Updated story, bizarre details on McClain being arrested
By Steve Corkran
Wednesday, January 9th, 2013 at 6:42 pm in Oakland Raiders.
A story in the Decatur Daily details the false name used by Raiders middle linebacker Rolando McClain that led to his arrest Tuesday. The story also recounts how McClain feels as if he is a victim in the case.
Brace yourself. You can’t make up this stuff. So, here’s the link. Use your imagination when guessing what the expletive was used by McClain:
http://decaturdaily.com/stories/McClain-in-trouble-again,110745
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January 9th, 2013 at 6:45 pm
SLO-Mania
January 9th, 2013 at 6:47 pm
He is who we thought he was!
I bet he is somehow related to Jamarcus.
January 9th, 2013 at 6:49 pm
Fucn loser
January 9th, 2013 at 6:59 pm
Lofty Says:
January 9th, 2013 at 5:08 pm
Trade down, trade down, trade down.
The whole Rolando McFiasco fiasco wouldn’t have happened if Al would have JUST ONCE, traded back to get a few more picks…
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The fiasco would have never happened if we took the athletic freak JPP over the “leader” & “football player” McClain.
January 9th, 2013 at 6:59 pm
Rolando McClain Entering Draft
January 11, 2010 by John Mitchell
After three years in Tuscaloosa, the Butkus Award winner Rolando McClain has decided to forgo his senior season at the Capstone and enter his name into the 2010 NFL Draft in April. Rolando McClain was the heart and soul of this defense this season that led Alabama to the National Championship.
Nick Saban proclaimed that Rolando McClain was one of the smartest players he ever coached, and he’s absolutely right. Ever since he stepped on campus, McClain called the signals for the defense and became a film junkie.
All the hard work McClain put in paid off even more this season as he led Alabama with over 100 tackles and was awarded the Butkus Award for the Nation’s top linebacker, and named an All American for the first time.
I cannot blame Rolando McClain for entering the draft; he deserves to move on to the next level. He’s accomplished all he could accomplish in Tuscaloosa, and I knew it was all but going to happen after Alabama won the SEC and National Championship, because
there was nothing left for him to do.
McClain is going to have the same success at the next level. He is as close to a sure thing as you can possibly have in the NFL, and will be the leader of a defense for years as he submits himself as an All Pro talent in the NFL. I have no doubt that he has a great career ahead of him, and whoever drafts him is getting a future star with a work ethic like none other.
He was never a film junkie until he got to Alabama, and now he says during the season, he watches film multiple hours a day to make sure he is prepared as much as he can be for the upcoming opponent. McClain is a coach on the field, and knows what every player on the defense is supposed to do on every single play.
With McClain moving on to the NFL, Alabama will have a big void to fill in his spot. Rolando McClain meant as much or more to this defense than any player in the nation meant to their defense. With McClain gone, you not only have to replace his talent if that wasn’t hard enough, but you have to replace his leadership.
January 9th, 2013 at 7:00 pm
Did they even interview this kid before they drafted him??
January 9th, 2013 at 7:01 pm
I’m amazed he could spell expletive.
January 9th, 2013 at 7:04 pm
McClain cross-posting as expletive y’all.
January 9th, 2013 at 7:05 pm
Reggie’s going to trade him for a practice squad player, if thats possible…
January 9th, 2013 at 7:06 pm
FIRE REGGIE NOW.
January 9th, 2013 at 7:07 pm
2010
8 OAK McClain, Rolando, LB, Alabama
9 BUF Spiller, C.J., RB, Clemson
10 JAX Alualu, Tyson, DE, California
11 SF Davis, Anthony, OT, Rutgers
12 SD Mathews, Ryan, RB, Fresno State
13 PHI Graham, Brandon, DE, Michigan
14 SEA Thomas, Earl, SS, Texas
15 NYG Pierre-Paul, Jason, DE, South Florida
16 TEN Morgan, Derrick, DE, Georgia Tech
17 SF Iupati, Mike, OG, Idaho
18 PIT Pouncey, Maurkice, C, Florida
19 ATL Weatherspoon, Sean, LB, Missouri
20 HOU Jackson, Kareem, CB, Alabama
21 CIN Gresham, Jermaine, TE, Oklahoma
22 DEN Thomas, Demaryius, WR, Georgia Tech
23 GB Bulaga, Bryan, OT, Iowa
24 DAL Bryant, Dez, WR, Oklahoma State
25 DEN Tebow, Tim, QB, Florida
26 ARI Williams, Dan, DT, Tennessee
27 NE McCourty, Devin, CB, Rutgers
28 MIA Odrick, Jared, DT, Penn State
29 NYJ Wilson, Kyle, CB, Boise State
30 DET Best, Jahvid, RB, California
31 IND Hughes, Jerry, DE, TCU
32 NO Robinson, Patrick, CB, Florida State
Handful of those guys would have made AWESOME Raiders. Tisk.
January 9th, 2013 at 7:10 pm
Painful to look at that list. One of many.
January 9th, 2013 at 7:11 pm
Nevermind this F’n story. Lets not look at the past but talk about Future Raiders.
I have no added a new running back I would like to see go to the Raiders .
He goes by the name of La’Veon Bell out of Michigan State. 6ft 2 240 pounds.
So I would like to see 1 out of the 3 I listed become a future raider.
Stefan Taylor out of Stanford, Eddie Lacy out of Bama or BEll out of M. State .. ya dig???
January 9th, 2013 at 7:16 pm
Chance Warmack!
January 9th, 2013 at 7:18 pm
Lacy and his teammate DT Williams to lead block on short yardage.
BOOM! TD.
January 9th, 2013 at 7:18 pm
Man old news this stuff was reported this morning , we have the worst beat writer please come back jerry
January 9th, 2013 at 7:21 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit, what happened to Arthur Brown, The God of Hellfire?
January 9th, 2013 at 7:23 pm
Any chance we can get out of paying him, or does this just hurt what little trade value he had before this debacle?
January 9th, 2013 at 7:26 pm
too funny. You should read some of the comments on the PFT article.
“If this were a movie, Rolando McClain would be played by Samuel L Jackson.. And it would be hilarious…”
January 9th, 2013 at 7:30 pm
ARthur Brown is a MLB.. Im talking running backs in 2-4th rd
January 9th, 2013 at 7:31 pm
I have a feeling once we cut this guy he’s gonna turn his career around and become a solid player for somebody else, perhaps he’ll struggle for a year or two but at some point, he’s still just 23, he matures, finds inner peace, dedicates himself and manages to salvage a decent career, meawhile we paid him millions for next to nothing, damn you Rolando.
January 9th, 2013 at 7:33 pm
Man what a joke I remember watching this guy every week in college for 3 years he was such a beast I can’t believe he has stooped so low and became such a pos everything u ever heard about him at Bama was nothing but praise on and off the field jumped for joy the sec we drafted him can’t believe it has come to this I can’t wait till we cut his arse and I thought I would never be typing that my best friend was right he sucks and is a loser
January 9th, 2013 at 7:34 pm
Man some of these beat writers really having nothing else to do. Ya McClain is a punk.. just going through “not giving a Fckk” phase.. but they really make a bigger issue out it.
McClain is gone from this team. Its over.
Tim kawakami saying the Raiders made a big mistake not cutting him two months ago and now the joke is on the Raiders. How is it on the Raiders?? Reggie is gonna do things on his terms.
Not ROlandos … or Timmys
January 9th, 2013 at 7:34 pm
Al Davis must have read that John Mitchell report zeroed in on McClain. Probably in huge print on the overhead.
January 9th, 2013 at 7:36 pm
Proud of my lakers putting up the fight out there, on the road, that’s kinda games that turn things around, nice to see that, Earl Clark was awesome, thank god they got some youth in there, i kinda liked that both Gasol and Howard got injured, this will only make them better, they will def make the playoffs
January 9th, 2013 at 7:37 pm
F8ck ya’ll
January 9th, 2013 at 7:38 pm
Ian85 Says:
January 9th, 2013 at 7:33 pm
Man what a joke I remember watching this guy every week in college for 3 years he was such a beast I can’t believe he has stooped so low and became such a pos everything u ever heard about him at Bama was nothing but praise on and off the field jumped for joy the sec we drafted him can’t believe it has come to this I can’t wait till we cut his arse and I thought I would never be typing that my best friend was right he sucks and is a loser
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I don’t know, I’ve read a lot about him on Bama boards and there were a lot of negative comments about him off the field. That he was a bipolar a$$hole and had that incident where he ran that Bama student over in a car.
January 9th, 2013 at 7:41 pm
Honestly McClain is a grown man now.. but he has some issues that run deep.. that any good scouting team would have learned.. maybe gone clear of him.
January 9th, 2013 at 7:44 pm
Tim kawakami saying the Raiders made a big mistake not cutting him two months ago and now the joke is on the Raiders. How is it on the Raiders?? Reggie is gonna do things on his terms.
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Kawakami is and always has been a punk.
January 9th, 2013 at 7:46 pm
His lack of respect for Authority can’t bode well for an NFL career…
Maybe if he was incarcerated like Ray Lewis, he’d turn his career around.
Kid is extremely immature…
January 9th, 2013 at 7:51 pm
The Big Banana Says:
January 9th, 2013 at 7:44 pm
Tim kawakami saying the Raiders made a big mistake not cutting him two months ago and now the joke is on the Raiders. How is it on the Raiders?? Reggie is gonna do things on his terms.
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Kawakami is and always has been a punk.
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Kawakami is nothing but a little b e o t c h.
January 9th, 2013 at 7:53 pm
If Romac was incarcerated, he’d have a lot more issues with his GI tract than plain old Crohn’s disease.
January 9th, 2013 at 7:54 pm
im not talking about that as being one of his issues.. im talking ppl around him.. how he grew up. im sure u can google if u want
January 9th, 2013 at 7:57 pm
Anyway I’ve had enough about McLain.
Me and Edward Teach were talking about the RGIII-Shanahan situation the other day, saying how it was an all-time blunder and how the media lapdogs tried to cover up for Shanny’s screw-up.
So, today I finally got to read a good, honest piece on the issue from grantland’s Bill Barnwell, here are the best parts:
Skip if you don’t care for it, but I think it’s a good football article worth reading.
“Washington’s season started with Robert Griffin III celebrating while he was laying flat on the turf. It ended on Sunday night with Griffin writhing in the same position.
Should Griffin have stayed in after suffering what appeared to be a re-tweak of his knee injury in the first quarter? The answer — both in the moment and after the fact — is no, but that’s really two separate questions that produce a “no” for different reasons.
The first branch of that question is, “Did Robert Griffin give the Redskins the best chance to win after suffering his knee injury on that second touchdown drive?”.
The answer to that question is no, because Griffin quickly revealed himself to be a much different player from even the limited Griffin of the past few weeks.
After that drive, Griffin looked labored in moving around the pocket and downright wounded when the Redskins cruelly called a zone read and Griffin swept left for a nine-yard gain.
What was more noticeable was how little Griffin offered as a passer.
His mechanics were clearly out of whack: He wasn’t able to step into his throws and plant, turning the normally accurate Griffin into a scattershot passer. He sailed many of his throws, an issue that often comes into play with quarterbacks who aren’t able to execute their footwork properly because of a lower-body injury.
Ben Roethlisberger, for one, exhibited the same issues last year after suffering a high ankle sprain.
The Redskins tried to account for the injury by calling for screens, quick hitches, and stick routes that didn’t require Griffin to throw the ball any meaningful distance in the air, but the Seahawks were easily able to adapt without having any serious fear that Griffin would be able to beat them downfield.
You can forgive the Redskins for giving Griffin a drive or two to examine whether he would be able to contribute to the cause. You can’t fault Griffin’s guts for wanting to play, either. But it became clear no later than halftime that Griffin was more than limited; he was far below the level of a replacement-level quarterback, let alone at the level of a healthy Kirk Cousins.
After the injury occurred, Griffin threw a four-yard touchdown pass to an uncovered Logan Paulsen, but he followed that by going 4-of-10 for 18 yards with an interception, two sacks, and a fumble on his final play of the season.
The second question is much thornier.
“Were the Redskins making a decision that had Robert Griffin III’s best interests in mind?” The process that went into leaving Griffin in is more complicated than that, and it speaks to just how seriously the league takes some very antiquated and foolish ideas.
After the game, Mike Shanahan’s press conference was a farce of the highest order.
First, Shanahan went through the basic tenets of coach’s privilege, one by one.
He kept Griffin in the game because Griffin said he could go.
He kept Griffin in because Griffin had “done enough this year to have that opportunity to stay in the football game.”
It moved to the disingenuous.
He didn’t think Griffin needed to come out because “a lot of guys are hurting this time of year,” and Griffin ” … wasn’t exactly the same [after the first quarter], but I have a lot of guys who aren’t exactly the same,” as if the typical wear and tear for a player somehow compared to the distress shown by Griffin, who was limping around the field and badly missing throws he would have comfortably made three hours prior.
“After that first quarter, we just didn’t seem to get things done,” Shanahan said, as if there were no traumatic, game-changing event that materially affected the play on the field.
Griffin, for all his bravery, didn’t offer much more in his press conference beyond the typical platitudes.
He insisted that he’d been able to play and that he deserved to stay in the game because he was both the team’s starting quarterback all season and the best option for them to win.
The former is irrelevant; when Griffin suffered a more serious injury that forced him from the game, it’s not like he stayed in the game because he was the team’s starting quarterback all year. The latter simply isn’t true, and while Griffin undoubtedly wanted badly to stay in the game and lead his team to a playoff victory, it shouldn’t be his decision to make.
He also suggested that the team “didn’t execute as much as we did the first few drives,” simply pretending that he was the same guy he had been during a raucous opening period.
It’s a difficult decision that should involve input from the player and head coach before falling upon the shoulders of the medical staff.
Shanahan, of course, had showed what little regard he had for the medical professionals on his sideline as recently as that morning. Sunday broke with the news that Dr. James Andrews hadn’t cleared Robert Griffin to come back into the Week 14 game against the Ravens after suffering the initial knee injury, despite Mike Shanahan claiming otherwise as part of the justification for pushing RG3 back in for four plays.
Shanahan pretended that there was a conversation with Andrews offering his consent for the move when Andrews noted that he had been shielded from evaluating Griffin by the head coach.
The medical staff — including Andrews — evaluated Griffin on Sunday after his injury and said that he was, according to the untrustworthy Shanahan, “fine to play,” suggesting that the team had checked with the doctors to “ask them their opinion if we would be hampering his LCL … or was he in good enough shape to go into the game and play at the level we need for him to win.”
It seems like an impossible argument to win.
Griffin didn’t have an MRI during the game or miss time until suffering his second knee injury of the day. He had a gigantic brace on his knee built specifically to support his LCL, so it’s not a surprise that the doctors would suggest that LCL wouldn’t be hampered.
Even if Griffin was healthy enough to step back onto the field, the dramatic dip in his performance should have been enough to tip off a coach who’s been around football for his entire life that something was wrong.
By treating Andrews as a pawn to win a press conference and then relying upon Griffin’s evaluation of his own health as the ultimate measure of his ability to perform, the Redskins showed exactly how little they care about truly evaluating their quarterback’s health.
They turned the decision-making over to Shanahan, who would normally have the ability to make a tough decision that would be the best thing for his team and his star player, but Shanahan alternately allegedly lied and passed the buck to avoid making that tough decision.
In a league that’s waging an enormous fight against concussions, one that has actively needed to remove coaches and players from the equation out of the reality that they’ll make decisions based on winning more than their own health, how can it still be acceptable in 2012 to use a player’s intuition about his health in the middle of a playoff game as the justification of your decision? How is it still enough after series after series of sub-replacement play? Is it any surprise that Griffin said afterwards that, had Shanahan prevented him from playing, he “probably would have been right back there out on the field”? Why would Griffin have respect for the appropriate medical process in that situation? Shanahan doesn’t.”
- Like Teach said, an all-time coaching blunder, you telling me Shanny did not have a back-up plan in case RGIII tweaked his knee? did he not have Cousins ready if needed? the kid only won 2 games for him and I’m certin they win that game too if they put Cousins in with a 14 point lead and let him hand the ball to Morris and throw off play-action.
January 9th, 2013 at 8:01 pm
Shanny likes to run his players into the ground. Fact. Even with a high-priced investment like RGIII, the Rat can’t help himself.
January 9th, 2013 at 8:02 pm
Bob Marley Says:
January 9th, 2013 at 7:57 pm
Anyway I’ve had enough about McLain.
Me and Edward Teach were talking about the RGIII-Shanahan situation the other day, saying how it was an all-time blunder and how the media lapdogs tried to cover up for Shanny’s screw-up.
So, today I finally got to read a good, honest piece on the issue from grantland’s Bill Barnwell, here are the best parts:
Skip if you don’t care for it, but I think it’s a good football article worth reading.
“Washington’s season started with Robert Griffin III celebrating while he was laying flat on the turf. It ended on Sunday night with Griffin writhing in the same position.
Should Griffin have stayed in after suffering what appeared to be a re-tweak of his knee injury in the first quarter? The answer — both in the moment and after the fact — is no, but that’s really two separate questions that produce a “no” for different reasons.
The first branch of that question is, “Did Robert Griffin give the Redskins the best chance to win after suffering his knee injury on that second touchdown drive?”.
The answer to that question is no, because Griffin quickly revealed himself to be a much different player from even the limited Griffin of the past few weeks.
After that drive, Griffin looked labored in moving around the pocket and downright wounded when the Redskins cruelly called a zone read and Griffin swept left for a nine-yard gain.
What was more noticeable was how little Griffin offered as a passer.
His mechanics were clearly out of whack: He wasn’t able to step into his throws and plant, turning the normally accurate Griffin into a scattershot passer. He sailed many of his throws, an issue that often comes into play with quarterbacks who aren’t able to execute their footwork properly because of a lower-body injury.
Ben Roethlisberger, for one, exhibited the same issues last year after suffering a high ankle sprain.
The Redskins tried to account for the injury by calling for screens, quick hitches, and stick routes that didn’t require Griffin to throw the ball any meaningful distance in the air, but the Seahawks were easily able to adapt without having any serious fear that Griffin would be able to beat them downfield.
You can forgive the Redskins for giving Griffin a drive or two to examine whether he would be able to contribute to the cause. You can’t fault Griffin’s guts for wanting to play, either. But it became clear no later than halftime that Griffin was more than limited; he was far below the level of a replacement-level quarterback, let alone at the level of a healthy Kirk Cousins.
After the injury occurred, Griffin threw a four-yard touchdown pass to an uncovered Logan Paulsen, but he followed that by going 4-of-10 for 18 yards with an interception, two sacks, and a fumble on his final play of the season.
The second question is much thornier.
“Were the Redskins making a decision that had Robert Griffin III’s best interests in mind?” The process that went into leaving Griffin in is more complicated than that, and it speaks to just how seriously the league takes some very antiquated and foolish ideas.
After the game, Mike Shanahan’s press conference was a farce of the highest order.
First, Shanahan went through the basic tenets of coach’s privilege, one by one.
He kept Griffin in the game because Griffin said he could go.
He kept Griffin in because Griffin had “done enough this year to have that opportunity to stay in the football game.”
It moved to the disingenuous.
He didn’t think Griffin needed to come out because “a lot of guys are hurting this time of year,” and Griffin ” … wasn’t exactly the same [after the first quarter], but I have a lot of guys who aren’t exactly the same,” as if the typical wear and tear for a player somehow compared to the distress shown by Griffin, who was limping around the field and badly missing throws he would have comfortably made three hours prior.
“After that first quarter, we just didn’t seem to get things done,” Shanahan said, as if there were no traumatic, game-changing event that materially affected the play on the field.
Griffin, for all his bravery, didn’t offer much more in his press conference beyond the typical platitudes.
He insisted that he’d been able to play and that he deserved to stay in the game because he was both the team’s starting quarterback all season and the best option for them to win.
The former is irrelevant; when Griffin suffered a more serious injury that forced him from the game, it’s not like he stayed in the game because he was the team’s starting quarterback all year. The latter simply isn’t true, and while Griffin undoubtedly wanted badly to stay in the game and lead his team to a playoff victory, it shouldn’t be his decision to make.
He also suggested that the team “didn’t execute as much as we did the first few drives,” simply pretending that he was the same guy he had been during a raucous opening period.
It’s a difficult decision that should involve input from the player and head coach before falling upon the shoulders of the medical staff.
Shanahan, of course, had showed what little regard he had for the medical professionals on his sideline as recently as that morning. Sunday broke with the news that Dr. James Andrews hadn’t cleared Robert Griffin to come back into the Week 14 game against the Ravens after suffering the initial knee injury, despite Mike Shanahan claiming otherwise as part of the justification for pushing RG3 back in for four plays.
Shanahan pretended that there was a conversation with Andrews offering his consent for the move when Andrews noted that he had been shielded from evaluating Griffin by the head coach.
The medical staff — including Andrews — evaluated Griffin on Sunday after his injury and said that he was, according to the untrustworthy Shanahan, “fine to play,” suggesting that the team had checked with the doctors to “ask them their opinion if we would be hampering his LCL … or was he in good enough shape to go into the game and play at the level we need for him to win.”
It seems like an impossible argument to win.
Griffin didn’t have an MRI during the game or miss time until suffering his second knee injury of the day. He had a gigantic brace on his knee built specifically to support his LCL, so it’s not a surprise that the doctors would suggest that LCL wouldn’t be hampered.
Even if Griffin was healthy enough to step back onto the field, the dramatic dip in his performance should have been enough to tip off a coach who’s been around football for his entire life that something was wrong.
By treating Andrews as a pawn to win a press conference and then relying upon Griffin’s evaluation of his own health as the ultimate measure of his ability to perform, the Redskins showed exactly how little they care about truly evaluating their quarterback’s health.
They turned the decision-making over to Shanahan, who would normally have the ability to make a tough decision that would be the best thing for his team and his star player, but Shanahan alternately allegedly lied and passed the buck to avoid making that tough decision.
In a league that’s waging an enormous fight against concussions, one that has actively needed to remove coaches and players from the equation out of the reality that they’ll make decisions based on winning more than their own health, how can it still be acceptable in 2012 to use a player’s intuition about his health in the middle of a playoff game as the justification of your decision? How is it still enough after series after series of sub-replacement play? Is it any surprise that Griffin said afterwards that, had Shanahan prevented him from playing, he “probably would have been right back there out on the field”? Why would Griffin have respect for the appropriate medical process in that situation? Shanahan doesn’t.”
- Like Teach said, an all-time coaching blunder, you telling me Shanny did not have a back-up plan in case RGIII tweaked his knee? did he not have Cousins ready if needed? the kid only won 2 games for him and I’m certin they win that game too if they put Cousins in with a 14 point lead and let him hand the ball to Morris and throw off play-action.
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Good read. Bottom line, it was clear he couldn’t play and Shanahan and his gigantic ego couldn’t except the fact his season was probably over
January 9th, 2013 at 8:07 pm
Guess the Chargers finally got around to hiring a GM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/09/the-daily-coaching-g-m-vacancy-update/
January 9th, 2013 at 8:09 pm
why did the raiders waste a top 10 pick on this clown. come one man, gotta stop whiffing on 1st round picks. ruined this franchise
January 9th, 2013 at 8:11 pm
I’m so traumatized from our track record with high 1st round picks that I’m hoping Reggie trades back just to take the pressure off.
Seriously. Even with the rookie salary cap and everything.
January 9th, 2013 at 8:11 pm
come on man
January 9th, 2013 at 8:12 pm
I’m so traumatized from our track record with high 1st round picks that I’m hoping Reggie trades back just to take the pressure off.
Seriously. Even with the rookie salary cap and everything.
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lmao yep
January 9th, 2013 at 8:19 pm
The only thing that Russell Wilson has avoided more than injured defenders is culpability for his actions.
His abhorrent attempts to trivilize the game with his tricks and gimmicks have threatened the integrity of a once proud league.
He waves his magic wand and pulls rabbits out of hats, but his little circus sideshow is finally coming to the end of its run.
Matty Ice. “Ice Ice Baby” is the cry from a disillusioned fandom.
The song reminds me of a great musical artist who paved the way for giants like The Beastie Boys and Eminem, and perhaps even the talented Justin Bieber.
Wilsons trickery has been an insult to a Seattle franchise accustomed to appreciating such greats as; Jim Zorn and Steve Largent; who is undoubtedly the best receiver the league has ever seen. Largent helped pave the way for the great receivers of our day. Eric Decker, Jordy Nelson and of course the prolific Wes Welker, who do just honor to the great ones like Fred Biletnikoff, Lance Alworth and who can forget Elroy ‘Crazy Legs’ Hirsch.
No Mr. Wilson. We aren’t buying what you’re selling.
EXPOSED!!!
January 9th, 2013 at 8:23 pm
I blame DMAC
January 9th, 2013 at 8:23 pm
42.The Amazing Spiderman Says:
January 9th, 2013 at 8:19 pm
The only thing that Russell Wilson has avoided more than injured defenders is culpability for his actions.
His abhorrent attempts to trivilize the game with his tricks and gimmicks have threatened the integrity of a once proud league.
He waves his magic wand and pulls rabbits out of hats, but his little circus sideshow is finally coming to the end of its run.
Matty Ice. “Ice Ice Baby” is the cry from a disillusioned fandom.
The song reminds me of a great musical artist who paved the way for giants like The Beastie Boys and Eminem, and perhaps even the talented Justin Bieber.
Wilsons trickery has been an insult to a Seattle franchise accustomed to appreciating such greats as; Jim Zorn and Steve Largent; who is undoubtedly the best receiver the league has ever seen. Largent helped pave the way for the great receivers of our day. Eric Decker, Jordy Nelson and of course the prolific Wes Welker, who do just honor to the great ones like Fred Biletnikoff, Lance Alworth and who can forget Elroy ‘Crazy Legs’ Hirsch.
No Mr. Wilson. We aren’t buying what you’re selling.
EXPOSED!!!
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This “reverse-Mistic” thing is really childish.
Please stop.
January 9th, 2013 at 8:28 pm
Please stop.
Seconded.
January 9th, 2013 at 8:29 pm
Reverse Mistic lol . Solid band name.
January 9th, 2013 at 8:31 pm
@reversemistic must be born
January 9th, 2013 at 8:31 pm
RaiderSam Says:
January 9th, 2013 at 8:31 pm
So happy Russell Wilson is in the playoffs, even happier when he continues and beats the Falcons and hopefully the Niners or Packers in the NFC championship.
the only thing that would make it sweeter would be if he won a Super Bowl over Tom Brady.
January 9th, 2013 at 8:34 pm
Papertiger418 Says:
January 9th, 2013 at 8:11 pm
I’m so traumatized from our track record with high 1st round picks that I’m hoping Reggie trades back just to take the pressure off.
Seriously. Even with the rookie salary cap and everything.
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I would almost say “they think too much”…. how could they have missed so badly
passed up Larry Fitzgerald to take Robert Gallery
i mean , i would be terrified to even think about taking Joeckel after that miss.
January 9th, 2013 at 8:36 pm
@reversemistic insists George Mikan best Laker big ever, with Chuck Nevitt in second
January 9th, 2013 at 8:37 pm
This case will be thrown out. Why do people put illegal tent on their windows and piss and moan when pulled over? Don’t give the police any reason to funk with you.
January 9th, 2013 at 8:39 pm
McClain was a solid pick at the time. Hindsight is always 20/20.
January 9th, 2013 at 8:43 pm
Bruce Feldman:
“USF announces long-time NFL asst CHUCK BRESNAHAN as Bulls new DC”
Way to go, ChuckyB! Shouldn’t he have held out for one of those coveted NFL positions, though?
January 9th, 2013 at 8:44 pm
Especially Mr. Timothy Tebow!
Re: post #11
January 9th, 2013 at 8:52 pm
Texans v. 49ers Super Bowl. With the 49ers losing their first bowl. That’s what I want.
January 9th, 2013 at 8:55 pm
Bigsnow81 Says:
January 9th, 2013 at 8:52 pm
Texans v. 49ers Super Bowl. With the 49ers losing their first bowl. That’s what I want.
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Too risky. I’d rather the Niners not make it at all.
I don’t think the Texans have what it takes to bump the Pats and Donks
January 9th, 2013 at 8:58 pm
Bigsnow81 Says:
January 9th, 2013 at 8:39 pm
McClain was a solid pick at the time. Hindsight is always 20/20.
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Yeah…safest pick, starter from Day 1, blah, blah, blah. Same with Gallery. Talking heads don’t know jack. They knock us for our picks but were singing these guys’ praises at the time.
January 9th, 2013 at 8:58 pm
Papertiger418 Says:
January 9th, 2013 at 8:43 pm
Bruce Feldman:
“USF announces long-time NFL asst CHUCK BRESNAHAN as Bulls new DC”
Way to go, ChuckyB! Shouldn’t he have held out for one of those coveted NFL positions, though?
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How about this scenario? If you HAD to choose, would you take Chucky B as a DC or Greg Knapp as an OC. Talk about a nightmare scenario.
January 9th, 2013 at 9:01 pm
How about this scenario? If you HAD to choose, would you take Chucky B as a DC or Greg Knapp as an OC. Talk about a nightmare scenario.
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Sounds like a great start in forming a Hall of Shame team. Though bed and breadfast might give Knapp a run for his money.
January 9th, 2013 at 9:01 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
January 9th, 2013 at 8:58 pm
Bigsnow81 Says:
January 9th, 2013 at 8:39 pm
McClain was a solid pick at the time. Hindsight is always 20/20.
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Yeah…safest pick, starter from Day 1, blah, blah, blah. Same with Gallery. Talking heads don’t know jack. They knock us for our picks but were singing these guys’ praises at the time.
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Fans can always second guess draft picks. Aaron Rodgers should be throwing to Calvin Johnson, IMO!
January 9th, 2013 at 9:04 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
January 9th, 2013 at 9:01 pm
How about this scenario? If you HAD to choose, would you take Chucky B as a DC or Greg Knapp as an OC. Talk about a nightmare scenario.
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Sounds like a great start in forming a Hall of Shame team. Though bed and breadfast might give Knapp a run for his money.
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Yeah, good call. Its a coin toss between them two.
January 9th, 2013 at 9:04 pm
Ultimate trade down:
Reggie trades Raiders’ #3 overall and Huff to Arizona for their 7th overall first round selection and Fitzgerald.
Then Reggie trades McClain to New York for Tebow.
Then trades the rights to Jamarcus to either Detroit or Minnesota for Johnson or Peterson.
January 9th, 2013 at 9:05 pm
edward teach Says:
January 9th, 2013 at 8:23 pm
42.The Amazing Spiderman Says:
January 9th, 2013 at 8:19 pm
The only thing that Russell Wilson has avoided more than injured defenders is culpability for his actions.
His abhorrent attempts to trivilize the game with his tricks and gimmicks have threatened the integrity of a once proud league.
He waves his magic wand and pulls rabbits out of hats, but his little circus sideshow is finally coming to the end of its run.
Matty Ice. “Ice Ice Baby” is the cry from a disillusioned fandom.
The song reminds me of a great musical artist who paved the way for giants like The Beastie Boys and Eminem, and perhaps even the talented Justin Bieber.
Wilsons trickery has been an insult to a Seattle franchise accustomed to appreciating such greats as; Jim Zorn and Steve Largent; who is undoubtedly the best receiver the league has ever seen. Largent helped pave the way for the great receivers of our day. Eric Decker, Jordy Nelson and of course the prolific Wes Welker, who do just honor to the great ones like Fred Biletnikoff, Lance Alworth and who can forget Elroy ‘Crazy Legs’ Hirsch.
No Mr. Wilson. We aren’t buying what you’re selling.
EXPOSED!!!
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This “reverse-Mistic” thing is really childish.
Please stop.
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it’s pretty funny though but i agree. it can only add to the racial crap in here.
you guys should lighten up a bit though.
you guys should
January 9th, 2013 at 9:06 pm
I can honestly say I wanted Calvin instead of Russell.
January 9th, 2013 at 9:07 pm
Good read from Silver&Black Pride. Link if you want to see comments there:
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2013/1/9/3850822/oakland-raiders-off-season-offensive-coordinator-darren-mcfadden-carson-palmer
Raiders Off-season Requisites: Offensive Coordinator is most important decision
By James Arcellana on Jan 9, 5:30a 215
The Oakland Raiders have a lot of work ahead of them this off-season, but first on the list is hiring the right offensive coordinator.
The Oakland Raiders are heading into year two of the Reggie McKenzie regime after a very disappointing 2012 season in which they finished 4-12. As the young off-season gets underway, it is important for every general manager in the NFL to have a game plan for how they will improve their team.
While much has changed in the Raider organization, one thing that has not changed is the silence that emanates from the team facilities in Alameda when it comes to roster decisions. However, while we may never know what McKenzie’s game plan for this off-season is, there is nothing stopping us from identifying what the Raiders’ game plan should be. This is the first post in a series detailing the steps that the Raiders must take in order to make the turn around everyone wants to see.
In 2012, the Oakland Raiders had one of the worst offenses in the entire NFL. While that is not surprising for the third worst team in the league, it is surprising considering they boasted a top ten offense just one year earlier and were returning nearly all of their starters on that side of the ball.
Normally, it would be difficult to put your finger on just one thing to explain such a precipitous fall from glory. This, however, is not the case with the 2012 Oakland Raiders. Here, the problem was simple; offensive coordinator Greg Knapp. Now that the Raiders have dismissed the failed play caller, they have an opportunity to return the offense to the power house it once was, but only if they make a wise decision in hiring a new offensive coordinator.
In determining who to hire as offensive coordinator, the Raiders should be looking for two primary attributes. First and foremost, the Raiders need a coordinator who knows how to fit an offense to the players they have, and not vice versa.
The single biggest problem with Knapp was attempting to shove a square peg in a round hole when he tried to overhaul the Raiders into a zone blocking scheme. If the Raiders did not have talent on offense then switching schemes would not have been a big deal. But trying to force players into the wrong scheme for no other reason than a stubborn loyalty to that scheme is simply illogical.
Like it or not, the Raiders offense was built with speed in mind and in order to get the most out of it, the Raiders need an offensive coordinator who understands and accepts that fact. Whoever the next offensive coordinator is, they must be able to get the most out of players like Darren McFadden, Denarius Moore, Jacoby Ford and Marcel Reece.
Second, the Raiders need to find an offensive coordinator who is creative in his play calling. The drastic changes implemented by Greg Knapp were bad enough, but when you look at how predictable his play calling was, you can see that he only made things worse on game day. In fact, his play calling was so bad, a drastic change was seen every time the Raiders went into the no-huddle with Carson Palmer calling the plays.
Getting the right scheme is clearly step one, but even with the right scheme, poor play calling can completely de-rail an offense. That means if the Raiders want to swing for the fences with their offensive coordinator, they need to find a guy in the NFL who has experience calling plays so they can evaluate how that person would perform on the Raiders sideline.
This season, more than almost any other, the Raiders are lucky in that they will have a ton of options from which to choose when it comes to the offensive coordinator position. With the talent that the Raiders have on the offensive side of the ball, they will likely be a contender for many of the big name offensive coordinators, but general manager Reggie McKenzie will still need to weigh his choices carefully before selecting the right candidate.
January 9th, 2013 at 9:08 pm
Raiders could’ve had Rogers throwing to both Johnson & Fitzgerald; with Oher and Clady as our tackles; still able to draft Vehldeer & Wisniewski.
January 9th, 2013 at 9:08 pm
mr. davis put us in a little bit of a pickle it seems. the bad drafting hasn’t helped our cause but who was to know jamarcus was gonna be such a bust.
mel kiper said jamarcus was the next elway. he was tops on alot of teams list.
he just didn’t work out.
mcclain didn’t either.
one of these days were gonna get it right.
January 9th, 2013 at 9:15 pm
The draft is a crapshoot just continue to take the best player available and pray it finally works out
January 9th, 2013 at 9:18 pm
Raiders need to hit a homerun with this years and next years first round picks to be legitimate sb contenders.
In three consecutive drafts Raiders have been without two 1sts, two 2nds, and a 3rd.
That’s over 50% of your premier draft picks, combine that with that Huff has been our best first round draft choice since our fg
kicker.
January 9th, 2013 at 9:21 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
January 9th, 2013 at 9:04 pm
Ultimate trade down:
Reggie trades Raiders’ #3 overall and Huff to Arizona for their 7th overall first round selection and Fitzgerald.
Then Reggie trades McClain to New York for Tebow.
Then trades the rights to Jamarcus to either Detroit or Minnesota for Johnson or Peterson.
>. Takin hits from the bong…
January 9th, 2013 at 9:21 pm
MY favorite from McCL0WN:
“I’m falsely accused of everything. It’s corrupt. It’s terrible.”
No YOU are terrible one McZ3R0.0
…both ON -and- OFF the field…
January 9th, 2013 at 9:22 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
January 9th, 2013 at 9:04 pm
Ultimate trade down:
Reggie trades Raiders’ #3 overall and Huff to Arizona for their 7th overall first round selection and Fitzgerald.
Then Reggie trades McClain to New York for Tebow.
Then trades the rights to Jamarcus to either Detroit or Minnesota for Johnson or Peterson.
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Rights to JaLoser? What rights? He was cut, waived, terminated, booted out, etc. There are NO RIGHTS to players who are cut.
McCheese has absolutely no trade value. We’d probably have to pay someone to take him. He too will be cut as JaLoser was. Maybe they can get together and share the title of Mardi Gras King for the Podunk, AL parade.
January 9th, 2013 at 9:22 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
January 9th, 2013 at 9:08 pm
Raiders could’ve had Rogers throwing to both Johnson & Fitzgerald; with Oher and Clady as our tackles; still able to draft Vehldeer & Wisniewski.
>. to pass on Rodgers was unforgivable. but we had kerry collins at the time so its understandable…RIIIIGHT
January 9th, 2013 at 9:23 pm
.001 of a second sooner, Woodson getting to Brady; Charles is still a Raider, Gruden still our HC, Bleadsoe still qbing Boston’s NFL team.
Brady probably Romo’s backup.
January 9th, 2013 at 9:24 pm
So I’m sick with the flu and on medication and I’m pretty sure my judgement is impaired because my girlfriend’s watching Rachel Maddow right now and I found myself thinking that she’s kinda cute. Rachel Maddow.
Looks like I’m headed down a dark road here, guys.
January 9th, 2013 at 9:26 pm
I will never forgive the NFL for the Tuck Rule. I can remember the exact flux of emotions that went through my brain during that Snow Bowl fiasco. We HAD that game!
January 9th, 2013 at 9:26 pm
Wouldn’t be surprised if we hired Mike Leach away from Washington State!!!
January 9th, 2013 at 9:27 pm
ian85 Says:
January 9th, 2013 at 9:15 pm
The draft is a crapshoot just continue to take the best player available and pray it finally works out
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We do have alot of dire predictions from people in here.
How many times were we picked to be good becuz we were so loaded with talent and then fizzled out? Seems that was our calling card for many years.
My point is that everything doesn’t turn out as the “experts” think it should or will.
I try to be an optimist and show how we CAN rebound this next season and get lambasted for it.
This blog is filled with so much negativity i seriously wonder how many here are really Raider fans or more Niner/Raider fans…meaning: yeah…you like the Raiders…root for em, but you always have the Niners as a fallback, or some other team.
So much talk of why were gonna suck and not much of how things might turnaround.
I know…it’s “being real” right?
January 9th, 2013 at 9:27 pm
JB I know simply trying to be obvious in my exaggerations of cuudda, shoodda, woodoves.
January 9th, 2013 at 9:29 pm
The worst part is that the AFC West is going to be fundamentally different from here on out. We’re going to be left behind, just like in the Bay with the 49ers. Everyone else is going to repair themselves while we’re still knitting our quilt or whatever.
Except for the Chargers. Those guys are screwed.
January 9th, 2013 at 9:29 pm
BLOG rule #69: Anybody evoking the name Jamarcus Russell or “handle” for said turd, gets dumped on. Just a rule of the blog road.
January 9th, 2013 at 9:30 pm
Did Al ever get that 9 million back from Jamarcus? They gotta throw that in with Johnson or Peterson when we trade his rights.
January 9th, 2013 at 9:31 pm
Invoking, and mine doesn’t count.
January 9th, 2013 at 9:32 pm
LOL
January 9th, 2013 at 9:33 pm
DJ,
Our reactionary, paranoid fanbase is the direct result of trauma incurred by Al Davis in his later years. It’s going to take us some serious time to get over these very real issues.
I’ve often thought it would make for a brilliant psychological retrospective on sports fan trauma. Start with the AFC Championship game, go through the Snow Bowl and right on into Lance and JR, all the way up to Rolando and Knapp.
January 9th, 2013 at 9:33 pm
Oh Please….Please dont start me going on about the|=uck Rule Fiasco!
January 9th, 2013 at 9:34 pm
Defense as of now, just counting players under contract:
DL: Houston, Biloduki, Kelly Crawford
LB: Burris, Gaither, Tollefson
CB: Huff, Chekwa
S: Branch, everyone else some type of FA (restricted, UFA, or exclusive rights).
Reggie needs to resign: Wheeler, Bryant, and Ross (who is our best free safety).
January 9th, 2013 at 9:34 pm
Pardon…trauma *inflicted* by Al Davis in his later years.
January 9th, 2013 at 9:39 pm
April 25th, Reggie’s most important day as Raiders’ GM.
No pressure, just the future of the NFL’s greatest team hanging in the balance.
January 9th, 2013 at 9:40 pm
I’m hoping the Raiders hire a smash mouth coordinator. That puzy-footin schit ain’t natural for the Raiders.
January 9th, 2013 at 9:40 pm
At least Game of Thrones will be on by then.
January 9th, 2013 at 9:44 pm
Never believe anything Saban says about his Bama players.
January 9th, 2013 at 9:45 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
January 9th, 2013 at 9:18 pm
Raiders need to hit a homerun with this years and next years first round picks to be legitimate sb contenders.
In three consecutive drafts Raiders have been without two 1sts, two 2nds, and a 3rd.
That’s over 50% of your premier draft picks, combine that with that Huff has been our best first round draft choice since our fg
kicker.
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Need REAL coaches and leaders of men and excellent taciticians who make in game adjustments to lead the talented players and coach em up first.
January 9th, 2013 at 9:49 pm
Oh, God. Now Maddow’s getting her panties in a twist over the lack of gender diversity in POTUS’ senior staff. God forbid he actually nominate a combat veteran and enlisted officer for SECDEF.
January 9th, 2013 at 9:53 pm
88, I get it. I experienced right along with everybody else, but i think our trauma has gotten so deep that we automatically assume the worst of any possible situation.
I made a case this morning about the Bears and how they had drafted worse than us since 2003. They also ‘mortgaged their future’ by giving up way more for Cutler than we did for Palmer and yet…they are a perennial playoff threat.
It comes down to Chi. drafting Urlacher pre-2003 as well as Tillman and Briggs and better managing the cap than us.
My point was DESPITE drafting badly for 10 yr’s now…Chi. remains a threat every year and competes for the playoffs.
I get sick of the excuses for why we have to suck.
January 9th, 2013 at 9:54 pm
We should restructure Slolando’s contract and secure him long term as our green helmeted tackling dummy.
January 9th, 2013 at 9:55 pm
At this point it is imperative that McK does whatever he can to find a trade partner to deal down and get at two more picks.
Hope he can get an additional pick in next years draft also at the same time.
There not one player in this years draft that you can with certainty is worth that #3 overall selection.
Rams and Fins have multiple picks to deal up and I think the Rams may be interested in LT Joekel.
January 9th, 2013 at 9:56 pm
papertiger418 Says:
January 9th, 2013 at 9:40 pm
At least Game of Thrones will be on by then.
^^^^^^^^^
Luv that show!
January 9th, 2013 at 9:57 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
January 9th, 2013 at 9:08 pm
Raiders could’ve had Rogers throwing to both Johnson & Fitzgerald; with Oher and Clady as our tackles; still able to draft Vehldeer & Wisniewski.
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Thats only considering the team drafted as the same spot they did.
I think Clady and Oher was a possibility only because Oher was drafted in the twenties… we could have drafted them back to back. We were still dealing with JaMoney with Clady and Oher.
Adding Fitz and/or Megatron would have boosted our win totals too much…
January 9th, 2013 at 9:59 pm
Was interesting reading the link to the Decatur paper and the comments from townspeople, among them, this one:
“A lot of the residents of the Decatur area would love to be able to say how proud we are of Rolando as one of our own, like we do with other sports figures such as Benny Perrin, Gary Reedus, and Jerraud Powers.
“Many people in this town have gone well out of their way to help Rolando to succeed in life as well as football, but he has refused to help himself. When he was growing up here a family in no way related to him opened the doors of their home to provide a decent place to live. Others who didn’t have to were supportive as well. Many of us were even willing to overlook a couple of incidents because of the possibility they were a result of someone else seeking a little notoriety. But Rolando has proven over and over where the problem lies. He refuses to be an adult and follow the same rules as everyone else is expected to. He would rather have the admiration and approval of a few street thugs than society at large. If he insists on behaving in such a manner, that is all he will get.”
Lots of “Rolando has always been a POS.”
We really used to do our research on the character of players, don’t we? I think one of the poster’s asked a good question: “How much of his behavior was covered up at school?”
January 9th, 2013 at 10:03 pm
Let’s just say the fact our defense went from historically bad to being # 3 overall in the league for the final quarter of the season wasn’t a fluke. It IS possible.
Let’s also say that Greg Knapp (as many articles and commentary have suggested) absolutely destroyed a potentially productive offense. With Knapp gone and the Raiders pursuing a ‘high octane’ OC who will play to the individual strengths, it IS POSSIBLE that the Raiders return to that high level of production.
Special teams have been a nightmare…especially on kick coverage and our own returns. Does a return of Ford on our return side improve that area? Does the ousting of Hoffman and replacing with better ST coaching help in that area as well?
Does Reggie most likely drafting a stud pass rusher or DT help the defense even more?
Does Reggie getting rid of non productive, over paid players help the cap situation and allow us to get a stud # 1 receiver?
I think the potential for these positive things happening at least bears consideration.
January 9th, 2013 at 10:04 pm
Oh, you know Saban has just about everything under wraps down there. He’s precisely that kind of controlling, megalomaniacal personality.
January 9th, 2013 at 10:07 pm
“Man what a joke I remember watching this guy every week in college for 3 years he was such a beast I can’t believe he has stooped so low and became such a pos…”
I never saw him play, but taking your word and that of others that he was a very good player in a conference of good players, perhaps he was on PEDs, and maybe when he hit the pros, he stopped taking them and that’s why he STINKS and ALWAYS HAS.
Truly, something makes no sense. In his first pre-season, I remember everyone saying that they were a bit disappointed in what they saw, but not really worried because it was, after all, his first games, he had a lot of pressure, blah, blah, blah. I thought the same thing because I never would have believed that a “consensus can’t miss pick” was looking so darned ordinary, ordinary as in a bench player, a situational player maybe. There certainly was no speed demonstrated, and only once in a while did he look as he was an immovable object when the back came through the hole, and he looked lost dropping back.
I still have to believe it was the system he was in, the players around him that made him look good in college.
January 9th, 2013 at 10:07 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
88, I get it. I experienced right along with everybody else, but i think our trauma has gotten so deep that we automatically assume the worst of any possible situation.
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Not me DJ Johnny. In fact, you just inspired a new handle for me. Be right back.
January 9th, 2013 at 10:09 pm
DJ this feels pretty good. What do you think?
January 9th, 2013 at 10:10 pm
Maybe I’ll ease into it.
January 9th, 2013 at 10:11 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 9th, 2013 at 5:19 pm
Romacs story is a cautionary tale.
law enforcment history in amerikkka goes back to slave catchers. Slave catchers were the first organized law enforcement groups. look up the history of the texas rangers if you dont believe it.
Now im really gone
Peace
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True!
January 9th, 2013 at 10:11 pm
“That he was a bipolar a$$hole and had that incident where he ran that Bama student over in a car.”
Really, I was saying way back that maybe he was bipolar, that his behavior mimicked it whether he was or wasn’t. You’d think after the Barrett Robbins fiasco, we’d pay closer attention to a player’s mental health issues.
That raises a question: are teams only allowed to have their doctors give players a physical before the final contract is signed or can they get med records before that and before the draft? If so, those med records should include any mental health problems, if they’ve been documented.
January 9th, 2013 at 10:13 pm
Don’t get caught up in believing in Bama players are studs and winners just because they play in an SEC title team.
Smoke and Mirrors with those guys.
January 9th, 2013 at 10:13 pm
Eternal Optimist Says:
January 9th, 2013 at 10:09 pm
DJ this feels pretty good. What do you think?
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Ha. I love it.
Bust him out every now and then please.
January 9th, 2013 at 10:16 pm
it’s always easier said than done
January 9th, 2013 at 10:24 pm
“mr. davis put us in a little bit of a pickle it seems. the bad drafting hasn’t helped our cause but who was to know jamarcus was gonna be such a bust.”
Everyone should have known, everyone with an ounce of sense who_did_their_homework. Why? Because everyone knew that Jamarcus played the game as sandlot football. Yeah, that stuff doesn’t get printed, but everyone knew that he was no studier of the game, that he was laid-back, that his ambitions went no further than wanting to lift passes the way one would in a pick-up game. He’d been able to get away with his awesome physical abilities in college, but damn, the NFL isn’t college.
Lane Kiffen knew. If Lane Kiffen knew, EVERYONE but Al knew.
January 9th, 2013 at 10:26 pm
We were just as bad as everyone said we would be. I remember seeing Gannon predict us for last place in the west and rank us # 25 in the power rankings and was thinking he was just being a hater. It turns out he was right. In fact we were worse than that.
Before the season it didn’t make sense we would be bad.
Palmer w/ full offseason, DMAC healthy and a defensive minded HC? I was very excited. I figured we lost 4 games due to our defense choking..which i still believe to be the case, and now our defense couldn’t possibly be worse, and all we needed was for it to be below average…and not horrible.
I was wary of Knapp but figured it couldn’t be THIS bad. I was wrong.
I was drinking the koolaid but i really thought it was “reality based”.
January 9th, 2013 at 10:28 pm
“So I’m sick with the flu and on medication and I’m pretty sure my judgement is impaired because my girlfriend’s watching Rachel Maddow right now and I found myself thinking that she’s kinda cute. Rachel Maddow.
“Looks like I’m headed down a dark road here, guys.
”
You for damn sure are. The lesbo has neck muscles, dude. Get off that hater of a network, that pos that deals in pc idiocy.
January 9th, 2013 at 10:30 pm
DJ Johnny, did you read post 65? Knapp was a LOT of the problem.
January 9th, 2013 at 10:30 pm
The Chargers’ new GM looks like Buster from Arrested Development:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/09/telescos-first-task-finding-a-coach/
January 9th, 2013 at 10:33 pm
Purvisman,
I’ve got a recommendation for that new handle: How about Eternal Sunshine?
January 9th, 2013 at 10:33 pm
“I will never forgive the NFL for the Tuck Rule. I can remember the exact flux of emotions that went through my brain during that Snow Bowl fiasco. We HAD that game!’
Things haven’t been the same since. I can still remember knowing as the officials talked that we’d be ripped off. IN the following days and weeks as writers and even former officials tried to explain the rule I kept yelling, “Damn, according to the ‘logic’ of this rule, all a qb has to do in order to never have his fumbling of the ball ruled a fumble while he’s behind the LOS is take the hike, then immediately raise his arm with the ball as in the throwing pose…then no matter how or where he goes behind that LOS, if the ball comes out, the refs can never call it a fumble. They can always say he was in the act of throwing because he hasn’t tucked it away.”
What a crock.
January 9th, 2013 at 10:35 pm
I agree, Joeckel must be available at #3 in order for the Raiders to trade down.
January 9th, 2013 at 10:36 pm
Exactly, Shutdown. As soon as the refs held a conference to discuss it, I knew we were royally f@cked. That cold dread coming right in after Biekert recovered the fumble and my elation was at an all-time high.
Perfect playcall. Perfect execution. Stupid rule.
January 9th, 2013 at 10:37 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
January 9th, 2013 at 10:30 pm
DJ Johnny, did you read post 65? Knapp was a LOT of the problem.
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I DID, and I want to believe that he was an even bigger problem than what anybody thinks.
January 9th, 2013 at 10:41 pm
I’ll admit to being disconcerted but cautiously optimistic about Knapp’s hiring when it happened. It’s not the first time I’ve tried to foist hope onto an objectively disappointing hire.
The thing that really got my nerves up was when Wiz 1.0 left the team to spend more time with his family. Then I knew we were in trouble.
January 9th, 2013 at 10:43 pm
shutdown Says:
Lane Kiffen knew. If Lane Kiffen knew, EVERYONE but Al knew.
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I’ve been watching the sports media jump all over Al for his sometimes unorthodox drafts since 1980 and it became an annual media festival. The draftniks, semi-pros and talking heads couldn’t wait to sneer and deride his picks whenever possible. No one did with Russell. A few had reservations, but all agreed it was either Jamarcus or Quinn and no one picked Quinn. Repeat the untruth as long as you like, it will still be untrue.
January 9th, 2013 at 10:45 pm
I think that IF we were to turn it around next season (i’m not talking Super Bowl just playoff level competitive) that the “experts” will look back and see how it all made sense how we came back to life; as opposed to saying “Wow..who would’ve thought THIS would happen? This is totally out of nowhere”.
January 9th, 2013 at 10:45 pm
At least he’ll never play another game in a Raiders uniform. AD didnt care about player character.
McClain is exhibit A, and why the new regime will do differently.
In Reggie we trust.
January 9th, 2013 at 10:49 pm
papertiger418 Says:
Purvisman,
I’ve got a recommendation for that new handle: How about Eternal Sunshine?
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I’m optimistic, not delusional. Besides, without the dark you wouldn’t appreciate the sunshine.
January 9th, 2013 at 10:51 pm
I can picture “experts” saying “Well, we knew Palmer was a good QB and what a talent DMAC is, and the defense really turned it around during the last half of the season, and it really appears that the change in OC really made a difference and it’s obvious he was holding this offense back”.
Maybe it’s just playing on my fantasy TV…lol.
January 9th, 2013 at 10:53 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
January 9th, 2013 at 10:49 pm
papertiger418 Says:
Purvisman,
I’ve got a recommendation for that new handle: How about Eternal Sunshine?
==================================================
I’m optimistic, not delusional. Besides, without the dark you wouldn’t appreciate the sunshine.
—
We’ve endured so much pain we deserve some good karma to come our way. We have definitely paid our dues.
January 9th, 2013 at 10:55 pm
papertiger418 Says:
I’ll admit to being disconcerted but cautiously optimistic about Knapp’s hiring when it happened.
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I thought he might be older and wiser and less inflexible, more willing to utilize the talent he had to work with. I was optimistic but wrong.
January 9th, 2013 at 10:58 pm
jraider Says:
January 9th, 2013 at 10:45 pm
At least he’ll never play another game in a Raiders uniform. AD didnt care about player character.
McClain is exhibit A, and why the new regime will do differently.
In Reggie we trust.
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I think Al cared. He admitted they turned a blind eye to “character issues” and that they should have been more diligent on that end. I just think he chose to ignore those aspects.
Admittedly, you can’t be a good GM and live on hope or think character doesn’t matter.
January 9th, 2013 at 11:00 pm
Evening, all…
January 9th, 2013 at 11:02 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 9th, 2013 at 4:29 pm
I have to comment on this romac article.
[snipped]
Romac shows all of the signs of mental illness. This is rampant in our community.
[snipped]
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Methinks Mistic should not have opened this line of commentary!
January 9th, 2013 at 11:14 pm
Joeckel value has gone up with Lewan coming back to school, if he is there at #3 a trade with the Rams could be possible and could unfold like this:
Raiders give #3 and DHB for the Rams 2 #1’s their 3rd and next year 2nd.
1a—G Chance Warmack
1b—C Barret Jones
3a—DE Tank Carradine
3b—DT Everett Dawkins
4—MLB Jon Bostic
I bet there would be a lot of happy fans with this draft
January 9th, 2013 at 11:38 pm
Ron69 Says:
January 9th, 2013 at 11:14 pm
Joeckel value has gone up with Lewan coming back to school, if he is there at #3 a trade with the Rams could be possible and could unfold like this:
Raiders give #3 and DHB for the Rams 2 #1’s their 3rd and next year 2nd.
1a—G Chance Warmack
1b—C Barret Jones
3a—DE Tank Carradine
3b—DT Everett Dawkins
4—MLB Jon Bostic
I bet there would be a lot of happy fans with this draft
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Put the HunnyBadger in the 6th and you got a Reallionaire!!!
January 9th, 2013 at 11:47 pm
Where is everybody?
January 9th, 2013 at 11:48 pm
I may have to talk with myself yet again.
January 9th, 2013 at 11:53 pm
Can Someone put together a realistic free agent list of people who we could actually sign?
January 9th, 2013 at 11:55 pm
I’d love to sign Larry Grant, resign Omar Gaither, Sam shields, DRC is probably unrealistic…
January 9th, 2013 at 11:56 pm
DJ-post #78 might be the best comment you’ve ever made.Your observations about comments on here are dead on.It does make one wonder.
January 9th, 2013 at 11:57 pm
Wonder what the health of Jeff Otah& Marcus McNeil is…..we could sign one of them pretty cheap.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:00 am
It is difficult to say who will be available until teams designate their franchise tags.Someone like Bowe,who would be a great addition,might get tagged.So might others.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:02 am
I don’t see Bowe coming here in a million years…Y would he wanna play here when he could play anywhere he wants??? Greg Jennings yes cause of his ties to Reggie, any former Packer would be a best bet here.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:03 am
Why wouldn’t Bowe want to play here?
January 10th, 2013 at 12:08 am
C’mon man be realistic…our franchise has been labeled a disaster…no real free agents want to play here. Its gonna take a good 5-8 years to get a premium top of the line free agent wanting to play for us, im a huge Raiders fan but we all have to come to our senses and be realistic…..
January 10th, 2013 at 12:08 am
He would have a better QB throwing to him than he will in KC,or many other places for that matter.He could ‘get back’ at KC.He’d step right in as the #1 guy from the get go.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:11 am
It’s about the Benjamin’s.If we offered him the best deal he’d come here.The real question is would/could we offer it to him.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:11 am
Oh I agree with the thought of having him as our true #1 with D.Moore and Streater, A healthy McFadden…….Damn we’d be very dangerous!! But he’ll have his pick to go anywhere he wants..
January 10th, 2013 at 12:13 am
Oh yea im sure we could I’d love for Reggie to gut this whole roster.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:20 am
Will he have his pick?Many of the better teams have their receiving core set or at least have their #1.Do you believe he’d go someplace knowing he’d be at least #2 or lower?He’ll want to go where he is top dog.You’d have to also believe he’d look at the QB before he went somewhere.Although some on here constantly berate the guy,Palmer might be intriguing to a top flight WR. Welcome to Oakland.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:23 am
I hear ya man…Carson’s a very good QB, despite his Td-Int ratio…man the only we can do is hope he’ll come here, I could see him going to St.Louis and playing with Bradford or going down to Miami, warm weather, good up and coming team..im just saying he could go to better places…just trying to be optimistic.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:25 am
I’m not saying he will come here,but it isn’t something we should just dismiss either.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:27 am
I understand im just want everyone to be realistic….
January 10th, 2013 at 12:29 am
Why Bowe would come here…
Revenge on KC
Would be top dog #1 WR
Has a legitimate QB in Palmer (and a young up-and-comer behind him)
To stay in the AFC
Why Bowe wouldn’t come here…
Far better contract dollars elsewhere than Reggie is willing/able to afford
Uncertainty at back-up 2+ years from now
Maybe doesn’t want to hate on Chiefs and pick an NFC team
Probably wants to win now finally and pick a team with a realistic shot of the lombardi
Has no connection with any Raiders coach/player that he might elsewhere
January 10th, 2013 at 12:31 am
I pick the latter, like I said I see Jennings coming here before Bowe, but id be freaking ecstatic if he suited up for the Silver&Black!!!
January 10th, 2013 at 12:33 am
Our team still has the stink of irrelevance on it, which is why having such a bad record this season really hurts our chances of landing a choice FA or two.
If we’d just been able to float around .500 (beating SD, Browns, and Panthers) Reggie might have been able to make a pitch about the Raiders being able to turn the corner.
Instead we’ll have to throw more $ at players just to get them to come in despite their reservations about the state of the franchise. It’s sad but it’s the truth. At least Reggie won’t be sinking us under ridiculous contracts like Al did at the end.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:33 am
Didn’t the Rams just draft Givens whom they really like pretty high plus another guy?They also have a #1 WR-Amendola.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:35 am
Amendola is a slot player like Wes Welker, they may slowly bring them along if they could get Bowe…
January 10th, 2013 at 12:36 am
And yes, Jennings seems like the logical choice. I just worry about his durability; don’t want another Javon Walker fiasco.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:39 am
The thing is teams with a,as you call it,realistic shot at the Lombardi already have their #1 WRs.I doubt he will go somewhere to play 2nd fiddle.The main factor will be the $ and the question will be will Reggie want to pay whatever he needs to,to sign him.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:41 am
I don’t think so, not with all the holes we have..2years from now possibly.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:41 am
If I may be so bold, given the financial circumstances the Raiders face, it may pay them to acquire as many late draft choices as possible in order to get some bodies on both sides of the line. I believe the Raider scout should look to a lot of small schools for diamonds in the rough that would come cheaper than early round picks from big schools.
This may sound crazy, but with all the Raiders’ needs, they might want to look for guys that can play ironman football.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:42 am
I’d rather go after Wallace than jennings.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:43 am
*scouts
January 10th, 2013 at 12:43 am
I’d love to have Mike Wallace to stretch the field!!!!
January 10th, 2013 at 12:45 am
I think it is safe to assume the scouts are doing exactly that.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:45 am
I have to agree with Scrouge we need as many picks as we can get……plain&simple….
January 10th, 2013 at 12:46 am
Lefty, I sure hope so, but, with all this discussion about the need to find a “star” player for the team to meld behind, I kinda doubt it.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:46 am
If Reggie wanted to make a bad-a$$ statement, he’d find a way to get Wallace, Bowe and Jennings here. Break the cap on those three, and invest the draft picks on OL and front 7.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:48 am
No matter what they do, I don’t think the Raiders will be a very good team next year. They can’t afford to be financially. Yet, with some very incredible scouting and some well-considered risk-taking, I believe they could field a competitive team and make it worth watching.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:49 am
The discussion is being made by a bunch of blog GMs.I haven’t heard any such statements from the organization.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:50 am
Thanks, OKRaider!
January 10th, 2013 at 12:50 am
Anything is better than this year, if we can find a competent OC it’ll be a improvement.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:51 am
Lefty, that’s true. But, you know, there’s always the draw of the “big name” draft pick.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:52 am
Only problem is Wallace is a Restricted FA. I think that means we’d have to outbid the Steelers to retain him, and have to give them draft picks for him. So we can rule him out.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:52 am
Scourge,with a competent OC and just a few key additions,this team could be very competitive next year.We can’t compete with the top dogs yet,but we can with everyone else.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:54 am
I didn’t realize he is a RFA.Forget it.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:54 am
At some point, these high salaries/bonuses will have to stop. Given the constraints the Raiders face, perhaps now is the time to challenge the status quo and put together a team of “no-names” who were good players at small colleges (but have a LOT of potential) and some veteran players who have a little gas left in the tank and have something to prove (and come at a reasonable price).
January 10th, 2013 at 12:56 am
Like I said I’d love for Reggie to guy this team, bring in a bunch of no-names, people who realize that this is a team game. I wanna know that we have a chance every Sunday!!
January 10th, 2013 at 12:56 am
Lefty, I agree with you re: OC and most or the rest of your thought. The only thing I’m not sure about is how you’re defining “key additions.” Do you mean specific positions to be filled, specific players to be added, or specific types of players…I’m not sure what you mean.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:00 am
That has already started.We are getting ‘football’ players that love to play the game.But you still need players that can actually play.And you will have to pay some guys.As long as they fit and don’t break the bank get them.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:01 am
Just on coaches.
Carmichael is unemployed, interviewing for HC job at Bears. I don’t see any connection with Reggie or the Raiders, thru college or the pros.
Aaron Kromer has coached at the Raiders before as OL coach during the last SB era.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:06 am
Positions like a good FS,a pass rusher(OLB/DE type),a DT,a #1 WR,better guards,maybe a better RT.Things like that.For now I trust Reggie and DA to pick who those players might be.They know better than we do.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:07 am
There was a post by someone (can’ remember the name) in the last story Cork posted that I really liked. In essence, the guy wrote that there are just too many variables involved in the draft, free agency, etc. to bother fixating on player names. The vast majority of outstanding, excellent, or, maybe even, very good players are beyond the Raiders’ pay scale. That’s why I take the view I do.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:08 am
Carmichael and DA coached together before and DA will hire the OC.He and Reggie will probably discuss it,but the decision will be his.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:10 am
Lefty, the positions you mention make sense. I think most of those positions, except WR, can be filled at the later stages of the draft or with some well-vetted UFAs (UDFAs?).
January 10th, 2013 at 1:12 am
Scourge,I prefer to look at positions of need instead of looking at certain players or throwing out names although I did bring up Bowe.Usually I don’t that.They know the players better than I.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:15 am
If the Raiders have to be conservative with their money for the next however many years, then, it might make sense to make this type of player selection they’re niche in the league. Be the team that gives unheralded players a chance to make their mark for a couple/few years at a reasonable salary (with lots of incentives for performance), then allows them to leave for a bigger payday with another team.
But I could be very wrong…
January 10th, 2013 at 1:16 am
Maybe we have to wait till Carmichael finds out if Bears hire someone else as HC. If any other teams (Eagles, Cardinals, etc) interview him too or not.
As OC behind Allen, who was a DB coach, wouldn’t be a very appealing job for him.
A guy like Carmichael would probably feel his time is right to become a HC. And Kromer maybe might feel his ready to be an OC.
Would be a miracle if Allen convinced Carmichael to be OC again for another 2+ years, and Kromer an OL coach for another 2+ years.
