Breaking news: Raiders fire off. coord. Knapp, three other coaches
By Steve Corkran
Monday, December 31st, 2012 at 11:17 am in Oakland Raiders.
The Raiders on Monday fired offensive coordinator Greg Knapp in response to a drastic drop in production.
A person familiar with the situation confirmed the news.
The Raiders also fired offensive line coach Frank Pollack, special teams coordinator Steve Hoffman and linebackers coach Johnny Holland, the team announced.
“Decisions like this are very difficult,” Raiders coach Dennis Allen said in a press release. “I have a great deal of respect for all of these men and I appreciate their contributions to the Oakland Raiders this season.”
Allen will speak with the media in the next several minutes. More on that later.
In particular, running back Darren McFadden’s yards per carry dropped from 5.4 in 2011 to 3.3 this season. He averaged 5.2 in 2010, as well.
There was a slight increase in passing yardage this season, with the Raiders jumping from 11th in 2011 under Hue Jackson to eighth this season. The passer rating of the quarterbacks also surged from 79.4 to 82.4.
Beyond that, the Raiders endured noticeable drop-offs in yards per game, points per game, rushing yards per game and rushing touchdowns.
The Raiders dipped from seventh in the league in rushing in 2011 to 28th this season, with a drop of more than 43 yards per game. They also tied for the fewest rushing touchdowns (4) after tying for seventh with 16 in 2011.
Allen hired Knapp and Pollack with the understanding that the Raiders would switch to the zone-blocking scheme favored by Knapp and Pollack.
McFadden and the offensive line struggled in the new scheme, though Allen and Knapp remained steadfast in their support of the change.
Knapp pleaded patience, saying it takes time for the scheme to take hold. McFadden looked nothing like the player that flourished in Jackson’s scheme, and his frustration surfaced toward the end of the season.
Here is a comparison of how the Raiders offense fared in 2011 and 2012:
Yards per game
2012: 18th at 344
2011: 9th at 379.5
Points per game
2012: 26th at 18.1
2011: 16th at 22.4
Passing yards per game
2012: 8th at 255.2
2011: 11th at 247.6
Passer rating
2012: 18th at 82.4
2011: 17th at 79.4
Rushing yards per game
2012: 28th at 88.8
2011: 7th at 131.9
Rushing touchdowns
2012: Tied for 31st with four
2011: Tied for seventh with 16
Rushing yards per carry
2012: Tied for 23rd at 3.8
2011: Tied for 7th at 4.5
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December 31st, 2012 at 11:18 am
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December 31st, 2012 at 11:19 am
Question, how many years does it take DA to win 8 games as HC of the raiders?
December 31st, 2012 at 11:19 am
FIRE REGGIE NOW.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:19 am
Gdog Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 10:56 am
If you look at all the perennial playoff teams in the NFL right now, there are only TWO constants… everything else is nearly random.
1. They put a franchise QB in place and STICK WITH HIM.
2. They put a headstrong HC in place AND STICK WITH HIM.
Nothing else matters. This isn’t rocket science.
GB, NY, NE, Balt, NO, Pitts (ok, they faultered a bit this year but does anyone expect these two teams to not be back?)
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I agree with finding a GOOD head coach and sticking with him, just like those teams did.
GB. Mike McCarthy 1st season 2006: 8-8
GB record previous year: 4-12
Bill Belichicks 1st season vs DAs has been discussed on this blog AD NAUSEAUM, not in DAs favor either, feel free to backtrack.
Balt. Harbaugh 1st season: 11-5
Balt record previous year: 5-11
PITT Mike Tomlin 1st season 2007: 10-6
Previous season: 8-8
Dennis Allen: 4-12
Previous season: 8-8
Those teams found good coaches and stuck with them.
Youre right, thats what we should do. Find a good coach, and stick with him. Let me know when we find a good coach.
Dennis Allen is not McCarthy, Belichick, Harbaugh, or Tomlin.
Or Jackson, or Cable for that matter.
Dennis aint got “it”.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:19 am
Knapp, Holland and 2 yet to be named assistants have been fired.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:19 am
Far too late, should’ve been done in the Post game last night
December 31st, 2012 at 11:19 am
Hooray, it is about time!!!!!!!!!
December 31st, 2012 at 11:19 am
Continuity Prediction under DA;
2012 4-12
2013 5-11
2014 6-10
December 31st, 2012 at 11:20 am
Derek Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:19 am
Knapp, Holland and 2 yet to be named assistants have been fired.
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Hoffman & Pollard.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:20 am
Reggie should be fired for a drastic drop in production.
FIRE REGGIE NOW.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:20 am
The_Judge37 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:16 am
2519.RaiderDuck Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:16 am
Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:14 am
John David Booty Says:
Allow me to retort:
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Quoting Jules?
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What does Marcellus Wallace look like?
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What?
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“What” ain’t no country I’ve ever heard of! They speak English in “What?”
December 31st, 2012 at 11:21 am
wish granted
December 31st, 2012 at 11:22 am
we are in a perfect storm with RM and DA, they’re hitched together and they will both be fired together next year but it there is already enough evidence that RM and DA are not long for this league
December 31st, 2012 at 11:22 am
2536.Dakota Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:20 am
http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_c2#/video/bestoftv/2012/12/30/wr-russia-airline-crash-latest.cnni
Holy schyyyyt you have to see this!
December 31st, 2012 at 11:22 am
Repost
Born with a Patch Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:12 am
Knapp should be canned by the end of the day. Tarver didn’t do a great job but had alot of practice squad talent to work with. I say we replace Knapp with Tressel! Give Pryor some comfort in the Tressel type system and let him grow. He has the tools, he needs the backing. Everybody can agree that Palmer is not a long term solution, he was a reach to save last season. If we hadn’t spent so much on getting him, he’d prob be gone already. What you guys think? Rid Knapp, Keep Tarver and get him some NFL caliber players and hire Tressel
We all knew he’d be out today. Who do we bring in? No way Norv would come back and i wouldn’t want him back either. I’ll pass on Reid, he likes the WCO and couldn’t do anything with Vick. Whisenhunt might get another HC position.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:22 am
It’s on Reggie.
FIRE REGGIE TODAY.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:22 am
Thec Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 10:50 am
Chargers hired Ron Wolfe as a consultant in searching for a GM!
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Yeah i read that also…Dude is a hired gun.
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Lol, you watch, he’ll recommend they hire a Packer that is currently ahead of his son Eliot.
If that happens, you will know why Ron Wolf recommended Reggie
December 31st, 2012 at 11:23 am
Holland was the linebackers coach, the two offensive assistants…one of them better have been that OL coach!
December 31st, 2012 at 11:23 am
FIRE DA AND HIRE KEN WISENHUNT NOW
December 31st, 2012 at 11:24 am
Knapp sucked.
But he should not take the fall for the whole team being bad.
Hoffman was equally as bad.
Frank Pollack needs to go right behind Knapp.
Tarvers defense gave up 443 points. The most since 1961.
And this whole mess starts from the top. Dennis Allen has to go. Reggie, Mark you know good and well Dennis Allen is not going to get you a Lombardi trophy. Lets cut our losses, regroup, and upgrade.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:24 am
Now I can celebrate the end of the year! Thank you!!!
December 31st, 2012 at 11:24 am
Just got back from a Cigarette break, told the homeless man that begs for cash outside work that Greg Knapp got fired. He said, “So there is a God”, we embraced for a few minutes, then cried, then laughed, then i told him i don’t have any chance, and he told me to Fk off.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:24 am
John David Booty Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:24 am
Tarvers defense gave up 443 points. The most since 1961.
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Look at the dramatic improvement once we got rid of McChump, though.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:25 am
Now, lets get some guys in here!!!! Please do not wait til after the SuperBowl!!!
December 31st, 2012 at 11:25 am
If that happens, you will know why Ron Wolf recommended Reggie
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Had my questions about this at the onset.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:26 am
Duck,
The ZBS traditionally struggles in goal line and short yardage situations. That was very apparent in 2012 for the Raiders.
A return to power blocking was what was needed in 2010 and it will be what is needed in 2013.
Its not just about McFadden, it is about what succeeds when you need it the most…..short yardage and on the goal line power; blocking is the way to go.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:26 am
Thank God…
December 31st, 2012 at 11:26 am
Yeah DA is a defense guy and the defense gave up 443 points. The most since 1961.
FIRE DA!!
December 31st, 2012 at 11:26 am
20.John David Booty Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:24 am
Knapp sucked.
But he should not take the fall for the whole team being bad.
Hoffman was equally as bad.
Frank Pollack needs to go right behind Knapp.
Tarvers defense gave up 443 points. The most since 1961.
And this whole mess starts from the top. Dennis Allen has to go. Reggie, Mark you know good and well Dennis Allen is not going to get you a Lombardi trophy. Lets cut our losses, regroup, and upgrade.
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I agree 100%
December 31st, 2012 at 11:27 am
Dakota Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:22 am
2536.Dakota Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:20 am
http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_c2#/video/bestoftv/2012/12/30/wr-russia-airline-crash-latest.cnni
Holy schyyyyt you have to see this!
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Thats some wild sh!t.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:27 am
THANK GOD!!!!
I have ever wished so much ill will toward someone like that guy
December 31st, 2012 at 11:28 am
Promote Al Saunders to OCO
December 31st, 2012 at 11:28 am
Goes without saying that it came across the NFL ticker 20 minutes ago, but they haven’t said a word about our irrelevant team and all of our problems.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:29 am
23.RaiderDuck Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:24 am
John David Booty Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:24 am
Tarvers defense gave up 443 points. The most since 1961.
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Look at the dramatic improvement once we got rid of McChump, though.
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Yep, only gave up about 500 yards to Denver and only 360 passing yards to Weeden! What great improvement!
December 31st, 2012 at 11:29 am
YESSS!!!One down many ore to GO…Go Raiders
December 31st, 2012 at 11:29 am
People throwing out coaching names should remember it isnt simply about hiring a coach that has produced with their system.
This is about getting at least an oc that can do something with the talent we have now!!!
Guys like moore streetr dhb, ford reece and dmac are enough to cause problems for any defense in the right offense. See 2010-2011 raider offense and hu jack/ suanders.
Most important is PRYOR. Im sure he has big mack and davis ready for more.
get an oc that can utilize pryor with all of our speedsters and we could be a 30 point per week offense.
Case and point. Yesterday suddenly the boootleg action opened running lanes in the interior allowing dmac to run down hill. Dmac should have carried 30 times not 19, he may have been around 100 yards, or even broken a long one.
Dmac and Pryor compliment one another in a way he and palmer never have.
We need an oc that can recognize this and implement a system that causes the most stress and hesitation in the defense.
Did you see the play fake and boot leg td by pryor?!?! he fooled the d end line backer and db!!!
He put enough on tape that any creative mind will jump at the chance to be an oc here.
Big mack the onus is on you at this moment. If you dont fire allen (i think you should for his treatment of pryor for one) make sure you hire an oc that builds with pryor as the center peice
guys like turner and some of the other names i have seen dont teach the offense that pryor should be running, and could only be effective if they are willing to add to thier own playbook the way bevel in seattle and shanahn in washington have done.
The wave of the future is now wearing silver and black
impostor fans chew and swallow
December 31st, 2012 at 11:29 am
Priesttj12 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:25 am
I’m going to say this and I know it’s going to meet with a lot of acrimony. I really believe that DA and Knapp were trying to set Pryor up to fail. If not for Palmer maybe they even succeed. I don’t think it’s even a question that Pryor knows those two were never in his corner. The only reason Pryor had the success he did have was Palmer took him aside and essentially did Knapp’s job for him. He gave Pryor the tools he needed to succeed he broke down the game film and showed him how to attack them. Once DA and Knapp saw Pryor’s preparedness and leadership they said if we don’t help this kid it’s going to be very clear we didn’t want to. Knapp failed Pryor and DA tried to sabotage him. IOW’s DA did it intentionally and Knapp was just incompetent.
I think mark wants to get rid of DA, I think Reggie is begging for DA’s job. However he may not be able to save it if truth comes to light and DA gets exposed as dogging and scapegoating players. DA will be one and done…………..period
December 31st, 2012 at 11:30 am
Knapp (OC), Hoffman (STC), Pollard (O-Line Asst.) & Holland (LB Asst.) all fired! Well deserved. The first smart thing that DA has done.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:30 am
23.RaiderDuck Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:24 am
John David Booty Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:24 am
Tarvers defense gave up 443 points. The most since 1961.
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Look at the dramatic improvement once we got rid of McChump, though.
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No, he is 100 years old. Norv is only 60 (although he looks 100 years old with that face!)
December 31st, 2012 at 11:30 am
In order to bring in a “decent” offensive mind at OC or HC/OC means firing DA it should be done. No hesitation
FIRE DA!!
December 31st, 2012 at 11:30 am
Thec Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:25 am
If that happens, you will know why Ron Wolf recommended Reggie
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Had my questions about this at the onset.
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Yeah, it’s a valid question/suspicion…giving Reggie time, but so far, he’s been very unimpressive and not active enough to back-up Ron Wolf’s recommendation.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:30 am
lol I mean, we could have told DA what was going to happen.
FIRE MORE! MORE FIRE! FIRE, FIRE!
December 31st, 2012 at 11:30 am
Power blocking system isn’t about DMAC. Bush was productive in the system too.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:30 am
32.Thec Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:28 am
Promote Al Saunders to OCO
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No, he is 100 years old. Norv is only 60 (although he looks 100 years old with that face!)
ignore #39 lol
December 31st, 2012 at 11:31 am
RaiderDuck Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:24 am
John David Booty Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:24 am
Tarvers defense gave up 443 points. The most since 1961.
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Look at the dramatic improvement once we got rid of McChump, though.
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I addressed the myth of our defenses being so good the last few games before. I’ll repost those thoughts:
Looking at the last 5 games for a sign that Dennis Allen should remain head coach. I dont think they played well the Cleveland game, where they gave up 475 yards, including a Brandon Wheedens career high 364 yards.
They still gave up 26 to DEN and 428 yards, including 119 to Knowshon Moreno, his season high. He had 481 all season. I also feel Fox “took his foot off the gas” just a little that game, but even if thats not true, that wasnt “playing well” by any means.
The big 15-0 shutout against KC that you all like to point to as the “improvement”, I agree they played “better”, but I also saw KC drive down the field with ease, and get into the red zone on 2 occasions and both times electing to not kick the FG. So that shut out is misleading. Not to mention, it was against Brady Quinn and the team that has earned the #1 pick, due to how horrible they were, but if you and DA wanna high five each other over that one, cool, I’ll give you that game.
Last 2 games against equally bad teams this season in CAR and SD. The D played well enough to win, but not great. Hardly well enough for me to go along with the myth that the defense has been playing so much better the last few games.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:31 am
Priesttj12 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:29 am
Priesttj12 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:25 am
I’m going to say this and I know it’s going to meet with a lot of acrimony. I really believe that DA and Knapp were trying to set Pryor up to fail. If not for Palmer maybe they even succeed. I don’t think it’s even a question that Pryor knows those two were never in his corner. The only reason Pryor had the success he did have was Palmer took him aside and essentially did Knapp’s job for him. He gave Pryor the tools he needed to succeed he broke down the game film and showed him how to attack them. Once DA and Knapp saw Pryor’s preparedness and leadership they said if we don’t help this kid it’s going to be very clear we didn’t want to. Knapp failed Pryor and DA tried to sabotage him. IOW’s DA did it intentionally and Knapp was just incompetent.
I think mark wants to get rid of DA, I think Reggie is begging for DA’s job. However he may not be able to save it if truth comes to light and DA gets exposed as dogging and scapegoating players. DA will be one and done…………..period
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TRUTH
December 31st, 2012 at 11:32 am
Dakota Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:29 am
23.RaiderDuck Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:24 am
John David Booty Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:24 am
Tarvers defense gave up 443 points. The most since 1961.
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Look at the dramatic improvement once we got rid of McChump, though.
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Yep, only gave up about 500 yards to Denver and only 360 passing yards to Weeden! What great improvement!
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For the third time, these are our defensive statistics for the last four games of the season (after McChump was benched and Seymour was inactive):
257 total yards per game
16.75 points per game
83 rushing yards per game
191.5 passing yards per game
11 sacks
4 takeaways
December 31st, 2012 at 11:32 am
DA and Tarver to stay.
Shame on Mark Davis.
FIRE REGGIE NOW.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:32 am
2502.RaidO Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:10 am
DA hired Knapp. DA should be FIRED to.
FIRE DA!!!!
2503.eldiabs Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:10 am
KNAPP was the worst and let’s remember DA and RM stood by him because they believed in him and they CHOSE HIM!11! That shows inability to recognized the obvious and that’s scary
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Thank god these clowns were canned!
DA should be worried that he might be next if Davis and McK can get a better HC!
December 31st, 2012 at 11:33 am
45.John David Booty Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:31 am
RaiderDuck Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:24 am
John David Booty Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:24 am
Tarvers defense gave up 443 points. The most since 1961.
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Look at the dramatic improvement once we got rid of McChump, though.
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I addressed the myth of our defenses being so good the last few games before. I’ll repost those thoughts:
Looking at the last 5 games for a sign that Dennis Allen should remain head coach. I dont think they played well the Cleveland game, where they gave up 475 yards, including a Brandon Wheedens career high 364 yards.
They still gave up 26 to DEN and 428 yards, including 119 to Knowshon Moreno, his season high. He had 481 all season. I also feel Fox “took his foot off the gas” just a little that game, but even if thats not true, that wasnt “playing well” by any means.
The big 15-0 shutout against KC that you all like to point to as the “improvement”, I agree they played “better”, but I also saw KC drive down the field with ease, and get into the red zone on 2 occasions and both times electing to not kick the FG. So that shut out is misleading. Not to mention, it was against Brady Quinn and the team that has earned the #1 pick, due to how horrible they were, but if you and DA wanna high five each other over that one, cool, I’ll give you that game.
Last 2 games against equally bad teams this season in CAR and SD. The D played well enough to win, but not great. Hardly well enough for me to go along with the myth that the defense has been playing so much better the last few games.
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This.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:33 am
Mark please if you are reading this or anyone who is reading this.
Please do NOT fire Tarver he is NOT culpable in the mess, this is a very good young coach that we can biuld this defense around. I would much rather see DA get canned and keep this guy.
DA doghoused players and victimized players based on nothing more than assumptions.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:33 am
No complaints here over Knapps firing … Hoffman too….. This team was pitiful ….
December 31st, 2012 at 11:34 am
this is actually BAD news..because it might mean that DA is staying as head coach. more disappointing..since Jon Gruden has just gone public saying he IS coming back to coaching and will interview for open positions. according to NFL.com. I do no have not liked DA since day 1. his demeanor has rubbed me the wrong way. Him Hiring Knapp in the first place was a colossal and unforgivable mistake. Seems as if EVERYONE other than him and Reggie (who shouldnt have allowed the hire) knew it would be. Add to the fact their BUTCHERING of roster…(A. Curry , DVD..no playing time for chekwa… not playing Pryor the last 3 weeks) and his constant blaming of the lack of talent on a team who was a couple injuries and a real Defensive coordinator from being 11-5 last year. he needs to go..HIRE CHUCKY..or ANYONE else immediately
December 31st, 2012 at 11:34 am
Dakota Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:30 am
32.Thec Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:28 am
Promote Al Saunders to OCO
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No, he is 100 years old. Norv is only 60 (although he looks 100 years old with that face!)
ignore #39 lol
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Al Saunders Would be a good move at OCO imho.
has a really good feel for these players, and knows their strengths.
He can be OCO, let someone else call the plays.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:34 am
The next OC might wind up being the interim head coach next year anyway, so this next OC better be a good one and get this offense to do what they were doing under Hue.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:34 am
I’ll let DA scapegoat Knapp for Half of those losses, but that’s it.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:35 am
I sure hope they drop kick DA, or demote him to linebacker coach, scout or waterboy. He’s a terrible HC. Spots McKenzie is also garbage. Dude is like the NFL junk man. He seems to only go after unwanted junk. His coach and player selections have been terrible.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:35 am
The Raiders just got better by dumping Knappster.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:35 am
Thec Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:31 am
Priesttj12 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:29 am
Priesttj12 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:25 am
I’m going to say this and I know it’s going to meet with a lot of acrimony. I really believe that DA and Knapp were trying to set Pryor up to fail. If not for Palmer maybe they even succeed. I don’t think it’s even a question that Pryor knows those two were never in his corner. The only reason Pryor had the success he did have was Palmer took him aside and essentially did Knapp’s job for him. He gave Pryor the tools he needed to succeed he broke down the game film and showed him how to attack them. Once DA and Knapp saw Pryor’s preparedness and leadership they said if we don’t help this kid it’s going to be very clear we didn’t want to. Knapp failed Pryor and DA tried to sabotage him. IOW’s DA did it intentionally and Knapp was just incompetent.
I think mark wants to get rid of DA, I think Reggie is begging for DA’s job. However he may not be able to save it if truth comes to light and DA gets exposed as dogging and scapegoating players. DA will be one and done…………..period
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TRUTH
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DA’s quick change of “wording”= (less than 24 hours) on TP shows some nonsense was going on with the situation. DA lied and BS’ed.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:35 am
Well, if you guys are saying that Reggie is begging for DA’s job…who would come in and be a HC here? Fangio? Lovie?
December 31st, 2012 at 11:35 am
I agree with finding a GOOD head coach and sticking with him, just like those teams did.
GB. Mike McCarthy 1st season 2006: 8-8
GB record previous year: 4-12
Bill Belichicks 1st season vs DAs has been discussed on this blog AD NAUSEAUM, not in DAs favor either, feel free to backtrack.
Balt. Harbaugh 1st season: 11-5
Balt record previous year: 5-11
PITT Mike Tomlin 1st season 2007: 10-6
Previous season: 8-8
Dennis Allen: 4-12
Previous season: 8-8
Those teams found good coaches and stuck with them.
Youre right, thats what we should do. Find a good coach, and stick with him. Let me know when we find a good coach.
Dennis Allen is not McCarthy, Belichick, Harbaugh, or Tomlin.
Or Jackson, or Cable for that matter.
Dennis aint got “it”.
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We don’t know this yet. Firing his buddy Knapp is a step in the right direction.
You are pointing out these franchises like Pitts, NE, NY, now point to one that fired 4 coaches in 5 years and then hired a GOOD coach.
Name ONE franchise… that even did this and ended up with an average one!!
Please people, stop being such knee jerk morons.
Dennis Allen is our coach for at least three years because Reggie in NOT a knee jerk moron.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:35 am
Lets see who they bring in…. That’s where we see how serious they are
December 31st, 2012 at 11:35 am
What a waste of a first year. In brighter news, Denarius Moore may have “returned” his last punt ever.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:35 am
Priesttj12 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:29 am
Priesttj12 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:25 am
I’m going to say this and I know it’s going to meet with a lot of acrimony. I really believe that DA and Knapp were trying to set Pryor up to fail. If not for Palmer maybe they even succeed. I don’t think it’s even a question that Pryor knows those two were never in his corner. The only reason Pryor had the success he did have was Palmer took him aside and essentially did Knapp’s job for him. He gave Pryor the tools he needed to succeed he broke down the game film and showed him how to attack them. Once DA and Knapp saw Pryor’s preparedness and leadership they said if we don’t help this kid it’s going to be very clear we didn’t want to. Knapp failed Pryor and DA tried to sabotage him. IOW’s DA did it intentionally and Knapp was just incompetent.
I think mark wants to get rid of DA, I think Reggie is begging for DA’s job. However he may not be able to save it if truth comes to light and DA gets exposed as dogging and scapegoating players. DA will be one and done…………..period
>. yeah yeah aren’t you the clown that said ” michael vick is better thaN jOHN ELWAY PERIOD!!! you HAVE NO BLOG credibilty.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:35 am
OK so 6 losses on Knapp, 3 on Palmer… LOL
DA was 4-3!!
December 31st, 2012 at 11:36 am
By all rights…this whole freakin staff should be sacked!
December 31st, 2012 at 11:36 am
How do you go from, TP is not ready to be our backup to, he is starting the last game????
December 31st, 2012 at 11:36 am
Knapp had to go as he did not produce. Good luck to him where ever he lands. He did his best.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:36 am
I can’t remember a Raider team .. Even 2006, that was harder to watch than this years Raiders…..painful…
December 31st, 2012 at 11:36 am
If you think Fangio is HC material, please leave. Im asking nicely.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:36 am
raiders will be improved next year when they draft a beast pass rusher with 3rd pick. pass rush specialist will do wonders for that defense.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:37 am
I hope the Raiders can get Whisenhunt as their next OC. Or bring back Hue Jax, yeah I said it.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:37 am
65.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:35 am
OK so 6 losses on Knapp, 3 on Palmer… LOL
DA was 4-3!!
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Way to salsa up that $h!t sandwich. I’ll eat it for one more year i guess
December 31st, 2012 at 11:37 am
fingers Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:36 am
I can’t remember a Raider team .. Even 2006, that was harder to watch than this years Raiders…..painful…
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This is one of the most inaccurate statements on a board full of them..
With all due respect.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:37 am
thank f’ing god !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 31st, 2012 at 11:37 am
So lemme get this straight , some guys want to get rid of DA for how he treated a guy who is a project at best, and was drafted in 3rd rd, who’s passing leaves a lot to be desired as evidenced by his throwing yesterday, but oh yeah he had lots of composure, poise and confidence back so lets fire our D minded rookie coach who didn’t use this ultra confident project player earlier
December 31st, 2012 at 11:37 am
strong arguments. There are a few head coaches That I can think of that trumps Allen coaching style. Remember Allen hired Knapp and his mind set was to go against the strengths of the team. Now Allen and Reggie must scrape that concept and start over. What a great luxury Coach Allen must have to tinker around with this team without having a clue of what strength are needed to make this team good today!!!!!!
4.John David Booty Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:19 am
Gdog Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 10:56 am
If you look at all the perennial playoff teams in the NFL right now, there are only TWO constants… everything else is nearly random.
1. They put a franchise QB in place and STICK WITH HIM.
2. They put a headstrong HC in place AND STICK WITH HIM.
Nothing else matters. This isn’t rocket science.
GB, NY, NE, Balt, NO, Pitts (ok, they faultered a bit this year but does anyone expect these two teams to not be back?)
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I agree with finding a GOOD head coach and sticking with him, just like those teams did.
GB. Mike McCarthy 1st season 2006: 8-8
GB record previous year: 4-12
Bill Belichicks 1st season vs DAs has been discussed on this blog AD NAUSEAUM, not in DAs favor either, feel free to backtrack.
Balt. Harbaugh 1st season: 11-5
Balt record previous year: 5-11
PITT Mike Tomlin 1st season 2007: 10-6
Previous season: 8-8
Dennis Allen: 4-12
Previous season: 8-8
Those teams found good coaches and stuck with them.
Youre right, thats what we should do. Find a good coach, and stick with him. Let me know when we find a good coach.
Dennis Allen is not McCarthy, Belichick, Harbaugh, or Tomlin.
Or Jackson, or Cable for that matter.
Dennis aint got “it”.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:37 am
The_Judge37 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:37 am
65.DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:35 am
OK so 6 losses on Knapp, 3 on Palmer… LOL
DA was 4-3!!
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Way to salsa up that $h!t sandwich. I’ll eat it for one more year i guess
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You want chips with that?
December 31st, 2012 at 11:37 am
51.Priesttj12 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:33 am
Mark please if you are reading this or anyone who is reading this.
Please do NOT fire Tarver he is NOT culpable in the mess, this is a very good young coach that we can biuld this defense around. I would much rather see DA get canned and keep this guy.
DA doghoused players and victimized players based on nothing more than assumptions.
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CB blitzes from 20 yards away, and the defense standing still while the good QBs diagnose them and then tears them apart is good coaching? Record amounts of points given up is good coaching?
smh
December 31st, 2012 at 11:37 am
What I find the most interesting here is Pollack being let go too. Excited to see what happens here.
Mistic-I really like your point about wanting to get someone that not only has a proven track record with a system, but shows that they can either adapt, or their system could be successful with what we have. Hindsight says it was a huge mistake on DA and Reggie’s part to completely overhaul with Knapp–hopefully we can see an adjustment to their plan that can change and improve at the same time. Whether or not the guys should take a leap of faith and center it around Pryor is a different discussion, but you are spot on with that thought, I think.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:38 am
My continuity Prediction under DA;
2012 4-12
2013 5-11
2014 6-10
December 31st, 2012 at 11:38 am
Born with a Patch Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:22 am
Repost
Born with a Patch Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:12 am
Knapp should be canned by the end of the day. Tarver didn’t do a great job but had alot of practice squad talent to work with. I say we replace Knapp with Tressel! Give Pryor some comfort in the Tressel type system and let him grow. He has the tools, he needs the backing. Everybody can agree that Palmer is not a long term solution, he was a reach to save last season. If we hadn’t spent so much on getting him, he’d prob be gone already. What you guys think? Rid Knapp, Keep Tarver and get him some NFL caliber players and hire Tressel
We all knew he’d be out today. Who do we bring in? No way Norv would come back and i wouldn’t want him back either. I’ll pass on Reid, he likes the WCO and couldn’t do anything with Vick. Whisenhunt might get another HC position.
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Who is Tressel? Where’s he from? Did you mean Mark Tressman?
December 31st, 2012 at 11:38 am
fingers Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:36 am
I can’t remember a Raider team .. Even 2006, that was harder to watch than this years Raiders…..painful…
>. you’re way off man. THST raider team was the joke of all time. bed and breakfast OC and washed has been as HC. this team will turn around soon. IF RM has any ability
December 31st, 2012 at 11:38 am
Dakota Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:26 am
20.John David Booty Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:24 am
Knapp sucked.
But he should not take the fall for the whole team being bad.
Hoffman was equally as bad.
Frank Pollack needs to go right behind Knapp.
Tarvers defense gave up 443 points. The most since 1961.
And this whole mess starts from the top. Dennis Allen has to go. Reggie, Mark you know good and well Dennis Allen is not going to get you a Lombardi trophy. Lets cut our losses, regroup, and upgrade.
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I agree 100%
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It’s amazing how guys here can sound so smart sometimes and lucid, and then at other times just seem to not have a clue. I’m not a DA fan. Not yet. And knapp was his pick, so I blame him for that. And Reggie may be clueless, not sure about that yet either.
BUT WE CAN’T JUST KEEP FIRING HEAD COACHES AFTER 1 YEAR!!! That’s al Davis thinking, and look where that got us? We will never be the raiders of old again. Gone r the days that we pick up projects and try to make them our own. And I’m gonna miss that honestly. One positive thing Al Davis probably would have done was pick up Burfect. No way Reggie would ever pick up a guy like that. So that kinda sucks.
But you don’t win without consistent leadership. PERIOD. Maybe it’ll blow up in our faces, like I said, I’m not even particularly confident myself, but holy crap!!! Every regime needs at least 2 or 3 years to have a chance to get it right, especially when your roster was in as bad a shape as ours and we had as much turnover in the front office and coaching staff as any other team on history in one year.
Just stfu and get behind what we got. Knapp is gone, never should have been back in the first place. Lets move on and see what happens.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:38 am
63.kellygreenninja Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:35 am
What a waste of a first year. In brighter news, Denarius Moore may have “returned” his last punt ever.
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Equally sad news, Shane Lechler might have kicked his last punt as a Raider
December 31st, 2012 at 11:38 am
Knapp gone.
DA gone.
Reggie gone.
Now we only have another two years to go before DA knows what the hell he is doing and we can start winning again.
McFadden showed his biggest weakness in his game all year long — The guy can’t make a cut.
TP made a good showing in the final game, but still has work to be done. May as well start him next year and he can grow with DA into something worth keeping.
Weaknesses are in wide receivers and defense in general.
Raiders are a project and we’ll be lucky to be 8-8 next year with no chance for the playoffs. (I would actually be happy with that.)
December 31st, 2012 at 11:38 am
Thec Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:36 am
How do you go from, TP is not ready to be our backup to, he is starting the last game????
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Because Lienart will be kicked out the door with his buddy Knapp, so why not give the guy who will come back next year some chances?
December 31st, 2012 at 11:38 am
All right Reggie, now it’s time to fire DA either that or your both gone next year.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:38 am
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:19 am
FIRE REGGIE NOW.
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And replace with who?
December 31st, 2012 at 11:38 am
FIRE CORK!
December 31st, 2012 at 11:39 am
Correction to 86 above.
Knapp gone – check
DA gone – check back in Dec. 2013
Reggie gone – check back in Dec. 2014.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:39 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:36 am
If you think Fangio is HC material, please leave. Im asking nicely.
To answer you, no, I don’t know too much about Fangio to know that,and no, I will not leave! DA is staying unless we all get shocked in a day or two and I was just asking a question!
December 31st, 2012 at 11:39 am
Please make Saunders our OC or hire Norv. Thank you.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:39 am
Priesttj12 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:25 am
I’m going to say this and I know it’s going to meet with a lot of acrimony. I really believe that DA and Knapp were trying to set Pryor up to fail. If not for Palmer maybe they even succeed. I don’t think it’s even a question that Pryor knows those two were never in his corner. The only reason Pryor had the success he did have was Palmer took him aside and essentially did Knapp’s job for him. He gave Pryor the tools he needed to succeed he broke down the game film and showed him how to attack them. Once DA and Knapp saw Pryor’s preparedness and leadership they said if we don’t help this kid it’s going to be very clear we didn’t want to. Knapp failed Pryor and DA tried to sabotage him. IOW’s DA did it intentionally and Knapp was just incompetent
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Dr_robert Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:36 am
Priest–ur either retarded or mentally ill. U really believe all that happened? And u act like u know it. Like u were there. I feel sorry for u pal. U need to see a doctor. Not me. A real one. U have paranoid schizophrenia I think.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:40 am
bring back the vertical offense and get the defense an elite pass rusher in the first round and this team will tease 9-7 next year. PERIOD!!!hahahaha
December 31st, 2012 at 11:40 am
YES!!!!
Keep RUNDMC, d$mint! Now that Knapp is gone. Still like Darren, yes he’s been hurt a lot, but the guy is a player. Doesn’t take downs “off” and plays with heart and drive. I hope we keep him. Get him back to his old form next season. Hell, he should be extremely fresh after this past season.
Question…Does Omar Gaither remain a Raider??
December 31st, 2012 at 11:40 am
No, I think Mark Davis has already put in a cal to Norv Turner to be the OC for this team and Saunders the advance scout and gameplanning assistant.
That is what Mark should do………….
Also Reggie should be put on notice that his responsibilty will be reduced bring in someone to mentor him.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:40 am
They won’t fire DA got three years left on his contract
it takes four years to build a franchise from nothing the only faster way to do it is to free agency and that’s expensive and they’re good for about two years it’s better to do it to the draft I knew that assessed special teams coach was going to get fired DA was in his face yesterday when San Diego run that one back I thought DA was in his face
the defensive coordinator will not get f fired DAs puppet DA runs the defense
December 31st, 2012 at 11:40 am
Sup Hwnrdr. Long time no chat. Been so busy with my new home. I feel bad for you attending all the games this season. Onto 2013. Knapp is gone so we can celebrate NYE tonite.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:41 am
Now we know for sure Mark Davis forced Pryor on DA.period
December 31st, 2012 at 11:41 am
I won’t be satisfied until Mark Davis has a power point presentation to highlight Knapp’s suckiness.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:41 am
hwnrdr Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:39 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:36 am
If you think Fangio is HC material, please leave. Im asking nicely.
To answer you, no, I don’t know too much about Fangio to know that,and no, I will not leave! DA is staying unless we all get shocked in a day or two and I was just asking a question!
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LOL..
December 31st, 2012 at 11:41 am
riderm Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:40 am
YES!!!!
Keep RUNDMC, d$mint! Now that Knapp is gone. Still like Darren, yes he’s been hurt a lot, but the guy is a player. Doesn’t take downs “off” and plays with heart and drive. I hope we keep him. Get him back to his old form next season. Hell, he should be extremely fresh after this past season.
Question…Does Omar Gaither remain a Raider??
>> gaither looks like a legit MLB. WOW been a while. better keep him
December 31st, 2012 at 11:42 am
BUT WE CAN’T JUST KEEP FIRING HEAD COACHES AFTER 1 YEAR!!
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FINALLY someone gets it!!
You can’t bring in a premier SB-ready HC if you fire 5 head coaches in 4 years (or whatever its been!)
Why?
Common sense… NOBODY WANTS TO WORK HERE! Not if you can get fired after one year.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:42 am
Priesttj12 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:41 am
Now we know for sure Mark Davis forced Pryor on DA.period
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I think it looks more like DA forced Pryor on Knapp.
The way Pryor talked up Knapp after the game was kinda like a “How you like me now”…
December 31st, 2012 at 11:42 am
Priesttj12 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:41 am
Now we know for sure Mark Davis forced Pryor on DA.period
>. and we all know that Michael Vick is better than john Elway… PERIOD!!!hahahaha YOUR QUOTE BTW
December 31st, 2012 at 11:43 am
Manassamauler…. You better read my post again…. I said… I can’t remember a team harder to watch than this one..::: … Unless you enjoyed it or can think of a worse Raider team…. I’m not talking record…
December 31st, 2012 at 11:43 am
Before we condem DA even more let’s remember that few rookie HC’s have to go into a busted organisation like the Raiders are. C’mon and get real. The Raiders have been crap for ten years. I am not sure about DA and he made a few odd decisions this year but any new coach was always going to struggle. Before all the Hue followers chip in we had an easy schedule last year….
December 31st, 2012 at 11:43 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:29 am
People throwing out coaching names should remember it isnt simply about hiring a coach that has produced with their system.
This is about getting at least an oc that can do something with the talent we have now!!!
Guys like moore streetr dhb, ford reece and dmac are enough to cause problems for any defense in the right offense. See 2010-2011 raider offense and hu jack/ suanders.
Most important is PRYOR. Im sure he has big mack and davis ready for more.
get an oc that can utilize pryor with all of our speedsters and we could be a 30 point per week offense.
Case and point. Yesterday suddenly the boootleg action opened running lanes in the interior allowing dmac to run down hill. Dmac should have carried 30 times not 19, he may have been around 100 yards, or even broken a long one.
Dmac and Pryor compliment one another in a way he and palmer never have.
We need an oc that can recognize this and implement a system that causes the most stress and hesitation in the defense.
Did you see the play fake and boot leg td by pryor?!?! he fooled the d end line backer and db!!!
He put enough on tape that any creative mind will jump at the chance to be an oc here.
