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Raiders inactives vs. Chargers

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, December 30th, 2012 at 12:07 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Players listed as inactives today vs. Chargers:

QB Carson Palmer, RB Jeremy Stewart, S Tyvon Branch, LB Rolando McClain, RG Mike Brisiel, DE Brandon Bair, WR Juron Criner.

Tony Bergstrom will start for Brisiel at right guard, Mike Mitchell for Tyvon Branch at strong safety.

A chance for Bergstrom to put something on film as a potential starter next season and Mitchell to market himself going into free agency. A mild surprise Criner is inactive, he’s been practicing lately.

Bigger surprise _ offensive lineman Lucas Nix is active for the first time after being inactive for 15 straight games.

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  • alex7

    Davis let go sooooo many quality coordinators / coaches here:

    Pagano, Harbaugh, Fox, Brian Schneider, Shanahan, Sarkisian,

    could never appreciate coaching talent and give them the promotions/$ that would have kept them around

  • dr_robert

    even with beech, missdick, fangs, etc, sullivan/alex is still the most reviled/idiotic poster ever.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNoi_wwzbtQ Zymurge

    Recapping my QBs predictions (get them in now boys and let’s see who was right)

    —–

    Assuming 50ish % of the snaps we’ll see:

    Pryor:
    – 5-12 passing (around 40-45%), 50-60 yards, 2 INTs
    – 5-7 runs for maybe 50-60 yards, most of which will be on a single play.
    – One TD scored either running or passing.
    – About the same odds as a TD for one fumble on either a run or in waiting too long trying to prove he’s a pocket pass early and getting drilled.
    – At least 1 each delay of game, time out wasted as the clock winds down (probably called by the coach from the sideline), several cadence related false starts, and probably zero read based adjustments of the alignment pre-snap

    Leinhart:
    – 9-14 passing, 115 yards, 1 INT, 1 TD
    – 1 run for 2 yards
    - A couple nice audibles that set up big running plays on draws
    – No credit

    ——

  • BOKNOWS

    Dam it!!!…Philly is 4-12 now too…..

  • alex7

    RaidO

    you, yes YOU :) can also quickly look up Pryor’s scouting report coming out of HIGH SCHOOL,

    along with his statistics vs legit D’s while at OSU and find the same things I did.

    Just takes effort.

    He’s always struggled with footwork, accuracy, and reading the D.

  • The_Civilian_James_Trapp

    Dr_robert Says:
    December 30th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
    J Hill Says:
    December 30th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
    41 pts for the Panthers????

    How did we stop this train last week?

    ************
    defense has improved ever since:

    mcclain’s removal
    carter’s getting healthy
    adams and ross entered the scene

    =========

    Since retard got suspended. We faced the following scoring ranked teams:

    Cleveland 23rd
    Denver 2nd(Fox took it easy on Denise so he will stay)
    KC 32nd
    Car 21st

    I wouldn’t celebrate Denise’s alleged improvement

  • stablersbeard

    “We will see who has heart today. I bet TP6 plays with heart.”

    ++++++++

    He will… And that heart plus his 7 Wonderlic will probably equal another game without a trip across the goal line….

  • dr_robert

    so, i’ll say it one more time–i really would love to see pryor do well. i hope he does. i don’t think he will, but if he does, it will be awesome. i’ll try to have some of u guys’ optimism. i hope it’s not a long game.

  • Dakota

    BOKNOWS Says:
    December 30th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
    Dam it!!!…Philly is 4-12 now too…..
    ====

    must lose game.

  • RaidingTexas

    J Hill Says:
    December 30th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
    41 pts for the Panthers????

    How did we stop this train last week?

    ————————————

    Well for one, the Saints have the worst defense in the NFL. But it does say something that the Raiders are one of only three teams to hold Carolina under 300 yards this season.

    The Raiders defense has actually played pretty well at times this season. The offense just does it no favors by going 3-and-out all the time, leaving the defense on the field too much. That’s part of why the yards and points start to pile up.

    If the Raiders can add another playmaker on the DL and a serious ballhawking LB, I think Tarver’s defense might be pretty good.

  • dr_robert

    The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
    December 30th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
    Dr_robert Says:
    December 30th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
    J Hill Says:
    December 30th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
    41 pts for the Panthers????

    How did we stop this train last week?

    ************
    defense has improved ever since:

    mcclain’s removal
    carter’s getting healthy
    adams and ross entered the scene

    =========

    Since retard got suspended. We faced the following scoring ranked teams:

    Cleveland 23rd
    Denver 2nd(Fox took it easy on Denise so he will stay)
    KC 32nd
    Car 21st

    I wouldn’t celebrate Denise’s alleged improvement
    ***********

    true enuff, but they have looked better on defense. mainly cuz of those personnel changes.

  • alex7

    Zymurge, JFB, and myself are on the same page regarding Pryor’s terribleness.

    We’re just realist here who actually google statistics to back up our posts instead of randomly stating what we THINK and FEEL (looking at Robert and others).

    We’re dang-near the Inklings here.

  • Dakota

    Lions and philly lost….we could drop from the third pick to #5 or 6.

