Raiders inactives vs. Chargers
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, December 30th, 2012 at 12:07 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Players listed as inactives today vs. Chargers:
QB Carson Palmer, RB Jeremy Stewart, S Tyvon Branch, LB Rolando McClain, RG Mike Brisiel, DE Brandon Bair, WR Juron Criner.
Tony Bergstrom will start for Brisiel at right guard, Mike Mitchell for Tyvon Branch at strong safety.
A chance for Bergstrom to put something on film as a potential starter next season and Mitchell to market himself going into free agency. A mild surprise Criner is inactive, he’s been practicing lately.
Bigger surprise _ offensive lineman Lucas Nix is active for the first time after being inactive for 15 straight games.
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December 30th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
If Chuck Pagano was our HC right now…..they MIGHT have mentioned his cancer on the ESPN bottom line…..maybe.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
The entire Raiders team has been inactive all season…
December 30th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
Raider Prediction Board
Dedicated to Al Davis, Raider duct tape (boy does it hold) and the Coliseum rodents
Week 1: Alex7: Chargers 27 Raiders 20 (22/14)
Week 2: R8eray: Dolphins 20 Raiders 13 (35/13)
Week 3: Plunketthead Raiders 30 Steelers 27 (34/31) R
Week 4: Amysincharge: Denver 48-7 (37-6)
Week 5: Klas Tjorborn: Falcons 35 Raiders 20 (23/20)
Week 6: qodrn: Raiders 27 Jags 20 (26/23 OT) R
Week 7: raidermarty/VaRaiderNation Raiders 27 –
Chiefs 17 (26/16) R
Week 8: Bye Week.
Week 9: JONGRUDEN2012: Baltimore 47 Oakland 13
Week 10: GG: Saints 45 Raiders 17
Week 11: GG: 34-16 Panthers
Week 12: backstageatapupptshow: Cleveland 27 Oakland 13 – reverse winner – Albert B. Paine 20/17
Week 13: Cork: Denver 33 Raiders 13 (26/13)
Week 14: Plunketthead Raiders 25 Missouri 17 (15-0) R
Week 15: DKnight007 Says: Carolina 24 Raiders 10
GG Says: Raiders 30 Chargers 27
qodrn: Raiders 20 Chargers 19
Relentless Says: Raiders-21 Chargers-17
December 30th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
Fox switched from the Giants game to the Chicago game. This was in order to give the fans something interesting to watch.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
Alex7 Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
dr. robert doesn’t grasp the concept of outliers. To him, it’s either 100% or zero.
He’s arguing vs Sports Illustrated and statistics:
“History has shown that if you don’t have elite QB, you’re probably not winning the SB.”
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ur such a liar. as usual. everyone nows good qb’s are a big deal. ever said they weren’t. i said qb’s don’t win or lose games, teams do. i said palmer is a good qb. end of story. go tell another lie sullivan, u f@cktard.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Like MM34 in a limited, defined role like the last few weeks.
As our starting safety…….ehhhh not so much.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
today’s score: Chargers 27 Raiders 13
December 30th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Chargers 31 Raiders 9
December 30th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Hey DA fans….your losers just like he is!
Feel good about yourself!
December 30th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
did anyone else just see andrew luck make his kick returner take it to the house? what a qb! what a “winner”!
December 30th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Bruce Gradkowski is in the game, going to work on having more post Raider wins than Soup.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Back-n-Black Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
The entire Raiders team has been inactive all season…
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LOL! Quoted for truth!
December 30th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
the raiders will likely lose but not cuz of the defense. cuz of the poor run game and poor qb.
even though it pains me:
chargers 17
raiders 6
December 30th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
Dr. Robert cussing like a little 3rd grader.
Puff your chest out real big you big boy!
The Colts were NOT a great team when they won the SB. It’s the same team (minus Manning) that went 2-14 the next year.
Great QBs MAKE A TEAM GREAT
December 30th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
Seymour sure got well paid for half a season’s work!
December 30th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
The Titans have 35 points on 109 yards.
We were the opposite this year, 10 points on 415 yards.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Way to destroy the Raiders efficient running game from the previous two seasons DA and Knapp.
DA and Knapp are taking the Raiders to the Super Bowl in two years right? LOL
Suuuuurrree……
December 30th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
dr_robert Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
the raiders will likely lose but not cuz of the defense. cuz of the poor run game and poor qb.
even though it pains me:
chargers 17
raiders 6
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What? Another four quarters with ZERO touchdowns? Will that be some kind of record?
December 30th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Jay Glazer said Major OFFENSIVE COACHING CHANGES coming as early as tonight!
Said Dennis Allen seems safe for now but you never know what Mark Davis will do.
Also Im hearing through an insider on Preimium that DA will be safe UNLESS JON GRUDEN wants the job. Yep Jon Grudens name is still out there. Bottom line if Jon Gruden really wanted th RAider job.. he will be HC next year
December 30th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Alex7 Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
Dr. Robert cussing like a little 3rd grader.
Puff your chest out real big you big boy!
The Colts were NOT a great team when they won the SB. It’s the same team (minus Manning) that went 2-14 the next year.
Great QBs MAKE A TEAM GREAT
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lol! total moron.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
303Raider Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Colts play with heart, wish we would play like that.
We will see who has heart today. I bet TP6 plays with heart.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
more like great teams make great qb’s
December 30th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
I can’t imagine Gruden would pass up some of the better offers to come join this train wreck.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
The Bears o-line makes ours look like all-pros.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Hey DA and Knapp lovers.
Why did your whacked boys destroy the offense when it didn’t need to be?
Oh, because they “BELIEVE” in their system huh? The only reason that DA and Knapp have given.
How stupid…
December 30th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Also Im hearing through an insider on Preimium that DA will be safe UNLESS JON GRUDEN wants the job. Yep Jon Grudens name is still out there. Bottom line if Jon Gruden really wanted th RAider job.. he will be HC next year
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Would MD undermine his new GM by firing Allen and bringing in Gruden?
December 30th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Pryor will be around 50% completions with lots of check downs. More INTs than TDs. 2 fumbles.
He’s LIGHT-YEARS away from guys like Russell Wilson, Kaepernick, Luck, RGIII, and Andy Dalton despite being in the league longer than some of them.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Jay Glazer said Major OFFENSIVE COACHING CHANGES coming as early as tonight!
Said Dennis Allen seems safe for now but you never know what Mark Davis will do.
Also Im hearing through an insider on Preimium that DA will be safe UNLESS JON GRUDEN wants the job. Yep Jon Grudens name is still out there. Bottom line if Jon Gruden really wanted th RAider job.. he will be HC next year
^^^^^^^^
If DA loses bad today, then yes….he may yet get FIRED!
December 30th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
Good to hear that Knapp is as good as gone and they aren’t goin to fk around, schits goin down tonight fellers
December 30th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
Would MD undermine his new GM by firing Allen and bringing in Gruden?
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I really dont think Mark Davis cares at this point
December 30th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Jay Glazer said Major OFFENSIVE COACHING CHANGES coming as early as tonight!
Said Dennis Allen seems safe for now but you never know what Mark Davis will do.
Also Im hearing through an insider on Preimium that DA will be safe UNLESS JON GRUDEN wants the job. Yep Jon Grudens name is still out there. Bottom line if Jon Gruden really wanted th RAider job.. he will be HC next year
…….
I think some of it depends on today…
December 30th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
was steve bono or elvis grbac great? they won lots of games for the niners.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
I hope T.P. plays well enough so that we at least don’t waste a pick on a q.b. and try and develop T.P. I want big nasty D-line men and some O-line help.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Would MD undermine his new GM by firing Allen and bringing in Gruden?
