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McClain arrested again

By Steve Corkran
Tuesday, January 8th, 2013 at 4:36 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Embattled Raiders middle linebacker Rolando McClain was arrested in Alabama on Tuesday.
According to WHNT-TV, McClain was pulled over for a window-tint violation. McClain proceeded to give the police officer that pulled him over a false name.
At that point, McClain was arrested. He later posted bond and was released from Decatur City Jail.
This comes on the heels of an incident late in 2011, when McClain was convicted of four misdemeanors, including discharging a firearm. Charges later were dropped when the person that accused McClain of shooting a gun next to his ear decided not to proceed.
Raiders coach Dennis Allen suspended McClain for two games for conduct detrimental to the team in the second half of the 2012 season. McClain was inactive for Oakland’s final three regular-season games.
It’s likely that the Raiders will seek to trade McClain in the near future. If they can’t find any takers, they likely then would release him.
He was the No. 8 pick in the 2010 NFL draft out of Alabama. He has failed to develop into the dominant player the Raiders envisioned.

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  1. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    tinted windows? cmon man…at least cover up a murder or something like ray ray…then they will sing your praises…

  2. realtruraider Says:

    Vic Tafur‏@VicTafur

    “@PGutierrezCSN: Was Rolando’s false name Ron Mexico?!?” >> Manti Te’o. Ba dum bum ching

    —————————————————-

    LMFAO!

  3. DKnight007 Says:

    Well it wasn’t much of a game last night.

    I wanted ND to pull off the upset, but of course I bet on Bama just in case.

    Te’o didn’t do anything special, just like the other potential Raider D prospects like Jordan, Moore and Werner didn’t do anything special either in their Bowl games.

    Joekel looked good of course, but I doubt McK goes OLine with that #3 pick.

  4. realtruraider Says:

    Rob Ryan for LB coach?

  5. alex7 Says:

    Raiders trade 1st round pick (#3) and 3rd round pick to Arizona for #7 overall and AZ’s 2nd round pick.

    Arizona has to be drooling over Luke Joeckel being available now.

    Raiders can still nab Dee Milliner, Star, or Jarvis Jones at #7. AZ needs to move ahead of Eagles at #4 for Luke.

  6. Just Fire Baby Says:

    what did you think of last year’s 1st round WR prospects? Blackmon and Floyd? Was that a “strong” class?

    ***********************

    It wasn’t considered a strong class either, and guys like Rod Streater and TY Hilton emerged as some of the best of the bunch.

    Don’t overthink it.

  7. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I would pay a few bucks to see the name he came up with.

  8. oklahomaRaider18 Says:

    Slolondo is a freaking idiot….really???? Y the false name??

  9. Dan78 Says:

    Have you seen Rolo’s Bumper Sticker
    Vehicles slows down in traffic…

  10. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Y the false name??

    *************************

    Because his real name is not good even in his own hometown.

  11. Dan78 Says:

    Vehicle slows down in traffic…

  12. Just Fire Baby Says:

    One of the commentators on the local news station article, said his Tahoe has personalized plates with his name in it.

    That would be just too……it can’t be, it jus’t can’t.

  13. Gdog Says:

    From Walterfootball (the spam filter keeps eating this link or something)

    “You’re reading that right. Since 1993, there have only been five busts at the offensive tackle position in the top 16 picks of the NFL Draft.

    Now, let’s look at the hit and bust rates for each position (remember, these numbers exclude TBAs because they are neither hits nor busts yet):

    Quarterback Hit Rate: 48.2%
    Defensive Tackle Hit Rate: 46.9%
    Offensive Tackle Hit Rate: 69.2%

    Quarterback Bust Rate: 44.4%
    Defensive Tackle Bust Rate: 46.9%
    Offensive Tackle Bust Rate: 19.2%

    Pretty insane, huh? Offensive tackles chosen in the top 16 hit 69.2 percent of the time and bust on just a 19.2-percent clip.”

    So are there still people pining for a DT over an OT?

  14. Dan78 Says:

    There goes our 7th rd trade pick for him…

  15. ottocrat Says:

    This loser is over.

  16. Dan78 Says:

    Reggie get the overhead projector out of storage…

  17. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I posted the names of the first 3 DT’s taken in every draft going back about 10 year last year (should have saved the research lol), and they were named of guys nobody even heard of.

    Easily the biggest bust position in the draft.

    Star might be great, and he might play 40 average games and be out of the league.

  18. realtruraider Says:

    Jay Glazer‏@JayGlazer

    Cowboys are parting ways with defensive coordinator Rob Ryan. A big change they alluded to!

  19. Dan78 Says:

    Wasnt Glenn Dorsey a cant miss DT prospect.

  20. eastoaklandraider Says:

    1665.eastoaklandraider Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 4:45 pm
    DKnight007 there you are LOL Manti Te’o my ass GTFOH here with that bum I saw him get beasted miss tackles and look just plain garbage out there. His stock just took a major hit, I wouldnt pick him with a 2nd rd pick.

    1666.eastoaklandraider Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 4:48 pm
    Te’o didnt make ONE play last night ROLMFAO, bring back Ro before we draft that bum.

  21. Dan78 Says:

    Cowgirls might end up with Romeo Crennell as DC…

  22. GG Says:

    Reggie’s Hits/Misses 2012 Draft.

    #95 Tony Bergstrom OT
    at #99 Texans took Ben Jones C who has proven to be a steal.

    #129 Miles Burris LB
    No missed gems, good selection by reggie

    #158 Jack Crawford DE
    at #160 Browns took Ryan Miller OT/G. Reggie could’ve taken Ben Jones before and then Ryan Miller instead here.

    #168 Juron Criner WR
    at #170 Colts took Vick Ballard RB.
    at #173 Redskins took Alfred Morris RB.

    #189 Christo Bilukidi DT
    no missed gems.

    #230 Nathan Stupar LB
    no missed gems, but couldve taken Vontaze Burfict UDFA who at this spot would’ve been a smarter gamble.

    This also shows that there aren’t a lot of gems around in mid-late rounds.

    Chance Warmack, Barret Jones, and Kyle Long would be good gets in the early rounds.

  23. eastoaklandraider Says:

    5.alex7 Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 4:39 pm
    Raiders trade 1st round pick (#3) and 3rd round pick to Arizona for #7 overall and AZ’s 2nd round pick.

    Arizona has to be drooling over Luke Joeckel being available now.

    Raiders can still nab Dee Milliner, Star, or Jarvis Jones at #7. AZ needs to move ahead of Eagles at #4 for Luke.
    ——————–

    I like this scenario give s us a chance to draft Warmack and Barret Jones in the 2nd.

  24. Just Fire Baby Says:

    The first 3 DTs in 2008, all 1st rounders, were Glenn Dorsey (flop), Sedrick Ellis(average) and Kentwan Balmer (has already played for 4 different teams).

  25. eastoaklandraider Says:

    19.Dan78 Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 4:49 pm
    Wasnt Glenn Dorsey a cant miss DT prospect.

    —————

    Big time bust.

  26. Dan78 Says:

    Free McClain
    Cut his a$$…

  27. Just Fire Baby Says:

    2007 1st 3 DT’s taken in the top 16:

    Amobi Okoye, Adam Carrker, Justin Harrell

    Yikes!!!!

  28. eastoaklandraider Says:

    TJ Yeldon
    AJ Mccarron
    DJ Fluker
    CJ moseley
    ————-

    That is some weird schit.

  29. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Love wikipedia, in the bylines for all the draft picks on the draft pages, they have things like “All-Pro 2008″ or “traded to Seattle” and Gaines Adams has “deceased”.

    Under Jamarcus it says “draft bust. Lazy. No work ethic”. LOL

    Also Rolando McClain’s page says “On January 27, 2011, a vehicle being driven by Rolando McClain was shot at while McClain was in his hometown of Decatur, Alabama. No one was hurt and police are unsure if the shooter knew that the car belonged to McClain.[24][25] He later fired multiple shots at the police.”

    LMAO

  30. Gdog Says:

    Dan78 Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 4:49 pm

    Wasnt Glenn Dorsey a cant miss DT prospect.

    >>>>>

    No doubt.

  31. eastoaklandraider Says:

    27.Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 4:56 pm
    2007 1st 3 DT’s taken in the top 16:

    Amobi Okoye, Adam Carrker, Justin Harrell

    Yikes!!!!

    —————-

    You think Star falls in this category?

  32. JLofty Says:

    So finding NFL talent is not an easy trade?!? If you beamed to this planet from another and read this blog you’d think it was like picking daisies….

  33. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    bring in rob ryan!

  34. KoolKell Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 4:56 pm

    2007 1st 3 DT’s taken in the top 16:

    Amobi Okoye, Adam Carrker, Justin Harrell

    Yikes!!!!
    —————————–
    Or put another way

    T’eo, average
    Greg Knapp, flop
    Bruce Gradkowski, flop
    Mitt Romney, flop.

    You never know. ;-)

  35. JLofty Says:

    Rob Ryan is neither an OC or a OL nor a ST coach…
    Maybe strength and conditioning??

  36. BOKNOWS Says:

    JLofty Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 5:01 pm
    Rob Ryan is neither an OC or a OL nor a ST coach…
    Maybe strength and conditioning??
    =================================
    Our Linebacker coach got fired too…..

  37. JLofty Says:

    Ahhh, right Bo. I forgot that tidbit…wasn’t Rob our LB coach before becoming DC?

  38. 504 Raider Says:

    Help me out Nation!!!

    I’m searching all over the web to find out who hired Rob Ryan. Can’t find anything. I Thought he’d have something 10 minutes after Jerry fired him.

  39. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    Trade down Draft OLINE Barret Jones, Warmack.

    btw Raiders ex Linebaker coach Johnny holland was on 95.7 the game a lil while ago.. He said Miles burris had a great first season despite playing out of posistion or when where he was used to playing in college.

    he said he plays better to the line of scrimmage and used as a Pass Rusher.

    Yet DA wants him to play MLB??? hmmm

  40. eastoaklandraider Says:

    Rob Ryan had a lot of talent to work with in Dal and failed imo, Ill pass maybe his twin will give him a job.

  41. Just Fire Baby Says:

    You think Star falls in this category?

    ***************************

    Who knows?

    What is his big collegiate moment?

    Dorsey dominated the SEC for two years. Did Star even dominate the Sun Bowl?

  42. Gdog Says:

    eastoaklandraider Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 4:59 pm

    27.Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 4:56 pm
    2007 1st 3 DT’s taken in the top 16:

    Amobi Okoye, Adam Carrker, Justin Harrell

    Yikes!!!!

    —————-

    You think Star falls in this category?

    >>>>>

    Statistically its a 50/50 coin flip.

    An OT is 3.5 times more likely to be a hit rather than a flop.

    I’ll take those odds over 50/50 at a poker table all night long!

  43. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    Rob Ryan is not a good DC.. just has a big mouth that makes him appear more then he is

  44. J Hill Says:

    I’m warming up to accepting a helluva trade offer for Joeckel.

    I like Mingo and Werner at DE enough for me to accept a 2nd rd pick or 2 for our spot.

  45. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I think Joeckel is going #1 overall.

  46. Priesttj12 Says:

    Boy! The crime of all crimes he got busted for window tints and people want to cut him for it. So tyhe next guy we draft and he runs a stop sign we can cut him too. And the next guy gets busted for seatbelt we can cut him too……………laughable.

    I guess you guys have never done a single thing worthy of a traffic ticket…..what a joke!

  47. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    Exactly im not a McClain fan.. but this story is BLAH.. NEXT

  48. Priesttj12 Says:

    if we draft Joeckel he better not spit on the sidewalk or we’ll cut his ass.

  49. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I guess you guys have never done a single thing worthy of a traffic ticket…..what a joke!

    ******************************************

    He got ARRESTED!!!

    No, I have never been arrested before.

  50. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    We dont need Joeckel. we need Interior OL.

    Veldhere is more then fine .. He handles everything that is thrown at him and passes all the test.

    Its just Joeckel comes from a bigger school? what makes u think he will be better then Veldehere?

  51. RaiderDuck Says:

    Realtruraider Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 4:39 pm
    Rob Ryan for LB coach?

    ===========================================

    Exactly what I was thinking…

  52. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Again, Veldheer at RT and a rookie at LT, more than likely DOWNGRADES both positions in 2013.

  53. Whoknows Says:

    McClain = Crossposter

  54. J Hill Says:

    I think it’s more of everything prior to today Priest.

    Not like they are saying OK, NOW I’m on board with cutting 55.

    They’ve BEEN saying cut him.

  55. DutchRaider77 Says:

    46.Priesttj12 Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 5:12 pm
    Boy! The crime of all crimes he got busted for window tints and people want to cut him for it. So tyhe next guy we draft and he runs a stop sign we can cut him too. And the next guy gets busted for seatbelt we can cut him too……………laughable.

    I guess you guys have never done a single thing worthy of a traffic ticket…..what a joke!

    ____________________________________________________
    C’Mon, I think you are missing the point, he got pulled over a gave a false name? Why did he give a false name? He turned a simple traffic ticket into an arrest! I hope there is more to the story…

  56. mikeschoice Says:

    idiot stupid enough to turn a basic ticket in to an arrest lying to police who have a computer loaded in thier car……he deserves to go to jail!

  57. J Hill Says:

    We are not getting a good RT in rd 3.

  58. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    And while im at it.. What makes everyone want Star louteli so much? Is it because everyone think he will be the next haloi ngata? Guess what.. he is not even close to Ngata.

    Scares me with these picks.. like Glen Dorsey, Nick Fairley, Gerald McCoy, Sedrick Ellis, Gerald Warren etc

  59. J Hill Says:

    Rob Ryan for LB coach?

    —————————————-

    Nope!

    NO retreads!

  60. Priesttj12 Says:

    If you spend a day reading some of the ridiculous stuff in here I wonder how in hell you guys expect to ever field and NFL team.

    Young guys make a lot of mistakes especially in life. You guys want to cut or trade players fopr reaching their potential because they may command a top salary. You want all-pro players at PS prices. You want players who never make mistakes eventhough most of you do things 10x’s worse.

    You want a SB all-pro calibre player at every position and the GM he better be ablke to predict the future of every draft choice or he’s an absolute idiot. Can’t miss players for every pick. Then they make no mistakes and play for dirt cheap………..lol

    Some of you should really read the stuff you say and make sure it even makes sense to you.

    Really!

  61. 504 Raider Says:

    50.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 5:17 pm
    We dont need Joeckel. we need Interior OL.

    Veldhere is more then fine .. He handles everything that is thrown at him and passes all the test.

    Its just Joeckel comes from a bigger school? what makes u think he will be better then Veldehere?

    ————————————————————————————————————–

    I would have agreed with you two nights ago. But at 35-0 in last nights game I hit the Tivo list and watched the Falcons game again. John Abraham absolutely abused Veldheer. Made Veldheer look like Kenny George (bball player from UNC Ashville). All I vision was Joeckel on the left side and Veldheer on the right. Especially since Aaron Murray staying in school.

  62. DutchRaider77 Says:

    58.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 5:22 pm
    And while im at it.. What makes everyone want Star louteli so much? Is it because everyone think he will be the next haloi ngata? Guess what.. he is not even close to Ngata.

    Scares me with these picks.. like Glen Dorsey, Nick Fairley, Gerald McCoy, Sedrick Ellis, Gerald Warren etc

    _____________________________________________________

    True, but that is like the Lions saying they shouldn’t have drafted Calvin Johnson, b/c Charles Rogers and Mike Williams were busts…

  63. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    Not but u could see the production with Calvin Johnson and had the H W S.

    LT is a high risk at number 3. For a team thats rebuilding u need to somewhat of a “safe” pick. Joeckel would be fine.

    I’d really like if they traded down and took a OL.. and pass rusher

  64. 504 Raider Says:

    Everytime someone brings up Star Loutoulei name they always mention Ngata or Suh. Fact is they probably can’t name a third standout top 10 DT pick in recent memory.

  65. RaiderDuck Says:

    And Star is a two-time all Pac-12 first teamer, which means he dominated his level of competition (unlike, say, Dontari Poe last year). IF Reggie thinks he can be a dominating NT, then take him.

  66. RaiderDuck Says:

    504 Raider Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 5:27 pm
    Everytime someone brings up Star Loutoulei name they always mention Ngata or Suh. Fact is they probably can’t name a third standout top 10 DT pick in recent memory.

    ==========================================

    Warren Sapp? Cortez Kennedy?

  67. Just Fire Baby Says:

    John Abraham absolutely abused Veldheer.

    ***************************

    I am not convinced that when Abraham is on his game, Anthony Munoz could block him better yet some dude named Joeckel.

    Great D-lineman kick great O-lineman’s azz all the time. It is like great pitching in baseball.

  68. Priesttj12 Says:

    This entire board was going crazy over the big fat ass from Bama a couple of years ago. Most of the guys you guys go gaga over end up being fat ass bust. The thing is nobody brings that stuff up.

    McClain was one of the most requested players of that draft in here. Now read those same people and they want another guy just like him in Te’o.

    I’m not at all saying thesse guys wont be great players it’s just most of the players you guys go crazy over end up crap. But no one aint gonna fess up to it I gaurantee that.

  69. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    Actually im rolling with Reggie .. whatever he think is best is fine. I didnt know who he would have taken last year with his 1st pick.

    but it was rumored to be David DeCastro.. or even Courtney Upshaw

  70. J Hill Says:

    I like Star because he is one of the consensus top 3 players on the board at a position we need IF we go to the 3-4.

    Personally, never seen him play. Just going off reports.

    The past results of 1st rd NTs does concern me.

    I

  71. jraider Says:

    I dont blame Reggie at all. He hasnt had nearly enough time to make up for years of back picks from AD.
    Exhibit A.

    In Reggie we trust

  72. Just Fire Baby Says:

    The answer to beat great pitching in baseball is try to get as many hitters as possible.

    You get BETTER PITCHERS.

    We need pass rushers, to match the other pass rushers.

    We gave up the 5th fewest sacks last year, 4th fewest QB hits. Numbers were even better per pass attempt in the NFL.

    Same top 5 finishes in 2010. The only team in the NFL besides the Patriots and Saints to finish top 5 in both categories in 2 of the 3 years.

    We have an ELITE pass blocking team.

  73. Priesttj12 Says:

    J Hill Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 5:20 pm
    I think it’s more of everything prior to today Priest.

    Not like they are saying OK, NOW I’m on board with cutting 55.

    They’ve BEEN saying cut him.
    ***********************************
    I know Jhill, it’s their solution for everything……CUT HIM !!………..lol

    If that were the right solution all the time, you couldn’t field a team.

  74. Just Fire Baby Says:

    But no one aint gonna fess up to it I gaurantee that.

    **************************

    And you are?

    You told me Jonathan Baldwin was the best player in the draft 2 years ago.

  75. jraider Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 5:32 pm
    The answer to beat great pitching in baseball is try to get as many hitters as possible.

    You get BETTER PITCHERS.

    We need pass rushers, to match the other pass rushers.

    We gave up the 5th fewest sacks last year, 4th fewest QB hits. Numbers were even better per pass attempt in the NFL.

    Same top 5 finishes in 2010. The only team in the NFL besides the Patriots and Saints to finish top 5 in both categories in 2 of the 3 years.

    We have an ELITE pass blocking team.

    ____________________________________________

    or is it that our run defense it so bad, other teams dont bother passing?

  76. Just Fire Baby Says:

    We finish 2010 5th in sacks, 2012 2nd in QB hits per pass attempt, and people want us to draft a LT to replace maybe our best performing player, our LT.

    WTF?????

    We need guards, two of them or a guard and new center.

  77. realtruraider Says:

    Tim MacMahon‏@espn_macmahon

    Rob Ryan confirms he’s fired. “I’ll be out of work for like 5 minutes,” he said.

    ——————————————————

    lol you have to admit he is a funny guy

  78. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    We finish 2010 5th in sacks, 2012 2nd in QB hits per pass attempt, and people want us to draft a LT to replace maybe our best performing player, our LT.

    WTF?????

    We need guards, two of them or a guard and new center.

    ———————-

    Exactly. Drafting an LT makes no sense. Our LT is the a brightspot.. still young. Not his fault he was stuck with that fugazzi ZBS crap

  79. Priesttj12 Says:

    Every position is high risk….

    You hav eto know the player at that position. The draft is a HIGH RISK proposition……….period

    No one knows for sure who will make the transition best. There are way too many variables.

    I’ve been trying to get people in here to see that since my first ever post in here. The draft is a crapshoot at best. The best teams have great programs to plug players in and THAT is what makes it more successful.

    As you can see, the turnover at the HC and GM position is very high because of that very fact. the draft is a CRAPSHOOT………..HC’s and GM’s hang the livelyhoods on 22 year old kids who are just starting out in life and you just don’t know what the hell they will do given the chance……………period

  80. realtruraider Says:

    “I inherited a team that was 31st in the league in defense and made them better,” Ryan told ESPNDallas.com’s Tim MacMahon. “I (expletive) made them a hell of a lot better. I’ll be out of work for like five minutes.”

    ————————————-

    lol

  81. A to Z Raider Says:

    alex7 Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 4:39 pm
    Raiders trade 1st round pick (#3) and 3rd round pick to Arizona for #7 overall and AZ’s 2nd round pick.

    Arizona has to be drooling over Luke Joeckel being available now.

    Raiders can still nab Dee Milliner, Star, or Jarvis Jones at #7. AZ needs to move ahead of Eagles at #4 for Luke.
    *******************************************************

    Please explain the meaning (or logic) of this in laymans terms. Put it simple. Explain the advantage. You seem to be the most grounded and steadiest of the semis, so I will take your explanation in ernest. I am of the slower to digest type.

  82. RaidO Says:

    The Star-Ledger – NJ.com-

    Jets offensive coordinator candidates: Hue Jackson, Norv Turner head the list

  83. Just Fire Baby Says:

    4th in QB hits, behind only Den, NYG, and Saints.

    Elite folks, elite

    http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?seasonType=REG&offensiveStatisticCategory=OFFENSIVE_LINE&d-447263-n=1&d-447263-o=1&d-447263-p=1&d-447263-s=PASSING_QBHIT&tabSeq=2&season=2012&role=TM&Submit=Go&archive=false&conference=null&defensiveStatisticCategory=null&qualified=false

  84. 504 Raider Says:

    66.RaiderDuck Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 5:29 pm
    504 Raider Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 5:27 pm
    Everytime someone brings up Star Loutoulei name they always mention Ngata or Suh. Fact is they probably can’t name a third standout top 10 DT pick in recent memory.

    ==========================================

    Warren Sapp? Cortez Kennedy?

    ————————————————————————————————————–

    C’mon Duck I said “recent” memory. Kennedy in Hall of Fame and Sapp almost there. But you prove my point even more.

  85. hendu Says:

    48. With ya… I understand Rolando is in a bad way with the Raiders, or so it seems. I would hope Reggie looks at his age And hoping that a 3 -4 D may help him settle in.As a former Teamster Steward,its amazing what may wake us up,time and the Right people around You..I get this opinion is not popular, whatever. Raiders!!!!

  86. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    Alright lets be real here. NO B.S ok.

    Who is a better OC Pete Carmichael Jr.

    or

    Hue Jackson? Be real here

    I dont know to much about Pete

  87. J Hill Says:

    JFB,

    One thing you were right about basketball wise was Jamison’s defense.

    He’s literally the worst defender I’ve ever seen.

    FAR worse than Gasoft.

  88. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    Everyone here last year wanted that NT from Washington I forget his name. Some samoan guy. The kid is on Steeler Practice squad ..

    Everyone here wanted JOSH CHAPMAN.. Reggie didnt do it… The kid was IR’d most of the year

  89. 504 Raider Says:

    80.realtruraider Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 5:40 pm
    “I inherited a team that was 31st in the league in defense and made them better,” Ryan told ESPNDallas.com’s Tim MacMahon. “I (expletive) made them a hell of a lot better. I’ll be out of work for like five minutes.”

    ————————————-

    lol
    ————————————————————————————————————–

    That is some funny shyut right there. That mofo said 10 minutes when he was with Raiders.

  90. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    Rob Ryan has never DC’d on a winning team tho

  91. GG Says:

    realtruraider Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 5:38 pm

    Tim MacMahon‏@espn_macmahon

    Rob Ryan confirms he’s fired. “I’ll be out of work for like 5 minutes,” he said.

    ——————————————————

    lol you have to admit he is a funny guy

    —–

    He said the exact same thing when we fired him. Funny but hackneyed, grandpa re-telling same jokes.

  92. J Hill Says:

    That’s the same line he used when Kiffin fired him and when Al fired him.

    I think it’s going to be a little longer this time, Rob-Rob

  93. Priesttj12 Says:

    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 5:44 pm
    Everyone here last year wanted that NT from Washington I forget his name. Some samoan guy. The kid is on Steeler Practice squad ..

    Everyone here wanted JOSH CHAPMAN.. Reggie didnt do it… The kid was IR’d most of the year
    ****************************
    That is my point, NO ONE knows for sure……..no one! The kids name is Alameda Taa’mu and he couldn’t make the transition as fast as he needed to but even that doesn’t mean he wont someday be a pro-bowl player. You just don’t know the variables are endless.

  94. RaidO Says:

    So you got the jets talking Hue Jackson and Norv Turner for OC’s. Every NFL team that fired the HC is doing interviews.

    The Raiders= complete silence

    Probably end up with another crap OC.

  95. Raider O Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 4:44 pm
    One of the commentators on the local news station article, said his Tahoe has personalized plates with his name in it.

    That would be just too……it can’t be, it jus’t can’t.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    LMAO @ McClain.

  96. KoolKell Says:

    When Rob Ryan was working here, guess what? I met him at Safeway. Lol. He was walking from the parking lot into the store. I was headed into the store too.

    I walked up to him and said ” Hi coach, good luck this season”, and shook his hand. He exchanged pleasantries, and I went into the store, he came in, too.

    A few minutes later, he behind me in a aisle and I hear ” Looks like you used to play ball”.
    I turned around, smiling and shaking my head. I said ” Coach you are good aren’t ya” lol.

  97. A to Z Raider Says:

    I’ll be out of work for like 5 minutes.

    - Rob Ryan, after hearing he won’t return as the Cowboys’ defensive coordinator.
    **********************************************

    Has it been 5 minutes yet?

  98. CanuckRaider Says:

    McClain is one stupid piece of work.

  99. Just Fire Baby Says:

    One thing you were right about basketball wise was Jamison’s defense.

    ***********************

    Being that you HATE ALL my hoops takes, he must be really sucking defensively now.

    He’s an old GSW guy, he wasn’t even a good defender when he was 25 and athletic.

  100. CanuckRaider Says:

    #96: You sure Ryan wasn’t talking about going on the “down low” Kell?…Lol.

  101. A to Z Raider Says:

    Bresnahan > Ryan

  102. GG Says:

    If it’s true Pete Carmichael was seen in Oakland, I’m guessing raiders are doing things very secretly.

    I’m just miffed, if we’re waiting to interview a Packers coach, that’s all well and good, but why not interview some candidates in the meantime “just in case” like Norv, Carmichael, and request interviews with select position coaches of other teams.

  103. JLofty Says:

    Priest, I am big enough to admit I wanted Rolando McClain a few years in the draft. He’s been a total disappointment since ‘cept maybe his rookie year.
    I’d cut him some slack with the revolving door of DC’s he’s had but he is tool who shows no good attitude and makes anyone want to root for his success.

  104. Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:

    Priesttj12 Says:
    Boy! The crime of all crimes he got busted for window tints and people want to cut him for it
    =====================================================

    Your reading comprehension explains your take on many things, Priest. Nowhere did it say he got busted for window tints.

  105. A to Z Raider Says:

    GG Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 5:56 pm
    If it’s true Pete Carmichael was seen in Oakland, I’m guessing raiders are doing things very secretly.

    I’m just miffed, if we’re waiting to interview a Packers coach, that’s all well and good, but why not interview some candidates in the meantime “just in case” like Norv, Carmichael, and request interviews with select position coaches of other teams.
    *******************************

    Cuz Reggie don’t roll that way. Beats to his own drum, gut feelings and all.

  106. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Anyone see that Alex Jones-Piers Morgan “debate”.

    Don’t know if Jones knows much about football, but I wouldn’t mind adding him to the staff.

  107. GG Says:

    Someone could make a funny picture of reggie as jaba the hut and allen as princess leia

  108. CanuckRaider Says:

    SloMo’s mug shot from the gun incident said it all…Tush clown.

  109. Raider O Says:

    When Rob Ryan was working here, guess what? I met him at Safeway. Lol
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    LOL

  110. JLofty Says:

    years *ago*

  111. Gdog Says:

    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 5:39 pm

    We finish 2010 5th in sacks, 2012 2nd in QB hits per pass attempt, and people want us to draft a LT to replace maybe our best performing player, our LT.

    WTF?????

    We need guards, two of them or a guard and new center.

    ———————-

    Exactly. Drafting an LT makes no sense. Our LT is the a brightspot.. still young. Not his fault he was stuck with that fugazzi ZBS crap

    >>>>>

    Veldheer stays at LT unless new kid is spectacular enough to replace him (and how can that be a BAD thing?)

    New kid replaces the aging Barnes, more than likely.

    Same thing Balt did with Oher.

    Where do you think premier RT’s come from? RT’s in college usually are the second worst tackle on the team is all. Barnes needs to be replaced sooner or later.. if Joeckel is available we need to take him.

    I will go crazy if we dont.

    If he’s gone, trade down.

  112. Spaz o mat Says:

    Raiders need to hire Rob Ryan as a speaciall asst. to Tarver and Allen. Put the “I” back in “Team”.

  113. BOKNOWS Says:

    JLofty Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 5:03 pm
    Ahhh, right Bo. I forgot that tidbit…wasn’t Rob our LB coach before becoming DC?
    ===========================

    That is a fact my man…..

  114. Just Fire Baby Says:

    In Slo-Mania’s smiling arrest pic, he is wearing skinny jeans with a designer belt with a matching desinger cell phone cover.

    Forgot getting arrested and smiling, I want nothing to do with a MLB in skinny jeans and a matching designer belt and cell phone case.

  115. 504 Raider Says:

    94.RaidO Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 5:51 pm
    So you got the jets talking Hue Jackson and Norv Turner for OC’s. Every NFL team that fired the HC is doing interviews.

    The Raiders= complete silence

    Probably end up with another crap OC.

    ————————————————————————————————————–

    Not exactly silent. Raiders whispered that Saunders is a candidate.

  116. CanuckRaider Says:

    #114: LMAO JFB…Kind of says it all eh?

  117. Spaz o mat Says:

    Rumor has it Rob Ryan wasn’t even out of work for 5 minutes before ‘Dancing with the Stars’ contacted him to be a panel judge. The ‘other’ Hollywood industry has also contacted him, as well as Disneyland. He also has a potential bit part in the third series of the ‘Hobbit’. Numerous high school football teams thruout Texas and Californya have also contacted him. All this with in 5 minutes of his firings.

  118. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Where do you think premier RT’s come from?

    **************************

    I don’t know who is considered a premier RT, but Phil Loadholt is pretty damn good, and he was a collegiate RT.

  119. CanuckRaider Says:

    #115: Don’t know if Saunders wants the heavy workload of an OC but him advising a bright young mind would be great.

  120. CanuckRaider Says:

    #117: That’s two LMAOs in 2 minutes…Not bad.

  121. BOKNOWS Says:

    Priesttj12 Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 5:24 pm
    If you spend a day reading some of the ridiculous stuff in here I wonder how in hell you guys expect to ever field and NFL team.

    Young guys make a lot of mistakes especially in life. You guys want to cut or trade players fopr reaching their potential because they may command a top salary. You want all-pro players at PS prices. You want players who never make mistakes eventhough most of you do things 10x’s worse.

    You want a SB all-pro calibre player at every position and the GM he better be ablke to predict the future of every draft choice or he’s an absolute idiot. Can’t miss players for every pick. Then they make no mistakes and play for dirt cheap………..lol

    Some of you should really read the stuff you say and make sure it even makes sense to you.

    Really!
    ==========================
    Priest…that may be one of the best posts ive read from you yet…..pure unadulterated TRUTH!!

  122. Gdog Says:

    BOKNOWS Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 6:01 pm

    JLofty Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 5:03 pm
    Ahhh, right Bo. I forgot that tidbit…wasn’t Rob our LB coach before becoming DC?
    ===========================

    That is a fact my man…..

    >>>

    Nope.. he was NE’s. He was hired here as DC.

  123. 504 Raider Says:

    Rob was the Pats LB coach before becoming our DC.

  124. Gdog Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 6:05 pm

    Where do you think premier RT’s come from?

    **************************

    I don’t know who is considered a premier RT, but Phil Loadholt is pretty damn good, and he was a collegiate RT.

    >>>>

    Just looked it up. LT at Okl protecting Bradfords blind side.

  125. BOKNOWS Says:

    504 Raider Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 6:08 pm
    Rob was the Pats LB coach before becoming our DC.
    ————————
    That’s right….my bad JLofty…thx 504

  126. RaiderDuck Says:

    504 Raider Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 6:08 pm
    Rob was the Pats LB coach before becoming our DC.

    ========================================

    And he was our third choice that year. Baltimore wouldn’t let us talk to Rex, and Eric Mangini turned us down.

  127. ottocrat Says:

    Damn, The Kansas City Chiefs (AKA The Worst Team in the league) had the highest payroll in 2012 with 120 mil. I know allot of that is deferred, but jeez. BTW, Indy had the lowest @ 68 mil, and they made the playoffs. Their payroll was only 14 mil more than the A’s. Talent comes and goes, front office is EVERYTHING!

  128. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    rob ryan10x > tarver

  129. GG Says:

    Bills new president is going to do a whole moneyball program there now.

  130. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I saw him RT in school and at his Senior Bowl, but yup looked like he played LT in college.

  131. Seymour Bush Says:

    McClain arrested again
    ===================================

    Why is that not a shock. Does anyone know a good baby sitter?

  132. dr_robert Says:

    The green beanie strikes again!

  133. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Good thing Kiko Alonso we’ll be taking Slowlando’s place

  134. JLofty Says:

    Reggie trades down. He strikes me as the anti-Al in the draft room. Spends d@mn near ALL his waking hours pouring over players and scouting reports and WANTS more picks. I doubt we’ll licking up the Bellicheat spewtum (old-overpaid guys) for a while. Reggie gunna find him a WHOLE bunch of Miles Burris’ and Travonte Sessions and Streeters and Jeremy Stewart types…

  135. JLofty Says:

    @129: great then we can pick up Mario Williams for cheap then right?

  136. Gdog Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 6:25 pm

    I saw him RT in school and at his Senior Bowl, but yup looked like he played LT in college.

    >>>

    No prob. Actually the Alabama RT might be an exception to the rule. He might be worth a shot if we trade down far enough. I think I saw him projected in the mid-twenties…

  137. JLofty Says:

    That said I think it’ll take Reggie a while to do this…

  138. Seymour Bush Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 6:26 pm

    The green beanie strikes again!
    ========================================

    We gave this guy how many Millions?? And who is the big loser with his LATEST arrest? Yep, you guessed it: The Raiders! Because if some unsuspecting team would have offered a 5th rounder for this moron, that is probably now off the table. And I will bet fifty bucks that after the Tide won the National Championship, McClain was tooling around somewhere in Alabama honking his horn and when the police came up and asked him what his name was, he panicked and said, “uh, Nick Saban.”

  139. GG Says:

    JLofty Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 6:29 pm

    @129: great then we can pick up Mario Williams for cheap then right?

    —-

    He’s on a hefty new contract there. Probably restructures to stay, or traded. Could accept a smaller contract to accept a trade.

  140. Just Fire Baby Says:

    That RT for ‘Bama is supposedly the emotional leader of the unit.

    That’s what Tirico said on the raido broadcast last night.

  141. raidertbone Says:

    Hello Officer:
    My name is Chevy … Chevy Tahoe.

  142. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    There has to be a clause in his contract…. Dump him like a bad habit

  143. raidertbone Says:

    Bye bye draft pick — we’re just going to have to cut him now. That’s two #1 picks down the drain in 6 years!!

  144. SaintKaufman Says:

    Rolando….Rolando Burgandy! Yeah, that’s it.
    Stay classy d-bag.

    See ya!!!

  145. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    I wouldn’t be mad if our draft went like this

    1)Star Lotulelei DT/NT
    3) Kiko Alonso ILB
    4)Brian Winters OT

  146. sacraiderfan Says:

    So Ro was so embarrassed at his crappy career, he didn’t want to admit who he is? I get it…

  147. Scourge Says:

    sacraiderfan Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 6:44 pm

    So Ro was so embarrassed at his crappy career, he didn’t want to admit who he is? I get it…
    =================================

    Guess he knew the next step was a realty salesperson at Kane.

  148. dr_robert Says:

    Raiders might be able to get out from under his contract due to multiple legal issues.

  149. 1960AutumnWind Says:

    No Rob Ryan! He is the Tommy Kelly of Defensive Coordiators.

  150. dr_robert Says:

    Haven’t there been guys on here (priest) who continue to blame coaching, scheme, and bad “development” for the green Bernie’s poor play?

  151. dr_robert Says:

    Good bet there will be NO coaches or players brought in that are former raiders. No gruden. No Wylie and wiz. No Ryan. No Asomugha.

  152. 1960AutumnWind Says:

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 6:22 pm
    rob ryan10x > tarver

    In what way? Saying dumb things??? Yea they had the #3 defense in 2006 against the pass. Oh thats right no one passed on the Raiders because they did not have to because the offense was epically bad.

  153. RaidO Says:

    GG Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 5:56 pm
    If it’s true Pete Carmichael was seen in Oakland, I’m guessing raiders are doing things very secretly.

    I’m just miffed, if we’re waiting to interview a Packers coach, that’s all well and good, but why not interview some candidates in the meantime “just in case” like Norv, Carmichael, and request interviews with select position coaches of other teams.

    ==============================

    What? Pete Carmichael is the current Offensive Coordinator for the Saints. He is not coming to Oakland for OC. LOL, he is getting interviewed for HC spots.

  154. GG Says:

    Another thing worth looking at is how OCs played our D, and how those same teams played other D’s.

  155. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Damn Lin just shook Metta!!!

    Check those ankles World Peace

  156. GG Says:

    #153…my bad, Carmichael in terms of HC. Norv etc in terms of OC.

  157. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Lin might go for a season high, but yeah Steve Nash makes EVERYONE he plays with better.

    That was one of the stupidest arguments EVER on here.

  158. GG Says:

    As in, maybe Reggie is still inclined to make a HC change. Still going thru evaluation process. You hear Pryor talking up about how liked a coach Allen is, while talking about how liked/great a coach Knapp is, who is already gone, maybe Reggie is still evaluating the staff and players.

  159. Just Fire Baby Says:

    GG loves himself some conspiracy theories.

    DA is not being “Evaluated”, lol.

    Let me guess, if he loses the Senior Bowl is he on the hot seat?

  160. GG Says:

    Allen as HC more a drill sergeant, and oversaw the D mainly.

    Tarver ran the D mostly.

    Knapp ran the O entirely.

    Tarver can still run the D mostly without Allen.
    And whomevers the OC is going to run the O without Allen.

    Could hire Carmichael as HC, Norv as OC, Tarver stays DC. Allen not missed.

  161. HueJax Apologist Says:

    Chuck B had a much better prevent D than Slob Ryan.

  162. HueJax Apologist Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 7:16 pm
    GG loves himself some conspiracy theories.

    DA is not being “Evaluated”, lol.

    Let me guess, if he loses the Senior Bowl is he on the hot seat?
    ****************************************
    If DA loses the Senior Bowl, it will be because he was out coached. As a matter of fact, I’d say it’s already a given.

  163. raidertalk Says:

    ROB RYAN? Are u serious. Thats the dude that had Warren Sapp and Rod Colmen at DT and proceeded to switch the Defense to 3-4.
    The IDIOT moved Sapp to Defensive end, shopped Colmen to Atlanta where he immediately becomes a pro-bowler.

    Talk about trying to fit round pegs in square holes.

    The dude took one of the most talented D’s in the league in Dallas and proceeded to melt it to chit.

    Rob Ryan is the Defensive equal to Gregg Knapp. He has stomach hands–everything he touches turns to chit.

  164. GG Says:

    Al sent soon to be fired coaches to the Senior bowl too. Doesn’t mean anything per se that they’re at the Senior Bowl. Raiders have to prepare for that gig on short notice. Cant if Allen is let go, why Chiefs/Jags didnt get the gigs.

    On the other hand, Allen at Senior Bowl could be also scouting for coaches to hire here.

    There was a quick process of firing Knapp, Hoffman, Pollack, Holland. Then Senior Bowl on short notice. There’s been a long silence of Reggie seemingly doing nothing in terms of interviews. He could be doing an exhaustive evaluation of the entire football operation as he promised he would when week 17 ended.

    I’m not ruling out the possibility of Allen still being evaluated.

  165. HueJax Apologist Says:

    Is DA already prepping for the Senior Bowl with out a OC? Or is Knapp back in the saddle with him for one more fling? But if DA is without a OC, you can take it to the bank that DA is gonna lose. This will be DAs’ “pro bowl” experience, by default.

  166. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    DA is gonna doghouse some seniors this senior bowl…
    Rob ryan never had a defense as bad as tarver…hope he knows chemistry better than defense because he svcked DA aszsz…

  167. Just Fire Baby Says:

    On the other hand, Allen at Senior Bowl could be also scouting for coaches to hire here.

    **********************

    Could be, but my theory is that we will hire an OC around the week of practices, and that guy will be in Mobile, but Saunders will still run the offensive practices for the game.

  168. SR Raider Says:

    No Ryan, no Turner, no Jackson. No retreads we already fired once!

  169. shutdown Says:

    Mr. McClain seems to think he has a charming sense of humor.

    LOSER.

  170. HueJax Apologist Says:

    Reggie has been silent on the OC thing because he has to find one first. He will have to be greener than DA. The lack of qualifications could be tough to find, unless Knapp is re hired.

  171. Just Fire Baby Says:

    At the Senior Bowl, you have to be in a 4-3 base defense with no blitzing, and the offense has to be in I formation, 2 wides.

    There is no real “coaching” and each play book might have 25 plays in it.

    All drills and fundamentals, which is a perfect gig for a 67 year old consultant.

  172. GG Says:

    #164…

    To add to that last line…an exhaustive evaluation end of week 17 would not have been completed as soon as we announced Knapp/etc were fired. How long did it take end of week 17 to the news of Knapp fired? About 3 days? No way reggie wouldve done an exhaustive full evaluation of the staff and players in that time. A whole season of a lot of things to evaluate…lot of film cut ups, lot of data/statistical research (deep stats like JFB posts from that washington post site), looking at the entire scope of the HC’s game-plans for each week.

  173. ESETERIK78 Says:

    raidertalk Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 7:20 pm
    ROB RYAN? Are u serious. Thats the dude that had Warren Sapp and Rod Colmen at DT and proceeded to switch the Defense to 3-4.
    The IDIOT moved Sapp to Defensive end, shopped Colmen to Atlanta where he immediately becomes a pro-bowler.

    Talk about trying to fit round pegs in square holes.

    The dude took one of the most talented D’s in the league in Dallas and proceeded to melt it to chit.

    Rob Ryan is the Defensive equal to Gregg Knapp. He has stomach hands–everything he touches turns to chit.

    ———————————————-

    Let’s say there’s actually an employment application for a coaching job with the Raiders. IMO, the most important question is:

    “Have you or anyone in your family been employed here before”

    If the answer is yes, you are not eligable for employment. Sorry.

    Should’ve never brought back Knapp, and I don’t want to see Rob, Rex, or any other Ryan on our sideline ever again.

  174. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    even pft is saying he is on top of dc list….

  175. HueJax Apologist Says:

    SR Raider Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 7:25 pm
    No Ryan, no Turner, no Jackson. No retreads we already fired once!
    *******************

    And no Knapp, right?

  176. SR Raider Says:

    HueJax Apologist Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 7:26 pm
    SR Raider Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 7:25 pm
    No Ryan, no Turner, no Jackson. No retreads we already fired once!
    *******************

    And no Knapp, right?

    =========

    Was saying the same thing earlier this year. Time to learn this lesson and move on

  177. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    vanilla just like DA loves…

  178. Just Fire Baby Says:

    even pft is saying he is on top of dc list….

    ***************************

    Curious your take on what “Even PFT” means to you.

    PFT is a fun website for the newest news, but those two pinheads rarely are ever right on any of their speculative stuff.

  179. ESETERIK78 Says:

    Rolando doesn’t want to be seen while he’s driving?

    That’s funny, we never see him while the other team’s driving either.

  180. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    theres only two? either way…rob ryan never has had a defense as bad as tarver…4-12…dont forget

  181. Dakota Says:

    Rob fkn Ryan fired.

    Lber coach?

  182. SR Raider Says:

    Would you want someone to know you are a first round bust if they pulled you over? Better to be Ron McXico

  183. manassamauler Says:

    We all know Sharpie boy is coming back.and

  184. jraider Says:

    DA has a free pass this year as he should.

  185. jraider Says:

    Raidertbone Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 6:34 pm
    Hello Officer:
    My name is Chevy … Chevy Tahoe.
    ________________________________________________

    LOL. I can picture it now.

  186. papertiger418 Says:

    Hue Jackson deserves another shot at running an offense, at least. That being said, I wouldn’t be surprised if he opted for that circus with the NYJ. Besides, the DC was someone he wanted to interview, right?

  187. realtruraider Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 7:26 pm
    At the Senior Bowl, you have to be in a 4-3 base defense with no blitzing, and the offense has to be in I formation, 2 wides.

    There is no real “coaching” and each play book might have 25 plays in it.

    All drills and fundamentals, which is a perfect gig for a 67 year old consultant.

    ——————————————————-

    Sounds like Knapp would of ben perfect for it ;)

  188. Gdog Says:

    ESETERIK78 Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 7:26 pm

    “Have you or anyone in your family been employed here before”

    If the answer is yes, you are not eligable for employment. Sorry.

    Should’ve never brought back Knapp, and I don’t want to see Rob, Rex, or any other Ryan on our sideline ever again.

    >>>>

    Huh? There’s a long list of stellar Raider coaches that left and are hot commodities now (Fox, Harbaugh).

    Not to mention bringing Wylie and Uncle Wiz back as line coaches would be a huge step forward again…

  189. manassamauler Says:

    Allen needs to ditch the visor fora raider bandana and hide the Sharpie.least rob Ryan Looks like a raider coach.to bad he can’t coach

  190. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Giving a fake name, don’t he know they run your plates first most of the time (check for warrants;previous run-ins), and know who you are before they ask for your ID?

    What a flipping moron.

  191. Dakota Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 5:16 pm
    I guess you guys have never done a single thing worthy of a traffic ticket…..what a joke!

    ******************************************

    He got ARRESTED!!!

    No, I have never been arrested before.
    ——-

    There goes your street cred.

  192. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    he was embarresed he was coached by DA….happens all the time…

  193. Gdog Says:

    HueJax Apologist Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 7:18 pm

    Chuck B had a much better prevent D than Slob Ryan.

    >>>

    Lol… thats like saying being electrocuted is a better way to die than facing the guillotine!

  194. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    or like saying Tarvers zone defense (20 yards off)

  195. manassamauler Says:

    Come on now all raider fans have felt the handcuffs at least once.

  196. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Rob Ryan once deployed the 0-11 defense, to prevent the team from completing a pass and getting out of bounds.

    What was the result of the play? They completed a pass and got out of bounds.

  197. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Handcuffs yes, booking no.

  198. manassamauler Says:

    Gotta love the prevent win defense.

  199. raidertalk Says:

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 7:26 pm
    even pft is saying he is on top of dc list….
    ——————————————————–
    They are talking about his weight, not talentt

  200. ian85 Says:

    priestt i dont care for u much but post#60 was brilliant

  201. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    tarver once played bartell 15 yards off of a wr….

  202. edward teach Says:

    186.papertiger418 Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 7:40 pm
    Hue Jackson deserves another shot at running an offense, at least. That being said, I wouldn’t be surprised if he opted for that circus with the NYJ. Besides, the DC was someone he wanted to interview, right?

    ********************************************************

    The Jets would have to opt for him, not the other way around.

    That said, he would no doubt jump at the opportunity. Hue loves him some media attention, and with Rexy a little on the vulnerable side, could start the backstabbing for his job right off the bat.

  203. Bob Marley Says:

    Just promote Al Saunders and be done with it, he knows the personnel and should be able to put them in the best position to succeed.

    And JFB, Tom Coughlin is older than Al and Dick Lebeau is 75, don’t worry about the 65 year old Saunder’s age, he can definitely coach the offense for a couple of years and help DA save his job.

  204. ian85 Says:

    everybody knows we need a pass rusher but i say screw it we r FCKD with DA anyway i say trade down somehow if its available and take two o lineman to go along with wiz,veldheer and bergs then take clowney with the first pick next year i have no doubt we will be picking in the top two next year

  205. manassamauler Says:

    Michael Vick is better than john elway….period

  206. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    204…might make sense but it would suck. at least we would have a good oline for a better coach…

  207. manassamauler Says:

    Just draft any Alabama holiness player. Especially the dude that plays center and left tackle.beast

  208. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Say no to Medicare eligible coaches!!!!

  209. papertiger418 Says:

    I say that we honor Al’s memory by drafting the fastest player available at #3, preferably a DB.

  210. Bob Marley Says:

    Good night people.

  211. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    speed kills…good coaches know that.

  212. manassamauler Says:

    Alabama oline player.fuking phone

  213. DJ Johnny Says:

    Don Shula for OC.

  214. KoolKell Says:

    Alabama is a physical team on both sides of the ball.

  215. HayesDaze37 Says:

    It’s a great off-season to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!

    I have to pay attention to the Playoffs like one pays attention to a festering sore…and hope that somebody has the cure for Denver.

    Norv Turner?? Better than Knapp, no doubt. But why bring in another old Coordinator when we’ve already got an old (yet competent) Coordinator on staff? Bring in somebody younger/fresher, or give Saunders the job and be done with it.

  216. HayesDaze37 Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 8:09 pm
    Alabama is a physical team on both sides of the ball.

    ————

    Wow, Kell2 — With such astute observations like that, people might start to believe you’re the real KK.

  217. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Pep Hamilton for OC or Joe Lombardi as OC..

  218. Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:

    I just realized Romac got arrested on purpose so Raiders will get zero trade value for him. Won’t really lower what another team would pay him. Only question is what Goodall will do. And doesn’t goodall still have the option to sanction Romac for the charge that was dropped? That might put a kink in my theory.

  219. DJ Johnny Says:

    There are 31 other teams trying very hard to get to the same place we are, and all of them have very smart people who are making decisions.

    The OCO is a legendary stadium imo, but it’s only hard core, nostalgic Raider fans that probably feel that way anymore.

    The fact the Raiders are still playing there is like the Falcons still playing at Fulton Co. Stadium, or the Vikings playing at Metroplitan Stadium.

    The Bears are still playing at Soldier Field but it’s been refurbished, just like Lambeau where the Pack have their hall of fame located and have updated it nicely.

    I heard there was going to be some big meeting today with superintendants or something in regard to the OCO lease? Anyone hear what resulted…if anything?

  220. ian85 Says:

    206 it would def suck but atleast our o line would be the tits might as well have something we can hang our hats on next year and for the future

  221. KoolKell Says:

    HayesDaze37 Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 8:39 pm
    KoolKell Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 8:09 pm
    Alabama is a physical team on both sides of the ball.

    ————

    Wow, Kell2 — With such astute observations like that, people might start to believe you’re the real KK.
    ——————————-
    As opposed to the side to side BS the Raiders were running last year, ok? You get the point now, genius?

  222. raidertalk Says:

    Haloti Ngata, and Vince Wilfork, great DTs taken in the First Round

  223. HueJax Apologist Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 8:44 pm
    There are 31 other teams trying very hard to get to the same place we are, and all of them have very smart people who are making decisions.
    **********************************************
    You might want to re phrase that.

  224. HayesDaze37 Says:

    Priesttj12 Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 5:12 pm
    Boy! The crime of all crimes he got busted for window tints and people want to cut him for it. So tyhe next guy we draft and he runs a stop sign we can cut him too. And the next guy gets busted for seatbelt we can cut him too……………laughable.

    I guess you guys have never done a single thing worthy of a traffic ticket…..what a joke!

    ———————————-

    Calm down a little there, BHP — The guy was going to get a traffic ticket — probably a warning at that — and he chose to do the wrong thing, resulting in arrest and further embarrassment, for him and the Raiders.

    How many times has McClain CHOSEN to do the wrong thing in the past 2-years (out of, and in, the locker room)? He is (was?) one of the Team’s highest-paid guys, in one of its most important positions… even entrusted enough to be a play-calling captain on the field.

    McClain’s too stupid to put his career first, and yet we’re supposed to support it and him while he pi$$es it all away…getting the Raiders the kind of press we definitely do not want?

    Priest — You (and the Raiders) need to know when to let McClain go. It should’ve already happened.

  225. Chris in NY Says:

    Glad to see so many joining the Luke Joeckel bandwagon.

    That’s far and away my choice for our first-round pick. The more I think about it though, the more I expect he’ll go 1 or 2. Guess we’ll see.

    If Joeckel is gone I’d def trade down. If that’s not an option, Star Lotulelei.

  226. HayesDaze37 Says:

    Kell2 — Your post mentioned nothing of the Raiders…just Alabama. A little context might’ve helped.

    Thanks for the compliment.

  227. oklahomaRaider18 Says:

    Trade Rolando to Dallas…let em become Jerry’s problem.

  228. Raider E Says:

    Rolando reminds me of an old partna of mine who on a champagne run on New years eve, with ladies waiting at home, decides stealing a bag of Doritos off of one of those front of the store outside displays was a good idea.

    Only difference, I didnt bail his dumbass out. I went home and partied.

  229. Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:

    oklahomaRaider18 Says:
    Trade Rolando to Dallas…let em become Jerry’s problem
    ======================================================

    Closer to home.

  230. redshirt Says:

    LOL that’s all? Who cares. I’m not saying I condone going around causing trouble and getting arrested, but window tinting is rampant here in Cali and providing a false name is somewhat understandable from someone already in the media spotlight. Was it stupid? Yes. Is McClain a smart man? No. So, I get it. And, I think this is once again a case where the media makes a bigger deal out of something than it needs to be.

  231. HayesDaze37 Says:

    Rob Ryan?? He’s a waste as a Coordinator, just as his brother is (and his father was) a failure as a Head Coach.

