Pryor to start against Chargers
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, December 28th, 2012 at 12:40 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Terrelle Pryor will start the regular-season finale against the San Diego Chargers Sunday, Raiders coach Dennis Allen said.
“I’ve decided to go with Terrelle Pryor as our quarterback,’’ Allen said Friday following practice. “He’ll play in the game and we’ll see how the game goes. He’s the starter, and we’re going to go into it as we would any other game.’’
Allen said Pryor and Matt Leinart had been told earlier in the week Pryor was the likely starter.
“I wanted to see how each player responded,’’ Allen said. “I thought Terrelle responded well. I think he gives us a unique element of athleticism at the quarterback position and I think he deserves to get an opportunity to get out there and see what he can do.
“I’m anxious to see him play. I want to see him get out there and relax, play the game of football the way it’s supposed to be played. I want to see him take command of the huddle. I want to see us get in and out of the huddle and the operation be smooth. I want to see him protect the football, make sure he makes good decisions.’’
Allen said Leinart “didn’t like’’ the decision and tha the didn’t expect him, as a competitor, to like it.
Pryor has played only six snaps in the past two games, a there-and-out series against the Kansas City Chiefs and three specialty plays against the Carolina Panthers where he was a shotgun quarterback with Carson Palmer or Matt Leinart split wide.
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December 28th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Finally!
December 28th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Zymurge Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Dakota Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
76.RaiderDebo Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
Sunday’s game just became must-see TV!
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Probably for the first two offensive series, and then people will be like….”Oh, so that’s why he never got to play! Boy, I hope those Carson Palmer retirement rumors are false!”
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That’s what my money says will happen. After he runs through the 4 or 5 plays he’s mastered and can mostly remember, then what’s he going to do? Drop back, look bewildered and then take off running on every play.
I’m actually glad that this is happening. It’s the first key step in convincing Pryor to convert positions once he realizes that this QB thing ain’t so easy.
December 28th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
This sets up a situation where Knapp and DA both stay. If Pryor kills it, continuity is the best thing for our 2013 opening day starter.
December 28th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
TP!
I hope the rest of the offense shows up for him
December 28th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
December 28th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Cool. At least it will give this meaningless game some juice.
December 28th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
Zymurge Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Zymurge Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Dakota Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
76.RaiderDebo Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
Sunday’s game just became must-see TV!
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Probably for the first two offensive series, and then people will be like….”Oh, so that’s why he never got to play! Boy, I hope those Carson Palmer retirement rumors are false!”
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That’s what my money says will happen. After he runs through the 4 or 5 plays he’s mastered and can mostly remember, then what’s he going to do? Drop back, look bewildered and then take off running on every play.
I’m actually glad that this is happening. It’s the first key step in convincing Pryor to convert positions once he realizes that this QB thing ain’t so easy.
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Just stop the hate. Give the kid a chance.
December 28th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Zymurge Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Dakota Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
76.RaiderDebo Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
Sunday’s game just became must-see TV!
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Probably for the first two offensive series, and then people will be like….”Oh, so that’s why he never got to play! Boy, I hope those Carson Palmer retirement rumors are false!”
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That’s what money says will happen. After he runs through the 4 or 5 plays he’s mastered and can mostly remember, then what’s he going to do? Drop back, look bewildered and then take off running on every play.
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So he knows half of Knapps whole playbook? lol
December 28th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
Raiders haven’t scored a TD in 3 weeks. That changes this week.
TP + DMAC + Reece in the backfield = dangerous
December 28th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
So it is all the Bengals O-line turning things around and not the QB making all the money throws at the end of games?
So they won’t skip a beat if Gradkowski fills in for Dalton?
December 28th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
I’m shocked!
December 28th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
If nothing else this will end the endless and insufferable whining that the people considering him the savior never get to see him play.
This was actually an easy decision.
Keeps the fans happy and it allows them to evaluate the need for drafting a future QB.
December 28th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
T.P. is gonna wipe up the Chargers like the dingle berries they are. GO RAIDAZ!!!!!
December 28th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
I hope Pryor looks awesome….so we can fool another team into trading for him….and they can then see how defenses play him once they have tape on him.
If we can get a Kolb-like trade done that would be great!
Arizona is always a good mark for robbing picks from….they might be interested.
December 28th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
Why annouce it now????
why not let them continue to scheme for both????
December 28th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
TP will keep drives alive with his feet – the rushing numbers should be much better this week.
Raiders might actually win this game! Will affect draft position but if TP can prove he belongs with a win, I’ll take it!!
December 28th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
” I want to see him take command of the huddle. I want to see us get in and out of the huddle and the operation be smooth.”
the stupidest things are important to this staff…
December 28th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
12.Gdog Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
If nothing else this will end the endless and insufferable whining that the people considering him the savior never get to see him play.
This was actually an easy decision.
Keeps the fans happy and it allows them to evaluate the need for drafting a future QB.
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It was an easy call three weeks ago. This game will mean very little. You have to have several games to really evaluate a QB.
We lost that opportunity, and unless Pryor looks like total dog poo, we will still not know what we have for sure after this game.
December 28th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Thec Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
Why annouce it now????
why not let them continue to scheme for both????
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I think practice is over for both teams. Raiders on the way to Diego.
December 28th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Debo you like Knapp as the OC?
December 28th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Believe me, I hope so bad that TP kicks @ss out there. I would love to feel like we will have a good young QB on our team… But, the level headed person in me says, “Don’t get too excited about this. More then likely there will be a mix of good and ugly QB play from TP. I just hope they let him play the whole game, and don’t just pull the plug if he isn’t looking good. They need to let him play the whole thing out.
December 28th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
15.Thec Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
Why annouce it now????
why not let them continue to scheme for both????
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Last minute ticket sales?
December 28th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
” I want to see him take command of the huddle. I want to see us get in and out of the huddle and the operation be smooth.”
the stupidest things are important to this staff…
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Not sure what to belive coming from DA. I would just assume belive nothing until it happens. Da is a professional liar.
December 28th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
So it is all the Bengals O-line turning things around and not the QB making all the money throws at the end of games?
So they won’t skip a beat if Gradkowski fills in for Dalton?
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Hate to say it, but Bruise might make them a tad better. And it’s not just the OL. Tune in to a game sometime and you might notice that they’re pretty badass on D too. That’s with guys like Pacman and Burfict kicking ass. It’s crazy, but the Bengals are in so many ways what the Raiders used to be. Eccentric owner doing it his way and making stars out of castoff, renegade players. That’s my team for the playoffs.
December 28th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
Dakota Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
15.Thec Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
Why annouce it now????
why not let them continue to scheme for both????
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Last minute ticket sales?
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Game is in SD… F the disc… I would have prefered they let the chargers know at 12:30 on sunday who was starting.
December 28th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
Why annouce it now????
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To let Pryor get the enjoyment of being the starting QB, and all that comes with it.
Media attention, interviews with the CBS announcers, etc.
It will be good for him. Also, if he is going to be a legit #1 QB, f this “schemeing for two guys” theory.
“here I am, I am going to put it on you.”
That should be the mentality, a winners mentality.
December 28th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
He’s the starter, and we’re going to go into it as we would any other game.’’
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Really? You mean you’re not going split Leinart out wide every play????????
December 28th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
You want them to scheme for Pryor.
You want to see him with no ‘what ifs’..
December 28th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
25.Thec Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
Dakota Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
15.Thec Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
Why annouce it now????
why not let them continue to scheme for both????
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Last minute ticket sales?
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Game is in SD… F the disc… I would have prefered they let the chargers know at 12:30 on sunday who was starting.
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You do know that road teams get a cut of the gate don’t you?
December 28th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
Dennis allen…”ok pryor you can start….with our backups backup right guard…”
December 28th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Allen said Leinart “didn’t like’’ the decision…
Leinart still pouting instead of being a team player.
Just sad. I don’t want this guy back next year. He’s toast in the NFL. Good luck in whatever phase of life you go into next.
Signed,
Matt Leinart’s last remaining fan.
December 28th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
I’m wondering how mediocre he has to play before the “Pryor = savior” people declare him the starter next year over CP?
250 yards total. One TD. Three INTs sound about right?
December 28th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
I wonder if that was Mistic on 95.7 just now. A serious Palmer hater whoever it was. LOL
December 28th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
LOL at tuning in….
I am not going to get on my high-horse like some of you and pretend I know more about football than others. I stick to facts, enjoy the debate, and never jump to conclusions to claim a blog victory beore things have played out.
But if you saw the man-cave, it is not humanly possible to consume more football than I do.
Not possible.
December 28th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
You want Leinart to be happy he isnt starting?
LOL.. Come on son..
December 28th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
You do know that road teams get a cut of the gate don’t you?
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No this is a new concept…lol
December 28th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
About time you fùcking clowns!
December 28th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
Gdog Says:
Keeps the fans happy and it allows them to evaluate the need for drafting a future QB.
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Except there are no good QBs to take in this draft.
December 28th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Wonder what the line moved around with the new announcement?
Actually, probably was off the boards until it was announced. If not, tells you Vegas doesn’t care either way who starts.
December 28th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Debo you like Knapp as the OC?
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I know I’ll take heat, but I don’t hate the guy. I think he’s actually put Palmer in a pretty good position to succeed. I love the boot action and the zone scheme seems to work for every RB on the roster not named McFadden. With the right QB and RB, I think his offense would be really good. And I really think he and Di Fillipo are great with young players. JaMarcus was coming along with those guys. I was pissed we didn’t retain them and swapped them out for Hackett and Tollner. If he gets fired, I’m not going to complain because we sucked this year. But I would have no problem with his return either. I might even root for the guy.
December 28th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Damm this is terrible. Now what am i going to b!tch about?…….Uhh, Fire Knapp!
December 28th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
14-27 235 Yards 1 TD 1 INT
93 Rushing Yards 1 TD
Raiders 24
Chargers 21
December 28th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
40.RaiderDebo Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Debo you like Knapp as the OC?
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I know I’ll take heat, but I don’t hate the guy. I think he’s actually put Palmer in a pretty good position to succeed. I love the boot action and the zone scheme seems to work for every RB on the roster not named McFadden. With the right QB and RB, I think his offense would be really good. And I really think he and Di Fillipo are great with young players. JaMarcus was coming along with those guys. I was pissed we didn’t retain them and swapped them out for Hackett and Tollner. If he gets fired, I’m not going to complain because we sucked this year. But I would have no problem with his return either. I might even root for the guy.
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lmao….that was funny! Good one!
December 28th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
Last minute ticket sales?
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Game is in SD… F the disc… I would have prefered they let the chargers know at 12:30 on sunday who was starting.
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You do know that road teams get a cut of the gate don’t you?
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Stupid and simply hateful.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
TP, at the least, will be more difficult for the Chargers to gameplan against than Matt Leinart would be. Game planning against Matt Leinart and Greg Knapp is probably as easy as it gets for any DC. With TP, no one really knows what to expect. Not our staff, and certainly not opposing defenses. Its the reason Denver was more successful with Tebow than Orton last year. Not because Tebow is a better QB, but because he threw defenses off balance with them not really knowing what to expect.
Win or lose, whether TP looks bad or good, this game, sadly, may be the most exciting game for Raiders fans all season. Because at least there will be some element of surprise. I look forward to seeing what happens.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
don’t practice pryor all season and don’t practice him very much this week and now hes starting.. great idea you sabotaging dìcks..
December 28th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Staff realized that can’t intercept a ball when you skip it to the WR as opposed to Fluttering it in the air
December 28th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Game winning 43 yard TD run for Pryor..
a la Mike Vick in ATL..
December 28th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Saw this on another blog. Thought it would fit today:
Dear Matt Leinart,
We hate you.
Signed,
Everybody
December 28th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
John David Booty Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
Win or lose, whether TP looks bad or good, this game, sadly, may be the most exciting game for Raiders fans all season. Because at least there will be some element of surprise. I look forward to seeing what happens.
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Yep.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Id like to know how you guys on here know exactly what goes on in practice?..
Interesting that you would form an opinion on such little information.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
More difficult to game plan for? People do not game plan for the Raiders. Opposing teams spend 15 minutes on the Tuesday before the Raider game looking at the Raiders, and then they start preparing for the team they will play in about 12 days.
Playing us with this coaching staff is as good as a bye week for other NFL teams.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
You want Leinart to be happy he isnt starting?
LOL.. Come on son..
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No, not at all. I expect him to be upset, just like Dennis Allen said he expected him to be.
I also expect him to be a professional and shut up. What do you say? Coach, I don’t like youre decision. No. You shut up, continue to work, and try to help Pryor prepare, because it is still a RAIDERS game, not Matt Leinart Vs. the world.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
the sign of a good head coach always put your players in the best position to fail…
December 28th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
Probably for the first two offensive series, and then people will be like….”Oh, so that’s why he never got to play! Boy, I hope those Carson Palmer retirement rumors are false!”
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LMAO.
Certainly possibly (frankly, likely) TP struggles. But what an opportunity. I have a feeling he’ll make the best of it.
You’ll probably see some spectacular plays and some head-scratchers.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
This start will show absolutely nothing,nada,zilch. D.a. Fuc up and now he’s going to ruin any chance T.P. has at being a q.b.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Lots of info on practice. Where you been?
December 28th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
John David Booty Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
You want Leinart to be happy he isnt starting?
LOL.. Come on son..
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No, not at all. I expect him to be upset, just like Dennis Allen said he expected him to be.
I also expect him to be a professional and shut up. What do you say? Coach, I don’t like youre decision. No. You shut up, continue to work, and try to help Pryor prepare, because it is still a RAIDERS game, not Matt Leinart Vs. the world.
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Apparently you didnt read the quote from Leinart on the subject..
Holy moly lol..
December 28th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Marks hair Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Lots of info on practice. Where you been?
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The 30 minute window the media is allowed is not plenty of info..
December 28th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
“He’ll play in the game and we’ll see how the game goes. He’s the starter, and we’re going to go into it as we would any other game.’’
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Translation: “I’m yanking his @$$ at the very first indication he’s struggling.”
December 28th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
LOL at tuning in….
I am not going to get on my high-horse like some of you and pretend I know more about football than others. I stick to facts, enjoy the debate, and never jump to conclusions to claim a blog victory beore things have played out.
But if you saw the man-cave, it is not humanly possible to consume more football than I do.
Not possible.
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Happy you have a “man-cave”. But this has nothing to do with a “high-horse”. I just don’t see how anyone who has been watching Bengals games can say that Andy Dalton is awesome and that he’s better than Cam Newton. But I can see someone who doesn’t watch any games, but who reads the sports page every Monday morning saying that.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Im happy for TP6..
Finally we get to see a properly executed bootleg too!
December 28th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Any other team’s fans fight so much about mid-round picks who have rotted on the bench for nearly two seasons?
December 28th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
A lot of rookie and young QB’s play their best ball before the league has some film on them.
I expect Pryor to play fairly well, especially outside of the pocket.
Takes awhile for NFL teams to know whether the blitz from the right side rattles you more than the left, your tendacies and so on and so forth.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Dakota Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Any other team’s fans fight so much about mid-round picks who have rotted on the bench for nearly two seasons?
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Aaron Rodgers sat the bench for 3 years..
December 28th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
41.The_Judge37 Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Damm this is terrible. Now what am i going to b!tch about?…….Uhh, Fire Knapp!
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Uh… infield sucks!
December 28th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
U guys get ur boy and ur already making excuses for him? Lol. I hope he does well. But I’m thinking 180 yards 2 ints 45 yards rushing 1 td 1 fumble. And at least 5. “What the fu@k was that?” passes.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
63.Dakota Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Any other team’s fans fight so much about mid-round picks who have rotted on the bench for nearly two seasons?
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Lions, Jags, Rams, Bills, Bengals fans?
December 28th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
65.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Dakota Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Any other team’s fans fight so much about mid-round picks who have rotted on the bench for nearly two seasons?
