McKenzie commits to McFadden in 2013
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, January 17th, 2013 at 2:34 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Running back Darren McFadden is a big part of the Raiders plans moving forward in 2013, general manager Reggie McKenzie said Thursday.
McKenzie, meeting with beat writers for the first time since Nov. 30, brushed aside the notion that McFadden could be moved entering the final season of his contract following a disappointing season.
“I’m confident Darren’s going to play his last season, regardless of what’s out there,’’ McKenzie said. “We have no decision to do anything with Darren.’’
McFadden gained 707 yards on 216 carries, averaging 3.3 yards per attempt, as the Raiders dropped to 28th in rushing after gaining more yards on the ground than any team in the NFL from 2010-2011.
The Raiders switched to a zone blocking systems under recently-fired offensive coordinator Greg Knapp after playing more gap and power power schemes under Hue Jackson.
While McKenzie said execution was more of an issue than scheme, he also said, “It’s obvious Darren is much better on certain types of plays. That goes without saying. That’s how you’ve got to do it.’’
McKenzie said coach Dennis Allen was closing in on hiring a new offensive coordinator, although he declined to give a time line. The Raiders have talked with former Rams head coach Mike Martz and McKenzie confirmed speaking with Norv Turner and Marc Trestman, both of whom now have other jobs.
Former Jacksonville quarterbacks coach Greg Olson has also been reported as a candidate.
The Raiders also will hire a special teams coordinator, a linebackers coach and an offensive line coach.
The staff leaves for the Senior Bowl Saturday, where they’ll coach the North team, with practices starting Monday.
McKenzie touched on several subjects in a 42-minute meeting with local writers. Some quick hits:
– Right guard Mike Brisiel had ankle surgery following the season. McKenzie said he played with the injury all season and that it hampered his performance. Khalif Barnes (triceps) also had surgery.
– McKenzie was pleased with the job coach Dennis Allen did during the season in terms of changing the culture of the locker room and practice sessions and setting expectations. He liked team morale and the way the team competed _ especially on defense _ during December following an awful November.
– The latest medical reports on Carson Palmer is good. McKenzie expects him to be ready for the offseason.
– McKenzie did not get into specific transactions, but hinted it would have been difficult to cut Rolando McClain during the season because of the salary cap. McClain is expected to be released when it’s more beneificial to the Raiders financial bottom line.
– All moves will be made with the long-term in line.
“We’re not trying to hurry up to win one or two games and mortgage the possibility of winning 10 more,” McKenzie said. “We’re just going to build it the right way and make good, sound decisions.”
– McKenzie said he considered Notre Dame linebacker Manti Te’o a first-round talent but is going to wait and see how his current story unfolds before forming any judgement regarding how will affect him in the draft.
– Defensive tackle Richard Seymour and punter Shane Lechler, both scheduled for unrestricted free agency, have not necessarily been written off, but McKenzie said, “Everything’s predicated on money. You get guys that are used to making a set amount and they’re premiere players and you don’t know what other teams are going to throw out from a contract standpoint.”
– Regarding the change at offensive coordiantor, McKenzie said of Allen: “I was proud the way he identified the issues and attacked them. He didn’t just continue to run this offense and make it work, keep this guy, keep this guy- he evaluated it, said okay, he stood up, and said okay, we’re going to make a change.”
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January 17th, 2013 at 2:35 pm
Zero
January 17th, 2013 at 2:35 pm
1st
January 17th, 2013 at 2:37 pm
I hope McFadden reciprocates his commitment to us and Reggie.
No more Franco-ing it OOB short of the sticks!!!!
January 17th, 2013 at 2:38 pm
DMC
January 17th, 2013 at 2:38 pm
“I’m confident Darren’s going to play his last season, regardless of what’s out there,’
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Sounds like Darren might want a contract extension or might stage a holdout.
January 17th, 2013 at 2:39 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 2:34 pm
I can see Rob Ryan becoming the Packers DC.
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Already got the St. Louis job.
January 17th, 2013 at 2:39 pm
Eric Gilmore@oregonducks17
Reggie McKenzie said he hopes to hire a new O-coordinator, special teams coordinator, LBs coach and and O-line coach “within a few days.”
January 17th, 2013 at 2:40 pm
That is such a good point.
They didn’t ask Manti Te’o questions either.
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Manti aint on the team. but these beat writers are tweeting to about Pryor all day long about the fans.. and yet they dont ask a simple question
January 17th, 2013 at 2:40 pm
“A wise man knows much but says little, a fool knows little but says much.”
January 17th, 2013 at 2:40 pm
This is one case where no news is not good news.
McKenzie commits to McFadden?
January 17th, 2013 at 2:40 pm
Paul Gutierrez@PGutierrezCSN
“We’re not in a salary cap situation like last year, but we still have issues and…decisions that have to be made. ” – #Raiders McKenzie
January 17th, 2013 at 2:41 pm
dr_robert Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 2:21 pm
I have said for at least a month that the raiders may need to go ahead and reach about for a top qb. I know a lot of u guys think we will be picking high next season but it’s not often I pick in the top three. There’s a lot to like about geno smith. Tons of starts. Accurate. Lots of Tds. Not many picks. Mobile. Good arm. Decent size.
I haven’t looked at all the qb’s of course. We will find out who is rising in the coming months. But I like what I’ve seen from geno. I don’t care for Barkley. I would have no issues with trading Palmer, trading or converting Pryor, and grabbing geno. Now we’ve got our qb. Proceed from there.
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Believe me.. after combine.. prodays.. No way GENO SMITH wont be a top 10 qb.
look at ryan tannehill.. look at Christian Ponder.
Geno SMith was the No. 1 rated player in Broward County according to the Miami Herald and South Florida Sun Sentinel and finished No. 2 in the voting for Mr. Florida.[7]“
January 17th, 2013 at 2:41 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 2:39 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 2:34 pm
I can see Rob Ryan becoming the Packers DC.
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Already got the St. Louis job.
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Check again my friend.
January 17th, 2013 at 2:41 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 2:40 pm
That is such a good point.
They didn’t ask Manti Te’o questions either.
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Manti aint on the team. but these beat writers are tweeting to about Pryor all day long about the fans.. and yet they dont ask a simple question
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Yeah, I know that. My point was that a good writer should have asked more questions about the info that Manti provided.
January 17th, 2013 at 2:41 pm
Keep in mind…Reggie could just be putting on his poker face. A DMAC that the team wants and expects back next year is more valuable than one that he’s mulling a trade for.
January 17th, 2013 at 2:42 pm
Right guard Mike Brisiel had ankle surgery following the season. McKenzie said he played with the injury all season and that it hampered his performance. Khalif Barnes (triceps) also had surgery.
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Sounds pretty messed up to force a Healthy guy into surgery just to save face.
January 17th, 2013 at 2:42 pm
DA will introduce the new OC tomorrow… he’s hanging out in the Madden13 online community interviewing right this minute.
He says “Tom Tuttle from Tacoma, Washington is in the lead at this point, but I still want to interview a few more.”
January 17th, 2013 at 2:42 pm
Eric Gilmore@oregonducks17
Reggie McKenzie said neither he nor Dennis Allen has talked to LB Rolando McClain since McClain’s most recent arrest in Alabama.
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January 17th, 2013 at 2:42 pm
The Big Banana Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 2:41 pm
Keep in mind…Reggie could just be putting on his poker face. A DMAC that the team wants and expects back next year is more valuable than one that he’s mulling a trade for.
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Yep same thing with palmer.. letting a team know he will be healthy by then
January 17th, 2013 at 2:43 pm
REPEAT:
#3 Pick & Terrelle Pryor to Eagles for #4 pick & #36 pick.
January 17th, 2013 at 2:43 pm
IF raiders draft GENO SMITH..u know he will start sometime this year
January 17th, 2013 at 2:43 pm
I like Geno, but what’s with referencing his HS “rating”??
LMAO.
The UNM Lobo’s have a guy on their team, Demetrius Walker(who looks exactly like TO), who was the #1 rated basketball player in the US as a HS freshman.
8 years later, he is the 8th man for the New Mexico Lobo’s.
January 17th, 2013 at 2:44 pm
Man, that’s a pretty hilarious story Nob Bust just told
Brahs, can’t you see the poor scrub – before his big pee wee coaching job at the local park came thru – scrapping with persians to move lemons
Gotta give my minion credit though, at least he’s open to learning valuable life lessons from his 20 year old manager
Any of you got a link to DeVry applications, please forward to poor Bust
STUDY ON CAMPUS, ONLINE OR BOTH
January 17th, 2013 at 2:44 pm
17.Back-n-Black Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 2:42 pm
DA will introduce the new OC tomorrow… he’s hanging out in the Madden13 online community interviewing right this minute.
He says “Tom Tuttle from Tacoma, Washington is in the lead at this point, but I still want to interview a few more.”
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It would make the decision to let Lechler go since we’ll never be punting anymore.
January 17th, 2013 at 2:44 pm
I wouldnt care what was offered by philly for pryor you dont make that move.
Ther is not a qb in this years draft that i would grade higher than pryor, nor are there any free agents that i would build around.
In the nfl if you dont have a qb you have nothing, and pryor could be a special player and is already a special talent.
At only 22 years old he stepped onto an nfl feild for the first time in his life and with only 3 days of split team practices he put on a show. he made the san diego chargers number 11 defense look like ohio state vs indiana.
Trading your young talent at qb does not bring a good return.
besides who then plays qb? Are you willing to slog through another 4 win season with palmer at the helm amid turn overs and side line tantrums?
i really like geno smith, yet i wouldnt take him number 3 when i have pryor all ready in silver and black.
It would make more sense to draft another position of need at that spot if there is a player that grades out that high. If not trade the pick and stock the pond
January 17th, 2013 at 2:45 pm
LOL, what?…
January 17th, 2013 at 2:45 pm
There’s not much there Jerry, but thanks anyway.
January 17th, 2013 at 2:45 pm
I just dont like the Eagles fans salivating over one our Players. A raider.
Makes me think why should we let him go be good on another team? The kid is young and athletic. He could be an asset on our team.
If geno beats him out.. well son u can still be a RZ target.. go out and outjump the corner.
January 17th, 2013 at 2:46 pm
How many of you guyd think Reggie is gonna take Geno Smith at #3 and cut Palmer?
I think it’s a very distinct possibility.
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I’ll put it this way GIL BRANDT didnt mock us Geno just to do it. He always has some type of insider info. He is well connected around the league.
Maybe he knows something and wants to be right on Draft day?
January 17th, 2013 at 2:46 pm
McKenzie is expected to be released when it’s more beneificial to the Raiders financial bottom line.
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Who is McKEnzie being released help the Raids bottom Line???
January 17th, 2013 at 2:46 pm
SBreport@SBreport
Hard to read into quotes, but McKenzie’s words in black and white don’t communicate that he’s overly enthused with any OC options.
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that has to make the new OC we hire very excited!!
like “thanks for the support, boss!”
basically saying that Saunders, Martz & Olson = hot trash (which we already knew)
January 17th, 2013 at 2:47 pm
suck it bo shemblechlar jackson…great he is closing in. Proud of 4-12 yeah we suck again.
January 17th, 2013 at 2:47 pm
please release mckenzie…please
January 17th, 2013 at 2:48 pm
Eric Gilmore@oregonducks17
McKenzie acknowledged the ZBS didn’t fit McFadden. “He’s not a lateral mover. As soon as he can go north and south, he’s at his best
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Validation to the fans from day 1 said ZBS didnt fit DMAC. Bob Wylie said it, Bill ROMO said it, Lorenzo NEAL said it. Fans here said it execpt a few who thought KNAPP and ZBS fitted DMAC
wont say any names but u know who u are
January 17th, 2013 at 2:48 pm
While McKenzie said execution was more of an issue than scheme, he also said, “It’s obvious Darren is much better on certain types of plays. That goes without saying. That’s how you’ve got to do it.’’
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Just open the blog and we could have told you that last year and maybe saved you a year figuring it out.
January 17th, 2013 at 2:48 pm
Eric Gilmore@oregonducks17
McKenzie on McFadden: “I’m not an offensive guru, but I do know when Darren is running certain plays, it’s pretty doggone good.”
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January 17th, 2013 at 2:49 pm
Mistic,
Pryor is not 22, he is 23 and will be 24 before next years training camp.
January 17th, 2013 at 2:49 pm
Mystic I would take a cheese burger and fries for TP he sucks just like soup and u
January 17th, 2013 at 2:49 pm
Trade #3 & Pryor for #4 & #36…
Trade #4 to Arizona for #7, 2013 3rd & 2014 2nd.
We would have:
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And 2 2nd’s next season.
BOOM.
January 17th, 2013 at 2:50 pm
McKenzie said ZBS didnt fit DMAC
THANK U FOR THE OBVIOUS
January 17th, 2013 at 2:51 pm
I’d take GENO SMITH over Palmer
January 17th, 2013 at 2:51 pm
“I’m confident Darren’s going to play his last season, regardless of what’s out there,’’ McKenzie said. “We have no decision to do anything with Darren.’’
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2 months from now DMAC could be wearing different colors imo
why else commit to a fragile RB in a contract year who hasn’t lived up to expectations?
you never make a public announcement that a player of yours is on the trade block. Reggie is gonna “support” any player he feels has trade value
in McClain’s case, he doesn’t have to worry about that …
January 17th, 2013 at 2:51 pm
For al of the peole talkng about chip kelly and pryor, please keep in mind there are sevearl guys available that could fit the bill for chips offense, many played in spread read in college and were very good.
In theory philly could try and get vick to restructure and keep him then bring in another qb to back him up.
Dennis dixon, vince young, joe webb are guys that come to mind off the top of my head that would be low cost guys that all can teach and know that kind of offense.
Im not sure I buy the pryor trade stuff, but the eagles sure mught want to trade foles fro a late round pick if vick stays
January 17th, 2013 at 2:51 pm
now i know why mcxcuse20 and reggie get along…they are the same guy!
January 17th, 2013 at 2:52 pm
Debo– geno is black? Not Italian? I thought he was a-geno a-smith-a from Brooklyn! I changed my mind!
January 17th, 2013 at 2:52 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 2:51 pm
For al of the peole talkng about chip kelly and pryor, please keep in mind there are sevearl guys available that could fit the bill for chips offense, many played in spread read in college and were very good.
In theory philly could try and get vick to restructure and keep him then bring in another qb to back him up.
Dennis dixon, vince young, joe webb are guys that come to mind off the top of my head that would be low cost guys that all can teach and know that kind of offense.
Im not sure I buy the pryor trade stuff, but the eagles sure mught want to trade foles fro a late round pick if vick stays
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Chip Kelly personally recruited and wanted Pryor to go to Oregon.
Loves the kid.
January 17th, 2013 at 2:52 pm
40.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 2:50 pm
McKenzie said ZBS didnt fit DMAC
THANK U FOR THE OBVIOUS
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Baby steps
January 17th, 2013 at 2:52 pm
If Chip Kelly’s plan is to bring in Dennis Dixon, VY and Joe Webb, we need to try to trade them anything we can that will give us their 2014 1st round pick.
It will be the #1 overall pick.
January 17th, 2013 at 2:53 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 2:49 pm
Mistic,
Pryor is not 22, he is 23 and will be 24 before next years training camp.
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young and no where near his prime, yet he played with an nfl defense like kids in a sandbox
January 17th, 2013 at 2:53 pm
“McKenzie is expected to be released when it’s more beneificial to the Raiders financial bottom line.”
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Good to know.
January 17th, 2013 at 2:53 pm
WARMACK 2013!
January 17th, 2013 at 2:54 pm
reaching rockstar….reaching
January 17th, 2013 at 2:54 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 2:52 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 2:51 pm
For al of the peole talkng about chip kelly and pryor, please keep in mind there are sevearl guys available that could fit the bill for chips offense, many played in spread read in college and were very good.
In theory philly could try and get vick to restructure and keep him then bring in another qb to back him up.
Dennis dixon, vince young, joe webb are guys that come to mind off the top of my head that would be low cost guys that all can teach and know that kind of offense.
Im not sure I buy the pryor trade stuff, but the eagles sure mught want to trade foles fro a late round pick if vick stays
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Chip Kelly personally recruited and wanted Pryor to go to Oregon.
Loves the kid.
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im aware DAV
Im not sold on the notion that the raiders want give up the player that turned in the single most exciting performance of the season
January 17th, 2013 at 2:54 pm
Mistic: “At only 22 years old he stepped onto an nfl feild for the first time in his life and with only 3 days of split team practices he put on a show. he made the san diego chargers number 11 defense look like ohio state vs indiana.”
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LOL. You are so full of chettt. He didn’t put on a show, moron, he stumbled, fumbled, and look like he never played the position before. 44% passing? you understand what put on a show means? Aren’t you actually supposed to PUT ON A SHOW? 8 for 22 BEFORE NORV PUT IN SUBS.
You confused?
8 for 22 and even after subs went in, last two garbage td’s were just that, garbage. Was nothing to do with Pryor, was 100% fail on the subs. That’s so obvious by watching it again.
You know what I’m going to do? I’m going to make a youtube vid showing how ugly Pryor actually played, while showing the subs totally being out of position.
a 9 yd and 3 yd td? In garbage time? against subs?
GTFOH with your stupid bull****,
lol, you moron.
January 17th, 2013 at 2:55 pm
If Chip Kelly is hell-bent on finding someone to run his offense successfully in the NFL, he will bring in Tim Tebow.
January 17th, 2013 at 2:55 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 2:50 pm
McKenzie said ZBS didnt fit DMAC
THANK U FOR THE OBVIOUS
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Kinda wish that the GM of my franchise would have known this before LAST season. If you arent able to evaluate things that most fans already know, what exactly makes you qualified to be a GM?
January 17th, 2013 at 2:55 pm
Im not sold on the notion that the raiders want give up the player that turned in the single most exciting performance of the season
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Damm, the Single most exciting performance of the season?
Well actually, the sad part is you’re probably right about that.
January 17th, 2013 at 2:56 pm
Hahahaha Joe Webb Vick Dennis Dixon wow Ur idiot mistic all those guys suuuccckkkk
January 17th, 2013 at 2:56 pm
young and no where near his prime, yet he played with an nfl defense like kids in a sandbox
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Yeah…OK
7 points through 50 minutes, if he was in the sand box, he was the kid getting picked on.
January 17th, 2013 at 2:56 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 2:55 pm
If Chip Kelly is hell-bent on finding someone to run his offense successfully in the NFL, he will bring in Tim Tebow.
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You dont know Chip Kelly’s offense and or Tebow’s ability… Or you wouldnt be able to say that without laughing.
January 17th, 2013 at 2:56 pm
reaching rockstar….reaching
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Maybe
BigMac says his slogans are honesty, truth, trust, integrity, etc etc
part of a GM’s job is to lie. he’s a salesman
ask the blog GM, JFB !!
January 17th, 2013 at 2:57 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 2:52 pm
If Chip Kelly’s plan is to bring in Dennis Dixon, VY and Joe Webb, we need to try to trade them anything we can that will give us their 2014 1st round pick.
It will be the #1 overall pick.
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did you read my post, i mentioned them as back ups if they keep vick.
1.) they all were very good in the zone spread offense in college
2.) their experience in the offense could speed up the learning curve for the rest of the team in that offense
3.) if vick gets injured the offense doesnt have to change, because they have similar attributes.
January 17th, 2013 at 2:58 pm
trestman, turner, and martz… he’s trying.
pryor is a good prospect, i hope we get someone that can cultivate and exploit his talents
January 17th, 2013 at 2:58 pm
Of course Reggie commits to Dmac, our best offensive player.
January 17th, 2013 at 2:59 pm
You dont know Chip Kelly’s offense and or Tebow’s ability…
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I know Chip Kelly isn’t going to get 16 games out of Dennis Dixon or Darron Thomas in the NFL.
If he is going to run that gimmick, he needs someone of Tebow’s or Cam’s size, to even think it will work for a season.
January 17th, 2013 at 2:59 pm
dr_robert Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 2:52 pm
Debo– geno is black? Not Italian? I thought he was a-geno a-smith-a from Brooklyn! I changed my mind!
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Figured you would. Google the guy next time and click on Images.
January 17th, 2013 at 2:59 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 2:56 pm
young and no where near his prime, yet he played with an nfl defense like kids in a sandbox
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Yeah…OK
7 points through 50 minutes, if he was in the sand box, he was the kid getting picked on.
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actually the game is 60 minutes and pryor produced 21 points.
pryor also resuscitated dhb and moore, did you notice they both caught tds?
if thats getting “picked on” ill take that over palmer being picked off any day of the week and twice on sunday
January 17th, 2013 at 2:59 pm
Sounds like the ZBS is out?
January 17th, 2013 at 3:00 pm
The only way Vick stays in Philly is a massive pay-cut.
Even then, I highly doubt it.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:00 pm
Michael Wagaman@MWagaman
McKenzie also said he expects McFadden to stay with #Raiders in 2013, likes what Dennis Allen did as HC and likes how T. Pryor played
January 17th, 2013 at 3:00 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 2:59 pm
You dont know Chip Kelly’s offense and or Tebow’s ability…
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I know Chip Kelly isn’t going to get 16 games out of Dennis Dixon or Darron Thomas in the NFL.
If he is going to run that gimmick, he needs someone of Tebow’s or Cam’s size, to even think it will work for a season
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“Kelly wants an intelligent, decisionmaking, read defenses, quick release, accurate thrower”…
Tebow is intelligent. Thats it.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:00 pm
Sheesh. Bolts hire Whiz to run offense huh?
Good hire by McCoy. I didn’t think the Bolts hiring of McCoy was a good one. A reach, but at least McCoy hired a legit OC in Whiz intstead of his former colleague Denver in DA hiring a POS like Knapp as his OC.
Raiders need to nab Carmichael or Morningwheg as OC’s or they will be looking at getting the #1 pick next year for that beast Clowney.
Mularkey maybe acceptable also.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:00 pm
Finally something from the GM on pryor
January 17th, 2013 at 3:00 pm
will the eagles be shopping foles and if so who’d be interested in trading pryor for foles and a pick?
January 17th, 2013 at 3:01 pm
Chip Kelly wasnt hired because of his offensive system.
He was hired because of his ability to innovate and run a program.
He will adapt.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:02 pm
62.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 2:57 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 2:52 pm
If Chip Kelly’s plan is to bring in Dennis Dixon, VY and Joe Webb, we need to try to trade them anything we can that will give us their 2014 1st round pick.
It will be the #1 overall pick.
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did you read my post, i mentioned them as back ups if they keep vick.
1.) they all were very good in the zone spread offense in college
2.) their experience in the offense could speed up the learning curve for the rest of the team in that offense
3.) if vick gets injured the offense doesnt have to change, because they have similar attributes.
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You think they would bring V. Young back again?
January 17th, 2013 at 3:02 pm
Is numbnuts DA going to hire an OC, OL, ST and LB coach by the Senior Bowl??
Sheesh!
January 17th, 2013 at 3:02 pm
“McKenzie is expected to be released when it’s more beneificial to the Raiders financial bottom line.”
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Lol.
I saw that up there too Dakota.
Freudian slip?
January 17th, 2013 at 3:03 pm
inonewordraider Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 3:00 pm
will the eagles be shopping foles and if so who’d be interested in trading pryor for foles and a pick?
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Both 3rd rounders.
So it’d be hard…
January 17th, 2013 at 3:04 pm
Is numbnuts DA going to hire an OC, OL, ST and LB coach by the Senior Bowl??
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nah, give it 2 more weeks
by then all the other teams will have filled their OC positions
January 17th, 2013 at 3:04 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 2:55 pm
Im not sold on the notion that the raiders want give up the player that turned in the single most exciting performance of the season
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Damm, the Single most exciting performance of the season?
Well actually, the sad part is you’re probably right about that.
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pittsburgh jacksonville and atlanta come to mind
January 17th, 2013 at 3:04 pm
young and no where near his prime, yet he played with an nfl defense like kids in a sandbox
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Yeah…OK
7 points through 50 minutes, if he was in the sand box, he was the kid getting picked on.
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Or the cats tried to bury him lol
January 17th, 2013 at 3:05 pm
I wish Dennis Allen would hire Jon Gruden as OC, so all of your heads would explode.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:05 pm
Lol. This is great. Missdick’s on fire now verbally overselling in desperation. No longer did Pryor “do some good things”. He was amazing and made an nfl defense look foolish. He was magical. Are u guys seeing this?
January 17th, 2013 at 3:05 pm
Why would anybody want foles in oakland?
foles wasnt very good and isnt nearly as talented as pryor.
If you want an inexperienced qb go with the guy with the most upside and can make an instsnt impact.
I doubt that you have watched him play, but if you have imagine foles playing for us in the sd game. He would have been knocked unconscious!!!
In fact i would take what palmer has left over nick foles future and it isnt even close.
palmer and foles are both statues, but palmer is a better player, and i dont think foles will ever match him.
foles= a poor mans palmer
January 17th, 2013 at 3:05 pm
Reggie said he was proud of Dennis Allens season. Bunch of losers. I’ll be happy when a real GM takes reigns over this team.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:06 pm
Michael Wagaman@MWagaman
McKenzie also said he expects McFadden to stay with #Raiders in 2013, likes what Dennis Allen did as HC and likes how T. Pryor played..
January 17th, 2013 at 3:06 pm
What do you think about taking Geno #3, Rob?
January 17th, 2013 at 3:06 pm
KrappyRat, you got a few hours left until KrappyWife gets home from work, how about popping in your VHS tape of the Golden Globes
Would be interested in your expert analysis
As always, the Beeeech Dawgs just GOTS to keep it real
January 17th, 2013 at 3:07 pm
I see that everyone wants Geno Smith, but there are more QBs in the draft than him. He would be a good fit with DMac in the backfield for sure. There is also Tyler Wilson out of Arkansas who set records there that even broke Ryan Mallett’s records from the year before.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:07 pm
69.Just Fire Baby Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 3:00 pm
The only way Vick stays in Philly is a massive pay-cut.
Even then, I highly doubt it.
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Local Philly radio guy said Vick doesn’t have the ability to read a defense that would be necessary to run Chip’s offense.
Is Pryor better at that than Vick?
January 17th, 2013 at 3:08 pm
Chip Kelly’s offense is about tempo and getting the RB in position to make plays. It’s never really been about the QB. McCoy will beast it up this year.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:10 pm
I’d take foles over vick at this point. and come on joe webb, did you seem him in the playoffs?
January 17th, 2013 at 3:10 pm
On his offense and the quarterback: There’s perception and reality. The perception is we run our quarterback all of the time. Reality is that’s not the case… I’m a huge fan of [Nick Foles]. He’s tough… He’s a competitor. He’s accurate and I’m excited about that… I don’t have any preconceived notions. I’m looking at film and looking at what direction we’re going to head here.
On Michael Vick: I’m going to look at everybody. We’re going to look at everything we can do to put the best product out on the field. There’s nothing that’s on the board right now. There’s nothing that’s off the board right now. We’re going to put an offense on the field that’s going to score points. —–
chip kelly
not sure but i wouldnt hold my breath on pryor ending up there
January 17th, 2013 at 3:11 pm
rediaR Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 3:08 pm
Chip Kelly’s offense is about tempo and getting the RB in position to make plays. It’s never really been about the QB. McCoy will beast it up this year.
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Bryce Brown..
January 17th, 2013 at 3:11 pm
My buddy is a Vikings fan and they all hate Ponder. They all were screaming for Webb all season long.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:12 pm
onky a freakin loser gm would accept yhis loser coach and his losing 4-12 record…more excuses from reggie…
January 17th, 2013 at 3:12 pm
86.John David Booty Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 3:05 pm
Reggie said he was proud of Dennis Allens season. Bunch of losers. I’ll be happy when a real GM takes reigns over this team.
^^^^^^^^^
Crazy whats going on around here. I thought things like this were supposed to end when the old man passed?
Sheesh.
McCoy gets hired way late by Bolts and then he hires a legit OC real quick.
Gotta hope DA gives Carmichael a raise as his new OC and the title of assistant head coach also.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:13 pm
Chip isn’t DA/Knapp, he’s not going to try and force a certain offense because “you teach what you know.”
January 17th, 2013 at 3:13 pm
McKenzie said he considered Notre Dame linebacker Manti Te’o a first-round talent but is going to wait and see how his current story unfolds before forming any judgement regarding how will affect him in the draft.
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How it affect him in the draft?
How about zero effect?
Teams draft based on whether guys can play football not on whether they have fantasies.
If the latter were true, Terrell Owens would have never had a job.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:14 pm
inonewordraider Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 3:10 pm
I’d take foles over vick at this point. and come on joe webb, did you seem him in the playoffs?
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I did and he looked like a guy making his 3rd nfl start with only an hours notice that he would be playing.
Joe webb would make a very good back up in philly in chips offense.
I know you dont know this but webb played in spread zone in college and it is why he is in the nfl.
lol why am i answering you you dont know shid about qbs grad fan
January 17th, 2013 at 3:14 pm
Palmer threw for 3 tds in a WIN against Pittsburgh. He threw for over 400 yards and 4 Tds against TB.
Prior went 13-28 for 150 yards and missdick thinks it was the most exciting performance of the year.
Missdick is officially pryor’s mom.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:14 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 3:11 pm
rediaR Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 3:08 pm
Chip Kelly’s offense is about tempo and getting the RB in position to make plays. It’s never really been about the QB. McCoy will beast it up this year.
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Bryce Brown..
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Him too
January 17th, 2013 at 3:14 pm
Raider E Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 3:11 pm
My buddy is a Vikings fan and they all hate Ponder. They all were screaming for Webb all season long.
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No offense, pEe, but your buddy sounds like a total zero
January 17th, 2013 at 3:14 pm
RediaR Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 3:13 pm
Chip isn’t DA/Knapp, he’s not going to try and force a certain offense because “you teach what you know.”
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Mike Martz would.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:14 pm
Raider E Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 3:11 pm
My buddy is a Vikings fan and they all hate Ponder. They all were screaming for Webb all season long.
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they got what they wanted in the playoff game, that was one of the worst qb performances i’ve ever seen. Webb=horrible
January 17th, 2013 at 3:15 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 3:58 pm
Michael Wagaman@MWagaman
Raiders have hired Mike Mularkey as Offensive Coordinator and Juan Castillo as Offensive Line coach..
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YEA!
Bout time!..
January 17th, 2013 at 3:15 pm
I’m really starting to think the Raiders will inded wind up with the #1 overall pick next year.
Well at least beast Clowney will be there or maybe even Manziel.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:15 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 3:14 pm
inonewordraider Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 3:10 pm
I’d take foles over vick at this point. and come on joe webb, did you seem him in the playoffs?
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I did and he looked like a guy making his 3rd nfl start with only an hours notice that he would be playing.
Joe webb would make a very good back up in philly in chips offense.
I know you dont know this but webb played in spread zone in college and it is why he is in the nfl.
lol why am i answering you you dont know shid about qbs grad fan
. Joe WEbb? that dude sucks man. saw him throw bounce passes. get real man.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:16 pm
96.Raider E Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 3:11 pm
My buddy is a Vikings fan and they all hate Ponder. They all were screaming for Webb all season long.
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I also have a Viquees fan as a buddy. he was pizzed when they drafter Ponder in the first round, and he was super pissed when they won that game against Washington last season and took themselves out of the RGIII/Luck sweepstakes.
I just say yeah, too bad about that…..and then remind him of the Viqueens trip to the SB in 1976.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:16 pm
New Eagles coach Chip Kelly said at his introductory press conference that he believes ex-Oregon QB Darren Thomas is an NFL-caliber quarterback.
Thomas was Kelly’s starting quarterback in 2010 and 2011. Slightly built with mediocre arm strength, Thomas’ decision to declare for the 2012 draft early was widely panned and he went undrafted, landing in the CFL with the Calgary Stampeders. “Yeah, I think he can play in this league,” Kelly said of Thomas. Thomas could get a camp invite to try to make the Eagles this summer.
Pryor aint going to Philly!!
Looks like Kelly has a whole lot of options, then to give up a 2nd rounder!
January 17th, 2013 at 3:16 pm
DKnight007 Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 3:15 pm
I’m really starting to think the Raiders will inded wind up with the #1 overall pick next year.
Well at least beast Clowney will be there or maybe even Manziel.
>. Johhny Cocaine? better tell that guy to calm down he won’t last running around. these running Qbs are a gamble.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:17 pm
dr_robert Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 3:14 pm
Palmer threw for 3 tds in a WIN against Pittsburgh. He threw for over 400 yards and 4 Tds against TB.
Prior went 13-28 for 150 yards and missdick thinks it was the most exciting performance of the year.
Missdick is officially pryor’s mom.
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You forgot to mention his all time QB rating..
January 17th, 2013 at 3:17 pm
Raider E– sounds familiar. Ponder does just well enuff to get them to the playoffs but the fans want Webb. They got their wish. Bet they don’t like webb so much anymore.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:17 pm
r8eray Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 3:16 pm
New Eagles coach Chip Kelly said at his introductory press conference that he believes ex-Oregon QB Darren Thomas is an NFL-caliber quarterback.
Thomas was Kelly’s starting quarterback in 2010 and 2011. Slightly built with mediocre arm strength, Thomas’ decision to declare for the 2012 draft early was widely panned and he went undrafted, landing in the CFL with the Calgary Stampeders. “Yeah, I think he can play in this league,” Kelly said of Thomas. Thomas could get a camp invite to try to make the Eagles this summer.
Pryor aint going to Philly!!
Looks like Kelly has a whole lot of options, then to give up a 2nd rounder!
>. Coaches say a lot of things in public. Kelly has a history of interest in Pryor. he’ll try to get him.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:17 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 3:58 pm
Michael Wagaman@MWagaman
Raiders have hired Mike Mularkey as Offensive Coordinator and Juan Castillo as Offensive Line coach..
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Bout damn time!
Lets hope Mularkey can score TD’s and not settle for FG’s and utilize the strengths of of his players on offense.
I like the hire of Castillo as OL coach. Now he is back doing what he does best. He was coaching and drilling the OLinemen at the combine a few years ago and I liked his style.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:18 pm
Visor–#19.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:18 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 2:44 pm
I wouldnt care what was offered by philly for pryor you dont make that move.
Ther is not a qb in this years draft that i would grade higher than pryor,
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32 out of 32 professional personnel departments have plenty of players rated higher than Pryor, including Smith, Barkley, Tyler Wilson and Landry Jones. If a team would offer an opened bag of Dorito’s for Pryor I would say take it.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:18 pm
If Reggie takes Geno at #3 I will be incredibly disappointed.
For one thing, if Geno was worth #3, KC or Jax would take him at 1/2 in a heart beat.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:18 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 3:14 pm
inonewordraider Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 3:10 pm
I’d take foles over vick at this point. and come on joe webb, did you seem him in the playoffs?
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I did and he looked like a guy making his 3rd nfl start with only an hours notice that he would be playing.
Joe webb would make a very good back up in philly in chips offense.
I know you dont know this but webb played in spread zone in college and it is why he is in the nfl.
lol why am i answering you you dont know shid about qbs grad fan
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if you think joe webb is good, troy smith is good, jason campbell is better than cp, michael vick is still a viable starting qb, and andrew luck is not on the same planet talent wise as RGIII then you obviously don’t know schit
January 17th, 2013 at 3:19 pm
Geno Smith is more the prototype QB. pocket passer that can throw with accuracy. he plays with Fire too. you build a franchise around a QB with a REAL arm. end of story. But I’m biased as i prefer pocket passers. tyler wilson will also get a look. those are the 2 best QBs I’ve seen.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:19 pm
Raider E Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 3:11 pm
My buddy is a Vikings fan and they all hate Ponder. They all were screaming for Webb all season long.
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No offense, pEe, but your buddy sounds like a total zero
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No sh*t huh?
January 17th, 2013 at 3:19 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 2:38 pm
“I’m confident Darren’s going to play his last season, regardless of what’s out there,’
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Sounds like Darren might want a contract extension or might stage a holdout.
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I wouldn’t expect that from McFadden. He’s not that type of person.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:20 pm
Im out.
God Bless.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:20 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 3:14 pm
RediaR Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 3:13 pm
Chip isn’t DA/Knapp, he’s not going to try and force a certain offense because “you teach what you know.”
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Mike Martz would.
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Sigh…
January 17th, 2013 at 3:20 pm
121.charminultrasoft Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 3:19 pm
Geno Smith is more the prototype QB. pocket passer that can throw with accuracy. he plays with Fire too. you build a franchise around a QB with a REAL arm. end of story. But I’m biased as i prefer pocket passers. tyler wilson will also get a look. those are the 2 best QBs I’ve seen.
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From what I have seen of him….a lot of short throws that break for long gains by his WRs…..just seen a couple of games, but he was not very impressive.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:21 pm
i like pryor, but if reggie doesn’t like pryor he’s gone regardless
January 17th, 2013 at 3:22 pm
reggie on DA…”I thought what he did with his team to try to create a culture in that locker room, to get those players to believe we’re making a change here, to try to do things the right way, and the way we practiced, the way we approached games, I thought he did a really good job..”
great job opie…too bad you didnt win…
January 17th, 2013 at 3:22 pm
DKnight007 Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 3:17 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 3:58 pm
Michael Wagaman@MWagaman
Raiders have hired Mike Mularkey as Offensive Coordinator and Juan Castillo as Offensive Line coach..
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Bout damn time!
Lets hope Mularkey can score TD’s and not settle for FG’s and utilize the strengths of of his players on offense.
I like the hire of Castillo as OL coach. Now he is back doing what he does best. He was coaching and drilling the OLinemen at the combine a few years ago and I liked his style.
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BS!!
Link?
January 17th, 2013 at 3:23 pm
Yo Brahs & Goobs
The big Rasta Ganja gig is just around the corner and me and the Boyz are busy rollin’ blunts and folding our gym shorts
However I’m still a little down about breaking up with my beautiful girlfriend Cinnamon this am
I’m sure my emotions will come out at the gig, making it basically impossible for anyone in the audience not to cry and hug each other
Sure we’ll get some extra post-show hand jiggities from hot groupies who feel my pain, but who knows -
Maybe I’ll just want to walk the beach alone for a few hours, contemplating love, while the cameras roll of course
SAD SONGS SAY SO MUCH
January 17th, 2013 at 3:26 pm
That’s a bunch of mularkey.
We are going to hire a OC who’s last name is a substitute for “sh-t”. Great.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:26 pm
From what I checked on Twitter, BS, no such entry…
January 17th, 2013 at 3:27 pm
inonewordraider Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 3:18 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 3:14 pm
inonewordraider Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 3:10 pm
I’d take foles over vick at this point. and come on joe webb, did you seem him in the playoffs?
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I did and he looked like a guy making his 3rd nfl start with only an hours notice that he would be playing.
Joe webb would make a very good back up in philly in chips offense.
I know you dont know this but webb played in spread zone in college and it is why he is in the nfl.
lol why am i answering you you dont know shid about qbs grad fan
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if you think joe webb is good, troy smith is good, jason campbell is better than cp, michael vick is still a viable starting qb, and andrew luck is not on the same planet talent wise as RGIII then you obviously don’t know schit
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shut the fugg up loser
i never said how good webb or smith are or are not, only that they were better than the guys the played behind.
jc was a far better raider qb than plamer the nefl record books and stat keepers confirm this
rgIII is on a completely different level than luck
27 tds 8 turn overs
luck 23 tds 27 turn overs
grad fan dont embarrass yourself….again
January 17th, 2013 at 3:27 pm
if DA does hire mularkey thats another oc that has been relieved off play calling duties…this nightmare will never end.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:30 pm
shut the fugg up loser
i never said how good webb or smith are or are not, only that they were better than the guys the played behind.
jc was a far better raider qb than plamer the nefl record books and stat keepers confirm this
rgIII is on a completely different level than luck
27 tds 8 turn overs
luck 23 tds 27 turn overs
grad fan dont embarrass yourself….again
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don’t get mad at me, get mad at all the gm’s that refused to hire campbell, webb, smith, or vince young as a starting qb. you saying you know better than all the gms in the nfl? hilarious
January 17th, 2013 at 3:30 pm
All the Palmer lickers wanted to blame Dmac. Lmao.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:30 pm
Why the he11 does this team always wait till the good coaches are taken before they act? Jeezuz effin kriest!!!!
January 17th, 2013 at 3:31 pm
raiders are slow because they look for coordinators at bed-and-breakfasts
January 17th, 2013 at 3:32 pm
i never said how good webb or smith are or are not, only that they were better than the guys the played behind.
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Troy Smith is better than Joe Flacco? The 5′10″ guy currently in the Arena League is somehow better than the 6′5″ guy who has a career 7-4 record in the playoffs? Man, every day Mistic loses even more cred. I wouldn’t think that could be possible.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:33 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 3:30 pm
All the Palmer lickers wanted to blame Dmac. Lmao.
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Drunk as a skunk again
Gotta love Thursdays
January 17th, 2013 at 3:34 pm
All the Palmer lickers wanted to blame Dmac. Lmao.
Hey Seymour Bush.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:34 pm
“Mularkey has a reputation for a penchant for trick plays. His skill for creating special packages to utilize multi-dimensional players such as Hines Ward and Antwaan Randle-el earned him the nickname “Inspector Gadget.”"
Yep. Hines ward and Antwaan randle-el. Qb’s turned wrs. I knew Reggie and Allen saw the truth.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:35 pm
Pryor’s gradual slide into wr has begun.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:36 pm
mularkey another oc relieved of play calling duties….smh
January 17th, 2013 at 3:36 pm
Is the hiring true or not. Raider fans NEED to know that Reggie is doing something!
January 17th, 2013 at 3:38 pm
here’s michael wagaman’s most recent tweets:
Michael Wagaman@MWagaman
McKenzie also said he expects McFadden to stay with #Raiders in 2013, likes what Dennis Allen did as HC and likes how T. Pryor played
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#Raiders GM Reggie McKenzie says team is getting closer to hiring OC, acknowledged talking with Norv Turner, Marc Trestman among others
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The Raiders interviewed Mike Martz for their offensive coordinator vacancy, and they spoke with Juan Castillo about off. line vacancy.
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nothing about an oc hire
January 17th, 2013 at 3:38 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 3:30 pm
All the Palmer lickers wanted to blame Dmac. Lmao.
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McKenzie making a commitment to McFadden is pretty disconcerting. Sounds to me like there are no takers for him and entering a contract year, McKenzie, McFadden and McFaddens agent all realize he has to have a big year. Nice that everyone is all on the same page for once.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:38 pm
Raiders gonna blow another season. No need to even get emotionally invested, people. We all know how stressful it is being Raiders fans, well dont waste your energy. Until we get some bright, creative, open minded leaders in here to take over this franchise, Raiders are going to stink, just like 2012.
Best case scenario for the Raiders, Reggie and DA are just lame ducks and Mark has a plan to bring in a savior for 2014. As far fetched as that sounds. This guy Reggie, sorry, not a great football mind. Hes been proving that since the day he was hired.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:38 pm
still hope for carmichael as OC.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:40 pm
I didn’t see Reggie commiting to DMc at all. He said he saw him playing his last season (last season?) and they had no deal regarding him. That’s just saying for now.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:40 pm
DKnight007 Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 3:38 pm
still hope for carmichael as OC.
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/17/report-carmichael-will-turn-down-interviews-intends-to-stay/
January 17th, 2013 at 3:41 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 3:38 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 3:30 pm
All the Palmer lickers wanted to blame Dmac. Lmao.
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McKenzie making a commitment to McFadden is pretty disconcerting. Sounds to me like there are no takers for him and entering a contract year, McKenzie, McFadden and McFaddens agent all realize he has to have a big year. Nice that everyone is all on the same page for once.
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WRONG AGAIN. Lol. Makes you mad doesn’t it. Especially when Ole KoolKell is always right.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:42 pm
148.John David Booty Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 3:38 pm
Raiders gonna blow another season. No need to even get emotionally invested, people. We all know how stressful it is being Raiders fans, well dont waste your energy. Until we get some bright, creative, open minded leaders in here to take over this franchise, Raiders are going to stink, just like 2012.
Best case scenario for the Raiders, Reggie and DA are just lame ducks and Mark has a plan to bring in a savior for 2014. As far fetched as that sounds. This guy Reggie, sorry, not a great football mind. Hes been proving that since the day he was hired.
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Yep. They will be lucky to win 4 games next year. If they hire a good OC then maybe 6 games.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:42 pm
Dr_robert Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 3:40 pm
I didn’t see Reggie commiting to DMc at all. He said he saw him playing his last season (last season?) and they had no deal regarding him. That’s just saying for now.
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WRONG AGAIN. Lol. Makes you mad doesn’t it. Especially when Ole KoolKell is always right.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:42 pm
I would love Carmichael as our OC, but I really don’t think it’s going to happen.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:43 pm
david shaw brian kelly or jon gruden in 2014
January 17th, 2013 at 3:43 pm
So who posted the mularkey mularkey? Who’s the liar?
January 17th, 2013 at 3:43 pm
sounds to me like the dmc haters were knapp lovers and are pouting…
January 17th, 2013 at 3:43 pm
Pete Carmichael as OC is a pipe dream — it seems.
Via Rotoworld.com:
Saints Offense – TM – Saints
Saints OC Pete Carmichael will turn down requests to interview for the offensive coordinator jobs of the Jaguars and Eagles.
Carmichael is a coaching free agent, so the Eagles and Jaguars technically didn’t need the Saints’ permission to interview him. Although overshadowed by coach Sean Payton, Carmichael has done a sterling job of calling plays for Drew Brees over the past year and a half. Rather than developing a quarterback in Philadelphia or Jacksonville, Carmichael will resume his “excellent working relationship” with Payton and Bre
January 17th, 2013 at 3:44 pm
Considering Dmacs season usually ends around midpoint, then that is when we see the last of him.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:44 pm
When these guys are always wrong, it causes them to cross-post, out of frustration.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:45 pm
Kell–I’ve never seen u be right yet. U misread my post. I saw nothing in what Reggie said that suggested a commitment. He simply said he expects him to play and they have no deal in place. That’s not high praise.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:47 pm
Dr_robert Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 3:45 pm
Kell–I’ve never seen u be right yet. U misread my post. I saw nothing in what Reggie said that suggested a commitment. He simply said he expects him to play and they have no deal in place. That’s not high praise.
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Talk to the hand. Lol.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:47 pm
John David Booty
The ’savior’ will be an owner not named Mark Davis.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:47 pm
Kell–if we were wrong, how would cross posting do anything? Is cross posting just something I throw out there with no particular reason in mind?
Who exactly is cross posting as who?
No answer I bet.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:47 pm
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WRONG AGAIN. Lol. Makes you mad doesn’t it. Especially when Ole KoolKell is always right.
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A guy ran 200+ times for 700 yards, 3.3 yards an attempt, and 2 TD’s. And you are gloating? What are you a moron?
January 17th, 2013 at 3:48 pm
The sad story of Vince Young. I remember certain people in here asking the Raiders to bring in this kid after being released from Tennessee cause he was a winner.
The reasonable in here tried to explain the concept of Damaged Goods, but the explanation was waved off as racist…
The Buffalo Bills released him on Aug 27, 2012.
Reason will prevail.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:49 pm
shut the fugg up loser
i never said how good webb or smith are or are not, only that they were better than the guys the played behind.
jc was a far better raider qb than plamer the nefl record books and stat keepers confirm this
rgIII is on a completely different level than luck
27 tds 8 turn overs
luck 23 tds 27 turn overs
grad fan dont embarrass yourself….again
>> you are half retarded aren’t you? you can’t compare luck and RGIII in regards to TDs or turns. wanna know why you can’t make comparison? you know what i’ll just let your little brain try to fire up for a while. keeping an idiot in suspense.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:49 pm
dr_robert Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 3:47 pm
Kell–if we were wrong, how would cross posting do anything? Is cross posting just something I throw out there with no particular reason in mind?
Who exactly is cross posting as who?
No answer I bet.
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The cross posting blast is the drowning yelp of the idiot in here. Once they get their asses kicked, like KK does on a daily basis, or Jamista Clown, the only thing left is to accuse someone of cross posting, which in reality makes no sense.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:50 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 3:47 pm
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WRONG AGAIN. Lol. Makes you mad doesn’t it. Especially when Ole KoolKell is always right.
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A guy ran 200+ times for 700 yards, 3.3 yards an attempt, and 2 TD’s. And you are gloating? What are you a moron?
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Context, simple-minded moron.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:51 pm
Seymour Bush,
McFadden gained 707 yards on 216 carries, averaging 3.3 yards per attempt, as the Raiders dropped to 28th in rushing after gaining more yards on the ground than any team in the NFL from 2010-2011.
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Context, simple-minded moron.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:52 pm
“I’m confident Darren’s going to play his last season regardless of what’s out there.”
“We have no decision to do anything with Darren.”
This sounds like a commitment?
January 17th, 2013 at 3:53 pm
Its just sad to see us doing nothing, when we were the team that was hampered the most by coordinators. Why were Reggie and DA not looking into a replacement for Knapp BEFORE the season ended? Seahawks lose their defensive coordinator Gus Bradley to head coach the Jags. What do they do? Turn around and replace him with Dan Quinn from Florida. Keep all your gears running. Why are we so quiet considering we need to replace so much of our staff? Teams have been active in trying to improve their staffs all offseason. What in the world is Reggie doing? Casual fans knew the offense sucked because of Knapp. All the local writers agreed the offense sucked because of Knapp. This is the biggest and most important decision of our offseason, hands down. And wheres Reggie?
Not looking like GM material.
At first I thought it was just DA who wasnt head coach material, but now I see that both of these guys dont have the n#ts or brains for their respective jobs.
#1 pick in 2014. Itll be nice to see Clowney in a Raiders uniform. Thats the consolation.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:53 pm
DMC can’t do much of anything without??? wait for it…. an offensive coordinator…lol
January 17th, 2013 at 3:55 pm
FIRE REGGIE NOW.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:55 pm
Jackasspuria Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 3:47 pm
John David Booty
The ’savior’ will be an owner not named Mark Davis.
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Man, man, man. Very well may be the case.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:56 pm
its the da/reggie way of doing things…”right”….lol, these guys are so obsessed with how tge media sees them that they forget they need to win….more blackouts to come next year….
January 17th, 2013 at 3:57 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 3:50 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 3:47 pm
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WRONG AGAIN. Lol. Makes you mad doesn’t it. Especially when Ole KoolKell is always right.
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A guy ran 200+ times for 700 yards, 3.3 yards an attempt, and 2 TD’s. And you are gloating? What are you a moron?
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Context, simple-minded moron.
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I think the context simple minded moron is every other back on the roster out performed or frankly just looked better than him. Including an undrafted guy. That’s simple context. Moron.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:57 pm
Oh great. The other doctor arrived. Any guesses as to what he has to say?
January 17th, 2013 at 3:57 pm
I am really starting to loose faith in Reggie.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:57 pm
only a few smart guys in here who knew this was a disaster (reggie/da/knapp)…wont change until the other two are gone.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:58 pm
My exact sentiments, JDB. New era of what? Same ole story in Oakland…
January 17th, 2013 at 3:58 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 3:57 pm
That’s simple context. Moron.
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For simple-minded fools like you, moron.
January 17th, 2013 at 3:58 pm
Just watch. El Gordo, and DA are going to surprise everyone with their OC/O-line hires..
After a thorough and exhaustive search for qualified candidates, we will end up with some innovative up and comers..
From the Pop-Warner ranks…
January 17th, 2013 at 3:59 pm
So the jags won two games and both mularkey and Olson are hot commodities eh?
January 17th, 2013 at 3:59 pm
dr_robert Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 3:52 pm
“I’m confident Darren’s going to play his last season regardless of what’s out there.”
“We have no decision to do anything with Darren.”
This sounds like a commitment?
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It sounds like an organization that is not signing him to a long term deal, cannot find any takers, and is trying not to alienate him so they don’t have to pay him $5+mm to sit around on the sidelines eating sunflower seeds like they did under Jackson.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:00 pm
el gordo y la flaca (da)….thats some funny sh!t there…
January 17th, 2013 at 4:00 pm
Happy Birthday, Muhammad Ali. You’re still the Greatest.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:00 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 3:58 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 3:57 pm
That’s simple context. Moron.
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For simple-minded fools like you, moron.
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This can’t be the real koolkell. Even he isn’t this stupid.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:00 pm
Dr_robert Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 3:59 pm
So the jags won two games and both mularkey and Olson are hot commodities eh?
So true
January 17th, 2013 at 4:00 pm
2-14 in 2013 and JOn Gruden back to Coach the Raiders in 2014, so wake me up in 2014
January 17th, 2013 at 4:01 pm
Kell loves him some 3.3 yards per carry. Good footballin’ right there.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:02 pm
What’s with all this Geno Smith talk. Geno Smith lost 6 games in 2012, Pryor lost 4 his entire career at ohio state…We already have a better young athletic qb on the roster.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:03 pm
How many kells are there?
January 17th, 2013 at 4:03 pm
Geno smith was 0-0 this season. Just like all qb’s.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:04 pm
Reg,
Im glad to see you wokeup from your month long nap.
Now go back to sleep meathead!
January 17th, 2013 at 4:04 pm
dr_robert Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 4:01 pm
Kell loves him some 3.3 yards per carry. Good footballin’ right there.
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Jeremy Stewart: 25 carries 101 yards 4+/per carry. Over 20% better production. From the undrafted guy.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:04 pm
McFadden gained 707 yards on 216 carries, averaging 3.3 yards per attempt, as the Raiders dropped to 28th in rushing after gaining more yards on the ground than any team in the NFL from 2010-2011.
The Raiders switched to a zone blocking systems under recently-fired offensive coordinator Greg Knapp after playing more gap and power power schemes under Hue Jackson.
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Context, simple-minded morons.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:04 pm
Geno smith is a far better qb than Pryor. Not even close.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:04 pm
False
January 17th, 2013 at 4:05 pm
lmao…jeremy stewert lol…lol…wait lol…oh dayum….
January 17th, 2013 at 4:05 pm
DA changed the culture from a team that could win on any given Sunday to a team that gets b!tich slapped every Sunday.
Thanks Reggie.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:05 pm
Dr_robert Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 4:03 pm
How many kells are there?
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You should know. Lol
January 17th, 2013 at 4:06 pm
McFadden gained 707 yards on 216 carries, averaging 3.3 yards per attempt, as the Raiders dropped to 28th in rushing after gaining more yards on the ground than any team in the NFL from 2010-2011.
The Raiders switched to a zone blocking systems under recently-fired offensive coordinator Greg Knapp after playing more gap and power power schemes under Hue Jackson.
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Understand, morons?
January 17th, 2013 at 4:07 pm
Yes. We all know Adrian Peterson would run for 3.3 if the blocking scheme changed. Same for Charles or lynch. They all need their own special scheme to be good. If we go back to power, DMc will suddenly have it again.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:07 pm
If anybody knows a tr0ll you are the resident expert and tr0ll.
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Seymour Bush Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 4:00 pm
This can’t be the real koolkell. Even he isn’t this stupid.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:08 pm
why commit to Mcfadden? guy gets tackled by gust of wind,
January 17th, 2013 at 4:09 pm
Prepare for the Greg Olson era.
Greatness.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:09 pm
Did u watch the games? DMc sucked. But a college wr turned fb turned rb for a few games, a career backup, and some guy named Stewart that even Stanford fans knew little about, all jammed. Yeah but if we change the “scheme”….
January 17th, 2013 at 4:10 pm
Jamista Clown!!! The resident blog turd! Jamista you haven’t been here for awhile. Do you find a mannequins head in the dumpster again? You Put it to good use didn’t you?
January 17th, 2013 at 4:10 pm
Dr_robert Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 4:09 pm
Did u watch the games? DMc sucked.
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McFadden gained 707 yards on 216 carries, averaging 3.3 yards per attempt, as the Raiders dropped to 28th in rushing after gaining more yards on the ground than any team in the NFL from 2010-2011.
The Raiders switched to a zone blocking systems under recently-fired offensive coordinator Greg Knapp after playing more gap and power power schemes under Hue Jackson.
Understand, morons?
January 17th, 2013 at 4:11 pm
I’m really Mistic the suppa villian and raider debo and MR and sandusky44
January 17th, 2013 at 4:12 pm
MistaBrown Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 4:07 pm
If anybody knows a tr0ll you are the resident expert and tr0ll.
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Seymour Bush Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 4:00 pm
This can’t be the real koolkell. Even he isn’t this stupid.
>. whats up sista brown!!
January 17th, 2013 at 4:13 pm
cool we can get rid of stewert now that the donkey zbs bs is gone…
January 17th, 2013 at 4:13 pm
“I’m confident Darren’s going to play his last season, regardless of what’s out there,’’ McKenzie said.
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Somehow I don’t hear this the same as “we are working on a long term extension for Darren and hope he retires a Raider.” But Kooky moron does.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:13 pm
Kell is just……not bright.
Seymour. He may not have been here under that handle but h just mentioned him and whaddya know. Instantly here. Interesting.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:13 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 4:10 pm
Dr_robert Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 4:09 pm
Did u watch the games? DMc sucked.
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McFadden gained 707 yards on 216 carries, averaging 3.3 yards per attempt, as the Raiders dropped to 28th in rushing after gaining more yards on the ground than any team in the NFL from 2010-2011.
The Raiders switched to a zone blocking systems under recently-fired offensive coordinator Greg Knapp after playing more gap and power power schemes under Hue Jackson.
Understand, morons?
>> McSnugglepants sucks the big dong like you ball licker
January 17th, 2013 at 4:14 pm
Same ole tr0lls different day.
Carry on sh!tbirds!
January 17th, 2013 at 4:14 pm
Dr_robert Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 4:13 pm
Kell is just……not bright.
Seymour. He may not have been here under that handle but h just mentioned him and whaddya know. Instantly here. Interesting.
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McFadden gained 707 yards on 216 carries, averaging 3.3 yards per attempt, as the Raiders dropped to 28th in rushing after gaining more yards on the ground than any team in the NFL from 2010-2011.
The Raiders switched to a zone blocking systems under recently-fired offensive coordinator Greg Knapp after playing more gap and power power schemes under Hue Jackson.
Understand now Dr Dumbass?
January 17th, 2013 at 4:15 pm
McInjured tears it up in madden. i just turn injuries and fatique off and game on.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:15 pm
MistaBrown Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 4:14 pm
Same ole tr0lls different day.
