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Final: Panthers 17, Raiders 6

The Raiders can’t catch a break, nor are they good enough to make their own.

That much was evident Sunday in a 17-6 loss to the Carolina Panthers at Bank of America Stadium, a game that was destined to be a struggle the moment Carson Palmer left the game for good with 1:57 left in the first quarter.

Hit from behind by Carolina defensive end Greg Hardy, who was called for roughing the passer, Palmer did not suffer broken ribs, according to X-rays, but he was in too much pain to continue.

Palmer gave way to Matt Leinart, who struggled with timing and rhythm after sitting the bench all season. The Raiders managed only 21-yard and 31-yard field goals by Sebastian Janikowski in falling to 4-11 before a crowd of 73,026.

Carolina (6-9), in its regular-season home finale, got a 23-yard touchdown pass from Cam Newton to Steve Smith and a 3-yard from Newton in what was a fairly stout game by the Oakland defense.

Graham Gano kicked a 51-yard field goal with 2:46 remaining to put the game away for the Panthers.

Newton completed 18 of 29 passes for 170 yards and rushed 12 times for 60 yards. Leinart was 16 for 31 for 115 yards and an interception.

The Raiders had reason to be frustrated about the way things went down in losing their 10th consecutive game in an eastern time zone.

On Newton’s touchdown pass to Smith, Carolina tackle Byron Bell appeared to be holding Raiders defensive end Lamarr Houston. No flag was thrown.

In the second quarter, a Carolina drive was extended when Tommy Kelly was called for unnecessary roughness after scuffling with Newton. Newton had initiated the altercation by kicking Kelly after the sack.

Later in the same drive, linebacker Miles Burris was called for unnecessary roughness on what appeared to be a hard, clean hit on tight end Greg Olson.

The Raiders got a break when Graham Gano missed a 48-yard field goal attempt, but Oakland gave the ball right back two plays later when Leinart was intercepted by linebacker Luke Kuechly. That initiated a 29-yard drive which resulted in Newton’s touchdown run.

Two times in the third quarter the Raiders forced turnovers in Carolina territory and managed only six points.

A forced fumble by Chimdi Chekwa was recovered by Richard Gordon at the 32-yard line, but the Raiders worked quickly backward to the 42 before Shane Lechler was forced to punt.

The Raiders were forced out of field goal range when Jared Veldheer was called for holding on third-and-10, forcing the ball to the 43, and a Leinart pass to Brandon Myers gained a single yard.

On the final play of the third quarter, Philip Wheeler deflected a Newton pass to set up Oakland at the Carolina 18.

The Raiders had first-and-goal at the 8 after a Charles Godfrey penalty against Rod Streater for a head-high shot on third-and-9.

Terrelle Pryor, inserted on three occasions with Leinart split wide, tossed a 5-yard pass to Marcel Reece to the 3. McFadden trotted into the end zone for an apparent touchdown, but it was called back on a holding penalty by Stefen Wisniewski.

Janikowski eventually connected from 31 yards.

Finally, after Leinart drove the Raiders to the 24-yard line, a Rod Streater narrowly missed a leaping grab at the 5-yard line on third-and-4, failing to bring the ball all the way to the ground against the defense of James Dockery and D.J. Campbell.

On fourth down, Leinart couldn’t find his first read to his left, attempted to throw a screen to his right to Darren McFadden, and Hardy batted the ball down to end the threat.

The Raiders finish the season in San Diego on Dec. 30.

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  • oakfshow

    632.Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 23rd, 2012 at 5:00 pm
    Stink hole chargers got a outside chance at a the last wild card.

    *************************

    How high are you, because they were eliminated last week.

    All the AFC playoff teams are accounted for.
    ========================================================= And all of you who predicted playoffs for us this year are accounted for. Dumbest fans in the world are still on this blog. 4-12

  • Raiderbuck

    I just can’t believe no ones been fired yet.

