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Seymour, Branch, Brisiel not at practice

By Steve Corkran
Thursday, December 27th, 2012 at 11:54 am in Oakland Raiders.

The Raiders are 72 hours or so away from their regular-season finale against the San Diego Chargers. As each day passes, it becomes more and more apparent that defensive tackle Richard Seymour, right guard Mike Brisiel and strong safety Tyvon Branch won’t be able to play, at least at full strength.
All three missed practice today, which makes it likely that Seymour will miss an eighth straight game, Brisiel will be replaced by rookie Tony Bergstrom and Branch might give way to Mike Mitchell rather than risk further injury to his sore ankle.
Branch has played the past two games on the sore ankle, though he wasn’t able to finish the game against the Carolina Panthers last Sunday.

– Quarterback Carson Palmer turned 33 today and defensive tackle Tommy Kelly hit 32.
Palmer won’t play Sunday as a result of the fractured ribs and bruised lung he suffered against the Panthers. He was spotted driving away from the team facility as practice started.
Coach Dennis Allen said Palmer also won’t accompany the team to San Diego because of the danger inherent in flying with a bruised lung.

– Quarterbacks Terrelle Pryor and Matt Leinart are splitting reps at practice in light of Palmer’s absence. It remains uncertain which player will start Sunday.
Allen said Pryor and Leinart split the reps evenly at practice Wednesday, though Pryor made it sound as if Leinart received the majority of the snaps.
“Matt started with the first team for a good bit, and I was getting like the last two or three snaps,” Pryor said. “Not much but more than I was. I’m happy about it. It’s an opportunity and I’m looking forward to it.”
Leinart last started a game Nov. 27, 2011, when he was with the Houston Texans. He suffered a broken collarbone in that game and missed the remainder of the season.
Pryor, of course, has not started a game during his two NFL seasons. He has appeared in three games, with six snaps altogether.

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  • JLofty

    If Greg Knapp was Dennis Allen’s 4th choice who were choices 1-3 and wtf didn’t Mark’s Hair cut the d@mn check that gets them in the building?!?

  • http://www.mywifeisadog.com KoolKell

    Rainy Cranium Says:
    December 27th, 2012 at 3:02 pm

    Any truth to the rumor Gruden is coming back?
    ======================
    Did you read what I said, bich?
    Safeway encounters never lie.

  • The_Judge37

    293.Rainy Cranium Says:
    December 27th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
    Any truth to the rumor Gruden is coming back?
    ————

    Yup, I saw him and his family at the supermarket this past weekend, Asked him if he’d come back to coach the Raiders and he said, “Anything you say mister, please, just don’t hurt my family”

    I feel confident for 2013

  • oakfshow

    Hue laughing all the way to the playoffs.Will be a oc or hc next year.

  • JLofty

    Hahaha Kook. Whats the matter, wifey leave you at home whilst she goes on a business trip?

  • http://www.mywifeisadog.com KoolKell

    Reg/Knapp/Da are here to stay.
    Just heard it from my sources at HQ, who I also ran into at Safeway.

  • John David Booty

    After this season, I think Knapps name is pretty much dirt in NFL circles as far as coordinators go. This will without a doubt be his last OC gig at this level. If he’s lucky, he’ll be coaching at Sac State next season.

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    KoolKell Says:
    December 27th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
    JLofty Says:
    December 27th, 2012 at 2:58 pm

    If Gregg Knapp is still employed at 1220 Harbourbay Parkway this time next week, I am going to, well, be REALLY upset!!!
    ==========
    Who cares? is this your Romper Room time?
    ——————————
    JLofty, I’m not you’re biggest fan, but that wasn’t me. It’s Alex7 posting as me.

  • http://www.mywifeisadog.com KoolKell

    JLofty Says:
    December 27th, 2012 at 3:07 pm

    Hahaha Kook. Whats the matter, wifey leave you at home whilst she goes on a business trip?
    ———————
    Fuk you, bich.

  • Raider Fan Extraordinaire

    This season was proof positive that we need coaches who know football. Coaches who understand personel. The scheme has not worked offensively all season. Not one bit of it. Now is the time for a complete overhaul. Take out the garbage. Bring back Jon Gruden.

  • http://www.mywifeisadog.com KoolKell

    308 is not me.

  • http://www.mywifeisadog.com KoolKell

    309 is me.

