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	<title>Comments on: Previewing Sunday&#8217;s Raiders vs. Panthers game</title>
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		<title>By: qodrn1</title>
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		<dc:creator>qodrn1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2012 23:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Raider Prediction Board

Dedicated to Al Davis, Raider duct tape (boy does it hold) and the Coliseum rodents

Week 1: Alex7: Chargers 27 Raiders 20 (22/14)
Week 2: R8eray: Dolphins 20 Raiders 13 (35/13)
Week 3: Plunketthead Raiders 30 Steelers 27 (34/31) R
Week 4: Amysincharge: Denver 48-7 (37-6)
Week 5: Klas Tjorborn: Falcons 35 Raiders 20 (23/20)
Week 6: qodrn: Raiders 27 Jags 20 (26/23 OT) R
Week 7: raidermarty/VaRaiderNation Raiders 27 –
Chiefs 17 (26/16) R
Week 8: Bye Week.
Week 9: JONGRUDEN2012: Baltimore 47 Oakland 13
Week 10: GG: Saints 45 Raiders 17
Week 11: GG: 34-16 Panthers
Week 12: backstageatapupptshow: Cleveland 27 Oakland 13 – reverse winner – Albert B. Paine 20/17
Week 13: Cork: Denver 33 Raiders 13 (26/13)
Week 14: Plunketthead Raiders 25 Missouri 17 (15-0) R

DKnight007 Says: Carolina 24 Raiders 10
dr_robert Says: raiders 24 panther 13
GG Says: Carolina 44 Oakland 17
LondonAl Says: 24-17 to Raiders
Mulligan44 Says: Panthers 41 Raiders (3 FGs)
 Plunketthead Says: Raiders 26 Possumheads 17
Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure:Raiders 38 Camolina 21
qodrn: Raiders 27 Carolina 24
RaiderCrunch Says: Oak28 Car 10
RaiderRetribution Says: Raiders 28 Carolina zero
 RaiderRockstar: Dirty Pirates 24 Black Panthers 17</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raider Prediction Board</p>
<p>Dedicated to Al Davis, Raider duct tape (boy does it hold) and the Coliseum rodents</p>
<p>Week 1: Alex7: Chargers 27 Raiders 20 (22/14)<br />
Week 2: R8eray: Dolphins 20 Raiders 13 (35/13)<br />
Week 3: Plunketthead Raiders 30 Steelers 27 (34/31) R<br />
Week 4: Amysincharge: Denver 48-7 (37-6)<br />
Week 5: Klas Tjorborn: Falcons 35 Raiders 20 (23/20)<br />
Week 6: qodrn: Raiders 27 Jags 20 (26/23 OT) R<br />
Week 7: raidermarty/VaRaiderNation Raiders 27 –<br />
Chiefs 17 (26/16) R<br />
Week 8: Bye Week.<br />
Week 9: JONGRUDEN2012: Baltimore 47 Oakland 13<br />
Week 10: GG: Saints 45 Raiders 17<br />
Week 11: GG: 34-16 Panthers<br />
Week 12: backstageatapupptshow: Cleveland 27 Oakland 13 – reverse winner – Albert B. Paine 20/17<br />
Week 13: Cork: Denver 33 Raiders 13 (26/13)<br />
Week 14: Plunketthead Raiders 25 Missouri 17 (15-0) R</p>
<p>DKnight007 Says: Carolina 24 Raiders 10<br />
dr_robert Says: raiders 24 panther 13<br />
GG Says: Carolina 44 Oakland 17<br />
LondonAl Says: 24-17 to Raiders<br />
Mulligan44 Says: Panthers 41 Raiders (3 FGs)<br />
 Plunketthead Says: Raiders 26 Possumheads 17<br />
Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure:Raiders 38 Camolina 21<br />
qodrn: Raiders 27 Carolina 24<br />
RaiderCrunch Says: Oak28 Car 10<br />
RaiderRetribution Says: Raiders 28 Carolina zero<br />
 RaiderRockstar: Dirty Pirates 24 Black Panthers 17</p>
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		<title>By: DJ Johnny</title>
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		<dc:creator>DJ Johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 16:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t recall a season where we had this little attention or coverage.