  • Aphid

    Alex7,

    I’m no homer of Pryor but I get irritated when only one side is presented. It had to do with his time in the NFL. He was essentially out of football for the past 2 years, unless you can call it playing time.

    If has is bad, then let’s look to pickup a project in the coming draft. If he is okay, then let’s get help elsewhere on the team because we need all the help we can get. This is all about getting the most out the draft to build a team.

  • Swamp Master Yoda

    Just Lose Baby! Expedite the firings.

  • dr_robert

    Zymurge Says:
    December 30th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
    Recapping my QBs predictions (get them in now boys and let’s see who was right)

    —–

    Assuming 50ish % of the snaps we’ll see:

    Pryor:
    – 5-12 passing (around 40-45%), 50-60 yards, 2 INTs
    – 5-7 runs for maybe 50-60 yards, most of which will be on a single play.
    – One TD scored either running or passing.
    – About the same odds as a TD for one fumble on either a run or in waiting too long trying to prove he’s a pocket pass early and getting drilled.
    – At least 1 each delay of game, time out wasted as the clock winds down (probably called by the coach from the sideline), several cadence related false starts, and probably zero read based adjustments of the alignment pre-snap

    Leinhart:
    – 9-14 passing, 115 yards, 1 INT, 1 TD
    – 1 run for 2 yards
    - A couple nice audibles that set up big running plays on draws
    – No credit

    ——
    ***************

    i’ll say pryor does this:

    8-17 95 yards 1 int

    8 rushes 65 yards 1 td 1 fumble

  • Swamp Master Yoda

    Dakota Says:
    December 30th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
    BOKNOWS Says:
    December 30th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
    Dam it!!!…Philly is 4-12 now too…..
    ====

    must lose game.
    =============

    Just Lose Baby!

  • Whoknows

    Sky divers landing on the field

  • radraider

    WITH WIN I THINK WE GET 6TH PICK IN 2013 SORRY ABOUT CAPS

  • morilla

    Aphid Says:
    December 30th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
    Alex7,

    I’m no homer of Pryor but I get irritated when only one side is presented. It had to do with his time in the NFL. He was essentially out of football for the past 2 years, unless you can call it playing time.

    If has is bad, then let’s look to pickup a project in the coming draft. If he is okay, then let’s get help elsewhere on the team because we need all the help we can get. This is all about getting the most out the draft to build a team.
    ———-

    I’m rooting for him but have a feeling he is gone next year. I really don’t think his style of play is what this current org has in mind. That is unless someone from above ( Marc) pushes for that direction.

  • oakfshow

    129.Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 30th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
    Al Saunders is pushing 70, hell he was the HC of the replacement players 30 years ago.

    He seems to have gladly took a replay consultating gig.

    Highly doubt he wants to stand on the sidelines on gameday and call plays anymore.

    ==================================================== Hey just fire,remember I said Houston would lose in the first round and you said that be interesting seeing they would have a first round buy? Others thought that was so funny too.Well My turn to laugh.3rd seed means no first round buy cheif.AAhaaaaaaaaaaaa. So when they get illiminated in the first round once again I’de be right and you be wrong! How are the rest of the zoneCOCKING teams looking today? Not very good. Zone scheme sucks.

  • dr_robert

    Alex7 Says:
    December 30th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
    Zymurge, JFB, and myself are on the same page regarding Pryor’s terribleness.

    We’re just realist here who actually google statistics to back up our posts instead of randomly stating what we THINK and FEEL (looking at Robert and others).

    We’re dang-near the Inklings here.
    ************

    u never stop lying. u are ALWAYS anti-raiders.

    i back up EVERYTHING with facts. u spin EVERYTHING.

    ur an idiot. i’m a beloved “know-it-all”.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNoi_wwzbtQ Zymurge

    By the way, Pryor has one advantage that he won’t ever have again. There’s virtually no tape of him playing with the starting offense in a real game right now. The Chargers are going to be the first team to see what his actual package of plays are that he is capable of. They won’t have the advantage of studying what they do from each of the 3 or 4 formations he’s able to run and understanding what his options are on each.

    There’s a reason that Cam came out with amazing numbers in his first couple of games and then tapered off. The same reason he started this season slow. Same is starting to show up for Kaep in SF. Gimmicky offenses are great to catch a team off guard, but this is the NFL. College level offenses don’t fly for long for a reason, because they don’t have the complexity to keep very technical NFL defenses off balance once they know what to expect.

    If Pryor can’t succeed with this scenario (much like Cam did), then it’s only going to get much, much harder for him once teams have footage to scheme around.

  • alex7

    lol

    forgot Pryor scored a 7 on the wonderlic.

    Explains his inability to read legit D’s at OSU and in NFL practices.

    RGIII scored a 24, Newton a 21, Fitzpatrick in Buff a 40-something (allowed a 7th-round talent to start in the NFL, good for him).

  • RaidO

    Ha ha in this horrible season this may be the biggest game of the season. Go TP!

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    I really dont like that its raining.. wish Pryor had his first start in fair conditions

  • oakfshow

    Zone scheme sucks,Man I’m tired of being right!