Big mack the onus is on you at this moment. If you dont fire allen (i think you should for his treatment of pryor for one) make sure you hire an oc that builds with pryor as the center peice
guys like turner and some of the other names i have seen dont teach the offense that pryor should be running, and could only be effective if they are willing to add to thier own playbook the way bevel in seattle and shanahn in washington have done.
The wave of the future is now wearing silver and black
impostor fans chew and swallow
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pryor will never be a starting qb in the nfl. yesterday proved that, and ur so delusional u think he wowed the world. if u think he’s a good qb, then u have utterly no idea about how to evaluate a qb. of course, we already knew that.
hey, who are ut top top5 qb’s in the draft? top ten? i wonder if they’re all black.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:44 am
so now DA is compared to Mike Tomlin and Harbaugh ? who did they take over? oh Yeah they took over Pitts which won a SB a few years ago and 1 took over a team that was in top 5 D every year
December 31st, 2012 at 11:44 am
No good former HC or elite assistant will want to come to Oakland and work under an incompetent HC. Only scrubs, undesireable and or desperados will be willing to work under an inexperienced, undeserving, self serving, weasal like Allen
December 31st, 2012 at 11:44 am
this is actually BAD news..because it might mean that DA is staying as head coach. more disappointing..since Jon Gruden has just gone public saying he IS coming back to coaching and will interview for open positions. according to NFL.com. I do no have not liked DA since day 1. his demeanor has rubbed me the wrong way. Him Hiring Knapp in the first place was a colossal and unforgivable mistake. Seems as if EVERYONE other than him and Reggie (who shouldnt have allowed the hire) knew it would be. Add to the fact their BUTCHERING of roster…(A. Curry , DVD..no playing time for chekwa… not playing Pryor the last 3 weeks) and his constant blaming of the lack of talent on a team who was a couple injuries and a real Defensive coordinator from being 11-5 last year. he needs to go..HIRE CHUCKY..or ANYONE else immediately
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THIS!!!!!!!!
December 31st, 2012 at 11:44 am
I wish it could happen in October but better late than never.Now hire a power blocking oc and fire Allen he didn’t do any better than chuck b.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:44 am
Duh… Fire Reggie… derp derp…
December 31st, 2012 at 11:45 am
>> gaither looks like a legit MLB. WOW been a while. better keep him
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finally watched a Raider game yesterday after 2 months. Yeah, he looked pretty smooth out there. In one game, he did more than 55 did the last 2 seasons. I actually saw Gaither alerted the team before a play and shot the gap to stop battle in the back field. Can’t remember the last time our MLB shot the game and got someone behind the LOS.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:45 am
110.mcfadden20. Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:44 am
so now DA is compared to Mike Tomlin and Harbaugh ? who did they take over? oh Yeah they took over Pitts which won a SB a few years ago and 1 took over a team that was in top 5 D every year
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Like SF, DA just had to come in and fix one side of the ball. Instead he went Josh McDaniels on us and regressed both sides.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:45 am
I think it looks more like DA forced Pryor on Knapp.
The way Pryor talked up Knapp after the game was kinda like a “How you like me now”…
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Disagree, DA knows nothing about the offense. Mark said he had ideas about QB.
DA wanted nothing to do with TP starting.
He stated a week prior that, TP is not ready to be the backup.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:45 am
fingers Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:43 am
Manassamauler…. You better read my post again…. I said… I can’t remember a team harder to watch than this one..::: … Unless you enjoyed it or can think of a worse Raider team…. I’m not talking record…
>. i disagree man. palmer made some great throws this year, big plays down the field, had some good games from DMC, reese. this team was a lot easier to watch. 2006 team was way worse to watch. brooks and that andrew walter !!!! randy moss jogging around. no comparison
December 31st, 2012 at 11:45 am
WEASAL!
That is fitting for Dennis.
Weasal Tits!
December 31st, 2012 at 11:46 am
Gdog Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:42 am
BUT WE CAN’T JUST KEEP FIRING HEAD COACHES AFTER 1 YEAR!!
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FINALLY someone gets it!!
You can’t bring in a premier SB-ready HC if you fire 5 head coaches in 4 years (or whatever its been!)
Why?
Common sense… NOBODY WANTS TO WORK HERE! Not if you can get fired after one year.
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You’d think more people would understand this. Al’s capriciousness really poisoned an entire generation of fans.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:46 am
“Decisions like this are very difficult,” Allen said. “I have a great deal of respect for all of these men and I appreciate their contributions to the Oakland Raiders this season.”
Yeah F!, this sounds like DA is staying but i hope Reggie holds DA accountable for his coaching hires and FIRES DA. Oh and the 2-14 record.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:46 am
Ominous words by Mark about the Hue firing.
Reggie came in, and Mark admitted he could’ve fought for Hue’s retention but didn’t feel he deserved it.
That’s Hue going 1-4 at the end.
What Allen has done this season far worse, and when you factor in what Priestt said before about sabotaging Pryor, or at the very minimum, Allen thumbing his nose at Mark/Reggie wanting to see Pryor (that whole Allen flip-flop last week), then Allen is in trouble imo.
Mark won’t fight for Allen. Mark is owner and check-payer. He has a lot of other reasons why he can’t be patient — stadium issues, blackouts, etc.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:46 am
Ignorant Homers.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:47 am
Opps 4-12 record which could have been an easy 2-14
December 31st, 2012 at 11:47 am
For DA to just sit and watch Knapp destroy this offense is the reason I named that fool the double agent. I still feel he is NOT HC material, he is a DC at best he is NOT a leader of men and with him at the helm this org. will suffer……period
December 31st, 2012 at 11:47 am
And we know this how?
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Priesttj12 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:41 am
Now we know for sure Mark Davis forced Pryor on DA.period
December 31st, 2012 at 11:47 am
JB Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:38 am
Born with a Patch Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:22 am
Repost
Born with a Patch Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:12 am
Knapp should be canned by the end of the day. Tarver didn’t do a great job but had alot of practice squad talent to work with. I say we replace Knapp with Tressel! Give Pryor some comfort in the Tressel type system and let him grow. He has the tools, he needs the backing. Everybody can agree that Palmer is not a long term solution, he was a reach to save last season. If we hadn’t spent so much on getting him, he’d prob be gone already. What you guys think? Rid Knapp, Keep Tarver and get him some NFL caliber players and hire Tressel
We all knew he’d be out today. Who do we bring in? No way Norv would come back and i wouldn’t want him back either. I’ll pass on Reid, he likes the WCO and couldn’t do anything with Vick. Whisenhunt might get another HC position.
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Who is Tressel? Where’s he from? Did you mean Mark Tressman?
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Jim Tressel. Coached Terrelle at Ohio State. He’s a consultant i believe for the colts right now
December 31st, 2012 at 11:47 am
I actually wouldn’t mind Chan Gailey as OC, he kind of like Norv.
A much better play caller than a HC.
If Gailey runs the ZBS though, he will not be a good fit.
Norv should definitely be looked at though as the new OC.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:47 am
Priesttj12 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:40 am
No, I think Mark Davis has already put in a cal to Norv Turner to be the OC for this team and Saunders the advance scout and gameplanning assistant.
That is what Mark should do………….
Also Reggie should be put on notice that his responsibilty will be reduced bring in someone to mentor him.
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You think turner will come here?
December 31st, 2012 at 11:47 am
I hope San Diego hires Knapp as their head coach. =)
December 31st, 2012 at 11:47 am
MistaBrown Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:47 am
And we know this how?
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Priesttj12 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:41 am
Now we know for sure Mark Davis forced Pryor on DA.period
>> we know this because its fun to say ….PERIOD after you make a stupid point!!!!
December 31st, 2012 at 11:47 am
Question is now does Reggie step in and make the OC hire, or give DA a second chance to hire his own staff? I think the guy needs help
December 31st, 2012 at 11:48 am
With a Real OC DMac will be back to being a beast next season. For how many games? We’ll have to wait and see, but he will be a beast again.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:48 am
Gdog Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:42 am
BUT WE CAN’T JUST KEEP FIRING HEAD COACHES AFTER 1 YEAR!!
>>>
FINALLY someone gets it!!
You can’t bring in a premier SB-ready HC if you fire 5 head coaches in 4 years (or whatever its been!)
Why?
Common sense… NOBODY WANTS TO WORK HERE! Not if you can get fired after one year.
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I understand what youre saying here. I really do. And I cant say that I disagree 100%. Trust me.
But Im sorry, man. I just cant buy Dennis Allen another year. HE is just not THAT GUY. Youre telling me that if there is a clear opportunity to upgrade over Dennis Allen, you wouldnt take it? I dont believe that, man. I dont believe that you really feel that Dennis Allen is that special.
I get what youre saying. I just feel that Dennis Allen has been THAT bad.
I want continuity too. But not in the WRONG direction. This guy just doesnt have it to me.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:48 am
I don’t think DA or Knapp wanted to give the kid Pryor a chance either. I think he should compete for #1 but I think at this point realistically he is a # 2. Pryor appear to have his head on straight and is eager to learn. I like those traits in him.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:48 am
This defense was like have your toenails pulled out just watching them try and tackle… Or stop a pass…..
December 31st, 2012 at 11:48 am
The_Judge37 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:45 am
110.mcfadden20. Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:44 am
so now DA is compared to Mike Tomlin and Harbaugh ? who did they take over? oh Yeah they took over Pitts which won a SB a few years ago and 1 took over a team that was in top 5 D every year
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Like SF, DA just had to come in and fix one side of the ball. Instead he went Josh McDaniels on us and regressed both sides.
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Fix one side ?> are you freaking kidding with me? the guy who was ranked # 16 last year was fired, you wanted to bring him back? the guy who was OC , was not even hired by KC Chiefs of all the teams, and how was DA going to turn that D into something in 1 year, I’m pretty sure you followed the D since 2003 and you knew it pretty well it was going to take a miracle to turn that D into a decent unit in 1 year? No?
December 31st, 2012 at 11:48 am
Basically, only the DC is retained on the staff, 2/3 of your main coordinators are gone, and Junior gets a pass from the ZarMac, why? Is it a money matter? A basement bargain deal?
Junior’s only redeeming value is his ability to robocoach speak with the best, no problems, he’s spinning around the tame Bay Area media.
LoNeal just repeated on TV that he doesn’t believe Junior has the capacity to lead men. Yet, the ZarMac keeps his pet project for another go around. Can you imagine if the Raiders decide to bring former head coaches as coordinators? Can you imagine Junior looking over the shoulder of Whisenhunt or Nerd?
Junior is the worst HC the Raiders have ever had, yet he gets a pass, what a shame!
December 31st, 2012 at 11:48 am
DKnight007 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:47 am
I actually wouldn’t mind Chan Gailey as OC, he kind of like Norv.
A much better play caller than a HC.
If Gailey runs the ZBS though, he will not be a good fit.
Norv should definitely be looked at though as the new OC.
>> with our WRs doesn’t it seem that a vertical offense is just common sense. moore and DHB were busters this year.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:48 am
124.RaidO Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:47 am
Opps 4-12 record which could have been an easy 2-14
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At least the Chiefs sucked hard this year
December 31st, 2012 at 11:49 am
It’d be funny if DA did get fired because Reggie in ONE year would’ve fired two HCs.
Al gave Kiffin and Cable two years, and Hue would certainly have gotten two years minimum.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:49 am
You cry babies can whine and throw out your ridiculous conspiracy theories all you want.Allen will coach the Raiders next year whether you like it or not.LMAO
December 31st, 2012 at 11:49 am
Dr_robert Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:39 am
Priesttj12 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:25 am
I’m going to say this and I know it’s going to meet with a lot of acrimony. I really believe that DA and Knapp were trying to set Pryor up to fail. If not for Palmer maybe they even succeed. I don’t think it’s even a question that Pryor knows those two were never in his corner. The only reason Pryor had the success he did have was Palmer took him aside and essentially did Knapp’s job for him. He gave Pryor the tools he needed to succeed he broke down the game film and showed him how to attack them. Once DA and Knapp saw Pryor’s preparedness and leadership they said if we don’t help this kid it’s going to be very clear we didn’t want to. Knapp failed Pryor and DA tried to sabotage him. IOW’s DA did it intentionally and Knapp was just incompetent
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Dr_robert Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:36 am
Priest–ur either retarded or mentally ill. U really believe all that happened? And u act like u know it. Like u were there. I feel sorry for u pal. U need to see a doctor. Not me. A real one. U have paranoid schizophrenia I think.
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Hahahaha. Yea. Priest is the same guy that said last night that mark Davis has always respected Andy Reid and would jump at the chance to get him and that Mark actually proposed this to Andy over coffee. He says it happens all the time.
Maybe it does, but mostly only in his own mind.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:49 am
fingers Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:48 am
This defense was like have your toenails pulled out just watching them try and tackle… Or stop a pass…..
>. couple of beast pass rushers in the draft that can fix that
December 31st, 2012 at 11:49 am
Most important is Pryor??/
The guy is still learning how to throw a football, for crying out loud.
He needs to spend the off season throwing a million balls from all angles. Working on his throwing platform. Body mechanics. Needs a QB guru working with him full time.
He can’t expect to last in the NFL throwing wobbly flutter balls in the general vicinity of receivers.
He’s an athletic project that deserves to get another year on the roster to see if he can step it up and get it.
Nothing more than that….
December 31st, 2012 at 11:50 am
Fix one side ?> are you freaking kidding with me? the guy who was ranked # 16 last year was fired, you wanted to bring him back? the guy who was OC , was not even hired by KC Chiefs of all the teams, and how was DA going to turn that D into something in 1 year, I’m pretty sure you followed the D since 2003 and you knew it pretty well it was going to take a miracle to turn that D into a decent unit in 1 year? No?
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Just improve the D. Didn’t have to go top 5 in one year, but just improvment without destroying the offense.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:50 am
125.Priesttj12 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:47 am
For DA to just sit and watch Knapp destroy this offense is the reason I named that fool the double agent. I still feel he is NOT HC material, he is a DC at best he is NOT a leader of men and with him at the helm this org. will suffer……period
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Agreed.
I would take Del Rio as the HC with Norv as his OC anyday of the week ahead of DA as HC in name only. Del Rio has Bay Area roots, was a Raider fan growing up and would get this team pumped and ready to play our division rivals and beat them!
DA is not a leader of men.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:50 am
If they don’t fire DA this year he’ll be fired next year he’s just not a HC……….period
It doesn’t mean he’s bad person it simply means he doesn’t know how to get the best out the talent available to him he has a bunch issues dealing with people.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:50 am
should bring tom cable back as a “motivational” consultant for the coaches and players.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:50 am
Get Wylie and Wiz 2.0 on the phone now. Give them bags of $$ to come back and fix this mess. Holland gets canned becuase getting rid of Tarver would make DA look bad. Remember all of these assistants are DA’s hires and DA’s failures. Good news is that Saunders is still in the building.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:51 am
Ben McAdoo will be the next Raiders OC. It’s my sleeper pick but I think it’s the right fit. Maybe something Reggie had in his back pocket all along.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:51 am
135..for me… I think I saw enough of Pryor believe he could develope into an NFL Qb…he needs more reps… I’d agree with a # 2 status
December 31st, 2012 at 11:51 am
Harbaugh took over a top 3 unit on D, so changing that would have been stupid, DA simple took over a bottom 5 D and bottom 15 O , not top 5 O, so what if he freaking couldn’t rehire Hue or hire a guy Al Saunders, who is like 100 years old, n might have had nothing to do with that #16 O last year anyways
December 31st, 2012 at 11:51 am
RaiderDuck Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:46 am
Gdog Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:42 am
BUT WE CAN’T JUST KEEP FIRING HEAD COACHES AFTER 1 YEAR!!
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FINALLY someone gets it!!
You can’t bring in a premier SB-ready HC if you fire 5 head coaches in 4 years (or whatever its been!)
Why?
Common sense… NOBODY WANTS TO WORK HERE! Not if you can get fired after one year.
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You’d think more people would understand this. Al’s capriciousness really poisoned an entire generation of fans.
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It was Al’s worst trait hands down. And I bet a ton of people now wanting DA’s head on a pike also wanted Als on a pike. Irony.
I, for one, am glad we no longer have a knee-jerk GM that thinks HC’s are dispensable in the NFL.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:51 am
R Seymour, you have done nothing since becoming a Raider. Pack your FK’n bags you overrated check cashing thief!
GTFO!
December 31st, 2012 at 11:52 am
A worse team than this !!!!!!!!ARTshall AND the bed-and-breakfast now there was a bad TEM have you ever thought about this they put Prior out there so that have some tape on HEM we might get our third round pick back somebody out there will pick him up
December 31st, 2012 at 11:52 am
22.The_Judge37 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:24 am
Just got back from a Cigarette break, told the homeless man that begs for cash outside work that Greg Knapp got fired. He said, “So there is a God”, we embraced for a few minutes, then cried, then laughed, then i told him i don’t have any chance, and he told me to Fk off.
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Hahahaha. You are a funny mother f’er.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:52 am
149.manassamauler Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:50 am
should bring tom cable back as a “motivational” consultant for the coaches and players.
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If he was unemployed, sure, i could see him coming back. But no reason for him to leave his gig in seattle for what would be a demotion
December 31st, 2012 at 11:53 am
Manassuamauler… Agree…. Pass rusher is a must… As well as a good corner or two
December 31st, 2012 at 11:53 am
The_Judge37 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:52 am
149.manassamauler Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:50 am
should bring tom cable back as a “motivational” consultant for the coaches and players.
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If he was unemployed, sure, i could see him coming back. But no reason for him to leave his gig in seattle for what would be a demotion
>. just joking, Cable could jawcap the coaches when they fuk up though.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:53 am
lol Whisenhunt 45-51 in 6 seasons is winningest HC in their 80 year history.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:53 am
The_Judge37 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:50 am
Fix one side ?> are you freaking kidding with me? the guy who was ranked # 16 last year was fired, you wanted to bring him back? the guy who was OC , was not even hired by KC Chiefs of all the teams, and how was DA going to turn that D into something in 1 year, I’m pretty sure you followed the D since 2003 and you knew it pretty well it was going to take a miracle to turn that D into a decent unit in 1 year? No?
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Just improve the D. Didn’t have to go top 5 in one year, but just improvment without destroying the offense.
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How was he suppose to continue with the offense when he was hired so late, without many options to hire people, was he suppose to bring back Hue? n come on man O was bottom 15, 22ppg not like top 5 or 3 unit like Harbaugh took over on D, and all he needed was to get his O to work a little better
December 31st, 2012 at 11:54 am
lefty12 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:49 am
You cry babies can whine and throw out your ridiculous conspiracy theories all you want.Allen will coach the Raiders next year whether you like it or not.LMAO
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St least you hope so, Lefty12 if you cna’t see this guy is not a HC then you don’t have the bets interest of the Raiders at heart. It’s clear this guy mishandled this team and caused the regression. Why are you clinging to this idiot??
December 31st, 2012 at 11:54 am
And LOL at everyone whining about how the Raiders weren’t doing anything today. Two coordinators and two other assistants fired before noon on the day after the season ends.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:54 am
You guys have no problems typing “manassmauler”.
smh
December 31st, 2012 at 11:54 am
153.mcfadden20. Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:51 am
Harbaugh took over a top 3 unit on D, so changing that would have been stupid, DA simple took over a bottom 5 D and bottom 15 O , not top 5 O, so what if he freaking couldn’t rehire Hue or hire a guy Al Saunders, who is like 100 years old, n might have had nothing to do with that #16 O last year anyways
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You’re right, blow it all up and start from rank 32 on both sides.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:54 am
Romanowskis…. Sign Norv right now….. Lol… He just said that
December 31st, 2012 at 11:54 am
RaiderDuck Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:46 am
Gdog Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:42 am
BUT WE CAN’T JUST KEEP FIRING HEAD COACHES AFTER 1 YEAR!!
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FINALLY someone gets it!!
You can’t bring in a premier SB-ready HC if you fire 5 head coaches in 4 years (or whatever its been!)
Why?
Common sense… NOBODY WANTS TO WORK HERE! Not if you can get fired after one year.
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You’d think more people would understand this. Al’s capriciousness really poisoned an entire generation of fans.
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Remind me again, what was Reggie McKenzies very first move as General Manager of the Oakland Raiders?
Shut that “good orgs dont fire hc’s, etc…” sh!t up. Its nonsense. Bad coaches get fired. You know what else? Good coaches get fired. You want proof? Check the news. Coaches are being fired EVERYWHERE. By respected franchises in cases.
The bottom line is, there are exactly 32 head coaching jobs in the NFL, and if you arent cuttin it, someone will be more than happy to take your place.
But you need to stop with that we cant fire coaches sh!t. Its a myth.
BAD coaches deserve to be fired.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:55 am
MiamiRaider78 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:47 am
I hope San Diego hires Knapp as their head coach. =)
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Knapp will be considered as very fortunate if he lands anywhere in the NFL again. His track record ISN’T!
December 31st, 2012 at 11:55 am
Funny, right Seymour ?
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RaiderDuck Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:54 am
And LOL at everyone whining about how the Raiders weren’t doing anything today. Two coordinators and two other assistants fired before noon on the day after the season ends.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:55 am
actually Tom Cable as an OC wouldn’t be bad either, now there’s a guy who gets his units inspired and want players to play for him
December 31st, 2012 at 11:55 am
How was he suppose to continue with the offense when he was hired so late, without many options to hire people, was he suppose to bring back Hue? n come on man O was bottom 15, 22ppg not like top 5 or 3 unit like Harbaugh took over on D, and all he needed was to get his O to work a little better
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If you’re going to settle, then settle for Al Saunders, not Greg Knapp
December 31st, 2012 at 11:55 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:37 am
So lemme get this straight , some guys want to get rid of DA for how he treated a guy who is a project at best, and was drafted in 3rd rd, who’s passing leaves a lot to be desired as evidenced by his throwing yesterday, but oh yeah he had lots of composure, poise and confidence back so lets fire our D minded rookie coach who didn’t use this ultra confident project player earlier
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LOL what a hater
You realize that he accounted for 3 tds in his first nfl start, with less than 50% of his first, starting qb practice reps?!?!?!
You realize he only turned it over once, and was in perfact command of the offense. He didnt have to burn time outs in the red zone like plamer, or have any procedure penalties.
He hasnt started a game since thew sugar bowl 2 years ago??!?
LOL palmer missed half a season and has played like dog shidd ever since.
THE WAVE OF THE FUTURE OWNS YOU!!!!
December 31st, 2012 at 11:55 am
MistaBrown Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:51 am
R Seymour, you have done nothing since becoming a Raider. Pack your FK’n bags you overrated check cashing thief!
GTFO!
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With a kick in the ass.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:56 am
171.mcfadden20. Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:55 am
actually Tom Cable as an OC wouldn’t be bad either, now there’s a guy who gets his units inspired and want players to play for him
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No, Nothing memorable from Tom’s Playcalling other than the fact it was still better than KNapps
December 31st, 2012 at 11:56 am
DA’s quick change of “wording”= (less than 24 hours) on TP shows some nonsense was going on with the situation. DA lied and BS’ed.
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Yeah, no sh*t….. Now, TP didn’t come in and light it up, and I didn’t expect him to. But he looked more comfortable than he did in preseason, and actually put some points on the board, and kept drives going. I think he definately showed that he could be the back-up. I wouldn’t say Carson is in jeopordy next year but…. Pryor has been undersold, and undercut all year, for sure. I took this game as “We keep Pryor, or cut/trade him” after his outing……I’m in the “Keep him” camp right now.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:57 am
Gdog Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:51 am
RaiderDuck Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:46 am
Gdog Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:42 am
BUT WE CAN’T JUST KEEP FIRING HEAD COACHES AFTER 1 YEAR!!
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FINALLY someone gets it!!
You can’t bring in a premier SB-ready HC if you fire 5 head coaches in 4 years (or whatever its been!)
Why?
Common sense… NOBODY WANTS TO WORK HERE! Not if you can get fired after one year.
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You’d think more people would understand this. Al’s capriciousness really poisoned an entire generation of fans.
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It was Al’s worst trait hands down. And I bet a ton of people now wanting DA’s head on a pike also wanted Als on a pike. Irony.
I, for one, am glad we no longer have a knee-jerk GM that thinks HC’s are dispensable in the NFL.
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One more time, can anyone please tell me what Reggie McKenzie’s FIRST and FOREMOST move and decision was when he became the GM of the Oakland Raiders?
December 31st, 2012 at 11:57 am
Tom Cable wasn’t a good play caller at all!
December 31st, 2012 at 11:57 am
aig-raiders Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:40 am
Sup Hwnrdr. Long time no chat. Been so busy with my new home. I feel bad for you attending all the games this season. Onto 2013. Knapp is gone so we can celebrate NYE tonite.
No worries…seen at least one good one!
December 31st, 2012 at 11:57 am
I quess this meands Allen stays. Unless his conference is to thank everyone for the opportunity that didn’t work out. lol
December 31st, 2012 at 11:57 am
Priesttj12 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:54 am
lefty12 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:49 am
You cry babies can whine and throw out your ridiculous conspiracy theories all you want.Allen will coach the Raiders next year whether you like it or not.LMAO
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St least you hope so, Lefty12 if you cna’t see this guy is not a HC then you don’t have the bets interest of the Raiders at heart. It’s clear this guy mishandled this team and caused the regression. Why are you clinging to this idiot??
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Oh he mishandled a guy who was project at best coming into the NFL ,? so lets fire him , or is it because he hired Greg Knapp cuz he had no body else to hire? lemme see good coaches were waiting for jobs late january/ early febraury, give me a freaking break man
December 31st, 2012 at 11:57 am
RaiderDuck/Seymour Bush
Tell us again how R Seymour is a stud pro-bowler HOF’er.
#dum dik
December 31st, 2012 at 11:58 am
Bring back Hue Jax as OC.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:58 am
One more time, can anyone please tell me what Reggie McKenzie’s FIRST and FOREMOST move and decision was when he became the GM of the Oakland Raiders?
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Order donuts?
Fire the HC
December 31st, 2012 at 11:58 am
John David Booty Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:57 am
One more time, can anyone please tell me what Reggie McKenzie’s FIRST and FOREMOST move and decision was when he became the GM of the Oakland Raiders?
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He fired Hue Jackson, on orders from Mark Davis.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:59 am
DA is about to take the mic.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:59 am
While DA will dodge the bullet this year, he will certainly be on notice that his job will be fair game next year if he doesn’t excel. I would go as far as to say that he will need to make the playoffs next year in order to continue as HC for another year.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:59 am
Short visit to the Raider Nation. May all have a healthy and prosperous New Year.
FIRE ALLEN!!!
December 31st, 2012 at 11:59 am
The_Judge37 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:55 am
How was he suppose to continue with the offense when he was hired so late, without many options to hire people, was he suppose to bring back Hue? n come on man O was bottom 15, 22ppg not like top 5 or 3 unit like Harbaugh took over on D, and all he needed was to get his O to work a little better
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If you’re going to settle, then settle for Al Saunders, not Greg Knapp
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Settle for Al Saunders, do you even know if Al saunders even wanted to be a OC , the guy freakin settled as a consultant for crying out loud, not like he was some genius or something, he’s been fired from as many jobs as knapp last 5 years
December 31st, 2012 at 11:59 am
154.Gdog Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:51 am
RaiderDuck Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:46 am
Gdog Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:42 am
BUT WE CAN’T JUST KEEP FIRING HEAD COACHES AFTER 1 YEAR!!
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FINALLY someone gets it!!
You can’t bring in a premier SB-ready HC if you fire 5 head coaches in 4 years (or whatever its been!)
Why?
Common sense… NOBODY WANTS TO WORK HERE! Not if you can get fired after one year.
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You’d think more people would understand this. Al’s capriciousness really poisoned an entire generation of fans.
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It was Al’s worst trait hands down. And I bet a ton of people now wanting DA’s head on a pike also wanted Als on a pike. Irony.
I, for one, am glad we no longer have a knee-jerk GM that thinks HC’s are dispensable in the NFL.
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THAT is why I wanted them to stick with Hue.
It’s true u can’t keep firing HC’s every year, but u can’t stick with a HC who you know is gonna take you nowhere either.
DA failed horribly in hiring Knapp in the first place…now today he owns up to it. THAT was a big deal hring Knapp and it turns out to be a critical error which cost DMAC an entire season.
I won’t go as far as to say it cost the org. an entire season, but a case could be made for that.
I’m ok with giving DA another shot, but he should be on a short leash imo.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:59 am
Is Vick better than Elway still?
December 31st, 2012 at 11:59 am
So, as we’re still waiting for details and other sunstance.
Supposedly, the defense “finished strong” then Tarver and Junior (both defensive minded coaches) are rewarded and remain on the team.
Just how many points the Raiders gave up, where does the defense rank in the league?
December 31st, 2012 at 11:59 am
Every coach that deserved to be fired was fired. Good sign.
Now on to the player launch list: Kelly, Seymour, McClain, Brisel head the list followed by lesser lights such as Carlisle, Barnes and Leinart. On the fence about DHB.
If Huff won’t renegotiate his deal, he needs a one way ticket out of town too.
Time to roll up the sleeves and get to work, Reggie.
Whisenhunt for OC!
December 31st, 2012 at 12:00 pm
trade prior draft a quarterback defensive pass rusher to defensive backs build defense to beat Broncos and not Gino Smith he does not impress me
December 31st, 2012 at 12:00 pm
With so many quality coaches out there allen should be fired.
He hired knapp, and defended him.
Allens defense has been terrible all year. Only recently playing ook against a a glut of bad offense, kc, clevland, sd.
Allen lied about pryor.
Allen failed to have pryor prepped or an offense installed for him, and only was exposed when word got ot about pryor running scout team as cam newton.
Allen has failed with relating to players, culminating in a debacle and national news story with romac.
Allen has been duplicitous, benching players, releasing others for so called performance yet stuck with palmer though a turn over filled six game losing streak.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:00 pm
John David Booty Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:48 am
Gdog Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:42 am
BUT WE CAN’T JUST KEEP FIRING HEAD COACHES AFTER 1 YEAR!!
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FINALLY someone gets it!!
You can’t bring in a premier SB-ready HC if you fire 5 head coaches in 4 years (or whatever its been!)
Why?
Common sense… NOBODY WANTS TO WORK HERE! Not if you can get fired after one year.
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I understand what youre saying here. I really do. And I cant say that I disagree 100%. Trust me.
But Im sorry, man. I just cant buy Dennis Allen another year. HE is just not THAT GUY. Youre telling me that if there is a clear opportunity to upgrade over Dennis Allen, you wouldnt take it? I dont believe that, man. I dont believe that you really feel that Dennis Allen is that special.
I get what youre saying. I just feel that Dennis Allen has been THAT bad.
I want continuity too. But not in the WRONG direction. This guy just doesnt have it to me.
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I’m not saying I wouldn’t take a premier guy over DA. Especially with what I’ve seen so far. But we aren’t going to get one. Gruden isn’t coming back. Norv isn’t wanted. Lovie smith has never won anything. Andy Reid is old and tired. Bruce Ariens is another roll of the dice like DA was. Same w Zimmerman or Shanahan jr or any of this guys. And cowher isn’t coming either, so don’t even start. So who is there? Who is out there that is a premier guy w experience that wants to walk into this mess? And oh yea, deal w Reggie after Mark just fired his guy? It’s just simply not gonna happen. Not next year anyway. So you may as well jump on board and strap in for the ride. I really hope it works out tho. I’m so sick of being the joke of the league.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:00 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:58 am
John David Booty Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:57 am
One more time, can anyone please tell me what Reggie McKenzie’s FIRST and FOREMOST move and decision was when he became the GM of the Oakland Raiders?
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He fired Hue Jackson, on orders from Mark Davis.
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You just made that up.
Mark said himself that Hue didnt do enough for him to fight for his job. Meaning he left it to Reggie. Its cool, man. I want the Raiders to be good too. You dont have to make up stuff to get a point across though.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:00 pm
It says Raiders release 4 coaches on the website.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Settle for Al Saunders, do you even know if Al saunders even wanted to be a OC , the guy freakin settled as a consultant for crying out loud, not like he was some genius or something, he’s been fired from as many jobs as knapp last 5 years
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That defense works if Knapp is an upgrade, to which we know for sure is not the case. Stop trying to defend a bad decision, Greg Knapp is indefensable
December 31st, 2012 at 12:01 pm
MistaBrown Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:57 am
RaiderDuck/Seymour Bush
Tell us again how R Seymour is a stud pro-bowler HOF’er.
#dum dik
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I have no idea what Seymour Bush would say, but Richard Seymour is a pro-bowl defensive lineman…for 5-10 snaps a game. The rest of the time, he’s a slug who lets himself be manhandled and puts forth zero effort.
As for your childish insults, please tell us more about the “Romney Landslide” (HAHAHAHAHAHAHA) you predicted.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:01 pm
m ok with giving DA another shot, but he should be on a short leash imo.
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He will be, I’m positive.
8-8 is the minimum he needs to keep his job and it had better be with the team on a clear upswing.
In other words, 7-4 followed by 1-4 like HueJax will get Allen canned too.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:01 pm
LOL!
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MiamiRaider78 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:59 am
Is Vick better than Elway still?
December 31st, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Before Stanford Routt, I would have gotten rid of Big DICK SEYMOUR! Can’t wait for that guy to be out of here.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:01 pm
The new OC may be Marty Mornhinweg. He is done in Philly. They interviewed him for HC last year.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Hoffman, Pollack, Holland and Knapp
Didn’t know about the other 3. Great!
December 31st, 2012 at 12:01 pm
fingers Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:53 am
Manassuamauler… Agree…. Pass rusher is a must… As well as a good corner or two
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If they do this this defense will improve immediately. We need cover corners in the worst way and a DE edge rusher is HIGH PRIORITY!!
December 31st, 2012 at 12:02 pm
GRUDEN
TRESTMAN
KELLY
FEWELL
ROMAN
SHANAHAN
BEVEL
ALL OF THESE NAMES ARE GUYS THAT SHOULD BE INTERVIEWED AT THE EXPENSE OF ALLEN
December 31st, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:00 pm
With so many quality coaches out there allen should be fired.
He hired knapp, and defended him.
Allens defense has been terrible all year. Only recently playing ook against a a glut of bad offense, kc, clevland, sd.
Allen lied about pryor.
Allen failed to have pryor prepped or an offense installed for him, and only was exposed when word got ot about pryor running scout team as cam newton.
Allen has failed with relating to players, culminating in a debacle and national news story with romac.
Allen has been duplicitous, benching players, releasing others for so called performance yet stuck with palmer though a turn over filled six game losing streak.
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100% truth
December 31st, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:55 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:37 am
So lemme get this straight , some guys want to get rid of DA for how he treated a guy who is a project at best, and was drafted in 3rd rd, who’s passing leaves a lot to be desired as evidenced by his throwing yesterday, but oh yeah he had lots of composure, poise and confidence back so lets fire our D minded rookie coach who didn’t use this ultra confident project player earlier
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LOL what a hater
You realize that he accounted for 3 tds in his first nfl start, with less than 50% of his first, starting qb practice reps?!?!?!
You realize he only turned it over once, and was in perfact command of the offense. He didnt have to burn time outs in the red zone like plamer, or have any procedure penalties.
He hasnt started a game since thew sugar bowl 2 years ago??!?
LOL palmer missed half a season and has played like dog shidd ever since.
THE WAVE OF THE FUTURE OWNS YOU!!!!
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so basically your addmitting i’m right and the game was good enough for a project to be brought back for #2 next year, and you seriously don’t think Pryor used a time out in red zone? LMAO , do you watch full Raiders games or do you just come here and check who the qb was and comment accordingly?
December 31st, 2012 at 12:02 pm
John David Booty Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:00 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:58 am
He fired Hue Jackson, on orders from Mark Davis.
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You just made that up.
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Nope. Take a look at what Steve Corkran (who has spoken with Reggie personally on more than one occasion) says.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:02 pm
If you are watching Romo and Neal, what they just got done saying is the players dont like DA and he don’t connect with them.
REGGIE you REALLY FK’d this thing up!
#4-12
December 31st, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:19 am
FIRE REGGIE NOW.
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UR AN IDIOT.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:02 pm
171.mcfadden20. Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:55 am
actually Tom Cable as an OC wouldn’t be bad either, now there’s a guy who gets his units inspired and want players to play for him
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Jezuz cripes on a crutch!
December 31st, 2012 at 12:03 pm
BTW, Norv Turner is not going to be the new OC. Etch that in stone too.
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Just Win Baby Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 9:06 am
The only changes you will see in this coaching staff might be at OC. Might be. Tarver, Allen, Reggie – they are all staying. Gruden isn’t coming back. Etch it in stone and move on. Palmer will be your QB next season, Terrell Pryor will not be starting here or anywhere else. Etch it in stone and move on. Darren McFadden will still be on this team next season. Etch it in stone and move on. the ZBS will probably leave with Knapp if he leaves, but if he stays the ZBS stays with him. Etch it….you know the rest.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:03 pm
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:20 am
Reggie should be fired for a drastic drop in production.
FIRE REGGIE NOW.
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GM’S DON’T DO THAT, STUPID.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:03 pm
I want Ken Norton Jr as a coach.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:03 pm
You realize that he accounted for 3 tds in his first nfl start, with less than 50% of his first, starting qb practice reps?!?!?!
You realize he only turned it over once, and was in perfact command of the offense. He didnt have to burn time outs in the red zone like plamer, or have any procedure penalties.
He hasnt started a game since thew sugar bowl 2 years ago??!?
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I think Pryor played better than I expected, which wasn’t much “Given the situation” you stated…Lack of practice reps, no starts, no real game time etc, etc….
I was really happy to see the touchdown drives he manufactured, but what I liked the most I think, was that he didn’t get the snap and just WANT TO RUN….He tried to hang in the pocket first. (Big improvement). All that being said, he still seems to have alot of work to do. I’m not ready to bonk him on the head with the scepter and crown him the starter, but I definately think he’s a keeper, and I hope he can develope into our guy someday. I think he bought himself another year. It’ll be on him to continue to improve.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:03 pm
Mark said himself that Hue didnt do enough for him to fight for his job. Meaning he left it to Reggie. Its cool, man. I want the Raiders to be good too. You dont have to make up stuff to get a point across though.
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I distinctly remember Cork saying that it went down like this: Mark Davis called Jackson in for a chat after the season. Jackson demanded more authority and continued to talk like he did in his post-San Diego game meltdown presser. Mark Davis apparently made up his mind then and there and, while he left the “official” decision to Reggie, *strongly suggested* that Jackson be fired as a first order of business.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Lovie 81-63 as HC and 3-3 in playoffs.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:04 pm
MistaBrown Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:02 pm
If you are watching Romo and Neal, what they just got done saying is the players dont like DA and he don’t connect with them.