I laugh at &quot;Around the League Live&quot; cuz the title suggests they&#039;ll be covering all 32 teams..but Raiders get NOTHING...which is actually a good thing for a season like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t recall a season where we had this little attention or coverage.</p>
<p>I laugh at &#8220;Around the League Live&#8221; cuz the title suggests they&#8217;ll be covering all 32 teams..but Raiders get NOTHING&#8230;which is actually a good thing for a season like this.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 16:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just fire

Have to have a running game to sell.

It has been my point on many posts. When you have strong line play i gives the coordinators far more degrees of freedom for creativity.

I simply do not think many on this blog realize how line play impacts calls.
Example; Knapp has his hands tied with Barnes at RT. Barnes needs help all the time on passing downs against good DE&#039;s.

The same with Tarver. We can not bring pressure on the QB with only four and we can not stop good running teams consistently. Therefore; live by the blitz-die by the blitz.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just fire</p>
<p>Have to have a running game to sell.</p>
<p>It has been my point on many posts. When you have strong line play i gives the coordinators far more degrees of freedom for creativity.</p>
<p>I simply do not think many on this blog realize how line play impacts calls.<br />
Example; Knapp has his hands tied with Barnes at RT. Barnes needs help all the time on passing downs against good DE&#8217;s.</p>
<p>The same with Tarver. We can not bring pressure on the QB with only four and we can not stop good running teams consistently. Therefore; live by the blitz-die by the blitz.</p>
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		<title>By: J Hill</title>
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		<dc:creator>J Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 16:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My opinion is that beating KC, Carolina and SD (or even 2 of the 3) to close out this season will have no bearing whatsoever on how we perform in 2013.

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You can&#039;t be serious.

Carolina team on the road?

Division road win?

You don&#039;t think winning breeds confidence?

&quot;NO&quot; bearing????

Surely it will have SOME bearing on next year.

Oh, and I agree we need a new play caller.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My opinion is that beating KC, Carolina and SD (or even 2 of the 3) to close out this season will have no bearing whatsoever on how we perform in 2013.</p>
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<p>You can&#8217;t be serious.</p>
<p>Carolina team on the road?</p>
<p>Division road win?</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t think winning breeds confidence?</p>
<p>&#8220;NO&#8221; bearing????</p>
<p>Surely it will have SOME bearing on next year.</p>
<p>Oh, and I agree we need a new play caller.</p>
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		<title>By: RAIDERMAN99</title>
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		<dc:creator>RAIDERMAN99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 16:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a likely scenario that we can win these last two games, and only “fall” in the draft maybe 2 spots from where we are today.
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Is that something like our scoring is &#039;only&#039; down 2 points a game ?

Or our win total is &#039;only&#039; down 2 games ?

We don&#039;t know how the draft will play out.

The difference between drafting 3rd or 6th could be huge.

Not only in terms of player selection, but in trade possibilities.

It&#039;s very easy to overestimate the importance of winning these last two games and underestimating the potential benefits of losing them.

I don&#039;t believe that the &#039;carry-over&#039; effect from season to season is significant.

I believe that our draft position carries more significance.

Enough to &#039;dump&#039; games this year ? Probably not.

But I really don&#039;t care if the Raids win these last two.

And I can see how losing them can help.

If we do lose, I hope we get SHUT OUT.

