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Raiders interview Martz for off. coord. vacancy

The Raiders interviewed Mike Martz for their offensive coordinator vacancy in an attempt to find an upgrade over the fired Greg Knapp, a person familiar with the situation said.
They also spoke with Juan Castillo about the prospect of taking over for fired offensive line coach Frank Pollack.
To this point, the Raiders have not released any information about their search for replacements for Knapp, Pollack, special teams coordinator Steve Hoffman and linebackers coach Johnny Holland.
All four were fired the day after the Raiders completed a 4-12 season, their 10th straight season without a winning record.
Martz last worked in the league as the Chicago Bears offensive coordinator in 2011. He was fired after a two-year stint. He was the 49ers offensive coordinator in 2008 and served in the same capacity for the Detroit Lions in 2006-07.
Raiders coach Dennis Allen said in his year-end news conference that he isn’t in a hurry to find an offensive coordinator.
“I don’t have a time frame for getting somebody in,” Allen said. “I want to make sure we get the right guy, and however long that takes for us to get the right guy, that’s how long that that takes.”
Allen also said he isn’t averse to working with an offensive coordinator that has experience as a head coach. Martz coached the Rams from 2000-05 and solidified his reputation as a guy that can get the most out of his offense.
“I’ll be comfortable with a guy I feel like gives us the best chance to be successful in all areas,” Allen said.
Under Knapp this season, the Raiders struggled establishing a consistent running attack and scoring points.
Pollack and Knapp came under fire for their implementation of the zone-blocking scheme upon their arrival last offseason.
Castillo was the Eagles offensive line coach for 13 seasons before then-coach Andy Reid promoted him to defensive coordinator before the 2011 season. The move backfired and resulted in the Eagles firing Castillo in October of this season.

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  • dr_robert

    Priesttj12 Says:
    January 14th, 2013 at 11:29 pm
    Stats are for Ninkumputz
    **************

    good Lord.

  • Priesttj12

    Priesttj12 Says:
    January 15th, 2013 at 12:44 am
    Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
    January 14th, 2013 at 11:58 pm
    This word press crap makes it hard to post graphical info. Here we go.(I think)
    1st game(half game) on day 5 with Raiders.
    Here’s his second and third ‘horrible’ games. Do you see you credibility issue, Priest?

    —-Comp–Att–Yds–Y/A–Lng–Int–TD
    Den-19—-35—332–9.5–40—3—-3
    SD–14—-20—299–15.0-55—1—-2
    ************************************
    What credibility issues you moron he threw 5 TD and 7 ints as I said he is a 10 year vet and he struggled with t/o’s like crazy thrwoing into coverage and making big mistakes on chemistry with rec’s so where’s the credibility issue you fruitloop

    *********************************************
    This guy talks like Palmer threw for 10 TD’s 0 ints and 1500 yards. He strugglinged badly and for good reason. He should’ve thrown more ints but as I remember they drop[ed about 3 of them. It’s im possible to have greta chemistry on your first start no matter who you are.

  • dr_robert

    Priesttj12 Says:
    January 14th, 2013 at 11:41 pm
    Go away son you bother me……
    ***********

    too many facts

  • dr_robert

    Priesttj12 Says:
    January 14th, 2013 at 11:42 pm
    There is no way in hell this is a 4-12 team with a QB like Palmer if he is on point. No freakin way…..
    *********

    so u know he’s good. but the team loses and ur solution isn’t to upgrade those around ur good qb. it’s to dump the good qb.

    fascinating.

  • dr_robert

    RaidO Says:
    January 14th, 2013 at 11:45 pm
    Alex7 Says:
    January 14th, 2013 at 11:41 pm
    to think that Russell Wilson gets a LOSS pinned on him after breaking records Saturday just because his team blew a lead with 30 SECONDS LEFT AND 50 YARDS TO DEFEND…

    is just so, so, so nonsensical.

    No modern-day GM running an NFL team thinks like that.
    —————————-

    Stop making stuff up. People blamed Carroll for going for it on 4th down and trying to ice the kicker. Bad coaching
    *********

    no. wilson lost. he sucks.

  • dr_robert

    RaidO Says:
    January 14th, 2013 at 11:49 pm
    Raidertalk Says:
    January 14th, 2013 at 11:45 pm
    Priesttj12 Says:
    January 14th, 2013 at 11:16 pm
    Lefty12, We don’t HAVE TIME or him to SIT and learn anymore we can’t win games. Don’t you get it if Palmer were winning games NO ONE WOULD BE COMPLAINING!!!

    WE went 4-12 with him making 11mill we ca go 4-12 with Pryor learning why wait and lose when we can get started and win………..what about that don’t you get?
    ——————————————————-
    I agree with this statement in theory, buts its been 2 years and Pryor, according all reports, has not improved his throwing motion in any way. Pryor does not need to be on the field to work on his throwing motion. He could have worked on it on his own. That is on him.
    ————————

    Funny you say that becomes NOBODY was talking about Pryor’s throwing motion. No sports analyst, announcers, etc, etc, etc. They have talked about making certain throws but overall the talk about Pryor was positive.
    *********

    so funny u don’t hear the reality. they basically say they’re pleasantly surprised. that means they thought he would suck so bad, it would be embarrassing. they never said he was good. never said he will be good. they said they were pleasantly surprised. think about it.

  • dr_robert

    REALLIONAIREB Says:
    January 14th, 2013 at 11:53 pm
    Alex7 Says:
    January 14th, 2013 at 11:43 pm
    real

    you aren’t even logically defending your thoughts.

