QB Pryor talks about season, moving forward
By Steve Corkran
Monday, January 7th, 2013 at 11:27 am in Oakland Raiders.
Second-year quarterback Terrelle Pryor finally got an opportunity to play in a regular-season game this year. He also received his first start, in the regular-season finale against the San Diego Chargers.
A day after the game, Pryor paused to reflect upon his performance in that game, his two years with the Raiders and how he intends to work on improving during the offseason.
Here’s the transcript from the 13-minute interview in the locker room before Pryor departed Alameda for the final time in 2012:
Q: Thoughts after watching tape from Sunday’s game?
Pryor: “Actually, just when I met with, I went into coach Flip’s office, he pointed out a couple of things that I did. The flag we got, I threw a bomb to DHB, he just mentioned that if I would have faked it and stayed back on it, I would have had better vision. Instead of a penalty, we would have completed it. I agreed with him on that. Also, there’s a couple of plays I missed, whether it was miscommunication with me and the receivers. It’s just, I haven’t had a lot of reps with the guys, so it’s tough to be on (the same) page. But, just for going out and having fun and trying to get some plays, draw ‘em up and make them work, I thought we did a decent job. My biggest thing is, before I went to bed I was very mad at myself that I didn’t get out of bounds because we could have had a field goal. D.A. preaches that all the time. All I was trying to do was make him miss. I knew because when I was running, I was looking at the clock. I knew I had to get out but I ended up slipping. I didn’t get out. I was very mad about that because that’s my time where I’m a leader. That’s an example that he can show. ‘T.P. got out of bounds on this play and this is the type of stuff we need.’ I didn’t do it, so.”
Q: You got out of the huddle on time, no penalties, no sacks, plenty to build on?
Pryor: “Oh, yeah, like I said, them guys had 11 sacks, I was telling you guys on Wednesday about the Jets and stuff like that. I got rid of the ball well. There’s a couple of accuracy things that I need to fix. I was telling you yesterday, when guys are in my lap, with the flick wrist, I need to work on that a little bit. I need to make sure I complete that. That pick I threw, that’s what happened. Them guys were in my lap, but in the NFL you got to make those throws and I experienced that firsthand yesterday. So, I appreciate it more. Definitely it’s something to build off of. I wish we could have won, obviously, but it’s something to build off of. I’m very excited that I started. I can go home and can feel like somehow hold my head up high that I accomplished one of my goals of starting at least one game and lead the guys like I know how to do.”
Q: Any part of you that feels as if you should be considered for the starting job?
Pryor: “I don’t want to get into thoughts of that because I respect Carson as a human being, as a guy that, when everybody counted me out as a quarterback, said I couldn’t do this or that, he’s the one that said, ‘I believe in you.’ He’s told me so many times that he believes in me. No disrespect to you guys, I just don’t want to get into comments about that because I love the guy as a human being, I love him for the father he is to his kids, the husband he is to his wife, and I love him as a teammate. I love the guy and I really don’t want to discuss that.”
Q: Thoughts on learning a new offense now that Greg Knapp is gone?
Pryor: “Like coach Flip said, ‘You grinded hard learning Greg’s offense. You know that offense. Last year you were kind of getting kind of involved with Hue, so there’s not many other different ways you can learn an offense.’ So, when the OC gets in here, I’m going to be in here and I want to know exactly, I want the playbook, I want to start getting on it. I’m sad that Greg left. Really loved the guy as a coach. He’s a great coach. That’s the business. Coach Allen, like he said at the team meeting, he made the best decision. Whether we agree with it or not, it doesn’t matter. We have a great leader in D.A. I believe in him. Everybody in the locker room believes in him. He’s our leader. Now we leaders that are going to step up and say, ‘Alright, you guys get on our back, and I’m going to lead.’ That’s what we need from guys. We’re going to have that starting in February. I hope guys are accountable, we can hold guys accountable to be here and get some good work in here in February, when they open the doors.”
Q: Do you think you could have helped a little more if they’d used you in red zone earlier this season than they did?
Pryor: “I believe in my abilities 100 percent. Whether I am or not, I think I’m the best athlete on the field. I’m not saying that in a cocky way at all. That’s just the person that I am. I believe I can make plays. I believe I have energy to get guys going. That’s just who I am. I think so. But like I said, we had a good OC. It’s hard putting in a first-year offense and trying to get a hold of it. I know a lot of guys didn’t have a hold of it great. So it’s tough. But yeah, I believe I could have helped.”
Q: Is it odd in a way that you did get your opportunity because Carson was hurt?
Pryor: “I think that’s God’s way of saying me and Carson and Matt were here, and it time for me to show that I can contribute in some way. I’m a big believer and follower of the Lord, so whatever happened is why it happened. That’s where my belief is.”
Q: Was it almost like riding a bike Sunday? The last time you started a game was the Sugar Bowl.
A: “Definitely. I was down yesterday, but what made me feel good was when Khalif Barnes came up to me after the game on the plane and was like, ‘You did a great job. Got us in and out of the huddle. Sometimes you mumbled out the plays and you weren’t sure, but you jumped right back on it and were like, OK, this is the play. You had us upbeat. You were moving us, had us excited, had some energy. ‘ He said, ‘I love that.’ And he said, ‘The thing I loved the most about you,’ and I didn’t really understand it until he explained it a little more, he said, ‘When you threw that pick, you came back in the huddle and you (were like) nothing happened. OK, let’s go.’ I was amazed. It’s funny how guys look at everything about you. Everything. I remember the coach this morning, he was saying, ‘You were talking to defensive guys when they were about to go on the field, and their eyes snapped and they all paid attention to you. They were all alert when you were talking. As soon as you started talking, they were looking right at you. They didn’t even listen to the coaches, giving them details on the next series.’ That’s footsteps, and that’s a blessing that guys look up to me and have energy from me.”
Q: How important is that? I look at what you did when Mike (Goodson) was in the fight and you were barking at him. How important is that for you to have that respect?
Pryor: “I think that’s huge. I think this team needs leadership, whether it’s multiple guys leading or two or three guys. We need it. You look at all the top teams right now going to the playoffs. They have leaders, great leaders on offense and defense, maybe multiples. I think leadership is key because the guys are going to follow and get energy from a certain guy. You have to be able to lead and they have to believe that you’re always in the game.”
Q: As a guy who hadn’t played, was there ever any question in your mind whether they would have your back so quickly? Or was it something you thought would take awhile?
Pryor: “This week at practice was amazing. Like the strength coach here was saying, just your voice fluctuation, just the way you carried yourself, you were different. You were a different person.”
Q: Did you feel different?
Pryor: “A lot different. I felt in full command. I was excited. I had so much energy. I love that.”
Q: How tough is that when you have that much energy and now you have to shut it down?
Pryor: “During the game Knapp was like, ‘Calm down,’ because I was so excited. I was upbeat. I was like, ‘Come on guys, let’s go.’ Maybe too much, but that’s just who I am. I’m a very fiery guy. I love to go out and compete. I’m so proud of the guys that we came back. We were playing bad at first. I’m excited.”
Q: What do you pinpoint to work on this offseason?
Pryor: “What I’m going to do is, what I really want to do is get the film cut up from this past game and see what I could have did better, make some workouts, some drills from that. ‘Cause the movements that I made yesterday, it’s only going to get better in the pocket. But when I’m out scrambling, I just want to see how, just keep performing it so it’s even more second nature. It’s already second nature but just make it more.”
Q: What was going through your head when you were throwing the ball, putting touch on it?
Pryor: “What I learned, and even Carson was telling me that, throughout his years, you’re going to make different throws. Some of them got to have touch, some of them got to be zipped, some of them got to be thrown sidearm, some fo them got to be thrown without a wrist or follow-through. The one without the follow-throughs really messed me up yesterday. Because I never experienced guys in my lap. In practice, you’re not allowed to come nowhere near me. It was just different. But now that I know, I’m going to have my big brother — he’s 6-5, about 350 — and I’m going to have him stand right in front of me and I’m just going to throw. Throw seam balls, 30 yards, so I can’t miss it.
Q: You and Norv Turner?
Pryor: “I swear that he was messing with me a little bit during the game. Even before the game he was like, he gave me some praise and also said, Go out and have some fun. Cut it loose. It was weird. It was a weird connection me and him had. I don’t know.”
Q: Ever met him before?
Pryor: “No, never.”
Q: Might be your coordinator coming up?
Pryor: “That’s maybe what he was hinting at. I don’t know.”
Q: The Norv and Terrelle Show?
Pryor: “I don’t know, but I’m sure DA and Mr. McKenzie will definitely find the guy that’s going to fit and is going to lead us to next year.”
Q: How fine a line between frustration and challenging to have to learn a third NFL offense in three years next year?
Pryor: “Hey, I look at it as exciting and something to look forward to. A lot of people say that you have to be in the same offense. Yeah, it would help. It definitely would because everything would become second nature. But there’s only so many flat, curl-flat reads or there’s only so many reads. You’ve just got to get the concept, the language and I believe, I look at myself a a smart guy and a lot of people view me as that, too. And I don’t think I’ll have a problem with that. It’s going to have to be more urgent now. If I want to have a chance to be able to lead this team one day, I need to be urgent, learn stuff fast and have the footwork intact, fast. And that’s what I’m going to be very focused on.”
Q: Having waited so long for opportunity, was it everything you hoped for?
Pryor: “Yeah, I wanted to lead this team, any way I could. Whether it was a couple of plays or whatever. I just wanted to get on the field and try to earn respect of my teammates. That’s all I could ask for. I had the opportunity to do that yesterday.”
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January 7th, 2013 at 11:31 am
Yesssss
January 7th, 2013 at 11:31 am
Boring….should have went with the best ND-Alabama players who also played for the Raiders….smh
January 7th, 2013 at 11:33 am
storage wars is real dude. I get into bidding wars with these bro’s all the time. money $$$$
January 7th, 2013 at 11:35 am
stroganoff is schitt on a shingle dude
January 7th, 2013 at 11:37 am
I got 5 on it!
January 7th, 2013 at 11:37 am
TP6!!!!!!!
January 7th, 2013 at 11:38 am
Q: Is it odd in a way that you did get your opportunity because Carson was hurt?
Pryor: “I think that’s God’s way of saying me and Carson and Matt were here, and it time for me to show that I can contribute in some way. I’m a big believer and follower of the Lord, so whatever happened is why it happened. That’s where my belief is.”
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God didn’t hurt Palmer…..or crappy o-line did!
Joeckel in 2013!
January 7th, 2013 at 11:38 am
TP6 For MVP
January 7th, 2013 at 11:40 am
It says right here that Norv is officially on watch for the vacant OC job in Oakland.
link: http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2013/01/07/qb-pryor-talks-about-season-moving-forward/
January 7th, 2013 at 11:40 am
theghostronin79 Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 11:39 am
He does have an eye for the ball and has alot of heart but all I hear is that he’s a giant leader but doesnt leads by hid words but his actions on the field buttttttt thats the same thing I heard about McClain. Sorry if I get freaked out about taking a LB so low but McClain has scarred me and we have so many needs at so many positions that trading down mite benefit us alot more.
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Somebody compared the 2 earlier this year….
Romac : Picture of him smiling that cheezy grin while in hand cuffs..
Te’o : Picture of him In the stands cheering for his little sisters volleyball game.
Totally different character molds these 2.
January 7th, 2013 at 11:41 am
yo
January 7th, 2013 at 11:44 am
One thing you gotta give TP credit for is: there were ZERO false starts, ZERO timeouts on offense unnecessarily and ZERO delay of games. He seemed to control well.
January 7th, 2013 at 11:45 am
TP6 luvs CP3!
January 7th, 2013 at 11:45 am
Q: Having waited so long for opportunity, was it everything you hoped for?
Pryor: “Yeah, I wanted to lead this team, any way I could. Whether it was a couple of plays or whatever. I just wanted to get on the field and try to earn respect of my teammates. That’s all I could ask for. I had the opportunity to do that yesterday.”
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Reminds me of Moonlight Graham
January 7th, 2013 at 11:47 am
3611.John David Booty Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 10:09 am
Chiefs hire Andy Reid, great offensive mind, and are looking to bring in Monte Kiffin for DC. Thats a lot of football intelligence and experience for a team talented enough to send 5 players to the Pro Bowl this season.
San Diego is interviewing Tom Gamble for their GM position. Tom is respected in the league, and has the ability to bring some good coaching talent with him. I think he’s done a real good job with the 9ers personnel and helping them build a solid team. We’ll see what happens there, but SD is looking to improve from what theyve been doing.
Broncos are in the playoffs, won the division, enough said.
Oakland Raiders. We dont have an O-line coach or an OC, two EXTREMELY important aspects of a staff, and would also be a huge advantage to us in the Senior Bowl coming up. We also have no Special Teams coach. Yet, we dont even hear a single word about potential candidates.
Whats going on Raiders? Im not impressed with what Im seeing so far this offseason. As horribly as they handled 2012, you would think theyd be hard at work trying to improve this staff, but we dont even hear a peep, while the other teams in our division are actively at work.
I need to hear something, anything regarding a plan to improve the coaching staff for next season.
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Agreed. This is becoming troubling…
January 7th, 2013 at 11:48 am
“Because I never experienced guys in my lap.” TP
You went to The Ohio State University….guys were all up in your lap all the time….not that there is anything wrong with that….
January 7th, 2013 at 11:50 am
‘You were talking to defensive guys when they were about to go on the field, and their eyes snapped and they all paid attention to you. They were all alert when you were talking. As soon as you started talking, they were looking right at you. They didn’t even listen to the coaches, giving them details on the next series.’
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That’s not a good thing.
January 7th, 2013 at 11:53 am
theghostronin79 Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 11:23 am
WhoEVER we take at #3 isn’t going to break the bank anyway. All that needs to be decided is “What do we need more?”
A Captian of our Defense? Or elite pass rush?
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How long has it been since we’ve had a rookie provide an immediate impact on Defense? I’d say not since C Woodson in 98. Hope Te’o is the man.
January 7th, 2013 at 11:54 am
Tp seperatef himself.from tebow and webb. Niether did anything without an offense designed for them. Even rg3 didnt look good without running. Tp was trying to be a pocket qb
January 7th, 2013 at 11:54 am
Dakota Says:
The Walking Dead…..it doesn’t get any better than zombies! Seriously, zombies rock!
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True dat!
January 7th, 2013 at 11:55 am
Q: Was it almost like riding a bike Sunday? The last time you started a game was the Sugar Bowl.
A: “Definitely. I was down yesterday, but what made me feel good was when Khalif Barnes came up to me after the game on the plane and was like, ‘You did a great job. Got us in and out of the huddle. Sometimes you mumbled out the plays and you weren’t sure, but you jumped right back on it and were like, OK, this is the play. You had us upbeat. You were moving us, had us excited, had some energy. ‘ He said, ‘I love that.’ And he said, ‘The thing I loved the most about you,’ and I didn’t really understand it until he explained it a little more, he said, ‘When you threw that pick, you came back in the huddle and you (were like) nothing happened. OK, let’s go.’ I was amazed. It’s funny how guys look at everything about you. Everything. I remember the coach this morning, he was saying, ‘You were talking to defensive guys when they were about to go on the field, and their eyes snapped and they all paid attention to you. They were all alert when you were talking. As soon as you started talking, they were looking right at you. They didn’t even listen to the coaches, giving them details on the next series.’ That’s footsteps, and that’s a blessing that guys look up to me and have energy from me.”
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Nothing like a guy who likes to toot his own horn!
Good point Dakota!
Thanks man!
January 7th, 2013 at 11:55 am
DKnight007 Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 11:47 am
3611.John David Booty Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 10:09 am
Chiefs hire Andy Reid, great offensive mind, and are looking to bring in Monte Kiffin for DC. Thats a lot of football intelligence and experience for a team talented enough to send 5 players to the Pro Bowl this season.
San Diego is interviewing Tom Gamble for their GM position. Tom is respected in the league, and has the ability to bring some good coaching talent with him. I think he’s done a real good job with the 9ers personnel and helping them build a solid team. We’ll see what happens there, but SD is looking to improve from what theyve been doing.
Broncos are in the playoffs, won the division, enough said.
Oakland Raiders. We dont have an O-line coach or an OC, two EXTREMELY important aspects of a staff, and would also be a huge advantage to us in the Senior Bowl coming up. We also have no Special Teams coach. Yet, we dont even hear a single word about potential candidates.
Whats going on Raiders? Im not impressed with what Im seeing so far this offseason. As horribly as they handled 2012, you would think theyd be hard at work trying to improve this staff, but we dont even hear a peep, while the other teams in our division are actively at work.
I need to hear something, anything regarding a plan to improve the coaching staff for next season.
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Agreed. This is becoming troubling…
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Hope we hear some news this week…we can’t wait till the last minute and sort through the bargin bin…get in the game now!
January 7th, 2013 at 11:57 am
21.Dakota Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 11:55 am
Q: Was it almost like riding a bike Sunday? The last time you started a game was the Sugar Bowl.
A: “Definitely. I was down yesterday, but what made me feel good was when Khalif Barnes came up to me after the game on the plane and was like, ‘You did a great job. Got us in and out of the huddle. Sometimes you mumbled out the plays and you weren’t sure, but you jumped right back on it and were like, OK, this is the play. You had us upbeat. You were moving us, had us excited, had some energy. ‘ He said, ‘I love that.’ And he said, ‘The thing I loved the most about you,’ and I didn’t really understand it until he explained it a little more, he said, ‘When you threw that pick, you came back in the huddle and you (were like) nothing happened. OK, let’s go.’ I was amazed. It’s funny how guys look at everything about you. Everything. I remember the coach this morning, he was saying, ‘You were talking to defensive guys when they were about to go on the field, and their eyes snapped and they all paid attention to you. They were all alert when you were talking. As soon as you started talking, they were looking right at you. They didn’t even listen to the coaches, giving them details on the next series.’ That’s footsteps, and that’s a blessing that guys look up to me and have energy from me.”
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Nothing like a guy who likes to toot his own horn!
Good point Dakota!
Thanks man!
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I agree with the Judge, this interview didn’t really sit right with me.
January 7th, 2013 at 11:58 am
Just seen something disturbing…What if John De Filipo becomes OC?
Also, Huff, Walter Payton Man of the Year Award
January 7th, 2013 at 11:59 am
Q: Might be your coordinator coming up?
Pryor: “That’s maybe what he was hinting at. I don’t know.”
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Norvell for OC 2013 baby!
January 7th, 2013 at 11:59 am
hwnrdr Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 11:58 am
Just seen something disturbing…What if John De Filipo becomes OC?
Also, Huff, Walter Payton Man of the Year Award
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Huff?
What is that award about?
January 7th, 2013 at 12:00 pm
DMAC Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 11:59 am
hwnrdr Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 11:58 am
Just seen something disturbing…What if John De Filipo becomes OC?
Also, Huff, Walter Payton Man of the Year Award
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Huff?
What is that award about?
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Being giving to your opponents?
January 7th, 2013 at 12:00 pm
Cork, thanks for the interview.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:01 pm
K. Barnes: “Sometimes you mumbled out the plays and you weren’t sure, but you jumped right back on it and were like, OK, this is the play.”
Oh, no. Do you hear what I hear? Encouragement from a teammate, yes, but why should a lineman have to say this kind of thing to a guy competing for a qb spot on a pro team?
How the heck long has TP had to learn the plays, at least to learn the nomenclature? And why would he mumble? Is this just how bad it is with TP?
That’s akin to telling a guy after his first start as a qb on his home field, “Hey, good job; we could actually hear you at the line.”
Oh, brother, I think it’s bad.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:01 pm
Thec
What up brother?!
Happy new year
January 7th, 2013 at 12:01 pm
TP seems like a loyal guy, You do him right and he will reciprocate.
If TP ever did become a legit QB you would think that when his contract expired he wouldn’t try and pull a Jamarcus and would resign with the Raiders for fair market value.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:03 pm
DMAC, whats good Brother? See you survived the maya calendar…Hope all is well.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:04 pm
Dakota Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 12:00 pm
DMAC Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 11:59 am
hwnrdr Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 11:58 am
Just seen something disturbing…What if John De Filipo becomes OC?
Also, Huff, Walter Payton Man of the Year Award
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Huff?
What is that award about?
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Being giving to your opponents?
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I thought it was for jumping on your opponents and getting dragged an extra 5 yds before getting an assisted tackle.
No?
January 7th, 2013 at 12:04 pm
“Because I never experienced guys in my lap. In practice, you’re not allowed to come nowhere near me. It was just different.”
Not even in college, huh? So, this is really, really, really a raw product.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:05 pm
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 12:01 pm
TP seems like a loyal guy, You do him right and he will reciprocate.
If TP ever did become a legit QB you would think that when his contract expired he wouldn’t try and pull a Jamarcus and would resign with the Raiders for fair market value.
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He and BRL are diametrically opposite in ALL facets of life.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:05 pm
Thec Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 12:03 pm
DMAC, whats good Brother? See you survived the maya calendar…Hope all is well.
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Still workin and smokin strong
January 7th, 2013 at 12:06 pm
“But now that I know, I’m going to have my big brother — he’s 6-5, about 350 — and I’m going to have him stand right in front of me and I’m just going to throw. Throw seam balls, 30 yards, so I can’t miss it.”
I like the kid, but….it took him until his first start to understand that in the pros he has to deal with guys in his face? It had to happen for him to understand that? I mean, he couldn’t have seen this and had his brother do this little drill before now?
Is this naivetee or lack of….you know….
January 7th, 2013 at 12:07 pm
DMAC Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 12:05 pm
Thec Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 12:03 pm
DMAC, whats good Brother? See you survived the maya calendar…Hope all is well.
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Still workin and smokin strong
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I hope the workin includes makin beats…
January 7th, 2013 at 12:08 pm
I’m kind of done w/ Huffy, because of his inconsistent play.
It will be interesting to see what his future is w/ the silver and black.
Will he be back? and if so will he be playing corner or safety?
January 7th, 2013 at 12:08 pm
shutdown Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 12:06 pm
“But now that I know, I’m going to have my big brother — he’s 6-5, about 350 — and I’m going to have him stand right in front of me and I’m just going to throw. Throw seam balls, 30 yards, so I can’t miss it.”
I like the kid, but….it took him until his first start to understand that in the pros he has to deal with guys in his face? It had to happen for him to understand that? I mean, he couldn’t have seen this and had his brother do this little drill before now?
Is this naivetee or lack of….you know….
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Give the kid a break….you know, he has been practicing against the RAIDERS’ defense…..he had no idea what a real defense looked like!
January 7th, 2013 at 12:09 pm
Thec Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 12:07 pm
DMAC Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 12:05 pm
Thec Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 12:03 pm
DMAC, whats good Brother? See you survived the maya calendar…Hope all is well.
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Still workin and smokin strong
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I hope the workin includes makin beats…
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Yeah I have, but my studio is in my garage and it be colder than a hookers heart in there.
lol
January 7th, 2013 at 12:09 pm
You guys picking apart everything TP says is just pathetic.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:09 pm
DMAC Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 12:08 pm
I’m kind of done w/ Huffy, because of his inconsistent play.
It will be interesting to see what his future is w/ the silver and black.
Will he be back? and if so will he be playing corner or safety?
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You Semi’s responsible for the Cb’s and S’s have at it.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:10 pm
Yeah I have, but my studio is in my garage and it be colder than a hookers heart in there.
lol
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Everyone has a price…lol
January 7th, 2013 at 12:11 pm
Is this naivetee or lack of….you know….
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No I dont know. please explain.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:12 pm
Merry new year and stuff!
January 7th, 2013 at 12:13 pm
Isnt there teams tha run very limited playbooks. Just perfect sets of plays?
January 7th, 2013 at 12:13 pm
DMAC Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 12:08 pm
I’m kind of done w/ Huffy, because of his inconsistent play.
It will be interesting to see what his future is w/ the silver and black.
Will he be back? and if so will he be playing corner or safety?
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Huff at corner is a disaster. He’s ok as a rotational FS at best going forward. As a former #7 overall draft pick, he has to be considered a bust. But on the Raiders scale of draft busts, he’s an average pick.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:13 pm
Name your surprise off-season cut?
I’m going w/ ………
January 7th, 2013 at 12:14 pm
guest123 Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 12:13 pm
DMAC Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 12:08 pm
I’m kind of done w/ Huffy, because of his inconsistent play.
It will be interesting to see what his future is w/ the silver and black.
Will he be back? and if so will he be playing corner or safety?
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Huff at corner is a disaster. He’s ok as a rotational FS at best going forward. As a former #7 overall draft pick, he has to be considered a bust. But on the Raiders scale of draft busts, he’s an average pick.
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I agree
January 7th, 2013 at 12:15 pm
DMAC Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 12:13 pm
Name your surprise off-season cut?
I’m going w/ ………
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DMAC…lol
January 7th, 2013 at 12:16 pm
Dakota Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 12:08 pm
shutdown Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 12:06 pm
“But now that I know, I’m going to have my big brother — he’s 6-5, about 350 — and I’m going to have him stand right in front of me and I’m just going to throw. Throw seam balls, 30 yards, so I can’t miss it.”
I like the kid, but….it took him until his first start to understand that in the pros he has to deal with guys in his face? It had to happen for him to understand that? I mean, he couldn’t have seen this and had his brother do this little drill before now?
Is this naivetee or lack of….you know….
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Give the kid a break….you know, he has been practicing against the RAIDERS’ defense…..he had no idea what a real defense looked like!
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@Dakota-exactly
January 7th, 2013 at 12:17 pm
I think it should be mandatory for all middle-schoolers to have to go to a Django-Lincoln double feature…..very educational!
January 7th, 2013 at 12:18 pm
barnes said olinewas excited….that is missing…
January 7th, 2013 at 12:18 pm
Thec Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 12:15 pm
DMAC Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 12:13 pm
Name your surprise off-season cut?
I’m going w/ ………
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DMAC…lol
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I gave that a serious thought, but I think its best to keep him around and have him give us at least 12 beastly games to try to earn a new nice contract.
I’m going w/ Brisiel
January 7th, 2013 at 12:19 pm
Just confirms that he is YEARS behind in development to all the young QBs in the legue that will mop the floor against him, were he to start.
Which he won’t.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:19 pm
gonna go 16-0 next year and win the superbowl once we get an offense made for just for pryor. thats why he didn’t throw for 500 yards and 5 TDs against SD. its cuz the offense wasn’t made for him. once we make an O for pryor he’ll throw for 6ooo yards, rush for 1000 and throw 55 tds. wave of the future is the pistol O. teams will never figure it out. wave of the future
January 7th, 2013 at 12:20 pm
reid is going to have the chefs much better…DA…ehhh not so much.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:20 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 12:12 pm
Merry new year and stuff!
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Have you read Patrick O’Brian’s Aubrey and Maturin series yet?
January 7th, 2013 at 12:20 pm
Reggie mumbles mckenzie and DA r killing us they have us going in a downward spiral and I’m starting to wonder if they can pull us out DA is clearly in over his head we should have fired him a week ago he did nothing to warrant keeping his job as for mumbles I haunt been impressed with him since he got here we should try to interview and hire bill polian mumbles and DA just seem like idiot I’m afraid as long as the two of them r here we r FCKED
January 7th, 2013 at 12:21 pm
Huff willing to move around and help the team however coaches ask is something the new regime will respect. Remember he can blitz well too, if utilized properly.
We have a salary floor. SOMEONE has to get paid. Huff will likely remain with us even at a somewhat high price.
Great ability to have a guy that can play S and CB in a pinch, even if it isn’t pro-bowl level.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:22 pm
I’m going w/ Brisiel
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I was just joking. no way i cut him, depending on value would consider a trade.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:22 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 12:20 pm
reid is going to have the chefs much better…DA…ehhh not so much.
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Oh give him another year and I am sure DA will make the Chefs better.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:22 pm
Not really a surprise, but I could see us let Lechler and DHB go, Brisiel should go. Time to cut the fat. Let go of Barnes, divorce from Seymour, get rid of TK, don’t bring back any of the CB’s back…scrap them all. Cut Ford…I’ve got my magic marker out and I’m taking some liberal markups of the Raider roster. Time to clean house. No position or player is sacred if there’s trade value too.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:22 pm
Thec Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 12:22 pm
I’m going w/ Brisiel
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I was just joking. no way i cut him, depending on value would consider a trade.
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I know you wouldn’t but, Reggie?……..
January 7th, 2013 at 12:24 pm
guest123 Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 12:22 pm
Not really a surprise, but I could see us let Lechler and DHB go, Brisiel should go. Time to cut the fat. Let go of Barnes, divorce from Seymour, get rid of TK, don’t bring back any of the CB’s back…scrap them all. Cut Ford…I’ve got my magic marker out and I’m taking some liberal markups of the Raider roster. Time to clean house. No position or player is sacred if there’s trade value too.
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I agree, but I would bring back Hanson to cover slot receivers and give Spencer another shot.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:24 pm
McNabb >>>> Andy Reid
Reid 5-11 the season before McNabb shows up.
Reid wins a lot with McNabb.
Reid 22-26 after McNabb leaves.
Simple.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:24 pm
guest123 Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 12:22 pm
Not really a surprise, but I could see us let Lechler and DHB go, Brisiel should go. Time to cut the fat. Let go of Barnes, divorce from Seymour, get rid of TK, don’t bring back any of the CB’s back…scrap them all. Cut Ford…I’ve got my magic marker out and I’m taking some liberal markups of the Raider roster. Time to clean house. No position or player is sacred if there’s trade value too.
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this post reminded me of how I felt the last 18 weeks.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:24 pm
Anyone taking advice from Queef Barnes needs to self-evaluate.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:26 pm
I would bring JFORD back and let him compete for a spot.
he brings intagibles to our return game, that we miss.
I would not however, give him a free one, or a scholly.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:27 pm
lol…on second thought maybe DA will improve the chefs…losing to them 2x a year….smh man this sucks….
January 7th, 2013 at 12:27 pm
I think a few of pryor exgirlfriends post here. They do anything to not let anysone say something good about him. Bitter
January 7th, 2013 at 12:27 pm
Disapearing act…Back to the shadows…1N
January 7th, 2013 at 12:28 pm
Myopinion Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 12:27 pm
I think a few of pryor exgirlfriends post here. They do anything to not let anysone say something good about him. Bitter
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ROFLMBAO….Now i will disapear…1N
January 7th, 2013 at 12:28 pm
Pryor runs really fast for a QB.
Pryor completed 70% of his throws vs Indiana, Ohio, and Purdue.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:29 pm
Gotta run playuhs
Peace!
Go A’s!
Go Dubs!
Go Cal Bears!
Go Raiders!
January 7th, 2013 at 12:29 pm
Defillipo as OC? I heard that rumor too. Judge 37 is a big fan of him.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:30 pm
When the o-line coach gets fired immediately after a season, that’s who is blamed for Breisel’s sudden slump in Oakland.
He’ll be back and progress towards his talent mean.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:30 pm
Defillipo was in the running for the San Jose St. Job rite?
January 7th, 2013 at 12:31 pm
Myopinion Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 12:27 pm
I think a few of pryor exgirlfriends post here. They do anything to not let anysone say something good about him. Bitter
>.pryor is the wave of the future. if you don’t think so you’re racist
January 7th, 2013 at 12:31 pm
Time to let huff go he can’t tackle and doesn’t make any game changing plays for being drafted 7th overall and winning the thorpe award he has been non existend get rid of his under performing arse
January 7th, 2013 at 12:31 pm
LMAO Dakota.
Thx Bro, and get some help. lol
January 7th, 2013 at 12:32 pm
My sources tell me that as of now, Sanjay Lal is the leading candidate for the OC position. He really wants to get back to Oakland, adn DA was very impressed with how Lal handled DHB when he was here.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:32 pm
Ian85 Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 12:20 pm
Reggie mumbles mckenzie and DA r killing us they have us going in a downward spiral and I’m starting to wonder if they can pull us out DA is clearly in over his head we should have fired him a week ago he did nothing to warrant keeping his job as for mumbles I haunt been impressed with him since he got here we should try to interview and hire bill polian mumbles and DA just seem like idiot I’m afraid as long as the two of them r here we r FCKED
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Bill Polian? Pass.
Reggie and DA will be fine. Relax.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:33 pm
If Tom cable was still our HC.. and HUE JAX was our OC or even another top OC.. we would have already been deep in the playoffs by now.
Believe me.. in 2010 nobody wanted to pay a TOM CABLE LED TEAM.. that team played physical ball. Looks like what hte seattle seahawks are becoming.. yes we would have needed more talent.
but there is a reason why PETE CARROL picked up TOM CABLE right away for the title assistant HC / Motivator
January 7th, 2013 at 12:34 pm
YO YO YO THE BEEEECH DAWGS BACK N FULL EFFECT
Brahs, you’re not going to believe the HUGE party news from the weekend!
Not only did I get my nob slobbed 15 or 18 times by various wasted strippers, but I hooked up with this smokin’ hot stoner skateboard babe and yep – we’re an item
Everyone at the Ritz is going totally crazy over the news and we can’t go out in Venice without getting our picture taken and someone trying to steal my wallet
Her name is Cinnamon and she’s totally cool, kind of like a hippy Miley Cyrus meets Lisa Ann (huge fake rack). Although the Beeech Dawg had to lay down the law and demand she trim her Woodstock pubes
The Beeech Diggity don’t need to floss while he’s taming that cooter, holla
This afternoon I’m going to let her lezz out with some of my favorite strippers while I rub one out in the corner
Meaning, I’m going to pleasure my ding dong
TAKIN’ THIS JAM TO THE NEXT LEVEL
January 7th, 2013 at 12:36 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 12:33 pm
If Tom cable was still our HC.. and HUE JAX was our OC or even another top OC.. we would have already been deep in the playoffs by now.
Believe me.. in 2010 nobody wanted to pay a TOM CABLE LED TEAM.. that team played physical ball. Looks like what hte seattle seahawks are becoming.. yes we would have needed more talent.
but there is a reason why PETE CARROL picked up TOM CABLE right away for the title assistant HC / Motivator
>. cable the motivator. he’ll jawcap anybody who isn’t down with the wave of the future.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:36 pm
You guys are aware it’s bad judgement to cut a guy without someone better ready to replace him.
Right?
January 7th, 2013 at 12:37 pm
Carrol picked up Cable so he could give it to him rough on away games…. If I was rich I’d pay random midgets to punch Carrol directly in the testicles daily
January 7th, 2013 at 12:37 pm
Also if Corky gaves us two more days we could have broke 5,000 post easily.
btw Dont be mad that Tom Cable turned us into a physical team
January 7th, 2013 at 12:38 pm
reggie cuts guys without replacements all the time…hence, 4-12…
January 7th, 2013 at 12:40 pm
guys in here waxing sentimental on the good ole days of 2010 with the Cable guy and HueJacks. it reminds me of the dude who broke up the best looking girl he ever had or ever will have and still keeps pining over the good ole days when he scored 4 TD for Polk high.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:41 pm
Bring in a proven winning coach next year… Maybe Coughlin will be fired next season…
January 7th, 2013 at 12:43 pm
85.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 12:33 pm
If Tom cable was still our HC.. and HUE JAX was our OC or even another top OC.. we would have already been deep in the playoffs by now.
Believe me.. in 2010 nobody wanted to pay a TOM CABLE LED TEAM.. that team played physical ball. Looks like what hte seattle seahawks are becoming.. yes we would have needed more talent.
but there is a reason why PETE CARROL picked up TOM CABLE right away for the title assistant HC / Motivator
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Al’s last great mess up. Then he made up for it by promoting Hue as HC and then his son gets scared and tells McK to fire Hue.
Now it’s all bad.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:43 pm
wheres polk high at?…lol
January 7th, 2013 at 12:44 pm
Chicago…
January 7th, 2013 at 12:44 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 12:43 pm
wheres polk high at?…lol
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Just down the road from Polk U.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:45 pm
up the street from polk elementary?
January 7th, 2013 at 12:46 pm
Everyone wants most of the team cut because they believe they are terrible and in the next breathe they biotch because they HC doesn’t win.SMH
January 7th, 2013 at 12:46 pm
Q: You and Norv Turner?
Pryor: “I swear that he was messing with me a little bit during the game. Even before the game he was like, he gave me some praise and also said, Go out and have some fun. Cut it loose. It was weird. It was a weird connection me and him had. I don’t know.”
Q: Ever met him before?
Pryor: “No, never.”
Q: Might be your coordinator coming up?
Pryor: “That’s maybe what he was hinting at. I don’t know.”
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Wow!
January 7th, 2013 at 12:46 pm
Interesting that Polk High is brought up when Mark Davis used very good friends with Ed Oneill and Ted McGinley.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:46 pm
Howard torn labrum out at least a week
Gasol concussion out indefinitely
GOOOOOO LAKERS!
January 7th, 2013 at 12:47 pm
Lake Show = Antiques Road Show
January 7th, 2013 at 12:47 pm
Good ole’ #33 scored 3 touchdowns in one game…
January 7th, 2013 at 12:48 pm
“I wish we could have won, obviously, but it’s something to build off of.”
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I for one, am glad you didn’t…you played well enough to win, and reserved our spot at #3..which is a really nice position to be in for this draft..
January 7th, 2013 at 12:48 pm
I’m just going to come out and say it. Been to PC about it till now. Everyone keeps heaping praise on how smart and pragmatatic Reggie Mck is and how disciplined and forward thinking Dennis Allen is. But they never had Tom Cable’s or Hue Jack City’s SWAGGER.
SWAG man. That’s what it’s all about. SWAG is what leads men. SWAG is what gets the women. SWAG is the confidence that makes the oppenents gawk in awe across the field. Put doubts in their mind. SWAGGER is lost. Till we get the SWAGGER back, it aint the Raiders anymore, ya know what I’m sayin???
January 7th, 2013 at 12:49 pm
Guest for OC???????
January 7th, 2013 at 12:50 pm
I do think cable was a good motivator and the guys liked him and liked playing for him he was a X 0’s guy but that’s why it was great having hue as the OC hes def a X O guy even if the Two didn’t get along they worked well together and I have no doubt if they were still here we would have a good tough physical football team
January 7th, 2013 at 12:50 pm
I agree Guest, but I hate that dam word Swag…swag is for teenagers!
January 7th, 2013 at 12:50 pm
The Patriots got SWAG. Now even the Donkey’s got some SWAG. It’s that condescending smile they know they are just better and can’t wait to prove it. I hate that the pathetic f’n Donks got swag and we don’t.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:51 pm
My bad meant to say cable wasn’t a X O’s guy
January 7th, 2013 at 12:51 pm
Hey and say what you will about Cable but he did sweep the division!
January 7th, 2013 at 12:51 pm
Tom cable was a raider through and through. dude knocked out anybody who questioned him AND brought his mistress along on road trips for some lovin. Cable was the man
January 7th, 2013 at 12:52 pm
Cable had made this team into bullies…
January 7th, 2013 at 12:52 pm
guest123 Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 12:50 pm
The Patriots got SWAG. Now even the Donkey’s got some SWAG. It’s that condescending smile they know they are just better and can’t wait to prove it. I hate that the pathetic f’n Donks got swag and we don’t.
>. yeah but we have sharpie boy as HC and the wave of the future at QB with Pryor so the AFC west will be easy to win next year.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:53 pm
Todd Haley chiefs ex coach said 2010 Raiders team nobody wanted to play.
Tom Cable was a good HC.. with a good OC. Thats something DA has to fine. A PROVEN OC.
That way he can worry about the team/ defense. so far it wasnt good. Maybe he realized now u cant have some wack azz OC.
Its all about the OC!!!!
January 7th, 2013 at 12:53 pm
Man I really like this kid. Good Christian. It’s kinda sad he has almost no chance at being a qb in this league. Might be a great wr though.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:54 pm
Tom cable was a raider through and through. dude knocked out anybody who questioned him AND brought his mistress along on road trips for some lovin. Cable was the man
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Yup, messed that dude up bad just by kicking one leg of his chair. That takes some talent.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:54 pm
That post about swag is dead on this football team has none of it and I can’t ever picture DA finding some
January 7th, 2013 at 12:54 pm
I’m pretty sure Pryor would smack missdick silly if he met him.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:55 pm
alex7 Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 12:36 pm
You guys are aware it’s bad judgement to cut a guy without someone better ready to replace him.
Right?
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Or at least equal…They don’t have to be ‘better’ (although that would be nice)–but their production has to be replaced by someone of equal ability…Otherwise your looking at a talent drain and your team is regressing..Which we OBVIOUSLY did this year..
Which is similar to a ‘memory leak’ in computing which Ownership and Management hopes we all have when its time to renew season tix…
January 7th, 2013 at 12:56 pm
I don’t remember where I saw it, but there was a picture of Dennis Allen with a pink bow, like the kind that goes in little girls hair, and it was clipped onto the side of his visor, during breast awareness month. Now I’m all for the pink bows, but this photo made it look like he had a bow in his hair. How ef’n gey is that?
January 7th, 2013 at 12:57 pm
Did the Texans have swag? Or just a good team? Hmmm. Vikings came in with a boat-load of swag, having just defeated the Packers to get into the playoffs. But no QB. Hmmm.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:57 pm
lefty12 Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 12:46 pm
Everyone wants most of the team cut because they believe they are terrible and in the next breathe they biotch because they HC doesn’t win.SMH
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That’s because when D.Allen coaches one of the Senior Bowl squads it will be the best team he has coached in a year…
January 7th, 2013 at 12:58 pm
Boring. If I was “T.P” I would have fallen asleep being interviewed. Then there are the typical losers posting comments as if this was their special hangout with their special online “friends”. Loozahs
January 7th, 2013 at 12:58 pm
I don’t even care if we have a GAY head coach as long as the guys play for him.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:59 pm
Well said Mikie.
There is a difference though in randomly cutting a guy like Huff, or not RE-SIGNING an expensive and declining Michael Bush.
And there aren’t exactly lots of options better than Huff out on the street right now.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:59 pm
Raider fans in the stands got more swag than the team. I think the team looks up in the stands and is fearful. Raiders of the 70’s and 80’s could look the fans in the eyes. This group comes off like a bunch of metrosechuals.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:00 pm
gotta have some luck in this league.
“The Colts point differential over 16 games was at minus-30, a figure that would more commonly be associated with a 7-9 team than an 11-5 one.
The Colts ARE THE FIRST TEAM in league history to win 11 or more games with a negative point differential.”
also had the league’s easiest schedule.
- Bill Barnwell, Grantland
January 7th, 2013 at 1:02 pm
Unless RM and DA learned from their mistakes; then we have another wasted year…..And they certainly didn’t learn anything during the year
January 7th, 2013 at 1:03 pm
Joe Webb had a lot of swag. So did Philip Buchanan.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:03 pm
Dakota Says: Just down the road from Polk U.
Well, Polk U, too.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:03 pm
Waiting for the Raiders to announce anything about their current OC search is like Brad Pitt’s character in 7 asking Morgan Freeman…”WHAT’S IN THE BOX!”
January 7th, 2013 at 1:05 pm
Hwnrdr Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 1:03 pm
Waiting for the Raiders to announce anything about their current OC search is like Brad Pitt’s character in 7 asking Morgan Freeman…”WHAT’S IN THE BOX!”
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There’s nothing to announce. Reggie’s waiting on Edgar Bennett, Ben McAdoo, and/or Pat Hill.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:05 pm
Eldiabs
do you know on which day you became a mind-reader and smarter than football-employed GMs? Or was it the same day? Odd that a guy with your brilliance is blessing us in this little joint!
p.s. getting the house in financial and discipline/philosophy order was goal and achievement #1 for those guys. Adding talent now that they have draft picks and cap room is #2.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:05 pm
Great Flix HWNRDR
January 7th, 2013 at 1:05 pm
In this scene is Brad Pitt playing Dennis Allen and Morgan Freeman playing Reggie Mck?
January 7th, 2013 at 1:07 pm
106.guest123 Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 12:48 pm
I’m just going to come out and say it. Been to PC about it till now. Everyone keeps heaping praise on how smart and pragmatatic Reggie Mck is and how disciplined and forward thinking Dennis Allen is. But they never had Tom Cable’s or Hue Jack City’s SWAGGER.
SWAG man. That’s what it’s all about. SWAG is what leads men. SWAG is what gets the women. SWAG is the confidence that makes the oppenents gawk in awe across the field. Put doubts in their mind. SWAGGER is lost. Till we get the SWAGGER back, it aint the Raiders anymore, ya know what I’m sayin???
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Cable and Hue was a solid tandem and with Al getting rid of Cable, Hue was the logical choice to replace him.
The Raider team was playing with some mojo and now Davis and McK prematurely destroyed all of that by starting ALL over when it didn’t need to be.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:08 pm
the guy has some magic. he’ll be the man some day soon.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:11 pm
…Kevin Spacey as Hue Jack?
January 7th, 2013 at 1:11 pm
more proof that luck plays a role in a team’s record:
Vikings rookie kicker Blair “Walsh went 21-for-35 at Georgia during his senior year, just 60 percent. He was 2-for-5 from 50-plus yards;
this year, he’s 10-for-10.”
luck. that’ll win you some close games.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:12 pm
114.Dan78 Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 12:52 pm
Cable had made this team into bullies…
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Cable with Hue’s offense made the Raider team into bullies.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:13 pm
CABLE 28-52 AS A HEAD COACH.
Go SWAGGGGGG!
January 7th, 2013 at 1:13 pm
134.RaiderDuck Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 1:05 pm
Hwnrdr Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 1:03 pm
Waiting for the Raiders to announce anything about their current OC search is like Brad Pitt’s character in 7 asking Morgan Freeman…”WHAT’S IN THE BOX!”
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There’s nothing to announce. Reggie’s waiting on Edgar Bennett, Ben McAdoo, and/or Pat Hill.
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Source or link?
Pat Hill for OLine coach and BMcAdoo as OC?
Edgar Bennett for OC? No way!
January 7th, 2013 at 1:15 pm
this raider team us starting to remind me of the eagles team that the raidersdestroyed in the super bowl…down to the goody two shoes coach.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:15 pm
Its either Pat Hill or Aaron Kromen as next OC.. both will come from the OLINE coaching tree.
Just waiting for some contracts to expire and ATL to be done with season
January 7th, 2013 at 1:18 pm
guest123 Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 1:05 pm
In this scene is Brad Pitt playing Dennis Allen and Morgan Freeman playing Reggie Mck?
LOL
January 7th, 2013 at 1:22 pm
Pat Hill as OL coach yes…but NO as OC.
I would accept Kromer as OC, however he doesn’t have heavy playcalling experience though and that worries me a bit.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:22 pm
I drive the Tom cable bandwagon. Seymour Bush rides shotgun
Everyone else make sure you are not a newcomer and climb aboard
January 7th, 2013 at 1:24 pm
Kevin Spacey for OC
January 7th, 2013 at 1:24 pm
Plunketthead Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 1:22 pm
I drive the Tom cable bandwagon. Seymour Bush rides shotgun
Everyone else make sure you are not a newcomer and climb aboard
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Is there much more room on the short bus?
January 7th, 2013 at 1:26 pm
Wow Dakota
Not very nice. Play nice dammit!!
January 7th, 2013 at 1:27 pm
That IS me playing nice.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:28 pm
Word!
Anyone on Bamas team we should keep an eye on tonight?
January 7th, 2013 at 1:29 pm
Any chance we pick up Teo and later one of his D linemen to go with him?
January 7th, 2013 at 1:31 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 1:15 pm
Its either Pat Hill or Aaron Kromen as next OC.. both will come from the OLINE coaching tree.
Just waiting for some contracts to expire and ATL to be done with season
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I like Pat Hill a lot. Very good coach, always pushes his players and gets the most out of them. Great O-line coach, but even more impressed with how he turned around Fresno State. Forget O-line, Pat Hill would actually be an upgrade over Dennis Allen for head coach.
Reggie’s gut was dead wrong.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:31 pm
Jesse Williams DT and Dee Milliner CB
If we trade down….
January 7th, 2013 at 1:33 pm
pat hill is a no nonsense oline coach…but a horrible play caller…oline yes oc no…
January 7th, 2013 at 1:33 pm
January 7th, 2013 at 1:31 pm
Jesse Williams DT and Dee Milliner CB
If we trade down….
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Too logical nevermind!
January 7th, 2013 at 1:35 pm
Tom Cable sucked! So does zoneblocking,so does Reggie,so does Denise.Fk this.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:35 pm
if it is pat hill…straight up smash mouth ball…none of this knapp/da vanilla stuff…
January 7th, 2013 at 1:36 pm
Pete Carmichael is interesting choice for OC
January 7th, 2013 at 1:36 pm
January 7th, 2013 at 1:24 pm
Plunketthead Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 1:22 pm
I drive the Tom cable bandwagon. Seymour Bush rides shotgun
Everyone else make sure you are not a newcomer and climb aboard
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Is there much more room on the short bus?
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I will kick McFadden off if you want a seat
January 7th, 2013 at 1:36 pm
Good hire D.A.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:37 pm
Plunketthead Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 1:36 pm
January 7th, 2013 at 1:24 pm
Plunketthead Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 1:22 pm
I drive the Tom cable bandwagon. Seymour Bush rides shotgun
Everyone else make sure you are not a newcomer and climb aboard
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Is there much more room on the short bus?
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I will kick McFadden off if you want a seat
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That is low….leave the kids out of this!
January 7th, 2013 at 1:37 pm
164.mcfadden20. Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 1:36 pm
Good hire D.A.
Playoffs? JEEEEEZ
January 7th, 2013 at 1:38 pm
The other possibility is Reggie wanting Pete Carmichael (whose Saints contract is expired), but having to wait until Carmichael knows he’s not getting a head coaching position.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:38 pm
Tell us how you really feel Oakfo!!
Don’t hold back now.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:38 pm
That dumb mofo wont work anyway. All he does is talk about how tired his dawgs are. Too bad he quit juicing
January 7th, 2013 at 1:39 pm
If we give Brandon Myers a big contract, I will lose all faith in Reggie.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:39 pm
Better be nice. I am thinking about rooting for the golden homers over Saban
January 7th, 2013 at 1:40 pm
other teams using al davis interviewing strategy to get intel…
January 7th, 2013 at 1:40 pm
158.Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 1:33 pm
pat hill is a no nonsense oline coach…but a horrible play caller…oline yes oc no…
^^^^^^^
Exactly. There is now way Pat Hill will be considered as an OC here. OL coach yes….play caller? No.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:40 pm
Bring back Charles Woodson at free safety. Rod Woodson 2002 2.0.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:40 pm
Jesusraiderjim Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 1:29 pm
Any chance we pick up Teo and later one of his D linemen to go with him?
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I say draft Star #3 and sign Rey Maualuga to be our new MLB.
If we cant sign Rey, draft Jon Bostic LB from FLA in the 3rd.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:41 pm
I’m definitely rooting for ND to beat Bame tonight.
Tired of SEC teams.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:41 pm
DKnight007 Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 1:40 pm
158.Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 1:33 pm
pat hill is a no nonsense oline coach…but a horrible play caller…oline yes oc no…
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Exactly. There is now way Pat Hill will be considered as an OC here. OL coach yes….play caller? No.
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You do realize that Al seriously considered hiring Hill as HC more than once?
January 7th, 2013 at 1:41 pm
Reggie’s house smells like chittlens.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:42 pm
WOW draft is like 4 months away, hopefully we bring in an exciting OC that we can talk about and be happy about
January 7th, 2013 at 1:42 pm
40.Dakota Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 12:08 pm
shutdown Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 12:06 pm
“But now that I know, I’m going to have my big brother — he’s 6-5, about 350 — and I’m going to have him stand right in front of me and I’m just going to throw. Throw seam balls, 30 yards, so I can’t miss it.”
I like the kid, but….it took him until his first start to understand that in the pros he has to deal with guys in his face? It had to happen for him to understand that? I mean, he couldn’t have seen this and had his brother do this little drill before now?
Is this naivetee or lack of….you know….
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Give the kid a break….you know, he has been practicing against the RAIDERS’ defense…..he had no idea what a real defense looked like!
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I say sign his brother…6-5 350???…F-it…try him at NT….
January 7th, 2013 at 1:42 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 1:41 pm
DKnight007 Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 1:40 pm
158.Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 1:33 pm
pat hill is a no nonsense oline coach…but a horrible play caller…oline yes oc no…
^^^^^^^
Exactly. There is now way Pat Hill will be considered as an OC here. OL coach yes….play caller? No.
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You do realize that Al seriously considered hiring Hill as HC more than once?
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If Al thought it would be a good move, then we should not hire him.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:43 pm
169.Plunketthead Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 1:38 pm
That dumb mofo wont work anyway. All he does is talk about how tired his dawgs are. Too bad he quit juicing
^^^^^^^
Who is this?
January 7th, 2013 at 1:43 pm
Yo Homies, just got my regular seat at Olive Garden and the Taste of Tuscany is on the way
You know it’ll be FartCity USA in about 10 mins
After me and my girl Cinnamon finish up here we’ll probably head down to the beach to score some mad weed
My babe can usually score the chronic from the busboys at James Beach.
Then we’ll probably just skateboard around town until one of us passes out
WRECKS N EFFECT COMIN ATCHU LIVE
January 7th, 2013 at 1:44 pm
yup Pete is interviewing for head coaching jobs, once he learns his fate then he will decide wether he wants to come back to New orleans or go to another team as OC
January 7th, 2013 at 1:44 pm
guest123 Says:
In this scene is Brad Pitt playing Dennis Allen and Morgan Freeman playing Reggie Mck?
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There are some here who want one or the other to be ‘What’s In The Box’.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:45 pm
did al interview him? no…he thought better of it…
January 7th, 2013 at 1:45 pm
“You guys picking apart everything TP says is just pathetic.’
No, not “picking.” Just kind of struck by his…umm, looking for the right word…child-like comments. Not his grammar, mind you. I am never struck by an NFL player’s grammar (unless it’s excellent, that is), but rather by his surprise at what he experienced (guys “in his lap”) and by his awe that he was able to be understood in the huddle (at times, although not always at first), and at what seems his firm belief (because he got some compliments) that leadership is a great deal about cheerleading and animation.
It’s what his comments might suggest about his preparedness that concern me.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:46 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 1:44 pm
guest123 Says:
In this scene is Brad Pitt playing Dennis Allen and Morgan Freeman playing Reggie Mck?
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There are some here who want one or the other to be ‘What’s In The Box’.
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Think we’re going to need a bigger box!
January 7th, 2013 at 1:47 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 1:41 pm
DKnight007 Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 1:40 pm
158.Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 1:33 pm
pat hill is a no nonsense oline coach…but a horrible play caller…oline yes oc no…
^^^^^^^
Exactly. There is now way Pat Hill will be considered as an OC here. OL coach yes….play caller? No.
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You do realize that Al seriously considered hiring Hill as HC more than once?
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Yeah, I think Pat Hill would be a good HC. Id like him over Dennis Allen. Hes an amazing o-line coach, as well. But I dont think anyone would consider him for OC. Thats not his bag. In fact, I thought the original post was proposing Hill for O-line coach and Kromer for OC. Not sold on Kromer for OC, but I believe in Pat Hill as a coach, major. Just not as an OC. O-line and HC, bring him on.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:48 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 1:45 pm
did al interview him? no…he thought better of it…
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I honestly don’t know if Al ever interviewed him or not. I know for a fact his name was connected with ours more than once in the mid-2000s.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:48 pm
hill is old school…could help.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:48 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 1:40 pm
other teams using al davis interviewing strategy to get intel…
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/07/teams-grumbling-over-breadth-of-bears-eagles-coaching-searches/
January 7th, 2013 at 1:50 pm
U guys wants Rey Malugua as MLB lmao.. U think McClain was bad?
Rey cant play the run and gets fooled on every pass. Cant get off blocks for anything
January 7th, 2013 at 1:53 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 1:42 pm
WOW draft is like 4 months away, hopefully we bring in an exciting OC that we can talk about and be happy about
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Its integral. A bad OC hire will determine the fate of our season before it even starts. Just like 2012. If Reggie and Dennis blow it again, its gonna be a long offseason waiting for the draft.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:53 pm
“Is this naivetee or lack of….you know….”
Is it a lack of experience (hard to buy that since he qb-ed at a major football factory), or a lack of observational skills (again, played major college ball at major football school, has been through 2 pro camps, has been able to watch pros for two years, has been able to sit in on qb meetings, film break-down, get special coaching, etc.) or immaturity (in that the immature often don’t have keen observational skills that are coupled with the ability to process/connect the relationship between what they see and their own experience. Some of these, all of these, none of these?
Is he dull?
January 7th, 2013 at 1:56 pm
The Lakers should trade Dwight to the Mavs for Dirk.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:57 pm
Dakota Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 1:56 pm
The Lakers should trade Dwight to the Mavs for Dirk.
LOL…ok
January 7th, 2013 at 1:59 pm
This year i will not blindly follow Raiders and drink kool-aid just cuz i’m a fan, i want the Raiders to hire interesting OC that will give me some faith in the upcoming season, oh i will still be a fan but i would not blindly set expectations really high only to be disappointed, i would not give idiots like G knapp a few weeks to prove me wrong and everyone else, i will call everything out, i will not hold an agenda like M1st1c and would defend and criticize every player.
January 7th, 2013 at 2:01 pm
Lakers are disappointing this year.. Gasol and Howard won’t be available for some time, thank god, they really needed some fresh faces at those positions, I’m kinda getting tired of Gasol, he’s a weak link on D, can’t have 2 bad D guys on the floor at same time
January 7th, 2013 at 2:01 pm
hwnrdr Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 1:57 pm
Dakota Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 1:56 pm
The Lakers should trade Dwight to the Mavs for Dirk.
LOL…ok
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Dwight doesn’t have “it”. Get Dirk and that young PG and move on.
January 7th, 2013 at 2:02 pm
tired of D-howard only showing up when ever he can, hopefully they let him sit out couple of weeks to rest his back and think about stuff, Gasol needs to sit out 2-3 games
January 7th, 2013 at 2:04 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 2:01 pm
Lakers are disappointing this year.. Gasol and Howard won’t be available for some time, thank god, they really needed some fresh faces at those positions, I’m kinda getting tired of Gasol, he’s a weak link on D, can’t have 2 bad D guys on the floor at same time
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Gasol isn’t great on D, but Kobe has all but given up on playing D. He is horrible on pick and rolls, doesn’t even try when there is a switch. Just bad. Hard to watch.
January 7th, 2013 at 2:05 pm
Kobe just trys to play the passing lanes for steals….his guy is constantly wide open for jump shots…..Kobe Kobe Kobe
smh
January 7th, 2013 at 2:05 pm
yes Kobe is also another guy who doesn’t want to expand his energy on the D side, maybe they should cut his minutes in half and rest him more
January 7th, 2013 at 2:05 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 1:50 pm
U guys wants Rey Malugua as MLB lmao.. U think McClain was bad?
Rey cant play the run and gets fooled on every pass. Cant get off blocks for anything
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I would have agreed with this assessment one season ago, but I saw a lot of improvement out of Rey in 2012, in the very same areas you mentioned. He put in work in the offseason, and it resulted in his best year yet. He played much more disciplined, and I expect that to continue next season. Hes also recognized as the emotional leader for the Bengals defense, which was a very strong unit this year. I think Rey is just the type of player we need right about now. Hes still young (just 25) and is just now hitting his stride.
January 7th, 2013 at 2:06 pm
What was wrong with the interim coach? who ever it was, seemed like Lakers were playing with more energy n also playing better D
January 7th, 2013 at 2:08 pm
poprox13 Says:
Think we’re going to need a bigger box!
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Hah!
January 7th, 2013 at 2:08 pm
time for some green
January 7th, 2013 at 2:08 pm
Sh!t, did I accidentally log onto a basketball blog?
January 7th, 2013 at 2:10 pm
Dudes, total Beeech Bummer!
Just found out from my new girlfriend Cinnamon that she smoked blunts with Justin Beeber last week and then they played some tonsil hockey
Not that we were a couple last week – and I’ve cheated on her 15-18 times since we started dating yesterday – but that’s totally wack, huh
Can’t imagine her tonguing the Beeeech Lawg with the same tongue that tongued Beiber’s tongue
UN-SILLY FRESH
January 7th, 2013 at 2:11 pm
So….who will it be???? Tick tick tick tick…(in the words of Chris Berman)
January 7th, 2013 at 2:13 pm
DKnight
Dmac
January 7th, 2013 at 2:13 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 2:06 pm
What was wrong with the interim coach? who ever it was, seemed like Lakers were playing with more energy n also playing better D
++++++++
Bernie!
Well, Jimmy Buss didn’t want Phil back…that was the end of our chances to win a title with Kobe. He chose a HC with a gimmick offense that is based around our 39 year old PG and ignores Dwight Howard and Pau Gasol in the post. Every time Gasol launches a 3 I want to punch Jim Buss Jr in the face.
Phil would have rsn the ball through Howard and Gasol in the post, and yes Nash would have been turned into a spot-up 3 point shooting PG, but so what? Anyone think Nash couldn’t hit more threes than Fisher?
Phil also would have taken advantage of using Meeks at the PG spot, and Hill and Jamison would have thrived off the bench playing PF and SF respectively.
Oh, and Phil can get teams to play defense too.
Jezuz what a mistake.
FU JIMMY BUSS!
January 7th, 2013 at 2:18 pm
pryor should get a fair shot at the starting position next summer,or at least an expanded role in the offense.
January 7th, 2013 at 2:19 pm
Pryor certainly says all the right things.