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Hope so
December 30th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
If DA stays, then changing the offense is not the only thing needed.
A REAL special teams coach and a solid vet DC is needed also.
Ed Donatell the Niners secondary coach would be a good DC. Then Tarver can be demoted to LB coach.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
If DA loses bad today, then yes….he may yet get FIRED!
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If it comes down to today for this organization to make a determination, we are completely screwed forever.
Meaningless games are where you scout the players, not the staff.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
303Raider Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Colts play with heart, wish we would play like that.
We will see who has heart today. I bet TP6 plays with heart.
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Rudy had more heart than most athletes. How far did that take him?
Heart is important, but it doesn’t make you read a defense any better.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
losing today is pre-determined. there isn’t anyone in the raiders org that believes we will win, including reggie and mark davis.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
Robert, so the Ravens made Dilfer “great” after you just properly called him not great? You’re going in circles.
Andrew Luck is making a 2-14 team a playoff powerhouse.
RGIII took a top-7 draft team to the playoffs.
Peyton Manning took an 8-8 team to the top of the NFL.
90% same surrounding cast.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
repost:
25.Just Fire Baby Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 11:51 am
Dakota,
Still haven’t determined how I will delivery the blog FF championship Al Davis Cup to you.
Part of me wants to give it you gracefully, another part wants to go WWE and act like I am and than smash upside your head.
===============================================
Send it one piece at a time att: Pawn Shop South Dakota!
December 30th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
Back-n-Black Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Jay Glazer said Major OFFENSIVE COACHING CHANGES coming as early as tonight!
Said Dennis Allen seems safe for now but you never know what Mark Davis will do.
Also Im hearing through an insider on Preimium that DA will be safe UNLESS JON GRUDEN wants the job. Yep Jon Grudens name is still out there. Bottom line if Jon Gruden really wanted th RAider job.. he will be HC next year
…….
I think some of it depends on today…
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I hope a meaninngless game against a Chargers team that quit on its coach 12 months ago doesn’t save DA’s azz.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
this is game is 100% about seeing if pryor can even be considered a project.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
You also HAVE to be able to rush the passer to win as well.
Another reason w suck….
Andrew luck took a 2 win team, inspired them with great leadership and played well when his team needed it, see all the 4th Qtr comebacks.
Dude is really good, soon will be great.
Great teams all have great QB’s.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!!!
December 30th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
DKnight007 Says:
DA and Knapp are taking the Raiders to the Super Bowl in two years right? LOL
Suuuuurrree……
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Who said that? I don’t remember anyone saying that.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
You mean Sonny Bono and Elvis Presley right?
December 30th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
alex7 Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
Dr. Robert cussing like a little 3rd grader.
Puff your chest out real big you big boy!
The Colts were NOT a great team when they won the SB. It’s the same team (minus Manning) that went 2-14 the next year.
Great QBs MAKE A TEAM GREAT
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Yeah, 100% the same team as last season. Oh, except for the fact that 4/5ths of the OL are either new or guys changed to more appropriate positions.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Alex7 Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Pryor will be around 50% completions with lots of check downs. More INTs than TDs. 2 fumbles.
He’s LIGHT-YEARS away from guys like Russell Wilson, Kaepernick, Luck, RGIII, and Andy Dalton despite being in the league longer than some of them.
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You are talking out of your ASS. TP is a ? We will see.
There was a big debate back in 2010 who will be better Pryor vs Newton in the NFL. We will see.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
LondonAl Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Also Im hearing through an insider on Preimium that DA will be safe UNLESS JON GRUDEN wants the job. Yep Jon Grudens name is still out there. Bottom line if Jon Gruden really wanted th RAider job.. he will be HC next year
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Would MD undermine his new GM by firing Allen and bringing in Gruden?
^^^^^^^^^
Sure why not?
Gruden is an immediate upgrade over DA and his crappy staff.
Gruden has a better chance of turning things around here ahead of DA, who is just a waste of time.
Season ticket sales and merchandising and marketing would shoot through the roof with the return of Chuckie Gruden also!
It’s simply and great football AND great business decision to bring Gruden back!
December 30th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
Big Pep
the Kansas City Chiefs have spent the last few years drafting O-line and D-line.
Tyson Jackson, Glenn Dorsey, Tamba Hali, Branden Albert, Dontari Poe.
But they’re terrible because they don’t have a QB. It’s a QB league.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
If the Raiders get blown out again today. Will Dennis Allen get fired?
Please?
December 30th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
HEre’s a thought…as far fetch as it might be.
What if Gruden told Mark he wanted to see PRyor play before making a decision to come here. To see if he was worth developing, and to see if Jon would think he could use him. So Mark went to Reggie, who went to DA and told him to play Pryor.
OH the conspiracies!
December 30th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Well I want us to beat the Chargers and ram the ball down their throats. Call me old fashioned but it hurts to lose to a divisional rival.
Go Raiders!
December 30th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Also Im hearing through an insider on Preimium that DA will be safe UNLESS JON GRUDEN wants the job.
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Premium is just chumps who pay to hear bullsh!t rumors. Kind of like visiting a psychic or something. You’re paying good money to hear someone tell you something you want to hear, only to be disappointed later.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
If Gruden is our HC, we might get Jason Campbell back….and Bruce Garbagekowski…..and Kerry Collins….and Tui…..
December 30th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Alex7 Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
Robert, so the Ravens made Dilfer “great” after you just properly called him not great? You’re going in circles.
Andrew Luck is making a 2-14 team a playoff powerhouse.
RGIII took a top-7 draft team to the playoffs.
Peyton Manning took an 8-8 team to the top of the NFL.
90% same surrounding cast.
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ur a good liar, i’ll give u that. but as u know, i blow u away every time.
i never called dilfer great. i said great teams make great qb’s. if i have to spell it our for u like a schoolgirl, a qb with good skills excels with a good team, coaches, wr’s, etc. a good qb on a bad team ends up doing worse than his skills might dictate. this is elementary stuff.
manning is great. took a playoff winning team and made them even better.
griffin is really good. made year 3 of shanahan click.
luck is a good qb prospect having an entirely over-hyped season, based on “chuckstrong” and some “luck”. he is the 29th rated qb in the league with 27 turnovers. they are WAY overrated.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
lol RaidO
there was ZERO debate about Cam vs Pryor.
One was a #1 overall pick after setting NCAA pass efficiency records.
The other was a 3rd round pick considered a reach by most who had him pegged as a TIGHT END project.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
EMRaiders Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
HEre’s a thought…as far fetch as it might be.
What if Gruden told Mark he wanted to see PRyor play before making a decision to come here. To see if he was worth developing, and to see if Jon would think he could use him. So Mark went to Reggie, who went to DA and told him to play Pryor.
OH the conspiracies!
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DA’s quick change of “wording” about Pryor was fast= One day. DA was all over the place.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
TP’s biggest problems today will be:
1) his OC sucks
2) his O-Line blows
3) our running game is atrocious
4) our WR’s are mediocre
Oh and his defense blows too..
December 30th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Cam was the #1 overall pick, TP was bailed out from falling further than the 3rd round by a crazy old man.
I think we will see today why TP, even with all his athleticism, why he was passed over multiple times by all the teams.
Intermediate to deep throws are a major, major issue for him.
Hope not, but that’s my hunch.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
Panthers rookie backer just ran down sproles
He’s gonna be a stud
Wait he is a stud
He’s gonna be Elite!!!
