Raiders interview Martz for off. coord. vacancy
By Steve Corkran
Saturday, January 12th, 2013 at 2:42 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The Raiders interviewed Mike Martz for their offensive coordinator vacancy in an attempt to find an upgrade over the fired Greg Knapp, a person familiar with the situation said.
They also spoke with Juan Castillo about the prospect of taking over for fired offensive line coach Frank Pollack.
To this point, the Raiders have not released any information about their search for replacements for Knapp, Pollack, special teams coordinator Steve Hoffman and linebackers coach Johnny Holland.
All four were fired the day after the Raiders completed a 4-12 season, their 10th straight season without a winning record.
Martz last worked in the league as the Chicago Bears offensive coordinator in 2011. He was fired after a two-year stint. He was the 49ers offensive coordinator in 2008 and served in the same capacity for the Detroit Lions in 2006-07.
Raiders coach Dennis Allen said in his year-end news conference that he isn’t in a hurry to find an offensive coordinator.
“I don’t have a time frame for getting somebody in,” Allen said. “I want to make sure we get the right guy, and however long that takes for us to get the right guy, that’s how long that that takes.”
Allen also said he isn’t averse to working with an offensive coordinator that has experience as a head coach. Martz coached the Rams from 2000-05 and solidified his reputation as a guy that can get the most out of his offense.
“I’ll be comfortable with a guy I feel like gives us the best chance to be successful in all areas,” Allen said.
Under Knapp this season, the Raiders struggled establishing a consistent running attack and scoring points.
Pollack and Knapp came under fire for their implementation of the zone-blocking scheme upon their arrival last offseason.
Castillo was the Eagles offensive line coach for 13 seasons before then-coach Andy Reid promoted him to defensive coordinator before the 2011 season. The move backfired and resulted in the Eagles firing Castillo in October of this season.
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January 12th, 2013 at 2:43 pm
Ian85 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 2:40 pm
i dont understand why there r so many people with blind faith in mumbles the guy seems like a moron when he speaks and so far most his moves have proven it
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You mean getting rid of Routt (who can’t stay employed)?
Getting rid of DVD (who can’t make plays)?
Getting picks and players back for waste like Bruce Campbell and Louis Murphy?
What exactly are you referring to?
January 12th, 2013 at 2:43 pm
You’re kidding!
January 12th, 2013 at 2:44 pm
finally… both legit candidates
good to hear they are awake!
January 12th, 2013 at 2:45 pm
Back-N-Black Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 2:44 pm
finally… both legit candidates
good to hear they are awake!
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They’ve BEEN awake. Just waiting for the playoff assistants to become available.
January 12th, 2013 at 2:46 pm
Wow, not Martz. Damn these people are not convincing.
January 12th, 2013 at 2:47 pm
Wait I thought “Mumbles” was at Golden Corral and not doing anything?
Nice that our local guys got the inside route with the new organizational structure, and not are beholden to getting our newest of news from the national guys.
January 12th, 2013 at 2:48 pm
LOL
Now what are folks going to complain about?
January 12th, 2013 at 2:48 pm
Martz would be a terrible hire in my opinion… Can someone get Pep Hamilton in here
January 12th, 2013 at 2:49 pm
Wait I thought “Mumbles” was at Golden Corral and not doing anything?
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Nope, it was IHOP.
January 12th, 2013 at 2:49 pm
KK Take a sedative wait 10 minutes then read this
“Jackson does not have an interview with the Panthers, contrary to a report, and Carolina might end up promoting quarterbacks coach Mike Shula for its coordinator job following the departure of Rob Chudzinski to Cleveland.”
January 12th, 2013 at 2:50 pm
Wow, not Martz. Damn these people are not convincing.
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Super bowl winning OC isn’t going to do it for you? Just took the Bears to the NFC championsip game 2 years ago?
Tough crowd.
January 12th, 2013 at 2:50 pm
Martz has not done so well lately especially so in Chicago
I will pass
January 12th, 2013 at 2:52 pm
Vegas he would be ok if we needed some fine tuning to a good offense but we are rebuilding and establishing a system.
Doesn’t martz break away from that,
January 12th, 2013 at 2:53 pm
Martz is not a ZBS guy, neither is Castillo.
Martz would be a great hire, IMO. High-octane, toss it all over the yard offense.
WR’s would LOVE to come play for him.
January 12th, 2013 at 2:56 pm
Martz would make sense with Palmer and McFadden. At least they are talking with experienced coaches.
January 12th, 2013 at 2:57 pm
Mike Martz is the most depressing thing I’ve heard since Greg Knapp.
DA has got to go.
January 12th, 2013 at 2:57 pm
anything is an upgrade
January 12th, 2013 at 2:57 pm
Martz’s ability to use Faulk in the passing game was the stuff of legends.
His first year as OC, Faulk set an NFL record for yards from scrimmage.
January 12th, 2013 at 2:57 pm
M Martz?! Are you serious?
January 12th, 2013 at 2:58 pm
Super bowl winning OC isn’t going to do it for you? Just took the Bears to the NFC championsip game 2 years ago?
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I know, huh.
Did pretty well with Warner and Faulk. Don’t think he can do anything with DMac and Palmer?
January 12th, 2013 at 2:59 pm
Maybe we can send one of our scribes to get a quote from Martz on his feeling of the “space-aged, wave of the future” offense.
January 12th, 2013 at 2:59 pm
Martz would either be successful or a complete disaster. There isn’t a middle with him.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:00 pm
Denver looked short of the 36. Bad spot and bad review.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:01 pm
M Martz was just invited for an interview, he’s not hired yet, gawd now you guys want legitimate guys being interviewed as well even if they’re not going to hire that guy ? lmao tough crowd
January 12th, 2013 at 3:02 pm
Was that a 2 foot pass on 3rd and 7??
I thought Knapp only did that?
January 12th, 2013 at 3:02 pm
good sh1t he missed it lol i hope Baltimore scores,
January 12th, 2013 at 3:03 pm
I hate those drives when the divet is behind the ball!!!
I feel for you Prater
January 12th, 2013 at 3:04 pm
Watching bad kickers makes us really appreciate what we have with Jano
January 12th, 2013 at 3:04 pm
Bailey burned again!
January 12th, 2013 at 3:05 pm
An OG or OT can’t do that.
Give me play-makers any day of the week.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:05 pm
Wow, we could use some receiver play like that.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:05 pm
Great catch by T Smith.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:06 pm
Wouldn’t it be wonderful if the Raiders’ Maryland product Darrius Heyward-Bey could control his body and make catches like the Ravens’ Torrey Smith?
That was a beautiful jump and catch for a TD.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:06 pm
Flacco just threw it up. He was covered. Receiver makes a play.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:06 pm
Martz would be ok. Better get some better WR’s
January 12th, 2013 at 3:06 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 3:05 pm
An OG or OT can’t do that.
Give me play-makers any day of the week.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Exactly.
I said the same thing in the prev thread. lol
January 12th, 2013 at 3:07 pm
I’ll tell u one thing, they are very happy Martz is gone in Chicago. Cutler hated him. Cutler famously (on tape) told a bears player to tell Martz to go “f himself” after the player told him Martz wanted a certain play called.
One of the knocks was Martz’s offense was way too complicated and confusing…hence the move to Tice.
That being said I think the Chi. offense was worse this yr. than when Martz was there.
I’m sure we can break it down and see the comparisons.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:07 pm
I said before the year started that I would take Flacco over matty and Joe is kicking butt.
Its close but matty is in a much better position
January 12th, 2013 at 3:07 pm
[...] Martz For Their Offensive Coordinator Vacancy Nate Bouda January 12, 2013 No Comments Steve Corkran of the Contra Costa Times reports that the Oakland Raiders have interviewed Mike Martz for their offensive coordinator [...]
January 12th, 2013 at 3:08 pm
O,
No lie, I stole your material, lol
January 12th, 2013 at 3:08 pm
DJ, consider the source on that one…Cutler
January 12th, 2013 at 3:08 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 3:07 pm
I’ll tell u one thing, they are very happy Martz is gone in Chicago. Cutler hated him. Cutler famously (on tape) told a bears player to tell Martz to go “f himself” after the player told him Martz wanted a certain play called.
One of the knocks was Martz’s offense was way too complicated and confusing…hence the move to Tice.
That being said I think the Chi. offense was worse this yr. than when Martz was there.
I’m sure we can break it down and see the comparisons.
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If cutler hated him, that’s actually a positive for Martz.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:09 pm
Not gonna hang my hat on what Cutler thinks.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:09 pm
Smith should have had like 5 TD’s flacco overthrew him many times
January 12th, 2013 at 3:09 pm
DJ Johnny
Cutler is known to rub certain offensive coordinators the wrong way.
He is more of the backyard football mentality, go deep, and I’ll chuck it to you.
Put in complex route running, crisp route running and Cutler loses interest.
Lovie Smith got fired because of the offense’s inability to put up points.
Have to credit Cutler for one thing, he admitted it was his and the offenses fault Smith got canned.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:09 pm
Nevermind how are F’n Passing game is gonna look. Palmer threw 4,000 yards alot were garbage time but still.
HOW in the F is our RUNNING GAME GONNA LOOK. WE NEED THE RUN GAME BACK
January 12th, 2013 at 3:09 pm
Wouldn’t it be wonderful if the Raiders’ Maryland product Darrius Heyward-Bey could control his body and make catches like the Ravens’ Torrey Smith?
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DHB would never even TRY that, he would have climbed up Bailey’s back and try to draw the flag.
Which does work sometimes, I will give him that.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:11 pm
Martz is a has been. No retreads please. If you a going to rebuild, then rebuild.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:12 pm
It’s been a while, but, Martz got 1,000 rushing and 1,000 receiving output from Marshall Faulk during the Greatest Show on Turf years.
Martz’s playbook is about as big and deep as Al Saunders.
If he is hired, which is a big if at this point, Oakland will need to get more wide receivers. Martz would consistently deploy 4-wide receiver sets in all of his NFL stops as the base formation at times.
Juan Castillo as a potential offesive line coach is intriguing.
Wonder if Wylie will come back?
January 12th, 2013 at 3:12 pm
Keep Al Saunders and bring in Martz as OC. Let those two brain storm.
” Mike Martz credits the offensive system as being originally catalyzed by Sid Gillman and then refined at San Diego State by Don Coryell, who later transmitted his system to the NFL. Martz learned the Coryell 3-digit system from offensive coordinator Ernie Zampese when both coached for the Rams under Chuck Knox”
Don Coryell style.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:12 pm
Detroit Lions
Martz interviewed for head coaching vacancies in Oakland and New Orleans. After the interview, he withdrew his candidacy for the position in Oakland. After initially rejecting an offer due to financial considerations, on February 8, 2006, Martz accepted an offer from the Detroit Lions to be their offensive coordinator and their quarterbacks coach.
In 2006, his first season, the passing game improved considerably, ranking 7th overall behind quarterback Jon Kitna, who had his first 4,000-yard season at age 34. Detroit lost its first five games with Martz and finished 3–13 in his first season as coordinator. Though the offense obviously had its woes, Martz wasn’t blamed for very much of the team’s issues, as the defense was also bad and there were various injury and personnel issues.
In 2007, expectations were high despite the previous year’s disaster, and it appeared Martz’s system was actually beginning to work. The Lions looked to be playoff contenders, almost in competition with Green Bay for the division title at mid-season when they sat comfortably at 6–2. Though Kitna was still sacked far too much during this span due mostly due to seven step drops and his inability to quickly read defenses, it was still a great improvement from the year before, and sacks aside, Detroit possessed a decent passing game. Shaun McDonald was their leading receiver with nine hundred and forty three yards. However, the team won only one more game that season and finished 7–9. When even players began to complain of Martz’s pass-happy and unbalanced offense, the Lions fired him in the offseason.[2] However, the following season the Lions plummeted in the offensive rankings, and some players (most notably Kitna) were openly frustrated with the conservative play calling that replaced Martz’ system as the Lions became the first ever 0-16 team after firing Martz.[3]
January 12th, 2013 at 3:13 pm
C Bailey, looks like S Routt out there, Pro-Bowler? Gimme a break? Smith should have had like 5 TD’s in 1 half
January 12th, 2013 at 3:13 pm
Why would anyone watching this game, want to worry about the running game?
It’s 10 degrees in Denver, and each team is tossing it all over the field. Elite QB’s, awesome WR play.
The running game is an after-thought in today’s NFL.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:13 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 3:07 pm
I’ll tell u one thing, they are very happy Martz is gone in Chicago. Cutler hated him. Cutler famously (on tape) told a bears player to tell Martz to go “f himself” after the player told him Martz wanted a certain play called.
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Hahahahahaha, I watched that game and heard that. The overhead cam caught it. Martz was going to end up getting Cutler killed.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:13 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 3:08 pm
O,
No lie, I stole your material, lol
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
LOL
That’s OK.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:13 pm
However, the team won only one more game that season and finished 7–9. When even players began to complain of Martz’s pass-happy and unbalanced offense, the Lions fired him in the offseason.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:14 pm
Morilla
Many in here want a legitimate and accomplished candidate for OC and that usually means a retread.
It will be interesting to see how DA goes about the search; McKenzie as well.
Wonder if they go try and unearth someone and hire a relative unknown like the Tarver hire. With more time and talent, Tarver can be a good coach.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:14 pm
Put in complex route running, crisp route running
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I love the concept,but we don’t have WRs that can do either.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:15 pm
However, the following season the Lions plummeted in the offensive rankings, and some players (most notably Kitna) were openly frustrated with the conservative play calling that replaced Martz’ system as the Lions became the first ever 0-16 team after firing Martz.[
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Awesome!!!
While you are selectively pulling stanza’s from wiki, why don’t you pull up the Vermeil quote on the page?
January 12th, 2013 at 3:15 pm
Guys both martz and castillo would be upgrades, I like these choices if they come to fruition. And stop the crap about Cutler he is a coach killer period.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:15 pm
I like the idea of Al Saunders and Martz creating a offense.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:16 pm
[...] Martz last worked in the league as the Chicago Bears offensive coordinator in 2011. Source: Oakland Tribune Views 0 Comments [...]
January 12th, 2013 at 3:16 pm
Martz get too pass happy for my liking, the more you keep Palmers attempts to minimum the more chances we have success on the field, so the pass-run ratio should always be 60-40 or 55-45
January 12th, 2013 at 3:16 pm
Lefty12
Yeah, going to be interesting what would happen if Martz were hired.
I want an OC that exploits player strengths. i.e. DMC — power scheme.
More importantly, if he is on the roster, I would love to see the OC call plays that call for quick-hit, short passes to DHB and let him use his size and speed for YAC. Hubris did a good job of this.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:16 pm
Martz?
He’s a really innovative guy but Martz couldn’t get along with Mother Theresa.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:17 pm
Jay Cutler has no credibility. The guy is a punk and pushes his OLINE guy.
He still sucks w/o martz
January 12th, 2013 at 3:17 pm
Professional coaches vs. Semi pros which we just fired, sorry pollack sucked and knapp no comment necessary.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:17 pm
Vermeil stated, “I can’t think, in my history of coaching, of any assistant who came into an NFL franchise and made the immediate impact that Mike Martz did.”
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Immediate impact.
Guarantee Martz wouldn’t run it sideways on 3rd and 1, or even run it.
F’ing fling down the field!!!
January 12th, 2013 at 3:17 pm
Chicago Bears
On February 1, 2010, Martz was hired by the Chicago Bears as their offensive coordinator.[6] During his first year in Chicago, the Bears offense was 28th in passing and 22nd in rushing despite having no significant injuries.
Martz was commonly criticized for aggressive play-calling, and the calls for a pass-happy offense led to quarterback Jay Cutler getting repeatedly sacked. The issue caused Cutler to say to Martz “Tell him I said fuk him!” in a game against the Minnesota Vikings in 2011.[7][8]
On January 3, 2012, Martz resigned his position with the Bears.[9] He reportedly resigned over philosophical differences with Bears head coach Lovie Smith. Martz’s final year was marked by season-ending injuries to quarterback Jay Cutler and running back Matt Forte. On January 16, 2012, Martz announced his retirement from coaching.[10][11]
Martz eventually became an analyst for Fox Sports.[12]
January 12th, 2013 at 3:18 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 3:13 pm
C Bailey, looks like S Routt out there, Pro-Bowler? Gimme a break? Smith should have had like 5 TD’s in 1 half
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The pro bowl is longer about performance, it’s turned into a popularity contest.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:18 pm
And who cares about feelings and getting along, I am sure Martz would bring out the best in our receivers
January 12th, 2013 at 3:18 pm
Martz was commonly criticized for aggressive play-calling, and the calls for a pass-happy offense led to quarterback Jay Cutler getting repeatedly sacked. The issue caused Cutler to say to Martz “Tell him I said fuk him!” in a game against the Minnesota Vikings in 2011.[7][8]
January 12th, 2013 at 3:20 pm
Jackasspuria Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 3:14 pm
Morilla
Many in here want a legitimate and accomplished candidate for OC and that usually means a retread.
It will be interesting to see how DA goes about the search; McKenzie as well.
Wonder if they go try and unearth someone and hire a relative unknown like the Tarver hire. With more time and talent, Tarver can be a good coach.
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Oh , I hear you guys. I wanted Norv. But we also have to think long haul. Would Norv have worked? Don’t know, his glory days Aikman was still slinging the ball. And Martz? Man, we don’t have the WRs corp to deal with his crazy arse play book.
I’m comfortable with AS or some bright young prospect.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:20 pm
Another thing guaranteed that on 3rd down Martz wouldn’t call a screen pass for 3 yards on 3rd and 10, my daughter could draw up a better plays
January 12th, 2013 at 3:20 pm
We could do a hell of a lot worse than either of those guys.Just look at last season.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:21 pm
With Martz as OC, Faulk set an NFL record in Yards from scrimmage and averaged 5.5 ypc.
His next season, with Martz as HC, he had 26 TD’s, 5.4 ypc, 10.2 ypc.
This would be an OC hire, with the intention of getting some REAL production from McFadden.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:21 pm
Raiders have a bunch of “Fast” WR’s that were obviously not used correctly last year. I think Martz would do ok. We would see A lot of 4 wide sets.
Spread the field. Use the speed.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:21 pm
I’m pretty sure it was just whatever interview just to appease over-reacting fans who are complaining about not even bringing anyone for an interview, I’m pretty sure some one like Pete Carmichael will be called in for interview on Monday or Tuesday
January 12th, 2013 at 3:21 pm
When presented with a 3rd-and-short play, Martz tends to line up his offense in single-back, 4-wide receiver set and it’s either a crossing route, quick slant, or a deep bomb.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:22 pm
KoolKell is going to pull every negative thing from Wiki, and selectively leave out the positives, lol.
A-G-E-N-D-A
January 12th, 2013 at 3:22 pm
Guess what .. EVERYONE IS GONNA BE A RETREAD in the NFL..
The nfl circle is somewhat small. ITs like one big circle jeerk with coaches/ assistants.
Its about finding the right one that fits ur team for the year/ roster
January 12th, 2013 at 3:23 pm
RaidO Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 3:21 pm
Raiders have a bunch of “Fast” WR’s that were obviously not used correctly last year. I think Martz would do ok. We would see A lot of 4 wide sets.
Spread the field. Use the speed.
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It would require running real routes, those long strikes only worked when the running game was working, they can’t find an open space when Ds know what’s coming
January 12th, 2013 at 3:23 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 3:21 pm
With Martz as OC, Faulk set an NFL record in Yards from scrimmage and averaged 5.5 ypc.
His next season, with Martz as HC, he had 26 TD’s, 5.4 ypc, 10.2 ypc.
This would be an OC hire, with the intention of getting some REAL production from McFadden.
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Why don’t you stfu for a moment and listen. Greg Knapp lover.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:23 pm
Mcfadden20
Does seem that way with the Martz, Castillo interviews, no?
Like you, I believe the OC/O-line coach will come from either Atlanta or Green Bay.
Carmichael, Kromer (free agent, former Saints coaches) Martz and Castillo are fallbacks — if they are not hired before then.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:24 pm
Martz was actually the first OC to run what is currently working in the NFL. Spread the field open up the run with the pass.
Teams who run it today like the patriots and saints have had success with the same gameplan.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:24 pm
Trade dmac and palmer for Trinidad!!
January 12th, 2013 at 3:24 pm
Special Teams fellas…
January 12th, 2013 at 3:25 pm
WOW, 2nd KO returned TD LOL
January 12th, 2013 at 3:25 pm
Is Hoffman coaching the Ravens ST today?
January 12th, 2013 at 3:26 pm
And people laugh when I say we should draft the Honey Badger early and have him focus on returns exclusively.
Return men can completely impact a football game.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:26 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 3:18 pm
Martz was commonly criticized for aggressive play-calling, and the calls for a pass-happy offense led to quarterback Jay Cutler getting repeatedly sacked. The issue caused Cutler to say to Martz “Tell him I said fuk him!” in a game against the Minnesota Vikings in 2011
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That’s true but Cutler complains about most everything and when it comes to aggressive play calling?….Raider football!
The problem with Martz is not his football acumen, it’s his personality.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:26 pm
Another Impact play.
We need pact players not OL.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:26 pm
I was willing to be on board when they rehired knapp, I am a true raider fan and supportive. But as much as we bash DA I think it was clear he was dumbfounded how bad knapp was Charles Manson would have been better. Another thing I think our receivers were on the cusp u til this year and to regress this much total indictment of the OC
January 12th, 2013 at 3:26 pm
The special teams coach in John Harbaugh is balling like a baby right now… they showed his face on the replay and he was pissed.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:27 pm
WOW, 2nd KO returned TD LOL repost
January 12th, 2013 at 3:27 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 3:26 pm
And people laugh when I say we should draft the Honey Badger early and have him focus on returns exclusively.
Return men can completely impact a football game.
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I would interview him first and check where his heads out. If the interview went well, I agree he would be a play maker back there
January 12th, 2013 at 3:27 pm
I think Honey Badger is a douche, and not EVER going to be worthwile defensively. I think there is just as good of a chance he switches to offense like Hester did.
But he can make a real impact returning kicks, and we can’t return things worth a shat.
Instant upgrade!!!
January 12th, 2013 at 3:28 pm
There is one thing: There is no way in hell that Martz could be a worse OC than Knapp.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:28 pm
Mike Martz is the most depressing thing I’ve heard since Greg Knapp.
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I think he’d be a nice change and having him would open up running lanes and perhaps lure a decent big free agent receiver to Oakland. Martz’s problem is not his ideas but his personality, evidently.
Watching Manning/Flacco and how their big receivers allow their qb to throw the ball up, not have to hit the guy in the tummy (as DHB likes it), and let the receiver get it is instructive.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:28 pm
Just Fire Baby
Don’t need to be uber fast to get into end zone on KO’s, although speed does kill.
I remember when Terry Kirby took it to the house against the Steelers on a KO return during the Gruden years.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:28 pm
The problem with Martz is not his football acumen, it’s his personality.
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I don’t know about his personality, but his highest Offense since 05′ was 19th in 07′.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:28 pm
and the NFL wants to do away with returns???
January 12th, 2013 at 3:29 pm
jackasspuria Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 3:23 pm
Mcfadden20
Does seem that way with the Martz, Castillo interviews, no?
Like you, I believe the OC/O-line coach will come from either Atlanta or Green Bay.
Carmichael, Kromer (free agent, former Saints coaches) Martz and Castillo are fallbacks — if they are not hired before then.
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Carmichael would be the best hire, i don’t know any successful guy on atlanta or Gb squads
January 12th, 2013 at 3:29 pm
DHB would probably flourish with Martz.He’d be asked to run those crossing routes and then use his speed.McFadden no doubt would benefit.Could be a good fit.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:29 pm
85 you are right, just open up and spread the offense. Martz is a still a master at that, and please tell me who thinks that Chicago had half the talent we have on offense, he had nothing
January 12th, 2013 at 3:30 pm
Some of you act as if there’s an algebraic equation the allows you to plug in names instead of numbers and get the result you want. No such equation exists.
If nothing else, an interview with Martz might be a learning experience for our hc, but actually, I’d like to see Martz do this.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:30 pm
Impact*
January 12th, 2013 at 3:30 pm
The Martz fad went out of style in 06′
January 12th, 2013 at 3:31 pm
Koolkell screw the personalty trip, it is never about friendship, please tell me gannon and gruden were buddies?
January 12th, 2013 at 3:31 pm
Mcfadden20
Carmichael is a logical pick at OC.
High-octane, go-get-’em offense.
And he was interviewed by McKenzie for the head coaching gig, I believe.
Wonder why no other teams looking for an OC have brought Carmichael in? Is he just waiting for the Saints to offer him another contract so he can stay with Sean Peyton in New Orleans?
January 12th, 2013 at 3:32 pm
Denver fans are stupid, booing on obvious penalties LMFAO
January 12th, 2013 at 3:32 pm
He’d be asked to run those crossing routes and then use his speed
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He better give it a little more effort than he did against Carolina to start the game.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:33 pm
Koolkell Martz can call’plays, and the our team has such good talent at all the positions for Martz to succeed
January 12th, 2013 at 3:33 pm
LOL 3 straight offsides? wow
January 12th, 2013 at 3:34 pm
Huge fumble there
January 12th, 2013 at 3:34 pm
wow Baltimore is killing themselves
January 12th, 2013 at 3:34 pm
I kinda had the feeling something bad was going to happen, like i was watching the Raiders O
January 12th, 2013 at 3:34 pm
Ford is a good KR so we only need a punt returner.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:35 pm
I think ford in the slot would be nice with Martz.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:36 pm
WOW that’s like 10 penalties in about 14 plays
January 12th, 2013 at 3:37 pm
Damn I hate the broncos, please reed pickoff a pass now.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:39 pm
jackasspuria Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 3:12 pm
It’s been a while, but, Martz got 1,000 rushing and 1,000 receiving output from Marshall Faulk during the Greatest Show on Turf years.
Martz’s playbook is about as big and deep as Al Saunders.
If he is hired, which is a big if at this point, Oakland will need to get more wide receivers. Martz would consistently deploy 4-wide receiver sets in all of his NFL stops as the base formation at times.
Juan Castillo as a potential offesive line coach is intriguing.
Wonder if Wylie will come back?
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I think we have more to work with at the WR position than he could of ever thought of when he was with the Bears. Sure we could use a legit #1, Hue got some good production out of our WRs and of course DMC. Who knows, Im on the fence when it comes to Martz, but I have a feeling we could do alot worse
January 12th, 2013 at 3:39 pm
Wow DEN is getting lucky as eff
January 12th, 2013 at 3:40 pm
elraidmanhattan Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 3:31 pm
Koolkell screw the personalty trip, it is never about friendship, please tell me gannon and gruden were buddies?
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KK wasn’t talking about Matz’s personality, that was me.
And did Gruden love Gannon? You bet you fuk’n azz he did.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:41 pm
One of the local guys tweeted that the staff was not all that enamored with Ford.
That is straight from the horses mouth, as our local scribes got a great relationship with Reggie.
Last we saw of Ford he dropped multiple passes against Dallas, then got hurt for the season on a routine tackle.
Can’t count on him for anything.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:41 pm
WOW this is crazy , that should have been sack and fumble recovery for Baltimore, can’t believe 2 flags on baltimore
January 12th, 2013 at 3:42 pm
Ford should be only a KR, he freaking scared to catch passes
January 12th, 2013 at 3:42 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 3:41 pm
One of the local guys tweeted that the staff was not all that enamored with Ford.
That is straight from the horses mouth, as our local scribes got a great relationship with Reggie.
Last we saw of Ford he dropped multiple passes against Dallas, then got hurt for the season on a routine tackle.
Can’t count on him for anything.
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I have a hard time believing he’ll be back next year.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:43 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 3:42 pm
Ford should be only a KR, he freaking scared to catch passes
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Or this. KR duties.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:43 pm
Baltimore D s8cks, see what happens when you can’t get to a QB? Our D did much better on P M in the last game against them
January 12th, 2013 at 3:44 pm
I have a hard time believing he’ll be back next year.
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I think he will be dangled to move up in the later rounds, a la Kirk Morrison.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:44 pm
Englandraider, Yes he loved gruden but they were heated at times I know because I saw those exchanges but Martz may not be mr. Personality but seeing the weapons we have come on I could care less if he said thank you or your welcome
January 12th, 2013 at 3:44 pm
Jacoby ford much like Dmoore always show that piss poor aww shucks attitude.
This team needs football players who get amped up to play.. show emotion and are gonna give it their all.
Tyrann Mathieu would be a stud. U dont get to heisman finalist at 5ft 9 175 pounds without having some heart.
PR touchdowns, 7 forced fumbles, INTS.. all in 2 years
January 12th, 2013 at 3:45 pm
Just Fire Baby
I believe it was at the season-ending presser with McKenzie that was transcribed word-for-word by Tim Kawakami, Jerry Mac, Cork and others where McKenzie states the loss of Jacoby Ford really hurt the team.
“We had plans for him” was what McKenzie was quoted.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:46 pm
FORD and MOORE have really terrible attitudes, they only play well when they get going, one big hit, they are out of the game mentally, I will take DHB over them anytime, Streater would be a stud for us next year
January 12th, 2013 at 3:46 pm
Ravens special teams not looking to special today…
or maybe they are special like riding the short bus special.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:46 pm
Realtruraider
The talent currently at WR is decent.
I’m talking about adding two more bodies for depth at the position in terms of keeping guys fresh and at a good energy level much like the D does with the D-line rotating guys in and out.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:47 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 3:41 pm
One of the local guys tweeted that the staff was not all that enamored with Ford.
That is straight from the horses mouth, as our local scribes got a great relationship with Reggie.
Last we saw of Ford he dropped multiple passes against Dallas, then got hurt for the season on a routine tackle.
Can’t count on him for anything.
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Really? I don’t recall ever hearing that, I know most of the beatwriters have said Ford will be back, they were all talkin him up in training camp, Tafur was tellin people to pick him up on Fantasy because he was goin to be a huge part of the offense. I think his injury hurt our offense more than people realize ( well maybe not with knapp callin plays anyway) I think he will be back no doubt
January 12th, 2013 at 3:47 pm
Guys need to relax too. ITS just and INTERVIEW.. seeing what he has to offer.
Prolly talking Roster how he would use it. u dig?
January 12th, 2013 at 3:47 pm
I was really pissed off this year because as much as we had a chance for the division in 2011 we were so damn flawed but the offense was explosive at times, even under cable we had games that were blowouts but this year we were abysmal not explosiveness anybody would be an upgrade period.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:48 pm
elraidmanhattan Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 3:44 pm
Englandraider, Yes he loved gruden but they were heated at times I know because I saw those exchanges but Martz may not be mr. Personality but seeing the weapons we have come on I could care less if he said thank you or your welcome
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No, I’m not not either.
It’s all about just how much does Martz’s personality/ambition disrupt a team.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:48 pm
When you said DHB, crossing, and martz, I changed my mind.
Plus Martz can help DA p[lay mind games with other coaches
January 12th, 2013 at 3:49 pm
An OG or OT can’t do that.
Give me play-makers any day of the week.
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What rd was Smith drafted in?
January 12th, 2013 at 3:49 pm
It sure seems like Ray Rice gets shut down a lot.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:49 pm
I call BS on the story
January 12th, 2013 at 3:50 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 3:42 pm
Ford should be only a KR, he freaking scared to catch passes
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He has shown that he will attack the ball and actually take it away from mofos, he will be back and we could of really used him this year
January 12th, 2013 at 3:51 pm
I’ll have to look it up but i think Cutlers stats were much better with Martz than last yr. with Tice, and this yr. he had a true # 1 in Brandon Marshall to throw to.
The optimist in me says this is the author of the Greatest Show on Turf. The pessimist says…..well…what Kell pointed out.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:51 pm
Someone who has twitter can go look it up, it was posted on here.
Not sure if it was Tafur or someone else.
I believe the quote was along the lines that the staff was not enamored with him and that he needs to “grow up”.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:52 pm
Please someone tell me with dynamic speed receivers like DHB and Moore they were rendered to quick outs and short slats, you don’t think they were pissed with the packages, come on it was obvious they were uninspired
January 12th, 2013 at 3:53 pm
What rd was Smith drafted in?
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2nd round, 4th WR off the board.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:53 pm
“Martz’s ability to use Faulk in the passing game was the stuff of legends.”
A guy like Martz actually knows how to use the talent on a team.
The question is always if he can get along with others.
For some on the team, he’d be a breath of fresh air.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:54 pm
Knapp must have took over Baltimore play calling after half time
January 12th, 2013 at 3:54 pm
Per twitter
Pete Roussel @coachingsearch
Sources tell me Jacksonville quarterbacks / asst head coach Greg Olsen has interviewed for the OC job with Oakland.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:55 pm
from another raider board
“Greg Olson is considered a very good QB coach, perhaps Terelle Pryor could benefit tremendously from his tutelage. From what I can tell he is also a fan favorite, one the Jaguar fans consider underrated and would like back next season.”
January 12th, 2013 at 3:55 pm
From Twitter:
Pete Roussel @coachingsearch
Sources tell me Jacksonville quarterbacks / asst head coach Greg Olsen has interviewed for the OC job with Oakland.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:56 pm
Den field looks terrible
January 12th, 2013 at 3:56 pm
I want to know what OC can make a nice chicken salad out of chicken Shyyyyt
January 12th, 2013 at 3:56 pm
I swear they relaxed that chain at the last second.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:56 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 3:55 pm
from another raider board
“Greg Olson is considered a very good QB coach, perhaps Terelle Pryor could benefit tremendously from his tutelage. From what I can tell he is also a fan favorite, one the Jaguar fans consider underrated and would like back next season.”
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I see I’m not the only one on here who likes The Forbidden Site. What’s your handle over there?
January 12th, 2013 at 3:57 pm
Notice they never pulled the chains tight?
They always do but they did not that time
January 12th, 2013 at 3:57 pm
DJ you make some rational points, I am just emotionally drained from the incompetence of the organization. The fact is Reggie let DA hire Knapp, and change the scheme, so things can be righted now, and Martz would be good, but I still am dumbfounded by what occurred this year, how do you take a good offense and dismantle it?
January 12th, 2013 at 3:57 pm
WOW I guess the Management is kinda sneaky, interviewing all these guys without anyone knowing lol
January 12th, 2013 at 3:57 pm
I see I’m not the only one on here who likes The Forbidden Site. What’s your handle over there?
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dont have one brah.. just lurk.. Dont really like the layout
January 12th, 2013 at 3:58 pm
RaidO Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 3:15 pm
I like the idea of Al Saunders and Martz creating a offense.
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So do I.
January 12th, 2013 at 3:59 pm
Den is just getting lucky this game, Flacco should have had like 5 TDs in first half, overthrew T Smith many times
January 12th, 2013 at 4:00 pm
Yes, holding hahahahah
January 12th, 2013 at 4:00 pm
I hate both teams, but I don’t want Denver to win a SB.
Go Crows!!
January 12th, 2013 at 4:00 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 3:57 pm
WOW I guess the Management is kinda sneaky, interviewing all these guys without anyone knowing lol
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It also puts the lie to “WAAAAH! THEY’RE NOT INTERVIEWING ANYONE! WAAAAH!”
January 12th, 2013 at 4:00 pm
RaidO Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 3:15 pm
I like the idea of Al Saunders and Martz creating a offense.
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I like the idea of Al Sanders doing anything.
This is the most underappreciated guy in football.
Give him the job already.
January 12th, 2013 at 4:00 pm
Jax QB’s?????
Your going to have to sell me on that one.
January 12th, 2013 at 4:01 pm
YES finnally a fumble hahahah F8ckk Manning
January 12th, 2013 at 4:01 pm
Beautiful Manning getting pummelled now
January 12th, 2013 at 4:01 pm
I hope NE embarrasses Denver. I can’t stand this.
January 12th, 2013 at 4:02 pm
Martian head annoys the sh1t outta me with all his gyrations. Stfu already!
January 12th, 2013 at 4:02 pm
WOW TUCK RULE will come into play, wow first against us from Pats, now going to favor our enemy
January 12th, 2013 at 4:02 pm
Tuck rule, that should not be a fumble.
January 12th, 2013 at 4:03 pm
I hope we don’t hire Martz. He had success with the Rams, but he didn’t do well with other teams.
January 12th, 2013 at 4:03 pm
2nd round, 4th WR off the board.
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Ok.
I thought you might be talking about a WR at #3 overall.
January 12th, 2013 at 4:03 pm
It seemed like Tuck Rule was only created to f8kk the Raiders , Pats would have had 0 trophies if not for that bs, and Raiders would have probably won 2 SB’s , it’s amazing how 1 play can change 2 organizations
January 12th, 2013 at 4:04 pm
Hey, can we leave the offense intact and just upgrade the D, first order of business after cutting seymour and kelly is signing Aviril, and drafting Jarvis Jones
January 12th, 2013 at 4:04 pm
This is just a stupid rule , makes no freaking sense at all
January 12th, 2013 at 4:05 pm
Raider O, Martz had crap to work with in Chicago
January 12th, 2013 at 4:05 pm
f’k dan dickdorf
January 12th, 2013 at 4:05 pm
Now only if they had called that fumble against Brady , freaking hurts so much thinking about it
January 12th, 2013 at 4:06 pm
Terrible call.That was a classic tuck rule play.
January 12th, 2013 at 4:06 pm
Wow, suprised the hell out of me.
I think that was Clady giving up the sack to a backup DE.
January 12th, 2013 at 4:06 pm
You see, Peyton had a disadvantage in getting a call in his favor there…opposing team wasn’t wearing silver & black.
January 12th, 2013 at 4:06 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 3:55 pm
From Twitter:
Pete Roussel @coachingsearch
Sources tell me Jacksonville quarterbacks / asst head coach Greg Olsen has interviewed for the OC job with Oakland.
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One nightmare after another, Gawd Pleeeeeeaaaaaasssssseeee stop torturing me!!!!
January 12th, 2013 at 4:06 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 4:03 pm
It seemed like Tuck Rule was only created to f8kk the Raiders , Pats would have had 0 trophies if not for that bs, and Raiders would have probably won 2 SB’s , it’s amazing how 1 play can change 2 organizations
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So TRUE
January 12th, 2013 at 4:06 pm
Yes baby , keep rolling that RICE
January 12th, 2013 at 4:06 pm
Great play call great run
January 12th, 2013 at 4:08 pm
Raider O Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 4:03 pm
I hope we don’t hire Martz. He had success with the Rams, but he didn’t do well with other teams.
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Working with Dick Vermiel.
January 12th, 2013 at 4:08 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 4:06 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 3:55 pm
From Twitter:
Pete Roussel @coachingsearch
Sources tell me Jacksonville quarterbacks / asst head coach Greg Olsen has interviewed for the OC job with Oakland.
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One nightmare after another, Gawd Pleeeeeeaaaaaasssssseeee stop torturing me!!!!
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Can you stop, they are just being interviewed, haven’t hired any one yet, take a chill pill
January 12th, 2013 at 4:08 pm
Al is rolling over in his grave after that call on Peyton’s “TUCK”…
Just shows that rule was oly made up to screw the Raiders!
WHAT A CROCK!
January 12th, 2013 at 4:08 pm
It seemed like Tuck Rule was only created to f8kk the Raiders
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Obviously. An obscure rule never before seen called in a game gets pulled out a very convenient time to eff us in a big game. Still not being called either as you can see. Will they remove it? Nope. Nice to have some BS rules handy when you need them.
January 12th, 2013 at 4:09 pm
I thought you might be talking about a WR at #3 overall.
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If there was a Julio Jones or AJ Green in the draft, I would be highly considering of it.
January 12th, 2013 at 4:10 pm
The tuck rule screwed us, I remember watching that game with this chick I was dating, I told her if you watch with me don’t say a damn word. When they ruled forward motion she said ” don’t worry I think the raiders will win” I told her shut up and leave.
January 12th, 2013 at 4:11 pm
I have never seen that before. The refs did not pull the chain tight.
NFL wants Manning in the SB or at least matched up with Brady in the afc
Rice is moving since I bad mouthed him
January 12th, 2013 at 4:11 pm
Yeah baby just keep running on V Miller and DUmberville
January 12th, 2013 at 4:11 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 4:06 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 3:55 pm
From Twitter:
Pete Roussel @coachingsearch
Sources tell me Jacksonville quarterbacks / asst head coach Greg Olsen has interviewed for the OC job with Oakland.
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One nightmare after another, Gawd Pleeeeeeaaaaaasssssseeee stop torturing me!!!!
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Duck, this is not me. It’s my wannabee troll.
January 12th, 2013 at 4:11 pm
That glove is messing with Manning.
January 12th, 2013 at 4:11 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 4:11 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 4:06 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 3:55 pm
From Twitter:
Pete Roussel @coachingsearch
Sources tell me Jacksonville quarterbacks / asst head coach Greg Olsen has interviewed for the OC job with Oakland.
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One nightmare after another, Gawd Pleeeeeeaaaaaasssssseeee stop torturing me!!!!
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Duck, this is not me. It’s my wannabee troll.
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I missed you.
January 12th, 2013 at 4:12 pm
Invesco got REAL QUIET after that score
January 12th, 2013 at 4:12 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 4:11 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 4:11 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 4:06 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 3:55 pm
From Twitter:
Pete Roussel @coachingsearch
Sources tell me Jacksonville quarterbacks / asst head coach Greg Olsen has interviewed for the OC job with Oakland.
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One nightmare after another, Gawd Pleeeeeeaaaaaasssssseeee stop torturing me!!!!
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Duck, this is not me. It’s my wannabee troll.
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I missed you.
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Of course you did. I missed you too.
January 12th, 2013 at 4:12 pm
To confuse that stupid azz rule even more, I believe that the fact that he was losing control of it before he could “Tuck” it, makes it the fumble and not the tuck, since he wasn’t able to complete the “tuck”.
January 12th, 2013 at 4:13 pm
Those 3rd & 1 runs NEVER WORK do they JFB?
January 12th, 2013 at 4:13 pm
So the fact that Tom Brady fumbled in the infamous Tuck Bowl of 2000 was just validated today when Peyton Manning did the EXACT, and I mean EXACT, same thing that Tom Brady did, and the refs called it a fumble!smh
January 12th, 2013 at 4:13 pm
The glove is not messing with manning Dean Pees is messing up his head.
January 12th, 2013 at 4:13 pm
F8ck the Pats n broncos,
January 12th, 2013 at 4:14 pm
This is a great game, reminds me of some really good AFC battles of the past.
January 12th, 2013 at 4:14 pm
elraidmanhattan Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 4:10 pm
The tuck rule screwed us, I remember watching that game with this chick I was dating, I told her if you watch with me don’t say a damn word. When they ruled forward motion she said ” don’t worry I think the raiders will win” I told her shut up and leave.
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In other words, you’re an idiot?
Somehow, we knew.
January 12th, 2013 at 4:14 pm
Charles Woodson had the perfect answer when asked after the game about the “Tuck” play.
“BULL SH&T”
That was a classic postgame press conference answer and summed up the feelings of many in the Nation.
January 12th, 2013 at 4:14 pm
Raiders still had chances to beat Pats, n why give them time to clear the spot of FG kick?
January 12th, 2013 at 4:15 pm
Elraidmanhattan Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 4:05 pm
Raider O, Martz had crap to work with in Chicago
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Great news that Martz is interviewing
of course people are still complaining LMAO
January 12th, 2013 at 4:15 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 4:13 pm
So the fact that Tom Brady fumbled in the infamous Tuck Bowl of 2000 was just validated today when Peyton Manning did the EXACT, and I mean EXACT, same thing that Tom Brady did, and the refs called it a fumble!smh
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Actually manning was hit earlier actually in the motion of throwing. And it STILL was a fumble. Unbelievable
January 12th, 2013 at 4:15 pm
It looks like Manning is having hand problems, those neck surgeries screwed up with the nerves in his hand
January 12th, 2013 at 4:15 pm
Gruden and his conservative play calling,SMH Gannon Won the MVP after Gruden left
January 12th, 2013 at 4:15 pm
Would u rather have KNAPP right now? or martz interviewing?
if i were to ask u that week 16
January 12th, 2013 at 4:16 pm
Sorry Koolkell I can’t dissect your logic, your point moron?
January 12th, 2013 at 4:17 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 4:13 pm
So the fact that Tom Brady fumbled in the infamous Tuck Bowl of 2000 was just validated today when Peyton Manning did the EXACT, and I mean EXACT, same thing that Tom Brady did, and the refs called it a fumble!smh
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Stop with the stupid “smh”.
Someone else posted with smh, and now seems every tom dick and dumbass uses “smh”
January 12th, 2013 at 4:17 pm
If you DON’T think the Tuck Rule w BS…
You ARE NOT a member of the Nation.
January 12th, 2013 at 4:18 pm
Please Baltimore, keep running on V Miller and Dumberville, make those b1tches cry
January 12th, 2013 at 4:18 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 4:13 pm
F8ck the Pats n broncos,
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Seconded.
January 12th, 2013 at 4:18 pm
Whos blocking Suggs
January 12th, 2013 at 4:18 pm
E It would really be nice to hear back from actual die hard fans here with intelligence a bit higher than Neanderthal
January 12th, 2013 at 4:18 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 4:17 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 4:13 pm
So the fact that Tom Brady fumbled in the infamous Tuck Bowl of 2000 was just validated today when Peyton Manning did the EXACT, and I mean EXACT, same thing that Tom Brady did, and the refs called it a fumble!smh
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Stop with the stupid “smh”.
Someone else posted with smh, and now seems every tom dick and dumbass uses “smh”
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YOu have problems man, just get some help before it gets worse
January 12th, 2013 at 4:19 pm
Clady getting worked over again.
Great pass-rushers beat great O-lines.
Get me some edge rushers, and I will roll with Barnes and Veldheer for another 5 years.
January 12th, 2013 at 4:19 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 4:18 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 4:13 pm
F8ck the Pats n broncos,
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Seconded.
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N F8ck the whiners too, Packers will r@p3 them today
January 12th, 2013 at 4:19 pm
SMDH
January 12th, 2013 at 4:20 pm
Kids and their acronyms these days.
Killing the English language… smh…
January 12th, 2013 at 4:20 pm
Ray Rice up the middle and it took him three tries and KK cried
and then KK cried some more when he found out
HUE JACKSON DID NOT INTERVIEW IT WAS A LIE
haha
January 12th, 2013 at 4:20 pm
CBISMH
January 12th, 2013 at 4:20 pm
jackasspuria Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 4:20 pm
Kids and their acronyms these days.
Killing the English language… smh…
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ROFLMBIAO
January 12th, 2013 at 4:21 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 4:19 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 4:18 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 4:13 pm
F8ck the Pats n broncos,
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Seconded.
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N F8ck the whiners too, Packers will r@p3 them today
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Seconded again.
January 12th, 2013 at 4:21 pm
Jags QB coach? What has he done, Martz is lookin better already
January 12th, 2013 at 4:21 pm
VanHeathen30 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 4:17 pm
If you DON’T think the Tuck Rule w BS…
You ARE NOT a member of the Nation.
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It was BS.
It was also over a decade ago.
Can we please move the [EXPLETIVE DELETED] on now?
January 12th, 2013 at 4:22 pm
Pass rush wins you championships
just ask the Pats what happened when they faced NYG
January 12th, 2013 at 4:23 pm
How much did we give up to Denver the last time played them?
About the same as the vaunted Baltimore D, you say?
Please fix he offense.
January 12th, 2013 at 4:23 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 4:21 pm
VanHeathen30 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 4:17 pm
If you DON’T think the Tuck Rule w BS…
You ARE NOT a member of the Nation.
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It was BS.
It was also over a decade ago.
Can we please move the [EXPLETIVE DELETED] on now?
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they can’t get over 8-8 season 2 years ago , you want these guys to get over a BS call in a playoff game, in a year we had a good chance of winning the superbowl, GFLWT
January 12th, 2013 at 4:24 pm
Manning definitely shaken from these hits, Ravens can win this, but Flacco can easily blow this
January 12th, 2013 at 4:24 pm
Plunketthead Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 4:20 pm
Ray Rice up the middle and it took him three tries and KK cried
and then KK cried some more when he found out
HUE JACKSON DID NOT INTERVIEW IT WAS A LIE
haha
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ummm…………..because the Bengals want him as there OC if/when there OC gets a HC job. Sounds like he is doin the Bengals a favor, maybe he isn’t such a bad guy after all
January 12th, 2013 at 4:25 pm
J Hill Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 4:23 pm
How much did we give up to Denver the last time played them?
About the same as the vaunted Baltimore D, you say?
Please fix he offense.
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NOw only if we could have done it with natural pass rush, instead of legendary game plan by Tarver
January 12th, 2013 at 4:25 pm
Flacco freaking s8cks, Baltimore should have blown them out already if not for Special teams and Flacco
January 12th, 2013 at 4:26 pm
Interview this guy…
COACHING
Chad O’Shea was hired as the Patriots’ receivers coach on Feb. 25, 2009. He is entering his 17th coaching season and his 10th NFL season.
The Patriots wide receivers had a record-setting year in 2011. Wes Welker set a franchise record with 1,569 receiving yards and became the second player in NFL history to record a second 120-catch season, joining Cris Carter, when he caught a league-high 122 passes. Additionally, Patriots receivers aided Tom Brady to the second-most passing yards (5,235) in a single season in NFL history.
The 2010 season saw the return of one of the most prolific postseason receivers of all time to the Patriots roster. With Deion Branch back on the team, the Patriots passing game flourished, finishing second in the NFL in net yards per passing play. Under Coach O’Shea’s tutelage, Branch had a resurgent season and Wes Welker had another stellar year after successfully returning from a serious knee injury suffered late in the 2009. Welker tied for sixth in the NFL with 86 catches, earning his third straight Pro Bowl invitation.
In 2009, Wes Welker (1,348) and Randy Moss (1,264) both went over 1,000 yards receiving. Welker led the NFL with 123 receptions, while Moss tied for the NFL lead with 13 touchdown receptions.
O’Shea joined the Patriots in 2009 after spending three seasons as offensive assistant/wide receivers coach for the Minnesota Vikings (2006-08), assisting Minnesota’s offensive coordinator and the Vikings’ wide receivers coach. In 2008, Minnesota wide receiver Bernard Berrian ranked second in the NFL with an average of 20.8 yards per catch and the Vikings offense led the NFL with 13 touchdown receptions of 20 yards or longer. In 2007, the Vikings offense tied a team record with 19 plays of 50 yards or longer.
O’Shea’s first NFL experience came with the Kansas City Chiefs, where he served as a volunteer special teams assistant in 2003 and assisted with special teams and linebackers for two seasons from 2004-05. In 2003, Kansas City had an NFL-best four special teams touchdowns while leading the NFL in both kick return and punt return average. The following season, the Chiefs set a team record for kick return yards (1,820) as Dante Hall returned two kickoffs for touchdowns.
Prior to entering the NFL, O’Shea spent seven years coaching in the college ranks at his alma mater, the University of Houston (1996-99), and Southern Mississippi (2000-02). After graduation, he was a graduate assistant at Houston in 1996 and was hired as Houston’s wide receivers coach in 1997. He took over as TEs/special teams coach in 1998 and added the title of recruiting coordinator in 1999. In 2000, he began a three-year stint as Southern Mississippi’s special teams coach and recruiting coordinator. During his time with the Eagles, his units blocked 21 kicks.
January 12th, 2013 at 4:26 pm
There’s no way our receiving corps could handle Matrz’s timing offense. God, what a debacle…
January 12th, 2013 at 4:26 pm
lmao at legendary…yeah they will be talking about that gameplan for decades!
January 12th, 2013 at 4:27 pm
YUP PM is getting Crushed
))))))) SFH
January 12th, 2013 at 4:28 pm
These flags are just stupid.
Any big hit is 50/50 for a flag.
I guess at least they are consistant about it.
January 12th, 2013 at 4:28 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 4:26 pm
lmao at legendary…yeah they will be talking about that gameplan for decades!
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You gotta admit it was impressive knowing they were blitzing on every down and still pretty much contained PM, how many times can you get away with Blitzing PM every freaking down?
January 12th, 2013 at 4:28 pm
Flacco is outplaying Manning.
January 12th, 2013 at 4:29 pm
Pats WR coach? Who was the last WR the Pats drafted that did schit? All there WRs have come from FA and have already proven themselves before goin there. The TE coach on the other hand………..
January 12th, 2013 at 4:30 pm
Is it just me or does Dan Dierdorf have Manning’s nutsack on lockdown?
January 12th, 2013 at 4:30 pm
You need guys who can get open and find spaces, small 3 or 4 yard gains is all you need, in this age when secondary can’t bump receivers, and eventually they will turn into big time gains
January 12th, 2013 at 4:30 pm
baloney…
January 12th, 2013 at 4:31 pm
no dog in this race…really dont care who wins…
kind of hope Ray Lewis stays in it and gets a shot at on more ring
January 12th, 2013 at 4:31 pm
Downsouthraider Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 4:30 pm
Is it just me or does Dan Dierdorf have Manning’s nutsack on lockdown?
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It is not you.
January 12th, 2013 at 4:32 pm
realtruraider Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 4:29 pm
Pats WR coach? Who was the last WR the Pats drafted that did schit? All there WRs have come from FA and have already proven themselves before goin there. The TE coach on the other hand………..
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Last WR they drafted high was Chad Jackson (who turned into a bust) about 8 years ago
January 12th, 2013 at 4:32 pm
elraidmanhattan Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 3:57 pm
DJ you make some rational points, I am just emotionally drained from the incompetence of the organization. The fact is Reggie let DA hire Knapp, and change the scheme, so things can be righted now, and Martz would be good, but I still am dumbfounded by what occurred this year, how do you take a good offense and dismantle it?
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I know. It’s never good to have a “throwaway” season like this. Nobody just throws away a season anymore.
Martz could be good. Better than Knapp I have no doubt.
January 12th, 2013 at 4:33 pm
It’s just you.
January 12th, 2013 at 4:33 pm
Ravens just worn down 68th play of Denver to Baltimore’s 44
fatigue up in Invesco
January 12th, 2013 at 4:33 pm
Looks like Den will advance, oh well , they aren’t beating Houston, both Pats and Houston use 3-4 that’s whats been PMs achilles heal
January 12th, 2013 at 4:34 pm
That little short screen to Thomas has been working to perfection for the Broncos.
Denver runs that play every game and teams just haven’t caught on to it yet.
January 12th, 2013 at 4:35 pm
Last Baltimore drive, Boldin was wide open on that route, Flacco s8cks really bad
January 12th, 2013 at 4:35 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 4:23 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 4:21 pm
VanHeathen30 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 4:17 pm
If you DON’T think the Tuck Rule w BS…
You ARE NOT a member of the Nation.
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It was BS.
It was also over a decade ago.
Can we please move the [EXPLETIVE DELETED] on now?
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they can’t get over 8-8 season 2 years ago , you want these guys to get over a BS call in a playoff game, in a year we had a good chance of winning the superbowl, GFLWT
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that ship has sailed
have to get over that…..soon
January 12th, 2013 at 4:35 pm
realtru
I am messing with kk don’t steal my joy
January 12th, 2013 at 4:36 pm
jackasspuria Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 4:34 pm
That little short screen to Thomas has been working to perfection for the Broncos.
Denver runs that play every game and teams just haven’t caught on to it yet.
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It was a perfect call at perfect time, tired D, csn’t stop run, can’t stop short passing, they dialed blitzes so perfect call at perfect time
January 12th, 2013 at 4:37 pm
DEN isn’t really that good, barely beating Balt thanks to special teams, and Flacco, that with 2 weeks Rest
January 12th, 2013 at 4:39 pm
on the other hand both Harbaugh brothers could be out of the playoffs on same day again
January 12th, 2013 at 4:40 pm
From the side, doesn’t Joe Flacco kind of look like Dennis from Alway’s Sunny in Philadelphia?
January 12th, 2013 at 4:40 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 4:28 pm
These flags are just stupid.
Any big hit is 50/50 for a flag.
I guess at least they are consistant about it.
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I agree that it’s stupid and that it’s just 50/50.
Consistent it aint.
January 12th, 2013 at 4:40 pm
Baltimore play caller has to be G Knapp, just cuz run plays in a row worked once, he keeps on dialing the runs
January 12th, 2013 at 4:41 pm
That was a big boy throw there.
Flacco is going to give them a run for it, he is a very good QB.
January 12th, 2013 at 4:41 pm
Boldin is a freakin beast
January 12th, 2013 at 4:41 pm
Mcfadden20
Haha!
Are you comparing Jim Caldwell to Gregory Knapp!?
Classic!
January 12th, 2013 at 4:42 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 4:41 pm
That was a big boy throw there.
Flacco is going to give them a run for it, he is a very good QB.
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Yeah but he also missed wide open hookups a few times, last Baltimore drive, he could have led baltimore to TD but threw ahead of Boldin and the takes over n gives up the TD
January 12th, 2013 at 4:43 pm
Boudin making it look like he’s playing against his little brother.
January 12th, 2013 at 4:43 pm
jackasspuria Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 4:41 pm
Mcfadden20
Haha!
Are you comparing Jim Caldwell to Gregory Knapp!?
Classic!
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Yeah 2 straigh runs, just cuz they worked on that 1 TD drive, luckily they converted on 3rd n 7
January 12th, 2013 at 4:43 pm
Flacco outplayed Brady last year in the AFC championship. It’s all about if the defense can hold Manning.
January 12th, 2013 at 4:45 pm
Mcfadden20
Jim Caldwell was labeled offensive genius because of all his years in Indy. But, he had Peyton Manning slinging the ball around.
Bring in a subpar/utterly bad QB and Caldwell’s true genius is shown.
Never thought he was a grand play caller, but, he’s made out to be one.
January 12th, 2013 at 4:45 pm
Flacco is on the road, in 10 degree weather, against a fierce pass rush.
Holding himself very well so far, IMO.
January 12th, 2013 at 4:45 pm
And the subpar/utterly bad QB I was referring to was the guys put under center in Indy before Luck was drafted.
January 12th, 2013 at 4:46 pm
wow dropped an easy first down, flacco threw behind him
January 12th, 2013 at 4:46 pm
Jacoby Jones… for all his complaining about being used as a legit option as a wide receiver… that is why you’re not a every down wide out… drop, drop, drop…
January 12th, 2013 at 4:47 pm
That’s on he receiver, plain and simple….
January 12th, 2013 at 4:48 pm
INdy never had any backup plan incase of PM injury, they weren’t really that bad as proven this year with a decent QB
January 12th, 2013 at 4:48 pm
Perfect throw, great defensive play.
January 12th, 2013 at 4:49 pm
If NE plays Denver, Brady will slice up Denver’s defense.
January 12th, 2013 at 4:50 pm
that was a great D play, but both Flacco and Jones could have done a better job on that 3rd down
January 12th, 2013 at 4:50 pm
Whats up Nation. Really wish the Ravens would’ve pulled this out. I know they embarassed us in baltimore. But that’s not on them, that’s on us. Respect is earned, and we simply haven’t earned it. Teams will continue to destroy us until we stop letting it happen. IMO, firing Knapp was a move in the right direction. DA made a huge mistake, let’s hope he learns from it. Firing knapp, hoffman, and the o-line coach is the first move DA has made that makes me think maybe he can salvage his career as a HC.
January 12th, 2013 at 4:51 pm
Baltimore is tired, need to revamp that D next year, too old
January 12th, 2013 at 4:52 pm
Chico,
Ronnie Hillman is an Azrec.
January 12th, 2013 at 4:52 pm
Flacco’s last two passes hit the receivers right in the hands.
January 12th, 2013 at 4:52 pm
Mike Martz would be an excellent hire for OC for the Raiders, Mike Wallace would seriously consider signing as FA with us now.
January 12th, 2013 at 4:54 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 4:52 pm
Flacco’s last two passes hit the receivers right in the hands.
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YUP they did, but they could have been hit the right spot, J Jones had to turn back to catch it instead of in stride, no doubt Jones should have caught but still it’s 15 Degrees etc, etc
January 12th, 2013 at 4:54 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 4:52 pm
Mike Martz would be an excellent hire for OC for the Raiders, Mike Wallace would seriously consider signing as FA with us now.
