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Seymour out for Sunday’s game, says he’s still ‘elite’ player

Defensive tackle Richard Seymour won’t play Sunday against the Carolina Panthers. It’s possible that he has played his final game of the 2012 season, but he still has a desire to play beyond this season.
Seymour said Friday that the high hamstring injury he suffered against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers on Nov. 4 has caused a lot of frustration and disappointment because he isn’t able to help on the field.
“I definitely wanted to gut it out,” Seymour said, “but it isn’t a situation where you can, you can’t gut a hamstring out. It isn’t like you can tape a shoulder up or tape an elbow, or one of those deals. A hamstring, it ain’t like you can say, OK. It’s totally different from that standpoint.
“But one of the most disappointing things for me is, being a team leader and not being out there with my teammates. That’s the most disappointing part because I bleed silver and black.”
Along those lines, Seymour was asked if he wants to re-sign with the Raiders after this season. He is an unrestricted free agent after this season and free to negotiate with any of the league’s 32 teams.
“In terms of my future, we’re still in the season and, I guess, when that time comes, we’ll cross that bridge then,” Seymour said. “Like I said, I bleed silver and black. From that standpoint, we’ll see what happens when that time comes. For now, I’ll continue to lead and support my teammates.”
Seymour is in his 12th NFL season. In his prime, he commanded double-teams and oftentimes dominated at the line of scrimmage, freeing up teammates in one-on-one situations and making those around him better.
Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie had the option of cutting Seymour this past offseason and sending him on his way with $7.5 million guaranteed. Instead, McKenzie and Seymour worked out a restructured contract that kept Seymour in the mix.
Now, McKenzie has tape of the eight games Seymour played, as well as that from Seymour’s first 11 seasons, to gauge whether it’s worth bringing back Seymour.
Seymour is convinced that he still has the ability to play at a high level.
“When healthy, I still play at an elite level,” Seymour said. “That’s one of the things that, the film speaks for itself.”

– Allen said Phillip Adams is healthy and ready to go for Sunday’s game. That means Adams will start at cornerback and also return punts.
Adams suffered his second concussion of the season last Sunday. Yet, he passed all the league-mandated tests for players that suffer concussions and has been cleared to play.

– The Raiders have 25 players that are potential free agents after this season. Seventeen of those are unrestricted free agents, meaning they can sign anywhere they please, short of the Raiders placing the franchise tag on one of them.
Allen said he and his coaching staff are paying close attention to how their players perform down the stretch, at a time when some players are prone to going through the motions, given the playoffs no longer are part of the equation.
“Oh, yeah, we’re looking at that,” Allen said. “That’s part of the evaluation process. I’ve already stated that, we’ve got to look at guys as we move forward to see what we’re going to do in the future and, obviously, we’ve got two more games to get an opportunity to look at them.”
Beyond that, Allen said, he expects the same kind of effort from his players every game, regardless the situation.
“My hope is that they’re playing football because they love playing the game of football, and they enjoy doing what they do for a living, and that’s just who they are,” Allen said. “They’re not playing necessarily for contracts, they’re playing because that’s what’s deep down inside their soul. That’s what I see, but I can’t speak for everybody.”

– Strong safety Tyvon Branch is at less than 100 percent heading into the Panthers game. A pain-killing shot helped him make it through the Chiefs game last Sunday.
Allen said he expects Branch to play this Sunday, just knowing how tough and dedicated Branch has been all season.
“He had to take a shot to help him make it through the game,” Allen said, “and anytime you do that, you’re a little more sore when you come back. He’s a warrior, though. He’s a battler. He’s a fighter. He’s going to be out there if he can.”

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    All I want for Christmas is to be in a Flashmob with my team. During the game. On tv. That would be dope
    =========================================================

    A flash mob (or flashmob) is a group of people who assemble suddenly in a public place, perform an unusual and unexpected act…
    Fill in your own punchline…

  • J Hill

    Charlie,

    Kelly will be back. Bilikudi and Bryant too.

    Don’t think we are going to draft a DT.

    OL and DE I could see with our first 2 picks.

  • mcfadden20.