    He might be unemployed for “like, 5-minutes” — but he won’t be getting another NFL D-Coordinator’s job any time soon.

    What the Ryan boys are good at is…being Ryan blowhards. Buddy peaked as a Coordinator, and both his boys got promoted beyond their abilities as motivators and teachers. It only took 2-decades to figure it out…but the Ryan brothers are nothing more than average NFL coaches, if that.

    No Ryan re-re-retreads in Oakland!

  232. The Big Banana Says:

    Lol @ McLame. False name? Really? For tinted windows? And you thought that would fly? Smh

  233. Chris in NY Says:

    Nobody is trading for McClain. End of story.
    And he’s not coming back either.

  234. Seymour Bush Says:

    Fellas, maybe we are all wrong on this. Maybe McClain told the cop his name was Slo-londo McLame like we all call him…..

  235. Scourge Says:

    Mebbe the cop is a Raider fan.

  236. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Our O-Line should look like this next year

    Veldheer,C.Warmack,Wiz,Bergstrom, B.Winters

  237. manassamauler Says:

    Trade the buster mcidiot for some Johnny walker and celebrate

  238. Raider E Says:

    I didn’t even see Bergstrom until game 17, and he was roatating with Lucas Nix.

    If that isn’t enough? From my vantage point Nix played better.

  239. HueJax Apologist Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 9:32 pm
    Fellas, maybe we are all wrong on this. Maybe McClain told the cop his name was Slo-londo McLame like we all call him…..
    ************************************

    Maybe he was drunk and stoned and as high as a kite and forgot his name so he just made one up. Nuthin wrong with that. Cept he was driving.

  240. manassamauler Says:

    2013 raiders record 2-14.questions?

  241. mikeschoice Says:

    Where’s mystic?…
    Licking RG3’s ballsack before he goes to surgery.

  242. HueJax Apologist Says:

    Maybe he was so snockered out of his gourd he really thought he was saying his name but said instead ‘now com’on in and sit on big daddy’s lap’, or something like that.

  243. mikeschoice Says:

    Oh that’s right it’s the white coaches fault he got hurt… Conspiracy!

  244. HueJax Apologist Says:

    manassamauler Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 9:44 pm
    2013 raiders record 2-14.questions?
    ****************

    Nope. Not a one. But you are being generous.

  245. Seymour Bush Says:

    When the details of McLames latest arrest come out I’m sure it will be mind bogglingly stupid. So, here is McLame, driving a 2012 cream Cadillac Esplanade with opaque windows and BAMA-R8DR plates honking the horn around Decatur Alabama after the Tide win the championship. And the same cop that arrested him for the shooting incident is the one who pulls him over. And then knowing it is the same cop, McLame tries to pass himself off as Jamarcus Russell. Even tho Russell went to LSU.

  246. KoolKell Says:

    Mikeschoice Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 9:50 pm

    Oh that’s right it’s the white coaches fault he got hurt… Conspiracy!
    ————————-
    You poor bastard, you’ve been sooooooooo persecuted. :-(

  247. Seymour Bush Says:

    mikeschoice Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 9:49 pm

    Where’s mystic?…
    Licking RG3’s ballsack before he goes to surgery.
    =========================================

    Probably. I was wondering the same thing. After a few of us told him the read/pistol offense would put your franchise Q at too much risk in the pro game, he vehemently disagreed. So, maybe he is donating his left ACL to Griffin III.

  248. HueJax Apologist Says:

    Man, McClain is gonna give the Raiders a bad name if he keeps getting arrested.

  249. DJ Johnny Says:

    HueJax Apologist Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 8:52 pm
    DJ Johnny Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 8:44 pm
    There are 31 other teams trying very hard to get to the same place we are, and all of them have very smart people who are making decisions.
    **********************************************
    You might want to re phrase that.

    I guess I mean in general. Everybody wants the same thing…the Lombardi. There’s some smart guys in management positions drafting the right players and acquiring the right free agents and getting the most talented coaches.

    My point is the Raiders have to be that much smarter if we wanna get back to the top.

    Do we have the right people in the right places?

    There was a reason we had one of the most incredible runs in sports history from around 1967-1984…countless division titles 4 Super Bowl appearances which included 3 SB titles in a 7 yr. span coming AFTER years of dominance but never getting over the hump.

    There was a time when Raiders had the best winning % of any organization in the four major sports.

    What was the difference between us and the rest of the league back then? Al Davis…who was football genius in his own right and smart enough to surround himself with other smart people who knew what they were doing.

    For whatever reason the edge that Al Davis had over the rest of the league was lost shortly after that incredible run, and there’s been a void ever since.

    We need someone to fill that void. Smart people who know what they’re doing to compete with the other 31 who want the same thing we do.

    Does anyone feel we have THOSE PEOPLE in place right now?

  250. HueJax Apologist Says:

    If HueJax were here, he’d slap McClain on the wrists and let him play ball.. No nutcracken, no anal punch, no nothin. Just Play Ball!

  251. KoolKell Says:

    Probably. I was wondering the same thing. After a few of us told him the read/pistol offense would put your franchise Q at too much risk in the pro game, he vehemently disagreed. So, maybe he is donating his left ACL to Griffin III.
    ——————————–
    Seymour Bush, you’ve been bootlicking and repeating, and co-signing everything the Raiders have done for the last 10 years. Yet, the Raiders have been losing for the last 10 years.

    That don’t make you no expert, pal. I doubt Mistic is dodging you. smh.

  252. HueJax Apologist Says:

    Does anyone feel we have THOSE PEOPLE in place right now?
    ************************
    Very questionable, very debatable. But I’ve heard it both ways.

  253. Raider guy Says:

    Dj one of the things that happened was free agency. I think it got beyond al.

  254. Raider guy Says:

    So now we need leaders that can play that game of free agency well. It will take time to see what we got there. Al had 50 years. We can give these guys three or four if there is progress being made.

  255. Raider guy Says:

    One year with no draft and a terrible salary cap situation with questionable talent and no depth…that would be too quick and not good…in my opinion.

  256. Seymour Bush Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 10:08 pm

    Probably. I was wondering the same thing. After a few of us told him the read/pistol offense would put your franchise Q at too much risk in the pro game, he vehemently disagreed. So, maybe he is donating his left ACL to Griffin III.
    ——————————–
    Seymour Bush, you’ve been bootlicking and repeating, and co-signing everything the Raiders have done for the last 10 years. Yet, the Raiders have been losing for the last 10 years.

    That don’t make you no expert, pal. I doubt Mistic is dodging you. smh.
    ==========================================

    You have been biching, whining, crying and repeating the same things over and over ad nauseum. You’re a woman aren’t you?

  257. KoolKell Says:

    You have been biching, whining, crying and repeating the same things over and over ad nauseum. You’re a woman aren’t you?
    ———————————–
    No, I’m a longtime Raider fan who grew up when the Raiders were badass. You puzzies could care less about winning.

  258. Seymour Bush Says:

    Real Raider fans don’t whine and cry and bich. Unless they are women.

  259. DJ Johnny Says:

    Raider guy Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 10:12 pm
    So now we need leaders that can play that game of free agency well. It will take time to see what we got there. Al had 50 years. We can give these guys three or four if there is progress being made.

    I hope my post didn’t suggest i’m disrespecting Al, just that whatever edge he had on the rest of the league was lost somewhere in the mid 80’s.

    He still had periods of success and flashes of doing things better than everyone else, but that championship edge was lost; as evidenced by…no championships.

    Green Bay has Lombardi, Chicago has Halas, Pittsburgh has Rooney and Oakland has Al Davis.

    The “edge” is something teams like NE and GB have. Year after year after year.

    Who’s gonna bring the “magic” back. Can it be brought back?

  260. KoolKell Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 10:22 pm

    Real Raider fans don’t whine and cry and bich. Unless they are women.
    ———————-
    You don’t get to say who real fans are, with your limited knowledge.

  261. HueJax Apologist Says:

    Who’s gonna bring the “magic” back. Can it be brought back?
    *********************************
    Gruden

  262. Try Some Reality Says:

    Raider Guy Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 10:11 pm
    Dj one of the things that happened was free agency. I think it got beyond al.

    =======================================

    Yes, that and the salary cap. Al was too generous with mediocre talent. Routt for 10 million per? Javon Walker? Al was easy money to many of these frauds.

  263. ian85 Says:

    im surprised mystic isnt in here making excuses for why everett golson blows arse

  264. Try Some Reality Says:

    “Coach Shanahan looks at me like, ‘Is he OK?’ and I give him the ‘Hi’ sign as in, ‘He’s running around, so I guess he’s OK.’ But I didn’t get to check him out until after the game. It was just a communication problem. Heat of battle. I didn’t get to tell him I didn’t get to examine the knee. Mike Shanahan would never have put him out there at risk just to win a game.”

    ==========================================

    And yet it wasn’t concerning enough to either of you to pull him either. You were absolutely helpless on the sideline and couldn’t reel in your player, is that it? lol. Good ole Shanahan.

  265. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    Lets Say the Raiders have the number 1 pick next year.. Clowney, Johnny Football , Bridgewater.. u think Reggie will somehow mess it up?

    like trade down ??? I dont think that would messing it up

  266. HueJax Apologist Says:

    Reggie needs to trade all his draft picks for cash so he can purchase decent free agents. We suck at drafting anyways. Why would anybody expect that to change. We certainly haven’t upgraded in the scouting or drafting department. Then he could put that cash towards a new stadium. That would put a lot of ass in the seats. Then it wouldn’t matter if we win or not as long as we’re sellin out home games. More ass, more money.

  267. HueJax Apologist Says:

    Reggie and DA have proven nothing positive this year. But they have proven they are green horns trying to figure it out. Hey Reggie: ass = money. Put ass in the seats an the money will come.

  268. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Id love to see Teddy Bridgewater come in next year

  269. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    I want johnny football .. that kid has it. watch. beat bama in there own house too

  270. manassamauler Says:

    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 10:34 pm

    Lets Say the Raiders have the number 1 pick next year.. Clowney, Johnny Football , Bridgewater.. u think Reggie will somehow mess it up?

    like trade down ??? I dont think that would messing it up

    >. RM will trade down for picks. so he can get a bunch of “blue collar” guys who don’t make any plays.

  271. HueJax Apologist Says:

    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 10:34 pm
    Lets Say the Raiders have the number 1 pick next year.. Clowney, Johnny Football , Bridgewater.. u think Reggie will somehow mess it up?

    like trade down ??? I dont think that would messing it up
    **********************

    Lets say they have the #1 pick next year??? Let’s assume it. And yes, I’m sure he’ll trade down, or get cash for it. We’d only choke on a #1 pick.

  272. HueJax Apologist Says:

    Reggie can trade all his picks to Green Bay for their practice squad players.

  273. KoolKell Says:

    HueJax Apologist Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 10:39 pm

    Reggie needs to trade all his draft picks for cash so he can purchase decent free agents. We suck at drafting anyways. Why would anybody expect that to change. We certainly haven’t upgraded in the scouting or drafting department. Then he could put that cash towards a new stadium. That would put a lot of ass in the seats. Then it wouldn’t matter if we win or not as long as we’re sellin out home games. More ass, more money.
    —————————–
    Really, I thought Reggie fired all the Davis scouts?

  274. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    lmao.. or take players then put them in a spot they have never played b4 like burris. Former Linebacker coach Johnny Holland was on the radio today and said burris had a great first season

    But he played in a spot he has never played.. he is better at the line of scrimmage as a pass rusher that he played in college. but we dont run a a 3-4

  275. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Johnny Football takes a lot of hit that’s not to good for your Franchise QB.. Teddy Bridgewater to me is a better prospect

  276. manassamauler Says:

    if joeckel is there at 3 would the Rams trade up? give us their 16th,22nd and a 2nd rounder? dream scenario.

  277. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    Small Johnny football h/l. he is like the road runner can be caught in the SEC with all that speed and he is accurate too

    http://youtu.be/eG7VMdvNPLA

  278. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    Bridgewater would be solid too. Talk about perfect fundamentals and technique already

  279. HueJax Apologist Says:

    Maybe DA coaching the Senior Bowl isn’t a good idea after all. After he exposes himself to all the seniors, they may opt for another year of college for fear of getting drafted by the Raiders.

  280. manassamauler Says:

    RM resigned Branch and called him a “blue collar”guy or whatever. dude NEVER makes any impact plays. not a guy you pay big $$$ for. would be great of OAK could get a FS to QB that secondary.

  281. HueJax Apologist Says:

    Really, I thought Reggie fired all the Davis scouts?
    ****************************
    Exactly. And the new ones are bona fide perhaps? Don’t bet the farm on it.

  282. KoolKell Says:

    The Raiders drafted can’t miss LT Robert Gallery at #2?
    Immediately put him at RT. lol smh. Because they had Barry Sims and he was doing well.

    Ruined him.

  283. HueJax Apologist Says:

    Thats the problem. We draft guys and put them out of position. Or if we do draft position, they can’t play it. Other than Tim Brown, Lechler and Jano.

  284. Random Drug Tester Says:

    you GM-wannabe’s that have never played the game are becoming very annoying to those of us who have played the game on many levels.

    “Dr Rob” is at the head of the list.

    It’s not a game of chess or checkers where a certain strategy will guarantee you any kind of outcome. It’s about people, talent, and character… and as far as drafting or anything goes…it’s a crapshoot.

    You don’t know what will happen with anybody.

  285. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    Thats the problem. We draft guys and put them out of position. Or if we do draft position, they can’t play it. Other than Tim Brown, Lechler and Jano.

    ——————————

    Yep been that way for a while.. but since were at it.. y DHB never play KR, PR.. paying that dude all that money for nothing really.. might as well see if he can KR / PR in preseason.. jeez

  286. manassamauler Says:

    MANZIEL is a beast. would turn the raider franchise around. only knock on him is that he’s small. small QBs WHO run are a nightmare IMO. dude has all of the tools though. raiders could draft #1 overall next year easily. better build the OLINE this year if they plan on doing that.

  287. Random Drug Tester Says:

    Personally…I say trade down as far as possible and take Barrett Brown or whatever his name is from Alabama. The dude can play any Oline position at a high level.

  288. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    2 ACL Tears and 1 LCL Tear already…. Shanarat better keep him in the pocket

  289. KoolKell Says:

    Yet these GM wannabes here who’ve been wrong for the last ten years, call everybody an “idiot” if you don’t agree with them. Smh, Lol.

  290. Random Drug Tester Says:

    What happened to RGIII is no surprise to anybody not named “Mistic”

  291. Random Drug Tester Says:

    even McFadden was trotting out of bounds and he’s not even a QB

  292. manassamauler Says:

    Random Drug Tester Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 10:56 pm

    What happened to RGIII is no surprise to anybody not named “Mistic”

    >> is that’s read option pistol gimmick offense. ruined him. RGIII will be a pocket passer by necessity. good luck with that skins fans.

  293. manassamauler Says:

    Random Drug Tester Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 10:54 pm

    Personally…I say trade down as far as possible and take Barrett Brown or whatever his name is from Alabama. The dude can play any Oline position at a high level.

    >> trade down how far? until all RM drafts are backups? makes no sense. best scenario is if Joeckel is there at 3 and the Rams want to part with their 16,22 picks for it. maybe a 2nd too. THEN RM could fix some things

  294. Random Drug Tester Says:

    “Real” QB’s don’t run away from their protection to get slaughtered by guys twice their size.

    It’s just that simple…you protect your QB with an OLine for a reason.

    Understand yet Mistic?

  295. manassamauler Says:

    Random Drug Tester Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 10:57 pm

    even McFadden was trotting out of bounds and he’s not even a QB

    >> a gust of wind tackles Mcfadden

  296. KoolKell Says:

    You people hate on RG3 to get back at Mistic?

    You can do better people.

  297. manassamauler Says:

    Random Drug Tester Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 11:01 pm

    “Real” QB’s don’t run away from their protection to get slaughtered by guys twice their size.

    It’s just that simple…you protect your QB with an OLine for a reason.

    Understand yet Mistic?

    >. yep it’s not GOOD for OBS. they don’t last when they play running back, its stupid plain and simple, its short sighted.

  298. Random Drug Tester Says:

    manassamauler Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 11:00 pm
    Random Drug Tester Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 10:54 pm

    Personally…I say trade down as far as possible and take Barrett Brown or whatever his name is from Alabama. The dude can play any Oline position at a high level.

    >> trade down how far? until all RM drafts are backups? makes no sense. best scenario is if Joeckel is there at 3 and the Rams want to part with their 16,22 picks for it. maybe a 2nd too. THEN RM could fix some things
    ================================================
    We need tons of players at every position, take the best guys at the low value positions with the extra picks. Find some gems in the 2nd round…we don’t need the “star” player, we should actually draft ALABAMA that would be an upgrade for us.

  299. Random Drug Tester Says:

    we need centres and guards and dt’s and safety’s…you don’t draft them high

  300. Random Drug Tester Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 11:03 pm
    You people hate on RG3 to get back at Mistic?

    You can do better people.
    ===================================
    screw off with your simpleton race-baiting…facts are facts. RGIII is hurt because that’s what happens to QB’s that expose themselves to beatings.

  301. manassamauler Says:

    Random Drug Tester Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 11:05 pm

    manassamauler Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 11:00 pm
    Random Drug Tester Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 10:54 pm

    Personally…I say trade down as far as possible and take Barrett Brown or whatever his name is from Alabama. The dude can play any Oline position at a high level.

    >> trade down how far? until all RM drafts are backups? makes no sense. best scenario is if Joeckel is there at 3 and the Rams want to part with their 16,22 picks for it. maybe a 2nd too. THEN RM could fix some things
    ================================================
    We need tons of players at every position, take the best guys at the low value positions with the extra picks. Find some gems in the 2nd round…we don’t need the “star” player, we should actually draft ALABAMA that would be an upgrade for us.

    >. why give up high a high value pick just to fill roster spots with backups? raider D has nobody, no playmakers. they could theoretically trade down and draft OLINE if they stay in the first round. rams might help with that.

  302. Kirk Says:

    Best player available.

  303. KoolKell Says:

    Random Drug Tester Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 11:08 pm
    KoolKell Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 11:03 pm
    You people hate on RG3 to get back at Mistic?

    You can do better people.
    ===================================
    screw off with your simpleton race-baiting…facts are facts. RGIII is hurt because that’s what happens to QB’s that expose themselves to beatings.
    ——————-
    RG3 has had a great start to his career. Why hate on him?? What has he done that so bothers you, besides being a point of focus of Mistic?

  304. manassamauler Says:

    Random Drug Tester Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 11:07 pm

    we need centres and guards and dt’s and safety’s…you don’t draft them high

    >> do you draft DEs high? how about a corner? rams could be a trade partner. they might want Loeckel of he’s there. hope the queefs don’t take him.

  305. Random Drug Tester Says:

    manassamauler…i personally don’t think anybody is to motivated to trade up this year, wish they were.

    So unfortunately we will probably only have the 3rd pick and the 67th pick instead of a lot in between.

    We need a lot of the top 50 picks to fill our many holes.

  306. manassamauler Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 11:12 pm

    Random Drug Tester Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 11:08 pm
    KoolKell Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 11:03 pm
    You people hate on RG3 to get back at Mistic?

    You can do better people.
    ===================================
    screw off with your simpleton race-baiting…facts are facts. RGIII is hurt because that’s what happens to QB’s that expose themselves to beatings.
    ——————-
    RG3 has had a great start to his career. Why hate on him?? What has he done that so bothers you, besides being a point of focus of Mistic?

    >. you don’t comprehend to well do you? nobody hates on RGIII smart guy. its the gimmick offense that I HATE ON personally. its a QB killer.

  307. KoolKell Says:

    The only injuries to QB’s come on runs?

    Was Peyton Manning scrambling when he got hurt?

  308. manassamauler Says:

    Random Drug Tester Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 11:13 pm

    manassamauler…i personally don’t think anybody is to motivated to trade up this year, wish they were.

    So unfortunately we will probably only have the 3rd pick and the 67th pick instead of a lot in between.

    We need a lot of the top 50 picks to fill our many holes.

    >> you don’t think the Rams consider trading up if Lockel is there at 3? arizona might as well.

  309. Random Drug Tester Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 11:12 pm
    Random Drug Tester Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 11:08 pm
    KoolKell Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 11:03 pm
    You people hate on RG3 to get back at Mistic?

    You can do better people.
    ===================================
    screw off with your simpleton race-baiting…facts are facts. RGIII is hurt because that’s what happens to QB’s that expose themselves to beatings.
    ——————-
    RG3 has had a great start to his career. Why hate on him?? What has he done that so bothers you, besides being a point of focus of Mistic?
    ——————————————-
    again SIMPLETON…I’m not hating on RGIII, I’m just saying that that style of play will not last, and MISTIC is the proponent of this being the “wave of the future” and I say it is not, because it will not stand up to the test of time.

    Nothing racial or RGIII hating related you SIMPLETON.

  310. manassamauler Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 11:14 pm

    The only injuries to QB’s come on runs?

    Was Peyton Manning scrambling when he got hurt?

    >> you think its JUST hits that can injure a QB? how cutting and turning. diving. there are not running backs. read option-pistol is a gimmick offense that will end a QBs career quick. unneeded wear and tear on a QBs knees, ankles and legs.

  311. Random Drug Tester Says:

    unKOOLKELL…Peyton Manning played umpteen years before getting hurt and missing a game.

    Where will Washington be when RGIII can’t play because of multiple injuries to his knee ligaments?

  312. Random Drug Tester Says:

    ….in his first year!!!

  313. Random Drug Tester Says:

    KOOLKELL, go fishing somewher else…you have no racial fight to fight here.

  314. Random Drug Tester Says:

    interesting thoughts Manassa…but i’m outro!

  315. KoolKell Says:

    Manassamauler Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 11:17 pm
    KoolKell Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 11:14 pm

    The only injuries to QB’s come on runs?

    Was Peyton Manning scrambling when he got hurt?

    >> you think its JUST hits that can injure a QB? how cutting and turning. diving. there are not running backs. read option-pistol is a gimmick offense that will end a QBs career quick. unneeded wear and tear on a QBs knees, ankles and legs.
    ————————–
    You don’t know that. That’s not the reason you’re so concerned about RG3.

  316. REALLIONAIREB Says:

    Give me a trade down to get a second…draft a pass rusher wit the 1st pick…draft the center out of bama with that 2nd move wisky back to guard draft a Qb or another pass rusher/linebacker with the 3rd if the honey badger is there in round 4 or we can’t pass on him

    MyRaiderDraftWishList

  317. manassamauler Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 11:23 pm

    Manassamauler Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 11:17 pm
    KoolKell Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 11:14 pm

    The only injuries to QB’s come on runs?

    Was Peyton Manning scrambling when he got hurt?

    >> you think its JUST hits that can injure a QB? how cutting and turning. diving. there are not running backs. read option-pistol is a gimmick offense that will end a QBs career quick. unneeded wear and tear on a QBs knees, ankles and legs.
    ————————–
    You don’t know that. That’s not the reason you’re so concerned about RG3.

    >> yep it’s cuz i dont want see a black guy run around with a rubber football on a field. you got me genius.

  318. KoolKell Says:

    Schit Pryor is 6-5 240 runs like a deer, threw 2 TD, ran for 1 TD.

    And we don’t run no Read Pistol or whatever you geniuses are complaining about.

    No, something else is going on here.

  319. REALLIONAIREB Says:

    .

  320. KoolKell Says:

    >> yep it’s cuz i dont want see a black guy run around with a rubber football on a field. you got me genius.
    ————————
    I know. ;-)

  321. JB Says:

    manassamauler Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 9:44 pm

    2013 raiders record 2-14.questions?
    *******************

    That should put us in the running for the Clowney Bowl.

  322. manassamauler Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 11:29 pm

    Schit Pryor is 6-5 240 runs like a deer, threw 2 TD, ran for 1 TD.

    And we don’t run no Read Pistol or whatever you geniuses are complaining about.

    No, something else is going on here.

    >. be a Man and say it blog warrior. don’t puss out on a blog. say what you feel.

  323. KoolKell Says:

    I always do.

  324. manassamauler Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 11:30 pm

    >> yep it’s cuz i dont want see a black guy run around with a rubber football on a field. you got me genius.
    ————————
    I know. ;-)

    >> damn you have nose right up Pryors hershey highway don’t you? it was one game against a bad team. 2 garabge time TDs. we’ve all see plenty of garbage scores this year. but yeah for a black dude to run around a field with a rubber ball threatens me. you figured it all out.

  325. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    Actually RG3 Didnt get hurt from the Read Option play originally back on Dec 9th game.

    He was just buying time and decided to run for a first down.. he was already some what getting down when Halio Ngata took a big shot on him and got some of his knee. Every team that played Rg3 was giving him hard hits.

    Russell wilson still running that Read Option only he gets down.. They cant even catch Kapernick.

    Pryor wants to run a pro offense.. and chargers tried like mad to sack him.. they couldnt even touch him.. to elusive and he as stiff arm Shaun Phillip taking him down with it.

    6ft 5 240 pounds son. PRYOR!!!

  326. manassamauler Says:

    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 11:34 pm

    Actually RG3 Didnt get hurt from the Read Option play originally back on Dec 9th game.

    He was just buying time and decided to run for a first down.. he was already some what getting down when Halio Ngata took a big shot on him and got some of his knee. Every team that played Rg3 was giving him hard hits.

    Russell wilson still running that Read Option only he gets down.. They cant even catch Kapernick.

    Pryor wants to run a pro offense.. and chargers tried like mad to sack him.. they couldnt even touch him.. to elusive and he as stiff arm Shaun Phillip taking him down with it.

    6ft 5 240 pounds son. PRYOR!!!

    > i already wrote on here that we’ll win the afc west with no problems next year because of the wave of the future. with pryor raiders will be 15-1. for sure man.

  327. REALLIONAIREB Says:

    Say is something really wrong with that Kindle guy the ravens drafted out of Texas couple years ago I see they cut him…

  328. manassamauler Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 11:32 pm

    I always do.

    >. just say what you feel tough guy. can’t you even do that on a blog? call me what you think i am in plain english.

  329. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    U never know.. with a good OC and some guys that could actually block.. Pryor in the RZ i wouldnt be suprised if they f’d around and got 6 wins.. Defense will give up most games tho.. not the qb’s

  330. manassamauler Says:

    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 11:39 pm

    U never know.. with a good OC and some guys that could actually block.. Pryor in the RZ i wouldnt be suprised if they f’d around and got 6 wins.. Defense will give up most games tho.. not the qb’s

    >. you think pryor is the franchise?

  331. lefty12 Says:

    Herm Edwards explained it perfectly today-The position with the shortest career is RB.When you get a franchise QB you want him for at least 10 years.If you let him run like a RB you will shorten his career.Not only will his legs take a beating,but so will his shoulders.As Ken Stabler(you know who he is,right) said-I know a lot of good young running QBs but I don’t know many old running QBs.

  332. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    I didnt say he was.. i jsut said play him in the RZ like DA said they should have been doing.

    A creative OC will get him the ball when they need to. he was 3/3 in the RZ something Raiders struggled with all season. He is an asset to this team. 6ft 5 4.3 athletic guy. OC should use him somehow. Thats all im sayin

  333. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    I wonder if Reggie is gonna follow through with his looking for “high octane OC” we shall see

  334. manassamauler Says:

    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 11:42 pm

    I didnt say he was.. i jsut said play him in the RZ like DA said they should have been doing.

    A creative OC will get him the ball when they need to. he was 3/3 in the RZ something Raiders struggled with all season. He is an asset to this team. 6ft 5 4.3 athletic guy. OC should use him somehow. Thats all im sayin

    >> thats good. he’s got skill but i don’t think the dude can throw for sh*t. just my opinion. RGIII, luck wilson make Pryor passing look ridiculous. Pryor can loft it but thats it from what I’ve seen. all QBs have to be able to throw a football. oh well wave of the future right.

  335. manassamauler Says:

    lefty12 Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 11:42 pm

    Herm Edwards explained it perfectly today-The position with the shortest career is RB.When you get a franchise QB you want him for at least 10 years.If you let him run like a RB you will shorten his career.Not only will his legs take a beating,but so will his shoulders.As Ken Stabler(you know who he is,right) said-I know a lot of good young running QBs but I don’t know many old running QBs.

    >. naw man, herm edwards just doesn’t want black QBs playing thats why he doesn’t like running QBs. oh wait nevermind.

  336. KoolKell Says:

    >> damn you have nose right up Pryors hershey highway don’t you? it was one game against a bad team. 2 garabge time TDs. we’ve all see plenty of garbage scores this year. but yeah for a black dude to run around a field with a rubber ball threatens me. you figured it all out.
    —————————
    One game against a bad team by a QB who hasn’t played since 2010. You need to quit.

  337. manassamauler Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 11:46 pm

    >> damn you have nose right up Pryors hershey highway don’t you? it was one game against a bad team. 2 garabge time TDs. we’ve all see plenty of garbage scores this year. but yeah for a black dude to run around a field with a rubber ball threatens me. you figured it all out.
    —————————
    One game against a bad team by a QB who hasn’t played since 2010. You need to quit.

    >> it was 2 garbage TDs against a bad team on the last day of season. come on man. did you watch that game? Charged dominated… garbage TDs at the end….PERIODhahahah but hey I’m sure raiders will be afc west champs next year right?.. wave of the future….period…

  338. lefty12 Says:

    *good old running QBs

  339. KoolKell Says:

    Lefty12 Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 11:42 pm

    Herm Edwards explained it perfectly today-The position with the shortest career is RB.When you get a franchise QB you want him for at least 10 years.If you let him run like a RB you will shorten his career.Not only will his legs take a beating,but so will his shoulders.As Ken Stabler(you know who he is,right) said-I know a lot of good young running QBs but I don’t know many old running QBs.
    —————————————–
    You say what Herm Edwards said? Can you provide a link so I can get the context?

  340. The Amazing Spiderman Says:

    Russell Wilson’s Day of Reckoning IS LOOMING. The Georgia Dome will prove to be his waterloo.

    No tricks or slight of hand will save the young illusionist this time. A true legacy matchup against the great Matt Ryan will EXPOSE young Mr. Wilson in grand fashion.

    His scheming and tricks have worked well up to this point by fooling opposing defenses with his insidious devices, that have been fomented and encouraged by a hapless clown named Pete Carroll. ‘Carroll the Clown’ is an apt term to describe the devious mastermind behind this circus we’ve witnessed thus far.

    Matty Ice will provide the antidote to the poison that has spread.

    No more tricks Mr. Wilson. The circus is over and the clowns have gone back to their tents.

    The Ice Man cometh young lad and a tired nation awaits the closing of the curtain on this circus of foolishness.

  341. manassamauler Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 11:50 pm

    Lefty12 Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 11:42 pm

    Herm Edwards explained it perfectly today-The position with the shortest career is RB.When you get a franchise QB you want him for at least 10 years.If you let him run like a RB you will shorten his career.Not only will his legs take a beating,but so will his shoulders.As Ken Stabler(you know who he is,right) said-I know a lot of good young running QBs but I don’t know many old running QBs.
    —————————————–
    You say what Herm Edwards said? Can you provide a link so I can get the context?

    >> BETRAYED!!! that’s black on black crime as Mcnabb called it….period

  342. KoolKell Says:

    >> it was 2 garbage TDs against a bad team on the last day of season. come on man. did you watch that game? Charged dominated… garbage TDs at the end….PERIODhahahah but hey I’m sure raiders will be afc west champs next year right?.. wave of the future….period…
    ————————–
    I’ve seen the game twice, have it on DVR. did you watch the game? There was no garbage time.

    The “wave of the future” comment just proves you’re hating RG3 because you want to get back at Mistic.

  343. manassamauler Says:

    The Amazing Spiderman Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 11:51 pm

    Russell Wilson’s Day of Reckoning IS LOOMING. The Georgia Dome will prove to be his waterloo.

    No tricks or slight of hand will save the young illusionist this time. A true legacy matchup against the great Matt Ryan will EXPOSE young Mr. Wilson in grand fashion.

    His scheming and tricks have worked well up to this point by fooling opposing defenses with his insidious devices, that have been fomented and encouraged by a hapless clown named Pete Carroll. ‘Carroll the Clown’ is an apt term to describe the devious mastermind behind this circus we’ve witnessed thus far.

    Matty Ice will provide the antidote to the poison that has spread.

    No more tricks Mr. Wilson. The circus is over and the clowns have gone back to their tents.

    The Ice Man cometh young lad and a tired nation awaits the closing of the curtain on this circus of foolishness.

    >. seahawks lost a pass rusher. that’ll hurt. falcons may just win this game then go on to get embarrased by the packers.

  344. KoolKell Says:

    >> BETRAYED!!! that’s black on black crime as Mcnabb called it….period
    —————————-
    You keep portraying yourself as a racist. Btw, do you live near Monticello?

  345. manassamauler Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 11:53 pm

    >> it was 2 garbage TDs against a bad team on the last day of season. come on man. did you watch that game? Charged dominated… garbage TDs at the end….PERIODhahahah but hey I’m sure raiders will be afc west champs next year right?.. wave of the future….period…
    ————————–
    I’ve seen the game twice, have it on DVR. did you watch the game? There was no garbage time.

    The “wave of the future” comment just proves you’re hating RG3 because you want to get back at Mistic.

    > I’m on the wave of the future ride now man. I’m a believer. and stop with the mistic talk, we all know THAT YOU Are mistic crossposting as KK. game over

  346. rediaR Says:

    Random Drug Tester Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 11:05 pm
    manassamauler Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 11:00 pm
    Random Drug Tester Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 10:54 pm

    Personally…I say trade down as far as possible and take Barrett Brown or whatever his name is from Alabama. The dude can play any Oline position at a high level.

    >> trade down how far? until all RM drafts are backups? makes no sense. best scenario is if Joeckel is there at 3 and the Rams want to part with their 16,22 picks for it. maybe a 2nd too. THEN RM could fix some things
    ================================================
    We need tons of players at every position, take the best guys at the low value positions with the extra picks. Find some gems in the 2nd round…we don’t need the “star” player, we should actually draft ALABAMA that would be an upgrade for us
    —————–
    We already have the best Punter-Kicker-Snapper trio though. It doesn’t get much lower value than that. A “star” player is exactly what this team needs. If we got a true stud defensive player in this draft it would instantly make this team leaps and bounds better than it is now or would be after slightly improving the LG and nickle corner. Okay, bad example as corner and guard are our two worst positions. But still. A stud is needed.

  347. lefty12 Says:

    KK,he was on ESPN radio this afternoon,between 4 and 5.I don’t know the name on the show but the ex-Bronco Schlerick(?) is co-host.

  348. manassamauler Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 11:55 pm

    >> BETRAYED!!! that’s black on black crime as Mcnabb called it….period
    —————————-
    You keep portraying yourself as a racist. Btw, do you live near Monticello?

    >> i was just expressing what you were thinking. i live in montana in a little cabin

  349. manassamauler Says:

    We already have the best Punter-Kicker-Snapper trio though. It doesn’t get much lower value than that. A “star” player is exactly what this team needs. If we got a true stud defensive player in this draft it would instantly make this team leaps and bounds better than it is now or would be after slightly improving the LG and nickle corner. Okay, bad example as corner and guard are our two worst positions. But still. A stud is needed.

    >> Raiders do kick footballs well. to bad this isn’t soccer.

  350. KoolKell Says:

    > I’m on the wave of the future ride now man. I’m a believer. and stop with the mistic talk, we all know THAT YOU Are mistic crossposting as KK. game over
    ——————————
    You’re dumb, not that dumb. Lmao. Are you new to this blog?

  351. manassamauler Says:

    Raiders do need a leader on the defense. should be a guy that can make plays too. no leading from the bench.

  352. KoolKell Says:

    >> i was just expressing what you were thinking. i live in montana in a little cabin
    ——————————–
    So really, you need to stfu, and learn something.

  353. manassamauler Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 11:59 pm

    > I’m on the wave of the future ride now man. I’m a believer. and stop with the mistic talk, we all know THAT YOU Are mistic crossposting as KK. game over
    ——————————
    You’re dumb, not that dumb. Lmao. Are you new to this blog?

    >. nope been here a long time, I used to school fakemaddenraider on here. and with the way you always rush to mistics defense it makes you look like HIM crossposting or his wife.seriously let him speak for himself.

  354. KoolKell Says:

    Gnite Gents

  355. manassamauler Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:01 am

    >> i was just expressing what you were thinking. i live in montana in a little cabin
    ——————————–
    So really, you need to stfu, and learn something.

    >> “so really, you need to STFU, and learn something” roughly translated as “you were right” and now I’m gonna cry.

  356. The Amazing Spiderman Says:

    Wilson’s manipulative tactics will not be able to save him on “Legacy Sunday”.

    A nation awaits with baited breath the closure of this circus of tomfoolery and hijinx.

  357. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    So Jake Matthews most likely we’ll be stayin at College Station 1 more year.. Joeckels stock just keeps rising… Someone we’ll want to trade up for him

  358. dcraiderfan Says:

    If the Raiders are though with Rolando, why not give him his walking papers? Who gas violated dark tint windows law! I understand because of the stereotyping y’all folks think about; drugs, guns and murder! Why not for safety first from the media or crazies with guns trying to take what’s yours in the first place! So y’all foks whose hating on small things, get a life worry about the mental ill people who can grab a guns from their parents gun safe or walking around killing people because they look at them wrong! That’s called Profiling and it would never stop!

  359. Raider Hawk Says:

    I’m here to tell you the Seahawks are gonna bust some nuts all over the Falcons. The Falcons are gonna get butt hurt, literally. Hawks gonna drive the ball so far up their fudge tunnel the Falcons may even like it. That’s right. When you can do that to a team, all they do is bend it over and beg for more. When the Hawks ram it home, Atlanta will be smiling with ectasy. Now I’m not one for picking sides, but you gotta admit. Hawks are in heat, and Atlanta ain’t been so hotlanta as of late. They’ve taken that snooze after all the cornholin they layed on all them teams thru out the season. Their passion has gone limp. But the Hawks are playing about as hard as any team is right now. They’ve got the bull by the balls. Slurp it up gents, Hawks gonna be ballin.

  360. Fan Base 425Raider Says:

    dcraiderfan Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 1:40 am
    If the Raiders are though with Rolando, why not give him his walking papers? Who gas violated dark tint windows law! I understand because of the stereotyping y’all folks think about; drugs, guns and murder! Why not for safety first from the media or crazies with guns trying to take what’s yours in the first place! So y’all foks whose hating on small things, get a life worry about the mental ill people who can grab a guns from their parents gun safe or walking around killing people because they look at them wrong! That’s called Profiling and it would never stop!
    ———————————————
    Good point.

  361. Ian65 Says:

    Pekaboo. It’s me. The biggest and brightest blowhard Raider fan with the most resourceful resources for sources of inside information and football acumen and knowledge to the nth. Step right up and ask me what you want. I’m off to the 24 hour all you can eat buffet but I’ll be back. Y’all chill.

  362. antispy3 Says:

    Look; there are two positions of depth in this draft; ironically they face each other quite a bit.

    Offensive tackles & pass rushing hybrid OLB/DE’s.

    With the ratio of busts @ the DT position & the fact the consensus #1 is a DT it makes sense in this talent depleted draft to trade down just a bit, fill some needs & move on.

    Lewen of Michigan & Fisher of Central Michigan are duplicates; tall, angular, agile OT’s with excellent hand punch, aggressive demeanors & fine mirror skills; perfect for LOT.

    I only saw a couple of posts that are reading from the same cup of teal leaves. Trade down to, say, 7th through 14, pick Lewen or Fisher, trade DMAC for a second & fourth, pick up Le Veon Bell of Michigan State with the second round pick ( with Goodson as the change of pace back this would be improve the running back position. Well, @ least potentially stay on the field longer than DMAC. . .), take Margus Hunt of SMU (JJ Watt clone, only taller) in the second or third (will have to manipulate draft picks to do so) & fill positions of need with the other picks.

    The Raiders have to improve on both lines. Bergstrom can almost be penciled in @ the LG. The Raiders coaches seem to like Nix. Long seems to be for the moment a solid second round pick, so he’s an option. He could eventually be a tackle. But a priority should be to get a potentially elite LT & move Veldheer to RT, where his skill set seems more suitable. . .

  363. RaiderRockstar Says:

    The Raiders are moving to a 3-4 defense, finally

    the GM, HC, DC & D-Line coach all have experience with it.

    bringing Rob Ryan in to coach LB’s wouldn’t be a bad idea, because he does too!

    Tommy Kelly will be traded. Tollefson & McClain will be cut.

    Wheeler, Gaither, Seymour, Shaughnessy, Bryant & Carter are all FA’s

    the only “locks” I see under contract heading into next season are Houston & Burris. Plus I think Bryant & Wheeler will be re-signed

  364. oklahomaRaider18 Says:

    I can’t wait to see what Reggie plans to do with this roster, who gets cut, traded, resigned…Im hopeful we can pick up a 2nd rounder and possibly another 3rd if not more. I want players who work hard and are more of a team player instead what about me, me…Heres to being hopeful and getting better everyday! Great Day yo be a Raider!!!

  365. RaiderRockstar Says:

    couldn’t agree more, OK18!

    think we could package Kelly & Ford for a 2nd rounder?

  366. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Also,

    I would be SHOCKED if McFadden, Heyward-Bey, Branch & Huff aren’t on the trade block

    whether or not another team bites and gives up draft picks = another story. We may be stuck with them another year due to cap restraints

  367. neilb Says:

    realtruraider Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 4:38 pm
    Vic Tafur‏@VicTafur

    “@PGutierrezCSN: Was Rolando’s false name Ron Mexico?!?” >> Manti Te’o. Ba dum bum ching

    —————————————————-

    LMFAO!

    ================================================

    Best laugh I’ve had for a long time!

  368. oklahomaRaider18 Says:

    I’d like to keep ahold of Ford unless we can draft the honey badger. Kelly’s a freaking slob, send his ass packing!!!

  369. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I’d like to keep ahold of Ford unless we can draft the honey badger.

    ***

    OK18,

    return guys are dime a dozen. we got Chris Carr undrafted. Donkeys got Trinidin Holliday off waivers after the Texans cut him. Jacoby Jones was a street free agent who signed with the Ravens for next to nothing. Remember Michael Lewis who played for the Saints? he was driving a beer truck before that season he signed with them and had a Pro Bowl calibur year

    re-sign Johnnie Lee Higgins!!

  370. oklahomaRaider18 Says:

    Lol@ JLH…dude got rocked, I would welcome Reggie gutting this whole freaking team, get rid of all the negativity that surrounds the Franchise…somethings gotta change…,

  371. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I would welcome Reggie gutting this whole freaking team

    ***

    thats what Reggie told Hue and BigMac is a man of his word. the process has already begun: of the 53 man roster he inherited, half of those players didn’t make this year’s roster!

    now there are about 10-15 additional players I feel who wont make the upcoming 2013 roster (from the previous regime..Davis/Jackson)

  372. Raider-in-PA Says:

    Its obvious that ol’ Reg is waiting for the Packers season to end to do some plucking of their staff..

  373. Just Fire Baby Says:

    think we could package Kelly & Ford for a 2nd rounder?

    *****************************

    If we package them with a 4th rounder maybe.

    That’s the “wave of the future” with the draft these days, trading a player with a draft pick to move up into a closer pick.

    Like we did with Kirk Morrison.

  374. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Nation!!!
    Did Rolando tell the cop that he was Slolando?

  375. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    THE WORD “ARRESTED”FOLLOWING YOUR NAME IS BAD ENOUGH.BUT WHEN THE WORD “AGAIN” FOLLOWS IT IMMEDIATLY,ITS OVER..TIME TO PART WAYS..

  376. RaidingTexas Says:

    Raider-In-PA Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 5:12 am
    Its obvious that ol’ Reg is waiting for the Packers season to end to do some plucking of their staff..

    ————————————-

    Yeah, I mentioned that possibility awhile back. Seems like a valid reason for the delay.

  377. RaidingTexas Says:

    DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    THE WORD “ARRESTED”FOLLOWING YOUR NAME IS BAD ENOUGH.BUT WHEN THE WORD “AGAIN” FOLLOWS IT IMMEDIATLY,ITS OVER..TIME TO PART WAYS..

    ————————–

    Yessir, DIRT. It was a non-moving violation and he gives a false name? What a jackass.

  378. hwnrdr Says:

    For tint…lol…did he have LCD in his windows???

  379. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I can see giving a false name if you are drunk on the streets or something.

    But behind the wheel of a car registered to him?

    What a tool, the officer knew who he was before he approached the vehicle.

  380. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    IMHO,THE POLICE HAD TO KNOW WHO THEY WERE DEALING WITH B4 THEY PULL’D HIM OVER.DO THEY REALLY PULL “ADULTS” OVER FOR TINTED WINDOWS ?

  381. hwnrdr Says:

    And now reports are that RGIII will be out for 6-8 months…WOW!

  382. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Dirt Lot…rarely! I know some people who have, but only because they limo tinted the front windshield!

  383. Just Fire Baby Says:

    IR’GIII = Greg Oden

  384. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    HEY HWNRDR..THE WHOLE TINTED WINDOW THING IS JUST WEAK IMO.ITS SOMETHING THEY USUALLY ADD ON TO THE RUNNING A RED-LIGHT OR WHAT EVER..

  385. hwnrdr Says:

    DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 6:07 am
    HEY HWNRDR..THE WHOLE TINTED WINDOW THING IS JUST WEAK IMO.ITS SOMETHING THEY USUALLY ADD ON TO THE RUNNING A RED-LIGHT OR WHAT EVER..

    LOL, true!

  386. hwnrdr Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 6:01 am
    IR’GIII = Greg Oden

    LOL, OUCH!!!

  387. RaidingTexas Says:

    DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    HEY HWNRDR..THE WHOLE TINTED WINDOW THING IS JUST WEAK IMO.ITS SOMETHING THEY USUALLY ADD ON TO THE RUNNING A RED-LIGHT OR WHAT EVER..

    ————————————

    He probably doesn’t have fans in the Decatur police department. They know he pistol-whipped that guy and shot that gun but got away with it.

  388. edward teach Says:

    332.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 11:42 pm
    I didnt say he was.. i jsut said play him in the RZ like DA said they should have been doing.

    A creative OC will get him the ball when they need to. he was 3/3 in the RZ something Raiders struggled with all season. He is an asset to this team. 6ft 5 4.3 athletic guy. OC should use him somehow. Thats all im sayin

    ********************************************************

    Completely agree. The kid’s a weapon and should be used. Will he become starter material? We’ll see, but I think it would be a waste for him not to see the field in certain situations. He’d be a problem for the other team in goal line and short yardage, for sure.

  389. guest123 Says:

    Good Morning gents!

  390. hwnrdr Says:

    So Rob Ryan fired by Dallas as well…you think he will join his brother in NY?

  391. guest123 Says:

    I would like to see Rob Ryan return to the Raiders in some capacity. LB coach would be a nice fit. I know there are people who still clown on Ryan, but he’s capable. Dallas fired the wrong guy, the defense was a MASH unit this year. Not Ryan’s fault.

  392. J Hill Says:

    LOL @ IR’GIII

  393. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    GOOD DAY RAIDINGTEXAS.HOW’S THINGS IN THE LONE-STAR STATE ? I JUST THINK THER WAS SOMETHING ELSE INVOLVED.EITHER #55 BROUGHT ATTENTION TO HIMSELF OTHER THAN THE TINTED WINDOWS,OR THE POLICE WERE SAYING “OK,LETS PULL HIM OVER 4 TINTED WINDOWS,U NEVER KNOW WHAT ELSE….”

  394. guest123 Says:

    I read a lot of excuse making for McClain’s arrest. Laughing at the tinted windows. But that’s not what got him arrested. It’s falsifying information to a cop that got him in the back of a squad car. There’s no reason to do that for a simple ticket unless you have something to hide, stupid, arrogant, or a combination of all of the above.

    I think I underestimated just how stupid McClain is. I had heard from Nick Saban just how smart he was. What a great liar Saban is. If he tells you the sky is blue, should doubt him from now on.

  395. hwnrdr Says:

    Possible, Guest! But it was strange how the day before NY fired the OC and the DC. Kinda makes you wonder! Him being a LB coach here will be ok…wasn’t he that in NE before coming here?

  396. r8eray Says:

    Fire Baby, you ready for today’s showdown?

    Don’t pretend like you don’t know what I’m talking about!!

    GO REBELS!!

    ;)

  397. guest123 Says:

    As a DC, Ryan is really overrating himself. Other than 2006 with the Raiders, his entire career as a DC he’s been responsible for bottom tier defenses.

    Year Tm Defense Ranks Rush D Ranks Pass D Ranks
    Yds Pts TkA Att Yds TD Y/A FR Att Yds TD INT Y/A
    2004 OAK 30 31 30 31 22 30 7 25 15 30 27 29 31
    2005 OAK 27 25 29 30 25 25 19 8 9 18 9 32 23
    2006 OAK 3 18 27 32 25 23 12 31 1 1 7 10 5
    2007 OAK 22 26 21 28 31 32 32 27 2 8 4 10 29
    2008 OAK 27 24 17 32 31 28 27 20 5 10 14 10 22
    2009 CLE 31 21 31 28 28 19 29 26 15 29 14 29 26
    2010 CLE 22 13 13 29 27 4 12 20 8 18 24 8 27
    OAK-AVG 22 25 25 31 27 28 19 22 6 13 12 18 22
    CLE-AVG 27 17 22 29 28 12 21 23 12 24 19 19 27

  398. J Hill Says:

    Hwn,

    Mike Brown is somewhere laughing his arrse off.

  399. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I realize that in his first start TP was very good in the red zone, but that whole RZ package things fails more often than not.

    Look at the Jets last year, it completely screwed up everything with the Tebow love, and fans chanting his name (which will happen with Pryor and one bad HALF from Carson) and all that.

    Besides, I think Pryor’s best running skill is in the open field, he is a long-strider and not really a super compact, between the tackles runner.

    You put a guy in for “packages” and guess what, the defense figures out those packages eventually.

  400. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    AGREE GUEST.NO GOOD CAN COME FROM LIE’N TO THE POLICE.HAVE TO WONDER WHAT HIS THOUGHT PROCESS WAS ,IF THERE WAS ANY.IF HE WAS HIDING SOMETHING.THE POLICE WILL FIND IT SOONER OR LATER.MAYBE THERE IS MORE FORTHCOMMING..

  401. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Don’t pretend like you don’t know what I’m talking about!!

    GO REBELS!!

    *****************************

    Let’s Go Lobo’s (clap-clap-clapclapclap)

  402. guest123 Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 6:24 am
    Possible, Guest! But it was strange how the day before NY fired the OC and the DC. Kinda makes you wonder! Him being a LB coach here will be ok…wasn’t he that in NE before coming here?

    ******

    Yep, he was the Pats LB coach from 2000-03. Jets are a mess of a franchise. They fire the GM, but keep the coach, later fire the OC, and the DC basically quit on resigning a deal. He wanted out. That’s a circus anytime the HC stands on his own and everyone around him is waiting to be hired. Not the way to run a franchise.

  403. RaidingTexas Says:

    Cold and rainy here in Tejas, DIRT. How’s life in your neck of the woods?

    Yeah, it’s pretty likely they weren’t just pulling him over because of that. It’s either because of who he is, general profiling, or something else he was doing.

  404. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Unfortunately in this world, there are people who really think they are smarter than everyone else, when they aren’t.

    Slo is one of those dudes. He immediately said the NFL wouldn’t be nothing because he played at ‘Bama. He was a big film guy, but only “his way” he watches film. He made up some story to get out of practice, then played gang-banger in his home town. Gets kicked out of practice and thinks he is going to show everyone up on Facebook.

    Now he lies to the police, probably because he legitimately thought he was going to outsmart the guy.

  405. hwnrdr Says:

    J Hill Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 6:30 am
    Hwn,

    Mike Brown is somewhere laughing his arrse off.

    LOL…I would be too if I was him!

  406. hwnrdr Says:

    Rob Ryan has always said that he be willing to come back here…but I think that was for a HC position, right?

  407. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I don’t get this whole notion that getting a laugh out of RGIII getting hurt or rooting against them is some type of reflection on you as a person.

    I am a Raider fan. The Colts, Seachickens and Skins were all teams worse than us, that improved at QB and now our better than us.

    I am not cool with that. I hope all 3 of them (Luck, Wilson, Bob) blow out their knees playing basketball this offseason.

    It’s just football, it’s not like I am rooting for them to go broke and live by the dumpster.

  408. guest123 Says:

    407. That’s just wrong on so many levels.

    I used to live by the philosophy that I used to have.

    my old motto was:
    “It’s not enough that I succeed, but everyone else around me must fail”.

    I used to think that way, sadly. I wish nothing but the best for even our staunchest rivals. It’s a lot more satisfying defeating your opponent when they are at full strength. Much more honor and glory.

  409. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    Wow, McClain is really melting down.
    Fake name for tinted windows??????
    Seriously????
    Numb nuts.

  410. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    “RIVALRY’S ARE MUCH BETTER WHEN BOTH TEAMS ARE GOOD” JOHN MADDEN

  411. hwnrdr Says:

    And the NFL is always better when the Raiders are good!

  412. guest123 Says:

    I used to live in Alabama. A local cop was a good buddy. He told me they stop cars routinely for window tinting violations. Pretty strict as I recall. They don’t have window tint laws in places like Arizona where the sun is fierce. Usually it’s the out of state tags that get stopped. The window tint places in state don’t bother to install a tint that they know is illegal. Locals know better than to try. Well, most of them anyway.

  413. guest123 Says:

    And the NFL is always better when the Raiders are good!

    ^

    AMEN Brother AMEN!

  414. Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:

    Good Morning Raider Nation!!! It’s a beautiful day to be a Raider fan, isn’t it?

  415. guest123 Says:

    Good Morning Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure

  416. hwnrdr Says:

    Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 6:54 am
    Good Morning Raider Nation!!! It’s a beautiful day to be a Raider fan, isn’t it?

    Good Morning! Beautiful foggy morning!

  417. Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:

    I’m sounding like a broken record here, but not every sunrise is pretty or even great, let alone spectacular. This morning makes three in a row.

  418. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    IF THE COPS STOP PEOPLE ROUTINLY FOR IT,SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE DO IT.SOMETHINGS WRONG HERE.WHY WOULD U DO IT IF U KNOW UR GOING TO GIVE A COP A REASON TO PULL U OVER.DOESNT MAKE SENSE.THATS JUST ME THOUGH..GOOD MORNING BY THE WAY GUEST123 AND EVERYONE..