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No thanks to MIke Wallace, just a head case, D BOWE or G Jennings
January 12th, 2013 at 4:56 pm
Who are some FA corners we could land this offseason? Have seen a lot of talk about who we sign and who we draft, but we NEED to have at least one pro caliber starting corner on this defense, or it will be more of the same in 2013.
January 12th, 2013 at 4:56 pm
D BOWE – Streater- DHB/MOORE pretty good 3 wr set
January 12th, 2013 at 4:56 pm
LMAO! RaiderDuck telling us not to whine about the Snow Job. Fu**ing redcoat…Loves his slavery.
January 12th, 2013 at 4:56 pm
YUP they did, but they could have been hit the right spot it.
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If it hits you in the hands, you’re supposed to catch it.
January 12th, 2013 at 4:56 pm
VaRaiderNation Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 4:56 pm
Who are some FA corners we could land this offseason? Have seen a lot of talk about who we sign and who we draft, but we NEED to have at least one pro caliber starting corner on this defense, or it will be more of the same in 2013.
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Grimer?
January 12th, 2013 at 4:57 pm
I hope they get some kinda miracle here, n pull it out in OT
January 12th, 2013 at 4:58 pm
VaRaiderNation Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 4:56 pm
Who are some FA corners we could land this offseason? Have seen a lot of talk about who we sign and who we draft, but we NEED to have at least one pro caliber starting corner on this defense, or it will be more of the same in 2013.
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Grimer?
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Rodgers-Cromartie
January 12th, 2013 at 4:58 pm
Great game!!
January 12th, 2013 at 4:58 pm
ED REED might retire too
January 12th, 2013 at 4:59 pm
Just think what Martz could do with Streater, Moore, McFadden, Reece, Taiwan Jones, AND Pryor! That’s right. You heard correctly. You’ll see, you’ll be sorry.
January 12th, 2013 at 4:59 pm
Devilr8er
Sean Smith is a big cover guy that could prove helpful with all the big wide receivers in the AFC West.
Dolpins don’t appear to want to lock him down with a long-term deal.
January 12th, 2013 at 4:59 pm
Mc20-if those passes were thrown by CP you’d be all over the receivers-and rightfully so!
January 12th, 2013 at 4:59 pm
stupid move by flacco
January 12th, 2013 at 5:00 pm
OMFG HHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
January 12th, 2013 at 5:00 pm
WOW!!!!!!
January 12th, 2013 at 5:00 pm
Flacco!!!!!
January 12th, 2013 at 5:00 pm
GREAT GAME!!
WOW
January 12th, 2013 at 5:00 pm
WOW miracle
January 12th, 2013 at 5:00 pm
Holy Shet
January 12th, 2013 at 5:00 pm
STFU, Dungver fan!
January 12th, 2013 at 5:00 pm
wow…unbelievable!!!
January 12th, 2013 at 5:00 pm
HELL YEAH!!!!
January 12th, 2013 at 5:00 pm
The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 4:56 pm
LMAO! RaiderDuck telling us not to whine about the Snow Job. Fu**ing redcoat…Loves his slavery.
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Yes, because whining over ancient history does SO much good…
January 12th, 2013 at 5:00 pm
What if Jones had dropped that pass? LMFAO
January 12th, 2013 at 5:00 pm
Dam!!!!!!
January 12th, 2013 at 5:01 pm
“Deep Ball”
January 12th, 2013 at 5:02 pm
Flacco just made $100 Million on that throw!
January 12th, 2013 at 5:02 pm
No one else? Maybe we could trade down and get the kid from FSU mid to late 1st, drawing a blank on his name right now. I’m telling you we have to shore up that position. I agree we need a pash rusher. But if we cant cover it wont matter. Cant sack the qb on every down.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:02 pm
lefty12 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 4:59 pm
Mc20-if those passes were thrown by CP you’d be all over the receivers-and rightfully so!
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Let’s just say they both could done better jobs
January 12th, 2013 at 5:02 pm
Wow! That was great!
January 12th, 2013 at 5:02 pm
Can the Ravens cover a kickoff???
January 12th, 2013 at 5:02 pm
I saw Chuck Bresnahan sighting on Den sideline
January 12th, 2013 at 5:02 pm
#26 didn’t go to CF school apparently.
I swear, these deep safeties would benefit greatly by going to an outfield camp for a weekend to learn how to track the ball in the air.
Can’t run with your head way up like that.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:03 pm
VaRaiderNation
If McKenzie does trade down, Dee Milliner in the first round would be nice. But, he might be gone depending on how far the Raiders go down.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:03 pm
Good job Baltimore Kicker
January 12th, 2013 at 5:03 pm
Love it! C’mon Baltimore
January 12th, 2013 at 5:03 pm
Arm strength folks. Any questions??
January 12th, 2013 at 5:03 pm
was that like a 60 or 70 yard throw?
January 12th, 2013 at 5:04 pm
Never let it be said only the Raiders play a poor secondary game!!!!!!!
January 12th, 2013 at 5:04 pm
Denver is scared!
January 12th, 2013 at 5:04 pm
What if Jones had dropped that pass? LMFAO
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Ray might have shived him.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:04 pm
Down with the donks…awesome.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:04 pm
wow Russell would have probably underthrown that by 20 yards or he might have tripped over his own shoelaces
January 12th, 2013 at 5:04 pm
Man!
Is that No. 26 Moore from UCLA?
Wow. When a safety is backpedaling like that, only bad things can happen.
If he had instead turned and ran, Moore could have had a pick, at worst, a pass deflection.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:04 pm
OMFG HHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAWOW!!!!!!
Flacco!!!!!
GREAT GAME!!
WOWWOW miracleJ
Holy Shet
January 12th, 2013 at 5:05 pm
Come on Baltimore win the toss
January 12th, 2013 at 5:05 pm
I didn’t have anything else to add!
January 12th, 2013 at 5:06 pm
Flacco evaded a rush and threw it 60 yards in the air in 10 degree weather, perfectly thrown.
That was one of the best passes in NFL playoff history.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:06 pm
YES< Baltimore won the toss, please run all over DUMBERVILLE and V MILLER, hahaha DENVER fans will never forget this LMFAO
January 12th, 2013 at 5:06 pm
Flacco can throw the damn ball.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:07 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 5:06 pm
Flacco evaded a rush and threw it 60 yards in the air in 10 degree weather, perfectly thrown.
That was one of the best passes in NFL playoff history.
— YUP, awesome throw, DEN fans will talk about that alll offseason , awesome, i freakin love it , i want some green now lol
January 12th, 2013 at 5:07 pm
I really hope they can pull this out. Denver’s fans have been beyond cocky this year. Especially this week.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:07 pm
If he had instead turned and ran, Moore could have had a pick, at worst, a pass deflection.
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Turn and run, OF school 101.
Back-pedaling makes you SMALLER as you often can’t get your legs under you to even jump.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:08 pm
Even if Baltimore wins, i don’t see them beating Houston or Pats, they are too old on D, and can’t put pressure on qbs, oh well let’s hope Houston beats Pats, then i won’t care who really wins
January 12th, 2013 at 5:08 pm
I don’t see any Donkeys fans doing the Gangnam dance anymore.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:09 pm
morilla Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 5:07 pm
I really hope they can pull this out. Denver’s fans have been beyond cocky this year. Especially this week.
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I want to see them cry , and epic fail youtube video
January 12th, 2013 at 5:10 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
What if Jones had dropped that pass? LMFAO
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They’d call him DHBJ.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:10 pm
I don’t know why Flacco didn’t run with that ball instead of throwing it.The field was wide open in front of him.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:11 pm
HHHHAHAHAHAHAHAH @ DEN
January 12th, 2013 at 5:11 pm
will there be enough donkey tears to flood invesco if bmore gets this done? i hope so
January 12th, 2013 at 5:11 pm
I take it back. I do like DHB but in the same situation with him my heart would’ve been in my throat.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:11 pm
lefty12 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 5:10 pm
I don’t know why Flacco didn’t run with that ball instead of throwing it.The field was wide open in front of him.
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LMFAO
January 12th, 2013 at 5:13 pm
Boldin is a freakin beast, i hope that catch holds up
January 12th, 2013 at 5:13 pm
Well, there gonna screw the ravens.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:14 pm
I hope somehow that holds up , and they go onto and score the TD
January 12th, 2013 at 5:15 pm
F*KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
January 12th, 2013 at 5:15 pm
These announcers rooting for Broncos?
January 12th, 2013 at 5:15 pm
come on , play stands, let Baltimore wins
January 12th, 2013 at 5:15 pm
This has been a mess of a game for officiating.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:16 pm
YES HAHAHAHHAHAHA LMFAO HAHAHAH LMFAO HAHAHA DEN FANS ARE CRYING
January 12th, 2013 at 5:16 pm
0 for 2 Dierdorf.
Just pipe down already
January 12th, 2013 at 5:16 pm
Good call ref
January 12th, 2013 at 5:16 pm
They wanted to give that fumble back to Payton too.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:16 pm
These announcers have had mannings cock in their mouths all game
January 12th, 2013 at 5:16 pm
RICE had some cut back lanes that could have let him get open in the field
January 12th, 2013 at 5:17 pm
If Martz is being considered for the vacant OC position they will be going for an OT early in the draft.
Martz is known for “burdening” his OL with five & seven step drops, heaping protection responsibilities on the aforementioned OL.
Remember, when the Lambs were known as “the greatest show on turf” Orlando Pace was their LOT. . .
Anything else would be uncivilized. . .
January 12th, 2013 at 5:17 pm
They should have-tuck rule.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:17 pm
DIEDORF is choking on PM’s D
January 12th, 2013 at 5:17 pm
They need to get Rice on the outside.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:17 pm
Get that secondary nervous.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:18 pm
ahahahahaha… Bailey
January 12th, 2013 at 5:18 pm
actually he’s choking on the whole Dens Ds D
January 12th, 2013 at 5:18 pm
Seabass field goal range!
January 12th, 2013 at 5:19 pm
Keep running on them punks, RICE Need to stiff arm that phaggot Bailey
January 12th, 2013 at 5:19 pm
69 yds. Put me in coach.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:19 pm
366.Just Fire Baby Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 5:16 pm
0 for 2 Dierdorf.
Just pipe down already
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The worst color commentator in sports, bar none, The guy is so in love with his own voice it’s ridiculous.
Somebody at CBS needs to wise up and relegate him to AFC South broadcasts only, or something. Just can’t stand the constant pontificating.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:19 pm
FG doesn’t end the game, Baltimore needs to score a TD
January 12th, 2013 at 5:19 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 5:15 pm
These announcers rooting for Broncos?
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They are rooting for the Peytons.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:20 pm
DEL RIO S8cks hahahaha
January 12th, 2013 at 5:20 pm
Screen to Rice already, c’mon!!
January 12th, 2013 at 5:20 pm
Come on get G Knapp out of the booth, dial up some real plays
January 12th, 2013 at 5:20 pm
Caldwell turned into knapp
January 12th, 2013 at 5:21 pm
I get the same feeling, these announcers are Denver poll jocking
January 12th, 2013 at 5:21 pm
F8king flacco held onto it too long
January 12th, 2013 at 5:22 pm
Dam, there goes the game.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:22 pm
Dierdorf just said either a run or pass will work on 3rd and 2. Thank god for announcers.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:22 pm
Get a to
January 12th, 2013 at 5:23 pm
That was really stupid play calling, Knapp needs to be fired , they had their D all the ways in DENvers throat, could have just ended it on first drive
January 12th, 2013 at 5:23 pm
IT will be awesome if PM throws a game ending INT HAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
January 12th, 2013 at 5:23 pm
urvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 5:22 pm
Dierdorf just said either a run or pass will work on 3rd and 2. Thank god for announcers.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA-Harrey Carey
January 12th, 2013 at 5:24 pm
Diedorfs throat must b super tired by now
January 12th, 2013 at 5:24 pm
Stokley got away with a hold
January 12th, 2013 at 5:24 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 5:24 pm
Diedorfs throat must b super tired by now
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n i don’t mean by talking too much
January 12th, 2013 at 5:25 pm
da trinity Says:
Dam, there goes the game.
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You are a pessimist, aren’t you?
January 12th, 2013 at 5:25 pm
No evidence to overturn it, but atleast it will give that Baltimore D some rest
January 12th, 2013 at 5:26 pm
White boys sure know how to catch.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:27 pm
PM gives Dierdorf reach arounds
January 12th, 2013 at 5:28 pm
Baltimore D really s8cks
January 12th, 2013 at 5:29 pm
3rd and 1 runs Kool Kell?
January 12th, 2013 at 5:29 pm
YES HAHAHA SHORT, HAHHAHAHAHA, punt return for TD Please
January 12th, 2013 at 5:29 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 5:28 pm
Baltimore D really s8cks
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They’ve been on the field a good part of the game. Old and tired.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:29 pm
ED REED for TD
January 12th, 2013 at 5:30 pm
morilla Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 5:29 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 5:28 pm
Baltimore D really s8cks
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They’ve been on the field a good part of the game. Old and tired.
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HAHAHA 7-0 GB
January 12th, 2013 at 5:30 pm
Pick 6 on Kapp. Ooops.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:30 pm
Kapy is getting exposed today, seen that coming from a mile away.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:30 pm
7-0 GB HAHAHHAHAHA, They going Down lol
January 12th, 2013 at 5:31 pm
Caldwell sucks as an oc
January 12th, 2013 at 5:32 pm
Field position game now, and wow, all plays to the left have been bummers for B. today.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:32 pm
M1st1c is laying all his hopes on Kapp and Wilson, Kapp looks like won’t go too far , wilsons status is up in the air
January 12th, 2013 at 5:33 pm
F8ckin s8cks man, Baltimore OC really s8ckks, they giving Den too much credit, come on if you been beating them deep all game long
January 12th, 2013 at 5:33 pm
HAHA YES
January 12th, 2013 at 5:33 pm
Flacco has a serious pair
January 12th, 2013 at 5:33 pm
CLutch fukin throw
January 12th, 2013 at 5:33 pm
money
January 12th, 2013 at 5:34 pm
Helluva game
January 12th, 2013 at 5:34 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 5:32 pm
M1st1c is laying all his hopes on Kapp and Wilson, Kapp looks like won’t go too far , wilsons status is up in the air
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Neither of those teams can hang with GB.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:35 pm
edward teach Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 5:19 pm
366.Just Fire Baby Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 5:16 pm
0 for 2 Dierdorf.
Just pipe down already
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The worst color commentator in sports, bar none, The guy is so in love with his own voice it’s ridiculous.
Somebody at CBS needs to wise up and relegate him to AFC South broadcasts only, or something. Just can’t stand the constant pontificating.
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The late great Jim Healy on his sports radio 1/2 hour show, used to call him “Dierdork”, or the “Dorkster”. Back in the 80’s when the “Dorkster” did MNF. Funny…
January 12th, 2013 at 5:36 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 5:32 pm
M1st1c is laying all his hopes on Kapp and Wilson, Kapp looks like won’t go too far , wilsons status is up in the air
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Who cares?Get him out of your head.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:36 pm
Good job Jimmy SMITH
January 12th, 2013 at 5:36 pm
So much for those 2 return TDs lol
January 12th, 2013 at 5:36 pm
Very suprised neither team is running any misdirection, reverses, screens, etc with these tired azz defenses.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:37 pm
Whatever happened to going deep and picking on Bailey? Try it again.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:37 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 5:36 pm
Very suprised neither team is running any misdirection, reverses, screens, etc with these tired azz defenses.
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YEAH kinda stupid , playing too conservative
January 12th, 2013 at 5:39 pm
CBS should have never let color commentator Gus Johnson. Gus is now with FOX.
Gus-gasms were the best. If you don’t know what I mean, Youtube it.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:39 pm
You want them to run reverses inside their 20s?
January 12th, 2013 at 5:39 pm
I mean to add a go to the end of the first sentence about Gus Johnson. Typo.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:40 pm
Gus Johnson is my fav by far.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:41 pm
yes intercepted baby
January 12th, 2013 at 5:41 pm
There it is !!!!!!
January 12th, 2013 at 5:41 pm
hahahah so much for the 18 M acquistion
January 12th, 2013 at 5:42 pm
Flacco has massively outplayed Peyton today.
Not even a debate who was the better QB today and moving forward.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:42 pm
PM did that against us too
January 12th, 2013 at 5:42 pm
hopefully Baltimore’s G Knapp can get his head out of his ass
January 12th, 2013 at 5:43 pm
So, after all that, we finally get a name and its Mike Martz?
Seriously, Dennis and Reggie are garbage. Most of us fans can make better decisions than these guys.
Sorry Raiders fans, we are gonna suck as long as these clueless clowns are in charge.
Reggie is not a “creative, think outside the box” GM. He is showing to be pretty dumb actually, and someone who is stuck in the mold of what he has seen others do, instead of being someone to find new ways of problem solving.
We have a junk GM and junk HC.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:44 pm
Booty, their guys are busy coaching games right now. They are killing time.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:45 pm
COLD BLOODED!Gus Johnson at his best
January 12th, 2013 at 5:46 pm
stupid, they need to get more yards, you going to try 40+ yard FG?
January 12th, 2013 at 5:46 pm
what a bunch of sh!t…
January 12th, 2013 at 5:47 pm
Oh. My. God.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:47 pm
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHA
January 12th, 2013 at 5:47 pm
YEAH!
January 12th, 2013 at 5:47 pm
Haha!!!! Sh1t yeah! Go home Martian head! Suck it, Denver!
January 12th, 2013 at 5:47 pm
LMFAOOO HAHAHAHAH
January 12th, 2013 at 5:48 pm
LOOK AT THOSE DEN FANS
January 12th, 2013 at 5:48 pm
It will be painful rooting for NE next week.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:48 pm
The GYMP and Horseface can suck on that all winter…
NOICE Job Baltimore!
January 12th, 2013 at 5:49 pm
lefty12 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 5:48 pm
It will be painful rooting for NE next week.
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WHY would you root for them?
January 12th, 2013 at 5:49 pm
Morilla Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 5:44 pm
Booty, their guys are busy coaching games right now. They are killing time.
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Ah, so theyre sitting on their hands for guys that may or may not end up wanting to come here in the first place, rather than actually GETTING TO WORK AT WHAT THEIR JOBS ARE? Sounds smart to me.
Thats not how you get things done. Not pro active people at least. Thats the way losers think. Thats the mentality of followers and yes men, not creative winners.
Reggie is a joke. He picked a joke head coach, who picked a joke staff, and now they are continuing to show that they are in over their heads.
We should get some guys that can handle the job, not gonna happen though. Raiders gonna suck for a few years thanks to these morons.
Reggie and Dennis. Ha, extremely unimpressed.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:49 pm
SWEET!!!!!!
Just need the Cheatriots to lose….
January 12th, 2013 at 5:49 pm
Boom. Martian Head AND the Broncos.
I wish it was us that did it, but I’ll take it.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:49 pm
GOOD JOB BALTIMORE I LOVE YOU GUYS , EVEN IF YOU GUYS WHOOPED OUR ASS IN REG SEASON
January 12th, 2013 at 5:49 pm
Dierdorf sucking off Peyton ALL DAY. How sweet is this?!
January 12th, 2013 at 5:50 pm
Mc20-because I don’t want Lewis or a Harbaugh near the SB.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:50 pm
Reggie and Dennis. Ha, extremely unimpressed.
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Shocking.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:50 pm
I rooted for Manning when he wasn’t a Donkey. Still, a great qb. One bad throw, but a D that didn’t do the job.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:50 pm
Damn. One of the best playoff games ever. Thank you Baltimore.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:51 pm
Peyton Manning took Denver no further than Tebow did.
Rockstar called it!!!!!
January 12th, 2013 at 5:51 pm
Now, if GB could upset the Niners, I’d go to bed happy.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:51 pm
Finally, someone worth watching this year.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:51 pm
The whiner are running all over GB
January 12th, 2013 at 5:52 pm
Great game in mile low
Kapernik can fly when he takes off
Now if the boots can beat brady we wont have to hear anymore of espns favorite metrosexuals brady and p[eyton
January 12th, 2013 at 5:52 pm
John David Booty
Just curious, which candidates for OC would gain your interest, approval?
For myself, anyone is better than Greg Knapp.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:52 pm
Now I only need the Patriots to lose and I can enjoy a stress free Superbowl.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:52 pm
The Big Banana Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 5:49 pm
Dierdorf sucking off Peyton ALL DAY. How sweet is this?!
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It was really disgusting how he was clearly rooting for the Broncos. Smitten over every positive play they made, finding ways to justify bad calls against the Ravens. I swear, they pay the biggest @ssholes to say a bunch of nothing on TV. I see much better commentary in forums and blogs than I do coming out of the mouths of most of the so called “experts” and analysts.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:52 pm
Lots of big plays, but none so big as Flacco throwing on 3 down in late first OT to get them out of their own territory deep.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:53 pm
Peyton is under .500 in his postseason career, and today he had 3 killer turnovers.
If he didn’t win that SB, he would be in A-Rod categories.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:53 pm
lefty12 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 5:50 pm
Mc20-because I don’t want Lewis or a Harbaugh near the SB.
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Root for Houston tomorrow and next week
January 12th, 2013 at 5:54 pm
Lefty12 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 5:48 pm
It will be painful rooting for NE next week.
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Siragusa is no longer with them. It’s ok. Meanwhile, Brady and Billicheat still in NE.
I will root for the Ravens.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:54 pm
Jackasspuria Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 5:52 pm
John David Booty
Just curious, which candidates for OC would gain your interest, approval?
For myself, anyone is better than Greg Knapp.
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The same thing was said about Chuck Bresnahan a year ago….At least Pryor is 50/50 about getting his shot according to this…
Oakland Raiders News @RaiderNewsFlash
SOURCE: McKenzie is heavily considering cutting Palmer it’s 50/50 right now. Decision could happen sooner than later
January 12th, 2013 at 5:54 pm
What you guys drinking? Im having Crown n coke
January 12th, 2013 at 5:54 pm
Wonderful! The stupid donkeys are out! However, I still don’t have a clue about what answers the Raiders have for defeating “Martian head” Manning and his team. Mike Martz will be a huge improvement as OC. Maybe we can find a decent OC after the Superbowl. As of now, the Raiders are a mess.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:55 pm
Mc20-I am but I don’t think they have a chance in hell.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:55 pm
Even Tim Tebow won the first playoff game of his career for Denver, Colorado.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:55 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 5:51 pm
Peyton Manning took Denver no further than Tebow did.
Rockstar called it!!!!!
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That’s a fact.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:56 pm
I think Houston will knock Pats off, Houston finally puts together a great D plan and play D like they were playing earlier in the year, Foster would run all over the pats
January 12th, 2013 at 5:56 pm
The_Civilian_James_Trapp
If I were McKenzie, I would wait and see if Hubris lands a OC job somewhere.
Then, maybe he can sucker Hubris and said team to offer a draft pick for Palmer.
In all seriousness, if Raiders really want a reboot, Palmer should go and Pryor should run the show.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:56 pm
Peyton Manning took Denver no further than Tebow did_________________________________________
To my way of thinking Denver needs to lose another 10 years of chances for the Super Bowl to pay penance for the refs “no fumble” call on the Rob Littel fumble. (I don’t remember how to spell his name.)
Damn refs.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:56 pm
Banana-it isn’t that fat slob-its Lewis and Harbaugh.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:57 pm
DEN s8cked, if not for those huge kick returns and Flacco M1ssin sum wide open targets , they would have gotten blown out
January 12th, 2013 at 5:58 pm
What would Reggie gain by cutting Palmer right now?
Isn’t CP’s cap hit higher if we cut him?
January 12th, 2013 at 5:59 pm
Got ya, Lefty. Don’t care for them myself…but there is not a pair I dislike worse than Bill the cheat and his pet QB.
January 12th, 2013 at 5:59 pm
I like the way DEN lost hahaha, game tying TD with 31 seconds left then int by PM to put Baltimore in FG range hahaha awesome
January 12th, 2013 at 5:59 pm
That Bronco safety, No. 26 Moore, will be the goat when they watch film on this loss.
His backpedaling stumble and desperation grab towards the ball that ended up the game-tying touchdown from Flacco to Jacoby Jones is in the “What Not to Do” category of pass defense.
January 12th, 2013 at 6:00 pm
Wonderful! The stupid donkeys are out! However, I still don’t have a clue about what answers the Raiders have for defeating “Martian head” Manning and his team. Mike Martz will be a huge improvement as OC. Maybe we can find a decent OC after the Superbowl. As of now, the Raiders are a mess.
You need a D with heart and, as the announcers and Lewis have said, a D that confuses him at times. Raider D’s have not confused anyone in…forever. In fact, even when we had great teams, we didn’t confuse or try to confuse on D. We relied on superior athletes.
Quarterbacking and coaching and the ability of the coaches to signal in plays to the qb, the development of using instant photos of defensive sets, all have given the best of the qbs and the best of coaching staffs the ability to beat any defense. Thus, to beat a Manning, you have to confuse and to confuse you have to have a D capable of multiple and complex looks.
January 12th, 2013 at 6:00 pm
WHINERS FANS S*CKKK, LOL playoff game barely no noise
January 12th, 2013 at 6:01 pm
Wow, we’re seeing some good receiver play today.
January 12th, 2013 at 6:01 pm
I don’t mind either of the Harbaugh brothers.
In fact I wanted Al to hire one of them to coach the Raiders when he left Stanford.
Lewis is a different story.
January 12th, 2013 at 6:01 pm
Peyton’s 3 TD’s might be as bad as the safety play…
Pick 6 early got Balt. Back in biz early.
January 12th, 2013 at 6:02 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:01 pm
I don’t mind either of the Harbaugh brothers.
In fact I wanted Al to hire one of them to coach the Raiders when he left Stanford.
Lewis is a different story.
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I was on that train too.
January 12th, 2013 at 6:03 pm
Packers came to play, GB found their rb J Harris
January 12th, 2013 at 6:03 pm
Allen sheading donkey tears
January 12th, 2013 at 6:04 pm
PM is a goathead also.
He could only manage three TD’s in 5 quarters of football
January 12th, 2013 at 6:04 pm
Oakland Raiders News @RaiderNewsFlash
SOURCE: McKenzie is heavily considering cutting Palmer it’s 50/50 right now. Decision could happen sooner than later
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I doubt VERY seriously that, if the Raiders are talking to Mike Martz, they are thinking about cutting Carson Palmer.
If anyone gets cut under Martz it would be Pryor. Not recommending it, but Palmer is a MUCH better fit for what Martz does than Pryor is (now).
January 12th, 2013 at 6:04 pm
Just think, Aaron Rodgers played in our backyard and we didn’t take him.
Hey, I’ve been wondering if Tedford has been under any consideration for OC. Cal’s academic standards are a real handicap to a coach developing a sturdy program there. Until they got their stadium and locker room, workout rooms updated, they had nothing to show recruits.
January 12th, 2013 at 6:04 pm
DEN down, SF on their way to fishing, Pats will be done tomorrow
January 12th, 2013 at 6:05 pm
Hell yeah tired of Bronco fans talking #@$!. Raiders all day!
January 12th, 2013 at 6:05 pm
best weekend ever lol
January 12th, 2013 at 6:05 pm
Edward Teach Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:04 pm
Oakland Raiders News @RaiderNewsFlash
SOURCE: McKenzie is heavily considering cutting Palmer it’s 50/50 right now. Decision could happen sooner than later
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I doubt VERY seriously that, if the Raiders are talking to Mike Martz, they are thinking about cutting Carson Palmer.
If anyone gets cut under Martz it would be Pryor. Not recommending it, but Palmer is a MUCH better fit for what Martz does than Pryor is (now).
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Don’t pay attention to that handle. It’s a sham.
January 12th, 2013 at 6:06 pm
That was probably PM’s last hurrah. He will be less effective next year and thereafter.
TP will make PM look like a rookie next year!!
January 12th, 2013 at 6:06 pm
Jackasspuria Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 5:56 pm
The_Civilian_James_Trapp
If I were McKenzie, I would wait and see if Hubris lands a OC job somewhere.
Then, maybe he can sucker Hubris and said team to offer a draft pick for Palmer.
In all seriousness, if Raiders really want a reboot, Palmer should go and Pryor should run the show.
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You think Hue will help Reggie? He will ask for peanuts for Carson…I’m still waiting to read that we’re gonna interview Hue for OC.
January 12th, 2013 at 6:06 pm
Whiners will go down n they will go down hard, I’m thinking GB win by atleast 3 TDS
January 12th, 2013 at 6:07 pm
Dierdorf is bad, but Joe Buck is as bad as_ any_ have_ ever_ been. The guy is nothing but cliches in baseball and football. Talk about “metrosexual.”
January 12th, 2013 at 6:07 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 2:57 pm
Mike Martz is the most depressing thing I’ve heard since Greg Knapp.
DA has got to go.
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Shut the fuk up… you dumb fukin beetch!!
Your a fukin idiot!
Martz would be the next best thing to getting Hue!
Stupida biatch!
January 12th, 2013 at 6:07 pm
Edward Teach Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:04 pm
Oakland Raiders News @RaiderNewsFlash
SOURCE: McKenzie is heavily considering cutting Palmer it’s 50/50 right now. Decision could happen sooner than later
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I doubt VERY seriously that, if the Raiders are talking to Mike Martz, they are thinking about cutting Carson Palmer.
If anyone gets cut under Martz it would be Pryor. Not recommending it, but Palmer is a MUCH better fit for what Martz does than Pryor is (now).
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They should cut Palmer
January 12th, 2013 at 6:07 pm
How my ass tastes broncos fans
- Tebow
January 12th, 2013 at 6:07 pm
Jackasspuria Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 5:52 pm
John David Booty
Just curious, which candidates for OC would gain your interest, approval?
For myself, anyone is better than Greg Knapp.
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Theres actually a lot of guys I like out there, some who have already been hired. But I can make a post of candidates that I think would work well for our team. Im moreso dissapointed in the fact that the offense sucks horribly all season, we all wait to hear something about someone else being hired, and when we finally do, its Mike Martz of all people. Theres a reason Mike Martz was not on ANYONES radar, despite the fact several teams are looking to upgrade their O. He just isnt in touch with todays game and players and is a very difficult person to get along with. His is another offense known to take “years” to implement, which is why hes been let go from his last 3 Offensive coordinator positions.
I hear what your saying about Knapp, but if theres any one guy in NFL circles who is Knapp #2, its Mike Martz, and Reggie and DA decided THIS is the guy they wanted to interview first? Mike Martz is actually EXACTLY the type of name I should of expected from these guys. Another name thats been around the league forever, had success once in his career, when he had Warner, Faulk, Isaac Bruce, and Tory Holt.
His last 3 offenses, Lions, 9ers, Bears ALL sucked. Each one. And this is who Reggie and DA decided to interview first. Dont know about you, but this sounds like Greg Knapp all over again. At the LEAST, go holler at Mike Mularkey. I would have accepted an interview with Norv Turner over Mike Martz.
Sorry, smells of 2 guys not knowing what the hell theyre doing. Im just calling it like I see it. I WISH I was wrong.
January 12th, 2013 at 6:08 pm
The_Civilian_James_Trapp
Was being sarcastic with that trade/Hubris stuff. The only thing in common between McKenzie and Jackson at this point is both have the same agent.
RaidersNewsFlash hasn’t nailed anything in a while. Their accuracy has been less-than-stellar when it comes to breaking news.
January 12th, 2013 at 6:08 pm
We already have the best OC available in our own backyard with Saunders. The question is, does he want the gig?
January 12th, 2013 at 6:08 pm
Good to see those Donkey fans sit in the cold for ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!!!
January 12th, 2013 at 6:08 pm
I’m for Tebow becoming our Jon Richie, whatchathink?
January 12th, 2013 at 6:09 pm
Morilla Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:08 pm
We already have the best OC available in our own backyard with Saunders. The question is, does he want the gig?
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Saunders and Martz would be great.
January 12th, 2013 at 6:09 pm
WHy cut Palmer , that will be huge cap hit, Palmer will reconstruct and lead us to playoffs next year, we need #1 Receiver a RT 2 DE MLB CB and FS — if we can get a WR and 1 DE and a MLB that will b good enough
January 12th, 2013 at 6:10 pm
Really, I wonder just how good or bad of a blocker Tebow might be.
If he wants to play football, he either has to go the CFL or try to convert to a back in the NFL.
January 12th, 2013 at 6:10 pm
If Martz comes in and tries to teach our WRs his system, DHB’s head will explode.
Seriously, we don’t have the personnel for that scheme.
January 12th, 2013 at 6:11 pm
Martz is not happening, not with this receiving group lol
January 12th, 2013 at 6:11 pm
You are wrong,Alias
January 12th, 2013 at 6:11 pm
Also, Mike Martz looks like The Penguin from Batman
January 12th, 2013 at 6:11 pm
V Davis had disappeared big time, i had the guy in FF league and they guy disappointed me every week
January 12th, 2013 at 6:12 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:06 pm
Whiners will go down n they will go down hard, I’m thinking GB win by atleast 3 TDS
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You said above niners running all over pack. now you say this?
idiots always change their mind minute by minute.
Niners will roll the pack,
January 12th, 2013 at 6:13 pm
509.RaidO Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:07 pm
Edward Teach Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:04 pm
Oakland Raiders News @RaiderNewsFlash
SOURCE: McKenzie is heavily considering cutting Palmer it’s 50/50 right now. Decision could happen sooner than later
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I doubt VERY seriously that, if the Raiders are talking to Mike Martz, they are thinking about cutting Carson Palmer.
If anyone gets cut under Martz it would be Pryor. Not recommending it, but Palmer is a MUCH better fit for what Martz does than Pryor is (now).
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They should cut Palmer
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Well, they’re not going to. And they shouldn’t.
Not much to debate, really. Kinda like Hue coming back. Nothing to talk about there, either.
January 12th, 2013 at 6:13 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:12 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:06 pm
Whiners will go down n they will go down hard, I’m thinking GB win by atleast 3 TDS
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You said above niners running all over pack. now you say this?
idiots always change their mind minute by minute.
Niners will roll the pack,
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Shutup whiners fan
January 12th, 2013 at 6:14 pm
Papertiger418 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:10 pm
If Martz comes in and tries to teach our WRs his system, DHB’s head will explode.
Seriously, we don’t have the personnel for that scheme.
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I think DHB would really benefit.The guy whose head would explode would be Moore.He couldn’t handle Knapp’s simple O.
January 12th, 2013 at 6:15 pm
481, they release Palmer and give Pryor the qb job, that is
Crazy!! Hell no ….
January 12th, 2013 at 6:15 pm
You see that bich?
January 12th, 2013 at 6:15 pm
Well, that sucks.
January 12th, 2013 at 6:16 pm
Where are the dumbasses that wanted DHB instead of Crabtree?
January 12th, 2013 at 6:16 pm
f8ck stupid Packers returned muffed the punt and gave Whiners tD, but it’s okay , Packers will still win
January 12th, 2013 at 6:16 pm
I really hate SF for moving up and taking Kapp just because we were.
January 12th, 2013 at 6:17 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:16 pm
Where are the dumbasses that wanted DHB instead of Crabtree?
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You wanted DHB
January 12th, 2013 at 6:17 pm
531.KoolKell Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:16 pm
Where are the dumbasses that wanted DHB instead of Crabtree?
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Kinda amazing, isn’t it?
January 12th, 2013 at 6:17 pm
He didn’t,the real KK did.
January 12th, 2013 at 6:18 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:06 pm
Whiners will go down n they will go down hard, I’m thinking GB win by atleast 3 TDS
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This just in!!
You are an idiot and if your “best day ever” is because of a Dungver loss that doesn’t say much about your fandome or faith in your team.
Got any more juicy tid-bits for us?
January 12th, 2013 at 6:18 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:09 pm
WHy cut Palmer , that will be huge cap hit, Palmer will reconstruct and lead us to playoffs next year, we need #1 Receiver a RT 2 DE MLB CB and FS — if we can get a WR and 1 DE and a MLB that will b good enough
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If they cut him now they only have to pay the remainder of is signing bonus which is about $7.5 million. He will not be here in 2014. His Salary is $13 million. Even if he takes a cut down to $10 million Raiders would be paying Palmer $17.5 million essentially for one year.
Time to cut Palmer and move on. Spend that money in other places “Players”. Palmer will probably get hurt anyways then what? What a waste of money and “players”
January 12th, 2013 at 6:19 pm
HOw did I know that punt receiver was gonna fumble that ball?
January 12th, 2013 at 6:19 pm
jesusraiderjim Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:18 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:06 pm
Whiners will go down n they will go down hard, I’m thinking GB win by atleast 3 TDS
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This just in!!
You are an idiot and if your “best day ever” is because of a Dungver loss that doesn’t say much about your fandome or faith in your team.
Got any more juicy tid-bits for us?
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LMFAO KKs buddy is getting mad, or should i say another WHINERS FAN?
January 12th, 2013 at 6:20 pm
wow…imagine that teaching players a system
they dont fit…where have i seen that before?
January 12th, 2013 at 6:20 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:13 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:12 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:06 pm
Whiners will go down n they will go down hard, I’m thinking GB win by atleast 3 TDS
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You said above niners running all over pack. now you say this?
idiots always change their mind minute by minute.
Niners will roll the pack,
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Shutup whiners fan
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I call your ignorant ass out, and thats all you come up with? STFU you backtracking ignorant troll.
January 12th, 2013 at 6:20 pm
shutdown Says:
I’m for Tebow becoming our Jon Richie, whatchathink?
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Might be a good tight end. And like somebody else said, could be one scary protector/place holder on punts and field goals.
January 12th, 2013 at 6:20 pm
Cause the fans didn’t have all thier beer labels facing the same way?
January 12th, 2013 at 6:21 pm
Numbnuts took his eyes off the ball.
I bet AR strikes in under three minutes this possession.
Kappy better not make any more mistakes although I doubt he can keep up anyway
January 12th, 2013 at 6:21 pm
They just show us taking Fabian ahead of Rodgers.
Ugly dark days of Raider Nation.
January 12th, 2013 at 6:22 pm
Ouch! The just showed the draft board with Fabian Washington right above Rodgers.
God, that burns!
January 12th, 2013 at 6:22 pm
Actually the remainder of Palmer’s signing bonus which is about $7.5 million is split over the next 2 years= about $3.7 million each year. Not a big deal on the cap.
January 12th, 2013 at 6:23 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:21 pm
They just show us taking Fabian ahead of Rodgers.
Ugly dark days of Raider Nation.
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Your whiners passed him over for A Smith LMAO
January 12th, 2013 at 6:23 pm
Seeing Horseface’s expression after the field goal went through, brought 10 X more joy to my heart than anything the Raiders have brought me since that win in Houston…what a priceless mug shot…lma
January 12th, 2013 at 6:23 pm
Perfect is not the right word. How about quintessential for that football game. Trading TD’s all the way to 35-35 with 2 off turnovers for each team and a scoreless overtime?
January 12th, 2013 at 6:24 pm
Tebow didnt have 3 turnovers in his playoff game.. took them to the playoffs and won.
Manning couldnt get it done for them
January 12th, 2013 at 6:24 pm
WTF!?
January 12th, 2013 at 6:25 pm
The Donkeys will never win another SuperBowl-Call it the Tebow Curse!!
January 12th, 2013 at 6:25 pm
Martz is only one of at least 5 candidates who will interview. I will not even comment about Martz until there is an offer, which probably won’t happen.
January 12th, 2013 at 6:25 pm
Plunketthead Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:21 pm
Numbnuts took his eyes off the ball.
I bet AR strikes in under three minutes this possession.
Kappy better not make any more mistakes although I doubt he can keep up anyway
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You ever get tired of making stupid comments? Of course, you are probably very used to it. Dumbass
January 12th, 2013 at 6:25 pm
If Im a GM of an NFL franchise in 2013, and Im looking into the future for my offense, Mike Martz is not getting a phone call from me, let alone an actual interview.
Was only successful when he had Kurt Warner, Marshall Faulk, Isaac Bruce, and Tory Holt. And that was way back in 99. Thats a lifetime ago.
In the 2000s, after failing with the Lions, 9ers, and Bears, he has actually become a PUNCHLINE amongst NFL fanbases.
And THIS is who Reggie and DA think will turn around our offense? Interesting.
January 12th, 2013 at 6:25 pm
Rodgers is so scared of the pass rush, he turned around to see if A Smith was behind him what a phag
January 12th, 2013 at 6:25 pm
I think Favre did teach Rodgers a few things, after all.
January 12th, 2013 at 6:26 pm
KK is lonely, he needs someone to talk to him lol
January 12th, 2013 at 6:26 pm
One thing is for sure, if he is hired, don’t expect the Raiders to even resemble anything close to the greatest show on turf. Anyone who thinks that is delusional. Expect something along the lines of the 2011 Bears. Nothing spectacular. Under Martz, Palmer will probably chuck 30 pics lol
January 12th, 2013 at 6:27 pm
“DHB is hands down better than Crabtree”
-priesttj
“M Vick is hands down better than J Elway”
-priesttj
January 12th, 2013 at 6:27 pm
boss01 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:25 pm
Martz is only one of at least 5 candidates who will interview. I will not even comment about Martz until there is an offer, which probably won’t happen.
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You will not even comment?
Heavens to Betsy, whatever shall we do?
January 12th, 2013 at 6:28 pm
Rodgers is freaking happy after throwin an INT, i guess he doesn’t mind if SF wins since he grew up rooting for them
January 12th, 2013 at 6:28 pm
Has Reggie woke up from his month long nap yet?
#4-12
January 12th, 2013 at 6:28 pm
552.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:24 pm
Tebow didnt have 3 turnovers in his playoff game.. took them to the playoffs and won.
Manning couldnt get it done for them
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Ryan Clark can’t play at Mile High because of his blood disorder. I often wonder if the outcome of that game would have been different if he was on the field for that play.
January 12th, 2013 at 6:29 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:27 pm
boss01 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:25 pm
Martz is only one of at least 5 candidates who will interview. I will not even comment about Martz until there is an offer, which probably won’t happen.
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You will not even comment?
Heavens to Betsy, whatever shall we do?
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Read your clueless incompetent pathetic comments unfortunately
January 12th, 2013 at 6:29 pm
This pretty much sums everything up, thanks for expediting things KK Munster!
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KoolKell Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:27 pm
Heavens to Betsy
January 12th, 2013 at 6:30 pm
Tebow didnt have 3 turnovers in his playoff game.. took them to the playoffs and won.
Manning couldnt get it done for them
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Ryan Clark can’t play at Mile High because of his blood disorder. I often wonder if the outcome of that game would have been different if he was on the field for that play.
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I know he was gone. Still Broncos were with out decker too. Didnt have as the tight ends they do now. annnd? he still won a playoff game
January 12th, 2013 at 6:30 pm
KoolKell Says:
You ever get tired of making stupid comments? Of course, you are probably very used to it. Dumbass
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Not feeling real comfortable about your niners Norco? Gotta troll and snipe, too?
January 12th, 2013 at 6:30 pm
MistaBrown Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:28 pm
Has Reggie woke up from his month long nap yet?
#4-12
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Yep, he woke up in the 90’s, just in time to interview Mike Martz.
January 12th, 2013 at 6:31 pm
little harbaugh throws tantrums like a little kid that’s not getting ice cream
January 12th, 2013 at 6:32 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:20 pm
shutdown Says:
I’m for Tebow becoming our Jon Richie, whatchathink?
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Might be a good tight end. And like somebody else said, could be one scary protector/place holder on punts and field goals.
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Tebow has taken a lot of grief from people who NEVER wanted him to succeed only because he’s a traditional kid and they wish to make fun of traditionalism. He’s a lousy qb and he should realize he can’t expect an NFL team to adjust their entire O side of the roster to accomodate his skill set. It’s not economically wise.
He’s endured the crass and the vulgar and the stupid and through it all maintained his head and kept himself quiet, the kind of thing we tell our kids to do in order to be a man, a real man, not a fake man who’s full of bravado and bluster.
For all those reasons, I’d love for him to change positions and be able to play a little smack down, smack mouth football, lay the hit on someone and shut those haters up.
January 12th, 2013 at 6:32 pm
After months of storing food at the local buffet, Reggie is hibernating peaceably through the rough winter ahead.
January 12th, 2013 at 6:32 pm
Hey guys check out the little blurb about Mike Martz on his Wikipedia page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Martz
The Raiders fired Mike Martz for the 2013-2014 season?
WTF
January 12th, 2013 at 6:32 pm
That spike penalty was an interesting call. #21 for the Broncos did exactlty the same thing in overtime after rushing for a first down, and I thought he was going to get flagged for it. Maybe they didn’t call it because it was overtime, who knows.
January 12th, 2013 at 6:33 pm
Plunk-It
The beauty of Wiki.
Anyone can update it.
January 12th, 2013 at 6:33 pm
Correction: “smash-mouth”.
January 12th, 2013 at 6:34 pm
569.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:30 pm
Tebow didnt have 3 turnovers in his playoff game.. took them to the playoffs and won.
Manning couldnt get it done for them
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Ryan Clark can’t play at Mile High because of his blood disorder. I often wonder if the outcome of that game would have been different if he was on the field for that play.
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I know he was gone. Still Broncos were with out decker too. Didnt have as the tight ends they do now. annnd? he still won a playoff game
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Oh, I wasn’t discounting the accomplishment. Just couldn’t help wondering what would have happened is all.
January 12th, 2013 at 6:34 pm
Plunk-It Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:32 pm
Hey guys check out the little blurb about Mike Martz on his Wikipedia page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Martz
The Raiders fired Mike Martz for the 2013-2014 season?
WTF
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dont you mean hired?
maybe Wikipedia has solved time travel as well…..
January 12th, 2013 at 6:35 pm
KK is enamored with incompetent failures.
#Hussein #Reggie #Jamarcus
January 12th, 2013 at 6:36 pm
Rodgers is nervous
January 12th, 2013 at 6:36 pm
I’d rather have the option of running defense creeping then.. play action and throwing deep.
Defense have a hard time defending that. When ur a classic drop back passer well. defenses know the situations better. unless ur name is Tom Brady. Thats it.
GB cant even defend Kapernick right now
January 12th, 2013 at 6:36 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:31 pm
little harbaugh throws tantrums like a little kid that’s not getting ice cream
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Yeah and our coach giggles after getting our asses kicked and gets a stupid look on his face when our team messes up or another team runs up the score with a fake FG!!
Who would you rather have?
Nevermind, I forgot Mcfadden20 = DA’s son
January 12th, 2013 at 6:36 pm
John David Booty Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:30 pm
MistaBrown Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:28 pm
Has Reggie woke up from his month long nap yet?
#4-12
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Yep, he woke up in the 90’s, just in time to interview Mike Martz.
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Hopefully , i t works and it will shut these idiots up. The only thing worse then the losing is the ass hurt chicken little wanna be GM second guessing.
not directed at you or anybody in particular, either.
enough. Football gods , please allow this organization the window back to success?
January 12th, 2013 at 6:37 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:36 pm
Rodgers is nervous
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yeah, Rodgers is being challenged to a shoot out – not a good idea if he can get time
January 12th, 2013 at 6:38 pm
jesusraiderjim Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:36 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:31 pm
little harbaugh throws tantrums like a little kid that’s not getting ice cream
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Yeah and our coach giggles after getting our asses kicked and gets a stupid look on his face when our team messes up or another team runs up the score with a fake FG!!
Who would you rather have?
Nevermind, I forgot Mcfadden20 = DA’s son
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OKay thanks for proving your a whiners fans
January 12th, 2013 at 6:39 pm
ET,he didn’t do it in someones face while he was standing over him looking down on him.
January 12th, 2013 at 6:40 pm
morilla Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:16 pm
I really hate SF for moving up and taking Kapp just because we were.
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It was the fkin media that let them know we were tryin to move up to get him, wonder who leaked that out? Probably from a team we were talkin to
January 12th, 2013 at 6:40 pm
Shutdown Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:32 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:20 pm
shutdown Says:
I’m for Tebow becoming our Jon Richie, whatchathink?
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Might be a good tight end. And like somebody else said, could be one scary protector/place holder on punts and field goals.
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Tebow has taken a lot of grief from people who NEVER wanted him to succeed only because he’s a traditional kid and they wish to make fun of traditionalism. He’s a lousy qb and he should realize he can’t expect an NFL team to adjust their entire O side of the roster to accomodate his skill set. It’s not economically wise.
He’s endured the crass and the vulgar and the stupid and through it all maintained his head and kept himself quiet, the kind of thing we tell our kids to do in order to be a man, a real man, not a fake man who’s full of bravado and bluster.
For all those reasons, I’d love for him to change positions and be able to play a little smack down, smack mouth football, lay the hit on someone and shut those haters up.
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He got the last laugh tonight, he advanced the Broncos and Manning didnt. Look for Skip Bayless to be all over this next week. LMAO
January 12th, 2013 at 6:41 pm
I just know the Broncos paid a shyyt load of money to a Qb who couldnt even get them a playoff win.
They really had no better season then raiders.. cuz regular season doesnt mean anything unless u keep winning in the post season
January 12th, 2013 at 6:41 pm
Packers will win
January 12th, 2013 at 6:41 pm
“Mike Martz is so inflexible as an offensive coordinator.
He favors a pass happy, 7-step drop set. He doesn’t allow audibles (dumb). And when Cutler made plays and ran for first downs, he constantly complained because he didn’t call that play.
He just refuses to see when his gameplan isn’t working. Avoid him if you can.”
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Comment from a Bears fan, the last team Martz was OC for.
Sounds nice, doesnt it?
After a season of Greg Knapp, interviewing Mike Martz is a slap in the face to Raiders fans. Im a knowledgeable football fan, these clowns cant pull this Sh!t past me. Mike Martz is trash and has been for a decade strong now. F#ck you, Reggie. You should be embarrassed to even tell people you interviewed Mike Martz.
January 12th, 2013 at 6:42 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:41 pm
I just know the Broncos paid a shyyt load of money to a Qb who couldnt even get them a playoff win.
They really had no better season then raiders.. cuz regular season doesnt mean anything unless u keep winning in the post season
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Your absolutely right
January 12th, 2013 at 6:42 pm
He got the last laugh tonight, he advanced the Broncos and Manning didnt. Look for Skip Bayless to be all over this next week. LMAO
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Yep Skip will be all over Teblows nuts like Mc20 (DA’s Son) is all over DA’s Nutz!!
January 12th, 2013 at 6:42 pm
Realtruraider Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:40 pm
morilla Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:16 pm
I really hate SF for moving up and taking Kapp just because we were.
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It was the fkin media that let them know we were tryin to move up to get him, wonder who leaked that out? Probably from a team we were talkin to
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Sure seemed that way.
January 12th, 2013 at 6:42 pm
588.lefty12 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:39 pm
ET,he didn’t do it in someones face while he was standing over him looking down on him.
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Yeah, I didn’t think you could do it at all. Maybe I’m wrong about that, but they did call Kaepernick for delay of game there, and not taunting. Maybe I just don’t understand the rule.
January 12th, 2013 at 6:43 pm
CALM DOWN with this stupid complaining, sometimes teams just interview guys to pick their brains, it never hurts to interview good minds
January 12th, 2013 at 6:44 pm
Hell yeah, this is NFL football. Great camera angle from behind Rodgers, did ya see it. Dang, gives you a real idea just how much zip is on that ball of his.
Great day of football, the next best thing to our Raiders being in the playoffs.
January 12th, 2013 at 6:44 pm
jesusraiderjim Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:42 pm
He got the last laugh tonight, he advanced the Broncos and Manning didnt. Look for Skip Bayless to be all over this next week. LMAO
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Yep Skip will be all over Teblows nuts like Mc20 (DA’s Son) is all over DA’s Nutz!!
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LMFAO WHINERS FAN IS FUNNY , NOT
January 12th, 2013 at 6:44 pm
#598 What do you know about a good mind? You are like 14 your mind isn’t fully developed yet.
January 12th, 2013 at 6:44 pm
John David Booty Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:41 pm
Im a knowledgable football fan
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Debatable
January 12th, 2013 at 6:46 pm
Whiners fans are mad LOL
January 12th, 2013 at 6:46 pm
Skip was all over Horseface’s balsak all year, his fakeness will be revealed yet again if he gets on Horseface and blows up TeBlow
January 12th, 2013 at 6:46 pm
“He got the last laugh tonight, he advanced the Broncos and Manning didnt. Look for Skip Bayless to be all over this next week. _______________________________________
Yeah, but Bayless was so wrong about Griffin being as likely to last as a non-running qb. The guy said that Andrew Luck wasn’t even close to RG3 as a qb. He’s got a loud mouth just like Stephen A. just to get ratings.
January 12th, 2013 at 6:46 pm
ET-they called a personal foul-15 yards
January 12th, 2013 at 6:47 pm
Teblow might be in the CFL next year unless the Reggime brings him in
January 12th, 2013 at 6:48 pm
So where does A.Smith go next year?
January 12th, 2013 at 6:48 pm
The way things are going, I wouldn’t be surprised to see tonight’s game go into OT.
January 12th, 2013 at 6:48 pm
The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
Oakland Raiders News @RaiderNewsFlash
SOURCE: McKenzie is heavily considering cutting Palmer it’s 50/50 right now. Decision could happen sooner than later
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Guess we should take this seriously. I mean, it’s not just any old dimbulb that can get a twitter account, is it?
January 12th, 2013 at 6:49 pm
Hey, it could be worse than Martz…..like the Jags QB coach…..man what are Big Reg and DA thinkin
January 12th, 2013 at 6:49 pm
Im a numbers guy.
So pay 20 million to a Qb like Manning who couldnt get them a playoff win.
or pay 500, 000 for Qb who can pass that well unless its play action deep ball.. control the game with the Run and take ur chances of 4th quarter tebow time when defenses are tired and they cant stop the read option/ or Play action.
lol
January 12th, 2013 at 6:49 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:38 pm
jesusraiderjim Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:36 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:31 pm
little harbaugh throws tantrums like a little kid that’s not getting ice cream
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Yeah and our coach giggles after getting our asses kicked and gets a stupid look on his face when our team messes up or another team runs up the score with a fake FG!!
Who would you rather have?
Nevermind, I forgot Mcfadden20 = DA’s son
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OKay thanks for proving your a whiners fans
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I notice that when you get bichslapped you always answer the poster must be a whiner fan?
A girlscout could bich slapp you, you ignorant troll.
January 12th, 2013 at 6:49 pm
606.lefty12 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:46 pm
ET-they called a personal foul-15 yards
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Watching the game and commenting in here. Multitasking is obviously not my strong suit, lol.
January 12th, 2013 at 6:49 pm
“He got the last laugh tonight, he advanced the Broncos and Manning didnt. Look for Skip Bayless to be all over this next week. _______________________________________
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But will he have the last laugh?Teabow will be cut by the Jets and might not be picked up by anyone.His best chance was Jacksonville and the new GM said no way.
January 12th, 2013 at 6:50 pm
They should bring in Tebow and say ” Heres 50 VCR tapes of Todd Christensen….study them…be him…this is your only NFL future….
January 12th, 2013 at 6:50 pm
U DONT NEED A RAIDER INSIDER to know REGGIE MCKENZIE is going over all his options right now
and yes PALMER is one of them.
January 12th, 2013 at 6:51 pm
who cant pass well * i meant .
January 12th, 2013 at 6:51 pm
All in the eye of the beholder:
I’ve been reading the laments of Donkey fans over on the Denver Post.
Someone wrote that he was sick of Dierdorf’s “manlove” for the Ravens. Yep, for the Ravens.
January 12th, 2013 at 6:52 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:49 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:38 pm
jesusraiderjim Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:36 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:31 pm
little harbaugh throws tantrums like a little kid that’s not getting ice cream
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Yeah and our coach giggles after getting our asses kicked and gets a stupid look on his face when our team messes up or another team runs up the score with a fake FG!!
Who would you rather have?
Nevermind, I forgot Mcfadden20 = DA’s son
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OKay thanks for proving your a whiners fans
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I notice that when you get bichslapped you always answer the poster must be a whiner fan?
A girlscout could bich slapp you, you ignorant troll.
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LOOK what he got butt hurt over, No need to get butthurt over what i said about Whiners coach unless he’s a whiners fan or Harbaughs son lol, but thanks for proving you’re a big troll
January 12th, 2013 at 6:52 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:43 pm
CALM DOWN with this stupid complaining, sometimes teams just interview guys to pick their brains, it never hurts to interview good minds
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Thats YOUR outlook.
The reality is, our offense was beyond trash because of the OC that Reggie and DA hired. Raiders fans wait all season for Knapp to be fired. Since the season ended, we hear nothing about the Raiders interviewing coaches for the staff, despite the fact that other teams have been extremely active with talking to candidates for improving their teams.
We finally hear a name, for an actual interview, and of all people, its a man that is on NO ONES radar due to his past failures and the fact that he has become an NFL punchline.
There have been solid candidates being interview all over the league, all off-season. We interview Mike Martz. You can call it stupid complaining if you want, just shows you dont know much about the situation. So I wont take offense to your ignorance.
But for those in the know, interviewing Mike Martz for OC is a complete joke, and no GM worth his weight in anything is even giving Mike Martz a call. So, to see OUR GM has interviewed this guy, AFTER allowing Knapp to be hired, looks like idiot sh!t to me, to put it frankly.
If you cant comprehend that, sorry. But there is nothing stupid about me complaining about the decisions this team is making.
January 12th, 2013 at 6:52 pm
“They should bring in Tebow and say ” Heres 50 VCR tapes of Todd Christensen….study them…be him…this is your only NFL future….”
Close, but I’d give him tapes of Dave Caspar, who could not only catch but block as well. Of course, I’d love any Raider who could catch like TC.
January 12th, 2013 at 6:53 pm
Morilla Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:48 pm
So where does A.Smith go next year?
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KC, Philly or Cleveland (Norv coached him as OC during Niners.
i wont wish the Arizona Cardinals on A.Smith
January 12th, 2013 at 6:53 pm
What if the Jets cut Tebow, and Raiders Cut Palmer.
Jets pick up Palmer and we Pick up TEBOW to pair him up back with Dennis Allen as a Coach. Dennis said in an interview he was a fan of tebow lmao
That would be crazy . Its a rebuilding season anyway right? Tebow would fance the donkeys 2x a year again or Pryor.
They might f around and actually get us at least 8- 10 wins. Be like the Oakland A’s or Golden state warriors
January 12th, 2013 at 6:54 pm
GB acting like they don’t understand how a guy as tall and lanky as Kaepernick can run the way he does.
Put a spy on him.
January 12th, 2013 at 6:55 pm
Kaepernick is awesome… dude looks like a stud pick so far.
January 12th, 2013 at 6:55 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:53 pm
What if the Jets cut Tebow, and Raiders Cut Palmer.
Jets pick up Palmer and we Pick up TEBOW to pair him up back with Dennis Allen as a Coach. Dennis said in an interview he was a fan of tebow lmao
That would be crazy . Its a rebuilding season anyway right? Tebow would fance the donkeys 2x a year again or Pryor.
They might f around and actually get us at least 8- 10 wins. Be like the Oakland A’s or Golden state warriors
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Tebow to Raiders makes sense from the notoriety and leaderrship standpoint – in the first few games…then when defenses catch up let the comedy ensue
January 12th, 2013 at 6:55 pm
Lefty12 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:44 pm
John David Booty Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:41 pm
Im a knowledgable football fan
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Debatable
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Bring it on. Attempt to match wits or shut the f#ck up. You sound like a b!tch with that comment though, just have to let you know.
January 12th, 2013 at 6:56 pm
Didn’t he have to convert a DB to WR? That’s amazing! LOL!
January 12th, 2013 at 6:56 pm
Shutdown Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:54 pm
GB acting like they don’t understand how a guy as tall and lanky as Kaepernick can run the way he does.
Put a spy on him.
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really hoping the guy advances and Wiison too. That would make these “running QB” critics STFU – God willing one of them win the Super Bowl
January 12th, 2013 at 6:56 pm
Mac20
I aint mad, you just bring the blog down when you’re on it.