December 30th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
Alex7 Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
lol RaidO
there was ZERO debate about Cam vs Pryor.
One was a #1 overall pick after setting NCAA pass efficiency records.
The other was a 3rd round pick considered a reach by most who had him pegged as a TIGHT END project.
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You are clueless man. Just stop. Google!!
December 30th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
RaidingTexas Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
DKnight007 Says:
DA and Knapp are taking the Raiders to the Super Bowl in two years right? LOL
Suuuuurrree……
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Who said that? I don’t remember anyone saying that.
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Actually a few people were sayin similar schit, there was more than a few Knapp nuthuggers in here and it took them a long time to admit the guy just sucks, heck maybe a few still think he is good, Dr? JFB?
December 30th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
I hear you Alex7, but they do have everything in place and are now ready to draft a signal caller. they finally decided that whoever is there now is not the answer. niners did the same thing, drafted d-players and o-line for years and stayed with a.smith, till just a few games ago.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
303Raider Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
You also HAVE to be able to rush the passer to win as well.
Another reason w suck….
Andrew luck took a 2 win team, inspired them with great leadership and played well when his team needed it, see all the 4th Qtr comebacks.
Dude is really good, soon will be great.
Great teams all have great QB’s.
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luck hasn’t inspired the team, chuckstrong has.
if luck was so good this season, why aren’t they ahead in the 4th quarter more often?
great teams USUALLY have great qb’s, but great qb’s don’t make great teams all by themselves.
only housewives and (dumb) kids believe that.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Robert
you fail to look deeper into stats.
6 of Luck’s INTs came when he threw the ball up 50+ times in a game.
Another 3 picks came in his 1st NFL game.
Outside of those three OUTLIERS (throwing 50+ is absurd and a sign that you’re catching up vs Dime D’s)
he’s thrown a reasonable 9 INTs.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Hailing in San Diego. LOL
December 30th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
CDERaider Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
If the Raiders get blown out again today. Will Dennis Allen get fired?
Please?
^^^^^^^^
Yeah and if DA gets blown out today, the DA lovers will just put the blame on TP.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
303Raider Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
TP’s biggest problems today will be:
1) his OC sucks
2) his O-Line blows
3) our running game is atrocious
4) our WR’s are mediocre
Oh and his defense blows too..
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plus, he’s not a very good qb.
aren’t those the same things that palmer had to deal with?
u palmer-bashers/pryor nuts are hilarious.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
TP will have big plays with his feet as our O-Line sucks and he will be running for his life..
We have to have a 200 yard plus rushing yards as team to have a shot today.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
In the Raiders first 3 years of existence, they went through 3 head coaches. Then Valley & McGah hired Al and started the turnaround…Moral of the story?
“I’d rather be right than consistent” Al Davis
Fire Denise!
December 30th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
Pep
I agree with you that it doesn’t matter what other positions you’re strong at
without a QB you’re nothing
December 30th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
My main issue with Carson is that he turns the ball over in crucial moments. I’ve watched him now for 24 games and that is concerning.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
You get your first head-coaching job. You hire the wrong OC and stand behind him the entire season while he neuters one of the league’s best running games with his stubborn, weak-ass zbs scheme. You deserve to be fired.
Go get Gruden!
December 30th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
Alex7 Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Robert
you fail to look deeper into stats.
6 of Luck’s INTs came when he threw the ball up 50+ times in a game.
Another 3 picks came in his 1st NFL game.
Outside of those three OUTLIERS (throwing 50+ is absurd and a sign that you’re catching up vs Dime D’s)
he’s thrown a reasonable 9 INTs.
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don’t fu@k with me jackazz. i’ll tear u up. u can play around with some of these idiots, but i’ll make u look a fool.
i said luck is a good qb. but he’s not been amazing this year. he’s WAY overhyped. it’s a good story.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
Palmer is 16th-ranked QB this season
ahead of Eli Manning, Stafford, Cutler, and Freeman.
Pryor gets no excuses with the same team and 1.5 years in the NFL.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
Carson also has to restructure his salary. No one in The NFL will pay him that mount of money.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
I think we will see today why TP, even with all his athleticism, why he was passed over multiple times by all the teams.
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C’MON MAN, He was a 3rd round pick in the supplemental draft, players don’t usually get drafted as high as they would in the reg draft, multiple times lol, there were rumors that we had to draft him when we did because there was no way he would be there by the next time we picked
December 30th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
Sitting in a hailstorm in qualcomm parking lot.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
FOX’s Jay Glazer reports the Raiders are expected to make a “bunch of changes” to their offensive coaching staff as early as Sunday evening.
Glazer believes underwhelming first-year coach Dennis Allen is safe, but implied behind-the-times OC Greg Knapp is as good as gone. Knapp worked extremely hard to earn his walking papers this season, routinely failing to put his players in the best position to succeed. That was embodied by Darren McFadden, who found himself trapped in a zone-blocking scheme that played to his weaknesses and sapped his strengths. Knapp is probably lucky he wasn’t let go mid-season. Dec 30 – 12:16 PM
….
God is merciful and has heard our prayers!
December 30th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
303Raider Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
My main issue with Carson is that he turns the ball over in crucial moments. I’ve watched him now for 24 games and that is concerning.
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well, maybe it might have something to do with poor receivers, poor play-calling, poor line play, forcing it cuz he knows it’s all on him, etc.
bottom line: anyone here that doesn’t know a good qb when they see one is football-ignorant.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
Robert
Payton Manning set an NFL INT record his rookie year, and his team sucked.
What RGIII, Wilson, and Luck are doing as rookies is AMAZING, not over-hyped.
Rookies don’t take 2-14 teams to the playoffs while throwing more TDs than INTs. They just rarely do.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
LondonAl Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Also Im hearing through an insider on Preimium that DA will be safe UNLESS JON GRUDEN wants the job. Yep Jon Grudens name is still out there. Bottom line if Jon Gruden really wanted th RAider job.. he will be HC next year
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Would MD undermine his new GM by firing Allen and bringing in Gruden?
^^^^^^^^^
Sure why not?
Gruden is an immediate upgrade over DA and his crappy staff.
Gruden has a better chance of turning things around here ahead of DA, who is just a waste of time.
Season ticket sales and merchandising and marketing would shoot through the roof with the return of Chuckie Gruden also!
It’s simply and great football AND great business decision to bring Gruden back!
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I agree…And I’m not the biggest Gruden fan.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
Until you can come up with a reasonable alternative to palmer in 2013, just stfu about him already.
if alex smith comes to mind, then you should go hang yourself.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
Alex7 Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
Palmer is 16th-ranked QB this season
ahead of Eli Manning, Stafford, Cutler, and Freeman.
Pryor gets no excuses with the same team and 1.5 years in the NFL.
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shutup. people will think we agree and i can’t have that.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
If The Raiders win this game, I’m going to get hammered drunk!
December 30th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
Back-n-Black Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
FOX’s Jay Glazer reports the Raiders are expected to make a “bunch of changes” to their offensive coaching staff as early as Sunday evening.
Glazer believes underwhelming first-year coach Dennis Allen is safe, but implied behind-the-times OC Greg Knapp is as good as gone. Knapp worked extremely hard to earn his walking papers this season, routinely failing to put his players in the best position to succeed. That was embodied by Darren McFadden, who found himself trapped in a zone-blocking scheme that played to his weaknesses and sapped his strengths. Knapp is probably lucky he wasn’t let go mid-season. Dec 30 – 12:16 PM
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God is merciful and has heard our prayers!
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Where was this god last january?