Carry on sh!tbirds!
>. still a browns fan sista?
January 17th, 2013 at 4:16 pm
need more scuttlebutt!!!!!!!
January 17th, 2013 at 4:16 pm
If McFadden sucks so much then why is he the first person opposing teams talk about when scheming against the Raiders O? Are these NFL defensive coordinators morons too…?
January 17th, 2013 at 4:17 pm
So once again the Raiders have to dig though the coaching scraps to find 2nd tier coaches. This is BULLSCHYTT
January 17th, 2013 at 4:17 pm
Yeah Kell. After u posted it 8 times, I understand u think zbs turns backs into sh1t. Except the other backs all got off. And the zbs kills it all over football. DMc sucks now. Sorry.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:18 pm
NGRaiderfan Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 4:16 pm
If McFadden sucks so much then why is he the first person opposing teams talk about when scheming against the Raiders O? Are these NFL defensive coordinators morons too…?
>> so the defense can stay employed? kind of like digging holes in the military just to fill them back in
January 17th, 2013 at 4:18 pm
Dmac will be fine. Gotta cut Carson – too expensive to keep, and draft Geno.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:18 pm
dr_robert Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 4:17 pm
Yeah Kell. After u posted it 8 times, I understand u think zbs turns backs into sh1t. Except the other backs all got off. And the zbs kills it all over football. DMc sucks now. Sorry.
>. McHangnail is good on madden.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:19 pm
So once again the Raiders have to dig through the coaching scraps to find 2nd tier coaches. This is BULLSCHYTT
*through
January 17th, 2013 at 4:19 pm
NG–they do? How could u know that? Been in their meetings? Is it cuz cork ran said it? Nobody game plans for a back averaging 3.3 yards per carry.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:19 pm
boss01 Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 4:19 pm
So once again the Raiders have to dig through the coaching scraps to find 2nd tier coaches. This is BULLSCHYTT
*through
>> Mike Martz
January 17th, 2013 at 4:20 pm
Carmichael will resign with the Saints. Norv gone to Brownstains, Whisenhunt to Chargers.
Down to Martz or Mularkey
January 17th, 2013 at 4:20 pm
From Paul G CSNBAYAREA
(His transcripts of the McKenzie presser):
“McKenzie, on if Allen was married to zone-blocking scheme and if team learned from failure: “I don’t think Dennis was married to a scheme. He saw a scheme that he was interested in, and liked what it had to offer. To me, it’s not about scheme — people get so tied up in scheme, it’s how you use your players and how you execute.”
http://www.csnbayarea.com/blog/paul-gutierrez/highlights-mckenzies-media-meeting
January 17th, 2013 at 4:20 pm
dr_robert Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 4:19 pm
NG–they do? How could u know that? Been in their meetings? Is it cuz cork ran said it? Nobody game plans for a back averaging 3.3 yards per carry.
>> if he runs it 3 straight times it would be 4th and inches. thats pretty good
January 17th, 2013 at 4:21 pm
NGRaiderfan Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 4:16 pm
If McFadden sucks so much then why is he the first person opposing teams talk about when scheming against the Raiders O?
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It’s what every single team does at most levels of football. Start by taking away the run, then focus on taking the passing game. It is the job of the offense, and McFadden to not let that happen. McFadden let that happen which led to other parts of the offense being ineffectual. And when I say McFadden let that happen, all the other backs, once again, were all productive in the offensive scheme.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:21 pm
Why will DMc “be fine”? Where’s evidence if that? All other backs did well. They all found holes. DMc sucked. But u have confidence he will “be fine”. Right.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:22 pm
inonewordraider Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 3:30 pm
shut the fugg up loser
i never said how good webb or smith are or are not, only that they were better than the guys the played behind.
jc was a far better raider qb than plamer the nefl record books and stat keepers confirm this
rgIII is on a completely different level than luck
27 tds 8 turn overs
luck 23 tds 27 turn overs
grad fan dont embarrass yourself….again
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don’t get mad at me, get mad at all the gm’s that refused to hire campbell, webb, smith, or vince young as a starting qb. you saying you know better than all the gms in the nfl? hilarious
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I made no complaints about any of these guys being ‘refused “for a starting spot
lol dumbazz
January 17th, 2013 at 4:22 pm
Raiders defense does it all wrong. first thing they do is give up a big run, then some big passes, then TK punches somebody then barnes gets a holding penalty, then when the score is 28-3 they let palmer call some plays and then we score against practice squad players. awesome
January 17th, 2013 at 4:23 pm
First thing a guy named “mistic” said that was true. DMc can definitely get us to 4th and short. On our 29.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:23 pm
And with the first pick of the 2014 NFL Draft the Oakland Raiders select…..Jadeveon Clowney, DE, South Carolina!
January 17th, 2013 at 4:23 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 4:22 pm
inonewordraider Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 3:30 pm
shut the fugg up loser
i never said how good webb or smith are or are not, only that they were better than the guys the played behind.
jc was a far better raider qb than plamer the nefl record books and stat keepers confirm this
rgIII is on a completely different level than luck
27 tds 8 turn overs
luck 23 tds 27 turn overs
grad fan dont embarrass yourself….again
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don’t get mad at me, get mad at all the gm’s that refused to hire campbell, webb, smith, or vince young as a starting qb. you saying you know better than all the gms in the nfl? hilarious
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I made no complaints about any of these guys being ‘refused “for a starting spot
lol dumbazz
>. I’m the real mistic, you’re just a studio gangsta.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:24 pm
What everyone is missing here is that our recievers are not #1’s. We have a wealth of 2’s and 3’s. need to change that so OC’s cannot just stack the D-Line.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:24 pm
Chargers safety Eric Weddle would like to be trained by this wind.
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Mistic666 Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 4:08 pm
why commit to Mcfadden? guy gets tackled by gust of wind,
January 17th, 2013 at 4:25 pm
boss01 Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 4:19 pm
So once again the Raiders have to dig through the coaching scraps to find 2nd tier coaches. This is BULLSCHYTT
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It’s not bullsh**, it’s the fact. Who is going to come here and risk their career? What do we have on offense? OK, first a good Q. But the offensive line is in flux, the RB is a head case, there are no receivers, no TE, but we do have a good full back who is a mismatch. But that is it.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:25 pm
mistic the suppa poser!!!
January 17th, 2013 at 4:25 pm
I notice guys like to scream about how bad the cap was, and how Reggie was put in such a dire position. So, does that mean we can expect the Redskins and Cowboys to both end up with 4 wins next season, seeing as they will be facing unprecedented cap penalties? I doubt it.
Truth is, after reviewing Reggies first year, there were a number of things that he could have done differently that would have ensured that we stayed competitive, all while building where necessary, at the same time. And he blew it. And hes off to a horrible start this offseason, so far.
Im a Raiders fan. Im always going to be interested in the way that our GM thinks, and the types of moves they make. To date, I am extremely unimpressed with Reggie McKenzie.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:25 pm
Ahh the real missdick shows up and the lies commence.
U said u had been calling for Webb over ponder all year. This was right before the playoff game.
U have b1tched incessantly about Campbell not starting over Palmer.
Everyone knows this. It’s ur while argument. And now u say u never said it.
Geez dude. Ur not even good at lying.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:25 pm
DKnight007 Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 4:23 pm
And with the first pick of the 2014 NFL Draft the Oakland Raiders select…..Jadeveon Clowney, DE, South Carolina!
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That might not be a bad thing.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:26 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 3:18 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 2:44 pm
I wouldnt care what was offered by philly for pryor you dont make that move.
Ther is not a qb in this years draft that i would grade higher than pryor,
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32 out of 32 professional personnel departments have plenty of players rated higher than Pryor, including Smith, Barkley, Tyler Wilson and Landry Jones. If a team would offer an opened bag of Dorito’s for Pryor I would say take it.
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Bush i often disagree with so called experts mainly because they tend to look at things with a bias
the nfl and colleges have been wrong for year time and time again.
they leaf highly rated, rated higher than pryor and look how that turned out
lol i will make my own determinations i believe in thinking for myself
January 17th, 2013 at 4:26 pm
Dr. Rob,
Why are you such a “Negative Nancy?”
January 17th, 2013 at 4:26 pm
i wanna be a NFL DC. you can give 443 points in 16 games and keep your job!! cool gig
January 17th, 2013 at 4:27 pm
John David Booty Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 4:25 pm
I notice guys like to scream about how bad the cap was, and how Reggie was put in such a dire position. So, does that mean we can expect the Redskins and Cowboys to both end up with 4 wins next season, seeing as they will be facing unprecedented cap penalties? I doubt it.
Truth is, after reviewing Reggies first year, there were a number of things that he could have done differently that would have ensured that we stayed competitive,
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What could we have done?
January 17th, 2013 at 4:27 pm
Bush i often disagree with so called experts mainly because they tend to look at things with a bias
the nfl and colleges have been wrong for year time and time again.
they leaf highly rated, rated higher than pryor and look how that turned out
lol i will make my own determinations i believe in thinking for myself
>> yeah but you’re a clown so how can you trust your own determinations.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:27 pm
What’s wrong with Al Saunders as OC? Hemight even support Bob Wylie & Wiz 1.0 to return as O-line coaches. We certainly have done worse – Knapp & Pollard. we can’t get “bones” Fassell back as STC (he’s coaching elsewhere) but his dad is most likely available.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:28 pm
Raider E Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 4:26 pm
Dr. Rob,
Why are you such a “Negative Nancy?”
>> Power,Money,Sex?
January 17th, 2013 at 4:28 pm
Booty
Washington and Dallas have similar cap-problems to the Oakland Raiders.
Washington and Dallas had, upon spending their cap $, acquired MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH better talent than Mr. Davis left us with.
Thus the different records.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:28 pm
DKnight007 Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 4:23 pm
And with the first pick of the 2014 NFL Draft the Oakland Raiders select…..Jadeveon Clowney, DE, South Carolina!
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There it is.
We might as well spend this season not getting upset about the Raiders being garbage, and instead spend it laughing at DAs and Reggie’s follies. Then when DA is fired, and we start 2014 with the #1 pick, this will definitively be an attractive destination for a top notch Head coach candidate.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:29 pm
lol i will make my own determinations i believe in thinking for myself
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“The draft is really just a crap shoot” Bill Polian
I will agree with you on that. I certainly make my own evaluations on players. One thing is I am a firm believer in seeing players live. There is only so much one can gather from tape.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:29 pm
Raider e–cuz.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:30 pm
How about bringing back hue Jackson as PC
Seriously!!!
January 17th, 2013 at 4:30 pm
Mistic
you think without a bias? That’s biologically impossible. Nicely done!
January 17th, 2013 at 4:30 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 3:32 pm
i never said how good webb or smith are or are not, only that they were better than the guys the played behind.
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Troy Smith is better than Joe Flacco? The 5′10″ guy currently in the Arena League is somehow better than the 6′5″ guy who has a career 7-4 record in the playoffs? Man, every day Mistic loses even more cred. I wouldn’t think that could be possible.
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where are you guys getting this stuff from?
T smith out played a smith when they were in sf. I think he was a better player and was scape goated and removed when singltary got canned so bonus baby a smith could sleep easy with no comp
January 17th, 2013 at 4:30 pm
Sorry correction OC
January 17th, 2013 at 4:30 pm
Al Saunders is right under there nose he knows the team and did a good job being oc a couple years ago.does it hurt them that much to get someone from al Davis regime?
January 17th, 2013 at 4:31 pm
Did missdick just accuse others of being biased? Is that the pot calling the kettle a black-hater?
January 17th, 2013 at 4:31 pm
Seymour, curious, what important details would you see at the stadium that you wouldn’t see from an all-22 film?
Sideline manners?
January 17th, 2013 at 4:32 pm
LIVE is better for real. If you just watch tape? You would never see DHB gettin after a CB all day long.
The kid has limited talent, but he is one tough MF.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:32 pm
John David Booty Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 4:25 pm
I notice guys like to scream about how bad the cap was, and how Reggie was put in such a dire position. So, does that mean we can expect the Redskins and Cowboys to both end up with 4 wins next season, seeing as they will be facing unprecedented cap penalties? I doubt it.
Truth is, after reviewing Reggies first year, there were a number of things that he could have done differently that would have ensured that we stayed competitive, all while building where necessary, at the same time. And he blew it. And hes off to a horrible start this offseason, so far.
Im a Raiders fan. Im always going to be interested in the way that our GM thinks, and the types of moves they make. To date, I am extremely unimpressed with Reggie McKenzie.
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Just once I would like the mediots to remind him that he ALSO INHERITED a top 10 rushing offense & made that the 31st rushing attack in the league.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:32 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 4:30 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 3:32 pm
i never said how good webb or smith are or are not, only that they were better than the guys the played behind.
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Troy Smith is better than Joe Flacco? The 5′10″ guy currently in the Arena League is somehow better than the 6′5″ guy who has a career 7-4 record in the playoffs? Man, every day Mistic loses even more cred. I wouldn’t think that could be possible.
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where are you guys getting this stuff from?
T smith out played a smith when they were in sf. I think he was a better player and was scape goated and removed when singltary got canned so bonus baby a smith could sleep easy with no comp
> troy smith is a buster man. damn Forest
January 17th, 2013 at 4:33 pm
Seriously it wouldn’t be bad…an it would give the offense immediate boost big time
January 17th, 2013 at 4:33 pm
Chuck
Saunders is near 70 years old and has only been an ASSISTANT coordinator for the last 8 years.
there’s a reason no one is interviewing him for the plethora of OC openings.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:34 pm
Troy Smith? Really?
He just parked my car at the Ridpath lol
January 17th, 2013 at 4:34 pm
Truth is guys we have way bigger problems then Palmer and that WR TP as long as that SKUNK APE MUMBLES and that tranny DENISE r running the show we r FCKED
January 17th, 2013 at 4:35 pm
Dr_robert Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 4:31 pm
Did missdick just accuse others of being biased? Is that the pot calling the kettle a black-hater?
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Dr Dumbass, you need to be quiet for awhile and take some notes from the more experienced posters in here.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:35 pm
233.jackasspuria Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 4:20 pm
From Paul G CSNBAYAREA
(His transcripts of the McKenzie presser):
“McKenzie, on if Allen was married to zone-blocking scheme and if team learned from failure: “I don’t think Dennis was married to a scheme. He saw a scheme that he was interested in, and liked what it had to offer. To me, it’s not about scheme — people get so tied up in scheme, it’s how you use your players and how you execute.”
http://www.csnbayarea.com/blog/paul-gutierrez/highlights-mckenzies-media-meeting
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yes yes….we hear this bullcrap from coaches and gm’s before when they fail….it’s always about lack of execution.
Never about lack of quality coaching, teaching, game planning and scheme. That all needs to fall in line before execution takes place.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:36 pm
lol Trapp
so we’ll blame Knapp’s shortcomings on the boss of the boss of Knapp. You know, the guy who DOESN’T coach the offense.
Why not just keep going up and blame Mark Davis then?
January 17th, 2013 at 4:36 pm
R8dercain Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 4:33 pm
Seriously it wouldn’t be bad…an it would give the offense immediate boost big time
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He would NEVER come back after Reggie booted him out the door.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:36 pm
Fire the skunk ape mumbles
January 17th, 2013 at 4:36 pm
Or ya Al Saunders would work just fine…bring back the power blocking scheme and away we go…
Playoffs!!!
January 17th, 2013 at 4:36 pm
Palmer’s contract is a BIG problem.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:37 pm
Kell–why would the smartest guy in the room listen to u?
January 17th, 2013 at 4:37 pm
* Dr Dumbass, you need to be quiet for awhile and take some notes from the more knowledgeable posters in here.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:38 pm
Never say never godeep
Money talks
January 17th, 2013 at 4:38 pm
DKnight
he said it’s about “how you use your players.”
That’s blaming the coaching. Settle down.
Reggie is right – EVERY scheme can work. Championship weekend has a ZBS, a Perkins system, a power-blocking system, and a hybred power-blocking/zone read system.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:39 pm
Raider E Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 4:36 pm
Palmer’s contract is a BIG problem.
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Why is Palmers contract a Big problem. Terrell Pryor is not an NFL Q. We could start him, you guys could finally realize it, and we would have nothing on the roster. That wouldn’t be good.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:39 pm
Ian– stop the racist stuff. White guys have been called out for never saying anything to the white racist stuff. I’ve creamed fangs for it. But I’ve never said anything to u. I’m not down with that sh1t.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:40 pm
Dr_Rob is a nazi
January 17th, 2013 at 4:41 pm
Bush,
I like Palmer, but 17 mil is toooooo much.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:41 pm
and mistic the supatard is a black racist. could be the same guy with a split personality
January 17th, 2013 at 4:41 pm
Leaf booted to jail. JaPorkChop thanks you for grabbing the title of biggest bust by the horns.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:41 pm
Gruden, Shaw & LOvie’s asking price is going up way high when we have to contact them next year.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:41 pm
That is why we draft Geno.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:42 pm
Kell–u may be old and ill give u respect for simply being an elder. But I’m way more knowledgable than most here. U obviously are one of my avid readers so u should know this. Lol.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:42 pm
Mystic must be sooo angry that JOHNY HEISMAN owns all his black qbs just sayin
January 17th, 2013 at 4:42 pm
High Horse?
January 17th, 2013 at 4:43 pm
geno Smith is the pick.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:43 pm
Palmer is at 17 million next year because he re-structured to cost only $850,000 this last season.
So think of it as 2-years for 18 million. That’s been the cap hit.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:44 pm
ex7 Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 4:36 pm
lol Trapp
so we’ll blame Knapp’s shortcomings on the boss of the boss of Knapp. You know, the guy who DOESN’T coach the offense.
Why not just keep going up and blame Mark Davis then?
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Fine by me, Mark doesn’t have an ounce of football knowledge his old man had….The point is MaddeRaider is that Reggie is so quick to reference the salary cap he inherited yet he doesn’t mention the good things he also inherited.
I’ll let you go know, you probably gotta supersize him & Clinsdales Whopper meals.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:44 pm
McKenzie, on what he saw in Terrelle Pryor: “What I did see was Terrelle that I was pleased with, he protected the ball in the game when you have snapping issues, even with handing off, the ball slipping, protecting when you’re being rushed, he protected the ball. That was a plus for me. To see that and to see snap count, the offensive linemen getting used to his cadence and him getting the plays out and emotions and all the little things that he has to do to make sure there were no issues with penalties before the ball is snapped. Now, obviously, you can see the plays, and when things break down, where he can kind of create and do some things. But he had a chance to make some throws and he did pretty good. I was encouraged. Hopefully the new offensive coordinator will find a way to see what he can do best during this offseason and see what he looks like in preseason games.”
—- bIg Mack
LMAO!!!!
looks like one of the very main issues on oc hinges on what they can do with pryor just as i surmised
Just like I thought big mack/ davis are sold on pryor, because he was a play maker but also was a very effective game manger. Protecting the ball is the qb’s number one job like i have been trying to tell you fools. i dont think they are too impressed with 37 turn overs in 25 games from palmer
LOOKS LIKE RGIII NEWTON WILSON AND KAPPY ARE MAKING THIS HAPPEN
haters be damned
GO HYBRID OR GO HOME
January 17th, 2013 at 4:44 pm
Uh oh. The new mistic going off the rails. Shoulda known by the inclusion of the dumb number. Diagnosis: brain rot. Treatment: euthanasia.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:45 pm
Sorry DR my bad
January 17th, 2013 at 4:46 pm
Trapp, what great things did Reggie inherit?
No 1st round pick? No 2nd round pick?
No pro-bowl talent outside his kicker and punter?
An injury-prone RB as his best-known asset?
A 33-year old QB for a rebuilding team?
No depth? Bunch of cut guys starting at S, CB, and LB?
January 17th, 2013 at 4:50 pm
Trapp, what great things did Reggie inherit?
No 1st round pick? No 2nd round pick?
No pro-bowl talent outside his kicker and punter?
An injury-prone RB as his best-known asset?
A 33-year old QB for a rebuilding team?
No depth? Bunch of cut guys starting at S, CB, and LB?
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Well said….
January 17th, 2013 at 4:51 pm
Pryor:
Handled the snap
Handled the cadence
“He did pretty good”
“Hopefully the new OC can figure out what he does best and we will see what he looks like in preseason.”
Palmer:
“He is our starting qb next year.”
Missdick:
They’re “sold” in Pryor.
OC hire is about Pryor.
Laughing like hyena (always a sign of a guy trying to hide his desperation by being loud).
Can u feel his panic?
January 17th, 2013 at 4:52 pm
Trapp, what great things did Reggie inherit?
No 1st round pick? No 2nd round pick?
No pro-bowl talent outside his kicker and punter?
An injury-prone RB as his best-known asset?
A 33-year old QB for a rebuilding team?
No depth? Bunch of cut guys starting at S, CB, and LB?
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Yes.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:53 pm
I was encouraged. Hopefully the new offensive coordinator will find a way to see what he can do best during this offseason and see what he looks like in preseason games.”
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Translation: this kid needs a lot of work, and there is no way he is going in a regular season game any time soon.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:54 pm
Mistic,
You get way ahead of yourself, Playboy. I bet we draft Geno, cut Palmer, and Geno beats out Pryor for the starting job.
I got a fifth of Jack on it. You?
January 17th, 2013 at 4:54 pm
Ok Ian. If I’m gonna rake missdick for it, then I gotta be fair.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:55 pm
302.alex7 Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 4:46 pm
Trapp, what great things did Reggie inherit?
No 1st round pick? No 2nd round pick?
No pro-bowl talent outside his kicker and punter?
An injury-prone RB as his best-known asset?
A 33-year old QB for a rebuilding team?
No depth? Bunch of cut guys starting at S, CB, and LB?
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Well technically, the “Cut guys” starting in the Secondary and LB were all Reggie’s idea
January 17th, 2013 at 4:56 pm
Draft chance warmack this year and use the rest of the picks on defense and since DA and mumbles will be here for one more year I’m sure we will finish the year with the worst record in the league and have the first in 2014 hopefully Loyd Christmas will kick both there worthless arses to the curb and we can take clowney with the 1st pick
January 17th, 2013 at 4:57 pm
LB is not truth, injuries hurt our secondary. Tyvon played all year hurt.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:58 pm
Geno Smith 2013!!!!
January 17th, 2013 at 4:58 pm
Loyd Christmas.
January 17th, 2013 at 4:58 pm
lloyd, dummy
January 17th, 2013 at 5:02 pm
Some of you may not know this, but based on how Palmers contract was restructured last year, cutting him would actually cost them more (17 million) to the 13 he is owed now.
January 17th, 2013 at 5:03 pm
Pryor mad a major splash in his debut, and the silver and black must do everything in thier power to install an offense for him moving forward.
Of all of the qbs taken in the last two years i put pryor near the top
Alone at the top are RgIII and Wilson and newton
the next tier would be pryor kappy luck dalton
the rest are a hodge podge of guys that im not sold on weeden tannyhill ponder gabbert locker
I think pryor can be better than everybody i put im in the group with
did i forget anybody?
January 17th, 2013 at 5:04 pm
If I ever see Reggie in town, I’m going to compliment him on his 1st season of service, and then I’m going to tell him how much I enjoyed his performance in “Wreck-it Ralph”
January 17th, 2013 at 5:05 pm
No worries DR mystic is a idiot good thing chip Kelly isn’t nearly as dumb as mystic if is he will be out of a job real fast in Philly Webb, young ,Dixon, t smith oooouch those r some awful qbs CFL material for sure pretty soon Everett Golson and TP will be joining them soon
January 17th, 2013 at 5:05 pm
Palmer’s cap hit is 4+ mil, for the last time. Salary 13 mil for 2013.
Total of 17 mil.
If we cut him now? It hits our cap at 4 mil plus accelerators which I have no clue about?
January 17th, 2013 at 5:05 pm
Raider E Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 4:54 pm
Mistic,
You get way ahead of yourself, Playboy. I bet we draft Geno, cut Palmer, and Geno beats out Pryor for the starting job.
I got a fifth of Jack on it.
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your barking up the wrong tree i have touted geno in here for 3 years straight
I dont think he is the play maker pryor is though. he is a very very good prospect though and i have him number one by a mile in this qb class
January 17th, 2013 at 5:07 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 4:53 pm
I was encouraged. Hopefully the new offensive coordinator will find a way to see what he can do best during this offseason and see what he looks like in preseason games.”
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Translation: this kid needs a lot of work, and there is no way he is going in a regular season game any time soon.
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thats really weird because im sure he was starting in week 17 vs the chargers to the tune of 3 tds
January 17th, 2013 at 5:09 pm
U see there is hope. Missdick and I agree on geno, the Italian qb. Ain’t life grand?
January 17th, 2013 at 5:09 pm
So you say I’m right, Mistic?
That is the best plan?
We agree?
January 17th, 2013 at 5:10 pm
I’m sorry Lloyd Christmas
January 17th, 2013 at 5:10 pm
Q: When we talked to you last time, you said you wanted to see a little bit of Terrelle Pryor in game action and see what you had. What did you see in the time he got, especially that one start in the end?
McKenzie: “Well, what I did see with Terrelle that I was pleased with, he protected the ball. In the game where you have snapping issues, even with handing off with the ball slipping, protecting when he’s being rushed, he protected the ball. That was a plus for me. To see that and to see snap count, the offensive linemen getting used to his cadence. And him getting the plays out and the motions and all the little things he has to do to make sure there were no issues with penalties before the ball is snapped. Now, obviously, you can see the plays when things break down where he can kind of create and do some things. But he had a chance to make some throws and he did pretty good. I was encouraged. Hopefully the new offensive coordinator and find a way to see what he can do best in this off-season and see what he looks like in preseason games.”
Q: Would you be confident in him as the number two guy next year?
McKenzie: “Right now he’s our number two. We’ve got Matt Leinart as a free agent. I’m going to bring guys in. I’m not penciling in anybody at any position as one, two. I’m going to have somebody in here to try to compete with everybody. So I’m going to get into who is two or three or number one for that matter.”
Q: Obviously running quarterbacks this year have had some success around the league. Do you assess his skills differently seeing that it can work?
McKenzie: “You’ve still got to have the total package too. People talk about RG [Robert Griffin III] and [Russell] Wilson and [Colin] Kaepernick. You have to make the short, medium, long throws to be effective. When you play eight or nine in the box and just all off and come get you if you can’t complete balls too…”
Q: From a talent evaluation standpoint, as you see the league, at least some teams gravitating toward more quarterback oriented runs, does that make you evaluate the position any differently going forward?
McKenzie: “You’ve got to evaluate. That doesn’t mean you change your philosophy and you’re going to go strictly with an option running-type quarterback. It’s always nice to have options. If you can get a guy that can throw it, which all quarterbacks are going to have to be able to throw the football, then on top of that he can run it, that’s the old adage of being a dual threat. Get a defensive end that can play the run and rush the passer, that’s what you want. You got a dual threat with a guy that’s touching the ball every play…so people are making a big deal out of it. If you’ve got a guy that you have to watch out creating a lot of plays when things break down, making something out of nothing, that’s hard to defend.”
Q: Is that more dangerous to your way of thinking of making things that break down, then the read option plays that everybody is..?
McKenzie: “Yeah, because the read option, you can defense that, but that read option and throwing the ball all around the field, it’s hard. That’s hard to defend.”
per raiders.com
January 17th, 2013 at 5:10 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 5:03 pm
Pryor mad a major splash in his debut,
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8 for 22 looking extremely inaccurate would not be much of a “mad splash”. Especially when SD started making adjustments which caused Pryor to go 2 for 10 in the 3rd quarter and decide the game. But, you have to like his athleticism and escapablility. I am sold on mobile Q’s. I am sold on accuracy. I am not sold that Pryor can somehow develop extreme accuracy at this level which is requisite.
January 17th, 2013 at 5:11 pm
crossposting can cause depression and infertility
January 17th, 2013 at 5:12 pm
Q: Are you set on keeping that third pick or would you be open if somebody comes and says we want to move up to that spot, we’ll give you a couple picks in return?
McKenzie: “I’m not going to get into what we’ll do, but I’m not tied down to anything in January. But I’m sure my mind will change so many times before April. But it’ll be interesting to see what happens.”
Q: Speaking of the draft, I’m curious what your thoughts are on Manti Te’o at this point. We don’t know obviously whether he was part of this hoax or if he was just a dupe of it, but how much does it diminish him in the eyes of the NFL?
McKenzie: “The one thing I can say, I haven’t been reading or been up to date with all this stuff that’s going on, I was traveling yesterday and I got so many texts and emails about, ‘what in the world?’ So I decided to let this thing settle down and then try to figure out what happened. What is this all about? I really don’t know the gist of what’s going on with Manti, but apparently it’s something huge because it’s not only because it’s the sports world, but it’s news in general. That’s a lot of stuff that’s going on there. I’m sure because the enormity of what’s going on, he’s got to answer some questions. So depends on how it comes out.”
Q: Before it happened, did you regard him as a top-10 pick?
McKenzie: “Yeah, the guy, the players, top-10 pick, top-15, top-20, or I don’t know, but we liked him as a player. We’ll see. It’s a shame that all this media attention that’s gone to him in regards to this incident or whatever. It’ll be interesting to see what happens through it all.”
January 17th, 2013 at 5:13 pm
Raider E Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 5:09 pm
So you say I’m right, Mistic?
That is the best plan?
We agree?
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best plan?
no, I would trade down. i like geno a lot and i wouldnt be upset if he was drafted by the raiders, i dont think he has the raw talent of pryor.
I see pryor very much like cam newton, only not quite as polished as a passer, but far more effective as a leader.
Equally as dangerous to score any times his hands are on the ball from any point on the field passing or running.
so far in pryors only extended playing time detroit preseason and week 17 he has put 6 tds on the board
like big mack and the boy “i was encouraged”
January 17th, 2013 at 5:13 pm
You can have Running QB’s like Steve Young and Rich Gannon, but not guys like Vick, Newton, RG3, Pryor, McNabb, etc… Just can’t win consitantly in the NFL like that.
January 17th, 2013 at 5:14 pm
Q: How would you assess your free agent signings from last year? Obviously Streater did well, [Philip] Wheeler did well, what about the rest?
McKenzie: “I don’t want to get into it…The one thing I can say with the injury situation – I didn’t expect two of the corners to go down in game one and game two. When you’re talking about [Ron] Bartell getting hurt, he was already hurt during training camp, and then he got hurt on another injury. He just couldn’t rebound. You get older players like that and Shawntae [Spencer] couldn’t rebound from his foot. It was tough that way. You don’t account for injuries. You don’t sign guys thinking they’re going to get injured. You try to look at the history and go from there. Even with big Mike Brisiel, he had a bad ankle and it got worse and worse. We had to do major surgery here at the end of the season with him. He’s going to be working to get back in full.”
Q: How much do you think that affected [Brisiel’s] play?
McKenzie: “A lot. He couldn’t drive off of it like he would like. But he had a bum ankle. A lot of these guys play through a lot of things.”
Q: Did he have it most of the season?
McKenzie: “It was an ongoing deal. He had a whole lot of nicks throughout the season.”
Q: You look at the way you seem to be approaching things, salary cap conscious, building with young players, talent you want to develop yourself. You’d look from the outside and think that Richard Seymour and Shane Lechler would be hard to imagine finding a place for them. Would that be?
McKenzie: “Everything is still going to be predicated on money. You get guys that are used to making a set amount and they’re premier players. You don’t know what the other teams are going to throw out there from a contract standpoint. I don’t think you toss anything out of the window. It’s our plan, throughout the roster, to upgrade. If we have a little leeway to sign more players, we’ll do that. We’re going to try to do it from the standpoint of ‘with the future in mind,’ not just get a one-shot guy to save the day. We’re going to try to build this thing. If we can add two, three, four players in the off-season before the draft, we’ll do that, if they’re the right guys. If we can get them and get them to fit within our structure and our salary cap, we’ll do it. We’re not just going to sit back and not go after guys because we want to get in a better salary cap situation. We’re going to pinpoint some guys and try to go after them. If we can get them or not, that remains to be seen.”
Q: What kind of advantage is it coaching the Senior Bowl that you can’t do just showing up to it?
McKenzie: “Number one, we can see hands-on how they can pick up a system and how they lead the groups, how they are in meeting rooms, their communication skills. We can sit around in the meeting room, we’ll have scouts in there, and we get hands-on information.”
January 17th, 2013 at 5:15 pm
Alex7 Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 4:46 pm
Trapp, what great things did Reggie inherit?
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I guess the words “Top 10 rushing offense” confuse you.
No 1st round pick? No 2nd round pick?
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Exactly. Which is why you change the offensive scheme which is the strength of the team.
No pro-bowl talent outside his kicker and punter?
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DMC, Veldeer, Wiz, Marcel(where was he at the 1st half of the year), Moore, even Palmer can be considered pro=bowl talent?…Of course, the Chiefs had 5 “Pro-bowl” players too.
An injury-prone RB as his best-known asset?
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And they ran the same scheme under the SAME fu**ing guy who failed to utilized his best-known asset. What’s that say about these guys?
A 33-year old QB for a rebuilding team?
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About as bad as Harbaugh inheriting Alex smith isn’t it?
No depth? Bunch of cut guys starting at S, CB, and LB?
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Guess what genius, this is the salary cap era. The idea of “depth” is a fu**king joke. BTW, he signed all those cut guys in the secondary. Now, I want you to go watch Chekwa the last 2 weeks & compare his play to anything Shreg’s old farts did. Here’s a spoiler, Chekwa forced a fumble, broke up a pass for an INT, made a beautiful open field tackle to stop a 3rd down conversion in SD. Now ask yourself, why that guy was stuck on the bench so Pat Lee(cut), Bartell(cut), & Hansen(popping off while we’re down 30–culture change here–) could get reps…Hilarious
BTW…How did Brisel, Bergstrom look this year?
January 17th, 2013 at 5:16 pm
Q: So, only your scouts get to go and none of the other scouts from other teams?
McKenzie: “Oh absolutely. When we are in meetings, position meetings, they’re right there.”
Q: So it’s not just the coaches, the scouts are in there, too?
McKenzie: “Yes. We get to be a part of it, too. There’s something to be said when you can eat at the dinner table with a guy and get to know guys from that end, as opposed to an interview process, more formal. When they let their guard down a little bit, you can see how they mix and mingle with their teammates. I think its invaluable information. You get to see the real person.”
Q: Besides Brisiel, are there other guys that needed surgery after the season?
McKenzie: “I don’t have the whole list. I know Khalif Barnes had to get surgery. He was out there playing with one arm the last few games when he played. I can’t remember off the top of my head. We had a couple guys that needed to get taken care of. Miles Burris had to have a little scope; a knee thing.”
Q: Was there anything other than, I don’t know Barnes’ situation, but sounds like Brisiel has a long road, by OTAs should be good?
McKenzie: “Yeah, you’re talking about mid-April or May. Everybody should be good to go by mini-camp.”
Q: Speaking of Burris and the other linebackers, were you unhappy with their development? Is that why Coach [Johnny] Holland was fired?
McKenzie: “No. I think Coach Dennis Allen had his major reasons for doing that. But it was not the play of Miles and you can’t blame Johnny for Rolando’s actions or moving around a couple of guys, that’s not it at all. That would be something Dennis would be better suited to answer particular questions like that.”
Q: How do you assess Dennis’ first year, rookie season?
McKenzie: “I thought what he did with his team, trying to create a culture in that locker room and get those players to believe that we’re making a change here, we try to do this thing the right way in the way we practice, the way we approach games, and I thought he did a really good job getting these players to buy into what we’re doing. Talking to these players, players are looking forward to getting back and that’s what it’s all about. You want a good response to the head coach, to how he’s leading the team and how they follow him. I was very pleased by the way he led the team and, to be honest, I’m proud in the way he identified the issues and attacked it. He didn’t just continue to, ‘okay we’re going to continue to run this offense and make it work or we’re going to continue to keep this guy or keep this guy.’ He evaluated it; he stood up and said, ‘okay, we’re going to make a change,’ and did that. I like the way he led this team, the way the defense played especially at the end. It was encouraging. I see much better things in the future. I mean, he’s a rookie coach just like I’m a rookie GM. But for a rookie coach, I like the way he led this team.”
January 17th, 2013 at 5:16 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 5:10 pm
Q: When we talked to you last time, you said you wanted to see a little bit of Terrelle Pryor in game action and see what you had. What did you see in the time he got, especially that one start in the end?
McKenzie: “Well, what I did see with Terrelle that I was pleased with, he protected the ball. In the game where you have snapping issues, even with handing off with the ball slipping, protecting when he’s being rushed, he protected the ball. That was a plus for me. To see that and to see snap count, the offensive linemen getting used to his cadence. And him getting the plays out and the motions and all the little things he has to do to make sure there were no issues with penalties before the ball is snapped. Now, obviously, you can see the plays when things break down where he can kind of create and do some things. But he had a chance to make some throws and he did pretty good. I was encouraged. Hopefully the new offensive coordinator and find a way to see what he can do best in this off-season and see what he looks like in preseason games.”
Q: Would you be confident in him as the number two guy next year?
McKenzie: “Right now he’s our number two. We’ve got Matt Leinart as a free agent. I’m going to bring guys in. I’m not penciling in anybody at any position as one, two. I’m going to have somebody in here to try to compete with everybody. So I’m going to get into who is two or three or number one for that matter.”
Q: Obviously running quarterbacks this year have had some success around the league. Do you assess his skills differently seeing that it can work?
McKenzie: “You’ve still got to have the total package too. People talk about RG [Robert Griffin III] and [Russell] Wilson and [Colin] Kaepernick. You have to make the short, medium, long throws to be effective. When you play eight or nine in the box and just all off and come get you if you can’t complete balls too…”
Q: From a talent evaluation standpoint, as you see the league, at least some teams gravitating toward more quarterback oriented runs, does that make you evaluate the position any differently going forward?
McKenzie: “You’ve got to evaluate. That doesn’t mean you change your philosophy and you’re going to go strictly with an option running-type quarterback. It’s always nice to have options. If you can get a guy that can throw it, which all quarterbacks are going to have to be able to throw the football, then on top of that he can run it, that’s the old adage of being a dual threat. Get a defensive end that can play the run and rush the passer, that’s what you want. You got a dual threat with a guy that’s touching the ball every play…so people are making a big deal out of it. If you’ve got a guy that you have to watch out creating a lot of plays when things break down, making something out of nothing, that’s hard to defend.”
Q: Is that more dangerous to your way of thinking of making things that break down, then the read option plays that everybody is..?
McKenzie: “Yeah, because the read option, you can defense that, but that read option and throwing the ball all around the field, it’s hard. That’s hard to defend.”
per raiders.com
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ARE YOU IDIOTS READING THIS?????????
LMFAO!!!!!
HE MENTIONS WILSON RGIII AND KAPPY IN REGARDS TO PRYOR!!!!!!
BUSH DR SLOB ALEX 7 AND THE REST YOUR TAKE DOESNT MATCH WHAT BIG MACK AND ALLEN SAYS
January 17th, 2013 at 5:17 pm
Smokin mirrors
January 17th, 2013 at 5:18 pm
But mystic scam is 13 and 19 as a starter that sucks according to u he should be GARBAGE u talk about Palmers record as a raider all the time O I get it tho scam is black so it’s all good u give him a pass his record sucks and so does he if u think Pryor is the next scam then we really should trade his arse to Philly
January 17th, 2013 at 5:19 pm
Exactly Mistic,
I see Pryor as on of these new-age hybrid TE’s in the league.
The kid has got the size, the athletic ability, and the desire.
He could replace pass catching TE’s as the best ever.
January 17th, 2013 at 5:19 pm
“You don’t sign guys thinking they’re going to get injured. You try to look at the history and go from there”
And yet that’s exactly what Bartell & Spencer do is get hurt the past few seasons. However, McCheesburger couldn’t foresee that. Why was Chekwa behind them again McFatty?
January 17th, 2013 at 5:19 pm
With Geno throwin’ him the ball….
January 17th, 2013 at 5:21 pm
335.RaiderDirt Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 5:17 pm
Smokin mirrors
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I think you mean Snort n mirrors.
January 17th, 2013 at 5:21 pm
lester
January 17th, 2013 at 5:22 pm
I kid, i kid
January 17th, 2013 at 5:23 pm
Raider E Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 5:19 pm
Exactly Mistic,
I see Pryor as on of these new-age hybrid TE’s in the league.
The kid has got the size, the athletic ability, and the desire.
He could replace pass catching TE’s as the best ever.
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if you want to take a qb that scored 3 tds against the 11th ranked defense with virtually no practice
we simply dont have anything to discuss
besides you are on the wrong side of the fence with your assessment according to davis sr and jr, big mack allen and most knowledgeable nfl media pundits and fans
January 17th, 2013 at 5:23 pm
Mike & Mike, as in Tice for the OL and Mularkey for OC.
Question is, can we pull 2 respected assistants to help us out?.
January 17th, 2013 at 5:25 pm
[...] [...]
January 17th, 2013 at 5:27 pm
Crap I was about to call it a day…gotta run see you guys later.
January 17th, 2013 at 5:29 pm
TP as a tight end or WR sounds about right man he could ball at either of those positions QB tho no thanks. NEXT
January 17th, 2013 at 5:30 pm
BUSH DR SLOB ALEX 7 AND THE REST YOUR TAKE DOESNT MATCH WHAT BIG MACK AND ALLEN SAYS
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McKenzie say word for word what I said. Here:
McKenzie: You have to make the short, medium, long throws to be effective. When you play eight or nine in the box and just all off and come get you if you can’t complete balls too…”
McKenzie: “Yeah, because the read option, you can defense that, but that read option and throwing the ball all around the field, it’s hard. That’s hard to defend.”
This is word for word what I said. Put 8 or 9 guys up with a single high, and make the Q complete the deep pass. If a Q can complete that deep pass consistently, you are going to be in trouble defensively.
January 17th, 2013 at 5:32 pm
if you want to take a qb that scored 3 tds against the 11th ranked defense with virtually no practice
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He had a year and a half of practice. And two of those three TD’s came in the last 3 minutes when the game was over. That’s what I saw.
January 17th, 2013 at 5:33 pm
Mystic u can thank that blocked punt for one of pryors td passes man was getting his arse beat 24 to 7 game was over in the 4th
January 17th, 2013 at 5:34 pm
ian85 Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 5:18 pm
But mystic scam is 13 and 19 as a starter that sucks according to u he should be GARBAGE u talk about Palmers record as a raider all the time O I get it tho scam is black so it’s all good u give him a pass his record sucks and so does he if u think Pryor is the next scam then we really should trade his arse to Philly
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stop being so concerend with skin color you racist.
palmer is a 10 year failure
palmer took over a team in first place and took it to the cellar. raiders clealry have gotten worse under palmer
palmer in 25 games has 8 wins 35 tds and 37 turn overs
contrast with newton
newton a second year pro improved a rebuilding team from 2 wins to 6 as a rookie, improved the win total again in this season. Panthers are getting better under newton.
In 32 games newton has 13 wins 62 TOUCHDOWNS AGAINST 35 TURNOVERS
Newton wins more games and produces far more touchdowns while turning it over less.
WHAT THE FUGG ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT CROSS POSTER
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
palmer couldnt carry newtons jock with a Boeing 747
January 17th, 2013 at 5:36 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 5:30 pm
BUSH DR SLOB ALEX 7 AND THE REST YOUR TAKE DOESNT MATCH WHAT BIG MACK AND ALLEN SAYS
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McKenzie say word for word what I said. Here:
McKenzie: You have to make the short, medium, long throws to be effective. When you play eight or nine in the box and just all off and come get you if you can’t complete balls too…”
McKenzie: “Yeah, because the read option, you can defense that, but that read option and throwing the ball all around the field, it’s hard. That’s hard to defend.”
This is word for word what I said. Put 8 or 9 guys up with a single high, and make the Q complete the deep pass. If a Q can complete that deep pass consistently, you are going to be in trouble defensively.
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bush got owned by big mack on this one
now he wants to change his stance on the wave of the future and the hybrid offense as he is finally starting to grasp how it works.
lol
its cool welcome to the party
January 17th, 2013 at 5:39 pm
Whatever happened to the days when the Raiders sensed fear, anxiety, and weekness?
That’s when we used to go for the throat?
We Suck….
January 17th, 2013 at 5:40 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 5:32 pm
if you want to take a qb that scored 3 tds against the 11th ranked defense with virtually no practice
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He had a year and a half of practice.
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you are in denial
pryor is on record admitting that he hasnt seen the fied practice except frop scout team up until he got less than 50% of the starting reps in week 17
deflippo and knapp also are on record saying he hasnt practiced
every body knows other than you that 3rd string does not get practice reps
BUsh does it pain you that much to know that he electrified the raider nation based almost exclusively on his own talent and desire without the benefit of practice?
LOL
January 17th, 2013 at 5:41 pm
bush got owned by big mack on this one
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What are you talking about? Mack says word for word EXACTLY what I said. I love the read option hybrid offense. I think it is extremely exciting. But, I also believe that defensive coaches will find ways to negate it.
January 17th, 2013 at 5:42 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 5:23 pm
Raider E Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 5:19 pm
Exactly Mistic,
I see Pryor as on of these new-age hybrid TE’s in the league.
The kid has got the size, the athletic ability, and the desire.
He could replace pass catching TE’s as the best ever.
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if you want to take a qb that scored 3 tds against the 11th ranked defense with virtually no practice
we simply dont have anything to discuss
besides you are on the wrong side of the fence with your assessment according to davis sr and jr, big mack allen and most knowledgeable nfl media pundits and fans
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F*ck the pundits. I bury those cockroaches…
January 17th, 2013 at 5:42 pm
NEWTON IMPROVED HIS THE TEAM WIN TOTAL TWO YEARS STRIAGHT AND SCORED 62 TOUCHDOWNS!!!!
HOW DARE YOU TYPE PALMERS NAME IN THE SAME THREAD WITH NEWTON!!!!
January 17th, 2013 at 5:43 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 5:40 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 5:32 pm
if you want to take a qb that scored 3 tds against the 11th ranked defense with virtually no practice
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He had a year and a half of practice.
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you are in denial
pryor is on record admitting that he hasnt seen the fied practice except frop scout team up until he got less than 50% of the starting reps in week 17
deflippo and knapp also are on record saying he hasnt practiced
every body knows other than you that 3rd string does not get practice reps
BUsh does it pain you that much to know that he electrified the raider nation based almost exclusively on his own talent and desire without the benefit of practice?
LOL
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You are contradicting yourself. So, he played on the scout team for a year and a half but didn’t practice? What was he doing? Playing PS2? You don’t make sense. But we have come to expect that.
January 17th, 2013 at 5:44 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 5:41 pm
bush got owned by big mack on this one
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I love the read option hybrid offense.
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hahahahahahahahaha’
this is a damn lie!!!!!!!
you fought with me going way back to pre season when i told you wilson and rgIII would light up the nfl.
You said it wouldnt work in the nfl and teams are going to “figure it out”
STICK TO YOUR GUNS BUSH
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
January 17th, 2013 at 5:46 pm
bush you dont know what scout team means?
it means YOU ARE RUNNING THE OTHER TEAMS OFFENSE NOT YOUR OWN
LOL
ok so you are calling pryor and knapp and deflippo liars.
Tell me how they benefit by lying about Pryor practice time?
January 17th, 2013 at 5:48 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 5:44 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 5:41 pm
bush got owned by big mack on this one
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I love the read option hybrid offense.
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hahahahahahahahaha’
this is a damn lie!!!!!!!
you fought with me going way back to pre season when i told you wilson and rgIII would light up the nfl.
You said it wouldnt work in the nfl and teams are going to “figure it out”
STICK TO YOUR GUNS BUSH
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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You are melting down. Take a deep breath. I said in the offseason, coaches will sit down and devise ways to defend it. They can’t do that in the during the season. That is EXACTLY what I said. Green Bay was a perfect example of how they stayed in their base defense and had no idea how to defend Kapernick. Do you think Dom Capers is not going to come up with a wrinkle to defend it over the next seven months?
January 17th, 2013 at 5:48 pm
LOL big macks take on pryor gets posted and board clears out in a matter of seconds!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!
i guess the pryor haters and palmer worshipers will come back when they think people have forgotten about this.
January 17th, 2013 at 5:48 pm
Keeping Dmac means no more zbs. Fck the zbs and the schiity job the coaches did. The boner is outta the pants. Raiders gonna kick ass next season.
January 17th, 2013 at 5:49 pm
I guess Reggie was right Allen change the culture in the locker that is why went from 8-8 to a non competitive 4-12.the funny part is Reggie was not here last year so how could he know if the culture changed.
January 17th, 2013 at 5:51 pm
Haha mystic u sad sack of schit wow he went from 6 wins to 7 omg roll out the red fcking carpet for him lmfao keep hyping Joe webb, VY, Vick, scam they all suck balls everyone knows the NFL is ran by Brady mannings brees and Rodgers ps if u r gonna keep hyping black qbs stick to Russel Wilson and maybe kap that’s it Dude the rest blow just like u
January 17th, 2013 at 5:51 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 5:48 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 5:44 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 5:41 pm
bush got owned by big mack on this one
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I love the read option hybrid offense.
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hahahahahahahahaha’
this is a damn lie!!!!!!!
you fought with me going way back to pre season when i told you wilson and rgIII would light up the nfl.
You said it wouldnt work in the nfl and teams are going to “figure it out”
STICK TO YOUR GUNS BUSH
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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You are melting down. Take a deep breath. I said in the offseason, coaches will sit down and devise ways to defend it.
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another flat out lie!!!!!
you said they would ‘figure it out’ after a few weeks
i told you then it isnt about “figuring it out” it is not a mystery or secret as to how to defend it.
This is beyond scheme because of its simplicity and the nature of football defenders.
EVERYBODY ALREADY KNOWS HOW TO STOP EVERY PASSING AND RUNNING SCHEME THEY CANT STOP THE PLAYERS EXECUTING IT THOUGH!!!!
Your real problem with it is because this new approach in the nfl leaves palmer out in the cold
LMAO
January 17th, 2013 at 5:52 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 5:46 pm
bush you dont know what scout team means?
it means YOU ARE RUNNING THE OTHER TEAMS OFFENSE NOT YOUR OWN
LOL
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I already told you this: most Q’s find the scout team a HUGE benefit to themselves, as they learn all kinds of different offenses and plays, and the coaching staff can see what plays the scout team runs well. It’s called practice. What your point is, is Pryor did not play with the ones. But he did play with the ones. He played with the ones all preseason, and he played with the ones in the week preparing for his start. But that is not the point. Pryor has been playing for a year and a half at the pro level and is STILL very inaccurate. That’s the point you continue to miss.
January 17th, 2013 at 5:52 pm
Alex ,Saunders maybe 70 but he did a lot better job at 68 than the qb coach at Jacksonville.maybe they should hire him that will get rid of Reggie and Allen by mid season.
January 17th, 2013 at 5:53 pm
ian85 Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 5:51 pm
Haha mystic u sad sack of schit wow he went from 6 wins to 7 omg roll out the red fcking carpet for him lmfao keep hyping Joe webb, VY, Vick, scam they all suck balls everyone knows the NFL is ran by Brady mannings brees and Rodgers ps if u r gonna keep hyping black qbs stick to Russel Wilson and maybe kap that’s it Dude the rest blow just like u
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cross poster have the balls to be racist under one handle for a change
you m.o. is unchanging so you dont fool anyone here
January 17th, 2013 at 5:54 pm
another flat out lie!!!!!
you said they would ‘figure it out’ after a few weeks
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Hahahahaha. You are in full melt down mode. No I did not. Go find it then. It is here. I said defensive coaches have symposiums in the off season. I said you can absolutely bet that Perry Fewell, and whoever is coaching Dallas and Philly are going to go over tape on how to defense the Washington offense.
January 17th, 2013 at 5:56 pm
Q: Are you still talking to Norv Turner?
McKenzie: “No. I’m saying right from the beginning when we hit this thing running at the beginning. I specifically haven’t talked to Norv since…after he told me he was interested. So we move on.”
Q: He took the Cleveland job today…
McKenzie: “Yes, he took it today. But guys like Norv, Marc Trestman, we had our list down. But a lot of guys…there are other jobs out there. It’s like free agency. You wish that you could get certain guys, but sometimes you don’t always get certain guys, but you’ve got a list that you feel good about and that’s where we are now.”
Q: How many of them would you say you’ve already talked to? A handful?
McKenzie: “I would say…a few.”
Q: And your Super Bowl pick?
McKenzie: “I guess I’d have to go with pretty much everyone else. I’ve got to put my money on Tom Brady.”
Q: I don’t think you’re supposed to say, ‘put my money on.’ [Laughing]
McKenzie: “Considering I don’t have a dime…”
January 17th, 2013 at 5:56 pm
Your real problem with it is because this new approach in the nfl leaves palmer out in the cold
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Actually last time I looked of the final four Brady, Ryan, and Flacco are pocket passers. So is Kapernick, but he can also mix in a run and that is about to be defended, and make him make the long pass. Wrong as usual.
January 17th, 2013 at 5:56 pm
General Manager Reggie McKenzie’s opening statement: “I appreciate you all bearing with me and kind of getting some things straightened out here. At the end of the season, a lot is going on. This is kind of where my season picks up as you all well know, but I appreciate you guys waiting here. I want to get this thing before I head to the Senior Bowl. It’s going to start rolling again after the Senior Bowl. But I’m here to answer questions. The one thing I don’t want to do is give the other teams in the league any competitive advantage against the Oakland Raiders, so with that being said, certain questions will not be answered [in detail]. It all depends on what you ask, okay guys? I’m here for you guys. Shoot away.”
Q: So who are you going to draft?
McKenzie: “We’re not going to do that. You can ask…”
Q: Where are you in terms of filling out the coaching staff?
McKenzie: “It’s going well. We should be coming up with some answers shortly, but it’s progressing well.”
Q: Do you think you’ll have answers before the Senior Bowl?
McKenzie: “They’re winding down right now. All of them, no. But we’re trying to wrap them all up within in a few days, so we’ll see how it goes.”
Q: In terms of releasing information, are you going to wait until you have them all?
McKenzie: “Unless it’s one that’s further along, we may do a majority of them at one time, but we would like to just get them all done at once.”
Q: How involved are you in those interviews or is it mostly [Head Coach] Dennis [Allen]?
McKenzie: “We’re both involved and when you get down to the nitty-gritty of it, it’s Dennis, especially when you talk particulars, but we’re both involved.”
Q: When it comes to those particulars, is it philosophy, what are you looking for in an offensive coordinator?
McKenzie: “The entire gamut – not only philosophy, but particulars of how do you use certain players, not just scheme. It’s about the players, it’s about situations. It’s the entire gamut.”
Q: Is that kind of a learning process that you guys learn from last year, not just be married to the scheme, to actually adapt to personnel?
January 17th, 2013 at 5:58 pm
Raiders badly need playmakers on both sides of the ball.
I don’t care who says what about this kid but TP6 IS a playmaker and it would be a huge mistake not to take advantage of his God given abilities to win games. hue didn’t use him and neither did DA until the owner forced him to do it.
I say bring in Tebow as a convert him to a TE. He is a playmaker too.
Who’s with me?
January 17th, 2013 at 5:59 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 5:52 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 5:46 pm
bush you dont know what scout team means?
it means YOU ARE RUNNING THE OTHER TEAMS OFFENSE NOT YOUR OWN
LOL
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What your point is, is Pryor did not play with the ones.
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most of the teams the raiders played did not feature running qbs, in fact the first we read of pryor running scout team was prepping for newton.
he did so and was so impressive that week teamates and coaches raved and they started to get him on the field.
That tells you he was basically relegated to drills and lienart was getting most opf the scout team reps.
Pryor said this himself. if you dont believe him that fine.
I and most intelligent people will take him at his word.
Again though its funny that the practice issue is so big in your mind.
You cant stand the idea that he was so good with out the benefit of practice reps in his own offense.
he did it all on natural ability and hard earned accumulated knowledge on how a qb should play.
HE IS WHOOPIN” YO AZZ
lol
January 17th, 2013 at 6:00 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 5:52 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 5:46 pm
bush you dont know what scout team means?
it means YOU ARE RUNNING THE OTHER TEAMS OFFENSE NOT YOUR OWN
LOL
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I already told you this: most Q’s find the scout team a HUGE benefit to themselves, as they learn all kinds of different offenses and plays, and the coaching staff can see what plays the scout team runs well. It’s called practice. What your point is, is Pryor did not play with the ones. But he did play with the ones. He played with the ones all preseason, and he played with the ones in the week preparing for his start. But that is not the point. Pryor has been playing for a year and a half at the pro level and is STILL very inaccurate. That’s the point you continue to miss.
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seems you are reaching bush, how many good qb’s run the scout team? exactly so how does it benefit them?
January 17th, 2013 at 6:00 pm
My mo doesn’t change mystic I just thing Ur r the dumbest pos on this blog with nothing good to contribute u arnt even a raider fan Ur only here to spew Ur racist hate Fck off hater
January 17th, 2013 at 6:02 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 5:56 pm
Your real problem with it is because this new approach in the nfl leaves palmer out in the cold
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Actually last time I looked of the final four Brady, Ryan, and Flacco are pocket passers. So is Kapernick, but he can also mix in a run and that is about to be defended, and make him make the long pass. Wrong as usual.
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you know the hybrid is coming, and while flacco brady and ryan are excellent players they got in before the new pardigm was introduced into the nfl.
regardless of that fact all of the qbs you mentioned are light years better than your crest fallen hero palmer
January 17th, 2013 at 6:02 pm
From the sounds of the presser.. Nobody is guarenteed anything.
Reggie doesnt want to give away any info that teams can take advantage of like possible cutting ROMAC.. then they would have no leverage with a trade.
Same with Palmer getting right.. he still might hope there is a trade
Still wants out of wack contracts to get right
anything is possible as far as bringing in a new QB to compete with everyone and he will whether it be Flynn or draft a qb like GENO SMITH
He think Manti is a top 20 talent and wants to see this hoax thing playout
and he hasnt decided if he wants the 3rd pick or trade down.. will be interesting.
He wanted NORV.. but NORV turned him down.. Maybe reggie should have tried to hire Trestman last year as HC.
