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		<title>By: ENGLANDRAIDER</title>
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		<dc:creator>ENGLANDRAIDER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 21:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sometimes it seems like the problem on offensive is more about the play calling than Knapp&#039;s actual system.

   How about if Al Sanders calls the plays for the last game Dennis?
   Failing that, let Snake do it from that bar in Alabama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes it seems like the problem on offensive is more about the play calling than Knapp&#8217;s actual system.</p>
<p>   How about if Al Sanders calls the plays for the last game Dennis?<br />
   Failing that, let Snake do it from that bar in Alabama.</p>
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		<title>By: omoran</title>
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		<dc:creator>omoran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 21:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Raider (since 1967)★
You get what grow  !! Can Someone call the last game besides KNAPP!  Let  another Coach or Al  Saunder try to  Win the Last one for Al. Let Pryor.
 Al Saunders + Pryor = WIN!       If it works we use the Formula !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raider (since 1967)★<br />
You get what grow  !! Can Someone call the last game besides KNAPP!  Let  another Coach or Al  Saunder try to  Win the Last one for Al. Let Pryor.<br />
 Al Saunders + Pryor = WIN!       If it works we use the Formula !!</p>
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		<title>By: rediaR</title>
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		<dc:creator>rediaR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 21:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RaiderSam Says: 
December 23rd, 2012 at 1:17 pm
RediaR Says:
December 23rd, 2012 at 1:15 pm
RaiderSam Says:
December 23rd, 2012 at 1:13 pm
RediaR Says:
December 23rd, 2012 at 1:11 pm
Who’s ready for the “fire me” bowl against Norv and the chargers next week? You think TP dresses for the game?

==================

Missed the game completely….so Pryor didnt even get in
after they said they had a “package” for him
———————–
Palmer went down early. Leinhart was terrible. Pryor still only got like 3 plays.

=================

Pryor got 3 plays, and Leinart finished the game…looked even worse?
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They were wildcat plays with Palmer/Leinhart at WR</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RaiderSam Says:<br />
December 23rd, 2012 at 1:17 pm<br />
RediaR Says:<br />
December 23rd, 2012 at 1:15 pm<br />
RaiderSam Says:<br />
December 23rd, 2012 at 1:13 pm<br />
RediaR Says:<br />
December 23rd, 2012 at 1:11 pm<br />
Who’s ready for the “fire me” bowl against Norv and the chargers next week? You think TP dresses for the game?</p>
<p>==================</p>
<p>Missed the game completely….so Pryor didnt even get in<br />
after they said they had a “package” for him<br />
———————–<br />
Palmer went down early. Leinhart was terrible. Pryor still only got like 3 plays.</p>
<p>=================</p>
<p>Pryor got 3 plays, and Leinart finished the game…looked even worse?<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
They were wildcat plays with Palmer/Leinhart at WR</p>
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		<title>By: rediaR</title>
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		<dc:creator>rediaR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 21:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ENGLANDRAIDER Says: 
December 23rd, 2012 at 1:14 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 23rd, 2012 at 12:58 pm
How did DA get a job as HC, affirmative action?

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

No. He got it because McKenzie thought he was the best guy out there.

That’s a jackarse comment swabby since the Raiders havte just three wins, travelled 3000 miles to play and played hard anyway.
THAT is all about Allen.
----------------
That is only some of what is needed from a coach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ENGLANDRAIDER Says:<br />
December 23rd, 2012 at 1:14 pm<br />
KoolKell Says:<br />
December 23rd, 2012 at 12:58 pm<br />
How did DA get a job as HC, affirmative action?</p>
<p>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++</p>
<p>No. He got it because McKenzie thought he was the best guy out there.</p>
<p>That’s a jackarse comment swabby since the Raiders havte just three wins, travelled 3000 miles to play and played hard anyway.<br />
THAT is all about Allen.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
That is only some of what is needed from a coach.</p>
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		<title>By: RaiderSam</title>
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		<dc:creator>RaiderSam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 21:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RediaR Says: 
December 23rd, 2012 at 1:15 pm
RaiderSam Says:
December 23rd, 2012 at 1:13 pm
RediaR Says:
December 23rd, 2012 at 1:11 pm
Who’s ready for the “fire me” bowl against Norv and the chargers next week? You think TP dresses for the game?