  • Dan78

    Rainy Cranium Says:
    December 27th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
    Any truth to the rumor Gruden is coming back?
    ——-
    Well some poster said he talked to Gruden today in Safeway and told him he is not coming back…

  • The_Judge37

    311. Are you telling me I can have a KoolKell name of my very own?

  • Baja Jawumba

    Just ran into Reggie and DA at a local greasy spoon hole in the wall. You’d think they could afford better food. Anyway, I asked Reggie if Gruden was coming back, and he said maybe. That the ball was in his court. DA just stared at his eggs and hash browns. He looked pissed.

  • http://www.raiderettes.com RamblingRose

    Let’s see.
    1st koolkell post 3:05.
    At 3:07 Koolkell then posts that the 3:05 post is not his.

    So it’s true. You are cross posting. No way in hell that 3 days in a row you show up minutes after a post, saying it’s not you, unless you were here all along, under another name.

    So, how many names you have, cross poster?

    No wonder you accuse everyone of being a cross poster.
    IT’S BECAUSE YOU ALSO DO IT, AND FIGURE EVERYONE IS.

    LOSER.

  • http://www.raiderettes.com RamblingRose

    sO ALL THESE NEW NAMES, ALL THIS TIME, ARE KOOLKELL, CROSSPOSTING?

    SAD.

  • J Hill

    …..which then leads me to the depressing thought of us arguing in here five years from now on the eve of 2018 and the Raiders still sucking azz…..

    ———————————————————-

    LMFAO

  • J Hill

    I have a bad feeling there not going to fire knapp, but if they dont then everybody will lay off the koolaid next year except a few who want “continuity”

    ————————————————————-

    I can’t imagine Knapp being back. I just can’t see it.

  • Reggies Butler

    Just ran into Reggie at Safeway. Asked him if Knapp was coming back. He said the grass isn’t always greener on the other side of the hill, but if you look real hard, sometimes the man in the moon is grinning. But even tho you can lead a horse to water, you cannot make him drink it. I know I’ve tried. No matter where the rainbow ends, there is not a pot of gold under it.

  • RaiderDebo

    DKnight007 Says:
    December 27th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
    281.John David Booty Says:
    December 27th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
    Eastoaklandraider Says:
    December 27th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
    Who was the coach when we were 8-2 and when we played the cowboys the game was billed as a SB preview, instead the cowboys tore a patch out our ass and we finished up at 8-8.
    ——————————————–
    I believe you would be referring to a Mr. Mike White. AKA Hue Jackson 1.

    ^^^^^^^
    Mike White ran a WCO system, thats why he took over from Art Shell Part 1, because Shell and Walsh were getting Hostetler killed with the 7 step drops.

    Hue ran a system similar to what Baltimore runs but with more downfield passing.

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Maybe it’s not Knapp and his system, but it’s the QB and his limitations crewing this team over. Let’s get Knapp a new QB and see what happens.

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    Should we keep Knapp? Does Knapp deserve to be kept on? No.

  • The_Judge37

    320.Reggies Butler Says:
    December 27th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
    Just ran into Reggie at Safeway. Asked him if Knapp was coming back. He said the grass isn’t always greener on the other side of the hill, but if you look real hard, sometimes the man in the moon is grinning. But even tho you can lead a horse to water, you cannot make him drink it. I know I’ve tried. No matter where the rainbow ends, there is not a pot of gold under it.
    ———–

    LOL, nice try but a little too coherent to be a Reggie Quote

  • http://singleness-of-purpose 909RaiderLifer

    Fellow semi-pros, I present to you Greg Knapp, Super Genius!
    “““““““““““““““““““““““““““`
    Vic Tafur @VicTafur 1h
    Asked OC Greg Knapp why he hasn’t used Terrelle Pryor more in red zone, given team’s struggles there …

    Vic Tafur @VicTafur 1h
    Knapp: “We haven’t developed as big a red zone package as we would have liked. We’ve been focused on 3rd downs and getting to the red zone.”
    “““““““““““““““““““““““““““`
    Mesnsa candidate?…..

  • Gdog

    oakfshow Says:
    December 27th, 2012 at 3:03 pm

    What was Allen supposed to do about an offense that he prolly knows nothing about?

    He was supposed to leave the 9th ranked offense alone,instead went to zonecocking scheme.Sealed our fate right there. DA get out!!

    >>>>>

    He is responsible for hiring Knapp, I agree. But the point is that he is making progress with the stuff he didn’t turn over to Knapp.

    As a HC with defensive training ONLY, Allen trusted Knapp with the entire offense. Thus the responsibility lies mostly at Knapps feet. Thats how business hierarchy works.