He probaly could have done something with this Offensive talent, but thats the past now
January 17th, 2013 at 6:03 pm
ian85 Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 6:00 pm
My mo doesn’t change mystic I just thing Ur r the dumbest pos on this blog with nothing good to contribute u arnt even a raider fan Ur only here to spew Ur racist hate Fck off hater
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funny you keep mentioning skin color yet you call me the racist
lol another loser upset that the wave of the future is sweeping through the nfl
January 17th, 2013 at 6:03 pm
Pastor Napoleon@napoleonkaufman
Philly wants TP6?!?! That’s not happenin…who said that?
January 17th, 2013 at 6:04 pm
Raiders are gonna hire some college OC out of left field. Its someone nobody has ever heard of.
I just have a feeling…
January 17th, 2013 at 6:04 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 5:56 pm
Your real problem with it is because this new approach in the nfl leaves palmer out in the cold
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Actually last time I looked of the final four Brady, Ryan, and Flacco are pocket passers. So is Kapernick, but he can also mix in a run and that is about to be defended, and make him make the long pass. Wrong as usual.
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Kappy is not a pocket passer.
January 17th, 2013 at 6:05 pm
peace cross posters and impostors
i love that big mack made the statmnets pro pryor and pryor is a major cog in the hiring of the new oc
That will give me something to care about and look forward to next year.
January 17th, 2013 at 6:08 pm
so does this mean arizona will be an arian nation?
January 17th, 2013 at 6:08 pm
Actually last time I looked of the final four Brady, Ryan, and Flacco are pocket passers. So is Kapernick, but he can also mix in a run and that is about to be defended, and make him make the long pass. Wrong as usual.
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1 out of 4 aint bad and could have easily have been 2 out of 4.
January 17th, 2013 at 6:09 pm
HE IS WHOOPIN” YO AZZ
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8 for 22 for 70 yards is not whooping anyones ass. Unless they suck.
January 17th, 2013 at 6:09 pm
Not with the high Latino population that is Cards fans lol
January 17th, 2013 at 6:10 pm
Reggie like Terrelle Pryor, wants to see and OC create something for him and finds out what he does best.
he will at least get preseason to show more that he can be a starter.
Its gonna really be up to Pryor this offseason.
I wouldnt be suprised if Raiders took Geno Smith too. Geno would be a nice pickup for this team. Something to build around.
Pryor could be a RZ target ..out jump the Corners
January 17th, 2013 at 6:12 pm
seems you are reaching bush, how many good qb’s run the scout team? exactly so how does it benefit them?
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Go up and read it again. I break down how it helps them. Guys like Tom Brady and Tony Romo ran their scout teams. In fact Russell Wilson was probably running the scout team early in training camps. Mistics ridiculous point was that Pryor did not practice. In fact for a year and a half Pryor has been playing against the NFL ones on defense. That is pretty good practice is you ask me.
January 17th, 2013 at 6:13 pm
Ppl keep bringing up pryors 1st game stats.. but reggie like the way he did motions, got them in the huddle, created plays of the fly, took care of the football.
Alot of stuff that doesnt go into the stat sheet. He is the number 2 qb at this point.
It will be a battle in training camp. Pryor is gonna hve to work hard this offeseason and show more in PRESEASON.
No matter what anyone says here. Only he can improve his situation. I know he will be training like an animal. Good luck
January 17th, 2013 at 6:14 pm
Howie Long on Mobile QB’s:
Meanwhile, Falcons defensive coordinator Mike Nolan has been preparing to ensure the same fate doesn’t befall him in the NFC Championship Game on Sunday at the Georgia Dome. As Fox analyst and Hall of Fame defensive end Howie Long noted, a dual-threat quarterback such as Kaepernick has the ability to beat – and embarrass – a defense. And its coordinator.
“Green Bay, you almost felt bad for them,” Long said. “It was a case of, whatever we’re guessing, we’re wrong. Do we play zone? Do we rush? Are we aggressive? Are we conservative? Do we spy? Do we play contain? That’s the quandary that Mike Nolan is in.”
http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/2013/01/16/49ers-keep-defensive-coordinator-guessing/
January 17th, 2013 at 6:15 pm
Pryor works on his game in the offseason comes to mini camp an even better passer and skys the limit.
January 17th, 2013 at 6:17 pm
Kappy is not a pocket passer.
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Actually in the last five or six games, with the exception of the New England game the Whiners had Kaep sit in the pocket and make the throws. Which he did well. I think he only ran once in the season finale. It was only in the GB game that he turned back to running.
January 17th, 2013 at 6:17 pm
That video where pryor is working with ochocino on utube proves he has the arm.. he just needs to know when to zip it and when to take off some of his throws with more touch.
He was trying to aim to hard. But even REGGIE MCKENZIE said today. PRYOR made some good throws in his 1st game.
Something to be excited for if ur Pryor and work hard work hard work hard. Critics are not gonna get it done for u.. its gonna be up to PRYOR now. Every movie or book starts like.. “A man with a dream”
January 17th, 2013 at 6:18 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 6:15 pm
Pryor works on his game in the offseason comes to mini camp an even better passer and skys the limit.
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I would agree with that.
January 17th, 2013 at 6:18 pm
Reggie has as much credibility as Lance Armstrong.
January 17th, 2013 at 6:20 pm
Unfortunately for Nolan, he can’t draw on a history with Kaepernick, whose 181 rushing yards against Green Bay has centered much of the pre-game focus on how the Falcons can limit his scrambles and read-option runs.
The 49ers threw a curveball Saturday by unleashing Kaepernick’s legs after he’d rushed for only 64 yards in the final three regular-season games. Long noted they have the ability to shift gears again Sunday with the Falcons potentially devoting resources such as a “spy” to track Kaepernick’s every move.
Armed with one of the NFL’s best offensive lines, the 49ers could probe the middle of an undersized front four that averages 271 pounds. Atlanta ranked 21st in the NFL in run defense (123.2 yards a game) this season and defensive end John Abraham is nursing an ankle injury that limited him to 15 snaps Sunday against Seattle.
“This is an offense that can morph into a number of different things,” Long said. “… They can go to the classic 49ers offense that we’ve seen over the last couple of years that will pound you and go big. But then they can go to a pistol, a read-option and designed runs for Colin which we saw last week.”
With his unique blend of speed, arm strength and accuracy, Kaepernick is viewed as a new breed of NFL quarterback, along with dual-threat rookies such as Seattle’s Russell Wilson and Washington’s Robert Griffin III.
http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/2013/01/16/49ers-keep-defensive-coordinator-guessing/
January 17th, 2013 at 6:21 pm
Dennis Allen changed the culture in the locker room? What in the heck is that?
January 17th, 2013 at 6:21 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 6:12 pm
seems you are reaching bush, how many good qb’s run the scout team? exactly so how does it benefit them?
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Go up and read it again. I break down how it helps them. Guys like Tom Brady and Tony Romo ran their scout teams. In fact Russell Wilson was probably running the scout team early in training camps. Mistics ridiculous point was that Pryor did not practice. In fact for a year and a half Pryor has been playing against the NFL ones on defense. That is pretty good practice is you ask me.
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LOL Brady hasnt run a scout team in how may years? That has zero to do with his success, and to bring up Romo does nothing for your argument. Mistick got the best of you on that one, hey cant win’em all. I’m not a big fan of a guy with a handle like that but he does make sense from time to time.
January 17th, 2013 at 6:24 pm
Missdick may jump off a bridge tonite. He’s frothing at the mouth. He is making a fool of himself.
Missdick screamed about how Reggie “mentioned” griffin, Wilson and kaepernick. Well, so what. He was asked what he thought about that offense and those qb’s success. But he DIDN’T mention Pryor did he? Then, he actually goes on to say basically that u can’t just run. U have to be able PASS the ball. He goes on about being able to make all the throws, etc. he’s obviously alluding to Pryor and how he has to be able to all those things if he’s gonna have the success of the others. But he does NOT say Pryor WILL do those things.
Missdick–ur making an azz of urself pal. The I yet ire actually supports what a lot of us have been saying. Pryor isn’t the same as those others.
Ur painting urself into a corner. I fear for ur safety when this all shakes out.
January 17th, 2013 at 6:24 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 6:15 pm
Pryor works on his game in the offseason comes to mini camp an even better passer and skys the limit.
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Agree. But some in here get a real boner hoping he fails. Must be tough to be stiff all the time creaming for someone to fail. But it’s all wide open. I hope the best man wins the right to start at QB and we got a OC who’ll tailor the offense to fit our personnel.
January 17th, 2013 at 6:25 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 6:17 pm
Kappy is not a pocket passer.
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Actually in the last five or six games, with the exception of the New England game the Whiners had Kaep sit in the pocket and make the throws. Which he did well. I think he only ran once in the season finale. It was only in the GB game that he turned back to running.
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Ill say it again Kappy is not a pocket passer.
January 17th, 2013 at 6:25 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 6:13 pm
Ppl keep bringing up pryors 1st game stats.. but reggie like the way he did motions, got them in the huddle, created plays of the fly, took care of the football.
Alot of stuff that doesnt go into the stat sheet. He is the number 2 qb at this point.
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What McKenzie is saying is when you change Q’s it throws the entire rhythm of the offense off. So just being settled, getting the plays called, getting in and out of the huddle with a minimum amount of false starts and other mishaps is huge. And in that sense, Pryor did exceptionally well. He certainly can run an NFL offense. And That is major thing.
If Mistic said that, I would completely agree with him and agree that is big. But when McKenzie says that Pryor is number two, he is only number two because there are only two Q’s on the roster. And then McKenzie makes it a point that he is going to bring someone else in.
January 17th, 2013 at 6:29 pm
2romes Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 6:21 pm
Dennis Allen changed the culture in the locker room? What in the heck is that?
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Sounds like something out of a science class room. The only thing Allen did was get us from a promising 8-8 to 4-12. HCs get fired for less than that. Maybe Reggie list his boner for knapp but he still has some wood for Allen.
January 17th, 2013 at 6:29 pm
Ill say it again Kappy is not a pocket passer.
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All true NFL Q’s are pocket passers. That is the NUMBER ONE thing they have to be. Russell Wilson is a pocket passer. RGIII is a pocket passer. It is just that those two have an additional dimension to their games where they can take off with the rock if need be. They can also throw on the run which is another attribute. As with anything else on earth, the more things you can do and do well, the more valuable you are.
January 17th, 2013 at 6:31 pm
Exactly proving my point mystic u r a dumb pos 3 out of the 4 qbs left r pocket passers wave of the future my arse and sf would be were they r even with smith cuz unfortunately they have the best team in the NFL
January 17th, 2013 at 6:31 pm
Who in the Hell says Kappy is a pocket passer? Howie Long says diff.
Meanwhile, Falcons defensive coordinator Mike Nolan has been preparing to ensure the same fate doesn’t befall him in the NFC Championship Game on Sunday at the Georgia Dome. As Fox analyst and Hall of Fame defensive end Howie Long noted, a dual-threat quarterback such as Kaepernick has the ability to beat – and embarrass – a defense. And its coordinator.
“Green Bay, you almost felt bad for them,” Long said. “It was a case of, whatever we’re guessing, we’re wrong. Do we play zone? Do we rush? Are we aggressive? Are we conservative? Do we spy? Do we play contain? That’s the quandary that Mike Nolan is in.”
http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/2013/01/16/49ers-keep-defensive-coordinator-guessing/
January 17th, 2013 at 6:32 pm
LOL hey bush DAllen down the stretch?
January 17th, 2013 at 6:33 pm
Missdick is the classic hater. He WANTS us to hate black qb’s so if they succeed, he can roll around in it like slop. He’s the kinda guy that revels in making people hate him. He wants white people to be against him. That way it’s “us vs. them”. He makes a lot of people want to root against Pryor and the other new wavers he craves.
But he means nothing. I like Pryor. I just don’t think he’s anywhere near as good a passer as the Fab Four. And I like those other guys too. Missdick can’t make me hate anyone. He’s a miserable little man and he desperately wants to “win something”. But the poor little wretch doesn’t realize if Pryor succeeds, it won’t mean he wins. He’s delusional and he places his life’s hopes and dreams on athletes who don’t have anything to do with his life.
Poor guy.
January 17th, 2013 at 6:34 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 6:29 pm
Ill say it again Kappy is not a pocket passer.
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All true NFL Q’s are pocket passers. That is the NUMBER ONE thing they have to be. Russell Wilson is a pocket passer. RGIII is a pocket passer. It is just that those two have an additional dimension to their games where they can take off with the rock if need be. They can also throw on the run which is another attribute. As with anything else on earth, the more things you can do and do well, the more valuable you are.
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lol have it your way.
January 17th, 2013 at 6:34 pm
“Yeah, right from the beginning when stuff started to hit the fan, we talked to Norv Turner. We talked to all of them. We talked to a lot of guys, but we’re winding it down now to a couple of guys and we’ll see.”
Translation: not one of them would take the job and well see who is left standing after senior bowl. We’re down to Tice and Martz.
January 17th, 2013 at 6:36 pm
Meanwhile, Falcons defensive coordinator Mike Nolan has been preparing to ensure the same fate doesn’t befall him in the NFC Championship Game on Sunday at the Georgia Dome. As Fox analyst and Hall of Fame defensive end Howie Long noted, a dual-threat quarterback such as Kaepernick has the ability to beat – and embarrass – a defense. And its coordinator.
“Green Bay, you almost felt bad for them,” Long said. “It was a case of, whatever we’re guessing, we’re wrong. Do we play zone? Do we rush? Are we aggressive? Are we conservative? Do we spy? Do we play contain? That’s the quandary that Mike Nolan is in.”
http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/2013/01/16/49ers-keep-defensive-coordinator-guessing/
January 17th, 2013 at 6:36 pm
2romes Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 6:21 pm
Dennis Allen changed the culture in the locker room? What in the heck is that?
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You know like brining in guys like Joselio Hansen who kok off to a superstar such as Anquan Boldin while we’re down 30 points.
Denise affected the culture like Teo’s girlfriend affected his play in the BCS title game.
January 17th, 2013 at 6:36 pm
Carson Palmer is Jeff George mixed with Jay Schroder.
Oh wait, those guys won playoff games.
January 17th, 2013 at 6:36 pm
WASSUP DAWGS
Gettin ready to uncork a four course meal from outback. A epic and brilliant deuce to top off a good dinner. The a sak polish before my video shoot. This one will be called ’sir lancelot has very big balls’.
WHUT WHUT AND A CROOKED NUTT
January 17th, 2013 at 6:36 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 6:21 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 6:12 pm
seems you are reaching bush, how many good qb’s run the scout team? exactly so how does it benefit them?
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Go up and read it again. I break down how it helps them. Guys like Tom Brady and Tony Romo ran their scout teams. In fact Russell Wilson was probably running the scout team early in training camps. Mistics ridiculous point was that Pryor did not practice. In fact for a year and a half Pryor has been playing against the NFL ones on defense. That is pretty good practice is you ask me.
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LOL Brady hasnt run a scout team in how may years? That has zero to do with his success, and to bring up Romo does nothing for your argument. Mistick got the best of you on that one, hey cant win’em all. I’m not a big fan of a guy with a handle like that but he does make sense from time to time.
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Well again I am sure running the scout team helped Brady learn how to play against NFL ones and build his confidence. I will bet it had a lot to do with his success. It is a little disingenous to complain about how many scout guys have honed their skills because almost EVERY Q in the league is a high draft choice. Not too many guys “work their way up.”
January 17th, 2013 at 6:38 pm
Howie Long’s take on Mobile QB’s
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Meanwhile, Falcons defensive coordinator Mike Nolan has been preparing to ensure the same fate doesn’t befall him in the NFC Championship Game on Sunday at the Georgia Dome. As Fox analyst and Hall of Fame defensive end Howie Long noted, a dual-threat quarterback such as Kaepernick has the ability to beat – and embarrass – a defense. And its coordinator.
“Green Bay, you almost felt bad for them,” Long said. “It was a case of, whatever we’re guessing, we’re wrong. Do we play zone? Do we rush? Are we aggressive? Are we conservative? Do we spy? Do we play contain? That’s the quandary that Mike Nolan is in.”
http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/2013/01/16/49ers-keep-defensive-coordinator-guessing/
January 17th, 2013 at 6:38 pm
Dr_robert Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 6:33 pm
Missdick is the classic hater. He WANTS us to hate black qb’s so if they succeed, he can roll around in it like slop. He’s the kinda guy that revels in making people hate him. He wants white people to be against him. That way it’s “us vs. them”. He makes a lot of people want to root against Pryor and the other new wavers he craves.
But he means nothing. I like Pryor. I just don’t think he’s anywhere near as good a passer as the Fab Four. And I like those other guys too. Missdick can’t make me hate anyone. He’s a miserable little man and he desperately wants to “win something”. But the poor little wretch doesn’t realize if Pryor succeeds, it won’t mean he wins. He’s delusional and he places his life’s hopes and dreams on athletes who don’t have anything to do with his life.
Poor guy.
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You are just as bad off because you hang on his every word, I bet you talk about mistic to your peers in your daily life. Mistic owns you and a bunch of other guys too.
January 17th, 2013 at 6:38 pm
Missdick thinks none of us understand the new offense. We do.
He thinks we hate black qb’s. we don’t.
We just realize Pryor ain’t those guys. And his insistence that Pryor was great in week 17 loses him all credibility cuz it means one of two things:
1) he doesn’t know what a good pass looks like.
2) he’s a liar cuz he’s blind with hate and frenzied with the idea he will be able to tell us all he told us so.
But it’s clear to any objective viewer that Pryor seriously struggled passing the ball. Reggie alluded to it. We all saw it. It’s obvious.
January 17th, 2013 at 6:39 pm
Wonder if teo has the nads to play in the nfl.
January 17th, 2013 at 6:39 pm
OUR NEW OC HAS BEEN HIRED! Shreg liked him in Green Bay too!
http://wesleybauman.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/packers-fan.jpg
January 17th, 2013 at 6:41 pm
Hopefully the new offensive coordinator and find a way to see what he can do best in this off-season and see what he looks like in preseason games.”
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Now before anyone freaks out and starts pulling out “golden haired hero” comments and what not, let the record show I spent all morning bashing Carson. He is not the answer, IMO.
But when I read the above quote, it gives me no other feeling than Reggie wants to make TP a gimmick player.
To see what he does best? If you play QB, it is playing QB isn’t it?
Did Josh McDaniels go into New England and say we will see what Brady does best?
We all know what TP does best, run around, make people miss.
Call me crazy, but that quote tells me Reggie wants the new OC to develop specific packages of plays for TP, like Slash Stewart.
Could work well, just doesn’t sound like an ode to a future starting QB.
January 17th, 2013 at 6:41 pm
Dennis Allen down the stretch? Anyone? crikets lol.
January 17th, 2013 at 6:42 pm
Doubt Barkley has the nads to be a elite QB. But I guess it depends where he lands. Hope Reggie has the nads to hire a OC with some buffalo nutz.
January 17th, 2013 at 6:42 pm
Eastoak– don’t be absurd. This is entertainment to me. I tell jokes. Talk football. Throw around the bigot for awhile. It’s sh1ts and giggles. Sometimes I even drop knowledge. Missdick means practically nothing other than fun.
He’s a drop in the bucket compared to the raiders for me. That’s why even if Pryor somehow made it, I’d be happy as can be cuz I’m a lifelong raider fan and that’s way more to me than that stooge.
And footballs a drop in the bucket in my life. So he is very tiny to me.
Nice try though. Keep working.
January 17th, 2013 at 6:43 pm
Dr. Rob,
You are 110% correct about Mistic.
Just agree with him, and he disappears. He feels he is smarter than everyone, and thrives on the I am right you are wrong schtick.
So just agree with him in passing, it drives him crazy.
Same with Priest for that matter.
January 17th, 2013 at 6:45 pm
Uh oh. When all the OCs have been signed, knapp will still be out there and Reggie will wind up signing him for league minimum and a gonad waxing.
January 17th, 2013 at 6:46 pm
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl–evaluators–too-early-to-know-whether-hoax-situation-will-hurt-manti-te-o-s–nfldraft-stock-193246637.html;_ylt=AkHz82l_beBD43Vb5PwyHMk5nYcB;_ylu=X3oDMTQ0NjJvNmc2BG1pdANGRUFUVVJFRCBNZWdhdHJvbiBTUE9SVFMgRlAEcGtnAzE1MDFlZDhiLWNlYzEtMzBjMy04ZWZjLTk0N2MxYzNhYzgzZgRwb3MDMgRzZWMDbWVnYXRyb24EdmVyAzAyMDRiYWYzLTYxMTgtMTFlMi1iZjhmLWQ5NDgwZTgzZDMxMQ–;_ylg=X3oDMTFpNzk0NjhtBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANob21lBHB0A3NlY3Rpb25z;_ylv=3
Most likely Reggie’s comments…
“He’s a good player, very smart and instinctive. At least when it comes to football,” an AFC team executive said. “He’ll come in and start for you, get a lot of tackles and do his job. You can win with guys like that and that’s what matters.”
and then a sane GM speaks…..
“That crazy stuff you heard earlier about him being a top-five pick, that was all hype. That’s the TV, media, Notre Dame-driven hype,” an NFC team scout said. “Inside linebackers, even great ones, don’t go that high. Unless you’re the next Dick Butkus or Ray Lewis and he’s not that. He’s not even as good as [New England inside linebacker] Jerod Mayo.”
January 17th, 2013 at 6:46 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 6:41 pm
Dennis Allen down the stretch? Anyone? crikets lol.
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What about Dennis Allen down the stretch?
January 17th, 2013 at 6:47 pm
Knapp will return with a splooge and a dance. Reggie will have to keep the splooge from splooging, or a stack of clean towels.
January 17th, 2013 at 6:48 pm
Fire mumbles and Denise it’s only been a year but it’s sooo overdue
January 17th, 2013 at 6:49 pm
Yes, I guess the only positive thing to talk about this season went on in the locker room. Dennis’s locker room pleases Reggie.
January 17th, 2013 at 6:49 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 6:46 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 6:41 pm
Dennis Allen down the stretch? Anyone? crikets lol.
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What about Dennis Allen down the stretch?
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You know what i’m talkn bout.
January 17th, 2013 at 6:50 pm
11 angry men….
nuff said….
January 17th, 2013 at 6:51 pm
The AFC west is running circles around us with all of there coaching improvements and we r stuck with these clowns forget 2013 look forward to 2014 when hopefully these losers r canned and we take clowney with the first pick
January 17th, 2013 at 6:51 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 6:46 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 6:41 pm
Dennis Allen down the stretch? Anyone? crikets lol.
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What about Dennis Allen down the stretch?
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Dont play dumb Bush, Hue 1-4 down the stretch, Dennis Allen?
January 17th, 2013 at 6:51 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 6:49 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 6:46 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 6:41 pm
Dennis Allen down the stretch? Anyone? crikets lol.
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What about Dennis Allen down the stretch?
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You know what i’m talkn bout.
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He didn’t go 1-4 like Hue did remember?
January 17th, 2013 at 6:52 pm
an85 Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 6:51 pm
The AFC west is running circles around us with all of there coaching improvements and we r stuck with these clowns forget 2013 look forward to 2014 when hopefully these losers r canned and we take clowney with the first pick
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That’s when Mark gets out his trust fund to sign Gruden.
January 17th, 2013 at 6:54 pm
The_Civilian_James_Trapp
2014 is when hopefully Mark Davis is no longer the owner of the Oakland Raiders.
January 17th, 2013 at 6:55 pm
Jackasspuria Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 6:54 pm
The_Civilian_James_Trapp
2014 is when hopefully Mark Davis is no longer the owner of the Oakland Raiders.
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LOL! Only if he does what the NFL asks & sells them to an LA group
January 17th, 2013 at 6:55 pm
Ian85
AFC West is running circles around the Raiders because of Mark Davis.
He’s the guy that hired McKenzie.
January 17th, 2013 at 6:57 pm
I really pray u r right civilian James
January 17th, 2013 at 6:58 pm
Crap rolls downhill.
People putting blame on McKenzie and Allen.
Reall blame starts at the top with — Mark Davis.
January 17th, 2013 at 6:59 pm
Jackass I kno that mark is killing us he hired mumbles and mumbles hired Denise and Denise hired knapp it doesn’t really get much worst than that we r FCKED
January 17th, 2013 at 6:59 pm
Dont play dumb Bush, Hue 1-4 down the stretch, Dennis Allen?
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You can’t compare it. The difference between last years team and this years team is night and day. And same thing with next years team. Some teams, you can compare. Whiners last year, and Whiners this year you can compare. Basically they changed Q’s and added Randy Moss. But most of the starters are the same. Our team is completely different. Different owner, different GM, different HC, different coordinators, different players. It is not really comparable. But what you normally see with first year coaching staffs is teams come out play hard, the league catches up, they have a bad streak, and then the true telling nature is do they play better at the end. That certainly happened here on the defensive side.
January 17th, 2013 at 7:00 pm
yep Mark fired Hue which is when the snowball affect started.
January 17th, 2013 at 7:00 pm
Has anyone here been praising Allen? Or really even Reggie at this point? U guys keep acting like there these tremendously pro DA and Reggie guys. Who?
The most that has been said they deserve another year. I’m not thrilled with what I’ve seen. But there have been some positives. I’m reserving judgement until I see more. Why haven’t they made their hires? I don’t know. Maybe it will surprise us. Maybe it will disappoint us. Maybe it will simply puzzle us. I know u guys are anxious but let it play out for crying out loud.
Positives:
Some solid player additions.
Defensive improvement at the end.
Some solid subtractions.
That’s a out it so far. Underwhelming but I will give it more time. Partially cuz that’s all I can do.
January 17th, 2013 at 7:01 pm
Dawg Lawg. Don’t step in it. Nuff said.
Dawg Lawg. Amazing size and girth. Nuff said.
Super Dawg. Wave of the future. In the buff. Nuff said.
January 17th, 2013 at 7:02 pm
On the lighter side of sports — not really, but — this whole Manti Te’o-girlfriend hoax thing is out of this world.
Disturbing, but an interesting read.
January 17th, 2013 at 7:03 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 6:59 pm
Dont play dumb Bush, Hue 1-4 down the stretch, Dennis Allen?
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You can’t compare it. The difference between last years team and this years team is night and day. And same thing with next years team. Some teams, you can compare. Whiners last year, and Whiners this year you can compare. Basically they changed Q’s and added Randy Moss. But most of the starters are the same. Our team is completely different. Different owner, different GM, different HC, different coordinators, different players. It is not really comparable. But what you normally see with first year coaching staffs is teams come out play hard, the league catches up, they have a bad streak, and then the true telling nature is do they play better at the end. That certainly happened here on the defensive side.
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I figured you would come up with a bunch of BS excuses.
January 17th, 2013 at 7:03 pm
Reggie and Allen pulled a lot of boners. Amateur hour without real nutz.
January 17th, 2013 at 7:04 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 7:00 pm
yep Mark fired Hue which is when the snowball affect started.
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Uh, going winless to end the season with the playoffs on the line? Including some bad blow out losses? Maybe that is when the snowball actually started.
January 17th, 2013 at 7:04 pm
Reggie and Allen ran this show into the ditch. Nuff said.
January 17th, 2013 at 7:05 pm
Super Lawg
And Mark Davis allowed it. Nuff said.
January 17th, 2013 at 7:05 pm
I figured you would come up with a bunch of BS excuses.
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What BS excuse? Has Hue been hired yet? There is a reason: he is not that good.
January 17th, 2013 at 7:09 pm
Hue 8-8 with much more adversity, Allen 4-12 with a healthy Palmer and dmac in camp and mojority of the season. but that water under the bridge.
January 17th, 2013 at 7:09 pm
For all his talents as a play caller and designer, the knock on Hubris is he is a cut throat son of a gun and will back stab colleagues in a blink of an eye.
Huh… now that I think of it… Hubris’ demeanor is Mike Martz-esque…
January 17th, 2013 at 7:09 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 6:59 pm
Dont play dumb Bush, Hue 1-4 down the stretch, Dennis Allen?
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You can’t compare it. The difference between last years team and this years team is night and day. And same thing with next years team. Some teams, you can compare. Whiners last year, and Whiners this year you can compare. Basically they changed Q’s and added Randy Moss. But most of the starters are the same. Our team is completely different. Different owner, different GM, different HC, different coordinators, different players. It is not really comparable. But what you normally see with first year coaching staffs is teams come out play hard, the league catches up, they have a bad streak, and then the true telling nature is do they play better at the end. That certainly happened here on the defensive side.
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Darn tootin Seymour Bush. I agree. DA and Big Mac will shut everyone in here up once their genius shines thru like sunburst after a rainy morning. Birds will be a chirpin. How can anyone say DA and Big Mac fcked up is beyond understanding. Go Raiders. Yeah baby. Go DA and Big Mac. Yeah baby.
January 17th, 2013 at 7:11 pm
You can’t compare it. The difference between last years team and this years team is night and day. And same thing with next years team. Some teams, you can compare. Whiners last year, and Whiners this year you can compare. Basically they changed Q’s and added Randy Moss. But most of the starters are the same. Our team is completely different. Different owner, different GM, different HC, different coordinators, different players. It is not really comparable. But what you normally see with first year coaching staffs is teams come out play hard, the league catches up, they have a bad streak, and then the true telling nature is do they play better at the end. That certainly happened here on the defensive side.
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this BS.
January 17th, 2013 at 7:11 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 7:05 pm
I figured you would come up with a bunch of BS excuses.
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What BS excuse? Has Hue been hired yet? There is a reason: he is not that good.
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No, black guys are just getting the shaft this year. Unless you think Lovie & Hue aren’t more qualified to be a HC & OC than the rest of these idiots getting jobs.
January 17th, 2013 at 7:13 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 7:00 pm
yep Mark fired Hue which is when the snowball affect started.
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After 2 8-8 seasons, Marky Mark wanted to escape daddy’s shadow so he had to change for the sake of change…In 11 months from now he will finding how much $ he needs to sign Gruden.
January 17th, 2013 at 7:14 pm
Hue could only dream of having CP3 and DMAC in his scheme together. Allen had this benefit and fcked it off.
January 17th, 2013 at 7:14 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 7:05 pm
I figured you would come up with a bunch of BS excuses.
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What BS excuse? Has Hue been hired yet? There is a reason: he is not that good.
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I agree with Seymour Bush. Big Mac is da man. How anybody can say DA and Big Mac fcked up is beyond understanding. DA and Big Mac will shine like sunburst on a rainy day. Birds will be a chirpin. Big Mac. Yeah baby. DA. Yeah baby. Go Raiders.
January 17th, 2013 at 7:15 pm
What BS excuse? Has Hue been hired yet? There is a reason: he is not that good.
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8-8 is twice as good as 4-12. So, Hue is twice as good as DA.
January 17th, 2013 at 7:17 pm
DMAC and CP3 in Knapps scheme = what you got this season
DMAC and CP3 in Hues scheme = playoffs
January 17th, 2013 at 7:19 pm
Getting back to who will be our OC – I can talk to Mike Martz = HORRIBLE as in worse than Knapp !!
Martz screams and yells at his players, gets frustrated real fast, is NOT comitted to the RUN, plays a high percent of pass plays as 5 reciever sets leaving little to know one to block. His QB’s have been hurt bad in almost all places with the exception of Kurt Warner and that was because they had an incredible O-Line that included Orlando Pace. We have a very MEDIOCRE O-Line, and CP wiould be smashed in a Mike Marrtz Offense. Possibly the same same coach that coache Colin Kaepernick may be a better option. I just hope McKenzie and DA don’t screw this up.
January 17th, 2013 at 7:24 pm
If Norv went to the browns instead of us as OC even though Al is gone shows a problem. Nobody wants to work underneath DA, a problem child.
January 17th, 2013 at 7:24 pm
Eastoaklandraider Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 7:14 pm
Hue could only dream of having CP3 and DMAC in his scheme together. Allen had this benefit and fcked it off.
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Hue 8-8
Allen 4-12
Numbers don’t lie. But DA and Big Mac are delicate geniuses. Give them time. Give them space. We will improve to 2-14 next season. Yeah baby. Go Raiders. This is OAKGLEN. I have spoken. Like a lonely coyote who howls at the lonely moon. And only the moon listens. Sometimes I hook up with a horny coyote and we go at it for a spell. I am OAKGLEN. The one and only one. Like a horny dog wandering the sidewalks at night lookin for some cootch but a garbage can will do. Peace y’all. My Raider bruthas.
January 17th, 2013 at 7:26 pm
Yahoo! Sports’ Mike Silver reports Todd Bowles will replace Ray Horton as the Cardinals’ defensive coordinator.
…..
I bet Horton ends up in San Diego
January 17th, 2013 at 7:28 pm
Lots of lies and liars being exposed.
Lance Armstrong
Manti teo (maybe)
Missdick
January 17th, 2013 at 7:30 pm
461.The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 7:11 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 7:05 pm
I figured you would come up with a bunch of BS excuses.
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What BS excuse? Has Hue been hired yet? There is a reason: he is not that good.
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No, black guys are just getting the shaft this year. Unless you think Lovie & Hue aren’t more qualified to be a HC & OC than the rest of these idiots getting jobs.
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Well, Lovie isn’t getting any DC offers because he said he only wants a HC position. A little surprised he didn’t get any HC offers , but he did have more than a few years to get the offense going when he was a head coach in Chicago and wasn’t able to do that on a consistent basis. So, that might have something to do with it.
Hue has a reputation, no question about it. It’s been alluded to more than once. His performance in Oakland was better than Knapp’s, but hardly exceptional. He did some really boneheaded things while wearing the headset here and didn’t seem to learn from his mistakes. I’m not buying the Bresnehan excuse when it comes to the total collapse of the team late in his final season either, and I don’t think the rest of the NFL is, either. If the guy had the power to trade two top draft picks for a quarterback, then he had the power to do something about his D-coordinator as well. Did nothing, and also oversaw the most undisciplined team in Raider history when it came to penalties (which is something, if you think about it). Melted down at the end of the year, publicly. Can’t do that.
Lovie not getting anywhere is a mild surprise. Hue? Not at all.
January 17th, 2013 at 7:31 pm
Relentless Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 7:24 pm
If Norv went to the browns instead of us as OC even though Al is gone shows a problem. Nobody wants to work underneath DA, a problem child.
ZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZ
Wonder what that would smell like. DA and Reggie will not get a top flight OC. They’ll have to rummage thru the dumpster. That much has been clearly evident.
January 17th, 2013 at 7:32 pm
So Reggie says” I’s beens inpressed wiff Dennis”. This oranga is dumber than half this blog,which are the dumbest football fans in the world. You got to be shten me Reggie. Go the fk back to GreenBay!
January 17th, 2013 at 7:34 pm
471.dr_robert Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 7:28 pm
Lots of lies and liars being exposed.
Lance Armstrong
Manti teo (maybe)
Missdick
And you being a millionair.
January 17th, 2013 at 7:34 pm
Oakfshow
From the moment I laid eyes on Mark Davis’ Lloyd Christmas ‘Dumb & Dumber’ haircut, I knew he would cripple the Raiders organization.
January 17th, 2013 at 7:37 pm
476.jackasspuria Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 7:34 pm
Oakfshow
From the moment I laid eyes on Mark Davis’ Lloyd Christmas ‘Dumb & Dumber’ haircut, I knew he would cripple the Raiders organization.
lol.certainly the ugliest team in the nfl.Between Marks hair and Reggies bottom lip.
January 17th, 2013 at 7:38 pm
As an OC he took the 31st ranked offense at 12.3/game & made it #6 at 25.6. Go look at the roster in 2010 and tell me how that’s not exceptional. Then go look at what he dealt with last year & tell me it doesn’t blow away what Denise did.
Lovie put some great & competitive teams together in Chicago and one season where they took Rex Grossman to the super bowl. I’d say he deserves a job over Bradly, Marrone, Arians & McCoy.
January 17th, 2013 at 7:38 pm
I like that Reggie wants to do it right. You plant a fruit tree and it takes a couple if years to bring forth fruit. Everybody wants it now. Well I’m afraid DAs and Reggie’s plan is going to have to wait till the new regime takes root and the fruit is ripe enough to pluck. Till then, just have to run a little lean. Just say no to bad apples.
January 17th, 2013 at 7:39 pm
This interview took place last week, a day after Norv was hired by the Browns
January 17th, 2013 at 7:40 pm
Jokefoshow–why do u even come here? Do u have brain damage? I never said I was a millionaire. I told u I lived in Sunnyvale, where a lot of millionaires love. I told u I grew up in Indiana. And somehow u continually come here and say I said I’m a millionaire from Sunnyvale, Indiana. Are u serious that dumb? Of course ur jokes are childish and stupid, maybe that’s ur idea of a weird joke?
Why don’t u stop coming here? Has anyone ever agreed with u on anything?
U are anti-black while u reference hip hop in ur handle with “fo sho”, which u mangled into show.
And u make physical threats on a message board, which is the biggest joke of all.
January 17th, 2013 at 7:41 pm
479.Carlton Lassider Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 7:38 pm
I like that Reggie wants to do it right. You plant a fruit tree and it takes a couple if years to bring forth fruit. Everybody wants it now. Well I’m afraid DAs and Reggie’s plan is going to have to wait till the new regime takes root and the fruit is ripe enough to pluck. Till then, just have to run a little lean. Just say no to bad apples.
These two will be fired right before we pick #1 overall next year or probably sooner.They suck.Dont have any dillusion’s.
January 17th, 2013 at 7:42 pm
RaiderDirt
From the Associated Press story on McKenzie…
“McKenzie spoke to beat reporters on Thursday for the first time since Nov. 30″
That is Thursday, Jan. 17, 2013.
January 17th, 2013 at 7:42 pm
Jokefoshow likes to rep Compton and talk hip hop. But he hates blacks. Confused little guy. White Internet gangsta. That is a joke fo-sho.
January 17th, 2013 at 7:44 pm
“Chargers hire Ken Whisenhunt as offensive coordinator”
Looks like the Charger offense will be good again.
DA better get somebody good.
January 17th, 2013 at 7:44 pm
481.dr_robert Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 7:40 pm
Jokefoshow–why do u even come here? Do u have brain damage? I never said I was a millionaire. I told u I lived in Sunnyvale, where a lot of millionaires love. I told u I grew up in Indiana. And somehow u continually come here and say I said I’m a millionaire from Sunnyvale, Indiana. Are u serious that dumb? Of course ur jokes are childish and stupid, maybe that’s ur idea of a weird joke?
Why don’t u stop coming here? Has anyone ever agreed with u on anything?
U are anti-black while u reference hip hop in ur handle with “fo sho”, which u mangled into show.
And u make physical threats on a message board, which is the biggest joke of all.
Backtracking is what you do best big money.Now go play in the corn fields you cok.
January 17th, 2013 at 7:44 pm
Jackasspuria Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 7:34 pm
Oakfshow
From the moment I laid eyes on Mark Davis’ Lloyd Christmas ‘Dumb & Dumber’ haircut, I knew he would cripple the Raiders organization.
…
Mark is a rock star from another world. He is one of those rare millionaires who dress like a rag doll. He is a mega star. You have to be special to hang in his orbit.
January 17th, 2013 at 7:47 pm
I’m scared to see what the Raiders staff is going to consist of. I already hate them. Just gonna get worse. I’m tired of waiting for fruit to grow on my trees so I take my ass to the store. Reg’s fatass knows this all too well.
January 17th, 2013 at 7:47 pm
The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 7:38 pm
As an OC he took the 31st ranked offense at 12.3/game & made it #6 at 25.6. Go look at the roster in 2010 and tell me how that’s not exceptional. Then go look at what he dealt with last year & tell me it doesn’t blow away what Denise did.
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Preach
January 17th, 2013 at 7:48 pm
It’s dilusions. There is no apostrophe. I remember u having problems with hyphens before.
Apostrophes show ownership or a combo of words.
Like:
“That’s (that is) one of jokefoshow’s jokes. So stupid.”
January 17th, 2013 at 7:48 pm
Wheat Bread
You know who’s a rag doll millionaire rockstar?
Bill Belichick.
The New England Patriots head coach pulls in a cool $7.5 million annually and looks like a hobo when he’s on the sidelines coaching.
January 17th, 2013 at 7:50 pm
Raiders 13-3. You heard it here first. Allen will be back with a vengeance to avenge the beat down and humiliation he incurred in his rookie debut. He is pissed about the ass wiping he took and won’t stand for it no more. Dude will prove he has a sack.
January 17th, 2013 at 7:51 pm
478.The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 7:38 pm
As an OC he took the 31st ranked offense at 12.3/game & made it #6 at 25.6. Go look at the roster in 2010 and tell me how that’s not exceptional. Then go look at what he dealt with last year & tell me it doesn’t blow away what Denise did.
Lovie put some great & competitive teams together in Chicago and one season where they took Rex Grossman to the super bowl. I’d say he deserves a job over Bradly, Marrone, Arians & McCoy.
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I believe I DID say that Hue was much better than Knapp. I also know that there are some rose-colored rear view mirrors out there, that Hue never had Jamarcus Russell rammed down his throat, and that his playcalling blunders and failures to make halftime adjustments that resulted in teams coming back on the Raiders time after time are conveniently forgotten by quite a few in here that want to place all of the blame for those comebacks on the defense (which Hue was responsible for, by the way). I’m sure we don’t need to rehash his public statements or the reputation he seems to have throughout the league.
As I’ve said, I’m a little surprised that Lovie didn’t get a job. However, it should be noted that virtually all of the new jobs went to coaches with offensive backgrounds. Sometimes you’re on the right side of the ball for a team looking for a coach, sometimes you’re not. Bradley was the one defensive guy, but he had the number one defense in the NFL this year, so it’s hard to fault Jacksonville for choosing him.
I see what you’re seeing, but I don’t think those two were passed over because of their race.
January 17th, 2013 at 7:52 pm
454.Super Lawg Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 7:04 pm
Reggie and Allen ran this show into the ditch. Nuff said.
Yup,and now they will finish it.Makes me sick.
January 17th, 2013 at 7:54 pm
Jokefoshow–but there u go again. I live in Sunnyvale California. Not Indiana. So ur corn joke is idiotic.
Are u trying to say I said I was a millionaire? Is that ur story? That I said it and now I’m backtracking? Or are u going to ignore what I actually say and just repeat lies for the heck of it?
I think u may need some help.
January 17th, 2013 at 7:56 pm
490.dr_robert Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 7:48 pm
It’s dilusions. There is no apostrophe. I remember u having problems with hyphens before.
Apostrophes show ownership or a combo of words.
Like:
“That’s (that is) one of jokefoshow’s jokes. So stupid.”
Or how I would slap the taste out of your mouth.
January 17th, 2013 at 7:57 pm
Jokefoshow, the hyphenated gangster.
The internet gangster.
The black hating gangster.
So much fun.
January 17th, 2013 at 7:59 pm
495.dr_robert Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 7:54 pm
Jokefoshow–but there u go again. I live in Sunnyvale California. Not Indiana. So ur corn joke is idiotic.
Are u trying to say I said I was a millionaire? Is that ur story? That I said it and now I’m backtracking? Or are u going to ignore what I actually say and just repeat lies for the heck of it?
I think u may need some help.
====================================================== Ur YOUR u You. Not even short hand words idiot.You being from ummm Sunnyvale you should know better. LIER.
January 17th, 2013 at 8:00 pm
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/17/report-horton-out-bowles-in-as-cardinals-defensive-coordinator
Maybe Horton is worth a look, at least in the secondary?
January 17th, 2013 at 8:00 pm
An apostrophe is like how u would slap me?
Do u think these things thru?
How old are u? Seriously.
January 17th, 2013 at 8:01 pm
Reggie is like dr-robert at night.Worthless.
January 17th, 2013 at 8:01 pm
Dr_robert Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 7:57 pm
Jokefoshow, the hyphenated gangster.
The internet gangster.
The black hating gangster.
So much fun.
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almost as fun as actually talking about football topics….
thats how you know the offseason starts sinking in….
January 17th, 2013 at 8:02 pm
Oakfshow Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 8:01 pm
Reggie is like dr-robert at night.Worthless.
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Why am I in the conversation?
Sincerely,
Reggie McKenzie
January 17th, 2013 at 8:02 pm
I hate mark Davis I hate mumbles and I hate Denise the dolts,donks,and even queefs r gonna boat race us next year this blows heres to empty seats and many blackouts in 2013 hopefully and when we have the first pick in 2014 fire the clown gm and clown staff ASAP and draft clowney
January 17th, 2013 at 8:02 pm
RaiderSam
Horton is expected to be a hot commodity.
Would be nice to have him on Raiders’ staff. Dude loves to blitz.
January 17th, 2013 at 8:03 pm
Relentless Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 7:47 pm
I’m scared to see what the Raiders staff is going to consist of. I already hate them. Just gonna get worse. I’m tired of waiting for fruit to grow on my trees so I take my ass to the store. Reg’s fatass knows this all too well.
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I mean, could they just bring Ray Horton in and talk to him, at least?
Havent brought in any GB staff or Seattle staff so that’s over with….
January 17th, 2013 at 8:03 pm
It’s LIAR. not LIER.
C’mon kid.
January 17th, 2013 at 8:03 pm
Ian85
If Raiders are picking No. 1 in next year’s draft, Clowney might just decide to stay at South Carolina one more year instead of coming to the NFL.
January 17th, 2013 at 8:04 pm
Do they have trailer parks in Sunnyvale?
January 17th, 2013 at 8:05 pm
RaiderSam
Atlanta is still in the playoffs and DA worked with Knapp in the ATL, there could be someone on the Falcons’ staff Allen is looking at.
More than likely, when the OC is hired, many of us will be saying “Who?” — aLa the Tarver hire.
But, who knows.
Unknowns sometimes pan out.
Liked what I saw out of Tarver’s group late in the season this past year.
January 17th, 2013 at 8:06 pm
Trailer parks? Of course. Pretty expensive for trailers though. Do u want an application?
January 17th, 2013 at 8:08 pm
507.dr_robert Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 8:03 pm
It’s LIAR. not LIER.
C’mon kid.
C’mon Come on. Get the other three fingers out of your a$$ and back on the keyboard big money.
January 17th, 2013 at 8:08 pm
U do know that “fo-sho” is. A black thing right? I mean it’s fine for a white kid to say, but since h don’t like black people, it seems off u would try to act “gangsta”. Oh that’s right ur from compton (as if that means anything).
January 17th, 2013 at 8:09 pm
Emperor r u fcking seriousn 3 and 13 lmfao I really hope u r right but there is no chance bro we r gonna be dead last man DA will be fired halfway thru the season or def be seasons end and so will mumbles brace urself man we r in for some really tough times first pick in 2014 clowney
January 17th, 2013 at 8:10 pm
Are u suggesting my azz is made of money?
January 17th, 2013 at 8:11 pm
Jokefoshow–how old are u?
January 17th, 2013 at 8:12 pm
Hahahaha jackass I totally didn’t think of that but that makes total sense If I was clowney and raids were draft number one overall I would prob go back also
January 17th, 2013 at 8:13 pm
513.dr_robert Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 8:08 pm
U do know that “fo-sho” is. A black thing right? I mean it’s fine for a white kid to say, but since h don’t like black people, it seems off u would try to act “gangsta”. Oh that’s right ur from compton (as if that means anything).
What it means is somebody would have found you in the dumpster a long time ago. SUNNYVALE. JEEEEEEZ what a lieing little punk. 5′2″ 125lbs of manboy.
January 17th, 2013 at 8:13 pm
Ian85
I just thought of that just now.
Go to Oakland or get more seasoning under Steve Spurrier at South Carolina?
Sure the money at No. 1 overall would be nice, but, is it really ‘that’ nice?
January 17th, 2013 at 8:14 pm
516.dr_robert Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 8:11 pm
Jokefoshow–how old are u?
Ask your mother little man boy.
January 17th, 2013 at 8:17 pm
DR robert talks like old people fck.
January 17th, 2013 at 8:17 pm
Via Rotoworld.com
Browns Defense – TM – Browns
CBS Sports’ Jason La Canfora reports it “sounds like” in-limbo Cardinals defensive coordinator Ray Horton will end up as the Browns’ defensive boss.
Horton reportedly had a heated exchange with new Cardinals GM Steve Keim after he was skipped over for the team’s head-coaching job and has requested a release from his contract that runs through 2013. He is fully expected to be granted that release. Browns new head coach Rob Chudzinski seems intent on making the switch to a 3-4 defense, and that’s what Horton knows. Horton won’t be on the open market for long.
January 17th, 2013 at 8:19 pm
McKenzie: “I’m looking for the future. We’re trying to build something here. And with building, you can’t mortgage the future in doing that. So we’re trying to lay down a good foundation, get the core players that we’ve seen can build this team the right way and make good sound decisions, be it financial, the personnel, coaching, whatever it is. You see the mistake, correct it. That’s the only way you’re going to get better. And that’s kind of our philosophy. We’re not trying to hurry up to win one or two games and mortgage the possibility of winning 10 more, you know what I’m saying? We’re just going to build it the right way, make good sound decisions.”
January 17th, 2013 at 8:24 pm
Dr robert the star of Sunnyvale’s how to catch a child predator.
January 17th, 2013 at 8:31 pm
Well let’s be honest jackass we r a black hole right now and I’m not talking about the end zone we r a horribly owned, run and coached organization period that’s what we havnt had a winning season since 02/03
January 17th, 2013 at 8:42 pm
Jokefoshow–that’s the best u got? Ask my mother? And it’s “lying”, not “lieing”.
Are u suggesting that all people from Compton are killer gangstas?
I’m guessing ur around 5′10 160. I’m 6′2″ 220. I have knocked teeth out of little punks like u. But I’ve grown up. Now I chill in a nice town and enjoy my life.
U need to go to some classes. Read a few books. Calm down. Get smarter. Ur a confused young man.
January 17th, 2013 at 8:44 pm
Jokefoshow–if u haven’t been in hail already, u seem headed there. Just for doing something stupid. And a guy like u wouldn’t do too well there. Get ur act together kid.
January 17th, 2013 at 8:44 pm
Jail
January 17th, 2013 at 8:49 pm
fvck reggie then he can explain a half empty stadium to mark as he is building…
January 17th, 2013 at 8:51 pm
CAM NEWTON SUCKS BALLZ.
Palmer>NEWTON any day of the week and twice on Sundays.
BTW. How did Geno Smith do in the Heisman voting again?
LMAO. Yeah. What I thought. He sucks too.
January 17th, 2013 at 8:53 pm
fvck mark too if he is so stupid as to let these idiots ruin the the raiders fvcken pvto…
January 17th, 2013 at 8:58 pm
Raider guy Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 8:19 pm
McKenzie: “I’m looking for the future. We’re trying to build something here. And with building, you can’t mortgage the future in doing that. So we’re trying to lay down a good foundation, get the core players that we’ve seen can build this team the right way and make good sound decisions, be it financial, the personnel, coaching, whatever it is. You see the mistake, correct it. That’s the only way you’re going to get better. And that’s kind of our philosophy. We’re not trying to hurry up to win one or two games and mortgage the possibility of winning 10 more, you know what I’m saying? We’re just going to build it the right way, make good sound decisions.”
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Screw Reggies “good, sound decisions”.
8-8 to 4-12? Yeah. Wonderful. What a winner.
McExcuse has plenty of em doesn’t he.
“Build it the right way”. What does that mean? More 4-12 seasons and then telling us it’s “the right way”?
B.S. Every other team tries to turn things around quickly and this joker wants to exempt himself from any pressure whatsoever by constantly reminding us of all the excuses he has to continue to suck.
Of all the GM’s in their first ever yr as a GM that took jobs n 2012 only ONE finished worse than what they inherited. Guess who.
Keep eatin it up you idiots. You deserve Reggie.
January 17th, 2013 at 9:00 pm
A lot people are high on OLB J Jones and they compare him to V Miller, but I’m not sold on the 23 yo JR.
January 17th, 2013 at 9:01 pm
Dan78
Keep eatin it you idiots. You deserve Mark (Davis).
There, fixed it.
January 17th, 2013 at 9:04 pm
Reggie McKenzie:
I have salary cap. Whaaaaaaah, I don’t have a full compliment of draft picks. Whaaaaaaaah we had to change that culture of being on the doorstep of the playoffs and build it the right way, and by right way I mean taking a long time and having plenty of excuses cuz I don’t want any pressure cuz I know i’m ridiculoulsy overmatched by the smart gm’s around the league, and DA is great cuz he took an 8-8 team and made it 4-12. That was an important culture change. We wanted to go from a step away from the playoffs back to the 32nd ranked team in the league…that’s the RIGHT WAY TO BUILD.”
CLUELESS.
January 17th, 2013 at 9:05 pm
I’ll take Palmer all day over newton I said it before the guy is hype he sucks and mark Davis sucks also
January 17th, 2013 at 9:05 pm
Dan78 Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 8:58 pm
Raider guy Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 8:19 pm
McKenzie: “I’m looking for the future. We’re trying to build something here. And with building, you can’t mortgage the future in doing that. So we’re trying to lay down a good foundation, get the core players that we’ve seen can build this team the right way and make good sound decisions, be it financial, the personnel, coaching, whatever it is. You see the mistake, correct it. That’s the only way you’re going to get better. And that’s kind of our philosophy. We’re not trying to hurry up to win one or two games and mortgage the possibility of winning 10 more, you know what I’m saying? We’re just going to build it the right way, make good sound decisions.”
++++++++++
Screw Reggies “good, sound decisions”.
8-8 to 4-12? Yeah. Wonderful. What a winner.
McExcuse has plenty of em doesn’t he.
“Build it the right way”. What does that mean? More 4-12 seasons and then telling us it’s “the right way”?
B.S. Every other team tries to turn things around quickly and this joker wants to exempt himself from any pressure whatsoever by constantly reminding us of all the excuses he has to continue to suck.
Of all the GM’s in their first ever yr as a GM that took jobs n 2012 only ONE finished worse than what they inherited. Guess who.
Keep eatin it up you idiots. You deserve Reggie.
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Can’t argue this logic. The results were clear, we took 20 steps back and 1 step forward. I’m praying there is a brilliant plan in the works..
January 17th, 2013 at 9:07 pm
Dan78
Mark Davis allowing Reggie McKenzie to fumble and stumble around…
CLUELESS.
January 17th, 2013 at 9:08 pm
Damn well said Dan78 one of the better posts I have read on here
January 17th, 2013 at 9:09 pm
Dan78
And only one owner would keep the only GM to finish worse than what they inherited employed.
Thank you Mark Davis.
January 17th, 2013 at 9:11 pm
Exactly Dan makes Really good points but like jackass said mark Davis hired this clown so he is really to blame but yes Reggie is a moron
January 17th, 2013 at 9:13 pm
You people still arguing about CP and other QBs?!
We have a solid vet in CP and a backup with potential in TP.
Get over it!
Lets focus on other issues like our defense, WRs, etc…
January 17th, 2013 at 9:17 pm
What McKenzie is saying is when you change Q’s it throws the entire rhythm of the offense off. So just being settled, getting the plays called, getting in and out of the huddle with a minimum amount of false starts and other mishaps is huge. And in that sense, Pryor did exceptionally well. He certainly can run an NFL offense. And That is major thing.
If Mistic said that, I would completely agree with him and agree that is big. But when McKenzie says that Pryor is number two, he is only number two because there are only two Q’s on the roster. And then McKenzie makes it a point that he is going to bring someone else in.
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Thats all we can ask for. who cares what anyone here says. Its up to reggie and the coaching staff anyway.
Bring in Matt Flynn, or Draft a qb like Geno smith.. let them compete. May the best man win.
IT will only benefit the Raiders in the long run
January 17th, 2013 at 9:18 pm
btw someone Tweeted Vic asked him to bring in BOB WYLE as Line coach.
Vic said it would be smart but they would have to admit they made a mistake in the 1st place.
Hue would be perfect for OC.. and Bob Wylie perfect line coach lol. two guys we already had. LOL
January 17th, 2013 at 9:19 pm
Draft:
DE/ OLB D Moore
NT/ DT Star Lotulelie
Or
The 23 yo JR OLB aka J Jones
January 17th, 2013 at 9:21 pm
“Bring in Flynn”
“Draft Geno Smith”
You people are mad!
January 17th, 2013 at 9:22 pm
Raider O
Raiders’ 1st pick has to be on D, has to be, right?
January 17th, 2013 at 9:23 pm
“Draft Geno Smith”
You people are mad!
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Well respected and insider Gil Brandt threw it out there
January 17th, 2013 at 9:23 pm
You want the Run game going.. U want the best OC on the market.. well like Greg Papa said and I agree
CAM CAMERON is your man
January 17th, 2013 at 9:24 pm
Thats all we can ask for. who cares what anyone here says. Its up to reggie and the coaching staff anyway.
Bring in Matt Flynn, or Draft a qb like Geno smith.. let them compete. May the best man win.
IT will only benefit the Raiders in the long run
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Thats it, you found the secret recipe. Bring in Flynn or draft Geno Smith. The answer to all our problems.
January 17th, 2013 at 9:24 pm
Jackasspuria Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 9:22 pm
Raider O
Raiders’ 1st pick has to be on D, has to be, right?
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That’s what I think. We need pass rushers, LBs, NT/ DT, and CB.
January 17th, 2013 at 9:25 pm
Jeremy Bates leaving Bears.
OC canidate?
January 17th, 2013 at 9:26 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 9:23 pm
You want the Run game going.. U want the best OC on the market.. well like Greg Papa said and I agree
CAM CAMERON is your man
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I would be very happy with taking Cam Cameron. I just worry DA is too afraid to pull the trigger on a guy with HC experience.
January 17th, 2013 at 9:27 pm
Thats it, you found the secret recipe. Bring in Flynn or draft Geno Smith. The answer to all our problems
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So Reggie is not trying to solve a problem when he says he is gonna bring in guys? or When a well respected guy like Gil Brandt mocks Geno to the raiders.
he wouldnt just throw that wild card out there without some knowledge. Possible be right on draft day?
January 17th, 2013 at 9:27 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit
Should be. He is known as a great teacher and builder of QBs. Should help Pryor develop.
Hopefully Bates comes in and masters the Raiders O and brings it back to greatness.
All hail Master Bates!
January 17th, 2013 at 9:29 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 9:23 pm
“Draft Geno Smith”
You people are mad!
