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Final: Panthers 17, Raiders 6

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, December 23rd, 2012 at 12:59 pm in Oakland Raiders.

The Raiders can’t catch a break, nor are they good enough to make their own.

That much was evident Sunday in a 17-6 loss to the Carolina Panthers at Bank of America Stadium, a game that was destined to be a struggle the moment Carson Palmer left the game for good with 1:57 left in the first quarter.

Hit from behind by Carolina defensive end Greg Hardy, who was called for roughing the passer, Palmer did not suffer broken ribs, according to X-rays, but he was in too much pain to continue.

Palmer gave way to Matt Leinart, who struggled with timing and rhythm after sitting the bench all season. The Raiders managed only 21-yard and 31-yard field goals by Sebastian Janikowski in falling to 4-11 before a crowd of 73,026.

Carolina (6-9), in its regular-season home finale, got a 23-yard touchdown pass from Cam Newton to Steve Smith and a 3-yard from Newton in what was a fairly stout game by the Oakland defense.

Graham Gano kicked a 51-yard field goal with 2:46 remaining to put the game away for the Panthers.

Newton completed 18 of 29 passes for 170 yards and rushed 12 times for 60 yards. Leinart was 16 for 31 for 115 yards and an interception.

The Raiders had reason to be frustrated about the way things went down in losing their 10th consecutive game in an eastern time zone.

On Newton’s touchdown pass to Smith, Carolina tackle Byron Bell appeared to be holding Raiders defensive end Lamarr Houston. No flag was thrown.

In the second quarter, a Carolina drive was extended when Tommy Kelly was called for unnecessary roughness after scuffling with Newton. Newton had initiated the altercation by kicking Kelly after the sack.

Later in the same drive, linebacker Miles Burris was called for unnecessary roughness on what appeared to be a hard, clean hit on tight end Greg Olson.

The Raiders got a break when Graham Gano missed a 48-yard field goal attempt, but Oakland gave the ball right back two plays later when Leinart was intercepted by linebacker Luke Kuechly. That initiated a 29-yard drive which resulted in Newton’s touchdown run.

Two times in the third quarter the Raiders forced turnovers in Carolina territory and managed only six points.

A forced fumble by Chimdi Chekwa was recovered by Richard Gordon at the 32-yard line, but the Raiders worked quickly backward to the 42 before Shane Lechler was forced to punt.

The Raiders were forced out of field goal range when Jared Veldheer was called for holding on third-and-10, forcing the ball to the 43, and a Leinart pass to Brandon Myers gained a single yard.

On the final play of the third quarter, Philip Wheeler deflected a Newton pass to set up Oakland at the Carolina 18.

The Raiders had first-and-goal at the 8 after a Charles Godfrey penalty against Rod Streater for a head-high shot on third-and-9.

Terrelle Pryor, inserted on three occasions with Leinart split wide, tossed a 5-yard pass to Marcel Reece to the 3. McFadden trotted into the end zone for an apparent touchdown, but it was called back on a holding penalty by Stefen Wisniewski.

Janikowski eventually connected from 31 yards.

Finally, after Leinart drove the Raiders to the 24-yard line, a Rod Streater narrowly missed a leaping grab at the 5-yard line on third-and-4, failing to bring the ball all the way to the ground against the defense of James Dockery and D.J. Campbell.

On fourth down, Leinart couldn’t find his first read to his left, attempted to throw a screen to his right to Darren McFadden, and Hardy batted the ball down to end the threat.

The Raiders finish the season in San Diego on Dec. 30.

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  • Raiders for life

    I would have rather seen the Raiders lose today with Pryor.
    But instead they lost with a QB that we already knew was a career backup.

    I understand that lienart is the #2, but in a meaningless game with matty sucking sht it was the perfect opportunity to play Pryor.

    Who really gives a crap if TP failed? No big loss and the Raiders move on. At least we would know what he has to offer.

  • Just Fire Baby

    I don’t know any non-1st round pick QB’s or Pro Bowl QB’s, that a new organizational structure comes into and hitches their saddle to.

    Especially unproven 3rd round picks.

    TP was toast as soon as Al died.

  • morilla

    Support? Haha, you think anyone at HQ gives two sh1ts about what people say on this blog? Are you kidding me?

    I’m a realist, wanna know why no one has been fired yet? Because Reggie and Marc knew exactly what was going on with this season. Expect more of this next year. They are sandblasting this place, it’s happening and there is nothing that will stop it.

    Keep typing your dissertations and wasting your time. Maybe write a letter to Mark or put up a billboard. SMH. You guys crack me up.