    You’re switching conversations.

    No one said Stats are PREFERRED to wins.

    YOU SAID WINS MAKE A QB BETTER. Knucklehead.

    ———————-

    I said Qb’s are judge on wins and losses!!! Now where did I state “WINS MAKE A QB BETTER”???

    And good choice of words on the name calling!
    *********

    so wilson lost then. he must suck cuz he can’t get the win.

  • Priesttj12

    Palmer goes 4-12 and they want everybody to kiss his damn feet, He threw for 4,000 yards as if that’s hard nowadays Cam dd it as a rookie and they wnat to pina medal on Palmer.

  • dr_robert

    Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
    January 15th, 2013 at 12:03 am
    Miss PriestRaiDebO? Trying to condense mistic, priest, raido and debo to save time since they’re in lockstep on everything.
    **********

    idiot will suffice

  • dr_robert

    RaidO Says:
    January 15th, 2013 at 12:15 am
    Alex7 Says:
    January 15th, 2013 at 12:11 am
    lol RaidO getting OWNED

    putting up weak youtube kid stuff while I enlighten the blog with NY Times and NFL.com proof.

    Math has taken over. Your eyes are connected to your heart and deceive you. Just embrace the reality. You cant argue with WHAT’S ACTUALLY GOING ON IN FRONT OFFICES EVERYTHING that happened is measurable. The rest is just fan hot air. night all.
    ——————-

    What the hell are you talking? We were talking about “throwing motion”. NOBODY was talking about TP’s throwing motion after the chargers game.
    **********

    i couldn’t care less about his motion. he could throw it underhand for i care, as long as he completed a high percentage and the throws looked god.

    but they don’t and he doesn’t.

  • dr_robert

    RockinRaider Says:
    January 15th, 2013 at 12:25 am
    Ok, update.
    Everyone accepts CP is better than TP, right? (yah yah, we got it, Tp’S first game, )

    Team was 4-12, right?

    I missed the part where putting in a qb who’s worse than the starter is going to help the 4-12 team?

    OH…WAIT…I GOT IT…TP’s presence makes the D tackle better? Well, why didn’t you say so?
    ***********

    but pryor is a “winner”. oh wait. never mind.

  • REALLIONAIREB

    Dr_robert Says:
    January 15th, 2013 at 12:43 am
    REALLIONAIREB Says:
    January 14th, 2013 at 11:24 pm
    NewsFlash….

    Qb’s are judge by wins and losses!!!!

    Not sayin it’s fair,but it just how it is!!!
    ***********

    by fans. not real football people.

    ———————-

    Doc what’s the difference between fans and “real football people”

    Only difference I see is they get paid to voice they’re opinion!!!

    When I say wins and losses that means regular season and postseason!!!

  • dr_robert

    Priesttj12 Says:
    January 15th, 2013 at 12:44 am
    Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
    January 14th, 2013 at 11:58 pm
    This word press crap makes it hard to post graphical info. Here we go.(I think)
    1st game(half game) on day 5 with Raiders.
    Here’s his second and third ‘horrible’ games. Do you see you credibility issue, Priest?

    —-Comp–Att–Yds–Y/A–Lng–Int–TD
    Den-19—-35—332–9.5–40—3—-3
    SD–14—-20—299–15.0-55—1—-2
    ************************************
    What credibility issues you moron he threw 5 TD and 7 ints as I said he is a 10 year vet and he struggled with t/o’s like crazy thrwoing into coverage and making big mistakes on chemistry with rec’s so where’s the credibility issue you fruitloop.
    *****************

    22 td’s 14 int’s

    red zone troubles? turnovers like crazy?

    hmm. i’m not really seeing it.

  • dr_robert

    Priesttj12 Says:
    January 15th, 2013 at 12:55 am
    Palmer goes 4-12 and they want everybody to kiss his damn feet, He threw for 4,000 yards as if that’s hard nowadays Cam dd it as a rookie and they wnat to pina medal on Palmer.
    ***********

    missdick wants to suck newton’s cock.

    and only 11 qb’s did it this year. no new wavers though.

  • REALLIONAIREB

    Dr_robert Says:
    January 15th, 2013 at 12:53 am
    REALLIONAIREB Says:
    January 14th, 2013 at 11:53 pm
    Alex7 Says:
    January 14th, 2013 at 11:43 pm
    real

    you aren’t even logically defending your thoughts.

    You’re switching conversations.

    No one said Stats are PREFERRED to wins.

    YOU SAID WINS MAKE A QB BETTER. Knucklehead.

    ———————-

    I said Qb’s are judge on wins and losses!!! Now where did I state “WINS MAKE A QB BETTER”???

    And good choice of words on the name calling!
    *********

    so wilson lost then. he must suck cuz he can’t get the win.

    ————————–

    So are narrowing down to last week game doc or are we going off of every nfl game he has played in???

    I want to be on the same page here…make no sense debating to different points!!!

  • dr_robert

    REALLIONAIREB Says:
    January 15th, 2013 at 1:00 am
    Dr_robert Says:
    January 15th, 2013 at 12:43 am
    REALLIONAIREB Says:
    January 14th, 2013 at 11:24 pm
    NewsFlash….

    Qb’s are judge by wins and losses!!!!

    Not sayin it’s fair,but it just how it is!!!
    ***********

    by fans. not real football people.

    ———————-

    Doc what’s the difference between fans and “real football people”

    Only difference I see is they get paid to voice they’re opinion!!!