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Aaron Rodgers sat the bench for 3 years..
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Lol, yeah, behind a HOF QB…..and he was not a mid-round pick, he was a first round pick.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
68.LA to TheBay Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
63.Dakota Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Any other team’s fans fight so much about mid-round picks who have rotted on the bench for nearly two seasons?
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Lions, Jags, Rams, Bills, Bengals fans?
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Welcome to the party!
December 28th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
Very lukewarm endorsement, there, Dennis.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Dakota Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
65.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Dakota Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Any other team’s fans fight so much about mid-round picks who have rotted on the bench for nearly two seasons?
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Aaron Rodgers sat the bench for 3 years..
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Lol, yeah, behind a HOF QB…..and he was not a mid-round pick, he was a first round pick.
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Yea but there’s a couple on here who would have you to belive Palmer is better than Favre..
December 28th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
If thats all you read i guess.. but if you listen to every player and coach ever.. you know that the third string quarterback does not practice in pro football. not very much anyways and at best he might be running a scout team which means someone else’s offense. and according to TP and Dennis Allen he didn’t get a chance to run a scout team practice until last week… so up until yesterday the most snaps TP has seen in our offence at practice is 3… that’s not developing a young player that’s retarded in his growth.. and now to give him 1 whole day getting the snaps at the starting quarterback and playing him with a bunch of backups… it just looks like sabotage.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Allen said Pryor and Matt Leinart had been told earlier in the week Pryor was the likely starter.
“I wanted to see how each player responded,’’ Allen said. “I thought Terrelle responded well.
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Translation: “Mark Davis told me I had to start Pryor or he’d fire me.”
December 28th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
61.RaiderDebo Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
LOL at tuning in….
I am not going to get on my high-horse like some of you and pretend I know more about football than others. I stick to facts, enjoy the debate, and never jump to conclusions to claim a blog victory beore things have played out.
But if you saw the man-cave, it is not humanly possible to consume more football than I do.
Not possible.
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Happy you have a “man-cave”. But this has nothing to do with a “high-horse”. I just don’t see how anyone who has been watching Bengals games can say that Andy Dalton is awesome and that he’s better than Cam Newton. But I can see someone who doesn’t watch any games, but who reads the sports page every Monday morning saying that.
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Dalton was a 2nd round pick?
He looks better than Gabbert, Ponder and Locker?
December 28th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Marks hair Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
If thats all you read i guess.. but if you listen to every player and coach ever.. you know that the third string quarterback does not practice in pro football. not very much anyways and at best he might be running a scout team which means someone else’s offense. and according to TP and Dennis Allen he didn’t get a chance to run a scout team practice until last week… so up until yesterday the most snaps TP has seen in our offence at practice is 3… that’s not developing a young player that’s retarded in his growth.. and now to give him 1 whole day getting the snaps at the starting quarterback and playing him with a bunch of backups… it just looks like sabotage.
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Rolando McClain runs the scout team buddy.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
72.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Dakota Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
65.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Dakota Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Any other team’s fans fight so much about mid-round picks who have rotted on the bench for nearly two seasons?
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Aaron Rodgers sat the bench for 3 years..
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Lol, yeah, behind a HOF QB…..and he was not a mid-round pick, he was a first round pick.
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Yea but there’s a couple on here who would have you to belive Palmer is better than Favre..
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He is better than Favre…..right now lol, oh wait, he is injured…..might have to go with Favre!
December 28th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Palmer=#18 passer of all time.
Fabre =#19 passer of all time.
Deal with facts.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
See, told you.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
74.LA to TheBay Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Allen said Pryor and Matt Leinart had been told earlier in the week Pryor was the likely starter.
“I wanted to see how each player responded,’’ Allen said. “I thought Terrelle responded well.
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Translation: “Mark Davis told me I had to start Pryor or he’d fire me.”
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If that’s true, then start Leinart!!!!
December 28th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
lmao
December 28th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Go TP show you deserve it and can be the future.But I have to LMAO at all the excuse makers starting already.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
61.RaiderDebo Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
LOL at tuning in….
I am not going to get on my high-horse like some of you and pretend I know more about football than others. I stick to facts, enjoy the debate, and never jump to conclusions to claim a blog victory beore things have played out.
But if you saw the man-cave, it is not humanly possible to consume more football than I do.
Not possible.
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Happy you have a “man-cave”. But this has nothing to do with a “high-horse”. I just don’t see how anyone who has been watching Bengals games can say that Andy Dalton is awesome and that he’s better than Cam Newton. But I can see someone who doesn’t watch any games, but who reads the sports page every Monday morning saying that.
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Dalton was a 2nd round pick?
He looks better than Gabbert, Ponder and Locker?
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I’ll give you that much.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
And Brett Favre is also “known” for his bad INTs..
Thats what hes known for. His legacy, is bad INTs..
*blank stare*
December 28th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
3rd stringers do go thru passing drills daily though and when u throw 1 out of 4 into the dirt ten feet away, coaches notice.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
Nice irrelevant come back… but my point is that I would like to see this coaching staff act like professionals.. like their peers just once. just for 5 seconds without the owner or the fans having to throw a fit to make it happen..
December 28th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
LOL @ 80.
Judge on a roll today.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
85.dr_robert Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
3rd stringers do go thru passing drills daily though and when u throw 1 out of 4 into the dirt ten feet away, coaches notice.
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1 out of 4? That’s not bad…..maybe he could mentor Jamarcus?
December 28th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
Tebow threw great ground ball’s in practice too, he also led his team into the 2nd round of the playoffs..
December 28th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
The last time a Raider drafted QB started a game was in 2007. JaBustUs against the Chargers at home. The first pass I remember he threw was an INT straight to a Charger DL. Hopefully Pryor is better than JaBustUs
December 28th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
So many TP fans already coming with reasons why others are at fault for his poor play. The game isn’t till Sunday dummies.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
The only built in excuse for TP is that he is a 3rd round project red shirt rookie with tremendous *potential* appearing in his first start.
I would expect him to play exactly like that.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
I think those orders to start Pryor came from the front office. No way Knapp was in favor of this move. Soooooo where are all of the posts about front office not letting the coaches coach? Que the crickets……
December 28th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
Watch the replay of Pryor’s 21 yard run last week, the sideline… the guy going nuts celebrating, Dennis Allen.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
Actually, waiting until the last game of the year, against another team that has already quit on its season and has no film on the guy, and then not announcing the move until a couple of days before the game actually gives Pryor a chance to have a decent game.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
DT42 Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
I think those orders to start Pryor came from the front office.
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I think you don’t know what you are talking about.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Yeah, I would’nt be surprised if Allen got an ultimatum.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
Visor–great point about tebow. He’s a “winner” so u must think he’s better than Palmer.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
See, told you.
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LOL
December 28th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
I doubt Mark Davis gives a ratz azz about playing his father’s final draft mistake.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
Funny that tebow may not find a team next year.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
BOKNOWS Says:
For my money,…use a 7th rd pick on Mike Hermann from little RPI college and develop him…6-5 250 4.6 cannon arm
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Of course I had to google Hermann. Interesting story, don’t know about his arm from this article, though.
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/rpis-hermann-being-eyed-nfl-simply-amazing
December 28th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Dakota Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
I doubt Mark Davis gives a ratz azz about playing his father’s final draft mistake.
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Me too, but I think he wants to see Terrelle Pryor play though.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
dr_robert Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
Visor–great point about tebow. He’s a “winner” so u must think he’s better than Palmer.
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Well if winning is the earmark, then Favre >
December 28th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Wonder what the line moved around with the new announcement?
Actually, probably was off the boards until it was announced. If not, tells you Vegas doesn’t care either way who starts.
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JFB My voice of reason.
Any safe place to play a 4 pick parlay card on line?
December 28th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
Why annouce it now????
why not let them continue to scheme for both????
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Game plan is already in place. No way the Discharge can change everything up while going through their walk thru.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Good move by (.Y.)’s by naming Pryor over Noodle Arm to start. Let’s see what the kid can do…
Yay (.Y.)’s
December 28th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
We just need one team to fall in love with Geno Smith, and then we can draft Star or Joeckel, whichever one is still on the board.
Just Win Baby (except this weekend)
December 28th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Lechler is one of the worst punters in history
December 28th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Lechlers wins and losses are horrible
December 28th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
Janikowsli is horrendous. Not enuff wins. Too many losses.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
Cam newton is horrible. Wins and losses.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
Happy you have a “man-cave”. But this has nothing to do with a “high-horse”. I just don’t see how anyone who has been watching Bengals games can say that Andy Dalton is awesome and that he’s better than Cam Newton. But I can see someone who doesn’t watch any games, but who reads the sports page every Monday morning saying that.
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Well its obvious you neither have a man-cave or a high horse.
If you did the correlation would be simple.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
Dr_robert Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Lechlers wins and losses are horrible
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Somebody please respond to this moron. He’s desperately looking for attention.
If he doesnt get it, he’s going to blow, and start cross-posting………….
December 28th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
Gottca back JFB..
MY voice of reason against all the treason!!!
December 28th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Any safe place to play a 4 pick parlay card on line?
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Plenty of places to place the bet, don’t know about getting the money out.
Fulltilt jobbed me out of some money, and sports interaction was once solid, but they got funky as well.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
LOL..
December 28th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
Kell–quit obsessing over me cross poster
December 28th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
Kinda funny, but I wonder who Al would actually start. Dude was pretty stubborn, right? Remember he said wanted to draft Leinart over Michael Huff, but Shell convinced to draft Huff?
Don’t get me wrong, I am very happy Pryor is starting over Leinart. Just always remember that Al Davis sound bite…
December 28th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
Kell–who have I cross posted as? Answer coward. Thought so b1tch.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
LOL
December 28th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
119.DutchRaider77 Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
Kinda funny, but I wonder who Al would actually start. Dude was pretty stubborn, right? Remember he said wanted to draft Leinart over Michael Huff, but Shell convinced to draft Huff?
Don’t get me wrong, I am very happy Pryor is starting over Leinart. Just always remember that Al Davis sound bite…
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Just need to watch one of Matt Leinart’s 20 yard Hail Mary’s to know who Al Davis wouldve started.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
Kell calling the smartest guy in the room a moron. Big dummy.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
96.lefty12 Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
DT42 Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
I think those orders to start Pryor came from the front office.
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I think you don’t know what you are talking about.
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“Matt’s our backup quarterback,” Allen said. “Terrelle’s done a nice job. He’s working extremely hard. We don’t feel like he’s ready to be the backup quarterback yet.”
- Dennis “I know what I’m talking about” Allen
If he wasn’t ready to be a back up last week then WTF changed Lefty??
December 28th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
MY voice of reason against all the treason!!!
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I love the “you should watch the games sometimes” theory.
Yeah because I am on here during the games, live “semi-proing”, just watching the box scores, and when I see “Andy Dalton” 47 yard pass I go “Wow did you see that throw from Dalton….because I didn’t….just reading the box scores…..”
LOL….some people.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
Stop lying. Matt Leinart has never thrown a 20 yard pass.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
And Brett Favre is also “known” for his bad INTs..
Thats what hes known for. His legacy, is bad INTs..
*blank stare*
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I thought you said he never had any?
This is progress…
December 28th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
Al let Charlie Frye play ahead of Jamarcus Russell to end the 2009 season…so who knows.
Al never seemed to care much for the “mobile” QB. Always liked the tall, strong armed statues.
The two most athletic QB’s of my Raider lifetime were Billy Joe Hobert who got ran out of town, and Rich Gannon, who they were still trying to remove from their history for whatever reason.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
Some of you might get your wish…..
http://www.rotoworld.com/teams/nfl/oak/?r=1
December 28th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
Gdog Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
And Brett Favre is also “known” for his bad INTs..
Thats what hes known for. His legacy, is bad INTs..
*blank stare*
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I thought you said he never had any?
This is progress…
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Now you’re twisting my words..
Nice touch.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
This blog is awesome.
Some say Palmer is a bust, some say he is better than Favre.
Awesome.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
250 yards total. One TD. Three INTs sound about right?
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This sounds like a Carson Palmer stat line …
December 28th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
Every time I see DAV put the *blank stares* it reminds me of the Xtranormal youtube cartoons on the bailouts and quantitative easing videos.
Must see’s BTW
December 28th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
Raider Dude Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
250 yards total. One TD. Three INTs sound about right?
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This sounds like a Carson Palmer stat line …
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Only if the yards & TD came in garbage time. And 1 of the picks was a pick 6 or cost us the game.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
Pretty sure al sharpton got this thing done. Stupid white supremacists can’t hold back the wave of the future.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
If Pryor sucks can we use the same excuses you guys use for Palmer ? (bad oline , no run game , crappy receivers , Greg KNAPP ) Its only fair right ?
December 28th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Allen said he informed both Pryor and Leinart earlier this week that he was leaning toward Pryor, and that Leinart “didn’t like” Allen’s decision. But Allen liked Pryor’s response.
“I wanted to see how each player responded,’’ Allen said. “I thought Terrelle responded well. I think he gives us a unique element of athleticism at the quarterback position and I think he deserves to get an opportunity to get out there and see what he can do. I’m anxious to see him play. I want to see him get out there and relax, play the game of football the way it’s supposed to be played. I want to see him take command of the huddle. I want to see us get in and out of the huddle and the operation be smooth. I want to see him protect the football, make sure he makes good decisions.”
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/28/terrelle-pryor-to-start-for-raiders-on-sunday/
December 28th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Be hard to say a guy sucks after the one and only start of his career.
But I wont put it past some of ‘you people’..
December 28th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Finally.
My fear now is if Pryor plays well (which I am expect to be the case), then KRAPP also stays?
Man I hope KNOT….
December 28th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
DT42 Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
“Matt’s our backup quarterback,” Allen said. “Terrelle’s done a nice job. He’s working extremely hard. We don’t feel like he’s ready to be the backup quarterback yet.”
- Dennis “I know what I’m talking about” Allen
If he wasn’t ready to be a back up last week then WTF changed Lefty??
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Nothing has changed as far as the way the org and staff treats the players. If guys come to work, work hard, they will get rewarded. We have seen that all year. Pryor has done exactly that. There is really no down side at this point to putting him out there. Provided he doesn’t get himself or some else killed out there.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
129.poprox13 Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
Some of you might get your wish…..
http://www.rotoworld.com/teams/nfl/oak/?r=1
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One source told Yahoo Sports’ Jason Cole that Raiders owner Mark Davis and GM Reggie McKenzie spoke to “confidants” this week about what to do with first-year head coach Dennis Allen.
Allen has done “little or nothing to inspire confidence” as a rookie coach, as his offensive coordinator hiring of Greg Knapp has proved an ill fit for Oakland’s personnel, and Allen’s defensive side of the ball has been the Raiders’ biggest problem area. Cole seems to hint that Allen could be one-and-done in Oakland, although McKenzie and Davis are still weighing their options.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Palmer = #18 passer of all time
Favre = #19 passer of all time.
Documented fact.
There is no “bust” Wikipedia page and no “bust” nfl stat. I talk facts. Others talk bullsh1t.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
LOL
December 28th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
Dr_robert Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Palmer = #18 passer of all time
Favre = #19 passer of all time.
Documented fact.
There is no “bust” Wikipedia page and no “bust” nfl stat. I talk facts. Others talk bullsh1t.
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Yeah Yeah, you’re a genius who’s always right, ok?
December 28th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
Raider Dude Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
If Pryor sucks can we use the same excuses you guys use for Palmer ? (bad oline , no run game , crappy receivers , Greg KNAPP ) Its only fair right ?
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Well one guy is a Heisman winner, 2 time pro bowler, led the league in completion percentage and TD’s. The other guy is a 3rd rounder who is stuck at 3rd string. So, if Pryor sucks, maybe Pryor just sucks…
December 28th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
One source told Yahoo Sports’ Jason Cole that Raiders owner Mark Davis and GM Reggie McKenzie spoke to “confidants” this week about what to do with first-year head coach Dennis Allen.