Stupid is as Stupid does.
You have never typed a meaning full word on this blog and you post MORE than anyone on here.
How can you say so much and yet say nothing at all?
January 12th, 2013 at 6:58 pm
Maybe he can help DHB and Moore ans the rest?
January 12th, 2013 at 6:59 pm
But will he have the last laugh?Teabow will be cut by the Jets and might not be picked up by anyone.His best chance was Jacksonville and the new GM said no way.
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I don’t doubt there new GM really doesn’t want him, but Im pretty sure he couldn’t say if he did, could he? Isn’t there rules about tampering? Like when he was asked “even if he was cut” I think he did what your suppose to do and said no. If he said yes, I think they could of got him for tampering, unless that rule is only for RFA.
January 12th, 2013 at 6:59 pm
jesusraiderjim Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:56 pm
Mac20
I aint mad, you just bring the blog down when you’re on it.
Stupid is as Stupid does.
You have never typed a meaning full word on this blog and you post MORE than anyone on here.
How can you say so much and yet say nothing at all?
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it’s obvious you’re mad, all i been saying is how happy i am since DEN lost and how i talked about Harbaugh always throwing tantrums and you replied back by telling me about DA, n you tell me how you’re not a whiners fan LMAO
January 12th, 2013 at 6:59 pm
and lol!
January 12th, 2013 at 7:00 pm
RaiderSam Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:53 pm
Morilla Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:48 pm
So where does A.Smith go next year?
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KC, Philly or Cleveland (Norv coached him as OC during Niners.
i wont wish the Arizona Cardinals on A.Smith
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Good call on those. I hope he stays away from KC.
January 12th, 2013 at 7:00 pm
People are talking about cutting Palmer and bringing in TEBOW? SMH
January 12th, 2013 at 7:02 pm
it’s obvious you’re -mad, all i been saying is how happy i am since DEN lost and how i talked about Harbaugh always throwing tantrums and you replied back by telling me about DA, n you tell me how you’re not a whiners fan LMAO
God you’re an IDIOT. That is not what you said. “best day ever” is what you said loser.
Just STFU and talk to the other bloggers please and I will just skip over you’re ignorant drivvle. Thanks for playing. Make sure you are home by curfew.
January 12th, 2013 at 7:03 pm
If Palmer didn’t cost 17 million against the cap I wouldn’t lose sleep over cutting him. No way he should make that kind of money after going 4-12.
January 12th, 2013 at 7:03 pm
Sounds like we have equal thoughts towards each other.BTW,you are the one who comes here and constantly whines(biotches).That is all you do.You hate the GM,you hate the coaches,you hate many of the players.You whine because the team doesn’t leak enough information about what they are doing.I have never read one positive comment you have ever made about the Raiders.Just to let you know.
January 12th, 2013 at 7:03 pm
637
Yeah lol, they ben listening to romo to much or somethin
January 12th, 2013 at 7:04 pm
Dayum. Interviewing Marty Moose? Someone needs to remind Reggie this is the Oakland Raiders, not Wally World. If this is DA’s idea, better can him before the damage becomes irreversible.
January 12th, 2013 at 7:04 pm
Here’s the problem for Tebow. No team will now want him as a starting qb and no one can blame them. Even if the spread option worked with him running it, he goes down and it requires a back-up qb to run it as well as the guy who went down. CAn’t happen. You don’t have two guys as qbs with those skill sets and you can’t afford to re-tool an offense every time a qb gets hurt, even if the hurt doesn’t sideline him but justs slows his running down.
So, if he goes to the CFL, it’s a good fit. They use the spread and he’d be a hit in Canada, both for his play and for his personality.
However, unlike a guy like, say, Warren Moon, who went to the CFL and prospered before the stupid NFL gave him a chance, Tebow will never be an accurate downfield passer. I just don’t believe that after college, in their early twenties, after playing the game since they were little kids, guys who can’t throw and who don’t know how to set their feet and who don’t have a release point that’s right, ever gain the accuracy it takes to be a successful NFL qb. Moon could throw. Tebow can only make certain throws (the short slant) and that limits the play selection.
So, if he goes to the CFL with the intention of honing his skills in order to return to the NFL as a starter, it won’t happen. He will be running spread offenses and he’ll only get better at that.Like I say, though, he’s likely to be a huge success at it.
However, he’ll want to return to the NFL, but by then, his one strength, running, will probably not be as strong as it once was because he will be older and slower.
So, if the kid wants the NFL and ONLY the NFL as_a_starter (and face it, he wants to be a starter, not a back bencher), he HAS to change positions.
It’s a question of his being honest with himself about his realistic options.
The sooner he makes the decision ..CFL or change positions, the better. Even then, there’s no knowing if he’d be a starter at another position, but yeah, I’d like to see him try out as a TE. He can’t throw. Can he catch?
January 12th, 2013 at 7:04 pm
jesusraiderjim Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 7:02 pm
it’s obvious you’re -mad, all i been saying is how happy i am since DEN lost and how i talked about Harbaugh always throwing tantrums and you replied back by telling me about DA, n you tell me how you’re not a whiners fan LMAO
God you’re an IDIOT. That is not what you said. “best day ever” is what you said loser.
Just STFU and talk to the other bloggers please and I will just skip over you’re ignorant drivvle. Thanks for playing. Make sure you are home by curfew.
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LMFAO TALK TO OTHER BLOGGERS, I NEVER WANted to talk to a whiners fan, you butted into my convo and thought its your business defending whiners coach and telling me how DA isn’t perfect etc etc
January 12th, 2013 at 7:05 pm
I’ll stick with these guys for another season, if its another fail then fire the bozos.
January 12th, 2013 at 7:06 pm
Gosh guys its the “best day ever” cause Denver lost, best ever I swear.
January 12th, 2013 at 7:07 pm
Jesusraiderjim Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 7:06 pm
Gosh guys its the “best day ever” cause Denver lost, best ever I swear.
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It is pretty good. You have to admit it.
January 12th, 2013 at 7:08 pm
jesusraiderjim Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 7:06 pm
Gosh guys its the “best day ever” cause Denver lost, best ever I swear.
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YUP GREATEST DAY EVER LOL @ WHINERS FAN
January 12th, 2013 at 7:11 pm
I just love the fact that Elway is sitting by himself in a room somewhere with a scotch and pouting.
January 12th, 2013 at 7:13 pm
Lefty12 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 7:03 pm
Sounds like we have equal thoughts towards each other.BTW,you are the one who comes here and constantly whines(biotches).That is all you do.You hate the GM,you hate the coaches,you hate many of the players.You whine because the team doesn’t leak enough information about what they are doing.I have never read one positive comment you have ever made about the Raiders.Just to let you know.
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And which of my complaints that you love reading have I been inaccurate about?
I see something positive, I give credit. I see something negative, I complain. Thats the way it works.
You go ahead and cheer for bad moves. Thats your style, cool. But its not mine.
So, again, which of my arguments do you have an educated rebuttal for? If you dont have an educated response, with facts to backup your point, then you really should just shut the hell up and not bother responding to me.
Hell yeah I complain on this blog. Im a Raiders fan, and this is one of many forums to discuss the state of the Raiders. And every time I have a complaint or argument, I come with facts and stats to back up my points. So, where are yours, knowledgeable football fan?
The last topic I was complaining about was Mike Martz being interviewed, which, get this, IS THE TOPIC OF THE BLOG POST. I gave reasons why I think its stupid to even consider calling Martz. So, now its your turn, smart guy. Why exactly do you think its a great idea to interview Mike Martz?
January 12th, 2013 at 7:15 pm
ok nation have a good night
January 12th, 2013 at 7:17 pm
[...] Raiders interview Martz for off. coord. vacancy The Raiders interviewed Mike Martz for their offensive coordinator vacancy in an attempt to find an upgrade over the fired Greg Knapp, a person familiar with the situation said. They also spoke with Juan Castillo about the prospect of taking over for… [...]
January 12th, 2013 at 7:17 pm
lol@mcfoofoo20.
It’s like picking on a kid. A slow kid. A really slow kid.
January 12th, 2013 at 7:19 pm
I’m a big martz fan. This was a surprise and I hope they get him. An offensive genius. With a #1 wr, Palmer could have 5k yards. Offense would be fantastic. And as much as I think DMc is done, it’s exciting to think of what he could do in martz’s offense if he did bounce back.
Seems like he could be a head coach in waiting too.
January 12th, 2013 at 7:19 pm
lol@mcfoofoo20.
It’s like picking on a kid. A slow kid. A really slow kid.
January 12th, 2013 at 7:20 pm
And since you love reading my posts, you should know that I have been patient with Reggie, up until I saw this BS with interviewing Martz. Now I know he has no clue what hes doing though.
DA, of course I hate him as coach. For good reason, he sucks. I guess youre the type that loves the coach, no matter what, just because he coaches your favorite team. Hey, go ahead. Im never gonna be like that, so if you dont like it, I cant help you.
January 12th, 2013 at 7:21 pm
You give opinions and state them as facts,you don’t present facts.Martz is a known commodity.He is a proven,established OC that has made offenses and players better wherever he has coached.He is better than the person he interviewed to replace.I’m not endorsing him or dismissing him.But if you interview someone and get a different perspective on some of your players it does nothing but good.Why get so upset over a simple interview?You don’t know that we weren’t just picking his brain.And whether you like it or not,the guy knows offensive football.
January 12th, 2013 at 7:23 pm
It’s nice to see a good white qb like kaepernick do well. Lol.
January 12th, 2013 at 7:23 pm
John David Booty Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 7:13 pm
Lefty12 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 7:03 pm
Sounds like we have equal thoughts towards each other.BTW,you are the one who comes here and constantly whines(biotches).That is all you do.You hate the GM,you hate the coaches,you hate many of the players.You whine because the team doesn’t leak enough information about what they are doing.I have never read one positive comment you have ever made about the Raiders.Just to let you know.
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And which of my complaints that you love reading have I been inaccurate about? ________________
You were just called a whiney little bich, and you reply “Yes, I am”?
You missed the point, you dumbass. Point was that’s ALL YOU DO IS WHINE LIKE A LITTLE BICH. That’s it. Like a woman. Nag nag nag.
Now stfu before I start picking on you.
January 12th, 2013 at 7:25 pm
I’m endorsing martz. One of the brightest offensive minds the game has ever seen. Hire him immediately.
January 12th, 2013 at 7:27 pm
Explain why DA sucks.I keep reading this and wonder what makes you believe this.Give specific reasons and remember he hired Knapp after all the other teams hired their staffs and he was very limited in who he could bring in all the while being denied access to other coaches.
January 12th, 2013 at 7:30 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:53 pm
What if the Jets cut Tebow, and Raiders Cut Palmer.
Jets pick up Palmer and we Pick up TEBOW to pair him up back with Dennis Allen as a Coach. Dennis said in an interview he was a fan of tebow lmao
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No offense.. but if this was serious, I think it is the stupidest thing I have ever seen here.
We already have a RB/QB that can’t pass on staff.
January 12th, 2013 at 7:32 pm
Looks like the Mike Martz item at Wikipedia has been deleted.
January 12th, 2013 at 7:34 pm
The line that says he was “[h]ired” as the Raiders OC.
January 12th, 2013 at 7:35 pm
Evening, all.
January 12th, 2013 at 7:35 pm
Can Streater/Criner = Holt/Bruce?
January 12th, 2013 at 7:36 pm
Lefty12 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 7:21 pm
You give opinions and state them as facts,you don’t present facts.Martz is a known commodity.He is a proven,established OC that has made offenses and players better wherever he has coached.He is better than the person he interviewed to replace.I’m not endorsing him or dismissing him.But if you interview someone and get a different perspective on some of your players it does nothing but good.Why get so upset over a simple interview?You don’t know that we weren’t just picking his brain.And whether you like it or not,the guy knows offensive football.
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“You give opinions and state them as facts,you don’t present facts.”
I post stats and records on this blog all the time, that people have no problem referencing WEEKS and even MONTHS later. Feel free to go back. You just made that up.
“He is a proven,established OC that has made offenses and players better wherever he has coached.”
You just made that up, or you dont know much about football beyond the 90s. Martz had one successful stint, with Rams way back in 99, when they had Kurt Warner, Marshall Faulk, Isaac Bruce, and Tory Holt. As well as one of the best LTs ever in Orlando Pace.
In the 2000s’ he has failed stints as OC with the Lions, 9ers, and Bears. He has actually become a joke in NFL circles and amongst NFL fanbases, but again, shows what you know. According to you, he is a known “commodity”. I guess thats why hes gotten so many other mentions OUTSIDE of the Raiders, huh?
“He is better than the person he interviewed to replace.”
If the extent of your argument for why someone deserves an interview is that they are better than Greg Knapp, then you truly have no business attempting to match wits with me, and I see how foolish it is for me to even be wasting time arguing with you, but Im just gonna entertain this for a second more. I actually thought you would have something smart to say since you chose to respond to me, but you are PROVING you dont know much about football.
“Why get so upset over a simple interview?”
Because OC is one of THE most important decisions for this team going into next season. If you dont recognize THAT, again, sorry, but you dont know much about the state of this team, or football in general. But we’ll pretend that you do understand how important the OC hire is, just for the rest of this post. With such an important decision at hand, while the rest of the league is AT LEAST looking at VIABLE candidates, we only hear of a SINGLE interview with Mike Martz, who again, has FAILED in each of his last 3 OC jobs, JUST LIKE KNAPP.
So, whats your argument again? Nevermind. You admitted you dont have one. Youre just a b!tch who wanted to reply to one of my posts, but didnt have anything intelligent to say. Next time, keep your mouth shut when people who actually FOLLOW the NFL are talking, son.
January 12th, 2013 at 7:36 pm
I have to wonder whose idea it was to talk to martz. Lets remember he was available when they hired knapp. With an experienced, very successful guy like martz around, no one would be so quick to start talking about how bad he sucks. The offense would be in very capable hands and Allen could focus on defense. Very intriguing.
January 12th, 2013 at 7:36 pm
Evening,Scourge.
January 12th, 2013 at 7:38 pm
Gdog Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 7:30 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:53 pm
What if the Jets cut Tebow, and Raiders Cut Palmer.
Jets pick up Palmer and we Pick up TEBOW to pair him up back with Dennis Allen as a Coach. Dennis said in an interview he was a fan of tebow lmao
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No offense.. but if this was serious, I think it is the stupidest thing I have ever seen here.
We already have a RB/QB that can’t pass on staff.
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TOUCHDOWN KAEPERNICK 56 yd run
these Pryor doubters can eat a dick….
Raiders need to figure out a way to unleash that option and get this kid more accurate – if done correctly Pryor could be better than a lot of people think
January 12th, 2013 at 7:38 pm
Did you hear the crowd on that TD? Neither did I! Whiner fans are really weak.
January 12th, 2013 at 7:39 pm
If u are of the opinion that Nike martz somehow doesn’t know offense, ur insane. He has more ideas about offense than just about anyone. Would be a great hire.
January 12th, 2013 at 7:39 pm
Dr_robert Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 7:36 pm
I have to wonder whose idea it was to talk to martz. Lets remember he was available when they hired knapp. With an experienced, very successful guy like martz around, no one would be so quick to start talking about how bad he sucks. The offense would be in very capable hands and Allen could focus on defense. Very intriguing.
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Im worried that tension between Allen and Martz would be significant if the offense struggles – looking to see if Martz could resurrect Palmer – he made Marc Bulger into a Pro Bowler
January 12th, 2013 at 7:40 pm
Kappy is ballin’ tonight. Sure would be fun to see him and Russell Wilson go at it in the championship game.
Russell’s got a tough game tomorrow, though. That one’s on his defense though, because the Falcons have weapons. If Seattle can’t slow them down Wilson’s going to have to have the game of his life.
January 12th, 2013 at 7:41 pm
At least we’ll find out who our OC is pretty soon
January 12th, 2013 at 7:41 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 7:23 pm
John David Booty Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 7:13 pm
Lefty12 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 7:03 pm
Sounds like we have equal thoughts towards each other.BTW,you are the one who comes here and constantly whines(biotches).That is all you do.You hate the GM,you hate the coaches,you hate many of the players.You whine because the team doesn’t leak enough information about what they are doing.I have never read one positive comment you have ever made about the Raiders.Just to let you know.
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And which of my complaints that you love reading have I been inaccurate about? ________________
You were just called a whiney little bich, and you reply “Yes, I am”?
You missed the point, you dumbass. Point was that’s ALL YOU DO IS WHINE LIKE A LITTLE BICH. That’s it. Like a woman. Nag nag nag.
Now stfu before I start picking on you.
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Youre the biggest hoe on this blog. Dont start with me. I will rip your b!tch @ss to shreds. But if you think youre ready, for once in your miserable life, offer something intelligent. I’ll wait, but wont hold my breath. After years of posting here, all you ever do is get sh!tted on.
January 12th, 2013 at 7:41 pm
Soon as the Packers lose we’ll know within a few days
January 12th, 2013 at 7:41 pm
Raidersam–ur joking right? Kaepernicks success means Pryor doubters are stupid? Then u say they need to get this kid “more accurate”. Do u see what u said? That’s kinda why we doubt him isn’t it?
January 12th, 2013 at 7:43 pm
Edward Teach Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 7:40 pm
Kappy is ballin’ tonight. Sure would be fun to see him and Russell Wilson go at it in the championship game.
Russell’s got a tough game tomorrow, though. That one’s on his defense though, because the Falcons have weapons. If Seattle can’t slow them down Wilson’s going to have to have the game of his life.
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Falcons need to beat the Seahawks and get that choke tag off their back once and for all. I think if they can stop the beast its ok
January 12th, 2013 at 7:44 pm
677.GG Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 7:41 pm
Soon as the Packers lose we’ll know within a few days
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Awful lot of time left. Don’t know that I’d write the Packers off just yet.
January 12th, 2013 at 7:44 pm
Raidersam–yeah but if the offense struggles, that could be said for any OC. But at least the offense would be in the hands of a guy who can do it.
January 12th, 2013 at 7:44 pm
Okay, I can see it now–a bunch of coaches are now going to go after basketball players build like CK to play qb.
It looks like Harbaugh told his kid before the game, just run.
January 12th, 2013 at 7:46 pm
KoolKell Says:
It’s like picking on a kid. A slow kid. A really slow kid.
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We wouldn’t know. We don’t pick on really slow kids.
January 12th, 2013 at 7:46 pm
I’m not hear to match wits with you,I don’t play those childish games,boy.I’m here to discuss football,specifically the Oakland Raiders.Perhaps you should do a little research before you open your mouth.Everywhere Martz has been the offense was more productive than before he arrived.Interviewing someone like him and picking his brain can only help.He hasn’t been hired or as far as anyone knows been offered a job,yet you are all butt hurt.You are one of those guys who want a certain person and if he isn’t picked you want to take your ball and go home.
January 12th, 2013 at 7:47 pm
It’s against teams like that score like this that you want a running game or else it always comes down to who has the ball last.
January 12th, 2013 at 7:47 pm
Crabtree is A GOD. Better than anyone on the Raiders, that’s for sure.
January 12th, 2013 at 7:48 pm
Dr_robert Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 7:41 pm
Raidersam–ur joking right? Kaepernicks success means Pryor doubters are stupid? Then u say they need to get this kid “more accurate”. Do u see what u said? That’s kinda why we doubt him isn’t it?
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Just the adrenalin of the game…Kaepernick is much more accurate and has better velocity (although he’s flat on his deep throws).
You have every right to doubt Pryor…its wishful thinking, but they have to salvage a QB out of Al Davis’ last pick.
what other options or out there? Commit to the o-line for one last stand for Palmer – take Joeckel AND then trade for Wisconsin Guard Frederick?
Pryor has a shot if he dedicates himself – and who else is out there? Chase Daniel?
January 12th, 2013 at 7:48 pm
Some ppl here would still rather have Palmer over Kapernick or Russell WIlson lmao
Kapernick was close to being a Raider till the 49ers moved up to draft him.
Thats why Al had to get an Athletic Qb and got Pryor in the 3rd
January 12th, 2013 at 7:48 pm
Crabtree is A GOD. Better than anyone on the Raiders, that’s
for sure.
January 12th, 2013 at 7:49 pm
Evening, Lefty.
January 12th, 2013 at 7:49 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 7:47 pm
Crabtree is A GOD. Better than anyone on the Raiders, that’s for sure.
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actually, he would have been INEFFECTIVE if drafted by Raiders if you are thinking we shouldve got Crabs and not DHB.
Crabtree is God this year – he was a peasant in last years playoff game
January 12th, 2013 at 7:49 pm
Pryor can run as fast/ good if not faster then kapernick.
Pryor ran a 4.3 at his combine
January 12th, 2013 at 7:49 pm
Gotta love the balls of harbaugh, realizing he needed to go for the gold with kaepernick and making the gutsy move at qb.
January 12th, 2013 at 7:50 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 7:48 pm
Some ppl here would still rather have Palmer over Kapernick or Russell WIlson lmao
Kapernick was close to being a Raider till the 49ers moved up to draft him.
Thats why Al had to get an Athletic Qb and got Pryor in the 3rd
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Agree. Dnt know if the results would be the same – WHAT A THROW TO VERNON DAVIS!
Raiders need to get their game up and execute…this is how it should be done. Love my Raiders, but look im just being real
January 12th, 2013 at 7:52 pm
Clark Judge@ClarkJudgeCBS
This hurts but it’s truth: Denver has one more playoff win with Tebow than with Manning. Just saying.
Retweeted by SBreport
January 12th, 2013 at 7:52 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 7:49 pm
Pryor can run as fast/ good if not faster then kapernick.
Pryor ran a 4.3 at his combine
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the issue is can Pryor be used by Martz or whomever, or would Martz/Tice, etc decline on developing Pryor to bring in someone else – Palmer is gone after this year for certain, so they’d better decide.
Martz?
Chris Ault?
Carl Smith?
Charmichael?
January 12th, 2013 at 7:52 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 7:49 pm
Pryor can run as fast/ good if not faster then kapernick.
Pryor ran a 4.3 at his combine
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Yeah, but Kapp can throw. Surgical.
January 12th, 2013 at 7:53 pm
Wiki reporting Martz has been hired as OC
January 12th, 2013 at 7:53 pm
679.RaiderSam Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 7:43 pm
Edward Teach Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 7:40 pm
Kappy is ballin’ tonight. Sure would be fun to see him and Russell Wilson go at it in the championship game.
Russell’s got a tough game tomorrow, though. That one’s on his defense though, because the Falcons have weapons. If Seattle can’t slow them down Wilson’s going to have to have the game of his life.
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Falcons need to beat the Seahawks and get that choke tag off their back once and for all. I think if they can stop the beast its ok
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Matt Ryan is still a young QB, and his three playoff losses have all been to the eventual NFC representative in the Super Bowl (the last two won).
Still too early to call them choke artists, although it won’t stop people from doing just that.
January 12th, 2013 at 7:53 pm
Oh,alias,what a tough punk you are and that is exactly what you are-a punk.You scare people.LMFAO.You have to resort to those types of comments because your football acumen is null.You internet tough guys are hilarious.
January 12th, 2013 at 7:54 pm
thats what speed and talent can do…packers on their heels…
January 12th, 2013 at 7:54 pm
Ya but can PRyor get to half of what Kapernick is throwing the ball.
The issue isnt his arm strength is he trys to hard to be accurate.
January 12th, 2013 at 7:55 pm
RaiderSam, good point about possible tension between DA and MM.
I had the same thought we I first read the report herein. And it’s not just MM, I think it would be a consideration with any similarly aged/experienced coach.
January 12th, 2013 at 7:55 pm
now the Niners can just pin their ears back and go after Rodgers
January 12th, 2013 at 7:56 pm
kap has a stronger arm…
January 12th, 2013 at 7:56 pm
The Big Banana Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 7:53 pm
Wiki reporting Martz has been hired as OC
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oh SNAP! Wiki is usually accurate … somebody couldnt hold their tweet
January 12th, 2013 at 7:56 pm
No defense left in the NFL is gonna be able to stop Kapernick / niners but seattle. Its cuz they see it everyday.
They must beat the Falcons tommorow
January 12th, 2013 at 7:57 pm
Wiki is usually money, looks like its Martz
January 12th, 2013 at 7:57 pm
Edward Teach Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 7:53 pm
679.RaiderSam Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 7:43 pm
Edward Teach Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 7:40 pm
Kappy is ballin’ tonight. Sure would be fun to see him and Russell Wilson go at it in the championship game.
Russell’s got a tough game tomorrow, though. That one’s on his defense though, because the Falcons have weapons. If Seattle can’t slow them down Wilson’s going to have to have the game of his life.
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Falcons need to beat the Seahawks and get that choke tag off their back once and for all. I think if they can stop the beast its ok
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Matt Ryan is still a young QB, and his three playoff losses have all been to the eventual NFC representative in the Super Bowl (the last two won).
Still too early to call them choke artists, although it won’t stop people from doing just that.
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Oh they are. I lived there for over ten years. Even the people that live there call them choke artists.
I can’t stand that team. Went to a Raider game when I lived there. Horrible experience . Rednecks and cheap beer.
January 12th, 2013 at 7:57 pm
Banana….. The Mike Martz entry in Wiki no longer mentions the Raiders. I just refreshed the page in FF and the previous report is gone.
January 12th, 2013 at 7:57 pm
Pryor can’t throw the ball nearly as well as Kap,They shouldn’t be compared.
January 12th, 2013 at 7:58 pm
So Big Mac wants to cut Palmer with out giving him a shot with a real OC? If Martz can get a rise outta Bolger, I guess it’s possible he can help Palmer. Niners still blow ass.
January 12th, 2013 at 7:59 pm
no mention – just says he’s an analyst for Fox with Ron Pitts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Martz
January 12th, 2013 at 8:00 pm
Ok, thanks for the update, Scourge
January 12th, 2013 at 8:01 pm
It doesn’t look good for Seattle tomorrow.I picked GB,DEN,SEa,and NE.That’s why I don’t bet.LOL
January 12th, 2013 at 8:02 pm
John David Booty Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 5:43 pm
So, after all that, we finally get a name and its Mike Martz
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JDB, Lefty makes good posts. Well-considered posts. JDB, it takes away from your posts by treating Lefty the way you are. Not an attack, just sharing a perspective.
It was just an interview. MM may have seen/heard something *he* doesn’t want any part of.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:03 pm
Love that slomo replay of Rogers face.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:05 pm
Lefty12 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 7:46 pm
I’m not hear to match wits with you,I don’t play those childish games,boy.I’m here to discuss football,specifically the Oakland Raiders.Perhaps you should do a little research before you open your mouth.Everywhere Martz has been the offense was more productive than before he arrived.Interviewing someone like him and picking his brain can only help.He hasn’t been hired or as far as anyone knows been offered a job,yet you are all butt hurt.You are one of those guys who want a certain person and if he isn’t picked you want to take your ball and go home.
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Youre not here to match wits with me? I posted that I was disappointed that after all this time, the only name we hear is Mike Martz, and how as a knowledgeable football fan, Im not impressed with Martz.
YOU felt the need to reply to me saying I was a knowledgeable football fan.
So I call you on it, and now you back down. Thats what I thought. If you wanted attention, you shoulda chose someone else to step to. Hoe, the only reason you were even addressed is because you replied to my post. Otherwise, your posts are typically ignored, because you have NEVER offered much here.
You dont “play those child games”? Yeah, shut up you mental midget. Youve been exposed as someone who runs their mouth but cant back up anything in actual football knowledge. Like I said, next time people that know football are talking, tuck your tail and shut the hell up, so you dont look foolish again.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:05 pm
709.morilla Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 7:57 pm
Edward Teach Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 7:53 pm
679.RaiderSam Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 7:43 pm
Edward Teach Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 7:40 pm
Kappy is ballin’ tonight. Sure would be fun to see him and Russell Wilson go at it in the championship game.
Russell’s got a tough game tomorrow, though. That one’s on his defense though, because the Falcons have weapons. If Seattle can’t slow them down Wilson’s going to have to have the game of his life.
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Falcons need to beat the Seahawks and get that choke tag off their back once and for all. I think if they can stop the beast its ok
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Matt Ryan is still a young QB, and his three playoff losses have all been to the eventual NFC representative in the Super Bowl (the last two won).
Still too early to call them choke artists, although it won’t stop people from doing just that.
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Oh they are. I lived there for over ten years. Even the people that live there call them choke artists.
I can’t stand that team. Went to a Raider game when I lived there. Horrible experience . Rednecks and cheap beer.
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Crazy. I can understand disppointment, but calling a young team like that choke artists because they lost to who they lost to makes no sense.
Madden’s in the Hall of Fame. It took him awhile to win the big one, too. Imagine what they’d be saying about him nowadays.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:05 pm
If Pryor is our future, I really have a hard time seeing Martz as being “the guy”.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:06 pm
Jason Cole @JasonColeYahoo
SF OC Greg Roman is making himself some serious money tonight … but Colin Kaepernick is basically his agent.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:07 pm
720.morilla Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 8:05 pm
If Pryor is our future, I really have a hard time seeing Martz as being “the guy”.
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Or vice-versa.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:07 pm
Edward Teach Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 8:05 pm
709.morilla Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 7:57 pm
Edward Teach Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 7:53 pm
679.RaiderSam Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 7:43 pm
Edward Teach Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 7:40 pm
Kappy is ballin’ tonight. Sure would be fun to see him and Russell Wilson go at it in the championship game.
Russell’s got a tough game tomorrow, though. That one’s on his defense though, because the Falcons have weapons. If Seattle can’t slow them down Wilson’s going to have to have the game of his life.
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Falcons need to beat the Seahawks and get that choke tag off their back once and for all. I think if they can stop the beast its ok
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Matt Ryan is still a young QB, and his three playoff losses have all been to the eventual NFC representative in the Super Bowl (the last two won).
Still too early to call them choke artists, although it won’t stop people from doing just that.
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Oh they are. I lived there for over ten years. Even the people that live there call them choke artists.
I can’t stand that team. Went to a Raider game when I lived there. Horrible experience . Rednecks and cheap beer.
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Crazy. I can understand disppointment, but calling a young team like that choke artists because they lost to who they lost to makes no sense.
Madden’s in the Hall of Fame. It took him awhile to win the big one, too. Imagine what they’d be saying about him nowadays.
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I know, I moved away in 05′ during the Vick years and they called them that then. I think that town has the “Braves” complex.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:07 pm
shutdown Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:00 pm
Wonderful! The stupid donkeys are out! However, I still don’t have a clue about what answers the Raiders have for defeating “Martian head” Manning and his team. Mike Martz will be a huge improvement as OC. Maybe we can find a decent OC after the Superbowl. As of now, the Raiders are a mess.
You need a D with heart and, as the announcers and Lewis have said, a D that confuses him at times. Raider D’s have not confused anyone in…forever. In fact, even when we had great teams, we didn’t confuse or try to confuse on D. We relied on superior athletes.
Quarterbacking and coaching and the ability of the coaches to signal in plays to the qb, the development of using instant photos of defensive sets, all have given the best of the qbs and the best of coaching staffs the ability to beat any defense. Thus, to beat a Manning, you have to confuse and to confuse you have to have a D capable of multiple and complex looks.
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I totally agree. But it looks like we have no good prospects in the DC coaching dept. Unless we snatch up the 49ers. DC coach. According to Aikman and Bucko, teams will be after his services.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:08 pm
Commentator just made a good observation about the 49er OL. Especially use of draft picks. Raiders should be paying attention.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:08 pm
RaiderSam Says:
Palmer is gone after this year for certain, so they’d better decide.
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No matter how he plays? Why?
January 12th, 2013 at 8:09 pm
Scourge Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 8:02 pm
John David Booty Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 5:43 pm
So, after all that, we finally get a name and its Mike Martz
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JDB, Lefty makes good posts. Well-considered posts. JDB, it takes away from your posts by treating Lefty the way you are. Not an attack, just sharing a perspective.
It was just an interview. MM may have seen/heard something *he* doesn’t want any part of.
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I never had anything to say to that clown until he decided he wanted to speak on me. I asked him to back it up, he couldnt. If “Lefty” didnt want the “treatment”, he shouldnt have opened his mouth. I never come in here and attack posters until they talk sideways to me. Once that happens, its open season. So, f#ck Lefty. I never spoke down on that man. He spoke down on me, I go at him. That goes for anyone else.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:10 pm
I know, I moved away in 05′ during the Vick years and they called them that then. I think that town has the “Braves” complex.
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Ironic. The Braves won a ton of division titles and went to some World Series, but didn’t they only go all the way once?
January 12th, 2013 at 8:12 pm
Pastor Napoleon @napoleonkaufman
I think my man @TerrellePryor can do what I see this man Kaep doing. I can see this!! #RaiderNation @CorkOnTheNFL
January 12th, 2013 at 8:12 pm
I gues you guys get it now watching what an atheletic QB can do to a defense. Kappy is shredding a very good defense. He was brought along smartly by Harbaugh and now he’s doingb thigs that have never been seen before at that position.
We could have won another 4 games at least had we taken similar steps to get Pryor ready. But no matter the coaches are watching this as well and I gaurantee you they are KICKING themselves for missing out on an opportunity to advance TP6 growth and next year hit the ground running as did SF.
So get used to it this is the next phase of QB play in the NFL a guy who can kill you form the pocket as well as outrun your entire defense for 80 yards and a score. Think of it if they get an OC who get this kid ready we will by midseason have one of the most dangerous weapons at QB the NFL has ever seen.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:13 pm
Edward Teach Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 8:10 pm
I know, I moved away in 05′ during the Vick years and they called them that then. I think that town has the “Braves” complex.
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Ironic. The Braves won a ton of division titles and went to some World Series, but didn’t they only go all the way once?
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Yeah, it was something like that.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:13 pm
Phuck you punk.You didn’t start this with”I’m not impressed with Martz”.Don’t change your tune now.You started biotching because he was interviewed.What is the matter,Alias,hate it when you are called out on your BS.Tough guys like you make me laugh.All mouth with no substance.The funny part is you are usually ignored but the knowledgable comment caught my eye and made me laugh so hard I spit out my beer.I come here for fun not to argue with simpletons like you.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:14 pm
Pastor Napoleon @napoleonkaufman
I think my man @TerrellePryor can do what I see this man Kaep doing. I can see this!! #RaiderNation @CorkOnTheNFL
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Nap obviously agrees with me and so do the coaches SF is blowing GB off the field with this new wave QB.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:14 pm
Rodgers is handicapped by a D that reminds me of many Colts teams with Manning.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:15 pm
Maybe they asked Martz since he is such a X O guy.. can he pull a shanahan and put the Read Option in his offense????
January 12th, 2013 at 8:15 pm
John David Booty Says:
Once that happens, its open season. So, f#ck Lefty. I never spoke down on that man. He spoke down on me, I go at him. That goes for anyone else.
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OK, Booty boy. We’re duly warned. And quaking in our blog boots. Guess it’s open season now on me.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:15 pm
But no matter the coaches are watching this as well and I gaurantee you they are KICKING themselves for missing out on an opportunity to advance TP6 growth and next year hit the ground running as did SF.
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My guess is that they’re watching this and wishing Pryor could throw the ball the way that Kaepernick can.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:16 pm
Pastor Napoleon @napoleonkaufman
I think my man @TerrellePryor can do what I see this man Kaep doing. I can see this!! #RaiderNation @CorkOnTheNFL
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Nap obviously agrees with me and so do the coaches SF is blowing GB off the field with this new wave QB.
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Pastor Nap surely understands that GB has to honor Kaepernick’s ability to throw, giving him just the time he needs to run around them.
So far at least, Mr. Pryor hasn’t demonstrated any keen ability to throw accurately.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:16 pm
Hey,genius,smart people don’t need to tell others how intelligent they are,but I realize you don’t know this.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:17 pm
edward teach Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 8:07 pm
720.morilla Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 8:05 pm
If Pryor is our future, I really have a hard time seeing Martz as being “the guy”.
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ET If you cannot see that these coaches arew obviously leaning toward Pryor you are in denial. Pryor as DA said did things Palmer had not in weeks. If you can’st see this is the future in the NFL my man you are blind.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:17 pm
Edward Teach Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 8:15 pm
But no matter the coaches are watching this as well and I gaurantee you they are KICKING themselves for missing out on an opportunity to advance TP6 growth and next year hit the ground running as did SF.
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My guess is that they’re watching this and wishing Pryor could throw the ball the way that Kaepernick can.
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No kidding, it’s night and day.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:17 pm
So, who thinks it will be a Harbaugh vs Harbaugh Super Bowl? What to call it:
- The Brother Bowl
- A Family Affair
- Super Harbowl
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January 12th, 2013 at 8:18 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
I gues you guys get it now watching what an atheletic QB can do to a defense. Kappy is shredding a very good defense.
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I gotta hear you back this up, Priest. About the D obviously.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:18 pm
PIEO-careful,he will go at you now.LMAO @ internet tough guys.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:19 pm
EMRaiders Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 8:17 pm
So, who thinks it will be a Harbaugh vs Harbaugh Super Bowl? What to call it:
- The Brother Bowl
- A Family Affair
- Super Harbowl
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How about Black Sunday.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:20 pm
Thec Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 1:55 pm
BALT
SF
SEA
HOU
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2 down….2 to go
January 12th, 2013 at 8:20 pm
Kappy outplayed ARod handsdown, Pryor outplayed Palmer in the last game of the year. And think it was his 1st start EVER he scored 3 TD’s 100% inn the redzone where Palmer struggled ALL YEAR and 3rs down conv were the highest ALL YEAR………it’s his job to win all he has to do is keep getting better every outting. Which I’m confident he will do.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:21 pm
EMRaiders Says:
So, who thinks it will be a Harbaugh vs Harbaugh Super Bowl? What to call it:
- The Brother Bowl
- A Family Affair
- Super Harbowl
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Har Har Har.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:21 pm
EMRaiders Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 8:17 pm
So, who thinks it will be a Harbaugh vs Harbaugh Super Bowl? What to call it:
- The Brother Bowl
- A Family Affair
- Super Harbowl
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I Used To Take Baths With Him Bowl
January 12th, 2013 at 8:22 pm
GB had a sh!tty defense all year and tonight is no different,but Kap looks good.Too bad we couldn’t have gotten him.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:22 pm
Lefty12 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 8:13 pm
Phuck you punk.You didn’t start this with”I’m not impressed with Martz”.Don’t change your tune now.You started biotching because he was interviewed.What is the matter,Alias,hate it when you are called out on your BS.Tough guys like you make me laugh.All mouth with no substance.The funny part is you are usually ignored but the knowledgable comment caught my eye and made me laugh so hard I spit out my beer.I come here for fun not to argue with simpletons like you.
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I said I didnt like Martz being interviewed. In my post I called myself a knowledgeable football fan. Your gay @ss took exception to that. I gave reasons why Martz has no business being interviewed. You gave nothing. I dont know or care who alias is, Ive never cross posted here, and never will. Ive had one name and will stick with it.
My comments are not usually ignored, you just made that up, and again, you can go back for posts and posts and see several posts where the stats and records Ive made up have been referenced by others here for MONTHS, something that doesnt happen with you and your garbage posts. You dont know sh!t about the NFL, evidenced by the fact that you think Martz is any good, though he was run out of his last 3 jobs. I bet your sctub @ss didnt even know who the last 3 teams he worked for was until it was mentioned here.
But forget football, youve proven you know nothing there. Where do you live, buddy? I’ll show you how much of a fake tough guy I am. We can meet if you want and I’ll glady slap the sh!t out of you. Im in Socal and Im in Norcal twice a month. Im more than happy to show you how much of a fake tough guy I am. I was just here talking football, but you want to take it to another level, lets go. What city are you in, hoe?
January 12th, 2013 at 8:22 pm
John David Booty Says:
Once that happens, its open season. So, f#ck Lefty. I never spoke down on that man. He spoke down on me, I go at him. That goes for anyone else.
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Anyone can threaten to swing a purse. Anyone.
Even you. Somehow that still doesn’t make you sans-vag.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:22 pm
GG Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 8:12 pm
Pastor Napoleon @napoleonkaufman
I think my man @TerrellePryor can do what I see this man Kaep doing. I can see this!! #RaiderNation @CorkOnTheNFL
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I would trust this Ex Raiders judgement over ANY Semi non sense.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:22 pm
740.Priesttj12 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 8:17 pm
edward teach Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 8:07 pm
720.morilla Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 8:05 pm
If Pryor is our future, I really have a hard time seeing Martz as being “the guy”.
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ET If you cannot see that these coaches arew obviously leaning toward Pryor you are in denial. Pryor as DA said did things Palmer had not in weeks. If you can’st see this is the future in the NFL my man you are blind.
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Well I saw Dennis ALlen say that Carson Palmer is his quarterback of the future. I am also beyond certain that Palmer is a better fit for what Martz does than Pryor currently is.
I said nothing about either one being the answer, just that it appears that, based on what Martz likes to do, that if there WAS an odd man out it would be Pryor.
I honestly don’t care one way or the other. I just want to score some points and win some games.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:23 pm
“I gues you guys get it now watching what an atheletic QB can do to a defense. Kappy is shredding a very good defense. He was brought along smartly by Harbaugh and now he’s doingb thigs that have never been seen before at that position.”
As if we never saw an athletic qb before?
First, remember that teams haven’t had much time to plan defenses for this guy and second, remember that GB doesn’t have a good defense.
And three, remember that SF has had 2 weeks of prep.
And four, remember that at any time, he could take a helmet to his knee, and then he’ll have to be a drop back pocket qb. Will he excel at that?
January 12th, 2013 at 8:23 pm
Pryor’s armstregth is not what kappy’s is but he can definitely throw it every bit as good as he needs to. Armstrength is a plus it is NOT a must. Pryor arm is stronger than Payton Mannings ever was.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:24 pm
AFC CHampionship: BALT vs NE
NFC Championship: ATL vs SF
SUPERBOWL: BALT vs SF
SB Winner: Ha! I won’t give you that one. Don’t want to ruin it for ya’ll.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:25 pm
HUE JAX/ AL wanted Kapernick . 49ers moved up 10 spots got him
REggie wanted RUSSELL WILSON. Raiders spent the most time with Russell WIlson at senior bowl according to those reports last year.
They had no number 1 pick, no 2nd pick, and NO real 3rd pick.
Damn shame. Hue punked us out of those draft pick. Could have easily traded down and picked Russell in the 2nd.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:25 pm
JDB, what do you think we should do with the Raiders OL?
January 12th, 2013 at 8:25 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 8:22 pm
John David Booty Says:
Once that happens, its open season. So, f#ck Lefty. I never spoke down on that man. He spoke down on me, I go at him. That goes for anyone else.
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Anyone can threaten to swing a purse. Anyone.
Even you. Somehow that still doesn’t make you sans-vag.
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Lil btch don’t you think you’ve had enough of fantasy today?
January 12th, 2013 at 8:26 pm
We’re all excited to see what Pryor can do. But it won’t be until 2014. That’s fact. Until then let’s stay on the level.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:26 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 8:22 pm
John David Booty Says:
Once that happens, its open season. So, f#ck Lefty. I never spoke down on that man. He spoke down on me, I go at him. That goes for anyone else.
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Anyone can threaten to swing a purse. Anyone.
Even you. Somehow that still doesn’t make you sans-vag.
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You are another known blog-loser. Im not arguing with your dumb @ss cause you know nothing of football either. State your city, if you wanna meet so I can blacken your eyes up, lets make it happen. I live in Socal and am in Norcal twice every month. I am more than happy to meet up with you to. I’ll bring the boxing gloves, fair and square. State your city and when you want to arrange this, or shut the f#ck up.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:26 pm
LMAO “hoe”.
Little girls.
Man your purses.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:26 pm
Mike Martz LOL, another wasted year….. The only guy that could screw up Marshall Faulk Terry Holt Isaac Bruce and Run Kurt Warner out of town 4yrs before his time…….. THE WORST FIRE REGGIE AND DENNIS NOW NOW NOW
January 12th, 2013 at 8:27 pm
Matt Ryan is still a young QB, and his three playoff losses have all been to the eventual NFC representative in the Super Bowl (the last two won).
Still too early to call them choke artists, although it won’t stop people from doing just that.
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Matt Ryan sucks! I can’t think of a QB in history given more weapons than that guy and he still gets slapped around. Criticizing him for not WINNING in the playoffs is being much to kind. He’s not even giving his team a CHANCE in the playoffs. His physical deficiencies show up against the good teams. Totally outclassed by Warner, Rodgers and Manning. He better get ready for more of the same tomorrow.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:27 pm
gregg rosenthal@greggrosenthal
Not a changing of the guard. But on a day Manning + Rodgers will lose, sure feels like things changing at QB position
Retweeted by Bill Romanowski
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Haters will refuse to believe this. They want Palmer cuz he threw for 4,000 yards!!
January 12th, 2013 at 8:27 pm
EMRaiders Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 8:24 pm
AFC CHampionship: BALT vs NE
NFC Championship: ATL vs SF
SUPERBOWL: BALT vs SF
SB Winner: Ha! I won’t give you that one. Don’t want to ruin it for ya’ll.
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I would say Ravens.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:27 pm
Thec Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 8:22 pm
GG Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 8:12 pm
Pastor Napoleon @napoleonkaufman
I think my man @TerrellePryor can do what I see this man Kaep doing. I can see this!! #RaiderNation @CorkOnTheNFL
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I would trust this Ex Raiders judgement over ANY Semi non sense.
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This explayer has seen a lot more of Pryor than anyone in here, he doesn’t hesitate to Tweet the obvious. Palmer is close and closer to the door as these coaches see these young talented athletic QB’s make strides in thios league . They want a QB that can do both from the pocket and on the run. There aren’t anymore 6′6″ 240 Qb’s running 4.3′ 40’s who can also beat you from the pocket.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:28 pm
John David Booty Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 8:26 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 8:22 pm
John David Booty Says:
Once that happens, its open season. So, f#ck Lefty. I never spoke down on that man. He spoke down on me, I go at him. That goes for anyone else.
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Anyone can threaten to swing a purse. Anyone.
Even you. Somehow that still doesn’t make you sans-vag.
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You are another known blog-loser. Im not arguing with your dumb @ss cause you know nothing of football either. State your city, if you wanna meet so I can blacken your eyes up, lets make it happen. I live in Socal and am in Norcal twice every month. I am more than happy to meet up with you to. I’ll bring the boxing gloves, fair and square. State your city and when you want to arrange this, or shut the f#ck up.
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You’re on puzzy.
Tell me the date, I’ll give you the location.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:28 pm
Each QB grew up a fan of the other team? Isn’t that just precious.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:28 pm
Man everybody can see it it’s just that some don’t wnat to admit it.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:29 pm
gregg rosenthal@greggrosenthal
doesn’t mean everything changing. but just another way to do things is working
January 12th, 2013 at 8:29 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 8:26 pm
LMAO “hoe”.
Little girls.
Man your purses.
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HahaHaha, hehehehehehe
January 12th, 2013 at 8:29 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 8:27 pm
gregg rosenthal@greggrosenthal
Not a changing of the guard. But on a day Manning + Rodgers will lose, sure feels like things changing at QB position
Retweeted by Bill Romanowski
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Haters will refuse to believe this. They want Palmer cuz he threw for 4,000 yards!!
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..??? Manning “lost” to Flacco.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:30 pm
Guys see what a legit 2nd year qb looks like?
Pryor couldn’t complete half his passes vs a team out of contention.
Kaep is setting records vs a SB defense.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:31 pm
Maybe Reggie, DA etal might want to reconsider Martz?
January 12th, 2013 at 8:32 pm
..??? Manning “lost” to Flacco.
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see his response
gregg rosenthal@greggrosenthal
doesn’t mean everything changing. but just another way to do things is working
January 12th, 2013 at 8:32 pm
Interesting about Martz. My first reaction was, not bad, pretty cool. But thinking about it more I’m not sure it’s a great fit. Martz isn’t known for making great use of his RBs and I still believe that DMac should be our best weapon next year. Martz is also criticized because he allows his QBs to take a beating. While I’m interested in seeing CP3 chuck it deep and often, I’m not sure how well or long he holds up under that. Lastly, I believe Martz’s system calls for very smart, vey polished receivers. I don’t those are strengths of our guys.
Intriguing name, but I hope Chubby C/hecker and Dennis Allen know what they’re doing this time.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:32 pm
I could never meet up with a such a bad a$$ as you,you are a tough guy,LOL.Sorry,I very seldom read anything you write.You are too long winded and negative towards the Raiders.Maybe you have posted stats and records,I don’t know,but we are back to the beginning-You admit you didn’t like that Martz was interviewed.Why is that such a bad thing?He hasn’t been hired.As far as we know he hasn’t been offered any job.He has improved every offense he has ever coached.Has he been fired-sure,every coach either has been fired or will be fired.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:35 pm
771.Priesttj12 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 8:28 pm
Man everybody can see it it’s just that some don’t wnat to admit it.
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Stop being so melodramatic. I was speaking specifically about Mike Martz and the type of QB that does well in his system.
I have posted plenty of times about how dangerous an athletic QB can be if he can execute the passing game
at an NFL level, and you know it.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:35 pm
183 yds rushing by Kappy.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:35 pm
Martz is being considered because of Al Saunders instead of in spite Al. Their playbooks are very similar. Saunders and Martz will work well together if Al wants to stay. Not that Martz is a gaurantee or anything but I do see a connection. I’m not at all saying this is what happened but I would not be surprised if Saunders suggested Martz as someone he could work with.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:37 pm
Kaepernick vs Russell Wilson is gonna be a rivarly like Young and Brett Farve or soemthing like that lol
January 12th, 2013 at 8:37 pm
Kanick shreds GB and Arod…ROFLMAO
January 12th, 2013 at 8:38 pm
I have said and I believe that Pryor can be as good if not better than Kappy. Kappy has a bad habit of zipping everything he throws. You can see Jim has worked hard with him on his footwork and mechanics and if our coaches will do the same with Pryor they wil have a lethalk weapon at QB.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:38 pm
2 Down 2 to go….1N
January 12th, 2013 at 8:38 pm
324 yds rushing by 49ers. 184 by Kappy.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:38 pm
Now that the Packers have been eliminated, I’m expecting a bunch of Packers coaches to be interviewed.
I don’t think Martz will be hired, just got an interview.
Maybe someone inside the Niners offensive coaches might get interviewed after tonight. The OC Roman is linked to several HC interviews.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:39 pm
Question for ya’ll,
what do you think would be more of a threat, a QB that can run like Barry Sanders, or a RB that can throw like Manning/Brady?
January 12th, 2013 at 8:42 pm
I may have to turn in my Raider fan card for saying this, but I’ve gotta admit I was pretty disappointed in Denver losing today. For one, I’ve got a bone to pick with Harbaugh after that fake FG in the blowout this year. Second, and more importantly, I’ve been a Peyton Manning fan for a long time, and as a football fan, I was really hoping to see another ManningBrady title game showdown. That’s up there with Bird-Magic as the two greatest rivalries in sports in my lifetime. Would’ve been fun to see another go around with those two.
Refs were giving the Donks the old Raiders treatment early in that game. I thought the fans were going to tear that place to the ground at one point.
And how does Fox have Manning take a knee with 30 seconds left and 2 timeouts in his pocket. One of the weakest, worst coaching decisions I’ve seen in a long time. Sometimes you get the feeling that if Manning were his own head coach he’d have a couple more rings. I don’t think DA would do anything that incredibly lame. I mean, you’re telling me Manning can’t go 40-45 yards against a soft zonegiven 3 to 5 plays? Incredible. Donks fans must be out of their minds right now. One of the worst postseason losses I can ever remember.-
January 12th, 2013 at 8:42 pm
After seeing what the 49ers are able to do with Collin Kaepernick there is no excuse to not let Terrelle Pryor be the starter next year. He’s smart enough, he’s just as good running the ball and his throwing is very similar to Kaepernick. Both of them are not consistent with their accuracy but they get better when they are able to build their confidence. Harbaugh created a good environment to build his confidence. We need our coach to be able to do that. That’s what good coaches do.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:42 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 5:30 pm
Kapy is getting exposed today, seen that coming from a mile away.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:42 pm
EMR…how about a QB that can kick field goals!
January 12th, 2013 at 8:42 pm
Pastor Napoleon@napoleonkaufman
Trust me, Niner fans are seriously hoping the Seahawks lose. #DontBeScared
January 12th, 2013 at 8:43 pm
Mike Martz would be a great hire at OC.
He coaches to Palmer’s strengths, the WRs would be able to catch in stride (thereby not getting hammered by every Linebacker and Safety on the field), we will know if Pryor OS the future qb for the Raiders.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:43 pm
SBreport@SBreport
Does Terrelle Pryor’s stock go up with all these read-option QB’s having success?
January 12th, 2013 at 8:44 pm
edward teach Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 8:35 pm
771.Priesttj12 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 8:28 pm
Man everybody can see it it’s just that some don’t wnat to admit it.
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Stop being so melodramatic. I was speaking specifically about Mike Martz and the type of QB that does well in his system.
I have posted plenty of times about how dangerous an athletic QB can be if he can execute the passing game
at an NFL level, and you know it.
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But you also insist Palmer is better suited for Martz system over Pryor. I have to differ with you while Palmer is far and away more skilled from the pocket than Pryor that wont be the case in 2 years. Pryor is well suited for that offense with his mobility. You think he wont be as =effective from the pocket. That may be the case at the start of the year it wont be at the end. Martz system as the QB to be accountable for one defender and he has to know where to go with the football. BY midseason Pryor can ahve that system down if they give him the necessary reps.
Pryor’s only issue will be the speed of teh game initially once he cacthes up with that it’s a matter of execution…….period
January 12th, 2013 at 8:45 pm
NEW YORK — Nevada QB Colin Kaepernick is headed to San Francisco. Explaining how it happened shows the wheelin’-and-dealin’ side of the NFL draft.
League sources told NFL Network’s Jason La Canfora that the 49ers were “persistent” in trying to land Kaepernick, exploring trade options at the end of the first round before initiating talks with the Patriots and Bills at the top of the second. NFL Network’s Michael Lombardi reported that the Raiders (with picks 48 and 81) also were in talks with the Patriots, setting up a Bay Area battle for the QB.
Presumably, the Patriots’ price for the No. 33 pick was too high. But the 49ers — who, according to LaCanfora, believed they had to leapfrog the QB-needy Redskins at No. 41 after missing out on TCU’s Andy Dalton — pulled the trigger by dealing pick Nos. 45, 108 and 141 to the Broncos for the 36th selection, which San Francisco used on Kaepernick.
As the teams who started the day needing QB help positioned themselves, the options became even more slim once the Bengals selected Dalton with the third pick (35th overall) of the second round. NFL.com analyst Pat Kirwan believes many teams eliminated Arkansas’ Ryan Mallett from their draft boards altogether, setting the stakes for Kaepernick.
“It’s clear from yesterday and today that teams are way over the value charts on trades,” Kirwan said. “That doesn’t make them wrong, but they’re ignoring it to get what they want. If they have a guy in mind who they believe can start for their team, they’re throwing caution to the wind to get him. Time will tell, but I can’t fault the 49ers.”
– Frank Tadych
January 12th, 2013 at 8:45 pm
Scourge Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 8:42 pm
EMR…how about a QB that can kick field goals!
There’s only been one. That won’t be repeated ever again. One of a kind legend in the history of the game.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:45 pm
796.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 8:43 pm
SBreport@SBreport
Does Terrelle Pryor’s stock go up with all these read-option QB’s having success?
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Terrelle Pryor’s stock goes up or down based on how HE plays, not how someone else plays.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:45 pm
Priest,there is no evidence that Pryor can chuck the rock as well as Kap.Arm strength isn’t the issue,accuracy is.Kap is in his 2nd year-Pryor his 3rd and there is no comparison.I know you want a black QB but lets get a good one,not just any one.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:46 pm
Terry Bradshaw Howie Long talking about the evolution of the QB position.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:46 pm
Scourge Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 8:25 pm
JDB, what do you think we should do with the Raiders OL?
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Cut Briesell, move Wiz back to LG, where he and Veldheer were playing great together in 11.
Draft Center Dalton Freeman. Started almost 50 straight games for Clemson and is flying under the radar. Drop a 6th on him and let him backup Todd McClure, who we should target as a FA Center. Let Bergstrom get acclimated to RT and try him there for 2013. He was our 2012 3rd rounder, if he cant play, we need to know now so we can move on after the season if needed.
Since I want the draft to primarily focus on D, I think that the biggest FA pickup should be to address O-Guard. There are gonna be some real good FA O-linemen available, and not ALL of them are gonna get top dollar. Levitre or Brandon Moore could both be available for us at G if Reggie plays the cap correctly.
Those are just some quick fix ideas off the top of my head, but even more should open up in the next few weeks. I dont think it should be hard to fix O-line because we already have to above-solid players there in Veld and Wiz. Those are good linemen to build around.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:46 pm
League sources told NFL Network’s Jason La Canfora that the 49ers were “persistent” in trying to land Kaepernick, exploring trade options at the end of the first round before initiating talks with the Patriots and Bills at the top of the second. NFL Network’s Michael Lombardi reported that the Raiders (with picks 48 and 81) also were in talks with the Patriots, setting up a Bay Area battle for the QB.”
January 12th, 2013 at 8:46 pm
Okay, who matches up better against the running threat of Kaepenick? Seahawks? Falcons?
January 12th, 2013 at 8:47 pm
Edward Teach Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 8:45 pm
796.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 8:43 pm
SBreport@SBreport
Does Terrelle Pryor’s stock go up with all these read-option QB’s having success?
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Terrelle Pryor’s stock goes up or down based on how HE plays, not how someone else plays.
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Threw for 2 TD’s ran for another.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:49 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 5:30 pm
Kapy is getting exposed today, seen that coming from a mile away.
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Really?
January 12th, 2013 at 8:50 pm
Al saw something in Kapernick. But so did harbaugh. Facck.
So Al went after another athletic Qb in PRYOR. I cant Blame Al. He saw the way these Qbs would be in the future.
The conselation prize. Hoping they could develope him. If Pryor is watching this its nothing but MOTIVATION
January 12th, 2013 at 8:50 pm
797.Priesttj12 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 8:44 pm
edward teach Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 8:35 pm
771.Priesttj12 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 8:28 pm
Man everybody can see it it’s just that some don’t wnat to admit it.
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Stop being so melodramatic. I was speaking specifically about Mike Martz and the type of QB that does well in his system.
I have posted plenty of times about how dangerous an athletic QB can be if he can execute the passing game
at an NFL level, and you know it.
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But you also insist Palmer is better suited for Martz system over Pryor. I have to differ with you while Palmer is far and away more skilled from the pocket than Pryor that wont be the case in 2 years. Pryor is well suited for that offense with his mobility. You think he wont be as =effective from the pocket. That may be the case at the start of the year it wont be at the end. Martz system as the QB to be accountable for one defender and he has to know where to go with the football. BY midseason Pryor can ahve that system down if they give him the necessary reps.
Pryor’s only issue will be the speed of teh game initially once he cacthes up with that it’s a matter of execution…….period
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You might want to read my posts on the subject again. I said Palmer is a better fit RIGHT NOW. Never did I say that Pryor couldn’t succeed. I have no way of knowing that.
This isn’t the first time you’ve mischaracterized something I’ve written. Either read it as I’ve written it and comment on my actual words, or ignore them altogether. I’m getting tired of interpreting plain English for you becasue you have a preconcieved idea of what I’m saying.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:50 pm
Both favorites lost today, good day for bookies.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:50 pm
Shutdown Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 8:46 pm
Okay, who matches up better against the running threat of Kaepenick? Seahawks? Falcons?
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I would say Seachickens. They have experience against running QBs….
January 12th, 2013 at 8:52 pm
BREAKING NEWS
Raider fans reject Trade for Russell wilson for Carson Palmer. Also reject trade KAP 4 Carson Palmer.
Reason??
Raider Fans say Palmer through for 4,000 plus yards nevermind he has had 37 Turnovers in 2 yrs. He had No Wide Recievers!!
January 12th, 2013 at 8:52 pm
SBreport@SBreport
Doubt the read-option all you like, but Pierre-Paul, DeMarcus Ware, and Clay Matthews don’t do mindless pirouettes for conventional QB’s.