January 7th, 2013 at 2:19 pm
FU JIMMY BUSS!
AGREED!
January 7th, 2013 at 2:20 pm
gangosix Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 2:18 pm
pryor should get a fair shot at the starting position next summer,or at least an expanded role in the offense.
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LMAO fair shot? Maybe for a CFL team.
Start working on your hands Pryor….it is your only chance to actually play on Sundays in any meaningful way.
January 7th, 2013 at 2:20 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 1:15 pm
this raider team us starting to remind me of the eagles team that the raidersdestroyed in the super bowl…down to the goody two shoes coach.
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u mean dick vermeil, the coach who went to 2 super bowls and won one. and was 2-time nfl coach of the year?
it amazes me what’s important to u guys. super bowls? nah. he needs to be “tough”.
January 7th, 2013 at 2:21 pm
John David Booty Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 1:40 pm
Jesusraiderjim Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 1:29 pm
Any chance we pick up Teo and later one of his D linemen to go with him?
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I say draft Star #3 and sign Rey Maualuga to be our new MLB.
If we cant sign Rey, draft Jon Bostic LB from FLA in the
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I want Star also. Huge UTES fan, I like what he brings to the table. It could also help us down the road when all his cousins and homeboys want to become RAIDERS
January 7th, 2013 at 2:22 pm
The Beeech Diggity Dawg Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 2:10 pm
Dudes, total Beeech Bummer!
Just found out from my new girlfriend Cinnamon that she smoked blunts with Justin Beeber last week and then they played some tonsil hockey
Not that we were a couple last week – and I’ve cheated on her 15-18 times since we started dating yesterday – but that’s totally wack, huh
Can’t imagine her tonguing the Beeeech Lawg with the same tongue that tongued Beiber’s tongue
UN-SILLY FRESH
**********
actually pretty sure u would get excited about it.
January 7th, 2013 at 2:22 pm
Krazy KrappyRat Kell finally up from his mid-afternoon nap
Make sure you pop a Lean Cuisine in the microwave so you won’t get surly, Old Troll
Just keepin’ it real
THE BEEECH DIGGS
January 7th, 2013 at 2:23 pm
218…whats important to me is thst the one he lost he lost to the tough raiders team…
January 7th, 2013 at 2:23 pm
Shutdown Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 1:53 pm
“Is this naivetee or lack of….you know….”
Is it a lack of experience (hard to buy that since he qb-ed at a major football factory), or a lack of observational skills (again, played major college ball at major football school, has been through 2 pro camps, has been able to watch pros for two years, has been able to sit in on qb meetings, film break-down, get special coaching, etc.) or immaturity (in that the immature often don’t have keen observational skills that are coupled with the ability to process/connect the relationship between what they see and their own experience. Some of these, all of these, none of these?
Is he dull?
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3 touchdowns.
in a Greg Knapp offense.
not dull at all – so hoping this dude shuts up the haters next season
as RGIII did and R.Wilson …. sometimes determination does a lot.
January 7th, 2013 at 2:23 pm
fu@k. did i just respond to that idiot and give his life meaning? sorry guys. we were doing so much better when he wasn’t here and ignoring him since he got back. dang it. now he thinks he has purpose.
January 7th, 2013 at 2:23 pm
Jesusraiderjim Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 2:21 pm
John David Booty Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 1:40 pm
Jesusraiderjim Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 1:29 pm
Any chance we pick up Teo and later one of his D linemen to go with him?
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I say draft Star #3 and sign Rey Maualuga to be our new MLB.
If we cant sign Rey, draft Jon Bostic LB from FLA in the
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I want Star also. Huge UTES fan, I like what he brings to the table. It could also help us down the road when all his cousins and homeboys want to become RAIDERS
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Agreed.
January 7th, 2013 at 2:24 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 2:23 pm
218…whats important to me is thst the one he lost he lost to the tough raiders team…
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yeah but he was a great coach. and if allen ends up being as good, it will be great for the raiders.
January 7th, 2013 at 2:25 pm
Poprox13 Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 2:08 pm
Sh!t, did I accidentally log onto a basketball blog?
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no LAKERS ARE GARBAGE THIS YEAR, and Warriors and Clips are on top of the division…and im loving EVERY SECOND OF IT. Laker fans are EXTINCT on this blog this year.
January 7th, 2013 at 2:25 pm
and i WISH our team was as good as the one featuring ron jaworski, wilbur montgomery, and harold carmichael.
January 7th, 2013 at 2:26 pm
Dr_robert Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 2:24 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 2:23 pm
218…whats important to me is thst the one he lost he lost to the tough raiders team…
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yeah but he was a great coach. and if allen ends up being as good, it will be great for the raiders.
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They better resurrect Palmer, get Joeckel and build that defense….
January 7th, 2013 at 2:27 pm
3 touchdowns.
in a Greg Knapp offense.
not dull at all – so hoping this dude shuts up the haters next season
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RaiderSam, plus he converted 53% of 3rd downs.
Palmer converted 35%
January 7th, 2013 at 2:27 pm
Awesome! My favorite minion of 2012 Nob Bust! Or at least top 25
Nerd, I hope you’ve got your sights set on retaining that Blog Punching Bag Belt this year
My Blog Brahs and I are still enjoying all those legendary MELTDOWNS, totally hilarious stuff
WRECKS N FULL EFFECT
PMPP SHOUT OUT, HOLLA BACK
January 7th, 2013 at 2:29 pm
RaiderSam Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 2:25 pm
Poprox13 Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 2:08 pm
Sh!t, did I accidentally log onto a basketball blog?
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no LAKERS ARE GARBAGE THIS YEAR, and Warriors and Clips are on top of the division…and im loving EVERY SECOND OF IT. Laker fans are EXTINCT on this blog this year.
Ummm, no, but I rarely talk Lakers here…
January 7th, 2013 at 2:30 pm
Yo, Beeech! Whadup?
January 7th, 2013 at 2:30 pm
All year, the Raiders couldn’t run the ball,
Couldn’t convert 3rd downs,
Couldn’t score TD’s in the Red Zone.
Enter Pryor and voila!
January 7th, 2013 at 2:30 pm
guys play “in a meaningful way on sundays” all the time with running plays,option plays,even qb sneaks,pryor is better than palmer in all three catergories,and could also be useful in the redzone,its supposed to be td’s not fg’s
January 7th, 2013 at 2:30 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 2:27 pm
3 touchdowns.
in a Greg Knapp offense.
not dull at all – so hoping this dude shuts up the haters next season
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RaiderSam, plus he converted 53% of 3rd downs.
Palmer converted 35%
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Just one game, but its something to work with. Lets see if Palmer steps his game up ad keeps mentoring him.
January 7th, 2013 at 2:31 pm
Does anyone have any news on the Coordinator front?
Bills and Chiefs hiring HCs are gonna be looking for coordinators too. Are we keeping up or does Reggie have some cards up his sleeve?
January 7th, 2013 at 2:31 pm
Yo Brahs, I seriously recommend you all run out to Living Spaces ASAP and buy a bean bag
I’ll be dropping some hella dope lyrics from my upcoming hip hop album Wrecks N Effect, and you’ll need a comfy place to make out with your babe
It’s a love song dedicated to my new girlfriend Cinnamon
Legendary stuff, like that one jam Seal wrote for Heidi Klum all about how tasty her cooter tastes
January 7th, 2013 at 2:31 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 2:27 pm
3 touchdowns.
in a Greg Knapp offense.
not dull at all – so hoping this dude shuts up the haters next season
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RaiderSam, plus he converted 53% of 3rd downs.
Palmer converted 35%
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I thought you weren’t impressed with TP?
January 7th, 2013 at 2:33 pm
Just one game, but its something to work with. Lets see if Palmer steps his game up ad keeps mentoring him.
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From the sounds of things, Palmer was the ONLY one who gave him the time of day.
January 7th, 2013 at 2:34 pm
Well I just saw Reggie at lunch today at Sizzler (love that salad bar) and he said to be patient. Will make a move soon.
Wanted me to let you allknow.
Your welcome.
Anymore stupid questions that NO One on this blog has any earthly idea what the answer is feel free to ask? Stupid
January 7th, 2013 at 2:34 pm
Raidertalk Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 2:31 pm
Does anyone have any news on the Coordinator front?
Bills and Chiefs hiring HCs are gonna be looking for coordinators too. Are we keeping up or does Reggie have some cards up his sleeve?
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The OC search is in full Wait Mode until:
1) Norv Turner and Pete Carmichael know they won’t be head coaches anywhere this year, and/or
2) Pat Hill, Edgar Bennett and/or Brian McAdoo being finished with their playoff obligations.
January 7th, 2013 at 2:35 pm
long as palmer dont show him how to scramble
January 7th, 2013 at 2:35 pm
Pryor is the best player on the team, and they don’t use him.
Dennis Allen is an idiot.
January 7th, 2013 at 2:36 pm
Scourge Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 2:30 pm
Yo, Beeech! Whadup?
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Yo Homie, getting hella baked with my new girlfriend Cinnamon and getting ready to watch her lezz out with some of my stripper friends
Got a case of the Mondays
January 7th, 2013 at 2:37 pm
same goes for Reece
January 7th, 2013 at 2:37 pm
jesusraiderjim Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 2:34 pm
Anymore stupid questions that NO One on this blog has any earthly idea what the answer is feel free to ask? Stupid
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Why is air?
January 7th, 2013 at 2:39 pm
Pryor is better than Aaron Rodgers already.raiders will sweep the west next year.wave of the future
January 7th, 2013 at 2:40 pm
Just roll up your sleeves and evaluate every aspect of the question and you will have your answer Scourge.
Look at everything, move forward and underutilize all your talent and there you have it.
January 7th, 2013 at 2:43 pm
January 7th, 2013 at 2:45 pm
Personally I thought it was a little funnier than that, not Dakota talking to himself funny, but funny none the less.
January 7th, 2013 at 2:47 pm
McK would hire Bennett as an OC??
No way…
January 7th, 2013 at 2:48 pm
OC search is taking really long so i gotta believe the team is waiting for the outcome of Norv and Carmichael situations
January 7th, 2013 at 2:48 pm
Hatred of ND vs hatred of the biaSEC vs hatred of the college football system. Hmmmm GO BAMA! From a distance.
January 7th, 2013 at 2:49 pm
There’s definitely something wrong with people who talk with themselves on a sports blog. There’s a name for those people….I forget what it is…..
January 7th, 2013 at 2:50 pm
Whatever, that shvt was funny as hell. Go Dakota comedy central.
January 7th, 2013 at 2:51 pm
I wish I had his talent.
January 7th, 2013 at 2:51 pm
238.The Beeech Diggity Dawg Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 2:31 pm
Legendary stuff, like that one jam Seal wrote for Heidi Klum all about how tasty her cooter tastes
^^^^^^
LOL hahahaaaaaa Nice!
January 7th, 2013 at 2:52 pm
Was Dakota the one that said when KoolKell stands up his chair does too?
January 7th, 2013 at 2:54 pm
Brahs, got some terrible Beeech Dawg news – Cinnamon and I just broke up
Caught the ho stealing from my stash, pimp slapped her, made doggy-style love one last time, and dropped her off at the Weinerschnitzel down the block
She also tried to steal my skateboard on the way out but thankfully I just had an alarm installed
Totally heartbreaking, but should help in the emotional hip hop rap song I’m about to drop
GUESS THAT’S WHY THEY CALL IT THE BLUES, DANG
January 7th, 2013 at 2:55 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
I honestly don’t know if Al ever interviewed him or not. I know for a fact his name was connected with ours more than once in the mid-2000s.
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The mid-2000s? How long I been asleep?
January 7th, 2013 at 2:56 pm
P-Man…LOL…
January 7th, 2013 at 2:57 pm
A lot of guys were in love with him…
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/07/ravens-drop-sergio-kindle-from-practice-squad/
January 7th, 2013 at 2:58 pm
Norv and Carmichael seem like they would be pretty good OCs.
Bennett, the WR coach for the Packers, I don’t know too much about.
January 7th, 2013 at 2:58 pm
He must have some lap.
January 7th, 2013 at 3:01 pm
Dan78 Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 2:57 pm
A lot of guys were in love with him…
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/07/ravens-drop-sergio-kindle-from-practice-squad/
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Reg won’t have anything to do with him, only GB practice squad guys for us
January 7th, 2013 at 3:03 pm
Reg won’t have anything to do with him, only GB practice squad guys for us
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Thats because GB practice squad guys are better than Al’s 53 man roster guys.
January 7th, 2013 at 3:04 pm
lefty12 Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 3:03 pm
Reg won’t have anything to do with him, only GB practice squad guys for us
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Thats because GB practice squad guys are better than Al’s 53 man roster guys.
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True that
January 7th, 2013 at 3:06 pm
Jesusraiderjim Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 2:34 pm
Well I just saw Reggie at lunch today at Sizzler (love that salad bar) and he said to be patient. Will make a move soon.
Wanted me to let you allknow.
Your welcome.
Anymore stupid questions that NO One on this blog has any earthly idea what the answer is feel free to ask? Stupid
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Please only speak about things that you know
January 7th, 2013 at 3:06 pm
Study: Racial stereotyping linked to creative stagnation
In an article published in Psychological Science, researchers at Tel Aviv University found that racial stereotyping and creative stagnation have something big in common: categorical thinking.
“Although these two concepts concern very different outcomes, they both occur when people fixate on existing category information and conventional mindsets,” wrote lead researcher Carmit Tadmor. As it turns out, having an essentialist mind-set about a broad category of people usually means that you’re equally narrow in all of your thinking.
As Science Daily reported:
The researchers manipulated participants’ beliefs about racial essentialism by having them read one of three articles: one that described fictitious scientific research supporting racial essentialist beliefs, one that described fictitious research supporting racial nonessentialist beliefs, or one about the scientific properties of water.
The participants then took a commonly used test of creativity called the Remote Associates Test. The participants were given three distinct words and they had to identify a single target word that linked the three words together. So, for example, given the words “manners,” “round,” and “tennis,” the correct answer would be “table.”
The researchers found that participants primed with an essentialist viewpoint were less creative, solving significantly fewer of the word problems correctly than participants in the other two groups.
Besides finding that racial bias is rooted in lazy thinking, the research also suggests that essentialist beliefs can change over time. Tadmor and colleagues believe that it might be possible to use these findings to devise an intervention program that challenges and reduces racial essentialism, helping participants overcome racial bias and potentially unlocking their creative process.
http://www.salon.com/2013/01/07/study_racial_stereotyping_linked_to_creative_stagnation/
January 7th, 2013 at 3:08 pm
269.raidertalk Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 3:06 pm
Please only speak about things that you know
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If that were the rule in here this place would be limited to discussions of fast food, fast women, and slow unemplyment lines.
January 7th, 2013 at 3:09 pm
Speculation and Deductive reasoning about possibilities may be a little beyond some
January 7th, 2013 at 3:09 pm
Mumbles and Denise r trash
January 7th, 2013 at 3:11 pm
270.KoolKell Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 3:06 pm
Study: Racial stereotyping linked to creative stagnation
Besides finding that racial bias is rooted in lazy thinking, the research also suggests that essentialist beliefs can change over time. Tadmor and colleagues believe that it might be possible to use these findings to devise an intervention program that challenges and reduces racial essentialism, helping participants overcome racial bias and potentially unlocking their creative process.
http://www.salon.com/2013/01/07/study_racial_stereotyping_linked_to_creative_stagnation/
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Just give them a Five Hour Energy!
January 7th, 2013 at 3:13 pm
259.Scourge Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 2:52 pm
Was Dakota the one that said when KoolKell stands up his chair does too?
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I wish I could take credit for that one!
January 7th, 2013 at 3:16 pm
Beeech, now that you and Cinnamon are no longer “an item,” is she gonna be coming in here and dissin’ ya and spilled your secrets?!
January 7th, 2013 at 3:17 pm
Reggie’s gut says it wish it didn’t have 2 of the Grand Slam breakfast platters…
January 7th, 2013 at 3:18 pm
lefty12 Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 3:03 pm
Reg won’t have anything to do with him, only GB practice squad guys for us
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Thats because GB practice squad guys are better than Al’s 53 man roster guys.
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Wasn’t over half our roster new players? Next year it will almost certainly be over 3/4 new players.
How much longer will the “Al’s players” excuse remain valid? Its already getting old.
NO MORE EXCUSES fellows…
January 7th, 2013 at 3:19 pm
Gdog
the ridiculous salary of Al’s terrible 53-man roster, and the trade of draft picks, kept us from getting legit talent this year. We did get new players just to change the discipline/philosophy – earn your way into the lineup.
As for getting legit talent, this is off-season #1 for that.
January 7th, 2013 at 3:21 pm
John David Booty
I am a big believer in everyone in the NFL is that much faster than in college, however, what I saw from Rey against the Texans was his worst football performance at any level — saw him play in high school, college, and now.
His lack of speed was apparent and the Texans made sure to exploit it time and again. Getting torched by Arian Foster is no big deal — Foster is fleet-footed.
But to get turned around and juked by tight ends is another.
Love Rey. Loved him ever since he went from Oxnard to Eureka and then down to USC.
But, if he brings that same performance he had against the Texans next season, yuck.
January 7th, 2013 at 3:24 pm
Gdog-what are you talking about?I was commenting about Reg picking up GB practice squad players.
January 7th, 2013 at 3:25 pm
lmao at gb practice squad guys better than raider roster…
January 7th, 2013 at 3:26 pm
Niece just broke my Raiders beer mug, so freakin PO’d
January 7th, 2013 at 3:27 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 3:25 pm
lmao at gb practice squad guys better than raider roster…
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they double our wins every year, so the practice squad has to be better than our 53
January 7th, 2013 at 3:28 pm
Scourge Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 3:16 pm
Beeech, now that you and Cinnamon are no longer “an item,” is she gonna be coming in here and dissin’ ya and spilled your secrets?!
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Actually we just got back together about 3 mins ago
She scored some magic mushrooms from some dude in the elevator and we started tripping in the hot tub
After making sweet love in the doggy style position, we realized we were right for one another
We’re both in tears right now over the magic of the universe, my new romantic hip hop love song is going to be totally epic
January 7th, 2013 at 3:30 pm
McFadden20 – I hear ya man…my girl’s niece broke my Raider cognac glass and that was over a year ago; and I’m still pissed..Lol….yeah I can go buy another one and should’ve by now; but it’s the principal!
January 7th, 2013 at 3:30 pm
Love, ah yeah!
January 7th, 2013 at 3:31 pm
I saw a guy at the Gym this morning with a huge Raider Shield tattooed across his back.
January 7th, 2013 at 3:32 pm
alex7 Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 3:19 pm
Gdog
the ridiculous salary of Al’s terrible 53-man roster, and the trade of draft picks, kept us from getting legit talent this year. We did get new players just to change the discipline/philosophy – earn your way into the lineup.
As for getting legit talent, this is off-season #1 for that.
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And yet McK kept a player like Seymour around, and then doubled down on the STUPID by having him redo it… thus making it hurt even more when we cut him.
Look.. Al and McK have to share the blame here pretty dam quick.. I know how many people here hated Al, but that excuse is just getting lame.
January 7th, 2013 at 3:32 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 3:26 pm
Niece just broke my Raiders beer mug, so freakin PO’d
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If you’da bought her one like she asked, you would be in this situation. Now yo’re even.
January 7th, 2013 at 3:34 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 3:31 pm
I saw a guy at the Gym this morning with a huge Raider Shield tattooed across his back.
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Reminded you of wifey, eh, KK?!
January 7th, 2013 at 3:34 pm
279.alex7 Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 3:19 pm
Gdog
the ridiculous salary of Al’s terrible 53-man roster, and the trade of draft picks, kept us from getting legit talent this year. We did get new players just to change the discipline/philosophy – earn your way into the lineup.
As for getting legit talent, this is off-season #1 for that.
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Every year Al renegotiated contracts, EVERY YEAR! Your telling me that McKenzie wasn’t capable of that? I don’t buy it.
And at what point did Mike Brisiel “Earn his way into the lineup?”
Stop making excuses.
January 7th, 2013 at 3:34 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 3:31 pm
I saw a guy at the Gym this morning with a huge Raider Shield tattooed across his back.
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Were you making love to him in the doggy style position?
January 7th, 2013 at 3:34 pm
Just think,if the Raiders win 6 games next year they will have a better winning percentage in Reggie’s and DA’s 1st two years than Al’s teams had in the last 9 years.
January 7th, 2013 at 3:36 pm
Scourge Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 3:34 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 3:31 pm
I saw a guy at the Gym this morning with a huge Raider Shield tattooed across his back.
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Reminded you of wifey, eh, KK?!
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Your mother actually.
January 7th, 2013 at 3:40 pm
Seymour is a FA so it doesn’t cost a dime to get rid of him.
January 7th, 2013 at 3:41 pm
Must have been in the jacuzzi…
January 7th, 2013 at 3:41 pm
For all you Manti Te’o lovers the time has finally come for ya boy to be exposed, I ve said for weeks months that he was a fraud, now its put up or shut up time vs an opponent who will not let up this game is a true legacy game for Manti. This game will surely take Manti’s name out of the ring of our draft plans, if im wrong I will eat crow tomorrow but I doubt it.
January 7th, 2013 at 3:42 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 3:36 pm
Scourge Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 3:34 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 3:31 pm
I saw a guy at the Gym this morning with a huge Raider Shield tattooed across his back.
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Reminded you of wifey, eh, KK?!
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Your mother actually.
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Touchy, aren’t we? I musta hit a nerve!
January 7th, 2013 at 3:42 pm
For the record,I didn’t hate Al.I just thought he was inept for the last many years.
January 7th, 2013 at 3:42 pm
Kell, what were you doing at the gym?
January 7th, 2013 at 3:43 pm
whats the over under for Bama rushing for over 200 yards?
January 7th, 2013 at 3:43 pm
#301 Bobbing for apples
January 7th, 2013 at 3:43 pm
Reggie’s 2012 FA signings:
Head Coach: Dennis Allen
CB Ron Bartell UFA St. Louis Rams
LB Korey Bosworth UFA Detroit Lions(2012)
OG Mike Brisiel UFA Houston Texans
WR Duke Calhoun UFA New York Giants
P/K Eddy Carmona UDFA
DE Wayne Dorsey UDFA
TE Kyle Efaw UDFA
CB Coye Francies UFA Seattle Seahawks(2012)
CB Joselio Hanson UFA Philadelphia(2012)
TE Andre Hardy UFA
OT Kevin Haslam UFA Jacksonville Jaguars
OT Nick Howell UFA New Orleans(2012)
TE Tory Humphrey UFA New Orleans Saints
CB Pat Lee UFA Green Bay Packers
QB Matt Leinart UFA Houston Texans
CB LeQuan Lewis UFA
C Colin Miller UFA
QB Kyle Newhall-Caballero UDFA
WR/RS Roscoe Parrish UFA San Diego(2012)
FB TréShawn Robinson UDFA
FB Owen Schmitt UFA Philadelphia Eagles
WR Travionte Session UDFA
CB Shawntae SpencerUFA San Francisco
DE/OLB Dave Tollefson UFA New York Giants
OT Ed Wang UFA
OLB Philip Wheeler UFA Indianapolis Colts
Reggie’s 2012 Draft:
3rd 95[a] Tony Bergstrom OG Utah
4th 129[b] Miles Burris OLB San Diego State
5th 158[d] Jack Crawford DE Penn State
5th 168[c] Juron Criner WR Arizona
6th 189 Christo BilukidiDT Georgia State
7th 230[e] Nathan Stupar MLB Penn State
Reggie’s 2012 Undrafted Free Agents:
CB Conroy Black Utah
LB Kaelin Burnett Nevada
WR/TE Derek Carrier Beloit
WR Brandon Carswell USC
CB Corey Gatewood Stanford
DT Raphael Guidry Kansas State
DT Dominique Hamilton Missouri
S Aaron Henry Wisconsin
LB Chad Kilgore Northwest Missouri
P Marquette King Fort Valley State
OT Dan Knapp Arizona State
LB Mario Kurn San Diego
WR Thomas Mayo Cal (PA)
WR DeAundre Muhammad Indiana
DE Darius Nall UCF
OG Lucas Nix Pitt
CB Chaz Powell Penn State
WR Rod Streater Temple
Opinions/Grades?
January 7th, 2013 at 3:43 pm
K-Rat the 60 year old Super Troll making yo momma jokes on the football blog
Gotta wonder where it all went wrong, eh old goat?
FO SHIZZLE
January 7th, 2013 at 3:49 pm
I was expecting to be called a pootbutt?
January 7th, 2013 at 3:51 pm
FIRE REGGIE NOW.
January 7th, 2013 at 3:52 pm
Scourge Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 3:49 pm
I was expecting to be called a pootbutt?
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Yeah, I can imagine.
January 7th, 2013 at 3:52 pm
SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 3:30 pm
McFadden20 – I hear ya man…my girl’s niece broke my Raider cognac glass and that was over a year ago; and I’m still pissed..Lol….yeah I can go buy another one and should’ve by now; but it’s the principal!
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yup it always hurt when something you really like breaks, it hurts more because i got it from my gf on my birthday, anything else broken, no problem
January 7th, 2013 at 3:52 pm
Beeech, I think old Marie Kane is on Kell’s *ss to make cold calls tryin to sell that listing he’s had for so long.
January 7th, 2013 at 3:54 pm
Scourge Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 3:32 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 3:26 pm
Niece just broke my Raiders beer mug, so freakin PO’d
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If you’da bought her one like she asked, you would be in this situation. Now yo’re even.
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LMFAO she didn’t ask for her own beer mug, she’s not even 2 yet, but hella funny
January 7th, 2013 at 3:55 pm
Scourge Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 3:52 pm
Beeech, I think old Marie Kane is on Kell’s *ss to make cold calls tryin to sell that listing he’s had for so long.
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I sold that in November. Thanks.
January 7th, 2013 at 3:55 pm
Scourge Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 3:52 pm
Beeech, I think old Marie Kane is on Kell’s *ss to make cold calls tryin to sell that listing he’s had for so long.
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lol….
January 7th, 2013 at 3:57 pm
and people think he is a personnel man….lol
January 7th, 2013 at 3:57 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 3:06 pm
Study: Racial stereotyping linked to creative stagnation
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In a related study, incessant copying and pasting of obscure race related articles to a football blog also linked to creative stagnation.
January 7th, 2013 at 3:58 pm
3611.John David Booty Says:
San Diego is interviewing Tom Gamble for their GM position. Tom is respected in the league, and has the ability to bring some good coaching talent with him. I think he’s done a real good job with the 9ers personnel and helping them build a solid team. We’ll see what happens there, but SD is looking to improve from what theyve been doing.
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im not sure if ur a reggie fan or not …but thats exactly how reggie was seen amongst other teams before he came here…..i feel fortunate he took the job to fix the huge cloud of smoke and mirrors this team had the year before with an 8-8 record….the team was a mess…. and for things to get better, they have to get worse first…looking forward to next year
January 7th, 2013 at 3:59 pm
Reggie’s 2012 FA signings:
Head Coach: Dennis Allen
CB Ron Bartell UFA St. Louis Rams
LB Korey Bosworth UFA Detroit Lions(2012)
OG Mike Brisiel UFA Houston Texans
WR Duke Calhoun UFA New York Giants
P/K Eddy Carmona UDFA
DE Wayne Dorsey UDFA
TE Kyle Efaw UDFA
CB Coye Francies UFA Seattle Seahawks(2012)
CB Joselio Hanson UFA Philadelphia(2012)
TE Andre Hardy UFA
OT Kevin Haslam UFA Jacksonville Jaguars
OT Nick Howell UFA New Orleans(2012)
TE Tory Humphrey UFA New Orleans Saints
CB Pat Lee UFA Green Bay Packers
QB Matt Leinart UFA Houston Texans
CB LeQuan Lewis UFA
C Colin Miller UFA
QB Kyle Newhall-Caballero UDFA
WR/RS Roscoe Parrish UFA San Diego(2012)
FB TréShawn Robinson UDFA
FB Owen Schmitt UFA Philadelphia Eagles
WR Travionte Session UDFA
CB Shawntae SpencerUFA San Francisco
DE/OLB Dave Tollefson UFA New York Giants
OT Ed Wang UFA
OLB Philip Wheeler UFA Indianapolis Colts
Reggie’s 2012 Draft:
3rd 95[a] Tony Bergstrom OG Utah
4th 129[b] Miles Burris OLB San Diego State
5th 158[d] Jack Crawford DE Penn State
5th 168[c] Juron Criner WR Arizona
6th 189 Christo BilukidiDT Georgia State
7th 230[e] Nathan Stupar MLB Penn State
Reggie’s 2012 Undrafted Free Agents:
CB Conroy Black Utah
LB Kaelin Burnett Nevada
WR/TE Derek Carrier Beloit
WR Brandon Carswell USC
CB Corey Gatewood Stanford
DT Raphael Guidry Kansas State
DT Dominique Hamilton Missouri
S Aaron Henry Wisconsin
LB Chad Kilgore Northwest Missouri
P Marquette King Fort Valley State
OT Dan Knapp Arizona State
LB Mario Kurn San Diego
WR Thomas Mayo Cal (PA)
WR DeAundre Muhammad Indiana
DE Darius Nall UCF
OG Lucas Nix Pitt
CB Chaz Powell Penn State
WR Rod Streater Temple
Opinions/Grades?
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Looks to me, he’s been very busy looking for players. He’s a personnel man.
January 7th, 2013 at 3:59 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 3:57 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 3:06 pm
Study: Racial stereotyping linked to creative stagnation
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In a related study, incessant copying and pasting of obscure race related articles to a football blog also linked to creative stagnation.
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yup lol
January 7th, 2013 at 4:00 pm
canadianraider Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 3:58 pm
3611.John David Booty Says:
San Diego is interviewing Tom Gamble for their GM position. Tom is respected in the league, and has the ability to bring some good coaching talent with him. I think he’s done a real good job with the 9ers personnel and helping them build a solid team. We’ll see what happens there, but SD is looking to improve from what theyve been doing.
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im not sure if ur a reggie fan or not …but thats exactly how reggie was seen amongst other teams before he came here…..i feel fortunate he took the job to fix the huge cloud of smoke and mirrors this team had the year before with an 8-8 record….the team was a mess…. and for things to get better, they have to get worse first…looking forward to next year
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YUp sometimes you got to take 1 step back to make a huge leap jump
January 7th, 2013 at 4:00 pm
Yup Lol. Hahahahaha. Smh.
January 7th, 2013 at 4:01 pm
Where do you guys see our team next year if we get some one like Norv or NO OC as our OC and we get a #1 receiver, and on D we sign a good pass rusher and draft another and upgrade our secondary and linebacking corps
January 7th, 2013 at 4:02 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 4:00 pm
Yup Lol. Hahahahaha. Smh.
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ROFLMFAO
January 7th, 2013 at 4:02 pm
Jack Reacher and Zero Dark Thirty were pretty good movies
January 7th, 2013 at 4:03 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 4:02 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 4:00 pm
Yup Lol. Hahahahaha. Smh.
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ROFLMFAO
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ROFLMFAO, Yuk Yuk Yuk. Soooooooooooo funny/
January 7th, 2013 at 4:03 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 3:55 pm
Scourge Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 3:52 pm
Beeech, I think old Marie Kane is on Kell’s *ss to make cold calls tryin to sell that listing he’s had for so long.
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I sold that in November. Thanks.
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Congratulations. Did you take the wife to Arby’s to celebrate?
January 7th, 2013 at 4:04 pm
mumbles busy opening his jenny craig package..
January 7th, 2013 at 4:04 pm
I guess you had to….she’s the one with the credit card.
January 7th, 2013 at 4:04 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 4:03 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 4:02 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 4:00 pm
Yup Lol. Hahahahaha. Smh.
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ROFLMFAO
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ROFLMFAO, Yuk Yuk Yuk. Soooooooooooo funny/
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Shutup oldman stop laughing at yourself in the mirror
January 7th, 2013 at 4:05 pm
I wanna see Django, heard its a good movie, any one seen it ?
January 7th, 2013 at 4:06 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 3:57 pm
In a related study, incessant copying and pasting of obscure race related articles to a football blog also linked to creative stagnation [in the realty business].
January 7th, 2013 at 4:06 pm
Congratulations. Did you take the wife to Arby’s to celebrate?
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Scourge, have you taken your mother to a salon to have her back waxed?
January 7th, 2013 at 4:07 pm
Anyone seen Mistic “wave of the future” Supavillian? There was a reason the read option was not going to make it in the league. Tearing your Pro Bowl Q’s knee up each and every year has it problems.
January 7th, 2013 at 4:09 pm
wave of the future hahaha it was fun while it lastes
January 7th, 2013 at 4:09 pm
lasted**
January 7th, 2013 at 4:11 pm
It’s sad how some posters in here, due to their scouting expertise and the frequency of how correct they are with everything that has to do with football, hate on Pryor…or just want Mistic to be wrong.
You know he is on the Raiders, your favorite team? lol
If he turns out to be a good quarterback and leads our teams to wins, once we fix all of our other problems, you should change your handle to “I’m TP6’s beeotch”.
=D
January 7th, 2013 at 4:16 pm
Every Raider fan want every Raider player on the team to succeed, expect some fans ( you know who they are) who wants some players to fail so bad, so they can come in here and tell us i told you so, Pryor has huge potential but he isn’t ready to start games as some guys like to point out, but hey if he works on his passing and becomes a great Raider than we will all be ecstatic
January 7th, 2013 at 4:16 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
Niece just broke my Raiders beer mug, so freakin PO’d
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Brother or sister owe you big time, now. Unless you were babysitting. Then you’re screwed.
January 7th, 2013 at 4:17 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 6th, 2013 at 10:48 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 6th, 2013 at 10:32 pm
I imagine Reggie is a pretty good personnel man. But he either made a mistake in his HC hire, or Letting DA hire Knapp.
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He made a very good hire in his HC selection. The problem with the Raider is we would be better off right now if we were an EXPANSION TEAM. That way, we would have the overall number one, and we could pick player off other teams rosters. We don’t have either of those options.
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Wow, that’s a far-fetched excuse. Geez.
January 7th, 2013 at 4:18 pm
Kell, you’re just upset that, no matter what fast food joint you go to, they automatically give you the senior citizen discount without asking.
January 7th, 2013 at 4:19 pm
Mcfadden20
I agree and I’m not one saying he should start next year but I see some good things in him and plenty he could work on as well.
January 7th, 2013 at 4:19 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 4:11 pm
It’s sad how some posters in here, due to their scouting expertise and the frequency of how correct they are with everything that has to do with football, hate on Pryor…or just want Mistic to be wrong.
You know he is on the Raiders, your favorite team? lol
If he turns out to be a good quarterback and leads our teams to wins, once we fix all of our other problems, you should change your handle to “I’m TP6’s beeotch”.
=D
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Personally I like mistic and Terrel Pryor has no bigger fan on this planet than me. I wanted to see him out there. I wanted him to have a good game. But you have to call a spade a spade, pardon the pun. Marquee Q’s don’t just fall out the sky every five seconds. That’s why they make $15mm a year. And to have 32 complete scouting departments pass on this guy time and time again, probably should tell us all something. Pryor can throw a five yard touch pass. That, he can do. But he could not throw a forty yard laser in a very tight window. Carson Palmer can. Carson Palmer is a remarkable Q. But some if not most people in here do not see, and will never see it, until Palmer goes and we are left with Josh McCown again.
As for Mistic all I have said are two things: lst, the problem with the pistol or read offense is you are exposing your Q to GREAT risk. Well after last nights game, check.
2ndly, I would put a single high safety, with 9 or 10 in the box, and make that Q beat you with the deep ball because they will not be able to run or pass into that threshing machine defense. Check. And checkmate.
January 7th, 2013 at 4:20 pm
Wasn’t Nick Howell the replacement for Winston Justice yesterday during the Colts game??
January 7th, 2013 at 4:22 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 4:17 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 6th, 2013 at 10:48 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 6th, 2013 at 10:32 pm
I imagine Reggie is a pretty good personnel man. But he either made a mistake in his HC hire, or Letting DA hire Knapp.
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He made a very good hire in his HC selection. The problem with the Raider is we would be better off right now if we were an EXPANSION TEAM. That way, we would have the overall number one, and we could pick player off other teams rosters. We don’t have either of those options.
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Wow, that’s a far-fetched excuse. Geez.
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Phony Koolkell you posted that same thing a couple of days ago. So, you are saying, that having the overall number three pick is somehow better than having the overall number one pick? Or, that being able to just snatch unprotected rostered players is somehow worse than not being able to do that? Explain. You must be bored and tired from cross posting all day.
January 7th, 2013 at 4:22 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 3:26 pm
Niece just broke my Raiders beer mug, so freakin PO’d
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Put her on waivers.
And next time dont leave it where she can reach it LOL
January 7th, 2013 at 4:23 pm
lefty12 Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 3:40 pm
Seymour is a FA so it doesn’t cost a dime to get rid of him.
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Not until 2017.
There is going to be a huge cap hit either way. Thats what happens when you renegotiate veteran players you don’t intent to keep.
January 7th, 2013 at 4:23 pm
With Pryor at QB, we moved the ball and we scored points. Thats a good start for a QB who hadn’t played since the Sugar Bowl or has any timing down with his WR’s (who are prone to dropping balls) or reps with the first team.
January 7th, 2013 at 4:24 pm
Do they make Raiders sippycups?
January 7th, 2013 at 4:24 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 4:22 pm
He made a very good hire in his HC selection. The problem with the Raider is we would be better off right now if we were an EXPANSION TEAM. That way, we would have the overall number one, and we could pick player off other teams rosters. We don’t have either of those options.
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Damn, What An Excuse!!!
January 7th, 2013 at 4:25 pm
They must. Kell’s wife takes one along for him when they go out to dinner at the fast food joints.
January 7th, 2013 at 4:27 pm
Irish 28 Bama 24
January 7th, 2013 at 4:27 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 4:23 pm
With Pryor at QB, we moved the ball and we scored points. Thats a good start for a QB who hadn’t played since the Sugar Bowl or has any timing down with his WR’s (who are prone to dropping balls) or reps with the first team.
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Yes, but the majority of Pryor’s points came very late in the last game of the season and while Pryor actually played OK in the lst half, he played HORRIBLY in the second half until the end when the SD defense had clearly checked out. Nothing personal to Pryor fans or Pryor himself, but that is the fact. So, are you going to throw a guy out there and hope he can miraculously discover how to deliver a pass with accuracy or is everyone going to come to their senses and realize that this player is best suited for some other role? Like Ron Curry?
January 7th, 2013 at 4:27 pm
Scourge Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 4:25 pm
They must. Kell’s wife takes one along for him when they go out to dinner at the fast food joints.
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Ouch, that’s soooooooooooo hurtful. Lol.
January 7th, 2013 at 4:29 pm
I understand your view Bush but I guess we’ll have to wait and see. Maybe the Lord will bless him with accuracy over the offseason! lol
January 7th, 2013 at 4:30 pm
345.Gdog Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 4:23 pm
lefty12 Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 3:40 pm
Seymour is a FA so it doesn’t cost a dime to get rid of him.
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Not until 2017.
There is going to be a huge cap hit either way. Thats what happens when you renegotiate veteran players you don’t intent to keep.
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Am I wrong or did Seymour’s contract get voided this year this year b/c he missed so many games?
January 7th, 2013 at 4:33 pm
Am I wrong or did Seymour’s contract get voided this year this year b/c he missed so many games?
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Thats what one of the semis reported earlier
January 7th, 2013 at 4:35 pm
Per Rotoworld
Raiders DT Richard Seymour’s contract will void at season’s end, and he will become an unrestricted free agent.
Seymour restructured his deal in March, which turned his $7.5 million fully guaranteed base salary for this year into a $925,000 base with a $6.575 million guaranteed roster bonus. Among the restructuring’s details, Seymour’s final four years and $30 million have voided. The 33-year-old has recorded 15 tackles and three sacks in eight games this season. Seymour has missed five games with a hamstring injury.
http://www.rotoworld.com/recent/nfl/1134/richard-seymour
January 7th, 2013 at 4:37 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 4:16 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
Niece just broke my Raiders beer mug, so freakin PO’d
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Brother or sister owe you big time, now. Unless you were babysitting. Then you’re screwed.
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Yup, I’m going to make them get one
January 7th, 2013 at 4:38 pm
I think your niece goot tired of all the excuses for da
January 7th, 2013 at 4:38 pm
Awwww McTroll’s mug was broken
January 7th, 2013 at 4:38 pm
Seymour’s been retired for a while now.
January 7th, 2013 at 4:40 pm
LOL Amen to that Scourge!
January 7th, 2013 at 4:42 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
Niece just broke my Raiders beer mug, so freakin PO’d
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Don’t leave pictures of Kell’s wife laying around. Poor toddler probably saw it, freaked, dropped mug, etc. Since you don’t mention if she was crying, we can assume she was laughing?!
January 7th, 2013 at 4:42 pm
Barret Jones? Hmm
January 7th, 2013 at 4:44 pm
“as RGIII did and R.Wilson …. sometimes determination does a lot.”
Count the pre-season look as well for TP. He can run. He’s elusive. He hasn’t shown he can throw the way the those mentioned above demonstrated it to get their jobs.
All kinds of guys, Grads included, can be cheerleaders, feisty guys, can be elusive, but Grads couldn’t throw.
January 7th, 2013 at 4:44 pm
Barret Jones seems like a Reggie guy.
January 7th, 2013 at 4:46 pm
Well guys gotta go start my mise en plus.
January 7th, 2013 at 4:46 pm
Scourge Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 4:42 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
Niece just broke my Raiders beer mug, so freakin PO’d
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Don’t leave pictures of Kell’s wife laying around. Poor toddler probably saw it, freaked, dropped mug, etc. Since you don’t mention if she was crying, we can assume she was laughing?!
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You could say that LOL
January 7th, 2013 at 4:50 pm
ND-17
Bama-13
Te’o solidifies his status tonight.
January 7th, 2013 at 4:53 pm
So, I guess Norv is waiting until the HC jobs have been decided before committing to Oakland.
January 7th, 2013 at 4:53 pm
MiamiRaider78 Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 4:29 pm
I understand your view Bush but I guess we’ll have to wait and see. Maybe the Lord will bless him with accuracy over the offseason! lol
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Well, he’s a hardworking kid and he says he is going to work on those kinds of things in the offseason. But again, if he spent 23 years and can’t do it, I just can’t see him all of sudden becoming Andrew Luck in 3 and a half months.
January 7th, 2013 at 4:54 pm
Back-N-Black Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 4:53 pm
So, I guess Norv is waiting until the HC jobs have been decided before committing to Oakland.
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Same thing with Pete Carmichael, probably.
January 7th, 2013 at 4:57 pm
The thing with Carmichael is if he makes a lateral movement — OC for another team — the Saints can block the move.
Wasn’t Carmichael on McKenzie’s list for potential head coaches before he hired DA?
But, based on the interview with Pryor above, there is an inkling Norv Turner is the next Raiders’ OC. And yeah, he’s probably waiting for all the HC jobs to get filled before committing to a coordinator job.
Turner is a California guy — Martinez to be exact — and he’d probably like to go back up to the Bay Area.
January 7th, 2013 at 4:58 pm
If Manti has a big game, does Reggie draft him? Or do you all think we’ll trade down?
January 7th, 2013 at 4:59 pm
Seymour Bush
Remember the movie Neccessary Roughness?
Scott Bakula’s — quarterback — character had one of those tackling dummies set up in the middle of the field on his farm with a jersey and helmet on.
He would rifle the ball at it every now and then, knock it over, it would prop back up and he’d do it all over again.
Pyor needs one of those so he can practice his velocity and accuracy during the offseason.
January 7th, 2013 at 5:01 pm
MiamiRaider78
Reggie McKenzie probably has an idea of who he wants at No. 3.
And, he’ll trade down if he gets a deal he likes.
He said “he likes his picks” at his introductory press conference in reference to the Palmer trade.
I don’t see McKenzie trading down unless he gets a deal he cannot turn down.
January 7th, 2013 at 5:03 pm
If you rebels hadnt posted in the Senior Bowl thread, we’d have broken the record for comments.
January 7th, 2013 at 5:03 pm
Well, I gotta get ready for the game. Alabama 17, ND 14.
January 7th, 2013 at 5:04 pm
See ya, Scourge.
January 7th, 2013 at 5:04 pm
There will be some guys at #3 that can certainly help this team. And we have a National Championship Game coming up! Sweet.
January 7th, 2013 at 5:04 pm
I’m so glad he’s gone!
January 7th, 2013 at 5:07 pm
Pete Carmichael’s contract has expired with the NO so he’s free to look for jobs anywhere
January 7th, 2013 at 5:07 pm
Jackasspuria Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 4:57 pm
The thing with Carmichael is if he makes a lateral movement — OC for another team — the Saints can block the move.
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Nope. Carmichael’s contract has expired, so the Saints can’t block anything. If he wants to come here, he can.
January 7th, 2013 at 5:09 pm
Injuries and qbs.
people are pointing to rgIII and claiming that his injury and loss yesterday was the end of the hybrid offense and the wave of the future.
Lets take a quick look at this laughable notion.
RGIII didnt sustain a new injury yesterday, he aggravated a pre existing injury from weeks pryor.
RGIII didnt injury the knee on a designed qb run he was on a scramble and that is how he sustained his injury. He was in the pocket on a drop back wrs were covered and he felt pressure so he escaped the pocket. His injury had nothing to do with the hybrid pistol offense or his athleticism.
he was injured ultimately due to pass rush causing him to scramble. In reality that is no different than carson palmer being hit by the pass rush and injuring his knee a few years ago or ending this season injured because of a pass rush.
For the record palmer cutler gabbert ponder cassel all missed time this year. Injuries are simply a part fo the game for both mobile and no mobile qbs, in and out of the pocket.
Also please take a look at cam newton, russel wilson and kapernic, they have managed tos tay healthy and all are mobile qbs that run hybrid offense.
besides john elway randall cunnigham fran tarkenton, and staubach, macnabb mcnair, all enjoyed long careers and they were mobile. This is more proof that mobile qbs can be durable just like non moible qbs.
As much as people want to claim the end of the wave of the future keep few things in mind.
Kappy and wilson are still in playoffs, so it isnt even over this year, let alone forever.
Notice the age of kappy wilson and rgIII cam and pryor. they are all 1st and 2nd year players. we know for sure that at least a few of these guys will replace the aging players like manning brady and so on.
So in essence this isnt the end you are so desperately clamoring for in fact it is just begining.
January 7th, 2013 at 5:09 pm
peace
January 7th, 2013 at 5:11 pm
DeMarcus Van Dyke @D_VanDyke8
I dislike Notre Dame and I want Bama to win it but no team in history won back to back and # 5 for Notre is The best player in the nation
January 7th, 2013 at 5:13 pm
why would carmicheal come to play for this gm? Cheap, slow practice players is all he is bringing…
January 7th, 2013 at 5:13 pm
Ah yes,
Just saw Carmichael and Aaron Kromer are set to become coaching free agents.
January 7th, 2013 at 5:13 pm
rgIII injured his knee on a drop back pass play vs baltimore. He scrambled when chased out of the pocket.
No different than plamer hit in the pocket and blowing his knee out or brady hit in the pocket injuring his knee
You guys are funny
peace
January 7th, 2013 at 5:15 pm
Marc Trestman is getting some interviews for HC gigs.
I liked what he did during his time in Oakland.
Of course, any offensive coach would look good with Gannon at QB and a stout line in front of him blocking.
Wonder if Oakland is interested in bringing back an old flame?
January 7th, 2013 at 5:16 pm
Im telling you Aron Kromer or Pat Hill will be the RAIDERS next OC
January 7th, 2013 at 5:17 pm
Carmichael is rumored to be hired by Marrone.
January 7th, 2013 at 5:17 pm
Pete Carmichael is one of the best OC’s in football, his boss Payton is comig back with a vengeance and the Saints are a good bet to return to contender status next year, why would Carmichael want to leave that situation?.
But let’s say he does leave, why would he come to a place where the Head Coach’s seat is already warm?.
Pete’s a pipe dream, if somehow DA can get him he’ll get a ton of credit in my book and it would be huge for the organization to land such a high profile Coordinator.
January 7th, 2013 at 5:20 pm
Carmichael — in all likely hood — is staying in New Orleans to stay on Sean Payton’s staff.
A reason who could leave for another team?
To get out from under Payton’s shadow and show his style of offense can succeed elsewhere.
January 7th, 2013 at 5:21 pm
jackasspuria Says:
Turner is a California guy — Martinez to be exact — and he’d probably like to go back up to the Bay Area.
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Where you live? Bay area is nice but…
January 7th, 2013 at 5:21 pm
So, will the new OC get the call on what blocking scheme the Raiders will run next season?
Was the zone implemented because of Knapp, or, did DA also want the scheme installed?
January 7th, 2013 at 5:21 pm
The Beeech Diggity Dawg Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 2:10 pm
Dudes, total Beeech Bummer!
Just found out from my new girlfriend Cinnamon that she smoked blunts with Justin Beeber last week and then they played some tonsil hockey
Not that we were a couple last week – and I’ve cheated on her 15-18 times since we started dating yesterday – but that’s totally wack, huh
Can’t imagine her tonguing the Beeeech Lawg with the same tongue that tongued Beiber’s tongue
UN-SILLY FRESH
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As long as her tongue wasn’t up his cooter you’ll be fine.
January 7th, 2013 at 5:22 pm
lets go irish!
January 7th, 2013 at 5:22 pm
Jackasspuria Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 5:21 pm
So, will the new OC get the call on what blocking scheme the Raiders will run next season?
Was the zone implemented because of Knapp, or, did DA also want the scheme installed?
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I’m assuming it was Knapp, especially since he recommended his good buddy Frank Pollack as o-coordinator.
January 7th, 2013 at 5:22 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure
I live in Humboldt County. Northern California. A lot of people think Northern California ends at Santa Rosa, haha.
I met Norv during a summer in Martinez a few years back. Asked him where he’s from and he said he’s from Martinez.
January 7th, 2013 at 5:23 pm
Al Saunders is the safest bet and the logical move, DA can’t afford the time to install a completely new system once again, hiring Saunders who is familiar with the players and knows what they can do in the right system is the fastet way to upgrade the Offense and return to competitiveness in 2013.
January 7th, 2013 at 5:24 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 5:16 pm
Im telling you Aron Kromer or Pat Hill will be the RAIDERS next OC
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Both are good possibilities, but I still say Reggie will want to take a look at Edgar Bennett or Ben McAdoo.
January 7th, 2013 at 5:24 pm
RaiderDuck
True, true.
Knapp and Pollack showed up on the staff at nearly the same time.
It’s going to be interesting what scheme/offense the Raiders will go with next season.
McKenzie’s Packer bloodlines run deep and Green Bay runs the spread/zone blocking style offense.
A return to physical power offense would be a welcome sight in Oakland.
January 7th, 2013 at 5:26 pm
Bob Marley
That is what I think too.
Al Saunders as play caller/designer would be the conventional thing to do in terms of timetable and implementing the offense.
But whomever is hired as OC, it will be also interesting to see who the new O-line coach will be.
January 7th, 2013 at 5:27 pm
See you fine folks after the game.
January 7th, 2013 at 5:31 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 4:17 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 6th, 2013 at 10:48 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 6th, 2013 at 10:32 pm
I imagine Reggie is a pretty good personnel man. But he either made a mistake in his HC hire, or Letting DA hire Knapp.
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He made a very good hire in his HC selection. The problem with the Raider is we would be better off right now if we were an EXPANSION TEAM. That way, we would have the overall number one, and we could pick player off other teams rosters. We don’t have either of those options.
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Wow, that’s a far-fetched excuse. Geez.
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Hey Kell that wasn’t me saying that. I’m sure you can understand that. DA hasn’t done squat.
I am not a DA apologist nor I be a sympathizer. He was wrong to not play TP once CP went down.
January 7th, 2013 at 5:33 pm
Bob Marley Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 5:23 pm
Al Saunders is the safest bet and the logical move, DA can’t afford the time to install a completely new system once again, hiring Saunders who is familiar with the players and knows what they can do in the right system is the fastet way to upgrade the Offense and return to competitiveness in 2013.
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Good luck sellin that to Big Mac and DA. They don’t respond to logic very well.
January 7th, 2013 at 5:34 pm
. Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 5:33 pm
Bob Marley Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 5:23 pm
Al Saunders is the safest bet and the logical move, DA can’t afford the time to install a completely new system once again, hiring Saunders who is familiar with the players and knows what they can do in the right system is the fastet way to upgrade the Offense and return to competitiveness in 2013.
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Good luck sellin that to Big Mac and DA. They don’t respond to logic very well.
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This is true.
January 7th, 2013 at 5:35 pm
Notre Dame gots the gitters.
January 7th, 2013 at 5:35 pm
Teo looks like crap early…Got ran by on the face mask run
January 7th, 2013 at 5:37 pm
Teo blows the tackle…and people think he will make a difference at #3? Hilarious
January 7th, 2013 at 5:38 pm
Carmichael is not coming here. But maybe Joe Lombardi would like a job as an OC. That would be a good hire.
January 7th, 2013 at 5:39 pm
Jackasspuria Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 5:21 pm
So, will the new OC get the call on what blocking scheme the Raiders will run next season?
Was the zone implemented because of Knapp, or, did DA also want the scheme installed?
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Whatever they run better be designed around their player personnel.
January 7th, 2013 at 5:40 pm
Miss dicks favorite notre dame player, sight unseen, has to be everet golson.
January 7th, 2013 at 5:42 pm
Eifert is a great te.
January 7th, 2013 at 5:42 pm
Eifert versus Milliner? Now that is a nice matchup to watch.
January 7th, 2013 at 5:42 pm
GG Says:
If you rebels hadnt posted in the Senior Bowl thread, we’d have broken the record for comments.
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Maybe. June 20th, 2010 3,715 Comments »
We had 3770, but at least 30 of those were regarding the revolt, and quite a few were posted in both threads. Neck and neck. Photo finish. Plus, I didn’t do an extensive search, just remembered a big one around that time, and found it.
January 7th, 2013 at 5:43 pm
That was a catch by Eifert, no?
January 7th, 2013 at 5:44 pm
Jackasspuria Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 5:21 pm
So, will the new OC get the call on what blocking scheme the Raiders will run next season?
Was the zone implemented because of Knapp, or, did DA also want the scheme installed?
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McKenzie and Allen both wanted it. And most of the teams in the playoffs run it.
January 7th, 2013 at 5:45 pm
Te’o = McClain 2.0
Print that!
January 7th, 2013 at 5:45 pm
jackasspuria Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 5:43 pm
That was a catch by Eifert, no?
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Unfortunatley, it looks like he finally gains possession on the boundary. He juggles it one last time then hits the boundary
January 7th, 2013 at 5:45 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 5:42 pm
GG Says:
If you rebels hadnt posted in the Senior Bowl thread, we’d have broken the record for comments.
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Maybe. June 20th, 2010 3,715 Comments »
We had 3770, but at least 30 of those were regarding the revolt, and quite a few were posted in both threads. Neck and neck. Photo finish. Plus, I didn’t do an extensive search, just remembered a big one around that time, and found it.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
When you’re close to making history, gotta go for it. It’s like the Colts resting Manning in week 17 not going for the 16-0. I’m devastated by the decision from Coach Purvisman
January 7th, 2013 at 5:47 pm
wow 2 bs calls so far
January 7th, 2013 at 5:49 pm
Raider O Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 5:45 pm
Te’o = McClain 2.0
Print that!
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Agree, minus the attitude….another missed tackle.
January 7th, 2013 at 5:49 pm
I hate Bama but both of those calls were correct.
January 7th, 2013 at 5:50 pm
I don’t care for either team, just want to see a good game, both calls looked iffy to me
January 7th, 2013 at 5:52 pm
Raider O proves with every post how ignorant he is. Two missed tackles all year. A couple plays don’t change that. Total idiot.
January 7th, 2013 at 5:52 pm
Bama’s Lacy is a big boy. Looks like a guard carrying the rock.
January 7th, 2013 at 5:52 pm
I don’t know why guys are hating on Teo,he won’t be drafted by the Raiders anyway.
January 7th, 2013 at 5:53 pm
LMAO! Teo getting dominated again…I gotta a feeling I will be saying this all night.
January 7th, 2013 at 5:53 pm
Football, both NCAA and the NFL, is big business, hence it is corrupt.
January 7th, 2013 at 5:53 pm
Teo getting burned again.
January 7th, 2013 at 5:54 pm
IM telling u guys.. Trade down.. Draft Dion Jordan or a Bama OLINE men.
Ive been saying it for a while Trade Running back DMAC and draft Stanford Running back Stefan Taylor
or Draft Bamma Running back
EDDIE LACY
January 7th, 2013 at 5:54 pm
Dr_robert Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 5:52 pm
Raider O proves with every post how ignorant he is. Two missed tackles all year. A couple plays don’t change that. Total idiot.
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Missed tackles against WHAT competition? Teo is OVERHYPED. He will face stiffer competition than this in the NFL
January 7th, 2013 at 5:55 pm
Two wasn’t burned moron. He came to the hole and stalemated warmack. Other guys have to help. Know the game.
January 7th, 2013 at 5:55 pm
Been trying to tell people, dont let the hype fool you. Teo is solid, but not elite. Hes no Willis, and definitely not worth the #3. Glad that didnt last too long.
January 7th, 2013 at 5:55 pm
Kirk Herbstreit said manti Te’o missed 2 tackles all year.. he has already missed two today.
Anyone giving him havent played in 45 days execuse or not? Im trying to decide right now.
and no need to talk ish on a player like Manti for reals tho
January 7th, 2013 at 5:56 pm
What competition? Look at their sked. U think they played in the Mac or something?
January 7th, 2013 at 5:56 pm
Trade DMAC.. draft Eddie lacy
6ft 225 pounds durable .. Pound u
January 7th, 2013 at 5:56 pm
Draft OL in abundance. The offense needs to score points, get the run game dominant, give brady-like protection for the QB. From that all success will come.
January 7th, 2013 at 5:57 pm
Notre damn beat Oaklahoma and Stanford this year.. Stanford got jobbed on that last minute call though
January 7th, 2013 at 5:58 pm
U guys are hilarious. The most reactionary fans ever. As soon as guy misses a tackle, he’s horrible. I’m glad u guys don’t have anything to do with the raiders decisions.
January 7th, 2013 at 5:59 pm
Is Eddie Lacy coming out for the draft?
He’s only a junior, I believe.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:00 pm
If anyone cares….
NFL Draft Early Entries
Keenan Allen, WR, California
Stedman Bailey, WR, West Virginia
Le’Veon Bell, RB, Michigan State
Gio Bernard, RB, North Carolina
Knile Davis, RB, Arkansas
Mike Edwards, DB, Hawaii
Matt Elam, S, Florida
Zach Ertz, TE, Stanford
Sharrif Floyd, DT, Florida
Travis Frederick, C, Wisconsin
Johnathan Hankins, DT, Ohio State
William Gholston, DE, Michigan State
Jawan Jamison, RB, Rutgers
Stefphon Jefferson, RB, Nevada
Tony Jefferson, S, Oklahoma
Jelani Jenkins, LB, Florida
Jarvis Jones, LB, Georgia
Joe Kruger, DE, Utah
Marcus Lattimore, RB, South Carolina
Corey Lemonier, DE, Auburn
Kevin Minter, LB, LSU
Alec Ogletree, LB, Georgia
Justin Pugh, OT, Syracuse
Jordan Reed, TE, Florida
Eric Reid, S, LSU
Xavier Rhodes, CB, Florida State
Da’Rick Rogers, WR, Tennessee Tech
Logan Ryan, CB, Rutgers
Tharold Simon, CB, LSU
Dion Sims, TE, Michigan State
Akeem Spence, DT, Illinois
Kenny Stills, WR, Oklahoma
Spencer Ware, RB, LSU
Bjoern Werner, DE, Florida State
Brad Wing, P, LSU
January 7th, 2013 at 6:00 pm
GG Says:
I’m devastated by the decision from Coach Purvisman
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Jesusraiderjim led the revolt or jumped first, anyway. I suppose me posting the following is fairly damning to my defense.
“Remember the Great Ibabuzz Blog Insurrection when we all jumped back to the previous post and continued talking amongst ourselves?”
January 7th, 2013 at 6:00 pm
Dr_robert Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 5:56 pm
What competition? Look at their sked. U think they played in the Mac or something?
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Stanford was their best win…where they needed a ref call. Oklahoma was a good win, but they are not an elite team as A&M showed that. USC? a .500 team and who else did they play? The big 10 that got exposed again this year as the worst BCS conference and the Pittsburgh’s of the world…Some competition.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:01 pm
This does demonstrate why LBs need a good defensive line to keep the blockers off.
Star Lotulelei should be the pick unless we trade down.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:02 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 5:42 pm
GG Says:
If you rebels hadnt posted in the Senior Bowl thread, we’d have broken the record for comments.
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Maybe. June 20th, 2010 3,715 Comments »
We had 3770, but at least 30 of those were regarding the revolt, and quite a few were posted in both threads. Neck and neck. Photo finish. Plus, I didn’t do an extensive search, just remembered a big one around that time, and found it.