==================

Missed the game completely….so Pryor didnt even get in
after they said they had a “package” for him
———————–
Palmer went down early. Leinhart was terrible. Pryor still only got like 3 plays.

=================

Pryor got 3 plays, and Leinart finished the game...looked even worse?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RediaR Says:<br />
December 23rd, 2012 at 1:15 pm<br />
RaiderSam Says:<br />
December 23rd, 2012 at 1:13 pm<br />
RediaR Says:<br />
December 23rd, 2012 at 1:11 pm<br />
Who’s ready for the “fire me” bowl against Norv and the chargers next week? You think TP dresses for the game?</p>
<p>==================</p>
<p>Missed the game completely….so Pryor didnt even get in<br />
after they said they had a “package” for him<br />
———————–<br />
Palmer went down early. Leinhart was terrible. Pryor still only got like 3 plays.</p>
<p>=================</p>
<p>Pryor got 3 plays, and Leinart finished the game&#8230;looked even worse?</p>
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		<title>By: RaiderSam</title>
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		<dc:creator>RaiderSam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 21:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RaidO Says: 
December 23rd, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Morilla Says:
December 23rd, 2012 at 12:59 pm
Tuckrulefool Says:
December 23rd, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Ok caps lock off..I’m trying to simmer down…(tough)

Honestly, can ANYONE tell me what is gained by playing Leinert over Pryor, especially AFTER it was clear he couldnt move the ball/score points 2 quarters ago?

So …if Pryor goes in and he flops. Worst case, we dont score points.

Where is the downside risk?

Exactly..THERE IS NO DOWNSIDE RISK..

Seiously, how stupid is this guy?

My logical side says that DA must be retarded. If so I take back my earlier rants. That would be like kicking a dog. Unthinkable. He obviously needs mental help.

He has my best wishes to a speedy recovery once he is immediately relieved of his duties.

He is like a 3 yr old swimmming against Michael Phelps. Wors still, the poor tyke HONESTLY thinks he can win!

He is WAYYY overmatched and bewildered at this point.

He needs to be removed, stat.

Mark are you watching?

Our ONLY hope going forward into 13 and beyond..repeat ONLY hope….is that Mark Davis is -not insane-. If he is sane (or even partially sane) this nonsense will end 1 day after the season ends.

AND then Mark will will aggressively go after Gruden.

The Nation is -thoroughly- fed up.

(Yes I’m the “National” spokesman this afternoon).
———–

I don’t know why people don’t get it.

TP is not the future of the Raiders. If he was, he would be playing. Simple as that.
———————–

WHAT? is Foles the future for Philly? Is Mcelroy the future for the Jets??? They don’t know but they are giving them a shot. THAT IS WHAT YOU DO. We all know Leinart is NOT THE FUTURE OF THE RAIDERS.

============

The main issue is...did the inability of the McKenzie-Allen-Knapp regime&#039;s ability to make adjustments anger Mark Davis to the point of influencing them to change radically in the following year - including saying goals will be met by midseason, or were going in another direction.

