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Woodson grew up after he left the Raiders

Green Bay Packers defensive back Charles Woodson attained a level of production and respect he never had in Oakland.

The fact is, when Woodson left in free agency, his career was on the rocks. Even Tampa Bay coach Jon Gruden, who loved Woodson’s talent, did not authorize a big contract during free agency for the 2006 season.

Instead, Woodson signed with the only team that offered serious money _ the Green Bay Packers. And after relocating to the central United States with a team that would seem to have little to offer a player notorious for enjoying himself, Woodson instead thrived.

I remember writing a column before Woodson’s departure lamenting how a Hall of Fame talent would never reach the Hall of Fame. It’s not lot like I’ve never been wrong before, but it turns out I was way off base.

A link to Saturday’s story on Woodson after talking with Tim Brown and Rich Gannon . . .

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  • Just Fire Baby

    And besides JFB with your previos off-road excursions it is DEFINETLY better tp err on the side of caution LMAO!!

    *************************

    I’m telling ya!!!

  • Just Fire Baby

    I think the Chiefs take Joeckel.

    I had to google it, I’ve been calling him Jake Loeckel, lol.

    Probably not the best sign for a #1 pick, when people don’t even know your name.

  • hwnrdr

    Not like Cheers, no?

  • jesusraiderjim

    NORM!!

  • hwnrdr

    Hearing reports Trestman about to be Bears HC! Let’s see…

  • theghostronin79

    I was hearing that too Hwnrdr

  • DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL

    “WHATS SHAK’N NORM ?”
    “ALL 4 CHEEKS AND A COUPLE OF CHIN’S,GIMME A BEER..”

  • jesusraiderjim

    lmao dirt

  • hwnrdr

    DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
    January 15th, 2013 at 6:17 am
    “WHATS SHAK’N NORM ?”
    “ALL 4 CHEEKS AND A COUPLE OF CHIN’S,GIMME A BEER..”

    LOL

  • hwnrdr

    So if Trestman goes to Chicago, does that mean Martz will be back in the Bay? I actually forgot he was in SF not too long ago…

  • hwnrdr

    Dam…did everyone go to Cheers this chilly morning?

  • theghostronin79

    Man, it feels like the wrong year to have the #3 pick. Sure there’s guys we would take and would like to have but, none that high are “MUST HAVE, CAN’T MISS” ……
    I dunno

  • Just Fire Baby

    I know I am about the only one in here who thinks so, but I like the Falcons this weekend.

    And if they did win, how impressive would it be to beat the #1 then the #2 scoring defenses on the way to the Super Bowl?

  • guest123

    You guys complain about having the #3 pick. But at least there aren’t any “can’t miss” guys at the top of the draft. Consider if you will the 2007 draft. Historically bad draft for QB’s. Maybe 2013 is a draft you are glad you avoid if you need a QB.

    JaMarcus Russell
    Brady Quinn
    Kevin Kolb
    John Beck
    Drew Stanton
    Trent Edwards
    Isaiah Stanback
    Jeff Rowe
    Troy Smith
    Jordan Palmer
    Tyler Thigpen

  • hwnrdr

    I agree Ghost! JFB, I was kinda upset that the Seahawks didn’t pull it off at the end because IMO, they were the best matchup for SF. However, I am not counting the “Dirty Birds” out…I would like to see a Legend bowl, with Ray and Tony going at it!

  • theghostronin79

    As long as Patriots lose, I’m happy with whoever else makes it

  • hwnrdr

    Good Morning Guest! Who do you want to see us pick with the #3?

  • guest123

    I disagree with that Falcons call. Niners will smoke them this weekend. Falcons defense gets shredded regularly by mobile running QB’s. Cam Newton torched them this year. Falcons will lose and lose big time.

  • hwnrdr

    Looks like Chargers to hire Mike McCoy

  • theghostronin79

    Yeah, that would be a good one. I don’t particualrly “LIKE” the Ravens but….Gotta respect Ray. I’d like to see him go out on top. I have to say, I’ve never seen another player with his passion.

  • guest123

    Good Morning Hawaiian Raider!

    I put my pick in for Björn Werner, 4-3 DE and 3-4 OLB and overall beast sack machine out of FSU. But that’s just my opinion.

  • guest123

    Anybody hear about the Ravens Aya-pendejo ripping the Patriots Offense with its quick snaps and trick formations as “btch-azz”. That’s locker room material.

  • hwnrdr

    That might not be a bad pick, although wasn’t many saying that he disappears at times? Or was that Moore?

  • hwnrdr

    guest123 Says:
    January 15th, 2013 at 6:48 am
    Anybody hear about the Ravens Aya-pendejo ripping the Patriots Offense with its quick snaps and trick formations as “btch-azz”. That’s locker room material.

    Oh boy…really don’t need any more ammo for Brady!

  • Just Fire Baby

    If we stay at #3 I think it should be Werner or Moore. Jarvis Jones might have the best rookie year, but I think his ceiling might be the lowest, with his age, injuries, and really lack of an overall skill-set (he can’t play the run).

    Trade down opens that up a bit, and call me crazy, but Te’O should still be in the mix.

    Just like I don’t knock Clay Matthews down now for being ineffective in one game against the best O-line in football, I do the same for Te’O.

    That kid can play.