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Well respected and insider Gil Brandt threw it out there
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It makes no sense to reach for a QB when:
1- We have a solid vet and a young backup with potential to develop, and both are under contract for a few more years.
2- ignore better talent that satisfies some of our needs like DE, LB, DT, or even CB (if we trade down, or Milliner improves his stock)
3- It’s not a good year for QBs.
January 17th, 2013 at 9:29 pm
Reggie said he is gonna bring in guys at the QB spot
also said he wants to see an OC work with Pryor on what he does best.
January 17th, 2013 at 9:29 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 9:27 pm
Thats it, you found the secret recipe. Bring in Flynn or draft Geno Smith. The answer to all our problems
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So Reggie is not trying to solve a problem when he says he is gonna bring in guys? or When a well respected guy like Gil Brandt mocks Geno to the raiders.
he wouldnt just throw that wild card out there without some knowledge. Possible be right on draft day?
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Like I said you found the answer to all our problems. Can’t wait for the Geno Smith run offense, the guy who looked lost against any decent competition he faced. But he did tear up those other guys.
January 17th, 2013 at 9:31 pm
Raider O Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 9:29 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 9:23 pm
“Draft Geno Smith”
You people are mad!
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Well respected and insider Gil Brandt threw it out there
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
It makes no sense to reach for a QB when:
1- We have a solid vet and a young backup with potential to develop, and both are under contract for a few more years.
2- ignore better talent that satisfies some of our needs like DE, LB, DT, or even CB (if we trade down, or Milliner improves his stock)
3- It’s not a good year for QBs.
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Agreed, to waste a pick on a QB this year especially with this draft class would be a waste. You shouldn’t draft a QB just because.
January 17th, 2013 at 9:34 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 9:29 pm
Reggie said he is gonna bring in guys at the QB spot
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Because we need a 3rd QB. Obviously Leinart is not an option (I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s even on a opening day roster next year, another great Knapp move)
January 17th, 2013 at 9:34 pm
Like I said you found the answer to all our problems. Can’t wait for the Geno Smith run offense, the guy who looked lost against any decent competition he faced. But he did tear up those other guys
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He also looked good this season too. Half this board where here on saturdays hoping he would be available when we picked. Every qb is gonna come with flaws this year. YOU mention “ME” as answering the problems.
Im just trying to connect the dots from reggies interviews. Gil Brandt has called raider news right before.
Its not what I want. Its what Reggie will do I will say this. Reggie has scouted alot of Green bay players and have brought many in including signing some for future contract next year.
You dont think if he has a chance to get his hands on Matt Flynn now.. he wont try? last year he was a high priced FA.. this time he may get fair market value money or some type of trade. Its all speculation
January 17th, 2013 at 9:35 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit
The QB that impressed me the most in Bowl games this year?
Oklahoma’s Landry Jones.
Raiders staff will see him up close at Senior Bowl.
January 17th, 2013 at 9:35 pm
ictor Cotto@cottovic
Long time, well respected #NFL draft analyst Gil Brandt has Oakland #Raiders taking QB Geno Smith from West Virginia in the 1st round (3).
Victor Cotto@cottovic
But I’ll put this out there: how would you feel if the Oakland #Raiders did draft Geno Smith? You can make case for that selection easily.
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like i said its not me who wants to draft a qb. Anything is possible at this point
January 17th, 2013 at 9:37 pm
I want Moore.
Played his rookie year, started the last 2 years and had 21 sacks, 12.5 this tear in the SEC, and he is 20 yo. He also plays LB and DE.
Moore!!!!
January 17th, 2013 at 9:37 pm
Landy jones looked good the last few games.
Like i said anything is possible at this point. Reggie is not tipping his cap one way or another cuz he doesnt want to give other teams info
He doesnt know if he will keep the 3rd or trade back reading that transcript. Every play is gonna be evaluating hard this year. Finally got some draft picks
January 17th, 2013 at 9:38 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 9:35 pm
ictor Cotto@cottovic
Long time, well respected #NFL draft analyst Gil Brandt has Oakland #Raiders taking QB Geno Smith from West Virginia in the 1st round (3).
Victor Cotto@cottovic
But I’ll put this out there: how would you feel if the Oakland #Raiders did draft Geno Smith? You can make case for that selection easily.
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like i said its not me who wants to draft a qb. Anything is possible at this point
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Well with Reggie’s track record I wouldn’t be shocked. Picking Smith at #3 could possibly be the worst decision this team can make at this point. That would be a disaster.
January 17th, 2013 at 9:40 pm
Dan78 Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 8:58 pm
Raider guy Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 8:19 pm
McKenzie: “I’m looking for the future. We’re trying to build something here. And with building, you can’t mortgage the future in doing that. So we’re trying to lay down a good foundation, get the core players that we’ve seen can build this team the right way and make good sound decisions, be it financial, the personnel, coaching, whatever it is. You see the mistake, correct it. That’s the only way you’re going to get better. And that’s kind of our philosophy. We’re not trying to hurry up to win one or two games and mortgage the possibility of winning 10 more, you know what I’m saying? We’re just going to build it the right way, make good sound decisions.”
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Screw Reggies “good, sound decisions”.
8-8 to 4-12? Yeah. Wonderful. What a winner.
McExcuse has plenty of em doesn’t he.
“Build it the right way”. What does that mean? More 4-12 seasons and then telling us it’s “the right way”?
B.S. Every other team tries to turn things around quickly and this joker wants to exempt himself from any pressure whatsoever by constantly reminding us of all the excuses he has to continue to suck.
Of all the GM’s in their first ever yr as a GM that took jobs n 2012 only ONE finished worse than what they inherited. Guess who.
Keep eatin it up you idiots. You deserve Reggie.
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You deserve a different team.
Try NE. Their fans are just like you. Obnoxious douche bags
January 17th, 2013 at 9:40 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 9:35 pm
ictor Cotto@cottovic
Long time, well respected #NFL draft analyst Gil Brandt has Oakland #Raiders taking QB Geno Smith from West Virginia in the 1st round (3).
Victor Cotto@cottovic
But I’ll put this out there: how would you feel if the Oakland #Raiders did draft Geno Smith? You can make case for that selection easily.
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like i said its not me who wants to draft a qb. Anything is possible at this point
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I was joking about the ” You People…”
I doubt it, but anything is possible.
January 17th, 2013 at 9:40 pm
not if he traded back and took him lower 1st round. Im saying if he truly believes in the kid.
all these potential picks are gonna get scouted hard. Its not gonna be like Al just picking someone without investigation.
Reggie gonnae “dot the i’s cross the t’s”
January 17th, 2013 at 9:41 pm
Well with Reggie’s track record I wouldn’t be shocked. Picking Smith at #3 could possibly be the worst decision this team can make at this point. That would be a disaster.
$$$$$$$$$
Exactly.
January 17th, 2013 at 9:42 pm
Let us just get it out there…
No matter who the Raiders pick, there will be a happy and unhappy sect of fans.
January 17th, 2013 at 9:43 pm
rudegruden Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 9:38 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 9:35 pm
ictor Cotto@cottovic
Long time, well respected #NFL draft analyst Gil Brandt has Oakland #Raiders taking QB Geno Smith from West Virginia in the 1st round (3).
Victor Cotto@cottovic
But I’ll put this out there: how would you feel if the Oakland #Raiders did draft Geno Smith? You can make case for that selection easily.
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like i said its not me who wants to draft a qb. Anything is possible at this point
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Well with Reggie’s track record I wouldn’t be shocked. Picking Smith at #3 could possibly be the worst decision this team can make at this point. That would be a disaster.
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Lemmee guess… you want the flavor-of-the-week defensive “stud?”
When all the teams in the NFL are winning with offense?
January 17th, 2013 at 9:45 pm
1. Geno Smith, West Virginia
Height: 6-3. Weight: 214.
Projected 40 Time: 4.69.
Projected Round (2013): Top-20 Pick.
1/12/13: Smith started out 2012 on fire. He was a dominant force before getting shut down against Texas Tech and Kansas State. Smith played better in November even though West Virginia was in a losing streak.
Smith has completed 71 percent of his passes this season for 4,205 yards, 42 touchdowns and six interceptions. He had one of the most prolific games in college football history by completing 45-of-51 for 656 yards, eight touchdowns and zero interceptions against Baylor.
The senior signal-caller has an excellent skill set. He is showing his intelligence and field vision by working through his progressions and looking off safeties. Smith has some natural accuracy with good arm strength to make all the throws. He can fire some fastballs into tight windows with phenomenal ball placement to hit receivers in stride.
Smith’s plus mobility allows him to pick up first downs with his feet and bail out his offensive line. He needs to work on sustaining drives as he struggled when Texas Tech and Kansas State took away the deep part of the field. Smith will need to improve his footwork for the NFL. He needs to become more uniform with good feet to get in rhythm.
Smith shows the arm to be quality passer with some natural accuracy. He has earned a reputation as a very hard worker and true student of the game who puts in a ton of time in the film room. Smith is a good athlete who could fit well in a West Coast offense. He could earn first-round consideration.
via walterfootball as of 1/12 1st rated qb
January 17th, 2013 at 9:47 pm
Gdog Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 9:43 pm
rudegruden Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 9:38 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 9:35 pm
ictor Cotto@cottovic
Long time, well respected #NFL draft analyst Gil Brandt has Oakland #Raiders taking QB Geno Smith from West Virginia in the 1st round (3).
Victor Cotto@cottovic
But I’ll put this out there: how would you feel if the Oakland #Raiders did draft Geno Smith? You can make case for that selection easily.
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like i said its not me who wants to draft a qb. Anything is possible at this point
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Well with Reggie’s track record I wouldn’t be shocked. Picking Smith at #3 could possibly be the worst decision this team can make at this point. That would be a disaster.
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Lemmee guess… you want the flavor-of-the-week defensive “stud?”
When all the teams in the NFL are winning with offense?
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Not necessarily. I would be satisfied with a solid pick like OL. I’m not too impressed with this draft class, so I would be happy going what some people call the boring route and grabbing solid football guys, trading down (if its possible with this draft).
However, picking a Geno at #3 would just be awful. He’s not a franchise qb.
January 17th, 2013 at 9:48 pm
if chiefs take Geno 1overall then it doesnt matter
I read on twitter Raiders also interested in Dee Milliner.. well u would have to take him 3rd overall cuz he is mocked to the lions at 5th
January 17th, 2013 at 9:49 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit
Dee Milliner would get Denarius Moore to shape up… or cower in fear…
I remember the Milliner hit on Moore when D was at Tennessee as if it happened yesterday.
January 17th, 2013 at 9:50 pm
and its from draft talk guy.. i know they dont have that much cred …but like i said anything is possible.
U will a feel at senior bowl too with some top prospect which i think alot of them are not playing
January 17th, 2013 at 9:52 pm
I could see the Raiders bringing in some camp arms for #3…………….
January 17th, 2013 at 9:53 pm
We all need to come together and circle jerk this 4-12 into 13-3. Reggie and Allen can be in the middle doin reach arounds and the rest can do some group huggin and two strokin and together we can rid these demons right outta Raider HQ. One big jerk fest. Be gone. 13-3 baby. Reggie and Allen, get the party rollin.
Rawhide.
January 17th, 2013 at 9:54 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 9:45 pm
1. Geno Smith, West Virginia
Height: 6-3. Weight: 214.
Projected 40 Time: 4.69.
Projected Round (2013): Top-20 Pick.
1/12/13: Smith started out 2012 on fire. He was a dominant force before getting shut down against Texas Tech and Kansas State. Smith played better in November even though West Virginia was in a losing streak.
Smith has completed 71 percent of his passes this season for 4,205 yards, 42 touchdowns and six interceptions. He had one of the most prolific games in college football history by completing 45-of-51 for 656 yards, eight touchdowns and zero interceptions against Baylor.
The senior signal-caller has an excellent skill set. He is showing his intelligence and field vision by working through his progressions and looking off safeties. Smith has some natural accuracy with good arm strength to make all the throws. He can fire some fastballs into tight windows with phenomenal ball placement to hit receivers in stride.
Smith’s plus mobility allows him to pick up first downs with his feet and bail out his offensive line. He needs to work on sustaining drives as he struggled when Texas Tech and Kansas State took away the deep part of the field. Smith will need to improve his footwork for the NFL. He needs to become more uniform with good feet to get in rhythm.
Smith shows the arm to be quality passer with some natural accuracy. He has earned a reputation as a very hard worker and true student of the game who puts in a ton of time in the film room. Smith is a good athlete who could fit well in a West Coast offense. He could earn first-round consideration.
via walterfootball as of 1/12 1st rated qb
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“Three years from now you could be looking at a guy that’s certainly one of the elite top five quarterbacks in this league. …You’re talking about a 2-3 year period once he’s under center. Look out because the skill level that he has is certainly John Elway-like.”
Guess who Mel Kiper said that about?
January 17th, 2013 at 9:56 pm
567,
Gdog,
You must like losing. I don’t.
I’m a real fan. I want the Raiders to win.
I don’t subscribe to the idea that ‘building the right way’ means losing 50% more games than the previous yr.
You always have the niners to fall back on right? What do you care.
Enjoy the game Sunday and don’t forget to wear your new Kaepernick jersey.
January 17th, 2013 at 9:56 pm
“Three years from now you could be looking at a guy that’s certainly one of the elite top five quarterbacks in this league. …You’re talking about a 2-3 year period once he’s under center. Look out because the skill level that he has is certainly John Elway-like.”
Guess who Mel Kiper said that about?
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Did Mel know he was gonna eat himself to 290.. and then get hooked on the drinks
this is where investigation and scouting come from. Reggie will be on top of that if u read the transcipt from today
wont be like Al and just pick without doing shiz
January 17th, 2013 at 9:57 pm
I bet the toilet seat Reggie and Allen share is covered in mink. So soft your ass feels like its floating on clouds and the log just passes into the water like soft butter. Oh my.
January 17th, 2013 at 9:57 pm
Matt Mayock also compared JaMarcus russell to Matt Ryan
January 17th, 2013 at 9:57 pm
580,
Jamarcus Russell. I remember that.
Al Davis has passed and out of respect I will not say how I feel about that.
January 17th, 2013 at 9:58 pm
Damn… Looks like someone highjacked my handle earlier tonight… Crazy…. I got Manteied…
January 17th, 2013 at 9:58 pm
…I mean how I feel about Al for drafting him.
January 17th, 2013 at 9:59 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 9:56 pm
“Three years from now you could be looking at a guy that’s certainly one of the elite top five quarterbacks in this league. …You’re talking about a 2-3 year period once he’s under center. Look out because the skill level that he has is certainly John Elway-like.”
Guess who Mel Kiper said that about?
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Did Mel know he was gonna eat himself to 290.. and then get hooked on the drinks
this is where investigation and scouting come from. Reggie will be on top of that if u read the transcipt from today
wont be like Al and just pick without doing shiz
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Give me 5 examples on why you are convinced Reggie will make the right decisions. 5 examples of fact and not theory or faith.
January 17th, 2013 at 10:00 pm
Whats going on i’ve been KoolKelled
January 17th, 2013 at 10:00 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 9:52 pm
I could see the Raiders bringing in some camp arms for #3…………….
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We will have to wait till Green Bay makes their first round of cuts. But I agree. To bad we got to rattle thru their dumpster.
January 17th, 2013 at 10:01 pm
Give me 5 examples on why you are convinced Reggie will make the right decisions. 5 examples of fact and not theory or faith.
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I cant. I just gotta go by what he says. what else is there.. 17 yrs of experience says he has learned something
January 17th, 2013 at 10:04 pm
JaRussell was a beast. He could throw a football 85 yards from his knees. Any team 1st in line would have drafted him. Raiders just happened to be 1st in line that year. Our franchise has a storied history. Strange as it may be it is definitely storied.
January 17th, 2013 at 10:05 pm
Cork has now changed his prediction to LUKE JOCKEL
i think he may go 1 overall
January 17th, 2013 at 10:06 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 10:01 pm
Give me 5 examples on why you are convinced Reggie will make the right decisions. 5 examples of fact and not theory or faith.
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I cant. I just gotta go by what he says. what else is there.. 17 yrs of experience says he has learned something
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I understand having faith because we have to and we have no other choice. I’m rooting for McKenzie to pull a rabbit out of his hat and come around and have the team show results.
However, so far all I’ve seen is a complete mess. The fact you or anyone can’t find 5 facts that proves he’s the man for the job says something.
I’m hoping I’m misreading the situation, but common sense is telling me I’m not (just like the Chucky B and Knapp hires). Which is why i wouldn’t be shocked if we took Geno at #3
January 17th, 2013 at 10:07 pm
Not necessarily. I would be satisfied with a solid pick like OL. I’m not too impressed with this draft class, so I would be happy going what some people call the boring route and grabbing solid football guys, trading down (if its possible with this draft).
However, picking a Geno at #3 would just be awful. He’s not a franchise qb.
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There’s some QB’s drafted lately doing damage that many people said the same thing about. And the nice thing is we don’t have to hurry him into anything.
But I agree with you the quick fix is o-line.
If Joekel is gone and we draft Geno… I am cool with that. Long term thinking wins in the NFL when it comes to QBs.
The only way I am pissed is if we roll the dice at three on some “can’t miss” defensive stud. Statistically they are 50/50 being a BUST, and nobody is winning with defense anyway.
January 17th, 2013 at 10:10 pm
Reggie might not be able to pull a rabbit out of his hat in this years draft, but he can pound a mean grand slam. In the meantime Allen is just bustin out of puberty.
January 17th, 2013 at 10:10 pm
Gdog Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 10:07 pm
Not necessarily. I would be satisfied with a solid pick like OL. I’m not too impressed with this draft class, so I would be happy going what some people call the boring route and grabbing solid football guys, trading down (if its possible with this draft).
However, picking a Geno at #3 would just be awful. He’s not a franchise qb.
>>>
There’s some QB’s drafted lately doing damage that many people said the same thing about. And the nice thing is we don’t have to hurry him into anything.
But I agree with you the quick fix is o-line.
If Joekel is gone and we draft Geno… I am cool with that. Long term thinking wins in the NFL when it comes to QBs.
The only way I am pissed is if we roll the dice at three on some “can’t miss” defensive stud. Statistically they are 50/50 being a BUST, and nobody is winning with defense anyway.
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I agree with the “can’t miss” defense guys. I think at this point the risk is not worth the reward.
January 17th, 2013 at 10:11 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 10:05 pm
Cork has now changed his prediction to LUKE JOCKEL
i think he may go 1 overall
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yeah, he goes no. 1 overall – for the Andy Reid era to begin, they get next best QB in 2nd round or DB Amerson from N.C. St., with A.Smith in FA
that leaves Star Louletelei at 2 to Jacksonville or Nebraska’s Bjorn Werner and us stuck with Smith (who no one wants) or Jarvis Jones, who really fits a 3-4, and not a 4-3, unless we take Demontre Moore. – that leaves Geno Smith to the Cardinals then Matt Barkley to the Bills
January 17th, 2013 at 10:11 pm
When there are no OCs left to hire, Allen will bring back Knapp. My source confirms this.
January 17th, 2013 at 10:14 pm
Dan78 Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 9:56 pm
567,
Gdog,
You must like losing. I don’t.
I’m a real fan. I want the Raiders to win.
I don’t subscribe to the idea that ‘building the right way’ means losing 50% more games than the previous yr.
You always have the niners to fall back on right? What do you care.
Enjoy the game Sunday and don’t forget to wear your new Kaepernick jersey.
>>>>
I’ve been a Raider fan since 70′ Bubba. I’ve seen the highs and lows. The highest of highs and the lowest of lows. I also understand sometimes you have to take some steps back to move forwards.
Knee-jerk whiney a$$ pound your little fists on the floor every day NFL fans like YOU are a dime a dozen. Every team has them.
Doesn’t mean I have to tolerate them.
January 17th, 2013 at 10:16 pm
The Emperor Of Wyoming Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 10:04 pm
JaRussell was a beast. He could throw a football 85 yards from his knees. Any team 1st in line would have drafted him. Raiders just happened to be 1st in line that year. Our franchise has a storied history. Strange as it may be it is definitely storied.
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It does. It never had a franchise QB, only players from other teams; Lamonica (Bills), Gannon (Chiefs/Redskins/Vikings originally Patriots), Hostetler (Giants), K.Collins (Panthers) , J.George (Colts)- the only QB drafted was Stabler
several misses; Marinovich, Marc Wilson,
Just never really put a complete draft together since 88 (T.Brown, Wisniewski) and 98 (Woodson, Rod Coleman, etc)
January 17th, 2013 at 10:16 pm
U guys think this is mark and mumbles plan to tear everything down suck have a empty stadium and move this team to LA ?
January 17th, 2013 at 10:17 pm
The Emperor Of Wyoming Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 10:11 pm
When there are no OCs left to hire, Allen will bring back Knapp. My source confirms this.
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My source indicates the same post around the same time next year, with equal results
*crickets chirping*
Knapp coming back is as ridiculous as hoping Allen is replaced by some head coach you want.
Hes under contract, he’ll bring in another OC, we’ll go 8-8 or 7-9,
and the same b.s. posts will come up the following year.
January 17th, 2013 at 10:19 pm
Ian85 Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 10:16 pm
U guys think this is mark and mumbles plan to tear everything down suck have a empty stadium and move this team to LA ?
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No, i think its a frustrated fan base that is seeing other teams win, and this team is struggling to rebuild a team devastating by 10 years worth of faulty picks, free agents and coaching turnover.
So, they will grasp any ridiculous theory or long winded explanations how Terrelle Pryor sucks or Dennis Allen sucks or Jon Gruden is magically going to bring this us back.
January 17th, 2013 at 10:20 pm
RE: Reggie’s statement about Pryor.
1) He’s not about to be negative publicly about any player on the team. The players are cards in a poker game. You’d like to let your opponents believe you are holding cards of value.
2) Look at the follow-up statement by RM–he says essentially that running by a qb can be good but he’s got to be able to pass, pass, pass.
He didn’t say anything that wasn’t true, anything we didn’t already know, that Pryor can run, but he’s not proved anything about his passing.
Actually, I was pretty surprised RM (as DA before him) spoke so much about the fact that Pryor got them out of the huddle, etc. Geeezzzzz.
January 17th, 2013 at 10:25 pm
I agree with the “can’t miss” defense guys. I think at this point the risk is not worth the reward.
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Exactly.
The best defensive player in the entire NFL just got completely neutralized last week by NE’s offense like swishing a skeeter away.
You need BOTH to win trophies, but the Raiders just need to get back to respectability again quickly. This is done by OFFENSE. I wouldn’t be pissed if they draft almost all offense.
January 17th, 2013 at 10:27 pm
Gdog Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 10:25 pm
I agree with the “can’t miss” defense guys. I think at this point the risk is not worth the reward.
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Exactly.
The best defensive player in the entire NFL just got completely neutralized last week by NE’s offense like swishing a skeeter away.
You need BOTH to win trophies, but the Raiders just need to get back to respectability again quickly. This is done by OFFENSE. I wouldn’t be pissed if they draft almost all offense.
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A reason why the Knapp hire last year still bothers me. Now we have to clean up his stank off this team and may take a year to do. He single handedly took us back at least 2 years in a offense league.
January 17th, 2013 at 10:29 pm
Pryor had good rhythm and tempo and had a feel and command for the game. That was impressive. Especially for coming off the bench. Haters can munch on that when their not to busy hatin. Btw. A lot of football people took notice and were impressed.
January 17th, 2013 at 10:30 pm
Shutdown Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 10:20 pm
RE: Reggie’s statement about Pryor.
1) He’s not about to be negative publicly about any player on the team. The players are cards in a poker game. You’d like to let your opponents believe you are holding cards of value.
2) Look at the follow-up statement by RM–he says essentially that running by a qb can be good but he’s got to be able to pass, pass, pass.
He didn’t say anything that wasn’t true, anything we didn’t already know, that Pryor can run, but he’s not proved anything about his passing.
Actually, I was pretty surprised RM (as DA before him) spoke so much about the fact that Pryor got them out of the huddle, etc. Geeezzzzz.
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Until they HAVE ACTUALLY WON SOMETHING, they better keep any and all players and utilize them. Get better on defense.
These people better pay attention to who advanced to the playoffs and through the post season and WHO DIDNT.
January 17th, 2013 at 10:32 pm
Well, for grins, I charted the first round draft picks over the last 10 years by the top 3 teams still left standing (Pats, SF, Falcons) by position. Here is the breakdown…
Offense
QB = 2
WR = 6
OT = 5
OG = 2
TE = 2
RB = 1
Defense
DE = 3
DT = 4
LB = 5
CB = 2
S = 1
18 offensive picks and 15 defensive picks combined.
The clear loser on offense was C with no picks, then RB. The winners were WR and OT.
The clear loser on defense was S. The winners LB and DT.
January 17th, 2013 at 10:39 pm
If Palmer has two years left, the raiders have to pick a qb now or next year. Otherwise they’re stuck with a rookie or some FA in 2015. And there is no predicting who will be available and where we will be picking. It’s simple. Everyone in the nfl knows that when u have a qb issue, and u have a high pick, u go for ur franchise guy.
It won’t surprise me at all if the first three picks of the draft are qb’s.
January 17th, 2013 at 10:39 pm
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A reason why the Knapp hire last year still bothers me. Now we have to clean up his stank off this team and may take a year to do. He single handedly took us back at least 2 years in a offense league.
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Horrible hire… I went insane when I saw it. But no, it doesn’t take that long to correct it.
Not with a veteran franchise QB, albeit flawed.
All we need is better over-all coaching offensively, plugging in a bluechip linemen and a TRUE number one WR… and let CP run the no-huddle the majority of the plays next year.
He’s the third best no-huddle QB in the league (behind Peyton and Brady)… but what, the 20th best straight up QB? How hard is it to find an OC to let him go no-huddle?
January 17th, 2013 at 10:40 pm
With the success of these “new wave QB’s” Pryors stock has got to be way up. 6-6, 235, 4.3.
January 17th, 2013 at 10:43 pm
Pryor’s passes are awful. If u can’t admit that, then ur in denial and hanging into a pipe dream. Or u don’t know sh1t about football.
January 17th, 2013 at 10:44 pm
Gdog Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 10:39 pm
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A reason why the Knapp hire last year still bothers me. Now we have to clean up his stank off this team and may take a year to do. He single handedly took us back at least 2 years in a offense league.
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Horrible hire… I went insane when I saw it. But no, it doesn’t take that long to correct it.
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This is why I don’t give DA a pass. Epic fail on his part with that hire.
And how about Reggie coming out to admit McFadden runs better in a power scheme. lol. Derrrr!
January 17th, 2013 at 10:52 pm
I thought Pryor looked pretty good passing the ball. He did throw 2 TD’s
January 17th, 2013 at 10:53 pm
Dr_robert Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 10:39 pm
If Palmer has two years left, the raiders have to pick a qb now or next year. Otherwise they’re stuck with a rookie or some FA in 2015. And there is no predicting who will be available and where we will be picking. It’s simple. Everyone in the nfl knows that when u have a qb issue, and u have a high pick, u go for ur franchise guy.
It won’t surprise me at all if the first three picks of the draft are qb’s.
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It would surprise the he|| out of me. There isn’t one guy in this draft that I would rather have than Carson, and I don’t even like Carson.
January 17th, 2013 at 10:54 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 10:44 pm
Gdog Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 10:39 pm
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A reason why the Knapp hire last year still bothers me. Now we have to clean up his stank off this team and may take a year to do. He single handedly took us back at least 2 years in a offense league.
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Horrible hire… I went insane when I saw it. But no, it doesn’t take that long to correct it.
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This is why I don’t give DA a pass. Epic fail on his part with that hire.
And how about Reggie coming out to admit McFadden runs better in a power scheme. lol. Derrrr!
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Funny, that’s why I don’t give him a pass.
January 17th, 2013 at 10:55 pm
Pryor looked like it was his first NFL game, his first game in 6 mos and first REAL game in 2 yrs.
Lots of nervous QBs put too much touch on the ball. Or don’t you know $#it about football?
January 17th, 2013 at 10:55 pm
http://coachingsearch.com/coaching-search-ticker.html
Cool up to the minute coaching info….
January 17th, 2013 at 11:10 pm
The fact that people aren’t unanimously saying KC and Jax are taking QBs says a lot about this QB class.
We do have to take a QB soon. I can say with relative confidence though, that I would rather have whichever QB we can get next year (assuming we don’t trade away our first for the Packer’s swing tackle) or in 2015.
January 17th, 2013 at 11:15 pm
The Raiders may spend a high draft choice on a QB next year, if Palmer & Pryor flame.
January 17th, 2013 at 11:30 pm
RediaR Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 11:10 pm
The fact that people aren’t unanimously saying KC and Jax are taking QBs says a lot about this QB class.
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Good point.
January 17th, 2013 at 11:31 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 11:15 pm
The Raiders may spend a high draft choice on a QB next year, if Palmer & Pryor flame.
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Yeah, I think you see what you have in these guys with a decent OC, then make a decision. Entire offense was hampered last year.
January 17th, 2013 at 11:34 pm
JLofty Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 10:55 pm
Pryor looked like it was his first NFL game, his first game in 6 mos and first REAL game in 2 yrs.
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Exactly. People jumping all over Houdini for not putting up a 100+ QB rating in his first NFL start are comical. At least 5 drops by the receivers. Oh, yeah, the ducks. Ducks that were good for TDs. After the year we had, folks have the nerve to complain about how we didn’t score pretty. lol
January 17th, 2013 at 11:38 pm
nevermind qb.
WE still need a dayum OC. Promote carson if u had too. Let him call the plays.
Let Pryor Jr. assist
January 17th, 2013 at 11:39 pm
I thought he looked pretty good. He accounted for all three TD’s, and converted 53% of 3rd downs. No delay of game or false start Penalities.
January 17th, 2013 at 11:41 pm
Why can’t some of u understand the freaking point?
He throws a TERRIBLE looking ball!
I don’t give a sh1t about the stats of Tds or his first game or any of it. The kid throws a garbage pass. That won’t ever get better. More games. More practice. Trying really hard. It’s all pointless. He sucks as a passer.
January 17th, 2013 at 11:43 pm
Ur sucking on a pipe dream.
January 17th, 2013 at 11:43 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 11:39 pm
I thought he looked pretty good. He accounted for all three TD’s, and converted 53% of 3rd downs. No delay of game or false start Penalities.
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Excellent leadership too. Thing that really stuck out to me was how he grabbed Goodson to tell him to cool it. I want someone like that QB’ing my team. It’s that leadership that rubs off on all the other players and before you know it you have a smart, cool-headed unit.
January 17th, 2013 at 11:45 pm
Missdick’s disease has rotted ur brains.
Only one treatment. Euthanasia.
January 17th, 2013 at 11:45 pm
I disagree he sucks as a passer. He’s played QB since high school and won MVP trophies at every stop
January 17th, 2013 at 11:47 pm
And a 47% 70.8 rating qb. That’s a recipe for horrible.
January 17th, 2013 at 11:47 pm
Excellent leadership too. Thing that really stuck out to me was how he grabbed Goodson to tell him to cool it. I want someone like that QB’ing my team. It’s that leadership that rubs off on all the other players and before you know it you have a smart, cool-headed unit.
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Yep.
January 17th, 2013 at 11:51 pm
Of course he’s played since high school. A ton of great COLLEGE qb’s sucked in the nfl. Tebow. Torretta. Ware. Detmer. Wuerffel. Weinke. Crouch. White. Leinart.
Did u WATCH the game? Ur telling me u saw a passer who looked like a good nfl passer?
No one can honestly say that. If u try, then ur lying.
January 17th, 2013 at 11:53 pm
I have the game on DVR u, ur, u can watch it, u
January 17th, 2013 at 11:55 pm
I watched it the first time. I saw enuff.
January 17th, 2013 at 11:59 pm
Dr_robert Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 11:55 pm
I watched it the first time. I saw enuff.
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We shall see, wannabe.
January 17th, 2013 at 11:59 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 11:39 pm
I thought he looked pretty good. He accounted for all three TD’s, and converted 53% of 3rd downs. No delay of game or false start Penalities.
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Have to apologize. Just realized I’ve posted this exact same post 17 times. Everytime I take Bean-o, it makes my sphincter pucker up, making the blood rush to my head. Can’t remember what I posted. It’s either Bean-o or I have to sleep in the bathtub.
January 18th, 2013 at 12:00 am
Gnite Gents
January 18th, 2013 at 12:01 am
KoolKell Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 11:59 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 11:39 pm
I thought he looked pretty good. He accounted for all three TD’s, and converted 53% of 3rd downs. No delay of game or false start Penalities.
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Have to apologize. Just realized I’ve posted this exact same post 17 times. Everytime I take Bean-o, it makes my sphincter pucker up, making the blood rush to my head. Can’t remember what I posted. It’s either Bean-o or I have to sleep in the bathtub.
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Don’t forget the toaster.
January 18th, 2013 at 12:04 am
Before I leave, I really like how TP threw 68%, for 274 yds. Wave of the future, baby. Deal with it, dumbass.
January 18th, 2013 at 12:04 am
It’s a great off-season night to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!
The Raiders don’t have the luxury of waiting another year for a young QB prospect to come along.
Terrelle Pryor was not overwhelmed by the game vs SD, but he certainly wasn’t ready for primetime, either. Matt Leinart is keeping a roster spot lukewarm…and Carson Palmer has MAYBE two good years left in him, and that’s if we can keep him healthy.
The time to go for another young QB to compete with TPryor is right now. But…it’s hardly likely going to be Geno Smith @ #3. There is a lot of value in that #3 pick, even in an “off” year for the draft.
The Raiders will either draft OL or LB in the top-10 (if they trade down just a few)…or they will trade down a lot, and add even more picks we really need. In that case, then somewhere between rounds 2-5, the Raiders will select the QB who will either beat-out, or follow Terrelle Pryor as our “QB of the future.”
Running QB’s are fascinating…but, our next QB better be able to fling that ball downfield with the big boys (right, Leinart?).
Look for QB’s like:
Tyler Bray – Tennessee
Matt Scott – Arizona
Zac Dysert – Miami (OH)
Collin Klein – K State (kinda throws like the White Terrelle Pryor right now)
January 18th, 2013 at 12:06 am
rediaR Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 12:01 am
KoolKell Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 11:59 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 11:39 pm
I thought he looked pretty good. He accounted for all three TD’s, and converted 53% of 3rd downs. No delay of game or false start Penalities.
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Have to apologize. Just realized I’ve posted this exact same post 17 times. Everytime I take Bean-o, it makes my sphincter pucker up, making the blood rush to my head. Can’t remember what I posted. It’s either Bean-o or I have to sleep in the bathtub.
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Don’t forget the toaster.
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Speaking of toasters, wife was trying to remove a pastry from the toaster, with a knife of all things. Hair did a kid rock frizz. Actually looked pretty good, lol.
January 18th, 2013 at 12:08 am
KoolKell Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 11:53 pm
I have the game on DVR u, ur, u can watch it, u
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I’m not as think as you drunk I am
January 18th, 2013 at 12:18 am
KoolKell Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 11:59 pm
Dr_robert Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 11:55 pm
I watched it the first time. I saw enuff.
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We shall see, wannabe.
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wannabe? what the heck are u even talking about?
January 18th, 2013 at 12:44 am
You wannabee me.
January 18th, 2013 at 12:46 am
KoolKell Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 12:44 am
You wannabee me.
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ok. u got me.
January 18th, 2013 at 12:51 am
I have gas in me ass. Btw I say Pryor should be backup this year and then starter the after. Draft a solid RT and look for a mediocre OC. Slim pickings now that all the good ones are gone. I’d still replace tarver with either lovie or Horton.
January 18th, 2013 at 1:38 am
I tweeted Terrelle Pryor and asked him to please not accept a trade out of Oakland, or a release, for him to do everything possible to convince them he must stay, that he ought to be a Raider for life.
He didn’t respond, and it doesn’t even appear on his tweet feed…he normally responds to everyone. I take that as him having heard trade rumors and is okay with it, just wants to start and show the world what he can do.
January 18th, 2013 at 1:39 am
I wish Romo would come out of the booth and coach our Linebackers!!! Bring back WizII, Wylie!!! I sure hope we trade down and pick up a 2nd Rounder, I like to get that RT from A&M, or D.Moore…..Cmon already Reggie, hire a OC already!!!
January 18th, 2013 at 1:48 am
Btw, this is the guy who had me banned and bragged about how he’s in tight with admin etc, on that other site…
https://twitter.com/cottovic
Remember his name now, Victor Cotto
January 18th, 2013 at 1:51 am
Damn Terrelle was huge in High School….gah dang
January 18th, 2013 at 1:54 am
Here’s my conspiracy theory…
Eagles send: Nick Foles
Raiders send: Terrelle Pryor
January 18th, 2013 at 1:54 am
Whisenhunt goes to the dischargers as OC.
And all is quiet in Oakland.
As someone else said, I thought all of this lethargy was over with after Al died.
McKenzie may end up calling Tom Walsh.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:02 am
I’ll wait to see who Reggie hires, but at this point, with all these good choices gone to other teams, I’m worried about the Raiders heading into 2013 again under Reggie and Allen. Unimpressed to date.
Btw, if it were me, I’d trade Palmer for a 2nd, and draft a QB Reggie likes, have him and Pryor compete. Would be a waste to let Pryor, the far younger and more ceiling, go in order to keep Palmer on $15m who has only like 1-3 years left in him tops.
Better imo to go young, seeing as he’s rebuilding tho he says he isn’t.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:03 am
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 1:54 am
Whisenhunt goes to the dischargers as OC.
And all is quiet in Oakland.
As someone else said, I thought all of this lethargy was over with after Al died.
McKenzie may end up calling Tom Walsh.
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I think they are taking their time… i think its an issue of the coordinators
actually having mutual interest as well…
January 18th, 2013 at 2:04 am
GG Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:02 am
I’ll wait to see who Reggie hires, but at this point, with all these good choices gone to other teams, I’m worried about the Raiders heading into 2013 again under Reggie and Allen. Unimpressed to date.
Btw, if it were me, I’d trade Palmer for a 2nd, and draft a QB Reggie likes, have him and Pryor compete. Would be a waste to let Pryor, the far younger and more ceiling, go in order to keep Palmer on $15m who has only like 1-3 years left in him tops.
Better imo to go young, seeing as he’s rebuilding tho he says he isn’t.
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What QB would you draft
and why would a team give up a 2nd and pay 15 mil? (i believe that is whats owed, and you’d trade the contract as well as the player)
January 18th, 2013 at 2:09 am
Chip Kelly: I’m a huge fan of Foles
http://tucsoncitizen.com/wildcatreport/2013/01/17/new-eagles-coach-chip-kelly-on-nick-foles-im-a-huge-fan-of-his/
January 18th, 2013 at 2:12 am
Id draft Glennon. He’s the best imo. Well-schooled in pro-style as well = less time spent on that, sooner to get ready.
Palmer trade…players can restructure their contracts when getting traded to another team.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:18 am
GG Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:02 am
I’ll wait to see who Reggie hires, but at this point, with all these good choices gone to other teams, I’m worried about the Raiders heading into 2013 again under Reggie and Allen. Unimpressed to date.
Btw, if it were me, I’d trade Palmer for a 2nd, and draft a QB Reggie likes, have him and Pryor compete. Would be a waste to let Pryor, the far younger and more ceiling, go in order to keep Palmer on $15m who has only like 1-3 years left in him tops.
Better imo to go young, seeing as he’s rebuilding tho he says he isn’t.
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The Raiders have to rebuild and it’s been obvious for quite awhile. We do not have the players we need to compete.
Both McKenzie and Allen could have done themselves a favor by coming out and saying that we need to rebuild early in this past year.
Instead they insisted that they weren’t rebuilding but if that’s the case then the results of this year made them just look incompetent.
Allen by selecting or settling for Knapp and McKenzie by having slim success: Wheeler and M. Burris.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:19 am
I would love to see them kiss ass and hire Hue back as OC. Without receivers you can count on to catch the ball on third down Hue’s offense works.Love his energy, just not his game day decisions. Same can be said for Allen. You got Jano…. if you make it to the 43….then kick the f’n ball. Cost us two games at least this year. With the upswing of beating Atlanta maybe more. Anyway back to the first point. I know it aint gonna happen but a guy can wish.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:21 am
RaiderSam Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:03 am
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 1:54 am
Whisenhunt goes to the dischargers as OC.
And all is quiet in Oakland.
As someone else said, I thought all of this lethargy was over with after Al died.
McKenzie may end up calling Tom Walsh.
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I think they are taking their time… i think its an issue of the coordinators
actually having mutual interest as well…
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They’re certainly taking their time Sam.
This isn’t new.
We saw it with Al over and over and then the Raiders end up having to settle for someone like Bresnahan.
In all likelehood, it is what Vegas was pointing out in that coaches just don’t want to come here.
Personally, I believe that’s because of the reality that we need a lot of players and are not that competitive.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:25 am
GG Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:02 am
I’ll wait to see who Reggie hires, but at this point, with all these good choices gone to other teams, I’m worried about the Raiders heading into 2013 again under Reggie and Allen. Unimpressed to date.
Btw, if it were me, I’d trade Palmer for a 2nd, and draft a QB Reggie likes, have him and Pryor compete. Would be a waste to let Pryor, the far younger and more ceiling, go in order to keep Palmer on $15m who has only like 1-3 years left in him tops.
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No one is taking Palmer’s salary and he’s not being cut because of the hit on the cap.
Besides, Palmer is a known quantity and our only real quarterback while Prior is still a work in progress.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:26 am
GG Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:12 am
Id draft Glennon. He’s the best imo. Well-schooled in pro-style as well = less time spent on that, sooner to get ready.
Palmer trade…players can restructure their contracts when getting traded to another team.
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Yeah, I saw some footage of Glennon. Has strongest arm in the draft and was firing lasers. Nassib looks good, but he may be more built for a system.
the wild card is Tyler Bray…has the athleticism, in addition to the howitzer arm, but it is raw.
E.J. Manuel and Logan Thomas are esentially Dante Culpepper and Josh Freeman. Im hoping Raiders can find a sleeper QB…we’ll see.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObunrSCZiTU
January 18th, 2013 at 2:27 am
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:21 am
RaiderSam Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:03 am
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 1:54 am
Whisenhunt goes to the dischargers as OC.
And all is quiet in Oakland.
As someone else said, I thought all of this lethargy was over with after Al died.
McKenzie may end up calling Tom Walsh.
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I think they are taking their time… i think its an issue of the coordinators
actually having mutual interest as well…
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They’re certainly taking their time Sam.
This isn’t new.
We saw it with Al over and over and then the Raiders end up having to settle for someone like Bresnahan.
In all likelehood, it is what Vegas was pointing out in that coaches just don’t want to come here.
Personally, I believe that’s because of the reality that we need a lot of players and are not that competitive.
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Yeah, need to upgrade the roster and get out of this salary cap hell.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:27 am
Palmer can restructure his contract when traded to a new team…allows new team to carry thru with the trade. Palmer can refuse a restructure, making no team want to trade for him.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:31 am
oh yeah,
Tyler Bray
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57epDFen2A4
January 18th, 2013 at 2:32 am
Coaching is the biggest reason for this years regression. They took an offence that was respectable and changed to something that they were’nt. Good coaches ask their players to do what they do well on gameday and work on things they don’t do so well at practice. The defense was much better than they were in the last month. They played prmarily man, man blitz. The differnce between the two Denver games was night and day.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:33 am
one more
Zac Dysert
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmMa5Nv2zoI
January 18th, 2013 at 2:34 am
I dont like Bray at all. He throws everything too flat, is way erratic, and is predominantly from the shotgun.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:34 am
GG:
That is true GG but Palmer is still the only certifiable quarterback that we have so I don’t really see the point of trading him.
Say, are you in Marin or Sonoma?
January 18th, 2013 at 2:35 am
the guys that have the biggest chance to move up are Bray and Glennon. There are some nice throws on their tape that go relatively unnoticed because of drops their receivers make…and Tennessee has a couple of draft worthy WRs
January 18th, 2013 at 2:37 am
GG Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:34 am
I dont like Bray at all. He throws everything too flat, is way erratic, and is predominantly from the shotgun.
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LOL, like throwing a 3 yard pass less than two seconds after the snap on 3rd and 30…
Supposedly Dysert is THE sleeper of this draft, great release.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:37 am
Palmer is a good qb. The only fault I see in his game is not being willing to dump off when he should and forcing the ball down field. On the play in wich he got hurt he could have got the ball to dmac early in the play for a first, but held on and got hit.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:37 am
ENGLANDRAIDER…i’d have no problem heading into 2013 with Palmer starter and Pryor back-up. Just saying, we need picks tho. And if we had to trade a QB, it’d be ‘better’ Palmer (less shelf life). I’d also trade Shaughnessy, Branch, McFadden, Brisiel, for whatever we can get.
And, i’m in neither Marin or Sonoma.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:42 am
How about Jordan Rodgers in 2014?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtiqnCF5a9s
January 18th, 2013 at 2:44 am
I’m not sure I agree with Reggie on this.
On one hand, DMAC should run like a demon in a contract year.
On the other, there’s NO way he comes back to us no matter how good of a season he has.
On a third hand, he could have a good year, somehow get a deal from the Raiders, then promptly get injured.
There’s only one scenario that works out for our team: DMAC runs like a beast next year, is willing to come back at a reasonable rate, and doesn’t get injured. Unfortunately, it just doesn’t seem possible that ALL those things will happen.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:49 am
GG:
We do indeed need picks.
To that end I’m not opposed to trading most of them including Palmer as long as we get a proven quarterback in return.
This whole suggestion that Prior be traded is interesting but we could live to regret it. Give him another year.
I just asked about Marin and Sonoma because of the GG handle.
Man, I had some good times in Sonoma.
Terrific place…and all that sunshine…and it’s colder than a well diggers azzhole here.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:50 am
Rebuilding is a myth. Just a way of saying your team isn’t that good right now. Would’nt trade anyone for picks that are’nt proven. Think your gonna get a ss as good or better for that pick. A player as good as Dmac for the pick you would get.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:53 am
One of our areas that needs a little work is the offensive line.
Put Wiz back as LG-a position he has played most of his career-and try Bishop out again as center. He was doing OK there while Wiz was injured.
People who point out the number of sacks this year are forgetting that it is in large part because Palmer gets rid of the ball.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:55 am
ENGLANDRAIDER…
Do you agree with trading (ignoring QB for now), McFadden, Shaughnessy, Branch, Brisiel. Who else would you trade?
January 18th, 2013 at 2:56 am
bishop??? who’s that?
January 18th, 2013 at 2:57 am
– Regarding the change at offensive coordiantor, McKenzie said of Allen: “I was proud the way he identified the issues and attacked them. He didn’t just continue to run this offense and make it work, keep this guy, keep this guy- he evaluated it, said okay, he stood up, and said okay, we’re going to make a change.”
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Actually, Allen does deserve credit for that.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:58 am
I’d trade slolando….
January 18th, 2013 at 3:07 am
GG Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:55 am
ENGLANDRAIDER…
Do you agree with trading (ignoring QB for now), McFadden, Shaughnessy, Branch, Brisiel. Who else would you trade?
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GG:
Yeah, I would agree with that.
Actually, given the state of the team, I’m not opposed to trading anyone if it benefits us by getting us picks for the purpose of rebuilding.
I think at this point it’s a more productive question to ask, who would you think about KEEPING?
I’d keep Wiz, Veldheer, Sebass, Lechler, maybe Wheeler and Burris and maybe Bishop since even average centers are hard to come by.
I think most everybody is expendable.
January 18th, 2013 at 3:13 am
oklahomaRaider18 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:58 am
I’d trade slolando….
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Me too but which team is willing to take a guy who fires off guns near people’s heads, is too fuk’n slow, and acts like he’s twelve years old.
January 18th, 2013 at 3:14 am
oklahomaRaider18 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:56 am
bishop??? who’s that?
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He’s the guy from USC who was playing center while Wiz was injured early in the year.
January 18th, 2013 at 3:20 am
KoolKell Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 12:04 am
Before I leave, I really like how TP threw 68%, for 274 yds. Wave of the future, baby. Deal with it, dumbass.
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Wave of the future?
Lol.
According to Tarkenton, he was the wave of the future and then he went up against Snake.
Stop drinkiing swabby, you’ve killed too many brain cells allready.
January 18th, 2013 at 3:23 am
Raiders current entire roster: http://www.raiders.com/team/roster.html
From that list I’d keep (imo)…
–ACTIVE–
CB: Chekwa, Hanson, Ross, Nelms
S: Huff
DE: Carter, Houston, Crawford (scholarship)
DT: Bryant, Bilukidi (scholarship)
FB: Reece, Olawale
K: Janikowski
LB: Burnett, Burris, Gaither, Wheeler
LS: Condo
OL: Nix, Wisniewski, Bergstrom (scholarship), Parsons, Veldheer
QB: Pryor
HB: Goodson, Stewart, Jones
TE: Ausberry, Gordon, Myers
WR: Criner (scholarship), Hagan, Moore, Streater
–RESERVE/INJURED–
CB: Adams
WR: Calhoun, Ford (strictly KR/PR)
OL: Hurd
P: King
LB: Kurn
–RESERVE/FUTURE–
OL: Foster, Slowey
LB: Harris
FB: Hoese
NT: Jones
CB: Owusu-Ansah
WR: Session, Williams
TE: Shuler
–Everyone else not listed is traded or cut–
January 18th, 2013 at 3:25 am
Remember…we need to field 90 for camp, so that’s why there’s a lot of lesser known names there. Bring them all back for the most part (except a few in their late twenties), as they’re all 22-24 yo, and have them compete and see who can make the pre-season cuts.
January 18th, 2013 at 3:31 am
I might keep keep Ausberry, Meyers, and Steater.
Streater is showing that he might have what it takes.
Watching these playoff games though, our wide receivers are just not in the same league as the ones that we’re seeing.
I think we’ve watched DHB not catch the ball long enough.
The tight ends did OK but that was for two reasons:
1. Palmer knew that Myers was the only one sure to catch the ball.
2. They were coached this year by that famous football offensive coordinator, part artitect of Air Coryell, Mr.Al Sanders.
January 18th, 2013 at 3:32 am
*Streater.
January 18th, 2013 at 3:38 am
Damnation! It’s snowing again!
This crap keeps up and I’m going to have to get me some dogs and a sled.
Out.
January 18th, 2013 at 3:41 am
Lol…”i think we’ve watched DHB not catch the ball long enough”…so true. Like the kid’s attitude etc, but in the end, he’s expendable to an upgraded player.
January 18th, 2013 at 4:14 am
build it the right way
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4-12
January 18th, 2013 at 4:18 am
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 3:14 am
oklahomaRaider18 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:56 am
bishop??? who’s that?
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He’s the guy from USC who was playing center while Wiz was injured early in the year.
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Parsons?
January 18th, 2013 at 4:20 am
Do not draft him Reggie (another headcase)
Report: Te’o “loved the attention,” and teammates were suspicious
With each passing hour that Notre Dame linebacker Manti Te’o remains silent regarding the hoax he claims via a written statement was perpetrated on him, the initial impressions formed by members of the public harden.
And even more information is surfacing to persuade those who are undecided to make up their minds.
The latest comes from Bob Holtzman of ESPN, who reported on College Football Live (via Rotoworld.com) that Te’o’s teammates at Notre Dame sensed that something was amiss regarding the claims of a girlfriend who died in September.
“I talked to a former Notre Dame teammate of Te’o’s today, who told me that most players always thought that this wasn’t really Te’o’s girlfriend,” Holtzman said. “And that they always suspected that this didn’t really add up with the story. [The teammate] also told me that Te’o loved the attention and that even though the story may not have been what it seemed to be, that he was more than happy to play along with it.”
This report suggests that, while the relationship may have begun as a hoax, Te’o played along with it, given that it helped create attention and, ultimately, sympathy.
Anyone who is inclined to be sympathetic to Te’o now needs to hear from him, so that they can justify feeling that way. He needs to talk, and he needs to do it as soon as possible.
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Two days after learning of hoax, Te’o said girlfriend died of cancer
And now perhaps we know why linebacker Manti Te’o has chosen to remain silent for now.
Before he speaks, his handlers need to delve into every nook and cranny of every thing that he or someone in his family said about the situation, so that he’ll be ready for the questions he inevitably faces — from whoever asks them.
Here’s a nook and/or cranny that will open up yet another delicate line of questions. According to WSBT-TV, Te’o made reference to his dead girlfriend two days after the day he supposedly learned of the hoax.
“I don’t like cancer at all. I lost both my grandparents and my girlfriend to cancer,” Te’o said on December 8, while talking to reporters in advance of the Heisman Trophy ceremony.
On Wednesday, Notre Dame Athletic Director Jack Swarbrick said Te’o learned of the hoax on December 6, while he was attending the ESPN college football awards ceremony in Orlando.
Before Te’o speaks, his people need to find every comment that he or anyone in his family has made that will be fodder for interview questions, so that he can be prepared to answer the questions.
This doesn’t mean he’s not telling the truth. Lawyers routinely prepare witnesses to testify by sharing with them all prior statements that they have made, so that they will be careful to tell a consistent and cohesive story. Plenty of people who tell the truth will from time to time misspeak. Good, thorough preparation protects against that.
Even with good preparation, Te’o has to be able to pull it off. The fact that there’s no indication as to when he’ll be talking suggests that Te’o’s people are concerned that it could be too much for him to juggle verbally and mentally, in an inherently stressful situation.
January 18th, 2013 at 4:22 am
Jeffrey Lurie: Jon Gruden made it clear he won’t coach this year
There was talk this offseason that Jon Gruden could be lured to return to coaching with the Eagles. But Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie says that talk didn’t come from Gruden himself.
In fact, Lurie said today that when he reached out to Gruden, Gruden told him in no uncertain terms that he will remain ESPN’s Monday Night Football color commentator in 2013 and will not be a head coach.
“Jon made it clear that he was not coming back to the NFL this year,” Lurie said.
But while Lurie did not interview Gruden for the team’s head coaching vacancy, he did pick Gruden’s brain: Lurie confirmed that he asked Gruden’s opinion about Chip Kelly, and that Gruden told him he had attended an Oregon practice and came away impressed with the way Kelly runs his team.
Some day, Gruden may coach against Kelly in the NFL. But that day will not be in 2013. Gruden is staying in the booth.
January 18th, 2013 at 4:23 am
See, we can’t interest good up and coming OCs. Am worried about Reggie/Allen duo…
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Report: Carmichael will turn down interviews, intends to stay with Saints
Earlier on Thursday there was a report that the Jaguars have requested permission to interview Saints offensive coordinator Pete Carmichael for the same role on new coach Gus Bradley’s staff.
It doesn’t look like an interview will happen and not because the Saints will block Carmichael, whose contract with the team expires shortly. Larry Holder of the New Orleans Times-Picayune reports that Carmichael is expected to turn down the Jacksonville request because his intention is to remain with the Saints.
Holder also reports that he’ll turn down an interview request from the Eagles, although we haven’t heard of any formal request being made before or after Chip Kelly was hired as the head coach.
Carmichael has been on Sean Payton’s staff since Payton took over as the head coach in 2006. It’s been one of the league’s most potent offenses in that period, a record that helped Carmichael get an interview for a head coaching job in Chicago this month. Another year and another powerful Saints offense could get him even more looks for the next step up the ladder at this time in 2014.
January 18th, 2013 at 4:29 am
Another example to worry…
Ken Whisenhunt, a recent long-tenured HC, was happy to return to OC’ing a team under a first year HC in former Broncos OC Mike McCoy.
Meanwhile, in Oakland…best he could get on short notice was Greg Knapp in year one, and now, no one of similar merit wants to OC under him after seeing him HC in 2012.
January 18th, 2013 at 4:31 am
rediaR Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 4:18 am
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 3:14 am
oklahomaRaider18 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:56 am
bishop??? who’s that?
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He’s the guy from USC who was playing center while Wiz was injured early in the year.
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Parsons?
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Yeah, my mistake, Parsons.
A bishop is a little higher up than a parson.
January 18th, 2013 at 4:48 am
Aaron Rodgers not convinced of read-option staying power
San Francisco 49ers quarterback Kaepernick hugs Green Bay Packers quarterback Rodgers after they defeated the Packers in their NFL NFC Divisional play-off football game in San Francisco Reuters
The Packers have every reason in the world to believe in the power of the read option, after watching 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick dismantle them in the playoffs.
But Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers is willing to take a longer view, that the suddenly hot system isn’t going to be a staple of NFL offenses forever.
“I think the league is cyclical and things can come back around that were being used 20, 30 years ago. But this too will pass,” Rodgers said on his weekly radio show on 540 ESPN and ESPNWisconsin.com. “Some of the pistol read-option stuff will eventually pass. Now, that may not be for 10 more years.
“The athletic quarterback I don’t think is going to pass at all. I think you’ve seen a trend of more and more guys who can make plays when the pocket breaks down and extend plays, who are also good passers. I think you’re going to continue to see that; we’ve seen a lot of that the last few years especially. . . .
“But I think that as we saw five years ago with the wildcat stuff – it had its success and less and less people are doing it and now. It’s more of the zone-read stuff – reading the end or keeping it and pulling it with a quarterback who has some athleticism. At some point, on some level, they’re going to figure out how to consistently stop that, and then that will make its way up to the NFL. Or, enough for these (quarterbacks), who are going to be franchise guys if they’re not already, may take some unnecessary shots or decide that they’d rather stay in the pocket and throw it then rush the ball 15 times a game. And then you can kind of see it gradually go in the other direction, I think.”
Rodgers is certainly athletic enough to run when he needs to, but the Packers are smart enough to know that the best use of their resource is to keep him throwing the ball rather than running. The knee injury suffered by Washington’s Robert Griffin III is a concern for anyone considering such a move, as the quarterback is at more risk than one who stays in the pocket and throws.
But with Chip Kelly taking the Eagles job — and the success of the 49ers and Redskins and Seahawks — the number of teams incorporating spread and read-option elements is only growing. And that puts the pressure on NFL defenses to adjust, and they’ll certainly spend the offseason doing so.