REGGIE you REALLY FK’d this thing up!
#4-12
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2013 5-11
December 31st, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Why do the dumbest fcks in here like to argue the most? lol
December 31st, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:59 am
The_Judge37 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:55 am
How was he suppose to continue with the offense when he was hired so late, without many options to hire people, was he suppose to bring back Hue? n come on man O was bottom 15, 22ppg not like top 5 or 3 unit like Harbaugh took over on D, and all he needed was to get his O to work a little better
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If you’re going to settle, then settle for Al Saunders, not Greg Knapp
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Settle for Al Saunders, do you even know if Al saunders even wanted to be a OC , the guy freakin settled as a consultant for crying out loud, not like he was some genius or something, he’s been fired from as many jobs as knapp last 5 years
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“Settle” for Saunders? You do realize what Saunders title was before Dennis Allen came aboard was right? Yep. Offensive Coordinator. Allen DEMOTED him. Saunders interviewed for KC offensive coordinator, but decided to stay here to continue to work with the players he had been working with.
Where do you guys get some of this stuff?
December 31st, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:29 am
Priesttj12 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:25 am
I’m going to say this and I know it’s going to meet with a lot of acrimony. I really believe that DA and Knapp were trying to set Pryor up to fail. If not for Palmer maybe they even succeed. I don’t think it’s even a question that Pryor knows those two were never in his corner. The only reason Pryor had the success he did have was Palmer took him aside and essentially did Knapp’s job for him. He gave Pryor the tools he needed to succeed he broke down the game film and showed him how to attack them. Once DA and Knapp saw Pryor’s preparedness and leadership they said if we don’t help this kid it’s going to be very clear we didn’t want to. Knapp failed Pryor and DA tried to sabotage him. IOW’s DA did it intentionally and Knapp was just incompetent.
I think mark wants to get rid of DA, I think Reggie is begging for DA’s job. However he may not be able to save it if truth comes to light and DA gets exposed as dogging and scapegoating players. DA will be one and done…………..period
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ur mentally ill.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:05 pm
ST’s was complete garbage! I never seen it so bad.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:05 pm
OK m1st1c the professional troll is here, so reply accordingly lol
December 31st, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:02 pm
GRUDEN
TRESTMAN
KELLY
FEWELL
ROMAN
SHANAHAN
BEVEL
ALL OF THESE NAMES ARE GUYS THAT SHOULD BE INTERVIEWED AT THE EXPENSE OF ALLEN
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Why would Shanahan consider leaving his rookie qb he is riding into the playoffs? Think for a minute.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:05 pm
note to RM. wish list is pass rush specialist DE, #1 CB AND a FS that can make plays. in that order ….. PERIOD!!
December 31st, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:00 pm
With so many quality coaches out there allen should be fired.
He hired knapp, and defended him.
Allens defense has been terrible all year. Only recently playing ook against a a glut of bad offense, kc, clevland, sd.
Allen lied about pryor.
Allen failed to have pryor prepped or an offense installed for him, and only was exposed when word got ot about pryor running scout team as cam newton.
Allen has failed with relating to players, culminating in a debacle and national news story with romac.
Allen has been duplicitous, benching players, releasing others for so called performance yet stuck with palmer though a turn over filled six game losing streak.
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Yea. He’s made some mistakes. Knapp is one of them. But your wrong about most of this other stuff. He did not lose this team. As bad as this year was, they did not quit. Right down to yesterday. He did not lie about Pryor. Pryor clearly is NOT ready. I’m not saying I didn’t like some of what I saw yesterday. And I’m not saying he won’t be good someday, I hope he is. But he is clearly NOT ready to be the guy. And I didn’t see anyone benched that didn’t deserve to be benched. Our defense clearly got better once we stopped rotating McClain in (imagine that? An overall number 8 having to be rotated in), and in glad his McCheese azz will be gone.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:06 pm
I think he means Kyle Shanahan.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:06 pm
GG Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Lovie 81-63 as HC and 3-3 in playoffs.
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Lovie is a Super Bowl coach. Id take him to work with Reggie in rebuilding the Raiders over Dennis Allen. Thats a NO BRAINER.
But some guys want to stick with Allen. Why?
December 31st, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Guaranteed Marty Mornhinweg is brought in for a interview for OC. Reggie interviewed him for HC. Very strong possibility.
Raiders OC 2013= Marty Mornhinweg
December 31st, 2012 at 12:07 pm
I wanted Saunders as the OCO last year. If you need to hire someone to call plays ok however, AS should be the OCO, he knows these players, and can get more out of them imho.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Dennis Alan will hire the offense coordinator Reggie will cut the players thatwhat GM’s do and draft the new ones, Allen will have a say in it but Reggie will make the final decision it is getting so it’s more fun to be in the off-season than in the regular season next Sunday I won’t be pissed off the Raiders wont lose I will be a happy man again dreaming of the Raiders be ing in the playoffs next year every year I dream that for 13 years I know I’m a freaking idiot but I am a raider fan no brains lot heart
December 31st, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Manassamauler Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:35 am
Priesttj12 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:29 am
Priesttj12 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:25 am
I’m going to say this and I know it’s going to meet with a lot of acrimony. I really believe that DA and Knapp were trying to set Pryor up to fail. If not for Palmer maybe they even succeed. I don’t think it’s even a question that Pryor knows those two were never in his corner. The only reason Pryor had the success he did have was Palmer took him aside and essentially did Knapp’s job for him. He gave Pryor the tools he needed to succeed he broke down the game film and showed him how to attack them. Once DA and Knapp saw Pryor’s preparedness and leadership they said if we don’t help this kid it’s going to be very clear we didn’t want to. Knapp failed Pryor and DA tried to sabotage him. IOW’s DA did it intentionally and Knapp was just incompetent.
I think mark wants to get rid of DA, I think Reggie is begging for DA’s job. However he may not be able to save it if truth comes to light and DA gets exposed as dogging and scapegoating players. DA will be one and done…………..period
>. yeah yeah aren’t you the clown that said ” michael vick is better thaN jOHN ELWAY PERIOD!!! you HAVE NO BLOG credibilty.
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now that’s the some truth!
December 31st, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Hue Jackson for OC with a “you’ll never be a HC here” agreement and must apologize was wasting quality picks on your boy”.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Thanks, Gdog, for your comment at #61.
I don’t post here often but have been a diehard Raiders fan since 1964.
We need stability at head coach and I’m glad that Allen is staying.
I loved watching the game yesterday and watching The Kid play. He’s got it. His bad passes weren’t off that much; I’ve seen other quarterbacks on other teams this year throw passes so bad that you couldn’t tell who the receiver was supposed to be… I love the energy he brings. You can tell that his teammates want to play hard for him… Did you see him in there tearing Goodson away from Spikes? That’s leadership… Did you see DA on the sideline? He was trying to hide his grin and happiness at the way The Kid was playing; didn’t exactly look like he wanted to set him up to fail like some of the other idiots suggest on this forum.
Keep grooming The Kid behind CP3 next year and start him when he’s ready.
Next year is already looking good.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:39 am
Please make Saunders our OC or hire Norv. Thank you.
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another palmer nut hugging worshiper, and pryor hater
LOl suanders is an old man what makes you think he wants to get back into full time coaching?
Saunders cant save your hero palmer, that is why you pine for him.
Palmer won the exact same amount of games with saunders offense, and was far worse with 13 tds and 16 picks in 9 games?!?!?
palmer was far better under knapp and better send him his next game check for help re building a sagging stock back to mediocer
December 31st, 2012 at 12:08 pm
The only reason Pryor’s not ready is because he’s on the freakin’ bench. Give him First Team Reps like Palmer and he’ll improve also.
The guy took first team reps for half a week for crying out loud!
December 31st, 2012 at 12:08 pm
http://www.raiders.com/news/article-1/Raiders-Release-Four-Coaches/8ef23196-7812-4aac-a60f-7b222041ee3c
Just in case.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Thec Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:36 am
How do you go from, TP is not ready to be our backup to, he is starting the last game????
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it’s called changing ur mind. or according to u psychos, there’s a vast conspiracy going on.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:08 pm
John David Booty Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:06 pm
GG Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Lovie 81-63 as HC and 3-3 in playoffs.
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Lovie is a Super Bowl coach. Id take him to work with Reggie in rebuilding the Raiders over Dennis Allen. Thats a NO BRAINER.
But some guys want to stick with Allen. Why?
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Would bring Hester with him
Apparently Hester wants to retire deflated that Lovie is not his coach anymore.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Fire DA now no decent OC will work for that bronco shill.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:08 pm
How in the F did a Charger and a damn Bronco get the gig anchoring our news broadcasts????
Fire those dumb shyytss!!!
December 31st, 2012 at 12:09 pm
DA changed his tune on Pryor in the last 24hrs.
This guy has no credibility whatsoever!
December 31st, 2012 at 12:09 pm
Fire Cork for taking so long to post this thread, incompetent 2 bit blog writer.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:09 pm
They got this idiot up here now trying to spin this crap bucket the best way he can. He’s a fool for doing what he did to Pryor at the expense of this org.
They only kept him to do his yearend Pressconference before they execute his sorry ass.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:09 pm
Allen was with the Bronchoes 1 damn year.
This secret agent propaganda is hilarious.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:10 pm
MistaBrown Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:05 pm
ST’s was complete garbage! I never seen it so bad.
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hoffman was fired also.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:10 pm
RaidO Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Guaranteed Marty Mornhinweg is brought in for a interview for OC. Reggie interviewed him for HC. Very strong possibility.
Raiders OC 2013= Marty Mornhinweg
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Last year was reading an article that was analyzing who the next great HC might be, looking at a variety of stats of previous great HCs, and the profile they reached only fit Marty Mornhinweg.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:40 am
No, I think Mark Davis has already put in a cal to Norv Turner to be the OC for this team and Saunders the advance scout and gameplanning assistant.
That is what Mark should do………….
Also Reggie should be put on notice that his responsibilty will be reduced bring in someone to mentor him.
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pretty sure u suffer from “delusions of grandeur”. did the doctor tell u this?
December 31st, 2012 at 12:10 pm
DA just changed his tune on the ZBS.
This guy has no credibility whatsoever!
December 31st, 2012 at 12:10 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:03 pm
I want Ken Norton Jr as a coach.
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Ahhhh, theres one.
I called Ken one of my dark horses for available NFL coaches a few posts ago. Hes gonna end up head coaching SOMEWHERE, and Im willing to bet hes gonna be successful. We’ll see.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:41 am
Now we know for sure Mark Davis forced Pryor on DA.period
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we know that? really? where do u come up with this stuff?
December 31st, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Thec Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:00 pm
With so many quality coaches out there allen should be fired.
He hired knapp, and defended him.
Allens defense has been terrible all year. Only recently playing ook against a a glut of bad offense, kc, clevland, sd.
Allen lied about pryor.
Allen failed to have pryor prepped or an offense installed for him, and only was exposed when word got ot about pryor running scout team as cam newton.
Allen has failed with relating to players, culminating in a debacle and national news story with romac.
Allen has been duplicitous, benching players, releasing others for so called performance yet stuck with palmer though a turn over filled six game losing streak.
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100% truth
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Umh. 90% crap.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:11 pm
DA is still trying to honor the ZBS and then does an about face and says he’s not TIED to a specific scheme……….lol
What a freakin LIAR!!
December 31st, 2012 at 12:11 pm
So lets fire the D coach who has his plate full with rebuilding the D which has been ranked bottom 5 or bottom 10 since 2003, because he didn’t use the whole year to develop a project player into a HOF
December 31st, 2012 at 12:11 pm
J Hill Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:08 pm
How in the F did a Charger and a damn Bronco get the gig anchoring our news broadcasts????
Fire those dumb shyytss!!!
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`ROFLMAO…literally….lol
December 31st, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Here’s the article on that…
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/insider/news/story?id=4797666
This feature appears in the January 11, 2010 issue of ESPN The Magazine.
There must be something wrong, a fatal flaw in the research that led me here. Because, according to the best data available, gleaned from multiple studies, the unassuming man sitting opposite me in Philadelphia on a late-December afternoon — the one sporting a Philadelphia Eagles hat over his thinning brown hair — could morph into the next great NFL coach.
The regular season is nearly over, which means the season of firing and hiring will soon begin. In the coming weeks, six teams are likely to make head-coaching changes. This year’s candidate crop — more than any in recent memory — seems loaded with talent: big-name free agents like Bill Cowher and Mike Shanahan, and hot assistants like New Orleans Saints defensive coordinator Gregg Williams and Minnesota Vikings defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier. It seems virtually impossible for needy front offices to whiff with any new hire. Yet many owners will probably do just that. Unless, of course, they rely on cold, hard data to make their decisions.
Don’t laugh.
Over the past few years, a number of NFL teams and independent researchers have been working hard to devise a quantifiable method for finding a great coach. In analyzing more than 100 bench bosses, they have considered the presence of every imaginable factor, from Super Bowl victories to experience as a pro player to coaching trees to race.
But in the end, the majority of the most successful NFL headmen — past and present — have possessed at least one of the following four characteristics:
1. They were between ages 41 and 49.
2. They had at least 11 years of NFL coaching experience.
3. They were assistants on teams that won at least 50 games over a five-year span.
4. They had only one previous NFL head-coaching gig.
Accordingly, I applied those conclusions to this year’s assistants and most-discussed candidates, looking for guys who met all four of the criteria. My research led to a man who’s not on any owner’s radar: Marty Mornhinweg.
This seems absurd, right? Marty Mornhinweg? Really? 5-27 with the Lions? Well… what did you think when the Pats hired Belichick back when? What do you think now?
December 31st, 2012 at 12:12 pm
How do you go from, TP is not ready to be our backup to, he is starting the last game????
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Lienart’s game film.
How do you just not play the #2 guy?
December 31st, 2012 at 12:12 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:46 am
Ignorant Homers.
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says the guy who thinks pryor looked good.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:12 pm
243-LMAO.couldn’t agree more J.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:12 pm
I think guys have no credibility when they want to fire a coach because the coach didn’t coach up a project player over a legitimate starter hahaha, or didn’t give him more game reps, are you fukin serious?
December 31st, 2012 at 12:12 pm
MistaBrown Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:10 pm
DA just changed his tune on the ZBS.
This guy has no credibility whatsoever!
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Agreed
December 31st, 2012 at 12:12 pm
All of a sudden DA is not tied to any 1 system…
In other words Reggie told him to stick ZBS where the sun don’t shine if he wants to coach another year.
Clear as a bell!
December 31st, 2012 at 12:12 pm
Boom goes the dynamite!
December 31st, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Allen is fighting for his job imo. I think he realizes his job isn’t secure. That’s why he’s saying all this stuff, flip-flopping every day about something.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:13 pm
JFB I’m pretty sure he meant Kyle Shinanigan.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:13 pm
0ak R8rs Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:49 am
Dr_robert Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:39 am
Priesttj12 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:25 am
I’m going to say this and I know it’s going to meet with a lot of acrimony. I really believe that DA and Knapp were trying to set Pryor up to fail. If not for Palmer maybe they even succeed. I don’t think it’s even a question that Pryor knows those two were never in his corner. The only reason Pryor had the success he did have was Palmer took him aside and essentially did Knapp’s job for him. He gave Pryor the tools he needed to succeed he broke down the game film and showed him how to attack them. Once DA and Knapp saw Pryor’s preparedness and leadership they said if we don’t help this kid it’s going to be very clear we didn’t want to. Knapp failed Pryor and DA tried to sabotage him. IOW’s DA did it intentionally and Knapp was just incompetent
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Dr_robert Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:36 am
Priest–ur either retarded or mentally ill. U really believe all that happened? And u act like u know it. Like u were there. I feel sorry for u pal. U need to see a doctor. Not me. A real one. U have paranoid schizophrenia I think.
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Hahahaha. Yea. Priest is the same guy that said last night that mark Davis has always respected Andy Reid and would jump at the chance to get him and that Mark actually proposed this to Andy over coffee. He says it happens all the time.
Maybe it does, but mostly only in his own mind.
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wow. he really is mentally disturbed. and remember, he claims to have “sources” inside the organization. poor guy.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Let’s take a vote!
Who thinks DA will be our head coach next season?
My vote he will be as RM aint going to fire him.
Stake your reputations now
December 31st, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:11 pm
DA is still trying to honor the ZBS and then does an about face and says he’s not TIED to a specific scheme……….lol
What a freakin LIAR!!
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You are freakin stupid or something, he said ZBS can work and believe in it , but he’s not really tied to a specific team and will hire any guy who can have success in any kinda scheme, give the guy a break
December 31st, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Can’t get the stream/radio in the office… somebody care to post specifics?
December 31st, 2012 at 12:14 pm
I see that a lot of you may disagree, but this was the best move for the Raiders. We cannot continue to fire every coach after 1 or two seasons. If we do it will never stop. Realistically DA was in a no win situation no draft picks, no money for free agents, injuries to key players on D. Name me a successful first year coach that came in the with that. I do think that the Knapp hiring was a huge “Fail” but that are correcting that. I also think that it was Dennis that made Knapp run some power blocking schemes later in the season. If we fire DA, another DA will be hired and fired again in a year or two. I do think there HAS TO BE improvement next year.
I think we need to let Palmer go if it will save us some cap money. We have to bring in some quality veteran leadership at WR, LB, DB
December 31st, 2012 at 12:14 pm
DA, You aint gonna get anybody son you better pray you keep this post for one more year………everybody you hired JUST GOT FIRED!!
You are a moron and LIAR!!
December 31st, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Lienart’s game film.
How do you just not play the #2 guy?
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This just proves liono should have never been #2.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:14 pm
John David Booty Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:10 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:03 pm
I want Ken Norton Jr as a coach.
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Ahhhh, theres one.
I called Ken one of my dark horses for available NFL coaches a few posts ago. Hes gonna end up head coaching SOMEWHERE, and Im willing to bet hes gonna be successful. We’ll see.
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I like the way he gots his linebacker playing. Bobby Wagner is a beast! Kj Wright as well.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Fingers Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:53 am
Manassuamauler… Agree…. Pass rusher is a must… As well as a good corner or two
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u aren’t paying attention. those issues have been solved.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:15 pm
LondonAl Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Let’s take a vote!
Who thinks DA will be our head coach next season?
My vote he will be as RM ain’t going to fire him.
Stake your reputations now
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With our improvement next year, there will be no need or desire to fire him.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:15 pm
And now a chuckle to lighten things up:
• Q. What do you have when you’ve got 50 lesbians and 50 Federal workers together?
A. 100 people that don’t do Dick.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Duh…. Fire Reggie! Fire Allen!…
Man… grab your helmet and your crayons and go away…..
December 31st, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Just Win Baby Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:02 pm
GRUDEN
TRESTMAN
KELLY
FEWELL
ROMAN
SHANAHAN
BEVEL
ALL OF THESE NAMES ARE GUYS THAT SHOULD BE INTERVIEWED AT THE EXPENSE OF ALLEN
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Why would Shanahan consider leaving his rookie qb he is riding into the playoffs? Think for a minute.
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try to keep up, i mean do yuo watch football?
Not mike shanahan
his son the o coordinator in Washington KYLE SHANAHAN!!
It is a known fact he wants to be a head coach.
He could take ver here and build for pryor. His offense is perfect for Pryor, and dmac.
Morris is a downhill runner like dmac is, and they run the inside zone to prefection in washington.
Dmac was a star at ark running inside zone
December 31st, 2012 at 12:15 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:11 pm
DA is still trying to honor the ZBS and then does an about face and says he’s not TIED to a specific scheme……….lol
What a freakin LIAR!!
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You are freakin stupid or something, he said ZBS can work and believe in it , but he’s not really tied to a specific team and will hire any guy who can have success in any kinda scheme, give the guy a break
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I got a break for him but he doesn’t want it I gaurantee ya’.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:14 pm
DA, You aint gonna get anybody son you better pray you keep this post for one more year………everybody you hired JUST GOT FIRED!!
You are a moron and LIAR!!
>. sorry man but YOU can’t call anybody a moron with first admitting that you are also a moron. “michael Vick is better than John Elway”…..period!!
December 31st, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Does anybody have an opinion on bringing in Jim Tressel? Norv will not come back to Oak. And Whisenhunt might get another HC gig. I like the idea of bringing in Kelly from Oregon, but he deserves a HC position and DA will be here next year. Only way Kelly comes is if Reggie tells him he’ll be interim coach in 14, kinda like Hue coming in to replace cable
December 31st, 2012 at 12:16 pm
“IF” DA was smart, he would say he is going to hire an OCO that can build a schematic around our current talents.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:55 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:37 am
So lemme get this straight , some guys want to get rid of DA for how he treated a guy who is a project at best, and was drafted in 3rd rd, who’s passing leaves a lot to be desired as evidenced by his throwing yesterday, but oh yeah he had lots of composure, poise and confidence back so lets fire our D minded rookie coach who didn’t use this ultra confident project player earlier
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LOL what a hater
You realize that he accounted for 3 tds in his first nfl start, with less than 50% of his first, starting qb practice reps?!?!?!
You realize he only turned it over once, and was in perfact command of the offense. He didnt have to burn time outs in the red zone like plamer, or have any procedure penalties.
He hasnt started a game since thew sugar bowl 2 years ago??!?
LOL palmer missed half a season and has played like dog shidd ever since.
THE WAVE OF THE FUTURE OWNS YOU!!!!
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the wave of the future throws rainbow floaters that will normally be picked off about 5 times a game. ur an idiot clown.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:17 pm
Bring in Chris Ault as OC
December 31st, 2012 at 12:17 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Just Win Baby Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:02 pm
GRUDEN
TRESTMAN
KELLY
FEWELL
ROMAN
SHANAHAN
BEVEL
ALL OF THESE NAMES ARE GUYS THAT SHOULD BE INTERVIEWED AT THE EXPENSE OF ALLEN
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Why would Shanahan consider leaving his rookie qb he is riding into the playoffs? Think for a minute.
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try to keep up, i mean do yuo watch football?
Not mike shanahan
his son the o coordinator in Washington KYLE SHANAHAN!!
It is a known fact he wants to be a head coach.
He could take ver here and build for pryor. His offense is perfect for Pryor, and dmac.
Morris is a downhill runner like dmac is, and they run the inside zone to prefection in washington.
Dmac was a star at ark running inside zone
>> no man have to hire a black OC they are the “wave of the future” unless you just don’t want to give the bruthas credit.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:17 pm
DA,
Yesterday you threw cold water on Pryor. Today you are allover his jewels like a tijuana hooker, WTF!
December 31st, 2012 at 12:17 pm
watching this presser is the FUNNIEST thing I’ve seen all year this guy is an IDIOT!!…….lol
December 31st, 2012 at 12:17 pm
dr_robert Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:12 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:46 am
Ignorant Homers.
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says the guy who thinks pryor looked good.
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Find the post where I say that or Chot-ta.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:17 pm
try to keep up, i mean do yuo watch football?
Not mike shanahan
his son the o coordinator in Washington KYLE SHANAHAN!!
It is a known fact he wants to be a head coach.
He could take ver here and build for pryor. His offense is perfect for Pryor, and dmac.
Morris is a downhill runner like dmac is, and they run the inside zone to prefection in washington.
Dmac was a star at ark running inside zone
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but we need RGIII as well unless you’re saying Pryor and RGIII are equally good?
December 31st, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Thec Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:16 pm
“IF” DA was smart, he would say he is going to hire an OCO that can build a schematic around our current talents.
>. it just seems like common sense but these guys actually getting paid to know this stuff go blank
December 31st, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:17 pm
watching this presser is the FUNNIEST thing I’ve seen all year this guy is an IDIOT!!…….lol
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DA as HC 2013 = 5-11
December 31st, 2012 at 12:18 pm
DA uses “obviously” as much or more than Hue.
#weird
December 31st, 2012 at 12:19 pm
MistaBrown Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:18 pm
DA uses “obviously” as much or more than Hue.
#weird
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lets just hope he doesnt trade picks like him..
December 31st, 2012 at 12:19 pm
DA would be a good politician.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:19 pm
Reggie better watch his back man, he is on notice Reggie would be very smart to stop this anti-Al Davis players campaign and get a coach to coach these players up properly.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:19 pm
somebody just said Pryor = RGIII LMFAO let’s bring in Kyle Shanahan he can duplicate the succees he had with RGIII and A Morris , with Pryor and DMC LMFAO
December 31st, 2012 at 12:19 pm
Wrong,Thec.Almost always a vet is the BU QB and the young gun is #3.Many times if the starter goes down instead of throwing the vet BU out there the young gun #3 will get the start.You are smarter than that.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:20 pm
you forgot ……..period
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Priesttj12 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:17 pm
watching this presser is the FUNNIEST thing I’ve seen all year this guy is an IDIOT!!…….lol
December 31st, 2012 at 12:20 pm
LondonAl Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Let’s take a vote!
Who thinks DA will be our head coach next season?
My vote he will be as RM aint going to fire him.
Stake your reputations now
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Gone after next season.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:20 pm
Thec Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:17 pm
watching this presser is the FUNNIEST thing I’ve seen all year this guy is an IDIOT!!…….lol
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DA as HC 2013 = 5-11
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Thec, it goes without saying man this dude is a walking talking JOKE!
December 31st, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Thec Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:17 pm
watching this presser is the FUNNIEST thing I’ve seen all year this guy is an IDIOT!!…….lol
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DA as HC 2013 = 5-11
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So you’re saying the D will not be better with #3 Overall pick spent on a beast pass rusher to help our pass rushing, and better FS and better depth, you’re saying the O will not be better with better OC and #1 receiver, you think they won’t try to get better special teams guy?
December 31st, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Junior believes in continuity, so he fires 2/3 of his staff.
Great.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:21 pm
You are a paranoid FK’ng nutjob schizo goony goo goo MF’ker.
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Priesttj12 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:19 pm
Reggie better watch his back man, he is on notice Reggie would be very smart to stop this anti-Al Davis players campaign and get a coach to coach these players up properly.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:21 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:12 am
2502.RaidO Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:10 am
DA hired Knapp. DA should be FIRED to.
FIRE DA!!!!
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Not his fault, it wasn’t his 1st choice, or even his 5th. He was denied several times to interview who he really wanted.
I tell this to my kids when complaining about their mom all the time, even they understand it.
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The_Judge37 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:24 am
Just got back from a Cigarette break, told the homeless man that begs for cash outside work that Greg Knapp got fired. He said, “So there is a God”, we embraced for a few minutes, then cried, then laughed, then i told him i don’t have any chance, and he told me to Fk off.
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The_Judge37 is quickly becoming one of my favorite posters here.
Funny stuff. You’ve got a great sense of humor.
Thanks for the laughs.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Mike Shanahan is the reason why Alfred Morris is doing well.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:22 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:19 pm
somebody just said Pryor = RGIII LMFAO let’s bring in Kyle Shanahan he can duplicate the succees he had with RGIII and A Morris , with Pryor and DMC LMFAO
>. RGIII can actually stand in the pocket, read a defense, go through progressions and fire an accurate pass. Pryor hasn’t shown he can do any of those vital things. RGIII is the PHD and pryor is the GED in comparison at this point.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:22 pm
Stick to your guns D.A
you said you believe in the zbs, THAT IS WHAT YOU SAID WHEN YOU DEFNDED KNAPP!! Now your doing a 180
HOW CAN ANYBODY BELIEVE THIS LIAR
FIRE HI AZZ ALREADY!!!!
December 31st, 2012 at 12:22 pm
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DA as HC 2013 = 5-11
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Thec, it goes without saying man this dude is a walking talking JOKE!
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Thats why I named him the JOKER.
Reg = Mumbles
DA = The Joker
napp = 2 face
December 31st, 2012 at 12:22 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:17 pm
dr_robert Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:12 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:46 am
Ignorant Homers.
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says the guy who thinks pryor looked good.
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Find the post where I say that or Chot-ta.
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well, are u telling me u don’t think he looked good?
December 31st, 2012 at 12:22 pm
Manassamauler Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:22 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:19 pm
somebody just said Pryor = RGIII
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where? who?
December 31st, 2012 at 12:22 pm
With a real OC, more salary for better free agent singings and a good draft, this team will succeed.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:23 pm
tj,
In the 2000+ pages of 0bhama care can we get you a free (tax payer funded) evaluation ?
December 31st, 2012 at 12:23 pm
there is a commercial out there a Geicko commercial with Karl the Lion who is being made fun of by two Deer with Night vision apparel. DA reminds me of Karl the Lion, I’m rolling laughing at this ididot……lol
December 31st, 2012 at 12:23 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:19 pm
MistaBrown Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:18 pm
DA uses “obviously” as much or more than Hue.
#weird
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lets just hope he doesnt trade picks like him..
>. yeah but HUE was 8-8 and almost got us to teh super bowl.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:11 pm
DA is still trying to honor the ZBS and then does an about face and says he’s not TIED to a specific scheme……….lol
What a freakin LIAR!!
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You are freakin stupid or something, he said ZBS can work and believe in it , but he’s not really tied to a specific team and will hire any guy who can have success in any kinda scheme, give the guy a break
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Worth repeating. Idk wtf is going on here today. All the main guys on the “hit list” r gone. All the guys that were in control of the weakest parts of our team:
Linebackers – holland – gone
Special teams – Hoffman – gone
OC – knapp – gone
OL – pollard – gone
At least Reggie and DA see EXACTLY where the problems are. Just like most of us have been saying ALL YEAR. And they r addressing it. This should be GOOD news to everyone. Because Reggie and DA aren’t going anywhere. Not for at least two years. So get over it and be a fan or gtfo.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:23 pm
So….. details anyone?
December 31st, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Pryors best move this offseason, move in with Gannon. lol
December 31st, 2012 at 12:24 pm
newsflash: pryor sucks and palmer is ten times better.
pryor is not in anyone’s plans to be a starter. ever.
he sucks as a qb.
can nobody tell a well-trhown ball when they see one? or a badly thrown one?
December 31st, 2012 at 12:24 pm
If Ron Rivera gets canned, we can look at Rob Chudzinski as an OC
December 31st, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:22 pm
Stick to your guns D.A
you said you believe in the zbs, THAT IS WHAT YOU SAID WHEN YOU DEFNDED KNAPP!! Now your doing a 180
HOW CAN ANYBODY BELIEVE THIS LIAR
FIRE HI AZZ ALREADY!!!!
>. he changed his mind? holy shat what a concept
December 31st, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Manassamauler Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:22 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:19 pm
>. RGIII can actually stand in the pocket, read a defense, go through progressions and fire an accurate pass. Pryor hasn’t shown he can do any of those vital things.
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did you watch the game??!/
EVEN STAVE TASKER POINTED OUT HOW HE WAS IMPRESSED WITH PRYOR IN THE POCKET GOING THROUGH READS AND BEING ACCURATE?!?!
LOL
the cross posting trolls just make shid up
December 31st, 2012 at 12:24 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Pryors best move this offseason, move in with Gannon. lol
>. Pryors best move would be to get a cybernetic arm
December 31st, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:22 pm
Manassamauler Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:22 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:19 pm
somebody just said Pryor = RGIII
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where? who?
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u said u would take pryor over newton any day. now that’s some funny sh1t.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:25 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Thec Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:17 pm
watching this presser is the FUNNIEST thing I’ve seen all year this guy is an IDIOT!!…….lol
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DA as HC 2013 = 5-11
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So you’re saying the D will not be better with #3 Overall pick spent on a beast pass rusher to help our pass rushing, and better FS and better depth, you’re saying the O will not be better with better OC and #1 receiver, you think they won’t try to get better special teams guy?
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What I am saying is DA is SH!T as a HC.
What I am saying is I DO NOT expect him to win SH!T.
What I am saying is DA is not a leader of men.
What I am saying is DA is SH!T.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:25 pm
Pryor’s best move is to do what Norv told him after the game: Keep on grindin’, young man.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:25 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Manassamauler Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:22 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:19 pm
>. RGIII can actually stand in the pocket, read a defense, go through progressions and fire an accurate pass. Pryor hasn’t shown he can do any of those vital things.
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did you watch the game??!/
EVEN STAVE TASKER POINTED OUT HOW HE WAS IMPRESSED WITH PRYOR IN THE POCKET GOING THROUGH READS AND BEING ACCURATE?!?!
LOL
the cross posting trolls just make shid up
>> me so sorry to have to disagree with the all seeing oracle otherwise known as steve tasker
December 31st, 2012 at 12:25 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:22 pm
Stick to your guns D.A
you said you believe in the zbs, THAT IS WHAT YOU SAID WHEN YOU DEFNDED KNAPP!! Now your doing a 180
HOW CAN ANYBODY BELIEVE THIS LIAR
FIRE HI AZZ ALREADY!!!!
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Yea. That’s how you succeed in the NFL, and life in general. Throw your assistants and players under the bus. Worked out great for Hue didn’t it? Your an idiot.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:26 pm
pryor throws one of the worst balls in nfl history.
missdick, priest, and the clown parade wanna build around him.
he ain’t griffin. he ain’t newton. he’s tebow.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:26 pm
Thank goodness some of the trash has been taken out…
I am sure Allen has been put on notice as well. He has 1 more season to get his sh!t together or he will be out on his azz as well.
Now stop f@cking around and bring in a REAL offensive coach.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Dr_robert Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:24 pm
newsflash: pryor sucks and palmer is ten times better.
pryor is not in anyone’s plans to be a starter. ever.
he sucks as a qb.
can nobody tell a well-trhown ball when they see one? or a badly thrown one?
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Palmer is a LOSER he will NEVER win just like Tony Romo.
Romo > Palmer.
It’s time to move on. Raiders are rebuilding.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:27 pm
LA To TheBay Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:25 pm
Pryor’s best move is to do what Norv told him after the game: Keep on grindin’, young man.
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as a coach, i tell that same thing to EVERY opponent we play. it’s just coach-speak.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Dr.Bob can’t be this stupid can he? He is just fkin wit us right?
December 31st, 2012 at 12:27 pm
if Pryor were white Mistic wouldn’t be master baiting over him every day. sad fact people
December 31st, 2012 at 12:27 pm
This is the year to change HC’s there are many good canidates available available, including Gruden. When the raiders win 5 games next year with DA at the helm and gets fired, who will be available? The time to strike is now, not next year when there will be slim pickings.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:27 pm
‘Sup smellas??
God, the year has finally relented. That was some awful football we were subjected to.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:28 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:45 am
WEASAL!
That is fitting for Dennis.
Weasal Tits!
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At least learn how to spell it correctly before you try to convince the rest of us to go along with your new nickname proposal… Moron….
December 31st, 2012 at 12:28 pm
One game doesn’t constitute enough to evaluate a player but during the course of an NFL game the guy under (behind?!) the center will display whether he mentally “gets it” or not.
The two intangibles TP brings to the table that aren’t even arguable are his competitiveness & leadership skills. His athleticness opens the field for the running game & makes the DB’s play more honest.
TP, like every other player watches his competition. He compares himself to Cam Newton. Of course he also realizes he has to improve his footwork & overall approach to the passing game but he no longer “shot puts” the ball like he did in college. See Tebow, Tim. . . I think his future is bright as he will continue to work & realizes hard work for a QB is the example his teammates will take to their offseason workout regimen. . .
Canning Knapp & Pollack & the accompanying tea leaves reveal they will take one more shot @ DMAC? If they go to a “Coryell (re: paging Norv Turner; paging Norv Turner, who would want to remain in Cali if he reverts to OC level. . .)”/power running system. . .
Now onto what this team needs; a NT, Mike ‘Backer, speed rusher, an OT, TE & perhaps one more WR. . .
I believe Moore dealt with balky hamstring all year & just clammed up about it. I expect him to be a completely different player next year. Ford? The jury is still out over how extensive his foot surgery really was. Will it effect the rest of his career? If not hopefully he can return to the slot receiver & return specialist.
Streeter is a consumate possession receiver. Depending on who you listen to he either ran a sub 4.6 0r 4.4 forty. But he has the best hands of any Raider WR, is a great route runner & possesses the ability to run the entire route tree. Don’t know what to do with DHB. Perhaps he, too will more realize his true calling in a Coryell downfield passing attack. . .is Ausberry done? Or perhaps did he need another year to get accustomed to his “TE” body?
I think Criner will get much better in his first NFL offseason but obviously the lack of continuity the offense will suffer will, pardon the pun, “hamstring” the Raiders growth. . .but it has to be done. . .
Anyway, many more points to pontificate as we go forward. Looking forward to the Allen presser (unless it’s more of the same “coachspeak. . .”). . .
December 31st, 2012 at 12:28 pm
Manassamauler Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:25 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Manassamauler Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:22 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:19 pm
>. RGIII can actually stand in the pocket, read a defense, go through progressions and fire an accurate pass. Pryor hasn’t shown he can do any of those vital things.
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did you watch the game??!/
EVEN STAVE TASKER POINTED OUT HOW HE WAS IMPRESSED WITH PRYOR IN THE POCKET GOING THROUGH READS AND BEING ACCURATE?!?!
LOL
the cross posting trolls just make shid up
>> me so sorry to have to disagree with the all seeing oracle otherwise known as steve tasker
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And Steve Tasker has always been a Raider homer. Idk why but he is. I always love when he does the Raider games, we have so few announcers that like us. Solomon wilcotts is another one. I think he always wanted to be a raider.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:28 pm
Romo > Palmer.
>. thats just wrong. ROMO is the greatest choke artist is modern sports. palmer is nowhere near that bad.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:28 pm
RaidO Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Dr_robert Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:24 pm
newsflash: pryor sucks and palmer is ten times better.
pryor is not in anyone’s plans to be a starter. ever.
he sucks as a qb.
can nobody tell a well-trhown ball when they see one? or a badly thrown one?
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Palmer is a LOSER he will NEVER win just like Tony Romo.
Romo > Palmer.
It’s time to move on. Raiders are rebuilding.
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pryor=biggest loser ver.
.000 winning percentage.
u wanna build with one of the worst passers in nfl history?
dumbest idea ever.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:28 pm
What about Special Teams? Who will they bring in to fix that problem?
December 31st, 2012 at 12:29 pm
Why not bring in the creator of the Pistol(Ault)and let him game plan with Pryor…
December 31st, 2012 at 12:29 pm
[...] [...]
December 31st, 2012 at 12:29 pm
Pryor hasn’t shown he can do any of those vital things.
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did you watch the game??!/
EVEN STAVE TASKER POINTED OUT HOW HE WAS IMPRESSED WITH PRYOR IN THE POCKET GOING THROUGH READS AND BEING ACCURATE?!?!