December 30th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
Andrew Luck is a great QB. Is anyone watching him tear up the Texans?
December 30th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
Realtru
Josh Gordon, rookie WR in Cleveland and All-Rookie team member, was drafted as a HIGH 2nd round pick.
If you’re good, you’re drafted no matter what draft you’re in.
Pryor was a tight end project for most teams.
Pryor was seen as a lesser prospect than Brandon Weeden lol.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
Surf advisor shows a clear band behind this storm. Stay tuned.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
Bringing back Sharpie just perpetuates a losers mentality.
Players don’t respect him, opposing coaches don’t respect him.
He’ll be gone next year after another disaster of a season.
And we’ll still owe him $8 million.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
Aex7,
you make a good point. I for one am tired of pretty much every player we have on this squad plus our coaches at this point. just saying that c.p. and t.p. may be ok till we get a bit better at other positions.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
Again, expectations for Pryor should not be very high. What we all should be looking for is how far along he has come. We have nothing to compare to besides his college days. So this game is really more like a rehearsal for him than anything else.
And one game should not dictate how he will play in the future. Regardless if he plays balls out or if he plays like his balls were chopped off.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
Alex7 Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
Robert
Payton Manning set an NFL INT record his rookie year, and his team sucked.
What RGIII, Wilson, and Luck are doing as rookies is AMAZING, not over-hyped.
Rookies don’t take 2-14 teams to the playoffs while throwing more TDs than INTs. They just rarely do.
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i SAID luck is a good qb. but he hasn’t played as well as griffin or wilson. he might be better in the long run than any of them.
luck has done some good things. he’s a talent. but HIS play has been over-hyped. his team’s success has much more to do with “chuckstrong”.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
Dakota Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
Back-n-Black Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
FOX’s Jay Glazer reports the Raiders are expected to make a “bunch of changes” to their offensive coaching staff as early as Sunday evening.
Glazer believes underwhelming first-year coach Dennis Allen is safe, but implied behind-the-times OC Greg Knapp is as good as gone. Knapp worked extremely hard to earn his walking papers this season, routinely failing to put his players in the best position to succeed. That was embodied by Darren McFadden, who found himself trapped in a zone-blocking scheme that played to his weaknesses and sapped his strengths. Knapp is probably lucky he wasn’t let go mid-season. Dec 30 – 12:16 PM
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God is merciful and has heard our prayers!
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Where was this god last january?
….
lol… I don’t know. I can’t keep up with Him. He has his own secretary.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
Alexis
Gordon would of went in the 1st round in the reg draft so you made my point thanks
December 30th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
303Raider Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
TP’s biggest problems today will be:
1) his OC sucks
2) his O-Line blows
3) our running game is atrocious
4) our WR’s are mediocre
Oh and his defense blows too..
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And the preemptive excuses continue …
Leinhart will be playing with exactly the same set of contraints. I have and continue to assert that he will outplay Pryor today given a roughly equal number of snaps. That said, if Pryor sucks out of the gate as I expect, Leinhart will end up getting more of them by game’s end, but we’ll see.
Anyway, I’m going on the line and saying that if Pryor does actually outplay Leinhart today, with the same set of contraints, then I’ll admit here that he has more potential than I currently think (which is zero) to play QB in the NFL and will state that he should be on the Raiders roster next season.
I asked all of the TP supporters to merely state that if he fails to outplay Leinhart, they will admit here that maybe he is not really that good and the team should consider moving on. Exactly one poster, GG, had the balls to take that stance. Everyone else ducked, dodged and danced around putting their rep on the line. Instead, we just get a bunch more excuses in advance.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
Crazycloud Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
You get your first head-coaching job. You hire the wrong OC and stand behind him the entire season while he neuters one of the league’s best running games with his stubborn, weak-ass zbs scheme. You deserve to be fired.
Go get Gruden!
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Holla!
December 30th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
Alex Smith:
- was completing 70% of his passes
- had a 13-5 TD to INT ratio
- had a 6-2 record
- was THIRD in QB rating
and got benched. That’s something we’ll probably never again see.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Hopefully the tarp is down, its wet out here.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
303Raider Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
Andrew Luck is a great QB. Is anyone watching him tear up the Texans?
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see. this is exactly what i’m talking about.
luck is currently 13-27 (under 50%) 185 yards (including a 70 yard catch and run) and 2tds.
the colts also have 4 sacks.
a TEAM win if it happens.
he is NOT “tearing them up”. he is playing well and the team is doing well.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
How can you really evaluate TP6 after one game where all year he has been the 3rd QB and has rarely worked with the 1st team?
He needs a lot of reps, games, etc. under his belt before anyone could say whether or not he will make it in the NFL.
But, if he does play well today, the yearning for more will only get louder!
December 30th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
That looks like an ACL/MCL thing with Cam.
Can’t bump refs, bad juju
December 30th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
LMAO!…Texans are gonna get knocked out next weekend…and this is the team we are trying to emulate.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
realtrue
so we’ll agree Gordon dropped, what, half of a round?
Meaning Pryor is a low 2nd round QB talent (at best, since everyone agreed it was a reach).
If you’re a low 2nd-round QB talent, you’re not seen as a legit NFL QB (they almost always get bumped up to the 1st round even if they’re fring prospects): see Locker, Tebow, Weeden, Tannenhill, Sanchez
December 30th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
alex7 Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
Alex Smith:
- was completing 70% of his passes
– had a 13-5 TD to INT ratio
– had a 6-2 record
– was THIRD in QB rating
and got benched. That’s something we’ll probably never again see.
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Captain Comeback knew Captain Checkdown was taking them nowhere.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Zymurge Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
303Raider Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
TP’s biggest problems today will be:
1) his OC sucks
2) his O-Line blows
3) our running game is atrocious
4) our WR’s are mediocre
Oh and his defense blows too..
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And the preemptive excuses continue …
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pretty laughable isn’t it?
December 30th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Timely throws when they matter , 4th Qtr comebacks are way more indicative of a great QB over Carson Palmers mediocre stats when we are getting blow out.
Andrew Luck is on his way to greatness.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
303Raider Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
How can you really evaluate TP6 after one game where all year he has been the 3rd QB and has rarely worked with the 1st team?
He needs a lot of reps, games, etc. under his belt before anyone could say whether or not he will make it in the NFL.
But, if he does play well today, the yearning for more will only get louder!
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if pryor sucks, he sucks. period.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
303
the same way we evaluated RGIII, Russell Wilson, Luck, and others after MUCH LESS than a YEAR AND A HALF of NFL practices.
95% of the time, if you have it, you show it within a month in the NFL whether it’s pre-season, practices, or games.
It’s been almost 2 years for Pryor. No excuses.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Ouch…..Cam is injured bad.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
At least put Saunders back as OC for 2013. Go back to last year’s offense something that fits the personnel.
Unless Saunders refuses to work for Kindergarten Koach – any OC worth his salt probably won’t.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
C’MON MAN, He was a 3rd round pick in the supplemental draft, players don’t usually get drafted as high as they would in the reg draft,
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Pryor is the first QB to go through the sup draft and not be taken with a first rounder.
Every other QB, from Dave Wilson to Steve Walsh to Tim Rosenbaugh to Dave Brown, were taken with a 1st round pick.
Sup draft means nothing.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
Dakota
I don’t disagree with the Smith benching, but you don’t get 13 TDs in 8 games and a #3 overall rating by doing Jason-Campbell check-downs all the time.