Allen has done “little or nothing to inspire confidence” as a rookie coach, as his offensive coordinator hiring of Greg Knapp has proved an ill fit for Oakland’s personnel, and Allen’s defensive side of the ball has been the Raiders’ biggest problem area. Cole seems to hint that Allen could be one-and-done in Oakland, although McKenzie and Davis are still weighing their options. Source: Yahoo Sports Dec 28 – 4:24 PM
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WOOOOOT!
December 28th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
U can use those things as an excuse for losing but not for a poor stat line. Palmer put up good numbers this year. Why? Cuz he’s a good qb and that’s what good qb’s do. Why is this so hard?
December 28th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
[...] decided to go with Terrelle Pryor as our quarterback,” Allen said after practice today. “He’ll play in the game and we’ll see how the game goes. He’s the starter, and we’re going to go into it as we would any other [...]
December 28th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
Oooohh a TWO time pro bowler.. WAY better than Favre..
December 28th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
Warning: As much as I want this team to win, if we pull off a victory with TP at the helm, forget QB controversy, this may actually SAVE KNAPPS JOB!
If only DA could actually COACH as well as he makes these calculated moves…
December 28th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
Vic Tafur @VicTafur 25m
It is very likely that Dennis Allen got a good nudge from owner Mark Davis and general manager Reggie McKenzie to go with Terrelle Pryor.
Vic Tafur @VicTafur 24m
McKenzie said last month he wanted Pryor to play so he could evaluate him, and Davis was visibly upset after last week’s loss in Carolina.
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I hope Mark is pissed at the over all incompetence of Knapp’s play calling….#FireKnappASAP!
December 28th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
Well thank u Kell.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
“I want to see him take command of the huddle. I want to see us get in and out of the huddle and the operation be smooth.”
Awesome…..after two years in the NFL Pryor still has his coaches worried about his ability to huddle up the offense?
LMAO
December 28th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
The best thing for Pryor is to have the staff return next season.
New staffs typically want to develop “their” guys.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
Pop quiz. #18 and #19. Which one is “better”? C’mon. 18. 19. U can do it. 18. 19. 18. 19.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
This blog is awesome.
Some say Palmer is a bust, some say he is better than Favre.
Awesome.
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Know what else?……I still see some JaWalrus LOVE in here from time to time
Awesome.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
freezetag168 Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
Warning: As much as I want this team to win, if we pull off a victory with TP at the helm, forget QB controversy, this may actually SAVE KNAPPS JOB!
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Ok, you guys are making this much to difficult to root for Pryor.
I kind of hope he does well so we dont have to use three roster spots for QB next year… thats about it.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
Dr_robert Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
Well thank u Kell.
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You’re welcome. I hope that helps you.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
Most Passing TDs ever, Most Passing yards ever, Most wins ever.
Yea Palmer is way better than that.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
Yes, DA sounds terrified of putting Pryor in.
This was management’s call. DA seems like the type to start veteran scrub Matt Lienart and have Gregg call a snoozefest conservative game and lose by six.
It’s the last game of a lost season. He better play everyone he’s got.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
Gdog Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
I’m wondering how mediocre he has to play before the “Pryor = savior” people declare him the starter next year over CP?
250 yards total. One TD. Three INTs sound about right?
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Who has said he’s the savior? All I’ve seen is some people saying he has no chance of ever being an NFL QB, and some people being reasonable and asking to see him play in a game before making a decision. Quit it with the straw men and root for the kid to succeed. Otherwise go root for KC.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
Seymour, the question was what changed in 5 days. That quote from Allen was last Sunday. He said that Matt’s our backup quarterback. So now the argument is that he wasn’t working hard and that’s why he lost the starting job this week? Yesterday Pryor was quoted as saying that Matt was getting the majority of snaps. But now he’s starting??
I’m calling BS. My point is that even in a “modern organization” the front office can still call the shots. And this is obvious that this was not DA’s call. Reggie wants to see what TP can do. Personally, I like the move. They should have been doing this weeks ago. But the DA apologists are going to put a spin to this and i’m not buying it.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
Dakota–well for a while needed to “get used to dressing”. Then he needed to run a play or two. Now he needs to show he can command a huddle. One thing at a time okay? At least they’re setting him up for success. They didn’t say he needed to complete any passes or throw any touchdowns. Just command a huddle. He can do it! I know he can! Go Pryor! command that huddle!
December 28th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Irt’s about time. DA knew that if he didn’t get the future out there, it was his job, and he knew it. Some of you suckers are going to be eating crow.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Reggie admitting that he made a major mistake in his first coaching staff hiring would restore my faith in him. Hopefully Reggie isn’t the type to make the same mistake twice.
If he ties his future to that of Dennis Allen, then all hope is lost for Reggie.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
Did Matt Cassell ever start a game at USC?
And he went to the Pro Bowl and has been a, what, four year starter?
Anybody have Tom Brady penciled in as a sure-fire HOF’er when he went in the 6th round out of Michigan?
There are other examples, and even those on the flip side (IE “JaMArcus Russell is the next Elway”).
This is why they play the games, gentlemen.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
Did Matt Cassell ever start a game at USC?
And he went to the Pro Bowl and has been a, what, four year starter?
Anybody have Tom Brady penciled in as a sure-fire HOF’er when he went in the 6th round out of Michigan?
There are other examples, and even those on the flip side (IE “JaMArcus Russell is the next Elway”).
This is why they play the games, gentlemen.
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No, they play the game to get more yards than the other team.. right… right…
December 28th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Visor–18. 19. Which is “better”. This is a tuff one I know. But we can do this together. Just like Pryor is gonna command the heck outta that huddle Sunday. Focus now. 18. That’s a number. 19. That’s a number. Which one is…..”better” as a ranking. Think now. Don’t rush. 18. 19.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Dakota Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Reggie admitting that he made a major mistake in his first coaching staff hiring would restore my faith in him. Hopefully Reggie isn’t the type to make the same mistake twice.
If he ties his future to that of Dennis Allen, then all hope is lost for Reggie.
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Can you provide a link, or is another one of you “practical jokes”?
December 28th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
129.poprox13 Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
Some of you might get your wish…..
http://www.rotoworld.com/teams/nfl/oak/?r=1
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One source told Yahoo Sports’ Jason Cole that Raiders owner Mark Davis and GM Reggie McKenzie spoke to “confidants” this week about what to do with first-year head coach Dennis Allen.
Allen has done “little or nothing to inspire confidence” as a rookie coach, as his offensive coordinator hiring of Greg Knapp has proved an ill fit for Oakland’s personnel, and Allen’s defensive side of the ball has been the Raiders’ biggest problem area. Cole seems to hint that Allen could be one-and-done in Oakland, although McKenzie and Davis are still weighing their options.
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Best news of this horrible 2012 season, so far.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
162.DT42 Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
Seymour, the question was what changed in 5 days. That quote from Allen was last Sunday. He said that Matt’s our backup quarterback. So now the argument is that he wasn’t working hard and that’s why he lost the starting job this week? Yesterday Pryor was quoted as saying that Matt was getting the majority of snaps. But now he’s starting??
I’m calling BS. My point is that even in a “modern organization” the front office can still call the shots. And this is obvious that this was not DA’s call. Reggie wants to see what TP can do. Personally, I like the move. They should have been doing this weeks ago. But the DA apologists are going to put a spin to this and i’m not buying it.
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You don’t think it was them actually breaking down game film and seeing Leinart actually play in a game-like scenario and look really bad?
I bet Matt Leinart probably looks pretty good in practice this year with the little red jersey and no contact…
December 28th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
You think it’s easy to command a huddle? it’s not. Shows ur ignorance. Timing involved. Setting your feet right. Relaying signals. As the game goes on you will see TP step up and getter done.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
dr_robert Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Visor–18. 19. Which is “better”. This is a tuff one I know. But we can do this together. Just like Pryor is gonna command the heck outta that huddle Sunday. Focus now. 18. That’s a number. 19. That’s a number. Which one is…..”better” as a ranking. Think now. Don’t rush. 18. 19.
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*sigh*
December 28th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
KK
129.poprox13 Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
Some of you might get your wish…..
http://www.rotoworld.com/teams/nfl/oak/?r=1
December 28th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
Of course the owner told the GM who told the HC Pryor is starting.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
rediaR Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
Gdog Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
I’m wondering how mediocre he has to play before the “Pryor = savior” people declare him the starter next year over CP?
250 yards total. One TD. Three INTs sound about right?
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Who has said he’s the savior? All I’ve seen is some people saying he has no chance of ever being an NFL QB, and some people being reasonable and asking to see him play in a game before making a decision. Quit it with the straw men and root for the kid to succeed. Otherwise go root for KC.
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Oh please. The inference all along has been Pryor is better than CP and the wrong guy has been starting all along.
Why don’t you at least be honest and admit it?
Pryor is better than a 4000 yard a year passer.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
They’re gonna call a real conservative game I bet.
What the coaches should do is let Pryor let it rip.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
Joe Flacco, who is tied with Palmer for 18th on the all important all time QB rating list… He is better than Brett Favre too.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
175.J Hill Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
Of course the owner told the GM who told the HC Pryor is starting.
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Al lives.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
how much more conservative can they get?
December 28th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
Shaun Hill is better than Jim Kelly.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
JFB,
You really think Davis Jr would let a HC get hired who didn’t have a plan for Pryor?
December 28th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
LA To TheBay Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
Yes, DA sounds terrified of putting Pryor in.
This was management’s call. DA seems like the type to start veteran scrub Matt Lienart and have Gregg call a snoozefest conservative game and lose by six.
It’s the last game of a lost season. He better play everyone he’s got.
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Exactly. We do not need to see Matt Leinart go 20/25 for 120 yards. And the fact that Dennis Allen was even considering it at this stage of the season doesnt really speak highly of his ability to assess a situation.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
Jeff Garcia is better than Dan Marino.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
180.Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
how much more conservative can they get?
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Well, they trust CP to pass the ball 54 times in a game. I really doubt they have the same trust in Pryor.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
Priest–if he’s good I’ll admit it. I’ll love it. But if he’s bad, will u “eat crow” or make excuses? Bet I know the answer. And I bet ub ignore this churn he like the coward u are.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
I can see TP going 24-33, 275 yds, 3 td’s. But that isn’t going to be what impresses you the most. He will also run 8 times for 125 yds. Then you will know what Ive been saying all along. Pryor is a one of a kind qb. No one before like him, and no one since. When I am right, you can come back and praise the wisdom of blackholepriest.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
David Garrard is better than Len Dawson.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
LA,
How many examples do we have of the son hating the father who grows up to be that same guy he hated, lol?
December 28th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
I bet Matt Leinart wishes it was him that didn’t know Knapps playbook
December 28th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
Bout time!
December 28th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
Jason Campbell is better than Troy Aikman.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
yahoo sports said da is still a bet to go….reggie and mark talking to people on what to fo with him…
December 28th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Breaking News:
The Oakland Raiders have just announced that John Herrera has re-joined the organization, and will now be handling all media contact, and will also supervise all of Mark Davis’ haircuts.
Changes are coming!
December 28th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
“BHP,”
I’m thinking more like 17/30, 185, INT.
But with a game winning 36 yard scamper to go along with another 5 rushes for 42.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
DT42 Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
Seymour, the question was what changed in 5 days. That quote from Allen was last Sunday. He said that Matt’s our backup quarterback. So now the argument is that he wasn’t working hard and that’s why he lost the starting job this week? Yesterday Pryor was quoted as saying that Matt was getting the majority of snaps. But now he’s starting??
I’m calling BS. My point is that even in a “modern organization” the front office can still call the shots. And this is obvious that this was not DA’s call. Reggie wants to see what TP can do. Personally, I like the move. They should have been doing this weeks ago. But the DA apologists are going to put a spin to this and i’m not buying it.
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McKenzie for the most part is not on the practice field watching practice. So Allen is going to have the best info as to who should be starting or playing in general. And it doesn’t bode overly well for Pryor that even at the very end when Leinert went out there and looked worse and worse, Pryor would not even get a sniff.
The word might have come down from McKenzie not for the fact that McKenzie thinks Pryor is some uber wonderkind who is going to walk onto the field and dazzle everyone. McKenzie probably wants to know what to do with the roster spot since our team is just not good enough to have roster spots occupied by hacks. Right now, If McKenzie can get a fifth rounder for Pryor, I am sure he would take it. Or see if Pryor is not better suited for a WR role. After watching him play against Carolina, his best play was a catch and run. That might tell us something right there.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
192.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
Jason Campbell is better than Troy Aikman.
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This is getting funnier by the post.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Looks like I have a reason to watch this game after all.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
151. exactly Dennis Allen works for the donkeys… only mark stepping in can save us now
December 28th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
I can see TP going 24-33, 275 yds, 3 td’s. But that isn’t going to be what impresses you the most. He will also run 8 times for 125 yds. Then you will know what Ive been saying all along. Pryor is a one of a kind qb. No one before like him, and no one since. When I am right, you can come back and praise the wisdom of blackholepriest.
>>>>
If he does this I will be the first to admit I was wrong and more than a lot surprised. It could mean the long term prospects of the Raiders is secure!
If he heaves up endless interceptions and does little else besides taking off running every chance he gets, what will YOU say???
Besides excuses….
December 28th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Did priest just explain how hard it is to command a huddle and then talk about tuning and footwork? And say as the game goes on, Pryor will get it fine? Did that just happen? Am I in idiot heaven?
December 28th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
54 times at 3 yards a pass isnt much confidence…lol
December 28th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
And you won’t get no excuses from me if TP doesn’t play well. No blamijng the coaches. No blaming Knapp. Not going to say waited too long. cuz TP’s time is now, and he’s going to shut you fools up. Excuses are for losers. And you won’t see me make a single one. Either TP is everything I said, or I will admit I blew it. No inbetween. Will most of you do the same? Will you step up and say you were right, priest, or will you make excuses? We’ll see.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
Daunte Culpepper is better than Sonny Jurgenson.
All brought to you by #DrRobertLogic
December 28th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
189.J Hill Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
LA,
How many examples do we have of the son hating the father who grows up to be that same guy he hated, lol?
——–
What’s scary is that Junior doesn’t know football NEARLY as well as his pops…. and his pops had 7 straight seasons of 11+ losses!
I think Mark knows what puts @$$es in seats though. As owner, that should be one of your primary duties.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
yahoo sports said da is still a bet to go….reggie and mark talking to people on what to fo with him…
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And George Bush was just announced as dead, and Jon Gruden was announced as getting ready to come back here in some capacity. Both of which were wrong. Modern internet news now has come down to who says it first, not who says it right.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
you can’t evaluate guys that don’t play. Reggie and mark forced this action..obviously
Fire the staff
December 28th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
“BHP,”
I’m thinking more like 17/30, 185, INT.
But with a game winning 36 yard scamper to go along with another 5 rushes for 42.
>>>>
You guys really think Pryor is going to be trusted to pass 30 times?
More like 18 tops if he plays all game.
I see more of a college/Tebow-like game coming… nothing but running and options.
Or Knapp really IS insane!
December 28th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/28/michael-oher-fined-10k-for-chop-block/
zbs is going very soon!
December 28th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Hilarious.
When you Google Dennis Allen fired, the 3 suggestions that come up are:
Dennis Allen should be fired
Dennis Allen will get fired
Dennis Allen will be fired.
Google has spoken.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Did priest just say he could see Pryor going 24-33 275 yards 3tds and run 8 times for 125? This can’t be. Nobody is that dumb and could still know how to use a computer.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Dakota Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
KK
129.poprox13 Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
Some of you might get your wish…..
http://www.rotoworld.com/teams/nfl/oak/?r=1
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Okaaaaaay, Great News, Thanks!!!!!!!!!!
