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		<title>By: rodn5yn</title>
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		<dc:creator>rodn5yn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2012 23:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charlie Says: 
December 24th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
The point I keep trying to make is that coaching “success” or progress has far more to do with on the field talent as opposed to scheme, motivation or in game adjustments and play calls.

The examples I have showed you are proven “winners” who started off poorly TILL THEY GOT BETTER TALENT.

I am not saying for a minute that DA reminds me of Gruden or Madden or Bilichick or Shanahan.

What I am saying is that our talent level is far lower than many of you care to accept. Compound that with key injuries and you have a recipe for disaster. Hue corrected his one big injury by taking away key draft picks. Do you think we would have been 8-8 with Bollar? He also had Bush to cover for Dmac. With all the cap issues we could not afford Bush. All Hue did was mortgage our future a bit more than Mr Davis did.
That is why no experinced HC would come near this place and it is why DA has a 4 year deal.
This is a 3-5 year project.

With an 8-8 team being $20 million over the cap and no first or second round picks how would we get better in one year?
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So do you think this team would be 4-11 with any of the top 10 coaching staffs in the league.

I see progress with the defense (Tarver). The others not so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charlie Says:<br />
December 24th, 2012 at 1:00 pm<br />
The point I keep trying to make is that coaching “success” or progress has far more to do with on the field talent as opposed to scheme, motivation or in game adjustments and play calls.</p>
<p>The examples I have showed you are proven “winners” who started off poorly TILL THEY GOT BETTER TALENT.</p>
<p>I am not saying for a minute that DA reminds me of Gruden or Madden or Bilichick or Shanahan.</p>
<p>What I am saying is that our talent level is far lower than many of you care to accept. Compound that with key injuries and you have a recipe for disaster. Hue corrected his one big injury by taking away key draft picks. Do you think we would have been 8-8 with Bollar? He also had Bush to cover for Dmac. With all the cap issues we could not afford Bush. All Hue did was mortgage our future a bit more than Mr Davis did.<br />
That is why no experinced HC would come near this place and it is why DA has a 4 year deal.<br />
This is a 3-5 year project.</p>
<p>With an 8-8 team being $20 million over the cap and no first or second round picks how would we get better in one year?<br />
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<p>So do you think this team would be 4-11 with any of the top 10 coaching staffs in the league.</p>
<p>I see progress with the defense (Tarver). The others not so much.</p>
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		<title>By: rodn5yn</title>
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		<dc:creator>rodn5yn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2012 16:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4_t0LhW04I</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4_t0LhW04I" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4_t0LhW04I</a></p>
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		<title>By: rodn5yn</title>
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		<dc:creator>rodn5yn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2012 16:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>david Ausberry is in Knapps doghouse for this:

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-cant-miss-plays/0ap2000000115491/WK-16-Can-t-Miss-Play-Allen-all-over-it?continuous=true</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>david Ausberry is in Knapps doghouse for this:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-cant-miss-plays/0ap2000000115491/WK-16-Can-t-Miss-Play-Allen-all-over-it?continuous=true" rel="nofollow">http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-cant-miss-plays/0ap2000000115491/WK-16-Can-t-Miss-Play-Allen-all-over-it?continuous=true</a></p>
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		<title>By: rodn5yn</title>
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		<dc:creator>rodn5yn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2012 16:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>148.GG Says:
December 24th, 2012 at 1:37 pm 
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David Ausberry&#039;s situation is a mystery. He&#039;s like Reece used to be, a playmaker being ignored and not played by the coaching staff.

It&#039;s like he&#039;s being punished or something. When every time the ball has come his way, he&#039;s made an extraordinary play.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>148.GG Says:<br />
December 24th, 2012 at 1:37 pm<br />
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David Ausberry&#8217;s situation is a mystery. He&#8217;s like Reece used to be, a playmaker being ignored and not played by the coaching staff.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like he&#8217;s being punished or something. When every time the ball has come his way, he&#8217;s made an extraordinary play.</p>
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		<title>By: rodn5yn</title>
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		<dc:creator>rodn5yn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2012 16:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>209. Zymurge Says:
December 24th, 2012 at 6:07 pm 
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The point is, if Pryor isn&#039;t the guy, and the staff knows it, then why is he still here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>209. Zymurge Says:<br />
December 24th, 2012 at 6:07 pm<br />
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<p>The point is, if Pryor isn&#8217;t the guy, and the staff knows it, then why is he still here?</p>
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		<title>By: rodn5yn</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2012 16:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Though I&#039;d rather take CJ Mosley at MIKE, he&#039;s staying at Bama another year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though I&#8217;d rather take CJ Mosley at MIKE, he&#8217;s staying at Bama another year.</p>
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		<title>By: rodn5yn</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2012 16:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems better to stay in a 4-3 and take Bjoern Werner at DE, and Shayne Skov at MLB. Watching film, none of the projected higher draftees get off blocks as well as these two guys, and they can thump.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems better to stay in a 4-3 and take Bjoern Werner at DE, and Shayne Skov at MLB. Watching film, none of the projected higher draftees get off blocks as well as these two guys, and they can thump.</p>
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		<title>By: WenzhouRaider</title>
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		<dc:creator>WenzhouRaider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2012 06:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wanted to run this by anybody who cares.

With J.Jones and Star Lotulelei as the top D prospects next april. Where would our current quality defensive players fit in a 34 alignment?

