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Palmer hospitalized in Bay Area, out for Chargers game

Starting quarterback Carson Palmer spent the night in a local hospital as a result of the broken ribs and bruised lung he suffered from a helmet-to-back hit against the Carolina Panthers.
Coach Dennis Allen said Palmer will not play Sunday in Oakland’s regular-season finale against the San Diego Chargers.
Palmer was taken to Eden Medical Center as soon as the Raiders landed in Oakland on Sunday night, where he spent the night under observation. He was released Monday afternoon.
Veteran Matt Leinart and second-year player Terrelle Pryor will be considered for the starting job against the Chargers, Allen said. Leinart relieved Palmer against the Panthers. Pryor played three snaps.
“Our plan right now is to work both of them this week,” Allen said, “and then we’ll see how practice goes. Later in the week, we’ll be ready to name a starter.”
Allen said the Raiders will not sign another quarterback between now and Sunday’s game. Therefore, punter Shane Lechler will be the No. 3 quarterback.
Palmer on Sunday got drilled from behind by Panthers defensive end Greg Hardy as he prepared to throw a pass from the right side of the field late in the first quarter.
Hardy was penalized 15 yards for roughing the passer on the play. Palmer stayed down for several minutes, while being tended to by team athletic trainers.
Palmer started the first 15 games this season and passed for 4,018 yards, with 22 touchdowns and 14 interceptions. He joined Rich Gannon as the only players to pass for 4,000 yards or more in a season.
Allen called Pryor “a work in progress,” adding that Pryor works hard in practice and is making strides toward earning more playing time. On Sunday, Allen said Pryor isn’t ready to be the backup just yet.
On Monday, Allen added: “I don’t know that he’s got full command of everything that we’re doing. But I wouldn’t expect a lot different out of any other young quarterback. He’s got to continue to work, and he’s done a nice job.”
Allen gave players the day off Monday. Therefore, Pryor and others weren’t available for comment.

– The incident from Sunday’s game in which Panthers quarterback Cam Newton bumped referee Jerome Boger is being reviewed by the league office.
Newton took umbrage with the way he was tackled by Raiders safety Mike Mitchell and yelled at Boger. In the process, Newton bumped Boger.
Boger penalized Newton for “disrespectfully addressing” an official. He added that Newton’s contact with him was not of “malicious nature.” Newton apologized to Boger after the game.

– The Raiders are assured of finishing in third place in the AFC West, regardless how they fare against the Chargers.
Therefore, they now know that they will play a third-place schedule in 2013, which means they host the third-place team from the AFC North (Pittsburgh Steelers) and play on the road against the third-place team from the AFC East (Miami Dolphins or New York Jets).
Their 14 other games are: Denver Broncos, Chargers and Kansas City Chiefs, home and away; Jacksonville Jaguars, Tennessee Titans, Philadelphia Eagles and Washington Redskins at home; Indianapolis Colts, Houston Texans, Dallas Cowboys and New York Giants on the road.

– The Chiefs and Jaguars will pick first and second in the 2013 NFL draft. The Raiders are one of three teams at 4-11. The Raiders would pick third if they wind up tied with the Eagles and Lions, the two other 4-11 teams right now, based on a weaker strength-of-schedule.
It’s conceivable that the Raiders could wind up as one of seven teams in a tie at 5-10. If so, it’s likely that they still would get the No. 3 pick.

– The Raiders allowed 419 points through their first 15 games. They need to hold the Chargers to 13 or fewer if they are to better last season’s total.
The 1961 Raiders allowed the most points in a season, when they surrendered 458. Worse, that came in a 14-game season.

– Strong safety Tyvon Branch (ankle), cornerback Phillip Adams (groin) and right guard Mike Brisiel (concussion) emerged from the Panthers game at less than full strength. They are questionable for the Chargers game.

– Allen declined to assess the performance of offensive coordinator Greg Knapp and defensive coordinator Jason Tarver.
“I don’t think this is the time,” Allen said. “We do have one game left. There will be time to assess all aspects of the organization, coaching staff included. We’ll do that at some point after the season.”