December 28th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
202.Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
54 times at 3 yards a pass isnt much confidence…lol
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400 yards? Does not compute.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
What a Retard…
December 28th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
And you won’t get no excuses from me if TP doesn’t play well.
>>>>
Fair enough! I will be watching…
December 28th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
george bush isnt dead? wow…who knew?
December 28th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
DA was told by Mr. Davis to play TP or clean out his office. This was verified by 3 different personnel that I know personally. DA was also told by Reg that regardless of how TP starts the game, he will play at least 3 qtrs. At least. That you can take to the bank.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
So can someone put together a realistic potential coaching list?..
December 28th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
clearly you’re the king of idiot heaven
December 28th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
And you won’t get no excuses from me if TP doesn’t play well. No blamijng the coaches. No blaming Knapp. Not going to say waited too long. cuz TP’s time is now, and he’s going to shut you fools up. Excuses are for losers.
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There are facts and there are excuses. Tell the guys at the Alamo that they all died because they sucked. But you are right about Pryor’s time being now. You don’t get that many turns to prove you really belong in this league. Here is Pryors turn. He best make the most of it.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
You guys really think Pryor is going to be trusted to pass 30 times?
More like 18 tops if he plays all game.
I see more of a college/Tebow-like game coming… nothing but running and options.
Or Knapp really IS insane!
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Depends on game situation.
If we get more of the same from our run game, I’d say yeah — 30 sounds right.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
Pop quiz. #18 and #19. Which one is “better”? C’mon. 18. 19.
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Well it depends…..can I split the 9’s from the #18, and do I get only one card on the split?
December 28th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
Visor–facts kid. Facts. Not media hype or “opinion”. Or “legend”. Facts. Let me ask u this: did anyone use Dan Marino on their fantasy team the last 5 years of his career?
December 28th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
How can you grow up around football and know nothing about it?
He sure knew football regression when he saw it.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
george bush isnt dead? wow…who knew?
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Good one. Or who cared?
December 28th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
Ill say it again for anyone who wants to know. If TP doesn’t take command, and lead this team, which I know he will cuz he’s been applying himself all season, then I will announce that I was completely wrong.
I’m not worried, because I’ve watched this kid since he was 16, and I know what he’s capable of. about time some of you rspected what I know, and what I bring.
Sunday is a day of reckonin.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
J Hill Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
How can you grow up around football and know nothing about it?
He sure knew football regression when he saw it.
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At his presser, Mark said he knew nothing about the football side of things.. when did that change exactly?
December 28th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
224.J Hill Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
How can you grow up around football and know nothing about it?
He sure knew football regression when he saw it.
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Some kids are lost souls and/or want nothing to do with their parents or what they did.
But Mark knows as much about football as the average fan and the average fan can see when something needs to change.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
Dr_robert Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
Visor–facts kid. Facts. Not media hype or “opinion”. Or “legend”. Facts. Let me ask u this: did anyone use Dan Marino on their fantasy team the last 5 years of his career?
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Wtf??????????? Smh.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
JFB,
You really think Davis Jr would let a HC get hired who didn’t have a plan for Pryor?
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I think any NFL HC could have Mark Davis glossed over in about 150 seconds.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
218.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
So can someone put together a realistic potential coaching list?..
++++++++++++++++
Anyone but:
Dennis Allen
Cable
Norv
Gilbride
December 28th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
Did priest just claim to know three people who knew mark davis demanded DA play Pryor or else? He did? Really? This is so much fun.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
dr_robert Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
Visor–facts kid. Facts. Not media hype or “opinion”. Or “legend”. Facts. Let me ask u this: did anyone use Dan Marino on their fantasy team the last 5 years of his career?
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WOW.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
How can you grow up around football and know nothing about it?
******************************
Well, I grew up all around music and blues music, love the hell out of it, but outside of a sweet Silent Night rendition on the harmonica, I can’t do anything else.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
Dakota Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
218.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
So can someone put together a realistic potential coaching list?..
++++++++++++++++
Anyone but:
Dennis Allen
Cable
Norv
Gilbride
________________
Art Shell III
::ducks::
December 28th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
Priest has been watching Pryor since he was 16. Is this only coming they on my computer? Is someone playing a truck in me?
December 28th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
Dakota Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
218.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
So can someone put together a realistic potential coaching list?..
++++++++++++++++
Anyone but:
Dennis Allen
Cable
Norv
Gilbride
—-
No one seems to be able to come up with realistic replacements..
Chip Kelly sounds good and all…but..
December 28th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
Trolls…
setting up if pryor does bad (’i told u so’)
AND…
if he does well! (’fluke!’)
so its IMPOSSIBLE that he could play well and BE good…NO chance of that…
cant win with some idiots on this board
==
‘I hope Pryor looks awesome….so we can fool another team into trading for him….and they can then see how defenses play him once they have tape on him.
If we can get a Kolb-like trade done that would be great!
Arizona is always a good mark for robbing picks from….they might be interested.’
December 28th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
Dennis Allen makes Art Shell look like a brilliant, energetic coach. And the man tits are about equal, so it’s a push there.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
Some people have a hard time with FACTS.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
Footwork is everything is football. Nothing happens without good footwork, and that is what Pryor has been working on. That’s why players do well on dancing with the stars, cuz of their footwork that they learned in the NFL. Pryor has that skillset down, and he will get better as the game goes on…period
December 28th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
The biggest indicator of whether Pryor, on any other young QB, is ready for the big-time isn’t rushing yards, or BS passing yards in garbage time.
Do you throw into single coverage, do you manage the play-clock so you don’t waste all your timeouts or snap the ball with 1 every play, and how do you handle the 2 minute warning.
The Matt Ryan, Eli Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Andy Dalton, Joe Flacco types, were experts immediately at this.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Dan Marino isnt great because the last 5 years of his career he sucked as a Fantasy Football QB..
Oh…..My……Goohhhnesss….
December 28th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Mark Davis knows 3 things:
Cocaine, Led Zepplin and Cocaine
December 28th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
When you score matters.
Go compare the top scoring 1st quarter teams with the top scoring 4th quarter teams.
1st quarter is full of the Bills and Panthers, 4th quarter is always Patriots, Falcons, Giants, etc.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
And pryor’s “footwork” will help him “command the huddle” right priest? Is it cuz ur will be able to get into and out of the huddle so skillfully?
December 28th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
“Last year at this time we were 7-4 and (ahead) in the division. Then we lost four out of our last five. And that’s why I didn’t fight for (former head coach) Hue Jackson to keep his job,” Davis said. “Well, we have five games to go. Who on this team wants me to fight for them to keep their job? Who among the players and coaches really wants to be here? Who wants me to fight to keep them here?”
Mark Davis, DEC 2, 2012.
It’s been 26 days.
Anyone still think Mark Davis thinks this is “good enough”?
Dennis Allen, future Angelo State Head Coach.
Greg Knapp, future Sacramento State Quarterbacks Coach.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
Mark doesn’t seem like a Zepplin guy.
Probably more of a Bad Company type dude.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
187.Priesttj12 Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
I can see TP going 24-33, 275 yds, 3 td’s. But that isn’t going to be what impresses you the most. He will also run 8 times for 125 yds. Then you will know what Ive been saying all along. Pryor is a one of a kind qb. No one before like him, and no one since. When I am right, you can come back and praise the wisdom of blackholepriest.
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I hope you’re right. That would be awesome.
I always buy into any hope they throw our way..so I will go into this one with optimisim.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
You fools think if you are moving your brain is moving fast too. Landry never moved. Parcells was always reserved during games. Same with Walsh. Thos who run around a lot of usually out of control. Art Shell is a very smart man.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Judge–u forgot about cocaine. And cigs. And righteous haircuts that are medieval-cool. And z-28’s.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
All Joking aside, I want to see Pryor hang in the pocket and make down field throws. As exciting as he can be running, i’d rather him hang in there and prove whether or not he can throw from the pocket.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
This blog is like a bad car wreck. You just cant stop looking at it. LMAO.
GO RAIDERS
Really want to bet a paplay card this weekend. Any suggestions would be good.
One of your bookies would work too.
Give you my e-mail if any inquries
December 28th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
Parcells was reserved?
Didn’t he always yell at Phil Simms and the officials?
December 28th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
Actually the most important thing for a qb to do is to complete lots of passes for lots if yards and get the team in position to score. See how easy that was?
December 28th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
244.The_Judge37 Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Mark Davis knows 3 things:
Cocaine, Led Zepplin and Cocaine
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Never understood where this Mark and cocaine thing came from.
Is it just cuz he’s the son of a millionaire football team owner or his hairdo?
December 28th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
The biggest indicator of whether Pryor, on any other young QB, is ready for the big-time isn’t rushing yards, or BS passing yards in garbage time.
Do you throw into single coverage, do you manage the play-clock so you don’t waste all your timeouts or snap the ball with 1 every play, and how do you handle the 2 minute warning.
The Matt Ryan, Eli Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Andy Dalton, Joe Flacco types, were experts immediately at this.
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Sure, Eli’s passer rating in 04′ was 55.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MannEl00.htm
December 28th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
255.dr_robert Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
Actually the most important thing for a qb to do is to complete lots of passes for lots if yards and get the team in position to score. See how easy that was?
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I would add going beyond getting into position to score and actually scoring.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
18. 19.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
Split the 9’s!!!!
December 28th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
Mark Davis thought he knew nothing about football until he watched Dennis Allen all year… I’m sure he feels like a genius compared to that jackàss..
December 28th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
EL OH EL
December 28th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
Well sometimes u run it in so a qb doesn’t get credit for that.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
DA was told by Mr. Davis to play TP or clean out his office. This was verified by 3 different personnel that I know personally. DA was also told by Reg that regardless of how TP starts the game, he will play at least 3 qtrs. At least. That you can take to the bank.
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I believe this. Frankly, I was pleasantly surprised to hear Pryor was starting based on DAs thumbing of his nose at the notion over the last few games, so this is very plausible. DA has his head up his ass.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Gdog Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
rediaR Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
Gdog Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
I’m wondering how mediocre he has to play before the “Pryor = savior” people declare him the starter next year over CP?
250 yards total. One TD. Three INTs sound about right?
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Who has said he’s the savior? All I’ve seen is some people saying he has no chance of ever being an NFL QB, and some people being reasonable and asking to see him play in a game before making a decision. Quit it with the straw men and root for the kid to succeed. Otherwise go root for KC.
>>>>>
Oh please. The inference all along has been Pryor is better than CP and the wrong guy has been starting all along.
Why don’t you at least be honest and admit it?
Pryor is better than a 4000 yard a year passer.
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Right now, Pryor is not as good as Palmer. That is not the point of this. The season has been lost for weeeeeeks. The general mindset, as I’ve seen it, is that if we are going to go 3-13 we may as well do it while seeing if the young athletic QB on the team has potential.
Do we hope he can be better than Palmer? Of course. We want to see him play well so we can have something to look forward to. Palmer is not the savior either. Don’t act like his 4000 yards haven’t been aided by junk time defenses. He isn’t removed from blame on this team nor should he take all of it.
I would feel much better about the future of this team if we already had a young QB ready to take over. Meanwhile there is a large group of people who have already decided he is terrible. I just want to see what he is in real NFL game action.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
I guarantee you that SD is very worried knoing that TP is starting. They were licking there chops facing Matt but now it’s a whole new dimension. TP can beat them through the air, and with his legs….period
December 28th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Problems with facts? Can’t spin them. 18. 19. Facts.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Matt Leinart should be starting. He’s never had a chance anywhere.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
256.DJ Johnny Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
244.The_Judge37 Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Mark Davis knows 3 things:
Cocaine, Led Zepplin and Cocaine
—
Never understood where this Mark and cocaine thing came from.
Is it just cuz he’s the son of a millionaire football team owner or his hairdo?
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I always just picture Mark Davis from the Movie “Tommy Boy”
Plus i always suspected it was the root of the Al vs Marcus Allen Feud. The real reason why neither side would say what really happened.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
Dakota Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
218.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
So can someone put together a realistic potential coaching list?..
++++++++++++++++
Anyone but:
Dennis Allen
Cable
Norv
Gilbride
—-
No one seems to be able to come up with realistic replacements..
Chip Kelly sounds good and all…but..
——————————————
Bo Pelini
Vic Fangio
Ken Norton (Ken is gonna get his shot within the next couple years. Excellent LB coach for USC and Seattle)
Chip Kelly would be awesome with our offensive skill position players.
If we want someone with experience, how about Holmgren. Has a connection to Reggie, and would be an instant upgrade over Dennis Allen, though thats not saying much.
Bruce Arians did a fine job for the Colts in place of Pagano. He should get some consideration.
Dennis Allen had his shot. And pooped his big boy pants. Get him outta here.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
So Mark is just like Al then, telling people to play his guy.
Hope it works out for Pryor better than the previous 25 years did.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
1 game won’t prove anything cubees have good games and bad games all season…. every season.. weather tp plays well or not in his first start is pretty irrelevant.. but our head coach finally thinking about next season is pretty relevant…
December 28th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Well mainly his legs. Not so much thru the air. I can see 9-22. 72 yards. That’s a bit more realistic. Don’t u think?
December 28th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Bo Pelini is a joke, barely even a College HC.
Fangio isnt HC material.
Norton reminds me of Singletary, but who knows.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
Mark Davis is a fellow Chico State alum.
If WE know anything up there, it is bad coke.
Over/under on lines sent to Nostraulia by Mark Davis:
1,349
December 28th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
Did someone just slam my Cubs?
December 28th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
A year from now, I guarantee you that RGIII, Cam and Kapernick will be talking about Pryor, how he’s the measuring stick. Everyone who has seen him play know he’s special, and TP will make believers out of all of you fools who doubted.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
The black supremacists don’t want to give Leinart a fair chance.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Do you throw into single coverage, do you manage the play-clock so you don’t waste all your timeouts or snap the ball with 1 every play, and how do you handle the 2 minute warning.
The Matt Ryan, Eli Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Andy Dalton, Joe Flacco types, were experts immediately at this.
——-
Excellent point
December 28th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
A year from now, I guarantee you that RGIII, Cam and Kapernick will be talking about Pryor, how he’s the measuring stick. Everyone who has seen him play know he’s special, and TP will make believers out of all of you fools who doubted.
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Exactly how many games til he too is better than Brett Favre though… thats real the question..
December 28th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
Dakota Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
Did someone just slam my Cubs?
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Well, the Cubs arents slamming anything themselves..
December 28th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Matt Leinart > Tom Brady
December 28th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
Relentless Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Matt Leinart > Tom Brady
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Wait, whats his QB rating?.. you might be right..
December 28th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
237.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
Dakota Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
218.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
So can someone put together a realistic potential coaching list?..
++++++++++++++++
Anyone but:
Dennis Allen
Cable
Norv
Gilbride
—-
No one seems to be able to come up with realistic replacements..
Chip Kelly sounds good and all…but..
++++++++++++
Perry Fewell
Dom Capers
Mike Zimmer
Bruce Arians
Kyle Shanahan
Vic Fangio
Hell….Jim Fassell would be an upgrade from Dennis Allen.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
256.DJ Johnny Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
244.The_Judge37 Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Mark Davis knows 3 things:
Cocaine, Led Zepplin and Cocaine
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Never understood where this Mark and cocaine thing came from.
Is it just cuz he’s the son of a millionaire football team owner or his hairdo?
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I always just picture Mark Davis from the Movie “Tommy Boy”
Plus i always suspected it was the root of the Al vs Marcus Allen Feud. The real reason why neither side would say what really happened.
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Mark Davis: “George (Blanda), I lost my virginity to your daughter for crying out loud. Ken (Stabler), you were there!”
December 28th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
275. LOL @ Nostraulia
December 28th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
Why am I nervous about Pryor having a good game?