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Mistic and I have battled in here for 2+ years now, so I think mine would be an objective take. We rarely agree on matters of QB but we both like Pryor.
Pryor was pass first in every circumstance yesterday and eluded some big time pressure and made some NFL pass rushers look pretty stupid with his moves when he HAD to.
Pryor went through his progressions and made the right decision 100% of the time. Some passes dropped, some off target. Really no different than any other QB.
He obviously has room for improvement but I think his future is bright as long as he keeps working and he has someone to believe in him.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:29 pm
manassamauler Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:24 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Pryors best move this offseason, move in with Gannon. lol
>. Pryors best move would be to get a cybernetic arm
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NO GUNS! lol jk
December 31st, 2012 at 12:30 pm
palmer’s rating 85.3
pryor’s rating 70.8
great idea guys.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:30 pm
PurpleDrank81 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:29 pm
Why not bring in the creator of the Pistol(Ault)and let him game plan with Pryor…
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cuz pryor sucks.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:30 pm
LMAO at those that quote Romo and that idiot Neal.Romo’s parting words-bring in Teabow.Enough said!
December 31st, 2012 at 12:30 pm
Quote from Bill Williamson;
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest
Pryor prove himself? I really liked what I saw from Terrelle Pryor on Sunday. He showed leadership, poise and heart.
He is not a finished product, but I think there is something Oakland can work with. There are a lot of young, dynamic quarterbacks in this league. I think Oakland had to make developing Pryor quickly a priority. Carson Palmer is 33, expensive, and not improving.
If Pryor makes big strides in the offseason, I don’t think it would be a terrible idea for Oakland to consider handing him the starting job. This team will be still rebuilding for the next couple of years. Might as well give the kid a chance.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:30 pm
well we can all stop hoping..Allen will OFFICIALLY be back next year. he just held a press conference and said NO OTHER Coaches will be fired..ALlen, Tarver, Mckenzie..safe for now.
BIG Mistake!!!
December 31st, 2012 at 12:30 pm
ray_d Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:27 pm
This is the year to change HC’s there are many good canidates available available, including Gruden. When the raiders win 5 games next year with DA at the helm and gets fired, who will be available? The time to strike is now, not next year when there will be slim pickings.
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concur
December 31st, 2012 at 12:31 pm
those rainbow floaters were a thing of beauty
December 31st, 2012 at 12:31 pm
284.Thec Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:16 pm
“IF” DA was smart, he would say he is going to hire an OCO that can build a schematic around our current talents.
^^^^^^^
It’s clear Tits DA is in over his head.
This franchise and team is going nowhere with this guy as HC.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:31 pm
JWISARAIDER Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:30 pm
well we can all stop hoping..Allen will OFFICIALLY be back next year. he just held a press conference and said NO OTHER Coaches will be fired..ALlen, Tarver, Mckenzie..safe for now.
BIG Mistake!!!
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You mean that it would be a big mistake to fire any of those three.
There. Fixed it for you.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:31 pm
Manassamauler Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:28 pm
Romo > Palmer.
>. thats just wrong. ROMO is the greatest choke artist is modern sports. palmer is nowhere near that bad.
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LOL, Palmer is INT machine choke artist but good at patting stats in the 4th when the game is over. Romo actually wins more both they both are LOSERS.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:32 pm
pryor blows. palmer rules!
December 31st, 2012 at 12:32 pm
241.GG Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:08 pm
John David Booty Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:06 pm
GG Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Lovie 81-63 as HC and 3-3 in playoffs.
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Lovie is a Super Bowl coach. Id take him to work with Reggie in rebuilding the Raiders over Dennis Allen. Thats a NO BRAINER.
But some guys want to stick with Allen. Why?
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Would bring Hester with him
Apparently Hester wants to retire deflated that Lovie is not his coach anymore.
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Bill Callahan is a “Super Bowl Coach” as well. I think Chicago has high expectations and is sick of losing to GB…NOT JUST for the fans, but becuz GB is the division benchmark and you’ve got to find a way to get past them if u want to win.
Also, Chi. GM Phil Emery was told he had to keep Lovie for at least this season before making a move.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:32 pm
fingers Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:36 am
I can’t remember a Raider team .. Even 2006, that was harder to watch than this years Raiders…..painful…
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Without question
December 31st, 2012 at 12:32 pm
RaidO Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:31 pm
Manassamauler Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:28 pm
Romo > Palmer.
>. thats just wrong. ROMO is the greatest choke artist is modern sports. palmer is nowhere near that bad.
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LOL, Palmer is INT machine choke artist but good at patting stats in the 4th when the game is over. Romo actually wins more both they both are LOSERS.
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saya a guy with no understanding of the game at all.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:33 pm
Thec Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:30 pm
Quote from Bill Williamson;
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest
Pryor prove himself? I really liked what I saw from Terrelle Pryor on Sunday. He showed leadership, poise and heart.
He is not a finished product, but I think there is something Oakland can work with. There are a lot of young, dynamic quarterbacks in this league. I think Oakland had to make developing Pryor quickly a priority. Carson Palmer is 33, expensive, and not improving.
If Pryor makes big strides in the offseason, I don’t think it would be a terrible idea for Oakland to consider handing him the starting job. This team will be still rebuilding for the next couple of years. Might as well give the kid a chance.
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TRUTH
December 31st, 2012 at 12:33 pm
if u guys think this year was bad, imagine watching a qb with a 70.8 rating throw rainbow floaters all season. let’s see. about 45 int’s.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:33 pm
Whoops, I forgot they already have Al Saunders in place. He should be given the keys to the Raiders offensive car going forward. . .that would be a good start.
Wonder if Wiz would consider returning as part of the OL coaching staff?
December 31st, 2012 at 12:33 pm
335-Manassa-same could be said of a few other posters.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:34 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:29 pm
Pryor hasn’t shown he can do any of those vital things.
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did you watch the game??!/
EVEN STAVE TASKER POINTED OUT HOW HE WAS IMPRESSED WITH PRYOR IN THE POCKET GOING THROUGH READS AND BEING ACCURATE?!?!
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Mistic and I have battled in here for 2+ years now, so I think mine would be an objective take. We rarely agree on matters of QB but we both like Pryor.
Pryor was pass first in every circumstance yesterday and eluded some big time pressure and made some NFL pass rushers look pretty stupid with his moves when he HAD to.
Pryor went through his progressions and made the right decision 100% of the time. Some passes dropped, some off target. Really no different than any other QB.
He obviously has room for improvement but I think his future is bright as long as he keeps working and he has someone to believe in him.
>> looked like pryor locked on to 1 target and only went through “progressions” after he had run around to extend the play. the same way i used to win at madden endlessly. take a scrambling QB and run around and wait for my WRs to comeback or get open. too easy
December 31st, 2012 at 12:34 pm
pryor is the worst raider qb of all time.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:34 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:17 pm
try to keep up, i mean do yuo watch football?
Not mike shanahan
his son the o coordinator in Washington KYLE SHANAHAN!!
It is a known fact he wants to be a head coach.
He could take ver here and build for pryor. His offense is perfect for Pryor, and dmac.
Morris is a downhill runner like dmac is, and they run the inside zone to prefection in washington.
Dmac was a star at ark running inside zone
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but we need RGIII as well unless you’re saying Pryor and RGIII are equally good?
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you have already admitted that you DONT watch college football.
If you did you would know that DAMC AND PRYOR WERE SUPER STARS RUNNING THAT OFFENSE.
Did you watch the game yesterday?
first play of the game.
pryor takes ball from center and turns toward the back field.
At the same time a wr starts a a ghost reverse motion adding to the hesitation of the defenders and disguise of the play design.
Because the d end could not crash down the line and had to wait in case of the boot leg or the reverse A HUGE SEAM OPENED IN THE INTTERIOR OF THE LINE AND DMAC SMASHED THROUGH IT FOR 8 YARDS!!!!
Are you upse because this is what I have been screaming for and it played out exactly the way I aid it would?
Look at the game !@!!! the first play is what i have been saying all year!!!
You have been exposed.
Not only did they run a play that i said i wanted pryor in but it worked like i told you it would, with the exact players i said would succeed with it.
Yes kyle shanahn or the like would be a perfect fit for the above reasons troll
December 31st, 2012 at 12:35 pm
Dr_robert Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:34 pm
pryor is the worst raider qb of all time.
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No, that would be JaMarcus…
December 31st, 2012 at 12:35 pm
#362, I don’t always agree with Williamson but he seems to be the objective exception to BSPN’s rule. . .
December 31st, 2012 at 12:35 pm
Dr_robert Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:32 pm
pryor blows. palmer rules!
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I find it hard to believe you are a coach. You sound like an 8 year old.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:35 pm
How anyone in their right mind can defend the double agent is beyond me. He is a walking talking contradiction. He says whatever comes into his pea-brain without giving much tought to coherence or common sense. he contradicted himself about 5 times in one presser.
As a Raider fan I cannot will not and don’t understand anyoen else who will support and buy into anything this man says. He is a blatant liar…………..period
December 31st, 2012 at 12:36 pm
Wonder if Wiz would consider returning as part of the OL coaching staff?
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I thought Wiz left for personal reasons? Why would he return?
December 31st, 2012 at 12:37 pm
.356
it wasnt broke..doesnt need fixing. the hiring of knapp and the butchering of this roster is unforgivable
December 31st, 2012 at 12:37 pm
Pryor had a nice debut though and has a good attitude and competes.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:37 pm
Whoknows Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:35 pm
Dr_robert Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:32 pm
pryor blows. palmer rules!
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I find it hard to believe you are a coach. You sound like an 8 year old.
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He’s not a coach at all.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:37 pm
DA is a Young Coach. I think with a whole season under his belt and a real OC whose knows how to work with his players Strengths like Hue Jax did, this team can be in good shape.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:37 pm
Manassamauler Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:25 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Manassamauler Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:22 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:19 pm
>. RGIII can actually stand in the pocket, read a defense, go through progressions and fire an accurate pass. Pryor hasn’t shown he can do any of those vital things.
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did you watch the game??!/
EVEN STAVE TASKER POINTED OUT HOW HE WAS IMPRESSED WITH PRYOR IN THE POCKET GOING THROUGH READS AND BEING ACCURATE?!?!
LOL
the cross posting trolls just make shid up
>> me so sorry to have to disagree with the all seeing oracle otherwise known as steve tasker
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lol
veteran former nfl player steve tasker of 4 superbowl buffalo bills.
Wr for the jim kelly and the k gun offense?
Im pretty sure he knows more about qbs and qb talent or ability to read defsENSE than you
LMFAO- STEVE TASKER OWNS YOU!!!!
December 31st, 2012 at 12:38 pm
Oh brother, here we go with the ‘let’s run a college offense’ crap again.
Gonna be a long off season.
Worst defense I have ever seen in SnB!!
December 31st, 2012 at 12:38 pm
Oh, yeah, remember the end of the 2008 season when Russell had two good outings against Tampa Bay & Houston & everybody got happy? What did he do in the offseason?
He summarily went home, partied & slept his lazy azz off & set the Raiders growth back half a decade (conservative estimate. . .).
TP will work every day. He’s probably bugging CP even as we speak, breaking down film & begging WR’s to accompany him to the practice field. . .
That’s leadership you can build off of. . .
December 31st, 2012 at 12:38 pm
Dennis Allen should be on his way out the door behind Knapp. Unfortunately, that does not appear to be the case.
This is about Reggie saving face and Mark saving money. Don’t fool yourself.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:38 pm
Whoknows Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:35 pm
Dr_robert Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:32 pm
pryor blows. palmer rules!
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I find it hard to believe you are a coach. You sound like an 8 year old.
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well, i know more about football than anyone here.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Robbie_Doc is just a sick man………leave him be the nurse will be in soon to wipe the drool from his face. This is how he releaves his anxiety attacks.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:39 pm
The Oakland Raiders made a quick statement about their unhappiness over a disappointing first season to the Reggie McKenzie-Dennis Allen era.
But it seems like the two men are safe.
The big move was the firing of offensive coordinator Greg Knapp. Also fired were special teams coordinator Steve Hoffman, offensive line coach Frank Pollack and linebackers coach Johnny Holland. Allen made the announcement Monday.
“Decisions like this are very difficult,” Allen said in a statement. “I have a great deal of respect for all of these men and I appreciate their contributions to the Oakland Raiders this season.”
Knapp’s offense was a major disappointment. Oakland did not take to Knapp’s version of the West Coast offense and the zone-blocking running scheme. Oakland was particularly poor in the red zone.
Running back Darren McFadden had a poor season under Knapp and he was never comfortable in Knapp’s scheme.
Knapp was a curious decision by Allen. He wasn’t his first choice, but he was paid well in Oakland. Knapp was the Raiders’ offensive coordinator in 2007 and ’08 and he was stripped of his duties by Tom Cable in the 2008 season.
Whoever Allen hires, expect the Raiders to try to employ a more power attack that flourished under former coach Hue Jackson. It seems to fit the team’s personnel better than Knapp’s scheme.
I think defensive coordinator Jason Tarver should be safe. If he wasn’t, he probably would have been shown the door quickly like Knapp was.
Tarver’s defense was a sieve for much of the season, but it tightened some in December. The Raiders’ biggest issue on defense is talent. I think it has a good coaching base there with Allen and Tarver.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:35 pm
How anyone in their right mind can defend the double agent is beyond me. He is a walking talking contradiction. He says whatever comes into his pea-brain without giving much tought to coherence or common sense. he contradicted himself about 5 times in one presser.
As a Raider fan I cannot will not and don’t understand anyoen else who will support and buy into anything this man says. He is a blatant liar…………..period
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please stop being a raider fan.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:39 pm
What poster said first guy in last to leave was not a good thing?
December 31st, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Being facetious, 373. . .
December 31st, 2012 at 12:40 pm
Also, Mike Mitchell needs to be a full-time starter in 2013. My man looked great out there these last several weeks.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:40 pm
GG Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:37 pm
Whoknows Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:35 pm
Dr_robert Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:32 pm
pryor blows. palmer rules!
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I find it hard to believe you are a coach. You sound like an 8 year old.
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He’s not a coach at all.
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ur a lying piece human waste, so nothing u say means anything.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:40 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:55 am
actually Tom Cable as an OC wouldn’t be bad either, now there’s a guy who gets his units inspired and want players to play for him
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Please put the crack pipe down
December 31st, 2012 at 12:40 pm
Whoknows Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:35 pm
Dr_robert Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:32 pm
pryor blows. palmer rules!
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I find it hard to believe you are a coach. You sound like an 8 year old.
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He’s not a coach at all.
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GG you finally picked up on it huh?
He’s an attention whore………period
December 31st, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Yards per game
2012: 18th at 344
2011: 9th at 379.5
Points per game
2012: 26th at 18.1
2011: 16th at 22.4
Passing yards per game
2012: 8th at 255.2
2011: 11th at 247.6
Passer rating
2012: 18th at 82.4
2011: 17th at 79.4
Rushing yards per game
2012: 28th at 88.8
2011: 7th at 131.9
Rushing touchdowns
2012: Tied for 31st with four
2011: Tied for seventh with 16
Rushing yards per carry
2012: Tied for 23rd at 3.8
2011: Tied for 7th at 4.5
Pathtetic.Denise should be gone by end of the week.Regression in every sense of the word.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:41 pm
pryor throws the worst ball i’ve ever seen in the nfl.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Yes if Pryor was white, Mist1c n priest n them would have made sure he wouldn’t have ever even dreamed of himself in HOF , but since he’s black , they are already talking about going to his HOF introduction speech, it’s really sad
December 31st, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Dr_robert Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:30 pm
palmer’s rating 85.3
pryor’s rating 70.8
great idea guys.
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HILARIOS
Palmer practiced all year and still had “chemistry issues with wrs”.
palmer practiced all year and had several games with multiple turn overs.
palmer practiced all year and was blanked by kc?!?!?
PRYOR GOT LESS THAN 50% OF THE FIRST TEAM REPS FOR ONE WEEK AND MANUFACTURES 21 POINTS BY HIMSELF, ONLY TURNING IT OVER ONCE!!!!
what the hell are you people smoking? Give pryor all the number one reps and we will be challenging fro the playoffs next year
December 31st, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:40 pm
Whoknows Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:35 pm
Dr_robert Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:32 pm
pryor blows. palmer rules!
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I find it hard to believe you are a coach. You sound like an 8 year old.
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He’s not a coach at all.
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GG you finally picked up on it huh?
He’s an attention whore………period
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are u guys gonna hump?
December 31st, 2012 at 12:42 pm
They have to get rid of Palmer. No need to waste time or money. He is not worth it. As soon as Palmer plays average or sucks like usual everybody will be calling for Pryor. Just avoid the nonsense and get rid of Palmer.
Rebuilding!
December 31st, 2012 at 12:42 pm
377.rooch Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:37 pm
DA is a Young Coach. I think with a whole season under his belt and a real OC whose knows how to work with his players Strengths like Hue Jax did, this team can be in good shape.
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You guys realize that Hue was the OC right? Al Saunders was more or less an assistant offensive coach?
December 31st, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Dr_robert Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:30 pm
palmer’s rating 85.3
pryor’s rating 70.8
great idea guys.
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HILARIOS
Palmer practiced all year and still had “chemistry issues with wrs”.
palmer practiced all year and had several games with multiple turn overs.
palmer practiced all year and was blanked by kc?!?!?
PRYOR GOT LESS THAN 50% OF THE FIRST TEAM REPS FOR ONE WEEK AND MANUFACTURES 21 POINTS BY HIMSELF, ONLY TURNING IT OVER ONCE!!!!
what the hell are you people smoking? Give pryor all the number one reps and we will be challenging fro the playoffs next year
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tell us why he throws such a horrible ball then missdick. address it coward.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Dr_robert Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:30 pm
palmer’s rating 85.3
pryor’s rating 70.8
great idea guys.
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HILARIOS
Palmer practiced all year and still had “chemistry issues with wrs”.
palmer practiced all year and had several games with multiple turn overs.
palmer practiced all year and was blanked by kc?!?!?
PRYOR GOT LESS THAN 50% OF THE FIRST TEAM REPS FOR ONE WEEK AND MANUFACTURES 21 POINTS BY HIMSELF, ONLY TURNING IT OVER ONCE!!!!
what the hell are you people smoking? Give pryor all the number one reps and we will be challenging fro the playoffs next year
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Based on your gut feelings ?? LMFAO , who is as pro black as it comes and wants to put every living pro black guy into HOF
December 31st, 2012 at 12:43 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Yes if Pryor was white, Mist1c n priest n them would have made sure he wouldn’t have ever even dreamed of himself in HOF , but since he’s black , they are already talking about going to his HOF introduction speech, it’s really sad
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Actually best guy to ever play QB in the NFL was a white guy…. Ken Stabler
December 31st, 2012 at 12:43 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 10:48 am
Gotta love how MistaBrown thinks Seymour Bush and I are the same person.
Then again, MistaBrown also thought we’d get a…a…a…
“ROMNEY LANDSLIDE”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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He doesn’t think you are Seymour Bush.
He thinks you are Oakglen, BsDetector, 666, Debo, and Seymour Bush.
Glad I could help
December 31st, 2012 at 12:44 pm
palmer=4k yards and 22 td’s in 14 games.
pryor=150 yards a game. ducks flying all over.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:40 pm
Whoknows Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:35 pm
Dr_robert Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:32 pm
pryor blows. palmer rules!
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I find it hard to believe you are a coach. You sound like an 8 year old.
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He’s not a coach at all.
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GG you finally picked up on it huh?
He’s an attention whore………period
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Lol yeah he got exposed the last two days he aint a coach. Like Whoknows intimated, he’s too much of an adolescent.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:44 pm
This blog has gone to crap.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Thec Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:43 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Yes if Pryor was white, Mist1c n priest n them would have made sure he wouldn’t have ever even dreamed of himself in HOF , but since he’s black , they are already talking about going to his HOF introduction speech, it’s really sad
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Actually best guy to ever play QB in the NFL was a white guy…. Ken Stabler
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Funny.
Ok, not really.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Denise should be giveing Hue his pedicure’s.Denise couldnt carry Hues jock strap.Look at the numbers compared to Hue’s.WTF. Worse coach in history.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:44 pm
missdick–who’s ur top 5 college qb’s in the draft?
should we guess?
December 31st, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Why are people comparing Palmer to, basically a rookie in Pryor?
Wasn’t expecting black Steve Young to show up but if the kid puts in work, he might be able to have a successful career as a QB.
Fck’n nonsense.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:44 pm
We’re stuck with Sharpie for one more season. Forget winning next year. In 2013, focus on :
* Balance the books. Get rid of bad contracts Seymour, DHB, McClain, Palmer, Kelly, Branch, Huff.
* Have a strong draft. Trade down get to get 7-8 picks, add 2-4 more quality UFA’s.
* Make good moves in FA to bring in impact leaders.
* Develop our young players. Pryor, Streater, Criner, Houston, Bilukidi, Burris, Wheeler, etc.
* Cut/Trade/Release players that aren’t getting it done.
* Set the stage for a comeback in 2014 with a new quality HC and staff, strong Defense, young offense and a new franchise QB (Pryor or otherwise).
2014 the Year of the Raiders!
December 31st, 2012 at 12:45 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:44 pm
This blog has gone to crap.
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I told you, when was it not crap?
December 31st, 2012 at 12:45 pm
Post #398, ya have to remember Saunders’ resume as the OC in Washington & KC. . .pretty good stuff. . .
Translates well into the Raiders skill position strengths. . .did pretty good with an undrafted RB name of Priest Holmes, or something like that. . .
December 31st, 2012 at 12:46 pm
I think Palmer retires. He sustained a pretty significant injury. I like the guy but he is not the answer here. Bring him back as a qb coach for Pryor.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:46 pm
i’ma high school defensive coordinator/qb coach. i played on the #3 team in the country.
u guys supporting pryor are clowns.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:46 pm
407.oakfshow Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Denise should be giveing Hue his pedicure’s.Denise couldnt carry Hues jock strap.Look at the numbers compared to Hue’s.WTF. Worse coach in history.
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Havve to go on record and say that you were right from the jump. 1 of a few that saw it.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:46 pm
With news of Lovie’s firing, all the Bears players were devastated, they loved Smith, would walk thru walls for him.
That ain’t Allen.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:46 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Why are people comparing Palmer to, basically a rookie in Pryor?
Wasn’t expecting black Steve Young to show up but if the kid puts in work, he might be able to have a successful career as a QB.
Fck’n nonsense.
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he will never throw a good ball. he can never get there. it’s obvious.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:46 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:45 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:44 pm
This blog has gone to crap.
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I told you, when was it not crap?
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I try to see the best in it..
But its out of control now.
Back in the day, there was 2 trolls at the most..
Seems like its filled with them now.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:46 pm
Mistic and I have battled in here for 2+ years now, so I think mine would be an objective take. We rarely agree on matters of QB but we both like Pryor.
Pryor was pass first in every circumstance yesterday and eluded some big time pressure and made some NFL pass rushers look pretty stupid with his moves when he HAD to.
Pryor went through his progressions and made the right decision 100% of the time. Some passes dropped, some off target. Really no different than any other QB.
He obviously has room for improvement but I think his future is bright as long as he keeps working and he has someone to believe in him.
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Amen to all of this
December 31st, 2012 at 12:47 pm
Stop the We Miss Hue whine. Hue is gone, and should stay gone. Anyone who says otherwise didn’t pay attention last year.
Hue took over Cable’s 8-8 team. Yes, Hue finished at 8-8 but only because of a monumental collapse at the end of the year, that should not have happened.
-Raiders started season 7-4, only to lose 4 of the last 5 games. Just one win in there would have put us in the playoffs. That is on the coaches. FAIL. Bye Hue.
-Hue said he was going to build a bully. He couldn’t build a box with lego’s if you spotted him 3 sides. Under Hue in charge, the Raiders committed 163 penalties. AN NFL RECORD. For 1,358 yds. ANOTHER NFL RECORD. Not only did Hue not instill discipline, the team got worse. FAIL. Bye Hue.
-Raiders, under Hue, gave up 31 TD passes. A FRANCHISE WORST RECORD. FAIL. Bye Hue.
-Raiders, under Hue, gave up 5.1 yds per carry, on defense. A FRANCHISE WORST RECORD. FAIL. Bye Hue.
-Raiders, under Hue, gave up 4,262 yds passing. A FRANCHISE WORST RECORD. FAIL. Bye Hue.
-Raiders, under Hue, gave up 6,201 total yards. A FRANCHISE WORST RECORD. FAIL. Bye Hue.
-Raiders, under Hue, gave up 433 pts. the 3RD WORST IN FRANCHISE HISTORY. FAIL. Bye Hue.
-Raiders, under Hue, was one of only 4 TEAMS, IN THE HISTORY OF THE NFL, TO GIVE UP AT LEAST 30 TD PASSES, AND AT LEAST 5.0 YARDS PER CARRY. Two of those teams were the ‘50 Colts and the ‘52 Texans. FAIL. Bye Hue.
-Raiders, under Hue, became the sixth team since the 1970 merger to allow at least 2,000 yards rushing and 4,000 yards passing in a season. FAIL Bye Hue.
Forget Hue acting like a total idiot, and prima donna, demanding more control. Or him throwing the team under the bus, after stating all along he deserved all the blame. He got fired because he didn’t just do an inadequate job, but, as you can see above, Hue did a horrible job
December 31st, 2012 at 12:47 pm
This is one of many coaches I would pick over ALLEN!!!!
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GG Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:08 pm
John David Booty Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:06 pm
GG Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Lovie 81-63 as HC and 3-3 in playoffs.
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Lovie is a Super Bowl coach. Id take him to work with Reggie in rebuilding the Raiders over Dennis Allen. Thats a NO BRAINER.
But some guys want to stick with Allen. Why?
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Would bring Hester with him
Apparently Hester wants to retire deflated that Lovie is not his coach anymore.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:47 pm
Rushing yards per game
2012: 28th at 88.8
2011: 7th at 131.9
Rushing touchdowns
2012: Tied for 31st with four
2011: Tied for seventh with 16
Rushing yards per carry
2012: Tied for 23rd at 3.8
2011: Tied for 7th at 4.5
====================================================== Hey,zone blocking is the way to go.Give me a fkn break.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:47 pm
Look at what the Broncos and Niners did. They rebuilt their defenses first. Once they had a good defense and solid foundation – they were able to bring in good head coaches, new QB’s and were able to make the quick jump.
We can do the same.
2014 – Year of the Raider!
December 31st, 2012 at 12:47 pm
pryor as a passer is a joke. if u don’t see that, then u are a joke as well.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:48 pm
Lovie Smith was the Bears coach for years.
How can you compare him to a first year rookie head coach?
Nevermind. Dont answer.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:48 pm
Antispy3
Out of context.
Saunders is a respected NFL coach and offensive mind. I was pointing out that he did not serve in the OC capacity like say, Knapp did this year — where he ran the show on O.
Saunders helped prepare game plans and worked with positions. Hue actually came up with the game plans.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:48 pm
7 Coaches fired in NFL today,,,,,,,
ONLY 1 with a worse record than Raiders
oh yeah that coached gave our coach 2 of our 4 wins
SAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 31st, 2012 at 12:48 pm
381.Chris in NY Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:38 pm
Dennis Allen should be on his way out the door behind Knapp. Unfortunately, that does not appear to be the case.
This is about Reggie saving face and Mark saving money. Don’t fool yourself.
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I have to agree. 2013 might be a bit more watchable on offense, but under DA and Tarver, the defense will still suck and the team will still be unprepared week in and week out.
Unless Mark told Reggie he couldn’t fire DA due to his contract, then Reggie just signed his own pink slip.
However, I would not be surprised if the only reason DA is still HC is because of the $$. The Raiders are the poorest team in the NFL.
LA Raiders with a new GM and HC coming soon….
December 31st, 2012 at 12:48 pm
yesterday, u witnessed the only game pryor will ever start as a qb in the nfl. only cuz there was no other choice.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Pryor as someone who put us in a position to score points, is not a joke. If you don’t see that you’re an idiot.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Yes if Pryor was white, Mist1c n priest n them would have made sure he wouldn’t have ever even dreamed of himself in HOF , but since he’s black , they are already talking about going to his HOF introduction speech, it’s really sad
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this dude instantly starts the race baiting.
racist troll, you are the first to bring up skin color (as usual)
you are the one with the issue
December 31st, 2012 at 12:49 pm
415.Thec Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:46 pm
407.oakfshow Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Denise should be giveing Hue his pedicure’s.Denise couldnt carry Hues jock strap.Look at the numbers compared to Hue’s.WTF. Worse coach in history.
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Havve to go on record and say that you were right from the jump. 1 of a few that saw it.
======================================================= Thanks,I hope that didnt hurt to much.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:50 pm
So nobody wants to help out ol Semi Pro LA to TheBay with a recap of the presser?
Punks.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:50 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Pryor as someone who put us in a position to score points, is not a joke. If you don’t see that you’re an idiot.
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he throws a rainbow duck. he was lucky he didn’t throw 5 picks.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:50 pm
CDERaider Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:44 pm
We’re stuck with Sharpie for one more season. Forget winning next year. In 2013, focus on :
* Balance the books. Get rid of bad contracts Seymour, DHB, McClain, Palmer, Kelly, Branch, Huff.
* Have a strong draft. Trade down get to get 7-8 picks, add 2-4 more quality UFA’s.
* Make good moves in FA to bring in impact leaders.
* Develop our young players. Pryor, Streater, Criner, Houston, Bilukidi, Burris, Wheeler, etc.
* Cut/Trade/Release players that aren’t getting it done.
* Set the stage for a comeback in 2014 with a new quality HC and staff, strong Defense, young offense and a new franchise QB (Pryor or otherwise).
2014 the Year of the Raiders!
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Agree.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Yes if Pryor was white, Mist1c n priest n them would have made sure he wouldn’t have ever even dreamed of himself in HOF , but since he’s black , they are already talking about going to his HOF introduction speech, it’s really sad
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this dude instantly starts the race baiting.
racist troll, you are the first to bring up skin color (as usual)
you are the one with the issue
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he’s not white, u goof.
hey coward. explain pryor’s horrible passing.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:51 pm
#18 ranked rush defense, best we have had in 10 years I believe.
Top 10 next season with DA
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JFB,
imagine if we had Kirk Morrison in the middle instead of those clowns Gaither & McClain. We’d be Top 10 already!!
December 31st, 2012 at 12:51 pm
God Bless.
DAV OUT.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:51 pm
missdick–why does pryor throw rainbow ducks? is this an nfl passer?
December 31st, 2012 at 12:51 pm
It was his first fckn game genius…I wasn’t expecting more than what I saw but I see potential. If it doesn’t work out, oh well.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Dr_robert Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:46 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Why are people comparing Palmer to, basically a rookie in Pryor?
Wasn’t expecting black Steve Young to show up but if the kid puts in work, he might be able to have a successful career as a QB.
Fck’n nonsense.
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he will never throw a good ball. he can never get there. it’s obvious.
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Bob, Pryor could have thrown for 425yds, rushed for 150yds, threw 4 TD’s and ran for 2 TD’s and you would still hate. Just stop the BS. We know you have alternative “hater” motives. Move on.
Oh and i bet Pryor may put up numbers like that real soon.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Dr_robert Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:50 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Pryor as someone who put us in a position to score points, is not a joke. If you don’t see that you’re an idiot.
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he throws a rainbow duck. he was lucky he didn’t throw 5 picks.
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Apparently in order to get in the end zone it’s better to be lucky than good.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:51 pm
coward
December 31st, 2012 at 12:52 pm
Gaither should stick, even if we draft Manti.
RRS, you and I had Pryor pegged early. Makes up for JLH and Kirk.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:52 pm
It was the best of times, it was the worst of times.
It was the day Krapp was executed, it was the day Tits got a stay of execution.
I reluctantly accepted the reality that Smiling Titty Boy would probably return in 2013, several weeks ago.
I feared that Krapp might return in 2013.
While I think retaining Smiling Titty Boy will ultimately be proven to be a mistake -
The firing of Gregg Krapp will be the greatest addition by subtraction since JaMoron was kicked to the curb.
Thank God Krapp is gone.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:52 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:37 pm
Manassamauler Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:25 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Manassamauler Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:22 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:19 pm
>. RGIII can actually stand in the pocket, read a defense, go through progressions and fire an accurate pass. Pryor hasn’t shown he can do any of those vital things.
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did you watch the game??!/
EVEN STAVE TASKER POINTED OUT HOW HE WAS IMPRESSED WITH PRYOR IN THE POCKET GOING THROUGH READS AND BEING ACCURATE?!?!
LOL
the cross posting trolls just make shid up
>> me so sorry to have to disagree with the all seeing oracle otherwise known as steve tasker
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lol
veteran former nfl player steve tasker of 4 superbowl buffalo bills.
Wr for the jim kelly and the k gun offense?
Im pretty sure he knows more about qbs and qb talent or ability to read defsENSE than you
LMFAO- STEVE TASKER OWNS YOU!!!!
>> it was Pryors FIRST NFL game okay Al sharpton!! he said he was impressed by Pryor. you don’t seem to understand context used in conversations. your english comprehension is poor. did tasker say he was impressed by rivers pocket passing? NO why not? because Rivers is a vet and its a moot point. Pryor was making his first start so Tasker made the comment. you have no clue as to how to read into intention or context and as a result cannot communicate on an sudlt level. educate yourself
December 31st, 2012 at 12:52 pm
Mistic and I have battled in here for 2+ years now, so I think mine would be an objective take. We rarely agree on matters of QB but we both like Pryor.
Pryor was pass first in every circumstance yesterday and eluded some big time pressure and made some NFL pass rushers look pretty stupid with his moves when he HAD to.
Pryor went through his progressions and made the right decision 100% of the time. Some passes dropped, some off target. Really no different than any other QB.
He obviously has room for improvement but I think his future is bright as long as he keeps working and he has someone to believe in him.
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Yup……Wasn’t so confident after Pre-season; was disappointed actually. Had to love his attitude though, and work ethic, and the fact that he WANTS to be great. But all those things don’t mean much if you can’t produce. Yesterday was his chance to prove something, and the situation wasn’t in his favor.
I think He stepped up and showed improvement in alot of areas. I think he at LEAST, he showed that he can be the #2. You can spin his performance any way you want to……..HE SUCKS…Passes off target, he got lucky…
Or, came in with no reps, no game time, thrown to the fire, and made stuff happen; put points on the board. Whatever your agenda may be.
For the record, I ALWAYS liked Pryor since college, but never endorsed him as “Our Future”…. I hoped he would, still not sure that he is but….
He impressed me Sunday, what else can I say. Keep him, work with him, develop him some more.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:52 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:29 am
Priesttj12 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:25 am
I’m going to say this and I know it’s going to meet with a lot of acrimony. I really believe that DA and Knapp were trying to set Pryor up to fail. If not for Palmer maybe they even succeed. I don’t think it’s even a question that Pryor knows those two were never in his corner. The only reason Pryor had the success he did have was Palmer took him aside and essentially did Knapp’s job for him. He gave Pryor the tools he needed to succeed he broke down the game film and showed him how to attack them. Once DA and Knapp saw Pryor’s preparedness and leadership they said if we don’t help this kid it’s going to be very clear we didn’t want to. Knapp failed Pryor and DA tried to sabotage him. IOW’s DA did it intentionally and Knapp was just incompetent.
I think mark wants to get rid of DA, I think Reggie is begging for DA’s job. However he may not be able to save it if truth comes to light and DA gets exposed as dogging and scapegoating players. DA will be one and done…………..period
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TRUTH
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Yep which is why Palmer is a stud in my book. They need to bring him back. Pryor and Palmer are like brothers from teh sounds of it. Pryor said he also looks up to Palmer as a father figured and couldnt wait for Palmer to critique his peformance.
Palmer got 6 pages of notes for pryor b4 the charger game and broke down game film
December 31st, 2012 at 12:52 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:51 pm
It was his first fckn game genius…I wasn’t expecting more than what I saw but I see potential. If it doesn’t work out, oh well.
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u see potential in his throwing? his floating ducks? that’s an nfl qb to u?
December 31st, 2012 at 12:52 pm
oakfshow Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:49 pm
415.Thec Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:46 pm
407.oakfshow Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Denise should be giveing Hue his pedicure’s.Denise couldnt carry Hues jock strap.Look at the numbers compared to Hue’s.WTF. Worse coach in history.
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Havve to go on record and say that you were right from the jump. 1 of a few that saw it.
======================================================= Thanks,I hope that didnt hurt to much.
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Not at all Bruh, I will be the first to admit I was wrong.
You hit the nail on the head from the begining.
I being a dreamer did not want t see it.
I want to be proud of the org, and want it to succeed.
Rose colored glasses, and kool aid are no place for the NFL.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:53 pm
Vic Tafur @VicTafur
Dennis Allen said he is “not tied to a specific system” so new offensive coordinator won’t have to be (probably won’t) be zone blocking guy
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thank goodness we can stop trying to fit a square into a circle. Please hire Al Saunders already.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:53 pm
437.RaiderRockstar Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:51 pm
#18 ranked rush defense, best we have had in 10 years I believe.
Top 10 next season with DA
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JFB,
imagine if we had Kirk Morrison in the middle instead of those clowns Gaither & McClain. We’d be Top 10 already!!
=================================================== Denise wont be here #1. #2 the only top 10 will be his bra size.Will never win anything with this tranny jacka$$!
December 31st, 2012 at 12:53 pm
RaidO Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Dr_robert Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:46 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Why are people comparing Palmer to, basically a rookie in Pryor?
Wasn’t expecting black Steve Young to show up but if the kid puts in work, he might be able to have a successful career as a QB.
Fck’n nonsense.
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he will never throw a good ball. he can never get there. it’s obvious.
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Bob, Pryor could have thrown for 425yds, rushed for 150yds, threw 4 TD’s and ran for 2 TD’s and you would still hate. Just stop the BS. We know you have alternative “hater” motives. Move on.
Oh and i bet Pryor may put up numbers like that real soon.
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but he didn’t do any of that. he threw for 150 yards. he said he was subpar. why can’t u admit it?
December 31st, 2012 at 12:53 pm
Watched the game again.
TP seems like no one has ever worked with him on fundamentals. Far too many balls were badly offmark. Point isn’t whether or not he can be a starter, it’s whether or not he can be a qb.
Read the papers. Almost every take is he did better than what many thought, all things considered, followed by “if he keeps at it, and really works at it, he could work himself up to being the backup” NOT STARTER, comments were he could, with much improvement, move up from 3rd in depth chart.