Reggie could entice Carmichael here, however, like Al enticed Hue — ready to step in as HC if the incumbent does another face plant.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:18 am
But you could also be totally correct.It could also be we give them this opportunity,they make the most of it,and when they are eligible to leave we are capable of paying them.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:20 am
lefty12 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:12 am
Scourge,I prefer to look at positions of need instead of looking at certain players or throwing out names although I did bring up Bowe.Usually I don’t that.They know the players better than I.
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An approach I prefer too. I don’t know the names. I don’t follow it *that* closely. I also don’t get involved in the researching of statistics and all that the “fan”actics do. The idea that “on any Sunday, any NFL team can go out and beat any other NFL teams” shows how incredible difficult the whole process is.
That’s my story and I’m sticking to it….until I stumble across a better one.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:21 am
lefty12 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:18 am
But you could also be totally correct.It could also be we give them this opportunity,they make the most of it,and when they are eligible to leave we are capable of paying them.
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Exactly. At least that’s what my tired brain says at 4:23 am EST.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:22 am
Why wouldn’t Carmichael want to be a OC here if he isn’t hired as a HC this year?He would have total control over the offense.If we performed he would look even more attractive in the future for someone.It would be a great fit.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:24 am
The OC that would have been a great addition to the Raiders’ staff is O’Brien, the current Penn State HC and former NE QB coach. IMHO. But I’m glad Bill’s staying here in Happy Valley.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:25 am
I hear you,its getting late.Goodnight all and thanks for the conversation without all the hate and BS.Sometimes this is the only time that is possible.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:26 am
Lefty
I mean, while he’s being shown interest as a HC candidate, being an OC here would be the last preference.
If he didnt get the Bears job, Eagles and Cardinals and Chargers will probably interview too.. they’re all looking for an offensive-minded HC.
Also, Reggie apparently interviewed or wanted to interview him last year as HC, so that could work for or against us trying to hire him as OC.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:26 am
AS an aside, I’m surprised a KK impersonator isn’t herein about now. I could use a chuckle after my day today.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:27 am
Good night, Lefty.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:28 am
Thanks for chat. Enjoyed it (and having someone agree with me for once)!
January 10th, 2013 at 1:45 am
*tumbleweed bounces thru*
January 10th, 2013 at 1:45 am
*door to the saloon rattles*
January 10th, 2013 at 1:50 am
G’d night, Nation!
January 10th, 2013 at 3:59 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/09/rolando-mcclain-im-falsely-accused-corrupt-cops-are-out-to-get-me/
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Reggie,
the guy has no trade value. How much longer are you gonna allow this turd to claim he plays for the silver & black??
cut him now!
January 10th, 2013 at 4:01 am
“My name? Omar Gaither, officer.”
January 10th, 2013 at 5:04 am
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 9th, 2013 at 7:41 pm
Honestly McClain is a grown man now..
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That is clearly not the case.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:09 am
202.RaiderRockstar Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 3:59 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/09/rolando-mcclain-im-falsely-accused-corrupt-cops-are-out-to-get-me/
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Reggie,
the guy has no trade value. How much longer are you gonna allow this turd to claim he plays for the silver & black??
cut him now!
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Th answer to your question lies somewhere in McClain’s contract or the CBA rules. Reggie’s not keeping him around because he’s staying on the team. He’s just waiting for the most advantageous time (from the team’s perspective) to cut bait.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:29 am
Even a Hollywood writer off his head on drugs and booze couldn’t make this up.
Trade Romac for a balloon and mars bar.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:33 am
Chuck Bresnahan turned up here locally in Tampa. USF Bulls hired him as their new Def coord. Not knocking it. Work is work.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:38 am
DJ Johnny Says:
January 9th, 2013 at 10:26 pm
We were just as bad as everyone said we would be. I remember seeing Gannon predict us for last place in the west and rank us # 25 in the power rankings and was thinking he was just being a hater. It turns out he was right. In fact we were worse than that.
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Hey, not so fast Johnny.
We finished 3rd in the divison!!!!!
January 10th, 2013 at 5:39 am
Good morning Nation.
McClain is 23 yo. He is As old as JJ who is considered a top 5 pick. I didn’t want to give up on him, but its too late now.
He needs a new start. Maybe that will help his career and his life. I’m going to PO if he signs with the pats/ ravens and plays well.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:40 am
Pft has the Raiders trading Romac to FOX.
He’s going to play a zombie in “the walking dead”.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:41 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Really do not know what to say about McClain anymore…where do these guys come from? Oh…Alabama…
January 10th, 2013 at 5:42 am
Report out now says Seau had debilitating brain disease caused by too many hits to the head.
http://gma.yahoo.com/exclusive-seau-suffered-brain-disease-nfl-hits-184150065–abc-news-health.html
January 10th, 2013 at 5:42 am
What’s wrong with The Raiders? What is our problem? Drafting or developing players?
January 10th, 2013 at 5:44 am
You hear of other teams interviewing and background checking players.I guess the Raiders don’t.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:45 am
What’s wrong with The Raiders?
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Culture of losing.
Can be cancerous.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:50 am
Neilb Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 5:44 am
You hear of other teams interviewing and background checking players.I guess the Raiders don’t.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
We make the Lions look good as an org,
January 10th, 2013 at 5:51 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Really do not know what to say about McClain anymore…where do these guys come from? Oh…Alabama…
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Hey now…That’s sacred land. Don’t be talking about my home sweet home Alabamie!
Nicest people in the world imo.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:53 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 5:45 am
What’s wrong with The Raiders?
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Culture of losing.
Can be cancerous.
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Hiring an inexperienced HC, DC, and knapp didn’t help the situation. We need winners.
IMO, we should fire DA, he didn’t do anything to earn another year, and try to hire an established HC like L Smith.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:54 am
TRADE VALUE,IF THERE WAS ANY,DROPPING BY THE HOUR..
January 10th, 2013 at 5:55 am
But O, we need continuity!
January 10th, 2013 at 5:55 am
You guys ready for the ultimate irony?
Last night driving home from El Paso, I got pulled over for “traveling in the left lane for too long and not passing”.
Yes, apparently in New Mexico, the fast lane is only for passing, so going a few miles over the speed limit like I was is illegal!!!
$71 fine.
F U Police!!!!!!
January 10th, 2013 at 5:55 am
Hey now…That’s sacred land. Don’t be talking about my home sweet home Alabamie!
Nicest people in the world imo.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Jabustus and McPlaine?
January 10th, 2013 at 5:56 am
Plain*
January 10th, 2013 at 5:56 am
guest123 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 5:51 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Really do not know what to say about McClain anymore…where do these guys come from? Oh…Alabama…
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Hey now…That’s sacred land. Don’t be talking about my home sweet home Alabamie!
Nicest people in the world imo.
Ok, I apologize…From Nick Sabaan’s Alabama U
January 10th, 2013 at 5:59 am
Hwnrdr,
Jabustus wasn’t from the Nick Saban’s Alabama U. He is from Alabama….period.
January 10th, 2013 at 6:00 am
JFB,HOW DID U SIGN YOUR TICKET ?
January 10th, 2013 at 6:00 am
McClain could have avoided all this, just be signing the stupid ticket and paying his 35 cents (to him) fine. When you have that kind of money, why argue about it or get offended? It’s like splitting hairs on how much to tip your waiter on a $50 tab. Hmm, do I tip $7.50 or do I tip $10? This is a tough decision….This is the proper context when you think about how much that fine would hurt him.
January 10th, 2013 at 6:01 am
You got Mushed.
January 10th, 2013 at 6:02 am
I’ll bet you didn’t sign the ticket “f**k y’all”.
January 10th, 2013 at 6:03 am
Alabama is a place that time forgot. Old Southern Baptist predominates. A lot of good traditions but still see a lot of segegation. The median income is low, so if you can get a salary along the national average at your education/experience level, you can live like a king there. A middle salary can afford a plantation there just about, it’s great. I recommend anyone looking to upgrade to consider Alabama.
January 10th, 2013 at 6:03 am
221.Just Fire Baby Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 5:55 am
You guys ready for the ultimate irony?
Last night driving home from El Paso, I got pulled over for “traveling in the left lane for too long and not passing”.
Yes, apparently in New Mexico, the fast lane is only for passing, so going a few miles over the speed limit like I was is illegal!!!
$71 fine.
F U Police!!!!!!
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About six months ago I had a cop follow me for approximately 10 minutes. He finally pulled me over and told me that the reason he did it was that I changed lanes awhile back and didn’t have my turn signal on for a full five seconds.
And people wonder why we can’t stand the bastards.
January 10th, 2013 at 6:04 am
I was tempted to fight it and go to court, but not in some podunk town in Socorro County.
Got me on the “Stay right” law.
Never even heard of such a thing.
January 10th, 2013 at 6:06 am
Raider O Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 5:59 am
Hwnrdr,
Jabustus wasn’t from the Nick Saban’s Alabama U. He is from Alabama….period.
I know…I was talking about McClain…and funny, Russell showed up at a Warriors game wearing a Crimson Tide jacket and got booed (well, not because of the jacket)
January 10th, 2013 at 6:06 am
Got me on the “Stay right” law.
Never even heard of such a thing.
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I have. But only travelling thru Texas. They post signs near the mile markers that say “left lane is for passing only”. But I’ve never seen those signs in metro areas.
January 10th, 2013 at 6:08 am
guest123 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 6:03 am
Alabama is a place that time forgot. Old Southern Baptist predominates. A lot of good traditions but still see a lot of segegation. The median income is low, so if you can get a salary along the national average at your education/experience level, you can live like a king there. A middle salary can afford a plantation there just about, it’s great. I recommend anyone looking to upgrade to consider Alabama.
Agreed, or anywhere in the midwest…however my friends father told me once to be careful, because if you ever want to come back west, it will be hard to do!
January 10th, 2013 at 6:08 am
Guest123 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 5:55 am
But O, we need continuity!
$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Lol
We should h ave kept Hue if Continuity was a priority or a concern.
January 10th, 2013 at 6:09 am
FIGERED I WOULD GET THE “WITH A PEN” DEAD-PAN RESPONSE…
January 10th, 2013 at 6:09 am
This guy and JaWalrus have GOT to be Brothers from a different Mother…
January 10th, 2013 at 6:09 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 5:55 am
You guys ready for the ultimate irony?
Last night driving home from El Paso, I got pulled over for “traveling in the left lane for too long and not passing”.
Yes, apparently in New Mexico, the fast lane is only for passing, so going a few miles over the speed limit like I was is illegal!!!
$71 fine.
F U Police!!!!!!
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
ROFLMAO
January 10th, 2013 at 6:11 am
Alabama is a place that time forgot. Old Southern Baptist predominates. A lot of good traditions but still see a lot of segegation. The median income is low, so if you can get a salary along the national average at your education/experience level, you can live like a king there. A middle salary can afford a plantation there just about, it’s great. I recommend anyone looking to upgrade to consider Alabama.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
It was a joke.
January 10th, 2013 at 6:12 am
I was just sitting in the car like “If this guy writes me a ticket for this ish after standing up for the shield all morning on the blog……”
January 10th, 2013 at 6:12 am
however my friends father told me once to be careful, because if you ever want to come back west, it will be hard to do!
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Yep,
Moving back will net you a 15% raise in salary but your cost of living will double. It’s hard to give up all brick home custom construction, hardwood floor, granite countertops, 8 inch carved crown molding, plantation shutters, etc… and move back to California where you get cheap stucco homes with single pane windows and spec tile floors and gerber carpets and 10000 sf lots compared to 2 to 3 acres of land. You get used to the good life to ever want to go back.
January 10th, 2013 at 6:13 am
So that’s why Slo-Mo was always out of position and couldn’t cover anyone?…He just needed some sports sunglasses…LMAO…Donkey.
January 10th, 2013 at 6:13 am
I was just sitting in the car like “If this guy writes me a ticket for this ish after standing up for the shield all morning on the blog……”
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irony. too bad you didn’t cross paths with a fireman to settle the score.
January 10th, 2013 at 6:14 am
232.Just Fire Baby Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 6:04 am
I was tempted to fight it and go to court, but not in some podunk town in Socorro County.
Got me on the “Stay right” law.
Never even heard of such a thing.
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We have it here in NY too, on major highways. It is a revenue generator, and that is a police officers job!
January 10th, 2013 at 6:14 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 6:12 am
I was just sitting in the car like “If this guy writes me a ticket for this ish after standing up for the shield all morning on the blog……”
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Did you tell him how much you love, respect, and appreciate the police?
LOL
Chico!
January 10th, 2013 at 6:15 am
Don’t worry ’bout it.2 years ago got caught driving 33 in 30mph zone.£76 fine and a day of talks about the evils of speeding.
Police hate drivers/cars where ever you are.
January 10th, 2013 at 6:15 am
Guest123 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 6:13 am
I was just sitting in the car like “If this guy writes me a ticket for this ish after standing up for the shield all morning on the blog……”
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irony. too bad you didn’t cross paths with a fireman to settle the score.
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LMAO
You people are funny.
January 10th, 2013 at 6:17 am
We have it here in NY too, on major highways. It is a revenue generator, and that is a police officers job!
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
I thought a police officers job is to protect and serve the community.
January 10th, 2013 at 6:18 am
PISS-MOAN,PISS-MOAN..U COULD ALWAYS WALK..
January 10th, 2013 at 6:19 am
……..and which community would that be?
January 10th, 2013 at 6:20 am
Hate to interrupt this cop hate fest, but I for one am glad that McJogger had the misfortune of crossing paths with this dooshbag cop who trumped up a charge out of spite/revenge. Couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy.
January 10th, 2013 at 6:21 am
PISS-MOAN,PISS-MOAN..U COULD ALWAYS WALK..
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Fiesty this morning aren’t you!!!
January 10th, 2013 at 6:22 am
Neilb Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 6:19 am
……..and which community would that be?
$$$$$$$$$$$$
The one that likes to generate revenue from effing good decent citizens.
January 10th, 2013 at 6:23 am
Rolando sure knows how to make a bad thing worse doesn’t he?
Like our run defense. Bad enough our interior D-lineman don’t stay discplined, but then he compounds it by whiffing or jogging.
Slo-Mania!!!
January 10th, 2013 at 6:24 am
FIGHT THE POWER!!!
January 10th, 2013 at 6:25 am
GOOD MORNING JFB,JUST CHECK’N TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY’S AWAKE..HAVE RECIEVED A QUESTIONABLE VIOLATION OR 2 IN MY DRIVING CAREER..
January 10th, 2013 at 6:26 am
I feel like listening to some Public Enemy and wearing some Cross Colours.
January 10th, 2013 at 6:27 am
edward teach Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 6:03 am
221.Just Fire Baby Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 5:55 am
You guys ready for the ultimate irony?
Last night driving home from El Paso, I got pulled over for “traveling in the left lane for too long and not passing”.
Yes, apparently in New Mexico, the fast lane is only for passing, so going a few miles over the speed limit like I was is illegal!!!
$71 fine.
F U Police!!!!!!
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I hate to tell you bro, but there is no such thing as “The Fast Lane” It is in fact called the “Passing Lane” and you shouldn’t drive in it unless you are passing someone..The reason for which is simple. Other people use it as a passing lane, Usually women (sorry but it’s true) go into LaLa land in the passing lane because they see no difference between the two lanes (but there is) so when someone comes up behind them they don’t get back into the right lane to allow them to pass, they sit right there in the (left) passing lane and make the person pass them on the RIGHT…This is the danger. People aren’t expecting to be passed on the right….The woman driving in the passing (Right) lane suddenly just decides to move to the right for whatever reason while getting passed on that side and bang..highway accident and a high probability of fatalities due to high speed passing. It happens ALL the time. Im sure there have been times you have been cruising along passing people and then you get up behind some idiot that refuses to get out of your way and now you have to pass them on the right and your like “Hey Idiot, Im over here now, don’t merge into me..” Some people just shouldn’t be on the road…Im not saying you..but there is no reason my 90 year old grandmother should still be driving a 2000 pound Camry..
Not saying you should have been pulled over, and of course I have never seen it, but cops are much more likely to pull you over if he feels what you are doing could cause an accident…much more than expired plates, or stickers, or crap like that. Personally I wish they would pull more people over for going UNDER the speed limit by 10mph’s…
January 10th, 2013 at 6:28 am
I believe this now makes more arrests than turnovers created in Slo-Mania’s distinguished NFL career.
Only in Raiderland……SMFH
January 10th, 2013 at 6:29 am
Did MikieG just call me a woman?
LOL
January 10th, 2013 at 6:32 am
You know, MikieG is correct. I remember growing up in Hawaii and that is all the left lane was for, until they made it the Diamond lane!
January 10th, 2013 at 6:32 am
Theres a travel lane and a passing lane. Only you people cruise 3 MPH over the speed limit in the passing lane obliviopus to all the cars zooming up on your rear end, then flying by you on the right (which is dangerous) flipping you the bird.
I usually get in front then slow down to the speed limit just to wake up the brain dead
January 10th, 2013 at 6:33 am
Personally I wish they would pull more people over for going UNDER the speed limit by 10mph’s…
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Yep, I see it all the time. And ALWAYS, ALWAYS it’s some idiot whose head is too heavy for his shoulders and has the cell phone in his ear and his head propped against his side window. Meaandering along at least 10 car lengths behind the guy in front of him. I swear…most people can’t drive and talk on the phone at the same time. Just ban phones entirely I say.
January 10th, 2013 at 6:34 am
MikeG knows what he is talking about
January 10th, 2013 at 6:34 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 6:29 am
Did MikieG just call me a woman?
LOL
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Ha! No!
January 10th, 2013 at 6:35 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 6:29 am
Did MikieG just call me a woman?
LOL
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not just a woman, a 90 year old woman driving a 2000 Camry. SMH
January 10th, 2013 at 6:36 am
Plunketthead Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 6:32 am
Theres a travel lane and a passing lane. Only you people cruise 3 MPH over the speed limit in the passing lane obliviopus to all the cars zooming up on your rear end, then flying by you on the right (which is dangerous) flipping you the bird.
I usually get in front then slow down to the speed limit just to wake up the brain dead
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Yep, Drives me insane!
January 10th, 2013 at 6:36 am
Plunketthead Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 6:32 am
Theres a travel lane and a passing lane. Only you people cruise 3 MPH over the speed limit in the passing lane obliviopus to all the cars zooming up on your rear end, then flying by you on the right (which is dangerous) flipping you the bird.
I usually get in front then slow down to the speed limit just to wake up the brain dead
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
I will teach you a lesson by doing the same thing as you, which I think is wrong?!?!
Keep up the good work.
January 10th, 2013 at 6:36 am
AM crew is awesome
January 10th, 2013 at 6:37 am
Go Lobo’s!!!!
January 10th, 2013 at 6:37 am
POST-264,AGREED.
January 10th, 2013 at 6:38 am
Once got nailed for doing 125 MPH on my bike…When the RCMP (Canadian state troopers) officer finally caught up to me he said, “That was actually kind of fun”…I said, “Fun enough to let me off” to which he said “No”…I just said “Oh well” and took the ticket…Do the crime, do the time.
January 10th, 2013 at 6:39 am
If you got a clear view southeast go look at the moonrise.
January 10th, 2013 at 6:40 am
POST-267,WITH PART OF HER COAT HANGING OUT OF THE BOTTOM OF THE DOOR..
January 10th, 2013 at 6:40 am
CanuckRaider Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 6:38 am
Once got nailed for doing 125 MPH on my bike…When the RCMP (Canadian state troopers) officer finally caught up to me he said, “That was actually kind of fun”…I said, “Fun enough to let me off” to which he said “No”…I just said “Oh well” and took the ticket…Do the crime, do the time.
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Good story, Canuck Raider
Back to McClain – you’d think brain-dead wouldve MOVED out of Decatur, since he had prior issues….
If “they’re out to get you” change your circumstance, dummy. You had enough raider bonus money.
January 10th, 2013 at 6:41 am
Raider O Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 6:36 am
Plunketthead Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 6:32 am
Theres a travel lane and a passing lane. Only you people cruise 3 MPH over the speed limit in the passing lane obliviopus to all the cars zooming up on your rear end, then flying by you on the right (which is dangerous) flipping you the bird.
I usually get in front then slow down to the speed limit just to wake up the brain dead
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
I will teach you a lesson by doing the same thing as you, which I think is wrong?!?!
Keep up the good work.
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Awwww come on..its what we call a teachable moment on the road…
Seriously though, people need to realize they aren’t the ONLY car on the road and have a little empathy for the other drivers out there. Pick your eyes up and anticipate what the hell is going on around you, if people did that it would save alot of lives. It’s seriously VERY dangerous out there.
January 10th, 2013 at 6:43 am
post 275
lol
January 10th, 2013 at 6:43 am
Hwnrdr Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 6:08 am
guest123 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 6:03 am
Alabama is a place that time forgot. Old Southern Baptist predominates. A lot of good traditions but still see a lot of segegation. The median income is low, so if you can get a salary along the national average at your education/experience level, you can live like a king there. A middle salary can afford a plantation there just about, it’s great. I recommend anyone looking to upgrade to consider Alabama.
Agreed, or anywhere in the midwest…however my friends father told me once to be careful, because if you ever want to come back west, it will be hard to do!
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Just dont sign the ticket “Fu*k ya’ll”
hilarious story….
January 10th, 2013 at 6:44 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 6:40 am
POST-267,WITH PART OF HER COAT HANGING OUT OF THE BOTTOM OF THE DOOR..
LOL…so true…the funniest is when the cop pulls one over for seat belt violation…because the seat belt is stuck and hanging out of the door…HAHAHA!
January 10th, 2013 at 6:48 am
MikieG Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 6:41 am
Raider O Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 6:36 am
Plunketthead Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 6:32 am
Theres a travel lane and a passing lane. Only you people cruise 3 MPH over the speed limit in the passing lane obliviopus to all the cars zooming up on your rear end, then flying by you on the right (which is dangerous) flipping you the bird.
I usually get in front then slow down to the speed limit just to wake up the brain dead
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
I will teach you a lesson by doing the same thing as you, which I think is wrong?!?!
Keep up the good work.
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Awwww come on..its what we call a teachable moment on the road…
Seriously though, people need to realize they aren’t the ONLY car on the road and have a little empathy for the other drivers out there. Pick your eyes up and anticipate what the hell is going on around you, if people did that it would save alot of lives. It’s seriously VERY dangerous out there.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Not a fan of vigilante justice.
January 10th, 2013 at 6:48 am
Good Morning Raider Nation!!! It’s a Freezing Awesome day to be a Raider Fan, isn’t it?
January 10th, 2013 at 6:49 am
A classic example of how Mr Davis had simply lost touch with how degenerative some college “student athletes” have become.
Can you imagine how divisive McClain could be in private with other players IF HE WAS BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE BY COACHES?
What a jackhole!
The big difference now is that even with the rookie cap, a high first round pick becomes a very wealthy man overnight.
That did not happen back in the 60’s 70’s and 80’s.
As a result rookies back in those days had to work to make money. Period.
Also, back in the day, if McClain pulled that kind of attitude with the Raiders, Art or Gene would have jacked him up a bit.
January 10th, 2013 at 6:49 am
Good morning Llama man.
January 10th, 2013 at 6:49 am
249.Raider O Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 6:17 am
We have it here in NY too, on major highways. It is a revenue generator, and that is a police officers job!
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
I thought a police officers job is to protect and serve the community.
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It is. However, revenue generation is chief among their duties now. I have a number of friends that work in various positions in the justice system and they are very up front about the courts being revenue generators for the government nowadays. Once a person gets into the system it’s very difficult to get out, and they all have stories about otherwise good people that have made a mistake or two in their lives and are now basically financial prisoners. The poor are particularly vulnerable. It’s a real shame.
January 10th, 2013 at 6:52 am
That is true, Charlie! Anyone on that team would have jacked him up!
January 10th, 2013 at 6:52 am
Good Morning Raider Nation!!! It’s a Freezing Awesome day to be a Raider Fan, isn’t it?
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it is.
How is the skyline in your neck of the woods this fine morning?
January 10th, 2013 at 6:56 am
MikieG Says:
Seriously though, people need to realize they aren’t the ONLY car on the road and have a little empathy for the other drivers out there. Pick your eyes up and anticipate what the hell is going on around you, if people did that it would save alot of lives. It’s seriously VERY dangerous out there.
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I hate driving with people that assume everybody else knows what their doing, and you can tell other drivers assume that too. I always assume everyone is a frickin moron driving for the first time, which is the opposite of my approach to people in general. Drive defensively is a good slogan.
January 10th, 2013 at 6:59 am
What the heck is wrong with the youth of today? It’s not just McClain, it’s more widespread than that. Very young guys new to the league instead of being wide-eyed, bushy tailed and respectful of the veterans come in to the leauge with an attitude of entitlement. They all think the world owes them something, the lifestyle the perks are taken for granted. Old school Raiders would have taken to a McClain type in the locker room and fixed the situation before it ever got this far. But that’s an era that will never come back.
January 10th, 2013 at 7:02 am
Unfortunately Guest! And too bad too…sometimes!
January 10th, 2013 at 7:02 am
guest123 Says:
How is the skyline in your neck of the woods this fine morning?
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Clear, no clouds so no awesome sunrise. But about 6:20 the moon was just rising over the Sierras, real slim crescent bottom left and you could see the whole ring against that pale dawn sky. So I got an awesome moonrise instead of an awesome sunrise.
January 10th, 2013 at 7:04 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 5:38 am
DJ Johnny Says:
January 9th, 2013 at 10:26 pm
We were just as bad as everyone said we would be. I remember seeing Gannon predict us for last place in the west and rank us # 25 in the power rankings and was thinking he was just being a hater. It turns out he was right. In fact we were worse than that.
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Hey, not so fast Johnny.
We finished 3rd in the divison!!!!!
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True. I don’t think anyone expected the Cheifs to only win just 2 games though.
So many times we’ve finished way worse than predicted. I think we’re due a season where we surprise everybody by being alot better than they think.
Has that ever happened?
January 10th, 2013 at 7:06 am
Old school Raiders would have taken to a McClain type in the locker room and fixed the situation before it ever got this far.
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And Old School McClain types would have respected the situation “fixing” afterwards, and got on track.
New School McClain types would threaten to shoot his teammates if they tried to “fix” the situation.
January 10th, 2013 at 7:06 am
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 7:02 am
guest123 Says:
How is the skyline in your neck of the woods this fine morning?
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Clear, no clouds so no awesome sunrise. But about 6:20 the moon was just rising over the Sierras, real slim crescent bottom left and you could see the whole ring against that pale dawn sky. So I got an awesome moonrise instead of an awesome sunrise.
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Just for a change it’s raining and foggy here.
January 10th, 2013 at 7:08 am
neilb Says:
Just for a change it’s raining and foggy here.
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London fog gets around, huh?
January 10th, 2013 at 7:08 am
Anyone out there using windows 8?
Know any good football apps I can get?
January 10th, 2013 at 7:08 am
7 HC vacancies , Hue Jackson no where to be found on anyones radar.Hmm.
January 10th, 2013 at 7:09 am
I hope during this offseason analysis Reggie and DA sit down and ask themselves “What did Miles Burris do well at in college?” And then conclude “It seems he really excelled at rushing the QB from the edge and disrupting plays in the backfield. Maybe we should have him do what he’s really good at this yr.”
January 10th, 2013 at 7:09 am
London fog gets around, huh?
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All the way to the north-east!
January 10th, 2013 at 7:10 am
Guest123 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 6:59 am
What the heck is wrong with the youth of today? It’s not just McClain, it’s more widespread than that. Very young guys new to the league instead of being wide-eyed, bushy tailed and respectful of the veterans come in to the leauge with an attitude of entitlement. They all think the world owes them something, the lifestyle the perks are taken for granted. Old school Raiders would have taken to a McClain type in the locker room and fixed the situation before it ever got this far. But that’s an era that will never come back.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
You can blame the kids or the parents and community that accepts/ tolerates / encourages bad behavior.
Look at all that BS on TV and other media devices.
Athletes and entertainers are more admired/ respected than Teachers.
Some parents (Lazy bastards) want these entertainers to be role models for their kids, because they are too lazy and ignorant to be good role models for their own kids.
January 10th, 2013 at 7:12 am
Did Miles Burris tackle well in college?
Because he sure the hell didn’t the second half of last season.
That was painful to watch.
January 10th, 2013 at 7:12 am
I see that the Bills already hired a new OC.
I wonder if Reg and DA already have someone in mind and just waiting till the playoffs are over to announce it.
Or…they need to get busy.
I’d like to trust they are really working on this.
We don’t wanna be the last ones to hire and be scraping the bottom of the barrell or settling for someone in a panic move.
January 10th, 2013 at 7:13 am
O, I have to agree with you there…one reason I can’t stand some Disney shows because they make it seem alright to act the way that they do on tv…I tell you, if we acted that way back in the day, we’ll be waking up wondering what happened! (Ok, not so much but you get what I mean)
January 10th, 2013 at 7:14 am
Clouding up over the Sierras, Reno too, I assume. Somebody here’s in Reno.
January 10th, 2013 at 7:16 am
I disagree I think we can lure Free agents we will have money and its the new Raiders not the old! Driver is on my Radar if not just due to DHB being our most seasoned WR! We will be able to get players this year also due to the lack of increase in the Salary Cap! This is said to have teams unable to sign some free agents!
January 10th, 2013 at 7:16 am
Edward Teach Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 6:49 am
249.Raider O Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 6:17 am
We have it here in NY too, on major highways. It is a revenue generator, and that is a police officers job!
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
I thought a police officers job is to protect and serve the community.
********************************************************
It is. However, revenue generation is chief among their duties now. I have a number of friends that work in various positions in the justice system and they are very up front about the courts being revenue generators for the government nowadays. Once a person gets into the system it’s very difficult to get out, and they all have stories about otherwise good people that have made a mistake or two in their lives and are now basically financial prisoners. The poor are particularly vulnerable. It’s a real shame.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
That’s why they don’t want to legalize marijuana, and they rather build more prisons than colleges in the last decade.
Why do we allow/ tolerate that kind of BS?
January 10th, 2013 at 7:17 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 7:12 am
Did Miles Burris tackle well in college?
Because he sure the hell didn’t the second half of last season.
That was painful to watch.
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I don’t know. I do know all the highlights out there show him rushing the passer and getting guys in the backfield. That was his deal.
I notice he doesn’t wrap up. He had a clear shot at Cam Newton in that game on one play and just bounced right off him without trying to wrap up with his arms.
I was like “C’mon man”.
January 10th, 2013 at 7:18 am
I won’t let my 11 yo or 9 yo daughters watch any disney shows. It’s all a bunch of mindless laughtracks and teeny girls screaming every 10 seconds and portray parents as mindless rubes that kids can lie to and they nod their heads and walk off the set. On those shows, kids don’t show any respect to parents, get into all sorts of trouble, but happily figure it all out on thier own before the half hour is up. It’s dangerous to let kids think that’s the way life works. Hardly anything on the tube I will let my kids watch anymore. All of it is garbage.
January 10th, 2013 at 7:20 am
OH GOD…. give my teams some leadership
January 10th, 2013 at 7:21 am
Whatever happened to “happy days” and “laverne & shirley” type shows. Where mom & pa are addressed as Mr C and Mrs C? SMH
January 10th, 2013 at 7:22 am
Now its time to say goodbye…
LOL, what happened to those days…
Boom boom boom boom boom….goodnight sweetheart well, its time to go!
I think they should bring back School House Rock!
January 10th, 2013 at 7:23 am
guest123 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 7:21 am
Whatever happened to “happy days” and “laverne & shirley” type shows. Where mom & pa are addressed as Mr C and Mrs C? SMH
And that was from the rebel of the show…
January 10th, 2013 at 7:23 am
I am thrilled Knapp is gone , but I doubt we will see a ex head coach hired as our OC. DA will now be on the hot seat and he wont what to hire an OC that puts him in a similar position cable was when Al hired Hue jack.
i think Al saunders will be the next OC or a coach who is a QB coach or OL line coach who is looking for a promotion regardless of the uncertainty that DA will still be coaching and probably on the hot seat for 2013
January 10th, 2013 at 7:24 am
I hope we get greg jennings. But i think reggie will go cheap again this yr.
January 10th, 2013 at 7:25 am
My kids love School House Rock! Pull it up on You-tube and it brings back old memories.
January 10th, 2013 at 7:26 am
It’s a cert we’re going to be raiding the packers as soon as the seasons over.
January 10th, 2013 at 7:26 am
guest123 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 7:25 am
My kids love School House Rock! Pull it up on You-tube and it brings back old memories.
I bought the dvd years ago…still love it!
January 10th, 2013 at 7:28 am
School House Rock? Must have missed that one or it never made it over the pond.
January 10th, 2013 at 7:29 am
When you copy and paste, why does the person’s name all of a sudden become lower cased?
January 10th, 2013 at 7:30 am
neilb Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 7:28 am
School House Rock? Must have missed that one or it never made it over the pond.
Years ago….back in the 70’s! Used to be fillers at the end of the cartoons on Saturday morning!
January 10th, 2013 at 7:30 am
Guest and Hwnrdr,
KPBS
AP
Discovery
Good shows for young kids IMO (Wonder pets & pound puppies on Nick JR)
January 10th, 2013 at 7:30 am
Look it up on you tube Neilb. Good stuff for kids!
January 10th, 2013 at 7:30 am
Time to go.
Have a great Thursday everyone.
January 10th, 2013 at 7:31 am
I will do Guest123!
January 10th, 2013 at 7:32 am
Memo to all Raider check cashers- (explative ya’ll)
January 10th, 2013 at 7:34 am
Raider O,
Nick Jr and Disney Jr are alright. I’m getting sick of Disney Jr as they keep pimping Sophia the first every 10 minutes. PBS has some good shows like Word Girl and Super Why. But it’s hard to ask 11 yo’s to continue watch preschool programming. Eventually they want something more mature. But there’s no gradual programming. Even Phineas & Pherb is objectionable to me as the loony bad scientist is running around in his bare skivvies at times. What can you do?
January 10th, 2013 at 7:35 am
guest123 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 7:34 am
Raider O,
Nick Jr and Disney Jr are alright. I’m getting sick of Disney Jr as they keep pimping Sophia the first every 10 minutes. PBS has some good shows like Word Girl and Super Why. But it’s hard to ask 11 yo’s to continue watch preschool programming. Eventually they want something more mature. But there’s no gradual programming. Even Phineas & Pherb is objectionable to me as the loony bad scientist is running around in his bare skivvies at times. What can you do?
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I have a 4 year old and can relate! lol
January 10th, 2013 at 7:35 am
neilb Says:
Anyone out there using windows 8?
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There’s something newer than XP?
January 10th, 2013 at 7:36 am
Miles Burris is a scrub that couldn’t make the roster of half of the playoff teams playing this weekend.
January 10th, 2013 at 7:36 am
Memo to all Raider check cashers- (explative ya’ll)
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Imagine a cancelled check gets back to Reggie and then Reggie flips it over and finds: (expletive ya’ll) on the back. Classic.
January 10th, 2013 at 7:37 am
Maybe he has legally changed his name to dumbazz motherfu&*er and that’s exactly what he signed. Kinda like Prince or Madonna. Is he a relative of JaMarcus? They sure seem to be cut from the same cloth.
January 10th, 2013 at 7:38 am
hwnrdr Says:
When you copy and paste, why does the person’s name all of a sudden become lower cased?
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Curious, isn’t it?
January 10th, 2013 at 7:39 am
I am never ever apologizing for bringing up the nba after reading all of your kids talk
January 10th, 2013 at 7:39 am
He will beat this charge….no intent to deceive…he knew they knew who he was and he was just fraking with them.
January 10th, 2013 at 7:41 am
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
Miles Burris is a scrub that couldn’t make the roster of half of the playoff teams playing this weekend.
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So he COULD make the roster of half the playoff teams playing this weekend? I’ll take it!
January 10th, 2013 at 7:44 am
334. I agree. But why is he such a dumb rebel?
January 10th, 2013 at 7:45 am
neilb Says:
It’s a cert we’re going to be raiding the packers as soon as the seasons over.
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A cert? Thought Neilb was a displaced yank, guess he is a limey. Or he’s getting assimilated.
January 10th, 2013 at 7:45 am
Why the f&*k would Greg Jennings wanna come here??? Oh unless we way overpay him maybe. I can’t imagine any quality NFL guy wanting to play with CP. A guy with no heart, no balls, no fire and desire to win. While RoMac may sign his checks ****ya’ll CP signs his checks with the same autopen that Barry signed the for the fiscal cliff. I can think of at least 29 other starting QB’s I would rather have than CP. So those of you who think we will EVER have a winning record with CP as the starting QB place your bets right here. Only reason why he even got to 8-8 in ‘11 was due to Jason giving him a head start.
January 10th, 2013 at 7:46 am
guest123 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 7:36 am
Memo to all Raider check cashers- (explative ya’ll)
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Imagine a cancelled check gets back to Reggie and then Reggie flips it over and finds: (expletive ya’ll) on the back. Classic.
LOL
January 10th, 2013 at 7:47 am
We always have to overpay
January 10th, 2013 at 7:50 am
I don’t think Greg Jennnings will come here…not even sure if Donald Driver will come here…but you will never know! Jennings and Driver already have a SB ring…Jennings will probably want to stay and get more, while Driver is at the end of his career and MAY want to prove he has one more year left! So he may be an option as a good #1 receiver, if anything just to teach the youngans!
January 10th, 2013 at 7:51 am
I think Greg Jennings will take his talents to South Beach.
January 10th, 2013 at 7:56 am
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 7:35 am
guest123 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 7:34 am
Raider O,
Nick Jr and Disney Jr are alright. I’m getting sick of Disney Jr as they keep pimping Sophia the first every 10 minutes. PBS has some good shows like Word Girl and Super Why. But it’s hard to ask 11 yo’s to continue watch preschool programming. Eventually they want something more mature. But there’s no gradual programming. Even Phineas & Pherb is objectionable to me as the loony bad scientist is running around in his bare skivvies at times. What can you do?
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I have a 4 year old and can relate! lol
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I have a 5 yo and she is only allowed to watch/ play games on Ipad for 1-1.5 hours/ day . No more than 10 hours/ week. She is also homeschooled.
I’m not going to allow TV/ media and the community to corrupt her young mind.
TV is not a babysitter!
January 10th, 2013 at 7:57 am
guest123 Says:
I think Greg Jennings will take his talents to South Beach.
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All things being equal, I’d probably pick South Beach, too. Don’t think the franchise itself is any more appealing, tho’.
January 10th, 2013 at 7:59 am
Marks hair Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 7:44 am
334. I agree. But why is he such a dumb rebel?
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Who knows? But he is what he is, and he ain’t going to change……just like Dennis Allen will not suddenly become a good HC!
January 10th, 2013 at 8:00 am
I refuse to put my kid in a school and pay 5K per year so she can learn less than home and learn bad behaviors from other kids and teachers.
We need to start paying teachers better and give them more respect to encourage young and bright students to consider teaching as a career.
January 10th, 2013 at 8:01 am
345.Dakota Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 7:59 am
Marks hair Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 7:44 am
334. I agree. But why is he such a dumb rebel?
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Who knows? But he is what he is, and he ain’t going to change……just like Dennis Allen will not suddenly become a good HC!
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He’s still working his way up to being a bad HC, baby steps.
January 10th, 2013 at 8:02 am
That’s admirable Raider O. Keep up the good work. Thumbsup! I have 4 kids aged 14 months to 11 yo, and it’s a full time job once I get home! Other my baby, kids don’t watch much TV only because they have tons of homework.
January 10th, 2013 at 8:05 am
Ok, now Mike Mularkey is gone…dismissed from Jacksonville!
January 10th, 2013 at 8:05 am
Raider O Says:
I’m not going to allow TV/ media and the community to corrupt her young mind.
She is also homeschooled.
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Educational quality is a concern, but exposure to and interaction with a broad cross section of smart/dumb, good/bad, and positive/negative influences is crucial to social development,IMO.
January 10th, 2013 at 8:08 am
Hire Mularkey in the next 5 minutes. Make it happen!
forget about Charmichael.
January 10th, 2013 at 8:11 am
Guest,
4? good luck bro, but I don’t think you need it.
I was talking to my cousin the other day, and he was angry that the school tries to keep parents involved with extra HW, activities, etc… He thinks its too much work for the parents.
Like I said, parents today want the school, community, TV, or anyone to raise their kids, and they are happy as long as they have time for themselves.
No one forced you to have kids. It’s a huge responsibility.
January 10th, 2013 at 8:14 am
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 8:05 am
Raider O Says:
I’m not going to allow TV/ media and the community to corrupt her young mind.
She is also homeschooled.
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Educational quality is a concern, but exposure to and interaction with a broad cross section of smart/dumb, good/bad, and positive/negative influences is crucial to social development,IMO.
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It is. That’s why we find her activities to interact with other kids. Me or the wife are always there to supervise. Can’t trust a stranger with your kids IMO.
January 10th, 2013 at 8:15 am
344.Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 7:57 am
guest123 Says:
I think Greg Jennings will take his talents to South Beach.
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All things being equal, I’d probably pick South Beach, too. Don’t think the franchise itself is any more appealing, tho’.
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If the Raiders moved back to LA does it change the appeal?
Hollywood. LA market?
January 10th, 2013 at 8:16 am
raising kids is a HUGE responsibility. it changes your life completely. problem is when some people who just want to continue living the same lifestyle as they had before kids come along. it’s selfish immature behavior that’s the problem usually.
January 10th, 2013 at 8:21 am
DJ Johnny Says:
If the Raiders moved back to LA does it change the appeal?
Hollywood. LA market?
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To me, not in the slightest. Grew up in Pasadena. But yeah, probably. Some think that was the beginning of the fall for the Raiders, despite their good start. I disagree. And San Fran/ Bay area isn’t exactly Podunk.
January 10th, 2013 at 8:21 am
Guest,
Well said bro. I agree. That’s why I don’t think the kids deserve all the blame.
January 10th, 2013 at 8:24 am
Btw, I hope you people understand that we are not off topic talking about kids and their issues. There is a reason why McClain behaved this way, and why Dez Bryant slapped his mother.
Bad parenting among other things.
January 10th, 2013 at 8:24 am
It’s a fair question whether or not moving to Hollywood would increase the appeal of signing a FA deal with the Raiders. I think it would. As much as I would like the Raiders to stay in Oakland, there is too much appeal for secondary careers and other avenues of revenue in that huge television market. And I think it’s only a matter of time till Mark moves down there.
January 10th, 2013 at 8:26 am
DKnight007 Says:
January 9th, 2013 at 10:11 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 9th, 2013 at 5:19 pm
Romacs story is a cautionary tale.
law enforcment history in amerikkka goes back to slave catchers. Slave catchers were the first organized law enforcement groups. look up the history of the texas rangers if you dont believe it.
Now im really gone
Peace
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True!
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uh, first of all, who gives a fu@k. this has nothing to do with slaves. green beanie practically begged the police to arrest him. he’s a multi-millionaire, not a slave. get with the fu@king times.
secondly, police STARTED as slave-catchers? really? that’s ur story? u think there was no such thing as law enforcement in this country until the texas rangers went looking for escaped slaves? before that, there was no police?
u simply can’t be this stupid.
January 10th, 2013 at 8:28 am
Raider O Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 8:24 am
Btw, I hope you people understand that we are not off topic talking about kids and their issues. There is a reason why McClain behaved this way, and why Dez Bryant slapped his mother.
Bad parenting among other things.
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there are plenty of black and white millionaires and non-millionaires who don’t act this way. do u act this way with cops? green beanie is a fu@king moron and the quicker he’s out of the raiders organization, the better.
January 10th, 2013 at 8:29 am
Trestman’s name gathers NFL steam
VIA PFT
Marc Trestman hasn’t coached at the NFL level since 2004. And yet he now finds himself under consideration for multiple NFL head-coaching jobs.
It’s not a complete shock. Last year, the Colts considered both Trestman and his Montreal Alouettes’ boss, G.M. Jim Popp, for the top two vacancies in the Indy organization. This year, the Browns and the Bears are giving Trestman a look-see. (Popp also is on the Jets’ G.M. radar.)
The 57-year-old lawyer-turned-coach has 17 seasons of NFL experience as an assistant, serving as offensive coordinator with the Browns, 49ers, Cardinals, and Raiders. Most recently, Trestman coached the Dolphins’ quarterbacks in 2004.
Trestman has coached in Montreal since 2008, winning a pair of Grey Cups and the CFL’s coach of the year award in 2009. He also has been endorsed by veteran NFL coaches Marv Levy and Bud Grant.
“He’s made all the stops and coached in almost every capacity,” Grant, who coached in the CFL and the NFL, tells the Cleveland Plain Dealer. “We try to make football more complicated than it really is. Coaching is coaching whether it’s here or in Canada. The same principles apply.”
Whoever hires Trestman eventually may have to tackle the Tim Tebow question. Trestman tutored the Jets’ outgoing quarterback-of-all-trades before the 2010 draft, and Trestman’s team currently holds CFL squatting rights on Tebow.
Before that issue even becomes relevant, Trestman needs to get an NFL job. And while he may indeed be the best choice for one of the current vacancies, it’s odd that he continues to draw interest as an NFL head coach but little or no sniffs as a candidate to once again be an NFL offensive coordinator.
January 10th, 2013 at 8:30 am
Raider O Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 8:24 am
Btw, I hope you people understand that we are not off topic talking about kids and their issues. There is a reason why McClain behaved this way, and why Dez Bryant slapped his mother.
Bad parenting among other things.
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Pathologies of the Ghetto.
January 10th, 2013 at 8:30 am
We talked about Mike Mularkey a couple of days ago.
He’s done a pretty good job as and OC, back in his Pittsburgh days he learned from Kevin Gilbride before replacing him and was known for being a creative guy, then he bombed in Miami under Nick Saban but came back as Atlanta’s OC from 2008 to 2011 and fielded a very good offense every year.
This guy would be an excellent hire for DA.
January 10th, 2013 at 8:30 am
Dakota Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 7:39 am
He will beat this charge….no intent to deceive…he knew they knew who he was and he was just fraking with them.
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except u simply don’t get to do that. cops have other things to do than play games with some idiot. sign the fu@king ticket correctly or get arrested. simple stuff. green beanie deserved it.
January 10th, 2013 at 8:31 am
as an
January 10th, 2013 at 8:32 am
This guy would be an excellent hire for DA.
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concur Marley
January 10th, 2013 at 8:32 am
guest123 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 8:16 am
raising kids is a HUGE responsibility. it changes your life completely. problem is when some people who just want to continue living the same lifestyle as they had before kids come along. it’s selfish immature behavior that’s the problem usually.
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Good Morning Raider faithful,
Great points Guest, I have a 16 month old girl and my life has completely changed. Raising your kid should become your number one priority. If you don’t sacrifice and give up your time, money and some of your previous habits your not being a good parent. Your child deserves a good foundation.
January 10th, 2013 at 8:33 am
Kids change your life. The first 6 months are hard, but then things get better. More sleep. More personal time. Easier to find a sitter.
We have 3 boys, the youngest two are 3 years old and 3 months old respectively.
I am actually off work right now for 2 weeks to keep the newborn home a little longer before he has to go to daycare. My wife had to go back to work, so it is on me for a little while now. After watching him all day, I then go into work for several hours in the evening. It is a grind, but it is worth it.
Our kids are amazing and bring such joy to our lives. Yes, we dream about them being older so we can get out and do more traveling and stuff like that, but really, there is no more magical time than when you child is about 3 years old and learning so much, discovering wonderful things.
I enjoy telling my 3 year old stories that incorporate learning….for instance last night I told him a story about a guy named Edmund Hillary climbing Mt. Everest to rescue his little brother from a dragon that lived on top of the mountain…..the other night I told him a story about a young man named Isaac Newton who discovered gravity while sitting under an apple tree….now he is asking questions about Mt. Everest and about gravity. He knows that there is no gravity in outer space as I showed him a video of people on the space station drinking floating water….he also knows where all of the planets are in relation to the sun as he and I often get into an imaginary rocket ship and travel the universe.
Some people simply are too self-centered to have kids, but if you have them they bring a lot to your life.
January 10th, 2013 at 8:37 am
Chucky B is now the DC of USF!
Go Chucky B!
January 10th, 2013 at 8:37 am
“….kids are amazing and bring such joy to our lives….”
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POTD
January 10th, 2013 at 8:38 am
No knuckleheads.
January 10th, 2013 at 8:39 am
370.Dakota Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 8:37 am
Chucky B is now the DC of USF!
Go Chucky B!
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Master of the Prevent D
January 10th, 2013 at 8:39 am
Chucky B is now the DC of USF!
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Yep, the sports guys on the local radio are talking about it. Chucky B in my backyard all of a sudden. I think he replaces the dude who felt homesick for his old job at Plant High School. Talk about a couple of degrees of separation between HS football and the pros!
January 10th, 2013 at 8:40 am
Dakota Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 8:33 am
Kids change your life. The first 6 months are hard, but then things get better. More sleep. More personal time. Easier to find a sitter.
We have 3 boys, the youngest two are 3 years old and 3 months old respectively.
I am actually off work right now for 2 weeks to keep the newborn home a little longer before he has to go to daycare. My wife had to go back to work, so it is on me for a little while now. After watching him all day, I then go into work for several hours in the evening. It is a grind, but it is worth it.
Our kids are amazing and bring such joy to our lives. Yes, we dream about them being older so we can get out and do more traveling and stuff like that, but really, there is no more magical time than when you child is about 3 years old and learning so much, discovering wonderful things.
I enjoy telling my 3 year old stories that incorporate learning….for instance last night I told him a story about a guy named Edmund Hillary climbing Mt. Everest to rescue his little brother from a dragon that lived on top of the mountain…..the other night I told him a story about a young man named Isaac Newton who discovered gravity while sitting under an apple tree….now he is asking questions about Mt. Everest and about gravity. He knows that there is no gravity in outer space as I showed him a video of people on the space station drinking floating water….he also knows where all of the planets are in relation to the sun as he and I often get into an imaginary rocket ship and travel the universe.
Some people simply are too self-centered to have kids, but if you have them they bring a lot to your life.
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Awesome post Dakota.
January 10th, 2013 at 8:44 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 5:55 am
You guys ready for the ultimate irony?
Last night driving home from El Paso, I got pulled over for “traveling in the left lane for too long and not passing”.
Yes, apparently in New Mexico, the fast lane is only for passing, so going a few miles over the speed limit like I was is illegal!!!
$71 fine.
F U Police!!!!!!
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JFB My Man.
I really like you and most of what you post.
Takes a big man to admit when he is wrong LMAO!!!
I would have let you off with a warning, unless you had to much TINT on your windshield
F THE Po PO
January 10th, 2013 at 8:44 am
trestman is going to be the next harbaugh…whoever gets him will contend next year….meanwhile we still have opie on a gut feeling….#reggiefail
January 10th, 2013 at 8:45 am
My little girl always points at the TV, kinda jumps and says Ooohhggh! when watching the Raiders. LOL, I hope we become a great team again before she can understand how bad we’ve been.
January 10th, 2013 at 8:46 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 5:55 am
You guys ready for the ultimate irony?
Last night driving home from El Paso, I got pulled over for “traveling in the left lane for too long and not passing”.
Yes, apparently in New Mexico, the fast lane is only for passing, so going a few miles over the speed limit like I was is illegal!!!
$71 fine.
F U Police!!!!!!
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He probably heard you liked Rolando McClain and thought Greg Knapp was a quality hire as OC for the Raiders…..consider yourself lucky that he didn’t throw you in the drunk tank!
January 10th, 2013 at 8:47 am
KoolKell Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 8:30 am
Raider O Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 8:24 am
Btw, I hope you people understand that we are not off topic talking about kids and their issues. There is a reason why McClain behaved this way, and why Dez Bryant slapped his mother.
Bad parenting among other things.
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Pathologies of the Ghetto.
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KK
I know people who have money, live in nice areas, but because of their ignorance and selfishness their kids are a mess.
Lack of education & selfishness is the main problem with these parents IMO regardless of where they live.
January 10th, 2013 at 8:47 am
I enjoy telling my 5 year old stories of dread and doom. Like the one about Great Warrior King who in his old age died and left his empire to his imbicile son, Prince Mark, who hired a simple Black Smith to be general of his kingdom’s army, who was tricked by wicked witch of the Rockies to allow him to lead the armies to defeat after horrible defeat, until the towns people grew weary and hopeless till the point of revolt! And slay the Witch with a barrage of glass bottles from the Colesium and reclaiming their nation
January 10th, 2013 at 8:49 am
My 11 yo girl asks me while I’m watching the game…
“daddy, why do keep liking the Oakland Raiders? they always lose. why don’t you root for the hometown bucs?”
I get this look on my face (let’s just say that I’m not amused) and she gets nervous, “sorry…sorry dad…” she says, quickly exiting the room.
January 10th, 2013 at 8:50 am
Dakota Says:
….now he is asking questions about Mt. Everest and about gravity. He knows that there is no gravity in outer space as I showed him a video of people on the space station drinking floating water….he also knows where all of the planets are in relation to the sun as he and I often get into an imaginary rocket ship and travel the universe.
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He’s ahead of at least ninety percent of the population who have no concept of the scale and relationships of our planet and moon to the solar system and its to the galaxy,etc. You might want to wait a couple years before event horizons and string theory, tho’. After you tell him you had to fib a little and explain microgravity and orbital decay. Hah. Not that I have any interest in this stuff.
January 10th, 2013 at 8:50 am
KK,
I met some people from the ghetto who were raised by their grandparents because their parents are in jail or on drugs, and they are well behaved and educated.
January 10th, 2013 at 8:50 am
I think we should forget about Luke Joeckel, consensus seems to be he’s going to be the best player available and the 1st pick.
“Those teams near the top of the selection order in the 2013 NFL draft in need of offensive line help got a big boost when it was announced that Texas A&M left tackle Luke Joeckel will make himself eligible for the upcoming draft.
The 6-foot-6, 310-pound Joeckel is NFLDraftScout’s number-one draft prospect, and may very well be the best player in the draft when all is said and done.
Joeckel has the kind of excellent pass-blocking technique that made USC’s Matt Kalil attractive as the highest-picked offensive lineman in 2012 (selected fourth overall by the Minnesota Vikings), but he’s also a bit nastier in the run game.
As the primary protector for two mobile quarterbacks in Ryan Tannehill and Johnny Manziel, Joeckel is also asked to run-block with authority and sustain blocks longer than some other left tackles, and he does these things with great authority.
Coming out of a low stance, Joeckel establishes leverage on potential pass-rushers, and his best and most consistent trait might be his ability to set the edge on running plays.
He’s very good at re-establishing position after taking a first blow from a defender, and he’ll often keep his blocks going past the normal expiration point.
Joeckel is physical and forceful when firing out to run-block, and he has the lateral agility to pin inside and take out a defensive tackle. He would work well in a zone system, as he has the second-level quickness to get upfield and deal with linebackers. He’ll also get mobile in a big hurry to block on screen passes.
The 2012 Outland Trophy winner was the pointman in an offense that was dynamic enough to allow Manziel to become the first freshman ever to win the Heisman Trophy.”
January 10th, 2013 at 8:52 am
383.Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 8:50 am
Dakota Says:
….now he is asking questions about Mt. Everest and about gravity. He knows that there is no gravity in outer space as I showed him a video of people on the space station drinking floating water….he also knows where all of the planets are in relation to the sun as he and I often get into an imaginary rocket ship and travel the universe.
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He’s ahead of at least ninety percent of the population who have no concept of the scale and relationships of our planet and moon to the solar system and its to the galaxy,etc. You might want to wait a couple years before event horizons and string theory, tho’. After you tell him you had to fib a little and explain microgravity and orbital decay. Hah. Not that I have any interest in this stuff.
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Also tell him about the story of the Solar System not allowing Pluto to play in any of the planetary games.
January 10th, 2013 at 8:52 am
Hello Star-Damontre.
January 10th, 2013 at 8:52 am
The_Judge37 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 8:47 am
I enjoy telling my 5 year old stories of dread and doom. Like the one about Great Warrior King who in his old age died and left his empire to his imbicile son, Prince Mark, who hired a simple Black Smith to be general of his kingdom’s army, who was tricked by wicked witch of the Rockies to allow him to lead the armies to defeat after horrible defeat, until the towns people grew weary and hopeless till the point of revolt! And slay the Witch with a barrage of glass bottles from the Colesium and reclaiming their nation
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LOL
You are becoming one of my favorite posters. I enjoy your sense of humor.
January 10th, 2013 at 8:53 am
I dont’ know anything about this Joeckel Guy, Does he have T-Rex arms like Robert Gallery?
January 10th, 2013 at 8:53 am
Enough about kids, I don’t have any so I can’t relate!.
January 10th, 2013 at 8:53 am
Judge, not bad. Is it all dread and gloom or is there happy ending? I know, you’ve got alternate endings.
January 10th, 2013 at 8:54 am
388. Thanks. The Raiders have only taken my hope, not my sense of humor.
January 10th, 2013 at 8:55 am
391.Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 8:53 am
Judge, not bad. Is it all dread and gloom or is there happy ending? I know, you’ve got alternate endings.
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We’ll see, unfortunatley we’re only out of the 1st act.
January 10th, 2013 at 8:55 am
Judge.
I don’t know about his arms, probably have to wait until the combine to get accurate measurements on every guy.
I wanna know Star, Damontre and Werner’s true size and numbers.
January 10th, 2013 at 8:55 am
KoolKell Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 8:30 am
Raider O Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 8:24 am
Btw, I hope you people understand that we are not off topic talking about kids and their issues. There is a reason why McClain behaved this way, and why Dez Bryant slapped his mother.
Bad parenting among other things.
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Pathologies of the Ghetto.
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I doubt Lindsay Lohan and Paris Hilton lived in the ghetto.
January 10th, 2013 at 8:56 am
Bob Marley Says:
Enough about kids, I don’t have any so I can’t relate!.
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Ever have a dog? Raising pets is a micro primer. Actually, not so micro, just the stakes are vastly different.
January 10th, 2013 at 8:57 am
Once you have kids, I will assure you that you will NEVER be able to see your life without them! Ok, last one from me!
January 10th, 2013 at 8:57 am
I’m not sold on Joeckel at #3. Would be a solid upgrade at LT, but not the impact player we could get there. High floor, low..er ceiling.
I guess maybe I’m still wary of what we got with T-rex gallery.
January 10th, 2013 at 8:58 am
Why do people go back to draft day and think i only we had selected that player… You see in order to develop players you need a combination of good scouting, good coaching, a good scheme, and good playcalling. The raiders are a bust factory cause the coaching here has sucked for more than 10 years. Draft Rodgers and let Bed&Breakfast ruin him or draft Megatron to run in Knapps POS offense. The draft is 33% of the process to develop young players…
January 10th, 2013 at 8:58 am
Raider O Says:
I doubt Lindsay Lohan and Paris Hilton lived in the ghetto.
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Left to their own devices, they’d create one.
January 10th, 2013 at 8:59 am
Once you have kids, you can’t function or do anything without conscience thought of where they are and what they are doing and with whom. That’s 24/7/365 with no break. Not even when you sleep. Ok last one from me.
January 10th, 2013 at 9:02 am
Aint that the truth Guest?
January 10th, 2013 at 9:03 am
Not taking into consideration of how their careers have played out, was anyone really that upset when we did take Russell over Calvin?
Reason i ask is because i see KC in the same situation as we were in that Draft. After a year of Culpepper and McNown, could we really have afforded not to take a QB? Why take a WR with no one to throw to him?
Obviously we know it was a bad choice, but at the time i didn’t have a problem.
January 10th, 2013 at 9:04 am
396.Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 8:56 am
Bob Marley Says:
Enough about kids, I don’t have any so I can’t relate!.
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Ever have a dog? Raising pets is a micro primer. Actually, not so micro, just the stakes are vastly different.
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I was sitting with a group of friends a few years ago and someone (that didn’t have kids) said the very same thing.
Those of us who are parents just looked at one another and smiled.
January 10th, 2013 at 9:04 am
379.Dakota Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 8:46 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 5:55 am
You guys ready for the ultimate irony?
Last night driving home from El Paso, I got pulled over for “traveling in the left lane for too long and not passing”.
Yes, apparently in New Mexico, the fast lane is only for passing, so going a few miles over the speed limit like I was is illegal!!!
$71 fine.
F U Police!!!!!!
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He probably heard you liked Rolando McClain and thought Greg Knapp was a quality hire as OC for the Raiders…..consider yourself lucky that he didn’t throw you in the drunk tank!
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January 10th, 2013 at 9:04 am
guest123 Says:
I guess maybe I’m still wary of what we got with T-rex gallery.
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And somebody’s been posting success odds of various high draft picks with OT’s being by far the surest bet. And we still got screwed. He wasn’t a bust,imo, but not worthy of the pick.
January 10th, 2013 at 9:04 am
0bomba care rearing it’s ugly head. But Dems are for the “middle & lower class” LOL
mope & change
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Count Wendy’s (WEN) as the latest fast-food restaurant to respond to 0bamacare with a reduction in worker hours. Following some other chains that have made headlines recently, a Wendy’s franchise owner in Omaha, Neb., told about 100 workers in the area that their hours would be cut in anticipation of mandates in the Affordable Care Act
January 10th, 2013 at 9:05 am
Purvisman.
I have had dogs for the better part of my 36 years, love them, but a kid I’m not ready for, thing is I know I would make a great father but for that same reason I’m aware that life as a I know it would be over and I like it just the way it is right now, maybe when I’m 40.
January 10th, 2013 at 9:06 am
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 8:50 am
Dakota Says:
….now he is asking questions about Mt. Everest and about gravity. He knows that there is no gravity in outer space as I showed him a video of people on the space station drinking floating water….he also knows where all of the planets are in relation to the sun as he and I often get into an imaginary rocket ship and travel the universe.
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He’s ahead of at least ninety percent of the population who have no concept of the scale and relationships of our planet and moon to the solar system and its to the galaxy,etc. You might want to wait a couple years before event horizons and string theory, tho’. After you tell him you had to fib a little and explain microgravity and orbital decay. Hah. Not that I have any interest in this stuff.
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The plan is to spark an interest, and then he can figure all of that out, and then teach me all the details lol.
He did tell me a few months ago that if a cow was on the Moon, it would say mooooooooooon.
January 10th, 2013 at 9:07 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 5:55 am
You guys ready for the ultimate irony?
Last night driving home from El Paso, I got pulled over for “traveling in the left lane for too long and not passing”.
Yes, apparently in New Mexico, the fast lane is only for passing, so going a few miles over the speed limit like I was is illegal!!!
$71 fine.
F U Police!!!!!!
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Wish they would do this more here, drive an hour to and from work every day on a 2 lane Hwy and pass more cars on the right than I do on the left.
January 10th, 2013 at 9:08 am
Anyone know what’s up With George Atkinson’s kids that play for Notre Dame, how are they doing? I know one is a CB.
January 10th, 2013 at 9:09 am
400.Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 8:58 am
Raider O Says:
I doubt Lindsay Lohan and Paris Hilton lived in the ghetto.
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Left to their own devices, they’d create one.
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Lol.
January 10th, 2013 at 9:12 am
edward teach Says:
Those of us who are parents just looked at one another and smiled.
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Depends on your definition of ‘micro’, ‘primer’, and ‘vastly’. I’ll stand pat, and I did raise a couple step daughters for about 12 years. Not being contentious, here.
January 10th, 2013 at 9:13 am
Once he got the money he stopped caring about achieving anything.
January 10th, 2013 at 9:14 am
Guest123.
I don’t think you have to worry about Joeckel, he’s not gonna be there.
Andy Reid is a former OL Coach, back in Philly he had a Pro Bowl LT in Tra Thomas during his best years and when he was gone Reid traded for another Pro Bowler in Jason Peters, he knows the value of the position.
They do have Branden Albert at LT but he’s a FA and drafting Joeckel would be cheaper than re-signing Albert, I don’t know their cap situation but I read somewhere it’s possible they re-sign Albert and move him to Guard, his College position.
January 10th, 2013 at 9:14 am
Niners OC Greg Roman considered favorite for the Jags HC job
January 10th, 2013 at 9:15 am
I agree Guest! Totally agree! If they leave your mind, then I question you as a parent!
January 10th, 2013 at 9:15 am
And still draft Joeckel
January 10th, 2013 at 9:16 am
I have to agree with Llama man. Getting a dog (a very needy mini pin who died 2 months ago) helped me become more tolerant and prepared for parenthood.
RIP Far’on.
Now I understand why they call it Man’s best friend.
I miss my dog.
January 10th, 2013 at 9:16 am
On Russell Wilson someone posted: ‘He waves his magic wand and pulls rabbits out of hats, but his little circus sideshow is finally coming to the end of its run.’
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The end wont be against Atlanta though, if Oakland almost beat them, no way does Seattle lose to them..
January 10th, 2013 at 9:16 am
IMO raising a child is a feeling you can only experience, nobody can really describe it. Its like asking war vets to describe the feeling of being in battle, the only way to feel it is to experience it.
January 10th, 2013 at 9:17 am
Besides, Teach, you’re one of the most level headed and thoughtful posters here, so we can’t disagree too much! Hah!
January 10th, 2013 at 9:20 am
Nothing against dog owners, but I sometimes see bumper stickers on the road:
“My dog is smarter than your honor student”
and it kinda offends me. I know they just want to attempt to be funny or clever, but who compares a canine to a human being?
January 10th, 2013 at 9:20 am
Although it seems inevitable that we’re waiting for some position coach from a playoff team, would anybody here invite Mike “Inspector Gadget” Mularky in as OC?
He likes trick plays and exploiting special talent guys much like yer boy Hue.
January 10th, 2013 at 9:21 am
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 9:16 am
IMO raising a child is a feeling you can only experience, nobody can really describe it. Its like asking war vets to describe the feeling of being in battle, the only way to feel it is to experience it.
Agreed…I laugh when people who have only nephews and nieces tell me that they know what its like…yeah right!
January 10th, 2013 at 9:21 am
guest123 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 8:59 am
Once you have kids, you can’t function or do anything without conscience thought of where they are and what they are doing and with whom. That’s 24/7/365 with no break. Not even when you sleep. Ok last one from me.
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So true, but if you are lucky and do the job the right way, the benifits are so great for you and your kids.
I have a 20 year old a couple hours away in school and working full time. I talk to him almost everyday, I am so lucky and love him so much I can’t imagine life without him in it.