January 18th, 2013 at 4:54 am
Dungy suspects Wilson, Kaepernick helped change Chip Kelly’s mind
San Francisco 49ers quarterback Kaepernick scrambles away from Green Bay Packers Neal and Matthews in their NFL NFC Divisional playoff football game in San Francisco Reuters
Last week, Chip Kelly was adamant that he had decided to stay at Oregon rather than leave for the NFL. Yesterday, Kelly announced that he has decided to leave to coach the Eagles. So what changed?
Tony Dungy, the former Buccaneers and Colts coach whose son plays at Oregon, has a theory: Kelly watched the playoffs last weekend and became more convinced than ever that his offense can work in the NFL.
“I know all the players and everyone around the University of Oregon was shocked,” Dungy said on the Dan Patrick Show. “They wouldn’t have been shocked if it had happened 12 days ago because Chip had said, ‘Hey, I’m going to take a look at these things.’ And I talked to him at that time, we talked about a few things about NFL football versus college football and that kind of thing. And I was convinced he had decided to stay. He just thought he was in a great situation and I thought that was that. But I have a guess. And I could be wrong, I don’t know, it’s just a guess. But I’ll ask you, Dan: Could it be that Chip Kelly watched the playoffs and watched Russell Wilson run a little bit of his read option in the spread offense, and watched Colin Kaepernick run a little bit more of it?”
Dungy added that he thinks Kelly watched the playoffs thinking, “My offense is way farther advanced than that, and maybe if this is going through the NFL, it might not be so tough.”
In Dungy’s view, Kelly didn’t jump for more money because Nike founder and Oregon booster Phil Knight was willing to spend whatever it took to keep Kelly. And Dungy doesn’t believe that looming NCAA sanctions convinced Kelly to leave, either.
“I don’t think it’s money at all,” Dungy said. “Nike has as much as anybody. I don’t think it’s sanctions — from what I know of everything that’s going on there, I really think it’s strictly football and vision and making this work in the NFL and seeing if I can compete against the best.”
Now Kelly will see — after Wilson and Kaepernick already showed him that spread concepts can be employed effectively in the NFL.
January 18th, 2013 at 5:29 am
Aaron Rodgers is wrong about the pistol being the new wildcat. He’s not thinking clearly. The Green Bay defense saw the tape on Kaepernick. They had time to prepare. They misjudged his raw speed, and even in backside pursuit, their angles were all wrong. They tried to cheat on coverage and got burned badly for it. When you have a QB that can run like Kappy and throw a ball on a rope with accuracy and you run out of the sets and formations that the 49ers run, that’s not just a gimmick offense.
But where I agree with Rodgers is that it will eventually fade because it puts the QB in a lot of risk of injury. Atlanta is going to be the next victim. They have no defense for Kappy and Gore. None.
January 18th, 2013 at 5:37 am
Well, for grins, I charted the first round draft picks over the last 10 years by the top 3 teams still left standing (Pats, SF, Falcons) by position. Here is the breakdown…
Offense
QB = 2
WR = 6
OT = 5
OG = 2
TE = 2
RB = 1
Defense
DE = 3
DT = 4
LB = 5
CB = 2
S = 1
18 offensive picks and 15 defensive picks combined.
The clear loser on offense was C with no picks, then RB. The winners were WR and OT.
The clear loser on defense was S. The winners LB and DT.
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Great post!!!
With the new rules, WR is becoming one of the most important positions in football.
Especially the way they call PI now. You can leave 5 guys in to block, have the defense send 6, and you just heave it up off your back foot to a WR.
45 yard penalty, first and goal.
January 18th, 2013 at 5:44 am
Atlanta is going to be the next victim. They have no defense for Kappy and Gore. None
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Disagree completely.
Best way to stop these read-option things is with secondary players, not DE/LB’s.
Falcons have two of the best tackling secondary players in the NFL, Dunta Robinson and Thomas Decoud.
Falcons will jump out to a big lead just like last week, and hold on for a victory.
January 18th, 2013 at 5:52 am
Atlanta is the best team in football, have been since week 1.
They pasted the Giants, while the 49ers lost by 3 TD’s to them.
They just beat a Seahawks team that beat the 49ers by 30 points a few weeks earlier.
And, the ATL front office is using the football version of Sabermetrics with Dimitroff and his staff of Ivy league egg-heads.
That is the “Wave of the Future”, complete statisticaly analysis in viewing draft picks and FA’s.
January 18th, 2013 at 5:53 am
553.rudegruden Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 9:26 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 9:23 pm
You want the Run game going.. U want the best OC on the market.. well like Greg Papa said and I agree
CAM CAMERON is your man
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I would be very happy with taking Cam Cameron. I just worry DA is too afraid to pull the trigger on a guy with HC experience.
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Which is why he’s avoided contacting Norv Turner, Marc Trestman and Mike Martz, right?
January 18th, 2013 at 5:54 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
January 18th, 2013 at 5:57 am
Disagree completely.
Best way to stop these read-option things is with secondary players, not DE/LB’s.
Falcons have two of the best tackling secondary players in the NFL, Dunta Robinson and Thomas Decoud.
Falcons will jump out to a big lead just like last week, and hold on for a victory.
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Disagree completely. Falcons are a soft defense. They dont wrap when they tackle. They try to bump people to the turf or push them out of bounds. They are miserable against running QB’s. Cam Newton torched them this year. Go back and look at their record against running QB’s. Kappy is going to tear them up.
January 18th, 2013 at 5:58 am
49ers 1-2 in domes this year.
Falcons have the best home record over the last 5 years, I think around 90% winning percentage.
January 18th, 2013 at 5:58 am
Good Morning Hawaiian Raider!
A shot in the dark, but I’m applying for a job up in V-town this morning. I used to work up there back in the day. I guess you should never say never (as I did about ever returning to CA)
January 18th, 2013 at 6:01 am
Go back and look at their record against running QB’s
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3-1 this year?
Beat Sea, Wash, Car and lost to Car.
January 18th, 2013 at 6:02 am
Should have lost to Seattle. Last game was very fluky. Better team lost that day. You know it I know it.
January 18th, 2013 at 6:03 am
guest123 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 5:58 am
Good Morning Hawaiian Raider!
A shot in the dark, but I’m applying for a job up in V-town this morning. I used to work up there back in the day. I guess you should never say never (as I did about ever returning to CA)
V-town? Vallejo? Good Morning and Happy Aloha Friday!
January 18th, 2013 at 6:04 am
guest123 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 6:02 am
Should have lost to Seattle. Last game was very fluky. Better team lost that day. You know it I know it.
That I agree…but Seattle started off way too slow! It caught up with them!
January 18th, 2013 at 6:05 am
The only thing fluky was Seattle getting hot for 10 minutes.
Falcons were the best team 50 minutes of the game.
January 18th, 2013 at 6:08 am
Funny…Browns hired Michael Lombardi as GM!
January 18th, 2013 at 6:08 am
You’d think McDonald or Corkran could’ve posted this…
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General Manager Reggie McKenzie answered questions from the media as the Raiders turn the page on 2012 and look forward to 2013.
GM Reggie McKenzie sat with the media and answered their questions.
General Manager Reggie McKenzie’s opening statement: “I appreciate you all bearing with me and kind of getting some things straightened out here. At the end of the season, a lot is going on. This is kind of where my season picks up as you all well know, but I appreciate you guys waiting here. I want to get this thing before I head to the Senior Bowl. It’s going to start rolling again after the Senior Bowl. But I’m here to answer questions. The one thing I don’t want to do is give the other teams in the league any competitive advantage against the Oakland Raiders, so with that being said, certain questions will not be answered [in detail]. It all depends on what you ask, okay guys? I’m here for you guys. Shoot away.”
Q: So who are you going to draft?
McKenzie: “We’re not going to do that. You can ask…”
Q: Where are you in terms of filling out the coaching staff?
McKenzie: “It’s going well. We should be coming up with some answers shortly, but it’s progressing well.”
Q: Do you think you’ll have answers before the Senior Bowl?
McKenzie: “They’re winding down right now. All of them, no. But we’re trying to wrap them all up within in a few days, so we’ll see how it goes.”
Q: In terms of releasing information, are you going to wait until you have them all?
McKenzie: “Unless it’s one that’s further along, we may do a majority of them at one time, but we would like to just get them all done at once.”
Q: How involved are you in those interviews or is it mostly [Head Coach] Dennis [Allen]?
McKenzie: “We’re both involved and when you get down to the nitty-gritty of it, it’s Dennis, especially when you talk particulars, but we’re both involved.”
Q: When it comes to those particulars, is it philosophy, what are you looking for in an offensive coordinator?
McKenzie: “The entire gamut – not only philosophy, but particulars of how do you use certain players, not just scheme. It’s about the players, it’s about situations. It’s the entire gamut.”
Q: Is that kind of a learning process that you guys learn from last year, not just be married to the scheme, to actually adapt to personnel?
McKenzie: “I don’t think Dennis was married to a scheme. He saw a scheme that he was interested in and liked what it had to offer. To me, it’s not about scheming. People get so tied up in scheme; it’s how you use your players and how you execute.”
Q: What do you think about the pool of candidates out there for that position [offensive coordinator]? It seems like there’s a lot of experienced people available that came free.
McKenzie: “Yeah, right from the beginning when stuff started to hit the fan, we talked to Norv Turner. We talked to all of them. We talked to a lot of guys, but we’re winding it down now to a couple of guys and we’ll see.”
Q: Last year you were obviously hamstrung by the salary cap problems and the need to jettison players. Are you in a position this year to basically shape this team the way you wanted to? How constricted are you going to be?
McKenzie: “Personally, I think we’re about a year away from that. We’re not in the salary cap situation like last year, but we still have issues and have some decisions that have to be made before free agency or when free agency starts. We’re not out of the woods by any stretch, but we are better off than last year.”
Q: Do you expect to have, without giving any names of any of them, you have a lot of your own free agents. I’m sure some of them you’d like to have back. Do you expect to have some of those signed before free agency hits?
McKenzie: “Well, it’s hopeful. Anytime when you trying to do a deal, there’s two people that you have to work it out, so if we can work it out, absolutely. That’s the plan.”
Q: When will there be a resolution for Rolando McClain?
McKenzie: “Resolution as to?”
Q: Are you going to get rid of him?
McKenzie: “See that’s a particular question that we’re talking about.”
Q: Does that go back to competitive advantage?
McKenzie: “Yes, it does. I don’t want to kind of give any information out.”
Q: Did he do then what he needed to do when he came back in terms of repairing whatever damage he had caused?
McKenzie: “Yes, he was not an issue. You’re talking about when he came back after the suspension?”
Q: Yes.
McKenzie: “Yeah, he was not an issue.”
Q: Have you or Dennis talked to him since the latest arrest?
McKenzie: “No.”
Q: Do you plan to talk to him?
McKenzie: “Regarding the arrest? No.”
Q: Could you have cut him even if you had wanted to because of the salary cap or would there have been issues of having to work other contracts or release another player?
McKenzie: “Doing this when we have over 30 million dollars over with him the way his contract was, no. I did not have the luxury to do anything because of our current situation as it was. I was trying to get under. When you’re trying to get rid of 30 million-plus, it’s hard when you’re trying to bring in more to add on to that.”
Q: That was originally when you were 30 million…but I mean, in season could you have done it without some sort of acceleration that would have been bad for the cap?
McKenzie: “Yeah, there’s always acceleration with anybody that you have money tied in to.”
Q: Did that preclude you from making a move, that acceleration?
McKenzie: “To be honest, I’m not going to sit and try to…it’s my hope to not be hamstrung by any contract situation. You can make anything work out. You can manipulate other contracts and get some cap room, but it wasn’t a situation where it was squeaky clean deal.”
Q: The ‘you can make anything work out’ seemed to be the philosophy here for a long time. And obviously you could do that too if you wished, but you choose to go in a different direction. What are the advantages of the way you want to do it?
McKenzie: “I’m looking for the future. We’re trying to build something here. And with building, you can’t mortgage the future in doing that. So we’re trying to lay down a good foundation, get the core players that we’ve seen can build this team the right way and make good sound decisions, be it financial, the personnel, coaching, whatever it is. You see the mistake, correct it. That’s the only way you’re going to get better. And that’s kind of our philosophy. We’re not trying to hurry up to win one or two games and mortgage the possibility of winning 10 more, you know what I’m saying? We’re just going to build it the right way, make good sound decisions.”
Q: Do you have less of those core players than maybe you thought you were going to have going into year two or was there no way to know as you move forward?
McKenzie: “When you evaluate like last year during the off-season, of course you wish you had more of the core players, but no, there’s no way knowing going in, but at the end of the season, you evaluate what you have and you’re hopeful that the ones that you thought were going to be good are good and you want the players to continue to get better and your veteran players, you want them to continue to be productive. We have a ways to go. We’re not there yet by any stretch.”
Q: Disappointing year statistically and production-wise for Darren McFadden – 3 yards per carry or 3.5, not what he expected or you or anybody else – he’s got one more year, at least he did in his original contract. Is there a decision to be made there or are you pretty confident that Darren is going to play his last season here?
McKenzie: “I’m confident Darren is going to play his last season regardless of what’s out there. We have no decision to do anything with Darren.”
Q: You say it’s not necessarily about system, it’s about players making plays; was there an issue with the system and how it fit with Darren?
McKenzie: “That’s what I’m saying when you talk about system versus looking for production, looking for plays that fit the players. It’s obvious that Darren is much better on certain type of plays. That goes without saying. That’s how you’ve got to do it. You talk about being productive, when you’re talking about offensively moving the ball, scoring points, getting some plays out of your big play guys, you’ve got to find ways to figure out letting him do what he does best. We didn’t do that.”
Q: Why do you think he struggled so much?
McKenzie: “If you’re running Darren – I’m not an offensive guru – but I do know that when Darren is running certain plays, it’s pretty doggone good. And he had some last year. But when you talk about a scheme, he’s not a lateral mover. He’s not one of those guys. As soon as he can go north and south, that’s when he’s at his best.”
Q: How much of Darren’s problems were from the line, were a result of what went on upfront with the line?
McKenzie: “It’s the whole gamut. The offensive line did not play as well as we had hoped. I’m sure Darren would like to take back a couple of his reads. You can’t just point it at this is the only fault. Was it scheme? The execution of it? How you draw it up? Who made their blocks? The fullback’s block? The tight end’s block? It’s the total package. You can’t just put the failure of the run game on one situation.”
GM Reggie McKenzie answers questions from the media. Photo by Tony Gonzales
Q: When we talked to you last time, you said you wanted to see a little bit of Terrelle Pryor in game action and see what you had. What did you see in the time he got, especially that one start in the end?
McKenzie: “Well, what I did see with Terrelle that I was pleased with, he protected the ball. In the game where you have snapping issues, even with handing off with the ball slipping, protecting when he’s being rushed, he protected the ball. That was a plus for me. To see that and to see snap count, the offensive linemen getting used to his cadence. And him getting the plays out and the motions and all the little things he has to do to make sure there were no issues with penalties before the ball is snapped. Now, obviously, you can see the plays when things break down where he can kind of create and do some things. But he had a chance to make some throws and he did pretty good. I was encouraged. Hopefully the new offensive coordinator and find a way to see what he can do best in this off-season and see what he looks like in preseason games.”
Q: Would you be confident in him as the number two guy next year?
McKenzie: “Right now he’s our number two. We’ve got Matt Leinart as a free agent. I’m going to bring guys in. I’m not penciling in anybody at any position as one, two. I’m going to have somebody in here to try to compete with everybody. So I’m going to get into who is two or three or number one for that matter.”
Q: Obviously running quarterbacks this year have had some success around the league. Do you assess his skills differently seeing that it can work?
McKenzie: “You’ve still got to have the total package too. People talk about RG [Robert Griffin III] and [Russell] Wilson and [Colin] Kaepernick. You have to make the short, medium, long throws to be effective. When you play eight or nine in the box and just all off and come get you if you can’t complete balls too…”
Q: From a talent evaluation standpoint, as you see the league, at least some teams gravitating toward more quarterback oriented runs, does that make you evaluate the position any differently going forward?
McKenzie: “You’ve got to evaluate. That doesn’t mean you change your philosophy and you’re going to go strictly with an option running-type quarterback. It’s always nice to have options. If you can get a guy that can throw it, which all quarterbacks are going to have to be able to throw the football, then on top of that he can run it, that’s the old adage of being a dual threat. Get a defensive end that can play the run and rush the passer, that’s what you want. You got a dual threat with a guy that’s touching the ball every play…so people are making a big deal out of it. If you’ve got a guy that you have to watch out creating a lot of plays when things break down, making something out of nothing, that’s hard to defend.”
Q: Is that more dangerous to your way of thinking of making things that break down, then the read option plays that everybody is..?
McKenzie: “Yeah, because the read option, you can defense that, but that read option and throwing the ball all around the field, it’s hard. That’s hard to defend.”
Q: You being a former linebacker, why don’t the linebackers just hit the quarterback in the face on that read option every single time to give him a second thought?
McKenzie: “I have no idea because I would. You can say that’s easier said than done, but players are taught to play the defense and do what’s told of them to execute the defense. But that’s one execution that I would like to see. If our defense is playing against that type, which we will, we play Washington and Philly, so if they continue with that offense, I would think Coach [Jason] Tarver would make sure we hit the quarterback.”
Q: Even if you get penalized still? They protect him even though it’s close, they’re still going to protect him?
McKenzie: “Yeah, they’re going to protect him a little bit. But once they start running the ball, you can never spear a guy. You can’t do certain things.”
Q: So you’re saying once he takes off?
McKenzie: “I think a lot of these NFL coaches are going to be smart about not putting their quarterback in harm’s way.”
Q: How’s Carson?
McKenzie: “He’s coming around. He’s doing much better. He’s healing up fine. That’s the reports I’ve got, earlier this week actually. As of Monday, he’s doing fine.”
Q: So as far as your understanding is when the off-season program begins or when you’re on the field for the first time for OTAs, whenever that is, that Carson will be up and ready to go?
McKenzie: “Yes. He should be ready to go barring any setbacks.”
Q: Are you set on keeping that third pick or would you be open if somebody comes and says we want to move up to that spot, we’ll give you a couple picks in return?
McKenzie: “I’m not going to get into what we’ll do, but I’m not tied down to anything in January. But I’m sure my mind will change so many times before April. But it’ll be interesting to see what happens.”
Q: Speaking of the draft, I’m curious what your thoughts are on Manti Te’o at this point. We don’t know obviously whether he was part of this hoax or if he was just a dupe of it, but how much does it diminish him in the eyes of the NFL?
McKenzie: “The one thing I can say, I haven’t been reading or been up to date with all this stuff that’s going on, I was traveling yesterday and I got so many texts and emails about, ‘what in the world?’ So I decided to let this thing settle down and then try to figure out what happened. What is this all about? I really don’t know the gist of what’s going on with Manti, but apparently it’s something huge because it’s not only because it’s the sports world, but it’s news in general. That’s a lot of stuff that’s going on there. I’m sure because the enormity of what’s going on, he’s got to answer some questions. So depends on how it comes out.”
Q: Before it happened, did you regard him as a top-10 pick?
McKenzie: “Yeah, the guy, the players, top-10 pick, top-15, top-20, or I don’t know, but we liked him as a player. We’ll see. It’s a shame that all this media attention that’s gone to him in regards to this incident or whatever. It’ll be interesting to see what happens through it all.”
Q: Regardless of what happens when a player does get involved in headlines like that, does it make you not want to take a chance sometimes on that?
McKenzie: “It makes you go and get all the answers – cross your ‘T’s’ and dot your ‘I’s’ and make sure with any player you’ve got to know what you’re getting from a character standpoint. Other than his ability, his talents, try to get to know the guy. So yes, it’s going to weigh in heavily.”
Q: There’s been some reports of a potential Raiders executive being hired, whether that’s going to happen or not, I don’t know, but like a team president or along those lines. Is it your understanding that regardless of what’s hired in terms of the front office that your job is as you got it last year unchanged in terms of going ahead?
McKenzie: “You know with this whole position, that’s a Mark Davis deal and like I said, I don’t want to give any leeway or his line of thinking on that. Even if it’s regards to any lead in the NFL to our way of thinking, I don’t want to divulge any information in that regard. I’ll let Mark answer those questions.”
Q: How was Mark’s mood at the end of the season, in your perspective?
McKenzie: “Me and Mark, we talk all the time. His concerns were, as mine, how are we going to get better, mainly offensively? We talked about players, we talked about everything. Nobody is happy with a four-win season, let’s get that straight. At the end, we talked about how to upgrade. We didn’t dwell on the negative, if that’s what you’re asking. We talked about, what is the plan? That’s where we were.”
Q: What do you think you got moving forward, in terms of last year’s draft with no premium picks? Do you think moving forward you have some good players coming out of there? This year’s rookies, and including Rod Streater in there even though he wasn’t a draft pick.
McKenzie: “We were pleased. You hope to have three players in the top-100, but we didn’t. But what we were picking, we are excited about what we have. We think we’re going to get those guys improving moving forward to next year. We’re happy with the class of 2012.”
Q: Was it a disappointment at all that [Tony] Bergstrom couldn’t get on the field more?
McKenzie: “No. I’m sure he would have liked to have played more, but the staff decided to go with the veterans and let them play. I’m not mad at Bergstrom, but I think he was definitely worthy of playing some.”
Q: How would you assess your free agent signings from last year? Obviously Streater did well, [Philip] Wheeler did well, what about the rest?
McKenzie: “I don’t want to get into it…The one thing I can say with the injury situation – I didn’t expect two of the corners to go down in game one and game two. When you’re talking about [Ron] Bartell getting hurt, he was already hurt during training camp, and then he got hurt on another injury. He just couldn’t rebound. You get older players like that and Shawntae [Spencer] couldn’t rebound from his foot. It was tough that way. You don’t account for injuries. You don’t sign guys thinking they’re going to get injured. You try to look at the history and go from there. Even with big Mike Brisiel, he had a bad ankle and it got worse and worse. We had to do major surgery here at the end of the season with him. He’s going to be working to get back in full.”
Q: How much do you think that affected [Brisiel’s] play?
McKenzie: “A lot. He couldn’t drive off of it like he would like. But he had a bum ankle. A lot of these guys play through a lot of things.”
Q: Did he have it most of the season?
McKenzie: “It was an ongoing deal. He had a whole lot of nicks throughout the season.”
Q: You look at the way you seem to be approaching things, salary cap conscious, building with young players, talent you want to develop yourself. You’d look from the outside and think that Richard Seymour and Shane Lechler would be hard to imagine finding a place for them. Would that be?
McKenzie: “Everything is still going to be predicated on money. You get guys that are used to making a set amount and they’re premier players. You don’t know what the other teams are going to throw out there from a contract standpoint. I don’t think you toss anything out of the window. It’s our plan, throughout the roster, to upgrade. If we have a little leeway to sign more players, we’ll do that. We’re going to try to do it from the standpoint of ‘with the future in mind,’ not just get a one-shot guy to save the day. We’re going to try to build this thing. If we can add two, three, four players in the off-season before the draft, we’ll do that, if they’re the right guys. If we can get them and get them to fit within our structure and our salary cap, we’ll do it. We’re not just going to sit back and not go after guys because we want to get in a better salary cap situation. We’re going to pinpoint some guys and try to go after them. If we can get them or not, that remains to be seen.”
Q: What kind of advantage is it coaching the Senior Bowl that you can’t do just showing up to it?
McKenzie: “Number one, we can see hands-on how they can pick up a system and how they lead the groups, how they are in meeting rooms, their communication skills. We can sit around in the meeting room, we’ll have scouts in there, and we get hands-on information.”
Q: So, only your scouts get to go and none of the other scouts from other teams?
McKenzie: “Oh absolutely. When we are in meetings, position meetings, they’re right there.”
Q: So it’s not just the coaches, the scouts are in there, too?
McKenzie: “Yes. We get to be a part of it, too. There’s something to be said when you can eat at the dinner table with a guy and get to know guys from that end, as opposed to an interview process, more formal. When they let their guard down a little bit, you can see how they mix and mingle with their teammates. I think its invaluable information. You get to see the real person.”
Q: Besides Brisiel, are there other guys that needed surgery after the season?
McKenzie: “I don’t have the whole list. I know Khalif Barnes had to get surgery. He was out there playing with one arm the last few games when he played. I can’t remember off the top of my head. We had a couple guys that needed to get taken care of. Miles Burris had to have a little scope; a knee thing.”
Q: Was there anything other than, I don’t know Barnes’ situation, but sounds like Brisiel has a long road, by OTAs should be good?
McKenzie: “Yeah, you’re talking about mid-April or May. Everybody should be good to go by mini-camp.”
Q: Speaking of Burris and the other linebackers, were you unhappy with their development? Is that why Coach [Johnny] Holland was fired?
McKenzie: “No. I think Coach Dennis Allen had his major reasons for doing that. But it was not the play of Miles and you can’t blame Johnny for Rolando’s actions or moving around a couple of guys, that’s not it at all. That would be something Dennis would be better suited to answer particular questions like that.”
Q: How do you assess Dennis’ first year, rookie season?
McKenzie: “I thought what he did with his team, trying to create a culture in that locker room and get those players to believe that we’re making a change here, we try to do this thing the right way in the way we practice, the way we approach games, and I thought he did a really good job getting these players to buy into what we’re doing. Talking to these players, players are looking forward to getting back and that’s what it’s all about. You want a good response to the head coach, to how he’s leading the team and how they follow him. I was very pleased by the way he led the team and, to be honest, I’m proud in the way he identified the issues and attacked it. He didn’t just continue to, ‘okay we’re going to continue to run this offense and make it work or we’re going to continue to keep this guy or keep this guy.’ He evaluated it; he stood up and said, ‘okay, we’re going to make a change,’ and did that. I like the way he led this team, the way the defense played especially at the end. It was encouraging. I see much better things in the future. I mean, he’s a rookie coach just like I’m a rookie GM. But for a rookie coach, I like the way he led this team.”
Q: The way the defense played in December after a really bad November, was that something you were looking for?
McKenzie: “Yes, and I thought we responded defensively. So, we just have to continue to improve and upgrade what we need to and we’ll get better. It seems like the defense was trying to develop an identity at the end, started to figure it out. I thought they played some pretty good football.”
Q: You talked about him changing the culture and the players responding; what did Dennis Allen and the staff do as far as having players play more disciplined football every year? That’s talked about but it was acted on this year.
McKenzie: “Well, the way we practice. The way they practice, those guys didn’t allow for all the negatives in play from a penalty standpoint, jumping off-sides, everything was confronted right then. That’s the way you’ve got to do it. You don’t let stuff slide, whether it’s being late to a meeting, whether it’s not doing your assignment in practice, or there’s some kind of holding penalty, you know. You let the DBs know, ‘no, you can’t do that.’ You don’t just let them do stuff and just… ‘okay, they’ll get it in the game.’ No, it’s right then and there. Let’s nip it right here and that helps. It’s not going to be the end all, but it will help. They did a good job. The coaching staff did a good job. I thought practices, even when we couldn’t buy a game, the intensity and the enthusiasm and the attention to detail in practice, they were on it. The morale was not down and out at all, so it was good. It was good to see.”
Q: Getting back to the timing of when you’re going to have a new offensive coordinator and some of the other assistants, I’m a little unclear. How soon do you think you’re going to make…?
McKenzie: “Well, I don’t want to give a timeline. But we are in the process; things are going pretty well the last couple of days so we’ll see how it goes.”
Q: Are you still talking to Norv Turner?
McKenzie: “No. I’m saying right from the beginning when we hit this thing running at the beginning. I specifically haven’t talked to Norv since…after he told me he was interested. So we move on.”
Q: He took the Cleveland job today…
McKenzie: “Yes, he took it today. But guys like Norv, Marc Trestman, we had our list down. But a lot of guys…there are other jobs out there. It’s like free agency. You wish that you could get certain guys, but sometimes you don’t always get certain guys, but you’ve got a list that you feel good about and that’s where we are now.”
Q: How many of them would you say you’ve already talked to? A handful?
McKenzie: “I would say…a few.”
Q: And your Super Bowl pick?
McKenzie: “I guess I’d have to go with pretty much everyone else. I’ve got to put my money on Tom Brady.”
Q: I don’t think you’re supposed to say, ‘put my money on.’ [Laughing]
McKenzie: “Considering I don’t have a dime…”
January 18th, 2013 at 6:08 am
There isn’t a respectable, proven offensive mind on the market willing to work under the DA’s visor.
Reggie is gonna prolong correcting his first error as GM, AT LEAST one more year.
January 18th, 2013 at 6:08 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 6:05 am
The only thing fluky was Seattle getting hot for 10 minutes.
Falcons were the best team 50 minutes of the game.
Yeah, that’s when their D woke up…lol
January 18th, 2013 at 6:11 am
V-town? Vallejo? Good Morning and Happy Aloha Friday!
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Yep, that’s the one. I used to live in Benicia waaaay back in the day. If I get that job, for sure I’m getting season tix.
January 18th, 2013 at 6:17 am
Job perk!
And a bonus. At a minimum quarterly business trips to Hawaii.
January 18th, 2013 at 6:22 am
I will see your business trips to Hawaii and raise you my business trips to Clovis, NM!!!!
January 18th, 2013 at 6:28 am
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2013/1/17/3889538/still-several-potential-offensive-coordinators-for-oakland-raiders
The coaches on the market to take an offensive coordinator job have been flying off the shelves of late. The head coaches are all in place and the attention has shifted to the coordinators.
The most recent offensive coordinators to find landing spots were Aaron Kromer (Bears), which occurred Wendesday and Norv Turner (Browns) and Ken Whisenhunt (Chargers) who both signed on Thursday. All three of them would have been solid offensive coordinator choices in Oakland.
The Raiders have reportedly interviewed three candidates thus far – Marc Trestman, Mike Martz, and Greg Olson – but Trestman became the Bears head coach and there is no indication the Raiders will be offering the OC job to either of the other two.
The Raiders are one of only a handful of teams still without an offensive coordinator. Despite many of the best ones already gone, there are still a few good names out there to be had.
Several of the fired head coaches already found jobs. Three offensive minded coaches still remain — Mike Mularkey, Chan Gailey, and Pat Shurmer. Two other potential candidates were left without a team when their head coach was fired including former Eagles OC Marty Mornhinweg and former Bears OC Mike Tice. The remaining name out there is Ravens former OC Cam Cameron who was fired midway through the 2012 season.
There are also, of course, the three Green Bay candidates — Bob McAdoo, James Campen, and Jerry Fontenot. These three become candidates based on the strength of their resumes. Their being from the Packers organization only adds to their chances with Reggie McKenzie’s history with the team.
The lone college candidate whose name seems to be bandied about of late is Stanford offensive coordinator, Pep Hamilton. He has held the OC position for the Cardinal for two seasons and is producing some buzz as an OC candidate in NFL circles. His hiring would mean both of Dennis Allen’s coordinators came from Stanford.
So, as you can see, there are a few candidates from whom to choose. But not all candidates are equal and not all are what the Raiders are looking for. This whole search has already taken longer than most had expected. But from the beginning, it was known that there were many great prospective offensive coordinators to be had.
It is a double edged sword to be certain. On one hand, the Raiders need to be sure they get the coach they want before someone else does (which may have already happened). On the other hand being one of the few remaining jobs, the Raiders look more and more enticing (although a coach signing out of desperation is not really a good thing).
The longer the Raiders wait, the more criticism they would invite with regard to their coaching search. It was a long process last year and forced what many saw as settling for bringing back Greg Knapp as the offensive coordinator. That’s not the kind of mistake they can afford to make again.
They can still get a prime candidate, but they better hurry and get their guy before they are left with the scraps again.
January 18th, 2013 at 6:29 am
guest123 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 6:11 am
V-town? Vallejo? Good Morning and Happy Aloha Friday!
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Yep, that’s the one. I used to live in Benicia waaaay back in the day. If I get that job, for sure I’m getting season tix.
guest123 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 6:17 am
Job perk!
And a bonus. At a minimum quarterly business trips to Hawaii.
Cool, Guest! If that happens, let me know…gotta tailgate man!
January 18th, 2013 at 6:29 am
I will see your business trips to Hawaii and raise you my business trips to Clovis, NM!!!!
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lol
I used to live in Clovis, CA that’s too funny.
January 18th, 2013 at 6:30 am
I used to live in Clovis, CA that’s too funny.
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The only place that is a bigger dump than Clovis, Ca is in fact Clovis, NM
January 18th, 2013 at 6:33 am
MIKE TICE WITH THE SAME PENCILE BEHIND HIS EAR FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS..YIKES !!
January 18th, 2013 at 6:33 am
Cool, Guest! If that happens, let me know…gotta tailgate man!
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You bet. It’s a longshot I land the job though. Would be a very nice bump in salary, but comes with a lot more responsibility. I think I’m just too much of a slacker for that. I mean work is maybe too easy for me and I get the highest evaluations, and I feel guilty that’s it’s too damn easy and I get bored sometimes.
January 18th, 2013 at 6:33 am
Very wise and hard-hitting words from silverandblackpride
I just have a bad feeling.
January 18th, 2013 at 6:36 am
Ease of work is very important.
I have a framed picture of some beach in New Zealand in my office with the tag line “Never get so busy making a living that you forget to make a life”.
Words to live by.
January 18th, 2013 at 6:37 am
I DUNNO,MAY HAVE TO GO TO OTHER SIDE OF COLISEUM TO TAILGATE.TO MANY OF U CRAZY PEOPLE ON 66TH AVE SIDE..
January 18th, 2013 at 6:37 am
Another food for thought article from RaiderNationTimes: http://raidernationtimes.com/article.php?id=9557
“Will Pryor and McFadden Ever Share a Backfield Together?”
January 18th, 2013 at 6:40 am
“Never get so busy making a living that you forget to make a life”.
Words to live by.
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amen.
January 18th, 2013 at 6:40 am
“Will Pryor and McFadden Ever Share a Backfield Together?”
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In training camp sure.
Regular season?? That’s up to McMytootsieshurt
January 18th, 2013 at 6:42 am
From that article…
It’s hard to ignore the fact that the NFL quarterback is starting to evolve. Now I know there is no replacement for guys like Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, and Drew Brees and I know the traditional pocket passer has been more dominant the last 10 thanks to rule changes that benefit the offense. I also know that you can no longer ignore the success of guys like Robert Griffin III, Russell Wilson, and Colin Kaepernick. You also have guys like Cam Newton, Michael Vick, and Jake Locker who can be an asset to a teams running game and passing game.The game is starting to change. Five years ago Vince Young led all quarterbacks in rushing and he was ranked 50th in the league in total rushing yards. In 2012 four quarterbacks ranked in the top 42 in total rushing yards, and three of them made the playoffs.
Four of the top five teams that led the league in rushing made the playoffs in 2012 and all four of them had a quarterback that ran for over 200 yards and carried the ball over 60 times. It appears that having a quarterback that runs the ball is becoming an effective weapon in the NFL. Teams with running quarterbacks become more of a threat when that quarterback is paired up with a good running back. Those four quarterbacks that rushed the ball over 60 times for over 200 yards in 2012, had a running back that was in the top ten in rushing.
January 18th, 2013 at 6:43 am
Ah yes, the calling card of hope for the 2012 Raider season.
“will Palmer and McFadden ever share a backfield together?”
Didn’t matter though. McOwwie got hurt again.
January 18th, 2013 at 6:44 am
Read-option, ground and pound and all these fancy running games work great in the regular season against inferior opponents. It allows you to limit mistakes and let your talent prevail.
In the postseason, you need to be able to duel with the best QB’s in the world. Can’t do that with the ground game.
January 18th, 2013 at 6:45 am
Very wise and hard-hitting words from silverandblackpride
I just have a bad feeling.
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Why the doom and gloom GG?
Reggie’s got this handled. Just napping is all. Wait for groundhog’s day and he will come out and see his shadow and give RaiderNation back the faith.
January 18th, 2013 at 6:48 am
Read-option, ground and pound and all these fancy running games work great in the regular season against inferior opponents. It allows you to limit mistakes and let your talent prevail.
In the postseason, you need to be able to duel with the best QB’s in the world. Can’t do that with the ground game.
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I still don’t see how the read option has anything to do with battling elite QB’s? If the offense is scoring points, and ground and pound is working, it actually puts less pressure on the defense and they are more rested, while the franchise QB’s get impatient waiting on the sidelines for their chance to retaliate.
January 18th, 2013 at 6:51 am
Well, there aren’t any examples of it working lately, deep in the postseason has it?
You go on a 11 play 80 yard TD drive, feel good, and Brady goes 6 plays 80 yards, up-tempo, in about 3 minutes.
They you have to try to do it all over again.
Eventually you get a holding call, or get stuffed, bring up a 3rd and 12, and you are toast.
January 18th, 2013 at 6:53 am
Guest123 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 6:48 am
Read-option, ground and pound and all these fancy running games work great in the regular season against inferior opponents. It allows you to limit mistakes and let your talent prevail.
In the postseason, you need to be able to duel with the best QB’s in the world. Can’t do that with the ground game.
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I still don’t see how the read option has anything to do with battling elite QB’s? If the offense is scoring points, and ground and pound is working, it actually puts less pressure on the defense and they are more rested, while the franchise QB’s get impatient waiting on the sidelines for their chance to retaliate.
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You are generally going up against really good defensive units and coaches that would snuff that out.
January 18th, 2013 at 6:54 am
it actually puts less pressure on the defense and they are more rested, while the franchise QB’s get impatient waiting on the sidelines for their chance to retaliate.
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I am sure there are some recent examples of this, but I can’t come up with many.
Jets beating the Colts a few years ago, but that always happens to Peyton.
January 18th, 2013 at 6:55 am
Mom&dad bought their first home in Clovis NM. I saw the deed last year in some old papers
deed = $4,832.71
January 18th, 2013 at 6:56 am
Up tempo defense can beat Brady, lol.
Defense shouldn’t have any reason to huddle.
January 18th, 2013 at 6:57 am
Last year the excuse was that it was too late to hire a good OC. What will be the excuse this year?
January 18th, 2013 at 6:57 am
The wait for news, any news from the Raiders on their coaching openings is stiffling.
Without discussing my line of work, I will say that you have to reflect a certain degree of confidence in what you do. I get asked a lot of tough questions that would make others sweat bullets. But as long as you have a plan and can communicate it effectively, most people will shrug at the issue and settle down. “he’s got a plan to fix this, sigh” is the response. I may have nothing in reality, but to them I have a plan.
Reggie has been brutally inept at communicating the plan of reshaping the organization after the recent firings. He doesn’t have to act yet, but he does need to clue in the masses on a front of his plan. It’s starting to rile a lot of us. It’s just bad management skills all around. In my not so humble opinion having learned the damage control PR skills on the fly.
January 18th, 2013 at 6:58 am
pancake special for mumbles…
January 18th, 2013 at 6:58 am
J,
Was talking about Brady going up tempo, and matching your long drawn out TD drive in 1/3 the time.
January 18th, 2013 at 6:59 am
I’m kinda warming up to Dee Millner.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:01 am
I know, JFB.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:01 am
Was talking about Brady going up tempo, and matching your long drawn out TD drive in 1/3 the time.
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If softee charmin ATL ends up playing Brady, it’s over before it even starts. But SF can put 2 good drives together and punch it in they can destroy Brady. That’s what happened against Rodgers. Give the Niners a 10 pt lead and watch the franchise QB’s melt. Niners playing comeback get toasted, but with a lead they are lethal.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:02 am
reggie doesnt have a plan…his only plan is to say he has a slow plan to cover his aszs…
January 18th, 2013 at 7:02 am
Mike Tice for O-line coach???
January 18th, 2013 at 7:02 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 6:37 am
I DUNNO,MAY HAVE TO GO TO OTHER SIDE OF COLISEUM TO TAILGATE.TO MANY OF U CRAZY PEOPLE ON 66TH AVE SIDE..
LOL
January 18th, 2013 at 7:03 am
Will Taiwan Jones be a CB or a RB the next time we see him?
Adams and Chekwa are the only corners I like.
I like Ross at S.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:03 am
But wait…Mike Tice? For what?
January 18th, 2013 at 7:05 am
719.hwnrdr Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 6:08 am
Funny…Browns hired Michael Lombardi as GM!
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At first I kind of hated that guy….but he has grown on my as a talking head…..but as a GM????? LMFAO Browns suck!
January 18th, 2013 at 7:06 am
There is so much to point out from the McKenzie interview.
Here’s just one….
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Q: Are you still talking to Norv Turner?
McKenzie: “No. I’m saying right from the beginning when we hit this thing running at the beginning. I specifically haven’t talked to Norv since…after he told me he was interested. So we move on.”
Q: He took the Cleveland job today…
McKenzie: “Yes, he took it today. But guys like Norv, Marc Trestman, we had our list down. But a lot of guys…there are other jobs out there. It’s like free agency. You wish that you could get certain guys, but sometimes you don’t always get certain guys, but you’ve got a list that you feel good about and that’s where we are now.”
January 18th, 2013 at 7:08 am
Give the Niners a 10 pt lead and watch the franchise QB’s melt.
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Did you watch the 49ers-Pats game a month ago?
They were up like 4 TD’s and Brady almost came back and won in 10 minutes.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:09 am
Man everyone could see Miles Burris had a tough rookie season, but I didn’t think it was this bad, pff looks at every snap played and came up with this:
“Taking over the weak-side position from Aaron Curry, the fourth-rounder started all 16 games as a rookie.
Burris graded out as the NFL’s least effective 4-3 outside linebacker in Pro Football Focus’ ratings.”
I know JFB was on him all year, looks like you were right buddy.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:09 am
Will Taiwan Jones be a CB or a RB the next time we see him?
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ST player only.
He will be a RB/CB like Jon Condo is a “LB”.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:09 am
761.
I can’t understand what McKenzie is saying there. It’s not lucid, not cogent, has no point of direction. Failure of communication on all levels.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:09 am
guest123 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 6:57 am
The wait for news, any news from the Raiders on their coaching openings is stiffling.
Without discussing my line of work, I will say that you have to reflect a certain degree of confidence in what you do. I get asked a lot of tough questions that would make others sweat bullets. But as long as you have a plan and can communicate it effectively, most people will shrug at the issue and settle down. “he’s got a plan to fix this, sigh” is the response. I may have nothing in reality, but to them I have a plan.
Reggie has been brutally inept at communicating the plan of reshaping the organization after the recent firings. He doesn’t have to act yet, but he does need to clue in the masses on a front of his plan. It’s starting to rile a lot of us. It’s just bad management skills all around. In my not so humble opinion having learned the damage control PR skills on the fly.
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Agree.
I hate how he always says, “Guys, we’re trying to build something here.”
January 18th, 2013 at 7:10 am
I liked Burris’ instincts, he was around the ball a lot.
He just missed an obscene amount of tackles. Easy tackles too, backup TE’s with no space type stuff.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:11 am
Maybe the plan is to find an OC who will be prepared to take over as interim midway through the season.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:11 am
Did you watch the 49ers-Pats game a month ago?
They were up like 4 TD’s and Brady almost came back and won in 10 minutes.
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Almost wins are still losses last that I checked. And the refs were cooking up some hometown action there for Vegas I have no doubt. Or at least tried.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:13 am
Come on G123, we are having a quality football convo, and then you interject foil-hat conspiracy theories.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:14 am
Well, this is most disconcerting…
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Q: Are you still talking to Norv Turner?
McKenzie: “No. I’m saying right from the beginning when we hit this thing running at the beginning. I specifically haven’t talked to Norv since…after he told me he was interested. So we move on.”
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Translation…
“Norv approached me and said he was interested in the OC job. I spoke with him briefly and just never got back to him. He moved on and was hired by the Browns. So we move on.
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Then…
Q: He took the Cleveland job today…
McKenzie: “Yes, he took it today. But guys like Norv, Marc Trestman, we had our list down. But a lot of guys…there are other jobs out there. It’s like free agency. You wish that you could get certain guys, but sometimes you don’t always get certain guys, but you’ve got a list that you feel good about and that’s where we are now.”
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Translation….
So, Norv had a desire to OC here, and I had a wish for Norv to OC here, but I did nothing about it, didn’t get back to him, he got hired elsewhere, I didn’t get someone I wanted because I sat on my hands.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:14 am
“Mike Brisiel had ankle surgery following the season.”
Broken ankle or not this guy has a lot to prove to this fan base before he gets any love in here!
January 18th, 2013 at 7:14 am
Getting the bbq ready…with Monday off, should get interesting!
January 18th, 2013 at 7:16 am
Well JFB, there is no doubt that the Niners intensity in the 4th qtr waned, and the Pats posed a furious comeback and almost came all the way back. But the refs were not kind to the visiting team. I think the Pats vs Niners Super Bowl coming up will be a classic. I’m already writing off BAL and ATL.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:16 am
765.guest123 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 7:09 am
761.
I can’t understand what McKenzie is saying there. It’s not lucid, not cogent, has no point of direction. Failure of communication on all levels.
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I almost threw up when I heard him speak at his first press conference. Then I came here and defended him because he was valedictorian of his HS class, so he must be smart right? Then I watched an espn special about concussions and their ability to affect a person’s intelligence, and that’s when I realized that maybe all of the years of playing in the NFL might have knocked the valedictorian right out of Reggie.
I hope he pulls it all together, but I am starting to have my doubts.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:18 am
I didn’t get someone I wanted because I sat on my hands.
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…because I was hungry and needed a second chicken sandwich at the IHOP and my cell phone battery died when Norv tried to call. sigh.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:18 am
Looks like Reggie wanted to see Tony Bergstrom on the field more and I agree, Carlisle, Brisiel and Barnes won’t be a part of the team’s future, Bergstrom should be and he could have used some seasoning to get ready for next season.
Q: Was it a disappointment at all that [Tony] Bergstrom couldn’t get on the field more?.
McKenzie: “No. I’m sure he would have liked to have played more, but the staff decided to go with the veterans and let them play…I’m not mad at Bergstrom, but I think he was definitely worthy of playing some.”
January 18th, 2013 at 7:20 am
lombardi has forgot more football than mckenzie will ever know…
January 18th, 2013 at 7:21 am
Maybe DA wants to hire someone from NEs staff????
Or Atlanta’s????
Take your time fellas. Get it right.
Have another short stack on me.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:23 am
burris has been a failure…been calling that all year..but noooo…reggie drsfts and finds players…gtfoh.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:25 am
My guess is mularkey for OC and Tice as OL and the bears ST coach if he got canned with the rest of them.
Mularkey= dirt knapp
Tice= ogre that failed as HC, OL, OC
January 18th, 2013 at 7:25 am
Another impression I get from the interview. The discussion on Te’o. It seems to me that Reggie was intending to draft him before the latest incident.
Personally, I’d be pretty disappointed if Reggie really did want to draft him before, let alone if he still wants to draft him after the smoke clears on Te’o.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:25 am
Burris was a 4th round pick right?
If he failed, so what? 4th round pick failures do not reflect poorly on a GM.
Failing on nearly all of your first round picks since 1990 is a fail….right Al?
January 18th, 2013 at 7:27 am
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Q: Are you still talking to Norv Turner?
McKenzie: “No. I’m saying right from the beginning when we hit this thing running at the beginning. I specifically haven’t talked to Norv since…after he told me he was interested. So we move on.”
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Is this quote true?
I thought Norv WAS NOT interested from the start.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:28 am
Are the personal attacks on the GM simply because he is not Al Davis?
The Norv thing needed translation?
Obviously DA and McKenzie didn’t want to hire the guy.
At least we can shoot down the Norv didn’t want to coach here theories, lol.
Yeah, yeah, Norvell. We’ll get back to you.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:28 am
Lets see,
Browns: Lombardi, Reid and Turner
Raiders: Mckenzie, Allen and nobody
Advantage: Browns
January 18th, 2013 at 7:29 am
problem is the 4th round failure was chisen to play ahead of curry…curry won the sd game by knocking out their tackle…burris will never have that kind of impact.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:30 am
lombardi has forgot more football than mckenzie will ever know…
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Stop it!
Are you suggesting we are asleep at the wheel because the Brownies beat us to Lombardo?????
January 18th, 2013 at 7:30 am
NFL execs don’t care about this Te’O thing.
It was a hoax on the media, a media of which all these GM’s can’t really stand anyways.
Al would have thought it was funny.
Teams are much more concerned with legal and drug actions, not media fabrications.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:30 am
Q: Are you still talking to Norv Turner?
McKenzie: “No. I’m saying right from the beginning when we hit this thing running at the beginning. I specifically haven’t talked to Norv since…after he told me he was interested. So we move on.”
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Is this quote true?
I thought Norv WAS NOT interested from the start.
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I don’t think so. Read it again and the only way it makes any sense is if you edi the sentence to read:
after he told me he wasn’t interested…so we move on.
I think Reggie’s mumbling is what causes the close captions to get a word wrong. Another example of failure to communicate.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:30 am
After reading his November interview I was very disappointed in Reggie. But wanted to see what he thought after end-of-season evaluations, what coaching hires he made etc. So reading this recent interview, I have just about made up my mind that Reggie as GM is a lost cause.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:31 am
Curry was garbage too, just more expensive garbage than Burris.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:31 am
Curry was hurt though…
January 18th, 2013 at 7:32 am
760.Dakota Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 7:05 am
719.hwnrdr Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 6:08 am
Funny…Browns hired Michael Lombardi as GM!
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At first I kind of hated that guy….but he has grown on my as a talking head…..but as a GM????? LMFAO Browns suck!
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I think it’s obvious the Browns are one of the “up and comer” teams with the new ownership of Jimmy Haslem.
They have a “franchise” RB in Trent Richardson and…..well….a good defense I guess.
Norv goes from Rivers to Weeden. Oh well.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:32 am
That LT that Curry “”knocked out” left the game the previous week with a concussion.
3 days later, short week, he got contacted on the first seirs and then retired.
Curry sucks, the 2nd worst defensive players I ever seen wear Silver and Black, behind Clarence Love.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:33 am
That is clearly a type on the Reggie quote.
Norv was not interested, so they moved on.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:33 am
No the quote is right.
Look at the follow up question. Reggie specifically says that Norv and Trestman were on his wish list. Now, Norv in the previous quote is said to have approached Reggie and said he’s interested.
So why didn’t Reggie interview or hire Norv? Because he sat on his hands. While all these other teams were out there rustling up interviews with candidates, Reggie was inactive.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:33 am
Curry sucks, the 2nd worst defensive players I ever seen wear Silver and Black, behind Clarence Love.
Wow, Clarence Love huh?
January 18th, 2013 at 7:33 am
reggie doesnt get a free pass…any gm that regresses the team for “new culture” should be criticized highly….
January 18th, 2013 at 7:34 am
We gave up two draft picks for Aaron Curry.
Horrendous trade.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:34 am
790,
Yeah, I thought it was WASN’T interested. I don’t know. Is there any actual video of this interview anywhere if I may ask?
January 18th, 2013 at 7:35 am
he only way it makes any sense is if you edi the sentence to read:
after he told me he wasn’t interested…so we move on.
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It makes perfect sense the way it is written.
Norv ran over to our locker begging Mark and McKenzie for a job. Interupted the Pryor interview, remember???
They haven’t talked to him since.
How is that hard to understand?
January 18th, 2013 at 7:35 am
After reading his November interview I was very disappointed in Reggie. But wanted to see what he thought after end-of-season evaluations, what coaching hires he made etc. So reading this recent interview, I have just about made up my mind that Reggie as GM is a lost cause.
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I’m not ready just yet to call Reggie a lost cause. But he needs someone to tell him to go back over his interviews and read them, look at them and proof them for sensibility. Is this the image he wants to project as the holder of the Raiders plan? He’s got some growing up to do to fill in those shoes.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:35 am
no i really think lombardi knows football…he has been a candidate for gm for some time know…reggie, i dont know man, he just seems to have a huge ego.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:36 am
Because….Allen is conducting interviews, going thru the details…as Reggie admits. So Allen was off doing the Senior Bowl and so nothing got down in rustling up interviews with Norv and others. They just sat back and were waiting till after the Senior Bowl.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:36 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 7:34 am
We gave up two draft picks for Aaron Curry.
Horrendous trade.
Yeah true…now we have no 5th because of him.
Yesterday everyone was flying high on the Pryor to Philly trade…anything came out of that?
January 18th, 2013 at 7:36 am
So why didn’t Reggie interview or hire Norv?
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Because he didn’t want him!!!!!
GEEEEEEEE ZUSSSS
January 18th, 2013 at 7:37 am
Any time last year a team needed to convert a 3rd down, they just ran some misdirection right at Curry, let him corkscrew himself into the ground without even being blocked, and picked up 15 of the easiest 3rd down yards you ever seen.
And then the penalties………
January 18th, 2013 at 7:37 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 7:34 am
We gave up two draft picks for Aaron Curry.
Horrendous trade.
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a future 5th rounder and a 7th rounder for a once top 4 overall pick? You call that horrendous? using your 20/20 hindsight goggles I guess.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:37 am
Burris made a huge jump in competition level, I’m certain he’s gonna get much better as soon as next year, just pointing out he had a tough rookie year.
Jeez relax guys.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:37 am
If Norv was NOT interested it makes sense.
I don’t know of many former HC’s of a team who come back to that SAME TEAM and then work as a coordinator.
I can’t even think of any examples off the top of my head.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:38 am
So, with HC positions all filled…if canned, does Lovie come in? And, not Mrs. Howell…lol
January 18th, 2013 at 7:39 am
I believe in Reggie, not sold on DA.
Have a good day fellas.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:39 am
You call that horrendous? using your 20/20 hindsight goggles I guess.
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It’s called reality man, no 20/20 googles.
We gave up two draft picks for a horrible player who didn’t even play 16 games for us.
Almost on par with the GS Warriors giving up a future 1st round pick for 20 games of Marcos Williams.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:40 am
I believe in Reggie, not sold on DA.
Have a good day fellas.
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Not sold on either one to be brutally honest. Have a good day Marley.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:40 am
Reggie/Allen…late once again. They’ll select someone they like FROM THE REMAINING FEW coaches left. All the ones they had at the top of their list gone because they sat on their hands waiting for the Senior Bowl to finish….and/or….none of them interested in working under Allen…..and/or….Allen didn’t want them because of the Garret/Cowboys reason — doesnt want someone threatening to take his job.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:40 am
gg i think you are spot in…reggie just isnt a gm…maybe a good scout but thats it…and i still doubt even that. He hasnt shown anything positive in making the team better nothing.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:41 am
810.Bob Marley Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 7:37 am
Burris made a huge jump in competition level, I’m certain he’s gonna get much better as soon as next year, just pointing out he had a tough rookie year.
Jeez relax guys.
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It’s hard to relax right now when so many things look so wrong about everything.
I wish there were more things about this regime to point to and say “See…look at that progress there”.
Sure, there are a few things we can point to and say it’s progress.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:41 am
Hire Ray Horton immediately….I dont care what coaching title he has….The man was the only reason Arizona won a game last year….Do it Big lip Tangerine shrimp!!
January 18th, 2013 at 7:41 am
J Hill Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 7:36 am
So why didn’t Reggie interview or hire Norv?
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Because he didn’t want him!!!!!
GEEEEEEEE ZUSSSS
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You’re neglecting the follow up question he answered, where Reggie admits Norv was at the top of his list along with Trestman.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:43 am
Reggie has been brutally inept at communicating the plan of reshaping the organization after the recent firings. He doesn’t have to act yet, but he does need to clue in the masses on a front of his plan. It’s starting to rile a lot of us. It’s just bad management skills all around. In my not so humble opinion having learned the damage control PR skills on the fly.
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Morning Guest,
Now I’m not a business man, but I catch your drift. My question is, when you had to answer tough questions, was it to your leadership or consumers? I have a feeling that the “Consumer / fans” are in the BOTTOM slot on their list of Organizational prioreties. I mean, we’re the furthest removed from the going’s on, in the facility; why include us? I mean a food company has R and D working vigorously on new products, and sales is on the horn constantly pushing contracts, personell shifting, and in the end, when they’ve agreed on a formula, get the contract, and start production, they say……..”Hey Consumers…TA’DAAAA…Look what we made.”
January 18th, 2013 at 7:43 am
Ray Horton? Interesting…
January 18th, 2013 at 7:43 am
I agree with you GG, in the wake of nothing no news from RM/DA and the coaching carousel getting all filled back with hourly/daily news around the league, and the Raiders remain silent. What the heck are we waiting for?
January 18th, 2013 at 7:44 am
Good Point Ghost!
January 18th, 2013 at 7:44 am
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 7:40 am
gg i think you are spot in…reggie just isnt a gm…maybe a good scout but thats it…and i still doubt even that. He hasnt shown anything positive in making the team better nothing.
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Thank-you. Sorry to others, but Reggie imo is thick as bricks.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:45 am
any time? curry played like two plays? lol
January 18th, 2013 at 7:46 am
Nice stuff from reg. I like how you added the coaches got fired because they sucked
January 18th, 2013 at 7:46 am
SUPERBOWL BOUND 2014! Wait…
January 18th, 2013 at 7:47 am
Well, Al did wait until Jan. 27th to hire Hue as his OC, and people want to build a statue for that guy, so there is hope, lol.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:48 am
at least regg did call a few guys
January 18th, 2013 at 7:48 am
any time? curry played like two plays? lol
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2011.
And in those two plays this year, he got two 15 yard penalties.
He is done, out of the league.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:48 am
Morning Guest,
Now I’m not a business man, but I catch your drift. My question is, when you had to answer tough questions, was it to your leadership or consumers? I have a feeling that the “Consumer / fans” are in the BOTTOM slot on their list of Organizational prioreties. I mean, we’re the furthest removed from the going’s on, in the facility; why include us?
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Moring Ghost79.
Why include the public? Because I tell you that the little 90 year old lady that sits in the town halls that asks the executives the tough questions has more power than big shot CEO’s. The public scrutinizes everything and if you act like you are above that scrutiny, that’s when you get axed from your job. I answer to higher ups, but I focus my message at the 90 year old retiree who needs things explained plainly. Then I let the big shots read my words. If you can’t connect with the common man, no matter how high you sit, you won’t sit there for long.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:48 am
guest123 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 7:43 am
I agree with you GG, in the wake of nothing no news from RM/DA and the coaching carousel getting all filled back with hourly/daily news around the league, and the Raiders remain silent. What the heck are we waiting for?