    When I say wins and losses that means regular season and postseason!!!
    *************

    the only difference u see between say, priest, and a gm, is the gm gets paid?

    really? u really think that?

  • dr_robert

    realionaireb—pinning wins and losses on qb’s is for dumb fans and housewives. teams win and lose. palmer had a few poor picks. but mostly, he should be considered heroic for doing what he did with no running game and possibly the worst receiving corps in the nfl.

    the obvious answer—stay with me here—is to upgrade all the sh!tty players around him and let him shine.

    have u ever heard of the saying “u don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater”?

    do u know what that means? it means throw the dirty bath water out but don’t throw away ur priceless baby with it just cuz the water is dirty.

  • Twinkle

    It is this simple…….Guts are what it’s about….You ain’t got em you ain’t gonna get em.!!!

  • REALLIONAIREB

    Dr_robert Says:
    January 15th, 2013 at 1:06 am
    REALLIONAIREB Says:
    January 15th, 2013 at 1:00 am
    Dr_robert Says:
    January 15th, 2013 at 12:43 am
    REALLIONAIREB Says:
    January 14th, 2013 at 11:24 pm
    NewsFlash….

    Qb’s are judge by wins and losses!!!!

    Not sayin it’s fair,but it just how it is!!!
    ***********

    by fans. not real football people.

    ———————-

    Doc what’s the difference between fans and “real football people”

    Only difference I see is they get paid to voice they’re opinion!!!

    When I say wins and losses that means regular season and postseason!!!
    *************

    the only difference u see between say, priest, and a gm, is the gm gets paid?

    really? u really think that?

    —————————————-

    I don’t know the guy priest

    But their are some Gm who get that job and suck at it that’s why the get fired if you have been around football long enough it’s not hard to evaluate talent if this what we are talkin about,there was one Gm said Jamarcus Russell and I set in front my Tv and said Please take Calvin Johnson ….now I won’t sit here and say I cld manage the salary cap but far as evaluating talent there’s really not a difference because some time Gm make bad judgement and I’m sure priest can do that and priest has probably wanted the raiders to draft a player he thought we be good and they turn out to be good….so if we’re talking bout evaluating talent yes that is the only difference!!!

  • dr_robert

    REALLIONAIREB Says:
    January 15th, 2013 at 1:24 am
    Dr_robert Says:
    January 15th, 2013 at 1:06 am
    REALLIONAIREB Says:
    January 15th, 2013 at 1:00 am
    Dr_robert Says:
    January 15th, 2013 at 12:43 am
    REALLIONAIREB Says:
    January 14th, 2013 at 11:24 pm
    NewsFlash….

    Qb’s are judge by wins and losses!!!!

    Not sayin it’s fair,but it just how it is!!!
    ***********

    by fans. not real football people.

    ———————-

    Doc what’s the difference between fans and “real football people”

    Only difference I see is they get paid to voice they’re opinion!!!

    When I say wins and losses that means regular season and postseason!!!
    *************

    the only difference u see between say, priest, and a gm, is the gm gets paid?

    really? u really think that?

    —————————————-

    I don’t know the guy priest

    But their are some Gm who get that job and suck at it that’s why the get fired if you have been around football long enough it’s not hard to evaluate talent if this what we are talkin about,there was one Gm said Jamarcus Russell and I set in front my Tv and said Please take Calvin Johnson ….now I won’t sit here and say I cld manage the salary cap but far as evaluating talent there’s really not a difference because some time Gm make bad judgement and I’m sure priest can do that and priest has probably wanted the raiders to draft a player he thought we be good and they turn out to be good….so if we’re talking bout evaluating talent yes that is the only difference!!!
    *************

    how about the pros are BETTER at it. WAY better.

  • mcfadden20.

    It’s a freakin team game, you can make cases like Peyton and Brady are two of the best in this game at what to do , but what if Peyton didn’t have the same system all his life, what if Brady wasn’t playing with a genius like Belichick who prepares his team really good and the game planning is really well, how much difference would Palmer and Brady have in them if they switched places, would Pats still be in playoffs? i think so , would the Raiders been in playoffs if they had brady, coached by knapp and worthless receivers to throw to , and worst special teams in the league, and pretty bad D? just think about it, it’s a team game, man, you don’t f8cking get rid of your good links if your record s9cks , you try to improve on your bad spots n build around the good parts to make the team special, changing the good part and putting in unproven guy at that spot and keeping the same guys at the other spots isn’t going to change sh1t, just putting P Manning there instead of Palmer wasn’t going to change all that,if the coaching staff and rest of the team is same, ya dig? it’s a team game, Palmer is good enough to win, we need to build around him

  • REALLIONAIREB

    Dr_robert Says:
    January 15th, 2013 at 1:10 am
    realionaireb—pinning wins and losses on qb’s is for dumb fans and housewives. teams win and lose. palmer had a few poor picks. but mostly, he should be considered heroic for doing what he did with no running game and possibly the worst receiving corps in the nfl.

    the obvious answer—stay with me here—is to upgrade all the sh!tty players around him and let him shine.

    have u ever heard of the saying “u don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater”?

    do u know what that means? it means throw the dirty bath water out but don’t throw away ur priceless baby with it just cuz the water is dirty.

    ———————————–

    I didn’t start this its been this way long before you and I been around yes it’s a team game Off,Def,and ST but if you ask any Qb about playin Qb they wld say its the most glorified position in all of team sports and the praise and criticism comes with playing that position I have heard Palmer speak on this subject numerous times this year…and I gave the entire offence a pass this year under Knapp!!!