Krapp getting the credit and another year.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
Mark Davis: “George (Blanda), I lost my virginity to your daughter for crying out loud. Ken (Stabler), you were there!”
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Laughing Out Loud!!! That one deserved a full spelling
December 28th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
J Hill Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
Why am I nervous about Pryor having a good game?
Krapp getting the credit and another year.
——————–
That may be Knapps only chance.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Now we have something to watch.
Also, this news update from the Mercury News:
OAKLAND COACH INJURED IN HUNTING ACCIDENT
Oakland Raiders offensive coordinator Greg Knapp was injured early Friday morning while boar hunting in Texas. According to Fish and Game spokesman Kent Aymeswell, Knapp’s firearm was confiscated as well. “He put the wrong caliber bullets in the rifle,” said Aymeswell. “But when we pointed that out to him, he said that he had only one gun and the bullets damn well better adjust.”
December 28th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
Goooooo…. Cubs…Goooooo, Goooo Cubs Gooooo
Hey Chicago, whatta you know, another season the Cubs will blow
Goooo Cubs Gooooo!!!!!
December 28th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
Pryor Interview:
http://www.raiders.com/media-vault/videos/Terrelle-Pryor-Media-Session/1c5677bc-bcab-4828-9e07-a163aef88885
December 28th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
291.Just Fire Baby Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
Goooooo…. Cubs…Goooooo, Goooo Cubs Gooooo
Hey Chicago, whatta you know, another season the Cubs will blow
Goooo Cubs Gooooo!!!!!
++++++++++++
What?
December 28th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
ZXK> Ugo824on2OU8Gwui>g!!! uuuuuu
December 28th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
Lol, Turf Toe. Good ole Greg “we teach what we know” Knapp.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
290. Excellent, well done
December 28th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
bUNCH OF cUBS haters!
mOTHER FKKRS DAMN caPLOCKS!
sHYYYT!
December 28th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
every week this coaching staff to something incredibly stupid.. it’s actually impressive in a sad strange way
December 28th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
283.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
Relentless Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Matt Leinart > Tom Brady
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Wait, whats his QB rating?.. you might be right..
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I know what you’re saying. Guys like Pennington and Culpepper rank high on the all time rating list but their careers were shorter as well.
You can’t ignore a 10 year veteran starters stats (rating etc.) as if it bears no relevance to how good a QB they are. You CAN i guess but it wouldn’t be fair.
Just cuz you have a predisposed hatred for the guy you should be even handed enough to admit that the stat bears some significance.
Favre ranks behind Palmer and others as far as rating even though he has been loaded at WR his whole career and blessed with a good line and decent running game.
He had a TEAM. Favre also threw for 336 int’s in 298 games…that doesn’t even count the numerouse fumbles he had in his career.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Turf toe Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Now we have something to watch.
Also, this news update from the Mercury News:
OAKLAND COACH INJURED IN HUNTING ACCIDENT
Oakland Raiders offensive coordinator Greg Knapp was injured early Friday morning while boar hunting in Texas. According to Fish and Game spokesman Kent Aymeswell, Knapp’s firearm was confiscated as well. “He put the wrong caliber bullets in the rifle,” said Aymeswell. “But when we pointed that out to him, he said that he had only one gun and the bullets damn well better adjust.”
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lol…
December 28th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
A week ago Pryor wasn’t ready to be the backup and this week he’s starting. Which is it DA? Man, do you look like a fool.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
290. bingo that’s our season
December 28th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
This is a big game for TP. Look what one game did for Matt Flynn?
One game could shake up the Raiders QB situation next year especially with Palmer owed $17 million.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
301.. he looks like a fool and a liar.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
283.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
Relentless Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Matt Leinart > Tom Brady
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Wait, whats his QB rating?.. you might be right..
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I know what you’re saying. Guys like Pennington and Culpepper rank high on the all time rating list but their careers were shorter as well.
You can’t ignore a 10 year veteran starters stats (rating etc.) as if it bears no relevance to how good a QB they are. You CAN i guess but it wouldn’t be fair.
Just cuz you have a predisposed hatred for the guy you should be even handed enough to admit that the stat bears some significance.
Favre ranks behind Palmer and others as far as rating even though he has been loaded at WR his whole career and blessed with a good line and decent running game.
He had a TEAM. Favre also threw for 336 int’s in 298 games…that doesn’t even count the numerouse fumbles he had in his career.
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I have nothing against Palmer. The price we paid for him is the problem.
I dont care how anyone tries to slice it, If you are the ALL TIME LEADER in TDs, YARDS, WINS and every other QB stat, there arent many QBs better than you.
Is it that hard to get?..
December 28th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
289.KoolKell Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
J Hill Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
Why am I nervous about Pryor having a good game?
Krapp getting the credit and another year.
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That may be Knapps only chance.
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Doubt it.
Wouldn’t the prevailing logic then be “why didn’t you fools do this weeks ago?”
December 28th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Next step, get rid of Krappy and throw away his worthless playbook, let Pryor play his game.
Makes a lot of sense not to start Leinart any way, the doltz sacked Greg McElroy 11 times and ended his season with a concussion, Leinart didn’t have a chance. Junior needs to let Pryor use his ability to get out in space and not make him hang around the pocket.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Carl Weathers Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
A week ago Pryor wasn’t ready to be the backup and this week he’s starting. Which is it DA? Man, do you look like a fool.
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Got put in his place some time since last week. Good as gone.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
It has been a great year!
Kings won the Cup.
Notre Dame undefeated and about to win another title.
Lakers traded an injured player for Dwight Howard.
And the Raiders will have fired this moronic staff by December 31st.
Fantasy Footabll Champ of this Blog!!!!
2012!
December 28th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
MORE excuses in case terrelle does well….
sad sack…
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I expect Pryor to play fairly well, especially outside of the pocket.
Takes awhile for NFL teams to know whether the blitz from the right side rattles you more than the left, your tendacies and so on and so forth.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
I will be looking for how TP runs the 2 minute offense, his command of the offense and if he can get guys lined up with enough time to audible and make line changes without having to burn timeouts, and his decision making on 3rd down.
I am sure he will break off a 30 yard run at sometime, and we will have to hear about it five thousand times during the offseason, but you need cake before you can have frosting.
Running around is just frosting. Commanding the 2 minute offense and not getting lured into turnovers on 3rd down is the cake.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
A year from now, I guarantee you that RGIII, Cam and Kapernick will be talking about Pryor, how he’s the measuring stick. Everyone who has seen him play know he’s special, and TP will make believers out of all of you fools who doubted.
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I have no predisposed opinion of how Pryor will do. I am NOT one of the doubters per se.
I HOPE you are right, but to suggest Pryor will be better than the guys u mentioned is a very bold statement.
I’m not sure what you are basing your glorification of Pryor on, but as I said, I will do cartwheels of joy and delight if you are right about him.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
I’ve never heard coaches say coach what you know before.. most coaches know quit a bit about the game and can adjust to their players… clowns… bums..
December 28th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
MORE excuses in case terrelle does well….
sad sack…
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Not an excuse, that is the truth.
Or do you not think NFL defenses watch film and gameplan?
December 28th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Can we start a Fire Frank Pollack campaign in here too? It has been criminal what he has done with this offensive line.
Bring back Bob Wylie and Wiz, ASAP!
December 28th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
A lot of guys on this blog like to use the “we are rebuilding” excuse on this crap season and are some of the same guys hating on TP. Hey, if TP does good then what? Going with a young QB like TP next year is rebuilding uh???
December 28th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Wouldn’t the prevailing logic then be “why didn’t you fools do this weeks ago?”
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Not airlessness, It could be that they took their time in developing him properly….
December 28th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
Wouldn’t the prevailing logic then be “why didn’t you fools do this weeks ago?”
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Not necessarily, It could be that they took their time in developing him properly….
December 28th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
Is their a gash leeeek in heaaaaar????
zzzzzzzzzzz
December 28th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
Nobody knows how tp will do… thats why he should have started the last 4 games… staff of crap
December 28th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
they have not been developing pryor.. theyve been sitting him. THEY are retarded
December 28th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
305,
Oh I get it. I’ve always been a Favre fan.
I am not suggesting Palmer is better than Favre. Favre has a ring and consistent winning seasons to back him up.
I do think he had a better shake of things being in an org like GB instead of Cincinnati and Oakland which make Palmers stats look even better than they are.
In the sense the trade for Palmer did not yield the results intended? You can’t argue that.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Marks Hair Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
I’ve never heard coaches say coach what you know before.. most coaches know quit a bit about the game and can adjust to their players… clowns… bums..
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Yep. I want a coach that can adapt. Thats what the greats can do.
This isnt the 90s. In case Allen and Knapp havent been noticing, the league is changing at a rapid pace. New schemes, new skillsets at positions that they werent available at before, etc. If you are a coach that is set on only coaching “what you know”, you arent going to last in this league and you are going to be consistently outcoached and by creative staffs.
The NFL caught up to Knapps style WAY back in the 90s. If you arent a coach that is interested in constantly LEARNING NEW TRICKS AND SCHEMES to implement, YOU WILL FAIL AND BE LEFT BEHIND BY THE REST OF THE LEAGUE. This is real.
Good, creative coaches try to put the players they have in a position to succeed. Not make excuses about the players that they have not fitting into their outdated ways of running things.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Finally we get to see the “wave of the future”
December 28th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Palmer was an elite QB, yep. Never said he wasnt.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
The trade for Palmer set our team back.
Mortgaged future.
So yea, im a little sour on it.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
If Favre had been drafted by the Raiders, you would barely remember his name…..oh, you mean that backup QB that got in that one time?
Sometimes I don’t think it matters who we draft….they are simply going to be mishandled and suck no matter what.
SMH
December 28th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
I do think he had a better shake of things being in an org like GB instead of Cincinnati and Oakland which make Palmers stats look even better than they are.
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As soon as Palmer left, Cincy began to rise. Funny that.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
Palmer always had WRs..
December 28th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
DAV,
Perry Fewell
Dom Capers
Mike Zimmer
Bruce Arians
Kyle Shanahan
Vic Fangio
Hell….Jim Fassell would be an upgrade from Dennis Allen.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
Nobody knows how Pryor will do? I do.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
Josh Dubow @JoshDubowAP
MIke Brisiel leads #Raiders with 10 penalties called against him.Tommy Kelly second with 9
====================================================
After getting rid of Routt? I guess you gotta pay top dollar for penalties nowadays.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
Do we hope he can be better than Palmer? Of course. We want to see him play well so we can have something to look forward to. Palmer is not the savior either. Don’t act like his 4000 yards haven’t been aided by junk time defenses. He isn’t removed from blame on this team nor should he take all of it.
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Of course not. Palmer isn’t a great QB, although I don’t think he has played on a great team yet. I made the comparison to Eli. Eli isn’t worth a plug nickle sometimes when the team is playing horribly. Put you get him on a team on a roll in the play-offs.. LOOK OUT!
Thats what I am hoping for in Palmer… just surround him with better players and better COACHING.
Everybody besides fans are looking at Pryor as nothing more than a long term project at best. I hope if he stinks out loud Sunday it doesn’t set his progress back. My guess is after he heaves an interception and SD starts sacking him, he will simply take off running every play. Who knows though…
December 28th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
How about a coaching staff of:
Dom Capers HC
Norv OC
Rivera DC
December 28th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
Get your Popcorn ready…
December 28th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
As soon as that squirrel climbed that tree, I heard a horn honk. Therefore horns honk. When squirrels climb trees.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
Perry Fewell – Maybe
Dom Capers – Nope
Mike Zimmer – Yes
Bruce Arians – No
Kyle Shanahan – Wont Leave
Vic Fangio – Nope
December 28th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
How about we take a shot at Jay Gruden for HC…
December 28th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
You guys want Gruden?
Me too.
Jay Gruden.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
Dan78, jinx.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
dr_robert Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
Nobody knows how Pryor will do? I do.
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I made my prediction. Let’s here yours bigmouth. We’ll see who walks the walk afterwards. You are all fluff, nothing more.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
338.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
Perry Fewell – Maybe
Dom Capers – Nope
Mike Zimmer – Yes
Bruce Arians – No
Kyle Shanahan – Wont Leave
Vic Fangio – Nope
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Elucidate please.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
I feel like a lot of u have the understanding of football of a twelve year old. “Pryor’s gonna be awesome! I just know it!”
December 28th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
Kaepernick RGIII Luck and Wilson are all doing well. Is it so hard to have some sort of hope that Pryor can pull off something special? Never say never.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
I love how pissed lion-o seems after the decision was made. He knows he wont be on this team next year.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
TP was talkig about how the team got a charge when he shows up in the huddle. That tells me a lot. Says hes ready to lead this team. time is now..period
December 28th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
My prediction?
12-25 105 yards 0 Tds 1 int
12 rushes 65 yards 1 td 1 fumble
December 28th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
I would never want a Shanahan HCing the Raiders. Not the old man especially or his punkass son either. I hate them, and their faces.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
Perry Fewell – Has kind of flamed out as a HC candidate.
Dom Capers – Nope. Old. Wont connect.
Mike Zimmer – Yes.
Bruce Arians – No. Dont think he should be getting as much kudos as he has been.
Kyle Shanahan – Wont Leave. RG3. Period.
Vic Fangio – Nope. Not a HC. He’s the Defensive Norv Turner.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
Pryor starting – finally you can all shut up.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Since the organization wont want to pay top dollar for Jon they might pay nickles and dimes for Jay….
December 28th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Relentless Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
I would never want a Shanahan HCing the Raiders. Not the old man especially or his punkass son either. I hate them, and their faces.
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With all due respect, Thats just dumb.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
You saw my prediction above, dr idiot. One of us will have bragging rights. Other one will be the doormat, about to be stepped on.
Don’t run that weak ‘that wasn’t me’ crap when you lose.
Your goin down, sucka.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
Dan78 Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Since the organization wont want to pay top dollar for Jon they might pay nickles and dimes for Jay….
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Jay wont come cheap.
He is one of the hottest coaching names around right now.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Relentless Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
I would never want a Shanahan HCing the Raiders. Not the old man especially or his punkass son either. I hate them, and their faces.
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With all due respect, Thats just dumb.
________________
eh…. at least its consistent
December 28th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
348.Relentless Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
I would never want a Shanahan HCing the Raiders. Not the old man especially or his punkass son either. I hate them, and their faces.
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Agreed, No more Shanahanigens
December 28th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
2012:
350.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
Perry Fewell – Has kind of flamed out as a HC candidate. (Makes him available to the likes of us!)
Dom Capers – Nope. Old. Wont connect. (Dennis Allen is young….did he connect? How is old azz Tom Coughlin connecting with the Giants?)
Mike Zimmer – Yes. (Yes)
Bruce Arians – No. Dont think he should be getting as much kudos as he has been. (Look at Pitt without him)
Kyle Shanahan – Wont Leave. RG3. Period. (No QB will ever make a coordinator give up the dream of being a HC)
Vic Fangio – Nope. Not a HC. He’s the Defensive Norv Turner. (Maybe)
December 28th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
305,
Oh I get it. I’ve always been a Favre fan.
I am not suggesting Palmer is better than Favre. Favre has a ring and consistent winning seasons to back him up.
I do think he had a better shake of things being in an org like GB instead of Cincinnati and Oakland which make Palmers stats look even better than they are.
In the sense the trade for Palmer did not yield the results intended? You can’t argue that.
>>>>
There simply isn’t enough information yet to judge.
If Palmer sticks up 4000 yards again on a team where the OC forgets to have a red zone offense as a priority again, and we end up 4-12 again.. yes, we got TOOK.
CP will prolly retire or try to move on somewhere else with a better team in place.
Thats why its so important we get a premier offensive coaching staff, a number one WR, and ride side line help this off season.
The CP trade can either be a bust or a bonanza… its up to McK and Allen to make it so, IMO. Not just CP.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
Chip Kelly & Terrelle Pryor.