Do they stay the course, or does Mark flat out say - &quot;Palmer isnt coming back at that price, so we go QB in the draft and Knapp is out.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RaidO Says:<br />
December 23rd, 2012 at 1:05 pm<br />
Morilla Says:<br />
December 23rd, 2012 at 12:59 pm<br />
Tuckrulefool Says:<br />
December 23rd, 2012 at 12:55 pm<br />
Ok caps lock off..I’m trying to simmer down…(tough)</p>
<p>Honestly, can ANYONE tell me what is gained by playing Leinert over Pryor, especially AFTER it was clear he couldnt move the ball/score points 2 quarters ago?</p>
<p>So …if Pryor goes in and he flops. Worst case, we dont score points.</p>
<p>Where is the downside risk?</p>
<p>Exactly..THERE IS NO DOWNSIDE RISK..</p>
<p>Seiously, how stupid is this guy?</p>
<p>My logical side says that DA must be retarded. If so I take back my earlier rants. That would be like kicking a dog. Unthinkable. He obviously needs mental help.</p>
<p>He has my best wishes to a speedy recovery once he is immediately relieved of his duties.</p>
<p>He is like a 3 yr old swimmming against Michael Phelps. Wors still, the poor tyke HONESTLY thinks he can win!</p>
<p>He is WAYYY overmatched and bewildered at this point.</p>
<p>He needs to be removed, stat.</p>
<p>Mark are you watching?</p>
<p>Our ONLY hope going forward into 13 and beyond..repeat ONLY hope….is that Mark Davis is -not insane-. If he is sane (or even partially sane) this nonsense will end 1 day after the season ends.</p>
<p>AND then Mark will will aggressively go after Gruden.</p>
<p>The Nation is -thoroughly- fed up.</p>
<p>(Yes I’m the “National” spokesman this afternoon).<br />
———–</p>
<p>I don’t know why people don’t get it.</p>
<p>TP is not the future of the Raiders. If he was, he would be playing. Simple as that.<br />
———————–</p>
<p>WHAT? is Foles the future for Philly? Is Mcelroy the future for the Jets??? They don’t know but they are giving them a shot. THAT IS WHAT YOU DO. We all know Leinart is NOT THE FUTURE OF THE RAIDERS.</p>
<p>============</p>
<p>The main issue is&#8230;did the inability of the McKenzie-Allen-Knapp regime&#8217;s ability to make adjustments anger Mark Davis to the point of influencing them to change radically in the following year &#8211; including saying goals will be met by midseason, or were going in another direction.</p>
<p>Do they stay the course, or does Mark flat out say &#8211; &#8220;Palmer isnt coming back at that price, so we go QB in the draft and Knapp is out.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jackie Bibby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackie Bibby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 21:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The raiders scored more last year because they threw DOWN FIELD! D moore snagging deep bombs not 2 yard passes and slants. I dont believe these guys watched any raiders games before they decided to join the organization. Smh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The raiders scored more last year because they threw DOWN FIELD! D moore snagging deep bombs not 2 yard passes and slants. I dont believe these guys watched any raiders games before they decided to join the organization. Smh</p>
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		<title>By: ENGLANDRAIDER</title>
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		<dc:creator>ENGLANDRAIDER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 21:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>omoran Says: 
December 23rd, 2012 at 1:11 pm 
Raider (since 1967)★
How can you throw so many times snd miss so many times ???
THAT- happens because you never let the other Qbs play a bit more.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

   Maybe.
   More likely though  is that it happens because a moron is calling the plays.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>omoran Says:<br />
December 23rd, 2012 at 1:11 pm<br />
Raider (since 1967)★<br />
How can you throw so many times snd miss so many times ???<br />
THAT- happens because you never let the other Qbs play a bit more.</p>
<p>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++</p>
<p>   Maybe.<br />
   More likely though  is that it happens because a moron is calling the plays.</p>
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		<title>By: rediaR</title>
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		<dc:creator>rediaR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 21:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RaiderSam Says: 
December 23rd, 2012 at 1:13 pm
RediaR Says:
December 23rd, 2012 at 1:11 pm
Who’s ready for the “fire me” bowl against Norv and the chargers next week? You think TP dresses for the game?

==================

Missed the game completely….so Pryor didnt even get in
after they said they had a “package” for him
-----------------------
Palmer went down early. Leinhart was terrible. Pryor still only got like 3 plays.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RaiderSam Says:<br />
December 23rd, 2012 at 1:13 pm<br />
RediaR Says:<br />
December 23rd, 2012 at 1:11 pm<br />
Who’s ready for the “fire me” bowl against Norv and the chargers next week? You think TP dresses for the game?</p>
<p>==================</p>
<p>Missed the game completely….so Pryor didnt even get in<br />
after they said they had a “package” for him<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
Palmer went down early. Leinhart was terrible. Pryor still only got like 3 plays.</p>
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		<title>By: ENGLANDRAIDER</title>
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		<dc:creator>ENGLANDRAIDER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 21:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KoolKell Says:
December 23rd, 2012 at 12:58 pm
How did DA get a job as HC, affirmative action?

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

   No.  He got it because McKenzie thought he was the best guy out there.

   That&#039;s a jackarse comment swabby since the Raiders havte just three wins, travelled 3000 miles to play and played hard anyway.
   THAT is all about Allen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KoolKell Says:<br />
December 23rd, 2012 at 12:58 pm<br />
How did DA get a job as HC, affirmative action?</p>
<p>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++</p>
<p>   No.  He got it because McKenzie thought he was the best guy out there.</p>
<p>   That&#8217;s a jackarse comment swabby since the Raiders havte just three wins, travelled 3000 miles to play and played hard anyway.<br />
   THAT is all about Allen.</p>
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