  • RaiderSam

    EMRaiders Says:
    December 23rd, 2012 at 5:03 pm
    Alley Cat Says:
    December 23rd, 2012 at 5:01 pm
    This is nuts from an earlier post:

    Cable to SEATTLE: Playoffs

    Hue to CINCY: Playoffs

    Knapp leaves HOUSTON: Playoffs

    DA leaves DENVER: Playoffs

    Reggie leaves GREEN BAY: Playoffs

    The time is ripe for Gruden to return to Oakland. Only way to restore this franchise. Only hope. We had the pieces in place to win this year. Just a new DC woulda been fine. But no. We got to ruin everything that Coach Davis was finally putting back together. We were poised. We were at the doorstep. I rest my case.

    ===========

    Great point. Tough to argue with that break down. Considering those team had some great signings, still, interesting to look at it from that point of view.

    GRUDEN 2013!

    —————
    2003; Ring with TB with Dungy built defense v. team he basically built
    2009; knocked out of playoffs by Raiders
    2010; MNF
    2011: MNF
    2012; MNF

    ESPN QB Coach Camp

    GRUDEN 2013 just guarantees excitement for fan base and more expectation.

    a lot of people have to buy in, and better, more prepared assistants would need to come in.

  • morilla

    Zymurge Says:
    December 23rd, 2012 at 5:03 pm
    morilla Says:
    December 23rd, 2012 at 4:40 pm
    Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 23rd, 2012 at 4:35 pm
    I don’t know any non-1st round pick QB’s or Pro Bowl QB’s, that a new organizational structure comes into and hitches their saddle to.

    Especially unproven 3rd round picks.

    TP was toast as soon as Al died.
    ————-

    Don’t be surprised if Reggie goes after Flynn.

    ======

    Now that thought scared me for a couple reasons:

    1) Reggie does seem to love the ex-GB players, even those that get cut, let alone those that get lured away as massively overpaid free agents

    2) Flynn’s brief body of work has a 6 TD game in it that certainly demonstrate him at his best — which usually means it’s all downside from there

    But then when I think about it more, it could be a good thing with the right conditions.

    1) The first is a very low price tag, which I think they can get for him after seeing him beat out by a rookie for a job that all but served up to him on a silver platter. For that to happen, they can’t trade for him because he comes with two hefty years left on his Seattle deal, so he’d have to be cut first. I think the Seahawks will have to cut him even though it’ll mean a $4M cap acceleration. Otherwise, his cap hit in 2013 is over $7M and it goes over $8M in 2014. The catch he is that the FA QB market is going to be thin so he would still generate a decent bidding war and would probably fetch a 3-4 year deal at around $2.5M per year.

    2) They start incorporating a system similar to what GB runs, at least in the passing game. I don’t see them getting away from the ZBS on the running side after what they’ve invested so far. That could mean bringing in a new OC that has WCO roots similar to what he proved he ran well in GB. Maybe he’d go after yet another younf up and comer like Brian McAdoo, who is Green Bay’s QB Coach/Offensive Asst.

    ————–

    Good points Z. I can see it happening. Matt L. Gone and Flynn at 2, then they will probably be drafting a QB in the later rounds for the 3.

    It’s a shame we won’t get to see what Pryors got, they are hell bent on their system and don’t want him seeing the light of day.

  • fingers

    And Tarver.. I’m not decided on … Talents pretty thin to judge him accurately ….need more depth … Corners… Pass rusher, Lb’s …

  • Chris in NY

    RaiderSam Says:
    December 23rd, 2012 at 4:59 pm
    EMRaiders Says:
    December 23rd, 2012 at 4:41 pm

    Mark was straight forward and came out and said that he knew what he didn’t know. And that he needed help on those things he didn’t know. He went out and consulted with what everyone considers “great minds of football” and they told him to hire Reggie. Reggie was the most coveted GM candidate at the time, and everyone agreed that this was the right, and a great hire.

    Then Reggie went on his cross country bus tour in search of the next great Raider HC. And the candidates he interviewed were pretty lame. This, to me, was the first sign of things to come.

