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	<title>Comments on: Brown, Sapp among finalists for HOF voting</title>
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		<title>By: jesusraiderjim</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2013/01/11/brown-sapp-among-finalists-for-hof-voting/comment-page-7/#comment-1223244</link>
		<dc:creator>jesusraiderjim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 20:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Palmer is not the problem. We need players, period.  #53 reciever in the league is our best reciever.  Just not good!!</description>
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		<title>By: DJ Johnny</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 20:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s being said on the other post that all we need is an elite qb and we&#039;re in the playoffs.

No need to talk about anything else.

It doesn&#039;t make a difference if you&#039;ve had the worst defense in franchise history, or no running game, or receivers rated in the bottom half of the league, the only thing that matters is the QB.

Just thought i&#039;d let you guys in on that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s being said on the other post that all we need is an elite qb and we&#8217;re in the playoffs.</p>
<p>No need to talk about anything else.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t make a difference if you&#8217;ve had the worst defense in franchise history, or no running game, or receivers rated in the bottom half of the league, the only thing that matters is the QB.</p>
<p>Just thought i&#8217;d let you guys in on that.</p>
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		<title>By: jesusraiderjim</title>
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		<dc:creator>jesusraiderjim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 19:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some poll guy can take this over &quot;you know who you are&quot;</description>
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		<title>By: jesusraiderjim</title>
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		<dc:creator>jesusraiderjim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 19:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jesusraiderjim Says: 
January 17th, 2013 at 11:28 am 
Here are two diametrically opposing view points. Just for the hell of it with out explaination what side you on. Taking this to the previous post with only 350 hits. Again for our blog bros w/smart phones.

http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2013/01/11/brown-sapp-among-finalists-for-hof-voting/.. Thanks for playing.

charminultrasoft Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 10:16 am
he_Judge37 Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 10:12 am
1833.charminultrasoft Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 10:10 am
sacks don’t tell the whole story. QB hits and pressures are FAR more important. palmer was getting his ass kicked all year. he’s a smart veteran QB and gets rid of the ball quickly, otherwise he gets sacked 60 times
————
Like his underhanded Interception? That should’ve been a Sack. Let’s not throw the “Smart” label around so loosely
&gt;&gt; 14 ints in 565 pass attempts. thats a Good ratio actually, give any QB these same players and it wouldn’t be much different.. especially when YOU are the offense. i don’t get the Palmer hate. the dude IS the offense.

1. Just Fire Baby Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 9:09 am
Carson took a team that was 13-12 it’s previous 25 games, to 8-17 the next 25 games.
His 4-12 Bengal team, made the playoffs the next two years.
That is a helluva red flag “4,000 yards” passing and all.
QB’s and leaders elevate the play of their teammates. That’s why Tom Brady’s WR’s stink before and after they are in New England, and win Super Bowl MVP’s when they are there.
Tom Brady makes the playoffs in 2011 with this team no problem, and last year AT THE ABSOLUTE WORST, would have us still playing for something in December.
I understand that Tom Brady’s don’t grow on tree’s, but Carson Palmer’s do, and not at $13 million dollar price tags.

Palmers Good                     Sucks

toiletpaper(charminultrasoft)
jesusraiderjim
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jesusraiderjim Says:<br />
January 17th, 2013 at 11:28 am<br />
Here are two diametrically opposing view points. Just for the hell of it with out explaination what side you on. Taking this to the previous post with only 350 hits. Again for our blog bros w/smart phones.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2013/01/11/brown-sapp-among-finalists-for-hof-voting/." rel="nofollow">http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2013/01/11/brown-sapp-among-finalists-for-hof-voting/.</a>. Thanks for playing.</p>
<p>charminultrasoft Says:<br />
January 17th, 2013 at 10:16 am<br />
he_Judge37 Says:<br />
January 17th, 2013 at 10:12 am<br />
1833.charminultrasoft Says:<br />
January 17th, 2013 at 10:10 am<br />
sacks don’t tell the whole story. QB hits and pressures are FAR more important. palmer was getting his ass kicked all year. he’s a smart veteran QB and gets rid of the ball quickly, otherwise he gets sacked 60 times<br />
————<br />
Like his underhanded Interception? That should’ve been a Sack. Let’s not throw the “Smart” label around so loosely<br />
&gt;&gt; 14 ints in 565 pass attempts. thats a Good ratio actually, give any QB these same players and it wouldn’t be much different.. especially when YOU are the offense. i don’t get the Palmer hate. the dude IS the offense.</p>
<p>1. Just Fire Baby Says:<br />
January 17th, 2013 at 9:09 am<br />
Carson took a team that was 13-12 it’s previous 25 games, to 8-17 the next 25 games.<br />
His 4-12 Bengal team, made the playoffs the next two years.<br />
That is a helluva red flag “4,000 yards” passing and all.<br />
QB’s and leaders elevate the play of their teammates. That’s why Tom Brady’s WR’s stink before and after they are in New England, and win Super Bowl MVP’s when they are there.<br />
Tom Brady makes the playoffs in 2011 with this team no problem, and last year AT THE ABSOLUTE WORST, would have us still playing for something in December.<br />
I understand that Tom Brady’s don’t grow on tree’s, but Carson Palmer’s do, and not at $13 million dollar price tags.</p>
<p>Palmers Good                     Sucks</p>
<p>toiletpaper(charminultrasoft)<br />
jesusraiderjim<br />
hwnrdr</p>
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		<title>By: jesusraiderjim</title>
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		<dc:creator>jesusraiderjim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 19:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought I was gonna have to talk to myself. Which isn&#039;t that unusual actually. LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought I was gonna have to talk to myself. Which isn&#8217;t that unusual actually. LOL</p>
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		<title>By: hwnrdr</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2013/01/11/brown-sapp-among-finalists-for-hof-voting/comment-page-7/#comment-1223151</link>
		<dc:creator>hwnrdr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 19:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would have to agree with that one as well!</description>
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		<title>By: jesusraiderjim</title>
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		<dc:creator>jesusraiderjim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 19:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My vote is Palmer is the best player on our Offense</description>
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		<title>By: jesusraiderjim</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 19:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here are two diametrically opposing view points. Just for the hell of it with out  explaination  what side you on. Taking this to the previous post with only 350 hits. Again for our blog bros w/smart phones.

