, type deal.
December 22nd, 2012 at 9:58 am
Chico,
What can you tell us about Barr? We know he can rush the passer with 10+ sacks?
Can he play 4-3 and cover like V Miller, is he fast, etc..?
December 22nd, 2012 at 9:59 am
2- OLB A Barr (Chico’s guy)
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I think he will be a better pro than Jarvis Jones.
Remember, Jones is like the oldest guy on the field every week. He is already 23 years old, Barr is only 20, and just started to play defense.
Barr = Jason Taylor 2.0
December 22nd, 2012 at 10:01 am
Played RB in high school and WR/TE his first two years at UCLA.
His first year at LB, he only lead the nation in sacks. Not bad.
Tall, angular frame, and needs to add some weight to bang in the running game.
But who is more likely to add some weight naturally and easily, a 20 year old or a 23 year old (Jones)?
Can’t imagine he falls into the 2nd round, he will own the combine.
December 22nd, 2012 at 10:03 am
December 22nd, 2012 at 9:51 am
Biggest needs:
-Speed rusher (but not a speed rusher ONLY in the first round, i.e Jarvis Jones)
-Back-end secondary help (could be DB, SS or FS for that matter. They are all replacable).
-Interior lineman (replacing Briesel with a stud G would represent the biggest instant upgrade possible. Or get a Center, move Wiz to guard and boot Briesel back to Texas.)
-Return man (don’t even get me started on this. Should be the easiest hole to fix, yet we have amazingly gotten worse this season, from a disastrous 2011.)
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
As you know, the draft is about Value. Btw, I like D Moore a lot.
DE Brabdon Jenkins from FSU was injured the 1st game of the season, but he was a 1st round prospect before his injusry, which helped the German Kid (I forgot his name). I Hope we can get him in the 3rd.
December 22nd, 2012 at 10:04 am
Our offense has been pretty sad. Not sure why you would be surprised to see a playmaker added to the offense in rd 1.
December 22nd, 2012 at 10:04 am
I was/am a Ziggy Ansah fan, but was a little concerned with the way ESPN kept saying that his HC Mendenhall was very passionate about the need to “surround him with the right people before the draft”.
I know that is vital for about every draft pick, but I was using my reading between the lines skills on that one and it was of concern.
December 22nd, 2012 at 10:05 am
Sign a FA RDE.
Guys like Kam Wimbley are available every offseason, lol.
December 22nd, 2012 at 10:05 am
Can he cover?
December 22nd, 2012 at 10:08 am
Can he cover?
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I would think a former WR/TE would have those “fluid hips” I always hear about more so than other OLB’s, but I don’t think he was asked to do it much.
Seems that is always the million dollar questions with every LB prospect.
Must really can’t, few can.
December 22nd, 2012 at 10:09 am
J Hill Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 10:04 am
Our offense has been pretty sad. Not sure why you would be surprised to see a playmaker added to the offense in rd 1.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
If our offense is “pretty sad” then our defense is miserable.
It’s cheaper to draft a good CB or pass rusher than to sign a good FA due to new rookie salary cap.
December 22nd, 2012 at 10:10 am
I was watching the Titans-Jets fiasco (sometime awful football is just as enjoyable to me as good football, in a sick way).
Kam Wimbley was still just doing his patented dip move, nearly every play.
Amazing that a guy can last that long in the league with one move.
But hey, Avery Johnson played a dozen years in the NBA with zero ability to go to his right, so sometimes guys are just really good at one thing and it can carry them throughout their career.
December 22nd, 2012 at 10:11 am
J,
The top WR prospects in this draft are Woods at USC and Keenan Allen at Cal, supposedly, and I don’t think either are instant difference makers.
If Marquis Lee was coming out, I would be all over trying to get him at any cost.
Pass on the WR in round 1. I think we will FINALLY get that vet WR this offseason in FA.
Watch for Greg Jennings.
December 22nd, 2012 at 10:12 am
O,
It’s cheaper to draft a WR too.
December 22nd, 2012 at 10:13 am
The WR from Tenn?
December 22nd, 2012 at 10:14 am
Plus, the reason I like Barr as well, is I believe that Seymour Bush made a great point about West Coast teams excelling with West Coast guys.
Barr is a WC cat that would love to play in Cali still.
Do we draft ANOTHER dude from the South, who for some reason would rather be in his dump of a hometown in Georgia than in the Bay Area?
That hasn’t seemed to work out so well of late. Guys like McClain, Jamarcus, even Seymour, high-tail it out of town the first moment they can.
December 22nd, 2012 at 10:15 am
And of course I’m looking at us drafting around 12 after we win out.
December 22nd, 2012 at 10:15 am
Thx for the info Chico.
I think with a good combine he can become a 1st round prospect.
December 22nd, 2012 at 10:15 am
J Hill Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 8:45 am
Does anyone know the free agent DEs?
Someone’s 3rd down specialist who might be too expensive for their current team?
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Maybe Jason Babin of Jacksonville. Or Ray Edwards (but he was dumped from Atlanta because of a “poor attitude”.
December 22nd, 2012 at 10:16 am
I don’t want the 4th best DE at 12.
Would rather have the #1 WR, OG, RT, or S.
December 22nd, 2012 at 10:16 am
The WR from Tenn?
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I think his name is Justin Houston, and he drops waaaay too many passes to be a top 10 pick.
He will be a combine freak as well though.
December 22nd, 2012 at 10:18 am
I like Chance Womack early, as he is the clear cut #1 prospect at his position.
However, does he have the footwork necessary to excel in Gregg Knapp’s offense?
(Just kidding O)
December 22nd, 2012 at 10:30 am
Warmack’s would probably fit best in a power man-blocking scheme as a professional. He could use his strength to drive open running lanes. Warmack may not have the speed and athleticism for a zone-blocking scheme. He could drop some weight to be a better fit if drafted into that type of rushing offense.
December 22nd, 2012 at 10:31 am
Yes let’s draft guys, ho played in HS on west coast or play on the west coast unis
December 22nd, 2012 at 10:32 am
J Hill Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 10:16 am
I don’t want the 4th best DE at 12.
Would rather have the #1 WR, OG, RT, or S.
$$$$$$$$$$$
Rather have the #1 CB D Milliner, but I agree with your logic but not the positions.
I’ll take CB Milliner or DT/ NT J Hankins Go Buckeyes!
December 22nd, 2012 at 10:33 am
I’m not at my own house I would love to Kick some ass on Madden 13 GG
December 22nd, 2012 at 10:38 am
Knapp’s offense is a joke Chico, and OG is not an impact player. We need talent and impact players, and I don’t think drafting an OG in the 1st is good value since we run the ZBS, we have other needs, and we need impact players.
December 22nd, 2012 at 10:39 am
O,
I think the #1 CB will be off the board at 12.
December 22nd, 2012 at 10:41 am
Yes, OG is not typically an “impact” player, but when your two OG’s currently are an over the hill Savage and an under the hill loser, then he can be fairly impactful.
December 22nd, 2012 at 10:45 am
Draft a pass rusher , that’s what we need
December 22nd, 2012 at 10:48 am
J Hill Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 10:39 am
O,
I think the #1 CB will be off the board at 12.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Too early to tell IMO. We have to wait for the combine.
December 22nd, 2012 at 10:50 am
I like DE/ OLB D Moore, if we keep our pick.
December 22nd, 2012 at 10:56 am
Picture #24 on the official site tells its own story
December 22nd, 2012 at 11:00 am
Raiders need starters before we need depth
December 22nd, 2012 at 11:00 am
I like DE/ OLB D Moore, if we keep our pick.
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Haven’t watched him play much, but the sites say he is a 3-4 OLB, so drafting him would HAVE TO mean that we are switching to the 3-4.
Enough of this drafting guys and playing them in a new position business.
December 22nd, 2012 at 11:06 am
#31 lets us know hes not being accepted
December 22nd, 2012 at 11:11 am
Just realized:
Kelly, Tollefson, Houston, Crawford, & Biloduki are the Raiders DLINEMEN for 2013.
Reggie, time to get to work man.
Pssst, you think that’s bad checkout our lb situation, Burris & McClain…dddd that’s all folks.
December 22nd, 2012 at 11:19 am
glad that idiot DAV isnt in here…hed dont know jack sh!t…
December 22nd, 2012 at 11:22 am
DMoore is 4-3 end n can also line up at 3-4 outside linebacker and can be 3-4 end as well, he would be awesome for multiple D our coaches want to use
December 22nd, 2012 at 11:23 am
Whether you like it or not the lines(and backers to an extent) will be our focus with our top three picks for the next two years. We will do that to build a core and start controlling the lines. The results will be wins.