  419. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 6:54 am
    Good Morning Raider Nation!!! It’s a beautiful day to be a Raider fan, isn’t it?
    —————————————
    It’s a great day?
    Yeah, The guy who was drafted to be the cornerstone of our defense for the next decade gets arrested for giving a cop a fake name for something as rediculous as tinted windows.
    Go Raiders. When will this nightmare end?

  420. Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:

    JFB, I’m still curious about the shell casings in the El Paso sunrise yesterday.

  421. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    Let’s take it back to 2005

    We bring back Norvell, Rob Ryan, and for good measure Randy Moss.

  422. hwnrdr Says:

    Watched the BCS National Championship last night…Te’o whffed on some tackles, but overall, I think it was the OC from Alabama being smart and taking him out of the play. Not saying Reggie should still draft him, but it wasn’t all that bad on his part!

  423. hwnrdr Says:

    Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 7:08 am
    Let’s take it back to 2005

    We bring back Norvell, Rob Ryan, and for good measure Randy Moss.

    LOL…well…

  424. hwnrdr Says:

    Any word on teh Pete Carmichael sighting in Oakland yesterday?

  425. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    again…ryan never had as bac a defense as tarver…never.

  426. guest123 Says:

    DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 6:58 am
    IF THE COPS STOP PEOPLE ROUTINLY FOR IT,SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE DO IT.SOMETHINGS WRONG HERE.WHY WOULD U DO IT IF U KNOW UR GOING TO GIVE A COP A REASON TO PULL U OVER.DOESNT MAKE SENSE.THATS JUST ME THOUGH..GOOD MORNING BY THE WAY GUEST123 AND EVERYONE..

    **********

    Good morning Dirt Lot.

    It’s pretty common for out-of-staters to get pulled over for it. I used to live around a military installation and there’s a lot of people from out of state around with their souped up vehicles. It’s an easy infraction to write up especially toward the end of the month when the quota starts to hit. Cops have quotas you know, don’t believe otherwise. Amongst themselves they know the score. Like I said, locals know better and local tinting shops won’t even try to get past the law. They would be in trouble too if found out.

  427. MikieG Says:

    Well, Looks Like we will get to see what REX really thinks of his brother Rob because they ain’t got no DC in New Yawk now….bet he doesn’t even lob him a call…That’s all you need to know when it comes to Robby Boy..

    Also, this Hubuub about McClain…wouldn’t be a big deal if the MILLIONAIRE didn’t for some inexplicable reason LIE to the police about his IDENTITY..and instead just paid the ticket like thousands of the rest of us do every day here in America. Jesus..What an Idiot..I get a ticket, I say you got me..Pay my fine, and move on with my life and Im only a multi-thousandaire…

    The mentality of these entitled wanabe gangsters with million dollar paycheck athletes never cease’s to amaze me..

  428. Dakota Says:

    McClain is innocent! He just isn’t very good at enunciating his words!

  429. hwnrdr Says:

    What Rolando did yesterday may have just jeopardized Reggie trading him, and maybe he did that on purpose to make Reggie just plain out release him so he can go where he chooses! But Reggie wold be wise to wait til after the Superbowl!

  430. Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    Any word on teh Pete Carmichael sighting in Oakland yesterday?
    =====================================================

    That was interesting. Is purpledrank fairly straight up?

  431. Dakota Says:

    In Alabama it is okay to discharge a gun next to a guys head, that is just a misdemeanor, but if you give a cop a false name they will execute you.

  432. bcz24 Says:

    Window tint tickets are 1. a revenue generator and 2. a reasonable cause to pull you over and determine if there are any other revenue generating violations. MOST cops won’t waste their time with it, unless they have been mandated by the local budget to up the revenue they generate. In NY we have a law that says you must have front license plate, it exists for no other reason than to generate revenue, but it ALSO gives officers probable cause to pull you over. People get pinched on DWI’s all the time because they were stopped for no front plate.

    No for Ro to get nabbed for giving a false name? It just doesn’t add up. He was driving his own vehicle and we are talking about $100 ticket. There HAS to be more to this story. For the record, that is an incredibly stupid thing to get arrested for, ESPECIALLY for a ‘famous’ athlete. They KNEW who he was. It just makes no sense.

    He also claims that they are ‘framing’ him (what, his windows weren’t tinted, but while he was under arrest, the officer tinted them himself?) and that the Alabama police are ‘out to get him’… it begs the question, why the hell does he keep going back?

  433. guest123 Says:

    it begs the question, why the hell does he keep going back?

    ********

    Deep down in his heart, he’s a hood rat from his small time ghetto, and that’s all he’ll ever be. He’ll never escape his upbringing. That environment is paradise to him. There, he’s “tha man”.

  434. Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:

    Hwnrdr, that occured to me last night about Mclain. Get a ticky tack arrest that leaves the Raiders with nothing but doesn’t affect his market value. But doesn’t Goodall still have the authority to penalize Romac on the the previous charge, no matter that it was dropped? Goodall may have been willing to forget about it but now…?

  435. R8drinOK Says:

    Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 7:29 am
    hwnrdr Says:
    Any word on teh Pete Carmichael sighting in Oakland yesterday?
    =====================================================

    That was interesting. Is purpledrank fairly straight up?

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    I hope this is true…a glimmer of hope that DA has a clue.

  436. Charlie Says:

    The McClain incident further validates the fact that he is an immature multi millionaire that has very limited value to the Raiders at this point.
    The types of guys we will be drafting are going to be like Burriss and Bergstrom.

    Another misconception about the old Raiders was that they were comprised of nothing but renegades.
    Nothing could be further form the truth.
    Sure we had some characters like the Tooz, Snake and Freddie who all enjoyed an occasional adult beverage.
    The fact is though those guys were ready to play on Sundays.

    The bedrock of the team were guys like Willie Brown, Upshaw, Shell, Otto, Conners etc. Guys who played football and went home.
    They policed the locker room and kept things under control.
    Coaches raraely needed to get involved.

    Reggie quote:
    “You want the players to doggone take it upon themselves and run it. We’re not at that level.”

    That is where we are headed but it is going to take two really good drafts to get there.

  437. bcz24 Says:

    424.hwnrdr Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 7:11 am
    Any word on teh Pete Carmichael sighting in Oakland yesterday?
    **********************
    I think that was from last year when he was in the running for our HC position. I can’t think there is any reason he would even consider a lateral move from the Saints to Oakland. The Saints would never let him interview for it. In fact, I am pretty sure by NFL rule you CAN’T interview a contracted coach for a lateral move.

  438. Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:

    bcz24 Says:
    For the record, that is an incredibly stupid thing to get arrested for, ESPECIALLY for a ‘famous’ athlete. They KNEW who he was. It just makes no sense.
    ========================================================

    They probably have that stupid smirking arrest photo hanging on their wall and see it every day.

  439. guest123 Says:

    Heard yesterday on Sirius Radio commenting on Carmichael to Oakland as well. Not just one isolated blogger talking about this. Let’s see if there’s fire behind this smoke. I’m not going to dismiss it so quickly.

  440. Raider-in-PA Says:

    the Alabama police are ‘out to get him’… it begs the question, why the hell does he keep going back?
    ———————————
    I guess the nickname ‘Slowlando’ doesnt just refer to his speed (or lackthereof) on the field!

  441. guest123 Says:

    Is the latest mugshot up yet? I wanna see him smirk again.

  442. R8drinOK Says:

    Charlie Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 7:37 am
    The McClain incident further validates the fact that he is an immature multi millionaire that has very limited value to the Raiders at this point.
    The types of guys we will be drafting are going to be like Burriss and Bergstrom.

    Another misconception about the old Raiders was that they were comprised of nothing but renegades.
    Nothing could be further form the truth.
    Sure we had some characters like the Tooz, Snake and Freddie who all enjoyed an occasional adult beverage.
    The fact is though those guys were ready to play on Sundays.

    The bedrock of the team were guys like Willie Brown, Upshaw, Shell, Otto, Conners etc. Guys who played football and went home.
    They policed the locker room and kept things under control.
    Coaches raraely needed to get involved.

    Reggie quote:
    “You want the players to doggone take it upon themselves and run it. We’re not at that level.”

    That is where we are headed but it is going to take two really good drafts to get there.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    That was back when players considered it a ‘privilege’ to play for The Raiders and Al. These guys may have been hell raisers but played their a$$ off on Sunday. Unfortunately times and the NFL culture has changed.

  443. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I used to think that way, sadly. I wish nothing but the best for even our staunchest rivals.

    ***************************

    I definitely believe in the motto to be the best you have to beat the best, but teams will always improve so if the short term is a complete face-first flop by the other 31 teams, I am all for it.

  444. R8drinOK Says:

    guest123 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 7:40 am
    Heard yesterday on Sirius Radio commenting on Carmichael to Oakland as well. Not just one isolated blogger talking about this. Let’s see if there’s fire behind this smoke. I’m not going to dismiss it so quickly.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Great news! Thanks for the update Guest!

  445. Dakota Says:

    Carmichael miffed at the saints for not naming him interim hc? Or even interim interim hc?

    Is that why he might be willing to leave the saints?

  446. Dakota Says:

    http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2013/01/report_contracts_of_new_orlean.html

    Carmichael is a free agent…

  447. Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:

    guest123 Says:
    Is the latest mugshot up yet? I wanna see him smirk again.
    ====================================================

    SandBPride has it. Levi noted he was smart enough not to grin.

  448. Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:

    About Carmichael, Purpledrank said a buddy who works at the Oakland Hilton saw him there. That’s why I asked previously if Purpledrank is fairly reliable.

  449. Charlie Says:

    OK

    Absolutley correct.
    The problem is Mr Davis was living in the past.
    It is the primary reason we had the worst cap issue in NFL history in 2012 and will still pay for into 2014.

    Mr Davis was old school. Pay your players well, treat them well and they will play well on Sundays.

    Unfortunately, degenerates like JR, Routt, McClain, Moss, and overrated types like Seymour, Kelly, Warren, Sapp, Walker, Henderson, Boss etc. etc. simply cashed the paychecks.

    A sad state of affairs that we will correct but it will take a couple more seasons to do it.

  450. Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:

    Is there an Oakland Hilton??

  451. hwnrdr Says:

    I think Carmichael’s contract is up in New Orleans right?

  452. hwnrdr Says:

    Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 7:55 am
    Is there an Oakland Hilton??

    Yes, a few miles from teh airport off of Hegenberger Rd!

  453. guest123 Says:

    “I’m falsely accused of everything,” McClain said before climbing into a white Chevrolet Silverado and driving from the parking lot of City Hall. “It’s corrupt. It’s terrible.”

    *********

    Wonder what McClain is disputing here? That the cops are making up that he falsified his name? Really? In a court of law, the “my word vs a cop’s word” argument doesn’t hold up. I hope he’s not going to try that defense.

  454. hwnrdr Says:

    Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 7:54 am
    About Carmichael, Purpledrank said a buddy who works at the Oakland Hilton saw him there. That’s why I asked previously if Purpledrank is fairly reliable.

    Yeah, that I am not too sure of, but where there is smoke…also, I have been there, you do see a lot of football people running in and out of there!

  455. Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:

    Charlie Says:
    Sure we had some characters like the Tooz, Snake and Freddie who all enjoyed an occasional adult beverage.
    ======================================================

    Only on Sundays. Otherwise, serious imbibing!

  456. Dakota Says:

    I can’t find much info on kromer. Does he run a zone blocking scheme?

  457. Charlie Says:

    Bad info on Carmichael. He is not coming to Oakland as an OC.

    We will be looking at a special assistant somewhere where an OC job means a big promotion.

    Our problems are bigger than changing an OC coordinator and every experienced OC in the league knows it.

    “New Orleans Saints offensive coordinator Pete Carmichael Jr. is reportedly interviewing with the Chicago Bears as they seek a replacement for Lovie Smith. ProFootballTalk.com reported the news Wednesday evening, and a league source confirmed the report to NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune.”

    “Carmichael interviewed for openings with Oakland and Indianapolis last year”.

  458. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I can’t find much info on kromer. Does he run a zone blocking scheme?

    *************************

    Saints are a team that is listed as running a hybrid stretch/PBS system.

    But, they were one of the few teams in the world to give up less sacks and QB hits than us last year.

    Next up, improving our world class kickers!!!

  459. R8drinOK Says:

    Charlie Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 7:54 am
    OK

    Absolutley correct.
    The problem is Mr Davis was living in the past.
    It is the primary reason we had the worst cap issue in NFL history in 2012 and will still pay for into 2014.

    Mr Davis was old school. Pay your players well, treat them well and they will play well on Sundays.

    Unfortunately, degenerates like JR, Routt, McClain, Moss, and overrated types like Seymour, Kelly, Warren, Sapp, Walker, Henderson, Boss etc. etc. simply cashed the paychecks.

    A sad state of affairs that we will correct but it will take a couple more seasons to do it
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Great points Charlie, it always made me sick to see these guys get ever richer and not reward the Raiders and Al with their best play. Absolutely can’t stand Sapp, Moss, Krispy Kreme (JR) and Hall.
    I hope we don’t lose too much of the Raider mystique (what’s left) under Reggie. I know Reggie and DA are trying to change the culture but they are off to a very rocky start. Most of their decisions have been questionable at best.

  460. morilla Says:

    Guest123 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 7:58 am
    “I’m falsely accused of everything,” McClain said before climbing into a white Chevrolet Silverado and driving from the parking lot of City Hall. “It’s corrupt. It’s terrible.”

    *********

    Wonder what McClain is disputing here? That the cops are making up that he falsified his name? Really? In a court of law, the “my word vs a cop’s word” argument doesn’t hold up. I hope he’s not going to try that defense.
    —————-

    One thing that that people have forgotten… Cops don’t ask for your name. They ask you for your license and registration.

    So either Slo didn’t have either or lied saying he didn’t them and then tried to lie and give false info. It’s mind boggling to think he could get away with that.

  461. Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:

    Charlie, You got a better handle on cap issues, etc., and said Al went all out moneywise in the uncapped year(2010?). Now, Cork and JMac say the cap constraints are overrated and Al could always find a way around it, so I was wondering if the massive overspending in 2010 is, in your opinion, why that isn’t true anymore. In other words, did Al dig a hole too deep for even him to get out of without paying the piper as we are now?

  462. Dakota Says:

    The raiders could add the assistant hc title to Carmichael to sweeten the pot.

  463. The_Judge37 Says:

    I said back when he first got suspended, if you want to send a message to other players, cut him immediatly. By dikcing around with him, suspending him and what not, it only backfires and looks bad on the Front office.

    Now he’s happy he’s gone and blown any trade value that he thought the Raiders could have with him.

  464. guest123 Says:

    So either Slo didn’t have either or lied saying he didn’t them and then tried to lie and give false info. It’s mind boggling to think he could get away with that.

    *********

    Right up there with telling your teacher that your dog ate your homework. Even in Alabama, the cops aren’t your typical barney fifes. Gotta be a little smarter than that not to get pinched.

  465. The_Judge37 Says:

    453.guest123 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 7:58 am
    “I’m falsely accused of everything,” McClain said before climbing into a white Chevrolet Silverado and driving from the parking lot of City Hall. “It’s corrupt. It’s terrible.”

    *********

    Wonder what McClain is disputing here? That the cops are making up that he falsified his name? Really? In a court of law, the “my word vs a cop’s word” argument doesn’t hold up. I hope he’s not going to try that defense.
    ————-

    Maybe he did tell them the truth, but the officers would buy it?

    Officer: “Sure Buddy, whatever you say “ROlando”. Now get in the car Slowlando McLame”

  466. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Al’s cap issues are just like our countries deficit issues.

    You can keep kicking the can down the road, and you can probably almost do that forever. But that is not the best way to do things.

    Reggie chose to go off the “fiscal cliff” last year, and we will be massively better off for it in the years ahead.

  467. Dakota Says:

    Thanks for the info jfb.

    Maybe Carmichael and kromer just want to get away from Sean Payton and his drug abuse and bounties, and maybe they are good friends with Dennis Allen and want to hook back up with their bud?

  468. DJ Johnny Says:

    Charlie,

    I’d be interested in your take on Bears situation compared to ours.

    They gave up more for Cutler than we gave up for Palmer, yet Palmer’s stats have proven him to be better over long haul and recently, but they had no # 1’s for 2006 and 2007 as a result, AND if u look at the Bears draft picks since 2003 for instance…ESPECIALLY their # 1 picks…imo it’s WORSE than us. YET here they are competitive every year.

    Someone said “yeah..their defense keeps ‘em in games” to which i respond “EXACTLY”. The question is how is it they have such a good defense when they have had such horrible drafts…and in fact WORSE than ours? Although that is my opinion as far as that goes, but i’m interested in your thoughts.

  469. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 8:16 am
    Al’s cap issues are just like our countries deficit issues.

    You can keep kicking the can down the road, and you can probably almost do that forever. But that is not the best way to do things.

    Reggie chose to go off the “fiscal cliff” last year, and we will be massively better off for it in the years ahead.
    ——————–
    Hopefully we will all still be alive to witness those days.

  470. guest123 Says:

    Reggie chose to go off the “fiscal cliff” last year, and we will be massively better off for it in the years ahead
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Too early to say this for sure. You can’t just go off the cliff and take your poison pill all at once. You still need to generate revenue while you freefall. It’s a delicate balance, not unlike our economy.

  471. The_Judge37 Says:

    Officer: “Get in the car……What the hell are ya doin boy? Out the front and into the back…..Jesus, now what the hell ya doing? Get outta that trunk….. Today son, today!

  472. Moose Says:

    Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 8:41 pm
    I just realized Romac got arrested on purpose so Raiders will get zero trade value for him. Won’t really lower what another team would pay him. Only question is what Goodall will do. And doesn’t goodall still have the option to sanction Romac for the charge that was dropped? That might put a kink in my theory.
    ——
    Yeah he did it on purpose, never had tints when he was doing schit with guns,its his final kick in the teeth for the Raiders..the red-flags should of been out when he had his child in the locker-room and he push the kid in front of cameras,that really showed his true personality, a punk

  473. Just Fire Baby Says:

    You still need to generate revenue while you freefall

    *****************************

    To stay with the analogy here, “generating revenue” would be winning games, correct?

    Yes, we need to do more of that, but it is not like we were some perennial Super Bowl contender, so ripping the band-aid off all at once and going 4-12 isn’t a complete disaster.

    10 and then

  474. DJ Johnny Says:

    McClain probably lied about his name just to avoid ANY type of trouble being associated with him knowing he’s on very thin ice as it is…career wise.

  475. Dakota Says:

    I wonder if rgIII got a cadaver acl and lcl? Hope they didn’t use a slow white dudes parts!

  476. Moose Says:

    Who dosent know him in Decatur,guys a jerk

  477. The_Judge37 Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 8:30 am
    You still need to generate revenue while you freefall

    *****************************

    To stay with the analogy here, “generating revenue” would be winning games, correct?
    ——–

    Not necessarily. We still sold out most games this season. I’m sure most of you still bout Raider gear, especially around Christmas time. Lot more revenue streams now than just Home Games.

  478. bcz24 Says:

    Not necessarily. We still sold out most games this season. I’m sure most of you still bout Raider gear, especially around Christmas time. Lot more revenue streams now than just Home Games.
    *******************
    Ticket sales make up about 1% of the teams revenue.

  479. DJ Johnny Says:

    439.guest123 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 7:40 am
    Heard yesterday on Sirius Radio commenting on Carmichael to Oakland as well. Not just one isolated blogger talking about this. Let’s see if there’s fire behind this smoke. I’m not going to dismiss it so quickly.

    It does seem odd Carmichael would even consider the OC position here if he’s a top HC candidate other places, but it could be the fact he’s worked with DA in the past and they worked really well together. Heck, maybe they are good friends.

  480. The_Judge37 Says:

    Al would’ve been a great owner if he trusted more in a GM and Scouts. Other than that, he was an owner that didn’t care to be in the highest paid category. I doubt Mark will be that way so we’ll see if this money savings trip is for any good reason.

  481. DJ Johnny Says:

    You would think coaches would see Oakland as a good opportunity.

    If you can come to Oakland and win here..it has to be a tremendous career boost.

    Going to GB or a perennial winner shows nothing. The pressure is to maintain and really u can only go down in that kind of situation.

    Look at what Oakland did for Gruden.

  482. Charlie Says:

    Full Disclosure

    The hole that was dug was two fold.

    It was a combination of a lack of draft picks as a result of needing PANIC DEALS(SEYMOUR) to compensate for poor drafting over a decade AND having the highest payroll on any NFL team in 2012 let alone 2010.

    When Reggie took the job:

    As of March 25, 2012, The Oakland Raiders held TWO SELECTIONS in the 2012 NFL Draft (a 5th and 6th round pick), which was just about a month away. The NFL awarded the Raiders three COMPENSATORY PICKS March 26. (A 3rd round 4th round and 5th round pick).

    “In 2010, Al Davis went all out for his football team in an uncapped year and spent the most money in the league at over $150 million in player salaries. That is easily the most money ever spent on a team in the history of the NFL. One thing we know for sure is that Al Davis made his own bed here and whether that is good or bad, he must lie in it. At the other end of the spectrum are the Bengals, who have only $83.5 million in commitments for 2012. The Buccaneers, Titans, Redskins, and Broncos also are under $100 million.”

    We are about FIVE million over the cap in 2013 without even drafting a player.

    “Meanwhile, Oakland is one of 10 teams currently over the salary cap. Oakland is $4.5 million over the cap. It was severely over the cap last season. This year, the Raiders, who will have to address punter Shane Lechler, tight end Brandon Myers and linebacker Philip Wheeler in free agency, will still have to make a lot of tough decisions and will have to tweak some contracts again.”

    The fact is Mr Davis kept kicking the can down the road, then Hue got Palmer making the cap situation worse AND giving up two very high draft picks in 2012 and 2013.

    This is why I have said that it will take 3-5 years to fix this mess and that our problems are much bigger than who our OC is.
    It is also why I say Reggie had NOTHING to do with the mess. His hands were tied when he took the job and I laugh when some on this blog were surprised we had the season we had. ZERO ROSTER DEPTH (due to the aforementioned cap problems AND A BAD ROSTER TO BEGIN WITH) and several injuries were the primary culprits.

    “It’s going to be structured around the personnel part and getting good players,” Madden said. “It’s all about players. We can talk about this thing and that thing and having good cheerleaders and all that. That’s all nice but you have to have players. If you have players, you’re probably going to win. If you don’t have players, you’re not going to win. … They’re going to go out and get the best players, and if they don’t have them, then they’re going to keep trying until they get them.”

  483. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Ticket sales make up about 1% of the teams revenue.

    *****************************

    Ticket sales per se do, but the money people spend in the stadium is the driver of the gameday revenue.

  484. guest123 Says:

    Ticket sales per se do, but the money people spend in the stadium is the driver of the gameday revenue.

    *********

    This is true. Raiders have the lowest gameday revenue in the league. Look it up. The rest of the revenue is all shared. It’s why Mark Davis is pretty serious about getting a new stadium soon or else. This is where the bottom line feeds his pockets, or not.

  485. Charlie Says:

    DJ

    Oakland is a good opportunity if the job is a big promotion LIKE IT WAS FOR GRUDEN.

    My post on 482 shows why NO ONE WILL TAKE A LATERAL TO COME HERE.
    We have problems that will extend into 2014.

    Many better NFL opporunities are available.

  486. The_Judge37 Says:

    483.Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 8:41 am
    Ticket sales make up about 1% of the teams revenue.

    *****************************

    Ticket sales per se do, but the money people spend in the stadium is the driver of the gameday revenue.
    ——–

    Yeah but it’s probably cut in half by operating costs. The big money maker is revevnue sharing and Merchandise. I spent $25 for a damn T-Shirt at the Raider Image store, one that wouldn’t cost me 3 for 10 at the swapmeet.

  487. KoolKell Says:

    One game Allen – who fired offensive coordinator Greg Knapp and three other assistants – does not want to play is “What if?’

    Like what if he left alone an offense in which Darren McFadden ran for 5.4 yards per carry, rather than bring in Knapp and change to a zone-blocking scheme …
    “I’m not going to look back and try to say what could have, would have, or should have been,” Allen said. “I’m looking forward to what we need to do to try to get this team better in the future.”

    McFadden’s 3.3 yards per carry was the lowest average ever for a Raiders running back with at least 150 carries. (Harvey Williams put up a 3.5 in 1994.)

    Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/raiders/article/Raiders-Allen-won-t-play-what-if-game-4177896.php#ixzz2HUuyXfyl
    —————————————
    Of course he won’t answer THAT question.

  488. guest123 Says:

    Cash Flow From Operations For NFL Teams

    NFL teams try to fund their day-to-day operations exclusively through shared and unshared revenues. Put simply, they try to make enough money from football activities to fund player salaries, coaching salaries, travel expenses, and all other day-to-day operations.

    On average, an NFL team will generate approximately $15-20 million in cash flow a year. This means that the NFL team is taking in $15-20 million more cash revenues than they are putting out cash expenses. But in the case of the Oakland Raiders, cash flow from operations is thought to be in the range of $5-8 million per year. Cash flow from operations for the Raiders has been compromised due to low unshared local revenues and high player salary expenses.

  489. guest123 Says:

    Mark Davis can ill afford to continue to finance daily operations by selling off chunks of the team.

    Accordingly, he has already started the process of using only cash flow from operations to run day-to-day operations. The decision to cut Routt saved the Raiders $5 million in real cash expenditures that would have been due as a roster bonus. For a team like the Raiders that would have generated only $5-8 million in cash flow for 2012, the release of Routt has the potential to almost double the team’s cash flow situation.

  490. guest123 Says:

    The cash flow situation is as advertised, and it will time to dig out of this hole.

  491. Bob Marley Says:

    DA firing Knapp is proof that he considered we underachieved on Offense, if DA felt it wasn’t Knapp’s fault or that Knapp did a good job, he’d still be here.

    Simple as that.

    Unless you think it was Reggie forcing the Head Coach to fire his OC 1 year into his tenure, if that’s the case then things don’t bode well for DA since 1st year coaches are usually given more than 1 year to operate freely.

  492. Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:

    bcz24 Says:
    Ticket sales make up about 1% of the teams revenue.
    ==================================================

    Not quite. Per ESPN:
    Each team made $102.5 million in national television revenue last year, according to financial statements released by the Green Bay Packers, which is roughly double what the average team makes each year in ticket sales.

  493. Dakota Says:

    According to the packers 2010 income statement home ticket sales generated $31.1 million and road ticket sales $16 million.

    Total revenue of $258 million.

    Less that 1% of revenue?

    Wrong!

  494. hwnrdr Says:

    So if Reggie is looking at Green Bay assistants…who would be worth while to come here?

  495. KoolKell Says:

    The running problems bogged down the offense, taking away play-action possibilities and putting quarterback Carson Palmer in bad spots. Oakland faced 2nd-and-7 or longer on a league-worst 71.1 percent of second downs, and when it did get in scoring position, defenses were pretty confident the Raiders had to throw the ball
    .
    They averaged 1.74 yards per carry in the red zone, 31st in the NFL.
    Regardless of what one thinks of the talent level on the Raiders, the system was a bad fit and a big reason they went from back-to-back 8-8 seasons to 4-12.

    Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/raiders/article/Raiders-Allen-won-t-play-what-if-game-4177896.php#ixzz2HUxfXpP6
    —————————————————

  496. The Big Banana Says:

    All this talk about salary and the cap…I still gotta laugh when I think back to debates I had in here with folks over Al paying a player much more than they are worth with the inevitable comeback of “hey, it isn’t my money”.

    Lol! You People!

  497. The_Judge37 Says:

    491.Bob Marley Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 8:57 am
    DA firing Knapp is proof that he considered we underachieved on Offense, if DA felt it wasn’t Knapp’s fault or that Knapp did a good job, he’d still be here.

    Simple as that.

    Unless you think it was Reggie forcing the Head Coach to fire his OC 1 year into his tenure, if that’s the case then things don’t bode well for DA since 1st year coaches are usually given more than 1 year to operate freely.
    ———-

    It was pretty undeniable to not notice the lack of production from the offense. Which is why you have to question the decision to even hire him in the first place.

    I fear that Knapp’s production was so bad, that it may lead DA to think that it was the sole reason for his horrible season, which would be untrue. He really has a lot to improve on this year, not just the Offense and Roster. His coaching was really bad all around.

  498. KoolKell Says:

    Regardless of what one thinks of the talent level on the Raiders, the system was a bad fit and a big reason they went from back-to-back 8-8 seasons to 4-12.

    “Listen, at the end of the day, you are who you are,” Allen said. “You are what your record says you are. Do I think we can play better and have enough talent on this team to be better than we were? Yeah. We fell short in that area.”

    Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/raiders/article/Raiders-Allen-won-t-play-what-if-game-4177896.php#ixzz2HUyziKY8
    ——————————————

  499. The Big Banana Says:

    Bob Marley Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 8:57 am
    DA firing Knapp is proof that he considered we underachieved on Offense, if DA felt it wasn’t Knapp’s fault or that Knapp did a good job, he’d still be here.

    Simple as that.

    Unless you think it was Reggie forcing the Head Coach to fire his OC 1 year into his tenure, if that’s the case then things don’t bode well for DA since 1st year coaches are usually given more than 1 year to operate freely.

    —-

    Nor would it bode well for trying to she’d the rep of not allowing HCs control of their staff.

  500. Bob Marley Says:

    Speaking of cash, it would have been better to cut Seymour last offseason and pay him 7.5 million not to play than reworking his deal and paying him the remaining 7.5 million of his guaranteed 15 million salary (however it’s distributed for cap purposes, Rich still gets his 15, as opposed to 7.5 had he been cut), right?.

    And the reason we paid him the 15 million was because the organization felt this team was going to be competitive and in the hunt for a playoff spot, otherwise it makes no sense, you don’t spend that much cash on an older guy if you think you are headed for a “transition” year with no expectations.

    Mark, Reggie and the fans expected much more out of the 2012 Raiders, the coaching staff didn’t deliver.

  501. The Big Banana Says:

    I fear that Knapp’s production was so bad, that it may lead DA to think that it was the sole reason for his horrible season, which would be untrue. He really has a lot to improve on this year, not just the Offense and Roster. His coaching was really bad all around.

    Largely unimpressed with DA.

  502. Dakota Says:

    All this talk about salary and the cap…I still gotta laugh when I think back to debates I had in here with folks over Al paying a player much more than they are worth with the inevitable comeback of “hey, it isn’t my money”.
    ——

    I was told the same. Smh

  503. The_Judge37 Says:

    The reality is, the Salary Cap is just made up thing like the National Debt. It’s a way Owners get to Jew out on a season while raking in the dough.

  504. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I still gotta laugh when I think back to debates I had in here with folks over Al paying a player much more than they are worth with the inevitable comeback of “hey, it isn’t my money”.

    **************************

    That is the worst and most infantile argument in here!!!!

  505. The Big Banana Says:

    Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 8:57 am
    bcz24 Says:
    Ticket sales make up about 1% of the teams revenue.
    ==================================================

    Not quite. Per ESPN:
    Each team made $102.5 million in national television revenue last year, according to financial statements released by the Green Bay Packers, which is roughly double what the average team makes each year in ticket sales.

    Dakota Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 8:58 am
    According to the packers 2010 income statement home ticket sales generated $31.1 million and road ticket sales $16 million.

    Total revenue of $258 million.

    Less that 1% of revenue?

    Wrong!

    ———-

    Aw….why’d you guys have to go and ruin a good blog exaggeration?

  506. DJ Johnny Says:

    Charlie, really then the only way we could possibly make any sort of playoff run this next season is if the guys we have on our roster started playing like they were supposed to.

    Yes, Al way overspent, but if the guys he overpaid actually played as Al expected, we at least wouldn’t be faced with double digit losses during this transition period.

    A lot “if’s” come into play.

  507. Bob Marley Says:

    Look, DA obviously wasn’t ready for the job, but that doesn’t mean he won’t get better and turn out to be a good hire, 2013 should tell us a lot more about him, starting with the new offensive staff he’s going to hire.

  508. KoolKell Says:

    Bob Marley Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 8:57 am

    DA firing Knapp is proof that he considered we underachieved on Offense, if DA felt it wasn’t Knapp’s fault or that Knapp did a good job, he’d still be here.

    Simple as that.

    Unless you think it was Reggie forcing the Head Coach to fire his OC 1 year into his tenure, if that’s the case then things don’t bode well for DA since 1st year coaches are usually given more than 1 year to operate freely.
    —————————-
    We can all blame Knapp, But somebody besides Knapp figured Knapp would be good for this offensive group of players. But, of course DA won’t play the what if game and answer THAT question.

  509. Just Fire Baby Says:

    The running problems bogged down the offense, taking away play-action possibilities and putting quarterback Carson Palmer in bad spots.

    *******************************

    It would help if Carson would sell the play-action more so. Dude just half-azzes, half of them.

    That was Soup’s one, top-shelf skill. He worked the hell out of his fakes, and I think SOME (probably a small portion but still some) of our running and play-action issues are due to teams not being sold a tough play-action fake.

  510. Moose Says:

    Lost in the drama of the Rolando McClain situation was the solid play that Omar Gaither brought when he signed and took over the starting MLB spot.

    While he may not be the flashiest of linebackers, Gaither did his job and made all the plays he was supposed to. The difference that made in the middle, and especially in the running game, was obvious from the start.

    He very well could have earned himself a starting spot on this team in 2013. If nothing else, the Raiders would be extremely comfortable having him as a backup as well.

    Resigning Philip Wheeler should be the highest of priorities on Reggie McKenzie’s offseason list.

    Wheeler was by far the Raiders’ best player on defense all season long, and seemed to flourish as more of a downhill linebacker in the Raiders’ system compared to the Cover-2 he played in Indianapolis.
    ======
    Philip Wheeler has shown that he is a player this defense can build around moving forward, and is well deserving of a multi-year contract. We can expect Reggie McKenzie to make a significant effort to sign him to which before he gets to the open market.
    =======
    The Raiders could look very different on the interior defensive line in 2013. Richard Seymour’s contract voids this offseason, and Tommy Kelly’s contract makes him a candidate for release as well.

    In light of which, the Raiders can ill afford to lose Desmond Bryant. Bryant possesses good pass rush ability inside, and has continued to get better with more and more playing time.

    Should the Raiders switch to a 3-4 front, Bryant could flourish as a DE. Either way, we can expect re-signing Bryant to be a priority for Reggie McKenzie this offseason.
    =======
    Joselio Hanson was brought in on a one-year deal at the beginning of last season, and played quite well as a nickel corner.

    Hanson possesses the ability to match up with quicker slot receivers inside, and flashed some impressive play-making ability throughout the season.

    Nickel corners are extremely hard to find in the NFL, and the Raiders should make resigning Joselio Hanson a priority before free agency hits.
    ====
    First things first get it done Reg

  511. Dakota Says:

    Bob Marley Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 9:10 am
    Look, DA obviously wasn’t ready for the job, but that doesn’t mean he won’t get better and turn out to be a good hire, 2013 should tell us a lot more about him, starting with the new offensive staff he’s going to hire.
    —-

    Bob knows better, but he has to start saying this now so that by training camp he can have himself convinced the 2013 season is worth watching.

    I will probably do the same come July.

  512. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Yes, Al way overspent, but if the guys he overpaid actually played as Al expected, we at least wouldn’t be faced with double digit losses during this transition period.

    *************************

    Haven’t we had double-digit losses 7 of the last 9 years?

    We are the Kansas City Royals of football.

    Can’t get good coaches, FA’s will only come if we overpay, and our best home grown talent can’t wait to leave.

  513. Dakota Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 9:13 am
    Yes, Al way overspent, but if the guys he overpaid actually played as Al expected, we at least wouldn’t be faced with double digit losses during this transition period.

    *************************

    Haven’t we had double-digit losses 7 of the last 9 years?

    We are the Kansas City Royals of football.

    Can’t get good coaches, FA’s will only come if we overpay, and our best home grown talent can’t wait to leave.
    ———-

    La will solve those issues.

  514. DJ Johnny Says:

    IF our new OC is one to get the most out of the players then the following could happen:

    -DMAC has a resurgence in production
    -Somehow Reggie gets a solid #1 receiver. It can be done. I don’t buy that it can’t.
    -With a #1 to throw too and Streator emerging, he has more targets who can catch the ball and make plays.

    Defense:

    -Last quarter of season unit was # 3 in the league in overall D. That trend needs to continue and with the # 3 pick most likely coming to help it only gets better.

    There. Fixed. 12-4.

  515. Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:

    The Big Banana Says:
    Aw….why’d you guys have to go and ruin a good blog exaggeration?
    ====================================================

    Repeat a lie often enough and it beomes truth. Happens WAY too often in here. Should translate it to latin and make it our motto.
    (nothing personal bcz)

  516. Bob Marley Says:

    Dakota.

    LOL, I mean it!.

    —————————————————-
    Bob Marley Says:

    Look, DA obviously wasn’t ready for the job, but that doesn’t mean he won’t get better and turn out to be a good hire, 2013 should tell us a lot more about him, starting with the new offensive staff he’s going to hire.

    ————————————————

    Dakota says:

    Bob knows better, but he has to start saying this now so that by training camp he can have himself convinced the 2013 season is worth watching.

    I will probably do the same come July.

  517. guest123 Says:

    514. You have a colorful imagination. Where’s the fairy godmother in your story?

  518. 1960AutumnWind Says:

    The Big Banana Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 9:01 am
    All this talk about salary and the cap…I still gotta laugh when I think back to debates I had in here with folks over Al paying a player much more than they are worth with the inevitable comeback of “hey, it isn’t my money”.

    Lol! You People!
    ********************************

    From back in 2006 (or earlier not sure when I started) when I was first on this blog to present day, I have been informed that spending is irrelevant that AD always gets his guy and that if a player is dropped in March it is because they did not want them anyways and has nothing to do with the cap. That was not just bloggers but JM himself when he ran this blog.

    I think that is a load of bull and after AD passed away we now get to reap all this stuff.

    Kind of like the National Debt except on a much smaller scale.

  519. guest123 Says:

    I agree that DA wasn’t ready for the job, but I don’t see any attributes from last year that have me hopeful that he will ever be ready. I think DA is going to have us floundering until we come full circle with our cap mess and that could take a couple-three years. so,

    just patience baby!

  520. Dakota Says:

    Bob Marley Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 9:17 am
    Dakota.

    LOL, I mean it!.

    —————————————————-

    Sure you do buddy. I am all for coping mechanisms when it comes to the raiders! This blog is mine.

  521. Charlie Says:

    I would just caution all of you to be wary of thinking our running game was elite in 2011.

    Take a look at our performance against good defenses and our entire offense, let alone a running game, dissapeared. We got crushed. The stats can be misleading.

    The Packers, Chefs, Patriots and Dolphins shut us down.

    If we are going to return to the playoffs we need to run the ball on good teams. That means building the lines.Barnes has shown he can not compete against a good dline (see Denver 12/6/12) and Carlisle will most likely retire. This also assumes that Brisiel can have a better year than he did in 2012.
    Lots of question marks.

  522. Charlie Says:

    DJ

    I admire your enthusiasm.
    I wish we could surge into the playoffs as well.

    I am telling you we will be lucky to win 7 next year.

    As I have said we are now in year 2 of a 3-5 year project. Still over the cap in 2013 without a full complement of picks till 2014.

    “Meanwhile, Oakland is one of 10 teams currently over the salary cap. Oakland is $4.5 million over the cap for 2013. It was severely over the cap last season. This year, the Raiders, who will have to address punter Shane Lechler, tight end Brandon Myers and linebacker Philip Wheeler in free agency, will still have to make a lot of tough decisions and will have to tweak some contracts again. But they should be able to do a little more than they did last year.”

    “Fans who pined for the Jon Gruden fantasy to materialize should prepare for a more simple reality: McKenzie and Allen rolling up their sleeves and embarking on year two.
    In some ways, the second year will be a lot like the first — lots of changes to the roster.
    “I know we have some guys that are going to be the core of what we want and the type of players we want,” Allen said. “I also know we’ve got some work to do to get more of those types of players.”

    Those players will be found within a budget, because McKenzie does not believe in running up huge salary cap overages as Al Davis did, and the Raiders are believed to be close to the projected $121 million figure for 2013.

    McKenzie told reporters Nov. 30 the Raiders would be in position “to do some things” but lamented he didn’t see being able to bring aboard a big-ticket free agent in the way the Packers did with Charles Woodson when he was Director of Operations in Green Bay.
    That means that players with salaries that appear to exceed their production are candidates to be traded or released. McKenzie is currently without second- and fifth-round draft picks.
    With that in mind, don’t be surprised if McKenzie deals the No. 3 overall pick to pick up additional ones.
    Middle linebacker Rolando McClain, scheduled to make $4 million, will be released when it makes the most sense with regard to the salary cap.
    Others whose financial commitments could be an issue include wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey ($7,721,000 salary) and defensive tackle Tommy Kelly ($6.5 million salary, with potential bonuses up to $9.4 million).”

    “The Raiders are making changes to their offensive staff. It may take a couple of years to dig themselves out of a terrible cap situation that this regime inherited.”

    “The 2012 roster purge was necessary to even lineup this year but no one should have fooled themselves into thinking it would mean immediate success. Not sure things will be any better next year.”

  523. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Its never as bad, or as good as yout think.

  524. Dakota Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 9:25 am
    Its never as bad, or as good as yout think.
    —-

    Stop listening to your girlfriend.

  525. Just Fire Baby Says:

    No teams run on good defensive teams.

    You think the Texans are going to ground and pound the Pats this weekend?

    You run the ball to beat the Oakland Raiders of the NFL in the regular season, then need to pass the ball to keep up with the Mannings, Brady, Brees and Rogers in the post-season.

  526. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Look at that Skins as an example.

    Led the NFL in the regular season in rushing, faced a good defensive team in the Skins, and couldn’t do squat for 3/4 of the game.

    Once they couldn’t pass the ball and convert some 3rd downs, they were toast.

  527. 1960AutumnWind Says:

    DJ Johnny for OC. 12-4 book it! LOL

    If he could work with DA….

    The problem is that with players that are overpaid is that by definition do not play up to the contracts. People like Wimbley and Routt are not physically able to. No one else in the NFL is going pay what AD paid in these cicumstances. In other instances, something like McClain’s contract was reasonable considering his draft position and all the talking heads thought he was a good pick. That is just unfortunate and happens to every team.

    If we could draft an elite pass rusher that pans out. Get a #1 WR in free agency and get a new guard and new center (move Wiz to guard), and new left tackle from draft or FA and sign all our key FA’s like Meyers and Wheeler, it is quite possible we could be 10-6 or better but the point I (and others) have been making is that we do not have the cap room to do all this and even if we did we have to get lucky with one or more our draft picks and stay relatively healthy.

  528. NGRaiderfan Says:

    anyone know if Eddy Lacy is entering draft. He is a Monster.

  529. Gdog Says:

    Bob Marley Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 9:05 am

    Speaking of cash, it would have been better to cut Seymour last offseason and pay him 7.5 million not to play than reworking his deal and paying him the remaining 7.5 million of his guaranteed 15 million salary (however it’s distributed for cap purposes, Rich still gets his 15, as opposed to 7.5 had he been cut), right?.

    >>>>

    Plus by restructuring it just put off the guaranteed money until this year.

    This is the ONE decision Reggie made that makes me wonder if he is the right person for the job. Why did he not only keep Seymour, but restructure him to screw up this years cap? It makes no sense unless he thought it would bring in more paying customers, or he thought we were going deep into the playoffs (PLAYOFFS?)

    A GM on the top of his game would have cut bait with Seymour and focused on rebuilding with players he intended to keep for this year (and beyond).

  530. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    i would support dj johnny…

  531. Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:

    What’s up with this?
    ——————–

    KoolKell’s Wife Says:
    September 30th, 2008 at 8:50 pm

    I got Kell’s money

  532. guest123 Says:

    Dakota Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 9:27 am
    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 9:25 am
    Its never as bad, or as good as yout think.
    —-

    Stop listening to your girlfriend

    lol

  533. DKnight007 Says:

    20.eastoaklandraider Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 4:50 pm
    1665.eastoaklandraider Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 4:45 pm
    DKnight007 there you are LOL Manti Te’o my ass GTFOH here with that bum I saw him get beasted miss tackles and look just plain garbage out there. His stock just took a major hit, I wouldnt pick him with a 2nd rd pick.

    1666.eastoaklandraider Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 4:48 pm
    Te’o didnt make ONE play last night ROLMFAO, bring back Ro before we draft that bum.

    ^^^^^^^
    Hmm…did Moore, Jones, Werner and Jordan make plays in their Bowl games as well?

    They didn’t do anything significant either. Granted Werner was double teamed a few times, but he didn’t make an impact.

    Granted, McK will need to trade down and get more picks if he can find a trade partner.

  534. The_Judge37 Says:

    517.guest123 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 9:18 am
    514. You have a colorful imagination. Where’s the fairy godmother in your story?
    ——–

    She’s on the sidelines, wearing a Visor.

  535. bcz24 Says:

    Repeat a lie often enough and it beomes truth. Happens WAY too often in here. Should translate it to latin and make it our motto.
    (nothing personal bcz)
    ****************
    Someone said that in here (the 1% stat) and I laughed. I didn’t think it was even close. So I did my research to come up with an accurate stat, and I couldn’t find anything to dispute, AND I actually found one that supported the claim (which i can’t find again). I will take my lumps for spreading false info…

  536. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Maybe Reggie kept Seymour to appease his blog fan base who portrayed him as the elite of the elitest D-lineman, not overly overpaid, and a complete fleecing of a trade by Al?

  537. Dakota Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 9:27 am
    No teams run on good defensive teams.

    You think the Texans are going to ground and pound the Pats this weekend?

    You run the ball to beat the Oakland Raiders of the NFL in the regular season, then need to pass the ball to keep up with the Mannings, Brady, Brees and Rogers in the post-season.
    ——–

    We all know we need breed, Rodgers, manning or Brady….but the don’t grow on trees. The 2012 raiders proved that you can have a qb throw for 4k yards and you still suck.

    Dealing in reality, we can win with Palmer as long as our wrs play better and our running game improves and the defense doesn’t turn 90% of palmers turnovers into Tds.

    If we could draft a franchise qb, yeah it would all fall in place. In the meantime, we need a running game to win some games and get this franchise back to respectability.

  538. guest123 Says:

    Once they couldn’t pass the ball and convert some 3rd downs, they were toast.

    *********

    Skins had a 14-0 lead after one qtr. They were toast the minute that Shanahan saw his starting QB limping and still kept him out there despite having a Kirk Cousins to go to. Still should have won that game. Don’t give the Seahawk d that much credit either. Shanny blew it big time.

  539. DutchRaider77 Says:

    @Gdog

    You do realize Seymour is a free agent and his contract has been voided!

    Why keep repeating false information?

  540. DKnight007 Says:

    525.Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 9:27 am
    No teams run on good defensive teams.

    You think the Texans are going to ground and pound the Pats this weekend?

    You run the ball to beat the Oakland Raiders of the NFL in the regular season, then need to pass the ball to keep up with the Mannings, Brady, Brees and Rogers in the post-season.

    ^^^^^^^^
    I think the Texans need to definitely pound the rock and control the clock to keep Brady off the field.

  541. Bob Marley Says:

    Amazing how media twists stuff.

    Here’s what Charlie posted, I’m sure he copied it from some website:

    “McKenzie told reporters Nov. 30 the Raiders would be in position “to do some things” but lamented he didn’t see being able to bring aboard a big-ticket free agent in the way the Packers did with Charles Woodson when he was Director of Operations in Green Bay.”

    This is what Reggie actually said:

    “I remember talking to Ted Thompson. His rookie year he was able to get Charles Woodson. I would have liked to have done that.”

    On that interview, Reggie was speaking about last season, his rookie season as a GM, he clearly says Ted Thompson was able to sign Woodson the year he was made GM and he would have liked to have the chance to do the same, as in signing a big-name Free Agent.

    2012 people, not 2013, that doesn’t mean we are in great shape, but we will be better off, jeez just make reports accurate….

  542. Dakota Says:

    FTP! (fk this phone!)

  543. RaiderDebo Says:

    Guest123 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 7:35 am
    it begs the question, why the hell does he keep going back?

    ********

    Deep down in his heart, he’s a hood rat from his small time ghetto, and that’s all he’ll ever be. He’ll never escape his upbringing. That environment is paradise to him. There, he’s “tha man”.
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Gee, that’s deep. Think it’s a little simpler than that though. Alabama is his home.

  544. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I think the Texans need to definitely pound the rock and control the clock to keep Brady off the field.

    ***********************

    You got to outshoot him, IMO.

    You can have a nice ball-control, 12 play 85 yard drive, and then the Pats go 6 plays 80 yards in 2 minutes right back at you.

    You just can’t keep up trying to run the ball, unless you are fortunate in the turnover department and get extra possessions, but good luck with that.

  545. 1960AutumnWind Says:

    Regarding teams do not run the ball in playoffs – What did Giants do to Buffalo Bills back in 90’s or even Giants with Patriots in I think 2007 (when they came in undefeated with a TD record). Ground and pound has won championships at times.

  546. guest123 Says:

    Last year before training camp, I said that DMAC was our engine and he stalled out we’d be dead in the water.

    I no longer want to rely on DMAC. It’s time to get with the new way of running an offense. Run to set up the pass instead of visa versa. We need a dynamic attack with multiple reads and scale back the reliance on an oft-gimpy stud RB. I’d be just as content to deal DMAC away to streamline the transition to modern football.

  547. Just Fire Baby Says:

    You do realize Seymour is a free agent and his contract has been voided!

    Why keep repeating false information?

    ****************************

    See post #515

  548. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    fvck the texaints…chokers of all chokers!

  549. Back-n-Black Says:

    RaidingTexas Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 6:34 am

    Cold and rainy here in Tejas, DIRT. How’s life in your neck of the woods?

    Yeah, it’s pretty likely they weren’t just pulling him over because of that. It’s either because of who he is, general profiling, or something else he was doing.
    …..

    Where are you in TX? I live in the Lufkin area. About 100 miles north of Houston.

  550. guest123 Says:

    You can have a nice ball-control, 12 play 85 yard drive, and then the Pats go 6 plays 80 yards in 2 minutes right back at you.

    ************

    See the problem right there is on 12 play drives vs 6 play drives, there’s a likelyhood of things going wrong (fumble, int, holding call) that stall out your drive. An awful lot has to go perfect to execute 12 play drives. But not a huge margin for error for 6 play drives. I’d much rather be the quick strike offense than the ground and pound offense.

  551. bcz24 Says:

    Plus by restructuring it just put off the guaranteed money until this year.

    This is the ONE decision Reggie made that makes me wonder if he is the right person for the job. Why did he not only keep Seymour, but restructure him to screw up this years cap? It makes no sense unless he thought it would bring in more paying customers, or he thought we were going deep into the playoffs (PLAYOFFS?)

    A GM on the top of his game would have cut bait with Seymour and focused on rebuilding with players he intended to keep for this year (and beyond).
    ************************
    This is false information to an extent. We were desperately over the cap last season. How many other guys would have had to be cut to support the 7.5 mill in dead money last year? Sey only cost 2.2 mill toward 2012’s cap with the restructure, with the remaining 5.2 counting against 13. Its not like Seymour got additional money out of the deal (he would have if the contract hadnt voided).You guys preach so often that Al never had cap problems, but the one time Reggie plays Al’s cap game, you instantly say he isn’t qualified for the job?

    We already had dead money from Routt, Wimbley and I am sure there are a few other guys. How much dead money can you float in one season?

  552. Just Fire Baby Says:

    or even Giants with Patriots in I think 2007

    ******************************

    90 yards on 26 carries?

    Giants won with a great D-line, that is the only kryptonite in the NFL for these offenses.

    Those, super top-shelf, $200 a shot defensive lines that come by once every 5 years or so.

  553. DKnight007 Says:

    514.DJ Johnny Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 9:16 am
    IF our new OC is one to get the most out of the players then the following could happen:

    -DMAC has a resurgence in production
    -Somehow Reggie gets a solid #1 receiver. It can be done. I don’t buy that it can’t.
    -With a #1 to throw too and Streator emerging, he has more targets who can catch the ball and make plays.

    Defense:

    -Last quarter of season unit was # 3 in the league in overall D. That trend needs to continue and with the # 3 pick most likely coming to help it only gets better.

    There. Fixed. 12-4.

    ^^^^^^^^
    The defense being good the last quarter of the season is mis leading.

    They shut out a team that was slightly worse in the Chiefs. That means nothing IMO. The Chiefs could have scored some FG’s at least in that game. They had no QB and their best WR was out.

  554. 1960AutumnWind Says:

    guest123 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 9:39 am
    Last year before training camp, I said that DMAC was our engine and he stalled out we’d be dead in the water.

    I no longer want to rely on DMAC. It’s time to get with the new way of running an offense. Run to set up the pass instead of visa versa. We need a dynamic attack with multiple reads and scale back the reliance on an oft-gimpy stud RB. I’d be just as content to deal DMAC away to streamline the transition to modern football.
    *******************
    While I love watching DMAC when he is on, it is hard to build an offense around someone that can not stay healthy. I would rather have more mediocore to above average backs than the injured “superstar” that you can not rely on.

  555. MikieG Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 8:31 am

    McClain probably lied about his name just to avoid ANY type of trouble being associated with him knowing he’s on very thin ice as it is…career wise.
    +++++++++

    Dude, I know, but it was equivalent to a freakin speeding ticket and then turned it into getting arrested for no other reason than just being a freakin idiot. Goodell doesn’t suspend people for getting window tint tickets…Good Lord. Hell I even tried to pay for a ticket with cash one time on the spot (I was 16 and didn’t know you couldn’t do that)…Rolando is just an idiot–mail in your fine and move on with your life–don’t present a false identity for NO REASOn–your not a freakin Fugitive..

    God and THIS guy was in Charge of our Defense..! UGH!

  556. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Dakota Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 9:27 am
    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 9:25 am
    Its never as bad, or as good as yout think.
    —-

    Stop listening to your girlfriend.

    —-

    Classy.

  557. RaiderDebo Says:

    Dakota Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 9:34 am
    Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 9:27 am
    No teams run on good defensive teams.

    You think the Texans are going to ground and pound the Pats this weekend?