I realize DA wants to mix it up back and forth, but wanted to see where people thought: Miles Burris, Phil Wheeler, Houston, Bryant, and Shaughnessy fit in a 34.

Shaughnessy and Houston seem good at 5Tech

Burris AND Wheeler in the middle?

If Star, then who at OLB?

If J.Jones, then who at NT?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wanted to run this by anybody who cares.</p>
<p>With J.Jones and Star Lotulelei as the top D prospects next april. Where would our current quality defensive players fit in a 34 alignment?</p>
<p>I realize DA wants to mix it up back and forth, but wanted to see where people thought: Miles Burris, Phil Wheeler, Houston, Bryant, and Shaughnessy fit in a 34.</p>
<p>Shaughnessy and Houston seem good at 5Tech</p>
<p>Burris AND Wheeler in the middle?</p>
<p>If Star, then who at OLB?</p>
<p>If J.Jones, then who at NT?</p>
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		<title>By: Zymurge</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2012 02:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DKnight007 Says: 
December 24th, 2012 at 2:17 pm 
Eastoaklandraider Says:
 December 24th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
 Just Fire Baby Says:
 December 24th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
 TP should be getting more reps, no doubt.
 
But you can’t just start him and give him a bunch of drives if he isn’t earning it in practice.
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Thats just it, I dont trust these coaches, and they arent even using Pryor the correct way. Do they see how Wilson, Kappy, RGIII,or Cam is used? Bring in some of that college O an give the kid a shot with it. Even Tebow did ok with it last year.

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None of you all seem to be getting it. Papa just essentially said the guy is a bloomin&#039; idiot and can&#039;t get the plays right in practice. That&#039;s not about reps with the 1st string. It&#039;s saying that he can&#039;t process all of the information fast enough and then screws up things like which drop to take, let alone trying to spot the right matchups.

The difference between Pryor and all the QBs mentioned above is that they are all smart enough to play NFL QB. They all Wonderlic&#039;s in the 20&#039;s (Kaep had a 35!). Pryor had a frickin&#039; 7. All the speed in the world can&#039;t overcome that as a QB. 

And don&#039;t even get me started on what Pryor said about knowing all the plays. He&#039;s too dumb to realize that he doesn&#039;t actually know them! Show me an example of any backup player in any sport that had been with the team for a decent amount of time and pronounced themselves not ready yet in terms on knowing the system. Go ahead, I&#039;m waiting ... OK, you failed. Now understand that every backup out there is usually quick to proclaim how ready they are to be the starter, because that is the nature of pro sports.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DKnight007 Says:<br />
December 24th, 2012 at 2:17 pm<br />
Eastoaklandraider Says:<br />
 December 24th, 2012 at 1:37 pm<br />
 Just Fire Baby Says:<br />
 December 24th, 2012 at 1:20 pm<br />
 TP should be getting more reps, no doubt.</p>
<p>But you can’t just start him and give him a bunch of drives if he isn’t earning it in practice.<br />
 ————–</p>
<p>Thats just it, I dont trust these coaches, and they arent even using Pryor the correct way. Do they see how Wilson, Kappy, RGIII,or Cam is used? Bring in some of that college O an give the kid a shot with it. Even Tebow did ok with it last year.</p>
<p>======</p>
<p>None of you all seem to be getting it. Papa just essentially said the guy is a bloomin&#8217; idiot and can&#8217;t get the plays right in practice. That&#8217;s not about reps with the 1st string. It&#8217;s saying that he can&#8217;t process all of the information fast enough and then screws up things like which drop to take, let alone trying to spot the right matchups.</p>
<p>The difference between Pryor and all the QBs mentioned above is that they are all smart enough to play NFL QB. They all Wonderlic&#8217;s in the 20&#8217;s (Kaep had a 35!). Pryor had a frickin&#8217; 7. All the speed in the world can&#8217;t overcome that as a QB. </p>
<p>And don&#8217;t even get me started on what Pryor said about knowing all the plays. He&#8217;s too dumb to realize that he doesn&#8217;t actually know them! Show me an example of any backup player in any sport that had been with the team for a decent amount of time and pronounced themselves not ready yet in terms on knowing the system. Go ahead, I&#8217;m waiting &#8230; OK, you failed. Now understand that every backup out there is usually quick to proclaim how ready they are to be the starter, because that is the nature of pro sports.</p>
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		<title>By: Zymurge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zymurge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2012 02:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says: 
December 24th, 2012 at 2:25 pm 
GG Says:
 Pryor – Lechler 1-2 and both getting extended action at QB.
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Making an assumption there.

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Yeah, given that choice I&#039;d go Lechler 1, Pryor about 6th. 

I think we need to see what McClain can do under center first. I mean, he was a 1st round draft pick right? He&#039;s a freak combination of size and speed. Gotta see what we got, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:<br />
December 24th, 2012 at 2:25 pm<br />
GG Says:<br />
 Pryor – Lechler 1-2 and both getting extended action at QB.<br />
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<p>Making an assumption there.</p>
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<p>Yeah, given that choice I&#8217;d go Lechler 1, Pryor about 6th. </p>
<p>I think we need to see what McClain can do under center first. I mean, he was a 1st round draft pick right? He&#8217;s a freak combination of size and speed. Gotta see what we got, right?</p>
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