9 of your starting 22 (41%) plays exclusively in the box.
OLines create time and space. Dlines destroy time and space.
THAT IS WHAT THE GAME IS ABOUT. The rest of the pieces fill in the gaps.
Do you really think we are going to be a consistently, strong, winning franchise building our lines with low round draft picks or free agents?
Taken to another extreme, do you think we will be able to beat our competition when they consistently use high picks to build this part of their team?
These are typically 270-320 pound athletes that need to have the agility and quickness of college level skill players. Do you really think you are likely to find premier or at least very good lineman in the fifth to seventh round or packing out at Wal Mart THAT ARE BETTER THAN WHAT OTHER NFL TEAMS HAVE?
You are certainly entitled to your opinion but I would strongly suggest that the laws of probability are against us. Better yet, we have a classic example of what that strategy gets us; The 2012 Oakland Raiders.
HINT: We need to build OUR CORE through the draft and expend enough high round draft picks on lineman to ensure superior line play. The way the Raiders used to do it. You build the core of your team through the draft. You use FA’s for niche pieces to buy time or plug a hole.
We have 10 years of evidence to show that what we have been doing DOES NOT WORK!
December 22nd, 2012 at 11:23 am
I see JFB and J Hill are drinking the koolaid this fine morning, bless your optimistic hearts. I just can’t see us winning either of these last two games esp on the road. Cam is hot and I can’t see a scenario where we slow him down. SD still has some good players and I think they will send Norv out in style. Imo our only chance against them is if we can dominate their oline which is very possible. BTW JFB D Moore who is my fav draft prospect played in the 4-3 this season but can play in either scheme.
December 22nd, 2012 at 11:25 am
Well JFB has staked his considerable blog reputation on Greg Knapp.
December 22nd, 2012 at 11:34 am
Good morning east OAK
Somebody who gets it.
Forget about winning out this year.
Next year is most likely a seven win season.
We may start to make a playoff push in 2014.
Way too many holes on the lines and too few high round picks available.
December 22nd, 2012 at 11:37 am
I think one of the reasons why this regression screws us so badly is that we’ve lost appeal to FAs as a result, which means we’d have to spend more money in order to acquire them. If we had been a .500 team who played their opponents tough then Reggie and DA would have built themselves a touch of credibility as a staff. Instead, we’re just another struggling team desperate to improve.
Messing up the offense cost us in more ways than one, on other words.
December 22nd, 2012 at 11:40 am
JFB,
When the Lakers SMASH the Ws tonight ……
December 22nd, 2012 at 11:43 am
Charlie’s right about the lines; we need to construct our team from the inside out. Still, ideally I wish we could sign a proven #1 wide receiver to a long term deal.
I know I’m repeating myself, but I honestly think it would have the most immediate, positive impact on our offense. Just imagine going into next season with this year’s group + random UDFAs and a mediocre veteran FA or two. Bad news!
December 22nd, 2012 at 11:44 am
Charlie Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 11:34 am
Good morning east OAK
Somebody who gets it.
Forget about winning out this year.
Next year is most likely a seven win season.
We may start to make a playoff push in 2014.
Way too many holes on the lines and too few high round picks available
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Morning, hopefully RM is a Man of his word and focuses most of his attention on the front lines.
December 22nd, 2012 at 11:49 am
EastOak,
We’ve been pretty damn good against the run with the exception of the TB game.
I think the real question for us winning these last 2 games is the QB and WRs being on the same page.
December 22nd, 2012 at 11:50 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 10:04 am
I was/am a Ziggy Ansah fan, but was a little concerned with the way ESPN kept saying that his HC Mendenhall was very passionate about the need to “surround him with the right people before the draft”.
I know that is vital for about every draft pick, but I was using my reading between the lines skills on that one and it was of concern.
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I live in Southern Utah and am a HUGE UTES fan and I like this kid too. If he was around when we pick in the later rounds I would take him
Signed GM JESUS
December 22nd, 2012 at 11:51 am
I think DBowe or GJennings Should be target #1 in FA.
December 22nd, 2012 at 11:52 am
ideally I wish we could sign a proven #1 wide receiver to a long term deal.
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Me too!
December 22nd, 2012 at 11:54 am
Looks like th Saints are about to enter Salary Cap He|| because of Drew Brees’ contract.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/22/saints-facing-a-cap-mess-in-2013/
Are OT Jermon Bushrod, DE Will Smith, DT Sedrick Willis worth taking a look at? Could we afford any of those guys?
December 22nd, 2012 at 11:58 am
healthy or not, Seymour & Branch suck.
kick both players to the curb, Reggie!
December 22nd, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Keepers:
Desmond Bryant
Shane Lechler
Brandon Myers
Matt Shaughnessy
Philip Wheeler
Phillip Adams
Brandian Ross
Jeremy Stewart
the rest = hot garbage!!
December 22nd, 2012 at 12:01 pm
J Hill, we have played no complete games as a team this year the closest we have come to a complete game was the ATL game. I can easily see us blowing a coverage because of Newtons run ability.
December 22nd, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Bowe/Jennings Moore and Ford would be a Lethal combo imo.
December 22nd, 2012 at 12:12 pm
Rockstar
The only lineman on the free agent list we will keep will be Bryant. We will try to get a year out of Carter.
Lechler will need to take much less or he is gone as well.
Too many cap issues with a guy like Kelly making $70 mill over 5 years. Ridiculous money for an overrated backup.
The scary reality is that as of about a month ago, 13 players the Raiders had on the team last year are completely out of the NFL. That number has gone up since then.
That is how thin our talent is compared with the rest of the league.
McClain will be cut. Seymour and Shaugnessy are gone.
Carlisle will retire. Barnes is very limited(see Denver) but may get us by one more year.
That means at a MINIMUM we need a DT and DE with our first two picks. We can hope Bergstrom can take over for Carlisle. We then run our offense with the limitation of having to max protect for Barnes for one season.
Gee, maybe Knapp does not have as much to work with as some on this blog think he does?
December 22nd, 2012 at 12:19 pm
Philip Wheeler @Philgood50
All I want for Christmas is to be in a Flashmob with my team. During the game. On tv. That would be dope
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A flash mob (or flashmob) is a group of people who assemble suddenly in a public place, perform an unusual and unexpected act…
Fill in your own punchline…
December 22nd, 2012 at 12:19 pm
Charlie,
Kelly will be back. Bilikudi and Bryant too.
Don’t think we are going to draft a DT.
OL and DE I could see with our first 2 picks.
December 22nd, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Werner guy is ok, D Moore will make the most impact
December 22nd, 2012 at 12:22 pm
the only thing elite @ seymour is his paycheck!!!
never wanted to come here and is looking for one more idiot to overpay him. seymour, dhb, mcclain,lechler,and others will go and we can get some linemen and palyers that want to play.
coaching isnt the issue. bill belechick couldnt get this squad to the playoffs-especially now that we have a legit team winning the division!
December 22nd, 2012 at 12:23 pm
bowe will look great running 5 yard outs…
December 22nd, 2012 at 12:26 pm
JHill
I agree that Kelly will be back. I simply think he is a backup being paid like an all pro.
I believe we could have a decent Dline with an infusion of a top DT and the best DE we can get in round three.
Bilikudi and Bryant are backups as well.
I am a beliver that the Oline is the heart of our team but it will have to wait one more year as long as Bergstrom can fill in for Carlisle.
December 22nd, 2012 at 12:32 pm
TK played at pro bowl level last year. TK reminds me of Moss he will only give his all if the team he plays for is in contention.
December 22nd, 2012 at 12:36 pm
BTW what the hell happened to Albert Haynesorth the guy went from DPOY to out of the league? Talk about a fall from grace.
December 22nd, 2012 at 12:37 pm
A flash mob (or flashmob) is a group of people who assemble suddenly in a public place, perform an unusual and unexpected act…
Fill in your own punchline…
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Throwing a pass on 3rd and 9 that was over 5 yds.
Getting a win.
Gaiter making a tackle or assist.
Knapp being creative.
DA not looking clueless
all flashmob worthy.
December 22nd, 2012 at 12:39 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 12:36 pm
BTW what the hell happened to Albert Haynesorth the guy went from DPOY to out of the league? Talk about a fall from grace.
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Where I come from we call that
FVCK around Lay around!!! Loser= Haynesworth
December 22nd, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Only offensive FA, I think we should go after is Greg Jennings, still no out of whack contracts though.
December 22nd, 2012 at 12:45 pm
Maybe I’m having Javon Walker flashbacks, but I just have a feeling that as soon as we sign Jennings, his knee will flame out and we’ll be in the same position as we were before.