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  • Scourge

    That just won’t do!

  • Scourge

    Okay, Scourge, I’m gonna keep my ideas to myself! Just you wait!

  • Scourge

    Someday, you’ll need a clue, and I’m not gonna give you one. You’ll be clueless and I’ll be standing there grinning to myself. smh

  • Scourge

    Th following example of how to utterly waste 30 minutes was brought to you as a community service! Please feel free to use any of it, in it’s original form or wildly modified, for you own needs.

  • Scourge

    Thank you, thank you, but please hold your applause! I appreciate all your appreciation!

  • Just Fire Baby

    Anyone who says this kid isn’t very mobile is a freaking MORON. Drew Bledsoe probably ran more like a 5.7 same as Brady in the mid5’s. Smith is at least in the 4.5 or 4.6 and to say that isn’t mobile is very silly.

    *********************************

    Good old Priest, starts with the name-calling, finishes with some wildly inaccurate statistic.

    Bledsoe ran a 4.7, hence the reason why Mel Kiper compares Geno Smith to him.

    It took less than 15 seconds to google Drew’s forty time, but your panties are in such a tizzy to yell at me with the name-calling, you can’t even do that to not look like an idiot.

    But thanks for not, because that wouldn’t be as fun.

  • hwnrdr

    Good Morning Nation!
    I hope everyone’s Christmas was good!
    I say start Pryor, why not? That way, we know if we need another QB or we got one for next year!!! (Backup) at least!

  • Just Fire Baby

    bigsnow81 Says:
    December 26th, 2012 at 1:08 am
    I don’t understand the “slave” comment of college athletes. A person that receives a scholarship to attend a university is the antithesis of a slave.

    ****************************

    There was a great article written in SI on the debate of whether to pay athletes or not, with a wide-ranging panel of current and former players, AD’s, etc.

    The current player was an LSU WR (forget his name), who said that for 3 years he thought it was ridiculous he didn’t get paid.

    Then he started dating a girl who was not on any type of scholarship. She had to pay for everything from books, to tuition, to rent, to food, doc visits, etc. He started to take leftovers from the training table home for dinner for her and so on.

    He said it opened his eye to how much he really “makes” in college and believed then, that athletes do not need to be paid.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Here is how I think it will go:

    -Start Leinart and give him two series. No matte how that goes, Pryor plays the rest of the first half. If TP plays better, he gets the whole 2nd half. If Leinart plays better, he starts the 3rd quarter, and TP still gets at least one series or until the game is out of reach.

    At least that’s what I would do, lol

  • Scourge

    Good luck getting a conversation going this morning, gents. I tried earlier and ended up talking to myself. :-(

  • Raider-in-PA

    Happy Holidays fellow Raider brethren!!

    #809, sounds good to me… He!!, I’d rather see what Lechler can do rather than sit thru another game with Lionheart at the helm!! Is it me or is Leinert just flat out unexciting to watch? Watching him play is like pleasuring yourself with a condom on…

  • Just Fire Baby

    Leinart stinks, hated that signing.

    Makes you realize, even with his flaws, how “Exciting” a backup Gradkowski was.

    At least he would come in with some panache and start slinging it around.

    No way does Bruce throw a 4th and 4 checkdown with the game on the line. That wasy typical Leinart.

  • DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL

    GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S.WITH CP3 OUT,PRYOR PLAYS THE ENTIRE GAME.WITH THAT SAID,IF THIS IS THE LAST GAME IN A RIADER UNIFORM FOR #9,GIVE SHANE A SERIES AT QB.WHAT THE HELL !!!

  • hwnrdr

    I agree…at least Bruce will try to win the game…

  • Just Fire Baby

    I know some people think that Leinart isn’t the future (which he isn’t) so you have to just play TP all game to see what he has.

    But you owe to the rest of the locker room to play the best guy.

    That’s why Al didn’t say anything when Charlie Frye was playing ahead of Jamarcus the end of 2009.

    The easy solution would be for Pryor to have a lights-out week of practice and EARN the starting gig.