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Maybe we need to go back to the last post and continue till we hit the 4K mark.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:04 pm
Dr_robert Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 5:58 pm
U guys are hilarious. The most reactionary fans ever. As soon as guy misses a tackle, he’s horrible. I’m glad u guys don’t have anything to do with the raiders decisions.
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Well you seem to think Pryor is a bad QB because he floated a few. Same thing. Pryor will get better. CP will see to it.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:07 pm
At least Zeke Motta is looking like a good value…
January 7th, 2013 at 6:08 pm
Gosh dAMn! Aj mcarron girlfriend is fine than a motherfkr llllllord! Wow.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:09 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 6:01 pm
This does demonstrate why LBs need a good defensive line to keep the blockers off.
Star Lotulelei should be the pick unless we trade down.
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I agree…I do like Nix.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:10 pm
The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 5:54 pm
Dr_robert Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 5:52 pm
Raider O proves with every post how ignorant he is. Two missed tackles all year. A couple plays don’t change that. Total idiot.
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Missed tackles against WHAT competition? Teo is OVERHYPED. He will face stiffer competition than this in the NFL
$$$$$$$$$$$
Dude,
Don’t waste your time arguing with an attention seeking whore troll who is racist too.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:10 pm
Jackie Bibby Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 6:08 pm
Gosh dAMn! Aj mcarron girlfriend is fine than a motherfkr llllllord! Wow
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Word….draft him and his lady!
January 7th, 2013 at 6:11 pm
This game is going to suck.End of 1st QTR and its already over.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:12 pm
Man, this BCS game is looking more and more like a preseason contest.
Alabama is tearing through Notre Dame with ease.
Is it really over?
Irish have shown no signs of life.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:12 pm
Raider O Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 6:10 pm
The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 5:54 pm
Dr_robert Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 5:52 pm
Raider O proves with every post how ignorant he is. Two missed tackles all year. A couple plays don’t change that. Total idiot.
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Missed tackles against WHAT competition? Teo is OVERHYPED. He will face stiffer competition than this in the NFL
$$$$$$$$$$$
Dude,
Don’t waste your time arguing with an attention seeking whore troll who is racist too.
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Point taken…Hey Denise, how are those leadership skills of Teo working so far?
January 7th, 2013 at 6:12 pm
Post 448 glad to see im not the only person who caught on to doc robs hypocrisy…
January 7th, 2013 at 6:12 pm
This domination is complete…..WOW!!
January 7th, 2013 at 6:13 pm
Jackie Bibby Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 6:08 pm
Gosh dAMn! Aj mcarron girlfriend is fine than a motherfkr llllllord! Wow
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Current Miss Alabama I believe.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:14 pm
. Says:
Maybe we need to go back to the last post and continue till we hit the 4K mark.
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Entirely doable. I forgot Dakota’s hilarious conversation with himself in defiance of us rebels that accounted for another twenty posts.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:15 pm
Man. SAY NO TO TEO.
NO IMPACT WHATSOEVER.
If he is this insignificant against a college team imagine how’d he disappear in the NFL.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:16 pm
F ND. If the cant stop Bama, just roll over. This is ridiculous.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:16 pm
Teo = no way oh
January 7th, 2013 at 6:16 pm
Too bad Alabama didn’t have to play a decent team like Oregon.It would have been a better game.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:16 pm
TEO just got bowled over by #54 trying to make a play.
His stock is PLUMMETING by the second.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:17 pm
Lefty12 Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 6:16 pm
Too bad Alabama didn’t have to play a decent team like Oregon.It would have been a better game.
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If we’d beaten Stanford…c’est la vie.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:17 pm
TEO is a joke.
I wouldn’t take him in the 3rd round.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:18 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 6:15 pm
Man. SAY NO TO TEO.
NO IMPACT WHATSOEVER.
If he is this insignificant against a college team imagine how’d he disappear in the NFL.
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Ditto.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:19 pm
The refs snubbed ND offense on back to back plays but so far defensively Manti has been pretty much a non factor, hes looked pretty average thus far… Jarvis jones #3?
January 7th, 2013 at 6:19 pm
Teo might be a good backup prospect in the 6th if he’s available.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:20 pm
Kelly should be embarrassed.
What a disappointment for the ND faithful.
They don’t belong on the same field.
ND would be a last place team in the SEC.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:20 pm
Just roll over ND.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:20 pm
But he has “heart” and “leadership” and all these other things that don’t help your offense score or your corners cover.
Sigh. Told you guys a month ago.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:21 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 6:17 pm-I wouldn’t take him in the 3rd round.
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I don’t think it was in our plans anyway.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:22 pm
“Fighting” Irish? They look more like “Drunken” Irish out there.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:23 pm
Nick Saban RUNS the NCAA. Gotta just give him his credit. Alabama is a major dynasty. Thats what great coaches do.
Sucks on Sundays watching guys like Dennis Allen, who you know will NEVER produce a winner.
ND is ALWAYS overrated. People still giving them shine off of the past. Theyve never been dominant in my lifetime. Time to face the facts.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:24 pm
Now aren’t we all glad Te’o played against some top-flight competition before draft day?
January 7th, 2013 at 6:26 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 6:20 pm
Kelly should be embarrassed.
What a disappointment for the ND faithful.
They don’t belong on the same field.
ND would be a last place team in the SEC.
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And thats why ND should never be ranked #1 to me. Put them in a conference, youll never see them undefeated. This was the weakest #1 I had seen in a while, and Alabama is appropriately handling them with ease.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:26 pm
Seymour’s contract has ended. It’s void. That’s what the restructuring did, got him OUT.
http://blog.sfgate.com/raiders/2012/12/10/richard-seymour-free-agent-at-seasons-end-returns-to-practice/
You guys are so lazy in your lack of research.
please don’t credit Davis for “restructuring” contracts every year and keeping us under the cap.
Annually we were top-5 in salary, for what? Seven straight 11-loss seasons.
Real roster management has begun.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:26 pm
I’m not trying to hate on ND, it’s just that they barely beat BYU, squeaked by Pitt, and there was another one they barely won.
They are being so clearly dominated it really is sad.
I’m glad we had a chance to see Teo in a big game like this so Reggie won’t be tempted.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:27 pm
Duck,IMO,only on here was Teo being considered as the #3 pick.MLB won’t be our 1st pick.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:27 pm
Haha like Ive been saying all along… Larry Grant 2013! LG should be our starting mlb next year.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:28 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 6:26 pm
I’m not trying to hate on ND, it’s just that they barely beat BYU, squeaked by Pitt, and there was another one they barely won.
They are being so clearly dominated it really is sad.
I’m glad we had a chance to see Teo in a big game like this so Reggie won’t be tempted
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I agree, but Nix seems to be a real deal.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:28 pm
#479,
Alex, I have heard we still owe him 5 mill. regardless.
Do u know what the deal is on that?
Everyone seems to have a different take on that.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:30 pm
The SF Chron’s Vic Tafur noted there is a dead-money issue with Seymour’s deal voiding. All of his signing bonus money accelerates and counts as dead money next season.
Can’t find his tweet or blog entry on it though. But Tarfur had the number.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:30 pm
Blacks guys that throw around the “racism” card are embarrassments to their people and buffoon clowns.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:31 pm
who is this teo guy missing all these tackles?
January 7th, 2013 at 6:31 pm
aiderDuck Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 6:24 pm
Now aren’t we all glad Te’o played against some top-flight competition before draft day?
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I knew he was overhyped…just glad Chubby & denise get to see it
January 7th, 2013 at 6:31 pm
“Seymour restructured his deal in March, lowering his $7.5 million fully guaranteed base salary to the league minimum ($925,000) with the remaining $6.575 million converted to a guaranteed roster bonus.
That bonus will be treated as a signing bonus for salary cap purposes and was prorated over the maximum allowable number of years (five). Thus, the five-year, $37.5 million “extension” that Seymour signed in March.”
The “signing bonus” of $6.575 is guaranteed over the next five years as “dead money” on our salary cap. He won’t see any of the rest of that fake “extension.”
January 7th, 2013 at 6:31 pm
John David Booty
True, true. Saban is a collegiate master.
Wanted to see him tough it out in the NFL and see if he could win the big prize.
Perhaps seeing Carroll do his thing in Seattle will give Saban the itch to once again go to the NFL.
I mean, come on. Saban knows he is a better coach than Carroll. There’s got to be a an inkling he can do better than Pete has done.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:32 pm
Down 21-0 on a key 3rd down you don’t puss out like Gholson just did and bail out of bounds.
This is the national championship.
Is he saving himself…for what?
January 7th, 2013 at 6:32 pm
i bet te’o is a good practice player…
January 7th, 2013 at 6:33 pm
491…i noticed that…thinking nfl already..
January 7th, 2013 at 6:35 pm
I’m proud of my fellow commenters. Keep up the good work.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:35 pm
Lots of great players have mundane quarters. U guys are ignorant so many times busy reactionary fans. Btw I’ve seen Pryor play plenty. Not going by one game vibe also seen teo play around 50 games. U guys don’t know sh1t. Player of the year. A great team that has got notre dame turned around. It’s only a quarter and a half of football against a tremendously talented team and u make blanket calls on a player that has been widely considered one of the best in the country. And u think I don’t know what I’m talking about.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:36 pm
The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 5:34 pm
. Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 5:33 pm
Bob Marley Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 5:23 pm
Al Saunders is the safest bet and the logical move, DA can’t afford the time to install a completely new system once again, hiring Saunders who is familiar with the players and knows what they can do in the right system is the fastet way to upgrade the Offense and return to competitiveness in 2013.
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Good luck sellin that to Big Mac and DA. They don’t respond to logic very well.
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This is true.
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don’t know how many times he has said he doesn’t want to call plays but Saunders has been pretty clear that he has no interest in being the OC.
He’s not going to do it just because the fans think he should.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:36 pm
Robert
some people’s valid point is that Te’o looked great against very suspect competition this year, and getting handled fairly easily one-on-one by a legit team.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:37 pm
And u think I don’t know what I’m talking about.
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We don’t think that Doctor….We KNOW that! nuk, nuk, nuk.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:37 pm
Teo is a good guy. There’s not much he can do. He’s just overmatched.
It’s like when we get mad at a guy who is given a ridiculous contract and he under performs. Is it HIS fault? No. But it adds fuel to the disappointment nonetheless.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:37 pm
What are you babbling about MR, just let it go….let it go……..
January 7th, 2013 at 6:37 pm
Good evenin Alex, S Bush, Lefty, Duck, NATION!!
Tade down in the first get extra picks this year, and Draft Jake Mathews around 20.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:39 pm
alex7 Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 6:31 pm
“Seymour restructured his deal in March, lowering his $7.5 million fully guaranteed base salary to the league minimum ($925,000) with the remaining $6.575 million converted to a guaranteed roster bonus.
That bonus will be treated as a signing bonus for salary cap purposes and was prorated over the maximum allowable number of years (five). Thus, the five-year, $37.5 million “extension” that Seymour signed in March.”
The “signing bonus” of $6.575 is guaranteed over the next five years as “dead money” on our salary cap. He won’t see any of the rest of that fake “extension.”
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It sounds like the “hit” would be just over 1 million a yr. for the next 5. That’s nothing in the grand scheme.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:40 pm
Reason knapp sucked so bad was he was way to conservative and cautious because he had no confidence in his unimaginable game plan. We saw that in pre season. It was that evident.
Too bad it took Big Mac and DA so long to see it.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:41 pm
Back-n-Black Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 6:36 pm
The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 5:34 pm
. Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 5:33 pm
Bob Marley Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 5:23 pm
Al Saunders is the safest bet and the logical move, DA can’t afford the time to install a completely new system once again, hiring Saunders who is familiar with the players and knows what they can do in the right system is the fastet way to upgrade the Offense and return to competitiveness in 2013.
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Good luck sellin that to Big Mac and DA. They don’t respond to logic very well.
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This is true.
……
don’t know how many times he has said he doesn’t want to call plays but Saunders has been pretty clear that he has no interest in being the OC.
He’s not going to do it just because the fans think he should.
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What if we threaten him. Would that help?
January 7th, 2013 at 6:41 pm
te’o is undersized against this huge oline….
January 7th, 2013 at 6:42 pm
DR Bob,haven’t you realized yet that is what these guys do?If he isn’t their choice instead of logically discussing why they feel like they do,they just attack and tear the person apart.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:43 pm
Post 495 you say we dont know sht, but 1 thing we do know is teo hasnt done sht all game and hes shrinking in the moment when it matters most… Talk bad about pryor all you want but when he got his chance to shine he owned it, te’o is folding right infront of our eyes… Not worth the #3 pick and after todays game I doubt he will be.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:43 pm
First of all the “questionable competition” argument is dumb. Look at their sked. It’s a solid one. Teo has not had an impact. But neither has the entire nd defense, which will put most of its starters into the nfl. Alabama has been dominant for a quarter and a half. Big deal. It’s about a body of work. Many of u guys just swing way too wildly on everything u see. U would make horrible coaches or talent evaluators. Ur just average wishy washy fans.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:44 pm
The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 6:37 pm
Good evenin Alex, S Bush, Lefty, Duck, NATION!!
Tade down in the first get extra picks this year, and Draft Jake Mathews around 20.
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Thought he was stayin for another year
January 7th, 2013 at 6:44 pm
Evening RDR.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:45 pm
Lol lefty. True. So true.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:46 pm
John David Booty Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 6:23 pm
Nick Saban RUNS the NCAA. Gotta just give him his credit. Alabama is a major dynasty. Thats what great coaches do.
Sucks on Sundays watching guys like Dennis Allen, who you know will NEVER produce a winner.
ND is ALWAYS overrated. People still giving them shine off of the past. Theyve never been dominant in my lifetime. Time to face the facts.
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Well, THIS GAME was the chance to prove they weren’t overrated.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:46 pm
It sounds like the “hit” would be just over 1 million a yr. for the next 5. That’s nothing in the grand scheme.
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I think it accelerates once he leaves, it will all go against the cap for next year like 5 mil
January 7th, 2013 at 6:46 pm
3rd and 3 and THAT is the play they decide to go with?
Is Knapp the new OC at ND?
January 7th, 2013 at 6:46 pm
Only $6.57 million of Seymour’s $37 million “extension” will be paid him now that he’s a free agent.
This is like watching Pryor at QB.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:47 pm
except they haven’t blocked a punt and put him inside the opponent 10 for the easy TD
January 7th, 2013 at 6:48 pm
shoots the gap…missed the tackle.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:48 pm
no, the $6.57 million bonus will be spread over the life of the fake extension – 5 years.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:48 pm
realtruraider Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 6:46 pm
It sounds like the “hit” would be just over 1 million a yr. for the next 5. That’s nothing in the grand scheme.
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I think it accelerates once he leaves, it will all go against the cap for next year like 5 mil
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Ok. That’s the number I had originally thought. I forgot about the accelaration aspect.
Better than 15 mill.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:48 pm
Alex7 Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 6:48 pm
no, the $6.57 million bonus will be spread over the life of the fake extension – 5 years.
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Exactly. If we’d cut him, then it would all come due immediately. But his contract expired instead.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:50 pm
jackasspuria Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 6:31 pm
John David Booty
True, true. Saban is a collegiate master.
Wanted to see him tough it out in the NFL and see if he could win the big prize.
Perhaps seeing Carroll do his thing in Seattle will give Saban the itch to once again go to the NFL.
I mean, come on. Saban knows he is a better coach than Carroll. There’s got to be a an inkling he can do better than Pete has done.
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Oh, yeah, I think Saban will try the NFL again. And when he does, he’ll demand way more juice this time around. He’ll want personnell control, and he’ll get it. Right situation comes along, I think he’ll jump. Like say Jerry Jones trying to throw a check his way.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:50 pm
just remember Reggie is infinity squared smarter than us when it comes to football business
January 7th, 2013 at 6:50 pm
alex7 Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 6:48 pm
no, the $6.57 million bonus will be spread over the life of the fake extension – 5 years.
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Okay. I’m confused again. SO you’re saying a little over a mill. for the next 5 right?
January 7th, 2013 at 6:50 pm
Dr_robert Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 6:43 pm
First of all the “questionable competition” argument is dumb. Look at their sked. It’s a solid one. Teo has not had an impact. But neither has the entire nd defense, which will put most of its starters into the nfl. Alabama has been dominant for a quarter and a half. Big deal. It’s about a body of work. Many of u guys just swing way too wildly on everything u see. U would make horrible coaches or talent evaluators. Ur just average wishy washy fans.
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There you go again saying their schedule is solid…Fu**king hilarious.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:50 pm
Another missed tackle…but he’s a leader!!!!!!!!!
January 7th, 2013 at 6:51 pm
Man, putting Te’O latest missed tackle on replay in slow mo… yikes!
January 7th, 2013 at 6:51 pm
So I want to understand. Manti teo. Player of the year. Has “failed” in a half. But Pryor somehow “shined”. That’s what ur saying? That’s what I’m dealing with?
January 7th, 2013 at 6:51 pm
man te’o is costing himself sooo much money…
January 7th, 2013 at 6:51 pm
Naw he will count 5mil against cap
January 7th, 2013 at 6:51 pm
realtruraider Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 6:44 pm
The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 6:37 pm
Good evenin Alex, S Bush, Lefty, Duck, NATION!!
Tade down in the first get extra picks this year, and Draft Jake Mathews around 20.
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Thought he was stayin for another year
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Whether this year or next, Matthews wont make it out of the top 15. Maybe 12.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:52 pm
Te’O draft stock is taking a huge hit, and I made a stupid bet on this effin’ team!
January 7th, 2013 at 6:52 pm
manassamauler Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 12:19 pm
gonna go 16-0 next year and win the superbowl once we get an offense made for just for pryor. thats why he didn’t throw for 500 yards and 5 TDs against SD. its cuz the offense wasn’t made for him. once we make an O for pryor he’ll throw for 6ooo yards, rush for 1000 and throw 55 tds. wave of the future is the pistol O. teams will never figure it out. wave of the future
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Right. Like maybe the triple option?
January 7th, 2013 at 6:52 pm
Long live the rebelion!
January 7th, 2013 at 6:53 pm
yeah DJ.
Because he wasn’t cut. His contract ran out but the Raiders picked the maximum number of years you can spread a new bonus into (five years).
January 7th, 2013 at 6:53 pm
One could point out the long bowl season layoff Manti and the Notre Dame defense had, but, Alabama went through that same layoff and they are firing on all cylinders.
Can’t go with the lack of live game action reasoning with the Irish.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:53 pm
There you go Teo…a solo tackle…congratulations.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:53 pm
Yes dummy. Their sked was solid. Easily. Lots of ranked teams cb if conferences. Oklahoma. Michigan. Michigan state. USC. Stanford. U guys are like laughing hyenas. Embarrassing.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:53 pm
OL! OL! OL!
January 7th, 2013 at 6:53 pm
http://blog.sfgate.com/raiders/2012/12/10/richard-seymour-free-agent-at-seasons-end-returns-to-practice/
January 7th, 2013 at 6:54 pm
Dr_robert Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 6:51 pm
So I want to understand. Manti teo. Player of the year. Has “failed” in a half. But Pryor somehow “shined”. That’s what ur saying? That’s what I’m dealing with?
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Pryor’s play was against NFL competition. Teo “player of the year”? I wonder who’s questioning that decision right now.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:55 pm
Wanna Bama put up 60+ to 0.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:56 pm
U guys don’t understand football at all. Manti teo isn’t dropping much at all. Alabama players are rising. Understand?
January 7th, 2013 at 6:56 pm
Lacy btw is the kind of RB that would be good for us. A machine with shiftiness, lateral elusiveness, and built like a tree trump that can power forward and have tacklers bounce off his legs.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:57 pm
is tarver out there coaching?
January 7th, 2013 at 6:57 pm
Shooting wrong gap, whiffing, missed tackles…..looks alot like……..
January 7th, 2013 at 6:57 pm
AJ McCarron looking nice
January 7th, 2013 at 6:57 pm
You do know youre not always right and are capable of being wrong right doc rob? Just because someone doesnt agree with you that doesnt mean theyre ignorant, stupid, or mis informed it just means they have a different perspective than you. You sound like a know it all and thats bad because know it alls are usually the ones who know nothing, because if you knew it all youd know no one knows everything… Lol smh
January 7th, 2013 at 6:57 pm
Dr_robert Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 6:53 pm
Yes dummy. Their sked was solid. Easily. Lots of ranked teams cb if conferences. Oklahoma. Michigan. Michigan state. USC. Stanford. U guys are like laughing hyenas. Embarrassing.
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Michigan & Michigan State are Big 10 frauds. USC won one more game than they lost and they beat them without their starting QB. Woopie! I said Oklahoma was a solid victory but they aren’t elite. Stanford is their best win, WHERE they needed a ref’s call.
That schedule ain’t crap. ND is a .500 team in the SEC…book it!
January 7th, 2013 at 6:58 pm
Michigan is 8-5 and ranked because…they’re Michigan.
Michigan State is unranked.
USC is unranked.
Sooo, not that much of a schedule.
Peepz have a point in here.
January 7th, 2013 at 6:59 pm
this is talent vs hard workers….guess who is winning…
January 7th, 2013 at 7:00 pm
Jackie Bibby Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 6:57 pm
thats bad because know it alls are usually the ones who know nothing, because if you knew it all youd know no one knows everything
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whoa hardcore wisdom.
in and out the other ear of Dr “i pretend i am a defensive coordinator and qb coach” Robert.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:00 pm
Interesting to see if Lacy will leave college early and enter the NFL draft.
He’s a junior and his name hasn’t appeared on the early entrant list.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:00 pm
Alex7 Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 6:50 pm
just remember Reggie is infinity squared smarter than us when it comes to football business
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Why? Cuz he the GM? Is that a automatic endorsement of smartness?
January 7th, 2013 at 7:02 pm
PurpleDrank81 Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 6:57 pm
AJ McCarron looking nice
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His girl is lookin really nice
http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/gallery/katherine-webb-aj-mccarron/katherine-webb-aj-mccarron-girlfriend.jpg
January 7th, 2013 at 7:02 pm
Jackasspuria Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 7:00 pm
Interesting to see if Lacy will leave college early and enter the NFL draft.
He’s a junior and his name hasn’t appeared on the early entrant list.
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He can’t declare until his season is finished.We’ll see after this game.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:02 pm
Jackie–feel free to disagree. But when people make stupid calls about players of the year “sucking”, I’m gonna call them idiots cuz they’ve earned it. What u will see from me is consistency. I understand the game and talent. I know one game doesn’t mean ur not good. And when u can’t throw, I know that too. And u will notice that most of the time, these know-very-littles call me out do they have it coming. This is for sure. I know WAY MIRE than most of the posters here.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:02 pm
. Says
I’m going with the fact McKenzie is currently employed as a general manager for an NFL team.
Plus, McKenzie has been in the business for decades.
Sure, we can agree-disagree with some of his moves, but, he’s the league and many of us in here are not.
I can crack on him all I want, but, I know I’m not going to be running a team in the NFL, like he is.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:02 pm
reggies genius comes from gbs practice squad…
January 7th, 2013 at 7:03 pm
Lefty12
Thanks!
Lacy is an absolute bowling ball out there. He’s impressive.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:04 pm
. Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 7:00 pm
Alex7 Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 6:50 pm
just remember Reggie is infinity squared smarter than us when it comes to football business
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Why? Cuz he the GM? Is that a automatic endorsement of smartness?
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No,he reads the comments on here and makes the logical conclusion.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:04 pm
Sorry GG. It’s true. But u would rather ignore a knowledgable poster that u could learn a few things from and accuse him of lying whole u spout ignorance. But I imagine they have known that about u in school for a long time v
January 7th, 2013 at 7:05 pm
Al
don’t think Alabama players work hard? Interesting.
Reggie has been in the NFL administrative side for over a decade…for a top-shelf organization…successfully. Yeah, that likely makes you pretty smart at it.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:06 pm
Btw, saying “book it” is now the official way to see when a poster probably doesn’t know much.
Book it.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:07 pm
i dont think they have to work as hard as nd players…not a knock on them just the reality, bigger, faster, stronger…
January 7th, 2013 at 7:07 pm
Lacy has to come out. Not doing so would be as bad as Montee Ball staying in Wisconsin.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:08 pm
reggie says “gut feeling” does that mean he is onto something or just hungry?
January 7th, 2013 at 7:08 pm
The_Civilian_James_Trapp, let it go, let it go, go with the flow, inhale…exhale. We’re doing good.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:09 pm
Alex7
Agree with you.
But one has to wonder if the luster of potentially winning another national championship next season draws him back?
January 7th, 2013 at 7:09 pm
Al
were they born bigger, faster, stronger? Or did they work really hard to get there?
Come on bud. Like a Saban team isn’t worked as hard as possible.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:09 pm
Al_is_theraiders
It mean’s he’s feeling hungry.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:09 pm
Teo will still be a top pick. It’s guys like lacy and mccarron who are raising their stock.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:10 pm
Man wee NEed DEE MILLINER too.. Im tired of all these left over Cornerback scrubs and lower tier talent. We need to draft someone with some 1st round or 2ndround talent.
Gosh the Raiders need so many players it aint even funny!
Trade down and get more picks. The Raiders need many PLAYERS.. not just one “player”
January 7th, 2013 at 7:11 pm
Jack
over millions of dollars? After winning 2? Risking his knees like Marcus Lattimore? Nah
January 7th, 2013 at 7:11 pm
The good news is if we suck next year, we can pick up Clowney in next year’s draft–that dude is a BEAST
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENuZHnQlqX0
January 7th, 2013 at 7:11 pm
459.lefty12 Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 6:13 pm
Jackie Bibby Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 6:08 pm
Gosh dAMn! Aj mcarron girlfriend is fine than a motherfkr llllllord! Wow
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Current Miss Alabama I believe.
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She is. She’s also an Auburn grad, which is a little controversial in those parts.
Nothing another NC couldn’t ameliorate though, I’m sure.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:12 pm
Trade DMAC draft Lacy or Stanford back STEFAN TAYLOR.
someone who can actually wiggle those hips and cut back.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:12 pm
I think ND had a pretty formidable schedule but they did squeak by a few teams…BYU, PITT and Stanford but they DID win.
The Oklahoma game was impressive imo but tonight is a huge disappointment.
Is Bama this good or is ND this overhyped?
January 7th, 2013 at 7:13 pm
Alex7
That is true. The payday is very nice, indeed.
Plus, great bringing up Lattimore.
I hope Marcus’ fellow Gamecock, Clowney, doesn’t get Lattimore-d.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:13 pm
So we could resign Seymour for whatever his true fair market value is for another year without affecting the voided contract, money due or cap in any way? I realize that’s not an attractive proposition to many, but I was wondering.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:13 pm
Gosh the Raiders need so many players it aint even funny!
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yup.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:13 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 7:08 pm
reggie says “gut feeling” does that mean he is onto something or just hungry?
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A7 thinks it means that he is smarter than any of us in here. But between you and me, I think his ‘gut feeling’ means just that. He’s hungry.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:13 pm
Hell to the NO to Teo!!!
January 7th, 2013 at 7:14 pm
yes…alex you cant teach speed…you cant grow taller…you can get bigger physique but carry very different…some people are great math guys some great musicians others arr just more athletic….1 on 1 talent wins…
January 7th, 2013 at 7:14 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 3:06 pm
Study: Racial stereotyping linked to creative stagnation
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Instead of reading the kind of study that Salon.com provides for easy reading, it’s not hard to find a quality bibliography of peer-reviewed research on population genetics,genomics, evolutionary biology, psychometrics, etc.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:14 pm
lol, Cork blockin fools on twitter cause they callin him names for tweeting this
Steve Corkran@CorkOnTheNFL
Where’s all the Manti Te’o folks? Missed tackle on that TD run not what you expect from No. 3 pick in draft. Still sold?
January 7th, 2013 at 7:14 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit
A hungry and talented young corner like Dee Milliner would be awesome in Oakland.
Like Al Davis, I love me cornerbacks and Milliner fits the bill.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:14 pm
Is Bama this good or is ND this overhyped?
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Bama is playing a pretty much perfect game. But ND does seem to be out of it’s league here.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:15 pm
jackasspuria Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 7:02 pm
. Says
I’m going with the fact McKenzie is currently employed as a general manager for an NFL team.
Plus, McKenzie has been in the business for decades.
Sure, we can agree-disagree with some of his moves, but, he’s the league and many of us in here are not.
I can crack on him all I want, but, I know I’m not going to be running a team in the NFL, like he is.
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Sometimes, we tend to give human beings too much credit, based on their “titles”. Not taking anything away from Reggie, but its not like hes any kind of genius. Hes just a guy who used to play, then started scouting, worked his way up in an organization. At the end of the day, hes just a fan of it all like the rest of us. Im not a GM or anything, but I can play along and make my own mock drafts, mock free agent signings, based on proposed cap figures, and a lot of times, I feel like my choices were better than the ones the real GM made. But it is what it is. My point is, at the end of the day, a lot of these guys you see in the league are just ordinary @ss dudes, and happen to be hired because theyve been in the “pool”. Just dont put too much trust in other human beings abilities just because theyre paid to do something. A title is just a title. Not gonna say Reggie, but we’ve all seen dumb GMs make dumb decisions. In some cases, the fans really DO know better than the ones paid to make decisions.
Sh!t, its 2013. We all have access to a lot of info. Sure, NFL coaches and GMs have access to things we dont, but at the end of the day, theyre just playing mental chess. Some human beings can do it better than others. But not all of them are NFL GMs.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:15 pm
ET-NC?
January 7th, 2013 at 7:15 pm
alex7 Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 7:07 pm
Lacy has to come out. Not doing so would be as bad as Montee Ball staying in Wisconsin.
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…or how about Matt Barkley staying on at USC?
January 7th, 2013 at 7:16 pm
Someone give me a good MLB pick worht value 2-4th round?
January 7th, 2013 at 7:17 pm
589.lefty12 Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 7:15 pm
ET-NC?
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National Championship.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:17 pm
John David Booty
That is indeed true. They found an “in” and got there.
Year two is McKenzie’s year to show the faithful he can get it done.
Year three — if he makes it there, likely he will — must be a winning season. By then, McKenzie should have a roster of his own.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:17 pm
theghostronin79 Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 2:31 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 2:27 pm
3 touchdowns.
in a Greg Knapp offense.
not dull at all – so hoping this dude shuts up the haters next season
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RaiderSam, plus he converted 53% of 3rd downs.
Palmer converted 35%
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I thought you weren’t impressed with TP?
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He wasn’t/isn’t. He just doesn’t like for someone he assumes is non-black to criticize the kid’s performance or question, even a bit, his intellectual capacity. That can only be done by the select.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:18 pm
Raidersallday
I’m glad you realize why we were 4-12. Players. Lots of them. 10-year draft drought.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:18 pm
Hear that Chubby? Urban Meyer talking about SPEED making the difference
January 7th, 2013 at 7:19 pm
The_Civilian_James_Trapp
Urban Meyer brings the truth.
One of his pressers at Ohio State included this nugget when referring to one of his players…
“He doesn’t know the word fear. In fact, he doesn’t know the meaning of a lot of words. I saw his grades.”
January 7th, 2013 at 7:19 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 7:16 pm
Someone give me a good MLB pick worht value 2-4th round?
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Jon Bostic Florida, would be good value in the 4th.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:20 pm
Nd was undefeated but perhaps not as dominant as most undefeated teams. And Alabama is very talented. They’re dominating the Irish front 7 which is amazing since all those guys are nfl players. And Brian kelly is making a classic mistake of not doing what got u there. Ignoring the run game and putting game in hands of ur freshman qb.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:20 pm
Pryor got a 7 on the Wonderlic. If you question his ability to read a D, or realize that the players are “big”, you’re obviously a racist hater who loves the 49ers and odd sexual things.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:21 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 7:13 pm
So we could resign Seymour for whatever his true fair market value is for another year without affecting the voided contract, money due or cap in any way? I realize that’s not an attractive proposition to many, but I was wondering.
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I see what you’re saying but hopefully Reggie doesn’t even consider it.
We went from a historically bad defense the first 3/4’s of the year and then for the final quarter of the season we were the # 3 defense in the league.
I don’t think it’s coincidence that Seymour (and McClain) were absent from the lineup as this improbable leap occured.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:23 pm
JDB,a couple of GM jobs are open.A few HC positions are still open.Some coordinator jobs are open.A lot of assistant jobs are still available.They are all good paying jobs.Why not apply.Just explain you know so much more than guys who have been doing it for a living for years.You are bound to get,what,ZERO interviews.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:23 pm
Green beanies absence.
Carter’s surge.
Adams and Ross in the lineup.
Those were the factors.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:26 pm
We also went man to man waay more the last few games..
January 7th, 2013 at 7:27 pm
This game is just as bad as expected huh?
January 7th, 2013 at 7:28 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 7:16 pm
Someone give me a good MLB pick worht value 2-4th round?
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Alec Ogletree. That kid balls.
Anyone else watching Te’o get EXPOSED tonight? LOL. RoMac Redux. Stay far, far away Reggie
January 7th, 2013 at 7:28 pm
man coverage…smh talent wins.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:28 pm
Jockel and Mathews have both nt delared yet and Johnny football is trying to convince them to come back for titleshot….per CBS Draft Scout….Either one is money!
January 7th, 2013 at 7:29 pm
Should have been oregon.. but they would have got beat up too.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:29 pm
604….thats why the defense was a better…
January 7th, 2013 at 7:30 pm
Damontre Moore
Star Lotulelei
Jarvis Jones
or trade down and snap up Chance Warmack or Barrett Jones who are putting on a SHOW for the NFL tonight.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:31 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 6:00 pm
GG Says:
I’m devastated by the decision from Coach Purvisman
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Jesusraiderjim led the revolt or jumped first, anyway. I suppose me posting the following is fairly damning to my defense.
“Remember the Great Ibabuzz Blog Insurrection when we all jumped back to the previous post and continued talking amongst ourselves?”
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Apparently I was easily influenced. I might say I regret my decision now in retrospect.
I should have examined all aspects of my team and the game and just had some accountability.
Should have rolled up my sleeves and went back to work. I took the cowards way out, but did it in the interest of my blog bros with smart phone LMAO.
Besides that my cap number was screwed and I had limited draft picks
January 7th, 2013 at 7:31 pm
Realtruraider Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 6:44 pm
The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 6:37 pm
Good evenin Alex, S Bush, Lefty, Duck, NATION!!
Tade down in the first get extra picks this year, and Draft Jake Mathews around 20.
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Thought he was stayin for another year
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Yeah, i think you are right.
Man I really like that guy.
We need to save up some ammo to get him next year.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:31 pm
At least Oregon would score a bit.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:31 pm
atill have the talent for man to man with chekwa but may need another press corner…
January 7th, 2013 at 7:31 pm
the only talent we added near the end of the season was the middle linebacker.. doubt he made that big of a difference all by himself.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:32 pm
SilverNBlackPA Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 7:28 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 7:16 pm
Someone give me a good MLB pick worht value 2-4th round?
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Alec Ogletree. That kid balls.
Anyone else watching Te’o get EXPOSED tonight? LOL. RoMac Redux. Stay far, far away Reggie
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Kaseem Green is also a tackling machine…always around the ball…although predominantly playing weak side…has played middle often …..
January 7th, 2013 at 7:32 pm
Jake Matthews would be a fine choice. Bookend him with Veldheer and forget about those spots for a while.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:33 pm
like when we had Nnamdi and were still terrible in pass d?
Pass D requires a successful pass-rush and flexible system to confuse legit QBs.
Doesn’t require Nnamdi and Revis at $12 million a piece.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:34 pm
Warmack,Jones….Motta,Braxton Cave…..all worthy picks….
January 7th, 2013 at 7:34 pm
BOKNOWS Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 7:28 pm
Jockel and Mathews have both nt delared yet and Johnny football is trying to convince them to come back for titleshot….per CBS Draft Scout….Either one is money!
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He is going to be great on the right side.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:35 pm
DARNELL DOCKETT@ddockett
Aye @_KatherineWebb hit me (240) 464-4150 when game over, lets go to wing stop then King of diamond,
January 7th, 2013 at 7:35 pm
This is why a college football playoff is going to be great. I hate the college presidents who blocked it for so long for selfish reasons.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:35 pm
Matthews will have the better career than Joeckel. Not a knock on Luke, I just watch Matthews and see all sorts of polish and consistency for a junior.
The man particularly bulldozes his running lanes.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:35 pm
Dr_robert Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 7:23 pm
Green beanies absence.
Carter’s surge.
Adams and Ross in the lineup.
Those were the factors.
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Go watch Chekwa the last 2 games. Why Denise & Chubby had him on the pine defies logic…Oh wait.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:36 pm
Im thinking star or jockel if we keep our pick.. 6″4 320 with a motor is hard to teach.. and a bookend ot would solve alot of probs as well.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:36 pm
agreed you need a pass rush…but i think press man gives tge rush timd to get there unlike wide open zones with a 3 step qb drop…..
January 7th, 2013 at 7:36 pm
Pastor Napoleon@napoleonkaufman
Hmmm…..Teo #3… I don’t think so. #RaiderNation
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Yep not unless we trade down
January 7th, 2013 at 7:37 pm
AJ McCarron… you lucky bastard…
http://ww3.hdnux.com/photos/13/37/32/3012286/3/628×471.jpg
January 7th, 2013 at 7:37 pm
35-0…How’s that leadership Teo?
January 7th, 2013 at 7:38 pm
SilverNBlackPA Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 7:28 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 7:16 pm
Someone give me a good MLB pick worht value 2-4th round?
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Alec Ogletree. That kid balls.
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I would expect Ogletree to go in the lst. Maybe the 2nd…..
January 7th, 2013 at 7:39 pm
realtruraider Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 7:36 pm
Pastor Napoleon@napoleonkaufman
Hmmm…..Teo #3… I don’t think so. #RaiderNation
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Yep not unless we trade down
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Yeah….WAY DOWN!!!
January 7th, 2013 at 7:39 pm
Kaufman chiming in with 20-20 retrospect. Meh.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:40 pm
with the third pick in the 2013 nfl draft…the raiders pick…(______) practice squad db from green bay….
wtf?
January 7th, 2013 at 7:40 pm
And I was crazy for questioning Te’os Lateral speed????
Chance Warmack Fan lol trade down and pick him up.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:40 pm
Blaming this game on teo is like blaming Palmer. The lack of football knowledge here amazes.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:40 pm
Dr_robert Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 7:20 pm
Nd was undefeated but perhaps not as dominant as most undefeated teams. And Alabama is very talented. They’re dominating the Irish front 7 which is amazing since all those guys are nfl players. And Brian kelly is making a classic mistake of not doing what got u there. Ignoring the run game and putting game in hands of ur freshman qb.
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Bama is puttin some ass in the kick ass. Maybe this game will force a revamp of the way this bowl game is determined. Shoulda been Oregon. So the choked against Stanford. BFD. Bama had a choke in there too. ND had a pansy schedule and barely got by at least three of them. ND sucks major balls.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:41 pm
lol jack
just remember your brain and body would get used to her, yes even her, after a few years and it’d become normal/average.
Ask Hugh Grant.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:42 pm
Mel kiper claims jax is locked onto teo with #2 pick. Days it would take injury to change it.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:42 pm
this reminds me of tarvers defense…
January 7th, 2013 at 7:42 pm
DJ Johnny, no doubt Seymour playing hurt affected our defense, but the fact that he tried is why I like him. Just wondering how much he would really command on the open market and if reasonable, if we might match it. Some think he’s milking it and made the pro bowl last year on reputation, others that he’s still a leader and dominant player when healthy. If it’s the latter and he’s used more situationally, don’t see a reason not to consider it for the right price. But then, I do like the guy and believe him when he says he’d like to retire a Raider. He knows Al is dead, so I don’t think he’s thinking he can get more money here than elsewhere.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:43 pm
Some scouts like Zeke Motta as a better overall pro prospect than Harrison Smith…#1 pick for Minn last year….per NFP.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:43 pm
Go watch Chekwa the last 2 games. Why Denise & Chubby had him on the pine defies logic…Oh wait.
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Problem is, how do defy logic when there is none to defy.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:43 pm
Nobodys blaming teo.. but his lack of speed is being exposed now that he’s playing a talented team.. not a top 3 pick
January 7th, 2013 at 7:43 pm
Saying notre dame sucks is idiotic.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:43 pm
McCarron can keep his wife. GIve me his mother: http://coedbc.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/aj-mccarron-mom-boobs-lead1.jpg
January 7th, 2013 at 7:43 pm
Alex7
Even my wife is all “damn, she’s hot” when they showed her on TV.
But you are correct. You do get used to it.
My wife is also a looker which spells doom for me.
Our daughter is the spitting image of mom… I will have fun fending off ‘boys’ when my little girl is older.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:44 pm
Not sure anyone is blaming Teo, just sayin he doesn’t look anything like a #3 overall pick tonight..you don’t agree?
January 7th, 2013 at 7:45 pm
Teo doesn’t lack speed. It’s a team game. Teo is one of 11 out there. Why is this so difficult?
January 7th, 2013 at 7:45 pm
. Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 7:43 pm
Go watch Chekwa the last 2 games. Why Denise & Chubby had him on the pine defies logic…Oh wait.
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Problem is, how do defy logic when there is none to defy.
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HAhahahaa!
January 7th, 2013 at 7:45 pm
SilverNBlackPA
Man!
Now I know why the Tide offense is playing so well!
AJ promised every offensive lineman 15 minutes with his mom!
January 7th, 2013 at 7:46 pm
It wouldn’t hurt my feelings to trade down for McCarron if he come out….
January 7th, 2013 at 7:46 pm
Teo hasn’t made many plays. They are going away from a bit. And they doing a great job of blocking. Maybe not a #3. But top 15.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:47 pm
Well I posted the links to their bios, so my comment is “awaiting moderation.” Lame.
So I’ll just repost without links and you guys can look them up if you want
Any word on OC possibilities?
Interesting name is Jeff Davidson, current Vikings o-line coach and former OC of Carolina from 2007-2010. Ran a run heavy, power oriented scheme which I know would please many here and is experiencing more of that in Minnesota
Another guy is Alex van Pelt, currently Green Bay’s running backs coach. He has a wide variety of experience everywhere and I think has earned a shot
January 7th, 2013 at 7:47 pm
O Bama. Yeah.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:47 pm
Te’o has also whiffed on enough tackles that Stu Schweigert is shaking his head
January 7th, 2013 at 7:48 pm
top 15? in the third round or what?
January 7th, 2013 at 7:48 pm
SilverNBlackPA
Alex Van Pelt! I remember watching him quarterback the Bills long, long ago.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:48 pm
656…lol….classic
January 7th, 2013 at 7:49 pm
congrats Jack on both accounts.
SnB, Green Bay’s RB coach? What exactly does he do? Blitz pick-ups 24/7? =)
January 7th, 2013 at 7:49 pm
Teo has just left the room, there’s no way his worth an overall #3.
I say that if someone wants him that high, trade the pick and load up on picks.
I’d rather take Kiko Alonso from Oregon and the Central Coast (Los Gatos), at a lower round.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:50 pm
SilverNBlackPA Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 7:47 pm
Te’o has also whiffed on enough tackles that Stu Schweigert is shaking his head
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Thought same thing about Derick Gibson
January 7th, 2013 at 7:50 pm
I give Alabama credit. I also think Brian kelly played scared. No theo riddick. No Cierre wood. But seriously, it’s more about an experienced great team coming out and firing on all cylinders.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:51 pm
SnB, Green Bay’s RB coach? What exactly does he do? Blitz pick-ups 24/7? =)
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Haha, I had the same thought but he’s done a lot of stuff coaching QBs and WRs and now RBs all over the league. I think he might be a hidden gem.
Or he could suck too, you never know
January 7th, 2013 at 7:51 pm
Dr_robert Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 7:43 pm
Saying notre dame sucks is idiotic.
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Doesn’t excuse the fact that they still suck.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:52 pm
I don’t know who is tracking our picks for this years draft but put me down for Chance Warmack. Been watching him all year….dude is a beast!
January 7th, 2013 at 7:52 pm
its not teos fault that they’re losing the game but I’m pretty sure he’s not gonna be the first inside linebacker drafted.. maybe he’ll run fast at the combine and change some people’s minds.. cuz he looks kind of slow on tape
January 7th, 2013 at 7:53 pm
When he was a player with the Buffalo Bills, Van Pelt was coached by some very accomplished coaches.
And like SilverNBlackPA said, he’s been on several staffs to date.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:53 pm
Dennis Allen Alma Matter the real nation champs?? TEXAS AM
Johnny Football beat them in bama
January 7th, 2013 at 7:53 pm
I would encourage all of you to check out this updated player rankings chart at CBS Draft Scout….pretty insightful…..
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings
January 7th, 2013 at 7:53 pm
realtruraider Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 7:36 pm
Pastor Napoleon@napoleonkaufman
Hmmm…..Teo #3… I don’t think so. #RaiderNation
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Interesting. He still works for the Raiders, doesn’t he?
We pick third overall and could concieveably trade out of that spot if someone expressed interest. Don’t imagine RM would be too thrilled with a Raider employee saying something like that publicly.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:53 pm
What’s up,:mrgreen:?
January 7th, 2013 at 7:54 pm
I mean,
?
January 7th, 2013 at 7:54 pm
Yeah. 12-1 sucks. Yep. Morons thrive here.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:54 pm
PurpleDrank81 Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 7:40 pm
And I was crazy for questioning Te’os Lateral speed????
Chance Warmack Fan lol trade down and pick him up.
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Actually Barrett Jones seems to me to be the better player. They are basically the same size and Jones played LT last year for their National Championship team. He has played three positions on their Oline and won national Championships each time. Kid is just a winner.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:54 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 7:53 pm
Dennis Allen Alma Matter the real nation champs?? TEXAS AM
Johnny Football beat them in bama
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And Florida beat them in College Station.
And Louisville beat Florida in Florida (or a stadium in Florida, anyway)
Maybe mistic is right and Teddy Bridgewater is the greatest QB in college and the Cards are the true national champions!
January 7th, 2013 at 7:55 pm
BTW, Barrett Jones is playing center for the uninitiated.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:55 pm
Reggie McKenzie says he loves his draft picks.
Trading down could get him more.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:55 pm
Dr_robert Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 7:46 pm
Teo hasn’t made many plays. They are going away from a bit. And they doing a great job of blocking. Maybe not a #3. But top 15.
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Please, they just ran right at him again…Maybe not at #3? Is that even a debate at this point?
January 7th, 2013 at 7:56 pm
PurpleDrank81 Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 7:40 pm
And I was crazy for questioning Te’os Lateral speed????
Chance Warmack Fan lol trade down and pick him up.
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Actually Barrett Jones seems to me to be the better player. They are basically the same size and Jones played LT last year for their National Championship team. He has played three positions on their Oline and won national Championships each time. Kid is just a winner.
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Warmack as 20 lbs on Jones…….
January 7th, 2013 at 7:56 pm
There is something other than national champs or suck. But not here. This board only knows “dumb fan” speak.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:56 pm
The Bengals’ Rey Maualuga was slow in the loss to the Texans.
Notre Dame’s Manti Te’O appears slower in this loss to Alabama.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:57 pm
edward teach Says:
Don’t imagine RM would be too thrilled with a Raider employee saying something like that publicly.
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He hired him, I think.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:57 pm
Bama should be known as Running Back “U”!!!!
January 7th, 2013 at 7:57 pm
San Jose State would have given Alabama a better fight!
January 7th, 2013 at 7:58 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 7:53 pm
What’s up,:mrgreen:?
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Just enjoying O Bama beating the ass off the retreating Irish Mr P/I
just enjoying it very much thank you.
January 7th, 2013 at 7:58 pm
The last thing we need is another SLOW MLB!
January 7th, 2013 at 7:58 pm
And Florida beat them in College Station.
And Louisville beat Florida in Florida (or a stadium in Florida, anyway)
Maybe mistic is right and Teddy Bridgewater is the greatest QB in college and the Cards are the true national champions!
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Ya but Texas AM beat them straight up on a sat night in bama. Beat the best team in the nation.
Johnny Football
January 7th, 2013 at 7:59 pm
662.BOKNOWS Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 7:50 pm
SilverNBlackPA Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 7:47 pm
Te’o has also whiffed on enough tackles that Stu Schweigert is shaking his head
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Thought same thing about Derick Gibson
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Stiff arm Eugene is even pissed!!!
January 7th, 2013 at 8:00 pm
Beach Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 7:58 pm
The last thing we need is another SLOW MLB!
….that can’t tackle
January 7th, 2013 at 8:00 pm
New rule………Worst pro team each year plays Alabama in futures game……
January 7th, 2013 at 8:01 pm
January 7th, 2013 at 8:02 pm
Blog insurrection? Someone give me the cliff’s notes version?
January 7th, 2013 at 8:02 pm
Teo is having a sub par game. It happens. Their whole team is. But he will be a pro bowler.
January 7th, 2013 at 8:02 pm
Im not saying a good pick at 3 .. but he is projected a top 10 pick b4 tonights game and he could go 6th to the Lions.
But I wouldnt even be mad at taking Dee Milliner. Shut down corners dont come around to often. You would have him for at least the next 5 years
January 7th, 2013 at 8:03 pm
683.Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 7:57 pm
edward teach Says:
Don’t imagine RM would be too thrilled with a Raider employee saying something like that publicly.
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He hired him, I think.
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I think you’re right. Don’t know what the Reverend was thinking on that one.
Regardless of how you view him yourself, somebody might think he’s the next Ray Lewis and might be willing to trade up to get him.
Telling the world that you don’t think he’s worth the third pick in the draft is something you just don’t do.
January 7th, 2013 at 8:03 pm
Dynasty.. gross
January 7th, 2013 at 8:03 pm
I bet Cincinnati wishin they had Palmer back after watching dalton choke off offense in Houston again
January 7th, 2013 at 8:03 pm
As long as I’m here, I will always call idiots and morons idiots and morons until they stop being idiots and morons.
January 7th, 2013 at 8:03 pm
goldenstate Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 7:59 pm
662.BOKNOWS Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 7:50 pm
SilverNBlackPA Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 7:47 pm
Te’o has also whiffed on enough tackles that Stu Schweigert is shaking his head
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Thought same thing about Derick Gibson
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Stiff arm Eugene is even pissed!!!
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And Giordano is smoking hot!!
January 7th, 2013 at 8:04 pm
Gonna eat. I’ll be back and see how civil we’ve all been.
January 7th, 2013 at 8:04 pm
How bad is this BCS title game?
I’m now watching Monday Night Raw to see The Rock return…
January 7th, 2013 at 8:04 pm
I suggested milliner for a while now. Trade down to around 9.
January 7th, 2013 at 8:06 pm
if you look slow in college won’t you look slow against the pros?
January 7th, 2013 at 8:06 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 8:01 pm
It’s been a great blog day. Had an insurrection this morning and it’s been almost free of insults and disparaging remarks about morons and idiots and such. Almost, cough, ahem, cough, almost.
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Gotcha. I did notice over the week end that a little more than usual mud slinging was occurring. But better in here than on the streets. It’s gonna be a long off season
January 7th, 2013 at 8:06 pm
694.dr_robert Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 8:02 pm
Teo is having a sub par game. It happens. Their whole team is. But he will be a pro bowler.
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first time seeing him play…. doesnt look good….
saw some of his highlights on you tube also not impressed……
January 7th, 2013 at 8:07 pm
or if u trade down that Barret Jones a mauler and pick up a 2nd and hope Xavier Rhodes is still there
January 7th, 2013 at 8:07 pm
Lacy = Beast Mode 2.0
January 7th, 2013 at 8:07 pm
I took the over in the 2nd half. 1 more TD and my pain is erased. Come on Bama, make it 42-7!
January 7th, 2013 at 8:07 pm
Running right at teo..
January 7th, 2013 at 8:08 pm
Watched him play 50 times. He’s good.
January 7th, 2013 at 8:08 pm
this nd is a good example of what reggies plan is for the raiders…good but not good enough…
January 7th, 2013 at 8:08 pm
zone defense…lol just got to laugh.
January 7th, 2013 at 8:09 pm
I suppose nix and tuitt and shembo all suck.
January 7th, 2013 at 8:09 pm
Teo may be very good, but I would not touch him at # 3 in a million years!
January 7th, 2013 at 8:09 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 3:55 pm
Scourge Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 3:52 pm
Beeech, I think old Marie Kane is on Kell’s *ss to make cold calls tryin to sell that listing he’s had for so long.
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I sold that in November. Thanks.
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http://kaneandassociatesrealtors.com/default.asp.f-listings_byagent.agentid-9788
You are such a liar.
You had no listings in the last 15 months except that one shack, that still remains unsold.
Why do you lie?
January 7th, 2013 at 8:09 pm
beach Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 8:07 pm
I took the over in the 2nd half. 1 more TD and my pain is erased. Come on Bama, make it 42-7!
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Done!
January 7th, 2013 at 8:10 pm
Thank god for this game.. i was afraid we might take slo part 2..
January 7th, 2013 at 8:11 pm
I think Teo is also a scheme player….needs great players in front of him to excel….
January 7th, 2013 at 8:11 pm
I suppose teo was responsible for that td. Sometimes what is focused on here boggles the mind.
January 7th, 2013 at 8:11 pm
Reggie should have taken a chance on Vontaze Burfict instead we got Nathan Stupar
January 7th, 2013 at 8:13 pm
i hope in the end we resemble the seahawks…that teams awesome
January 7th, 2013 at 8:14 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 8:11 pm
Reggie should have taken a chance on Vontaze Burfict instead we got Nathan Stupar
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TRUTH!!
January 7th, 2013 at 8:15 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit
I agree McKenzie should have taken a chance on Burfict, but 30 other personnel men also whiffed on Vontaze.
January 7th, 2013 at 8:15 pm
And why do you still have that Uncle Tom goofyass Uncle Herman picture from the 70’s?
C’mon Kell. You look like a goober from Idaho.
January 7th, 2013 at 8:15 pm
720.dr_robert Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 8:11 pm
I suppose teo was responsible for that td. Sometimes what is focused on here boggles the mind.
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you dint know he is also resposible for the nomination of Brennan as director of the Central Intelligence Agency…………….
January 7th, 2013 at 8:15 pm
forget this watching cain velasquez beat down dos santos again…
January 7th, 2013 at 8:15 pm
Dr_robert Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 8:03 pm
As long as I’m here, I will always call idiots and morons idiots and morons until they stop being idiots and morons.
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Why? I’m new in here. Just tryin to get the hang of things. Beeech Dawg told me about this blog when I met him I’m Maui. So I wanna join in.
January 7th, 2013 at 8:16 pm
the big run right before the touchdown was right at teo… his speed has been noticed by draft watchers all yr.. not a top pick… but nobody’s blaming 1 man for the entire game
January 7th, 2013 at 8:16 pm
721.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 8:11 pm
Reggie should have taken a chance on Vontaze Burfict instead we got Nathan Stupar
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I’ve seen a couple of posts talking about how the Riaders should have drafted Burfict and should sign Maualaga this offseason.
Don’t know if any of you watched their playoff game against the Texans or not. I did. No thanks to either one.
January 7th, 2013 at 8:17 pm
sooooo..who’s our new OC?
anyone I know?
January 7th, 2013 at 8:17 pm
718. Yes, one good thing about Notre Dame in this game. Too bad our old owner did not realize that when JaCarcass beat them down a few years back! Notre Dame is a zero compared to SEC teams.
January 7th, 2013 at 8:18 pm
I’ve seen a couple of posts talking about how the Riaders should have drafted Burfict and should sign Maualaga this offseason.
Don’t know if any of you watched their playoff game against the Texans or not. I did. No thanks to either one.
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for a throwaway pick like a 7th rounder?? its not much
January 7th, 2013 at 8:18 pm
Michael Huff@Huffy247
I’m about watch the Texas vs USC national championship game from 05 if anybody wants to come to my watch party.
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January 7th, 2013 at 8:19 pm
Dr_Robert, please tell me you don’t think Teo has had a good game? Please?
January 7th, 2013 at 8:20 pm
720.dr_robert Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 8:11 pm
I suppose teo was responsible for that td. Sometimes what is focused on here boggles the mind.
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you dint know he is also resposible for the nomination of Brennan as director of the Central Intelligence Agency…………….
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also invovled in the cyanide poisoning of that million doller lottery winner…………
January 7th, 2013 at 8:20 pm
733.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 8:18 pm
I’ve seen a couple of posts talking about how the Riaders should have drafted Burfict and should sign Maualaga this offseason.
Don’t know if any of you watched their playoff game against the Texans or not. I did. No thanks to either one.
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Good point. Not a lot to risk there.
Maybe he’ll get better, but I sure wouldn’t want to have to rely on him at this point. Both he and Maualaga he got punked in that playoff game.
January 7th, 2013 at 8:20 pm
Hey Doctor…Simple question, would you even consider Teo in the top 5? And why he should he even be considered in the top 20? What is so special about him?
January 7th, 2013 at 8:21 pm
SilverNBlackPA Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 7:54 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 7:53 pm
Dennis Allen Alma Matter the real nation champs?? TEXAS AM
Johnny Football beat them in bama
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And Florida beat them in College Station.
And Louisville beat Florida in Florida (or a stadium in Florida, anyway)
Maybe mistic is right and Teddy Bridgewater is the greatest QB in college and the Cards are the true national champions!
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Bridgewater will be EXPOSED just like RG3 was.
For RG3 the gig is up. I know football.
Shanahan did as much as he could for the young charlatan with trickery and slight of hand, but the magic show is over, and it leaves a disappointed audience in its wake.
A hobbled and injury proned rookie was finally brought tumbling down to earth in a horrific display of ineptitude. Shocked fans awoke from their coma’s and saw what we all knew would eventually happen; a young QB EXPOSED.
In what will most assuredly be called the worst acquisition in league history the Deadskins gave up a kings ransom for a peasents production and a glorified magic show.
Oh the tricks were carefully executed but in the end..like all magic shows…it was all an illusion and a fledgling franchise paid the price.
Bridgewater will be prove to be just another trickster who has already fooled many , but the curtain will fall soon enough and tomatoes will be tossed in disgust at his circus of illusion.
Look for players like Taylor Kelly from ASU and Kolton Browning from La Monroe and a kid from La Tech named Colby Cameron to emerge as the true stars of the underclass.
All 3 have great smarts and breathtaking athletic ability to go along with such underrated intangibles like “heart” that you just don’t see with the fakers.
No matter how many tricks Bilgewater has up his sleeve, like any bad circus sideshow it will summarily dismissed and EXPOSED in due time.
January 7th, 2013 at 8:21 pm
Id rather draft star so the lbs behind him can look talented.. as opposed to drafting teo and blaming all the players around him..
January 7th, 2013 at 8:21 pm
Oakglen Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 8:17 pm
sooooo..who’s our new OC?
anyone I know?
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Knapp. At least that is what my insider told me.
January 7th, 2013 at 8:21 pm
Vontaze was actually a suprise this season for the bengals lead the team in tackles.. had 16 tackles in a win a few weeks ago.
compared with Omar gaither who is an old vet. Would have been decent
January 7th, 2013 at 8:22 pm
Those videos of these yuppie bandwagon football fans gets old. I wonder why they never put a camera in my basement showing dropping f-bombs all day.
January 7th, 2013 at 8:23 pm
Amazing Spider-Man, you sound like Ian85. Just sayin.
January 7th, 2013 at 8:25 pm
Hopefully Reggie gets luck and uses a 3rd rounder on Manti
January 7th, 2013 at 8:25 pm
TUCHDOWNNNN ND yeah lets go……oh wait never mind……
January 7th, 2013 at 8:26 pm
Alabama is a dynasty. ND is a whinesty.
January 7th, 2013 at 8:26 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 8:11 pm
Reggie should have taken a chance on Vontaze Burfict instead we got Nathan Stupar
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Marvin Lewis handed him to Mike Zimmer and Zimmer did not want to baby sit him. But to Bruficts credit he did what Lewis and Zimmer asked him, and has been a solid citizen. If he would have come here, he would have been best friends with McLame and they would both be in prison by now and the org would be in shambles. The org doesn’t want guys like that, and we don’t need guys like that.
January 7th, 2013 at 8:27 pm
742.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 8:21 pm
Vontaze was actually a suprise this season for the bengals lead the team in tackles.. had 16 tackles in a win a few weeks ago.
compared with Omar gaither who is an old vet. Would have been decent
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That’s a lot of tackles, and I’ll admit I only saw him play a few times. I just wasn’t impressed when I did see him play, and the Texans were clearly running at both he and Maualuga in that game, ostensibly because they saw a weakness there.
I’m a little skeptical about tackle stats, to be honest. Kirk Morrison made a lot of tackles too, but he was maybe the worst middle linebacker against the run I’ve ever seen, and I’m not exaggerating when I say that.
January 7th, 2013 at 8:27 pm
Wow.
January 7th, 2013 at 8:28 pm
Prima Dona head case.
January 7th, 2013 at 8:28 pm
What caused the push and shove there a few minutes ago between McCarron and his center?
January 7th, 2013 at 8:29 pm
yeah I was told we would start interviewing people once the wild card round ended, but I still haven’t heard our name come up with any potential coaches
January 7th, 2013 at 8:31 pm
jackasspuria Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 8:28 pm
What caused the push and shove there a few minutes ago between McCarron and his center?
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Ego’s. Jones is making line calls and mcCarron decides to make the line calls.