I got a GREAT kid.
January 10th, 2013 at 9:22 am
SilverLining20 Says:
Although it seems inevitable that we’re waiting for some position coach from a playoff team, would anybody here invite Mike “Inspector Gadget” Mularky in as OC?
He likes trick plays and exploiting special talent guys much like yer boy Hue.
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Guest123 and myself are on board with Mularkey.
January 10th, 2013 at 9:22 am
Bob Marley Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 9:05 am
Purvisman.
I have had dogs for the better part of my 36 years, love them, but a kid I’m not ready for, thing is I know I would make a great father but for that same reason I’m aware that life as a I know it would be over and I like it just the way it is right now, maybe when I’m 40.
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I have an aunt and uncle who live near San Fran, and when they were in their thirties they said maybe when we are in our forties we will have kids, but right now life is too busy. They traveled the world, Asia, Africa and South America. Then in their forties they said they would adopt….more traveling and adventure…so no kids. Now they are in their late fifties, their parents are dead, they have no kids and they are stuck in cali because it would be too expensive to switch insurance from my uncle’s union retirement plan, so they can’t leave to be near their brothers and sisters.
They have some cool memories, and nice pictures….but now they regret not having kids.
But I also know people who are completely happy being childless, even in their later years….
Just a cautionary tale. At 50 you could always hook up with a 25 year old and have kids!
January 10th, 2013 at 9:23 am
guest123 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 9:20 am
Nothing against dog owners, but I sometimes see bumper stickers on the road:
“My dog is smarter than your honor student”
and it kinda offends me. I know they just want to attempt to be funny or clever, but who compares a canine to a human being?
Never seen that one, but I did laugh when I seen “My kid can beat up your Honor student” — Luckily, my son is a black belt (jr)
January 10th, 2013 at 9:23 am
Bob Marley Says:
I wanna know Star, Damontre and Werner’s true size and numbers.
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I know Star’s real name is Starlite! The old hippie in me likes it but the football fan isn’t so sure.
January 10th, 2013 at 9:24 am
411.The_Judge37 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 9:08 am
Anyone know what’s up With George Atkinson’s kids that play for Notre Dame, how are they doing? I know one is a CB.
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Nothing on this? With all the Teo fans here an no one watches ND Football?
January 10th, 2013 at 9:25 am
I seen Atkinson’s boy field kick offs but never seen what he can do…
January 10th, 2013 at 9:25 am
But Mularkey will have options, there are 6 HC jobs available and it likely means 6 OC positions open and maybe more if playoff teams lose their OC’s to HC jobs.
January 10th, 2013 at 9:26 am
Well it’s two of them on the same team. I think the RB is the Kick off man
January 10th, 2013 at 9:29 am
Dakota.
Thanks for the advice man.
January 10th, 2013 at 9:29 am
#428, Dakota. Sort of in the same boat. In our thirties and we’ve put it off till now to travel, etc. We’ve done that and now the fear is that the bedroom passion (which is VERY nice) will die if we have kids. It’s crunch time though, and I think we just need to go for it. We’re not getting any younger.
January 10th, 2013 at 9:29 am
Nope, count me against Mularkey. I dont like coaches that bounce around every 2 or 3 years.
January 10th, 2013 at 9:29 am
I think Mularkey never got a fair shake. His situation reminds me of Dennis Allen’s. He inherited a talent depleted roster and was told to make lemonade out of it. DA got a pass but Mularkey didn’t. Can’t blame the gunman for firing blanks when you give him no ammo!
January 10th, 2013 at 9:30 am
jesusraiderjim Says:
I got a GREAT kid.
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That rarely happens without him having a great dad.
January 10th, 2013 at 9:31 am
The_Judge37 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 9:08 am
Anyone know what’s up With George Atkinson’s kids that play for Notre Dame, how are they doing? I know one is a CB.
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GAIII plays RB and returns kickoffs….he is very fast. He will be a playmaker in the next couple of years.
January 10th, 2013 at 9:31 am
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 9:23 am
Bob Marley Says:
I wanna know Star, Damontre and Werner’s true size and numbers.
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I know Star’s real name is Starlite! The old hippie in me likes it but the football fan isn’t so sure.
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Lol!
January 10th, 2013 at 9:32 am
Top 10 Raiders – NFL Films.
#10: Marcus Allen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=la7Z7nlPWDI
Can view the rest from there.
January 10th, 2013 at 9:32 am
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 9:30 am
jesusraiderjim Says:
I got a GREAT kid.
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That rarely happens without him having a great dad.
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Agreed! My Dad says that about me and that’s what I respond with.
January 10th, 2013 at 9:33 am
Bob Marley Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 9:29 am
Dakota.
Thanks for the advice man.
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Hey, it is none of my business….just thought I would share a story.
January 10th, 2013 at 9:34 am
440.Dakota Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 9:31 am
The_Judge37 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 9:08 am
Anyone know what’s up With George Atkinson’s kids that play for Notre Dame, how are they doing? I know one is a CB.
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GAIII plays RB and returns kickoffs….he is very fast. He will be a playmaker in the next couple of years.
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Thanks, I’m more interested in the Josh, the CB. But i guess he doesn’t see the field much.
Either way, Thanks
January 10th, 2013 at 9:36 am
Dakotex.
January 10th, 2013 at 9:39 am
Bob Marley Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 9:14 am
Guest123.
I don’t think you have to worry about Joeckel, he’s not gonna be there.
Andy Reid is a former OL Coach, back in Philly he had a Pro Bowl LT in Tra Thomas during his best years and when he was gone Reid traded for another Pro Bowler in Jason Peters, he knows the value of the position.
They do have Branden Albert at LT but he’s a FA and drafting Joeckel would be cheaper than re-signing Albert, I don’t know their cap situation but I read somewhere it’s possible they re-sign Albert and move him to Guard, his College position.
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Its kind of tough to guess what he will do. Philly was kind of all over the map with drafting, and didn’t really have very many high draft picks… but he did hit paydirt drafting both McNabb and Kolb (Kolb getting trade booty.)
I can’t imagine him being happy with his QB options.
January 10th, 2013 at 9:45 am
@ The judge, I was overly upset when we took JR over Calvin. That year it was rumored that Green bay was willing to trade us Aaron Rodgers for randy moss straight up because Brett was still the man and wanted to play with randy badly but al was enamored with jamarcuses arm and wasnt passing on the chance to draft him for anything. To me Cj was a better wr prospect than jamarcus was a qb. Cj is 6′5, runs a 4.3 40, has a 40 inch vert and has some of the best hands ever, his georgia highlight tapes are maybe even more impressive than his pro tapes,…. It was obvious cj was the better player and should have been the pick. I was devastated when we passed on him because no one really talked about jamarcus until that sugar bowl game where he beat an overhyped brady quinn ND team. Lookin at the plays calvin was making I felt we could have had my grand mother back there throwing passes and he’d come down with it because his hands and coordinatios was that great, so I was willing to pass on jablubber espescially with A rod in the mix.
January 10th, 2013 at 9:45 am
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 9:04 am
guest123 Says:
I guess maybe I’m still wary of what we got with T-rex gallery.
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And somebody’s been posting success odds of various high draft picks with OT’s being by far the surest bet. And we still got screwed. He wasn’t a bust,imo, but not worthy of the pick.
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The article even counted him as a bust. I agree… he wasn’t a TOTAL bust, he prolly would have been a pro-bowl guard a few years if he had been on better teams.
But I have read two different articles on this subject by two different authors, and they both came to the exact same conclusion… LT is the surest bet in drafting. There is no close second.
Thats why I say draft LT or trade down.
January 10th, 2013 at 9:45 am
I wouldn’t say Mularkey has “bounced around”.
He has had 2 long stints as OC that were followed by promotions to Head Coach.
First in Pitt where he went on to become Buffalo’s HC for 2 years and resigned when Marv Levy was hired as GM, then he bombed along with Saban in Miami only to follow that up with another OC job in Atlanta that led to his hiring as Jax’s HC last year.
So, twice now his OC stints have led to HC jobs, which means he’s a pretty good OC.
As far as his HC gigs, he’s had some bad luck being the victim of GM changes 2 years into his Buffalo tenure and 1 year into the Jax job.
January 10th, 2013 at 9:46 am
Just wanted to chime in on the whole parenting thing..
I was the ultimate bachelor, figured it would be better to be a parent when I was older..
I’m 43 and have my first child who is 1.5yrs.. Loving every minute of it and my only regret is that I didnt do it sooner because my parents are going to be REALLY old as my son gets into his teens..
January 10th, 2013 at 9:48 am
Best part of being a parent of an 18 month old boy is every time he sees my Raider tattoo or anything Raiders, he points to it and says ‘Rrrrrr’!! (his way of pronouncing Raiders)
January 10th, 2013 at 9:50 am
You wish you never had kids.
It is ok to admit it.
January 10th, 2013 at 9:51 am
Marks hair Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 7:39 am
I am never ever apologizing for bringing up the nba after reading all of your kids talk
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Guess he didn’t enjoy the last two hours much.
January 10th, 2013 at 9:53 am
The good news is we have three massive holes on both sides of the line of scrimmage so at number three we will get the bst available at one of them.
DT, OT then DE would be my priority.
Regarding an OC;
We will most likely get a guy that had a pedigree like Gruden.
Prior to his OC job in Philly he was a “special assistant/WR coach” for Holmgren. At the time he was considered very bright but raw.
The Eagles fans out this way thought he was a buffoon similar to many on this blog who confuse coaching incompetance with a lack of talent.
Gruden had little to work with but made the most of it with the Eagles and the injuries they had to deal with especially at QB.
The OC job in Oakland would be a legitimate promotion for a guy like that and it would be worth the risk and the relo especially if he has a family.
Don’t be surprised if he comes out of New Orleans, Denver or GB.
The only experienced guy I can see at this point that might take it is Saunders.
January 10th, 2013 at 9:54 am
Without the great Al Davis this place has gone SOFT.
Just like the Raiders.
January 10th, 2013 at 9:54 am
oh no less work hours for wendys…what are we ever gonna do?
January 10th, 2013 at 9:55 am
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 9:54 am
oh no less work hours for wendys…what are we ever gonna do?
Order that Mushroom Cheddar burger…pretty good!
January 10th, 2013 at 9:57 am
The good news is we have three massive holes on both sides of the line of scrimmage…….
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you say this as if it was a good thing?
January 10th, 2013 at 9:57 am
Wow. You can’t make this schytt up.
January 10th, 2013 at 9:57 am
Cant blame us for talking about anything other than football here since our team gives us NOTHING to talk about except ‘F@ck y’all’
January 10th, 2013 at 9:58 am
Wendy’s burgers too salty for my taste.
January 10th, 2013 at 9:58 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
What up Green Party?!
OC – Murlarkey
OL – Wylie
LB – Ryan
SP – Still have no clue????
4-3
LDE – Sho-not-so nasty anymore
DT’s – Bryant and Houston
RDE – D. Moore
LBs
Burris
Wheeler
Sign Urlacher or Maluaga to man the middle
Bring back Thomas Howard to compete for a spot!!!!!
January 10th, 2013 at 9:58 am
Raider-in-PA Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 9:46 am
post #451…agreed 100%.
January 10th, 2013 at 9:59 am
Next time I get my dinner bill from the hostess, I’m signing it “expletive y’all” and see how that goes.
January 10th, 2013 at 10:00 am
Charlie,
I thought Gruden was a QB coach in GB.
January 10th, 2013 at 10:00 am
Carroll is one of a handful of coaches who boldly dipped into option concepts on offense this season, shaping his attack around Wilson’s gifts instead of trying to fit the rookie into a system he’s not suited for. It’s turned Seattle into a dangerous playoff entry, one that attack opponents in multiple ways.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000124514/article/pete-carroll-nfl-has-shifted-to-embrace-young-qbs
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This is what seperates real coaches from wanna bes’. Like DA and knapp. DA supported knapps scheme, or maybe he was doing Reggies bidding. But the point remains. Coaches who feel good about their own nutt sack build around who they got, not trying to force feed a scheme upon the players. DAs bold move dumping knapp was a good start, but he has a long ways to go. Wave of the future? The future is now. Build around your personel. No brainer. Ease the pain.
January 10th, 2013 at 10:02 am
Wendys SUCKS anyway and Papa Johns is on my shvt list.
If Carls Jr. starts with this B.S. then there wiil be a problem
January 10th, 2013 at 10:02 am
Mike Mularkey asked to be let go once he realized that he would have Teblow as his QB next season.
January 10th, 2013 at 10:03 am
Dakota Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 10:02 am
Mike Mularkey asked to be let go once he realized that he would have Teblow as his QB next season.
That was a running joke around here all morning…lol
January 10th, 2013 at 10:03 am
Whats Up Nation!
A little insight on Pete Carmichael Jr.
I really like the guy and he is a great playcaller. The thing that worries me with Carmichael is that he looks like a kid and is not a strong personality type of guy. Sean Payton was the strong personality there so they worked good in tandem. Look at what happened this year without Payton. Brees is throwing picks left and right without that strong personality there to reel him in.
Unless Reggie gets some real bonafide leaders in here, our team will tear Carmichael apart (if things are not going well). That’s my only concern with Carmichael. I think we need a strong personality OC in here.
January 10th, 2013 at 10:06 am
http://m.worldstarhiphop.com/video.php?v=wshh4D225F5ZaBz3z8rq
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Must see I’m sure this happens alot after games!!!
January 10th, 2013 at 10:07 am
Writing was on the wall with Mularkey the minute David Caldwell got hired as GM. Caldwall wanted to fire Mularkey back when they were both in Atlanta. No shocker there. Nothing to do with Tebow and I doubt he ends up in Jax, at least as a QB. Maybe as a punt protector/FB though.
January 10th, 2013 at 10:08 am
504 Raider Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 10:03 am
Whats Up Nation!
A little insight on Pete Carmichael Jr.
I really like the guy and he is a great playcaller. The thing that worries me with Carmichael is that he looks like a kid and is not a strong personality type of guy. Sean Payton was the strong personality there so they worked good in tandem. Look at what happened this year without Payton. Brees is throwing picks left and right without that strong personality there to reel him in.
Unless Reggie gets some real bonafide leaders in here, our team will tear Carmichael apart (if things are not going well). That’s my only concern with Carmichael. I think we need a strong personality OC in here.
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We had one…RM fired him!!!
January 10th, 2013 at 10:08 am
Reggie!!!
Pick up the phone and see what Channing Crowder is up 2 these days.
January 10th, 2013 at 10:10 am
Charlie,
Do you think we can afford to hire another “raw” coach? We have a raw HC and a raw DC, and I think the last thing this team needs is another raw coach to be our OC. We need a good vet on this staff to help DA as much as possible, and we can’t afford to take more chances with our offense. We did last year and the results speak for themselves. The entire team regressed.
Font forget about our raw owner and GM. We need experience.
January 10th, 2013 at 10:11 am
Her is another interesting article on our beloved police.
Please read it could happen to you
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865569894/Drug-search-shattered-tender-moment-with-deceased-wife-Vernal-man-says.html?pg=all
January 10th, 2013 at 10:11 am
(from post #65)
In determining who to hire as offensive coordinator, the Raiders should be looking for two primary attributes. First and foremost, the Raiders need a coordinator who knows how to fit an offense to the players they have, and not vice versa.
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This is so mind boggling. So mysterious. Our epic failure this season. One can only wonder if Reggie and DA did this because they desire pain and suffering, not winning. We could have avoided all the misery that surrounded this season. But we didn’t. We chose to suffer. To be humiliated and violated. Our goal was pain and languish. Maybe it was pennance. Maybe it is all good. Maybe it was the washing of sin. But it remains mysterious why we chose to suffer in a league that dispenses enough pain already. As much as I complain about the misery and woe of this new (wanna be) regime, I have come to terms with it. Embrace the pain. Get good with it.
‘Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter’
*Dantes Inferno
January 10th, 2013 at 10:11 am
Don’t*
January 10th, 2013 at 10:12 am
504 Raider Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 10:03 am
Whats Up Nation!
A little insight on Pete Carmichael Jr.
I really like the guy and he is a great playcaller. The thing that worries me with Carmichael is that he looks like a kid and is not a strong personality type of guy. Sean Payton was the strong personality there so they worked good in tandem. Look at what happened this year without Payton. Brees is throwing picks left and right without that strong personality there to reel him in.
Unless Reggie gets some real bonafide leaders in here, our team will tear Carmichael apart (if things are not going well). That’s my only concern with Carmichael. I think we need a strong personality OC in here.
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I think DA is on a short leash..if we start out 1-4 he’s gone. I agree we need a strong personality leading this team…not convinced DA can do it.
I keep hearing Gruden is waiting for the right job to open up ;-D …wonder where?
January 10th, 2013 at 10:12 am
504
Carmichael is an HC candidate not an OC candidate.
Not even a consideration of coming here only as an OC.
Raider O
Gruden was never a QB coach by title. He was a special assistant on a few staffs and a passing game coordinator in college.
Guest123
Just trying to put a little humor in a very depressing situation.
January 10th, 2013 at 10:13 am
I could care less about the lack of coverage the Raiders get on all the networks and media, but it’s mind boggling that the Raiders OC vacancy is not touted as probably the most attractive opening outside of Head Coach openings.
We have good QB situation, good RBs, speed and talent at WR. I mean what gives.
We also have a HC that will not meddle on that side of the ball except for making sure the big uglies don’t flinch before the ball is snapped.
January 10th, 2013 at 10:15 am
guest123 Says:
Next time I get my dinner bill from the hostess, I’m signing it “expletive y’all” and see how that goes.
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There supposedly was a bad check casher charged with that and forgery. Had to drop the forgery charge ’cause his elaborate and almost illegible signature was something like “Yubeen Hadd”.
January 10th, 2013 at 10:16 am
Raider O Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 8:24 am
Btw, I hope you people understand that we are not off topic talking about kids and their issues. There is a reason why McClain behaved this way, and why Dez Bryant slapped his mother.
Bad parenting among other things.
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Pathologies of the Ghetto.
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Personality characteristics are heritable, much more important in explaining behavior, as all the research shows, than is social environment, in spite of what you’ve heard about “up-bringing.”
Yeah, parental and family relationships are very important to a child, but what they do is modulate behavior; they are not responsible for the etiology of the behavior. All adoption studies show the same thing: a child adopted and given shortly (hours) after birth to his adoptive parents, who are economically, socially, educationally, and in every other way affluent or middle class, who provide that child what is considered a “loving and well-off” upbringing, will nonetheless demonstrate personality traits that are those of his biological parents. Further, to the most important finding: prediction of ultimate life outcomes of the child is accurate only when based on examining the past behaviors of the biological parents, not the adoptive parents.
Biology always trumps nurture.
January 10th, 2013 at 10:18 am
Rolando just needs to have his name legally changed to “Fck Y’all” to beat this case.
January 10th, 2013 at 10:19 am
Don’t get me wrong I am not a police supporter, but who are the people that end up being police?
Most people do not want to become Police officers because the job kinda sucks.
I wouldn’t want to do it…would you?
January 10th, 2013 at 10:21 am
Raider O
I would like experience.
The problem is no one with experience wants this assignment if it means a lateral move.
Say what you want about Knapp but he has many supporters for the work he has done in his career.
His one and done along with our cap issues, roster void of talent and lack of draft picks make the OC job in Oakland very undesirable.
That becomes even more so if we invest our top pick on defense which is a distinct possibility.
The only guys that will view it in a positive light are candidates where the move represents a promotion.
Like Tarver or a Gruden prior to his Philly OC promotion.
It is why we have DA and Reggie in the first place.
Experienced guys ran in the other direction when Oakland’s “opportunities” came up.
Mark even had to add the sweetener of four year deals to inexperienced guys.
Very bad situation that extends into 2014.
January 10th, 2013 at 10:21 am
485 I agree. Then he needs leave the courthouse and go 2 the strip club and announce in a loud voice. “Fk Y’alls here to make it rain bthes!”
January 10th, 2013 at 10:23 am
486.DutchRaider77 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 10:19 am
Don’t get me wrong I am not a police supporter, but who are the people that end up being police?
Most people do not want to become Police officers because the job kinda sucks.
I wouldn’t want to do it…would you?
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I know people won’t agree, but becoming a Police officer is kinda what you do if you have a clean record and still can’t get a good job out of High School.
January 10th, 2013 at 10:23 am
Don’t get me wrong I am not a police supporter, but who are the people that end up being police?
Most people do not want to become Police officers because the job kinda sucks.
I wouldn’t want to do it…would you?
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I agree it’s a crap job. I don’t get the appeal. I have a nephew who wanted to be a cop more than anything and couldn’t get accepted into the police academy, so he enlisted in the Army and now is in bomb detonation school. Still can’t figure that out.
January 10th, 2013 at 10:23 am
FCK Y’ALL.
January 10th, 2013 at 10:26 am
504
Our lines are terrible and it will take two good drafts to be able to compete.(See 2014).
Our skill guys are rendered useless without good lines.
(See Dmac).
A roster already thin on talent and a rather high incident of injuries were the greatest reasons for this season’s 4-12.
Please don’t start with the bad coaching silliness.
Former Raider coach John Madden:
“It’s going to be structured around the personnel part and getting good players,” Madden said. “It’s all about players. We can talk about this thing and that thing and having good cheerleaders and all that. That’s all nice but you have to have players. If you have players, you’re probably going to win. If you don’t have players, you’re not going to win. … They’re going to go out and get the best players, and if they don’t have them, then they’re going to keep trying until they get them.”
BARNES Free agent cast off from Jacksonville. 30 years old. The Denver game is all you should need to see that he can NOT compete at the NFL level. Requires major max protect against good dlines which limits our offensive options.
CARLISLE 35 years old. Probably retiring after this year. Can Bergstrom backfill?
BRISIEL Free agent 29 years old Average performance at best this year
SHAUGNESSY Complete non factor as a pass rusher. Ineffective on rush defense as well. Continues to lose playing time to Carter who is 33.
KELLY 32 years old. Undrafted free agent signed most lucrative deal for a DT in NFL history. Easily neutralized by good Olines. Only applies rush pressure against weak fronts. Has been part of Dlines that are routinely shredded by good running backs at an embarrassingly high statistical level. The Tampa game should tell you how quickly he can disappear.
SEYMOUR 33 years old Body is shot. Cannot practice let alone play. Will not be in NFL next year. Disastrous.
Houston, Wiz II, Veldheer show promise. The rest would not be starting anywhere else in the NFL.
It will take two drafts just to deal with these holes.
January 10th, 2013 at 10:26 am
481.Charlie Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 10:12 am
504
Carmichael is an HC candidate not an OC candidate.
Not even a consideration of coming here only as an OC.
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Trust me Carmichael will not get a HC gig because of what I just explained. Him interviewing for HC gigs is nothing more than Rooney Rule type ish. And of course I know Carmichael is white.
January 10th, 2013 at 10:27 am
I agree it’s a crap job. I don’t get the appeal. I have a nephew who wanted to be a cop more than anything and couldn’t get accepted into the police academy, so he enlisted in the Army and now is in bomb detonation school. Still can’t figure that out
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You don’t get the appeal of being above the law? A job that commands respect or else? Most military and police jobs appeal to people with low self esteem. Thinking is the uniform commands respect and admiration.
January 10th, 2013 at 10:27 am
Most people do not want to become Police officers because the job kinda sucks.
I wouldn’t want to do it…would you?
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I know people won’t agree, but becoming a Police officer is kinda what you do if you have a clean record and still can’t get a good job out of High School.
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Cop pulls my wife over and he comes up to the window and asks “do you know why I am here?”
Wife says “cause you have a short dick and only got C’s in high school”
Needless to say she got the ticket. LMAO
January 10th, 2013 at 10:27 am
There are three teams McKenzie and Allen are most connected to.
Green Bay, Atlanta, New Orleans.
The silence of OC interviews suggesting a target is someone still in the playoffs rules out New Orleans.
In the link you can click the names to read a bit more about them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_National_Football_League_staffs
Packers Coaches:
Offensive Coaches
Offensive Coordinator – Tom Clements
Quarterbacks – Ben McAdoo
Running Backs – Alex Van Pelt
Wide Receivers – Edgar Bennett
Tight Ends – Jerry Fontenot
Offensive Line – James Campen
Assistant Offensive Line – Joel Hilgenberg
Offensive Assistant/Special Teams – John Rushing
Falcons Coaches:
Offensive Coaches
Offensive Coordinator – Dirk Koetter
Quarterbacks – Glenn Thomas
Running Backs – Gerald Brown
Wide Receivers – Terry Robiskie
Tight Ends – Chris Scelfo
Offensive Line – Pat Hill
Assistant Offensive Line – Paul Dunn
Offensive Assistant – Andrew Weidinger
Assistant to the Head Coach/Offense – Devin Bonik
January 10th, 2013 at 10:28 am
The_Judge37 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 10:23 am
486.DutchRaider77 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 10:19 am
Don’t get me wrong I am not a police supporter, but who are the people that end up being police?
Most people do not want to become Police officers because the job kinda sucks.
I wouldn’t want to do it…would you?
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I know people won’t agree, but becoming a Police officer is kinda what you do if you have a clean record and still can’t get a good job out of High School.
490.guest123 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 10:23 am
Don’t get me wrong I am not a police supporter, but who are the people that end up being police?
Most people do not want to become Police officers because the job kinda sucks.
I wouldn’t want to do it…would you?
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I agree it’s a crap job. I don’t get the appeal. I have a nephew who wanted to be a cop more than anything and couldn’t get accepted into the police academy, so he enlisted in the Army and now is in bomb detonation school. Still can’t figure that out.
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Maybe the mental health evaluation for gun ownership that is on the horizon might eliminate a bunch of cops from carrying guns?
Unintended consequences? lol
January 10th, 2013 at 10:30 am
Charlie, post 492.
Give it to us straight. Don’t pull any punches or sugarcoat it. So….You saying we have a chance?
January 10th, 2013 at 10:31 am
Problem is good people don’t usually want to become police officers or teachers, or politicians, so we’re stuck with the A Holes that do. Kind of self inflicted in a way.
January 10th, 2013 at 10:32 am
Good points Judge
January 10th, 2013 at 10:34 am
Statewide quake in California may be possible after all
http://www.latimes.com/news/science/la-sci-big-earthquakes-20130110,0,6874491.story?track=lanowpicks
January 10th, 2013 at 10:34 am
499.The_Judge37 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 10:31 am
Problem is good people don’t usually want to become police officers or teachers, or politicians, so we’re stuck with the A Holes that do. Kind of self inflicted in a way.
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Very true…speaking of teachers, how many people have relected back in life and realized that some or many of their teachers were f’ing freaks!
January 10th, 2013 at 10:34 am
Problem with cops as I see it is they dont have rules against moonlighting.
Here in Tampa, they did a story in the local paper on this. Turns out cops that were taking home base salaries of $65K/yr were actually pulling in $145K/yr. They were making more than there base salaries as off-duty private security and event staffers. When the balance swings this way, you end up with nothing but mercenaries, and the public is the last thing they are worried about serving.
January 10th, 2013 at 10:35 am
Man this flu thing is pretty bad…..Contagion coming true?
Get your flu shot!
January 10th, 2013 at 10:36 am
RIP the stripper from Cleveland who fell to her death in a tragic pole dancing accident.
January 10th, 2013 at 10:37 am
Oh no! A monkey shht into some pig sht and now we’re all doomed.
January 10th, 2013 at 10:38 am
Burton Guster Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 10:00 am
Carroll is one of a handful of coaches who boldly dipped into option concepts on offense this season, shaping his attack around Wilson’s gifts instead of trying to fit the rookie into a system he’s not suited for. It’s turned Seattle into a dangerous playoff entry, one that attack opponents in multiple ways.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000124514/article/pete-carroll-nfl-has-shifted-to-embrace-young-qbs
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This is what seperates real coaches from wanna bes’. Like DA and knapp. DA supported knapps scheme, or maybe he was doing Reggies bidding. But the point remains. Coaches who feel good about their own nutt sack build around who they got, not trying to force feed a scheme upon the players. DAs bold move dumping knapp was a good start, but he has a long ways to go. Wave of the future? The future is now. Build around your personel. No brainer. Ease the pain.
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Simple as that. Its the difference between good coaches and bad coaches. Seattle has a good head coach. We dont. It would be nice if we did something about that soon, but looks like Reggie is gonna stick with a mediocre/bad coach. So, with that said, hopefully after Dennis is finally canned, 4 games into the season or whenever, NEXT time, MAYBE we will get a half way decent head coach.
January 10th, 2013 at 10:39 am
guest123 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 10:37 am
Oh no! A monkey shht into some pig sht and now we’re all doomed.
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Stop eating Asian pig shyyyyt!!!!
January 10th, 2013 at 10:41 am
505.Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 10:36 am
RIP the stripper from Cleveland who fell to her death in a tragic pole dancing accident.
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So sad…looked up the story. I think we need to have some kind of memorial in Washington to honor many of the fallen heroes who have died in the line of fire.
January 10th, 2013 at 10:41 am
Charlie,
That makes sense.
We disagree on Knapp and 2014.
-Knapp: he has 10 years of experience as OC, he had 2 top 10 years in scoring with SF, 3 avg years (mid teens) with ATL & SF, and 5 bad years (20’s) with ATL, Oak, and Seattle.
He was a QB coach in Houston for 2 years before we hired him for a reason, and I doubt ge will get another OC job in the NFL.
-2014: I think a good coaching staff (especially OC since we have CP & DMC), a great draft, and a few good moves in FA can have us competing for a wildcard spot IMHO. We will find what our staff and GM are capable of by next season.
January 10th, 2013 at 10:42 am
Charlie Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 10:26 am
504
Our lines are terrible and it will take two good drafts to be able to compete.(See 2014).
Our skill guys are rendered useless without good lines.
(See Dmac).
A roster already thin on talent and a rather high incident of injuries were the greatest reasons for this season’s 4-12.
Please don’t start with the bad coaching silliness.
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OK then start a poll in here to see who would want us to use our first two picks on the O-line and rehire Knapp. I can tell you right now that a big black dude with freckles and red hair already cast the first “NO” vote.
January 10th, 2013 at 10:43 am
Guest 123
I have been saying it since 2003.
We have ignored our lines for a decade and drafted horribly for a decade.
Our cap issues were the worst in the NFL last year and we do not have a full complement of picks till 2014.
The Redskins and Seahawks, with veteran seasoned coaches, took three years to get back to the playoffs without facing anything like our aforementioned problems.
Need more?
No chance in 2013. We may get to 7-9 next year AT BEST.
I predicted 6 wins this year WITH NO INJURIES.
It has very little to do with coaching.
It has everything to do with a decade of mismanagement and a massive lack of player talent.
January 10th, 2013 at 10:44 am
494.The_Judge37 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 10:27 am
I agree it’s a crap job. I don’t get the appeal. I have a nephew who wanted to be a cop more than anything and couldn’t get accepted into the police academy, so he enlisted in the Army and now is in bomb detonation school. Still can’t figure that out
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You don’t get the appeal of being above the law? A job that commands respect or else? Most military and police jobs appeal to people with low self esteem. Thinking is the uniform commands respect and admiration.
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I personally know two cats down here that joined the force just so they can eat free at Popeyes.
January 10th, 2013 at 10:44 am
OMG…Reggie is Howdy Doody?
January 10th, 2013 at 10:44 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 10:34 am
499.The_Judge37 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 10:31 am
Problem is good people don’t usually want to become police officers or teachers, or politicians, so we’re stuck with the A Holes that do. Kind of self inflicted in a way.
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Very true…speaking of teachers, how many people have relected back in life and realized that some or many of their teachers were f’ing freaks
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I know some of the Teacher’s i’ve know are big freaks. Super Slutty.
FYI, if you meet a girl that says she’s a teacher, forget all the prince charming moves and go raw. Higher the grade level, bigger the freak.
January 10th, 2013 at 10:44 am
Albert Breer @AlbertBreer
RT @BFeldmanCBS: RT @JFowlerCBS 2 Bama sources say they expect RB Eddie Lacy & CB Dee Milliner to declare for NFL draft http://cbsprt.co/10iJCxo
Draft Eddie Lacey
January 10th, 2013 at 10:45 am
He*
January 10th, 2013 at 10:45 am
I personally know two cats down here that joined the force just so they can eat free at Popeyes.
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Damm i might have to re evaluate my career, I love their biscuts.
January 10th, 2013 at 10:47 am
I wish we had 5 first round picks…..damn.
Sounds like KC will take Joeckel…..damn.
Brian Kelly interviewing for NFL jobs….damn.
Lakers….damn.
January 10th, 2013 at 10:48 am
What would be worng with Milliner?
January 10th, 2013 at 10:49 am
Dakota Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 10:47 am
I wish we had 5 first round picks…..damn.
Sounds like KC will take Joeckel…..damn.
Brian Kelly interviewing for NFL jobs….damn.
Lakers….damn.
I know right…how the F does the stepchild Clippers take over Staples??? Dam you Jim Buss!!!
January 10th, 2013 at 10:50 am
474.REALLIONAIREB Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 10:08 am
504 Raider Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 10:03 am
Whats Up Nation!
A little insight on Pete Carmichael Jr.
I really like the guy and he is a great playcaller. The thing that worries me with Carmichael is that he looks like a kid and is not a strong personality type of guy. Sean Payton was the strong personality there so they worked good in tandem. Look at what happened this year without Payton. Brees is throwing picks left and right without that strong personality there to reel him in.
Unless Reggie gets some real bonafide leaders in here, our team will tear Carmichael apart (if things are not going well). That’s my only concern with Carmichael. I think we need a strong personality OC in here.
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We had one…RM fired him!!!
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Yep, Hue was a stong personality and Davis and McK were too scared and intimidated by that strong personality. That’s why a puppy like DA was hired.
This clowns are too scared and intimidated by a strong personality type of coach of OC.
January 10th, 2013 at 10:50 am
Charlie Says:
Our lines are terrible and it will take two good drafts to be able to compete.(See 2014).
Our skill guys are rendered useless without good lines.
(See Dmac).
A roster already thin on talent and a rather high incident of injuries were the greatest reasons for this season’s 4-12.
Please don’t start with the bad coaching silliness.
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BS.
2010 and 2011 rendered much, much better results than the 2012 team, with the same core of players and in some cases, a distinct aavantage (Palmer, McFadden and Moore together).
By the way, the OL produced top 10 rushing attacks in 10 and 11 and was among the League leaders in QB protection, the new Coaching staff decided to let Satele go, sign Brisiel instead and shuffle the interior positions while implementing a new ill-advised scheme, those are coaching decisions my friend.
Bad coaching was the biggest downgrade from the previuos 2 seasons.
January 10th, 2013 at 10:50 am
What kind of offensive coordinator should the Oakland Raiders look for? Just last week, the Raiders fired four coaches; however, no word on their shopping scheme has been leaked out.
Bleacher Report stated in their article on Tuesday that General Manager Reggie McKenzie and Coach Dennis Allen have not released any information on what is next with the replacement of the four coaches fired.
The web page also suggested what type of couches the Raiders needed for next season and made a good point of it. The article mostly tackled the issue on the offensive coordinator replacement.
Bleacher Report stated that Oakland needs an offensive coordinator that will bring flexibility, experience, and production. The article also mentioned a couple of the candidates—Marty Mornhinweg, current offensive coordinator of the Eagles, and Al Saunders, current Oakland Special Assistant with tight ends.
As for flexibility, Greg Knapp, the offensive coordinator that was fired last week, did not have much flexibility. The Raiders have been relying on the running game ever since Hue Jackson was the head coach in 2011.
The current offense was place to fit that scheme—the West Coast Offense. Apparently, the players were not fit to play that type of offense and the Knapp did not flex a cinch to fix the problem.
Bleacher Report stated that the new coach must be flexible and run plays that flex around the players, not the players around the plays.
As for experience, Oakland needs a bit of that as well. The head coach and defensive coordinator, Jason Tarver, had their first year in the NFL this season, and it did not work out well.
Getting an offensive coordinator that has experience will bring more to the table than someone who is entirely new to the position.
Production is also another factor that the Raiders need in an offensive coordinator. All the Raider fans know that is a very true! If the offensive coordinator is flexible and experienced, productivity should fall in place.
Well, in a nutshell, that is what the Raiders might need for next season. Bleacher also stated that the Raiders need a “high octane” offensive coordinator, which Coach Allen is actually looking for. That wouldn’t be bad either! Why not?
January 10th, 2013 at 10:50 am
Wonder what the cost differential in getting a #1 receiver or two of the top receiving TEs Free agents?
January 10th, 2013 at 10:51 am
I know right…how the F does the stepchild Clippers take over Staples??? Dam you Jim Buss!!!
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Answered your own question with Tommy Boy 2. Mark and Jim need to do a sequel to “Step Brother”
January 10th, 2013 at 10:51 am
I am not a big Knapp fan.
He was not our first choice for OC.
I get all that.
All I am saying is that within the coaching fraternity,
the OC job in Oakland is a very messy propostion for ANY candidate.
There is a massive lack of talent on the Raiders.
Just because we pay these guys alot does not mean they are any good. (See Routt).
We are fixing the mess but it takes time given our issues.
The lack of talent is 80% of the problem.
Coaching is a much smaller problem.
As Madden says. You generally win if you have good players and lose if you don’t. It is all about the players and MANY OF THE RAIDERS are BAD!!!!
(See Routt, Warren, Slaughter,Wilson,Walker and on and on and on). Been that way for the last ten years.
January 10th, 2013 at 10:52 am
The_Judge37 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 10:51 am
I know right…how the F does the stepchild Clippers take over Staples??? Dam you Jim Buss!!!
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Answered your own question with Tommy Boy 2. Mark and Jim need to do a sequel to “Step Brother”
LOL, would be funny considering Mark is a Clips fan!
January 10th, 2013 at 10:52 am
AFC West keeps getting hotter, Raiders lagging behind
ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk
Arians interested in Chargers job with Tom Telesco there http://wp.me/p14QSB-6SV0
January 10th, 2013 at 10:53 am
511.504 Raider Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 10:42 am
Charlie Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 10:26 am
504
Our lines are terrible and it will take two good drafts to be able to compete.(See 2014).
Our skill guys are rendered useless without good lines.
(See Dmac).
A roster already thin on talent and a rather high incident of injuries were the greatest reasons for this season’s 4-12.
Please don’t start with the bad coaching silliness.
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OK then start a poll in here to see who would want us to use our first two picks on the O-line and rehire Knapp. I can tell you right now that a big black dude with freckles and red hair already cast the first “NO” vote.
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When it comes to our OLine, the need is at Center and move Wiz back to LG, then get Bergstrom reps at RT.
Veld is fine at LT. The need is at Center so Wiz can go back and dominate at LG like he did last year.
January 10th, 2013 at 10:54 am
January 10th, 2013 at 10:31 am
Problem is good people don’t usually want to become police officers or teachers, or politicians, so we’re stuck with the A Holes that do. Kind of self inflicted in a way.
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There’s plenty of good ones out there…..I know some.
Just like any job, there’s a broad spectrum of “People”…..
Teachers that care so much and passionate about the development of their students…..
and teachers that lure kids away and abuse them….
Passionate caring Doctors……And doctors who cut you open and operate on the wrong body part, then realize it, and say FU*K it, close him up……
comon, every job has A$$ Bags and Great people in it.
January 10th, 2013 at 10:54 am
Charlie Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 10:51 am
I am not a big Knapp fan.
He was not our first choice for OC.
I get all that.
All I am saying is that within the coaching fraternity,
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He wasn’t? Who was our first choice?
January 10th, 2013 at 10:54 am
Kinda makes you wonder about our education system, huh?
January 10th, 2013 at 10:58 am
I think Reggie will be heavily involed in this OC hire because if DA is on a short leash, this new OC will most likely be promoted interim HC at some point during the season. So look for guys out there who has already or seem like they can run a whole team to be our next OC.
January 10th, 2013 at 10:59 am
527.Charlie Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 10:51 am
I am not a big Knapp fan.
He was not our first choice for OC.
I get all that.
All I am saying is that within the coaching fraternity,
the OC job in Oakland is a very messy propostion for ANY candidate.
There is a massive lack of talent on the Raiders.
Just because we pay these guys alot does not mean they are any good. (See Routt).
We are fixing the mess but it takes time given our issues.
The lack of talent is 80% of the problem.
Coaching is a much smaller problem.
As Madden says. You generally win if you have good players and lose if you don’t. It is all about the players and MANY OF THE RAIDERS are BAD!!!!
(See Routt, Warren, Slaughter,Wilson,Walker and on and on and on). Been that way for the last ten years.
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Hmm….Hue had most of the same guys when he was here for two years with Cable for one year and now the excuse is lack of talent when DA leads us to only 4 wins.
McK and DA seriously screwed up by not just keeping Saunders as OC and maintaining the same system that him and Hue ran.
Then finally, the idiots admit ther mistakes by firing Knapp and the Oline coach and ST coach.
Switching offensive philosophies was stupid and most us semis and real Raider Nation fans knew it, but the “professionals” like Davis, McK and DA didn’t know it??
Troubling.
January 10th, 2013 at 11:00 am
Cowboys tryna get Monte
January 10th, 2013 at 11:01 am
Marley
Let me know when the coaches represent 80%.
Until you have the salary data to show me that; Knapp never had to block, tackle, run, pass or catch.
I get that coaching is a factor but not a predominant one.
THE GAME IS PRIMARILY ABOUT ON FIELD TALENT.
Do not delude your self to thinking that with a quick signing of an OC we are playoff bound.
The problems on the Raiders are complex involving an overhauled scouting department heading into their first draft.
Lacking draft picks not having had a number one since 2010.
Still over the cap by $5 milion. (A 4-12 team over the cap at all is mind boggling. The 8-8 teams you so fondly rememeber were $20 and $30 million OVER THE CAP. Don’t you see the absurdity of that?)
January 10th, 2013 at 11:01 am
DA got the penalties way down and got the most out of the D at the tail end of the season. The right coordinators and solid personell moves can give us hope.
draft star or moore
it’ll never happen but woudn’t hue be a good fit being that his offense scored points with the same key offensive players?
January 10th, 2013 at 11:03 am
especially when reggie is still trying to pass remedial math…
January 10th, 2013 at 11:03 am
An good experienced OC is what is needed.
Not a fresh faced inexperienced one where it will be his first time calling plays and as an OC. Too much risk.
DA and Tarver are already inexperienced enough.
January 10th, 2013 at 11:03 am
Raider O Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 8:50 am
KK,
I met some people from the ghetto who were raised by their grandparents because their parents are in jail or on drugs, and they are well behaved and educated.
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I agree, but still. It’s a lot to overcome, especially for a single-woman trying to handle young boys in that environment.
January 10th, 2013 at 11:04 am
Mike Mularkey was fired today… his last stint as OC in Atlanta was successful as well as his time with the Steelers. He sucks as head coach, but has won as OC when he’s had talent. Might be an interesting candidate for OC.
Here’s his stats for time with Falcons as OC…
On January 25, 2008 it was announced that he would become the next offensive coordinator for the Atlanta Falcons.[6][7] In his first season at Atlanta, Mularkey’s offense rushed for 152.5 rushing yards per game, second most in the league. The Falcons also finished 10th in the NFL in scoring (up from 29th the previous year) with 24.4 points per game, and 6th in yards with 361.2 per game. After the 2010 season, Mularkey interviewed with multiple NFL teams for their head coaching vacancies for 2011.
January 10th, 2013 at 11:04 am
538.inonewordraider Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 11:01 am
DA got the penalties way down and got the most out of the D at the tail end of the season. The right coordinators and solid personell moves can give us hope.
draft star or moore
it’ll never happen but woudn’t hue be a good fit being that his offense scored points with the same key offensive players?
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Trading down is priority #1.
January 10th, 2013 at 11:05 am
New Jaguars general manager David Caldwell wasted no time remaking the franchise under his terms, as he fired head coach Mike Mularkey after one season, the team announced.
January 10th, 2013 at 11:06 am
yay..for the penalty coach…4-12 in the real world.
January 10th, 2013 at 11:06 am
KoolKell Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 11:05 am
New Jaguars general manager David Caldwell wasted no time remaking the franchise under his terms, as he fired head coach Mike Mularkey after one season, the team announced.
Hmmmm….sound familiar?
January 10th, 2013 at 11:07 am
I would accept Mularkey as OC of the Raiders.
A good experienced OC is needed like Norv, Mularkey or Gailey maybe.
Carmichael would work and Morningwheg as last resort. Morning runs more of a WCO though. Ugh
January 10th, 2013 at 11:09 am
Charlie.
“I get that coaching is a factor but not a predominant one.
THE GAME IS PRIMARILY ABOUT ON FIELD TALENT.”
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It’s much more than talent itself.
It’s about how to put your talent in the best position to succeeed by implementing the systems, plays and play-calling that fit what your players do best!.
And that is called Coaching.
January 10th, 2013 at 11:09 am
Bob Marley Says:
BS.
2010 and 2011 rendered much, much better results than the 2012 team, with the same core of players and in some cases, a distinct aavantage (Palmer, McFadden and Moore together).
By the way, the OL produced top 10 rushing attacks in 10 and 11 and was among the League leaders in QB protection, the new Coaching staff decided to let Satele go, sign Brisiel instead and shuffle the interior positions while implementing a new ill-advised scheme, those are coaching decisions my friend.
Bad coaching was the biggest downgrade from the previuos 2 seasons.
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Bears repeating. Here, Here! Bob, take a bow!
January 10th, 2013 at 11:10 am
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 11:06 am
yay..for the penalty coach…4-12 in the real world
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haha…it’s sad when someone states the only good thing DA did was reduce the penalties.
Who cares….I would rather commit 10 penalties a game and get the win, instead lose games and commit 3 penalties a game.
January 10th, 2013 at 11:10 am
DKNIGHT
As I said let me know when the Raider coaches make up the vast majority of the Raider payroll.
Until then the players have to play.
I am not a fan of the zone blocking scheme but what did that cost us? Maybe 2 wins? Was Knapp responsible for not being able to resign Bush? For having Dmac and Goodson injured for the same five week period?
For having to use Smith at RT for seven weeks because we COULD NOT AFFORD ANYONE ELSE?
I am amazed many of you long for the days of an 8-8 football team $22 million over the cap that COLLAPSED DOWN THE STRETCH.
It was a house of cards that was not sustainable and the roster had to be gutted.
January 10th, 2013 at 11:10 am
We should go after Mularkey. He’s got a proven track history with teams that were stocked with talent. It’s tough to throw last year’s Jags on him. That was a no win situation. I’d be ecstatic to get him.
January 10th, 2013 at 11:12 am
Bob Marley Says:
BS.
2010 and 2011 rendered much, much better results than the 2012 team, with the same core of players and in some cases, a distinct aavantage (Palmer, McFadden and Moore together).
By the way, the OL produced top 10 rushing attacks in 10 and 11 and was among the League leaders in QB protection, the new Coaching staff decided to let Satele go, sign Brisiel instead and shuffle the interior positions while implementing a new ill-advised scheme, those are coaching decisions my friend.
Bad coaching was the biggest downgrade from the previuos 2 seasons.
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Yep! Letting Satele go and signing Brisiel and switching O schemes was just a stupid mistake by McK and DA, that it boggles the mind.
Why did they try to fix something that wasn’t broken on offense?
Dumb dumbs!
January 10th, 2013 at 11:13 am
548.Bob Marley Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 11:09 am
Charlie.
“I get that coaching is a factor but not a predominant one.
THE GAME IS PRIMARILY ABOUT ON FIELD TALENT.”
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It’s much more than talent itself.
It’s about how to put your talent in the best position to succeeed by implementing the systems, plays and play-calling that fit what your players do best!.
And that is called Coaching.
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What about Bill Callahan’s second year? Plenty of talent still here.
January 10th, 2013 at 11:13 am
I like the approach DA and Reg are using this time around, last year it seemed like they hired an OC right after DA got hired without looking much into the players on the roster, the only reason they are taking this long i think is they’re weighing their options and also taking a good look at the roster and etc.etc. which is a good thing
January 10th, 2013 at 11:14 am
Marley
I guess that is why we are on our seventh staff in 10 years while never getting above 8-8 let alone getting to the playoffs.
It is all about the coaching????
Logic dictates otherwise.
I believe the saying goes something like; insanity is defined as continuing to do the same thing over and over again expecting different results.
Have you been paying attention the last ten years?
Lets get better talent and stop the silliness and whining about coaching issues.
January 10th, 2013 at 11:15 am
Violent Hands, I have a present for you to bookmark. It’s a google search for Raider news that excludes Bleccher report. This one’s set for previous 24 hours, but you can change that. You’ll thank me later.
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January 10th, 2013 at 11:17 am
Mularkey would be a coup for DA.
He’s held the OC position for extended periods of time twice in his career, Pittsburgh from 2001 to 2003 and Atlanta from 2008 to 2011, he earned himself a promotion to Head Coach in both cases, this guy is good and he’ll be coveted.
January 10th, 2013 at 11:18 am
555.mcfadden20. Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 11:13 am
I like the approach DA and Reg are using this time around, last year it seemed like they hired an OC right after DA got hired without looking much into the players on the roster, the only reason they are taking this long i think is they’re weighing their options and also taking a good look at the roster and etc.etc. which is a good thing
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Or they’re waiting for another “Not our fist option” fall guy?
January 10th, 2013 at 11:18 am
548.Bob Marley Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 11:09 am
Charlie.
“I get that coaching is a factor but not a predominant one.
THE GAME IS PRIMARILY ABOUT ON FIELD TALENT.”
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It’s much more than talent itself.
It’s about how to put your talent in the best position to succeeed by implementing the systems, plays and play-calling that fit what your players do best!.
And that is called Coaching.
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Also referred to as “Common Sense.”
January 10th, 2013 at 11:18 am
Charlie Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 11:14 am
Marley
I guess that is why we are on our seventh staff in 10 years while never getting above 8-8 let alone getting to the playoffs.
It is all about the coaching????
Logic dictates otherwise.
I believe the saying goes something like; insanity is defined as continuing to do the same thing over and over again expecting different results.
Have you been paying attention the last ten years?
Lets get better talent and stop the silliness and whining about coaching issues.
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The Raiders don’t pick their players up off the street. They get their players the same place every other team does, from the NFL Players market.
DA, just said they have enough talent to do better than they did.
Coaching!
January 10th, 2013 at 11:19 am
Judge
Gannon got hurt in 2003.
Many of you look at roster names without taking into account INJURIES.
2003 team was nothing like our 2002 team.
Come on.
January 10th, 2013 at 11:19 am
558.Bob Marley Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 11:17 am
Mularkey would be a coup for DA.
He’s held the OC position for extended periods of time twice in his career, Pittsburgh from 2001 to 2003 and Atlanta from 2008 to 2011, he earned himself a promotion to Head Coach in both cases, this guy is good and he’ll be coveted.
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And he had Jax fighting pretty hard in most games. I think he’ll end up HC in Arizona.
January 10th, 2013 at 11:20 am
Charlie Says:
I am not a big Knapp fan.
He was not our first choice for OC.
I get all that.
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You’ve probably read this already, but I prefer this take on Oaklands OC situation last year and going forward from James Arcellana at SandBPride.
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2013/1/9/3850822/oakland-raiders-off-season-offensive-coordinator-darren-mcfadden-carson-palmer
January 10th, 2013 at 11:21 am
555.mcfadden20. Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 11:13 am
I like the approach DA and Reg are using this time around, last year it seemed like they hired an OC right after DA got hired without looking much into the players on the roster, the only reason they are taking this long i think is they’re weighing their options and also taking a good look at the roster and etc.etc. which is a good thing
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What they should be doing is simple. However, their egos and stupid pride will probavbly prevent them from doing it.
All they need to do is watch video of the Offense that we had in 2010 and 2011, when yes…HUE was the OC/Playcaller and HC.
If they study that tape of our solid Offense in 2010 and 2011, then they will find the answers they are looking for.
These guys are stubborn dummies though, so anything that has Hue’s name on it is something they will just stay away from.
Stubborness and Stupidity is not a good thing.
January 10th, 2013 at 11:23 am
Kell
ROUNDS ONE AND TWO THE LAST 10 YEARS.
2002 Phillip Buchanon, Nap Harris, Langston Walker, Doug Jolley
2003 Nnamdi, Tyler Brayton, Teyo Johnson
2004 Robert Gallery, Jake Grove
2005 Fabian Washington, Stanford Routt
2006 Michael Huff, Thomas Howard
2007 JAMRCUS RUSSELL, Zack Miller
2008 DMAC
2009 DHB, Mike Mitchell
2010 Rolando McClain, Lamarr Houston
2011 Stefan Wiz
A heavy dose of incompetance that has nothing to do with Reggie or DA.
Pete Carroll 7-9 First season 14-18 first TWO seasons
Mike Shanahan 6-10 First season 11-21 first TWO seasons (in Washington)
Belichick 36-44 in Cleveland 5-11 first season 16-16 first TWO seasons (in NE)
Reid 5-11 First season 16-16 first two seasons
In an interesting comparison I offer the following:
George Seifert 98-30 with the Niners 16-32 with the Panthers
Tom Flores 83-53 with the Raiders 14-34 with the Seahawks
AMPLE EVIDENCE TO SUGGEST THAT ON FEILD TALENT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT FACTOR IN WINNING FOOTBALL GAMES!!!!!!
January 10th, 2013 at 11:24 am
551.Charlie Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 11:10 am
DKNIGHT
As I said let me know when the Raider coaches make up the vast majority of the Raider payroll.
Until then the players have to play.
I am not a fan of the zone blocking scheme but what did that cost us? Maybe 2 wins? Was Knapp responsible for not being able to resign Bush? For having Dmac and Goodson injured for the same five week period?
For having to use Smith at RT for seven weeks because we COULD NOT AFFORD ANYONE ELSE?
I am amazed many of you long for the days of an 8-8 football team $22 million over the cap that COLLAPSED DOWN THE STRETCH.
It was a house of cards that was not sustainable and the roster had to be gutted.
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You don’t think having 7 different coaches in 10 years was and is a problem for the Raiders?
Without good coaching and game planning and play calling, talented players can’t flourish.
January 10th, 2013 at 11:25 am
I don’t watch enough Non-Raiders football to make suggestions on OC’s, but just bring in someone who wants to coach OUR players. Not blow it up and force their own system that needs completely different players.
January 10th, 2013 at 11:27 am
I know some of you do not like to hear this, but it is the truth. Al Davis threw millions at players that had poor character. His drafting the last 10 years of his life are the worst in NFL history. This was no way to run a business in these times. We have a much brighter future with Al Davis no longer making player decisions.
January 10th, 2013 at 11:27 am
566.Charlie Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 11:23 am
Kell
ROUNDS ONE AND TWO THE LAST 10 YEARS.
2002 Phillip Buchanon, Nap Harris, Langston Walker, Doug Jolley
2003 Nnamdi, Tyler Brayton, Teyo Johnson
2004 Robert Gallery, Jake Grove
2005 Fabian Washington, Stanford Routt
2006 Michael Huff, Thomas Howard
2007 JAMRCUS RUSSELL, Zack Miller
2008 DMAC
2009 DHB, Mike Mitchell
2010 Rolando McClain, Lamarr Houston
2011 Stefan Wiz
A heavy dose of incompetance that has nothing to do with Reggie or DA.
Pete Carroll 7-9 First season 14-18 first TWO seasons
Mike Shanahan 6-10 First season 11-21 first TWO seasons (in Washington)
Belichick 36-44 in Cleveland 5-11 first season 16-16 first TWO seasons (in NE)
Reid 5-11 First season 16-16 first two seasons
In an interesting comparison I offer the following:
George Seifert 98-30 with the Niners 16-32 with the Panthers
Tom Flores 83-53 with the Raiders 14-34 with the Seahawks
AMPLE EVIDENCE TO SUGGEST THAT ON FEILD TALENT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT FACTOR IN WINNING FOOTBALL GAMES!!!!!!
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Non of those guys were as bad as 4-12. That’s what i notice. 2-14 if we didn’t play in the same division as KC.
January 10th, 2013 at 11:27 am
The_Judge37 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 11:19 am
558.Bob Marley Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 11:17 am
Mularkey would be a coup for DA.
He’s held the OC position for extended periods of time twice in his career, Pittsburgh from 2001 to 2003 and Atlanta from 2008 to 2011, he earned himself a promotion to Head Coach in both cases, this guy is good and he’ll be coveted.
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And he had Jax fighting pretty hard in most games. I think he’ll end up HC in Arizona.
…
might be an instant candidate for Bears job as well
January 10th, 2013 at 11:28 am
Charlie,
If coaching is not important, then why did our new GM and new HC switch offensive schemes when it didn’t need to be??
Just their blind hate for anything Hue related clouded their already questionable judgement.
A good smart new coach would have realized that the O system needed to remain intact and not messed with.
If DA knew what he was doing, he should have known better.
January 10th, 2013 at 11:29 am
555.mcfadden20. Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 11:13 am
I like the approach DA and Reg are using this time around, last year it seemed like they hired an OC right after DA got hired without looking much into the players on the roster, the only reason they are taking this long i think is they’re weighing their options and also taking a good look at the roster and etc.etc. which is a good thing
^^^^^^^^^
What they should be doing is simple. However, their egos and stupid pride will probably prevent them from doing it.
All they need to do is watch video of the Offense that we had in 2010 and 2011, when yes…HUE was the OC/Playcaller and HC.
If they study that tape of our solid Offense in 2010 and 2011, then they will find the answers they are looking for.
These guys are stubborn dummies though, so anything that has Hue’s name on it is something they will just stay away from.
Stubborness and Stupidity is not a good thing.
January 10th, 2013 at 11:29 am
569.beach Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 11:27 am
I know some of you do not like to hear this, but it is the truth. Al Davis threw millions at players that had poor character. His drafting the last 10 years of his life are the worst in NFL history. This was no way to run a business in these times. We have a much brighter future with Al Davis no longer making player decisions.
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I agree with that as far as personnel decisions. But he was a great owner in the fact that he spared no expense at improving the team. We’ll see if Mark treats this organization with the same mentality of runs it more like a business where he needs the profits for his personal life.
January 10th, 2013 at 11:30 am
Teams that suddenly start winning for a season or two,its usually the coaching as other teams coaches soon catch up with what they are doing and the talent alone cannot sustain the winning,in most cases anyway
January 10th, 2013 at 11:30 am
Charlie, Charlie…
“Pete Carroll 7-9 First season 14-18 first TWO seasons
Mike Shanahan 6-10 First season 11-21 first TWO seasons (in Washington)
Belichick 36-44 in Cleveland 5-11 first season 16-16 first TWO seasons (in NE)
Reid 5-11 First season 16-16 first two seasons.”
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Did any of those Coaches took over a competitive, .500 team (16-16 the pevious 2 years), a team that was a couple of plays from the playoffs and turned them into a 4 game winner and one of the worst teams in franchise history?.
January 10th, 2013 at 11:32 am
537.Charlie Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 11:01 am
Marley
Let me know when the coaches represent 80%.
Until you have the salary data to show me that; Knapp never had to block, tackle, run, pass or catch.
I get that coaching is a factor but not a predominant one.
THE GAME IS PRIMARILY ABOUT ON FIELD TALENT.
Do not delude your self to thinking that with a quick signing of an OC we are playoff bound.
The problems on the Raiders are complex involving an overhauled scouting department heading into their first draft.
Lacking draft picks not having had a number one since 2010.
Still over the cap by $5 milion. (A 4-12 team over the cap at all is mind boggling. The 8-8 teams you so fondly rememeber were $20 and $30 million OVER THE CAP. Don’t you see the absurdity of that?)
^^^^^^^^
You act like the previous teams under Cable and Hue going 8-8 and DOMINATING the AFC West divisional opponents was a bad thing?
Wow and 4-12 is a good thing? WTF?
January 10th, 2013 at 11:33 am
The_Judge37 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 11:18 am
555.mcfadden20. Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 11:13 am
I like the approach DA and Reg are using this time around, last year it seemed like they hired an OC right after DA got hired without looking much into the players on the roster, the only reason they are taking this long i think is they’re weighing their options and also taking a good look at the roster and etc.etc. which is a good thing
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Or they’re waiting for another “Not our fist option” fall guy?
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way more options this time around compared to last year, Norv, Mularky, Pete Carmichael, I think Dallas will fire their coach as well , so Jason Garret is an interesting OC too, i’m pretty sure there are some names i’m forgetting some blog guys want to see as OC candidates
January 10th, 2013 at 11:33 am
It doesn’t have to be one or the other. It can be both bad coaching and lack of talent.
Good coaching + Bad Talent would have subpar talent fighting hard and losing.
Bad Coaching + Bad Talent = 4-12
January 10th, 2013 at 11:34 am
Charlie.
“Pete Carroll 7-9 First season 14-18 first TWO seasons
Mike Shanahan 6-10 First season 11-21 first TWO seasons (in Washington)
Belichick 36-44 in Cleveland 5-11 first season 16-16 first TWO seasons (in NE)
Reid 5-11 First season 16-16 first two seasons.”
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Did any of those Coaches took over a competitive, .500 team (16-16 the pevious 2 years), a team that was a couple of plays from the playoffs and turned them into a 4 game winner and one of the worst teams in franchise history?.
Let me put it this way…did any of those coaches made their teams worst than they were the previous season?.
January 10th, 2013 at 11:34 am
A heavy dose of incompetance that has nothing to do with Reggie or DA.
Pete Carroll 7-9 First season 14-18 first TWO seasons
Mike Shanahan 6-10 First season 11-21 first TWO seasons (in Washington)
Belichick 36-44 in Cleveland 5-11 first season 16-16 first TWO seasons (in NE)
Reid 5-11 First season 16-16 first two seasons
In an interesting comparison I offer the following:
George Seifert 98-30 with the Niners 16-32 with the Panthers
Tom Flores 83-53 with the Raiders 14-34 with the Seahawks
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All seasoned coaches, before they won Super Bowls. Not Green Kids.
Not sure what your point is. I agree coaches need time, to instill what they’re trying to instill. Looks like DA is getting a 2nd year…………….
January 10th, 2013 at 11:35 am
The_Judge37 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 10:23 am
486.DutchRaider77 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 10:19 am
Don’t get me wrong I am not a police supporter, but who are the people that end up being police?
Most people do not want to become Police officers because the job kinda sucks.
I wouldn’t want to do it…would you__________________________________________________
Not a bad question and it does have some serious answers but the point I’d like to make is the irony of the question.
We are all on a blog about the NFL, Thus, we care enough about the game and its players to be here. Presumably, a lot of people here love sports, played sports, and some, at least, must have entertained either real goals or fantasies at least about being an NFL player or maybe a successful high school or college football player.
First responses to those goals might be, “Hell, yea. Studs are respected by other guys and pursued by women, all the way from middle school to the pros. Plus, if a player ever gets to the pros, he’s in for big money.”
Yet, even w/out the present notoriety given to the shortened life span of NFL players, everyone, especially your mother who always knows what’s good and bad for her son,knew that football was bad for the body–that injured knees in a high school game would lead to arthritis before middle age, that busted limbs would led to early aging, that bangs in the head could NEVER, EVER be good for anyone. After all, even a dumb little kid learns that jumping off the roof of a house or out of a tree and landing on his head is not something he wants to repeat, yet that same kid, older but not wiser, keeps banging his head in that helmet up against other heads in a helmet.
Police work in much of America is unusally risky, dangerous proposition and so it’s entirely reasonable for others to ask, “Why do they do it,” but in other parts of America that job offers no greater statistical risk than that factory workers face. However, football, especially after a certain size has been attained by its participants, is an incredibly self-destructive endeavor, and one asks, “Why do they do it?”
January 10th, 2013 at 11:35 am
ok enough about 11 already, yes we were 8-8 but were not dominating 8-8 we were just half of our games could have gone either way 8-8 team, some of you like to talk about those 8-8 seasons like were so dominant, or we beat bunch of playoff teams, just one playoff team and that was houston out of those 2 years, not much to hang hat on
January 10th, 2013 at 11:35 am
way more options this time around compared to last year, Norv, Mularky, Pete Carmichael, I think Dallas will fire their coach as well , so Jason Garret is an interesting OC too, i’m pretty sure there are some names i’m forgetting some blog guys want to see as OC candidates
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Also a lot more openings this year with bigger name HC’s looking to fill their staff. We can only hope we land a Hue Jackson type who’s looking to snake DA’s job. That’s the only way we land a reputable OC.
January 10th, 2013 at 11:36 am
POST-579,WELL SAID..
January 10th, 2013 at 11:37 am
Judge
DKNIGHT
I admire your enthusiasm and I would love to be in the playoffs with simply the quick signing of a brillaint OC.
I really hope I am wrong about my 7-9 prediction for 2013 (with few injuries.)
No one is more of a Raider fan than I am.
I simply know and have seen too many people place far too much importance on schemes and coaching and Raiderettes and playing on the east coast etc etc.
If you do not believe me, perhaps you will believe Madden:
“It’s going to be structured around the personnel part and getting good players,” Madden said. “It’s all about players. We can talk about this thing and that thing and having good cheerleaders and all that. That’s all nice but you have to have players. If you have players, you’re probably going to win. If you don’t have players, you’re not going to win. … They’re going to go out and get the best players, and if they don’t have them, then they’re going to keep trying until they get them.”
January 10th, 2013 at 11:38 am
its just funny that everyone else is making moves but reggie mccheese is busy at the local pho kitchen…
January 10th, 2013 at 11:38 am
If we had a better OC than KNapp we could have probably gotten same record, the head coach was hired late january with no body to hire, so ofcourse he gave a call to his good golfing buddy, who happened to be on the same field (unfortunately for us) on seniors game weekend
January 10th, 2013 at 11:38 am
I think if Garrett does get fired, it will either be by weeks end or it probably won’t happen! Jerry already said that it was Rob Ryan’s D that was the problem…problem now gone!
January 10th, 2013 at 11:39 am
yeah even the texas instrument calculater says 8-8 is better than 4-12…but it could be wrong…has texas in its name…
January 10th, 2013 at 11:40 am
Charlie Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 11:37 am
Judge
DKNIGHT
I admire your enthusiasm and I would love to be in the playoffs with simply the quick signing of a brillaint OC.
I really hope I am wrong about my 7-9 prediction for 2013 (with few injuries.)