  • R8ER MIKE

    GOOD MORNING NATION !!
    and my GreenParty brothers !!

  • guest123

    BTW, NO to Martz, No to the Jags QB coach (really, what can you learn from a guy that coaches the worst QB’s in the league save for KC maybe), and if the only alternative is Trestman, then he’s got my full support.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Funny that it is Ayanbedajo or whatever using those terms, because he had a huge SI article about him and his role in the Gay and Lesbian community.

    I think his dad eventually came out as gay or somethig like that, and he is a huge activist for gay rights.

    “b!tch azz” doesn’t seem like his kind of taste.

  • hwnrdr

    Yup, no to Martz and Olson…JFB, I have to agree with you…I stil wouldn’t mind Te’o. He had a bad game, but he was always around the ball! Gotta give him that!

  • guest123

    Good call on Te’0

    But it would have to a precipitous fall for Reggie to get too excited about trading up for him. We have needs all over, and he’d be a nice complement to Phillip Weaver if we somehow can keep him.

  • Just Fire Baby

    I am all in on wanting Martz.

    He has had the most recent success.

    2010 Bears team were playing for the #1 seed in weeks 15 and 16, and put up 40 and 38 points.

    First round of the playoffs, 35 points on the Seachickens.

    Three straight must-win money games with 35+ points, with no Brandon Marshall or just about any talent on the O-line.

  • DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL

    DONT THINK WE WILL KNOW FOR SURE UNTIL WE HEAR”THE OAKLNND RAIDERS ARE NOW ON THE CLOCK” OT IS MY CHOICE THOUGH..

  • guest123

    I think he was drunk when he did those tweets. Only thing that makes any sense.

  • hwnrdr

    DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
    January 15th, 2013 at 6:56 am
    DONT THINK WE WILL KNOW FOR SURE UNTIL WE HEAR”THE OAKLNND RAIDERS ARE NOW ON THE CLOCK” OT IS MY CHOICE THOUGH..

    LOL, and even then, we will not know! Gawd, I remember hearing DHB’s name and went…”WHAT?” But, who knows, new era, new regime!

  • hwnrdr

    Yeah but JFB…unless we fix our lines and upgrade our receivers, do you think Martz’s system will work? And if they go with Martz, do you think they will trade Pryor?

  • guest123

    Martz most recent experience was total chaos for the QB. Last time anyone asked Jay Cutler about Martz, he told them to tell Martz to F himself. Add that to the fact he’s 2 years removed from the game, and the game is now moving toward the pistol set with running QB’s like Kaepernick, Wilson, RG3, Cam… I think Martz is a dinosaur of another era. Like if you asked Buddy Ryan to come out of retirement to coach defense. Some guys need to stay retired.

  • hwnrdr

    Pretty much a done deal…McCoy told Denver he is accepting the job in SD!

  • guest123

    LOL, and even then, we will not know! Gawd, I remember hearing DHB’s name and went…”WHAT?” But, who knows, new era, new regime!

    **********

    I never wanted Crabtree, but he’s looking like a beast in the postseason, and I doubt we will ever see DHB shine like that in a postseason game for the Raiders. So it does kind of hurt watching Crabtree get the last laugh. Remember his petulant acidy laugh when the Raiders passed him over?

  • hwnrdr

    And that is why I hate CrapTree…

  • hwnrdr

    Can someone wake up in Alameda???

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 15th, 2013 at 6:50 am
    If we stay at #3 I think it should be Werner or Moore. Jarvis Jones might have the best rookie year, but I think his ceiling might be the lowest, with his age, injuries, and really lack of an overall skill-set (he can’t play the run).

    Trade down opens that up a bit, and call me crazy, but Te’O should still be in the mix.
    $$$$$$$$$$

    You are Crazy!

  • guest123

    I remember when we drafted Wiz II in the second round. Al foolishly traded away the first to NE and left us waiting till halfway thru the 2nd. Meanwhile we all were hoping that Kaepernick would somehow fall to us. The Raiders scouting dept was all over that, but no ammo. Kaepernick is the future of QB’s in this league.

    The Read-option out of the pistol formation is the perfect neutralizer of the pass rush. Watch the LB’s frozen in their tracks on the exchange/fake exchange with the RB. It puts them in no mans land defending the pass or getting to the QB. Huge running lanes open up and if you have a QB that can pass accurately and can run, it’s a lethal formation. Defenses haven’t solved it yet. Maybe one day they will, but for now, this new wave is going to tear up defenses for a while to come.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Te’o is big and slow, had issues shedding blocks against good talent, and he couldn’t tackle well. Sounds familiar?

    Te’o = McClain without the attitude.

  • hwnrdr

    Ok, then tell me how Seattle stopped him…can’t all be the 12th man! I mean granted, Russell Wilson does the same thing, but…

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Star
    Moore
    Jones
    Milliner

  • hwnrdr

    Ok, O….good morning!
    Who would you like to see at #3?

  • hwnrdr

    Ooops….read my mind!

  • guest123

    At least Te’O doesn’t jog. He’s got talent to succeed at the next level but he’s probably more not an elite LB as his accolades make him seem. Still I’d be happy to draft him in the late first round on a trade down scenario.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Good morning Hwnrdr and Nation.

  • hwnrdr

    Say we go after D-line in FA and its solid! Do we go after Te’o then?