January 7th, 2013 at 8:33 pm
I used to read these exact same type of interviews in the offseason of 2010, the backup trying to sell us on his leadership and rah-rah intangibles.
TP = Bruce Gradkowski
Do I go all-in again, with the noodle-armed rah-rah, Heart of Lion guy?
Why Not……Go TP; Can Carson!!
(And draft Aaron Murray)
January 7th, 2013 at 8:34 pm
Anyone here honestly think Manti will drop to the mid 2nd round / 3rd round??
January 7th, 2013 at 8:37 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit
Manti will still be a first round pick. Mid to late.
January 7th, 2013 at 8:38 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 8:34 pm
Anyone here honestly think Manti will drop to the mid 2nd round / 3rd round??
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I honestly wouldn’t be shocked.
January 7th, 2013 at 8:39 pm
I just got done with a 5 hour drive to El Paso, and had time to mold the outlines to the great draft rejuvenation tour of 2013.
-1st round: Draft Aaron Murray. Trade down if need be, or just screw it and take him #3. We need a rocket-armed youngster, and he is the guy.
-Trade 3rd round pick and Jacoby Ford to Minny for late 2nd and draft the Honey Badger. Someone who can return punts and kicks is EASILY one of the biggest disadvantages we face week to week, going on years in a row now. Anything he provides defensively is a bonus. Ford is toast anyways.
-4th round: John Jenkins, NT, Georgia. Off field and weight issues will scare teams off, but he is a top 50 talent, IMO. NT of the future.
-Will figure the others later, but with one of our 7th rounders, draft P Taylor Accardi. Nothing wrong with letting a 7th rounder and UDFA (King) duke it out,with the best man winning. Accardi had a higher net than King had average last year in D-II, and leads the league again this year.
Best year ever!!!
January 7th, 2013 at 8:40 pm
755.Just Fire Baby Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 8:33 pm
I used to read these exact same type of interviews in the offseason of 2010, the backup trying to sell us on his leadership and rah-rah intangibles.
TP = Bruce Gradkowski
Do I go all-in again, with the noodle-armed rah-rah, Heart of Lion guy?
Why Not……Go TP; Can Carson!!
(And draft Aaron Murray)
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Gonna have to wait ’til 2014 for that one. Murray’s going back to UGA.
That actually works out well for us, I think. We absolutely can’t spend a high pick on a QB this year (and that’s ok, because the class isn’t that good).
Unless Pryor shows a whole lot of improvement in the passing game between now and next year there’s no way he’s going to be the starter, and another year behind Palmer (and playing more) SHOULD provide enough information to decide whether he’s the guy going forward of if we need to draft someone. The class in ‘14 will be a lot better, so the timing is good.
January 7th, 2013 at 8:41 pm
I remember a kid named Adrian Peterson flopping in his last college bowl game, in a humiliating loss to Boise State.
Te’O will be fine in the draft. Top 10 is still a very likely scenario.
January 7th, 2013 at 8:42 pm
Gonna have to wait ’til 2014 for that one. Murray’s going back to UGA.
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Jezus A Cripes!!!!
The tour is not off to the best start, lol.
OK…….Plan B will be hatched on the drive home.
January 7th, 2013 at 8:45 pm
The Manti Te’o stock is about to plummet. Bad game today on the big stage against the closest thing to pros college has to offer, from a physicality standpoint. And the combine will expose the ND media guide by posting his real height of 5′11” or 6′.
January 7th, 2013 at 8:45 pm
Manti Te’o didn’t exactly light them up tonight. I imagine his stock has fallen significantly. Probably still 1st round based on character, etc. but tonight we got to see how he does with the BIG kids. He had more misses out there than McCheese. Actually one could make a case that tonight was his interpretation of what SloLando looks like playing MLB. Truth be told the ND defense looked more like Oakland’s on a bad day. Somehow, I’m not seeing Reggie puling out a slip with Manti’s name on it.
January 7th, 2013 at 8:46 pm
Screw it, draft 5 SEC players this year……just no natives of the great state of Alabama.
January 7th, 2013 at 8:48 pm
Last year’s last place team was considered the winner of the Luck Bowl. Next season’s loser will be the winner of the Clowney Bowl.
January 7th, 2013 at 8:50 pm
This BCS is such a crock of dog poop.
At least with a playoff system, you might still get a championship stinker, but you will probably at least get one really, really good semi-final game.
Instead, every year, we wait 5 weeks for a laugher.
January 7th, 2013 at 8:50 pm
Teo didn’t have a good game. No one on nd did except maybe tj jones. But if ur stupid enuff to think a guy goes from consensus top 5 pick to 2nd or 3rd round based on one subpar game and it “wouldn’t surprise you” then u don’t anything about talent evaluation.
January 7th, 2013 at 8:53 pm
Strader–I don’t know I are but one thing I’m sure of. Beech has never been to Maui.
January 7th, 2013 at 8:55 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 8:50 pm
This BCS is such a crock of dog poop.
At least with a playoff system, you might still get a championship stinker, but you will probably at least get one really, really good semi-final game.
Instead, every year, we wait 5 weeks for a laugher.
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Agreed, and rankings are based on people’s opinions and computer rankings that use someone’s opinions on how teams are ranked.
Proving it on the field (playoffs) is just too crazy of an idea i guess
January 7th, 2013 at 8:57 pm
The biggest blunder Brian Kelly made was benching Tommy Riis in lieu of Everett Golson. A critical error that cost a fabled university a national championship.
Riis’s passing ability is far superior to Golson and that ability was needed against a staunch Alabama defense.
What we did see was the emergence of a national treasue by the name of AJ McCarron. Unheralded, dismissed as a by product of an otherwise great football team, AJ proved once again he is FOR REAL.
Never mentioned among the greats of college football, eyes were opened to a young man with great character and superior smarts.
Cheers young man. You’ve electrified a nation.
January 7th, 2013 at 8:58 pm
Unless Pryor shows a whole lot of improvement in the passing game between now and next year there’s no way he’s going to be the starter, and another year behind Palmer (and playing more) SHOULD provide enough information to decide whether he’s the guy going forward of if we need to draft someone. The class in ‘14 will be a lot better, so the timing is good.
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Pryor looked great to me, and the reviews support that. Don’t know what you were watching, Ed.
January 7th, 2013 at 8:58 pm
CJ Moseley looks like Ocho Cinco on steroids…..
January 7th, 2013 at 8:58 pm
I see Te’o being picked between the 9-14 pick
January 7th, 2013 at 8:59 pm
Ok, Ed, I misread your post.
January 7th, 2013 at 8:59 pm
PurpleDrank81 Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 8:58 pm
I see Te’o being picked between the 9-14 pick
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Thats sounds about right. I’m thinking 10-20
January 7th, 2013 at 8:59 pm
765.Just Fire Baby Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 8:46 pm
Screw it, draft 5 SEC players this year……just no natives of the great state of Alabama.
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Yeah you right. Aaron Murray. Eddie Lacy (from Louisiana) and 3 LSU Tigers. Honey Badger included.
January 7th, 2013 at 9:01 pm
Pastor Napoleon @napoleonkaufman
Hmmm…..Teo #3… I don’t think so. #RaiderNation
January 7th, 2013 at 9:01 pm
Post 739 so because a guy had a tough go while playing with a partially torn acl he cant play in your eyes??? That explains why you threw in the quote “I know football” because you know after a dumb statement like that people would question your football Iq or if you knew anything about football at all. Yes Rg3 had a bad game but it was because he played with 1 leg, he couldt plant or step into his throws so he had an off day big deal the kid still has game. Any qb would have struggled in those circumstances… And pocket qbs get injured just the same as scrambling qbs, Manning missed a year with a neck injury, Brady missed nearly an entire season with a knee injury, Brees ended up in Nola because he had gotten injured in sd and they thought he was done, Carson injured his knee a few years ago and got injured again this year…. So dont talk as if only qbs who are running threats are susceptible to injury because pocket qbs are too and they happen to the best.of them. In the nfl all players are at risk of injury no matter what position you play kickers included. Rg3 is a stud and theres no doubt about that.
January 7th, 2013 at 9:03 pm
504,
Got to appease all the semi’s who plea annually for line help in the draft, and look at big Jenkins from Georgia as well.
January 7th, 2013 at 9:03 pm
Teo to the Raiders: NEVER!
January 7th, 2013 at 9:06 pm
The raiders will have another down season next year and I think we will be in play for clowney. Cant wait (bart scott voice)!
January 7th, 2013 at 9:06 pm
In IR’GIII’s last 18 possible games (including his last college game) he has missed 1 game and not been able to finish 4 others.
That’s almost 30% of the games, with two concussions and now a blown out knee.
His career has peaked, damn shame because he is such a good kid, but he will be a story of what could have been.
January 7th, 2013 at 9:06 pm
779…
Agreed Spiderman’s post was completely out of line, but scrambling qb’s who rely too much on running do tend to get hurt to often.
I put the blame on shanarat. You can’t expect a guy built like RG3, vick etc..to continue to scramble around and overuse their athletic ability. The body will run down. RG3 deserved to be put in a better position than running the option offense the majority of the time. The guy can throw and is accurate. To put him in a gimmick offense not only keeps him from getting better but puts him in a position to get hurt.
You can be a scrambling qb, but you can’t rely that much on your legs.
January 7th, 2013 at 9:08 pm
Teo looks small too.. i thought he was just slow..
January 7th, 2013 at 9:08 pm
Shanahan put griffins career in jeopardy. And missdick is probably curled in a ball crying about it.
Too bad for griffin. But kinda funny about shanahan and missdick.
January 7th, 2013 at 9:09 pm
Te’o no way bro! The raiders will draft jarvis jones (top rated pass rusher, and so called von miller 2.0) just my prediction.
January 7th, 2013 at 9:10 pm
Jay Cutler had it right.
Your young, on a long term contract and the keys to the franchise are in your hand, you don’t force a knee issue.
Maybe when you are 30 something and at the end of the line.
Shanarat should have known better; IR’GIII should have known better.
Major, major panic by both of those guys.
January 7th, 2013 at 9:14 pm
Teo had 10 tacs. . Better than i thought.. 0 for a loss though.
January 7th, 2013 at 9:14 pm
Dakota,
It’s ok buddy. Don’t jump!
January 7th, 2013 at 9:15 pm
So to start next year…
1. Alabama
2. Oregon
3. A&M
January 7th, 2013 at 9:16 pm
Te’o = McClain without the attitude.
Pass on Te’o.
January 7th, 2013 at 9:16 pm
My trade down mock draft 1-4 round
1st)Chance Warmack
2nd) Aaron Murray
3rd) Andrew Jackson
4th) Devon Still
January 7th, 2013 at 9:16 pm
SAY NO TO TE’0!
January 7th, 2013 at 9:16 pm
Next year is when you want a TOP 3 pick.
Lets say the Raiders had the 2nd overall pick next year.
Clowner, Johhny Football, Teddy Bridgewater.
Clowney gone.. I’d take Johnny football
January 7th, 2013 at 9:17 pm
Skip Bayless@RealSkipBayless
Johnny Football’s legend is growing with Alabama 35, Notre Dame 0.
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At the rate Johnny Football is going OFF the field, won’t be surprised if he enters the NFL draft after 1 more sensational year, goes high.
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January 7th, 2013 at 9:17 pm
Te’o had 10 tackles but I bet 60% were assisted
January 7th, 2013 at 9:18 pm
Impact players are suppose to make plays. I still have nightmares about sir Charles killing my Buckeyes.
January 7th, 2013 at 9:20 pm
If the raiders had two number 1 picks.. Taking chance womack, Barret jones would be nice!!!
Veldehere, Wiz, Barret Jones, Chance Warmack, Kyle Long (3rd) pick.
I can dream right??
January 7th, 2013 at 9:21 pm
PurpleDrank81 Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 9:16 pm
My trade down mock draft 1-4 round
1st)Chance Warmack
2nd) Aaron Murray
3rd) Andrew Jackson
4th) Devon Still
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I want a NT and DE, but that’s a solid draft.
My preference:
1- DT/ NT J Hankins
2- CB Xavier Rhodes or D Amerson
3- DE/ OLB Brandon Jenkins
4- LB Andrew Jackson
January 7th, 2013 at 9:21 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 9:16 pm
Next year is when you want a TOP 3 pick.
Lets say the Raiders had the 2nd overall pick next year.
Clowner, Johhny Football, Teddy Bridgewater.
Clowney gone.. I’d take Johnny football
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Not going to happen. Johnny Football is a freshman. By rules, can’t come out until 2015 as a Junior.
January 7th, 2013 at 9:22 pm
bring back Bob Wylie, Bring back WIZ SENIOR. Power run game.
Back to the days of Art shell, Upshaw.. pound the rock!
January 7th, 2013 at 9:22 pm
Not going to happen. Johnny Football is a freshman. By rules, can’t come out until 2015 as a Junior.
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He was a redshirt fresham.. academically he is a junior. Almost ready to graduate.
He redshirt 1 year, played this year, had 1 more year left.
January 7th, 2013 at 9:23 pm
Now we know why the Wiz wanted/ had to leave. He wanted no part of this BS.
January 7th, 2013 at 9:23 pm
Aaron murray is going back to school announced yesterday night
January 7th, 2013 at 9:24 pm
The rule is 3 years removed from HS, JFF is a reshirt freshmen.
He is draft eligible after next season.
January 7th, 2013 at 9:24 pm
Id take star if we keep the pick.. 6″4 320 with a motor is tuff to find.. he would help our lbs alot. Plus he would allow us to play some 3-4. I wouldnt cry about drafting an ot instead though.
January 7th, 2013 at 9:24 pm
JB Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 9:21 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 9:16 pm
Next year is when you want a TOP 3 pick.
Lets say the Raiders had the 2nd overall pick next year.
Clowner, Johhny Football, Teddy Bridgewater.
Clowney gone.. I’d take Johnny football
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Not going to happen. Johnny Football is a freshman. By rules, can’t come out until 2015 as a Junior.
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You can declare after 3 years of college.
1st: redshirt
2nd: 2012
3rd: 2013
Can declare for the 2014 draft.
January 7th, 2013 at 9:25 pm
Post 784 yea shannan dropped the ball big time, as a coach you have to protect the players from themselves at times. After seeing Rg3 scramble for thse 8 yards I thought shannahan should have pulled him because he was limping and wincing in pain the whole way.until he got out of bounds and after how bad he looked on that roll out before the fumble and he finally went down it was pretty evident he had no buisness being out there. On top of all of that they have a capable back up in kirk cousins who proved he can win you games so there was no excuse for him to play Rg3 and put him at risk like that.. And I agree they do over use the gimmick plays because although rg3 is successful with it he can do more than just gimmick plays.
January 7th, 2013 at 9:26 pm
I meant Jordan Hill not Devon Still lol both went to PSU
January 7th, 2013 at 9:26 pm
Cork implied that Wiz left specifically because him and Frankie did not get along at all.
January 7th, 2013 at 9:27 pm
I feel bad for Dakota.
I feel your pain White Devil. lol
I have been there before.
January 7th, 2013 at 9:27 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 4:35 pm
Per Rotoworld
Raiders DT Richard Seymour’s contract will void at season’s end, and he will become an unrestricted free agent.
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Huh! I learn something every day. Kudos to McK for putting this clause in then.
Well done.
January 7th, 2013 at 9:29 pm
Why would Aaron Murray stay?? Way stronger QB competition next year… He could of snuck into the 1st this year.
January 7th, 2013 at 9:30 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 9:26 pm
Cork implied that Wiz left specifically because him and Frankie did not get along at all.
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I think we are making a mistake by keeping DA. He can’t hire a good staff, and he didn’t do anything to earn another year.
Why fire hue after going 8-8 and keep DA after 4-12?
Fire Titty Monkey!
January 7th, 2013 at 9:31 pm
Well yesterday the blog consensus was that T’eo was the greatest thing since sliced bread. You Semi GM’s are going to have to get back to work.
January 7th, 2013 at 9:32 pm
Terrel pryor is capable of doing all the same things as johnny football except Pryor is bigger faster and stronger doing it…
January 7th, 2013 at 9:32 pm
You Semi GM’s are going to have to get back to work.
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Well Ive been saying trade down.. I do all my scouting on youtube same where the Raiders found DHB lmao
January 7th, 2013 at 9:34 pm
I can’t stand Richard Seymour, that overrated POS!
January 7th, 2013 at 9:35 pm
Oakland Raiders quarterback Terrelle Pryor had a higher Wonderlic score than the seven that was reported earlier Wednesday, according to Steelers general manager Kevin Colbert, who administered the tests.
Pryor
According to Colbert, Pryor took two tests on back-to-back days in preparation for the supplemental draft.
League sources told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel on Wednesday that Pryor answered 48 out of 50 questions on his first test, but only seven of his answers were correct.
Seven is considered a very low score for all players, especially quarterbacks, on the test, which grades intelligence and speed of thought.
Colbert would not confirm the score of the first test. He said Pryor’s score on his second test was significantly improved and NFL teams used that number in making their evaluations. Colbert declined to disclose Pryor’s score on the second test.
“The report of a seven test score is erroneous,” Colbert said. “I administered both tests and I can tell you that his score was significantly higher than that. I informed all teams and scouts interested in him about the score. In scouting, we always go with the higher Wonderlic score.”
Though Wonderlic scores are considered private, Colbert said he got clearance from the NFL to reveal that Pryor’s score was better than the reported seven.
It is not uncommon for players to take the test more than once.
January 7th, 2013 at 9:38 pm
@ Raider O post 815 thats why I believe we will be in play for clowney next year. Our division is getting stronger (coaching wise) and we play some tough teams next year I see it being a repeat of this year 4 wins or less 5 if we’re lucky. We kept the clown for clowney….
January 7th, 2013 at 9:39 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 9:31 pm
Well yesterday the blog consensus was that T’eo was the greatest thing since sliced bread. You Semi GM’s are going to have to get back to work.
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ND fan here and I’ve been saying all along I wouldn’t take Te’o in the top 10. Arguably the 3rd-best player on that D. He may go in the 20s after tonight though.
January 7th, 2013 at 9:47 pm
If we didn’t trade down I’d like to see the first couple of rounds to go like this
1)Damontre Moore/Star Lotuleilei
3)Andrew Jackson
4)Jordan Hill/Kyle Long
January 7th, 2013 at 9:47 pm
I like Pryor’s attitude, hell at least he has an attitude. Better then Palmer dudes like a robot or zombie, no emotion or fire. Just the deer in a head lights look all the time.
January 7th, 2013 at 9:50 pm
JaMarcus scored like a 27 on that test.. but he was never 3/3 in the RED ZONE in one game like my dude Pryor! didnt run a 4.3 either
January 7th, 2013 at 9:51 pm
beach Says:
I can’t stand Richard Seymour, that overrated POS!
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I like him. Let’s call each other names for a couple hours, ok? Nah, let’s let it rest.
January 7th, 2013 at 9:53 pm
Eddie Lacy may be the next Marshawn lynch
January 7th, 2013 at 9:54 pm
They were talking about which HC job is the best available and i’ve heard many say it’s the Chicago job. Guys on NFLN were saying it’s becuz they “have a quarterback” in Jay Cutler, and that he is a “great talent” you can build a franchise around.
Cutler was obtained by Chi. giving up TWO (2) # 1’s AND a #3 AND a bonafide starter in Kyle Orton. TWO NUMBER 1 DRAFT PICKS AND A # 3!
Here are this franchise QB’s career stats:
Jay Cutler- TD’s 136 Int’s 100 Career rating 84.0
Carson Palmer- TD’S 189 Int’s 130 Career rating 86.2
No need to jump on and exclaim how much of a “loser” Palmer is and get all weird, the reason I post this is becuz when u look at Cutler’s body of work and then u hear how he is so lauded as this “great player’ and “franchise QB” and how Chicago is such a great gig BECUZ Cutler is the QB…it makes you shake your head, cuz if Palmer “sucks” then what does that make Cutler?
And before you say ‘yeah but Palmer is a quitter’, what would u rather have. A QB who waits till the season is over and “retires” or a QB who who bails on his team in the 2nd half of the NFC Championship game against the teams most hated rival.
Go ahead and say Palmer sucks etc. etc. but Jay Cutler is a “franchise” qb and an alluring piece for any prospective new HC?
January 7th, 2013 at 9:55 pm
Marshawn seems alil more faster but good comparison
January 7th, 2013 at 9:57 pm
Man every years its “our year” with that b.s. jay cutler talk.. dude is about on par with Carson Palmer at this point
January 7th, 2013 at 9:58 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 9:54 pm
They were talking about which HC job is the best available and i’ve heard many say it’s the Chicago job. Guys on NFLN were saying it’s becuz they “have a quarterback” in Jay Cutler, and that he is a “great talent” you can build a franchise around.
Cutler was obtained by Chi. giving up TWO (2) # 1’s AND a #3 AND a bonafide starter in Kyle Orton. TWO NUMBER 1 DRAFT PICKS AND A # 3!
Here are this franchise QB’s career stats:
Jay Cutler- TD’s 136 Int’s 100 Career rating 84.0
Carson Palmer- TD’S 189 Int’s 130 Career rating 86.2
No need to jump on and exclaim how much of a “loser” Palmer is and get all weird, the reason I post this is becuz when u look at Cutler’s body of work and then u hear how he is so lauded as this “great player’ and “franchise QB” and how Chicago is such a great gig BECUZ Cutler is the QB…it makes you shake your head, cuz if Palmer “sucks” then what does that make Cutler?
And before you say ‘yeah but Palmer is a quitter’, what would u rather have. A QB who waits till the season is over and “retires” or a QB who who bails on his team in the 2nd half of the NFC Championship game against the teams most hated rival.
Go ahead and say Palmer sucks etc. etc. but Jay Cutler is a “franchise” qb and an alluring piece for any prospective new HC?
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No doubt. Palmer is our starting QB next year. Folks in here should come to grips with that sooner rather than later.
Pryor has a good shot to elevate to the No. 2 guy and keep building upon that progress and can hopefully be the guy one day. There’s no reason to think that day has arrived yet though.
January 7th, 2013 at 9:58 pm
Btw I will say this. Tonights Championship game is the perfect point on why/how the game of football is won in the trenches.
Get me some big Fast Mobile OLINE .. / Big Dline who can get after it
January 7th, 2013 at 9:58 pm
Would love to see McKenzie find a way to draft Montee Ball or Stephan Taylor
January 7th, 2013 at 9:59 pm
Interesting tidbit on WWE Monday Night Raw just now.
The event was held in Tampa Florida and they just showed Jon Gruden in attendance with his son.
It’s probably wrong, but it was funny to hear, announcer Jerry Lawler introduces him as “the next coach for the Cleveland Browns.”
January 7th, 2013 at 9:59 pm
Jackie Bibby Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 9:38 pm
@ Raider O post 815 thats why I believe we will be in play for clowney next year. Our division is getting stronger (coaching wise) and we play some tough teams next year I see it being a repeat of this year 4 wins or less 5 if we’re lucky. We kept the clown for clowney….
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!
Down for Clown (ey).
January 7th, 2013 at 10:00 pm
Post 832 …
Very True McCarron could have written a book about his GF with all the time had behind the big uglies
January 7th, 2013 at 10:01 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 9:31 pm
Well yesterday the blog consensus was that T’eo was the greatest thing since sliced bread. You Semi GM’s are going to have to get back to work.
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Really? I haven’t seen to many “semis” wanting teo at #3, most if not all want a pass rushing OLB/DE or OT.. I myself have changed my mind already a couple times, first I wanted Werner or Moore than Jones or trade down and get Mingo.. never mentioned teo yet but if hes there in the 3rd why not
January 7th, 2013 at 10:06 pm
realtruraider Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 10:01 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 9:31 pm
Well yesterday the blog consensus was that T’eo was the greatest thing since sliced bread. You Semi GM’s are going to have to get back to work.
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Really? I haven’t seen to many “semis” wanting teo at #3, most if not all want a pass rushing OLB/DE or OT.. I myself have changed my mind already a couple times, first I wanted Werner or Moore than Jones or trade down and get Mingo.. never mentioned teo yet but if hes there in the 3rd why not
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This is true. Very true. It was a very small and diminishing number of semi-semis who were talking up Te’o at No. 3 in recent weeks. Virtually none really. I think those who were talking up Te’o were basing that strictly off media hype and a desperation for “leadership.”
January 7th, 2013 at 10:07 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 9:54 pm
They were talking about which HC job is the best available and i’ve heard many say it’s the Chicago job. Guys on NFLN were saying it’s becuz they “have a quarterback” in Jay Cutler, and that he is a “great talent” you can build a franchise around.
Cutler was obtained by Chi. giving up TWO (2) # 1’s AND a #3 AND a bonafide starter in Kyle Orton. TWO NUMBER 1 DRAFT PICKS AND A # 3!
Here are this franchise QB’s career stats:
Jay Cutler- TD’s 136 Int’s 100 Career rating 84.0
Carson Palmer- TD’S 189 Int’s 130 Career rating 86.2
No need to jump on and exclaim how much of a “loser” Palmer is and get all weird, the reason I post this is becuz when u look at Cutler’s body of work and then u hear how he is so lauded as this “great player’ and “franchise QB” and how Chicago is such a great gig BECUZ Cutler is the QB…it makes you shake your head, cuz if Palmer “sucks” then what does that make Cutler?
And before you say ‘yeah but Palmer is a quitter’, what would u rather have. A QB who waits till the season is over and “retires” or a QB who who bails on his team in the 2nd half of the NFC Championship game against the teams most hated rival.
Go ahead and say Palmer sucks etc. etc. but Jay Cutler is a “franchise” qb and an alluring piece for any prospective new HC?
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Excellent post!!
January 7th, 2013 at 10:08 pm
1. Luke Joeckel, LT, Texas A&M
2. Trade down
3. Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah
January 7th, 2013 at 10:10 pm
Reggie was never going to go a linebacker as a #3 pick anyway, even if Teo looked semi-good tonight, which he didn’t.
The only time you should take a lb that high is if you are so loaded with talent at every other position and don’t need anything but a ml or if that linebacker was Jack Lambert.
January 7th, 2013 at 10:10 pm
Alot of people wanting Star also but I never mention him because I really don’t think he will be there at #3
January 7th, 2013 at 10:10 pm
As far as the claim that “but Palmer is on his last legs and fading…he’s getting worse as he gets older…Cutler gets better each year”.
2012- Palmer 22 TD’s 14 int’s 4,000 + yd’s in 14 games
2012- Cutler 19 TD’s 14 int’s just over 3,000 yd’s in 15 games, with a true # 1 receiver in Brandon Marshall.
January 7th, 2013 at 10:10 pm
Well of course you won’t find any Teo lovers in here tonight. Lol.
January 7th, 2013 at 10:12 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 3:55 pm
Scourge Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 3:52 pm
Beeech, I think old Marie Kane is on Kell’s *ss to make cold calls tryin to sell that listing he’s had for so long.
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I sold that in November. Thanks.
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http://kaneandassociatesrealtors.com/default.asp.f-listings_byagent.agentid-9788
You are such a liar.
You had no listings in the last 15 months except that one shack, that still remains unsold.
Why do you lie?
January 7th, 2013 at 10:15 pm
Yeah they all hiding no doubt lol, but I really haven’t seen that many in here
January 7th, 2013 at 10:22 pm
Not tryna sound like a negative nancy but Jay Cutler is trash. Hes been in the league for a while now and is known as a turnover machine, opposing defenses dont fear him at all they salivate at the opportunity to play against him because he gives out gifts… I recall numerous of times reading about players bashing jay and loving to play aginst jay cutler for a chance to boost their stats from thomas howard to charles woodson. Think how long has Jay been in the league and what has he won???
January 7th, 2013 at 10:25 pm
DK was a huge fan of Te’o. I told him he was another McClain without the attitude.
January 7th, 2013 at 10:25 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 1:05 pm
Hwnrdr Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 1:03 pm
Waiting for the Raiders to announce anything about their current OC search is like Brad Pitt’s character in 7 asking Morgan Freeman…”WHAT’S IN THE BOX!”
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There’s nothing to announce. Reggie’s waiting on Edgar Bennett, Ben McAdoo, and/or Pat Hill.
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Nah, DA’s the one who will pick his coordinators. He failed pretty miserably first time through. Hopefully better this time.
January 7th, 2013 at 10:26 pm
You see, the only coordinator he should’ve changed (DC) is the only one that’s lasting another year.
January 7th, 2013 at 10:27 pm
Cutler is not a great QB, but he is solid. Bears need to invest in their OL more.
January 7th, 2013 at 10:28 pm
Terrelle Pryor is like a beam of light in this dark season. I really, really wish it was John Gruden coaching him and not Dennis Allen. Kid has the talent, the right attitude and is a real leader who says and does the right things and actually believes it.
January 7th, 2013 at 10:28 pm
Raider O. Many in here suggest we will pick top 5 NEXT YEAR, pay Gruden Now what he wants,get it done…We are talking about the Oakland Raiders, how far have we fallen? Mark Davis, get it Fixed,sir….
January 7th, 2013 at 10:33 pm
Rey Maualuga: big and slow, and not a good fit at 4-3 MLB.
McClain: big and slow, and not a good fit for 4-3 MLB.
January 7th, 2013 at 10:34 pm
DKnight007 Says:
January 4th, 2013 at 9:29 am
679.Raider O Says:
January 4th, 2013 at 9:26 am
Te’o = McClain without the attitude.
Pass on mediocre talent from the overrated ND program.
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Nah. Your problem is just with ND and that is clouding your judgement on Te’o.
Te’o isn’t even close to the same player McClain is.
Te’o will be a starter for someone for 12-15 years. While McClain will be a journeymen.
January 7th, 2013 at 10:38 pm
recapping our free agents
“With many free agents and some other high-priced players, McKenzie will be faced with more tough decisions this year. Here is a look at some players who may not be on the team in training camp:
Receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey: The No. 7 overall pick of the 2009 draft had a nice third season when he caught 64 passes after a slow start to his career. But he regressed in 2012 withjust 41 catches. Heyward-Bey is entering the final year of his contract and I think he is worth keeping around. He will likely never become a star, but is a decent threat. I could see the Raiders looking to tweak his contract for this season though to try to get some relief for the salary cap.
Defensive tackle Tommy Kelly: Kelly, 32, was up and down this season. He is still a decent player, but he misses a lot of plays. He has two years remaining on a seven-year, $50.5 million deal. If the Raiders bring him back, they will likely ask him to take a pay cut. Defensive tackle Desmond Bryant is a free agent and Oakland may sign him instead and shed Kelly.
Punter Shane Lechler: The 36-year-old free agent could be gone next season. Oakland has young punter Marquette King on the injured reserve. King has a big leg, but he is still raw and inexperience. While Lechler didn’t have a great year in 2012, he is still an upper-level punter. If he doesn’t get a great deal elsewhere, I could see him coming back.
Linebacker Rolando McClain: I don’t see him coming back. He has burnt too many bridges. There have been reports that the Raiders may get a salary cap break because he was suspended by the team. Either way, he’s gone.
Running back Darren McFadden: McFadden is entering the final season of his contract. His play diminished this season and his injury issues continued. McFadden has missed at least three games due to injury in all five of his NFL seasons. I think Oakland — which doesn’t have a second and fifth round pick in the April draft — should consider dealing McFadden if it got a second or third-round pick in return. There really isn’t a huge market for an injury-prone near free agent tailback, however, so McFadden could easily play his contract year in Oakland. He too could be a candidate for a pay cut.
Tight end Brandon Myers: Myers had a breakout year this season. He had 79 catches for 804 yards and is a free agent. The Raiders don’t have any great options and they need to keep Myers. He opened eyes around the league and if he hits free agency, someone could pay him big.
Quarterback Carson Palmer: I think Palmer stays. I don’t think he is the answer for the long haul, but for 2013, the 33-year-old will be Oakland’s quarterback. He is due a huge contract and he will likely restructure his deal. Terrelle Pryor showed some promise in his Week 17 start, but I think the Raiders will feel more comfortable with Palmer’s experience for at least another season. I think we could be talking about Palmer’s departure this time next year.
Defensive tackle Richard Seymour: Seymour’s time in Oakland is up. His contract is voided and he is a free agent. The team will take a $5.26 million cap hit, but Seymour is 33 and has missed half the season with a hamstring injury. He is on the decline and Oakland needs to get younger. ”
Source; Bleacher Report
January 7th, 2013 at 10:40 pm
Hendu Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 10:28 pm
Raider O. Many in here suggest we will pick top 5 NEXT YEAR, pay Gruden Now what he wants,get it done…We are talking about the Oakland Raiders, how far have we fallen? Mark Davis, get it Fixed,sir….
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With Gruden, its always second hand info…
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/07/jaworski-says-jon-gruden-would-be-interested-in-eagles/
January 7th, 2013 at 10:40 pm
Hendu,
I don’t think Gruden is coming to Oak, and I doubt he is interested in coaching at this point. He is well paid, doesn’t have to deal with a lot of BS, and works less hours for more money than most HCs in the NFL.
I understand your point, and we do need to improve our coaching staff, but we need to hire someone to supervise RM too. There are rumors about MD being interested in Ray Anderson.
We are a mess bro.
RAIDERS!!
January 7th, 2013 at 10:43 pm
Raider O Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 10:25 pm
DK was a huge fan of Te’o. I told him he was another McClain without the attitude.
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Whatever the attitude, they got TROUNCED tonight by the Tide.
what a let down.
January 7th, 2013 at 10:43 pm
raiders should try and sign Joe Webb. he throws a good bounce pass. wave of the future
January 7th, 2013 at 10:44 pm
Nah. Your problem is just with ND and that is clouding your judgement on Te’o.
Te’o isn’t even close to the same player McClain is.
Te’o will be a starter for someone for 12-15 years. While McClain will be a journeymen.
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I don’t have a problem with ND. I hate Mich.
Not impressed with this kid, and I think he lacks speed to be a 3 down MLB in the NFL Like Rey Maualuga and McClain.
January 7th, 2013 at 10:45 pm
Crazy question would you be mad if we took Milliner with our 1st pick?
January 7th, 2013 at 10:45 pm
middle of oaklands DLINE will have a “STAR” next season
January 7th, 2013 at 10:47 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 4th, 2013 at 6:20 pm
Trade down take OL or MLB Te’o get a 2nd round pick and go.
Star will be gone by 3 watch. Matt mayock has him going number 1
January 7th, 2013 at 10:49 pm
PurpleDrank81 Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 10:45 pm
Crazy question would you be mad if we took Milliner with our 1st pick?
>> building DLINE first and filling in behind is ideal IMO. they could pick a Corner and it would fill a big need. there are a few DEs they could pick or the monster Lotulei. if they were REALLY high on that corner they might take him. he’d have to be champ bailey 2.0 IMO to skip over Lotueli or these pass rushers.
January 7th, 2013 at 10:49 pm
I told u every year its the same B.s. talk with cutler from these “analyst” or its Culters “year”
Dude is not very good or elite… he is on par with Carson Palmer at this point. Thats not a diss. It is what it is.
Forget star.. Trade down and take OLINE
and no I wouldnt be mad a Dee Milliner.. Lockdown corners dont grow on trees and im tired of lower tier corner talent around these parts of Raider town. would never happen with reggie tho
January 7th, 2013 at 10:51 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 10:47 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 4th, 2013 at 6:20 pm
Trade down take OL or MLB Te’o get a 2nd round pick and go.
Star will be gone by 3 watch. Matt mayock has him going number 1
>. ahh fuk that. queefs will take that QB smith. andy reid will want a QB to build around. no way lutulei gos to the queefs. jags might take him.
January 7th, 2013 at 10:51 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 10:47 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 4th, 2013 at 6:20 pm
Trade down take OL or MLB Te’o get a 2nd round pick and go.
Star will be gone by 3 watch. Matt mayock has him going number 1
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that has nothing to do with 3rd overall.. notice i said trade down. and that was even b4 tonights game!
January 7th, 2013 at 10:51 pm
Kell u on me bro??
January 7th, 2013 at 10:51 pm
I could see Andy Reid taking Star and drafting a QB in the 2nd.. So if that happens do we take Geno Smith????
January 7th, 2013 at 10:52 pm
Jackie Bibby Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 10:22 pm
Not tryna sound like a negative nancy but Jay Cutler is trash. Hes been in the league for a while now and is known as a turnover machine, opposing defenses dont fear him at all they salivate at the opportunity to play against him because he gives out gifts… I recall numerous of times reading about players bashing jay and loving to play aginst jay cutler for a chance to boost their stats from thomas howard to charles woodson. Think how long has Jay been in the league and what has he won???
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Exactly, but everybody’s been talking him up since the Chicago job has opened up with the large majority saying Chicago is the best gig available and almost everyone i’ve heard gives the reason that the Bears have a ready made QB in Cutler in which to work with.
Yeah, it blows my mind too. Bears have an aging defense..but still a good one and…the great Jay Cutler.
My point is not to defend the Palmer deal, but if it is some say the “worst in history” than what the heck was the Cutler trade? The Bears gave up much more. If it was a disaster to give up a #1 for Palmer what is it when you give up TWO # 1’s for Cutler…AND a 3rd?
What’s interesting too is when you look at the Bears draft picks since 2003..especially the # 1 picks…it makes Oakland look like geniuses, yet Chi. has managed to make the playoffs despite it and be pretty respectable..record wise.
I guess credit would go to their defense and guys like Urlacher and Tillman..and Briggs etc.
For some reason…we weren’t so lucky.
January 7th, 2013 at 10:53 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 10:49 pm
I told u every year its the same B.s. talk with cutler from these “analyst” or its Culters “year”
Dude is not very good or elite… he is on par with Carson Palmer at this point. Thats not a diss. It is what it is.
Forget star.. Trade down and take OLINE
and no I wouldnt be mad a Dee Milliner.. Lockdown corners dont grow on trees and im tired of lower tier corner talent around these parts of Raider town. would never happen with reggie tho
>. trade down and get what? need a trade PARTNER. a team must have a love obsession with a player at 3 to give us anything good. might get a LATE 1st and a 3rd? I’d take the best defensive player available at 3.
January 7th, 2013 at 10:53 pm
rolll tide baby 3 out of 4 sec remains dominant and the king of college football alabama is a dynasty that oline is maybe the best in college football history would love to draft either warmack or jones,fluker is also a stud at right tackle all three will go in the first round and eddie lacy is a man roll fcking tide love SEC football the great think about bama is they dont run no hybrid pssy option football they play pure power man football the way it should be with a pure passer look at the qb on the other side golson is garbage just like joe webb fck the hyrbid
January 7th, 2013 at 10:53 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 10:49-Dude is not very good or elite… he is on par with Carson Palmer at this point. Thats not a diss.
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It sure as hell is!
January 7th, 2013 at 10:53 pm
I don’t think Andy Reid we’ll go with Geno Smith
January 7th, 2013 at 10:54 pm
PurpleDrank81 Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 10:51 pm
I could see Andy Reid taking Star and drafting a QB in the 2nd.. So if that happens do we take Geno Smith????
>. only take him if somebody wants to give up some quality picks for him. a 1st and a 2nd would do it. Raiders will end up taking the best defensive player available.
January 7th, 2013 at 10:54 pm
golson sucks mccarron is the man
January 7th, 2013 at 10:54 pm
Dude is not very good or elite… he is on par with Carson Palmer at this point. Thats not a diss.
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It sure as hell is!
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There is elite.. then there is middle tier to lower like 16-22. in that range.
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January 7th, 2013 at 10:55 pm
PurpleDrank81 Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 10:53 pm
I don’t think Andy Reid we’ll go with Geno Smith
>> queefs have a lot of good players. Reid will have that team 8-8 or better next year. they won’t get a top QB in next years draft. cassell or Geno?
January 7th, 2013 at 10:56 pm
Te’o had a chance to prove he is an impact player against great talent, and he failed to do that IMO.
He had problems shedding blocks and tackling.
IMHO, he plays like Maualuga & McClain.
January 7th, 2013 at 10:56 pm
trade down and get what? need a trade PARTNER. a team must have a love obsession with a player at 3 to give us anything good. might get a LATE 1st and a 3rd? I’d take the best defensive player available at 3.
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well obviously. Thats were Reggie will have to find a partner. Cork thinks now we will trade down.
Trade down and take OLINE.. even pass rusher. Mingo will be there from 10-20. When I say trade down im not talkin late 20’s.. something around the 10-15 range.
January 7th, 2013 at 10:56 pm
You could get a lot for trading that 3rd pick… You never know when a team is going to fall in love with a player and want to trade up
January 7th, 2013 at 10:57 pm
Saying “dude is not very good” isn’t dissing him?
January 7th, 2013 at 10:57 pm
If we trade down I want Warmack…
January 7th, 2013 at 10:57 pm
You could get a lot for trading that 3rd pick… You never know when a team is going to fall in love with a player and want to trade up
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Yuppp and every year a team falls in love with a player from the combine workouts to private workouts. Truth.
January 7th, 2013 at 10:58 pm
After reading the free-agent post #856
What happens if Mcfadden has 12 td 1600+ all purpose yards next year. Would the Raider Transition or Franchise him??
January 7th, 2013 at 10:58 pm
ian85 Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 10:53 pm
rolll tide baby 3 out of 4 sec remains dominant and the king of college football alabama is a dynasty that oline is maybe the best in college football history would love to draft either warmack or jones,fluker is also a stud at right tackle all three will go in the first round and eddie lacy is a man roll fcking tide love SEC football the great think about bama is they dont run no hybrid pssy option football they play pure power man football the way it should be with a pure passer look at the qb on the other side golson is garbage just like joe webb fck the hyrbid
>> could trade down and draft their OLINE. if raiders REALLY want to go OLINE, they better just take that LT at 3. make some fukin trades and pick up the best center available ASAP after that first round pick. that should make the oline a force. but i think they’ll go defense in the first round.
January 7th, 2013 at 10:58 pm
866, Raidersallday, Cutler is actually WORSE than Palmer statistically and otherwise AND he has a true #1 with Brandon Marshall to throw too.
Believe me, there is no talk whatsoever of Chi. getting a different QB right now. In fact, the fans here still think he IS elite and alot of the meida as well.
They were even speculating that Cutler will be brought in to the meetings when they interview the new head coach to make sure Cutler is “comfortable” with him.
January 7th, 2013 at 10:58 pm
Saying “dude is not very good” isn’t dissing him?
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Ya jay cutler is not very good. I wouldnt be the only one that shared that opinion. but if u think otherwise. Thats your opinion
January 7th, 2013 at 10:59 pm
Bet all of the ND seniors just sent their draft pick status down one level if not more….
What a mess this game was. The Tide didn’t even have to try hard.
January 7th, 2013 at 10:59 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 10:57 pm
You could get a lot for trading that 3rd pick… You never know when a team is going to fall in love with a player and want to trade up
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Yuppp and every year a team falls in love with a player from the combine workouts to private workouts. Truth.
>> Raiders have no playmakers on defense. nothing. why shouldn’t they take the best defensive player available?
January 7th, 2013 at 11:02 pm
Raiders and the Board of Sups are supposed to meet on Tuesday (almost today) on the lease with the Raiders. Meeting is closed.
January 7th, 2013 at 11:03 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 10:56 pm
trade down and get what? need a trade PARTNER. a team must have a love obsession with a player at 3 to give us anything good. might get a LATE 1st and a 3rd? I’d take the best defensive player available at 3.
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well obviously. Thats were Reggie will have to find a partner. Cork thinks now we will trade down.
Trade down and take OLINE.. even pass rusher. Mingo will be there from 10-20. When I say trade down im not talkin late 20’s.. something around the 10-15 range.
>> you think a defensive minded head coach and a former linebacker GM are going to draft OLINE after watching THAT defense all year? that defense has zero playmakers. not one ball hawk, no big hitters, no free safety, no pass rusher, no DT to anchor the DLINE. RM probably got anxiety watching that crap all year.
January 7th, 2013 at 11:03 pm
So you are saying Palmer isn’t very good also.
January 7th, 2013 at 11:05 pm
i agree raiders will go defense no doubt about it and i totally want them to but if they decide to go offense go oline with joekel from A@M or warmack from bama or like manassmaulersaid trade down and take jones or fluker
January 7th, 2013 at 11:09 pm
Is it too early to draft one of the Manning grandsons?
January 7th, 2013 at 11:10 pm
jat cut aint going nowhere please cutty is a baller throws some bad picks but hes still a damn good qb palmer and cutler is still good qbs i would take any of them over TP in a heart beat
January 7th, 2013 at 11:10 pm
All this criticism flying around about RG3 and his knee. Don’t see the big deal myself. He wanted to play and his coach trusted him. Where’s the adulation for playing hurt and trying to get it done for your team?? Phil Rivers had statues built of him for stinking it up against the Pats in the AFC Championship on a torn ACL! At least RG3 carved up Seattle for a 14-pt lead before he got hurt. Tied for the most TD passes this weekend with 2. What a joke!
January 7th, 2013 at 11:12 pm
Alameda Lee Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 10:58 pm
After reading the free-agent post #856
What happens if Mcfadden has 12 td 1600+ all purpose yards next year. Would the Raider Transition or Franchise him??
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They’d figure out a way to keep him that’s for sure.
January 7th, 2013 at 11:12 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 11:10 pm
All this criticism flying around about RG3 and his knee. Don’t see the big deal myself. He wanted to play and his coach trusted him. Where’s the adulation for playing hurt and trying to get it done for your team?? Phil Rivers had statues built of him for stinking it up against the Pats in the AFC Championship on a torn ACL! At least RG3 carved up Seattle for a 14-pt lead before he got hurt. Tied for the most TD passes this weekend with 2. What a joke!
>> RGIII without the running is mortal. he hurt his team by staying out there. once seattle knew he couldn’t run they clamped him down. made RGIII look 1 dimensional. take away the run threat and he’s easily contained. wave of the future
January 7th, 2013 at 11:13 pm
Every player needs some kinda players around him to be successful
January 7th, 2013 at 11:14 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 11:12 pm
Alameda Lee Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 10:58 pm
After reading the free-agent post #856
What happens if Mcfadden has 12 td 1600+ all purpose yards next year. Would the Raider Transition or Franchise him??
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They’d figure out a way to keep him that’s for sure.
>> Mcfragile barely has 12 tds in his whole career man. they guy is a situational RB at best. maybe try him at WR at this point. biggest disappointment. guy looked like a beast in college.
January 7th, 2013 at 11:14 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 11:10 pm
All this criticism flying around about RG3 and his knee. Don’t see the big deal myself. He wanted to play and his coach trusted him. Where’s the adulation for playing hurt and trying to get it done for your team?? Phil Rivers had statues built of him for stinking it up against the Pats in the AFC Championship on a torn ACL! At least RG3 carved up Seattle for a 14-pt lead before he got hurt. Tied for the most TD passes this weekend with 2. What a joke!
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The blame should go to Shanahan for putting him at risk imo.
You can’t blame RG3 for being a gamer and wanting to play. Any true competitor would.
January 7th, 2013 at 11:15 pm
i wonder why mystic isnt here talking up golson telling everybody that notre dame coaches were the reason golson blew arse
January 7th, 2013 at 11:15 pm
RGIII is a beast, he can beat you with his arm with the best of them, unfortunately he was saddled with receivers as bad as Palmer had, when his legs gave up on him, he couldn’t lead his team to points cuz his receivers suck really bad
January 7th, 2013 at 11:16 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 11:14 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 11:10 pm
All this criticism flying around about RG3 and his knee. Don’t see the big deal myself. He wanted to play and his coach trusted him. Where’s the adulation for playing hurt and trying to get it done for your team?? Phil Rivers had statues built of him for stinking it up against the Pats in the AFC Championship on a torn ACL! At least RG3 carved up Seattle for a 14-pt lead before he got hurt. Tied for the most TD passes this weekend with 2. What a joke!
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The blame should go to Shanahan for putting him at risk imo.
You can’t blame RG3 for being a gamer and wanting to play. Any true competitor would.
>. it was fun watching shanahan blow it. it was also great to know that shanarats LAST game as the bronco HC was a 31-10 ass whopping at home put on him by the raiders!!!
January 7th, 2013 at 11:16 pm
Mcfadden is a beast, we should trade him to a team that is willing to part away with many picks, we can live with being a balanced O if we can get a #1 receiver i believe Goodson can get the job done, i seen enough of him to be comfortable in him
January 7th, 2013 at 11:18 pm
Man I’m tryna buy my Warmack Jersey Already lol
January 7th, 2013 at 11:19 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 11:15 pm
RGIII is a beast, he can beat you with his arm with the best of them, unfortunately he was saddled with receivers as bad as Palmer had, when his legs gave up on him, he couldn’t lead his team to points cuz his receivers suck really bad
>> RGIII game right now is elevated by his legs. he’s a great passer but that isn’t what teams are afraid of. its his running. like I’ve said and others have said, run first QBS don’t win, never have never will. RGIII is the only “wave of the future” QBs that I’ve seen that can win it all. scam newton, pryor, i don;t see it. russell wilson is my height!!! RGIII will win once they let him run a real offense. just my opinion.
January 7th, 2013 at 11:19 pm
I didn’t watch the game, but 1 guy can’t just overcome the whole Ds bad play, Manti Teo is still a good player, unfortunately Bama got NFL ready linemen and ND had only 1 another guy to go in top 3 on D, Nix, you can’t beat a team with 2 nfl ready d starters against 5 or 6 nfl ready starters
January 7th, 2013 at 11:20 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 11:16 pm
Mcfadden is a beast, we should trade him to a team that is willing to part away with many picks, we can live with being a balanced O if we can get a #1 receiver i believe Goodson can get the job done, i seen enough of him to be comfortable in him
>> what team would that be man? DMC is injury prone and doesn’t break tackles now. if you get a 3rd for him I’d test that GM for narcotics
January 7th, 2013 at 11:20 pm
I’m an RG3 fan,but I wouldn’t say RG3 carved Seattle before he got hurt.They scored on their 1st 2 possessions and were shut down the rest of the game.
January 7th, 2013 at 11:21 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 3rd, 2013 at 8:43 am
OC- Aaron Kromer
OL- Tony Sparano
ST- Bobby April
LB- Adam Zimmer
Free Agent Targets:
RT- Chad Clifton
WR- Jordan Shipley
DE/OLB- Trevor Scott
NT- Ricky Jean-Francois
DT- Justin Bannan
OLB- Manny Lawson
ILB- Larry Grant
Draft Option 1:
1- Manti Te’o [ILB, Notre Dame]
3- Kwame Geathers [NT, Georgia]
4- Michael Buchanon [DE/OLB, Illinois]
6- Tanner Hawkinson [RT, Kansas]
7- Ray Ray Armstrong [S,
January 7th, 2013 at 11:21 pm
manassmauler exactly right on point once RG3 couldnt run he was toast onces hes one dimensional hes finished just like what bama did to golson today they didnt let him run outside made him play from the pocket and he absolutely couldnt this is why i say the wave of the future is horse crp
January 7th, 2013 at 11:22 pm
manassamauler Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 11:19 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 11:15 pm
RGIII is a beast, he can beat you with his arm with the best of them, unfortunately he was saddled with receivers as bad as Palmer had, when his legs gave up on him, he couldn’t lead his team to points cuz his receivers suck really bad
>> RGIII game right now is elevated by his legs. he’s a great passer but that isn’t what teams are afraid of. its his running. like I’ve said and others have said, run first QBS don’t win, never have never will. RGIII is the only “wave of the future” QBs that I’ve seen that can win it all. scam newton, pryor, i don;t see it. russell wilson is my height!!! RGIII will win once they let him run a real offense. just my opinion.
– That’s true his legs give him a huge advantage, but RGIII is still good enough to beat you with his Arms, if i had to draft a QB i would have drafted him over Luck, RGIII can do everything, but like we already know, you’re only as good as your sporting cast and the coaching talent you have around you, just look at what KNNNAP did to Mcfadden and the whole O
January 7th, 2013 at 11:22 pm
give me a pure pocket passer with just enough mobility when he has to any day of the week
January 7th, 2013 at 11:23 pm
Theghostronin79 Says:
January 3rd, 2013 at 9:29 am
Thec Says:
January 3rd, 2013 at 9:24 am
1- Manti Te’o [ILB, Notre Dame]
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Without a good solid trecnh, he gets washed out most plays.
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the shame of it all is, Guys like Te’o don’t come around very often….NOT with his complete package that is. (7 damn picks, are you kidding?) I know each draft has “Great” guys at every position, and I’d hate to pass on a guy like Te’o but, like you said. He’d be dirty every game because of our line…..Ahhh, decisions, decisions
January 7th, 2013 at 11:24 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 3rd, 2013 at 9:57 am
Te’O at #3 would be GREAT VALUE
The most heralded defensive collegiate player since Charles Woodson?
Sign me up.
January 7th, 2013 at 11:25 pm
manassamauler Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 11:20 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 11:16 pm
Mcfadden is a beast, we should trade him to a team that is willing to part away with many picks, we can live with being a balanced O if we can get a #1 receiver i believe Goodson can get the job done, i seen enough of him to be comfortable in him
>> what team would that be man? DMC is injury prone and doesn’t break tackles now. if you get a 3rd for him I’d test that GM for narcotics
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I don’t know any team that would believe he will finally stay healthy and watch his 10 and 11 highlights, but i don’t think Raiders should give him another chance, yes he could become the NFL MVP with another team but the chances are he’s most likely to be injured before the midseason next year based on his career in NFL
January 7th, 2013 at 11:27 pm
RGIII was doing stuff all year with both his arm and legs, this was the game he went against a top 5 day, with lock down corners, his legs gave up on him and he had to rely on his arm to beat good secondary throwing to piss poor receivers, does that remind you of something one of our guy had to go through?
January 7th, 2013 at 11:27 pm
mcfadden20 i wouldnt mind having pierre garcon hes def better than any wide reciever we have by far
January 7th, 2013 at 11:29 pm
RM could trade down and just all alabama OLINE. and the running back too. hell he might take their Corner at 3. i don’t follow college football but that team is loaded.
January 7th, 2013 at 11:29 pm
Pierre Garcon is probably better than any of our receivers, but the read option helped both the run game and passing game, once it was apparent RGIII couldn’t do sh1t with his legs, players locked onto the average receivers and the rest was history
January 7th, 2013 at 11:31 pm
RGIII is good enough to be a pocket passer, they are going to get him killed with this read option sh1t, are you saying you get hit about the same number as staying in pocket if your running with the ball? puhleeezee m1st1c
January 7th, 2013 at 11:31 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 11:27 pm
RGIII was doing stuff all year with both his arm and legs, this was the game he went against a top 5 day, with lock down corners, his legs gave up on him and he had to rely on his arm to beat good secondary throwing to piss poor receivers, does that remind you of something one of our guy had to go through?
>. skins have better WRS that we do. RGIII lost, couldn’t overcome his lack of mobility. at this point his strength is his mobility. but he has a great arm and can transition into a great pocket passer IMO. he and luck will dominate the league for a long time. but these running QBS just won’t last.we all saw gannons career end because of his running.
January 7th, 2013 at 11:31 pm
Alabama’s talent looked better than it was because of the weak opponent it played,but they are pretty good.
January 7th, 2013 at 11:32 pm
I’m still on the Damontre Moore Bandwagon, only team to beat Bama, just think about that for a sec
January 7th, 2013 at 11:33 pm
manassamauler Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 11:12 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 11:10 pm
All this criticism flying around about RG3 and his knee. Don’t see the big deal myself. He wanted to play and his coach trusted him. Where’s the adulation for playing hurt and trying to get it done for your team?? Phil Rivers had statues built of him for stinking it up against the Pats in the AFC Championship on a torn ACL! At least RG3 carved up Seattle for a 14-pt lead before he got hurt. Tied for the most TD passes this weekend with 2. What a joke!
>> RGIII without the running is mortal. he hurt his team by staying out there. once seattle knew he couldn’t run they clamped him down. made RGIII look 1 dimensional. take away the run threat and he’s easily contained. wave of the future
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Ummmm, are we talking about the same guy?? If the dude hadn’t tweaked his knee, Washington might have scored 100 pts. The only way Seattle was able to stop him was to hope he got injured, and that’s what happened. Couldn’t push off on his throws. Earl Thomas never gets that pick if RG3 is healthy. And as it was, Browner blatantly interfered with the reciver on that play and it wasn’t called. RG3 missed easy throws in that game that he never would have missed if healthy. Not a great group of receivers, but if he had been healthy, the top-rated QB in the NFL would have continued to ball out.
January 7th, 2013 at 11:34 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 11:31 pm
RGIII is good enough to be a pocket passer, they are going to get him killed with this read option sh1t, are you saying you get hit about the same number as staying in pocket if your running with the ball? puhleeezee m1st1c
>> yep QBs need strong legs, knees and ankeles to plant their feet and throw. running QBs take a lot hits from different angles. my QB isn’t running unless he’s got an open field ahead or hes sees jared allen closing in.
January 7th, 2013 at 11:35 pm
bama is my favorite team been following them since 2004 watch college football as much as the NFL i like to kno the players that my raiders could take plus the rivalries in college r much better
January 7th, 2013 at 11:35 pm
manassamauler Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 11:31 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 11:27 pm
RGIII was doing stuff all year with both his arm and legs, this was the game he went against a top 5 day, with lock down corners, his legs gave up on him and he had to rely on his arm to beat good secondary throwing to piss poor receivers, does that remind you of something one of our guy had to go through?
>. skins have better WRS that we do. RGIII lost, couldn’t overcome his lack of mobility. at this point his strength is his mobility. but he has a great arm and can transition into a great pocket passer IMO. he and luck will dominate the league for a long time. but these running QBS just won’t last.we all saw gannons career end because of his running.
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Washington receivers could be better than ours but it doesn’t say much, Wash was riding on the read option all year , can’t just beat a top 5 D eventually when you have to rely on your arm full time, passing to ok receivers, your right they should make him a full time pocket passer, he’s as good as Luck, just let him play in pocket, the guy can make plays when guys are not open , give him a good receiver , he can do a lot of things
January 7th, 2013 at 11:36 pm
i might be the only guy in nor cal who isnt a pac12 guy i just have always loved SEC football its like the mini NFL plus those people in the south r so damn passionate about there football i love it
January 7th, 2013 at 11:38 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 11:33 pm
manassamauler Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 11:12 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 11:10 pm
All this criticism flying around about RG3 and his knee. Don’t see the big deal myself. He wanted to play and his coach trusted him. Where’s the adulation for playing hurt and trying to get it done for your team?? Phil Rivers had statues built of him for stinking it up against the Pats in the AFC Championship on a torn ACL! At least RG3 carved up Seattle for a 14-pt lead before he got hurt. Tied for the most TD passes this weekend with 2. What a joke!
>> RGIII without the running is mortal. he hurt his team by staying out there. once seattle knew he couldn’t run they clamped him down. made RGIII look 1 dimensional. take away the run threat and he’s easily contained. wave of the future
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Ummmm, are we talking about the same guy?? If the dude hadn’t tweaked his knee, Washington might have scored 100 pts. The only way Seattle was able to stop him was to hope he got injured, and that’s what happened. Couldn’t push off on his throws. Earl Thomas never gets that pick if RG3 is healthy. And as it was, Browner blatantly interfered with the reciver on that play and it wasn’t called. RG3 missed easy throws in that game that he never would have missed if healthy. Not a great group of receivers, but if he had been healthy, the top-rated QB in the NFL would have continued to ball out.
— He never said RGIII is bad, he’s just pointing out what we all know, you can’t always beat teams with ur legs, sometimes you got to do with your arm, n he’s just saying washington should scrap this zone read sh1t, its going to ruin RGIII career, he’s good enough passer to become a legitimate pocket passer, agree?
January 7th, 2013 at 11:39 pm
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Washington receivers could be better than ours but it doesn’t say much, Wash was riding on the read option all year , can’t just beat a top 5 D eventually when you have to rely on your arm full time, passing to ok receivers, your right they should make him a full time pocket passer, he’s as good as Luck, just let him play in pocket, the guy can make plays when guys are not open , give him a good receiver , he can do a lot of things
>. you see , people on here rag on palmer when his WRs are below average but now we all can see it. palmer played AMAZING considering that he had below average targets, no run game and had to take a beating every week. how can a raider fan NOT be a palmer fan. fresh perspective gents
January 7th, 2013 at 11:40 pm
Ian85 Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 11:35 pm
bama is my favorite team been following them since 2004 watch college football as much as the NFL i like to kno the players that my raiders could take plus the rivalries in college r much better
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Oh yeah, you’re such a genius. Lol.
January 7th, 2013 at 11:40 pm
Pierre Garcon is a very good WR.He was injured most of the year though.
January 7th, 2013 at 11:40 pm
College football is eh, what ever unless you attended one of the colleges, i never really cared for it until recently when looking at who the Raiders might/should draft etc but i love how Texas A&M plays, they beat BAMA so it makes me happy that D Moore was part of that team, they also destroyed Oklahoma
January 7th, 2013 at 11:43 pm
whats really sad is that Santana moss had more TDs than anybody on our offense. dude is past his prime, isn’t even a #1 WR.
January 7th, 2013 at 11:43 pm
Raider O Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 10:25 pm
DK was a huge fan of Te’o. I told him he was another McClain without the attitude.
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Yes you did, I saw that post.
January 7th, 2013 at 11:44 pm
There is no telinng what REGGIE might do.. or who he might draft. I do know he is gonna want to collect picks via Raider beat writer.