  • dr_robert

    gonna be an interesting game. there is at least some chance this game could highlight anything from one of the most amazing “comes from out of nowhere” great talents to one of “the most embarrassingly bad qb’s ever”.

  • C2E

    Raiders 23
    Bolts 20

  • dr_robert

    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    December 30th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
    I really dont like that its raining.. wish Pryor had his first start in fair conditions
    ***********

    and pre-game excuse #43 just posted.

  • oakfshow

    Justfire where ya at? Lets here the brilliant excuses.

  • dr_robert

    Oakfshow Says:
    December 30th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
    Zone scheme sucks,Man I’m tired of being right!
    ***************

    good thing it rarely happends

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    LETS GO PRYOR!! Tear it up son.. Get ur willie Beaman on!

    Just run! Just win baby! Do it for Al ! Al’s last draft pick! Greatness of RAiders is in its future! Put on for your city! Run n Gun!

  • RaidingTexas

    Oakfshow Says:

    Zone scheme sucks.

    ———————————————

    When you have a crap QB it does. Schaub sucks.

    If Denver wins its third Super Bowl in ZBS, we’ll revisit your thoughts on it.

  • alex7

    Patriots zone-block. They’re kinda awesome.

    Texans season has gone downhill after the loss of Cushing, Joseph injuries, and starting LT Duane Brown injuries.

    not how they block fat guys on run plays.

  • Dakota

    Palmers 3rd oc in 15 months or so as a Raider.

    Out of the frying pan and straight into the fire.

  • stablersbeard

    Post game coaching carousel:

    Dennis Allen – Safe
    Jason Tarver – Safe
    Greg Knapp – Couldn’t be fired fast enough
    Ted Gilmore – Gone
    Steve Hoffman – Gone. Way gone.
    Clayton Lopez – Gone
    Johnnie Lynn – Gone
    Frank Pollack – Gone.
    Kelly Skipper – Gone
    Terrell Williams – Gone.

    Lots of work to do. Starting tonight.

    Allen and Reggie better already have replacements in mind and be working the phones… Except for assistants on playoff teams. That always slows down the process…

  • Al_is_theraiders

    we need criner at TE…wait he is too slow…

  • alex7

    Shanahan has NFL’s #1 run game still right? ZBS still.

  • oakfshow

    182.dr_robert Says:
    December 30th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
    Oakfshow Says:
    December 30th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
    Zone scheme sucks,Man I’m tired of being right!
    ***************

    good thing it rarely happends

    ==================================================== Happens on a constant basis big money.Like when i called you a phony pzzy from Indianna.

  • dr_robert

    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    December 30th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
    LETS GO PRYOR!! Tear it up son.. Get ur willie Beaman on!

    Just run! Just win baby! Do it for Al ! Al’s last draft pick! Greatness of RAiders is in its future! Put on for your city! Run n Gun!
    ***********

    willie baemon? why does it have to be a black guy? why not a white movie qb?

    why not “get your leo farnswoth on”. (look it up)

  • Al_is_theraiders

    texaints ….annual choke job.

  • The_Civilian_James_Trapp

    Morilla Says:
    December 30th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
    Aphid Says:
    December 30th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
    Alex7,

    I’m no homer of Pryor but I get irritated when only one side is presented. It had to do with his time in the NFL. He was essentially out of football for the past 2 years, unless you can call it playing time.

    If has is bad, then let’s look to pickup a project in the coming draft. If he is okay, then let’s get help elsewhere on the team because we need all the help we can get. This is all about getting the most out the draft to build a team.
    ———-

    I’m rooting for him but have a feeling he is gone next year. I really don’t think his style of play is what this current org has in mind. That is unless someone from above ( Marc) pushes for that direction.

    ========

    Mark pushed for this..It’s obvious

  • oakfshow

    189.alex7 Says:
    December 30th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
    Shanahan has NFL’s #1 run game still right? ZBS still.

    Check the rusing yards from the qb son.Stupid a$$.

  • Al_is_theraiders

    zbs will be outlawed soon…

  • dr_robert

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    December 30th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
    we need criner at TE…wait he is too slow…
    *******

    why? we already have a good TE. sometimes u people come up with the weirdest ideas of who needs to be replaced.

  • morilla

    Patriots lead the leauge in rushing TDs. And their lead rusher is a 3rd round no name back.

  • The_Civilian_James_Trapp

    Chargers 26
    Raiders 16

    Garbage TD late

  • alex7

    Kelly Skipper stays as RB coach.

    He was RB last year in DMC’s career season.
    His non-DMC RBs this year have excelled in the ZBS.
    Backup Bush did fairly well here.

  • dr_robert

    Oakfshow Says:
    December 30th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
    182.dr_robert Says:
    December 30th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
    Oakfshow Says:
    December 30th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
    Zone scheme sucks,Man I’m tired of being right!
    ***************

    good thing it rarely happends

    ==================================================== Happens on a constant basis big money.Like when i called you a phony pzzy from Indianna.
    *********

    cmon man. u know ur dumb.