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Palmer hospitalized in Bay Area, out for Chargers game

Starting quarterback Carson Palmer spent the night in a local hospital as a result of the broken ribs and bruised lung he suffered from a helmet-to-back hit against the Carolina Panthers.
Coach Dennis Allen said Palmer will not play Sunday in Oakland’s regular-season finale against the San Diego Chargers.
Palmer was taken to Eden Medical Center as soon as the Raiders landed in Oakland on Sunday night, where he spent the night under observation. He was released Monday afternoon.
Veteran Matt Leinart and second-year player Terrelle Pryor will be considered for the starting job against the Chargers, Allen said. Leinart relieved Palmer against the Panthers. Pryor played three snaps.
“Our plan right now is to work both of them this week,” Allen said, “and then we’ll see how practice goes. Later in the week, we’ll be ready to name a starter.”
Allen said the Raiders will not sign another quarterback between now and Sunday’s game. Therefore, punter Shane Lechler will be the No. 3 quarterback.
Palmer on Sunday got drilled from behind by Panthers defensive end Greg Hardy as he prepared to throw a pass from the right side of the field late in the first quarter.
Hardy was penalized 15 yards for roughing the passer on the play. Palmer stayed down for several minutes, while being tended to by team athletic trainers.
Palmer started the first 15 games this season and passed for 4,018 yards, with 22 touchdowns and 14 interceptions. He joined Rich Gannon as the only players to pass for 4,000 yards or more in a season.
Allen called Pryor “a work in progress,” adding that Pryor works hard in practice and is making strides toward earning more playing time. On Sunday, Allen said Pryor isn’t ready to be the backup just yet.
On Monday, Allen added: “I don’t know that he’s got full command of everything that we’re doing. But I wouldn’t expect a lot different out of any other young quarterback. He’s got to continue to work, and he’s done a nice job.”
Allen gave players the day off Monday. Therefore, Pryor and others weren’t available for comment.

– The incident from Sunday’s game in which Panthers quarterback Cam Newton bumped referee Jerome Boger is being reviewed by the league office.
Newton took umbrage with the way he was tackled by Raiders safety Mike Mitchell and yelled at Boger. In the process, Newton bumped Boger.
Boger penalized Newton for “disrespectfully addressing” an official. He added that Newton’s contact with him was not of “malicious nature.” Newton apologized to Boger after the game.

– The Raiders are assured of finishing in third place in the AFC West, regardless how they fare against the Chargers.
Therefore, they now know that they will play a third-place schedule in 2013, which means they host the third-place team from the AFC North (Pittsburgh Steelers) and play on the road against the third-place team from the AFC East (Miami Dolphins or New York Jets).
Their 14 other games are: Denver Broncos, Chargers and Kansas City Chiefs, home and away; Jacksonville Jaguars, Tennessee Titans, Philadelphia Eagles and Washington Redskins at home; Indianapolis Colts, Houston Texans, Dallas Cowboys and New York Giants on the road.

– The Chiefs and Jaguars will pick first and second in the 2013 NFL draft. The Raiders are one of three teams at 4-11. The Raiders would pick third if they wind up tied with the Eagles and Lions, the two other 4-11 teams right now, based on a weaker strength-of-schedule.
It’s conceivable that the Raiders could wind up as one of seven teams in a tie at 5-10. If so, it’s likely that they still would get the No. 3 pick.

– The Raiders allowed 419 points through their first 15 games. They need to hold the Chargers to 13 or fewer if they are to better last season’s total.
The 1961 Raiders allowed the most points in a season, when they surrendered 458. Worse, that came in a 14-game season.

– Strong safety Tyvon Branch (ankle), cornerback Phillip Adams (groin) and right guard Mike Brisiel (concussion) emerged from the Panthers game at less than full strength. They are questionable for the Chargers game.

– Allen declined to assess the performance of offensive coordinator Greg Knapp and defensive coordinator Jason Tarver.
“I don’t think this is the time,” Allen said. “We do have one game left. There will be time to assess all aspects of the organization, coaching staff included. We’ll do that at some point after the season.”

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  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Charlie Says:
    December 26th, 2012 at 8:55 am
    Raider O

    As I said earlier trading for Seymour is not what I am suggesting.
    That was a bad move.