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Why the wait? Imo, another splendid miscalculation by Dumb and Dumber. Waiting for the end of Senior Bowl + Allen: “dont want a former HC i am afraid will take my job” + Reggie: “I’m mainly scouting letting Allen call the shots” + most of the coaches not even interested (but they had Norv express interest right away)…
January 18th, 2013 at 7:48 am
Curry’s pros: when the play is in front him he while get there and deliver the blow,rarely missed tackles when he running toward the play!!!
Curry’s cons: was a liability in space and had a thing for blasting opposing players on their way out of bounds!!!
Curry’s exit: to bad knees,the new regime wasn’t the one who made the trade for him,and the play of Miles B.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:50 am
Further evidence Norv was interested….
Texted Pryor post-game, then sought him out and praised him, then Pryor the next day when asked about it (watch the interview) even said he thought maybe Norv will be the OC.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:51 am
but thats my point…burriss’ didnt warrant currys departure, if you want to say because of injuries…ok, but stop giving burris a free pass….he was rated the worst olb as stated earlier…
January 18th, 2013 at 7:51 am
Another thing from the interview…
Reggie clearly emphasizes this “ten and then” thing.
Hang on, I’ll find the quote…
January 18th, 2013 at 7:52 am
who is doing our first draft choice survey this year? raiderrockstar?
January 18th, 2013 at 7:52 am
Thanks for explaining Guest, Happy Friday….And you too Hwnrdr…I’m in and out of the blog at some point everyday. some days I don’t say SH*T cause there’s just too much prick waiving, but I enjoy what you guys bring in here.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:52 am
i remember that gg, he did say that…reggie slept thru it.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:52 am
Side note:if Curry was used as a blitzer the way they were using wheeler in the latter part of the season,he may have still been around,because I’m sure if it was Curry who put that hit on Matt Ryan in that Atl game when Tyvon Branch caught that pop fly int instead of Wheeler,Atl may not be in the title game!!!
January 18th, 2013 at 7:54 am
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 7:51 am
but thats my point…burriss’ didnt warrant currys departure, if you want to say because of injuries…ok, but stop giving burris a free pass….he was rated the worst olb as stated earlier…
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January 18th, 2013 at 7:56 am
I realize a 5th and 7th is not too much in the grand scheme of things.
However, the draft is like sales calls, a numbers game. You got to get through all those “no’s” to get to the next “yes”.
Two less draft picks, is two less bullets to fire on potentially getting an NFL level starter.
Of which Aaron Curry, was not.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:56 am
REALLIONAIREB Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 7:52 am
Side note:if Curry was used as a blitzer the way they were using wheeler in the latter part of the season,he may have still been around,because I’m sure if it was Curry who put that hit on Matt Ryan in that Atl game when Tyvon Branch caught that pop fly int instead of Wheeler,Atl may not be in the title game!!!
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I dunno man. Wheeler layed some slobber-knockers on QB’s last year. I think he was our best pressure man as it pertains to knockdowns and hurries. Remember how he knocked out Goodson at training camp? He’s left QB’s on the ground wincing in pain.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:57 am
“Former Jacksonville quarterbacks coach Greg Olson has also been reported as a candidate.The Raiders also will hire a special teams coordinator, a linebackers coach and an offensive line coach.”
Can I just say ummm “NO” to Greg Freakin Olson?! This is what pi$$es me off about this team. We are just going to hire somebody to hire somebody…If were gonna do that then just KEEP SAUNDERS for F’s sake! Allen is going to replace Knapp with even more CRAPP–Just the fact that he hired Knapp in the first place tells you he wouldn’t know a good Offensive coordinator unless he was on the Other Sideline shredding his defense..Then we get to these doozies..
Hiring “A” special teams coordinator, “A” linebackers coach and “A” (n) offensive line coach.”–ie–just another shoe filler-Noone of any merit who have probably never done the job before, OR, someone who was Sh!itcanned from their other position..Here is how this works as most of you are painfully aware..
Guys who will come here for say to coach linebackers are going to be walking into a PROMOTION–its not going to be a lateral move–so they are going to be going from say ‘assistant’ defensive line coach to the promotion of coaching linebackers for the Raiders..and so on and so forth with the rest of these other position coaching vacancies..Its not like were going to get some fired Offensive Coordinator to coach up our Special Teams Units–
Its not like were going to get some fired head coach to be our O.C–
Its not like we would fire Tarver in order to Hire Marinelli (an OBVIOUS FREAKIN UPGRADE)–
No, coaches use the RAIDERS to UPGRADE their resumes..
Expect run of the mill retreads or green horns at ever single one of our coaching vacancies…Ugh this team.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:57 am
ok, but stop giving burris a free pass….he was rated the worst olb as stated earlier…
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You talking to me?
LOL….I have been probably the harshest critic of Burris on here.
I never seen someone miss so many tackles.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:58 am
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 7:51 am
but thats my point…burriss’ didnt warrant currys departure, if you want to say because of injuries…ok, but stop giving burris a free pass….he was rated the worst olb as stated earlier…
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So you telling me you think the play of Miles B. had nothing to do with the decision to cut Curry? I mean Miles played well in the 1st half of the season it was after Curry was gone that Miles begin to get exposé!!!
January 18th, 2013 at 7:58 am
McKenzie: “I’m looking for the future. We’re trying to build something here. And with building, you can’t mortgage the future in doing that. So we’re trying to lay down a good foundation, get the core players that we’ve seen can build this team the right way and make good sound decisions, be it financial, the personnel, coaching, whatever it is. You see the mistake, correct it. That’s the only way you’re going to get better. And that’s kind of our philosophy. We’re not trying to hurry up to win one or two games and mortgage the possibility of winning 10 more, you know what I’m saying? We’re just going to build it the right way, make good sound decisions.”
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Specifically that last bit…”we’re not trying to hurry up and win a few more games, we’re trying to win ten more”
That clearly illustrates Reggie is looking at a very slow rebuild, take 3 or 4 or 5 years until there’s this supposed new culture in place where from then on the team starts winning 10 games a year.
But this is the Not For Long. GMs/HCs can come in and turn things around immediately. That’s the pace of the rat-race now. Not 5 year rebuilds. Reggie wont have a job, the fans wont be laboring thru more 4 win seasons.
Also, as someone posted very well last night…we were 8-8 the last two seasons, we weren’t far at all from maintaining that .500 type ‘culture’ for another 2-3 years or finding the answers to reaching those 10 win seasons.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:59 am
Aaron Curry resume:
Massive draft flop, waived by his team that drafted him quicker than Jamarcus Russell and Ryan Leaf were, started for one of the worst defensive teams in NFL history, 2nd most penalties on said horrible defensive team, waived and now out of the NFL.
January 18th, 2013 at 7:59 am
I really hope we trade Pryor to Philly for foles then he could learn under Palmer Pryor is a running qb first passer second he will never make it in this league
January 18th, 2013 at 8:00 am
Q: Do you have less of those core players than maybe you thought you were going to have going into year two or was there no way to know as you move forward?
McKenzie: “When you evaluate like last year during the off-season, of course you wish you had more of the core players, but no, there’s no way knowing going in, but at the end of the season, you evaluate what you have and you’re hopeful that the ones that you thought were going to be good are good and you want the players to continue to get better and your veteran players, you want them to continue to be productive. We have a ways to go. We’re not there yet by any stretch.”
January 18th, 2013 at 8:00 am
Watching gasol play pf gives me the scuttlebutt.
Or maybe it was the taco bell….
January 18th, 2013 at 8:02 am
We have a ways to go, we’re not there by any stretch = 5 year rebuild Reggie in slow-motion.
Let’s not forget Joey Clinksales is his main man too. Shudder.
January 18th, 2013 at 8:03 am
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So you telling me you think the play of Miles B. had nothing to do with the decision to cut Curry? I mean Miles played well in the 1st half of the season it was after Curry was gone that Miles begin to get exposé!!!
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You know, I wonder…….. Most rookies are susceptable to the “ROOKIE WALL” that usually arrives about 3/4 of the way through the season right? Well, remember, Miles wasn’t SLATED to be our starter…. So he played EVERY SNAP of EVERY Preseason game to get him the most experience as possible. That dude played damn near 22 full freakin games this year. Bet he single handedly had more playing time than anybody else on the team…Garunteed. A drop-off is expected.
January 18th, 2013 at 8:04 am
Who’s the new OC?
January 18th, 2013 at 8:04 am
Reggie wanted Te’o imo after reading this, and may still want him…
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Q: Speaking of the draft, I’m curious what your thoughts are on Manti Te’o at this point. We don’t know obviously whether he was part of this hoax or if he was just a dupe of it, but how much does it diminish him in the eyes of the NFL?
McKenzie: “The one thing I can say, I haven’t been reading or been up to date with all this stuff that’s going on, I was traveling yesterday and I got so many texts and emails about, ‘what in the world?’ So I decided to let this thing settle down and then try to figure out what happened. What is this all about? I really don’t know the gist of what’s going on with Manti, but apparently it’s something huge because it’s not only because it’s the sports world, but it’s news in general. That’s a lot of stuff that’s going on there. I’m sure because the enormity of what’s going on, he’s got to answer some questions. So depends on how it comes out.”
Q: Before it happened, did you regard him as a top-10 pick?
McKenzie: “Yeah, the guy, the players, top-10 pick, top-15, top-20, or I don’t know, but we liked him as a player. We’ll see. It’s a shame that all this media attention that’s gone to him in regards to this incident or whatever. It’ll be interesting to see what happens through it all.”
Q: Regardless of what happens when a player does get involved in headlines like that, does it make you not want to take a chance sometimes on that?
McKenzie: “It makes you go and get all the answers – cross your ‘T’s’ and dot your ‘I’s’ and make sure with any player you’ve got to know what you’re getting from a character standpoint. Other than his ability, his talents, try to get to know the guy. So yes, it’s going to weigh in heavily.”
January 18th, 2013 at 8:04 am
to be fair they put a lot on burris but a tackle is a tackle, the guy gets paid to make them…he missed most. not a keeper at lb.
mike is right i have a feeling they will hire someone just to hire…mike freaking mularkey? the guy was relieved of play calling duties like knapp before! i would rather roll with saunders…
January 18th, 2013 at 8:04 am
Theghostronin79 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 7:56 am
REALLIONAIREB Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 7:52 am
Side note:if Curry was used as a blitzer the way they were using wheeler in the latter part of the season,he may have still been around,because I’m sure if it was Curry who put that hit on Matt Ryan in that Atl game when Tyvon Branch caught that pop fly int instead of Wheeler,Atl may not be in the title game!!!
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I dunno man. Wheeler layed some slobber-knockers on QB’s last year. I think he was our best pressure man as it pertains to knockdowns and hurries. Remember how he knocked out Goodson at training camp? He’s left QB’s on the ground wincing in pain.
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True Wheeler was out there hitting everything that moved(Which is why I give him the nickname Taz as in TazManianDevil) but he is a under size LB now we seen what Curry did to that 300lb SD LT and he was looking right at Curry so what do you think he would have done to Matt Ryan on a free run at the QB?
January 18th, 2013 at 8:05 am
Cant believe Norv found the Brownstains OC job more appealing than the Raiders.
Sad sign right there.
January 18th, 2013 at 8:05 am
I honestly have no idea what Reggie is saying here in response…
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Q: There’s been some reports of a potential Raiders executive being hired, whether that’s going to happen or not, I don’t know, but like a team president or along those lines. Is it your understanding that regardless of what’s hired in terms of the front office that your job is as you got it last year unchanged in terms of going ahead?
McKenzie: “You know with this whole position, that’s a Mark Davis deal and like I said, I don’t want to give any leeway or his line of thinking on that. Even if it’s regards to any lead in the NFL to our way of thinking, I don’t want to divulge any information in that regard. I’ll let Mark answer those questions.”
January 18th, 2013 at 8:05 am
2 under-the-radar LB’s that are well thought of high-motor -productive guys….Kieth Pough and Mike Catapano….2-3 day picks but would love to somehow land guys like this…..
January 18th, 2013 at 8:06 am
As soon as I heard that Chicago wasn’t bringing back Mike Tice I immediately thought he might be coming to Oakland.
He did interview for the HC last yr.
Don’t be surprised if it ends up being Tice for OC.
January 18th, 2013 at 8:07 am
True Wheeler was out there hitting everything that moved(Which is why I give him the nickname Taz as in TazManianDevil) but he is a under size LB now we seen what Curry did to that 300lb SD LT and he was looking right at Curry so what do you think he would have done to Matt Ryan on a free run at the QB?
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Oh, don’t get me wrong…I loved how Curry hit people into next week, I just wanted to give my props to Wheeler.
January 18th, 2013 at 8:07 am
That clearly illustrates Reggie is looking at a very slow rebuild, take 3 or 4 or 5 years until there’s this supposed new culture in place where from then on the team starts winning 10 games a year.
But this is the Not For Long. GMs/HCs can come in and turn things around immediately. That’s the pace of the rat-race now. Not 5 year rebuilds. Reggie wont have a job, the fans wont be laboring thru more 4 win seasons.
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yeah, I don’t get what Reggie is thinking here. the league is on a escalating pace of turnover, especially coaches and GM’s. Franchise QB’s drafted in the first round are either getting their teams to the playoffs in the first or second year, or they are written off as busts by year 4. It’s not a patient league. I don’t understand how Reggie thinks he can bide time and wait for it to materialize like a dark piece of coal to a diamond. NFL is not patient and fans will call for Reggie’s head if we repeat another 4-12 or worse.
January 18th, 2013 at 8:07 am
This is exactly what I’ve been bìtching about all season. Reggie doesn’t seem to know how to rebuild a team. If you don’t want a quick fix then fire sale the team. strip it down completely.. guys like Carson and Dmc are only going to win a game or 2 extra a year for us and blow our draft position again..
January 18th, 2013 at 8:07 am
When it’s all said and done we will find out Reggie was too busy pretending to be Te’o’s girlfriend and didn’t have time to hire an OC.
January 18th, 2013 at 8:08 am
Trade back and look for guys like this…..
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/blog/rob-rang/21570428/shrine-game-practice-risers
January 18th, 2013 at 8:08 am
Trying to save face, not admit mistake, or too proud and vain to acknowledge error…
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Q: How do you assess Dennis’ first year, rookie season?
McKenzie: “I thought what he did with his team, trying to create a culture in that locker room and get those players to believe that we’re making a change here, we try to do this thing the right way in the way we practice, the way we approach games, and I thought he did a really good job getting these players to buy into what we’re doing. Talking to these players, players are looking forward to getting back and that’s what it’s all about. You want a good response to the head coach, to how he’s leading the team and how they follow him. I was very pleased by the way he led the team and, to be honest, I’m proud in the way he identified the issues and attacked it. He didn’t just continue to, ‘okay we’re going to continue to run this offense and make it work or we’re going to continue to keep this guy or keep this guy.’ He evaluated it; he stood up and said, ‘okay, we’re going to make a change,’ and did that. I like the way he led this team, the way the defense played especially at the end. It was encouraging. I see much better things in the future. I mean, he’s a rookie coach just like I’m a rookie GM. But for a rookie coach, I like the way he led this team.”
January 18th, 2013 at 8:08 am
Aaron Curry resume:
Massive draft flop, waived by his team that drafted him quicker than Jamarcus Russell and Ryan Leaf were, started for one of the worst defensive teams in NFL history, 2nd most penalties on said horrible defensive team, waived and now out of the NFL.
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JFB, you need to go ahead and add this info to his WIKI page.
January 18th, 2013 at 8:10 am
Theghostronin79 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 8:07 am
True Wheeler was out there hitting everything that moved(Which is why I give him the nickname Taz as in TazManianDevil) but he is a under size LB now we seen what Curry did to that 300lb SD LT and he was looking right at Curry so what do you think he would have done to Matt Ryan on a free run at the QB?
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Oh, don’t get me wrong…I loved how Curry hit people into next week, I just wanted to give my props to Wheeler.
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He deserves it brother… OhhhNoooDoubt
Hope he still here next season out there playing like his hair is on fire!!!!
Reggie Mac I’m looking at you buddy(GetItDone)
January 18th, 2013 at 8:10 am
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/NFP-Reviews-The-East-West-Shrine-Game-Practices.html
January 18th, 2013 at 8:13 am
i wonder how much he liked DA choice of oc in his first year?
January 18th, 2013 at 8:13 am
And I definitely want this kid…..Screw Jacoby”I live on the PUP list” Ford….
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/eye-on-college-football/21569691/gamecock-wr-ace-sanders-declares-for-draft-
January 18th, 2013 at 8:13 am
It might be saunders at this rate
January 18th, 2013 at 8:15 am
Hope he still here next season out there playing like his hair is on fire!!!!
Reggie Mac I’m looking at you buddy(GetItDone)
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Yup, same here man…
January 18th, 2013 at 8:15 am
Theghostronin79 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 8:03 am
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So you telling me you think the play of Miles B. had nothing to do with the decision to cut Curry? I mean Miles played well in the 1st half of the season it was after Curry was gone that Miles begin to get exposé!!!
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You know, I wonder…….. Most rookies are susceptable to the “ROOKIE WALL” that usually arrives about 3/4 of the way through the season right? Well, remember, Miles wasn’t SLATED to be our starter…. So he played EVERY SNAP of EVERY Preseason game to get him the most experience as possible. That dude played damn near 22 full freakin games this year. Bet he single handedly had more playing time than anybody else on the team…Garunteed. A drop-off is expected.
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The drop of in play wasn’t what we were debating it was some here believe that Miles’s play had nothing to do with Curry being released!!!
January 18th, 2013 at 8:15 am
864.guest123 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 8:07 am
That clearly illustrates Reggie is looking at a very slow rebuild, take 3 or 4 or 5 years until there’s this supposed new culture in place where from then on the team starts winning 10 games a year.
But this is the Not For Long. GMs/HCs can come in and turn things around immediately. That’s the pace of the rat-race now. Not 5 year rebuilds. Reggie wont have a job, the fans wont be laboring thru more 4 win seasons.
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yeah, I don’t get what Reggie is thinking here. the league is on a escalating pace of turnover, especially coaches and GM’s. Franchise QB’s drafted in the first round are either getting their teams to the playoffs in the first or second year, or they are written off as busts by year 4. It’s not a patient league. I don’t understand how Reggie thinks he can bide time and wait for it to materialize like a dark piece of coal to a diamond. NFL is not patient and fans will call for Reggie’s head if we repeat another 4-12 or worse.
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I’ll add that Mark Davis (love him or hate him) is not a super patient sort of guy.
When he’s reaming out the HC a little over midway thru the season and telling him “it’s NOT good enough” then I don’t think he’s on board with the “Ten and Then” plan of success.
Mark is worried about getting a new stadium, or selling the team to Russian mobsters and moving to LA or whatever he’s doing. I don’t think the whole “worst team in the NFL” thing is working for him.
January 18th, 2013 at 8:18 am
imo OC will be a former HC that Allen doesn’t fear replacing him (Mularkey) or yet again a rookie coordinator (Hamilton), or someone horrid like Olson.
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Q: Do you think you’ll have answers before the Senior Bowl?
McKenzie: “They’re winding down right now. All of them, no. But we’re trying to wrap them all up within in a few days, so we’ll see how it goes.”
Q: In terms of releasing information, are you going to wait until you have them all?
McKenzie: “Unless it’s one that’s further along, we may do a majority of them at one time, but we would like to just get them all done at once.”
Q: How involved are you in those interviews or is it mostly [Head Coach] Dennis [Allen]?
McKenzie: “We’re both involved and when you get down to the nitty-gritty of it, it’s Dennis, especially when you talk particulars, but we’re both involved.”
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January 18th, 2013 at 8:19 am
im not saying burris’ play had nothing to do with it…i think the fact that reggie picked him had more to do with it…
January 18th, 2013 at 8:20 am
BOKNOWS Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 8:13 am
And I definitely want this kid…..Screw Jacoby”I live on the PUP list” Ford….
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/eye-on-college-football/21569691/gamecock-wr-ace-sanders-declares-for-draft-
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He should play RB, he reminds me of the great Barry
January 18th, 2013 at 8:21 am
The drop of in play wasn’t what we were debating it was some here believe that Miles’s play had nothing to do with Curry being released!!!
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Oh, gotcha
January 18th, 2013 at 8:21 am
i hope mark has some sense in him…empty stadiums for years cant be a good thing…
January 18th, 2013 at 8:23 am
Mark Davis inherited a valuable piece of property and it’s value depends on Reggie Mck’s success. I don’t think he really cares about the wins/losses. But the empty seats in the stands will get his attention. The dwindling game day reciepts will give him ulcers. That daily operating budget will wear on him. It’s like anything in business, you look to sell if you have too many bad quarters. But you don’t want to sell into a firesell category. At the very least you want to prop up the brand name prior to bailing. If Mark got a decent offer I guarantee you he’d bail out of the entire thing and cash out. He’s got nothing personal at stake, it was his daddy’s team. Never really his. He’s just a caretaker for what’s next. Big shot owner that will take the team to LA.
January 18th, 2013 at 8:24 am
glad to hear Briesl was hurt all year caus he looked like Dookie..
January 18th, 2013 at 8:24 am
you might be right guest…i hope not but you might…
January 18th, 2013 at 8:26 am
bradley sounds like acoach in jacksonville..”.we got whoa is me DA”
January 18th, 2013 at 8:27 am
I’ve heard so much about “Wait till Al is gone and things will get better” in the past. I don’t know how much our image has improved since he’s passed. It seems to have gotten worse as far as esteem around the league.
We’re still talking about how “nobody worth anything wants to come here”, and how “what big name FA will want to come to this mess”.
The horrible season is one thing, but I thought the whole “New Era of Excellence” was supposed to bring with it a change in the perception around the league.
I’m not hearing from the pundits “Well you see what their building over in Oakland and any young player or aspiring coach will want to be a part of that. They’re definitely on the right track”.
Maybe you guys are hearing that, I don’t know.
January 18th, 2013 at 8:28 am
GG Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 7:06 am
There is so much to point out from the McKenzie interview.
Here’s just one….
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Q: Are you still talking to Norv Turner?
McKenzie: “No. I’m saying right from the beginning when we hit this thing running at the beginning. I specifically haven’t talked to Norv since…after he told me he was interested. So we move on.”
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Wait a minute…Norv TOLD McKenzie that he WAS interested?
And he hasn’t talked to him since?
That means he’s leaving it up to Allen?
If that’s the case, and Norv signed with Cleveland, then McKenzie and Allen need to come up with an OC who is a whole lot better or at least equal to Norv.
January 18th, 2013 at 8:31 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 2:41 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 2:39 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 2:34 pm
I can see Rob Ryan becoming the Packers DC.
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Already got the St. Louis job.
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Check again my friend.
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Come on Visor it has been way over 5 minutes – he must have a job somewhere.
January 18th, 2013 at 8:31 am
I’m not hearing from the pundits “Well you see what their building over in Oakland and any young player or aspiring coach will want to be a part of that. They’re definitely on the right track”.
Maybe you guys are hearing that, I don’t know.
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Checking in from Tampa, FL. The pundits here either hold back giggles when talking about the Raiders, or get bored within 10 seconds and move on. They seem to be less relevant or even hated than before. They have become the KC Royals football team.
January 18th, 2013 at 8:32 am
Come on Visor it has been way over 5 minutes – he must have a job somewhere.
BUWHAHAHAHAAHHA!
January 18th, 2013 at 8:33 am
Agree, England. The OC hire better best Norv or they look like fools yet again.
January 18th, 2013 at 8:34 am
DJ, 887. 10 and THEN
January 18th, 2013 at 8:34 am
883,
I thought that until he did the lockerroom presser where he apologized to the fans and said he “was pizzed”, and then when he reamed DA out on the plane back from Cincy.
He seems authentically affected by the wins and losses.
Maybe becuz of what u said…it affects the “brand” negatively when you are considered one of the worst in the league.
January 18th, 2013 at 8:35 am
Unfortunately, I can envision Guests scenario.
Owning the Raiders wears on Mark Davis, losing money, frustrated with Reggie/Allen, he packs it in and team moves to LA with a new corporate owner.
January 18th, 2013 at 8:35 am
Bears GM Phil Emery said Marc Trestman presented a 13-month schedule with every hour accounted for. Now that’s how you get to be a head coach. I wonder if DA charts his hours like Trestman?
January 18th, 2013 at 8:36 am
893.The Big Banana Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 8:34 am
DJ, 887. 10 and THEN
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You’re right. I lost my head there for a minute.
January 18th, 2013 at 8:37 am
896, wow. Doubtful DA is that organized
January 18th, 2013 at 8:38 am
895.GG Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 8:35 am
Unfortunately, I can envision Guests scenario.
Owning the Raiders wears on Mark Davis, losing money, frustrated with Reggie/Allen, he packs it in and team moves to LA with a new corporate owner.
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As much as the Bay Area folk hate to hear it, would that move be the best one for the future of the Raiders?
I’m not sayin’ it is, just askin.
January 18th, 2013 at 8:39 am
. If Mark got a decent offer I guarantee you he’d bail out of the entire thing and cash out. He’s got nothing personal at stake, it was his daddy’s team. Never really his. He’s just a caretaker for what’s next. Big shot owner that will take the team to LA.
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That’s one way to look at it. But that’s hard for me to see it so black and white. I mean, I was born on an Air Force Base, Grew up there, going to the commissary where everybody was shopping in camo’ fatigues….It’s no surprise I joined the Marine Corps when I graduated high school. The military is special to me and there’s a certain comfort level involved in that lifestyle.
Mark Grew up on the sidelines, at training camp; following players around probably in awe of them. HE, was their biggest fan. I’m sure his business sense is wearing on him, but I’d argue that he IS emotionally involved in this team. It’s been part of his life for ALL of his life. Now his daddy’s gone, it’s a connection to his Old Man. Know what I’m sayin?
January 18th, 2013 at 8:40 am
DJ Johnny Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 8:38 am
895.GG Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 8:35 am
Unfortunately, I can envision Guests scenario.
Owning the Raiders wears on Mark Davis, losing money, frustrated with Reggie/Allen, he packs it in and team moves to LA with a new corporate owner.
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As much as the Bay Area folk hate to hear it, would that move be the best one for the future of the Raiders?
I’m not sayin’ it is, just askin.
Unfortunately, if he does that, there will be no more Bay Area fans, except the truly die hards!
January 18th, 2013 at 8:41 am
Good Post, Ghost! And I’d like to believe that his success with The Raiders will bring him closer to dad!
January 18th, 2013 at 8:44 am
Bears already filled out 2 more spots on their coaching staff. Matt Cavanaugh QB coach and
Skip Peete RB coach.
All the while Reggie is ordering up another short stack.
January 18th, 2013 at 8:45 am
#900 – I would have to and WANT to believe that is the case…
I just hope Reggie’s GM skills far surpass his speaking skills (or lack-thereof)!! Dude struggles to complete sentences and thoughts…
January 18th, 2013 at 8:46 am
i just dont understand how people can defend reggie when he is trying to make this team vanilla….i hope that mark has some raider pride in him…when pubdits in tb are making fun if the raiders wherever they may be it pisses me off…i enjoyed when al made them eat crow…
January 18th, 2013 at 8:46 am
Chargers add Frank Reich to offensive staff
Posted by Darin Gantt on January 18, 2013, 11:42 AM EST
ReichCard
The Chargers know that if they’re going to have to improve, they’re going to have to get Philip Rivers back on track.
They continue to hire solid offensive coaches around him, with Sports Illustrated’s Peter King reporting they’re hiring Frank Reich as quarterbacks coach.
Reich was on new Chargers offensive coordinator Ken Whisenhunt’s staff in Arizona, and along with new Chargers head coach Mike McCoy, gives Rivers three bright minds to work with.
It might also spark Rivers’ recently dormant ability to lead come-from-behind situations, something Reich knows a little about since he led the biggest comeback in playoff history for the Bills against the Oilers in the 20 years ago.
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Meanwhile, at Alameda…crickets are chirping.
January 18th, 2013 at 8:47 am
New Browns VP of player personnel Michael Lombardi called the selection of Brandon Weeden at No. 22 overall last year a “panicked disaster.”
Lombardi also told a Cleveland radio station in September that Colt McCoy gives the team a better chance to win. On the flip side, Weeden’s arm strength is better suited to new coach Rob Chudzinski’s vertical attack. One source told ESPN Cleveland that team president Joe Banner assured McCoy he is still in the team’s plans, though likely not as the starter. We’ve seen no evidence that Weeden has been given similar assurance.
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Lombardi already stirring the pot in Cleveland. Calling their franchise QB pick from last year a “panicked disaster”
January 18th, 2013 at 8:47 am
Thanks Hawai’ian Raider……Me too.
January 18th, 2013 at 8:48 am
A lot of people here criticize Reggie McKenzie and everyone is entitled to their opinion.
While McKenzie is being labeled incompetent here by the masses, the true failure is Mark Davis.
He hired Reggie McKenzie and Davis has allowed McKenzie to maintain his position as GM.
Sure, he can be ‘pissed’ off and ‘distraught’ with the ‘regression’. But, when it boils down to it, he has the power to stop being ‘pissed’ and ‘distraught’ with the ‘regression’.
Yet, he chooses not to do so.
I am longing for the day the Oakland Raiders are successful. And I will roll with McKenzie and DA.
Why?
Because the owner of the team apparently believes in those two gentlemen. And since I have no power to change the structure at Raiders HQ in Alameda, I’ve got to roll with Mark’s decisions to keep the current staff around.
As McKenzie continues to fail — as many here believe he has — there is only one man to truly blame — the owner.
January 18th, 2013 at 8:49 am
Everything just seems to be so “la di da” in regard to this coaching search. Hearing Reggie talk about it, it’s like an after thought. “Yeah..we’re working on that coaching thing, I think Dennis is working on it or something”.
January 18th, 2013 at 8:50 am
You guys never cease to amaze me.
LOL.
January 18th, 2013 at 8:52 am
GG Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 8:46 am
Chargers add Frank Reich to offensive staff
Posted by Darin Gantt on January 18, 2013, 11:42 AM EST
ReichCard
The Chargers know that if they’re going to have to improve, they’re going to have to get Philip Rivers back on track.
They continue to hire solid offensive coaches around him, with Sports Illustrated’s Peter King reporting they’re hiring Frank Reich as quarterbacks coach.
Reich was on new Chargers offensive coordinator Ken Whisenhunt’s staff in Arizona, and along with new Chargers head coach Mike McCoy, gives Rivers three bright minds to work with.
It might also spark Rivers’ recently dormant ability to lead come-from-behind situations, something Reich knows a little about since he led the biggest comeback in playoff history for the Bills against the Oilers in the 20 years ago.
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Meanwhile, at Alameda…crickets are chirping.
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What are you talking about? Mike Tice is not an intriguing name?
John DeFilippo?
Nick Holz?
Mark Hutson?
January 18th, 2013 at 8:52 am
Interesting stats from Pro Football Focus about RB’s “actual YPC” (tho I dont agree with them at all in looking at that, by taking away all 15+ yard runs.
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/01/18/signature-stats-pulse-rate/
January 18th, 2013 at 8:52 am
other teams continue to hire…reggie at the ihop, DA at the stationary store looking for sharpies…
January 18th, 2013 at 8:53 am
Meanwhile…the son of the creator of Barney was arrested this morning for murder!
January 18th, 2013 at 8:53 am
Colts
Raiders
Jaguars
Cardinals
Jets
5 teams need an OC.
Hue Jackson
Cam Cameron
Mike Mularkey
Marty Mornhinweg
Pep Hamilton
Joe Lombardi
Geep Chryst
Edgar Bennett
Mike Martz
Greg Olson
January 18th, 2013 at 8:54 am
Jackasspuria: I give Reggie a ‘pass’ for 2012 and 2013 given that he came into an almost hopeless situation (cap strapped/lack of draft picks). But DA gets no pass after 2013 IMO. If DA falters to gel what coaching staff and talent can be assembled and Reggie doesnt move on from him in 2014, then Reggies pass expires too…
January 18th, 2013 at 8:54 am
r8eray Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 8:52 am
GG Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 8:46 am
Chargers add Frank Reich to offensive staff
Posted by Darin Gantt on January 18, 2013, 11:42 AM EST
ReichCard
The Chargers know that if they’re going to have to improve, they’re going to have to get Philip Rivers back on track.
They continue to hire solid offensive coaches around him, with Sports Illustrated’s Peter King reporting they’re hiring Frank Reich as quarterbacks coach.
Reich was on new Chargers offensive coordinator Ken Whisenhunt’s staff in Arizona, and along with new Chargers head coach Mike McCoy, gives Rivers three bright minds to work with.
It might also spark Rivers’ recently dormant ability to lead come-from-behind situations, something Reich knows a little about since he led the biggest comeback in playoff history for the Bills against the Oilers in the 20 years ago.
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Meanwhile, at Alameda…crickets are chirping.
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What are you talking about? Mike Tice is not an intriguing name?
John DeFilippo?
Nick Holz?
Mark Hutson?
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These are intriguing names from Raider Nation’s very good think-tank. We’re talking Reggie and Allen tho. Don’t be surprised if it ends up being Greg Olson.
January 18th, 2013 at 8:55 am
In reality, 4 teams need a OC.
Arians has said he will hire one, but he will call the plays himself.
January 18th, 2013 at 8:55 am
From ProFootballTalk – Chip Kelly says he doesn’t need a mobile quarterback
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/18/chip-kelly-says-he-doesnt-need-a-mobile-quarterback/
Yeah Chip, I believe that as much as I believed you were actually going to stay at Oregon…
January 18th, 2013 at 8:55 am
Mike Tice is an OL coach. Better not get an OC job again.
January 18th, 2013 at 8:56 am
mark is to blame as well..i hope that he realizes it before long…one way is to get the fans to show a message…supporting a losing coach and gm is not the way that message gets sent.
January 18th, 2013 at 8:56 am
You dont know why the Eagles hired Kelly if you think he’s tied to a certain type of QB or offense.
January 18th, 2013 at 8:56 am
Raider-In-PA
I too am giving Reggie McKenzie the benefit of the doubt because of what he came into when he got the Raiders’ GM job.
But the masses here love to pin this whole thing on Machete McKenzie.
True blame lies with Mark Davis for this and I wanted to make sure the masses realize that.
January 18th, 2013 at 8:56 am
jackasspuria Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 8:55 am
From ProFootballTalk – Chip Kelly says he doesn’t need a mobile quarterback
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/18/chip-kelly-says-he-doesnt-need-a-mobile-quarterback/
Yeah Chip, I believe that as much as I believed you were actually going to stay at Oregon…
Well, crap…trade him palmer then…
January 18th, 2013 at 8:56 am
theghostronin79 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 8:39 am
. If Mark got a decent offer I guarantee you he’d bail out of the entire thing and cash out. He’s got nothing personal at stake, it was his daddy’s team. Never really his. He’s just a caretaker for what’s next. Big shot owner that will take the team to LA.
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That’s one way to look at it. But that’s hard for me to see it so black and white. I mean, I was born on an Air Force Base, Grew up there, going to the commissary where everybody was shopping in camo’ fatigues….It’s no surprise I joined the Marine Corps when I graduated high school. The military is special to me and there’s a certain comfort level involved in that lifestyle.
Mark Grew up on the sidelines, at training camp; following players around probably in awe of them. HE, was their biggest fan. I’m sure his business sense is wearing on him, but I’d argue that he IS emotionally involved in this team. It’s been part of his life for ALL of his life. Now his daddy’s gone, it’s a connection to his Old Man. Know what I’m sayin?
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Absolutely Theg.
He wants it to work alright and he still wants his dad to be proud of his efforts.
He wants it work for Al’s sake but I’m not buying the idea of some people on here that Mark is any kind of hands on owner.
For example, some people-Mistic I think-say that Prior played because Mark insisted.
That goes against all logic.
Mark Davis openly admits that he doesn’t have the football acumen of his dad and knows little about football operations.
This is a guy who couldn’t figure out who to hire as GM and so he asked Madden and Ron to evaluate them for him.
And then he goes and hires the first one he sees!
He’s not likely to think that he knows more about who the quarterback should be than Allen.
January 18th, 2013 at 8:57 am
dang i knew barney was a bad influence…
January 18th, 2013 at 8:57 am
– Regarding the change at offensive coordiantor, McKenzie said of Allen: “I was proud the way he identified the issues and attacked them. He didn’t just continue to run this offense and make it work, keep this guy, keep this guy- he evaluated it, said okay, he stood up, and said okay, we’re going to make a change.”
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I’m so proud of Tits too.
Yep, he sure identified the issues and attacked them.
Let’s forget that he was largely responsible for creating them to begin with.
Who cares if the Krapp ‘issue’ was glaringly evident as early as the the pre-season and was never really ‘attacked’ while the 2012 season spriraled down the toilet ?
We should all be ‘proud’ of Smiling Titty Boy for being an incredible leader. Someone that swiftly identifies a problem and solves it, pronto.
I’m so proud !
January 18th, 2013 at 8:57 am
F it…everyone blows rocks…let this franchise become the Green Bay Packers and have the fans buy shares of the Raiders!!!
January 18th, 2013 at 8:58 am
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 8:57 am
dang i knew barney was a bad influence…
LOL, When I read that, first thing I thought of was…he killed Barney!
January 18th, 2013 at 9:00 am
OC – Mularkey, Mornhinweg, Cameron, Chryst, Lombardi
OL – Castillo, Sparano, Tice
LB – Billy Davis, Adam Zimmer
ST – Alan Lowry, John Bonamego
January 18th, 2013 at 9:00 am
lol…
Tim Kawakami @timkawakami
Cleveland’s new team–GM Mike Lombardi & coach Rob Chudzinski–was a down-the-line option for 49ers in Jan. 2011. Plan A: Baalke & Harbaugh.
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Compare Reggie-Allen with other tandems. It’d be almost a last resort for most NFL franchises.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:01 am
GG
And Mark Davis allowed the tandem of McKenzie-Allen to happen.
Such a great owner, no?
January 18th, 2013 at 9:01 am
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 8:56 am
mark is to blame as well..i hope that he realizes it before long…one way is to get the fans to show a message…supporting a losing coach and gm is not the way that message gets sent.
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Actually we would have to put the blame on Al for not having a well thought out plan in place BEFORE he passed on. Al should have had a mentor GM under him, someone he picked and groomed to take over. He had to know his health was failing.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:02 am
Mike Lombardi isnt the GM for Cleveland.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:03 am
jackasspuria Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 8:56 am
Raider-In-PA
I too am giving Reggie McKenzie the benefit of the doubt because of what he came into when he got the Raiders’ GM job.
But the masses here love to pin this whole thing on Machete McKenzie.
True blame lies with Mark Davis for this and I wanted to make sure the masses realize that.
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Yeah you can blame Mark up until a certain point tho. In his defense, Wolf, Herock and Madden pointed him this way. Mark not a football guy.
Who is really to blame is Reggie. He was handed the job, and everything that’s come to pass in FOOTBALL OPERATIONS has been under his watch, thru his decisions.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:03 am
DennisAllensVisor
Correct!
Lombardi is VP of Player Personnel.
It is reported the Chiefs’ Ray Farmer is the favorite to land the Browns’ GM job.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:04 am
Mike Lombardi isnt the GM for Cleveland.
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Who said he was? He’s just the VP for player personnel
January 18th, 2013 at 9:04 am
GG
Mark has the power to rid himself of McKenzie but continues to keep him on staff.
I find it hard to believe Davis would keep McKenzie if he didn’t believe in his capabilities…
Actually, maybe Mark is that incompetent and will keep McKenzie around even if he doesn’t like what he sees…
January 18th, 2013 at 9:04 am
That’s what I’m thikning England. He probably questions Reggie about everything to stay “In the know” about the plans moving forward, and mentions what he’d like to see….But I doubt he’s really in there pushing HIS own agendas regarding players and whatnot.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:05 am
guest123 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 7:30 am
Q: Are you still talking to Norv Turner?
McKenzie: “No. I’m saying right from the beginning when we hit this thing running at the beginning. I specifically haven’t talked to Norv since…after he told me he was interested. So we move on.”
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Is this quote true?
I thought Norv WAS NOT interested from the start.
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I don’t think so. Read it again and the only way it makes any sense is if you edi the sentence to read:
after he told me he wasn’t interested…so we move on.
I think Reggie’s mumbling is what causes the close captions to get a word wrong. Another example of failure to communicate.
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I agree 100%. If you read that as wasn’t interested it fits the context completely.
Why move on from a guy who told you he was interested?
Then he goes on to say its like free agency out there. Lots of other teams looking for coaches.
In other words, the guys they first talked to turned them down and went to other teams.
I am really intrigued by Chan Gailey. He didn’t do so well in KC, but he was working under Todd Haily so he gets a pass from me on that.
He has had a successful offense everywhere else and has been to a Super Bowl.
Gailey had Fitzpatrick playing well enough to get a huge contract before he turned into an INT machine. The Bills had a high octane offense in 2011.
Would at least like to know the Raiders interviewed him.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:05 am
guest123 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 9:04 am
Mike Lombardi isnt the GM for Cleveland.
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Who said he was? He’s just the VP for player personnel
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Post 932
January 18th, 2013 at 9:06 am
hwnrdr Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 8:57 am
F it…everyone blows rocks…let this franchise become the Green Bay Packers and have the fans buy shares of the Raiders!!!
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I like that idea. I’m in!
We can hold the stock owners meetings at tailgate parties outside of the Coliseum!
January 18th, 2013 at 9:06 am
Have some sympathy towards Mark. He is not Al Davis, a genius football man who has gone old/senile.
Mark inherited the team. He doesn’t have the football and football business acumen to make good or bad decisions himself.
He sought the help of some who do. So blame Wolf, Herock and Madden, not Mark Davis.
Anyway…once you acknowledge Mark hired Reggie. From that day onwards, it’s all Reggie’s fault for everything that goes bad. He’s the boss of football operations.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:07 am
GG
Like I said, I find it hard to believe Davis would keep McKenzie if he didn’t believe in his capabilities…
Actually, maybe Mark is that incompetent and will keep McKenzie around even if he doesn’t like what he sees…
January 18th, 2013 at 9:08 am
I want to make a list of all the people who are writing Reggie McKenzie off so soon.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:09 am
GG
By keeping Reggie McKenzie at the helm, it shows Mark Davis believes in his capabilities as GM, no?
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not in the group of can McKenzie.
I want to see more from him before I come to that conclusion.
If Mark Davis is keeping Machete McKenzie as GM, I’m going to roll with it. Davis wouldn’t keep him around if he didn’t like what he sees, right?
January 18th, 2013 at 9:10 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 9:08 am
I want to make a list of all the people who are writing Reggie McKenzie off so soon.
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Please put my name at the very top of your list.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:11 am
GG
And I’m playing Devils Advocate here with the whole blame McKenzie blame Davis deal.
Blame goes in equal parts, if you want to pin it on somebody.
Yes, McKenzie runs the football operations. But, when it boils down to it, Davis has the authority to rid himself of McKenzie.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:11 am
i want to make a list of those who follow reggie blindly..,
January 18th, 2013 at 9:12 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 9:08 am
I want to make a list of all the people who are writing Reggie McKenzie off so soon.
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He was actually a little more forthcoming in this interview, in terms of the re-build, and that they’re still a year away at least from being in Cap security. He’s never hinted at a re-build before. That part was refreshing at least.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:12 am
Al_is_theraiders
You would have to add in “following Mark blindly” to your list description.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:12 am
Mark’s hands are tied in year one…he just can’t fire Reggie and Allen….yet. Not after one year. Allen will get another year. Reggie may get another 2-3.
Al wouldn’t have been afraid. But Mark can’t rubbish Wolf/Herock/Madden so soon. Plus the salary he’d have to pay out for the term of their contracts.
That’s where Mark’s head is at. Pretty much re-watch his post-Saints press conference.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:12 am
mark does have the power to do that, but that doesnt absolve reggie from the many many mistakes reggie has made.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:13 am
Actions speak louder than mumbles Reggie! Act already!
January 18th, 2013 at 9:13 am
guest123 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 9:10 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 9:08 am
I want to make a list of all the people who are writing Reggie McKenzie off so soon.
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Please put my name at the very top of your list.
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And me too.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:14 am
Al_is_theraiders
Of course it doesn’t absolve McKenzie.
But to me, it’s more of a damning indictment of Davis.
Why sit there and let your product becoming what it is becoming?
January 18th, 2013 at 9:14 am
951…the disturbing part is that that means reggie lied to get the job in the first place…
January 18th, 2013 at 9:16 am
GG
I hear you.
Funny thing is, the statements you posted about ‘hands are tied’ ironically reflect of what McKenzie has been basically saying about his year-one performance.
He says his hands were tied by cap situation and out of whack contracts.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:17 am
Mark Davis wasn’t about to fire McKenzie after one season since it would make Mark Davis look like a real prat.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:17 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 8:53 am
Colts
Raiders
Jaguars
Cardinals
Jets
5 teams need an OC.
Hue Jackson
Cam Cameron
Mike Mularkey
Marty Mornhinweg
Pep Hamilton
Joe Lombardi
Geep Chryst
Edgar Bennett
Mike Martz
Greg Olson
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Knapp is still available.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:17 am
951…the disturbing part is that that means reggie lied to get the job in the first place…
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Well, to US maybe. Who knows what he said to Mark. Only the two of them know for sure.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:17 am
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 9:06 am
hwnrdr Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 8:57 am
F it…everyone blows rocks…let this franchise become the Green Bay Packers and have the fans buy shares of the Raiders!!!
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I like that idea. I’m in!
We can hold the stock owners meetings at tailgate parties outside of the Coliseum!
Drunken meetings…heck yeah!
January 18th, 2013 at 9:17 am
See what I mean…forget about all these intriguing good name coaches coming here…
Pro Football Weekly @ProFootballWkly
RT @AdamSchefter: @mortreport reports Stanford’s Pep Hamilton is a leading candidate to become Andrew Luck’s director of offense for Colts.
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Imo you watch, it’ll be Greg Olson instead. Allen doesn’t want someone who threatens his job. Reggie is happy to oblige his “my guy” HC.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:18 am
ENGLANDRAIDER
I agree.
Davis is in a Catch 22.
Fire McKenzie — panicked and confused decision.
Keep McKenzie — incompetent and misguided.
Like I’ve said before, I’m playing Devils Advocate here. I don’t agree with McKenzie getting all the blame — he deserves plenty, but not all. Davis needs to get the venom of the masses here that pin it all on Reggie.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:19 am
Looks like Pep Hamilton will be with Indianapolis, as he is the leading candidate to be OC there!
January 18th, 2013 at 9:20 am
forget about all these intriguing good name coaches coming here…
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was there ever a hope? Names flying off the boards and teams scrambling over themselves to secure the best ones and meanwhile back at Oakland HQ…
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January 18th, 2013 at 9:20 am
Lombardi backtracking?
Dude was a Weeden hater when he was with NFL Network. This is what he said today about Weeden after becoming VP of Player Personnel for the Browns…
“It’s a different evaluation from a media perspective,” Lombardi said. “I think it’s going to take some time to study him. I’ve got to go back through and watch practice tapes. I think when you live in the building, I think you have a better understanding of the player moving forward, have an evaluation and do that. So it’s going to take some time for me to really formulate my final opinions of him. I think when you do media you certainly have commentary of games, but now I think it’s a different set of circumstances.”
January 18th, 2013 at 9:20 am
As much as the Bay Area folk hate to hear it, would that move be the best one for the future of the Raiders?
I’m not sayin’ it is, just askin.
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It isn’t. A new stadium would mask the issues of moving back to LA for awhile, but in the end, they will resurface. Raiders and Raider fans got the gangster thug age from their stint down there. That element would come back bigger than ever. Maybe not right away, but it will be there eventually. Then you’re looking at empty stadiums because families would opt not to come.
Granted, we have our own trouble filling our old tired stadium but not because of that. Rather because of the product and old stadium. Give us a new home like they’d get in LA and we would fill up, guaranteed.
Lastly, I agree with Hwn that you may forever lose those of us that have been left in the dust twice.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:21 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
Happy get fked up Fridays to all.
What up Green Party! Put it in da air!
January 18th, 2013 at 9:21 am
Jackasspuria…
Mark doesn’t deserve that venom…Herock/Wolf/Madden do. They’re the ones who recommended and pushed him. Basically it was just hire him no other interviews no other suggested GMs.
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Davis is in a Catch 22.
Fire McKenzie — panicked and confused decision.
Keep McKenzie — incompetent and misguided.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:21 am
Mckenzie has changed the culture of this football team. missing the playoffs is nothing new, yet many of you conveniently forget that.
what is new is that we didn’t set a record for penalties, and once Slolando got reassigned to tackling dummy, our run defense improved. more importantly, the scholarship players have been put on notice.
but by all means, keep on longing for the good old days when we didn’t make the playoffs, we couldn’t bring in any quality coaches, the players never had respect for the coaches who were here, and we regularly shot ourselves in the foot with stupid penalties.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:21 am
thug *image
January 18th, 2013 at 9:21 am
Bring in Murlarkey, DA!!!
January 18th, 2013 at 9:22 am
its stupid to see all the other teams improving and the raiders the only team regressing….and getting a “pass” on it…
January 18th, 2013 at 9:22 am
GG
In the end, it was Mark Davis’ decision to ink McKenzie to a contract.
Herock, Wolf and Madden didn’t force a pen into McKenzie’s hand to sign the contract and force Mark to watch, right?
January 18th, 2013 at 9:22 am
Looks like Pep Hamilton will be with Indianapolis, as he is the leading candidate to be OC there!
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Well look on the bright side, once every job is filled for all the other teams, we will have leverage over all the rest of the guys looking for work. Right? Make sense? I’m trying to be positive here.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:23 am
943, lol. If Raiders became public, count me in.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:23 am
the day mckenzie signs a javon walker, you’ll prolly all blow a load and start calling him a genius.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:24 am
Moore
Milliner
Or
JJ
January 18th, 2013 at 9:24 am
guest123 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 9:20 am
forget about all these intriguing good name coaches coming here…
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was there ever a hope? Names flying off the boards and teams scrambling over themselves to secure the best ones and meanwhile back at Oakland HQ…
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Where’s that “anti-Reggie” list? I am not afraid to go on record with Guest here and now.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:25 am
tone im just trying to get back to 8-8…
January 18th, 2013 at 9:25 am
The Big Banana Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 9:23 am
943, lol. If Raiders became public, count me in.
I doubt that would ever happen but you never know!
January 18th, 2013 at 9:25 am
970.DMAC Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 9:21 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
Happy get fked up Fridays to all.
What up Green Party! Put it in da air!
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Well then…….
FK u guys 2 on this beautiful chilly morning in the OAK
January 18th, 2013 at 9:26 am
Raider O
Any of the aforementioned three will suffice.
Raiders 1st round pick should be an impact defender.
McKenzie and Co. might go best available route and that might just be an offensive guy, however.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:26 am
we have our own trouble filling our old tired stadium but not because of that. Rather because of the product and old stadium. Give us a new home like they’d get in LA and we would fill up, guaranteed.
Lastly, I agree with Hwn that you may forever lose those of us that have been left in the dust twice.
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Problem is the old guard is fading out and the new generation has no memory of just how great it once was. They think it’s the KC Royals and lose interest. The old guard can only sustain the brand name for so long.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:27 am
DMAC Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 9:25 am
970.DMAC Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 9:21 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
Happy get fked up Fridays to all.
What up Green Party! Put it in da air!
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Well then…….
FK u guys 2 on this beautiful chilly morning in the OAK
NO! LOL…stand in line!
January 18th, 2013 at 9:27 am
Jackasspuria…
Put yourself in Mark’s shoes as per below (and him no football guy at all).
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Davis is in a Catch 22.
Fire McKenzie — panicked and confused decision.
Keep McKenzie — incompetent and misguided.
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Mark will move on from Allen in 2013, and from Reggie in 2015.
Based on this catch-22 scenario you so eloquently expressed, he’ll act in the middle of it.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:27 am
Pick up the phone Reggie and give Channing Crowder a call. See if he ready to make his comeback.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:27 am
Mark didn’t interview any other GM candidates.
Due diligence?
FIRE REGGIE NOW.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:28 am
tonedeezy Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 9:21 am
Mckenzie has changed the culture of this football team. missing the playoffs is nothing new, yet many of you conveniently forget that.
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Hardly even possible.
Cable did that.
Maybe Allen is doing that.
McKenzie? How? the same players are still here.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:31 am
You all have good weekend.
later.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:32 am
We will Draft DT, OT, DE relative to the best available with our first three picks.Linebacker and DB’s to follow.
Proably the same in 2014 with a possible variation of OG vs. OT.
Massive holes on the lines and no depth.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:32 am
LOL at Reggie “changing the culture.”
4-12.
FIRE REGGIE NOW.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:32 am
GG
That is a good question and scenario, put yourself in Mark’s shoes.
Coming from a military family background — results now, improvise and adapt — if I were Mark and didn’t like what I was seeing from the people I hired, I would go Al Davis and amputate the rotted appendage — One-and-Done.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:33 am
4-3
LDE – Shonasty
DTs – Houston/Bryant
RDE – The nastiest pass rusher in Reggie’s eyes
LBs – Wheeler/Crowder/Burris
Working w/ a tight budget, thats why I’m suggesting Crowder.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:33 am
Reggie will still miss with a bad apple here and there. Nobody’s perfect. Difference is identifying it and whipping it into shape or shipping it out, rather than enabling it. No secret Big Al was a players owner and allowed them to go over their coach’s head.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:35 am
Heard on sports radio after Kaepernick’s big game against the Packers the lone team to have him as the No. 1 QB and top-rated prospect on their draft board was the Oakland Raiders.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:36 am
jackasspuria Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 9:35 am
Heard on sports radio after Kaepernick’s big game against the Packers the lone team to have him as the No. 1 QB and top-rated prospect on their draft board was the Oakland Raiders.
Yes, but we didn’t draft til the 2nd that year and we went with Lil Wiz
January 18th, 2013 at 9:36 am
Jackasspuria Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 9:35 am
Heard on sports radio after Kaepernick’s big game against the Packers the lone team to have him as the No. 1 QB and top-rated prospect on their draft board was the Oakland Raiders.
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Wow, seriously? FMFL! Fk my football life!
January 18th, 2013 at 9:37 am
Mark doesn’t have the nuts.
Not to mention he must be a little gun shy based on the fact that every move he has made has turned out to be an unmitigated disaster.
Palmer, Curry, hiring Reggie, he is a disgrace to his father’s legacy.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:37 am
Who’s our new OC?
January 18th, 2013 at 9:37 am
2013 Off-Season Program:
VP – Ray Anderson
OC – Marty Mornhinweg
OL – Juan Castillo
LB – Billy Davis
ST – Alan Lowry
Free Agent Targets:
RT – King Dunlap
WR – Jordan Shipley
CB – Glover Quin
NT – Ricky Jean-Francois
DT – Justin Bannan
ILB – Larry Grant
DE/OLB – Juqua Parker
LB – Zac Diles
DE/OLB – Trevor Scott
Draft:
1- Damontre Moore [DE/OLB, A&M]
3- Kwame Geathers [NT/DE, Georgia]
4- Omoregie Uzzi [OG, G.Tech]
6- Taylor Reed [ILB, SMU]
7- Reid Fragel [RT, Ohio St]
7- Greg Reid [CB, Valdosta]
Draft w/Tradedown:
1- Barrett Jones [OL, Bama]
2- Alex Okafor [DE/OLB, Texas]
3- Kwame Geathers [NT/DE, Georgia]
4- Omoregie Uzzi [OG, G.Tech]
6- Taylor Reed [ILB, SMU]
7- Reid Fragel [RT, Ohio St]
7- Greg Reid [CB, Valdosta]
January 18th, 2013 at 9:38 am
I didn’t know AI still has his own shoe.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:38 am
Hwnrdr
Oh yeah, remember that.
I was keyed in on several beat writers twitter accounts on draft day last April.
Jerry Mac and Kawakami said there ‘was a buzz in the Raiders draft room’ when Kaepernick appeared to fall to them.
Then the 49ers pounced, traded up and nabbed Kappy.
Kawakami — a 49ers columnist mostly — was excited. Jerry Mac tweeted the mood in the Raiders war room went — morbid.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:38 am
hwnrdr Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 9:36 am
jackasspuria Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 9:35 am
Heard on sports radio after Kaepernick’s big game against the Packers the lone team to have him as the No. 1 QB and top-rated prospect on their draft board was the Oakland Raiders.
Yes, but we didn’t draft til the 2nd that year and we went with Lil Wiz
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49ers traded up ahead of us with the fear we would take him.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:38 am
jackasspuria Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 9:32 am
GG
That is a good question and scenario, put yourself in Mark’s shoes.
Coming from a military family background — results now, improvise and adapt — if I were Mark and didn’t like what I was seeing from the people I hired, I would go Al Davis and amputate the rotted appendage — One-and-Done.
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That’s what I would do too. But you and I are not Mark, who have that conundrum about a) rubbishing herock/wolf/madden in firing reggie, b) would be on the hook for their entire contracts, c) probably understands no one of any merit wants to come here.
Maybe starting to see it’s sloppy seconds, holding onto it another year or three, hope it works out better than 2012.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:39 am
telling you al had him dead in sights…missed on the niner move though..
January 18th, 2013 at 9:39 am
I forgot the Niners traded up to get him…
January 18th, 2013 at 9:40 am
The Big Banana Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 9:33 am
Reggie will still miss with a bad apple here and there. Nobody’s perfect. Difference is identifying it and whipping it into shape or shipping it out, rather than enabling it. No secret Big Al was a players owner and allowed them to go over their coach’s head.
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That very fact was one of the main problems creating the culture that Cable tried to fix and he had some success.
They were still playing for Cable in the last games of the year.
There is no reason why Allen can’t also change the culture since Al is dead.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:41 am
Hwnrdr
And that ‘near-miss’ on Kappy is probably what prompted Al Davis to nab Terrelle Pryor in the third round of the supplemental draft.
I remember reading Pryor would have lasted until the 5th round in the supplemental draft, however, the Raiders didn’t have a fifth round pick and at 8-8 weren’t assured of getting him. Browns were reportedly very interested and the team identified as willing to offer up a fifth.
Hence the third-round selection of Pryor.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:41 am
You know, that would have put an end to all this Palmer stuff, because we would have had a better QB at the time than Kyle friggen Boller! Oh well…smart move on them!