    ———————————

    coaching choices
    1. Joe DeCamillas
    2. Mike McCoy (McCoy canceled in favor of Miami job when it was opened)
    3. Pete Charmichael
    4. Marty Mohrningweg
    5. Todd Bowles
    6. Dennis Allen
    7. Winston Moss
    8. Dom Capers

    i think that was the extent – i think there was speculation on Mike Tice, but that was cut short as McKenzie had decided on Dennis Allen.

    others that should have gotten speculation,,and could if Allen is let go include

    Greg Roman and Vic Fangio of Niners. The plus of Fangio would be his experience and he could bring in secondary coach Ed Donatell as the DC.

    but that is a pipe dream… Allen is the coach..if the Charger game is a blowout and Mark Davis is angered again – expect the “we will discuss the future of Dennis Allen”

    i think that Gruden thing was run out on purpose to see how Allen would adjust. Maybe its still in play on the Q.T.?

    ————————————-

    That is an awful roster.

    Marty Morningweg?
    Mike Tice?

    A bunch of no-name guys who haven’t proven anything (including Dennis Allen). Carmichael I think is strictly a coordinator. He wasn’t even named interim-interim head coach in New Orleans.

    Philly’s D got appreciably worse this year when they fired the much-maligned Juan Castillo and replaced him with Bowles.

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    2006, the Raiders were 3rd in Total Defense, 1st in Pass Defense. 2-14.

    http://www.nfl.com/stats/team?seasonId=2006&seasonType=&Submit=Go

  • RaiderSam

    Raiders For Life Says:
    December 23rd, 2012 at 5:06 pm
    I believe Allen said when he was hired that he would allow the OC to make the calls and run the offense. (I think) I thought he also said that he would lend a hand with the defense, but his main objective was to oversee the team as a head coach.

    So now the question is has Allen played it smart and kept quiet to the media about how he feels about the Raiders offense?

    =============

    I think it should be all business. Just move on from Knapp, hire Norv Turner or Rathman from the Niners as OC

    or Gruden as HC with Ed Donatell as D.C. A.Kromer as off line coach, Jay Gruden as OC

  • morilla

    RaiderSam Says:
    December 23rd, 2012 at 5:04 pm
    Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 23rd, 2012 at 5:00 pm
    Stink hole chargers got a outside chance at a the last wild card.

    *************************

    How high are you, because they were eliminated last week.

    All the AFC playoff teams are accounted for.

    ————

    How ironic would it be if Norv Turner is coaching against the team he will eventually be the offensive coordinator for?
    ———

    I am all for bringing Norv back. I’m in SD and think he’s gotten a bad rap. He’s a good guy, Smith has been hand cuffing him for years.

    Come back Norv, please.

  • RaiderSam

    Chris In NY Says:
    December 23rd, 2012 at 5:09 pm
    RaiderSam Says:
    December 23rd, 2012 at 4:59 pm
    EMRaiders Says:
    December 23rd, 2012 at 4:41 pm

    Mark was straight forward and came out and said that he knew what he didn’t know. And that he needed help on those things he didn’t know. He went out and consulted with what everyone considers “great minds of football” and they told him to hire Reggie. Reggie was the most coveted GM candidate at the time, and everyone agreed that this was the right, and a great hire.

    Then Reggie went on his cross country bus tour in search of the next great Raider HC. And the candidates he interviewed were pretty lame. This, to me, was the first sign of things to come.

    ———————————

    coaching choices
    1. Joe DeCamillas
    2. Mike McCoy (McCoy canceled in favor of Miami job when it was opened)
    3. Pete Charmichael
    4. Marty Mohrningweg
    5. Todd Bowles
    6. Dennis Allen
    7. Winston Moss
    8. Dom Capers

    i think that was the extent – i think there was speculation on Mike Tice, but that was cut short as McKenzie had decided on Dennis Allen.

    others that should have gotten speculation,,and could if Allen is let go include

    Greg Roman and Vic Fangio of Niners. The plus of Fangio would be his experience and he could bring in secondary coach Ed Donatell as the DC.

    but that is a pipe dream… Allen is the coach..if the Charger game is a blowout and Mark Davis is angered again – expect the “we will discuss the future of Dennis Allen”

    i think that Gruden thing was run out on purpose to see how Allen would adjust. Maybe its still in play on the Q.T.?

    ————————————-

    That is an awful roster.

    Marty Morningweg?
    Mike Tice?