    Comparing Ngata with Seymour is not valid. That was questionable at the time of the deal and has proven even more so with experience.

    Further 7 is not enough when our competition is doing more of it and is better at it.

    Just look at the Colts and what their first and second picks were spent on over the last four years.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    The competition is doing more?
    You keep ignoring the fact that 2 of the best teams in the league won multiple SBs without investing high picks in their OL. Boss is right. The problem was the players and not the positions.

  • RaiderSam

    Boss01 Says:
    December 26th, 2012 at 8:17 am
    890.The_Judge37 Says:
    December 26th, 2012 at 8:14 am
    boss01 Says:
    December 26th, 2012 at 8:12 am
    DA said he is considering moving Burris to MLB next season, this means more than likely they will be looking at a D-lineman with the 1st pick.
    ——-

    That doesn’t sound like a good idea, but bad ideas are what’s expected from DA

    Not sold either

    ===================

    I’d only like Burris at MLB, if we were a 3-4 defense with a big NT like Louleilei or Johnathan Hankins in front.

    so

    1- Louleilei
    3- Nico Johnson, ILB, Bama
    4-Sean Porter or Travis Long, Wash St.

    FA
    Conner Barwin, Texans
    Chris Houston, Lions
    Dashon Goldson, Niners

  • Charlie

    Seymour may be a good citizen and family man but relative to his contract and the cost of a first round pick he was a total disaster.

    Seymour (till his terrible contract was amended this season) was the highest paid Raider. He can not even practice let alone play at a high level.

  • Charlie

    RaiderO

    See my post 942.

  • ron69

    DA is kidding Burris to MLB right? although his instincts have improved lately, he still misses too many tackles, he wouldn’t start in about 20 teams.

  • The_Judge37

    Charlie Says:
    December 26th, 2012 at 9:13 am
    Seymour may be a good citizen and family man but relative to his contract and the cost of a first round pick he was a total disaster.

    Seymour (till his terrible contract was amended this season) was the highest paid Raider. He can not even practice let alone play at a high level.
    ———–

    This year, sure, he’s been a bust. But not his fault he got old. His first years here were great though. He’d be better even now if we didn’t have Kelly wasting the 3 tech spot on the line.

    If Seymour can’t be cut this year, Start Bryant and Houston inside, with Seymour as a 3rd down rotational guy at the 3 spot. Limited snaps will increase his production.

  • The_Judge37

    ron69 Says:
    December 26th, 2012 at 9:15 am
    DA is kidding Burris to MLB right? although his instincts have improved lately, he still misses too many tackles, he wouldn’t start in about 20 teams.
    ———

    It sounds like a horrible idea, that’s why i believe it.

  • hellsbells

    Avril, Grant Fa

  • hellsbells

    Star or A&M tackle. Hope we do not trade back to far, need impact players. Star is a beas, has to be doubled even then makes plays. Scared of FSU pass rushers.

  • Charlie

    Judge

    That is my point.
    We can not pay huge dollars for a backup.

    It is our fault we invested a number one for a guy his age. We made it worse by paying huge money.
    That is why NE got rid of him.
    That is what has killed this franchise.

    “In 2010, Al Davis went all out for his football team in an uncapped year and spent the most money in the league at over $150 million in player salaries. That is easily the most money ever spent on a team in the history of the NFL. One thing we know for sure is that Al Davis made his own bed here and whether that is good or bad, he must lie in it. At the other end of the spectrum are the Bengals, who have only $83.5 million in commitments for 2012. The Buccaneers, Titans, Redskins, and Broncos also are under $100 million.”
    “Reports are now coming out that the Raiders cap overshot is actually more like $22 million-twice the original figure. Even at the original $11 million estimation, the Raiders had a lot of work to do. With this new figure, they go from pruning and trimming to SLASH AND BURN.”

    Seymour is gone.

  • Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure

    Scourge Says:
    If they give him another year, it oughta be as Saunder’s asst’s asst.
    ===================================================

    I’ll be your lackey. I’ll be your lackey’s lackey.

  • hellsbells

    DA could be looking for his Von Miller, Jones is solid.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Charlie,

    Andy Reid and the eagles love investing high picks on linemen. How many SBs did they win? Aren’t they 4-11 too?
    The Steelers won 2 SBs with one of the worst OL in the league.