  • dr_robert

    it’s just a good thing that these people don’t make the decisions. the clowns here are just talking. it’s easy to get frustrated with them. but really who cares? real fans with any intelligence know that palmer will be the qb and pryor stands very little chance of ever being an actual qb in the nfl. i mean it would be cool if he was, and i would cheer him on, but reality is that he likely won’t. so, i just hope reggie gets some good things done and we can look forward to a decent to good season. and hopefully, we will get our qb of the future in this draft or the next one.

    i do think we might draft a qb in the later rounds.

  • mcfadden20.

    Pr1est and M1st1c and all the other same clowns or worshippers of Wave of future have obvious agenda when it comes to Palmer, magnify every one of his miscue, even count his near int’s but not even a mention of all the dropped TD’s in the end zone, all the plays that could have gone for long tds if not for our s8cky receivers, all the int’s that were direct result of receiver running a wrong route, or the Oline not giving him enough time where Palmer could find this unreliable receivers open and where he has to make a play because team is coming from behind , n dumping it down to rb isn’t an option, it’s funny how M1st1c mentioned how much our receivers s8ck when Pryor played , not even a freakin bleep mention of how much they s9ck when Palmer started 15 games, h3 always said oh they are awesome etc, te is awesome, Oline is awesome, running game is direct result of people not respecting palmers arm so they load up and then go onto say teams respected Jason Campbells arm which is why we had success running the ball so much last 2 years, we are talking about a guy who freakin is looking to dumpoff even in the final drive on every play when they have to score a TD, he likes to make us believe it was because of Campbell we won, his measily 150 yards per game were the reason we won 8 games lol

  • REALLIONAIREB

    Dr_robert Says:
    January 15th, 2013 at 1:29 am
    REALLIONAIREB Says:
    January 15th, 2013 at 1:24 am
    Dr_robert Says:
    January 15th, 2013 at 1:06 am
    REALLIONAIREB Says:
    January 15th, 2013 at 1:00 am
    Dr_robert Says:
    January 15th, 2013 at 12:43 am
    REALLIONAIREB Says:
    January 14th, 2013 at 11:24 pm
    NewsFlash….

    Qb’s are judge by wins and losses!!!!

    Not sayin it’s fair,but it just how it is!!!
    ***********

    by fans. not real football people.

    ———————-

    Doc what’s the difference between fans and “real football people”

    Only difference I see is they get paid to voice they’re opinion!!!

    When I say wins and losses that means regular season and postseason!!!
    *************

    the only difference u see between say, priest, and a gm, is the gm gets paid?

    really? u really think that?

    —————————————-

    I don’t know the guy priest

    But their are some Gm who get that job and suck at it that’s why the get fired if you have been around football long enough it’s not hard to evaluate talent if this what we are talkin about,there was one Gm said Jamarcus Russell and I set in front my Tv and said Please take Calvin Johnson ….now I won’t sit here and say I cld manage the salary cap but far as evaluating talent there’s really not a difference because some time Gm make bad judgement and I’m sure priest can do that and priest has probably wanted the raiders to draft a player he thought we be good and they turn out to be good….so if we’re talking bout evaluating talent yes that is the only difference!!!
    *************

    how about the pros are BETTER at it. WAY better.

    ————————-

    That’s an opinion that you are entitled to….

    Can we give priest a Gm job and see how he does against 31 other Gms???

    So til then all we have is an opinion about it Doc!!!

  • dr_robert

    REALLIONAIREB Says:
    January 15th, 2013 at 1:35 am
    Dr_robert Says:
    January 15th, 2013 at 1:10 am
    realionaireb—pinning wins and losses on qb’s is for dumb fans and housewives. teams win and lose. palmer had a few poor picks. but mostly, he should be considered heroic for doing what he did with no running game and possibly the worst receiving corps in the nfl.

    the obvious answer—stay with me here—is to upgrade all the sh!tty players around him and let him shine.

    have u ever heard of the saying “u don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater”?

    do u know what that means? it means throw the dirty bath water out but don’t throw away ur priceless baby with it just cuz the water is dirty.

    ———————————–

    I didn’t start this its been this way long before you and I been around yes it’s a team game Off,Def,and ST but if you ask any Qb about playin Qb they wld say its the most glorified position in all of team sports and the praise and criticism comes with playing that position I have heard Palmer speak on this subject numerous times this year…and I gave the entire offence a pass this year under Knapp!!!
    ********

    yes. we know it. the players and coaches know it. but they usually nod about the fact fans put too much credit and blame on them, smile, and go back to practice, cuz the players and coaches deal with reality. they are required to talk about things for the fans cuz it’s a business. but most players and coaches think fans are dumb. and they’re pretty much correct. they know the game on a level fans will never comprehend.

    this is why any real nfl person would laugh at these guys for suggesting palmer sucks and pryor is anywhere close to being ready to start, or will likely ever be.

    they know.

  • dr_robert

    REALLIONAIREB Says:
    January 15th, 2013 at 1:40 am

    That’s an opinion that you are entitled to….

    Can we give priest a Gm job and see how he does against 31 other Gms???

    So til then all we have is an opinion about it Doc!!!

    ***********

    well, sure i guess. but sometimes u have to be able to tell when someone doesn’t know what they’re talking about. that’s called using ur intelligence to figure who knows and who doesn’t. it’s pretty well accepted that professionals get to where they are cuz they are better and more educated about their profession than lay people.

    would u let priest operate on u cuz he deserves a chance to show he can do it?