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At this point playoffs are well out of my realistic expectations. Just want improvement now, which shouldn’t be hard to do but this staff has proven through the course of this year that things most definetly can get worse.
January 10th, 2013 at 11:41 am
so charlie why did reggie spend so much effort changing the carpet and computers? orda changing the penalty issue?
January 10th, 2013 at 11:41 am
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 11:38 am
its just funny that everyone else is making moves but reggie mccheese is busy at the local pho kitchen…
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Or maybe their busy evaluating their team , something all teams do in offseason, and making a list of names they would interview for all the openings, compared to last year when they had no choice but hire anybody that’s just close to you (unfortunately it was G Knapp close to us and big name guys like Norv and mularky, carmichael weren’t available
January 10th, 2013 at 11:42 am
587.Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 11:38 am
its just funny that everyone else is making moves but reggie mccheese is busy at the local pho kitchen…
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We’re in a spot now similar to the Chargers. Where we don’t know how much inactivity is due to the GM, or due to a cheapskate owner.
January 10th, 2013 at 11:42 am
Marley
We were the most expensive 8-8 team in the history of the NFL.
Hue helped mortgage more of our future by picking up Palmer and paying little in 2011 passing on a massive hit in 2012 as well as the loss of high picks the next two years.
You think we go 8-8 in 2011 with Bollar?
Yes injuries are part of the game.
You ignore Dmac and Goodson simultaneously, Smith for Barnes etc. this year.
The complexity of cap issues, lack of picks and injuries seem to escape you.
Yea it must be bad coaching.
Ahh, 2011 the good old days.
January 10th, 2013 at 11:42 am
529.GG Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 10:52 am
AFC West keeps getting hotter, Raiders lagging behind
ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk
Arians interested in Chargers job with Tom Telesco there http://wp.me/p14QSB-6SV0
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Please explain how this is “lagging behind”. Last I checked, the Raiders had a GM and a head coach. The Chargers JUST HIRED a GM and they still don’t have a head coach, let alone a staff to go along with him.
January 10th, 2013 at 11:44 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 11:35 am
ok enough about 11 already, yes we were 8-8 but were not dominating 8-8 we were just half of our games could have gone either way 8-8 team, some of you like to talk about those 8-8 seasons like were so dominant, or we beat bunch of playoff teams, just one playoff team and that was houston out of those 2 years, not much to hang hat on
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Nobody ever said 8-8 was dominating. Just that it’s twice as good as 4-12. Smh.
January 10th, 2013 at 11:44 am
yes 11 > 12 but if they had to play each other I’m pretty sure it would be a close game , 12 would have little better D and little better in penalty department, 11 would have better O, i think 12 would lose by a FG due to Knapp
January 10th, 2013 at 11:47 am
actually 11s D was little bit better talentwise, not coaching wise, Wimbley was a better pass rusher , than anyone on 12 team, Seymour and Kelly were also year younger, rest of the team was same
January 10th, 2013 at 11:47 am
583.mcfadden20. Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 11:35 am
ok enough about 11 already, yes we were 8-8 but were not dominating 8-8 we were just half of our games could have gone either way 8-8 team, some of you like to talk about those 8-8 seasons like were so dominant, or we beat bunch of playoff teams, just one playoff team and that was houston out of those 2 years, not much to hang hat on
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Wow. Dominating our AFC West rivals is now a bad thing and playing better and improving football was a bad thing?
Cable and Hue are gone yes, but please don’t try and disrespect what they did for this team in 2010 and 2011.
They had this team going in the right direction and we finally saw some continuity to a certain extent and the players bought into it.
Davis and McK didn’t need to start ALL over. All McK needed to do was work on the cap and focus on fixing the defense.
No way McK and DA hire a strong personality experienced OC who will intimidate them.
They got rid of the passionate strong personality in Hue, so they will hire some inexperienced quite type as OC I think.
An experienced, passionate strong personality and creative play caller type is needed as OC though.
January 10th, 2013 at 11:48 am
8-8 ain’t good. But it was a **** hair from making the playoffs last year. 4-12 is an unmitigated disaster in comparison.
You can argue that the 8-8 record was a mirage, but two years of mirages doesn’t seem to hold any credibility of argument.
The new Reggime failed to execute their plan they envisioned for 2012. They performed miserably, and in a world where all you have is your track history, they lost a lot of credibility and leeway. It’s on them to start to make the right decisions and quickly turn this around or Mark Davis should do what he has to do and blow it all up and start over.
Whatever the reasons, excuse, alibis…don’t really matter. You inherited a 16-16 team the last 2 years and turned them into one of bottom three teams. Someone has to be accountable for that. I don’t believe in mulligans as some others do.
January 10th, 2013 at 11:48 am
Charlie.
I’m about done here but I wanted to say something else.
As you know, there are 3 units in football, Offense, Defense and Special Teams, it takes all 3 to make a winning team.
We just FIRED the guy in charge of the Offense and the guy in charge of Special Teams, that’s 2 out of the 3 units.
And we fired them after 1 season on the job.
What does that tell you about our Coaches performance in 2012?.
If, as you say it’s the talent, then why were Knapp and Hoffman not retained?.
Could it be because they did a terrible coaching job?.
Bad coaching, the biggest reason we reverted into one the least competitive teams in franchise history.
January 10th, 2013 at 11:49 am
Anybody on this list stand out to anybody?
Bears top 2 picks since 2004.
2012
DE Shea McClellin Boise State-did ok for rookie
WR Alshon Jeffery South Carolina-fair to middling
2011
OG Gabe Carimi Wisconsin-weak
DL Stephen Paea Oregon State-weak
2010
DB Major Wright Florida-decent yr.
DL Corey Wootton Northwestern-decent yr.
2009
DL Jarron Gilbert San Jose State from SEA-missing in action.
WR Juaquin Iglesias Oklahoma-out of league
2008
OL Chris Williams Vanderbilt-cut
RB Matt Forte Tulane-decent
2007
TE Greg Olsen Miami-carolina. doing so-so.
DL Dan Bazuin Central Michigan from SD-no idea
2006
DB Danieal Manning Abilene Christian-Texans now.
WR Devin Hester Miami-was good. not anymore
2005
RB Cedric Benson Texas-lame
WR Mark Bradley Oklahoma-who knows
2004
DL Tommie Harris Oklahoma -retired
DL Tank Johnson Washington-retired
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I guess maybe Devin Hester and Matt Forte as real good. Although Hester hasn’t done squat for past 2 seasons.
Poor-Below avg. drafting yet 10-6 last yr. with a QB that is statistically and otherwise inferior to ours.
Good defense with key players drafted prior to 2004: Briggs, Tillman and Urlacher.
January 10th, 2013 at 11:50 am
As Hue said….”NEXT MAN UP”
Great motto actually, except when it came to Boller being the starter during a playoff run. haha
January 10th, 2013 at 11:50 am
I think we could have fired the DC as well and it would have been no great loss. I bet there are going to be some promising DC hires we are passing up as the post season goes on.
January 10th, 2013 at 11:51 am
587.Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 11:38 am
its just funny that everyone else is making moves but reggie mccheese is busy at the local pho kitchen…
^^^^^^^^
Luv the Pho! lol
January 10th, 2013 at 11:52 am
602.Bob Marley Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 11:48 am
Charlie.
I’m about done here but I wanted to say something else.
As you know, there are 3 units in football, Offense, Defense and Special Teams, it takes all 3 to make a winning team.
We just FIRED the guy in charge of the Offense and the guy in charge of Special Teams, that’s 2 out of the 3 units.
And we fired them after 1 season on the job.
What does that tell you about our Coaches performance in 2012?.
If, as you say it’s the talent, then why were Knapp and Hoffman not retained?.
Could it be because they did a terrible coaching job?.
Bad coaching, the biggest reason we reverted into one the least competitive teams in franchise history.
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Ding Ding Ding Ding !!!! We have a winner. If Charlie disputes that, then he’s one of the four guys who recently got canned by Reggie. Sorry Charlie!
January 10th, 2013 at 11:52 am
604.DKnight007 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 11:50 am
As Hue said….”NEXT MAN UP”
Great motto actually, except when it came to Boller being the starter during a playoff run. haha
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My favorite was “Iron Sharpening Iron”
January 10th, 2013 at 11:53 am
Bob
I’d like to see the Raiders hire a smash-mouth OC, you?
January 10th, 2013 at 11:53 am
So how many wins could we had, if we still had Hue? maybe we could have beaten Cleveland, Car and SD in last 3 games? but you have to consider Hue’s record down the stretch, he couldn’t lead his team to wins with everything on line , so scrap that, would Hue’s O made a difference in opening game? 50/50, would he beaten Miami in Miami? We never do that, could he have knocked off P manning? I don’t think so due to our history of always losing to good QBs, we faced TB who at the time were hot , so maybe we could have went toe to toe against them that’s 50/50, would we have beaten Baltimore in Bal? nope, how about stopped drew brees at home? last time i checked we don’t beat good QB’s, how about super hot Cincy in Cincy? Nope,
January 10th, 2013 at 11:54 am
569.beach Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 11:27 am
I know some of you do not like to hear this, but it is the truth. Al Davis threw millions at players that had poor character. His drafting the last 10 years of his life are the worst in NFL history. This was no way to run a business in these times. We have a much brighter future with Al Davis no longer making player decisions.
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Al had many strengths, but the greatest flaw he possessed professionally, the one that kept him from winning once the league really changed, was his sycophantic love of athletes.
The more raw talent and althleticism he saw in them, the more he seemed to love them, need them, need to sign them, need to HAVE them, prove he could make them into something, be the kingmaker in their lives. It was like a fetish.
January 10th, 2013 at 11:55 am
Does anyone here really believe that Dennis Allen will turn the Raiders around? His history as a coach in the NFL does not give us any hope of a dramatic turnaround. I know Denver’s D got better under DA but that was due to the new talent ( see 2012 with Del Rio). With Mularkey just now being fired in JAX is there any hope that DA will still get canned? Look at the options out there now, I just can’t believe he has what it takes to get us back to the playoffs/ Super Bowl. Hope I’m wrong but I’ve got a bad feeling about DA.
January 10th, 2013 at 11:55 am
605.guest123 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 11:50 am
I think we could have fired the DC as well and it would have been no great loss. I bet there are going to be some promising DC hires we are passing up as the post season goes on.
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Jesus, if Tarver would have been fired, then what the hell would be the point to even keep Tits DA as the HC? lol
January 10th, 2013 at 11:55 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 11:53 am
So how many wins could we had, if we still had Hue?
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More than four.
January 10th, 2013 at 11:57 am
I am certainly not drawing the comparision, but for arguements sakes, Bellicheck DID take over a team that was .500(and in the playoffs the two previous years) the year before he went 5-11 in his first year in New England.
The next year they won the Super Bowl.
Best year ever!!!!
January 10th, 2013 at 11:57 am
Also have to understand the circumstances for Hue since so many are given for Allen. Hue wasn’t allowed to hire his own staff. Also was allowed to be the GM mid season. Can’t give any HC gm duties because it takes away from the Full time job that is being a Head coach, especially a Rookie HC. I’m not absolving Hue for not focusing on his job, but any HC would lose focus if they were allowed to tinker with the Roster unoppossed.
January 10th, 2013 at 11:57 am
I know Denver’s D got better under DA
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that Defense was ranked #20. big whoop.
January 10th, 2013 at 11:58 am
So if Hue was the coach still, would we have beaten P Manning atleast once? Miami in Miami? Baltimore in east coast ? Cincy in 10 Am game? stopped Drew Brees at home? stopped red-hot (at the time )TB team? maybe he might have beaten Browns and maybe SD once, which would have bumped our record to amazing 6-10, and drafting between 8-15 instead of at #3
January 10th, 2013 at 11:58 am
The_Judge37 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 11:57 am
Also have to understand the circumstances for Hue since so many are given for Allen. Hue wasn’t allowed to hire his own staff. Also was allowed to be the GM mid season. Can’t give any HC gm duties because it takes away from the Full time job that is being a Head coach, especially a Rookie HC. I’m not absolving Hue for not focusing on his job, but any HC would lose focus if they were allowed to tinker with the Roster unoppossed.
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There was nobody else but Hue. Al ran a one-man show, as you know.
January 10th, 2013 at 11:59 am
612.R8drinOK Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 11:55 am
Does anyone here really believe that Dennis Allen will turn the Raiders around? His history as a coach in the NFL does not give us any hope of a dramatic turnaround. I know Denver’s D got better under DA but that was due to the new talent ( see 2012 with Del Rio). With Mularkey just now being fired in JAX is there any hope that DA will still get canned? Look at the options out there now, I just can’t believe he has what it takes to get us back to the playoffs/ Super Bowl. Hope I’m wrong but I’ve got a bad feeling about DA.
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I have been saying this since DA was hired.
I really don’t think he is the answer as HC for the Raiders.
Waste of time. : (
January 10th, 2013 at 11:59 am
Bob Marley Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 11:48 am
Charlie.
I’m about done here but I wanted to say something else.
As you know, there are 3 units in football, Offense, Defense and Special Teams, it takes all 3 to make a winning team.
We just FIRED the guy in charge of the Offense and the guy in charge of Special Teams, that’s 2 out of the 3 units.
And we fired them after 1 season on the job.
What does that tell you about our Coaches performance in 2012?.
If, as you say it’s the talent, then why were Knapp and Hoffman not retained?.
Could it be because they did a terrible coaching job?.
Bad coaching, the biggest reason we reverted into one the least competitive teams in franchise history.
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Its amazing people still completely blame the talent. We were 8-8 in 2 straight seasons with the same talent. He hired a bunch of idiots and won 4. We have 8-8 talent plain and simple. Do we have enough talent to win the super bowl, absolutely not, do we have enough talent to make the playoffs…questionable. The talent obviously needs to get better, but the coaching on this team last year was just awful.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:00 pm
618.mcfadden20. Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 11:58 am
So if Hue was the coach still, would we have beaten P Manning atleast once? Miami in Miami? Baltimore in east coast ? Cincy in 10 Am game? stopped Drew Brees at home? stopped red-hot (at the time )TB team? maybe he might have beaten Browns and maybe SD once, which would have bumped our record to amazing 6-10, and drafting between 8-15 instead of at #3
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I’d trade DA for wins against SD and CLE. And drafting between 8-15 wouldn’t be so bad consider everyone is saying so n so is not worth #3 pick.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:00 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 11:57 am
I know Denver’s D got better under DA
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that Defense was ranked #20. big whoop.
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And they were also playing with FB posing as a QB, and giving that FB chances to show some heroics, it’s not like Tebow won those games in shootout style, the only reason he won was because of that D stopping the other team from scoring over Tebows range (over 20 points)
January 10th, 2013 at 12:00 pm
DA got a lot of credit for “improving” the Denver D to somewhere around 24th ranked or so. He leaves and the next year they are top 3 defense. So lets go back to the reason we hired the guy….
January 10th, 2013 at 12:01 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 11:57 am
Also have to understand the circumstances for Hue since so many are given for Allen. Hue wasn’t allowed to hire his own staff. Also was allowed to be the GM mid season. Can’t give any HC gm duties because it takes away from the Full time job that is being a Head coach, especially a Rookie HC. I’m not absolving Hue for not focusing on his job, but any HC would lose focus if they were allowed to tinker with the Roster unoppossed.
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People forget just how much adversity Hue had to deal with in his 1st year as head coach.
Would love to see Tits DA go through the same type of adversity and still have the team one game away from playoffs.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:01 pm
619.KoolKell Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 11:58 am
The_Judge37 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 11:57 am
Also have to understand the circumstances for Hue since so many are given for Allen. Hue wasn’t allowed to hire his own staff. Also was allowed to be the GM mid season. Can’t give any HC gm duties because it takes away from the Full time job that is being a Head coach, especially a Rookie HC. I’m not absolving Hue for not focusing on his job, but any HC would lose focus if they were allowed to tinker with the Roster unoppossed.
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There was nobody else but Hue. Al ran a one-man show, as you know.
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Plenty of other options, easist one was not allow him to make trades. Bring in someone temporary like promote a scout or something.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:02 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:00 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 11:57 am
I know Denver’s D got better under DA
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that Defense was ranked #20. big whoop.
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And they were also playing with FB posing as a QB, and giving that FB chances to show some heroics, it’s not like Tebow won those games in shootout style, the only reason he won was because of that D stopping the other team from scoring over Tebows range (over 20 points)
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We had the worst Defense in the franchise since 1961. There is no silver lining to our D’s performance last year. It was the worst since 1961, think about it..even worse than Chucky B from last year. Now thats bad.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:02 pm
with #3 pick they can trade down and, collect more picks in process compared to drafting in between 8-15 slot
January 10th, 2013 at 12:02 pm
Doesn’t seem we were ever improving with DA and I doubt that we ever will. I’m counting down the meaningless losses till Reggie saves his own backside and hires a real coach.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:04 pm
guest123 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:00 pm
DA got a lot of credit for “improving” the Denver D to somewhere around 24th ranked or so. He leaves and the next year they are top 3 defense. So lets go back to the reason we hired the guy….
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Look at their QB, big difference between Tim (3 n outs and score points on last drive only ) Tebow and P (I can keep the O on the field all day long and can score on any drive ) Manning
January 10th, 2013 at 12:04 pm
Like someone said earlier, our next OC hire will be critical as he’s likely going to take over for DA after we start 1-6 next year.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:06 pm
We were improving on D down the stretch, you can laugh at the competition we faced, but shutout is a shutout against KC, we held them to 119 yards , that’s less than Jamaal Charles game averages of 150 yards a game who was only held to 10 yards, O was just another story, which is why G Knapp isn’t here
January 10th, 2013 at 12:07 pm
627.rudegruden Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:02 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:00 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 11:57 am
I know Denver’s D got better under DA
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that Defense was ranked #20. big whoop.
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And they were also playing with FB posing as a QB, and giving that FB chances to show some heroics, it’s not like Tebow won those games in shootout style, the only reason he won was because of that D stopping the other team from scoring over Tebows range (over 20 points)
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We had the worst Defense in the franchise since 1961. There is no silver lining to our D’s performance last year. It was the worst since 1961, think about it..even worse than Chucky B from last year. Now thats bad.
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I know and I never would have thought the D would get that bad. Ugh
January 10th, 2013 at 12:08 pm
The Kansas City High Football team is not competition. Sorry. A shutout isn’t a shutout when they forgo at least 2 FG attempts trying to get back into the game.
Face the truth. If we don’t have KC in our division, we finish 2-14. Fact
January 10th, 2013 at 12:08 pm
You can say we regressed because of our O, and Hue was the coordinator who had a good QB and good RB in his fold, DA had who? Rich “i’m still elite” seymour cashing his last checks?
January 10th, 2013 at 12:08 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 11:57 am
I know Denver’s D got better under DA
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that Defense was ranked #20. big whoop.
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Agreed, so what makes DA so special that Reggie just had to hire him? I’m not seeing it…
January 10th, 2013 at 12:09 pm
We had the worst Defense in the franchise since 1961. There is no silver lining to our D’s performance last year. It was the worst since 1961, think about it..even worse than Chucky B from last year. Now thats bad.
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Now to put that into perspective. We jettison Chucky B but we save Tarver. WAT???
January 10th, 2013 at 12:09 pm
The coaches failed becuz they did not put the players WE DO HAVE in the best positions to be successful…period.
I don’t believe you slam a new system on somebody and force them to do things that aren’t their strength.
It will be a huge turnaround from last yr. for the better if they grasp onto that simple concept of playing to players strengths..i.e: Palmer, DMAC, Burris, etc.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:11 pm
guest123 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:08 pm
The Kansas City High Football team is not competition. Sorry. A shutout isn’t a shutout when they forgo at least 2 FG attempts trying to get back into the game.
Face the truth. If we don’t have KC in our division, we finish 2-14. Fact
– You can make the same case last year, if Rich doesn’t block the GW FG attempt by KC kicker we finish the season losing 6 straight, that’s after sitting at a pretty good position 7-3 at one time
January 10th, 2013 at 12:12 pm
631.guest123 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:04 pm
Like someone said earlier, our next OC hire will be critical as he’s likely going to take over for DA after we start 1-6 next year.
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Some might think this is a 3-5 yr. “re-build” but if we continue to suck, DA will be gone….period.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:13 pm
R8drinOK Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:08 pm
Agreed, so what makes DA so special that Reggie just had to hire him? I’m not seeing it…
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Me neither. But, looks like he’s got another year to show something.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:13 pm
It will be a huge turnaround from last yr. for the better if they grasp onto that simple concept of playing to players strengths..i.e: Palmer, DMAC, Burris, etc.
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Oh I agree. I see this, you see this. We all see this, right. But what evidence do we have that Reggie and DA see this or have learned their lesson?
January 10th, 2013 at 12:13 pm
the coaches who failed are gone, our O was really bad, now we will try with a guy who can put TDS on the scoreboard instead of FGs or 3 n outs, the D will be much better if we can get a guy who can rush the passer, I mean come on guys who could have done better with Shaugnessy and Houston as ur pass rushers? Burris (Rookie) McClain( F8ck Ya’all) Wheeler, if he was good , he would have signed a long term deal , and then you have Branch who got paid and decided to sleep walk on the field
January 10th, 2013 at 12:14 pm
634.guest123 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:08 pm
The Kansas City High Football team is not competition. Sorry. A shutout isn’t a shutout when they forgo at least 2 FG attempts trying to get back into the game.
Face the truth. If we don’t have KC in our division, we finish 2-14. Fact
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Exactly! Oooff!
January 10th, 2013 at 12:15 pm
guest123 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:00 pm
DA got a lot of credit for “improving” the Denver D to somewhere around 24th ranked or so. He leaves and the next year they are top 3 defense. So lets go back to the reason we hired the guy….
But you also have to remember…the best Defense is a good offense…Peyton is a real qb compared to Tebow!
January 10th, 2013 at 12:15 pm
guest123 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:13 pm
It will be a huge turnaround from last yr. for the better if they grasp onto that simple concept of playing to players strengths..i.e: Palmer, DMAC, Burris, etc.
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Oh I agree. I see this, you see this. We all see this, right. But what evidence do we have that Reggie and DA see this or have learned their lesson?
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Lets wait for the OC hire, if the O s8cks again then we may need to get a new coach next year
January 10th, 2013 at 12:15 pm
639.mcfadden20. Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:11 pm
guest123 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:08 pm
The Kansas City High Football team is not competition. Sorry. A shutout isn’t a shutout when they forgo at least 2 FG attempts trying to get back into the game.
Face the truth. If we don’t have KC in our division, we finish 2-14. Fact
– You can make the same case last year, if Rich doesn’t block the GW FG attempt by KC kicker we finish the season losing 6 straight, that’s after sitting at a pretty good position 7-3 at one time
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It goes both ways. IF we don’t let Buffalo score TD’s on EVERY 2nd half possession we win. IF our D stops Detroit on a 99 yd. drive we win that game.
I think 8-8 is what we were.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:15 pm
640.DJ Johnny Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:12 pm
631.guest123 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:04 pm
Like someone said earlier, our next OC hire will be critical as he’s likely going to take over for DA after we start 1-6 next year.
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Some might think this is a 3-5 yr. “re-build” but if we continue to suck, DA will be gone….period.
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4-5 wins is not going to cut for Tits DA next year.
I think he needs to win 7 games to keep his job.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:16 pm
Is it stubbornness or stupidity? or a combo of both? Stats don’t lie. 4-12, huge regression of a once good offense and historic bad defense. But the HC and DC get a pass. Why?
January 10th, 2013 at 12:16 pm
hwnrdr Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:15 pm
guest123 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:00 pm
DA got a lot of credit for “improving” the Denver D to somewhere around 24th ranked or so. He leaves and the next year they are top 3 defense. So lets go back to the reason we hired the guy….
But you also have to remember…the best Defense is a good offense…Peyton is a real qb compared to Tebow!
– Exactly , it’s impressive they weren’t 32nd ranked D with a guy going 3 n outs all day long and putting them in bad field position
January 10th, 2013 at 12:16 pm
why doesnt mccheese see this? i mean everyone everyone but a few delusional bloggers knew knapp was krapp and they fired him after a wasted season…now DA? Why the fvck does reggie want to keep banging his head against thr wall? makes me sick!
January 10th, 2013 at 12:17 pm
We have an opportunity to correct one of the great wrongs in the history of the Raiders. Gruden keeps saying he is open to returning to coaching ‘for the right job’. Where could that be out of teams that need a coach or are bottom dwellers? Why did he light the torch dedicated to the guy who traded him? Gruden has unfinished business in Oakland. Why wait…The AFC west is getting strong again and we are stuck with DA.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:18 pm
Head coach should get a pass n should get a chance with a better OC, and he should get a chance to bring players on his side of expertise, you want to fire him , because he couldn’t lead the scrubs on our D anywhere?
January 10th, 2013 at 12:18 pm
649.guest123 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:16 pm
Is it stubbornness or stupidity? or a combo of both? Stats don’t lie. 4-12, huge regression of a once good offense and historic bad defense. But the HC and DC get a pass. Why?
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Two SAD reasons:
1. Reggie wants to give “his” guy a 2nd chance
2. For “continuitys” sake (even though Hue should have been given a year two chance, not Tits DA)
January 10th, 2013 at 12:19 pm
gruden wants/needs to come to oakland but mccheese might have as big an ego as al used to if not worse…at least al had success a few times.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:19 pm
Its amazing people still completely blame the talent. We were 8-8 in 2 straight seasons with the same talent. He hired a bunch of idiots and won 4. We have 8-8 talent plain and simple. Do we have enough talent to win the super bowl, absolutely not, do we have enough talent to make the playoffs…questionable. The talent obviously needs to get better, but the coaching on this team last year was just awful.
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There is a lot of truth to this, and everyone knew the defense was going to stink, but nobody thought the offense that looked so prolific last year with a healthy McF and a mediocre Campbell, would look so inept with CP and a full season under his belt.
The “Knapp factor” has got to be factored into this. He was given the keys to the offense. Allen had his hands full trying to straighten out the defense and get the penalty situation under control.
If our offense was anywhere close to what it was when McF was nearly leading he league in rushing, we almost certainly would have been 8-8 again.
The fault belongs with Knapp. Yes, Allen was moronic enough to hire him, but as a greenhorn, he didn’t have many contacts to rely on.
Excuses? Sure.. but as FANS this is what we have to rely on… blind faith that Allen and McK were the right hires.
We shall see with this off-season. A prolific hire as OC, and hitting the FA market and draft out of the park will quell all this hand-wringing!
January 10th, 2013 at 12:20 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:16 pm
why doesnt mccheese see this? i mean everyone everyone but a few delusional bloggers knew knapp was krapp and they fired him after a wasted season…now DA? Why the fvck does reggie want to keep banging his head against thr wall? makes me sick!
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What’s so wrong with DA? yes he made a bad hiring , but who else was available when he was hired?He’s a freakin D minded coach who was saddled with bunch of losers on his side, you think Hue would have done sh1t without a good RB? Come on man, think with your head
January 10th, 2013 at 12:22 pm
the hand-wringing will continue until DA is fired.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:22 pm
653.mcfadden20. Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:18 pm
Head coach should get a pass n should get a chance with a better OC, and he should get a chance to bring players on his side of expertise, you want to fire him , because he couldn’t lead the scrubs on our D anywhere?
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I want to him gone, because:
1. he should have never been hired in the 1st place
2. the dummy changes the O and then makes the problem worse by hiring one of the OC/Playcallers of all time in Knapp
3. the D (his expertise) showed ZERO improvment from Chuck B’s lousy D.
4. The team didn’t follow him and seemed to be turned off from the very beginning.
5. His is not the one to lead the Raiders into the promised land.
6. the team has no identity with him as HC.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:23 pm
DKnight007 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:18 pm
649.guest123 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:16 pm
Is it stubbornness or stupidity? or a combo of both? Stats don’t lie. 4-12, huge regression of a once good offense and historic bad defense. But the HC and DC get a pass. Why?
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Two SAD reasons:
1. Reggie wants to give “his” guy a 2nd chance
2. For “continuitys” sake (even though Hue should have been given a year two chance, not Tits DA)
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You can’t compare Hue and DA, Hue was O coach, handed keys to 2 time heisman runner in college, Mcfadden, and decent play makers, DA is D coach handed keys to bunch of scrubs who couldn’t even force 1 punt in week 17 with everything on line,
January 10th, 2013 at 12:23 pm
R8drinOK Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:17 pm
We have an opportunity to correct one of the great wrongs in the history of the Raiders. Gruden keeps saying he is open to returning to coaching ‘for the right job’.
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I love Gruden, but I think he is just addicted to the attention he gets by being considered for HCing jobs.
I think he is like Madden… HCing was tearing him apart.
He will be a broadcaster until he retires… same as Madden. Its a great gig.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:25 pm
I think it was a rookie mistake by Reggie as his first year on the job to hand over all hiring decisions to a rookie green first time head coach. Reggie should have known better that it would be a disaster. He should have saved DA from himself by being a little heavyhanded in the hiring process. Maybe bring in some outside consultants. We needed to hit on the coaching hires and they needed to be inspired decisions. But we just got what was available on the market. Always beware of what’s available on the market because those guys are avaiable for a reason.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:25 pm
504
Marley
You miss my point.
Great. Let’s say we have Hue back as OC in 2012 and instead of 4-12 we go 7-9????? (I don’t think so with our injuries but let’s say that happens).
BFD.
I am talking about getting to the playoffs!!!!
Our roster talent is so far below the NFL average that coaching NOW is the least of our problems.
I am simply saying that roster talent and the complicating factors of injuries, cap issues, lack of picks and poor drafts for the last ten years are 90% of the problem.
The OC issue is a pimple on a gnat’s a$$.
I will repeat it for as long as it takes.
You guys continue to ignore the INJURIES WE HAD IN 2012.
(That was probably the fault of the strength and conditioning coach).
“It’s going to be structured around the personnel part and getting good players,” Madden said. “It’s all about players. We can talk about this thing and that thing and having good cheerleaders and all that. That’s all nice but you have to have players. If you have players, you’re probably going to win. If you don’t have players, you’re not going to win. … They’re going to go out and get the best players, and if they don’t have them, then they’re going to keep trying until they get them.”
Hue loses four out of his last five and was fired.
I thought it was a mistake because of what I have been saying.
Coaching is a very small piece of our problem.
Same with Cable. Coaching is a small part of the problem.
Same with Norv. Coaching is a small part of the problem.
Same with Shell. Coaching is a small part of the problem.
Same with Lance. Coaching is a small part of the problem.
Same with Callahan. Coaching is a small part of the problem.
See the pattern?
I believe the saying goes something like; insanity is defined as continuing to do the same thing over and over again expecting different results.
Have you been paying attention the last ten years?
Let’s focus on the big problem of getting better players.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:25 pm
639.mcfadden20. Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:11 pm
guest123 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:08 pm
The Kansas City High Football team is not competition. Sorry. A shutout isn’t a shutout when they forgo at least 2 FG attempts trying to get back into the game.
Face the truth. If we don’t have KC in our division, we finish 2-14. Fact
– You can make the same case last year, if Rich doesn’t block the GW FG attempt by KC kicker we finish the season losing 6 straight, that’s after sitting at a pretty good position 7-3 at one time
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Interesting how some you in here prefer ugly lopsided losses ahead of being competitive and earning wins and playing exciting inspired football.
WTF has happened to some of the Raider Nation?
January 10th, 2013 at 12:27 pm
my problem with DA is 4-12…4-12 playing sissy 49er/texan/donkey ball…even the whiners dont play that sh!t anymore..if it was 4-12 but the teams fought ok not great but ok…this idiot doghouses all his players and plays his yes men…fvck that puto.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:28 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:20 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:16 pm
why doesnt mccheese see this? i mean everyone everyone but a few delusional bloggers knew knapp was krapp and they fired him after a wasted season…now DA? Why the fvck does reggie want to keep banging his head against thr wall? makes me sick!
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What’s so wrong with DA? yes he made a bad hiring , but who else was available when he was hired?He’s a freakin D minded coach who was saddled with bunch of losers on his side, you think Hue would have done sh1t without a good RB? Come on man, think with your head
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I think it’s the stubborn refusal to correct the trainwreck that Knapp was running when we had the opportunity to do so. With a seasoned OC Saunders (who DA said he spoke with first about the position)on staff ready to go. Knapp even changed his blocking scheme to include power plays late in the season. I think DA is full of himself and could not admit he screwed up with the hiring of Knapp.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:28 pm
When it comes to the big picture it’s just a waste of time with DA being the Raider head coach.
He will be gone after next season anyhow.
His only hope is to hire a REAL OC/Playcaller who knows what the hell he is doing with the talent he has.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:28 pm
DKnight007 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:22 pm
653.mcfadden20. Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:18 pm
Head coach should get a pass n should get a chance with a better OC, and he should get a chance to bring players on his side of expertise, you want to fire him , because he couldn’t lead the scrubs on our D anywhere?
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I want to him gone, because:
1. he should have never been hired in the 1st place
2. the dummy changes the O and then makes the problem worse by hiring one of the OC/Playcallers of all time in Knapp
3. the D (his expertise) showed ZERO improvment from Chuck B’s lousy D.
4. The team didn’t follow him and seemed to be turned off from the very beginning.
5. His is not the one to lead the Raiders into the promised land.
6. the team has no identity with him as HC.
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1. Who was the better option and which guy should we have brought?
2. who else was available, and if he was good why would he be availabe late jan/early feb?
3. how could he have made those guys better, you have 2 aging DT’s who are ready to retire, who else he have, that he could have rode that guys coat tails and become good, he finished #20 in Den with tim freakin tebow as their qb, give him some players, you will see his D shutdown teams,
4. if the team didn’t follow him and was turned off from beginning, why did the team played hard for him in late stretches, Hue couldn’t get his team to play hard with playoffs on line
5. How do you know he’s not the right one?
6. what kinda identity are you looking for , he’s D minded coach who took over a D which couldn’t force 1 punt in very important game, how could he have turned that around in 1 year?
January 10th, 2013 at 12:30 pm
666.R8drinOK Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:28 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:20 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:16 pm
why doesnt mccheese see this? i mean everyone everyone but a few delusional bloggers knew knapp was krapp and they fired him after a wasted season…now DA? Why the fvck does reggie want to keep banging his head against thr wall? makes me sick!
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What’s so wrong with DA? yes he made a bad hiring , but who else was available when he was hired?He’s a freakin D minded coach who was saddled with bunch of losers on his side, you think Hue would have done sh1t without a good RB? Come on man, think with your head
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I think it’s the stubborn refusal to correct the trainwreck that Knapp was running when we had the opportunity to do so. With a seasoned OC Saunders (who DA said he spoke with first about the position)on staff ready to go. Knapp even changed his blocking scheme to include power plays late in the season. I think DA is full of himself and could not admit he screwed up with the hiring of Knapp.
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McK and DA “admitted” they screwed up by firing Knapp, Pollack and Hoffman.
That’s the only way they could admit to it, without hurting their stubborn egos.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:31 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:28 pm
DKnight007 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:22 pm
653.mcfadden20. Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:18 pm
Head coach should get a pass n should get a chance with a better OC, and he should get a chance to bring players on his side of expertise, you want to fire him , because he couldn’t lead the scrubs on our D anywhere?
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I want to him gone, because:
1. he should have never been hired in the 1st place
2. the dummy changes the O and then makes the problem worse by hiring one of the OC/Playcallers of all time in Knapp
3. the D (his expertise) showed ZERO improvment from Chuck B’s lousy D.
4. The team didn’t follow him and seemed to be turned off from the very beginning.
5. His is not the one to lead the Raiders into the promised land.
6. the team has no identity with him as HC.
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1. Who was the better option and which guy should we have brought?
2. who else was available, and if he was good why would he be availabe late jan/early feb?
3. how could he have made those guys better, you have 2 aging DT’s who are ready to retire, who else he have, that he could have rode that guys coat tails and become good, he finished #20 in Den with tim freakin tebow as their qb, give him some players, you will see his D shutdown teams,
4. if the team didn’t follow him and was turned off from beginning, why did the team played hard for him in late stretches, Hue couldn’t get his team to play hard with playoffs on line
5. How do you know he’s not the right one?
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Hmm..how do you know he IS the right one?
What has he shown you?
January 10th, 2013 at 12:32 pm
Hue was handed keys to Darren F8Kcin Mcfadden 2 time heisman runner up in college, # 4 overall pick, DA was given keys to broke down (Seymour? aging Kelly? Houston and Shaughnessy (coming off major injury) as his primary pass rushers? 6th round rookie, jamarcus russell of D? wheeler, coming off major injury Cbs, Gio? Come on guys , unfair comparisons
January 10th, 2013 at 12:34 pm
“Losing is not something you got used to in Oakland, under no circumstance.” Gene Upshaw- America’s Game 1980 Raiders
The players, coaches, the organization has forgotten this in the last 10+ years.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:34 pm
665.Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:27 pm
my problem with DA is 4-12…4-12 playing sissy 49er/texan/donkey ball…even the whiners dont play that sh!t anymore..if it was 4-12 but the teams fought ok not great but ok…this idiot doghouses all his players and plays his yes men…fvck that puto.
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Exactly! Even the Niners don’t play that kind of ball on O anymore.
It would have been great to hire Harbaugh as HC and I was screaming about back in 2009.
Al was to cheap.
Mark is going to have to learn from his dads mistakes, and if he wants to win, he needs to pay good coaches to come here and not be cheap.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:34 pm
Hmm..how do you know he IS the right one?
What has he shown you?
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He has shown me he can fire the team up to play hard, his D played hard down the stretch , which tells me if he’s given a couple of good players, then he can really make our D respectable , he fired Knapp right after the game, and he knew it was bad hire , that is why he’s taking some time, he will bring us a Legit OC
January 10th, 2013 at 12:35 pm
I’m tired of this bullcrap.
Let’s talk when the new OC is hired and hope he is the right choice.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:35 pm
then blame mccheese too…i do.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:36 pm
Same with Cable. Coaching is a small part of the problem.
Same with Norv. Coaching is a small part of the problem.
Same with Shell. Coaching is a small part of the problem.
Same with Lance. Coaching is a small part of the problem.
Same with Callahan. Coaching is a small part of the problem.
See the pattern?
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Yes. The pattern is none of these guys got more than 2 years to prove himself. The pattern is the Raider maniacally keep firing their HCs thus we are either stuck with GREENHORNS or RETREADS.
How do you expect the Raiders to attract top notch coaching talent if we continue to fire head coaches without giving them a chance to prove themselves?
Good gawd guys… Allen should be our coach for a MINIMUM of three years. For better or for worse.
Why? Because if he doesn’t work out we can maybe bring in someone besides a GREENHORN or a RETREAD!
The coaching carousel ended with Al. Why any of you want to continue his WORST trait is beyond me.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:37 pm
The talent argument is pretty overblown. It almost discounts coaching to nothing and that is clearly not the case. Good coaching can make an average roster into a playoff caliber team.
On any team, there are 3 to 5 stars that are difference makers, the playoff teams have 5-8 star players and the elites have 10-12 stars. Everyone else on every team is an avg joe interchangable parts that have little incremental value.
So I agree that you need talent, but not that much. You need to be able to coach up the other 45 or so nonstar players to get your team to playoff ready caliber. Too much is made of the lack of talent. It’s there, maybe not enough to compete for the SB, but certainly it’s enough to compete for the playoffs right now. But stupid coaching is holding the entire team back.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:37 pm
hindsight is always 20/20 , its easy to say Harbaugh this n that, Yes with a better O we might have won a couple of games, n if DA was Offensive coach, i would have been the first in line asking the team to fire him, but he’s not O coach, he made a bad hire, n when your looking for coaches late in jan or early feb you’re only going to get trash, which we got with KNapp, now they got pretty good coaches available to right that side, and DA will get some playmaker with #3 pick on D side and some good players in FA
January 10th, 2013 at 12:39 pm
DKnight007 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:35 pm
I’m tired of this bullcrap.
Let’s talk when the new OC is hired and hope he is the right choice.
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LOL, I hear ya…it’s maddening to try and figure out what the he11 is going on in Raiderland these days.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:40 pm
Charlie.
Better get a hold of Reggie and DA soon, they may still have a shot to re-hire Knapp and Hoffman, being that the problem is the players and not the Coaching, as you claim.
Truth is, your beloved DA diagrees with you, hence the firing of the OC and ST’s Coach, 1 year after their hiring.
As somebody else said it, this team has 8 win talent or at least had until DA got his hands on it, a good Coach would maximize the talent and get you 8-9 wins, an inexperienced and so far bad coach, will get you 4 while facing a cakewalk schedule.
We do need better players at a number of positions, but we need better coaching all around.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:41 pm
The talent level is not as depleted as some in here will claim. No way should this team be around 4-12. With competent coaching, we should at least be 7-9 last yr. We didn’t lose that many significant pieces to slide off that far (Bush, Kam, Routt) No reason to underperform with the talent we had and the promise of a full season of CP3 and DMAC together for the first time this year. If anything, the outlook going into the season was rosy. But stupid coaching killed it.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:41 pm
Too early to judge DA, if you want him to be fired because over his OC hiring , that’s kinda stupid, i mean it wasn’t like good coaches are available year around waiting for phone calls, they only had trash to pick from, and DA went with the trash he was familiar with LOL
January 10th, 2013 at 12:42 pm
For as bad as Knapp was, you cannot pin all 12 losses on him.
THis team only came out prepared to play in two games, Steelers & Falcons. 1-1 in those games. The other 14 games they were ill prepared and came out flat. That’s on the HEAD COACH.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:44 pm
Coaching is the problem as well, n we regressed because of bad coaching hire on O side, but it was the whole team’s fault , Mark Davis should have hired Reg fast and he should have hired a coach fast so that coach could have had enough time to go over the team and think about who to hire, i mean hires someone in late jan is crazy , give your coaching staff some time so they can help themselves
January 10th, 2013 at 12:45 pm
hiring*
January 10th, 2013 at 12:47 pm
Charlie.
I gotta go now, but I will leave you with this, one of many of my posts that you failed to directly respond to.
Oh and a nice compliment by Rudegruden.
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Bob Marley Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 11:48 am
Charlie.
I’m about done here but I wanted to say something else.
As you know, there are 3 units in football, Offense, Defense and Special Teams, it takes all 3 to make a winning team.
We just FIRED the guy in charge of the Offense and the guy in charge of Special Teams, that’s 2 out of the 3 units.
And we fired them after 1 season on the job.
What does that tell you about our Coaches performance in 2012?.
If, as you say it’s the talent, then why were Knapp and Hoffman not retained?.
Could it be because they did a terrible coaching job?.
Bad coaching, the biggest reason we reverted into one the least competitive teams in franchise history.
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Rudegruden says:
Its amazing people still completely blame the talent. We were 8-8 in 2 straight seasons with the same talent. He hired a bunch of idiots and won 4. We have 8-8 talent plain and simple. Do we have enough talent to win the super bowl, absolutely not, do we have enough talent to make the playoffs…questionable. The talent obviously needs to get better, but the coaching on this team last year was just awful.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:48 pm
He was a rookie coach and made mistake in his hiring i mean, he wasn’t helped by the management either, if he was hired earlier maybe he could have thought about things like which guy to hire and stuff,instead of just calling his golf buddy, , but he did had the team playing better down the stretch than earlier in the year, i will take that over going 1-5 down the stretch with playoffs on the line any day of the week
January 10th, 2013 at 12:48 pm
R8drinOK Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:39 pm
DKnight007 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:35 pm
I’m tired of this bullcrap.
Let’s talk when the new OC is hired and hope he is the right choice.
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LOL, I hear ya…it’s maddening to try and figure out what the he11 is going on in Raiderland these days.
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These days?
LOL.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:48 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:42 pm
For as bad as Knapp was, you cannot pin all 12 losses on him.
THis team only came out prepared to play in two games, Steelers & Falcons. 1-1 in those games. The other 14 games they were ill prepared and came out flat. That’s on the HEAD COACH.
So the solution is to fire him and bring in another GREENHORN or RETREAD.
Then repeat after that doesn’t work next season… then the next then the next.
No thank you.
We pushed all our chips in DA’s corner. Its time to patiently see what he does with them.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:49 pm
Love it…F it, lets fire everybody! I did not see them coming out flat in the last 3 games…I don’t care what anyone says, you really t hink KC was trying to lose? Who cares if they should have kicked the FG to make it 15-6!!! Even in the Denver game, the D stopped Manning 3 times in the red zone with one INt and 2 fgs…
Bottom line, lets see who the OC will be and the offseason (FA’s and draft)
January 10th, 2013 at 12:50 pm
You put 1, just 1 good pass rusher on this team and we win 7-8 games.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:50 pm
688.mcfadden20. Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:48 pm
He was a rookie coach and made mistake in his hiring i mean, he wasn’t helped by the management either, if he was hired earlier maybe he could have thought about things like which guy to hire and stuff,instead of just calling his golf buddy, , but he did had the team playing better down the stretch than earlier in the year, i will take that over going 1-5 down the stretch with playoffs on the line any day of the week
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Again, you’re blaming all 12 losses on the offense. What about the 4 game stretch where we were blown out by record setting points?
January 10th, 2013 at 12:51 pm
680.R8drinOK Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:39 pm
DKnight007 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:35 pm
I’m tired of this bullcrap.
Let’s talk when the new OC is hired and hope he is the right choice.
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LOL, I hear ya…it’s maddening to try and figure out what the he11 is going on in Raiderland these days.
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It is maddening and its a joke really
They decide to keep a greenhorn Donkey coach like DA for 2-3 years, instead of Hue for sake of continuity?
It’s mind boggling.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:51 pm
DA should be given a decent chance with better players on his side of expertise n he should not have any excuses for hiring anybody bad this year, enough time to evaluate the O and bring in guys to interview, yes Knapp s8cked but we should be happy cuz we got #3 pick and a guy who could be cornerstone of our team for next 10 years instead of lesser talent guy in picks 8-15
January 10th, 2013 at 12:51 pm
690.Gdog Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:48 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:42 pm
For as bad as Knapp was, you cannot pin all 12 losses on him.
THis team only came out prepared to play in two games, Steelers & Falcons. 1-1 in those games. The other 14 games they were ill prepared and came out flat. That’s on the HEAD COACH.
So the solution is to fire him and bring in another GREENHORN or RETREAD.
Then repeat after that doesn’t work next season… then the next then the next.
No thank you.
We pushed all our chips in DA’s corner. Its time to patiently see what he does with them.
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Yes, until you get some margin of improvement from one of the canidates.
It’s simple, show improvement and we’ll show patience.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:51 pm
692.DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:50 pm
You put 1, just 1 good pass rusher on this team and we win 7-8 games.
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Jesus. That is a REACH!
January 10th, 2013 at 12:52 pm
Everyone has their opinions, and it is not worth arguing opinions, because that is exactly what they are…opinions! Nothing, I mean nothing we can do about this year! The 3 coaches I wanted fired have been and faster than any other offseason…lets just see who our OC is…
January 10th, 2013 at 12:52 pm
692.DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:50 pm
You put 1, just 1 good pass rusher on this team and we win 7-8 games.
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It goes way deeper than just one pass rusher.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:54 pm
DKnight007 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:51 pm
692.DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:50 pm
You put 1, just 1 good pass rusher on this team and we win 7-8 games.
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Jesus. That is a REACH!
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TB, CLE & the last SD game.
Easy money.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:54 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:50 pm
688.mcfadden20. Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:48 pm
He was a rookie coach and made mistake in his hiring i mean, he wasn’t helped by the management either, if he was hired earlier maybe he could have thought about things like which guy to hire and stuff,instead of just calling his golf buddy, , but he did had the team playing better down the stretch than earlier in the year, i will take that over going 1-5 down the stretch with playoffs on the line any day of the week
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Again, you’re blaming all 12 losses on the offense. What about the 4 game stretch where we were blown out by record setting points?
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I’m not blaming all on the O, I’m blaming it on the whole team and telling you that O should have scored more, and as far as the D goes, what could you have expected from that squad? we don’t have any pass rusher on the team, qbs have all day throwing even on 3rd and longs, you can’t blitz on every down either
January 10th, 2013 at 12:54 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:48 pm
R8drinOK Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:39 pm
DKnight007 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:35 pm
I’m tired of this bullcrap.
Let’s talk when the new OC is hired and hope he is the right choice.
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LOL, I hear ya…it’s maddening to try and figure out what the he11 is going on in Raiderland these days.
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These days?
LOL.
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Good point but Al was over 80 yrs old and his best years were behind him. What’s Reggie and DA’s excuse?
January 10th, 2013 at 12:55 pm
700.DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:54 pm
DKnight007 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:51 pm
692.DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:50 pm
You put 1, just 1 good pass rusher on this team and we win 7-8 games.
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Jesus. That is a REACH!
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TB, CLE & the last SD game.
Easy money.
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How’s a pass rusher going to stop Doug Martin for rushing for 240+ Yards?
January 10th, 2013 at 12:55 pm
R8drinOK Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:54 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:48 pm
R8drinOK Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:39 pm
DKnight007 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:35 pm
I’m tired of this bullcrap.
Let’s talk when the new OC is hired and hope he is the right choice.
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LOL, I hear ya…it’s maddening to try and figure out what the he11 is going on in Raiderland these days.
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These days?
LOL.
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Good point but Al was over 80 yrs old and his best years were behind him. What’s Reggie and DA’s excuse?
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You dont need an excuse 1 year into a job.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:56 pm
DA and Tarver will do great things, if they can get a playmaker on their side, n the team can do way better with a better OC, but let’s not get way too ahead, we still need a #1 receiver, and better RT
January 10th, 2013 at 12:57 pm
I’m not blaming all on the O, I’m blaming it on the whole team and telling you that O should have scored more, and as far as the D goes, what could you have expected from that squad? we don’t have any pass rusher on the team, qbs have all day throwing even on 3rd and longs, you can’t blitz on every down either
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Sure, you’re blaming it on the whole team, except for DA and Tarver.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:59 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:55 pm
700.DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:54 pm
DKnight007 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:51 pm
692.DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:50 pm
You put 1, just 1 good pass rusher on this team and we win 7-8 games.
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Jesus. That is a REACH!
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TB, CLE & the last SD game.
Easy money.
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How’s a pass rusher going to stop Doug Martin for rushing for 240+ Yards?
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We scored 32. Martin accounted for 28 points.
The pass rusher, doesnt give Freeman all day to torch throw for 250 & 2 TDs.
In a game where a RB ran for 200+, 250 passing yards is way too much.
January 10th, 2013 at 12:59 pm
we went 1-8 over the second half!…wtf? whats 1-5?
January 10th, 2013 at 1:00 pm
If we’re going to grade 1st year coaches soley on the last 4 games of the season, then both Hue and DA were 1-4.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:00 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:57 pm
I’m not blaming all on the O, I’m blaming it on the whole team and telling you that O should have scored more, and as far as the D goes, what could you have expected from that squad? we don’t have any pass rusher on the team, qbs have all day throwing even on 3rd and longs, you can’t blitz on every down either
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Sure, you’re blaming it on the whole team, except for DA and Tarver.
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I am blaming DA for hiring Knapp , Tarver was saddled with losers who couldn’t force a punt in must win game, so you can’t judge him until he got some decent players on that side
January 10th, 2013 at 1:01 pm
If you formulate you opinion on a coaches ability after his first year in the league, I have no further commentary with you on the subject.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:01 pm
And they were also playing with FB posing as a QB, and giving that FB chances to show some heroics, it’s not like Tebow won those games in shootout style, the only reason he won was because of that D stopping the other team from scoring over Tebows range (over 20 points)
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Stop with your Agenda. If it wasnt for TEBOW .. Dennis Allen would still be coaching in Denver. Tebow helped get DA a coaching job.
They were 1-4 before Tebow came to the team. Tebow helped control the game and soak up TOS for the team giving Denver D’s rest. B4 tebow the D looked horrible.
Hue Jax coached circles around DA’s Defense. Even with Palmer being here for 5 days .. ya they lost the 2nd denver game but go look how Denvers D looked.
Denver D is better this year without DA
January 10th, 2013 at 1:02 pm
You put 1, just 1 good pass rusher on this team and we win 7-8 games.
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Draft the german Werner. Problem solved!
January 10th, 2013 at 1:02 pm
I am blaming DA for hiring Knapp , Tarver was saddled with losers who couldn’t force a punt in must win game, so you can’t judge him until he got some decent players on that side
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What about blaming DA for not having his team prepared in 14 out of 16 games?
January 10th, 2013 at 1:02 pm
DAs team played hard and much better down the stretch with nothing to play for , Hue went down 34-0 in consecutive games and was embarrassed many times with playoffs on line, Give DA some play makers like Hue had Mcfadden and Palmer, give DA some legit Pass rusher and decent secondary, then we will talk
January 10th, 2013 at 1:03 pm
guest123 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:02 pm
You put 1, just 1 good pass rusher on this team and we win 7-8 games.
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Draft the german Werner. Problem solved!
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Mingo > Werner
January 10th, 2013 at 1:03 pm
Afternoon, all.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:03 pm
Werener is the next Tyler Brayton
January 10th, 2013 at 1:04 pm
Love it…F it, lets fire everybody!
^^^
that’s the spirit!
January 10th, 2013 at 1:04 pm
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 10:23 am
FCK Y’ALL.
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To ALL the Raiders first round draft busts……………..”FCK Y’ALL. You’re corrupt. You’re terrible.”
January 10th, 2013 at 1:04 pm
A great OC would be hue jackson for this team. Would ahve been much better to find a DC.
Even Tom Cable would be a better HC at this point for the RAIDERS
January 10th, 2013 at 1:04 pm
Barkevious Mingo will be an all pro.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:04 pm
691.hwnrdr Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:49 pm
Love it…F it, lets fire everybody! I did not see them coming out flat in the last 3 games…I don’t care what anyone says, you really t hink KC was trying to lose? Who cares if they should have kicked the FG to make it 15-6!!! Even in the Denver game, the D stopped Manning 3 times in the red zone with one INt and 2 fgs…
Bottom line, lets see who the OC will be and the offseason (FA’s and draft)
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It’s no big deal but KC only DROVE into fg territory one time. The other time they were down there was a result of a fumble we lost deep in our own end.
So maybe 15-3 is more accurate.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:04 pm
I’m in Raider withdrawl!
January 10th, 2013 at 1:05 pm
715.mcfadden20. Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:02 pm
DAs team played hard and much better down the stretch with nothing to play for , Hue went down 34-0 in consecutive games and was embarrassed many times with playoffs on line, Give DA some play makers like Hue had Mcfadden and Palmer, give DA some legit Pass rusher and decent secondary, then we will talk
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Why wasn’t that Chuck Bresnehan’s fault then? He’s the Greg Knapp of DC’s.
All i’m saying is if you’re going to hand out Free Passes, then be consistent or just don’t do it.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:05 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:01 pm
And they were also playing with FB posing as a QB, and giving that FB chances to show some heroics, it’s not like Tebow won those games in shootout style, the only reason he won was because of that D stopping the other team from scoring over Tebows range (over 20 points)
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Stop with your Agenda. If it wasnt for TEBOW .. Dennis Allen would still be coaching in Denver. Tebow helped get DA a coaching job.
They were 1-4 before Tebow came to the team. Tebow helped control the game and soak up TOS for the team giving Denver D’s rest. B4 tebow the D looked horrible.
Hue Jax coached circles around DA’s Defense. Even with Palmer being here for 5 days .. ya they lost the 2nd denver game but go look how Denvers D looked.
Denver D is better this year without DA
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It’s you who have an agenda? Tebow controlled games? are you freaking kidding with me? and ofcourse they were going to be better because they got P Manning, they score points early and they unleash Dumerville and Von Miller all game long
January 10th, 2013 at 1:06 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:55 pm
R8drinOK Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:54 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:48 pm
R8drinOK Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:39 pm
DKnight007 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:35 pm
I’m tired of this bullcrap.
Let’s talk when the new OC is hired and hope he is the right choice.
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LOL, I hear ya…it’s maddening to try and figure out what the he11 is going on in Raiderland these days.
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These days?
LOL.
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Good point but Al was over 80 yrs old and his best years were behind him. What’s Reggie and DA’s excuse?
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You dont need an excuse 1 year into a job.
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You do when you win 4 games, field the worst Defense in the history of the Raiders, have a High School level offense, Oh and go 1-8 that last part of the season when you should see improvement.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:06 pm
Playing hard down the stretch counts for what when the games mean so little and considering the winning percentage of the last few teams we faced.
Would have been nice if DA and his coaching staff showed some urgency after the first game or two. But they kept on pissing away game after game until Mark Davis publically started to show some concern. Only then did you see some change, some budging of the party line that Knapp’s system was the absolute best system and that it would work.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:07 pm
711.DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:01 pm
If you formulate you opinion on a coaches ability after his first year in the league, I have no further commentary with you on the subject.
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I was right on Turner, Shell and Kiffin after their first years.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:08 pm
It’s you who have an agenda? Tebow controlled games? are you freaking kidding with me? and ofcourse they were going to be better because they got P Manning, they score points early and they unleash Dumerville and Von Miller all game long
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GIve up the Trolling dude. Tebow got them to the playoffs. Tebow Won a playoff game. Denvers D was not that good even with Miller and Dumberville.
They were 1-4 b4 tebow came. D looked horrible.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:08 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:05 pm
715.mcfadden20. Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:02 pm
DAs team played hard and much better down the stretch with nothing to play for , Hue went down 34-0 in consecutive games and was embarrassed many times with playoffs on line, Give DA some play makers like Hue had Mcfadden and Palmer, give DA some legit Pass rusher and decent secondary, then we will talk
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Why wasn’t that Chuck Bresnehan’s fault then? He’s the Greg Knapp of DC’s.
All i’m saying is if you’re going to hand out Free Passes, then be consistent or just don’t do it.
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I never wanted Hue fired, but the worshipping is as crazy as M1st1c calling out Pryor the best qb ever, he was a good OC, a good coach leads his teams to playoffs when you are only a win away from it,you guys make it sound like he was vince lombardi or something lol, i wouldn’t have had any problem with retaining Hue for another year, but to worship him like he was this n that n DA s9cks blah blah is kinda crazy don’t you think?
January 10th, 2013 at 1:08 pm
Mcfadden20= is really DA’s nephew. He is related to DA somehow
January 10th, 2013 at 1:08 pm
Name on the back of McClain’s jersey next season: FCK Y’ALL
January 10th, 2013 at 1:09 pm
678.guest123 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:37 pm
The talent argument is pretty overblown. It almost discounts coaching to nothing and that is clearly not the case. Good coaching can make an average roster into a playoff caliber team.
On any team, there are 3 to 5 stars that are difference makers, the playoff teams have 5-8 star players and the elites have 10-12 stars. Everyone else on every team is an avg joe interchangable parts that have little incremental value.
So I agree that you need talent, but not that much. You need to be able to coach up the other 45 or so nonstar players to get your team to playoff ready caliber. Too much is made of the lack of talent. It’s there, maybe not enough to compete for the SB, but certainly it’s enough to compete for the playoffs right now. But stupid coaching is holding the entire team back.
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If talent is the lone determinant than why did Philly’s “dream team” finish 4-12?
Can’t blame it on Reid becuz everyone says he’s such a great coach. Can’t blame it on talent cuz after all…they were loaded with it.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:10 pm
Denver D is better this year without DA
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Please.
Denver’s D is better because the offense is 2nd in the league in SCORING. Kinda tends to make offenses throw their playbook out.
Football 101.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:10 pm
I never wanted Hue fired, but the worshipping is as crazy as M1st1c calling out Pryor the best qb ever, he was a good OC, a good coach leads his teams to playoffs when you are only a win away from it,you guys make it sound like he was vince lombardi or something lol, i wouldn’t have had any problem with retaining Hue for another year, but to worship him like he was this n that n DA s9cks blah blah is kinda crazy don’t you think?
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No one is worshipping Hue. He’s just the most relavent example we can use. We can substiute him for Tom Cable in our example if you’d like?
It also makes no sense to defend someone who is worse than Hue.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:10 pm
McFadden20.
Why are you so obsessed with Hue?.
What we are saying here is that DA did a terrible job in 2012, the firing of 2 of his most important assistants 1 year into the job and the fact that the one staying (Tarver) led the franchise’s worst Defense since 1961 are undeniable facts, not to mention that we faced one of the easiest schedules in the League.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:10 pm
FWIW, I don’t think Reid is as good a coach as many make him out to be. He was a good coach, but fell off badly.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:13 pm
Denver D is better this year without DA
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Please.
Denver’s D is better because the offense is 2nd in the league in SCORING. Kinda tends to make offenses throw their playbook out.
Football 101.
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Ok, granted the offense helps. But how does a defense go from 20th to 3rd in one year? Peyton Manning can’t be responsible for that kind of leap. DA was addition by subtraction.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:13 pm
738.guest123 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:10 pm
FWIW, I don’t think Reid is as good a coach as many make him out to be. He was a good coach, but fell off badly.
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I think Andy was really carried by Jim Johnson. Those Eagles teams that were successful under andy were really remembered for being great defensive teams.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:13 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:08 pm
It’s you who have an agenda? Tebow controlled games? are you freaking kidding with me? and ofcourse they were going to be better because they got P Manning, they score points early and they unleash Dumerville and Von Miller all game long
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GIve up the Trolling dude. Tebow got them to the playoffs. Tebow Won a playoff game. Denvers D was not that good even with Miller and Dumberville.
They were 1-4 b4 tebow came. D looked horrible.
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Tebow did not make the freaking playoffs, the D did , they lost in their last game when Denver D held KC to just 7 points, your boy tebow only scored 3 ? they held many teams under 20 points , giving your boy a chance to show his late game heroics
January 10th, 2013 at 1:14 pm
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:04 pm
I’m in Raider withdrawl!
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Yup. It is time for Mark, Reggie, and DA throw us a MF’in bone already. No fan base deserves it more than ours. I cant even smell what they are cookin’.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:14 pm
722.DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:04 pm
Barkevious Mingo will be an all pro.
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LSU burnout at #3?
People thought Glenn Dorsey would be an All Pro also.
Maybe in a trade down only.
Trading down is imperative for McK IF he wants to draft a DLinemen or pass OLB pass rusher.
Only guy that maybe worth taking at #3 is LT Joekel. Tell the Eagles we are receiving big offers from teams to trade up for him like Zona, the Rams, TB and Titans.
Scare the Eagles into trading with us one spot to get their LT in Joekel IF KC does not take him #1 overall.
If the Eagles trade with us to secure Joekel, then McK can probably get at least their 3rd this year.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:14 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:08 pm
Mcfadden20= is really DA’s nephew. He is related to DA somehow
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N you’re Hue’s Nephew?
January 10th, 2013 at 1:15 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:07 pm
711.DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:01 pm
If you formulate you opinion on a coaches ability after HIS FIRST YEAR IN THE LEAGUE, I have no further commentary with you on the subject.
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I was right on Turner, Shell and Kiffin after their first years.
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2/3 of those guys werent FIRST YEAR coaches..
Hard to be wrong on guys we know about already…
January 10th, 2013 at 1:15 pm
This is our team in a nutshell:
All of us in here was a kid at one time and we all had a bike. We use to do all kinds of ish to the bike and with the bike.
Last year under Hue we had a complete bike: two wheels, frame, Seat and handlebars. Although our tires had a slow leak and eventually went flat.
This year we started out with the slow leak in the back tire that we eventually patched and sealed. But the front wheel came comeplete off the bike when we hit our fist bump and we had to pop a wheelie all the way back home. Eventually your legs get tired and you can’t keep that wheelie going or you flip all the way over backwards and you fall off.
Don’t try to put that wheel back on the front. It’s trashed and it’s 2 miles behind you. Get home and put a new wheel on, a stronger better one. Bye Knapp.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:15 pm
DA Apologists:
Please enlighten us with reasons we should be patient. Give us some pearls of wisdom that show a trend towards competence. Throw some stats out there that make your case. And then explain away the firing of 2/3rds of the key staff. I’m all ears.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:16 pm
No im related to the Davis’s
and Denvers 20th Ranked D got them to the Playoffs huh LMAO
January 10th, 2013 at 1:16 pm
Guys
You may not like my sobering reality but you will show patience because you have no choice unless you want to follow another franchise.
Don’t buy Raider tix.
Do what you feel you have to do.
DA and Reggie got four year deals because that is how long it will take to fix this.
I keep hearing about how our 2012 roster is the same as the 2011 roster.
The last count that I have is we had 27 DIFFERENT PLAYERS THAN 2011.
We had that turnover because of CAP ISSUES as well as INJURIES. REPEAT INJURIES. ONE MORE TIME. INJURIES.
The cap issues caused us to jettison several contributing players (Bush/Wimbley) and prevented us from signing any significant free agents with real value.
We had a paper thin roster that could never afford any injuries and we got hit hard by them.
2011 Hue offset his two biggest injuries with PALMER AND BUSH. Reggie and DA paid the price for Palmer in a loss of picks and a massive 2012 cap hit. Not that 2011 team.
The 2012 team was not the same roster as 2011.
Add to that the injuries to Seymour, Ford, Bey, Dmac/ Goodson, Spencer, Bartell, Branch, Barnes etc. etc.
and 2012 was not the same ROSTER.
Not excuses. Just reality.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:16 pm
I think Andy was really carried by Jim Johnson. Those Eagles teams that were successful under andy were really remembered for being great defensive teams.
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Winner winner chicken dinner!!
Reid was chasing his tail trying to replace Jim Johnson and never recovered.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:16 pm
DA is a flip flopper.. i will give him credit for that now.
He said one thing all year then changed his stance after the last game of the season
January 10th, 2013 at 1:17 pm
It IS possible that the fact we were the # 3 defense in the league the last quarter of the season, was not a fluke.
I’m not saying it was not a fluke…just saying it’s POSSIBLE it wasn’t. Did they finally start jelling? Did the fact Seymour and Slomo were not in there mean more than we might admit? Was it the emergence of Ross and Adams at the corners?
Yes,we had the game against KC but the other 3 games were against Peyton Manning, Philip Rivers and Cam Newton.
IF Knapp was as much a deteriment as is being suggested in many articles and analysis then isn’t it possible a good OC who puts players in the best positions to succeed a possible huge upgrade?
With the # 3 pick in the draft most likely a defensive stud, does it make us that much better?