Raiders have no 2nd round pick. Think on that for a second.
Raiders need Multiple players.. not just one player. If he doesnt find value or there guy is gone.. or maybe he finds a trade partner .. I think he will listen to everything
January 7th, 2013 at 11:45 pm
manassamauler Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 11:39 pm
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Washington receivers could be better than ours but it doesn’t say much, Wash was riding on the read option all year , can’t just beat a top 5 D eventually when you have to rely on your arm full time, passing to ok receivers, your right they should make him a full time pocket passer, he’s as good as Luck, just let him play in pocket, the guy can make plays when guys are not open , give him a good receiver , he can do a lot of things
>. you see , people on here rag on palmer when his WRs are below average but now we all can see it. palmer played AMAZING considering that he had below average targets, no run game and had to take a beating every week. how can a raider fan NOT be a palmer fan. fresh perspective gents
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yup only guys who hate Palmer are the guys with Agenda , i understand where they are coming from when they talk about his late game blunders, but they forget to realize that he’s passing to below average receivers and playing with bottom 5 OC, n pretty bad so those things are going to happen, but Palmer can be turned into a pretty good qb, if you let him know the D got his back and receivers will make plays for him
January 7th, 2013 at 11:46 pm
slightly off topic.
a list of the fallen Raiders….just paying tribute.
http://www.sbreport.net/the-raiders-research-project/the-memorial-wall
January 7th, 2013 at 11:47 pm
Manassamauler Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 11:43 pm
whats really sad is that Santana moss had more TDs than anybody on our offense. dude is past his prime, isn’t even a #1 WR.
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If he’s in the playoffs, and was able to catch on pro bowler Richard Sherman, he must be pretty good.
Past his prime? Whatever. He’s in the playoffs
January 7th, 2013 at 11:47 pm
nevermind the qb for the moment.
Lets talk how to make this team better. Go either Dlin ..or OLINE. Im on the ONLINE right now after watching what it can do for a team. Especially if we keep DMAC
January 7th, 2013 at 11:47 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 11:44 pm
There is no telinng what REGGIE might do.. or who he might draft. I do know he is gonna want to collect picks via Raider beat writer.
Raiders have no 2nd round pick. Think on that for a second.
Raiders need Multiple players.. not just one player. If he doesnt find value or there guy is gone.. or maybe he finds a trade partner .. I think he will listen to everything
>. yeah he’ll probably try to trade down and “stock” up. but i think thats garabge. that defense has ZERO playmakers, nothing. Defense needs a DT,DE,OLB, #1 CB and a real FS. can you trade down and REALLY make a dent in that? RM better be nostradmomus to hit his picks. only so many free agents. fuking trash heap for a defense. just take the best defensive player available at 3. DE, DT preferably. a shutdown CB wouldn’t hurt either
January 7th, 2013 at 11:49 pm
Only team to beat Alabama
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L73hKMz4vkI
January 7th, 2013 at 11:49 pm
Mc20-I think he is already better than a pretty good QB.As for his late game blunders you see it happen all the time when a team is constantly playing catch-up or having to throw the ball every down for 1 reason or another.
January 7th, 2013 at 11:51 pm
>. yeah he’ll probably try to trade down and “stock” up. but i think thats garabge. that defense has ZERO playmakers, nothing. Defense needs a DT,DE,OLB, #1 CB and a real FS. can you trade down and REALLY make a dent in that? RM better be nostradmomus to hit his picks. only so many free agents. fuking trash heap for a defense. just take the best defensive player available at 3. DE, DT preferably. a shutdown CB wouldn’t hurt either
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like i said im not talking about trading down to 20’s.. maybe something from 10-15 range. u can collect a 2nd rounder.
Still talent to be had. OLINE, and DLINE like Mingo pass rusher, DION JORDAN , Cornerback.. DT. Yes u can trade down and make some sort of impact. depends on how far u trade. U probaly can get extra 2 picks for not moving that far down.
But I agree with u somewhat.. but we also have so many needs. so more players is what this team needs. not just one.
Then wait till 3rd round
January 7th, 2013 at 11:52 pm
Draft D Moore i seen enough of him to realize he will be a different maker, only reason you didn’t see much of him was because the qb got rid of the ball in less than 3 seconds every play, n they ran a lot of misdirection, screen n other stuff, and ran away from him, you can tell he greatly influenced the game plan for oklahoma
January 7th, 2013 at 11:53 pm
Either way it feels good to finally have a 1st round pick this year .. DAYUM
January 7th, 2013 at 11:56 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 11:51 pm
>. yeah he’ll probably try to trade down and “stock” up. but i think thats garabge. that defense has ZERO playmakers, nothing. Defense needs a DT,DE,OLB, #1 CB and a real FS. can you trade down and REALLY make a dent in that? RM better be nostradmomus to hit his picks. only so many free agents. fuking trash heap for a defense. just take the best defensive player available at 3. DE, DT preferably. a shutdown CB wouldn’t hurt either
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like i said im not talking about trading down to 20’s.. maybe something from 10-15 range. u can collect a 2nd rounder.
Still talent to be had. OLINE, and DLINE like Mingo pass rusher, DION JORDAN , Cornerback.. DT. Yes u can trade down and make some sort of impact. depends on how far u trade. U probaly can get extra 2 picks for not moving that far down.
But I agree with u somewhat.. but we also have so many needs. so more players is what this team needs. not just one.
Then wait till 3rd round
>> you think a team picking 12th would give us their 2nd round pick as well? i don’t see that. not in this draft. but if it happened then great.stocking up picks in the first 3 rounds is great. after that isn’t from what I’ve seen. easier to find a starter in the first 3 rounds. trade down, trade DMAC to some chump and you could end up with a mid 1st round pick, a 2nd and 2 3rds. IF that was possible I’d do it. you could do a lot with those 4 picks.
January 7th, 2013 at 11:56 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 11:53 pm
Either way it feels good to finally have a 1st round pick this year .. DAYUM
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too bad we cant debate who we’ll draft… Luck or RGIII? Just terrible luck this year
January 7th, 2013 at 11:57 pm
WOW.. ok guys check this out. U know how Aj Mccarons g/f was on TV 2nite right?
Well Arizona Cardinals DE Darnell DOCKETT tweeted to her being a typical dumb horndog.. or as a joke. He has since deleted it.. but here is what he wrote.
Here’s what he tweeted Webb during the game:
Darnell Dockett twitter
– @_KatherineWebb aye u going to king of diamonds Monday after game?
– Aye @_KatherineWebb hit me (240) 464-xxxx when game over, lets go to wing stop then King of diamond,
Well Vic Tafaur just Retweeted Aj mccarons response a few minutes ago
McCarron@10AJMcCarron
@ddockett u better worry ab being in them playoffs, then going to king of diamonds homie.. #betterkeepdreaming like the rest of these dudes
Retweeted by Vic Tafur
January 7th, 2013 at 11:59 pm
DARNELL DOCKETT@ddockett
@10AJMcCarron
January 8th, 2013 at 12:02 am
str8 dime piece…
a hater always tries to get halfway in the mix.
beyond pitiful.
dont hate the player, hate the game, what business is it of yours, if shes a “typical dumb horndog”
January 8th, 2013 at 12:02 am
DARNELL DOCKETT@ddockett
@10AJMcCarron
January 8th, 2013 at 12:05 am
No man.. im saying Darnell was being the typical horndog and tweeted to ADARNELL DOCKETT@ddockett
@10AJMcCarron I made “OUR” girl famous tonight she had less than 5k followers now she over 80k! We all can go to wingstop! j g’f
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Now Aj Mccaron responded lmao.. the guy has to be druink or something
AJ McCarron@10AJMcCarron
@ddockett boy stop! U gotta better chance with them strippers then this way homie know that. better stop eating them wings and win. All love
AJ McCarron@10AJMcCarron
@ddockett and talk to them and tell them to get me and I will come help y’all!
January 8th, 2013 at 12:14 am
lefty12 Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 11:49 pm
Mc20-I think he is already better than a pretty good QB.As for his late game blunders you see it happen all the time when a team is constantly playing catch-up or having to throw the ball every down for 1 reason or another.
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Yup he’s pretty good , but all i’m saying is that those late blunders are correctable once he knows that he got players he can rely on and pretty good D he can rely on, then he can live onto see the next down and make good decisions, most of his poor decisions come from always playing from that mindset where he has to make every play count, which has always hurt him, if he can get over those kinda things and we can give him atleast above average D , he should be fine
January 8th, 2013 at 12:16 am
RaiderSam Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 11:49 pm
Only team to beat Alabama
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L73hKMz4vkI
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Thanks man, I’m fan of that team, they play till the whistle, just the way i like this team to play
January 8th, 2013 at 12:22 am
Kevin Sumlin was pretty good coach at Texas A&M first year coach
January 8th, 2013 at 12:36 am
Warmack might be a good choice. Have to cut brisiel though.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:40 am
At the end of the season we did have an at least avg defense.With a couple of play-making defense players we can possibly be better than avg. What Palmer needs is weapons to help him.WRs and a steady running game will do wonders-along with an OC that knows what he is doing.IMO,we need interior O-lineman more than we need a tackle.Good running teams have beasts at G and C.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:44 am
I realize my previous comments are unpopular opinions but that they are something to consider.
January 8th, 2013 at 1:36 am
Just checked a concensus of draft sites about some of my projections.
The concensus is Le’Veon Bell, RB from Michigan State is the second rated RB & should go in the second round. Both Texas A&M tackles are rated as first round candidates. This draft is strong @ OT & pass rushing hybrid types. I think it’s a good opportunity for the Raiders to trade down & garner, say, a third round pick. then they can trade DMAC for a second & fourth or, more likely, a fifth pick.
Then they can take one of the A & M tackles, Lewan from Michigan or Fisher from Central Michigan. In the second they take Bell, Margus Hunt, DE from SMU in the third (or trade the third & a fifth to re-enter the second round if that’s the case) & address the secondary & LB with other picks. . .have yet to address the FA market to decipher what is available there, but it is a work in progress. . .
January 8th, 2013 at 1:41 am
Draft the whole damn Alabama OL imo
January 8th, 2013 at 1:56 am
kool kell take ur old ass out to pasture u suck
January 8th, 2013 at 2:34 am
lefty12 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 12:40 am
At the end of the season we did have an at least avg defense.With a couple of play-making defense players we can possibly be better than avg. What Palmer needs is weapons to help him.WRs and a steady running game will do wonders-along with an OC that knows what he is doing.IMO,we need interior O-lineman more than we need a tackle.Good running teams have beasts at G and C.
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Move Wiz back to left guard and try Bishop at center. McFadden was running with the Veldheer/Wiz combination.
January 8th, 2013 at 2:40 am
I just got a Christmas card from my ex-wife twice.
Here we go again.
January 8th, 2013 at 2:42 am
903.DJ Johnny Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 11:14 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 11:10 pm
All this criticism flying around about RG3 and his knee. Don’t see the big deal myself. He wanted to play and his coach trusted him. Where’s the adulation for playing hurt and trying to get it done for your team?? Phil Rivers had statues built of him for stinking it up against the Pats in the AFC Championship on a torn ACL! At least RG3 carved up Seattle for a 14-pt lead before he got hurt. Tied for the most TD passes this weekend with 2. What a joke!
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The blame should go to Shanahan for putting him at risk imo.
You can’t blame RG3 for being a gamer and wanting to play. Any true competitor would.
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I said a long time ago that Shanahan was the worst possible HC for RGIII. Yeah, he’s a creative offensive mind and everything, but the man’s 60 years old and ultra-competetive. He doesn’t give two sh*ts for RGIII’s long-term health. He wants to win now because he’s only gonna coach for a couple of more years, and if he compromises the length of the young man’s career, so be it.
Remember, this is the guy that basically coerced Terrell Davis to go into the game for a goal line play, even when Davis told him he couldn’t even see because he had a migraine.
On the surface he appears to be a great fit for Griffin. Not so, in my opinion.
January 8th, 2013 at 3:45 am
And with the 3rd pick in the NFL Draft the oakland raiders select Linebacker from the University of Georgia Jarvis Jones… Im telling you guys he will be a raider in April watch. Hes a dominant pass rusher whos been compared to both Von miller and clay matthews. We all know how da feels about von and seen what he can do with a player like von, we all know reggie is a clay matthews and anything packers like fan, in a year where finding a pass rusher is top priority I dont see how they could pass on a guy whos regarded as the best pass rusher in the draft and is similar to players theyve had success with in the past. Reggie already said he likes our front D lineman so the pass rusher has to be a lb type. I truly believe jarvis will be the pick at 3 for us thats if hes there. But 77 tackles, 12.5 sacks, and 22.5 tackles for a loss and 7 forced fumbles against sec competition says the kids a player. He also looked good against bama with 2 sacks six tackles and a forced fumble, he outplayed te’o. JJ will be in silver and black next year, you heard it here first.
January 8th, 2013 at 3:49 am
Post 969 agreed, shannahan is a jak@zz.
January 8th, 2013 at 3:52 am
Jarvis Jones, Larry Grant, Phillip wheeler raider lb core 2013.
January 8th, 2013 at 4:03 am
Correction 14.5 sacks, 24.5 tackles for a loss.
January 8th, 2013 at 4:47 am
Just my 2 cents. I have a feeling that RG3’s knee was deemed needing surgury in the off season after it was whipped 4 games ago. It was loose, but he could still play at 70%. Once it was re tweeked in the 2nd quarter, he was really compromised and should have been pulled. Anyway, couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy (the Shannarat)!
Go TP! Guy sounds like a winner. Good character (won’t crap on Palmer, or anyone else when a mic is stuck in his face), a fighter, a leader, a cool head, great instincts, serious talents, and knows his limitations and is committed to working on them. Who can do more.
January 8th, 2013 at 5:15 am
Morning nation from NYC:
Mark me down for Jarvis Jones as our #1 pick.
Raiders revitilized 2013
January 8th, 2013 at 5:21 am
Didnt see last nite’s championship game… did Teo do anything to change the Nation’s mind to think they should take him at #3???
January 8th, 2013 at 5:25 am
Not even a little gossip from Jerry and Steve ’bout new coaches.
Feet made of concrete again by the Raiders.What happened to “footballs most dynamic organisation”?
January 8th, 2013 at 5:35 am
People bashing Jay Cutler are crazy.
Went to the AFC championship game 2 years ago, were 6-2 last year before they got hurt, and just went 10-6 with one of the toughest schedules in the NFL.
They had a stretch of consective games of Hous, SF, Minny, Sea, Minny, GB. 6 straight games against playoff teams, 4 who are still playing.
Jay Cutler is a fringe elite QB, and probably somewhere around the 7th or 8th best QB in the NFL.
January 8th, 2013 at 5:49 am
Jay Cutler is trash. Cmon. No really. 7th or 8th best? More like down in Phillip Rivers territory.
January 8th, 2013 at 5:50 am
As far as people saying “every year” some team falls in love with a player and trades up, not true at all.
Unless it is a QB, it rarely ever happens in the top 5 or even top 10.
As far as value goes, the Browns traded down from #3 to #4 last year, and got a 5th and 7th rounder. Uhhhh….lol
2011 you had the Julion Jones trade, but that was #6. Jax at #10, but for a QB.
2010 no top 10 movement, the Bronco’s made a ton of move for Tebow.
2009 Jets moved into #5 for Sanchez, Bucs at #17 for Freeman.
2008 no top 7 movement, 49ers traded their 1st the year before at #8
I went all the way back to 2002, NOT ONCE, did a team trade into the top 5 and not draft a QB, and about half the time there isn’t even a trade in the top 10.
Our trade down possibilitis are somewhere between slim to none. If we were picking in the middle of the first round, then we would have some serious possibilities, because that is where all the action takes place.
January 8th, 2013 at 5:51 am
GG Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 1:41 am
Draft the whole damn Alabama OL imo
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lol
Yeah, that LT looked jumbo sized compared to whoever was on him. Any RB could look like a star behind that push.
January 8th, 2013 at 5:52 am
Hey according to Dr. Rob’s QB rating rankings, Jay Cutler is the 28th best QB in NFL history, lol.
January 8th, 2013 at 5:54 am
I believe it was the Browns GIVING up a 5th and 7th to move up one spot to #3 for T Richardson. Not a terrible deal when you think about it. Minnesota was accepting offers from others who wanted to move up and Cleveland really wanted TRich.
It’s one lousy spot for a 5th and a 7th. Certainly not
worthy.
January 8th, 2013 at 5:55 am
Hey according to Dr. Rob’s QB rating rankings, Jay Cutler is the 28th best QB in NFL history, lol.
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I agree he’s the 28th best QB of this decade.
January 8th, 2013 at 5:59 am
Not even a little gossip from Jerry and Steve ’bout new coaches.
Feet made of concrete again by the Raiders.What happened to “footballs most dynamic organisation”?
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Hardcore media stonewalling or Reggie hybernating? I don’t want to hear that the best candidates are already getting plucked up and we are just waiting on table scrapes from the bargain barrel again. Time to up the ante and spend some $$ on real coaches/assistants.
January 8th, 2013 at 5:59 am
Good Morning Nation!
Raider-in-PA Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 5:21 am
Didnt see last nite’s championship game… did Teo do anything to change the Nation’s mind to think they should take him at #3???
Yes…he was run at all game long I heard and missed a lot of tackles…
January 8th, 2013 at 6:00 am
Jets just fired Sporano…Norv going there?
January 8th, 2013 at 6:05 am
Teo was run right at and over all night. In fairness, they got 2 bodies steamrolling him every play. I never wanted that guy at #3. Still don’t.
Give me the Germanator. Give me Werner.
January 8th, 2013 at 6:05 am
Good Morning Raider Nation!!! It’s a beautiful day to be a Raider fan, isn’t it?
January 8th, 2013 at 6:06 am
Jets just fired Sporano…Norv going there?
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Took long enough to make that decision. Why the long wait? NY Jets are a joke franchise is the only explanation I can fathom.
January 8th, 2013 at 6:07 am
Good Morning Raider Nation!!! It’s a beautiful day to be a Raider fan, isn’t it?
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Good Morning!!
It’s also a beautiful day to be a Bama fan. 3 Nat’l championships in 4 years. ‘Bama Dynasty’ has a nice ring to it.
January 8th, 2013 at 6:09 am
Morning, Hwnrdr. What happened yesterday? One of the most pleasant and least contentious days in blog history. I guess a little insurrection now and then is a good thing!
January 8th, 2013 at 6:11 am
believe it was the Browns GIVING up a 5th and 7th to move up one spot to #3 for T Richardson.
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Exactly, that is what we are looking at when a QB is not involved.
So based off that sliding scale, moving from #3 to maybe 6 or 7, would get a 4th and 6th rounder.
Not at all worth it, IMO.
January 8th, 2013 at 6:12 am
Morning, Guest. I think Rex is most of the joke, although I always liked his brother. Maybe just because he looked like am old school Raider. But then, so did Gallery.
January 8th, 2013 at 6:13 am
Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 6:09 am
Morning, Hwnrdr. What happened yesterday? One of the most pleasant and least contentious days in blog history. I guess a little insurrection now and then is a good thing!
Right?
January 8th, 2013 at 6:14 am
So based off that sliding scale, moving from #3 to maybe 6 or 7, would get a 4th and 6th rounder.
Not at all worth it, IMO.
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It really depends. If there are 4 prospects that are graded out fairly equally or enought intel to know that the guy you like at #3 will be there at #6 or #7, then why not do that deal and pick up a couple of picks? We need as many lottery tickets we can get and hope that one of them is a winner. It’s not sexy, but it’s how winning teams are built.
January 8th, 2013 at 6:16 am
986.hwnrdr Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 5:59 am
Good Morning Nation!
Raider-in-PA Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 5:21 am
Didnt see last nite’s championship game… did Teo do anything to change the Nation’s mind to think they should take him at #3???
Yes…he was run at all game long I heard and missed a lot of tackles…
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I saw an Alabama o-line that was blowing the ND linemen completely off the ball and getting to the second level with very little difficulty. I also saw an Albama running back that NOBODY is going to tackle one on one without a clear shot at him. It’s hard to fault the guy a whole lot when the other six members of his front seven were getting dominated like that.
I don’t know if he’s all that or not, but hard to judge last night.
January 8th, 2013 at 6:16 am
guest123 Says:
I agree he’s the 28th best QB of this decade.
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This current decade? Meaning ‘10, ‘11, ‘12? Maybe. Last 10 years, maybe lower.
January 8th, 2013 at 6:18 am
I think Rex is most of the joke, although I always liked his brother. Maybe just because he looked like am old school Raider. But then, so did Gallery.
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I agree. He’s got the clean cut look and his brother looks like a crazy mofo. But watch out for the clean cut dudes like Rex. He’s really a sick perv and can’t be trusted to run a team. I trust his moppy haired bro more than Rex.
January 8th, 2013 at 6:19 am
guest123 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 6:05 am
Teo was run right at and over all night. In fairness, they got 2 bodies steamrolling him every play. I never wanted that guy at #3. Still don’t.
Give me the Germanator. Give me Werner.
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I don’t do this very often but this is one of those rare cases where I will say i told you so. Not YOU guest personally but i expressed that despite all the hype around him i just had a bad feeling about wasting a top pick on this guy.
There was nothing about his play necessarily that blatantly screamed out ‘over rated’ before last night..i mean, he was defensive player of the year and all, but i just had the feeling that he wasn’t the dominant player everyone thought he was.
There were too many times in watching a ND game where the announcer would praise Teo for something he didn’t really do i guess.
Glad last night happened. It was one game, but it was a HUGE game and it’s obvious he’s been exposed.
I think his draft stock dropped considerably.
January 8th, 2013 at 6:20 am
It’s not sexy, but it’s how winning teams are built.
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I don’t know, Minny and Wash traded UP last year, playoffs. Rams and Browns traded down, and did they even improve?
Falcons made the move UP for Julio, and took it to the next level.
Hell even the Jets traded UP for Sanchez and made two championsip games. Who did they trade down with?
Cleveland again, lol. Cleveland has traded down 3 of the last 4 drafts.
No rule of thumb on it, but the teams trading UP of late, are the better teams.
January 8th, 2013 at 6:20 am
saw an Alabama o-line that was blowing the ND linemen completely off the ball and getting to the second level with very little difficulty. I also saw an Albama running back that NOBODY is going to tackle one on one without a clear shot at him. It’s hard to fault the guy a whole lot when the other six members of his front seven were getting dominated like that.
I don’t know if he’s all that or not, but hard to judge last night.
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How is that hard to judge him? Close your eyes and imagine Teo in the middle of our defense getting blown off the line. Is that an upgrade we are looking for or need?
January 8th, 2013 at 6:22 am
I used to make fun of Rob Ryan’s hair, until I learned he grows it all year, then cuts it off at seasons end for child Leukemia patients.
January 8th, 2013 at 6:23 am
Some guys say “well it’s Alabama and they’re a great offense with a great line”. Well….yes. If it’s understandable he wouldn’t do well against a tuff Bama offense how will he do against NFL offenses?
Jarvis Jones or Demontre Moore are looking good about now.
Teo could be a decent backup for a team or a post 3rd rounder flyer pick i guess.
January 8th, 2013 at 6:23 am
Rams came 2 minutes away from being undefeated in the NFC West…I say they improved! With 3 #1s and a couple of 2s…I say within a year or two…they will be back (unless Fisher has a melt down)!
January 8th, 2013 at 6:24 am
Don’t look now, but Cleveland is a team on the rise. They aced their last draft and even the supplemental on Josh Gordon was a great pick. And don’t look now, but that trade that Washington made for RG3 looks like a poison pill. RG3 is rumored to be out for up to 18 months. Who got the shaft in that deal? eh?
I’m just saying, the grading of those top of the first round trades is still incomplete. I think Cleveland is going to come out on top in the end.
January 8th, 2013 at 6:25 am
guest123 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 6:20 am
saw an Alabama o-line that was blowing the ND linemen completely off the ball and getting to the second level with very little difficulty. I also saw an Albama running back that NOBODY is going to tackle one on one without a clear shot at him. It’s hard to fault the guy a whole lot when the other six members of his front seven were getting dominated like that.
I don’t know if he’s all that or not, but hard to judge last night.
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How is that hard to judge him? Close your eyes and imagine Teo in the middle of our defense getting blown off the line. Is that an upgrade we are looking for or need?
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NOT with your 3rd pick overall in the draft.
January 8th, 2013 at 6:26 am
I used to make fun of Rob Ryan’s hair, until I learned he grows it all year, then cuts it off at seasons end for child Leukemia patients.
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Stand up guy. Looking at him and his bro is a good lesson in not judging a book by its cover.
January 8th, 2013 at 6:26 am
DJ Johnny Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 6:19 am
guest123 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 6:05 am
Teo was run right at and over all night. In fairness, they got 2 bodies steamrolling him every play. I never wanted that guy at #3. Still don’t.
Give me the Germanator. Give me Werner.
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I don’t do this very often but this is one of those rare cases where I will say i told you so. Not YOU guest personally but i expressed that despite all the hype around him i just had a bad feeling about wasting a top pick on this guy.
There was nothing about his play necessarily that blatantly screamed out ‘over rated’ before last night..i mean, he was defensive player of the year and all, but i just had the feeling that he wasn’t the dominant player everyone thought he was.
There were too many times in watching a ND game where the announcer would praise Teo for something he didn’t really do i guess.
Glad last night happened. It was one game, but it was a HUGE game and it’s obvious he’s been exposed.
I think his draft stock dropped considerably.
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I saw one reporter suggest he could drop out of the 1st round after last night.
I don’t think he was ever going top-10. I think that was a media fabrication. But he may have dropped from say the 10-15 range down to the mid 20s. I do think he’ll still go 1st round though.
January 8th, 2013 at 6:26 am
So if Te’o is overated…who picks the players of the year? Just asking…and besides, I understand that saying of imagine him in our backfield getting blown up…but to be fair, is there any OL in the NFL that dominant? Hey, I did say I was biased because he is a Hawaii boy and not defending him based on last night, but…
So I guess Star or Moore for #3?
January 8th, 2013 at 6:27 am
Sandy eggo canned AJ? Where’ve I been?
January 8th, 2013 at 6:28 am
1002.guest123 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 6:20 am
saw an Alabama o-line that was blowing the ND linemen completely off the ball and getting to the second level with very little difficulty. I also saw an Albama running back that NOBODY is going to tackle one on one without a clear shot at him. It’s hard to fault the guy a whole lot when the other six members of his front seven were getting dominated like that.
I don’t know if he’s all that or not, but hard to judge last night.
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How is that hard to judge him? Close your eyes and imagine Teo in the middle of our defense getting blown off the line. Is that an upgrade we are looking for or need?
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You’re sounding like he should have been dominating the game despite the fact that his teammates were getting manhandled out there. It’s his d-line’s job to keep him clean so he CAN do his job, but last night the RB was past the first level so fast that there wasn’t a lot he could have done about it in most cases.
As I said, I don’t know if he’s all that, but the rest of his front seven was so completely outclassed that it was hard to tell how good he really is (or isn’t).
January 8th, 2013 at 6:28 am
Yes, same day as Norv!
January 8th, 2013 at 6:28 am
I agree Hawaiian Raider. The Rams are going to be tough for years to come. Fisher is a very good HC and his defense is already top flight. I don’t believe in their QB Bradford, but they got some great pieces on both sides of the ball to take the next step.
They are going to reap a lot of benefits from the Redskins misery.
January 8th, 2013 at 6:29 am
I agree Ed!
January 8th, 2013 at 6:30 am
http://raidernationtimes.com/article.php?id=9535
Interesting thought on the OC job…
Also, reading you guys talk about A&M makes me so happy. Down here in TX the Aggies are considered the little brothers to the Longhorns.
All I heard was how they would be embarrassed and humiliated by the SEC and how stupid they were for leaving.
Then new HC Kevin Sumlin put his faith in a small, redshirt freshman named Johnny Manziel and the rest as they say is history.
Now I’m reading guys post from all over the nation talk about my Aggies… man, that is sweet.
January 8th, 2013 at 6:30 am
I’m just saying, the grading of those top of the first round trades is still incomplete. I think Cleveland is going to come out on top in the end.
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OK, I will hede some of my own advice that I told everyone in the Seymour trade, and let things play itself out.
Just saying, lots of short-term benefits in the trade up scenarios of late. Not so much in the trade down compartment.
And while you tell me “don’t look now” on the Browns, they traded out of the top 5 in 2009.
When are we supposed to start looking?
January 8th, 2013 at 6:31 am
I always wondered if potential high 1st round draft picks worried about getting injured in these bowl games.
There’s alot at risk if they do. If a potential top 5 pick goes down with a severe injury by going all out in his last game at college he runs the possibility of bagging groceries instead of collecting a multi million dollar contract.
January 8th, 2013 at 6:31 am
I’ve always thought Sparano was a bit of a goofball but he’s looked like a pretty good offensive mind at times. Can’t really blame him for anything with the Jets. Awful QB. Mediocre at best RB. Very below average receivers.
Not advocating for him as our OC. Just another name to throw in the mix.
January 8th, 2013 at 6:31 am
guest123 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 6:28 am
I agree Hawaiian Raider. The Rams are going to be tough for years to come. Fisher is a very good HC and his defense is already top flight. I don’t believe in their QB Bradford, but they got some great pieces on both sides of the ball to take the next step.
They are going to reap a lot of benefits from the Redskins misery.
They need to decide on what to do with Jackson, get some wr’s in there and maybe a piece or two on D and a good backup qb…but i agree! Bradford hasn’t really shown all that lately!
January 8th, 2013 at 6:31 am
mcfadden20. Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 12:16 am
RaiderSam Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 11:49 pm
Only team to beat Alabama
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L73hKMz4vkI
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Thanks man, I’m fan of that team, they play till the whistle, just the way i like this team to play
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GIG EM AGGIES!!!!
January 8th, 2013 at 6:33 am
No one is expecting a dominating game against a great team like Alabama. But ND got punked badly last night thrown around like rag dolls. If you are a highly touted defensive player of the year and all the accolades and every play getting driven on your backside, it’s a huge red flag you can’t ignore. He had game similar to Brian Bosworth vs Bo. Embarrassing, but he can’t separate himself from it either. He owns that performance into his draft.
January 8th, 2013 at 6:33 am
Don’t sleep on Jax still making it a bigger priority to sell tickets first (see fascination with Tebow) and they still take Te’O, if not at #2, then maybe if they CAN trade down a few spots.
Kiper said, granted before the game, that the ONLY WAY Jax wouldn’t take him #2 overall, is if he had a catastrophic injury.
So….we shall see.
January 8th, 2013 at 6:33 am
DJ Johnny Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 6:31 am
I always wondered if potential high 1st round draft picks worried about getting injured in these bowl games.
There’s alot at risk if they do. If a potential top 5 pick goes down with a severe injury by going all out in his last game at college he runs the possibility of bagging groceries instead of collecting a multi million dollar contract.
You may have a point there!
January 8th, 2013 at 6:34 am
Like frog giggin;?
January 8th, 2013 at 6:35 am
I rarely follow college, but where is this Moore kid from? Georgia?
January 8th, 2013 at 6:35 am
1017,
The trade down scenario worked well for the Rams and their # 2 pick last season going from 2-14 to 8-7-1 (?).
January 8th, 2013 at 6:36 am
If Jax takes Joechel at #2, he might, MIGHT, sell 500 jerseys before the season starts.
If they take Te’O, he will probably be a top 10 jersey in the NFL before the season starts.
New owner needs some ROI, selling tickets and generating revenue is priority #1, #2, and #3 in Jax right now.
Building a strong O-line for a 2016 playoff push is not in the equation.
January 8th, 2013 at 6:36 am
I take anything Kiper says with a grain of salt. But if Mayock is talking, I’ll listen.
January 8th, 2013 at 6:38 am
Rams were 7-8-1 last year, 7-9 in 2010.
They have treaded water for years.
But yes, they fleeced Washington for that kings ransom long term.
January 8th, 2013 at 6:38 am
The only thing I care about Jax right now is that they hopefully fire Mike Mularkey soon. I’d love to have him as our OC.
January 8th, 2013 at 6:39 am
Getting some reds and purples over the Sierras. Might be another awesome sunrise.
January 8th, 2013 at 6:40 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
Hey according to Dr. Rob’s QB rating rankings, Jay Cutler is the 28th best QB in NFL history, lol.
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Tony Romo #5. LMFAO
January 8th, 2013 at 6:41 am
Wonder if we could get anything in trade for Branch.
I’d much rather bring MM34 back. I think he’s a better player and would cost less than half as much. If we could get say a 3rd round pick for Branch I’d do it in a second.
January 8th, 2013 at 6:42 am
Getting some dust and shell casings, might be another awesome day in El Paso.
January 8th, 2013 at 6:42 am
1022.guest123 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 6:33 am
No one is expecting a dominating game against a great team like Alabama. But ND got punked badly last night thrown around like rag dolls. If you are a highly touted defensive player of the year and all the accolades and every play getting driven on your backside, it’s a huge red flag you can’t ignore. He had game similar to Brian Bosworth vs Bo. Embarrassing, but he can’t separate himself from it either. He owns that performance into his draft.
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I have to think that you’d didn’t really watch the game. You are grossly misrepresenting his performance. Embarrassing? Bosworth vs. Bo? Really?
I understand if you don’t want us to take him at 3. I don’t either, because I think we will have access to better players that can rush the passer or solidify the interior of our defense, but to say his individual performance last night was embarrassing is just not fair.
January 8th, 2013 at 6:43 am
I didn’t get to see the Texas A&M game, how did D. Moore look?
January 8th, 2013 at 6:43 am
MM34 is not an NFL starter, Branch at least is somewhat of one.
I like Mitchell, and think he is one of our best blitzers. Unfortunately, he might be the ony Safety in the NFL who makes Giordano look “rangy”.
Dude is entering his 5th year, he is what he is, a passionate ST guys and role player defensively.
If we bring him back, he is due a paycut.
January 8th, 2013 at 6:44 am
Getting some dust and shell casings, might be another awesome day in El Paso.
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Was offered a job in EP about 5 years ago. Considered it until the wife told me she wanted nothing to do with dust and shell casings. Said I’d be moving solo if I took the offer. Well that was that.
January 8th, 2013 at 6:44 am
Trade down? With no 2nd RD pick and a lot areas needing help – it’s a must do.
January 8th, 2013 at 6:45 am
1026,
Hmndr,
Texas A M
January 8th, 2013 at 6:46 am
I didn’t get to see last nights game due to being on the road, but on the dial Tirico and Blackledge were hammering Te’O for being “tentative” and missing tackles.
Blackledge even threw out the whole, “he won 7 awards in December and may have went to one too many banquets” line.
January 8th, 2013 at 6:46 am
I wanted to cut MM34 last year. Still don’t see the promise in him. At best he’s easily upgradable depth. Invite him to camp and on the roster bubble. If he makes the team, fine. But I hope we upgrade our depth this year.
January 8th, 2013 at 6:47 am
DJ Johnny Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 6:45 am
1026,
Hmndr,
Texas A M
Is he dominate? Keep hearing about him. I hear mixed about that Star kid though!
January 8th, 2013 at 6:48 am
Neilb Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 6:44 am
Trade down? With no 2nd RD pick and a lot areas needing help – it’s a must do.
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The problem is finding a trade partner willing to give that much up in a very weak draft class.
January 8th, 2013 at 6:48 am
El Paso can be kind of fun if you hang around the college area.
But I faciliate retirement plans for the employees of “federal housing” communiities.
Shops closes up at 4pm, before it gets dark, lol.
January 8th, 2013 at 6:48 am
Good to hear someone’s got nice weather.It’s rained all day here and the sun,not that I’ve seen any, is just about to go down.
January 8th, 2013 at 6:48 am
edward teach Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 6:42 am
1022.guest123 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 6:33 am
No one is expecting a dominating game against a great team like Alabama. But ND got punked badly last night thrown around like rag dolls. If you are a highly touted defensive player of the year and all the accolades and every play getting driven on your backside, it’s a huge red flag you can’t ignore. He had game similar to Brian Bosworth vs Bo. Embarrassing, but he can’t separate himself from it either. He owns that performance into his draft.
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I have to think that you’d didn’t really watch the game. You are grossly misrepresenting his performance. Embarrassing? Bosworth vs. Bo? Really?
I understand if you don’t want us to take him at 3. I don’t either, because I think we will have access to better players that can rush the passer or solidify the interior of our defense, but to say his individual performance last night was embarrassing is just not fair.
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Yeah. I don’t think he was that bad, individually. The entire defense was just overpursuing and tackling poorly. And the secondary was overmatched.
Can’t base things off of one game, but I’m a Notre Dame fan and I’ve said all along that he won’t be a Ray Lewis/Urlacher type difference-maker. He’ll be a solid player, but probably more valuable to a team that doesn’t have as many pressing needs as us.
Would be interesting if he winds up in Baltimore as Ray-Ray’s replacement.
January 8th, 2013 at 6:50 am
guest123 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 6:36 am
I take anything Kiper says with a grain of salt. But if Mayock is talking, I’ll listen.
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Me too, but Mayock had to eat alot of crow for lambasting Burfict as undraftable. He went on a long rant against him at the combine from what i remember, but owned up to it during the playoff game Saturday. He cited the great coaching at Cincinnati for motivating him.
Kiper will always be stained by his high praise for Jamarcus. ‘Franchise QB”. “Could be one of the top all time before it’s all said and done” etc.
January 8th, 2013 at 6:51 am
RaidingTexas Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 6:48 am
Neilb Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 6:44 am
Trade down? With no 2nd RD pick and a lot areas needing help – it’s a must do.
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The problem is finding a trade partner willing to give that much up in a very weak draft class.
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Yeah that’s the killer.I don’t follow the college game but from what’s been said on this site there’s not many stand out players that teams will want and trade up for.
January 8th, 2013 at 6:53 am
Adrian Peterson had a flop his last college game in an embarassing loss to Boise State.
Everyone thought he was going to run for 200+ yards, nobody held him under 100 that whole season, and he ended up with like 70 yards and a fumble.
So, I am sure people in NFL circles don’t have their shovels out ready to bury Te’O this morning.
January 8th, 2013 at 6:53 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 6:43 am
MM34 is not an NFL starter, Branch at least is somewhat of one.
I like Mitchell, and think he is one of our best blitzers. Unfortunately, he might be the ony Safety in the NFL who makes Giordano look “rangy”.
Dude is entering his 5th year, he is what he is, a passionate ST guys and role player defensively.
If we bring him back, he is due a paycut.
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I disagree. He shut down Graham in the NO game and I just don’t see where he’s getting beat in pass coverage. I watch every play of every game and it’s just something I almost never see, but maybe I’m missing something.
He plays with passion and energy and looks to knock people into dust on every play. Defense was much better with him on the field the last few games.
January 8th, 2013 at 6:54 am
I am a Kiper fan, his weekend radio show on ESPN radio is full of all kinds of great info.
January 8th, 2013 at 6:55 am
$$ ARE ALSO IN THE MIX IN THE TRADE DOWN CONSIDERATION..DONT HAVE TO PAY A TOP 5 PICK.
January 8th, 2013 at 6:56 am
hwnrdr Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 6:47 am
DJ Johnny Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 6:45 am
1026,
Hmndr,
Texas A M
Is he dominate? Keep hearing about him. I hear mixed about that Star kid though
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In watching the bowl game he was in he was double teamed most of the time but was pushing the line well. I didn’t come away from that game with the opinion he was dominant, but he was getting alot of praise from the analysts.
I’m not sure about Star. Other guys have seen more of him. I hear alot of really good things though.
I didn’t come away that impressed by Werner in the Fla. St game either and he’s supposed to be a top 10 pick by many.
January 8th, 2013 at 6:57 am
He got burnt for a TD the last week of the season, on a corner route.
Plus, he isn’t asked to cover very often.
He started the Bucs game, and was victimized on every single of those long runs by Martin, often times on fly-bys without being blocked.
We were playing 11 on 10 that whole game due to the “Missile”.
January 8th, 2013 at 6:58 am
How did I forget about the money?
January 8th, 2013 at 6:59 am
Defense was much better with him on the field the last few games.
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He was used primarily on 3rd downs blitzing, which is a great role for him, and he excelled at putting some pressure on the pocket (no sacks though).
Still, his snap % is in the 30% range. He is on the field for 1 of 3 plays.
January 8th, 2013 at 6:59 am
So who’s going first and second?
January 8th, 2013 at 6:59 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
Getting some dust and shell casings, might be another awesome day in El Paso.
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Shell casings? Blowing in the wind, or scattered about with the sun glinting off ‘em like Texas gold?
January 8th, 2013 at 7:00 am
$$ ARE ALSO IN THE MIX IN THE TRADE DOWN CONSIDERATION..DONT HAVE TO PAY A TOP 5 PICK.
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Doesn’t matter as much anymore with the locked in rookie wage scale. Top picks are actually bargains compared to yesteryear.
January 8th, 2013 at 7:00 am
RaidingTexas Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 6:40 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
Hey according to Dr. Rob’s QB rating rankings, Jay Cutler is the 28th best QB in NFL history, lol.
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Tony Romo #5. LMFAO
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I don’t think it’s his list it’s just the all time QB rankings by their rating.
I think he was throwing it out there to guys who were referring to Palmer as “crap” and “garbage” etc.
January 8th, 2013 at 7:01 am
Pass rusher is definitely our biggest need, but I’m not sure there’s a great one in this draft. No one I’d really want at No. 3.
For me it’s:
1. If Luke Joeckel, LT, Texas A&M is there you pounce on the pick. Build a dominant offensive line around Joeckel, Veldheer and Wiz2.
2. If Joeckel’s not there, trade down. Even if you have to go back 10+ spots but can pick up a 2nd rounder.
3. Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah. Has a chance to be a difference-making NT.
January 8th, 2013 at 7:02 am
Te’o in Baltimore? Hmmm…
I am one who wanted Te’o (and O) butI have t o change my stance on it! Proud of my Hawaii boys (Te’o and Mariota) and I wish them luck throughout there perspective careers!
So is D. Moore worth taking at #3? I know many here have said that…or should we go a different rout? I do believe that we need lineman, and if not, has to be D!
January 8th, 2013 at 7:04 am
Sorry Johnny, just sen your post!
January 8th, 2013 at 7:05 am
Werner is a beast DE who gets to the QB and has a non-stop motor. Can play a 4-3 DE or 3-4 LB. Fits a need and no matter what the draftninks say I’ve seen a lot of him. Whoever gets him is getting a Jared Allen type impact rusher.
January 8th, 2013 at 7:06 am
I would rather have Warner over Moore, but don’t think you could go too wrong either way.
January 8th, 2013 at 7:06 am
1066,
Really? I’ll take your word for it. I just saw him in the game against NIU.
January 8th, 2013 at 7:06 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 6:57 am
He got burnt for a TD the last week of the season, on a corner route.
Plus, he isn’t asked to cover very often.
He started the Bucs game, and was victimized on every single of those long runs by Martin, often times on fly-bys without being blocked.
We were playing 11 on 10 that whole game due to the “Missile”.
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Not asked to cover? What the hell are they having him do? It’s not like he’s blitzing 10+ times a game and he was our starting SS the last several weeks.
McClain, and really the entire defense was to blame for the TB runs. Branch was our SS that day.
January 8th, 2013 at 7:07 am
Edward Teach, post 969.
Right on man.
I think Shanahan, a great offensive mind, made one of the stupidest decisions I have ever seen last sunday and I’m not even talking about RGIII’s long-term health.
I’m talking about winning the game which was obviously his biggest concern, not III’s health.
First of all, did he not get Cousins ready to play during the week knowing RG might be forced out of the game? stupid.
Then, you are spotted a 14 point lead in the 1st quarter, RG is hurt and you have Cousins who only came in (without much preparation, if any) and won the Ravens game for you and then won the next game to keep you alive and you don’t get him into the game?.
You are up 14 and your QB can’t move well or throw with any accuracy, get Cousins in there to manage the game, the Defense almost pulled the game off but they were spent at the end, I think Cousins could have kept some drives alive and given them another 6-10 points if you kept running Morris and throwing on play-action, Cousins could have won that game for them.
And then you see every NFL pundit come to Shanny’s defense syaing RGIII told him he could play, so he made the right call…please, every week we hear just the opposite, that some guys won’t take themselves out of a game so it’s the coaches job to pull them off.
Anyway, F Shanny!.
January 8th, 2013 at 7:08 am
1065,
No problem Hwndr.
January 8th, 2013 at 7:08 am
Agreed, Werner or Moore would be great additions at a position of most need. I’m not too keen on drafting the next star LT. I still remember the last time we tried with Bob Gallery at #2 overall. Ouch! We can’t afford to ease in a player gradually with the #3 pick. We need immediate impact. Werner or Moore’s impact either one of them would be immediate.
January 8th, 2013 at 7:09 am
Chris In NY Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 6:53 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 6:43 am
MM34 is not an NFL starter, Branch at least is somewhat of one.
I like Mitchell, and think he is one of our best blitzers. Unfortunately, he might be the ony Safety in the NFL who makes Giordano look “rangy”.
Dude is entering his 5th year, he is what he is, a passionate ST guys and role player defensively.
If we bring him back, he is due a paycut.
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I disagree. He shut down Graham in the NO game and I just don’t see where he’s getting beat in pass coverage. I watch every play of every game and it’s just something I almost never see, but maybe I’m missing something.
He plays with passion and energy and looks to knock people into dust on every play. Defense was much better with him on the field the last few games.
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if i remember correctly graham had 6 receptions and a TD in a blowout win. Mitchell didnt play well against TB or NO where he got good PT and maybe you should watch the gates TD in the last game again. MM34 isnt our biggest problem but he’s questionable as being part of the solution
January 8th, 2013 at 7:10 am
I don’t see Werner as a bigtime difference maker. Solid, but not dominant player. Don’t see him as Jared Allen 2.0. Maybe Chris Long 2.0 but I’m not sure he’s even that great. High motor, strong guy, but not explosively quick to come off the edge.
Not much different from Shaughnessy, IMO.
January 8th, 2013 at 7:11 am
We need speed off the edge if we draft DE or OLB at 3. Not another guy in the Houston/Shaughnessy mold. We need a guy who can get the quick pressure off the edge on the QB. Not guys who need 4-5 seconds to beat down the o-lineman in front of them.
January 8th, 2013 at 7:11 am
I feel very bad for RG3. He’s a class act and a warrior to tough it out. But Shanny’s decision to play him thru injury backfired bigtime. And it couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy.
January 8th, 2013 at 7:11 am
Chris In NY Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 7:01 am
Pass rusher is definitely our biggest need, but I’m not sure there’s a great one in this draft. No one I’d really want at No. 3.
For me it’s:
1. If Luke Joeckel, LT, Texas A&M is there you pounce on the pick. Build a dominant offensive line around Joeckel, Veldheer and Wiz2.
2. If Joeckel’s not there, trade down. Even if you have to go back 10+ spots but can pick up a 2nd rounder.
3. Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah. Has a chance to be a difference-making NT.
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I think its
Werner
Star
then Joeckel
Maybe Reid has learned his lesson from the disaster after Jon Runyan left and Jason Peters was finished…his QB declined from that moment on
OL first
then Barkley/Kolb or Glennon/Vick with 2nd round pick/and FA
that leaves us either Werner or Star – and we dont run a 3-4, so we go with best athlete available.
Bjorn Werner is likely the pick
if its a trade down with St. Louis for the 16th pick – which i doubt, bc it would be Star at 3 overall giving them a super stout defensive front with a Haynesworth like goon at DT (Louletelei) and that would give Raiders Ezekial Ansah, Dee Milliner, Demontre Moore or Jonathan Hankins at 16 overall – and then a corner/OL/ILB/DT with the additional pick in the following round
January 8th, 2013 at 7:13 am
Bob Marley Says: Anyway, F Shanny!.
Amen. Period.
January 8th, 2013 at 7:13 am
nycraider Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 7:09 am
Chris In NY Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 6:53 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 6:43 am
MM34 is not an NFL starter, Branch at least is somewhat of one.
I like Mitchell, and think he is one of our best blitzers. Unfortunately, he might be the ony Safety in the NFL who makes Giordano look “rangy”.
Dude is entering his 5th year, he is what he is, a passionate ST guys and role player defensively.
If we bring him back, he is due a paycut.
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I disagree. He shut down Graham in the NO game and I just don’t see where he’s getting beat in pass coverage. I watch every play of every game and it’s just something I almost never see, but maybe I’m missing something.
He plays with passion and energy and looks to knock people into dust on every play. Defense was much better with him on the field the last few games.
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if i remember correctly graham had 6 receptions and a TD in a blowout win. Mitchell didnt play well against TB or NO where he got good PT and maybe you should watch the gates TD in the last game again. MM34 isnt our biggest problem but he’s questionable as being part of the solution
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That TD came on the goalline and was clearly the result of a blown coverage by Burris. Graham had like 25 yards receiving in that game.
The Gates TD was a great pass to a great TE. Mitchell had good coverage on the play, but Rivers made a great throw to a great TE. Not the first time those guys have connected on a score.
January 8th, 2013 at 7:13 am
Werner impressed me in the NIU game, more so for his instincts and motor.
There was a play I remember where it was a WR screen to the other side of the field he lined up on, diagnosed right at the snap and coming flying down the LOS and helped with the gang-tackle.
I really like the Jared Allen comparision.
January 8th, 2013 at 7:16 am
Chris NY.
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Chris in NY Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 7:01 am
Pass rusher is definitely our biggest need, but I’m not sure there’s a great one in this draft. No one I’d really want at No. 3.
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I felt the same way, but after looking up this Damontre Moore kid…
First of all, I didn’t know he had played DE in a 4-3 this year, that’s big plus when you factor in that he previosuly played OLB in the 3-4 in 2011 and he’s been known to move around all over the line looking for the best match-up, that kind of flexibility is very valuable.
Then there’s the fact that he’s just 20 years old and won’t turn 21 until september, the fact that he excelled vs SEC competition as a 19-20 year old is impressive and he will only get better as his body matures under NFL training, this is a major factor as the kid has plenty of room to grow and improve as he gets older.
So, I’m starting to get a bit more comfortable with where we stand now, Joeckel, Star or Damontre should make for good picks.
January 8th, 2013 at 7:16 am
Cutler had it right, you are young and have long-term security due to the team handing you the keys to the franchise, and you don’t monkey around with a knee issue.
IR’GIII acted like that was the only time he will play in a playoff game and ruined his teams chance to win and his long-term health.
That was much more stupid than courageous.
January 8th, 2013 at 7:17 am
Chris NY.
What do you think?.
Damontre Moore may turn into a 6′4 275 all-around DE once he hits the props.
Definitely worth checking out closely.
January 8th, 2013 at 7:18 am
I think it’s flawed to look at draftnicks boards and automatically slot us with whoever consensus opinion deems as worthy of the #3 pick. We should pick who we think most helps us. We get an impact player and doesn’t matter what they say about us. Remember the Jaguars took Tyson Alaula as a top 10 pick and got panned by the ESPN talking heads. They came out alright though.
January 8th, 2013 at 7:18 am
I wanted to be more impressed with Moore, and as the game got longer and more lopsided, he looked better.
But one of the first series he came in unblockd and that big ol FB for OU (who looks like a pro player as well) just completely flattened him. Knocked him on his azz.
Seems a little “leggy” to be a OLB, IMO, need to stay in the LOS so you can’t be cut as easily.
January 8th, 2013 at 7:18 am
All right, got to go save the world, enjoyed the quality convo this AM.
Raider On
January 8th, 2013 at 7:21 am
Give McFadden an Oline like Alabama’s and watch the transformation. CP3 wouldn’t have those 7 fumbles either and a lot less INT’s.
January 8th, 2013 at 7:22 am
Didn’t watch the Cotton Bowl, did Moore’s stock rise after that game?
January 8th, 2013 at 7:23 am
JFB.
Seems a little “leggy” to be a OLB, IMO, need to stay in the LOS so you can’t be cut as easily.
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I agree, Damontre looks like a 4-3 DE to me, specially once he fills out his body.
January 8th, 2013 at 7:23 am
Let’s be real. The Chiefs or Jags would destroy the Crimson Tide in an actual game. Transplant the Bama OL to the Raiders and watch them get rolled. College aint the same.
January 8th, 2013 at 7:24 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 5:50 am
As far as people saying “every year” some team falls in love with a player and trades up, not true at all.
Unless it is a QB, it rarely ever happens in the top 5 or even top 10.
As far as value goes, the Browns traded down from #3 to #4 last year, and got a 5th and 7th rounder. Uhhhh….lol
2011 you had the Julion Jones trade, but that was #6. Jax at #10, but for a QB.
2010 no top 10 movement, the Bronco’s made a ton of move for Tebow.
2009 Jets moved into #5 for Sanchez, Bucs at #17 for Freeman.
2008 no top 7 movement, 49ers traded their 1st the year before at #8
I went all the way back to 2002, NOT ONCE, did a team trade into the top 5 and not draft a QB, and about half the time there isn’t even a trade in the top 10.
Our trade down possibilitis are somewhere between slim to none. If we were picking in the middle of the first round, then we would have some serious possibilities, because that is where all the action takes place.
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You have to remember, the rookie salary cap has only been in place for what, 2 years?
So anything before then was too expensive. GMs may have wanted desperately to get out of the top ten but nobody wanted to take on the salary involved unless it was a QB.
There simply isn’t enough info here to make many conclusions.
I’m guessing if McK wants out of the pick bad enough someone would be willing.
January 8th, 2013 at 7:26 am
if we draft star we can go multiple on d.
January 8th, 2013 at 7:27 am
boss01 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 7:21 am
Give McFadden an Oline like Alabama’s and watch the transformation. CP3 wouldn’t have those 7 fumbles either and a lot less INT’s.
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LOL!
Please tell me your kidding! Are you saying that not only will all of Alabama’s linemen make the NFL, that they all will be STARTERS?
Cmon man… you can do better.
January 8th, 2013 at 7:28 am
Either Moore or Werner has the versatility of playing 4-3 DE or 3-4 OLB. Huge need filled by either guy. Would love to trade down and still get Moore and picks.
January 8th, 2013 at 7:29 am
We’ll have alot to talk about once we get our new OC in.
I am optimistic at all the possibilities and it could lead to some major differences.
-Palmer put in position to be the best he can be and not forced into some system that doesn’t fit his strengths. You may not like Palmer long term but they are paying him a ton of money to be our QB. We may as well give him a shot at getting the most out of him.
-DMAC. Run the stuff DMAC excels at, not force him to do things he doesn’t do well.
Those two things alone could do wonders for our offense.
Simply put players in position to do things they are good at. Don’t force some “system” on them that doesn’t fit the talent you have.
I know some say you need a system first ..then u get the guys to fit it, but imo until you actually have those players to fit your pre-disposed system, you go with the players’ strengths.
January 8th, 2013 at 7:30 am
Yup, but…are we running out of time for an OC worth a dam? I guess right now, anything is better than Knapp!
January 8th, 2013 at 7:32 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
Adrian Peterson had a flop his last college game in an embarassing loss to Boise State.
Everyone thought he was going to run for 200+ yards, nobody held him under 100 that whole season, and he ended up with like 70 yards and a fumble.
So, I am sure people in NFL circles don’t have their shovels out ready to bury Te’O this morning.
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Yeah, but running backs have bad games a lot more frequently than linebackers do. Even in the NFL, AP has had bad games. He had one last weekend. He had SIX games this season with less than 90 yards. Emmitt Smith had lots of bad games. Eric Dickerson did. They all do.
But how many ugly games – where they just looked completely lost on the field – do you remember Ray Lewis, Bill Romanowski, Derrick Thomas, and Lawrence Taylor having?
I’d say last night was a huge red flag about T’eo. I have to think his stock dropped a whole lot if it was ever high to begin with.
January 8th, 2013 at 7:32 am
1090.guest123 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 7:23 am
Let’s be real. The Chiefs or Jags would destroy the Crimson Tide in an actual game. Transplant the Bama OL to the Raiders and watch them get rolled. College aint the same.
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They have at least 3 guys on that Oline at least 6′5 over 300 lbs
January 8th, 2013 at 7:33 am
I’m starting to focus in on star. Which normally means that he will either be drafted right before us or right after us and that’ll probably do very very well..
January 8th, 2013 at 7:34 am
1093.Gdog Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 7:27 am
boss01 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 7:21 am
Give McFadden an Oline like Alabama’s and watch the transformation. CP3 wouldn’t have those 7 fumbles either and a lot less INT’s.
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LOL!
Please tell me your kidding! Are you saying that not only will all of Alabama’s linemen make the NFL, that they all will be STARTERS?
Cmon man… you can do better.
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I am saying at least 3 of their starting linemen are over 6′5 300+, bigger and better than any of the Raiders linemen….so do some research first before you spew garbage
January 8th, 2013 at 7:35 am
Id call norv
January 8th, 2013 at 7:36 am
We only have 2 nfl starters on our line…
January 8th, 2013 at 7:37 am
There was an article awhile back that examined statistically how the top ten draft picks turned out… and IIRC, o-line had the best percentage BY FAR. Many people look at Gallery as a bust, but he was a starter for what, 6-7 years. A bust is a player riding the pine in three years, and then out of football… and many of them are defensive players *cough… MCCLAIN .
That is why I hope McK uses his top ten pick on an o-lineman… for three reasons.
1. Statistically they are the surest things.
2. They almost always start right away.
3. WE NEED THE HELP!
January 8th, 2013 at 7:37 am
1102.Marks hair Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 7:36 am
We only have 2 nfl starters on our line…
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And ZERO All-Pro’s
January 8th, 2013 at 7:38 am
Raiders versus Alabama last night.. Raiders lose by 6
January 8th, 2013 at 7:41 am
Do we give Palmer more credit then for getting the ball out quickly?
I don’t recall this season being one where he seemed to be under alot of duress and he’s known as being pretty immobile.
He does have a knack for avoiding the killer sack. He has more sneaky little moves than alot give him credit for, but overall it didn’t seem like he was constantly pressured.
January 8th, 2013 at 7:41 am
1103. Very true.. when I make draft picks I normally pick my favorite player and then I’ll say or oline
January 8th, 2013 at 7:42 am
DJ Johnny Says:
-Palmer put in position to be the best he can be and not forced into some system that doesn’t fit his strengths. You may not like Palmer long term but they are paying him a ton of money to be our QB. We may as well give him a shot at getting the most out of him.
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I was so jacked before the season looking at our offense, and even with Knapps hiring I hoped he was older, wiser and would be way more flexible in working with what we were as opposed to his idealized vision of an offense. Hah! Pissed away a year of Palmer’s career and maybe Dmac’s.
January 8th, 2013 at 7:42 am
2012 Raiders >>>>>> 2012 Crimson Tide
January 8th, 2013 at 7:42 am
I am saying at least 3 of their starting linemen are over 6′5 300+, bigger and better than any of the Raiders linemen….so do some research first before you spew garbage
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Ok crazy person. Are you honestly comparing the NFL to COLLEGE?
Really?
And I am spewing “garbage?”
I’m guessing MAYBE two of ALA’s linemen become starters in the NFL… only one is tabbed to go in the first round.
Look at the center that gained so much attention for forgetting the snap count. He’s a big fat fluffball.
January 8th, 2013 at 7:43 am
Well, I agree with picking the players and running with their strengths, but I hope we have an OC in place by April…lol
January 8th, 2013 at 7:44 am
Need to find an All-Pro LT and move Veldheer (Not an All-Pro) over to RT. Gimme Alabama’s LT.
January 8th, 2013 at 7:44 am
hope we have an OC in place by April…lol
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I hope we have one for the Senior Bowl!
January 8th, 2013 at 7:44 am
Cp3 wasnt under alot of pressure because he got tge ball out so quick. Dinks and dunks.. we need a rt
January 8th, 2013 at 7:44 am
Marks hair Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 7:38 am
Raiders versus Alabama last night.. Raiders lose by 6
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Ok, there’s crazy and then their is just plain STUPID.
I will try back later.
poof
January 8th, 2013 at 7:45 am
Jay Glazer reporting that he hasn’t heard about any candidates but was toldfrom source that the Raiders are looking for an OC who can run a High Octane Offense.
January 8th, 2013 at 7:47 am
1110.Gdog Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 7:42 am
I am saying at least 3 of their starting linemen are over 6′5 300+, bigger and better than any of the Raiders linemen….so do some research first before you spew garbage
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Ok crazy person. Are you honestly comparing the NFL to COLLEGE?
Really?
And I am spewing “garbage?”
I’m guessing MAYBE two of ALA’s linemen become starters in the NFL… only one is tabbed to go in the first round.
Look at the center that gained so much attention for forgetting the snap count. He’s a big fat fluffball.
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I’m saying when they get to the NFL, at least 2 or 3, they will be 10 times better than Carlisle or Barnes or Brisiel. OL is as big a need as DL right now.
January 8th, 2013 at 7:49 am
Marley,
I was as shocked as you were. Griffin was running around on one leg, for crying out loud, and couldn’t even THROW the ball in his condition. Cousins has proved that he is capable of running that offense, and would probably have saved the game for them.
Couldn’t believe it then, still don’t. A boneheaded decision for the ages.