    You run the ball to beat the Oakland Raiders of the NFL in the regular season, then need to pass the ball to keep up with the Mannings, Brady, Brees and Rogers in the post-season.
    ——–

    We all know we need breed, Rodgers, manning or Brady….but the don’t grow on trees. The 2012 raiders proved that you can have a qb throw for 4k yards and you still suck.

    Dealing in reality, we can win with Palmer as long as our wrs play better and our running game improves and the defense doesn’t turn 90% of palmers turnovers into Tds.

    If we could draft a franchise qb, yeah it would all fall in place. In the meantime, we need a running game to win some games and get this franchise back to respectability.
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Ummm, you don’t PASS on good Ds either. That’s why SF kicked the sht out of Brady and Rodgers earlier this season and why SF will do it again this weekend.

  558. Just Fire Baby Says:

    #550

    Gets it.

    Only 3 teams in the wholf f’n league ran the ball 50% of more of the time.

    3 teams!!!!

    And 3rd and 1 runs were converted less than half the time, league-wide.

    It is a passing league, and 3rd and 1 is a passing down now.

  559. The_Judge37 Says:

    Maybe McClain did give the Cops his correct information, but because they only know him as Slowlando, they falsley imprisoned him.

  560. poprox13 Says:

    Vic Tafur‏ @VicTafur
    Rolando McClain signed a citation for overly dark window tint as “(Expletive) y’all,” Decatur police said. #Raiders

    Vic Tafur‏ @VicTafur
    When a patrol supervisor asked McClain to put his real name on the ticket, McClain told the sergeant, “That is my name,” per Decatur Daily.

  561. bcz24 Says:

    See the problem right there is on 12 play drives vs 6 play drives, there’s a likelyhood of things going wrong (fumble, int, holding call) that stall out your drive. An awful lot has to go perfect to execute 12 play drives. But not a huge margin for error for 6 play drives. I’d much rather be the quick strike offense than the ground and pound offense
    **************
    They talked about that on Sirius in the offseason. Its something like 75% of all drives lasting more the 11 plays do NOT end in a score.

  562. DKnight007 Says:

    544.Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 9:39 am
    I think the Texans need to definitely pound the rock and control the clock to keep Brady off the field.

    ***********************

    You got to outshoot him, IMO.

    You can have a nice ball-control, 12 play 85 yard drive, and then the Pats go 6 plays 80 yards in 2 minutes right back at you.

    You just can’t keep up trying to run the ball, unless you are fortunate in the turnover department and get extra possessions, but good luck with that.

    ^^^^^^^
    The Pats defense is not that good.

    They can be run on. I also think the Texans should run some no huddle and of course pass, but they need to control time of possession.

    The Texans D can hold Brady, but they need to make sure his azz is sitting down most of the time….keep him rusty.

  563. Just Fire Baby Says:

    SF aint winning this weekend.

    The 49ers will probably rush for 150 yards, generate 5 sacks on Rodgers, and still get backdoored at the end to the superior player on the field.

    Aaron Rodgers.

  564. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    If you’ve ever had to deal with overzealous cops, then you can relate with McClain’s latest arrest.

  565. guest123 Says:

    Wow! That’s pretty dumb! My name is “F#$K y’all”. That will go over nice with the judge who is going to ask him why he keeps wasting the court’s time?

  566. shutdown Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 8:31 am

    McClain probably lied about his name just to avoid ANY type of trouble being associated with him knowing he’s on very thin ice as it is…career wise.
    _____________________________________________________

    Duh. You mean you think that he wouldn’t have known that after being stopped, an officer would ask the driver for his driver’s license, which, ya know, has the driver’s name right there for all to see?

    Want to reconsider?

  567. RaiderDebo Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 9:47 am
    SF aint winning this weekend.

    The 49ers will probably rush for 150 yards, generate 5 sacks on Rodgers, and still get backdoored at the end to the superior player on the field.

    Aaron Rodgers.

    @@@@@@@@@@@@

    How did that work out in Green Bay this year?

  568. Back-n-Black Says:

    Charlie Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 8:39 am

    Full Disclosure

    The hole that was dug was two fold.

    It was a combination of a lack of draft picks as a result of needing PANIC DEALS(SEYMOUR) to compensate for poor drafting over a decade AND having the highest payroll on any NFL team in 2012 let alone 2010.

    When Reggie took the job:

    As of March 25, 2012, The Oakland Raiders held TWO SELECTIONS in the 2012 NFL Draft (a 5th and 6th round pick), which was just about a month away. The NFL awarded the Raiders three COMPENSATORY PICKS March 26. (A 3rd round 4th round and 5th round pick).

    “In 2010, Al Davis went all out for his football team in an uncapped year and spent the most money in the league at over $150 million in player salaries. That is easily the most money ever spent on a team in the history of the NFL. One thing we know for sure is that Al Davis made his own bed here and whether that is good or bad, he must lie in it. At the other end of the spectrum are the Bengals, who have only $83.5 million in commitments for 2012. The Buccaneers, Titans, Redskins, and Broncos also are under $100 million.”

    We are about FIVE million over the cap in 2013 without even drafting a player.

    “Meanwhile, Oakland is one of 10 teams currently over the salary cap. Oakland is $4.5 million over the cap. It was severely over the cap last season. This year, the Raiders, who will have to address punter Shane Lechler, tight end Brandon Myers and linebacker Philip Wheeler in free agency, will still have to make a lot of tough decisions and will have to tweak some contracts again.”

    The fact is Mr Davis kept kicking the can down the road, then Hue got Palmer making the cap situation worse AND giving up two very high draft picks in 2012 and 2013.

    This is why I have said that it will take 3-5 years to fix this mess and that our problems are much bigger than who our OC is.
    It is also why I say Reggie had NOTHING to do with the mess. His hands were tied when he took the job and I laugh when some on this blog were surprised we had the season we had. ZERO ROSTER DEPTH (due to the aforementioned cap problems AND A BAD ROSTER TO BEGIN WITH) and several injuries were the primary culprits.

    “It’s going to be structured around the personnel part and getting good players,” Madden said. “It’s all about players. We can talk about this thing and that thing and having good cheerleaders and all that. That’s all nice but you have to have players. If you have players, you’re probably going to win. If you don’t have players, you’re not going to win. … They’re going to go out and get the best players, and if they don’t have them, then they’re going to keep trying until they get them.”
    ………

    good insight. though, without a competent OC it makes it harder to identify the talent needed to run a system.

    Plus, there is SOME talent here. The Raiders may not be ready to win the AFC West, but they should be in more games than they were.

  569. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    DHB, Kelly & Palmer are going to re-do their contracts.

    That alone shaves roughly 18-20 million this year.

  570. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    dont blame him…stupid aszsz cop was probably jealous of his car….

  571. Dakota Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 9:44 am
    Dakota Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 9:27 am
    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 9:25 am
    Its never as bad, or as good as yout think.
    —-

    Stop listening to your girlfriend.

    —-

    Classy.
    +++++++

    I was kidding! Sorry if I offended you. ;)

  572. guest123 Says:

    I’ve dealt with overzealous cops, but I can’t relate to ever being disrespectful of their authority. I might cuss under my breath and get beet red about them, but I don’t give them any ammo to raise the stakes. So no I can’t relate. Sorry.

  573. The_Judge37 Says:

    Decatur Officer: “You’ve signed at the top of the ticket, at the bottom, in the date box, in the address box and in reason box. For the last time son, put your name in the correct signature box. What the hell is so hard about that?”

    RoMac: “Sorry sir, i’m Rolando McClain”

    Decatur Officer: “Oh, I’m sorry to hear that.”

  574. bcz24 Says:

    Ummm, you don’t PASS on good Ds either. That’s why SF kicked the sht out of Brady and Rodgers earlier this season and why SF will do it again this weekend.
    ***********
    Win or lose, Brady scored 5 TDs in 14.5 minutes on that good D.

  575. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Dakota Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 9:51 am
    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 9:44 am
    Dakota Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 9:27 am
    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 9:25 am
    Its never as bad, or as good as yout think.
    —-

    Stop listening to your girlfriend.

    —-

    Classy.
    +++++++

    I was kidding! Sorry if I offended you.

    —-

    Never that bro.

    Im telling you there needs to be a sarcasm font.

    Would help a lot.

  576. Gdog Says:

    DutchRaider77 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 9:35 am

    @Gdog

    You do realize Seymour is a free agent and his contract has been voided!

    Why keep repeating false information?

    >>>>>

    Ooops! You are correct, and I do keep forgetting this.

    Sorry.

    OTOH, how did Reggie know this would happen? He made that decision thinking Seymour wouldn’t be able to play the entire season? If he played one more game, my point would be 100% valid. We’d now be stuck with his entire guaranteed contract.

  577. The_Judge37 Says:

    570.Al_is_theraiders Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 9:51 am
    dont blame him…stupid aszsz cop was probably jealous of his car….
    —–

    Maybe he was upset because his Windows weren’t tinted?

  578. guest123 Says:

    DHB, Kelly & Palmer are going to re-do their contracts.

    That alone shaves roughly 18-20 million this year.

    *********

    By re-do, you mean restructure (spread the wealth to the future) or take a pay cut (incentive laden deals)?

    I think only Palmer is any position of leverage. no?

  579. Just Fire Baby Says:

    How did that work out in Green Bay this year?

    ************************

    Week 1??

    LOL….OK

  580. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    im thinking it was a nice car…but maybe the cop was made his sunglasses werent as tinted…

  581. guest123 Says:

    Never bet on 30 something year old DL’s going into the last years of the thier contracts. Reggie had to learn the hard way.

  582. Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:

    bcz24 Says:
    Someone said that in here (the 1% stat) and I laughed./…/ I will take my lumps for spreading false info…
    ======================================================

    No worries. Although I think a reporter first said that Jason Campbell played more tentavely looking over his shoulder at the Bruce, it was repeated in here until it was “commom knowledge”. I never saw it. Thought he played largely the same as #1 or #2, in relief or as a starter, or whether or not Bruce was healthy or hurt.
    He11, another example of a “common knowledge” untruth is the league wide perception of Raider fans, and it’s real. I usually visit upcoming teams sites (SBNation) and half their fans really think it’s true.

  583. Just Fire Baby Says:

    The only reason there are “overzealous” cops, is because there are Grade-A douches like Rolando McClain giving them attitude all the time.

  584. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    guest123 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 9:53 am
    DHB, Kelly & Palmer are going to re-do their contracts.

    That alone shaves roughly 18-20 million this year.

    *********

    By re-do, you mean restructure (spread the wealth to the future) or take a pay cut (incentive laden deals)?

    I think only Palmer is any position of leverage. no?

    —-

    Depends if the money is guaranteed or not.

    In Palmer’s case he is getting 17 million no matter what happens, its about spreading it out or putting it in a bonus.

    DHB & Kelly are pay cut candidates I beleive.

  585. Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:

    Thank you post 500.

  586. guest123 Says:

    Isn’t this coming year the first year that NFL teams have to spend 95% of the salary cap on salaries? Is dead money still count or is this a real money spending floor?

  587. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 9:56 am
    The only reason there are “overzealous” cops, is because there are Grade-A douches like Rolando McClain giving them attitude all the time.

    —-

    Maybe where you live.

    But everywhere ive been, 90% of the cops are power monsters doing whatever they want.

  588. Raider O Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 9:56 am
    The only reason there are “overzealous” cops, is because there are Grade-A douches like Rolando McClain giving them attitude all the time.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$

    BS!!!
    Some cops are just a$$holes!

  589. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    oh yeah…cops are always innocent…

  590. guest123 Says:

    The only reason there are “overzealous” cops, is because there are Grade-A douches like Rolando McClain giving them attitude all the time.

    *********

    Chicker or the egg?

  591. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I mean, Rolando could have signed the ticket, got in his car and went home. Probably would have taken 15 minutes and a fine that is equivalent to like 35 cents to us.

    But instead, he is writing curse words on the ticket, FORCING the officer to arrest him and do more work.

    I hope they roughed him up in the parking lot back at the station.

  592. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    28 million in dead money for us this year.

    28 million.

  593. Gdog Says:

    guest123 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 9:51 am

    I’ve dealt with overzealous cops, but I can’t relate to ever being disrespectful of their authority. I might cuss under my breath and get beet red about them, but I don’t give them any ammo to raise the stakes. So no I can’t relate. Sorry.

    >>>>>

    No kidding. I’ve dealt with cops more times than one normally would think and every time I have treated them kindly, with remorse, and above all, with respect, and every time save ONE I have received either a warning or a reduced fine, or they simply sent me on my way. The one guy was just an ass-hat.

  594. guest123 Says:

    Power monsters! Yeah! Sounds like a great toy. I want one!

  595. Raider O Says:

    Exactly DAV.

    They try to intimidate citizens.
    Thank God their BS doesn’t work on me.

    Can I search you? NO pig and eff off!

  596. The_Judge37 Says:

    595.Raider O Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:00 am
    Exactly DAV.

    They try to intimidate citizens.
    Thank God their BS doesn’t work on me.

    Can I search you? NO pig and eff off!
    ——

    Sound like you’ve had to speak to Sgt. Nightstick a few times.

  597. Raider O Says:

    Cops: power hungry pigs.

  598. Raider O Says:

    LOL judge. You are a funny dude. I enjoy reading your posts.

  599. Just Fire Baby Says:

    We need more police officers like the ones who arrested Rolando.

    Writing “F Ya’ll” on the ticket?

    I hope he gets jail time for it.

  600. Bob Marley Says:

    bcz24 Says:

    See the problem right there is on 12 play drives vs 6 play drives, there’s a likelyhood of things going wrong (fumble, int, holding call) that stall out your drive. An awful lot has to go perfect to execute 12 play drives. But not a huge margin for error for 6 play drives. I’d much rather be the quick strike offense than the ground and pound offense.

    **************

    They talked about that on Sirius in the offseason. Its something like 75% of all drives lasting more the 11 plays do NOT end in a score.

    ————————————————–

    BCZ24.

    Man that’s a telling stat.

    I was watching the Texans-Bengals game, Houston ran those long, methodical drives that kept grinding out the clock but you could feel that they were one bad play away from stalling and it happened 3 or 4 times, I remember they refused to throw a ball over 12-15 yards, now some of that is the defensive coverage designed to prevent Andre Johnson going over the top, but man there’s got to be a balance between “taking what the defense gives you” and letting the opponent dictate the game.

    Not an offense I would want here.

  601. The Big Banana Says:

    Guest123 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 9:51 am
    I’ve dealt with overzealous cops, but I can’t relate to ever being disrespectful of their authority. I might cuss under my breath and get beet red about them, but I don’t give them any ammo to raise the stakes. So no I can’t relate. Sorry.

    ——-

    Exactly. Ok to despise some of these pricks but don’t be stupid.

  602. guest123 Says:

    The comparison of Palmer to Soup on his ability to sell play action is hilarious. It’s not Palmer being lazy. He just can’t do it. Nobody is buying the PA fake anyway. What’s the point in trying to sell it? It’s a bad philosophy to rely on Palmer being a running threat/rollout type QB. Hope the next OC sees Palmer for what he is and doesn’t ask him to do what he can’t.

  603. edward teach Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 9:56 am
    The only reason there are “overzealous” cops, is because there are Grade-A douches like Rolando McClain giving them attitude all the time.

    ********************************************************

    Somebody doesn’t get out much.

  604. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    a cuss word forces an arrest?…hope he sues the knapp out of the force…

  605. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Ive been jumped by cops, my face slammed into a sidewalk while a knee was on my neck, hand pinned under my stomach so they could say I was resisting.

    I was arrested for ‘resisiting arrest’…

    How you do resist something that never happened.

    A traffic stop. Where someone else in the car was giving the cop attitude. I got beat for it.

    Anyway, moving along.

  606. The_Judge37 Says:

    I once had a cop ticket me for cracked windshield, no front license plate and cracked Taillight after searching my car for over an hour, running serial numbers on the engine, etc…

    Told him it’s sad that he’s upset because i wasn’t breaking the law, and all he could bust me for was driving a bucket.

  607. Raider O Says:

    I never had a problem with cops in Ohio or KY. I like/ respect cops in Ohio, but Cali cops are A$$holes.

  608. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Dead money doesnt count towards cap anymore.

    Teams have to spend now.

  609. 1960AutumnWind Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 9:56 am
    guest123 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 9:53 am
    DHB, Kelly & Palmer are going to re-do their contracts.

    That alone shaves roughly 18-20 million this year.

    *********

    By re-do, you mean restructure (spread the wealth to the future) or take a pay cut (incentive laden deals)?

    I think only Palmer is any position of leverage. no?

    —-

    Depends if the money is guaranteed or not.

    In Palmer’s case he is getting 17 million no matter what happens, its about spreading it out or putting it in a bonus.

    DHB & Kelly are pay cut candidates I beleive.
    *****************************

    I think Kelly is gone. I think he was trade bait last year but his poor play has ruined that. DHB may take a pay cut or get cut and go on the Market. Palmer will restructure and spread it out if RM needs him to but he is not taking a pay cut – the money is already spent so to speak. By restructuring all we are doing is prolonging the problem.

    The big question is if we are already over the cap even with like 8 key FA’s gone how are we even going to retain what we have let alone build talent?

    My guess is we are resigning Wheeler some of the young DB’s as well as Bryant and the MB we picked up at the end and will let Meyers and Shonasty walk. We will sign some washed up or overlooked WR to a 1-2 year contract as our crapshoot to find a #1 reciever. We may resign Spenser at the minimum and keep Huff as CB and he may resturcture. In other words don’t expect big upgrades here unless we get lucky in the draft and/or our existing players step up such as our backup TE’s. We may even trade McFadden to save money.

  610. Gdog Says:

    I can remember one time I pulled in front of a cop, and as he was walking up to my car I was just shaking my head and said “Sorry officer, that was just STUPID.” He just smiled and sent me on my way.

  611. guest123 Says:

    We need more police officers like the ones who arrested Rolando.

    Writing “F Ya’ll” on the ticket?

    I hope he gets jail time for it.

    **********

    I just hope they tape the court trial and we get to hear the judge ask the question, “Mr McClain, why did you sign the ticket with those words? Explain.”

  612. The Big Banana Says:

    See the problem right there is on 12 play drives vs 6 play drives, there’s a likelyhood of things going wrong (fumble, int, holding call) that stall out your drive. An awful lot has to go perfect to execute 12 play drives. But not a huge margin for error for 6 play drives. I’d much rather be the quick strike offense than the ground and pound offense.

    **************

    They talked about that on Sirius in the offseason. Its something like 75% of all drives lasting more the 11 plays do NOT end in a score.

    ————————————————–

    BCZ24.

    Man that’s a telling stat.

    ——

    And that’s the driving force behind the bend but don’t break defensive philosophy. This is my problem with the time consuming dinky dunky offense. Execution needs to be at or near perfect.

  613. guest123 Says:

    A traffic stop. Where someone else in the car was giving the cop attitude. I got beat for it.

    Anyway, moving along.

    *******

    you shoulda sued

  614. DMAC Says:

    Morning/afternoon peoples!

    Call me The Lorax, cuz I speak for the trees!
    What up Green Party?!

  615. Just Fire Baby Says:

    A traffic stop. Where someone else in the car was giving the cop attitude.

    *********************************

    Well, don’t write checks you aren’t prepared to cash.

  616. The_Judge37 Says:

    Best police stop i’ve ever had was by East LA Sheriffs.

    Pulled us over for smoking weed in the car.

    Pulled us out at Gun point

    Searched for Weapons, didn’t find any

    Open the back of his car and said “Get the fk outta my car”

    And sent us on our way with weed an all. Took about 15 min

  617. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    The salary minimum will return for the 2013 season, at which time each team must spend at least 89% of the cap in cash on player salaries

  618. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    weak.

  619. Dakota Says:

    Charlie Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 9:20 am

    I would just caution all of you to be wary of thinking our running game was elite in 2011.

    Take a look at our performance against good defenses and our entire offense, let alone a running game, dissapeared. We got crushed. The stats can be misleading.

    The Packers, Chefs, Patriots and Dolphins shut us down.
    If we are going to return to the playoffs we need to run the ball on good teams. That means building the lines.Barnes has shown he can not compete against a good dline (see Denver 12/6/12) and Carlisle will most likely retire. This also assumes that Brisiel can have a better year than he did in 2012.
    Lots of question marks.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++

    This is just flat wrong as to the run game….here are the stats for those games:

    2011:
    Raiders19-NE-31
    McFadden 14 carries for 75 yards = 5.357 YPC
    Down 24-10 in the 3rd and abandoned the run

    Raiders 0-KC 28
    Bush 17 carries for 99 yards = 5.823 YPC
    Down 14-0 in the first and 21-0 in 3rd

    Raiders 14-Phins-34
    Bush 22 carries for 100 yards= 4.55 YPC
    Down 34-0 in 3rd

    The Packers did hold Bush to 3.39 yards per carry.

    Our running game was fine in 2011…..the defense fawking sucked. But I agree that we need to build the o-line, but getting back to the 2011 level running the ball would be great.

    You just hate Hue or something?

  620. Raider O Says:

    I was trying to get my license out of my wallet after being stopped on a demo ride, and the pig told me he wasn’t interested in a bribe I told him he is not worth it.
    Thank god I had a witness (customer on demo).

  621. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    guest123 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:07 am
    A traffic stop. Where someone else in the car was giving the cop attitude. I got beat for it.

    Anyway, moving along.

    *******

    you shoulda sued

    —-

    Didnt have the money to hire a lawyer, and wanted to move along with life.

    I shouldnt have been out that night or with those people anyway so I just wrote it off..

  622. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Guarantee you guys go talk to the Police chaplain about what he hears on a day by day basis and you would have a different perspective of “overzealous” cops.

  623. dr_robert Says:

    Lots of cops are idiots. It seems to be the lure of the job. On the other hand, they are needed. There just needs to be way better education for them on how to do their jobs. They need to emphasize “peace officer ” and quit acting like they’re in the military.

    Of course, a guy like raider O shouts out “racist” so often, that people stop listening. The boy who cried wolf.

  624. The_Judge37 Says:

    611.guest123 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:06 am
    We need more police officers like the ones who arrested Rolando.

    Writing “F Ya’ll” on the ticket?

    I hope he gets jail time for it.

    **********

    I just hope they tape the court trial and we get to hear the judge ask the question, “Mr McClain, why did you sign the ticket with those words? Explain.”
    ——

    Rolando: “Because the officer was being racist”
    Judge: “How so?”
    Rolando: “Because me and my friends had all the windows rolled down when we were stopped”

  625. Bob Marley Says:

    LOL.

    Once after a huge fight outside a Bar, a cop slammed my face into a car, told me to stay down and when I got up to say “It’s ok officer, let’s all settle down here”, he decked my calf with his shotgun so I would stay down…that hurt!, but at least they let us go after a few minutes.

  626. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:08 am
    A traffic stop. Where someone else in the car was giving the cop attitude.

    *********************************

    Well, don’t write checks you aren’t prepared to cash.

    —-

    You dont read well today?

  627. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:10 am
    Guarantee you guys go talk to the Police chaplain about what he hears on a day by day basis and you would have a different perspective of “overzealous” cops.

    —-

    I have a close friend who is a cop.

    He shares the same view on Cops.

    90% are too much. Not popular in HS, Mommy issues, picked on etc..

    Take it out on whoever they can.

  628. The_Judge37 Says:

    90% are too much. Not popular in HS, Mommy issues, picked on etc..
    —–

    This is true. Also many are actually wanna be gangsters who didn’t have the heart to go street.

  629. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Cops are needed.

    So are firefighters. Never met a rude firefighter.

  630. DMAC Says:

    DMAC Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:07 am

    Morning/afternoon peoples!

    Call me The Lorax, cuz I speak for the trees!
    What up Green Party?!
    ========

    Well then…..

    FK u guys 2 and the police!!!

  631. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Raiders 0-KC 28
    Bush 17 carries for 99 yards = 5.823 YPC
    Down 14-0 in the first and 21-0 in 3rd

    **********************************

    We scored zero points and you are hitting me with YPC?

    Looking at the play-by-play, with the score 14-0, we had it 1st and goal from the 5.

    4 straight runs to Bush, no TD, turnover.

  632. dr_robert Says:

    In Sunnyvale, the cops ARE the firefighters. Very low crime. And they are still azz holes at times.

  633. edward teach Says:

    I have personally witnessed a cop lie under oath to get a favorable ruling.

    I have personally witnessed a cop threaten to present false evidence against someone.

    I have personally witnessed a cop physically assault someone that had zero intention of impeding him in his duty, and charge that person with assault.

    Don’t talk to me about there being no such thing as overzealous cops. I don’t buy it.

  634. Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:

    This post keeps getting longer and longer in my head, so I’ll cut to the chase.
    Who’d take Seymour back for a reasonable price? I don’t think any team’s gonna pay too much, knowing his limitations. Anyway, I would.

  635. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:17 am
    This post keeps getting longer and longer in my head, so I’ll cut to the chase.
    Who’d take Seymour back for a reasonable price? I don’t think any team’s gonna pay too much, knowing his limitations. Anyway, I would.

    —-

    For the vet minimum, sure. Would help with out 3-4 transformation.

    Dont see it happening though.

  636. dr_robert Says:

    Judge–it takes no “heart” to be a street thug. That’s a really cowardly say out. Gangsters are true cowards. Don’t have the balls or brains to do something good and honest.

  637. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Cops are needed.

    So are firefighters. Never met a rude firefighter.

    *****************************

    LOL

    Fire fighters are the most worthless public officials there is.

    Nothing catches on fire anymore, they are only needed for EMT situations.

    With their 24 hour shifts, we pay them OT to sleep, every week. Whenver I go visit fire stations for my job, they are cooking in the kitchen watching movies.

  638. DMAC Says:

    Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:17 am

    This post keeps getting longer and longer in my head, so I’ll cut to the chase.
    Who’d take Seymour back for a reasonable price? I don’t think any team’s gonna pay too much, knowing his limitations. Anyway, I would.
    =======

    Who’s D!ck Seymour?
    I thought he got cut 2 seasons ago.

  639. dr_robert Says:

    I have always said kelly and Seymour are good. If he’s healthy, I would take him back at a reasonable cost.

  640. Raider O Says:

    I was a passenger in old car with a female driver. We got stopped and two pigs approached us. One pig on each side. I grief to tell the pig the window wasn’t working, but he kept acting confused, so I tried to open the door, and that MFer kicked shut. I was about to get out of the car, but the female kept asking to me relax because she was scared. The other pig tried to defend their position and apologized.

    I hate CA PIGs!!!

  641. LA to TheBay Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 9:56 am
    The only reason there are “overzealous” cops, is because there are Grade-A douches like Rolando McClain giving them attitude all the time.
    ————-

    Officer Vegas, even a broken clock is right twice a day.

    You’d figure you would have gotten SOMETHING right by now, even by accident.

  642. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Fire fighters are never rude, because they “Work” about 10% of their shift, get payed to sleep, have women throw themselves at them, and get to retire before they are 50.

    I would be pleasant as hell as well.

  643. dr_robert Says:

    Is missdick crying his little racist eyes out over griffin?

  644. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Never met a rude EMT either.

    Or are they not needed either..LOL.

    Nothing catches on fire anymore LOLOLOLOL… Classic

  645. Dakota Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:16 am
    Raiders 0-KC 28
    Bush 17 carries for 99 yards = 5.823 YPC
    Down 14-0 in the first and 21-0 in 3rd

    **********************************

    We scored zero points and you are hitting me with YPC?

    Looking at the play-by-play, with the score 14-0, we had it 1st and goal from the 5.

    4 straight runs to Bush, no TD, turnover.
    +++++

    The guy said we didn’t have a run game in 2011….5.8 ypc is more than adequate if you had a fking defense!

  646. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Wait, is JFB a cop?..

  647. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Again, go talk to a Police chaplain some day.

    It will blow your mind.

  648. Raider O Says:

    Tried*

  649. Bob Marley Says:

    Enough about the past.

    The big question here is should make our best effort to re-sign Desmond Bryant and or Matt Shaghnessy and can we afford to?.

    I would like to have both back, then we can start Bryant and Houston inside and finally move Shaugnessy into his natural position, LDE.

    Then we can draft Damontre Moore and make him our RDE.

    Provide the best 2 players in the Draft are gone (Joeckel-Star) as they should be.

  650. DMAC Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:22 am

    Wait, is JFB a cop?..
    ======

    informant??

  651. LA to TheBay Says:

    636.dr_robert Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:19 am
    Judge–it takes no “heart” to be a street thug. That’s a really cowardly say out. Gangsters are true cowards. Don’t have the balls or brains to do something good and honest.

    ———–

    Wrong and right.

    It’s weak sauce to take something that someone else worked hard for but it takes someone unafraid to take lives and do real dirt.

    You can call people cowards because of a flawed value system but the same could be said, in reverse, of the PD. Not all of them are heroes.

    Most of them aren’t. Power trip.

    Some are. I’ve met a few.

  652. Dakota Says:

    I have seen the police try and cover stuff up….forget to give important information to the State….

    Cops are humans.

  653. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    We’re going base 3-4.

  654. mcfadden20. Says:

    I hope Pete Carmichael sighting was in Oakland was for realz and he’s a real candidate to replace Greg “take a” Knapp

  655. DMAC Says:

    Bob Marley Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:23 am

    Enough about the past.

    The big question here is should make our best effort to re-sign Desmond Bryant and or Matt Shaghnessy and can we afford to?.

    I would like to have both back, then we can start Bryant and Houston inside and finally move Shaugnessy into his natural position, LDE.

    Then we can draft Damontre Moore and make him our RDE.

    Provide the best 2 players in the Draft are gone (Joeckel-Star) as they should be.
    ======

    I like…
    Pass that schit Bob
    Sign Avril or Johnson (Bengals)

  656. dr_robert Says:

    Missdick said these playoffs were his second best football experience after doug Williams. Well, first joe Webb set the wave of the future back ten years. Then griffin goes down and has all coaches thinking twice about their qb getting all the time. Poor black nazi. It’s all up to kaepernick (half white so he gets half the love from missdick) and Wilson.

  657. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    mcfadden20. Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:24 am
    I hope Pete Carmichael sighting was in Oakland was for realz and he’s a real candidate to replace Greg “take a” Knapp

    —-

    Wouldnt hold my breath.

  658. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Avril had a pretty horrible season, cant see him fitting a 3-4 either.

    Bengals arent letting Johnson go.

  659. DMAC Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:26 am

    Avril had a pretty horrible season, cant see him fitting a 3-4 either.

    Bengals arent letting Johnson go.
    =======

    Thats even better.
    We sign him at a lower cost.
    Not sure about the 3-4 just yet.

  660. Whoknows Says:

    There are definitely overzealous cops but just like any other job someone tells you to f off your not gonna be happy. Kind of like how you don’t piss off the waitress before you get your food.

  661. dr_robert Says:

    No OC from another team is gonna come here. It’s gonna be a qb or OL coach.

  662. No Mas Diamante Says:

    It’s too bad that RG III seems to be a little prone to injury. he’s fun to watch.

  663. mcfadden20. Says:

    D-Moore is the only guy can that can play both 4-3 end and 3-4 end and also lineup at OLB, J Jones is too weak against the run, he’s okay if you got a beast team that will be putting points on board, then you can ask the guy to just rush the passer every down, Star won’t help our sack numbers, Mingo is basically wimbley 2.0. Werner is too weak against the run and doesn’t beat double teams like Moore

  664. Raider O Says:

    It’s a fact the cops use excessive force and have abused innocent citizens before.

  665. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Wait, is JFB a cop?..

    ***************************

    No sir, but I manage many municipalities retirements in various capacities.

    I know a lot of my locals personally.

    Police have the hardest job in the country, and fire fighters have the easiest.

    From what I see at least. I have an appt with a cop, you never know if he can make it, might be doing an arrest, or serving a warrant, answer a ransom call.

    I can schedule an appt at 10am for a firefighter and show up at 1pm. Guess what, he will still be there, if he isn’t on “sleep” shift.

  666. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:28 am
    No OC from another team is gonna come here. It’s gonna be a qb or OL coach.

    —-

    No team is gonna let a coach who is good go.

  667. mcfadden20. Says:

    RGIII is pretty likeable guy and def better than Cam Newton and Wilson and all the other guys , m1st1cs constant agenda against Palmer made some guys in here hoping for failure from him, but i want him to succeed, i think he’s as good or better than Luck, they just have to scrap that zone read sh1t, get him a legit WR and see him roll

  668. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Fellas, again.. Why would a team let a coach who is under contract, and is good, go to another team?

    That is a logic fail.

  669. The_Judge37 Says:

    653.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:24 am
    We’re going base 3-4.
    ——-

    Hope not, it would open more Holes in the roster than necessary. Right now we have two holes at LB with Wheeler a FA, and only about 1-2 holes on the Line. A 3-4 would open 3 holes at LB, and assuming Bryant can’t fill in at NT, another on the Line.

  670. Bob Marley Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:

    We’re going base 3-4.

    —————————————————

    Well, I could see it if Star fell to us, then we have a NT and we let Shaughnessy walk and re-sign Bryant as a DE along with Houston.

    Burris and Wheeler as OLB’s with Miles as the pass-rushing specialist, we’ll need two ILB’s.

  671. Charlie Says:

    I liked Hue and Cable.
    They also had Michael Bush to run the ball.
    No one can argue that Bush was more durable and as a result more effective than Dmac.
    I am much more of a supporter of the banging type power running scheme.
    Bush, Hubbard, Van Eeghan, Wheatley etc.
    I think DMAC is an exceptional talent but he goes down pretty quickly with first contact.

    Again as both BCZ and Autumn Wind have stated, Bush leaving was a zero hit to the cap.
    Reggie wanted to keep him but could not afford him.
    DMAC has a huge contract with a big cap hit.
    We tried to make it work.

    Same with Seymour.
    There is just so much dead money we could afford.

  672. mcfadden20. Says:

    DAV, Pete Carmichael is free to go to any team he wants, his contract has expired

  673. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:30 am
    Wait, is JFB a cop?..

    ***************************

    Police have the hardest job in the country, and fire fighters have the easiest.

    —-

    Cops dont have the hardest job.

    The military does.

    And regardless the degree of hard work your job entails, you signed up for it and it IS NOT an excuse to be rude or abusive with others.

    Servants and protectors..

  674. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    mcfadden20. Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:33 am
    DAV, Pete Carmichael is free to go to any team he wants, his contract has expired

    —-

    Yep. As is Kromer.

  675. Raider O Says:

    Burris and Wheeler as OLB’s with Miles as the pass-rushing specialist, we’ll need two ILB’s.
    $$$$$$$$$$

    I think Wheeler is a better fit at ILB IMO. He is too small to be an every down 3-4 OLB.

  676. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Bob Marley Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:32 am
    DennisAllensVisor Says:

    We’re going base 3-4.

    —————————————————

    Well, I could see it if Star fell to us, then we have a NT and we let Shaughnessy walk and re-sign Bryant as a DE along with Houston.

    Burris and Wheeler as OLB’s with Miles as the pass-rushing specialist, we’ll need two ILB’s.

    —-

    Actually, Burris played more ILB in our 3-4 looks.

  677. qodrn1 Says:

    RGIII is going to have a short career. His already redone knee is being redone again with a ligament from the other leg. So, he will have surgery wounds on both legs. If the last one didn’t hold up, one wonders how they will anchor the new ligament (involves drilling holes in the bone). He was an idiot for playing on the rebuilt knee. This surgery works well for normal folks but athletes are a different story. He better save his cash.

  678. mcfadden20. Says:

    I doubt Pete carmichael wants to go back to the saints, after they didn’t even make him interim coach or assistant to interim, after the guy been looking to be a head coach everywhere, i hope Bears don’t give him head coaching job and Pete decides to come here

  679. The_Judge37 Says:

    Bob Marley Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:32 am
    DennisAllensVisor Says:

    We’re going base 3-4.

    —————————————————

    Well, I could see it if Star fell to us, then we have a NT and we let Shaughnessy walk and re-sign Bryant as a DE along with Houston.
    ——

    Why let Shaughnessy walk? HE’s not breaking the bank and would be a perfect 3-4 end

  680. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Any and all of our front 7 defenders ideally are going to be expected to be able to play 3-4 or 4-3.

    So i’d consider this before I suggested any FAs..

  681. mcfadden20. Says:

    If he wanted to go back to Saints, he would have already re-upped his contract with them

  682. MikieG Says:

    I have no problem with Cops, every single one I have ever been stopped by has been fair and reasonable..you know why? Cause I was fair and reasonable as well.
    Look, these guys deal with azzholes all day every day, you don’t think they find it a breath of fresh air when they don’t find a pr!ck behind the wheel? They love it and will show gratitude to you for it as well. I have tons of cops that are friends and family and they all say the same thing.
    Be nice and you won’t have any problems.
    Rolando broke that rule.

  683. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    The_Judge37 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:36 am
    Bob Marley Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:32 am
    DennisAllensVisor Says:

    We’re going base 3-4.

    —————————————————

    Well, I could see it if Star fell to us, then we have a NT and we let Shaughnessy walk and re-sign Bryant as a DE along with Houston.
    ——

    Why let Shaughnessy walk? HE’s not breaking the bank and would be a perfect 3-4 end

    —-

    Spot on. He has the base and strength to be a 3-4 DE.

  684. The_Judge37 Says:

    Another problem we have, and will continue to have, is ex military becoming cops. They’re allowed to get away with a lot of mistreatment overseas that they bring back here.

  685. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    mcfadden20. Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:37 am
    If he wanted to go back to Saints, he would have already re-upped his contract with them

    —-

    Not necessarily.

    Sean Payton does the coaching hires..

    He still isnt re-instated.

    So him or the Saint have no clue if Payton wants him back or not.

  686. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Cops dont have the hardest job.

    The military does.

    ***************************

    My uncle is an Alameda county sheriff, my brother is in the Navy.

    My brother has BY FAR the easier job.

  687. mcfadden20. Says:

    We will play 4-3-4 3-4-4 5-2-4, 3-3-5 3-2-6 , 2-2-7 – 1-1-9 , we will play every scheme this year, more than any other team in the league, DA and Tarver are going to get guys who can do all kinda things, this is why i think the guy will be Damontre Moore, who can do bunch of things and is pretty good at it, Star makes good sense as well but only if we were a good pass rushing team , which we aren’t so we’re going to get the best pass rusher in the draft

  688. The_Judge37 Says:

    Assuming we resign Wheeler and Bryant.

    4-3: Shaugn, Bryant, Houston, ???. Wheeler, ???, Burris

    3-4: Shaugn, Bryant, Houston. Wheeler, ???, ???, Burris

    Our line would be better at 3-4, but our LB’s are better at a 4-3. Who should be sacrificed?

  689. Bob Marley Says:

    O.

    Wheeler is a versatile player, should be useful inside or outside, I would expect him to land wherever he’s needed and likely bounce in and out depending on how the other 2 LB’s who we don’t who they are yet play.

    DAV.

    I would rather have Burris try becoming an OLB in the Clay Matthews (don’t laugh, just a positional compariso), Brooks Reed mold first, if he can’t cut it, see how he does inside.

  690. manassamauler Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:28 am

    No OC from another team is gonna come here. It’s gonna be a qb or OL coach.

    >> reggie will make the laundry coordinator the OC. because he’s a “blue collar” guy.

  691. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:39 am
    Cops dont have the hardest job.

    The military does.

    ***************************

    My uncle is an Alameda county sheriff, my brother is in the Navy.

    My brother has BY FAR the easier job.

    —-

    Compare their paychecks and get back to me.

    The military is risking their lives the same if not more for 1/3 of the pay local law enforcement gets. Thats a fact jack.

  692. DMAC Says:

    OC – Norv or Wisenhunt
    LB – Rob Ryan
    OL – Wylie
    SP – Schit! I don’t know

  693. papertiger418 Says:

    My brother-in-law’s older brother was a cop in Costa Mesa. Retired a few years ago. He’s a Grade-A douchebag with an inferiority complex who cheats at golf and treats his lovely wife (seriously, I have no idea how he bagged that) like sh!t. I never would’ve wanted to be pulled over by that guy, and I never would want to owe that guy a favor.

    As far as general experience, about 1/3 of the cops who have pulled me over or questioned me were a$$holes of one kind or another. They definitely take advantage of their authority, and I suspect the authority and the vagaries of the job tend to bring out the worst in them.

  694. mcfadden20. Says:

    Military is also staying away from their familier 2,4,6 years while cops get to eff one of the girls the pulled over every night

  695. The_Judge37 Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:39 am
    Cops dont have the hardest job.

    The military does.

    ***************************

    My uncle is an Alameda county sheriff, my brother is in the Navy.

    My brother has BY FAR the easier job.
    ——–

    Navy is like the Firefighers of the armed forces.

  696. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Bob Marley Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:41 am
    O.

    Wheeler is a versatile player, should be useful inside or outside, I would expect him to land wherever he’s needed and likely bounce in and out depending on how the other 2 LB’s who we don’t who they are yet play.

    DAV.

    I would rather have Burris try becoming an OLB in the Clay Matthews (don’t laugh, just a positional compariso), Brooks Reed mold first, if he can’t cut it, see how he does inside.

    —-

    I hear ya.

    Just lettin you know what he did this season.

    Wheeler was one of the most efficient pass rushers/blitzers in the NFL this season btw..

  697. mcfadden20. Says:

    The_Judge37 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:44 am

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:39 am
    Cops dont have the hardest job.

    The military does.

    ***************************

    My uncle is an Alameda county sheriff, my brother is in the Navy.

    My brother has BY FAR the easier job.
    ——–

    Navy is like the Firefighers of the armed forces.

    LMAO

  698. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    The_Judge37 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:44 am
    Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:39 am
    Cops dont have the hardest job.

    The military does.

    ***************************

    My uncle is an Alameda county sheriff, my brother is in the Navy.

    My brother has BY FAR the easier job.
    ——–

    Navy is like the Firefighers of the armed forces.

    —-

    Congratulations, you just won “Post of the Day”..

  699. Raider O Says:

    Trade down and draft:
    1- NT J Hankins
    2- CB Xavier Rhodes or D Amerson
    3- DE/ OLB Brandon Jenkins
    4- LB Andrew Jackson

    LDE: Houston
    NT: Hankins
    RDE: resign Bryant/ TK
    OLB: B Jenkins
    ILB: resign wheeler
    ILB: A Jackson
    OLB: Burris
    CB: Rhodes or Amerson
    CB: Adams/ Ross/ Chekwa
    FS: Huff
    SS: Branch

  700. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Tell a Marine that a local Sherrifs job is harder than his, and see if you walk away with all your limbs.

  701. The_Judge37 Says:

    Congratulations, you just won “Post of the Day”..
    ——

    Excellent, then i choose oatmeal cookie.

  702. DMAC Says:

    You guys are all wrong!

    The hardest job is in the world is raising your children!!!!!

  703. Marks hair Says:

    We take star and we can be multiple. Dts are historically risky top 5 picks though.. but if I scouted him hard and saw no red flags, I take him. 6″4 320.. with athleticism and a motor.

  704. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Raider O Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:45 am
    Trade down and draft:
    1- NT J Hankins
    2- CB Xavier Rhodes or D Amerson
    3- DE/ OLB Brandon Jenkins
    4- LB Andrew Jackson

    LDE: Houston
    NT: Hankins
    RDE: resign Bryant/ TK
    OLB: B Jenkins
    ILB: resign wheeler
    ILB: A Jackson
    OLB: Burris
    CB: Rhodes or Amerson
    CB: Adams/ Ross/ Chekwa
    FS: Huff
    SS: Branch

    —-

    Rather swap the 2 & 3 picks in that scenario..

    2 – Alex Okafor [DE/OLB]
    3 – Logan Ryan [CB]

    Both are better IMO.

  705. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Compare their paychecks and get back to me.

    ************************

    My uncle, deservingly so, makes more money.

    I am not anti-military dude, but the pay is not 1/3rd if you are comparing two guys with both say 15 years on the job.

    It is actually a lot closer to even.

    And why are you just lumping all military as risking their lives? My brother sits in an office in khaki’s.

    You want to do apples to apples, compare say a 101st airborne overseas with a SWAT officer in South Chicago.

    Comparing some police officer in Marin to a Navy Seal is just as inaccurate as comparing an Air Force nurse with OPD.

    Come on!!!!

  706. DMAC Says:

    The_Judge37 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:47 am

    Congratulations, you just won “Post of the Day”..
    ——

    Excellent, then i choose oatmeal cookie.
    ========

    How about an autographed photo of Daryl Blackstock??

  707. dr_robert Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:38 am
    The_Judge37 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:36 am
    Bob Marley Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:32 am
    DennisAllensVisor Says:

    We’re going base 3-4.

    —————————————————

    Well, I could see it if Star fell to us, then we have a NT and we let Shaughnessy walk and re-sign Bryant as a DE along with Houston.
    ——

    Why let Shaughnessy walk? HE’s not breaking the bank and would be a perfect 3-4 end

    —-

    Spot on. He has the base and strength to be a 3-4 DE.
    *********

    except for that little thing about making plays.

  708. manassamauler Says:

    The_Judge37 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:44 am

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:39 am
    Cops dont have the hardest job.

    The military does.

    ***************************

    My uncle is an Alameda county sheriff, my brother is in the Navy.

    My brother has BY FAR the easier job.
    ——–

    Navy is like the Firefighers of the armed forces.

    >> i served in the seabees in the Navy in iraq with marines. calling the navy EASY is not correct. go build 50 SWA huts in a combat outpost with people mortaring you. or convoy to fix a blown up bridge. Navy is damn difficult. be a guy working the flight deck on a ship for 12 hours a day. its not easy. being away from your family for 18 months. cops go home every night. being a cop is a JOB, being in the military is a complete change in life. it doesn’t compare.

  709. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    DMAC Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:47 am
    You guys are all wrong!

    The hardest job is in the world is raising your children!!!!!

    —-

    If done right from the start, its one of the easiest.

  710. papertiger418 Says:

    Speaking of military, anyone else psyched about drones? I can’t wait to see those little rascals being deployed domestically (freeway monitoring, high speed chases, raids). It would almost be worth sending a few to Tea Party territory, just to see some faux Minutemen sh!t themselves at the sight!

  711. jesusraiderjim Says:

    From what I see at least. I have an appt with a cop, you never know if he can make it, might be doing an arrest, or serving a warrant, answer a ransom call.

    ============================================

    Might be kicking down the wrong door with a swat team shooting a dog and making the 6 yr old kid sit by the dead dog while they keep searching the house even though they know they are at the wrong address.

    Then after that traumatic experience no one, even the judge is held accountable for serving the warrent on the wrong house and shooting the dog and traumatizing innocent children.

    Fvck the POLICE!!
    If the jobs too hard find something else to do.

  712. Bob Marley Says:

    Well, I could see it if Star fell to us, then we have a NT and we let Shaughnessy walk and re-sign Bryant as a DE along with Houston.
    ——

    Why let Shaughnessy walk? HE’s not breaking the bank and would be a perfect 3-4 end

    —-

    Spot on. He has the base and strength to be a 3-4 DE.

    ————————————————

    I think Shaugnessy is a great fit as a 4-3 LDE where he can match-up with slower RT’s in the passing game and use his size and strength to hold the edge on run plays, I would love to re-sign him to play that position

    I said let him walk if we go 3-4 because then Houston and Bryant would likely start at DE and I think Shaughnessy, while not breaking the bank, is going to command starter’s money as a FA and I doubt we can afford to pay him as such and have him as a rotational player, but if we can…do it.

  713. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    3-4 DE isnt about making plays.

    It about doing your job, taking on your blocks, holding your ground so the other guys can make the plays.

    Its why guys like Aldon Smith get all the glory until Justin Smith do the work.

  714. DMAC Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:49 am

    DMAC Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:47 am
    You guys are all wrong!

    The hardest job is in the world is raising your children!!!!!

    —-

    If done right from the start, its one of the easiest.
    ======

    U have kids?

  715. Raider O Says:

    DAV,

    I don’t like players from Texas especially in the 1st 2 rounds.

  716. dr_robert Says:

    Manassamauler Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:41 am
    dr_robert Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:28 am

    No OC from another team is gonna come here. It’s gonna be a qb or OL coach.

    >> reggie will make the laundry coordinator the OC. because he’s a “blue collar” guy.
    **************************************

    LOL. it won’t be a “name” guy cuz it would overshadow the young coach. no power struggles needed.

    it won’t another OC from a good team, cuz who would do that?

    it will be a QB or OL coach from a good system. an upward move.

  717. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Im not sure Houston is a 3-4 DE from the amount of times he was standing in our 3-4 looks this season.

  718. manassamauler Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:48 am

    Compare their paychecks and get back to me.

    ************************

    My uncle, deservingly so, makes more money.

    I am not anti-military dude, but the pay is not 1/3rd if you are comparing two guys with both say 15 years on the job.

    It is actually a lot closer to even.

    And why are you just lumping all military as risking their lives? My brother sits in an office in khaki’s.

    You want to do apples to apples, compare say a 101st airborne overseas with a SWAT officer in South Chicago.

    Comparing some police officer in Marin to a Navy Seal is just as inaccurate as comparing an Air Force nurse with OPD.

    Come on!!!!

    >> cops go home at night. i did tours in the Army and navy and you underestimate how difficult it really is. you get used to the military life but its a complete change in your way of life. cops go home at night and stay in their home towns if they want. no comparison. cops don’t go to Iraq. big problem today is cops THINKING their are soldiers when they are suppose to be public servants.

  719. Raider O Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:50 am
    3-4 DE isnt about making plays.

    It about doing your job, taking on your blocks, holding your ground so the other guys can make the plays.

    Its why guys like Aldon Smith get all the glory until Justin Smith do the work.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Ever heard of JJ Watt?

  720. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Raider O Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:51 am
    DAV,

    I don’t like players from Texas especially in the 1st 2 rounds.

    —-

    Lamar Houston, Brian Orakpo & Earl Thomas are pretty good :) ..

  721. Marks hair Says:

    grown men who want to carry firearms for a living are also power hungry àssholes…. wow that’s craazy. Never would have thought.

  722. dr_robert Says:

    i would venture to say it could be someone from green bay or denver, given the connections with allen and reggie, and the fact both are still in the playoffs.

  723. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Raider O Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:52 am
    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:50 am
    3-4 DE isnt about making plays.

    It about doing your job, taking on your blocks, holding your ground so the other guys can make the plays.

    Its why guys like Aldon Smith get all the glory until Justin Smith do the work.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Ever heard of JJ Watt?

    —-

    Yea cuz there are just a bunch of those caliber players..

    LOL.

  724. papertiger418 Says:

    DMAC Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:47 am
    You guys are all wrong!

    The hardest job is in the world is raising your children!!!!!

    ———————————–

    You’re right, of course. By the way, don’t ever read Pet Semetary by Stephen King. I just finished it last night. That book is designed to drive parents insane.

  725. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:53 am
    i would venture to say it could be someone from green bay or denver, given the connections with allen and reggie, and the fact both are still in the playoffs.

    —-

    Not if they are under contract.

  726. Raider O Says:

    DAV,

    LOL
    I’m sure Texas had more players drafted in the last decade than the 3 you mentioned.

  727. DutchRaider77 Says:

    717.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:51 am
    Im not sure Houston is a 3-4 DE from the amount of times he was standing in our 3-4 looks this season.

    __________________________________________________________

    Could he be the Mario Williams Elephant OLB on the Wade Phillips/Texans D?

  728. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    TEAMS DONT LET GOOD COACHES UNDER CONTRACT LEAVE!!…

  729. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Raider O Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:55 am
    DAV,

    LOL
    I’m sure Texas had more players drafted in the last decade than the 3 you mentioned.

    —-

    Of course, but those are the most recent.

    And I dont think any actual GM or scout stays away from a player due to the school he plays at though, ya know.

  730. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I am not at all anti-military, don’t want to be seen that way.

    Mom is one of 8 kids, each born in a differet state, due being in a military family. 5 of the 8 served. 2 retired as so. One is a cop/sheriff.

    But going to Iraq as a Marine and sitting on a boat in the Falklands is not quite the same.

  731. dr_robert Says:

    cmon guys. missdick’s job is the hardest of all. it’s very hard to do a paper route while all the white supremacists are trying to keep u down. plus, who buys newspapers these days?

    and then he has to devote a lot of time to explaining to all of us how the spread option works and what young black qb’s he’s been following since grade school.

    and this time of year, he has to put together his draft board.

  732. manassamauler Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:53 am

    i would venture to say it could be someone from green bay or denver, given the connections with allen and reggie, and the fact both are still in the playoffs.

    >. he’ll pick some unknown jacka** who works hard and knows nothing about using the players properly. hope i’m wrong though. the results thus far have been bad.

  733. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    DutchRaider77 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:55 am
    717.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:51 am
    Im not sure Houston is a 3-4 DE from the amount of times he was standing in our 3-4 looks this season.

    __________________________________________________________

    Could he be the Mario Williams Elephant OLB on the Wade Phillips/Texans D?

    —-

    Could. Sure..

    He has the hand strength to do anything though..

  734. Bob Marley Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Im not sure Houston is a 3-4 DE from the amount of times he was standing in our 3-4 looks this season.

    ——————————————————-

    That’s the issue man, to me, both Houston and Shaughnessy are better fits for the 4-3.

    Looking at what some of the young, high-motor, pass-rushing DT’s making their mark in the league like Geno Atkins and Henry Melton, I can see Houston having the same kind of impact with a full-time DT role.

  735. Raider O Says:

    Of course, but those are the most recent.

    And I dont think any actual GM or scout stays away from a player due to the school he plays at though, ya know.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    They don’t stay away from a player, but they have to do extra work/ research on some players because of their schools. That’s a fact.

  736. mcfadden20. Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:56 am

    cmon guys. missdick’s job is the hardest of all. it’s very hard to do a paper route while all the white supremacists are trying to keep u down. plus, who buys newspapers these days?

    and then he has to devote a lot of time to explaining to all of us how the spread option works and what young black qb’s he’s been following since grade school.

    and this time of year, he has to put together his draft board.


    HAHAHHA good 1 rob

  737. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    Man this clowns value keeps going more and more in the trash every day.

    What an @$$!!!!

    One of the small reasons I really do hate this team now. Can’t wait until we turn over more of these spoiled project players. i hope we turn over 70% of this team or more.

  738. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Sorry to take it all on a tangent, I would rather talk draft, lol.

    Just gets my blood boiling when people hate on cops, and then throw pillow-talk on fire fighters because they are “pleasant”.