Got to SCRAP THE KRAPP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a likely scenario that we can win these last two games, and only “fall” in the draft maybe 2 spots from where we are today.<br />
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Is that something like our scoring is &#8216;only&#8217; down 2 points a game ?</p>
<p>Or our win total is &#8216;only&#8217; down 2 games ?</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t know how the draft will play out.</p>
<p>The difference between drafting 3rd or 6th could be huge.</p>
<p>Not only in terms of player selection, but in trade possibilities.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s very easy to overestimate the importance of winning these last two games and underestimating the potential benefits of losing them.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe that the &#8216;carry-over&#8217; effect from season to season is significant.</p>
<p>I believe that our draft position carries more significance.</p>
<p>Enough to &#8216;dump&#8217; games this year ? Probably not.</p>
<p>But I really don&#8217;t care if the Raids win these last two.</p>
<p>And I can see how losing them can help.</p>
<p>If we do lose, I hope we get SHUT OUT.</p>
<p>Got to SCRAP THE KRAPP.</p>
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		<title>By: SLAYER</title>
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		<dc:creator>SLAYER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 16:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TO HECK WITH MORE COACHIN&#039; CHANGES. NO MO OF THAT. KEEP ALLEN AND KNAPP AND TARVER FOR A FEW YEARS...EVEN IF THEY GO 5-11 NEXT YEAR...NO MO COACHIN&#039; CHANGES. ALLEN HAS A FOUR YEAR DEALIO. LET HIM HAVE AT LEAST HIS FOUR YEARS. HE HIRED KNAPP FOR THE LONG RUN NOT JUST THIS YEAR. TARVER IS BECOMING A GREAT DC. GIVE THEM YEARS NOT MONTHS. JOHN GRUDEN IS NOT THE ANSWER. GO RAIDERS AND GO LUCIFER. 666</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TO HECK WITH MORE COACHIN&#8217; CHANGES. NO MO OF THAT. KEEP ALLEN AND KNAPP AND TARVER FOR A FEW YEARS&#8230;EVEN IF THEY GO 5-11 NEXT YEAR&#8230;NO MO COACHIN&#8217; CHANGES. ALLEN HAS A FOUR YEAR DEALIO. LET HIM HAVE AT LEAST HIS FOUR YEARS. HE HIRED KNAPP FOR THE LONG RUN NOT JUST THIS YEAR. TARVER IS BECOMING A GREAT DC. GIVE THEM YEARS NOT MONTHS. JOHN GRUDEN IS NOT THE ANSWER. GO RAIDERS AND GO LUCIFER. 666</p>
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		<title>By: morilla</title>
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		<dc:creator>morilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 16:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the kind of game that the Raiders usually win. Nothing to prove, nothing to play for. And it won&#039;t be mentioned on the networks. Like it never happened, a black hole in a parallel universe sucking up time, space and matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the kind of game that the Raiders usually win. Nothing to prove, nothing to play for. And it won&#8217;t be mentioned on the networks. Like it never happened, a black hole in a parallel universe sucking up time, space and matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 16:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rockstar

Very good post.
It brings back the reality of 1963.
Mr. Davis rookie
Ron Wolf rookie.

Worked out pretty well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rockstar</p>
<p>Very good post.<br />
It brings back the reality of 1963.<br />
Mr. Davis rookie<br />
Ron Wolf rookie.</p>
<p>Worked out pretty well.</p>
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		<title>By: Just Fire Baby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Just Fire Baby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 16:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I put absolutely no stock in the ‘carry over’ argument I’ve seen brought up here and in other places.

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So winning are first East Coast morning game in 3 years, would do nothing for the youngsters returning next years confidence?

GTFOH</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I put absolutely no stock in the ‘carry over’ argument I’ve seen brought up here and in other places.</p>
<p>*************************</p>
<p>So winning are first East Coast morning game in 3 years, would do nothing for the youngsters returning next years confidence?</p>
<p>GTFOH</p>
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		<title>By: Just Fire Baby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Just Fire Baby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 16:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a likely scenario that we can win these last two games, and only &quot;fall&quot; in the draft maybe 2 spots from where we are today.

Al Davis would want to win the games.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a likely scenario that we can win these last two games, and only &#8220;fall&#8221; in the draft maybe 2 spots from where we are today.</p>
<p>Al Davis would want to win the games.</p>
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