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January 12th, 2013 at 8:53 pm
Shawne Merriman@shawnemerriman
I hate the read option btw sincerely #LightsOut #NFL
January 12th, 2013 at 8:54 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 5:30 pm
Kapy is getting exposed today, seen that coming from a mile away.
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Seriously?
January 12th, 2013 at 8:55 pm
Incidently being more skilled from the pocket doesn’t mean a better QB it’s simply means he’s more expperienced in going through reads and executing. Howvever if he is as immobile as Palmer I would take someone maybe less skilled yet effective. If that someone is extremely mobile as Pryor is because while Palmer is going 3 and out Pryor is moving the chains and scoring…..period
January 12th, 2013 at 8:55 pm
SBreport@SBreport
Doubt the read-option all you like, but Pierre-Paul, DeMarcus Ware, and Clay Matthews don’t do mindless pirouettes for conventional QB’s.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:56 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 5:30 pm
Kapy is getting exposed today, seen that coming from a mile away.
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Seriously?
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JFB what a insightful statement…………sounds just like you.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:56 pm
John David Booty Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 8:46 pm
Cut Briesell, move Wiz back to LG, where he and Veldheer were playing great together in 11.
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Thanks, JDB. I agree with a lot of what you say. While I avoid naming specific draft picks, I believe that the Raiders should trade down and use the lower picks to get OL help. I have a different perspective on the DL. I think the DL should be where we put a good FA or two with something left in the tank.
Would you keep Coop as a back-up or is he too old from your perspective, JDB?
January 12th, 2013 at 8:57 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 8:54 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 5:30 pm
Kapy is getting exposed today, seen that coming from a mile away.
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Seriously?
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most rush yards n NFL history
sit the f$5k down
January 12th, 2013 at 8:58 pm
Shutdown Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 8:46 pm
Okay, who matches up better against the running threat of Kaepenick? Seahawks? Falcons?
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Seattle. Matches Niner physicality. Should Falcons advance,,Niners will go to the SB
January 12th, 2013 at 8:59 pm
Hopefully DA etc recognize Pryor’s potential now.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:00 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 8:55 pm
SBreport@SBreport
Doubt the read-option all you like, but Pierre-Paul, DeMarcus Ware, and Clay Matthews don’t do mindless pirouettes for conventional QB’s.
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Pack has given up 82 yards in last 2 playoff losses..different dimension now
read option works, IF your QB is accurate
Listening Pryor?
January 12th, 2013 at 9:00 pm
When I watch Kap i believe when,not if,when he gets a knee blown out he can still be a good QB because he can toss the rock.I haven’t seen that from Pryor yet.Not saying it can’t happen,just saying he hasn’t shown that ability yet.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:00 pm
Reggie might be dropping his pants like singletary did.. talking about he wants WINNERS
DA is just agreeing after watching that SF game
January 12th, 2013 at 9:01 pm
TP will be the starting QB for the Raiders next season.
Either the start of during. They could just cut the nonsense and just start him.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:01 pm
‘Either the start or during’
January 12th, 2013 at 9:02 pm
edward teach Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 8:50 pm
797.Priesttj12 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 8:44 pm
edward teach Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 8:35 pm
771.Priesttj12 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 8:28 pm
Man everybody can see it it’s just that some don’t wnat to admit it.
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Stop being so melodramatic. I was speaking specifically about Mike Martz and the type of QB that does well in his system.
I have posted plenty of times about how dangerous an athletic QB can be if he can execute the passing game
at an NFL level, and you know it.
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But you also insist Palmer is better suited for Martz system over Pryor. I have to differ with you while Palmer is far and away more skilled from the pocket than Pryor that wont be the case in 2 years. Pryor is well suited for that offense with his mobility. You think he wont be as =effective from the pocket. That may be the case at the start of the year it wont be at the end. Martz system as the QB to be accountable for one defender and he has to know where to go with the football. BY midseason Pryor can ahve that system down if they give him the necessary reps.
Pryor’s only issue will be the speed of teh game initially once he cacthes up with that it’s a matter of execution…….period
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You might want to read my posts on the subject again. I said Palmer is a better fit RIGHT NOW. Never did I say that Pryor couldn’t succeed. I have no way of knowing that.
This isn’t the first time you’ve mischaracterized something I’ve written. Either read it as I’ve written it and comment on my actual words, or ignore them altogether. I’m getting tired of interpreting plain English for you becasue you have a preconcieved idea of what I’m saying.
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You just said what I feel, I didn’t say you said he couldn’t EVER succeed I was saying it isn’t automatic just because Martz is coming in Pryor is OUT!. So if that’s how you see it then we agree………..simple.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:02 pm
KK, it’s great that Kappy can run. But it should be towards the sideline. One of those downfield runs is going get him seriously injured as he gets his clock cleaned. Then the team is stuck if they don’t have a good backup.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:03 pm
Lefty12 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:00 pm
When I watch Kap i believe when,not if,when he gets a knee blown out he can still be a good QB because he can toss the rock.I haven’t seen that from Pryor yet.Not saying it can’t happen,just saying he hasn’t shown that ability yet.
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Passed for two TD’s. Look again
January 12th, 2013 at 9:04 pm
Pryor 3/3 in Red Zone. Pryor 38 yard dime to streater in coverage.
All well not playing in 2 1/2 years and getting NO REPS all year
January 12th, 2013 at 9:04 pm
RaiderSam Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:00 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 8:55 pm
SBreport@SBreport
Doubt the read-option all you like, but Pierre-Paul, DeMarcus Ware, and Clay Matthews don’t do mindless pirouettes for conventional QB’s.
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Pack has given up 82 yards in last 2 playoff losses..different dimension now
read option works, IF your QB is accurate
Listening Pryor?
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What is this accurate crap?? Let the TP get some first string reps and get soild with the WR’s timng.
He did have a Passing Efficiency Rating=(2010 Big Ten 157.9 (3rd)
January 12th, 2013 at 9:05 pm
Oh, a Passing Efficiency Rating=(2010 Big Ten 157.9 (3rd) running a pro style offense at Ohio state.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:05 pm
NFL rules are a perfect combination to a Mike Martz offense, Reggie & Dennis get him signed.
Denver’s secondary was exposed today, we should score five TDs minimum against Denver next season, and I do mean each game.
Bailey will either be a year older and two steps slower or retired.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:06 pm
lefty12 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:00 pm
When I watch Kap i believe when,not if,when he gets a knee blown out he can still be a good QB because he can toss the rock.I haven’t seen that from Pryor yet.Not saying it can’t happen,just saying he hasn’t shown that ability yet.
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The difference in the two Lefty12 is one has been coached by a great coach and the other guy had to rely on his starting QB for help-. Quite a bit different circumstances. Pryor should have been getting reps all year. But they were stupid and ignored the kid. thus 4-12
January 12th, 2013 at 9:07 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 7:47 pm
Crabtree is A GOD. Better than anyone on the Raiders, that’s for sure.
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Haha. That is comical. Crabtree was left alone for one TD and the other was a beautiful pass. Raiders receiver could play the same and do when the QB hits goods spots on passes, which is rare. Campbell and Palmer are less than average deep ball throwers. I see Flacco, Manning, Rogers, etc dropping passes in the basket much of the time. Not so much with any of our QB’s. If Flacco had a couple of nice passes today but he could have had 2 more TD’s on Bailey but he gave them Campbell/Palmer style accuracy.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:07 pm
Priest–where do u come up with ur ridiculous posts? Who exactly doesn’t know what an athletic qb can do? Who is it here that ur talking to? Cuz I think we all know. But we don’t have an athletic qb. We have an athlete PLAYING qb. Big difference. We don’t have kaepernick or Wilson or griffin or newton. Wish we did. We have a 6′4″ joe Webb.
Love the guys saying Pryor needs to “work hard ” at getting accurate. What do u think he been doing all his life? Kid can’t throw. Period.
And I’ll say it again. Anyone who watched Pryor in week 17 and thinks he’s a qb is an idiot.
Newsflash: nobody in the raiders org is preparing anything for Pryor. He’s nit in the plans. Reggie is smarter than that.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:08 pm
Let me say this I am against Mike Martz I would much prefer someone who’s not so caught up in his onw system that he can’t use obvious talent I’m not sure Martz is capable of using Pryor in a way he can be best utilized.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:10 pm
DHB is as big and fast/er as Torrey Smith. The difference is our QB’s (here and gone) cant hit DHB in stride down the field. When they do (rarely) it is 6.
I recall Palmer consistently making DHB come back 3 yards for the ball. Campbell routinely thre out of bounds on sideline. Raiders cant succeed like that.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:10 pm
Ah, the “magical coach” who will somehow teach Pryor to be something he has never been.
Coaches don’t make qb’s accurate.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:11 pm
EMRaiders Says:
Question for ya’ll,
what do you think would be more of a threat, a QB that can run like Barry Sanders, or a RB that can throw like Manning/Brady?
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The person you describe is the same either way, so your question is ‘At which position is this person more of a threat?’, correct? Because a so so QB that runs like Sanders isn’t gonna be a QB. And a RB that…well, you get the idea.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:11 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 8:55 pm
SBreport@SBreport
Doubt the read-option all you like, but Pierre-Paul, DeMarcus Ware, and Clay Matthews don’t do mindless pirouettes for conventional QB’s.
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I’ll bet you the Ravens or Patriots (again) don’t fall for that stuff. Watch.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:11 pm
Niners were much more insightful and have a true leader as a HC instead of a guy who wouldn’t know how to lead if he was given and instruction manuel.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:11 pm
Martz is VERY capable of using Pryor in the best way possible: as a WR.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:11 pm
Actually, I’d clone him and have both on the field.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:12 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:08 pm
Let me say this I am against Mike Martz I would much prefer someone who’s not so caught up in his onw system that he can’t use obvious talent I’m not sure Martz is capable of using Pryor in a way he can be best utilized.
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Exactly! That’s what we just got rid of.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:13 pm
morilla Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:11 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 8:55 pm
SBreport@SBreport
Doubt the read-option all you like, but Pierre-Paul, DeMarcus Ware, and Clay Matthews don’t do mindless pirouettes for conventional QB’s.
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I’ll bet you the Ravens or Patriots (again) don’t fall for that stuff. Watch.
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There is nothing either of them can do because you cannot prepare for it until you see it. That’s why Pryor will give so many teams problems you cannot prepare for hius talent.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:13 pm
Martz and Cstillo point to bye-bye ZBS, even if they were just interviews.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:13 pm
To compare PRyor to Kapp now is not a fair comparison. Pryor has had one game in which the gameplan was sort of made for him. And he went against a team that was going no where. So to say he is as good as Kapp or not is simply nonsense.
We don’t know how good he is. No one does. The talent is there, the physical ability is there too, but until he is put in a situation where he is the starting QB and the offense is build to his strenghts, we are not going to know for sure.
Can he be just as good as Kapp or better? Sure why not. Can he be the next big bust? Yes, that is possible as well. We just don’t have enough info and “tape” on him to make an educated judgement on him yet.
But like I said, the ability, talent, and determination all seem to be there. So one could say the chances for him working out are pretty good.
He does need to work on his throws though. Too many rainbows and not enough zip where it was needed. But that can be fixed with reps and good coaching.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:14 pm
What we need is an OC who is well-versed in multiple systems, can run a hybrid. Sean Payton is one of the few true hybrid coaches around. Someone in his coaching tree (like Carmichael) would be good. He would be capable of installing read-option packages in with a hybrid offense.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:15 pm
Pryor is a project. Projects belong on second-team field.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:15 pm
Scourge Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:02 pm
KK, it’s great that Kappy can run. But it should be towards the sideline. One of those downfield runs is going get him seriously injured as he gets his clock cleaned. Then the team is stuck if they don’t have a good backup.
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Alex Smith
3rd best qb in the league.
Might work.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:16 pm
EMRaiders Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:13 pm
To compare PRyor to Kapp now is not a fair comparison. Pryor has had one game in which the gameplan was sort of made for him. And he went against a team that was going no where. So to say he is as good as Kapp or not is simply nonsense.
We don’t know how good he is. No one does. The talent is there, the physical ability is there too, but until he is put in a situation where he is the starting QB and the offense is build to his strenghts, we are not going to know for sure.
Can he be just as good as Kapp or better? Sure why not. Can he be the next big bust? Yes, that is possible as well. We just don’t have enough info and “tape” on him to make an educated judgement on him yet.
But like I said, the ability, talent, and determination all seem to be there. So one could say the chances for him working out are pretty good.
He does need to work on his throws though. Too many rainbows and not enough zip where it was needed. But that can be fixed with reps and good coaching.
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Yes a logical comment. The SF offense is now catered around Kap.
Knapp offense was just crappy.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:16 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 5:30 pm
Kapy is getting exposed today, seen that coming from a mile away.
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I’m recalling your “Semi” credentials. Recommend some continuing education class’s. Then re-apply.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:17 pm
Saying Pryor hasn’t been getting professional coaching is reaching.But even if the coaching isn’t as good as other teams coaching,which I don’t believe,he still isn’t capable of completing throws other QBs fresh out of college routinely make and that is the problem.In his interview after the last game he repeated there was a throw he knew he could make.He said over and over “I know I can make that pass,I know I can make that pass”.I could be wrong but that says he doesn’t make it in practice,just like he didn’t make it in the game.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:17 pm
The Oracle Says:
DHB is as big and fast/er as Torrey Smith. The difference is our QB’s (here and gone) cant hit DHB in stride down the field. When they do (rarely) it is 6.
I recall Palmer consistently making DHB come back 3 yards for the ball. Campbell routinely thre out of bounds on sideline. Raiders cant succeed like that.
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You’re joking, I assume. The reason you’ve never seen DHB catch a ball in stride is because DHB has never caught a ball in stride. Not because there hasn’t been a ball to catch in stride. So the coaches played to his strengths. Wisely so, IMO, cause he’s dangerous with the ball in his hands.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:17 pm
You gotta be able to do multiple things, give multiple looks, and personnel packages, utilizing the array of talent on a roster.
Good blend of 3 and 4 wide vertical sets, of 22 personnel (2 rbs, 2 tes) with power rushing, play-action, as well as wco horizontal yac stuff, and mix in read-option in the pistol formation.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:17 pm
Name me the last qb who came in the league with horrible throwing technique, who turned into a qb star?
This might take awhile.
Pryor has been throwing a football for 10 years.
Why does anyone think he’ll mysteriously get better in an offseason?
January 12th, 2013 at 9:17 pm
U guys keep acting like Pryor will be involved. There is no evidence at all to suggest he will be. “He has earned the right to be further evaluated.” Oh yes. Very high praise indeed.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:19 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:11 pm
EMRaiders Says:
Question for ya’ll,
what do you think would be more of a threat, a QB that can run like Barry Sanders, or a RB that can throw like Manning/Brady?
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The person you describe is the same either way, so your question is ‘At which position is this person more of a threat?’, correct? Because a so so QB that runs like Sanders isn’t gonna be a QB. And a RB that…well, you get the idea.
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lol… good answer. Though I meant to imply that they were good at their “named position” as well. So the QB would be a good QB, and the RB would be a good RB.
But yes, your answer does bring up a good point, perfect example, good ol’ timmy.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:20 pm
Dr_robert Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:17 pm
U guys keep acting like Pryor will be involved. There is no evidence at all to suggest he will be. “He has earned the right to be further evaluated.” Oh yes. Very high praise indeed.
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SOURCE: McKenzie is heavily considering cutting Palmer it’s 50/50 right now. Decision could happen sooner than later
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Raiders could save 13 Mil by cutting Palmer. That is what his contract is for 2013.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:20 pm
Lefty12 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:17 pm
Saying Pryor hasn’t been getting professional coaching is reaching.But even if the coaching isn’t as good as other teams coaching,which I don’t believe,he still isn’t capable of completing throws other QBs fresh out of college routinely make and that is the problem.In his interview after the last game he repeated there was a throw he knew he could make.He said over and over “I know I can make that pass,I know I can make that pass”.I could be wrong but that says he doesn’t make it in practice,just like he didn’t make it in the game.
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Threw 2 TD’s look again
January 12th, 2013 at 9:20 pm
Also, I agree with Crabtree vs DHB debate here. Crabtree has been a beast last two or three games. He has solid hands, sticks them out and hauls them in. DHB is better as a YAC threat imo. He’s just not that good deep, doesn’t track the ball well over the shoulder with solid hands, drops a lot of hand catches, jumps with that one hand hauling in motion too much as well.
I like DHB’s character etc but Mike Wallace for instance is what DHB was intended to be when drafted and he just isn’t that.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:21 pm
Reality time. Palmer is our qb for two more years at least. Pryor sucks as a passer. Time to bring in a guy who can run a real offense with our real qb. Quit smoking ur pipe dream.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:21 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:17 pm
The Oracle Says:
DHB is as big and fast/er as Torrey Smith. The difference is our QB’s (here and gone) cant hit DHB in stride down the field. When they do (rarely) it is 6.
I recall Palmer consistently making DHB come back 3 yards for the ball. Campbell routinely thre out of bounds on sideline. Raiders cant succeed like that.
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You’re joking, I assume. The reason you’ve never seen DHB catch a ball in stride is because DHB has never caught a ball in stride. Not because there hasn’t been a ball to catch in stride. So the coaches played to his strengths. Wisely so, IMO, cause he’s dangerous with the ball in his hands.
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Joking? No. Plenty of video to prove it. Yes DHB is the hardest Raider WR to tackle after the catch.
Has he dropped some balls, yes. But what I wont type something I haven’t confirmed by video review.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:21 pm
843-Priest are you saying a HC that has won a SB doesn’t know what he is doing and can’t lead a team?
January 12th, 2013 at 9:25 pm
Dr_robert Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:21 pm
Reality time. Palmer is our qb for two more years at least. Pryor sucks as a passer. Time to bring in a guy who can run a real offense with our real qb. Quit smoking ur pipe dream.
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This may be just a “Rumor” but you better bet there is some validity to it.
Oakland Raiders News @RaiderNewsFlash
REPORT: Reggie McKenzie discussing cutting Carson Palmer.
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SOURCE: McKenzie is heavily considering cutting Palmer it’s 50/50 right now. Decision could happen sooner than later
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Raiders could save 13 Mil by cutting Palmer. That is what his contract is for 2013.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:25 pm
Cutting Palmer would be a surprise if for only the fact that I thought his cap hit made it cheaper to keep him, at 16Mil?! If the cutting rumor is true, there must be an out in the contract.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:25 pm
RaidO– that’s ur source? They’re not even a real media outlet. They sound like guys In here. They don’t even know what a cap hit the raiders would take if they cut Palmer. Idiotic.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:27 pm
lefty12 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:17 pm
Saying Pryor hasn’t been getting professional coaching is reaching.But even if the coaching isn’t as good as other teams coaching,which I don’t believe,he still isn’t capable of completing throws other QBs fresh out of college routinely make and that is the problem.In his interview after the last game he repeated there was a throw he knew he could make.He said over and over “I know I can make that pass,I know I can make that pass”.I could be wrong but that says he doesn’t make it in practice,just like he didn’t make it in the game
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Lefty12, I think you are reaching for naything you can find to say what he cannot or does not do. If he says he can, just maybe he’s telling the truth. Maybe he has done it because I have seen Pryor play 200% better than what I saw him play in that game. He was OK but he missed easy throws he normally makes and was trying to hard to be great instead of just playing.
But al will see next year when he get in there and performs like HE knows he can. You guys ar4e going to doubt everythijng he says and does because that’s what you want to believe. HE MADE plays that Palmer and Leinart had NOT and did it with little help and very few reps. Yet you keep talking about what he can’t do.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:27 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 5:30 pm
Kapy is getting exposed today, seen that coming from a mile away.
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Oh sure. 183 yds rushing, more than any other qb in the history of the NFL. Not the playoffs, all time, any game, any time.
and just happened to outplay and beat the best qb inthe league. That’s all.
I’ve already ordered my Kap jersey
January 12th, 2013 at 9:28 pm
KK,quit ignoring what I am saying.When his knees are blown out will he still be able to scramble around so he will have the time to make those throws?Have you seen any proof he can carry the team JUST passing the ball?BTW,neither throw was great.One the WR was left open,the other DHB made a nice adjustment come back for the ball.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:28 pm
There is no rumor. Citing that group is like citing priest as ur source. Just fans running off at the mouth. But I don’t expect u guys to know the difference between a credible need source and a nonsense one, given that u can’t recognize the difference between a real qb and a pretend one.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:28 pm
Bring back knapp. give him another year to get it right. That way, Mark can fire him, DA and Big Mac.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:28 pm
The only thing keeping Palmer around is his contract.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:29 pm
lefty12 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:21 pm
843-Priest are you saying a HC that has won a SB doesn’t know what he is doing and can’t lead a team?
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Lefty12, we all know he was along for the ride……..period
January 12th, 2013 at 9:29 pm
EMRaiders Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 8:45 pm
[snip]
That won’t be repeated ever again.
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But why not, EMR? When you think about it, it might be better than either of the options you offered in your original post. If you have a QB who’s a good kicker (K or P), it might open another slot on your team that you can use to fill a need or improve upon what you have. Given what QBs are being paid nowadays, you might get more scoring production out of a QB/K or QB/P. It would be safer than having a QB who can run (and get seriously injured running).
January 12th, 2013 at 9:30 pm
KoolKell Says:
I’m recalling your “Semi” credentials. Recommend some continuing education class’s. Then re-apply.
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We can find plenty of incorrect takes from the real KK in the archives. Tell us who you’ve been and we’ll do the same for you. I still think you’re Norco and, if so, no research required.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:31 pm
Raiders are going to cut or trade Palmer, Pryor, Mcfadden, Goodson, Reece, Stewart, Myers, Ausberry, Smith, Barnes, Briesel, Wiz, Cooper, VElh, DHB, DMOORE, Streater, Criner, FOrd, HAGAN, Shaugnessy, Houston, Carter, kelly, bryant, bilu, crawford, Burris, huff, branch, gio, i know some of that will come true and i will tell you i told you so, and the ones that didn’t happen i will just say i never mentioned them LOL
January 12th, 2013 at 9:31 pm
Lefty12 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:28 pm
KK,quit ignoring what I am saying.When his knees are blown out will he still be able to scramble around so he will have the time to make those throws?Have you seen any proof he can carry the team JUST passing the ball?BTW,neither throw was great.One the WR was left open,the other DHB made a nice adjustment come back for the ball.
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Hasn’t played since 2010 , threw 2 TD’s. Converted 53% of 3rd downs, what’s your problem?
January 12th, 2013 at 9:32 pm
The Oracle Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:25 pm
Cutting Palmer would be a surprise if for only the fact that I thought his cap hit made it cheaper to keep him, at 16Mil?! If the cutting rumor is true, there must be an out in the contract.
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$7.5 mil if they cut him but that is due over 2 years. That’s his signing bonus he gets no mater what. So it would only be about $3.8 mil per year on the cap. He will NOT be back in 2014 when he is owed $15 mil. He is owed $13 mil next season so if he takes a cut down to say $10 mil Raiders would be paying about $17.5 mil for one year to keep Palmer.
CUT PALMER…
January 12th, 2013 at 9:32 pm
How difficult is it to teach/train an athlete to be a QB, RB, or K/P?
January 12th, 2013 at 9:32 pm
Reggie needs to find a way to trade for Kapp and get Lynch from the seahawks. Big run threat and QB threat. Could put up 65+ points a game and go to the superbowl. Git on down with it Big Mac, and hire Davis Shaw for HC. Tired of the Raiders suckin balls every year. We shoulda been playin this week end and hostin the Champ game next week end.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:33 pm
Kaepernick is the perfect qb. Black athleticism and white brains.
Just kidding. I had to say it though. Kinda funny.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:33 pm
Those enamored with Pryor need to remember he was only running 20%-30% of the playbook vs. San Diego.
Being “ready” means running the majority of a playbook, for one.
Then, there are his passing skills.
Yes, we understand he can run for yards. BFD.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:34 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:27 pm
lefty12 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:17 pm
Saying Pryor hasn’t been getting professional coaching is reaching.But even if the coaching isn’t as good as other teams coaching,which I don’t believe,he still isn’t capable of completing throws other QBs fresh out of college routinely make and that is the problem.In his interview after the last game he repeated there was a throw he knew he could make.He said over and over “I know I can make that pass,I know I can make that pass”.I could be wrong but that says he doesn’t make it in practice,just like he didn’t make it in the game
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Lefty12, I think you are reaching for naything you can find to say what he cannot or does not do. If he says he can, just maybe he’s telling the truth. Maybe he has done it because I have seen Pryor play 200% better than what I saw him play in that game. He was OK but he missed easy throws he normally makes and was trying to hard to be great instead of just playing.
But al will see next year when he get in there and performs like HE knows he can. You guys ar4e going to doubt everythijng he says and does because that’s what you want to believe. HE MADE plays that Palmer and Leinart had NOT and did it with little help and very few reps. Yet you keep talking about what he can’t do.
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And you keep talking about what he SAYS he CAN do.
Words are cheap. You don’t get that? No one ever talked a good td, or run. Show us, or stop preaching how “if this” and “if that” will make a difference.
Excuses.
Excuses.
All I hear are excuses.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:34 pm
I look at Vick and Palmer’s contracts the same. Vick salary is $15 mil next season and Palmer is $13 mil. Both are not worth the contracts. Both should be cut.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:34 pm
Scourge Says:
But why not, EMR? When you think about it, it might be better than either of the options you offered in your original post. If you have a QB who’s a good kicker (K or P), it might open another slot on your team that you can use to fill a need or improve upon what you have. Given what QBs are being paid nowadays, you might get more scoring production out of a QB/K or QB/P. It would be safer than having a QB who can run (and get seriously injured running).
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We could ease into it by retaining Lechler as #3 QB. As he has been for several games in his career, including one this year. M King clouds up that scenario, though.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:34 pm
Cutting Palmer would have made much more sense last year, so cutting him this year is basically addmitting you’re rebuilding, so DA and Reg want to admit rebuild in year 2? LMAO
January 12th, 2013 at 9:35 pm
Priest,why would I as a Raider fan want him to fail?Use your head and think.I just don’t believe he can pass well enough to be a professional QB,just as I feel Tebow can’t pass well enough to be a professional QB.They are one and the same to me at this point.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:35 pm
Does anybody else here prefer to see Brady win over the 49ers? I would rather have any team win over them. Kaepernick was great running the ball. How come Green Bay could not have one guy on him at all times? Denver was a fraud. 13-3 and let Flacco throw on them all day as if he was Tom Brady. And how did that idiot corner let them tie the game? Denver may never recover from that devastating defeat.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:35 pm
dr_robert Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:33 pm
Kaepernick is the perfect qb. Black athleticism and white brains.
Just kidding. I had to say it though. Kinda funny.
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Racist POS mthfker. Never ever say you aren’t racist again.
Ever.
Understand me, boy?
January 12th, 2013 at 9:35 pm
Most of you may disagree with me but I think it would be interesting if each player on a team had to learn two positions: their primary position and a secondary position. It may sound like ironman football but I think it would help teams deal with injuries. It would also help some players play their primary position (i.e., WR learn how to play the secondary and secondary players learn to play WR).
January 12th, 2013 at 9:36 pm
Priest just said we all know martz was just along for the ride with the greatest show on turf. He seriously just said that. Is there a reason anyone even entertains anything he says at this point?
January 12th, 2013 at 9:37 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:35 pm
dr_robert Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:33 pm
Kaepernick is the perfect qb. Black athleticism and white brains.
Just kidding. I had to say it though. Kinda funny.
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Racist POS mthfker. Never ever say you aren’t racist again.
Ever.
Understand me, boy?
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You tell him troll, good boy
January 12th, 2013 at 9:37 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:35 pm
dr_robert Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:33 pm
Kaepernick is the perfect qb. Black athleticism and white brains.
Just kidding. I had to say it though. Kinda funny.
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Racist POS mthfker. Never ever say you aren’t racist again.
Ever.
Understand me, boy?
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Your stupid KK
January 12th, 2013 at 9:37 pm
lefty12 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:28 pm
KK,quit ignoring what I am saying.When his knees are blown out will he still be able to scramble around so he will have the time to make those throws?Have you seen any proof he can carry the team JUST passing the ball?BTW,neither throw was great.One the WR was left open,the other DHB made a nice adjustment come back for the ball.
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Bottom line he threw it they caught it…period
But I guess that aint enough when he does it.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:39 pm
Bailey and Woodson were exposed today, time for both to wait 5 years and be first ballot HOF.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:39 pm
Lol! Kell getting all worked up. It was a JOKE u idiot. Is ur humor button turned off or something?
January 12th, 2013 at 9:39 pm
RaidO Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:32 pm
The Oracle Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:25 pm
Cutting Palmer would be a surprise if for only the fact that I thought his cap hit made it cheaper to keep him, at 16Mil?! If the cutting rumor is true, there must be an out in the contract.
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$7.5 mil if they cut him but that is due over 2 years. That’s his signing bonus he gets no mater what. So it would only be about $3.8 mil per year on the cap. He will NOT be back in 2014 when he is owed $15 mil. He is owed $13 mil next season so if he takes a cut down to say $10 mil Raiders would be paying about $17.5 mil for one year to keep Palmer.
CUT PALMER…
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Those “cut” figures would lend to the rumor he could be cut. I would think Reg wants Palmer here until his replacement is on the roster or on the way.
I believe they will look at adjusting down before any cut. Looking at his production and numbers, I would take him for another year at 7.6 mil.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:39 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
Raiders are going to cut or trade Palmer, Pryor, Mcfadden, Goodson, Reece, Stewart, Myers, Ausberry, Smith, Barnes, Briesel, Wiz, Cooper, VElh, DHB, DMOORE, Streater, Criner, FOrd, HAGAN, Shaugnessy, Houston, Carter, kelly, bryant, bilu, crawford, Burris, huff, branch, gio, i know some of that will come true and i will tell you i told you so, and the ones that didn’t happen i will just say i never mentioned them LOL
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Every good psychic can document remarkably accurate predictions they’ve made in the past by just such chicanery.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:41 pm
Dr_robert Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:33 pm
Kaepernick is the perfect qb. Black athleticism and white brains.
Just kidding. I had to say it though. Kinda funny.
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Yup there is the hidden “agenda” Dr robert spews on this blog. We know why your such a hater when it comes to TP
January 12th, 2013 at 9:41 pm
lefty12 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:35 pm
Priest,why would I as a Raider fan want him to fail?Use your head and think.I just don’t believe he can pass well enough to be a professional QB,just as I feel Tebow can’t pass well enough to be a professional QB.They are one and the same to me at this point.
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Didn’t say you couldn’t have your own opinion just saying let him get a chance to prove you wrong. I have seen the guy throw extremely well his 1st game was very average for his talent. But you’ll see whay I mean…
January 12th, 2013 at 9:42 pm
EMRaiders Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 8:39 pm
Question for ya’ll,
what do you think would be more of a threat, a QB that can run like Barry Sanders, or a RB that can throw like Manning/Brady?
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Only Barry Sanders ran like Barry Sanders.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:43 pm
I think we can all agree that even though the Raiders are done, it’s kind of nice having another team in the Bay Area to follow, and support?
January 12th, 2013 at 9:44 pm
All the dumbbell Pryor supporters don’t realize what cutting Palmer would mean. It would mean Reggie is picking a qb at #3.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:45 pm
whiners lover still on the Raiders blog?
January 12th, 2013 at 9:47 pm
I watched the Niner game and enjoyed it I’m sick of GB and was glad to see Kappy shred gtheir defense. People been hating on him lijke Raider fans hate on Pryor. Niner fans want Smith back in there. But Kappy showed ‘em as will Pryor.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:47 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:41 pm
lefty12 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:35 pm
Priest,why would I as a Raider fan want him to fail?Use your head and think.I just don’t believe he can pass well enough to be a professional QB,just as I feel Tebow can’t pass well enough to be a professional QB.They are one and the same to me at this point.
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Didn’t say you couldn’t have your own opinion just saying let him get a chance to prove you wrong. I have seen the guy throw extremely well his 1st game was very average for his talent. But you’ll see whay I mean…
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You’ve seen what we’ve seen. PERIOD.
See, it’s called a TV. On weekends? Sats? college ball. We turn on channel, and there it is. Same as you. We watch. Same as you.
Difference is you block out what you don’t want to remember, then come here, blind as a bat.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:47 pm
beach Says:
And how did that idiot corner let them tie the game? Denver may never recover from that devastating defeat.
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I wish.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:47 pm
dr_robert Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:44 pm
All the dumbbell Pryor supporters don’t realize what cutting Palmer would mean. It would mean Reggie is picking a qb at #3.
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you’re arguing with idiots, you can have every black guys jersey in the wardrobe, but if you criticize pryor obvious flaw (his passing game) they will call you a racist
January 12th, 2013 at 9:47 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:43 pm
I think we can all agree that even though the Raiders are done, it’s kind of nice having another team in the Bay Area to follow, and support?
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Speak for yourself. My viewpoint is phuch the 9ers.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:49 pm
Kap far better then carson
January 12th, 2013 at 9:49 pm
Niners will be a very tough out….
Seahawks have to come to SF this time..
January 12th, 2013 at 9:50 pm
Kaernick will get 650,000
Carson Palmer will get about 15 Million next year!
January 12th, 2013 at 9:50 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:47 pm
I watched the Niner game and enjoyed it I’m sick of GB and was glad to see Kappy shred gtheir defense. People been hating on him lijke Raider fans hate on Pryor. Niner fans want Smith back in there. But Kappy showed ‘em as will Pryor.
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Geez you are such a lying dumbass. Who hated on him? Where? You lying dog. Ppl been hating on Smith for years because he “cautiously” wins. Fans love that Kap wins aggresively.
I’m sure the little old lady you run into at the smokeshop likes Alex, but it’s pretty much 25-1 on support for Kap.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:50 pm
Kaep is much more likeable than Smith, Kaep is having fun , i would def hate for the whiners to win but it would be good for the kid, he went through a lot
January 12th, 2013 at 9:50 pm
So Denver and Green Bay are out. Those are the two suspected “direct lines” of recruitment for our front office executives, right. Lets see if it comes to fruition, the suspicion that is.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:51 pm
Priest,you really disappoint.He made the throws,he got TDs,fine.What happens in a year or two and he blows out his knees?What happens when teams game plan for just his running and keep him in the pocket and make him beat them throwing the ball?Are we building a team for a 1-3 year run or trying to set the organization for extended success?I’m not saying at some point he can’t pass the ball,but right now I sure as he!! wouldn’t want to have to rely on it to carry the team with his arm.And while we lose because our QB is learning,will you give the GM and coaches a pass?
January 12th, 2013 at 9:51 pm
RaidO–don’t be a retard. It was a joke. I love Pryor. But not as a qb. If he was as good of a passer as kaepernick, then I would live him at qb. Not thinking Pryor is a qb doesn’t mean I’m “hating on him”. That’s the most overused bullsh1t going. He can’t pass. As a knowledgable football fan, I know this and see no reason to buy into nonsense.
I hope we get geno smith. How are u gonna paint me as a racist then?
I LOVED it when we picked up Aaron brooks and daunte culpepper. (Disappointed in results though).
One of my fab non-raiders is josh freeman. Drafted him as my fantasy qb the last two years.
But u keep slinging around the racist accusations, which is asinine.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:52 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:47 pm
I watched the Niner game and enjoyed it I’m sick of GB and was glad to see Kappy shred gtheir defense. People been hating on him lijke Raider fans hate on Pryor. Niner fans want Smith back in there. But Kappy showed ‘em as will Pryor.
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the whole nation would love to have Kap over Pryor right now, unless Pryor can show he can make as good decisions as kap n can throw it as well as kap did
January 12th, 2013 at 9:53 pm
Kaepernick was pretty close to being a Raider.
Thats about as good as it gets for being a Raider fan the last 10 years
January 12th, 2013 at 9:53 pm
The Oracle Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:50 pm
So Denver and Green Bay are out. Those are the two suspected “direct lines” of recruitment for our front office executives, right. Lets see if it comes to fruition, the suspicion that is.
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*nods*
January 12th, 2013 at 9:53 pm
The Oracle Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:47 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:43 pm
I think we can all agree that even though the Raiders are done, it’s kind of nice having another team in the Bay Area to follow, and support?
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Speak for yourself. My viewpoint is phuch the 9ers.
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That’s because you’re a small bitter man, who feels threatened by the presence of a quality team, unlike the Raiders. You hate them because you envy them.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:54 pm
Yep wont be suprised if the next OC comes from the Packers. Gonne interview them
Its gonna be Carmichael, Martz, Kroemer or some Packer guy as OC
January 12th, 2013 at 9:54 pm
Edward Teach Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 8:05 pm
709.morilla Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 7:57 pm
Edward Teach Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 7:53 pm
679.RaiderSam Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 7:43 pm
Edward Teach Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 7:40 pm
Kappy is ballin’ tonight. Sure would be fun to see him and Russell Wilson go at it in the championship game.
Russell’s got a tough game tomorrow, though. That one’s on his defense though, because the Falcons have weapons. If Seattle can’t slow them down Wilson’s going to have to have the game of his life.
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Falcons need to beat the Seahawks and get that choke tag off their back once and for all. I think if they can stop the beast its ok
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Matt Ryan is still a young QB, and his three playoff losses have all been to the eventual NFC representative in the Super Bowl (the last two won).
Still too early to call them choke artists, although it won’t stop people from doing just that.
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Oh they are. I lived there for over ten years. Even the people that live there call them choke artists.
I can’t stand that team. Went to a Raider game when I lived there. Horrible experience . Rednecks and cheap beer.
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Crazy. I can understand disppointment, but calling a young team like that choke artists because they lost to who they lost to makes no sense.
Madden’s in the Hall of Fame. It took him awhile to win the big one, too. Imagine what they’d be saying about him nowadays.
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I think Atlanta will advance…but they will have to stop Lynch. Seattle built very similar to S.f with big, physical corners and powerful line play up front.
May come down to Wilson making a mistake.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:54 pm
For some reason i’m having trouble feeling sorry for Peyton Manning after this game.
I’ve always liked him, but much less since he decided to play for Denver.
All this talk of Manning this and Manning that and the 24/7 coverage…and at the end of the day it turns out that Tim Tebow actually accomplished more.
Tebow at least won a playoff game for Denver.
Manning…after all the nauseating hype ends up being one and done.
All I can say is…”HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA”.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:55 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:53 pm
The Oracle Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:47 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:43 pm
I think we can all agree that even though the Raiders are done, it’s kind of nice having another team in the Bay Area to follow, and support?
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Speak for yourself. My viewpoint is phuch the 9ers.
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That’s because you’re a small bitter man, who feels threatened by the presence of a quality team, unlike the Raiders. You hate them because you envy them.
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it doesn’t come from the hate for team, its because of their phaggot ass fans
January 12th, 2013 at 9:55 pm
I have a feeling one of these “New Wave QB’s” will be the ultimate SB champ. Kappy looks awesome, Wilson very efficient one of the will be playing for the SB trophy and which ever it is will win it.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:55 pm
Dont forget that the SF oline allows Kaps success, even the runs. Without the line’s blocking, he wouldn’t get to run free so much, he would be had more often.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:55 pm
G’d night, all
January 12th, 2013 at 9:55 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:52 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:47 pm
I watched the Niner game and enjoyed it I’m sick of GB and was glad to see Kappy shred gtheir defense. People been hating on him lijke Raider fans hate on Pryor. Niner fans want Smith back in there. But Kappy showed ‘em as will Pryor.
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the whole nation would love to have Kap over Pryor right now, unless Pryor can show he can make as good decisions as kap n can throw it as well as kap did
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If Martz is hired, thats a wrap for Pryor.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:57 pm
Lol. Priest lying his azz off. Saying kaepernick is being “hated on”. Niners fans love him. They don’t like Alex. Just dumb.
I love how priest and missdick always act like they’ve seen secret footage is Pryor we don’t know about. Telling us they know and “we will see”. We’ve seen everything u have dummy.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:57 pm
Martz is another guy, like Knapp, who only knows one thing. Players are secondary.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:57 pm
dr_robert Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:51 pm
RaidO–don’t be a retard. It was a joke. I love Pryor. But not as a qb. If he was as good of a passer as kaepernick, then I would live him at qb. Not thinking Pryor is a qb doesn’t mean I’m “hating on him”. That’s the most overused bullsh1t going. He can’t pass. As a knowledgable football fan, I know this and see no reason to buy into nonsense.
I hope we get geno smith. How are u gonna paint me as a racist then?
I LOVED it when we picked up Aaron brooks and daunte culpepper. (Disappointed in results though).
One of my fab non-raiders is josh freeman. Drafted him as my fantasy qb the last two years.
But u keep slinging around the racist accusations, which is asinine.
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dr_robert Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:33 pm
Kaepernick is the perfect qb. Black athleticism and white brains.
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EXPOSED. Forever. You post this and then state “oh, haha, just kidding”? fuk off you racist POS
January 12th, 2013 at 9:57 pm
All the smart kids in here (and the nfl GMs) know this:
“we don’t have an athletic qb. We have an athlete PLAYING qb. Big difference. We don’t have kaepernick or Wilson or griffin or newton. Wish we did. We have a 6′4″ joe Webb.
Love the guys saying Pryor needs to “work hard ” at getting accurate. What do u think he been doing all his life? Kid can’t throw. Period.”
Jump passing 12 for 28 and compared to kaep??? Wow.
And I’ll say it again. Anyone who watched Pryor in week 17 and thinks he’s a qb is an idiot.
Newsflash: nobody in the raiders org is preparing anything for Pryor. He’s nit in the plans. Reggie is smarter than that.e smart kids know this (along with NFL GMs):
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January 12th, 2013 at 9:58 pm
Tim Tebow ends his home playoff game with a 75 yd. TD against Pittsburgh and the great Peyton Manning ends his with an int. to lose the game.
It was all for nothing. All the hype all the b.s…..ZIP.
Congratulations. LMFAO.
January 12th, 2013 at 9:58 pm
Drew & Eli did not make playoffs, Aaron & Peyton eliminated already, only Tom left of Elite top five qb status:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:58 pm
kool kell beech and mistic n one another guy love to use word expose a lot hmmmmm…
January 12th, 2013 at 9:59 pm
being an Oakland A’s fan and watching their season this year, become a fan at looking at the numbers closely.
Im talking the payroll. How much you can get out of a player for a fraction of the cost.
U look at the big money thrown around at Anaheim, Yankees, and Rangers.
Then u look at the A’s with a smart GM who picked up bargain players or made key trades for their team and took them along way. Took them to AL champions out against the high payroll of the Rangers.
I look at manning who got 20 milly this year because he is a good qb.. 100 milly over 5 years.
Then I see a guy like Kap, who is making nowhere near that, or Tebow was making peanuts compared to that.
Now I know Reggie is looking at hte payroll now seeing wehre he can cut cost and get more money to bring in Key FA’s on the defense. Money must be cut this year somehow.
It doesnt take a Raider insider to know he is looking at the guys with the highest Payroll on the team. Debating where or not they are worth keeping. Gutting the Roster = Rebuilding a TEAM.
Not just a collection of Talent.. but TEAM
January 12th, 2013 at 9:59 pm
dr_robert Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:36 pm
Priest just said we all know martz was just along for the ride with the greatest show on turf. He seriously just said that. Is there a reason anyone even entertains anything he says at this point?
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I thought they were talkin about DA, no? As in DA was along for the ride with Saints….hard to argue that
January 12th, 2013 at 9:59 pm
I hope Atlanta beats Seattle. I am rooting for Tony Gonzalez to get to the Super Bowl!
January 12th, 2013 at 9:59 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:55 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:53 pm
The Oracle Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:47 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:43 pm
I think we can all agree that even though the Raiders are done, it’s kind of nice having another team in the Bay Area to follow, and support?
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Speak for yourself. My viewpoint is phuch the 9ers.
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That’s because you’re a small bitter man, who feels threatened by the presence of a quality team, unlike the Raiders. You hate them because you envy them.
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it doesn’t come from the hate for team, its because of their phaggot ass fans
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You had an affair with one of their fans?
Were you the man, or the woman?
Both?
January 12th, 2013 at 10:00 pm
I’m supposedly a racist Pryor hater and Palmer worshiper (neither is true) but here’s one for u:
I would take griffin, newton, Wilson, or kaepernick, not to mention freeman, over Palmer right now.
But I’d take Matt Flynn over Pryor.
January 12th, 2013 at 10:00 pm
Sam,Madden would be hated on this blog if he was the Raider coach today.We eked out wins,played conservatively,and lost more league championship games than we won.
January 12th, 2013 at 10:01 pm
and u are joking if u think Pryor is like WEB. Pryor actually scored and looked good against a Defense that had their ears pinned back.
3tds is nothing to joke about especially after 2 1/2 yrs off a real game.
Chargers had 11 sacks the week b4 against mcElroy
January 12th, 2013 at 10:01 pm
Jarvis Jones or Mingo this year
Alabama qb next year.
Palmer in 2013.
Set.
January 12th, 2013 at 10:02 pm
alex7 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:57 pm
All the smart kids in here (and the nfl GMs) know this:
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LMFAO! no you didn’t lol. I knew you were like 12 or somethin
January 12th, 2013 at 10:02 pm
it doesn’t come from the hate for team, its because of their phaggot ass fans
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You had an affair with one of their fans?
Were you the man, or the woman?
Both?
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it’s their smug looks (we’re better than you guys) i hate, won’t you hate if some one told you Palmer is better than Pryor cuz he’s white? it’s the same thing
January 12th, 2013 at 10:02 pm
lefty12 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:51 pm
Priest,you really disappoint.He made the throws,he got TDs,fine.What happens in a year or two and he blows out his knees?What happens when teams game plan for just his running and keep him in the pocket and make him beat them throwing the ball?Are we building a team for a 1-3 year run or trying to set the organization for extended success?I’m not saying at some point he can’t pass the ball,but right now I sure as he!! wouldn’t want to have to rely on it to carry the team with his arm.And while we lose because our QB is learning,will you give the GM and coaches a pass?
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We wont lose more games with him than we will without him, I feel he can win games better than anyone else we have. As far as him blowing out his knee, any QB can blow out the kneee and be just as good a year later. Pryor can beta you from the pocket as well as any other QB as he gets his reps. I’ve said that a thousand times, he can play form the pocket. He just has world class speed to go with it. Same as kappy he cna play from the pocket but he doesn’t have to he cna run also. That is the ONLY difference betwen them and any other QB alive. Pryor’s arm is stronger than Mannings all he needs is reps. You think he will NEVER be able to do that I say he’ll be able to do NEXT year………….period
January 12th, 2013 at 10:03 pm
Kapernick almost being a Raider
and last years articles stating Reggie and Raiders scouts spending the most Time with Russell WIlson at the senior bowl is about as good as it gets for being a Raider fan the last ten years
January 12th, 2013 at 10:03 pm
realtruraider Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 10:02 pm
alex7 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:57 pm
All the smart kids in here (and the nfl GMs) know this:
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LMFAO! no you didn’t lol. I knew you were like 12 or somethin
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Are you that same guy who was saying i’m 14 from different ID? Hmmm..
January 12th, 2013 at 10:03 pm
Kell–aww. U really don’t have a sense of humor do u? Maybe u should go see the great and powerful oz (1978 all-black version with Diana Ross and Michael Jackson?)
January 12th, 2013 at 10:03 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:53 pm
The Oracle Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:47 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:43 pm
I think we can all agree that even though the Raiders are done, it’s kind of nice having another team in the Bay Area to follow, and support?
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Speak for yourself. My viewpoint is phuch the 9ers.
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That’s because you’re a small bitter man, who feels threatened by the presence of a quality team, unlike the Raiders. You hate them because you envy them.
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The small man is the one who supports and shows allegiance to those who are not his own. That is you. The phony traitor.
“hey guys, even though this is a Raider blog, hip hip hooray for the niners.”-KoolKell
GTFOH you traitor sissy.
January 12th, 2013 at 10:04 pm
The SD defense…was making off season golf plans.
And Pryor went 12 for 28 for 150 yards. Jump passing.
Wow he scored a gift TD when SDs punt was blocked inside our 10 yd line.
January 12th, 2013 at 10:05 pm
It just cracks me up to no ends when people feel just because a QB is athletic he can’t throw as well as a QB who cannot run. Pryor and Kappy can be very effective from the pocket as they get used to the speed of the game the same as any other QB who plays this game.
January 12th, 2013 at 10:06 pm
Who cares if Kap and WIlson are not here, 1 guy doesn’t make the whole team and D wins champs, proven by Seattle having the best D , SF being top 5 D, GB D s8cks, if not for minny starting a bad qb, they would have beaten GB
January 12th, 2013 at 10:06 pm
KoolKell Says:
That’s because you’re a small bitter man, who feels threatened by the presence of a quality team, unlike the Raiders. You hate them because you envy them.
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Yep, that’s Norco. ‘JonGruden2013′ and ‘AmysinCharge’ for the uninitiated.
January 12th, 2013 at 10:06 pm
Worst knock on Pryor? Priest and missdick’s support. Huge red flags, as they are well documented morons.
January 12th, 2013 at 10:06 pm
941-actually he was talking about Mike McCarthy being along for the ride when GB won their SB.
January 12th, 2013 at 10:06 pm
It’s always either/or for some people.
January 12th, 2013 at 10:07 pm
Mcfadden20
Might want to look up “figure of speech”
Sad raider fans, thinking Pryor is more kaepernick than Joe Webb, tebow, and pat white.
Desperation is sad.
January 12th, 2013 at 10:07 pm
Dr_robert Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 10:06 pm
Worst knock on Pryor? Priest and missdick’s support. Huge red flags, as they are well documented morons.
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Exactly. smh.
January 12th, 2013 at 10:08 pm
The Oracle Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 10:03 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:53 pm
The Oracle Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:47 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:43 pm
I think we can all agree that even though the Raiders are done, it’s kind of nice having another team in the Bay Area to follow, and support?
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Speak for yourself. My viewpoint is phuch the 9ers.
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That’s because you’re a small bitter man, who feels threatened by the presence of a quality team, unlike the Raiders. You hate them because you envy them.
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The small man is the one who supports and shows allegiance to those who are not his own. That is you. The phony traitor.
“hey guys, even though this is a Raider blog, hip hip hooray for the niners.”-KoolKell
GTFOH you traitor sissy.
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Yup a whiners fan, but he thinks he can really play that with us lol
January 12th, 2013 at 10:08 pm
Oh really they were making golf plans.
Did so was Eric Weddle Making golf plans when he knocked the crap out of Streater?
Was Takeo Spikes making golf plans when he got in a fight with Goodson then ROID RAGED the Fug out on the refs wanting to be in the game?
Was Melvin Ingram making Golf plans when he was chasing Pryor down like a mad man
Was Melvin making golf plans when he knocked the FUG out of COYE FRANCIES on that SPecial TEams kickoff in the 3rd quarter?
Was shaun phillips making Golf plans when he was chasing down pryor only to be stff armed by Pryor?
Were the making Golf plans being fooled by Pryor in the RZ leaving a man wide open to come and sack pryor on that DMOORE TD??
Golf plans of that fake Special Teams punt?
January 12th, 2013 at 10:08 pm
Priest loved jamarcus pick
Hated DMac pick.
Loved DHB pick.
Most dont take his football talk seriously in here.
January 12th, 2013 at 10:09 pm
Priest–u lie with every post. Nobody said a qb who runs well can’t pass. We said PRYOR can’t pass. Newton, griffin, Wilson, and kaepernick are good passers. Pryor is not. Who are these mythical posters u keep referring to that don’t “understand” these qb’s or offenses? We all do.
January 12th, 2013 at 10:09 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 10:03 pm
realtruraider Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 10:02 pm
alex7 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:57 pm
All the smart kids in here (and the nfl GMs) know this:
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LMFAO! no you didn’t lol. I knew you were like 12 or somethin
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Are you that same guy who was saying i’m 14 from different ID? Hmmm..
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WTF you talkin about? I have never posted under anyother name and I try to stay out of all the BS but don’t care for the 9er lovin Alex/MR/Albert/Suli/Klas
January 12th, 2013 at 10:09 pm
Dr_robert Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 10:06 pm
Worst knock on Pryor? Priest and missdick’s support. Huge red flags, as they are well documented morons.
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I think that’s why most of You People hate on Pryor.
January 12th, 2013 at 10:10 pm
alex7 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 10:07 pm
Mcfadden20
Might want to look up “figure of speech”
Sad raider fans, thinking Pryor is more kaepernick than Joe Webb, tebow, and pat white.
Desperation is sad.
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which is why i rather stay away from these guys, stupid as f8ck , obviously making a fair evaluation of a qb and telling everybody Pryor passing needs a lot of work = racist . SMFH
January 12th, 2013 at 10:11 pm
Yes raider. Losing your cool and fighting shows your mind isn’t on winning the game. Coaches knew they were fired.
Think about how sad comparing meaningless week 17 performance (12 for 28) to Kaepernick’s record-breaking playoff performance.
Like tebow fans. Delusion.
January 12th, 2013 at 10:12 pm
Takeo SPikes looks like he doesnt care in the last game! SIKE
http://binaryapi.ap.org/f72fc07c94b74a7eaf84ed518e4cc085/940x.jpg
January 12th, 2013 at 10:12 pm
Can’t decide if the best name for the new Kell is “Kell 2.0″ or “Kellivan”. Shall we vote?
January 12th, 2013 at 10:13 pm
Priest,2 things.#1 I never said Pryor would never be able to do it(lead a team only passing);#2No one has said a running QB can’t pass.Read what has been said on here regarding Kap and RG3.All anyone is saying is they haven’t seen the proof Pryor can do those things-YET.As a Raider you can’t say he has proven he can.
January 12th, 2013 at 10:13 pm
Yes raider. Losing your cool and fighting shows your mind isn’t on winning the game. Coaches knew they were fired.
Think about how sad comparing meaningless week 17 performance (12 for 28) to Kaepernick’s record-breaking playoff performance.
Like tebow fans. Delusion.
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I think u are the one confused cuz u like to debate for no reason even though u failed to bring up other points not just a fight. Meaningless week 17 to u
Other players were playing for their jobs both on chargers and Riaders. That “meaningless” week 17 week to u is not to the Players cuz its goes on game film and out to every coach / GM looking at these players after they are cut or released
January 12th, 2013 at 10:14 pm
Everybody would love to see Pryor succeed and ultimately take us to the super bowl, but the guy is far from becoming that qb, his passing game doesn’t get a lot of respect from opposing D’s, which is the difference between Kap and Pryor, which is why Kap is successful with that zone read and other stupid stuff
January 12th, 2013 at 10:14 pm
Real true
If more than one fan in here appreciates good coaching talent and qb play in SF, they all must be one poster cross-posting?
Ignorant fanatic thinking that only your team can be appreciated.
January 12th, 2013 at 10:14 pm
dr_robert Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 10:03 pm
Kell–aww. U really don’t have a sense of humor do u? Maybe u should go see the great and powerful oz (1978 all-black version with Diana Ross and Michael Jackson?)
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Don’t u mean “The Wiz”?
January 12th, 2013 at 10:15 pm
This chargers scoing a TD in week 17 looks like he made golf plans
http://binaryapi.ap.org/3cf12cca079e4f9981f80679024173a5/460x.jpg
January 12th, 2013 at 10:15 pm
Just cracked a brewskie to the fact that we know Reggie is working to fill the open positions.
Cheers to all loyal Raider fans (takes a large drink)
January 12th, 2013 at 10:16 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 10:08 pm
Oh really they were making golf plans.
Did so was Eric Weddle Making golf plans when he knocked the crap out of Streater?
Was Takeo Spikes making golf plans when he got in a fight with Goodson then ROID RAGED the Fug out on the refs wanting to be in the game?
Was Melvin Ingram making Golf plans when he was chasing Pryor down like a mad man
Was Melvin making golf plans when he knocked the FUG out of COYE FRANCIES on that SPecial TEams kickoff in the 3rd quarter?
Was shaun phillips making Golf plans when he was chasing down pryor only to be stff armed by Pryor?
Were the making Golf plans being fooled by Pryor in the RZ leaving a man wide open to come and sack pryor on that DMOORE TD??
Golf plans of that fake Special Teams punt?
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Naw they were playin hard for Norv the last few weeks, there D really got after the Jets and they were obviously playin hard and tempers were flarin. The haters are goin to hate, they make schit up in there mind to fit there agenda, I don’t even read half of those post cause its always the same bs
January 12th, 2013 at 10:16 pm
His game was by no means perfect but he played well and it was exciting. He showed he can hang with the big boys even if he definitely still needs refining. He also showed without a doubt that he should have had packages for him made throughout the season. He is hungry, attentive, athletic and had great leadership and poise in moments of strong frustration. For the first time ever, I actually believe that Terrelle Pryor can be an NFL Quarterback and there is a chance that he could be the future starter of the Oakland Raiders.”
Pryor could use one more year of sitting and learning behind Palmer but once he is ready he will play well. His play in San Diego showed a player that has to continue to refine his mechanics but is learning and has natural skill that you can’t teach. He might get a chance to win the starting job next year in training camp if he has a great off-season, but I doubt he will win the job. One more year of waiting will do him good and then he will be ready to be a starting quarterback in the NFL.”
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2012/12/31/3822412/monday-morning-reaction-oakland-raiders-at-san-diego-chargers
January 12th, 2013 at 10:16 pm
Would this zone read option sh1t still be hot thing in nfl 2 years from now on? or would D’s figure this out like they figured out that stupid wild cat sh1t, which nobody runs anymore? anyone?
January 12th, 2013 at 10:17 pm
Kell 1.0–nobody, I repeat nobody, is “hating” on Pryor. That is a really passé phrase by the way. Way overused and misused. Very nineties.
Is it automatically racist to think Pryor sucks as a passer?
And priest and missdick’s support definitely cloud the issue, cuz most intelligent fans would seriously rethink ANY position if they found out they agreed. That’s just good sense. Nobody wants to throw their lot in with the crazies.
January 12th, 2013 at 10:17 pm
All day
Its human nature. You can’t give 100% all the time. Basic biology/psychology.
Week 17 when coaches are already fired and players are out of playoffs is WHEN THE ROB JOHNSONS of the world translate a decent performance into a huge GM mistake.
Dont compare that to a record breaking playoff performance.
January 12th, 2013 at 10:18 pm
961-you have the nerve to say that.Of course you are probably KK the 2nd.
January 12th, 2013 at 10:18 pm
The Oracle Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 10:15 pm
Just cracked a brewskie to the fact that we know Reggie is working to fill the open positions.
Cheers to all loyal Raider fans (takes a large drink)
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crown n coke for me , cheers..
January 12th, 2013 at 10:18 pm
Naw they were playin hard for Norv the last few weeks, there D really got after the Jets and they were obviously playin hard and tempers were flarin. The haters are goin to hate, they make schit up in there mind to fit there agenda, I don’t even read half of those post cause its always the same bs
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Exactly man. Week 16 was “meaningless” game with the jets vs chargers both teams out of it.
Yet chargers D was bringing it and sacked McElroy 11 x. Pryor was interviewed day b4 game and he was aware they would be looking to cream him.
Not 1 sack on Pryor.. He was elusive.. Stiff arming their big guys. I have watch Shaun Phillips crush Palmer the last two years.. didnt even come close to Pryor.. other then him getting stiff arm.
January 12th, 2013 at 10:19 pm
lefty12 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 10:13 pm
Priest,2 things.#1 I never said Pryor would never be able to do it(lead a team only passing);#2No one has said a running QB can’t pass.Read what has been said on here regarding Kap and RG3.All anyone is saying is they haven’t seen the proof Pryor can do those things-YET.As a Raider you can’t say he has proven he can.
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Lefty12, I said it, how many times do I need too say it. The kid has only played ONE GAME. I said I have seen him play better than he did in that game. I’m saying I feel he can play from the pocket as well as anyone else based on what I have seen him do…….as a prospect. You don’t agree, and that is OK!
People can say whatever they want about Pryor because the proof will be on Sundays. Do you really think I care what people in here have to say about anything?