I think Alex Smith fits in Philly next year as a safe guy to get the ball in the hands of play-makers.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
303Raider Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Timely throws when they matter , 4th Qtr comebacks are way more indicative of a great QB over Carson Palmers mediocre stats when we are getting blow out.
Andrew Luck is on his way to greatness.
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4th quarter comebacks? if a qb is so great, why the need for a comeback?
that stuff makes great stories for housewives and dumb kids. which are u?
December 30th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
Aaron Wilson@RavensInsider
Vontaze Burfict up to 16 tackles
Retweeted by Steve Corkran
December 30th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
CDERaider Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
At least put Saunders back as OC for 2013. Go back to last year’s offense something that fits the personnel.
Unless Saunders refuses to work for Kindergarten Koach – any OC worth his salt probably won’t.
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I heard he refused the OC job…That wouldn’t surprise me since Wiz got out of Dodge once he saw these idiots.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
Well maybe not for Cam, amazing what youth can do for you.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
Hey Alex, what gives with your anti-Pryor?
Granted he hasn’t shown much but at least allow him to prove himself worthy or not.
He may have been in the NFL longer than those you mention but doing what? Suspended at the beginning of the season. Then to make matters worst, Oakland had no QB coach. The supposedly QB coach was too busy with his mani/pedi and wouldn’t give him nor Carson the time of day. Carson said he had little access to Hue-bris.
Probably, Carson was the only one to show him the ropes, how to film study, etc. Carson was his mentor and coach.
Its all about quality time. KK’s infamous saying D…
alex7 Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Pryor will be around 50% completions with lots of check downs. More INTs than TDs. 2 fumbles.
He’s LIGHT-YEARS away from guys like Russell Wilson, Kaepernick, Luck, RGIII, and Andy Dalton despite being in the league longer than some of them.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
I don’t understand how people are supposed to tackle anymore. Is this flag football?
December 30th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
Cam back up=stud.
I was crying just seeing the replay.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
The_Civilian_James_Trapp
Doesn’t surprise me – he probably can’t wait to get out of this mess..
December 30th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
alex7 Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
Palmer is 16th-ranked QB this season
ahead of Eli Manning, Stafford, Cutler, and Freeman.
Pryor gets no excuses with the same team and 1.5 years in the NFL.
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Yeah, the hypocrisy here is hilarious at times.
We here from the TP supporters that Palmer sucks, his stats are all garbage time, he doesn’t win games by himself and he’s the problem. It’s all on the QB.
Then when Pryor gets his shot all the excuses come out — before he’s even failed — to talk about how the team, the system, Knapp, DA, Reggie, and the white supremacists are all conspiring to hold him back.
Then we get the further spin that even if he does fail, it doesn’t mean anything in this game. But if he does even mediocre, then he is clearly the future. Gee, haven’t already made up your minds, have you? Please explain how anything that shows up in this game could change your mind about Pryor based on that combination?
December 30th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
Sloppy day here in SD. Just finished raining again. Dmac will slip about 7 times today.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
Alex7 Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
303
the same way we evaluated RGIII, Russell Wilson, Luck, and others after MUCH LESS than a YEAR AND A HALF of NFL practices.
95% of the time, if you have it, you show it within a month in the NFL whether it’s pre-season, practices, or games.
It’s been almost 2 years for Pryor. No excuses.
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So you expect him to have what type of game today.
All I’m saying is its not like the HC’s have put this team together for him and our supporting cast is not top tier to say the least.
I’m managing my expectations with TP6 today. If he plays just awful then sure. We all know he will make mistakes but I’m looking for some Super Hero plays and some good throws in the pocket.
Our defense and running game are so bad that TP could play great and we might still lose.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Rarely in sports, do you see a team so talented jump out to a big lead in the standings and just flop with no emotion like what the Texans, without their being a schism in the locker room.
I am guessing something is going on, what, who knows.
They look like the Yankees right now. Falling apart, and yet not too concerned about it.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Yeah remember different coaches different offense of coordinators this is the deep functional Raiders organization
December 30th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Looks like AD and God have straightened out there differences. The rain is letting up and the sun is now shining on a new era in Raider football.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Al Saunders is pushing 70, hell he was the HC of the replacement players 30 years ago.
He seems to have gladly took a replay consultating gig.
Highly doubt he wants to stand on the sidelines on gameday and call plays anymore.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Aphid, everyone:
Pryor’s weaknesses SINCE HIGH SCHOOL:
- eyes see pass-rushers, don’t stay downfield under pressure
- bad footwork in the pocket
- inability to read a D
- inaccurate
ALL WE HAVE TO SEE is if he’s STILL struggling with the same thing 6 years in a row.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Rarely in sports, do you see a team so talented jump out to a big lead in the standings and just flop with no emotion like what the Texans, without their being a schism in the locker room.
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Bears too. And Forte almost just blew their slim playoff hopes.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
Our defense did a much better job against Kim’s team.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
Plunketthead Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 6:29 am
Raiders 23
Teram Lethargy 20
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I did not know until just now that I won the contest for a second time this year.
Lets go for three
Great job again this year Qodrn!!!!!
I pray your health is better
December 30th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Pryor is the first QB to go through the sup draft and not be taken with a first rounder.
Every other QB, from Dave Wilson to Steve Walsh to Tim Rosenbaugh to Dave Brown, were taken with a 1st round pick.
Sup draft means nothing.
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Im not sayin he was a great QB prospect at all, but you made it sound like he was taken in the 7th round or somethin and teams passed on him “multiple Times” Im just sayin he was taken in the 3rd and wouldn’t of ben there for our next pick because of his athletic ability alone, keep in mind that wasn’t a normal sup draft either, very late in training camp and he couldn’t practice with the team for 5 games, so every team knew that it was more than likely goin to be aamost a wasted year for him
December 30th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
if NCAA statistics for QBs are to be trusted, Pryor will:
- be around 50% completions with lots of check downs.
- throw more INTs than TDs.
- have a fumble
This would be par for Pryor’s HS and OSU career vs legit teams.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
morilla Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
Sloppy day here in SD. Just finished raining again. Dmac will slip about 7 times today.
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Imagine how many times he slips after leaving the locker room?
December 30th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
Kubiak and knapp look a lot alike.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
Houston looks like they are going. 1 and done in the playoffs.
Donkeys got the #1 seed. My nightmares are becoming real.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
Alex7 Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Aphid, everyone:
Pryor’s weaknesses SINCE HIGH SCHOOL:
- eyes see pass-rushers, don’t stay downfield under pressure
- bad footwork in the pocket
- inability to read a D
- inaccurate
ALL WE HAVE TO SEE is if he’s STILL struggling with the same thing 6 years in a row.
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Pryor
Passing Efficiency Rating= 2010 Big Ten 157.9 (3rd)
December 30th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
i like pryor. i’m rooting for him. but i also now what’s likely.
it’s football boys. if the kid looks like qb, then it doesn’t matter what the results are.
but if he looks awful, then it is what it is.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Rarely in sports, do you see a team so talented jump out to a big lead in the standings and just flop with no emotion like what the Texans, without their being a schism in the locker room.
I am guessing something is going on, what, who knows.
They look like the Yankees right now. Falling apart, and yet not too concerned about it.
(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
And a two game winner from last year with a rookie qb is stomping a mudhole and pissing in their boots
The Boots will be lucky to win a playoff game. hate to say it but Peyton looks to be headed to a SB
December 30th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
alex–quit acting like u know what pryor did in high school, or that u know why he was bad at passing at times in college. ur sounding like missdick. u don’t know any of that.
December 30th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
41 pts for the Panthers????
How did we stop this train last week?