I like the guy but I’m concerned about his durability.
December 22nd, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Crazy article about treachery in Detroit during the Scott Mitchell era:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/22/lomas-brown-i-intentionally-missed-a-block-to-get-scott-mitchell-hurt/
Who would’ve thought o-lineman could be so devious?
December 22nd, 2012 at 12:57 pm
OLine, Nix could be the Xfactor, team and media have extremely quiet regarding his status. He has been on the 53 man roster the entire season and has been activated less often than Pryor.
Could be the OT, OG, or C we’ve been needing to play with Vehldeer & Wisniewski.
December 22nd, 2012 at 12:57 pm
East Oak
That is why I can not stand big contracts for free agents. Alsmost never works out.
Draft young hungry rookies with the salary cap and keep the best ones after four years.
My recommendation of a DT then a DE with our first two picks could really upgrade the unit.
New stud DT with Kelly, Bilikudi and Bryant makes a decent four man rotation.
A new DE with Carter, Houston and Tollefson would be an upgrade as well.
Obviously we need to nail both picks.
Seymour and Shaugnessy are gone. NO VALUE WHAT SO EVER.
December 22nd, 2012 at 1:03 pm
TalentxDurabilityxwork ethicxknowledge=producivity
When one of the variables on the left equals 0, productivity equals 0.
Seymour durability is 0. Productivity is 0.
Elite!!!!! Bovine Droppings!!!!
Same with McClain regarding work ethic.
December 22nd, 2012 at 1:03 pm
I have no doubt that Albert Haynesworth is angrily eating a hoagie at this very minute.
December 22nd, 2012 at 1:08 pm
[Talent x Discipline] / [Durability] = Productivity
[Productivity + Cajones] x [Luck] = Greatness
December 22nd, 2012 at 1:08 pm
To: Charlie Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 12:57 pm
RM stated during his first press conference after he took the GM position, he believes in taking the best player on the board. That suggests taking the best player regardless of need.
I think that player just might be Alabama’s MLB CJ Mosley (yes an inside linebacker that’s not Manti Te’o).
December 22nd, 2012 at 1:12 pm
A 3rd rd DE???
Would rather have the 1st rd player that is the best player at his position. BPA.
I think the top Des will be gone when we pick.
I think Star will be gone too.
December 22nd, 2012 at 1:14 pm
D1CK IS UNQUE$TIONABLY THE NFL’S HIGHE$T RATED CHECK CA$HER.
D1CK’$ LOVE OF MONEY IS UNRIVALED.
December 22nd, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Mikeschoice Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 12:22 pm
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I agree, Seymour is done. However, it has more to do with health and desire to play than talent. He still dominates blockers. He’s always gets good penetration on run and pass plays.
Watch film and you’ll see.
December 22nd, 2012 at 1:19 pm
No Offesne tehre Tiger but you might want to hit the math books.
Having durability in the denominator aint gunna work.
LOW numbers here = HIGH values. D1CK with his zer0 durability —-> INFINITY for productivity!
LOL !
papertiger418 Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 1:08 pm
[Talent x Discipline] / [Durability] = Productivity
December 22nd, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Charlie,
I don’t dispute that teams are built on the lines, but we are currently ranked as the # 9 OL in the league right now. I know stats can be deceiving.
GB has the WORST Oline in the league (stat wise) and yet they just clinched the division and are a very good…if not great team. Obviously Aaron Rodgers has alot to do with that.
If we are following the GB “model” going forward, I would look for Reggie to go after receivers WHO CAN CATCH the ball. GB is loaded at QB and receiver…just so darn dangerous.
W/O an Aaron Rodgers…it’ll be interesting to see where Reggie goes with this.
Our D line needs alot of help for sure.
December 22nd, 2012 at 1:55 pm
rodn5yn Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Mikeschoice Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 12:22 pm
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I agree, Seymour is done. However, it has more to do with health and desire to play than talent. He still dominates blockers. He’s always gets good penetration on run and pass plays.
Watch film and you’ll see.
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But he doesn’t make the game changing impact you might hope for with a guy who’s paid like that.
Where was he when Detroit was going 99 1/2 yd’s. Or when Buffalo was scoring TD’s on every posession the 2nd half of that game, or the last game with SD when we desperately needed SOMEONE…ANY FREAKING ONE to step up and make a play.
If he was double or triple teamed than what can you do, but I don’t think he was…at least against SD. You know what he was….he was tired.
December 22nd, 2012 at 2:23 pm
SEY-LESS IS AN ELITE WINDE-BAGGE AT THIS POINT.
BEING PAID HANDSOMELY FOR WHAT HE DID PRE-OAKLAND 4 YEARS+ AGO.
ENOUGH WITH THE MULTI-YEAR FACADE.
GOOD RIDDANCE.
December 22nd, 2012 at 2:25 pm
Papertiger418 Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 1:08 pm
[Talent x Discipline] / [Durability] = Productivity
[Productivity + Cajones] x [Luck] = Greatness
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I concur.
December 22nd, 2012 at 2:39 pm
D Moore ,trade up to get him
December 22nd, 2012 at 2:40 pm
Good call, Tuckrule! Math was never my strong suit. Maybe just multiply by the inverse instead?
December 22nd, 2012 at 2:40 pm
Trade D Moore(Less) for D Moore, I think it could work!
December 22nd, 2012 at 2:43 pm
Only way Seymour comes back is if we bring him on veteran minimum contract with and only way to get him to play is if the contract is filled with incentives like he has to get certain number of sacks , tackles Etc etc go earn extra 2-3 million
December 22nd, 2012 at 2:44 pm
Didn’t Seymour fail to show for the non-mandatory OTAs ?
Worked out on his own instead of under the supervision of the strength and conditioning coaches ?
Not saying the pulled hammy and knee issues could have been avoided – but who knows ?
Props to Sey for arriving with the rookies in the past and going into his own pocket to finance practices during the lockout – but we sure didn’t see that ‘leadership’ before the 2012 season commenced, did we ?
Then you’re injured and unavailable virtually the entire season and still yapping about being a leader and still being elite ?
Hilarious.
December 22nd, 2012 at 2:49 pm
Rich Seymour is probably still talented , but the desire doesn’t seem there ,I don’t know if he doesn’t care anymore or if he needs to be on a team that’s fighting for a championship , same with Kelly , he can dominate as well he just doesn’t bring it on every play , which is why my favorite player on D is L Houston , The dudes motor is going nonstop 150 MPH
December 22nd, 2012 at 2:52 pm
there are some exciting guys to build around , Streater, Houston Burris , wheeler , Adams Ross , Goodson and others
December 22nd, 2012 at 2:59 pm
Scrubs.
December 22nd, 2012 at 3:03 pm
I agree McFadden20. I really like Adams. At first, that comical fumble against Baltimore had me thinking..”what kind of schlep is this?”, but he has definitely come on. He looks back at the ball and has the quickness to do that, and then still catch up to the receiver.
He has a cockiness about him as well…I like the way he celebrates and seems genuinely into it.
December 22nd, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Is it just coincidence that the defense has played much better in the Denver game and KC games WITHOUT Seymour and McClain in the lineup?
December 22nd, 2012 at 3:10 pm
Those guys are practice squad material on a playoff caliber team.
December 22nd, 2012 at 3:29 pm
Would love to see Reggie trade up to draft Genooooooo!
December 22nd, 2012 at 3:31 pm
Adams has a future as a CB, not so much as a punt returner
December 22nd, 2012 at 4:12 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 3:29 pm
Would love to see Reggie trade up to draft Genooooooo!
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I don’t think he’ll need to trade up to get Geno.
December 22nd, 2012 at 4:18 pm
If it really is that a QB…franchise QB….would’ve brought us to 7-7 or 9-5 this year, as some have suggested, then that’s what we need.
I don’t know if I believe that any other QB would’ve had us any better than what we are, but if i can be convinced of that then is a Geno Smith THAT type of guy?
I don’t mean a guy that sits and learns on the bench and all that, i’m talking start from DAY ONE….like Luck and RG3 and others.
December 22nd, 2012 at 4:25 pm
I’m sorry. I take it back. It looks like KC will probably take Geno at # 1.
No sense talking about it.
My bad.
December 22nd, 2012 at 4:46 pm
Oak28
Car 10
December 22nd, 2012 at 4:48 pm
J,
Get ready to watch Dwight humiliate himself at the FT line tonight.
Coach Jackson is a Hack-a-Howard subscriber.
Kobe might just punch him in the head if he keeps missing them while the other team is fouling him intentionally.
December 22nd, 2012 at 4:53 pm
I am not sure where I stand on Geno Smith.