I know for myself what the kid can do if he keeps working that much I’m sure of………..period
January 12th, 2013 at 10:19 pm
I think Kappys performance tonight is going to get Pryor careful consideration.
January 12th, 2013 at 10:20 pm
Djjohnny–yes. The wiz. I’m thinking Kell 1.0, missdick, and priest need to go see the black wiz to get brains, senses of humor, and honorary degrees in “footballology”.
January 12th, 2013 at 10:20 pm
All day
Its human nature. You can’t give 100% all the time. Basic biology/psychology.
Week 17 when coaches are already fired and players are out of playoffs is WHEN THE ROB JOHNSONS of the world translate a decent performance into a huge GM mistake.
Dont compare that to a record breaking playoff performance.
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No thats ur basic “Biology” which is why ur not in the pro’s. Real Pro’s go all out no matter what.
Mcfadden really looked like he was done right? I mean even after throwing guys off him in that charger game.. fighting his way for 3 yards.
Then coming to the sideline and getting chewed out by Dennis allen cuz he didnt bounce out for a 1st down.
January 12th, 2013 at 10:20 pm
I Like pryor, like his attitude and work ethic, hopefully he can work on his passing and can hit guys in stride and make good decisions
January 12th, 2013 at 10:22 pm
Matt Flynn threw for 6 TDS in week 17, nobody called seattle to ask for FLynn, hey is that guy who threw 6 TDS in week 17 available
January 12th, 2013 at 10:22 pm
I dont care at this point if Pryor is qb. I just want him in the Locker Room and on the Dayum Field somehow.. Someway.
A 6ft 5 240 pound football player who runs a 4.3 shoudl be an asset to a team ALWAYS. A good OC would find ways
January 12th, 2013 at 10:22 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 10:20 pm
I Like pryor, like his attitude and work ethic, hopefully he can work on his passing and can hit guys in stride and make good decisions
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Lol.
January 12th, 2013 at 10:23 pm
Matt Flynn threw for 6 TDS in week 17, nobody called seattle to ask for FLynn, hey is that guy who threw 6 TDS in week 17 available
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We dont have flnn . we have pryor. We also dont have arron rodgers. cuz if we did i think all this would be a mute point
January 12th, 2013 at 10:23 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 10:16 pm
Would this zone read option sh1t still be hot thing in nfl 2 years from now on? or would D’s figure this out like they figured out that stupid wild cat sh1t, which nobody runs anymore? anyone?
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As long as the QB can run and pass like Kap, Cam, RG3 and RW, the read option will never be stopped.
January 12th, 2013 at 10:23 pm
Cheers Oracle!
Smartest GM we’ve had here since Bruce Allen.
January 12th, 2013 at 10:24 pm
As long as the QB can run and pass like Kap, Cam, RG3 and RW, the read option will never be stopped.
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Yep. D’s dont know whats coming
January 12th, 2013 at 10:24 pm
Lefty12 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 10:00 pm
Sam,Madden would be hated on this blog if he was the Raider coach today.We eked out wins,played conservatively,and lost more league championship games than we won.
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Talent base is much more diluted now. Bad teams have stayed bad for longer (Detroit, Arizona, Cleveland, Jacksonville, Us, KC) – QB play in this era MUCH BETTER, but seems like more injuries occur now than in the past.
to correct you, Madden won DIVISION titles..and we commanded respect, fear, etc. There’ll never be another era like that – there was never a game we were out of..during Flores era as well.
January 12th, 2013 at 10:24 pm
Moot point. Not mute. All points are mute and incapable of talking.
January 12th, 2013 at 10:24 pm
Mcf20–I think the pistol offense is here to stay. I’ve always liked what it can do. But the read option/wildcat thing isn’t really the thing. Too much running/risk for a qb and actually not too hard to stop. Why they haven’t decided to use a “spy” against these guys is beyond me. I would start spying with a different guy every play and use lots of delayed blitzes with the spy. Just fly at the qb on every play. Don’t let him “read”. Force his hand quickly.
January 12th, 2013 at 10:26 pm
Moot point. Not mute. All points are mute and incapable of talking.
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I use mute.. in term of sound. In terms of hearing the talk.
MUTE
January 12th, 2013 at 10:27 pm
Good night gents. The accurate qb of our future is not on our roster yet.
January 12th, 2013 at 10:28 pm
Easier said the done.
Read Option/ all comes off the Pistol formation.
They will never figure it out. Cowboys have used spy.. they have also used Linebacker coming down hill taking out the running back.. and DE crashing the qb.
it works for about a play or 2. by 3rd quarter D has hands on hips
January 12th, 2013 at 10:28 pm
Dr_robert Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 10:17 pm
Kell 1.0–nobody, I repeat nobody, is “hating” on Pryor. That is a really passé phrase by the way. Way overused and misused. Very nineties.
Is it automatically racist to think Pryor sucks as a passer?
And priest and missdick’s support definitely cloud the issue, cuz most intelligent fans would seriously rethink ANY position if they found out they agreed. That’s just good sense. Nobody wants to throw their lot in with the crazies.
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I’ll throw my lot in with Mistic and Priest any day of the week.
January 12th, 2013 at 10:28 pm
Good night gents. The accurate qb of our future is not on our roster yet.
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He should of been if it were not for the Palmer trade
January 12th, 2013 at 10:29 pm
To be fair, a spy that just flew at the qb no matter what would open
big holes for rb.
Leave holes in pass zones too.
January 12th, 2013 at 10:30 pm
Packers last week said playing against WEBB in terms of the running qb would help them stop Kap lol
Like i said u can game plan for it, practice for it.. but REal GAME .. shyyt does not fly.
January 12th, 2013 at 10:30 pm
People who think Russell Wilson is a better passer than TP6 will be shocked over the next year or so. Kappy just has a stronger arm he is NOT a better passer. The only QB I will concede is a better passer of these young QB’s is RG3 the rest Pryor is right in amongst them. Who’s 2-5 is anybodies guess but as far as him not being able to throw with Wilson and and Kapp in terms of accuracy is just people talking.
Time will tell all…..
January 12th, 2013 at 10:31 pm
I can go out and dedicate myself.Study like no one before.Get up at dawn and work until dark.But if i’m not able to perform all that doesn’t mean squat.If i don’t have the ability no matter how hard I work,no matter how much i want it,it won’t happen.Until Pryor shows he has ‘it’ I will doubt him.I’ve seen countless players excel in college but fail in the NFL.I saw Flacco throw passes today that as of yet Pryor hasn’t shown the ability to make.Will he some day?I hope so ,he does wear the Silver and Black.
January 12th, 2013 at 10:31 pm
Should have. Not should of. Yeah, no palmer trade robs us of most exciting season in 10 years, but MAYBE gets us to RGIII. No way hue throws away 4-2 first place start season.
January 12th, 2013 at 10:31 pm
Greatest show on turf was such a long time ago. Martz’s offenses **** on pass protection and don’t allow much for adjustment.
January 12th, 2013 at 10:31 pm
D’s are at such an disadvantage, can’t hit hard, can’t press the guy after 5 yards, etc ,etc, which is why some of this BS is working , but over the years if you learned one thing , it’s Ds win championships, we just have to look at 02 superbowl against Bucs, 00 against Ravens, Pats against Giants, Ds will always find a way to beat any kinda style, we might have the smartest guy (JT) in the nfl to stop that kinda sh1t , can we give him some players to work with? it would be exciting, i would love Pryor thing to work but he’s got to work on his throwing more, he’s faster than Kap but is not in the same category when you compare his arm to any guy Wilson, RGIII, Kap
January 12th, 2013 at 10:31 pm
After a quiet couple of weeks, there is some movement on the Oakland Raiders coaching front.
The Contra Costa Times is reporting that the Raiders have interviewed former St. Louis head coach Mike Martz for their open offensive-coordinator position. The paper also reported that Eagles assistant Juan Castillo interviewed for the open offensive-line job.
The Raiders fired four coaches, including offensive coordinator Greg Knapp, a day after their 4-12 season ended.
Martz believes in a wide-open offense that could fit the Raiders’ fast receivers. Yet, he has not coached in the NFL since he was the Bears’ offensive coordinator in 2011. There will likely be more candidates.
January 12th, 2013 at 10:31 pm
I will say this.
Pryor is only 22 yrs old. Give the kid a chance at REAL REPS.. A real coach like Harbaugh or OC.. and let him work.
Let him develop
January 12th, 2013 at 10:32 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 10:18 pm
Naw they were playin hard for Norv the last few weeks, there D really got after the Jets and they were obviously playin hard and tempers were flarin. The haters are goin to hate, they make schit up in there mind to fit there agenda, I don’t even read half of those post cause its always the same bs
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Exactly man. Week 16 was “meaningless” game with the jets vs chargers both teams out of it.
Yet chargers D was bringing it and sacked McElroy 11 x. Pryor was interviewed day b4 game and he was aware they would be looking to cream him.
Not 1 sack on Pryor.. He was elusive.. Stiff arming their big guys. I have watch Shaun Phillips crush Palmer the last two years.. didnt even come close to Pryor.. other then him getting stiff arm.
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Could be interesting, and a lot more exciting…..but the reality is
we dont know who the OC is, and how they set the offensive game plan for the QB…how resourceful that coordinator can be in developing a rapport with Pryor
January 12th, 2013 at 10:33 pm
Should have. Not should of. Yeah, no palmer trade robs us of most exciting season in 10 years, but MAYBE gets us to RGIII. No way hue throws away 4-2 first place start season.
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ummm forget Rg3. Im talking Russell Wilson. Maybe u missed those articles last year during the senior bowl
Reggie Mckenzie and Raiders scouts spending the most time with Russell wilson.
No I said “should have been” try again
January 12th, 2013 at 10:34 pm
The other option is to run a defense with no gap responsibilities. Lbs “read and react”. Find ball. Wait to see where it’s going. Go to ball. It’s kinda like catching a greased pig. U don’t go off flying. I always called it “corral” technique. Ur kinda squeezing the guy, letting other guys get there too. It’s a swarm, help defense. It’s the opposite theory. Be patient. Take proper angles. Eye on the ball.
January 12th, 2013 at 10:35 pm
Kap made the Patriots look average.
Rg3 made cowgirls look like a pop warner team
Russell Wilson.. well enuff said . He will be Rookie of the year
January 12th, 2013 at 10:36 pm
McFadden
Zone read isn’t a gimmick.
You read the DE. If he does one thing, you do this. He does that, you do this instead.
It will be a staple of football as long as qbs can run, runing game is respected, and D players are human and prone to be over aggressive.
Gnight
January 12th, 2013 at 10:38 pm
U can’t “develop” accuracy. U can only develop recognition, timing, foot work, etc. accuracy is innate. It’s like a surgeons hands. U have it or u don’t. Surgeons with shaky hands don’t develop. They do something else.
Pryor is so far behind Wilson, kaepernick, ey al, it’s not the same universe. Pryor looks exactly like what he is. A wr throwing an option pass.
January 12th, 2013 at 10:38 pm
Nighty night
January 12th, 2013 at 10:39 pm
Read option craze means Pryor has major trade value.
January 12th, 2013 at 10:39 pm
dr_robert Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 10:38 pm
U can’t “develop” accuracy. U can only develop recognition, timing, foot work, etc. accuracy is innate. It’s like a surgeons hands. U have it or u don’t. Surgeons with shaky hands don’t develop. They do something else.
Pryor is so far behind Wilson, kaepernick, ey al, it’s not the same universe. Pryor looks exactly like what he is. A wr throwing an option pass.
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Don’t state the obvious, you will be called a racist for doing that
January 12th, 2013 at 10:39 pm
U guys keep forgetting. We don’t have any of those guys. We have Pryor. And he sucks as a passer.
January 12th, 2013 at 10:41 pm
Mcf20–too late! Lol.
Pryor had zero trade value. No nfl gm in his right mind would want him as a qb.
January 12th, 2013 at 10:41 pm
Pryor look accurate at times.. it goes back to footwork which u can develop.
Im not even comparing other then the running threat.
Kaperick was the guy I wanted after watching him at Nevada. Thought he was as kept secret playing at the WAC school. Only for harbaugh to get him. Its sucks
and mcafadden20 nobody is calling him a racist quite being dramatic and go have another beer
January 12th, 2013 at 10:42 pm
You can beat teams in many ways, this wave of future is just that , something Miami tried with wild cat n stuff, didn’t work for long time, maybe this thing will be there to stay, but it’s still wait and see at the moment, well wouldn’t hurt if we can do that and win a superbowl with Pryor, but i highly doubt it would work for long time
January 12th, 2013 at 10:43 pm
ok i will have another shot of crown n coke
January 12th, 2013 at 10:43 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
I’ll throw my lot in with Mistic and Priest any day of the week.
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An oversight.
January 12th, 2013 at 10:43 pm
Its not wild cat. Wild cat is just a running back lined up at qb.
Pistol offense/ Read Option is about 10x more effective
January 12th, 2013 at 10:44 pm
lefty12 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 10:31 pm
I can go out and dedicate myself.Study like no one before.Get up at dawn and work until dark.But if i’m not able to perform all that doesn’t mean squat.If i don’t have the ability no matter how hard I work,no matter how much i want it,it won’t happen.Until Pryor shows he has ‘it’ I will doubt him.I’ve seen countless players excel in college but fail in the NFL.I saw Flacco throw passes today that as of yet Pryor hasn’t shown the ability to make.Will he some day?I hope so ,he does wear the Silver and Black.
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Flacco has one of teh strongest arms in the NFL but he doesn’t have a ring. Because he is NOT a leader what Pryor has in spades Flacco can’t dream of.
I have said many times Pryor throws a very catchable ball deep intermediate and short. He throws with touch and he’s accurate. Flacco will maybe somke day win a SB he has been on SB calibre teams all his career.
He is anot the leader or competitor Pryor is and taht is what escapes you Lefty12. You keep talking about what he cannot do and all this kid has EVER done is PRODUCE WINS!. That is ALL I care about he doesn’t have to do it like someon e else did it he just has to do it..period
January 12th, 2013 at 10:44 pm
at the end of the day it comes down to which team has better D, Whiners D is much better than GB, so whiners won, I would love to see Seahawks #1 D against whiners Kap that would be exciting
January 12th, 2013 at 10:44 pm
and typing from a phone on touch screen sucks.. specially on this site
January 12th, 2013 at 10:45 pm
All day–he doesn’t throw with his feet though. If he did, THAT would be a wave of the future.
January 12th, 2013 at 10:45 pm
yep it will be exciting .. but NFC game will be alot different then the one Seattle just had against the whiners.
ask Denver about that today
January 12th, 2013 at 10:47 pm
All day–he doesn’t throw with his feet though. If he did, THAT would be a wave of the future.
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exactly which is why I’d be willing to give him 1 -2 more years with a legit coach.. a Legit OC and lets see what they could get out of him.
Who knows who Pryor works with this offeseaon.. I know he said something about spending time with Gannon again
January 12th, 2013 at 10:47 pm
Jamarcus Russell had more talent than any QB I have EVER seen in any era. yet he wasn’t competitive and was a leader. Pryor is almost the antithesis of Russell. He competes he leads and wins. What else is there?
January 12th, 2013 at 10:47 pm
I believe the real issue is the type of offense you want.Do you want instant gratification that will last a couple of years at the most or do you want extended success?As proven with RG3 you can have instant success but if he goes down you are in a world of hurt.If Brady goes down,you can replace him and still be successful, proven with Matt Cassel.I’d prefer to set the organization so we are good for a long time,not just as long as our athletic QB can stay healthy.When I get my franchise QB in place I’d like to see him there for 10-15 years,not a couple of good ones,he gets hurt, then I’m back behind the 8-ball.
January 12th, 2013 at 10:49 pm
Should the Raiders accept a 1st round draft pick for Pryor if offered?
January 12th, 2013 at 10:49 pm
Only Reggie / DA/ SCouts know what kind of offense they want.
ONly Reggie knows what kind of QB he is looking for. He hasnt drafted one.
Gonna be interesting to find out. I do know Ryan Nassib will be on the Raiders team at senior bowl
January 12th, 2013 at 10:49 pm
For the youngsters, the option was in play over 10 years ago with one of the most prolific option QB’s ever, Kordell Stewart out of Colorado. He was a a QB with the Steelers. He had a successful first season then fell off and was no longer QB after 2-3 years.
The option is nothing new in the NFL and there was a reason Stewart and the option fell out.My opinion is this is just another cycle of it. It is nothing new in the NFL. If I am not mistaken he was referred to as “Slash” until he crashed.
January 12th, 2013 at 10:50 pm
Russell wanted everyone to wait while he got himself ready. Pryor wants eevryone to jump[ on his back so he can carry them to victory. He has loads of talent to go with his leadership skills both passing and running he is a better combo QB than anyone except RG3 IMHO.
That much I’m confident of.
January 12th, 2013 at 10:51 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 10:49 pm
Should the Raiders accept a 1st round draft pick for Pryor if offered?
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If they get offered a 1st for Pryor that’s evidence to keep him not trade him
January 12th, 2013 at 10:51 pm
Only Kap, and Russel wilson are way better qbs then Kordell
Yet they run as fast if not faster then kordell
January 12th, 2013 at 10:51 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 10:45 pm
yep it will be exciting .. but NFC game will be alot different then the one Seattle just had against the whiners.
ask Denver about that today
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SF will take em out, but both have great Ds it will be fun to watch, i like Kap but just don’t want whiners to advance hope Hawks win tomorrow and beat the whiners next week , i don’t see Atlanta stopping Kap
January 12th, 2013 at 10:52 pm
If Whiners go to the super bowl.. they are winning the whole dayum thing.
u dont give Harbaugh 2 weeks to prepare. and that D will be on point. It will be crazy
January 12th, 2013 at 10:53 pm
another day of great games tommorow.
ya’ll be safe 2nite! have fun
January 12th, 2013 at 10:56 pm
lefty12 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 10:47 pm
I believe the real issue is the type of offense you want.Do you want instant gratification that will last a couple of years at the most or do you want extended success?As proven with RG3 you can have instant success but if he goes down you are in a world of hurt.If Brady goes down,you can replace him and still be successful, proven with Matt Cassel.I’d prefer to set the organization so we are good for a long time,not just as long as our athletic QB can stay healthy.When I get my franchise QB in place I’d like to see him there for 10-15 years,not a couple of good ones,he gets hurt, then I’m back behind the 8-ball.
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Lefty12 There are as many athletic QB’s as there are Stationary ones. YOU are very short sighted beyond belief man. You think this is some flash in the pan. You are sorely mistaken there are tons of athletic QB’s to biuld around til the end of TIME!
It is no more short sighted to biuld arounda athletic QB than it is to biuld arouns a statue. This thing is changing whether you accept it or not the statue QB is no longer the aought after QB it’s just the opposite as I told you 3 years ago.
Palmer ws the prototypical QB 20 years ago but Pryor is the prototype of today. When you biuld a team it will be with that model not the statue.
January 12th, 2013 at 10:57 pm
Carson Palmer 2012 Salary: $4,716,667 ($825,000 base) 4-11 in 15 Starts (.267 pct)
Projected 2013 Salary:$16,891,667 ($13,000,000 base)
Colin Kaepernick 2012 Salary: $1,164,610 ($607,922 base)
2-3 and 1-0 post season in 6 Starts (.500)
Projected 2013 Salary:$1,297,532 ($740,844 base)
Can help but think: Drafting Kaepernick would’ve meant saving draft picks 2012 round 1 and 3(used to draft TP) + 2013 round 2.
9er football operations efficiency makes me wanna throw up.
January 12th, 2013 at 10:57 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 10:43 pm
ok i will have another shot of crown n coke
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I am pacing you bro! Salud!
January 12th, 2013 at 10:57 pm
Priest,there are times when I can’t believe what you say.How in the he!! can you knock someone like Flacco?I realize he doesn’t fit your ideal but come on,the guy is damn good.You accuse others of some sort of bias/agenda then you dismiss the ability of the Flaccos and Elis.Having a preference is one thing,but……..
January 12th, 2013 at 10:58 pm
Just want everyone to know I recently pinched a loaf that is hall of fame worthy. Dude looked like a sea otter cept it smelled a bit better. HOLLA.
January 12th, 2013 at 10:59 pm
Arizona, Dallas, Tampa Bay, Kansas City, Jacksonville, Cleveland, Buffalo, New York (A) are all looking to improve immensely at quarterback.
Pryor has trade value.
January 12th, 2013 at 10:59 pm
The Oracle Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 10:57 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 10:43 pm
ok i will have another shot of crown n coke
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I am pacing you bro! Salud!
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cheers
January 12th, 2013 at 11:00 pm
“Matt Ryan sucks! I can’t think of a QB in history given more weapons than that guy and he still gets slapped around. Criticizing him for not WINNING in the playoffs is being much to kind. He’s not even giving his team a CHANCE in the playoffs. His physical deficiencies show up against the good teams. Totally outclassed by Warner, Rodgers and Manning. He better get ready for more of the same tomorrow.”
Don’t forget how many times Kenny Stabler came up short of the Super Bowl as did Lamonica before him. As the late, great Bill King finally said when he got sick of hearing how great the Raiders were, “Has it ever occurred to you numbskulls that there was, in those instances, at least ONE team even better that year than they were?” He was sick of hearing how the Lenny Dawson Chiefs weren’t as good as the Raiders when they clearly were often better in the game that counted.
January 12th, 2013 at 11:01 pm
lefty12, What has escaped you is two HC’s with stationary QB’s ashcanned them both for mobile QB’s that cna run as well as pass. Both those HC’s are deep in the playoffs. Do you rerally think GM’s and HC’s all over the league didn’t notice?
What Harbaugh did is getting EVERYONES attention and how kappy performed GOT EVERYONES attention. This isn’t going away it’s just getting started no one will have all their QB’s be of the stationary pocket ONLY passers EVER again it limits what you can do…period
January 12th, 2013 at 11:02 pm
priest: He is anot the leader or competitor Pryor is and taht is what escapes you Lefty12. You keep talking about what he cannot do and all this kid has EVER done is PRODUCE WINS!. That is ALL I care about he doesn’t have to do it like someon e else did it he just has to do it..period
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You will never be a coach, or a advisor, at any level, for any sport/event/bingo game. You make all decisions with your heart, not your head. You would leave in the most inept player, and justify it by saying “he wants it really bad, so he should get a chance” or “I think he will be a leader someday, so I’m promoting him”
Pryor is NOT A LEADER, AT ALL.
He’S NOT WINNING. This isn’t college. A TON of qb’s win in college (see Jamarcus Bust) and totally flop in the NFL.
Pryor not only didn’t win, but he’s not a starter, and not a backup. Only you would lecture how a 3rd string qb is A LEADER AND A WINNER.
BTW, you’ve said that about a lot of players who not only weren’t leaders, or winners, but are out of the league.
January 12th, 2013 at 11:02 pm
Any body pinch a loaf bigger than a football? Link?
January 12th, 2013 at 11:04 pm
SF whiners O isn’t better than Packers , it was their D was much better than Packers, which made all the difference
January 12th, 2013 at 11:04 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 10:49 pm
Should the Raiders accept a 1st round draft pick for Pryor if offered?
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YES! Of course. But, it will never happen.
January 12th, 2013 at 11:05 pm
lefty12 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 10:57 pm
Priest,there are times when I can’t believe what you say.How in the he!! can you knock someone like Flacco?I realize he doesn’t fit your ideal but come on,the guy is damn good.You accuse others of some sort of bias/agenda then you dismiss the ability of the Flaccos and Elis.Having a preference is one thing,but……..
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Because he has been on one the best teams in the league his entire career and he gets smoked every year. The same is true with Matt Ryan. It is time for Flacco to put up or shut up…..he has to get it done…………period
January 12th, 2013 at 11:06 pm
Russell Wilson isn’t setting the world on fire, Their D is #1 in the league, M Lynch is a beast , special teams are awesome, but some guys would make it sound like these guys are playing the best games anybody ever seen lol
January 12th, 2013 at 11:06 pm
Kaepernick is really incredible. Guy runs like a deer, throws lasers and, physically, is the QB version of Megatron. Basically, if you were building a highly advanced robotic version of an NFL QB, it should come out looking something like Kaepernick.
TP is about the same height and speed, but I kind of doubt he’ll ever throw that well. I’m sincerely pulling for TP to prove he can improve as a passer and be our QB of the future, but everyone who watched Kappy tonight and sees TP needs to put the breaks on.
Pop in a tape of Vince Young. That’s about where TP is right now. Though by all indications he’s busting his arse to get better.
January 12th, 2013 at 11:08 pm
Lefty12, Look what RG3, Wilson, Kappy, Luck have all done in less trhan 2 years time. If Flacco loses next week his window will start to close because he has had 5 YEARS Kappy did it in 8 weeks the others are ROOKIES. Flacco and MATT Ryan need to put up or shut up…period
January 12th, 2013 at 11:08 pm
Love the guys saying Pryor needs to “work hard ” at getting accurate. What do u think he been doing all his life? Kid can’t throw. Period.
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This is what get me too. I mean, we saw Tebow “working hard to get accurate.” We saw him working in the off-season to develop foot work that would presumably make him accurate, while all the while those that knew said, “If he’s not accurate now, he isn’t going to get accurage. That’s what kids who are qbs have been working on all their careers in high school and college.”
Same with Pryor. I want him to be good, am willing to keep him on the roster one more year (unless someone would give us a good pick for him, which they won’t), but I really don’t count on his suddenly developing the skills of an NFL passer. Then too, there’s the equally difficult job of “learning” to read a defense without the extensive background in doing that one should have by now.
January 12th, 2013 at 11:08 pm
Priest,according to people like Herm Edwards you are dead wrong.I heard him interviewed.He loved the ability of guys like RG3 but he is the one who said when you get a franchise QB you want him for 10-15 years due to the money you will pay him.Runnng QBs put their TEAMS at risk.it isn’t only the legs that take a beating,its the rest of the body.He mentioned as a player when a QB gets out of the pocket the mindset of a defensive player is punish the man,especially if it is the QB.They are great in college,but won’t last in the NFL.Too many big,strong,fast players whose goal is to knock you out.He mentioned how RBs have the shortest life span in pro football and you want to make QBs the same.The people that pay won’t allow it.There will always be pocket passers whether you like it or not.
January 12th, 2013 at 11:09 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 11:05 pm
lefty12 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 10:57 pm
Priest,there are times when I can’t believe what you say.How in the he!! can you knock someone like Flacco?I realize he doesn’t fit your ideal but come on,the guy is damn good.You accuse others of some sort of bias/agenda then you dismiss the ability of the Flaccos and Elis.Having a preference is one thing,but……..
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Because he has been on one the best teams in the league his entire career and he gets smoked every year. The same is true with Matt Ryan. It is time for Flacco to put up or shut up…..he has to get it done…………period
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Don’t forget guys he’s going against, last year they would have beaten Pats if not for missed chip shot fg by their FG, the guys he went against weren’t bad either
January 12th, 2013 at 11:10 pm
dr_robert Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 10:38 pm
U can’t “develop” accuracy. U can only develop recognition, timing, foot work, etc. accuracy is innate. It’s like a surgeons hands. U have it or u don’t. Surgeons with shaky hands don’t develop. They do something else.
Pryor is so far behind Wilson, kaepernick, ey al, it’s not the same universe. Pryor looks exactly like what he is. A wr throwing an option pass.
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One could argue that his passing could improve from an adjusted arm slot or wrist angle, but that is no sure thing with no timetable for delivery. Then there is inate touch which is exclusive and elusive and is developed from youth. Pryor has not displayed this skill.
“A WR throwing an option pass” is an excellent description of him.
January 12th, 2013 at 11:10 pm
Priest–u just said Pryor “competes, he leads, he wins”. Except he doesn’t win. .000 win percentage in the nfl. Worst of all time.
January 12th, 2013 at 11:10 pm
If cutting Palmer saves the Raiders over ten million dollars (in real money) for 2013; and more so years beyond, we must cut him.
Cut McClain, Kelly also.
Restructure, trade, or cut McFadden & Heyward-Bey as well.
Completely wipe the roster clean of out-of-whack contracts for the Raiders.
January 12th, 2013 at 11:10 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 11:06 pm
Russell Wilson isn’t setting the world on fire, Their D is #1 in the league, M Lynch is a beast , special teams are awesome, but some guys would make it sound like these guys are playing the best games anybody ever seen lol
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So what’s Flacco’s problem?
January 12th, 2013 at 11:12 pm
Flacco just beat top 5 qb of all time and would have beaten brady last year if not for the kicker missing a chip shot Priest is hating him while at the same time talking up Pryor who was like 12-28 wow SMH
January 12th, 2013 at 11:13 pm
I’ll take him over 50 QB’s who have come thru this league and done absolutely nothing with great arms and throwing motions.
Pryor competes…period
January 12th, 2013 at 11:13 pm
The mobile QBs are changing the game. I’ve long been a fan of having a mobile QB who can move the chains with his legs. On of the toughest things to defend.
But those writing off Palmer and traditional pocket passers should realize that the AFC title game will feature two pocket passers and there’s a decent chance Ryan and the Falcons win at home tomorrow despite everyone stamping Seattle’s ticket for the next round.
January 12th, 2013 at 11:13 pm
“DHB is as big and fast/er as Torrey Smith. The difference is our QB’s (here and gone) cant hit DHB in stride down the field. When they do (rarely) it is 6.”
Whoa, whoa, whoa there. Come on, you’ve never seen a receiver make adjustments to a ball thrown down the field, slow up, speed up, jump up and STILL catch it?
Especially bad at this has been DHB as he is not a natural at judging the ball’s flight and certainly not gifted with good hands.
January 12th, 2013 at 11:14 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 11:02 pm
priest: He is anot the leader or competitor Pryor is and taht is what escapes you Lefty12. You keep talking about what he cannot do and all this kid has EVER done is PRODUCE WINS!. That is ALL I care about he doesn’t have to do it like someon e else did it he just has to do it..period
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You will never be a coach, or a advisor, at any level, for any sport/event/bingo game. You make all decisions with your heart, not your head. You would leave in the most inept player, and justify it by saying “he wants it really bad, so he should get a chance” or “I think he will be a leader someday, so I’m promoting him”
Pryor is NOT A LEADER, AT ALL.
He’S NOT WINNING. This isn’t college. A TON of qb’s win in college (see Jamarcus Bust) and totally flop in the NFL.
Pryor not only didn’t win, but he’s not a starter, and not a backup. Only you would lecture how a 3rd string qb is A LEADER AND A WINNER.
BTW, you’ve said that about a lot of players who not only weren’t leaders, or winners, but are out of the league.
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Why are you afraid of posting that under your own name?
January 12th, 2013 at 11:14 pm
With Flacco it’s always “IF” and I agree they should’ve won but he has another chance now. Lets see what he does with it. If If If just DO IT!
January 12th, 2013 at 11:15 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 11:10 pm
Completely wipe the roster clean of out-of-whack contracts for the Raiders.
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This is step one of any good GM’s job. Cut operating cost.It is in effect. Hallelujah!
Once production warrants it, let the contract increase in value.
January 12th, 2013 at 11:15 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 11:10 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 11:06 pm
Russell Wilson isn’t setting the world on fire, Their D is #1 in the league, M Lynch is a beast , special teams are awesome, but some guys would make it sound like these guys are playing the best games anybody ever seen lol
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So what’s Flacco’s problem?
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Flacco beat a pretty good D today while his D was being r@p3d
January 12th, 2013 at 11:15 pm
Damn, I own you, don’t I?
January 12th, 2013 at 11:16 pm
Pryor is laying some serious pipe dream in here. And these guys are sucking on it with all they got. It’s fun to see young love. But many of us know Pryor is a tease and won’t go for it.
January 12th, 2013 at 11:18 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 10:47 pm
Jamarcus Russell had more talent than any QB I have EVER seen in any era. yet he wasn’t competitive and was a leader. Pryor is almost the antithesis of Russell. He competes he leads and wins. What else is there?
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This is why you are viewed as loopy.
No one, as in NO ONE, except you and debo, would state Russell had MORE talent than any qb, in any era?
Really? Better than Marino? Montana?
YOU REALLY WANT TO SIT THERE AND SAY JAMARCUS RUSSELL HAD MORE TALENT THAN Y.A. TITTLE? OR BRADY? MORE TALENT THAN PEYTON?
How can you type something like you did, and hit submit, knowing you come across looking stupid?
Russell had a cannon for an arm, and a peanut for a brain. He was not mobile, had horrible touch, was NOT a leader, and was a bust.
Yet here you are, saying hes the best YOU EVER SAW?
Proves it. You haven’t watched much football. That is for certain.
January 12th, 2013 at 11:18 pm
Not a huge Flacco fan, but didn’t he go to the AFC Title game as a rookie and again one or two times since then?
To be fair Kaepernick hasn’t done anything Flacco hasn’t in the playoffs yet. Though I do expect the 49ers to be in the Super Bowl and the Ravens to not be.
January 12th, 2013 at 11:18 pm
Pryor has a lot of people panties in bunches, M1st1c, TJPRIEST, KK, i wonder if he was white would they still talk him up like he belongs in HOF
January 12th, 2013 at 11:18 pm
Palmer has one of the prettiest passes imaginable he is the perfect QB, biuld vision understanding of defenses and everything you can possibly ask for yet what was our record?
Stop telling me about throwing motion and armstrength and tell me about competitiveness and leadership and the ability to move a team down field and score points…………because if it doesn’t amount to that……………..to hell with it!!
January 12th, 2013 at 11:19 pm
Pryor does compete. And there have been countless pocket qb’s who failed. But that doesn’t change anything. He sucks as a passer. It’s just that simple.
January 12th, 2013 at 11:21 pm
Pryor has never win a game in the nfl. Probably never will. At least Palmer won four games. Lol.
January 12th, 2013 at 11:21 pm
Even KoolKell, huge fan of anything black calling out TJ, kinda sad but whatever , keep building up Russell’s bust in Canton, OHIO
January 12th, 2013 at 11:22 pm
Dr_robert Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 11:19 pm
Pryor does compete. And there have been countless pocket qb’s who failed. But that doesn’t change anything. He sucks as a passer. It’s just that simple.
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January 12th, 2013 at 11:22 pm
Pastor Napoleon @napoleonkaufman
I think my man @TerrellePryor can do what I see this man Kaep doing. I can see this!! #RaiderNation @CorkOnTheNFL
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Pryor is probably part of his congregation and puts some dimes in the plate.
January 12th, 2013 at 11:23 pm
PriestJ,
I get what ur saying, but Pryor’s record = 0-1. Not sure how he’s proven he’s more of a winner than Palmer.
January 12th, 2013 at 11:23 pm
I’m pretty sure Allen and Reggie decided to start Pryor to out an end to the fans clamp ring for him. And it was going exactly that way. Everyone was seeing how bad he was. Then he got the two Tds at the end and all the knitwit a can’t shutup about it. I bet Reggie and Allen are shaking their heads.
January 12th, 2013 at 11:24 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 11:14 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 11:02 pm
priest: He is anot the leader or competitor Pryor is and taht is what escapes you Lefty12. You keep talking about what he cannot do and all this kid has EVER done is PRODUCE WINS!. That is ALL I care about he doesn’t have to do it like someon e else did it he just has to do it..period
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You will never be a coach, or a advisor, at any level, for any sport/event/bingo game. You make all decisions with your heart, not your head. You would leave in the most inept player, and justify it by saying “he wants it really bad, so he should get a chance” or “I think he will be a leader someday, so I’m promoting him”
Pryor is NOT A LEADER, AT ALL.
He’S NOT WINNING. This isn’t college. A TON of qb’s win in college (see Jamarcus Bust) and totally flop in the NFL.
Pryor not only didn’t win, but he’s not a starter, and not a backup. Only you would lecture how a 3rd string qb is A LEADER AND A WINNER.
BTW, you’ve said that about a lot of players who not only weren’t leaders, or winners, but are out of the league.
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Why are you afraid of posting that under your own name?
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I just did, you wannabee troll.
January 12th, 2013 at 11:24 pm
Fargas competed too and went all out , but that didn’t lead him to a successful RB, I’m sure DHB is putting out the best effort of any guy out there as well , but still no results
January 12th, 2013 at 11:25 pm
Hopefully DA etc recognize Pryor’s potential now.__________________________________
Why? How are Pryor’s skills comparable to CK’s?
January 12th, 2013 at 11:25 pm
TJPRIEST is just trolling you guys lol , just ignore him lmfao
January 12th, 2013 at 11:26 pm
I’m cool with Norv Turner for OC
January 12th, 2013 at 11:26 pm
Norv is off the market
January 12th, 2013 at 11:28 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 11:06 pm
Russell Wilson isn’t setting the world on fire, Their D is #1 in the league, M Lynch is a beast , special teams are awesome, but some guys would make it sound like these guys are playing the best games anybody ever seen lol
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Give him the same opportunities Palmer has had to do so and we’ll see. No one has said Pryor has PROVEN anything any moron knows he’s played ONE game.
I’m saying I aint listening to some idiot tell me what he CANNOT do. When he gets the opportunity we’ll all see what he CAN DO!
January 12th, 2013 at 11:28 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 10:44 pm
lefty12 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 10:31 pm
I can go out and dedicate myself.Study like no one before.Get up at dawn and work until dark.But if i’m not able to perform all that doesn’t mean squat.If i don’t have the ability no matter how hard I work,no matter how much i want it,it won’t happen.Until Pryor shows he has ‘it’ I will doubt him.I’ve seen countless players excel in college but fail in the NFL.I saw Flacco throw passes today that as of yet Pryor hasn’t shown the ability to make.Will he some day?I hope so ,he does wear the Silver and Black.
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Flacco has one of teh strongest arms in the NFL but he doesn’t have a ring. Because he is NOT a leader what Pryor has in spades Flacco can’t dream of.
I have said many times Pryor throws a very catchable ball deep intermediate and short. He throws with touch and he’s accurate. Flacco will maybe somke day win a SB he has been on SB calibre teams all his career.
He is anot the leader or competitor Pryor is and taht is what escapes you Lefty12. You keep talking about what he cannot do and all this kid has EVER done is PRODUCE WINS!. That is ALL I care about he doesn’t have to do it like someon e else did it he just has to do it..period
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Priest, I agree Flacco hasn’t really been a leader yet. But it’s kind of understandable when you consider Ray Lewis has been on the team. QBs aren’t just leaders because they play the position. It takes time and skins on the wall, which he has now. With Ray leaving, I’m sure he’ll assume more of a leadership position. And he has that elite arm strength. There will always be room for a pocket passer with an arm like his.
January 12th, 2013 at 11:29 pm
Martz’s offense would really compliment what the raiders have. A bunch of receivers and a rb that catches the ball well. Plus a good, accurate, strong armed qb. Palmer is the best qb he would have had since Warner.
January 12th, 2013 at 11:29 pm
Priest,I don’t understand why you have such a problem with QBs that aren’t black.You give them no credit.You stated Eli sucks.You say Flacco sucks.I’m waiting for Brady to lose so you can see he has sucked all these years-he only won because of the team around him.How about Payton-does he suck too?I understand your promoting black QBs because they weren’t given the opportunities in the past,but why the hate on QBs that have shown to be very good?
January 12th, 2013 at 11:30 pm
Pryor has a lot of people panties in bunches, M1st1c, TJPRIEST, KK, i wonder if he was white would they still talk him up like he belongs in HOF_______________________________
Well, he’s half white, half black, and when my daughter walked in today and listened to him on a taped interview, she said, “Oh, he’s Italian!”
He kind of looks it with that large, Mediterranean/Middle Eastern nose. If I saw him on the street, I might think him to be Lebanese.
January 12th, 2013 at 11:30 pm
Chris in NY Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 11:23 pm
PriestJ,
I get what ur saying, but Pryor’s record = 0-1. Not sure how he’s proven he’s more of a winner than Palmer.
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Give him the same opportunities Palmer has had to do so and we’ll see. No one has said Pryor has PROVEN anything any moron knows he’s played ONE game.
I’m saying I aint listening to some idiot tell me what he CANNOT do. When he gets the opportunity we’ll all see what he CAN DO!
January 12th, 2013 at 11:32 pm
Priest thinks all qb’s should be allowed to get ten starts before anyone can determine what they can do. He apparently doesn’t realize MOST nfl qb’s are judged well before they ever step in the field. And most never see the field at all.
January 12th, 2013 at 11:33 pm
If i’m a Denver fan I am so ticked off and frustrated right now.
First off, they could of sealed the game in regulation but they go conservative and run right at em and punt the ball away. They’ve still basically got the game won. They are at home with the crowd screaming, under a minute left and Baltimore at their own 30. All Den has to do is stop them from scoring a TD…and they allow a 70 yd. bomb on unforgivable coverage.
They get the ball back with 31 secs. and TWO TIMEOUTS with the all world Peyton Manning nedding only a fg to win; and they SIT ON IT.
Then, in OT they continue to play it fairly conservative but hold Balt. and have the ball back and Manning throws an int. at the rest is history.
If I were a Bronco fan, I would be so beside myself in anger right now; but i’m not, so all I can do is laugh.
Man that must suck.
January 12th, 2013 at 11:34 pm
Because he is a Raider, I would want Pryor to succeed.
But I do not forget that if we didn’t draft him, no one would have and he might be outta sight, outta mind.
January 12th, 2013 at 11:34 pm
I’m wondering if it might be a good idea to grab geno. Not many chances to get a qb at the top of the draft.
January 12th, 2013 at 11:35 pm
Reid might have him pegged as McNabb 2.0
January 12th, 2013 at 11:36 pm
lefty12 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 11:29 pm
Priest,I don’t understand why you have such a problem with QBs that aren’t black.You give them no credit.You stated Eli sucks.You say Flacco sucks.I’m waiting for Brady to lose so you can see he has sucked all these years-he only won because of the team around him.How about Payton-does he suck too?I understand your promoting black QBs because they weren’t given the opportunities in the past,but why the hate on QBs that have shown to be very good?
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I feel the same about you with black QB’s lefty12….
What makes you think I hate Palmer or any other white QB? that is a real leap on YOUR part…
Also I have never EVER mentioned or focused on white or black QB’s I have ONLY mentioned them as athletic you ASSUME I mean black.
January 12th, 2013 at 11:36 pm
I know this is late but i just want to say it was awesome watching the donks go down and their qb being at fault. Fun game
January 12th, 2013 at 11:36 pm
Calling people idiots because they question something they have never seen.Really,you should be better than that.
January 12th, 2013 at 11:36 pm
Old lady is calling. Must want the LD.
Peace to THE NATION!
January 12th, 2013 at 11:37 pm
Also I have never said Flacco sucks I think he’s very good he’s just NOT a leader. I said Eli sucked because he did when he led the league in ints one year.
January 12th, 2013 at 11:38 pm
dr_robert Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 11:29 pm
Martz’s offense would really compliment what the raiders have. A bunch of receivers and a rb that catches the ball well. Plus a good, accurate, strong armed qb. Palmer is the best qb he would have had since Warner.
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I think he’d get along alot better with Palmer than he did with Cutler too. Not that they should be friends. In fact i’d like to see Palmer get more forceful and take more control than what i’ve seen, but Martz and Palmer might make a good team.
We need some studs at receiver though.
January 12th, 2013 at 11:39 pm
I think I’m going with Atlanta tomorrow. They, much like Seattle, are much tougher at home. I’m a little nervous about it because Seattle has been undeniably hot of late. But I think Clemons is a pretty big loss and I think the home crowd plays a factor.
Also, Tony G has been killing it this year. He’s a man on a mission and his ability to keep the chains moving is HUGE for that team.
January 12th, 2013 at 11:40 pm
lefty12 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 11:36 pm
Calling people idiots because they question something they have never seen.Really,you should be better than that.
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Lefty12, You know me man, I’m not going to, stand still and let people attack me without defense.
IMO this is NOT a white black convo it’s an athletic and statue convo soo to interject race is making it something I didn’t.
January 12th, 2013 at 11:42 pm
good night nation, white, black, yellow, purple, orange, red, violet, what ever, after all we’re nation, so just b cool and look at things objectively , peace
January 12th, 2013 at 11:42 pm
SR Raider Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 11:36 pm
I know this is late but i just want to say it was awesome watching the donks go down and their qb being at fault. Fun game
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I know. All the hype. The Papa Johns commercials. The 11 game winning streak. All the money they paid for him. Then, at the end of the day, he ends up doing worse than Tebow. I’m not a Tebow fan, i’m just sayin’. At least Tebow got a playoff win for Denver.
Sorry. I’m not feeling sorry for Peyton Manning.
January 12th, 2013 at 11:43 pm
DJ Johnny,
One of the worst stretches of coaching and one of the worst playoff losses I’ve ever seen. If Fox was coach of the Raiders and lost a game in that fashion I’d want him run out of town, despite the 13-3 record. That was absolutely gutless football.
January 12th, 2013 at 11:46 pm
dr_robert Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 11:34 pm
I’m wondering if it might be a good idea to grab geno. Not many chances to get a qb at the top of the draft.
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I see what you’re saying. Man that’s a tuff one.
Well, alot of guys are convinced we’re picking # 1 next y, although I am not one of those who thinks we’re gonna be # 1 pick type of bad next yr.
January 12th, 2013 at 11:47 pm
Priest,have you ever read me say anything negative about RG3,Kap,Or Wilson.My only complaint is they might get injured.I have said they could all be successful as pocket passers due to their passing ability.I haven’t seen that from Pryor,yet.hopefully we will as time goes on.However,you have made disparaging remarks against Eli,Flacco,Ryan,and others.You have NEVER made such remarks against Cam,RG3,or any black QB.As I said earlier lets not get just a black QB,lets get a good QB.If he happens to be black who cares,as long as he is good.Hopefully Pryor turns out to be that guy.All I’m saying is I haven’t seen the evidence he is-YET.
January 12th, 2013 at 11:48 pm
Everyone keeps saying that about Tebow. He got a playoff win, but Manning led them to a bye, so they both went down in the Div round. Difference was Manning lost in a Double OT heartbreaker while Tebow’s team got its doors blown off in that spot.
Sorry, but comparing Tebow to Manning is ludicrous.
January 12th, 2013 at 11:49 pm
Chris, I know. Imagine if that was us…at home…after a season like that.
This blog would explode and I would be absolutely livid.
It really shocked me how conservative they got.
January 12th, 2013 at 11:52 pm
1126, The comparison to Tebow is more an effort to rub it in to Manning, not that anyone really thinks Tebow is a better pro or anything. Just a fun factoid to tick off Denver fans.
January 12th, 2013 at 11:54 pm
lefty12 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 11:47 pm
Priest,have you ever read me say anything negative about RG3,Kap,Or Wilson.My only complaint is they might get injured.I have said they could all be successful as pocket passers due to their passing ability.I haven’t seen that from Pryor,yet.hopefully we will as time goes on.However,you have made disparaging remarks against Eli,Flacco,Ryan,and others.You have NEVER made such remarks against Cam,RG3,or any black QB.As I said earlier lets not get just a black QB,lets get a good QB.If he happens to be black who cares,as long as he is good.Hopefully Pryor turns out to be that guy.All I’m saying is I haven’t seen the evidence he is-YET.
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As far as disparaging remarks go. I’m not sure what you are referring to. I said Eli sucked the others haven’t won a SB how is the truth disparaging?
No one has seen it at this level yet………..I’m cool but I’m not going to let someone convince me of something I don’t believe. Now I know he hasn’t done it YET. They have their opinion I have mine.period
We’ll see who’s wrong and ho’s right in due time…
Adios!
January 12th, 2013 at 11:57 pm
I wonder often if Pryor were white how would he be recieved…………..my feelings are he would be recieved very differently…………Peace!
January 12th, 2013 at 11:58 pm
Priest,I don’t like to talk race on here but because I believe we are friends I don’t mind.I have a feel for where you are coming from.I try to understand where you are coming from.I hope you can see where I’m coming from.I know we both have what is best for the Raiders at heart.Just remember,while it may be important what guys like Kap,Wilson,etc do with other teams, to me since they aren’t Raiders it means nothing.I don’t care,they don’t wear the Silver and Black.
January 12th, 2013 at 11:59 pm
White Niner fans hate on kaepernick the same way white Raider fans hate on Pryor it’s some common denominator. We all know what that is………if we’re honest.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:03 am
lefty12 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 11:58 pm
Priest,I don’t like to talk race on here but because I believe we are friends I don’t mind.I have a feel for where you are coming from.I try to understand where you are coming from.I hope you can see where I’m coming from.I know we both have what is best for the Raiders at heart.Just remember,while it may be important what guys like Kap,Wilson,etc do with other teams, to me since they aren’t Raiders it means nothing.I don’t care,they don’t wear the Silver and Black.
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I’m cool Lefty12………it’ ALL GOOD! I’m just saying give the kid a chance the same chance anyone else would be given. Then judge him..
Take care man! I out!
January 13th, 2013 at 12:06 am
Just logging in. Please no Mike Martz. If Dennis hates his job he will hire Martz to get himself fired.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:06 am
Don’t you believe that there are black guys that support Pryor only because he is black?How about those that hated Cable for being 8-8,give him zero credit yet love Hue for having the same record?Unfortunately it goes both ways.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:08 am
Dr Robert stfu with that Pryor can’t throw crap. He can throw just fine. His motion is not always pretty but he gets it done. He can gun it in there when he wants to.
Terrelle Pryor – 2010 Highlights
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBognMAW9Es
January 13th, 2013 at 12:13 am
lefty12 Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 12:06 am
Don’t you believe that there are black guys that support Pryor only because he is black?How about those that hated Cable for being 8-8,give him zero credit yet love Hue for having the same record?Unfortunately it goes both ways.
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I’m sure it does. But sure it’s there.
But I feel Cable was a decent coach and so was Hue my only thing with Hue is I loved his offense. That is why I hated to see him get fired. Cable was solid I’m not sure how good a coach he was because of Hue’s offense. They both had unfortunate endings just the same.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:14 am
Oh and these TP highlights look a lot like what Kap did to the Packers Saturday night.
Terrelle Pryor – 2010 Highlights
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBognMAW9Es
January 13th, 2013 at 12:20 am
The next time we get rooked by the refs, we need to remember how the replacement officials affected the outcome of this season, should Seattle go on to win and since GB lost.
Green Bay’s fate might have been different had they been awarded that game as they should have.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:25 am
White Niner fans hate on kaepernick the same way white Raider fans hate on Pryor it’s some common denominator. We all know what that is………if we’re honest.
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Are you sure of that? I mean, believe it or not, a lot of fans of football teams aren’t like us, reading articles about the players. Ashamed to admit it, but there are Niner fans on one side of my family, ticket holders, too. It wasn’t until recently that they even knew Kaepernick’s race/races. They knew he was adopted, but thought he was Greek.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:28 am
Shutdown Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 12:20 am
The next time we get rooked by the refs, we need to remember how the replacement officials affected the outcome of this season, should Seattle go on to win and since GB lost.
Green Bay’s fate might have been different had they been awarded that game as they should have.
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Whatever. Green Bay’s fate may have been different if Aaron Rodgers hadn’t been sacked 8 times in the 1st half of that game.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:30 am
“Oh and these TP highlights look a lot like what Kap did to the Packers Saturday night.
Terrelle Pryor – 2010 Highlights
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBognMAW9Es”
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You’re joking, right? I stopped the video at the 35 sec mark. His first three passes were wobbling like a duck shot from the sky. The fourth was lofted high, apex allowed the defensive back to have a chance to intercept although he didn’t.
He surely can run though. Have to give him that.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:34 am
Watched more–my gawd, man, his passes wobble. He won’t be able to thread any needles.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:36 am
Play Knapp football one year, play Martz football the next?
C’mon man.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:03 am
You know, the Broncos deserved to lose if for no other reason than their wearing those hideously neon orange jerseys instead of their blues. Notice this year, they seem to have worn them all the time at home, as if wanting Manning to feel at home in orange?
In the annals of style, no one other than very fair, very blond women (Scandinavians) are allowed to wear orange w/out being mocked for bad taste.
Orange is okay for an small accent; thus, the orange trim down the side of the Chicago Bears’ unis are fine, the orange C on their helmets is acceptable, but the orange jerseys the Bears don now and then are absolutely unacceptable.
The Tampa Bay Bucs have rust, not quite orange jerseys, which are ugly, but they were going for ugly to give themselves a new image –rust orange and pewter.
Now, I am going to contradict myself entirely because I am making an exception for one and only one orange jersey and that’s because the color was unique and it was part of a whole unique package that made up a memorable uniform. I thought the old Tampa Bay Buc unis were great, but because the team stunk up the place, they buried those orange sherbet jerseys and the fancy dandy on the side of the helmet. Looking back, those unis were one of a kind, and for that reason alone, I approve of them.
In the same way, I approve of the double knit unis of baseball and the unique look of the Oakland A’s.
Done.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:29 am
Shutdown Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 1:03 am
You know, the Broncos deserved to lose if for no other reason than their wearing those hideously neon orange jerseys instead of their blues. Notice this year, they seem to have worn them all the time at home, as if wanting Manning to feel at home in orange?
In the annals of style, no one other than very fair, very blond women (Scandinavians) are allowed to wear orange w/out being mocked for bad taste.
Orange is okay for an small accent; thus, the orange trim down the side of the Chicago Bears’ unis are fine, the orange C on their helmets is acceptable, but the orange jerseys the Bears don now and then are absolutely unacceptable.
The Tampa Bay Bucs have rust, not quite orange jerseys, which are ugly, but they were going for ugly to give themselves a new image –rust orange and pewter.
Now, I am going to contradict myself entirely because I am making an exception for one and only one orange jersey and that’s because the color was unique and it was part of a whole unique package that made up a memorable uniform. I thought the old Tampa Bay Buc unis were great, but because the team stunk up the place, they buried those orange sherbet jerseys and the fancy dandy on the side of the helmet. Looking back, those unis were one of a kind, and for that reason alone, I approve of them.
In the same way, I approve of the double knit unis of baseball and the unique look of the Oakland A’s.
Done.
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And with that , the reality of the offseason rears its head.
uniform fashion comments after one of the most thrilling playoff games in history…with another shocker ending….
cmon Senior Bowl, Hula Bowl and Shrine game!!! Hurry Combine!!
January 13th, 2013 at 1:30 am
KoolKell Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 12:36 am
Play Knapp football one year, play Martz football the next?
C’mon man
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Yeah, he’s only been to two Super Bowl’s WINNING one as a coordinator.
he was an architect of one of the greatest offenses in history, turning a former grocery bagger into a Hall of FAme QB
wtf did Knapp do?
January 13th, 2013 at 1:32 am
Shutdown Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 12:25 am
White Niner fans hate on kaepernick the same way white Raider fans hate on Pryor it’s some common denominator. We all know what that is………if we’re honest.
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Are you sure of that? I mean, believe it or not, a lot of fans of football teams aren’t like us, reading articles about the players. Ashamed to admit it, but there are Niner fans on one side of my family, ticket holders, too. It wasn’t until recently that they even knew Kaepernick’s race/races. They knew he was adopted, but thought he was Greek.
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Somebody on this thread has already said Black athleticism, white brain.
pathetic. Wish the kid luck, but there are some battles decided before people ever take the field.
Glad this movie is coming out before baseball season
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iP3G4E2ael8
January 13th, 2013 at 1:34 am
RaiderSam Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 1:30 am
KoolKell Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 12:36 am
Play Knapp football one year, play Martz football the next?
C’mon man
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Yeah, he’s only been to two Super Bowl’s WINNING one as a coordinator.
he was an architect of one of the greatest offenses in history, turning a former grocery bagger into a Hall of FAme QB
wtf did Knapp do?
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What has he done in 4 stops since then?
January 13th, 2013 at 1:39 am
Lefty12 Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 12:06 am
Don’t you believe that there are black guys that support Pryor only because he is black?How about those that hated Cable for being 8-8,give him zero credit yet love Hue for having the same record?Unfortunately it goes both ways.
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Cable’s QB was Jason Campbell, not Jason Bourne
What point are you trying to make?
January 13th, 2013 at 2:01 am
Dr_robert Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 11:32 pm
Priest thinks all qb’s should be allowed to get ten starts before anyone can determine what they can do. He apparently doesn’t realize MOST nfl qb’s are judged well before they ever step in the field. And most never see the field at all.
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Kurt Warner got cut from practice squads plenty of times until they finally let him on the field to play, every1 knows how that ended…..so what Im trying to say is Priest is right, players need opportunities to showcase their talent or their capabilities.. i think coaches mess up a lot basing PT solely on practice evaluations.. throw players in the game w the dogs so to speak, now evaluate the players based of that PT, not based off practice.. though practice does hold a lot of weight, dont get me wrong.. see difference in charles woodson when he was in oakland to his early years in green bay, and thats cause how serious he took practice..
January 13th, 2013 at 2:07 am
I talked to some ex-NFL scout about this interview w/ Martz and he said he didn’t like the idea of Martz and Palmer teaming up because Martz offense isn’t built to protect the QB….. i.e. Martz OC years at Detroit, Kitna was sacked the most in the NFL and ended up getting injured when Lions were 6-2 going into week 9 as one best records in NFC.
but idk, Martz offense is derived from the same offense that Saunders made his playbook from. Coryell “vertical offense” .. so I wouldn’t mind them two brainstorming offensive gameplans with this personnel…. and Palmer seems to be type of QB to withstand Martz tough coaching style.. + Palmer also seems smarter than Kitna to read defense quicker and let go ball faster..Im curious to see how Martz would use McFadden; Marshall Faulk had most scrimmage yards in the same season Martz was play-caller for Rams “Greatest Show On Turf”
January 13th, 2013 at 2:11 am
“Like Martz and Vermeil, there were many other coaches that would utilize the principles of the Air Coryell passing game, most notably Norv Turner of the San Diego Chargers, Bill Belichick of the New England Patriots and Sean Payton of the New Orleans Saints, all of which have had great offensive success. “
January 13th, 2013 at 2:22 am
Sam,what I was saying is while it is obvious there are white people that are against coaches or players because of their color,there are also black people that favor coaches and players because of their color.
January 13th, 2013 at 2:31 am
Freezetag168 Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 10:57 pm
Carson Palmer 2012 Salary: $4,716,667 ($825,000 base) 4-11 in 15 Starts (.267 pct)
Projected 2013 Salary:$16,891,667 ($13,000,000 base)
Colin Kaepernick 2012 Salary: $1,164,610 ($607,922 base)
2-3 and 1-0 post season in 6 Starts (.500)
Projected 2013 Salary:$1,297,532 ($740,844 base)
Can help but think: Drafting Kaepernick would’ve meant saving draft picks 2012 round 1 and 3(used to draft TP) + 2013 round 2.
9er football operations efficiency makes me wanna throw up.
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Hue Jackson had Kaepernick #1 on his draft board, the thing is Niners pick was like 10 spots before Raiders 2nd round pick
January 13th, 2013 at 3:17 am
[...] this is a mock draft with a different take on what we can do perhaps. *Most o more… Raiders interview Martz for off. coord. vacancy – ibabuzz.com 01/12/2013 The Raiders interviewed Mike Martz for their offensive coordinator [...]
January 13th, 2013 at 3:27 am
I’ll take Martz & Castillo
Didn’t Allen also say that Saunders would be considered for OC?
so far, it seems like we’re putting an emphasis on throwing the ball downfield. Knapp was the most run-oriented coordinator of the past decade. I told you guys that before we hired him and you all gave me that “deer in the headlights” look
you can’t have a run-oriented OC with 3 fragile RB’s … doesn’t work
plus you just spent 2 years with Hue Jack, so you know it’s gonna take a year to adjust
Looks like we’ll have our 3rd different offense in as many seasons. continuity!!
Look for Carson Palmer to have 20+ turnovers (again)
January 13th, 2013 at 3:34 am
Who did Peyton Manning remind everybody of yesterday??
Carson Palmer.
290 yards & 3 TD’s
thats all some fans are gonna see, plus 35 points on the scoreboard (even though 14 came from special teams)
I’m looking at 3 turnovers and a loss.
