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		<title>By: qodrn1</title>
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		<dc:creator>qodrn1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2012 23:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Raider Prediction Board

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Week 1: Alex7: Chargers 27 Raiders 20 (22/14)
Week 2: R8eray: Dolphins 20 Raiders 13 (35/13)
Week 3: Plunketthead Raiders 30 Steelers 27 (34/31) R
Week 4: Amysincharge: Denver 48-7 (37-6)
Week 5: Klas Tjorborn: Falcons 35 Raiders 20 (23/20)
Week 6: qodrn: Raiders 27 Jags 20 (26/23 OT) R
Week 7: raidermarty/VaRaiderNation Raiders 27 –
Chiefs 17 (26/16) R
Week 8: Bye Week.
Week 9: JONGRUDEN2012: Baltimore 47 Oakland 13
Week 10: GG: Saints 45 Raiders 17
Week 11: GG:  34-16 Panthers 
Week 12: backstageatapupptshow: Cleveland 27 Oakland 13 – reverse winner – Albert B. Paine 20/17
Week 13: Cork: Denver 33 Raiders 13 (26/13)
Week 14:  Plunketthead Raiders 25 Missouri 17 (15-0) R

 DKnight007 Says: Carolina 24 Raiders 10
 dr_robert Says: raiders 24 panther 13
 GG Says: Carolina 44 Oakland 17
 Mulligan44 Says: Panthers 41 Raiders (3 FGs)
 Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure:Raiders 38 Camolina 21
qodrn:  Raiders 27 Carolina 24
 RaiderCrunch Says: Oak28 Car 10
RaiderRetribution Says: Raiders 28 Carolina zero</description>
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<p>Dedicated to Al Davis, Raider duct tape (boy does it hold) and the Coliseum rodents</p>
<p>Week 1: Alex7: Chargers 27 Raiders 20 (22/14)<br />
Week 2: R8eray: Dolphins 20 Raiders 13 (35/13)<br />
Week 3: Plunketthead Raiders 30 Steelers 27 (34/31) R<br />
Week 4: Amysincharge: Denver 48-7 (37-6)<br />
Week 5: Klas Tjorborn: Falcons 35 Raiders 20 (23/20)<br />
Week 6: qodrn: Raiders 27 Jags 20 (26/23 OT) R<br />
Week 7: raidermarty/VaRaiderNation Raiders 27 –<br />
Chiefs 17 (26/16) R<br />
Week 8: Bye Week.<br />
Week 9: JONGRUDEN2012: Baltimore 47 Oakland 13<br />
Week 10: GG: Saints 45 Raiders 17<br />
Week 11: GG:  34-16 Panthers<br />
Week 12: backstageatapupptshow: Cleveland 27 Oakland 13 – reverse winner – Albert B. Paine 20/17<br />
Week 13: Cork: Denver 33 Raiders 13 (26/13)<br />
Week 14:  Plunketthead Raiders 25 Missouri 17 (15-0) R</p>
<p> DKnight007 Says: Carolina 24 Raiders 10<br />
 dr_robert Says: raiders 24 panther 13<br />
 GG Says: Carolina 44 Oakland 17<br />
 Mulligan44 Says: Panthers 41 Raiders (3 FGs)<br />
 Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure:Raiders 38 Camolina 21<br />
qodrn:  Raiders 27 Carolina 24<br />
 RaiderCrunch Says: Oak28 Car 10<br />
RaiderRetribution Says: Raiders 28 Carolina zero</p>
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		<title>By: Metal Collar Stays Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Metal Collar Stays Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2012 21:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dr_robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>dr_robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 12:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Los Raida Locos Says: 
December 22nd, 2012 at 9:03 pm
dr_robert Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 8:40 pm

SLAYER Says:
December 22nd, 2012 at 5:34 pm
ESPN…JOHN GRUDEN IS A D-BAG. ALLEN AND KNAPP AND TARVER DESERVE AT LEAST ANOTHER YEAR,…AT LEAST. GO RAIDERS AND HAIL SATAN. 666
*************

spoken like a true idiot. anyone who thinks the devil is their friend is a moron. and he probably thinks he’s “scary”. ooohhhhh. big deal====
=====================
I’ve come to realize something.
Does’nt matter who posts under wht name.
Doesn’t matter what they say. Could be the dumbest comment in the world all designed to see if some doorknob will bite.
And you always bite.
Every single time.