  739. MEX_GHOST Says:

    DMAC Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:43 am
    OC – Norv or Wisenhunt
    LB – Rob Ryan
    OL – Wylie
    SP – Schit! I don’t know
    ——————————–
    Don´t worry DMAC anybody is better than the last SP coach.

  740. Marks hair Says:

    Reggie will be last in line again… im hoping turner falls thru the cracks

  741. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Raider O Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:57 am
    Of course, but those are the most recent.

    And I dont think any actual GM or scout stays away from a player due to the school he plays at though, ya know.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    They don’t stay away from a player, but they have to do extra work/ research on some players because of their schools. That’s a fact.

    —-

    Absolutely, but you cant say something bad about Texas when you have a Florida St guy in your mock…

  742. Raider O Says:

    I like Firefighters and I hate Cops. A lot of people do.

    Get over it!

  743. dr_robert Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 11:03 pm
    You people hate on RG3 to get back at Mistic?

    ************

    mmm. maybe a little.

  744. manassamauler Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:56 am

    I am not at all anti-military, don’t want to be seen that way.

    Mom is one of 8 kids, each born in a differet state, due being in a military family. 5 of the 8 served. 2 retired as so. One is a cop/sheriff.

    But going to Iraq as a Marine and sitting on a boat in the Falklands is not quite the same.

    >> Navy goes everywhere and It’s no cake walk working from what I’ve been told. i just don’t see how staying in the area grew up being a cop is anywhere near the stress level or difficulty of being sent to a hole in the ground away from everything from 18 months at a time with people trying to kill you. not to mention the life itself, constant alerts, field evercises, training, 12 miles of running per week. army is tougher than the Navy is that way. i just don’t see a Cps job as being that difficult. dangerous? yes but it a totally different game away from home. Cops are not soldiers.

  745. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:59 am
    Sorry to take it all on a tangent, I would rather talk draft, lol.

    Just gets my blood boiling when people hate on cops, and then throw pillow-talk on fire fighters because they are “pleasant”.

    —-

    Nobody in any profession has the right to be rude or abusive.

    Unfortunately there are some good cops who get the heat that the majority of the bad cops bring.

  746. Raider O Says:

    DAV,

    I said the 1st 2 rounds, and I have B Jenkins in the 3rd.

  747. The_Judge37 Says:

    Do we franchise Wheeler if needed?

  748. Marks hair Says:

    Take star and go 3-4. We dont have any 4-3 passrushers..

  749. hwnrdr Says:

    Kings going to Seattle? Whoops…sorry for the NBA post!

  750. dr_robert Says:

    Raider O Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:01 am
    I like Firefighters and I hate Cops. A lot of people do.

    Get over it!
    *************

    some cops are idiots. we all know this.

    but u have no credibility cuz ur a black guy who calls everyone racist on a whim.

    which is to say, ur probably a guy who dresses “gangsta” but doesn’t like it when people (and cops) assume he’s a “gangsta”.

  751. Marks hair Says:

    747. Fùck no!

  752. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Our current under contract DL:

    75 Brandon Bair DE/DT
    96 Christo Bilukidi DT
    91 Jack Crawford DE
    99 Lamarr Houston DE
    – Johnny Jones NT
    93 Tommy Kelly DT
    58 Dave Tollefson DE/OLB

    Our current under contract LB:

    95 Kaelin Burnett OLB
    56 Miles Burris OLB
    57 Keenan Clayton OLB
    50 Travis Goethel MLB
    49 Jerrell Harris OLB
    49 Mario Kurn OLB
    55 Rolando McClain MLB

    You can see where were going. [3-4]

  753. manassamauler Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:53 am

    grown men who want to carry firearms for a living are also power hungry àssholes…. wow that’s craazy. Never would have thought.

    >. somebody has to do it. if they didn’t do it you would be living under a totalitarian regime with no rights. you have rights because your country is strong enough to keep them. no other reason.

  754. manassamauler Says:

    naw man RM will franchise lechler not wheeler. lechler is a blue collar guy who works hard so he’ll get tagged.

  755. dr_robert Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:05 am
    Our current under contract DL:

    75 Brandon Bair DE/DT
    96 Christo Bilukidi DT
    91 Jack Crawford DE
    99 Lamarr Houston DE
    – Johnny Jones NT
    93 Tommy Kelly DT
    58 Dave Tollefson DE/OLB

    Our current under contract LB:

    95 Kaelin Burnett OLB
    56 Miles Burris OLB
    57 Keenan Clayton OLB
    50 Travis Goethel MLB
    49 Jerrell Harris OLB
    49 Mario Kurn OLB
    55 Rolando McClain MLB

    You can see where were going. [3-4]
    *************

    not really, since only bilukidi, houston, and burris, are assured a return.

  756. The_Judge37 Says:

    754.manassamauler Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:06 am
    naw man RM will franchise lechler not wheeler. lechler is a blue collar guy who works hard so he’ll get tagged.
    ———-

    True, but Shane was also drafted by Al Davis, so there’s a chance he walks.

  757. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Raider O Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:02 am
    DAV,

    I said the 1st 2 rounds, and I have B Jenkins in the 3rd.

    —-

    Drafting based on schools in certain rounds?…

    Sorry man, thats border line absurd. IMO of course..

  758. manassamauler Says:

    The_Judge37 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:08 am

    754.manassamauler Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:06 am
    naw man RM will franchise lechler not wheeler. lechler is a blue collar guy who works hard so he’ll get tagged.
    ———-

    True, but Shane was also drafted by Al Davis, so there’s a chance he walks.

    > i was being sarcastic man. if RM tags the punter he’s a running a clown show

  759. dr_robert Says:

    no baseball players elected to hall this year. hmm.

  760. tuckrulefool Says:

    JFB,

    So what credentials/schooling/training is needed to become a firefighter? Is it light the electricians union. ‘You need to know someone’ or be a firefighters kid?

  761. The_Judge37 Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:53 am

    grown men who want to carry firearms for a living are also power hungry àssholes…. wow that’s craazy. Never would have thought.
    ——

    I usually carry, while it can make you rather cocky, it also helps difuse situations instead of catching a case. Often time’s i’ll let dbags get away with certain things.

  762. tuckrulefool Says:

    oops like not light

  763. Marks hair Says:

    if we were in any real danger they would reinstate the draft and I would be a soldier too… and cops have never saved me from anything they just take notes after bad things happen..

  764. Raider O Says:

    Dr. Nob you were banned for posting racist crap, and that’s why most people here think you are racist.

    You are also willing to say anything just to get attention, and that’s why people call you an attention whore.

    You are a racist attention seeking whore monkey troll. Get over it!

  765. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    recently signs NT.. was interestid in Chapman last yaer.. Nah not going 3-4.. LOL.

  766. The_Judge37 Says:

    758.manassamauler Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:09 am
    The_Judge37 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:08 am

    754.manassamauler Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:06 am
    naw man RM will franchise lechler not wheeler. lechler is a blue collar guy who works hard so he’ll get tagged.
    ———-

    True, but Shane was also drafted by Al Davis, so there’s a chance he walks.

    > i was being sarcastic man. if RM tags the punter he’s a running a clown show
    ———

    Tagging Shane would be the best move he’s made. Plenty of teams have recently tagged their kickers.

  767. The_Judge37 Says:

    765.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:10 am
    recently signs NT.. was interestid in Chapman last yaer.. Nah not going 3-4.. LOL.
    ——

    Reggie also had 3 FB’s on last years roster, didn’t mean they were going to stick to running the ball.

  768. manassamauler Says:

    yep kings moving to seattle. kings owners will be lucky to not get shot up in SAC, better not go out in public.

  769. hwnrdr Says:

    I respect cops, but don’t like many of them because of thier attitude/demeanor when they have the badge on…I just don’t give any one of them any reason for them to suspect me of anything…

  770. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:10 am
    if we were in any real danger they would reinstate the draft and I would be a soldier too… and cops have never saved me from anything they just take notes after bad things happen..

    —-

    Well we have the needed man power in the military as stands..

    That cop description is ‘face slap’ true lol nice..

  771. DJ Johnny Says:

    517.guest123 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 9:18 am
    514. You have a colorful imagination. Where’s the fairy godmother in your story?

    Special Teams coach.

  772. Raider O Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:08 am
    Raider O Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:02 am
    DAV,

    I said the 1st 2 rounds, and I have B Jenkins in the 3rd.

    —-

    Drafting based on schools in certain rounds?…

    Sorry man, thats border line absurd. IMO of course..
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    I said:
    DAV, I don’t like players from Texas especially in the 1st 2 rounds.

    It’s not a strategy. It’s a preference.

  773. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    The_Judge37 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:12 am
    765.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:10 am
    recently signs NT.. was interestid in Chapman last yaer.. Nah not going 3-4.. LOL.
    ——

    Reggie also had 3 FB’s on last years roster, didn’t mean they were going to stick to running the ball.

    —-

    2 out of the 3 FBs are not traditional FBs..

    And formations and playcalling are 2 different things.

  774. manassamauler Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:09 am

    no baseball players elected to hall this year. hmm.
    tuckrulefool Says:

    >. Bonds and clemens deserve to go, dominated their eras. if roids made the real difference I’d be hitting homers too.

  775. Raider O Says:

    Still LOL @ Dr. Nob. He thinks I’m black.

  776. dr_robert Says:

    Raider O Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:10 am
    Dr. Nob you were banned for posting racist crap, and that’s why most people here think you are racist.

    You are also willing to say anything just to get attention, and that’s why people call you an attention whore.

    You are a racist attention seeking whore monkey troll. Get over it!
    **********

    ur a lying piece of sh!t and u know it.

    i was banned for making ridiculously over the top racist remarks, making fun of missdick and fangs. but u like to ignore this fact so u can keep throwing out the “racist” thing. which makes u a disgusting, cowardly embarrassment to ur race.

    i speak some the most knowledgable football stuff here. meanwhile, u continually make a fool of urself by repeating the “racist attention seeking whore monkey troll” routine, which shows u have nothing for me. just a stupid little “fan” with nothing to say, and not even a funny post here or there.

    ur one of many guys who gets ignored almost all the time. u use my name to try make urself into something.

    pathetic.

  777. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Raider O Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:13 am
    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:08 am
    Raider O Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:02 am
    DAV,

    I said the 1st 2 rounds, and I have B Jenkins in the 3rd.

    —-

    Drafting based on schools in certain rounds?…

    Sorry man, thats border line absurd. IMO of course..
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    I said:
    DAV, I don’t like players from Texas especially in the 1st 2 rounds.

    It’s not a strategy. It’s a preference.

    —-

    Copy that.

    I prefer anyone, from any school, in any round, who is good. LOL..

  778. The_Judge37 Says:

    A practice Squad NT isn’t a sign we’re switching to 3-4. NT’s also have a place in 4-3 lineups. Reggie just loves his practice squad duties.

  779. papertiger418 Says:

    My girlfriend likes firefighters, which means I hate them unequivocally.

  780. McClain arrested again (FEATURED LINK) | Raiders Central | Oakland Raiders Blog Says:

    [...] The rest of the article can be found here: Inside the Oakland Raiders [...]

  781. Raider O Says:

    i was banned for making ridiculously over the top racist remarks,
    $$$$$$$$$$$$

    LMAO
    You are retarded.

  782. Charlie Says:

    Given our cap situation some veteran guys will need to restructure or they will go with or without the cap hit.
    Guys like Bey and Kelly simply do not play to their contracts.

    Free agents like Lechler will have to take less or go.

    The best value is draft good players and get them with the rookie cap.

    Our existing linebackers get much better with a good Dline so I think DT then DE are a priority.(See what Te’O looked like when his Dline got pushed back).
    Shaugnessy will be out of the NFL next year.

    There is still the nagging problem of Barnes and Carlisle on the Oline.

  783. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Steroids wont help just anyone hit HRs.

    They will absolutely help someone who knows how to hit, hit HRs though.

    Will also help in lasting throughout a season..

    Long term body breakdown though.

  784. dr_robert Says:

    Raider O Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:15 am
    Still LOL @ Dr. Nob. He thinks I’m black.
    *********

    whatever u are, ur pathetic. u have repeated ur same little “racist attention seeking whore monkey troll” nonsense for weeks, hoping u could get attention. my football acumen blows u away. and u weren’t around back when i was rob raider, so apparently u are a cross poster, obsessed with talking about how i was banned, so u don’t have to face reality. just repeat, repeat, repeat, and then say LOL a lot like a hyena, so u can pretend u did something. ur like beech. saying it a lot doesn’t make it true. u know that right?

  785. Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:

    Bob Marley Says:
    The big question here is should make our best effort to re-sign Desmond Bryant and or Matt Shaghnessy and can we afford to?.
    ========================================================

    I’d say definitely on Bryant. Shonasty an enigma. After year one, those supposedly in the know said watch out for this kid next year and he did start out well for what? 3 games before the injury? Last year he was average which makes him a keeper comparatively speaking. Guess that’s why Reggie’s getting the big bucks, making the money calls.

  786. Raider O Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:15 am
    Raider O Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:13 am
    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:08 am
    Raider O Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:02 am
    DAV,

    I said the 1st 2 rounds, and I have B Jenkins in the 3rd.

    —-

    Drafting based on schools in certain rounds?…

    Sorry man, thats border line absurd. IMO of course..
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    I said:
    DAV, I don’t like players from Texas especially in the 1st 2 rounds.

    It’s not a strategy. It’s a preference.

    —-

    Copy that.

    I prefer anyone, from any school, in any round, who is good. LOL..
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    I have preferences.
    I would never draft a CB who runs 4.5s
    I will not draft interior OL in the 1st unless I had a good team loaded with talent.
    I like my CBs to be 5″11+ and run 4.4 or better
    Etc…

  787. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    The_Judge37 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:16 am
    A practice Squad NT isn’t a sign we’re switching to 3-4. NT’s also have a place in 4-3 lineups. Reggie just loves his practice squad duties.

    —-

    Disregarding the practice squad isnt too good..

    He signed a young player who plays NT.

    If he can play DT, great, would make sense… Since we are going to be multiple.

  788. dr_robert Says:

    Raider O Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:18 am
    i was banned for making ridiculously over the top racist remarks,
    $$$$$$$$$$$$

    LMAO
    You are retarded.
    *********

    ur incapable of deciphering irony. it shows how basic ur brain is. and there u go again. LMAO! wow. how clever. a little hyena keeps repeating how much he’s “laughing”. meanwhile, no one here thinks u say anything remotely funny or interesting. so just keep saying “racist”, “troll”, “LOL”, “LMAO”, etc. that’s for people with nothing to say.

    u would be better off just reading my posts and learning something. try to improve ur football knowledge a bit. ur outta ur league kid.

  789. dr_robert Says:

    Raider O Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:21 am

    I have preferences.
    I would never draft a CB who runs 4.5s
    I will not draft interior OL in the 1st unless I had a good team loaded with talent.
    I like my CBs to be 5″11+ and run 4.4 or better
    Etc…

    **********

    wow. fascinating. what a deep thinker.

  790. The_Judge37 Says:

    I’m skeptical of the cap shedding thing. Fine if they get it right then start using the money to get FA’s, but not if it ends up just funding Tommy Boy’s whiskey fueled cocaine binges.

    Sure Al’s way of pushing everything till next year put us in the situation we’re in now, but it never really stopped him from making signings. His problem was just bad choices in signings.

    I don’t see a point in settling debt when there’s no one comming to collect it. Why not just endlessly push till next year every year?

  791. manassamauler Says:

    hopefully the Queefs take Geno instead of Joeckel at 1. then the Jags take jarvis jones? if the LT is there at 3 OAK can trade down easier. Rams look like a partner OR even the cards. rams have a 16th and 22nd picks. would nice.

  792. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Raider O Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:21 am
    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:15 am
    Raider O Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:13 am
    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:08 am
    Raider O Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:02 am
    DAV,

    I said the 1st 2 rounds, and I have B Jenkins in the 3rd.

    —-

    Drafting based on schools in certain rounds?…

    Sorry man, thats border line absurd. IMO of course..
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    I said:
    DAV, I don’t like players from Texas especially in the 1st 2 rounds.

    It’s not a strategy. It’s a preference.

    —-

    Copy that.

    I prefer anyone, from any school, in any round, who is good. LOL..
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    I have preferences.
    I would never draft a CB who runs 4.5s
    I will not draft interior OL in the 1st unless I had a good team loaded with talent.
    I like my CBs to be 5″11+ and run 4.4 or better
    Etc…

    —-

    Nice..

    Although 4.5 is not slow for a CB with good technique..

    4.6 and up though I would agree.. Speed if preffered at the position.

  793. JLofty Says:

    There is no way on God’s green earth Phillip Wheeler will get franchised. He’s swell, like him, great pickup. He’ll get offered a 2 maybe 3 year contract for whatever middling FA backers go for in this league.
    Franchise him….

  794. Derek Says:

    Nolando needs to get out of that hick town. Most signatures can’t be read. Arrestrd for giving a false name, by some ignorant hick cop. Time to move on. Hicks hate affluent black men. Jealousy drives them crazy.

  795. dr_robert Says:

    pray tell, raider O. do also like qb’s with good arms, rb’s and wr’s that are big AND fast, good pass rushers, and LT’s who are good at protecting the blind side?

    amazing draft ideas.

  796. Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    i speak some the most knowledgable football stuff here.
    ======================================================

    I’ve heard that about you. A lot.

  797. Raider O Says:

    I guess Dr. Nob found another poster to obsess about. Should I feel flattered or scared?

  798. dr_robert Says:

    Derek Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:25 am
    Nolando needs to get out of that hick town. Most signatures can’t be read. Arrestrd for giving a false name, by some ignorant hick cop. Time to move on. Hicks hate affluent black men. Jealousy drives them crazy.
    *********

    so……it’s the cop’s fault.

  799. dr_robert Says:

    Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:25 am
    dr_robert Says:
    i speak some the most knowledgable football stuff here.
    ======================================================

    I’ve heard that about you. A lot.
    **********

    from me. a lot.

  800. SR Raider Says:

    The_Judge37 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:24 am
    I don’t see a point in settling debt when there’s no one comming to collect it. Why not just endlessly push till next year every year?
    ==============
    The reason this isn’t a good idea is that, at some point, the team will be close to going over the top, and may need to borrow from the future to get that one final piece. If the future is already leveraged, you can’t do that.

  801. dr_robert Says:

    Raider O Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:26 am
    I guess Dr. Nob found another poster to obsess about. Should I feel flattered or scared?
    ************

    moron. u mean nothing. u have been trying desperately to get my attention by calling me racist for weeks. u got no game.

  802. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    I prefer Jesse Chapman at NT, late first in a trade down.

    If your that tough, good, athletic AND lift 600 pounds..sign me up.

  803. Raider O Says:

    Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:25 am
    dr_robert Says:
    i speak some the most knowledgable football stuff here.
    ======================================================

    I’ve heard that about you. A lot.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    LMAO Llama Man. That’s funny.
    Don’t forget the QB list that he is fascinated by. Vick, CP, and Culpepper are better than Elway.

  804. shutdown Says:

    January 9th, 2013 at 10:55 am
    TEAMS DONT LET GOOD COACHES UNDER CONTRACT LEAVE!!…
    ______________________

    Yeah, like Al let Gruden.

  805. manassamauler Says:

    Damn Kings are moving,maybe I’ll just have to jump ship and follow the warriors. can’t follow an out of state team. fuk the lakers though.

  806. Raider O Says:

    I did my good deed of the day. I gave an attention seeking retard some needed attention.
    I’m done.

  807. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Dream scenario w/tradedown:

    1- Jesse Chapman [NT, Bama]
    2- Alex Okafor [DE/OLB, Texas]
    3- Kyle Long [RT, Oregon]
    4- Andrew Jackson [ILB, W.Kentucky]
    6- Joseph Fauria [TE, UCLA]
    7- Ray Ray Armstrong [S, Miami]
    7- Greg Reid [CB/KR, Valdosta ST]

  808. The_Judge37 Says:

    800.SR Raider Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:27 am
    The_Judge37 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:24 am
    I don’t see a point in settling debt when there’s no one comming to collect it. Why not just endlessly push till next year every year?
    ==============
    The reason this isn’t a good idea is that, at some point, the team will be close to going over the top, and may need to borrow from the future to get that one final piece. If the future is already leveraged, you can’t do that.
    —-

    Okay, that makes sense. But then you could also start trading picks if you get to that point.

  809. The_Judge37 Says:

    804.shutdown Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:30 am
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:55 am
    TEAMS DONT LET GOOD COACHES UNDER CONTRACT LEAVE!!…
    ______________________

    Yeah, like Al let Gruden.
    ——

    To his credit, he did get quite a bounty for Jon. It just bit him in the @$$, hard.

  810. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    shutdown Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:30 am
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:55 am
    TEAMS DONT LET GOOD COACHES UNDER CONTRACT LEAVE!!…
    ______________________

    Yeah, like Al let Gruden.

    —-

    1. He traded him for multiple picks & money.

    2. I said GOOD COACHES.

    ZING!.. jk.. But I was referring to assistant coaches..

  811. manassamauler Says:

    fix the oline this year go 2-14 next year and draft johnny football #1 overall next year. book it. just don’t let him run around too much.

  812. Seymour Bush Says:

    The_Judge37 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:24 am

    I’m skeptical of the cap shedding thing. Fine if they get it right then start using the money to get FA’s, but not if it ends up just funding Tommy Boy’s whiskey fueled cocaine binges.

    Sure Al’s way of pushing everything till next year put us in the situation we’re in now, but it never really stopped him from making signings. His problem was just bad choices in signings.
    ==========================================

    Actually it did. We couldn’t sign guys like Charles Woodson, Leroi glover, Rod Coleman and Zach Miller. It’s not just that he could not keep these guys, he could not afford these guys because of other wack contracts.

  813. manassamauler Says:

    The_Judge37 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:33 am

    804.shutdown Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:30 am
    January 9th, 2013 at 10:55 am
    TEAMS DONT LET GOOD COACHES UNDER CONTRACT LEAVE!!…
    ______________________

    Yeah, like Al let Gruden.
    ——

    To his credit, he did get quite a bounty for Jon. It just bit him in the @$$, hard.

    >>> i think gruden became bigger than AL DAVIS that AD got jealous. thats why he traded him.

  814. dr_robert Says:

    Raider O Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:28 am
    Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:25 am
    dr_robert Says:
    i speak some the most knowledgable football stuff here.
    ======================================================

    I’ve heard that about you. A lot.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    LMAO Llama Man. That’s funny.
    Don’t forget the QB list that he is fascinated by. Vick, CP, and Culpepper are better than Elway.
    *********

    too lazy to look up their career stats? just a loud mouth cretin “laughing out loud” all the time? do some real analysis. go look at their stats. compare them. don’t be the complete dullard we know u to be. too easy to fall for the “elway legend”. yep. just like the dope the media knows is out there in droves. and “laughing out loud” the whole time.

  815. dr_robert Says:

    Raider O Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:31 am
    I did my good deed of the day. I gave an attention seeking retard some needed attention.
    I’m done.
    **********

    get lost hyena.

  816. DMAC Says:

    4-3

    LDE – Sho-not-so-nasty anymore
    DT’s – Bryant and Houston
    RDE – draft pick

    LB’s – Burris, Urlacher, Wheeler

  817. jesusraiderjim Says:

    Here are the 7 reports of police misconduct tracked for Tuesday, January 8, 2013:
    ■Seneca County, Ohio: An officer was arrested, fired, and sentenced to 6 months in prison for stealing from the village while he was in office. ow.ly/gDJYv
    ■Vineland, New Jersey: An officer admitted to siphoning $40,000.50 from his union while serving as the treasurer, and then the president, of the organization. ow.ly/gDJ1m
    ■Grand Junction, Colorado: The Colorado State Patrol has agreed to pay $1 million to the family of a man shot by officers in his home. The ACLU director stated that not only did the troopers violate the man’s Constitutional rights when they kicked open his door, shot and killed him, but that the supervisors at Colorado State Patrol were responsible for “recklessly deficient training that was the ultimate cause of this needless and preventable death.” ow.ly/gDIzH
    ■Hampton County, South Carolina: A deputy was accused of sexually abusing a child while working as a school resource officer. He has been charged with two counts of criminal sexual conduct with a minor and misconduct in office. ow.ly/gDEZk
    ■Update: Irving, Texas: The Department of Public Safety has suspended a second trooper in connection to the highly publicized roadside body cavity search of two women. ow.ly/gC08b
    ■Newtown, Massachusetts: Three officers were caught egging the house of a police sergeant, who is their superior officer. ow.ly/gBZPI
    ■San Antonio, Texas: A police officer has been arrested after federal officials accused him of blackmailing a person with drug possession charges to obtain a $500 payoff. ow.ly/gBZud

    Categories: In The News | Tags: Police Misconduct News Review | Permalink

  818. manassamauler Says:

    Raiders should bring michael vick in to compete with palmer.

  819. The_Judge37 Says:

    Actually it did. We couldn’t sign guys like Charles Woodson, Leroi glover, Rod Coleman and Zach Miller. It’s not just that he could not keep these guys, he could not afford these guys because of other wack contracts.
    ————-

    There was no real competition for Woodson like there was with Seattle and Miller. Woodson just had never ending “Turf Toe” and probably some personal thing with Al. Miller still sucks so who know if maybe he saw something that was easily replacable.

  820. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    manassamauler Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:34 am
    fix the oline this year go 2-14 next year and draft johnny football #1 overall next year. book it. just don’t let him run around too much.

    —-

    1. Johnny Football isnt eligible for the draft next season.

    2. Clowney is the #1 pick next season. Hand down.

  821. Raider O Says:

    DAV,

    Jesse Williams?

  822. manassamauler Says:

    The_Judge37 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:37 am

    Actually it did. We couldn’t sign guys like Charles Woodson, Leroi glover, Rod Coleman and Zach Miller. It’s not just that he could not keep these guys, he could not afford these guys because of other wack contracts.
    ————-

    There was no real competition for Woodson like there was with Seattle and Miller. Woodson just had never ending “Turf Toe” and probably some personal thing with Al. Miller still sucks so who know if maybe he saw something that was easily replacable.

    > yea miller did suck. myers already surpassed him. charles woodson just need to get to play the ball more. M2M 100% of time isn’t good for highlight reels.

  823. dr_robert Says:

    Manassamauler Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:37 am
    Raiders should bring michael vick in to compete with palmer.
    **********

    no dog-killing psychopaths please.

  824. DutchRaider77 Says:

    807.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:32 am
    Dream scenario w/tradedown:

    1- Jesse Chapman [NT, Bama]
    2- Alex Okafor [DE/OLB, Texas]
    3- Kyle Long [RT, Oregon]
    4- Andrew Jackson [ILB, W.Kentucky]
    6- Joseph Fauria [TE, UCLA]
    7- Ray Ray Armstrong [S, Miami]
    7- Greg Reid [CB/KR, Valdosta ST]
    _______________________________________________________

    So to be safe you would advocate a FA NT signing?

    Like the Ricky Jean-Francois?

  825. Marks hair Says:

    807.. alot of things would have to go our way..

  826. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Raider O Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:38 am
    DAV,

    Jesse Williams?

    —-

    Yessir.

  827. manassamauler Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:37 am

    manassamauler Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:34 am
    fix the oline this year go 2-14 next year and draft johnny football #1 overall next year. book it. just don’t let him run around too much.

    —-

    1. Johnny Football isnt eligible for the draft next season.

    2. Clowney is the #1 pick next season. Hand down.

    >. he’s not eligible for 2014? think he is man. picking a beast DE is a good move if you have a QB. we don’t have that guy. manziel will get killed in the nfl if he plays like vick though. manziel plays at vick speed, crazy same size too.

  828. Raider O Says:

    DAV,

    I don’t think Jessie Williams is 1st round talent.

  829. DutchRaider77 Says:

    818.manassamauler Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:37 am
    Raiders should bring michael vick in to compete with palmer.

    ____________________________________________________________

    At what price? Think we could afford both Palmer and Vick? Wouldn’t you want to spend the money on a bigger position of need?

  830. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    DutchRaider77 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:39 am
    807.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:32 am
    Dream scenario w/tradedown:

    1- Jesse Chapman [NT, Bama]
    2- Alex Okafor [DE/OLB, Texas]
    3- Kyle Long [RT, Oregon]
    4- Andrew Jackson [ILB, W.Kentucky]
    6- Joseph Fauria [TE, UCLA]
    7- Ray Ray Armstrong [S, Miami]
    7- Greg Reid [CB/KR, Valdosta ST]
    _______________________________________________________

    So to be safe you would advocate a FA NT signing?

    Like the Ricky Jean-Francois?

    —-

    Bingo.

    As I have stated in my off-season layouts before..

    Jean-Francois is one of my FA targets for sure.

  831. jesusraiderjim Says:

    http://www.photographyisnotacrime.com/2013/01/09/texas-cop-fired-after-embarrassing-youtube-video/

    Here is an entertaining example of a “good cop”

  832. R8ER MIKE Says:

    GOOD AFTERNOON NATION !!!
    and my GarreenPty brothers !!!

    and while we are at it….
    Support marijuana smokers rights.
    FU*K THE STATE POLICE !!!!!

  833. manassamauler Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:38 am

    Manassamauler Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:37 am
    Raiders should bring michael vick in to compete with palmer.
    **********

    no dog-killing psychopaths please.

    >. come one man there were DOGS! ray lewis took part in a double homicide and people love that guy. its ok to kill humans but not dogs? Vick is cool with me.

  834. The_Judge37 Says:

    yea miller did suck. myers already surpassed him. charles woodson just need to get to play the ball more. M2M 100% of time isn’t good for highlight reels.
    —–

    Well we did use him a lot from the Slot and on Blitz, also at saftey so to say we just used him at Corner is false, but that’s where he was best at. His problem in Oakland was self admited in an interview he did 2 years ago where he said he was imature in Oakland. In Green Bay, aside from a chip on his shoulder, he said there was nothing to do in terms of night life so it kinda settled him down.

  835. manassamauler Says:

    DutchRaider77 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:40 am

    818.manassamauler Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:37 am
    Raiders should bring michael vick in to compete with palmer.

    ____________________________________________________________

    At what price? Think we could afford both Palmer and Vick? Wouldn’t you want to spend the money on a bigger position of need?

    >. i think Vick is better than palmer. just my opinion. Vick would come cheap after he gets cut by Philly.

  836. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    manassamauler Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:40 am
    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:37 am

    manassamauler Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:34 am
    fix the oline this year go 2-14 next year and draft johnny football #1 overall next year. book it. just don’t let him run around too much.

    —-

    1. Johnny Football isnt eligible for the draft next season.

    2. Clowney is the #1 pick next season. Hand down.

    >. he’s not eligible for 2014? think he is man. picking a beast DE is a good move if you have a QB. we don’t have that guy. manziel will get killed in the nfl if he plays like vick though. manziel plays at vick speed, crazy same size too.

    —-

    Apologies, thought you were referring to this draft.

    Either way. Clowney is the man.

  837. Marks hair Says:

    Vick and cullpepper better than elway.lol..lol

  838. Raider O Says:

    Long Live The ODB!
    Vote Green in 2016!

    What’s up Mr. ODB?

  839. The_Judge37 Says:

    C-Dub still has the best tomahawk i’ve seen since Lawrence Taylor.

  840. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Raider O Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:40 am
    DAV,

    I don’t think Jessie Williams is 1st round talent.

    —-

    “Dee Milliner, Chance Warmack, Jesse Williams, Barrett Jones—these are just a few dominant players who are projected to be taken in the first…”

  841. The_Judge37 Says:

    >. i think Vick is better than palmer. just my opinion. Vick would come cheap after he gets cut by Philly.
    ——–

    You must’ve missed his self proclaimed “Audition” game in the last week vs the reeling Giants.

  842. manassamauler Says:

    Marks hair Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:43 am

    Vick and cullpepper better than elway.lol..lol

    >> Vick is better than elway…PERIOD!!HAHAHAH priest genius. fuking clown

  843. R8ER MIKE Says:

    O !! whats up there mr V.P. ??
    just selling Toyotas one piece at a time !!!

  844. DMAC Says:

    ODB!!!

    Hapyy New Year brotherrrrrrrrrrrrr!!! (hulkster)

  845. poprox13 Says:

    manassamauler Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:37 am

    Raiders should bring michael vick in to compete with palmer.
    _______________

    Stop the insanity!!!!!!!!!!

  846. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    6′4″, 320, benches 600 pounds, NT… Yes please.

  847. Just Fire Baby Says:

    JFB,

    So what credentials/schooling/training is needed to become a firefighter? Is it light the electricians union. ‘You need to know someone’ or be a firefighters kid?

    ************************************

    EMT’s are a lot different, and to make Chiefs and Battalion chiefs you typically need a fire science degree (A.S.).

    I also think different states have different rules, but in New Mexico, you have to be 18, with a HSD/GED, no criminal record and pass the academy.

    Basically, it is harder to get a job in the planning department.

  848. DMAC Says:

    B. Jones is a beast!

  849. dr_robert Says:

    Manassamauler Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:41 am
    dr_robert Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:38 am

    Manassamauler Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:37 am
    Raiders should bring michael vick in to compete with palmer.
    **********

    no dog-killing psychopaths please.

    >. come one man there were DOGS! ray lewis took part in a double homicide and people love that guy. its ok to kill humans but not dogs? Vick is cool with me.
    ***********

    yes, they were dogs. and anyone who “enjoys” watching animals suffer has a serious psychological problem. it’s one of the first signs of serial killers. it’s heinous and shows he has no “empathy” for other living things. empathy is when u understand what another being is going thru and it hurts to know they’re hurting. when u stare dead-eyed at another living creature while it’s tortured, or worse yet, laugh and party while ur betting on the outcome, u have something dead inside u. God tells us we should be humane to animals. to do otherwise is evil.

    too many kids from the ‘hood with no empathy cuz they’ve been numbed to violence and suffering. it’s horrific.

    and i’ve not like ray lewis since his involvement in that incident.

  850. Seymour Bush Says:

    yea miller did suck.
    =================================

    Remember Miller had Jamarcus throwing to him.

  851. RaidingTexas Says:

    Manassamauler Says:

    i think Vick is better than palmer. just my opinion. Vick would come cheap after he gets cut by Philly.

    ————————————–

    They’re both mediocre QBs with one great season under the belt. They’ve just taken different paths and used different skillsets to get to the same end result of mediocrity. No reason to switch out mediocrity for a different form of mediocrity.

  852. manassamauler Says:

    The_Judge37 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:44 am

    >. i think Vick is better than palmer. just my opinion. Vick would come cheap after he gets cut by Philly.
    ——–

    You must’ve missed his self proclaimed “Audition” game in the last week vs the reeling Giants.

    >. that team had quit by then. he’ll be cut and would be half the price of palmer.vick has the talent and if the raiders go back to a vertical offense it would be gold.

  853. The_Judge37 Says:

    846.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:46 am
    6′4″, 320, benches 600 pounds, NT… Yes please.
    ——–

    You sound like Al himself

  854. Raider O Says:

    Milliner and Warmack, and maybe Jones in the 1st.
    Williams? 2nd

    IMO

  855. Just Fire Baby Says:

    JFF is eligible for the draft in 2014.

    The rule is 3 years from HS, so redshirt sophmores (what he will be after next year) are eligible.

  856. dr_robert Says:

    Marks Hair Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:43 am
    Vick and cullpepper better than elway.lol..lol
    **********

    don’t :laugh out loud” until u know what ur talking about. look up their career stats. compare them. enlighten urself. bet ur surprised when u see facts and not “legend”.

  857. Charlie Says:

    The cap shedding philosophy is in place only because we have very few players on the roster earning their bloated contracts.
    Reggie is simply looking at film and production and comparing what we are paying for what we are getting relative to what our competition is paying.

    As Reggie said; “We have some contracts that are way out of whack”.

    If we had seven all pro’s and we were 12-4 being $5 million over the cap is tolerable.

    RELATIVE TO OUR ON FIELD TALENT WE OUGHT TO BE ABOUT $20 MILLION UNDER THE CAP AT THIS TIME.

    Many of you also opined the last few years that we had too many old Raiders on the staff and we needed a fresh perspective so we could “implement up to date schemes”.

    Be careful what you ask for. You got it.

    Fresh perspective from the Saints, Broncos, Packers, Stanford and the Texans mean nothing if your talent is way below NFL standards.

  858. The_Judge37 Says:

    >. that team had quit by then. he’ll be cut and would be half the price of palmer.vick has the talent and if the raiders go back to a vertical offense it would be gold.
    ——

    Team quiting doesn’t excuse him wildly sailing a pass over the middle to the Saftey on his first series in Giant territory.

  859. manassamauler Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:47 am

    Manassamauler Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:41 am
    dr_robert Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:38 am

    Manassamauler Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:37 am
    Raiders should bring michael vick in to compete with palmer.
    **********

    no dog-killing psychopaths please.

    >. come one man there were DOGS! ray lewis took part in a double homicide and people love that guy. its ok to kill humans but not dogs? Vick is cool with me.
    ***********

    yes, they were dogs. and anyone who “enjoys” watching animals suffer has a serious psychological problem. it’s one of the first signs of serial killers. it’s heinous and shows he has no “empathy” for other living things. empathy is when u understand what another being is going thru and it hurts to know they’re hurting. when u stare dead-eyed at another living creature while it’s tortured, or worse yet, laugh and party while ur betting on the outcome, u have something dead inside u. God tells us we should be humane to animals. to do otherwise is evil.

    too many kids from the ‘hood with no empathy cuz they’ve been numbed to violence and suffering. it’s horrific.

    and i’ve not like ray lewis since his involvement in that incident.

    >> ever hear of redemption? Vick did his time. you probably idolize ray lewis and hate vick. Ray Lewis killed 2 guys, ditched the white jumpsuit and got away wit it. and because lewis talks about God and blah blah people think he’s a good man. Vick did nothing compared to that. i don’t get it.

  860. MEX_GHOST Says:

    jesusraiderjim Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:36 am
    Here are the 7 reports of police misconduct tracked for Tuesday, January 8, 2013:
    ■Seneca County, Ohio: An officer was arrested, fired, and sentenced to 6 months in prison for stealing from the village while he was in office. ow.ly/gDJYv
    ■Vineland, New Jersey: An officer admitted to siphoning $40,000.50 from his union while serving as the treasurer, and then the president, of the organization. ow.ly/gDJ1m
    ■Grand Junction, Colorado: The Colorado State Patrol has agreed to pay $1 million to the family of a man shot by officers in his home. The ACLU director stated that not only did the troopers violate the man’s Constitutional rights when they kicked open his door, shot and killed him, but that the supervisors at Colorado State Patrol were responsible for “recklessly deficient training that was the ultimate cause of this needless and preventable death.” ow.ly/gDIzH
    ■Hampton County, South Carolina: A deputy was accused of sexually abusing a child while working as a school resource officer. He has been charged with two counts of criminal sexual conduct with a minor and misconduct in office. ow.ly/gDEZk
    ■Update: Irving, Texas: The Department of Public Safety has suspended a second trooper in connection to the highly publicized roadside body cavity search of two women. ow.ly/gC08b
    ■Newtown, Massachusetts: Three officers were caught egging the house of a police sergeant, who is their superior officer. ow.ly/gBZPI
    ■San Antonio, Texas: A police officer has been arrested after federal officials accused him of blackmailing a person with drug possession charges to obtain a $500 payoff. ow.ly/gBZud
    ———————————————–
    Shít!!! This is a surpirse, even to me!!

  861. R8ER MIKE Says:

    Yesterday was a dark day for me….
    my wife broke my Zong bong !!
    i have had that thing for 14 years.

  862. Raider O Says:

    ODB,

    Keep up the good work. Toyota is killing it lately. Everywhere I look I see a new Corolla or Camry.

  863. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    The_Judge37 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:47 am
    846.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:46 am
    6′4″, 320, benches 600 pounds, NT… Yes please.
    ——–

    You sound like Al himself

    —-

    When your talking about a NT.. those qualities are hard to find in a guy who has played at the level he has.

  864. R8ER MIKE Says:

    DMAC !! whats shakin Mr President ??
    how the he11 have ya been ??

  865. Raider O Says:

    R8ER MIKE Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:50 am
    Yesterday was a dark day for me….
    my wife broke my Zong bong !!
    i have had that thing for 14 years.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    You let your wife play with your bong? lol
    I’m sorry for your loss.

  866. RaidingTexas Says:

    Dr_robert Says:

    don’t :laugh out loud” until u know what ur talking about. look up their career stats. compare them. enlighten urself. bet ur surprised when u see facts and not “legend”.

    ——————————

    Chad Pennington #13 all time. LMFAO!!!

  867. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I don’t really care about the dog-fightnig thing by itself with Vick, but I do care that he had just about anything he wanted in life and threw it down the tubes to do this nonsense.

    Got to say though, when in the SI article the other co-defendents talked about going to the city shelters to pick up “batting practice” for their fighting dogs, that wasn’t too cool.

  868. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    A NT in the SEC, practicing against Jones & Warmack everyday.. playing at that level..

    Cant miss.

    Hankins is the questionable one out of the two.

    IMO.

  869. The_Judge37 Says:

    863.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:50 am
    The_Judge37 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:47 am
    846.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:46 am
    6′4″, 320, benches 600 pounds, NT… Yes please.
    ——–

    You sound like Al himself

    —-

    When your talking about a NT.. those qualities are hard to find in a guy who has played at the level he has.

    We’ve found several similar guys like that. Turdell Sands, Grady Jackson

  870. manassamauler Says:

    I’m sure OAK will roll with palmer but they will draft a QB in 14….. PERIOD!!hahahah

  871. DMAC Says:

    R8ER MIKE Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:51 am

    DMAC !! whats shakin Mr President ??
    how the he11 have ya been ??
    =======

    I’m now known as The Lorax
    I speak for the trees!
    lol

  872. Marks hair Says:

    Nt rt and de are our biggest needs. I just hope reggie acknowledges them this year.. oh and wr of course..

  873. John David Booty Says:

    Marks Hair Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:43 am
    Vick and cullpepper better than elway.lol..lol
    ————————————————-
    Vick, definitely. He’s one of the best to ever play the game. So, I’ll agree that he’s better than Elway. But I’ve never seen or heard of Culpepper’s name in dog fighting circles, so I cant really vouch for him. But Vick Vs. Elway, I’ll take Vick every time. Elway couldnt hold Vick’s leash.

    Wait, are we talking about football?

  874. Just Fire Baby Says:

    But, Mike Vick sucks and is one of the most overrated athletes of our time.

    Right up there with Vince Carter and Sammy Sosa.

  875. R8ER MIKE Says:

    thank you O.
    he11 i have had that thing longer then the wife !!

  876. manassamauler Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:52 am

    I don’t really care about the dog-fightnig thing by itself with Vick, but I do care that he had just about anything he wanted in life and threw it down the tubes to do this nonsense.

    Got to say though, when in the SI article the other co-defendents talked about going to the city shelters to pick up “batting practice” for their fighting dogs, that wasn’t too cool.

    >. what about ray Lewis? killed 2 guys. everybody loves the guy. vick just isn’t an outgoing guy so people hate him. if vick talked about the “lord” and God.. BLAH BLAH people would be on ball sack. this country is gullible

  877. RaiderDebo Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:47 am
    yea miller did suck.
    =================================

    Remember Miller had Jamarcus throwing to him.

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    You mean Zach Miller?? The guy JaMarcus made a star out of and helped get paid in Seattle? Miller should be sending 10% of his game check to JaMarcus every week. Not that JR needs it though.

  878. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    The_Judge37 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:52 am
    863.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:50 am
    The_Judge37 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:47 am
    846.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:46 am
    6′4″, 320, benches 600 pounds, NT… Yes please.
    ——–

    You sound like Al himself

    —-

    When your talking about a NT.. those qualities are hard to find in a guy who has played at the level he has.

    We’ve found several similar guys like that. Turdell Sands, Grady Jackson

    —-

    Sands had the size. Jackson had nothing similar.

    Williams has the total package and had played at a high level.

  879. Raider O Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:52 am
    A NT in the SEC, practicing against Jones & Warmack everyday.. playing at that level..

    Cant miss.

    Hankins is the questionable one out of the two.

    IMO.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
    What??
    Have you seen the kid play? We used and abused this kid. He plays 99.9% of the snaps. He played NT, UT, DE, and he is a freakish athlete.
    This dude couldn’t beat Chapman.

  880. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Of the NT’s, I think there is some value with Jon Jenkins from Georgia.

    Weight and off the field issues will knock down his draft stock, but if we could get him in the 4th round, that would be awesome.

    He had “flashes” at times of being the best player on the field in some of his games.

  881. dr_robert Says:

    elway 51475 yards 56.9 comp% 7.1 yds/att 300 td’s 226 int’s 79.9 rating

    culpepper 24253 yards 63.0 comp% 7.6 yds/att 149 td’s 106 int’s 87.8 rating

  882. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    We have NEVER signed a NT who was 6′4 320, benched 600 pounds and played at an all conference level in a conference like the SEC.

  883. dr_robert Says:

    Manassamauler Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:49 am
    dr_robert Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:47 am

    Manassamauler Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:41 am
    dr_robert Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:38 am

    Manassamauler Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:37 am
    Raiders should bring michael vick in to compete with palmer.
    **********

    no dog-killing psychopaths please.

    >. come one man there were DOGS! ray lewis took part in a double homicide and people love that guy. its ok to kill humans but not dogs? Vick is cool with me.
    ***********

    yes, they were dogs. and anyone who “enjoys” watching animals suffer has a serious psychological problem. it’s one of the first signs of serial killers. it’s heinous and shows he has no “empathy” for other living things. empathy is when u understand what another being is going thru and it hurts to know they’re hurting. when u stare dead-eyed at another living creature while it’s tortured, or worse yet, laugh and party while ur betting on the outcome, u have something dead inside u. God tells us we should be humane to animals. to do otherwise is evil.

    too many kids from the ‘hood with no empathy cuz they’ve been numbed to violence and suffering. it’s horrific.

    and i’ve not like ray lewis since his involvement in that incident.

    >> ever hear of redemption? Vick did his time. you probably idolize ray lewis and hate vick. Ray Lewis killed 2 guys, ditched the white jumpsuit and got away wit it. and because lewis talks about God and blah blah people think he’s a good man. Vick did nothing compared to that. i don’t get it.
    ***********

    who said i like lewis? and vick did his time. so what? maybe he is remorseful. maybe not. i don’t know.

  884. dr_robert Says:

    John David Booty Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:53 am
    Marks Hair Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:43 am
    Vick and cullpepper better than elway.lol..lol
    ————————————————-
    Vick, definitely. He’s one of the best to ever play the game. So, I’ll agree that he’s better than Elway. But I’ve never seen or heard of Culpepper’s name in dog fighting circles, so I cant really vouch for him. But Vick Vs. Elway, I’ll take Vick every time. Elway couldnt hold Vick’s leash.

    Wait, are we talking about football?
    ************

    no way. have u seen elway’s chompers?

  885. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Raider O Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:55 am
    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:52 am
    A NT in the SEC, practicing against Jones & Warmack everyday.. playing at that level..

    Cant miss.

    Hankins is the questionable one out of the two.

    IMO.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
    What??
    Have you seen the kid play? We used and abused this kid. He plays 99.9% of the snaps. He played NT, UT, DE, and he is a freakish athlete.
    This dude couldn’t beat Chapman.

    —-

    WE?

    ahhhhh… I see why you like him so much now..

    I see Hankins as a strong run stopper.. but not so great in pass rush.

    Williams more rounded to me.

    But in a tie with ability, I pick the guy who benches 600 pounds.

  886. Marks hair Says:

    I watched Elway play back when teams were still allowed to play defense and he was dominant…. I’ve watched Culpeper, vick and cp3 have what? One or 2 great yrs against todays weak D…. its not even close

  887. The_Judge37 Says:

    Sands had the size. Jackson had nothing similar.

    Williams has the total package and had played at a high level.
    ——-

    I was just taking a shot at the listing of his size and strength. I don’t watch College FB so i don’t make any remarks or suggestions on players.

  888. DutchRaider77 Says:

    877.RaiderDebo Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:54 am
    Seymour Bush Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:47 am
    yea miller did suck.
    =================================

    Remember Miller had Jamarcus throwing to him.

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    You mean Zach Miller?? The guy JaMarcus made a star out of and helped get paid in Seattle? Miller should be sending 10% of his game check to JaMarcus every week. Not that JR needs it though.

    _________________________________________________________

    So Zach Miller didn’t have some clutch catches last week against the skins? He did lead the Hawks in receiving last week…

  889. dr_robert Says:

    RaidingTexas Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:52 am
    Dr_robert Says:

    don’t :laugh out loud” until u know what ur talking about. look up their career stats. compare them. enlighten urself. bet ur surprised when u see facts and not “legend”.

    ——————————

    Chad Pennington #13 all time. LMFAO!!!

    *********

    17823 yards 66.0 comp% 7.2 yds/att 102 td’s 64 int’s 90.1 rating

    keep “laughing”. u don’t know reality, just “legend”.

  890. RaiderDebo Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:58 am
    Manassamauler Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:49 am
    dr_robert Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:47 am

    Manassamauler Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:41 am
    dr_robert Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:38 am

    Manassamauler Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:37 am
    Raiders should bring michael vick in to compete with palmer.
    **********

    no dog-killing psychopaths please.

    >. come one man there were DOGS! ray lewis took part in a double homicide and people love that guy. its ok to kill humans but not dogs? Vick is cool with me.
    ***********

    yes, they were dogs. and anyone who “enjoys” watching animals suffer has a serious psychological problem. it’s one of the first signs of serial killers. it’s heinous and shows he has no “empathy” for other living things. empathy is when u understand what another being is going thru and it hurts to know they’re hurting. when u stare dead-eyed at another living creature while it’s tortured, or worse yet, laugh and party while ur betting on the outcome, u have something dead inside u. God tells us we should be humane to animals. to do otherwise is evil.

    too many kids from the ‘hood with no empathy cuz they’ve been numbed to violence and suffering. it’s horrific.

    and i’ve not like ray lewis since his involvement in that incident.

    >> ever hear of redemption? Vick did his time. you probably idolize ray lewis and hate vick. Ray Lewis killed 2 guys, ditched the white jumpsuit and got away wit it. and because lewis talks about God and blah blah people think he’s a good man. Vick did nothing compared to that. i don’t get it.
    ***********

    who said i like lewis? and vick did his time. so what? maybe he is remorseful. maybe not. i don’t know.

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Would have a tougher time with Vick’s actions if he were fighting chihuahuas or something. But pit bulls??? Have you seen what those things have done to HUMANS?? The U.K. got it right banning those things. Vick made the world a safer place.

  891. SR Raider Says:

    Culpepper and Vick? You’ve got to be kidding. Pryor is the guy if you want a running QB

  892. RaiderDebo Says:

    DutchRaider77 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:01 pm
    877.RaiderDebo Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:54 am
    Seymour Bush Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:47 am
    yea miller did suck.
    =================================

    Remember Miller had Jamarcus throwing to him.

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    You mean Zach Miller?? The guy JaMarcus made a star out of and helped get paid in Seattle? Miller should be sending 10% of his game check to JaMarcus every week. Not that JR needs it though.

    _________________________________________________________

    So Zach Miller didn’t have some clutch catches last week against the skins? He did lead the Hawks in receiving last week…

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Ummm, yeah. So what’s your point?

  893. Marks hair Says:

    51000yds to 24000yds… guess who had a short career? B Elway was clearly better..

  894. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    For the Oakland Raiders, Jesse Williams is the better choice IMO.

    More athletic & stronger.

    Respect yours though O.

  895. dr_robert Says:

    Marks Hair Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:00 pm
    I watched Elway play back when teams were still allowed to play defense and he was dominant…. I’ve watched Culpeper, vick and cp3 have what? One or 2 great yrs against todays weak D…. its not even close
    **********

    not reality. just “legend”. take the time to look at the stats. ur foggy memory clouds things. elway threw for 20+ td’s 2 times in his first 11 years.

  896. Just Fire Baby Says:

    what about ray Lewis? killed 2 guys. everybody loves the guy

    ************************

    Ray-Ray was lucky the Atlanta DA completely blew that trial trying to pin the murders on him.

    They could have got the real murderers convicted easier, and still slapped some lower-tier felonies on him, and he may have been never heard from again in the NFL.

    He got so incredibly lucky.

  897. dr_robert Says:

    elway had a qb rating over 90 twice in his career.

  898. dr_robert Says:

    Marks Hair Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:04 pm
    51000yds to 24000yds… guess who had a short career? B Elway was clearly better..
    ********

    a long career makes u better? just healthier.

  899. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Oh please.. stop with the QB rating.

    Im begging you.

  900. Marks hair Says:

    I hate elway.. stop making me defend him from your ridiculous points of view..

  901. RaidingTexas Says:

    Dr_robert Says:

    keep “laughing”. u don’t know reality, just “legend”.

    ——————————————–

    Legend has it that Elway won two Super Bowl titles in four appearances.

  902. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Elway was a Raider at heart.

    Al knew it.

    The Raiderette he married knows it.

  903. dr_robert Says:

    Marks Hair Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:04 pm
    51000yds to 24000yds… guess who had a short career? B Elway was clearly better..

    **********

    so, i guess fred taylor (11,695 yards rushing) was better than bo jackson (2782).

    do u believe these things or even think them thru?

  904. dr_robert Says:

    RaidingTexas Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:08 pm
    Dr_robert Says:

    keep “laughing”. u don’t know reality, just “legend”.

    ——————————————–

    Legend has it that Elway won two Super Bowl titles in four appearances.
    ********

    legend would be wrong. he never won a super bowl. the broncos did.

  905. Marks hair Says:

    his first years came in the 80’s… rookies didn’t throw for 4000 yards every year back then.. its a passing league now.

  906. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I remeber when JLH threw an incomplete pass one game, and that resulted in his QB rating like 38 something, which was higher than Jamarcus’ for the game.

  907. manassamauler Says:

    RaiderDebo Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:54 am

    Seymour Bush Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:47 am
    yea miller did suck.
    =================================

    Remember Miller had Jamarcus throwing to him.

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    You mean Zach Miller?? The guy JaMarcus made a star out of and helped get paid in Seattle? Miller should be sending 10% of his game check to JaMarcus every week. Not that JR needs it though.

    >. miller should get a award for catching JR passes since most of them were 2 yards behind him or 4 feet above his head.

  908. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Isn’t staying healthy kind of important when comparing two careers?