Can’t wait for Dr Bob to come in here and blame everybody else for the loss, like Peyton didn’t let his team down or wasn’t the #1 reason they wont advance in the playoffs. Love his other one-liner when somebody doesn’t agree with him “you don’t know football”
January 13th, 2013 at 3:37 am
Tim Tebow & Dennis Allen won a playoff game last year.
the two guys ALMOST every Raider fan love to hate
Peyton Manning & Jack Del Rio enter the picture.
Do they still count as upgrades?
HAHA. sweet justice. Screw you Elway!!
January 13th, 2013 at 4:03 am
loved seeing the horse humpers & fudge packers lose yesterday …
I like Rodgers & McCarthy, but it was hard to root for them when we’re waiting in line to interview their assistants!!
January 13th, 2013 at 4:39 am
Colin Kaepernick has solid coaching.
Plus the support of a great running game & defense.
oh yeah, and the best tight end in the league doesn’t hurt either.
SF’s O-Line is also 10 times better than ours
please don’t compare that guy (or Alex Smith) to Palmer or Pryor!!
Alex Smith is going to fail miserably at his next stop. Let’s hope it’s Kansas City
January 13th, 2013 at 4:54 am
predictions:
after Matt Cassel gets cut by KC and clears waivers, he will join Oakland as #2 QB. he’ll sign for a little less than Jason Campbell did in Chicago. He was a Pro Bowler 2 years ago
Carson Palmer was the best man at his wedding and the Raiders need a backup QB with experience in case Palmer gets injured. Pryor would be a terrible fit for the Martz offense and our O-Line is gonna get Palmer killed (again) with all the predictable pass plays and 7-step drops
Reggie’s first two FA signings will be WR G.Jennings (Packers) & CB R.Mathis (Jags) though!
January 13th, 2013 at 5:34 am
The panthers have cut LB coach warren belin. Not sure why as he did wonders after losing 2 starters last year(his 1st as coach in NFL) and his LB’s played well this year as we saw first hand.
In others news, F U donkeys!
January 13th, 2013 at 5:39 am
If memory serves correct, wasn’t martz available last year? Why was he not brought in over knapp last year? Who’s calling the shots? These 2 offenses are exact opposite of each other! Has Allens’ “vision” changed?
January 13th, 2013 at 6:30 am
I actually think pryor could be what martz offense needed. Biggest problem has beenqb sacksand pressures. imagine pryor buying time, with 4 wrs running around, the mcfadden. Whoa. Pryor also makes it so you can have less protection. Send everyone out. As opposed to cp3 and pm18. Where any pressure, and the play is blown up. And for everyone who thinks its only race. Im white.
January 13th, 2013 at 6:31 am
So Martz is the OC? Maybe we can move beyond gutless fooball now. No mo gutless wonders. The dude can pinch a serious loaf.
January 13th, 2013 at 6:33 am
Martz and Big Mac will put the best team out there in order to win fooball games. Big Mac can pinch a mean loaf. No mo gutless Raider ball.
January 13th, 2013 at 6:35 am
Lazy and gutless Raider fooball will be a thing of the past. Martz and Big Mac will have this team pinching big loafs. Go Falcons.
January 13th, 2013 at 6:35 am
Shutdown Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 1:03 am
You know, the Broncos deserved to lose if for no other reason than their wearing those hideously neon orange jerseys instead of their blues. Notice this year, they seem to have worn them all the time at home, as if wanting Manning to feel at home in orange?
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The orange jerseys were a response to the fans, many of whom never got over being pissed that they traded the old “Orange Crush” uniforms for the newer style, which changed the blue to navy and deemphasized the orange. It was a really big deal in Denver, believe it or not. They made the orange jersey their permanent home jersey this year and scrapped the navy blue one.
January 13th, 2013 at 6:39 am
New England has a better chance of beating B-mo than soft Houston. B-mo needs to get no further because if what sara goose did to Gannon. How quickly people forget. Choke artist Denver did us no favors. What B-mo did to Gannon in front of the refs was much worse than anything Denver ever did to us. At least we have the option of beating Denver annually. O how quickly people forget.
January 13th, 2013 at 6:40 am
Is martz hired?
January 13th, 2013 at 6:42 am
Good Morning Raider Nation!!! It’s a beautiful day to be a Raider Fan, isn’t it?
January 13th, 2013 at 6:43 am
It’s gonna take more than Martz to get us to the super show. Does Allen have what it takes to pinch a macho loaf? I say he do. Together with Big Mac and a rebuilt squad we will beat the niners in the super show next year. Remember u heard it hear first.
January 13th, 2013 at 6:46 am
Denver choked big time. B-mo took out Gannon and won. sara goose never even got a penalty. That’s why Denver needed to win. But they choked on their own loaf. How quickly people forget.
January 13th, 2013 at 6:47 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 3:34 am
Who did Peyton Manning remind everybody of yesterday??
Carson Palmer.
290 yards & 3 TD’s
thats all some fans are gonna see, plus 35 points on the scoreboard (even though 14 came from special teams)
I’m looking at 3 turnovers and a loss.
Can’t wait for Dr Bob to come in here and blame everybody else for the loss, like Peyton didn’t let his team down or wasn’t the #1 reason they wont advance in the playoffs. Love his other one-liner when somebody doesn’t agree with him “you don’t know football”
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so, Champ Bailey had nothing to do with the loss yesterday?
Or giving up a hail mary with 40 seconds on the clock when the Ravens had no timeouts and down by 7?
Manning made his mistakes as well, but there is plenty of blame to go around after that loss.
January 13th, 2013 at 6:51 am
It’s been so long since I’ve seen a double overtime football game, I didn’t know the rules and wondered what the he11 Baltimore was doing at the end of the first overtime. I thought it was like the end of a half, not a quarter. I do remember a triple OT game between Miami and Sandy Eggo back in the ’80s with Kellen Winslow coming back from the dead 4 or 5 times. Don’t remember who won even tho’ I’m sure I had money on it. Probably won. We remember our losses more than our wins.
January 13th, 2013 at 6:56 am
Back-n-Black Says:
Manning made his mistakes as well, but there is plenty of blame to go around after that loss.
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Might actually be a team game, after all. Lose a game with 35 points on the board, the D was less than stellar.
January 13th, 2013 at 6:59 am
Plunketthead Says:
Martz has not done so well lately especially so in Chicago
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Cutler can ruin any offensive coordinator.
January 13th, 2013 at 7:02 am
Stank Waters, You mention pinching a loaf in 5 out of 6 posts in less than half an hour. Maybe a restroom break is in order? Or is that just a fixation?
January 13th, 2013 at 7:04 am
Palmers numbers mean nothing, in any game he threw a backbreaking pick. That has to be 4 games. To me if I didnt watch the games I would say palmers a good qb. But I do and hes not. id bet if u lined up brady, brees, peyton, and palmer on a practice field palmer might win a throwing contest. That doent mean hes in thier league. Theyre winners. He panicks
January 13th, 2013 at 7:12 am
Does anyone else find it humorous that the Broncos got exactly as far in the playoffs this year with Peyton as they did last year with Tebow?
January 13th, 2013 at 7:14 am
Palmer doesn’t panic. It’s the gunslinger mentality, just like Favre. Could he make better decisions at times? Sure. Was he the QB you’d want in Hue’s offense? Absolutely. Knapp’s offense? Not so much.
January 13th, 2013 at 7:15 am
Offense, offense, offense.
If these playoffs are showing you anything, it’s that a good offense beats a good defense all day long
Star, Moore, Mingo, and all these cats are not stopping playoff offenses.
Priority should be 2 offensive OGs and 2 WRs. One of each of those positions are going to have to be free agents.
January 13th, 2013 at 7:17 am
You wanna see better passing schemes next year (including backs out of the backfield)? Then, bring on Mr. Martz. Faulk loved him in St. Louie – that’s a good enough endorsement for me.
January 13th, 2013 at 7:18 am
I STILL say that we need to spend the money to bring in Henry Melton – Priority #1
January 13th, 2013 at 7:19 am
I believe in Streater. That kid is going to be GREAT. Moore and Ford should make us feel real good about the depth of this position, but I don’t trust these 2 enough to pencil them in as starters. Dwayne Bowe sounds a lot better.
January 13th, 2013 at 7:20 am
raidertbone Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 7:12 am
Does anyone else find it humorous that the Broncos got exactly as far in the playoffs this year with Peyton as they did last year with Tebow?
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They actually lost in the same round as last year. Only difference is Manning allowed them a bye week instead of playing the Wild Card round last week.
Of course, the extra week did their defense no good.
And, this time last year we were laughing about a blowout loss to the Patriots instead of a back n forth Double OT game that was decided by a FG.
The Miami Heat didn’t win in the 1st year either. Year 2 in that offense will be huge and Denver has a lot of money to work with again this offseason.
January 13th, 2013 at 7:21 am
Martz should be great for DMac.
And they don’t come more immobile than Kurt Warner.
I think it’s a good fit. And at least a good line of thinking as to how Palmer and Dmac should be use.
January 13th, 2013 at 7:22 am
raidertbone Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 7:12 am
Does anyone else find it humorous that the Broncos got exactly as far in the playoffs this year with Peyton as they did last year with Tebow?
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Yea I did not watch the game but when my son told me the score I just started laughing.
There are probably Denver fans related to people on this blog that want Tebow back now! LOL
One thing is the Ravens just exposed Denver – need to go over the top early and often. Oakland has the WRs for that if the right side of the line can hold the pass rush long enough.
January 13th, 2013 at 7:25 am
Note: I am basing that opinion about going deep on watching replays of the game. It looks like even when they did not throw it deep they were sending people deep. I hope we get Ford back healthy and mentially ready next year 100%. I think he can be very similiar to Jones.
January 13th, 2013 at 7:27 am
Martz on paper would be a great hire! Just need to confirm that he is healthy enough and hungry enough to really put in the time to improve this team like he did for St Louis, Detriot and Chi. He has had some health issues.
January 13th, 2013 at 7:27 am
Jhill
I agree that the best defense is a good offense.
In the AFC West to beat Peyton you have to keep him off the field.
I think you need a balanced attack however with more of a 50/50 run/pass mix especially with some of the rainy, windy conditions you can get late in the season.
That all being said, if a Denver DT was in Flacco’s grill on the Hail Mary, we would be wishing Ray well in his retirement.
January 13th, 2013 at 7:30 am
Let me say I want palmer to do well if hes here. And it seems like a simple fix. If what u say is right. He needs to check his ego at the door. He lets down his whole team w rhose double coverage throws. I see being a gunslinger in the firdt half. But the game on the line you.dont take those chances.
January 13th, 2013 at 7:32 am
Remember that Mike’s O requires exemplary Oline play.
To my knowledge we do not have an Orlando Pace on the roster.
January 13th, 2013 at 7:34 am
Back-N-Black Says:
They actually lost in the same round as last year. Only difference is Manning allowed them a bye week instead of playing the Wild Card round last week.
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They lost at home with Peyton, on the road with Tebow. I don’t care about Tebow, but that is funny sh!t.
January 13th, 2013 at 7:38 am
Imagine jordans career with the same numbers. He just always missed.the final shot. or turned it over. Hes just another guy. Theres winners who just find a way to win. Then tjeres everyone else.
January 13th, 2013 at 7:39 am
I like the idea of Martz coming in here Palmer is just as good a Warner and Dmac can be as good as Faulk, Veldeer is not on the level of Pace but he may get close. Our WR’s compare nicely to Holt(Dmoore), Bruce(Ford) and Az Hakim and we wouldnt really need a tight end because Martz O doesnt utilize the TE.
January 13th, 2013 at 7:42 am
Kaepernick looks like a cocky little d-bag that needs his clock cleaned. I hope Seattle wins today and slaps his little b!tch ass!
Fk both the Harbough sisters too, sick of those twat ass’s.
January 13th, 2013 at 7:43 am
I was thinking DHB as Bruce
January 13th, 2013 at 7:45 am
Does anyone think a martz offense would get taiwan a shot. Wth the field bieng spread
January 13th, 2013 at 7:47 am
We sunk to 4-12 and all you can think about is Taiwan? WTF
Do you have a poster of him on your bedroom ceiling?
SMH
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Myopinion Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 7:45 am
Does anyone think a martz offense would get taiwan a shot. Wth the field bieng spread
January 13th, 2013 at 7:47 am
J Hill, you down on my boy Ford and Moore?
January 13th, 2013 at 7:49 am
Yes I do a fathead. I can see youve started your menstrual cycle. I will watch what I say fir the week.
January 13th, 2013 at 7:52 am
Lets see. Mannings offense puts up 35 points and guys say he was the reason they lost. The best qb of all time. And he sucks cuz they lost. This is the brain power in here. I’m happy they lost since I hate the broncos but its, u know, kinda hard to win games in the nfl. Turnovers or not, if u put up 35 points and lose, it’s the defenses fault. Duh.
January 13th, 2013 at 7:52 am
REALLIONAIREB Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 7:43 am
I was thinking DHB as Bruce
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DHB is not fluid enough his movements are too stiff.
January 13th, 2013 at 7:53 am
Mike martz? Does he come with Orlando pace? He never runs the ball.
Smh
Jezuz!
January 13th, 2013 at 7:53 am
I am not big on Martz.
He had a great run at St Louis but his O needs much more line talent than we have right now.
His other stops as an OC were inconsistent.
“Following the 2005 season, however, Martz left after suffering reported health setbacks that forced him to miss much of the 2005 season with the Rams.
He would end up having short stints with Detroit, San Francisco and Chicago as an offensive coordinator, and continued to struggle offensively.”
“Martz was commonly criticized for aggressive play-calling, and the calls for a pass-happy offense led to quarterback Jay Cutler getting repeatedly sacked. The issue caused Cutler to say to Martz “Tell him I said f*ck him!” in a game against the Minnesota Vikings in 2011.[7][8]”
His offense an All Pro Oline.
I believe the only way he or Castillo come to Oakland is if we use our first pick on the Oline.
January 13th, 2013 at 7:54 am
Sorry.
His offense “NEEDS’ an AllPro Oline.
January 13th, 2013 at 7:56 am
I’m gonna say Seattle and New England today. At least that’s what the Vegas line leads me to believe. Seattle less than a 3 point dog against one of the top teams in the nfl all year? Basically begging u to take Atlanta. It couldn’t be any lower. So lots of chumps will be all over the falcons. We know what that means. And the pars laying almost ten to a team most people thought were the best team in the afc a few weeks ago?
So much for everyone thinking a texans/falcons Super Bowl was in store.
January 13th, 2013 at 7:56 am
BettEr find a way to draft Joeckel!
January 13th, 2013 at 7:58 am
Let’s hire the oc who was too dumb to use marshal Faulk one he was hc.
January 13th, 2013 at 7:58 am
Martz had kit a in Detroit. Alex smith in sf. Cutler in Chicago (with worse wrs than we have). Kinda hard to electrify with those mutts.
January 13th, 2013 at 7:59 am
Manning had 21 pts. And two vb picks. In how many opportunities
January 13th, 2013 at 7:59 am
He didn’t use Faulk?
January 13th, 2013 at 8:03 am
Dr_robert Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 7:52 am
Lets see. Mannings offense puts up 35 points and guys say he was the reason they lost. The best qb of all time. And he sucks cuz they lost. This is the brain power in here. I’m happy they lost since I hate the broncos but its, u know, kinda hard to win games in the nfl. Turnovers or not, if u put up 35 points and lose, it’s the defenses fault. Duh.
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I understand where you are coming from, but Manning gets so much praise, so when he throws a bone head pick like he did he should be heavily scrutinized. And btw Manning has never been all that great in big games his playoff record is not that great and he only has one SB and cost his team another with another bone headed pick to tracy porter.
January 13th, 2013 at 8:04 am
In the sb vs the patriots.
January 13th, 2013 at 8:05 am
Yeah but he’s the greatest qb that SNL has ever had on. So he gets credit for that.
January 13th, 2013 at 8:06 am
Dakota Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 7:58 am
Let’s hire the oc who was too dumb to use marshal Faulk one he was hc.
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He didnt use Faulk? did you watch the games? 1000 yard rushing 1000 yards rec and he didnt use him? wow smh.
January 13th, 2013 at 8:08 am
Well I’m a martz fan. Great offensive mind. What’s not to like about bringing in a guy who always has “great offensive mind” attached to him in any article?
But I doubt he’s hired. It would have already happened. Someone pointed out that the packers and broncos are both out now so the expected direct lines between those teams and ours will now have their chance.
January 13th, 2013 at 8:10 am
Someone said Vernon davis was the best te in football. In a league where gronkowslo, graham, and González play. Wow.
January 13th, 2013 at 8:17 am
Dr
Martz is a great offensive stratgist. No doubt.
His O just needs an All Pro level Oline to be effective.
I think you are correct that the Packer, Bronco relationship could now kick in.
The only outside candidate I see coming here is someone where the OC job is a promotion. Similar to a Gruden to the Eagles OC job when he was a “Special Assistant” to Holmgren with the Packers.
January 13th, 2013 at 8:19 am
Dr_robert Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 8:10 am
Someone said Vernon davis was the best te in football. In a league where gronkowslo, graham, and González play. Wow.
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I agree VD is the best tight end in the league and is by far the worst match up nightmare. Gronz plays with Brady Graham plays with Brees and Gonzalez plays with Matt Ryan meanwhile VD has had Alex Smith enough said. Put VD with Brady or Brees and tou would see why he’s the best TE.
January 13th, 2013 at 8:22 am
The Oakland Raiders have held exploratory talks with Ray Anderson, the NFL’s senior vice president of football operations, about a senior executive front office job as owner Mark Davis is contemplating a restructuring of the franchise’s organization, according to league sources.
The Raiders sought and received permission from the NFL to speak with Anderson, who joined the league as the football operations chief in 2006
January 13th, 2013 at 8:24 am
Funny how the Bronco forum sounds eerily similar to ours when we’re in a tight game and about to endure a devastating loss. Here are a few posts right after they gave up the bomb with 31 secs. left.
SuperCaliBronco:Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Bench Warmer: UIDIOTSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
AllejuellioBronco:noooooo waaaaayyyy my heart just exploted
Socal PeytonFan: There are no words
#24NextChamp: Rahim Moore, you suck…you suck!!!!!
rushvon#1: I feel like I’ve been kicked in the balls
broncosam: Damnitttttt, I cannot believe this
spitfireriggs: Fire john fox nowwwwwwwwwwwwwwww why why wyh why why
Junitz23: The TEBOW CURSE
Wyosoldier: Fox is playing to not lose rather than playing to win. COWARD!!!
Roushmartin6:Someone please please pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeee make a play
Elwayisback80: My gosh, we had this game won. I seriously just wana cry.
January 13th, 2013 at 8:25 am
Eastoaklandraider Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 8:06 am
Dakota Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 7:58 am
Let’s hire the oc who was too dumb to use marshal Faulk one he was hc.
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He didnt use Faulk? did you watch the games? 1000 yard rushing 1000 yards rec and he didnt use him? wow smh.
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In the sb. Widely criticized for it. Just the most important game.
January 13th, 2013 at 8:28 am
Dr_robert Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 8:10 am
Someone said Vernon davis was the best te in football. In a league where gronkowslo, graham, and González play. Wow.
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Those three you name plays with two elite QB’s and two complex passing schemes that features them Gonzalez plays with maybe the best Wr Te combination since Jerry Rice John Taylor and Brent Jones and Matty Ice is in that upper level of Up and coming Qb’s and will be ready to take the tourch when the Brady’s and Manning’s are flaming out in the years to come,but V.Davis played in a run 1st offense since day one that relies on great defense and pounding the rock with Alex Smith before a nice season he had last season and now they are read option type of pistol offense running the ball…not sayin he is the best TE but his skill level is right with these guys you name if not better…it’s all about the situation and offensive scheme they fall in,but maybe you have a different opinion Doc…and you are entiled to it
OneNation
UndaGod!!!
January 13th, 2013 at 8:33 am
Sounds like there are some niner fans in here.
January 13th, 2013 at 8:35 am
It has been more than a decade since martz oversaw a good Offense.
He is just like knapp in the sense that he knows one thing and will try and force that system on the players.
His offense requires that the qb have a long time to wait for the routes to develop.
It would be another disaster.
January 13th, 2013 at 8:36 am
I’m so happy the donkeys lost. Reggies probably going to hire GB’s water boy as OC tho..
January 13th, 2013 at 8:37 am
Well al davis thought he was an offensive genius.
January 13th, 2013 at 8:38 am
Dr_robert Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 8:33 am
Sounds like there are some niner fans in here.
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Oakland Raider til the reaper comes Doc…and when he turn is back to lead to the dark side…I will stick a raider logo on his black hoody…might build up enough nuts to pull his hood off to see if its uncle Al under there…Mr.Davis that is!!!
OneNation
UndaGod!!!
January 13th, 2013 at 8:39 am
Last time I checked they actually have to -play- the games, no?
ATL/HOU still very possible…
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# dr_robert Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 7:56 am
I’m gonna say Seattle and New England today. At least that’s what the Vegas line leads me to believe. Seattle less than a 3 point dog against one of the top teams in the nfl all year? Basically begging u to take Atlanta. It couldn’t be any lower. So lots of chumps will be all over the falcons. We know what that means. And the pars laying almost ten to a team most people thought were the best team in the afc a few weeks ago?
So much for everyone thinking a texans/falcons Super Bowl was in store.
January 13th, 2013 at 8:40 am
Dr_robert Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 8:37 am
Well al davis thought he was an offensive genius.
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Lmao
January 13th, 2013 at 8:40 am
reggie skipped ihop this morning….he is busy interviewing the gb lbs coach that watched colin kap school them….and he is busy with the gb practice squad oc…
January 13th, 2013 at 8:41 am
Dr_robert Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 8:33 am
Sounds like there are some niner fans in here.
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Game recognize Game.
January 13th, 2013 at 8:42 am
THAT is my exact fear. Right on Point Dakota. All other pros/cons pale in comparison! Cant FORCE the system on your personnel. this guy is an arrogant, stubborn (albeit brilliant) prick. Been there done that (KRAPP in ‘12)
Big Pass.
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“He (Martz) is just like knapp in the sense that he knows one thing and will try and force that system on the players.”
January 13th, 2013 at 8:43 am
Minus the bit about being brilliant of course…
“Been there done that (KRAPP in ‘12)”
January 13th, 2013 at 8:49 am
Raiders discuss job with Ray Anderson.
The Oakland Raiders have held exploratory talks with Ray Anderson, the NFL’s senior vice president of football operations, about a senior executive front office job as owner Mark Davis is contemplating a restructuring of the franchise’s organization, according to league
Some kind of Front office shakeup?
January 13th, 2013 at 8:53 am
Are the Raiders restructuring? Someone has. To help lift the load off the gut.
Pcraider
January 13th, 2013 at 9:00 am
1204.dr_robert Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 7:52 am
Lets see. Mannings offense puts up 35 points and guys say he was the reason they lost. The best qb of all time. And he sucks cuz they lost. This is the brain power in here. I’m happy they lost since I hate the broncos but its, u know, kinda hard to win games in the nfl. Turnovers or not, if u put up 35 points and lose, it’s the defenses fault. Duh.
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Manning’s offense put up 21 points, not 35-FACT. And his pick six gave Baltimore 7 points, his OT int put Baltimore 11 yards from the game winning FG when the game was on the line, so thats another 3 points. Manning is the greatest regular season QB i’ve ever seen but when the games count in the playoffs he comes up small- FACT. Obviously Chump Bailey is equally to blame as well as several other factors, but I find it hard to not put some serious blame on PM for choking in the clutch.
January 13th, 2013 at 9:06 am
ill take mike martz over most others…at least we would have soneone who pitches instead if catches…tiredof this take what they give crap…its called offense for a reason…go get what you want…
January 13th, 2013 at 9:11 am
Martz would be a good hire in my books…I said before this season that we should be running a “Greatest show on turf” style offense with CP, DMAC and our speed at WR…Then they hired Knapp to mess everything up by trying to fit round pegs into square holes…As for Martz’ stint in Chicago; He had nothing to work with on offense…Until they got Cutler and a couple of decent WRs, the Bears were all defense, no offense.
January 13th, 2013 at 9:14 am
Manning has always played poorly in cold weather.
He’s from the south.
January 13th, 2013 at 9:19 am
Pcraider Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 8:49 am
Raiders discuss job with Ray Anderson.
The Oakland Raiders have held exploratory talks with Ray Anderson, the NFL’s senior vice president of football operations, about a senior executive front office job as owner Mark Davis is contemplating a restructuring of the franchise’s organization, according to league
Some kind of Front office shakeup?
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This is interesting. I wonder what the deal is. Does Marc need another level in there further removing him from being involved?
Could this be a sign of things to come with a total overhaul AFTER the Senior Bowl? Gruden did say the other day that he wants to come back, but only to the “right” team.
Hmmmmmm, Xfiles theme music plays. Dawns tinfoil. Hoards food.
January 13th, 2013 at 9:19 am
As much as I like Manning, he did blow the game with that dumb throw back over the middle…Don’t know what was up with Bailey either…He couldn’t cover anything yesterday…and Moore blowing that deep coverage on Jones is unforgivable.
January 13th, 2013 at 9:20 am
#1244: LMAO…
January 13th, 2013 at 9:21 am
Raiders discuss job with Ray Anderson.
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Great.
Isn’t this the guy who the refs are pissed at because of the lockout?
January 13th, 2013 at 9:24 am
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 9:06 am
ill take mike martz over most others…at least we would have soneone who pitches instead if catches…tiredof this take what they give crap…its called offense for a reason…go get what you want…
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Every offense in NFL history has taken what the defense gives them. The trick is to get the defense to give you what you want.
January 13th, 2013 at 9:25 am
Stank Waters Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 6:39 am
New England has a better chance of beating B-mo than soft Houston. B-mo needs to get no further because if what sara goose did to Gannon. How quickly people forget. Choke artist Denver did us no favors. What B-mo did to Gannon in front of the refs was much worse than anything Denver ever did to us. At least we have the option of beating Denver annually. O how quickly people forget.
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I forgot about that play about 10 secs after it happened. We never had a chance in that game anyway. I’m excited for Baltimore. That’s been a damn good team for the last 5 years or so and it deserves to knock the door down. They’ve already beaten the Pats this year. Denver would have choked against them. Hoping Texans get the job done today.
January 13th, 2013 at 9:25 am
we need to piss off the refs more!
January 13th, 2013 at 9:25 am
Mike Martz uh?.
Some guys already talked about it, the guy needs an excellent OL for his Offense to work, we would need some improvement over there and hiring a capable OL Coach like Juan Castillo would be a great start.
Palmer and McFadden would thrive under Martz but the real key would be the WR’s learnining the system, Martz takes “timing passes” to a whole new level, he often asks his QB to throw the ball to a spot, these are called blind throws and the WR has to be there.
Martz didn’t last more than 2 years in Detroit, SF and Chicago, but the question remains if he had the personnel to succesfully run his system, one thing is for sure, he did not have the OL and that’s where it all starts.
I found a good article from a Chicago blog that gives me some hope about Martz:
- “Tell Mike Martz go ….. yourself.” All Bears fans remember the TV cameras picking up Jay Cutler yelling that at the sideline. Bears fans laughed, and all of Chicago agreed. Martz was the guy who was “responsible” for the 24th ranked offense that averaged 22 points a game.
If the Bears would just launch Martz, and his seven step drops, the team could be a top 10 offense. Bear nation envisioned greatness like the green and gold up north.
Well, Bear fans got their wish and Martz was shown the door. Problem solved right?.
The answer to that is a BIG FAT NO!.
The Bears currently rank 28th in the NFL behind offensive juggernauts such as the Brandon Weeden led Cleveland Browns and the Jake Locker led Tennessee Titans.
This is an offense that has the Bears single season reception record holder Brandon Marshall, Matt Forte, and promising rookie Alshon Jeffery.
If you compare that to last years squad who featured “Mr. First Down” Roy Williams, Johnny Knox, and Forte, the talent isn’t even close.
This team features a legitimate one two punch, something the Bears have never had. There’s no reason this squad should bad. Fans might point to the offensive line, but this is the same line the Bears had out there last year minus Frank Omiyale. If anyone thinks Frank is a difference maker, I ask you to please stop watching the Bears.
* Before Cutler went down last year, Martz had the Bears offense rolling. They were averaging 27 points a game, and the team looked primed to make another playoff run.
Unfortunately, the injury occurred and there wasn’t a capable backup on the squad.
Sure Martz did some crazy things, but he ran a offense. It wasn’t predictable, and he was always adding new wrinkles to the game plan.
The 2012 Bears have turned into a very predictable group. They can’t run the ball and they can only find ways to get Brandon Marshall open. I’ve never coached a football game in my life, and I’m pretty sure I could find a way to get Marshall open.
If Martz could average 27 points a game last year with that rag tag group, I’m sure the numbers would be even better with Marshall and Jeffery.
The 2012 Bears have also struggled to find ways to use Matt Forte.
Tice has used his as a straight ahead runner all year and can’t figure out how to use him as receiver.
This was Mike Martz greatest strength.
He helped turn Forte from an average back to a premier back.
He was able to get him matched up against linebackers and make him the premier pass catching running back in the league.
While Cutler might be cussing out Martz, Forte should be thanking him for his fat pay check.
Mike Martz wasn’t perfect by any means but he never deserved the criticism he received.
He worked miracles with the lack of talent he had last year, and it’s to bad he didn’t get a shot to work with this group.”
- Now this is Jay Cutler interviewed after Martz was fired:
Did Mike Martz run the offense like it was still 1999? Did he ever adapt to 2012 NFL?.
“I think there is something to be said about that.
Mike mentally being able to script up some plays and draw some stuff in the ground. There’s no one like Mike. He can get guys open better than anyone I’ve really ever been around.
He’s very, very, very, smart.
They had Orlando Pace [at left tackle]. They had some dudes up front where you were able to take seven-step drops.
I don’t think defenses were as evolved as they are now. Safeties were different. Not every team had a defensive end that was going to be able to sack you if you keep taking seven-step drops.
It was a different time, different game. Defenses I think since have kind of caught up to that. So it’s one of those things. We gave it a shot.
I still respect Mike. He’s one of the brightest minds in the game.”
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Bottom line, Martz could turn out to be a great hire or just blow up in our faces, huge risk, I’m still not ready to make a judgement.
January 13th, 2013 at 9:27 am
quack…thats the difference between an offense that wins and one that punts…be offensive, aggressive not sheep like…every offense quit it.
January 13th, 2013 at 9:28 am
I still remember hearing Cutler tell Martz to go “Fk himself” on the over head cam. That was hilarious.
January 13th, 2013 at 9:30 am
hire martz if it blows up we get rid of DA also…problem solved.
January 13th, 2013 at 9:33 am
Morilla Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 9:19 am
[snippage]
Hmmmmmm, Xfiles theme music plays. Dawns tinfoil. Hoards food.
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LOL
January 13th, 2013 at 9:36 am
Pass on Martz. He needs a lot of talent on offense to succeed. That team was loaded with talent and had 1 HOF player in Faulk (Aztec) and 2 future HOF players in Warner & Pace (Buckeye). They also T Holt and I Bruce. Loaded with talent.
The problem with Martz is he struggled with teams that have avg- above avg talent.
January 13th, 2013 at 9:37 am
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 9:30 am
hire martz if it blows up we get rid of DA also…problem solved.
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…and then they name martz head coach and we suck another couple of years?
January 13th, 2013 at 9:41 am
Thec Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 1:55 pm
BALT
SF
SEA
HOU
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2 down…2 to go
January 13th, 2013 at 9:42 am
Watching this staff work is like watching a Chinese fire drill.
January 13th, 2013 at 9:43 am
better than sharpie tits…losing like a b!tch and laughing about it…
besides you mustve missed the part about also…
January 13th, 2013 at 9:44 am
DA’s bend but don’t break D would have worked fine on that last drive and on the other times Champ Bailey got beat over his head
January 13th, 2013 at 9:44 am
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 9:43 am
better than sharpie tits…losing like a b!tch and laughing about it…
besides you mustve missed the part about also…
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SULLIVAN44
January 13th, 2013 at 9:44 am
Jfb,
I was wrong about flacco….he is my new hero, right up there with mark brunell.
January 13th, 2013 at 9:45 am
We need to see if we can steal the 9ers OC he no doubt would know how to get the most out of Pryor.
January 13th, 2013 at 9:46 am
Flacco was awesome, that arm wow just wow, he threw that 60-70 yards without even setting his feet
January 13th, 2013 at 9:46 am
“also” would be good.
January 13th, 2013 at 9:46 am
eastoaklandraider Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 9:45 am
We need to see if we can steal the 9ers OC he no doubt would know how to get the most out of Pryor.
– Along with their Oline, which is awesome
January 13th, 2013 at 9:47 am
mcxcuse really you havent learned anything? really?
January 13th, 2013 at 9:47 am
Eastoaklandraider Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 9:45 am
We need to see if we can steal the 9ers OC he no doubt would know how to get the most out of Pryor.
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Good idea.
January 13th, 2013 at 9:48 am
Wouldn’t mind Whiners D either, which gives their O a very good field position
January 13th, 2013 at 9:48 am
chris ault would know how to use pryor…
January 13th, 2013 at 9:49 am
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 9:47 am
mcxcuse really you havent learned anything? really?
— What’s you fascination with Al n 7 straight seasons of 11 losses or more? i guess you haven’t learned anything yet
January 13th, 2013 at 9:50 am
i dont judge in 7 season increments…
January 13th, 2013 at 9:51 am
the raiders have been around longer than 7 years…
January 13th, 2013 at 9:52 am
n your fascination with man D which couldn’t force punt in last week of 2011, with playoffs on line ?
January 13th, 2013 at 9:53 am
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 9:51 am
the raiders have been around longer than 7 years…
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but judging by your patience, it’s hard to believe you’re still fan of someone which just recently set an nfl record of 7 straight seasons of 11 or more losses, or fan of a scheme which couldn’t force a punt in a very must win game
January 13th, 2013 at 9:54 am
What’s you fascination with Al
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You mean the HOF owner/ GM who is the ultimate Raider?
You People….
January 13th, 2013 at 9:54 am
Al_is_theraiders is either mark davis or his wife
January 13th, 2013 at 9:56 am
Raider O Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 9:54 am
What’s you fascination with Al
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You mean the HOF owner/ GM who is the ultimate Raider?
You People….
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Its okay to like some one but saying AL was this n that , when recently he just set an nfl record for 7 straight seasons losing 11 or more games, or man D which has been ranked in bottom 5 or bottom 10 from 03-11 and recently couldn’t force a punt against a norv lead team which had nothing to play for in must win game
January 13th, 2013 at 9:58 am
last time we saw man D, Mark Sanchez was eating hotdogs on side lines, Phillip Rivers was leading Chargers to scoring drives , every possession, including 98 yard td in 4th quarter when we really needed a stop
January 13th, 2013 at 10:03 am
Who you guys going for ? Seattle or Atlanta, i personally want seattle to win, but if that happens Seattle would have to be on the road against SF whiners, if atl wins, SF would have to make a east coast trip to atlanta dome , i don’t know which team would beat Whiners
January 13th, 2013 at 10:07 am
I dont like SEA on the road against the 9ers even though they match up well against them. I just feel more confident that ATL would win at home.
January 13th, 2013 at 10:14 am
That what happens when the QB has no gun. Flacco fits that in.
January 13th, 2013 at 10:15 am
Now that the donks have been eliminated I can now root for the texans against the patriots. Previously I had to hope the patriots would knock the donks off!
I would love to see a texans falcons super bowl now. The NFL would be pizzed!
January 13th, 2013 at 10:17 am
Everybody talked shìt to me when i brought up hiring Martz last year. I said we should give him a look because his schemes match a lot closer to Hues playbook and would fit our personnel a helluva lot better than krapps style.. smh
January 13th, 2013 at 10:19 am
Just saw this on BSPN
The Oakland Raiders have held exploratory talks with Ray Anderson, the NFL’s senior vice president of football operations, about a senior executive front office job as owner Mark Davis is contemplating a restructuring of the franchise’s organization, according to league sources.
The Raiders sought and received permission from the NFL to speak with Anderson, who joined the league as the football operations chief in 2006, sources said.
Neither Anderson nor the Raiders could be reached for immediate comment.
January 13th, 2013 at 10:21 am
Well I whiffed on Kapy last night, but not this game.
I think it will be over halfway through the 3rd quarter.
Falcons and Matt Ryan are the best team left in the playoffs, and don’t have to leave a dome the rest of the stretch.
January 13th, 2013 at 10:22 am
eastoaklandraider Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 10:07 am
I dont like SEA on the road against the 9ers even though they match up well against them. I just feel more confident that ATL would win at home.
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Yeah i feel the same way, if seattle was at home i would have liked them to win and face whiners in seattle but since they will be going on the road 2 weeks in a row, i think Atlanta would be much better matchup, and would be well rested, and Matt Ryans record is good in Atlanta
January 13th, 2013 at 10:23 am
Nobody is good at home than Seattle even in their bad years, but being on the road is just another story for them
January 13th, 2013 at 10:24 am
better**
January 13th, 2013 at 10:25 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 10:21 am
Well I whiffed on Kapy last night, but not this game.
I think it will be over halfway through the 3rd quarter.
Falcons and Matt Ryan are the best team left in the playoffs, and don’t have to leave a dome the rest of the stretch.
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I’m with you on that, i think they can score on the whiners
January 13th, 2013 at 10:26 am
Whooops!!!!
LOL…I still don’t see Seattle moving the ball today.
Turnovers and ST is their only hope.
January 13th, 2013 at 10:26 am
Well i think we going to jinx atl, just when i was talking up GB last night when they were up 14-7, their guy thought catching a punt at his own 4 yard line was a good idea, n muffed it and the whiners recovered tied the game , and next drive AAron rodgers threw an int, and whiners scored again lol
January 13th, 2013 at 10:26 am
Just give Ryan a little pressure and he wilts. Shtty QB on a loaded team.
January 13th, 2013 at 10:26 am
So marks hiring a guy to help reggie already? Could be his replacment eventually.
January 13th, 2013 at 10:27 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 10:26 am
Whooops!!!!
LOL…I still don’t see Seattle moving the ball today.
Turnovers and ST is their only hope.
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It’s obvious they are only good cuz of their #1 ranked D, R Wilson is over-rated
January 13th, 2013 at 10:28 am
The idea of mike martz makes me sick. He will get our QB killed and he isn’t a fit for Pryor going forward. Doesn’t make any sense.
January 13th, 2013 at 10:28 am
Wave of the future!
January 13th, 2013 at 10:29 am
McCarthey should be fired for trotting out a rookie to fair catch a punt deep in his own territory on the road.
That kid looked scared before he caught it.
January 13th, 2013 at 10:29 am
Falcons and Matt Ryan are the best team left in the playoffs, and don’t have to leave a dome the rest of the stretch.
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Atlanta is the best team left in the playoffs?
I don’t know about that.
“the rest of the stretch” could be when this game ends.
January 13th, 2013 at 10:30 am
C’mon Lynch.
January 13th, 2013 at 10:30 am
All of these Head Coaching jobs still open and how come Gruden is not going after one of them?
It was all you tards could talk about a few weeks ago what happened?
January 13th, 2013 at 10:30 am
Martz was calling plays in the NFC championship game less than 24 months ago.
We are the KC Royals of football, that is about the best we can do.
Or we can take someone who has never been an OC before.
Pick your poison.
January 13th, 2013 at 10:33 am
All Ryan does is throw up prayers to these awesome receivers. What a joke!
January 13th, 2013 at 10:33 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 10:29 am
McCarthey should be fired for trotting out a rookie to fair catch a punt deep in his own territory on the road.
That kid looked scared before he caught it.
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Absolutely stupid, some times I think if we give these kinda coaches just okay talent, they would just show their true colors , what a stupid job they did, Packers were also doing a good job running the ball, then they got away from it n rest is history
January 13th, 2013 at 10:33 am
Were the bears in the championship due to their offense or defense jfb?
January 13th, 2013 at 10:34 am
I am so confused as to how it can be called the “Wave of the future” when college QB’s have been doing this the last 30-40 years now…its more of a regression to a lower level of the game, than a progression that we should all be proud of.
January 13th, 2013 at 10:34 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 10:26 am
Whooops!!!!
LOL…I still don’t see Seattle moving the ball today.
Turnovers and ST is their only hope.
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You didn’t see 0bama beating Romney either. You also didn’t see the Knapp disaster. I’ll wager you didn’t see Kappy beating Rogers.
I’m recalling your “Semi’ credentials. You’re to take continuing education classes, then re-apply.
January 13th, 2013 at 10:37 am
If I want to watch running QB’s I can watch college football.
If I want to see 65 passes thrown and 70 points scored I can watch Arena football.
The NFL should not compare to either of these leagues as it will eventually cheapen the game.
January 13th, 2013 at 10:37 am
Were the bears in the championship due to their offense or defense jfb?
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Week 15 and 16 they were going for the #1 seed and scored 40 and 38 points, so absolutely.
Then hung 35 on the Seachickens the first round of the playoffs.
January 13th, 2013 at 10:38 am
Matt Ryan is a world class QB.
Deal with it Debo!!!
January 13th, 2013 at 10:39 am
Martz = winner
Krapp = loser
Any questions?
January 13th, 2013 at 10:40 am
If i had to build a team from scratch, i would take Tom Coughlin
January 13th, 2013 at 10:40 am
as a coach
January 13th, 2013 at 10:40 am
st Fire Baby Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 10:38 am
Matt Ryan is a world class QB.
Deal with it Debo!!!
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Yeah, right. Three circus grabs in a row. Long way to go. Seattle looking good on D.
January 13th, 2013 at 10:42 am
Millers so much better than myers.. we need a new te.
January 13th, 2013 at 10:42 am
nice catch by Zach Miller, still a hit away from concussion
January 13th, 2013 at 10:44 am
Our wrs and rb suck running parallel to the line of scrimmage martz will use their speed to get down field.. much much better fit than krapp..
January 13th, 2013 at 10:45 am
Broken plays are only exciting because they only happen once and a while if you make it the norm then you retard the game.
Look at basketball, the fast break was cool in the 1980’s now its the way the all play, no defense and its boring to watch teams put up 120 points if you ask me.
January 13th, 2013 at 10:46 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 10:45 am
Broken plays are only exciting because they only happen once and a while if you make it the norm then you retard the game.
Look at basketball, the fast break was cool in the 1980’s now its the way the all play, no defense and its boring to watch teams put up 120 points if you ask me.
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agreed
January 13th, 2013 at 10:47 am
Dang, this is going to get ugly.
January 13th, 2013 at 10:47 am
rodgers just went beast mode against seattle lol
January 13th, 2013 at 10:47 am
braiding your hair make sure more powerful runner
January 13th, 2013 at 10:47 am
Dirty Birds understand that you keep the young, running QB in the pocket. Seattle is going to be destroyed!!!
January 13th, 2013 at 10:47 am
Atlanta getting it done so far.
Martz would be a welcome addition.
January 13th, 2013 at 10:48 am
Seattle got taste of its own medicine, now only if he had scored, it would have made it even more exciting lol
January 13th, 2013 at 10:48 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 10:46 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 10:45 am
Broken plays are only exciting because they only happen once and a while if you make it the norm then you retard the game.
Look at basketball, the fast break was cool in the 1980’s now its the way the all play, no defense and its boring to watch teams put up 120 points if you ask me.
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agreed
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You get to the playoffs with teams that have good D’s, that stuff doesn’t fly.
January 13th, 2013 at 10:48 am
Might be over by halftime.
January 13th, 2013 at 10:48 am
That was a great catch by our former tight end.
January 13th, 2013 at 10:49 am
Marks hair Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 10:47 am
braiding your hair make sure more powerful runner
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could be true lol
January 13th, 2013 at 10:50 am
Quizz Rodgers was so awesome in college, amazing he fell to whatever round he got drafted in.
He did everything at Oregon State.
January 13th, 2013 at 10:50 am
Macpaintywaist should braid his shìt.
January 13th, 2013 at 10:51 am
Our 2nd rd picks have were a bit better than our 1st rd picks, Houston, Miller, Wiz,
January 13th, 2013 at 10:51 am
“Marks hair Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 10:47 am
braiding your hair make sure more powerful runner
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could be true lol”
I am pretty sure statistics would support this!
January 13th, 2013 at 10:52 am
were*
January 13th, 2013 at 10:53 am
Boss, season ticket Donkey holder, is emailing me saying that Peyton may retire, or at least that is the talk this morning in Denver.
Arm is shot, he didn’t attempt any passes 20 yards almost the whole game.
January 13th, 2013 at 10:53 am
Pantywaist…. this thing doesnt work with phones after 1300 posts.. new thread jerry.. just reprint espns piece.
January 13th, 2013 at 10:53 am
8 out of 10 running backs with braided hair gained 1,000 yards or more in 2012…
January 13th, 2013 at 10:54 am
Wait. Mike martz is an arrogant, stubborn (although brilliant) prick?
I like him already!
January 13th, 2013 at 10:54 am
Marks hair Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 10:53 am
Pantywaist…. this thing doesnt work with phones after 1300 posts.. new thread jerry.. just reprint espns piece.
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Yeah, i hate thiz too, how hard is to just put a new post every 12 or so hours?
January 13th, 2013 at 10:55 am
obviously i made that up but that would be a funny stat!
January 13th, 2013 at 10:56 am
Eastoaklandraider Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 10:07 am
I dont like SEA on the road against the 9ers even though they match up well against them. I just feel more confident that ATL would win at home.
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agreed
January 13th, 2013 at 10:56 am
You need braided running backs to beat good D’s , Rams gave whiners run for their money, steven jackson went Bo Jackson on Willis in one of their games
January 13th, 2013 at 10:58 am
This game is another example of Vegas Sports Book taking a line and sticking with it.
The Herd had some guy on Friday from Vegas saying almost 80% of the money on this game went to Seattle.
Vegas never moved the line.
They knew they had a winner.
January 13th, 2013 at 10:59 am
Reg or DA should call up Mcfadden and ask him to grow hair n get braids or don’t ever step in their faculty again
January 13th, 2013 at 10:59 am
Over 14 mins on the field, 13 pts isn’t too bad for the Seattle D. Have to make something happen on this drive.
January 13th, 2013 at 11:01 am
RaiderDebo Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 10:59 am
Over 14 mins on the field, 13 pts isn’t too bad for the Seattle D. Have to make something happen on this drive.
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getting pretty lucky if you asked me, False start and Matt throwing behind WHite on their other drive
January 13th, 2013 at 11:02 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 9:56 am
Raider O Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 9:54 am
What’s you fascination with Al
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
You mean the HOF owner/ GM who is the ultimate Raider?
You People….
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Its okay to like some one but saying AL was this n that , when recently he just set an nfl record for 7 straight seasons losing 11 or more games, or man D which has been ranked in bottom 5 or bottom 10 from 03-11 and recently couldn’t force a punt against a norv lead team which had nothing to play for in must win game
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Actually the Norv-led team had the same thing that the 99 Raiders & 2011 Chiefs did in their final game which was to keep a division rival from going to the playoffs. I think that’s enough motivation for an opponent don’t you? Or are you one of these Al-hating geeks that has never experienced athletic competition.
Thanks for reminding of the 7 losing seasons. What were the previous 40 like & his last 2 on earth ya sniveling incessant whining baby?
January 13th, 2013 at 11:03 am
Palmer could have def used Miller, Myers is just a good back up
January 13th, 2013 at 11:03 am
Zach Miller showing skills
January 13th, 2013 at 11:04 am
Gotta hand it to Cable. Beautiful pass pro.
January 13th, 2013 at 11:05 am
3rd and 1 runs.
Seattle was worse than us doing it.
January 13th, 2013 at 11:06 am
I want a “wave of the future” QB to make it to the SB. I want Seattle to win today.
Go Seattle?
January 13th, 2013 at 11:06 am
Falcons, baby!!!
January 13th, 2013 at 11:07 am
Can’t believe this sht! WTF are these guys doing?
January 13th, 2013 at 11:08 am
Pete carrol already panicking. No need to go for it. Then instead of putting it one ur two best players hands, u give it to the slow fullback. Laughable.
January 13th, 2013 at 11:08 am
The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 11:02 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 9:56 am
Raider O Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 9:54 am
What’s you fascination with Al
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
You mean the HOF owner/ GM who is the ultimate Raider?
You People….
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Its okay to like some one but saying AL was this n that , when recently he just set an nfl record for 7 straight seasons losing 11 or more games, or man D which has been ranked in bottom 5 or bottom 10 from 03-11 and recently couldn’t force a punt against a norv lead team which had nothing to play for in must win game
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Actually the Norv-led team had the same thing that the 99 Raiders & 2011 Chiefs did in their final game which was to keep a division rival from going to the playoffs. I think that’s enough motivation for an opponent don’t you? Or are you one of these Al-hating geeks that has never experienced athletic competition.
Thanks for reminding of the 7 losing seasons. What were the previous 40 like & his last 2 on earth ya sniveling incessant whining baby?
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it makes no sense to still hope on Al train which wasn’t doing much in last 10 or so years but call for Regs and DA’s head in a season they weren’t even given some money to grab FA or even a draft pick in first 2 rounds, calling out Zone D scheme in a season they lost their best pass rusher, and had just scrubs to play with but support a freakin man D which couldn’t force i punt in must win game, isn’t that freakin ridiculous, and judging by your post, i know it’s you al_the_troll, there’s a no reason to come back at me like that if ur not him
January 13th, 2013 at 11:09 am
hop*
January 13th, 2013 at 11:09 am
I have no idea why so many teams are running the ball on 3rd and 1.
Seattle converted 41% of them this year, 20th in the eNFL. Way less than 50%.
Meanwhile you have a QB who complete 60% of his passes.
Which seems the more likely scenario?
I just don’t get it.
January 13th, 2013 at 11:10 am
West coast teams travelling to the east coast most often don’t play as well.
January 13th, 2013 at 11:11 am
“Reg or DA should call up Mcfadden and ask him to grow hair n get braids or don’t ever step in their faculty again”
I agree
Nice throw by Matt Ryan BTW
January 13th, 2013 at 11:11 am
Seattle getting gashed. Could be a long day for them
January 13th, 2013 at 11:11 am
World class throw!!!
Over at halftime.
KoolKell, I think I am done with my continuing Ed.
January 13th, 2013 at 11:11 am
Ok I’m convinced Atl would beat the whiners
January 13th, 2013 at 11:13 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 10:53 am
Boss, season ticket Donkey holder, is emailing me saying that Peyton may retire, or at least that is the talk this morning in Denver.
Arm is shot, he didn’t attempt any passes 20 yards almost the whole game.
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Denver went all in for this season. What I can’t figure out is how they stockpiled all that talent, and add Manning as well, and STILL are 18 mill. UNDER the cap?
I guess I COULD figure it out, I just don’t feel like breaking down their entire roster right now.
January 13th, 2013 at 11:13 am
Mcfadden needs to come to camp with braided hair that we can see out of the back of his helmet showing us that he cares enough to better his game!
January 13th, 2013 at 11:13 am
Charlie Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 1:10 pm
Riff
Bovine Droppings!
Branch had great individual stats as well.
But as with any theory or opinion, you have to back it up with evidence, and to do that I am going to compare Cliff Branch’s career with that of two receivers from the same era who are already in the hall of fame, Lynn Swann and Bob Hayes.
Bob Hayes years 11 receptions 371 Yards 7414 Avg 20.0 TD 68 Rings 2
Lynn Swann Years 9 receptions 336 Yards 5462 AVG 16.3 TD 51 Rings 4
Cliff Branch Years 13 Rec 501 Yards 8685 Avg 17.3 TD 67 Rings 3
Now any reasonably objective person looking at these statistics could only conclude that these three players are clearly in very much the same group, and if you had to pick one player to be excluded, it would be Hayes, not Branch. Cliff played longer, had considerably more receptions than either, more yards than either, better yards per reception than Swann, and had just one touchdown less than Hayes.
Just the facts man.
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The facts are, there are a ton of players in the HOF that dont deserve to be. And to use them as proof that even more should be added is idiotic.
It’s the Hall of Fame. As in, hall of “Great”. Not hall of “very good”.
Lynn Swann, like many Steelers, have no business in the HOF. They were great teams. That is why they won so many SuperBowls. But that doesnt mean they were HOF’ers.
Lynn Swann is no Jerry Rice.
Do I believe Branch belongs in? Yep. Same with Freddy B.
IMO, these are the only WRs that belong in the HOF:
Don Hutson
Fred Biletnikof
Cliff Branch
Jerry Rice
Steve Largent
Cris Carter
Michael Irvin
Tim Brown
Randy Moss
Terrell Owens
Marvin Harrison
Everybody on this list “belongs” and doesnt water it down in any way. All of their stats and accomplishments and abilities stand on their own without the need to throw team accomplishments into the discussion.
I may be missing a player or two. Please state your case if you think so. But just remember, as the great Joe Morgan always says, “If there is any doubt, there is no doubt, they are not HOFers”.
January 13th, 2013 at 11:13 am
One of the semi’s said there’d be one blowout this weekend and picked Atl. I’m sure we’ll hear from him.
January 13th, 2013 at 11:13 am
Legacy game for Pete Carroll, the Seahawks, and Russell Wilson. Lol.
January 13th, 2013 at 11:14 am
mcfadden20. Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 11:11 am
Ok I’m convinced Atl would beat the whiners
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I think we’ll find out next week.
January 13th, 2013 at 11:14 am
DJ Johnny Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 11:13 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 10:53 am
Boss, season ticket Donkey holder, is emailing me saying that Peyton may retire, or at least that is the talk this morning in Denver.
Arm is shot, he didn’t attempt any passes 20 yards almost the whole game.
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Denver went all in for this season. What I can’t figure out is how they stockpiled all that talent, and add Manning as well, and STILL are 18 mill. UNDER the cap?
I guess I COULD figure it out, I just don’t feel like breaking down their entire roster right now.
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They didn’t stockpile any talent, they had P Manning and just impressive double digit sack guys on D, V Miller still on his rookie contract
January 13th, 2013 at 11:15 am
Johnny,
They gave him like a $20 million dollar signing bonus, which spreads over his 5 year contract.
If they cut him, they would have a massive cap hit.
But if he retires………….
January 13th, 2013 at 11:15 am
dr_robert Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 11:13 am
Legacy game for Pete Carroll, the Seahawks, and Russell Wilson. Lol.
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This IS the game that will define Russell Wilson as a human being.
LEGACY doesn’t even scratch the surface.
January 13th, 2013 at 11:16 am
DJ Johnny Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 11:14 am
mcfadden20. Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 11:11 am
Ok I’m convinced Atl would beat the whiners
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I think we’ll find out next week.
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Yeah, but i feel much better with Atl at home and whiners traveling east, then Seattle making 3 road trip in 3rd week in a row without any rest
January 13th, 2013 at 11:17 am
1372,
Ahhhhh. I see.
We know they won’t cut him.
January 13th, 2013 at 11:18 am
Here’s my take on the HOF. Only the ELITE.
THE REAL HALL OF FAME (not the hall of very good)
GM
Al Davis
Rooneys
Ron Wolf
COACH
Sid Gilman
John Madden
Chuck Knoll
Tom Landry
Don Coryell
Buddy Ryan
Bill Parcells
Bill Walsh
Joe Gibbs
Bill Bellicheat
Dick LeBeau
QB
Johnny Unitas
Joe Namath
Fran Tarkenton
Dan Fouts
John Elway
Dan Marino
Joe Montana
Warren Moon
Steve Young
Brett Farve
Troy Aikman
Kurt Warner
Peyton Manning
RB
Jim Brown
Earl Campbell
OJ Simpson
Gale Sayers
Marcus Allen
Walter Payton
Roger Craig
Eric Dickerson
Barry Sanders
Emmit Smith
LaDanian Tomlison
Marshal Faulk
Adrian Petersen
FB
Larry Csonka
Redskin guy
WR
Don Hutson
Fred Biletnikof
Cliff Branch
Jerry Rice
Steve Largent
Cris Carter
Michael Irvin
Tim Brown
Randy Moss
Terrell Owens
Marvin Harrison
TE
Dave Casper
Kellen Winslow
Shannon Sharpe
Tony Gonzalez
OL
Jim Otto
Art Shell
Gene Upshaw
Dan Dierdorf
Mike Webster
John Hannah
Bruce Matthews
Anthony Munoz
Larry Allen
Steve Wisniewski
Randle McDaniel
Willie Roaf
Orlando Pace
Jonathan Ogden
K
George Blanda
Morten Anderson
Adam Vinatieri
P
Ray Guy
Shane Lechler
ST
Steve Tasker
KR/PR
Devin Hester
DT
Merlin Olsen
Alan Page
Warren Sapp
DE
Deacon Jones
Jack Youngblood
Joe Greene
Carl Eller
Richard Dent
Reggie White
Bruce Smith
Howie Long
Jason Taylor
Michael Strahan
LB
Dick Butkus
Jack Lambert
Jack Ham
Ted Hendricks
Lawrence Taylor
Mike Singletary
Junior Seau
Derrick Thomas
Ray Lewis
S
Jack Tatum
Ronnie Lott
Ed Reed
CB
Willie Brown
Mike Haynes
Dick Lane
Mel Blount
Rod Woodson
Deion Sanders
January 13th, 2013 at 11:19 am
Seattle seems deflated , they’re done
January 13th, 2013 at 11:20 am
Atlanta is stopping Lynch and destroying Seattles defense. Next up: wilson gets hurt
January 13th, 2013 at 11:20 am
Raiders may have had it bad, but the NY Jets appear to have it worse:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/13/glazer-jets-cant-give-g-m-position-away/
January 13th, 2013 at 11:20 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 10:50 am
Quizz Rodgers was so awesome in college, amazing he fell to whatever round he got drafted in.
He did everything at Oregon State.
+++++++++
I wanted the Raids to draft this kid. We took Taiwan Jones in the 4th. Quizz went in the 5th, a couple of picks before DMO.
January 13th, 2013 at 11:21 am
Same 2 guys makeing excuses for Denise and bottom lip.Same 2 guys who also predicted playoffs this year.
January 13th, 2013 at 11:22 am
Zone blocking teams dropping like fly’s.
January 13th, 2013 at 11:22 am
HOF IS a joke, they should re-do it , Lynn Swann over Cliff Branch, many of our guys would have been in it, if they played for another team, what a bunch of BS
January 13th, 2013 at 11:22 am
Oakfshow
Hope your right. But both Patriots and Texans run ZBS, one of them has to win.
January 13th, 2013 at 11:23 am
Read option, down 20 on the road with two minutes in the half??
January 13th, 2013 at 11:23 am
oakfshow Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 11:21 am
Same 2 guys makeing excuses for Denise and bottom lip.Same 2 guys who also predicted playoffs this year.
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Well well look who we have in here, just woke up troll?
January 13th, 2013 at 11:23 am
RaiderDebo Says:
Can’t believe this sht! WTF are these guys doing?
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Props, debo, for hanging tough and being willing to take your lumps,if necessary. Miss Tick always needed a day or two to figure out his spin, win or lose.
January 13th, 2013 at 11:24 am
Oh no. There’s a retard in the room trying to hump doorknobs. U know who u are jokefoshow.
January 13th, 2013 at 11:24 am
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8840203/ray-anderson-oakland-raiders-discuss-job-sources
Interesting
January 13th, 2013 at 11:24 am
1384.jackasspuria Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 11:22 am
Oakfshow
Hope your right. But both Patriots and Texans run ZBS, one of them has to win.
Patriots do not run a zone scheme and never has.
January 13th, 2013 at 11:25 am
Looks like Mark has lost all confidence in Reggie to make sound football decisions.
January 13th, 2013 at 11:26 am
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 11:23 am
RaiderDebo Says:
Can’t believe this sht! WTF are these guys doing?
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Props, debo, for hanging tough and being willing to take your lumps,if necessary. Miss Tick always needed a day or two to figure out his spin, win or lose.
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LMFAO , no he always had something to do when Raiders won in 4 weeks , but he was free every single week Raiders lost, that’s 12 weeks, what a co-incidence LMFAO
January 13th, 2013 at 11:26 am
1386.mcfadden20. Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 11:23 am
oakfshow Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 11:21 am
Same 2 guys makeing excuses for Denise and bottom lip.Same 2 guys who also predicted playoffs this year.