Stuff to think about and just for fun grab the koolaid packet and start mixing it up, but don’t forget to add the sugar. The sugar being the sweet FA wide receiver that Reggie will add to the fun.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:17 pm
First year with the Raiders is all i care about. Never watched Turner in Washington, Shell was like Bill Callahan’s replacement year.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:19 pm
Dont Get me wrong.. HUE JACKSON was a better coach so far..
Im willing to give DA another season.. sees what happens. Like how he got Rid of KNAPP
DA/ REggie know there will be no more passes. Reggie will have about 2 more. DA is up on passes. This season he has to get serious
January 10th, 2013 at 1:19 pm
Charlie Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:16 pm
Guys
You may not like my sobering reality
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12-4.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:21 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:16 pm
No im related to the Davis’s
and Denvers 20th Ranked D got them to the Playoffs huh LMAO
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Yeah sure you’re related to Davis, LMFAO,
that 20th ranked D held the other team under 15 points in 7 games, 6 of them were wins, any time D holds the other teams under 15 points it gives you a good chance to win
January 10th, 2013 at 1:21 pm
Mularkey/Turner > assistant coaches in NFL or OC’s in NCAA.
They have held the position, have years of experience, and know the current state of the NFL. If we don’t get one in here for at least a cup of coffee, we have failed.
IMO no OC in playoffs wants to come to Oakland and the aforementioned are better options than any assistant in the playoffs.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:21 pm
I keep hearing about how our 2012 roster is the same as the 2011 roster.
The last count that I have is we had 27 DIFFERENT PLAYERS THAN 2011.
We had that turnover because of CAP ISSUES as well as INJURIES. REPEAT INJURIES. ONE MORE TIME. INJURIES.
The cap issues caused us to jettison several contributing players (Bush/Wimbley) and prevented us from signing any significant free agents with real value.
We had a paper thin roster that could never afford any injuries and we got hit hard by them.
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So you name 2 significant roster subtractions. 2 out of 53 or the 2 out 27 if you prefer. Roster turnover is par for the course any season. Injuries are EVERY SEASON. That doesn’t count as an excuse. Cap issues don’t count either, as we lost only 2 significant contributors. Excuse afte excuse after excuse.
It’s the same as it ever was!
January 10th, 2013 at 1:21 pm
742.The Oracle Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:14 pm
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:04 pm
I’m in Raider withdrawl!
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Yup. It is time for Mark, Reggie, and DA throw us a MF’in bone already. No fan base deserves it more than ours. I cant even smell what they are cookin’.
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Yeah. Give us something to get excited about.
GB practice squad players aren’t doin’ it for me.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:23 pm
Those 27 transcations were more DEPTH, New Draftes and Special team guys.
Not the core like PALMER/ DMAC/ DHB/MOORE/ REECE/ DLINE/ HUFF/ Branch.
Corners were on par with last year. LITO SHEPHARD remember.
Save that 27 transaction Execuse. NEXT
January 10th, 2013 at 1:23 pm
You can’t compare Hue and DA, Hue’s O minded and DA is D minded, Hue succeeded because he had good players to rely on his side of expertise, who did DA had? Seymour? Please
January 10th, 2013 at 1:24 pm
Reid was unemployed for how long?
Yes Reid is a classic example of how a meddling owner overstepped his bounds (sound familiar?) and brought in overhyped talent and paid WAY TOO MUCH. (SOUND FAMILIAR?).
Reid was a scapegoat for poor personnel decisions.
Kind of like our coaching staff for the last ten years.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:24 pm
INJURIES. Next
January 10th, 2013 at 1:24 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:23 pm
You can’t compare Hue and DA, Hue’s O minded and DA is D minded, Hue succeeded because he had good players to rely on his side of expertise, who did DA had? Seymour? Please
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Dont try and make sense.
Logic isnt appreciated in this blog.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:25 pm
exactly gb practice squad players…soneone give mccheese a calculator so he can moderize this team…
January 10th, 2013 at 1:26 pm
Last year NO DMAC, Starting Qb down, FORD/ MOORE gone for hte playoff push, Owner passes, NO GM, NO help but hue / BRESHNAHAN
NEXT
HUE IMPACTED his part of the team offense
DA has yet to impact his part of the team Defense other then giving up historical numbers going back to Pre Al era and AFL days including giving up the most points, and most scoring
NEXT
January 10th, 2013 at 1:26 pm
no way…these corners are the worst in all of raider history…
January 10th, 2013 at 1:26 pm
761.mcfadden20. Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:23 pm
You can’t compare Hue and DA, Hue’s O minded and DA is D minded, Hue succeeded because he had good players to rely on his side of expertise, who did DA had? Seymour? Please
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That Defense DA took over was 7th in sacks the year prior, with Wimbley making up 8 or 9 of those numbers in two games. All of a sudden they can’t rush the passer this year.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:27 pm
I thought Underwood guy was going to be awesome, he showed some play making ability before injuries cut his season short
January 10th, 2013 at 1:27 pm
oh were gonna go with DA has no talent lmao
January 10th, 2013 at 1:27 pm
I’m crazy about my LSU Tigers but what really scares me about them is in the last 10 years or so, the 4-7 draft picks have outperformed the 1-3 rnd guys.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:28 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:26 pm
no way…these corners are the worst in all of raider history…
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Using the inverse peyton manning argument, you could say that Knapp was responsible for out lousy secondary.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:28 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:26 pm
761.mcfadden20. Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:23 pm
You can’t compare Hue and DA, Hue’s O minded and DA is D minded, Hue succeeded because he had good players to rely on his side of expertise, who did DA had? Seymour? Please
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That Defense DA took over was 7th in sacks the year prior, with Wimbley making up 8 or 9 of those numbers in two games. All of a sudden they can’t rush the passer this year.
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They couldnt rush the passer last year. Only in spurts.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:28 pm
Underwood is now a Cowboy
January 10th, 2013 at 1:29 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:26 pm
761.mcfadden20. Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:23 pm
You can’t compare Hue and DA, Hue’s O minded and DA is D minded, Hue succeeded because he had good players to rely on his side of expertise, who did DA had? Seymour? Please
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That Defense DA took over was 7th in sacks the year prior, with Wimbley making up 8 or 9 of those numbers in two games. All of a sudden they can’t rush the passer this year.
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LMFAO, yes they also had better O which led the other teams to pass more and they also had younger Kelly and Seymour, WImbley,Seymour,Kelly accounted for 23 sacks, WImbley gone, replaced by Shaugnessy, Kelly year older, seymour year older, hardly played, than Houston is on the other side
January 10th, 2013 at 1:29 pm
762.Charlie Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:24 pm
Reid was unemployed for how long?
Yes Reid is a classic example of how a meddling owner overstepped his bounds (sound familiar?) and brought in overhyped talent and paid WAY TOO MUCH. (SOUND FAMILIAR?).
Reid was a scapegoat for poor personnel decisions.
Kind of like our coaching staff for the last ten years.
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Eagles this year/last year remind me of the Skins teams from years past. They would have all these overpaid skill position players and the o-line would suck and they would loose. I remember the QBs getting killed on the skins getting killed…
January 10th, 2013 at 1:29 pm
770.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:27 pm
oh were gonna go with DA has no talent lmao
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IT’s a vicious cycle
January 10th, 2013 at 1:30 pm
775.mcfadden20. Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:29 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:26 pm
761.mcfadden20. Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:23 pm
You can’t compare Hue and DA, Hue’s O minded and DA is D minded, Hue succeeded because he had good players to rely on his side of expertise, who did DA had? Seymour? Please
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That Defense DA took over was 7th in sacks the year prior, with Wimbley making up 8 or 9 of those numbers in two games. All of a sudden they can’t rush the passer this year.
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LMFAO, yes they also had better O which led the other teams to pass more and they also had younger Kelly and Seymour, WImbley,Seymour,Kelly accounted for 23 sacks, WImbley gone, replaced by Shaugnessy, Kelly year older, seymour year older, hardly played, than Houston is on the other side
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Ahh it’s old age now, good choice. Since no one can argue with Father time.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:30 pm
DA lovers have nothing but execuses. Thats all they got. BUT .. BUT .. BUT
January 10th, 2013 at 1:30 pm
The majority of the players on this team are either overpaid or not good enough.
Reggie McKenzie is turning the roster over.
Making the playoffs once with a barely 8-8 team isnt the goal.
Its been covered in this blog numerous times.
If you arent on board, cool. But whining and complaining like a 4 year old does nothing.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:31 pm
B Underwood is a FA, he was IR in preseason
January 10th, 2013 at 1:31 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:13 pm
738.guest123 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:10 pm
FWIW, I don’t think Reid is as good a coach as many make him out to be. He was a good coach, but fell off badly.
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I think Andy was really carried by Jim Johnson. Those Eagles teams that were successful under andy were really remembered for being great defensive teams.
Yup, notice how after Jim Johnson passed away that the d went downhill from there…Dream Team?
January 10th, 2013 at 1:32 pm
McFadden20, i need you on my speed dial when i come home late at night and need some excuses for the Battle Axe.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:32 pm
Haters always have some kinda stuff, Like it was T Tebow responsible for those wins, even though the D held the other team under 15 points in 6 of those wins , you can’t make this stuff up
January 10th, 2013 at 1:32 pm
again like i said UNDERWOOD just signed with the cowboys for next season.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:33 pm
Making the playoffs once with a barely 8-8 team isnt the goal.
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Well that’s good to know. Cuz there aren’t another 31 teams out there trying to do the same thing Reggie is, ya know. Reggie’s plan is special, I’ll take your word on that. I’m on board!
January 10th, 2013 at 1:34 pm
thats why i blame reggie just as much if not more…
January 10th, 2013 at 1:34 pm
Again Broncos were 1-4 before tebow came. Broncos D was ranked 20th.
Tebow has 1 more playoff win then Palmer. Im not happy about that. However its a Fact
January 10th, 2013 at 1:35 pm
da is just a yes man…
January 10th, 2013 at 1:35 pm
guest123 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:33 pm
Making the playoffs once with a barely 8-8 team isnt the goal.
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Well that’s good to know. Cuz there aren’t another 31 teams out there trying to do the same thing Reggie is, ya know. Reggie’s plan is special, I’ll take your word on that. I’m on board!
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Or maybe you can tell me the promising future the overpaid, old, innefective players on this roster will bring us?..
January 10th, 2013 at 1:35 pm
Where is Sterling Moore nowadays?! Haven’t seen him since cut by Pats. Wanna see him at camp next year, for what its worth.
I see our other castoff Stevie Brown had a pPro Bowl type year. SMH.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:36 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
How about my Cable led SEAHAWKS…… RAIDERS STINK IT UP PRETTY GOOD>
January 10th, 2013 at 1:36 pm
Guest
It appears that the complexity of Injuries, salary cap, lack of draft picks, contract value relative to production and a decade of poor drafting may be a bit to complex for many of you.
27 Roster spot changes (on a 53 man roster that is approximatly 50% for you math majors) coupled with at my count approximately TEN significant injuries (Dmac AND Goodson at the same time) more than compared to prior year and you still think we had the same talent on the field as 2011?
Whatever makes you feel good man.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:36 pm
Charlie Says:
Reid was unemployed for how long?.
Yes Reid is a classic example of how a meddling owner overstepped his bounds (sound familiar?) and brought in overhyped talent and paid WAY TOO MUCH. (SOUND FAMILIAR?).
Reid was a scapegoat for poor personnel decisions.
Kind of like our coaching staff for the last ten years.
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LOL.
Charlie come on, are we making stuff up now?.
Andy Reid had control of personnel in Philly, he brought every single player over there.
How can you be a scapegoat when you are the one making those decisions?.
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From a espn article:
Andy Reid, march 2012: “As far as the personnel control, I have had final say on personnel matters for quite some time here and that’s never been an issue or a point of contention”.
The way the Eagles have acted this offseason is more in line with what they’ve done in the past, in a front-office structure that allows Reid final say in personnel decisions but in which he works closely with GM Howie Roseman and team president Joe Banner.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:37 pm
The HOracle Says:
SEAHAWKS RULE!!!!
January 10th, 2013 at 1:37 pm
Sterling Moore is a Cowgirl too
January 10th, 2013 at 1:37 pm
2010-2011 Oakland Raiders.
The most talented 8-8 team ever.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:38 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:30 pm
The majority of the players on this team are either overpaid or not good enough.
Reggie McKenzie is turning the roster over.
Making the playoffs once with a barely 8-8 team isnt the goal.
Its been covered in this blog numerous times.
If you arent on board, cool. But whining and complaining like a 4 year old does nothing.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
So you are content with 4-12? No whining here just a bunch of pi$$ed off Raider fans tired of losing. What did DA do to warrant your undying support visor?
January 10th, 2013 at 1:38 pm
793.Charlie Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:36 pm
Guest
It appears that the complexity of Injuries, salary cap, lack of draft picks, contract value relative to production and a decade of poor drafting may be a bit to complex for many of you.
27 Roster spot changes (on a 53 man roster that is approximatly 50% for you math majors) coupled with at my count approximately TEN significant injuries (Dmac AND Goodson at the same time) more than compared to prior year and you still think we had the same talent on the field as 2011?
Whatever makes you feel good man.
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Damm! now that is how you make an excuese, from now on, that’s how you make excueses.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:38 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says: why is that picture of Al still here what a disgace.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:40 pm
793.Charlie Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:36 pm
Guest
It appears that the complexity of Injuries, salary cap, lack of draft picks, contract value relative to production and a decade of poor drafting may be a bit to complex for many of you.
27 Roster spot changes (on a 53 man roster that is approximatly 50% for you math majors) coupled with at my count approximately TEN significant injuries (Dmac AND Goodson at the same time) more than compared to prior year and you still think we had the same talent on the field as 2011?
Whatever makes you feel good man.
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If you could’ve some how worked Old Age in there, my head would’ve exploded. But still, good try, good effort
January 10th, 2013 at 1:40 pm
R8drinOK Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:38 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:30 pm
The majority of the players on this team are either overpaid or not good enough.
Reggie McKenzie is turning the roster over.
Making the playoffs once with a barely 8-8 team isnt the goal.
Its been covered in this blog numerous times.
If you arent on board, cool. But whining and complaining like a 4 year old does nothing.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
So you are content with 4-12? No whining here just a bunch of pi$$ed off Raider fans tired of losing. What did DA do to warrant your undying support visor?
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Nothing.
Its called being realistic.
I havent once said that DA has done a good job or anything close to it.
Im just not gonna be that idiotic cliche Raider fan who is always screaming to fire people.
Im not content with 4-12. But if there is a plan that will get us to not being 4-12 for a long time, im with that.
1 year isnt enough to dismiss that plan. PERIOD
January 10th, 2013 at 1:40 pm
dvrick Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:37 pm
The HOracle Says:
SEAHAWKS RULE!!!!
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Seahawks fans….F*CK Y’ALL.
Last time I saw the Seahawks at the O, Pete and the boys got SPANKED. Don’t come at me with preseason crap.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:40 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:37 pm
2010-2011 Oakland Raiders.
The most untalented Raiders team ever.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:40 pm
4-12…
January 10th, 2013 at 1:40 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:32 pm
McFadden20, i need you on my speed dial when i come home late at night and need some excuses for the Battle Axe.
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It called giving a guy a fair chance, you want to fire DA because he hired G Knapp out of all the other trash that was available when he was hired, and cuz he took over the D that couldn’t force 1 punt in must win game and lost their best pass rusher?
January 10th, 2013 at 1:41 pm
Trade DMAC already!
January 10th, 2013 at 1:42 pm
806.mcfadden20. Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:40 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:32 pm
McFadden20, i need you on my speed dial when i come home late at night and need some excuses for the Battle Axe.
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It called giving a guy a fair chance, you want to fire DA because he hired G Knapp out of all the other trash that was available when he was hired, and cuz he took over the D that couldn’t force 1 punt in must win game and lost their best pass rusher?
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Well GK is pretty unforgivable, but i only want to fire him for going 4-12
January 10th, 2013 at 1:43 pm
807.Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:41 pm
Trade DMAC already!
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Wait for the PLAYOFFS to end at least!
January 10th, 2013 at 1:43 pm
lol…”we gonna lose men…we gonna lose more than last year or the year before that men…but we have a plan…we have plan men…we just have to lose first….now go out there…snap on your helmets…get kicked in the face abd dont fight back because why men? we have a plan….”
new bud light commercial featuring mumbles…
January 10th, 2013 at 1:45 pm
802. So when do you revoke your pass? Year 2 or 3?
January 10th, 2013 at 1:46 pm
How did the Lions go from 10-6 to 4-12 with the same roster?!?!?
FIRE JIM SCHWARTZ!!!!
January 10th, 2013 at 1:47 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:40 pm
R8drinOK Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:38 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:30 pm
The majority of the players on this team are either overpaid or not good enough.
Reggie McKenzie is turning the roster over.
Making the playoffs once with a barely 8-8 team isnt the goal.
Its been covered in this blog numerous times.
If you arent on board, cool. But whining and complaining like a 4 year old does nothing.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
So you are content with 4-12? No whining here just a bunch of pi$$ed off Raider fans tired of losing. What did DA do to warrant your undying support visor?
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Nothing.
Its called being realistic.
I havent once said that DA has done a good job or anything close to it.
Im just not gonna be that idiotic cliche Raider fan who is always screaming to fire people.
Im not content with 4-12. But if there is a plan that will get us to not being 4-12 for a long time, im with that.
1 year isnt enough to dismiss that plan. PERIOD
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Ok, I agree we need some stability. BUT, what about the plan’s results so far have given you confidence? I see more misses than hits. looks like they are learning on the job at the Raiders expense.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:47 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:42 pm
806.mcfadden20. Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:40 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:32 pm
McFadden20, i need you on my speed dial when i come home late at night and need some excuses for the Battle Axe.
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It called giving a guy a fair chance, you want to fire DA because he hired G Knapp out of all the other trash that was available when he was hired, and cuz he took over the D that couldn’t force 1 punt in must win game and lost their best pass rusher?
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Well GK is pretty unforgivable, but i only want to fire him for going 4-12
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It proves nothing, you have to give ur coach a decent chance, you can’t blame him for going 4-12 when he wasn’t even given a good offseason in which 1 can bring good players to teams , or even 1st round pick and a 2nd round pick , that’s 2 starters we could have , n u can’t blame him for hiring G Knapp , when the guy was hired in late january, when all the coaches who are available are trash
January 10th, 2013 at 1:49 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:45 pm
802. So when do you revoke your pass? Year 2 or 3?
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If the players drafted & signed by Reggie McKenzie are total flops after 3 years, the whole thing gets scrapped.
If the players arent being coached up right, but show talent, fire the coaches. Dennis Allen and all.
3 year window.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:49 pm
Trade DMAC before any more football is played! Or sooner!
January 10th, 2013 at 1:50 pm
atleast give a coach a decent offseason, maybe if DA was offensive coach he might have rode on Mcfaddens coat tails like Hue and led us to 8-8 , you can’t expect a D minded coach to come there and hire a decent O guy when there was nobody available , you can’t expect him to make the D better, cutting your only good pass rusher, and not having money to sign any good player, and not having first 2 draft picks, which could have been used on a decent RT or good pass rusher, atleast give the guy a fair chance
January 10th, 2013 at 1:51 pm
It proves nothing, you have to give ur coach a decent chance, you can’t blame him for going 4-12 when he wasn’t even given a good offseason in which 1 can bring good players to teams , or even 1st round pick and a 2nd round pick , that’s 2 starters we could have , n u can’t blame him for hiring G Knapp , when the guy was hired in late january, when all the coaches who are available are trash
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Jeez, Seems we can’t blame DA for anything according to you. Not even Knapp.
Anyway, I don’t have any choice but to give DA another chance it seems, that sliver of hope ended on Black Monday.
My question to you is, this the year we get to revoke his pass? No excuses for 2013, or just limited excuses?
January 10th, 2013 at 1:51 pm
Trade DMAC twice!
January 10th, 2013 at 1:51 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:46 pm
How did the Lions go from 10-6 to 4-12 with the same roster?!?!?
FIRE JIM SCHWARTZ!!!!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Different scenario, Schwartz got the Lions their first playoff game since 1999.. he deserves another year. DA DID NOT improve the Raiders since becoming HC…simple fact.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:52 pm
http://m.nfl.com/news/0ap1000000124521/russell-wilson-tops-matt-ryan-in-playoff-trustworthiness/
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Schein got this one right.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:52 pm
R8drinOK Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:47 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:40 pm
R8drinOK Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:38 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:30 pm
The majority of the players on this team are either overpaid or not good enough.
Reggie McKenzie is turning the roster over.
Making the playoffs once with a barely 8-8 team isnt the goal.
Its been covered in this blog numerous times.
If you arent on board, cool. But whining and complaining like a 4 year old does nothing.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
So you are content with 4-12? No whining here just a bunch of pi$$ed off Raider fans tired of losing. What did DA do to warrant your undying support visor?
—-
Nothing.
Its called being realistic.
I havent once said that DA has done a good job or anything close to it.
Im just not gonna be that idiotic cliche Raider fan who is always screaming to fire people.
Im not content with 4-12. But if there is a plan that will get us to not being 4-12 for a long time, im with that.
1 year isnt enough to dismiss that plan. PERIOD
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Ok, I agree we need some stability. BUT, what about the plan’s results so far have given you confidence? I see more misses than hits. looks like they are learning on the job at the Raiders expense.
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-The defense finished strong, so Tarver looks like he grew.
-Draft class looked solid, so McKenzie seems to have that handled for the most part.
-FAs were cheap and effective. Tollefson the only complete whiff. Brisiel finished strong.
Its gonna be built through the draft. That takes time.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:52 pm
apparently its a 3-10 year window..lol
January 10th, 2013 at 1:53 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:51 pm
It proves nothing, you have to give ur coach a decent chance, you can’t blame him for going 4-12 when he wasn’t even given a good offseason in which 1 can bring good players to teams , or even 1st round pick and a 2nd round pick , that’s 2 starters we could have , n u can’t blame him for hiring G Knapp , when the guy was hired in late january, when all the coaches who are available are trash
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Jeez, Seems we can’t blame DA for anything according to you. Not even Knapp.
Anyway, I don’t have any choice but to give DA another chance it seems, that sliver of hope ended on Black Monday.
My question to you is, this the year we get to revoke his pass? No excuses for 2013, or just limited excuses?
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Ofcourse no excuses for 2013, that’s what im trying to say, atleast give the guy a fair chance, don’t ask for his head, in salary cap hell year, first draft pick in 3rd round and only trash coaches to pick from for OC, special teams
January 10th, 2013 at 1:54 pm
R8drinOK Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:51 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:46 pm
How did the Lions go from 10-6 to 4-12 with the same roster?!?!?
FIRE JIM SCHWARTZ!!!!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Different scenario, Schwartz got the Lions their first playoff game since 1999.. he deserves another year. DA DID NOT improve the Raiders since becoming HC…simple fact.
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Schwartz went 2-14 his first season.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:54 pm
tollefson the only flop? lol…i cant stop laughing…fvck it nevermind….the only one…dayumn
January 10th, 2013 at 1:56 pm
Sign Danny Southwick!
January 10th, 2013 at 1:56 pm
It’s not a 3-10 year window , we should expect results next year, the problems this year are understandable, maybe G Knapp would have been his first choice all along if he was hired little earlier and more coaches to pick from, maybe with some salary cap relief we might have signed busts, maybe our first 2 picks probably would not have turned out any good, but those are shoulda, coulda , woulda, everybody deserves a fair chance, unless you took over a team full of hall of famers
January 10th, 2013 at 1:57 pm
Unless you can hire a proven winner there’s no point in firing DA, we already fired the OC and ST Coach because they did a terrible job, DA satying is the way to go, just have to acknowledge the fact that his first year was a disaster, nowhere to go but up in 2013.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:57 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:54 pm
tollefson the only flop? lol…i cant stop laughing…fvck it nevermind….the only one…dayumn
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We didnt bring in any multiple year high price FAs other than Brisiel. Tollefson barely qualifies as one.
Not that hard to get..
January 10th, 2013 at 1:57 pm
Some of you just like to bissch. You wake up a bissch. You rush here to bissch. You bissch at the end of the day that your day was a bissch.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:57 pm
Trestman was available when Knapp was hired…
January 10th, 2013 at 1:58 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:52 pm
1 year isnt enough to dismiss that plan. PERIOD
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Ok, I agree we need some stability. BUT, what about the plan’s results so far have given you confidence? I see more misses than hits. looks like they are learning on the job at the Raiders expense.
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-The defense finished strong, so Tarver looks like he grew.
-Draft class looked solid, so McKenzie seems to have that handled for the most part.
-FAs were cheap and effective. Tollefson the only complete whiff. Brisiel finished strong.
Its gonna be built through the draft. That takes time.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Love your positive outlook, But I did not see the same progress. The only FA we hit on was Wheeler, Brisel sucked, draft I’d say we hit on Burris…that’s it. Remember we did not face a winning team the last 3 weeks of the season.
January 10th, 2013 at 1:58 pm
DMAC = bissch
January 10th, 2013 at 1:58 pm
how much of training camp did DA miss out on? what about otas?
January 10th, 2013 at 2:00 pm
Love your positive outlook, But I did not see the same progress. The only FA we hit on was Wheeler, Brisel sucked, draft I’d say we hit on Burris…that’s it. Remember we did not face a winning team the last 3 weeks of the season.
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UDFA: Streeter? How about Goodson?
January 10th, 2013 at 2:00 pm
guest123 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:15 pm
DA Apologists:
Please enlighten us with reasons we should be patient. Give us some pearls of wisdom that show a trend towards competence. Throw some stats out there that make your case. And then explain away the firing of 2/3rds of the key staff. I’m all ears.
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Are there any playoff teams that fired 4 coaches in 5 years playing?
How about any that fired two in 5 years?
Ok… lets go out on a limb here… any playoff teams that fired more than one in the last 7 years???
You don’t get to the playoffs replacing HC’s every year.
Jeesh people. You can be smarter than this. You make us look like the worlds dumbest fans with this “Fire DA” crap.
January 10th, 2013 at 2:00 pm
Knapp took over an offense that scored in the 20s and turned it into 15 pPG, he deserved to be fired, Special teams coach deserved to b fired, LB coach deserved to be fired, OL coach deserved to be fired, there was a reason those guys were still available in early february, Tarver made a leap from stanford to Oakland, early season didn’t go well, but the D played inspired down the stretch, which just tells you that he just needed some time to adjust and make some changes, i am personally excited to see his D go to work with better players next year, it’s going to be awesome to see how he uses his bio-chemistry knowledge to stop the O’s
January 10th, 2013 at 2:01 pm
still laughing at that one…but ok…thanks man needed that laugh.
January 10th, 2013 at 2:01 pm
Have we called ANY coaches? are we just gonna wait until all the head coaches get hired and then they start hiring their staff and then the leftover scrubs can get a last minute call from reg?
January 10th, 2013 at 2:01 pm
747.guest123 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:15 pm
DA Apologists:
Please enlighten us with reasons we should be patient. Give us some pearls of wisdom that show a trend towards competence. Throw some stats out there that make your case. And then explain away the firing of 2/3rds of the key staff. I’m all ears.
^^^^^^^^
Let’s hear it DA fans!
January 10th, 2013 at 2:01 pm
R8drinOK Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:58 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:52 pm
1 year isnt enough to dismiss that plan. PERIOD
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Ok, I agree we need some stability. BUT, what about the plan’s results so far have given you confidence? I see more misses than hits. looks like they are learning on the job at the Raiders expense.
—-
-The defense finished strong, so Tarver looks like he grew.
-Draft class looked solid, so McKenzie seems to have that handled for the most part.
-FAs were cheap and effective. Tollefson the only complete whiff. Brisiel finished strong.
Its gonna be built through the draft. That takes time.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Love your positive outlook, But I did not see the same progress. The only FA we hit on was Wheeler, Brisel sucked, draft I’d say we hit on Burris…that’s it. Remember we did not face a winning team the last 3 weeks of the season.
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Wheeler, Joselio Hanson, Phillip Adams & Brandian Ross all showed enough to warrant them a success, especially considering their contracts.
Burris, Criner & Bilukidi look like players also. Bergstrom started the last game where we gave up no sacks & DMC had one of his better games of the season..
Appreciate the back n forth brethren..
January 10th, 2013 at 2:03 pm
815.DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:49 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:45 pm
802. So when do you revoke your pass? Year 2 or 3?
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If the players drafted & signed by Reggie McKenzie are total flops after 3 years, the whole thing gets scrapped.
If the players arent being coached up right, but show talent, fire the coaches. Dennis Allen and all.
3 year window.
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So 3 years not including the one just passed? That’s pretty patient of you.
January 10th, 2013 at 2:03 pm
I didnt know it was in Reggie’s contract that he had to inform the Raider fans on this blog of his coaching/personnel moves ahead of time..
Interesting.
January 10th, 2013 at 2:05 pm
McK needs to find a trade partner to trade down from that #3 pick and he also is going to have try and trade Ford or Moore to get another 3rd or 4th round pick also.
Trading Kelly for 3rd or 4th would be nice also.
January 10th, 2013 at 2:05 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 2:03 pm
815.DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:49 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:45 pm
802. So when do you revoke your pass? Year 2 or 3?
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If the players drafted & signed by Reggie McKenzie are total flops after 3 years, the whole thing gets scrapped.
If the players arent being coached up right, but show talent, fire the coaches. Dennis Allen and all.
3 year window.
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So 3 years not including the one just passed? That’s pretty patient of you
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Re-built organizations with new systems and new players dont just *kapoof* ya know..
January 10th, 2013 at 2:05 pm
819.Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:51 pm
Trade DMAC twice!
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So trade DMAC, then Trade back for him?
That’s just crazy enough to work! I like your style
January 10th, 2013 at 2:06 pm
DKnight007 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 2:05 pm
McK needs to find a trade partner to trade down from that #3 pick and he also is going to have try and trade Ford or Moore to get another 3rd or 4th round pick also.
Trading Kelly for 3rd or 4th would be nice also.
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Wouldnt be apposed to any of that.
Although of the 3, i’d keep Ford.
January 10th, 2013 at 2:06 pm
I want to keep Ford also. Need a REAL ST coach and OC though.
January 10th, 2013 at 2:06 pm
Some of you guys think if we defend a guy we must really like him , like M1st1cs love fest for anything black, but no it’s called giving a guy fair chance
January 10th, 2013 at 2:07 pm
847…lol…i think it might get reggie out of the buffet!
January 10th, 2013 at 2:08 pm
844.DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 2:03 pm
I didnt know it was in Reggie’s contract that he had to inform the Raider fans on this blog of his coaching/personnel moves ahead of time..
Interesting.
^^^^^^^^
Well crap. After he approved his rookie head coach to hire some clown like Knapp as OC, I think him needing our approval is important now.
January 10th, 2013 at 2:08 pm
I think Fred may be onto something……..
January 10th, 2013 at 2:08 pm
846.DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 2:05 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 2:03 pm
815.DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:49 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:45 pm
802. So when do you revoke your pass? Year 2 or 3?
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If the players drafted & signed by Reggie McKenzie are total flops after 3 years, the whole thing gets scrapped.
If the players arent being coached up right, but show talent, fire the coaches. Dennis Allen and all.
3 year window.
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So 3 years not including the one just passed? That’s pretty patient of you
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Re-built organizations with new systems and new players dont just *kapoof* ya know..
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Sure. I also realize this salary cap problem isn’t going away in 3 years. So i fully expect the “What do you expect Reggie to sign with our cap?” Excuse in those 3 years, which makes me realize you’re really doubling your pass to a 6 year pass. Oh the joy!
January 10th, 2013 at 2:09 pm
if consistency was so important at the head coaching position why weren’t all the defenders of DA up in arms when hue got fired? Seemed like a much better coach and system to build around.
January 10th, 2013 at 2:10 pm
DKnight007 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 2:08 pm
844.DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 2:03 pm
I didnt know it was in Reggie’s contract that he had to inform the Raider fans on this blog of his coaching/personnel moves ahead of time..
Interesting.
^^^^^^^^
Well crap. After he approved his rookie head coach to hire some clown like Knapp as OC, I think him needing our approval is important now.
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Its not like he picked Knapp out of a pool of coaches waiting in the hallway.
Some Raider fans seem to think Knapp was Allens first phone call after getting the job..lol
January 10th, 2013 at 2:11 pm
You don’t know how a coach will turn out like, Chuck Noll was 1-13 first year, 5-9 the 2nd, 6-8 the 3rd then 13 straight winning seasons and 4 superbowls
January 10th, 2013 at 2:12 pm
dont care if he was the last coach for an elementery team..hell switch the def coord to offense…lol.
January 10th, 2013 at 2:12 pm
Its not like he picked Knapp out of a pool of coaches waiting in the hallway.
Some Raider fans seem to think Knapp was Allens first phone call after getting the job..lol
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Settling for known Garbage is no excuse, so take that one off you list, you don’t need it with the rest you got anyways.
January 10th, 2013 at 2:12 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 2:08 pm
846.DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 2:05 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 2:03 pm
815.DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:49 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:45 pm
802. So when do you revoke your pass? Year 2 or 3?
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If the players drafted & signed by Reggie McKenzie are total flops after 3 years, the whole thing gets scrapped.
If the players arent being coached up right, but show talent, fire the coaches. Dennis Allen and all.
3 year window.
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So 3 years not including the one just passed? That’s pretty patient of you
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Re-built organizations with new systems and new players dont just *kapoof* ya know..
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Sure. I also realize this salary cap problem isn’t going away in 3 years. So i fully expect the “What do you expect Reggie to sign with our cap?” Excuse in those 3 years, which makes me realize you’re really doubling your pass to a 6 year pass. Oh the joy!
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This team wont be built thru Free Agency. 3 years worth of drafting is enough to see.
Its not about signing any big FAs, its about getting rid of the turds the previous regime gave huge contracts to.
January 10th, 2013 at 2:13 pm
DKnight007 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 2:01 pm
747.guest123 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:15 pm
DA Apologists:
Please enlighten us with reasons we should be patient. Give us some pearls of wisdom that show a trend towards competence. Throw some stats out there that make your case. And then explain away the firing of 2/3rds of the key staff. I’m all ears.
^^^^^^^^
Let’s hear it DA fans!
>>>>
Here ya go!!… why don’t you step up to the plate now and answer the questions…
Are there any playoff teams that fired 4 coaches in 5 years playing?
How about any that fired two in 5 years?
Ok… lets go out on a limb here… any playoff teams that fired more than one in the last 7 years???
CHOP CHOP EINSTEIN!
January 10th, 2013 at 2:13 pm
Its not like he picked Knapp out of a pool of coaches waiting in the hallway.
Some Raider fans seem to think Knapp was Allens first phone call after getting the job..lol
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Yup a lot of good coaches were available waiting for their phone to ring , in early feb when most coaching staffs are filled lol
January 10th, 2013 at 2:14 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 2:12 pm
Its not like he picked Knapp out of a pool of coaches waiting in the hallway.
Some Raider fans seem to think Knapp was Allens first phone call after getting the job..lol
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Settling for known Garbage is no excuse, so take that one off you list, you don’t need it with the rest you got anyways.
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Must be nice to live in your world.
Im stuck here in reality.
January 10th, 2013 at 2:15 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
January 9th, 2013 at 10:58 pm
jraider Says:
January 9th, 2013 at 10:45 pm
At least he’ll never play another game in a Raiders uniform. AD didnt care about player character.
McClain is exhibit A, and why the new regime will do differently.
In Reggie we trust.
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I think Al cared. He admitted they turned a blind eye to “character issues” and that they should have been more diligent on that end. I just think he chose to ignore those aspects.
Admittedly, you can’t be a good GM and live on hope or think character doesn’t matter.
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I agree
January 10th, 2013 at 2:15 pm
Its not like he picked Knapp out of a pool of coaches waiting in the hallway.
Some Raider fans seem to think Knapp was Allens first phone call after getting the job..lol.
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Al Saunders??????????.
January 10th, 2013 at 2:15 pm
I was very dissapointed with reggies first class.. i hope sombody improves.. and the only free agent I liked was wheeler.. I don’t really count Streeter because we should have drafted him. we were lucky he chose us and it’s probably only because his manager told him that our receivers suck and he could make the team.
January 10th, 2013 at 2:16 pm
we are almost into february now…wtf?
January 10th, 2013 at 2:16 pm
Marks hair Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 2:15 pm
I was very dissapointed with reggies first class.. i hope sombody improves.. and the only free agent I liked was wheeler.. I don’t really count Streeter because we should have drafted him. we were lucky he chose us and it’s probably only because his manager told him that our receivers suck and he could make the team.
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But kudos to reg for seeing potential in him
January 10th, 2013 at 2:18 pm
863.DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 2:14 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 2:12 pm
Its not like he picked Knapp out of a pool of coaches waiting in the hallway.
Some Raider fans seem to think Knapp was Allens first phone call after getting the job..lol
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Settling for known Garbage is no excuse, so take that one off you list, you don’t need it with the rest you got anyways.
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Must be nice to live in your world.
Im stuck here in reality.
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Reality is 4-12, and we’re all stuck in it
January 10th, 2013 at 2:18 pm
Marks hair Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 2:15 pm
I was very dissapointed with reggies first class.. i hope sombody improves.. and the only free agent I liked was wheeler.. I don’t really count Streeter because we should have drafted him. we were lucky he chose us and it’s probably only because his manager told him that our receivers suck and he could make the team.
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We’re lucky that a undrafted FA out of Temple, [they only run] who caught 19 passes his Senior, year chose us?!?
LOL
Its called scouting, seeing something in a player.
January 10th, 2013 at 2:18 pm
Most of the hopes would come down to who we hire as an OC, people will base their predictions off of that, then who we get on the D side, do we get legit pass rushers, or the same ole story, good enough to beat average teams, then do a flop against good O’s
January 10th, 2013 at 2:18 pm
2013 Commitment to Regression
January 10th, 2013 at 2:20 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 2:18 pm
2013 Commitment to Regression
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Well then they should have kept Knapp, Pollack, Hoffman, and the LB coach
January 10th, 2013 at 2:20 pm
so what is crawford? or stupar? or bergstrom? or ….
January 10th, 2013 at 2:21 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 2:20 pm
so what is crawford? or stupar? or bergstrom? or ….
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A DE, a 49ers LB, and a OL…
Your welcome.
January 10th, 2013 at 2:21 pm
I don’t want da fired.. not for some random guy. the crap coaches are all gone now.. that’ll have to do.. but I’m not going to defend the guy. he made countless mistakes this year.
January 10th, 2013 at 2:22 pm
This draft was a no lose situation for Reggie. Can’t draft a bust on the 2nd day.
January 10th, 2013 at 2:22 pm
Marks hair Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 2:21 pm
I don’t want da fired.. not for some random guy. the crap coaches are all gone now.. that’ll have to do.. but I’m not going to defend the guy. he made countless mistakes this year.
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Not earth shattering news considering he was a first year HC, 1 year removed from being a first year DC..
January 10th, 2013 at 2:23 pm
876.Marks hair Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 2:21 pm
I don’t want da fired.. not for some random guy. the crap coaches are all gone now.. that’ll have to do.. but I’m not going to defend the guy. he made countless mistakes this year.
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I’d fire DA today for Lovie Smith or Ken Wizenhunt.
January 10th, 2013 at 2:23 pm
You can’t build teams waiting by waiting until the mid of 3rd rd to draft your first player, Reggie need to accumulate picks , heck trade Dmac to some1 for 2 picks, is Jerry Jones still in love with DmAc as he was when Dmac was coming outta college? maybe he might give us a 2nd and a 5th or something
January 10th, 2013 at 2:23 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 2:22 pm
This draft was a no lose situation for Reggie. Can’t draft a bust on the 2nd day.
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Apparently you missed a lot of our previous drafts.
January 10th, 2013 at 2:24 pm
Reggie’s record speaks for itself.
4-12
January 10th, 2013 at 2:24 pm
it’s called height weight speed and Al would have drafted Streeter over criner..
January 10th, 2013 at 2:24 pm
not very good ones…and not very good scouting either..
January 10th, 2013 at 2:24 pm
Fire ‘em ALL, let God sort ‘em out!!
January 10th, 2013 at 2:24 pm
881.DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 2:23 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 2:22 pm
This draft was a no lose situation for Reggie. Can’t draft a bust on the 2nd day.
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Apparently you missed a lot of our previous drafts.
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You consider 3rd round picks busts?
January 10th, 2013 at 2:26 pm
Marks hair Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 2:24 pm
it’s called height weight speed and Al would have drafted Streeter over criner..
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Your serious with this?
January 10th, 2013 at 2:26 pm
hell yeah he wouldve criner is as good as he will ever be…
January 10th, 2013 at 2:27 pm
DMAC = Always miss atleast half the season = Gone by trade – we save about 6 M
Seymour = also always miss half the year = gone
McCf8ckya’ll = immature = gone
DHB = Always liked the kid and wanted him to succeed, either they restructure his contract or he will be gone
January 10th, 2013 at 2:27 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 2:24 pm
881.DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 2:23 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 2:22 pm
This draft was a no lose situation for Reggie. Can’t draft a bust on the 2nd day.
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Apparently you missed a lot of our previous drafts.
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You consider 3rd round picks busts?
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Every pick that doesnt pan out is a bust.
Every FA that doesnt pan out is a bust.
Quintin Groves in the 3rd round, didnt make the team. BUST. etc..
January 10th, 2013 at 2:27 pm
Quintin Moses*
January 10th, 2013 at 2:28 pm
3rd rd picks should contribute to their first year. special teams and maybe a backup position.. so if they get cut at the end of training camp or by the next training camp then they are a bust.
January 10th, 2013 at 2:28 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 2:24 pm
not very good ones…and not very good scouting either..
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Yeah apparently Reg fired wrong scouting guys, he should have kept the guys who brough J Russell, DHB, HUFF, Gallery, Mcfail
January 10th, 2013 at 2:28 pm
Criner is the biggest 5th round bust i’ve ever seen. Even bigger than that 7th round bust Chaz Schilenz
January 10th, 2013 at 2:28 pm
We’re doing “AL would have drafted this guy over this guy” LOL
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
January 10th, 2013 at 2:29 pm
Hard to gauge Berg and Briesel pickups with G Knapp coaching them, we will see how they fare with a real OC
January 10th, 2013 at 2:29 pm
Russell Wilson was a 3rd round pick..
January 10th, 2013 at 2:30 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 2:28 pm
We’re doing “AL would have drafted this guy over this guy” LOL
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
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LMFAO
January 10th, 2013 at 2:32 pm
DHB…. in the top 10… uh yeah I think al would have taken a shot it streater at some point in the draft.
January 10th, 2013 at 2:32 pm
DHB…. in the top 10… uh yeah I think al would have taken a shot it streater at some point in the draft.
January 10th, 2013 at 2:32 pm
Reggie will never sniff 500 as a GM.
Do the math.
FIRE REGGIE NOW.
January 10th, 2013 at 2:32 pm
DHB…. in the top 10… uh yeah I think al would have taken a shot it streater at some point in the draft.
January 10th, 2013 at 2:32 pm
Arman Shields is the biggest 4th round bust EVER.
January 10th, 2013 at 2:32 pm
Arman Shields is the biggest 4th round bust EVER.
January 10th, 2013 at 2:32 pm
844.DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 2:03 pm
I didnt know it was in Reggie’s contract that he had to inform the Raider fans on this blog of his coaching/personnel moves ahead of time..
Interesting.
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Well crap. After he approved his rookie head coach to hire some clown like Knapp as OC, I think him needing our approval is important now. Sheesh
January 10th, 2013 at 2:32 pm
both berg and briesel were brought in for zbs…now thats gone?
January 10th, 2013 at 2:32 pm
I hope we just trade back 2 spots and accumulate a 2nd rd pick, maybe a late round pick as well and still get our guy, draft is fun when your team is on the clock
January 10th, 2013 at 2:33 pm
why is repeating my post?
January 10th, 2013 at 2:34 pm
So, any word on our new OC yet?…
If not, then who is coaching the offense during the senior bowl???
January 10th, 2013 at 2:34 pm
897.DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 2:29 pm
Russell Wilson was a 3rd round pick..
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Makes him a steal. But i’m not going to argue the true defintion of a bust anymore. It’s based on Expectations i guess. I don’t expect much from 3rd round picks in the 1st year.
January 10th, 2013 at 2:35 pm
Bergstrom was a RT in college.
He’s not ZBS specific.
January 10th, 2013 at 2:35 pm
It’s a great off-season to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!
3rd-round picks busts?? Absolutely. Picks are valuable, and when they don’t pan-out, teams are (ostensibly) still looking to fill a need.
Just because the press surrounding some picks is less than with others, you don’t have to be a 1st-rounder to be a bust in this here League.
January 10th, 2013 at 2:35 pm
Well Mark’sHair maybe cuz your genius bears repeating…
January 10th, 2013 at 2:36 pm
you’re the 1 who broke down my post to 1 small point about streater.. you made it al versus hue. my post had a few points as to why I thought Reggie had a pour off season bringing in new players..
January 10th, 2013 at 2:36 pm
Bergstrom is a scrub.
January 10th, 2013 at 2:36 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 2:34 pm
897.DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 2:29 pm
Russell Wilson was a 3rd round pick..
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Makes him a steal. But i’m not going to argue the true defintion of a bust anymore. It’s based on Expectations i guess. I don’t expect much from 3rd round picks in the 1st year.
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But if its one way, shouldnt it be the other?
Do you draft the 6th round picking a guy who will only be a backup? You are shooting for studs with every pick right?
January 10th, 2013 at 2:38 pm
You made the statement that Al Davis would have drafted the UDFA Rod Streeter in the 5th round over Juron Criner.
LOL.
January 10th, 2013 at 2:39 pm
Reggie hand picked Bergstrom and Breisel to anchor the Raiders offensive line for years to come.
Reggie has an eye for talent.
January 10th, 2013 at 2:39 pm
893.mcfadden20. Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 2:28 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 2:24 pm
not very good ones…and not very good scouting either..
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Yeah apparently Reg fired wrong scouting guys, he should have kept the guys who brough J Russell, DHB, HUFF, Gallery, Mcfail
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Yeah, Huff wasn’t a Davis pick, he wanted Matt Leinart…
January 10th, 2013 at 2:39 pm
Some mock drafts have us picking Lotulelei… what do you ya’ll think?
January 10th, 2013 at 2:40 pm
Bergs age makes him look even worse.. i hope he comes alive next yr.. we need some hits
January 10th, 2013 at 2:40 pm
Leinart? LOL..
Bless you Art Shell.
January 10th, 2013 at 2:41 pm
916.DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 2:36 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 2:34 pm
897.DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 2:29 pm
Russell Wilson was a 3rd round pick..
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Makes him a steal. But i’m not going to argue the true defintion of a bust anymore. It’s based on Expectations i guess. I don’t expect much from 3rd round picks in the 1st year.
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But if its one way, shouldnt it be the other?
Do you draft the 6th round picking a guy who will only be a backup? You are shooting for studs with every pick right?
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Well in that case everyone of Reggies picks but Burris was a complete bust.
January 10th, 2013 at 2:41 pm
Guest123 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:15 pm
DA Apologists:
Please enlighten us with reasons we should be patient. Give us some pearls of wisdom that show a trend towards competence. Throw some stats out there that make your case. And then explain away the firing of 2/3rds of the key staff. I’m all ears.
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Guest123
Please tell me all the great options we had for Head Coach when we hired DA. Tell me all the great options DA had for Coordinators. Please tell me how you are supposed to get better or even stay the same if you lose key players and can’t replinish because you are not even picking till the third round and are in cap hell.
Two can play this game.
Oakland is in deep crap right now. No Gruden No Tuna No proven coach is going to come in here and sully his reputation. Reggie did the right thing by hiring an inexperieced hungry coordinator. For a franchise this messed up it was his only option. I am thankful we have RM. Heck I am even thankful for AD until around the mid 90’s. After that there was regression all the way except for the Allen and Gruden years. Even 2010 and 11 were regression considering the salaries being paid and the future mortgaged for a team that could only break even.
January 10th, 2013 at 2:42 pm
Please do not judge Briesel and Berg yet until they play for a real OC and real line coach , thank you
January 10th, 2013 at 2:42 pm
I never said the 5th. But it wouldnt have shocked me. it wouldn’t be the first guy he took 2 rounds early.
January 10th, 2013 at 2:43 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 2:41 pm
916.DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 2:36 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 2:34 pm
897.DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 2:29 pm
Russell Wilson was a 3rd round pick..
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Makes him a steal. But i’m not going to argue the true defintion of a bust anymore. It’s based on Expectations i guess. I don’t expect much from 3rd round picks in the 1st year.
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But if its one way, shouldnt it be the other?
Do you draft the 6th round picking a guy who will only be a backup? You are shooting for studs with every pick right?
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Well in that case everyone of Reggies picks but Burris was a complete bust.
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Please, tell me more about the future!!!!!
Are there flying cars?!?!?
January 10th, 2013 at 2:43 pm
Breisel is stealing money from the Raiders.
Thanks Reggie.
January 10th, 2013 at 2:44 pm
Oakland Raiders: Star Lotulelei, NT, Utah
Is there any doubt the Raiders need help at defensive tackle in the wake of Doug Martin’s near-record performance?
Richard Seymour’s contract will be voided at the end of the season. Meanwhile, Tommy Kelly is a bum who doesn’t care about winning, as evidenced when he laughed after prolonging a San Diego drive with a pair of offside penalties. He’s a thug who has played so sluggishly this year in the rare instances when he wasn’t trying to injure the opposing quarterback, so there’s no chance he’s going to see a penny of his $6.5 million salary in 2013. He’s as good as gone, and 15-year-old head coach Dennis Allen lost all respect in the locker room for not cutting him after the opener.
Star Lotulelei has been going No. 1 overall in some mocks, so he makes sense here as possibly the top player available who fills a huge need.
LMFAO @ 15 year old head coach
January 10th, 2013 at 2:45 pm
Marks hair Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 2:42 pm
I never said the 5th. But it wouldnt have shocked me. it wouldn’t be the first guy he took 2 rounds early.
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Got it, you meant over Criner in general.
Either way cant dismiss the fact McKenzie found our best WR coming out of Temple with 19 catches as an UDFA
January 10th, 2013 at 2:45 pm
Guest123 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 12:02 pm
Doesn’t seem we were ever improving with DA and I doubt that we ever will. I’m counting down the meaningless losses till Reggie saves his own backside and hires a real coach.
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Only in reduced flags. Other than that, the only thing anyone can really point to is the improved play of the defense towards the end of the year. But, before we get too excited about that, we should realize it was mostly against weak competition. The D also played well against KC earlier in the year which caused a little buzz in here, and we all know what happened after that.
January 10th, 2013 at 2:45 pm
“Well in that case everyone of Reggies picks but Burris was a complete bust.”
Really? Is someone taken at the third round who is still on the roster and started the last game of the season a bust? Is a fifth round reciever that caught more passes than Bey did his Rookie season a bust? Are 6th and 7 round picks that managed to stay on the roster and contribute and maybe develop in the future busts? I think some of the people on this board have some really unrealistic expectations.
January 10th, 2013 at 2:46 pm
Star wont make it to 3. IMO.
January 10th, 2013 at 2:46 pm
920.EMRaiders Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 2:39 pm
Some mock drafts have us picking Lotulelei… what do you ya’ll think?
^^^^^^^^
I don’t like that pick at 3.
Need to trade down and try and get some more picks.
Plenty of pass rush DE/OLB’s that are rated about the same within the 1st 12-13 picks. Can get one of those still with a trade down.
January 10th, 2013 at 2:46 pm
A real line coach?
Oh you mean like Steve Wiznewski?
Thanks Reggie.
January 10th, 2013 at 2:46 pm
if the excuse or reason for hiring DA and staff was because there was no 1 better, then why not stick with hue for a year and then hire a good coach and staff in 2013?
January 10th, 2013 at 2:48 pm
Marks Hair Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 2:46 pm
if the excuse or reason for hiring DA and staff was because there was no 1 better, then why not stick with hue for a year and then hire a good coach and staff in 2013?
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Because, he wasn’t Reggie’s gut…oops I mean guy.
January 10th, 2013 at 2:48 pm
KC will go O, jax will probably go D, maybe they will take Moore
January 10th, 2013 at 2:49 pm
There was someone better and I said it one year ago, like a 100 times.
DAVID SHAW.
January 10th, 2013 at 2:49 pm
Marks hair Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 2:46 pm
if the excuse or reason for hiring DA and staff was because there was no 1 better, then why not stick with hue for a year and then hire a good coach and staff in 2013?
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I dont believe thats ever been or was the reason.
January 10th, 2013 at 2:50 pm
I think luke and geno go before star.. id take star unless we get a nice deal.
January 10th, 2013 at 2:50 pm
Moore, werner, mingo all projected top go top 10 in some mock drafts, i personally think Moore would do more damage this year, we can’t wait for werner and mingo to develop after couple of years or make them jus situational pass rushers
January 10th, 2013 at 2:51 pm
McK screwed up by not hiring an experienced head coach who is a leader of men like Del Rio who has roots here and is a Raider fan growing up and would get the team pumped for the divsional games.
Firing a rookie 1st year in head coach in Hue and then replacing him with a younger rookie 1st year head coach was just silly.
Get me Del Rio or Gruden or Lovie or Whisenhunt ahead of this Tits DA who is in over his head as HC.
January 10th, 2013 at 2:51 pm
DKnight007 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 2:46 pm
920.EMRaiders Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 2:39 pm
Some mock drafts have us picking Lotulelei… what do you ya’ll think?
^^^^^^^^
I don’t like that pick at 3.
Need to trade down and try and get some more picks.
Plenty of pass rush DE/OLB’s that are rated about the same within the 1st 12-13 picks. Can get one of those still with a trade down.
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I agree. I think we can get a top 20 pick and a second and maybe a 7th for our pick. I think AZ could be interested…
January 10th, 2013 at 2:52 pm
Please, tell me more about the future!!!!!
Are there flying cars?!?!?
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Dennis Allen wins coach of the year, and there’s flying pigs, not cars.
January 10th, 2013 at 2:52 pm
Maybe Pitts will trade for Dmac and give us their 2nd rd pick #48 and maybe a 5th or 6th
January 10th, 2013 at 2:53 pm
The average tenure of the remaining coaches in the playoffs is 5.5 years. That means these franchises were all pretty patient. If you could change coaches as often as everyone suggests here and still be successful, one would think it would be closer to 2 or 3 years tenure.
Thats just not how it works in the NFL.
You hire a HC and you stick with him through hell and high water. Why? Because its a complicated game.
SF and Den have very good teams with coaches in their second year, but they have completely different success stories than we are facing right now. Den had a very good defense built up, plus hit the lottery with the first? HOF QB available in free agency still at the top of his game.
SF also had a very good balanced team built by nearly perfect drafting.
These are not models we can emulate.
We have to hit bottom and work our way up, and slowly but surely place a championship quality team around the coach we have now. Dennis Allen.
These are the FACTS.
This is not a quick fix league. This is not Madden or fantasy football.
January 10th, 2013 at 2:53 pm
So we can just pick a coach?
He doesnt have to want to be the HC here?
Cool.
I pick Chip Kelly.
January 10th, 2013 at 2:53 pm
Packers need a running back, maybe they can dream of their O becoming dominant with Dmac behind rodgers
January 10th, 2013 at 2:54 pm
Really, 374 days later some of you are STILL whining about Huge Jackson? MOVE ON!!
Plenty to whine about in the last year…
January 10th, 2013 at 2:54 pm
Michael turner is done in atlanta
January 10th, 2013 at 2:57 pm
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 2:43 pm
Breisel is stealing money from the Raiders.
Thanks Reggie.
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Agreed on that one. At the same time the Center for Houston was available as a FA but would cost more. Seems like he would of been a better aquisition. That Center by the way made the probowl. That would have allowed Wiz to stay at Guard and after the injuries to Wiz it is almost unfair to force a position switch as well which is inviting diaster. Diaster is a good description of the OL situation this year.
On the other hand Wheeler was a find and some of the people he brought in after injuries were quite good. It was a really good idea to resist the temptation of bringing in a FA TE. I really like Adams and Ross as backups in the Secondary and on ST. The ILB he brought in played well too and should at least be given a chance to compete for a starting spot.
Not finding a good WR with this mix espeically considering Moores and Fords procivity to be like DMAC and be injured was probably a mistake.
Bigger mistakes were not clearing out with Seymour and Kelly. I think it would have been better to let younger talent develop than keep these bloated salaries but there was a salary cap aspect to keeping Seymour that had to be considered.
January 10th, 2013 at 2:57 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 2:54 pm
Michael turner is done in atlanta
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That makes more sense than GB.
January 10th, 2013 at 2:57 pm
Reggie fires DA after another disappointing 4-12 season under Reggie.
January 10th, 2013 at 2:58 pm
Teams that need rb
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Jets
Bungals
Sh1tters
Cobwebs
Lions
packers
falcons
cardinals
January 10th, 2013 at 2:58 pm
Michael Turner is done cuz ~350 carries in a season x several seasons, dooms most human bodies…
January 10th, 2013 at 2:58 pm
Fire DA??
We’ll have an indication by next season’s bye week whether or not we’re on the right track.
No matter when the bye week is…if this Team is more than 1-game below the .500 mark, DA will be on the hottest of hot seats (precluding major injury to one or more of its “cogs,” such as #1 QB or #1 RB, etc).
ReggieMcK and DA need to pick better Asst Coaches. ReggieMcK needs to have a great draft, no excuses…and to make BETTER Free Agent decisions. His FA decisions last year were far from superior, as most of those signings did not perform well (Streater being one obvious exception).
I have faith they’ll get it done, but Reggie and DA get no free pass here…either they get results next year — and be in Playoff contention until at least December — or we start fresh again in ‘14.
Greg Knapp gone = instant improvement on O…unless we bring in another ZBS clone. Give Tarver some Cornerbacks, and watch this Defense become legit.
8-8’s not that far-off, with a few upgrades at O-line/CB/D-line(/durable RB?). Once we scrap our way back to mediocrity, it’ll be the jump out of the .500 range that will be the hardest one to overcome. Mediocre is easy.
January 10th, 2013 at 2:59 pm
I expect better than 8-8 next year
January 10th, 2013 at 3:00 pm
ReggieMack’s single biggest success of 2012 was the GEM of getting Big Dick Seymour’s contract to void in ‘13. Freakin genius….
January 10th, 2013 at 3:00 pm
I dont care about hue.. my point was keeping coaches fir consistencies sake or because you can’t find someone else better at that particular moment doesn’t make a lot of sense.. reggie went with his gut.. thats it.. going with del rio or hue would had made more sense..
January 10th, 2013 at 3:00 pm
“Get me Del Rio or Gruden or Lovie or Whisenhunt ahead of this Tits DA who is in over his head as HC.”
Out of this entire list only Del Rio might consider coming to Oakland and his record was as bad as DA’s. Jeez if any coach can come here I vote Sean Payton or Bill Bellicheck.
January 10th, 2013 at 3:01 pm
Raiders need a new stadium
January 10th, 2013 at 3:02 pm
I’m going with John Madden or Vince Lombardi…
January 10th, 2013 at 3:02 pm
959. True.. reggie did that one right. Props
January 10th, 2013 at 3:03 pm
God Bless.
January 10th, 2013 at 3:03 pm
The Jags HC got fired today. Maybe there is still hope that DA will be fired.
January 10th, 2013 at 3:04 pm
So Seymour’s contract is voided, Kelly will be gone, McClain will be gone, DHBs contract would be restructured, Palmer restructured, Mcfadden gone that should free up about 35 Million LOL
January 10th, 2013 at 3:05 pm
Raiders need a new GM.
January 10th, 2013 at 3:06 pm
Marks hair Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 3:00 pm
I dont care about hue.. my point was keeping coaches fir consistencies sake or because you can’t find someone else better at that particular moment doesn’t make a lot of sense.. reggie went with his gut.. thats it.. going with del rio or hue would had made more sense..
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Completely irrelevant. He hired Dennis Allen, and that is who we should stick with for at least three years.
Kubiak was 6-10 in his 5th year and they still stuck with him. They look like a perenial playoff team now.
If Raider fans were in charge Houston would be on HC number 5 by now.
January 10th, 2013 at 3:07 pm
Kyle Long in 3rd rd? sounds good
January 10th, 2013 at 3:08 pm
“Raiders need a new GM.”
“Raiders need a new Head coach”
“Raiders need a new stadium”
“Raiders need some play makers”
Needy Place! LOL
January 10th, 2013 at 3:09 pm
Gdog Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 3:06 pm
Marks hair Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 3:00 pm
I dont care about hue.. my point was keeping coaches fir consistencies sake or because you can’t find someone else better at that particular moment doesn’t make a lot of sense.. reggie went with his gut.. thats it.. going with del rio or hue would had made more sense..
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Completely irrelevant. He hired Dennis Allen, and that is who we should stick with for at least three years.
Kubiak was 6-10 in his 5th year and they still stuck with him. They look like a perenial playoff team now.
If Raider fans were in charge Houston would be on HC number 5 by now.
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If they were in charge of whiners (i wish) when B walsh was there, they would have had 0 trophies instead of 5, if they were in charge of steelers (i wish ) They wouldn’t have won 4 superbowls in 70s and early 80s, if they were on Pats (i wish) they would have fired Belichick after 1st year
January 10th, 2013 at 3:10 pm
Give me a break! Reggie and Denise are the worse coach GM combination in the world and you all know it.Some just dont want to admit it.Please.
January 10th, 2013 at 3:10 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 2:58 pm
Teams that need rb
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Jets
Bungals
Sh1tters
Cobwebs
Lions
packers
falcons
cardinals
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RAIDERS
(with or without DMC still here)
January 10th, 2013 at 3:11 pm
kubiak svck donkey d!ck….marty part 2
January 10th, 2013 at 3:11 pm
944.EMRaiders Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 2:51 pm
DKnight007 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 2:46 pm
920.EMRaiders Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 2:39 pm
Some mock drafts have us picking Lotulelei… what do you ya’ll think?
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I don’t like that pick at 3.
Need to trade down and try and get some more picks.
Plenty of pass rush DE/OLB’s that are rated about the same within the 1st 12-13 picks. Can get one of those still with a trade down.
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I agree. I think we can get a top 20 pick and a second and maybe a 7th for our pick. I think AZ could be interested…
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Yeah. AZ, Rams or Fins. Or bait the Eagles into switching spots with us if Joekel falls to us at #3.
You know Philly will want a LT like Joekel. Their OLine was banged up bad this year.
January 10th, 2013 at 3:12 pm
1960AutumnWind Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 3:08 pm
“Raiders need a new GM.”
“Raiders need a new Head coach”
“Raiders need a new stadium”
“Raiders need some play makers”
Needy Place! LOL
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These “fans” probably want new hot dog wrappers too. And different mustard.
January 10th, 2013 at 3:14 pm
So Raiders need for long term:
#1 a WR but could live without one this year
#2 a RT
#3 a DE
#4 a DT
#5 a MLB
#6 a CB
#7 a FS
So many needs only a few picks, trade Dmac, Mcshooter,Kelly, for draft picks
January 10th, 2013 at 3:14 pm
It’s not hard to see if Teams respond to their HC’s…and you don’t need to wait until the end of the season to see it.
If the Raiders don’t respond favorably to DA’s and ReggieMcK’s ministrations next year, there’s no reason to give them another. 2-years is enough for change to be positive…and 3-years is enough to be in the Playoffs. They better get it done.
January 10th, 2013 at 3:15 pm
4-12 in 2013.These guys suck.
January 10th, 2013 at 3:15 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 2:58 pm
Fire DA??
We’ll have an indication by next season’s bye week whether or not we’re on the right track.
No matter when the bye week is…if this Team is more than 1-game below the .500 mark, DA will be on the hottest of hot seats (precluding major injury to one or more of its “cogs,” such as #1 QB or #1 RB, etc).
ReggieMcK and DA need to pick better Asst Coaches. ReggieMcK needs to have a great draft, no excuses…and to make BETTER Free Agent decisions. His FA decisions last year were far from superior, as most of those signings did not perform well (Streater being one obvious exception).
I have faith they’ll get it done, but Reggie and DA get no free pass here…either they get results next year — and be in Playoff contention until at least December — or we start fresh again in ‘14.
Greg Knapp gone = instant improvement on O…unless we bring in another ZBS clone. Give Tarver some Cornerbacks, and watch this Defense become legit.
8-8’s not that far-off, with a few upgrades at O-line/CB/D-line(/durable RB?). Once we scrap our way back to mediocrity, it’ll be the jump out of the .500 range that will be the hardest one to overcome. Mediocre is easy.
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I hate to burst everyones bubble here but we are not going to get any of these players in fact the roster will have a similiar talent level as last year. Our only hope is some of our existing guys step up and we get real lucky with our draft pics.
Here are my predictions
Meyers walks
Shonasty Walks
Briesel will be cut
Kelly will be cut or traded
Most of the 18 FAs that want a payday will be gone. We will only make a real attempt to Keep Wheeler and Bryant
If we stay zbs McFadden will be traded for a 4th round pick
We will get some defensive depth from the draft. We will sign in some vets at vet minimum to fill in like last year.
We will go 6-10 with an improved defense and most everyone here will blame the coaching and Carson Palmer.
January 10th, 2013 at 3:20 pm
No draft picks in 2nd and 5th rounds? does anyone knows if we will get any comp picks?
January 10th, 2013 at 3:20 pm
We will go 6-10 with an improved defense and most everyone here will blame the coaching and Carson Palmer.
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True dat.
January 10th, 2013 at 3:23 pm
ok one site tells me we will get 1 4th rd comp pick and 3 6th rd comp picks
January 10th, 2013 at 3:23 pm
“So many needs only a few picks, trade Dmac, Mcshooter,Kelly, for draft picks”
DMAC maybe a 3rd probably a 4th (last year of contract and injury prone)
McShooter no one will give up a pick for that dumpfire.
Kelly – Contract probably to screwed up have to cut. Mabye a 7th.
Only get a 4th for all that that is how bad our talent/contracts are right now!!!!!!!!!!!
January 10th, 2013 at 3:24 pm
MFad 20
Dead on for needs list though!
January 10th, 2013 at 3:29 pm
oakfshow Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 3:10 pm
Give me a break! Reggie and Denise are the worse coach GM combination in the world and you all know it.Some just dont want to admit it.Please.