December 30th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
Take that score back. Theres only three entrants and they are all the same
Raiders 35
injuns 20
December 30th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
Jhill
Tarvers D coming together?
That run D seems to be improving
December 30th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
J Hill Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
41 pts for the Panthers????
How did we stop this train last week?
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defense has improved ever since:
mcclain’s removal
carter’s getting healthy
adams and ross entered the scene
December 30th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
chuck strong!
December 30th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Dr_robert Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
alex–quit acting like u know what pryor did in high school, or that u know why he was bad at passing at times in college. ur sounding like missdick. u don’t know any of that.
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Alex has no clue what he is talking about. Almost trolling
December 30th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
303Raider Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
[snip]
I’m managing my expectations with TP6 today. If he plays just awful then sure. We all know he will make mistakes but I’m looking for some Super Hero plays and some good throws in the pocket.
Our defense and running game are so bad that TP could play great and we might still lose.
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How come when Palmer does exactly what you just described: playing well with no defense or running game, it’s his fault that they team doesn’t win?
December 30th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
Bring Back Chucky!!! Getter Done Mark!
December 30th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
Davis let go sooooo many quality coordinators / coaches here:
Pagano, Harbaugh, Fox, Brian Schneider, Shanahan, Sarkisian,
could never appreciate coaching talent and give them the promotions/$ that would have kept them around
December 30th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
even with beech, missdick, fangs, etc, sullivan/alex is still the most reviled/idiotic poster ever.
December 30th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Recapping my QBs predictions (get them in now boys and let’s see who was right)
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Assuming 50ish % of the snaps we’ll see:
Pryor:
– 5-12 passing (around 40-45%), 50-60 yards, 2 INTs
– 5-7 runs for maybe 50-60 yards, most of which will be on a single play.
– One TD scored either running or passing.
– About the same odds as a TD for one fumble on either a run or in waiting too long trying to prove he’s a pocket pass early and getting drilled.
– At least 1 each delay of game, time out wasted as the clock winds down (probably called by the coach from the sideline), several cadence related false starts, and probably zero read based adjustments of the alignment pre-snap
Leinhart:
– 9-14 passing, 115 yards, 1 INT, 1 TD
– 1 run for 2 yards
- A couple nice audibles that set up big running plays on draws
– No credit
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December 30th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Dam it!!!…Philly is 4-12 now too…..
December 30th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
RaidO
you, yes YOU
can also quickly look up Pryor’s scouting report coming out of HIGH SCHOOL,
along with his statistics vs legit D’s while at OSU and find the same things I did.
Just takes effort.
He’s always struggled with footwork, accuracy, and reading the D.
December 30th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Dr_robert Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
J Hill Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
41 pts for the Panthers????
How did we stop this train last week?
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defense has improved ever since:
mcclain’s removal
carter’s getting healthy
adams and ross entered the scene
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Since retard got suspended. We faced the following scoring ranked teams:
Cleveland 23rd
Denver 2nd(Fox took it easy on Denise so he will stay)
KC 32nd
Car 21st
I wouldn’t celebrate Denise’s alleged improvement
December 30th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
“We will see who has heart today. I bet TP6 plays with heart.”
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He will… And that heart plus his 7 Wonderlic will probably equal another game without a trip across the goal line….
December 30th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
so, i’ll say it one more time–i really would love to see pryor do well. i hope he does. i don’t think he will, but if he does, it will be awesome. i’ll try to have some of u guys’ optimism. i hope it’s not a long game.
December 30th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
BOKNOWS Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Dam it!!!…Philly is 4-12 now too…..
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must lose game.
December 30th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
J Hill Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
41 pts for the Panthers????
How did we stop this train last week?
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Well for one, the Saints have the worst defense in the NFL. But it does say something that the Raiders are one of only three teams to hold Carolina under 300 yards this season.
The Raiders defense has actually played pretty well at times this season. The offense just does it no favors by going 3-and-out all the time, leaving the defense on the field too much. That’s part of why the yards and points start to pile up.
If the Raiders can add another playmaker on the DL and a serious ballhawking LB, I think Tarver’s defense might be pretty good.
December 30th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Dr_robert Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
J Hill Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
41 pts for the Panthers????
How did we stop this train last week?
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defense has improved ever since:
mcclain’s removal
carter’s getting healthy
adams and ross entered the scene
=========
Since retard got suspended. We faced the following scoring ranked teams:
Cleveland 23rd
Denver 2nd(Fox took it easy on Denise so he will stay)
KC 32nd
Car 21st
I wouldn’t celebrate Denise’s alleged improvement
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true enuff, but they have looked better on defense. mainly cuz of those personnel changes.
December 30th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Zymurge, JFB, and myself are on the same page regarding Pryor’s terribleness.
We’re just realist here who actually google statistics to back up our posts instead of randomly stating what we THINK and FEEL (looking at Robert and others).
We’re dang-near the Inklings here.
December 30th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Lions and philly lost….we could drop from the third pick to #5 or 6.
December 30th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Alex7,
I’m no homer of Pryor but I get irritated when only one side is presented. It had to do with his time in the NFL. He was essentially out of football for the past 2 years, unless you can call it playing time.
If has is bad, then let’s look to pickup a project in the coming draft. If he is okay, then let’s get help elsewhere on the team because we need all the help we can get. This is all about getting the most out the draft to build a team.
December 30th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Just Lose Baby! Expedite the firings.
December 30th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Zymurge Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Recapping my QBs predictions (get them in now boys and let’s see who was right)
—–
Assuming 50ish % of the snaps we’ll see:
Pryor:
– 5-12 passing (around 40-45%), 50-60 yards, 2 INTs
– 5-7 runs for maybe 50-60 yards, most of which will be on a single play.
– One TD scored either running or passing.
– About the same odds as a TD for one fumble on either a run or in waiting too long trying to prove he’s a pocket pass early and getting drilled.
– At least 1 each delay of game, time out wasted as the clock winds down (probably called by the coach from the sideline), several cadence related false starts, and probably zero read based adjustments of the alignment pre-snap
Leinhart:
– 9-14 passing, 115 yards, 1 INT, 1 TD
– 1 run for 2 yards
- A couple nice audibles that set up big running plays on draws
– No credit
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i’ll say pryor does this:
8-17 95 yards 1 int
8 rushes 65 yards 1 td 1 fumble
December 30th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Dakota Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
BOKNOWS Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Dam it!!!…Philly is 4-12 now too…..
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must lose game.
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Just Lose Baby!
December 30th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Sky divers landing on the field
December 30th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
WITH WIN I THINK WE GET 6TH PICK IN 2013 SORRY ABOUT CAPS
December 30th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Aphid Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Alex7,
I’m no homer of Pryor but I get irritated when only one side is presented. It had to do with his time in the NFL. He was essentially out of football for the past 2 years, unless you can call it playing time.
If has is bad, then let’s look to pickup a project in the coming draft. If he is okay, then let’s get help elsewhere on the team because we need all the help we can get. This is all about getting the most out the draft to build a team.
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I’m rooting for him but have a feeling he is gone next year. I really don’t think his style of play is what this current org has in mind. That is unless someone from above ( Marc) pushes for that direction.
December 30th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
129.Just Fire Baby Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Al Saunders is pushing 70, hell he was the HC of the replacement players 30 years ago.
He seems to have gladly took a replay consultating gig.
Highly doubt he wants to stand on the sidelines on gameday and call plays anymore.