Fans like to post players walk on water, even though they’re drowning. 44% completion? 150 yds for the whole game? 14 points came at the end, on mop up time?
We need to draft a qb, plain and simple, because at this point we have CP, and a #3 qb.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:53 pm
The Raiders on Monday fired offensive coordinator Greg Knapp in response to a drastic drop in production.
A person familiar with the situation confirmed the news.
The Raiders also fired offensive line coach Frank Pollack, special teams coordinator Steve Hoffman and linebackers coach Johnny Holland, the team announced.
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we’re keeping two of Knapp’s cronies on staff?
Attn: John DeFilippo & Justin Griffith
pack your bags!!
December 31st, 2012 at 12:54 pm
dr_robert Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Yes if Pryor was white, Mist1c n priest n them would have made sure he wouldn’t have ever even dreamed of himself in HOF , but since he’s black , they are already talking about going to his HOF introduction speech, it’s really sad
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this dude instantly starts the race baiting.
racist troll, you are the first to bring up skin color (as usual)
you are the one with the issue
*********
he’s not white, u goof.
hey coward. explain pryor’s horrible passing.
>. if Aaron Rodgers were black mistic would be flappin about the chico native going to the HOF. mistic has no credibilty on race issues.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Rivers floats balls everywhere…Tell me he doesn’t!
December 31st, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Pryor will start next season and rightly so. We can do no worse with him. Palmer had his shot and couldn’t get it done. it’s the dawn of a new era in Raiderland. Don’t like it? Find another team…
December 31st, 2012 at 12:55 pm
By this time next year DENNIS ALLEN will be fired! If mark is iffy on DA he better do it now.. while there is mass HC available. Proven HCS
Adam schefter said most teams are going the cheap route on coaches and young guys .. but what do u see in the playoffs right now??? NOTHING BUT PROVEN HC’s or guys that have been coaching for a long time
December 31st, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Can you guys make comments without the dumb racial stuff????
No one gives a fck about al sharpton.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:56 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:52 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:29 am
Priesttj12 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:25 am
I’m going to say this and I know it’s going to meet with a lot of acrimony. I really believe that DA and Knapp were trying to set Pryor up to fail. If not for Palmer maybe they even succeed. I don’t think it’s even a question that Pryor knows those two were never in his corner. The only reason Pryor had the success he did have was Palmer took him aside and essentially did Knapp’s job for him. He gave Pryor the tools he needed to succeed he broke down the game film and showed him how to attack them. Once DA and Knapp saw Pryor’s preparedness and leadership they said if we don’t help this kid it’s going to be very clear we didn’t want to. Knapp failed Pryor and DA tried to sabotage him. IOW’s DA did it intentionally and Knapp was just incompetent.
I think mark wants to get rid of DA, I think Reggie is begging for DA’s job. However he may not be able to save it if truth comes to light and DA gets exposed as dogging and scapegoating players. DA will be one and done…………..period
+++++++=
TRUTH
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Yep which is why Palmer is a stud in my book. They need to bring him back. Pryor and Palmer are like brothers from teh sounds of it. Pryor said he also looks up to Palmer as a father figured and couldnt wait for Palmer to critique his peformance.
Palmer got 6 pages of notes for pryor b4 the charger game and broke down game film
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That’s dumb talk. A real OC will do all this and more for Pryor. Raiders do not need a $13 million dollar tutor(Palmer). Just bring in Gannon if you want to go that route..
December 31st, 2012 at 12:56 pm
poor raiders fans. so used to sucking, that u cling to any hope u can convince urself of. u deserve better than a duck-throwing qb. u deserve a qb that looks like one when he throws the ball. u poor kids. housewives and dummies. that’s who thinks pryor “did pretty good”.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:56 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:51 pm
It was his first fckn game genius…I wasn’t expecting more than what I saw but I see potential. If it doesn’t work out, oh well.
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Sadly, as I said yesterday, the word potential is like the kiss of death in the NFL. Means you don’t have it. Means the poster hopes you find it, but at this point you aren’t cutting it.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:56 pm
Yep which is why Palmer is a stud in my book. They need to bring him back. Pryor and Palmer are like brothers from teh sounds of it. Pryor said he also looks up to Palmer as a father figured and couldnt wait for Palmer to critique his peformance.
Palmer got 6 pages of notes for pryor b4 the charger game and broke down game film
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Wonder if Palmer would be open to coming back next year with an understanding that he’s a mentor/chairwarmer for Pryor and will give way to him at some point during the season.
Think Kurt Warner/Eli Manning in 2004
December 31st, 2012 at 12:56 pm
The only positive thing I heard Sharpie say is he isn’t tied to any particular ’system’. I would love to see us move to the pistol-style offense with Pryor running it. At least we would have a good running game and be exciting to watch.. McFadden would be a monster in that offense.
I bet we would win more than 4 games too..
December 31st, 2012 at 12:56 pm
Bring back Hue as OC find the old line coach Whylie? let’s get rolling. Cut Palmer, dunk Seymore, Bye bye Seabass and Shane, peace to kellys contract. I dont know if I’m down with Pryor being the #1 guy but I was never in favor of Palmer either. Palmer had 17 games to show us he’s a bust period. let cut ties with all USC Qb,s in Oakland period look in the draft or give TP a chance until the 2014 Draft we are rebuilding until 2015 anyway
December 31st, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Just like Romo and Lorenzo said” Gotta look at the guy who hired these people first.” DEnise and Reggie.Love the fact that 2 16 year vets agree with me all year.I bet most on here think they know more them though.Watch here it comes.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:57 pm
454 youre not the real kool kell
December 31st, 2012 at 12:57 pm
don’t let new HC steal the best OCs!!!!!!!
Start interviewing TODAY!!! Make some calls NOW!
December 31st, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Dr_robert Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Yes if Pryor was white, Mist1c n priest n them would have made sure he wouldn’t have ever even dreamed of himself in HOF , but since he’s black , they are already talking about going to his HOF introduction speech, it’s really sad
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this dude instantly starts the race baiting.
racist troll, you are the first to bring up skin color (as usual)
you are the one with the issue
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he’s not white, u goof.
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lol you mean your other handle even has a different race
wow your illness knows no bounds
December 31st, 2012 at 12:57 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Rivers floats balls everywhere…Tell me he doesn’t!
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u aren’t going to compare rivers to pryor are u? seriously? good God.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Dr_robert Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:35 pm
How anyone in their right mind can defend the double agent is beyond me. He is a walking talking contradiction. He says whatever comes into his pea-brain without giving much tought to coherence or common sense. he contradicted himself about 5 times in one presser.
As a Raider fan I cannot will not and don’t understand anyoen else who will support and buy into anything this man says. He is a blatant liar…………..period
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please stop being a raider fan.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Seconded. Can we start a list of those that agree:
1. Dr. Robert
2. 0ak r8rs
December 31st, 2012 at 12:58 pm
No Mas Diamante Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Pryor will start next season and rightly so. We can do no worse with him. Palmer had his shot and couldn’t get it done. it’s the dawn of a new era in Raiderland. Don’t like it? Find another team…
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LOL. pryor will never start another game in the nfl as a qb.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Not only were we 4-12, but it was a SOFT 4-12. About as soft as you could imagine.
2 of the wins came against the worst team in football.
1 of the wins came against the second-worst team in football. It also required OT. It was at home. And the other team lost its best player very early in the game and starting QB shortly after that.
1-8 to finish the season.
This is second only to the 2006 Art Shell Part II year in terms of sukcky, incompetent Raiders football. At least that year we knew Shell would be gone. Instead, now we have DA’s stupid face and stupider comments to look forward to again next year. Gotta say my apathy for the Raiders is probably at an alltime high right now.-
December 31st, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Can you guys make comments without the dumb racial stuff????
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Thec,
Holland was the only guy I wouldn’t have minded keeping of these 4 and he’s black. the dude got stuck with a rookie 4th rounder in the starting lineup and Mayor McCheese. Wheeler played BALLS OUT considering all he’s known in his NFL career was Tampa 2. Curry was injured and then dumped.
re-sign Holland & Higgins!!
December 31st, 2012 at 12:59 pm
Five GM’s fired today.
Every one of them better than Reggie.
Raider fans deserve better.
FIRE REGGIE NOW.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:59 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:25 am
I’m going to say this and I know it’s going to meet with a lot of acrimony. I really believe that DA and Knapp were trying to set Pryor up to fail. If not for Palmer maybe they even succeed.
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You’re embarrassing. Seriously, it’s like you’re this retarded little kid, who’s drunk, and just says whatever.
You really don’t know how ludicrious you sound with that “trying to set him up to fail”?
WE GET IT. YOU SAID IT, REGRET IT, AND NOW INSTEAD OF SAYIG YOU WERE OUT OF LINE, YOU KEEP REPEATING IT. It’s what retards do.
What possible reason would a new coach have, to set up a player to fail? NONE. ZERO.
Pryor stated he appreciates how DA brought him along. Pryor stated how he knows he wasn’t ready.
You’re one delusional dude.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:59 pm
Seabass aint going nowhere, best leg in the league you ignoramUs, fk wrong with you?
December 31st, 2012 at 12:59 pm
458.No Mas Diamante Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Pryor will start next season and rightly so. We can do no worse with him. Palmer had his shot and couldn’t get it done. it’s the dawn of a new era in Raiderland. Don’t like it? Find another team…
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The only way he starts for the Raiders is if Palmer is injured.
Do you people WANT to lose in 2013?
December 31st, 2012 at 12:59 pm
SilverNBlackPA Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:56 pm
Yep which is why Palmer is a stud in my book. They need to bring him back. Pryor and Palmer are like brothers from teh sounds of it. Pryor said he also looks up to Palmer as a father figured and couldnt wait for Palmer to critique his peformance.
Palmer got 6 pages of notes for pryor b4 the charger game and broke down game film
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Wonder if Palmer would be open to coming back next year with an understanding that he’s a mentor/chairwarmer for Pryor and will give way to him at some point during the season.
Think Kurt Warner/Eli Manning in 2004
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pryor is more like the third manning child. the one that never made it.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:00 pm
The FING cowboys missed the playoffs, as usual, and didn’t fire anybody. But THEY get coverage on the NFL network on black Monday. We get a ticker notice. It’s disgusting and pathetic how irrelevant we are to the rest of the footbal world.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:00 pm
Well, we’ll have to see what happens next year in reference to Pryor.
He did move the ball and if it wasn’t for a drop ball here and there, who knows…we might have won the game.
It’s all about wins for me, don’t know about you guys. Plus he was exciting to watch.
Like I said, I wish him the best but if he doesn’t, keep it moving.
I support every Raider!
December 31st, 2012 at 1:00 pm
Unless Palmer is willing to take a serious pay cut – not just a restructure, he needs to be traded/released.
One big point is Palmer has max 1-2 years in his career left (at best) and wants to play for a playoff contender – not a team in total rebuild mode.
Don’t be surprised if he is moved/released/retired.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:00 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Dr_robert Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Yes if Pryor was white, Mist1c n priest n them would have made sure he wouldn’t have ever even dreamed of himself in HOF , but since he’s black , they are already talking about going to his HOF introduction speech, it’s really sad
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this dude instantly starts the race baiting.
racist troll, you are the first to bring up skin color (as usual)
you are the one with the issue
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he’s not white, u goof.
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lol you mean your other handle even has a different race
wow your illness knows no bounds
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i’m mcfadden20? u poor pathetic creature.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:00 pm
re-sign Holland & Higgins!!
What up Rock, keep dreamin, Higgs is a car salesmen now.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:00 pm
make Jon, Shane & Seabass Raiders for life !!
December 31st, 2012 at 1:00 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Yes if Pryor was white, Mist1c n priest n them would have made sure he wouldn’t have ever even dreamed of himself in HOF , but since he’s black , they are already talking about going to his HOF introduction speech, it’s really sad
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this dude instantly starts the race baiting.
racist troll, you are the first to bring up skin color (as usual)
you are the one with the issue
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haha race baiting ? is it not true, you have attacked Palmer(white guy) on every freakin miscue, while same time defended Cam Newton , VICK , J russell n every black qb? how is it race baiting when i called out the obvious that ur trying to say fire DA because he didn’t develop a project guy who many draft scouts predicted will eventually not be a successful qb or his real position is at WR ? so tell me you don’t go out of ur way to over-rate every black QB, and make excuses for their mistakes and seasons they didn’t play well or their teams records
December 31st, 2012 at 1:01 pm
465.CDERaider Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:56 pm
The only positive thing I heard Sharpie say is he isn’t tied to any particular ’system’. I would love to see us move to the pistol-style offense with Pryor running it. At least we would have a good running game and be exciting to watch.. McFadden would be a monster in that offense.
I bet we would win more than 4 games too..
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The dude put up 150 yards and completed less than half his passes….yeah, lets build an offense around him!
We are the Oakland Retards!
December 31st, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Vic Tafur@VicTafur
Allen acknowledged that Raiders should have used Terrelle Pryor in red zone earlier this season
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Haters say what?? PRYOR haters say what? NOW THE HC who said he wasnt ready to be backup .. now saying he should have been PLAYING at least MID SEASON. LOVE IT DA.. Keep owning up to ur mistakes JUNIOR. Mark Davis must reemed his ass out
December 31st, 2012 at 1:01 pm
0ak R8rs Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Dr_robert Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:35 pm
How anyone in their right mind can defend the double agent is beyond me. He is a walking talking contradiction. He says whatever comes into his pea-brain without giving much tought to coherence or common sense. he contradicted himself about 5 times in one presser.
As a Raider fan I cannot will not and don’t understand anyoen else who will support and buy into anything this man says. He is a blatant liar…………..period
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please stop being a raider fan.
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Seconded. Can we start a list of those that agree:
1. Dr. Robert
2. 0ak r8rs
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this is a great idea. i want people to sign on who think priest and missdick are idiots. they are free to do it for me as well. i know they will go to great lengths to create handles. it will be fun.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Higgs is a car salesmen now.
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LOL. I thought somebody said they saw JLH driving an ice cream truck?
anyways – best punt returner we’ve had in the last 10 years!!
pay the man, Reggie
December 31st, 2012 at 1:03 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Can you guys make comments without the dumb racial stuff????
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Holland was the only guy I wouldn’t have minded keeping of these 4 and he’s black. ***************
the perfect reason to have anyone on the team. they’re black.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:03 pm
476.Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:59 pm
Five GM’s fired today.
Every one of them better than Reggie.
Raider fans deserve better.
FIRE REGGIE NOW.
Absolutly.As much as Denise sucks a$$.You have to point to Reggie.Al and Hue would have won at least 9 games this year maybe more.Direction would have been clear going into 2014.As of now there is none.Reggie blew it from the start.Period.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:03 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:35 pm
How anyone in their right mind can defend the double agent is beyond me. He is a walking talking contradiction
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STFU, retard.
Al Davis-Marcus Allen.
THAT’S SETTING UP SOMEONE. Your hero. Your God. He did everything he could to ruin Allen’s career. Team needed him, but Al’s vengence is worth more to him than the success of his team.
Anytime you post your dumbass contradiction BS, I’ll remind you of the biggest contradiction to this team in the last 20 years, and that’s Al Davis.
He lied about Gruden, just to get out of paying him what he was due. Blamed the fact that ND was interested in Gruden as why the team faded in the stretch..JUST SO HE WOULD HAVE TO PAY HIM.
Stop with your bulls***.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:04 pm
481.0ak r8rs Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:00 pm
The FING cowboys missed the playoffs, as usual, and didn’t fire anybody. But THEY get coverage on the NFL network on black Monday. We get a ticker notice. It’s disgusting and pathetic how irrelevant we are to the rest of the footbal world.
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Pretty sure we recvd the same coverage when we blew our playoff hopes in the last game of the season last year. Firing Greg Knapp isn’t front page news for anyone.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:04 pm
CDERaider Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:00 pm
Unless Palmer is willing to take a serious pay cut – not just a restructure, he needs to be traded/released.
One big point is Palmer has max 1-2 years in his career left (at best) and wants to play for a playoff contender – not a team in total rebuild mode.
Don’t be surprised if he is moved/released/retired.
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TRUTH, that is the smart thing to do. That is a smart “business” decision. No need to bring back a has been ‘NEVER WIN” QB with a $13 mil salary who just almost lost a lung.
Rebuilding!
December 31st, 2012 at 1:04 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:59 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:25 am
I’m going to say this and I know it’s going to meet with a lot of acrimony. I really believe that DA and Knapp were trying to set Pryor up to fail. If not for Palmer maybe they even succeed.
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You’re embarrassing. Seriously, it’s like you’re this retarded little kid, who’s drunk, and just says whatever.
You really don’t know how ludicrious you sound with that “trying to set him up to fail”?
WE GET IT. YOU SAID IT, REGRET IT, AND NOW INSTEAD OF SAYIG YOU WERE OUT OF LINE, YOU KEEP REPEATING IT. It’s what retards do.
What possible reason would a new coach have, to set up a player to fail? NONE. ZERO.
Pryor stated he appreciates how DA brought him along. Pryor stated how he knows he wasn’t ready.
You’re one delusional dude.
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ur not kell, that’s obvious. but i like u better.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:04 pm
*wouldn’t have to pay him*
December 31st, 2012 at 1:04 pm
Dakota Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:59 pm
458.No Mas Diamante Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Pryor will start next season and rightly so. We can do no worse with him. Palmer had his shot and couldn’t get it done. it’s the dawn of a new era in Raiderland. Don’t like it? Find another team…
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The only way he starts for the Raiders is if Palmer is injured.
Do you people WANT to lose in 2013?
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LOL! it really seems that way doesn’t it? i think they want the #1 pick next year.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Pryor can succeed in the pistol offense! As a drop back QB, probably not. He’s not a pure passer by any means but he can succeed in the read/option D that is the offense du jour. If you look at our skill positions – it kind of fits the team (minus Palmer of course). Bring in Chris Ault’s offensive coordinator from Nevada and lets bring it!
December 31st, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Wonder if Palmer would be open to coming back next year with an understanding that he’s a mentor/chairwarmer for Pryor and will give way to him at some point during the season.
Think Kurt Warner/Eli Manning in 2004
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That is exactly what will happen. With DA as the coach we will probably start out 0-8.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Wonder if Palmer would be open to coming back next year with an understanding that he’s a mentor/chairwarmer for Pryor and will give way to him at some point during the season.
Think Kurt Warner/Eli Manning in 2004
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Let me see if I can get through to some of the children in here…..hmmmm, yes, I got it:
Asking Palmer to warm the chair for Pryor would be like asking Mace Windu to warm the chair for Jar Jar Binks.
Got it now?
December 31st, 2012 at 1:06 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:00 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Yes if Pryor was white, Mist1c n priest n them would have made sure he wouldn’t have ever even dreamed of himself in HOF , but since he’s black , they are already talking about going to his HOF introduction speech, it’s really sad
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this dude instantly starts the race baiting.
racist troll, you are the first to bring up skin color (as usual)
you are the one with the issue
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haha race baiting ? is it not true, you have attacked Palmer(white guy) on every freakin miscue, while same time defended Cam Newton , VICK , J russell n every black qb? how is it race baiting when i called out the obvious that ur trying to say fire DA because he didn’t develop a project guy who many draft scouts predicted will eventually not be a successful qb or his real position is at WR ? so tell me you don’t go out of ur way to over-rate every black QB, and make excuses for their mistakes and seasons they didn’t play well or their teams records
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don’t worry dude. most of us know this very well.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:06 pm
LOL, don’t be hatin’ Dakota
December 31st, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Dakota Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Let me see if I can get through to some of the children in here…..hmmmm, yes, I got it:
Asking Palmer to warm the chair for Pryor would be like asking Mace Windu to warm the chair for Jar Jar Binks.
Got it now?
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Greatest Post Ever! lmao I love Star Wars! haha
December 31st, 2012 at 1:07 pm
So, now that they fired Knapp. Does Reggie allow Allen to hire his own OC again or does he step in?
December 31st, 2012 at 1:07 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Vic Tafur@VicTafur
Allen acknowledged that Raiders should have used Terrelle Pryor in red zone earlier this season
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Haters say what?? PRYOR haters say what? NOW THE HC who said he wasnt ready to be backup .. now saying he should have been PLAYING at least MID SEASON. LOVE IT DA.. Keep owning up to ur mistakes JUNIOR. Mark Davis must reemed his ass out
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WOW!!!!!!
December 31st, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Dakota Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:01 pm
465.CDERaider Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:56 pm
The only positive thing I heard Sharpie say is he isn’t tied to any particular ’system’. I would love to see us move to the pistol-style offense with Pryor running it. At least we would have a good running game and be exciting to watch.. McFadden would be a monster in that offense.
I bet we would win more than 4 games too..
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The dude put up 150 yards and completed less than half his passes….yeah, lets build an offense around him!
We are the Oakland Retards!
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hahahahahhaaa! i laughed out loud with that one.
i wish klas was here. he’d be having a lot of fun with this.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:07 pm
I like how our defense improved later in the season
December 31st, 2012 at 1:07 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Vic Tafur@VicTafur
Allen acknowledged that Raiders should have used Terrelle Pryor in red zone earlier this season
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Haters say what?? PRYOR haters say what? NOW THE HC who said he wasnt ready to be backup .. now saying he should have been PLAYING at least MID SEASON. LOVE IT DA.. Keep owning up to ur mistakes JUNIOR. Mark Davis must reemed his ass out
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I’m not sure if that’s sarcasm or not, but I love it! DA made a lot of mistakes. So did Palmer. But when Palmer F’d up he owned it. That’s what pros do. And now DA is owning it. Now that being said, the mistakes obviously have to stop. But at least he’s owning it.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Vic Tafur@VicTafur
Allen acknowledged that Raiders should have used Terrelle Pryor in red zone earlier this season
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December 31st, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Really nice to see DA man up and admit to his errors.
Now he just needs to learn from them.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:08 pm
da relied on knapp for his evaluation on pryor. he now is questioning everything offensively
December 31st, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Pryor can succeed, in certain packages, in Red ZOne, but please put down the Kool-aid , he’s not ready to be a full time starter yet
December 31st, 2012 at 1:08 pm
509.truepain Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:07 pm
I like how our defense improved later in the season
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They weren’t perfect vs SD, but if they don’t give up the opening Kick Off maybe we win
December 31st, 2012 at 1:09 pm
No im being serious about DA.. I like how he is owning up to his mistakes starting with PRYOR..
Vic tafaur also said he is not locked down to the ZBS “scheme” anymore.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:59 pm
Five GM’s fired today.
Every one of them better than Reggie.
Raider fans deserve better.
FIRE REGGIE NOW.
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I think I speak for most.
For stupid posts, such as above, instead of posting them on this blog, print it out and give it to your mailman.
addressed to yourself.
Postage due.
Thank you in advance for your cooperation.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:09 pm
DA is doing alot of changes to what he said mid season.
He must have been “talked” to by someone
December 31st, 2012 at 1:09 pm
513.C2E Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:08 pm
da relied on knapp for his evaluation on pryor. he now is questioning everything offensively
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Good he realized what an HC should be doing every week. If he wants to just focus on one side of the ball, stick to being a DC.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:09 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Higgs is a car salesmen now.
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LOL. I thought somebody said they saw JLH driving an ice cream truck?
anyways – best punt returner we’ve had in the last 10 years!!
pay the man, Reggie
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i swear it’s like being a kid in here. when i was a kid, everyone had their favorite players and it didn’t matter what they did. one of my friends swore jim zorn was the greatest qb ever. another was a chuck foreman idolizer. another would tell all day that butch johnson was the greatest receiver known to man.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Damn, WhoTF is saying that Pryor is ready to be a starter?
I think he has potential, thats just me…full time starter?
lol
December 31st, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Steve Corkran @CorkOnTheNFL
Al Saunders will be considered as a replacement for the fired Greg Knapp, coach Allen said.
Is this a tease or some cruel joke on us fans?
December 31st, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Run a scheme for pryor like they have done for Kapernick tebow and RG 3. It’s a new era.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:10 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:07 pm
So, now that they fired Knapp. Does Reggie allow Allen to hire his own OC again or does he step in?
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I highly doubt it. It’s time for Reggie to take charge of *all personnel* decisions moving forward. His azz is on the line now..
December 31st, 2012 at 1:11 pm
Early prediction 2014. Palmer back,Pryor the backup.Mcfadden back in a power run scheme.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:11 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:03 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:35 pm
How anyone in their right mind can defend the double agent is beyond me. He is a walking talking contradiction
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STFU, retard.
Al Davis-Marcus Allen.
THAT’S SETTING UP SOMEONE. Your hero. Your God. He did everything he could to ruin Allen’s career. Team needed him, but Al’s vengence is worth more to him than the success of his team.
Anytime you post your dumbass contradiction BS, I’ll remind you of the biggest contradiction to this team in the last 20 years, and that’s Al Davis.
He lied about Gruden, just to get out of paying him what he was due. Blamed the fact that ND was interested in Gruden as why the team faded in the stretch..JUST SO HE WOULD HAVE TO PAY HIM.
Stop with your bulls***.
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well, sullivan just couldn’t hold it in anymore. give him any opening, even the smallest crack, and he will unleash the al davis routine.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:11 pm
Ken Whisenhunt
Norv Turner
Pat Shurmur
Al Saunders
Plenty of good guys to be the next OC floating around out there.
Last season things were thin. Quite a buffet being spread out there right now
December 31st, 2012 at 1:11 pm
funny some of you cats think that by kicking Knapp & Hoffman to the curb we’re going to by AFC West champs next year with the same roster…
you don’t even know who will replace them or what system we’ll run. Palmer is gonna start protecting the football? All the INT’s were Knapp’s fault? McFadden is gonna stop running into the backs of his O-Liners and tripping over his own feet? He’s gonna be healthy all of 2013 and find a cure for fumblitis?
December 31st, 2012 at 1:11 pm
Lol at gumby Higgins. fastest east-west man we’ve ever had. lol
December 31st, 2012 at 1:11 pm
Whoever this KoolKell is, is cool. Can you get an original handle though? lol Just be Kool or something.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Another reason they should not bring back Palmer. DA’s thinking of putting TP in the redzone situations next year now? Just a dumb idea. That alone will cause problems. Just cut or trade Palmer is the best thing to do.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Dakota Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:01 pm
465.CDERaider Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:56 pm
The only positive thing I heard Sharpie say is he isn’t tied to any particular ’system’. I would love to see us move to the pistol-style offense with Pryor running it. At least we would have a good running game and be exciting to watch.. McFadden would be a monster in that offense.
I bet we would win more than 4 games too..
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The dude put up 150 yards and completed less than half his passes….yeah, lets build an offense around him!
We are the Oakland Retards!
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YOU LEFT OUT 3 TOUCHDOWNS ON LESS THAN 50 % OF FIRST TEAM PRACTICE REPS FOR ONLY ONE WEEK!!!!
what pryor did was remarkable
December 31st, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:29 am
Priesttj12 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:25 am
I’m going to say this and I know it’s going to meet with a lot of acrimony. I really believe that DA and Knapp were trying to set Pryor up to fail. If not for Palmer maybe they even succeed. I don’t think it’s even a question that Pryor knows those two were never in his corner. The only reason Pryor had the success he did have was Palmer took him aside and essentially did Knapp’s job for him. He gave Pryor the tools he needed to succeed he broke down the game film and showed him how to attack them. Once DA and Knapp saw Pryor’s preparedness and leadership they said if we don’t help this kid it’s going to be very clear we didn’t want to. Knapp failed Pryor and DA tried to sabotage him. IOW’s DA did it intentionally and Knapp was just incompetent.
I think mark wants to get rid of DA, I think Reggie is begging for DA’s job. However he may not be able to save it if truth comes to light and DA gets exposed as dogging and scapegoating players. DA will be one and done…………..period
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It never ceases to amaze me how storytellers begin to believe their own fables. SMH. They know what goes on….you assume. End of story.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:12 pm
i swear it’s like being a kid in here. when i was a kid, everyone had their favorite players and it didn’t matter what they did. one of my friends swore jim zorn was the greatest qb ever. another was a chuck foreman idolizer. another would tell all day that butch johnson was the greatest receiver known to man
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Your friends sound kinda stupid.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:12 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:04 pm
481.0ak r8rs Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:00 pm
The FING cowboys missed the playoffs, as usual, and didn’t fire anybody. But THEY get coverage on the NFL network on black Monday. We get a ticker notice. It’s disgusting and pathetic how irrelevant we are to the rest of the footbal world.
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Pretty sure we recvd the same coverage when we blew our playoff hopes in the last game of the season last year. Firing Greg Knapp isn’t front page news for anyone.
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Point taken. But in not looking for headlines. A 60 second blurb w a segment of the DA presser would suffice. I’ve seen Michael Vicks comments, a guy who may not even be a starter anywhere next year, literally 6 times already. We r irrelevant and ignored. Maybe deservedly so. But I don’t have to like it.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Damn baby, where have I been
December 31st, 2012 at 1:13 pm
No Mas Diamante Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Run a scheme for pryor like they have done for Kapernick tebow and RG 3. It’s a new era.
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welcome
better late than never
December 31st, 2012 at 1:13 pm
The #1 way we can help improve Pryor is give him a real RB.
McNinny is bottom of the barrel. No vision, no consistancy, doesn’t break tackles, fumbles, drops a million passes, even half azzed plenty of blitz pickups.
Worse season I ever seen from a Raider RB.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:13 pm
524.CDERaider Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:10 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:07 pm
So, now that they fired Knapp. Does Reggie allow Allen to hire his own OC again or does he step in?
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I highly doubt it. It’s time for Reggie to take charge of *all personnel* decisions moving forward. His azz is on the line now..
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I agree, he needs help. but then we start toe’n the line of Al Davis like moves of forcing your coaches upon your HC, and we all know they’re trying everything they can to seperate themselves from AL
December 31st, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Dakota Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Wonder if Palmer would be open to coming back next year with an understanding that he’s a mentor/chairwarmer for Pryor and will give way to him at some point during the season.
Think Kurt Warner/Eli Manning in 2004
______________
Let me see if I can get through to some of the children in here…..hmmmm, yes, I got it:
Asking Palmer to warm the chair for Pryor would be like asking Mace Windu to warm the chair for Jar Jar Binks.
Got it now?
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lol! wasn’t jar jar supposedly black and lucas caught flack for making him kinda dumb? i bet missdick and priest LOVE jar jar and think he’s the real hero of star wars.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:13 pm
528.RaiderRockstar Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:11 pm
funny some of you cats think that by kicking Knapp & Hoffman to the curb we’re going to by AFC West champs next year with the same roster…
you don’t even know who will replace them or what system we’ll run. Palmer is gonna start protecting the football? All the INT’s were Knapp’s fault? McFadden is gonna stop running into the backs of his O-Liners and tripping over his own feet? He’s gonna be healthy all of 2013 and find a cure for fumblitis?
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Fumblitis? Are you watching tape from 2008?
December 31st, 2012 at 1:13 pm
517.KoolKell Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:59 pm
Five GM’s fired today.
Every one of them better than Reggie.
Raider fans deserve better.
FIRE REGGIE NOW.
===============
I think I speak for most.
For stupid posts, such as above, instead of posting them on this blog, print it out and give it to your mailman.
addressed to yourself.
Postage due.
Thank you in advance for your cooperation.
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December 31st, 2012 at 1:14 pm
They fired his azz?
December 31st, 2012 at 1:14 pm
do NOT hire Saunders for OC!!
December 31st, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Teabow.Enough said!
351.Thec Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:30 pm
Quote from Bill Williamson;
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest
Pryor prove himself? I really liked what I saw from Terrelle Pryor on Sunday. He showed leadership, poise and heart.
He is not a finished product, but I think there is something Oakland can work with. There are a lot of young, dynamic quarterbacks in this league. I think Oakland had to make developing Pryor quickly a priority. Carson Palmer is 33, expensive, and not improving.
If Pryor makes big strides in the offseason, I don’t think it would be a terrible idea for Oakland to consider handing him the starting job. This team will be still rebuilding for the next couple of years. Might as well give the kid a chance.
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Another guy changing his stance on PRYOR. So now we have DENNIS ALLEN admitting he should have been playing earlier.. and a ESPN writer who said same thing as all the other trolls here. No all thats left is the pryor haters / trolls who dont wanna believe. Pryor scored 3tds in half the reps in practice and not starting in 2 1/2 years. Leinart was taking notes
December 31st, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Never cared about media attention.
We really are stepchildren when it comes to ESP and other big media outlets now. And yes, deservedly so.
You’ll see more commercials with Raider players and more screen time on ESPN when we start winning again.
I couldn’t care less.
Just want Ws.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:13 pm
The #1 way we can help improve Pryor is give him a real RB.
McNinny is bottom of the barrel. No vision, no consistancy, doesn’t break tackles, fumbles, drops a million passes, even half azzed plenty of blitz pickups.
Worse season I ever seen from a Raider RB.
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Harvey “Wrong Way” Williams v2.0
December 31st, 2012 at 1:15 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Dakota Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:01 pm
465.CDERaider Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:56 pm
The only positive thing I heard Sharpie say is he isn’t tied to any particular ’system’. I would love to see us move to the pistol-style offense with Pryor running it. At least we would have a good running game and be exciting to watch.. McFadden would be a monster in that offense.
I bet we would win more than 4 games too..
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The dude put up 150 yards and completed less than half his passes….yeah, lets build an offense around him!
We are the Oakland Retards!
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YOU LEFT OUT 3 TOUCHDOWNS ON LESS THAN 50 % OF FIRST TEAM PRACTICE REPS FOR ONLY ONE WEEK!!!!
what pryor did was remarkable
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I’m still not sure about DA. But I know this. THANK GOD MISTIC IS NOT OUR COACH OR HAS ANYTHING TO DO W THIS TEAM IN ANYWAY. I’d have to become a jags fan.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:15 pm
Point taken. But in not looking for headlines. A 60 second blurb w a segment of the DA presser would suffice. I’ve seen Michael Vicks comments, a guy who may not even be a starter anywhere next year, literally 6 times already. We r irrelevant and ignored. Maybe deservedly so. But I don’t have to like it.
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True, but i’d rather Knapp as our OC for a second time around be what it is. A fart in the wind. Well, actually it was a fart in the car of a year long road trip. But we finally get to crack a window.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:15 pm
No Mas Diamante Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Run a scheme for pryor like they have done for Kapernick tebow and RG 3. It’s a new era.
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those guys can pass. pryor can’t.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:15 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:13 pm
The #1 way we can help improve Pryor is give him a real RB.
McNinny is bottom of the barrel. No vision, no consistancy, doesn’t break tackles, fumbles, drops a million passes, even half azzed plenty of blitz pickups.
Worse season I ever seen from a Raider RB.
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You were telling us how great Knapp would be and how great Romney would be
Whoop hoooo.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:16 pm
True, but i’d rather Knapp as our OC for a second time around be what it is. A fart in the wind. Well, actually it was a fart in the car of a year long road trip. But we finally get to crack a window.
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A small car with no ventilation or AC.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:16 pm
When you get outplayed by an NFL vagabond (Goodson), a collegiate WR (Reece) and an undrafted rookie (Stewart) AND YOU MADE TWICE AS MUCH AS THE THREE COMBINED, it is time to kick rocks.
Punt boulders.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:16 pm
So Denise Allen keeps his job?
December 31st, 2012 at 1:17 pm
551.KoolKell Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:15 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:13 pm
The #1 way we can help improve Pryor is give him a real RB.
McNinny is bottom of the barrel. No vision, no consistancy, doesn’t break tackles, fumbles, drops a million passes, even half azzed plenty of blitz pickups.
Worse season I ever seen from a Raider RB.
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You were telling us how great Knapp would be and how great Romney would be
Whoop hoooo.
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It was just Huggy Bear Jr. part 2.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:17 pm
SilverNBlackPA Says:
Wonder if Palmer would be open to coming back next year with an understanding that he’s a mentor/chairwarmer for Pryor and will give way to him at some point during the season.
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If at some point during the season means the following season, sure.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:17 pm
RaidO Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Another reason they should not bring back Palmer. DA’s thinking of putting TP in the redzone situations next year now? Just a dumb idea. That alone will cause problems. Just cut or trade Palmer is the best thing to do.
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cutting pryor an even better idea.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:17 pm
Tebow can pass?
lol
I think the University of Miami is looking for a QB coach, you should give them a call. I have a friend who works there.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:17 pm
552.LA to TheBay Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:16 pm
True, but i’d rather Knapp as our OC for a second time around be what it is. A fart in the wind. Well, actually it was a fart in the car of a year long road trip. But we finally get to crack a window.
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A small car with no ventilation or AC.
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After taco night at Mario Henderson’s mom’s house.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:17 pm
December 31st, 2012 at 1:13 pm
The #1 way we can help improve Pryor is give him a real RB.
McNinny is bottom of the barrel. No vision, no consistancy, doesn’t break tackles, fumbles, drops a million passes, even half azzed plenty of blitz pickups.
Worse season I ever seen from a Raider RB.
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McFadden will redeem himself. But you will always be remembered for supporting Slowlando McLazy and Greg Knapp!
SHAME!
December 31st, 2012 at 1:18 pm
LA To TheBay Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:12 pm
i swear it’s like being a kid in here. when i was a kid, everyone had their favorite players and it didn’t matter what they did. one of my friends swore jim zorn was the greatest qb ever. another was a chuck foreman idolizer. another would tell all day that butch johnson was the greatest receiver known to man
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Your friends sound kinda stupid.
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no moreso than the idiot pryor lovers.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:18 pm
After seeing the way Pryor handled himself, losing those two picks for Palmer feels horrible. Excited seeing this organization making tough decisions and moving in the right direction. Cutting the fat and horrendous contracts. Am I drinking the kool aid still? With a better option at OC and some key FA’s\Draft Picks, this team could be good.
If you remember DA was hired late, way after all other HC’s and assistants had been plucked. Knapp was by no means DA’s first choice. With them getting a fast move on the offseason, it’ll be interesting to see what they’re able to bring in. Whisenhunt tops my list at the moment.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:18 pm
I loved Chuck Foreman!
December 31st, 2012 at 1:18 pm
About 4 years ago everyone in here was screaming for a new GM and how much we needed to be like every other team in this league.
I tried to get you guys to understand that doesn’t gaurantee anything it doesn’t gaurantee success it just gaurantees that you will be just another team like everyoen else. We will no longer have a separate identity which sets us apart as unigue and special.
We are now just another team with with a GM who’s clueless as to what a great HC even LOOKS like. he came in arrogant and thinking he somehow had the secret to success because he came from the Green Bay Packers so some he was special.