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Please see exhibit A – New York Jets
Exhibit B – Jacksonville Jags
Exhibit C – Maimi Dolphins especially the GM
Exhibit D – The Dallas Cowboys (remember JJ said he was mentored by the old AD) How can someone do so little with so much!!!
January 10th, 2013 at 3:29 pm
1st rd – DE
3rd – CB
4th – DT
4th c – RT
6th – TE
6th C – RB
6th C – FS
6th C – MLB
7TH – DE
January 10th, 2013 at 3:30 pm
1960AutumnWind Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 3:24 pm
MFad 20
Dead on for needs list though!
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I still say we need to upgrade at TE as well, Myers blocking wasn’t good
January 10th, 2013 at 3:32 pm
McFad
What about a Center? It seems like Wiz is better at Guard? If we keep our pick it would be cool to have a player like Jarvis Jones.
January 10th, 2013 at 3:34 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 3:12 pm
1960AutumnWind Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 3:08 pm
“Raiders need a new GM.”
“Raiders need a new Head coach”
“Raiders need a new stadium”
“Raiders need some play makers”
Needy Place! LOL
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These “fans” probably want new hot dog wrappers too. And different mustard.
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And BJs from the cheerleaders at halftime.
January 10th, 2013 at 3:35 pm
1960AutumnWind Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 3:32 pm
McFad
What about a Center? It seems like Wiz is better at Guard? If we keep our pick it would be cool to have a player like Jarvis Jones.
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Yea makes sense, if we can get some one like Barret Jones at center and slide wiz to LG , it would solidify our left side of line for 7+ years
January 10th, 2013 at 3:35 pm
Aight I’m out have a good day nation
January 10th, 2013 at 3:37 pm
I am heading out too. Maybe we get our savior OC tommrow….
January 10th, 2013 at 3:42 pm
Steelers cut Chris Rainey hours after arrest
The Steelers didn’t take long to react after running back Chris Rainey was arrested this morning and accused of slapping his girlfriend.
Just hours after the arrest, the Steelers announced that they waived Rainey. And the team made no secret of the fact that the arrest is what cost him his job.
“Chris Rainey’s actions this morning were extremely disappointing,” Steelers General Manager Kevin Colbert said in a statement released by the team. “Under the circumstances and due to this conduct, Chris will no longer be a member of the Pittsburgh Steelers.”
This is at least the second time that Rainey has been accused of a crime in which the victim was a woman he was in a relationship with. In 2010, when he played at Florida, he was arrested and charged with felony stalking after threatening his ex-girlfriend.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/10/steelers-cut-chris-rainey-hours-after-arrest/
January 10th, 2013 at 3:42 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 3:14 pm
It’s not hard to see if Teams respond to their HC’s…and you don’t need to wait until the end of the season to see it.
If the Raiders don’t respond favorably to DA’s and ReggieMcK’s ministrations next year, there’s no reason to give them another. 2-years is enough for change to be positive…and 3-years is enough to be in the Playoffs. They better get it done.
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If we had given each coach three years after Callahan got fired, we’d be just now finishing the tenure of our third coach.
We could prolly be taking our pick of the litter right now…
January 10th, 2013 at 3:46 pm
978.mcfadden20. Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 3:14 pm
So Raiders need for long term:
#1 a WR but could live without one this year
#2 a RT
#3 a DE
#4 a DT
#5 a MLB
#6 a CB
#7 a FS
So many needs only a few picks, trade Dmac, Mcshooter,Kelly, for draft picks
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You cant fill every hole in one offseason.
January 10th, 2013 at 3:47 pm
Gdog Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 2:53 pm
The average tenure of the remaining coaches in the playoffs is 5.5 years. That means these franchises were all pretty patient. If you could change coaches as often as everyone suggests here and still be successful, one would think it would be closer to 2 or 3 years tenure.
Thats just not how it works in the NFL.
You hire a HC and you stick with him through hell and high water. Why? Because its a complicated game.
SF and Den have very good teams with coaches in their second year, but they have completely different success stories than we are facing right now. Den had a very good defense built up, plus hit the lottery with the first? HOF QB available in free agency still at the top of his game.
SF also had a very good balanced team built by nearly perfect drafting.
These are not models we can emulate.
We have to hit bottom and work our way up, and slowly but surely place a championship quality team around the coach we have now. Dennis Allen.
These are the FACTS.
This is not a quick fix league. This is not Madden or fantasy football.
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2 years ago, Denver gave up 59 points to us, then they drafted Miller & went to the playoffs as division champs Fox’s rookie year.
SF had the 24th ranked offense & jumped to 11th a year ago under Harbaugh who was in his rookie year and took that team to the NFC title game with a guy who was considered a #1 overall bust.
John Harbaugh has gone to the playoffs every year. Of course he was taking over a perennial playoff team.
Mike McCarthy took over a 4-12 team and went 8-8 his 1st year, then went 13-3 his 2nd year.
Pete Carroll took over a 5-11 team went 7-9 & won a playoff game his rookie year. He matched it with a 7-9 record last year.
Gary Kubiak took over a 2-14 team & won 6 games. He also never had another losing season until about 2 years ago then hired Wade Philips to run his D.
I think looking at all these examples it shows that this is a QUICK fix league. You know kind of like the one guy that proved it, who by being the only person in the past 10 years who didn’t experience a double digit losing season
January 10th, 2013 at 3:47 pm
995.KoolKell Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 3:42 pm
Steelers cut Chris Rainey hours after arrest
The Steelers didn’t take long to react after running back Chris Rainey was arrested this morning and accused of slapping his girlfriend.
Just hours after the arrest, the Steelers announced that they waived Rainey. And the team made no secret of the fact that the arrest is what cost him his job.
“Chris Rainey’s actions this morning were extremely disappointing,” Steelers General Manager Kevin Colbert said in a statement released by the team. “Under the circumstances and due to this conduct, Chris will no longer be a member of the Pittsburgh Steelers.”
This is at least the second time that Rainey has been accused of a crime in which the victim was a woman he was in a relationship with. In 2010, when he played at Florida, he was arrested and charged with felony stalking after threatening his ex-girlfriend.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/10/steelers-cut-chris-rainey-hours-after-arrest/
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Big Ben’s arrest?
January 10th, 2013 at 3:58 pm
2 years ago, Denver gave up 59 points to us, then they drafted Miller & went to the playoffs as division champs Fox’s rookie year.
SF had the 24th ranked offense & jumped to 11th a year ago under Harbaugh who was in his rookie year and took that team to the NFC title game with a guy who was considered a #1 overall bust.
John Harbaugh has gone to the playoffs every year. Of course he was taking over a perennial playoff team.
Mike McCarthy took over a 4-12 team and went 8-8 his 1st year, then went 13-3 his 2nd year.
Pete Carroll took over a 5-11 team went 7-9 & won a playoff game his rookie year. He matched it with a 7-9 record last year.
Gary Kubiak took over a 2-14 team & won 6 games. He also never had another losing season until about 2 years ago then hired Wade Philips to run his D.
I think looking at all these examples it shows that this is a QUICK fix league. You know kind of like the one guy that proved it, who by being the only person in the past 10 years who didn’t experience a double digit losing season
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So all we have to do is have a great defense like Harbaugh inherited in SF, or pick up a HOF QB like Denver?
Every other team has over three years into their coach… not exactly “quick.”
January 10th, 2013 at 4:01 pm
Gdog Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 3:58 pm
2 years ago, Denver gave up 59 points to us, then they drafted Miller & went to the playoffs as division champs Fox’s rookie year.
SF had the 24th ranked offense & jumped to 11th a year ago under Harbaugh who was in his rookie year and took that team to the NFC title game with a guy who was considered a #1 overall bust.
John Harbaugh has gone to the playoffs every year. Of course he was taking over a perennial playoff team.
Mike McCarthy took over a 4-12 team and went 8-8 his 1st year, then went 13-3 his 2nd year.
Pete Carroll took over a 5-11 team went 7-9 & won a playoff game his rookie year. He matched it with a 7-9 record last year.
Gary Kubiak took over a 2-14 team & won 6 games. He also never had another losing season until about 2 years ago then hired Wade Philips to run his D.
I think looking at all these examples it shows that this is a QUICK fix league. You know kind of like the one guy that proved it, who by being the only person in the past 10 years who didn’t experience a double digit losing season
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So all we have to do is have a great defense like Harbaugh inherited in SF, or pick up a HOF QB like Denver?
Every other team has over three years into their coach… not exactly “quick
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I think the point is, coaches with success improve from year to year instead to regressing to the point of being a laughing stock.
January 10th, 2013 at 4:02 pm
Mike McCarthy took over a 4-12 team and went 8-8 his 1st year, then went 13-3 his 2nd year.
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Farve? All we have to do is get a HOF QB or a great defense and QUICK FIX IT IS!
Please.
Changing HC’s again is not a quick fix. Just more 4-8 win seasons non-stop.
We hopefully hit bottom… time to start climbing back up.
Changing HC yet again is not the answer.
January 10th, 2013 at 4:03 pm
I think the point is, coaches with success improve from year to year instead to regressing to the point of being a laughing stock.
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Kubiak went to 6-10 in year five.
Raider fans would have burned him at the stake.
Where is he now?
January 10th, 2013 at 4:04 pm
The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 3:47 pm
Gdog Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 2:53 pm
The average tenure of the remaining coaches in the playoffs is 5.5 years. That means these franchises were all pretty patient. If you could change coaches as often as everyone suggests here and still be successful, one would think it would be closer to 2 or 3 years tenure.
Thats just not how it works in the NFL.
You hire a HC and you stick with him through hell and high water. Why? Because its a complicated game.
SF and Den have very good teams with coaches in their second year, but they have completely different success stories than we are facing right now. Den had a very good defense built up, plus hit the lottery with the first? HOF QB available in free agency still at the top of his game.
SF also had a very good balanced team built by nearly perfect drafting.
These are not models we can emulate.
We have to hit bottom and work our way up, and slowly but surely place a championship quality team around the coach we have now. Dennis Allen.
These are the FACTS.
This is not a quick fix league. This is not Madden or fantasy football.
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2 years ago, Denver gave up 59 points to us, then they drafted Miller & went to the playoffs as division champs Fox’s rookie year.
SF had the 24th ranked offense & jumped to 11th a year ago under Harbaugh who was in his rookie year and took that team to the NFC title game with a guy who was considered a #1 overall bust.
John Harbaugh has gone to the playoffs every year. Of course he was taking over a perennial playoff team.
Mike McCarthy took over a 4-12 team and went 8-8 his 1st year, then went 13-3 his 2nd year.
Pete Carroll took over a 5-11 team went 7-9 & won a playoff game his rookie year. He matched it with a 7-9 record last year.
Gary Kubiak took over a 2-14 team & won 6 games. He also never had another losing season until about 2 years ago then hired Wade Philips to run his D.
I think looking at all these examples it shows that this is a QUICK fix league. You know kind of like the one guy that proved it, who by being the only person in the past 10 years who didn’t experience a double digit losing season
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Denver had the number one running attack in the league last year, winning with smoke and mirrors when our division was down. We don’t have the number one running attack. In fact, ours is near dead last.
SF had one of the top three or four defenses in the league when Harbaugh took over. Does that sound like us?
Mike McCarthy took over a team that went 4-12 the year before. But the three years before that team went 12-4, 10-6, 10-6. Does that sound like us?
Pete Carroll took over a team that went to the Super Bowl a few years prior. Does that sound like us?
Kubiak had one, ONE winning season his first six years in Houston. Even THAT is better than us. It took him SEVEN YEARS to get his team on track.
The difference between EVERY example you gave and us, is those teams had SOMETHING to build around. What do we have to build around here? The punter?
January 10th, 2013 at 4:05 pm
McCarthy at GB was 6-10 year three…
Raider fans would have burned him at the stake (esp after dumping Farve.)
Where is HE now?
January 10th, 2013 at 4:11 pm
Did any of the those coaches regress 4 games in their first season like Reggie and DA?
January 10th, 2013 at 4:12 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 4:04 pm
Denver had the number one running attack in the league last year, winning with smoke and mirrors when our division was down. We don’t have the number one running attack. In fact, ours is near dead last.
SF had one of the top three or four defenses in the league when Harbaugh took over. Does that sound like us?
Mike McCarthy took over a team that went 4-12 the year before. But the three years before that team went 12-4, 10-6, 10-6. Does that sound like us?
Pete Carroll took over a team that went to the Super Bowl a few years prior. Does that sound like us?
Kubiak had one, ONE winning season his first six years in Houston. Even THAT is better than us. It took him SEVEN YEARS to get his team on track.
The difference between EVERY example you gave and us, is those teams had SOMETHING to build around. What do we have to build around here? The punter?
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Well damn.. somebody here gets it.
Ya don’t fire coaches to the top.
Most of the most stable franchises picked a coach and stuck with him.
The only other examples are teams with everything already set in place (Gruden, Harbaugh.)
Our defense will take perfect drafting and FA signings to become mediocre.
Look, I am not sold on McK or DA either… but most reasonable football fans realize you can’t fire 5 coaches in 8 years and expect to be a great franchise.
January 10th, 2013 at 4:14 pm
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 4:11 pm
Did any of the those coaches regress 4 games in their first season like Reggie and DA?
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I doubt anyone cared.
The NFL fans that expect instant gratification after a DECADE of suckiness better start watching the NBA.
This is not getting fixed in one season.
Get over it…
January 10th, 2013 at 4:15 pm
Gdog Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 3:58 pm
2 years ago, Denver gave up 59 points to us, then they drafted Miller & went to the playoffs as division champs Fox’s rookie year.
SF had the 24th ranked offense & jumped to 11th a year ago under Harbaugh who was in his rookie year and took that team to the NFC title game with a guy who was considered a #1 overall bust.
John Harbaugh has gone to the playoffs every year. Of course he was taking over a perennial playoff team.
Mike McCarthy took over a 4-12 team and went 8-8 his 1st year, then went 13-3 his 2nd year.
Pete Carroll took over a 5-11 team went 7-9 & won a playoff game his rookie year. He matched it with a 7-9 record last year.
Gary Kubiak took over a 2-14 team & won 6 games. He also never had another losing season until about 2 years ago then hired Wade Philips to run his D.
I think looking at all these examples it shows that this is a QUICK fix league. You know kind of like the one guy that proved it, who by being the only person in the past 10 years who didn’t experience a double digit losing season
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So all we have to do is have a great defense like Harbaugh inherited in SF, or pick up a HOF QB like Denver?
Every other team has over three years into their coach… not exactly “quick.”
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Great defense that Harbaugh received huh? They were 16th in points allowed the year before he came. They were 2nd HIS Rookie year. Are you trying to say he inherited a “Great” defense? That’s funny…Again, what don’t you understand about Denver going to the playoffs in Fox’s 1st season? They CATERED their offense to Tebow just to win.
>>very other team has over three years into their coach… not exactly “quick.”>>
Harbuah(s) playoffs rookie year
Carroll playoffs rookie year
McCarthy NFC title game 2nd season after 4 game improvement his rookie year.
Smith playoffs rookie year
Fox playoffs 1st year with Tim freaking Tebow.
Belicheat superbowl 2nd season.
Guess what you can defend Denise all you want, but if this pansy doesn’t have us looking good by the bye, he’s gone….and if you’re so concerned about coaching turnover did you want Hue to stay?
January 10th, 2013 at 4:17 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 3:47 pm
995.KoolKell Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 3:42 pm
Steelers cut Chris Rainey hours after arrest
The Steelers didn’t take long to react after running back Chris Rainey was arrested this morning and accused of slapping his girlfriend.
Just hours after the arrest, the Steelers announced that they waived Rainey. And the team made no secret of the fact that the arrest is what cost him his job.
“Chris Rainey’s actions this morning were extremely disappointing,” Steelers General Manager Kevin Colbert said in a statement released by the team. “Under the circumstances and due to this conduct, Chris will no longer be a member of the Pittsburgh Steelers.”
This is at least the second time that Rainey has been accused of a crime in which the victim was a woman he was in a relationship with. In 2010, when he played at Florida, he was arrested and charged with felony stalking after threatening his ex-girlfriend.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/10/steelers-cut-chris-rainey-hours-after-arrest/
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Big Ben’s arrest?
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Pittsburgh reserves the right to act all high and mighty UNLESS it is a player they don’t wanna lose.
January 10th, 2013 at 4:18 pm
EVERYBODY that fired a HC, OC, or DC are making moves and interviewing guys.
“Cowboys eye Monte Kiffin for DC”
Raiders= silence
I’m telling you guys Raiders will end up with another crappy OC.
January 10th, 2013 at 4:19 pm
Seymour, excellent post. Patience is something that fake “fans” don’t understand.
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“SF had one of the top three or four defenses in the league when Harbaugh took over. Does that sound like us?
Mike McCarthy took over a team that went 4-12 the year before. But the three years before that team went 12-4, 10-6, 10-6. Does that sound like us?
Pete Carroll took over a team that went to the Super Bowl a few years prior. Does that sound like us?
Kubiak had one, ONE winning season his first six years in Houston. Even THAT is better than us. It took him SEVEN YEARS to get his team on track.
The difference between EVERY example you gave and us, is those teams had SOMETHING to build around. What do we have to build around here? The punter?”
January 10th, 2013 at 4:20 pm
RaidO
do you have any proof that teams who hire coaches right away have better success?
I would BET that teams who hire assistants LAST, meaning they usually ended up with playoff or Super Bowl assistants, did just as well.
January 10th, 2013 at 4:21 pm
In fact, RaidO
we hired Knapp ONE DAY after we hired our head coach.
What’s the rush???? Find the right guy, not the guy out of the playoffs itching for interviews right away.
January 10th, 2013 at 4:21 pm
There were SEVEN NEW GM’s in the league this past yr. who had never been a GM before.
ONLY the Raiders GM ended the yr. with a worse record than what he inherited.
January 10th, 2013 at 4:25 pm
Sign Chris Rainey!!!
January 10th, 2013 at 4:25 pm
Alex7 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 4:20 pm
RaidO
do you have any proof that teams who hire coaches right away have better success?
I would BET that teams who hire assistants LAST, meaning they usually ended up with playoff or Super Bowl assistants, did just as well.
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Hey, Al used to take a long time to do a hire but he would still do interviews “pick brain’s” etc, etc. A lot of good coaches out there right now.
That “New Era” talk is complete BS.
January 10th, 2013 at 4:26 pm
DA and knapp made the Raiders look talentless. But the lack of talent rested in the coaching staff, not the players. DA and knapp inappropiately mis used the talent we had, along with the scrubs Reggie brought in, to make us look talentless. But that was not the case. DA, knapp and Reggie one would guess, are sadists. Inflicting this kind of pain on the fans was wrong. Even tho they probably enjoyed the pain, we fans have to embrace it, but we don’t have to like it.
January 10th, 2013 at 4:26 pm
Great defense that Harbaugh received huh? They were 16th in points allowed the year before he came. They were 2nd HIS Rookie year. Are you trying to say he inherited a “Great” defense? That’s funny…Again, what don’t you understand about Denver going to the playoffs in Fox’s 1st season? They CATERED their offense to Tebow just to win.
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You are just throwing out numbers. I asked “what do we have to build around here?” Harbaugh had an excellent defense. And using Denver as an example is kind of weak. Teblow’s miracle after miracle season got that team basically to .500. Sure, they put Teblows in a high school offense and opponents were not used to that, and Denver won. Yee haw. Good for them. But look at Green Bay. Year after year, they are in the hunt. That’s what we are trying to do here. Not just come up with some gadget offense to win a few games in a down year so the fans can feel good about themselves.
January 10th, 2013 at 4:27 pm
Burton Guster Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 4:26 pm
DA and knapp made the Raiders look talentless. But the lack of talent rested in the coaching staff, not the players.
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Then why has NO coach been able to win here, and yet those coaches go else where and win?
January 10th, 2013 at 4:28 pm
Truth be told Reggie Mac is not a major improvement over Al. Our roster sucks, personnel moves took too long, the coaching staff have no clue how to win friggin games (save vs. KC)… I thought Al was the worse GM in football, but Reggie has not proved to be any better…you preach patience, I say you earn patience with improvement! the team got worse as the season progressed, friggin games were over by halftime. pathetic.
January 10th, 2013 at 4:29 pm
I recognize that the 8-8 record Reggie inherited is widely considered to be the worst situation in the history of sports, but let’s please put to rest the “he was a 1st time GM and he deserves some slack” thing. That part has been proven to be invalid.
The “he inherited the worst situation in the history of mankind” thing will suffice.
January 10th, 2013 at 4:29 pm
RaidO Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 4:18 pm
EVERYBODY that fired a HC, OC, or DC are making moves and interviewing guys.
“Cowboys eye Monte Kiffin for DC”
Raiders= silence
I’m telling you guys Raiders will end up with another crappy OC.
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Reggie and DA have no idea what to do. They have never been in this position before. Even tho DA hired a failed experiment, him and Reggie are still clueless. Even tho the Raider OC position may sound glamorous, who’s gonna take it that has any balls? We will wind up with a no name upstart, who by the way, will be clueless. Embrace the futility.
January 10th, 2013 at 4:30 pm
I keep asking you guys, what do we have to build on around here?
January 10th, 2013 at 4:30 pm
RaidO
Al Davis, after all his “brain picking”, put up a record 7 straight 10+ loss seasons.
So you’re saying that was somehow a good thing to do?
January 10th, 2013 at 4:32 pm
Cmon, Knapp coundn’t get a 6 yard run even on the 3rd and 20s. Coaching staff sucked! The D? yeah, yeah no talent, but good coaches bring out the smoke and mirrors and get stops (150 points in 3 games?) and dont blitz the safety from 15 yards deep every friggin 3rd down! wtf?
January 10th, 2013 at 4:32 pm
Denver had the number one running attack in the league last year, winning with smoke and mirrors when our division was down. We don’t have the number one running attack. In fact, ours is near dead last.
SF had one of the top three or four defenses in the league when Harbaugh took over. Does that sound like us?
Mike McCarthy took over a team that went 4-12 the year before. But the three years before that team went 12-4, 10-6, 10-6. Does that sound like us?
Pete Carroll took over a team that went to the Super Bowl a few years prior. Does that sound like us?
Kubiak had one, ONE winning season his first six years in Houston. Even THAT is better than us. It took him SEVEN YEARS to get his team on track.
The difference between EVERY example you gave and us, is those teams had SOMETHING to build around. What do we have to build around here? The punter?
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A few years prior for Carroll? It was FIVE years prior & took over two double-digit losing seasons, one where a guy only lasted 1 season.
Harbaugh INSTANLTY upgraded their scoring ranks on defense AND offense by double-digits. Go look at what Singletary did in his tenure, ONE season where they were elite. They weren’t a great defense every year!
No McCarthy’s situation doesn’t sound like us. His GM let his HC have a season to prove his worth. Sherman bombed & McCarthy stepped in.
Denver had the #1 running attack thanks to Teblow…Yeah NO FU**ING sh!t our run game is dead last! What was it the prior 2 seasons under Hue?
ANd what was our offense like before Hue came here? YOu guys hear cry no coaching change, yet you will sit here & argue why Hue had to be fired. Hilarious!
I said it before & I will say it again. Denise’s situation was not nearly as bad as Hue’s. Nobody held a gun to his head & told him to hire Greg freaking Knapp. He has got this season to prove something. Otherwise, it is a FU**king waste of time!(if not already)
January 10th, 2013 at 4:33 pm
Then why has NO coach been able to win here, and yet those coaches go else where and win?
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We were 8-8 and poised at the doorstep. What you talkin about. HueJax, and Cable, had us fighting. Last year, we had the knapp equavalent at DC. Yes, last year we were ready to vault. Anybody and their uncle knew that. Now, 4-12 is very possible next year.
January 10th, 2013 at 4:34 pm
Davis left us a TERRIBLE roster, no cap room, and Hue left us ZERO 1st or 2nd round picks…
and you’re perplexed why we didn’t improve immediately after that?
Really guys? This is what gives Oakland fans the “dumb wanna-be” stereotype. (Not to mention Manning, Brees, and Matt Ryan showed up on the schedule for an automatic 4 losses.)
January 10th, 2013 at 4:35 pm
Look, I am not sold on McK or DA either… but most reasonable football fans realize you can’t fire 5 coaches in 8 years and expect to be a great franchise.
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No doubt, why you think I wanted Hue to stick around with a competent DC?..BTW, sticking with suckiness for the sake of continuity is wrong too.(See Jamarcus getting cut faster than any other #1 overall pick in history)
January 10th, 2013 at 4:37 pm
alex7 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 4:34 pm
Davis left us a TERRIBLE roster, no cap room, and Hue left us ZERO 1st or 2nd round picks…
and you’re perplexed why we didn’t improve immediately after that?
Really guys?
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Really.
January 10th, 2013 at 4:37 pm
If Gruden sits out one more year, good chance he’ll be here next year. Does anyone really see DA better than 4-12?
January 10th, 2013 at 4:38 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 4:30 pm
I keep asking you guys, what do we have to build on around here?
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Palmer, Dmac, Veldeer, Wiz, Dmoore, Ford, Reece, 3rd overall pick.
Houston, Bryant, Burris, Huff.
January 10th, 2013 at 4:39 pm
alex7 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 4:34 pm
Davis left us a TERRIBLE roster, no cap room, and Hue left us ZERO 1st or 2nd round picks…
and you’re perplexed why we didn’t improve immediately after that?
Really guys? This is what gives Oakland fans the “dumb wanna-be” stereotype. (Not to mention Manning, Brees, and Matt Ryan showed up on the schedule for an automatic 4 losses.)
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Blame everything on the late Mr Davis. How convenient.
January 10th, 2013 at 4:39 pm
James Trapp
please, please tell us how our roster compares to the 49ers roster that Harbaugh took over,
or the Denver roster with established Pro Bowlers on defense AND offense LAST YEAR
or the Packers roster with HALL OF FAMERS on offense AND defense
or the Seahawks roster draft with ACTUAL 1st ROUNDERS (Earl Thomas), and former Pro Bowlers at RB, WR, LT, and an environment where quality coaches WANTED to work.
January 10th, 2013 at 4:40 pm
Al left us a garbage roster that yielded an 8-8 record. Reggie Mcmumbles made it worse and got us to 4-12.
January 10th, 2013 at 4:41 pm
Hue WOULD’VE been 12-4 if not for the D.
Buff
Den
Det
SD
ALL GAMES THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN WON. PLAYOFFS EASILY QUITE SIMPLE.
January 10th, 2013 at 4:41 pm
Burton
you have no argument to the contrary? Davis, our GM, loses 10+ games for a record 7 straight years, loses quality assistants like Harbaugh, Pagano, and Schneider because of the work environment,
KILLS our present and future with terrible draft picks…
OVERPAYS for Kelly, DeAngelo Hall, Walker, Seymour…
that’s nothing to you?
January 10th, 2013 at 4:42 pm
And I dont even think the roster is the problem. Its the clueless coaching, the idiotic playcalling (on both sides), and the lack of leadership.
January 10th, 2013 at 4:43 pm
There’s no excuse for 4-12. Wasn’t ok when Al did it, definetly not ok with Reggie doing it.
But Reggie, DA and Tarver have their passes validated for the next season so….
Commitment to Regression
January 10th, 2013 at 4:43 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 4:30 pm
I keep asking you guys, what do we have to build on around here?
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The late Mr Davis haters would like to think no one. Raider fans believe we have CP3 and Pryor, WizII, DHB, DMoore and Streater, Jano, King and Condo, McFadden and Reece, Veldeer, Bryant, Houston, Burris, Huff, upcoming picks and FA aquisitions. Any legit and bona fide coach and staff can most certainly build around that. If you’re a Al Davis hater, then might as well and vanilla-ize the team and move on.
January 10th, 2013 at 4:44 pm
Burton Guster Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 4:33 pm
Then why has NO coach been able to win here, and yet those coaches go else where and win?
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We were 8-8 and poised at the doorstep. What you talkin about. HueJax, and Cable, had us fighting. Last year, we had the knapp equavalent at DC. Yes, last year we were ready to vault. Anybody and their uncle knew that. Now, 4-12 is very possible next year.
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Bingo
January 10th, 2013 at 4:44 pm
Simple question Blog:
Do you understand that, mathematically, it’s IMPOSSIBLE for every team to improve from their previous year?
And that, with no 1st or 2nd round pick, Manning in our division, Brees/Ryan/Flacco on our schedule, a 30th-ranked D with no $ or draft picks to really help it, and QUALITY coaches who AVOID coming here…
we were EXPECTED to get worse? You guys get that?
January 10th, 2013 at 4:46 pm
Trapp
I see you avoid the tough but basic question.
Compare our roster to the 49ers, Broncos, Packers, and Seahawks when those new coaches took over. They all had Pro Bowlers and Hall of Famers in their primes.
January 10th, 2013 at 4:46 pm
Rotoworld.com has stated Norv Turner wants to stay out West.
Wonder if the Raiders have interest and vice versa?
Also, the Colts hired a new GM who is reportedly wanting to hire 49ers’ OC Greg Roman as head coach.
If the SF OC job opens up, Norv may opt to go back to the 49ers.
January 10th, 2013 at 4:46 pm
HueJax and the late Mr Davis left us poised at 8-8. All we needed was a new DC, keep Bush and a adjustment here and there. It really was that simple. Now, the forecast looks like clouds with rain, gloom and a whole lot of pain, with some misery and woe sprinkled in. Embrace it.
January 10th, 2013 at 4:46 pm
Alex7 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 4:39 pm
James Trapp
please, please tell us how our roster compares to the 49ers roster that Harbaugh took over,
or the Denver roster with established Pro Bowlers on defense AND offense LAST YEAR
or the Packers roster with HALL OF FAMERS on offense AND defense
or the Seahawks roster draft with ACTUAL 1st ROUNDERS (Earl Thomas), and former Pro Bowlers at RB, WR, LT, and an environment where quality coaches WANTED to work.
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WHy don’t you tell me what those rosters looked like BEFORE & AFTER the current head coaches took over?
January 10th, 2013 at 4:47 pm
You guys are too easy:
Eastoaklandraider Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 4:41 pm
Hue WOULD’VE been 12-4 if not for the D.
Ummm. I can play this game!
Allen WOULD’VE been 12-4 if not for the O.
January 10th, 2013 at 4:47 pm
1043.alex7 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 4:44 pm
Simple question Blog:
Do you understand that, mathematically, it’s IMPOSSIBLE for every team to improve from their previous year?
And that, with no 1st or 2nd round pick, Manning in our division, Brees/Ryan/Flacco on our schedule, a 30th-ranked D with no $ or draft picks to really help it, and QUALITY coaches who AVOID coming here…
we were EXPECTED to get worse? You guys get that?
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4-12 should NEVER be expected.
January 10th, 2013 at 4:48 pm
I was expecting to see some improvement. I mean how hard can it be? Last couple of years an 80 year old man designed the D and castrated the O coaching staff. LOL. This year the GM chooses the coaches and lets them coach, and wham we get a zhit burger.
January 10th, 2013 at 4:48 pm
Trapp
We already did. We showed you the new coaches stepping into a team that was UNDERPERFORMING despite having HALL OF FAME and PRO BOWL players on it.
Kinda…light-years away…from…our situation.
January 10th, 2013 at 4:49 pm
Burton Guster
Embraced the pain when the Raiders got shellacked by the Bucs in the Super Bowl. Pain is nothing new since 2002.
January 10th, 2013 at 4:49 pm
Judge
by irrational people like you, sure, 4-12 is never expected.
By intelligent statistical nerds like me?
I predicted 5-11 before the season started. Easy to see.
January 10th, 2013 at 4:49 pm
Alex7 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 4:44 pm
Simple question Blog:
Do you understand that, mathematically, it’s IMPOSSIBLE for every team to improve from their previous year?
And that, with no 1st or 2nd round pick, Manning in our division, Brees/Ryan/Flacco on our schedule, a 30th-ranked D with no $ or draft picks to really help it, and QUALITY coaches who AVOID coming here…
we were EXPECTED to get worse? You guys get that?
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So is Greg Knapp the new quality Coach we will get under this Reggime?
WHy don’t you compare the roster that Hue inherited on offense and how that unit became #6 in the league?
January 10th, 2013 at 4:50 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 4:41 pm
Hue WOULD’VE been 12-4 if not for the D.
Buff
Den
Det
SD
ALL GAMES THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN WON. PLAYOFFS EASILY QUITE SIMPLE.
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If Rich Seymour did not make a game saving tackle with 11 seconds to go on Sanchez at the one yard line, sack Schaub on one of their last plays, and block not one but two FG’s including the potential game winner, Jackson would have been 5-11. Or probably worse.
January 10th, 2013 at 4:50 pm
Alex7 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 4:48 pm
Trapp
We already did. We showed you the new coaches stepping into a team that was UNDERPERFORMING despite having HALL OF FAME and PRO BOWL players on it.
Kinda…light-years away…from…our situation.
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No you didn’t MaddenRaider..punkass
January 10th, 2013 at 4:50 pm
By intelligent statistical nerds like me?
I predicted 5-11 before the season started. Easy to see.
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Well then you were wrong in two ways.
January 10th, 2013 at 4:51 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 4:41 pm
Hue WOULD’VE been 12-4 if not for the D.
Buff
Den
Det
SD
ALL GAMES THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN WON. PLAYOFFS EASILY QUITE SIMPLE.
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Easily 12-4, even 13-3. Bresnahan and knapp on equal footing. Hue deserved another year.
January 10th, 2013 at 4:52 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 1:23 pm
You can’t compare Hue and DA, Hue’s O minded and DA is D minded, Hue succeeded because he had good players to rely on his side of expertise, who did DA had? Seymour? Please
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Dude come on already. I just read almost all the posts from today. GET OFF of DA’s NUTS already are you his son?
Jesus Mac you must be new. DA did not have his guys ready to play week in and week out period.
No excuses. He was the HC. He should have seen at least by the by-week shvt was not working and fixed it PERIOD.
Stop with the excuses it doesnt help.
January 10th, 2013 at 4:52 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 4:50 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 4:41 pm
Hue WOULD’VE been 12-4 if not for the D.
Buff
Den
Det
SD
ALL GAMES THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN WON. PLAYOFFS EASILY QUITE SIMPLE.
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If Rich Seymour did not make a game saving tackle with 11 seconds to go on Sanchez at the one yard line, sack Schaub on one of their last plays, and block not one but two FG’s including the potential game winner, Jackson would have been 5-11. Or probably worse.
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And if Denise didn’t play the only 2 teams(1 of them twice) worse than his squad, and the defense doesn’t force a bunch of turnovers & if Seabass doesn’t make a game winner, we would be 0-16 last season…I can play this game too.
January 10th, 2013 at 4:52 pm
alex7 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 4:47 pm
You guys are too easy:
Eastoaklandraider Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 4:41 pm
Hue WOULD’VE been 12-4 if not for the D.
Ummm. I can play this game!
Allen WOULD’VE been 12-4 if not for the O.
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I provided games we should have won plus the games we did win. What games are you suggesting we should have won?
January 10th, 2013 at 4:53 pm
Burton Guster Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 4:46 pm
HueJax and the late Mr Davis left us poised at 8-8.
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We were $30mm over the cap. Something had to change. Either the league went to an uncapped system, or we lose players. We lost players. And we had no draft picks because of Davis and Jackson. So nothing was poised at 8-8.
January 10th, 2013 at 4:53 pm
I look forward to the next GM’s first presser.
“We are going to get back to Raider football.”
January 10th, 2013 at 4:53 pm
It doesn’t make sense to defend 4-12. It’d be one thing if this team was playing hard and still lost, then you could blame soley the talent. But there have just been so many mistakes, from FA Signings, Training camp blunders, Game day flops and poor adjustments that this is a complete team FK up. From the Front office, to the coaches to the players.
And you can’t pin 12 losses on one man, no matter how terrible Greg Knapp was.
January 10th, 2013 at 4:55 pm
The Judge is right.
January 10th, 2013 at 4:55 pm
You guys should take a page out of Nick Saban’s philsophy.
Last year matters NOT ONE IOTA. We were 0-0 to start the year. New roster, new schedule. We had, as predicted, a terrible team.
January 10th, 2013 at 4:55 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 4:50 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 4:41 pm
Hue WOULD’VE been 12-4 if not for the D.
Buff
Den
Det
SD
ALL GAMES THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN WON. PLAYOFFS EASILY QUITE SIMPLE.
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If Rich Seymour did not make a game saving tackle with 11 seconds to go on Sanchez at the one yard line, sack Schaub on one of their last plays, and block not one but two FG’s including the potential game winner, Jackson would have been 5-11. Or probably worse.
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Bush they won those games, however they did it they won them, and they would have won 4 more if not for that pathetic D.
January 10th, 2013 at 4:56 pm
So. with that being said, we are expeting a little improvement from Reggie and DA in 2013. Reggie can start by learning how to build a coherent sentence and DA by learning how to use a tampon.
January 10th, 2013 at 4:56 pm
You can all blame DA, McKenzie, Knapp,etc., etc.
I’m pinning this mess on Mark Davis.
January 10th, 2013 at 4:57 pm
Ever notice how we came out of the locker room for the 2nd half this year? Every game. Sucked major balls. That’s coaching.
January 10th, 2013 at 4:57 pm
EastOak
that’s the problem. There is no such thing as games we SHOULD have won. Why would we DESERVE our defensive stop more than Stafford and Calvin DESERVED their offensive come-back?
There are no SHOULDS in sports.
January 10th, 2013 at 4:58 pm
lol, Burton are you even trying? Researching anything?
That was the #1 critique of Hue Jackson last year – 2nd half “O” let-downs!!
Burton Guster Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 4:57 pm
Ever notice how we came out of the locker room for the 2nd half this year? Every game. Sucked major balls. That’s coaching.
January 10th, 2013 at 4:59 pm
At the end of the day, we’re stuck with Reggie and Co.. So I really hope i have to eat my words next season. I really don’t want to be right this time so PLEASE prove me wrong.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:00 pm
Guster is right.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:00 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 4:29 pm
I recognize that the 8-8 record Reggie inherited is widely considered to be the worst situation in the history of sports, but let’s please put to rest the “he was a 1st time GM and he deserves some slack” thing. That part has been proven to be invalid.
The “he inherited the worst situation in the history of mankind” thing will suffice.
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You seem like one of the more reasonable posters here… so what do you want Mark Davis to do?
Fire Reggie and start over from scratch again?
Who would want to step into a mess like this? Not only is there a complete void of talent on the defensive side, we have another knee jerk owner that expects the situation to be fixed instantly.
Please, you are better than this.
You don’t fire your way to the top.
There may be a few exceptions to this in the NFL, but few and far between.
Almost all of the perennial playoff teams have had stability at GM and HC. Its been this way for 40 years.
Football is a complicated game.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:00 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 4:53 pm
It doesn’t make sense to defend 4-12. It’d be one thing if this team was playing hard and still lost, then you could blame soley the talent. But there have just been so many mistakes, from FA Signings, Training camp blunders, Game day flops and poor adjustments that this is a complete team FK up. From the Front office, to the coaches to the players.
And you can’t pin 12 losses on one man, no matter how terrible Greg Knapp was.
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Well said.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:00 pm
alex7 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 4:57 pm
EastOak
that’s the problem. There is no such thing as games we SHOULD have won. Why would we DESERVE our defensive stop more than Stafford and Calvin DESERVED their offensive come-back?
There are no SHOULDS in sports.
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Sure there is GB should have beaten Sea and we SHOULD have won those 4 games last year.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:01 pm
Sure Hue was not a great coach, it’s argued on here that he’s not even a good coach. So then what sense does it make defending a coach that is worse than Hue?
January 10th, 2013 at 5:01 pm
Hue deserved another year.
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Post of the year!
January 10th, 2013 at 5:03 pm
Alex7 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 4:34 pm
Davis left us a TERRIBLE roster, no cap room, and Hue left us ZERO 1st or 2nd round picks…
and you’re perplexed why we didn’t improve immediately after that?
Really guys? This is what gives Oakland fans the “dumb wanna-be” stereotype. (Not to mention Manning, Brees, and Matt Ryan showed up on the schedule for an automatic 4 losses.)
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No Alex7, get that nonsense out of here. Stop blaming AL.
Al’s team which would of had Hue still the coach would have made a playoff run this year.
This 4-12 is on Mark, Reggie, and DA. They changed everything and made some TERRIBLE decisions.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:03 pm
The_Judge37
I hear you man.
I don’t have much confidence in Mark Davis. And to me, that overrides the failures of McKenzie and everyone below him.
When the man at the top is a failing, the crap flows downhill.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:04 pm
EastOak
Do you have a reason why those other teams SHOULD NOT have won the games vs us?
Are they meanies? Smell bad? Don’t deserve the comebacks, huh? Excellent logic my friend
January 10th, 2013 at 5:04 pm
If anything, Tom Cable deserved another year with Hue at OC and John Marshall free to run the Defense.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:05 pm
RaidO
since you can obviously predict the future, can you tell me why Hue Jackson, who would have made the playoffs this year…
wasn’t given a chance to make the playoffs as a head coach with ANY OF THE OTHER 31 NFL TEAMS?
Surely some owner would have wanted Hue to lead them to the playoffs, since it was a given.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:05 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 4:43 pm
There’s no excuse for 4-12. Wasn’t ok when Al did it, definetly not ok with Reggie doing it.
But Reggie, DA and Tarver have their passes validated for the next season so….
Commitment to Regression
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Haven’t you heard? Davis had 7 straight years of 10 losses or more. Therefore, Reggie and DA are not only allowed to regress the team, they are challenged to do worse. Or so says the logic in here.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:06 pm
jackasspuria Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 5:03 pm
The_Judge37
I hear you man.
I don’t have much confidence in Mark Davis. And to me, that overrides the failures of McKenzie and everyone below him.
When the man at the top is a failing, the crap flows downhill
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Yeah Mark Davis scares me. I think he was the real reason Hue’s gone. Maybe the reports of Mark ridding the team of guys who didn’t respect him were true. If so then we’ve got another meddling owner without the qualifications.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:06 pm
Judge
most of us know our head coach isn’t that good.
Most of us also know that better coaches LAUGHED at the opportunity to come here.
So…you work on building the culture here to stop that from happening down the road.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:08 pm
1087.alex7 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 5:06 pm
Judge
most of us know our head coach isn’t that good.
Most of us also know that better coaches LAUGHED at the opportunity to come here.
So…you work on building the culture here to stop that from happening down the road.
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DA is not doing that. He didn’t stop Jim Hardbaugh from laughing in his face this year. DA didn’t stop much of anything.
Bring back Cable Bumayae!
January 10th, 2013 at 5:09 pm
IMO if your D is 1 stop away from winninf 4 games I think you can say we SHOULD have won those games.
Buff- game winning drive
Den- up what 14? in the 4th and lose
Det- game winning drive from the 1
SD- Carson plays one of his best games ever and we couldnt force 1 measly punt
Yes we SHOULD have won all those games and been 12-4 and in the playoffs easily, which is why the new regime is looking so bad at the current moment.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:10 pm
Most of us also know that better coaches LAUGHED at the opportunity to come here.
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Alex with Al gone why is this job not a good one?
January 10th, 2013 at 5:11 pm
Alex7 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 5:05 pm
RaidO
since you can obviously predict the future, can you tell me why Hue Jackson, who would have made the playoffs this year…
wasn’t given a chance to make the playoffs as a head coach with ANY OF THE OTHER 31 NFL TEAMS?
Surely some owner would have wanted Hue to lead them to the playoffs, since it was a given.
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Oh stop the BS. You know it was highly likely the Raiders would of had a good year. ” Fix the D and cut down on the penalties” Remember that??
It would have been that “3rd” year improvement. Kind of like the Seahawks right now or Gruden when he went
8-8, 8-8, 12-4
Continuity
2-14 is back to square 1
January 10th, 2013 at 5:11 pm
judge
are you a kid? the nonsense Cable did is part of what made this franchise a joke.
Curious if you know that but find it funnier to argue like a 10-year old…
or if you’re really that clueless.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:13 pm
Raid O. honestly, you have to stop and try harder.
1) Hue did NOT cut down the penalties.
2) Hue did NOT fix the D all year when he was the HC.
3) You mention that teams have a magical “3rd year improvement.”
4) You don’t give our staff the same 3-years.
Dude. Terrible and incorrect logic.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:13 pm
*4-12
January 10th, 2013 at 5:15 pm
What nonsense did Cable do? Besides Sweep the Division, put the Franchise record for points scored and deliver our first .500 season since losing the Superbowl? All that despite not getting much respect from AL and Hue Standing behind him with a bowie knife.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:16 pm
RaidO
you realize Hue didn’t improve our team either, right?
It’s really hard to improve. Ask the Cowboys, Giants, Eagles, Cardinals, Browns, Dolphins, Titans, Jets, Bills, Lions, Panthers, Jaguars, Chargers, Chiefs.
Teams and coaches regress or stay flat. Happens a LOT. Especially with zero 1st or 2nd round picks.
And no free agents want to come.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:17 pm
2) Hue did NOT fix the D all year when he was the HC.
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Unlike Dennis Allen, Hue was not allowed to hand pick his coaching staff.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:17 pm
Alex7 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 5:13 pm
Raid O. honestly, you have to stop and try harder.
1) Hue did NOT cut down the penalties.
2) Hue did NOT fix the D all year when he was the HC.
3) You mention that teams have a magical “3rd year improvement.”
4) You don’t give our staff the same 3-years.
Dude. Terrible and incorrect logic.
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What the hell are you talking about?? It was Hue’s first year as HC. It would have been his 3rd year in control of the offense. Hue did not have a 2nd year HC to make the adjustments.
THE OFFENSE WAS NOT THE PROBLEM…..
This staff failed and showed they do not know what the hell they are doing when Knapp was hired.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:18 pm
Judge
feel free to buy Cable a TROPHY that says he swept the patsy non-Manning division and went 2-8 outside of it.
Yippee!!!!
While taking whores on road-trips and punching assistants, and celebrating 8-8 seasons.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:19 pm
LOL RaidO
“It was Hue’s first year as HC.”
so with Hue, that’s an excuse to not improve the team.
With Allen, ummm…
January 10th, 2013 at 5:19 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 5:15 pm
What nonsense did Cable do? Besides Sweep the Division, put the Franchise record for points scored and deliver our first .500 season since losing the Superbowl? All that despite not getting much respect from AL and Hue Standing behind him with a bowie knife.
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I think he beat women and also took said women on away game trips on the Raiders dime.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:20 pm
Alex7 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 5:19 pm
LOL RaidO
“It was Hue’s first year as HC.”
so with Hue, that’s an excuse to not improve the team.
With Allen, ummm…
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The fricking starting QB and NFL leading rusher went down..
Stop the madness Alex7
January 10th, 2013 at 5:20 pm
Judge
you might be really shocked to hear that Allen was not allowed to hand-pick his staff.
You see, guys like Chuck Pagano LAUGHED in interviews when asked about taking a job in Oakland. It’s kind of hard to find quality HCs or assistants to come here.
Wonder why.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:22 pm
1099.alex7 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 5:18 pm
Judge
feel free to buy Cable a TROPHY that says he swept the patsy non-Manning division and went 2-8 outside of it.
Yippee!!!!
While taking whores on road-trips and punching assistants, and celebrating 8-8 seasons.
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Better to celebrate the first non losing record than the way you guys dismiss a 4-12 record.
And so what he’s taking whores on road trips and puching assitants? That’s the Raider way. Most of the guys in the organization deserve an @$$kicking and we should’ve been sending him whores.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:23 pm
RaidO Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 5:17 pm
Alex7 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 5:13 pm
Raid O. honestly, you have to stop and try harder.
1) Hue did NOT cut down the penalties.
2) Hue did NOT fix the D all year when he was the HC.
3) You mention that teams have a magical “3rd year improvement.”
4) You don’t give our staff the same 3-years.
Dude. Terrible and incorrect logic.
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What the hell are you talking about?? It was Hue’s first year as HC. It would have been his 3rd year in control of the offense. Hue did not have a 2nd year HC to make the adjustments.
THE OFFENSE WAS NOT THE PROBLEM…..
This staff failed and showed they do not know what the hell they are doing when Knapp was hired.
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Alex7 are you even trying or are you a child, lol at that sissy schit you say all the time. Hue deserved a second season and anyone who TRULY know football would say the same thing, and I already know you dont know football because of yopur dumb “the oline doesnt matter” comments. Stick to web surfing and gathering up all your precious stats.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:25 pm
1103.alex7 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 5:20 pm
Judge
you might be really shocked to hear that Allen was not allowed to hand-pick his staff.
You see, guys like Chuck Pagano LAUGHED in interviews when asked about taking a job in Oakland. It’s kind of hard to find quality HCs or assistants to come here.
Wonder why.
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Yeah Chuck Pangano laughed at us and then he got Cancer. That’ll show him.
Hand picked is still hand picked. Sorry he didn’t get to hire Bill Billechek as his DC and John Haurdbaugh as his OC.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:25 pm
RaidO
you are incredibly funny.
Hue, with a starting QB and RB, beat the Manning-less Broncos, the Browns, and the terrible Jets.
He lost to the Patriots and Bills.
With Palmer and Michael Bush, he lost 4 of his last 5.
But you can make excuses if you want.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:26 pm
RaidO Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 5:20 pm
Alex7 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 5:19 pm
LOL RaidO
“It was Hue’s first year as HC.”
so with Hue, that’s an excuse to not improve the team.
With Allen, ummm…
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The fricking starting QB and NFL leading rusher went down..
Stop the madness Alex7
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Alex is clearly “trolling” thats what they call it here right? or maybe he is really that stupid.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:27 pm
Judge
it’s spelled Belichick and Harbaugh.
How can you not know that and call yourself a football fan with important things to say?
January 10th, 2013 at 5:27 pm
Hue may not have improved the team, but he didn’t regress it.
Cable was 4-8 when he took over for Kiffin, then 8-8 his full year. Again, did not regress it.
Both under far worse circumstances than Dennis Allen has had. Take Allen’s limitations this year and multiply it by Al Davis to the 2nd power.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:27 pm
EastOak
With Palmer and Michael Bush
Hue went 1-4 to end the season.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:28 pm
Yeah Chuck Pangano laughed at us and then he got Cancer. That’ll show him.
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That comment was out of line.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:28 pm
Alex7 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 5:25 pm
RaidO you are incredibly funny.
Hue, with a starting QB and RB, beat the Manning-less Broncos, the Browns, and the terrible Jets.
He lost to the Patriots and Bills.
With Palmer and Michael Bush, he lost 4 of his last 5.
But you can make excuses if you want.
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In the hunt down to the final game. DA’s season was over on Halloween.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:29 pm
alex7 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 5:27 pm
EastOak
With Palmer and Michael Bush
Hue went 1-4 to end the season.
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what would have went if it were Palmer and Dmac?
January 10th, 2013 at 5:29 pm
Hue this, Hue that.
DA this, DA that.
McKenzie this, McKenzie that.
Argue all you guys want — banter back-and-forth is both healthy and entertaining.
Point the fingers at everything you want, but, the Hubris dismissal, the McKenzie/DA hirings go to one man — Mark Davis.
He deserves all the venom spewed in here.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:29 pm
RaidO Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 5:13 pm
*4-12
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Haha. All the excuses this guy gets, thats his new name, Coach Asterisk.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:29 pm
1109.alex7 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 5:27 pm
Judge
it’s spelled Belichick and Harbaugh.
How can you not know that and call yourself a football fan with important things to say?
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I gave you enough credit to know who i was talking about. Very happy you didn’t let me down.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:29 pm
There have been about 8 teams that fired most of their coaching staffs this season.
Remind me how many interviews Hue has been asked to do.
For head coach or OC. Can’t even get a ROONEY RULE INTERVIEW!
Weird huh?
January 10th, 2013 at 5:30 pm
You are better than this.
LOL.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:30 pm
Alex7 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 5:25 pm
RaidO you are incredibly funny.
Hue, with a starting QB and RB, beat the Manning-less Broncos, the Browns, and the terrible Jets.
He lost to the Patriots and Bills.
With Palmer and Michael Bush, he lost 4 of his last 5.
But you can make excuses if you want.
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What was everybody on this blog saying about Palmer in 2011?? Oh yeah the “off the couch” excuse.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:30 pm
psst…
we are arguing between Cable, Hue, & DA
hell we might as well argue between
Brooks, Jamarcus, McClain, Porter, Gallery…sheesh
January 10th, 2013 at 5:31 pm
John David Booty Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 5:29 pm
RaidO Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 5:13 pm
*4-12
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Haha. All the excuses this guy gets, thats his new name, Coach Asterisk.
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LOL
January 10th, 2013 at 5:31 pm
With Palmer and Michael Bush
Hue went 1-4 to end the season.
With the playoffs on the line.
And can’t even get a Rooney Rule interview TWO YEARS in a row. Not even for OC.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:32 pm
exactly RR
not sure why these kids, who don’t know how to spell,
can’t realize a TERRIBLE roster when they see it.
I picked 5-11. Vegas picked us to be worse also. Not that hard.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:32 pm
1112. Fk em’ i don’t care. IT’s 5:30 i’m gone
January 10th, 2013 at 5:33 pm
Hue this, Hue that.
DA this, DA that.
McKenzie this, McKenzie that.
Argue all you guys want — banter back-and-forth is both healthy and entertaining.
Point the fingers at everything you want, but, the Hubris dismissal, the McKenzie/DA hirings go to one man — Mark Davis.
He deserves all the venom spewed in here.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:33 pm
RaidO
there was no “off the couch” excuse in December, when Hue went 1-4.
Palmer had won 3 games in a row before that looking just fine.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:33 pm
Some people want to argue that 4 wins are better than 8 wins. That takes a lot of “what ifs” to do it.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:34 pm
Remember these SAME GUYS wanting Hue fired
because the Raiders came out looking UNPREPARED and TERRIBLE vs the Packers and Dolphins.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:34 pm
im out too yall can have it.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:35 pm
In the hunt down to the final game. DA’s season was over on Halloween.
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DA’s season was over week 1 when he showed up unprepared.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:36 pm
Hue:
BLOWN OUT by the Patriots, Packers, Chiefs, Dolphins.
Beat the Bears without Cutler, the Vikings without A.P., and the Browns with no QB!
Awesome!!!
January 10th, 2013 at 5:37 pm
Alex7 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 5:36 pm
Hue:
BLOWN OUT by the Patriots, Packers, Chiefs, Dolphins.
Beat the Bears without Cutler, the Vikings without A.P., and the Browns with no QB!
Awesome!!!
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*4-12
January 10th, 2013 at 5:40 pm
Were we legit with Cable and Hue? Hmmmmm
BLOWN OUT vs 49ers, Steelers, Packers, Saints, Giants, Redskins, Cowboys, and Dolphins.
But we beat the Chiefs and Broncos without Manning often!
January 10th, 2013 at 5:41 pm
Al is gone and good riddance. Let this new regime play out. Al had thirty years to turn it around and the aholes on here give McKenzie three weeks. What a bunch of retards.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:41 pm
RaidO
careful now!!!!
PRAISING 8-8 as something awesome is what got Cable fired.
You either a playoff team or you’re not.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:43 pm
I’ll break it to you guys now.
We’re 7-9 next year.
I predicted 5-11 this year.
So EXPECT us to not be that good next year yet.
Two years from now? Playoff team as Manning declines.
Good night.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:44 pm
Here’s what I have to say about hue. Who gives a fu€k? What’s the point of talking endlessly about whether we should have let hue go? How about this. We shouldn’t have let him go. U guys win. Happy? Now can we move the fu€k in? For crying out loud.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:46 pm
Dr_robert Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 5:44 pm
Here’s what I have to say about hue. Who gives a fu€k? What’s the point of talking endlessly about whether we should have let hue go? How about this. We shouldn’t have let him go. U guys win. Happy? Now can we move the fu€k in? For crying out loud.
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You obsess over Mistic 24/7
January 10th, 2013 at 5:46 pm
Now al had thirty years? Forgot about some good years there didn’t u? Just plain dumb.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:47 pm
DA beat
2-14 Chiefs 2x
2-14 Jags
8-8 Steelers missing Palamalu and Harrison in the last second
January 10th, 2013 at 5:47 pm
Dr_robert
Here, here!
Hubris should have had another year, but is now gone.
Spilt milk folks, no use crying over it, just like the Doc says.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:47 pm
Kell–my post had nothing to do with that cretin. But I see ur still obsessing over me c
January 10th, 2013 at 5:50 pm
It couldn’t be easier to understand. Hue went 8-8. No great loss. But if al hasn’t died, he probably would have gotten another year. But a new gm ain’t holding on to an 8-8 coach who finished 1-4. Oh well. DA gets another year cuz it’s different circumstances. Just the way it is. Don’t cry. Deal with it.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:52 pm
DrRobert, what is the great Raider team that Al built?
January 10th, 2013 at 5:52 pm
And chances are good we will be lucky to see the raiders finish 8-8 next year. That’s just odds. But it’s possible with the right moves that it can get a lot better quickly. We will see what Reggie does. I’ll be here to let u know if they’re good moves or not.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:54 pm
Twocents–the Super Bowl team with gruden should’ve been there twice. Duh. Art sgell’s nineties teams were very good at times. If u deny any of that, then ur just lying.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:56 pm
yeah but al wouldnt gave hired an ex donkey…
January 10th, 2013 at 5:58 pm
The Super Bowl team that you refer to had their asses kicked. Try again ahole.
January 10th, 2013 at 5:58 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 5:56 pm
yeah but al wouldnt gave hired an ex donkey…
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If he did, his azz would have been fired after showing that.
January 10th, 2013 at 6:02 pm
McClown went from the #1 LB in college football winning every important personal award and the national title to a running joke in 3 years. No question McClown is a punk but many NFL players are. But this sort of meltdown is just another symptom of failure of coaching and leadership. If this dude was on a team with strong team leaders and strong coaching all of this insubordination and off the field crap would have never been tolerated nor even happened. Put him on the Niners or Patriots and the kid’s a baller who keeps his mouth shut.
Maybe we can still get a 6/7th rounder for him as he is young and can still ball in the right system. Otherwise we get nothing for him and he’s still on the payroll for 2013.
We’ve *got* to fix the coaching and leadership problem on this team or its never going to change, regardless of the players..
January 10th, 2013 at 6:06 pm
The AD lovers always overlook his asinine draft picks.
We suck because of AD, that is a fact.
January 10th, 2013 at 6:07 pm
Twocents
And now we suck because of MD.
January 10th, 2013 at 6:08 pm
we suck more of reggie…
January 10th, 2013 at 6:09 pm
Al_is_theraiders
Who hired Reggie?
Yes, that would be Mark Davis.
January 10th, 2013 at 6:10 pm
Alex7 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 5:41 pm
RaidO
careful now!!!!
PRAISING 8-8 as something awesome is what got Cable fired.
You either a playoff team or you’re not.
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I did not praise nothing. I just said:
*4-12
January 10th, 2013 at 6:10 pm
I don´t know if Hue lost the team in Dec. 2011.
I don´t know if a 4W season > than an 8W season.
I don´t know if is Mark Davis or Al Davis fault.
I don´t know if DA should stay.
but I ABSOLUTELY know I felt a LOT BETTER in January of the 2011 AND 2012 years than in January of the 2010 and 2013 years.
January 10th, 2013 at 6:11 pm
MD is an unknown. I dont think he is anything like his father.
January 10th, 2013 at 6:12 pm
Twocents
Some in here (media as well) have reported — not substantiated, mind you — MD was the one who axed Hubris.
Some in here would consider that “meddlesome” like his pop.
January 10th, 2013 at 6:14 pm
Twocents
I too am reserving judgement on Mark Davis.
I bring is name up mainly to give the finger pointers another avenue.
After all, the top of the chain of command should get equal blame to his foot soldiers.
If DA and McKenzie are too blame, Mark Davis should get equal venom.
January 10th, 2013 at 6:15 pm
Jackasspuria Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 6:12 pm
Twocents
Some in here (media as well) have reported — not substantiated, mind you — MD was the one who axed Hubris.
Some in here would consider that “meddlesome” like his pop.
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Wasn’t that Silver who planted that seed? Isn’t he a PR jackarse for Hubris?
January 10th, 2013 at 6:16 pm
Morilla
Oh yeah. It was the Silver Surfer.
Dude is a boot licker, too the max.
January 10th, 2013 at 6:17 pm
alex7 Says:
Judge
it’s spelled Belichick and Harbaugh.
How can you not know that and call yourself a football fan with important things to say?
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Grammar police and spell checkers on a blog lose all credibility instantly.
January 10th, 2013 at 6:18 pm
I don’t think MD axed Hue. I think he was following guide lines that Al layed out. He was looking for a GM and his advisors told him to hire McKenzie.
I think that was a solid choice.
January 10th, 2013 at 6:19 pm
Twocents
I don’t blame McKenzie for getting his own guy, as well.
If I were in that spot as a new GM, I would bring my own guy in as well.
January 10th, 2013 at 6:20 pm
We will all know a lot about McKenzie come April.
His decision at the No. 3 overall spot should give us plenty of insight on which direction he’s going.
Whether he takes someone at No. 3 or trades down for more picks, it’s going to be an interesting time.
January 10th, 2013 at 6:23 pm
if he was following guidelines DA would be out….
January 10th, 2013 at 6:23 pm
I would love to have been a fly on the wall in the meeting where they decided to hire Knapp. Then we would know who is the real incompetent among them.
January 10th, 2013 at 6:24 pm
Twocents
I believe someone in the room — after a long day of searching, interviewing and deciding on a OC — said “Let’s take a nap!”.
And poof, Greg Knapp was hired.
January 10th, 2013 at 6:31 pm
I still believe that DA can be a good HC. But he needs to hire a great OC, that will define his tenure.
January 10th, 2013 at 6:31 pm
or they said…”enough of this…krapp already!..”
January 10th, 2013 at 6:32 pm
Jackasspuria Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 6:19 pm
Twocents
I don’t blame McKenzie for getting his own guy, as well.
If I were in that spot as a new GM, I would bring my own guy in as well.
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Yup. It’s usually how it goes and the logical way to work. But logic and this board have a tough time getting along.
January 10th, 2013 at 6:33 pm
morilla Says:
Wasn’t that Silver who planted that seed? Isn’t he a PR jackarse for Hubris?
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100 percent correct on both counts.
January 10th, 2013 at 6:33 pm
Our offense was better under Hue Jackson. Our team was not, and lost 5 out of six games down the stretch while in playoff contention. If Hue had the power to trade our top draft picks for Carson Palmer , then he had the power to do something about the defense, incuding canning Bresnehan. He did nothing, because in my opinion he didn’t KNOW what to do. Add to that his tirade at the end (blaming everyone but himself), his inability to fix the penalty problem and his insistence on having input into who his new boss was going to be, and it’s pretty easy to see why he’s not here anymore.
Poised? Yeah, to go off the rails. More likely McKenzie looked at the cap situation and the lack of future picks (and the dismal production of the recent top picks) and saw an untenable situation. Decided to blow it up and start over and build for the long term. Knew it would be painful (and unpopular with some people) to begin with, but that if people were patient that they’d be proud of the Raiders again.
We should consider ourselves lucky that someone of his pedigree wanted to come to Oakland to begin with. Witness the coaches that wouldn’t. There was a report just the other day that a particular GM candidate actually turned down an opportunity to work for a certain team because of the cap mess that team was looking at.
It ain’t gonna happen overnight.
January 10th, 2013 at 6:35 pm
“ROUNDS ONE AND TWO THE LAST 10 YEARS.
2002 Phillip Buchanon, Nap Harris, Langston Walker, Doug Jolley
2003 Nnamdi, Tyler Brayton, Teyo Johnson
2004 Robert Gallery, Jake Grove
2005 Fabian Washington, Stanford Routt
2006 Michael Huff, Thomas Howard
2007 JAMRCUS RUSSELL, Zack Miller
2008 DMAC
2009 DHB, Mike Mitchell
2010 Rolando McClain, Lamarr Houston
2011 Stefan Wiz ”
______________________________________________
Wow. Had forgotten about Jake Grove. He was supposed to be a solid pick, right? I kind of forget, but he was a huge bust. Was it injury or just a dud?
January 10th, 2013 at 6:40 pm
Lets also not forget that Hue had a reputation around the league with his colloegues. It’s been documented, and I’m sure Reggie was aware of the stories. I’m sure if Reggie wanted to he could have kept him. I just think Reggie wanted nothing to do with him and cut him loose. Funny thing is, you still don’t see HJ getting any interviews. People are steering clear of him for a reason.
January 10th, 2013 at 6:44 pm
shutdown Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 6:35 pm
“ROUNDS ONE AND TWO THE LAST 10 YEARS.
2002 Phillip Buchanon, Nap Harris, Langston Walker, Doug Jolley
2003 Nnamdi, Tyler Brayton, Teyo Johnson
2004 Robert Gallery, Jake Grove
2005 Fabian Washington, Stanford Routt
2006 Michael Huff, Thomas Howard
2007 JAMRCUS RUSSELL, Zack Miller
2008 DMAC
2009 DHB, Mike Mitchell
2010 Rolando McClain, Lamarr Houston
2011 Stefan Wiz ”
______________________________________________
Wow. Had forgotten about Jake Grove. He was supposed to be a solid pick, right? I kind of forget, but he was a huge bust. Was it injury or just a dud?
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It is amazing how we can’t seem to develop anyone. That is one thing I have to give the current staff: Burris, Criner, Streator, seem to have bright futures. And Bergstrom and Nix played fairly well in the last game as well.
January 10th, 2013 at 6:48 pm
who “miss every other tackle burriss?” or “slow as molasses criner?” or ” i played 1 game bergstrom?”
January 10th, 2013 at 6:48 pm
We are where we are because of one man, Al Davis.
Are McKenzie and Allen the answer, I don’t know.
I am willing to give them more than one year though.
January 10th, 2013 at 6:51 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 6:48 pm
who “miss every other tackle burriss?” or “slow as molasses criner?” or ” i played 1 game bergstrom?”
————
Rookies?
January 10th, 2013 at 6:51 pm
oh yeah…al dictated the zbs andxone defense this last year…i forgot.
January 10th, 2013 at 6:58 pm
The 2013 team is going to look nothing like the 2012 team. That is apparent.