  • Dakota

    The only reason I can think of for DA to play Matt Leinart over Pryor today would be because DA knows Pryor sucks and also knows he had to win some late-season games to keep his job.

    So maybe there is hope DA and this rancid coaching staff might be out after the season after all.

  • morilla

    Raiders For Life Says:
    December 23rd, 2012 at 4:35 pm
    I would have rather seen the Raiders lose today with Pryor.
    But instead they lost with a QB that we already knew was a career backup.

    I understand that lienart is the #2, but in a meaningless game with matty sucking sht it was the perfect opportunity to play Pryor.

    Who really gives a crap if TP failed? No big loss and the Raiders move on. At least we would know what he has to offer.
    ———

    Matt looked scared out there. Made me scared.

  • morilla

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 23rd, 2012 at 4:35 pm
    I don’t know any non-1st round pick QB’s or Pro Bowl QB’s, that a new organizational structure comes into and hitches their saddle to.

    Especially unproven 3rd round picks.

    TP was toast as soon as Al died.
    ————-

    Don’t be surprised if Reggie goes after Flynn.

  • EMRaiders

    I don’t think Mark is pissing on Al’s legacy. I think Al kinda began that process himself. But regardless of that, Mark was straight forward and came out and said that he knew what he didn’t know. And that he needed help on those things he didn’t know. He went out and consulted with what everyone considers “great minds of football” and they told him to hire Reggie. Reggie was the most coveted GM candidate at the time, and everyone agreed that this was the right, and a great hire.

    Then Reggie went on his cross country bus tour in search of the next great Raider HC. And the candidates he interviewed were pretty lame. This, to me, was the first sign of things to come.

    Then Allen goes and hires Knapp. And this is when I realized that we were in big trouble. But I still wanted to believe, and so I drank the kool-aid.

    Now, to be fair, DA did get a lot of shut downs for much better candidates he wanted to interview at first, but still, that is no excuse for who he hired, and what happened this season.

    Now the ball is back on Mark’s court. This offseason is when HIS legacy really begins. Will he take the necessary steps to hire a legitimate coaching staff, or will he stick to what he has now, and wait it out.

    In my opinion, the only thing he has done wrong, is not interview more people for the GM position. Unfortunately, Hue pretty much fired himself when he opened his mouth about the GM position. I think it could’ve been worked out, and think he should have stayed, but no point in talking about that now. Remember, Mark came out and said that the move was made by Reggie, and Reggie said he did it because he wanted to bring in his own guy.

    Rookie owner, rookie GM, rookie HC, rookie DC. And unfortunately, they all made rookie mistakes. Now they all get the chance to redeem themselves. Hopefully, Mark makes the first move.

  • angry little man

    First things first

    1.I believe RM can turn this around, several decades of mis management cannot be erased in one season.

    2.Greg Napp must be fired, not tommorow, not after the season ends, NOW.

    3.Still undecided on Allen.

    4.At least the team showed some pride today, got in some scuffles, kick someone in the face, kick em in the balls, do what you have to do to win the game!!!!!!!!

  • Tow Mater

    Is SD still in the hunt for the last wild card spot? If so, they may be inspired to win. Which, if they do, could expedite the firing commencement. What a dilema to have as a Raider fan.

    Screw the draft pick. Do we want a win to go into the off season with a win and a false hope, or do we lose as to quicken the firing?

  • Just Fire Baby

    Anyone have an example of another organization flipping over the GM and coaching staff, and them playing the unproven 3rd round pick at QB from the previous regime?

    Seriously, I can’t think of one.

    Life in the business side of the NFL for TP.

    Bad break and I feel bad for the kid.

  • Tow Mater

    Lienart is a back-up.

    Pryor is a prospect.

    Lienart ain’t gonna win any games.

    Pryor has more to play for. If he does not start vs SD, it will validate DAs dumbness.

  • JB

    Raiders for life Says:
    December 23rd, 2012 at 4:35 pm

    I would have rather seen the Raiders lose today with Pryor.
    But instead they lost with a QB that we already knew was a career backup.

    I understand that lienart is the #2, but in a meaningless game with matty sucking sht it was the perfect opportunity to play Pryor.

    Who really gives a crap if TP failed? No big loss and the Raiders move on. At least we would know what he has to offer.
    ***********************

    Agreed. At least had they played him there wouldn’t be this ongoing debate whether he’s worth a crap or not. We’d know. Dumb move on DA’s part. Time fir Reggie to show DA how it’s done by firing Knapp. Then DA could go on to fire a few others who deserve it.