==================================================== Hey just fire,remember I said Houston would lose in the first round and you said that be interesting seeing they would have a first round buy? Others thought that was so funny too.Well My turn to laugh.3rd seed means no first round buy cheif.AAhaaaaaaaaaaaa. So when they get illiminated in the first round once again I’de be right and you be wrong! How are the rest of the zoneCOCKING teams looking today? Not very good. Zone scheme sucks.
December 30th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
Alex7 Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Zymurge, JFB, and myself are on the same page regarding Pryor’s terribleness.
We’re just realist here who actually google statistics to back up our posts instead of randomly stating what we THINK and FEEL (looking at Robert and others).
We’re dang-near the Inklings here.
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u never stop lying. u are ALWAYS anti-raiders.
i back up EVERYTHING with facts. u spin EVERYTHING.
ur an idiot. i’m a beloved “know-it-all”.
December 30th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
By the way, Pryor has one advantage that he won’t ever have again. There’s virtually no tape of him playing with the starting offense in a real game right now. The Chargers are going to be the first team to see what his actual package of plays are that he is capable of. They won’t have the advantage of studying what they do from each of the 3 or 4 formations he’s able to run and understanding what his options are on each.
There’s a reason that Cam came out with amazing numbers in his first couple of games and then tapered off. The same reason he started this season slow. Same is starting to show up for Kaep in SF. Gimmicky offenses are great to catch a team off guard, but this is the NFL. College level offenses don’t fly for long for a reason, because they don’t have the complexity to keep very technical NFL defenses off balance once they know what to expect.
If Pryor can’t succeed with this scenario (much like Cam did), then it’s only going to get much, much harder for him once teams have footage to scheme around.
December 30th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
lol
forgot Pryor scored a 7 on the wonderlic.
Explains his inability to read legit D’s at OSU and in NFL practices.
RGIII scored a 24, Newton a 21, Fitzpatrick in Buff a 40-something (allowed a 7th-round talent to start in the NFL, good for him).
December 30th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Ha ha in this horrible season this may be the biggest game of the season. Go TP!
December 30th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
I really dont like that its raining.. wish Pryor had his first start in fair conditions
December 30th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Zone scheme sucks,Man I’m tired of being right!
December 30th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
gonna be an interesting game. there is at least some chance this game could highlight anything from one of the most amazing “comes from out of nowhere” great talents to one of “the most embarrassingly bad qb’s ever”.
December 30th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Raiders 23
Bolts 20
December 30th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
I really dont like that its raining.. wish Pryor had his first start in fair conditions
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and pre-game excuse #43 just posted.
December 30th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
Justfire where ya at? Lets here the brilliant excuses.
December 30th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
Oakfshow Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Zone scheme sucks,Man I’m tired of being right!
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good thing it rarely happends
December 30th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
LETS GO PRYOR!! Tear it up son.. Get ur willie Beaman on!
Just run! Just win baby! Do it for Al ! Al’s last draft pick! Greatness of RAiders is in its future! Put on for your city! Run n Gun!
December 30th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Oakfshow Says:
Zone scheme sucks.
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When you have a crap QB it does. Schaub sucks.
If Denver wins its third Super Bowl in ZBS, we’ll revisit your thoughts on it.
December 30th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Patriots zone-block. They’re kinda awesome.
Texans season has gone downhill after the loss of Cushing, Joseph injuries, and starting LT Duane Brown injuries.
not how they block fat guys on run plays.
December 30th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Palmers 3rd oc in 15 months or so as a Raider.
Out of the frying pan and straight into the fire.
December 30th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Post game coaching carousel:
Dennis Allen – Safe
Jason Tarver – Safe
Greg Knapp – Couldn’t be fired fast enough
Ted Gilmore – Gone
Steve Hoffman – Gone. Way gone.
Clayton Lopez – Gone
Johnnie Lynn – Gone
Frank Pollack – Gone.
Kelly Skipper – Gone
Terrell Williams – Gone.
Lots of work to do. Starting tonight.
Allen and Reggie better already have replacements in mind and be working the phones… Except for assistants on playoff teams. That always slows down the process…
December 30th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
we need criner at TE…wait he is too slow…
December 30th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
Shanahan has NFL’s #1 run game still right? ZBS still.
December 30th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
182.dr_robert Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
Oakfshow Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Zone scheme sucks,Man I’m tired of being right!
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good thing it rarely happends
==================================================== Happens on a constant basis big money.Like when i called you a phony pzzy from Indianna.
December 30th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
LETS GO PRYOR!! Tear it up son.. Get ur willie Beaman on!
Just run! Just win baby! Do it for Al ! Al’s last draft pick! Greatness of RAiders is in its future! Put on for your city! Run n Gun!
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willie baemon? why does it have to be a black guy? why not a white movie qb?
why not “get your leo farnswoth on”. (look it up)
December 30th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
texaints ….annual choke job.
December 30th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
Morilla Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Aphid Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Alex7,
I’m no homer of Pryor but I get irritated when only one side is presented. It had to do with his time in the NFL. He was essentially out of football for the past 2 years, unless you can call it playing time.
If has is bad, then let’s look to pickup a project in the coming draft. If he is okay, then let’s get help elsewhere on the team because we need all the help we can get. This is all about getting the most out the draft to build a team.
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I’m rooting for him but have a feeling he is gone next year. I really don’t think his style of play is what this current org has in mind. That is unless someone from above ( Marc) pushes for that direction.
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Mark pushed for this..It’s obvious
December 30th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
189.alex7 Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
Shanahan has NFL’s #1 run game still right? ZBS still.
Check the rusing yards from the qb son.Stupid a$$.
December 30th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
zbs will be outlawed soon…
December 30th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
we need criner at TE…wait he is too slow…
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why? we already have a good TE. sometimes u people come up with the weirdest ideas of who needs to be replaced.
December 30th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Patriots lead the leauge in rushing TDs. And their lead rusher is a 3rd round no name back.
December 30th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Chargers 26
Raiders 16
Garbage TD late
December 30th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Kelly Skipper stays as RB coach.
He was RB last year in DMC’s career season.
His non-DMC RBs this year have excelled in the ZBS.
Backup Bush did fairly well here.
December 30th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Oakfshow Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
182.dr_robert Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
Oakfshow Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Zone scheme sucks,Man I’m tired of being right!
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good thing it rarely happends
==================================================== Happens on a constant basis big money.Like when i called you a phony pzzy from Indianna.
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cmon man. u know ur dumb.
December 30th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
Morilla Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Aphid Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Alex7,
I’m no homer of Pryor but I get irritated when only one side is presented. It had to do with his time in the NFL. He was essentially out of football for the past 2 years, unless you can call it playing time.
If has is bad, then let’s look to pickup a project in the coming draft. If he is okay, then let’s get help elsewhere on the team because we need all the help we can get. This is all about getting the most out the draft to build a team.
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I’m rooting for him but have a feeling he is gone next year. I really don’t think his style of play is what this current org has in mind. That is unless someone from above ( Marc) pushes for that direction.
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Mark pushed for this..It’s obvious
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no proof whatsoever.
December 30th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
Dr_robert Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
we need criner at TE…wait he is too slow…
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why? we already have a good TE. sometimes u people come up with the weirdest ideas of who needs to be replaced.
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Myers couldn’t block my 8 year-old daughter…Catching balls in garbage time means nothing to me.
December 30th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
Oakfoshow
you know the QB runs are designed in Washington.
And blocked for.
Using ZBS concepts.
And undrafted Alfred Morris is tearing it up.
Sigh, some of you…
December 30th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
Oakfshow Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
189.alex7 Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
Shanahan has NFL’s #1 run game still right? ZBS still.
Check the rusing yards from the qb son.Stupid a$$.