January 8th, 2013 at 7:50 am
Ok, I’ll admit. I’m an older guy. But anyone else embarrased for Brent Musbergur last night when the kept panning to the AL QB’s girlfriend. Brent the old hornball was trying everything he could to keep it in his pants. I think he made even Herbstreet blush. We get it Brent. She’s cute. Your 80. Put the viagra down. It gave me the weeby jeevies watching him verbally undress her.
January 8th, 2013 at 7:53 am
PurpleDrank81 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 7:45 am
Jay Glazer reporting that he hasn’t heard about any candidates but was toldfrom source that the Raiders are looking for an OC who can run a High Octane Offense.
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I love hearing that. I hope it’s true.
January 8th, 2013 at 7:53 am
1116.PurpleDrank81 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 7:45 am
Jay Glazer reporting that he hasn’t heard about any candidates but was toldfrom source that the Raiders are looking for an OC who can run a High Octane Offense.
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That should put us in the driver’s seat because I’m sure nobody else is looking for something like that.
January 8th, 2013 at 7:56 am
Gdog is absolutley correct about the Oline.
It is also the heart of your football team. We must have the best oline in the AFC west to keep Peyton off the field.
That all being said, last night’s game is a classic example of what I have been saying for my entire football life.
A great linebacker is only as good as the lineman in front of him.
If the Oline gets to the second level, linebackers get neutralized and disappear.
Ray Lewis threatened to retire unless Baltimore replaced Siragusa and they finally drafted Ngata.
Line rebuilds are the biggest priority for the Raiders for the next two drafts.
January 8th, 2013 at 7:56 am
Let’s sort out our OC short list candidates:
High octane candidates over here….
Medium octane candidates over there…
low octane ethanol laced candidates here…
January 8th, 2013 at 8:01 am
1123.guest123 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 7:56 am
Let’s sort out our OC short list candidates:
High octane candidates over here….
Medium octane candidates over there…
low octane ethanol laced candidates here…
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And then there’s the Greg Knapp candidate group; out of fuel and standing by the side of the road with their thumbs out.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:03 am
It was a year early for ND to be in the title game. I only had to watch about 3 minutes of the game last night and I knew it was over.
Great recruiting classes coming in for the Irish thanks to this run, so not all is lost.
ND would still beat the Raiders….by a fg….Bama would beat thee Raiders by 20 lol.
At least I still have the Lakers…..oh crap, never mind.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:03 am
This is the Raiders so you need steam driven candidates list aswell.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:03 am
Im taking star or jock. Studs.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:03 am
Good morning Nation.
Te’o lacks speed, and has issues shedding blocks and tackling against good talent.
He looks like Maualuga or McClain.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:05 am
ND was/ is overrated, and it showed yesterday.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:05 am
What better way to liven up a boring BCS title game than to have ESPN play-by-play man Brent Musburger, 73, become a dirty old man after spotting the girlfriend of Alabama quarterback AJ McCarron in the stands.
That’s what happened in the first quarter on Monday. With Alabama leading, 14-0, the ESPN cameras found McCarron’s girlfriend, Katherine Webb, in the stands. Musburger was intrigued.
“You quarterbacks, you get all the good-looking women,” Musburger said. “What a beautiful woman.”
“Wow!” analyst Kirk Herbstreit said.
“Whoa!” Musburger said. “If you’re a youngster in Alabama, start getting the football out and throw it around the backyard with Pop.”
Meanwhile, most of America got a little grossed out.
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Grossed me out, I think even Herbstreet meant “Wow” in manner that Musberger didn’t comprehend. Wow – as in you sick old basturd.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:06 am
1- Star
2- Moore
3- JJ
4- Milliner
January 8th, 2013 at 8:06 am
Marks hair Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 7:38 am
Raiders versus Alabama last night.. Raiders lose by 6
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I assume you’re joking. Some people really think that way though.
Bama would lose by however much an NFL team wanted to pour it on. You’re talking about 19-22 year olds, maybe a quarter of whom will spend time on an NFL roster and maybe 2 or 3 will be noteworthy once there.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:06 am
PurpleDrank81 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 7:45 am
Jay Glazer reporting that he hasn’t heard about any candidates but was toldfrom source that the Raiders are looking for an OC who can run a High Octane Offense.
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Great, we are going to hire June Jones and run the run and shoot!
January 8th, 2013 at 8:07 am
edward teach Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 8:01 am
1123.guest123 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 7:56 am
Let’s sort out our OC short list candidates:
High octane candidates over here….
Medium octane candidates over there…
low octane ethanol laced candidates here…
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And then there’s the Greg Knapp candidate group; out of fuel and standing by the side of the road with their thumbs out.
LOL, I can just hear the theme for The Incredible Hulk from the 70’s…
January 8th, 2013 at 8:08 am
Dakota Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 8:06 am
PurpleDrank81 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 7:45 am
Jay Glazer reporting that he hasn’t heard about any candidates but was toldfrom source that the Raiders are looking for an OC who can run a High Octane Offense.
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Great, we are going to hire June Jones and run the run and shoot!
As much as I like June Jones…the run and shoot…NO!
January 8th, 2013 at 8:13 am
Of course i was joking… we can still beat college teams.lol even with krapp calling plays..but its been a rough yr
January 8th, 2013 at 8:13 am
Chris in NY Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 8:06 am
Marks hair Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 7:38 am
Raiders versus Alabama last night.. Raiders lose by 6
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I assume you’re joking. Some people really think that way though.
Bama would lose by however much an NFL team wanted to pour it on. You’re talking about 19-22 year olds, maybe a quarter of whom will spend time on an NFL roster and maybe 2 or 3 will be noteworthy once there.
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No kidding… even if there is one lineman that doesn’t belong in the NFL, he would get tossed aside like a rag doll and whatever they wanted to do through that hole would happen. The blitzing alone through that hole would kill any QB.. he’s be carried off in a stretcher. A college team would be lucky to score a single FG against any NFL team… it would literally be 140-3.
Please people… we can do better than this.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:14 am
Raider O Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 8:05 am
ND was/ is overrated, and it showed yesterday.
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Maybe, but Saban with 6 weeks to prepare, especially for a team with some flaws, is a tough matchup.
Alabama made LSU look just as bad in last year’s NC game. At least on offense. LSU couldn’t even get the ball past the 50 yard line until like the 4th quarter. And that’s an LSU team that beat them earlier in the year. Final margin in that one was 21. Last night’s was 28.
Saban is 4-0 in NC games with wins over two Big 12 teams, one SEC team and Notre Dame. Margin in those games was 121-49 and the outcome in all four was pretty much never in doubt.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:16 am
Teo looks like a mini slo.. but at least he hustles..
January 8th, 2013 at 8:16 am
Raider O
Last night was not a Te’O issue it was a dline issue.
With the exception of maybe Lwarence Taylor I have never seen a linebacker succesfully take on offensive lineman consistently getting to the second level. Not possible.They get worn down and the gains are consistently 3-4 yards.
You need a Dline to penetrate or at a minimum create a stalemate with the Oline.
Last night was a textbook example of how an entire team can look very vulnerable when they lose the battle at the line of scrimmage.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:20 am
Bob Marley Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 7:17 am
Chris NY.
What do you think?.
Damontre Moore may turn into a 6′4 275 all-around DE once he hits the props.
Definitely worth checking out closely.
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I like Moore, but I don’t expect him to be a superstar. I kind of see a 8-10 sack a year guy who can hold the edge. I don’t think he’ll be that persistent pass rushing force we desperately need (but that’s not easy to find).
I like him best of the DE/OLBs out there though. If you wanted to swing for the fences maybe I’d go with Dion Jordan out of Oregon instead, but I think he’s a little more book/bust than Moore.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:21 am
Last night was a textbook example of how an entire team can look very vulnerable when they lose the battle at the line of scrimmage.
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Yup. Alabama just got behind Jones and Warmack and that ended the game. ND had nothing they could do to stop those two guys.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:21 am
Jebuz, I see what you guys mean about JETSPN. Don’t watch it much, but twenty minutes (so far) Jest press conference. Who F’n cares that much, east coast or not!
January 8th, 2013 at 8:21 am
Trouble is, the Raiders situation does not seem like an appealing one for potential OC candidates.
I would think league perception is that DA is a bad start away from getting fired, so young, up-and-coming position coaches looking to make the jump to OC may not wanna risk coming here on what could be a one and done deal and then have to look for another job next offseason, specially with so many other openings available.
And how comfortable would DA be working with an established OC such as Turner, Morninwheg, Sparano or some other guy with HC in his resume? he may feel that guy is a threat to his job and might replace him by mid-season.
We are in a tough spot IMO, our best hope would be Al Saunders or to hit the jackpot with a young, unproven guy who nobody is considering and jumps at the chance of a big, unexpected promotion.
Or someone out of a job who has fallen out of favor, such as Jeremy Bates, Bob Bratkowski or Cam Cameron.
I have an outside the box suggestion by the way: Jim Fassel.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:23 am
guest123 Says:
hope we have an OC in place by April…lol
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I hope we have one for the Senior Bowl!
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Maybe hope we don’t have one by September. Saunders by default.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:24 am
Yeah but even when Te’o or the other LB’s got through they couldn’t tackle. It just shows what a sham the BCS rankings are. ND didn’t belong in the stadium with Alabama.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:24 am
1140.
Agreed. The DL’s were getting pushed back into the LB’s and the LB’s looked like they were on ice skates. It’s hard to blame them, but really the entire defense wore down gradually and lost their will. Herbstreit called it the “kill-will” and that’s exactly what it looked like. Game over pretty much just minutes into the game. As a Bama fan, I was very bored, hoping for some action. I fell asleep literally at half and woke up a bit for the third qtr only to fall asleep midway thru the 4th. ND was no match and it was a very forgettable game.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:28 am
My wife who doesn’t watch or care about football commented to me that the Alabama coach is a very good coach and the Raiders should go out and buy him. I told her we couldn’t afford him. What about his coordinators she asked? Probably not them either. Made me reflect on our coaching staff for a minute.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:29 am
BCS is a shame, imagine an 8 team playoff system with games played mid-week starting on January 1st…then we’d have playoff football on weekends and college on wednesdays-thursdays, rotate the bowls so every year the championship is played on a different one.
Why is that so hard?.
Keep the little bowls for also rans, they will still make money.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:33 am
guest123 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 8:28 am
My wife who doesn’t watch or care about football commented to me that the Alabama coach is a very good coach and the Raiders should go out and buy him. I told her we couldn’t afford him. What about his coordinators she asked? Probably not them either. Made me reflect on our coaching staff for a minute.
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Which kind of brings up my point. Since we are not going to be able to attact Jimmy Johnson or Bill Polian here, maybe the best thing we can do is get behind guys like McKenzie, Allen and Palmer since they have been proven to be successful in this league and stop crying, whining and tearing our Rich Gannon chargers asunder.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:34 am
College football has it all wrong. They own Saturdays from August to November and then let up the whole month of December running these clown bowls that nobody gives a frigg about. Then it comes back out of hibernation for one lousy game.
Does College Basketball take a month off from their conference tourneys to the championships? They strike while the iron’s hot is what they do.
NCAA is so backward, they don’t understand the money they are losing, chasing after nickels when dollars are blowing away in the wind.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:36 am
guest123 Says:
Ok, I’ll admit. I’m an older guy.
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Admit it? He11, I’m proud of it! Learned enough to know how much I don’t know and I can tell how old some here are by how much they think they know ’cause I used to know everything, too. Wish my body hadn’t aged with my brain, tho.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:39 am
Bob Marley Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 8:21 am
Trouble is, the Raiders situation does not seem like an appealing one for potential OC candidates.
I would think league perception is that DA is a bad start away from getting fired, so young, up-and-coming position coaches looking to make the jump to OC may not wanna risk coming here on what could be a one and done deal and then have to look for another job next offseason, specially with so many other openings available.
And how comfortable would DA be working with an established OC such as Turner, Morninwheg, Sparano or some other guy with HC in his resume? he may feel that guy is a threat to his job and might replace him by mid-season.
We are in a tough spot IMO, our best hope would be Al Saunders or to hit the jackpot with a young, unproven guy who nobody is considering and jumps at the chance of a big, unexpected promotion.
Or someone out of a job who has fallen out of favor, such as Jeremy Bates, Bob Bratkowski or Cam Cameron.
I have an outside the box suggestion by the way: Jim Fassel.
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Great analysis, as usual, Bob.
I hadn’t thought of this angle, but you’re probably right. A top-notch OC with other options is probably not going to want to get in on a potential one and done scenario. Hadn’t thought of that.
My concern with keeping DA for another season was that if we start to draft for a system, and DA goes after this next season because we go 5-11 or something, then we largely wasted another draft class. But this is definitely an issue too.
My guess is they’ll hope to hit on an under the radar type, like DA was as head coach, and try to strike gold. I could see Defillipo or someone of that ilk getting the job.
Love the Fassel call though. It’s a name you never hear anymore, but he had some real good years with the Giants. Very underrated coach. He’s somewhat getting up there in years, but he’d be an interesting candidate. A hell of a lot better than Knapp. He’s been out of the NFL for several years now but has been a coach in the UFL for years so he’s still involved in the game and in coaching. He was doing well there, too, last I checked. I know it’s not the NFL, but he was going up against other ex-NFL coaches like Schottenheimer, Green, etc.
I wanted the Raiders to hire him over Kiffin and Cable when those guys first got the job.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:43 am
1144.Bob Marley Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 8:21 am
Trouble is, the Raiders situation does not seem like an appealing one for potential OC candidates.
I would think league perception is that DA is a bad start away from getting fired, so young, up-and-coming position coaches looking to make the jump to OC may not wanna risk coming here on what could be a one and done deal and then have to look for another job next offseason, specially with so many other openings available.
And how comfortable would DA be working with an established OC such as Turner, Morninwheg, Sparano or some other guy with HC in his resume? he may feel that guy is a threat to his job and might replace him by mid-season.
We are in a tough spot IMO, our best hope would be Al Saunders or to hit the jackpot with a young, unproven guy who nobody is considering and jumps at the chance of a big, unexpected promotion.
Or someone out of a job who has fallen out of favor, such as Jeremy Bates, Bob Bratkowski or Cam Cameron.
I have an outside the box suggestion by the way: Jim Fassel.
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It seems if we have a HC who would be worried about hiring good, experienced coaches for fear they may take his job then we might have the wrong guy to begin with.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:47 am
Sorry, Bob.
But I have to agree with 99’s take on this.
There are only 32 NFL OC jobs available IN THE WORLD. This season, what, 9 possible jobs available?
The Raiders will have an in box FULL of requests of take that job. Outside of the HC vacancies, this is literally one of the hottest job openings in America.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:47 am
Marty Mornhinweg, Norv Turner, Bill Lazor, Marc Trestman…
My 4 choices for OC..
January 8th, 2013 at 8:49 am
Juan Castillo, Tony Sparano, Bob Wylie..
My 3 choices for OL coach..
January 8th, 2013 at 8:49 am
I have pointed out for a while that I seriously doubt we are going to get a known OC.
It was the same reason I stated as to why we got a rookie GM and rookie HC.
This is a longer term proposition to get fixed and there are simply too many other good opportunities that can be more quickly corrected than the Raiders given our cap issues and lack of draft picks.(Chicago/Philly).
I think we will get a smart young OC from somewhere that has not been an OC before in the NFL.
I do believe they need to have some prior NFL experience in some capacity. (Gruden was a “special assistant/WR coach” before he became an OC with the Eagles).
Some of you think Allen is on the hot seat. The reality is we will be lucky to win 7 games next year, even with a solid draft this April.Allen and McK are not going anywhere.
We will not be relevant again till 2014.
Too many holes.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:50 am
J Hill Says:
Sorry, Bob.
But I have to agree with 99’s take on this.
There are only 32 NFL OC jobs available IN THE WORLD. This season, what, 9 possible jobs available?
The Raiders will have an in box FULL of requests of take that job. Outside of the HC vacancies, this is literally one of the hottest job openings in America.
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Is that so?.
Great, then we have nothing to worry about J Hill.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:51 am
I had 670 The Score on just a bit ago and they had one of the announcers for the Seahawks on and the guy said that Tom Cable was the big reason behind the Seattle offense’s success. He said “People say..well Cable failed in Oakland but what coach hasn’t?. Besides he was working for Al Davis at the time and nothing was good enough for Al Davis”. He said Cable should be considered for a HC position again.
Anyway, apparently this guy said some bad things about the Redskins and Shanahan and RG3 and that h’es been getting tons of tweets and texts from angry Redskin fans. He called them “Neanderthals”.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:53 am
Adam Zimmer, Billy Davis..
My 2 choices for LB coach..
January 8th, 2013 at 8:53 am
LOL at 70 year old men not being able to comment on fine arsse women.
Talk to me when you’re 70 and see a hot 20 year old.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:53 am
Accountability. Remember last year’s buzzword surrounding the new coaching hires?
If DA is responsible for hiring 4 failed coaches and assistants, shouldn’t he be stripped of the final call in their replacements? Or does is the mulligan completely free of reprecussions? I always thought Reggie gave him more to bite off than he could chew.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:55 am
guest123 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 8:53 am
Accountability. Remember last year’s buzzword surrounding the new coaching hires?
If DA is responsible for hiring 4 failed coaches and assistants, shouldn’t he be stripped of the final call in their replacements? Or does is the mulligan completely free of reprecussions? I always thought Reggie gave him more to bite off than he could chew.
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We have no way of knowing that Reggie hasnt told him it will be a collaborative effort..
So it makes no sense to opine either way..
January 8th, 2013 at 8:55 am
Unless we ditch Allen, we might not get an OC worth his weight in reputation. Because I dont think any good OC is going to want to work under Dennis Allen. Whether they dont feel like hes worthy of them working under him, or whether Dennis just simply doesnt have the juice in the league to convince a good OC to come join his staff, I just dont see a savior OC coming. We may get lucky, and hire a creative, young playcaller thats not on anyones radar, but how often does that op come along?
Im feeling like if we’re stuck with Allen, then we’re gonna end up with another garbage OC, and thus, another wasted season.
I hope Im wrong.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:57 am
1160.DJ Johnny Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 8:51 am
I had 670 The Score on just a bit ago and they had one of the announcers for the Seahawks on and the guy said that Tom Cable was the big reason behind the Seattle offense’s success. He said “People say..well Cable failed in Oakland but what coach hasn’t?. Besides he was working for Al Davis at the time and nothing was good enough for Al Davis”. He said Cable should be considered for a HC position again.
Anyway, apparently this guy said some bad things about the Redskins and Shanahan and RG3 and that h’es been getting tons of tweets and texts from angry Redskin fans. He called them “Neanderthals”.
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Well Cable was a likable guy, The team liked him, and he motivated them. But his play calling was as terrible as his roster management. With some good Coordinators and a GM, i do think Cable can be a good HC somewhere.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:57 am
I don’t know, Bob.
Maybe I’m just different. Would you run from the Raiders job if you were in any of these OCs positions?
I agree with Gruden. Do you realize how it would boost their resume to bring an international brand like the Raiders back to prominence?
Maybe I have a kool aid Raider approach to my thinking.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:58 am
This is a longer term proposition to get fixed and there are simply too many other good opportunities that can be more quickly corrected than the Raiders given our cap issues and lack of draft picks.(Chicago/Philly).
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Huh?
The Eagles have no QB, and a horrible line to fix.
Chicago has a brooding selfish streaky QB and a spotty line to fix.
We have a QB that makes some bad mistakes when the game is on the lien, but otherwise is a hard-working professional in the top ten in talent. Our line was fine until Knapp and Pollack screwed it up. We have a higher draft pick to work with. Basically all we have to do is go back to the old offensive style offense, plug in a #1 WR and a few linemen and we are good to go.
If it works he will be looked as a savior by fans.
It should be a dream job for an OC.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:58 am
Don’t worry people.
J Hill just told me the Raiders OC position is one of the hottest job openings in America, candidates are lined up ready to make their pitch to DA and Reggie, 27 ppg in 2013!.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:59 am
Just kidding J Hill.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:59 am
Talk to me when you’re 70 and see a hot 20 year old.
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I’m a long ways from 70, and out of respect to my wife, I’d not be talking about a hot 20 yo girl. Musberger married?… But that’s just me. Now as for thinking those thoughts that’s another story, but broadcasting it on TV. Now that’s embarassing. Even talking aloud in the bar those thoughts is cringeworthy. You’re 73 yo. Nobody wants to know what turns on senior citizens.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:00 am
1158,
Charlie, every team has cap issues and the fact we are w/o a 2nd rounder and a 5th should not be a devastating blow for a GOOD GM to make progress with.
I’m sick of hearing all these reasons and excuses for why we can’t do anything.
NO GM inherits a great situation, which is why the positions are open in the 1st place.
There were 7 GM’s hired before start of the season last yr. who had never had a GM gig before.
There was only ONE GM who finished with a worse record than what they inherited.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:01 am
Guys
If coaching in the NFL was so great why does Kelly stay at Oregon?
These guys are human and they know when a situation is bad or far worse than what they presently have.
DA got a four year deal because he could have simply waited in Denver, possibly win another super bowl with Peyton and then get an HC job in Chicago.
The Oakland “opportunity” is a good one to far fewer that many of you think.
It is even worse if we invest our top two picks in our Dline this April and basically tell somebody,
“No personnel upgrades but we expect a dramatic improvement in performance”. Yea OK. Don’t call me I’ll call you. Click.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:01 am
Jesse Williams [NT]
#1 Target after a trade down.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:02 am
guest123 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 7:50 am
Ok, I’ll admit. I’m an older guy. But anyone else embarrased for Brent Musbergur last night when the kept panning to the AL QB’s girlfriend. Brent the old hornball was trying everything he could to keep it in his pants. I think he made even Herbstreet blush. We get it Brent. She’s cute. Your 80. Put the viagra down. It gave me the weeby jeevies watching him verbally undress her.
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LMAO
Still not as bad as Joe Namath
OHHH I wooove you!! Hilarious.
We are all apparenetly destined to be OLD pervs.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:02 am
Just don’t get all the hate for YOUR HC.
Krapp was fired!
DA, Tarver, and McKenzie are defensive guys and the defense was playing well the last quarter of the season.
They were ROOKIES. Yes they made some mistakes.
Can we move forward?????
January 8th, 2013 at 9:04 am
J Hill Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 8:57 am
I don’t know, Bob.
Maybe I’m just different. Would you run from the Raiders job if you were in any of these OCs positions?
I agree with Gruden. Do you realize how it would boost their resume to bring an international brand like the Raiders back to prominence?
Maybe I have a kool aid Raider approach to my thinking.
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Nope.
This SHOULD be a dream job. This offense was already near the top not long ago. Just plug in a o-line coach that players dont HATE, implement the old exciting smash mouth/vertical offense, be more creative in play calling, add in a few key players… he will have us Raider fans eating out of his hands.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:04 am
If coaching in the NFL was so great why does Kelly stay at Oregon?
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Because Oregon is a HELLUVA job.
Do you realize how much cash Phil Knight runs through Chip Kelly?
CERTAIN guys have options.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:05 am
Palmers best years are behind him! Face it Two Years and no sign of a LIVE ARM! His proccessing of information has slowed too much at this point! When will he get up to NFL Speed of the game? Next year then year after next? What are we waiting for? He didn’t score in Preseason and it continued all season!94 what are you smoking I want some?
January 8th, 2013 at 9:06 am
1176.J Hill Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 9:02 am
Just don’t get all the hate for YOUR HC.
Krapp was fired!
DA, Tarver, and McKenzie are defensive guys and the defense was playing well the last quarter of the season.
They were ROOKIES. Yes they made some mistakes.
Can we move forward?????
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Can’t blame all 12 losses just on Knapp. I’d say about half of those. But it can’t be denied that this team only came out ready to play in about 2 games this year, and flat for the rest. That’s on poor preperation by the HC. And gave up record setting points in a 4 week stretch. That’s on the DC.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:07 am
“No personnel upgrades but we expect a dramatic improvement in performance”. Yea OK. Don’t call me I’ll call you. Click.
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LOL
Really???
Who is on the other end of that call?
Norv Turner?
You thnk the Jets clown show is much more appealing?
Cmon, Charlie!
January 8th, 2013 at 9:07 am
Te only way we get a Top Notch OC if he is Labled Asst. HC!Allen is too green for anyhthing else unless it’s Norvall Turner!
January 8th, 2013 at 9:08 am
DA, Tarver, and McKenzie are defensive guys and the defense was playing well the last quarter of the season.
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What was the winning % of the teams they played good defense against in those last few games? Did they have anything to play for?
Not hating DA, but please tell me one thing about DA that sells you on him being the long-term answer. Don’t tell me about the need for continuity. A boat anchor provides continuity. What does DA as HC bring the table that potential replacements don’t? Just one thing is all I’m asking. I’ll try to start a list of his strengths. Lets fill out DA’s resume. See if we like it.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:09 am
DJ
No team had our cap issues at the beginning of 2012.
No team had a lack of picks that we have had without a full complement till 2014.
No team had to gut their scouting department in 2012 and install computers.
This is a complete organizational makeover that has never happened to this extent in the NFL.
You can not compare our situation to any other franchise in 2012.
“It’s going to be structured around the personnel part and getting good players,” Madden said. “It’s all about players. We can talk about this thing and that thing and having good cheerleaders and all that. That’s all nice but you have to have players. If you have players, you’re probably going to win. If you don’t have players, you’re not going to win. … They’re going to go out and get the best players, and if they don’t have them, then they’re going to keep trying until they get them.”
We have a huge lack of talent relative to other NFL teams. The last ten years with all the different coaches should tell you that.
We mortgaged our future for two 8-8 seasons. Pathetic.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:09 am
LMAO
Still not as bad as Joe Namath
OHHH I wooove you!! Hilarious.
We are all apparenetly destined to be OLD pervs
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Ah yes, something to look forward to!
January 8th, 2013 at 9:09 am
I don’t want Norv Turner. He didn’t get much out of SD’s offense.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:09 am
You’re 73 yo. Nobody wants to know what turns on senior citizens.
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LOL
Another thing that happens at 70+ ….
Things just fly out of your mouth.
I know you’ve been around th elderly and they just say whatever is on their mind.
Probably need to get on the network for letting Musberger still hold the mike.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:13 am
But Norvall is a better OC than HC! Too much was left up to A.J. Smith when it came to personnel! I think he has a chip on his shoulder that D.A. could learn from!As it stands D.A. on his own has 1 year to prove his worth and should shoot for the best fit! Or See Ya!
January 8th, 2013 at 9:14 am
Nobody hates DA but…
His 1st season at the helm was a disater, 99% of posters expected the team to get better, not worst.
And nobody expected 4 wins.
We are dissapointed and think we sould have done better, that’s it.
I’m giving him a mulligan on last year, but I expect a much more competitive team in 2013, I’m certain Mark Davis and Reggie McKenzie can agree.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:14 am
we play NFC East That could be a factor in the hire, also Reid is from the NFC East!
January 8th, 2013 at 9:14 am
Not hating DA, but please tell me one thing about DA that sells you on him being the long-term answer.
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“sells me”????
I don’t know that I am sold, so to speak.
But I also realize this team’s roster was pretty bad, and so was the OC. The WRs were terrible, The Oline was puhhthetic, and 20 was just trash.
I know, a bunch of excuses. But it’s what I saw, man.
There were EPIC problems with this team before McKenzie and DA got here. We should have been 0-6 to finish last season. We picked up right where we left off from last year to begin this season, imo.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:14 am
moore = chris long
werner = tamba hali
star = b.j. raji
te’o = james laurinaitis
January 8th, 2013 at 9:16 am
I agree we had nothing to start with and Cut and Pasted our way through the season!
January 8th, 2013 at 9:16 am
1188.raiderlization Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 9:13 am
But Norvall is a better OC than HC! Too much was left up to A.J. Smith when it came to personnel! I think he has a chip on his shoulder that D.A. could learn from!As it stands D.A. on his own has 1 year to prove his worth and should shoot for the best fit! Or See Ya!
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What makes you think he’s STILL a good OC? What if the game is passin him by as well? He didn’t do well with SD’s offense. They have a mistake prone QB, bad Oline, No WR’s and an injury Prone RB just like US, and you think Norv can magically make this work if you strip the HC title off his hat?
January 8th, 2013 at 9:16 am
inonewordraider Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 9:14 am
moore = chris long
werner = tamba hali
star = b.j. raji
te’o = james laurinaitis
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I heavily disagree with all but the Te’o comparison.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:17 am
Jhill
My earlier post said that we may get somebody like a Gruden prior to his first OC opportunity with the Eagles.
Not the end of the world. Perhaps a very good thing.
I am simply trying to point out that the Raiders have far more serious problems than being one player away from the playoffs.
We have lots of holes especially on both lines that will not get fixed next year.
An experienced OC stays on the sidelines and waits. They do not need the money.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:17 am
with a good OC DA can focus his efforts on D and have them playing well all season, oc for the raiders can be an attractive job also if the team fails but the O does well the Oc might be inline for a hc position
January 8th, 2013 at 9:19 am
Remember Norv’s offense couldn’t put up more than 6 points against the Browns this year.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:19 am
I heavily disagree with all but the Te’o comparison.
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what would bebetter comparisons then in your opinion?
January 8th, 2013 at 9:19 am
jesusraiderjim Says:
We are all apparenetly destined to be OLD pervs.
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Not in my family. We’re old Purvs.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:20 am
LOL
Just saw the gilfriend of the Alabama QB.
She’s aigghhht, lol.
Musberger needs to check his glasses
January 8th, 2013 at 9:21 am
The_Judge37 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 9:09 am
I don’t want Norv Turner. He didn’t get much out of SD’s offense.
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I think if Norv had set aside his HC hat and all the duties and responsibilities that come with that position and just concentrated on running the SD offense they would have been fine…..plus, AJ Smith let a lot of talent leave that team because of their budget, or his ego, not sure which is more to blame to let go of guys like Sproles, Turner, V-Jax etc.
I would be willing to bring Norv here as OC…..he knows his chances of being a HC are done.
Someone like Whisenhunt would still have half his attention on finding his next HC gig. Norv would not be burdened by those thoughts. Then again….Whisenhunt would be in a great position to take over the Raiders as HC when we start 1-4 next year and Reggie finally admits that DA was a mistake….so maybe hiring an OC with the wualifications to be our next HC might be the way to go?
Schyyyt, tough call.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:22 am
Inonewordraider Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 9:14 am
moore = chris long
werner = tamba hali
star = b.j. raji
te’o = james laurinaitis
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You sir just insulted a buckeye, and I don’t tolerate that kind of BS especially here.
Te’o = Rey Maualuga
January 8th, 2013 at 9:24 am
J Hill Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 9:02 am
Just don’t get all the hate for YOUR HC.
Krapp was fired!
DA, Tarver, and McKenzie are defensive guys and the defense was playing well the last quarter of the season.
They were ROOKIES. Yes they made some mistakes.
Can we move forward?????
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Same way you dont understand the hate, I dont at all understand the support for Dennis Allen. He got a full season, I watched every game, every snap, and all four preseason games. Ive given numerous reasons throughout the season on this very blog why I dont think Dennis Allen is a very good coach at all. Yet, the rebuttals for why he should stay have been little more than excuses, and dont speak for anything he has done to improve the team. Bottom line is, since he became head coach of the Oakland Raiders, he has done WAY more to ruin this team than he has to improve it any way. And thats why I stick with my position.
Ive accepted the fact that it looks like Reggie is going to stick with this bum, but that doesnt mean I have to forget that he failed miserably last season, and act like hes all of the sudden going to be a different coach this season. Until Dennis proves himself, his name is sh!t in my books as a Head coach. It just is what it is.
Hey, if it were up to me, Dennis Allen would be an AWESOME coach, and the Raiders would be in the playoffs right now.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:24 am
I heavily disagree with all but the Te’o comparison.
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LOL…. Last night was disappointing (For Te’o) supporters that is. I kinda made a fart face around the 3rd quarter goin “I think I’ll pass on Te’o”. He’d essentially be playing an “Alabama” every week in the NFL…. sort of.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:24 am
I dont agree that an OC wouldnt come here because DA may be out in a year. That makes no sense. If a good OC came here, got some offensive production but we still struggled to win and DA is fired, that OC now has an inside track to a promotion to HC.
Besides, Reggie and Mark aren’t going to can DA so fast anyways. They gave him a 4 year contract because they understand what most fans are unwilling to. This place is a mess and needs time to be corrected.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:25 am
SD also let Wes Welker, Tolbert and Drew Brees go too….
AJ Smith makes Al Davis look like a good GM.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:26 am
I would guess Manti Te’o will have the type of career that Rey Maualuaga and A.J. Hawk have had after being top 10 picks.
Much heralded MLB’s from traditional programs who become solid NFL starters but not difference-makers.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:27 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
OK I’ve made up my mind….
We need to find a trade partner for our early 1st round pick, and stack on picks. I don’t really see anyone worthy of a top 5 pick.
Priorities……
1. Pass rusher
2. NT/DT
3. RT
4. CB
5. LB
January 8th, 2013 at 9:28 am
Rey Maualuga was a 2nd round pick.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:28 am
Good morning mr. Prez.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:29 am
bcz24 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 9:24 am
I dont agree that an OC wouldnt come here because DA may be out in a year. That makes no sense. If a good OC came here, got some offensive production but we still struggled to win and DA is fired, that OC now has an inside track to a promotion to HC.
Besides, Reggie and Mark aren’t going to can DA so fast anyways. They gave him a 4 year contract because they understand what most fans are unwilling to. This place is a mess and needs time to be corrected.
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If we don’t win 7 games and look competitive in the majority of losses next year, DA will certainly be gone. Reggie has enough self-preservation instinct to know when to say when. If he is too stupid to know that, then he deserves to be fired.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:31 am
As a ND fan I have always said we would have to trade down if we were going to pick Teo….he is solid, but at #3 you need a stud…..so draft Star or Joeckel….if Jax wants Teo at #2, that would be AWESOME! We would certainly get either Star or Joeckel.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:32 am
J Hill Says:
Another thing that happens at 70+ ….
Things just fly out of your mouth.
I know you’ve been around th elderly and they just say whatever is on their mind.
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Unlike young celebs, athletes, and musicians. Models of decorum all.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:33 am
O.
My bad, so was Keith Rivers the USC LB who was a top 10 pick?.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:33 am
raiderlization Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 9:16 am
I agree we had nothing to start with and Cut and Pasted our way through the season!
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Bingo.
But I feel like we had worse than nothing considering all the spoiled scholarships players still on the roster.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:33 am
On draft day, it gets no better than this:
Trade down with Dolphins, acquire: 12th pick, 2013 2nd, 2013 7th, 2014 2nd.
1- Jesse Williams [NT, Bama]
2- Alex Okafor [DE/OLB, Texas]
3- Kyle Long [RT, Oregon]
4- Andrew Jackson [ILB, W.Kentucky]
6- Joseph Fauria [TE, UCLA]
7- DJ Swearinger [FS/SS, S.Carolina]
7- Ray Ray Armstrong [S, Miami]
January 8th, 2013 at 9:33 am
Yes he was.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:33 am
Wassup brutha frum anutha mutha!!!!!!
Where’s our playuh patna ODB???
January 8th, 2013 at 9:34 am
Bob Marley Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 9:33 am
O.
My bad, so was Keith Rivers the USC LB who was a top 10 pick?.
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I think so. What happened to Rivers? He was injured with Cincinnati, he was traded, and I never heard anything about this kid in a long time.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:35 am
@DennisAllensVisor
Do we have an extra 7th round pick? From the Louis Murphy trade?
January 8th, 2013 at 9:37 am
Mr. Prez,
ODB is fantasizing about toothless women and smoking Cali greens.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:37 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 9:35 am
@DennisAllensVisor
Do we have an extra 7th round pick? From the Louis Murphy trade?
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You’re right.. Although its not official I dont think..
So we would have 3 7th’s with my scenario..
Im on it..
January 8th, 2013 at 9:39 am
I posted this yesterday but look at the Bears situation.
They “mortgaged their future” for Jay Cutler by giving up TWO # 1’s AND a # 3 for him so they had no #1 pick in 2006 and 2007, and if you look at their history of #1 picks since 2003 you could make an argument that it was WORSE than ours. A good argument.
They have an aging defense, a porous o-line and a QB who is worse than Palmer..stat wise and otherwise…career numbers and last yr’s numbers.
They have PLENTY of excuses. It’s another topic but when u look at what they gave up for Cutler (which was way more..especially since we’re putting so much value on #1 picks) and then compare him to Palmer?
Anyway, with all of that working against them, they STILL manage 8-8 the previous yr. and 10-6 this past season.
Somehow, they found a way to get over the horrible draft picks and mortgaging their future.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:42 am
Somehow, they found a way to get over the horrible draft picks and mortgaging their future.
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Because their defense can keep them in any game.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:44 am
I want Bama’s B. Jones spreading dem’ for CP3 on Sundays!!!!!!!!!!!!
Didn’t even know dude played w/ torn ligaments in his foot.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:45 am
Somehow, they found a way to get over the horrible draft picks and mortgaging their future.
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Oh and their special teams are outstanding.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:45 am
1201.J Hill Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 9:20 am
LOL
Just saw the gilfriend of the Alabama QB.
She’s aigghhht, lol.
Musberger needs to check his glasses
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They showed a bikini pic of her and she’s got these rock hard abs and no chest to speak of. You can see her ribs instead of cleavage and she’s got these super toned skinny arms.
You guys can have that all u want. I’ll take a chick with some curves (not fat) anyday of the week over that bony azz action.
Just my opinion.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:46 am
Raider O Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 9:37 am
Mr. Prez,
ODB is fantasizing about toothless women and smoking Cali greens.
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Man!!!
That dude is livin’ the life!!
I’m a little envious.
lol
January 8th, 2013 at 9:47 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 5:52 am
Hey according to Dr. Rob’s QB rating rankings, Jay Cutler is the 28th best QB in NFL history, lol.
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not my rankings. the nfl’s.
he’s the #20 qb this year. #13 last year. #16 in 2010. #21 in 2009.
not close to elite. this is why opinions don’t count comapred to stats and results. he did NOT go to the playoffs, his team did.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:49 am
So you guys give every excuse available to justify DA’s 4-12 record, but please tell us how Tom Cable and Hue Jackson, working under more adverse conditions, managed to win 8 games the previous 2 years?.
The Coaching downgrade was the biggest reason this team went backwards in 2012.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:49 am
1225.bcz24 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 9:42 am
Somehow, they found a way to get over the horrible draft picks and mortgaging their future.
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Because their defense can keep them in any game.
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That’s it. My point is despite all those draft limitations they are able to field such a good defense anyway.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:50 am
On draft day, it gets no better than this:
Trade down with Dolphins, acquire: 12th pick, 2013 2nd, 2013 7th, 2014 2nd.
1- Jesse Williams [NT, Bama]
2- Alex Okafor [DE/OLB, Texas]
3- Kyle Long [RT, Oregon]
4- Andrew Jackson [ILB, W.Kentucky]
6- Joseph Fauria [TE, UCLA]
7- Ray Ray Armstrong [S, Miami]
7- Rob Lohr [DT, Vandy]
7- Greg Reid [CB/KR, Valdosta ST]
January 8th, 2013 at 9:52 am
Sorry off topic but…….
I wish Carmelo would of beat the schit outta KG. I can’t stand that fk’n dude. He talks hella schit and thinks he’s hella hard.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:53 am
I once heard Jay Kornegay, who runs the Hilton Sports Book, what the line would be if the best collegiate team played the worst NFL team.
I think he said it would be NFL -40, at least.
The Raiders would have covered last night.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:53 am
2012:
palmer #16
cutler #20
2011:
palmer #19
cutler #13
2010:
palmer #19
cutler #16
2009:
palmer #16
cutler #21
these are facts, not opinions based on media or man-crushes.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:54 am
Brandon Williams, DT/NT Missouri Southern is a guy to watch also.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:54 am
Bob Marley Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 9:49 am
So you guys give every excuse available to justify DA’s 4-12 record, but please tell us how Tom Cable and Hue Jackson, working under more adverse conditions, managed to win 8 games the previous 2 years?.
The Coaching downgrade was the biggest reason this team went backwards in 2012.
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who are these imaginary “DA supporters”?
January 8th, 2013 at 9:55 am
We are sorely missing a beast pass rusher!!!
I don’t give a damn if its through the draft or FA. Something needs to be done.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:56 am
Have we brought in Wisenhunt for an interview, yet??
January 8th, 2013 at 9:57 am
We are also missing a beast DB
January 8th, 2013 at 9:57 am
As far as the OC search, we have a perfect case study to examine.
After the 2009 season, we fired our OC named Greg Knapp (ever heard of him??) and kept the HC, Tommy Cable.
Al hired Hue Jackson as OC, on Jan 27th.
January 27th!!!!!!
That is the timeline and this is the process.
As far as the Senior Bowl, even if we have a new OC in place, he should go but let Saunders run it. Remember, in the Senior Bowl it is all techniques and fundamentals, you can’t blitz, have to line up in a 4-3 and I formation, no 3 WR sets or anythng like that.
It is a perfect gig for a 67 year old consultant.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:58 am
hwnrdr Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 9:57 am
We are also missing a beast DB
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Pash rush >
January 8th, 2013 at 9:58 am
1236.dr_robert Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 9:53 am
2012:
palmer #16
cutler #20
2011:
palmer #19
cutler #13
2010:
palmer #19
cutler #16
2009:
palmer #16
cutler #21
these are facts, not opinions based on media or man-crushes.
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Palmer’s career rating is 86.2
Cutler’s career rating is 84.0
Palmer 189 td’s 130 int’s
Cutler 136 td’s 100 int’s
January 8th, 2013 at 9:59 am
DMAC Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 9:56 am
Have we brought in Wisenhunt for an interview, yet??
Would the players we have now…well, what the heck…will he be smart enough to utilize our roster’s strengths?
January 8th, 2013 at 9:59 am
hwnrdr Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 9:57 am
We are also missing a beast DB
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1st thing 1st
pass rusher
January 8th, 2013 at 9:59 am
Norv is offering an olive-branch to Reggie whatevers next that offence is getting old man style and pass-rushers love it, if u can choke the run game ,the chargers are not just losing because of lack of talent
January 8th, 2013 at 10:00 am
1227.bcz24 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 9:45 am
Somehow, they found a way to get over the horrible draft picks and mortgaging their future.
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Oh and their special teams are outstanding.
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Interesting right? I heard many of their starters actually play special teams? It was an announcer during a game…
January 8th, 2013 at 10:00 am
hwnrdr Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 9:59 am
DMAC Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 9:56 am
Have we brought in Wisenhunt for an interview, yet??
Would the players we have now…well, what the heck…will he be smart enough to utilize our roster’s strengths?
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Rather have Norv, but you gotta believe Wisenhunt would be an instant upgrade over Knappy.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:00 am
Cutler also has a true # 1 WR in Brandon Marshall.
Does Palmer even have a good # 2?
Reggie needs to get some good receivers regardless who our QB is.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:02 am
That is true DMAC! And guys, I know…pass rush is a must!
January 8th, 2013 at 10:02 am
DJ Johnny Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:00 am
Cutler also has a true # 1 WR in Brandon Marshall.
Does Palmer even have a good # 2?
Reggie needs to get some good receivers regardless who our QB is.
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Bring on Bowe to stick it to his old team.
Instant #1 WR for CP3
I’m done w/ trying to develop young receivers
January 8th, 2013 at 10:03 am
Bowe will come with a price, one would have to believe. Is he the only worthy FA receiver out there?
January 8th, 2013 at 10:03 am
I think there is a 0.77% chance of us getting Bowe.
And a 28.6% of us getting Greg Jennings.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:04 am
DJ Johnny Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 9:58 am
1236.dr_robert Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 9:53 am
2012:
palmer #16
cutler #20
2011:
palmer #19
cutler #13
2010:
palmer #19
cutler #16
2009:
palmer #16
cutler #21
these are facts, not opinions based on media or man-crushes.
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Palmer’s career rating is 86.2
Cutler’s career rating is 84.0
Palmer 189 td’s 130 int’s
Cutler 136 td’s 100 int’s
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yes, and palmer sucks but cutler is elite.
no accounting for man-crushes and brainlessness.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:04 am
hwnrdr Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:02 am
That is true DMAC! And guys, I know…pass rush is a must!
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Interesting to see if Reggie brings back Spencer. I thought he was our best corner, before going down. We still need a corner like you said though.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:04 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:03 am
I think there is a 0.77% chance of us getting Bowe.
And a 28.6% of us getting Greg Jennings.
Probably right
January 8th, 2013 at 10:05 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:03 am
I think there is a 0.77% chance of us getting Bowe.
And a 28.6% of us getting Greg Jennings.
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Is Jennings injury prone?
I know he missed quite a few games this season.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:06 am
If Spencer signs on this year for cheap, then he will be serviceable. We need someone better out there…someone mentioned Jennings…is he a corner?
January 8th, 2013 at 10:06 am
DMAC Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:05 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:03 am
I think there is a 0.77% chance of us getting Bowe.
And a 28.6% of us getting Greg Jennings.
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Is Jennings injury prone?
I know he missed quite a few games this season.
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No, just had a nagging hammy this year..
Dolphins & Seahawks will nab him up..
January 8th, 2013 at 10:06 am
Marley
We had back to back 8-8 seasons.
This is what it cost us.
As of March 25, 2012, The Oakland Raiders held TWO SELECTIONS in the 2012 NFL Draft (a 5th and 6th round pick), which was just about a month away. The NFL awarded the Raiders three COMPENSATORY PICKS March 26. (A 3rd round 4th round and 5th round pick).
“In 2010, Al Davis went all out for his football team in an uncapped year and spent the most money in the league at over $150 million in player salaries. That is easily the most money ever spent on a team in the history of the NFL. One thing we know for sure is that Al Davis made his own bed here and whether that is good or bad, he must lie in it. At the other end of the spectrum are the Bengals, who have only $83.5 million in commitments for 2012. The Buccaneers, Titans, Redskins, and Broncos also are under $100 million.”
“Reports are now coming out that the Raiders cap overshot is actually more like $22 million-twice the original figure. Even at the original $11 million estimation, the Raiders had a lot of work to do. With this new figure, they go from pruning and trimming to SLASH AND BURN.”
The foundation was a house of cards. Rotten to the core.
And you think it was just bad coaching.
I wish it was that simple.
We are already over the cap in 2013.
More slash and burn to come. Way too much money going to marginal performers like Bey, Kelly ETC.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:07 am
And no, not “I wish Greg Jennings was in my lap”…lol
That Jennings kid in college
January 8th, 2013 at 10:07 am
Dakota Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 9:21 am
The_Judge37 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 9:09 am
I don’t want Norv Turner. He didn’t get much out of SD’s offense.
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I think if Norv had set aside his HC hat and all the duties and responsibilities that come with that position and just concentrated on running the SD offense they would have been fine…..plus, AJ Smith let a lot of talent leave that team because of their budget, or his ego, not sure which is more to blame to let go of guys like Sproles, Turner, V-Jax etc
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Well we have just about as much talent as SD did on Offense this year. So i don’t see how Norv would fair any better. An offensive minded head coach should still have a good offense, added duties aside. SD was not a good offense.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:07 am
a #1 wr is definitely needed. the wr’s we have are still “developing”, and only streater looks like he could ever get there. another draft choice means more waiting. FA is THE solution. i am for dumping dhb (unless he restructures for #3 wr pay), and trading moore, who at best will be a #2 deep threat kinda guy. streater shows a lot of potential and i’d be fine with him at #2 next season with criner at #3, ford as #4/KR, and guys like session, duke, and williams battling for the #5.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:07 am
With a consistent pass rush, Spencer/Adams/Ross/Hanson/Chekwa are more than adequate.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:07 am
1225.bcz24 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 9:42 am
Somehow, they found a way to get over the horrible draft picks and mortgaging their future.
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Because their defense can keep them in any game.
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Exactly. When we get Urlacher, Peppers and Briggs in here let me know. Right now I’m not seeing comparative talent on defense. I also don’t see a Brandon Marshall on our team.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:07 am
Maybe it is Saunders. Havent heard of any other names or interviews.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:09 am
KoolKell Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:07 am
Maybe it is Saunders. Havent heard of any other names or interviews.
There was a report about possibly Defilippo
January 8th, 2013 at 10:09 am
hwnrdr Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:09 am
KoolKell Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:07 am
Maybe it is Saunders. Havent heard of any other names or interviews.
There was a report about possibly Defilippo
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LOL.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:10 am
DMAC Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:04 am
hwnrdr Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:02 am
That is true DMAC! And guys, I know…pass rush is a must!
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Interesting to see if Reggie brings back Spencer. I thought he was our best corner, before going down. We still need a corner like you said though.
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adams is one. i think huff gets cut. ross could be in line but they may draft a cb like milliner, or sign a FA. i don’t think spencer is coming back.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:11 am
LOL…DAV, seriously. His name was brought up here because of his lone stint with SJ State last year
January 8th, 2013 at 10:11 am
Saunders > Flip
January 8th, 2013 at 10:12 am
it’s actually good news that we have had no action on OC. it means my theory of allen wanting a coach in the playoffs is true.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:12 am
**The Coaching downgrade was the biggest reason this team went backwards in 2012.**
OK we were a weak 8-8 last year did not draft until nearly the 4th round and lost Cam Wimbley, Boss, Bush and others in the off season. In compensation we signed a bunch of people to 1 year contracts for vet minimum who were mostly cast offs from other teams. Our two DB’s went down right at the start of the season and we starting hiring off the street. Then we had a severe regression of McClain and some offensive linemen. Our WR’s were often injured and had some of the worse drop percentages of any group in the NFL. While I see the issue with Knapp and glad he was fired, I am missing how even VL coaching could have won with this group espeically around the early to middle part of the season and especially with the defensive personal we had. I thought what the Defense did over the last 5 weeks was really good even though it did not end up in wins.
At the begining of the season I said this team can be 10-6 or 6-10 but can not tolerate very many injuries because of lack of depth. I mean our RT at one point was someone that was dropped from the Washington Redskins practice squad! Many other examples of guys playing for us as starters that could not even make rosters of other teams…
Indy was smart as it jettisoned the cap issues and started over and caught some breaks and was in the playoffs. We have structural cap problems and lack of draft picks and it is still an issue but not as bad as last year. We litterally mortgaged our future for an 8-8 season last year with give aways for Curry and Palmer and keeping Seymours bad contract as well as bad contracts for Wimbley Routt and others…
Coaching right now with the exception of OC is the least of our problems and Palmer at QB is not the problem either (except for what we gave up in cap space and draft picks to get him). Everyone is failing to see what the real problems are here. It does not help with JM and SC keep saying the cap is irrelevant – it is a factor and them saying this is probably a symptom of spending too much time with AD.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:12 am
Yes but Saunders is also older than Flip…tryna see what Reggie and Co are thinking of, because why didn’t they just keep Saunders as OC last year?
January 8th, 2013 at 10:13 am
Ask Madden > Flip
January 8th, 2013 at 10:14 am
There was a report about possibly Defilippo
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I think that a was a ‘Dakota special’ report, not a real one.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:15 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:13 am
Ask Madden > Flip
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My 3yr old boy picking plays on Madden > Flip
January 8th, 2013 at 10:15 am
bcz24 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:14 am
There was a report about possibly Defilippo
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I think that a was a ‘Dakota special’ report, not a real one.
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If thats the case
Toss this BS out the window
January 8th, 2013 at 10:16 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:13 am
Ask Madden > Flip
DMAC Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:15 am
My 3yr old boy picking plays on Madden > Flip
LMAO!!!
January 8th, 2013 at 10:16 am
I would love to have Jones (Bama) playing Center for us. He’s a beast.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:17 am
DMAC Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:15 am
bcz24 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:14 am
There was a report about possibly Defilippo
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I think that a was a ‘Dakota special’ report, not a real one.
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If thats the case
Toss this BS out the window
Actually, it wasn’t a Dakota report…lol
January 8th, 2013 at 10:17 am
Hwnrdr Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:12 am
Yes but Saunders is also older than Flip…tryna see what Reggie and Co are thinking of, because why didn’t they just keep Saunders as OC last year?
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I guess DA preferred the ZBS?
January 8th, 2013 at 10:17 am
DMAC Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:16 am
I would love to have Jones (Bama) playing Center for us. He’s a beast.
We do need a true Center…allowing Wiz to move back to LG with Veldheer at LT
January 8th, 2013 at 10:18 am
Huff aint getting cut.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:18 am
DeFilippo needs to be fired. That dude has never been a good QB coach.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:19 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:18 am
Huff aint getting cut.
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oh yes he is.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:19 am
I read somewhere the other day that there are teams in the league a little upset with the teams that have yet to replace their head coaches. The thinking is that these teams have so many candidates that they’re sorting through and it’s taking so long that it’s keeping other teams from interviewing and hiring position coaches and coordinators because nobody knows who’s going to be available, and when.
Add to that the fact that we’re only one round into the playoffs and it’s not so surprising that we don’t yet have replacements for the guys DA fired.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:19 am
for all u cooper carlisle-worshipers, he has to go.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:19 am
Charlie.
Again, Cable and Hue, under more adverse conditions, won 8 games the past 2 seasons, DA won 4 while facing the easiest schedule among the worst 10 teams in the League.
Everybody expected this team to get better in 2012 not worst, and definitely not 4 win, record-setting bad.
But Coaching had nothing to with it.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:19 am
Thank You Autumn
One of the few that seem to understand the seriousness of the problem and why this was a 3-5 year fix when Regggie got here.
See my post on 1261.
People try to compare us to other “turnarounds” yet NO ONE HAS EVER HAD THE PROBLEMS THIS REGIME INERITED IN THE HISTORY OF THE NFL. $150 million player payroll.
Add to this the complete gutting of the scouting department after this year’s draft and you have an entire organizational makeover.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:20 am
The_Judge37 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:18 am
DeFilippo needs to be fired. That dude has never been a good QB coach.
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I don’t know, looks like he’s done a pretty good job with Pryor.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:20 am
for all u mike brisiel-apologists, he needs to go.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:20 am
for all u alex parsons-lovers, he must be gone.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:21 am
so, those posts were just about as ridiculous as saying there are DA lovers here. i haven’t heard one poster say they thought he was great. just that he needed another year to see.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:22 am
dr_robert Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:19 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:18 am
Huff aint getting cut.
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oh yes he is.
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Bet.
Huff will be on the opening day roster 2013.
He stays you never post in here again, he gets cut and I never post again… deal?
January 8th, 2013 at 10:23 am
dr_robert Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:20 am
for all u alex parsons-lovers, he must be gone.
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don’t forget D!ck Seymour, Kelly, Barnes, Huff
January 8th, 2013 at 10:23 am
Marley
I guessed 6 wins this year.
I guess 7 next year.
We will not challenge for the playoffs till 2014 ASSUMING WE DRAFT WELL.
The thing many seem to ignore is the serious beatings we take at the hands of good teams.
What did the Packers, Dolphins and Chargers do to us down the stretch LAST YEAR?
I guess that was Bresnahan’s fault.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:23 am
Dr_robert Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:20 am
for all u alex parsons-lovers, he must be gone.
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All you T’eo lovers need to turn in your Semi GM credentials and Stfu.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:24 am
1292.KoolKell Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:20 am
The_Judge37 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:18 am
DeFilippo needs to be fired. That dude has never been a good QB coach.
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I don’t know, looks like he’s done a pretty good job with Pryor.
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Not really, his throws still look horrible.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:25 am
Same goes for the Reggie McKenzie suckas
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KoolKell Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:23 am
All you T’eo lovers need to turn in your Semi GM credentials and Stfu.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:26 am
Amazing how 5 or 6 months ago the majority in here thought we had some pretty talented players on offense….young guys like Moore, Ford and even DHB was coming around, and we had hope for Ausberry and McFadden and Palmer were going to be a good matchup.
And then Knapp and his pathetic version of the ZBS show up and ruin everything and suddenly not only do all of us want a new OC, but in the same breath you people attack the same players that only a few months ago you were more than happy to have on the roster.
Don’t discount our guys on offense because they were destroyed by Knapp. He lost that side of the ball the minute he talk Carson Palmer he was going to be rolling out, lol, that moment the players knew they were in deep trouble, and they were dishartened most of the season.
I am willing to give those guys another shot with a legit OC before I throw them under the bus along with Knapp.
Sure, we need an insurance RB for McFadden and a #1 WR if one can be found, but that doesn’t mean we need to trash the guys we already have.
We still have guys that can get the job done so long as they believe in their coaches and have a scheme that fits their talents.
Knapp set this franchise back a couple of years….not as much as Russell did, but in the ball park.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:26 am
Reg McKenzie has been taking a nap since the season ended ?
#dkhole
January 8th, 2013 at 10:27 am
Agree to disagree Charlie and 1960, we could go all day but I respect your points of view.
Let’s just focus on 2013.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:27 am
A few scribes giggled when decades ago Jack Nicklaus answered why it was he decided to forego so many tournaments and concentrate on the majors. Jack, a family man, pointed out that now that he had so many kids, he found himself wanting to be home with them and to be a dad, but he also made a big point of telling them that “A guy only has so many swings in him.” He was referring to the natural process of aging and the body breaking down.
Years later, those who giggled because they didn’t think golf was at all physically demanding, understood Jack was right. Tiger has learned that as well.
Shanahan knows that. RG3, bright though he is, is still very young, and the young almost to a man think they are invincible. You could see in RG3’s post-game interview that he believes that with the off-season and medical procedures, he will heal and be himself again. He has the optimism and the invincibility of youth. That is natural. That is why it was Shanahan’s responsibility to 1) play the qb that gave his team the best chance to win after it was obvious RG3 was hurting and they had the lead and 2) take the young man out of there to protect his career.
I’ve never really liked the nickname Shanahan had been given by Raider fans because I realize that in the war between Al and him, Al was probably to blame, as he almost always was. But “Shanarat” seems particularly appropriate now.
I think he was afraid of pulling RG# because, had they lost, the media would have killed him. The media love to make icons out of athletes. The ratings for this game were bound to be high because of the NY-DC media, and I do think Shanahan was thinking he’d be the villain if he pulled the kid.
You can’t tell me he thought an injured RG3 who limited the guesswork the Seattle defense had to do when they realized he couldn’t run, when they realized he couldn’t throw the long pass because he couldn’t use his leg, was a better bet to finish the game than the back up who had, after all, done a good job before.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:27 am
Ditto for the JaMarcus Russell lovers.
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KoolKell Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:23 am
All you T’eo lovers need to turn in your Semi GM credentials and Stfu.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:28 am
Bring back the power scheme, Bob Wylie and Big Wiz as his assistant. Add a stud LT and a lower round C, slide JV to RT and Lil Wiz back to G… Then we might have something!!
January 8th, 2013 at 10:29 am
1298.Charlie Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:23 am
Marley
I guessed 6 wins this year.
I guess 7 next year.
We will not challenge for the playoffs till 2014 ASSUMING WE DRAFT WELL.
The thing many seem to ignore is the serious beatings we take at the hands of good teams.
What did the Packers, Dolphins and Chargers do to us down the stretch LAST YEAR?
I guess that was Bresnahan’s fault.
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Same thing the Chargers, Browns, Bucs, Ravens, Saints, Broncos, Falcons, Panther, Bengals and Dolphins did to us this year.
I guess that was all Knapp’s fault.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:29 am
The_Judge37 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:24 am
1292.KoolKell Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:20 am
The_Judge37 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:18 am
DeFilippo needs to be fired. That dude has never been a good QB coach.
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I don’t know, looks like he’s done a pretty good job with Pryor.
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Not really, his throws still look horrible.
Well, he did get Pryor ready to play…or was it Pryor who got himself ready to play…
January 8th, 2013 at 10:29 am
Dakota Says:
Amazing how 5 or 6 months ago the majority in here thought we had some pretty talented players on offense….young guys like Moore, Ford and even DHB was coming around, and we had hope for Ausberry and McFadden and Palmer were going to be a good matchup.
And then Knapp and his pathetic version of the ZBS show up and ruin everything and suddenly not only do all of us want a new OC, but in the same breath you people attack the same players that only a few months ago you were more than happy to have on the roster.
Don’t discount our guys on offense because they were destroyed by Knapp. He lost that side of the ball the minute he talk Carson Palmer he was going to be rolling out, lol, that moment the players knew they were in deep trouble, and they were dishartened most of the season.
I am willing to give those guys another shot with a legit OC before I throw them under the bus along with Knapp.
Sure, we need an insurance RB for McFadden and a #1 WR if one can be found, but that doesn’t mean we need to trash the guys we already have.
We still have guys that can get the job done so long as they believe in their coaches and have a scheme that fits their talents.
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Bravo.
And that my friends is called Coaching.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:29 am
KK, judging by your own standards….you need to STFU until further notice.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:30 am
Roster Locks:
QB – PALMER, PRYOR
RB – DMC
FB – REECE, OLAWALE
WR – STREATER, MOORE, CRINER
LT – VELDHEER
LG – BERGSTROM
C – WIZ
DE – HOUSTON, CRAWFORD
DT – BILUKIDI
OLB – BURRIS, BURNETT
CB – CHEKWA
FS – HUFF
SS – BRANCH
K – SEABASS
P – KING
LS – CONDO
January 8th, 2013 at 10:30 am
Just say ‘NO’ to Teo!!… Unless maybe he falls to the 3rd Round…
January 8th, 2013 at 10:31 am
Shoot, I need to read my posts before I hit submit.
Dayyyum, cant even blame auto correct on a couple of those!