First off, he is a smart kid by all accounts, and his best skill is a much-needed skill, and that is his accuracy in the short to intermediate throws. Reminds me very much of Matt Ryan in that regard. Not a HUGE arm, but strong enough and deadly accurate on throws 30 yards and in.
At the same time, he never really seemed comfortable against the best teams he played, is from Miami and seemed bothered by the cold (body language was like “WTF it is COLD!!!”) and is not a great athlete. Also never plays under center, and we see those issues popup sometimes with Tebow and even Kapy, who keep fumbling snaps. Never took many hits either.
I wouldn’t mind if we drafted him, and I also wouldn’t mind if KC drafted him. He hoes have some bust-potential to him.
December 22nd, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Raiders 28 Carolina zero;
Second shut out in a row.
Raiders could finish ahead of San Diego in the division.
Raiders must defeat San Diego, see the pros and cons to defeating Carolina.
December 22nd, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Raiders could finish ahead of San Diego in the division.
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Hey, that would be the first time we finished better than 3rd in the division in 9 years!!!!
Let’s go get it done. Progress
December 22nd, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Jumpin lizards. How much better off would this team have been if we just woulda kept Coach Hue. We’ve been nuthin but bottom feeders and the future looks ugly with this current staff. Why would any player on this team want to risk injury for these coaches. Anybody who trashes what coulda been a good team needs a serious rectum examination. You really need to look deep, long and hard up the anus to see if they even got a clue.
December 22nd, 2012 at 4:59 pm
Geno
Jones
Moore
Te’o
Two A&M OTs
Miliner
Raiders simply need to be in top seven picks in the draft to be assured of drafting one of these players.
I must agree with you DJ, I don’t see the reason to move up to draft Geno, unless we are sold on him being the franchise qb.
December 22nd, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Hey, that would be the first time we finished better than 3rd in the division in 9 years!!!!
Let’s go get it done. Progress
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Oh yeah. That’s real progress. Progress by default. Especially if you consider regression as progress. There is no silver lining here gents.
December 22nd, 2012 at 5:02 pm
What is this current coaching staff good at? Just askin. Any answer would be helpful. Problem is, can’t answer it.
December 22nd, 2012 at 5:04 pm
Every one wanted Al gone and a GM brought in. Well you got your wish. These Raiders are not what they once were. Sad state of affairs.
December 22nd, 2012 at 5:06 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 4:53 pm
I am not sure where I stand on Geno Smith.
First off, he is a smart kid by all accounts, and his best skill is a much-needed skill, and that is his accuracy in the short to intermediate throws. Reminds me very much of Matt Ryan in that regard. Not a HUGE arm, but strong enough and deadly accurate on throws 30 yards and in.
At the same time, he never really seemed comfortable against the best teams he played, is from Miami and seemed bothered by the cold (body language was like “WTF it is COLD!!!”) and is not a great athlete. Also never plays under center, and we see those issues popup sometimes with Tebow and even Kapy, who keep fumbling snaps. Never took many hits either.
I wouldn’t mind if we drafted him, and I also wouldn’t mind if KC drafted him. He hoes have some bust-potential to him.
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I’m not sold at all on Geno. Seems like a guy who when things are going right, he’s comfortable, but when there is just a little bit of pressure he looks extremely uncomfortable. There have been two many good college qb’s who come into the pros look like this and have completely failed. I’m convinced he won’t be able to handle the pros.
December 22nd, 2012 at 5:07 pm
I will be shocked to the bone if we beat the Panthers. It all boils down to coaching. Can we out fox the Panthers? Doubt it very much. We game plan schemes, not opponents weaknesses. ‘Nuff said there.
December 22nd, 2012 at 5:19 pm
What is this current coaching staff good at? Just askin. Any answer would be helpful. Problem is, can’t answer it.
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Cutting penalties and kicking FG’s baby!!!
December 22nd, 2012 at 5:26 pm
#456
Don’t forget qb sneaks.
December 22nd, 2012 at 5:34 pm
ESPN…JOHN GRUDEN IS A D-BAG. ALLEN AND KNAPP AND TARVER DESERVE AT LEAST ANOTHER YEAR,…AT LEAST. GO RAIDERS AND HAIL SATAN. 666
December 22nd, 2012 at 5:34 pm
Stud Finder Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 5:04 pm
Every one wanted Al gone and a GM brought in. Well you got your wish. These Raiders are not what they once were. Sad state of affairs.
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Stop crying, you dope.
No one screwed up this organization more than Al did the last 10 years.
This is the result of Al’s meddling, you donkey.
Al stupidly threw money at players that didn’t deserve, and was the biggest tightwad in the world when it came to paying coaches.
Good riddance Al. Your legacy will be that you cared about al davis. Not the team. Not the players not the fans. You loved you, Al.
And you destroyed once was once a proud franchise.
December 22nd, 2012 at 5:35 pm
3rd to the 15th
Is where the Raiders stand in the draft order,
December 22nd, 2012 at 5:38 pm
This roster is the result of Al Davis. Not Reg. Not DA.
If you are so stupid you can’t see that, go be a donkey fan.
I hate it when fellow raider fans embarrass me. People look at us as if we are total morons.
Then they point to comments, like above, that prove it.
December 22nd, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Guaranteed 11th pick or better with wins by: Tampa Bay, New York, Buffalo, and New Orleans; even after we defeat Carolina.
December 22nd, 2012 at 5:40 pm
Stud Finder Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 5:07 pm
I will be shocked to the bone if we beat the Panthers. It all boils down to coaching. Can we out fox the Panthers? Doubt it very much. We game plan schemes, not opponents weaknesses. ‘Nuff said there
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Take your purse and get on home, little girl.
“wah. the coaches. wah. the coaches. wahhhh. the coaches dropped the ball. the coaches can’t tackle. it’s not the players, it’s the coaches”
whiney little bich,
December 22nd, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Make that Miami not Buffalo.
December 22nd, 2012 at 5:54 pm
The little cross poster is still here speaking for other people instead of his coward azz. Wow, pathetic.
December 22nd, 2012 at 5:57 pm
We know what we have in Carson, a starting qb with skill that plays like he spends his days off with Ricky Williams; we know what we have in Matt, a poor man’s version of Sanchez; what do we have in Pryor?
December 22nd, 2012 at 6:03 pm
Raiders must keep Vehldeer, Wisniewski, Moore, Reece, and Streater; all others may come back, be traded, cut,
Kinda like last year only we added Streater.
I do think Burris, Ross are keepers
Houston, Huff, and Branch have trade value
December 22nd, 2012 at 6:11 pm
#459 – In my mind, Javon Walker is always the “Poster Child” for all that was wrong with Al Davis’s last years. I think Al was a giant in modern football, but he made some really dumb moves in his later years.
Javon Walker wasn’t the worst, but he was sure among the dumbest and biggest wastes of money.
Two seasons
15 receptions
196 yards
1 touchdown
$21 Million
AND One Lost Roster Spot
December 22nd, 2012 at 6:13 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 6:03 pm
Raiders must keep Vehldeer, Wisniewski, Moore, Reece, and Streater; all others may come back, be traded, cut,
Kinda like last year only we added Streater.
I do think Burris, Ross are keepers
Houston, Huff, and Branch have trade value
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Only if Conner Barwin or Cliff Avril is available in FA – i’d think Houston would be a keeper.
Dashon Goldson would be a nice upgrade over Huff at safety, and they could draft Robert Lester if Branch moves on.
Would anyone take that contract, though?
Saints will be cleaning house – maybe Allen could call some favors in on some of his ex-guys over there…. they’ll be some turnover on other rosters.
December 22nd, 2012 at 7:02 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 5:57 pm
We know what we have in Carson, a starting qb with skill that plays like he spends his days off with Ricky Williams; we know what we have in Matt, a poor man’s version of Sanchez; what do we have in Pryor?
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A guy that has thrown one NFL pass and it landed at his receivers feet?
December 22nd, 2012 at 7:05 pm
Thought everyone went home for the night.
I hope Pryor does well when he goes in. He is a Raider and as long he is I will root for him.
I always want my guys to do well and help the team.
December 22nd, 2012 at 7:07 pm
On the other hand (out the other side of my mouth) I freaking can’t stand Knapp and wish DA would get some fire.
December 22nd, 2012 at 7:08 pm
So, again why should Allen and his Clowne Coach cadre return?
Of course they shouldn’t. Any talk of such nonsense needs to end.
4-12 should seal the deal (and improve our draft).
As if this below isnt already enough…
Pathetic.
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Three of Oakland’s four wins have come against Kansas City (twice) and Jacksonville, the two teams vying for the NFL’s top draft choice with 2-14 records.