January 10th, 2013 at 7:10 pm
People act like:
A) Al wouldn’t have considered firing Hue anyways. 8-8 to 8-8 certainly wouldn’t have been acceptable to the old man, especially throwing all of Al’s beloved players under the bus at the end of the year.
B) Had Reggie kept Hue, that Hue wouldn’t have started flirting and maybe even leaving like Petrino did ATL, in the middle of the season.
As if Hue would have just dedicated his whole life to us or something. He went to work for the team he said he fleeced for the “greatest trade in NFL history”!!!!
January 10th, 2013 at 7:11 pm
How about Mularkey as the Raiders next OC?
In his first season at Atlanta, Mularkey’s offense rushed for 152.5 rushing yards per game, second most in the league. The Falcons also finished 10th in the NFL in scoring (up from 29th the previous year) with 24.4 points per game, and 6th in yards with 361.2 per game.
January 10th, 2013 at 7:13 pm
shutdown Says:
Wow. Had forgotten about Jake Grove. He was supposed to be a solid pick, right? I kind of forget, but he was a huge bust. Was it injury or just a dud?
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He was pretty good but hurt a lot. Traded Miami for Satelle. Supposedly a win/win but I think we won ’cause grove continued getting hurt. I hate to use ‘bust’ for injury plagued good guys and lump’em in the Jamarcuses and Leafs, but there it is.
January 10th, 2013 at 7:16 pm
I am not even sure a 2nd round pick can even be a “bust”, especially one who started as many games as Grove did in his career.
Disappointing? Sure, but not a bust.
A 2nd round pick bust is more like a Tui.
January 10th, 2013 at 7:16 pm
Twocents Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 6:48 pm
We are where we are because of one man, Al Davis.
Are McKenzie and Allen the answer, I don’t know.
I am willing to give them more than one year though.
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You are willing?
You don’tcoun t.
You don’t matter.
so funny watching the board idiots stating what they want, or are willing to put up with.
I’m Oakglen. I’m a dork.
Remember wat I said above, you don’t matter.
January 10th, 2013 at 7:17 pm
JFB
Yeah, that’s right!
Marques was supposed to be Gruden’s Gannon 2.0. Man…
January 10th, 2013 at 7:19 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
People act like:
A) Al wouldn’t have considered firing Hue anyways.
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Everyone forgets, despite my diligence, that Al knew who Hue was. Remember the gag order on Hue his first six months here? Bush and I both think, Jason Campbell notwithstanding, that Al had his eye on an already disgruntled Carson Palmer when he hired Hue. And Hue IS a good OC.
January 10th, 2013 at 7:20 pm
Tui was awesome in the preseason.
Won some decent coin with his last minute wins in the preseason.
Betting on preseason football…..ahhhhh the good ‘ol days.
January 10th, 2013 at 7:20 pm
r8eray Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 7:11 pm
How about Mularkey as the Raiders next OC?
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Mularkey would be an excellent choice. Mularkey is probably looking at top jobs tho. He has Head Coaching experience, but has been more successful as an OC. He has basically stayed on the East Coast his entire career. I Don’t see him coming west altho I guess anything is possible.
January 10th, 2013 at 7:27 pm
Rob Chudzinksi next Browns HC
January 10th, 2013 at 7:29 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 5:46 pm
Dr_robert Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 5:44 pm
Here’s what I have to say about hue. Who gives a fu€k? What’s the point of talking endlessly about whether we should have let hue go? How about this. We shouldn’t have let him go. U guys win. Happy? Now can we move the fu€k in? For crying out loud.
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You obsess over Mistic 24/7
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he didnt say anything about mistic in that post, you senile old bag of cat sheet. when did you get so loopy, you crusty geez?
January 10th, 2013 at 7:31 pm
1128.KoolKell Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 5:33 pm
Some people want to argue that 4 wins are better than 8 wins. That takes a lot of “what ifs” to do it.
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I’ll argue with you about that. Not today though. Let’s wait until the last weekend in April. I’ll take the 4 wins and you or anyone else can have the 8 wins.
January 10th, 2013 at 7:36 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 7:19 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
People act like:
A) Al wouldn’t have considered firing Hue anyways.
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Everyone forgets, despite my diligence, that Al knew who Hue was. Remember the gag order on Hue his first six months here? Bush and I both think, Jason Campbell notwithstanding, that Al had his eye on an already disgruntled Carson Palmer when he hired Hue. And Hue IS a good OC
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see above about posters thinkingthey matter.
saying bush and I both think Al had his eye on palmer when he hired hue, means what exactly? That you both are idiots and think alike or that because two of you state something it has a better chance of being correct?
Almost as goofballish as you saying “hue IS a good oc” with uppercase IS as if that makes it oficial
January 10th, 2013 at 7:37 pm
Why is it neccessary to iviscerate our former owner and former coach in order to talk up the new regime?
I know, it was an unprecendented, never before seen in the history of sports, uneuivocal dumpster fire of the highest degree situation. I’m surprised the president didn’t declare Alameda HQ’s as a federal disaster area.
Funny too, that some of the same people who say this is such a talentless mess are the same ones who blame ONE PLAYER (Palmer) for us losing this year and claim that ONE PLAYER (A true elite qb) would’ve gotten us to the playoffs.
This place has more twists and turns than a Coney Island roller coaster sometimes.
January 10th, 2013 at 7:38 pm
1151.CDERaider Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 6:02 pm
McClown went from the #1 LB in college football winning every important personal award and the national title to a running joke in 3 years. No question McClown is a punk but many NFL players are. But this sort of meltdown is just another symptom of failure of coaching and leadership. If this dude was on a team with strong team leaders and strong coaching all of this insubordination and off the field crap would have never been tolerated nor even happened. Put him on the Niners or Patriots and the kid’s a baller who keeps his mouth shut.
Maybe we can still get a 6/7th rounder for him as he is young and can still ball in the right system. Otherwise we get nothing for him and he’s still on the payroll for 2013.
We’ve *got* to fix the coaching and leadership problem on this team or its never going to change, regardless of the players..
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So no responsibility falls on the player eh?
This is the view of so many parents who’s young boys are getting arrested and they say well look outside my door. We live on MLK Blvd. It’s real around here. Let me live in a neighborhood where the street name is Hanging Moss Lane and none of this woulda happened.
January 10th, 2013 at 7:44 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 7:37 pm
Why is it neccessary to iviscerate our former owner and former coach in order to talk up the new regime?
I know, it was an unprecendented, never before seen in the history of sports, uneuivocal dumpster fire of the highest degree situation. I’m surprised the president didn’t declare Alameda HQ’s as a federal disaster area.
Funny too, that some of the same people who say this is such a talentless mess are the same ones who blame ONE PLAYER (Palmer) for us losing this year and claim that ONE PLAYER (A true elite qb) would’ve gotten us to the playoffs.
This place has more twists and turns than a Coney Island roller coaster sometimes.
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How else do you argue 4-12 is better than 8-8 ?
January 10th, 2013 at 7:49 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 7:37 pm
Why is it neccessary to iviscerate our former owner and former coach in order to talk up the new regime?
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Because some folks seem to think that things were just fine before, and that the mess Reggie McKenzie is dealing with now has nothing to do with them?
The cap issues are not a fantasy. They do actually exist. Al’s draft picks haven’t produced. Also not a fantasy. The fact that some in here conveniently choose to ignore those things and go on and on about how inept the new regime is why these things keep getting pointed out.
January 10th, 2013 at 7:49 pm
Rotoworld is reporting new Browns head coach Rob Chudzinksi is expected to hire Norv Turner — guy who he worked with before — as Browns’ OC.
January 10th, 2013 at 7:49 pm
From Rotoworld:
Browns hired Rob Chudzinski as head coach.
Chudzinski, 44, spent the last two seasons as Carolina’s offensive coordinator. He has ties to Cleveland already as he was the Browns’ offensive coordinator from 2007-2008 when he somehow managed to turn Derek Anderson into a Pro Bowl quarterback. Chud will bring along with him a vertical, aggressive passing attack that likes to feature the tight end. Sources are already saying that Norv Turner, whom Chudzinski worked under as tight ends coach in San Diego, is likely to accompany him as the team’s offensive coordinator. Chudzinski had three head coaching interviews last offseason before ultimately returning to the Panthers. He is an Ohio native.
January 10th, 2013 at 7:49 pm
Twocents Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 5:41 pm
Al is gone and good riddance. Let this new regime play out. Al had thirty years to turn it around and the aholes on here give McKenzie three weeks. What a bunch of retards.
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Al was just a pick away from a dynasty.
a really cool dynasty.
January 10th, 2013 at 7:55 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 4:50 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 4:41 pm
Hue WOULD’VE been 12-4 if not for the D.
Buff
Den
Det
SD
ALL GAMES THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN WON. PLAYOFFS EASILY QUITE SIMPLE.
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If Rich Seymour did not make a game saving tackle with 11 seconds to go on Sanchez at the one yard line, sack Schaub on one of their last plays, and block not one but two FG’s including the potential game winner, Jackson would have been 5-11. Or probably worse.
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If we don’t score 17 points in 3 mins. we lose the opener to Pitt.
If Bob Thomas’s fg doesn’t doink off the goal post in Chicago and we don’t get a late fg against KC and a late td against gb at home and win a few other close games we don’t even make the playoffs.
What year? 1976 and the 13-1 SB Champion Raiders.
Teams win close games all the time in various forms and fashions. Fg’s are not gimmees, or else they would just put 3 pt’s on the board and not even bother to kick it.
The fact our overpaid DT actually made a play should not count against us and we can’t just discount games cuz it “could’ve gone either way”.
January 10th, 2013 at 7:55 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 7:44 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 7:37 pm
Why is it neccessary to iviscerate our former owner and former coach in order to talk up the new regime?
I know, it was an unprecendented, never before seen in the history of sports, uneuivocal dumpster fire of the highest degree situation. I’m surprised the president didn’t declare Alameda HQ’s as a federal disaster area.
Funny too, that some of the same people who say this is such a talentless mess are the same ones who blame ONE PLAYER (Palmer) for us losing this year and claim that ONE PLAYER (A true elite qb) would’ve gotten us to the playoffs.
This place has more twists and turns than a Coney Island roller coaster sometimes.
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How else do you argue 4-12 is better than 8-8 ?
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You overloded fartmonger unemployed bo-dunk, you cheered like a little girl when we hired regmeister. ajust like a little girl who got her first purse. You flipfloppin flapjack eating tubo, head coach is Allen. first coach is hue. allen still hed coach, hue still fired.
January 10th, 2013 at 7:58 pm
Thank god we had Knapp last year and this guy Mularkey! Listen to this crap:
“It started with us meeting and evaluating our personnel, and in reality, this system started with Kordell and worked its way down from there,” Mularkey said. “We saw what we had offensively, player-wise, and said, ‘Let’s fit what we have here. Tinker some things — don’t even install things — that we know our left tackle can’t do.
Even though it looks good or another team is successful with it, let’s not put any player in a position where he is uncertain if he can do it.’
“You want your quarterback to have success, but if one guy isn’t put in the position to be successful, you can’t run that play.”
January 10th, 2013 at 8:06 pm
All that sounds great for Mularkey, but his sage wisdom and all, finished 30th in the NFL in scoring.
January 10th, 2013 at 8:11 pm
Oakglen, I can’t top you, ‘You overloded fartmonger unemployed bo-dunk,…’
January 10th, 2013 at 8:12 pm
I understand both arguments on keeping DA or firing him. However, the argument to keep his is solely based on blind faith compared to actual logic. Lets look at the negatives vs the positives of this year for DA
Negatives:
- He hired Greg Knapp
- He hired Hoffman
- He didn’t understand we needed a backup snapper..worse he lied about it
- He actually was giggling like a school girl with Fox after we got embarrassed. This was a little overblown, but to me shows the lack of passion
- Gave up the most points ever in a 4 game span in team history and basically turned our team into a laughing stock
- lost to Cleveland at home, to Weeden
- turned a 8-8 team to a 4-12 team
- gave up the most points in raider franchise since 1961 while being a defensive minded coach
- didn’t fire knapp during the bye
- let knapp come out in public and basically laugh at the Offenses performance and told everyone to be patient
- We were at the bottom of every category possible
Positives:
- We had a good 4 game stretch on Defense at the end of the year
Lets all just truly think about this. Who would put their own money on us getting to 8-8 next year under DA? Even the DA supporters wouldn’t. I’ve accepted he’s our coach, but I’m 100% convinced we will be having the same conversation at this time next year.
He’s really reminds me of Mike Shula. Young “prospect” who had NFL ties, that was given multiple years and never won.
January 10th, 2013 at 8:14 pm
It’s hard to deny Reggie inherited a less than ideal situation, but there comes a time to say “This is us now…no more blaming past mistakes”.
I’m thinking glass half full, but I can see scenarios in which we can realistically surprise alot of people. I did the same thing last yr. but it is what it is.
If Knapp was as detrimental as some are suggesting than it’s a huge plus he’s gone.
The way the D played those last 4 games (# 3 overall in the league) is a great thing to happen going into next season. It’s alot better than sputtering and getting worse toward the end.
So many Raider teams looked like they were gonna tear it up going into a season and then failed miserably, so maybe…just maybe the reverse can happen going into the next one.
I’m excited to see what happens here in the offseason and who knows..maybe Reggie is gonna unleash some genius and shock everyone.
January 10th, 2013 at 8:16 pm
Mularkey has done well as OC consistently. Didn’t have much in Gabbert and Henne last year.
January 10th, 2013 at 8:16 pm
1206.Just Fire Baby Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 8:06 pm
All that sounds great for Mularkey, but his sage wisdom and all, finished 30th in the NFL in scoring.
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Yeesh. Stats again.
He didn’t seem to have any trouble putting up points in Pittsburgh or Atlanta. I’m going to go out on a limb here and say that he didn’t have a whole lot to work with in Jacksonville. They did fire their GM, you know.
January 10th, 2013 at 8:18 pm
504 Raider Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 7:38 pm
1151.CDERaider Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 6:02 pm
McClown went from the #1 LB in college football winning every important personal award and the national title to a running joke in 3 years. No question McClown is a punk but many NFL players are. But this sort of meltdown is just another symptom of failure of coaching and leadership. If this dude was on a team with strong team leaders and strong coaching all of this insubordination and off the field crap would have never been tolerated nor even happened. Put him on the Niners or Patriots and the kid’s a baller who keeps his mouth shut.
Maybe we can still get a 6/7th rounder for him as he is young and can still ball in the right system. Otherwise we get nothing for him and he’s still on the payroll for 2013.
We’ve *got* to fix the coaching and leadership problem on this team or its never going to change, regardless of the players..
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So no responsibility falls on the player eh?
This is the view of so many parents who’s young boys are getting arrested and they say well look outside my door. We live on MLK Blvd. It’s real around here. Let me live in a neighborhood where the street name is Hanging Moss Lane and none of this woulda happened.
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Wow..it’s coaching’s fault this guy is a complete clown. I should start acting like an idiot and say it’s my bosses fault.
January 10th, 2013 at 8:20 pm
im already jealous of clevelands offense….
January 10th, 2013 at 8:20 pm
Yeesh. Stats again.
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Yup, darn those things.
January 10th, 2013 at 8:23 pm
Just saying, tough to sell my on some positive quotes for the 30th ranked offense in the NFL.
Hell they were 28th the year before he got there, lol.
Sounds like a bunch of …….wait for it…..Mularkey!!
January 10th, 2013 at 8:27 pm
1214.Just Fire Baby Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 8:20 pm
Yeesh. Stats again.
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Yup, darn those things.
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Stats are fine. They just aren’t the whole story. Mularkey is a prime example. He has had a lot of success in the NFL as an offensive coordinator when he had talent to work with. He didn’t have a lot of that in Jacksonville. They fired their GM because he didn’t do his job, which was to bring talented players to the organization.
If you can’t see the connection there, I don’t know what to tell you.
January 10th, 2013 at 8:35 pm
Rude gruden…you forgot to mention one of Allen’s positives:the players are still behind him. That isn’t some garbage lip service either. Even cut players say he is on the right track respect him and believe in what he is trying to do.
A cynical come back is: what else are they going to say?
But it doesn’t apply here.
January 10th, 2013 at 8:44 pm
Wonder how cowboy fans were feeling when they went 1-15 got a new owner fired their legendary coach and traded their best player?
They were building a system not a team. Same with the steelers, the pats, gb, now sf…that’s where we are at. The building of this thing takes time but I really believe two years from now we can be just as solid as those franchises…we just have to take our medicine now
Our bitter salary cap, poor draft history, no draft pick havin, thin roster, no locker room leaders medicine.
January 10th, 2013 at 8:44 pm
Read everything.
results are clear. very clear. even to me.
we are the worst. absolute worst. only the raiders can go from almost the worst to the worst in one year. why oh why are we cursed?
January 10th, 2013 at 8:46 pm
And players hated young coach mike Shula BEFORE he got hired as a hc.
January 10th, 2013 at 8:47 pm
ya this is fun.all you negative nancys crying bout everything. why fight it? we are the worst, and now that I accept that i feel better.
all together now. WE SUCK, WE KNOW IT, AND ARE PROUD OF IT
felt good.
try it. you’ll see. it’s an eye opener knowing and accepting
January 10th, 2013 at 8:49 pm
Positives:
- We had a good 4 game stretch on Defense at the end of the year
Lets all just truly think about this. Who would put their own money on us getting to 8-8 next year under DA? Even the DA supporters wouldn’t. I’ve accepted he’s our coach, but I’m 100% convinced we will be having the same conversation at this time next year.
He’s really reminds me of Mike Shula. Young “prospect” who had NFL ties, that was given multiple years and never won.
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No.. the positives are he did reduce the penalties as promised, he did jettison people like McClain, he did have the team playing hard every game, and most importantly, he still has the entire team having his back according to ALL reports.
Jeesh guys.
Give it a rest.
Allen is our coach for the next three years (hopefully.)
Are you so used to Al firing coaches that you think this is NORMAL or something?
January 10th, 2013 at 8:53 pm
Raider guy Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 8:44 pm
Wonder how cowboy fans were feeling when they went 1-15 got a new owner fired their legendary coach and traded their best player?
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Wouldn’t want to be a Cowboy fan right now. Egomaniacal owner who’s convinced he’s the reason they had that success, even though he ran the guy off that really built the team. Convinced beyond a doubt that he knows what he’s doing now, even though it’s pretty clear to most that we’re looking at a redux of Al Davis’ final years with the Raiders and that things are not going to get better in Big D until Jerrah releases the reins.
And he’s not going to. Sucks for them.
January 10th, 2013 at 9:04 pm
If Dallas is going to continue to be average as long as Jerry is in charge…then I hope Jerry lives a long, long life and NEVER gives up control.
January 10th, 2013 at 9:10 pm
The only way I’d find a DA being fired now scenario as acceptable would be if:
1) Lovie Smith is lined up, poised and ready to sign on as Raiders HC or
2) Ditto Gruden, specifically Chuckie.
Since neither of the case is possible, I can only hope that they can get a veteran higher caliber OC: Mularkey, as high out of reach possible, Saunders at minimal.
And let’s say Mularkey is hired as OC, would Andy Heck make an acceptable O Line coach?
With the likelihood the Jags will clean house, would Bratkowski be acceptable?
January 10th, 2013 at 9:10 pm
I personally don’t think SLO is that smart to do this but what if he got arrested on purpose for Raiders to have no choice but to release him instead of trading his sorry ars to a team he hates? That way he gets to go to a team Nick Saban picks for him.
That’s right I’m a conspiracy theorist. But IMO SLO is too stupid to have done this on purpose.
I don’t blame Raiders for thinking hard to draft this pos after his credentials and the lies Saban was telling the world about him. He had had many incidents that were covered up when he was in Alabama. Saban runs a tight ship! What Raiders DID NOT do was interview him in details. They learned nothing from JR debacle. I think teams need to hire an investigator on any 1st round pick to protect themselves. Or else you get to draft JR and SLO and set back organization for years with each bad move.
Why do you think phoney 9ers drafted Patrick Willis? Nolan and Singeltary coached him on east west senior game and spent a week watching and interacting with him closely. Nolan did them a huge favor by drafting that guy. True, he also drafted Smith over Rodgers which got him fired.
January 10th, 2013 at 9:11 pm
Seymour Bush wasnt getting enough attention so he dusted off his OakGlen alias.
#mental patient
January 10th, 2013 at 9:12 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
then I hope Jerry lives a long, long life and NEVER gives up control.
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Funny, I’m sure lots of folks said the same thing about Al before he passed.
January 10th, 2013 at 9:14 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 6:58 pm
The 2013 team is going to look nothing like the 2012 team. That is apparent.
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2-14 will look alot like 4-12, just slightly worse. In the meantime, SD and KC are boning up on new coaches, Denver will stay with Manning, and we’re waiting for the Green Bay season to end so Reggie can go after some of their coaches, most likely to no avail. We are letting the window close too quickly. The proper move would’ve been to hire Jon Gruden. He could have brought a bona fide staff to Oakland.
So if you say we won’t look anything like we did now in the 2013 season, I’d say I disagree because there is not a lot of difference between 2-14 & 4-12. Anything below the 4-12 mark sucks ass, regardless of the record. It’ll be the same old nasty smelling dog chit, just the wrapping will be a little different.
January 10th, 2013 at 9:15 pm
Evening, all.
January 10th, 2013 at 9:18 pm
hold on everyone. my insider just told me knapp is alreday back. reggie and da are gonna announce it tomorrow. wow dudes, knapp is back. thats good stuff. means we’ll get the #1 pick in ‘14. hoooooorraaaayyyy!!!
January 10th, 2013 at 9:18 pm
knapp is back
knapp is back
now all the knapp lovers
can go and lick his sack
January 10th, 2013 at 9:20 pm
da and knapps bromance was deep and strong. couldnt stay apart to long. but reggie is gonna get in on some of the tryst. knapp is back to take care of unfinished biz. we goin to the super bowl.
January 10th, 2013 at 9:21 pm
if a coach from green bay gets hired I think I might be done caring…
no more f’n zbs!!!
January 10th, 2013 at 9:22 pm
WOW at first I didnt believe but.. .dayum KNAPP is back as OC crazy…
guess he promises to work harder on the RZ and with Pryor
January 10th, 2013 at 9:23 pm
did the raiders really go 4 and 12 this year? where have i been? last time i checked we were super bowl bound.
January 10th, 2013 at 9:25 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 9:22 pm
WOW at first I didnt believe but.. .dayum KNAPP is back as OC crazy…
guess he promises to work harder on the RZ and with Pryor
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told ya. crazy stuff man. da and knapps bromance was strong.
January 10th, 2013 at 9:31 pm
John Clayton reports the Raiders are the *only* team in the AFC west currently over the cap and only 1 of 10 teams in the *entire league* currently over the cap for the 2013 season.
Raiders are 4.5 million over the cap, Denver 18.5 million under, SD 8.7 million under, KC 16 million under.
More evidence Reggie absolutely *has* to find a way to trade, release or negotiate down the big salaries (we know who they are), trade down in the draft to get more and cheaper players this draft and/or more picks for 2014, and sign free agents with 1 year deals (again) to fill out the roster.
2013 will be another painful season I’m afraid. Looking at the schedule, expect 3-13. We will beat the Chiefs in KC and beat the Jags and Philly at home, otherwise expect another season like this one – lots of painful blowouts.
But the **good news** from all this pain is by 2014 we will have a full draft (1st time in 5 years!!), be well under the cap (1st time since?), Dennis Allen will be fired, we will hold the #1 pick with Menziel likely declaring, *and* the Raiders will be a much more attractive option for a legit coaching staff to be interested.
With aggressive house cleaning, 2 solid drafts and a legit coaching staff we could be back in the AFC west playoff hunt again in 2014.
January 10th, 2013 at 9:33 pm
Reggie is still taking a nap since the season ended?
I’ll check back next week…
Go Warriors!
January 10th, 2013 at 9:39 pm
Here’s our mid round Tackle (Left or Right) Day 1 Starter.
http://www.nola.com/lsu/index.ssf/2013/01/chris_faulks_family_supports_h.html#incart_flyout_sports
Was gonna be a sure fire 1st rounder last year before the injury. And he’s got something in common with Reggie.
January 10th, 2013 at 9:47 pm
Oakglen Says:
Read everything.
results are clear. very clear. even to me.
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Gotta like a man that knows his limitations.although
‘worst to the worst, oh why are we cursed’
shows you have a little poetry in you.
January 10th, 2013 at 9:48 pm
Norval Turner going to Browns as their OC.
It’s so awesome there has been absolutely *zero* news about the all important Raiders OC coach search.
Not even one frikin rumor.. hmm oh, perhaps that’s probably because there have been no interviews or absolutely no interest to be in Kindergarten Koaches sand box?
Just give the position to Al Saunders already. That is, if he’ll even take it. Of not, call Coach Flip and tell him this is his big chance! lol
It’s all about 2014 anyway.
January 10th, 2013 at 9:51 pm
G’d night, all.
January 10th, 2013 at 9:51 pm
John Clayton reports the Raiders are the *only* team in the AFC west currently over the cap and only 1 of 10 teams in the *entire league* currently over the cap for the 2013 season.
Raiders are 4.5 million over the cap, Denver 18.5 million under, SD 8.7 million under, KC 16 million under.
More evidence Reggie absolutely *has* to find a way to trade, release or negotiate down the big salaries (we know who they are), trade down in the draft to get more and cheaper players this draft and/or more picks for 2014, and sign free agents with 1 year deals (again) to fill out the roster.
2013 will be another painful season I’m afraid. Looking at the schedule, expect 3-13. We will beat the Chiefs in KC and beat the Jags and Philly at home, otherwise expect another season like this one – lots of painful blowouts.
But the **good news** from all this pain is by 2014 we will have a full draft (1st time in 5 years!!), be well under the cap (1st time since?), Dennis Allen will be fired, we will hold the #1 pick with Menziel likely declaring, *and* the Raiders will be a much more attractive option for a legit coaching staff to be interested.
With aggressive house cleaning, 2 solid drafts and a legit coaching staff we could be back in the AFC west playoff hunt again in 2014.
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Truth! Even with Clowney .. however Johnny Football too exciting to pass up. Just end up 1st or 2nd overall. U can even flip those picks too cuz there aint to Johnny football in this years draft or Brigewater..or Clowney.
next years number 1 pick will be at a Premieum. You prolly can get at least 2 number 1’s extra for clowney and at least 1 extra plus 2nds for johnny fooze ball. Although I dont think Reggie would do that
January 10th, 2013 at 9:53 pm
Btw u guys need to chill.. the next OC likely is gonna be off AtL staff PAT HILL. or GB.
Its Pat hill or Carmichael or some other dude off GB. Just chill till senior bowl
January 10th, 2013 at 9:54 pm
Agree with RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit
New OC will be someone DA knows either from the past (being on same staff at time) or friend.
January 10th, 2013 at 9:59 pm
This Blog? Chill?
Don’t think so. They gonna be in here ripping Reggie and DA first thing in the morning up until this time tomorrow.
A Reggie Presser is like dope. Everybody feels good right after and it wears off after a week. Then we fell like crap agaain and start tearing stuff up until our next fix (Reggie Presser).
January 10th, 2013 at 10:01 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 9:51 pm
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Truth! Even with Clowney .. however Johnny Football too exciting to pass up. Just end up 1st or 2nd overall. U can even flip those picks too cuz there aint to Johnny football in this years draft or Brigewater..or Clowney.
next years number 1 pick will be at a Premieum. You prolly can get at least 2 number 1’s extra for clowney and at least 1 extra plus 2nds for johnny fooze ball. Although I dont think Reggie would do that
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Imagine if we are sitting at #1 next year we will be able to trade Johnny GetHurt for a kings ransom similar to what Redskins gave up for RG3AndOut.
If Reggie can pull that off I will take back everything bad I have every said about him!
January 10th, 2013 at 10:04 pm
Where is this pat hill stuff coming from? Cork mentioned that too. The old guy with the stash pat hill?
January 10th, 2013 at 10:04 pm
Ya but Clowney will be in the draft too. DE/Pass rusher “once in a lifetime” type player so they say.. or once in an every 10 yr type player. Javon Kearse/ Reggie White they compare him to
January 10th, 2013 at 10:05 pm
Besides any HC worth his salt comes to Oakland these things must have been ironed out:
- Stadium situation: Bay Area or not? If not since Mark Davis is from LA area we will go there too.
- Salary cap mess needs to be over. Stop overpaying players. Hello Tollefson!
- who’s the QB after Palmer is gone in 2014?
DA is just a seat filler while we are dealing with the above.
January 10th, 2013 at 10:06 pm
Raider Guy
Cork and others just connecting the dots — similar to what ESPN’s John Clayton does these days.
Yep, the stash Pat Hill.
Current Falcons offensive line coach, former Fresno state head coach Pat Hill.
January 10th, 2013 at 10:06 pm
Where is this pat hill stuff coming from? Cork mentioned that too. The old guy with the stash pat hill?
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ya its been floatin around.. Pat Hill is their OLine coach right now. also a name to consider is ex Jags coach Malarkuey. former ATL OC
January 10th, 2013 at 10:06 pm
I’m going to be the new OC.
I’m gonna call a play that I know Palmer will audible out of every down.
That’s 5 extra wins right there. That should get me another year then I will expand the playbook to page 2. More RB dives on short yd plays and QB sneaks.
Then I’m going Denny Green style: 2 bombs every quarter. DBs will be pulling hammys left and right.
January 10th, 2013 at 10:09 pm
People get paid a lot of money to pick coaches and they know a lot more than me but I think that would be a mistake…can da and reg afford to have a guy be a first time oc next year? Plus the whole stash thing…
January 10th, 2013 at 10:09 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit
Here is to hoping both Clowney and Manziel stay healthy during the season next year.
Clowney’s teammate Lattimore (South Carolina running back) knows all about the one more year in college injury bug.
Clowney has no choice but to remain in college because he isn’t two years removed from high school. Same with Manziel.
January 10th, 2013 at 10:09 pm
1252.jackasspuria Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 10:06 pm
Raider Guy
Cork and others just connecting the dots — similar to what ESPN’s John Clayton does these days.
Yep, the stash Pat Hill.
Current Falcons offensive line coach, former Fresno state head coach Pat Hill.
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Yeah looks like the General (Car insurance commercials).
January 10th, 2013 at 10:11 pm
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-falcons-blog/2012/06/07/video-meet-new-offensive-line-coach-pat-hill/
January 10th, 2013 at 10:11 pm
Pat Hill = more zone blocking?
ugggh, oh brother… not with this personnel.
Oh, yeah, its all about getting the #1 pick in 2014 – Great Choice
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January 10th, 2013 at 10:13 pm
Raider Guy
When he was head coach at Fresno State, Pat Hill was a name linked to the Raiders head coaching job when Al Davis was scouring for potential candidates.
I don’t remember if he was the chief play caller at Fresno St. or not.
But, when he was canned, he got a lot of phone calls from colleges, NFL teams before becoming the Falcons’ O-line coach.
January 10th, 2013 at 10:16 pm
Jack, I remember that now that you say it. His people were telling al that he had to interview him before a certain date and then they would change the date. As I recall he never did end up getting the interview…instead we went with art she’ll or lame kitten…maybe he should have gotten the interview.
January 10th, 2013 at 10:16 pm
Pat Hill was the Chip Kelly of Coaching about 5 yrs ago or so.. he was the “hot” name.
He took a little program from Fresno and made them pretty big time program.. they were beating alot of good teams.. then his last few yrs at fresno were kind of fair.
January 10th, 2013 at 10:17 pm
4.5
McClain cut
Kelly cut
DHB renegotiation or cut
DMac renegotiation, traded, or cut
Solves the cap, improving the team at the same time.
January 10th, 2013 at 10:17 pm
I wouldn’t disrespect art by putting she’ll…that was an auto correct put down. Sorry
January 10th, 2013 at 10:18 pm
Don’t forget seymor
January 10th, 2013 at 10:22 pm
One of the last things Pat HIll did a Fresno was he and his offensive staff got the most out of Ryan Mathews.
Hill and Co. made Mathews look good enough for the Chargers to invest a 1st-round pick to get the former Bulldog runner.
January 10th, 2013 at 10:22 pm
UCLA Raiders Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 10:05 pm
Besides any HC worth his salt comes to Oakland these things must have been ironed out:
- Stadium situation: Bay Area or not? If not since Mark Davis is from LA area we will go there too.
- Salary cap mess needs to be over. Stop overpaying players. Hello Tollefson!
- who’s the QB after Palmer is gone in 2014?
DA is just a seat filler while we are dealing with the above.
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Bingo! Maybe Reggie not as dumb as he leads on. DA is cheap and can play the discipline role while Reggie turns over the roster.
Meanwhile, regardless of the posturing, Mark Davis is *begging* to move to LA. Question is, do they want the Raiders and is he willing to sell majority stake in the team to pull it off – my answer is likely yes as he can’t pay the inheritance tax anyway. The only hurdle is if Spanos beats him to it. With the way the teams are conferenced the only 2 realistic AFC teams are the Raiders or Chargers. Can’t move the Jags without reconferencing and that would be a mess (move KC to the AFC south? doubt it).
The future QB and the future head coach are not on the staff. When the Raiders move to LA in 2015, expect Gruden to be serious about a return. Although I don’t think we would need him then.
January 10th, 2013 at 10:25 pm
I’m just waiting for the announcement from DA after waiting for weeks to interview people “we are proud to announce our newest offensive coordinator – he did amazing things with the Jets Offense and Mark Sanchez this year and we think he can really turn our offense around. Tony Sparano!!!”
WTF are we waiting for? Our options to be limited to crap like him?
January 10th, 2013 at 10:25 pm
CDERaider
Read in both the Los Angeles Times and Los Angeles Daily News, the ownership group in L.A. wants two NFL teams in the market sharing the stadium.
January 10th, 2013 at 10:31 pm
jackasspuria Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 10:25 pm
CDERaider
Read in both the Los Angeles Times and Los Angeles Daily News, the ownership group in L.A. wants two NFL teams in the market sharing the stadium.
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Yup and other team will be the Rams. It’ll be the return of the Los Angeles/San Diego and Los Angeles/San Francisco football rivalries. That’s big money my friend. And big money talks.
January 10th, 2013 at 10:32 pm
Tollefson and Brisiel contract need to be renegotiated, traded, or cut as well.
January 10th, 2013 at 10:34 pm
Wow. Are u guys seriously talking NOT about the 2013 draft but NEXT YEARS DRAFT? and having the # 1 pick……in 2014?
That is really depressing.
I’m getting too old for this.
We should’ve just kept Knapp then.
January 10th, 2013 at 10:41 pm
Wasn’t there supposed to be a meeting Tuesday between Raiders and some superintendants or something in regard to the OCO lease?
Is it a bad sign that we haven’t heard anything about the result of that meeting?
Does anybody think a stadium deal is gonna happen in Oakland? I thought something was kind of in the works.
Raiders do need a new stadium. If LA doesn’t work out…then what?
January 10th, 2013 at 10:41 pm
The Browns hope the first-time head coach can end years of despair and constant losing, and maybe resurrect a franchise that has made just one trip to the playoffs in the past 14 years.
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Anytime you think you got it bad,always somebody worse
January 10th, 2013 at 10:44 pm
They have a HC I’m fairly confident in, and probably will move fast to bring in some good support coaching unlike what we did with a college co-defensive coordinator and a retread unsuccessful OC.
And now? Still waiting for change….
January 10th, 2013 at 10:52 pm
Moose
On the plus side for the Brownies – Chudzinski is the guy that made Derek Anderson into a Pro Bowler when he was the play caller in Cleveland a few years back.
Now that is a miracle worker.
January 10th, 2013 at 10:55 pm
I hate mumbles and DA they r worthless
January 10th, 2013 at 11:00 pm
Ian85
I’d be mumbling too if my boss — and team owner — sported that awful looking Lloyd Christmas bowl cut.
January 10th, 2013 at 11:06 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 10:41 pm
Wasn’t there supposed to be a meeting Tuesday between Raiders and some superintendants or something in regard to the OCO lease?
Is it a bad sign that we haven’t heard anything about the result of that meeting?
Does anybody think a stadium deal is gonna happen in Oakland? I thought something was kind of in the works.
Raiders do need a new stadium. If LA doesn’t work out…then what?
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It’s LA or Santa Clara. There is just no way Oakland gets a new stadium, period. Regardless of what the stupid mayor says. Unless Ellison buys the team and privately finances it – unlikely. Santa Clara is not as attractive to Davis because the whiners are the ‘primary tenant’ meaning its their stadium and they get all the juicy revenue, Raiders would essentially have to lease the stadium from them and from what I’ve heard the terms are not favorable to say the least. All the big dollar things like super bowls the Raiders would get no piece of and of course the stigma of being 2nd tier tenant would suck. Moving to LA is a different story as it would be a more equitable deal b/w the teams and Raiders going in from the start would be in a better position to call it ‘home’ and get a piece of all the monies showered on it, including multiple super bowls, etc.
Frankly the Santa Clara option is probably the least painful in terms of not having to move headquaters, camp and keep (most) of the existing bay area fanbase but the LA option is better for Davis financially and it would be pretty cool to have the Raiders in a $2 billion stadium (by the time its built) that they can call ‘home’.
The 3rd option is to stay in Oakland. If so, the Raiders will perpetually be one of the least profitable teams in the league as the revenues just aren’t there – they have little or no corporate sponsorship, luxury box sales are minimal, and they can’t raise normal ticket prices to compensate as they can’t even sell the stadium out now with some of the lowest prices in the league.
We’ll know soon enough. The deadline for team applications for LA are due Feb 15 and the Raiders lease is up after this season so we’ll know either way. LA officials have already approved the downtown stadium deal and the Pasadena Rose Bowl officials voted to accommodate whoever moves temporarily till the new stadium is built.
January 10th, 2013 at 11:22 pm
CDERaider Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 10:22 pm
UCLA Raiders Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 10:05 pm
Besides any HC worth his salt comes to Oakland these things must have been ironed out:
- Stadium situation: Bay Area or not? If not since Mark Davis is from LA area we will go there too.
- Salary cap mess needs to be over. Stop overpaying players. Hello Tollefson!
- who’s the QB after Palmer is gone in 2014?
DA is just a seat filler while we are dealing with the above.
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Bingo! Maybe Reggie not as dumb as he leads on. DA is cheap and can play the discipline role while Reggie turns over the roster.
Meanwhile, regardless of the posturing, Mark Davis is *begging* to move to LA. Question is, do they want the Raiders and is he willing to sell majority stake in the team to pull it off – my answer is likely yes as he can’t pay the inheritance tax anyway. The only hurdle is if Spanos beats him to it. With the way the teams are conferenced the only 2 realistic AFC teams are the Raiders or Chargers. Can’t move the Jags without reconferencing and that would be a mess (move KC to the AFC south? doubt it).
The future QB and the future head coach are not on the staff. When the Raiders move to LA in 2015, expect Gruden to be serious about a return. Although I don’t think we would need him then.
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Yep. Sadly. This seems to be the inconvenient truth.
Chargers or Raiders will sell out to LA.
The inheritance tax a huge thing that Davis can’t pay on.
The actual ideal new stadium location for the Raiders would be the Camp Parks site in Dublin. Perfect location with BART access and right in the middle of two major freeways in 680 and 580 and in the middle of the Raiders fan base in three counties. Alameda, Contra Costa and San Joaquin.
The new stadium in that area would sell out very quickly.
Otherwise, Davis is going to be forced to sell half his stake of the Raiders to the LA group and move to downtwon LA stadium location near Staples.
This is becoming evident. Ugh
January 10th, 2013 at 11:27 pm
CDERaider Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 9:48 pm
Norval Turner going to Browns as their OC.
It’s so awesome there has been absolutely *zero* news about the all important Raiders OC coach search.
Not even one frikin rumor.. hmm oh, perhaps that’s probably because there have been no interviews or absolutely no interest to be in Kindergarten Koaches sand box?
Just give the position to Al Saunders already. That is, if he’ll even take it. Of not, call Coach Flip and tell him this is his big chance! lol
It’s all about 2014 anyway.
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Exactly. Just go with Saunders and hope he takes it.
January 10th, 2013 at 11:30 pm
Back-N-Black Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 7:27 pm
Rob Chudzinksi next Browns HC
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Aaaaaaand the Browns will continue to stink. Bills hired Syracuse coach and now Browns go with Chud?
Ooofff….and I thought we had it bad here?
January 10th, 2013 at 11:30 pm
I think Reggie might be suprised how nobody that is out there even gives a dayum about being interviewed by him and DA
they all drive right by this team as a legitimate spot to coach. KNAPP must have been telling his boys dont touch that place.
January 10th, 2013 at 11:31 pm
“The actual ideal new stadium location for the Raiders would be the Camp Parks site in Dublin. Perfect location with BART access and right in the middle of two major freeways in 680 and 580 and in the middle of the Raiders fan base in three counties. Alameda, Contra Costa and San Joaquin.”
Ideal years ago before they left for Socal, but tell me, do you really think the citizens of Dublin want their nice family town to be linked to the image of the Raiders and their fan base, at least the portion of the fan base of crazy costumes and indulgers in certain other pasttimes? Further, as if they aren’t enough to make Dubliners say “No way,” there’s always the gang-bangers who come up from LA to hang around the games.
January 10th, 2013 at 11:35 pm
CDERaider Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 9:31 pm
John Clayton reports the Raiders are the *only* team in the AFC west currently over the cap and only 1 of 10 teams in the *entire league* currently over the cap for the 2013 season.
Raiders are 4.5 million over the cap, Denver 18.5 million under, SD 8.7 million under, KC 16 million under.
More evidence Reggie absolutely *has* to find a way to trade, release or negotiate down the big salaries (we know who they are), trade down in the draft to get more and cheaper players this draft and/or more picks for 2014, and sign free agents with 1 year deals (again) to fill out the roster.
2013 will be another painful season I’m afraid. Looking at the schedule, expect 3-13. We will beat the Chiefs in KC and beat the Jags and Philly at home, otherwise expect another season like this one – lots of painful blowouts.
But the **good news** from all this pain is by 2014 we will have a full draft (1st time in 5 years!!), be well under the cap (1st time since?), Dennis Allen will be fired, we will hold the #1 pick with Menziel likely declaring, *and* the Raiders will be a much more attractive option for a legit coaching staff to be interested.
With aggressive house cleaning, 2 solid drafts and a legit coaching staff we could be back in the AFC west playoff hunt again in 2014.
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Clowney or Manziel to Raiders with the 1st overall pick next year in 2014!
January 10th, 2013 at 11:37 pm
Shutdown Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 11:31 pm
“The actual ideal new stadium location for the Raiders would be the Camp Parks site in Dublin. Perfect location with BART access and right in the middle of two major freeways in 680 and 580 and in the middle of the Raiders fan base in three counties. Alameda, Contra Costa and San Joaquin.”
Ideal years ago before they left for Socal, but tell me, do you really think the citizens of Dublin want their nice family town to be linked to the image of the Raiders and their fan base, at least the portion of the fan base of crazy costumes and indulgers in certain other pasttimes? Further, as if they aren’t enough to make Dubliners say “No way,” there’s always the gang-bangers who come up from LA to hang around the games.
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Who gives a crap what they want? It’s about making that town money and bringing jobs and revenue.
Plus it’s only 8 Raider home games a season.
Most of the low life gangbangers will be priced and squeezed out anyways from a new stadium.
The big corporations will be taking over most of the good seats.
January 10th, 2013 at 11:51 pm
I thought I read a month or so back that the Raiders extended their lease at O.Co
January 10th, 2013 at 11:55 pm
DKnight007 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 11:37 pm
Shutdown Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 11:31 pm
“The actual ideal new stadium location for the Raiders would be the Camp Parks site in Dublin. Perfect location with BART access and right in the middle of two major freeways in 680 and 580 and in the middle of the Raiders fan base in three counties. Alameda, Contra Costa and San Joaquin.”
Ideal years ago before they left for Socal, but tell me, do you really think the citizens of Dublin want their nice family town to be linked to the image of the Raiders and their fan base, at least the portion of the fan base of crazy costumes and indulgers in certain other pasttimes? Further, as if they aren’t enough to make Dubliners say “No way,” there’s always the gang-bangers who come up from LA to hang around the games.
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Who gives a crap what they want? It’s about making that town money and bringing jobs and revenue.
Plus it’s only 8 Raider home games a season.
Most of the low life gangbangers will be priced and squeezed out anyways from a new stadium.
The big corporations will be taking over most of the good seats.
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Not good logic. County of Alameda was on the hook for a ton of $ after signing on the dotted line with the raiders and a lot of counties took notice. granted was when al was around
January 10th, 2013 at 11:57 pm
Hear this from all the good coaches. Allen forced to say he believes in this at his last presser, but all year was saying the opposite.
Here’s new Bills DC, Mike Pettine…
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Pettine talked about his new job with the Bills’ official website, and he was asked whether he’ll be using a 3-4 or a 4-3.
“The answer is really yes to both,” Pettine said. “We’ll be a multiple front, multiple coverage defense. The trademark of our defense is we’re going to be smart, tough and relentless. How we configure it is more player-driven. I’ve always believed that you don’t fit your players to your scheme, but you fit your scheme to your players. What I see here is a group of explosive athletes and playmakers and we’re going to put them in a position to do just that. We’re going to be in the configuration that gives us the best opportunity to win football games.”
January 11th, 2013 at 12:01 am
Great article on the (sad) state of the Raiders in Oakland :
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-12-20/oakland-pays-17-million-for-nfl-raiders-as-cops-get-cut.html
… With interest, the amount owed by the Raiders on its loans now totals $124.8 million, according to a financial statement for the coliseum authority, as revenue from the stadium hasn’t generated enough to cover all costs. Taxpayers must continue repaying the original debt, which with refinancings now totals about $145 million, according to financial records.
The team pays $525,000 a year, along with 50 percent of the take from concessions and parking, for interest on the loan, Trask said. The outstanding principal is secured by the Raiders’ 20-acre headquarters and training facility near Oakland International Airport. The property would revert to public ownership if the team left town. The Raiders also will pay about $1.5 million in 2012 in rent and other revenue unrelated to the loan. Since 1995, the team has paid “hundreds of millions” from seat-license fees, premium seating and other building revenue, she said.
“Every year we pay a tremendous amount of money, some of which is deemed repayment, some of which is revenue they receive as a result of us playing in the facility,” Trask said. “When you add together everything the city and county received pursuant to our agreement and through the past 17 years, it’s literally hundreds of millions.”
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The writing is on the wall…. I just hope Mark doesn’t sell to someone who is going to do something stupid like rebrand the team..
January 11th, 2013 at 12:22 am
Dear God, compared to that our salary cap situation is a drop in the well. It’s infuriating to think about how our franchise is almost destined for failure and displacement.
Just another reason to thank Al, I suppose. Any creator has a right to destroy the creation; I just wish it had been intentional at least.
January 11th, 2013 at 12:24 am
Jackasspuria Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 10:52 pm
Moose
On the plus side for the Brownies – Chudzinski is the guy that made Derek Anderson into a Pro Bowler when he was the play caller in Cleveland a few years back.
Now that is a miracle worker
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is it the coaching or the talent , think this answers it lol
January 11th, 2013 at 12:30 am
GG, how much are the Bills on the hook for that defense? I seem to remember it being pretty costly. That DC is going to be under a microscope because of all that “talent” they brought in.
January 11th, 2013 at 12:38 am
Papertiger418 Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 12:22 am
Dear God, compared to that our salary cap situation is a drop in the well. It’s infuriating to think about how our franchise is almost destined for failure and displacement.
Just another reason to thank Al, I suppose. Any creator has a right to destroy the creation; I just wish it had been intentional at least.
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Common man if you was dying you would try to win the big show ONE MORE TIME..even great Kings of the past did the same as AL and would leave their siblings the mess to clean-up,does not mean the reign was bad
January 11th, 2013 at 12:47 am
Moose Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 12:38 am
Papertiger418 Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 12:22 am
Dear God, compared to that our salary cap situation is a drop in the well. It’s infuriating to think about how our franchise is almost destined for failure and displacement.
Just another reason to thank Al, I suppose. Any creator has a right to destroy the creation; I just wish it had been intentional at least.
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Common man if you was dying you would try to win the big show ONE MORE TIME..even great Kings of the past did the same as AL and would leave their siblings the mess to clean-up,does not mean the reign was bad
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Many great kings, and not so great kings destroyed the empire due to their ego’s, and most of those kings met an untimely death due to their decisions.
Days of old Al would have been ousted decades ago. Very likely in a grisly manner.
Like it or not, Al’s reign ended as bad as it possibly could.
20 yrs ago someone should have told the Emperor he is buck naked, but no one had the balls.
January 11th, 2013 at 12:51 am
Amy should have been pushing Al to budddy up with the Niners for Santa Clara, like Giants did with Jets. Made total sense.
again, ego’s got in the way of smart business.
January 11th, 2013 at 12:53 am
Yes the dying do indeed crave one last shot at immortal glory. Especially megalomaniacs, which Al undoubtedly was. It reminds me of that poem by Percy Blythe Shelley:
I met a traveller from an ancient land who said:
Two vast and trunkless legs of stone stand
In the desert. Near them, on the sand,
Half-buried, a shattered visage lies
Whose frown and wrinkled lip and sneer
Of cold command tell well its sculptor read
Those passions which yet survive,
Stamped upon these lifeless things
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed.
And on a pedestal these words appeared:
My name is Ozymandias. Look upon my works,
Ye mighty, and despair!
Nothing beside remains ’round the decay
of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.
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Our team is pretty much like that, except with a severely f@cked cap situation
January 11th, 2013 at 1:12 am
We need an OC who thinks like this, the raider way…
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Aggressive, offensive-minded coach right pick
Posted by Vic Carucci on January 11, 2013 – 4:30 am
By Vic Carucci, Senior Editor
In the end, going with an aggressive, offensive-minded head coach made the most sense for the Cleveland Browns.
And that is Rob Chudzinski’s football calling card.
Does he have the big, splashy name? No.
But this is what Chudzinski, whom the Browns hired on Thursday night, does have:
>>The belief that a passing attack should be exactly that – an attack.
>>The belief that an offense needs to constantly seek big plays through the air.
>>The belief that stretching the field is the best way to thwart a defense and provide the surest path to victory in the pass-happy NFL.
When Browns owner Jimmy Haslam and chief executive officer Joe Banner talked on Dec. 31 about finding the “right guy” to replace Pat Shurmur as head coach, those were the core traits they had in mind.
They were looking for someone who – besides being a strong leader, tough-minded, and detail-oriented – could get the most out of the foundation of young, explosive players already in place and those who will no doubt be added via the draft and free agency.
They were looking for someone precisely like Chudzinski, who had been the offensive coordinator for the Carolina Panthers and who previously held that job with the Browns.
The part of his resume that says it all about the sort of impact he can have is this: Chudzinski oversaw the best offense the Browns have had since returning to Cleveland in 1999. That came during the 2007 season, when the Browns generated 5,621 total yards, 3,726 passing yards, 402 points, and 10 victories.
There is every reason to believe Chudzinski can make the same thing happen again.
In ’07, he had Derek Anderson as his quarterback, squeezing more out of his skills than anyone could imagine.
If the Browns stick with Brandon Weeden for a second season, Chudzinski is more than capable of helping their first-round pick last year take major forward steps. And if they don’t, he has the capacity to have success with yet another quarterback.
Chudzinski’s style is to adapt to the talent of his players, and put them in the best position to produce.
In Carolina, he helped Cam Newton, the top overall pick of the 2011 draft, become the first rookie in league history to throw for 4,000 yards. Along the way, Newton set an NFL record for rushing touchdowns by a quarterback with 14 and was named the Associated Press Offensive Rookie of the Year.
What could Chudzinski do with Trent Richardson? Consider that, also in 2011, the Panthers became the first team in league history with three 700-yard rushers in DeAngelo Williams (836), Jonathan Stewart (761), and Newton (706).
Those are, indeed, the credentials of the “right guy” to lead the Browns.
January 11th, 2013 at 1:14 am
papertiger418 Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 12:30 am
GG, how much are the Bills on the hook for that defense? I seem to remember it being pretty costly. That DC is going to be under a microscope because of all that “talent” they brought in.
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See this excellent site for breakdown on all such things…
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/
January 11th, 2013 at 1:19 am
Tabs at the top for added detail like…
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/depth-chart/
January 11th, 2013 at 1:32 am
I love the irony and the poetry but a loyalist i am,and so shall reamain……for my 30 years of joy i can take the ……10 years of pain..
January 11th, 2013 at 3:29 am
Norv Turner to join Browns staff as offensive coordinator
After the Cleveland Browns named Carolina offensive coordinator Rob Chudzinski as their new head coach Wednesday night, the Browns have already begun adding to their new coaching staff.
According to Peter Schrager of FOX Sports, the Browns are expected to hire former San Diego Chargers head coach Norv Turner as their new offensive coordinator. The Chargers fired Turner on Dec. 31.
Chudzinski served as assistant head coach and tight ends coach for the Chargers under Turner from 2009-2010. It will be Turner’s fifth stop as an offensive coordinator. Turner was the offensive coordinator for the Dallas Cowboys from 1991-1993, the Chargers in 2001, the Miami Dolphins from 2002-2003 and the San Francisco 49ers in 2006.
January 11th, 2013 at 3:34 am
DJ Johnny Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 10:41 pm
Wasn’t there supposed to be a meeting Tuesday between Raiders and some superintendants or something in regard to the OCO lease?
Is it a bad sign that we haven’t heard anything about the result of that meeting?
Does anybody think a stadium deal is gonna happen in Oakland? I thought something was kind of in the works.
Raiders do need a new stadium. If LA doesn’t work out…then what?
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NFL will help them finance a stadium, if they can get a principal owner to put up another portion of the amount – NFL may agree to 200 million – if it goes through, i guarantee you they will find some way to screw the 49ers for not sharing all the revenue they’d get from a combined fan base…esp if Goddell is still the commissioner
January 11th, 2013 at 3:47 am
DKnight007 Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 11:35 pm
CDERaider Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 9:31 pm
John Clayton reports the Raiders are the *only* team in the AFC west currently over the cap and only 1 of 10 teams in the *entire league* currently over the cap for the 2013 season.
Raiders are 4.5 million over the cap, Denver 18.5 million under, SD 8.7 million under, KC 16 million under.
More evidence Reggie absolutely *has* to find a way to trade, release or negotiate down the big salaries (we know who they are), trade down in the draft to get more and cheaper players this draft and/or more picks for 2014, and sign free agents with 1 year deals (again) to fill out the roster.
2013 will be another painful season I’m afraid. Looking at the schedule, expect 3-13. We will beat the Chiefs in KC and beat the Jags and Philly at home, otherwise expect another season like this one – lots of painful blowouts.
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i think the issue is
1. who replaces Seymour – Star Louletelei? Johnathan Hankins? Desmond Bryant?
2. what impact rusher could we get by trading down – Demontre Moore, Barkevious Mingo?
3. do we get an additional RT(Will Svitek, and a receiver to get Carson Palmer help
4. of course, what OC could best jump start McFadden and find a way to implement Pryor and a lot more of the speed guys on roster
5. what other secondary help could we beg borrow or steal – D.Rodgers-Cromartie, Dashon Goldson, Brent Grimes?
6. getting those bargain FA’s like the Colts did; Darius Butler, etc. Colts struck big because Pagano brought over “his guys” Cory Redding, Zbikowski, and all the signings were low cost and low risk – they need Reggie to fill a need and provide and upgrade for the person they were brought into replace.
the sooner people stop worrying about Javedon Clowney or Manziel and DEAL WITH REALITY OF 2013 – and grow a pair of balls, and GET RESOURCEFUL – the winning will begin.
How about BELIEVING IN THE FREAKING TEAM?
maybe that stuff might just work – and the team itself believes, too.
January 11th, 2013 at 3:59 am
“he Pittsburgh Steelers have waived running back Chris Rainey after he was arrested and charged with one count of simple battery (dating violence).”–Fox Sports.
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Pittburgh cuts Rainey after he gets into a dispute with his girlgfriend over his cell phone.
She grabs it and runs of and he slaps her in the face and grabs it back.
Meanwhile, McClain gets involved in an incident where he’s charged with shooting off a gun near someone’s head and Hue and the Raiders look the other way and McKenzie looks the other way when McClain tells a cop in writing “fik y’all”.
January 11th, 2013 at 5:24 am
1305.ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 3:59 am
“he Pittsburgh Steelers have waived running back Chris Rainey after he was arrested and charged with one count of simple battery (dating violence).”–Fox Sports.
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Pittburgh cuts Rainey after he gets into a dispute with his girlgfriend over his cell phone.
She grabs it and runs of and he slaps her in the face and grabs it back.
Meanwhile, McClain gets involved in an incident where he’s charged with shooting off a gun near someone’s head and Hue and the Raiders look the other way and McKenzie looks the other way when McClain tells a cop in writing “fik y’all”.
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No. Rainey was a fifth round draft pick and cutting him immediately cost the Steelers nothing. McClain was a first round pick and would have cost the cash-strapped Raiders a lot of money to cut immediately. He hasn’t played since his little practice tantrum late in the year and likely won’t see another snap in a Raider uniform. Sure, the guy’s still on the roster, but do you really think he’s going to be by the beginning of training camp next year?
January 11th, 2013 at 5:24 am
ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk
Jimmy Johnson tweets that Marc Trestman’s getting Bears job http://wp.me/p14QSB-6T77
January 11th, 2013 at 5:26 am
5-6 low cost FAs and at least 7 draft picks to make team
RT Khalif Barnes
RG Cooper Carlisle
MLB Omar Gaither – draft pick/Kaluka Maiava
FS Matt Giordano – Ryan Mundy/Louis Delmas
RB Mike Goodson – Justin Forsett/Kevin Smith/Kahlil Bell/Chris Ivory via trade
CB Joselio Hanson – Derek Cox/draft pick/E.J. Biggers/Kyle Arrington/Jacob Lacey
P Shane Lechler
QB Matt Leinart – Chase Daniel/Stephen McGee
SS Mike Mitchell – James Sanders/draft pick/Corey Lynch
TE Brandon Myers – Michael Hoomanawanui
DT Richard Seymour – Henry Melton/Star Loulelei
DE Matt Shaughnessy – draft pick
CB Shawntae Spencer – Keenan Lewis/William Middleton/draft pick/Sean Smith 6yr/36 mil 18g
LB Phillip Wheeler – re-signed 4.5 mil
January 11th, 2013 at 5:32 am
Browns hired Panthers OC Rob Chudzinski last night. The coaching carousel is starting to fill back up again quickly.
January 11th, 2013 at 5:38 am
edward teach Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 5:24 am
1305.ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 3:59 am
“he Pittsburgh Steelers have waived running back Chris Rainey after he was arrested and charged with one count of simple battery (dating violence).”–Fox Sports.
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Pittburgh cuts Rainey after he gets into a dispute with his girlgfriend over his cell phone.
She grabs it and runs of and he slaps her in the face and grabs it back.
Meanwhile, McClain gets involved in an incident where he’s charged with shooting off a gun near someone’s head and Hue and the Raiders look the other way and McKenzie looks the other way when McClain tells a cop in writing “fik y’all”.
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No. Rainey was a fifth round draft pick and cutting him immediately cost the Steelers nothing. McClain was a first round pick and would have cost the cash-strapped Raiders a lot of money to cut immediately. He hasn’t played since his little practice tantrum late in the year and likely won’t see another snap in a Raider uniform. Sure, the guy’s still on the roster, but do you really think he’s going to be by the beginning of training camp next year?
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Yes, I know all of that ET.
And no, I don’t expect him to be here next year and I yes I do know why McKenzie has waited.
That wasn’t my point.
I was comparing the behaviour tolerance level of Pittsburgh to that of the Raiders for years-not just in Hue’s time-and suggesting, perhaps obliquely, that it had something to do the attitude of the players over the years.
January 11th, 2013 at 5:46 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Happy Aloha Friday! You guys think we will ANYTHING about anything today?
January 11th, 2013 at 5:49 am
Aloha!!
Anything about anything eh? That’s a good question.
January 11th, 2013 at 5:51 am
Is Chudzinski bringing the “wave of the future” offense to Cleveland?
What will be left of it in Carolina?
January 11th, 2013 at 5:54 am
Probably need to look a little closer at the Steelers then, England. Rainey had some serious issues at Florida with the exact same type of behavior, but they drafted him anyway. This was his second episode in a month and he apparently had a clause in his contract that specifically mentioned that he had to avoid that sort of behavior.
Alameda T’amu was their fourth round selection. He was arrested for DUI and assaulting a police officer. He was suspended and then released, only to be signed to the practice squad. He is now on their active roster. James Harrison’s comments about delliberately trying to injure players comes to mind as well.
I wouldn’t exactly hold the Steelers up as examples of how to handle behavioral issues.
January 11th, 2013 at 5:54 am
I KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT NOTHING AND ANYTHING ABOUT EVERYTHING AND,OH NEVERMIND..
January 11th, 2013 at 5:56 am
Is Chudzinski bringing the “wave of the future” offense to Cleveland?
What will be left of it in Carolina?
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Twitters are tying Chud to Norv Turner. Said to be a lock to follow him. Also expect Cleveland to go to a 3-4 attack D.
January 11th, 2013 at 5:59 am
cross Norv off the OC hire list.
January 11th, 2013 at 6:01 am
No “wave of the future” in Cleveland. What you saw in San Diego is what you’ll see in Cleveland.
January 11th, 2013 at 6:01 am
So Chud is bailing on the “space-aged” offense, and is going with a 1992 NFL offense.
Interesting.
January 11th, 2013 at 6:04 am
In a lot of ways, Weeden reminds me of P. Rivers. Got that big arm and Norv likes to throw it high to his tall WR’s. They got Little and Gordon to throw to in Cleveland and Richardson can take the LT role. It kinda makes sense.
January 11th, 2013 at 6:06 am
Attack! Spread…attack!
Wait…isn’t that what DA wanted to install last season??? Maybe Defilippo is their guy, hence the all quiet on the Alameda front!
January 11th, 2013 at 6:07 am
ANDY RIED IN K.C. WILL BE INTERESTING WHO ENDS UP IN SAN DIEGO..
January 11th, 2013 at 6:07 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 5:54 am
I KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT NOTHING AND ANYTHING ABOUT EVERYTHING AND,OH NEVERMIND..
LOL, although I still never met the 3 guys, Somebody, Nobody, and I Don’t Know!
January 11th, 2013 at 6:22 am
edward teach Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 5:54 am
Probably need to look a little closer at the Steelers then, England. …..
I wouldn’t exactly hold the Steelers up as examples of how to handle behavioral issues.
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Lol.
No, I wasn’t really trying to do that either.
Frankly, I could care fuk’n less how Pittsburgh handles its players, but I do think that the Raiders need to change the attitude in the clubhouse.
January 11th, 2013 at 6:23 am
I guess Norvell will not being coming aboard.
January 11th, 2013 at 6:26 am
“Good luck SF” and SF jersey on a Raiders blog?!
WTF is wrong with you Cork ?
January 11th, 2013 at 6:29 am
I never thought Norv coming here was much of an option, unless Norv had ZERO other offers.
Doesn’t know our staff, and left with a bad taste in his mouth last time.
We were clinging to the hope he wanted to return to NorCal, but he jumped at the opportunity to go to Cleveland.
CLEVELAND!!!!!!
January 11th, 2013 at 6:31 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 6:29 am
I never thought Norv coming here was much of an option, unless Norv had ZERO other offers.
Doesn’t know our staff, and left with a bad taste in his mouth last time.
We were clinging to the hope he wanted to return to NorCal, but he jumped at the opportunity to go to Cleveland.
CLEVELAND!!!!!!
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It’s a sad state of affairs when the retreads won’t even come!
January 11th, 2013 at 6:32 am
Why do people keep saying “I could care less”? So…. You do care?
I don’t get it.
I couldn’t care less means that you don’t care.
January 11th, 2013 at 6:33 am
HOF finalists revealed…
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000124965/article/pro-football-hall-of-fame-names-15-modernera-finalists?campaign=Twitter_news
January 11th, 2013 at 6:34 am
Corky has to be unbiased because he is a Bay Area writer…although, I never thought he was an Oakland fan anyways…
January 11th, 2013 at 6:34 am
Timmy Brown and Warren Sapp up for hall of fame.
(FK Sapp)
January 11th, 2013 at 6:34 am
Has it been confirmed that Norv is going to Cleveland or its speculation?
January 11th, 2013 at 6:36 am
I hate Sapp. He is ignorant and loud even when he is doing other shows. My wife was watching a cooking show, and Sapp was a judge.
January 11th, 2013 at 6:37 am
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 6:23 am
I guess Norvell will not being coming aboard.
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How do you know that Bush?
January 11th, 2013 at 6:38 am
Raider O Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 6:36 am
I hate Sapp. He is ignorant and loud even when he is doing other shows. My wife was watching a cooking show, and Sapp was a judge.
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Hey O! I saw that they had a load of snow in Jordan!
January 11th, 2013 at 6:38 am
Raider O Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 6:36 am
I hate Sapp. He is ignorant and loud even when he is doing other shows. My wife was watching a cooking show, and Sapp was a judge.
A judge on a cooking show? WOW!
January 11th, 2013 at 6:39 am
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/jason-la-canfora/21537955/browns-hiring-of-chudzinski-makes-them-front-runners-for-norv-turner
This is one of numerous sources and the twitterverse is practically confirming it. Not done yet, but a lot more than just speculation.
January 11th, 2013 at 6:42 am
Seems Marc Trestman is the favorite for Chicago’s job, so maybe we do have a shot at Carmichael.
January 11th, 2013 at 6:42 am
Raider O Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 6:36 am
I hate Sapp. He is ignorant and loud even when he is doing other shows. My wife was watching a cooking show, and Sapp was a judge
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Good Morning Raider bros,
I also cannot stand Sapp. I can’t believe the NFL network put this blowhard idiot (along with Irving) on their pre-game show. They add nothing in intelligent pre game analysis. I currently like Faulk and when they had Rod Woodson.