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Well well look who we have in here, just woke up troll?
============================================== Speaking of a playoff predictor. Moron will never learn to just shut up.
January 13th, 2013 at 11:27 am
RNF saying Mike Murlarkey will get an interview…would like this one.
January 13th, 2013 at 11:28 am
boss01 Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 11:25 am
Looks like Mark has lost all confidence in Reggie to make sound football decisions.
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He’s just trying to get NFL guys who have connection with the NFL so the refs would ease up on us
January 13th, 2013 at 11:28 am
1388.dr_robert Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 11:24 am
Oh no. There’s a retard in the room trying to hump doorknobs. U know who u are jokefoshow.
Hey the so called millionair from UM Sunnyvale must be to bored with all his money today. Faj.
January 13th, 2013 at 11:28 am
Probably should add debartalo..
January 13th, 2013 at 11:29 am
Oakfshow
New England beat writers have even said the Patriots “run a hybrid man/zone blocking scheme”.
The Pats are not a strict ZBS team.
When team is in the red zone, they go to Power O blocking scheme.
January 13th, 2013 at 11:30 am
oakfshow Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 11:26 am
1386.mcfadden20. Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 11:23 am
oakfshow Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 11:21 am
Same 2 guys makeing excuses for Denise and bottom lip.Same 2 guys who also predicted playoffs this year.
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Well well look who we have in here, just woke up troll?
============================================== Speaking of a playoff predictor. Moron will never learn to just shut up.
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Uh what a comeback , lol you’re reaching today, did you take your vitamins yet?
January 13th, 2013 at 11:30 am
Boss01
Mark Davis is to blame for this mess.
January 13th, 2013 at 11:30 am
Wave of the future!!!
January 13th, 2013 at 11:31 am
Sweet. Seattle spazzing
January 13th, 2013 at 11:31 am
Heck, there are fans and teams that deserve to be in the HOF more than a lot of the players….
TEAMS
Bears – Monsters of Midway
Bills – Electric Company
Broncos – Orange Crush
Chargers – Air Coryell Super Chargers
Cowboys – Doomsday Defense
Dolphins – No Name Defense, Killer B’s
Jets – Fireman Ed
Rams – Fearsome Foursome
Rams – Greatest Show on Turf
Redskins – Hogs
Saints – Dome Patrol
Steelers – Steel Curtain
Vikings – Purple People Eaters
FANS
Broncos – Orange Crush
Browns – Dog Pound
Chiefs – Sea of Red
Eagles – 700 Level / Boo Birds
Packers – Cheese Heads
Raiders – Black Hole / Raider Nation
Redskins – Hogettes
Saints – Who Dat
Seahawks – 12th Man
Steelers – Terrible Towel
January 13th, 2013 at 11:31 am
Reggie = retard.Denise = tranny.
January 13th, 2013 at 11:31 am
jackasspuria Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 11:29 am
Oakfshow
New England beat writers have even said the Patriots “run a hybrid man/zone blocking scheme”.
The Pats are not a strict ZBS team.
When team is in the red zone, they go to Power O blocking scheme.
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You’re talking with a troll , you expect him to man up and admit he was wrong?
January 13th, 2013 at 11:31 am
Oakfshow
Mark = King of Retard.
January 13th, 2013 at 11:32 am
Does Sea start with ball 2nd half?
January 13th, 2013 at 11:32 am
New England run a hybrid stretch/ZBS, Josh McDaniel talked about the switch all offseason.
http://nflsfuture.com/2012/03/28/team-by-team-offensivedefensive-schemes/
January 13th, 2013 at 11:32 am
Carroll…that was pretty sloppy.
January 13th, 2013 at 11:33 am
Seachickens making bad decisions..
January 13th, 2013 at 11:33 am
1405.mcfadden20. Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 11:31 am
jackasspuria Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 11:29 am
Oakfshow
New England beat writers have even said the Patriots “run a hybrid man/zone blocking scheme”.
The Pats are not a strict ZBS team.
When team is in the red zone, they go to Power O blocking scheme.
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You’re talking with a troll , you expect him to man up and admit he was wrong?
Comeing from a moron who predicted playoffs and a known Knapp lover.Yea we care what you say idiot.
January 13th, 2013 at 11:33 am
Mcfadden20
I hear ya.
I’m interested to see if the Patriots run the Texans’ plays today like they did in their regular season matchup a few weeks ago.
I remember watching that game and those play-action bombs Brady threw and thinking, holy crap, that’s a Houston Texans special.
Not surprising considering beat writers reported the team ran the Texans’ ZBS play action plays in practice to learn how to counter it.
January 13th, 2013 at 11:34 am
Carrol need to spit that gum out and stop chewing it like a mule
January 13th, 2013 at 11:34 am
Zoneblocking sucks.Hybrid zoneblocking.Now ive heard everything.
January 13th, 2013 at 11:34 am
jackasspuria Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 11:30 am
Boss01
Mark Davis is to blame for this mess.
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His senile pops is more to blame for this mess.
Reggie is sure hasnt been part of the solution so far.
January 13th, 2013 at 11:35 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 11:30 am
Wave of the future!!!
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funny how quite you were during yesterdays games, esp the 9er game…
January 13th, 2013 at 11:35 am
Wonder if Pete Carroll will still be smiling in the second half.
Dude was sporting an ear-to-ear grin despite trailing.
Even the analyst commented on it.
Said Pete’s “always a cool customer, no matter what.”
January 13th, 2013 at 11:36 am
oakfshow Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 11:33 am
1405.mcfadden20. Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 11:31 am
jackasspuria Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 11:29 am
Oakfshow
New England beat writers have even said the Patriots “run a hybrid man/zone blocking scheme”.
The Pats are not a strict ZBS team.
When team is in the red zone, they go to Power O blocking scheme.
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You’re talking with a troll , you expect him to man up and admit he was wrong?
Comeing from a moron who predicted playoffs and a known Knapp lover.Yea we care what you say idiot.
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LMFAO the idiot doesn’t get it, all fans of all 32 teams say their teams will make the playoffs , for no other reason than just drink kool for no reason, if i had to put money on it , i would have def not put big money on Raiders makin playoffs, n i never liked Knapp, thought it would be a good choice to wait n see till atleast week 6, but keep reaching back onto what all fans do in offseason, you really need ur meds today lOL
January 13th, 2013 at 11:37 am
Boss01
I’m probably assuming here, but, I don’t remember reading or hearing Mark Davis interviewing anyone other than Reggie McKenzie for the GM Job.
Sure, he got advice from Wolf and Madden, but, Mark green lighted the hire.
I’m just playing Devil’s Advocate really.
Everyone blames Reggie and DA.
But when it boils down to it, Mark is the man responsible. He started it with the hire of McKenzie.
I hope I’m wrong. I hope McKenzie can turn this thing around. DA as well.
But if they don’t, Mark is the reason.
January 13th, 2013 at 11:37 am
funny how quite you were during yesterdays games, esp the 9er game…
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I wasn’t home.
I came in this morning and fessed up to the whiff.
SF is going to lose next week.
January 13th, 2013 at 11:38 am
Im so sick of all these well run teams..
January 13th, 2013 at 11:38 am
oakfshow Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 11:34 am
Zoneblocking sucks.Hybrid zoneblocking.Now ive heard everything.
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You’re stupid troll , you have no knowledge of NFL, you only live for irritating people cuz you have no life, oh please come with playoffs come back , stupid troll
January 13th, 2013 at 11:40 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 11:37 am
funny how quite you were during yesterdays games, esp the 9er game…
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I wasn’t home.
I came in this morning and fessed up to the whiff.
SF is going to lose next week.
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Based on what? Sea v ATL game is not over yet, not by a long shot.
You have both teams beating the 9ers?
January 13th, 2013 at 11:41 am
Marks Hair
Keep an eye on the NY Jets.
Whomever they hire for the GM job will have a mess on his hands probably worse than McKenzie’s.
Team is reportedly going to be in ’salary cap hell’ in the off season and no qualified GM past or present wants the job.
But, if the guy they hire navigates through that and the team is successful, said GM is a true miracle worker. ‘
The bright side?
If not, at least there is one team run worst than Oakland.
January 13th, 2013 at 11:41 am
Anyone know much about this Sheldon Richardson in the draft?
Just saw a mock having him going #3 to us in the draft, saying he will be the talk of the combine.
January 13th, 2013 at 11:43 am
You have both teams beating the 9ers?
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I have Atlanta winning it all, been saying it before the playoffs started.
Best team in football, and don’t have to leave a dome from here on out.
QB-WR league, and they are loaded there.
January 13th, 2013 at 11:43 am
Just Fire Baby
Not much. He has talent but has some personality issues…
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/30/talented-but-troubled-sheldon-richardson-declares-for-nfl-draft/
One site said he’s Darrell Russell. All the talent but baggage too.
January 13th, 2013 at 11:44 am
OT, but does anyone know?
Watching ESPN, noticed this HUGE height differential between Tom Jackson and Ron Jaworski who were standing no more than a foot from one another, basically shoulder to shoulder.
Swear, it looked like an easy 7 inch difference. Looked up both: says Jackson played at 5′11″ and Jaworksi at 6′2″.
Anyone have better info than that. Jaworksi also looked a lot taller than whoever else was on the floor too, but can’t recall who it was. I remember when RJ played I didn’t think he looked all that tall.
January 13th, 2013 at 11:45 am
hello??
January 13th, 2013 at 11:46 am
I’ll pass:
Getty Images
Sheldon Richardson, a physically gifted defensive tackle who carries some off-field baggage and injury concerns, has declared his intention to leave Missouri early and enter the 2013 NFL draft.
The 6-foot-4, 295-pound Richardson definitely has NFL talent. He was a highly recruited prospect out of high school who had 18.5 tackles for loss in two seasons at Missouri, after starting his college career at the junior college level. But Richardson played through a shoulder injury in 2011 and had shoulder surgery early this year, which could raise a medical red flag, and he also was suspended for a game this season, reportedly for blowing off a team-issued punishment for skipping class. Richardson is also known for running his mouth, including saying before Missouri played Georgia that Georgia plays “old-man football.” (Georgia then beat Missouri 41-20.)
Missouri coach Gary Pinkel said he supports Richardson’s decision to turn pro.
“I’ve always said that when guys have opportunities like these, if they’re ready to go, then they should go,” Pinkel said. “I have no doubt that Sheldon is ready to play in the NFL, and while we’d love to have him for another year, the important thing is that this is the right decision. It will be fun watching him play on Sundays.”
Richardson will be one of the most intriguing defensive line prospects in this year’s draft.
January 13th, 2013 at 11:46 am
Jofoshow is trolling
January 13th, 2013 at 11:47 am
I dont mind a little zone d or zone blocking.. but i hate it as our base.. hate it.
January 13th, 2013 at 11:47 am
Richardson is worth taking a chance on in later rounds, not in first 3 rounds
January 13th, 2013 at 11:47 am
Damn that sideline chicks neck was jacked up, she needs some spackle
January 13th, 2013 at 11:49 am
Mock had him going #3 to us, lol.
NFLfutures, which I don’t use much for mocks, but I like their write-ups on college prospects, very in-depth.
Said he will run a 4.7 forty and own the combine.
January 13th, 2013 at 11:49 am
Atlanta stopping run, bodes well for them stopping the whiners as well next year
January 13th, 2013 at 11:50 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 11:43 am
You have both teams beating the 9ers?
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I have Atlanta winning it all, been saying it before the playoffs started.
Best team in football, and don’t have to leave a dome from here on out.
QB-WR league, and they are loaded there.
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Stick around, watch the Sea goodnite Atl
January 13th, 2013 at 11:50 am
Atlanta has a defense that will keep Wilson and CK in the pocket. Not good news for SF!
January 13th, 2013 at 11:50 am
When they say we’ll take another bad egg like sheldon, its just the annual shìt on the raiders b.s.
January 13th, 2013 at 11:51 am
Very few DMC highlights this season, but, the one that sticks out the most to me was when he was running against these Atlanta Falcons.
The highlight I’m talking about is when McFadden trucked and absolutely destroyed a hard-charging Thomas DeCoud. Of course, the play was wiped out due to a holding penalty,
January 13th, 2013 at 11:52 am
Tate=ND baby!
January 13th, 2013 at 11:53 am
Marks Hair
I hear you.
There are very few mock drafts that don’t take a shot at the Raiders in their comments/picks.
January 13th, 2013 at 11:53 am
Mike Martz first moves:
- Convert Pryor to WR or some sort of weird H-Back
- Convince Reggie to not resign Myers since he has no clue what a TE is used for
- Ups the life insurance policy on CP, because his offenses historically get the QB killed
- Goes out and signs some interesting backup QB options of the same mold — quick thinking and reading pocket QBs with an accurate, quick release
- Has a really interesting long conversation about whether DMac is someone to restructure and keep long haul or not at the right price. He is an ideal fit for the system, with his blocking and receiving skills if they do get away from the ZBS
January 13th, 2013 at 11:53 am
jackasspuria Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 11:37 am
Boss01
I’m probably assuming here, but, I don’t remember reading or hearing Mark Davis interviewing anyone other than Reggie McKenzie for the GM Job.
Sure, he got advice from Wolf and Madden, but, Mark green lighted the hire.
I’m just playing Devil’s Advocate really.
Everyone blames Reggie and DA.
But when it boils down to it, Mark is the man responsible. He started it with the hire of McKenzie.
I hope I’m wrong. I hope McKenzie can turn this thing around. DA as well.
But if they don’t, Mark is the reason.
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He’s a rookie owner can’t expect much from him, this is why he wants to hire a VP of Football operations, wants even less responsibility which is a huge plus, but the mess was already there before he took over.
January 13th, 2013 at 11:53 am
jackasspuria Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 11:51 am
Very few DMC highlights this season, but, the one that sticks out the most to me was when he was running against these Atlanta Falcons.
The highlight I’m talking about is when McFadden trucked and absolutely destroyed a hard-charging Thomas DeCoud. Of course, the play was wiped out due to a holding penalty,
-A lot of big plays got wiped out because of penalties in that game, we should have beaten them
January 13th, 2013 at 11:54 am
Lets make agame of it seattle..
January 13th, 2013 at 11:54 am
Boss01
Devil’s Advocate here again….
Reggie McKenzie is a rookie GM and Dennis Allen is a rookie HC, can’t expect much from them?
January 13th, 2013 at 11:56 am
I take the Ray Anderson hiring as Mark’s call to remove HIMSELF further from decisions.
Mark now is Reggie’s boss, Anderson would replace Mark in that role.
At least that’s the way I read it.
January 13th, 2013 at 11:57 am
Just Fire Baby
That’s the way I see it too, if Anderson comes aboard.
Davis admitted he wasn’t a ‘football guy’ so restructuring the organization power structure with ‘football guys’ is the way to go.
Still, something inside me makes it hard for me to believe Mark Davis isn’t a football guy.
I mean, his father was a football guy, you’d think some of it would rub off on the kid, no?
January 13th, 2013 at 11:57 am
You can expect some things from rookie guys, but they should also be given a fair chance as other 31 GMs and coaches, like have a decent salary cap space to bring in big FA names and have draft picks to bring in their future Raiders, We could have had 4-5 Legit starters if we had first 2 round picks, had decent amount of salary cap space
January 13th, 2013 at 11:59 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 11:56 am
I take the Ray Anderson hiring as Mark’s call to remove HIMSELF further from decisions.
Mark now is Reggie’s boss, Anderson would replace Mark in that role.
At least that’s the way I read it.
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I didn’t see that but just running a search, they ARE talking about it.
That’s actually big fuk’n news!
January 13th, 2013 at 11:59 am
Chris Mortensen @mortreport
Oakland Raiders have had exploratory talks with Ray Anderson, NFL Sr. VP/Football Operations about high-level executive role.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:00 pm
Did you guys just see what mcfaddens hit on decoud did to his head?
January 13th, 2013 at 12:01 pm
Seattle miss Clemons pass rush presence
January 13th, 2013 at 12:02 pm
beach Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 11:50 am
Atlanta has a defense that will keep Wilson and CK in the pocket. Not good news for SF!
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Was just having this discussion with my son. It’s not that hard to deal with this wave of QBs if you just take away their run options. They don’t have the pure passing skills to beat you in that mode, it’s their threat to run that keeps you off balance and puts you into compromised coverages that get people wide open.
They showed a good highlight of the LB staying home on a Lynch run where he let Lynch run past him and instead stayed locked on Wilson until he was sure the ball was out of his hands. Only then did he take off and provide backside support on the running play — where he caught Lynch and forced the fumble. If Wilson keeps the ball in that situation for either a run or pass he has an LB right there reading him and waiting for it.
Atlanta is the right type of team to beat SF. They can run the ball effectively, which all the teams that beat SF did (and GB could not) and they have a good disciplined defense that can handle their gimmicky college offense (that GB does not). Then they have the added bonus of getting a practice game in against Wilson and the Seattle, that run a better version of a similar offense and that have a defense of the same caliber. You couldn’t pick a better option in the entire league for that sort of practice.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:02 pm
Dakota Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 12:00 pm
Did you guys just see what mcfaddens hit on decoud did to his head?
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was that spider web?
January 13th, 2013 at 12:03 pm
Seahawks vaunted defense is being shredded by Matty ICE!!!
January 13th, 2013 at 12:03 pm
Meyers sucks.. hes a slow wr.. dhb is 10x the blocker meyers is.. we need a new starting te.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:04 pm
What possessed bill parcels and the dolphins to pass on Matt Ryan in 2008? That is the kind of decision that can make or break a franchise for a decade.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:04 pm
Raider Riff Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 11:31 am
Heck, there are fans and teams that deserve to be in the HOF more than a lot of the players….
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Were the Raiders and the Black Hole assumed, or don’t belong on your list?
January 13th, 2013 at 12:05 pm
This is what happens when a QB has receivers that can actually catch the ball.
Hopefully we can get one or two of those before Palmer hangs ‘em up.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:06 pm
jackasspuria Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 11:54 am
Boss01
Devil’s Advocate here again….
Reggie McKenzie is a rookie GM and Dennis Allen is a rookie HC, can’t expect much from them?
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I didn’t expect them to set the world on fire to be honest.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:06 pm
TOUCHDOWN FALCONS! GOOD NIGHT, RUSSELL WILSON. YOUR SEASON IS OVER!
January 13th, 2013 at 12:07 pm
Nice shovel pass!
I remember Gannon and Garner running that thing to perfection!
January 13th, 2013 at 12:08 pm
Boss01
Neither did I.
Hopefully there is progress this offseason.
Interested to see what direction McKenzie takes the Raiders in the draft.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:09 pm
If we sign martz… and luke j is there at pick 3, we should take him.. that offense could do some big things..
January 13th, 2013 at 12:09 pm
By Chris Mortensen | ESPN
AFC West blog
ESPN.com’s Bill Williamson writes about all things AFC West in his division blog.
• Blog network: NFL Nation
The Oakland Raiders have held exploratory talks with Ray Anderson, the NFL’s senior vice president of football operations, about a senior executive front office job as owner Mark Davis is contemplating a restructuring of the franchise’s organization, according to league sources.
The Raiders sought and received permission from the NFL to speak with Anderson, who joined the league as the football operations chief in 2006, sources said.
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That has to make McKenzie uneasy.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:10 pm
this would probably the first offseason real season Reg and DA, finally they could bring in big name free agents, finally they would have a pick in first 2 rounds, finally they have enough time to interview guys and decide who they want to bring in (instead of choose from trash heap (g knapp)
January 13th, 2013 at 12:12 pm
Who’s going to watch Arnold Schwartzneggers (SP?) new movie Last stand?
January 13th, 2013 at 12:12 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
The highlight I’m talking about is when McFadden trucked and absolutely destroyed a hard-charging Thomas DeCoud. Of course, the play was wiped out due to a holding penalty,
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Briesel, I assume.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:13 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 12:09 pm
By Chris Mortensen | ESPN
AFC West blog
ESPN.com’s Bill Williamson writes about all things AFC West in his division blog.
• Blog network: NFL Nation
The Oakland Raiders have held exploratory talks with Ray Anderson, the NFL’s senior vice president of football operations, about a senior executive front office job as owner Mark Davis is contemplating a restructuring of the franchise’s organization, according to league sources.
The Raiders sought and received permission from the NFL to speak with Anderson, who joined the league as the football operations chief in 2006, sources said.
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That has to make McKenzie uneasy.
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Maybe the new president of football operations wants “his guy” as GM?
January 13th, 2013 at 12:13 pm
1467.ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 12:09 pm
By Chris Mortensen | ESPN
AFC West blog
ESPN.com’s Bill Williamson writes about all things AFC West in his division blog.
• Blog network: NFL Nation
The Oakland Raiders have held exploratory talks with Ray Anderson, the NFL’s senior vice president of football operations, about a senior executive front office job as owner Mark Davis is contemplating a restructuring of the franchise’s organization, according to league sources.
The Raiders sought and received permission from the NFL to speak with Anderson, who joined the league as the football operations chief in 2006, sources said.
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That has to make McKenzie uneasy.
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Why? A good many teams in the NFL have a president or director of football operations and a GM as well.
One more step in the direction of normalcy and relevance, in my opinion. I doubt McKenzie is sweating this one bit.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:13 pm
Quick, someone email cord on the interview with Anderson!
January 13th, 2013 at 12:13 pm
That shovel pass to Garner worked awesomely for years.
We need that back in the playbook.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:13 pm
Sorry, cork.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:13 pm
Agreed mcF. Though last years results are not encouraging
January 13th, 2013 at 12:14 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist
I believe it was Carlisle. Play went to left side and I remember Carlisle holding his arms up in the “what, that was called on me” gesture.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:14 pm
Seriously Falcons would have advantage over Whiners, similar O as whiners they are facing in Seattle, Seattle’s D is just as good as whiners, and they are raping it , so Atlanta all the way maybe against Houston
January 13th, 2013 at 12:16 pm
Wasnt martz availible last yr when da took his buddy krapp?
January 13th, 2013 at 12:16 pm
Anderson played in the NFL, he was an NFL agent, he’s worked with the NFLPA and now he’s worked with the league. He’s well-connected and obviously has management skills, since he runs football operations for the entire league.
As LaCanfora points out, Anderson could potentially become the first African American team president in NFL history and, as a “historian of the game,” that’s likely something that would intrigue him.
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Maybe hiring Anderson will call the refs off.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:17 pm
That Ray Anderson news is about two weeks old. Or is there some new development?
January 13th, 2013 at 12:17 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 12:12 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
The highlight I’m talking about is when McFadden trucked and absolutely destroyed a hard-charging Thomas DeCoud. Of course, the play was wiped out due to a holding penalty,
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Briesel, I assume.
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I remember, Carlisle, Briesel and Smith(twice or 3 times) were called for holdings, a few of them were just bs calls when we were moving the ball well, just refs doing what they do best, throwing flags on Raiders based on their reputation
January 13th, 2013 at 12:17 pm
I guess it depends on who is conducting the interview.
If Mark and Ray are in the room by themselves, then yeah, McKenzie SHOULD BE a bit uneasy about that.
If Reggie is in the room, then no need to worry for awhile.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:17 pm
Ray Anderson on the field now with Punt Pass Kick winners.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:18 pm
That’s Ray Anderson right there
January 13th, 2013 at 12:18 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 12:17 pm
That Ray Anderson news is about two weeks old. Or is there some new development?
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I think Marc finally interviewed him. I could be wrong though.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:19 pm
Albuquerque represented!!!!
January 13th, 2013 at 12:19 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 11:56 am
I take the Ray Anderson hiring as Mark’s call to remove HIMSELF further from decisions.
Mark now is Reggie’s boss, Anderson would replace Mark in that role.
At least that’s the way I read it.
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ET:
I’m going to agree with Vegas on this one,
January 13th, 2013 at 12:19 pm
Donkey fans are CRYIN!!! It feels so good to be able to walk into the office tomorrow and slap everyone around. What a choke job that was last night!!!
January 13th, 2013 at 12:20 pm
Marks hair Says:
Wasnt martz availible last yr when da took his buddy krapp?
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Like the way you worded that.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:20 pm
So our future team president is co-ordinating the punt, pass and kick meetings and messing with a mascot.
Sounds like a perfect fit!!!
January 13th, 2013 at 12:21 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 12:12 pm
Who’s going to watch Arnold Schwartzneggers (SP?) new movie Last stand?
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Look really bad….I might watch it instantly on netflix some day.
Went to Lincoln last night. Might win best picture, best director, best actor and best supporting actor.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:21 pm
morilla Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 12:16 pm
Anderson played in the NFL, he was an NFL agent, he’s worked with the NFLPA and now he’s worked with the league. He’s well-connected and obviously has management skills, since he runs football operations for the entire league.
As LaCanfora points out, Anderson could potentially become the first African American team president in NFL history and, as a “historian of the game,” that’s likely something that would intrigue him.
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Maybe hiring Anderson will call the refs off.
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It wouldn’t hurt right, connection with the NFL office and Mark is following in his fathers foot steps, breaking the race barriers
January 13th, 2013 at 12:21 pm
Stop Predicting Svht you suck at it!!!
mcfadden20. Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:06 pm
Whiners will go down n they will go down hard, I’m thinking GB win by atleast 3 TDS
-mcfadden20. Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 11:19 am
Seattle seems deflated , they’re done
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LMFAO TRUTH!!!
January 13th, 2013 at 12:23 pm
Denver Post’s Woody Paige is a cooq at times, but, he nailed it with this:
http://www.denverpost.com/paige/ci_22363612/woody-paige-john-fox-brings-broncos-their-knees
January 13th, 2013 at 12:24 pm
jesusraiderjim Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 12:21 pm
Stop Predicting Svht you suck at it!!!
mcfadden20. Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 6:06 pm
Whiners will go down n they will go down hard, I’m thinking GB win by atleast 3 TDS
-mcfadden20. Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 11:19 am
Seattle seems deflated , they’re done
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LMFAO TRUTH!!!
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the muffed punt changed all that, our punt returned sneaked into a packers jersey and went out there
January 13th, 2013 at 12:24 pm
Dakota
Lincoln was great.
Surprisingly — or not surprisingly depending on your point of view — Django Unchained was just as good.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:24 pm
“One more step in the direction of normalcy and relevance, in my opinion.”
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That is surely big news all by itself.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:25 pm
The Raiders sought and received permission from the NFL to speak with Anderson, who joined the league as the football operations chief in 2006, sources said.
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WTF? I understand the rules regarding other teams employees, but the NFL?
January 13th, 2013 at 12:25 pm
Broncos Mike Mccoy to interview for Chargers job? what you guys think about this
January 13th, 2013 at 12:27 pm
Maybe the new president of football operations wants “his guy” as GM?
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Dakota:
Just as sure as the sun rises in the morning.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:29 pm
I saw django too… It was awesome, but kind of standard tarintino. Loved that German dude, same guy that stole the spotlight in inglorious basterds.
Awesome movie, but Lincoln was better.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:30 pm
1488.ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 12:19 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 11:56 am
I take the Ray Anderson hiring as Mark’s call to remove HIMSELF further from decisions.
Mark now is Reggie’s boss, Anderson would replace Mark in that role.
At least that’s the way I read it.
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ET:
I’m going to agree with Vegas on this one,
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Well, it’s more interesting that way. Reggie’s not going anywhere, though. He hasn’t really even had a chance to do his job yet, and I’m pretty sure Davis knows that.
More likely the team president will be doing things like trying to figure out how to get the Raiders out of the current financial crisis they’re in and figure out where they’ll be playing in future years. There’s good chance the Raiders are going to have to work closely with the league if they’re going to build a stronger organization for the future. Mark is the one without experience and probably realizes he’s out of his depth when it comes to moving the franchise itself forward. Anderson would seem like the perfect guy to handle those types of things. Sure, he’d be RM’s boss, but I stand by my observation that he’s not being looked at because of dissatisfaction with McKenzie.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:30 pm
Seattle showing some hope
January 13th, 2013 at 12:31 pm
I love Matt Ryan!!
January 13th, 2013 at 12:34 pm
Miller…
January 13th, 2013 at 12:35 pm
These seachickens have some serious fight in them.
Wilson seems at his best in these mad scramble like situations.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:35 pm
Wow. Pressure on Matty ICE now.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:35 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 12:25 pm
The Raiders sought and received permission from the NFL to speak with Anderson, who joined the league as the football operations chief in 2006, sources said.
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WTF? I understand the rules regarding other teams employees, but the NFL?
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He is still under contract with the NFL I am sure.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:35 pm
beach Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 12:06 pm
TOUCHDOWN FALCONS! GOOD NIGHT, RUSSELL WILSON. YOUR SEASON IS OVER!
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Care to revise that statement? lma
January 13th, 2013 at 12:35 pm
Atlanta playing prevent D? What the heck is this?
January 13th, 2013 at 12:36 pm
No, I think Atlanta will score a FG now and end it.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:36 pm
Aderson = league $$ for a stadium.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:36 pm
Russell Wilson is very good, I must admit.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:38 pm
Seattle has been moving the ball at will since their second drive of the game. Too many screwups or they could be blowing these guys out. Matt Ryan is shtting his pants!
January 13th, 2013 at 12:40 pm
Mike Smith doesn’t trust Matt Ryan! Took the safe route.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:41 pm
I swear, Atlanta is a cursed organization.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:41 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 12:20 pm
So our future team president is co-ordinating the punt, pass and kick meetings and messing with a mascot.
Sounds like a perfect fit!!!
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I was watching that and thinking “whats so special about this expensive suit wearing smiling fool”
January 13th, 2013 at 12:41 pm
Well, it’s more interesting that way. Reggie’s not going anywhere, though. He hasn’t really even had a chance to do his job yet, and I’m pretty sure Davis knows that.
More likely the team president will be doing things like trying to figure out how to get the Raiders out of the current financial crisis they’re in and figure out where they’ll be playing in future years. There’s good chance the Raiders are going to have to work closely with the league if they’re going to build a stronger organization for the future. Mark is the one without experience and probably realizes he’s out of his depth when it comes to moving the franchise itself forward. Anderson would seem like the perfect guy to handle those types of things. Sure, he’d be RM’s boss, but I stand by my observation that he’s not being looked at because of dissatisfaction with McKenzie.
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No, I don’t necessarily think that McKenzie is going anywhere.
However, the whole power situation changes.
Mark isn’t a hands on owner and so McKenzie has the power right now.
Right now, McKenzie is sitting in the catbird’s seat because Al JR doesn’t really know what he’s doing but McKenzie will lose that power with an Anderson hire who will effectively-as Vegas points out-become his boss.
As you also say, this is a good thing which is mirrored around the league.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:43 pm
This blog continues to be divided on racial lines. What a disgrace.
You can’t just sit back and enjoy the game. Have to root for Matt Ryan or Russell Wilson because of what color your skin is.
Bunch of schmucks in here. Enjoy the game and shut up.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:43 pm
I had a buddy who used to make great money just exploiting halftime spreads. He was telling me he was firing on the Seattle halftime line.
Like today Seattle was +3 for the game, so at the halftime bet, it was Seattle -9 for the 2nd half, and at 20-0, you still had +8 points on the originally line.
All about value.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:43 pm
This kid Wilson is amazing.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:44 pm
Wilson has amazing poise and really displays leadership.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:44 pm
RW can slide. He has played some baseball. He avoids hits better then most new wave qbs
January 13th, 2013 at 12:44 pm
England,
I misunderstood you. I thought you were intimating that McKenzie should be uncomfortable about this development.
My apologies.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:45 pm
I am rooting for Atlanta, because I think the 49ers cannot beat them. Russell Wilson is a very good rookie QB.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:45 pm
Anderson being an NFL executive going to the Raiders, would increase the likelihood of them moving to Los Angeles. That is my take on it.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:46 pm
If Seattle wins, I will root like heck for them next week. I just think the 49ers will have a harder time scoring in the dome.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:48 pm
I remember watching Russell play at Wisconsin. He was unfazed by pressure there, too. The kid has composure coming out of his pores.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:49 pm
<——- white boy rooting for RW
January 13th, 2013 at 12:50 pm
Dakota
If Christopher Waltz (German dude from Inglorious Bastards and Django Unchained) and Daniel Day-Lewis do a movie together, it would be epic.
Back to football… this game is getting very interesting.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:51 pm
DMac is incredibly fast and powerful. If he had half the elusiveness of some other backs in the league he’d be almost unstoppable.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:51 pm
Wilson, rgIII, kaepernick…they can throw the ball….that is what separates them from the pryor’s of the world.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:52 pm
Russell Wilson has stones. Impressed with this kid. Not playing like a rookie at all.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:52 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 12:40 pm
Mike Smith doesn’t trust Matt Ryan! Took the safe route.
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Truth…that last series proved All…
January 13th, 2013 at 12:52 pm
What a wobbler. Matt Ryan = no gun!
January 13th, 2013 at 12:52 pm
RW is good , i was wrong about him, sorry debo
January 13th, 2013 at 12:53 pm
Atlanta needs their crowd right now. This is their season.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:53 pm
Go Seattle!!
I want a “wave of the future” QB in the SB. I think that will make things more interesting.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:54 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 12:38 pm
Seattle has been moving the ball at will since their second drive of the game. Too many screwups or they could be blowing these guys out. Matt Ryan is shtting his pants!
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Truth…Lets see what this “ice” guy does after the Sea gose up by 1.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:54 pm
Has Tom cable lost weight?
January 13th, 2013 at 12:56 pm
The ICE guy will probably not see the ball again. This game will be decided in favor or against the Falcons D.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:56 pm
Raider O Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 12:53 pm
Go Seattle!!
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I don’t have a horse in this race where it comes to the QB, unlike many of the racists in here. What I can say is that Seattle fan is insufferable, so I prefer not. But I’d take them over SF any day. And if Wilson pulls it off, he deserves it.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:58 pm
Dakota Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 12:54 pm
Has Tom cable lost weight?
I think he has! Hey Dakota do these pants make my ass look too big? LOL
January 13th, 2013 at 12:58 pm
beach Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 12:03 pm
Seahawks vaunted defense is being shredded by Matty ICE!!!
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ROFLMAO…
January 13th, 2013 at 12:59 pm
Forget about Wilson being able to run/scramble, the important thing is that he can throw the ball.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:59 pm
RW!!!
January 13th, 2013 at 12:59 pm
beach Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 12:06 pm
TOUCHDOWN FALCONS! GOOD NIGHT, RUSSELL WILSON. YOUR SEASON IS OVER!
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ROFLMAO
January 13th, 2013 at 1:00 pm
Wilson is amazing.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:00 pm
WOW RW WOW RW WOW RW, AMAZING
January 13th, 2013 at 1:00 pm
Big PAT.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:01 pm
TP,
Watch & learn brother.
Go Buckeyes!
January 13th, 2013 at 1:01 pm
ATL and the Ice guy just sh11tttt their panys comp,ements of RWilson…
ROFLMAO
January 13th, 2013 at 1:01 pm
Impreesive win by Seattle and RW! Very very impressive.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:01 pm
Ball already crossed the plane before the fumble.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:01 pm
wow
January 13th, 2013 at 1:02 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 12:56 pm
Raider O Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 12:53 pm
Go Seattle!!
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I don’t have a horse in this race where it comes to the QB, unlike many of the racists in here. What I can say is that Seattle fan is insufferable, so I prefer not. But I’d take them over SF any day. And if Wilson pulls it off, he deserves it.
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I don’t notice skin color. All I know is the dude is #3 and plays QB for Seattle.
I hate Seattle. For many reasons. You old school Raider fans can relate.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:02 pm
lol falcons still suck
January 13th, 2013 at 1:02 pm
MAN RW is impressive
January 13th, 2013 at 1:02 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 1:00 pm
WOW RW WOW RW WOW RW, AMAZING
$$$$$$$$$$$$
I thought you said he was overrated?
January 13th, 2013 at 1:02 pm
RW is awesome!!! C’mon D. One time!!
January 13th, 2013 at 1:02 pm
Oh man!
If the Seahawks win, it’s going to set up a great showdown between two NFC West rivals in the championship game!
January 13th, 2013 at 1:03 pm
Atlanta is going to implode tonight. Torches and pitchforks. HC will lose his job.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:03 pm
Wow, Atlanta cannot hold a 20 point lead in the 4th.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:04 pm
Thec Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 1:55 pm
BALT
SF
SEA
HOU
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3 down…1 to go
January 13th, 2013 at 1:04 pm
DAMN, i wanted Atl to win so that whiners have to take a cross country trip, didn’t thought Seattle can go on the road 3rd/4th week in a row and beat whiners, but now i feel like they can hang with whiners
January 13th, 2013 at 1:04 pm
Tom Cable for president!!
January 13th, 2013 at 1:04 pm
1557.morilla Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 1:02 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 12:56 pm
Raider O Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 12:53 pm
Go Seattle!!
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I don’t have a horse in this race where it comes to the QB, unlike many of the racists in here. What I can say is that Seattle fan is insufferable, so I prefer not. But I’d take them over SF any day. And if Wilson pulls it off, he deserves it.
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I don’t notice skin color. All I know is the dude is #3 and plays QB for Seattle.
I hate Seattle. For many reasons. You old school Raider fans can relate.
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Yessir.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:04 pm
Back to back trips to the east coast, and 2 huge come from behind wins. Yes, this Seahawks team will be very confident next week.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:05 pm
Raider O Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 1:02 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 1:00 pm
WOW RW WOW RW WOW RW, AMAZING
$$$$$$$$$$$$
I thought you said he was overrated?
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BUt one can change some one’s mind, I wouldn’t hate like m1st1c lol
January 13th, 2013 at 1:05 pm
Looks like ATL is putting on a clinic on how it lose a football game.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:06 pm
Thec Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 11:50 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 11:43 am
You have both teams beating the 9ers?
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I have Atlanta winning it all, been saying it before the playoffs started.
Best team in football, and don’t have to leave a dome from here on out.
QB-WR league, and they are loaded there.
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Stick around, watch the Sea goodnite Atl
January 13th, 2013 at 1:06 pm
still 25 seconds left, if you guys watch denver game last night , you can’t feel comfy yet
January 13th, 2013 at 1:07 pm
wow , this is what Matt ryan did a few times this year,
January 13th, 2013 at 1:07 pm
against our beloved Raiders
January 13th, 2013 at 1:07 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
RW is good , i was wrong about him, sorry debo
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Miss Tick had me rooting against him sight unseen. Got on board last week.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:08 pm
wow , its all on the kicker now,
January 13th, 2013 at 1:08 pm
Man, I love this sport! This is great!
January 13th, 2013 at 1:08 pm
Sweep the leg.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:10 pm
Wow. Just wow. Awesome games this weekend.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:10 pm
Wow.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:10 pm
wow another gtreat game but iceing the kicker is a bad idea
January 13th, 2013 at 1:10 pm
wow, classic game
January 13th, 2013 at 1:10 pm
Mother FUKER!!!!!!
I really wantes Seattle to win!
January 13th, 2013 at 1:10 pm
Matty Ice did OK under pressure.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:10 pm
Nice comeback by Sea but they scored too quick
January 13th, 2013 at 1:11 pm
Icing the kicker hasn’t worked in 5 years
January 13th, 2013 at 1:11 pm
Was Carroll arguing with himself? Setting it up to blame someone else for calling a time out?
January 13th, 2013 at 1:11 pm
*wanted
January 13th, 2013 at 1:11 pm
Very Good game… Ice guy does what he has bewen doing all year.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:11 pm
Washington is a great return guy!
January 13th, 2013 at 1:12 pm
wow, now seattle wishes it hadn’t scored on that 1st down
January 13th, 2013 at 1:12 pm
should be 8 seconds on clock
January 13th, 2013 at 1:13 pm
Onsides? Someone is getting fired.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:13 pm
Seabass envy!
January 13th, 2013 at 1:13 pm
Go for the fg!
January 13th, 2013 at 1:14 pm
SEAHAWKS ARE CONFIDENT, BUT STILL THEIR SEASON IS OVER. ATLANTA GETS THE MONKEY OFF ITS BACK!
January 13th, 2013 at 1:14 pm
wow , talk about your heart getting ripped
January 13th, 2013 at 1:14 pm
Great game!
Too bad some of you racist morons were too busy promoting an agenda to enjoy the fking game.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:15 pm
Her neck is not as scary as her attack dog approach and that vicious bark
January 13th, 2013 at 1:15 pm
SF at Atl. Looks like a red team will be in the superbowl. Now if the pats can choke it too
January 13th, 2013 at 1:15 pm
WOW man, i would hate to be a Seahawks fan now, i feel for them , sports are just heartbreaking some times
January 13th, 2013 at 1:16 pm
Carroll walks off mumbling….time out…time out…
January 13th, 2013 at 1:16 pm
great game…
Ice guy is the wrong guy to leave time on the clock.
Wilson = ROY
January 13th, 2013 at 1:17 pm
I really enjoyed this game, kudos to rookie RW< big things are ahead of you, please take over NFC W for years to come
January 13th, 2013 at 1:17 pm
FAIL MARY KARMA.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:17 pm
morilla Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 1:11 pm
Was Carroll arguing with himself? Setting it up to blame someone else for calling a time out?
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Good question.
All I know is that it just decided the game.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:17 pm
Good game
January 13th, 2013 at 1:17 pm
Matt ICE did that like 4 times this year, Car, Raiders and another team and today
January 13th, 2013 at 1:18 pm
Atlanta has the advantage at the kicker position, but that’s about all I will say. Matty ICE needs a bigger pair of cajones in the 2nd half next week.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:18 pm
#6 seconds left and 2 TOs. A FG to win. Didn’t like that at all. Two fckn completions!! Ryan is in that position more than any QB I’ve ever seen.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:18 pm
Fk that former afc west rival!
January 13th, 2013 at 1:19 pm
when was the last time icing the kicker worked, but that’s always 20/20, you can always decide later on etc etc etc
January 13th, 2013 at 1:20 pm
Looks like the 49ers will be going to the super bowl.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:20 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 1:18 pm
#6 seconds left and 2 TOs. A FG to win. Didn’t like that at all. Two fckn completions!! Ryan is in that position more than any QB I’ve ever seen.
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He has lived off this all seasons.
This is a good trait to have, keep it close, somehow I will pull it out.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:20 pm
Dakota Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 1:18 pm
Fk that former afc west rival!
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Amen to that!!!
January 13th, 2013 at 1:20 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 1:18 pm
#6 seconds left and 2 TOs. A FG to win. Didn’t like that at all. Two fckn completions!! Ryan is in that position more than any QB I’ve ever see
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Exactly it was stupid, why try a sideline pass, but i thought they should have put 7 or 8 seconds on that board, Seattle wishes it had Seabass with them
January 13th, 2013 at 1:20 pm
1611.RaiderDebo Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 1:18 pm
#6 seconds left and 2 TOs. A FG to win. Didn’t like that at all. Two fckn completions!! Ryan is in that position more than any QB I’ve ever seen.
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Yeah, he sucks. He’s just lucky, right?
lol.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:20 pm
Seahawks and broncos went down. Good weekend so far
January 13th, 2013 at 1:21 pm
Nothing to be ashamed about Russell wislon .
Russell wilson/ Kaep are the truth! Kaep could have been a Raider.
Reggie and scouts spent the most time with Russell Wilson at the senior bowl last year but had no draft picks.
I want to see who Reggie drafts as Qb the next few years.
I’d rather have KAEP/ Russell over any qb right now not names Tom Brady/ Aaron rodgers.
I just want a qb who can move his feet in the pocket and extend plays. Aaron Rogdgers could do that. Believe me the game would have been over a while ago if Russell was a pure pocket passer, they were bringing it on him
January 13th, 2013 at 1:21 pm
Not really. 49ers won this weekend.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:22 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 1:17 pm
morilla Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 1:11 pm
Was Carroll arguing with himself? Setting it up to blame someone else for calling a time out?
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Good question.
All I know is that it just decided the game.
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Seriously, you see him tell the ref to call it. Then you see him screaming at said ref for something.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:23 pm
Zoneblocking at its finest.FAILURE as usuall.Time for Tom Cable to go home and slap the sht out of his wife.Zoneblocking sucks.Told ya.Watch Brady kill another zoneCOCKING team.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:24 pm
Both coaches kinda s8cked in late game management, Pete Carrol called timeout too quick and left a lot of time on the board, Atl also called a time out with about 13 seconds left to attempt a FG and then squib kick which almost allowed seattle to get in FG range to try a fg
January 13th, 2013 at 1:24 pm
Al Davis is the reason we have Pryor, Hue is the reason we do not have Wilson.
I’m telling you once again Pryor’s trade value significantly increased.
G. Smith will be drafted by either Kansas City or Jacksonville.
Arizona, Cleveland, Philadelphia, or Buffalo will give up their first for Pryor or trade up with us to draft either Joeckel or G. Smith if he is not drafted within the first two picks.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:24 pm
btw how do u think Falcons will match up with Whiners?
I wanted seattle to win.. but kinda glad the niners dont have a home field NFC title game
January 13th, 2013 at 1:25 pm
oakfshow Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 1:23 pm
Zoneblocking at its finest.FAILURE as usuall.Time for Tom Cable to go home and slap the sht out of his wife.Zoneblocking sucks.Told ya.Watch Brady kill another zoneCOCKING team.
– DUDE really? just stfu , this is what you waited for , had they won, we are sure you would have never came back and said anything , you’re the biggest troll on these boards, every one just ignore this loser
January 13th, 2013 at 1:26 pm
Al davis / Hue were set to take Kaepernick.
IT was the niners who traded up 10 spots with denver to take Kaepernick.
I cant blame Al. He wanted an Athletic Qb and he settled for Pryor in the 3rd round supplmental draft.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:26 pm
jesusraiderjim Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 1:01 pm
Impreesive win by Seattle and RW! Very very impressive.
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Ahem….
January 13th, 2013 at 1:26 pm
1617.mcfadden20. Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 1:20 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 1:18 pm
#6 seconds left and 2 TOs. A FG to win. Didn’t like that at all. Two fckn completions!! Ryan is in that position more than any QB I’ve ever see
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Exactly it was stupid, why try a sideline pass, but i thought they should have put 7 or 8 seconds on that board, Seattle wishes it had Seabass with them
================================================== Dont talk about stupid guy.Playoffs remember,4-12 remember.Shut up stupid as$!
January 13th, 2013 at 1:27 pm
Seriously, you see him tell the ref to call it. Then you see him screaming at said ref for something.
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I think he wanted to call it before the snap took place allowing the kicker to get a feel for the real kick. He was pizzed the refs let them snap and kick it after the whistle blew.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:27 pm
its sucks man. Raiders future would be bright with RusselL wilson. They would build the team around him.
Faack
January 13th, 2013 at 1:28 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 1:24 pm
btw how do u think Falcons will match up with Whiners?
I wanted seattle to win.. but kinda glad the niners dont have a home field NFC title game
– I didn’t wanted Seattle to win because whiners would have had home field advantage, but if the game was going to be in Seattle then i would have picked Seattle all the way, I think ATL can take em , they had good practice against a similar style qb, and put up 31 points against #1 ranked D
January 13th, 2013 at 1:28 pm
Who is the next Russell Wilson in the college or better?
Johnny Football? Bridgewater? any ppl like that in THIS DRAFT?
January 13th, 2013 at 1:29 pm
1627.mcfadden20. Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 1:25 pm
oakfshow Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 1:23 pm
Zoneblocking at its finest.FAILURE as usuall.Time for Tom Cable to go home and slap the sht out of his wife.Zoneblocking sucks.Told ya.Watch Brady kill another zoneCOCKING team.
– DUDE really? just stfu , this is what you waited for , had they won, we are sure you would have never came back and said anything , you’re the biggest troll on these boards, every one just ignore this loser
How about I slap the stupid off your face punk?
January 13th, 2013 at 1:29 pm
Pete Carroll and mike smith looking like missdick and beeech trying to out-idiot each other.
Bone headed 4th down dive and end of half sack come back to haunt Seattle.
Then smith does something ice only seen dicks on video games do. On side it with the game under wraps.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:29 pm
any ppl like that in THIS DRAFT?
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Not really
January 13th, 2013 at 1:30 pm
It’ll be very interesting to see what the better defensive coaches and teams devised to deal with the spread option qbs next year, after having a season to see it.
It will also be important that offenses in divisions that have opponents who run it learn what teams who’ve faced traditional drop back passers like Manning and Brady have learned: your offense has to get a lot of first downs and see to it the other guy stays off the field as much as possible.
In the end, football never really changes as much as we think it does–it’s still about keeping the ball as long as you can while still coming away with 7’s and having the defense that gets off the field as fast as possible.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:30 pm
Seattle players and coaches won’t sleep for weeks over this one. Worst 1st-half performance I’ve ever seen. Doomed them!
January 13th, 2013 at 1:30 pm
1633.mcfadden20. Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 1:28 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 1:24 pm
btw how do u think Falcons will match up with Whiners?
I wanted seattle to win.. but kinda glad the niners dont have a home field NFC title game
– I didn’t wanted Seattle to win because whiners would have had home field advantage, but if the game was going to be in Seattle then i would have picked Seattle all the way, I think ATL can take em , they had good practice against a similar style qb, and put up 31 points against #1 ranked D
Your full of sht dummy.Playoffs.OMFG!
January 13th, 2013 at 1:30 pm
JJ WATT IS currently the best DLINE guy on the field, D MOORE can become the same guy for us next year
January 13th, 2013 at 1:31 pm
All day–u do realize Matt Ryan and the falcons won the game right? Shouldn’t u be asking if there’s another Matt Ryan in the draft?
January 13th, 2013 at 1:31 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 1:30 pm
Seattle players and coaches won’t sleep for weeks over this one. Worst 1st-half performance I’ve ever seen. Doomed them!
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You don’t watch Raider games?
January 13th, 2013 at 1:31 pm
LOL Troll is being ignored and just losing it hhaha this is funny
January 13th, 2013 at 1:31 pm
Strahan is way off. Wilson used his arm mostly in this game. Atlanta did a good job of keeping him from running wild. CK is more of a runner than a passer.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:32 pm
Fuk the Pats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 13th, 2013 at 1:32 pm
shutdown Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 1:30 pm
It’ll be very interesting to see what the better defensive coaches and teams devised to deal with the spread option qbs next year, after having a season to see it.
It will also be important that offenses in divisions that have opponents who run it learn what teams who’ve faced traditional drop back passers like Manning and Brady have learned: your offense has to get a lot of first downs and see to it the other guy stays off the field as much as possible.
In the end, football never really changes as much as we think it does–it’s still about keeping the ball as long as you can while still coming away with 7’s and having the defense that gets off the field as fast as possible.
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Already had an offseason to deal with it seeing what Newton and Tebow did. What do you think of the results? Short answer is that they won’t figure it out. As long as you have a true dual threat, nothing they can do about it.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:33 pm
dr_robert Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 1:31 pm
All day–u do realize Matt Ryan and the falcons won the game right? Shouldn’t u be asking if there’s another Matt Ryan in the draft?
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YUP RYan did it against #1 D, Atlanta D is like bottom 15, but RW is impressive though , Seattle has exciting future with him and that D
January 13th, 2013 at 1:33 pm
1641.mcfadden20. Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 1:30 pm
JJ WATT IS currently the best DLINE guy on the field, D MOORE can become the same guy for us next year
Leave this board.Your an idiot.Nobody listenes to your bullsht.Playoffs.JEEEEEEEEZUS. SMART.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:33 pm
beach Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 1:31 pm
Strahan is way off. Wilson used his arm mostly in this game. Atlanta did a good job of keeping him from running wild. CK is more of a runner than a passer.
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Ummm, 60 yards and a TD is pretty good.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:33 pm
All day–u do realize Matt Ryan and the falcons won the game right? Shouldn’t u be asking if there’s another Matt Ryan in the draft?
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Not really.. Russell Wilson was amazing in the 4th quarter any other qb would have been taking sacks not getting out of hte pocket.
That prevent D prevented the win
January 13th, 2013 at 1:34 pm
What a great game, kudo’s to Seattle and their QB for fighting like that.
Matty Ice is something else at the end of games though. Leads the NFL in GW drives since he came into the league.
He did that exact same thing to us this year, and did it too Chicago his rookie year.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:34 pm
Matt Ryan was 0-3 in playoffs till today
Russell wilson was about to go 2-0
I’d take Russell over any qb not named Brady/ Rodgers
January 13th, 2013 at 1:34 pm
Lol. Jokefoshow apparently has two tricks. He goes on and on about mcf20 doing what most fans do–predict playoffs. Then he gets mad and makes Internet threats. Maybe the dumbest poster here. And that’s saying something.
Mcf20 owns u jokefoshow. He talks better football and makes better jokes. U think ur gonna do Internet drivebys. Hilarious.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:34 pm
The way Atlanta won today reminded me of old great Raider teams that blew a lead, then used the last minute to get to a range for George Blanda to win the game.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:35 pm
30 points on the #1 ranked defense in the NFL is pretty damn impressive.
They might score 40 next week.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:35 pm
oakfshow Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 1:33 pm
1641.mcfadden20. Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 1:30 pm
JJ WATT IS currently the best DLINE guy on the field, D MOORE can become the same guy for us next year
Leave this board.Your an idiot.Nobody listenes to your bullsht.Playoffs.JEEEEEEEEZUS. SMART.
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LMFAO , hahaha, the guy wouldn’t have showed up had Seattle won , n admitted ZBS can win in this league, it took a miracle by atlanta for u to show up and talk about it , what a phaggot
January 13th, 2013 at 1:36 pm
I love how a guy who predicted and argued that a 4-12 team goes to the playoffs call other people trolls. JerkyDick.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:37 pm
dr_robert Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 1:34 pm
Lol. Jokefoshow apparently has two tricks. He goes on and on about mcf20 doing what most fans do–predict playoffs. Then he gets mad and makes Internet threats. Maybe the dumbest poster here. And that’s saying something.
Mcf20 owns u jokefoshow. He talks better football and makes better jokes. U think ur gonna do Internet drivebys. Hilarious.
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well he’s always good for some laughs at his expense, lol he’s the biggest joke here since M1st1c
January 13th, 2013 at 1:38 pm
“I hate Seattle. For many reasons. You old school Raider fans can relate.”
Yep, Jim Zorn and Steve Largent.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:38 pm
LMFAO , hahaha, the guy wouldn’t have showed up had Seattle won , n admitted ZBS can win in this league, it took a miracle by atlanta for u to show up and talk about it , what a phaggot
Who won the game genious? Not the zoneblocking team.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:39 pm
All day–Wilson’s a player. But u speak of taking sacks in the 4th. How about to end the half? U show ur lack of objectivity when u would rather have the kid who played well but lost over the guy who also played well and won. And led his team down the field for the game winner with hardly any time at all.
It’s this kind of stuff that shows people’s real agenda. I’d be happy to take Wilson. I would trade Palmer for him immediately. But Ryan is the better qb at this time.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:39 pm
I’d take Russell Wilson over Matt Ryan any day of the week!
January 13th, 2013 at 1:39 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 1:33 pm
All day–u do realize Matt Ryan and the falcons won the game right? Shouldn’t u be asking if there’s another Matt Ryan in the draft?
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Not really.. Russell Wilson was amazing in the 4th quarter any other qb would have been taking sacks not getting out of hte pocket.
That prevent D prevented the win
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It wasn’t prevent, Seattle sent 5 or 6 guys at Matt Ryan on every single play, maybe they are probably scratching their heads and thinking maybe just maybe prevent would have worked there
January 13th, 2013 at 1:40 pm
covering the Senior Bowl said that Russell Wilson has spent most of his time with the Raiders…Apparently they really like him….”
This was about a year ago
January 13th, 2013 at 1:41 pm
1654.dr_robert Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 1:34 pm
Lol. Jokefoshow apparently has two tricks. He goes on and on about mcf20 doing what most fans do–predict playoffs. Then he gets mad and makes Internet threats. Maybe the dumbest poster here. And that’s saying something.
Mcf20 owns u jokefoshow. He talks better football and makes better jokes. U think ur gonna do Internet drivebys. Hilarious.
===================================================== Look how moron #1 and moron #2 team up now. The two biggest dumbas$es on this blog.Hillarious.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:41 pm
Jokefoshow just told someone he was dumb by calling them a “genious”. Use spell check dummy.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:41 pm
Doesn’t seem like you could wrong either way between Wilson and Ryan, but the league adapts and gets film on guys over time.
We will see if it slows down Wilson.
It hasn’t for Ryan.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:42 pm
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/nfl-rapidreports/21550674/jj-watt-spits-on-patriots-logo-in-gillette-stadium-prior-to-playoff-game
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Holy sht! Love it.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:42 pm
oakfshow Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 1:38 pm
LMFAO , hahaha, the guy wouldn’t have showed up had Seattle won , n admitted ZBS can win in this league, it took a miracle by atlanta for u to show up and talk about it , what a phaggot
Who won the game genious? Not the zoneblocking team.
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LOL but you obviously choked up when Seattle was on it’s way to a win, not until Atl came back did you felt better and came here to talk sh1t about ZBS lmao, ZBS didn’t fail they scored 3 in a row, they would have scored again had they had more time, just do us a favor , get out of here before you embarrass yourself even further
January 13th, 2013 at 1:42 pm
Debo–of course u would. He’s black. That’s what u care about like several other guys here. Pitiful.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:42 pm
People always just say it was a prevent at the end of games.
Seattle was blitzing, far from the prevent.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:43 pm
freakin dropped TD there, Houston would have been in nice 7-0 position
January 13th, 2013 at 1:43 pm
Pass on Martz. He needs a lot of talent on offense to succeed.
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who doesn’t, O?
is this gonna be your sales pitch to the guys applying for the OC gig?
“come to Oakland & make lemonade out of our lemons. you’ll be considered for HC jobs eventually!!” LOL
January 13th, 2013 at 1:44 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 1:41 pm
Doesn’t seem like you could wrong either way between Wilson and Ryan, but the league adapts and gets film on guys over time.
We will see if it slows down Wilson.
It hasn’t for Ryan.
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I’ll tip my cap to Ryan today. Makes good use of all the weapons he’s been given. I see big-time deficiences, but the monkey is off his back.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:44 pm
1664.mcfadden20. Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 1:39 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 1:33 pm
All day–u do realize Matt Ryan and the falcons won the game right? Shouldn’t u be asking if there’s another Matt Ryan in the draft?
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Not really.. Russell Wilson was amazing in the 4th quarter any other qb would have been taking sacks not getting out of hte pocket.
That prevent D prevented the win
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It wasn’t prevent, Seattle sent 5 or 6 guys at Matt Ryan on every single play, maybe they are probably scratching their heads and thinking maybe just maybe prevent would have worked there
Now you go from talking zoneblocking to talking defense.AAAAA HAAAAAAA. Clueless little fk stick.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:44 pm
dr_robert Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 1:42 pm
Debo–of course u would. He’s black. That’s what u care about like several other guys here. Pitiful.
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Whatever.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:45 pm
All day–Wilson’s a player. But u speak of taking sacks in the 4th. How about to end the half? U show ur lack of objectivity when u would rather have the kid who played well but lost over the guy who also played well and won. And led his team down the field for the game winner with hardly any time at all.
It’s this kind of stuff that shows people’s real agenda. I’d be happy to take Wilson. I would trade Palmer for him immediately. But Ryan is the better qb at this time.
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of course I realize that. They shoudl have taken 3 points. That wasnt russells call. He took the sack. Ok.
I’d take that Rookie Miskake along with all his other skill sets. He got them back in the game period.
Im saying what I would want as a qb. He fits it 100 percent. Kaepernick too.
These two are gonna be amazing more then RG3. I’d wanter either one of them not over any qb not named Brady/ Rodgers
January 13th, 2013 at 1:45 pm
Shutdown Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 1:38 pm
“I hate Seattle. For many reasons. You old school Raider fans can relate.”
Yep, Jim Zorn and Steve Largent.
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Ugggggg, Largent would school us.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:46 pm
oakfshow Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 1:44 pm
1664.mcfadden20. Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 1:39 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 1:33 pm
All day–u do realize Matt Ryan and the falcons won the game right? Shouldn’t u be asking if there’s another Matt Ryan in the draft?