In the other 11 games, the Raiders are 1-10 and have been outscored 363-186 — an average score of 33-17.
December 22nd, 2012 at 7:16 pm
Good thing DA is a defensive minded coach or we might REALLY SUCK!!
December 22nd, 2012 at 7:39 pm
I have a question.
Why do some folks think that the team has quit on DA?
I’m not seeing that.
Guess we will find out more tomorrow.
December 22nd, 2012 at 7:51 pm
Raider Prediction Board
Dedicated to Al Davis, Raider duct tape (boy does it hold) and the Coliseum rodents
Week 1: Alex7: Chargers 27 Raiders 20 (22/14)
Week 2: R8eray: Dolphins 20 Raiders 13 (35/13)
Week 3: Plunketthead Raiders 30 Steelers 27 (34/31) R
Week 4: Amysincharge: Denver 48-7 (37-6)
Week 5: Klas Tjorborn: Falcons 35 Raiders 20 (23/20)
Week 6: qodrn: Raiders 27 Jags 20 (26/23 OT) R
Week 7: raidermarty/VaRaiderNation Raiders 27 –
Chiefs 17 (26/16) R
Week 8: Bye Week.
Week 9: JONGRUDEN2012: Baltimore 47 Oakland 13
Week 10: GG: Saints 45 Raiders 17
Week 11: To be reconstructed when I feel better
Week 12: backstageatapupptshow: Cleveland 27 Oakland 13 – reverse winner – Albert B. Paine 20/17
Week 13: Cork: Denver 33 Raiders 13 (26/13)
Week 14: Plunketthead:Raiders 25 Missouri 17 (15/0)R
qodrn: Raiders 27 Carolina 24
RaiderCrunch Says: Oak28 Car 10
RaiderRetribution Says: Raiders 28 Carolina zero;
December 22nd, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Carolina 44
Oakland 17
December 22nd, 2012 at 8:08 pm
2nd time seeing the Ws.
Not impressed.
Still no post game.
December 22nd, 2012 at 8:19 pm
Raiders 38 Camolina 21
December 22nd, 2012 at 8:30 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 9:17 am
Back-N-Black Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 9:00 am
What if the Raiders finish the year with wins at Carolina and San Diego?
Raiders finish 6-10… only 2 games off the pace of last year’s 8-8 team while installing new front office, new coaching staff, new schemes on offense and defense, turning over half the roster, and a harder schedule.
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***CORRECTION***
Harder schedule?
2012 opposing teams winning percentage -> .455
2011 opposing teams winning percentage -> .504
2012 opposing teams at or above .500 -> 6
2011 opposing teams at or above .500 -> 10
FALSE
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7 games against playoff teams from last year – Steelers, Ravens, Broncos (2), Saints, Bengals, Falcons
4 of those on the road
Miami – who beat us last year – East coast game following a Monday night game
Final 2 on the road
Last year – 6 games against playoff teams from the year before – Only 2 of those on the road
2 of final 3 games at home
Played a Bears team with backup QB and a Vikings team without Peterson(for the most part)
Played a Broncos team with Tebow starting(and somehow still lost!!!!)
So I would consider this year a harder schedule.
December 22nd, 2012 at 8:40 pm
SLAYER Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 5:34 pm
ESPN…JOHN GRUDEN IS A D-BAG. ALLEN AND KNAPP AND TARVER DESERVE AT LEAST ANOTHER YEAR,…AT LEAST. GO RAIDERS AND HAIL SATAN. 666
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spoken like a true idiot. anyone who thinks the devil is their friend is a moron. and he probably thinks he’s “scary”. ooohhhhh. big deal.
December 22nd, 2012 at 8:42 pm
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 3:10 pm
Those guys are practice squad material on a playoff caliber team.
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and ur a practice squad doctor. go get ur green beanie!
December 22nd, 2012 at 8:43 pm
ALLEN IS THE BEST COACH THE OAKLAND RAIDERS HAVE HAD SINCE TOM FLORES. TARVER AND KNAPP NEED MORE YEARS TOGETHER TO BUILD A DOMINATING CLUB. NO TO JOHN GRUDEN. YES TO SATAN. 666
December 22nd, 2012 at 8:44 pm
4-12
December 22nd, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 7:01 am
Reggie has cancelled football season this year.
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this wasn’t clever the first time u said it.
December 22nd, 2012 at 8:45 pm
SLAYER Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 8:43 pm
ALLEN IS THE BEST COACH THE OAKLAND RAIDERS HAVE HAD SINCE TOM FLORES. TARVER AND KNAPP NEED MORE YEARS TOGETHER TO BUILD A DOMINATING CLUB. NO TO JOHN GRUDEN. YES TO SATAN. 666
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enjoy getting butt raped in hell by the devil when u realize he lied to u. go to church.
December 22nd, 2012 at 8:49 pm
Can’t believe how bad the Lions have played. 4-11
December 22nd, 2012 at 8:50 pm
slyer–i know ur life has sucked and ur angry and trying this for a defense mechanism. but it’s not God’s fault all that stuff happened to u. it’s actually the devil’s and he’s laughing at u for not seeing it. hate and anger isn’t gonna get u anywhere. let it go. turn to God. u will be MUCH happier.
December 22nd, 2012 at 8:50 pm
Jon Gruden said it best…
Rice setting the record that time, they were winning most games, they didn’t pass the ball a lot.
Megatron’s record, tarnished a bit, Lions not winning, Stafford throwing 50 times a game, garbage time, “meaningless yards”.
December 22nd, 2012 at 8:51 pm
raiders 24
panther 13
December 22nd, 2012 at 8:51 pm
GG Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 8:50 pm
Jon Gruden said it best…
Rice setting the record that time, they were winning most games, they didn’t pass the ball a lot.
Megatron’s record, tarnished a bit, Lions not winning, Stafford throwing 50 times a game, garbage time, “meaningless yards”.
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they’re both great. doesn’t matter.
December 22nd, 2012 at 8:53 pm
Who gives a rip about strength of schedule:
We sucked this year, last year, the before that…repeat as necessary.
December 22nd, 2012 at 8:58 pm
We did not win the division this year because:
Denver has Peyton Manning, we have Carson Palmer;
Denver has Von Miller, Dummervill, and Bailey, we have Kelly Shaughnessy, and Bartell,
Denver has an experienced playoff winning HC, we have a rookie head coach.
December 22nd, 2012 at 9:01 pm
One draft need: a punt returner!
December 22nd, 2012 at 9:03 pm
dr_robert Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 8:40 pm
SLAYER Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 5:34 pm
ESPN…JOHN GRUDEN IS A D-BAG. ALLEN AND KNAPP AND TARVER DESERVE AT LEAST ANOTHER YEAR,…AT LEAST. GO RAIDERS AND HAIL SATAN. 666
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spoken like a true idiot. anyone who thinks the devil is their friend is a moron. and he probably thinks he’s “scary”. ooohhhhh. big deal====
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I’ve come to realize something.
Does’nt matter who posts under wht name.
Doesn’t matter what they say. Could be the dumbest comment in the world all designed to see if some doorknob will bite.
And you always bite.
Every single time.
Every….single….time.
and what’s funny is reading your replies you seem to actually buy into every comment, like the one above.
December 22nd, 2012 at 9:04 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 8:58 pm
We did not win the division this year because:
Denver has Peyton Manning, we have Carson Palmer;
Denver has Von Miller, Dummervill, and Bailey, we have Kelly Shaughnessy, and Bartell,
Denver has an experienced playoff winning HC, we have a rookie head coach.
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So what you’re saying is they are a better team?
And you finally realized this???
December 22nd, 2012 at 9:06 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 9:01 pm
One draft need: a punt returner!
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Answer: Denard Robinson (Mich QB)
December 22nd, 2012 at 9:07 pm
Raiders for life Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 7:39 pm
I have a question.
Why do some folks think that the team has quit on DA?
I’m not seeing that.
Guess we will find out more tomorrow.
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Ignorant comments from the Racist Three. (priest, mistic, Kell-the-Snitch)
Players don’t quit on coaches. Players know their future on any team depends on how they play, especially when the team is down. No GM will sign a player that quits on a team.
Only a total idiot would state that the team “quit”.
December 22nd, 2012 at 9:11 pm
Raiders for life Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 7:39 pm
I have a question.
Why do some folks think that the team has quit on DA?
I’m not seeing that.
Guess we will find out more tomorrow.
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Ignorant comments from the Racist Three. (priest, mistic, Kell-the-Snitch)
Players don’t quit on coaches. Players know their future on any team depends on how they play, especially when the team is down. No GM will sign a player that quits on a team.