Hmm..
December 28th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
I think Pryor will have a tough go of it and that is why the coaching staff should have played him for more than just the last game.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
Dan78 Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Since the organization wont want to pay top dollar for Jon they might pay nickles and dimes for Jay….
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Jay wont come cheap.
He is one of the hottest coaching names around right now.
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I get you but I meant In Jon type of $$$$$$$$$$
December 28th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
Didn’t we already have a Shanahan HC experience? I’m just saying it didn’t turn out to well. Even now that the old man is dead I just don’t see him or his son turning anything around here.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
The Carson Palmer trade will never be a bonanza.
He simply isnt worth a 1st & 2nd round pick.
Period.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
Jay Gruden, eh? He’s got no more cred than Dennis Allen
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay_Gruden
December 28th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
The Carson Palmer trade will never be a bonanza.
He simply isnt worth a 1st & 2nd round pick.
Period.
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Well he was worth a first. After that the second isnt that big of a stretch
December 28th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
Monday morning paper-”AFC West is glad Raiders didn’t play Pryor earlier in year” Whole NFL will be glad he didn’t play because our season would have ended up different. Guaranteed…period
December 28th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
Lol priest. My prediction is based on a first (and likely last) start by an inexperienced guy with documented “throwing problems” on a bad team, while u seem to think he will burst onto the scene and wear a cape. Yeah. I guess one of us will be laughing at the other. But I think u will be the one claiming it wasn’t u.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
363.Relentless Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
Didn’t we already have a Shanahan HC experience? I’m just saying it didn’t turn out to well. Even now that the old man is dead I just don’t see him or his son turning anything around here.
+++++++++++++++++
Yeah, he should have stayed as head coach. Damn him for wanting to get the ball to that uppity black ND player Tim Brown instead of Willie Gault!
Did you like that KK?
December 28th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
dr_robert Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
My prediction?
12-25 105 yards 0 Tds 1 int
12 rushes 65 yards 1 td 1 fumble
>>>>
No way do I see that many passes.
SD is going to be harassing the hell out of him (as they did CP?) and he won’t have time to throw that many times… he will simply take off running… he puts up over 100 yards rushing, IMO.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
If after a year and a half you cant even get a 3rd for Carson Palmer, then he wasnt worth a 1st to begin with LOL..
December 28th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
The Carson Palmer trade will never be a bonanza.
He simply isnt worth a 1st & 2nd round pick.
Period.
>>>>
You’re an obstinate little thang, aren’t you? Are you like this in RL?
December 28th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
Yeah, he should have stayed as head coach. Damn him for wanting to get the ball to that uppity black ND player Tim Brown instead of Willie Gault!
Did you like that KK?
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Sorry, that one is a little over my head. ;-(
December 28th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
And I’m back!
December 28th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
I know you’re all thrilled as well.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
Jay Gruden TURNED DOWN Jax, STL & the Colts last year..
#Boss
December 28th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
I’ve wanted to see Pryor play all year long. I think that in red zone situations we could have used more double reverses or anything with DMac TP and Reece in the back. Only 3 rushing TD’s this year is sickening. Im hoping that TP does succeed. I’m not saying he’s going to be the greatest thing to ever hit the NFL but I still have hope. But if he craps out so be it. But he should have been used since the getgo.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
Gdog Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
The Carson Palmer trade will never be a bonanza.
He simply isnt worth a 1st & 2nd round pick.
Period.
>>>>
You’re an obstinate little thang, aren’t you? Are you like this in RL?
—-
Did you say that with a lisp?..
December 28th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
If Al Davis keeps Mike Shanahan as head coach, then Bo Jackson never gets hurt in the Bungholes game and we have two super bowl victories in the 1990s and Dungver has NONE.
FK!
December 28th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
Did you say that with a lisp?..
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Lol.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
Testing, Part 2
December 28th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
376.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
Jay Gruden TURNED DOWN Jax, STL & the Colts last year..
#Boss
+++++++++++++++++++
Don’t worry, you can change your handle to DomCapersTucksPads next year. We will still converse with you!
December 28th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
Gdog Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
The Carson Palmer trade will never be a bonanza.
He simply isnt worth a 1st & 2nd round pick.
Period.
>>>>
You’re an obstinate little thang, aren’t you? Are you like this in RL?
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Did you say that with a lisp?..
>>>>
Lol. You ARE a little child. Its obvious.
I can only imagine what you are like on game day.
I bet you start the game in a crowd and end up by yourself… and have no clue why!
December 28th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
332.Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
Josh Dubow @JoshDubowAP
MIke Brisiel leads #Raiders with 10 penalties called against him.Tommy Kelly second with 9
====================================================
After getting rid of Routt? I guess you gotta pay top dollar for penalties nowadays.
********************************************************
Routt had 17 penalties last year, which was over 10% of the entire team total.
What makes that an even more astonishing stat is that about the only time a DB gets called for anything is when the ball’s thrown his way.
Our top DB last year, and a backup for the Texans after being cut by the worst team in football.
And some of you people think we don’t have a talent problem.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
Dakota Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
376.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
Jay Gruden TURNED DOWN Jax, STL & the Colts last year..
#Boss
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Don’t worry, you can change your handle to DomCapersTucksPads next year. We will still converse with you!
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LOL..
I was thinking DomCapersToupe
December 28th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
Afraid Pryor’s not going to do much, but who knows?
December 28th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
370.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
If after a year and a half you cant even get a 3rd for Carson Palmer, then he wasnt worth a 1st to begin with LOL..
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C’Mon we are the Raiders…we traded for Randy Moss giving up a 1st, Nap Harris and a 7th and we could barely get a 4th for him 2 years later.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
Gdog Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
Gdog Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
The Carson Palmer trade will never be a bonanza.
He simply isnt worth a 1st & 2nd round pick.
Period.
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You’re an obstinate little thang, aren’t you? Are you like this in RL?
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Did you say that with a lisp?..
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Lol. You ARE a little child. Its obvious.
I can only imagine what you are like on game day.
I bet you start the game in a crowd and end up by yourself… and have no clue why!
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Relax Jr..
December 28th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
Raider Prediction Board
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Week 1: Alex7: Chargers 27 Raiders 20 (22/14)
Week 2: R8eray: Dolphins 20 Raiders 13 (35/13)
Week 3: Plunketthead Raiders 30 Steelers 27 (34/31) R
Week 4: Amysincharge: Denver 48-7 (37-6)
Week 5: Klas Tjorborn: Falcons 35 Raiders 20 (23/20)
Week 6: qodrn: Raiders 27 Jags 20 (26/23 OT) R
Week 7: raidermarty/VaRaiderNation Raiders 27 –
Chiefs 17 (26/16) R
Week 8: Bye Week.
Week 9: JONGRUDEN2012: Baltimore 47 Oakland 13
Week 10: GG: Saints 45 Raiders 17
Week 11: GG: 34-16 Panthers
Week 12: backstageatapupptshow: Cleveland 27 Oakland 13 – reverse winner – Albert B. Paine 20/17
Week 13: Cork: Denver 33 Raiders 13 (26/13)
Week 14: Plunketthead Raiders 25 Missouri 17 (15-0) R
DKnight007 Says: Carolina 24 Raiders 10
dr_robert Says: raiders 24 panther 13
GG Says: Carolina 44 Oakland 17
Just Fire Baby Says: Raiders 37 Panthers 34
Just Win Baby Says: Carolina 55 – Oakland 15
LondonAl Says: 24-17 to Raiders
Mulligan44 Says: Panthers 41 Raiders (3 FGs)
Plunketthead Says: Raiders 26 Possumheads 17
Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure:Raiders 38 Camolina 21
qodrn: Raiders 27 Carolina 24
RaiderCrunch Says: Oak28 Car 10
RaiderRetribution Says: Raiders 28 Carolina zero
RaiderRockstar: Dirty Pirates 24 Black Panthers 17
December 28th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
After watching Pryors’ PC, I have to say, he seems intellegent and is well spoken. My expectations have gone up. BTW fire DA, Knapp and the entire coaching staff. The worst I have seen in my 40 plus years of being a fan.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
Gdog–yeah. 20+ passes is unlikely but I had to find a way for him to get 100 yards passing. Lol.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
Edward Teach Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
And some of you people think we don’t have a talent problem.
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Last year we had a 8-8 talent problem, this year we have a 4-12 talent problem. Big difference, Boss
December 28th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
Well Nation, homers, ignorant fans, trolls & retards..
Its quitting time..
God Bless.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
Edward Teach Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
And some of you people think we don’t have a talent problem.
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Last year we had a 8-8 talent problem, this year we have a 4-12 talent problem. Big difference, Boss
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Hue wouldn’t have done any better with this cruddy team.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
And here I was afraid that Raider Drama would end with Al Davis……
December 28th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
All that happened after al davis died is that Sullivan had to use his other handles more often.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
Hue wouldn’t have done any better with this cruddy team.
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You are entitled to your opinion, but, we were 8-8 last year.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
Chip Kelly could get any coaching job in college and write his own check, and even go to some handpicked NFL jobs.
So what would he get low-balled by Reggie in Oakland?
New rule, we can only throw out names in here, who would at least show up for an interview.
That means Jon Gruden and Chip Kelly are out. Feel free to add others.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
391.KoolKell Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
Edward Teach Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
And some of you people think we don’t have a talent problem.
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Last year we had a 8-8 talent problem, this year we have a 4-12 talent problem. Big difference, Boss
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Last year’s team crashed and burned at the end. They were in the playoff hunt and choked it away. The 4-12 problem started long before this season began, and was exacerbated by an inability to retain certain players and infuse the team with new talent. Not the whole story, but certainly a big part of it.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
395….lol
December 28th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Bring back the ghost of Al when they fire DA… We can have seance and have Reggie mumble what Al is saying…
December 28th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Was it Hue or Jason Campbell who was responsible for us winning some games last year?
December 28th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
Chip Kelly could get any coaching job in college and write his own check, and even go to some handpicked NFL jobs.
So what would he get low-balled by Reggie in Oakland?
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Also, why would he move down to Oakland, only to get fired after one year? Makes no sense.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
google comes up with one more for “fire dennis allen…”
PLEASE fire dennis allen
lol
December 28th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
This time last year we were playing for a playoff berth.
If Bresnahan had only put Seymour on Megatron instead of Rolando McClain down the stretch. Dreams, dreams.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
Tuckrulefool Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
google comes up with one more for “fire dennis allen…”
PLEASE fire dennis allen
lol
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WHY???
December 28th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
What makes you think Reggie would lowball a new coach prospect?
December 28th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
gruden would come to oakland if asked…
better rule….only use names associated wth the packers, texaints and donkeys….thats whst reggie loves…
December 28th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
@Just Fire Baby
Why would anybody take the Raiders job?
Well any coach that comes in and turns the Raiders around wouldn’t he/she be considered a genius? A great football mind? Not saying it would happen, but if John Gruden came back and led the Raiders to the playoffs, wouldn’t that almost guarantee him into the HOF?
December 28th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
Reggie = Penny pincher
December 28th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
gruden would come to oakland if asked…
better rule….only use names associated wth the packers, texaints and donkeys….thats whst reggie loves…
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And why on Earth would we want Gruden back?
December 28th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
this is quite telling and REALLY supports the suggestion that D0A getting big pressure from RM and or MD….
how/why could he flop so quickly (ok dont answer that literally)….
this guy if anything has been a PIG HEADED FOOL….and NOT someone who adjusts or modifies his though process..
as such this is WAY out of character for this clowne…
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Carl Weathers Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
A week ago Pryor wasn’t ready to be the backup and this week he’s starting. Which is it DA? Man, do you look like a fool.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
dr_robert Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
Gdog–yeah. 20+ passes is unlikely but I had to find a way for him to get 100 yards passing. Lol.
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Thats tough to see.
I think the over/under for completions is 8. SD was swarming CP in the first game… and I simply don’t see Knapp smart enough to keep TP out of trouble.
SD is second in the league in sacks remember.
I still think by the second half TP will just say screw it and take off running every play not designed to run.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
Raider Prediction Board
Dedicated to Al Davis, Raider duct tape (boy does it hold) and the Coliseum rodents
Week 1: Alex7: Chargers 27 Raiders 20 (22/14)
Week 2: R8eray: Dolphins 20 Raiders 13 (35/13)
Week 3: Plunketthead Raiders 30 Steelers 27 (34/31) R
Week 4: Amysincharge: Denver 48-7 (37-6)
Week 5: Klas Tjorborn: Falcons 35 Raiders 20 (23/20)
Week 6: qodrn: Raiders 27 Jags 20 (26/23 OT) R
Week 7: raidermarty/VaRaiderNation Raiders 27 –
Chiefs 17 (26/16) R
Week 8: Bye Week.
Week 9: JONGRUDEN2012: Baltimore 47 Oakland 13
Week 10: GG: Saints 45 Raiders 17
Week 11: GG: 34-16 Panthers
Week 12: backstageatapupptshow: Cleveland 27 Oakland 13 – reverse winner – Albert B. Paine 20/17
Week 13: Cork: Denver 33 Raiders 13 (26/13)
Week 14: Plunketthead Raiders 25 Missouri 17 (15-0) R
Week 15: DKnight007 Says: Carolina 24 Raiders 10
qodrn: Raiders 20 Chargers 19
December 28th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
407.Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
gruden would come to oakland if asked…
better rule….only use names associated wth the packers, texaints and donkeys….thats whst reggie loves…
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Bring on Wade Phillips and Winston Moss then!
December 28th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
410.RaiderDuck Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
gruden would come to oakland if asked…
better rule….only use names associated wth the packers, texaints and donkeys….thats whst reggie loves…
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And why on Earth would we want Gruden back?
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Instant Butts in the seats factor?
December 28th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
because dennis allen is too busy trying to figure out how to use a sharpie…
December 28th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
410.RaiderDuck Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
gruden would come to oakland if asked…
better rule….only use names associated wth the packers, texaints and donkeys….thats whst reggie loves…
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And why on Earth would we want Gruden back?
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Instant Butts in the seats factor?
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Are we looking for that, or a winning team? Because once Tony Dungy’s team in Tampa dissipated, Gruden was a hot mess. Add to that no NFL coach in the last half-century being successful in his second stint with a team, and it’s hard to see the Gruden-love.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
This time last year we were playing for a playoff berth.
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This time last year we were 1-5 in our last six games, and would have been 0-6 if Richard Seymour didn’t miraculously block two kicks in the same game to beat KC.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
Mike Shanahan would have never gotten Raiders to the Super Bowl with his fines for sitting on helmets. He hit a gold mine with Elway. In fact, DA reminds me of a pre-Elway Shanahan. DA also reminds me of the stubborness displayed by Rex Ryan. DA’s the type of coach that would serve up the third-stringer for 11 more sacks in the next game. Thank God Reggie and/or Mark stepped in.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
418.edward teach Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
This time last year we were playing for a playoff berth.
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This time last year we were 1-5 in our last six games, and would have been 0-6 if Richard Seymour didn’t miraculously block two kicks in the same game to beat KC.
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Chalk up that Miracle to good Special teams coaching
December 28th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
DA is trying to decide whether to use a blue or an orange sharpie….
December 28th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
This time last year we were playing for a playoff berth.
If Bresnahan had only put Tommy Kelly on Megatron instead of Rolando McClain down the stretch. Dreams, dreams.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
Kellygreenninja Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
Mike Shanahan would have never gotten Raiders to the Super Bowl with his fines for sitting on helmets. He hit a gold mine with Elway. In fact, DA reminds me of a pre-Elway Shanahan. DA also reminds me of the stubborness displayed by Rex Ryan. DA’s the type of coach that would serve up the third-stringer for 11 more sacks in the next game. Thank God Reggie and/or Mark stepped in.
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Pryor starting also probably means that DA’s coming back next year. Reggie probably told him “You’re coming back next year, so start Pryor for this game. We won’t hold the loss against you.”