    Call me crazy

  909. dr_robert Says:

    elway 51475 yards 56.9 comp% 7.1 yds/att 300 td’s 226 int’s 79.9 rating

    culpepper 24253 yards 63.0 comp% 7.6 yds/att 149 td’s 106 int’s 87.8 rating

    Chad Pennington 17823 yards 66.0 comp% 7.2 yds/att 102 td’s 64 int’s 90.1 rating

    ALL numbers are in favor of culpepper and pennington. they were better qb’s on worse teams. fans generally thought of elway as a failure until shanahan got there. he finished strong. that’s the truth. not “legend:.

  910. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:12 pm
    Isn’t staying healthy kind of important when comparing two careers?

    Call me crazy

    —-

    Not when logic is ignored, NO.

  911. Marks hair Says:

    bo Jackson’s career ended because of injury.. culpepper in vick have been benched for being bad qbs.. or jailtime.. and yes durability does have a lot to do with greatness.. you can’t be great from the trainers room.

  912. dr_robert Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:11 pm
    I remeber when JLH threw an incomplete pass one game, and that resulted in his QB rating like 38 something, which was higher than Jamarcus’ for the game.
    **********

    proof that qb rating is a great indicator of who the better qb is.

  913. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Oh yea, well who has the highest Madden Rating of all time?? huh? huh?…

  914. bcz24 Says:

    I don’t see a point in settling debt when there’s no one comming to collect it. Why not just endlessly push till next year every year?
    *****************
    Show me one example of a successful team who employs this tactic. I NEVER worked for Al, so why continue it?

  915. DMAC Says:

    Culpepper had a young Randy Moss.

    I do give him credit for beating the tuna in South beach.

  916. Just Fire Baby Says:

    The only thing Zack Miller owes Jamarcus Russell is his concussion caused health sympton bills in the coming years for Jamarcus hanging him out to dry so many times.

  917. dr_robert Says:

    Marks Hair Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:13 pm
    bo Jackson’s career ended because of injury.. culpepper in vick have been benched for being bad qbs.. or jailtime.. and yes durability does have a lot to do with greatness.. you can’t be great from the trainers room.
    **********

    culpepper had injuries derail his career. he was putting up huge numbers until that.

  918. Just Fire Baby Says:

    proof that qb rating is a great indicator of who the better qb is.

    *****************************

    OK, well that was pretty funny.

    Well played

  919. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Cris Carter & Randy Moss in those years could make just about anyone look good.

  920. dr_robert Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:12 pm
    Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:12 pm
    Isn’t staying healthy kind of important when comparing two careers?

    Call me crazy

    —-

    Not when logic is ignored, NO.
    *********

    we are talking about who, when on the field, was the actual better passer. not who played longest. or who was the qb on a team that won the super bowl.

    who PLAYED THE BEST. all numbers say that culpepper and pennington were actually better passers than bucky.

  921. DJ Johnny Says:

    553.DKnight007 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 9:43 am
    514.DJ Johnny Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 9:16 am
    IF our new OC is one to get the most out of the players then the following could happen:

    -DMAC has a resurgence in production
    -Somehow Reggie gets a solid #1 receiver. It can be done. I don’t buy that it can’t.
    -With a #1 to throw too and Streator emerging, he has more targets who can catch the ball and make plays.

    Defense:

    -Last quarter of season unit was # 3 in the league in overall D. That trend needs to continue and with the # 3 pick most likely coming to help it only gets better.

    There. Fixed. 12-4.

    ^^^^^^^^
    The defense being good the last quarter of the season is mis leading.

    They shut out a team that was slightly worse in the Chiefs. That means nothing IMO. The Chiefs could have scored some FG’s at least in that game. They had no QB and their best WR was out.

    That was one game though. The D did well against Carolina, SD and Denver too.

    Obviously, i’m trying to be optimistic but I think too often we always look at worst case scenario with everything Raiders…which is understandable…I do it often myself.

    We always expect the worst; cuz that’s what we always get it seems.

  922. bcz24 Says:

    Ray-Ray was lucky the Atlanta DA completely blew that trial trying to pin the murders on him.

    They could have got the real murderers convicted easier, and still slapped some lower-tier felonies on him, and he may have been never heard from again in the NFL.

    He got so incredibly lucky.
    *************
    That wasn’t luck.

  923. Marks hair Says:

    why would people think of elway as a failure b4 shanarat? Like you said.. its a team sport.. he never lost a single game.. you have your favorites it’s okay.. but thank heavens the hof voters see things my way..

  924. RaiderDebo Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:14 pm
    The only thing Zack Miller owes Jamarcus Russell is his concussion caused health sympton bills in the coming years for Jamarcus hanging him out to dry so many times.

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Yeah, JR just loved “hanging him out to dry”, didn’t he? Makes me wonder if you’ve ever watched a Raider game before? LOL!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaDtDE5aypI

  925. manassamauler Says:

    dr_robert Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:12 pm

    elway 51475 yards 56.9 comp% 7.1 yds/att 300 td’s 226 int’s 79.9 rating

    culpepper 24253 yards 63.0 comp% 7.6 yds/att 149 td’s 106 int’s 87.8 rating

    Chad Pennington 17823 yards 66.0 comp% 7.2 yds/att 102 td’s 64 int’s 90.1 rating

    ALL numbers are in favor of culpepper and pennington. they were better qb’s on worse teams. fans generally thought of elway as a failure until shanahan got there. he finished strong. that’s the truth. not “legend:.

    >. really man? elway played in a time when defenses could play defense. WRS had to actually work to get open. rules changed 10 years ago. what these Qbs are doing now is no surprise when nobody can touch WRs OR hit QBS. nfl will have to swing back to the old rules or will become flag football. Elway,marino,montana,stabler all played in an era when defenses were given free reign to PLAY football. can’t compare to today.

  926. bcz24 Says:

    913.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:13 pm
    Oh yea, well who has the highest Madden Rating of all time?? huh? huh?…
    *************
    Jon Condo actually. He is a perfect 100 rated long snapper.

  927. manassamauler Says:

    bcz24 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:16 pm

    Ray-Ray was lucky the Atlanta DA completely blew that trial trying to pin the murders on him.

    They could have got the real murderers convicted easier, and still slapped some lower-tier felonies on him, and he may have been never heard from again in the NFL.

    He got so incredibly lucky.
    *************
    That wasn’t luck.

    >. yep just talk about God and the Lord and you can get away with anything. ray Lewis is proof of that.

  928. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Has the most yards ever.

    Has the most TDs ever.

    Has the most wins ever.

    Has the most MVPs ever.

    But what was his QB rating… LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

  929. bcz24 Says:

    If we are judging based on QB rating, then Ladanian Tomlinson is the best QB of all time. His career rating is like 149 or something absurd.

  930. dr_robert Says:

    Marks Hair Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:09 pm
    his first years came in the 80’s… rookies didn’t throw for 4000 yards every year back then.. its a passing league now.
    *********

    true enuff. but how about yards pr attempt? that’s my actual favorite qb stat. it’s simple. tell me how many yards i’m gonna get if i throw it 20 times with qb A versus qb B. very simple.

    culpepper would get me 152 yards.

    pennington would get me 144 yards.

    elway would get me 142 yards.

    elway was seen as a disappointment by many, including dan reeves. many wr’s said he threw too hard when he didn’t have to, showing off his arm strength and resulting in the “elway cross”, a mark on their bodies in the shape of the seams of the ball. shanahan, and his running game, helped elway become a “legend”.

  931. John David Booty Says:

    1983 NFL Draft – Rumored John Elway/#1 Pick Trades

    Before the 1983 NFL draft, John Elway told the Baltimore Colts (owners of the NFL’s #1 pick) not to select him. That’s because Elway wanted to play for a team located on the west coast, and if he was selected by the Colts, he insinuated he might abandon football, and pursuit a career in baseball. In the end the Colts selected Elway, but soon after traded him to the Denver Broncos. The rest is history.

    With Elway’s strong statements before the draft, it appeared to the major media that the Colts would trade the #1 pick, thus trading the rights to select Elway. The Los Angeles Raiders and San Diego Chargers were two teams mentioned as likely candidates to win the Elway sweepstakes.

    The San Diego Chargers owned three picks in the first round, and were having difficulty signing All-Pro QB Dan Fouts to a new contract. The Raiders had a solid veteran QB in Jim Plunkett, but Al Davis always liked to make a splash at the draft.

    The Baltimore Colts were willing to trade the #1 pick/Elway to the San Diego Chargers for all three of the Chargers first round picks, but the Chargers were unwilling to give up the 5th overall selection. Perhaps if the Chargers hadn’t signed Dan Fouts to a new contract the night before, the Chargers might have been more willing to give up that 5th overall pick.

    There were a number of different rumored trade offers from the Raiders. One scenario stated the Raiders were offering a number of top picks in the 1983 and 1984 drafts, as well as former first round selection QB Marc Wilson. Another rumor mentioned that the Raiders would consider trading future Hall of Famer RB Marcus Allen. Lastly it was also rumored that the Raiders were attempting to attain first round selections, in order to trade them for Elway. Reportedly the Raiders were offering RB Kenny King, G Mickey Marvin, and future Hall of Fame DE Howie Long, to the Chicago Bears (6th pick) or the Philadelphia Eagles (8th) pick.

    The Dallas Cowboys were also rumored as being interested in Elway. It was rumored that the Cowboys offered the Colts their top selection in the 1983 draft (23rd overall), and a number of veteran players, possibly including QB Danny White, and DT Randy White.

    Lastly despite Elway’s request to play for a team on the west coast, the New England Patriots were supposedly highly interested in selecting Elway. It was rumored that the Patriots would offer the Colts, their first round selections in 1983, 84, and 85, as well as a veteran player or another top selection.

    In the end the Denver Broncos were truly the dark horse candidate to get John Elway, and made out the best.

    In hindsight the Chargers should have traded all three first round selections for Elway. The Chargers did pick up three solid players with their picks, with LB Billy Ray Smith, RB Gary Anderson, and DB Gill Byrd. However none of those players had Hall of Fame careers.

    The Cowboys also should have offered a bit more for Elway. Although if they did, I’m sure the team wouldn’t have gone through the collapse they did in 1988 and 1989, which ultimately led to the birth of a dynasty. Who knows if it was even nothing more than a remote possibility, but the Patriots also should have made more of an effort to get Elway.

    Meanwhile it’s debatable whether the Raiders made the right decision by not trading for Elway. The Raiders would go on to win the Super Bowl in 1983. Without Marcus Allen and/or Howie Long, that probably doesn’t happen. However I’m sure the Raiders would have loved to have had Elway at QB with some of their more talented teams in the early 1990’s.

    Lastly the Colts would have been better off taking trade offers from any of the rumored trades, before actually selecting Elway. Once they selected Elway, and he refused to play for them, their bargaining power was reduced significantly. In the end the Colts picked up an unproductive QB in Mark Herrmann, a talented tackle, albeit not a Hall of Famer in Chris Hinton, and a first round selection in the 1984 draft (used on G Ron Solt).

  932. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Yeah, JR just loved “hanging him out to dry”, didn’t he?

    ****************************

    I don’t know if he loved to do it or not, but he did DO IT.

    Or did you not watch any games from 2009, when Miller suffered two concussions and looked punchy the whole season when he got up from bailing out another Jamarcus wobbler?

  933. R8ER MIKE Says:

    Lorax President of the GreenParty !!
    has a nice ring to it.
    long live President Lorax !!!
    and his V.P. Mr O !!!

  934. dr_robert Says:

    Marks Hair Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:16 pm
    why would people think of elway as a failure b4 shanarat? Like you said.. its a team sport.. he never lost a single game.. you have your favorites it’s okay.. but thank heavens the hof voters see things my way..
    ************

    who said anything about favorites? i’m comparing numbers. raw numbers. players should be judged by how they stacked up in their era. i never said elway wasn’t great. i said culpepper and pennington threw more efficiently. it’s fact.

  935. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Yes, I remember Shanahan and Terrell Davis in the highlights of “the drive” vs Clevelenad… oh wait… they werent there.

  936. dr_robert Says:

    Marks Hair Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:16 pm
    why would people think of elway as a failure b4 shanarat? Like you said.. its a team sport.. he never lost a single game.. you have your favorites it’s okay.. but thank heavens the hof voters see things my way..
    ********

    and he was seen as a disappointment cuz his numbers weren’t that great and they weren’t winning super bowls. shows u what fans know.

  937. RaiderDebo Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:22 pm
    Yeah, JR just loved “hanging him out to dry”, didn’t he?

    ****************************

    I don’t know if he loved to do it or not, but he did DO IT.

    Or did you not watch any games from 2009, when Miller suffered two concussions and looked punchy the whole season when he got up from bailing out another Jamarcus wobbler?

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Which game/play?

  938. dr_robert Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:24 pm
    Yes, I remember Shanahan and Terrell Davis in the highlights of “the drive” vs Clevelenad… oh wait… they werent there.
    **********

    yes, he helped his team score a game-winning drive. it’s been done by lots of qb’s. it’s overhyped cuz of the spotlight.

  939. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Let’s see, Miller caught a bunch of balls from Jamarcus and got two concussions. Left the team, got paid, made plays in the playoffs.

    Jamarcus ended 2009 and………..is on par with Uncle Rico these days.

  940. dr_robert Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:24 pm
    Yes, I remember Shanahan and Terrell Davis in the highlights of “the drive” vs Clevelenad… oh wait… they werent there.
    ***********

    it was very well documented at the time that reeves was scapegoated for elway’s troubles and that shanahan was seen as the guy who finally got the most out of elway. it’s just history.

  941. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    What was Shanahans QB Rating at Northern Illinois?..

  942. dr_robert Says:

    but i hate elway. and the broncos. and shanahan.

    and i do like culpepper. always did.

    and i always thought pennington was underrated.

  943. bcz24 Says:

    At this point I would rather have Jamarcus Russell back over Rolando McClain….

  944. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    What about Chris Chandlers QB rating with Dan Reeves?

  945. DMAC Says:

    Is it April, yet?

  946. hwnrdr Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:24 pm
    Yes, I remember Shanahan and Terrell Davis in the highlights of “the drive” vs Clevelenad… oh wait… they werent there.

    Yes but Elway did not win anything until Terrell davis came running in…

  947. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    What is April’s QB Rating??

  948. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:29 pm
    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:24 pm
    Yes, I remember Shanahan and Terrell Davis in the highlights of “the drive” vs Clevelenad… oh wait… they werent there.

    Yes but Elway did not win anything until Terrell davis came running in…

    —-

    How many rings does Barry Sanders have?

  949. hwnrdr Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:30 pm
    hwnrdr Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:29 pm
    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:24 pm
    Yes, I remember Shanahan and Terrell Davis in the highlights of “the drive” vs Clevelenad… oh wait… they werent there.

    Yes but Elway did not win anything until Terrell davis came running in…

    —-

    How many rings does Barry Sanders have?

    LOL, if Elway was there in Detroit, maybe one or two as well…

  950. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Did Bobby April play QB at Nicholls State?

  951. Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:

    RaiderDebo Says:
    Would have a tougher time with Vick’s actions if he were fighting chihuahuas or something. But pit bulls??? Have you seen what those things have done to HUMANS?? The U.K. got it right banning those things. Vick made the world a safer place.
    ======================================================

    Wow, Debo! After digesting this pearl of wisdom I may have to revisit the whole Jamarcus debate. You could be right about that, also.

  952. hwnrdr Says:

    It doesn’t matter…Elway won nothing until Shanahan drafted Davis and ran wild! ANd yes, I hate Elway!

  953. Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:

    bcz24 Says:
    At this point I would rather have Jamarcus Russell back over Rolando McClain….
    =====================================================

    Nose tackle? Or is he too tall?

  954. guest123 Says:

    I lived in Colorado in the Elway years. Hated that guy with a passion. I got to see a classic game at old Mile Highon Monday night KC vs DEN Montana vs Elway. Walked right up to within a few feet of the donkey “el-guey”. I was celebrating when cool Joe won it on the last play. I still can’t stomach the picture of him.

  955. Marks hair Says:

    Now i know why raider o just keeps writing lol… trying to argue with someone who is this illogical is pointless.. you throw the short passes to avoid getting hits that would injure you and deraill your career by the way.. thays why he lasted.. smarter..

  956. DutchRaider77 Says:

    948.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:30 pm
    hwnrdr Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:29 pm
    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:24 pm
    Yes, I remember Shanahan and Terrell Davis in the highlights of “the drive” vs Clevelenad… oh wait… they werent there.

    Yes but Elway did not win anything until Terrell davis came running in…

    —-

    How many rings does Barry Sanders have?

    ____________________________________________________

    Even better, the year after Barry Sanders retired, the Lions went to the playoffs…he was holding them back, LOL

  957. guest123 Says:

    F’n El-guey.

  958. RaiderDebo Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:25 pm
    Let’s see, Miller caught a bunch of balls from Jamarcus and got two concussions. Left the team, got paid, made plays in the playoffs.

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    He definitely caught a lot of balls from JR which led to the FA deal and the playoff appearance. Off the top of my head, can’t think of a bad pass he EVER threw to Miller (the only DECENT receiver he had other than Chaz and Jerry Porter). Can you? Can think of a lot of good ones though. Here are a couple more.

    http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=jamarcus+russell&oq=jamar&gs_l=youtube.1.1.0l10.27016.29022.0.31197.5.5.0.0.0.0.82.266.5.5.0…0.0…1ac.1.4y0SHDBvXQ0

  959. dr_robert Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:30 pm
    hwnrdr Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:29 pm
    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:24 pm
    Yes, I remember Shanahan and Terrell Davis in the highlights of “the drive” vs Clevelenad… oh wait… they werent there.

    Yes but Elway did not win anything until Terrell davis came running in…

    —-

    How many rings does Barry Sanders have?
    ********

    that’s why ahmad bradshaw is better than sanders according to this board’s logic.

  960. RaidingTexas Says:

    Dr_robert Says:

    Legend has it that Elway won two Super Bowl titles in four appearances.
    ********

    legend would be wrong. he never won a super bowl. the broncos did.

    ——————————————

    This is a petty response over how the sentence was phrased, little man. We were talking about Elway vs Culpepper, not Broncos vs Vikings. Elway won two Super Bowls along with the other players on his team.

  961. dr_robert Says:

    Marks Hair Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:34 pm
    Now i know why raider o just keeps writing lol… trying to argue with someone who is this illogical is pointless.. you throw the short passes to avoid getting hits that would injure you and deraill your career by the way.. thays why he lasted.. smarter..
    **************

    so, u think qb’s who check down consistently are “smarter” and “better”. and i’m illogical.

    face it kid. i know far more about the game. LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL!

  962. hwnrdr Says:

    Wow…JR the Great…LMAO!

  963. dr_robert Says:

    RaidingTexas Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:36 pm
    Dr_robert Says:

    Legend has it that Elway won two Super Bowl titles in four appearances.
    ********

    legend would be wrong. he never won a super bowl. the broncos did.

    ——————————————

    This is a petty response over how the sentence was phrased, little man. We were talking about Elway vs Culpepper, not Broncos vs Vikings. Elway won two Super Bowls along with the other players on his team.
    **********

    u were suggesting, rather stupidly, and commonly, that elway winning super bowls made him great, and culpepper not winning super bowls, made him less great.

  964. inonewordraider Says:

    draft star and build around him:

    bryant star shaughnessey

    bryant star houston

    crawford star houston

    shaughnessey star houston avril etc

  965. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Avril is a no go.

  966. DKnight007 Says:

    Yeah, it is imperative that McK finds a trade partner to trade down with.

    I don’t see many players that a team will trade up to #3 to draft though, unless someone falls in love with a QB or Joekel.

    McK might have to accept a 3rd in this years draft and a 2nd in next years draft from a team to trade down….instead of the standard 2nd rounder in this years draft as part of the package.

  967. inonewordraider Says:

    if the draft were done over again, you still gotta take luck over rgIII with griffins injury history. love to see him play but worried this may be a sign of how his career will go

  968. DKnight007 Says:

    791.manassamauler Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:25 am
    hopefully the Queefs take Geno instead of Joeckel at 1. then the Jags take jarvis jones? if the LT is there at 3 OAK can trade down easier. Rams look like a partner OR even the cards. rams have a 16th and 22nd picks. would nice.

    ^^^^^^^
    I agree with that. It will a bit easier for McK to trade down if the LT Joekel falls to us at #3.

    Some teams may want to move up for him.

  969. DKnight007 Says:

    957.guest123 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:35 pm
    F’n El-guey.

    ^^^^^^^^^
    LOL!

  970. DJ Johnny Says:

    918.Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:15 pm
    proof that qb rating is a great indicator of who the better qb is.

    *****************************
    On the flip side of that how often is “perception” from media, fans etc. different from what actually is.

    I heard Peter King said yesterday that Chicago is a great destination for Bill Cowher HC becuz, among other things “they have a quarterback”. This from the same dikface who was ripping on Carson Palmer for being “done”.

    As i’ve noted a few times before Palmers numbers are much better than Cutler’s not only last yr but his entire career, AND Cutler has had the benefit of receivers like Brandon Marshall (a true #1 receiver) to throw to.

    That’s what I mean. The “perception” being that Cutler is still this semi-elite QB and Palmer is 45 yr’s old and on his last leg.

  971. inonewordraider Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:40 pm
    Avril is a no go.
    ___________
    i still say you start with star build around him. even if that means another year without a top tier pass rushing end. Moore is a stud and i think he’ll eventually add the bulk to be a 4-3 end but that’s not a given and as a 3-4 olb don’t know if he’ll be able to cover. Star is a sure thing

  972. bcz24 Says:

    RaiderDebo Says:
    Would have a tougher time with Vick’s actions if he were fighting chihuahuas or something. But pit bulls??? Have you seen what those things have done to HUMANS?? The U.K. got it right banning those things. Vick made the world a safer place.
    ======================================================

    Wow, Debo! After digesting this pearl of wisdom I may have to revisit the whole Jamarcus debate. You could be right about that, also.
    ________________________________
    He didn’t really say that did he??

  973. DMAC Says:

    If Joekel is there at 3
    Best believe there will be some wheeling and dealing

  974. DJ Johnny Says:

    963,

    This is a great example of the “Trent Dilfer is better than Marino” fallacy becuz after all, he won a SB.

  975. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    Since there is minimal Raider news to discuss I was just curious as to some of your superbowl predictions.

    Mine is Denver over Seattle.

  976. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Wait til the combine.

    Draft stock talk is void until then.

  977. DutchRaider77 Says:

    Pretty funny, they are talking about Elway/Davis topic on NPR and who deserves credit…

  978. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:47 pm
    Since there is minimal Raider news to discuss I was just curious as to some of your superbowl predictions.

    Mine is Denver over Seattle.

    —-

    Patriots over Seahawks

  979. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    why would DA fire krapp and ol coach if he wanted to return to zbs? its gone they are going power thats why DMC is staying…

  980. SR Raider Says:

    GB over Denver in the SB is my guess

  981. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:48 pm
    why would DA fire krapp and ol coach if he wanted to return to zbs? its gone they are going power thats why DMC is staying…

    —-

    DMC is staying because he has a year left on his contract.

    But yes, I agree with the coaching view..

  982. DMAC Says:

    Sea turds over the Pats

  983. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    NEW ENGLAND VS. SAN FRAN..

  984. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    MY original pick in august was GB/Hou but I don’t see Hou playing at an elite level right now and going to the superbowl.

    Had to go with the hot teams of Den/Sea.

    I’ve said this before but Oakland needs to model there team after Seattle IMO.

  985. DMAC Says:

    Anyone, but the Whiners and Pats
    FK them!

    And FK Donkey face and rat face
    Send their asses to the SPCA in East Oakland for all I care

  986. guest123 Says:

    I still think DA has a hardon for the ZBS. Just that he didn’t have faith in Knapp being the man to run it. I don’t have any illusions of an upcoming PBS system.

  987. guest123 Says:

    Green Bay over New England, take the points and the over.

  988. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    really think its going to be power…but now what to do with bergstrom, briesel and carlisle?

  989. Raider guy Says:

    There’s going to be a Super Bowl this year? Who cares?

  990. JLofty Says:

    No way the Seaducks get much farther. That Russell Wilson couldn’t throw his way out of a paper bag. That game against Washington was PAINFUL to watch. A good D will crush that kid and make him beat them in the air…(he won’t)

  991. John David Booty Says:

    Inonewordraider Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:40 pm
    draft star and build around him:

    bryant star shaughnessey

    bryant star houston

    crawford star houston

    shaughnessey star houston avril etc
    ————————————
    Replace Avril with Osi Umenyiora and we’re in business.

  992. DutchRaider77 Says:

    So I got a FREE ticket for Saturday’s game, Whiners v. Green Bay. Should I go in my Raiders’ gear?

  993. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    guest123 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:53 pm
    Green Bay over New England, take the points and the over.
    ——-
    NE has more than a legit shot of making it to the superbowl and if they do I don’t see them losing 3 superbowls in a row, regardless of opponent.

  994. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:55 pm
    really think its going to be power…but now what to do with bergstrom, briesel and carlisle?

    —-

    Carlisle is already done.

    OT in the ZBS usually translates to G in the PBS..

    Berg was a RT is college.

  995. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Osi Umenyiora wasnt in business himself this year.

    Pass.

  996. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    DutchRaider77 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:56 pm
    So I got a FREE ticket for Saturday’s game, Whiners v. Green Bay. Should I go in my Raiders’ gear?
    —-
    either that or make some $$

  997. DutchRaider77 Says:

    So do you guys think we are going to see lawsuits eventually against teams for not maintaining field conditions?

    Unsafe working conditions? FedEx field was pretty chewed up…OSHA inspecting the fields on Sunday?

  998. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    berg may make it as a rg…need to see him more physical though….

  999. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    I dont think our blocking scheme will be absolute one scheme or the other.

    Most teams run elements of both.

  1000. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Off the top of my head, can’t think of a bad pass he EVER threw to Miller

    *************************

    Shocking!!!

  1001. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    RE: F y’all McWhiff..

    To quote the famous shrimp catcher and chocolate connoisseur, F. “Bubba” Gump: “Stupid is, as stupid does.”

    Reggie can’t get a sack of potatoes in trade for that turd after this one. Just cut him already….

  1002. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    DutchRaider77 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:58 pm
    So do you guys think we are going to see lawsuits eventually against teams for not maintaining field conditions?

    Unsafe working conditions? FedEx field was pretty chewed up…OSHA inspecting the fields on Sunday?

    —-

    Already started.

    Houston Punter suing the field upkeep company.

  1003. DutchRaider77 Says:

    996.Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:57 pm
    DutchRaider77 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:56 pm
    So I got a FREE ticket for Saturday’s game, Whiners v. Green Bay. Should I go in my Raiders’ gear?
    —-
    either that or make some $$

    __________________________________________________________

    Yeah, I would. But my friends Dad has season tickets, my friend gave me the ticket so I could drive him…he is a whiner fan.

  1004. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    ex-Houston punter I should say.

  1005. Just Fire Baby Says:

    New England over Atlanta in a shoot-out.

  1006. R8drinOK Says:

    Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:47 pm
    Since there is minimal Raider news to discuss I was just curious as to some of your superbowl predictions.

    Mine is Denver over Seattle.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Man I hope not, I can’t take the donkies and alien head winning the Super Bowl. I think it’s the cheatriots and the packers again. Would like to see GB win.

  1007. RaidingTexas Says:

    Dr_robert Says:

    u were suggesting, rather stupidly, and commonly, that elway winning super bowls made him great, and culpepper not winning super bowls, made him less great.

    —————————————-

    I never said Super Bowl was the only reason he was great.

    Getting to four Super Bowls, winning two of them, #4 in career passing yardage, #4 in career pass completions, #7 in career TD passes, a 148–82–1 career record, and never having less than an 85 rating (your apparent be-all-end-all of QB greatness) during his final six seasons is what made him a better quarterback than Daunte. He did all that despite getting sacked more than any other QB in NFL history except Favre.

    I’m looking at the entire body of work. You’re using only QBR.

  1008. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    OC- Norv Turner
    OL- Tony Sparano
    LB- Rob Ryan

    My unrealistic wishlist.

  1009. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    Just to Clarify ..

    Johnny Football is eligible in the NEXT years draft.

    He is a Reshirt Freshman and acedemically a junior.

    1. Redshirt year, 2. RS Freshman (this year) 3. Sophmore..

  1010. DutchRaider77 Says:

    1002.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:59 pm
    DutchRaider77 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:58 pm
    So do you guys think we are going to see lawsuits eventually against teams for not maintaining field conditions?

    Unsafe working conditions? FedEx field was pretty chewed up…OSHA inspecting the fields on Sunday?

    —-

    Already started.

    Houston Punter suing the field upkeep company.

    _______________________________________________________

    Seriously Dude, you need a podcast or somthing…very well informed, you couldn’t be any creepier looking than Jason Lockanfora (crazy eye guy, sic)…

  1011. Try Some Reality Says:

    DutchRaider77 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:59 pm
    996.Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:57 pm
    DutchRaider77 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:56 pm
    So I got a FREE ticket for Saturday’s game, Whiners v. Green Bay. Should I go in my Raiders’ gear?
    —-
    either that or make some $$

    __________________________________________________________

    Yeah, I would. But my friends Dad has season tickets, my friend gave me the ticket so I could drive him…he is a whiner fan.

    ==============

    Go and root for the Pack. Just be careful to not get shanked!

  1012. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 1:01 pm
    New England over Atlanta in a shoot-out.
    ——–
    You really believe in Atlanta?
    I can’t see it.

  1013. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    OC- Marty Mornhinweg
    OL- Juan Castillo
    LB- Billy Davis

    More realistic wishlist.

  1014. DMAC Says:

    Dutch

    Just sell your tix
    FK the Whiners!!!

  1015. Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:

    R8drinOK Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 1:01 pm
    Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:47 pm
    Since there is minimal Raider news to discuss I was just curious as to some of your superbowl predictions.

    Mine is Denver over Seattle.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Man I hope not, I can’t take the donkies and alien head winning the Super Bowl. I think it’s the cheatriots and the packers again. Would like to see GB win.
    ———-
    If Denver does go to superbowl hopefully they get crushed!

  1016. RaidingTexas Says:

    Back-N-Black Says:

    Where are you in TX? I live in the Lufkin area. About 100 miles north of Houston.

    ———————————

    Missed this earlier, Black. I’m in Dallas. Been to Lufkin many times back when I was in consulting. I had a client in Nacogdoches. Lufkin was where we would go to try and find a decent meal. LOL

  1017. DJ Johnny Says:

    Debo has a point about the Raiders not helping or doing Jamarcus any favors. This DOES NOT exclude Russell from all he did and didn’t do but it’s a valid point.

    Look at how much $ is being spent on Palmer for his salary. With that much money at stake wouldn’t an org want to do everything in their power to make him successful? Of course they SHOULD.

    The Bears with Cutler realize they gave up a kings ransom to get him and they are committed to ensuring he has best chance to win for them.

    What do they do? They fire the QB coach and get Cutler’s guy from Denver first off. Then..they fire Martz cuz Cutler doesn’t like him and bring in Tice…who Cutler is comfortable with. Of course Jay complains he doesn’t have a # 1 receiver so what do they do…they go and get him his old buddy from Denver..a true # 1 in Brandon Marshall.

    Now…there’s talk Cutler will be in on the meetings to decide who their next HC will be. They wanna make sure “Jay is comfortable” with the decision.

    What have they done for the QB of the Oakland Raiders whom they have spent a boatload of $ on?

    “Hey, go throw it to that UDFA there who caught 20 passes in college, or that guy there who always drops it, or how about that other guy who was a 5th rd. draft choice out of UT”.

    Forget about if Palmer is “a joke” or “he sucks” for aminute. I’m talking about spending a ton of money on a QB and then supporting him half azz.

    Can u at least get him ONE #1 receiver to throw the ball to?

  1018. The_Judge37 Says:

    992.DutchRaider77 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:56 pm
    So I got a FREE ticket for Saturday’s game, Whiners v. Green Bay. Should I go in my Raiders’ gear?
    ——–

    Charles Woodson jersey

  1019. Just Fire Baby Says:

    You really believe in Atlanta?

    *****************************

    I do.

    They are a passing team with elite WR’s, and don’t have to leave the dome the rest of the way.

  1020. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 1:02 pm
    Just to Clarify ..

    Johnny Football is eligible in the NEXT years draft.

    He is a Reshirt Freshman and acedemically a junior.

    1. Redshirt year, 2. RS Freshman (this year) 3. Sophmore..

    —-

    Correct, Rule is you have to be 3 years removed from High School.

  1021. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 1:07 pm
    You really believe in Atlanta?

    *****************************

    I do.

    They are a passing team with elite WR’s, and don’t have to leave the dome the rest of the way.

    —-

    Seattle’s secondary on turf is just about impossible to beat.

  1022. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I knew someone from Natchitoches, Louisana.

    Told me this crazy story about two Indian brothers each going 150 miles and settling, hence the two cities in Texas/Louisana.

  1023. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    I’ve said this before but Oakland needs to model there team after Seattle IMO.

    “““““““““““““““““““““““““““`
    A defense that is bigger, faster, stronger. That plays man to man, and relies on a strong four man pass rush?..An offense that breaks you down with the run, then will take a quick strike w/ a long pass?…

    Can’t put my finger on it. But, I have seen this strategy somewhere before…

  1024. hwnrdr Says:

    I have a feeling its gonna be NE/Seatte…

  1025. JLofty Says:

    Dutch, go to the game, have a great time, enjoy the comraderie and allow the 9Ball fans their moment. They are just football fans like the rest of us…
    We’ll have our day.

  1026. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    909RaiderLifer Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 1:09 pm
    I’ve said this before but Oakland needs to model there team after Seattle IMO.

    “““““““““““““““““““““““““““`
    A defense that is bigger, faster, stronger. That plays man to man, and relies on a strong four man pass rush?..An offense that breaks you down with the run, then will take a quick strike w/ a long pass?…

    Can’t put my finger on it. But, I have seen this strategy somewhere before…

    —-

    New York Giants :)

    lol..

  1027. DutchRaider77 Says:

    1014.DMAC Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 1:04 pm
    Dutch

    Just sell your tix
    FK the Whiners!!!

    _____________________________________________________-

    Yeah I know, buddy is a whiner fan, but he actually buys tickets and goes to the Raiders games with me. He got a couple DUIs and lost his license and I am the only one willing to drive him…

  1028. hwnrdr Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 1:09 pm
    I knew someone from Natchitoches, Louisana.

    Told me this crazy story about two Indian brothers each going 150 miles and settling, hence the two cities in Texas/Louisana.

    I knew someone from Faquieu, VA…pronounced F___U…non joke!

  1029. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Its one thing to have a strategy, a whole nother thing actually have the players to execute it.

    We havent had them since the 80s.

  1030. JLofty Says:

    Seattle’s got a good team and a fine defense. But did any of you atually watch Russell Wilson play last week?
    Guy has Marshawn Lynch tearing up that D, his own scrambling breaking them down further, and he can’t barely even complete a pass. (the Sydney Rice almost catch notwithstanding)…

  1031. DutchRaider77 Says:

    1018.The_Judge37 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 1:07 pm
    992.DutchRaider77 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:56 pm
    So I got a FREE ticket for Saturday’s game, Whiners v. Green Bay. Should I go in my Raiders’ gear?
    ——–

    Charles Woodson jersey

    ______________________________________________________

    I wish, my collection of Raider Jerseys are all losers…two Jamarcus Russell Jerseys.

    Actually my Whiner fans are always shocked at the number of people wearing Jamarcus Jerseys at the game…

  1032. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    JLofty Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 1:13 pm
    Seattle’s got a good team and a fine defense. But did any of you atually watch Russell Wilson play last week?
    Guy has Marshawn Lynch tearing up that D, his own scrambling breaking them down further, and he can’t barely even complete a pass. (the Sydney Rice almost catch notwithstanding)…

    —-

    HUH?

    Dont know which game you watched.

  1033. R8drinOK Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 1:10 pm
    I have a feeling its gonna be NE/Seatte…

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    I could handle Cable and Zach getting a ring over Belicheat (3 time loser :-D )

  1034. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    1023….right on cue!

  1035. DMAC Says:

    DutchRaider77 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 1:11 pm

    1014.DMAC Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 1:04 pm
    Dutch

    Just sell your tix
    FK the Whiners!!!

    _____________________________________________________-

    Yeah I know, buddy is a whiner fan, but he actually buys tickets and goes to the Raiders games with me. He got a couple DUIs and lost his license and I am the only one willing to drive him…
    =====

    Decisions, decisions
    If thats ur buddy, than I say fk it
    Go the game

  1036. JLofty Says:

    I admit I quit watching after the 7th field goal and unknown number of RW3 horrible passes. Washington would’a mopped them up if Shanarat wasn’t too stupid to put in Cousins. RGIII was CLEARLY wounded and ineffective…

  1037. The_Judge37 Says:

    Loss of Chris Clemons will hurt Seattle

  1038. JLofty Says:

    Anybody but the Donkeys!! and the Cheatriots…

  1039. DMAC Says:

    I wouldn’t mind seeing the home town product Beast Mode get a ring.

  1040. DutchRaider77 Says:

    1036.JLofty Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 1:16 pm
    I admit I quit watching after the 7th field goal and unknown number of RW3 horrible passes. Washington would’a mopped them up if Shanarat wasn’t too stupid to put in Cousins. RGIII was CLEARLY wounded and ineffective…

    ______________________________________________________

    Or after they were up 14-0, feed the ball to Morris and switch up the playcalling at the very least…

  1041. DMAC Says:

    The_Judge37 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 1:17 pm

    Loss of Chris Clemons will hurt Seattle
    ========

    Why did Al let this guy go?

  1042. The_Judge37 Says:

    1032.DutchRaider77 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 1:14 pm
    1018.The_Judge37 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 1:07 pm
    992.DutchRaider77 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:56 pm
    So I got a FREE ticket for Saturday’s game, Whiners v. Green Bay. Should I go in my Raiders’ gear?
    ——–

    Charles Woodson jersey

    ______________________________________________________

    I wish, my collection of Raider Jerseys are all losers…two Jamarcus Russell Jerseys.

    Actually my Whiner fans are always shocked at the number of people wearing Jamarcus Jerseys at the game…
    —–

    That’s pretty embarassing, please don’t go to a 49er playoff game wearing a Russell Jersey. Go to the Raider Image and buy a $30 T-Shirt at least.

  1043. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Russell Wilson left a lot of points on the board last week.

    The Skins didn’t respect his deep pass, and dudes were wide open down the field all game long.

    That works against a circus act offense with a beatup QB, not so much in Atlanta.

    Seattle will have to score 30 to win, and I don’t see it.

  1044. The_Judge37 Says:

    1042.DMAC Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 1:20 pm
    The_Judge37 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 1:17 pm

    Loss of Chris Clemons will hurt Seattle
    ========

    Why did Al let this guy go?
    ——–

    Because he didn’t have Tommy Kelly’s size.

  1045. DMAC Says:

    The_Judge37 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 1:20 pm

    1032.DutchRaider77 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 1:14 pm
    1018.The_Judge37 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 1:07 pm
    992.DutchRaider77 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:56 pm
    So I got a FREE ticket for Saturday’s game, Whiners v. Green Bay. Should I go in my Raiders’ gear?
    ——–

    Charles Woodson jersey

    ______________________________________________________

    I wish, my collection of Raider Jerseys are all losers…two Jamarcus Russell Jerseys.

    Actually my Whiner fans are always shocked at the number of people wearing Jamarcus Jerseys at the game…
    —–

    That’s pretty embarassing, please don’t go to a 49er playoff game wearing a Russell Jersey. Go to the Raider Image and buy a $30 T-Shirt at least.
    ========

    You can always wear your Jay Shraoder jersey.
    lol

  1046. The_Judge37 Says:

    I’m very proud to have a Starter James Jett jersey

  1047. DMAC Says:

    Who has a rocket Ismael jersey?

  1048. The_Judge37 Says:

    At least change the name tag on the back. You can have yourself a #2 Marquette King jersey

  1049. R8drinOK Says:

    DMAC Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 1:20 pm
    The_Judge37 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 1:17 pm

    Loss of Chris Clemons will hurt Seattle
    ========

    Why did Al let this guy go?

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Why did Al do a lot of stupid sh!t starting with trading Gruden in 2001 …Al needed to hand the reins to a GM but he could not let go. The Raiders were his life. We should have had at least one trophy with that team!(2000-2002)

  1050. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I will look forward to the punter punt off next preseason.

    Something just tells me Marquette King will have some drama attached to it.

    Remember I said this…….

  1051. The_Judge37 Says:

    1048.DMAC Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 1:23 pm
    Who has a rocket Ismael jersey?
    ———

    Rocket Ismael

  1052. The_Judge37 Says:

    1051.Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 1:25 pm
    I will look forward to the punter punt off next preseason.

    Something just tells me Marquette King will have some drama attached to it.

    Remember I said this…….
    ——

    Hopefully we keep Lechler, i dont see a bright future for King.

  1053. DMAC Says:

    We need to find a job for the “real wave of the future”

    http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/headshots/nfl/players/full/15635.png&w=350&h=254

    Viva la raza!
    lol

  1054. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    al was the one who found him…but he needed development….

  1055. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I thought Ismael was going to be the business with us.

    Him and Billy Joe Hobert.

    What could have been…….

  1056. DMAC Says:

    Vegas

    Wassup a/ a Dubs game?

  1057. DMAC Says:

    w/

  1058. Gdog Says:

    DutchRaider77 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 1:14 pm

    1018.The_Judge37 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 1:07 pm
    992.DutchRaider77 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:56 pm
    So I got a FREE ticket for Saturday’s game, Whiners v. Green Bay. Should I go in my Raiders’ gear?
    ——–

    Charles Woodson jersey

    ______________________________________________________

    I wish, my collection of Raider Jerseys are all losers…two Jamarcus Russell Jerseys.

    Actually my Whiner fans are always shocked at the number of people wearing Jamarcus Jerseys at the game…

    >>>>>

    I had a Phil Buchanan jersey that I fixed by simply unsewing his name off the back. I have a plotter to cut out vinyl.. it is now a Tatum jersey!

  1059. guest123 Says:

    looks like George Lopez

  1060. Just Fire Baby Says:

    BTW, Billy Joe Hobert light up week 17 his rookie year as well.

    I was all in on that one as well, and faceplanted.

    Week 17 can be a toxic cocktail for fans yearning for any semblence of hope.

  1061. dr_robert Says:

    DJ Johnny Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:45 pm
    918.Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:15 pm
    proof that qb rating is a great indicator of who the better qb is.

    *****************************
    On the flip side of that how often is “perception” from media, fans etc. different from what actually is.

    I heard Peter King said yesterday that Chicago is a great destination for Bill Cowher HC becuz, among other things “they have a quarterback”. This from the same dikface who was ripping on Carson Palmer for being “done”.

    As i’ve noted a few times before Palmers numbers are much better than Cutler’s not only last yr but his entire career, AND Cutler has had the benefit of receivers like Brandon Marshall (a true #1 receiver) to throw to.

    That’s what I mean. The “perception” being that Cutler is still this semi-elite QB and Palmer is 45 yr’s old and on his last leg.

    *************

    it’s funny cuz i posted palmer’s being #19 all-time in response to the incredible idiocy in here. and since then, guys keep going off about this qb or that qb being higher rated than an alleged great qb. and i continue to just say look at the facts. i have never said one way or the other that one qb was better or worse. just stated the facts. and they go ape sh!t.

    no one has bothered to compare his current season rankings or recent seasons rankings, which i have also posted, to the all-time rankings. the fact is that palmer is average-to-good currently, and most of the highest rated passers in history are playing right now. part of that is the rules, part of it is current offensive style, and part of is better qb’s on the whole.

    but guys seem to have all the wrong ideas about who is good and who isn’t and why. ur culer/palmer comparison and so many guys stating how good cutler is is proof. have people watched cutler play? he is very similar to palmer actually. great arm. capable of great throws. bad int’s at times. but cutler has a bad attitude, whereas palmer has a good one.

  1062. DMAC Says:

    guest123 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 1:30 pm

    looks like George Lopez
    =======
    You didn’t know that was his nephew?

    Naw, I’m just fk’n w/ u
    He does look like that fool though
    lmao

  1063. RaiderSam Says:

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1477063-the-raiders-made-a-big-mistake-by-not-releasing-rolando-mcclain?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=oakland-raiders

    We’re lucky to get an offer for a 7th round or conditional 5th round pick at best. I’m for giving players second chances, Al would have gave McClain a second chance to redeem himself to the team. In McClain’s case, he should have known that his welcome with the team was on thin ice after the shooting incident. Then stupidly followed up his act with a childish twitter rant and more boorish behavior not to mention half-ass effort at his job. He needs to be cut or traded period.

  1064. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Vegas

    Wassup a/ a Dubs game?

    ****************************

    I am coming out in April

    Going to the AZ vs. World Champions game the 24th, and either the A’s-O’s on the 25th, or HOPEFULLY a 1st round playoff game for the Dubs.

  1065. DMAC Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 1:32 pm

    Vegas

    Wassup a/ a Dubs game?

    ****************************

    I am coming out in April

    Going to the AZ vs. World Champions game the 24th, and either the A’s-O’s on the 25th, or HOPEFULLY a 1st round playoff game for the Dubs.
    =========

    U got my email right?
    Let me know wassup later

  1066. Feo Says:

    Looks like Mike Mularkey availabe per Schefter

  1067. Just Fire Baby Says:

    We are going to trade McClain to move up like 9 picks in the 7th round.

    It is going to be beyond humilaiting for us, a point and laugh moment for the media.

  1068. The_Judge37 Says:

    Last Raiders Jersey I’ve bought was a Rod Woodson.

  1069. Just Fire Baby Says:

    U got my email right?

    *******************

    I do…..how much would you think playoffs tix would run?

    Cheapest to mid grade?

  1070. The_Judge37 Says:

    I said at the begining they should’ve just cut him. Takes away from the message you’re trying to send to everyone else by desperatly trying to get something from him.

  1071. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Last Raiders jersey I bought was the pinhead in the above article.

    Not my best moment…..

  1072. RaiderSam Says:

    The_Judge37 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 1:22 pm
    1042.DMAC Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 1:20 pm
    The_Judge37 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 1:17 pm

    Loss of Chris Clemons will hurt Seattle
    ========

    Why did Al let this guy go?
    ——–

    Because he didn’t have Tommy Kelly’s size.

    ========
    They were committed to Jay Richardson and spent money on some ex-Lion high pick named Edwards … neither panned out, Clemons went on to the pro bowl..fairly sure that the talent around him up in Seattle helped him, if you recall he went to the Eagles, THEN the Seahawks.

  1073. dr_robert Says:

    RaidingTexas Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 1:02 pm
    Dr_robert Says:

    u were suggesting, rather stupidly, and commonly, that elway winning super bowls made him great, and culpepper not winning super bowls, made him less great.

    —————————————-

    I never said Super Bowl was the only reason he was great.

    Getting to four Super Bowls, winning two of them, #4 in career passing yardage, #4 in career pass completions, #7 in career TD passes, a 148–82–1 career record, and never having less than an 85 rating (your apparent be-all-end-all of QB greatness) during his final six seasons is what made him a better quarterback than Daunte. He did all that despite getting sacked more than any other QB in NFL history except Favre.

    I’m looking at the entire body of work. You’re using only QBR.

    ***********

    ur proving my point for me. he had “career” numbers based on longevity. he was pretty good bu not great actually until shanahan and davis arrived. that’s ok cuz he finally had a good running game and a coach who knew how to use him. (which is what us palmer-supporters keep talking about).

    he was NOT great until the end of his career. he WAS great then.

    culpepper was OUTSTANDING until he got injured. yes, he had good wr’s, but that’s what ur supposed to do with good wr’s. just witness how poor moss and carter played at times thru their careers with lesser qb’s.

    pennington was a very accurate thrower who was under appreciated due to playing for so-so teams and not having a big arm, nor huge passing yardage. but he didn’t make a lot of mistakes. a good team could have won with him.

  1074. RaiderSam Says:

    The_Judge37 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 1:34 pm
    Last Raiders Jersey I’ve bought was a Rod Woodson.

    =======

    I got a Justin Fargas one…need to upgrade. I had a Woodson one before, though.

  1075. The_Judge37 Says:

    1072.Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 1:36 pm
    Last Raiders jersey I bought was the pinhead in the above article.

    Not my best moment…..
    ——

    Make it a Millen jersey.

  1076. dr_robert Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 1:34 pm
    We are going to trade McClain to move up like 9 picks in the 7th round.

    It is going to be beyond humilaiting for us, a point and laugh moment for the media.
    *********

    more embarrassing for green beanie though.

  1077. The_Judge37 Says:

    Fargas was cool, Like my Jett jersey, i’d still wear it.

  1078. DMAC Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 1:35 pm

    U got my email right?

    *******************

    I do…..how much would you think playoffs tix would run?

    Cheapest to mid grade?
    =========

    Good ?????
    Its been a while
    lol

  1079. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Make it a Millen jersey.

    **************************

    The moment we cut/release/trade this clown I am shipping it off to 504 Raider, to pair with the Jamarcus jersey I sent him.

  1080. Just Fire Baby Says:

    My buddy thinks they would go $75 at the cheapest and probably $150 AT LEAST for anything decent.

  1081. dr_robert Says:

    “Atlantic Coast Conference player of the year Tajh Boyd will return to Clemson for his senior season.”

    it’s been a bad week for missdick. his “greatest football moment” is turning sour.

  1082. dr_robert Says:

    “Eric Decker and Demaryius Thomas have both benefited from the arrival of Peyton Manning in Denver while forging a close friendship on and off the field.”

    can’t we all get along?

  1083. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Boyd was told he was a 4th round pick by the draft committee.

    Never know what to make of those though.

  1084. dr_robert Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 1:43 pm
    Boyd was told he was a 4th round pick by the draft committee.

    Never know what to make of those though.

    **************

    it might not get better. under sized. acc player of the year. he’s probably hottest now. his stock can only go down.

  1085. dr_robert Says:

    but jow ebb’s performance and griffin’s injury have to cause some worries among gm’s regarding the “wave of the future” guys. we’ll see if kaepernick or wilson can pump them back up.

  1086. mcfadden20. Says:

    Where is M1st1c? haven’t seen him around since Griffin lost

  1087. mcfadden20. Says:

    My SB predictions, Seahawks over Houston

  1088. The_Judge37 Says:

    1087.mcfadden20. Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 1:50 pm
    Where is M1st1c? haven’t seen him around since Griffin lost
    —-

    Don’t see why that would be a problem, unless Wilson and Kapernick are not black enough for him.

  1089. mcfadden20. Says:

    They don’t really fit his zone read type of schemes for wave of future guys

  1090. mcfadden20. Says:

    plus he never really liked Wilson and Kaepernick as much as he liked Newton Griffin, he just decided to like them once Griffin and Newton started losing, so he won’t look like a fool

  1091. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    OK guys I have a new DRAFT PROSPECT for you guys to utube or look at. MLB from Kansas State ARTHUR BROWN. Better then TEO but doesnt have the hype.

    I guarentee u he is on Reggies Radar. Thats why moving down is a must. U need to somehow get a 2nd round pick or another 3rd.

    Check him out u dig//?

  1092. mcfadden20. Says:

    Damontre Moore is the pick with #3, talk about rest of the draft

  1093. mcfadden20. Says:

    i would take a chance on FSU DE B Jenkins in 3rd or 4th, hopefully he will live upto his 1st rd projection

  1094. dr_robert Says:

    super bowl preciction:

    denver 31
    new england 20

  1095. alex7 Says:

    A to Z,

    in case you’re still around, you wanted the 1st round trade scenario explained.

    The Raiders own the #3 overall pick, the Cardinals own the 7th overall pick. Raiders could let the Cardinals move up into the Raiders spot at #3 to draft all-american left tackle Joeckel. The Raiders would slide down to #7 but ask for compensation in return.

    The compensation would be the Raiders getting the Cardinals 2nd round pick, while the Cardinals get the Raiders 3rd round pick (they swap).

    I think asking straight up for a 2nd round pick would be declined to move up just 4 spots to take a left tackle.

  1096. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    Theres nigg*s and then theres black people-Chris Rock

    We all know where Mcclain falls under.

    Add another draft selection to the bust list.

  1097. DutchRaider77 Says:

    With all the Bowl hype and how much Alabama loves their Crimson Tide, shouldn’t McClain be some kind of god in Alabama?

  1098. Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:

    =======================================================
    dr_robert Says:
    just repeat, repeat, repeat, and then say LOL a lot like a hyena, so u can pretend u did something. ur like beech. saying it a lot doesn’t make it true. u know that right?
    dr_robert Says:
    face it kid. i know far more about the game. LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL!
    =======================================================

  1099. alex7 Says:

    RaiderSam

    teams only get conditional draft picks for players they lose to free agency, not players they cut.

  1100. DutchRaider77 Says:

    Rolando McClain Story..

    http://blog.sfgate.com/raiders/2013/01/09/rolando-mcclain-signed-citation-as-expletive-yall/

    Check the “Straight Dope” story for the really language.

  1101. RaidingTexas Says:

    Dr_robert Says:

    he was pretty good bu not great actually until shanahan and davis arrived.

    ———————————————-

    Correct. He became great when they arrived. Just like Troy was great with Emmitt and Jimmy beside him. Just like Young was great with Rice and Seifert. Just like Brady is great with Belichick.

    I didn’t exactly notice Daunte Culpepper winning titles with lesser coaching and running backs. Kind of puts a hole in your argument now.

  1102. DutchRaider77 Says:

    Sorry I meant Deadspin for the really language he signed the ticket as….

  1103. JLofty Says:

    I think what RGIII is proving and I said this earlier this year, you better have 3 of those running QBs on your roster cause they are going to get hurt. And not just ripped up knees.
    Like in college where (sustained) success is largely due to the system backed up with solid recruiting/talent replacement.
    But with the concussion rules getting stricter (and they will-trust me) guys are going to need to be more replaceable without tossing your pro franchise to the trash heap.
    It won’t be long before some pro team realizes this and prepares for the future…

  1104. JLofty Says:

    NFL is going to need to open up the roster too…I mean when your long snapper leaves the game you’re gunna need more roster spots!

  1105. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    Nico Johnson, Alec Olgetree would be good pickups too .

    Trade down

  1106. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    They changes the SuperBowl format? Sweet!

  1107. mcfadden20. Says:

    Actually the DT on the Texas A&M team isn’t bad either

  1108. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    Changed*

  1109. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    The DT from Bama who also plays lead blocker on running plays…

    Is he in the draft?