Now you know he is NOT, he’s green and he learning on the job as to whether he will EVER be a great GM is totally a wait and see proposition.
Everyone had these pre-ordained GM’s who were special gurus and had more than Mr Davis could ever hope for eventho he was in the HOF.
Well just check your AP reports and watch any sports news outlet and you’ll find some of them just were fired from their jobs and some were fired last year. Scott Pioli was supposed to be some godsent everyone wished we could get him. Well take a look at his record the last 4 years. Tell me you still think he’s special and will never sign a bad contract and miss on a player.
News Flash!! They all do, GM in the NFL and HC are the two most difficult jobs in this league, twice as hard as being a QB. Their jobs NEVER stop and the amount of work involved is mindboggling. You need so much help interms of assistants and pro-personnel it would intimidate the most knowledgable of CEO’s in other businesses.
Reggie is a personnel man he is far from a GM and he may never be a great GM eventho I would hire him as a director of pro-personnel but he will take years to be half the GM Al Davis was if EVER.
Hopefully Raider fans having seen this mess for a year have a tad bit more respect for the old man and what his struggles were as he aged. He wanted to win now and it caused him to do things maybe he doesn’t do if he is much younger.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:18 pm
JFB, you can sure pivot.
In a threesome you’re the pivot man?
December 31st, 2012 at 1:19 pm
So M1st1c is making excuses for a guy who was on the roster all year and threw lame duck passes, but he wouldn’t get over Palmer’s first game with us in which he came into after half time down 21 points n threw 3-4 ints, what if Palmer was white, he would have said the obvious that Palmer was thrown into fire with out any playbook etc etc
December 31st, 2012 at 1:19 pm
I am not only looking at stats and mechanic with Pryor. I look at how he did not let the game get away from him when the Raiders were behind. He brought the Raiders back into the game. It was something that the coaching staff said he was not ready for!!!! Another misstep for coach Allen. who’s counting right? now that coach Allen has ben wrong in just about every thing he instituted ,(stubbornly wrong) why would he not be receptive to a change in direction? That is not the attitude he came here with. And leave the culture change to the PR team and start winning games. That is what Allen is here for.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Oakfshow Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:13 pm
517.KoolKell Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:59 pm
Five GM’s fired today.
Every one of them better than Reggie.
Raider fans deserve better.
FIRE REGGIE NOW.
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December 31st, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Interesting to look back on McKenzie’s comments from 5 weeks ago..
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Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie sat down Friday with seven local writers to discuss what’s gone wrong this 3-8 season and what he’s looking for from his team the rest of the way. It was the first time he’s talked to reporters in more than a month.
McKenzie said suspended linebacker Rolando McClain’s “actions” were not a first-time deal and there’s a “possibility” that he’s played his last game with the Raiders.
McClain has “not been apologetic,” McKenzie said.
McClain’s behavior has apparently been an ongoing issue.
“His suspension .. doesn’t mean this is the first time … “oooh,” McKenzie said. “We wouldn’t suspend him unless it was something major, including all that stuff off the field and on the field and all that. I think a two-game suspension pretty much says it’s an issue.”
Other quick hits from the 42-minute interview:
^ McKenzie said he is ”still pleased with (coach) Dennis” Allen. … I’m sure he has some rookie mistakes but overall I’m happy with Dennis.”
^ The GM is “disappointed with and not happy about” the 3-8 record — “it’s on players to do your job”
^ McKenzie: “My bad’s get old after a while.”
^ McKenzie would’t go into who’s safe and who’s not until after season-long evaluation is over, but made clear he has input on Allen’s coaching staff
^ As far as the problems running the ball go, McKenzie said, “You gotta knock people off the ball, I don’t care what scheme it is.”
^ McKenzie said he knew coming in team had no depth — “we couldn’t afford to lose one player (in offseason), not one.”
“I wish I had a whole lot of depth to rotate and figure out who can do it better, but we’re limited.”
^ McKenzie said Michael Huff is definitely a safety and not a cornerback in Raiders’ long-term plans
^ McKenzie: “We’re going to upgrade at a lot of positions.”
^ Part of changing culture here, McKenzie said, is getting players to be leaders and hold others accountable. “Can’t say I had that coming in,” he said
^ McKenzie has seen some players with leadership qualities start to emerge but there are no dynamic presences on Raiders
^ Over the next five games, McKenzie wants team “to play well, not give up big runs.” Isn’t that tall order based on last 4 games, I asked. “No, it’s not”
^ McKenzie explained cutting veteran cornerback Pat Lee 3 games ago — He was just a guy “to get you by games,” wasn’t dominant, didn’t help on special teams
^ McKenzie said he is with the Raiders fans who want to see QB Terrelle Pryor play this season. “That”s the only way I can evaluate him.”
December 31st, 2012 at 1:20 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Pryor as someone who put us in a position to score points, is not a joke. If you don’t see that you’re an idiot.
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44%
150 yds
Throws wobbly ducks, horribly off target.
Strike three, you’re OUT.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Your friends sound kinda stupid.
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no moreso than the idiot pryor lovers.
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Fair enough.
Not in love with him but I like hard workers and guys who take the game seriously.
I like wins even more, so if Pryor is not the guy to take us to the promised land, so be it.
I’m just saying he’s got some tools in the tool belt and he’s worth working on.
He would have started like 9 games last year if Al didn’t die.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Denise is NOT capable of a role as head coach.Reggie will be looking for a new job the same day.John Madden should just have minded his own fkn buisness.Boom,smack,biff. Moron!
December 31st, 2012 at 1:20 pm
JFB in a threesome you’re the pivot man?
December 31st, 2012 at 1:20 pm
good now reggie admitted his mistake, mark pimp slapped both of them (ala cable buyame!)…get rid of these weak aszsz zone blocking lineman, zbs and get some big nast y mofos in there. we need speed back at wr and te….
December 31st, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Saunders hasn’t been a play caller since 2007 for the Redskins, where he failed miserably during that 2-year stint!!
you want to hire him based upon the success he had as Chiefs OC (2001-2005) under Dick Vermeil??
December 31st, 2012 at 1:21 pm
We need a new stadium in Oakland….immediately. Who the heck is running the city? This is freakin’ embarrassing! Nobody wants to coach or play for a team with no future.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:22 pm
575.RaiderRockstar Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Saunders hasn’t been a play caller since 2007 for the Redskins, where he failed miserably during that 2-year stint!!
you want to hire him based upon the success he had as Chiefs OC (2001-2005) under Dick Vermeil??
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No, i don’t necesarily want Saunders, but we could’ve suffered a year with him instead of Knapp.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:22 pm
Mckenzie needs to figure out how to draft Stephan Taylor
December 31st, 2012 at 1:22 pm
oh yeah and fire that women denise allen…
December 31st, 2012 at 1:22 pm
LA To TheBay Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:42 pm
377.rooch Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:37 pm
DA is a Young Coach. I think with a whole season under his belt and a real OC whose knows how to work with his players Strengths like Hue Jax did, this team can be in good shape.
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You guys realize that Hue was the OC right? Al Saunders was more or less an assistant offensive coach?
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Yes I do realize this. That is why I said it.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:22 pm
572. I agree. What the heck has John Madden done for the Raiders since he left coaching? Not a darn thing.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:22 pm
I don’t think it will be saunders, please no saunders, bring in legit OC, like Norv or whisenhunt
December 31st, 2012 at 1:23 pm
JFB,
Why would you use the word “ninny” to label a football player?
I think a good majority of them could be less then intelligent, as the word “ninny” suggests?
Maybe your not to smart either? Maybe you should invest in a library card or something. It’s free, Dummy….
December 31st, 2012 at 1:23 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:20 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Pryor as someone who put us in a position to score points, is not a joke. If you don’t see that you’re an idiot.
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44%
150 yds
Throws wobbly ducks, horribly off target.
Strike three, you’re OUT.
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He did put us in position to score and we did correct? First rushing TD in how many games? I never said he was a passing specialist, just said I see potential.
Grow up and stop stealing ppls handles. lol Thats for teenagers or adults who live in their moms basement.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Heck no to Al Saunders as Offensive Coordinator (play caller) :
1 – RaiderRockstar
December 31st, 2012 at 1:24 pm
where are all the zbs lovers? zone defense lovers?
crickets….
December 31st, 2012 at 1:24 pm
Saunders was just Hue’s assistant in the Booth. But he would’ve not wasted a year in scheme changes and couldn’t have possible been any worse at play calling or making adjustments than Knapp. At least we wouldve had some continuty on the one side of the ball that needed it, and complete change on the side that did.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:24 pm
Once Dany after The season ends they fire these guys? LOL, that was Mark Davis, no way does Mr. Polite Allen slam the door on Monday. DA must have seen the ax very close to his neck too. Happy new year you enumployed bstrds! Hahahaha!
December 31st, 2012 at 1:24 pm
JF btch in a threesome you’re the pivot man?
December 31st, 2012 at 1:25 pm
I’ll admit that installing a college level offense for a college level quarterback would be a great idea….
If the Raiders played NCAA football.
That’s the reason that out of HUNDREDS of NCAA quarterbacks only a very few make it to the NFL and succeed over a long period of time.
Defenses are much faster and more sophisticated in the NFL. College gimmicks do not work long term.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Just to let everyone know, I’ve turned over a new leaf. No longer shall I act the baffoon, the instigator, the stationary defenseless target who’s only reply is stating you are a cross posting troll. I’ve seen the error of my ways, and have decided, as a New Years Resolution, to get in touch with my feminine side.
Waffling may occur. Hissyfits are inevitable. Threats to slap you silly might surface.
Be please know that in spite of my genderfication, making up over tea and crumpets sounds like a smashing way to move on.
group hug??
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December 31st, 2012 at 1:26 pm
One day after the season ends I meant… I hate you autocorrect!
December 31st, 2012 at 1:26 pm
JFBtch, holla at me
December 31st, 2012 at 1:26 pm
denise was crying…”please please dont fire me…ill fire who you want…please…”
December 31st, 2012 at 1:26 pm
582.mcfadden20. Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:22 pm
I don’t think it will be saunders, please no saunders, bring in legit OC, like Norv or whisenhunt
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Wisenhunt will get another HC job, if not, he and Norv will get better offers than what the Raiders have to Offer: Come coach our Offense for the league minimum for a Coach even you are more qualified than.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:27 pm
#590
A beacon of light in a blog of darkness!
December 31st, 2012 at 1:27 pm
Al and Hue would have won at least nine games this year.Mike Bush would still be here along with some others.Would have some clear direction going into 2014.As it is now,we have no direction,no hope.Say by by to the zone blocking scheme is the only bright spot. I LOVE being right all the time.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:27 pm
Unbelievable. Raiders go from 8-8 to 4-12. Broncos go from 8-8 to soon to be Super Bowl Champs.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:28 pm
If they can’t get Whisenhunt for OC, they should bring back Hue Jax. He had this team putting up points and he also had DMac looking like a beast.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:29 pm
Saunders would be yet another add to the coaching staff that nobody else wants…
I’d like to see Mark, Reggie & Dennis compete with other teams for an OC’s services and pay the man a decent salary. then give him the keys and let him do his thing
Saunders was open for EVERY TEAM in the league the past 5 seasons. Raiders are the only ones to bite and he wasn’t even the play caller. KC gave him an interview this past offseason, but quickly decided to go in a different direction. When KC says you’re bad, you’re REALLY bad (see Steve Hoffman fired, why did we hire him again?)
December 31st, 2012 at 1:29 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:23 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:20 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Pryor as someone who put us in a position to score points, is not a joke. If you don’t see that you’re an idiot.
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44%
150 yds
Throws wobbly ducks, horribly off target.
Strike three, you’re OUT.
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He did put us in position to score and we did correct? First rushing TD in how many games? I never said he was a passing specialist, just said I see potential.
Grow up and stop stealing ppls handles. lol Thats for teenagers or adults who live in their moms basement.
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Again, potential means LOSER.
Don’t shoot the messenger.
You are free, however, to send money.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:29 pm
JFBtch, take Gerg Knapp and that Growkowski mfkr and stick them up your azz, and move to Mississippi
December 31st, 2012 at 1:29 pm
Reggie should really consider Lovie Smith to replace Dennis Allen, or even Wisenhunt but i’d rather bring in Smith. Tommy Boy will have to un-roll his dollar bills and step up to make that happen though
December 31st, 2012 at 1:29 pm
A short term soloution (Redskins ‘gimmick’ offense) is better than a 1/3 of my life worth of losing.
Washington is going to the playoffs, we aren’t, again.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:30 pm
KoolKell,
In a threesome, are you the guy paying the other two dudes to bang your wife?
December 31st, 2012 at 1:30 pm
Ok Dkchead, upside work for you? lol
December 31st, 2012 at 1:30 pm
604.MiamiRaider78 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:29 pm
A short term soloution (Redskins ‘gimmick’ offense) is better than a 1/3 of my life worth of losing.
Washington is going to the playoffs, we aren’t, again.
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My thoughts exactly.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:31 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:29 pm
JFBtch, take Gerg Knapp and that Growkowski mfkr and stick them up your azz, and move to Mississippi if you can hold them up there
December 31st, 2012 at 1:31 pm
Yep Knapp had a few posters swingin from his sack this season, JFB and Raider Riff to name a couple, they cannot be happy with this news lol
December 31st, 2012 at 1:31 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:26 pm
JFBtch, holla at me
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JFB, this is not me.
Watch out, he has a purse.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:31 pm
JFBtch, take Gerg Knapp and that Growkowski mfkr and stick them up your azz, and move to Mississippi
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Mississippi called, and they went their spelling back
December 31st, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Pryor would excel in Chip Kelly’s offense
December 31st, 2012 at 1:32 pm
I forgotthe
December 31st, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Rooch,
Mark & Reggie made it clear they didn’t want Hue retained. you think they’d welcome him back now at a lower level position?
it’s possible, but not likely.
I hope Hue Jax can convince Sandy Eggo to hire him as Head Coach!!
that would make SD’s self destruction complete
December 31st, 2012 at 1:32 pm
fvck whisenhunt he svcks….dont come here loser….
December 31st, 2012 at 1:32 pm
JFBtch, take Gerg Knapp and that Growkowski mfkr and stick them up your azz, and move to Mississippi if you can hold them up there. If your sphincter can hold them
December 31st, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Now hire Gruden.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Stevie Wonder can see that the young man Pryor HAS IT!
Sure he made a few bad reads and some misfires but overall he did a fine job.The guy is a LEADER.You could see that when he went in the middle of the scrum between Goodson and Spikes.That’s what soldier’s do!! They take charge of their post!!! I like his attitude towards the game and this team. Cmon IDIOT Coach and GM give this guy a chance next year.During the offseason put in some Pryor packages the way the Niners did Kaepernick.If Carson keeps doing his Tony Romo impersonations at critical times, put Terrelle in!
And BTW,IDIOT COACH & GM WHY DID IT TAKE SO LONG TO LET THE GUY PLAY A FULL GAME?
December 31st, 2012 at 1:33 pm
There’s nothing wrong with Al Saunders,was incredible with Priest holmes for some years.Take him easy decision.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:30 pm
KoolKell,
In a threesome, are you the guy paying the other two dudes to bang your wife?
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I tried. After they saw my wife, they wanted triple.
She’s still po’ed at me that I wouldn’t pay.
We’re thinking about renting a shetland pony. apparently they aren’t as picky.
We’ll see.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:33 pm
KKell#1 and KKell#2?
This place needs avatars to prevent some of this crap.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Gotta bring in guys who want to coach OUR Players, not guys who want to change things so drastically for what they think MIGHT work.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Knapp will be getting an NFL paycheck long after half our players.
But, he did suck this year. Should have shelved McHalfAzz after the Miami game.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Stablersbeard Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:25 pm
I’ll admit that installing a college level offense for a college level quarterback would be a great idea….
If the Raiders played NCAA football.
That’s the reason that out of HUNDREDS of NCAA quarterbacks only a very few make it to the NFL and succeed over a long period of time.
Defenses are much faster and more sophisticated in the NFL. College gimmicks do not work long term.
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than please explain how rgIII kappy and wilson are in the playoffs with these offenses?
They are pro ofenses that have had option added to them.
wake up and stop hating
December 31st, 2012 at 1:34 pm
The read option devastated Demarcus Ware.
Pryor would be great at it.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:35 pm
Kirk Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:34 pm
The read option devastated Demarcus Ware.
Pryor would be great at it.
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Ding ding ding!
December 31st, 2012 at 1:35 pm
The Attack of The Clones.
I apologize to the real Kell, I have no riffs with you.
The other Kell seems like a prick but is pretty funny. lol
December 31st, 2012 at 1:35 pm
619.oakfshow Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:33 pm
There’s nothing wrong with Al Saunders,was incredible with Priest holmes for some years.Take him easy decision.
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Al Saunders shouldve been this years choice. Now it’s time to find someone fresh. I’d rather wonder what could’ve been then sit here same time next year thinking, “oh that’s why”
December 31st, 2012 at 1:36 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:30 pm
KoolKell,
In a threesome, are you the guy paying the other two dudes to bang your wife?
========================================
Dayum that’s funny.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:36 pm
Man it will be two more years before we know DA mckenzie will be there longer so quit hating knapp was a issue let’s just hope for the same offense from pre DA and look into the future for the D!
December 31st, 2012 at 1:36 pm
Pryor can go 4-12 just as well as Palmer can, for a lot less money.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:36 pm
I have bad news for you.
DA won’t reply. So please stop asking him questions.
It’s a blog, for crying out loud.
Yelling at your screen is not the answer.
However, if you are blind, and thinking about a 3some to start off your new year?
HOLLA
ravenaider Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Stevie Wonder can see that the young man Pryor HAS IT!
Sure he made a few bad reads and some misfires but overall he did a fine job.The guy is a LEADER.You could see that when he went in the middle of the scrum between Goodson and Spikes.That’s what soldier’s do!! They take charge of their post!!! I like his attitude towards the game and this team. Cmon IDIOT Coach and GM give this guy a chance next year.During the offseason put in some Pryor packages the way the Niners did Kaepernick.If Carson keeps doing his Tony Romo impersonations at critical times, put Terrelle in!
And BTW,IDIOT COACH & GM WHY DID IT TAKE SO LONG TO LET THE GUY PLAY A FULL GAME?
December 31st, 2012 at 1:36 pm
If Hue Jackson comes to the afc west,he will absolutly dominate us for years.Be carefull what you wish for.More ignorent fans.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Collinsworth had it right last night.
If you have a Brady, Manning(s), Rodgers, Matt Ryan type, that is the best thing you can have.
If not, you run a circus act for an offense and play ball-control and maybe sneak into the playoffs.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Regarding Pryor, he still plays scared. Guy is too worried about the rush than reading the secondary. Too many lofts on his back foot. When he does step up he throws well. He just doesn’t look comfortable in teh Pocket.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:38 pm
ravenaider Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Stevie Wonder can see that the young man Pryor HAS IT!
++++++++++
ONLY blind people think Pryor has “it”.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:38 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Knapp will be getting an NFL paycheck long after half our players.
But, he did suck this year. Should have shelved McHalfAzz after the Miami game.
—————-
You and Knapp can hump your wife tonight. He deserves that much
December 31st, 2012 at 1:39 pm
I think it wise for the raiders to send soem feelers out to coaches and if they get a coupe of hits from the guys out there than fire allen
December 31st, 2012 at 1:39 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Stablersbeard Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:25 pm
I’ll admit that installing a college level offense for a college level quarterback would be a great idea….
If the Raiders played NCAA football.
That’s the reason that out of HUNDREDS of NCAA quarterbacks only a very few make it to the NFL and succeed over a long period of time.
Defenses are much faster and more sophisticated in the NFL. College gimmicks do not work long term.
=============
than please explain how rgIII kappy and wilson are in the playoffs with these offenses?
They are pro ofenses that have had option added to them.
========================================
What we saw yesterday with Seattle, Washington and the Whiners is basically the pro offense. Some read option but not much. All three of those Q’s can run a pro style offense. DC’s now have tape on the read option and are devising ways of stopping it. This offseason I would not be surprised if DC’s figured a way to stop it.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:39 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Knapp will be getting an NFL paycheck long after half our players.
But, he did suck this year. Should have shelved McHalfAzz after the Miami game.
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McHalfAzz is a much better label, JFB. I can concur with that.
You have to eat crow with that Knapp support though. Don’t think he will ever be an OC again.
Career Position Coach will be his future.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:39 pm
rooch Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:28 pm
If they can’t get Whisenhunt for OC, they should bring back Hue Jax. He had this team putting up points and he also had DMac looking like a beast.
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Rooch?
I think you meant Pooch.
Change your handle, and try it again.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:39 pm
People still think Hue Jackson is getting a HC gig?
LOL…..will he even make it to the round of token Rooney rule guy this season?
December 31st, 2012 at 1:39 pm
Solution = GRUDEN. No doubt.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:40 pm
The knapp lovers jock is dry. Wanna try mine?
December 31st, 2012 at 1:41 pm
Dakota Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:38 pm
ravenaider Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Stevie Wonder can see that the young man Pryor HAS IT!
++++++++++
ONLY blind people think Pryor has “it”.
===========================================
And even blind people would ask the person next to them how Pryor looks at which the other person would say “not very good at all”. Unless that other person is also blind.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:41 pm
Harbaugh took over a 49er D that was ranked 16th.
It wasn’t all that until he and Fangio arrived.
And comparing Warner/Eli to Palmer/Pryor? lol. Eli and Pryor compared? Sigh.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:41 pm
Everyone here is talking about PRYOR as a finish product. He is not even close to being fully grown.
Let a coach develope him and watch out. The kid wants to learn bad and get better. If u can develope him then look out.
You wont find a qb in this draft in that mold. Raiders dont even need to go anywhere near STATUESQUE quarterback espeically behind this OLINE
December 31st, 2012 at 1:41 pm
Sounds like we will be goin back to more of a power scheme, great news for most of us and DMC, not so much for a few ZBS lovers huh
December 31st, 2012 at 1:41 pm
some people need to get reality check , this isn’t Madden13 , yeah go ahead sign a backup rb to big time money, when our starters s8ck at most positions and we were unable to upgrade them , this isn’t freaking 1970 with no salary cap , and things aren’t as easy as it looks in madden13 franchise lmao, put down the pipe
December 31st, 2012 at 1:41 pm
oakfshow Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:36 pm
If Hue Jackson comes to the afc west,he will absolutly dominate us for years.Be carefull what you wish for.More ignorent fans.
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Dominate us??
You mean, like whips, handcuffs, and such??
Giving me the vapors something fierce, I must admit..
This new side of me has me flustered.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:41 pm
642.Just Fire Baby Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:39 pm
People still think Hue Jackson is getting a HC gig?
LOL…..will he even make it to the round of token Rooney rule guy this season?
He will be a HC in 14,and I will be here to remind you of how smart your not.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:42 pm
I wish we could somehow purchase a bra, have all the blogsters sign it and mail it to Dennis.
“Heres to you tits, breast regression ever!”
December 31st, 2012 at 1:42 pm
I hope they interview some people before they settle on Saunders.
Mark didn’t interview anyone before he hired Reggie, and then Reggie didn’t interview anyone to my knowledge before he hired Dennis Allen.
Interviews are important people! Shows you that some people might be more competent than the first guy who walks through the door! Fawq!
December 31st, 2012 at 1:42 pm
I really hope Norv Turner is hired and this is why:
1.- He uses all and i mean all the players in offense wr’s te’s rb’s fb’s
2.- His offense might no be as explosive as hue’s but he is vertical and very creative with his rb’s not to mention with Te’s
3.- Palmer-Turner combo is as good as it gets.
4.- Not Sean Payton but very unpredictable play caller
December 31st, 2012 at 1:42 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Regarding Pryor, he still plays scared. Guy is too worried about the rush than reading the secondary. Too many lofts on his back foot. When he does step up he throws well. He just doesn’t look comfortable in teh Pocket.
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Pryor did not play scared. You are full of crap.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:42 pm
Pryor is like Bruce Gradkowski, moves the ball but doesn’t look good doing it.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:43 pm
Seriously,they fired his monkey ass?
December 31st, 2012 at 1:43 pm
Harbaugh took over a 49er D that was ranked 16th.
It wasn’t all that until he and Fangio arrived.
***
LOL!!
Alex = clueless
December 31st, 2012 at 1:43 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:40 pm
The knapp lovers jock is dry. Wanna try mine?
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Forgot to add, size XSmall.
But it stretches.
I think.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:44 pm
656
Nice.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:44 pm
655.RaidO Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:42 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Regarding Pryor, he still plays scared. Guy is too worried about the rush than reading the secondary. Too many lofts on his back foot. When he does step up he throws well. He just doesn’t look comfortable in teh Pocket.
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Pryor did not play scared. You are full of crap.
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He was jittery in the pocket, and was looking more at the Oline than for his WR’s. He looked far more comfortable when the plays broke down and he could scramble for time.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:44 pm
http://www.raiders.com/media-vault/videos/Press-Conference-Coach-Allen-Monday/588b2919-5e02-4cd8-960c-3421573ceeb4
December 31st, 2012 at 1:44 pm
What bothers me about the firing of Knapp and Hoffman is, why didn’t Reggie see this before he hired these guys. The majority of us (except Reggie’s blind followers) knew our offense and special teams did not need a major change and knew Knapp an Hoffman were a disaster waiting to happen. How did Reggie miss this. I would like to see him explain his logic.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:45 pm
THE DEFINITIVE PRYOR EXPERIENCE!!
vs and completion%:
USC 44%
Wisconsin 38%
Penn St. 47%
Iowa 54%
Wisconsin 50%
Miami 44%
NFL Debut: 46% I see a pattern of suck.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:45 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:39 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Stablersbeard Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:25 pm
I’ll admit that installing a college level offense for a college level quarterback would be a great idea….
If the Raiders played NCAA football.
That’s the reason that out of HUNDREDS of NCAA quarterbacks only a very few make it to the NFL and succeed over a long period of time.
Defenses are much faster and more sophisticated in the NFL. College gimmicks do not work long term.
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than please explain how rgIII kappy and wilson are in the playoffs with these offenses?
They are pro ofenses that have had option added to them.
========================================
What we saw yesterday with Seattle, Washington and the Whiners is basically the pro offense. Some read option ….
you still dont know what you are looking at do you?
Also you are speaking as if you have watched them all year and you have not?
seattle ran more zone read yetserday than they have almost all year and wilson scored a td to win on that play. So di rgiII score on it yesterday.
It sint the zone read play per se, it is also the formation and play design, pistol shotgun spread.
It isnt just zone read, but also triple option in washington.
We saw it on the first play of the game with pryor the ghost reverse motion behind him and dmac up the gut!!
get a clue, they havnt stopped anything they havnt caught up to anything.
THE WAVE OF THE FUTURE OWNS YOU!!!
December 31st, 2012 at 1:45 pm
Norv turner would be the best fit as oc more than whisenhunt, He likes to go vertical which is what our recevers do best, he works well with a stationary qb he’ll do wonders with palmer, he can coach a dominate run game (ladanian) I think he could get the most outta Dmac, he gets along with tarver so he wpuldnt be completly foreign to coaching staff… I like the idea of norv as oc the most.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:45 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:41 pm
Everyone here is talking about PRYOR as a finish product. He is not even close to being fully grown.
Let a coach develope him and watch out. The kid wants to learn bad and get better. If u can develope him then look out.
You wont find a qb in this draft in that mold. Raiders dont even need to go anywhere near STATUESQUE quarterback espeically behind this OLINE
_______________________________________________________
Exactly!!!!
December 31st, 2012 at 1:45 pm
Teabow.Enough said!
351.Thec Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:30 pm
Quote from Bill Williamson;
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest
Pryor prove himself? I really liked what I saw from Terrelle Pryor on Sunday. He showed leadership, poise and heart.
He is not a finished product, but I think there is something Oakland can work with. There are a lot of young, dynamic quarterbacks in this league. I think Oakland had to make developing Pryor quickly a priority. Carson Palmer is 33, expensive, and not improving.
If Pryor makes big strides in the offseason, I don’t think it would be a terrible idea for Oakland to consider handing him the starting job. This team will be still rebuilding for the next couple of years. Might as well give the kid a chance.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:45 pm
653.Dakota Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:42 pm
I hope they interview some people before they settle on Saunders.
Mark didn’t interview anyone before he hired Reggie, and then Reggie didn’t interview anyone to my knowledge before he hired Dennis Allen.
Interviews are important people! Shows you that some people might be more competent than the first guy who walks through the door! Fawq!
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Several.
Marty Mornewhig (sp)
Winston Moss
the former NO OC
Think one or two others.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:46 pm
649.mcfadden20. Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:41 pm
some people need to get reality check , this isn’t Madden13 , yeah go ahead sign a backup rb to big time money, when our starters s8ck at most positions and we were unable to upgrade them , this isn’t freaking 1970 with no salary cap , and things aren’t as easy as it looks in madden13 franchise lmao, put down the pipe
====================================================== Reality check was when you predicted playoffs and showcased your love for Knapp and the zoneCOCKING scheme.Look at ya now dumb a$$ still acting like you know sht.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:46 pm
Watching the presser right now
December 31st, 2012 at 1:46 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:42 pm
I wish we could somehow purchase a bra, have all the blogsters sign it and mail it to Dennis.
“Heres to you tits, breast regression ever!”
______
THIS! lol
I’m out of here gentleman. I wish you all a Happy New Year and best of luck in 2013. Peace be amongst you all.
Raider out!
December 31st, 2012 at 1:46 pm
Ron69 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:42 pm
I really hope Norv Turner is hired and this is why:
1.- He uses all and i mean all the players in offense wr’s te’s rb’s fb’s
2.- His offense might no be as explosive as hue’s but he is vertical and very creative with his rb’s not to mention with Te’s
3.- Palmer-Turner combo is as good as it gets.
4.- Not Sean Payton but very unpredictable play caller
—————————
There is absolutely no chance Turner comes back here. I guy like Turner doesn’t come back to a lower position to a team he held a HC spot. Yeah it would be great because hes a good OC, but its not going to happen
December 31st, 2012 at 1:47 pm
664.alex7 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:45 pm
THE DEFINITIVE PRYOR EXPERIENCE!!
vs and completion%:
USC 44%
Wisconsin 38%
Penn St. 47%
Iowa 54%
Wisconsin 50%
Miami 44%
NFL Debut: 46% I see a pattern of suck.
—-
Didn’t he get MVP in a major bowl game vs. an SEC team?
Like the last game he started before yesterday?
December 31st, 2012 at 1:47 pm
Allen in the Presser pretty much said Knapp was too stupid to adjust to the players on the team and production took a nose dive when he was hired.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:48 pm
RR
Facts, baby.
49er D-rank:
2006 – 32nd
2007 – 20th
2008 – 23rd
2010 – 16th
Then Harbaugh and Fangio show up.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:48 pm
lol some posters had a rough year, McClain gets benched, Knapp is a complete failure, ZBS proved to suck with our players etc…etc…etc….;)
December 31st, 2012 at 1:48 pm
Pryor showed alot of naysayers in the media that he can play. they are turning on the kid for the better.
Doesnt matter what anyone on the blog says. Reggie said Pryor had a good outing according to MOnte Poole, Dennis Allen said Pryor said he should have been playing earlier in the season. Nuff said. They think they have something with him.
Pryor baby!
December 31st, 2012 at 1:48 pm
December 31st, 2012 at 1:48 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:39 pm
People still think Hue Jackson is getting a HC gig?
LOL…..will he even make it to the round of token Rooney rule guy this season?
========================================
Not likely. Teams remember how he engineered a horrible trade, tried to punk out the owner, then went crying to Mike Silver afterwards.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Seriously,they couldn’t wait until after the holidays to fire that mfkr.
Classless, right JFB?
December 31st, 2012 at 1:49 pm
652.MiamiRaider78 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:42 pm
I wish we could somehow purchase a bra, have all the blogsters sign it and mail it to Dennis.
“Heres to you tits, breast regression ever!”
Jumping on the titts wagon huh? Another playoff predicter who is just now trying to fit in.I was here son.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:49 pm
if you don’t have a Peyton Manning or Tom Brady that you have a circus act for offense and build a big defense with a strong pass rush remember the ravens their off lunches to score 12 to 14 points and they win every game there’s lots of ways to win games in the NFL DAKOTA blind people think prior has it may be your blind one game that’s it you can tell by that that he is no good you got your head up your posterior
December 31st, 2012 at 1:49 pm
And comparing Warner/Eli to Palmer/Pryor? lol. Eli and Pryor compared? Sigh.
+++++++++
Was comparing the possible relationship, not the talent levels. I may be dumb, but I’m not a complete fcking moron, Alex, give me some credit.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:49 pm
LA to the Bay
In the Rose Bowl, Pryor played well vs an OREGON defense that was not exactly Guiness stout.
Pryor always played well vs bad teams. GMs saw past that and didn’t touch him through 3 rounds.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:50 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:41 pm
Everyone here is talking about PRYOR as a finish product. He is not even close to being fully grown.
Let a coach develope him and watch out.
==============================================
There is the problem right there. Coaches don’t have time to develop players any more. That went out 10 years ago. Guys have to come into the league ready to play. Look at Luck, RGIII, Russell Wilson and Andy Dalton. Matt Ryan. These guys came in ready to play. Luke Keuchly, Alton Smith. Guys come in ready to play. The problem with Al Davis is Davis would hand his coaching staffs TONS of projects: DHB, Jamarcus, Ausberry, Richard Gordon, Veldheer, Pryor, the list goes on and on. And very few of those guys ever develop and they hold the entire team back.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Why linebackers coach Johnny Holland ?
Nothing to work with … Seems like he is the scapegoat for D.
Seriously why? Knapp etc sure but not seeing cause here. Maybe he was tight with McLame…
December 31st, 2012 at 1:50 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:48 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:39 pm
People still think Hue Jackson is getting a HC gig?
LOL…..will he even make it to the round of token Rooney rule guy this season?
========================================
Not likely. Teams remember how he engineered a horrible trade, tried to punk out the owner, then went crying to Mike Silver afterwards.
+++++++++++++++++++
Silver still whines about it too.
All because Hue fed him info and has Cal Bear connections.
Swear to f’ing Christ, if Pol Pot were still alive and had gone to Cal, Silver would defend him.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:51 pm
ravenaider Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Stevie Wonder can see that the young man Pryor HAS IT!
Sure he made a few bad reads and some misfires but overall he did a fine job.The guy is a LEADER.You could see that when he went in the middle of the scrum between Goodson and Spikes.That’s what soldier’s do!! They take charge of their post!!! I like his attitude towards the game and this team. Cmon IDIOT Coach and GM give this guy a chance next year.During the offseason put in some Pryor packages the way the Niners did Kaepernick.If Carson keeps doing his Tony Romo impersonations at critical times, put Terrelle in!
=====
Stevie Wonder can also read a defense better, and likely has a stronger, more accurate arm.
Pryor must listen to one of Stevie’s hits, “I Wish”, because that’s what he does everytime he floats one up in the air and has to wait 4 seconds to see who ends up catching it.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:51 pm
RR
Facts, baby.
49er D-rank:
2006 – 32nd
2007 – 20th
2008 – 23rd
2010 – 16th
Then Harbaugh and Fangio show up..
December 31st, 2012 at 1:51 pm
I watched a lot of Chargers games this year(damn you fantasy football!) and the Chargers flat out sucked at running the ball. Really bad play calling. ie., Raiders, Oakland, 2012.
No to Turner for me. Been there done that.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Somebody slap me. Knapp was fired?
December 31st, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:45 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:39 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Stablersbeard Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:25 pm
I’ll admit that installing a college level offense for a college level quarterback would be a great idea….
If the Raiders played NCAA football.
That’s the reason that out of HUNDREDS of NCAA quarterbacks only a very few make it to the NFL and succeed over a long period of time.
Defenses are much faster and more sophisticated in the NFL. College gimmicks do not work long term.
=============
than please explain how rgIII kappy and wilson are in the playoffs with these offenses?
They are pro ofenses that have had option added to them.
========================================
What we saw yesterday with Seattle, Washington and the Whiners is basically the pro offense. Some read option ….
you still dont know what you are looking at do you?
Also you are speaking as if you have watched them all year and you have not?
seattle ran more zone read yetserday than they have almost all year and wilson scored a td to win on that play. So di rgiII score on it yesterday.
It sint the zone read play per se, it is also the formation and play design, pistol shotgun spread.
It isnt just zone read, but also triple option in washington.
We saw it on the first play of the game with pryor the ghost reverse motion behind him and dmac up the gut!!
get a clue, they havnt stopped anything they havnt caught up to anything.
THE WAVE OF THE FUTURE OWNS YOU!!!
***********
for someone so pro-black, u sure talk about owning people a lot.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:52 pm
691.SaintKaufman Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:51 pm
I watched a lot of Chargers games this year(damn you fantasy football!) and the Chargers flat out sucked at running the ball. Really bad play calling. ie., Raiders, Oakland, 2012.
No to Turner for me. Been there done that.
———–
I agree
December 31st, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Reggie didn’t interview anyone to my knowledge before he hired Dennis Allen
***
Dakota,
yes he did. there were at least 5 other guys interviewed
DA was the only guy to get a 2nd interview!
December 31st, 2012 at 1:52 pm
685.alex7 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:49 pm
LA to the Bay
In the Rose Bowl, Pryor played well vs an OREGON defense that was not exactly Guiness stout.
Pryor always played well vs bad teams. GMs saw past that and didn’t touch him through 3 rounds.
———–
I was talkin Sugar Bowl.
Following year.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:52 pm
SnB
but the reason the RELATIONSHIP between Warner/Eli existed was BECAUSE Eli was a #1 overall pick.
Pryor doesn’t have the pedigree, mechanics, or accuracy to get the same relationship. He won’t earn an NFL starting gig anymore than Tebow.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:53 pm
In the first half Ohio State, and Pryor, dominated Arkansas like no other opponent did all season (and remember, the Hogs’ two losses came from national champion Auburn and defending national champ Alabama), opening up a 28-7 lead until four seconds before intermission. In the second half the Razorbacks, and Ryan, had their way with the Buckeyes, closing to within five points of pulling off one of the most spectacular finishes in Sugar Bowl history.
Pryor got the Buckeyes off to a roaring start, passing for 203 yards and two touchdowns, and rushing for 52 more as Ohio State took complete control of the game.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:53 pm
692.KoolKell Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Somebody slap me. Knapp was fired?
————
LOL, i’m reminded of the Movie “Airplane”. You’re going to have a line around the block
December 31st, 2012 at 1:53 pm
Allen gives Pryor a stamp of approval in the presser. Says Pryor’s athleticism allowed him to be more effective in the red zone.