  • angry little man

    play like someone socked yo momma in the face while she was at church, play like somebody stole your baby mammas hand pumped breast milk, play like you care is all I ask !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    FIRE NAPP NOW ARHGHH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Dakota

    Rockstar, Marley, DAV, Dell, DMAC, Exla, Maverick, Palmerhead, SouthTexas, 666, and Vegas.

    I am the Champ!

    How’s my azz taste?

  • morilla

    Rookie owner, rookie GM, rookie HC, rookie DC. And unfortunately, they all made rookie mistakes. Now they all get the chance to redeem themselves. Hopefully, Mark makes the first move.
    —————

    Remember last off season how the “experts and talking heads” were calling for us to win 3-5 games? And 95% of us thought they were on heroin?

    Yeah, they knew what was up.

  • Tow Mater

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 23rd, 2012 at 4:42 pm
    Anyone have an example of another organization flipping over the GM and coaching staff, and them playing the unproven 3rd round pick at QB from the previous regime?

    Seriously, I can’t think of one.

    Life in the business side of the NFL for TP.

    Bad break and I feel bad for the kid.
    ******************************************

    We are a pathetic 4-11. Worse than a bad 4-11. Nothing to lose. Give the kid a shot. Might make DA look like a genious. Course with knapp as the play caller, might hurt Pryor more than it could do him good. So many problems with this coaching staff.

  • angry little man

    someone sock DA’s wife in the mouth , maby this will get him fired up !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    ARGHHHHHHH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Tow Mater

    Stink hole chargers got a outside chance at a the last wild card.

  • angry little man

    You want me to buy season tickets and watch this shi- ?
    You want me to vote on a new stadium and watch this shi-?

    You want my loyalty when you put this type of shi- out on the field ?

    BAA HAH AHHA HAHAH HAHAH !!!!!!!!!!!

  • oakfshow

    Dennis Allen is the worse fkn coach I have ever seen ever!Includeing Art Shell.

  • oakfshow

    The great Houston Zone scheme will be knocked out in the first round.Book it now!

  • EMRaiders

    Morilla Says:
    December 23rd, 2012 at 4:45 pm
    Rookie owner, rookie GM, rookie HC, rookie DC. And unfortunately, they all made rookie mistakes. Now they all get the chance to redeem themselves. Hopefully, Mark makes the first move.
    —————

    Remember last off season how the “experts and talking heads” were calling for us to win 3-5 games? And 95% of us thought they were on heroin?

    Yeah, they knew what was up.

    =============

    YEah, I remember…. Though I think they were picking that record based on our schedule, and not on our staff and players. At the time anyway.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Nothing to lose. Give the kid a shot. Might make DA look like a genious.

    *******************************

    DA has something to lose obviously, his job.

    I am sure if Reggie guaranteed his job for next season, TP would play a helluva lot more.

  • fingers

    I think Romanowski and Lorenzo Neal nailed it today when they said the Reason Pryor hasn’t played much is because he’s not in the future plans…I think they’re right ….

    And those that would be OK with Tim Tebow coming here.. Wash your mouths out with soap …and get help fast….

  • Just Fire Baby

    The great Houston Zone scheme will be knocked out in the first round.Book it now!

    ***********************

    That will be awfully tough to do with a first round bye

  • EMRaiders

    EMRaiders Says:
    December 23rd, 2012 at 4:55 pm
    Morilla Says:
    December 23rd, 2012 at 4:45 pm
    Rookie owner, rookie GM, rookie HC, rookie DC. And unfortunately, they all made rookie mistakes. Now they all get the chance to redeem themselves. Hopefully, Mark makes the first move.
    —————

    Remember last off season how the “experts and talking heads” were calling for us to win 3-5 games? And 95% of us thought they were on heroin?

    Yeah, they knew what was up.

    =============

    YEah, I remember…. Though I think they were picking that record based on our schedule, and not on our staff and players. At the time anyway.

    =====

    Though now that I think about it, I think they probably took all that into consideration. I just think no one imagined it would be this bad.

  • tuckrulefool

    Mystic? Isnt that an ice tea beverage?

    Whatever there, brewmeister…

    Zymurgy: the area of applied science related to
    fermentation.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Ravens and Packers also are ZBS teams, will they be knocked out in the first round?

  • Raiderbuck

    I just can’t see crappy knappy coming back but man, it haunts my dreams. There better be some major moves in the off season.

  • ENGLANDRAIDER

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 23rd, 2012 at 4:57 pm
    The great Houston Zone scheme will be knocked out in the first round.Book it now!

    ***********************

    That will be awfully tough to do with a first round bye

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    LOL!