  • dr_robert

    i’m out guys. later.

  • REALLIONAIREB

    It goes with the position no one knows how good Palmer will be next season no one knows what kinda player TP will be 5 years from now we can make our speculations and have our opinion but still after that we have to sit back and watch how it unfold!!!

    I hope Palmer has a career season next year and I hope TP becomes I QB of the future!!!!

    And ya wanna know why???

    Because as off today they both wear Sliver&Black

    RAIDERS!!!

    OneNation!!!!

    UndaGod!!!

  • REALLIONAIREB

    Dr_robert Says:
    January 15th, 2013 at 1:45 am
    REALLIONAIREB Says:
    January 15th, 2013 at 1:40 am

    That’s an opinion that you are entitled to….

    Can we give priest a Gm job and see how he does against 31 other Gms???

    So til then all we have is an opinion about it Doc!!!

    ***********

    well, sure i guess. but sometimes u have to be able to tell when someone doesn’t know what they’re talking about. that’s called using ur intelligence to figure who knows and who doesn’t. it’s pretty well accepted that professionals get to where they are cuz they are better and more educated about their profession than lay people.

    would u let priest operate on u cuz he deserves a chance to show he can do it?
    —————————

    Well you need to go to school and have a Phd to operate on somebody…I don’t think there is a college course for becoming a GM mostly they come recommended by ppl who been in or apart of the league for years!!!

  • http://ggeden.blogspot.com/ GG

    Week 17 starting QB by draft position

    1st Round
    Sam Bradford (1) Andrew Luck (1) Eli Manning (1) Peyton Manning (1) Cam Newton (1) Matthew Stafford (1) Michael Vick (1) Robert Griffin III (2) Matt Ryan (3) Philip Rivers (4) Mark Sanchez (5) Jake Locker (8) Ryan Tannehill (8) Jay Cutler (11) Ben Roethlisberger (11) Christian Ponder (12) Josh Freeman (17) Joe Flacco (18) Brady Quinn (22) Aaron Rodgers (24)

    2nd Round
    Drew Brees (32) Andy Dalton (35) Colin Kaepernick (36) Chad Henne (57)

    3rd Round
    Russell Wilson (75) Matt Shuab (90)

    6th Round
    Tom Brady (199)

    7th Round
    Ryan Fitzpatrick (250)

    Undrafted Free Agent
    Brian Hoyer, Thaddeus Lewis, Tony Romo

    Supplemental Draft
    Terrelle Pryor

    20 of the 32 starting QBs taken in the 1st. 7 of the 20 #1 overall. 13 of the 32 are top 10 picks

  • http://ggeden.blogspot.com/ GG

    From that list

    Won a SB:
    Eli Manning, Peyton Manning, Ben Roethlisberger, Aaron Rodgers (all 1st rounders)….Drew Brees (2nd rounder)…Tom Brady (6th rounder)

    Total 20 1st rounders, number of 1st round SB winning QBs (4) or total SB wins (6). Ie, 1 in 5 1st rounders wins a SB (of the current crop)

    Total 12 non-1st rounders, number of non-1st round SB winning QBs (2) or total SB wins (4). Ie, 1 in 6 non-1st rounders win a SB (of the current crop).

    If Ryan or Flacco win this year…more 1st rounders adding to the list which will make it 1 in 4.

    If Kaepernick wins this year…another added to the non-1st list which will make it 1 in 4.

    Statistically speaking, not much difference where you draft a QB in the end :P

  • RaiderRockstar

    so… what will happen to the Seahawks if OC Darrell Bevell gets the Bears HC job and DC Gus Bradley gets the Eagles or Jaguars HC job ??

    will they crumble, or will we not even notice they’re gone?

  • RaiderRockstar

    it would be funny if the Eagles ended up with Ken Whisenhunt or Brian Billick after being shunned by all those other “hot” coaches

    and yes – i’m still begging Sandy Eggo to make Hue Jackson HC!!

  • RaiderRockstar

    draft Alabama guard Chance Warmack !!

  • RaiderRockstar

    1. Kansas City Chiefs

    2. Jacksonville Jaguars

    3. Oakland Raiders

    4. Philadelphia Eagles

    5. Detroit Lions

    6. Cleveland Browns

    7. Arizona Cardinals

    8. Buffalo Bills

    9. New York Jets

    10. Tennessee Titans

    ***

    In this year’s draft, West Virginia’s Geno Smith and USC’s Matt Barkley are generally viewed as the top quarterbacks

    where are they going??

  • RaiderRockstar

    11. San Diego Chargers

    12. Miami Dolphins

    13. Tampa Bay Buccaneers

    14. Carolina Panthers

    15. New Orleans Saints

    16. St. Louis Rams

    17. Pittsburgh Steelers

    18. Dallas Cowboys

    19. New York Giants

    20. Chicago Bears

    ***

    none of these teams will draft a QB!

    are the Jags, Browns & Titans ready to give up on Gabbert, Weeden & Locker? probably not

    Stafford isn’t going anywhere. Raiders & Eagles have some young prospects in Pryor & Foles but neither is considered a “franchise” guy yet.

    I can see almost all of these teams dumping vets like Cassel, Henne, Palmer, Vick, McCoy, Kolb, Fitzpatrick, Sanchez & Hasselbeck – but maybe half of them actually do this offseason (the other half get dumped NEXT offseason, while another young QB is groomed in the meantime)

  • oklahomaRaider18

    Can we get a new post!!!!