Only a total idiot would state that the team “quit”.
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Don’t forget. Walker wanted to quit, and give Al back his signing bonus. He knew he was done.
Al, in damage control because of his FA spending that was being laughed at, talked Javon out of quitting, and insisted he keep the money.
So, Javon went to the bank. Smiling.
And is still smiling to this day.
December 22nd, 2012 at 9:16 pm
Los Raida Locos Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 9:07 pm
Raiders for life Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 7:39 pm
I have a question.
Why do some folks think that the team has quit on DA?
I’m not seeing that.
Guess we will find out more tomorrow.
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Ignorant comments from the Racist Three. (priest, mistic, Kell-the-Snitch)
Players don’t quit on coaches. Players know their future on any team depends on how they play, especially when the team is down. No GM will sign a player that quits on a team.
Only a total idiot would state that the team “quit”.
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Dude, I know your not the real Raida Locos. He only bagged on DA and Knapp, like me. But I’ve let go of the hate bro. Feel the love, share the love. Com’on people now, shine on your brother, everybody get together and try to love one another right now. Right now.
December 22nd, 2012 at 9:16 pm
Players do quit if they feel they hate the coach, the team, the direction of the regime, and want out, prefer to be signed by another team.
Plenty of examples of players quitting. Moss for example.
December 22nd, 2012 at 9:17 pm
dr_robert Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 7:01 am
Reggie has cancelled football season this year.
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this wasn’t clever the first time u said it.
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I take that back bro. That’s awesome.
December 22nd, 2012 at 9:18 pm
GG Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 9:16 pm
Players do quit if they feel they hate the coach, the team, the direction of the regime, and want out, prefer to be signed by another team.
Plenty of examples of players quitting. Moss for example.
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I agree. DA needs to spread some love, like John Wooten.
December 22nd, 2012 at 9:18 pm
Highest Rated QBs since Week 11…
1. Cam Newton
2. Russell Wilson
3. Colin Kaepernick
4. Tom Brady
New Wave
December 22nd, 2012 at 9:22 pm
Panthers 41
Raiders (3 FGs)
December 22nd, 2012 at 9:24 pm
Sup Dawgs. Just out doin the partay thing with my fine broads. Textin from my iphone. It’s cool.
Sent from my iPhone.
December 22nd, 2012 at 9:24 pm
Serious question…
If we consider Knapp a goner. But Reggie/Allen wanting to maintain the WCO. What current OC’s or current position coaches from a WCO background, that Reggie/Allen could hire for next season?
We’d have to assume they’d want to continue the WCO offense as they’ve been teaching that system, and one thing that can be said of the regime, is they’re after continuity come hell or highwater.
Obviously, if we could Norv Turner at OC, and go back to a vertical offense. But do you think Reggie/Allen are that apt to making a drastic change? They’re not the types who’ve shown that yet.
So, just for this hypothetical Q&A, focus on WCO proponents.
December 22nd, 2012 at 9:26 pm
GG Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 9:24 pm
Serious question…
If we consider Knapp a goner. But Reggie/Allen wanting to maintain the WCO. What current OC’s or current position coaches from a WCO background, that Reggie/Allen could hire for next season?
We’d have to assume they’d want to continue the WCO offense as they’ve been teaching that system, and one thing that can be said of the regime, is they’re after continuity come hell or highwater.
Obviously, if we could Norv Turner at OC, and go back to a vertical offense. But do you think Reggie/Allen are that apt to making a drastic change? They’re not the types who’ve shown that yet.
So, just for this hypothetical Q&A, focus on WCO proponents.
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Gruden. Come hell or high water, and we gettin both, got to be Gruden.
December 22nd, 2012 at 9:37 pm
If the game against KC was a toilet bowl, does this game merit a laundry tub game? How bout a bowel bowl game? Not much really at stake here. Bragging rights perhaps. Newton legacy? DA legacy? Is the game even going to have a camera crew there?
December 22nd, 2012 at 9:43 pm
NO MO COACHIN’ CHANGES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!…ALLEN AND KNAPP AND TARVER MUST RETURN,…MUST…NO MO COACHIN’ CHANGES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!….SHUT YO MOUTH BOUT JOHN GRUDEN. 666
December 22nd, 2012 at 9:48 pm
Did you know 666 isn’t even the number of the beast. It’s something else, wonder if you know what it is.
December 22nd, 2012 at 9:53 pm
511,
What is it GG?
December 22nd, 2012 at 9:56 pm
Lol…the beast is really only Nero.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_the_Beast
All these metal heads and satanists etc really only celebrating some long dead Roman Emperor.
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December 22nd, 2012 at 10:00 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 9:53 pm
511,
What is it GG?
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http://newstalkkit.com/files/2012/07/Marshawn-Lynch.jpg
December 22nd, 2012 at 10:03 pm
Which, in reverse, is the answer to life, the universe and everything.
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
December 22nd, 2012 at 10:09 pm
Go Lakers!
December 22nd, 2012 at 10:14 pm
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
JFB?????
EastOak????
Whut happened?
December 22nd, 2012 at 10:14 pm
Fcck the warriors couldnt finish it. alot of young talent though going against HALL OF FAMERS.
Warriors are young and exciting. More then the Raiders could say.
btw hope pryor plays alot tommorow and takes one to the house on a READ…OPTION!!
December 22nd, 2012 at 10:16 pm
Lakers!!!!!
December 22nd, 2012 at 10:22 pm
Man, this blog is junk tonight. Oh, and pay Gruden whatever it takes…..RAIDERS!!
December 22nd, 2012 at 10:22 pm
http://raidernationtimes.com/article.php?id=9510
Mark Davis:
The odds of Mark Davis selling his control over the Raiders before they play a meaningful game in 2013 is next to zero. Reggie McKenzie and Dennis Allen might as well be Matt Damon and Greg Kinnear (movie: Stuck On You) because they’re conjoined twins (for the moment).
Mark Davis may be as disgusted with the performance of the team as the rest of Raider Nation; However, that being said I don’t believe that he’s sooo disgusted that he’s ready to fire Reggie McKenzie. Firing McKenzie at this point would only facilitate Mr. Davis beginning a new general manager search; He may be disgusted, but he ain’t THAT disgusted.
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Reggie McKenzie:
As I stated, I don’t believe that Mark Davis is ready to fire Reggie McKenzie. In conjunction with that I don’t believe (at this point) that Reggie McKenzie is ready to fire Dennis Allen. Feel how you want about Hue Jackson, and his tenure as head coach; The facts are that the team scored more points, gave up fewer points, and won more games under Hue Jackson as a rookie head coach then they have under Dennis Allen. Let’s also remember that Dennis Allen had the benefit of a full off season, training camp, and pre season to implement his system; Hue Jackson had to deal with a lock out.
Reggie McKenzie made it clear (to everyone) that it was his decision to fire Hue Jackson. It was his (Reggie McKenzie) decision to hire Dennis Allen, and allow him (Allen) to hire his own coaching staff (which currently includes Greg Knapp). If Reggie McKenzie were to fire Dennis Allen right now it would probably make him look like a fool; For having hired Dennis Allen as head coach is the first place.
For that reason alone (as far as I’m concerned) McKenzie will have Allen back, at least for one more season. McKenzie may appear to be the fool, if he fires Allen after one dismal season; He would however look shall we say – slightly more attractive – if he were to fire Allen after two.
McKenzie needs to focus on proving he is what we think he is (and need him to be). A man who can recognize, and find talent; Not just NFL talent, I’m talking about players who can thrive wearing the silver and black of our beloved Raiders!
Losing record, or not playing for the Oakland Raiders is not like playing for, let’s say — the Arizona Cardinals (just to pick a team out of the air). The Raiders need to have certain types of players in certain positions. Reggie McKenzie should understand this; Now he needs to prove, not only that he understands, but that he can (and will) get the job done.
I don’t want to hear about draft picks and cap space. You want a “reason” for being held back?!? Try slavery. Now that’s a – reason. No high draft picks, and cap space restraints are nothing more than excuses for losing. The truly talented general managers thrive under any circumstances. A general manager with half a brain should be able to build a team, if they have a fist full of draft picks in one hand and a fist full of cash in the other. I need McKenzie to prove that he’s above average. This draft class should give Raider Nation a good indication whether or not Reggie can recognize the not so obvious diamonds that are in every draft class, and restore our Raiders.
Again, what are we? The Arizona Cardinals?!? (not picking on the red birds) We don’t think “inside the box.” We know that – there is no box (borrowing a bit from The Matrix).