  • RaiderSam

    EMRaiders Says:
    December 23rd, 2012 at 4:41 pm

    Mark was straight forward and came out and said that he knew what he didn’t know. And that he needed help on those things he didn’t know. He went out and consulted with what everyone considers “great minds of football” and they told him to hire Reggie. Reggie was the most coveted GM candidate at the time, and everyone agreed that this was the right, and a great hire.

    Then Reggie went on his cross country bus tour in search of the next great Raider HC. And the candidates he interviewed were pretty lame. This, to me, was the first sign of things to come.

    ———————————

    coaching choices
    1. Joe DeCamillas
    2. Mike McCoy (McCoy canceled in favor of Miami job when it was opened)
    3. Pete Charmichael
    4. Marty Mohrningweg
    5. Todd Bowles
    6. Dennis Allen
    7. Winston Moss
    8. Dom Capers

    i think that was the extent – i think there was speculation on Mike Tice, but that was cut short as McKenzie had decided on Dennis Allen.

    others that should have gotten speculation,,and could if Allen is let go include

    Greg Roman and Vic Fangio of Niners. The plus of Fangio would be his experience and he could bring in secondary coach Ed Donatell as the DC.

    but that is a pipe dream… Allen is the coach..if the Charger game is a blowout and Mark Davis is angered again – expect the “we will discuss the future of Dennis Allen”

    i think that Gruden thing was run out on purpose to see how Allen would adjust. Maybe its still in play on the Q.T.?

  • Just Fire Baby

    Stink hole chargers got a outside chance at a the last wild card.

    *************************

    How high are you, because they were eliminated last week.

    All the AFC playoff teams are accounted for.

  • RaiderSam

    ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    December 23rd, 2012 at 4:59 pm
    Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 23rd, 2012 at 4:57 pm
    The great Houston Zone scheme will be knocked out in the first round.Book it now!

    ***********************

    That will be awfully tough to do with a first round bye

    —————–

    Wouldnt New England open with Denver, Denver would upset them, and Houston would then beat Denver.?..assuming Houston gets past Indianapolis or whomever.

  • http://raiders.com Alley Cat

    This is nuts from an earlier post:

    Cable to SEATTLE: Playoffs

    Hue to CINCY: Playoffs

    Knapp leaves HOUSTON: Playoffs

    DA leaves DENVER: Playoffs

    Reggie leaves GREEN BAY: Playoffs

    The time is ripe for Gruden to return to Oakland. Only way to restore this franchise. Only hope. We had the pieces in place to win this year. Just a new DC woulda been fine. But no. We got to ruin everything that Coach Davis was finally putting back together. We were poised. We were at the doorstep. I rest my case.

  • tuckrulefool

    Yeah THATS thE problem, LOL!

    WHO TO GIVE THE ‘CREDIT’ TO FOR THIS GLORIOUS DEFENSE…

    HELLO! Forgetting so quickly how BAD this d has been…ALL YEAR…?

    This is funniest post of the night.

    credit. HA!

    THEY BOTH NEED TO GET AZZCANNED THERE BREWMEISTER!

    ===
    ZYMURGE SAYS:

    What we don’t know is how much of the defense is Tarver and how much is DA coaching through Tarver. Let’s not forget that DA’s root are as a DC where he has more NFL experience than Tarver. For all we know, the system is 100% DA and Tarver is his protege.

    Not to say that I don’t like Tarver, but just that we don’t know how much credit each of them get.

  • Just Fire Baby

    I wanted Dom Capers all last offseason.

    Wouldn’t mind him next season as well, but if they fire DA, the new HC will more than likely be an offensive guy.

    And no quality offensive HC prospect is coming aboard to coach 34 year old Carson Palmer.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNoi_wwzbtQ Zymurge

    morilla Says:
    December 23rd, 2012 at 4:40 pm
    Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 23rd, 2012 at 4:35 pm
    I don’t know any non-1st round pick QB’s or Pro Bowl QB’s, that a new organizational structure comes into and hitches their saddle to.

    Especially unproven 3rd round picks.

    TP was toast as soon as Al died.
    ————-

    Don’t be surprised if Reggie goes after Flynn.

    ======

    Now that thought scared me for a couple reasons:

    1) Reggie does seem to love the ex-GB players, even those that get cut, let alone those that get lured away as massively overpaid free agents

    2) Flynn’s brief body of work has a 6 TD game in it that certainly demonstrate him at his best — which usually means it’s all downside from there

    But then when I think about it more, it could be a good thing with the right conditions.

    1) The first is a very low price tag, which I think they can get for him after seeing him beat out by a rookie for a job that all but served up to him on a silver platter. For that to happen, they can’t trade for him because he comes with two hefty years left on his Seattle deal, so he’d have to be cut first. I think the Seahawks will have to cut him even though it’ll mean a $4M cap acceleration. Otherwise, his cap hit in 2013 is over $7M and it goes over $8M in 2014. The catch he is that the FA QB market is going to be thin so he would still generate a decent bidding war and would probably fetch a 3-4 year deal at around $2.5M per year.