  • http://ggeden.blogspot.com/ GG

    Chiefs will draft best player available, not reach for a quarterback

    New Chiefs General Manager John Dorsey says he wants to select the best player available with the first overall pick in this year’s NFL draft, and that he won’t address a specific need at quarterback — or any other position.

    Dorsey says he expects the next three months to be full of questions about how the Chiefs can find a difference-making player with the first pick, but all he can do is examine everyone and take the best football player.

    “We all know there is some pressure involved,” Dorsey said, via the Kansas City Star. “You make the right pick by choosing the best player available. I know of no other philosophy.”

    The other philosophy is that if you’re a quarterback-needy team (as the Chiefs are), you take a quarterback and hope he can develop into a franchise savior. But Dorsey doesn’t seem inclined to do that.

    In this year’s draft, West Virginia’s Geno Smith and USC’s Matt Barkley are generally viewed as the top quarterbacks. But Smith and Barkley are not the kind of elite prospects that Andrew Luck and Robert Griffin III were a year ago. If the Chiefs are going to take the best player regardless of position, they’d be more likely to take Texas A&M left tackle Luke Joeckel, Utah defensive tackle Star Lotulelei, Texas A&M defensive end Damontre Moore, Alabama guard Chance Warmack or LSU defensive end Barkevious Mingo.

    At least, right now it looks like one of those players would be the best player available. Sometimes in the pre-draft process, teams convince themselves that the best player available is a quarterback.

  • RaiderRockstar

    bounty scandal question:

    so for the Saints, this upcoming year it will be business as usual with Loomis/Peyton/Vitt plus the players involved such as Vilma, etc

    what about Gregg Williams??

    I mean, the whole thing was a joke. Everybody not named Goodell thinks so anyways. Is he still suspended indefinately?

    I think GW should be invited back and I think he should be our LB Coach!

    nobody is gonna make him DC right off the bat after having his name smeared in the mud like that … the obvious connection to Dennis Allen might help?

  • RaiderRockstar

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000121156/article/blake-williams-off-rams-staff-gregg-williams-too

    see?

    plus you know the Rams are going to hire Rob Ryan, Lovie Smith or Romeo Crennel for DC!

  • http://ggeden.blogspot.com/ GG

    No matter how things work out, McKenzie and company have important draft decisions to make. With that in mind, I finally had a reason to delve into my Raiders’ Media Guide and remind myself who on the player personnel staff is responsible for college scouting.

    JOEY CLINKSCALES.

    Clinkscales holds the title: Player Personnel Director. He also happens to be a lifelong friend of Reggie McKenzie; The two were teammates in high school, as well as college. However that doesn’t mean that he’s not qualified. Clinkscales is a former player; He was a wide receiver for the Steelers, as well as the Buccaneers (1987-1988). Clinkscales began his off the field career as a part time scout for the Steelers (1989-1993).

    After leaving Pittsburgh Clinkscales worked his way up the ladder with the New York Jets; Where he spent the last 17 seasons before joining Reggie in Oakland. Clinkscales, before becoming vice president of college scouting first served as a southeast region scout for the Jets. In 2002 he was promoted to National Scout. As a member of the Jets organization Clinkscales was charged with overseeing the teams entire college scouting operation (including their preparations for the NFL Draft).

    SHAUN HEROCK.

    Herock holds the title: Director of College Scouting; Which was the title he held in Green Bay for the past 11 seasons. Shaun also happens to be a Raider Legacy; Herock’s father, Ken Herock is a former Raider player. Moreover, he (Ken Herock) also served Oakland in the personnel department. Furthermore, he’s said to have played an important role in building Oakland’s Super Bowl XI championship team; He’s also worked with Ron Wolfe when the Bucs entered the league during expansion.

    Therefore, it would appear that Shaun has been groomed from childhood to serve in a scouting/personnel capacity for the NFL; He’s been doing this for 25 years. The former Raider ball boy, and Atlanta Falcon player (1989-1992) began his off the field career as a summer intern in the scouting department of the Green Bay Packers; Where he spent 18 years working with Reggie McKenzie. In 1994 the summer intern became a full time scout for the Packers, and the rest is history.

    TEDDY ATLAS.

    (Well, the kids got a great name – if that counts for anything) 2012 saw Atlas in his first year as a Scouting Coordinator (making him yet another rookie in personnel that Raider Nation has to deal with). Before joining Oakland in 2011 he was a football operations/personnel assistant for the Cleveland Browns. Atlas began his career in 2008 as an intern in the player personnel department of the New York Jets.

    CALVIN BRANCH.

    (Yes, that Calvin Branch) The former Raider (1997-2001, 2005) Has some interesting aspects to his background; After spending 2001 in Oakland Calvin spent 2002 playing in NFL Europe. In 2003 Branch joined the Raiders player personnel staff. However, after spending the 2004 season with the Raiders, as a member of the front office Branch made his return to the field; Where he spent the 2005 season. After hanging up the cleats Branch settled in as a member of the Oakland Raiders college scouting staff.

    ZACK CROCKETT.

    (Yes, that Zack Crockett) The former Raider fullback (1999-2006) has spent the last four seasons in Oakland as a member of the franchise’s player personnel staff. Zack scouts the southeastern region of the NCAA. The southeastern region is comprised of: Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, LSU, Mississippi State, Missouri, Ole Miss, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas A&M, & Vanderbilt.