I’m expecting, despite the draft and salary situation for McKenzie to be able to find a few “Raiders” to add to Oakland’s roster. Reggie McKenzie (I believe) has the opportunity to make a statement as General Manager of the Raiders. However, in order for that to happen there are certain things he must do, and he must avoid.
Beginning with the later, McKenzie must avoid being linked to losing. If Allen is unable to correct his own ship McKenzie will have no choice but to sink it; Or watch his own ship sink right along with that of Allen.
The next pitfall McKenzie must avoid is a two headed beast. One head is the dreaded Draft Day Mistake (see Robert Gallery for reference).The other head belongs to the Expensive Free Agent Bust (I know that we have some questions at quarterback but the last thing we need is to bring in a Mark Sanchez).
McKenzie has pretty much gutted the Raider roster. Before the season began he had to have changed at least 26 out of the 53 players the Raiders had on the roster. However, that roster change has not produced positive results on the field of play. This will be the Raider first losing season since 2009.
It’s going to be important for him to not develop a foundation based upon losing. He’s going to need to draft well, and find the proper free agents to play Raider Football.
I would look for McKenzie to continue to draft defense; You could see a Jarvis Jones, defensive end for Georgia join the Raiders roster (we do need someone to rush, and sack the quarterback). You could also see Manti Te’o the linebacker from Norte Dame (The Raiders do need leadership at this position). Also don’t be surprised if Kyle Long, son of Raider legend Howie Long joins the team. Kyle is not a defensive player, however he is an offensive lineman (another area the Raiders could use an upgrade at), and he is a legacy player (We didn’t have a change to draft Jake Long — so don’t be surprised if we pick up Kyle).
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Dennis Allen:
In my opinion 2013 needs to be: The Year Of Dennis Allen. It goes without saying that I’ll be watching to see the new McKenzie acquisitions; Remember McKenzie has entirely rebuilt the Raiders professional and college scouting teams. However, Allen’s job is to – as we say: coach em’ up! The first thing that I need confirmed is that Dennis Allen knows defense. As you’re reading my words our defense is ranked no better than 21st against the run and 27th against the pass. Moreover, the Raiders defense has played games in which they’ve allowed their opponent to score 42, 55, and 38 points!!
I’m aware of the fact that our defensive line acts as though their allergic to quarterbacks. We have questions at line backer. We have cover corners, minus the cover, and un-safe safeties. However, as I stated Dennis Allen’s job is to coach em’ up!! The first word that comes to mind, pertaining to what I’ve seen of the Raiders game plans this season from week to week is: SUSPECT.
Allen’s in game, and half time adjustment are virtually nonexistent, and the adjustments that have been made, for the most part have been unsuccessful; See the “long snapper game” if you have any questions. Too often this season the Raiders have looked not only over matched but unprepared, and that unprepared part has to do with the coaching.
Speaking of coaching, Reggie McKenzie gave Dennis Allen the power to assemble his own staff. What that means is that Dennis Allen, not Reggie McKenzie is to blame for Raider Nation being forced to suffer through Greg Knapp part II. Comparing the 2012 Raiders offensive production with that of the 2013 team is like comparing Jessica Alba to a hobbit; In other words: There is no comparison. Furthermore, let’s not forget that it was Dennis Allen’s idea to hire Jason Tarver to run the defense (instead of doing it himself).
As I stated, when discussing the General Manager it doesn’t really take talent to coach a team filled with pro bowl type players; After all there are gentlemen like Barry Switzer walking around with Super Bowl rings on their fingers — that really belong to someone else (Raider Nation’s John Gruden is another one of these gentlemen). Conversely we’ve all seen teams bring in a head coach and that gentleman, just by his presence and game planning boost the teams win total!! Dennis Allen needs to prove that he’s that type of head coach.
2013, I need to see Dennis Allen run this team and show Raider Nation that he has some real passion!! I’m also expecting Allen to make some changes to his coaching staff. Specifically, I can’t see him bringing back Greg Knapp as Raider offensive coordinator. The question is will he bring in someone with former head coaching experience? (might be a challenge to his authority?) This would probably be in the best interest of the Raiders, but I’m not too sure if Allen is going to be willing to hire someone McKenzie could use as his replacement.
December 22nd, 2012 at 10:24 pm
Jon Gruden isnt coming to the Raiders till its announced!
December 22nd, 2012 at 10:30 pm
anyone seen beech dawg? he must be blowing some random dude. he does that from time to time
December 22nd, 2012 at 10:31 pm
GG Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 10:03 pm
Which, in reverse, is the answer to life, the universe and everything.
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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lOL.
December 22nd, 2012 at 10:42 pm
521,
GG,
Nice post. I enjoyed it.
December 22nd, 2012 at 10:45 pm
The question is will he bring in someone with former head coaching experience? (might be a challenge to his authority?) This would probably be in the best interest of the Raiders, but I’m not too sure if Allen is going to be willing to hire someone McKenzie could use as his replacement.
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That will be one of the big problems keeping DA around. I don’t think he has the confidence to bring in a OC or DC that have head coaching experience or could be considered a HC in the near future. Because of this we have to either grab some experienced POS who has proved not to work (Knapp) or a shot in the dark young coordinator with 0 NFL coordinating experience (Tarver).
December 22nd, 2012 at 10:47 pm
Just wondering if the Raids offense can put up more than FGs.
December 22nd, 2012 at 10:50 pm
I liked this bit from the article probably the most…
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A general manager with half a brain should be able to build a team, if they have a fist full of draft picks in one hand and a fist full of cash in the other. I need McKenzie to prove that he’s above average. This draft class should give Raider Nation a good indication whether or not Reggie can recognize the not so obvious diamonds that are in every draft class, and restore our Raiders.
December 22nd, 2012 at 10:51 pm
For that reason alone (as far as I’m concerned) McKenzie will have Allen back, at least for one more season. McKenzie may appear to be the fool, if he fires Allen after one dismal season; He would however look shall we say – slightly more attractive – if he were to fire Allen after two.
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So in other words Reggie is willing to tank another year to save face? This sucks man.
December 22nd, 2012 at 10:53 pm
SouthEast Raider Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 10:51 pm
For that reason alone (as far as I’m concerned) McKenzie will have Allen back, at least for one more season. McKenzie may appear to be the fool, if he fires Allen after one dismal season; He would however look shall we say – slightly more attractive – if he were to fire Allen after two.
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So in other words Reggie is willing to tank another year to save face? This sucks man.
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I wouldn’t doubt it. Reggie seems to be that type of guy who strategically lines up his excuses to save face.
December 22nd, 2012 at 10:57 pm
Al Davis — better to be right than consistent.
Reggie might want to ponder on those words and grow a pair…re: coaching staff changes, recognizing mistakes one has made oneself, and fixing them, instead of worrying more about one’s profile.
Remember, Reggie must know that his OWN job security is in jeopardy if he continues to lose, which bad coaching hires will do. Surely he’s not that stupid to not realize he cannot marry himself to “year one” coaches just to show a face of continuity, if he truly thinks they’re regressing the team and are constantly out-coached and out-prepared by 90% of the opposition.
December 22nd, 2012 at 10:58 pm
Back-N-Black Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 8:30 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 9:17 am
Back-N-Black Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 9:00 am
What if the Raiders finish the year with wins at Carolina and San Diego?
Raiders finish 6-10… only 2 games off the pace of last year’s 8-8 team while installing new front office, new coaching staff, new schemes on offense and defense, turning over half the roster, and a harder schedule.
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***CORRECTION***
Harder schedule?
2012 opposing teams winning percentage -> .455
2011 opposing teams winning percentage -> .504
2012 opposing teams at or above .500 -> 6
2011 opposing teams at or above .500 -> 10
FALSE
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7 games against playoff teams from last year – Steelers, Ravens, Broncos (2), Saints, Bengals, Falcons
4 of those on the road
Miami – who beat us last year – East coast game following a Monday night game
Final 2 on the road
Last year – 6 games against playoff teams from the year before – Only 2 of those on the road
2 of final 3 games at home
Played a Bears team with backup QB and a Vikings team without Peterson(for the most part)
Played a Broncos team with Tebow starting(and somehow still lost!!!!)
So I would consider this year a harder schedule.
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7 games against playoff teams from last year? LMAO. The hell are you talking about, dude? And we had 8 wins last year. Has nothing to do with this year. We suck now. And so do those “playoff teams from last year”. lol
So you reject my cold hard facts and insert your conjecture and opinion. LMFAO! Get a load of you. Who cares what you think. Facts are facts. We had a tougher schedule LAST YEAR! The standings don’t lie, friend! That’s not my opinion. It’s fact.
and the more you look at it, the worse it looks. 5 wins against teams .500 or better last year. This year? ……1
December 22nd, 2012 at 11:02 pm
The DA excuse makers are hilarious. We played 7 playoff teams from “last year”. LOL!