    2) They start incorporating a system similar to what GB runs, at least in the passing game. I don’t see them getting away from the ZBS on the running side after what they’ve invested so far. That could mean bringing in a new OC that has WCO roots similar to what he proved he ran well in GB. Maybe he’d go after yet another younf up and comer like Brian McAdoo, who is Green Bay’s QB Coach/Offensive Asst.

  • EMRaiders

    Alley Cat Says:
    December 23rd, 2012 at 5:01 pm
    This is nuts from an earlier post:

    Cable to SEATTLE: Playoffs

    Hue to CINCY: Playoffs

    Knapp leaves HOUSTON: Playoffs

    DA leaves DENVER: Playoffs

    Reggie leaves GREEN BAY: Playoffs

    The time is ripe for Gruden to return to Oakland. Only way to restore this franchise. Only hope. We had the pieces in place to win this year. Just a new DC woulda been fine. But no. We got to ruin everything that Coach Davis was finally putting back together. We were poised. We were at the doorstep. I rest my case.

    ===========

    Great point. Tough to argue with that break down. Considering those team had some great signings, still, interesting to look at it from that point of view.

    GRUDEN 2013!

  • Dakota

    Are you guys coming to South Dakota for the Championship parade? I will be throwing Buffalo Rocky Mountain Oysters from the float!

  • RaiderSam

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 23rd, 2012 at 5:00 pm
    Stink hole chargers got a outside chance at a the last wild card.

    *************************

    How high are you, because they were eliminated last week.

    All the AFC playoff teams are accounted for.

    ————

    How ironic would it be if Norv Turner is coaching against the team he will eventually be the offensive coordinator for?

  • Just Fire Baby

    Just like the QB, the new GM rarely ever keeps the previous HC.

    Al died, and everything went up in the air.

    Just how it works on the business side of things. Everyone is looking out for #1.

  • oakfshow

    Zone blocking sucks.

  • ravenaider

    I jumped the gun this year and thought that maybe we could be a contender.By the time I got to Oakland we were buried and out of playoff contention.

    Cable got us to .500 and we at least were respectable.His last year I went to my first Raider game in the O.It was vs the Rams.I set on Mt Davis.Was just happy to be there…AND THEY WON THAT GAME!!

    Last year,the creative mind and bravado of Hue Jack City had everyone pumped up.Coaching staff was ok with the exception of the “other Chucky” Breshnahan…I came out for the Denver game.It was Palmer’s debut and it would also mark the beginning of Tebow mania.

    Dang…Raiders are 1-3 when I come out there…lol,to keep from crying.

    The way things look now,It’s gonna be awhile before I get back to the O to see my team.This coaching staff is a mess.I hope things gets turned around sooner than later.

  • fingers

    IMO Allen will still be HC next year…. I think he has a pass till he gets his ( Reggie’s) own players…. And the ZBS… Personally I think it’s more to do with Knapps play calling than it is the Scheme…. .. I’d be happy to see Knapp gone.. But I think that’s up for debate too …

  • oklahomaRaider18

    Hire Bruce Arians!!!! He’s a miraculous job with the Colts!!!

  • Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

    Shame on Mark Davis.

    FIRE REGGIE NOW.

  • ENGLANDRAIDER

    Dakota Says:
    December 23rd, 2012 at 5:03 pm
    Are you guys coming to South Dakota for the Championship parade? I will be throwing Buffalo Rocky Mountain Oysters from the float!

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Do the organizers of the parade know about this?

  • Raiders for life

    I believe Allen said when he was hired that he would allow the OC to make the calls and run the offense. (I think) I thought he also said that he would lend a hand with the defense, but his main objective was to oversee the team as a head coach.

    So now the question is has Allen played it smart and kept quiet to the media about how he feels about the Raiders offense?

    After this pathetic season if Dennis Allen doesn’t get it and move on from Knapp, then I agree with most of you. Start over again.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Are you guys coming to South Dakota for the Championship parade?

    ****************************

    I am waiting for the formal invite.

    Nah…..good job man

  • Dakota

    ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    December 23rd, 2012 at 5:06 pm
    Dakota Says:
    December 23rd, 2012 at 5:03 pm
    Are you guys coming to South Dakota for the Championship parade? I will be throwing Buffalo Rocky Mountain Oysters from the float!

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Do the organizers of the parade know about this?
    _______

    Pre-cooked of course.