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Not really.. Russell Wilson was amazing in the 4th quarter any other qb would have been taking sacks not getting out of hte pocket.
That prevent D prevented the win
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It wasn’t prevent, Seattle sent 5 or 6 guys at Matt Ryan on every single play, maybe they are probably scratching their heads and thinking maybe just maybe prevent would have worked there
Now you go from talking zoneblocking to talking defense.AAAAA HAAAAAAA. Clueless little fk stick.
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When you don’t get home with pressure, one of those studs is gonna get open if not all of them. Gonzalez catches anything in his area code. Drove me nuts today.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:47 pm
The Seahawks love Wilson but would trade him for Ryan in a second.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:48 pm
Right im sure they would trade for that contract too.
About 18 teams would trade a 1st for Russell Wilson by draft time
January 13th, 2013 at 1:48 pm
Moron #1 and Moron #2.I wonder if your mothers realize what kind of idiots they raised.Probably not. Apple doesnt fall to far from the tree.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:49 pm
Rookie. Matt ryan had to wait about 4 years to win a playoff game
January 13th, 2013 at 1:50 pm
Before we start calling anybody great, from Russell Wilson to Luck to RGIII to any other youngster, you got to let the league get some film, let some of these teams play them a few times, and see what happens.
You look at NFL history, defenses usually bring them back closer to the pack then vice versa.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:50 pm
dont even bring up palmer .
Matt ryan, Kaep, Russell wilson all better then what we have
January 13th, 2013 at 1:50 pm
Dr_robert Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 1:47 pm
The Seahawks love Wilson but would trade him for Ryan in a second.
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You are such a Tool. What a dumb comment. They barely one that game. Ryan has been horrible in the playoffs.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:51 pm
It wasn’t prevent, Seattle sent 5 or 6 guys at Matt Ryan on every single play, maybe they are probably scratching their heads and thinking maybe just maybe prevent would have worked there
Now you go from talking zoneblocking to talking defense.AAAAA HAAAAAAA. Clueless little fk stick.
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LMFAO says the idiot who wasn’t going to show up had seattle won, but since Atl won, with 30 seconds remaining comeback, he thought it was a good idea to take a crack at ZBS LMFAO, n obviously what i said about D is true, Seattle wasn’t playing preventing, they were sending 5 or 6 on that atl gw fg drive , do you just troll like this 24/7?
January 13th, 2013 at 1:51 pm
Before we start calling anybody great, from Russell Wilson to Luck to RGIII to any other youngster, you got to let the league get some film, let some of these teams play them a few times, and see what happens.
You look at NFL history, defenses usually bring them back closer to the pack then vice versa.
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Nobody calling them great, Im saying Id want to build around these young guys.
I’d rather have the “film” out as opposed to not having them on our roster
January 13th, 2013 at 1:52 pm
Rookie. Matt ryan had to wait about 4 years to win a playoff game
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He has had made the playoffs 4 of 5 years, taking a team from 4-12 to that, and now has a home game to make the Super Bowl.
We will see if Wilson will have such credentials in a few years.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:52 pm
Witnessing the END of zoneblocking.Doesnt work worth a fk.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:52 pm
Debo–u see big time deficiencies in Matt Ryan? Are u kidding? He’s one if the most highly thought of qb’s in the nfl. And even if he had minor issues, u see major ones? C’mon. Oh wait. He doesn’t run well. Plus he doesn’t share ur color. U realize by becoming what u always hated about white racists, u don’t beat them. U become them.
If a black qb wins the next 20 Super Bowls, it won’t affect or change one thing in ur life or about u. Identifying urself by approximate skin color of about a quarter of the worlds population is really misguided. Skin color has nothing to do with anything.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:53 pm
Shaub was terrible in that 1st game against the Pats. Looks much sharper today.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:53 pm
Wilson has a little bit of steve young in him.. throwin on the run.. not lefty though
January 13th, 2013 at 1:53 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 1:46 pm
oakfshow Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 1:44 pm
1664.mcfadden20. Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 1:39 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 1:33 pm
All day–u do realize Matt Ryan and the falcons won the game right? Shouldn’t u be asking if there’s another Matt Ryan in the draft?
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Not really.. Russell Wilson was amazing in the 4th quarter any other qb would have been taking sacks not getting out of hte pocket.
That prevent D prevented the win
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It wasn’t prevent, Seattle sent 5 or 6 guys at Matt Ryan on every single play, maybe they are probably scratching their heads and thinking maybe just maybe prevent would have worked there
Now you go from talking zoneblocking to talking defense.AAAAA HAAAAAAA. Clueless little fk stick.
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When you don’t get home with pressure, one of those studs is gonna get open if not all of them. Gonzalez catches anything in his area code. Drove me nuts today.
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Exactly tell him debo, he’s just trolling , but don;t worry he will leave once nobody pays attention to him
January 13th, 2013 at 1:53 pm
Pedro Gomez@pedrogomezESPN
What a time for the Bay Area. Giants, Niners, A’s, Warriors and Stanford. Good times, for sure.
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Raiders the only one who never pick up the slack.
always the only team in the bay . horrible
January 13th, 2013 at 1:54 pm
NO TO MARTZ – He is condescending, screams at his players, creating dissention, then he leaves with him NOT staying more than 2 years. I can’t believe DA is so DAMN PASSIVE about his hiring, must be ‘Chubby Checker’ is too busy eating his fried chicken.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:54 pm
Dr_robert Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 1:52 pm
Debo–u see big time deficiencies in Matt Ryan? Are u kidding? He’s one if the most highly thought of qb’s in the nfl. And even if he had minor issues, u see major ones? C’mon. Oh wait. He doesn’t run well. Plus he doesn’t share ur color. U realize by becoming what u always hated about white racists, u don’t beat them. U become them.
If a black qb wins the next 20 Super Bowls, it won’t affect or change one thing in ur life or about u. Identifying urself by approximate skin color of about a quarter of the worlds population is really misguided. Skin color has nothing to do with anything.
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Always about race with you. There is that “hidden agenda”
January 13th, 2013 at 1:54 pm
And the guys that continue to stay great, really don’t get any better, they just stay great.
Is Brady any better than he was 10 years ago? Maybe a tad but not much.
And some guys just fall off the map, like Sanchez and Culpepper, guys who were better there first couple years and made playoff runs, then eventually fell off.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:55 pm
Matt couldnt lace wilsons boots fellers.That kid is clutch.To bad the zoneblocking scheme and Tom Cable ended his season.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:55 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 1:53 pm
Shaub was terrible in that 1st game against the Pats. Looks much sharper today.
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But he missed wide open Johnson in the back of end zone, overthrew him by a mile
January 13th, 2013 at 1:55 pm
dr_robert Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 1:52 pm
Debo–u see big time deficiencies in Matt Ryan? Are u kidding? He’s one if the most highly thought of qb’s in the nfl. And even if he had minor issues, u see major ones? C’mon. Oh wait. He doesn’t run well. Plus he doesn’t share ur color. U realize by becoming what u always hated about white racists, u don’t beat them. U become them.
If a black qb wins the next 20 Super Bowls, it won’t affect or change one thing in ur life or about u. Identifying urself by approximate skin color of about a quarter of the worlds population is really misguided. Skin color has nothing to do with anything.
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Whatever.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:56 pm
RaidO–sorry if u don’t like the truth. Every gm in the nfl would rank Ryan higher than Wilson. Wilson’s good. Ryan’s better.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:56 pm
He has had made the playoffs 4 of 5 years, taking a team from 4-12 to that, and now has a home game to make the Super Bowl.
We will see if Wilson will have such credentials in a few years.
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Taking them to, and winning are seperate things.
Wilson has already done that. There are only so many Matt Ryans , Rogers and Brady though.
I would have liked our chances if the Raiders had wilson
January 13th, 2013 at 1:57 pm
Debo–great retort.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:57 pm
I think this is where NE slows the game down, settles in and begins their blowout.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:57 pm
RW AND KAPP are great but where would they be if they didn’t had great D’s to help them out?
January 13th, 2013 at 1:57 pm
Witnessing the END of zoneblocking.Doesnt work worth a fk.
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Tell that to Baltimore.
You realize both of these teams run ZBS right? Texans more exclusively but the Pats run it as well.
The playoffs were littered with ZBS teams, and some still playing.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:57 pm
BLACKBONES Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 1:54 pm
NO TO MARTZ – He is condescending, screams at his players, creating dissention, then he leaves with him NOT staying more than 2 years. I can’t believe DA is so DAMN PASSIVE about his hiring, must be ‘Chubby Checker’ is too busy eating his fried chicken.
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Looks like it may be the best the Raiders can do besides hiring a assistant who’s never called a play in the NFL.
The idea of Saunders and Martz creating a offense sounds good.
January 13th, 2013 at 1:58 pm
Mark Davis must get tired of being the only team in the bay area that kinda sucks and not getting it together.
Pedro Gomez@pedrogomezESPN
What a time for the Bay Area. Giants, Niners, A’s, Warriors and Stanford. Good times, for sure.
Give Reggie 3 years. starting NOW
January 13th, 2013 at 1:58 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 1:56 pm
He has had made the playoffs 4 of 5 years, taking a team from 4-12 to that, and now has a home game to make the Super Bowl.
We will see if Wilson will have such credentials in a few years.
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Taking them to, and winning are seperate things.
Wilson has already done that. There are only so many Matt Ryans , Rogers and Brady though.
I would have liked our chances if the Raiders had wilson
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Except we don’t have that awesome D and special teams yet
January 13th, 2013 at 1:59 pm
RW AND KAPP are great but where would they be if they didn’t had great D’s to help them out?
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where would any team be. Qb is the fist guy looked at.
STill would want them on the Raiders Roster. Something to look foward too. Right now our cupboard is bare. Have nothing other then Miles Burris and DMAC, thats it
January 13th, 2013 at 1:59 pm
RaidO–exactly the opposite. It’s nothing to do with race for me. I call out the racism in others. I don’t care about skin color one bit. Can u say the same?
January 13th, 2013 at 1:59 pm
Dr_robert Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 1:56 pm
RaidO–sorry if u don’t like the truth. Every gm in the nfl would rank Ryan higher than Wilson. Wilson’s good. Ryan’s better.
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LOL, that is very debatable. Wilson is only a rookie and has a huge upside. Ryan just barely won his first playoff game.
January 13th, 2013 at 2:00 pm
Except we don’t have that awesome D and special teams yet
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Wilson is only 23 yrs old and getting paid 3rd rounder money. There is time. At least u got the most important question out of the way. U would have a QB for the future
January 13th, 2013 at 2:00 pm
Watt came to play!
January 13th, 2013 at 2:00 pm
Dr_robert Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 1:59 pm
RaidO–exactly the opposite. It’s nothing to do with race for me. I call out the racism in others. I don’t care about skin color one bit. Can u say the same?
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You will now probably say Smith is better than Kap.
January 13th, 2013 at 2:01 pm
Wilson has already done that.
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Done what? Go to the 2nd round of the playoffs?
Tebow did that last year. Ryan has done that 2 of his 4 playoff runs.
Wilson looks good, but give it some time. He might not make the playoffs for another 3 years, you never know.
January 13th, 2013 at 2:01 pm
I would take RW over Palmer right now , because of their contracts, and that’s it only
January 13th, 2013 at 2:01 pm
Jokefoshow going on and on about the zbs sucking. Only problem is its all the rage in football. Everyone but him knows it.
Jokefoshow u and I comprise the smartest guy and the dumbest guy in the room. Do u know which is which?
January 13th, 2013 at 2:01 pm
I’m really proud of Russel Wilson but hate the Seahawks and their fraud of an HC.
What the he|| was he thinking icing the kicker at home then faking an argument with the refs? Did he honestly expect them to prevent Bryant from taking a practice shot?
January 13th, 2013 at 2:02 pm
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/13/report-eagles-interviewed-brian-billick/
LOL!!
January 13th, 2013 at 2:02 pm
Done what? Go to the 2nd round of the playoffs?
Tebow did that last year. Ryan has done that 2 of his 4 playoff runs.
Wilson looks good, but give it some time. He might not make the playoffs for another 3 years, you never know.
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Thats not good for a Rookie?? thats not the object of the NFL to make it to the playoffs.. then win ..and build from there? wow must be a different sport
January 13th, 2013 at 2:02 pm
Any idea what ray anderson does. Reggie hirea him, or hes reggies boss? Anybody know
January 13th, 2013 at 2:02 pm
JoFoShow is just a troll , no need to keep feeding him DR_robert
January 13th, 2013 at 2:04 pm
I would take RW over Palmer right now , because of their contracts, and that’s it only
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I’d take RW, younger, accurate, mobile, throw on the run, keep defense honest, can throw from the pocket, Cheaper, just as smart.
I think alot of teams would want RW other then Hue Jackson
January 13th, 2013 at 2:04 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 2:01 pm
I would take RW over Palmer right now , because of their contracts, and that’s it only
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LOL, you still holding on to that “Palmer will be great” crap. Palmer is a loser. Romo > Palmer
January 13th, 2013 at 2:04 pm
Not sure why people don’t like the idea of Martz.
Go look at the 2010 Bears he coached. Week 15 and 16 they were fighting for the divison and a by, and put up 40 then 38 points. Had nothing to play for week 17.
The went out and hung 35 in the first round of the playoffs.
40,38 and 35 points on the way to the conference championsip game? Only 2 years ago?
That is about the best we can do with our OC search!!!
January 13th, 2013 at 2:04 pm
morilla Says:
Was Carroll arguing with himself? Setting it up to blame someone else for calling a time out?
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That was my first thought.
January 13th, 2013 at 2:04 pm
RaidO–are u serious? U haven’t paid attention. Maybe that’s the problem. I loved harbaugh a move to kaepernick. Very gutsy but he realized he had a more dynamic guy and went for the brass ring. Kaepernick a fantastic. I think I like him best of all the new wave. Very talented. Only gonna get better. Will soon be a top five qb.
January 13th, 2013 at 2:05 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 1:57 pm
RW AND KAPP are great but where would they be if they didn’t had great D’s to help them out?
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Where would any QB be without a good D.
Last time I checked, the D must stop the opposing O.
RW put up 21 points in the 4th qtr today…
RW and Kap are badda$$
January 13th, 2013 at 2:05 pm
Ray Anderson would be an excellent hire, rapport with NFL OFFICE can only help when it comes to refs and other negotiations
January 13th, 2013 at 2:06 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 2:04 pm
I would take RW over Palmer right now , because of their contracts, and that’s it only
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I’d take RW, younger, accurate, mobile, throw on the run, keep defense honest, can throw from the pocket, Cheaper, just as smart.
I think alot of teams would want RW other then Hue Jackson
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What was the TD to int ratio between RW and CP…?
January 13th, 2013 at 2:07 pm
IF Niners beat falcons they are winning the superbowl.
Nobody will be able to stop that offense. Kaep will probaly have a 70 yard run td in the SB.
Raiders almost landing Kaepernick will be as good as it gets being a Raider fan the last ten years
January 13th, 2013 at 2:07 pm
I would take griffin kaepernick Wilson and newton over Palmer (although with martz, I think Palmer could toss for 5k), but the only qb in the nfl I would take Pryor over is Leinart.
January 13th, 2013 at 2:07 pm
Anybody else get the feeling SF is gonna beat down ATL like they did GB ??
January 13th, 2013 at 2:07 pm
Thats not good for a Rookie?? thats not the object of the NFL to make it to the playoffs.. then win ..and build from there?
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It’s a huge accomplishment for a rookie, and he deserves a ton of credit. He put that team on his back and almost pulled it off.
But Sanchez did the same thing. The league usually catches up to young QB’s. The ones who don’t are the all-time greats typically.
January 13th, 2013 at 2:08 pm
Oh yeah I forgot RW had a better D…ROFLMAO
January 13th, 2013 at 2:08 pm
Source: Kaepernick is No. 1 QB on Raiders’ draft board
Posted by Evan Silva on April 28, 2011, 12:42 PM EST
APTwelve days ago, a league source told PFT that one unnamed AFC West team informed Nevada’s Colin Kaepernick that he is the No. 1 quarterback on their draft board.
PFT has tracked down the team.
Per a league source, it’s the Oakland Raiders.
The Raiders hosted Kaepernick for an official, team-facility visit on April 12. Thursday morning, the San Francisco Chronicle reported that Oakland is trying to trade into the first round of the draft.”
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Thats as good as it gets in terms of the future of the Raiders the last ten years. We do got Miles Burris and DMAC tho
January 13th, 2013 at 2:09 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 2:07 pm
Thats not good for a Rookie?? thats not the object of the NFL to make it to the playoffs.. then win ..and build from there?
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It’s a huge accomplishment for a rookie, and he deserves a ton of credit. He put that team on his back and almost pulled it off.
But Sanchez did the same thing. The league usually catches up to young QB’s. The ones who don’t are the all-time greats typically.
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Sanchez never has, and never will be as good a RW.
January 13th, 2013 at 2:09 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 2:07 pm
Anybody else get the feeling SF is gonna beat down ATL like they did GB ??
No question, Ice guy wont do it 2 weeks in a row…
January 13th, 2013 at 2:09 pm
It’s pretty obvious that more black guys care about skin color in here than the white guys. Matt Ryan win the game and all guys are talking about is Wilson.
And most of the white guys have said many times they would take any of the Fab Four new wavers. But the black guys somehow want Pryor over Palmer.
Racism is racism boys. Free ur mind.
January 13th, 2013 at 2:09 pm
Thec Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 2:08 pm
Oh yeah I forgot RW had a better D…ROFLMAO
– #1 Ds doesn’t hurt, it gave QB’s like Dilfer and Rob Johnson Rings, just saying
January 13th, 2013 at 2:10 pm
[...] The Oakland Raiders are looking for an offensive coordinator and Martz could be their man after they gave Greg Knapp the boot. The Raiders interviewed Martz on Saturday, according to the Contra Costa Times. [...]
January 13th, 2013 at 2:10 pm
I would take griffin kaepernick Wilson and newton over Palmer (although with martz, I think Palmer could toss for 5k), but the only qb in the nfl I would take Pryor over is Leinart.
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im with you. I like Pryor, kid has fire.. but Idk about the qb spot. Dont get me wrong I still want him on our team cuz he can be an asset. 6ft 5 240 .. who run a 4.3 dont grow off trees… but its gonna be time to get serious with the qb spot. He ist on our team yet.
January 13th, 2013 at 2:10 pm
RaidO Says:
LOL, you still holding on to that “Palmer will be great” crap.
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He11 no. I ’still’ think he’s great. “Will be” would be the hope for someone like Pryor who’s yet to prove anything, one way or the other, except that he’s a leader and a hard worker, like Palmer.
January 13th, 2013 at 2:10 pm
If the salaries were even, there still isn’t one team that would take Palmer over Wilson.
I leave this season highly disappointed in Carson and resigned to the fact that he just doesn’t have “IT”.
“IT” is one of those things you can’t put your finger on what “IT” is, but you know easily if someone has it or not.
Carson does not. Pryor just might.
January 13th, 2013 at 2:11 pm
How come all u guys don’t give love to freeman? He’s black too u know. One if my favorite non-raiders.
January 13th, 2013 at 2:11 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 2:09 pm
Thec Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 2:08 pm
Oh yeah I forgot RW had a better D…ROFLMAO
– #1 Ds doesn’t hurt, it gave QB’s like Dilfer and Rob Johnson Rings, just saying
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RW is allready miles ahead of Johnson and dilfer…”just saying”…
January 13th, 2013 at 2:12 pm
It’s pretty obvious that more black guys care about skin color in here than the white guys. Matt Ryan win the game and all guys are talking about is Wilson.
And most of the white guys have said many times they would take any of the Fab Four new wavers. But the black guys somehow want Pryor over Palmer.
Racism is racism boys. Free ur mind
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Im not black, nor do i get care about who we are talking about. I loved Steve young, and Loved John elway. I love any qb who can throw an accurate pass, throw from the pocket, and throw on the run, and scramble for a first down when needed. PERIOD. Stop being dramatic
January 13th, 2013 at 2:12 pm
How come all u guys don’t give love to freeman? He’s black too u know. One if my favorite non-raiders.
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Freeman is ok. Not that good of a qb .. and could be cut after next year.
January 13th, 2013 at 2:13 pm
Thec Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 2:11 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 2:09 pm
Thec Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 2:08 pm
Oh yeah I forgot RW had a better D…ROFLMAO
– #1 Ds doesn’t hurt, it gave QB’s like Dilfer and Rob Johnson Rings, just saying
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RW is allready miles ahead of Johnson and dilfer…”just saying”
– oh he’s better than Johnson and Dilfer? that’s saying a lot lol
January 13th, 2013 at 2:13 pm
I hate on Kapy because he is a 49er. Loved him out of college, and love the ex-baseball guys. Always argued on here that Pryor is nowhere near the prospect or has the arm talent as Kapy.
But he is a 49er, I hope he ends up horrible.
January 13th, 2013 at 2:14 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 2:12 pm
It’s pretty obvious that more black guys care about skin color in here than the white guys. Matt Ryan win the game and all guys are talking about is Wilson.
And most of the white guys have said many times they would take any of the Fab Four new wavers. But the black guys somehow want Pryor over Palmer.
Racism is racism boys. Free ur mind
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Im not black, nor do i get care about who we are talking about. I loved Steve young, and Loved John elway. I love any qb who can throw an accurate pass, throw from the pocket, and throw on the run, and scramble for a first down when needed. PERIOD. Stop being dramatic
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Yeah, Dr Robert always seems to be the one on this blog talking about race. Cut that nonsense out.
January 13th, 2013 at 2:14 pm
Just fire–if by “IT”, u mean a #1 wr, a running game, a good o-line, and a good OC, then yes I would say he didn’t have “IT” this year.
January 13th, 2013 at 2:15 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 2:07 pm
IF Niners beat falcons they are winning the superbowl.
Nobody will be able to stop that offense. Kaep will probaly have a 70 yard run td in the SB.
Raiders almost landing Kaepernick will be as good as it gets being a Raider fan the last ten years.
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Don’t know about that. New England won’t fall for that stuff again. Belichick is a genius demigod and the Ravens will smack the taste out of their mouths.
January 13th, 2013 at 2:15 pm
Grok out
January 13th, 2013 at 2:15 pm
I’d love to pick up an OC that allows shotgun all the time for Palmer like Bellicheat allows for the super non mobile Brady.
January 13th, 2013 at 2:16 pm
All day–freeman could be cut? Better check the stats friend. Not in a million years.
January 13th, 2013 at 2:16 pm
Palmer can’t hurt you on the ground but he can hurt you as much with his arm with the best of them if you can give him better receivers
January 13th, 2013 at 2:16 pm
Brad Johnson was a damn good QB, go look at his 2002 season.
One of the best QB’d seasons in NFL history.
22 to 6 TD:INT ratio, #2 QB rating, 60% completion, Pro Bowl, Super Bowl win.
Very few, if any QB’s had a year like that.
And he took the Skins to the playoffs and I think the Vikings as well.
Not sure why people think he is in the “Dilfer” category. Hostetler is more Dilfer than Brad Johnson.
January 13th, 2013 at 2:17 pm
Want to win a SB?
Better be able to SCORE!!!!!!
PLEASE help our offense this offseason!!!!
January 13th, 2013 at 2:17 pm
I talk race a lot cuz it’s obvious some guys are rooting for guys cuz of skin color and I call them out for it. They don’t like having it pointed out for what it is.
January 13th, 2013 at 2:18 pm
I’d need Rob Parker’s seal of approval before backing Freeman
Can never be too careful these days
January 13th, 2013 at 2:18 pm
Freeman was not extended before the season, then he dropped a stink bomb of a 2nd half of the year.
He will go into next year a lame duck QB, with a super short string, and a playoffs or get lost cloud over his head.
Not good.
January 13th, 2013 at 2:18 pm
dr_robert Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 2:17 pm
I talk race a lot cuz it’s obvious some guys are rooting for guys cuz of skin color and I call them out for it. They don’t like having it pointed out for what it is.
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Let the racists talk with themselves, obviously they have an agenda, wouldn’t surprise me if one of these guys is M1st1c
January 13th, 2013 at 2:19 pm
papertiger418 Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 2:18 pm
I’d need Rob Parker’s seal of approval before backing Freeman
Can never be too careful these days
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lmfao
January 13th, 2013 at 2:19 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 2:16 pm
Palmer can’t hurt you on the ground but he can hurt you as much with his arm with the best of them if you can give him better receivers
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Yeah, Palmer can hurt the team he is on by throwing INT’s at the worse time.
January 13th, 2013 at 2:19 pm
How is Kapy’s race even in the convo?
I think Gradkowski and I are darker than him, lol
January 13th, 2013 at 2:19 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 2:13 pm
Thec Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 2:11 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 2:09 pm
Thec Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 2:08 pm
Oh yeah I forgot RW had a better D…ROFLMAO
– #1 Ds doesn’t hurt, it gave QB’s like Dilfer and Rob Johnson Rings, just saying
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RW is allready miles ahead of Johnson and dilfer…”just saying”
– oh he’s better than Johnson and Dilfer? that’s saying a lot lol
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We do have a very small smaple size of 1 year however, based on the statistics between the 3 QB’s RW is years ahead of both Dilfer and Johnson at this point.
If we extrapolate he will wind up with a better career than both.
“Just Saying”
January 13th, 2013 at 2:19 pm
Wanna know the real wave of the future? Pistol? Yes. Mobility? Yes. But more escapability and running out of bounds for first downs. Accurate passing will be needed more than ever.
January 13th, 2013 at 2:21 pm
Vilfork (whatever his name is ) is the size of 2 Defensive tackles
January 13th, 2013 at 2:21 pm
Dr_robert Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 2:17 pm
I talk race a lot cuz it’s obvious some guys are rooting for guys cuz of skin color and I call them out for it. They don’t like having it pointed out for what it is.
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Can you understand that a lot of people think Palmer sucks and is not a winner. They don’t care about his skin color like you do.
January 13th, 2013 at 2:22 pm
I’m betting a lot of the posters that were so into the first game aren’t as interested in this one. Wonder why.
January 13th, 2013 at 2:24 pm
Looks like Pats will advance again, freakin hate those b1tches
January 13th, 2013 at 2:24 pm
RaidO–I just told u skin color means nothing to me. But u just repeat what u want cuz it fits ur agenda better. Palmer doesn’t suck. That’s just dumb. And he loses cuz his team sucks. He’s not great either. But his color means nothing to me. Told u this already.
January 13th, 2013 at 2:24 pm
Yeah, I remember reading something about how Schiano was calling out Freeman for his lack of consistency.
Could just be lighting a fire under the kid’s a$$ but you never know…
January 13th, 2013 at 2:25 pm
Dr ROb quit fighting with them , lol Palmer will start the game and we will just laugh at them
January 13th, 2013 at 2:25 pm
texaints offense looks like krapp…
January 13th, 2013 at 2:25 pm
Dr_robert Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 1:59 pm
RaidO–exactly the opposite. It’s nothing to do with race for me. I call out the racism in others. I don’t care about skin color one bit. Can u say the same?
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u sure bout that?
January 13th, 2013 at 2:25 pm
freakin Welker is one sneaky little guy
January 13th, 2013 at 2:25 pm
I hate the patriots. Don’t like Brady but I respect his game. It’s more belicheck I don’t like.
January 13th, 2013 at 2:25 pm
Trade back, draft the OG Warmack and a WR.
January 13th, 2013 at 2:26 pm
and their defense…
January 13th, 2013 at 2:27 pm
Rockinraider–said it a million times. But people believe what they want.
January 13th, 2013 at 2:27 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 2:25 pm
texaints offense looks like krapp…
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Oakf0shw is back , welcome back trolll
January 13th, 2013 at 2:27 pm
Mcf20–lol. Pointless I know.
January 13th, 2013 at 2:27 pm
whate else can you expect from an ex donkey…chokers…
January 13th, 2013 at 2:28 pm
Shane Vereen… ex-Cal Golden Bear, no?
January 13th, 2013 at 2:28 pm
mcxcuse20…hows your buddy knapp?
January 13th, 2013 at 2:28 pm
Here’s a question. Did anyone watching Wilson and kaepernick think Pryor has any chance to ever pass like that?
January 13th, 2013 at 2:30 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 2:28 pm
mcxcuse20…hows your buddy knapp?
– Same place your buddy CHuck “Man D Genius” Bresnahan is at
January 13th, 2013 at 2:30 pm
pryor has a strong arm delivery seems a but slow…
January 13th, 2013 at 2:31 pm
Dr_robert Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 2:25 pm
I hate the patriots. Don’t like Brady but I respect his game. It’s more belicheck I don’t like.
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I used to dislike him as well. But I’ve grown to respect him. He’s a genius. Absolute. They might as well start building the statue outside of the stadium now.
January 13th, 2013 at 2:31 pm
Dr_robert Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 2:28 pm
Here’s a question. Did anyone watching Wilson and kaepernick think Pryor has any chance to ever pass like that?
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These highlights look a lot like what Kap did to the Packers Saturday throwing and running. TP can pass just fine so not that crap out.
Terrelle Pryor – 2010 Highlights
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBognMAW9Es
January 13th, 2013 at 2:31 pm
*knock
January 13th, 2013 at 2:32 pm
TP throws a great deep ball.
January 13th, 2013 at 2:32 pm
Yeah Brady is amazing, it would have been way easier to cheer for him had the tuck game didn’t happen against him
January 13th, 2013 at 2:33 pm
Considering the holes on this roster and what the offense had to deal with this past season, I still have trouble seeing why anyone would want to ditch Palmer.
Uncertainty at the QB position is the LAST thing our team needs to deal with.
January 13th, 2013 at 2:33 pm
It’s obvious M1st1c is here, in form of RaidO,
January 13th, 2013 at 2:35 pm
You love keeping the race talk going. So save your bs. Nothing worse than someone spreading racial bs, while acting like they want nothing to do with it. You are not just one of the worst on this board, you are absolutely THE WORST.
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Dr_robert Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 2:27 pm
Rockinraider–said it a million times. But people believe what they want.
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dr_robert Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:33 pm
Kaepernick is the perfect qb. Black athleticism and white brains.
January 13th, 2013 at 2:35 pm
Look at how Foster cuts back, Mcfadden could never do that, now we have to build scheme around a guy who’s only healthy half of the year
January 13th, 2013 at 2:36 pm
RockinRaider Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 2:35 pm
You love keeping the race talk going. So save your bs. Nothing worse than someone spreading racial bs, while acting like they want nothing to do with it. You are not just one of the worst on this board, you are absolutely THE WORST.
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Dr_robert Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 2:27 pm
Rockinraider–said it a million times. But people believe what they want.
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dr_robert Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:33 pm
Kaepernick is the perfect qb. Black athleticism and white brains.
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You left the other part, where he said he’s just pulling the legs of “Wave of future” supporters
January 13th, 2013 at 2:37 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 2:33 pm
It’s obvious M1st1c is here, in form of RaidO,
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WTF are you talking about? Everybody does not share your dumb views. Get the hell out of here with that mess.
January 13th, 2013 at 2:39 pm
More racebaiting by dr.rob
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Dr_robert Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 2:11 pm
How come all u guys don’t give love to freeman? He’s black too u know. One if my favorite non-raiders.
January 13th, 2013 at 2:40 pm
3rd and long short pass 5 yds short of the sticks!!! Look familiar
January 13th, 2013 at 2:41 pm
RaidO Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 2:37 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 2:33 pm
It’s obvious M1st1c is here, in form of RaidO,
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WTF are you talking about? Everybody does not share your dumb views. Get the hell out of here with that mess.
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LMFAO it’s funny how u share the same view point, RGIII, CAM, KAP, WILSON, wave of future, athletic, etc ,etc , oh just a co-incidence? lMFAO
January 13th, 2013 at 2:42 pm
I can’t tell if you are a idiot, or just stupid.
When someone makes a racist comment,then follows it with “oh, just kidding”?
Only a damn idiot would state what you did.
You would be better just reading, and not posting. You really do seem lightyears behind everyone else when it comes to thinking.
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Mcfadden20. Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 2:36 pm
RockinRaider Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 2:35 pm
You love keeping the race talk going. So save your bs. Nothing worse than someone spreading racial bs, while acting like they want nothing to do with it. You are not just one of the worst on this board, you are absolutely THE WORST.
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Dr_robert Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 2:27 pm
Rockinraider–said it a million times. But people believe what they want.
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dr_robert Says:
January 12th, 2013 at 9:33 pm
Kaepernick is the perfect qb. Black athleticism and white brains.
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You left the other part, where he said he’s just pulling the legs of “Wave of future” supporters
January 13th, 2013 at 2:43 pm
Oh well Pats will advance, i hope Baltimore has some crazy game plan, JJ Watt is the D MVP, got through triple team to get that tackle
January 13th, 2013 at 2:44 pm
Report: Raiders talking to Ray Anderson
Posted by Mike Florio on January 13, 2013, 3:24 PM EST
Getty Images
Ever since the debacle that was the referee lockout, there has been a sense in league circles that executive V.P. of football operations Ray Anderson could be on his way out — whether by choice or otherwise.
Coincidentally or otherwise, he could be on his way out.
Chris Mortensen of ESPN reports that the Raiders have had exploratory talks with Anderson regarding the possibility of joining the team in “senior executive front office job.” Per Mort, owner Mark Davis is contemplating a restructuring of the organization.
January 13th, 2013 at 2:45 pm
NE is too much for these guys
January 13th, 2013 at 2:46 pm
RockinRaider Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 2:42 pm
I can’t tell if you are a idiot, or just stupid.
When someone makes a racist comment,then follows it with “oh, just kidding”?
Only a damn idiot would state what you did.
You would be better just reading, and not posting. You really do seem lightyears behind everyone else when it comes to thinking.
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That was a response to everyone calling him a racist, so he’s just pulling every one’s legs , n obviously it seems like he pulled yours too, you have no problem with m1st1c the obvious racist who comes in here and bashes palmer after the D gives up 55 points to baltimore and come in here and tell us how our receivers suck really bad for the first time when Pryor started, not even once did he said our receivers s8ck when Palmer was the starter, lol
January 13th, 2013 at 2:46 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 2:41 pm
RaidO Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 2:37 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 2:33 pm
It’s obvious M1st1c is here, in form of RaidO,
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WTF are you talking about? Everybody does not share your dumb views. Get the hell out of here with that mess.
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LMFAO it’s funny how u share the same view point, RGIII, CAM, KAP, WILSON, wave of future, athletic, etc ,etc , oh just a co-incidence? lMFAO
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You are such a fricking tool. The only thing i have said is i think TP should get a REAL chance to start and Palmer is not worth his contract. Reggie is a Green bay guy. I could see him cutting Palmer and bringing in Matt Flynn.
Hey these highlights look a lot like what Kap did to the Packers. It’s only college but TP has showed some flashes that he could do this in the NFL to. Oh and he can throw so stop the madness.
Terrelle Pryor – 2010 Highlights
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBognMAW9Es
January 13th, 2013 at 2:47 pm
1783-That would be ideal!
January 13th, 2013 at 2:48 pm
just troll, baby
January 13th, 2013 at 2:49 pm
f8kk Pats are winning, this is pissing me off, i’m out , later guys
January 13th, 2013 at 2:50 pm
Can ee get a new thread already?
January 13th, 2013 at 2:52 pm
The ONLY thing Houston can do is run the ball. How the hell did they make it this far?
January 13th, 2013 at 2:54 pm
From Knapp to Martz? Raiders, bastards of the NFL?
January 13th, 2013 at 2:56 pm
Guys…highlights make even Joe Webb look good. Why they’re called highlights.
THE DEFINITIVE PRYOR EXPERIENCE!!
vs and completion%:
USC 44%
Wisconsin 38%
Penn St. 47%
Arkansas 56%
Iowa 54%
Wisconsin 50%
Miami 44%
January 13th, 2013 at 2:56 pm
That drive was ALL Foster. The passing game better get going in the 2nd half.
January 13th, 2013 at 2:57 pm
Afc to lose sb again
January 13th, 2013 at 2:58 pm
Debo. You know they’ve had a top 7 D two years in a row?
They also play in the division with the Jaguars, Titans, and Colts.
January 13th, 2013 at 2:59 pm
Zbs more like pbs,
Foster 6 carries for 10 yards , when it counts.
When a team has great running qb, aka, Tebow, Vick, Elway. Wilson; it makes the
scheme look better than it
January 13th, 2013 at 3:00 pm
Pryor does a lot of things well and is a gifted athlete but he cant throw and its kind of late to learn how so he really does need to move to WR already.
January 13th, 2013 at 3:02 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 3:00 pm
Pryor does a lot of things well and is a gifted athlete but he cant throw and its kind of late to learn how so he really does need to move to WR already.
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You are crazy or blind
January 13th, 2013 at 3:03 pm
https://twitter.com/coachingsearch/status/290585687806337027
Sources tell me the Oakland Raiders are interviewing Marc Trestman today for their OC job.
January 13th, 2013 at 3:05 pm
I am blind?
Can you read? If you can try post 1820?
Did you see the last game and the pre-season games he played in?
You are either myopic, a member of the Pryor family, or a severely deranged retard that is oblivious to reality.
January 13th, 2013 at 3:05 pm
While Kaep is breaking playoff records…
Pryor is “learning” that big guys get in your face…
and “learning” that you can’t lob passes all the time.
Don’t we learn that in pop warner?
January 13th, 2013 at 3:10 pm
I see RG3 and Luck tearing it in this league all the while Pryor can’t even beat out Leinart for 2nd string?
January 13th, 2013 at 3:11 pm
Kap is throwing the ball to Crabtree and Davis, handing the ball off to Gore, and playing with a legit defense.
Pryor???
Gimme a break with the comparisons.
It’s a TEAM game!
January 13th, 2013 at 3:11 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 3:05 pm
I am blind?
Can you read? If you can try post 1820?
Did you see the last game and the pre-season games he played in?
You are either myopic, a member of the Pryor family, or a severely deranged retard that is oblivious to reality.
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TP can throw just fine. You are crazy. He also throws a great deep ball. I would expect the passing to be better once he gets some REAL first string reps and gets the timing with the WR’s down. The same was said about Palmer. After watching what Kap did to the Packers it should be interesting to see him get his shot.I know Mark, Reggie, and DA were watching.
January 13th, 2013 at 3:12 pm
666,
I missed ur take on the motorcycle cops harassing McClain, lol.
I know motorcycle cops and 55 are 2 of your favorite subjects.
January 13th, 2013 at 3:13 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 1:43 pm
Pass on Martz. He needs a lot of talent on offense to succeed.
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who doesn’t, O?
is this gonna be your sales pitch to the guys applying for the OC gig?
“come to Oakland & make lemonade out of our lemons. you’ll be considered for HC jobs eventually!!” LOL
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
You think every offense has a HOF RB, Future HOF QB, future HOF LT, and 2 great WRs (I Bruce & T Holt) to worh with?
January 13th, 2013 at 3:13 pm
Work* with
January 13th, 2013 at 3:20 pm
Atleast Raiders new management is interviewing some one Sunday, Al would have been probably hibernating or would have just woke up now n brushing his teeth
January 13th, 2013 at 3:21 pm
RaidO
why doesn’t it matter to you that prior got all the first team reps at Ohio State and still put up those terrible numbers I posted verses every decent defense he faced?
Its who he’s ways been.
January 13th, 2013 at 3:23 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 3:20 pm
Atleast Raiders new management is interviewing some one Sunday, Al would have been probably hibernating or would have just woke up now n brushing his teeth
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Why are you a Raiders fan? The team we like was built by Al. If you don’t like it, find another team to complain about.
January 13th, 2013 at 3:24 pm
I don’t know anything about Mark Trestman, so i xnow what to look forward to if he was hired
January 13th, 2013 at 3:24 pm
You think every offense has a HOF RB, Future HOF QB, future HOF LT, and 2 great WRs (I Bruce & T Holt) to worh with?
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Martz took a rb worth a 2nd rd pick, a QB who was bagging groceries, and 2 DECENT WRs and turned them into what you describe.
They were hardly HOF material prior to Martz putting it all together. Pace being the only exception.
January 13th, 2013 at 3:25 pm
Raider O Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 3:23 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 3:20 pm
Atleast Raiders new management is interviewing some one Sunday, Al would have been probably hibernating or would have just woke up now n brushing his teeth
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Why are you a Raiders fan? The team we like was built by Al. If you don’t like it, find another team to complain about.
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Just messing with you man, I love Al it was true Al had lost it in recent years, but RIP AL, still love you man, without you there would be no Raiders
January 13th, 2013 at 3:26 pm
Alex7 Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 3:21 pm
RaidO
why doesn’t it matter to you that prior got all the first team reps at Ohio State and still put up those terrible numbers I posted verses every decent defense he faced?
Its who he’s ways been.
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You keep saying that nonsense.
Passing Efficiency Rating= 2010 Big Ten 157.9 (3rd)
January 13th, 2013 at 3:26 pm
Spread the offense out, create 1 on 1 mismatches.
Not that hard folks.
January 13th, 2013 at 3:27 pm
McFadden,
We all know Al made mistakes especially in the last decade, but we can’t forget who built our team.
AL = The Raiders.
January 13th, 2013 at 3:29 pm
J Hill Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 3:26 pm
Spread the offense out, create 1 on 1 mismatches.
Not that hard folks.
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Is that what the lakers do?? Sorry couldnt resist Bruh.
January 13th, 2013 at 3:30 pm
Raider O Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 3:27 pm
McFadden,
We all know Al made mistakes especially in the last decade, but we can’t forget who built our team.
AL = The Raiders.
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That’s true, I’m proud to be a Raiders fans even though there hasn’t been much to cheer about in last 10 years, i love the tradition and everything that Al made the Raiders into, it’s okay all teams go through tough times, we will get back on our feet and lead us to a SB trophy
January 13th, 2013 at 3:30 pm
Raider O Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 3:27 pm
McFadden,
We all know Al made mistakes especially in the last decade, but we can’t forget who built our team.
AL = The Raiders.
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TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 13th, 2013 at 3:31 pm
The shovel pass may return to the Raiders playbook?
Via Rotoworld.com:
The Raiders are reportedly interviewing Montreal Alouettes coach Marc Trestman for their offensive coordinator vacancy on Sunday.
Interesting. The interview is proof that Trestman has designs on an NFL return even if he doesn’t get the Bears’ head-coaching job. He joins ex-Rams coach Mike Martz and senior offensive assistant Al Saunders as candidates to run the Raiders offense.
Related: Bears
January 13th, 2013 at 3:33 pm
J Hill Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 3:24 pm
You think every offense has a HOF RB, Future HOF QB, future HOF LT, and 2 great WRs (I Bruce & T Holt) to worh with?
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Martz took a rb worth a 2nd rd pick, a QB who was bagging groceries, and 2 DECENT WRs and turned them into what you describe.
They were hardly HOF material prior to Martz putting it all together. Pace being the only exception.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
What are you talking about?
Faulk, Holt, and Pace were top 10 picks. They were top 10 picks for a reason and Mart,z is not it.
Bruce was a 2nd round pick.
K Warner had success without Martz in AZ.
January 13th, 2013 at 3:35 pm
A director of football operations being hired is a good thing. McKenzie having an actual football man as his boss instead of Davis Jr is a step in the right direction.
Damn. Why didn’t that happen BEFORE the GM was hired.
What if McKenzie is not the this guy’s “guy”?
January 13th, 2013 at 3:36 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 3:24 pm
I don’t know anything about Mark Trestman, so i xnow what to look forward to if he was hired
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“He next went to the Oakland Raiders in 2001 as the quarterbacks coach. In 2002 he was promoted to offensive coordinator and the Raiders led the NFL in total offense with 389.8 yards per game and passing yards with 279.7 per game. Under Trestman’s guidance, Raiders QB Rich Gannon won the 2002 NFL MVP award as the Raiders reached Super Bowl XXXVII,”
January 13th, 2013 at 3:37 pm
Lakers?????
No comment.
Buss Jr, Nash, D’Antonio = lottery bound
January 13th, 2013 at 3:38 pm
morilla Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 3:36 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 3:24 pm
I don’t know anything about Mark Trestman, so i xnow what to look forward to if he was hired
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“He next went to the Oakland Raiders in 2001 as the quarterbacks coach. In 2002 he was promoted to offensive coordinator and the Raiders led the NFL in total offense with 389.8 yards per game and passing yards with 279.7 per game. Under Trestman’s guidance, Raiders QB Rich Gannon won the 2002 NFL MVP award as the Raiders reached Super Bowl XXXVII,”
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Okay kool, sounds good, but doesn’t he run a west coast type of O?
January 13th, 2013 at 3:38 pm
Trestman in 2002 played the same role Saunders played under Hue Jackson in 2011.
Trestman helped design plays while head coach Bill Callahan was the play caller.
January 13th, 2013 at 3:39 pm
When the pats are on the offense, I bet they never turn Brady’s mic and headset off..
January 13th, 2013 at 3:39 pm
Raiders bringing in Trestman cuz that’s who Gruden wants. Bringing back the old gang. Bres is the odd man out though.
Of course i’m kidding.
January 13th, 2013 at 3:39 pm
What are you talking about?
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Raiders OC possibilities.
January 13th, 2013 at 3:41 pm
Would Jerry/Cork post this news before Tuesday?
January 13th, 2013 at 3:41 pm
He’s also had a really good career in the CFL as a head coach.
January 13th, 2013 at 3:41 pm
O,
Give me a name for OC who you would like.
January 13th, 2013 at 3:41 pm
J Hill Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 3:37 pm
Lakers?????
No comment.
Buss Jr, Nash, D’Antonio = lottery bound
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They should have went the Phil route…If not Phil bickerstaff had them playing decent…Didnt they go undefeated on his watch?
A lotto would be good as you guys have not drafted anyone since kobe….lol
January 13th, 2013 at 3:41 pm
Morilla Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 3:36 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 3:24 pm
I don’t know anything about Mark Trestman, so i xnow what to look forward to if he was hired
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“He next went to the Oakland Raiders in 2001 as the quarterbacks coach. In 2002 he was promoted to offensive coordinator and the Raiders led the NFL in total offense with 389.8 yards per game and passing yards with 279.7 per game. Under Trestman’s guidance, Raiders QB Rich Gannon won the 2002 NFL MVP award as the Raiders reached Super Bowl XXXVII,”
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…and then was never heard from again until 2013.
Just playin, but seriously he might as well be an unknown.
January 13th, 2013 at 3:42 pm
“Hey these highlights look a lot like what Kap did to the Packers. It’s only college but TP has showed some flashes that he could do this in the NFL to. Oh and he can throw so stop the madness.”
Terrelle Pryor – 2010 Highlights
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBognMAW9Es
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Are you kidding? This video shows he can run, but in the first 35 seconds, every pass wobbles to its target. You can see the white band on each end of the ball as it flutters on its way–not even close to a tight spiral. That IS the problem.
I don’t get you. I’ve seen high school kids who throw a better ball than this when they’re 16.
January 13th, 2013 at 3:42 pm
I think Joselio Hanson, Adams and Ross would start over the Texans db’s that’s how bad they are. They stink.
January 13th, 2013 at 3:43 pm
so Mularky is also scheduled to be interviewed? Reggie is rolling
January 13th, 2013 at 3:43 pm
J,
Josh McDaniels.
January 13th, 2013 at 3:44 pm
Jerry and Steve are probably busy singing Kapp’s praises for the paper right now.
Not a complaint, merely a statement of fact.
January 13th, 2013 at 3:44 pm
Schaubb is choking big time
January 13th, 2013 at 3:45 pm
O,
I believe in the Willies and Joes more than the Xs and Os.
Add a WR like Bowe to Streater, Ford, and Moore.
Add an OG like Warmack.
Add an OC that focuses on spreading out the offense instead of bunching it up for a RB that’s lost a half step.
January 13th, 2013 at 3:46 pm
I like that, O.
Suggested that last year.
January 13th, 2013 at 3:46 pm
Mcfadden20
Cork and Jerry Mac — who have been put on the 49ers beat — are still discombobulated after watching a successful team go off for a playoff win.
January 13th, 2013 at 3:48 pm
Raider O Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 3:43 pm
J,
Josh McDaniels.
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No way. I would fly to Alamada and punch him in the throat.
January 13th, 2013 at 3:48 pm
J Hill Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 3:45 pm
O,
I believe in the Willies and Joes more than the Xs and Os.
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That’s why I said that Rams team was loaded with talent, and that’s the only place Martz had success.
It wasn’t Martz, it was the “Willies and Joes”.
January 13th, 2013 at 3:48 pm
Phil Jackson couldn’t help this team either.
Nash can’t guard anyone.
Kobe spends more time looking at the refs than playing D.
Artest should be a 6th man.
Darrius Morris????
Chris Duhon????
Lottery roster.
January 13th, 2013 at 3:49 pm
Josh Mcdaniels isn;t bad for OC
January 13th, 2013 at 3:49 pm
With Reggie interviewing these top candidates is it a sign the perception around the league is changing?
Is it possible potential coaches see we actually have some existing weapons on offense like DMAC and just think they were just wrongly utilized by an inept OC?
Is it possible with Al gone Oakland is not the bad situation it used to be perceived as?
January 13th, 2013 at 3:50 pm
J Hill Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 3:46 pm
I like that, O.
Suggested that last year.
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I don’t know if he is available after this year, but he is one of my favorite OCs in the league. The only problem with him is that he ignores the run game a lot.
January 13th, 2013 at 3:50 pm
Do the raiders offense gets a pass due to knapp and his scheme & play callin???
January 13th, 2013 at 3:53 pm
1875.mcfadden20. Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 3:49 pm
Josh Mcdaniels isn;t bad for OC
Didnt I tell you to stop talking like you know sht? Stick to sucking cok cause football aint your game.
January 13th, 2013 at 3:53 pm
McDaniels is the OCO for NE. I know its a wish for some of you guys howeve4r, what would compell him to leave NE?
January 13th, 2013 at 3:54 pm
Martz dumbed down the offense, imo, O.
Allowed the Willies and Joes to do their thing.
Martz would put Moore and Ford in a vertical offense and just use their speed.
McFadden would be a single back who gets handoffs only when the defense is clearly adjusting to the 3 WRs.
Palmer is a better QB than Warner was prior to Martz. He was an absolute nobody. I get Martz is a social clusterphucc, but I think we are on the right track with the thinking on how to use our players.
January 13th, 2013 at 3:54 pm
Houston needs a better qb, got the system down though, Schaubs8cks
January 13th, 2013 at 3:54 pm
Zone blocking sucks son,one team left soon to be none.
January 13th, 2013 at 3:55 pm
McD only leaves the Pats for a HC job elsewhere.
I know injuries have played a role in this, but, I do like what McD is doing today by putting a RB out wide as a WR.
Wish the Raiders would do that more with DMC.
January 13th, 2013 at 3:55 pm
oakfshow Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 3:53 pm
1875.mcfadden20. Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 3:49 pm
Josh Mcdaniels isn;t bad for OC
Didnt I tell you to stop talking like you know sht? Stick to sucking cok cause football aint your game.
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Oh sh1t, didn’t know there was blog police n i had to do everything according to them LMFAO, this troll is hilarious
January 13th, 2013 at 3:56 pm
oakfshow Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 3:54 pm
Zone blocking sucks son,one team left soon to be none.
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LMFAO OKAY, SURE WHATEVER MAkes YOUR LIL TROLLING @SS HAPPY
January 13th, 2013 at 3:56 pm
Oakfshow Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 3:54 pm
Zone blocking sucks son,one team left soon to be none.
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??? NE uses zone as well.
January 13th, 2013 at 3:56 pm
He probably wouldn’t, Thec.
And if he did, it would be for a year or 2 until he got a HC gig.
January 13th, 2013 at 3:57 pm
morilla Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 3:56 pm
Oakfshow Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 3:54 pm
Zone blocking sucks son,one team left soon to be none.
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??? NE uses zone as well.
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HE’s just a troll and very stupid troll at that
January 13th, 2013 at 3:57 pm
This troll said 4-12,you said playoffs.Trolls win.
January 13th, 2013 at 3:57 pm
Schaub is who everyone thought he was.
January 13th, 2013 at 3:58 pm
Hindsight is 20/20 but man, I’m sure Gary Kubiak and the Texans could use Trinton Holliday these days.
Houston found him as a luxury, cut him. He goes to Denver and you know the rest.
January 13th, 2013 at 3:58 pm
Worst Raiders defense since 1961…..19fkin61 and with our first defensive HC since Madden smh… This draft will and should be heavy on defense, Both Reggie and DA being defensive guys makes it even more of a givin that we will go defense in this draft.
January 13th, 2013 at 3:58 pm
lol
January 13th, 2013 at 3:59 pm
Houston could have used Jacoby Jones in this game.
January 13th, 2013 at 4:00 pm
Pick of the litter is only going to be unemployed guys. Guys who were fired or who have there contracts expiring.
Someone’s QB coach or some OC who failed miserably somewhere else folks.
January 13th, 2013 at 4:00 pm
??? NE uses zone as well.
No they dont.Watch the fkn game son,and dont provide me with a link because I can actually watch the fkn game.
January 13th, 2013 at 4:00 pm
Classic the texaints choking again….
January 13th, 2013 at 4:01 pm
oakfshow Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 3:57 pm
This troll said 4-12,you said playoffs.Trolls win.
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SO did billions of other football fans for all their teams, LOL come on troll , qu1t being internet tough guy, just go have some beer and find something else to do, leave football talk to real football guys
January 13th, 2013 at 4:01 pm
mcxcuse20 still in here? how are your texaints doing…lol.
January 13th, 2013 at 4:02 pm
mcfool you dont know football who are you talking about?
January 13th, 2013 at 4:02 pm
little troll is calling every body son, LMFAO
January 13th, 2013 at 4:04 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 4:01 pm
mcxcuse20 still in here? how are your texaints doing…lol.
– Texain’t ain’t my team but they are atleast forcing a punt, compared to your Boy chuck bresnahan allowing FG or TD on every drive
January 13th, 2013 at 4:04 pm
Oakfshow
Here you go:
http://nflsfuture.com/2012/03/28/team-by-team-offensivedefensive-schemes/
Plus, New England beat writers have said since Josh McDaniels was hired as OC the Pats use a hybrid man/zone scheme.
January 13th, 2013 at 4:05 pm
1900.Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 4:01 pm
mcxcuse20 still in here? how are your texaints doing…lol.
He’s a stupid mthfaker.Troll is his favorite word.Real football people dont predict playoffs for a 4-12 team.What a fkn moron.
January 13th, 2013 at 4:06 pm
man i phckin hate the pats…
January 13th, 2013 at 4:06 pm
lol…4-12….playoffs? you talking about playoffs?
January 13th, 2013 at 4:06 pm
jackasspuria Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 4:04 pm
Oakfshow
Here you go:
http://nflsfuture.com/2012/03/28/team-by-team-offensivedefensive-schemes/
Plus, New England beat writers have said since Josh McDaniels was hired as OC the Pats use a hybrid man/zone scheme.
– Don’t try to prove anything to him, he’s just a troll who’s sole purpose is to irritate everyone, wouldn’t surprise me if he was Sullivan44, or some whiners fan
January 13th, 2013 at 4:07 pm
Dwayne Bowe
Streater
Ford in the slot
Palmer in the shotgun as a base offense.
DMac in the backfield.
Draft Warmack after a trade down.
Draft one of those wave of the future TEs early in rd 3.
January 13th, 2013 at 4:07 pm
oakfshow Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 4:05 pm
1900.Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 4:01 pm
mcxcuse20 still in here? how are your texaints doing…lol.
He’s a stupid mthfaker.Troll is his favorite word.Real football people dont predict playoffs for a 4-12 team.What a fkn moron.
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Lil troll is getting mad hahaha, well my plan is working, what a phag lol
January 13th, 2013 at 4:07 pm
mctroll…you worship everything donkey…thats why you wanted the raiders to be like the texaints…
January 13th, 2013 at 4:08 pm
Gary Kubiak is about to cry lol
January 13th, 2013 at 4:08 pm
texaints=chokers!!!! and this is what you wanted…lol
January 13th, 2013 at 4:09 pm
1904.jackasspuria Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 4:04 pm
Oakfshow
Here you go:
http://nflsfuture.com/2012/03/28/team-by-team-offensivedefensive-schemes/
Plus, New England beat writers have said since Josh McDaniels was hired as OC the Pats use a hybrid man/zone scheme.
I dont give a fk about beat writers.Watch the fkn game.Havent seen one zone run play yet.If zone means Brady throwing the ball 60 times then ok.its zone..Stick your links up your a$$ k.
January 13th, 2013 at 4:10 pm
1 on 1 matchups, folks.
Spread em out, see if a LB or S can play pass defense.
January 13th, 2013 at 4:10 pm
Oakfshow Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 4:00 pm
??? NE uses zone as well.
No they dont.Watch the fkn game son,and dont provide me with a link because I can actually watch the fkn game.
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I see the IQ level just dropped in here. They do use it Einstein.
January 13th, 2013 at 4:10 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 4:07 pm
mctroll…you worship everything donkey…thats why you wanted the raiders to be like the texaints…
– Everything donkey??? Are you freakin kidding with me? DA is a Raiders coach, yes he might have came from DEN, but everyone came from some where, Gruden came from phillys, your boy HUE and Chuck “man D guru” came from Bengals, n they helped the bungles out by giving away two picks
January 13th, 2013 at 4:11 pm
Oakfshow
You’re football acumen is about as impressive as Mark Davis’ haircut you dolt. They have run zone plays and if you can’t see it, you’re no better than Greg Knapp when it comes to an NFL offense.
January 13th, 2013 at 4:12 pm
JOkefoshow is about to break down, take it easy on him guys, lemme borrow beech’s line, Jokefoshow is melting down LMFAO
January 13th, 2013 at 4:12 pm
Every zone fan on this blog wears a fkn Texans jearsey.
January 13th, 2013 at 4:12 pm
Look at all these helluva defenses getting 30 plus pts put up on them.
OFFENSE OFFENSE OFFENSE!!!!!
Drafting a DE to get 1 or 2 crucial sacks per game is not going to stop top offenses from scoring 30 pts.
Fix this broken offense!!!!!
January 13th, 2013 at 4:13 pm
mcfadden20. Says: Oh sh1t, didn’t know there was blog police
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No po, just blog lice.
January 13th, 2013 at 4:14 pm
oakfshow Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 4:12 pm
Every zone fan on this blog wears a fkn Texans jearsey.
– LOL guy can’t help himself, even though the ZBS guy has been fired already, trully one of the greatest meltdown ever lol
January 13th, 2013 at 4:14 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 4:13 pm
mcfadden20. Says: Oh sh1t, didn’t know there was blog police
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No po, just blog lice.
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OH i got you but didn’t want to make the little girl sad though by calling her lice
January 13th, 2013 at 4:15 pm
Who gives a PHUCC about the ZBS vs PBS???!!!???!!!
There is not a SINGLE “running team” doing SHHYYTTT in the playoffs.
QBs are making it happen PASSING the ball.
Is there a ZBS pass blocking system???
LMFAO at this ridiculous argument.
January 13th, 2013 at 4:15 pm
1916.morilla Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 4:10 pm
Oakfshow Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 4:00 pm
??? NE uses zone as well.
No they dont.Watch the fkn game son,and dont provide me with a link because I can actually watch the fkn game.
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I see the IQ level just dropped in here. They do use it Einstein.
Hey you stupid little fk.Watch closer.Twice a game doesnt make them a true zoneblocking team.Shut up.
January 13th, 2013 at 4:16 pm
J Hill Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 4:12 pm
Look at all these helluva defenses getting 30 plus pts put up on them.
OFFENSE OFFENSE OFFENSE!!!!!
Drafting a DE to get 1 or 2 crucial sacks per game is not going to stop top offenses from scoring 30 pts.
Fix this broken offense!!!!!
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That’s true but you still should be able to make the other team punt here and there and not allow them to score 55 points
January 13th, 2013 at 4:17 pm
Thec Says:
January 13th, 2013 at 3:39 pm
When the pats are on the offense, I bet they never turn Brady’s mic and headset off..
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You’re saying they cheat, and that the NFL is in on it?