    Hope it happens.

  • Raider-in-PA

    I know not all on this blog cared for Grads, but he was exciting to watch!!… The win he pulled out of his arse against the SteAlers, was one for the ages… He had something that Im not sure many on this Raiders team have and thats heart and a will to win! Too bad he’s backing up the young ginger now…

  • Raider-in-PA

    Whats the over/under on number of days after this Sunday that we find out Knapp has been given a pink slip??

  • Scourge

    If only Grads was a FA at the end of the season….

  • Scourge

    Raider in PA…where in PA?

  • Raider-in-PA

    Smack-dab in the middle of Happy Valley, but dont assume Im a PSU football fan!!

    You in PA too?

  • Scourge

    No, sh*t! You one of O’Brien’s Lions?

  • Just Fire Baby

    Whats the over/under on number of days after this Sunday that we find out Knapp has been given a pink slip??

    ******************************

    3 days.

    One day off, one day for exit interviews, one day to announce it.

  • Scourge

    I was passing by the Family Clothesline on Sunday afternoon and almost bought one!!!

  • Scourge

    One=an O’Brien’s Lions t-shirt

  • Scourge

    R-PA, I live in the Holmes-Foster district.

  • DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL

    POST-817,366.I THINK THEY WILL GIVE HIM ANOTHER YEAR.UNFORTUNATLY..

  • hwnrdr

    You said it there…unfortunately!

  • Scourge

    If they give him another year, it oughta be as Saunder’s asst’s asst.

  • Raider-in-PA

    Scourge:

    I am a PSU alumnus, although Im not an O’Brien Lion… I do enjoy the cheerleaders though…lol

    Holmes-Foster, I know where youre at! How did you come to be a Raiders fan??

  • Raider-in-PA

    What up Hawaiian Raider, did Saint Nick track you down??

  • Scourge

    When I was little and lived outside of Philly, my (older) brother turned me on to them on TV. Ben Davidson and all. I’m not a fanatic. I follow them more than Eagles and Steelers (and Nittany Lions). I’m an PSU grad too

  • Scourge

    RinPA, in what general area of HV are you?

  • Scourge

    RiPA…cheerleaders are nice but the dance team….they’re the ones!

  • Raider-in-PA

    Good to hear about the Raider Nation in the Philly area!

    I was born and raised in Philipsburg, PA as a Raiders FANATIC!! Dads first cuz is Raiders MLB Dan Conners (’64-’75) who was the defensive captain in the days of Big Ben Davidson and the ’11 Angry Men’… Dan hails from St. Marys, PA…

    If you watched NFLN’s ‘A Football Life – Immaculate Reception’, you’ll see Dan in the refs faces after the game, probably arguing the non-clipping call on Phil V…

  • Scourge

    RiPA, cool!!!

    One of the! years I lived in the dorms, Matt Millen was two doors down from me.

  • Raider-in-PA

    * non-call on the clipping of Phil V.

  • Raider-in-PA

    Millen and Dan both donned the ‘double nickels’ #55

  • Scourge

    I didn’t realize until last year that Jon Condo is from P-O area.

  • Scourge

    RiPA, you work for the local college?

  • hwnrdr

    Raider-in-PA Says:
    December 26th, 2012 at 6:54 am
    What up Hawaiian Raider, did Saint Nick track you down??

    Yes he did…lol…ate my dam cookies! LOL

  • Raider-in-PA

    Yes, it was kind of surreal that Jon was picked up by the Raiders… Ive known him since he was a boy.. P-O’s last state champ wrestler… all around good guy!

    I work for Glenn O. Hawbaker as an engineer/estimator, you?

  • Scourge

    I’m finishing up some grad school work at the local college.

  • Scourge

    Sure is a small world!

  • Charlie

    Good morning PA brethren

    I see the Knapp comments and thought I would try to put my perspective on the matter.