    MICKEY MARVIN.

    The name Mickey Marvin should be very familiar to Raider Nation. The Man after all has been a member of the franchise for over 30 years; Which means only one thing: The man is a RAIDER; However, for the purposes of my article we’ll chronicle some of his bio information. Currently Marvin is listed as a college scout for Oakland. Mickey was selected by the Raiders in the fourth round of the 1997 draft. During the 11 seasons he wore Silver & Black he was a dominate offensive linemen, and member of the Raiders championship teams of Super Bowls XV and XVIII.

    DAVID McCLOUGHAN.

    McCloughan should also be considered as a Raider Legacy; David is the son of former Raider defensive back, and scout Kent McCloughan; Kent played for Oakland 1965-1969, and along with Willie Brown was a master of the “Bump & Run” style. David originally worked for the Raiders personnel department from 1996-2004, and returned to the team in 2011. During his time away from Oakland McCloughan worked as the director of college scouting for San Francisco.

    RALEIGH McKENZIE.

    As Raider Nation is aware, Raleigh is the brother of Reggie McKenzie. Raleigh is an NFL veteran; Having played for the Green Bay Packers, San Diego Chargers, the Philadelphia Eagles, and on the championship teams of the Washington Redskins (Super Bowls XXII and XXVI).

    TREY SCOTT.

    Trey is in his first year of scouting for the Oakland Raiders; He spent last season in the player personnel department of the Washington Redskins. Trey is the scout of the Midwest region; Which is comprised of: Michigan, Illinois, Wisconsin, Indiana, and Ohio.

    BRAD KAPLAN.

    Kaplan has spend the last five seasons in Oakland. A business graduate from Cal Poly Kaplan’s role has been to assist the Raiders as a member of their personnel department. His current duty is to scout the west coast area for the Raiders.

    END GAME.

    For this article I’ve only listed the men who are responsible for scouting the college ranks; Since we’re going to be looking at draft picks shortly I thought it might be helpful to take a glance at these men. Hopefully based upon where these gentleman have worked in the past, the decisions they’ve made, players drafted, and how those teams have fared, Raider Nation can get some idea as to what will happen to our beloved Raiders.

  • http://ggeden.blogspot.com/ GG
  • bcz24

    are the Jags, Browns & Titans ready to give up on Gabbert, Weeden & Locker? probably not
    ****
    The Jags already gave up on Gabbert.

    This sucks by the way. I am heading back to the previous entry, it is just to hard to comment here when there is over 3000 posts.

  • http://ggeden.blogspot.com/ GG

    http://raidernationtimes.com/article.php?id=9551

    What Are the Oakland Raiders Real Needs for 2013?

    John Doublin – Jan 14, 2013

    As the post-season rolls along, devoid of Silver and Black representation, the business of rebuilding the Oakland Raiders’ roster is at hand. The coaching staff will head up one of the Senior Bowl teams, and the scouts are spread throughout the country and reporting back to general manager Reggie McKenzie.

    In light of this, the questions become: What positions are the Raiders’ scouts look for as a whole, and which positions are atop the priorities list for the Raiders?

    Priority number one: Pass Defense.

    The single most glaring weakness of the 2012 Raiders was a horrible pass defense. The reason for this was two fold: No pass rush and a lack of talent and depth in the secondary.

    The pass rush and secondary work in tandem to create a good pass defense. The pass rush needs to pressure the quarterback to force quick decisions and bad throws, and the secondary needs to cover for as long as possible to create time for the pass rush to get home.

    Oakland could do neither with any consistency in 2012.

    Constantly, fans watched teams convert 3rd and more than 10 yards against Oakland with relative ease. Wide open receivers and an opposing quarterback being allowed to stand in the pocket for what felt like hours led to Oakland surrendering big plays and massive amounts of points.

    The 2012 Raiders allowed more points than any previous Raider team in history, giving up 27.7 per game.

    To remedy this, McKenzie and the Raiders’ scouts need to put a premium on both pass rushers who can win their one-on-one battles and apply pressure, as well as defensive backs who can cover with consistency and make plays on the ball.

    Don’t be surprised if the Raiders’ first three or four picks in the 2013 NFL Draft address these two positions, almost exclusively. Which position is drafted first will come down to the grades assigned to the potential players by scouts. In other words, the best player available at these two positions will be taken first.

    If Oakland sticks with a 4-3 base defense, it will mean defensive ends and cornerbacks, but if the Raiders make the switch to the 3-4, it will mean outside, “elephant” linebackers and cornerbacks.

    Either way, it would be a shock if McKenzie doesn’t take one or both of these positions very early in the draft. He could also target these spots in the free agent signing period.

    Priority number two: Inside Linebacker.

    It’s no secret that Rolando McClain has failed to live up to his potential…or his salary. Constant trouble with the law, shouting matches with head coach Dennis Allen, and remarks like, “I have four million reasons not to care,” referring to his salary all led to McClain being suspended for the last two games of the year.

    It’s not likely he will return in 2013, which would leave a hole at the “Mike” linebacker spot.

    To fill this void, the Raiders signed Omar Gaither from the waiver wire, and he came in and played pretty darn well. However, he’ll be 29 years old next season, and is closing in on the end of his career.

    This is the perfect time to draft the “Middle linebacker of the future,” so he can be groomed and coached-up for the next season or two while Gaither continues to play out his career. Getting a good young player at this spot now will provide some much needed depth as well.