    Werner guy is ok, D Moore will make the most impact

  • mikeschoice

    the only thing elite @ seymour is his paycheck!!!
    never wanted to come here and is looking for one more idiot to overpay him. seymour, dhb, mcclain,lechler,and others will go and we can get some linemen and palyers that want to play.
    coaching isnt the issue. bill belechick couldnt get this squad to the playoffs-especially now that we have a legit team winning the division!

  • Al_is_theraiders

    bowe will look great running 5 yard outs…

  • Charlie

    JHill

    I agree that Kelly will be back. I simply think he is a backup being paid like an all pro.

    I believe we could have a decent Dline with an infusion of a top DT and the best DE we can get in round three.
    Bilikudi and Bryant are backups as well.

    I am a beliver that the Oline is the heart of our team but it will have to wait one more year as long as Bergstrom can fill in for Carlisle.

  • eastoaklandraider

    TK played at pro bowl level last year. TK reminds me of Moss he will only give his all if the team he plays for is in contention.

  • eastoaklandraider

    BTW what the hell happened to Albert Haynesorth the guy went from DPOY to out of the league? Talk about a fall from grace.

  • jesusraiderjim

    A flash mob (or flashmob) is a group of people who assemble suddenly in a public place, perform an unusual and unexpected act…
    Fill in your own punchline…

    ———————————————–
    Throwing a pass on 3rd and 9 that was over 5 yds.

    Getting a win.

    Gaiter making a tackle or assist.

    Knapp being creative.

    DA not looking clueless

    all flashmob worthy.

  • jesusraiderjim

    eastoaklandraider Says:
    December 22nd, 2012 at 12:36 pm
    BTW what the hell happened to Albert Haynesorth the guy went from DPOY to out of the league? Talk about a fall from grace.

    ——————————————

    Where I come from we call that
    FVCK around Lay around!!! Loser= Haynesworth

  • RaiderRetribution

    Only offensive FA, I think we should go after is Greg Jennings, still no out of whack contracts though.

  • papertiger418

    Maybe I’m having Javon Walker flashbacks, but I just have a feeling that as soon as we sign Jennings, his knee will flame out and we’ll be in the same position as we were before.

    I like the guy but I’m concerned about his durability.

  • papertiger418

    Crazy article about treachery in Detroit during the Scott Mitchell era:

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/22/lomas-brown-i-intentionally-missed-a-block-to-get-scott-mitchell-hurt/

    Who would’ve thought o-lineman could be so devious?

  • RaiderRetribution

    OLine, Nix could be the Xfactor, team and media have extremely quiet regarding his status. He has been on the 53 man roster the entire season and has been activated less often than Pryor.

    Could be the OT, OG, or C we’ve been needing to play with Vehldeer & Wisniewski.

  • Charlie

    East Oak

    That is why I can not stand big contracts for free agents. Alsmost never works out.

    Draft young hungry rookies with the salary cap and keep the best ones after four years.

    My recommendation of a DT then a DE with our first two picks could really upgrade the unit.

    New stud DT with Kelly, Bilikudi and Bryant makes a decent four man rotation.

    A new DE with Carter, Houston and Tollefson would be an upgrade as well.

    Obviously we need to nail both picks.

    Seymour and Shaugnessy are gone. NO VALUE WHAT SO EVER.

  • Charlie

    TalentxDurabilityxwork ethicxknowledge=producivity

    When one of the variables on the left equals 0, productivity equals 0.

    Seymour durability is 0. Productivity is 0.

    Elite!!!!! Bovine Droppings!!!!

    Same with McClain regarding work ethic.

  • papertiger418

    I have no doubt that Albert Haynesworth is angrily eating a hoagie at this very minute.

  • papertiger418

    [Talent x Discipline] / [Durability] = Productivity

    [Productivity + Cajones] x [Luck] = Greatness

  • rodn5yn

    To: Charlie Says:
    December 22nd, 2012 at 12:57 pm

    RM stated during his first press conference after he took the GM position, he believes in taking the best player on the board. That suggests taking the best player regardless of need.

    I think that player just might be Alabama’s MLB CJ Mosley (yes an inside linebacker that’s not Manti Te’o).

  • J Hill

    A 3rd rd DE???