Likes DMC. Thinks Knapp was a dipsh!t who could’nt coach water downhill.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:53 pm
LA To TheBay Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:45 pm
653.Dakota Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:42 pm
I hope they interview some people before they settle on Saunders.
Mark didn’t interview anyone before he hired Reggie, and then Reggie didn’t interview anyone to my knowledge before he hired Dennis Allen.
Interviews are important people! Shows you that some people might be more competent than the first guy who walks through the door! Fawq!
———-
Several.
Marty Mornewhig (sp)
Winston Moss
the former NO OC
Think one or two others.
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??
Marty Mornhinweg has been the OC for the Eagles for years. Not special teams. Reggie did interview him for HC. I think it was between Allen and Mornhinweg for the Raider HC. Of course Allen was chosen. Good possibility Mornhinweg emerges as a top candidate for Raiders OC (Reggie’s guy) but Mornhinweg may follow Andy Reid where he goes.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:53 pm
663.rudegruden Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:44 pm
What bothers me about the firing of Knapp and Hoffman is, why didn’t Reggie see this before he hired these guys. The majority of us (except Reggie’s blind followers) knew our offense and special teams did not need a major change and knew Knapp an Hoffman were a disaster waiting to happen. How did Reggie miss this. I would like to see him explain his logic.
===================================================== Because he is a fkn retard with no practicle experiance.Power hungry and just plain out of his league and over his head. Said it day 1.Sacrificeing the season was a giant mistake.I’ll never look at Madden the same again.Only reason he got the job,plus him and his brother were seperated at birth at the bottom lip.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:54 pm
Somebody slap me. Knapp was fired first day after?
December 31st, 2012 at 1:54 pm
687.MarcusAllen Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Why linebackers coach Johnny Holland ?
Nothing to work with … Seems like he is the scapegoat for D.
Seriously why? Knapp etc sure but not seeing cause here. Maybe he was tight with McLame…
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Or couldn’t coach him up?
December 31st, 2012 at 1:54 pm
Bush, didnt you spend all season trying to tell me that the offense was ‘DUMBED DOWN” FOR KAPPY WILSON AND RGiii?
NOW your saying we saw ‘basically a pro offense”?!?a/
Fact…I TOLD YOU THEY WERE PRO OFFENSES AUGMENTED WITH OPTION CONCEPTS!!!
this dude has no idea what he is talking about
next time i tell yuo write it down and study before opening your mouth and exposing the fact that you dont know
December 31st, 2012 at 1:54 pm
There is the problem right there. Coaches don’t have time to develop players any more. That went out 10 years ago. Guys have to come into the league ready to play. Look at Luck, RGIII, Russell Wilson and Andy Dalton. Matt Ryan. These guys came in ready to play. Luke Keuchly, Alton Smith. Guys come in ready to play. The problem with Al Davis is Davis would hand his coaching staffs TONS of projects: DHB, Jamarcus, Ausberry, Richard Gordon, Veldheer, Pryor, the list goes on and on. And very few of those guys ever develop and they hold the entire team back.
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Not a problem at all. Coaches always look for a guy to develope first u got to be worth “developing” Im not comparing buy plenty of guys have been developed like Brady who was a sixth and had horrible mechanics and Aaaron rodgers. That aaron rodgers was developed by Tom Clements and the Miami Dolphin Joe Philbin HC.
Norv turner said he liked what he saw in pryor and just needs to develope more. Said keep grinding to him. So ya ur statement is false. I understand u not wanting him to succeed tho. thats on u. next
December 31st, 2012 at 1:54 pm
RaidO,
(sp) = spelling?
December 31st, 2012 at 1:55 pm
RaiderDogg Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Pryor would excel in Chip Kelly’s offense
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Probably since Kelly was recruiting him and Pryor visited Eugene before signing with Ohio State.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:55 pm
Pryor always played well vs bad teams. GMs saw past that and didn’t touch him through 3 rounds.
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They also didn’t touch Brady through 6 rounds
and no Im not comparin the two Im just sayin
December 31st, 2012 at 1:55 pm
Zymurgy,
Allen disagrees with your assessment of Pryor. Look at the presser.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:55 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:50 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:41 pm
Everyone here is talking about PRYOR as a finish product. He is not even close to being fully grown.
Let a coach develope him and watch out.
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There is the problem right there. Coaches don’t have time to develop players any more. That went out 10 years ago. Guys have to come into the league ready to play. Look at Luck, RGIII, Russell Wilson and Andy Dalton. Matt Ryan. These guys came in ready to play. Luke Keuchly, Alton Smith. Guys come in ready to play. The problem with Al Davis is Davis would hand his coaching staffs TONS of projects: DHB, Jamarcus, Ausberry, Richard Gordon, Veldheer, Pryor, the list goes on and on. And very few of those guys ever develop and they hold the entire team back.
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Agreed, and people who are saying that we need to develop Pryor as a our franchise qb are the same people saying we don’t have enough talent. At some point we need players who can play now. How long do we wait. For those who think it takes years to change a team is clueless. This isn’t baseball.
That was Al’s biggest downfalls. He picked a bunch of kids who had raw talent who needed to be coached for years to become functional, but he didn’t value the coach the way he needed to so we kept getting reject coaches who couldn’t coach our raw talented players.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:55 pm
Bush, didnt you spend all season trying to tell me that the offense was ‘DUMBED DOWN” FOR KAPPY WILSON AND RGiii?
NOW your saying we saw ‘basically a pro offense”?!?a/
Fact…I TOLD YOU THEY WERE PRO OFFENSES AUGMENTED WITH OPTION CONCEPTS!!!
this dude has no idea what he is talking about
next time i tell yuo write it down and study before opening your mouth and exposing the fact that you dont know
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lol all these clowns are flip flopping. They butt buddy Knapp was fired and Pryor had a good showing all the media guys and paper even said he is worth devloping more. It makes them mad.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:55 pm
Somebody please slap me. Knapp was fired the first day after?
December 31st, 2012 at 1:55 pm
LA
Pryor had 56% in the Sugar Bowl (vs Arkansas, bad D), 5th-lowest of the year.
But he did run for 100+ yards that night and was heralded for those efforts.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:56 pm
If I remember Reggie interviewed DA, Winston Moss, Pete Carmichael and Marty Mohrninweg and offered an interview to Mike McCoy but McCoy declined because he thought he was getting the Dolphins job.
Damn shame too, I think McCoy will be a good HC. What he did shifting his offense from Kyle Orton to Tim Tebow to Peyton Manning is quite a coaching job.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:39 pm
I think it wise for the raiders to send soem feelers out to coaches and if they get a coupe of hits from the guys out there than fire allen
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Mistic1 I think it’s a done deal…they started floating feelers by midseason.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Well…..’bout time.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:57 pm
RaidersAllDay
the semis here don’t pay attention to what the media says/thinks.
They rarely study as much as some of us do.
Pryor’s outing was a continuation of inaccuracy. 45% is TERRIBLE.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:57 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:55 pm
Somebody please slap me. Knapp was fired the first day after?
Us idiot fans were right? Slap me.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:57 pm
ok im out
pryor has exposed the head coach
the media
and the blog tards as know nothing idiot loudmouths!!
THANK GOD WE ACTUALLY HAVE A QB THAT WE CAN BUILD AROUND FOR AN EXCITING FUTURE AND WINS FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE!!
TP6
im out
Glad i was able to teach some of you about what the new football paradigm is about
peace
December 31st, 2012 at 1:57 pm
leave it to raiders fans to actually WANT to dump a 4k/22 td passer for a 150 yard/72 rating runner who throws rainbow ducks, cuz they “see hope” in the 3 td’s. let’s see. did palmer produce 3 td’s this year? yes, i think he did. and he did while actually looking like a qb.
missdick and priest have always pretended they really knew football. but seeing pryor pass the ball and coming on here today talking about how great he looked proves once and for all that they don’t care one bit about actual football or the raiders. it’s ONLY about hoping like heck that they will a black qb into the lineup.
so, now they trun their attention to firing allen, knowing full well that wo’t happen, so they can petend all next year that he’s the reason why the wonder boy who throws rainbow ducks is not in the game.
but i have news for u idiots. nobody wants pryor as their qb. not a single coach in the world.
delusional, racist, mentally ill morons.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:57 pm
What we saw yesterday with Seattle, Washington and the Whiners is basically the pro offense. Some read option ….
you still dont know what you are looking at do you?
Also you are speaking as if you have watched them all year and you have not?
seattle ran more zone read yetserday than they have almost all year and wilson scored a td to win on that play. So di rgiII score on it yesterday.
It sint the zone read play per se, it is also the formation and play design, pistol shotgun spread.
It isnt just zone read, but also triple option in washington.
We saw it on the first play of the game with pryor the ghost reverse motion behind him and dmac up the gut!!
get a clue, they havnt stopped anything they havnt caught up to anything.
THE WAVE OF THE FUTURE OWNS YOU!!!
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This was a dumb post but I will give you a mulligan. Again, what I said was “yesterday”, I did not say anything about “all year”. And then you agreed with me. But you ignore the point I have been making and that is the zone read, triple option has basically been incorporated THIS YEAR. Defensive coaches do not have the time during the week to come up with a new defense to counter this during the season.
We saw that last year with Teblows. Teblows came in running not a college offense but a high school offense. I wrote that here on Jerry’s blog. DC’s are not used to defending high school offenses. But teams will eventually catch up. Same thing with the read option. This offseason coaches have seminars and meetings with other coaches all around the country. This is what they do in the offseasons. And they will devise plans to stop that offense.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:58 pm
Does anyone know how good Rich Gannon was when he was 23 yrs old??
December 31st, 2012 at 1:58 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:54 pm
Somebody slap me. Knapp was fired first day after?
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LOL… I would but sh1t splatters !!!
December 31st, 2012 at 1:58 pm
He also had some big time pass plays.
Tressell went conservative (as he was apt to do) in 2nd half and ran the ball a bit much and let Arkansas back in the game.
I’m a big Ohio St. fan, so I watched all of Pryor’s games live.
He has a ways to go but you have to watch the way they played offense to really understand.
He did improve each year at Ohio St. though, as a passer and a decision maker in general. Why I have high hopes for him and confident that Al’s investment will pay off in time.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:58 pm
alex7 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:48 pm
RR
Facts, baby.
49er D-rank:
2006 – 32nd
2007 – 20th
2008 – 23rd
2010 – 16th
Then Harbaugh and Fangio show up.
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I don’t think their defense got any better between 2010 and 2011. I also think it has regressed a bit in 2012, as people figured out how to handle it. You just need a strong running back to counter their under-sized speed players at the LB level. Adrian Peterson, Steven Jackson and Marshawn Lynch all gave them fits and lead to wins.
What did change under Harbaugh was that their offense went from 90% 3 and outs to being able to move the chains and even accidentally put up points every now and then. The offense was also designed to be very conservative around reducing turnovers.
That took a lot of pressure off the defense, reduced their time on the field, and also had them playing pass only defense in most of their 4th quarters, which plays to a defenses strength.
Same level of play from 2010 plus a better defense equals a higher defense rating. Football is a game of synergy where all three units contribute to make the others look better or worse. You can’t look at any unit in pure isolation and get a full read on it.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:58 pm
What bothers me about the firing of Knapp and Hoffman is, why didn’t Reggie see this before he hired these guys. The majority of us (except Reggie’s blind followers) knew our offense and special teams did not need a major change and knew Knapp an Hoffman were a disaster waiting to happen. How did Reggie miss this. I would like to see him explain his logic.
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Reggie hired Dennis.
Dennis hired the coordinators and assts
I don’t think Reggie will let that happen again. Reggie will have input and the final say. He will not let Dennis pick whoever he wants unless Reggie agrees it’s the right guy for the job.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:59 pm
eave it to raiders fans to actually WANT to dump a 4k/22 td passer for a 150 yard/72 rating runner who throws rainbow ducks, cuz they “see hope” in the 3 td’s. let’s see. did palmer produce 3 td’s this year? yes, i think he did. and he did while actually looking like a qb.
missdick and priest have always pretended they really knew football. but seeing pryor pass the ball and coming on here today talking about how great he looked proves once and for all that they don’t care one bit about actual football or the raiders. it’s ONLY about hoping like heck that they will a black qb into the lineup.
so, now they trun their attention to firing allen, knowing full well that wo’t happen, so they can petend all next year that he’s the reason why the wonder boy who throws rainbow ducks is not in the game.
but i have news for u idiots. nobody wants pryor as their qb. not a single coach in the world.
delusional, racist, mentally ill morons.
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who wants that? everyone wants Palmer back just not at that price. Its a valid statment being floated by guys like adam schefter and nfl insiders.
I want palmer back.. and Dennis Allen said Pryor should have at least been used in the RZ. Dont matter what we want tho
December 31st, 2012 at 1:59 pm
Did Pryor get Knapp fired? Somebody slap me.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:59 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:55 pm
Somebody please slap me. Knapp was fired the first day after?
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Slap!!!
Its a new day with a professional org
December 31st, 2012 at 1:59 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:57 pm
ok im out
pryor has exposed the head coach
the media
and the blog tards as know nothing idiot loudmouths!!
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Uh, no. Pryor exposed himself. That player is not worth developing. Unless it is as a WR. Sorry.
December 31st, 2012 at 1:59 pm
695.RaiderRockstar Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Reggie didn’t interview anyone to my knowledge before he hired Dennis Allen
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Dakota,
yes he did. there were at least 5 other guys interviewed
DA was the only guy to get a 2nd interview!
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Really? That is almost scarier! Reggie interviewed five other people and really thought Dennis Allen was the right guy for the job?
We are in serious trouble!
December 31st, 2012 at 2:00 pm
theghostronin79 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:55 pm
RaiderDogg Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Pryor would excel in Chip Kelly’s offense
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Probably since Kelly was recruiting him and Pryor visited Eugene before signing with Ohio State.
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Pryor beat him in his soph year in the Rose Bowl…
December 31st, 2012 at 2:00 pm
Here is a fun fact for you all:
7 of the top 10 QB’s in the league ranked by salary cap hit are watching the playoffs at home this season.
Bradford, Rivers, Vick, Brees, Stafford, Cutler, and Roethlisberger.
Go Figure?
December 31st, 2012 at 2:00 pm
Argueing over Pryor is pointless.He will not be starting the season at qb.It will be Palmer,but it will be an interesting preseason.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:00 pm
Paul Gutierrez@PGutierrezCSN
“I believe in continuity…but I also know at some point we’re looking for results, and this is a win-now business.” – #Raiders #DennisAllen
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Thats funny I bet Mark Davis is saying the same thing right about now
December 31st, 2012 at 2:00 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:58 pm
Does anyone know how good Rich Gannon was when he was 23 yrs old??
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We should keep pryor as a backup and not a starter. He is NOT a starter or even close to one at this point. I believe most people agree to that, but a lot of people just don’t want to see another season(s) wasted by testing the water with a guy who obviously still needs a lot of more work.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:00 pm
If I remember Reggie interviewed DA, Winston Moss, Pete Carmichael and Marty Mohrninweg and offered an interview to Mike McCoy but McCoy declined because he thought he was getting the Dolphins job.
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PA,
one more guy, the first guy. Todd Bowles
December 31st, 2012 at 2:01 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:58 pm
Does anyone know how good Rich Gannon was when he was 23 yrs old??
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Dr Robert and ALex are just on here trolling. TP could of had the best QB game in NFL history. They would still be on here hating.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:01 pm
8RaiderReign8 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:59 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:55 pm
Somebody please slap me. Knapp was fired the first day after?
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Slap!!!
Its a new day with a professional org
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Thank you, cause I’m going out of my mind. They fired that mfkr?
December 31st, 2012 at 2:02 pm
The Raiders are still in financial duress, and I’m not speaking of salary-cap glut, in fact Marky said that was not an issue. What the real issue is the Raiders overall finance wealth is very poor considering the stadium situation. The Raiders were able to sell out most of the games through help from the league and local car dealers, etc.
Getting top notch assistants and coordinators will cost more than Junior makes, so look for either bargain basement retread deals (aka Krappy) or some kind of up and coming guru that would come under budget.
The ZarMac must cut the high-salaried lead weights. I know the Raiders are strapped and stuck with Carcux, but if they could find an idiot who would trade for him, don’t hesitate. I doubt there would be any takers, but whatever he can get in return, get it done. Besides, Carcux would probably enjoy going to a team in desperate need of an “elite” qb ready for a championship run.
It’s really an insult to Pryor to judge him over one start. He was humble and forthright to come out after the game and talk about his weakness and short-comings, how his “wrist froze” out of the tension of being out there for the first time in his life. He didn’t mention playing under a playbook of the OC who gets fired the next day, and playing for a coach who only a week before had said he wasn’t ready. Sure Pryor was throwing floaters, and so was Rivers.
However, Carcux might throw darts, and have the golden arm, but look at his completion percentage beyond 20 yards. Besides, with Pryor the Raiders have more than a one-dimensional than Carcux, at a great $10 million savings.
With Carcux, the bottom line is winning, so it has been repeated by Junior 100 times today. Carcux in his last 3 seasons his team are something like 12-30. I know it’s not justice to pin wins and losses on qbs, but that’s reality. Give floaters that win games and I’ll give darts that give you losses.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:03 pm
RaidO Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:01 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:58 pm
Does anyone know how good Rich Gannon was when he was 23 yrs old??
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Dr Robert and ALex are just on here trolling. TP could of had the best QB game in NFL history. They would still be on here hating.
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But pryor didn’t. He looked like well…..a backup qb.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:03 pm
Anybody who thinks Pryor is not a pro QB is going counter to all the expert analysis around the league.
I love these blog geniuses
December 31st, 2012 at 2:03 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:59 pm
Did Pryor get Knapp fired? Somebody slap me.
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You aint gotta tell me twice!!
December 31st, 2012 at 2:03 pm
Ahh DA just said continuity. I’ve grown to hate that word over the course of this year.
“I believe in continuity, but… We’ve got to put in a new offense and special teams” – Dennis Allen
December 31st, 2012 at 2:03 pm
We should keep pryor as a backup and not a starter. He is NOT a starter or even close to one at this point. I believe most people agree to that, but a lot of people just don’t want to see another season(s) wasted by testing the water with a guy who obviously still needs a lot of more work.
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Hate to break it to ya.. Raiders will finish no better then 6-10 no matter who is at qb next year. Still at least 2 years away to even competing
December 31st, 2012 at 2:03 pm
Really? That is almost scarier! Reggie interviewed five other people and really thought Dennis Allen was the right guy for the job?
We are in serious trouble!
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Dakota,
maybe Dennis Allen is a smooth talker, like Hue Jackson?
Mark Davis sat next to him on the plane ride home after a blowout loss to tell him the Raiders “aren’t good enough” and walked away impressed with Allen’s passion, intensity and knowledge of the game, lol
December 31st, 2012 at 2:04 pm
alex7 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:57 pm
RaidersAllDay
the semis here don’t pay attention to what the media says/thinks.
They rarely study as much as some of us do.
Pryor’s outing was a continuation of inaccuracy. 45% is TERRIBLE.
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And that is 45% counting Streator and DHB making some pretty good plays, and an opposing defense that had already checked out and was on their way to Cabo. Put Pryor against a hungry defense that prepped for him and we all would be HAPPY with him completing 45% of his passes. Of course the team would not win with that kind of performance.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Certain posters don’t like Pryor for one reason, he was Als last draft choice, so MR/Alex will never like him regardless how much he improves, MR/Alex has ben hating on Pryor since the day we drafted him and he will never change his stance PERIOD
December 31st, 2012 at 2:04 pm
But pryor didn’t. He looked like well…..a backup qb.
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just like rich was. Only Pryor had not started in 2 1/2 years and only have half reps in a week of practice.
Still scored 3 tds including leading the offense on its first scoring drive in 3 weeks. Not bad for a “backup” qb
December 31st, 2012 at 2:04 pm
r8eray Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:03 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:59 pm
Did Pryor get Knapp fired? Somebody slap me.
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You aint gotta tell me twice!!
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It’s like the movie Airplane. “Dr. You’re needed up front, i got this”
December 31st, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Pryor would excel in Chip Kelly’s offense
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Probably since Kelly was recruiting him and Pryor visited Eugene before signing with Ohio State.
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Pryor beat him in his soph year in the Rose Bowl…
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I Know…..It was a tough one to swallow, considering Pryor ALMOST signed with Oregon. I was pissed when I read he committed to Ohio State, then bent us over in the Rose Bowl. I knew he was special then, cause he played a HELL of a game, and we couldn’t stop him. I was happy as hell the Raiders drafted him though.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:05 pm
725.LA to TheBay Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:58 pm
He also had some big time pass plays.
Tressell went conservative (as he was apt to do) in 2nd half and ran the ball a bit much and let Arkansas back in the game.
I’m a big Ohio St. fan, so I watched all of Pryor’s games live.
He has a ways to go but you have to watch the way they played offense to really understand.
He did improve each year at Ohio St. though, as a passer and a decision maker in general. Why I have high hopes for him and confident that Al’s investment will pay off in time.
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Hey, he improves each year! Most rookie QBs come in and ball out their first year….but hey lets wait for this guy because he improves each year! maybe in 6 or 7 years he will look like a starter!
December 31st, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Dennis Allen would have kept Knapp. he also would have started Leinart in WK17
it’s obvious Reggie isn’t just sitting on his hands waiting for something to change on it’s own anymore
December 31st, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Ever been in a Turkish prison?
December 31st, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Pryor definitely got Knapp fired, actually Knapp was DA’s scapegoat DA is very good at making others responsible for his blunders. Knapp is incompetent DA is duplicitous moron.
Reggie if you have a brain in the large cranium you better protect yourself from this moron you hired. Get a great OC and some great coaches DO NOT allow DA to hire a single coach keep him away from the interview process. Get some great coaches in here and save your own job until you can get rid of him.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:06 pm
I like that they decided to keep Hue’s “Next man up” philosiphy. I miss the term “Iron Sharpening Iron” though
December 31st, 2012 at 2:06 pm
And thats 45% with more than a handful of drops that were right on the money, not sure if it was the rain or what but Reece couldn’t catch nothin
December 31st, 2012 at 2:06 pm
755. Ha!
December 31st, 2012 at 2:06 pm
December 31st, 2012 at 1:59 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:55 pm
Somebody please slap me. Knapp was fired the first day after?
================================================= If I did I would use my fist and knock your damn head right off your fkn shoulders.Carefull what you ask for.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:06 pm
Knapp OUT,
DA got his wings clipped and is toting the company Line…
TP showed he’s got talent worth developing.
A great 1st day of the 2013 season…
December 31st, 2012 at 2:06 pm
And that is 45% counting Streator and DHB making some pretty good plays, and an opposing defense that had already checked out and was on their way to Cabo. Put Pryor against a hungry defense that prepped for him and we all would be HAPPY with him completing 45% of his passes. Of course the team would not win with that kind of performance.
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U know for a face they checked out? Did takeo spikes and his roid rage look like he checked “out”?
Did Eric weddle look like he “checked” out when he tore Streater a new one in the 4th quarter??
Did melvin ingram look like he “checked” out when he tore Coye Francies a new one on ST during the 4th quarter??
Did Ingram look like he “checked” out when he was chasing Pryor down like a Madman??? Nope .. stop u sound fooling dude. Go back to ur cheeto lunch
December 31st, 2012 at 2:06 pm
We saw that last year with Teblows. Teblows came in running not a college offense but a high school offense. I wrote that here on Jerry’s blog. DC’s are not used to defending high school offenses. But teams will eventually catch up. Same thing with the read option. This offseason coaches have seminars and meetings with other coaches all around the country. This is what they do in the offseasons. And they will devise plans to stop that offense.
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Well put Seymour. Two years from now we’ll be talking about the read option “era” in the same breath as the Wild Cat. A short lived wrinkle that was fun but too easy for the league to figure out. Like the Wild Cat, it’s just too simple to shut down with a little bit of attention spent adjusting the defenses. Seattle already proved this and now that there is tape on that, everyone will watch and copy.
Once a majority of teams that a read option team faces have adjusted, the franchise QBs running are going to have mileage put on their bodies at three times the rate. The defensive fix will involve maximizing hits on the QB, whether he keeps the ball or not. As most of these guys don’t have Newton size, that will not bode well for their longetivity.
The only reason we’re seeing the influx of run oriented QBs now is because the college game is struggling to produce pure pocket passers. The true franchise QBs of the Rodgers, Manning, Brees ranks are becoming rarer and rarer forcing the NFL teams to gamble on gimmicks. When teams get one, they need to hold to them for dear life.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:07 pm
Did you like watching Gladiator films?
December 31st, 2012 at 2:07 pm
Now we know why Wiz quit! He wanted no part of this mess! This makes me think he knows what he’s doing. Wouldn’t mind if he came back!
I vote for Saunders as OC!
Al Davis Forever!!!
Just Win Baby!!!
December 31st, 2012 at 2:07 pm
If anyone checked out it looked like reece did.. and DMOORE has been checked out since week 8
December 31st, 2012 at 2:08 pm
Did Mark fire that mfkr with extreme prejudice?
December 31st, 2012 at 2:08 pm
Dakota, he looked better than the starter did. If you consider scoring in the redzone and 3rd down efficiency which is the most important components to a successful drive.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:08 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:04 pm
But pryor didn’t. He looked like well…..a backup qb.
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just like rich was. Only Pryor had not started in 2 1/2 years and only have half reps in a week of practice.
Still scored 3 tds including leading the offense on its first scoring drive in 3 weeks. Not bad for a “backup” qb
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Did you watch the game or just hanging your hat on 3 TD’s. He did not look like a guy who can start in this league. He’s 2 years at best (with great coaching, total mechanic changes etc..) at becoming a mediocre qb. I like the guy, but come on…did you really think, “thats the guy for our future?”. Guys like RG3, Luck, Dalton, Wilson etc..put him to shame. Thats what we compare him to since they are functioning at a young age with no experience. Pryor is not at that level.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:08 pm
Successful offense…rather
December 31st, 2012 at 2:08 pm
since we’re in the process of purging the Texan’s rejects, can we get rid of Leinart & Briesel too please !?!?
December 31st, 2012 at 2:08 pm
Scrambling Qb’s have always been here.. Rothlesberger, Aaron rodgers, steve young, nothing new. Gives Defenses fits
December 31st, 2012 at 2:09 pm
lmao……..,ahahahahaha!
where you at zbs lovers, come out come out all you knapsack lovers….
DA will be gone after 4 games next year.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:09 pm
Zymurge, you’re an idiot and your comments prove it.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:09 pm
WHERE ARE THE CLOTHING CONSPIRACY PEOPLE ?NO LOGO ON DA’S SWEATER AT THE PRESSER..
December 31st, 2012 at 2:09 pm
755.neilb Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Ever been in a Turkish prison?
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What’s your vector Victor?
December 31st, 2012 at 2:10 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:07 pm
If anyone checked out it looked like reece did.. and DMOORE has been checked out since week 8
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Yup, YUP
December 31st, 2012 at 2:10 pm
Did you watch the game or just hanging your hat on 3 TD’s. He did not look like a guy who can start in this league. He’s 2 years at best (with great coaching, total mechanic changes etc..) at becoming a mediocre qb. I like the guy, but come on…did you really think, “thats the guy for our future?”. Guys like RG3, Luck, Dalton, Wilson etc..put him to shame. Thats what we compare him to since they are functioning at a young age with no experience. Pryor is not at that level.
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look everyone Rude Gruden says he is 2 yrs at best from being a mediocre qb. Good thing Pryor doesnt have ur work ethic. Those qbs have been playing and never took a break or been suspended. Those qbs get the first team reps since OTA’s. Next
December 31st, 2012 at 2:10 pm
I really have a problem with DA because of his credibility. His flip-flopped on Pryor was more like a politician and I don’t trust a politician.
If he was my platoon leader whom I don’t trust, would I follow him into combat? Or would he become a casualty of a unfriendly friendly fire?
To keep a coach for on for sake of continuity is senseless. Example: NASCAR
Running a Geo-Metro powered engine when all others are using Ford or Chevy just for continuity is just great. By the time you finish your 10th lap, the race is over. But the driver and the pit crew gets accustomed to it. Then 2 years later switch engine and start over. By then the driver is afraid of going over 60 mph. Get the drift.
DA is a drill sargent not a leader. But it’s only my opinion.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:10 pm
768.Priesttj12 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:08 pm
Dakota, he looked better than the starter did. If you consider scoring in the redzone and 3rd down efficiency which is the most important components to a successful drive.
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Garbage time TDs.
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
December 31st, 2012 at 2:11 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:08 pm
Scrambling Qb’s have always been here.. Rothlesberger, Aaron rodgers, steve young, nothing new. Gives Defenses fits
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You mean scrambling QBs that can throw …
December 31st, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Al Saunders had to step in to help Pryor for his start.
He told Knapp, “Don’t worry, i speak Jive”
December 31st, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Seemsw like we rolled out carson early in a game or two to get the defenses thinking and the went back to straight drop back passing…
With this O Line in flux, CP is lucky he lasted 16 weeks before getting hurt.
TP HAS to be the answer going forward, if nothing else his elusiveness will keep the ball moving and the D off the field so damn much…
December 31st, 2012 at 2:11 pm
mark pimp slapped reggie and DA as they were hugging….
December 31st, 2012 at 2:12 pm
I am serious,and dont call be shirley.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:12 pm
What would Pryor look like with 5 starts, 10 starts or an entire season to play what would he look like?
I’m sure haters would say he can’t do it, but I think it’s obvious HE CAN be every bit as good as Newton, Wilson and most young starters. RG3 is special there aren’t many in history that compares to that kid.
But everyone else Pryor with the right tutoring mentoring developing by midseason 2013 could be and outstanding prospect.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:12 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:48 pm
Pryor showed alot of naysayers in the media that he can play. they are turning on the kid for the better.
Doesnt matter what anyone on the blog says. Reggie said Pryor had a good outing according to MOnte Poole, Dennis Allen said Pryor said he should have been playing earlier in the season. Nuff said. They think they have something with him.
Pryor baby!
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You’re confused. Let me help.
That’s NOT what was said.
What WAS said was:
Dennis Allen: “He did some good things. Obviously, there’s still some work to be done.”
Poole on Pryor: “Plenty of passes missed their target, and a few simply were dropped. Some wobbled. Some sailed. Only ONE deserves to be in any instructional video. PRYOR IS NOT YET READY TO START IN THE NFL, much less win. He is not a truly accurate passer in the NFL, and may never be. He faces a steep learning curve.”..adding “now the Raiders can more clearly visualize the possibilities that come with Pryor. AS IT IS, THEY SHOULD HAVE EVERY REASON TO BELIEVE HE IS CAPABLE OF WORKING HIMSELF INTO A NUMBER 2 ROLE NEXT SEASON.”
He didn’t say he should start, or even be #2. He stated he is CAPABLE OF WORKING HIMSELF INTO THE #2 POSITION.
Means he’s a ways away from just being the backup, much less the starter.
Some of you truly are dumbasses.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:12 pm
flip-flopping
December 31st, 2012 at 2:12 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:10 pm
Did you watch the game or just hanging your hat on 3 TD’s. He did not look like a guy who can start in this league. He’s 2 years at best (with great coaching, total mechanic changes etc..) at becoming a mediocre qb. I like the guy, but come on…did you really think, “thats the guy for our future?”. Guys like RG3, Luck, Dalton, Wilson etc..put him to shame. Thats what we compare him to since they are functioning at a young age with no experience. Pryor is not at that level.
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look everyone Rude Gruden says he is 2 yrs at best from being a mediocre qb. Good thing Pryor doesnt have ur work ethic. Those qbs have been playing and never took a break or been suspended. Those qbs get the first team reps since OTA’s. Next
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You’re right all he needs are OTA’s and first team reps. Wow, just wow, you are in denial.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:13 pm
mark bring in jacobs for goal line situations…
December 31st, 2012 at 2:13 pm
Now that they fired some coaches, RM needs to get off his lard azz and DA needs to put that freakin Red Sharpie to work and get this freakin train back on the track! Find coaches who recognize talent and coordinate based on that talent. Find players who are playmakers and commit to earining paychecks instead of collecting them! This organization needs some fire lit under it and it starts with management and trickles down to staff, coaches and players. DO NOT ACCEPT NOTHING LESS THAN PRODUCTION!
December 31st, 2012 at 2:13 pm
STOP IT WITH THE AIRPLANE STUFF!!
December 31st, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Doesnt matter what anyone on the blog says. Reggie said Pryor had a good outing according to MOnte Poole, Dennis Allen said Pryor said he should have been playing earlier in the season. Nuff said. They think they have something with him.
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Vic Tafur@VicTafur
Allen acknowledged that Raiders should have used Terrelle Pryor in red zone earlier this season
what flip flopping Dennis Allen said today. meaning he shoudl have been playing at the very least in RZ. U mad?
December 31st, 2012 at 2:14 pm
DA seems to be the one who “Speaks JIVE”…
“Maybe, Ahh, well, Ahh, Reggie can understand , him, ummm, well, umm…”
December 31st, 2012 at 2:14 pm
792.neilb Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:13 pm
STOP IT WITH THE AIRPLANE STUFF!!
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Rodger, Roger
December 31st, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Neilb Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:13 pm
STOP IT WITH THE AIRPLANE STUFF!!
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Shirley you can’t be serious?
December 31st, 2012 at 2:14 pm
eldiabs Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:22 am
we are in a perfect storm with RM and DA, they’re hitched together and they will both be fired together next year but it there is already enough evidence that RM and DA are not long for this league
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IQ check over on aisle five please.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:14 pm
You’re right all he needs are OTA’s and first team reps. Wow, just wow, you are in denial.
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So that doesnt help then? REPS dont help a qb? we should just cut pryor just Rude Gruden says its 2 yrs away. Just play Leinart and play it safe
December 31st, 2012 at 2:15 pm
790.Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:13 pm
mark bring in jacobs for goal line situations…
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Bring back power blocking for goal line situations and we will be fine. Not part-time power blocking, full-time, blow the guy in front of you away power blocking!
schyyyyyyt I hate knapp!
December 31st, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Possible OC candidates:
Mark Trestman
Norv Turner
Pat Shurmer
Sean Ryan- NY Giants QB coach
Chan Gailey
December 31st, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Zymurge, just yesterday, you told us that Pryor would never be able to play QB, because of his genetics.
Suk my dark genetically Engineered engineered dk
December 31st, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Hey, he improves each year! Most rookie QBs come in and ball out their first year….but hey lets wait for this guy because he improves each year! maybe in 6 or 7 years he will look like a starter!
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Most rookie QBs DO NOT ball out their first year. Cam, RG3, Luck, and Wilson have all hit the ground running but most guys take a couple years. This has traditionally been the case. Some guys are pro ready from day 1, most aren’t.
By the way, TP has a similar skill set to each of those guys, with Luck obviously being a more polished passer who happens to have feet (vs. TP who has great feet and also happens to be able to throw).
I think the fact that thse exciting young players are also dual threat guys are a big reason WHY they have such early success.
TP was/is not NFL ready like them but he did red shirt last year. He really could have used a senior season at Ohio St. But he sold some game balls and cleats or whatever for cash.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:15 pm
The Chicago Tribune reports Jon Gruden is now “leaning hard” toward staying at ESPN, and “turning down coaching feelers.”
Consider it the latest episode of As the Gruden Turns. Gruden is subject to more rumors and innuendo than Lindsay Lohan, but has never truly come close to leaving ESPN since he was hired in 2009. This could just be a leverage ploy, but if Gruden has turned down coaching overtures three years running, what’s a fourth? At this point, we wouldn’t consider him likely to abandon Mike Tirico.
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Guess when he found out Allen was keeping his job he decided to wait… (????)
Maybe he really wanted the Oakland job after all.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:12 pm
What would Pryor look like with 5 starts, 10 starts or an entire season to play what would he look like?
I’m sure haters would say he can’t do it, but I think it’s obvious HE CAN be every bit as good as Newton, Wilson and most young starters. RG3 is special there aren’t many in history that compares to that kid.
But everyone else Pryor with the right tutoring mentoring developing by midseason 2013 could be and outstanding prospect.
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See? Even priest admits he’s not ready, and with a LOT OF WORK MIGHT BE AN OUTSTANDING PROSPECT…Not to start the season, but according to preist that MAYBE in the middle of next year?
LOTS OF WORK so a qb MIGHT be ready in the middle of next season?
Reality check here, which is good, lol.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:16 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Doesnt matter what anyone on the blog says. Reggie said Pryor had a good outing according to MOnte Poole, Dennis Allen said Pryor said he should have been playing earlier in the season. Nuff said. They think they have something with him.
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Vic Tafur@VicTafur
Allen acknowledged that Raiders should have used Terrelle Pryor in red zone earlier this season
what flip flopping Dennis Allen said today. meaning he shoudl have been playing at the very least in RZ. U mad?
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Nope, using him in the RZ would make sense and they should have been doing that all season.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Oakland allowed 443 points and 27.7 points per game, the most for the team since its second season in 1961.
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Tarver! Tarver! Tarver!
December 31st, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Damn…. can’t of any more quotes.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Dakota Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:10 pm
768.Priesttj12 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:08 pm
Dakota, he looked better than the starter did. If you consider scoring in the redzone and 3rd down efficiency which is the most important components to a successful drive.
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Garbage time TDs.
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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For a 1st start I’ll take all the TD’s he can get.
Now we have to develope him and that is precisely why we are going in another direction. You don’t think they fired those coaches for Palmer…..do you??
They know what the future of this league is going to be and Palmer is the anithesis of that. Time to move forward not backward.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:16 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Al Saunders had to step in to help Pryor for his start.
He told Knapp, “Don’t worry, i speak Jive”
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Freakin funny!
December 31st, 2012 at 2:16 pm
You mean scrambling QBs that can throw …
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Go watch Steve Young with Tampa bay. I bet u didnt know he used to play for Tampa right? Why did they trade him??? cuz they said he couldnt throw… took a coach like Bill walsh to see something.
Not saying pryor is young.. but a young young?? Go ahead and cut pryor .. he might be better off with legit coaching
December 31st, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Not a Ba,a bomb!
December 31st, 2012 at 2:17 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Zymurge, just yesterday, you told us that Pryor would never be able to play QB, because of his genetics.
Suk my dark genetically Engineered DK
December 31st, 2012 at 2:17 pm
793.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Doesnt matter what anyone on the blog says. Reggie said Pryor had a good outing according to MOnte Poole, Dennis Allen said Pryor said he should have been playing earlier in the season. Nuff said. They think they have something with him.