    There are a lot of quality inside linebackers in this year’s draft, and with the needs at pass rusher and defensive back, McKenzie could be forced to pass on the high-profile player, like Notre Dame’s Mantei Te’o, and lock in on a lesser-known player later in the draft.

    Whenever it happens, count on McKenzie taking an inside linebacker at some point of the draft or free agent period.

    Priority number three: Right Tackle.

    Khalif Barnes is not what he was billed to be when he signed as a free agent to start the 2009 season. Injuries and penalties have marred his time in Oakland and leaves the Raiders with a severe need at right tackle.

    With Willie Smith having failed miserably in his shot at the starting lineup, McKenzie will need to find a player who can start on the right side immediately, or go with Barnes for one more year. After witnessing all the holding and false start penalties this year and last, it’s not likely McKenzie is willing to roll with Barnes one more second, much less another whole season.

    Look for the Raiders to go after some unknown tackles in both the draft and the free agent period.

    Priority number four: Offensive line depth.

    Obviously the left tackle and center positions are set for the next decade with Jared Veldheer and Stefen Wisniewski, but what about the other positions? Tony Bergstrom was drafted in the 3rd round last year, and managed to unseat the free agent mistake known as Mike Brisiel, which would leave one thinking that he’s the starter at right guard as of now.

    That leaves Cooper Carlisle at left guard. After a great 2011 season, Carlisle took a huge step backward in 2012, giving up sacks and getting beaten pretty badly on running plays as well.

    Oakland has undrafted rookie, Lucas Nix waiting in the wings. Nix has shown himself to be an absolute animal in run blocking, but also a liability in pass protection. His readiness to start is up in the air at the moment.

    All of these facts mean just one thing: The Raiders will be acquiring offensive guards to compete for the starting job, regardless if Carlisle and Brisiel stay with the team.

    Don’t expect McKenzie to go after the big names we’re all hearing though. Other team needs and the salary cap will likely prevent Oakland from getting a well-known free agent, like Winston Justice of the Colts. More likely, there will be a lot of “under the radar” guys brought in to compete.

    /articleimages/pryor-qbsincamp.jpgPriority number five: Quarterback of the future.

    Carson Palmer’s contract makes it financially difficult to release him, and Terrell Pryor showed promise, but still has a long way to go before he can be considered a real NFL quarterback. His mechanics are still very raw, he is still behind the curve when it comes to pre-snap reads, and he’s only able to read about half the field at a time.

    This is not to say Pryor necessarily can’t be a starter, just that he needs a lot more work than can be accomplished in one more off-season. Perhaps Pryor can compete for the starting job in 2014, but he’s just not ready now.

    This makes one ponder the idea that McKenzie will look for a quarterback to come in and compete with Pryor for the backup job in 2013, and the starting job thereafter.

    If McKenzie sees “his guy” available in free agency or in the 3rd or 4th round of the draft, don’t be shocked if he pulls the trigger on him.

    Priority number six: Weapons.

    Yes, the Raiders have a good stable of young running backs and wide receivers, but they all have their flaws. In the case of the running backs, injuries are common. Darren McFadden can be the best player in the league if used correctly, but has yet to finish an entire season. His backup, Mike Goodson has had his injury problems too.

    The wide receivers are young, speedy and explosive, but inconsistent. Dropped passes, missed reads and general lack of productivity makes the receiving corp in Oakland high in potential, but low on reliability.

    At tight end, Brandon Myers proved he could be a great receiver, but struggled mightily at times in his blocking duties. David Ausberry is a matchup nightmare for defenses, but hasn’t been getting time on the field for unknown reasons. Perhaps it is a result of not fully understanding the playbook. Richard Gordon is a blocking machine, but drops more passes than he catches.

    The only consistent and reliable weapon the Raiders have at any position is Marcel Reece.

    All this put together means McKenzie could be looking for players at these positions who can come in, learn the playbook and provide reliable hands and play-making ability in 2013.

    Look for McKenzie to surprise us all by drafting a “skill position” player that no one expects somewhere in the later rounds of the draft.

    Closing:

    It’s not at all easy to predict what McKenzie is thinking, and since he’s not talking to the media about it, Raider Nation is left to speculate. Most fans would agree however, that this list is pretty close to accurate as far as what the team actually needs to improve next year.

  • jesusraiderjim

    GG and Rockstar

    I enjoy your insightful posts in the wee hours of the morning (^ is early for me),

    Coffee on the blog is always informative, thank you both.

    See you on the previous thread

  • hwnrdr

    Good Morning Nation….
    Still no new thread??? Wow…back to the Future!!!

  • The_Civilian_James_Trapp

    GG,

    I think Raleigh McKenzie should be released. This is my biggest gripe with the new “Reggime” This would be like Al making Mark a scout.

  • jesusraiderjim

    COME TO THE DARK SIDE!!!

  • http://www.RAIDERS.com Back-n-Black

    According to CBS’ Jason La Canfora, the Chargers are “nearing a deal” to make Mike McCoy their head coach.
    McCoy, who has spent the last four seasons as the Broncos’ offensive coordinator, knows the Chargers’ personnel well after facing them twice a season. It’s a no-brainer to choose Philip Rivers over the woeful quarterback situations in Jacksonville and Arizona. La Canfora says it “looks like” the deal will be finalized today — meaning Colts offensive coordinator Bruce Arians is still on the market. It also means Cardinals defensive coordinator Ray Horton is in the lead to fill Ken Whisenhunt’s old shoes.