    Now if Knapp retains his job and we are the 29th ranked running attack again next year… the responsibility shifts to Allen. He has a chance to make changes this off-season, and from reading most Raider forums, that is what is EXPECTED.

  • The_Judge37

    324.909RaiderLifer Says:
    December 27th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
    Fellow semi-pros, I present to you Greg Knapp, Super Genius!
    “““““““““““““““““““““““““““`
    Vic Tafur @VicTafur 1h
    Asked OC Greg Knapp why he hasn’t used Terrelle Pryor more in red zone, given team’s struggles there …

    Vic Tafur @VicTafur 1h
    Knapp: “We haven’t developed as big a red zone package as we would have liked. We’ve been focused on 3rd downs and getting to the red zone.”
    “““““““““““““““““““““““““““`
    Mesnsa candidate?…..

    ————

    FML

  • oakfshow

    Stop blaming Knapp.We knew what he was.Start blaming the jackass who hired him,and the jackass who hired that jackass.

  • Gdog

    Knapp: “We haven’t developed as big a red zone package as we would have liked. We’ve been focused on 3rd downs and getting to the red zone.

    >>>>

    Please tell me someone is just messing with us.

    This is not an actual quote is it? If so, he should be fired as soon as the final whistle Sunday.

  • ottocrat

    I ran into Jon Gruden in the Kowloon section of Hong Kong, and he said “Ni Hao!”

  • oakfshow

    I ran into Gruden at the bar.He said” the dumbest fans in the world are on this blog.”

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNoi_wwzbtQ Zymurge

    John David Booty foolishly replied to:

    [...]
    Either way, most here are judging the effectiveness of the line by the running game success. And the facts show that the running game was just fine with RBs in there that actually were on the same page with the system they were blocking in. So who really regressed here?
    ————————————————-
    When McFadden is in the game, teams focus on stopping him WAY more than they do if another RB is in. There is absolutely no denying that. I think its WAY more likely for an offensive line as a unit, who is being taught a different scheme, by bad coaches who cant implement well in Pollack and Knapp, along with players like Cooper Carlisle and Wiz playing out of position, to be accused of regression over 1 RB, who many believed was #2 in the league behind Peterson before the season started.

    If people around here want to convince themselves that Mike Goodson is as good or a better player than DMac, cool. Whatever. I disagree 200%. Like Ive said a million times, Im sure Bill Belichick would have no problem knowing how to use DMac.

    Knapp , Pollack, our line, and McFadden are easy for teams to game plan against. If all of you are so convinced McFadden regressed, we’ll see what happens when he goes elsewhere, and plays for competent coaches and game planners.

    ======

    Oh, that makes total sense! So the other teams only actually tried to stop the run when DMac was back there, but they didn’t really care when someone else was in the backfield. They were perfectly happy to give up 4.9 yards per rush attempt when it wasn’t DMac, based on his Raiders blog reputation.

    I guess that just shows how brilliant the Raiders coaching staff actually is then, because they gave about 40% of the carries to the other guys. It was the perfect counter to get the other teams to stop worrying about the run.

    Mike Goodson is actually as good or better of a RB in the Raiders system. He has the stats to prove it. Unfortunately, he seems to also be equally as fragile. Still, he costs less than 10% of DMac this season. So for your money, you’re getting 10 times the player. In fact, Goodson, Reece AND Stewart — all players that did better in this system (thanks to the other teams not paying attention to them) combined cost less than 20% of DMac’s cap hit this season.

    DMac can only effectively run behind gaping holes where he can use his sprinter speed to try to outrun safeties. That spells for a limited career in the NFL. He is a decent blocker as a RB, which I’ll give him the edge over all the other backs on the Raiders, and used to be a better receiver until he got a serious case of the dropsies this season. And then of course you only get 8-10 games a season out of a guy that is the third most expensive player on the team. He not only regressed more than most, but he and Seymour together are easily the worst bang for the buck players on the roster.

    Oh wait, DMac is worth all that money because his presence means the other teams don’t try to stop the run when he’s not on the field. So in reality he’s a real expensive decoy. Brilliant!

  • oakfshow

    Lesson #1 Mark. Never hire a guy who’s bottom lip is bigger than his head.Gauranteed to be a retard.

  • oakfshow

    I ran into Reggie on a recent camping trip,I asked what the hell is wrong with your bottom lip? He said GOONY GOO GOO!

  • mcfadden20.

    Code black