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Vic Tafur@VicTafur
Allen acknowledged that Raiders should have used Terrelle Pryor in red zone earlier this season
what flip flopping Dennis Allen said today. meaning he shoudl have been playing at the very least in RZ. U mad?
^^^^^^^^
DA said that? What a crazy little flip flopper.
Saying whatever he can to save his job…..barely!
December 31st, 2012 at 2:17 pm
If Gruden does come back into coaching,it’ll be with Philly.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:17 pm
Garbage time TDs.
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something Leinart couldnt even manage
December 31st, 2012 at 2:18 pm
Zymurge, just yesterday, you told us that Pryor would never be able to play QB, because of his genetics.
Suk my dark genetically Engineered DK
December 31st, 2012 at 2:19 pm
The Chicago Tribune reports Jon Gruden is now “leaning hard” toward staying at ESPN, and “turning down coaching feelers.”
Consider it the latest episode of As the Gruden Turns. Gruden is subject to more rumors and innuendo than Lindsay Lohan, but has never truly come close to leaving ESPN since he was hired in 2009. This could just be a leverage ploy, but if Gruden has turned down coaching overtures three years running, what’s a fourth? At this point, we wouldn’t consider him likely to abandon Mike Tirico.
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Guess when he found out Allen was keeping his job he decided to wait… (????)
Maybe he really wanted the Oakland job after all.
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Mark told him to wait another season.. see how DA plays out.. most like gone by next year.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:19 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:17 pm
793.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Doesnt matter what anyone on the blog says. Reggie said Pryor had a good outing according to MOnte Poole, Dennis Allen said Pryor said he should have been playing earlier in the season. Nuff said. They think they have something with him.
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Vic Tafur@VicTafur
Allen acknowledged that Raiders should have used Terrelle Pryor in red zone earlier this season
what flip flopping Dennis Allen said today. meaning he shoudl have been playing at the very least in RZ. U mad?
^^^^^^^^
DA said that? What a crazy little flip flopper.
Saying whatever he can to save his job…..barely!
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Agreed, DA is obviously saying all the right things to keep his job. All year he was 100% behind Knapp.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Zymurge, just yesterday, you told us that Pryor would never be able to play QB, because of his genetics.
Suk my dark genetically Engineered Dck
December 31st, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Tarver struggled midseason but IMHO he was the ONLY coach who was able to rally his troops. Now I’d like to see him with more talent and the ability to coach it up. DA is not a bad DC but I think he struggles with players personalities. He’s just not a leader..
December 31st, 2012 at 2:19 pm
when is the last time an estabished coach replaced a fired raiders coach? established coaches dont come to oakland. wish all you want its not happenjng
December 31st, 2012 at 2:19 pm
815.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:17 pm
Garbage time TDs.
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something Leinart couldnt even manage
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Froze up in the clutch. Mach Grande style.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:20 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:15 pm
By the way, TP has a similar skill set to each of those guys, with Luck obviously being a more polished passer who happens to have feet (vs. TP who has great feet and also happens to be able to throw).
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Bummer.
You missed yesterdays game?
After you watch it, I think you’ll want to retract the last part about TP being able to throw.
Oh. Did you just mean throwing the ball? No accuracy involved? In that case, yeah, that’s our guy.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:20 pm
Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:20 pm
gruden does want the oakland job! he is willing to wait Denise’s t!tts out…4 games into the season….
still want to hear from the knappsack sniffers….where did you all go? lmao
December 31st, 2012 at 2:21 pm
Back-N-Black Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:15 pm
The Chicago Tribune reports Jon Gruden is now “leaning hard” toward staying at ESPN, and “turning down coaching feelers.”
Consider it the latest episode of As the Gruden Turns. Gruden is subject to more rumors and innuendo than Lindsay Lohan, but has never truly come close to leaving ESPN since he was hired in 2009. This could just be a leverage ploy, but if Gruden has turned down coaching overtures three years running, what’s a fourth? At this point, we wouldn’t consider him likely to abandon Mike Tirico.
……..
Guess when he found out Allen was keeping his job he decided to wait… (????)
Maybe he really wanted the Oakland job after all.
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LOL, CBS Sports says:
Ex-Raiders, Bucs coach Gruden to interview for open NFL jobs
Despite public protestations he’s happy in his current position as a television analyst, Jon Gruden will interview with NFL teams for their head coaching position, according to people with knowledge of the situation.
Over the past few weeks, teams have quietly contacted Gruden and/or his representatives to gauge Gruden’s interest. In response, Gruden and/or his representatives informed teams Gruden would speak to them once the regular season ended.
Well, the regular season has ended, and Gruden will begin talking to those teams maybe as early as Monday. Gruden is currently an analyst for ESPN and has said publicly he will stay at the network.
However, privately, the Gruden camp has acted differently, and let it be known the former coach is interested in returning to the NFL. This doesn’t mean he will return. This means he’s interested in doing so if the right job opens up.
Two teams to pay close attention to regarding Gruden are Philadelphia and San Diego (although the Chargers might focus on a younger coach).
December 31st, 2012 at 2:21 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Zymurge, just yesterday, you told us that Pryor would never be able to play QB, because of his genetics.
Suk my dark genetically Engineered Dck
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Forgot to add.
It’s cold outside.
Might be some shrinkage.
LOTS of shrinkage.
Sorry
December 31st, 2012 at 2:21 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Pryor definitely got Knapp fired, actually Knapp was DA’s scapegoat DA is very good at making others responsible for his blunders. Knapp is incompetent DA is duplicitous moron.
Reggie if you have a brain in the large cranium you better protect yourself from this moron you hired. Get a great OC and some great coaches DO NOT allow DA to hire a single coach keep him away from the interview process. Get some great coaches in here and save your own job until you can get rid of him.
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Dear Fr. Pride & Poise,
Thanks for your thoughtful advice (where’ve you been all season–lol). Please submit a 10 point strategic plan for me ASAP and deliver to my personal courier. No public comments please. If this is as brilliant as I think it will be then perhaps I can save the organization, and myself! Remember always: WWAD?
Yours conspiratorially,
RMK
December 31st, 2012 at 2:21 pm
DA threw Knapp under the bus the train the boats the wildlife and everything else. It’s what he does…..period
December 31st, 2012 at 2:21 pm
824.oakfshow Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:20 pm
Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue.
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Picked the wrong season!
December 31st, 2012 at 2:22 pm
822.LA to TheBay Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:19 pm
815.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:17 pm
Garbage time TDs.
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something Leinart couldnt even manage
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Froze up in the clutch. Mach Grande style.
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Watching Pryor throw off his back foot, lofting ducks in the air at least leaves something to be desired as opposed to Matt Leinart with good form, drop back and properly step into his throw only to have it flutter into the second row is just baffeling
December 31st, 2012 at 2:22 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:20 pm
gruden does want the oakland job! he is willing to wait Denise’s t!tts out…4 games into the season….
still want to hear from the knappsack sniffers….where did you all go? lmao
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No, they’re all gone. They will be here tomorrow under different names. lol
December 31st, 2012 at 2:22 pm
823.KoolKell Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:20 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:15 pm
By the way, TP has a similar skill set to each of those guys, with Luck obviously being a more polished passer who happens to have feet (vs. TP who has great feet and also happens to be able to throw).
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Bummer.
You missed yesterdays game?
After you watch it, I think you’ll want to retract the last part about TP being able to throw.
Oh. Did you just mean throwing the ball? No accuracy involved? In that case, yeah, that’s our guy.
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I watch all the games. Without exception. Every week. For many years.
He dropped a dime to Streater, gave DHB fighting chance at a jump ball and had at least 4 catchable balls dropped in the rain.
Pryor played well. Anything else is agenda.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:22 pm
oakfshow Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:20 pm
Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue.
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So far we can’t tell.
The lingering effects show you to be as loopy as always.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:22 pm
tarver lovers….pay attention….early season to mid season all zone! back end if the year…80-90% man…improvement was in his face all along….
December 31st, 2012 at 2:24 pm
Watching Pryor throw off his back foot, lofting ducks in the air at least leaves something to be desired as opposed to Matt Leinart with good form, drop back and properly step into his throw only to have it flutter into the second row is just baffeling
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Lienart’s form is not so good.
Watch his dropbacks from Carolina game. He’s way too deep in the pocket. At one point he took what had to have been a 10 step drop.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:24 pm
I watch all the games. Without exception. Every week. For many years.
He dropped a dime to Streater, gave DHB fighting chance at a jump ball and had at least 4 catchable balls dropped in the rain.
Pryor played well. Anything else is agenda.
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Yep speak on it. and trolls
December 31st, 2012 at 2:24 pm
But I get what you mean, Judge.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:24 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:22 pm
823.KoolKell Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:20 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:15 pm
By the way, TP has a similar skill set to each of those guys, with Luck obviously being a more polished passer who happens to have feet (vs. TP who has great feet and also happens to be able to throw).
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Bummer.
You missed yesterdays game?
After you watch it, I think you’ll want to retract the last part about TP being able to throw.
Oh. Did you just mean throwing the ball? No accuracy involved? In that case, yeah, that’s our guy.
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I watch all the games. Without exception. Every week. For many years.
He dropped a dime to Streater, gave DHB fighting chance at a jump ball and had at least 4 catchable balls dropped in the rain.
Pryor played well. Anything else is agenda.
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Interesting.
Across the wires it says Pryor is a project. He’s way behind the 8ball, trying to catch up. That MAYBE he just might develop into a backup qb.
Guess with tainted glasses you can pick and choose what you see?
December 31st, 2012 at 2:25 pm
Chris in NY Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:40 pm
Also, Mike Mitchell needs to be a full-time starter in 2013. My man looked great out there these last several weeks.
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Chris not to argue but I did not think he looked so great getting burned for that TD.
Just my opinion. I like his heart and fire but he needs to improve.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:25 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:24 pm
But I get what you mean, Judge.
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That’s what I like about you.
You think slowly.
but sooner or later it comes to you..usually later.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:25 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:22 pm
oakfshow Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:20 pm
Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue.
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So far we can’t tell.
The lingering effects show you to be as loopy as always.
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Dude, are you that lonely, or just that you love me so much?
December 31st, 2012 at 2:26 pm
Why would Gruden go back to ugly azz cold Philly?
If anything he will go to the nice weather in SD or come back home to Raiders.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:26 pm
even romo is calling for tarver….
December 31st, 2012 at 2:27 pm
VanHeathen30 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:11 pm
TP HAS to be the answer going forward, if nothing else his elusiveness will keep the ball moving and the D off the field so damn much…
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But he can’t throw. It is exactly what I have been saying all year. He wasn’t very accurate, he showed no arm strength, everything was a rainbow balloon. You are not going to make a living in the NFL with the kind of skill set we saw yesterday from Pryor. Sorry.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:27 pm
It would be nice to have the replacement coaches in as soon as possible.We always seem to leave it till the last minute and get stuck with the chaff that no one wants.
Interesting to see how quickly Reggie goes to work.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Well, at the very least from all the Pryor critics, remember he was once slated by Corky and fellow parrots, to never start a game as a qb maybe a tight end.
Now they’re talking about a possible number two. All in a one-week span, after one meaningless game, with an OC who gets fired 20 hours later, that’s something, right? Now imagine a full slate of OTAs and pre-season, under the tutelage of a coach who has a clue, and is willing to lay his career on the success of this young man, brilliant. Maybe then.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:27 pm
I agree, JRJ
Gibson = Wilson = Branch = Mitchell
Raiders can’t buy a SS. can’t develop one either!!
December 31st, 2012 at 2:28 pm
That piece of schit Corkran was on Knapp’s liver all season.
Is he next?
December 31st, 2012 at 2:28 pm
Pryor has PLENTY of arm strength. I think his release point is too high, which is why he’s rainbowing it too often. He can zing it.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:28 pm
I have bad news for you.
DA won’t reply. So please stop asking him questions.
It’s a blog, for crying out loud.
Yelling at your screen is not the answer
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He sure won’t reply but ya never know he may read this.And if not so what.I am merely venting.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:28 pm
Thought Philly was Grudens home town.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:28 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:21 pm
DA threw Knapp under the bus the train the boats the wildlife and everything else. It’s what he does…..period
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You hypocrite bich.
You’ve been whining and whining and whing that DA should fire Knapp. That Reg should fire DA. That Mark should fire Reg.
So when DA does what he should do, you post that stupid schittt?
fuk off, you hypocrite lying pos.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:29 pm
841.KoolKell Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:25 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:24 pm
But I get what you mean, Judge.
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That’s what I like about you.
You think slowly.
but sooner or later it comes to you..usually later.
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Just something I forgot to include in the prior post. It happens, Rich.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Pryor cant throw? I must have missed those throws to Streater.. or the ones Reece/ Te dropped.
Good thing nobody judges a qb off of 1 game. Only trolls do. Nothing to be sorry about. U make zero difference in Raider personnel choices. Pryor will be developed. “sorry”
December 31st, 2012 at 2:30 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:21 pm
DA threw Knapp under the bus the train the boats the wildlife and everything else. It’s what he does…..period
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Huh? From the second Knapps name was announced all there was in the Raider Nation was screaming and gnashing of teeth! And Knapp did nothing to change that. So Allen fired him, and now Allen is wrong? You have to check yourself man you are not making sense.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:31 pm
Pryor is the starting QB next year.
He can go 4-12 just as well as Palmer does. (For a lot less money)
December 31st, 2012 at 2:31 pm
Interesting.
Across the wires it says Pryor is a project. He’s way behind the 8ball, trying to catch up. That MAYBE he just might develop into a backup qb.
Guess with tainted glasses you can pick and choose what you see?
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Again, ______, I’m not saying he’s a starter. I’m saying he played well. No agenda. Just what I saw with my own two eyes.
I guess with your tainted glasses, you can pick and choose what you read?
December 31st, 2012 at 2:31 pm
850.LA to TheBay Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:28 pm
Pryor has PLENTY of arm strength. I think his release point is too high, which is why he’s rainbowing it too often. He can zing it.
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Yeah. He looks good when he steps into his throws. But he’s too jittery. Needs to focus on his reads rather than what the Oline is or isn’t doing.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:31 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Pryor cant throw? I must have missed those throws to Streater.. or the ones Reece/ Te dropped.
Good thing nobody judges a qb off of 1 game. Only trolls do. Nothing to be sorry about. U make zero difference in Raider personnel choices. Pryor will be developed. “sorry”
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Why would they develop him? They saw what he could do. And it wasn’t much. Nothing to develop. Sorry.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:32 pm
I am not hating on Pryor, I have simply never seen him as a competent passing QB. Nothing looked different to me yesterday that would cause me to change my mind. Rainbows. That can work if you are super accurate and have good WRs….see Rivers….but Pryor will never be that accurate of a passer.
I will go out on a limb and say he will never have a 300 yard passing game in the NFL.
If he does have a 300 yard passing game in the next year as a Raider I will eat my hat and kiss his azz and beg for forgiveness.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:32 pm
852.neilb Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:28 pm
Thought Philly was Grudens home town.
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He’s an Ohio guy I thought.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Terrelle Pryor Pre-Draft Workout with Chad Ochocinco and Antonio Brown
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvLqV7tmZDs
Why so much hate on his throwing motion? Don’t even say Tebow. You guys are full crap. TP will be just fine as the Raider starting QB in 2013.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:32 pm
neal…on DA
“all these players played great in college and all
of sudden they cant play for the raiders?”
“are you putting a band aid on a shotgun wound?”
“his staff…dennis allens staff, reggie mckenzies staff and after 1 year youre firing your people you hand picked you brought in…”
Romo
“who hired these guys…they didnt do a very good job or did they need someone to blame this on?”
December 31st, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Pryor is the starting QB next year.
He can go 4-12 just as well as Palmer does. Maybe even better.(For a lot less money)
December 31st, 2012 at 2:33 pm
I just heard a report.. CHIP KELLY MAY BE HEADED TO PANTHERS if they fire their coach.
Wants to coach CAM NEWTON
December 31st, 2012 at 2:34 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:31 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Pryor cant throw? I must have missed those throws to Streater.. or the ones Reece/ Te dropped.
Good thing nobody judges a qb off of 1 game. Only trolls do. Nothing to be sorry about. U make zero difference in Raider personnel choices. Pryor will be developed. “sorry”
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Why would they develop him? They saw what he could do. And it wasn’t much. Nothing to develop. Sorry.
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Terrelle Pryor Pre-Draft Workout with Chad Ochocinco and Antonio Brown
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvLqV7tmZDs
December 31st, 2012 at 2:34 pm
neal…”i dont think dennis allen is capable of leading these men….”
December 31st, 2012 at 2:34 pm
I will go out on a limb and say he will never have a 300 yard passing game in the NFL.
If he does have a 300 yard passing game in the next year as a Raider I will eat my hat and kiss his azz and beg for forgiveness.
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RUE THE DAY LIST
1. Dakota
December 31st, 2012 at 2:34 pm
BTW all those Chicago bears fans are about to find out real quick the grass isnt always greener.
Ask Raider fans after Hue Jackson left 10-6 lovie canned? Horrible
December 31st, 2012 at 2:34 pm
One thing though. You won’t hear anybody calling Palmer a “check Casher”
December 31st, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Yes,you’re right Ohio.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Alright i’m gone! Happy New Year to the Raider Nation. Good luck, be safe, enjoy the good news.
For those who wanted the entire staff gone? Baby Steps
December 31st, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Why would they develop him? They saw what he could do. And it wasn’t much. Nothing to develop. Sorry.
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y wouldnt they. sorry for what? u are a nobody
December 31st, 2012 at 2:37 pm
870.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:34 pm
BTW all those Chicago bears fans are about to find out real quick the grass isnt always greener.
Ask Raider fans after Hue Jackson left 10-6 lovie canned? Horrible
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Bears should have kept Lovie and hired Norv as OC. But 9 years is a long time to be a HC of a team….players might have started to tune him out.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Lana kiffin was ranked #1 to begin the season and Georgia Tech just throttled them in the bpottom of the barrel bowl.
I hope Lana is looking for work next week
December 31st, 2012 at 2:38 pm
dilfer…” ive talked to 10 defensive top defensive coaches and this pistol offense is impossible to stop…”
romo is in pryors corner
December 31st, 2012 at 2:38 pm
What Pryor showed us is that he is indeed the intriguing project that most thought he was and he’s worth developing. He surprised most people yesterday (around the league, not so much here in the circus) and should be back as a #2 next year and will show up in camp improved.
That’s all.
Next?
Defense anyone?
December 31st, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Any old schoolers left out there?
December 31st, 2012 at 2:39 pm
871.KoolKell Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:34 pm
One thing though. You won’t hear anybody calling Palmer a “check Casher”
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No kidding. Terelle Pryor thinks the world of him, and gives Palmer a lot of credit for his development as a quarterback.
Not uncommon to have a veteran backup mentor the new kid, but very unusual for that mentor to be the current veteran starter. What Palmer is doing for Pryor is way above the call of duty.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Hue toenails Johnson cant lift Luvie Smith’s jock
December 31st, 2012 at 2:39 pm
850.LA to TheBay Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:28 pm
Pryor has PLENTY of arm strength. I think his release point is too high, which is why he’s rainbowing it too often. He can zing it.
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Is Pryor still in the 9th grade? If it ain’t fixed by now, it NEVER WILL BE!
December 31st, 2012 at 2:40 pm
So, the Raiders fired his whole coaching staff?
December 31st, 2012 at 2:40 pm
876.Plunketthead Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Lana kiffin was ranked #1 to begin the season and Georgia Tech just throttled them in the bpottom of the barrel bowl.
I hope Lana is looking for work next week
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USC AD already said he’ll be back. Yikes.
I’ll sure take Lanes WR recruits though.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:40 pm
RaidO Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:21 pm
Back-N-Black Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:15 pm
The Chicago Tribune reports Jon Gruden is now “leaning hard” toward staying at ESPN, and “turning down coaching feelers.”
Consider it the latest episode of As the Gruden Turns. Gruden is subject to more rumors and innuendo than Lindsay Lohan, but has never truly come close to leaving ESPN since he was hired in 2009. This could just be a leverage ploy, but if Gruden has turned down coaching overtures three years running, what’s a fourth? At this point, we wouldn’t consider him likely to abandon Mike Tirico.
……..
Guess when he found out Allen was keeping his job he decided to wait… (????)
Maybe he really wanted the Oakland job after all.
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LOL, CBS Sports says:
Ex-Raiders, Bucs coach Gruden to interview for open NFL jobs
Despite public protestations he’s happy in his current position as a television analyst, Jon Gruden will interview with NFL teams for their head coaching position, according to people with knowledge of the situation.
Over the past few weeks, teams have quietly contacted Gruden and/or his representatives to gauge Gruden’s interest. In response, Gruden and/or his representatives informed teams Gruden would speak to them once the regular season ended.
Well, the regular season has ended, and Gruden will begin talking to those teams maybe as early as Monday. Gruden is currently an analyst for ESPN and has said publicly he will stay at the network.
However, privately, the Gruden camp has acted differently, and let it be known the former coach is interested in returning to the NFL. This doesn’t mean he will return. This means he’s interested in doing so if the right job opens up.
Two teams to pay close attention to regarding Gruden are Philadelphia and San Diego (although the Chargers might focus on a younger coach).
………..
The Chicago Tribune report was HOURS after the CBS report from this morning.
Both updates were on Rotoworld. The Tribune report was from this afternoon.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:40 pm
876.Plunketthead Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Lana kiffin was ranked #1 to begin the season and Georgia Tech just throttled them in the bpottom of the barrel bowl.
I hope Lana is looking for work next week
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Careful what you wish for…..the Raiders are looking for an OC.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Dakota Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:32 pm
I am not hating on Pryor, I have simply never seen him as a competent passing QB. Nothing looked different to me yesterday that would cause me to change my mind. Rainbows. That can work if you are super accurate and have good WRs…
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My feelings exactly. Not hating, I wanted him to be Donovan Mcnabb out there. But the NFL quality talent just is not there. His balls might have worked in college but not at this level. And now that defenses know that he throws high arching balloons, DC’s will sit in zones, break on that balloon and pick it almost every time.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:41 pm
882.Dakota Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:39 pm
850.LA to TheBay Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:28 pm
Pryor has PLENTY of arm strength. I think his release point is too high, which is why he’s rainbowing it too often. He can zing it.
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Is Pryor still in the 9th grade? If it ain’t fixed by now, it NEVER WILL BE!
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Shame it was week 17. Nothing to discuss on that front until camp next year I suppose.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:42 pm
Dakota Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:39 pm
850.LA to TheBay Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:28 pm
Pryor has PLENTY of arm strength. I think his release point is too high, which is why he’s rainbowing it too often. He can zing it.
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Is Pryor still in the 9th grade? If it ain’t fixed by now, it NEVER WILL BE!
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Stop the hate
Terrelle Pryor Pre-Draft Workout with Chad Ochocinco and Antonio Brown
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvLqV7tmZDs
December 31st, 2012 at 2:42 pm
So, the Raiders fired Denise’s whole coaching staff?
December 31st, 2012 at 2:42 pm
Dakota Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:32 pm
I am not hating on Pryor, I have simply never seen him as a competent passing QB. Nothing looked different to me yesterday that would cause me to change my mind. Rainbows. That can work if you are super accurate and have good WRs….see Rivers….but Pryor will never be that accurate of a passer.
I will go out on a limb and say he will never have a 300 yard passing game in the NFL.
If he does have a 300 yard passing game in the next year as a Raider I will eat my hat and kiss his azz and beg for forgiveness.
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I’m not saying he WILL, or he WON’T…..I’ve been made to look stupid on a yearly basis with college and NFL combined. I’m right ALOT….I’m also Wrong ALOT… So what? I don’t think Pryor is as bad as people are making him out to be. He’s also not as good as some claim he is. I’ve probably seen more of Pryor’s college ball than most Raider fans cause Buckeye’s are my 2nd team. He was their Rock, and ran that offense; Always seemed to find a way, and I’ve seen him throw Darts, and pinpoint 50 yard passes. He CAN do it…. He just didn’t display his best in the 60 min that we saw.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:43 pm
I’m out.
A very happy New Year to you all and all the best from this side of the pond.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:44 pm
I remember all of the knee jerkers last year saying how Mark Jackson should be fired and how incompetent he was. Stability will never come with a coaching carousel. Never.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:44 pm
RaiderDogg Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Any old schoolers left out there?
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Can’t deal with the current level of football iq in the blog? It is pretty weak.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:45 pm
351.Thec Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 12:30 pm
Quote from Bill Williamson;
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest
Pryor prove himself? I really liked what I saw from Terrelle Pryor on Sunday. He showed leadership, poise and heart.
He is not a finished product, but I think there is something Oakland can work with. There are a lot of young, dynamic quarterbacks in this league. I think Oakland had to make developing Pryor quickly a priority. Carson Palmer is 33, expensive, and not improving.
If Pryor makes big strides in the offseason, I don’t think it would be a terrible idea for Oakland to consider handing him the starting job. This team will be still rebuilding for the next couple of years. Might as well give the kid a chance.
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Bill williamson was number 1 guy against Pryor being anything.. His stance today. Still hope for u Pryor naysayers
December 31st, 2012 at 2:46 pm
new post
December 31st, 2012 at 2:47 pm
POST-865,SO 4-12 IS OK AS LONG AS ITS CHEAP ?
December 31st, 2012 at 2:47 pm
I’m not saying he WILL, or he WON’T…..I’ve been made to look stupid on a yearly basis with college and NFL combined. I’m right ALOT….I’m also Wrong ALOT… So what? I don’t think Pryor is as bad as people are making him out to be. He’s also not as good as some claim he is. I’ve probably seen more of Pryor’s college ball than most Raider fans cause Buckeye’s are my 2nd team. He was their Rock, and ran that offense; Always seemed to find a way, and I’ve seen him throw Darts, and pinpoint 50 yard passes. He CAN do it…. He just didn’t display his best in the 60 min that we saw.
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I agree. I watched all of his college games and the Rose bowl where he was MVP.
He can make throws like the one he did for 38 yards to streater just dropped a dime.. also does floaters. The key for him will be conistency. Make no mistake though. He can compete at this level. The chargers had 11 sacks against Greg McEleroy the previous week. They hardly touched Pryor .. they came close tho.. Pryor was elusive
December 31st, 2012 at 2:48 pm
I do not know why but that was the first press conference that I did not want to slap DA’s face off. Must have something to do with Knapp being fired.
I think DA has a ton of work to do on player relations and attitude but WTF do I know. He could still be fired.
Just wait and see I guess.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:49 pm
Realtruraider Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 1:31 pm
Yep Knapp had a few posters swingin from his sack this season, JFB and Raider Riff to name a couple, they cannot be happy with this news lol
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I could care less. I was never a Knapp fan. I was just honest about him not being the issue. The problem was with execution or lackthereof by our O-Line and WRs.
Our O-Line was getting beat physically. Our WRs dropped way too many balls. That changes the complextion of a game beyond what a OC can fix with just tricky play calling.
Is Knapp the greatest play caller ever? No. He’s average. Hue and Norv are the two best. But we didnt need Knapp to be brilliant, we just needed our WRs to do their damn jobs.
I also defended Knapp because the people criticising him are a bunch of no-nothings that couldnt break down scotch tape let alone NFL game tape. You guys have no business questioning scheme or strategy because as far as youre concerned, its a foreign language.
Firing Knapp only bothers me for one reason and that is because it looks like our young WR core and O-Line will be learning yet another offensive system. That will be 5 different systems in 5 years for guys like DHB. That sucks.
If the WR group continues to drop passes at the rate they do, and DMC continues to miss large portions of the season when we need him most, and we go another season without a playmaking DE on defense…. then it wont matter who our new OC is unfortunately.
December 31st, 2012 at 2:50 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:42 pm
So, the Raiders fired Denise’s whole coaching staff?
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I have no idea who “Denise” is.
If you’re referring to DENNIS, he fired his OC, o-line coach, special teams coach and linebackers coach. Hardly the “whole coaching staff.”
December 31st, 2012 at 2:58 pm
YEEEEESSSSSSSS. Now we can keep DMC
December 31st, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Knapps out like i said since day 1… have fun eating that crow
December 31st, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Repost
Born with a Patch Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 11:12 am
Knapp should be canned by the end of the day. Tarver didn’t do a great job but had alot of practice squad talent to work with. I say we replace Knapp with Tressel! Give Pryor some comfort in the Tressel type system and let him grow. He has the tools, he needs the backing. Everybody can agree that Palmer is not a long term solution, he was a reach to save last season. If we hadn’t spent so much on getting him, he’d prob be gone already. What you guys think? Rid Knapp, Keep Tarver and get him some NFL caliber players and hire Tressel
We all knew he’d be out today. Who do we bring in? No way Norv would come back and i wouldn’t want him back either. I’ll pass on Reid, he likes the WCO and couldn’t do anything with Vick. Whisenhunt might get another HC position.
Sounds like a plan, Kipers top 2 are Jones and Teo draft the ND star at all costs, pick up Jacobs cheap as a replacement for MBush Pyror has Randall Cunningham written all over that last draft pick of Al Davis given the success of RG3 & DangeRuss the old man may have been prescient Anyhow HNY RN easy come easy go
December 31st, 2012 at 3:39 pm
Lo Neal is a straight talker and he stated DA needed to find himself as the HC of the Raiders. I see do not see his worth to the Raiders unless he has a different approach on how he evaluates a team. People that say Pryor is not worth any valve now have to explain why Dennis Allen how thinks differently about Pryor’s ability. Now, Allen says he is not mindset to any one particular offense. Well good because he wasted a season to figure that out. Eventually he may learn something but I think he is a little slow. Instead of admitting he should have keep the offense that had success he stated he did not want to look back at what he done to destroy it. That is not addressing the problem head on. I get the feeling from the presser everyone made mistake except for Reggie and Dennis Allen. Yes lets move on from every mistake me and Reggie made and can everyone else.
December 31st, 2012 at 4:29 pm
2romes Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 3:39 pm
Lo Neal is a straight talker and he stated DA needed to find himself as the HC of the Raiders. I see do not see his worth to the Raiders unless he has a different approach on how he evaluates a team. People that say Pryor is not worth any valve now have to explain why Dennis Allen how thinks differently about Pryor’s ability. Now, Allen says he is not mindset to any one particular offense. Well good because he wasted a season to figure that out. Eventually he may learn something but I think he is a little slow. Instead of admitting he should have keep the offense that had success he stated he did not want to look back at what he done to destroy it. That is not addressing the problem head on. I get the feeling from the presser everyone made mistake except for Reggie and Dennis Allen. Yes lets move on from every mistake me and Reggie made and can everyone else.
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Theyre under contract, and they are staying. Lets deal with the OC question and move on please.
December 31st, 2012 at 4:30 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:50 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 31st, 2012 at 2:42 pm
So, the Raiders fired Denise’s whole coaching staff?
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I have no idea who “Denise” is.
If you’re referring to DENNIS, he fired his OC, o-line coach, special teams coach and linebackers coach. Hardly the “whole coaching staff.”
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I mean DO PEOPLE READ THE FREAKING ARTICLE? Its in Inside Bay Area.
December 31st, 2012 at 4:40 pm
“Pryor prove himself? I really liked what I saw from Terrelle Pryor on Sunday. He showed leadership, poise and heart.
He is not a finished product, but I think there is something Oakland can work with. There are a lot of young, dynamic quarterbacks in this league. I think Oakland had to make developing Pryor quickly a priority. Carson Palmer is 33, expensive, and not improving.
If Pryor makes big strides in the offseason, I don’t think it would be a terrible idea for Oakland to consider handing him the starting job. This team will be still rebuilding for the next couple of years. Might as well give the kid a chance.”
Bill Williamson
December 31st, 2012 at 4:59 pm
“than please explain how rgIII kappy and wilson are in the playoffs with these offenses?”
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They’re all NFL caliber quarterbacks.
Let’s watch and see how the college stuff plays long term. That was my point.
I was talking about a college offense for a COLLEGE caliber quarterback and the prospect of success with it LONG TERM.
December 31st, 2012 at 7:14 pm
You know what…
Its clear DA is on notice…RM too…they now have NO excuses. KRAPP is gone..they have all ofseason to get THEIR man (that better ft our personnel this time). No 2nd 3rd and 4th choices.
I wanted the CLOWNE COACHE CADRE gone…but I do think our D has shored up. Ganted we started from dumpster fire status but Tarver should be given another year. If you dump DA Tarver goes too.
I was worried KRAPP and OL and ST coaches would remain.
I am reluctantly willing to give D0A 1 more year…RM too…
This is it though. No ‘5 yr’ BS plan/built in excuse. I also think we need to move away from expeNsive old stop gaps (read: definitely palmer/seymour, probably kelly and maybe huff). This helps our cap and draft options enourmously
I want to see this guy also become more adaptive and less pigheaded. he was as flexible as a stalagtite this past year.
OC OL and ST choices should be ‘okayed’ by RM as well.
NO MORE FREE REIGN/PASSES.
Not for THIS guy anyway.
anything less than 8-8 = INSTAFIRE
2013—> NO EXCUSES…
One big PS: Gruden truly available? ELIMINATE ALL TEXT ABOVE…GOOD BYE DA HELLO CHUCKSTER!
December 31st, 2012 at 7:17 pm
[...] Breaking news: Raiders fire off. coord. Knapp, three other coaches The Raiders on Monday fired offensive coordinator Greg Knapp in response to a drastic drop in production. A person familiar with the situation confirmed the news. The Raiders also fired offensive line coach Frank Pollack, special teams coordinator St… [...]
December 31st, 2012 at 7:39 pm
Way to go DA! It’s about time! Hey D.A., if Hue Jackson’s ego does not get in the way, why don’t you bring him back? He was a great offensive coordinator.
December 31st, 2012 at 9:39 pm
“(Jerry Angelo) made a number of poor moves and trades until his eventual dismissal by Dan Snyder in 1999″
“first round draft of offensive tackle Chris Williams from Vanderbilt was mired in controversy as Angelo and team doctors knew Williams had a herniated disc before drafting him. It turned out to be a complete wasted pick”
“Somewhere along the way, Al Davis went completely insane, hired and fired coaches over and over again”
1. poor moves and trades
2. wasted draft picks
3. firing and hiring coaches over and over again
see the themes here?
December 31st, 2012 at 10:28 pm
I have nothing against Greg Knapp as a person, but I am surely glad that he is gone! But we surely, need to address the situation about Peyton Manning. What in the world will we do about Peyton Manning? I don’t have a clue.
January 1st, 2013 at 1:34 am
Reggie and DA should not have gone fully away from Davis’ vision, should have embraced it, for that alone they should be fired. Plus they gave away so much potential in the preseason in exchange for 3rd tier players . . . The patchwork, leftovers in the secondary was tragic.
January 1st, 2013 at 9:09 am
I see people suggesting we should bring Norv back.
Are you out of your freaking minds?
I have thoroughly enjoyed watching Norv dstroy SD from within for years. Sad to see him go. SD might get good again.
It was like watching Newt run for pres.
And some boneheads think we ought to hire him? Hey let’s go get Art Shell too.
January 1st, 2013 at 2:08 pm
Mercury News: The way this blog is set up isn’t very good. The comments run in a huge line and if I wish to reply to comment #1 my reply is down here at 917. It makes no sense. Also, why is it when I go to a Raider’s article I cannot comment below but if go to any other article the comments option is below? It’s aggravating and makes me not want to use your site. If I click on an article the text should come up quickly and by itself. I shouldn’t have to wait for the entire page to reload, including all the ads and other baloney no one cares about. The design of your on-line paper is very bad and clunky. If you want to compete make the damn thing easy to use. Right now it isn’t. It could be so much better than it currently is. I don’t mean for this to sound angry or condescending but I’m frustrated by the design and interface of your site. As I said, it’s not very good.
January 1st, 2013 at 2:28 pm
I think the coaching situation with the Raiders is the same as their situation with their players. They don’t have a lot of money at the moment to get the guys they really wanted. I think they went with what they could afford.
The defense started to improve once they got rid of that huge hole right in the middle. That huge hole named Rolando McClain. Am I the only one who noticed once he was out of the middle things started to get better?
Something I found interesting was this: Why, in the zone blocking scheme were all the other backs able to gain yardage but McFadden wasn’t? I don’t think McFadden is that good. He’s a race-horse, a thorough bred and if you can get him into the open field he can use his speed but how often can you get a back into the open field? I much prefer Reese to McFadden. Reese gained yardage every time he was in there, zone blocking or no zone blocking. Reese can also catch the ball, play wide out, he can even tackle. The biggest thing? He doesn’t get hurt every other play.
It’s time for Seymour to be gone. Houston is their best defensive linemen. Tommy Kelly is OK but for his size he doesn’t do much except get stupid penalties and jump off-side. I’d keep him and put him over center on field goals and extra points because he’s so tall.
Wheeler, Burris, and the new guy in the middle make for a pretty good, active set of line backers. They want to play and like to play as opposed to someone like McClain.
Ford will be back next year, Streater is there, Hagan, and Moore. I like this group. DHB is on the bubble in my book.
The D-back were hurt all year. I think next year they’ll be better. The second tier guys started to gel at the end so that can only help the overall depth of this team come next season.
Jano is still there but Lechler might be gone because of money. Sad but punters are not that hard to get and if with Shane’s pay they can get a punter and another guy, that is best for the team.
I like the O-line. I think they did a pretty good job considering Palmer had to throw so much because McD couldn’t do much and the D had trouble stopping people. I’m not sure how I would go in the draft but I do like Reggie’s philosophy to go with quality guys who love the game, think team first, and just want to get better. Allen’s long term approach is also good. This is a process. It’s one step at a time, brick by brick.
Over the course of the season I saw progress, then plateau, then more progress towards the end. Early on the mistakes of one week were not repeated the next. There was some digression weeks 6 and 7 but I think Allen was getting the most out of his players considering all the injuries. There were much fewer penalties and even though they were losing they were getting better. So there was overall improvement early on, a slight regression, plateau, and then more progress on the defensive side of the ball late in the season.
Thank you Raiders. I enjoyed watching the process. Keep your heads up. Keep striving. Keep going forward. It will be a lot of work but bit by bit things will come together and then suddenly, the Raiders will once again be a team to be reckoned with. Go Raiders. Just win baby. Pride and poise. Play smart. Play hard. Be the bigger man. Dominate. Have heart. No give. No quit. 60 minutes. Till the whistle. Clean, hard, strong, smart football.
Oakland Raiders. Silver and black. There is nothing better.