    Again, I agree about investing high picks on the front 7, but I disagree about investing high picks on OL especially interior linemen.

  • Al_is_theraiders

    9 and whine…

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    Lorenzo Oneil and Rod Woodson were ripping the coaching staff this morning.

    Topics were Pryor and Dennis Allens lack of experience in the NFL. Total 7 years.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Hellsbells Says:
    December 26th, 2012 at 9:32 am
    DA could be looking for his Von Miller, Jones is solid.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    I’m not impressed with this kid. I know he is listed at 240+, but looks more like 220+.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    DA lacks experience and he had a few mistakes/ issues:
    1- hiring a good staff
    2- Using TOs
    3- play calling/ adjusting/ maximizing roster production

  • The_Judge37

    Raider O Says:
    December 26th, 2012 at 9:51 am
    DA lacks experience and he had a few mistakes/ issues:
    1- hiring a good staff
    2- Using TOs
    3- play calling/ adjusting/ maximizing roster production
    ———-

    I like how you packed a few into #3, making it look like it’s not that many.

  • RAIDERMAN99

    Have the Raids invested heavily enough draftwise to build the lines ?

    Guess the answer to that would depend on one’s philosophy pertaining to drafting BPA versus drafting for need, the relative importance you place on the lines in comparison to other units, whether one feels quality linemen can be secured through other avenues such as free agwency or later in the draft, etc.

    So the question of whether enough has been invested in building the lines is debatable and really boils down to philosophy and perspective.

    What’s NOT debatable is that the Raids early draft day selections have been incredibly bad. Mid and late rounds and UDFAs have actually been quite good, IMO.

    It’s the continual whiffing and selection of busts (at every position) at the top of the draft that has destroyed this team more than a failure to address any one specific area such as the OLine.

    If we’d have hit on Gallery and Grove we probably wouldn’t be here complaining the OLine has been neglected.

    Also need to consider that we did draft V, signed Barnes, JFB’s boy – ‘Savage’, Breisel, and just selected Bergstrom.

    I’m not going to say we couldn’t or shouldn’t have invested more in the lines – but it should be clear we haven’t invested wisely.

    We’ve invested a TON in the defensive secondary to no avail.

    As Al D used say, it’s more important to be RIGHT than to be CONSISTENT.

    Placing an emphasis on consistently drafting interior linemen is meaningless unless you draft the right guys.

  • The_Judge37

    All i can say is that i’ve never looked foward to an off season more than this year. Not so much excited for next season until i find out what happens this offseason

  • dr_robert

    cb, de/olb, lt, qb, rb are the positions where u like to focus on at the top cuz they are the positions where u can find real difference makers, and they are the rarities. there’s a bigger difference between the elite players at those positions and the average ones than there is at the others.

  • Scourge

    Well, I’m outta here. Things to do before the snow gets too deep.

    Have good day, Nation!

  • bcz24

    926.Raider O Says:
    December 26th, 2012 at 8:30 am
    Te’o is the same size as McClain, similar speed, and both played behind a good DL in college.
    Similar players IMO.
    *******************
    Physically similar players, but Te’o comes off as the type of guy who will work his ass off to be that 4-3 mlb, where romac took the money and ran… well jogged.

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    The Oline was just fine last year.

  • Charlie

    Raider O

    The Oline is as if not more important than the dline.
    That being said, given our lack of picks our diline is in much worse shape that our Oline and it should be our focus in this years draft.
    The Oline will need to wait for 2014. Hopefully Bergstrom can take over for Carlisle.

    We will never be a consistently, strong, winning franchise building our lines with low round draft picks or free agents.
    I have pointed out a reason for your Giants example. My point regarding the Eagles is you have to do it well.

    Taken to another extreme, we will not be able to beat our competition when they consistently use high picks to build this part of their team.
    It is simply the law of averages.
    Better talent is usually available in the first two rounds of the draft as compared to rounds 6 and 7.

    These are typically 270-320 pound athletes that need to have the agility and quickness of college level skill players. We are not likely to find premier or at least very good lineman in the fifth to seventh round or packing out at Wal Mart THAT ARE BETTER THAN WHAT OTHER NFL TEAMS HAVE.