    A bunch of no-name guys who haven’t proven anything (including Dennis Allen). Carmichael I think is strictly a coordinator. He wasn’t even named interim-interim head coach in New Orleans.

    Philly’s D got appreciably worse this year when they fired the much-maligned Juan Castillo and replaced him with Bowles.

    ————————

    Either they stay the course or move on from Allen altogether. That guy has to realize that Knapp could cost him his job. But they are under contract.

    Dont know of anybody that could turn this around

    not Rob Ryan, not Winston Moss, not Dom Capers, not Brian Schottenheimer.

    just have to wait this season out.

  • Chris in NY

    This is what the Raiders 2013 head coaching search list should look like:

    - Jon Gruden
    - Greg Roman
    - Vic Fangio
    - Chris Peterson
    - Chip Kelly
    - Hue Jackson
    - Mike Zimmer
    - Nick Saban
    - Rex Ryan

  • morilla

    One other thing, Cam Newton needs his head taken off by somebody. What a little biotch, he acts like he’s 13.

  • VanHeathen30

    Mark SHOULD have Hired a Pres. Of Football Ops BEFORE he hired Reggie and let the Pres. Hire the GM…HOW WAS mark to know who would be the best GM when he hasn’t participated in daily Operations ever.
    Now, he should hire a Pres. To come in and be Reggie’s boss…
    I don’t think Mark has 3 seasons to burn on a rebuild if he really wants a new stadium.

  • morilla

    Rumor is Saban is going to the Browns to work with Lombardi.

  • 2romes

    Morilla, Reggie supporters never answered this question. Does zone blocking win more Superbowls than power block? Why did Reggie come to the Raiders camp and switch to a zone scheme when he knew most of his players did not fit that scheme? Because he wanted to sandblast?

  • morilla

    Norv is also Palmers neighbor here. Make it happen Reggie.

  • morilla

    2romes Says:
    December 23rd, 2012 at 5:20 pm
    Morilla, Reggie supporters never answered this question. Does zone blocking win more Superbowls than power block? Why did Reggie come to the Raiders camp and switch to a zone scheme when he knew most of his players did not fit that scheme? Because he wanted to sandblast?
    ———–

    Probably to see what players to keep and what players to get rid of.

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 23rd, 2012 at 4:58 pm

    Ravens and Packers also are ZBS teams, will they be knocked out in the first round?
    ————————
    Not unless Greg Knapp gets traded to either.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNoi_wwzbtQ Zymurge

    Raiders for life Says:
    December 23rd, 2012 at 5:06 pm
    I believe Allen said when he was hired that he would allow the OC to make the calls and run the offense. (I think) I thought he also said that he would lend a hand with the defense, but his main objective was to oversee the team as a head coach.

    So now the question is has Allen played it smart and kept quiet to the media about how he feels about the Raiders offense?

    After this pathetic season if Dennis Allen doesn’t get it and move on from Knapp, then I agree with most of you. Start over again.

    =====

    My opinion is that Knapp is a stepping stone coach. He does have a good history of teaching the ZBS. Not so good of a history as moving it forward, and as we’ve seen, he’s not the most creative at playcalling. I think his best role as an Asst OC where he can do big picture Xs and Os and teach.

    With a year under their belt running the system, they are the right RB away from having a decent running game. They are an RT and an OG (or C with Wiz moving over) away from having a good pass blocking line. Add in less predictibility from the OC and the offense under Palmer will hum. If for cap reasons they need to move on from Palmer, then it’s going to be more slow rebuilding.

  • ENGLANDRAIDER

    fingers Says:
    December 23rd, 2012 at 5:09 pm
    And Tarver.. I’m not decided on … Talents pretty thin to judge him accurately ….need more depth … Corners… Pass rusher, Lb’s …

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    No, I’m not either.
    People forget what he inherited from Al running the defense for so long.
    We had the 29th ranked defense in 2011 and in had a lot of injuries this year.

  • ENGLANDRAIDER

    morilla Says:
    December 23rd, 2012 at 5:17 pm
    One other thing, Cam Newton needs his head taken off by somebody. What a little biotch, he acts like he’s 13.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Yeah….that call on Kelly was baloney. Kelly reacted to Cam doing his childish kicking thing again.