SMH
January 8th, 2013 at 10:31 am
#1261 is a really informative post.
It brings out the long term ramifications of AD trying to hang on too long not delegating and trying to win in an uncapped year by trowing money around.
Another problem is beyond just the cap and lack of draft pics – the Raiders are a poor team in a poor market with a delipidated colusium. Not exactly a hot bed for getting awesome head coaches or OC’s.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:31 am
Raider-in-PA Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:28 am
Bring back the power scheme, Bob Wylie and Big Wiz as his assistant. Add a stud LT and a lower round C, slide JV to RT and Lil Wiz back to G… Then we might have something!!
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Yep, a hole at RG.. LOL..
January 8th, 2013 at 10:32 am
Its called the “[M]Anti Te’o” movement, started it when we locked a top 5 pick..
January 8th, 2013 at 10:33 am
dishartened? Really?
I think this blog is getting to me…..
January 8th, 2013 at 10:33 am
Dakota Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:26 am
Amazing how 5 or 6 months ago the majority in here thought we had some pretty talented players on offense….young guys like Moore, Ford and even DHB was coming around, and we had hope for Ausberry and McFadden and Palmer were going to be a good matchup.
And then Knapp and his pathetic version of the ZBS show up and ruin everything and suddenly not only do all of us want a new OC, but in the same breath you people attack the same players that only a few months ago you were more than happy to have on the roster.
Don’t discount our guys on offense because they were destroyed by Knapp. He lost that side of the ball the minute he talk Carson Palmer he was going to be rolling out, lol, that moment the players knew they were in deep trouble, and they were dishartened most of the season.
I am willing to give those guys another shot with a legit OC before I throw them under the bus along with Knapp.
Sure, we need an insurance RB for McFadden and a #1 WR if one can be found, but that doesn’t mean we need to trash the guys we already have.
We still have guys that can get the job done so long as they believe in their coaches and have a scheme that fits their talents.
Knapp set this franchise back a couple of years….not as much as Russell did, but in the ball park.
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Yeah
We all know DMAC is injury prone, but to hear people pick Knapp over DMAC is def. a head scratcher.
Knapp made our good players look mediocre.
Knapp made our mediocre players look bad.
Knapp made our bad players look horrible.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:33 am
Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 6:34 am
Like frog giggin;?
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Gig Em Aggies
Rather than end a conversation with “goodbye”, many conversations between Aggies end with “gig ‘em”, usually accompanied by a thumbs up. This tradition began at a 1930 Midnight Yell Practice held before the football game against the Texas Christian University Horned Frogs. In an attempt to excite the crowd, Pinky Downs, a 1906 Texas A&M graduate and member of the school’s Board of Regents, asked “What are we going to do to those Horned Frogs?”[13] Using a term for frog hunting, he answered his own question, “Gig ‘em, Aggies!”[13] For emphasis, he made a fist with the thumb extended. The phrase and hand signal proved popular, and it became the first hand sign of the Southwest Conference.[13] Gig ‘em is also the name of one of the school yells, which is used during football kickoffs.[14]
The university’s traditions council recognizes another possible origin for the expression. The word “gig” is used in the US Army to indicate an infraction of the uniform code, and the A&M cadets used the same vocabulary. New cadets would quickly learn to fear being “gigged” during inspection for having unshined shoes, unpolished brass, or a non-aligned “gig line”
January 8th, 2013 at 10:34 am
1309.hwnrdr Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:29 am
The_Judge37 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:24 am
1292.KoolKell Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:20 am
The_Judge37 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:18 am
DeFilippo needs to be fired. That dude has never been a good QB coach.
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I don’t know, looks like he’s done a pretty good job with Pryor.
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Not really, his throws still look horrible.
Well, he did get Pryor ready to play…or was it Pryor who got himself ready to play…
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It was Flippo that got Pryor “No where near ready” to play in week 16. So it’s safe to say Pryor got himself ready to play in week 17
January 8th, 2013 at 10:34 am
Yep, a hole at RG.. LOL..
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Give Bergstrom or Briseil a shot at RG for next year.. If neither one of them can stay solid, then draft a RG in 2014… We can only successfully fill a couple of holes per year..
January 8th, 2013 at 10:34 am
Where is Bob Wylie at?
Bring back Wiz!
Bring back Wauffle!
January 8th, 2013 at 10:35 am
Best case scenario is Joeckel, Jarvis Jones, Star Lotulelei & Damonster Moore absolutely knock the combine/pro day’s out of the park.
Then we have trade possibilities and all else fails, a solid pick.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:35 am
What are we talking about? Is there anyone at this point that thinks we should of kept Knapp?
The issue is moving forward. We can improve with better Offensive coaching but we are set to lose a lot of people this year – again.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:37 am
1960AutumnWind Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:35 am
What are we talking about? Is there anyone at this point that thinks we should of kept Knapp?
The issue is moving forward. We can improve with better Offensive coaching but we are set to lose a lot of people this year – again.
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Not losing anything vital on offense though.
And the purging that will happen is needed.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:37 am
1325.1960AutumnWind Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:35 am
What are we talking about? Is there anyone at this point that thinks we should of kept Knapp?
The issue is moving forward. We can improve with better Offensive coaching but we are set to lose a lot of people this year – again.
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I think we should’ve kept Knapp, as a tackling dummy, or maybe Seabass’s practice net.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:38 am
Heard that “the Raiders are looking for an OC who can run a High Octane Offense.”
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Well, that’s just great if you have an O-line that can form an impenetrable pocket and at least 2 wide outs that can run precise routes AND catch the ball.
I’d like to have a huge O-line that can open holes for our backs so that we have a lot of third and very short yardage. I think that’s the way to go.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:39 am
I hope they bring Shane Lechler back. I know everyone fell in love with Marquette King in preseason but everyone knows black guys can’t be punters.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:39 am
DMAC Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:34 am
Where is Bob Wylie at?
Bring back Wiz!
Bring back Wauffle!
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Waufle’s with another team.
If the incoming OC (Pat Hill, Ben McAdoo or whoever) likes angle-blocking, I’d love to see Wylie and Classic Wiz return.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:39 am
DAV#1236
Some change is needed such as Kelly or Seymour but what if we can not afford Wheeler or get our TE back Is losing Meyers a good thing? What kind of WR FA can we sign if we are 22 million over the cap?
January 8th, 2013 at 10:39 am
James Harrison is a FA.
Draft Jarvis Jones & Sign Harrison, instant pass rush..
January 8th, 2013 at 10:42 am
1960AutumnWind Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:39 am
DAV#1236
Some change is needed such as Kelly or Seymour but what if we can not afford Wheeler or get our TE back Is losing Meyers a good thing? What kind of WR FA can we sign if we are 22 million over the cap?
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Were not 22 million over the cap.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:42 am
RaiderDuck Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:39 am
DMAC Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:34 am
Where is Bob Wylie at?
Bring back Wiz!
Bring back Wauffle!
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Waufle’s with another team.
If the incoming OC (Pat Hill, Ben McAdoo or whoever) likes angle-blocking, I’d love to see Wylie and Classic Wiz return.
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What about Wylie?
January 8th, 2013 at 10:42 am
Why people continue to list Coaches who are under contract with another team as OC candidtates for us is beyond me.
PLEASE….PLEASE….stop.
Not gonna happen.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:43 am
Yea the problem is coaching. Fix that and we are magically a playoff team.
The present staff and the SIX THAT HAVE PRECEEDED THEM FOR THE PAST TEN YEARS COULD NOT PRODUCE A WINNING SEASON LET ALONE GET TO THE PLAYOFFS. SEVEN DIFFERENT STAFFS IN TEN YEARS!!!!
I think that points to a lack of talent and NOT poor coaching as being the primary problem with the Raiders over the last decade.
I believe the saying goes something like; Insanity is defined as continuing to do the same thing over and over again expecting different results.
Have you been paying attention the last ten years?
We lack talent. Just because we overpaid our players does not mean they are any good.
“It’s going to be structured around the personnel part and getting good players,” Madden said. “It’s all about players. We can talk about this thing and that thing and having good cheerleaders and all that. That’s all nice but you have to have players. If you have players, you’re probably going to win. If you don’t have players, you’re not going to win.
Our lines are WAY below the NFL average in talent which is a huge reason we have lost for as long as we have.
Far below in line talent and vastly overpaid.
We are still at the cap limit this year without a full complement of picks.
That is why I have said we are now in year 2 of a 3-5 year rebuilding project.
It took Shanahan 3 years to get to the playoffs. Why are we any different?
January 8th, 2013 at 10:45 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:31 am
Raider-in-PA Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:28 am
Bring back the power scheme, Bob Wylie and Big Wiz as his assistant. Add a stud LT and a lower round C, slide JV to RT and Lil Wiz back to G… Then we might have something!!
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Yep, a hole at RG.. LOL..
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Let Carlisle and Brisiel fight it out for RG….may the best POS win…or Bergstrom of course.
Can’t fix it all in one offseason.
Picking Joeckel would strengthen LT and RT (JV replacing Queef), and moving Wiz back to LG make too much sense…..add a free agent C and go back to power blocking of course, and that solves a ton of issues on offense….maybe we score more points and improve our time of possession stats and thereby help the defense as well? Our TOP stat was ranked #22 this year, so there is certainly room for improvement.
FA Centers:
Centers
Todd McClure
Dan Koppen
Brad Meester
Joe Berger
Jeff Faine
Andre Gurode
Jason Brown
Doug Legursky
Jamaal Jackson
Dylan Gandy
January 8th, 2013 at 10:45 am
What they need to do right now is hire an ST coordinator. You would think the organization would be aware how valuable ST play is after this season.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:47 am
When do we bring in Kenneth Moore “Ken” Whisenhunt for an interview?
January 8th, 2013 at 10:47 am
We’re not going to get anyones QB coach.
We’re not going to get anyones position coach at all.
Formulate your coach candidates from the unemployed.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:47 am
DAV
I think we are way over cap but we will not be when we cut Kelly, McClain and perhaps Briesel. However we have a lot of FA’s to resign such as Wheeler and Myers and we have no punter loss of depth at DT etc etc… We have a lot of dead money. We really will not get a good picture of this to around FA date in March. I was quoting the quote from Charlie in an earlier post. I think Clayton ESPN said he thought it was 4.5 million over at this point.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:48 am
DMAC Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:47 am
When do we bring in Kenneth Moore “Ken” Whisenhunt for an interview?
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After all the HC spots have been filled.
And if he isnt one of the HCs hired.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:50 am
A&M OT Luke Joeckel makes it official. He is entering the draft.
ESPN’s Scouts Inc ranks the 6′6″, 306 lb OT the 4th best player in the upcoming draft.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:50 am
1960AutumnWind Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:39 am
DAV#1236
Some change is needed such as Kelly or Seymour but what if we can not afford Wheeler or get our TE back Is losing Meyers a good thing? What kind of WR FA can we sign if we are 22 million over the cap?
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Brandon Myers should not be given a big contract. Lots of FA TEs that would be an upgrade.
Here is the list of FA TEs:
Tight Ends
Tony Gonzalez
Fred Davis
Dustin Keller
Jared Cook
Martellus Bennett
Brandon Myers
James Casey
Dallas Clark
Ben Watson
Anthony Fasano
Delanie Walker
Kellen Winslow
Todd Heap
Jeremy Shockey
Visanthe Shiancoe
Chris Cooley
Dante Rosario
Travis Beckum
Alex Smith
Cameron Morrah
Leonard Pope
Billy Bajema
Gary Barnidge
John Phillips
Will Heller
January 8th, 2013 at 10:50 am
Add to that the fact that we’re only one round into the playoffs and it’s not so surprising that we don’t yet have replacements for the guys DA fired.
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Not suprising?
If we fired our OC, and actually hired someone this past week, THAT would have been suprising.
Not sure what planet people are on, or when they started paying attention to offseasons, but NOBODY hires OC’s at this time in the offseason.
Some teams don’t even have a HC still. Those that replaced their HC, still don’t have OC’s either.
You will start to see league-wide interviews begin some this week, more next week, and the hires to begin in abou 2-3 weeks.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:53 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:47 am
We’re not going to get anyones QB coach.
We’re not going to get anyones position coach at all.
Formulate your coach candidates from the unemployed.
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Or perhaps College OC’s.
My preferance: I do not know Tedford’s situtation but he has a good offensive mind. If he wants to stay in Bay Area – why not invite him over for a talk. Then see if we can get Wiley and Wiz back to help or maybe some of Tedford’s staff.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:55 am
1960AutumnWind Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:47 am
DAV
I think we are way over cap but we will not be when we cut Kelly, McClain and perhaps Briesel. However we have a lot of FA’s to resign such as Wheeler and Myers and we have no punter loss of depth at DT etc etc… We have a lot of dead money. We really will not get a good picture of this to around FA date in March. I was quoting the quote from Charlie in an earlier post. I think Clayton ESPN said he thought it was 4.5 million over at this point.
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Our cap issue will not be bad this off-season.
But we are still going to be fiscally responsible in our spending.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:56 am
Not sure what planet people are on, or when they started paying attention to offseasons, but NOBODY hires OC’s at this time in the offseason.
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Report: Dennis Thurman will become Jets new defensive coordinator
January 8th, 2013 at 10:56 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:50 am
Add to that the fact that we’re only one round into the playoffs and it’s not so surprising that we don’t yet have replacements for the guys DA fired.
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Not suprising?
If we fired our OC, and actually hired someone this past week, THAT would have been suprising.
Not sure what planet people are on, or when they started paying attention to offseasons, but NOBODY hires OC’s at this time in the offseason.
Some teams don’t even have a HC still. Those that replaced their HC, still don’t have OC’s either.
You will start to see league-wide interviews begin some this week, more next week, and the hires to begin in abou 2-3 weeks.
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Better have someone hired soon….the Senior Bowl is the 26th and I am sure practices start a week or so pryor to that….it is right around the corner.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:57 am
Charlie Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:43 am
That is why I have said we are now in year 2 of a 3-5 year rebuilding project.
It took Shanahan 3 years to get to the playoffs. Why are we any different?
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I’d take playing watchable ball. Last Season was not even watchable. I mean I wouldn’t mind if we lost, but we lost with dignity–fighting till the end (atlanta game) but we lost horribly last year.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:57 am
Dakota
My guess is that Meyers will walk and we will work with Ausberry and undrafted FA’s because of financial issues. Last year I think we only made one FA signing that was much more than a 1-2 year contract at or near vet minimums (Briesel – which was a bust). If I am wrong about this I am sure you will let me know.
AW
January 8th, 2013 at 10:58 am
*prior* jezuz what is this blog doing to me?
January 8th, 2013 at 10:59 am
Last season was WAY more watchable than the Shell II, Kiffin debacles.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:00 am
Report: Dennis Thurman will become Jets new defensive coordinator
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Thurman is already on their staff, and they just canned their OC today.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:01 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 11:00 am
Report: Dennis Thurman will become Jets new defensive coordinator
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Thurman is already on their staff, and they just canned their OC today.
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That OC they canned should be priority #1 for our OL coach..
January 8th, 2013 at 11:01 am
Dakota Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:50 am
1960AutumnWind Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:39 am
DAV#1236
Some change is needed such as Kelly or Seymour but what if we can not afford Wheeler or get our TE back Is losing Meyers a good thing? What kind of WR FA can we sign if we are 22 million over the cap?
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Brandon Myers should not be given a big contract. Lots of FA TEs that would be an upgrade.
Here is the list of FA TEs:
Tight Ends
Tony Gonzalez
Fred Davis
Dustin Keller
Jared Cook
Martellus Bennett
Brandon Myers
James Casey
Dallas Clark
Ben Watson
Anthony Fasano
Delanie Walker
Kellen Winslow
Todd Heap
Jeremy Shockey
Visanthe Shiancoe
Chris Cooley
Dante Rosario
Travis Beckum
Alex Smith
Cameron Morrah
Leonard Pope
Billy Bajema
Gary Barnidge
John Phillips
Will Heller
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I thought ToGO was retiring
January 8th, 2013 at 11:02 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:59 am
Last season was WAY more watchable than the Shell II, Kiffin debacles.
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Agreed – people have short memories. The teams in the lat 90’s pre Gruden were almost unwatchable as well – Jeff George anyone?
I actually liked watching our defense once they suspended McClain and moved Huff over. I even like the offense when hurry up was used. Otherwise it was hard to watch. Did not use my rewind account much!
January 8th, 2013 at 11:02 am
1353.DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:59 am
Last season was WAY more watchable than the Shell II, Kiffin debacles.
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It was the same, if anything it’s more like the Callahan year where we expected more
January 8th, 2013 at 11:02 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:59 am
Last season was WAY more watchable than the Shell II, Kiffin debacles.
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BS! Kiffin’s teams lost something like 7 4th quarter leads. Would you rather watch a team get blown away from the beginning like DA’s teams, or at least compete for three quarters?
Now the Art Shell 2006 team….that one is probably worse, but not by much.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:03 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:59 am
Last season was WAY more watchable than the Shell II, Kiffin debacles.
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Wow, what a lame excuse. Not sure it’s even accurate.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:04 am
Better have someone hired soon….the Senior Bowl is the 26th and I am sure practices start a week or so pryor to that….it is right around the corner.
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What do we need an OC for Senior Bowl practices for? We can’t “install” any offense or anything.
That’s why we have a 67 year old consultant. Even if we do have an OC hired by then, expect Saunders to run the show down there for that.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:04 am
Remember this?.
“Dennis Thurman understood Rex Ryan blocking him from Oakland interview.
It was late January when Rex Ryan called secondary coach Dennis Thurman into his office. The Oakland Raiders had asked to interview Thurman for their vacant defensive coordinator job, and Ryan explained to Thurman the Jets had denied permission.
“He wasn’t prepared to lose me,” Thurman said. “I wasn’t overly emotional about it, because I look at it like this: it’s something I didn’t have. Would it have been a good opportunity? Yeah. But at the same time, I have a great job here. We’re trying to do something as a team, that’s obviously trying to take that next step and get to the Super Bowl.”
Thurman, one of Ryan’s most-trusted assistants, had another year on his contract, which is why the Jets could block the interview. This is Thurman’s 10th season coaching alongside Rex Ryan, dating back to 2002 in Baltimore.
During those years with the Ravens, Thurman saw Ryan be blocked from coordinator interviews before being promoted from defensive line coach to Baltimore’s defensive coordinator in 2005.
“What are you going to do? Are you going to sit there and argue with him and get into some debate?” Thurman said.
“Here is a man who obviously had it done to him a number of times, and you just have to move on.”
New Raiders coach Hue Jackson, who coached with Thurman at USC in the late 90s, admitted this week he was “a little surprised” at the Jets’ decision, since Thurman has aspirations of being a coordinator. But Ryan said his responsibility is to the Jets organization and he does not have an “open-door policy” for his best assistants to be poached.
Thurman did not want to share future aspirations, or if he wants to be a head coach, as Ryan said he did. He is focused on excelling at his current job.
And this weekend, when the Jets travel to play Oakland, he won’t be thinking about a missed opportunity on the opposite sideline.
“I’d be 1-1 instead of 2-0,” Thurman said. “Oakland is doing what they do, and the Jets are doing what they do. We have a friendship from the past. What can you do about it? … (Jackson) is going to go out in Oakland and do the best job he can do, and I’m here in New York just trying to do the best job I can do.”
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We ended up settling for Bresnahan as what I would think was a 1 year stopgag, you have to think Hue would have gone after Thurman last january when his contract expired.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:04 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:59 am
Last season was WAY more watchable than the Shell II, Kiffin debacles.
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It was way worse than Kiffin, at least he incorporated fake punts/kick-offs and TRIED to hold back JaMarcus.
As for Shell 2.0, Last Season was worse because we had seen almost the same talent perform the season before.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:05 am
Last season was WAY more watchable than the Shell II, Kiffin debacles.
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Wow, what a lame excuse. Not sure it’s even accurate.
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I agree. There’s nothing watchable about 4-12. That’s unacceptable on any level. And certainly not entertaining. If that’s entertaining to anyone, they are too easily amused.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:07 am
Kiffin was 4-12 also.
Dont see how that is more watchable than DA’s 4-12.
Which was my point.
There needs to be a sarcasm font.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:07 am
Ahh whatever, no use in thinking of what could have been.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:10 am
raidertalk Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 11:04 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:59 am
Last season was WAY more watchable than the Shell II, Kiffin debacles.
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It was way worse than Kiffin, at least he incorporated fake punts/kick-offs and TRIED to hold back JaMarcus.
As for Shell 2.0, Last Season was worse because we had seen almost the same talent perform the season before.
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Totally disagree – We did not have the same talent did you see who left in the offseason.
Secondly, Shell II offense would make Knapp look enlightened. It was so horrible that once teams got a lead they would not throw the football because they knew the Raiders could not score. The 2nd half of all games that year when we were down were essentially the strategy of the Coach in the waterboy – victory formation running off tackle the whole second half. Why risk an interception return. Raiders #3 against the pass that year! LOL
January 8th, 2013 at 11:10 am
If Saunders is OC they want, they would of fired Knapp during season
January 8th, 2013 at 11:11 am
Moose Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 11:10 am
If Saunders is OC they want, they would of fired Knapp during season
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False.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:13 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 11:04 am
Better have someone hired soon….the Senior Bowl is the 26th and I am sure practices start a week or so pryor to that….it is right around the corner.
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What do we need an OC for Senior Bowl practices for? We can’t “install” any offense or anything.
That’s why we have a 67 year old consultant. Even if we do have an OC hired by then, expect Saunders to run the show down there for that.
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Well, I would hope that the guys running the offense for next season might get an opportunity to have some input on draft picks….and what better opportunity than the senior bowl?
Sure, DA will be there….for what that is worth.
Plus, is it fair to the players at the senior bowl?
January 8th, 2013 at 11:13 am
Moose Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 11:10 am
If Saunders is OC they want, they would of fired Knapp during season
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Not necessarily. I would imagine if DA had his way, Knappp would probably still be here.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:15 am
KoolKell Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 11:13 am
Moose Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 11:10 am
If Saunders is OC they want, they would of fired Knapp during season
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Not necessarily. I would imagine if DA had his way, Knappp would probably still be here.
Agreed!
January 8th, 2013 at 11:16 am
The fan base for Oakland has been deluded for a decade thinking we had above average NFL talent just waiting to be unleashed by the right coach.
Wrong.
Our talent has been way below NFL average since 2002.
Seven different staffs with the same results over ten seasons has to tell you it is a lack of talent.
Last year was no different.
Down the stretch what happened? Pummeled by the Packers and Dolphins. Not even close.
We beat the Bears w/o Cutler, the Vikings w/o Peterson, the Broncos with Orton. We score 16 on the Chefs in OT.
2011 was hardly a success. With a $150 million player payroll and no picks in 2012 as well.
Pathetic.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:16 am
Having Saunders – a former HC and OC as your OC is not a rip off for the Seniors at the Senior bowl.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:16 am
1960AutumnWind Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 11:10 am
raidertalk Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 11:04 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 10:59 am
Last season was WAY more watchable than the Shell II, Kiffin debacles.
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It was way worse than Kiffin, at least he incorporated fake punts/kick-offs and TRIED to hold back JaMarcus.
As for Shell 2.0, Last Season was worse because we had seen almost the same talent perform the season before.
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Totally disagree – We did not have the same talent did you see who left in the offseason.
Secondly, Shell II offense would make Knapp look enlightened. It was so horrible that once teams got a lead they would not throw the football because they knew the Raiders could not score. The 2nd half of all games that year when we were down were essentially the strategy of the Coach in the waterboy – victory formation running off tackle the whole second half. Why risk an interception return. Raiders #3 against the pass that year! LOL
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Thats funny I remember Asomugha getting praised because no one would pass to him! But anybody watching Raider games back then knew opposing D’s didn’t even have to pass!
January 8th, 2013 at 11:18 am
dr_robert Says:
for all u cooper carlisle-worshipers, he has to go.
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Only remember one other poster hanging the worship word out there. Either you’ve been sparring with him too long or he DID get in your head,…or?
January 8th, 2013 at 11:18 am
So how’s everybody liking the Social Security tax hike we got at the start of the year? The gov’t needs another $2k of my take home pay to prop up a dying entitlement program. And the politians on both sides of the aisle say it’s the end of a “tax holiday”. How nice for them, since it doesn’t affect them one penny.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:19 am
The fan base for Oakland has been deluded for a decade thinking we had above average NFL talent just waiting to be unleashed by the right coach.
Wrong.
Our talent has been way below NFL average since 2002.
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As an example take Stanford Routt. We gave him like 12 million per year. KC gave him 6 million and then fired him in the middle of the year. Then another team signed him for vet minimum. When you are cut from Oakland many times you are done. If you are cut from somewhere else… There’s always Oakland?
January 8th, 2013 at 11:20 am
1960AutumnWind Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 11:16 am
Having Saunders – a former HC and OC as your OC is not a rip off for the Seniors at the Senior bowl.
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Yeah, you have a point.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:21 am
Charlie Says:
The fan base for Oakland has been deluded for a decade thinking we had above average NFL talent just waiting to be unleashed by the right coach.
Wrong.
Our talent has been way below NFL average since 2002.
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Oakland Raiders 2009 Offense: 12.3 PPG.
Oakland Raiders 2010 Offense: 25.6 PPG.
We hired the right guy to run the Offense and it resulted in close to a 2 TD per game scoring increase.
When you hire the right Coach or Coordinator and he puts your players in the best position to succeed, you get better.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:22 am
Only reason free agents come to Oakland is for the money. If you don’t think so, go look at the track record and be honest about the before-after situation of those players. No one comes here as a sacrifice to being a Raider.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:23 am
I was FIRE KIFFIN back in the day and KIFFIN’S 4-12 Raiders were a lot better than Reggie’s 4-12.
Reggie’s Raiders were a SOFT 4-12.
I’m afraid Reggie’s regression has only yet begun.
Unless Reggie has a 2012 Colts type draft this April next season will be more unwatchable than 2012.
FIRE REGGIE.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:24 am
Al was right about Aso.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:26 am
@ Dakota 1302………
Solid Man ! ! !
January 8th, 2013 at 11:27 am
1960AutumnWind Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 11:19 am
The fan base for Oakland has been deluded for a decade thinking we had above average NFL talent just waiting to be unleashed by the right coach.
Wrong.
Our talent has been way below NFL average since 2002.
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As an example take Stanford Routt. We gave him like 12 million per year. KC gave him 6 million and then fired him in the middle of the year. Then another team signed him for vet minimum. When you are cut from Oakland many times you are done. If you are cut from somewhere else… There’s always Oakland?
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No our talent isn’t great, but that is where coaching takes over. Does the coach get the most out of his players? That is the true measuring stick for NFL coaches.
Does anyone really think Dennis Allen got the most out of the Raiders’ players last season?
GTFOH!
What is the point of keeping a HC around who can’t get the most out of his players? So we bring in better players and the coach still can’t get the most out of them….where exactly does that leave us?
The Raiders have been scraping the bottom of the barrel for coaches for years….that has been a major factor in our losing.
Hey, if we had decent coaching between 2003 and today maybe some of these talented college kids that seemed to have had potential that we drafted over the years would have succeeded had we brought in legit coaching staffs?
January 8th, 2013 at 11:28 am
OK,IS THIS DRAFT STRONG ENOUGH,DO U TRADE PLAYERS AND /OR PICKS TO GET INTO THE TOP 10 IN THIS DRAFT AGAIN AND TAKE BOTH AN OT AND D-LINEMAN..JUST ASK’N
January 8th, 2013 at 11:29 am
You guys can find out any coaching changes here:
http://www.footballscoop.com/the-scoop
Bring back: Marc Trestman as OC , Bob Wiley as OL. Romo as LB coach.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:30 am
Hey Bob
Was not the 2010 year the uncapped year where Al brought in people like Campbell via trade for draft pick and the rise of McFadden. I thought there was some upgrade in talent that year. Also before there was considerable tension between Kiffin and AD and the firing of Lane in the middle of the year. I remember Cable having to take on two roles but do not remember everything like that.
I mean I liked Hue, thought he was an upgrade as an OC that year and wanted him to stay as Coach when McKensie Fired him. However, there was a lot more than magically hiring the right OC. Losing Bush for 2012 turned out to be a big deal for when McFadden went down and possibly could have been better in the zbs.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:32 am
Last season was WAY more watchable than the Shell II, Kiffin debacles.
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I was at Lame Kiffin’s last game as HC against San Diego… The only good thing from that game was the smell of some sweet a$$ ganja coming from the stalls in the mens restroom!!…
January 8th, 2013 at 11:33 am
Dan78 Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 3:17 pm
Reggie’s gut says it wish it didn’t have 2 of the Grand Slam breakfast platters…
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LMFAO!
January 8th, 2013 at 11:34 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 11:28 am
OK,IS THIS DRAFT STRONG ENOUGH,DO U TRADE PLAYERS AND /OR PICKS TO GET INTO THE TOP 10 IN THIS DRAFT AGAIN AND TAKE BOTH AN OT AND D-LINEMAN..JUST ASK’N
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Nope.
To go from the third round back into the top 10 would probably require three future first round picks.
Maybe if you packaged McFadden, Palmer, Houston and other young players and future picks it could get it done….but what team wants to take on those contracts? And even if they did, where would that leave us…..many more holes to fill than an additional 1st round pick could get us right?
Plus I think Reggie would like to hold onto his future first rounders.
I think that is a big no way.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:36 am
Reggie allowing our best running back to walk and replacing him with bargain basement talent, just like he did with our best pass rusher and starting corners is REGGIE BALL.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:38 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says
Are there players worth moving into the top ten to get? You bet. Get Joeckel and one of the decent DTs or DEs would be awesome, but again, we don’t have the firepower to get that done. If we had an early second rounder and a good young QB to dangle, then maybe….but we have neither of those things.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:38 am
1960.
There was a talent upgrade, but a 2 TD per game upgrade? no way, that’s almost unheard of.
Biggest factor was hiring the right Coordinator, “McFadden’s rise” didn’t just happen, it was by design.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:39 am
So Nate Stupar is now with the 9ers
January 8th, 2013 at 11:42 am
Should we Trade down to get more pics or Keep the number 3 pic?
I’m kind of torn because a 1st Rounder could be a potential impact-playmaker, e.g. Star or Moore.
On the other hand two 2nd rounders could help us fill more positions of need.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:43 am
The NFL should create a link to every team’s current cap numbers. They track it already so that should be simple.
Man, would that give us some numbers to chew on or what?
There are some good sites that get you to the ballpark, but I want to know the real scoop.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:45 am
Bob Marley is always a glass half full type of individual, so you know if Bob has some concerns about Reggie’s regression they are valid.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:46 am
And if you think it’s just fans that are very dissapointed with 2012’s regression, I have news for you, the GM and the owner were not pleased at all:
“This November was just, I mean, it’s a bad November.” Said McKenzie in a closed door meeting Friday.
“Now, you kind of knew, in September, beginning of the season, going to struggle a little bit. But the November part of the season has not been good at all.
And that cannot continue to happen. And it’s our job to fix it, starting with me. Player-wise, and the coaches trying to get the situations fixed.”
“It’s my job to evaluate this team, and that’s done on a weekly basis, so at the end of this thing I have my evaluation of not only coach Allen but every player and my thoughts of every coach. But that’s a season evaluation.”
“I want to know everybody who is on the short list, long list. That’s just the way it goes guys. This is my football team. It’s not a dictatorship by any means but it’s my football team and I’m responsible. We have a great line of communication so that’s not going to be an issue guys, at all. It really isn’t.
It’s my job to evaluate the situation and I’m going to get that done. We’re going to do it the right way. I can’t build a team without effectively evaluating what’s going on. You have to do it the right way, week to week.
That’s why the month of November … we have five weeks to correct that. I’ll be doing some evaluations in those five weeks.”
There is little doubt that those evaluations will center around the two coordinators.
McKenzie is very disappointed in the defense and Jason Tarver may be held responsible for that.
But his disappointment also extends to the offense and Greg Knapp’s playcalling.
“I don’t care what kind of scheme it is. Either it’s a good run call or a bad run call. It comes down to those type of things instead of just scheme.”
McKenzie is certainly not alone in his frustrations.
That goes without saying.
We heard from Mark Davis following the Raiders loss to the Saints at home two weeks ago.
That was not a chance encounter.
He made a point to step into the locker room to speak with the media and air his frustrations.
In that interview, Davis mentioned that he and McKenzie speak a lot. He said that McKenzie has complete authority in football matters but that he has his opinions and expresses them in their discussions. McKenzie echoed those sentiments Friday.
“Mark and I talk all the time. The bottom line is we want to see progress.
That November month nobody was pleased with. Nobody.
He and I discussed that quite a bit trying to put the finger on it. But we want to see better play. We have five games to do it.”
January 8th, 2013 at 11:48 am
1392.Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 11:36 am
Reggie allowing our best running back to walk and replacing him with bargain basement talent, just like he did with our best pass rusher and starting corners is REGGIE BALL.
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BS. No one LET Bush do anything. Bush CHOSE to leave town. Bush was out of here the minute Al only offered him the tender deal he got in 2011.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:48 am
raidertalk Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 11:42 am
Should we Trade down to get more pics or Keep the number 3 pic?
I’m kind of torn because a 1st Rounder could be a potential impact-playmaker, e.g. Star or Moore.
On the other hand two 2nd rounders could help us fill more positions of need.
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We’re not going to trade down and get 2 2nd rounders this year.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:50 am
We’re not going to trade down and get 2 2nd rounders this year.
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oh yeah? why not?
January 8th, 2013 at 11:51 am
1397.Dakota Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 11:43 am
The NFL should create a link to every team’s current cap numbers. They track it already so that should be simple.
Man, would that give us some numbers to chew on or what?
There are some good sites that get you to the ballpark, but I want to know the real scoop.
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For some reason they are very hush hush about that. Even guys in the business like Schefter and Clayton are taking educated guesses…
January 8th, 2013 at 11:51 am
The Bengals & Dolphins are the only teams with more than one 2nd round pick this year.
And the Bengals extra is ours.
Thanks Hue.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:53 am
bcz24 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 11:51 am
1397.Dakota Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 11:43 am
The NFL should create a link to every team’s current cap numbers. They track it already so that should be simple.
Man, would that give us some numbers to chew on or what?
There are some good sites that get you to the ballpark, but I want to know the real scoop.
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For some reason they are very hush hush about that. Even guys in the business like Schefter and Clayton are taking educated guesses…
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Do the teams get to know what other teams’ cap numbers are? If not, then I can see why they don’t publish the numbers. Also, they probably don’t want to give agents more to work with.
But as a fan it would still be great to have access to the actual numbers.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:54 am
So unless the Dolphins offer their 2014 1st along with both of their 2nds this season, its not happening.
No way we would trade that far down.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:54 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 11:48 am
raidertalk Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 11:42 am
Should we Trade down to get more pics or Keep the number 3 pic?
I’m kind of torn because a 1st Rounder could be a potential impact-playmaker, e.g. Star or Moore.
On the other hand two 2nd rounders could help us fill more positions of need.
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We’re not going to trade down and get 2 2nd rounders this year.
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Do you think we will get more picks if not 2 2d rounders (like a combo of 2-3d rounders or something)?
or
Do you think we will not trade down at all?
January 8th, 2013 at 11:55 am
Pete Carmichael seen at the Oakland Hilton…. Coincidence
January 8th, 2013 at 11:55 am
raidertalk Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 11:54 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 11:48 am
raidertalk Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 11:42 am
Should we Trade down to get more pics or Keep the number 3 pic?
I’m kind of torn because a 1st Rounder could be a potential impact-playmaker, e.g. Star or Moore.
On the other hand two 2nd rounders could help us fill more positions of need.
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We’re not going to trade down and get 2 2nd rounders this year.
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Do you think we will get more picks if not 2 2d rounders (like a combo of 2-3d rounders or something)?
or
Do you think we will not trade down at all?
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Dolphins & Rams look like the only possible trade partners at this point.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:56 am
Bob
What do you want Mark or Reggie to say?
“This is a 3-5 year rebuilding project but we still want to sell you season tickets”
Come on.
Our reality is we are at best a 7-9 team next year and it has little to do with coaching.
Tell me when the coaches make up 80% of the Raider payroll. Not opinion, just what the numbers say.
Players are 80% of the team-coaches are at most 20%.
“It’s going to be structured around the personnel part and getting good players,” Madden said. “It’s all about players. We can talk about this thing and that thing and having good cheerleaders and all that. That’s all nice but you have to have players. If you have players, you’re probably going to win. If you don’t have players, you’re not going to win. … They’re going to go out and get the best players, and if they don’t have them, then they’re going to keep trying until they get them.”
More roster pruning to come as we unload overpaid under productive players.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:57 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 11:54 am
So unless the Dolphins offer their 2014 1st along with both of their 2nds this season, its not happening.
No way we would trade that far down.
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wouldn’t say “no way”. What about a deal including both 2nd rounders, DMC and #13? I’d go for that.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:57 am
Reggie decided to not pay a rare talent like Mike Bush when Mcfadden had such obvious durability issues still baffle me.
Reggie could have paid Bush with the money he wasted om Seymour or Breisel or Bartell or Spencer.
I realize that hindsight is 20/20 but Reggie had an unmitigated disaster of a first year that started with firing Hue and only got worse from there.
FIRE REGGIE NOW.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:58 am
PurpleDrank81 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 11:55 am
Pete Carmichael seen at the Oakland Hilton…. Coincidence
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Isnt that report from last year when he was considered for our HC..
January 8th, 2013 at 11:59 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 11:55 am
raidertalk Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 11:54 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 11:48 am
raidertalk Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 11:42 am
Should we Trade down to get more pics or Keep the number 3 pic?
I’m kind of torn because a 1st Rounder could be a potential impact-playmaker, e.g. Star or Moore.
On the other hand two 2nd rounders could help us fill more positions of need.
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We’re not going to trade down and get 2 2nd rounders this year.
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Do you think we will get more picks if not 2 2d rounders (like a combo of 2-3d rounders or something)?
or
Do you think we will not trade down at all?
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Dolphins & Rams look like the only possible trade partners at this point.
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If its possible do you think its better to trade down or is it better to stand pat with the #3 overall pic?
January 8th, 2013 at 12:00 pm
FACT – Reggie didn’t offer Bush a competitive contract.
It is Reggie job to keep our best players to win games.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:00 pm
You wouldn’t move down 9 spots to pick up 2 seconds? Hell I wouldn’t even need to think about it. No matter how good that guy at #3 is, he can not help us MORE than the guy at #12 AND 2 second round players can.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:00 pm
guest123 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 11:57 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 11:54 am
So unless the Dolphins offer their 2014 1st along with both of their 2nds this season, its not happening.
No way we would trade that far down.
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wouldn’t say “no way”. What about a deal including both 2nd rounders, DMC and #13? I’d go for that.
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Why would we create a hole and trade DMC when is value is so low?..
Also Miami is content with Thomas & Miller at RB if they dont bring Bush back..
#3 pick for #13 and additional picks is the most logical.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:01 pm
1415.Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 12:00 pm
FACT – Reggie didn’t offer Bush a competitive contract.
It is Reggie job to keep our best players to win games.
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There is absolutely NO way you can prove that. But I CAN prove that Michael Bush was NOT in Alameda the day free agency opened.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:04 pm
I agree that moving down is the way to go. All this mock drafting of guys at #3 is pointless. I’d be shocked if Reggie didn’t find a trade partner and pick up more picks. And it may not be as good a deal as we all are hoping for, but that #3 pick is for sale you can be sure.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:05 pm
what up ladies n gents havnt logged on in a minute..hope all is well
my OC wishlist
1. Hue Jackson
2. Norv Turner
3. Clyde Christianson
draft, dont trade down..draft is too weak.
go with best player available, they will all adress a need, guaranteed
so going with either star or joeckel
c ya
January 8th, 2013 at 12:06 pm
Charlie.
Are you going to explain to us how Cable and Hue, under more adverse conditions, managed to win 8 games the previous 2 years while the new Coaching Staff barely won 4 while facing one of the easiest schedules in the League?.
Coaching downgrade was the biggest factor in 2012’s regression, plain and simple, not the only one, but the biggest.
DA was a rookie with no experience at any level, he should get better, but the 2012 disaster was on him and his staff, and the guy who hired him.
Also, you failed to acknowledge a previous post of mine:
Oakland Raiders 2009 Offense: 12.3 PPG.
Oakland Raiders 2010 Offense: 25.6 PPG.
We hired the right guy to run the Offense and it resulted in close to a 2 TD per game scoring increase, almost unheard of.
When you hire the right Coach or Coordinator and he puts your players in the best position to succeed, you get better.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:06 pm
According to the draft pick trade value chart, if a team wanted to trade up, say from 10 to 3, it would take their #10 pick (1300 points) plus their second rounder (480 points) plus their third rounder (220 points) plus next years third rounder (approx 200 points) to get the #3 pick (2200 points).
That seems like a lot. So it would probably take a team that had an additional first rounder or second rounder to do it and not mortgage the franchise at the same time…..but hey, Atlanta move up quite a but to get WR Jones!
To move from #27 to #6 they gave up the 27th pick, the 59th pick (2nd rd) and the 124th pick (4th rd) plus their first rounder and 4th rounder in the next draft.
Ouch.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:06 pm
Sean Payton is more likely to become our next OC than Hue Jackson is…
January 8th, 2013 at 12:07 pm
DA.V this is coming from me personally… Received a text from a buddy who works at the Hilton… No names because he can get fired
January 8th, 2013 at 12:07 pm
Also Miami is content with Thomas & Miller at RB if they dont bring Bush back..
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Thomas and Miller are plodders I doubt they are content with, and Bush is a primadonna injury waiting to happen. I think they’d be interested in DMC. In the last year of his contract anyway. If we package him and get 2 2nd’s and Miami’s 13 pick, that could set us up nicely. Time to move on from DMC if we can get value.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:10 pm
guest123 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 11:57 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 11:54 am
So unless the Dolphins offer their 2014 1st along with both of their 2nds this season, its not happening.
No way we would trade that far down.
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wouldn’t say “no way”. What about a deal including both 2nd rounders, DMC and #13? I’d go for that.
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You would give up the #3 pick and McFadden to drop back 10 spots and pick up a couple of second rounders?
Thank god you are not our GM.
For a jump like that we should get the #13 pick and both their second rounders without having to include anyone!
January 8th, 2013 at 12:10 pm
1423. hey i said wishlist, what would make sense to a lot of us may not make sense to reggie…we already know that.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:11 pm
If Reggie offered Mike Bush more money than the Bears did, Mike Bush would still be wearing Silver and Black.
Are you suggesting that he would have turned down more money from the Raiders???
If Reggie would have made Mike Bush a priority he could have easily made it happen.
Reggie gambled on Mcfadden’s health and Raider fans lost.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:11 pm
Back-n-Black Says:
Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
Like frog giggin;?
….
Gig Em Aggies
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Thank you for giggin explanation, BnB.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:12 pm
For a jump like that we should get the #13 pick and both their second rounders without having to include anyone!
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What do you think McFadden is worth? Seriously. Maybe a 2nd round pick is what I’m thinking. I don’t agree with your trade chart. It’s all outta wack. Value isn’t as much this year.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:12 pm
Bob Marley for president!
January 8th, 2013 at 12:13 pm
1422.Dakota Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 12:06 pm
According to the draft pick trade value chart, if a team wanted to trade up, say from 10 to 3, it would take their #10 pick (1300 points) plus their second rounder (480 points) plus their third rounder (220 points) plus next years third rounder (approx 200 points) to get the #3 pick (2200 points).
That seems like a lot. So it would probably take a team that had an additional first rounder or second rounder to do it and not mortgage the franchise at the same time…..but hey, Atlanta move up quite a but to get WR Jones!
To move from #27 to #6 they gave up the 27th pick, the 59th pick (2nd rd) and the 124th pick (4th rd) plus their first rounder and 4th rounder in the next draft.
Ouch.
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The draft chart is also relative based on what the team trading up values their targeted player at. Atlanta over-paid to move up for Julio (according to the draft chart) but they valued him that much, and didn’t have a lot of other holes to fill.
I don’t see a guy that valuable at the top this year, so we would have to settle for below market value on the draft chart to get the deal done. I am not saying we will get fleeced, but I could see Miami (if there was a guy they wanted) getting our pick for their first and 2 seconds where, in other years it would take 2 first 2 seconds and another mid rounder.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:13 pm
guest123 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 12:07 pm
Also Miami is content with Thomas & Miller at RB if they dont bring Bush back..
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Thomas and Miller are plodders I doubt they are content with, and Bush is a primadonna injury waiting to happen. I think they’d be interested in DMC. In the last year of his contract anyway. If we package him and get 2 2nd’s and Miami’s 13 pick, that could set us up nicely. Time to move on from DMC if we can get value.
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Lamar Miller is far from a plodder.
He is a very good prospect.
DMC makes no sense to be a throw in..from our perspective.
And they dont really need him.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:15 pm
PurpleDrank81 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 12:07 pm
DA.V this is coming from me personally… Received a text from a buddy who works at the Hilton… No names because he can get fired
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Sweet.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:15 pm
What do you think McFadden is worth? Seriously. Maybe a 2nd round pick is what I’m thinking. I don’t agree with your trade chart. It’s all outta wack. Value isn’t as much this year.
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I listened to Tim and Pat talk about DMacs trade value a few weeks back, they said MAYBE a 3rd, but we would be reaching for that. NO chance at a 1 or 2.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:15 pm
Best situation for a trade-down is for Luke Joeckel to be available at # 3.
Then LT starved teams like San Diego and Chicago who have QB’s to protect may want to secure the best LT propspect available.
Then there’s the Rams with 2 1st round picks and also in dire need of improving their OL so Bradford can emerge, they have the ammo to offer the best package but would they be interested?.
Finally you have Arizona, they have a horrible OL but no QB to speak of, still, a LT would seem to be their biggest need if they don’t draft a QB.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:15 pm
I will peg the timeline as we hire our OC the week of the Senior Bowl practices, he will be there to work with our staff, do some interviews, familarize himself with the players, but Saunders will still run the offensive practices and what not.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:16 pm
guest123 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 12:07 pm
Also Miami is content with Thomas & Miller at RB if they dont bring Bush back..
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Thomas and Miller are plodders I doubt they are content with, and Bush is a primadonna injury waiting to happen. I think they’d be interested in DMC. In the last year of his contract anyway. If we package him and get 2 2nd’s and Miami’s 13 pick, that could set us up nicely. Time to move on from DMC if we can get value.
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You don’t sweeten the pot with a player to move back! jezuz!
Even if they gave us 2 second rounders and the #13 pick, you better make damn sure you are not leaving a star on the board at #3 for a mediocre player at #13, and two possible mediocre players in the second round.
If Reggie determines that the guys at the top of the draft are not that much better than the next 15 guys, then fine, go for it…..but if we decide that, then other teams are probably going to feel the same way….unless you find a sucker like mike ditka….
January 8th, 2013 at 12:18 pm
Minny traded out of the #3 pick to #4 last year, and picked up a whopping 5th and 7th rounder.
Did either even make their team? WTF is the point in that?
All the major draft day trade action happens in the teens, we are SOL trying to trade down at #3, IMO.
I honestly feel it is a better chance we package a player (Jacoby, TK maybe) with our 3rd and move into the backend of the 2nd, then us trading down from #3.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:19 pm
raidertalk Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 11:42 am
Should we Trade down to get more pics or Keep the number 3 pic?
I’m kind of torn because a 1st Rounder could be a potential impact-playmaker, e.g. Star or Moore.
On the other hand two 2nd rounders could help us fill more positions of need.
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RM has said on more than one occasion that we need a few ‘difference makers.”
Now, that would suggest that if he thinks there IS a difference maker at #3, he’ll choose there. (Realizing, of course, that it will take more than 1 “difference maker” to build an eventual Super Bowl-bound team , but you have to start acquiring one or two at some point).
If he doesn’t judge that there’s a difference maker at #3 that will be at his position for the next 6-10 years, I’d imagine he’d opt to trade down for at least two picks at positions that will give us what he feels are immediate upgrades.
In either case, he’s looking at the D and O lines. Linebacker? Who knows?
January 8th, 2013 at 12:19 pm
bcz24 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 12:13 pm
1422.Dakota Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 12:06 pm
According to the draft pick trade value chart, if a team wanted to trade up, say from 10 to 3, it would take their #10 pick (1300 points) plus their second rounder (480 points) plus their third rounder (220 points) plus next years third rounder (approx 200 points) to get the #3 pick (2200 points).
That seems like a lot. So it would probably take a team that had an additional first rounder or second rounder to do it and not mortgage the franchise at the same time…..but hey, Atlanta move up quite a but to get WR Jones!
To move from #27 to #6 they gave up the 27th pick, the 59th pick (2nd rd) and the 124th pick (4th rd) plus their first rounder and 4th rounder in the next draft.
Ouch.
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The draft chart is also relative based on what the team trading up values their targeted player at. Atlanta over-paid to move up for Julio (according to the draft chart) but they valued him that much, and didn’t have a lot of other holes to fill.
I don’t see a guy that valuable at the top this year, so we would have to settle for below market value on the draft chart to get the deal done. I am not saying we will get fleeced, but I could see Miami (if there was a guy they wanted) getting our pick for their first and 2 seconds where, in other years it would take 2 first 2 seconds and another mid rounder.
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I, and the trade chart agree that the #3 for the #13 and two 2nrd rounders is fair. But you don’t throw in a player….the team that wants to trade up throws in the player. You didn’t suggest it, Guest did.
SMH
January 8th, 2013 at 12:20 pm
I was just at some Italian joint (Dominic’s) for lunch in EL Paso, and they had all this sports memorabalia in the head, and one was a picture of Cliff Branch scoring a diving TD over some guy named Louis Wright of the Bronco’s.
Also a picture of Lester Hayes signed “Good food, better people”.
Color me impressed, will be back for dinner.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:22 pm
Like i’ve stated for weeks.
Miami & STL are the only trade partners possible AT THIS POINT.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:22 pm
I don’t see a guy that valuable at the top this year, so we would have to settle for below market value on the draft chart to get the deal done.
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Smartest thing I read on the topic.
Don’t know who said it, but good job.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:24 pm
“some guy named Louis Wright of the Bronco’s.”
you don’t know Louis Wright? SMH
January 8th, 2013 at 12:26 pm
STL has the best scenario’s.
Best case might be acquire the Rams extra 2014 1st rounder.
Get an extra 1st in a stronger draft.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:27 pm
Before my time, don’t know all the past Bronco’s greats.
Football history is not as strong as baseball history for your buddy.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:27 pm
*In addition to other picks.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:27 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
Like i’ve stated for weeks.
Miami & STL are the only trade partners possible AT THIS POINT.
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What about Chicago and San Diego making a play for Joeckel?.
Nobody needs a Left Tackle more than those 2 teams, they are going as far as Rivers and Cutler take them and as we have seen over the last couple of years, it won’t be far if they can’t protect them.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:28 pm
The combine will change everyones thinking about this years prospects.
There’s always players teams fall in lust with.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:28 pm
Denver (-8 1/2) vs Baltimore O/U 46
New England (-9) vs Houston O/U 45
San Francisco (-2 1/2) vs Green Bay O/U 45 1/2
Atlanta (-2 1/2) vs Seattle O/U 47 1/2
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What’s the best play this weekend?
January 8th, 2013 at 12:29 pm
Reggie, call Sparano in for an interview as long as it isn’t for the OC position, more like the OL position.
Good god was he awful as the OC this year, even worse than Knapp dare I say.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:31 pm
Bob Marley Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 12:27 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
Like i’ve stated for weeks.
Miami & STL are the only trade partners possible AT THIS POINT.
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What about Chicago and San Diego making a play for Joeckel?.
Nobody needs a Left Tackle more than those 2 teams, they are going as far as Rivers and Cutler take them and as we have seen over the last couple of years, it won’t be far if they can’t protect them.
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The need is definately there.
But the ammo to trade up isnt quite there.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:31 pm
So looked at Walter Football mock and they have us picking Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah.
Haven’t seen him mentioned at all in here, what is his deal?
January 8th, 2013 at 12:33 pm
CBS Sports mock draft has Jarvis Jones as the no.3 pick.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:35 pm
Miami has an extra 2nd, 3rd & 7th this year.
St. Louis has an extra 1st this year. And an extra 1st in 2014.
San Francisco has an extra 3rd, 5th, 6th & 7th this year.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:36 pm
Star is fine, so is Joeckel and Damontre, maybe Millliner, still early.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:36 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 12:31 pm
So looked at Walter Football mock and they have us picking Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah.
Haven’t seen him mentioned at all in here, what is his deal?
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You really havent seen us talking about him?
January 8th, 2013 at 12:36 pm
Bob Marley Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 12:36 pm
Star is fine, so is Joeckel and Damontre, maybe Millliner, still early.
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No way in h, e, double hockey sticks are we taking Milliner at #3.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:37 pm
I happen to be a fan of McFadden, if you didn’t already know.
Should we trade him? Sure, if the deal is right. A high second round pick would be fine with me.
Plus, I would love to see what McFadden could do on a legit NFL team.
However, I simply think that the potential reward of keeping him at this point outweighs the possible benefits derived from trading him.
We get back a player that may or may not develop (third or fourth rounder say), for a player that we know CAN BE a stud. Injuries are a concern, but we can sign an insurance RB just in case. If Knapp was coming back I would solidly be on the side of trading him (and all our other good young players on offense because why waste their talents with knapp?), or if we bring back the ZBS….he obviously has trouble with that.
But if we get the right OC, and move back to a PBS (which fits our young o-linemen better as well), and with a full offseason to get McFadden healed up from that foot injury, then we MIGHT get the 2010-early 11 version of McFadden back, and that is worth WAY more than a third or fourth rounder we are likely to get for him right now.
I know, there are a lot of if there, but really the likelihood of getting a second rounder for him at this point are very low.
Just my view.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:38 pm
1444.Just Fire Baby Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 12:22 pm
I don’t see a guy that valuable at the top this year, so we would have to settle for below market value on the draft chart to get the deal done.
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Smartest thing I read on the topic.
Don’t know who said it, but good job.
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Thank you
January 8th, 2013 at 12:39 pm
Pass rush [DE/OLB]
O-Line [RT,G]
Linebacker
Nose Tackle
Corner Back
Tight End
In that order.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:42 pm
Cant see Reg having the patience to wait after last year
January 8th, 2013 at 12:43 pm
bcz24 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 12:38 pm
1444.Just Fire Baby Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 12:22 pm
I don’t see a guy that valuable at the top this year, so we would have to settle for below market value on the draft chart to get the deal done.
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Smartest thing I read on the topic.
Don’t know who said it, but good job.
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Thank you
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Still a lot of evaluating to be done prior to draft day lol.
Who would have thought in January that so many teams would covet crap QBs in the 2011 draft?
The #4 pick could become gold if teams fall in love with Geno Smith, or Barkley, or some DE….
January 8th, 2013 at 12:44 pm
#3 pick. I hate this phone!
January 8th, 2013 at 12:45 pm
Retaining Knapp has nothing to do with DMC staying. If DA hires another ZBS type coach to replace DMC, might as well sell off DMC to a team that could use his skills. I know we all want to go back to primarily PBS system, but I think that’s wishful thinking. This is DMC’s final year of his contract and we will end up losing him for nothing next offseason. Get what you can now I say.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:46 pm
Moose Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 12:42 pm
Cant see Reg having the patience to wait after last year
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Wouldnt be waiting. You would get picks this year and next.
Reggie is all about the big picture.
If anything that makes MORE sense to try and get their 1st next year…
January 8th, 2013 at 12:46 pm
Green Bay
You get the best QB in the conference against a rookie, with points?
Blasphemy
January 8th, 2013 at 12:46 pm
Last nights game showed why/ How the game of football is won in the trenches.
Also I hope next year we stop passing so dayum much. You need to get back to POWER RUN GAME FOOTBALL. Get big OLINE in the draft and lets get the running game back.
U need to control the game and stop passing 50x a game.. thats why the raiders always lose when Carson throws for more then 350 yards.. Phug
January 8th, 2013 at 12:47 pm
1458.DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 12:36 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 12:31 pm
So looked at Walter Football mock and they have us picking Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah.
Haven’t seen him mentioned at all in here, what is his deal?
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You really havent seen us talking about him?
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Sorry, it was more of a hint-hint, what did you say…I remember you not being as high on the guy as the glowing review Walter gave him.
Actually, the pick review talks more spack about Tommy Kelly that Star:
“Meanwhile, Tommy Kelly is a bum who doesn’t care about winning, as evidenced when he laughed after prolonging a San Diego drive with a pair of offside penalties. He’s a thug who has played so sluggishly this year in the rare instances when he wasn’t trying to injure the opposing quarterback, so there’s no chance he’s going to see a penny of his $6.5 million salary in 2013. He’s as good as gone, and 15-year-old head coach Dennis Allen lost all respect in the locker room for not cutting him after the opener.”
(Did not write this, Walter Football)
January 8th, 2013 at 12:47 pm
DRAFT OLINE .. (INTERIOR OLINE)
Draft Barret Jones.. move Wiz back to guard. Take Long in 3rd round
January 8th, 2013 at 12:48 pm
1454.DutchRaider77 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 12:31 pm
So looked at Walter Football mock and they have us picking Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah.
Haven’t seen him mentioned at all in here, what is his deal?
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Dutch, Guys have been talking him up alot in here actually. Supposedly this guy is a monster nose tackle…the kind you’d need if u were going with the 3/4.
I say u can’t change your entire base defense cuz u have one guy to play the NT position. What if he gets injured? You would need some depth there.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:49 pm
They are talking about Rolando Mclain on ESPN and what a vocal leader he was with Alabama. What the he11 happened!??!!?
January 8th, 2013 at 12:49 pm
Green Bay
You get the best QB in the conference against a rookie, with points?
Blasphemy
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agreed.
I’m thinking give me GB and the pts, and I’ll take Atlanta too at home against another rookie QB. The spread is too big in the AFC not to be tempted on the dogs. Maybe I’ll do a teaser to cover some risk.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:50 pm
There is at least 3 guys in this draft who will be better RB’s than Darren McFadden within a month of the NFL season.
He could be another guy packaged with a pick to move up.
That seems to be the trend, you don’t get a pick straight up for a player anymore, you have to package your early 3rd for a mid 2nd, etc.
Like we did with Kirk Morrison, he was worth a whopping like 12 spots in the 4th round ,lol.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:51 pm
Last nights game showed why/ How the game of football is won in the trenches.
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It all showed you can have the best team and “trenches” and still get your doors blown off at home by the best QB (see Texas A & M game).
January 8th, 2013 at 12:51 pm
and 15-year-old head coach Dennis Allen lost all respect in the locker room for not cutting him after the opener.”
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lol
January 8th, 2013 at 12:52 pm
1462.DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 12:39 pm
Pass rush [DE/OLB]
O-Line [RT,G]
Linebacker
Nose Tackle
Corner Back
Tight End
In that order.
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Receivers would be very high on my list.
We won’t be able to do anything with the drop happy schleps we have currently.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:53 pm
Only 3 teams in the NFL ran the ball more than they passed last year.
And the Raiders were 18th in 3rd and 1 run conversion, ahead of Seattle and SF!!!!
Suprised the hell out of me. Great website for some serious stat dorks like myself.
http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/index.asp
January 8th, 2013 at 12:53 pm
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 12:49 pm
They are talking about Rolando Mclain on ESPN and what a vocal leader he was with Alabama. What the he11 happened!??!!?
—Sucka got paid…
January 8th, 2013 at 12:53 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 12:48 pm
1454.DutchRaider77 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 12:31 pm
So looked at Walter Football mock and they have us picking Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah.
Haven’t seen him mentioned at all in here, what is his deal?
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Dutch, Guys have been talking him up alot in here actually. Supposedly this guy is a monster nose tackle…the kind you’d need if u were going with the 3/4.
I say u can’t change your entire base defense cuz u have one guy to play the NT position. What if he gets injured? You would need some depth there.
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A guy who can play NT can also play DT in a 4-3….It may not be a flashy pick, but you might be surprised at how good our LBers might look with a good DT who plays the run instead of going after the QB all the time.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:53 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 12:46 pm
Moose Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 12:42 pm
Cant see Reg having the patience to wait after last year
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Wouldnt be waiting. You would get picks this year and next.
Reggie is all about the big picture.
If anything that makes MORE sense to try and get their 1st next year…
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Dont think he will trade #3 with a no-name defence without one impact player, more likely DMC is traded to recoup some late picks
January 8th, 2013 at 12:53 pm
lol…within a month…comedy hour in here or what…
January 8th, 2013 at 12:55 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 12:50 pm
There is at least 3 guys in this draft who will be better RB’s than Darren McFadden within a month of the NFL season.
He could be another guy packaged with a pick to move up.
That seems to be the trend, you don’t get a pick straight up for a player anymore, you have to package your early 3rd for a mid 2nd, etc.
Like we did with Kirk Morrison, he was worth a whopping like 12 spots in the 4th round ,lol.
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Long-time McFadden hater + McClain Supporter + Knapp supporter.
Sorry Vegas!
January 8th, 2013 at 12:55 pm
Here’s the stat on that, 3rd and 1 conversion ratio.
Look at the Browns and their “elite” O-line and RB.