    Forgot his name.

    Beast!

  1110. RaidingTexas Says:

    Dr_robert Says:

    super bowl preciction:

    denver 31
    new england 20

    —————————–

    Boy, you sure know your football.

  1111. SilverLining20 Says:

    Alex7,

    I agree with most of your posts except for your opinion on O-line unimportance, lol.
    Do you have a best case scenario for the Raiders in the first round including specific players?

  1112. mcfadden20. Says:

    they need to hire some one already , f8kkkkk

  1113. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    The DT from Bama who also plays lead blocker on running plays…

    Is he in the draft?

    Forgot his name.

    Beast!

    ———————–

    Yep Jesse Williams.. PRO Late 1st – to mid 2nd

  1114. mcfadden20. Says:

    I’mma be out until they sign a OC

  1115. 1960AutumnWind Says:

    Dr_robert Says:

    super bowl preciction:

    denver 31
    new england 20

    —————————–
    This is a joke right?!

  1116. JLofty Says:

    No one’s getting on the Raven’s bandwagon?
    I hope Ray Lewis sends Donkeyhead up to Sputnik where he belongs….

  1117. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Best scenario draft:

    1- Barkevious Mingo [DE/OLB, LSU]
    3- Kwame Geathers [NT, Georgia]
    4- Andrew Jackson [ILB, W.Kentucky]
    6- Tanner Hawkinson [RT, Kansas]
    7- Mario Benavides [C, Louisville]
    7- Greg Reid [CB/KR, Valdosta]

    Best scenario w/tradedown:

    1- Jesse Williams [NT, Bama]
    2- Alex Okafor [DE/OLB, Texas]
    3- Kyle Long [RT, Oregon]
    4- Andrew Jackson [ILB, W.Kentucky]
    6- Joseph Fauria [TE, UCLA]
    7- Ray Ray Armstrong [S, Miami]
    7- Greg Reid [CB/KR, Valdosta]

  1118. JLofty Says:

    MiamiRaider78 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 2:10 pm
    They changed the SuperBowl format? Sweet!
    ________________________________________________

    Yup new deal is the victor of the AFC Championship game gets to play the Yugoslavian Nat’l team. In Honalulu….

  1119. lefty12 Says:

    1086-everyone complains and argues with him when he is here.Why are you concerned when he isn’t around?

  1120. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    Gil Brandt‏@Gil_Brandt

    Best player in the draft is Bama’s Chance Warmack, but he won’t go No. 1. Guards aren’t valued that high. Should be though.

    Gil Brandt‏@Gil_Brandt

    Joeckel could go No. 1 to @kcchiefs, but there’s no sure-fire first overall pick. I have 15 names I could see going at top spot.

    Gil Brandt‏@Gil_Brandt

    If I had to compare Luke Joeckel to anyone in the @NFL it would have to be Jake Long. Best O-lineman in draft, top-5 pick.

  1121. JLofty Says:

    The new Raider’s front office is tighter lipped than Al Davis. Man not a single leak of who might be interviewing or nothing!

  1122. morilla Says:

    JLofty Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 2:18 pm
    No one’s getting on the Raven’s bandwagon?
    I hope Ray Lewis sends Donkeyhead up to Sputnik where he belongs….
    ————-

    I think they have a shot. Especially since this is Rays last go at it. That kind of emotion can pull a team over the top.

  1123. The_Judge37 Says:

    1122.JLofty Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 2:22 pm
    The new Raider’s front office is tighter lipped than Al Davis. Man not a single leak of who might be interviewing or nothing!
    ——

    Maybe no inside sources can understand Reggie’s mumblings?

  1124. raidertbone Says:

    You gotta wonder whether or not Reggie wants his old team to lose this weekend so that he can start raiding the talent pool – we are RAIDERS, after all!

  1125. raidertbone Says:

    1120. I remember the last time we took an offensive lineman with a very high (#4 overall) pick. How’d THAT work out?

  1126. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    thats because reggie is still at the buffet…

  1127. JLofty Says:

    That’s funny Judge…

  1128. JLofty Says:

    If I wanted to I could name a horrible top draft pick by the Raiders going all the way back to some guy named Dickey.
    But I don’t. It’s harder to think of a Raider’s top pick that REALLY worked out for us. Don’t say Nnamdi either cuz that didn’t. Maybe SeaBass?!?

  1129. lefty12 Says:

    Gil Brandt-guards aren’t valued that high.Should be though.
    ===========================
    Agree 100%.Great running teams have great guards.

  1130. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    kaufman…

  1131. lefty12 Says:

    Raidertbone Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 2:31 pm
    1120. I remember the last time we took an offensive lineman with a very high (#4 overall) pick. How’d THAT work out?
    ==============================
    So because that one didn’t work out we should ignore it now.Using that logic there aren’t many positions we could pick going by the success we’ve had in way too long.

  1132. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    tim brown

  1133. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Nnamdi didnt work out?

  1134. The_Judge37 Says:

    Woodson

  1135. raidertbone Says:

    I still hope that we can trade DMac and recoup some value. I’m afraid if we don’t do something with him, this year will be the year that he goes down hard – maybe DONE!

  1136. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    woodson

  1137. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I am a BIG fan of Arthur Brown from K-state.

    A guy who “flashes” when you watch the team play.

    Too many of these supposed “top 10″ picks, you got to google them during the game just to figure out where the F they are and what number they wear.

    Doesn’t sound like a top 10 pick does it?

  1138. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Mingo is the pick.

    Best prospect not named Joeckel.

  1139. raidertbone Says:

    Woodson and Seabass

  1140. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    marcus allen

  1141. RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:

    Trade down. Get more picks. PERIOD. This team needs players bad

  1142. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Having a 2nd round pick would be nice.

    Thanks Hue.

  1143. Seymour Bush Says:

    The_Judge37 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 1:36 pm

    I said at the begining they should’ve just cut him. Takes away from the message you’re trying to send to everyone else by desperatly trying to get something from him.
    ============================================

    McClain had not seen the field for a month prior to the seasons end, and won’t be in silver and black ever again. I think that’s a good message. And they are also trying to get something, anything, for that turd. I think that is also a good message that the org is not emotional, and they are doing anything they can to improve the team. Remember, after McClain got arrested, it was Jackson who let him play the next game in Miami. Where he sucked.

  1144. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    terry mcdaniel

  1145. The_Judge37 Says:

    I root for Draft Picks like i do for Horse racing, Who ever’s got the best name. Not always the safest route as i really thought Slade Norris was going to be a Beast.

  1146. Just Fire Baby Says:

    It’s about value in the draft, IMO.

    Do you want a guy like ANY of these DE’s that you aren’t even sure is the 1st or 4th best prospect at his position, or the unmolested #1 overall pick at his position, Warmack.

    Plus, as bad as we need pass-rushers, you can argue we need guards just as bad.

    Warmack or Werner-Moore-Jones HAS TO BE the pick.

    And I would lean towards Warmack.

  1147. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    don mosebar

  1148. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Trade down is ideal. But not a sure thing.

    Mingo is the pick @3.

    Jesse Williams should be the target in a trade down.

  1149. raidertbone Says:

    I still say you have got to take a long look at Star for the first round. I would trade down if we could get two first round picks, but that’s not likely. Maybe, down the road, we can pick up RGIII as a reclamation project — two reconstructive surgeries on the same knee in four years – that doesn’t sound too good!

  1150. shutdown Says:

    “If I wanted to I could name a horrible top draft pick by the Raiders going all the way back to some guy named Dickey.
    “But I don’t. It’s harder to think of a Raider’s top pick that REALLY worked out for us. Don’t say Nnamdi either cuz that didn’t. Maybe SeaBass?!____________________________________________________

    If by “REALLY worked out” means making the difference between winning the division, the conference, etc. and not, then a big “NO.”

    I maintain that for as good as Seabass has become (note the “has become”) he was a horrid disappointment for a first round pick and all that money. He was picked because AL was foolish enough to think that because of the success of the preceding season, all needed was a field goal kicker with a big leg.

    He got that kicker while not using the pick for something else we needed and by paying top dollar for him. Turned out the kicker was immature, didn’t take care of himself, got cellulitis, was hospitalized, went through crazy periods of inaccuracy, etc. Now, his failures in kicking wouldn’t have been enough to categorize him as a loser of a field goal kicker those first seasons (although he did miss field goals under 45 yards that drove people crazy, sometimes hooked, sometimes pushed), but his selection as our first round choice was a loser of a choice.

    We had a chance to get a difference maker that played every down on at least one side of the ball, and instead Al chose a kicker. The choice still has made no difference in our ultimate place in the standings.

  1151. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    henry lawrence, ray guy….this is getting old…

  1152. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Totally disagree.

    We need pash rushers head & shoulders above anything else.

    Guard isnt even 3rd on the need list.

  1153. Gdog Says:

    For the people that think we need to draft someone for more sacks… there are only 4 teams in the top 15 in sacks still alive.

    It’s a luxury in todays NFL.

    DRAFT OFFENSE REGGIE!

  1154. lefty12 Says:

    Talking about players that were drafted at least 10 years ago makes the point.We can’t ignore a player at a certain position because the last player taken at that position didn’t work out.

  1155. Just Fire Baby Says:

    And when do top-pick guards flop?

    I am sure there are some, but I don’t remember many top 15ish Guards being drafted, and the ones I remember are Iupati and Hutchinson.

  1156. The_Judge37 Says:

    1144.Seymour Bush Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 2:44 pm
    The_Judge37 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 1:36 pm

    I said at the begining they should’ve just cut him. Takes away from the message you’re trying to send to everyone else by desperatly trying to get something from him.
    ============================================

    McClain had not seen the field for a month prior to the seasons end, and won’t be in silver and black ever again. I think that’s a good message. And they are also trying to get something, anything, for that turd. I think that is also a good message that the org is not emotional, and they are doing anything they can to improve the team. Remember, after McClain got arrested, it was Jackson who let him play the next game in Miami. Where he sucked.
    ———

    I only have a problem with McClain’s play. I don’t really care for his legal troubles. But he was lazy. They should’ve just cut him and the message would’ve been, “We don’t care who you are”. No one was going to offer anything great for a player they know will be released.

  1157. DKnight007 Says:

    1083.Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 1:43 pm
    Boyd was told he was a 4th round pick by the draft committee.

    Never know what to make of those though.

    ^^^^^^
    Exactly. The draft “commitee” is kind of a joke IMO.

  1158. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Gdog Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 2:46 pm
    For the people that think we need to draft someone for more sacks… there are only 4 teams in the top 15 in sacks still alive.

    It’s a luxury in todays NFL.

    DRAFT OFFENSE REGGIE!

    —-

    Sacks isnt the only measure.

    QB pressure is just as much a factor.

  1159. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    ohhh…didnt read that….

  1160. raidertbone Says:

    Word to upper management – SPEND THE MONEY! BRING IN HENRY MELTON!

  1161. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Warmack moved up on my draft board; still think we need to draft a pass rusher; Moore, Jones, or Werner; however if Reggie moves back to get more draft picks drafts Warmack with the 6th-8th overall pick; that would be a major upgrade to our Oline; especially if we were to move Wisniewski back to LG:

    OLine
    Vehldeer Wisniewski new center Warmack new RT,

    with Nix, Barnes, and Bergstrom as backups

  1162. shutdown Says:

    I know that he couldn’t…or didn’t block well, but I long for the days of a Todd Christiansen, you know, the days when the Raiders had receivers/tight ends, who really could and DID catch the ball, even when the ball was off target.

    I was spoiled by the likes of watching Freddie B. and tight ends like Chester, Caspar, and Christiansen.

    I never imagined we’d have the likes of Jett, Porter(what a waste of talent), DHB, Murphy, etc.

  1163. JLofty Says:

    Try to keep the draft picks in the modern era.
    Don Mosebar…you guys are too funny.
    I’d say Woodson is close. But we squandered that opp (so did Walt Coleman) but that guy got torched a lot for my taste and he’s gone.
    Nnamdi was swell, but couldn’t exactly build a team around him.
    So have ANY of our top 10 picks of the last decade+ of futility worked out? McFragile is it huh? F*k!!!

  1164. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Mingo will be the best DE/OLB in this draft.

  1165. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    POST-1125,THIS TEAM HAS WIFF’D ON HIGH PICKS AT JUST ABOUT EVERY POSITION..SO WE SHOULD JUST SIT THIS ONE OUT OR WHAT ?

  1166. Myopinion Says:

    What happened to yhat ray anderson or something. Could that be the holdup?

  1167. manassamauler Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 2:47 pm

    And when do top-pick guards flop?

    I am sure there are some, but I don’t remember many top 15ish Guards being drafted, and the ones I remember are Iupati and Hutchinson.

    <, raiders should trade down and draft barret Jones. dude can play all 5 positions on the OLINE and is dominating.

  1168. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Everyone likes to talk tradedown..

    But you need to have a logical partner to trade with.

    Explain that part in your scenarios too…Or its kind of a waste of time.

  1169. Gdog Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 2:48 pm

    Gdog Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 2:46 pm
    For the people that think we need to draft someone for more sacks… there are only 4 teams in the top 15 in sacks still alive.

    It’s a luxury in todays NFL.

    DRAFT OFFENSE REGGIE!

    —-

    Sacks isnt the only measure.

    QB pressure is just as much a factor.

    >>>

    Atlanta won 13 games at the bottom of the league at this.

  1170. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    lol…woodson….close? lol…dhb, huff, dmc…all still on the team…

  1171. manassamauler Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 2:51 pm

    Everyone likes to talk tradedown..

    But you need to have a logical partner to trade with.

    Explain that part in your scenarios too…Or its kind of a waste of time.

    > of joeckel is there at 3 trading down becomes easier.

  1172. DKnight007 Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 2:45 pm
    Trade down is ideal. But not a sure thing.

    Mingo is the pick @3.

    Jesse Williams should be the target in a trade down

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Not a big Mingo fan either #3.

    Let’s hope McK can find a trade partner and move down!

  1173. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Henry Melton had the highest QB pressure to pass-rushing snaps % in the entire NFL in 2011.

    Not sure what it was in 2012, but whenever I watched Bears game, he was a force rushing the passer.

  1174. The_Judge37 Says:

    1163. I’ll ask to please not soil the Jett’s name.

  1175. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    ..and Atlanta will lose this weekend because Matt Ryan will be on his back or getting hurried.

    We almost beat them the same way.

    The one game our pass rush showed up.

  1176. manassamauler Says:

    Andy Reids pick will determine what the Raiders do.

  1177. Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:

    1960AutumnWind Says:

    Dr_robert Says:
    super bowl preciction:
    denver 31
    new england 20
    —————————–
    This is a joke right?!
    ======================================================

    Shhh! Don’t tell him!!

  1178. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    DKnight007 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 2:53 pm
    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 2:45 pm
    Trade down is ideal. But not a sure thing.

    Mingo is the pick @3.

    Jesse Williams should be the target in a trade down

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Not a big Mingo fan either #3.

    Let’s hope McK can find a trade partner and move down!

    —-

    Mark my words. Mingo will be an all-pro.

  1179. manassamauler Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 2:54 pm

    ..and Atlanta will lose this weekend because Matt Ryan will be on his back or getting hurried.

    We almost beat them the same way.

    The one game our pass rush showed up.

    >> seattle lost their best pass rusher. falcons will win it.

  1180. eastoaklandraider Says:

    1157.DKnight007 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 2:48 pm
    1083.Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 1:43 pm
    Boyd was told he was a 4th round pick by the draft committee.

    Never know what to make of those though.

    ^^^^^^
    Exactly. The draft “commitee” is kind of a joke IMO.
    —————-

    Manti TEO is a joke LMAO!!!

  1181. Seymour Bush Says:

    The_Judge37 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 2:47 pm

    1144.Seymour Bush Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 2:44 pm
    The_Judge37 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 1:36 pm

    I said at the begining they should’ve just cut him. Takes away from the message you’re trying to send to everyone else by desperatly trying to get something from him.
    ============================================

    McClain had not seen the field for a month prior to the seasons end, and won’t be in silver and black ever again. I think that’s a good message. And they are also trying to get something, anything, for that turd. I think that is also a good message that the org is not emotional, and they are doing anything they can to improve the team. Remember, after McClain got arrested, it was Jackson who let him play the next game in Miami. Where he sucked.
    ———

    I only have a problem with McClain’s play. I don’t really care for his legal troubles. But he was lazy. They should’ve just cut him and the message would’ve been, “We don’t care who you are”. No one was going to offer anything great for a player they know will be released.
    =========================================

    Personally I gave McClain about a C- his rookie year. Which would have been barely acceptable if he was a 5th rounder but not the overall 8. So his second season I was on his play, and he really never improved. Some of that probably is his off field activities and overall demeanor. At which point I say, do whatever you want McClain, you are just not doing it here.

  1182. The_Judge37 Says:

    1177.manassamauler Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 2:54 pm
    Andy Reids pick will determine what the Raiders do.
    ——

    They can’t really afford not to draft a QB.

  1183. DKnight007 Says:

    1142.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 2:44 pm
    Having a 2nd round pick would be nice.

    Thanks Hue.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Thanks Davis and McK for not keeping Hue around so he can work with the QB he traded for a full season.

    In turn…the team went downhill

  1184. raidertbone Says:

    2004 – Gallery
    2005 – our old pal Fabian
    2006 – Huff
    2007 – JaSizzurp
    2008 – DMac
    2009 – DHB
    2010 – Slo-Mac
    2011 – nada
    2012 – nada

    ouch! ouch! and ouch!

  1185. manassamauler Says:

    eastoaklandraider Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 2:55 pm

    1157.DKnight007 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 2:48 pm
    1083.Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 1:43 pm
    Boyd was told he was a 4th round pick by the draft committee.

    Never know what to make of those though.

    ^^^^^^
    Exactly. The draft “commitee” is kind of a joke IMO.
    —————-

    Manti TEO is a joke LMAO!!!

    > almost as funny as people here sayimg Vick is better than elway.

  1186. manassamauler Says:

    The_Judge37 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 2:55 pm

    1177.manassamauler Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 2:54 pm
    Andy Reids pick will determine what the Raiders do.
    ——

    They can’t really afford not to draft a QB.

    >. hope you’re right. you can start a rebuild with a LT as easy as a QB.

  1187. DKnight007 Says:

    1180.eastoaklandraider Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 2:55 pm
    1157.DKnight007 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 2:48 pm
    1083.Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 1:43 pm
    Boyd was told he was a 4th round pick by the draft committee.

    Never know what to make of those though.

    ^^^^^^
    Exactly. The draft “commitee” is kind of a joke IMO.
    —————-

    Manti TEO is a joke LMAO!!!

    ^^^^^^^^
    Te’o might not be worthy of #3 pick…..but from what I saw of Jordan, Moore, Werner, Jones in their Bowl games…..neither are they.

    Te’o will still wind up being a good, productive pro.

  1188. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    manassamauler Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 2:54 pm
    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 2:54 pm

    ..and Atlanta will lose this weekend because Matt Ryan will be on his back or getting hurried.

    We almost beat them the same way.

    The one game our pass rush showed up.

    >> seattle lost their best pass rusher. falcons will win it.

    —-

    Seattle lost ‘A’ pass rusher. Not their best.

    Bruce Irvin is their best. IMO.

  1189. Seymour Bush Says:

    Manti TEO is a joke LMAO!!!
    ===================================

    Sadly, yes. Once Teo got matched up against future NFLers instead of glorified high schoolers, he looked quite ordinary really.

  1190. Al_is_theraiders Says:

    lol…thats funny dr rob…

  1191. raidertbone Says:

    I saw something funny in the stands at the Orange Bowl.
    Somebody had a sign that said NOTRE DAME and it was altered to:
    NOT A GAME
    funny as hell!

  1192. Gdog Says:

    Remember the year we picked up a guy that led the league in sacks, Burgess?

    It won us four games.

    Sorry man… I hate to disagree with you about nearly everything Raiders, but QB pressure doesn’t guarantee more wins.

    Offense almost always does.

    WE NEED MORE POINTS, not sacks or hurries. POINTS. You don’t score a point with a sack. This isn’t fantasy.

  1193. manassamauler Says:

    raidertbone Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 2:55 pm

    2004 – Gallery
    2005 – our old pal Fabian
    2006 – Huff
    2007 – JaSizzurp
    2008 – DMac
    2009 – DHB
    2010 – Slo-Mac
    2011 – nada
    2012 – nada

    ouch! ouch! and ouch!

    >. WOW MAN> ALL BUSTERS. AD lost his draft skills last 10 years of his life. offensive,defensive philosophy is 2nd to none though

  1194. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    DKnight007 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 2:55 pm
    1142.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 2:44 pm
    Having a 2nd round pick would be nice.

    Thanks Hue.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Thanks Davis and McK for not keeping Hue around so he can work with the QB he traded for a full season.

    In turn…the team went downhill

    —-

    LOL.

    Hue Jackson doesnt correct missing blocks, dropping balls, throwing picks, missing tackles etc..

    Such a powereful guy to be a DB/ST assistant…LOL

  1195. manassamauler Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 2:57 pm

    manassamauler Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 2:54 pm
    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 2:54 pm

    ..and Atlanta will lose this weekend because Matt Ryan will be on his back or getting hurried.

    We almost beat them the same way.

    The one game our pass rush showed up.

    >> seattle lost their best pass rusher. falcons will win it.

    —-

    Seattle lost ‘A’ pass rusher. Not their best.

    Bruce Irvin is their best. IMO.

    >. still think Falcons smash them. 34-17

  1196. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Gdog Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 2:58 pm
    Remember the year we picked up a guy that led the league in sacks, Burgess?

    It won us four games.

    Sorry man… I hate to disagree with you about nearly everything Raiders, but QB pressure doesn’t guarantee more wins.

    Offense almost always does.

    WE NEED MORE POINTS, not sacks or hurries. POINTS. You don’t score a point with a sack. This isn’t fantasy.

    —-

    Why even have the defense on the field then…right?..

  1197. John David Booty Says:

    McClain had letter from doctor about window tint. He has “photosensitivity, needs ultraviolet radiation protection.” Maybe McClain, who’s struggled in his three years with Oakland, can’t see running backs.
    ————————————————–
    Classic.

  1198. Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:

    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    OK guys I have a new DRAFT PROSPECT for you guys to utube or look at. MLB from Kansas State ARTHUR BROWN. Better then TEO but doesnt have the hype.
    ======================================================

    No Hype? The Crazy World or Arthur Brown, The God of Hellfire?

  1199. eastoaklandraider Says:

    DAV, AZ and STL are potential trade partners. If Joeckel drops to 3 I would think the Cardinals would want him. As for STL the MAY want to jump up to grab Millner. If we can drop down a few spots and pick Warmack then pick up Barret Jones in the second I would be a very happy camper.

  1200. Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    Why even have the defense on the field then…right?..
    ====================================================

    Yeah, in a way. As little as possible, anyway.

  1201. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    eastoaklandraider Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 3:01 pm
    DAV, AZ and STL are potential trade partners. If Joeckel drops to 3 I would think the Cardinals would want him. As for STL the MAY want to jump up to grab Millner. If we can drop down a few spots and pick Warmack then pick up Barret Jones in the second I would be a very happy camper.

    —-

    STL just signed Finnegan and drafted Jenkins.. Thyre not going after Milliner.

    They need a LT.

    Dont think Arizona will pay much or has that much to pay for a trade up.

  1202. The_Judge37 Says:

    1187.manassamauler Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 2:57 pm
    The_Judge37 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 2:55 pm

    1177.manassamauler Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 2:54 pm
    Andy Reids pick will determine what the Raiders do.
    ——

    They can’t really afford not to draft a QB.

    >. hope you’re right. you can start a rebuild with a LT as easy as a QB.
    —–

    Not when he’s protecting Matt Cassell or Brady Quinn you can’t.

  1203. Gdog Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 2:54 pm

    ..and Atlanta will lose this weekend because Matt Ryan will be on his back or getting hurried.

    We almost beat them the same way.

    The one game our pass rush showed up.
    >>>>>

    We lost because we only had 20 points. All eight teams alive averaged over 24 a game.

    ALL EIGHT TEAMS WERE IN THE TOP 11 IN SCORING!

    What more do you need, man?

    If there was a crappy offense getting by with defense alone, don’t you think there would be a team still alive doing just that?

  1204. shutdown Says:

    Derek Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:25 am
    Nolando needs to get out of that hick town. Most signatures can’t be read. Arrestrd for giving a false name, by some ignorant hick cop. Time to move on. Hicks hate affluent black men. Jealousy drives them crazy.
    _______________________

    Well, knowing young NFL ball players when it comes to not investing their money properly, and knowing the pattern of brain-dead behavior of one Rolando McClain, and knowing that Mr. McClain’s future isn’t what one would call “bright,” and knowing how really butt-face ugly he is, I doubt that even a small town hick cop is jealous of him. What’s to envy? Nothing.

  1205. John David Booty Says:

    The_Judge37 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 2:55 pm
    1177.manassamauler Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 2:54 pm
    Andy Reids pick will determine what the Raiders do.
    ——

    They can’t really afford not to draft a QB.
    ———————————————–
    Thats what we would hope. But theres no QB worth taking #1. I see KC taking Joeckel and not looking back. If you cant get the franchise QB, you go and get the next best thing; the man that will protect him. Joeckel #1 to KC. I think its Jaguars who will determine what we do, way more than KC, because I think both the Jags and ourselves will be targeting the same defensive players to a degree.

  1206. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    STL or Miami are the only trade targets I see at this point.

    They’re really the only teams with ammo to move up. And a need.

  1207. Gdog Says:

    Why even have the defense on the field then…right?..

    >>>>>

    Name the team playing yet that got by with a great defense ONLY.

    I will wait….

  1208. The_Judge37 Says:

    KC can’t afford to go into Next season with the Same QB’s they’ve had. They just can’t. It’s been said before with guys like Bradford that there’s no QB worth #1, but they take em anyways.

  1209. eastoaklandraider Says:

    I think Atl will have a hard time with Sea, they match up well with them imo. Sea stops the run and they have those big physical corners to bump Julio and White, plus Atl’s D is not that great outside of John Abraham I can see Lynch having a nice game as well.

  1210. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Gdog Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 3:05 pm
    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 2:54 pm

    ..and Atlanta will lose this weekend because Matt Ryan will be on his back or getting hurried.

    We almost beat them the same way.

    The one game our pass rush showed up.
    >>>>>

    We lost because we only had 20 points. All eight teams alive averaged over 24 a game.

    ALL EIGHT TEAMS WERE IN THE TOP 11 IN SCORING!

    What more do you need, man?

    If there was a crappy offense getting by with defense alone, don’t you think there would be a team still alive doing just that?

    —-

    Thats fine.

    And just about all the teams still alive have a good to elite pass rusher.

    We have nothing.

    You can stop the scoring if the QB is on his back. PERIOD.

  1211. The_Judge37 Says:

    1208.Gdog Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 3:06 pm
    Why even have the defense on the field then…right?..

    >>>>>

    Name the team playing yet that got by with a great defense ONLY.

    I will wait….
    ——

    Seattle.

  1212. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Gdog Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 3:06 pm
    Why even have the defense on the field then…right?..

    >>>>>

    Name the team playing yet that got by with a great defense ONLY.

    I will wait….

    —-

    Name the team that got by with an offense ONLY.

    Ill wait too..

  1213. shutdown Says:

    “IMHO,THE POLICE HAD TO KNOW WHO THEY WERE DEALING WITH B4 THEY PULL’D HIM OVER.DO THEY REALLY PULL “ADULTS” OVER FOR TINTED WINDOWS ?”

    The cop probably did know who he was because it’s a small town and someone on a thread said McClain’s plates announced who he was (don’t know if that’s accurate, though), but I can say that in my town it’s common to get pulled over and ticketed for windows that are too dark because of the gang violence that exists. Plus, it’s a way to fill empty city coffers.

  1214. Gdog Says:

    Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 3:03 pm

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    Why even have the defense on the field then…right?..
    ====================================================

    Yeah, in a way. As little as possible, anyway.

    >>>>>

    Eight of the top 11 teams in scoring are still playing football.

    And Visor-boy wants us to spend our top pick on a sack master.

    Which will gain us what, one more win next season?

    Sacks can wait until we have a SB quality team. WE NEED MORE POINTS!

  1215. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    GDog you must be New Orleans GM..

    LOL..

    Hows that offense only working out for you?..

    Enjoy the playoffs.

  1216. lefty12 Says:

    Wouldn’t surprise me if KC didn’t trade for a QB instead of drafting one.

  1217. Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    Everyone likes to talk tradedown..
    But you need to have a logical partner to trade with.
    Explain that part in your scenarios too…Or its kind of a waste of time.
    =======================================================
    Need to know who’s there at #3 to logically name a partner. And everyone likes to talk draft which is also a waste of time…

  1218. eastoaklandraider Says:

    1208.The_Judge37 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 3:07 pm
    KC can’t afford to go into Next season with the Same QB’s they’ve had. They just can’t. It’s been said before with guys like Bradford that there’s no QB worth #1, but they take em anyways.

    —————–

    Mike Vick is coming to the AFC West, that will allow the Chiefs to draft Joeckel if they desire.

  1219. The_Judge37 Says:

    1213.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 3:09 pm
    Gdog Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 3:06 pm
    Why even have the defense on the field then…right?..

    >>>>>

    Name the team playing yet that got by with a great defense ONLY.

    I will wait….

    —-

    Name the team that got by with an offense ONLY.

    Ill wait too..
    —–

    Green Bay…. Damm i am good at this game

  1220. manassamauler Says:

    eastoaklandraider Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 3:01 pm

    DAV, AZ and STL are potential trade partners. If Joeckel drops to 3 I would think the Cardinals would want him. As for STL the MAY want to jump up to grab Millner. If we can drop down a few spots and pick Warmack then pick up Barret Jones in the second I would be a very happy camper.

    >. seeing a plan here. draft Oline, fix this once and for all. would have a young talented physical line. Raiders would still suck next year but at least will have built the Line. draft a Franchise QB in 14. barret Jones would be the franchise center for 12 years. Warmack would beast on the right side. they both can be had if the Rams trade wil part with their 16,22 picks.

  1221. Gdog Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 3:09 pm

    Gdog Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 3:06 pm
    Why even have the defense on the field then…right?..

    >>>>>

    Name the team playing yet that got by with a great defense ONLY.

    I will wait….

    —-

    Name the team that got by with an offense ONLY.

    >>>>

    When 8 of them were in the top 11 in scoring?

    ALL OF THEM.

    Pssstt.. having a good offense brings your defensive stats up too… teams throw their playbooks out when behind.

    Does this REALLY need to be explained to you?

  1222. manassamauler Says:

    lefty12 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 3:10 pm

    Wouldn’t surprise me if KC didn’t trade for a QB instead of drafting one.

    >. Queefs could easily trade for alice smith.

  1223. The Big Banana Says:

    Lol, Judge!

  1224. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 3:11 pm
    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    Everyone likes to talk tradedown..
    But you need to have a logical partner to trade with.
    Explain that part in your scenarios too…Or its kind of a waste of time.
    =======================================================
    Need to know who’s there at #3 to logically name a partner. And everyone likes to talk draft which is also a waste of time…

    —-

    No, a trade partner needs to have picks to trade. That info is available now :)

  1225. The_Judge37 Says:

    1219.eastoaklandraider Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 3:12 pm
    1208.The_Judge37 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 3:07 pm
    KC can’t afford to go into Next season with the Same QB’s they’ve had. They just can’t. It’s been said before with guys like Bradford that there’s no QB worth #1, but they take em anyways.

    —————–

    Mike Vick is coming to the AFC West, that will allow the Chiefs to draft Joeckel if they desire.
    —–

    No way the Chiefs would let that already failed experiment happen again in KC

  1226. eastoaklandraider Says:

    1211.The_Judge37 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 3:08 pm
    1208.Gdog Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 3:06 pm
    Why even have the defense on the field then…right?..

    >>>>>

    Name the team playing yet that got by with a great defense ONLY.

    I will wait….
    ——

    Seattle.

    Agreed Seattle.

  1227. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    The_Judge37 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 3:12 pm
    1213.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 3:09 pm
    Gdog Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 3:06 pm
    Why even have the defense on the field then…right?..

    >>>>>

    Name the team playing yet that got by with a great defense ONLY.

    I will wait….

    —-

    Name the team that got by with an offense ONLY.

    Ill wait too..
    —–

    Green Bay…. Damm i am good at this game

    —-

    Clay Matthews, BJ Raji, AJ Hawk..

    What round were those guys drafted in again??..

  1228. John David Booty Says:

    The_Judge37 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 3:07 pm
    KC can’t afford to go into Next season with the Same QB’s they’ve had. They just can’t. It’s been said before with guys like Bradford that there’s no QB worth #1, but they take em anyways.
    ————————————————
    Yep, I know what youre saying. Its just not happening this year. Who are the top QBs this year:

    Geno Smith, West Virginia
    Matt Barkley, USC
    Tyler Wilson, Arkansas, Jr.
    EJ Manuel, Florida St.
    Aaron Murray, Georgia, Jr.
    Landry Jones, Oklahoma
    Tyler Bray, Tennessee, Jr.
    Ryan Nassib, Syracuse
    Mike Glennon, North Carolina St.
    Zac Dysert, Miami(OH)

    KC is not spending the #1 pick on any of these guys, no matter how much we would love it.

    I think its more likely that they try to swing a trade for a QB like Flynn, instead of taking their chances on any of these guys in the 1st. Im gonna keep my money on Joeckel to go #1.

    But if youre right, and KC picks ANY QB #1, I’ll be happy. Because they would have blown the pick BIG TIME.

  1229. eastoaklandraider Says:

    1225.The_Judge37 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 3:14 pm
    1219.eastoaklandraider Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 3:12 pm
    1208.The_Judge37 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 3:07 pm
    KC can’t afford to go into Next season with the Same QB’s they’ve had. They just can’t. It’s been said before with guys like Bradford that there’s no QB worth #1, but they take em anyways.

    —————–

    Mike Vick is coming to the AFC West, that will allow the Chiefs to draft Joeckel if they desire.
    —–

    No way the Chiefs would let that already failed experiment happen again in KC

    ——————-

    Vick wasnt the problem in Philly, the Oline was and with the Chiefs potentially taking Joeckel their line would improve a bit.

  1230. SR Raider Says:

    Raji and Hawk were two guys I really wanted in the draft…Hope Reggie can find some gems like these in this years draft

  1231. manassamauler Says:

    I think its more likely that they try to swing a trade for a QB like Flynn, instead of taking their chances on any of these guys in the 1st. Im gonna keep my money on Joeckel to go #1.

    But if youre right, and KC picks ANY QB #1, I’ll be happy. Because they would have blown the pick BIG TIME.

    >> if Queefs pick Joeckel that will fuk the Raiders trade down chances unless AZ has a woody for Geno.

  1232. The_Judge37 Says:

    Clay Matthews, BJ Raji, AJ Hawk..

    What round were those guys drafted in again??..
    ——

    Well their defense hasn’t been playing well. Didn’t know this was about draft picks but since you’re going to cheat, then i’ll just take my ball and leave.

  1233. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Whats more amazing is all the teams left in the playoffs have used multiple picks in the last 2 drafts on…….

    wait fot it……

    DEFENSE!!

    :)

  1234. morilla Says:

    Hmmm, NFL Network reported that Gruden is interested in coming back and coaching again but only for the right teams.

  1235. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    The_Judge37 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 3:17 pm
    Clay Matthews, BJ Raji, AJ Hawk..

    What round were those guys drafted in again??..
    ——

    Well their defense hasn’t been playing well. Didn’t know this was about draft picks but since you’re going to cheat, then i’ll just take my ball and leave.

    —-

    LOL

    He’s saying we only need to draft offense.

    Defense isnt important.

  1236. lefty12 Says:

    If KC passes on a QB wouldn’t you think Ariz might want to trade up and try and get a QB?They don’t have one unless they decide to stick with Kolb.Or could they sit where they are and still get Smith if he is available?

  1237. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    Whats more amazing is all the teams left in the playoffs have used multiple picks in the last 2 drafts on…….

    wait fot it……

    DEFENSE!!

    :)

    :)

    :)

    :)

    :)

  1238. DennisAllensVisor Says:

    8)

    God Bless, im out…

  1239. The_Judge37 Says:

    It’s going to be a pretty safe bet that KC takes a QB. Don’t know who, or care if it’s worth it, but it will be a QB. No doubt about it.

  1240. DaRaiders022 Says:

    manassamauler Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 10:47 pm
    RM resigned Branch and called him a “blue collar”guy or whatever. dude NEVER makes any impact plays. not a guy you pay big $$$ for. would be great of OAK could get a FS to QB that secondary.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Branch can’t cover premier WR’s and couldn’t tackle Betty White if he had to! We need physical DB’s who make plays consistently! Adios Branch!

  1241. eastoaklandraider Says:

    I think Tyler Bray and Tyler Wilson are legit qb prospects both have accuracy and both have strong arms.

  1242. lefty12 Says:

    Reid won’t bring Vick to KC-been there,done that.Vick will signas a BU somewhere.His starting days are over.He can’t be counted on to play more than half the season.

  1243. eastoaklandraider Says:

    1241.eastoaklandraider Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 3:21 pm
    I think Tyler Bray and Tyler Wilson are legit qb prospects both have accuracy and both have strong arms.

    ————–

    BTW both faced stiff comp.

  1244. The_Judge37 Says:

    Vick wasnt the problem in Philly, the Oline was and with the Chiefs potentially taking Joeckel their line would improve a bit.
    ——

    Heard that in Atlanta too. Stop trying to make the guy out to be Barry Sanders. He’s a terrible QB. I’d love for him to go to KC, then talk Denver into signing his brother. But it’s just not going to happen.

  1245. The_Judge37 Says:

    1243.lefty12 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 3:23 pm
    Reid won’t bring Vick to KC-been there,done that.Vick will signas a BU somewhere.His starting days are over.He can’t be counted on to play more than half the season.
    —-

    It’s not that he wouldn’t, it’s that he can’t. Pretty sure it’s not going to fly with the Owner if a HC wants to bring the main peices of what he failed with at his last job.

  1246. manassamauler Says:

    The_Judge37 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 3:25 pm

    Vick wasnt the problem in Philly, the Oline was and with the Chiefs potentially taking Joeckel their line would improve a bit.
    ——

    Heard that in Atlanta too. Stop trying to make the guy out to be Barry Sanders. He’s a terrible QB. I’d love for him to go to KC, then talk Denver into signing his brother. But it’s just not going to happen.

    >. but Vick is better than Elway…PERIOD!! can’t help it, dumbest comment i’ve read on here.

  1247. eastoaklandraider Says:

    Vick and Reid are quite close I hear, and Vick does know the offense which sound like a good fit and start for Reid in KC and he wont have to spend much on Vick and they can draft their qb of the future in the 2nd or next year if Vick flops or gets injured.

  1248. manassamauler Says:

    DaRaiders022 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 3:21 pm

    manassamauler Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 10:47 pm
    RM resigned Branch and called him a “blue collar”guy or whatever. dude NEVER makes any impact plays. not a guy you pay big $$$ for. would be great of OAK could get a FS to QB that secondary.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Branch can’t cover premier WR’s and couldn’t tackle Betty White if he had to! We need physical DB’s who make plays consistently! Adios Branch!

    >. raiders need a LOT on defense. DT,DE,OLB, #1 COrner, starting quality Free safety too.

  1249. KoolKell Says:

    but Vick is better than Elway…PERIOD!! can’t help it, dumbest comment i’ve read on here.
    ———————–
    Last nite you were hating on RG3, Today it’s Vick. Wanna bring any white QB’s in the mix?

    How bout Tim Teabow?

  1250. eastoaklandraider Says:

    I’m not some big Vick fan but dont act like he had no success in Philly when he was protected well, was in convo for MVP just a couple short years ago.

  1251. Raider O Says:

    Marks Hair Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 12:34 pm
    Now i know why raider o just keeps writing lol… trying to argue with someone who is this illogical is pointless.. you throw the short passes to avoid getting hits that would injure you and deraill your career by the way.. thays why he lasted.. smarter..
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$

    LOL
    You shouldn’t argue with ignorance. You have 2 options, you can laugh at it/ them, or you can ignore it/ them.

  1252. DaRaiders022 Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 2:57 pm
    Manti TEO is a joke LMAO!!!
    ===================================

    Sadly, yes. Once Teo got matched up against future NFLers instead of glorified high schoolers, he looked quite ordinary really
    **************************
    Bama and other SEC teams have bad-ass playas who we should look to draft! Talent is there now go get it Reg!

  1253. eastoaklandraider Says:

    I think Vick would Flourish with a good running team or a team that would use him like RGIII and Kappy.

  1254. Gdog Says:

    eastoaklandraider Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 3:14 pm

    1211.The_Judge37 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 3:08 pm
    1208.Gdog Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 3:06 pm
    Why even have the defense on the field then…right?..

    >>>>>

    Name the team playing yet that got by with a great defense ONLY.

    I will wait….
    ——

    Seattle.

    Agreed Seattle.

    >>>>

    8th in scoring.

  1255. John David Booty Says:

    Eastoaklandraider Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 3:31 pm
    I’m not some big Vick fan but dont act like he had no success in Philly when he was protected well, was in convo for MVP just a couple short years ago.
    ———————————————–
    Vick with Jamaal Charles, Dexter McCluster, Tony Moeaki, Peyton Hillis, Cyrus Gray, Steve Breaston.

    The Chiefs are gonna let Branden Albert walk and replace him with Joeckel #1. Not resigning Albert will give them room to resign Bowe.

    When you start looking at things from that angle, Vick could work for them. At the least, it would make things a little more interesting in the AFC West.

  1256. eastoaklandraider Says:

    1255.John David Booty Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 3:42 pm
    Eastoaklandraider Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 3:31 pm
    I’m not some big Vick fan but dont act like he had no success in Philly when he was protected well, was in convo for MVP just a couple short years ago.
    ———————————————–
    Vick with Jamaal Charles, Dexter McCluster, Tony Moeaki, Peyton Hillis, Cyrus Gray, Steve Breaston.

    The Chiefs are gonna let Branden Albert walk and replace him with Joeckel #1. Not resigning Albert will give them room to resign Bowe.

    When you start looking at things from that angle, Vick could work for them. At the least, it would make things a little more interesting in the AFC West.

    —————–

    The chiefs would look good on paper imo.

  1257. John David Booty Says:

    Gdog Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 3:42 pm
    eastoaklandraider Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 3:14 pm

    1211.The_Judge37 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 3:08 pm
    1208.Gdog Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 3:06 pm
    Why even have the defense on the field then…right?..

    >>>>>

    Name the team playing yet that got by with a great defense ONLY.

    I will wait….
    ——

    Seattle.

    Agreed Seattle.

    >>>>

    8th in scoring.
    ———————————————–
    +1. Seattles is one of the most balanced teams in the league offensive/defensive. When that offense is rollin, especially with Beast Mode and since they installed some read option to get Russell movement, theyve been pretty tough to stop. Over the 2nd half of the season, their offense has been VERY fluid.

  1258. Gdog Says:

    8 of the top 11 teams in scoring are still playing.
    3 of the top 11 teams in sacks are still playing.

    Visor-boy thinks sacks are more important?

    I dunno…

  1259. eastoaklandraider Says:

    DEN- Manning

    SD- Rivers

    OAK- Palmer

    KC- Vick

    —-

    Thats tough to face for 6 games.

  1260. Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:

    DennisAllensVisor Says:
    No, a trade partner needs to have picks to trade. That info is available now
    =====================================================

    Factor in future drafts, trading players, three way trades, compensatory picks, eic., and it gets pretty murky.

  1261. The_Judge37 Says:

    1251.eastoaklandraider Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 3:31 pm
    I’m not some big Vick fan but dont act like he had no success in Philly when he was protected well, was in convo for MVP just a couple short years ago.
    ——

    I’m not a Vick hater for any other reason that he sucks. He did not have much success in Philly. THeir record shows that.

    “When he’s protected” could be the same argument for Carson Palmer.

  1262. eastoaklandraider Says:

    1257.John David Booty Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 3:45 pm
    Gdog Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 3:42 pm
    eastoaklandraider Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 3:14 pm

    1211.The_Judge37 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 3:08 pm
    1208.Gdog Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 3:06 pm
    Why even have the defense on the field then…right?..

    >>>>>

    Name the team playing yet that got by with a great defense ONLY.

    I will wait….
    ——

    Seattle.

    Agreed Seattle.

    >>>>

    8th in scoring.
    ———————————————–
    +1. Seattles is one of the most balanced teams in the league offensive/defensive. When that offense is rollin, especially with Beast Mode and since they installed some read option to get Russell movement, theyve been pretty tough to stop. Over the 2nd half of the season, their offense has been VERY fluid.

    ———–

    Where would Seattle be without that #1 D giving them the ball back repeatedly? Not very good imo they remind me of DEN last year except RW is better than Tebow, and now that DEN has a real qb to go with that D look at them now.

  1263. lefty12 Says:

    “When he’s protected” could be the same argument for Carson Palmer.
    ==============================
    Or just about any NFL QB.

  1264. morilla Says:

    I think Reid would try to pull Flynn to KC more than he would Vick.

    And I like Vick too, I think he’s turned his career around and had that stellar season last year. He’ll show up somewhere and start.

  1265. JLofty Says:

    Yeah our last few SEC draft picks turned out SO well…

  1266. Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:

    The_Judge37 Says:
    It’s going to be a pretty safe bet that KC takes a QB. Don’t know who, or care if it’s worth it, but it will be a QB. No doubt about it.
    ======================================================

    Then they may likely trade down?

  1267. morilla Says:

    Actually, if Gruden goes to Philly Vick might just stick around.

  1268. eastoaklandraider Says:

    1261.The_Judge37 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 3:51 pm
    1251.eastoaklandraider Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 3:31 pm
    I’m not some big Vick fan but dont act like he had no success in Philly when he was protected well, was in convo for MVP just a couple short years ago.
    ——

    I’m not a Vick hater for any other reason that he sucks. He did not have much success in Philly. THeir record shows that.

    “When he’s protected” could be the same argument for Carson Palmer.

    ——————-

    Every QB need “protection” to be great without you may be pretty good but when it counts more times than not your qb will fail with bad oline play. Big Ben is the exception too this rule but he had a great D to carry the team. And now that Pitt is getting long in the tooth on D and they havent really addressed the oline problems other than drafting Pouncey you see they are starting to move back to the pack.

  1269. DKnight007 Says:

    1253.eastoaklandraider Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 3:35 pm
    I think Vick would Flourish with a good running team or a team that would use him like RGIII and Kappy.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Bullcrap! Vick is done! The effects of being a running QB has taken it’s toll on him.

    The same can be said of Scam and RG3. You keep running the rock as a QB in the NFL, you will pay for it.

  1270. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Philadelphia & Detroit would move up to draft Joeckel.

    Reid cannot afford to not address his OLine again.

    I do not see Joeckel being available for us at three to work a trade down as much as I would like to see.

    Another team would have to really want one DE over another in order to trade with us.

  1271. The_Judge37 Says:

    1267.Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 3:56 pm
    The_Judge37 Says:
    It’s going to be a pretty safe bet that KC takes a QB. Don’t know who, or care if it’s worth it, but it will be a QB. No doubt about it.
    ======================================================

    Then they may likely trade down?
    ——–

    Same was said when the Rams took Sam Bradford. I don’t buy the whole, not worth a #1 pick deal even if it’s true. They’ll take a QB, and it will be a bad choice, and we’ll love em for it.

  1272. morilla Says:

    DKnight007 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 3:58 pm
    1253.eastoaklandraider Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 3:35 pm
    I think Vick would Flourish with a good running team or a team that would use him like RGIII and Kappy.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Bullcrap! Vick is done! The effects of being a running QB has taken it’s toll on him.

    The same can be said of Scam and RG3. You keep running the rock as a QB in the NFL, you will pay for it.
    ————

    Too a point this can be true. But Vick changed his game and became more of a pocket passer. He became more effective as a QB last year.

    I do agree with you on running QBs. The wave of the future will get you 6-12 months of rehab. That style of play won’t fly for the long term. Not when you are 215 lbs and getting blasted. I don’t see RGIII being the same again. He’s either going to keep playing his style and get killed or the coaches are going to force him to change his game. And he might just have to because his knee is never going to be the same.

  1273. DKnight007 Says:

    1194.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 2:59 pm
    DKnight007 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 2:55 pm
    1142.DennisAllensVisor Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 2:44 pm
    Having a 2nd round pick would be nice.

    Thanks Hue.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Thanks Davis and McK for not keeping Hue around so he can work with the QB he traded for a full season.

    In turn…the team went downhill

    —-

    LOL.

    Hue Jackson doesnt correct missing blocks, dropping balls, throwing picks, missing tackles etc..

    Such a powereful guy to be a DB/ST assistant…LOL

    ^^^^^^^^
    Such a powerful guy for the rookie owner and rookie GM to be afraid of and then hire a deer in the headlights yes man with no balls in Tits DA. LOL

  1274. eastoaklandraider Says:

    1269.DKnight007 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 3:58 pm
    1253.eastoaklandraider Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 3:35 pm
    I think Vick would Flourish with a good running team or a team that would use him like RGIII and Kappy.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Bullcrap! Vick is done! The effects of being a running QB has taken it’s toll on him.

    The same can be said of Scam and RG3. You keep running the rock as a QB in the NFL, you will pay for it.

    ————

    007, please man you thought Manti TE’O was a world beater your cred/opinion is kind shot at the moment.

  1275. DKnight007 Says:

    791.manassamauler Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 11:25 am
    hopefully the Queefs take Geno instead of Joeckel at 1. then the Jags take jarvis jones? if the LT is there at 3 OAK can trade down easier. Rams look like a partner OR even the cards. rams have a 16th and 22nd picks. would nice.

    ^^^^^^^
    I agree with that. It will a bit easier for McK to trade down if the LT Joekel falls to us at #3.

    Some teams may want to move up for him. have to find desperate teams or teams with ammo like Rams and Fins.

    Rams need OLine help.

  1276. The_Judge37 Says:

    Such a powerful guy for the rookie owner and rookie GM to be afraid of and then hire a deer in the headlights yes man with no balls in Tits DA. LOL
    ——

    I think there’s some truth to Mark making the call on Hue, about him wanting to get rid of everyone who didn’t respect him. Either way can’t put all the blame on Hue for the Trade. It’s also on the People let a Rookie HC become his own GM.

  1277. John David Booty Says:

    RaiderRetribution Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 4:00 pm
    Philadelphia & Detroit would move up to draft Joeckel.

    Reid cannot afford to not address his OLine again.

    I do not see Joeckel being available for us at three to work a trade down as much as I would like to see.

    Another team would have to really want one DE over another in order to trade with us.
    —————————————-
    Thats how I see it. Reid isnt going to leave his things to the O-line again. Joeckel is looking real attractive to him right about now. Especially with Branden Albert getting ready to walk. Id actually be willing to bet that Reid even thinks he could get some production out of Cassell or Quinn before he would ignore the O-line in his new job. I just dont see KC passing Joeckel up. And if they did, for some odd reason, Jacksonville then becomes the attractive trade partner, not us. Im just hoping that Reggie gets the pick right, because at #3, regardless of what KC or Jags do, there WILL be an elite defensive prospect available for us. Reggie better not let his gut make a dumb @ss draft decision.

  1278. DKnight007 Says:

    1274.eastoaklandraider Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 4:05 pm
    1269.DKnight007 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 3:58 pm
    1253.eastoaklandraider Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 3:35 pm
    I think Vick would Flourish with a good running team or a team that would use him like RGIII and Kappy.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Bullcrap! Vick is done! The effects of being a running QB has taken it’s toll on him.

    The same can be said of Scam and RG3. You keep running the rock as a QB in the NFL, you will pay for it.

    ————

    007, please man you thought Manti TE’O was a world beater your cred/opinion is kind shot at the moment.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Just because Te’o didn’t play well in one game versus Bama?

    Please….lets see what he does when he gets to the NFL, before you start feeling yourself up.

    Last I looked your boys Moore and Werner adn Jones didn’t do crap in the Bowl games either!

  1279. eastoaklandraider Says:

    You guys kill me with this stuff of running qb’s getting hurt, qb’s get hurt period doesnt matter it be running or standing in the pocket. Manning and Brady have both missed signifigant time because of injuries as have our own CP3 and Drew Brees so that argument is kinda lame. BTW Steve Young Ran alot and I dont remember him having many injuries.

  1280. Gdog Says:

    Where would Seattle be without that #1 D giving them the ball back repeatedly? Not very good imo they remind me of DEN last year except RW is better than Tebow, and now that DEN has a real qb to go with that D look at them now.

    >>>>

    There is always an exception to every rule, and yes, Sea (and SF) are getting by mostly with defense right now (as did Den before Manning showed up).

    But when you see a stat that ALL eight teams still alive are averaging a full TD a game more than the Raiders, I just don’t see how sacks can make that much difference next year.

    Yes, our defense is horrible, and its tempting to start attacking it now, but I still think the QUICKEST fix is offense. Its been ten years since I’ve watched a playoff game.

    Allen and McK need to do something QUICK to get us back there… even if its one and done. I simply don’t think that can be achieved with defense.

  1281. Whats a Drexl? Says:

    Krikey M8!

    Is that the gangnam style hoe down MacCheese is attempting in that photo or is he seriously grabbing his package?

    Either way, priceless.

  1282. The_Judge37 Says:

    Just because Te’o didn’t play well in one game versus Bama?
    ———

    True, last time i did that was when Russell beat Quinn in a bowl game.

  1283. DKnight007 Says:

    The_Judge37 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 4:07 pm
    Such a powerful guy for the rookie owner and rookie GM to be afraid of and then hire a deer in the headlights yes man with no balls in Tits DA. LOL
    ——

    I think there’s some truth to Mark making the call on Hue, about him wanting to get rid of everyone who didn’t respect him. Either way can’t put all the blame on Hue for the Trade. It’s also on the People let a Rookie HC become his own GM

    ^^^^^^^
    Blame Hue for the trade yes….but we will never know the true value of the trade since Hue wasn’t around to work with CP for a full year in his system that had an efficient running game.

    We also don’t know who the Raiders would haev picked with that 1st rounder last year and if he would have produced. Don’t know the same thing about this years 2nd rounder either.

  1284. eastoaklandraider Says:

    Just because Te’o didn’t play well in one game versus Bama?

    —————

    Thats the only good team he faced all year except Stanford and they should have lost that game. The guy is all hype and got fat on weak opponents, he will be lucky to be avg in the pros.