  • 2romes

    I will answer my own Question since the Reggie fans have not answered it. Zone blocking teams have not won more superbowl the power blocking team. So if Reggie wants a better chance at winning why did he come here so committed to that scheme?

  • RaiderSam

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/23/cam-newton-apologizes-for-bumping-jerome-bolger/

    Meanwhile Tom Brady is allowed to spike the ball into the ground while screaming like Bill Cowler at a ref and no action is taken…

  • Kiwi_Blade

    2romes Says:
    December 23rd, 2012 at 5:35 pm

    I will answer my own Question since the Reggie fans have not answered it. Zone blocking teams have not won more superbowl the power blocking team. So if Reggie wants a better chance at winning why did he come here so committed to that scheme?

    —————————-

    Cork said in one of his on-line chats a few weeks back that Reggie doesn’t care what blocking scheme the Raiders use.
    DA & Knapp are responsible for the scheme.

  • RaiderSam

    Chris In NY Says:
    December 23rd, 2012 at 5:15 pm
    This is what the Raiders 2013 head coaching search list should look like:

    - Jon Gruden
    - Greg Roman
    - Vic Fangio
    - Chris Peterson
    - Chip Kelly
    - Hue Jackson
    - Mike Zimmer
    - Nick Saban
    - Rex Ryan

    ——————–

    Gruden – would re-energize the fan base, get a bit more national media, but would be expensive…

    Jackson – would be interesting because its like “i realized my mistake” but they move on.that ship has clearly sailed

    Kelly – good because he could employ Pryor in a zone-read option and utilize the speed on offense more effectively …bad because college coaches coming to a rebuilding team hasnt worked since 90s Cowboys.
    Ryan – love it . takes care of the attitude, and if Dallas moves on from Garrett, Ryan hires his twin bro for the d-coordinator position…but too much of a circus, but a coordinator that can draw up a game plan with his back against the wall

    Saban – headed to Cleveland, then probably back to college in a couple of years

    Zimmer – damn good hire. and could conceivably bring Hue in as OC to help Palmer.

    Fangio – great pick, could recruit S Goldson in FA to lead defensive change

    Roman – likely to get some interest in some places – could bring Alex Smith over as insurance if Raiders choose a QB (Bray-Geno Smith or Tyler Wilson) could bring a lot of Niner FAs over, too.

    Peterson – has bigger fish to fry with a D-1 program

  • dcraiderfan

    How in theworld would Allen know any talent!! You’s gotta go back to Denver! Because you have no coaching skills, period! You can’t develop Pryor unless he’s under center now. You can’t just leave on the sidelines all the time and throw him under the bus at the last minute! You should terminated at the last whistle, so pack your bags the minute the game’s over and carry your staff with your staff with you, low life, no coaching idiot!

  • Derek

    #452 and all of the other TK haters. Dude has been a pro bowl alternate 2 years in a row. The coaches and his peers who know far more football than anyone on this blog. They respect his game and ability enough to conclude he’s an elite talent. The Raiders cannot afford to rid themselves of elite talent. Some of you clowns praise Burris yet ridicule TK. Get real !

  • Derek

    #555: In the PAST Mr. davis didn’t want independent thinking coaches. He wanted guys who’d do what he wanted. For that reason, most high profile coaches or guys wise enough to believe they’d have other chances would never want to work for him.

    Fast foward to 2011/2012. Viable coaching candidates know what the challenge is in Oakland. That is why names such as Dennis Green, Bill Parcells, Sean Payton and Whisenhunt walked away in the past. (How are those guys doing by the way?)

    Sean Payton had a job and was later suspended for the season. Dennis Green and Bill Parcells are 1000 yrs old and long retired. Wisenhunt was one of those guys who knew he’d become a HC on his own terms. As for interviewing him for the passed season. He has a job. Do you follow football ?

  • Derek

    Cam, Kap and RGIII would probably all be back-ups on the Raiders, with the unimaginative losers the Raiders have running the show. These Bozo’s would start, Matt Leinart or Brady Quinn over the far better athlete and QB they aren’t accustomed to seeing.