    I simply think that it is a low percentage play on either side of the ball thinking we are going to rebuild both lines well with low round picks.
    Especially given our present state.

  • The_Judge37

    KoolKell Says:
    December 26th, 2012 at 10:04 am
    The Oline was just fine last year.
    ———

    So was the pass rush

  • bcz24

    974.KoolKell Says:
    December 26th, 2012 at 10:04 am
    The Oline was just fine last year.
    ***********
    The oline had pass protection problems last year, but both JC and CP were very good at getting the ball out quickly, which limited our sacks. They took a step back in run blocking this year, but pass protection was about the same.

  • The_Judge37

    bcz24 Says:
    December 26th, 2012 at 10:09 am
    974.KoolKell Says:
    December 26th, 2012 at 10:04 am
    The Oline was just fine last year.
    ***********
    The oline had pass protection problems last year, but both JC and CP were very good at getting the ball out quickly, which limited our sacks. They took a step back in run blocking this year, but pass protection was about the same.
    ———–

    Pass protection was a little better last year because of the play calling. All the misdirection runs, screens and PA’s gave these guys a little bit of an edge when they did have to drop back in traditional pass protection.

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    An ex-con gunned down two firefighters after luring them to his neighborhood by setting a car and a house ablaze early Monday, then took shots at police and committed suicide while several homes burned.

    Authorities used an armored vehicle to help residents flee dozens of homes on the shore of Lake Ontario a day before Christmas. Police restricted access to the neighborhood, and officials said it was not clear whether there were other bodies in the seven houses left to burn.

    The sister of the gunman, who lived with him, was unaccounted for. The gunman’s motive was unknown.

    The gunman fired at the four firefighters when they arrived shortly after 5:30 a.m. at the blaze in Webster, a suburb of Rochester, town Police Chief Gerald Pickering said. The first police officer who arrived chased the suspect and exchanged gunfire.

    He lay in wait outdoors for the firefighters’ arrival, then opened fire probably with a rifle and from atop an earthen berm, Pickering said.

    “It does appear it was a trap,” he said.

    The gunman, William Spengler, had served more than 17 years in prison for beating his 92-year-old grandmother to death with a hammer in 1980 at the house next to where Monday’s attack happened, Pickering said at afternoon news conference. Spengler, 62, was paroled in 1998 and had led a quiet life since, authorities said. Convicted felons are not allowed to possess weapons.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57560719/4-firefighters-shot-2-dead-in-upstate-n.y/
    —————————
    Guns guns guns.

  • dr_robert

    Bcz24 Says:
    December 26th, 2012 at 10:09 am
    974.KoolKell Says:
    December 26th, 2012 at 10:04 am
    The Oline was just fine last year.
    ***********
    The oline had pass protection problems last year, but both JC and CP were very good at getting the ball out quickly, which limited our sacks. They took a step back in run blocking this year, but pass protection was about the same.
    ************

    many differences from last year.

    1) barnes hurt
    2) carlisle slipping
    3) wiz injury/position change
    4) brisiel struggled

  • zopi

    LoNeal, Woodson, and Romo are not giving Junior and his staff a pass any longer.

    Isn’t interesting that the critics of the Raiders coaching in the BA media were ex-players?

    I just wish someone in the presser would press Junior, and don’t let him get away with his robocoach speech. Isn’t a whole season of BS enough? You would think he has repeated the same BS enough already.

    The final game is a time for Junior’s redemption, dump Krappy and his playbook, let Pryor loose, and let it all out on defense. Raiders win big and put a hurt on what’s left of Norv and the doltz.
    Junior is redeemed, Pryor is then guaranteed the starting QB job next season, as the ZarMac begins to truly re-build the team around the young talent. The ZarMac’s redemption would be when he gets rid of Carcux, Big Rich, and the rest of the check-cashers in the team. That’s when I’ll believe the rebuilding is in earnest.

    However, that’s all a fantasy. Junior will continue his embarrassment with Leinart, and just eat the criticizing from not just LoNeal, Woodson or Romo, but from the fans. So, he knows he has the ZarMac’s support, and will be coaching here again to show us his IT factor once again, all robocoach speak, but no game.