  1285. The_Judge37 Says:

    1280.eastoaklandraider Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 4:09 pm
    You guys kill me with this stuff of running qb’s getting hurt, qb’s get hurt period doesnt matter it be running or standing in the pocket. Manning and Brady have both missed signifigant time because of injuries as have our own CP3 and Drew Brees so that argument is kinda lame. BTW Steve Young Ran alot and I dont remember him having many injuries.
    ——–

    Running QB’s don’t suck because they get hurt, it’s when they get old and can’t out run anyone anymore that they suck.

  1286. morilla Says:

    Eastoaklandraider Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 4:09 pm
    You guys kill me with this stuff of running qb’s getting hurt, qb’s get hurt period doesnt matter it be running or standing in the pocket. Manning and Brady have both missed signifigant time because of injuries as have our own CP3 and Drew Brees so that argument is kinda lame. BTW Steve Young Ran alot and I dont remember him having many injuries.
    ————-

    It increases the chance of sustaining a injury. That is a fact.

    Open field, vulnerable with everyone gunning for you. It ups the percentage.

  1287. KoolKell Says:

    Just because Te’o didn’t play well in one game versus Bama?
    ———————–
    Bama played well against T’eo

  1288. Dan78 Says:

    Reggie’s gut will tell him to draft a double whopper w’ shheeeees…

  1289. JLofty Says:

    Don’t think the Raiders are going to go with the quick fix.
    That ship was sitting at the harbor all gassed up last year and they let it sail.
    HAVE to fix the D. The O will be better simply with Knapp gone. The pieces of a good maybe even REALLY good O are there. Cannot believe how bad they $#it the bed on that this season…
    Need some WRs who can catch though…

  1290. eastoaklandraider Says:

    Last I looked your boys Moore and Werner adn Jones didn’t do crap in the Bowl games either!

    ———–

    Moore’s body of work is far superior to Manti he faced stiff comp in the SEC and led that league in sacks and he also led his team in tackles from a DE position which is hard to do, btw he’s only 21.

  1291. eastoaklandraider Says:

    1286.morilla Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 4:13 pm
    Eastoaklandraider Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 4:09 pm
    You guys kill me with this stuff of running qb’s getting hurt, qb’s get hurt period doesnt matter it be running or standing in the pocket. Manning and Brady have both missed signifigant time because of injuries as have our own CP3 and Drew Brees so that argument is kinda lame. BTW Steve Young Ran alot and I dont remember him having many injuries.
    ————-

    It increases the chance of sustaining a injury. That is a fact.

    Open field, vulnerable with everyone gunning for you. It ups the percentage.

    —————

    all they have to do is learn to SLIDE.

  1292. DKnight007 Says:

    1287.KoolKell Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 4:15 pm
    Just because Te’o didn’t play well in one game versus Bama?
    ———————–
    Bama played well against T’eo

    ^^^^^^^^
    Bama played well against the whole damn ND team! Lol

  1293. The_Judge37 Says:

    all they have to do is learn to SLIDE.
    ——–

    If only Rich Gannon learned when to slide….

  1294. eastoaklandraider Says:

    1292.DKnight007 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 4:20 pm
    1287.KoolKell Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 4:15 pm
    Just because Te’o didn’t play well in one game versus Bama?
    ———————–
    Bama played well against T’eo

    ^^^^^^^^
    Bama played well against the whole damn ND team! Lol
    ————

    Let it go 007 Te’o isnt what you thought he was and I tried to warn you.

  1295. eastoaklandraider Says:

    No way are Ray Lweis or Brian Urlacher non factors in a game like that the way Manti was in any point in their careers.

  1296. JLofty Says:

    It ain’t going to be their knees that keeps running QB out of action. Just like Steve Young, it’ll be there heads…

  1297. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    I have to comment on this romac article.

    In know way do i want to excuse the behavior of this young man, he is however clearly a deeply troubled person.

    I feel that romac is a cautionary tale for all black people, as the trappings of his upbringing and the conditions he faced have produced this result. While it is easy to point the dirty end of the stick at romac fro the way he has handled himself in his young manhood, it is fair to consider that a person that has been through what he has may have a difficult time making rational decisions. In Fact based on the incidents with guns and violence he has been involved going back to his bama days, it is safe to say that if not for being a famous football player romac would be in or headed fro prison.

    Romac shows all of the signs of mental illness. This is rampant in our community. Unfortunately because he is such a high profile person, his story is a spectacle. However you can go into any so called hood and find young men suffering from the same illness and facing similar circumstances in their formative years, and there after.

    Violence, and a clear pattern of being disconnected with his own reality, are sure signs of post slavery syndrome.

    We must find a way to educate our own youth so that we may have young men like romac serve as viable warriors and not the frankenstein’s monsters nearly 500 years of slavery have sought to make us.

    This is the result of having your captors name, celebrating his holidays, worshiping his gods, eating his diet, and so on. This is what happens when a person has lost the knowledge of self. A person that has lost the knowledge of self is susceptible to living the life of a savage or cave man.

    This is sadly also the way we are often characterized inn the media, as a tragic story of this magnitude is made to represent all black males.

    Look at this picture, it shows romac on fire with violence and rage screaming wildly while holding his genitalia. The classic brute image.

    I wish him well and hope he can find one of our many clinical specialist in the mental health field. You can only counter the effort to produce this result with countering so called amerikkkan culture all together.

    romac is a cuationary tale that should be shared with every black youth especially those in sports

  1298. 995Raider Says:

    Teo looked pretty butt hurt at NDs presser. Not they type of Raider we would like him to be. I underdstand being down, but butt hurt? Please, cry me a fckng river.

  1299. John David Booty Says:

    Gdog Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 4:10 pm
    Where would Seattle be without that #1 D giving them the ball back repeatedly? Not very good imo they remind me of DEN last year except RW is better than Tebow, and now that DEN has a real qb to go with that D look at them now.

    >>>>

    There is always an exception to every rule, and yes, Sea (and SF) are getting by mostly with defense right now (as did Den before Manning showed up).

    But when you see a stat that ALL eight teams still alive are averaging a full TD a game more than the Raiders, I just don’t see how sacks can make that much difference next year.

    Yes, our defense is horrible, and its tempting to start attacking it now, but I still think the QUICKEST fix is offense. Its been ten years since I’ve watched a playoff game.

    Allen and McK need to do something QUICK to get us back there… even if its one and done. I simply don’t think that can be achieved with defense.
    ———————————————-
    I agree with you that the quickest fix for THIS team would be offense. But I think we have the personnel to score points as is, and that we just need a creative OC/playcaller to utilize the weapons we have. The offense was already GOOD in 2011, and we didnt lose any major pieces, aside from Bush. We can improve the line, we can improve at WR, yes, but I just really feel that this offense is a good OC away from being a force. Just too many speed mismatches.

  1300. DKnight007 Says:

    1295.eastoaklandraider Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 4:26 pm
    No way are Ray Lweis or Brian Urlacher non factors in a game like that the way Manti was in any point in their careers.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Hypotheticals.

    Let it go for now fool.

    Let’s wait until Te’o gets to the NFL and see what he does.

  1301. eastoaklandraider Says:

    1293.The_Judge37 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 4:21 pm
    all they have to do is learn to SLIDE.
    ——–

    If only Rich Gannon learned when to slide….

    —-

    Didnt Rich go head first? But yeah RG3 better learn to slid same with Cam and any other dual threat qb.

  1302. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    back in a few days

    peace

  1303. DKnight007 Says:

    1290.eastoaklandraider Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 4:16 pm
    Last I looked your boys Moore and Werner adn Jones didn’t do crap in the Bowl games either!

    ———–

    Moore’s body of work is far superior to Manti he faced stiff comp in the SEC and led that league in sacks and he also led his team in tackles from a DE position which is hard to do, btw he’s only 21.

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Didn’t Jamarcus and McLain face stiff competition in the SEC also?

    How they turn out?

  1304. DKnight007 Says:

    Didn’t Glenn Dorsey face “stiff” competition in the SEC also?

    How he turn out?

  1305. eastoaklandraider Says:

    1300.DKnight007 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 4:29 pm
    1295.eastoaklandraider Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 4:26 pm
    No way are Ray Lweis or Brian Urlacher non factors in a game like that the way Manti was in any point in their careers.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Hypotheticals.

    Let it go for now fool.

    Let’s wait until Te’o gets to the NFL and see what he does.

    ————–

    That Bama oline is basically a rookie pro line so we’ve already seen what he can do against pro talent, DISAPEAR. Fool.

  1306. eastoaklandraider Says:

    1303.DKnight007 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 4:31 pm
    1290.eastoaklandraider Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 4:16 pm
    Last I looked your boys Moore and Werner adn Jones didn’t do crap in the Bowl games either!

    ———–

    Moore’s body of work is far superior to Manti he faced stiff comp in the SEC and led that league in sacks and he also led his team in tackles from a DE position which is hard to do, btw he’s only 21.

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Didn’t Jamarcus and McLain face stiff competition in the SEC also?

    How they turn out?

    ————

    Is that the best you can do to discredit Moore?

  1307. Gdog Says:

    eastoaklandraider Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 4:30 pm

    1293.The_Judge37 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 4:21 pm
    all they have to do is learn to SLIDE.
    ——–

    If only Rich Gannon learned when to slide….

    —-

    Didnt Rich go head first?

    >>>

    Yup. I was actually at that game. The last time I was in Oakland.

    I witnessed our franchise going to hell in a split second.

  1308. papertiger418 Says:

    RoMac is definitely swinging for the fences with this latest fiasco; only thing worse would have been the old Louis Murphy Viagra citation.

  1309. Dan78 Says:

    \DMAC ALSO faced stiff competion in the SEC?

  1310. JT Says:

    Back for some playoff talk.

    It looks like DA will be outcoached not only by John Fox, now Andy Reid, and whoever SD hires.

    DA will have to hire a superior OC for 2013, because this AFC West will be the Wild West ofensively.

    Lets face it, the raider O is far from being competive.

  1311. manassamauler Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 3:31 pm

    but Vick is better than Elway…PERIOD!! can’t help it, dumbest comment i’ve read on here.
    ———————–
    Last nite you were hating on RG3, Today it’s Vick. Wanna bring any white QB’s in the mix?

    How bout Tim Teabow?

    >> you aren’t to sharp are ya? go take a reading comprehension class.

  1312. Seymour Bush Says:

    eastoaklandraider Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 4:19 pm

    1286.morilla Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 4:13 pm
    Eastoaklandraider Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 4:09 pm
    You guys kill me with this stuff of running qb’s getting hurt, qb’s get hurt period doesnt matter it be running or standing in the pocket. Manning and Brady have both missed signifigant time because of injuries as have our own CP3 and Drew Brees so that argument is kinda lame. BTW Steve Young Ran alot and I dont remember him having many injuries.
    ————-

    It increases the chance of sustaining a injury. That is a fact.

    Open field, vulnerable with everyone gunning for you. It ups the percentage.

    —————

    all they have to do is learn to SLIDE.
    =============================================

    Not if they are running. If a Q is scrambling he gets protection per league rules. If a Q is acting like a RB, he is NOT afforded that luxury. You can take shots at them. And those are good rules. RB’s are built differently than Q’s. And as I have said 2,000 times in here, do you really want Tom Brady, Aaron Rogers, or Russell Wilson pretending to be Marshawn Lynch out there?

  1313. eastoaklandraider Says:

    I never wanted Jruss and Mcclain needs to be in a 3-4 imo to play up to standards. Glen is just a bust plain and simple but there are bust in every league some you can spot a mile away like Te’o.

  1314. Gdog Says:

    John David Booty Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 4:29 pm

    ———————————————-
    I agree with you that the quickest fix for THIS team would be offense. But I think we have the personnel to score points as is, and that we just need a creative OC/playcaller to utilize the weapons we have. The offense was already GOOD in 2011, and we didnt lose any major pieces, aside from Bush. We can improve the line, we can improve at WR, yes, but I just really feel that this offense is a good OC away from being a force. Just too many speed mismatches.

    >>>>

    Valid point.

    It seems a crapshoot though. I’d sure trust CP and McF with a robust line first though.

    Gannon didn’t turn into a MVP without one of the best lines in football.

  1315. KoolKell Says:

    Hypotheticals.

    Let it go for now fool.

    Let’s wait until Te’o gets to the NFL and see what he does.
    ———————–
    That’s always what I do, because I don’t watch college football.

    But, others are always claiming some college player will be the best in history.

    You should have took your own advice.

  1316. eastoaklandraider Says:

    1312.Seymour Bush Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 4:36 pm
    eastoaklandraider Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 4:19 pm

    1286.morilla Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 4:13 pm
    Eastoaklandraider Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 4:09 pm
    You guys kill me with this stuff of running qb’s getting hurt, qb’s get hurt period doesnt matter it be running or standing in the pocket. Manning and Brady have both missed signifigant time because of injuries as have our own CP3 and Drew Brees so that argument is kinda lame. BTW Steve Young Ran alot and I dont remember him having many injuries.
    ————-

    It increases the chance of sustaining a injury. That is a fact.

    Open field, vulnerable with everyone gunning for you. It ups the percentage.

    —————

    all they have to do is learn to SLIDE.
    =============================================

    Not if they are running. If a Q is scrambling he gets protection per league rules. If a Q is acting like a RB, he is NOT afforded that luxury. You can take shots at them. And those are good rules. RB’s are built differently than Q’s. And as I have said 2,000 times in here, do you really want Tom Brady, Aaron Rogers, or Russell Wilson pretending to be Marshawn Lynch out there?

    —————-

    You cannot hit the qb if he goes into a feet first slide.

  1317. JT Says:

    If Im Regie Mac:

    1-Im trading down in draft to get a 2nd round pick.
    2-Im trading 20 Dmac for a 2nd round pick.
    3-Im trading Rolando for a 3rd or 4th.

    That way my draft would be stocked in the first rounds.

    1 #1
    2 #2’s
    2 #3’s

    etc, etc

  1318. Gdog Says:

    Plus did you see the stats posted about how sure a thing a top 15 LT is? They are 3.5 times more likely to be a hit than a bust.

    There is no other position even close.

    Most are 50/50 props at best.

  1319. manassamauler Says:

    eastoaklandraider Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 4:09 pm

    You guys kill me with this stuff of running qb’s getting hurt, qb’s get hurt period doesnt matter it be running or standing in the pocket. Manning and Brady have both missed signifigant time because of injuries as have our own CP3 and Drew Brees so that argument is kinda lame. BTW Steve Young Ran alot and I dont remember him having many injuries.

    >. .come one now. there is a difference between a QB running when he has daylight and an offense DESIGNED for the QB to run. Qb do get hurt in the pocket, but to DESIGN running plays for them increases the risk… PERIOD!!!

  1320. DKnight007 Says:

    1315.KoolKell Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 4:38 pm
    Hypotheticals.

    Let it go for now fool.

    Let’s wait until Te’o gets to the NFL and see what he does.
    ———————–
    That’s always what I do, because I don’t watch college football.

    But, others are always claiming some college player will be the best in history.

    You should have took your own advice.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Stop making things up. I NEVER said Te’o would be the best in history. hahaha

    Actually he may wind up being the best or the worst in history. We don’t know do we fool?

  1321. Seymour Bush Says:

    You cannot hit the qb if he goes into a feet first slide.
    ===============================================

    If he is acting as a QB that’s true. If he running a read option and is acting as a RB or slit out as a WR he is treated just like any player out there and he can get whacked.

  1322. eastoaklandraider Says:

    Give me Warmack and Barret Jones from this draft and i’m a very happy man if I was gm thats who you guys would be getting.

  1323. manassamauler Says:

    You cannot hit the qb if he goes into a feet first slide.

    >. its funny because pocket passers are more protected now than ever before. Its safer to be a pocket passer now, defense gets fined of they fart on you. running QBs take more punishment by far. not even close

  1324. poprox13 Says:

    JT Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 4:39 pm

    If Im Regie Mac:

    1-Im trading down in draft to get a 2nd round pick.
    2-Im trading 20 Dmac for a 2nd round pick.
    3-Im trading Rolando for a 3rd or 4th.
    ______________________

    No one is going to trade a 3rd or 4th for Slolando!

  1325. eastoaklandraider Says:

    1319.manassamauler Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 4:39 pm
    eastoaklandraider Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 4:09 pm

    You guys kill me with this stuff of running qb’s getting hurt, qb’s get hurt period doesnt matter it be running or standing in the pocket. Manning and Brady have both missed signifigant time because of injuries as have our own CP3 and Drew Brees so that argument is kinda lame. BTW Steve Young Ran alot and I dont remember him having many injuries.

    >. .come one now. there is a difference between a QB running when he has daylight and an offense DESIGNED for the QB to run. Qb do get hurt in the pocket, but to DESIGN running plays for them increases the risk… PERIOD!!!

    ————

    I agree it does increase the risk but if they slide they still cant be hit whether it be a design run or a scramble the point is LEARN TO SLIDE.

  1326. manassamauler Says:

    eastoaklandraider Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 4:41 pm

    Give me Warmack and Barret Jones from this draft and i’m a very happy man if I was gm thats who you guys would be getting

    >. aren’t they BOTH projected top 20 picks? would be great if RM could pull that off though. always smart to draft winners

  1327. Gdog Says:

    Do you realize if we had simply taken the best LT available in 2008 and 2009 we would have Clady at LT, and Oher at RT right now?

    Plug in three other players really.

  1328. KoolKell Says:

    Actually he may wind up being the best or the worst in history. We don’t know do we fool?
    ————————-
    You didn’t say that before the game, fool.

  1329. Dan78 Says:

    We have to build the lines to succeed… Simple…

  1330. manassamauler Says:

    astoaklandraider Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 4:44 pm

    1319.manassamauler Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 4:39 pm
    eastoaklandraider Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 4:09 pm

    You guys kill me with this stuff of running qb’s getting hurt, qb’s get hurt period doesnt matter it be running or standing in the pocket. Manning and Brady have both missed signifigant time because of injuries as have our own CP3 and Drew Brees so that argument is kinda lame. BTW Steve Young Ran alot and I dont remember him having many injuries.

    >. .come one now. there is a difference between a QB running when he has daylight and an offense DESIGNED for the QB to run. Qb do get hurt in the pocket, but to DESIGN running plays for them increases the risk… PERIOD!!!

    ————

    I agree it does increase the risk but if they slide they still cant be hit whether it be a design run or a scramble the point is LEARN TO SLIDE.

    >> i just view a franchise as to valuable to have him playing running back. can’t always slide man, especially when you get hit from behind or from the side. won’t win a SB that way anyway, gimmick won’t last

  1331. manassamauler Says:

    *franchise QB

  1332. eastoaklandraider Says:

    You cant hit ANY player that goes into a feet first slide RB’s and WR’s just dont do it beacuse they would look like pussies.

  1333. JLofty Says:

    No one is trading anything for that guy. He might not even be cleared to play by Dr Andrews. Haven’t you heard, he has post slavery syndrome.

    Slolando will be lucky to be able to brush his teeth soon….

  1334. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Oh one last thing.

    I see that the ‘running qb” is still a very very hot topic here.

    there are only a few reasons this is even discussed at all and they are

    RGIII NEWTON WILSON KAPPY AND TP 6

    hmmm draw your own conclusions as to why these guys make the board melt down in ways never seen before.

    back in a few days

    Peace

  1335. Dan78 Says:

    Hey Mistic what are your thoughts on Pryor???

  1336. eastoaklandraider Says:

    1326.manassamauler Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 4:44 pm
    eastoaklandraider Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 4:41 pm

    Give me Warmack and Barret Jones from this draft and i’m a very happy man if I was gm thats who you guys would be getting

    >. aren’t they BOTH projected top 20 picks? would be great if RM could pull that off though. always smart to draft winners

    —————-

    Warmack is projected as a top 15 pick while Barret jones is slated at the moment to go anywhere from the late first to earlt third. would have to aquire a 2nd round pick to get jones imo.

  1337. Dan78 Says:

    Can he succeed in this league???

  1338. manassamauler Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 4:48 pm

    Oh one last thing.

    I see that the ‘running qb” is still a very very hot topic here.

    there are only a few reasons this is even discussed at all and they are

    RGIII NEWTON WILSON KAPPY AND TP 6

    hmmm draw your own conclusions as to why these guys make the board melt down in ways never seen before.

    back in a few days

    Peace

    >. wave of the future Al sharpton

  1339. papertiger418 Says:

    Reggie should orchestrate a trade for Romac with any other team in exchange for a bag of dirty jocks. That would definitely be worth the money spent.

  1340. The_Judge37 Says:

    1336.Dan78 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 4:49 pm
    Hey Mistic what are your thoughts on Pryor???
    —–

    Noooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  1341. manassamauler Says:

    whats funny is IF the Raiders were to draft white Johnny Football I’d be on here condemning the “wave of the future” like i do now. its a crap offense and that shortens QB life spans. this is the best era to be a pocket passer by far. rules have been tilted toward the QB completely. pocket passing is the wave of the future more than ever before.

  1342. eastoaklandraider Says:

    Ill give my thoughts on Pryor, Keep doing what your doing, work on that footwork and get into that playbook as soon as a OC is hired. TP will be fine with another year behind Carson and see if he can beat Carson out in 2014.

  1343. manassamauler Says:

    —————-

    Warmack is projected as a top 15 pick while Barret jones is slated at the moment to go anywhere from the late first to earlt third. would have to aquire a 2nd round pick to get jones imo.

    >. WOW thats money. those guys know how to win games and are used to being winners. trade down Rm.

  1344. Dan78 Says:

    The_Judge37 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 4:51 pm
    1336.Dan78 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 4:49 pm
    Hey Mistic what are your thoughts on Pryor???
    —–

    Noooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    —-

    Don’t tell me this is the guy obsessed with TP6

  1345. Seymour Bush Says:

    eastoaklandraider Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 4:41 pm

    Give me Warmack and Barret Jones from this draft and i’m a very happy man if I was gm thats who you guys would be getting.
    ========================================

    You would be considered a smart GM in my book.

  1346. eastoaklandraider Says:

    I like Johnny Football, I think he’s another RG3 just white. If he has another Monster season next year he will enter the draft and be a very high pick imo.

  1347. manassamauler Says:

    eastoaklandraider Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 4:55 pm

    Ill give my thoughts on Pryor, Keep doing what your doing, work on that footwork and get into that playbook as soon as a OC is hired. TP will be fine with another year behind Carson and see if he can beat Carson out in 2014.

    >. do you see pryor taking OAK to the promised land? i don’t think there is a QB on the roster capable of beating elite teams to making pressure throws. Pryor is a gimmick QB and Palmer never was elite to begin with. raiders will draft a QB in 14. I’d look at prospects. QB has to be able to throw.

  1348. The_Judge37 Says:

    I will say this on Pryor, he has absolutely NO Chance with John Defilippo as his coach. No chance.

  1349. papertiger418 Says:

    The details of this arrest are stupefying:

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/09/rolando-mcclain-im-falsely-accused-corrupt-cops-are-out-to-get-me/

  1350. eastoaklandraider Says:

    1345.Seymour Bush Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 4:57 pm
    eastoaklandraider Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 4:41 pm

    Give me Warmack and Barret Jones from this draft and i’m a very happy man if I was gm thats who you guys would be getting.
    ========================================

    You would be considered a smart GM in my book.
    ——–

    I know I will get killed for saying this but the job of a GM doesnt really seem that hard to me if you know football. I REALLY think I could do it. Just think I would have Megatron here and the whole Jruss fiasco would have never happened under my watch.

  1351. Seymour Bush Says:

    papertiger418 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 5:00 pm

    The details of this arrest are stupefying:

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/09/rolando-mcclain-im-falsely-accused-corrupt-cops-are-out-to-get-me/
    ================================================

    What’s the old expression? Just because he is paranoid doesn’t mean corrupt cops aren’t out to get him.

  1352. J Hill Says:

    Trade down, draft Werner or Mingo.

  1353. J Hill Says:

    Unless we pick a guy like Anthony Spencer up from Dallas, I don’t see how we don’t draft a DE/OLB in rd 1.

  1354. eastoaklandraider Says:

    1347.manassamauler Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 4:57 pm
    eastoaklandraider Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 4:55 pm

    Ill give my thoughts on Pryor, Keep doing what your doing, work on that footwork and get into that playbook as soon as a OC is hired. TP will be fine with another year behind Carson and see if he can beat Carson out in 2014.

    >. do you see pryor taking OAK to the promised land? i don’t think there is a QB on the roster capable of beating elite teams to making pressure throws. Pryor is a gimmick QB and Palmer never was elite to begin with. raiders will draft a QB in 14. I’d look at prospects. QB has to be able to throw.

    —————

    If Pryor can improve his accuracy then yes I see him as a qb that can lead us to a SB. A accurate throwing 6′4 230 LB QB who can scrable with 4.3 speed? that is unheard of, like I said IF he can become accurate.

  1355. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Jones, Werner. Joeckel, Warmack, Moore, Louteleli

    My draft board

    Raiders must get one of these players

  1356. Seymour Bush Says:

    eastoaklandraider Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 5:01 pm

    1345.Seymour Bush Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 4:57 pm
    eastoaklandraider Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 4:41 pm

    Give me Warmack and Barret Jones from this draft and i’m a very happy man if I was gm thats who you guys would be getting.
    ========================================

    You would be considered a smart GM in my book.
    ——–

    I know I will get killed for saying this but the job of a GM doesnt really seem that hard to me if you know football. I REALLY think I could do it. Just think I would have Megatron here and the whole Jruss fiasco would have never happened under my watch.
    =========================================

    One of my favorite GM stories is one of the major GM’s signed his lst round pick, and with the press and bright lights they were all smiles and happiness. Once the kid signed the contract, the GM looked him square in the face and said, “it’s my top job now to get someone better than you.”

  1357. J Hill Says:

    Dwayne Bowe or Mike Wallace?

  1358. The_Judge37 Says:

    Being pulled over for tinted windows is usually BS, but that doesn’t absolve this guy from being a Peice of $h!t BUST.

  1359. JLofty Says:

    Trade down, trade down, trade down.
    The whole Rolando McFiasco fiasco wouldn’t have happened if Al would have JUST ONCE, traded back to get a few more picks…

  1360. manassamauler Says:

    The_Judge37 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 4:59 pm

    I will say this on Pryor, he has absolutely NO Chance with John Defilippo as his coach. No chance.

    >. it’s too bad, if you put Palmers arm on Pryor we’d have something. Pryor can’t throw.

  1361. J Hill Says:

    666,

    You out there?

    Curious what your take is on the war chest boosting traffic cops harassing 55?

  1362. JT Says:

    A good coach and good team will get Rolando back to his Alamaba days. Just watch.

    He got disenchated with the perenial drama named raiders.

    If im Regie Mac, im calling bellichick and asking for a 4th round pick.

  1363. eastoaklandraider Says:

    1352.J Hill Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 5:02 pm
    Trade down, draft Werner or Mingo.

    —————

    Lakers trade down entire season and the next and try to aquire LBJ when he opts out like ESPN said could happen. Wow man I enjoy the Lakers losing more than the dubs winning this is great just great J.

  1364. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Can somebody tell me why ND had two #5s? The Teo kid and the QB? I didnt know you could do that…

  1365. manassamauler Says:

    J Hill Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 5:07 pm

    Dwayne Bowe or Mike Wallace?

    >> I’d have to go with Mike Wallace personally.

  1366. eastoaklandraider Says:

    1357.J Hill Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 5:07 pm
    Dwayne Bowe or Mike Wallace?

    ————

    Bowe, more of a complete WR.

  1367. JT Says:

    JLofty Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 5:08 pm
    Trade down, trade down, trade down.
    The whole Rolando McFiasco fiasco wouldn’t have happened if Al would have JUST ONCE, traded back to get a few more picks…

    -
    trade down and down, like Jimmy Johnson used to do in Dallas.

  1368. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Read Pryor’s transcript, the kid certainly thinks he is one of the leaders on the team. I like the “take it on” attitude, but I dont know if he has earned the right to talk like that…let him compete for a starting spot!

  1369. manassamauler Says:

    —————

    If Pryor can improve his accuracy then yes I see him as a qb that can lead us to a SB. A accurate throwing 6′4 230 LB QB who can scrable with 4.3 speed? that is unheard of, like I said IF he can become accurate.

    >> i don’t now man. Vick was just as fast, had an elite defense and run game AND could throw a football and couldn’t make it to a superbowl. Pryor has nowhere near the throwing ability of a superbowl QB. the old style is better and always wins out. pocket passers have won every superbowl and it won’t change. put palmers ARM on pryor and that 4.3 speed and size matters.

  1370. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Build the lines! I like what I hear from those who want to sockpile picks, we need new faces in here with none of the Tommy Kelly attitude.

    Very interesting what SEA has done with their DBs, Al would be singing praises of Caroll no doubt.

  1371. papertiger418 Says:

    Macho Man, tell me you weren’t impressed when TP6 tossed Goodson to one side like a rag doll.

    That’s the kind of leadership we need around these parts. No more jogging!

  1372. eastoaklandraider Says:

    1369.manassamauler Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 5:14 pm
    —————

    If Pryor can improve his accuracy then yes I see him as a qb that can lead us to a SB. A accurate throwing 6′4 230 LB QB who can scrable with 4.3 speed? that is unheard of, like I said IF he can become accurate.

    >> i don’t now man. Vick was just as fast, had an elite defense and run game AND could throw a football and couldn’t make it to a superbowl. Pryor has nowhere near the throwing ability of a superbowl QB. the old style is better and always wins out. pocket passers have won every superbowl and it won’t change. put palmers ARM on pryor and that 4.3 speed and size matters.

    ————–

    All we can do is wait and see, but I think he can do it and I’m pulling for him hard, its just something I see in him. I love his passion for the game and it seems real and with Carson helping him at every turn I think 2014 will be special for him.

  1373. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Romac….tsk ….tsk

    I find it awfully interesting that romac writes f-u on a ticket and goes to jail.

    yet jerry sandusky can be investigated by the d.a office and not even be charged. jeffry dahmer had a 13 year old loation male victim escape beaten up and bleeding from his rectum. The bot was found by police, and RETURNED TO DAHMER!!! The police went into dahmers home, and dahmer told them that the 13 year old was his boyfriend and they were just in a lover quarrel. The police left the boy and we know what happned next.

    It really doesnt matter that romac is an athlete, law enforcement will sees him as other than human. It is too bad no one has taught romac how o deal with the police in a way that will ensure his survival. If he wasnt a famous football player, he wouldnt have gotten off with just being arrested either.

    Romacs story is a cautionary tale.

    law enforcment history in amerikkka goes back to slave catchers. Slave catchers were the first organized law enforcement groups. look up the history of the texas rangers if you dont believe it.

    Now im really gone

    Peace

  1374. JLofty Says:

    Can’t judge Pryor’s throwing on one game. It is not unusual for a young QB to put too much “touch” on passes when the nerves are all fired up and it’s been two years since you played a game.
    I’ll take the wait and see stance. Hopefully he throws more like CKaepernick and less like Russell Wilson…

  1375. J Hill Says:

    Once again, East.

    The Lakers sucks. Been saying it since last year. No newsflashes hear.

    Ws are fun to watch but they won’t go anywhere with no post game. I hope you’re not being delusional. I suppose when you have been a perennial lottery pick type team, I can see how you would be excited about what you guys are doing.

    Congrats.

  1376. JLofty Says:

    It’s not Romac’s fault Mistake1, he’s got post-slavery syndrome, he’s lucky to get his cheerios in the bowl every morning…

  1377. manassamauler Says:

    JLofty Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 5:19 pm

    Can’t judge Pryor’s throwing on one game. It is not unusual for a young QB to put too much “touch” on passes when the nerves are all fired up and it’s been two years since you played a game.
    I’ll take the wait and see stance. Hopefully he throws more like CKaepernick and less like Russell Wilson…

    Leave a Reply

    >. go watch teddy bridgewater throw from the pocket. THAT is a quarterback with an NFL arm. same with Manziel. Pryor doesn’t have the arm. Bridgewater can sling it

  1378. JLofty Says:

    Oh yeah JHill?!? You just wait until Andrew Bogut comes back, then we’ll have a post game and then you’ll see!!!

  1379. manassamauler Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 5:19 pm

    Romac….tsk ….tsk

    I find it awfully interesting that romac writes f-u on a ticket and goes to jail.

    yet jerry sandusky can be investigated by the d.a office and not even be charged. jeffry dahmer had a 13 year old loation male victim escape beaten up and bleeding from his rectum. The bot was found by police, and RETURNED TO DAHMER!!! The police went into dahmers home, and dahmer told them that the 13 year old was his boyfriend and they were just in a lover quarrel. The police left the boy and we know what happned next.

    It really doesnt matter that romac is an athlete, law enforcement will sees him as other than human. It is too bad no one has taught romac how o deal with the police in a way that will ensure his survival. If he wasnt a famous football player, he wouldnt have gotten off with just being arrested either.

    Romacs story is a cautionary tale.

    law enforcment history in amerikkka goes back to slave catchers. Slave catchers were the first organized law enforcement groups. look up the history of the texas rangers if you dont believe it.

    Now im really gone

    Peace

    >. wave of the future

  1380. jesusraiderjim Says:

    BTW Steve Young Ran alot and I dont remember him having many injuries.
    ——————————————
    What about the 5 concussions that forced him to retire?

    That is an injury isn’t it?

  1381. dr_robert Says:

    Now only if he could throw well.

  1382. JLofty Says:

    Well Manassamauler I seen a LOT of QBs in college with big arms flame out spectacularly in the NFL. A LOT. Leaf comes to mind. Jeff George too.
    I also seen a lot of guy with lessor arms go REAL far in the bigs with less than spectacular arms. Joe Montana and Rich Gannon come to mind.
    QB needs to have a lot of things not just a big arm. Pryor could still marinate a little longer, I just wish he’d play some WR while he waits for a QB job to open up.

  1383. The_Judge37 Says:

    1381.jesusraiderjim Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 5:25 pm
    BTW Steve Young Ran alot and I dont remember him having many injuries.
    ——————————————
    What about the 5 concussions that forced him to retire?

    That is an injury isn’t it?
    ——-

    “I’ll see your 5 concussions and raise 2 more” – Troy Aikman

  1384. eastoaklandraider Says:

    1375.J Hill Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 5:21 pm
    Once again, East.

    The Lakers sucks. Been saying it since last year. No newsflashes hear.

    Ws are fun to watch but they won’t go anywhere with no post game. I hope you’re not being delusional. I suppose when you have been a perennial lottery pick type team, I can see how you would be excited about what you guys are doing.

    Congrats.

    ————–

    J, it just fun to fck with you about your Fakers I cant help it and its been ahwhile since I could really go in on Kobe an co. My all time favorit moment was Kobe and fisher crying after losing in the Finals thats my alltime favorite Kobe Moment. As for my Dubs I’m not even looking for a championship run I just want to get to the second round healthy and see how we fare. If we get Bogut back I think we are a legit team to make a lil noise in the playoffs.

  1385. Seymour Bush Says:

    jesusraiderjim Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 5:25 pm

    BTW Steve Young Ran alot and I dont remember him having many injuries.
    ——————————————
    What about the 5 concussions that forced him to retire?

    That is an injury isn’t it?
    =========================================

    And the last one was a blitz from Aeneas Williams when he was in the pocket.

  1386. dr_robert Says:

    Did that idiot just being up jeffrey dahmer regarding green beanie? Could he get any more retarded? I think I feel sorry for him more than anything else now.

  1387. eastoaklandraider Says:

    1380.jesusraiderjim Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 5:25 pm
    BTW Steve Young Ran alot and I dont remember him having many injuries.
    ——————————————
    What about the 5 concussions that forced him to retire?

    That is an injury isn’t it?

    ————

    He retired at what age?

  1388. The_Judge37 Says:

    Let’s not forget about Trent Green and his multiple concussions either, even though Trent Green sometimes forgets about em’

  1389. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    I love Pryors attitude, but I like people to earn the right to speak like that… You need a couple of wins before you start talking like general Patton, thats all.

    Saw Bridgewater too, also thought the kid can throw it, but one thing is throwing zings another is running an NFL offense vs a real NFL D….

  1390. manassamauler Says:

    JLofty Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 5:26 pm

    Well Manassamauler I seen a LOT of QBs in college with big arms flame out spectacularly in the NFL. A LOT. Leaf comes to mind. Jeff George too.
    I also seen a lot of guy with lessor arms go REAL far in the bigs with less than spectacular arms. Joe Montana and Rich Gannon come to mind.
    QB needs to have a lot of things not just a big arm. Pryor could still marinate a little longer, I just wish he’d play some WR while he waits for a QB job to open up.

    >. montana and gannon were ACCURATE. pryor throws ducks man. Pryor is a tight end or WR IMO. thats where he’ll end up. some good prospects next year. raiders will be picking top 5 next year. they’ll be able to get a QB.

  1391. eastoaklandraider Says:

    >. go watch teddy bridgewater throw from the pocket. THAT is a quarterback with an NFL arm. same with Manziel. Pryor doesn’t have the arm. Bridgewater can sling it

    ———-

    Havent seen this Bridgewater kid yet sounds like a goodin tho.

  1392. dr_robert Says:

    So green beanie writes FU on a police form and somehow missdick thinks of jeffrey dahmer and Jerry Sandusky. Not that any grown man should know better and that it’s an obvious sign that the guy thinks he’s above the law and immature and stupid. No. Not that any mother would tell her son not to be such an idiot. No. Missdick thinks its the cops fault. The clown shows his retardation every post.

  1393. manassamauler Says:

    Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 5:30 pm

    I love Pryors attitude, but I like people to earn the right to speak like that… You need a couple of wins before you start talking like general Patton, thats all.

    Saw Bridgewater too, also thought the kid can throw it, but one thing is throwing zings another is running an NFL offense vs a real NFL D….

    > i was just talking about throwing ability. Bridgewater can sling it. he has the tools to win. manziel too BUt he’s to small IMO, especially to be running around like he’s wired on coke

  1394. JLofty Says:

    Accuracy is deadly I agree. I HOPE you are wrong about us picking top 5 tho. I don’t know how much more of that I can take…

  1395. J Hill Says:

    Kobe and his 27 million dollar salary will retire at the end of the year.

    Gasoft and his 19 million a year salary will be traded.

    Lakers will have a top 5 pick and ridiculous cap room to pair with Dwight Howard.

    Not worried at all.

  1396. eastoaklandraider Says:

    didnt Joe Theisman have that horrific injury in the pocket?

  1397. JT Says:

    Den – John Fox
    KC – Andy Reid
    SD – probably Bruce Aryans

    Oak – DA

    Not impressive aint it.

    DA needs a superior OC, or he will be outcoached and toast by midseason.

    Any candidates for OC out there?

  1398. manassamauler Says:

    JLofty Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 5:33 pm

    Accuracy is deadly I agree. I HOPE you are wrong about us picking top 5 tho. I don’t know how much more of that I can take…

    >. need a franchise Qb at some point right? anybody here think geno smith can get it done? matt barkley? if not then finishing 4-12 next year will be a good thing.

  1399. JT Says:

    Marc Trestman for OC?

    How about Cam Cameron, ex Raven coach.

    How about Ken Wisehunt?

  1400. manassamauler Says:

    eastoaklandraider Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 5:34 pm

    didnt Joe Theisman have that horrific injury in the pocket?

    >. it happens but haven’t you noticed how much the rules have tilted towards QBs? no hitting low, no spearing, helmet hits, no hard hits are even tolerated now. THIS is the best era to be a pocket passer. defenses have been neutered by goody

  1401. eastoaklandraider Says:

    1395.J Hill Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 5:33 pm
    Kobe and his 27 million dollar salary will retire at the end of the year.

    Gasoft and his 19 million a year salary will be traded.

    Lakers will have a top 5 pick and ridiculous cap room to pair with Dwight Howard.

    Not worried at all.
    ———–

    Kobe said he will play one mre year after this season

    Gasol’s trade value is at an all time low

    Dwight wont stick around to be on a rebuilding
    team thats why he left the Magic.

    Lakers going back to early 90’s days and I love it.

  1402. J Hill Says:

    Bogut, eh???

    Anything can happen, I suppose.

  1403. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Man Andy Reid needs at least one year off, he needs to mourn his kid. I would not hire him now.

  1404. J Hill Says:

    Hollywood Howard ain’t going nowhere, bruh.

    Not leaving the extra cash and endorsement $ on the table.

  1405. eastoaklandraider Says:

    1400.manassamauler Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 5:38 pm
    eastoaklandraider Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 5:34 pm

    didnt Joe Theisman have that horrific injury in the pocket?

    >. it happens but haven’t you noticed how much the rules have tilted towards QBs? no hitting low, no spearing, helmet hits, no hard hits are even tolerated now. THIS is the best era to be a pocket passer. defenses have been neutered by goody

    ———–

    They can have all the rules they want this is still football just ask Cutler and Big Ben

  1406. The Amazing Spiderman Says:

    Russell Wilson owes America an apology.
    His manipulative shenanigans have taken him this far and they will ultimately prove to be his undoing.

    He and “Carroll the Clown” have put on quite a magic show all season long, but Wilson’s cheap parlor tricks will no longer carry the day.

    No spin from the so called “experts” will be able to stop Matty Ice and his far superior arm strength and ability.

    It’ll be high noon at the Ok Corral when the young spinmeister and his travelling circus arrive in the Georgia Dome where a day of reckoning shall settle all scores.

    No matter what tricks the young charlatan uses against the Falcons, the curtain will close and the charade will end..mercifully for those of us who have been forced to watch this 3 ring freak show.

    Young Mr. Wilson needs to humbly accept his fate and own up to this farce. His antics have gone on far enough and a nation is weaker because of it.

  1407. JLofty Says:

    EOR, I don’t think anyone was arguing that horrific injuries don’t happen ANYWHERE on a football field to ANY player. Just that your QB WILL take more hits and abuse if he’s flying around.
    If you want your QB to run, you have to load your roster with them and be prepared to plug in another one when the starter gets concussed and has to sit a week or two.
    Tough to argue about pocket passers and the crazy rules that they have for that these days. Can hardly touch them anymore.
    Go W’s!!

  1408. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Marc Trestman is Knapp all over again. These coaches that bounce around because of their PR rather than results, stay away from these brownosers, we need commited coaches!

  1409. eastoaklandraider Says:

    Howard is gone after this season, has he signed an exstention yet?

  1410. J Hill Says:

    Steve Nash and Mike D Anphuccingtonio.

    LMFAO

    How in the hell are they in Laker uniforms????

    Jim Buss is hilarious.

  1411. The Big Banana Says:

    Lol! This place is a trip!

  1412. J Hill Says:

    Where is he going, East?

  1413. manassamauler Says:

    astoaklandraider Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 5:40 pm

    1400.manassamauler Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 5:38 pm
    eastoaklandraider Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 5:34 pm

    didnt Joe Theisman have that horrific injury in the pocket?

    >. it happens but haven’t you noticed how much the rules have tilted towards QBs? no hitting low, no spearing, helmet hits, no hard hits are even tolerated now. THIS is the best era to be a pocket passer. defenses have been neutered by goody

    ———–

    They can have all the rules they want this is still football just ask Cutler and Big Ben

    >> much safer to be a QB now. the hit that ended joe montana relavant career would get you suspended now. the hit that ended palmers season was a good clean Hit IMO and dude got a penalty and was fined. need a pocket passer with ability to escape rushers thats it. Aaron rodgers is the perfect QB IMO. great pocket passer that can escape. thats all you need.

  1414. manassamauler Says:

    howard will play for the seattle supersonics next year

  1415. J Hill Says:

    Let me guess …..

    He’ll demand a trade to the Ws?

  1416. J Hill Says:

    The Heatles for the mid level?

  1417. Seymour Bush Says:

    eastoaklandraider Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 5:32 pm

    >. go watch teddy bridgewater throw from the pocket. THAT is a quarterback with an NFL arm. same with Manziel. Pryor doesn’t have the arm. Bridgewater can sling it

    ———-

    Havent seen this Bridgewater kid yet sounds like a goodin tho.
    ==============================================

    Excellent pro prospect. More of a passer than runner, very accurate.

  1418. oakfshow Says:

    Got pulled over without a license,cop twisted my arm really hard behind my back.I turned and knocked him the fk out! That cost me a taser shot and jail time.I won at trial.Another time I was on top of a guy smashing his face in,cop put night stick around my throught and lifted me off the ground.Couldnt breath so I elbowed the cok sucker in the nose.Broke his nose pretty good.That cost me 2 taser shots and a night in jail.Once again won at trial due to cop not identifieing himself. Both times good lawyers.Would do it all over again.Fk cops.

  1419. Seymour Bush Says:

    Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 5:39 pm

    Man Andy Reid needs at least one year off, he needs to mourn his kid. I would not hire him now.
    =======================================

    My feeling exactly. He should get out of Philly, go to the beach and reflect for awhile.

  1420. alex7 Says:

    SilverLining20 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 2:12 pm
    Alex7,

    I agree with most of your posts except for your opinion on O-line unimportance, lol.
    Do you have a best case scenario for the Raiders in the first round including specific players?

    ————–

    Best case is definitely a trade down because the amount of solid talent throughout round 1, but the lack of absolute-locks up high.

    We have so many needs, any of these guys is fine with me:

    Geno Smith (one bad bowl game gets too much of the focus around here. Guy tore up a solid Big12 conference), Jarvis Jones, Mingo, Star, Warmack, Milliner, K. Allen.

    Those are my guys.

  1421. manassamauler Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 5:53 pm

    Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 5:39 pm

    Man Andy Reid needs at least one year off, he needs to mourn his kid. I would not hire him now.
    =======================================

    My feeling exactly. He should get out of Philly, go to the beach and reflect for awhile.

    >.to stop and think about your life is too painful sometimes, have to keep moving.

  1422. manassamauler Says:

    alex7 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 5:54 pm

    SilverLining20 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 2:12 pm
    Alex7,

    I agree with most of your posts except for your opinion on O-line unimportance, lol.
    Do you have a best case scenario for the Raiders in the first round including specific players?

    ————–

    Best case is definitely a trade down because the amount of solid talent throughout round 1, but the lack of absolute-locks up high.

    We have so many needs, any of these guys is fine with me:

    Geno Smith (one bad bowl game gets too much of the focus around here. Guy tore up a solid Big12 conference), Jarvis Jones, Mingo, Star, Warmack, Milliner, K. Allen.

    Those are my guys.

    >. yeah if palmer retires or leaves and Geno is there at 3 raiders might take him. could happen

  1423. oakfshow Says:

    1418.oakfshow Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 5:49 pm
    Got pulled over without a license,cop twisted my arm really hard behind my back.I turned and knocked him the fk out! That cost me a taser shot and jail time.I won at trial.Another time I was on top of a guy smashing his face in,cop put night stick around my throught and lifted me off the ground.Couldnt breath so I elbowed the cok sucker in the nose.Broke his nose pretty good.That cost me 2 taser shots and a night in jail.Once again won at trial due to cop not identifieing himself. Both times good lawyers.Would do it all over again.Fk cops.

    ====================================================== With that being said.I cant stand Rolando,not cause he’s an idiot but because he cant play worth a damn and I dont want him on my Raider team any longer!

  1424. Silvertongue Says:

    lakers don’t get a 1st round pick if its in the lottery; The suns will.

  1425. J Hill Says:

    Pau Gasoft for Jarrett Jack and a #1 pick?

  1426. jesusraiderjim Says:

    oakfshow Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 5:49 pm
    Got pulled over without a license,cop twisted my arm really hard behind my back.I turned and knocked him the fk out! That cost me a taser shot and jail time.I won at trial.Another time I was on top of a guy smashing his face in,cop put night stick around my throught and lifted me off the ground.Couldnt breath so I elbowed the cok sucker in the nose.Broke his nose pretty good.That cost me 2 taser shots and a night in jail.Once again won at trial due to cop not identifieing himself. Both times good lawyers.Would do it all over again.Fk cops.

    ——————————————-

    Way to play the game E OAK

    Good lawyers are the shiznit> You wanna play you gotta pay. LOL

    Fvck The POLICE!!

  1427. alex7 Says:

    I was surprised to see that Reid is only 22-28 without McNabb.

  1428. manassamauler Says:

    jesusraiderjim Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 5:58 pm

    oakfshow Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 5:49 pm
    Got pulled over without a license,cop twisted my arm really hard behind my back.I turned and knocked him the fk out! That cost me a taser shot and jail time.I won at trial.Another time I was on top of a guy smashing his face in,cop put night stick around my throught and lifted me off the ground.Couldnt breath so I elbowed the cok sucker in the nose.Broke his nose pretty good.That cost me 2 taser shots and a night in jail.Once again won at trial due to cop not identifieing himself. Both times good lawyers.Would do it all over again.Fk cops.

    ——————————————-

    Way to play the game E OAK

    Good lawyers are the shiznit> You wanna play you gotta pay. LOL

    Fvck The POLICE!!

    >. yep lawyers are golden in this country. personal JC

  1429. alex7 Says:

    oakfoshow

    don’t you usually get in trouble for smashing someone’s face in? what happened there? :)

  1430. alex7 Says:

    Macho

    you didn’t like Trestman’s results as our OC???

    He’s done well as a HC, albeit in a smaller league. Certainly don’t see him as a re-tread though.

  1431. Purvisman/Intrepid// Full Disclosure Says:

    The_Judge37 Says:

    Noooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    ===============================

    My immediate reaction. Need to wean ourselves off doc,next.

  1432. oakfshow Says:

    1429.alex7 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 6:01 pm
    oakfoshow

    don’t you usually get in trouble for smashing someone’s face in? what happened there?

    Drunk and fighting.It was two of us,four of them.Pleaded self defense.The tasers hurt like a bastard though.Ripped the first one out,the second one made me sht my britches.LOL.

  1433. eastoaklandraider Says:

    J Hill Howard goes back east. Nets, Knicks, Bulls.

  1434. The Amazing Spiderman Says:

    Please don’t mention Teddy ‘Bildgewater’ as i’ve just completed my evening meal.

    I and no doubt many others cring at the prospect of this huckster entering the NFL.

    He is a 7th round draft pick at best when he finally does emerge from the warmth and safety of the University of “Phooeyville”.

    Our attention should be affixed on fine young QB’s like Tyler Wilson, Tyler Bray and a fine young man named Colby Cameron out of La. Tech. Colby comes from a fine, wealthy family of much means but has the fire and tenacity not many possess.

    Breathtaking arm strength and spectacular evasive ability make him one of the top sleepers in college football today.

    He’s able to run the spread wing double I formation to perfection. It will surprise and delight all who have the opportunity to witness it.

    Yes, young Colby has overcome much his entire life, but a youth filled with priveledge and stability will put him in good stead moving forward.

    Talent starved fans will have their appetites sated by young Colby.

  1435. KoolKell Says:

    Alex7 Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 6:02 pm
    Macho

    you didn’t like Trestman’s results as our OC???

    He’s done well as a HC, albeit in a smaller league. Certainly don’t see him as a re-tread though.
    ———————-
    Lol.

  1436. eastoaklandraider Says:

    i’m out yall be good.

  1437. raidertbone Says:

    If we pick a QB at #3, with all of the other needs that are glaring us in the face, we will will wind up in the same spot next year, with a QB flat on his a&*( or shell-shocked because he got destroyed the entire season (Couch, Carr). We need picks and we need more pieces to the puzzle — can always pick up a QB through free agency, if need be.

  1438. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Na, i dont lime trestman, truth be told… I would be really surprised if we go QB with #3 pick… Trade down, get fresh talent in here. The rookie salary cap makes trading top picks easier than before.

  1439. KoolKell Says:

    Trestman is probably better than Knapp I’m sure. I’m hoping for a smash mouth guy.

  1440. MiamiRaider78 Says:

    Are we waiting for the Packers to hire our o.c? No news? Nothing?

    Did Hub Arkush get a promotion for his rumors he dug up on Gruden returning to the Raiders? lol

  1441. Raider guy Says:

    Trestman came close to being the coach of the raiders not too long ago.

  1442. Raiders for life Says:

    Just checking in, it’s been awhile.
    Talked to a hardcore redskins fan today and he said he’d gladly give up a 7th for slo.
    Anyway, here’s to hoping the Reg and DA find a solid OC.
    Bring back Wylie and Wiz.

  1443. The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:

    Lofty Says:
    January 9th, 2013 at 5:08 pm
    Trade down, trade down, trade down.
    The whole Rolando McFiasco fiasco wouldn’t have happened if Al would have JUST ONCE, traded back to get a few more picks…

    =========

    The fiasco would have never happened if we took the athletic freak JPP over the “leader” & “football player” McClain.

  1444. The Amazing Spiderman Says:

    The only thing that Russell Wilson has avoided more than injured defenders is culpability for his actions.

    His abhorrent attempts to trivilize the game with his tricks and gimmicks have threatened the integrity of a once proud league.

    He waves his magic wand and pulls rabbits out of hats, but his little circus sideshow is finally coming to the end of its run.

    Matty Ice. “Ice Ice Baby” is the cry from a disillusioned fandom.

    The song reminds me of a great musical artist who paved the way for giants like The Beastie Boys and Eminem, and perhaps even the talented Justin Bieber.

    Wilsons trickery has been an insult to a Seattle franchise accustomed to appreciating such greats as; Jim Zorn and Steve Largent; who is undoubtedly the best receiver the league has ever seen. Largent helped pave the way for the great receivers of our day. Eric Decker, Jordy Nelson and of course the prolific Wes Welker, who do just honor to the great ones like Fred Biletnikoff, Lance Alworth and who can forget Elroy ‘Crazy Legs’ Hirsch.

    No Mr. Wilson. We aren’t buying what you’re selling.

    EXPOSED!!!

  1445. RaiderSam Says:

    So happy Russell Wilson is in the playoffs, even happier when he continues and beats the Falcons and hopefully the Niners or Packers in the NFC championship.

    the only thing that would make it sweeter would be if he won a Super Bowl over Tom Brady.

  1446. Scourge Says:

    Evening, all!

  1447. Corporate_Raider Says:

    Rolando, I would guess, has some mental issues. Just because he’s a pro athlete does not make him special. He has been a total washout and, sadly, will end up broke and dead. He may still have a chance to make the sort of money most of us can only dream about but his attitude is unbelievable. “You know who I am.” So? Your windows are still too dark, you still signed the ticket, “F… y’all” and did not cooperate with police. You’re right. I do know who you are Rolando and you’re going to jail because you’re just a guy named Rolando who might still be a football player. Might still be but right now, you’re arrested and in the back of my cruiser, Rolando.

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