December 28th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
Exit McClain,Gaither,and Kelly….enter Teo’, Kaseem Green,John Jenkins…..Plese!!!!!
December 28th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
mark pimp slapped DA into playing pryor…next up is the “get outta town pimp slap…”
December 28th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
This time last year we were playing for a playoff berth.
Correction: This time last year we simply putting on the uniform and trotted out onto the field — we were NOT playing!
December 28th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
mark pimp slapped DA into playing pryor…next up is the “get outta town pimp slap…”
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Nope. DA will be back next year, along with (hopefully) a new OC…
December 28th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
423.RaiderDuck Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
Kellygreenninja Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
Mike Shanahan would have never gotten Raiders to the Super Bowl with his fines for sitting on helmets. He hit a gold mine with Elway. In fact, DA reminds me of a pre-Elway Shanahan. DA also reminds me of the stubborness displayed by Rex Ryan. DA’s the type of coach that would serve up the third-stringer for 11 more sacks in the next game. Thank God Reggie and/or Mark stepped in.
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Pryor starting also probably means that DA’s coming back next year. Reggie probably told him “You’re coming back next year, so start Pryor for this game. We won’t hold the loss against you.”
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Do you think the coordinators will get the axe (scapegoats)? If so, think that Reggie gets veto power over his coaching staff?
December 28th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
After listening to Coach Tarver…I actually think he might have some future as HC in this league….
December 28th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
HELL YEAH MUTHAFUGGAZ!!!!!
WHERE ARE ALL OF THOSE IDIOTS THAT SAID PRYOR WILL NEVER START A GAME FOR THE RAIDERS??!?!
CHEW AND SWALLOW PALMER WORSHIPERS, TP6 IS CLEARED FOR TAKE OFF!!
December 28th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
DA might be busy getting the Donkeys ready for the playoffs. We know he is a donkey at heart…
December 28th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
Raidertbone Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
This time last year we were playing for a playoff berth.
Correction: This time last year we simply putting on the uniform and trotted out onto the field — we were NOT playing!
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If Bresnahan had only put Tommy Kelly on Megatron instead of Rolando McClain down the stretch. Dreams, dreams.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
Was it Hue or Jason Campbell who was responsible for us winning some games last year?
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Seabass and Condo
December 28th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
429.BOKNOWS Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
After listening to Coach Tarver…I actually think he might have some future as HC in this league….
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I loved his “No way we can stop Peyton Manning” speech too.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
420.The_Judge37 Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
418.edward teach Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
This time last year we were playing for a playoff berth.
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This time last year we were 1-5 in our last six games, and would have been 0-6 if Richard Seymour didn’t miraculously block two kicks in the same game to beat KC.
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Chalk up that Miracle to good Special teams coaching
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The first one, maybe. I’m chalking the second one up to bad special teams coaching on the Chiefs’ part.
Either way, it’s something you almost never see, which is why the difference between 1-5 and 0-6 to end the year is merely semantics. We sucked down the stretch, and 4-11 is merely an extension of that, minus certain players McKenzie would have kept and/or signed if he could, and a lack of a first or second round draft choice.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
I say that DA gets one more year.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
Do you think the coordinators will get the axe (scapegoats)? If so, think that Reggie gets veto power over his coaching staff?
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I think Knapp and Hoffman get the axe for sure.
Tarver probably stays.
I suspect the hiring process for the new assistants will be collaborative, with DA getting the final say. And he’ll already know that he’d better get it right this time. Being able to start hiring assistants as soon as the season ends will help a TON.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
Dutch,
Well the reason our current coaches have been taking the job (Callahan, Shell, Kiffin, Cable, Hue, DA) is because it is the best job they have been offered.
When you start talking about the Chip Kelly’s and Jon Gruden’s, that isn’t the case anymore.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
Dan78 Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
DA might be busy getting the Donkeys ready for the playoffs. We know he is a donkey at heart…
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WAS. Now, he’s a Raider.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
Wonder what would’ve happened if we had traded DMac and hitched our wagon to Michael Bush …
December 28th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
Weren’t Pryors huddle problems mentioned by someone else here yesterday?
Interesting DA would bring it up today… “I want to see him take command of the huddle. I want to see us get in and out of the huddle and the operation be smooth.”
December 28th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
Raiders-21
Chargers-17
December 28th, 2012 at 3:54 pm
I see many rush TD’s this game from DMac and TP.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:54 pm
Raidertbone Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
Wonder what would’ve happened if we had traded DMac and hitched our wagon to Michael Bush
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Heck, we should have traded DMac and hitched our wagon to Goodson. At least he knows how to run in the ZBS.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:54 pm
i can remember when we drafted Russel I was so excited. After he played in the last game to knock tb out of the playoffs I was sure we had a qb for years to come. Well we know what happened, a perfect shid storm.
Now I look at pryor, not only is a far more athletic than russel, but his work ethic is unmatched.
He is one of the first guys in and one of the last guys to leave.
His talent coupled with his work ethic could mean we have our own wave of the future qb!!!
Im Juiced!!!!!!
December 28th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
All we need now is a signal jammer, to keep Knapp out of Pryor’s helmet
December 28th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
Raiders 21, Chargers 20
(21 points on 7 field goals!)
December 28th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
Gdog Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
Weren’t Pryors huddle problems mentioned by someone else here yesterday?
Interesting DA would bring it up today… “I want to see him take command of the huddle. I want to see us get in and out of the huddle and the operation be smooth.”
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Every coach says that about every new QB. Find another excuse to hate.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
It will be nice to see TP and Dmac lined up together but Knapp is just not creative enough to use them correctly.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
444.RaiderDuck Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:54 pm
Raidertbone Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
Wonder what would’ve happened if we had traded DMac and hitched our wagon to Michael Bush
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Heck, we should have traded DMac and hitched our wagon to Goodson. At least he knows how to run in the ZBS.
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Or, not trade away our best offensive player and run a power scheme. But your way sounds alot stupider
December 28th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
yahoo is saying mark and reggie already looking for DAs replacement…
Danus allen doesnt have an inch of raider in his body except when mcclain bned him!
December 28th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/28/terrelle-pryor-to-start-for-raiders-on-sunday/
The troll factor will go up ten thousand fold if this guy screws up.
Good luck, TP6, SERIOUSLY
shut these idiots up.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
The players want to see DA take control of the team, and operate as a HC in a game smoothly. Sadly it never happened. Who is DA to talk about others?
December 28th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
3.RaiderDebo Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
This sets up a situation where Knapp and DA both stay. If Pryor kills it, continuity is the best thing for our 2013 opening day starter.
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Doubt it. If Pryor kills it Knapp will get fired for stupidity. As it stands now, he’s getting fired for incompetence.
December 28th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
Dumb monkeys
December 28th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
FUN FACTS
Some don’t realize how fast he is:
Terrelle Pryor 6′6 4.36 40-yard dash at pro day
Michael Vick 6′0 4.33 40-yard dash at pro day
We all know how dangerous Vick is/was…..
Chris Johnson 4.24 0-yard dash at pro day
December 28th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
lmao 450
December 28th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
yahoo is saying mark and reggie already looking for DAs replacement…
Danus allen doesnt have an inch of raider in his body except when mcclain bned him!
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9. “Oakland Raiders – According to one source, owner Mark Davis and GM Reggie McKenzie were talking to confidants as recently as the past week about what to do with first-year coach Dennis Allen, who has done little or nothing to inspire confidence. More proof that the Raiders should have stuck with Hue Jackson.”
NFL stands for Not for long.
December 28th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
Yep. The Raiders were an 8/8 team last year…. And only 1 game up from being 4th place in the Afc west…..
December 28th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
Yeah missdick–he should be able to “command the huddle” like a champ.
I thought u said he definitely WAS. A wave if the future guy. Now it’s only maybe?
Getting ready to make excuses?
December 28th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
yahoo is saying mark and reggie already looking for DAs replacement…
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Link????????
December 28th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
Danus Allen..haha
Da works for the donks.. this is sabotage
December 28th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
Or, not trade away our best offensive player and run a power scheme. But your way sounds alot stupider
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Great idea! Let’s stick with angle-blocking, which requires a premium running back! And let’s see what happens when someone sneezes on DMac and knocks him out for 6 games at a time! Woohoo!
December 28th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
RaidO Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
yahoo is saying mark and reggie already looking for DAs replacement…
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Link????????
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There is no link other than Jason Cole assuming we’re going to toss our HC because hey, that’s been our pattern every single freaking year.
December 28th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
Benedict Allen!
December 28th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
link
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl–five-nfl-coaches-most-likely-to-get-fired-and-their-potential-replacements-211123019.html
December 28th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
463.RaiderDuck Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
Or, not trade away our best offensive player and run a power scheme. But your way sounds alot stupider
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Great idea! Let’s stick with angle-blocking, which requires a premium running back! And let’s see what happens when someone sneezes on DMac and knocks him out for 6 games at a time! Woohoo!
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The Almighty Goodson could’ve easily stepped in and continued to dominate like Bush did, since he’s better than McFadden right?
December 28th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
see 458…
December 28th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
RaiderSam Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
link
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl–five-nfl-coaches-most-likely-to-get-fired-and-their-potential-replacements-211123019.html
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Thanks!
December 28th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
see 466…lmao
December 28th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
The Almighty Goodson could’ve easily stepped in and continued to dominate like Bush did, since he’s better than McFadden right?
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Bush averaged 3.6 yards/carry this year.
Goodson’s at 6.2.
December 28th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
see 469…
December 28th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
Mrs krapp to greg.. your balls smell like shìt..
Gregry to mrs krapp.. it’s my balls fault
Mrs krapp to greg… no you wipe your àss in the wrong direction idiot..
Greg to mrs krapp.. but its all I know so my balls will have to adjust..
Mrs krapp to greg THIS is why i suck someone else’s dìck.
December 28th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
The best thing for Pryor is to have the staff return next season.
New staffs typically want to develop “their” guys.
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I disagree although I do think pryor could actually make knapp look good.
No we need an oc that knows how to use speed and pryors unique ability.
Give me a wco option hybrid spread
wher pryor can dink and dunk and let the receivers run with the ball,.
Pistol formations where you can pass or run power football, hello dmac.
triple option to utilize zone reads and pryors running.
Then when the defense has 9-10 in the box let pryor rip one deep to our speedsters ford moore and dhb
COME ON OAKLAND GET WITH THE TIMES!!!!
December 28th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
see 469…
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Which is nothing more than Jason Cole guessing that we’ll fire our head coach because we’ve done so the last three years running.
December 28th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
9. Oakland Raiders – According to one source, owner Mark Davis and GM Reggie McKenzie were talking to confidants as recently as the past week about what to do with first-year coach Dennis Allen, who has done little or nothing to inspire confidence. More proof that the Raiders should have stuck with Hue Jackson.
December 28th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
daym goodson should be in hof….too bad he has never been a starter anywhere…
December 28th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
Saints and Sean Payton agreed in “principle” for him to return to them.
December 28th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
daym goodson should be in hof….too bad he has never been a starter anywhere…
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Neither has Bush…
December 28th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
Damm i was really excited until i saw it was written by “Expert” Jason Cole.
December 28th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
I thought Bush said he didn’t wanna be a backup…
December 28th, 2012 at 4:13 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
Bush averaged 3.6 yards/carry this year.
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What did he avg HERE?
December 28th, 2012 at 4:13 pm
And Jason Campbell said it too…
December 28th, 2012 at 4:13 pm
Relentless Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
I thought Bush said he didn’t wanna be a backup…
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After his miserable performance for us down the stretch last year, nobody wanted him as a starter.
December 28th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 4:13 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
Bush averaged 3.6 yards/carry this year.
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What did he avg HERE?
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3.8 in 2011.
December 28th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
I really hope Pryor has a great game, but I think he’ll struggle some with SD’s pass rush. Hopefully he can make them pay with his feet and through the air after the plays break down. He’ll be doomed in Knapp’s O otherwise.
December 28th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
484- Yep, he got worse every game as the main workhorse. Crapped out.
December 28th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
Damm i was really excited until i saw it was written by “Expert” Jason Cole.
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“More proof that the Raiders should have stuck with Hue Jackson.”
How is that not an expert comment
December 28th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
486- Don’t forget that McElroy held on too long to the ball, didn’t scramble which caused atleast 8 of those on himself.
December 28th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
488.RaiderSam Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
Damm i was really excited until i saw it was written by “Expert” Jason Cole.
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“More proof that the Raiders should have stuck with Hue Jackson.”
How is that not an expert comment
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I’ll give him that, but his sources are about as realiable as a Greg Knapp game plan
December 28th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
Why do people keep forgetting that rebuilds take time? You can’t take a roster as cruddy as ours and expect instant results.
December 28th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
Remember that Jason Cole works alongside Hue’s press agent Mike Silver.
December 28th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
You just have to give Jason Cole time, his stories will have growing pains. It takes about a year to get it right.
December 28th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 4:13 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
Bush averaged 3.6 yards/carry this year.
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What did he avg HERE?
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3.8 in 2011.
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Does that help your sorry azz feel better about 4-12? Fine.
December 28th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
Michael Bush actually would have been Raider’s starter if he hadn’t broken his thumb in pre-season that one year.
December 28th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
Does that help your sorry azz feel better about 4-12? Fine.
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Again, we’re a team whose starters mostly check-cashers (Kelly, Seymour), track stars with no football smarts (DHB) or overrated pretty boys who get hurt at the drop of a hat (DMac). We were going to suck this year, no matter what.
December 28th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
daym goodson should be in hof….too bad he has never been a starter anywhere…
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Yeah, that Goodson being better than McFadden BS is one of the dumbest things that Raiders fans could have ever come up with.
They want to use Goodsons yards per carry average THIS YEAR ONLY as an indicator that hes better than Dmac. (Facepalm).
People, just watch some football. Just turn on the tv, find a link online, something, just WATCH the games.
#1, McFadden is our starting RB, featured back. That means he is going to get used in short yardage situations more often than Goodson, which will AUTOMATICALLY make his YPC lower.
#2, When McFadden is in the game, teams focus on him and stack 8 in the box. Goodson, being the THIRD DOWN CHANGE OF PACE BACK, actually comes in in different scenarios than DMac. And if you look at the succesful runs for Goodson, a lot of them have been on draws from Shotgun, which is a call that McFadden isnt getting this year. Goodson has found holes and done what hes been asked to do, which I commend him for, but comparing his YPC to Dmacs as a way to compare the 2 is just an uninformed argument. They arent asked to do the same things. Everyone who WATCHES games knows this. Dmac has 130 more carries than Goodson, in situations where opposing Defenses KNOW exactly whats coming.
But for those that want to defend Knapp, Pollack, and DA, its way easier to just to say Goodson is better than McFadden based on this seasons YPC, and NOTHING else. Mike Goodson has never been a better player than Darren McFadden on any day of his life. Not in HS, not in college, and not in the NFL.
December 28th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
DA was told by Mr. Davis to play TP or clean out his office. This was verified by 3 different personnel that I know personally. DA was also told by Reg that regardless of how TP starts the game, he will play at least 3 qtrs. At least. That you can take to the bank.
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lol
LOOKS LIKE JR HAS A BIT OF THE OLD MAN IN HIM AFTER ALL!!!!
THANK GOD!!
December 28th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Who ever said that Goodson is a better back than DMAC? Certainly not me. I have said that he’s a better fit for this system and Goodson + the first-rounder we might have been able to get for him > DMac for 11 games running in a system he refuses to adapt to.
December 28th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
No doubt this is Marks first good decision,and first sighn Allen is OUT OUT OUT!!!!!!
December 28th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Goody’s made of glass.. have you people forgot?
December 28th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
Marks Hair Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Goody’s made of glass.. have you people forgot?