They converted a stellar 31% of their 3rd and 1 runs.LMAO!!!!!
http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/tmleaders.asp?type=Rushing&range=NFL&rank=016
January 8th, 2013 at 12:56 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 12:52 pm
1462.DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 12:39 pm
Pass rush [DE/OLB]
O-Line [RT,G]
Linebacker
Nose Tackle
Corner Back
Tight End
In that order.
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Receivers would be very high on my list.
We won’t be able to do anything with the drop happy schleps we have currently.
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But we have bodies at WR.
The other positions we dont even have bodies, nevermind the need.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:56 pm
Long-time McFadden hater + McClain Supporter + Knapp supporter.
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Hey 1 out of 3 is better than the Cleveland Browns conversion ratio on 3rd and 1 running plays, lol.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:58 pm
18 of the 32 teams converted less than 50% of running plays on 3rd and 1.
Either you QB sneak it, or pass it today on 3rd and 1.
Running plays simply do not work. The Seahawks and 49ers converted them at 41 and 38%.
That is shatty poor.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:58 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 3:55 pm
Scourge Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 3:52 pm
Beeech, I think old Marie Kane is on Kell’s *ss to make cold calls tryin to sell that listing he’s had for so long.
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I sold that in November. Thanks.
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http://kaneandassociatesrealtors.com/default.asp.f-listings_byagent.agentid-9788
You are such a liar.
You had no listings in the last 15 months except that one shack, that still remains unsold.
Why do you lie?
January 8th, 2013 at 12:59 pm
I don’t hate McFadden, but his shelf life is akin to a couple days away from the expiration date on a gallon of milk. It would be wise to pawn him off on somebody as their reclamation project. Besides if Bush got paid $14 million, what do you think DMC will get if stays healthy and produces 2010 like stats? We can’t afford him if he reaches his upside and we are stuck with zero trade value after the season if he does get hurt because he’s a UFA.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:59 pm
Kell? why did you post a link to a website that proves you are a failure?
wasn’t your brightest move, was it?
January 8th, 2013 at 12:59 pm
You create a void by trading McFadden.
High caliber player with manageable cap figure going into a contract year…Not sure that makes sense to trade.
January 8th, 2013 at 1:01 pm
High caliber player
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says who?
January 8th, 2013 at 1:02 pm
Raiders must draft one of the three premier pass rushers: Werner DE, FSU; Moore DE, Texas A&M, or Jones DE, GA.
Reggie should move back if two or more are still availble; I could see Philly or Detoirt moving up into Raiders’ third position to draft Loeckel.
there are no QBs or CBs worth the #3 overall.
January 8th, 2013 at 1:03 pm
Redskins filled their need at RB in the 6th round with the ZBS. Not hardly the void you think it is.
January 8th, 2013 at 1:04 pm
Should Reggie use our one of of our late round picks or a player to combine to with our third to move up into the second round?
January 8th, 2013 at 1:05 pm
1445.guest123 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 12:24 pm
“some guy named Louis Wright of the Bronco’s.”
you don’t know Louis Wright? SMH
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I think Louis Wright was one of the guys who picked off two of Kenny Stablers 7 int’s in a 30-7 loss at home in 1978.
Don’t worry. We got em back a couple weeks later when we bolted out to a 24-0 lead at Mile High before Craig Morton hit on a couple of garbage td’s late in a 24-14 Raider victory.
January 8th, 2013 at 1:05 pm
Trade Brisiel to Seattle or Washington!
January 8th, 2013 at 1:06 pm
Do we run a ZBS?
We currently have no OC or OL coach.
So IDK how anyone can say either way.
January 8th, 2013 at 1:06 pm
Just Fire Baby, I still gotta know how shell casings figured into the El Paso sunrise.
January 8th, 2013 at 1:06 pm
Pete Carmichael could be next OC.. Reggie wanted to interview him for HC.
Dennis Allen has ties to the Aints.. and they all could be chillin in the hot tub right now talking Foozeball.
Reggie, DA, Pete Carmichael chill in the hot tub drinkin Coors Lights.
Reggie saying he just needs more juice
January 8th, 2013 at 1:07 pm
Should Reggie use our one of of our late round picks or a player to combine to with our third to move up into the second round?
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I would hope so. It depends really on the value that falls into the second day.
January 8th, 2013 at 1:08 pm
I tried telling u guys this before. There is no difference between a NT and a DT. U know u become a NT? Ur called that by ur coach. The next coach decides to run a 4-3 and he calls u a DT. There is no tattoo on star’s forehead that days NT. he’s a big kid. So are DT’s. some aren’t as big. An NT usually gets blocked by the C. A DT will get blocked by a C or a G. Shifts are made to gaps. It’s all fluid.
And it’s a joke to think green beanie would be more successful by moving over a few feet. And that somehow he went from great to putrid cuz he played a few feet over. It’s the same position. U just have two inside backers instead of one.
January 8th, 2013 at 1:09 pm
Carmichael would be that “high octane” coach that we’ve been hearing rumors about. Hope it’s true.
January 8th, 2013 at 1:09 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 1:04 pm
Should Reggie use our one of of our late round picks or a player to combine to with our third to move up into the second round?
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Absolutely not.
January 8th, 2013 at 1:11 pm
No only trade down.. not up
January 8th, 2013 at 1:14 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 12:53 pm
Only 3 teams in the NFL ran the ball more than they passed last year.
And the Raiders were 18th in 3rd and 1 run conversion, ahead of Seattle and SF!!!!
Suprised the hell out of me. Great website for some serious stat dorks like myself.
http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/index.asp
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The Raiders were 27th in the league on 3rd down conversions at 35%
Although Pryor converted 53%
January 8th, 2013 at 1:16 pm
1504.guest123 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 1:09 pm
Carmichael would be that “high octane” coach that we’ve been hearing rumors about. Hope it’s true.
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Yeah. I love that term “High Octane”…especially if it is applied to something the Raiders are doing.
January 8th, 2013 at 1:17 pm
Pryor is awesome. Dump Palmer now.
January 8th, 2013 at 1:17 pm
I will say it one more time.
Reggie inherited the most expensive 8-8 team in NFL history.
Marley I did not ignore you.
Name a good defense against which we controlled the game on offense in 2011?
The PATS, Packers Dolphins and even the Chefs all shut down our O.
I know what the points per game totals are.
I also know about a guy who drowned in a river where the average depth was 2 feet. BFD.
We got dominated by good defenses. End of story.
Our offense scored against weak defenses or at garbage time.
Reggie kept guys that were going to be major cap hits trying to get another year out of them. He restructured where he could.
Dmac would have been a huge cap hit to cut him.
Bush’s cap hit was zero.
Paying what we already committed to underperformers like Seymour and Kelly made it impossible to keep guys who wanted more money but REPRESENTED ZERO CAP HIT WHEN THEY LEFT.
Bush and Wimbley both fell into that area.
How much dead money do you think we could afford given we were $22 million over the cap when 2012 started?
January 8th, 2013 at 1:19 pm
Yeah. I love that term “High Octane”…especially if it is applied to something the Raiders are doing.
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And let’s be honest. First time you heard Greg Knapp was coming back to be the offensive coordinator, didn’t the phrase “low octane” come to mind?
January 8th, 2013 at 1:20 pm
We need a new thread.
Whats everybodys take on the slow movement on the OC front?
waiting for green bay to exit the playoffs?
January 8th, 2013 at 1:21 pm
The Raiders were 27th in the league on 3rd down conversions at 35%
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Yup, and marginally better converting them running the ball.
3rd down passing offense was misery.
January 8th, 2013 at 1:23 pm
1508.DJ Johnny Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 1:16 pm
1504.guest123 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 1:09 pm
Carmichael would be that “high octane” coach that we’ve been hearing rumors about. Hope it’s true.
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Yeah. I love that term “High Octane”…especially if it is applied to something the Raiders are doing.
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When i hear “High Octane” i think of a lot of passing. We don’t really need that.
January 8th, 2013 at 1:23 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 1:21 pm
The Raiders were 27th in the league on 3rd down conversions at 35%
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Yup, and marginally better converting them running the ball.
3rd down passing offense was misery.
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Your boy, Greg Knapp whom you were so infatuated with, insisted on throwing the ball in front of the sticks.
January 8th, 2013 at 1:23 pm
Just Fire Baby, I still gotta know how shell casings figured into the El Paso sunrise.
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They share a border with the most murderous city in the world Juarez.
You woke up and saw the beautifuly Sierra’s, I woke up from the La Quinta, and saw beautiful Juarez.
And it is not as unusal as you would like, to walk around these federal housing complexs and see shell casings on the ground here and there.
January 8th, 2013 at 1:24 pm
WEll have been saying it for weeks now , now I hear his name all over national radio and ppl that love him.
But Raiders need Eddie Lacy.
I’d take a young guy like him over DMAC at this point
January 8th, 2013 at 1:25 pm
my hope is that Reggie is able to move back a couple of spots and draft either Moore or Werner;
I expect Jones to be drafted by Kansas City, Lotulelei to be drafted by Jacksonville; this would allow for Detroit, Philadelphia, or another team to compete for Joeckel.
January 8th, 2013 at 1:27 pm
I’d take just about any young RB over McFadden.
Dude is not the same player anymore, Lis Franc is not some run of the mill injury.
My wife told me some soldier came in with it, and had to get his Big Toe removed eventually.
Never healed and lost a toe out of it.
McFadden has about 400 mediocre touches left in him until he hightails it back to Little Rock.
January 8th, 2013 at 1:27 pm
We can’t afford to cut Palmer (or trade him for that matter); we need to hope he retires; that’s the only way to save the real money and the cap space.
January 8th, 2013 at 1:28 pm
Been saying all along Carmichael is a favorite…but no some people here question why would he would leave his Saints OC job for the Raiders OC job. It will probably take an extra mil or 2, won’t be cheap but that would do it.
January 8th, 2013 at 1:28 pm
Charlie.
You are talking about Reggie and the cap situation, yes it was a mess, but most of the core players remained from the past 2 years.
I’m talking about a steep coaching downgrade from the 2010 and 2011 Raider teams to the 2012 version, most of the same core players, a 4 win drop-off while facing one of the easiest schedules in the League and a few negative records set.
January 8th, 2013 at 1:29 pm
time to move on from most of our remaining first round busts:
McFadden, McClain, Heyward-Bey.
January 8th, 2013 at 1:29 pm
Most ppl dont know but DMAC was had a few injuries in college.
Ankle.. and a Broken toe
January 8th, 2013 at 1:30 pm
1520.RaiderRetribution Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 1:27 pm
We can’t afford to cut Palmer (or trade him for that matter); we need to hope he retires; that’s the only way to save the real money and the cap space.
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Forget saving money, we need a QB and we could to a lot worse than Palmer.
January 8th, 2013 at 1:31 pm
time to move on from most of our remaining first round busts:
McFadden, McClain, Heyward-Bey.
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sucks to say well not about mcClain but ur right. Time to move on if u really want to rebuild a team. DHB , Dmac, Tommy Kelly, Huff .. all gotta go..
January 8th, 2013 at 1:34 pm
Raiders offense as of today:
QB-Pryor (Palmer on IR)
RB- Reece & McFadden (like I said before Reece gets first billing)
TE- Ausberry or Gordon take your pick (Meyrs an UFA)
T-Vehldeer & Bergstrom
G-Nix & Brisiel
C- Wisniewski
WR- Streater & Moore (DHB probably gone at $7 million)
January 8th, 2013 at 1:36 pm
The last Al Davis, sadly, nation media insult will come on draft day, when we trade McLain and the 3rd pick in the 7th round, for a late 6th round pick.
It will be “once the #8 overall pick in 2010, today McClain was traded to move up 9 spots from the 7th round to the 6th round, of which the pick was unheard of RB Kasey Carrier from the University of New Mexico”.
Something like that.
January 8th, 2013 at 1:36 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 1:36 pm
The last Al Davis, sadly, nation media insult will come on draft day, when we trade McLain and the 3rd pick in the 7th round, for a late 6th round pick.
It will be “once the #8 overall pick in 2010, today McClain was traded to move up 9 spots from the 7th round to the 6th round, of which the pick was unheard of RB Kasey Carrier from the University of New Mexico”.
Something like that.
Well played JFB! Well played!
January 8th, 2013 at 1:37 pm
Allday; I thought about Huff, but he has proven to be a solid CB; better than a safety; his contract/salary is now more relevant to his position/performance.
This is one player I could see the Raiders trading as he has value; teams will want his services.
January 8th, 2013 at 1:38 pm
I would trade a sixth round pick and McClain to another team for a 7th round pick just to get him off of our team.
January 8th, 2013 at 1:39 pm
Im fine with huff at corner.. but lets be real.. if u ever want to be a good team.. Huff cant be starting corner for u
January 8th, 2013 at 1:40 pm
Why RGIII will not be long in the league.
3rd and long conversion %, he was dead last in the NFL. Heck he was 20th in the NFC, worse than all 3 of the hacks from AZ.
http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/leaders.asp?range=NFC&type=Passing&rank=047&year=2012
January 8th, 2013 at 1:41 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 1:27 pm
I’d take just about any young RB over McFadden.
Dude is not the same player anymore, Lis Franc is not some run of the mill injury.
My wife told me some soldier came in with it, and had to get his Big Toe removed eventually.
Never healed and lost a toe out of it.
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Prolly because he didn’t stay off of it for the REQUIRED 6 weeks.
January 8th, 2013 at 1:41 pm
Jay Cutler led the NFL in 4th quarter QBR.
Elite stuff
http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/leaders.asp?range=NFL&type=Passing&rank=110&year=2012
January 8th, 2013 at 1:42 pm
Well, since every draft “expert” and almost every analyst out there lauded the Raiders for drafting McClain I doubt they would make a big deal out of it.
January 8th, 2013 at 1:45 pm
Rolondo McClain & Jamarcuss Russell were both obvious picks. The Raiders weren’t able to develop them.
January 8th, 2013 at 1:46 pm
Carson, 16th IN THE AFC, in QB rating in 2 WR sets.
And what set did we run more of, yup 2 WR sets.
Knapp was awesome.
http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/leaders.asp?range=AFC&type=Passing&rank=224&year=2012
January 8th, 2013 at 1:47 pm
Tyrann mathieu big bro and is being mentored by Patrick Peterson.. working out with him all of season and living with him / his parents.
Thats a good deal right htere. Hopefully he can stay str8 and come back an ball like Vontaze did.
I’d take a chance on him with a later 3r 4th rounder. Punt Returner too
January 8th, 2013 at 1:51 pm
I would trade up into the 2nd for the Honey Badger, even though I think he is faking the tears on ESPN and won’t provide much of an impact if any defensively.
But he can have a Devin Hester like impact in the return game, and the Bears rode that hot hand into the Super Bowl and for about 5-6 years.
Going from the dreck we have had returning kicks to that dude returning them, would be one of the biggest jumps in quality you could have for the whole team.
January 8th, 2013 at 1:52 pm
1537.KoolKell Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 1:45 pm
Rolondo McClain & Jamarcuss Russell were both obvious picks. The Raiders weren’t able to develop them.
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I don’t believe that, but if that’s the case then Al was Right to fire all of their coaches.
January 8th, 2013 at 1:55 pm
still amatuer hour in here…?
January 8th, 2013 at 1:56 pm
God Bless.
January 8th, 2013 at 1:56 pm
Oakland Raiders Given Permission To Interview Pete Carmichael
By Matt Conner on Jan 17, 2012
The New Orleans Saints’ offense was, at times, unstoppable this season. It’s not surprising, then, that someone associated with the incredibly potent group led by Drew Brees would be interviewed for a head coaching gig. Pete Carmichael Jr. is the Saints’ offensive coordinator and the latest name tied to the Oakland Raiders’ search for a replacement for Hue Jackson, who was let go recently by new general manager Reggie McKenzie.
“Former Oakland owner Al Davis, who died in October, would be proud of the Carmichael interview,” writes Bill Williamson. “He is a textbook Oakland candidate. He is young and offensive minded. The 40-year-old Carmichael has been an assistant on some powerful offensive teams and he worked for Sean Payton, a young coach who Davis coveted at one point. Carmichael called plays while Payton was injured earlier in the season and he is considered a coach on the rise. Davis loved finding this type of coach and now his replacement is doing the same.”
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I have no doubt that 2012 would have been a much better season had we hired Pete Carmichael instead of Dennis Allen.
Reggie’s gut was wrong.
January 8th, 2013 at 1:57 pm
Lmao…2nd round pick on a drug addict midget punt returner?
Come on Vegas, you are killing me!
January 8th, 2013 at 1:57 pm
Since DMAC is injury prone why not move him out to WR or give him a role like Charlie Garner used to have. Still gets lots of touches and production but not the constant punishment of an everydown back running between the tackles.
January 8th, 2013 at 2:00 pm
DT42 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 1:57 pm
Since DMAC is injury prone why not move him out to WR or give him a role like Charlie Garner used to have. Still gets lots of touches and production but not the constant punishment of an everydown back running between the tackles.
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That’s what i was saying a long time ago, the guy is just scared to get hit now, move him to WR
January 8th, 2013 at 2:00 pm
Oakland Raiders Given Permission To Interview Pete Carmichael
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But what kind of offense will Carmichael be allowed to run if he is hired? DA wanted Mike Sherman but settled for Knapp. He prefers a Houston style offense. Will Reggie force a change?
January 8th, 2013 at 2:01 pm
Bob Marley Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 11:38 am
1960.
There was a talent upgrade, but a 2 TD per game upgrade? no way, that’s almost unheard of.
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Not if Jamarcus Russell was your starting Q the prior years. Remember him?
January 8th, 2013 at 2:01 pm
I wouldn’t be at all suprised if Matthieu ends up like Hester, and after a year or two moves to the offensive side of the ball part time.
He was not a good cover corner, and no defense in the NFL is going to let him play “rover”.
January 8th, 2013 at 2:03 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 1:45 pm
Rolondo McClain & Jamarcuss Russell were both obvious picks. The Raiders weren’t able to develop them.
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That’s the main thing I worry about with ANY premium picks we have. How much of “Their” failures were character flaws, and how much was it the failed leadership they received? Could be a combo of both, but who says we don’t take the “Obvious” pick this year and have him flame out? Just never freakin know….
January 8th, 2013 at 2:05 pm
Lmao…2nd round pick on a drug addict midget punt returner?
Come on Vegas, you are killing me!
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Seriously, after so many draft flops over the years, if you can tell me we are getting a top flight kick returner, a 2nd round pick would be a steal for us.
As far as the “midget” thing, you want kick returners to be short and compact, that’s what works best.
January 8th, 2013 at 2:05 pm
Adrian Peterson was my first choice, Megatron my second; did not want Jamarcus, never did.
He was a gamble, especially with the weak coaching staffs Al always hired.
January 8th, 2013 at 2:05 pm
ROlando McClain should have never been forced to play in 4-3 from the start, J RuSSell was just in there for the money, most qb’s when they get drafted usually want to get into training camp and get to work with the team, this guy held out until 3 or 4th week of regular season for couple of mils
January 8th, 2013 at 2:06 pm
1548.DT42 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 2:00 pm
Oakland Raiders Given Permission To Interview Pete Carmichael
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But what kind of offense will Carmichael be allowed to run if he is hired? DA wanted Mike Sherman but settled for Knapp. He prefers a Houston style offense. Will Reggie force a change?
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He was given permission to interview for the HC job last year. Teams can’t interview other team’s OC’s for anything other than the HC position while still under contract.
January 8th, 2013 at 2:06 pm
pass resh speacialist, pass rush specialist; we must put pressure on Manning and Rivers; take advantage of their weak OLs;
sign Denver’s Clady on the FA market
January 8th, 2013 at 2:06 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 1:52 pm
1537.KoolKell Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 1:45 pm
Rolondo McClain & Jamarcuss Russell were both obvious picks. The Raiders weren’t able to develop them.
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I don’t believe that, but if that’s the case then Al was Right to fire all of their coaches.
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Well, considering their pedigree coming out of college, and they were both need positions. I was good with both choices.
But how many good players come from the state of Alabama besides Joe Namath?
January 8th, 2013 at 2:07 pm
As far as the “midget” thing, you want kick returners to be short and compact, that’s what works best.
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Ford / Sproles……POW
January 8th, 2013 at 2:07 pm
draft Moore, Werner, Jones
pass rush pass rush pass rush
January 8th, 2013 at 2:07 pm
most qb’s when they get drafted usually want to get into training camp and get to work with the team, this guy held out until 3 or 4th week of regular season for couple of mils
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I think Al realized he blew it, and was trying to get as much protective language in there as possible.
And then slapped a lawsuit on him on the way out the door!!!!
Long-live Al
January 8th, 2013 at 2:08 pm
Not sure when Carmichael’s contract expires though.
January 8th, 2013 at 2:09 pm
NFL Players Born in the State of Alabama:
(not very impressive imo)
http://www.databasefootball.com/players/player_bystate.htm?state=AL
January 8th, 2013 at 2:09 pm
D-Moore gets credit for being only 21 and playing well, so does Jarvis Jones get deducted for being 23 years old?
Dude is the oldest guy on the field probably every game.
January 8th, 2013 at 2:12 pm
1562.KoolKell Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 2:09 pm
NFL Players Born in the State of Alabama:
(not very impressive imo)
http://www.databasefootball.com/players/player_bystate.htm?state=AL
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And Jamarcus and Rolando were positions where they have to make reads. Can’t ask anyone from Alabama to read.
January 8th, 2013 at 2:17 pm
Boss01 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 2:06 pm
1548.DT42 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 2:00 pm
Oakland Raiders Given Permission To Interview Pete Carmichael
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But what kind of offense will Carmichael be allowed to run if he is hired? DA wanted Mike Sherman but settled for Knapp. He prefers a Houston style offense. Will Reggie force a change?
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He was given permission to interview for the HC job last year. Teams can’t interview other team’s OC’s for anything other than the HC position while still under contract.
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His contract has expired.
January 8th, 2013 at 2:17 pm
And Jamarcus and Rolando were positions where they have to make reads. Can’t ask anyone from Alabama to read.
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Lol. I’ll pass.
January 8th, 2013 at 2:20 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 2:01 pm
I wouldn’t be at all suprised if Matthieu ends up like Hester, and after a year or two moves to the offensive side of the ball part time.
He was not a good cover corner, and no defense in the NFL is going to let him play “rover”.
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“Mathieu compiled 57 tackles with 8.5 tackles for a loss, 4.5 sacks, five forced fumbles, two interceptions, seven passes broken up and two interceptions as a freshman in 2010.”
i dont know, seems like he had pretty good coverage….its not like LSU db’s are garbage, either…a few are in the NFL
January 8th, 2013 at 2:23 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 1:40 pm
Why RGIII will not be long in the league.
3rd and long conversion %, he was dead last in the NFL. Heck he was 20th in the NFC, worse than all 3 of the hacks from AZ.
http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/leaders.asp?range=NFC&type=Passing&rank=047&year=2012
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A qb to actually lead the Redskins to the playoffs in years and probably a victory if he wasnt hurt.
Can we proclaim this “reality” when he’s actually out of the league?
lmao! This coming from a team fan base who hasnt tasted playoffs in a decade.
January 8th, 2013 at 2:23 pm
RaiderSam Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 2:17 pm
Boss01 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 2:06 pm
1548.DT42 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 2:00 pm
Oakland Raiders Given Permission To Interview Pete Carmichael
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But what kind of offense will Carmichael be allowed to run if he is hired? DA wanted Mike Sherman but settled for Knapp. He prefers a Houston style offense. Will Reggie force a change?
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He was given permission to interview for the HC job last year. Teams can’t interview other team’s OC’s for anything other than the HC position while still under contract.
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His contract has expired.
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Did’nt know that, yeah he should be the man for the job no doubt. And if DA stinks it up again, he will be next in line to be HC, ala Hue.
January 8th, 2013 at 2:24 pm
This is your brain
298.eastoaklandraider Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 3:41 pm
For all you Manti Te’o lovers the time has finally come for ya boy to be exposed, I ve said for weeks months that he was a fraud, now its put up or shut up time vs an opponent who will not let up this game is a true legacy game for Manti. This game will surely take Manti’s name out of the ring of our draft plans, if im wrong I will eat crow tomorrow but I doubt it.
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This is your brain on drugs
368.DKnight007 Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 4:50 pm
ND-17
Bama-13
Te’o solidifies his status tonight.
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Any questions?
January 8th, 2013 at 2:25 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 2:07 pm
most qb’s when they get drafted usually want to get into training camp and get to work with the team, this guy held out until 3 or 4th week of regular season for couple of mils
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I think Al realized he blew it, and was trying to get as much protective language in there as possible.
And then slapped a lawsuit on him on the way out the door!!!!
Long-live Al
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worst draft pick in history – and here are the other misses
Aaron Rodgers
Calvin Johnson
Adrian Peterson
Larry Fitzgerald
Ben Rothelisberger
Jay Cutler (arguably)
January 8th, 2013 at 2:26 pm
geno smith said thanks DA but no thanks i dont want to be coached by you….
January 8th, 2013 at 2:26 pm
Vegas, I am paraphrasing but is this really your stance?
You want to cut or trade Palmer, but not start Pryor, and trade McFadden for a low draft pick, and use late round picks on the o-line because the o-line doesnt matter and keep McClain because he was injured and it’s not his fault, and re- hire Greg knapp because it is everyone else’s fault the offense sucks, and then draft a midget cb who is a drug addict by trading up to get him in the second round?
At least you knew Lexi was hot!
January 8th, 2013 at 2:28 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 2:26 pm
geno smith said thanks DA but no thanks i dont want to be coached by you….
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To which DA said
What happened v. Kansas St. and Syracuse?
January 8th, 2013 at 2:30 pm
1558.theghostronin79 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 2:07 pm
As far as the “midget” thing, you want kick returners to be short and compact, that’s what works best.
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Ford / Sproles……POW
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Never understood why JLH was not returning kickoffs, JMAC said he was too small, yet he is bigger than Ford?
January 8th, 2013 at 2:32 pm
RaiderSam Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 2:28 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 2:26 pm
geno smith said thanks DA but no thanks i dont want to be coached by you….
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To which DA said
What happened v. Kansas St. and Syracuse?
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Maaayne……FU*K YO’ MAMMA (National Lampoon Vacation)
January 8th, 2013 at 2:36 pm
Never understood why JLH was not returning kickoffs, JMAC said he was too small, yet he is bigger than Ford?
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Taller maybe but, Ford is a little “Tree Trunk”….Solid, Strong, Explosive
Higgings was “Wirery” (Replacements)…. Had good acceleration and glided in the open field, but not built for punishing collisions (Weddle)
January 8th, 2013 at 2:38 pm
speed man cmon thats why….
January 8th, 2013 at 2:42 pm
man if cards need a retool then why the fvck is Reggie selling a rebuild?
January 8th, 2013 at 2:44 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 2:42 pm
man if cards need a retool then why the fvck is Reggie selling a rebuild?
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I don’t know if Reggie is selling a rebuild, or is it DA and his sycophants?
January 8th, 2013 at 2:49 pm
1570. EastOakland, you are the man!
January 8th, 2013 at 2:52 pm
I believe Joeckel will go #1 to chiefs and Andy Reid will find a way to bring Mike Vick to KC and imo if Vick goes there and can stay reasonably healthy KC will have a pretty good team barring they hold on to Bowe. So with Joeckel off the board what player will teams want to trade up for?
January 8th, 2013 at 2:53 pm
You want to cut or trade Palmer, but not start Pryor, and trade McFadden for a low draft pick, and use late round picks on the o-line because the o-line doesnt matter and keep McClain because he was injured and it’s not his fault, and re- hire Greg knapp because it is everyone else’s fault the offense sucks, and then draft a midget cb who is a drug addict by trading up to get him in the second round?
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You were right on par except Rolando and Knapp.
They are both dead to me now. Just waiting for the official removing of Slo-Mania from the roster to mail my #55 to 504 Raider to pair with my old #2 I sent him.
And I think Kepner is passing Lexi on the mousey-super hot scale!!!
January 8th, 2013 at 2:55 pm
1581.beach Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 2:49 pm
1570. EastOakland, you are the man!
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Thank you for the kind words sir.
January 8th, 2013 at 2:55 pm
Reid will probably take Joeckel, he is an offensive guy and Joeckel is the highest rated offensive player.
But Vick??? LMAO…that dude just got him fired, he would rather go get Kevin Kolb.
January 8th, 2013 at 2:58 pm
JFB dont need to trade up to draft the “Midget” he should be available in rounds 3 or 4.
January 8th, 2013 at 3:01 pm
Vick and Reid are quite close, Kolb? LMAO in the words of TK I think that boy scared.
January 8th, 2013 at 3:01 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 2:24 pm
This is your brain
298.eastoaklandraider Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 3:41 pm
For all you Manti Te’o lovers the time has finally come for ya boy to be exposed, I ve said for weeks months that he was a fraud, now its put up or shut up time vs an opponent who will not let up this game is a true legacy game for Manti. This game will surely take Manti’s name out of the ring of our draft plans, if im wrong I will eat crow tomorrow but I doubt it.
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This is your brain on drugs
368.DKnight007 Says:
January 7th, 2013 at 4:50 pm
ND-17
Bama-13
Te’o solidifies his status tonight.
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Any questions?
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Speaking of dudes flaming out completely on their beliefs, has anyone seen Mistic?
January 8th, 2013 at 3:05 pm
Raiders need to either draft Moore with Joeckel off the board or trade down and draft Womack.
January 8th, 2013 at 3:12 pm
With the 2nd rd pick we get from the trade down draft Barret Jones
LT-Veldeer,LG-Wiz,C-Jones,RG-Womack-RT-Bergs
I like it except for Bergs hasnt had a lot of time on the field so dont really know what to make of him, but if he couldnt beat out WSmith I dont know doesnt sound good.
January 8th, 2013 at 3:12 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 2:55 pm
Reid will probably take Joeckel, he is an offensive guy and Joeckel is the highest rated offensive player.
But Vick??? LMAO…that dude just got him fired, he would rather go get Kevin Kolb.
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I agree. I think Joeckel became the #1 pick as soon as Reid signed. Theres no clear cut #1 QB, so Reid will want a franchise LT for the next 10 years. And since hes just officially declared, I think Joeckel starts popping up as the consensus #1 in mock drafts any second now.
January 8th, 2013 at 3:14 pm
werner- can start today, 4-3 base end that will stop the run and get 6-8 sacks a year
moore-relentless pass rusher with limitless sack # ceiling that for now is a passing down specialist in the 4-3 has the frame to add even more bulk (converted lb)and possibly be an everydown DE
Star-NT that can start now used to getting doubled, will overpower every one on one block relentless with mean streak
te’o-instant starter, passionate, solid but not spectacular in all aspects
January 8th, 2013 at 3:17 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 3:05 pm
Raiders need to either draft Moore with Joeckel off the board or trade down and draft Womack.
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Trading down and taking Barrett Jones would probably be a solid idea. Jones is almost the same size as Warmack and has played tackle, guard and this year center winning a National Championship at each position. Not only is he just as big as Warmack, he is much more athletic which is requisite to play at this level.
January 8th, 2013 at 3:21 pm
Dakota Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 2:26 pm
Vegas, I am paraphrasing but is this really your stance?
You want to cut or trade Palmer, but not start Pryor, and trade McFadden for a low draft pick, and use late round picks on the o-line because the o-line doesnt matter and keep McClain because he was injured and it’s not his fault, and re- hire Greg knapp because it is everyone else’s fault the offense sucks, and then draft a midget cb who is a drug addict by trading up to get him in the second round?
At least you knew Lexi was hot!
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LMFAO!
Maybe Vegas should go back and live in Vegas until his head clears.
January 8th, 2013 at 3:29 pm
Inonewordraider Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 3:14 pm
werner- can start today, 4-3 base end that will stop the run and get 6-8 sacks a year
moore-relentless pass rusher with limitless sack # ceiling that for now is a passing down specialist in the 4-3 has the frame to add even more bulk (converted lb)and possibly be an everydown DE
Star-NT that can start now used to getting doubled, will overpower every one on one block relentless with mean streak
te’o-instant starter, passionate, solid but not spectacular in all aspects
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Thats why Im for drafting Star. Of all 4 of these guys, I think Star has the most potential to make everyone else on the D better. Werner or Moore would BOTH still be nice picks, but I actually like Barkevious Mingo from LSU as DE/OLB a little more than those guys. I think his versatility to play standing up or on the line is unmatched in this draft, but thats just my opinion.
Werner or Moore are gonna be able to get pressure just fine. But you draft Star, then the whole line is going to be better at applying pressure. Cause hes getting doubled every game. That leaves Des Bryant, Houston, Shaugnessy, and any other D-linemen that we rotate 1-on-1.
January 8th, 2013 at 3:31 pm
I’m no draft guru, but Barret Jones could be useful, as he’s good at all the oline positions.
And, that big Star feller could be the piece for the 3-4, if that’s what they want to do.
January 8th, 2013 at 3:32 pm
Kepner is smokin!
January 8th, 2013 at 3:35 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 3:21 pm
Dakota Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 2:26 pm
Vegas, I am paraphrasing but is this really your stance?
You want to cut or trade Palmer, but not start Pryor, and trade McFadden for a low draft pick, and use late round picks on the o-line because the o-line doesnt matter and keep McClain because he was injured and it’s not his fault, and re- hire Greg knapp because it is everyone else’s fault the offense sucks, and then draft a midget cb who is a drug addict by trading up to get him in the second round?
At least you knew Lexi was hot!
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LMFAO!
Maybe Vegas should go back and live in Vegas until his head clears.
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Is he hitting that special Walter white product in new Mexico?
January 8th, 2013 at 3:36 pm
On O, if we stick with ZBS Dmac should be traded.
On D, if we stick to 4-3 RO and Seymore must go but if we move to the 3-4 imo they both should be retained and then we draft Moore to be our pass rushing olb, and Burris can do the same from the other side. That leaves Wheeler as the odd man out.
January 8th, 2013 at 3:38 pm
McFadden should probably be traded regardless. He just has not performed that well here.
January 8th, 2013 at 3:40 pm
@eastoaklandraider
What would you give to resign Seymour for (contract wise$$$)? He is a free agent…
January 8th, 2013 at 3:42 pm
Seymore has sucked enough money out of this org. Fvck him and the horse. Our D played much better w/o him and Ro Mac
January 8th, 2013 at 3:42 pm
Yes to Carmichael.
Btw, just to discuss alternate theories…
It’s fine to trade down and down to collect a gaggle of picks, but you could have 12 total picks with most of them in the 5-7th rounds, and fill your roster with them, but you’d be lucky if more than 4 stuck, and lucky if more than 1 became a day one starter.
Much will depend on Reggie’s draft board itself. If he has Joekel as the top rated player on his big board, a case can be made that he’d be better of just drafting him at #3 and not trading down. You’ve got yourself a day one starter and you solve two issues with one pick by kicking Veldheer to the right.
Let’s say Joekel is on Reggie’s big board at #1, but Reggie has another LT ranked somewhere like #10 overall. That’s ok, trade down, collect an extra 2nd, can draft the next best LT.
But say that LT is taken by another team ahead of where Reggie traded down to. The next best LT ranked #35 on Reggie’s board, you’ve kind of squandered a sure fire LT (if reggie believes Joeckel is a 10 year starter) to take a lesser LT instead in the 2nd round.
And if after trading down to #10 and then #18, to collect all these extra 2nds, the BPA at #18 is a FS or a WR/Slot or a RB, it’s a bit of a wasted pick if youre focus is on building the lines, and we have good enough RBs, FS already (players that aren’t as important as the OL and front seven).
Reggie has to hit home runs with every early pick. Future NFL stars. Not just above-average players.
January 8th, 2013 at 3:44 pm
jesusraiderjim Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 3:42 pm
Seymore has sucked enough money out of this org. Fvck him and the horse. Our D played much better w/o him and Ro Mac
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Actually our defense played worse without Rich Seymour. It did play better when McLame was not in there tho. Our defense played better once Andre Carter got his legs under him. But Desmond Bryant was not the answer in run defense.
January 8th, 2013 at 3:45 pm
1601.DutchRaider77 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 3:40 pm
@eastoaklandraider
What would you give to resign Seymour for (contract wise$$$)? He is a free agent…
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Let him hit the market and see what his value is, if its too steep let him go but if he fits in cap wise then bring him back.
January 8th, 2013 at 3:46 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 3:38 pm
McFadden should probably be traded regardless. He just has not performed that well here.
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True.
He ran the year before this though Oakglen.
Put little Wiz back at LG and try Bishop as center since McFadden was running with the Veldheer?Wiz combination.
January 8th, 2013 at 3:46 pm
*Veldheer/Wiz combination.
January 8th, 2013 at 3:47 pm
Is he hitting that special Walter white product in new Mexico?
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There you go,sometimes an increased level of sobriety isn’t always the best thing.
January 8th, 2013 at 3:50 pm
Dakota Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 3:35 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 3:21 pm
Dakota Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 2:26 pm
Vegas, I am paraphrasing but is this really your stance?
You want to cut or trade Palmer, but not start Pryor, and trade McFadden for a low draft pick, and use late round picks on the o-line because the o-line doesnt matter and keep McClain because he was injured and it’s not his fault, and re- hire Greg knapp because it is everyone else’s fault the offense sucks, and then draft a midget cb who is a drug addict by trading up to get him in the second round?
At least you knew Lexi was hot!
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LMFAO!
Maybe Vegas should go back and live in Vegas until his head clears.
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Is he hitting that special Walter white product in new Mexico?
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Lol.
I’m going to go look for whatever the hell it is that Vegas is on.
January 8th, 2013 at 3:56 pm
Well, I think Dmac is the best back we’ve had in 10 years. Michael Bush a close 2nd.
January 8th, 2013 at 3:59 pm
Bergstrom is an example of a early-mid round OL pick. He spent most of the season on the bench, not contributing, and being used for what he really is — just a depth player to fill in at various positions on the OL in the case of injury. That’s a waste of a pick.
There’s usually a big drop off from the 1st round graded Tackles and Centers to the 3rd round OT/C’s. Guards and Centers can be found in the later rounds, small school standouts who get overlooked.
While a top 5 LT can always bust, there’s nothing intrinsically unwise about taking the best LT at #3, trading Dmac/etc for extra 2nds, then using them to draft a DT and a pass-rushing 3-4 OLB, then using the 3rd-5th rounds on ILB and Safety/CB, then using a gaggle of 6th-7th and UDFA selections on more interior OL/DL, to try to find a gem or two out of them that can stick.
Imo, LT, Center, RT we need to draft. LT in the 1st. Center in the 2nd/3rd. RT in the 7th that can back-up Veldheer. There are plenty of good ILBs that can be found in the 3rd and 4th rounds. Plenty of good 3-4 OLBs in the 1st/2nd/3rd (need to acquire extra picks trading Dmac/Branch/etc).
We can make-do with Huff, and the CBs we have. Football is founded so much on the lines. They can cover for the weaknesses of the DBs. Not vice versa. Focus on the lines in 2013 draft. And can make-do with our DBs/WRs/RBs/TEs. Pick up a FA #1 WR in Bowe/Wallace/Jennings. Can sign some FA CBs/FS/SS.
January 8th, 2013 at 4:01 pm
John David Booty Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 3:12 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 2:55 pm
Reid will probably take Joeckel, he is an offensive guy and Joeckel is the highest rated offensive player.
But Vick??? LMAO…that dude just got him fired, he would rather go get Kevin Kolb.
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I agree. I think Joeckel became the #1 pick as soon as Reid signed. Theres no clear cut #1 QB, so Reid will want a franchise LT for the next 10 years.
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I dunno… Philly drafted Kolb and McNabb with their first picks. They both paid huge dividends (Kolb mostly in trade.)
January 8th, 2013 at 4:02 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 3:56 pm
Well, I think Dmac is the best back we’ve had in 10 years. Michael Bush a close 2nd.
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Sadly, Nap Kaufman was a much more productive player keeping just in this century. McFadden really has not been very productive.
January 8th, 2013 at 4:02 pm
Sounds like Dmac is coming back, which indicates to me, that the next OC will be power oriented, not ZBS?
January 8th, 2013 at 4:03 pm
Why is everybody talking about taking Joekel, isn’t pass rush our biggest weakness?
January 8th, 2013 at 4:03 pm
Not sure of veldeer contract. But I would think if the move him to rt. Hes gone at contracts end. The money is too far apart. Why not go be a lt elsewhere?
January 8th, 2013 at 4:03 pm
Id take Dmac over Nap Kaufman everyday of the week, twice on Sundays.
Sorry Nap.
January 8th, 2013 at 4:04 pm
GG Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 3:59 pm
Bergstrom is an example of a early-mid round OL pick. He spent most of the season on the bench, not contributing, and being used for what he really is — just a depth player to fill in at various positions on the OL in the case of injury. That’s a waste of a pick.
There’s usually a big drop off from the 1st round graded Tackles and Centers to the 3rd round OT/C’s. Guards and Centers can be found in the later rounds, small school standouts who get overlooked.
While a top 5 LT can always bust, there’s nothing intrinsically unwise about taking the best LT at #3, trading Dmac/etc for extra 2nds, then using them to draft a DT and a pass-rushing 3-4 OLB, then using the 3rd-5th rounds on ILB and Safety/CB, then using a gaggle of 6th-7th and UDFA selections on more interior OL/DL, to try to find a gem or two out of them that can stick.
Imo, LT, Center, RT we need to draft. LT in the 1st. Center in the 2nd/3rd. RT in the 7th that can back-up Veldheer. There are plenty of good ILBs that can be found in the 3rd and 4th rounds. Plenty of good 3-4 OLBs in the 1st/2nd/3rd (need to acquire extra picks trading Dmac/Branch/etc).
We can make-do with Huff, and the CBs we have. Football is founded so much on the lines. They can cover for the weaknesses of the DBs. Not vice versa. Focus on the lines in 2013 draft. And can make-do with our DBs/WRs/RBs/TEs. Pick up a FA #1 WR in Bowe/Wallace/Jennings. Can sign some FA CBs/FS/SS.
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Great post!
Kudos
January 8th, 2013 at 4:05 pm
GG Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 3:59 pm
Bergstrom is an example of a early-mid round OL pick. He spent most of the season on the bench, not contributing, and being used for what he really is — just a depth player to fill in at various positions on the OL in the case of injury. That’s a waste of a pick.
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If there is a solid criticism of Mckenzie’s draft it is that he drafted guys that were not really expected to help this year: Bergstrom, Bilukidi, Criner. None of those guys were slated to help right away. And the Raiders needed help RIGHT AWAY.
January 8th, 2013 at 4:06 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 4:03 pm
Id take Dmac over Nap Kaufman everyday of the week, twice on Sundays.
Sorry Nap.
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Dmac is “potentially” a much better player. But for the lst four years or so, Kaufman was.
January 8th, 2013 at 4:07 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 4:03 pm
Why is everybody talking about taking Joekel, isn’t pass rush our biggest weakness?
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Its an OFFENSE first league.
We need a premier offense first. Fix the defense next season. Try to win games by scoring.
It puts asses in the seats at worst… gets us back to 8-8 or better too.
January 8th, 2013 at 4:09 pm
1620.Seymour Bush Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 4:06 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 4:03 pm
Id take Dmac over Nap Kaufman everyday of the week, twice on Sundays.
Sorry Nap.
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Dmac is “potentially” a much better player. But for the lst four years or so, Kaufman was.
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No Charlie Gardner in the discussion? Remember not only his rushing stats, but his receiving stats as well…
January 8th, 2013 at 4:09 pm
Apologies to those that don’t give a sht, but this is too good not to pass on:
Crime Historians and Stick-Up Men (and Women)
Posted by Thomas DiLorenzo on January 8, 2013 04:50 PM
I speak of course of the fundamental function of the government police. They rarely, if ever, prevent a crime, contrary to all those phony-baloney cop shows on TV. What they do is show up after the crime has occurred, take down a report, and then use the report to document that crime is out of control but would not be if only we had more and better-paid cops. They are essentially crime historians. As Ron Paul once said, the reason you are safe in your home is not because the cops are riding around town but because of the Second Amendment.
The second function of the police is to collect taxes from us for parking too long while shopping, not wearing seat belts, etc. Every cop understands that he is a revenue-gathering machine, and that that revenue is necessary to pay his salary and perks.
Case in point: A couple of weeks ago a small community market about 100 yards from Exit 52 on I-95 in Delray Beach, Florida was robbed. A few days later another community market two blocks away was robbed and two customers were shot and killed by the robbers. The police did what they always do: They showed up long after the criminals were gone, took down their report, and were therefore essentially useless.
But today they did put on quite a show of force at that same location: As I got off of Exit 52 this afternoon there were two state police cars and several heavily-armed, bullet proof vest-wearing state cops standing around, next to two cars with young middle-class-looking couples being ticketed. Their “offense” was that not everyone in the cars was wearing a seat belt. The fine was $165. (Last year the Florida legislature passed a law limiting how dark one may have his car windows tinted so that the cops can snoop and spy and tax us more effectively).
January 8th, 2013 at 4:12 pm
Gdog Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 4:04 pm
GG Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 3:59 pm
Bergstrom is an example of a early-mid round OL pick. He spent most of the season on the bench, not contributing, and being used for what he really is — just a depth player to fill in at various positions on the OL in the case of injury. That’s a waste of a pick.
There’s usually a big drop off from the 1st round graded Tackles and Centers to the 3rd round OT/C’s. Guards and Centers can be found in the later rounds, small school standouts who get overlooked.
While a top 5 LT can always bust, there’s nothing intrinsically unwise about taking the best LT at #3, trading Dmac/etc for extra 2nds, then using them to draft a DT and a pass-rushing 3-4 OLB, then using the 3rd-5th rounds on ILB and Safety/CB, then using a gaggle of 6th-7th and UDFA selections on more interior OL/DL, to try to find a gem or two out of them that can stick.
Imo, LT, Center, RT we need to draft. LT in the 1st. Center in the 2nd/3rd. RT in the 7th that can back-up Veldheer. There are plenty of good ILBs that can be found in the 3rd and 4th rounds. Plenty of good 3-4 OLBs in the 1st/2nd/3rd (need to acquire extra picks trading Dmac/Branch/etc).
We can make-do with Huff, and the CBs we have. Football is founded so much on the lines. They can cover for the weaknesses of the DBs. Not vice versa. Focus on the lines in 2013 draft. And can make-do with our DBs/WRs/RBs/TEs. Pick up a FA #1 WR in Bowe/Wallace/Jennings. Can sign some FA CBs/FS/SS.
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Great post!
Kudos
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But as I say to you guys a TON on this blog, positions are not just interchangeable. An ILB and OLB are different. A blocking TE and pass receiving TE are different. A RT and LT are different. RT is much more of a road grader type of player more designed to help in the run game. Veldheer has played well at LT. He is a more athletic type of guy and fits well over on the left side. Conceivably, you could move him over to the right side and have him flame out, and then have a LT come in and not develop. Now you have a big problem. So, you want to move him back over to the Left side? Isn’t that EXACTLY what the Raiders did with Gallery? Moved him around until he couldn’t play any position?
January 8th, 2013 at 4:13 pm
Evening, Nation…
January 8th, 2013 at 4:16 pm
Raiders trade 1st round pick (#3) and 3rd round pick to Arizona for #7 overall and AZ’s 2nd round pick.
Arizona has to be drooling over Luke Joeckel being available now.
Raiders can still nab Dee Milliner, Star, or Jarvis Jones at #7. AZ needs to move ahead of Eagles at #4 for Luke.
January 8th, 2013 at 4:16 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 4:06 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 4:03 pm
Id take Dmac over Nap Kaufman everyday of the week, twice on Sundays.
Sorry Nap.
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Dmac is “potentially” a much better player. But for the lst four years or so, Kaufman was.
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I knew that was coming, Lol.
Nap Kaufman’s 6 yr Raider Career:
52 Yards per game
4.9 ypc
127 Receptions
1107 Receiving yds
Dmac 5 year Raider Career:
58 Yards per game
4.3 ypc
158 Receptions
1449 Receiving yds.
Go figure.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/McFaDa00.htm
January 8th, 2013 at 4:21 pm
Who were the knuckleheads talking about how this draft wasn’t deep?
Jarvis Jones, Luke Joeckel, Star, Mingo, Dee, Damontre Moor, Geno, Chance Warmack, Jake Matthews, Dion Jordan, Keenan Allen, Barrett Jones…
underclassmen making this draft legit for 1st round talent.
January 8th, 2013 at 4:21 pm
McClain arrested?
January 8th, 2013 at 4:21 pm
Vic Tafur@VicTafur
BREAKING: Rolando McClain Arrested Again In Morgan County #Raiders http://via.whnt.com/ehX0BNK
January 8th, 2013 at 4:21 pm
YO WHAT UP SUPER BLOG DORKOS
The Beeech Diggity is here – your pal & hero – just checking in from the Ritz poolside
Spend the last 30mins doing yoga near the jacuzzi and got a few hizzies checking out my sweaty junk
Probably have one of my homies in the Certified Platinum Posse cruise over and pass out my business card
My card brings all them hos to my yard, whut whut
In other nose, it looks like KrappyRat is still a Sad Old Troll
Totally awesome, hopefully that never changes. Free Bro-Time entertainment
PUTTIN’ THE J IN J ZEE
January 8th, 2013 at 4:21 pm
LOL
http://www.waff.com/story/20536748/rolando-mcclain-arrested-after-traffic-violation
January 8th, 2013 at 4:21 pm
1629,
No offense, but that is kind of old news.
January 8th, 2013 at 4:22 pm
I was kidding.
January 8th, 2013 at 4:22 pm
Rush Limbaugh: Left will “normalize pedophilia” like it did gay marriage
http://www.salon.com/2013/01/08/rush_limbaugh_left_will_normalize_pedophilia_like_it_did_gay_marriage/
January 8th, 2013 at 4:23 pm
1615.mcfadden20. Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 4:03 pm
Why is everybody talking about taking Joekel, isn’t pass rush our biggest weakness?
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The best defense is a good offense, Rams and Colts won SB that way, not saying we will but we need to get the O back where it should be. Carson doesnt have many years left gotta protect him as we did for Gannon.
January 8th, 2013 at 4:23 pm
Long time listener, first time calla.. Hey. I’m a big Raida fan. I bet we can win the super bowl. I’m good wit dat.
January 8th, 2013 at 4:23 pm
But as I say to you guys a TON on this blog, positions are not just interchangeable. An ILB and OLB are different. A blocking TE and pass receiving TE are different. A RT and LT are different. RT is much more of a road grader type of player more designed to help in the run game. Veldheer has played well at LT. He is a more athletic type of guy and fits well over on the left side. Conceivably, you could move him over to the right side and have him flame out, and then have a LT come in and not develop. Now you have a big problem. So, you want to move him back over to the Left side? Isn’t that EXACTLY what the Raiders did with Gallery? Moved him around until he couldn’t play any position?
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Well look at Oher though. If a person is a good enough player, it shouldn’t matter what side you play on. You adjust. Oher adjusted to the right side perfectly for Balt as a rookie. He took care of the Raiders IIRC. The only reason they moved him back to LT is because their LT retired (I think.)
Veldheer and Joeckel could be bookends for 5+ years.
January 8th, 2013 at 4:23 pm
Wht the fk would he use a fake name, sounds pretty weak whatever the charge is
January 8th, 2013 at 4:24 pm
He’s at it again:
ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk
Rolando McClain arrested after being pulled over for window-tint violation, giving false name http://wp.me/p14QSB-6SO4
Good riddance McCheese!
January 8th, 2013 at 4:24 pm
Breaking News
Rolando McClain arrested again
January 8th, 2013 at 4:25 pm
wonder if he told the cops his name was Dennis Allen?
January 8th, 2013 at 4:25 pm
Who were the knuckleheads talking about how this draft wasn’t deep?
Jarvis Jones, Luke Joeckel, Star, Mingo, Dee, Damontre Moor, Geno, Chance Warmack, Jake Matthews, Dion Jordan, Keenan Allen, Barrett Jones…
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When Keenen Allen and Geno Smith are your best QB-WR combo, your draft stinks.
It is plush with lineman, super skinny on skill players.
January 8th, 2013 at 4:26 pm
1626.alex7 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 4:16 pm
Raiders trade 1st round pick (#3) and 3rd round pick to Arizona for #7 overall and AZ’s 2nd round pick.
Arizona has to be drooling over Luke Joeckel being available now.
Raiders can still nab Dee Milliner, Star, or Jarvis Jones at #7. AZ needs to move ahead of Eagles at #4 for Luke.
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Why would AZ be drooling? Oline doesnt matter remeber. LOL at this guy.
January 8th, 2013 at 4:26 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 4:23 pm
1615.mcfadden20. Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 4:03 pm
Why is everybody talking about taking Joekel, isn’t pass rush our biggest weakness?
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The best defense is a good offense, Rams and Colts won SB that way, not saying we will but we need to get the O back where it should be. Carson doesnt have many years left gotta protect him as we did for Gannon.
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NE has had a horrible defense for years… they just now are starting to get it straightened out (scary). They were still at the top of the league when they were ranked 28th in defense.
Great point about Gannon.. he didn’t become elite until he had an elite line.
January 8th, 2013 at 4:26 pm
alex7 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 4:16 pm
Raiders trade 1st round pick (#3) and 3rd round pick to Arizona for #7 overall and AZ’s 2nd round pick.
Arizona has to be drooling over Luke Joeckel being available now.
Raiders can still nab Dee Milliner, Star, or Jarvis Jones at #7. AZ needs to move ahead of Eagles at #4 for Luke.
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Please forward this to Charlie. The fact we don’t have a 2nd round draft pick makes him predict a 3-5 yr. rebuild.
I like your idea.
January 8th, 2013 at 4:27 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 4:12 pm
But as I say to you guys a TON on this blog, positions are not just interchangeable. An ILB and OLB are different. A blocking TE and pass receiving TE are different. A RT and LT are different. RT is much more of a road grader type of player more designed to help in the run game. Veldheer has played well at LT. He is a more athletic type of guy and fits well over on the left side. Conceivably, you could move him over to the right side and have him flame out, and then have a LT come in and not develop. Now you have a big problem. So, you want to move him back over to the Left side? Isn’t that EXACTLY what the Raiders did with Gallery? Moved him around until he couldn’t play any position?
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I say what he say.
January 8th, 2013 at 4:28 pm
Shows you the character of Rolando, can’t even use his name to get out of a ticket in his home town.
You go to the link on PFT to the local news, and one of the commenters says he saw his Tahoe recently, and his license plate had his name IN it, lol.
Slo-Mania!!!
January 8th, 2013 at 4:29 pm
1638.Gdog Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 4:23 pm
But as I say to you guys a TON on this blog, positions are not just interchangeable. An ILB and OLB are different. A blocking TE and pass receiving TE are different. A RT and LT are different. RT is much more of a road grader type of player more designed to help in the run game. Veldheer has played well at LT. He is a more athletic type of guy and fits well over on the left side. Conceivably, you could move him over to the right side and have him flame out, and then have a LT come in and not develop. Now you have a big problem. So, you want to move him back over to the Left side? Isn’t that EXACTLY what the Raiders did with Gallery? Moved him around until he couldn’t play any position?
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Well look at Oher though. If a person is a good enough player, it shouldn’t matter what side you play on. You adjust. Oher adjusted to the right side perfectly for Balt as a rookie. He took care of the Raiders IIRC. The only reason they moved him back to LT is because their LT retired (I think.)
Veldheer and Joeckel could be bookends for 5+ years.
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You dont move Veldeer you move Joeckel
January 8th, 2013 at 4:29 pm
Hey, Beeech, whaddup?
January 8th, 2013 at 4:30 pm
I am with Bush, moving Veldheer to RT and putting a rookie at LT, gives a very likely scenario that we DOWNGRADE both positions in 2013.
January 8th, 2013 at 4:30 pm
guest123 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 12:59 pm
I don’t hate McFadden, but his shelf life is akin to a couple days away from the expiration date on a gallon of milk. It would be wise to pawn him off on somebody as their reclamation project. Besides if Bush got paid $14 million, what do you think DMC will get if stays healthy and produces 2010 like stats? We can’t afford him if he reaches his upside and we are stuck with zero trade value after the season if he does get hurt because he’s a UFA.
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comments like this just leave puzzled as to what y’all think we’re doing as a football organization.
To say we can’t afford someone if they reach their potential is beyond stupid. You guys need to get a clue you waste soo much time worrying about the financial part of the game you lose all common sense.
Seriously some of y’all need to just chill, because you don’t have a clue what you’re talking about………..period
January 8th, 2013 at 4:31 pm
RoSuckdo just doing what he does bust…er, I mean best.
January 8th, 2013 at 4:31 pm
JFB
what did you think of last year’s 1st round WR prospects? Blackmon and Floyd? Was that a “strong” class?
6′3″ 215 lbs 4.5 speed excellent hands and physical is very similar to both those guys.
January 8th, 2013 at 4:32 pm
Alabama Policer officer: Whats your name.
Rolo McClain: Jamarcus Russell
January 8th, 2013 at 4:32 pm
Dan78 Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 4:32 pm
Alabama Policer officer: Whats your name.
Rolo McClain: Jamarcus Russell
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LOL
January 8th, 2013 at 4:34 pm
Blaine Gabbert, Christian Ponder, and Jake Locker all went top-15 two years ago.
Geno Smith has a better skill set than all three of them.
It’s not any weaker a draft than normal. We just got spoiled by Luck/RGIII in the same year.
January 8th, 2013 at 4:34 pm
tinted windows? cmon man…at least cover up a murder or something like ray ray…then they will sing your praises…
January 8th, 2013 at 4:34 pm
Well it wasn’t much of a gaem last night.
I wanted ND to pull off the upset, but of course I bet on Bama just in case.
Te’o didn’t do anything special, just like the other potential Raider D prospects like Jordan, Moore and Werner.
Joekel looked good of course, but I doubt McK goes OLine with that #3 pick.
January 8th, 2013 at 4:35 pm
geno wants nothing to do with DA…
January 8th, 2013 at 4:39 pm
what did you think of last year’s 1st round WR prospects? Blackmon and Floyd? Was that a “strong” class?
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It wasn’t considered a strong class either, and guys like Rod Streater and TY Hilton emerged as some of the best of the bunch.
Don’t overthink it.
January 8th, 2013 at 4:41 pm
Cowboys fired Rob Ryan
January 8th, 2013 at 4:41 pm
Joeckel will be off the board anyway, draft Moore or trade down, I like the idea of swaping picks with AZ for their 2nd and droping down to 7 so we can draft Warmack then draft Barret jones in the 2nd. That would be a great start to the draft imo.
January 8th, 2013 at 4:43 pm
Reggie’s Hits/Misses 2012 Draft.
#95 Tony Bergstrom OT
at #99 Texans took Ben Jones C who has proven to be a steal.
#129 Miles Burris LB
No missed gems, good selection by reggie
#158 Jack Crawford DE
at #160 Browns took Ryan Miller OT/G. Reggie could’ve taken Ben Jones before and then Ryan Miller instead here.
#168 Juron Criner WR
at #170 Colts took Vick Ballard RB.
at #173 Redskins took Alfred Morris RB.
#189 Christo Bilukidi DT
no missed gems.
#230 Nathan Stupar LB
no missed gems, but couldve taken Vontaze Burfict UDFA who at this spot would’ve been a smarter gamble.
January 8th, 2013 at 4:45 pm
DKnight007 there you are LOL Manti Te’o my ass GTFOH here with that bum I saw him get beasted miss tackles and look just plain garbage out there. His stock just took a major hit, I wouldnt pick him with a 2nd rd pick.
January 8th, 2013 at 4:48 pm
Te’o didnt make ONE play last night ROLMFAO, bring back Ro before we draft that bum.
January 8th, 2013 at 4:49 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 8th, 2013 at 4:12 pm
But as I say to you guys a TON on this blog, positions are not just interchangeable. An ILB and OLB are different. A blocking TE and pass receiving TE are different. A RT and LT are different. RT is much more of a road grader type of player more designed to help in the run game. Veldheer has played well at LT. He is a more athletic type of guy and fits well over on the left side. Conceivably, you could move him over to the right side and have him flame out, and then have a LT come in and not develop. Now you have a big problem. So, you want to move him back over to the Left side? Isn’t that EXACTLY what the Raiders did with Gallery? Moved him around until he couldn’t play any position?
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You are right Oakglen. Both in the case of Veldheer and in the case of Gallery.
January 8th, 2013 at 4:52 pm
Arrested for window tinting?
That’s just ridiculous and stupid.
No wonder people get mad at the cops.
January 8th, 2013 at 4:54 pm
McClain was arrested for giving a false name not for window tinting.
I guess the cop is lucky that McClain wasn’t carrying a gun or he might have got a lot more than a false name.
January 8th, 2013 at 5:09 pm
If he didn’t give a fake name the only thing he would have received was a fix it ticket. I’ve received a window tint ticket 2months ago
January 8th, 2013 at 11:27 pm
It’s clear there are quite a few posters on this blog who have NEVER run or managed anything their entire life. A competent general manager does cut or waive a starting player or coach until they have someone equal or better lined up to replace the guy being eliminated.
A competent GM would also be more proactive in his search for quality coaches and talent.
Reggie Mc appears to be a low budget trash collector. The guy’s the Fred Sanford of NFL GM’s
January 9th, 2013 at 7:17 pm
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