January 11th, 2013 at 6:43 am
The Pro Football Hall of Fame Selection Committee’s 17 finalists for 2013:
Larry Allen (G/T), Jerome Bettis (RB), Tim Brown (WR), Cris Carter (WR), Curley Culp (DT/G), Edward DeBartolo Jr. (owner), Kevin Greene (LB), Charles Haley (DE), Art Modell (owner), Jonathan Ogden (OT), Bill Parcells (coach), Andre Reed (WR), Dave Robinson (LB), Warren Sapp (DT), Will Shields (G), Michael Strahan (DE), Aeneas Williams (CB)
January 11th, 2013 at 6:43 am
Whatever you think of Sapp, I think he’s lead pipe lock to get in the HOF on the first try. Strahan gets in just on his trumped up fluky sack record that brett favre giftwrapped him.
January 11th, 2013 at 6:44 am
Charlie is right. I don’t think a vet/ established OC will be interested in working for the Raiders under DA who was a DC for ONE year before we hired him unless we promise him an opportunity to be our HC when we fire DA.
January 11th, 2013 at 6:45 am
I think Bruce Arians is the front runner for San Diego’s HC, and he will keep John Pagano and the defense intact.
January 11th, 2013 at 6:45 am
Seems Marc Trestman is the favorite for Chicago’s job, so maybe we do have a shot at Carmichael.
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That we were ever rumoring Trestman as our OC is now laughable considering he’s going to Chicago’s HC.
January 11th, 2013 at 6:46 am
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 6:38 am
Raider O Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 6:36 am
I hate Sapp. He is ignorant and loud even when he is doing other shows. My wife was watching a cooking show, and Sapp was a judge.
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Hey O! I saw that they had a load of snow in Jordan!
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I didn’t hear about the snow, but I know they had floods this season..
January 11th, 2013 at 6:46 am
Good Morning Raider Nation!!! Is it a good day for Reggie and Co. to be more full of Mularkey than usual?
January 11th, 2013 at 6:46 am
Would NOrv consider working here as OC if he thought that Allen was on a short lead?
Maybe do a Hue on Dennis.
January 11th, 2013 at 6:47 am
Charlie is right. I don’t think a vet/ established OC will be interested in working for the Raiders under DA who was a DC for ONE year before we hired him unless we promise him an opportunity to be our HC when we fire DA.
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So by retaining DA, we have essentially hamstrung ourselves for credible OC candidates. Nice.
January 11th, 2013 at 6:47 am
Hwnrdr Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 6:34 am
Corky has to be unbiased because he is a Bay Area writer…although, I never thought he was an Oakland fan anyways…
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I thought he was a Bears’ fan.
January 11th, 2013 at 6:49 am
Hwnrdr Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 6:38 am
Raider O Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 6:36 am
I hate Sapp. He is ignorant and loud even when he is doing other shows. My wife was watching a cooking show, and Sapp was a judge.
A judge on a cooking show? WOW!
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Don’t be so surprised. He needs money. He is bankrupt.
January 11th, 2013 at 6:50 am
I don’t think Mularkey would come to Oakland to be bossed around by DA either. DA is going to have to scour the college coaches or QB coach fraternity for your next OC. DA just doesn’t have any NFL cred to lure in top hires like Mularkey I fear.
January 11th, 2013 at 6:50 am
Raider O Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 6:47 am
Hwnrdr Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 6:34 am
Corky has to be unbiased because he is a Bay Area writer…although, I never thought he was an Oakland fan anyways…
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I thought he was a Bears’ fan.
Cal Bears? Maybe…as a Chicago fan, who knows?…lol
January 11th, 2013 at 6:51 am
R8drinOK Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 6:42 am
Raider O Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 6:36 am
I hate Sapp. He is ignorant and loud even when he is doing other shows. My wife was watching a cooking show, and Sapp was a judge
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Good Morning Raider bros,
I also cannot stand Sapp. I can’t believe the NFL network put this blowhard idiot (along with Irving) on their pre-game show. They add nothing in intelligent pre game analysis. I currently like Faulk and when they had Rod Woodson.
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Faulk is smart and educated. He is an Aztec.
Aztecs for life
Fear the spear!
January 11th, 2013 at 6:51 am
guest123 Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 6:50 am
I don’t think Mularkey would come to Oakland to be bossed around by DA either. DA is going to have to scour the college coaches or QB coach fraternity for your next OC. DA just doesn’t have any NFL cred to lure in top hires like Mularkey I fear.
You could be right
January 11th, 2013 at 6:52 am
Raider O Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 6:51 am
R8drinOK Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 6:42 am
Raider O Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 6:36 am
I hate Sapp. He is ignorant and loud even when he is doing other shows. My wife was watching a cooking show, and Sapp was a judge
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Good Morning Raider bros,
I also cannot stand Sapp. I can’t believe the NFL network put this blowhard idiot (along with Irving) on their pre-game show. They add nothing in intelligent pre game analysis. I currently like Faulk and when they had Rod Woodson.
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Faulk is smart and educated. He is an Aztec.
Aztecs for life
Fear the spear!
F Faulk and the Aztecs…lol
Just kidding, but when he was at SD State, I hated him because he alone would destroy Hawaii!
January 11th, 2013 at 6:54 am
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 6:46 am
Would NOrv consider working here as OC if he thought that Allen was on a short lead?
Maybe do a Hue on Dennis.
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Good idea. DA had done nothing to earn another year. Reggie fired Hue after one season and he did a lot more than DA.
Hue won more games, he was also the play-caller, and had to be a GM when Al died,
January 11th, 2013 at 6:54 am
Raider O Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 6:46 am
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 6:38 am
Raider O Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 6:36 am
I hate Sapp. He is ignorant and loud even when he is doing other shows. My wife was watching a cooking show, and Sapp was a judge.
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Hey O! I saw that they had a load of snow in Jordan!
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I didn’t hear about the snow, but I know they had floods this season..
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Jordan had a foot of snow on Wednesday.
It’s in a USAToday print story about weather in China and they also make a reference to the Middle East. There has been severe weather all over the Middle East.
January 11th, 2013 at 6:55 am
Hwnrdr,
Chicago Bears. Go to his twitter account, and you will see a G Sayers pic.
January 11th, 2013 at 6:56 am
guest123 Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 6:50 am
I don’t think Mularkey would come to Oakland to be bossed around by DA either. DA is going to have to scour the college coaches or QB coach fraternity for your next OC. DA just doesn’t have any NFL cred to lure in top hires like Mularkey I fear.
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I hope this is not the case…if so why do we have DA as HC again? What’s the benefit? All I’ve heard is continuity…
January 11th, 2013 at 6:58 am
Larry Allen should be a shoe-in for the HOF.
Another Butte College Fighting Roadrunnner!!!!
We are talking over the world.
January 11th, 2013 at 6:58 am
Jordan had a foot of snow on Wednesday.
It’s in a USAToday print story about weather in China and they also make a reference to the Middle East. There has been severe weather all over the Middle East.
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Poor bastards. Thats all they need in the ME with all that political BS.
I never heard of floods in Jordan before, and I lived there for 10 years. We had a few feet of snow in the late 80’s.
January 11th, 2013 at 7:00 am
Talking over the world? LOL…
Larry Allen…wasn’t he the one that was Super Bowl MVP that came here from Dallas?
January 11th, 2013 at 7:01 am
Interesting to see Parcells on the list. I think he feels like he made the right choice shunning the Saints job last year so he can go make his speech in Canton in July.
January 11th, 2013 at 7:02 am
That was Larry Brown
January 11th, 2013 at 7:04 am
F Faulk and the Aztecs…lol
Just kidding, but when he was at SD State, I hated him because he alone would destroy Hawaii!
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WOW!
Relax Fakers fan. It has been a long time since he was an Aztec.
January 11th, 2013 at 7:05 am
I think you guys are way under estimating DA’s standing in the coaching world. I guess it gives you something to talk about to disparage the man like that.
January 11th, 2013 at 7:06 am
Raider O Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 7:04 am
F Faulk and the Aztecs…lol
Just kidding, but when he was at SD State, I hated him because he alone would destroy Hawaii!
$$$$$$$$$$$$$
WOW!
Relax Fakers fan. It has been a long time since he was an Aztec.
Hey, when he came to the NFL I had nothing against him…lol…and hey, relax with that Faker crap
January 11th, 2013 at 7:07 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 7:02 am
That was Larry Brown
Ok, so Larry Allen was the lineman for Dallas right? Something about Thanksgiving and a fumble??? Sorry, memory has been shot for years!
January 11th, 2013 at 7:08 am
http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2012/story/_/id/8822266/nfl-mailbag-carryover-rules-impact-cap-strategy
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4.5 mill over the cap as we sit. I expect we will be moderately under (8-10 mill) pretty quickly.
Dallas, NYJ, NO, and CAR… welcome to our nightmare. LOL
January 11th, 2013 at 7:08 am
Bcz24 Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 7:05 am
I think you guys are way under estimating DA’s standing in the coaching world. I guess it gives you something to talk about to disparage the man like that.
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Didn’t they say the same things about Knapp? Well respected in the coaching world?
January 11th, 2013 at 7:10 am
hwnrdr Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 7:00 am
Talking over the world? LOL…
Larry Allen…wasn’t he the one that was Super Bowl MVP that came here from Dallas?
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You’re thinking of Larry Brown. He was gifted 2 in’ts in the SB with the ball being thrown right to him by Neil O Donnell.
Right when it was announced Al had signed him me and my friend (a Cowboys fan) joked about it. He had told me how Brown was basically being toasted all season and just got lucky that one game.
I think Al had a weird thing for acquiring guys he thought were “winners”…despite how really talented they were.
Al loved getting guys who had success at the SB like Desmond Howard and Jeff Hostetler.
January 11th, 2013 at 7:10 am
LOL Hwnrdr (The only Fakers fan that feel bad for).
January 11th, 2013 at 7:10 am
That I* feel…
January 11th, 2013 at 7:12 am
hwnrdr Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 7:07 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 7:02 am
That was Larry Brown
Ok, so Larry Allen was the lineman for Dallas right? Something about Thanksgiving and a fumble??? Sorry, memory has been shot for years!
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Leon Lett.
January 11th, 2013 at 7:12 am
bcz24 Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 7:05 am
I think you guys are way under estimating DA’s standing in the coaching world. I guess it gives you something to talk about to disparage the man like that.
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Again..we need him to show us something. Use this league wide respect to bring in some quality replacements. The clock is ticking while other teams fill the openings in their staff. I’m willing to give the guy a chance, IF we see some progress.
January 11th, 2013 at 7:13 am
DA was a DC for one year, and Denver defense improved under his watch, but it wasn’t a top 10 defense like it is now with Del Rio.
I don’t care what others think of him. I care about his production/ resume.
January 11th, 2013 at 7:14 am
Don’t all the coaches and GM have their coachspeak soundbites ready for whoever wants an opinion of a newhire? Pretty much a canned speech and they can’t really say anything but praise for them since they are part of the same fraternity. I don’t think DA’s name is trash either, but I think it’s lost a significant amount of its luster since last offseason.
Look at Chud hiring on at Cleveland and immediately you hear Norv wanted to go there. Coaches know the score and align themselves accordingly. I don’t see anyone tripping over themselves to align with DA.
January 11th, 2013 at 7:15 am
Barry Bonds didn’t get into the baseball HOF and it wasn’t even close.
You need 75% and it was 36.2%.
Bonds is a real Shakespearean character.
He was a great baseball player BEFORE he started enhancing his performance with steriods.
What a dumb azz.
January 11th, 2013 at 7:16 am
hwnrdr Says:…
Larry Allen…wasn’t he the one that was Super Bowl MVP that came here from Dallas?
Just Fire Baby Says:
That was Larry Brown
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Al liked him some heisman winners and super Bowl MVP’s. Got Desmond Howard from GB, I think. He and Brown did nothing for us. Picked up a third MVP in that general time span, don’t remember who.
January 11th, 2013 at 7:16 am
DJ Johnny Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 7:10 am
hwnrdr Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 7:00 am
Talking over the world? LOL…
Larry Allen…wasn’t he the one that was Super Bowl MVP that came here from Dallas?
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You’re thinking of Larry Brown. He was gifted 2 in’ts in the SB with the ball being thrown right to him by Neil O Donnell.
Right when it was announced Al had signed him me and my friend (a Cowboys fan) joked about it. He had told me how Brown was basically being toasted all season and just got lucky that one game.
I think Al had a weird thing for acquiring guys he thought were “winners”…despite how really talented they were.
Al loved getting guys who had success at the SB like Desmond Howard and Jeff Hostetler.
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Hostetler is only one that turned out great for us. Hoss was tough as nails, mobile and a winner. Too bad he could not stay healthy. I think our 93 team could have made a great run if we had kept Marcus and actually let him run the ball. The Bills got lucky in that playoff game as well.
January 11th, 2013 at 7:18 am
Gotta be quick on this blog or you get scooped!
January 11th, 2013 at 7:18 am
DJ Johnny Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 7:12 am
hwnrdr Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 7:07 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 7:02 am
That was Larry Brown
Ok, so Larry Allen was the lineman for Dallas right? Something about Thanksgiving and a fumble??? Sorry, memory has been shot for years!
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Leon Lett.
LOL, ok, dammit…I give up before I strike out! Leon Lett…that’s right!
January 11th, 2013 at 7:21 am
Chudzinski turned Derek Anderson into a probowl QB. Brandon Weeden has some hope especially with those Norvesque WR’s Little and Gordon. Great hire for the Browns. While we sit and watch.
January 11th, 2013 at 7:22 am
If Coach Davis was still alive I wonder who he would choose with our first round pick?
January 11th, 2013 at 7:24 am
Raider O Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 6:44 am
Charlie is right. I don’t think a vet/ established OC will be interested in working for the Raiders under DA who was a DC for ONE year before we hired him unless we promise him an opportunity to be our HC when we fire DA.
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That’s true but there is one exception to that and he’s just feet away from Allen a lot of the time.
January 11th, 2013 at 7:29 am
Hwndr,
You shouldn’t be expected to know Cowboys stuff.
January 11th, 2013 at 7:30 am
I was hoping to stop in here and read DA has resigned… What’s with the hold up on hiring coaches? Whose coaching staff do you guys think we’re gonna poach from? Texans, packers or donkeys??
January 11th, 2013 at 7:31 am
After this year, a corner. GUARANTEED!
January 11th, 2013 at 7:32 am
Packers practice squad coaching staff
January 11th, 2013 at 7:32 am
oooops for got to paste this:
Angry Villager with Pitchfork Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 7:22 am
If Coach Davis was still alive I wonder who he would choose with our first round pick?
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After this year, a corner. GUARANTEED!
January 11th, 2013 at 7:34 am
Larry Allen was a guard for the cowboys that paved the way for Emmitt most of the time.
January 11th, 2013 at 7:34 am
DJ Johnny Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 7:29 am
Hwndr,
You shouldn’t be expected to know Cowboys stuff.
True!
January 11th, 2013 at 7:34 am
Carl Weathers Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 7:31 am
After this year, a corner. GUARANTEED!
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LOL, yeah probably half of our draft would be CB’s! Al loved his fast corners. I think we should focus on the OL and DL.
January 11th, 2013 at 7:37 am
The lakers have missed the playoffs TWICE in my lifetime.
What is going on?
January 11th, 2013 at 7:40 am
If you heard we have one of the most talented QB’s in the league would that make u believe more in the Raiders of 2013?
All these analysts talking up the Bears job and they ALWAYS point to the Bears having this wonderful QB as one of the big lures for a good coach to come there.
Again this morning, Ed Werder (ESPN) said how Cutler is “one of the most talented QB’s in the league”.
Carson Palmer’s stats are much better than Cutler’s career wise and much better even last year with Cutler having a true #1 in Brandon Marshall and Forte and Michael Bush in the running game.
What did Palmer have again? Did he have a #1? Does DMAC’S 3.3 ypc count as a “running game”?
Just thought you guys would like to know that according to the “experts” our QB is better..any way u slice it…than “one of the most talented QB’s in the league”.
January 11th, 2013 at 7:41 am
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 7:15 am
Barry Bonds didn’t get into the baseball HOF and it wasn’t even close.
You need 75% and it was 36.2%.
Bonds is a real Shakespearean character.
He was a great baseball player BEFORE he started enhancing his performance with steriods.
What a dumb azz.
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I distinctly remember him making snide comments about Sosa and McGuire and how he could do what they were doing if he wanted to…..couple of years later he is breaking records. Simple jealousy drove him to it.
January 11th, 2013 at 7:42 am
Call some coaches fatty!
And give us a new thread cork.. phones dont work after 1500 posts
January 11th, 2013 at 7:45 am
You know what’s wrong Dakota.. all the money and talent is at center.. and mike d can only coach guards…
January 11th, 2013 at 7:47 am
LOL, yeah probably half of our draft would be CB’s! Al loved his fast corners. I think we should focus on the OL and DL.
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Al focused plenty on the lines. His problems were LB’s and Saftey’s. For some reasone, he loved to make DE’s into LB’s.
January 11th, 2013 at 7:47 am
Bcz24 Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 7:05 am
I think you guys are way under estimating DA’s standing in the coaching world. I guess it gives you something to talk about to disparage the man like that.
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Sure he is a respected assistant coach. As a hc he has earned zero respect. If they respect him as a hc already, then they are ignoring his awful year as hc and basing the respect off of nothing but a liking for the guy as a person.
January 11th, 2013 at 7:50 am
1401. Yeah Norv Turner is really respected in the coaching world, doesn’t make him a good coach.
January 11th, 2013 at 7:50 am
good morning all…it looks like chicago will get trestman, sd is interviewing lovie smith and norvell will go to cleveland….everyone one of those teams upgraded significantly…’meanwhile mumbles is at the ihop…..#incompetent
January 11th, 2013 at 7:51 am
Both Bonds and Clemons were around 36% of the voting. Clemons was a decent pitcher, but his stats took off in his mid 30’s. Seven Cy Youngs and most of them were on the juice. I’d not let him in the hall either.
What’s sad is that crime dog Fred McGriff had a series of mid 30’s to low 40’s HR years, finished with just under 500 HR’s and only got 20% of the vote. He was the one CLEAN guy of that whole dirty steroid era. No doubt if he taken, he’d have been right up there with Bonds and Sosa, and you know those guys are eventually going to get in. McGriff probably won’t sniff the hall. That’s just not right.
January 11th, 2013 at 7:52 am
maybe we already have our men with saunders
January 11th, 2013 at 7:53 am
good morning all…it looks like chicago will get trestman, sd is interviewing lovie smith and norvell will go to cleveland….everyone one of those teams upgraded significantly…’meanwhile mumbles is at the ihop…..#incompetent
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Dennis Allen attracting top potential OC hires?
:crickets:
January 11th, 2013 at 7:53 am
I’m not confident in Al Saunders. He should’ve been the last years pick over Knapp, but i don’t think he’s the answer, especially not long term.
January 11th, 2013 at 7:54 am
Marks Hair Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 7:45 am
You know what’s wrong Dakota.. all the money and talent is at center.. and mike d can only coach guards…
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Yep.
Jim buss: hey Mitch, let’s hire dantoni!
Mitch: you know I don’t think he matches our personnel, maybe we should hire Phil, he will run the offense through our good post players instead of our 38 year old pg.
Jim buss: Phil is fraking my sister and the fans and my dad lOve him more than they love me! You like your job?
Mitch: d’antoni it is!
January 11th, 2013 at 7:55 am
i think drafting collin klein from k state in the 6th round would be a good move for the raiders
January 11th, 2013 at 7:55 am
LOL, Dakota!
January 11th, 2013 at 7:56 am
oh and good morning all
January 11th, 2013 at 7:59 am
Theres no reason not to start interviewing.. like since monday.. come on fatman
January 11th, 2013 at 8:00 am
I think we still have a shot at norv, if Reggie and da are even interested that is (they should be but I have little faith in them right now). I mean norv has been in Cali for a long time now. Why go to Cleveland when you could stay in Cali?
January 11th, 2013 at 8:02 am
Why go to Cleveland when you could stay in Cali?
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to work with competent HC’s who are on the rise.
January 11th, 2013 at 8:02 am
1413.Dakota Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 8:00 am
I think we still have a shot at norv, if Reggie and da are even interested that is (they should be but I have little faith in them right now). I mean norv has been in Cali for a long time now. Why go to Cleveland when you could stay in Cali?
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Norve hasn’t done much for an offense in a long time. He’s still living off his Dallas fame. I don’t want Norv back. Would rather gamble on new blood then Norv.
January 11th, 2013 at 8:02 am
to me slolando is a bigger dissapointment than the jawalrus expierment
January 11th, 2013 at 8:04 am
1414.guest123 Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 8:02 am
Why go to Cleveland when you could stay in Cali?
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to work with competent HC’s who are on the rise.
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Who’s the HC in cleveland?
January 11th, 2013 at 8:04 am
guest123 Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 7:21 am
Chudzinski turned Derek Anderson into a probowl QB. Brandon Weeden has some hope especially with those Norvesque WR’s Little and Gordon. Great hire for the Browns. While we sit and watch.
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Who says we did nothing? Maybe DA DID approach Norv, and it was like that akward scene in High School; where the Nerd asks out the hot cheer Leader…….
DA: Um, excuse me Mr. Turner…(Clears throat). I was wondering if Umm…Well, I just thought…..Uhhh, if you wanted to maybe, I dunno……You know I was thinking…….Only if you want to…..Just Uhhhh….OK, you wanna come coach with Me?…..
Norv: (Surpressing Giggles and lets out a tiny snicker…then composes himself) He pats DA on the head softly and says “You’re Cute”….Then walks away.
DA: So does that Mean……..
Norv: (While walking away)…”Not a chance”
DA: proceeds to kick rocks
January 11th, 2013 at 8:04 am
to me slolando is a bigger dissapointment than the jawalrus expierment
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how so?
January 11th, 2013 at 8:05 am
Guest123 Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 8:02 am
Why go to Cleveland when you could stay in Cali?
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to work with competent HC’s who are on the rise.
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Or maybe tax issues?
Lol
January 11th, 2013 at 8:05 am
1416.gangosix Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 8:02 am
to me slolando is a bigger dissapointment than the jawalrus expierment
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Remember how anti Jamarcus we thought he was when instead of holding out like Russell, he asked for the playbook as soon as he was drafted?
January 11th, 2013 at 8:05 am
Who’s the HC in cleveland?
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Rob Cudzinski is the HC, former Carolina OC just hired on. Is taking Norv with him to be his OC.
January 11th, 2013 at 8:07 am
The_Judge37 Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 8:04 am
1414.guest123 Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 8:02 am
Why go to Cleveland when you could stay in Cali?
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to work with competent HC’s who are on the rise.
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Who’s the HC in cleveland?
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Based on the guys name I think they hired Poland’s national soccer coach.
January 11th, 2013 at 8:07 am
Or maybe tax issues?
Lol
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Speaking of taxes, your Gov Jerry B is talking up having no state deficit for the first time in a decade. That’s what happens when you slash the budget to pieces and offer no services. Court cases are stacked up and courthouses are empty but at least the budget is balanced!
January 11th, 2013 at 8:08 am
You guys just break me up. Here is a typical post from some of you: OK, after DA gets fired, Bill Cowher and David Shaw along with their handpicked coaching staffs will have a machete and sword battle royale to the death right before the Super Bowl on live TV for the right to come here and coach the Raiders.
The reality: and I keep asking this, why would anyone come here? What do we have here to entice an excellent OC candidate to come here and risk their reputations? Stable ownership? Stable Org? Stellar Oline? Star studded WR corp? HOF Q? McFadden? You guys think Sean Payton is going to take a pay cut, a career cut, just to come here be the OC just because Terrell Pryor is here? Is that what you guys are thinking?
January 11th, 2013 at 8:09 am
DA: Um, excuse me Mr. Turner…(Clears throat). I was wondering if Umm…Well, I just thought…..Uhhh, if you wanted to maybe, I dunno……You know I was thinking…….Only if you want to…..Just Uhhhh….OK, you wanna come coach with Me?…..
Norv: (Surpressing Giggles and lets out a tiny snicker…then composes himself) He pats DA on the head softly and says “You’re Cute”….Then walks away.
DA: So does that Mean……..
Norv: (While walking away)…”Not a chance”
DA: proceeds to kick rocks
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lol
I could see this as Dennis’s offseason in a nutshell. rinse/repeat
January 11th, 2013 at 8:10 am
the trouble with the law,(i think is only beginning).i feel fooled,this guy was supposed to be a sure thing,we all tought it was a sure thing,the stupid,embarassing things he’s done,the black eye he gave the raiders to name a few
January 11th, 2013 at 8:13 am
1427.gangosix Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 8:10 am
the trouble with the law,(i think is only beginning).i feel fooled,this guy was supposed to be a sure thing,we all tought it was a sure thing,the stupid,embarassing things he’s done,the black eye he gave the raiders to name a few
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Well Jruss also had that whole drug raid thing at his house for Codine.
And to McClain’s credit, at least he commited Assault with a Firearm in a state where its only a misdemeanor.
January 11th, 2013 at 8:14 am
Gangosix Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 8:02 am
to me slolando is a bigger dissapointment than the jawalrus expierment
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Things are different now we have Bible bashers and shrinks in the building
January 11th, 2013 at 8:14 am
1399.Marks hair Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 7:45 am
You know what’s wrong Dakota.. all the money and talent is at center.. and mike d can only coach guards…
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Wonder if the Knicks would go for an Amare for Gasol trade straight up. Melo and Amare dont mesh.
January 11th, 2013 at 8:16 am
Amare for gasol? Not a chance the lakers would do that.
January 11th, 2013 at 8:16 am
The reality: and I keep asking this, why would anyone come here? What do we have here to entice an excellent OC candidate to come here and risk their reputations? Stable ownership? Stable Org? Stellar Oline? Star studded WR corp? HOF Q? McFadden? You guys think Sean Payton is going to take a pay cut, a career cut, just to come here be the OC just because Terrell Pryor is here? Is that what you guys are thinking?
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So what you are really saying is: (Expletive Y’all)
January 11th, 2013 at 8:19 am
This blog sucks. If you’re not gonna post my comment, at least give me a reason why! I didn’t curse or slam DA that bad.
January 11th, 2013 at 8:20 am
Carl Weathers Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 8:19 am
This blog sucks. If you’re not gonna post my comment, at least give me a reason why! I didn’t curse or slam DA that bad
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Because you’re ghostin’ us. Do it again, i’ll bleed you, real quiet, leave ya here.
January 11th, 2013 at 8:21 am
i know jamarcus had trouble with the law too,but it seemed to fit(it wasnt that surprising) but slolando seemed like the real deal (until the photo,you know which one)
January 11th, 2013 at 8:21 am
1431.Dakota Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 8:16 am
Amare for gasol? Not a chance the lakers would do that.
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I don’t think the Knicks would do it. Amare would be a better fit than Gasol, Kupchak should want to do it.
January 11th, 2013 at 8:25 am
JR77 Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 8:21 am
1431.Dakota Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 8:16 am
Amare for gasol? Not a chance the lakers would do that.
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I don’t think the Knicks would do it. Amare would be a better fit than Gasol, Kupchak should want to do it.
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Amare is a shell of his former self. Gasol is injured right now, but traditionally he plays….amare has bad legs and misses big chunks of seasons.
The lakers just need to play to gasols strengths, instead of having him jack up threes.
January 11th, 2013 at 8:26 am
People on this blog should not be surprised at getting a relative unknown to our OC position.
Our situation is what required us to take two inexperienced (but very widely respected in NFL circles)professionals in Reggie and DA in the first place.
As I have said we are now in year 2 of a 3-5 year project. Still over the cap in 2013 without a full complement of picks till 2014.
“Meanwhile, Oakland is one of 10 teams currently over the salary cap. Oakland is $4.5 million over the cap for 2013. It was severely over the cap last season. This year, the Raiders, who will have to address punter Shane Lechler, tight end Brandon Myers and linebacker Philip Wheeler in free agency, will still have to make a lot of tough decisions and will have to tweak some contracts again. But they should be able to do a little more than they did last year.”
“Fans who pined for the Jon Gruden fantasy to materialize should prepare for a more simple reality: McKenzie and Allen rolling up their sleeves and embarking on year two.
In some ways, the second year will be a lot like the first — lots of changes to the roster.
“I know we have some guys that are going to be the core of what we want and the type of players we want,” Allen said. “I also know we’ve got some work to do to get more of those types of players.”
Those players will be found within a budget, because McKenzie does not believe in running up huge salary cap overages as Al Davis did, and the Raiders are believed to be close to the projected $121 million figure for 2013.
McKenzie told reporters Nov. 30 the Raiders would be in position “to do some things” but lamented he didn’t see being able to bring aboard a big-ticket free agent in the way the Packers did with Charles Woodson when he was Director of Operations in Green Bay.
That means that players with salaries that appear to exceed their production are candidates to be traded or released. McKenzie is currently without second- and fifth-round draft picks.
With that in mind, don’t be surprised if McKenzie deals the No. 3 overall pick to pick up additional ones.
Middle linebacker Rolando McClain, scheduled to make $4 million, will be released when it makes the most sense with regard to the salary cap.
Others whose financial commitments could be an issue include wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey ($7,721,000 salary) and defensive tackle Tommy Kelly ($6.5 million salary, with potential bonuses up to $9.4 million).”
“The Raiders are making changes to their offensive staff. It may take a couple of years to dig themselves out of a terrible cap situation that this regime inherited.”
“The 2012 roster purge was necessary to even lineup this year but no one should have fooled themselves into thinking it would mean immediate success. Not sure things will be any better next year.”
January 11th, 2013 at 8:26 am
1437.Dakota Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 8:25 am
JR77 Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 8:21 am
1431.Dakota Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 8:16 am
Amare for gasol? Not a chance the lakers would do that.
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I don’t think the Knicks would do it. Amare would be a better fit than Gasol, Kupchak should want to do it.
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Amare is a shell of his former self. Gasol is injured right now, but traditionally he plays….amare has bad legs and misses big chunks of seasons.
The lakers just need to play to gasols strengths, instead of having him jack up threes.
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The coach is clueless about how to use anybody other than Nash.
January 11th, 2013 at 8:27 am
Amare is on mike d’s shìt list right now. Comments were made.. plus amares having soreness again after playing only 28 mins the other nite. He might be a bench guy this yr.
January 11th, 2013 at 8:28 am
Take it easy Mack!
January 11th, 2013 at 8:28 am
Don’t worry, the lakers will somehow trade gasol for kevin love this offseason and he will be a perfect fit to play in this offense and along side Howard.
January 11th, 2013 at 8:29 am
Jags new GM is not interested in Tebow.
Tebow needs to play HB.
January 11th, 2013 at 8:31 am
yes 1429 thats why i think the raiders would do right by picking collin klein in the 6th round,he fits
January 11th, 2013 at 8:32 am
I’m gona have me sum fun
January 11th, 2013 at 8:34 am
well….whhoppity dooo (in my adam sandler voice) now that DA has spoken i feel better…
January 11th, 2013 at 8:34 am
Tebow’s career is likely over. Think about it. Who would want him even as a backup QB?
January 11th, 2013 at 8:35 am
Let’s play the what if game?.
I’m not saying this would have happened, it’s just a somewhat educated guess.
Say we keep Hue Jackson.
- We keep the same Offensive system, but with a full off-season and training camp together, Carson Palmer, Darren McFadden, Denarius Moore, DHB and Marcel Reece produce career seasons.
The OL sprungs another top-shelf rushing attack and above average pass-protection, the Offense finishes as a top 10 unit in yards and PPG.
- Hue hires Dennis Thurman as DC, the guy the Jets blocked us from interviewing in 2011 but whose contract expired after that season, he resigned with the Jets but did not get promoted from his DB Coach job, as a free-agent he would habe been able to ditch the Jets and make the jump to DC with his old friend in Oakland.
The Defense gets just a little better, no huge turnaround but a bit better than DA’s franchise worst and certainly better than Chuck’s, but still a major weakness, say a bottom 10 unit.
- We retain ST’s Coach John Fassel and field a competitve unit there.
Overall, as I said we bring an explosive Offense a still leaky Defense and decent ST’s play.
Where would that lead us?.
I think we come out ready to play in week 1 and our offensive firepower is enough to take down the Chargers at home, as well as Cleveland, Carolina and the 2nd San Diego game.
That’s 4 more wins to put us at 8, then I’d say we would have a good shot to outduel New Orleans and/or Tampa Bay at home, as well as Cincy on the road.
In the end, we could have finished with at least 8 wins and maybe 9 or 10 while fighting the Bengals for that final playoff spot and a winnable match-up at Houston.
Granted, we have no idea how things would have turned out, but I don’t think that scenario is far-fetched at all.
Instead, we got the 2012 Raiders, one of the least competitve teams in franchsie history.
What do you guys think?.
January 11th, 2013 at 8:35 am
Tebow needs to go to the arena league.
January 11th, 2013 at 8:36 am
1447.guest123 Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 8:34 am
Tebow’s career is likely over. Think about it. Who would want him even as a backup QB?
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He could become the League’s most dangerous place holder/punt protector in NFL history.
January 11th, 2013 at 8:36 am
Well this sucks. It feels like we are stuck in the pits and the pit crew is fighting with each other ove which tires to put on, the gasoline guys have the nozzle stuck in the pump and the windshield wiper guys sprayed too much cleaner and looking for rags.
Meanwhile other pit crews are off in record time and other cars are out on the track lapping us.
January 11th, 2013 at 8:37 am
Lakers need a stretch 4 and a good defender on the wing. The small lineups suck.. and our big lineup doesnt work in dantonis syatem..
Kobe is not a 3
Rons not a 4
Gasols not a 4. not a stretch 4 anyway..
Morris is not a 2.. we have 4 point grds and not one can defend..
Id trade gas for 2 guys b4 next weeks games.
January 11th, 2013 at 8:38 am
* Sorry for the typos.
January 11th, 2013 at 8:39 am
Oh and spare the attacks, if you don’t think that scenario was possible, just explain why.
January 11th, 2013 at 8:39 am
Teblow better brush up on his knowledge of insurance….or real estate.
January 11th, 2013 at 8:39 am
1451.guest123 Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 8:36 am
Well this sucks. It feels like we are stuck in the pits and the pit crew is fighting with each other ove which tires to put on, the gasoline guys have the nozzle stuck in the pump and the windshield wiper guys sprayed too much cleaner and looking for rags.
Meanwhile other pit crews are off in record time and other cars are out on the track lapping us.
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And Reggie, our Driver, is off getting a chicken sandwich.
January 11th, 2013 at 8:41 am
Bob Marley Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 8:35 am
Let’s play the what if game?.
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Sounds good, but it’s way too early to play that game. Plus the “What IF” game is rarely fun.
January 11th, 2013 at 8:44 am
1442.Dakota Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 8:28 am
Don’t worry, the lakers will somehow trade gasol for kevin love this offseason and he will be a perfect fit to play in this offense and along side Howard.
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At this point it doesn’t look good for Howard’s chances of returning unless they fire Mike (No D)Antoni.
January 11th, 2013 at 8:44 am
guest123 Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 7:32 am
Packers practice squad coaching staff
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LMAO Thats what I was thinking!
January 11th, 2013 at 8:45 am
Bob Marley,
I like your well thought out What if game. But it’s like other “what-if’s” in life. Just a lesson in humiliation and self doubt.
January 11th, 2013 at 8:47 am
Norv Turner to join Browns staff as offensive coordinator
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/11/norv-turner-to-join-browns-staff-as-offensive-coordinator/
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Of course NOBOBY hires OC’s this time of year. So we’ve been told by expert bloggers.
January 11th, 2013 at 8:48 am
Bob, I was a big hue Jackson fan. I believe he was responsible not only for the 2011 8-8 season but also for the 2010 8-8 season, so this is not coming from a place of dislike for the guy…..I think hue would have been so angry and caught up in a power struggle with Reggie that the 2012 team would have struggled.
I like your senario, but I think it could have been accomplished by keeping the Special teams staff and oc with Saunders running the show. I think hue’s ego exploded after al died and he was targeting a gm/hc role and would have been bitter about it and it would have poisoned the team IMO.
January 11th, 2013 at 8:48 am
Guest123.
True, I was bored.
January 11th, 2013 at 8:49 am
True, I was bored.
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admirable though. I wish I had your imagination when I get bored. good stuff!
January 11th, 2013 at 8:49 am
1448,
Bob,
Not far fetched at all.
The fact that scenario could have easily occured shows that we have something NOW that can be worked with if done correctly.
DMAC is still on the team. We have an o-line good enough to get the job done, and a defense that looked good the last quarter of the season.
I think Knapp was the main disaster of the season and a good OC that simply plays to our strengths will do wonders.
We need a true #1 receiver…and a couple of ones who can catch the ball and a pass rusher to help the d even more and i am optimistic for better things in 2013.
I realize i’m definitely in the minority.
January 11th, 2013 at 8:50 am
13 teams returned a kickoff for a td this yr. 7 of those teams made the playoffs. We need to upgrade the sp teams big time.
January 11th, 2013 at 8:50 am
Manti Te’o looks like a first-round pick, but Alabama game will hurt
Alabama dominated Notre Dame in Monday night’s college football national championship game, and Alabama’s offense was particularly successful going directly at what was supposed to be the strength of Notre Dame’s defense: The Crimson Tide ran for 265 yards, often going right up the middle at linebacker Manti Te’o, who was widely regarded as the best defensive player in college football in 2012. So will that game affect Te’o’s draft stock?
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/11/manti-teo-looks-like-a-first-round-pick-but-alabama-game-will-hurt/
January 11th, 2013 at 8:51 am
JR77 Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 8:44 am
1442.Dakota Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 8:28 am
Don’t worry, the lakers will somehow trade gasol for kevin love this offseason and he will be a perfect fit to play in this offense and along side Howard.
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At this point it doesn’t look good for Howard’s chances of returning unless they fire Mike (No D)Antoni.
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Lmao…..players do not leave the lakers unless the lakers want them to leave. Nj has no cap space. Dallas is a mess. He makes much more $$ staying with the lakers. He will be here if the lakers want him.
January 11th, 2013 at 8:54 am
1468.Dakota Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 8:51 am
JR77 Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 8:44 am
1442.Dakota Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 8:28 am
Don’t worry, the lakers will somehow trade gasol for kevin love this offseason and he will be a perfect fit to play in this offense and along side Howard.
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At this point it doesn’t look good for Howard’s chances of returning unless they fire Mike (No D)Antoni.
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Lmao…..players do not leave the lakers unless the lakers want them to leave. Nj has no cap space. Dallas is a mess. He makes much more $$ staying with the lakers. He will be here if the lakers want him.
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NJ? They have an owner worth 7 billion, Howard doesn’t like playing with Kobe. If the losing continues, things will boil over to the point where one of them will have to go.
January 11th, 2013 at 8:54 am
Bob Marley
I’d like to see a smash-mouth OC hired, you?
January 11th, 2013 at 8:56 am
It’s possible Norv wasn’t even on the Raiders radar, so Norv taking the job at Cleveland is not neccessarily a lsight of the Raiders.
In fact I doubt Raiders even considered him.
January 11th, 2013 at 8:56 am
Marty Mornhinweg has to be target #1 with Norval likely headed to Cleveland.
January 11th, 2013 at 8:57 am
JR77 Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 8:54 am
1468.Dakota Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 8:51 am
JR77 Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 8:44 am
1442.Dakota Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 8:28 am
Don’t worry, the lakers will somehow trade gasol for kevin love this offseason and he will be a perfect fit to play in this offense and along side Howard.
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At this point it doesn’t look good for Howard’s chances of returning unless they fire Mike (No D)Antoni.
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Lmao…..players do not leave the lakers unless the lakers want them to leave. Nj has no cap space. Dallas is a mess. He makes much more $$ staying with the lakers. He will be here if the lakers want him.
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NJ? They have an owner worth 7 billion, Howard doesn’t like playing with Kobe. If the losing continues, things will boil over to the point where one of them will have to go.
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Do you need the definition of a salary cap?
And Kobe is only playing another year or two.
January 11th, 2013 at 8:57 am
LOL at the thought that we asked Norvell to come here and HE said no.
LMFAO!!!
No chance he ran right over to Mark and MARK was the one who LOL’d.
U peoples
January 11th, 2013 at 8:58 am
It’s possible Norv wasn’t even on the Raiders radar, so Norv taking the job at Cleveland is not neccessarily a lsight of the Raiders.
In fact I doubt Raiders even considered him.
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More like the Raiders aren’t a fit for Norv. He likes gun armed QB’s with tall physical wideouts to go downfield with. We got a collection of smurf WR’s and one big guy with stone hands.
January 11th, 2013 at 8:59 am
1466.Marks hair Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 8:50 am
13 teams returned a kickoff for a td this yr. 7 of those teams made the playoffs. We need to upgrade the sp teams big time.
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What was it, like 4 of those teams we against us?
While it’s fair to assume bad coaching on SP, lack of draft picks and depth hurt SP teams most. We should be better if Ford can stay healthy, but he needs to be on punt returns.
January 11th, 2013 at 8:59 am
The NBA luxury tax is going to increase and teams over it like the Lakers are going to get ripped.
Thats why they arent making any moves, and have been rumored to trade Gasol for 2 years.. His contract is HUGE.
January 11th, 2013 at 9:00 am
Guest123 Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 8:58 am
It’s possible Norv wasn’t even on the Raiders radar, so Norv taking the job at Cleveland is not neccessarily a lsight of the Raiders.
In fact I doubt Raiders even considered him.
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More like the Raiders aren’t a fit for Norv. He likes gun armed QB’s with tall physical wideouts to go downfield with. We got a collection of smurf WR’s and one big guy with stone hands.
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And Cleveland has that?
January 11th, 2013 at 9:00 am
LMFAO at all the Laker haters FINALLY being able to comment.
I just have one question.
Where the phucc do you think Hollywood Howard is going.
No, East. He is not going to the over the salary cap Bulls, Net, or Knicks and playing for the mid level, LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.
January 11th, 2013 at 9:01 am
The_Judge37 Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 8:59 am
1466.Marks hair Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 8:50 am
13 teams returned a kickoff for a td this yr. 7 of those teams made the playoffs. We need to upgrade the sp teams big time.
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What was it, like 4 of those teams we against us?
While it’s fair to assume bad coaching on SP, lack of draft picks and depth hurt SP teams most. We should be better if Ford can stay healthy, but he needs to be on punt returns.
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Can Ford return punts?
Would be great if he can for sure..
January 11th, 2013 at 9:01 am
Howard is going to team up with the Beard in Houston.
January 11th, 2013 at 9:02 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
Happy Friday to all!
Que onda Green Party?!
January 11th, 2013 at 9:03 am
Who knows? But we know no one else on the roster can return em so let’s see what Ford’s got.
January 11th, 2013 at 9:03 am
KoolKell Says:
Bob Marley
I’d like to see a smash-mouth OC hired, you?
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You’ve been asking this for days,KK. Why? What’s your point? Spit it out.
January 11th, 2013 at 9:03 am
Howard, Jordan Hill, and Earl Clark will be the front court shortly, Laker fans.
Gasoft will be traded for a guard. Minny is not trading Kevin Love, Dakota. Might be Deuces old trade for Williams and a draft pick.
I’m hoping we can snag Parsons from Houston for Gasoft.
January 11th, 2013 at 9:04 am
Dakota Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 9:00 am
Guest123 Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 8:58 am
It’s possible Norv wasn’t even on the Raiders radar, so Norv taking the job at Cleveland is not neccessarily a lsight of the Raiders.
In fact I doubt Raiders even considered him.
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More like the Raiders aren’t a fit for Norv. He likes gun armed QB’s with tall physical wideouts to go downfield with. We got a collection of smurf WR’s and one big guy with stone hands.
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And Cleveland has that?
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How can you say thats what Norv has to have just because thats what the Chargers had?..
He didnt have all those things in any other stop..
January 11th, 2013 at 9:04 am
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 9:03 am
KoolKell Says:
Bob Marley
I’d like to see a smash-mouth OC hired, you?
=======================================================
You’ve been asking this for days,KK. Why? What’s your point? Spit it out.
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lol
true
January 11th, 2013 at 9:06 am
J Hill Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 9:03 am
Howard, Jordan Hill, and Earl Clark will be the front court shortly, Laker fans.
Gasoft will be traded for a guard. Minny is not trading Kevin Love, Dakota. Might be Deuces old trade for Williams and a draft pick.
I’m hoping we can snag Parsons from Houston for Gasoft.
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Man I wanted Parsons so bad this off-season… and he’s an Orlando native… would have been perfect..
[no im not from florida]
January 11th, 2013 at 9:06 am
Dakota,
Are you ready to admit the Mike Brown firing was ridiculous?
If Phil Jackson is the only person who can coach this team, then the team SUCKS, bruh!
Nash and D Antonio????????
I’m ready to admit you were right about Buss Jr. What a phuccing DUMMY!
January 11th, 2013 at 9:06 am
DMAC Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 9:02 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
Happy Friday to all!
Que onda Green Party?!
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Well then……
Fk u guys 2 on this cold, chilly, morning!
January 11th, 2013 at 9:07 am
Kevin love wants out of minny. He will be a laker.
January 11th, 2013 at 9:07 am
Mornin’, DMAC. Nobody responded to my morning greeting and I got all butt hurt, but I didn’t go all DMAC on ‘em.
January 11th, 2013 at 9:08 am
1473.Dakota Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 8:57 am
JR77 Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 8:54 am
1468.Dakota Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 8:51 am
JR77 Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 8:44 am
1442.Dakota Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 8:28 am
Don’t worry, the lakers will somehow trade gasol for kevin love this offseason and he will be a perfect fit to play in this offense and along side Howard.
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At this point it doesn’t look good for Howard’s chances of returning unless they fire Mike (No D)Antoni.
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Lmao…..players do not leave the lakers unless the lakers want them to leave. Nj has no cap space. Dallas is a mess. He makes much more $$ staying with the lakers. He will be here if the lakers want him.
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NJ? They have an owner worth 7 billion, Howard doesn’t like playing with Kobe. If the losing continues, things will boil over to the point where one of them will have to go.
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Do you need the definition of a salary cap?
And Kobe is only playing another year or two.
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Do you know the definition of restructuring salaries?
There are at least 4 or 5 other options for Howard…maybe even the Clippers.
January 11th, 2013 at 9:08 am
I want the Raiders to play Raider football, which is smash-mouth, not pussie footing football
January 11th, 2013 at 9:08 am
Dakota Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 9:07 am
Kevin love wants out of minny. He will be a laker.
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Keep dreaming buddy
Fakers suck!
January 11th, 2013 at 9:08 am
I was tempted, tho’.
January 11th, 2013 at 9:08 am
Rumors are Monte Kiffen is going to replace Rob Ryan as DC in Dallas
January 11th, 2013 at 9:09 am
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 9:07 am
Mornin’, DMAC. Nobody responded to my morning greeting and I got all butt hurt, but I didn’t go all DMAC on ‘em.
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Stop being so nice
lol
January 11th, 2013 at 9:09 am
If im the Lakers I call Minnesota and offer:
Pau Gasol
Jordan Hill
Devin Ebanks
Chris Duhon
for
Nikola Pekovic
Derrick Williams
JJ Barea
January 11th, 2013 at 9:10 am
KoolKell Says:
I want the Raiders to play Raider football, which is smash-mouth, not pussie footing football
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OK then. I agree.
January 11th, 2013 at 9:10 am
OC – Murlarkey
OL – Wylie
LB – Ryan
SP – Who fk’n knows!
January 11th, 2013 at 9:11 am
You cant re-structure contracts in the NBA.
Sorry.
January 11th, 2013 at 9:12 am
DMAC Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 9:08 am
Dakota Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 9:07 am
Kevin love wants out of minny. He will be a laker.
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Keep dreaming buddy
Fakers suck!
You know, I do root for the W’s to do good, but please do not become SF Niner fans…seriously! Warriors are doing good, but having proven anything yet!
January 11th, 2013 at 9:12 am
star=instantly our best defensive player, every down player, can’t be blocked by one guy, meanstreak, build around him
January 11th, 2013 at 9:12 am
Do you know the definition of restructuring salaries?
There are at least 4 or 5 other options for Howard…maybe even the Clippers.
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Lol not in the NBA. And no the clippers are not an option. You have no clue about the NBA salary cap and contracts do you?
January 11th, 2013 at 9:12 am
DMAC Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 9:10 am
OC – Murlarkey
OL – Wylie
LB – Ryan
SP – Who fk’n knows!
May be possible…but isn’t Wylie with the Rams?
January 11th, 2013 at 9:13 am
OC – Marty Mornhinweg
OL – Juan Castillo
LB – Billy Davis
January 11th, 2013 at 9:13 am
Wassup Hwnrdr
He is?
January 11th, 2013 at 9:14 am
inonewordraider Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 9:12 am
star=instantly our best defensive player, every down player, can’t be blocked by one guy, meanstreak, build around him
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All the reasons he probably wont be there at 3..
January 11th, 2013 at 9:14 am
No Wylie isnt with the Rams.
January 11th, 2013 at 9:15 am
lol…at the gb practice squad offensive coordinator!
January 11th, 2013 at 9:16 am
Pat Hill’s name has been out there for a while.
Do you really think a hiring from a staff still in the playoffs would be announced by now???
Why are some of you in such a hurry to pick up one of the LOSERS who just got FIRED for incompetence like Norvell phuccing Turner???? Didn’t we constantly bash that guy for running the Chargers into the ground?
I’ll take someone from ATL’s vertical offensive staff in a minute.
Or GBs potent offensive scheme.
REEEEELAXXXXX, would ya?
January 11th, 2013 at 9:17 am
NBA also has guaranteed Contracts. Which is why Luke Walton was such a long time Laker.
January 11th, 2013 at 9:17 am
4-3
LDE – Sho-not-so-nasty anymore
DTs – Bryant, Houston
RDE – D. Moore
LBs – Burris, Maulaga, Wheeler
Bring back Thomas Howard to compete for a spot.
January 11th, 2013 at 9:17 am
If they are on a team right now, we arent getting them.
Thats why.
No team is gonna let a good coach who is under contract just leave.
January 11th, 2013 at 9:18 am
J Hill Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 9:06 am
Dakota,
Are you ready to admit the Mike Brown firing was ridiculous?
If Phil Jackson is the only person who can coach this team, then the team SUCKS, bruh!
Nash and D Antonio????????
I’m ready to admit you were right about Buss Jr. What a phuccing DUMMY!
————
Mile brown was 1-12 with this team. He was clueless last season. He was ran out of Cleveland. Firing mike brown was not the problem. Hiring a coach with a gimmick offense that plays away from our strengths and who has no clue about defense was the issue.
Not hiring Phil was a major mistake. Or Jerry Sloan.
He’ll, Bernie was clearly a better coach than mike brown for this team. And better than mike d too.
January 11th, 2013 at 9:18 am
Do you know the definition of restructuring salaries?
There are at least 4 or 5 other options for Howard…maybe even the Clippers.
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Restructuring????
In the NBA???
Nope, never heard of it.
January 11th, 2013 at 9:18 am
I guess not…lol…
However, if you were shown he door after 1 year and your assistant quit months later…would you come back? I wold think an apology and a “I know, I’m a retard” from DA would probably still not work…
and DAV…Mornhinwig? Seriously???
January 11th, 2013 at 9:18 am
DMAC Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 9:17 am
4-3
LDE – Sho-not-so-nasty anymore
DTs – Bryant, Houston
RDE – D. Moore
LBs – Burris, Maulaga, Wheeler
Bring back Thomas Howard to compete for a spot.
—-
Maualuga?!
*Vomit*
January 11th, 2013 at 9:19 am
1514.DMAC Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 9:17 am
4-3
LDE – Sho-not-so-nasty anymore
DTs – Bryant, Houston
RDE – D. Moore
LBs – Burris, Maulaga, Wheeler
Bring back Thomas Howard to compete for a spot.
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I bet it’ll be Kirk Morrison back instead of Howard and Maulaga
January 11th, 2013 at 9:20 am
gasol for millsap
January 11th, 2013 at 9:20 am
hwnrdr Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 9:18 am
I guess not…lol…
However, if you were shown he door after 1 year and your assistant quit months later…would you come back? I wold think an apology and a “I know, I’m a retard” from DA would probably still not work…
and DAV…Mornhinwig? Seriously???
—-
People think of Mornhinweg the Lions HC..
But fail to see he has been a successful OC every stop.
January 11th, 2013 at 9:21 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 9:18 am
DMAC Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 9:17 am
4-3
LDE – Sho-not-so-nasty anymore
DTs – Bryant, Houston
RDE – D. Moore
LBs – Burris, Maulaga, Wheeler
Bring back Thomas Howard to compete for a spot.
—-
Maualuga?!
*Vomit*
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Who else is available at MLB?
January 11th, 2013 at 9:21 am
Pat Hill’s a never was and likely never will be kind of guy and the man is old. One foot in the grave like old. Al Saunders is older, but younger at the same time, if you get that.
The Cleveland’s, Jacskonville’s, the Carolina’s, Philadelphia’s, Buffalo’s of the world are moving to build a staff while we are over at the IHOP having another chicken sammich and coffee.
January 11th, 2013 at 9:21 am
KoolKell Says:
Bob Marley
I’d like to see a smash-mouth OC hired, you?.
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Old man, if that’s really you…
I want a guy who will put our players in the best position to succeed, a guy who will adapt to what the personnel does best and work from there, I’m not asking for any particular system but if it was up to me and considering the players we have under contract, I would just give the job to Al Saunders and take what worked the last copule of years, add a few wrinkles here and there like a fast-paced, no-huddle attack that we can use at times to mix things up and I would Marcel Reece a whole lot more.
January 11th, 2013 at 9:21 am
DA’s franchise worst and certainly better than Chuck’s
******
Franchise worst? In what category? We were only a 1/2 point per game worse than last year. (2011 27.1ppg allowed 2012 27.7ppg allowed)
January 11th, 2013 at 9:21 am
Dwight Howard needs a stretch 4.
Ryan Anderson should be target #1 for LA.
Love aint happening, get real.
January 11th, 2013 at 9:22 am
Trade Gasol for Gasol, Time for a trade back
January 11th, 2013 at 9:22 am
Maualuga?!
*Vomit*
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not alotta mlb free agents out there, our 1st should go toward star if he’s there or Moore, Werner if neither are there
January 11th, 2013 at 9:22 am
People think of Mornhinweg the Lions HC..
But fail to see he has been a successful OC every stop.
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Problem with that line of thinking is that I fully expect the next hired OC to be our interim HC around week 8 next year.
January 11th, 2013 at 9:22 am
Papa got Sportscaster of the Year award for California
January 11th, 2013 at 9:23 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 9:21 am
Dwight Howard needs a stretch 4.
Ryan Anderson should be target #1 for LA.
Love aint happening, get real.
______________
no way hornets will trade anderson
January 11th, 2013 at 9:23 am
After watching the raiders and lakers over the latter part of 2012….one thing is clear….preseason does matter. If you look like garbage in preseason you will be garbage in the regular season. Preseason success means nothing, but if you look like a train wreak in the preseason, then that will carry forward into the regular season.
January 11th, 2013 at 9:23 am
Who else is available at MLB?
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Kirk Morrison
January 11th, 2013 at 9:23 am
DMAC Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 9:21 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 9:18 am
DMAC Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 9:17 am
4-3
LDE – Sho-not-so-nasty anymore
DTs – Bryant, Houston
RDE – D. Moore
LBs – Burris, Maulaga, Wheeler
Bring back Thomas Howard to compete for a spot.
—-
Maualuga?!
*Vomit*
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Who else is available at MLB?
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Chase Blackburn
Tavares Gooden
Larry Grant
Any LB we sign will have to be able to play 34 or 43.
Maualuga cant play either.
January 11th, 2013 at 9:24 am
IN Philly? Not sure about that one…
January 11th, 2013 at 9:24 am
He was clueless last season.
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Cluelessed his way to shoulda’ve been up 3-1 against OKC, lol.
Kobe phucced us over TWICE, not Mike Brown.
The issue CLEARLY was and still is PG perimeter defense. Nash can’t guard anyone. He is WORSE than Sessions and Blake were last year. Opposing PGs do to the Lakers what RBs do to our defense year after year. EVERY PG we play against has ALL WORLD performances.
Mike Brown is no Phil Jackson. That’s not the point.
The point is the Laker perimeter defense is and has been an issue for 3 years. Kobe and all his complaining instead of getting back on defense, Nash/Sessions/Fisher’s SORRY ARSSES, and Gasoft as a last line of defense????
Mike Brown = easy scapegoat that doesn’t address the issues.
7 losses in a row after tonight. SMH
January 11th, 2013 at 9:24 am
1530.guest123 Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 9:22 am
People think of Mornhinweg the Lions HC..
But fail to see he has been a successful OC every stop.
*********
Problem with that line of thinking is that I fully expect the next hired OC to be our interim HC around week 8 next year.
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LOL, Good point
January 11th, 2013 at 9:24 am
The_Judge37 Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 9:23 am
Who else is available at MLB?
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Kirk Morrison
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I pass on Cpt Kirk
January 11th, 2013 at 9:25 am
inonewordraider Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 9:23 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 9:21 am
Dwight Howard needs a stretch 4.
Ryan Anderson should be target #1 for LA.
Love aint happening, get real.
______________
no way hornets will trade anderson
—-
More likely than Minny trading Love.
Gasol would be big for a young Hornets team…
January 11th, 2013 at 9:26 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 9:23 am
DMAC Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 9:21 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 9:18 am
DMAC Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 9:17 am
4-3
LDE – Sho-not-so-nasty anymore
DTs – Bryant, Houston
RDE – D. Moore
LBs – Burris, Maulaga, Wheeler
Bring back Thomas Howard to compete for a spot.
—-
Maualuga?!
*Vomit*
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Who else is available at MLB?
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Chase Blackburn
Tavares Gooden
Larry Grant
Any LB we sign will have to be able to play 34 or 43.
Maualuga cant play either.
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Says who?
Blackburn will be the next Tollefson as soon as he signs elsewhere
The other 2 are 3-4 backers
January 11th, 2013 at 9:26 am
The_Judge37 Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 9:22 am
Trade Gasol for Gasol, Time for a trade back
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Yeah, pau brought us two rings, but I am still mad about losing his bro! Yes, I am greedy lol.
I was pizzez that we lost Eddie jones, eldon Campbell and nick the quick before Phil got here too….I think that a team with those players on it with shaw and Kobe and Phil at the helm would have dominated even more than they did in the early part of this century.
January 11th, 2013 at 9:27 am
The Cleveland’s, Jacskonville’s, the Carolina’s, Philadelphia’s, Buffalo’s of the world are moving to build a staff while we are over at the IHOP having another chicken sammich and coffee.
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Just a ridiculous take, imo, Guest. Cmon man.
Wh the phucc eats at IHOP?????
January 11th, 2013 at 9:27 am
Hwnrdr Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 9:18 am
I guess not…lol…
However, if you were shown he door after 1 year and your assistant quit months later…would you come back? I wold think an apology and a “I know, I’m a retard” from DA would probably still not work…
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Yeah, I agree, too bad, but that’s why I can’t see Wylie coming back. damn shame.
January 11th, 2013 at 9:27 am
34 backers than can play 43.
Maualuga is horrible.
Houston exposed him so bad..
Were going 34 base. So..
January 11th, 2013 at 9:28 am
Just imagine with Kirk back on the team, between him and branch making tackles after 8 yard gains. They’d be perfect for DA and Tarver’s “Bend over but don’t break” defense.
January 11th, 2013 at 9:28 am
I heard parsons is locked in hou. They love him.
January 11th, 2013 at 9:28 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 9:27 am
34 backers than can play 43.
Maualuga is horrible.
Houston exposed him so bad..
Were going 34 base. So..
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Says who?
January 11th, 2013 at 9:29 am
Shaq not shaw….fraking auto correct!
January 11th, 2013 at 9:29 am
The_Judge37 Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 9:28 am
Just imagine with Kirk back on the team, between him and branch making tackles after 8 yard gains. They’d be perfect for DA and Tarver’s “Bend over but don’t break” defense.
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Don’t forget about Huffy jumping on fools back and carried an extra 5, before getting the assisted tackle
January 11th, 2013 at 9:29 am
Doubletree in Anaheim is nice, folks.
Bout to head back to Disneyland for day 2.
Y’all be good!
Hold it down DMAC! W’s lose in 1st rd . Baby steps though, right?
January 11th, 2013 at 9:30 am
DMAC Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 9:28 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 9:27 am
34 backers than can play 43.
Maualuga is horrible.
Houston exposed him so bad..
Were going 34 base. So..
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Says who?
—-
Says the GM and the players he has brought in, also says the Defensive Coordinator who has implemented the 34 this season and relied on it the last qtr of the season.
Also the best our D played all year.
January 11th, 2013 at 9:30 am
have fun in Micky Mouse land.
January 11th, 2013 at 9:30 am
More likely than Minny trading Love.
Gasol would be big for a young Hornets team…
_____________
no way minny would give up love and several reports saying no way hornets would give up the much cheaper 24 year old anderson averaging 17 and 7
January 11th, 2013 at 9:31 am
If you cant see that we’re going to 3-4, then you just dont want to see it. And there is no point talking about it.
January 11th, 2013 at 9:32 am
J Hill Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 9:29 am
Doubletree in Anaheim is nice, folks.
Bout to head back to Disneyland for day 2.
Y’all be good!
Hold it down DMAC! W’s lose in 1st rd . Baby steps though, right?
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Make sure Donald Duck doesn’t kick your ass again J Heezy!
Time to put those karate classes to use.
lol
January 11th, 2013 at 9:33 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 9:31 am
If you cant see that we’re going to 3-4, then you just dont want to see it. And there is no point talking about it.
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I’ll wait to see what we do.
No strong indications that we’re going 3-4
At least not yet
January 11th, 2013 at 9:34 am
Bob Marley Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 9:21 am
KoolKell Says:
Bob Marley
I’d like to see a smash-mouth OC hired, you?.
———————————————
Old man, if that’s really you…
I want a guy who will put our players in the best position to succeed, a guy who will adapt to what the personnel does best and work from there, I’m not asking for any particular system but if it was up to me and considering the players we have under contract, I would just give the job to Al Saunders and take what worked the last copule of years, add a few wrinkles here and there like a fast-paced, no-huddle attack that we can use at times to mix things up and I would Marcel Reece a whole lot more.
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It’s me Bob. I weant to see the Raiders play Raider smash mouth football, which is what we played under Hue & Mcfadden.
Carson is not a dinky dunk QB and the Raiders traditionally are not a pussie footin team. Beat the man up in front of ya, and go downfield. Raider Football.
January 11th, 2013 at 9:36 am
Tarver is still here… thats the sign that we’ll be using more 3/4
January 11th, 2013 at 9:39 am
Its easier to have a multiple look D from a base 3-4.
January 11th, 2013 at 9:39 am
Why wait a whole season to try the 3-4?
Dont have the proper players????
We didn’t have the players to run a zone offense and we still tried it, only to fail terribly.
January 11th, 2013 at 9:41 am
DMAC Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 9:24 am
The_Judge37 Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 9:23 am
Who else is available at MLB?
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Kirk Morrison
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I pass on Cpt Kirk
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Great. He’s still in the NFL? Maybe we can get him and keep McClain, and they both can have a contest to see how quick they can abandon their gap to stick their dick into the nearest lineman!
January 11th, 2013 at 9:42 am
J Hill Says:
Just a ridiculous take, imo, Guest. Cmon man.
Wh the phucc eats at IHOP?????
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Saw Truman Capote at the IHOP in Pasadena.
January 11th, 2013 at 9:43 am
Weak lbers, no true nose tackle…..yeah, pretty clear we are going to a 3-4!
We such in either scheme. Tarver and his frozen D standing still for 10 seconds before the snap so the qb can have a cup of coffee while diagnosing the formation, and his cb blitz from 25 yards away is just so cutting edge. I am pumped about our d next year!
January 11th, 2013 at 9:47 am
Sooooooooo……….
Another whole season of learning a new D
Great!
January 11th, 2013 at 9:48 am
What do you guys think about the possibility of getting Greg Jennings as a FA? Jennings streater and Moore could make some noise
January 11th, 2013 at 9:50 am
irjonny Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 9:48 am
What do you guys think about the possibility of getting Greg Jennings as a FA? Jennings streater and Moore could make some noise
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Would LOVE it.
Not gonna happen though.
January 11th, 2013 at 9:51 am
Adding a true #1 Wr would be huuuuge.
January 11th, 2013 at 9:52 am
Duece 1561^^^^^
January 11th, 2013 at 9:52 am
You think love to the lakers is a pipe dream? Read this and remember love is a free agent at a time where the lakers will have cap space and reflect on the fact that the wolves treated love like crap and have wanted gasol to play along side Rubio for two seasons now. Love will force his way to the lakers by the trade deadline of next year at the latest:
“I don’t know who labels people stars, but even [T'wolves owner] Glen Taylor said: I don’t think Kevin Love is a star, because he hasn’t led us to the playoffs,” Love told Yahoo! Sports. “I mean, it’s not like I had much support out there.
“That’s a tough pill to swallow.”
No, Kevin Love isn’t over Taylor and GM David Kahn refusing him what he had earned. He isn’t over Kahn marching into the trainer’s room after a loss and thrusting a contract offer sheet into his hands. Where else does it work that way in the NBA? “I’m not the one to always follow professional protocol – but I do know what it is, even at 24 years old,” Love says.
January 11th, 2013 at 9:53 am
DMAC Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 9:52 am
Duece 1561^^^^^
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Cant answer that question bro.
No one on this board can..
No way of knowing what goes on in meetings, practice etc..
January 11th, 2013 at 9:54 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 9:53 am
DMAC Says:
January 11th, 2013 at 9:52 am
Duece 1561^^^^^
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Cant answer that question bro.
No one on this board can..
No way of knowing what goes on in meetings, practice etc..
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So how can you assume we’re going 3-4 then?
January 11th, 2013 at 9:55 am
CDERaider Says:
January 10th, 2013 at 6:02 pm
McClown went from the #1 LB in college football winning every important personal award and the national title to a running joke in 3 years. No question McClown is a punk but many NFL players are. But this sort of meltdown is just another symptom of failure of coaching and leadership. If this dude was on a team with strong team leaders and strong coaching all of this insubordination and off the field crap would have never been tolerated nor even happened. Put him on the Niners or Patriots and the kid’s a baller who keeps his mouth shut.
Maybe we can still get a 6/7th rounder for him as he is young and can still ball in the right system. Otherwise we get nothing for him and he’s still on the payroll for 2013.
We’ve *got* to fix the coaching and leadership problem on this team or its never going to change, regardless of the players.
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EXACTLY!