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No, that would be DMac. Breathe on the dude too hard, and he’s out for a half-dozen games.
December 28th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Oakfshow Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
No doubt this is Marks first good decision,and first sighn Allen is OUT OUT OUT!!!!!!
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Relax. DA will be here next year, thank goodness.
December 28th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Reece not getting used is just another glaring example of this coaching staffs complete and utter incompetence..
December 28th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
491.RaiderDuck Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
Why do people keep forgetting that rebuilds take time? You can’t take a roster as cruddy as ours and expect instant results.
================================================= Coming from a guy who predicted playoffs for this year. This is why you get no respect in here.
December 28th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Interesting “probable” list for replacing the fired coaches in the yahoo article.
Out of all those replacements named in Cole’s article, the only one with potential is Jay Gruden, not John Chokey.
December 28th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
Oakfshow Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
491.RaiderDuck Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
Why do people keep forgetting that rebuilds take time? You can’t take a roster as cruddy as ours and expect instant results.
================================================= Coming from a guy who predicted playoffs for this year. This is why you get no respect in here.
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Really? I predicted playoffs? WHEN? Link, please.
December 28th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
Dmac is glass too… but goodys worse.. he cant go a game carring it 25 times..
December 28th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
507.RaiderDuck Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
Oakfshow Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
491.RaiderDuck Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
Why do people keep forgetting that rebuilds take time? You can’t take a roster as cruddy as ours and expect instant results.
================================================= Coming from a guy who predicted playoffs for this year. This is why you get no respect in here.
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Really? I predicted playoffs? WHEN? Link, please.
========================================================= Yes you most certainly did! Stop lieing or just change your screen name and start over. I was here.
December 28th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
The Bears are 9-6, The Raiders are 4-11. Michael Bush’s first opportunity to play for a winner. So take your hate and stick it up your azz.
December 28th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
Oakfshow Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Yes you most certainly did! Stop lieing or just change your screen name and start over. I was here.
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Nope. Didn’t predict playoffs for this year. If I’m remembering incorrectly, please supply the link.
December 28th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
488.RaiderSam Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
Damm i was really excited until i saw it was written by “Expert” Jason Cole.
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“More proof that the Raiders should have stuck with Hue Jackson.”
How is that not an expert comment
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I’ll give him that, but his sources are about as realiable as a Greg Knapp game plan
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LOL!!
December 28th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
The Bears are 9-6, The Raiders are 4-11. Michael Bush’s first opportunity to play for a winner. So take your hate and stick it up your azz.
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Hatred for what?
December 28th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
if we were smart enough to have the rebuilding year I predicted and wanted there would have been a fire sale…. we would have played all the young guys a ton once the playoffs were out.. and we would have the top pick… what we did instead was a lane fùckaround.. a waste of time.
December 28th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
Mike Bush not returning was an absolute joke of a decision by bottom lip.Should have started this year over Mcfaggen.
December 28th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
http://www.raiders.com/media-vault/videos/Terrelle-Pryor-Media-Session/1c5677bc-bcab-4828-9e07-a163aef88885
Interesting thing Pryor got asked and answered from about 3:20 onwards leading to the repeat question around 4:00 and his answer again.
December 28th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
Zopi Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Interesting “probable” list for replacing the fired coaches in the yahoo article.
Out of all those replacements named in Cole’s article, the only one with potential is Jay Gruden, not John Chokey.
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You mean the Jon Chokey that ran the Raiders out of the Super Bowl and never had a losing season in Oakland?
The Chokey who was the last consecutive winning head coach?
That one?
December 28th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
Lame fùck around.. phone
December 28th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Relax. DA will be here next year, thank goodness.
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Absolutely. And Allen deserves a second year. It’s funny because when I watch the games I see about a 180 degree differential from 90% of the posters here. Which is a good thing.
December 28th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
RaiderSam Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
You mean the Jon Chokey that ran the Raiders out of the Super Bowl and never had a losing season in Oakland?
The Chokey who was the last consecutive winning head coach?
That one?
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And the same one who was thoroughly mediocre in Tampa? The one who has NEVER built a decent football team on his own?
No thank you.
December 28th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Live down here in SD and have debated giving my tix to the game away for about 2 months now. I can’t believe I’m actually excited to go to the game now. Go TP!!
December 28th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
511.RaiderDuck Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
Oakfshow Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Yes you most certainly did! Stop lieing or just change your screen name and start over. I was here.
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Nope. Didn’t predict playoffs for this year. If I’m remembering incorrectly, please supply the link.
Like I would try and remember the link.We argued for 6 fkn weeks on the subject and Im sure some guys in here remember that.I cant stand this idiot.Knew he would backtrack after makeing an a$$ out of himself.
December 28th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
We should have our best rushing game as a team for sure. One positive thing with Tebows team last year they ran a lot, kept their defense fresh, and took time off the clock.
I mean, our O line still blows and we have a weak WR group. I will manage my expectations but the potential gets you pumped!!
December 28th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Owen Schmitt > All Raider RB’s
December 28th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Gruden went to Tampa Bay as their window for winning a Superbowl was closing. it was an older team.. and he didn’t get a chance to stick around for the rebuild. but he did get a Superbowl ring..
December 28th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Relax. DA will be here next year, thank goodness.
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Absolutely. And Allen deserves a second year. It’s funny because when I watch the games I see about a 180 degree differential from 90% of the posters here. Which is a good thing.
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You regurgitate every morsel the Raider PR Dept put out there, for years. Losing year after losing year.
That don’t make you no genius, Bootlicker.
December 28th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
520.RaiderDuck Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
RaiderSam Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
You mean the Jon Chokey that ran the Raiders out of the Super Bowl and never had a losing season in Oakland?
The Chokey who was the last consecutive winning head coach?
That one?
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And the same one who was thoroughly mediocre in Tampa? The one who has NEVER built a decent football team on his own?
No thank you.
====================================================== So who built the team that won all those games in 2000-2002. I remeber Lincoln Kennedy saying JOHN GRUDEN built that team when they were dissapointed he left for Tampa.Once again your full of sht!
December 28th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Marks Hair Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Gruden went to Tampa Bay as their window for winning a Superbowl was closing. it was an older team.. and he didn’t get a chance to stick around for the rebuild. but he did get a Superbowl ring..
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He was there for six seasons after their Super Bowl win, and produced exactly ONE 10-win season.
December 28th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
Oakfshow Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
So who built the team that won all those games in 2000-2002. I remeber Lincoln Kennedy saying JOHN GRUDEN built that team when they were dissapointed he left for Tampa.Once again your full of sht!
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Last on Twitter, Napoleon Kaufman stated that Al built that team, Dungy built Chucky’s Super Bowl team, and Gruden has NEVER built a winning team on his own. Never.
December 28th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
Owen shìt is not a raider..
December 28th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
528.RaiderDuck Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Marks Hair Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Gruden went to Tampa Bay as their window for winning a Superbowl was closing. it was an older team.. and he didn’t get a chance to stick around for the rebuild. but he did get a Superbowl ring..
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He was there for six seasons after their Super Bowl win, and produced exactly ONE 10-win season.
Raiderdick is probably not old enough to remember those years.Talks out of his a$$!
December 28th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Seymour Bush/Oakglen,
It’s funny how a Bootlicker like you is always right (in your mind) Yet the Raider are always wrong.
Funny that.
December 28th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
only one 10 win season?? this was after winning Tampa Bay first and only Superbowl right?
December 28th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
529.RaiderDuck Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
Oakfshow Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
So who built the team that won all those games in 2000-2002. I remeber Lincoln Kennedy saying JOHN GRUDEN built that team when they were dissapointed he left for Tampa.Once again your full of sht!
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Last on Twitter, Napoleon Kaufman stated that Al built that team, Dungy built Chucky’s Super Bowl team, and Gruden has NEVER built a winning team on his own. Never.
Lincoln Kennedy was here 2 more years after that.Nappy was gone in 2000 so I’ll take Kennedys word for it cheif.
December 28th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
I think it is very funny that hue jack is back in rotation as a potential hc. That is very good news.
I also think it is too bad he isnt our coach now, and wont be bak.
However if ther is a guy i would want next year n the nfl already give me KYle shanahan.
I LOVE WHAT HE DID WITH THE WCO HYBRID TRIPPLE OPTION /PISTOL AND RGiii
IMAGINE WHAT HE COULD DO WITH PRYOR DHB DMAC REECE FORD MOORE AND STREATER!!!!
DO IT YESTERDAY BIG MACK WE NEED THIS
December 28th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
Love the Fact TP is getting the start.
Gonna be a very interesting Offseason (IF) TP plays well.
Also cant wait to see who leaves and who gets brought in.
Who wants to keep there job?
“Last year at this time we were 7-4 and (ahead) in the division. Then we lost four out of our last five. And that’s why I didn’t fight for (former head coach) Hue Jackson to keep his job,” Davis said. “Well, we have five games to go. Who on this team wants me to fight for them to keep their job? Who among the players and coaches really wants to be here? Who wants me to fight to keep them here?”
December 28th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
THE MORE THINGS CHANGE TH MORE THEY STAY THE SAME
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl–black-offensive-assistants-finding-roadblocks-to-becoming-nfl-head-coaches-054103279.html
December 28th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
It all makes sense. They don’t want to throw the game to get a better draft pick. They’ve seen the Chargers playing like crap and are afraid that they could actually beat them. The fans want to see Pryor, so here’s the perfect storm to increase the chances for a loss.
Pryor’s line:
About 25ish snaps
3-10 passing, with the longest about 6 yards in the air to Goodson who then runs another 10 or so. At least 2 of the passes land in Chargers hands. He’ll run about 4 or 5 times, breaking one for 20ish yards. Based on the play alone, this blog will then explode and talk about him as the savior and the most exciting thing since Bo Jackson donned Silver and Black.
And then he’ll get either traded, cut or forced to change position before the start of 2013 at which point all the same people that thought JC was the second coming of Lamonica will talk about how the coaching staff completely messed this up.
December 28th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
i remember when quack was all over knapps nuts…
December 28th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
Say goodbye to the tranny and his goofy zoneCOCKING scheme.Cant wait.
December 28th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
539.Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
i remember when quack was all over knapps nuts…
Yup and by week 2 he was backtracking it all.Typical.
December 28th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
DA and knapp the liars getting their hand forced by Mr. Davis….about time
December 28th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
I love Greg Knapp, he might possibly the best OC in the NFL today. Should have been a HC years ago.
December 28th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
_is_theraiders Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
yahoo is saying mark and reggie already looking for DAs replacement…
Danus allen doesnt have an inch of raider in his body except when mcclain bned him!
Link> Cant find it
December 28th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Hey even I supported Knapp until the team kept playing Krappy for 12 weeks.
December 28th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
506.zopi Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Interesting “probable” list for replacing the fired coaches in the yahoo article.
Out of all those replacements named in Cole’s article, the only one with potential is Jay Gruden, not John Chokey.
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Chokey?
Gruden was a very good coach.
He is one of the most sought after coahing prospects out there.
Gimme a break.
December 28th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
544.jesusraiderjim Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
_is_theraiders Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
yahoo is saying mark and reggie already looking for DAs replacement…
Danus allen doesnt have an inch of raider in his body except when mcclain bned him!
Link> Cant find it
==================================================== Cant wait to rub that in some noses around here.It will be a TOLD YOU SO TOLD YOU SO TOLD YOU SO offseason! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOA..
December 28th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
Denise Allen you mean? lol
December 28th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
I wonder what will happen if Pryor drives down the field for 4 TD’s? This blog will have an episode worth popcorn.
December 28th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
As much as I’m hoping they fire DA and his staff as quickly as possible, I highly doubt it. I just don’t see it happening. I feel that they think continuity is gonna help. But these coaches don’t bring any hope for the future and like I said think they need to leave before they hurt the franchise even more but unlikely. If possible they should fire and arrest them and their families and torture them forever.
December 28th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
275.Just Fire Baby Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
Mark Davis is a fellow Chico State alum.
If WE know anything up there, it is bad coke.
Over/under on lines sent to Nostraulia by Mark Davis:
1,349
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277.Priesttj12 Says:
December 28th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
A year from now, I guarantee you that RGIII, Cam and Kapernick will be talking about Pryor, how he’s the measuring stick. Everyone who has seen him play know he’s special, and TP will make believers out of all of you fools who doubted.
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Wait JFB,
Who did the lines at Chico? Mark Davis or Priestt
December 28th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Good luck to young TP. You absolutely remind me of the “Old Raider Players”, who were told by the rest of the NFL, “you’re to old, over the hill, or not good enough”. However, when they arrived in Raiderland, many of them became Pro-Bowlers, Super Bowl Winners, and excellent RAIDER Football players. I hope with your hard work and apparent “team first ethic”, (rather than a spoiled brat, ala QB Leinhart me first attitude) that you have an absolute barnstormer against the chargers. Then, maybe you can back up CP next year, and who knows from there on out?
December 28th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
549. If TP drives down the field for 4 TD’S and a win, I can guarantee there won’t be a sober RAIDERFAN on Sunday night!
December 28th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
Keep DA, DA needs to fire Knapp, bring in another wco OC, if he wants to just fire Knapp.
December 28th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
Hope ur not lying and saying I was liking knapp. Lies lies and more lies.
December 28th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
We all HOPE Pryor does well. But it’s unlikely.
December 28th, 2012 at 10:01 pm
Coach Dingleberry must have been forced to start Pryor. It’s clear he’s far too ignorant to have done so on his own.
Not much preparation as they wasted half the week giving reps to leinert, plus a pathetic play book. However I still hope and have confidence Pryor will have a decent game.
Shortly after this last game I hope to hear DA has been fired and clueless Reggie Mc has a new boss.
December 28th, 2012 at 10:09 pm
#524: Owen She-at was a worthless bum. He’s as slow as a tug boat, couldn’t block, and was overmatched. There’s a reason he’s no longer in the league. Spots McKenzie was the only fool dumb enough to give him a job. DA was the only coach on the planet stupid enough to give him the ball on 4th and 1.
December 28th, 2012 at 11:43 pm
Funny with Knapp stating that they had not got the Red Zone Plays down due to lack of getting therer means the whole team only knows 50% of Knapps Play Book! Matt Lienert came here with Knapp and has shown us what? that he knows more than 50% of Knapps Play Book?LOL!
December 29th, 2012 at 3:17 am
[...] lunch with Rod Woodson and Dana Stubblefield and asked them what they thought about more… Pryor to start against Chargers – ibabuzz.com 12/28/2012 Terrelle Pryor will start the regular-season finale against the San [...]
December 30th, 2012 at 8:16 am
Raider Prediction Board
Dedicated to Al Davis, Raider duct tape (boy does it hold) and the Coliseum rodents
Week 1: Alex7: Chargers 27 Raiders 20 (22/14)
Week 2: R8eray: Dolphins 20 Raiders 13 (35/13)
Week 3: Plunketthead Raiders 30 Steelers 27 (34/31) R
Week 4: Amysincharge: Denver 48-7 (37-6)
Week 5: Klas Tjorborn: Falcons 35 Raiders 20 (23/20)
Week 6: qodrn: Raiders 27 Jags 20 (26/23 OT) R
Week 7: raidermarty/VaRaiderNation Raiders 27 –
Chiefs 17 (26/16) R
Week 8: Bye Week.
Week 9: JONGRUDEN2012: Baltimore 47 Oakland 13
Week 10: GG: Saints 45 Raiders 17
Week 11: GG: 34-16 Panthers
Week 12: backstageatapupptshow: Cleveland 27 Oakland 13 – reverse winner – Albert B. Paine 20/17
Week 13: Cork: Denver 33 Raiders 13 (26/13)
Week 14: Plunketthead Raiders 25 Missouri 17 (15-0) R
Week 15: DKnight007 Says: Carolina 24 Raiders 10
qodrn: Raiders 20 Chargers 19
Relentless Says: Raiders-21 Chargers-17