  • The_Judge37

    979. During the LA Riots, Firefighters were given guns and body armor. Sounds like the solution here.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    The_Judge37 Says:
    December 26th, 2012 at 9:54 am
    Raider O Says:
    December 26th, 2012 at 9:51 am
    DA lacks experience and he had a few mistakes/ issues:
    1- hiring a good staff
    2- Using TOs
    3- play calling/ adjusting/ maximizing roster production
    ———-

    I like how you packed a few into #3, making it look like it’s not that many.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    I dint like DA, but I think using TOs, calling plays, and adjusting is one point. Game management.
    Allow me to correct myself:
    1- Hiring a good staff
    2- Game managent and preparation
    3- Roster management and maximizing production

  • The_Judge37

    dr_robert Says:
    December 26th, 2012 at 10:14 am
    Bcz24 Says:
    December 26th, 2012 at 10:09 am
    974.KoolKell Says:
    December 26th, 2012 at 10:04 am
    The Oline was just fine last year.
    ***********
    The oline had pass protection problems last year, but both JC and CP were very good at getting the ball out quickly, which limited our sacks. They took a step back in run blocking this year, but pass protection was about the same.
    ************

    many differences from last year.

    1) barnes hurt
    2) carlisle slipping
    3) wiz injury/position change
    4) brisiel struggled

    5) Predictable play calling

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Don’t*

  • bcz24

    KoolKell Says:
    December 26th, 2012 at 10:13 am
    An ex-con gunned down two firefighters after luring them to his neighborhood by setting a car and a house ablaze early Monday, then took shots at police and committed suicide while several homes burned.
    *************
    That was 3 miles from my home in Webster. Insane man.

  • Charlie

    Judge/Kell

    Last year was a different year.

    IT WAS A VERY EXPENSIVE 8-8! The most expensive in NFL History.
    In addition, Carson cost us a second round pick in 2013.

    “As of March 25, 2012, The Oakland Raiders held TWO SELECTIONS in the 2012 NFL Draft (a 5th and 6th round pick), which was just about a month away. The NFL awarded the Raiders three COMPENSATORY PICKS March 26. (A 3rd round 4th round and 5th round pick).”

    “Reports are now coming out that the Raiders cap overshot is actually more like $22 million-twice the original figure. Even at the original $11 million estimation, the Raiders had a lot of work to do. With this new figure, they go from pruning and trimming to SLASH AND BURN in 2012.”

    The Raiders (4-10) have stumbled on the field, but McKenzie, especially, is well-respected around the NFL. He took over a TALENT-POOR TEAM that was stripped of draft picks in 2012.”

    Throw on top of this mess the injury experience we had and no one should be surprised we declined this year.
    Yes 8-8 was very misleading 2011. THE MOST EXPENSIVE 8-8 TEAM IN NFL HISTORY!!!!!!!!!

    Contracts Reggie inherited PRIOR to getting under the cap for 2012:
    DT Richard Seymour $14,068,000
    QB Carson Palmer $12,500,000
    LB Kamerion Wimbley $11,850,000
    CB Stanford Routt $10,785,334
    FS Michael Huff $9,828,750
    RB Darren McFadden $9,478,833
    DT Tommy Kelly $8,874,266
    WR Darrius Heyward-Bey $8,159,000
    LB Aaron Curry $5,757,500
    P Shane Lechler $4,900,000
    TE Kevin Boss $4,750,000
    DT John Henderson $4,750,000
    PK Sebastian Janikowski $4,500,000
    CB Chris Johnson $4,500,000
    LB Rolando McClain $3,640,000
    OG Cooper Carlisle $3,300,000
    FS Hiram Eugene $2,500,000
    DE Lamarr Houston $1,116,250
    SS Mike Mitchell $965,500

    Perhaps you understand why I say this is a 3-5 year project.

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    The_Judge37 Says:
    December 26th, 2012 at 10:16 am

    979. During the LA Riots, Firefighters were given guns and body armor. Sounds like the solution here.
    ——————-
    The solution is always more guns for you simplistic people.

    If guns made us safe, we’d be the safest country in the world.

  • RAIDERMAN99

    Coaching…

    Can anyone tell me why I should feel confident RM is qualified to select a HC or can identify coaching talent ?