January 18th, 2013 at 9:41 am
How in the world did Reggie let Trestman not get here? Why isn’t Trestman our OC? What are we waiting for??? Reggie, you do not have all day. Allen does not know how to find a OC. Does Reggie?
January 18th, 2013 at 9:42 am
jackasspuria Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 9:41 am
Hwnrdr
And that ‘near-miss’ on Kappy is probably what prompted Al Davis to nab Terrelle Pryor in the third round of the supplemental draft.
I remember reading Pryor would have lasted until the 5th round in the supplemental draft, however, the Raiders didn’t have a fifth round pick and at 8-8 weren’t assured of getting him. Browns were reportedly very interested and the team identified as willing to offer up a fifth.
Hence the third-round selection of Pryor.
That is true!
January 18th, 2013 at 9:42 am
Hey ODB
Did u forget your sweet hearts B-Day yesterday?
No more BJs from Betty for you sir.
lol
January 18th, 2013 at 9:42 am
GG
I hear you man.
Nice back-and-forth banter without using insults.
It’s going to be interesting, to say the least with our Oakland Raiders, no.
Whomever will be the OC is the hot topic issue now. Then the draft and so forth.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:42 am
RaidRaid Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 9:41 am
How in the world did Reggie let Trestman not get here? Why isn’t Trestman our OC? What are we waiting for??? Reggie, you do not have all day. Allen does not know how to find a OC. Does Reggie?
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Are you serious?
WOW.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:43 am
Reggie is a highly respected talent evaluator in the NFL.
“The Raiders (4-10) have stumbled on the field, but McKenzie, especially, is well-respected around the NFL. He took over a TALENT-POOR TEAM that was stripped of draft picks in 2012.”
Reggie was not hired to model menswear, appear in GQ or appear on talk shows.
The panic move occurred in 2007 when we hired Lance.
Mr Davis knew we had a huge college talent evaluation problem.
He specifically said he hoped Lance could help in that area.
Regrettably, Mr Davis refused to get rid of his old guard scouting department and deal with the real problem. We continued to fail in the draft causing more panic signings of Moss, Walker, Harris, Hall etc. etc.
Then Hue and Mark brought in Carson after Mr. Davis passed, further complicating an already bad cap situation and giving away more picks in 2012 and 2013.
Ultimately the task of building the new scouting department, cleaning up the cap mess and building a roster with no draft picks went to Reggie.
That is why he got a four deal as a rookie GM.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:43 am
RaidRaid
Trestman was probably eager and waiting for a head coaching opportunity. Chicago gave that to him.
He was the head honcho in Montreal and it only made sense for Trestman to seek a HC position in the NFL.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:43 am
DMAC Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 9:42 am
Hey ODB
Did u forget your sweet hearts B-Day yesterday?
No more BJs from Betty for you sir.
lol
LOL…maybe that is why he was notably absent yesterday! Who knows, him and Betty may have went on a date!
January 18th, 2013 at 9:44 am
just got the AI shoes…
January 18th, 2013 at 9:46 am
tired of “highly respected” product is 4-12….
January 18th, 2013 at 9:47 am
Wow. Haha.
Talk about how one major playoff-blunder can errode regular season success.
Pro Football Focus did grade Rahim Moore as a top-ten overall safety in 2012 — hard to believe after watching him backpedal, reach in desperation and flop on that 70-yard TD bomb from Flacco to Jones to send the Broncos-Ravens game to OT.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:49 am
I would hope by now many of you are beginning to realize I may have been correct regarding the rather unattractive nature regarding Oakland “opportunities”.
Please remember the prospective candidate needs to be interested in us. It is not a one way street.
Trestman, Norv interested in our OC job???? You are kidding, right?
The cap issues, a lack of picks and a dreadful lack of roster talent makes Oakland opportunities less appealing than other NFL openings.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:50 am
1020.hwnrdr Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 9:43 am
DMAC Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 9:42 am
Hey ODB
Did u forget your sweet hearts B-Day yesterday?
No more BJs from Betty for you sir.
lol
LOL…maybe that is why he was notably absent yesterday! Who knows, him and Betty may have went on a date!
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lol
Probably broke Betty’s dusty ass bones.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:50 am
jackasspuria Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 9:42 am
GG
I hear you man.
Nice back-and-forth banter without using insults.
It’s going to be interesting, to say the least with our Oakland Raiders, no.
Whomever will be the OC is the hot topic issue now. Then the draft and so forth.
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Likewise, thanks for a thoughtful debate.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:51 am
These guys will have to re-structure for us to have a chance this off-season:
Palmer
Kelly
Huff
DHB
Thats like 25 million in savings..
January 18th, 2013 at 9:53 am
One has to wonder if Mike Brisiel remains an Oakland Raider next season if the team does switch to more a power scheme.
The zone blocking specialist has a base salary of $4.35 million with a $680,000 signing bonus for 2013. His cap number is $5.03 million.
McKenzie could easily cut Brisiel, however, and the cap hit would be the remainder of the signing bonus $2.04 million (as the Raiders inked the guard to a 5-year, $20 million deal with a $3.4 million signing bonus).
Source: http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/oakland-raiders/mike-brisiel/
January 18th, 2013 at 9:53 am
My money’s on Greg Olson.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:53 am
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/oakland-raiders/
A good website for player contract terms.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:54 am
These guys will have to re-structure for us to have a chance this off-season:
Palmer
Kelly
Huff
DHB
Thats like 25 million in savings..
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Branch should also be on that list
January 18th, 2013 at 9:54 am
Draft:
1- DE/ OLB D Moore
3- DE/ OLB B Jenkins or CB Leon McFadden (Go Aztecs)
4- LB Andrew Jackson
January 18th, 2013 at 9:54 am
I’m out for now. Check back asap. Have a good day all.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:54 am
GG Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 9:53 am
My money’s on Greg Olson.
As much as I hate that idea…I probably have to say that you are right!
January 18th, 2013 at 9:55 am
We need to focus on pass rushers and CBs. We have Manning and Rivers in our division.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:55 am
DA
Those players do not have to do anything.
If they do not renegotiate THE RAIDERS need to cut them, take the cap hit and move on.
That is a possibility with DHB and Kelly.
Neither of them plays any way near their contract value.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:56 am
Good morning Nation and Green Party.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:56 am
DMAC
If on roster and all performance incentives met, Tyvon Branch counts for $10.9 million on the salary cap next season.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:56 am
What up, Brother from qnother mother!
January 18th, 2013 at 9:57 am
1038.jackasspuria Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 9:56 am
DMAC
If on roster and all performance incentives met, Tyvon Branch counts for $10.9 million on the salary cap next season.
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Wow!
January 18th, 2013 at 9:57 am
Branch’s contract isnt out of whack.
He gets that contract from any team in the league with the need.
The others are the only real bad contracts left..
January 18th, 2013 at 9:57 am
O
We need a DT.
We have no one like Ngata or Woolfolk. They are key reasons why their teams are playing this weekend.
You do not get those guys in the 6th round very often.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:58 am
Mr. Prez,
S&P my brother.
Smoking and posting.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:58 am
O Dog
I told u we should of signed Portet
lol
January 18th, 2013 at 9:59 am
If we go the first 3 picks without getting a NT & Pass Rusher.. That draft is a fail.
January 18th, 2013 at 9:59 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 9:57 am
Branch’s contract isnt out of whack.
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Yes it is
Branch is not worth 10 mil nest season
We got raped w/ his contract
January 18th, 2013 at 10:00 am
i like branch but is the contract not out of whack because reggie made it?
January 18th, 2013 at 10:01 am
The Raiders aren’t the Raiders without Al.
I remember several posters on this board stating that the Raiders would cease being the Raiders after Al died but I didn’t believe it.
They said the Raiders would lose their personality and become just another vanilla team.
I didn’t think it was possible.
I have been watching the Raiders all of my life and this season the Raiders were unrecognizable. It is not that they lost but they way they lost.
Pride and Poise?
Hopefully the next GM will bring back Raider football because watching the Raiders getting neutered from within has been a painful process for those of us that bleed silver and black.
GO RAIDERS!
January 18th, 2013 at 10:01 am
Charlie Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 9:57 am
O
We need a DT.
We have no one like Ngata or Woolfolk. They are key reasons why their teams are playing this weekend.
You do not get those guys in the 6th round very often.
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NTs that can rush the passer like Ngata or Wilfork don’t grow on trees. I agree that we need DTs too, but I’m not sold on Star. Hankins was a beast for the Buckeyes, but he is no Ngata.
We need pass rushers, and this is a good draft for that position.
January 18th, 2013 at 10:01 am
By the numbers 2013 salary cap hits:
Carson Palmer – $16.9 million if on roster
Base salary – $13 million
Signing bonus – $3.9
Micheal Huff – $11.2 million if on roster.
Base – $4 million
Bonus – $3.2 million
Tommy Kelly – $9.3 million if on roster
Base – $6.5 million
Bonus – $2.16 million
Darrius Heyward-Bey – $10.6 million if on roster
Base – $7.7 million
Bonus – $2.88 million (this is a performance/roster bonus)
January 18th, 2013 at 10:02 am
1048…couldnt have said it better myself.
January 18th, 2013 at 10:02 am
DMAC,
What are you talking about? I wanted Portet too.
LOL
January 18th, 2013 at 10:02 am
Visit http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/oakland-raiders/ to see 2013 cap hits/base salary/signing bonus for every player.
January 18th, 2013 at 10:02 am
1042.Charlie Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 9:57 am
O
We need a DT.
We have no one like Ngata or Woolfolk. They are key reasons why their teams are playing this weekend.
You do not get those guys in the 6th round very often.
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Why do people like to compare our players w/ other superstars in the league?
Ngata and Wolfork aren’t ordinary.
Makes me laugh when people compare our LBs to Lewis and Willis. We should of, could of…….
These guys are a rare beasts.
It just aint fair!
January 18th, 2013 at 10:03 am
RaidRaid Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 9:41 am
How in the world did Reggie let Trestman not get here? Why isn’t Trestman our OC? What are we waiting for??? Reggie, you do not have all day. Allen does not know how to find a OC. Does Reggie?
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Let’s see, do I want to be an offensive coordinator for a team with little talent, cap troubles, doesn’t have a full compliment of picks… OR do I want to be the head coach of a team full of talent, enough cap space to accomplish what I need and full compliment of picks… Oh seems like a no brainer for me to take the OC position… if only Reggie would have hired me
SMH. The brilliance of this place never ceases to amaze me.
January 18th, 2013 at 10:04 am
enough with the little talent crap…this offense had teams scared before da/dirt knapp…
January 18th, 2013 at 10:04 am
Doesnt matter who made the deal, Branch is a known talent in the NFL.
He should get 5 million more for every game he had to play next to Matt Giordano.
January 18th, 2013 at 10:05 am
Why do people like to compare our players w/ other superstars in the league?
Ngata and Wolfork aren’t ordinary.
Makes me laugh when people compare our LBs to Lewis and Willis. We should of, could of…….
These guys are a rare beasts.
It just aint fair!
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Exactly. Especially when you are talking about a 3 down NT (can rush the passer).
January 18th, 2013 at 10:05 am
jackasspuria Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 10:02 am
Visit http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/oakland-raiders/ to see 2013 cap hits/base salary/signing bonus for every player.
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Guaranteed Money is more the issue..
January 18th, 2013 at 10:06 am
i agree branch is worth it…big fast powerful…so you would pay to keep talent right?
January 18th, 2013 at 10:06 am
DennisAllensVisor
Haha! Brilliant line about Branch-Gio!
January 18th, 2013 at 10:08 am
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 10:06 am
i agree branch is worth it…big fast powerful…so you would pay to keep talent right?
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That would be ideal in a rebuild.
Pay your good young players, while trying to weed out the overpaid/old/bad ones.
January 18th, 2013 at 10:09 am
Stevie Brown in on Hue’s hands too.
January 18th, 2013 at 10:09 am
10 mil for Branch isn’t out of whack? Lol! Did they resurrect Al Davis and give him a Reggie suit?
January 18th, 2013 at 10:09 am
It would cost the Raiders $9.7 million to release Tyvon Branch outright.
Team would have to pay the $9.7 million which is guaranteed money (signing bonus-etc. bonuses).
January 18th, 2013 at 10:10 am
1057.DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 10:04 am
Doesnt matter who made the deal, Branch is a known talent in the NFL.
He should get 5 million more for every game he had to play next to Matt Giordano.
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Plays the same w/ Huffy back there 2
January 18th, 2013 at 10:10 am
1056.Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 10:04 am
enough with the little talent crap…this offense had teams scared before da/dirt knapp…
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You’re right. Other teams were terrified. If only we didn’t hire DA we would have won the Super Bowl this year for SURE!
January 18th, 2013 at 10:10 am
1064.The Big Banana Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 10:09 am
10 mil for Branch isn’t out of whack? Lol! Did they resurrect Al Davis and give him a Reggie suit?
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Exactly
January 18th, 2013 at 10:11 am
1063.DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 10:09 am
Stevie Brown in on Hue’s hands too.
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No no… that is Palmers Fault. Sterling Moore is too…
January 18th, 2013 at 10:11 am
they should keep huff at cb let branch and mitchell handle safety, keep chekwa and draft a 3rd cb….
January 18th, 2013 at 10:11 am
DMAC Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 10:10 am
1057.DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 10:04 am
Doesnt matter who made the deal, Branch is a known talent in the NFL.
He should get 5 million more for every game he had to play next to Matt Giordano.
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Plays the same w/ Huffy back there 2
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Huffy is a more athletic Giordano. Not a long term answer.
To be fair, Huff & Branch never really got a shot to play together in Tarver’s system.
So i’ll give Huff 1 more year at FS.
January 18th, 2013 at 10:12 am
Right guard Mike Brisiel had ankle surgery following the season. McKenzie said he played with the injury all season and that it hampered his performance
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So is this why Brisiel played like schit?
Hope so
January 18th, 2013 at 10:12 am
bcz24 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 10:11 am
1063.DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 10:09 am
Stevie Brown in on Hue’s hands too.
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No no… that is Palmers Fault. Sterling Moore is too…
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How is it Palmers fault?
January 18th, 2013 at 10:12 am
4-12 is a lot scarier…
January 18th, 2013 at 10:12 am
So i’ll give Huff 1 more year at FS.
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As long as he’s not trying to play CB
January 18th, 2013 at 10:13 am
Mike Mitchell shouldnt see the field unless there is a kick of the ball involved.
You cant complain about Branch in one breath and want Mitchell playing in the other.. LOL
January 18th, 2013 at 10:13 am
jackasspuria Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 9:47 am
Wow. Haha.
Talk about how one major playoff-blunder can errode regular season success.
Pro Football Focus did grade Rahim Moore as a top-ten overall safety in 2012 — hard to believe after watching him backpedal, reach in desperation and flop on that 70-yard TD bomb from Flacco to Jones to send the Broncos-Ravens game to OT.\
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Peter King suggested that Moore was lazy on that play. Complete bullschtt! He simply misjudged the strength of Flacco’s arm. The guy was on the run and uncorked a screaming missile. Matt Ryan throws that ball, Moore stands there and waits for a punt. The play had everything to do with Flacco’s arm talent. By the way, why did the corner just let Jones run free? May have been Cover 2, but if that’s the case, bad defensive call. Best-case scenario, Moore is in a one-on-one jump ball situation. That’s not good.
January 18th, 2013 at 10:14 am
DMAC Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 10:12 am
So i’ll give Huff 1 more year at FS.
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As long as he’s not trying to play CB
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Absolutely.
January 18th, 2013 at 10:15 am
not complaining about branch…i like him at safety. mitchell can cover tight ends well..good in run support….
January 18th, 2013 at 10:17 am
Branch is the CP3 of our D.
Their both servicable and overpaid.
January 18th, 2013 at 10:17 am
hey i heard reggie is keeping dmc…
January 18th, 2013 at 10:18 am
Excuse my grammer
lol
*they’re
January 18th, 2013 at 10:20 am
Make Branch start earning all that cheese.
Have him return punts like he used to at UCONN.
January 18th, 2013 at 10:22 am
Mitchell can cover tight ends decently, yes.
He’s effective in run support, yes.
Sounds like a LB to me.
January 18th, 2013 at 10:23 am
DMAC Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 10:20 am
Make Branch start earning all that cheese.
Have him return punts like he used to at UCONN.
Good Idea…remember when Hue was hesitant to let him return punts, and teh other players said, watch this coach…???
January 18th, 2013 at 10:24 am
Mike Mitchell should have been our Wesley Woodyard.
January 18th, 2013 at 10:25 am
We have not scared anyone since 1983.
You scare people by drafting physically gifted, ill tempered lineman on both sides of the ball.
We used to do that.
I am beginning to realize many on this blog do not know about the history of Raider football.
Passing league my a$$. You need to dominate the line of scrimmage.
Giselle and Tom Brady passed for 266 yards last year and lost the Super bowl. They only had 22 minutes time of possesion.
You need to build your lines through the draft with the rookie cap.
Bodies deteriorate when you have been playing in the box for a decade.
Our lines are a mess and it will take TWO stellar drafts to rejuvinate them.
January 18th, 2013 at 10:25 am
Good Idea…remember when Hue was hesitant to let him return punts, and teh other players said, watch this coach…???
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That was stupid. Know your roster dumbazz.
January 18th, 2013 at 10:25 am
Raider O Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 10:24 am
Mike Mitchell should have been our Wesley Woodyard.
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Wesley Woodyard should have been our Wesley Woodyard LOL..
January 18th, 2013 at 10:27 am
8-8 > 4-12
Hire a OC already. Oh wait, Allen doesn’t know how to. Either does Reggie. Thats why he deferred it to Allen. Reggie blew it. Could’ve had Trestman for HC/OC. Hire a OC already.
January 18th, 2013 at 10:29 am
DMAC
I assume you are joking.
The cold simple reality is that the top tier teams in football have studs on both lines.
Though Raider O likes to cite the rare exception, most of thse suds have been drafted in the first two to three rounds of the draft.
We do that and we become relevent. Trouble is it will take two drafts to get there.
January 18th, 2013 at 10:29 am
Once Reggie hops out of Green Bays dumpster, he might be able to find a OC in the NFL landscape. Allen can’t. He isn’t able to get past the 4-12 season.
January 18th, 2013 at 10:30 am
Schit runs downhill fellas mark hires mumbles he inturn hires Denise who inturn hires knapp and the rest of the clown staff we were screwed from that point on I have no faith in any of these clowns to turn this around DA and mumbles will be fired at seasons end mark will get tired of having to buy up tickets at the colisieum I said yesterday I hope we draft warmack and will still be happy if we do but now I hope we draft Demontre Moore and with the first pick in 2014 we draft clowney that would be the best pass rushing end combo in the NFL for years so here’s to that
January 18th, 2013 at 10:31 am
A sack of nuts seperates the good coaches from the mediocre coaches at best. In the meantime, Reg and Allen are stuck in the menu at IHOP.
January 18th, 2013 at 10:32 am
DAV,
I wanted us to draft him.
Someone needs to hire me as a scout. Just don’t tell them what I said about Frantz Joseph. lol
January 18th, 2013 at 10:33 am
Raider O Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 10:25 am
Good Idea…remember when Hue was hesitant to let him return punts, and teh other players said, watch this coach…???
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That was stupid. Know your roster dumbazz.
I’m gonna assume you are talking about Hue, right?
January 18th, 2013 at 10:34 am
Charlie,
Btw, the reason the Pats and Ravens are still playing in the POs is T Brady and Flacco. What games are you watching?
January 18th, 2013 at 10:35 am
I’m gonna assume you are talking about Hue, right?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
WOW
Yeah Dude.
January 18th, 2013 at 10:37 am
Hwnrdr,
I have nothing but respect for you. You are the treason I don’t talk more crap about the Fakers.
Who cares if a fan (a great fan) knew that Branch was a return man, but I expect the HC to know his roster and what his players are capable of.
You People are sensitive today?
January 18th, 2013 at 10:38 am
Raider O Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 10:35 am
I’m gonna assume you are talking about Hue, right?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
WOW
Yeah Dude.
LOL…hey man, just checking…
But that was the punt return that Branch was a tackle away from breaking it! That was actually kinda dumb of Hue not knowing that he could return!
January 18th, 2013 at 10:38 am
Reason*
January 18th, 2013 at 10:38 am
Raider O Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 10:37 am
Hwnrdr,
I have nothing but respect for you. You are the treason I don’t talk more crap about the Fakers.
Who cares if a fan (a great fan) knew that Branch was a return man, but I expect the HC to know his roster and what his players are capable of.
You People are sensitive today?
Thanks O! …Haha…It’s Friday and I wanna get the F outta here!
January 18th, 2013 at 10:41 am
The coaches on the market to take an offensive coordinator job have been flying off the shelves of late. The head coaches are all in place and the attention has shifted to the coordinators.
The most recent offensive coordinators to find landing spots were Aaron Kromer (Bears), which occurred Wendesday and Norv Turner (Browns) and Ken Whisenhunt (Chargers) who both signed on Thursday. All three of them would have been solid offensive coordinator choices in Oakland.
The Raiders have reportedly interviewed three candidates thus far – Marc Trestman, Mike Martz, and Greg Olson – but Trestman became the Bears head coach and there is no indication the Raiders will be offering the OC job to either of the other two.
The Raiders are one of only a handful of teams still without an offensive coordinator. Despite many of the best ones already gone, there are still a few good names out there to be had.
Several of the fired head coaches already found jobs. Three offensive minded coaches still remain — Mike Mularkey, Chan Gailey, and Pat Shurmer. Two other potential candidates were left without a team when their head coach was fired including former Eagles OC Marty Mornhinweg and former Bears OC Mike Tice. The remaining name out there is Ravens former OC Cam Cameron who was fired midway through the 2012 season.
There are also, of course, the three Green Bay candidates — Bob McAdoo, James Campen, and Jerry Fontenot. These three become candidates based on the strength of their resumes. Their being from the Packers organization only adds to their chances with Reggie McKenzie’s history with the team.
The lone college candidate whose name seems to be bandied about of late is Stanford offensive coordinator, Pep Hamilton. He has held the OC position for the Cardinal for two seasons and is producing some buzz as an OC candidate in NFL circles. His hiring would mean both of Dennis Allen’s coordinators came from Stanford.
So, as you can see, there are a few candidates from whom to choose. But not all candidates are equal and not all are what the Raiders are looking for. This whole search has already taken longer than most had expected. But from the beginning, it was known that there were many great prospective offensive coordinators to be had.
It is a double edged sword to be certain. On one hand, the Raiders need to be sure they get the coach they want before someone else does (which may have already happened). On the other hand being one of the few remaining jobs, the Raiders look more and more enticing (although a coach signing out of desperation is not really a good thing).
The longer the Raiders wait, the more criticism they would invite with regard to their coaching search. It was a long process last year and forced what many saw as settling for bringing back Greg Knapp as the offensive coordinator. That’s not the kind of mistake they can afford to make again.
They can still get a prime candidate, but they better hurry and get their guy before they are left with the scraps again.
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2013/1/17/3889538/still-several-potential-offensive-coordinators-for-oakland-raiders
January 18th, 2013 at 10:41 am
Can you imagine Branch returning kicks with Taiwan Jones being gunner?
January 18th, 2013 at 10:42 am
Raider O Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 10:32 am
DAV,
I wanted us to draft him.
Someone needs to hire me as a scout. Just don’t tell them what I said about Frantz Joseph. lol
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Me and you can start our own scouting agency.
January 18th, 2013 at 10:43 am
If we don’t get our OC soon. Allen will have to settle for knapp, again. He’ll be the only one remaining. He’ll be the only one willing to work under Allen.
If no OC wants to come and work with Allen, whats Reg waiting for. Hire a OC already.
January 18th, 2013 at 10:43 am
Hwnrdr,
DHB IMHO is the most underused talent on this roster.
Let him return
Run reverses with him
Screens
January 18th, 2013 at 10:44 am
DHB return kicks?!
I almost spit out my water..
January 18th, 2013 at 10:44 am
Getting the ball in his hands is the biggest hurdle.
He just makes it too hard.
January 18th, 2013 at 10:45 am
There is a reason the Raiders were quick to fire Knapp and have yet to find a OC. There is a reason.
January 18th, 2013 at 10:48 am
People make it sound like the more earlier you hire an OC the better the results would be lol
January 18th, 2013 at 10:48 am
Q: How is the coaching search going Reggie?
RM: Oh yeah….ummmmmm…I think Dennis was looking into that. I’m sure he’ll figure out something. Gotta run guys.
January 18th, 2013 at 10:48 am
Hwnrdr Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 10:38 am
Raider O Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 10:37 am
Hwnrdr,
I have nothing but respect for you. You are the treason I don’t talk more crap about the Fakers.
Who cares if a fan (a great fan) knew that Branch was a return man, but I expect the HC to know his roster and what his players are capable of.
You People are sensitive today?
Thanks O! …Haha…It’s Friday and I wanna get the F outta here!
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Yeah Hawaiian..your the reason I blog here everyday!
J/K
January 18th, 2013 at 10:48 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 10:13 am
Mike Mitchell shouldnt see the field unless there is a kick of the ball involved.
You cant complain about Branch in one breath and want Mitchell playing in the other.. LOL
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Mitchell really started showing up in run support later in the year. Remember him driving Cam Newton into the ground time after time? Dude isn’t completely worthless on Defense.
January 18th, 2013 at 10:50 am
mitchell put the hurt in cam…made him want to cry…
January 18th, 2013 at 10:51 am
only time this season i was pumped during a game…lol
January 18th, 2013 at 10:51 am
mcfadden20. Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 10:48 am
People make it sound like the more earlier you hire an OC the better the results would be lol
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At least you don’t have to select from scrub OCs. And the sooner the OC is in place, the sooner he can get to work putting it all together. But sifting thru the dregs isn’t good for success. Got to get your mind right.
January 18th, 2013 at 10:52 am
we need a new FS and new SS, i still can’t get over the TB game where the ball boinked off top of Tyvon Branch’s helmet , like a punt
January 18th, 2013 at 10:53 am
RaidRaid Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 10:51 am
mcfadden20. Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 10:48 am
People make it sound like the more earlier you hire an OC the better the results would be lol
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At least you don’t have to select from scrub OCs. And the sooner the OC is in place, the sooner he can get to work putting it all together. But sifting thru the dregs isn’t good for success. Got to get your mind right.
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There are bunch of good coordinators still out there, I’m pretty sure they are looking for the right one, if they just wanted to hire another Knapp, they could have done that a day after firing Knapp
January 18th, 2013 at 10:54 am
1045.DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 9:59 am
If we go the first 3 picks without getting a NT & Pass Rusher.. That draft is a fail.
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TRUTH!!!
January 18th, 2013 at 10:54 am
My moment was when my friend texted me “Congrats” after Jano made that fg to beat Pittsburgh.
I couldn’t watch it. I had to walk out of the room.
January 18th, 2013 at 10:57 am
Bring back the bed and breakfast crew. Reggie could save a few bucks, and with the culture being changed, Shell 3.0 could work. I’m down. Whos with me?
January 18th, 2013 at 10:57 am
that was the other…i stand corrected…beating pit is great any year…
January 18th, 2013 at 10:57 am
Hey guys! Just checked out PFT and saw a slew of headlines regarding new hires from teams all across the league. Nothing about Oakland.
Anyone else think that the Raiders are the ugliest girl at the prom right now?
January 18th, 2013 at 10:57 am
BOKNOWS Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 10:54 am
1045.DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 9:59 am
If we go the first 3 picks without getting a NT & Pass Rusher.. That draft is a fail.
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TRUTH!!!
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Aint no way that’s happening!
1st pick DT/NT
2nd pick DE/OLB
3rd pick CB
4th pick RB/TE
January 18th, 2013 at 10:59 am
What happened to # 3 overall being Geno Smith?
That was all the rage last night.
January 18th, 2013 at 10:59 am
While McKenzie said execution was more of an issue than scheme, he also said, “It’s obvious Darren is much better on certain types of plays. That goes without saying. That’s how you’ve got to do it.’’
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I see. And you didn’t know this going into last season? Every fan on this blog new it, cept for a couple of posters. But thats besides the point. We knew it and you didn’t. Now enlighten us some more.
January 18th, 2013 at 10:59 am
it seems like we need players at every position I don’t understand keeping anyone worth trading.. start over
January 18th, 2013 at 11:00 am
LOL, Ray! What’s up brother?
January 18th, 2013 at 11:01 am
Marks hair Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 10:59 am
it seems like we need players at every position I don’t understand keeping anyone worth trading.. start over
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We already tried that. Doesn’t work.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:01 am
DJ Johnny Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 10:59 am
What happened to # 3 overall being Geno Smith?
That was all the rage last night.
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Dude, that was forever ago…LOL
January 18th, 2013 at 11:02 am
1123.Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 10:57 am
that was the other…i stand corrected…beating pit is great any year…
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Remember that 3rd and 9 for Pitt towards the end? If they make it…game over. Burris pressured Ben I think into bad throw.
I couldn’t watch that one either.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:02 am
The only way I see Smith coming in (maybe) if Martz is hired as the OC and Philly trades with us for Pryor…but wait, Kelly is saying he don’t need a mobile QB…nevermind!
January 18th, 2013 at 11:02 am
Marks hair Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 10:59 am
it seems like we need players at every position I don’t understand keeping anyone worth trading.. start over
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Yeah me too and replace Mcfadden too, can’t have some one that’s 100% likely to miss atleast half a season
January 18th, 2013 at 11:03 am
Shoot, may as well bring in Tom Hanks and tell him we are making Forrest Gump 2 and tell him to Run!!!
January 18th, 2013 at 11:04 am
Geno Smith ? really, we talking about drafting a qb, i mean we’re not talking about improving other bad parts of our team , we’re talking about drafting a qb (in My allen iverson voice)
January 18th, 2013 at 11:05 am
hwnrdr Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:03 am
Shoot, may as well bring in Tom Hanks and tell him we are making Forrest Gump 2 and tell him to Run!!!
– might just run outta the coliseum and towards east coast, will get there in like a month i guess lol
January 18th, 2013 at 11:05 am
Papertiger418 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 10:57 am
Hey guys! Just checked out PFT and saw a slew of headlines regarding new hires from teams all across the league. Nothing about Oakland.
Anyone else think that the Raiders are the ugliest girl at the prom right now?
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More like the one that you wake up next to the morning after an unsuccessful night at the bar. Sneak out the backdoor, don’t wake her up and not tell a soul…kinda take it to the grave kinda girl!!
Get home take a HOT shower and straight to the Doctors for a STD test, kinda girl!!
January 18th, 2013 at 11:06 am
1130.. when was that exactly?
January 18th, 2013 at 11:06 am
dj…my heart was pounding lol….started to jump like we won the super bowl…lol
January 18th, 2013 at 11:07 am
r8eray Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:05 am
Papertiger418 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 10:57 am
Hey guys! Just checked out PFT and saw a slew of headlines regarding new hires from teams all across the league. Nothing about Oakland.
Anyone else think that the Raiders are the ugliest girl at the prom right now?
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More like the one that you wake up next to the morning after an unsuccessful night at the bar. Sneak out the backdoor, don’t wake her up and not tell a soul…kinda take it to the grave kinda girl!!
Get home take a HOT shower and straight to the Doctors for a STD test, kinda girl!!
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Exciting experience lol
January 18th, 2013 at 11:07 am
The Lone Raider Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 10:57 am
Bring back the bed and breakfast crew. Reggie could save a few bucks, and with the culture being changed, Shell 3.0 could work. I’m down. Whos with me?
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Plus, if we bring back the Bed & Breakfast crew, Reggie won’t even have to go to the IHOP anymore!
January 18th, 2013 at 11:08 am
Once again..
2013 Off-Season Program:
VP – Ray Anderson
OC – Marty Mornhinweg
OL – Juan Castillo
LB – Billy Davis
ST – Alan Lowry
Free Agent Targets:
RT – King Dunlap
WR – Jordan Shipley
TE – Delanie Walker
CB – Glover Quin
NT – Ricky Jean-Francois
DT – Justin Bannan
ILB – Brad Jones
ILB – Larry Grant
DE/OLB – Juqua Parker
LB – Zac Diles
DE/OLB – Trevor Scott
Draft:
1- Damontre Moore [DE/OLB, A&M]
3- Kwame Geathers [NT/DE, Georgia]
4- Omoregie Uzzi [OG, G.Tech]
6- Taylor Reed [ILB, SMU]
7- Reid Fragel [RT, Ohio St]
7- Greg Reid [CB, Valdosta]
Draft w/Tradedown:
1- Barrett Jones [OL, Bama]
2- Alex Okafor [DE/OLB, Texas]
3- Kwame Geathers [NT/DE, Georgia]
4- Omoregie Uzzi [OG, G.Tech]
6- Taylor Reed [ILB, SMU]
7- Reid Fragel [RT, Ohio St]
7- Greg Reid [CB, Valdosta]
January 18th, 2013 at 11:09 am
Raider O Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 10:43 am
Hwnrdr,
DHB IMHO is the most underused talent on this roster.
Let him return
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Oh, definitely. Because he tracks the ball so well while it’s in the air and has such great hands.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:09 am
I think if we had won in Atlanta, it would have changed how we played the rest of the year, maybe we might have went 8-8 but it would have made no sense, we would have been outta the playoffs, so i’ll take the #3 pick with the possibility of trading down and acquiring 2-3 additional picks instead of drafting between 12-16 slot
January 18th, 2013 at 11:10 am
1142…lmao!
January 18th, 2013 at 11:10 am
when every single part of the team is bad looking at a quarterback doesn’t sound crazy to me… all Carson Palmer is going to do for us is cost us Clowney
January 18th, 2013 at 11:10 am
Al, Me too.
Like you said, anytime, any year, beating Pittsburgh is a great day.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:12 am
Don’t be shocked if the next post from Cork is entitled:
“Raiders Hire Mike Tice for Offensive Coordinator Position”.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:12 am
You start Pryor.
Best case scenario: You got your young, exciting QB of the future.
Worst case scenario: You got Jadeveon Clowney.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:12 am
We would have these picks in the draft
1st rd
3rd rd
4th rd
4th rd Compensation
6th rd
6th rd comp
6th rd comp
6th rd comp
7th rd
now only if we can some how get a 2nd rounder and another 3rd and a 5th, then we’re talking about atleast 3-5 players starting for our team next year from the draft and many likely to contribute later in the year
January 18th, 2013 at 11:13 am
O
Of course you need good QB play to win.
Good QB play is reliant on good Oline play.
Good Oline play provides time to throw as well as the ability to run the ball allowing a balanced attack.
You build a team from the inside out. When the lines fail, the TEAM FAILS. BOTH LINES.
Brady, Flacco, Ben, Eli and Peyton have all looked very average when their Oilnes were getting beat.
If that was not the case Peyton would have about 12 rings.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:14 am
mcfadden20. Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:12 am
We would have these picks in the draft
1st rd
3rd rd
4th rd
4th rd Compensation
6th rd
6th rd comp
6th rd comp
6th rd comp
7th rd
now only if we can some how get a 2nd rounder and another 3rd and a 5th, then we’re talking about atleast 3-5 players starting for our team next year from the draft and many likely to contribute later in the year
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Hmm?
I must have missed it, how do we get all those picks?
January 18th, 2013 at 11:14 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:12 am
You start Pryor.
Best case scenario: You got your young, exciting QB of the future.
Worst case scenario: You got Jadeveon Clowney.
– worst case scenario, Clowney gets some serious injury, than we have to go to draft unproven QB, who would take 2-3 years to lead us back to respectability
January 18th, 2013 at 11:14 am
Why is people from twitter talking about Rolando being cut? Any truth to this?
January 18th, 2013 at 11:15 am
My buddy says he’s thinking of taking Manti Te’o #1 in his Fantasy draft…
January 18th, 2013 at 11:15 am
r8eray Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:05 am
Papertiger418 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 10:57 am
Hey guys! Just checked out PFT and saw a slew of headlines regarding new hires from teams all across the league. Nothing about Oakland.
Anyone else think that the Raiders are the ugliest girl at the prom right now?
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More like the one that you wake up next to the morning after an unsuccessful night at the bar. Sneak out the backdoor, don’t wake her up and not tell a soul…kinda take it to the grave kinda girl!!
Get home take a HOT shower and straight to the Doctors for a STD test, kinda girl!!
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OUCH…I don’t think the Raiders are that bad, I believe DA is so overly anxious to avoid making another mistake like Knapp that he’s dragging his feet to make a decision. Meanwhile everyone else is moving forward. Do we need any other signs that DA is in over his head?
January 18th, 2013 at 11:16 am
Marks hair Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:10 am
when every single part of the team is bad looking at a quarterback doesn’t sound crazy to me… all Carson Palmer is going to do for us is cost us Clowney
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It’s folly to assume you will be the worst team in football. Look at the whole of the NFL. Most teams are barely mediocre, a few really bad, and every year some team (like Detroit) goes from good to bad and a few from bad to good.
If you’re going to go for solid, you need lines for any quarterback, good qb, bad qb.
If you try to develop a young and inexperienced qb w/out a solid line to protect him, well, there just went your investment.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:16 am
BTW guys, last time I checked a DT can rush the passer as well.
As a matter of fact inhibiting the QB to step into throws is huge when assessing the effectiveness of a pass rush.
The DE sack total is only one aspect of a pass rush.
A Dline works as a unit and you will not rush the passer AND stop the run without a solid NT or very good DT’s in a 4-3 alignment.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:16 am
mcfadden20. Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:14 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:12 am
You start Pryor.
Best case scenario: You got your young, exciting QB of the future.
Worst case scenario: You got Jadeveon Clowney.
– worst case scenario, Clowney gets some serious injury, than we have to go to draft unproven QB, who would take 2-3 years to lead us back to respectability
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lol.. umm ok.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:17 am
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:12 am
You start Pryor.
Best case scenario: You got your young, exciting QB of the future.
Worst case scenario: You got Jadeveon Clowney.
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HOT DAMN…….That’s prolly the best way to see that scenario.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:17 am
papertiger418 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:15 am
My buddy says he’s thinking of taking Manti Te’o #1 in his Fantasy draft…
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Does your buddy really exist?
January 18th, 2013 at 11:18 am
1150.. thats what id do..
Trade cp3 dmac dhb anybody possible.. start tp draft clowney..
January 18th, 2013 at 11:18 am
I got compensatory picks from this page
http://www.detroitlionsdraft.com/2013/01/predicting-the-compensatory-pick/2/
January 18th, 2013 at 11:20 am
Has DA interviewed Murlarkey, yet?
January 18th, 2013 at 11:20 am
Did Hue get the OC gig in Carolina?
January 18th, 2013 at 11:21 am
DAV
Get it? In his “Fantasy” draft?
January 18th, 2013 at 11:22 am
I got OG Stacey Dash on my fantasy draft.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:25 am
mcfadden20. Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:18 am
I got compensatory picks from this page
http://www.detroitlionsdraft.com/2013/01/predicting-the-compensatory-pick/2/
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Can you list them?
At work, cant click that..
January 18th, 2013 at 11:25 am
Anyone still want Barrett Jones?
January 18th, 2013 at 11:25 am
I’m starting to worry about my brother ODB.
Yesterday was Betty’s B-Day.
Hopefully he didn’t knock the dust out that p*ssy so bad that he’s on the run now.
lol
January 18th, 2013 at 11:25 am
papertiger418 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:21 am
DAV
Get it? In his “Fantasy” draft?
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Womp, womp, woooooooooooommmmppp…
January 18th, 2013 at 11:25 am
Any bloggers on here in the reno area…?
January 18th, 2013 at 11:26 am
Im gonna tell u that if the raiders are gonna be good, u have to have smart coaches. i know. i polayd 4 smart ones and dumb ones. if u want a good ball club, u bettr have smart coaches doesnt work any otrher way.Look at the 4 clubs left in the spt season. Smart coaches except for baltimor. If the reiders hire a dumb coach, we’re effed. If they hire a smart coach, u can bet the bottom piece of your ass we’ll b goin to the post seasom.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:26 am
I’m trading up to get Eva Green @TE
My girlfriend wants to snag Bradley Cooper in the 2nd round
January 18th, 2013 at 11:26 am
Oakland
The Oakland Raiders lost Kamerion Wimbley and will receive a 4th round pick
The Oakland Raiders lost Michael Bush and will receive a 6th round pick
The Oakland Raiders lost Kevin Boss and will receive a 6th round pick
The Oakland Raiders lost Samson Satele and will receive a 6th round pick
The Oakland Raiders lost Jason Campbell who is cancelled out by Mike Briesel
The Oakland Raiders lost Trevor Scott who is cancelled out by Dave Tollefson
January 18th, 2013 at 11:26 am
hwnrdr Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:25 am
Anyone still want Barrett Jones?
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see post 1143.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:27 am
hwnrdr Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:25 am
Anyone still want Barrett Jones?
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Hell yeah
He’s a beast, but we need pass rushers
January 18th, 2013 at 11:27 am
DAV
*rimshot*
January 18th, 2013 at 11:27 am
mcfadden20. Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:26 am
Oakland
The Oakland Raiders lost Kamerion Wimbley and will receive a 4th round pick
The Oakland Raiders lost Michael Bush and will receive a 6th round pick
The Oakland Raiders lost Kevin Boss and will receive a 6th round pick
The Oakland Raiders lost Samson Satele and will receive a 6th round pick
The Oakland Raiders lost Jason Campbell who is cancelled out by Mike Briesel
The Oakland Raiders lost Trevor Scott who is cancelled out by Dave Tollefson
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Great.
Back to the draft board I go.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:28 am
So we have a 1st..3rd..2-4ths….4-6ths…and 2-7ths??
January 18th, 2013 at 11:29 am
raders would be absolutly stupid, dumb and dumber style, to pick a qb theis draft when next years crop is loaded. raders better quit talkin of pickin a qb with this yeatrs draft. its dumb and stupid and makes no sence.Too many good players in nest years draft. Too many. none in this years.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:30 am
Not sure if its possible, but I would trade all 6th rounders and our 4th for a 2nd and 3rd round pick.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:31 am
So we will have a whole list of back round talent this year…4 6ths? WOW
January 18th, 2013 at 11:31 am
Seriously though, we need to trade back and stack the lines
Also sign #1 WR in FA. Would like Bowe but that won’t happen so I’ll settle for Greg Jennings. At least he’s not on GB’s practice squad
January 18th, 2013 at 11:31 am
DMAC Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:30 am
Not sure if its possible, but I would trade all 6th rounders and our 4th for a 2nd and 3rd round pick.
Can’t trade comp picks
January 18th, 2013 at 11:32 am
Can’t trade comp picks!
January 18th, 2013 at 11:32 am
whats the word on rolando mc? can we dump himm for casue and shave that off the cap or is allen and him kissin and makin up. we need butts in the seats.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:33 am
Hawaiian…lol took the exact words outta my mouth!
January 18th, 2013 at 11:34 am
hwnrdr Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:31 am
DMAC Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:30 am
Not sure if its possible, but I would trade all 6th rounders and our 4th for a 2nd and 3rd round pick.
Can’t trade comp picks
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FK
oh well
January 18th, 2013 at 11:34 am
Can’t trade comp picks.
Still Reggie would have quite the feast with all those low-rounders.
Remember, it’s imperative that we change the complexion of the roster (figuratively, Mistic).
January 18th, 2013 at 11:37 am
Remember, it’s imperative that we change the complexion of the roster
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It’s imperative we change the complexion of the staff.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:37 am
r8eray Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:33 am
Hawaiian…lol took the exact words outta my mouth!
LOL
January 18th, 2013 at 11:38 am
The Big Year Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:37 am
Remember, it’s imperative that we change the complexion of the roster
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It’s imperative we change the complexion of the staff.
While not changing the complexion of The Raiders!
January 18th, 2013 at 11:38 am
Sooooo………
Can we give them away for a 2nd and 3rd then?
lol
January 18th, 2013 at 11:39 am
Shoot, we could wind up with 11 picks if we trade back….. Reggie prolly lickin his chops at that notion.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:41 am
DMAC Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:38 am
Sooooo………
Can we give them away for a 2nd and 3rd then?
lol
LMAO!
January 18th, 2013 at 11:44 am
Hwnrdr
Whats your plans for the weekend?
January 18th, 2013 at 11:45 am
Shutdown
Exactly.
The lines lead the way.
Without solid lines you get Jim Plunkett with NE and SF.
David Carr
Greg Cook
Archie Manning (Why do you think he would not let Eli play for the Bolts?)
Doug Williams
Rich Gannon with the Vikes
Guys who either had their careers ended or nearly ended until they got some protection.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:48 am
It’s obvious DA was terrified of Turner coming here it would’ve put him firmly on the backburner in terms of media attraction, credit for any success this team would enjoy.
So he ignored probably the best man for the job outside of Hue Jackson himself. Al Saunders has become the obvious choice if this team wants to acchieve any degree of success out of the gate without having to gradually gain momentum.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:52 am
Charlie Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:45 am
Shutdown
Exactly.
The lines lead the way.
Without solid lines you get Jim Plunkett with NE and SF.
David Carr
Greg Cook
Archie Manning (Why do you think he would not let Eli play for the Bolts?)
Doug Williams
Rich Gannon with the Vikes
Guys who either had their careers ended or nearly ended until they got some protection.
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Wonder how Carson would look when he’s not running for his life or having to force a throw?
January 18th, 2013 at 11:52 am
if da didnt pick norv because of he was scared, he should be fired for cause…
January 18th, 2013 at 11:53 am
We get comp picks for guys that are cut? (Wimbley, Boss)
January 18th, 2013 at 11:54 am
Raiders to have a press conference later today to introduce Al Saunders as their new OC and Juan Castillo as their O-line coach.
Great!!
January 18th, 2013 at 11:55 am
DMAC Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:44 am
Hwnrdr
Whats your plans for the weekend?
Not sure about tonight and tomorrow, but on Sunday, during the Niner game, my friends and I are gonna bbq and have some drinks…what about you?
January 18th, 2013 at 11:55 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:09 am
I think if we had won in Atlanta, it would have changed how we played the rest of the year, maybe we might have went 8-8 but it would have made no sense, we would have been outta the playoffs, so i’ll take the #3 pick with the possibility of trading down and acquiring 2-3 additional picks instead of drafting between 12-16 slot
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Trading. 8-8 record for 4-12 and a higher crapshoot draft choice is a fools errand, IMO. And another excuse.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:55 am
r8eray Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:54 am
Raiders to have a press conference later today to introduce Al Saunders as their new OC and Juan Castillo as their O-line coach.
Great!!
Serioulsy???
January 18th, 2013 at 11:55 am
January 18th, 2013 at 11:56 am
1- Damontre Moore [DE/OLB, A&M]
3- Kwame Geathers [NT/DE, Georgia]
4- Omoregie Uzzi [OG, G.Tech]
4- Joseph Fauria [TE, UCLA]
6- DJ Swearinger [S, S.Carolina]
6- Taylor Reed [ILB, SMU]
6- Joe Vellano [DE, Maryland]
6- Miguel Maysonet [RB, Stony Brook]
7- Reid Fragel [RT, Ohio St]
7- Greg Reid [CB/KR, Valdosta]
Game. Blouses.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:57 am
hwnrdr Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:55 am
DMAC Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:44 am
Hwnrdr
Whats your plans for the weekend?
Not sure about tonight and tomorrow, but on Sunday, during the Niner game, my friends and I are gonna bbq and have some drinks…what about you?
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Just chillin’
Probably BBQ at the crib and watch the games
Whiners need to lose already!!!
January 18th, 2013 at 11:57 am
Priest called it…not me!
But I wouldn’t doubt that scenario…or Tice as O-line Coach!
January 18th, 2013 at 11:57 am
r8eray Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:54 am
Raiders to have a press conference later today to introduce Al Saunders as their new OC and Juan Castillo as their O-line coach.
Great!!
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Where’s your source at RAy Ray
lol
January 18th, 2013 at 11:59 am
mcxcuse still coming up with them….
January 18th, 2013 at 12:02 pm
OK
QB is one area of strength on Oakland.
Palmer is a very good QB
Pryor #2
We will get and FCS QB as a free agent as #3.
Leinart is gone.
January 18th, 2013 at 12:03 pm
I say keep all picks and trade down for more and ship anyone off possible for even more….Double digit picks should be the goal….
January 18th, 2013 at 12:03 pm
Charlie Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 12:02 pm
OK
QB is one area of strength on Oakland.
Palmer is a very good QB
Pryor #2
We will get and FCS QB as a free agent as #3.
Leinart is gone.
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Bruce Bruce #3
January 18th, 2013 at 12:03 pm
BOKNOWS Says:
Any bloggers on here in the reno area…?
=========================================2 that I know of. I’m over the hill(geographically, as well). Norco claims to be in South Lake Tahoe, but he claims lots of things of dubious veracity.
January 18th, 2013 at 12:04 pm
I just hope we don’t end up w/ a team full of special teamers.
January 18th, 2013 at 12:06 pm
1214.Charlie Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 12:02 pm
OK
QB is one area of strength on Oakland.
Palmer is a very good QB
Pryor #2
We will get and FCS QB as a free agent as #3.
Leinart is gone.
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Check out Mike McMahon from little RPI college…6-5 240..4.60
January 18th, 2013 at 12:07 pm
1219.BOKNOWS Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 12:06 pm
1214.Charlie Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 12:02 pm
OK
QB is one area of strength on Oakland.
Palmer is a very good QB
Pryor #2
We will get and FCS QB as a free agent as #3.
Leinart is gone.
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Check out Mike McMahon from little RPI college…6-5 240..4.60
My bad….I meant Mike Hermann
January 18th, 2013 at 12:07 pm
dmac…thats reggies m.o.
January 18th, 2013 at 12:11 pm
we don’t need a bunch of new jags. We need star players
January 18th, 2013 at 12:12 pm
We need to MAKE star players..
January 18th, 2013 at 12:12 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 12:12 pm
We need to MAKE star players..
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W/ proper coaching, which we don’t have right now.
January 18th, 2013 at 12:13 pm
I watch a fair amount of FCS ball.
Skelton came out of Fordham.
Decent talent at that level WITHOUT THE EGOS!
They are never going to contribute much the first couple of years but they do not break the bank either.
January 18th, 2013 at 12:14 pm
DMAC Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 12:12 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 12:12 pm
We need to MAKE star players..
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W/ proper coaching, which we don’t have right now.
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For sure.
Our coaches are young and have a lot to learn. The process started 12 months ago.
January 18th, 2013 at 12:15 pm
Those comp picks would be HUGE.
Throw in a trade down to pick up a 2nd, plus whatever else.
This could be a great draft.
January 18th, 2013 at 12:15 pm
Someone posted the link to “football outsiders” stats lists… fascinating stuff.
The things that stood out to me was how highly our D-line was ranked against the run (7th) and how Jennings was rated below DHB at WR… Bowe was just above Streater. Wallace was even further down.
How much could any of these guys help the team, and at what cost?
I have my eye on Danny Amendola if he can’t reach a deal with the Rams. He is rated 2nd by PFF behind Welker at WR.
Also keep an eye out on Domenik Hixon NYG that also does some punt returning… rated fourth in FA WR by PFF.
January 18th, 2013 at 12:18 pm
omg…amendola…just threw up.
January 18th, 2013 at 12:20 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 12:14 pm
DMAC Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 12:12 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 12:12 pm
We need to MAKE star players..
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W/ proper coaching, which we don’t have right now.
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For sure.
Our coaches are young and have a lot to learn. The process started 12 months ago.
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I understand no one is perfect, but it is vital to learn from your mistakes.
I’m giving DA is 2nd chance to get it right.
January 18th, 2013 at 12:20 pm
1200.Priesttj12 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:48 am
It’s obvious DA was terrified of Turner coming here it would’ve put him firmly on the backburner in terms of media attraction, credit for any success this team would enjoy.
So he ignored probably the best man for the job outside of Hue Jackson himself. Al Saunders has become the obvious choice if this team wants to acchieve any degree of success out of the gate without having to gradually gain momentum.
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Where do you come up with this stuff? McKenzie is QUOTED AS SAYING that they CONTACTED Norv Turner, and that Norv said he WASN’T INTERESTED in the job. As had been speculated for some time beforehand, Turner went to work for Rob Chudzinski in Cleveland, with whom he had a working relationship in San Diego.
You really have to quit making things up to “validate” your opinions. The rest of us can read, you know.
January 18th, 2013 at 12:21 pm
Interesting as well as it is disgusting.
All 8 hc openings have been filled and not 1 BLACK HEAD COACH?!?!?!
Black people face the same discrimination and race hate in sports that they do in general society in amerikkka.
The next question is how many of the coordinator jobs being filled will be filled by a black man?
Amerikkka does not want to submit to a black mans leadership even in something as meaningless over hyped
gladiator sport.
This is the same reason that pryor and campbell are so hated here in this forum as well. These are examples of the reflection of the conditions which shape amerikkka.
Thats ok, lets fire dennis allen in 2014 and bring me kevin sumlin, he and pryor would tear the nfl up.
Pipe dream, i know because the more things change the more they stay the same.
sharpen your swords we are at war
January 18th, 2013 at 12:22 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 12:18 pm
omg…amendola…just threw up.
>>>>
Explain
January 18th, 2013 at 12:22 pm
LMAO HWNRDR!!
Run Forest Run!
hwnrdr Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:03 am
Shoot, may as well bring in Tom Hanks and tell him we are making Forrest Gump 2 and tell him to Run!!!
January 18th, 2013 at 12:24 pm
draft d moore with the third pick and with the first pick in 2014 take clowney and prepare to be dissapointed when we get a horrible OC cuz DA and mumbles suck
January 18th, 2013 at 12:24 pm
Just caught a bit of that the other morning 4:30 or so. Pretty funny way to start the day. I really love that freakin movie.
January 18th, 2013 at 12:25 pm
jesusraiderjim Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 12:24 pm
Just caught a bit of that the other morning 4:30 or so. Pretty funny way to start the day. I really love that freakin movie.
LOL< I like when someone mentioned that he will keep running out into the parking lot…
January 18th, 2013 at 12:26 pm
danny amendola? the guy that got body slammed by mcclain? nah man he is a smurf…4yard catches no breakaway….no thanks.
January 18th, 2013 at 12:26 pm
Amerikkka does not want to submit to a black mans leadership
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Then….
Who the fk is our President?
January 18th, 2013 at 12:27 pm
Danny Amendola is a beast.
Just cant stay healthy.
January 18th, 2013 at 12:28 pm
DMAC Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 12:26 pm
Amerikkka does not want to submit to a black mans leadership
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Then….
Who the fk is our President?
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LMFAO……..(breath)……..LMFAO
January 18th, 2013 at 12:28 pm
DMAC Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 12:26 pm
Amerikkka does not want to submit to a black mans leadership
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Then….
Who the fk is our President?
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Dude, he is as much white as he is black.
So tired of people calling him just black. He is 50/50..
January 18th, 2013 at 12:28 pm
beast…lol…cant stay healthy a little contradictory no?
January 18th, 2013 at 12:29 pm
Danny is good, but he’s probably one concussion away from retiring.
I pass
January 18th, 2013 at 12:29 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 12:28 pm
beast…lol…cant stay healthy a little contradictory no?
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Not at all.
In the games he has completed he has put up big numbers.
Simple..
January 18th, 2013 at 12:29 pm
Dude, he is as much white as he is black.
So tired of people calling him just black. He is 50/50..
******
Whoa whoa whoa… that comment right there just propelled you past me for the most racist blog member ever!!
January 18th, 2013 at 12:30 pm
Im not saying we target him by the way..
We dont have a shot..
He is staying in STL or going to New England..
January 18th, 2013 at 12:30 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 12:28 pm
DMAC Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 12:26 pm
Amerikkka does not want to submit to a black mans leadership
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Then….
Who the fk is our President?
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Dude, he is as much white as he is black.
So tired of people calling him just black. He is 50/50..
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Looks black to me
I have no problem w/ that
January 18th, 2013 at 12:31 pm
bcz24 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 12:29 pm
Dude, he is as much white as he is black.
So tired of people calling him just black. He is 50/50..
******
Whoa whoa whoa… that comment right there just propelled you past me for the most racist blog member ever!!
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Because I stated the fact that he is equally white & black…
Interesting.
January 18th, 2013 at 12:31 pm
how can someone beast if they get hurt doing it? makes no sense…none.
January 18th, 2013 at 12:31 pm
Let’s try getting NFL talent before we continue the monotonous dialogue of:
“Fire Reggie. Fire DA. That will fix everything!”
Seven different staffs in the last ten years that can not break .500 and you still think it is a coaching problem? Do the Raider coaches make up the majority of the team payroll? Tell me when that happens then you might have an argument.
Players are 80% of the team-coaches are at most 20% and the salaries prove it.
As Madden says:
“It’s all about players. We can talk about this thing and that thing and having good cheerleaders and all that. That’s all nice but you have to have players. If you have players, you’re probably going to win. If you don’t have players, you’re not going to win. … They’re going to go out and get the best players, and if they don’t have them, then they’re going to keep trying until they get them.”
January 18th, 2013 at 12:32 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 12:31 pm
how can someone beast if they get hurt doing it? makes no sense…none.
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Im sorry you dont understand it.
January 18th, 2013 at 12:32 pm
For the record DAV, you don’t actually have to say anything racist or be racist at all to be the most racist blogger ever.
January 18th, 2013 at 12:32 pm
please skip over oakland…lol a smurf beast…lol.
January 18th, 2013 at 12:33 pm
Id vote for Morgan Freeman for president….just sayin…….
January 18th, 2013 at 12:33 pm
DMAC Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 12:30 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 12:28 pm
DMAC Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 12:26 pm
Amerikkka does not want to submit to a black mans leadership
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Then….
Who the fk is our President?
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Dude, he is as much white as he is black.
So tired of people calling him just black. He is 50/50..
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Looks black to me
I have no problem w/ that
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I have no problem with the way he looks either.
My brother was black/mexican. Looked black. When describing himself, he said he was half black & mexican LOL..
January 18th, 2013 at 12:33 pm
im sorry you do…lol…crazy talk…carry on
January 18th, 2013 at 12:34 pm
Post 1251 does not speak with forked tongue = TRUTH!!!!
January 18th, 2013 at 12:35 pm
Amendola is 5′11 188
Denarius Moore is 6′0 190
LOL..