    Would rather have the 1st rd player that is the best player at his position. BPA.

    I think the top Des will be gone when we pick.

    I think Star will be gone too.

  • tuckrulefool

    D1CK IS UNQUE$TIONABLY THE NFL’S HIGHE$T RATED CHECK CA$HER.

    D1CK’$ LOVE OF MONEY IS UNRIVALED.

  • rodn5yn

    Mikeschoice Says:
    December 22nd, 2012 at 12:22 pm
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    I agree, Seymour is done. However, it has more to do with health and desire to play than talent. He still dominates blockers. He’s always gets good penetration on run and pass plays.

    Watch film and you’ll see.

  • tuckrulefool

    No Offesne tehre Tiger but you might want to hit the math books.

    Having durability in the denominator aint gunna work.

    LOW numbers here = HIGH values. D1CK with his zer0 durability —-> INFINITY for productivity!

    LOL !

    papertiger418 Says:
    December 22nd, 2012 at 1:08 pm

    [Talent x Discipline] / [Durability] = Productivity

  • DJ Johnny

    Charlie,

    I don’t dispute that teams are built on the lines, but we are currently ranked as the # 9 OL in the league right now. I know stats can be deceiving.

    GB has the WORST Oline in the league (stat wise) and yet they just clinched the division and are a very good…if not great team. Obviously Aaron Rodgers has alot to do with that.

    If we are following the GB “model” going forward, I would look for Reggie to go after receivers WHO CAN CATCH the ball. GB is loaded at QB and receiver…just so darn dangerous.

    W/O an Aaron Rodgers…it’ll be interesting to see where Reggie goes with this.

    Our D line needs alot of help for sure.

  • DJ Johnny

    rodn5yn Says:
    December 22nd, 2012 at 1:16 pm
    Mikeschoice Says:
    December 22nd, 2012 at 12:22 pm
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    I agree, Seymour is done. However, it has more to do with health and desire to play than talent. He still dominates blockers. He’s always gets good penetration on run and pass plays.

    Watch film and you’ll see.

    But he doesn’t make the game changing impact you might hope for with a guy who’s paid like that.

    Where was he when Detroit was going 99 1/2 yd’s. Or when Buffalo was scoring TD’s on every posession the 2nd half of that game, or the last game with SD when we desperately needed SOMEONE…ANY FREAKING ONE to step up and make a play.

    If he was double or triple teamed than what can you do, but I don’t think he was…at least against SD. You know what he was….he was tired.

  • tuckrulefool

    SEY-LESS IS AN ELITE WINDE-BAGGE AT THIS POINT.

    BEING PAID HANDSOMELY FOR WHAT HE DID PRE-OAKLAND 4 YEARS+ AGO.

    ENOUGH WITH THE MULTI-YEAR FACADE.

    GOOD RIDDANCE.

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    Papertiger418 Says:
    December 22nd, 2012 at 1:08 pm

    [Talent x Discipline] / [Durability] = Productivity

    [Productivity + Cajones] x [Luck] = Greatness
    —————-
    I concur.

  • mcfadden20.

    D Moore ,trade up to get him

  • papertiger418

    Good call, Tuckrule! Math was never my strong suit. Maybe just multiply by the inverse instead?

  • jesusraiderjim

    Trade D Moore(Less) for D Moore, I think it could work!

  • mcfadden20.

    Only way Seymour comes back is if we bring him on veteran minimum contract with and only way to get him to play is if the contract is filled with incentives like he has to get certain number of sacks , tackles Etc etc go earn extra 2-3 million

  • RAIDERMAN99

    Didn’t Seymour fail to show for the non-mandatory OTAs ?

    Worked out on his own instead of under the supervision of the strength and conditioning coaches ?

    Not saying the pulled hammy and knee issues could have been avoided – but who knows ?

    Props to Sey for arriving with the rookies in the past and going into his own pocket to finance practices during the lockout – but we sure didn’t see that ‘leadership’ before the 2012 season commenced, did we ?

    Then you’re injured and unavailable virtually the entire season and still yapping about being a leader and still being elite ?

    Hilarious.

  • mcfadden20.