    News quote:
    “Still, the simple truth is that Knapp was not the Raiders’ first choice. He was hired after the Raiders interviewed a couple other candidates, and even that was long after pretty much every other team in the league had their coaching staff already set.
    There remains a distinct possibility that Knapp will return in 2013. Maybe for the sake of continuity, or because it’s not as simple as most fans think to “upgrade” at a coaching position.”

    We got our staff based upon good recommendations from around the league for young, intelligent, energetic, process oriented teachers to help build a winning team.

    DA; Significant promotion and 4 year deal
    Tarver; Significant promotion
    Knapp; Lateral but returns home

    THOSE GUYS CAME HERE BECAUSE IT WAS GOOD FOR THEM EITHER FOR PERSONAL OR PROFESSIONAL REASONS.
    From a career perspective Oakland is a massive high risk challenge that few want anything to with.
    Can you name another organization in sports where multiple candidates for the head job have told their prospective employer to get lost?
    Off the top for RECENT Raider “opportunities” I can think of Petrino, Sarkisian, Arians, Whisenhunt and Payton. Just flat out blew us off. These guys never had been an HC in the NFL and they told us to forget it.
    DA got a 4 year deal because this is a long term project and he could have simply bided his time with Denver, possibly win a second Super Bowl with Peyton then have been an even hotter commodity for a job in Philly or Chicago. Clubs that have nowhere near the issues we have now. Think DA did not have that cross his mind when he required a 4 year deal???

    A guy like Gruden or Del Rio would have been great but they can afford to be much more selective because they have already done the job and know the challenges we face. Why would any experienced HC want to come here???
    1. MASSIVE CAP ISSUES
    2. NO first round pick since 2010 and missing our second round pick in 2012 and 2013.
    3. Grossly over rated and over aged players especially on the line of scrimmage.
    4. Without the title of GM this experienced HC only has limited input into cap issues and player selection. (As Parcells used to say when courted for other HC jobs having already been one, “If you want me to make dinner, you need to let me buy the groceries”).

    Further, Gruden and Del Rio both fell victim to the fact that AS GOOD AS THEY ARE; THEY WERE UNABLE TO WIN WITHOUT TALENT!!!!! Lack of talent is the PRIMARY reason that our present staff and the SIX THAT HAVE PRECEEDED THEM FOR THE PAST TEN YEARS COULD NOT PRODUCE A WINNING SEASON LET ALONE GET TO THE PLAYOFFS. SEVEN DIFFERENT STAFFS IN TEN YEARS!!!! LACK OF TALENT.
    Reggie, Mark and DA know this is a 4 year project. Otherwise 4 year deals would not have been offered! 3-5 YEARS TO UNRAVEL THIS MESS.

  • Scourge

    Hi, Charlie…

    Well said. I can agree with most. I’m not sure Knapp should return. I’d also make Saunders OC/AHC.

  • Raiderbuck

    I think just about anyone would be better than Knapp. I could be wrong, but I can tell what plays he’s running before the ball is snapped. That means that opposing DC know exactly what he’s doing, because I’m not a X’s and O’s guy.

    He’s awful and he should have been gone long before now.

  • Raider-in-PA

    Happy Holidays, Charlie!!… Always spelling it out for us with reality and without BS or personal takes…

    Do you think DA appealed to Reggie because 1. for DA, coming to Oakland was a huge promotion and 2. if things dont work out with DA as a HC, Reggie has an easy out and built-in excuse?

    OR do you think Reggie really believes DA can right the ship?

  • Scourge

    Oh, my! Maria Molina is doing the weather on Fox. She used to do the same on Accu-weather just down the road.

  • Charlie

    Scourge

    I think DA and Reggie did the best they could by keeping Saunders on the staff for continuity purposes to help Knapp.

    I like Saunders and he has a wealth of knowledge.

    I just do not think that a coordinator as a rule makes any where near the impact with a team that has the talent limitations we have on the Oline. Injuries have played a part in that but Carlisle and Barnes would not be starting for any other team in the NFL.
    That is a huge liability that limits what you can really do as an OC.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Al brought Knapp back for a 2nd year, after failing in his first year.

    I don’t think Reggie makes the same mistake by bringing him back.