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the zbs has been to the running game what the wco was to the passing game. ur not very well informed.
December 30th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
Only zone scheme to anything recently was GreenBay.Pretty easy when the qb throws 50 times a fkn game!Dumbest fans in the world are this blog.Jesus Christmas.Baltimore implodeing,Houston implodeing,Washington great running qb,Denver.Well Payton Manning.Fk zoneblocking.
December 30th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
Dr_robert Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
we need criner at TE…wait he is too slow…
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why? we already have a good TE. sometimes u people come up with the weirdest ideas of who needs to be replaced.
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Myers couldn’t block my 8 year-old daughter…Catching balls in garbage time means nothing to me.
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soooo……….u think a wr will be better at………blocking? is that ur story?
December 30th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
199.
OK… Point taken.
I still think he’s gone. We’ll see….
December 30th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Dr_robert Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
Morilla Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Aphid Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Alex7,
I’m no homer of Pryor but I get irritated when only one side is presented. It had to do with his time in the NFL. He was essentially out of football for the past 2 years, unless you can call it playing time.
If has is bad, then let’s look to pickup a project in the coming draft. If he is okay, then let’s get help elsewhere on the team because we need all the help we can get. This is all about getting the most out the draft to build a team.
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I’m rooting for him but have a feeling he is gone next year. I really don’t think his style of play is what this current org has in mind. That is unless someone from above ( Marc) pushes for that direction.
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Mark pushed for this..It’s obvious
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no proof whatsoever.
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Let’s see Mark said he has his own ideas on the QB situation. A week ago Denise says Pryor isn’t ready to play QB. He waits until Friday to name the starter…I mean I guess I wasn’t at Raider headquarters to prove it either way, but yeah I suppose you’re right I do have no proof.
December 30th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Alex7 Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
Oakfoshow
you know the QB runs are designed in Washington.
And blocked for.
Using ZBS concepts.
And undrafted Alfred Morris is tearing it up.
Sigh, some of you…
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i said shutup. i WILL NOT have people accusing me of agreeing with u.
December 30th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
204.dr_robert Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
Oakfshow Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
189.alex7 Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
Shanahan has NFL’s #1 run game still right? ZBS still.
Check the rusing yards from the qb son.Stupid a$$.
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the zbs has been to the running game what the wco was to the passing game. ur not very well informed.
================================================== Only in your little mind big money.Zone scheme is to the running game as you are to Sunnyvale.Sucks!
December 30th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
Remember when John Fox got canned and was 12-20 the last two years before Manning showed up?
Then Fox remembered how to coach, or something?
Or players win games, not coaches…
December 30th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
Dr_robert Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
Dr_robert Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
we need criner at TE…wait he is too slow…
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why? we already have a good TE. sometimes u people come up with the weirdest ideas of who needs to be replaced.
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Myers couldn’t block my 8 year-old daughter…Catching balls in garbage time means nothing to me.
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soooo……….u think a wr will be better at………blocking? is that ur story?
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No I think Ausberry should have been more active in game plans…and saying Meyers is a good TE is not true….Thought the Criner comment was a joke on how Denise loves slow players.
December 30th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
I really dont like that its raining.. wish Pryor had his first start in fair conditions
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Unless it’s only raining when the Raiders are on offense, it is fair.
December 30th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
Oakfshow Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
Only zone scheme to anything recently was GreenBay.Pretty easy when the qb throws 50 times a fkn game!Dumbest fans in the world are this blog.Jesus Christmas.Baltimore implodeing,Houston implodeing,Washington great running qb,Denver.Well Payton Manning.Fk zoneblocking.
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really well said. ur right. u are a genius.
December 30th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
Our offense is modeled after Houston’s, and Houston’s offense is really struggling right now. Sure makes you feel secure about the future.
December 30th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
owner on the sidelines in his white puffy jacket???
LOL
December 30th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
DA changed is “wording” on TP within one day. Somebody said something to him.
December 30th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
Alex7 Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
Remember when John Fox got canned and was 12-20 the last two years before Manning showed up?
Then Fox remembered how to coach, or something?
Or players win games, not coaches…
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Fox was smart enough to cater his schemes around the players…see Teblow…can you say the same about Denise?
December 30th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Beautiful day at the q
December 30th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Oakfshow Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
204.dr_robert Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
Oakfshow Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
189.alex7 Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
Shanahan has NFL’s #1 run game still right? ZBS still.
Check the rusing yards from the qb son.Stupid a$$.
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the zbs has been to the running game what the wco was to the passing game. ur not very well informed.
================================================== Only in your little mind big money.Zone scheme is to the running game as you are to Sunnyvale.Sucks!
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LOL. the zbs and me are both successful.
December 30th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Alex7 Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
Remember when John Fox got canned and was 12-20 the last two years before Manning showed up?
Then Fox remembered how to coach, or something?
Or players win games, not coaches…
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Yup
December 30th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Romeo Crennel can come be our LB coach. Guy knows D, but that seems to be it.
Love staffs that have former HC as coordinators (Denver, Houston, Baltimore, NE, Pittsburgh, Seattle).
December 30th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
hahahaha!!!!!!! opening kick
December 30th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
td chargers
December 30th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
chekwa just pushed him into the endzone?
December 30th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
LMAO!!!!! I love it…Denise has us ready to play!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 30th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
TD SD – Perfect.
Way to have them ready to go Sharpie!
December 30th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
LOL
December 30th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
lol there goes the ST coach!
December 30th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
December 30th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
raiders are awful
December 30th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
And that sums up our season Raider fans!
December 30th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
3rd pick baby!!!!!
December 30th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
Kangaroo Koach stands there emotionless..
What a jerkoff..
December 30th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
This. Is going to be ugly.
December 30th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
Sun is out, lol. Didn’t shine on us though. Ouch
December 30th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
Strongest kicker in the fkn NFL and he can’t kick one out of the end zone to save his pathetic polish life.
December 30th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
LMAO!!!!! I love it…Denise has us ready to play!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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was dennis allen on the field suited up? where? i missed it!
December 30th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
Thanks for canning Fassell Denise!
December 30th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
and here comes the pryor era!
December 30th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
CDERaider Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
Kangaroo Koach stands there emotionless..
What a jerkoff..
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Holla!
December 30th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
Like I been saying Sp Teams coach must go
December 30th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
CDERaider Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
Kangaroo Koach stands there emotionless..
What a jerkoff..
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What would you have him do? Go yell at 11 guys?
December 30th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
Pryor has glove on left hand – wtf?
December 30th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
Passing puts people in the seats. Us grandpas had the benefit/privilege of seeing the AFL/NFL merger, and the Raiders/Steelers mix of black and blue in the trenches battles and incredible passing games.
Today? Too much money placed on passing QBs, and ownerships that do not include Al Davis.
West coast offense? boring…
December 30th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
GhostRaiders Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
CDERaider Says:
December 30th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
Kangaroo Koach stands there emotionless..
What a jerkoff..
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What would you have him do? Go yell at 11 guys?
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nahhh… just stand there and stare – its working so well.
Yeah – get in somebodies face – even the ST coordinator – do something!
December 30th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
Chargers playing their last game with Norv. Fired up.
Raiders, clueless. Playing because someone told them to get on a plane.
December 30th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Can’t wait to hear Reggie’s justification for keeping Allen.
That’s if we even hear from him at all.
He likely won’t do another press conference till after the draft.
December 30th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Say by by to the tranny.
December 30th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Well f me
December 30th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Denise is such a fkn loser.Good god..Zone blocking I’ve seen it work.DRRRRRRRR.