http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2013/01/11/brown-sapp-among-finalists-for-hof-voting/.. Thanks for playing.






charminultrasoft Says: 
January 17th, 2013 at 10:16 am 
he_Judge37 Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 10:12 am
1833.charminultrasoft Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 10:10 am
sacks don’t tell the whole story. QB hits and pressures are FAR more important. palmer was getting his ass kicked all year. he’s a smart veteran QB and gets rid of the ball quickly, otherwise he gets sacked 60 times
————
Like his underhanded Interception? That should’ve been a Sack. Let’s not throw the “Smart” label around so loosely
&gt;&gt; 14 ints in 565 pass attempts. thats a Good ratio actually, give any QB these same players and it wouldn’t be much different.. especially when YOU are the offense. i don’t get the Palmer hate. the dude IS the offense.



1.	Just Fire Baby Says: 
January 17th, 2013 at 9:09 am 
Carson took a team that was 13-12 it’s previous 25 games, to 8-17 the next 25 games.
His 4-12 Bengal team, made the playoffs the next two years.
That is a helluva red flag “4,000 yards” passing and all.
QB’s and leaders elevate the play of their teammates. That’s why Tom Brady’s WR’s stink before and after they are in New England, and win Super Bowl MVP’s when they are there.
Tom Brady makes the playoffs in 2011 with this team no problem, and last year AT THE ABSOLUTE WORST, would have us still playing for something in December.
I understand that Tom Brady’s don’t grow on tree’s, but Carson Palmer’s do, and not at $13 million dollar price tags.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are two diametrically opposing view points. Just for the hell of it with out  explaination  what side you on. Taking this to the previous post with only 350 hits. Again for our blog bros w/smart phones.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2013/01/11/brown-sapp-among-finalists-for-hof-voting/." rel="nofollow">http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2013/01/11/brown-sapp-among-finalists-for-hof-voting/.</a>. Thanks for playing.</p>
<p>charminultrasoft Says:<br />
January 17th, 2013 at 10:16 am<br />
he_Judge37 Says:<br />
January 17th, 2013 at 10:12 am<br />
1833.charminultrasoft Says:<br />
January 17th, 2013 at 10:10 am<br />
sacks don’t tell the whole story. QB hits and pressures are FAR more important. palmer was getting his ass kicked all year. he’s a smart veteran QB and gets rid of the ball quickly, otherwise he gets sacked 60 times<br />
————<br />
Like his underhanded Interception? That should’ve been a Sack. Let’s not throw the “Smart” label around so loosely<br />
&gt;&gt; 14 ints in 565 pass attempts. thats a Good ratio actually, give any QB these same players and it wouldn’t be much different.. especially when YOU are the offense. i don’t get the Palmer hate. the dude IS the offense.</p>
<p>1.	Just Fire Baby Says:<br />
January 17th, 2013 at 9:09 am<br />
Carson took a team that was 13-12 it’s previous 25 games, to 8-17 the next 25 games.<br />
His 4-12 Bengal team, made the playoffs the next two years.<br />
That is a helluva red flag “4,000 yards” passing and all.<br />
QB’s and leaders elevate the play of their teammates. That’s why Tom Brady’s WR’s stink before and after they are in New England, and win Super Bowl MVP’s when they are there.<br />
Tom Brady makes the playoffs in 2011 with this team no problem, and last year AT THE ABSOLUTE WORST, would have us still playing for something in December.<br />
I understand that Tom Brady’s don’t grow on tree’s, but Carson Palmer’s do, and not at $13 million dollar price tags.</p>
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		<title>By: hwnrdr</title>
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		<dc:creator>hwnrdr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 16:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are we jumping back and forth here???</description>
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		<title>By: hwnrdr</title>
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		<dc:creator>hwnrdr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 16:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>guest123 Says: 
January 17th, 2013 at 7:52 am 
Manti got 99 problems but a B**CH aint one.

LOL...good one!</description>
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January 17th, 2013 at 7:52 am<br />
Manti got 99 problems but a B**CH aint one.</p>
<p>LOL&#8230;good one!</p>
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