    Rich Seymour is probably still talented , but the desire doesn’t seem there ,I don’t know if he doesn’t care anymore or if he needs to be on a team that’s fighting for a championship , same with Kelly , he can dominate as well he just doesn’t bring it on every play , which is why my favorite player on D is L Houston , The dudes motor is going nonstop 150 MPH

  • mcfadden20.

    there are some exciting guys to build around , Streater, Houston Burris , wheeler , Adams Ross , Goodson and others

  • Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

    Scrubs.

  • DJ Johnny

    I agree McFadden20. I really like Adams. At first, that comical fumble against Baltimore had me thinking..”what kind of schlep is this?”, but he has definitely come on. He looks back at the ball and has the quickness to do that, and then still catch up to the receiver.

    He has a cockiness about him as well…I like the way he celebrates and seems genuinely into it.

  • DJ Johnny

    Is it just coincidence that the defense has played much better in the Denver game and KC games WITHOUT Seymour and McClain in the lineup?

  • Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

    Those guys are practice squad material on a playoff caliber team.

  • RaiderRetribution

    Would love to see Reggie trade up to draft Genooooooo!

  • Just Fire Baby

    Adams has a future as a CB, not so much as a punt returner

  • DJ Johnny

    RaiderRetribution Says:
    December 22nd, 2012 at 3:29 pm
    Would love to see Reggie trade up to draft Genooooooo!

    I don’t think he’ll need to trade up to get Geno.

  • DJ Johnny

    If it really is that a QB…franchise QB….would’ve brought us to 7-7 or 9-5 this year, as some have suggested, then that’s what we need.

    I don’t know if I believe that any other QB would’ve had us any better than what we are, but if i can be convinced of that then is a Geno Smith THAT type of guy?

    I don’t mean a guy that sits and learns on the bench and all that, i’m talking start from DAY ONE….like Luck and RG3 and others.

  • DJ Johnny

    I’m sorry. I take it back. It looks like KC will probably take Geno at # 1.

    No sense talking about it.

    My bad.

  • RaiderCrunch

    Oak28
    Car 10

  • Just Fire Baby

    J,

    Get ready to watch Dwight humiliate himself at the FT line tonight.

    Coach Jackson is a Hack-a-Howard subscriber.

    Kobe might just punch him in the head if he keeps missing them while the other team is fouling him intentionally.

  • Just Fire Baby

    I am not sure where I stand on Geno Smith.

    First off, he is a smart kid by all accounts, and his best skill is a much-needed skill, and that is his accuracy in the short to intermediate throws. Reminds me very much of Matt Ryan in that regard. Not a HUGE arm, but strong enough and deadly accurate on throws 30 yards and in.

    At the same time, he never really seemed comfortable against the best teams he played, is from Miami and seemed bothered by the cold (body language was like “WTF it is COLD!!!”) and is not a great athlete. Also never plays under center, and we see those issues popup sometimes with Tebow and even Kapy, who keep fumbling snaps. Never took many hits either.

    I wouldn’t mind if we drafted him, and I also wouldn’t mind if KC drafted him. He hoes have some bust-potential to him.

  • RaiderRetribution

    Raiders 28 Carolina zero;

    Second shut out in a row.

    Raiders could finish ahead of San Diego in the division.

    Raiders must defeat San Diego, see the pros and cons to defeating Carolina.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Raiders could finish ahead of San Diego in the division.

    ************************

    Hey, that would be the first time we finished better than 3rd in the division in 9 years!!!!

    Let’s go get it done. Progress

  • Stud Finder

    Jumpin lizards. How much better off would this team have been if we just woulda kept Coach Hue. We’ve been nuthin but bottom feeders and the future looks ugly with this current staff. Why would any player on this team want to risk injury for these coaches. Anybody who trashes what coulda been a good team needs a serious rectum examination. You really need to look deep, long and hard up the anus to see if they even got a clue.

  • RaiderRetribution

    Geno
    Jones
    Moore
    Te’o
    Two A&M OTs
    Miliner

    Raiders simply need to be in top seven picks in the draft to be assured of drafting one of these players.

    I must agree with you DJ, I don’t see the reason to move up to draft Geno, unless we are sold on him being the franchise qb.