    We KNOW Al Davis was qualified and could identify coaching talent.

    Might not have been able to get his man, but the interview process was LEGENDARY.

    Madden, Gruden, Flores, Shanahan attest to his ability to being able to identify guys that could be successful HCs.

    What was RM’s interview with DA like ?

    Did they discuss X’s and O’s ? Can Reggie even do that ?

    Did they discuss philosophy ?

    How long did the interview last ?

    DA was chosen based on what exactly ?

    Resume ? Recommendation ?

    ‘Gut feeling’ ?

    After watching Tits in action and the product he has put on the field I think it’s more than fair to question the vetting process involved in his hire and why we should feel confident Reggie knows what he’s doing when selecting a HC.

  • jesusraiderjim

    Scourge Says:
    December 26th, 2012 at 5:59 am
    Good luck getting a conversation going this morning, gents. I tried earlier and ended up talking to myself.

    ————————————————-
    LOL. You do that all the time anyway!!

  • The_Judge37

    It can’t be overlooked that good coaches also have charisma. Players want to play hard and win for them. DA had one good motivational moment before the Steelers game, it worked, and then that was the last time we heard of that.

  • The_Judge37

    KoolKell Says:
    December 26th, 2012 at 10:19 am
    The_Judge37 Says:
    December 26th, 2012 at 10:16 am

    979. During the LA Riots, Firefighters were given guns and body armor. Sounds like the solution here.
    ——————-
    The solution is always more guns for you simplistic people.

    If guns made us safe, we’d be the safest country in the world
    ——-

    Maybe there’s just not enough guns per person

  • DKnight007

    882.Raider O Says:
    December 26th, 2012 at 8:10 am
    Luke Kuechly is smaller and faster than Te’o.
    Luke is 240 and Te’o is 260.

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Te’o is 250…not 260.

    Te’o is just as good as Kuechly.

    D Moore, Te’o, Werner, D Jordan or Star should be the Raiders pick this year.

  • bcz24

    988.KoolKell Says:
    December 26th, 2012 at 10:19 am
    The_Judge37 Says:
    December 26th, 2012 at 10:16 am

    979. During the LA Riots, Firefighters were given guns and body armor. Sounds like the solution here.
    ——————-
    The solution is always more guns for you simplistic people.

    If guns made us safe, we’d be the safest country in the world.
    **************
    How does banning guns fix the problem? Criminals don’t follow the rules.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Bcz24 Says:
    December 26th, 2012 at 10:04 am
    926.Raider O Says:
    December 26th, 2012 at 8:30 am
    Te’o is the same size as McClain, similar speed, and both played behind a good DL in college.
    Similar players IMO.
    *******************
    Physically similar players, but Te’o comes off as the type of guy who will work his ass off to be that 4-3 mlb, where romac took the money and ran… well jogged.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    I know he is a hard worker and a leader (experts said the same things about McClain), but that doesn’t mean he is going to have success as a 4-3 MLB.

  • The_Judge37

    There is no easy solution for bouts of madness.

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    I have no idea what qualifies DA for a head coaching job. Why would Reggie hire such a green guy to rebuild a franchise, was one of the questions by Lorenzo O’Neil and Rod Woodson this morning on 95.7.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Allen_(American_football)

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    How does banning guns fix the problem? Criminals don’t follow the rules.
    ———————–
    You cant let murderers have guns, like the killer above. Close all these loopholes, make guns harder to get.

  • The_Judge37

    I don’t understand why John DeFilippo was brought back, he must be Greg Knapp’s son or something. His only two NFL QB students are Jamarcus Russell and Mark Sanchez.

    And this is the guy who’s had OTA’s, Training Camp, Preseason and 15 regular season games to get Terrelle Pryor “Not even close to Ready”?

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    DKnight007 Says:
    December 26th, 2012 at 10:25 am
    882.Raider O Says:
    December 26th, 2012 at 8:10 am
    Luke Kuechly is smaller and faster than Te’o.
    Luke is 240 and Te’o is 260.

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Te’o is 250…not 260.

    Te’o is just as good as Kuechly.

    D Moore, Te’o, Werner, D Jordan or Star should be the Raiders pick this year.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    The sites I visited have him listed at 255 or 260, and not one site had him listed at 250.