December 22nd, 2012 at 11:03 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 10:58 pm
Back-N-Black Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 8:30 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 9:17 am
Back-N-Black Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 9:00 am
What if the Raiders finish the year with wins at Carolina and San Diego?
Raiders finish 6-10… only 2 games off the pace of last year’s 8-8 team while installing new front office, new coaching staff, new schemes on offense and defense, turning over half the roster, and a harder schedule.
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Harder schedule?
2012 opposing teams winning percentage -> .455
2011 opposing teams winning percentage -> .504
2012 opposing teams at or above .500 -> 6
2011 opposing teams at or above .500 -> 10
FALSE
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7 games against playoff teams from last year – Steelers, Ravens, Broncos (2), Saints, Bengals, Falcons
4 of those on the road
Miami – who beat us last year – East coast game following a Monday night game
Final 2 on the road
Last year – 6 games against playoff teams from the year before – Only 2 of those on the road
2 of final 3 games at home
Played a Bears team with backup QB and a Vikings team without Peterson(for the most part)
Played a Broncos team with Tebow starting(and somehow still lost!!!!)
So I would consider this year a harder schedule.
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7 games against playoff teams from last year? LMAO. The hell are you talking about, dude? And we had 8 wins last year. Has nothing to do with this year. We suck now. And so do those “playoff teams from last year”. lol
So you reject my cold hard facts and insert your conjecture and opinion. LMFAO! Get a load of you. Who cares what you think. Facts are facts. We had a tougher schedule LAST YEAR! The standings don’t lie, friend! That’s not my opinion. It’s fact.
and the more you look at it, the worse it looks. 5 wins against teams .500 or better last year. This year? ……1
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Also, why is Back-N-Black determining strength of schedule based on PREVIOUS year’s results? That is something you do in preseason.
Bottom line: We were competitive two straight years at 8-8, this year a laughing stock. Agreed results don’t lie.
December 22nd, 2012 at 11:04 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 11:02 pm
The DA excuse makers are hilarious. We played 7 playoff teams from “last year”. LOL!
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If you compare this year’s schedule to 1993’s results, this year we have a much harder schedule
December 22nd, 2012 at 11:05 pm
LOL
December 22nd, 2012 at 11:08 pm
We made some sorry azz teams look like world beaters this year and the excuse makers want us to use last year’s results to gauge our competition this year. I tell ya, you just can’t make this sh1t up.
December 22nd, 2012 at 11:17 pm
Back-N-Black Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 9:00 am
What if the Raiders finish the year with wins at Carolina and San Diego?
Raiders finish 6-10… only 2 games off the pace of last year’s 8-8 team while installing new front office, new coaching staff, new schemes on offense and defense, turning over half the roster, and a harder schedule.
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Part of the argument is assuming we are gonna finish 6-10.
THAT is a pretty big assumption. The three game winning streak IF it comes would have come against 3 LOSING teams whichever way u slice it.
IF …we were to win these next two it would be something to hang your hat on imo, but we’re 8.5 pt. underdogs this week and sure to be underdogs at SD as well, so this 6-10 is far from being a done deal.
December 22nd, 2012 at 11:20 pm
It’s incredibly disconcerting that Allen/Knapp tried so hard to gloat about the Chiefs win. The Chiefs were tanking for a higher pick. Only ran Charles 10 times. Didn’t try to win, could’ve kicked 3 FGs themselves.
Lucky against Jags — officials awarded us a dodgy DPI. Without it, we lose that game.
Our first Chiefs win was legit, but we’re talking about the worst team in the NFL.
Fluked a win against a Steelers team missing key players.
That’s the extent of it.
Every game we’ve had someone put up career stats against us.
If Reggie were for real, he’d fire Allen and hire Gruden himself.
December 22nd, 2012 at 11:22 pm
Let Allen go somewhere else and play HC Intern.
December 22nd, 2012 at 11:24 pm
Remember folks, when we got our azzes handed to us by New Orleans, we weren’t really losing to the 6-8 Saints of 2012. No sir, you have to look at their record from LAST year. So we really lost to the 13-3 Saints from 2011, it’s just that we played the game in 2012. LOL!
Thank you, Back-N-Black. This has been amusing.
December 22nd, 2012 at 11:26 pm
GG Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 11:20 pm
It’s incredibly disconcerting that Allen/Knapp tried so hard to gloat about the Chiefs win. The Chiefs were tanking for a higher pick. Only ran Charles 10 times. Didn’t try to win, could’ve kicked 3 FGs themselves.
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This is obvious to everyone except the Double Agent and his excuse makers.
December 22nd, 2012 at 11:26 pm
GG,
I see what you’re syaing, but for me personally i’m not gonna discount any wins from this yr. since i’ve been sticking up for all the wins from last yr. in response to guys saying “it wasn’t real” or it was “a mirage” so in fairness i’m fine with giving the DA fans their wins and going with the “you are what your record says you are” stance.
4-10 is bad enough. Lol.
December 22nd, 2012 at 11:36 pm
I have been teetering on the DA issue. Part of me wants to see some continuity at HC as firing our HC every yr. has been a source and sign of dysfunction and embarrassment for Raider fans; which is why I didn’t even want Cable fired..and then Hue after that, but what’s worse. Going more seasons at 3-13 4-12 or 5-11, or keep doing it till we get it right?
It’s a conundrum.
I’m not at all pleased with what we did this season that’s for sure.
December 22nd, 2012 at 11:37 pm
#543…
That’s also a good argument. Good approach to winning the debate.
#542 also happens to be a good argument, a good approach to winning the debate
Ie, either way you look at it, there’s no way anyone can defend Allen and his record. Whatsoever.
December 22nd, 2012 at 11:42 pm
545,
Absolutely not. I agree. I’d rather hear “Yes, this looks bad and there’s not much we can say to defend DA for this horrible season, but i think he should have another yr. because i think he’ll learn from his mistakes and we’ll get better”.
It’s much more palatable than trying to sell this disaster of a season as BETTER than the previous 2 seasons, or that DA has really improved the team despite the record.
December 22nd, 2012 at 11:53 pm
#546
Exactly. That’s what’s troubling. That’s exactly the heart of the matter. Not just Allen/Knapp/Reggie supporters deflecting the reality, deflecting blame from themselves. But Reggie/Allen/Knapp have been doing that too…blaming players, blaming previous regime, blaming other coaching elements inside the organization. And trying to pull the wool over astute fans and shill beat writers, by suggesting that they weren’t trying to win and make playoffs, or they didn’t really believe they would win and make playoffs.
Which is hogwash. If you look at Reggie’s transactions, and Allen’s hires and starting personnel (and who hasnt been played)…they’ve been trying to field the best team, been trying to win, restructuring contracts to retain certain vet players, etc.
This 4-12 season, with a lot of broken franchise records for patheticness, was this regime GENUINELY trying to win now lol.
December 23rd, 2012 at 3:17 am
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December 23rd, 2012 at 4:04 am
so some idiot spends all his time jacking my handle and “spreading love”. what’s the point? why not just do it under ur own alias? why try to get people to believe i’m doing it? are u somehow hurting me by pretending to be all lovey dovey? i like the sentiment, but apparently, he’s trying to say i’m usually mean. i am. but only to jackazzes. so what could be gained? making me look nicer? weird.
December 23rd, 2012 at 4:07 am
Los Raida Locos Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 9:03 pm
dr_robert Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 8:40 pm
SLAYER Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 5:34 pm
ESPN…JOHN GRUDEN IS A D-BAG. ALLEN AND KNAPP AND TARVER DESERVE AT LEAST ANOTHER YEAR,…AT LEAST. GO RAIDERS AND HAIL SATAN. 666
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spoken like a true idiot. anyone who thinks the devil is their friend is a moron. and he probably thinks he’s “scary”. ooohhhhh. big deal====
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I’ve come to realize something.
Does’nt matter who posts under wht name.
Doesn’t matter what they say. Could be the dumbest comment in the world all designed to see if some doorknob will bite.
And you always bite.
Every single time.
Every….single….time.
and what’s funny is reading your replies you seem to actually buy into every comment, like the one above.
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i like making fun of idiots who are here to cause trouble. u have never engaged me in conversation so what do u care?
December 25th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
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December 28th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
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Week 2: R8eray: Dolphins 20 Raiders 13 (35/13)
Week 3: Plunketthead Raiders 30 Steelers 27 (34/31) R
Week 4: Amysincharge: Denver 48-7 (37-6)
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