Every….single….time.

and what’s funny is reading your replies you seem to actually buy into every comment, like the one above.
***********

i like making fun of idiots who are here to cause trouble.  u have never engaged me in conversation so what do u care?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Los Raida Locos Says:<br />
December 22nd, 2012 at 9:03 pm<br />
dr_robert Says:<br />
December 22nd, 2012 at 8:40 pm</p>
<p>SLAYER Says:<br />
December 22nd, 2012 at 5:34 pm<br />
ESPN…JOHN GRUDEN IS A D-BAG. ALLEN AND KNAPP AND TARVER DESERVE AT LEAST ANOTHER YEAR,…AT LEAST. GO RAIDERS AND HAIL SATAN. 666<br />
*************</p>
<p>spoken like a true idiot. anyone who thinks the devil is their friend is a moron. and he probably thinks he’s “scary”. ooohhhhh. big deal====<br />
=====================<br />
I’ve come to realize something.<br />
Does’nt matter who posts under wht name.<br />
Doesn’t matter what they say. Could be the dumbest comment in the world all designed to see if some doorknob will bite.<br />
And you always bite.<br />
Every single time.</p>
<p>Every….single….time.</p>
<p>and what’s funny is reading your replies you seem to actually buy into every comment, like the one above.<br />
***********</p>
<p>i like making fun of idiots who are here to cause trouble.  u have never engaged me in conversation so what do u care?</p>
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		<title>By: dr_robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>dr_robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 12:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so some idiot spends all his time jacking my handle and &quot;spreading love&quot;.  what&#039;s the point?  why not just do it under ur own alias?  why try to get people to believe i&#039;m doing it?  are u somehow hurting me by pretending to be all lovey dovey?  i like the sentiment, but apparently, he&#039;s trying to say i&#039;m usually mean.  i am.  but only to jackazzes.  so what could be gained?  making me look nicer?  weird.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so some idiot spends all his time jacking my handle and &#8220;spreading love&#8221;.  what&#8217;s the point?  why not just do it under ur own alias?  why try to get people to believe i&#8217;m doing it?  are u somehow hurting me by pretending to be all lovey dovey?  i like the sentiment, but apparently, he&#8217;s trying to say i&#8217;m usually mean.  i am.  but only to jackazzes.  so what could be gained?  making me look nicer?  weird.</p>
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		<title>By: Posts about The Raiders From Other Great Blogs issue #1 &#124; Raiders Central &#124; Oakland Raiders Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2012/12/21/seymour-out-for-sundays-game-says-hes-still-elite-player/comment-page-11/#comment-1185886</link>
		<dc:creator>Posts about The Raiders From Other Great Blogs issue #1 &#124; Raiders Central &#124; Oakland Raiders Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 11:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of the Black Hole. Fast forward to today, and Rice now talks about a different Ra  more&#8230;    Seymour out for Sunday’s game, says he’s still ‘elite’ player &#8211; ibabuzz.com 12/21/2012 Defensive tackle Richard Seymour won&#8217;t play Sunday against the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of the Black Hole. Fast forward to today, and Rice now talks about a different Ra  more&#8230;    Seymour out for Sunday’s game, says he’s still ‘elite’ player &#8211; ibabuzz.com 12/21/2012 Defensive tackle Richard Seymour won&#8217;t play Sunday against the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: GG</title>
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		<dc:creator>GG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 07:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#546

Exactly. That&#039;s what&#039;s troubling. That&#039;s exactly the heart of the matter. Not just Allen/Knapp/Reggie supporters deflecting the reality, deflecting blame from themselves. But Reggie/Allen/Knapp have been doing that too...blaming players, blaming previous regime, blaming other coaching elements inside the organization. And trying to pull the wool over astute fans and shill beat writers, by suggesting that they weren&#039;t trying to win and make playoffs, or they didn&#039;t really believe they would win and make playoffs.

Which is hogwash. If you look at Reggie&#039;s transactions, and Allen&#039;s hires and starting personnel (and who hasnt been played)...they&#039;ve been trying to field the best team, been trying to win, restructuring contracts to retain certain vet players, etc.

This 4-12 season, with a lot of broken franchise records for patheticness, was this regime GENUINELY trying to win now lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#546</p>
<p>Exactly. That&#8217;s what&#8217;s troubling. That&#8217;s exactly the heart of the matter. Not just Allen/Knapp/Reggie supporters deflecting the reality, deflecting blame from themselves. But Reggie/Allen/Knapp have been doing that too&#8230;blaming players, blaming previous regime, blaming other coaching elements inside the organization. And trying to pull the wool over astute fans and shill beat writers, by suggesting that they weren&#8217;t trying to win and make playoffs, or they didn&#8217;t really believe they would win and make playoffs.</p>
<p>Which is hogwash. If you look at Reggie&#8217;s transactions, and Allen&#8217;s hires and starting personnel (and who hasnt been played)&#8230;they&#8217;ve been trying to field the best team, been trying to win, restructuring contracts to retain certain vet players, etc.</p>
<p>This 4-12 season, with a lot of broken franchise records for patheticness, was this regime GENUINELY trying to win now lol.</p>
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		<title>By: DJ Johnny</title>
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		<dc:creator>DJ Johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 07:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>545,

Absolutely not. I agree. I&#039;d rather hear &quot;Yes, this looks bad and there&#039;s not much we can say to defend DA for this horrible season, but i think he should have another yr. because i think he&#039;ll learn from his mistakes and we&#039;ll get better&quot;.

It&#039;s much more palatable than trying to sell this disaster of a season as BETTER than the previous 2 seasons, or that DA has really improved the team despite the record.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>545,</p>
<p>Absolutely not. I agree. I&#8217;d rather hear &#8220;Yes, this looks bad and there&#8217;s not much we can say to defend DA for this horrible season, but i think he should have another yr. because i think he&#8217;ll learn from his mistakes and we&#8217;ll get better&#8221;.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s much more palatable than trying to sell this disaster of a season as BETTER than the previous 2 seasons, or that DA has really improved the team despite the record.</p>
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		<title>By: GG</title>
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		<dc:creator>GG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 07:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#543...

That&#039;s also a good argument. Good approach to winning the debate.

#542 also happens to be a good argument, a good approach to winning the debate :)

Ie, either way you look at it, there&#039;s no way anyone can defend Allen and his record. Whatsoever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#543&#8230;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s also a good argument. Good approach to winning the debate.</p>
<p>#542 also happens to be a good argument, a good approach to winning the debate <img src='http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Ie, either way you look at it, there&#8217;s no way anyone can defend Allen and his record. Whatsoever.</p>
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		<title>By: DJ Johnny</title>
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		<dc:creator>DJ Johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 07:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been teetering on the DA issue.  Part of me wants to see some continuity at HC as firing our HC every yr. has been a source and sign of dysfunction and embarrassment for Raider fans; which is why I didn&#039;t even want Cable fired..and then Hue after that, but what&#039;s worse. Going more seasons at 3-13 4-12 or 5-11, or keep doing it till we get it right?

It&#039;s a conundrum.

I&#039;m not at all pleased with what we did this season that&#039;s for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been teetering on the DA issue.  Part of me wants to see some continuity at HC as firing our HC every yr. has been a source and sign of dysfunction and embarrassment for Raider fans; which is why I didn&#8217;t even want Cable fired..and then Hue after that, but what&#8217;s worse. Going more seasons at 3-13 4-12 or 5-11, or keep doing it till we get it right?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a conundrum.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not at all pleased with what we did this season that&#8217;s for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: DJ Johnny</title>
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		<dc:creator>DJ Johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 07:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GG,

I see what you&#039;re syaing, but for me personally i&#039;m not gonna discount any wins from this yr. since i&#039;ve been sticking up for all the wins from last yr. in response to guys saying &quot;it wasn&#039;t real&quot; or it was &quot;a mirage&quot; so in fairness i&#039;m fine with giving the DA fans their wins and going with the &quot;you are what your record says you are&quot; stance.

4-10 is bad enough. Lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GG,</p>
<p>I see what you&#8217;re syaing, but for me personally i&#8217;m not gonna discount any wins from this yr. since i&#8217;ve been sticking up for all the wins from last yr. in response to guys saying &#8220;it wasn&#8217;t real&#8221; or it was &#8220;a mirage&#8221; so in fairness i&#8217;m fine with giving the DA fans their wins and going with the &#8220;you are what your record says you are&#8221; stance.</p>
<p>4-10 is bad enough. Lol.</p>
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