January 18th, 2013 at 12:35 pm
hwnrdr Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:38 am
The Big Year Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:37 am
Remember, it’s imperative that we change the complexion of the roster
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It’s imperative we change the complexion of the staff.
While not changing the complexion of The Raiders!
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This could be a fairly “complex” endeavor.
Hope he don’t get short mans complex.
January 18th, 2013 at 12:36 pm
In 2010 Amendola led the NFL in all-purpose yards with 2,364
LOL…
January 18th, 2013 at 12:38 pm
Amendola is solid when healthy
January 18th, 2013 at 12:40 pm
Heard on sports radio after Kaepernick’s big game against the Packers the lone team to have him as the No. 1 QB and top-rated prospect on their draft board was the Oakland Raiders.
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Source: Kaepernick is No. 1 QB on Raiders’ draft board
Posted by Evan Silva on April 28, 2011, 12:42 PM EST
APTwelve days ago, a league source told PFT that one unnamed AFC West team informed Nevada’s Colin Kaepernick that he is the No. 1 quarterback on their draft board.
PFT has tracked down the team.
Per a league source, it’s the Oakland Raiders.
The Raiders hosted Kaepernick for an official, team-facility visit on April 12. Thursday morning, the San Francisco Chronicle reported that Oakland is trying to trade into the first round of the draft.
ITs sucks but the Raiders miss the boat yet again
January 18th, 2013 at 12:40 pm
4.6 forty…lol
January 18th, 2013 at 12:41 pm
DMAC
DA has three more chances because his contract says so and you have nothing to do with it.
Don’t buy tix if you cannot handle rebuilding.
Whatever happened in 2011 or prior has nothing to do with Reggie and DA. NOTHING!
The franchise is progressing as quickly as can be expected given the issues this new Regime was handed.
Don’t even try to comapare us with other NFL turnarounds because NO ONE FACED THE ISSUES Reggie and company faced. NEVER IN THE NFL!!!
As of March 25, 2012, The Oakland Raiders held TWO SELECTIONS in the 2012 NFL Draft (a 5th and 6th round pick), which was just about a month away. The NFL awarded the Raiders three COMPENSATORY PICKS March 26. (A 3rd round 4th round and 5th round pick).
“In 2010, Al Davis went all out for his football team in an uncapped year and spent the most money in the league at over $150 million in player salaries. THAT IS EASILY THE MOST MONEY EVER SPENT ON A TEAM IN THE HISTORY OF THE NFL. One thing we know for sure is that Al Davis made his own bed here and whether that is good or bad, he must lie in it. At the other end of the spectrum are the Bengals, who have only $83.5 million in commitments for 2012. The Buccaneers, Titans, Redskins, and Broncos also are under $100 million.”wice the original figure.
“With this new cap figure, they go from pruning and trimming to SLASH AND BURN.”
McKenzie: “Doing this (last off-season) when we have over $30 million dollars over (the cap) with him the way his contract was, no. I did not have the luxury to do anything (last off-season) because of our current situation as it was. I was trying to get under. When you’re trying to get rid of $30 million-plus, it’s hard when you’re trying to bring in more (free agents) to add on to that.”
Not EXCUSES. Reality.
January 18th, 2013 at 12:41 pm
Missed the boat with harbaugh
Had something good with Hue Jackson fire him after 1 season instead of building
Not interviewing Marc Trestman last year for HC.. another missed boat.
Kaepernick the hottest young qb in the NFL right now.. Raiders/ Hue Jax were gonna take. Probaly wouldnt have used 1 n 2 on the Palmer trade cuz Kaeprnick would have been ready by then. HORRRRRIBLE!!!!
January 18th, 2013 at 12:41 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:56 am
1- Damontre Moore [DE/OLB, A&M]
3- Kwame Geathers [NT/DE, Georgia]
4- Omoregie Uzzi [OG, G.Tech]
4- Joseph Fauria [TE, UCLA]
6- DJ Swearinger [S, S.Carolina]
6- Taylor Reed [ILB, SMU]
6- Joe Vellano [DE, Maryland]
6- Miguel Maysonet [RB, Stony Brook]
7- Reid Fragel [RT, Ohio St]
7- Greg Reid [CB/KR, Valdosta]
Game. Blouses.
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Only 1 CB
Don’t know this Greg Reid guy but does he has the game changer like the HoneyBadger???
January 18th, 2013 at 12:41 pm
he could t even run away from mcclain…lol
January 18th, 2013 at 12:42 pm
Danny Amendola – 4.58 40
Jerry Rice – 4.71 40
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
January 18th, 2013 at 12:43 pm
REALLIONAIREB Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 12:41 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:56 am
1- Damontre Moore [DE/OLB, A&M]
3- Kwame Geathers [NT/DE, Georgia]
4- Omoregie Uzzi [OG, G.Tech]
4- Joseph Fauria [TE, UCLA]
6- DJ Swearinger [S, S.Carolina]
6- Taylor Reed [ILB, SMU]
6- Joe Vellano [DE, Maryland]
6- Miguel Maysonet [RB, Stony Brook]
7- Reid Fragel [RT, Ohio St]
7- Greg Reid [CB/KR, Valdosta]
Game. Blouses.
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Only 1 CB
Don’t know this Greg Reid guy but does he has the game changer like the HoneyBadger???
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Yep.
Google him.
Was on Florida St, got kicked off.
Similar story to Mathieu..
January 18th, 2013 at 12:43 pm
Amendola did get back up after he was body slammed and looked at him…
January 18th, 2013 at 12:44 pm
http://youtu.be/97aZ2Wd51pQ
lol
January 18th, 2013 at 12:44 pm
dayum danny is jerry rice now!…smh
January 18th, 2013 at 12:44 pm
Wait, Amendola is 5′11″? Wow, that is how tall I am…I guess I too will look like a smurf on the field!
January 18th, 2013 at 12:45 pm
Thank God REAL football people dont dismiss players because they took a big hit…
There wouldnt be anybody on the field.
January 18th, 2013 at 12:46 pm
I’d take Danny we need at least 1 wide receiver with hands. but I’d rather have Jennings
January 18th, 2013 at 12:46 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 12:44 pm
dayum danny is jerry rice now!…smh
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If you didnt get the meaning of posting the 40 times together, than you have other issues my friend.
January 18th, 2013 at 12:47 pm
Marks hair Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 12:46 pm
I’d take Danny we need at least 1 wide receiver with hands. but I’d rather have Jennings
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Too expensive.
Jordan Shipley is the guy.
He and Palmer have history too.
January 18th, 2013 at 12:47 pm
lol…im still watching danny the elf get suplexed…lol
January 18th, 2013 at 12:47 pm
Missed the boat with harbaugh
Had something good with Hue Jackson fire him after 1 season instead of building
Not interviewing Marc Trestman last year for HC.. another missed boat.
Kaepernick the hottest young qb in the NFL right now.. Raiders/ Hue Jax were gonna take. Probaly wouldnt have used 1 n 2 on the Palmer trade cuz Kaeprnick would have been ready by then. HORRRRRIBLE!!!!
Raiders are always missing the boat
January 18th, 2013 at 12:48 pm
Not interviewing Marc Trestman last year for HC.. another missed boat.
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NO ONE interviewed Trestman last year. Trestman has declined interviews for years leading up to this offseason saying he was content in Montreal. There was no boat to be missed.
January 18th, 2013 at 12:49 pm
its not that he took a big hit…its who he took a big hit from….lol
January 18th, 2013 at 12:49 pm
Believe me.. There was a boat missed. Not interviewing CHIP kelly was another boat missed.
At least an interview. See what did he think about this offense of talent.. what could he do.
Missed boat
January 18th, 2013 at 12:50 pm
Heard on sports radio after Kaepernick’s big game against the Packers the lone team to have him as the No. 1 QB and top-rated prospect on their draft board was the Oakland Raiders.
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Source: Kaepernick is No. 1 QB on Raiders’ draft board
Posted by Evan Silva on April 28, 2011, 12:42 PM EST
APTwelve days ago, a league source told PFT that one unnamed AFC West team informed Nevada’s Colin Kaepernick that he is the No. 1 quarterback on their draft board.
PFT has tracked down the team.
Per a league source, it’s the Oakland Raiders.
The Raiders hosted Kaepernick for an official, team-facility visit on April 12. Thursday morning, the San Francisco Chronicle reported that Oakland is trying to trade into the first round of the draft.
ITs sucks but the Raiders miss the boat yet again
January 18th, 2013 at 12:50 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 12:49 pm
its not that he took a big hit…its who he took a big hit from….lol
That wasn’t a hit, that was an audition! Can you smell what McClain’s got cooking? Yippee kayi yeah mfer!
January 18th, 2013 at 12:51 pm
reggie is still trying to find the water….
January 18th, 2013 at 12:51 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 12:21 pm
This is the same reason that pryor and campbell are so hated here in this forum as well. These are examples of the reflection of the conditions which shape amerikkka.
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Actually Pryor and Campbell aren’t hated on this forum. It’s YOU that’s hated because you keep playing the race card, just like you are now. Many have stated they want the best for Pryor, but love laughing at you because of your racist views.
They also hate Priest because he runs the race card whenever possible, then lies afterwards, switching views.
Actually, lol, they hate me as well, but mostly because I’m a sheep and follow behind you and priest, on your coattails.
Just callin it like I see it.
January 18th, 2013 at 12:53 pm
1180.DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:27 am
mcfadden20. Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:26 am
Oakland
The Oakland Raiders lost Kamerion Wimbley and will receive a 4th round pick
The Oakland Raiders lost Michael Bush and will receive a 6th round pick
The Oakland Raiders lost Kevin Boss and will receive a 6th round pick
The Oakland Raiders lost Samson Satele and will receive a 6th round pick
The Oakland Raiders lost Jason Campbell who is cancelled out by Mike Briesel
The Oakland Raiders lost Trevor Scott who is cancelled out by Dave Tollefson
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Great.
Back to the draft board I go.
+++++++++++++++
What? This ain’t right. Is it?
January 18th, 2013 at 12:54 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 12:47 pm
Missed the boat with harbaugh
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There was no boat. Harbaugh saw all the positives across the bay, and wanted nothing to do with Al.
He wouldn’t have coached here for 20 mil a year.
January 18th, 2013 at 12:54 pm
The 1 time in the last 10 years Al’s H/W/S pick would have worked out… 49ers jump up and steal him..
Been that kind of decade.
January 18th, 2013 at 12:54 pm
1267.REALLIONAIREB Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 12:41 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:56 am
1- Damontre Moore [DE/OLB, A&M]
3- Kwame Geathers [NT/DE, Georgia]
4- Omoregie Uzzi [OG, G.Tech]
4- Joseph Fauria [TE, UCLA]
6- DJ Swearinger [S, S.Carolina]
6- Taylor Reed [ILB, SMU]
6- Joe Vellano [DE, Maryland]
6- Miguel Maysonet [RB, Stony Brook]
7- Reid Fragel [RT, Ohio St]
7- Greg Reid [CB/KR, Valdosta]
Game. Blouses.
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Only 1 CB
Don’t know this Greg Reid guy but does he has the game changer like the HoneyBadger???
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Throw Margus Hunt-SMU in there …….
January 18th, 2013 at 12:55 pm
Stanford offensive coordinator Pep Hamilton interviewed today for Oregon’s head coaching position.
A UO source confirmed that athletic director Rob Mullens was in the Bay Area to conduct an interview this morning.
While Hamilton is African-American, the Ducks had already met the state requirement of interviewing a minority candidate, according to a source.
Previous reports indicated that Arizona State defensive coordinator Paul Randolph, also African-American, interviewed with the Ducks.
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this is for Mistic
January 18th, 2013 at 12:55 pm
Even Trestman was able to come in for the Bears and immediately hire a legit OC in Aaron Kromer. It seems no one wants to work for these lame duck weasels Reggie and DA.
Chargers hire McCoy as head coach, already a good offensive move. Then back it up by hiring Whisenhunt as OC. Another legit hire.
The only confirmed interview we hear about is with a guy that was out of the league last year because no one wanted to work with him, in Martz, and who no other team has even considered. So, basically, the only person we could interview is the guy begging to get back in for a job.
Broncos lose McCoy at OC, and promote Gase. Teams know they need to keep gears moving.
We are operating like a second rate organization right now. I dont need MORE time to evaluate Reggie and DA. They both are currently at a “garbage” ranking. They have the opportunity to improve from garbage to mediocre, but are doing nothing to make that happen. I doubt theyll ever improve above mediocre to above average status, and certainly do not belive they are capable of becoming “good” as GM and HC.
Last place in the AFC West in 2013.
#1 pick in 2014.
Just in time for Clowney and Gruden.
Save your energy this season, fellow Raiders fans. Raiders are going to be in last place. Just hope for positive development of some of our younger talent this season until DA is canned.
January 18th, 2013 at 12:55 pm
Compensatory picks are usually allocated during the owners’ meeting after the Super Bowl. I don’t think we get any for guys we cut, like Boss and Wimbley.
January 18th, 2013 at 12:56 pm
Dakota Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 12:53 pm
1180.DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:27 am
mcfadden20. Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:26 am
Oakland
The Oakland Raiders lost Kamerion Wimbley and will receive a 4th round pick
The Oakland Raiders lost Michael Bush and will receive a 6th round pick
The Oakland Raiders lost Kevin Boss and will receive a 6th round pick
The Oakland Raiders lost Samson Satele and will receive a 6th round pick
The Oakland Raiders lost Jason Campbell who is cancelled out by Mike Briesel
The Oakland Raiders lost Trevor Scott who is cancelled out by Dave Tollefson
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Great.
Back to the draft board I go.
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What? This ain’t right. Is it?
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Bush & Satele for sure.
Not sure Wimbley, Boss are since they were cut.
January 18th, 2013 at 12:56 pm
harbaugh wanted al thats why he waited to the last second…he has been here before. probably wanted more money rhan al was willing to give…
January 18th, 2013 at 12:56 pm
The 1 time in the last 10 years Al’s H/W/S pick would have worked out… 49ers jump up and steal him..
Been that kind of decade.
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Yep.. along with Mark not letting HUE finish or continue to build the team.
Or Mark bringing back Gruden before Dennis Allen
January 18th, 2013 at 12:57 pm
Raiders are always missing the boat
Ya think that would be second nature to Pirates??? Just sayin.
January 18th, 2013 at 12:57 pm
harbaugh wanted al thats why he waited to the last second…he has been here before. probably wanted more money rhan al was willing to give…
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Yep should have given his a stake in the team with 25 million
January 18th, 2013 at 12:57 pm
If Reggie was doing a good job people wouldn’t feel compelled to constantly make excuses for him.
January 18th, 2013 at 12:57 pm
jdb spits truth…
January 18th, 2013 at 12:58 pm
NO OC.. no news cuz there is nothing going on in OAKLAND
No team fears the Raiders.. Most legit coaches can out coach Dennis Allen and his staff
January 18th, 2013 at 12:58 pm
Jim Trotter@SI_JimTrotter
Congrats to Pep Hamilton on accepting the Colts offensive coordinator position. #TheRealHU
January 18th, 2013 at 12:59 pm
cards hire an oc…mumbles and da? “whats an oc?”
January 18th, 2013 at 12:59 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 12:47 pm
Marks hair Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 12:46 pm
I’d take Danny we need at least 1 wide receiver with hands. but I’d rather have Jennings
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Too expensive.
Jordan Shipley is the guy.
He and Palmer have history too.
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Shipley is way way down on this list of FA WR’s.
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/01/01/free-agent-wide-receivers/
He’s even further down on Football outsiders list.
I’d rather take Chaz back. I always liked him when healthy (which wasn’t often.)
January 18th, 2013 at 1:00 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 12:56 pm
The 1 time in the last 10 years Al’s H/W/S pick would have worked out… 49ers jump up and steal him..
Been that kind of decade.
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Yep.. along with Mark not letting HUE finish or continue to build the team.
Or Mark bringing back Gruden before Dennis Allen
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Whoa, whoa, whoa…
Id be all for saying let Hue coach the team..
But he did nothing close to build it.. Just about every one of his moves bombed.
January 18th, 2013 at 1:00 pm
Our realities limit who is even in interested in talking to US.
Not missed opportunities- ZERO OPPORTUNITY.
The only candidates we will get is where our job represents a significant PROMOTION from what they presently have.
That is how Gruden became OC in Philly. Not necessarily a bad thing.
BTW
NO COACH. RESEARCH IT. NO COACH WITHOUT ANY PRIOR NFL EXPERIENCE (as a player or coach) HAS EVER STEPPED INTO AN NFL HC JOB AND SUCCEEDED EXCEPT JIMMY JOHNSON.
We will found out if Chip will be number 2 in Philly.
My bet is Howie Roseman is a big problem and Chip will be frustrated just like Reid was with the former attorney.
January 18th, 2013 at 1:00 pm
Wish we could get Ray Horton. Cleveland is frontrunner.
What is this world coming to.
January 18th, 2013 at 1:01 pm
Id be all for saying let Hue coach the team..
But he did nothing close to build it.. Just about every one of his moves bombed.
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Exactly with help from the GM he would be a good Coach. He knew how to use the talent provided
January 18th, 2013 at 1:02 pm
Gdog Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 12:59 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 12:47 pm
Marks hair Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 12:46 pm
I’d take Danny we need at least 1 wide receiver with hands. but I’d rather have Jennings
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Too expensive.
Jordan Shipley is the guy.
He and Palmer have history too.
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Shipley is way way down on this list of FA WR’s.
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/01/01/free-agent-wide-receivers/
He’s even further down on Football outsiders list.
I’d rather take Chaz back. I always liked him when healthy (which wasn’t often.)
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Its not about picking the highest rated player on a list.
Its finding a fit for what we do and need.
We have no slot WR that can move the chains.
January 18th, 2013 at 1:03 pm
Margus Hunt is a monster.
But is more of a luxury we cant afford.
January 18th, 2013 at 1:03 pm
Nah nevermind the coaches.. just pissed Al didnt get to draft COLIN KAEPERNICK
goes to show u he was still ahead of hte NFL.. its just that Harbaugh knew too.
Also his big corners playing man to man is what seattle did this year.
AL DAVIS forever!
January 18th, 2013 at 1:04 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 12:51 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 12:21 pm
This is the same reason that pryor and campbell are so hated here in this forum as well. These are examples of the reflection of the conditions which shape amerikkka.
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Actually Pryor and Campbell aren’t hated on this forum. It’s YOU that’s hated because you keep playing the race card,
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this is not the real kk
this is the cross posting handle hijacking loser that doesnt have the guts to stand behind his own words, even in the anonymity of cyber space.
as evidence I want to resubmit that black people have been in amerikkka since before cristobal colombo, and the may flower, or the nina pinta and santa maria. We helped build the country and have fought in every war.
yet in 244 years only one black man is eleceted president. This is not proof of an absecnce of racism.
I would like to also say for all of the black coaches cand coordiantors that are jnot given the opportunity they dont see race as a card or a game.
Rcae issue is not a card or game, and im certain that those that die as a result of the race hate in this country and abroad dont see it as a game or a card either.
Stating the case and pointing out the issue should never be confused for a game. in fact calling it a game is your attempt at minimizing the issue, and trying to absolve yourself for your own race issue.
January 18th, 2013 at 1:05 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 1:01 pm
Id be all for saying let Hue coach the team..
But he did nothing close to build it.. Just about every one of his moves bombed.
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Exactly with help from the GM he would be a good Coach. He knew how to use the talent provided
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If all he had to do was coach the offense, he is good.
But if it involves talking, media, personnel etc… Horrific.
January 18th, 2013 at 1:05 pm
The Oakland “Last Resort” Raiders….hope we get the best OC out of all the OC’s rejected by other teams!
January 18th, 2013 at 1:06 pm
Hue wouldnt be talking like that if Al was still here or REggie was his boss.
It was like a day at school without hte teacher once he was alone with no GM or BOSS MAN
January 18th, 2013 at 1:07 pm
1305.Gdog Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 12:59 pm
DennisAllensVisor Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 12:47 pm
Marks hair Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 12:46 pm
I’d take Danny we need at least 1 wide receiver with hands. but I’d rather have Jennings
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Too expensive.
Jordan Shipley is the guy.
He and Palmer have history too.
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Shipley is way way down on this list of FA WR’s.
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/01/01/free-agent-wide-receivers/
He’s even further down on Football outsiders list.
I’d rather take Chaz back. I always liked him when healthy (which wasn’t often.)
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On Football Outsiders Chaz is even farther down the list of the 86 receivers listed.
January 18th, 2013 at 1:07 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 1:06 pm
Hue wouldnt be talking like that if Al was still here or REggie was his boss.
It was like a day at school without hte teacher once he was alone with no GM or BOSS MAN
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LOL.. Good analogy..
January 18th, 2013 at 1:08 pm
heghostronin79 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 12:55 pm
Stanford offensive coordinator Pep Hamilton interviewed today for Oregon’s head coaching position.
A UO source confirmed that athletic director Rob Mullens was in the Bay Area to conduct an interview this morning.
While Hamilton is African-American, the Ducks had already met the state requirement of interviewing a minority candidate, according to a source.
Previous reports indicated that Arizona State defensive coordinator Paul Randolph, also African-American, interviewed with the Ducks.
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this is for Mistic
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what is your point?
there are 124 college hc jobs
only 15 black men the job.
again oregon doesnt mean that racism is not an issue
January 18th, 2013 at 1:09 pm
1312….thats what i started to realize as soon as he passed…
January 18th, 2013 at 1:10 pm
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 12:57 pm
If Reggie was doing a good job people wouldn’t feel compelled to constantly make excuses for him
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With Reggie it’s always “yeah…but…yeah…but”.
January 18th, 2013 at 1:10 pm
Al Davis forever!
January 18th, 2013 at 1:10 pm
edward teach Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 12:20 pm
1200.Priesttj12 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:48 am
It’s obvious DA was terrified of Turner coming here it would’ve put him firmly on the backburner in terms of media attraction, credit for any success this team would enjoy.
So he ignored probably the best man for the job outside of Hue Jackson himself. Al Saunders has become the obvious choice if this team wants to acchieve any degree of success out of the gate without having to gradually gain momentum.
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Where do you come up with this stuff? McKenzie is QUOTED AS SAYING that they CONTACTED Norv Turner, and that Norv said he WASN’T INTERESTED in the job. As had been speculated for some time beforehand, Turner went to work for Rob Chudzinski in Cleveland, with whom he had a working relationship in San Diego.
You really have to quit making things up to “validate” your opinions. The rest of us can read, you know.
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Can you read this? This is my opinion man. You tell why would Turner interview with a team he’s NOT interested in working for? His contacting Pryor before the last game and after is obvious he was impressed with his talent. The same talent that impressed our GM. Yet he goes and works with the Browns (nothing wrong there) but it was obvious something turned Turner off in that interview.
My opinion is that was DA and his trepidation wit having such a strong figure on his staff and the reluctance to deal with it. Turner would be a strong personality no question to deny that is naive.
DA would be looked upon as a lameduck as was Tom Cable when Hue was here. And he was concious of that possibility especially if they got off to a slow start.
DA struggled enough as it was last year getting respect from the media. If Norvell was here he would’ve definitely been threatened to some degree. That is not as much of a reach as you might want to believe.
DA saw Turner as a threat IMO………………period
January 18th, 2013 at 1:11 pm
this is not the real kk
this is the cross posting handle hijacking loser that doesnt have the guts to stand behind his own words, even in the anonymity of cyber space.
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Exactly Mistic.
January 18th, 2013 at 1:13 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 1:03 pm
Nah nevermind the coaches.. just pissed Al didnt get to draft COLIN KAEPERNICK
goes to show u he was still ahead of hte NFL.. its just that Harbaugh knew too.
Also his big corners playing man to man is what seattle did this year.
AL DAVIS forever!
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Al was on the brink of a comeback. He forgot more football than most guys ever learned. Too bad he couldnt see it materialize. Even worse that they scrapped what he was REBUILDING, power and speed, for this garbage brand of football. The energy that is the Oakland Raiders feels DEAD right now. Lifeless.
January 18th, 2013 at 1:14 pm
God Bless.
Im out.
January 18th, 2013 at 1:14 pm
Its not about picking the highest rated player on a list.
Its finding a fit for what we do and need.
We have no slot WR that can move the chains.
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Sorry man but if you are that far down on two different lists, you got some problems moving chains.
There should be some “money ball” in this.
And if you don’t like statistics, look at the WRs at the top of the list: C and A Johnson 1 and 2.
Thomas, Decker, Moore, Colston, Bryant, Crabtree, White, Floyd, the two Jones. Cobb, Rice, Jackson…
Basically the all-pro team.
January 18th, 2013 at 1:15 pm
man jdb…you see it too.
January 18th, 2013 at 1:17 pm
Al was on the brink of a comeback. He forgot more football than most guys ever learned. Too bad he couldnt see it materialize. Even worse that they scrapped what he was REBUILDING, power and speed, for this garbage brand of football. The energy that is the Oakland Raiders feels DEAD right now. Lifeless.
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No doubt I wont forget back in 2010 when he traded for Kamerion Wimbley.. Wimbley was a great player for us..even last year.
Its just the cap didnt workout. But dont forget what messed up the CAP. AL never traded for Carson palmer. Nor would he ever
Al didnt trade for Aaron curry and his Rookie mega million dollar deal
January 18th, 2013 at 1:17 pm
The next GM will bring back Raider football.
January 18th, 2013 at 1:18 pm
Mistic the IQ vacuum and his sock puppets are here (notice the people that would agree with him are never around until he starts posting?)
The chances of intelligent debate just reached ZERO.
I will check back later.
January 18th, 2013 at 1:19 pm
Seymour Bush Says
March 15, 2012 at 4:53pm
Greg Knapp will take this offense to the next level, where Pimpin Hue never could. Book it!
January 18th, 2013 at 1:19 pm
I’d rather take Chaz back. I always liked him when healthy (which wasn’t often.)
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On Football Outsiders Chaz is even farther down the list of the 86 receivers listed.
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Way ABOVE Shipley.
PFF had them rated about the same.
January 18th, 2013 at 1:21 pm
Was talking to a friend last night another Raider fan and we both agreed, that this team will NOT win the division next year and be lucky to WIN 5 games with the way things are now.
Teams like Bears and Chargers are hiring coaches Raiders should be looking to hire.
January 18th, 2013 at 1:22 pm
1327.Gdog Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 1:14 pm
Its not about picking the highest rated player on a list.
Its finding a fit for what we do and need.
We have no slot WR that can move the chains.
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Sorry man but if you are that far down on two different lists, you got some problems moving chains.
There should be some “money ball” in this.
And if you don’t like statistics, look at the WRs at the top of the list: C and A Johnson 1 and 2.
Thomas, Decker, Moore, Colston, Bryant, Crabtree, White, Floyd, the two Jones. Cobb, Rice, Jackson…
Basically the all-pro team.
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Draft Ace Sanders = problem solved!
January 18th, 2013 at 1:23 pm
Reggie answering about OC coach search..
Q: How many of them would you say you’ve already talked to? A handful?
McKenzie: “I would say…a few.”
WTF?!, a *few* – you mean like 3 – Saunders, Martz, and Trestman?
Wow – Reggie appears lost.. and food drunk..
January 18th, 2013 at 1:26 pm
1302.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 12:58 pm
NO OC.. no news cuz there is nothing going on in OAKLAND
No team fears the Raiders.. Most legit coaches can out coach Dennis Allen and his staff
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Yep
January 18th, 2013 at 1:28 pm
NFL says hiring of coaches and General Managers reflects “disappointing lack of diversity”
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/18/nfl-says-hiring-of-coaches-reflects-disappointing-lack-of-diversity/
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And then a little know-nothing like Dennis Allen, with a razor thin resume gets a Head Coaching job?
Seriously?
January 18th, 2013 at 1:29 pm
Demontre Moore for 2013 and clowney with the first pick in 2014 it’s gonna be a looong season nation
January 18th, 2013 at 1:30 pm
Breaking News:
It has been revealed through anonymous sources that Reggie Mckenzie catfished Mark Davis. In reality he is Mcdonald’s Grimace not a real GM.
January 18th, 2013 at 1:30 pm
This blog is getting so dang depressing.
I don’t blame the bloggers, I blame the subject matter and issues we are forced to discuss.
January 18th, 2013 at 1:31 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 1:19 pm
Seymour Bush Says
March 15, 2012 at 4:53pm
Greg Knapp will take this offense to the next level, where Pimpin Hue never could. Book it!
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Not Seymour Bush either. Sad sad trolls have nothing better to do than waste their lives. So so funny. Sucks to be them, funny for all of us.
January 18th, 2013 at 1:32 pm
We are letting the man bring us down DJ Johnny!! LOL
January 18th, 2013 at 1:32 pm
If Davis and McK and DA are all about rebuilding and setting a “long term” plan they should just trade CP and DMC and get as many picks as possible.
They need to stop insulting Raider fans football acumen and stop acting like they give a crap about being competitive next year.
January 18th, 2013 at 1:35 pm
1339.ian85 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 1:29 pm
Demontre Moore for 2013 and clowney with the first pick in 2014 it’s gonna be a looong season nation
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They need to trade down from #3 and get more picks. Even if they can get a 2nd or 3rd rounder in next years draft would be wise to go along with Clowney being the Raiders or the Jags #1 pick in 2014
January 18th, 2013 at 1:36 pm
Amendola helped me witn a fantasy title this year and I only had him for 4 games.
January 18th, 2013 at 1:38 pm
more tidbits from Reggies ‘interview’
Q: How do you assess Dennis’ first year, rookie season?
“I like the way he led this team, the way the defense played especially at the end. It was encouraging. I see much better things in the future. I mean, he’s a rookie coach just like I’m a rookie GM. But for a rookie coach, I like the way he led this team.”
Q: How much do you think that affected Brisiel’s play?
McKenzie: “A lot. He couldn’t drive off of it like he would like. But he had a bum ankle. A lot of these guys play through a lot of things.”
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Reggie is in full ‘cover yo azz’ mode … DA is doing well and Brisiel doesn’t suck cuz he had a bum ankle? pullleasse…
Davis needs to hire Ray Anderson like yesterday… so after next years 2-14 he’ll have a new GM ready to go..
January 18th, 2013 at 1:39 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 1:28 pm
NFL says hiring of coaches and General Managers reflects “disappointing lack of diversity”
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/18/nfl-says-hiring-of-coaches-reflects-disappointing-lack-of-diversity/
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And then a little know-nothing like Dennis Allen, with a razor thin resume gets a Head Coaching job?
Seriously?
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Reggie is a racist too?
Who knew?
January 18th, 2013 at 1:40 pm
DKnight007 A trade down works for me I’m down with that we def need to look at all possibilities if no trade down tho take Moore
January 18th, 2013 at 1:41 pm
They need to stop insulting Raider fans football acumen and stop acting like they give a crap about being competitive next year.
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Have to admit…putting on a front that DMAC could run in a ZBS then turning around and saying he’s a north south runner (which we knew all along) is a bit troubling. So you knew this and rolled with Krapp? Are we tanking it for better picks?
Conspiracy!
January 18th, 2013 at 1:42 pm
Admit ur misktakes REGGIE
BRING BACK HUE JACKSON as OC.. give him some extra money as a sorry gift.
Bring back BOB WYLIE who was a stud as OL
man AL has his coaching staff right.
Al Davis forever !!
January 18th, 2013 at 1:43 pm
Does it not seem even more troublesome that it’s really the Raiders who should be the most aggressive in filling out its staff given the importance of evaluation at the Senior Bowl?
DA and the rest of…whatver staff we have, leave tomorrow on a plane going south for a week of preperation in advance of the game.
January 18th, 2013 at 1:43 pm
1347.CDERaider Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 1:38 pm
more tidbits from Reggies ‘interview’
Q: How do you assess Dennis’ first year, rookie season?
“I like the way he led this team, the way the defense played especially at the end. It was encouraging. I see much better things in the future. I mean, he’s a rookie coach just like I’m a rookie GM. But for a rookie coach, I like the way he led this team.”
Q: How much do you think that affected Brisiel’s play?
McKenzie: “A lot. He couldn’t drive off of it like he would like. But he had a bum ankle. A lot of these guys play through a lot of things.”
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Reggie is in full ‘cover yo azz’ mode … DA is doing well and Brisiel doesn’t suck cuz he had a bum ankle? pullleasse…
Davis needs to hire Ray Anderson like yesterday… so after next years 2-14 he’ll have a new GM ready to go..
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That whole Reggie interview was disheartening to say the least.
Lets hope that Anderson guy takes over as President or something and Reggie is just the head of player personnel or something.
Yeah, DA did a helluva job “leading” the team? Oy vey!
teh way the defense played versus a slightly crappier team then they are in the Chiefs?
Troubling….
January 18th, 2013 at 1:45 pm
My Sword is sharp, although I pray it is never needed.
The vast majority of white people do not hate you. You hate yourself and you are your worse enemy.
Look at the newly elected president, he has no black people in high places, just more of the same white devils who want to enslave all of us, black and white.
I pray you find the truth
January 18th, 2013 at 1:46 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 1:30 pm
This blog is getting so dang depressing.
I don’t blame the bloggers, I blame the subject matter and issues we are forced to discuss.
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The strategy seems to be if we complain stridently and repeatedly enough about the past, it will change the future completely.
I know people like this in real life too.
It never seems to work for some reason. shrug
January 18th, 2013 at 1:46 pm
I still think we have alot of talent on offense obviously will still have some holes I just don’t trust this coaching staff to bring it out of them all this ra ra about mumbles not having picks or cap money ya ya heard it all before I get it he was kinda handicapped last year but he gets no pass or excuse for changing the offense and letting DA sign knapp and now there is no excuse for him keeping DA especially with all the proven head coaches and coordinators available he has hitched his wagon to Denise and will soon go down with him after next season when they both get the pink slip clowney 2014
January 18th, 2013 at 1:47 pm
I still think we have alot of talent on offense obviously will still have some holes I just don’t trust this coaching staff to bring it out of them all
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Exactly .. we went from 2011 the future looks bright with the raiders.. and playing exciting football on offense…
to Raiders have no talent, salary cap crap etc. Execuses
January 18th, 2013 at 1:48 pm
1343.jesusraiderjim Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 1:32 pm
We are letting the man bring us down DJ Johnny!! LOL
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We’ve gotta “Fight the Power”.
January 18th, 2013 at 1:49 pm
Damontre Moore is def on the radar – but according to NFP he’s ranked 45th – a 2nd round pick
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/NFPS-Top-200-Draft-Prospects-Version-40.html
January 18th, 2013 at 1:49 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 1:30 pm
This blog is getting so dang depressing.
I don’t blame the bloggers, I blame the subject matter and issues we are forced to discuss.
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There are things that hint at light at the end of the tunnel. lst off, McKenzie is not one to mess around. If guys come here and can’t get it done, they are out of here quickly. It is certainly not business as usual. 2ndly Dennis Allen is absolutely no nonsense. Both of those developments are refreshing after the “something smells fishy around here” culture Randy Moss spoke about.
We have a good QB here. 90% of you don’t see it, but if 90% of you did, I would start worrying. Other than McFadden, I like the running back committee. The offensive line started to play much better later in the year and the receivers are serviceable. One solid addition to the receiving and OLine corps could make a huge impact.
Defensively, again, the team played MUCH better later in the season. With a high draft choice and this being a good crop of DT’s, expect us to take a very good one high. LB has been a sore spot here for years but there was improvement with Burris and Wheeler, and certainly addition by subtraction in getting rid of McClain.
The secondary is the big problem here. Brandian Ross did OK, Joselio Hanson played very well as the nickel corner, but if we don’t take a DL early, expect Milliner early. He would be a VERY welcome addition.
Are we out of the woods? Clearly not. But we do have the situation seemingly being stabilized. That is something that hasn’t happened around here for 10 years.
January 18th, 2013 at 1:50 pm
Gdog is there anything good actually happening in raider land that we should actually be upbeat for we suck and show no signs of getting better while the cross town niners prepare to play for the super bowl being a raider fan is pretty depressing man
January 18th, 2013 at 1:50 pm
Where did Hubert finally take a job?
January 18th, 2013 at 1:51 pm
what is your point?
there are 124 college hc jobs
only 15 black men the job.
again oregon doesnt mean that racism is not an issue
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I just honestly think, that if you examined everybody in the country…..And found the people that are racist to the BONE….I mean, live / breath / eat / sleep / HATE……….
That number would be very small, compared to the people who want to live, and let live. I’m not saying it doesn’t exist in this country, it just may not be this “Doctor Evil” sinister PLOT that you insist that it is. I guess that’s my point.
January 18th, 2013 at 1:52 pm
We have a good QB here. 90% of you don’t see it
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Even if that were true which is im not saying IS or ISNT.. all the more reason to keep the HC that brought him here. Just alot of mis management and waste of a year.
Like the ZBS which reggie admits diddnt fit his best player.. Getting rid of a good coach like bob wylie.
Now they are looking of an OL coach and jay glazers words “high octane OC” well um we had some of that here
January 18th, 2013 at 1:52 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 1:19 pm
Seymour Bush Says
March 15, 2012 at 4:53pm
Greg Knapp will take this offense to the next level, where Pimpin Hue never could. Book it!
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Good work archiving KK.
Give Seymour Bush credit tho. He does tow the company line.
Hind sight is priceless, aint it.
January 18th, 2013 at 1:52 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 1:49 pm
There are things that hint at light at the end of the tunnel. lst off, McKenzie is not one to mess around. If guys come here and can’t get it done, they are out of here quickly. It is certainly not business as usual. 2ndly Dennis Allen is absolutely no nonsense. Both of those developments are refreshing after the “something smells fishy around here” culture Randy Moss spoke about.
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Hopefully, but you people were hating all over Randy Moss for those comments.
But thanks for the hindsight.
January 18th, 2013 at 1:54 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 1:42 pm
Admit ur misktakes REGGIE
BRING BACK HUE JACKSON as OC.. give him some extra money as a sorry gift.
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Jackson WAS the problem. The league knows it which is why he isn’t getting a sniff anywhere. The team fell apart after Hue Jackson became the “man behind the curtain.” The team decided to “not pay attention to the man behind the curtain.” The entire league sees it. Some of the longest tenured, most respected NFL guys like Madden, Ron Wolf and Reggie McKenzie knew it. In fact EVERYONE seems to know it but some of you guys.
January 18th, 2013 at 1:55 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 1:43 pm
Does it not seem even more troublesome that it’s really the Raiders who should be the most aggressive in filling out its staff given the importance of evaluation at the Senior Bowl?
DA and the rest of…whatver staff we have, leave tomorrow on a plane going south for a week of preperation in advance of the game.
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The GM and the HC are cluless. CLUELESS. 4-12 was a fluke. Shoulda been 1-15 or 2-14 at fckn best. Get ready for another year of futility. Next level futility.
January 18th, 2013 at 1:56 pm
2ndly Dennis Allen is absolutely no nonsense. Both
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You mean no common sense.
January 18th, 2013 at 1:56 pm
Jackson WAS the problem. The league knows it which is why he isn’t getting a sniff anywhere. The team fell apart after Hue Jackson became the “man behind the curtain.” The team decided to “not pay attention to the man behind the curtain.” The entire league sees it. Some of the longest tenured, most respected NFL guys like Madden, Ron Wolf and Reggie McKenzie knew it. In fact EVERYONE seems to know it but some of you guys.
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Jackson was the problem when he was by himself and had no BOSS. Actually Reggie is friends with hue and share the same agent. CSN reported that reggie was open to keeping HUE for another year. COrk said it was mark who had him fire hue. IT doesnt matter now.
But Hue as a coach would have been fine for a year and let it play out. Ron wolf is suspect at this time.. wanting his little boy to get a promotion in GB
January 18th, 2013 at 1:58 pm
Here’s how the comeback goes down.
The defense which was # 3 in the league over the last quarter of the season is discovered to be NOT a fluke, but an accurate reflection of where they’re at…it just took a little time to “gel”, along with the fact Seymour and McClain weren’t in there to mess it all up.
They draft a stud d lineman who helps even more and our defense is top 10 (at least).
We also find out it really was Knapp that screwed everything up and the offense has a resurgence due to DMAC running north south. Saunders is OC. Ford back healthy helps the receiving corps and special teams.
Reggie adds key pieces thru free agency here and there by shedding cap money he would have paid to Seymour, Lechler and Kelly.
Problems solved.
12-4.
January 18th, 2013 at 1:59 pm
Adam Caplan@caplannfl
Source said former #Eagles OC Marty Mornhinweg is expected to be named #Jets OC. Interesting fit. WCO.
Retweeted by Vic Tafur
January 18th, 2013 at 2:00 pm
Jackson was the problem when he was by himself and had no BOSS.
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Most people, if they are capable, don’t want a boss. Jackson was able to run the show the way he saw fit. And he ran it off a cliff. There is no denying that.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:00 pm
Most people, if they are capable, don’t want a boss. Jackson was able to run the show the way he saw fit. And he ran it off a cliff. There is no denying that.
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but according to some of u guys here.. he got the best qb since gannon! he threw for 4,000 yards. Cant have it both ways. SO which is it?
January 18th, 2013 at 2:02 pm
Reggie is really nothing more than a scout/personnel guy holding the seat for a GM – 2013 is another cleaning out year and the only ‘hope’ we have for 2013 is a solid draft class, get rid of the bad contracts/players, no more dead money, get way under the salary cap, improve the lines on both sides, fix the front office, and prepare for (drum roll)
2014 : Return of the Raider. The Empire Strikes Back!
I wonder if they’ll be playing in the Rose Bowl that year?
January 18th, 2013 at 2:03 pm
SUP GOOBS
Just droppin in to deposit a big honkin steamy deuce. Enjoy.
KEEPIN IT FO REALZ
January 18th, 2013 at 2:04 pm
but according to some of u guys here.. he got the best qb since gannon! he threw for 4,000 yards. Cant have it both ways. SO which is it?
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Lol, can’t wait to hear the convoluted answer.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:05 pm
CDERaider Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:02 pm
Reggie is really nothing more than a scout/personnel guy holding the seat for a GM – 2013 is another cleaning out year and the only ‘hope’ we have for 2013 is a solid draft class, get rid of the bad contracts/players, no more dead money, get way under the salary cap, improve the lines on both sides, fix the front office, and prepare for (drum roll)
2014 : Return of the Raider. The Empire Strikes Back!
I wonder if they’ll be playing in the Rose Bowl that year?
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Can’t tell you how bad I wish Darth Vader coached this fcking team.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:06 pm
3 STOOGES
http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/large_lightbox/hash/10/13/10132d89933aba56a48fe3f4c71f9a31.jpg
January 18th, 2013 at 2:07 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:00 pm
Most people, if they are capable, don’t want a boss. Jackson was able to run the show the way he saw fit. And he ran it off a cliff. There is no denying that.
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but according to some of u guys here.. he got the best qb since gannon! he threw for 4,000 yards. Cant have it both ways. SO which is it?
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Hue’s GM skills are one thing. His head coaching and playcalling skills are another. I think both speak for themselves since he is doing neither at this level.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:09 pm
Hue’s GM skills are one thing. His head coaching and playcalling skills are another. I think both speak for themselves since he is doing neither at this level.
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Ya but he wouldnt be GM.. and he would have his DC working the defense with reggies help.. he would focus on the offense and building around the best qb since Gannon? so was that trade part of running hte team of the cliff.. giving up 1 and 2 was way to much we all know.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:10 pm
Plunketthead Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 1:45 pm
My Sword is sharp, although I pray it is never needed.
The vast majority of white people do not hate you. You hate yourself and you are your worse enemy.
Look at the newly elected president, he has no black people in high places, just more of the same white devils who want to enslave all of us, black and white.
I pray you find the truth
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i dont see your point
i have posted on the fact that no black men were hired as hc through 8 vacancies. I have stated that this is a long standing issue.
how is this self hate?
January 18th, 2013 at 2:10 pm
ian85 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 1:50 pm
Gdog is there anything good actually happening in raider land that we should actually be upbeat for we suck and show no signs of getting better while the cross town niners prepare to play for the super bowl being a raider fan is pretty depressing man
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I went through this last night with someone else.
I think there are plenty of things to be hopeful about. For the first time in a decade we don’t have to worry about QB. CP has proven when he is playing out of the no-huddle he is a top-5 QB! Knapp didn’t like to do it because then he didn’t get to call his moronic plays (mostly McF up the gut). The o-line that played so well two seasons ago can be upgraded easily with a blue-chip rookie. There are some interesting FA WR’s that are rated well that could be brought in under our cap… I just mentioned two above. The defense actually played well at the end of the season… and the secondary can be fixed through the draft and FA. The line is fine, IMO. Allen already fixed our penalty problems for the most part. Plus he is no longer a rookie so less rookie mistakes (no backup long snapper, etc)
And even if we don’t hire an outside OC, Saunders already knows how to get McF going.
The STS coach could be one of us, and be an upgrade.
I see a TON to be hopeful about! Best hope in a decade.
But if its more pleasing to you to whine and moan and cry that the sky has fallen… knock yourself out!
January 18th, 2013 at 2:10 pm
Mark blew it when he fired Hue. We went from 8-8 with promise to a pathetic 4-12 with gloom. Thats a fact Allen sack lickers need to come to terms with.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:11 pm
well if the chiefs were half as good as they were suppose to be this year.. Raiders might have went 3-13
January 18th, 2013 at 2:12 pm
We must be waiting on some of the staff from the four remaining teams. Either way 2013 the year for no more excuses, at least an “honest” run for the playoffs, NATION accepts nothing less!
January 18th, 2013 at 2:13 pm
how would u guys feel if Reggie brought back HUE Jackson as OC???
January 18th, 2013 at 2:14 pm
If DA and Reg don’t have the balls to run this team right, they can borrow mine. They are big and silky. They are balls of steel. Maybe I shouldn’t loan them to them, I might not get them back.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:15 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:09 pm
Hue’s GM skills are one thing. His head coaching and playcalling skills are another. I think both speak for themselves since he is doing neither at this level.
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Ya but he wouldnt be GM.. and he would have his DC working the defense with reggies help.. he would focus on the offense and building around the best qb since Gannon? so was that trade part of running hte team of the cliff.. giving up 1 and 2 was way to much we all know.
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You can’t play the woulda should coulda game. If we drafted Calvin Johnson and Detroit took Jamarcus Russell maybe Russell wins four straight Super Bowls and Calvin Johnson is out of the league. Who the fukk knows? How good would Johnson be with Andrew Walter and Aaron Brooks, no oline and no running game? Impossible to predict. You are going under the assumption that we had a lst and a 2nd who come here and play like lsts and 2nds. When was the last time that happened?
January 18th, 2013 at 2:15 pm
How.
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We spendum lotta time watching Raiders at casino and drinkum much fire water.
Speaking of strippers, I haveum cute squaw’s waiting for me back at teepee.
But first…you guessed it, I mustem dumpem huge deuce back at outhouse.
STRAIGHT BALLIN FROM THE PLAINS!
January 18th, 2013 at 2:15 pm
Raiderjambo Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:12 pm
We must be waiting on some of the staff from the four remaining teams.
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That seems to make sense.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:16 pm
i love the cowards who come in here under handles we’ve never (or rarely) seen and spout off stupidity, only to disappear. chicken sh1ts.
who exactly are all the allen sack lickers? who is in here always talking up allen and reggie?
uh. no one. only reasonable fans who know the game, and get the fact that we have to give it another year. no way around it. i’m very much on the fence. i’ve seen and heard a lot of stuff that gives me a poor impression. but i’ve also seen and heard some good stuff that makes me think there’s some hope.
here’s a good one. why are most of the guys who are making excuses for pryor’s poor passing, and saying he needs more time, the same guys who keep saying how the head coach and gm need to be dumped so soon, without any excuses?
hypocrisy knows no limits. that’s why they are hypocrites. if they had sense, they wouldn’t be hypocrites to begin with.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:16 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:13 pm
how would u guys feel if Reggie brought back HUE Jackson as OC???
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If we knew Hue would be scheming behind Allens back and was gonna launch a coup, then I’d be all for it.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:16 pm
You can’t play the woulda should coulda game. If we drafted Calvin Johnson and Detroit took Jamarcus Russell maybe Russell wins four straight Super Bowls and Calvin Johnson is out of the league. Who the fukk knows? How good would Johnson be with Andrew Walter and Aaron Brooks, no oline and no running game? Impossible to predict. You are going under the assumption that we had a lst and a 2nd who come here and play like lsts and 2nds. When was the last time that happened?
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u could easily play that from last year.. not 2007 though.
I bet Palmer would be playing at a higher level with HUE then now and another year in his offense.
and we would have gotten to see the real DMAC paired up with Carson
January 18th, 2013 at 2:17 pm
theghostronin79 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 1:51 pm
what is your point?
there are 124 college hc jobs
only 15 black men the job.
again oregon doesnt mean that racism is not an issue
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I just honestly think, that if you examined everybody in the country…..And found the people that are racist to the BONE….I mean, live / breath / eat / sleep / HATE……….
That number would be very small, compared to the people who want to live, and let live. I’m not saying it doesn’t exist in this country, it just may not be this “Doctor Evil” sinister PLOT that you insist that it is. I guess that’s my point.
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i hear and I respect your stance if you are an anti racist.
However I would counter the ‘good white folks” theory by pointing out that by failing to challenge or end the status quo you are complicit in the crime.
just as we have seen racist crap and attacks against black people on this forum and all of the so called ‘good white folks’ that claim they are not racist do absolutely nothing to stop it.
yet those same silent posters jump all over the first black man that points out racism.
I would say your take is only partially true. though i dont believe most Caucasians are cross burning clan members, most caucasians are quite comfortable with the way things are and benefit as a result. Thus they cant be counted on to undo what is in play.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:18 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:13 pm
how would u guys feel if Reggie brought back HUE Jackson as OC??
Can’t be any worse than the idiot we just canned. At least with Hue our “O” was more exciting to watch, and a little bit less predictable!
January 18th, 2013 at 2:18 pm
“Today in Raider history on January 18, 2011 AL DAVIS introduced Hue Jackson as the Oakland Raiders Head Coach. “
January 18th, 2013 at 2:20 pm
dr_robert Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:16 pm
i love the cowards who come in here under handles we’ve never (or rarely) seen and spout off stupidity, only to disappear. chicken sh1ts.
who exactly are all the allen sack lickers? who is in here always talking up allen and reggie?
uh. no one. only reasonable fans who know the game, and get the fact that we have to give it another year. no way around it. i’m very much on the fence. i’ve seen and heard a lot of stuff that gives me a poor impression. but i’ve also seen and heard some good stuff that makes me think there’s some hope.
here’s a good one. why are most of the guys who are making excuses for pryor’s poor passing, and saying he needs more time, the same guys who keep saying how the head coach and gm need to be dumped so soon, without any excuses?
hypocrisy knows no limits. that’s why they are hypocrites. if they had sense, they wouldn’t be hypocrites to begin with.
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Say wha? You ever watch Pryor practice? The dude can throw it. My guess he was a little nervous and tentative with out game reps. Give him 4 or 5 games at the start and then tell me he cant sling it. I’ll bring the crow if I’m wrong, but hold back on judgement till he’s had a few games. He’s got all the tangibles, and you know it.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:20 pm
dr_robert Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:16 pm
i love the cowards who come in here under handles we’ve never (or rarely) seen and spout off stupidity, only to disappear. chicken sh1ts.
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It’s actually just that beech dawg idiot and one of his friends. Talk about NO life. They come here all afternoon, all night, posting idiocy. No one reads it. No one cares.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:21 pm
From the N-if L
http://www.nfl.com/videos/n-if-l/0ap2000000127955/N-if-L-What-if-RG3-was-drafted-by-the-Raiders?campaign=Twitter_nifL
RG III to Oakland – very creative…
January 18th, 2013 at 2:21 pm
more hires around the league…lol…this is getting funny…
January 18th, 2013 at 2:23 pm
Dang. I thought Morninwheg might be a good choice for OC.
Maybe it’s just me getting desperate.
Which brings up another issue. Why should we be feeling desperate?
Does everything have to suck in Raiderland…ALL THE TIME?
Give us some good news for once. Is that too much to ask?
January 18th, 2013 at 2:23 pm
Since Reggie is not dealing DMAC, this sounds crazy but I wonder if DMAC would consider a contract extension? He might be amicable since he’s coming off a bad season, still has the injury problem and likely won’t command jack squat on the open market in 2014, even if anything at all with all the RB talent that’s out there.
If we could renegotiate his contract to give him like a back-loaded 3 year extension (3 yr/15 mill) instead of having to give him 8.5 mill just for next year – it would significantly help the 2013 cap situation and I still think in the right system (power), with the right rotational backup (LaGarrete Blount/Peyton Hillis) he’s a great weapon to have – even if you’re only getting 12 games a year out of him..
January 18th, 2013 at 2:23 pm
mark davis could really redeem himself and admit his mistake.. be a man.
Get hue jackson on the phone and try to be civil and come to an agreement on whats best for this football team.
Reggie and hue already share the same agent.. Mark should tell Reggie.. get ur agent and call ur boy about comiing back.
This crap is getting old. Freaking OLSON from the JAGS? lmao really? Greg Knapp last year?? really???
January 18th, 2013 at 2:23 pm
Gdog Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 1:39 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 1:28 pm
NFL says hiring of coaches and General Managers reflects “disappointing lack of diversity”
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/18/nfl-says-hiring-of-coaches-reflects-disappointing-lack-of-diversity/
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And then a little know-nothing like Dennis Allen, with a razor thin resume gets a Head Coaching job?
Seriously?
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Reggie is a racist too?
Who knew?
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i bet missdick calls his mom racist when she makes him eat his vegetables.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:25 pm
Norv Turner basically said NO WAY to the raiders which im sure guys like Ken Wizhenhunt said also
Nbody giving Hue Jackson looks as OC but this is what im talking about.
HUE JACKSON was right for the RAIDERS. A creative OC who isnt getting looks from the NFL.. while the Raiders are not getting any looks from legit OC’s
I’d still take Hue Jax as an OC over most of these guys
January 18th, 2013 at 2:27 pm
Al Davis forever.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:28 pm
Are the Raiders the last team in the NFL to hire their OC?
January 18th, 2013 at 2:29 pm
Maybe we’re waiting for some OCs to get canned after OTAs. If Big Reg and DA knew how to go about getting a legit OC, we’d have one by now. Maybe Green Bay hid their dumpster. Who knows.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:29 pm
CDERaider Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:23 pm
Since Reggie is not dealing DMAC, this sounds crazy but I wonder if DMAC would consider a contract extension? He might be amicable since he’s coming off a bad season, still has the injury problem and likely won’t command jack squat on the open market in 2014, even if anything at all with all the RB talent that’s out there.
If we could renegotiate his contract to give him like a back-loaded 3 year extension (3 yr/15 mill) instead of having to give him 8.5 mill just for next year – it would significantly help the 2013 cap situation and I still think in the right system (power), with the right rotational backup (LaGarrete Blount/Peyton Hillis) he’s a great weapon to have – even if you’re only getting 12 games a year out of him..
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Great suggestion. Just hope Reggie is on the same page thinking wise.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:30 pm
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/18/nfl-says-hiring-of-coaches-reflects-disappointing-lack-of-diversity/
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funny how national media outlets publish stories that say the “the lack of diversity in coaching is disappointing”, yet somehow i take the blame?
I dont work for pff
I dont work for espn
If these were not real issues then be upset with them for saying it does on a national platform.
i didnt create the race issue but i will point it out when i see it.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:30 pm
“JUST WIN BABY!”
January 18th, 2013 at 2:31 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:17 pm
theghostronin79 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 1:51 pm
what is your point?
there are 124 college hc jobs
only 15 black men the job.
again oregon doesnt mean that racism is not an issue
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I just honestly think, that if you examined everybody in the country…..And found the people that are racist to the BONE….I mean, live / breath / eat / sleep / HATE……….
That number would be very small, compared to the people who want to live, and let live. I’m not saying it doesn’t exist in this country, it just may not be this “Doctor Evil” sinister PLOT that you insist that it is. I guess that’s my point.
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i hear and I respect your stance if you are an anti racist.
However I would counter the ‘good white folks” theory by pointing out that by failing to challenge or end the status quo you are complicit in the crime.
just as we have seen racist crap and attacks against black people on this forum and all of the so called ‘good white folks’ that claim they are not racist do absolutely nothing to stop it.
yet those same silent posters jump all over the first black man that points out racism.
I would say your take is only partially true. though i dont believe most Caucasians are cross burning clan members, most caucasians are quite comfortable with the way things are and benefit as a result. Thus they cant be counted on to undo what is in play.
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this is the kinda garbage that leads the 9 11 attackers to laugh and say “there were no innocent people in those buildings. they’re all westerners who are complicit.
this is the way for his hatred to know no limit. there have been posters who have attacked the white guys when they say racist stuff, and he knows it. i rake fangs more than him when he’s here.
u see, it’s ok for hi to be a bigot, cuz he’s “fighting the white racism”. it’s idiotic excuses. the little man is a bigot thru and thru.
and he claims he never mentions skin color. it’s all of us who keep bringing it up. but this post sure has a lot of references to skin color.
“racism is schism on a serious tip”
January 18th, 2013 at 2:32 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:25 pm
Norv Turner basically said NO WAY to the raiders which im sure guys like Ken Wizhenhunt said also
Nbody giving Hue Jackson looks as OC but this is what im talking about.
HUE JACKSON was right for the RAIDERS. A creative OC who isnt getting looks from the NFL.. while the Raiders are not getting any looks from legit OC’s
I’d still take Hue Jax as an OC over most of these guys
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hue jack interviewed for the carolina oc gig, he was in the running with mike shula who was Carolina qb coach last year
January 18th, 2013 at 2:33 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:30 pm
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/18/nfl-says-hiring-of-coaches-reflects-disappointing-lack-of-diversity/
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funny how national media outlets publish stories that say the “the lack of diversity in coaching is disappointing”, yet somehow i take the blame?
I dont work for pff
I dont work for espn
If these were not real issues then be upset with them for saying it does on a national platform.
i didnt create the race issue but i will point it out when i see it.
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i will agree with this. the lack of black coaches is still troubling.
how about doug williams? super bowl winner. success as a head coach. can’t get hired at any bigger schools.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:33 pm
i hear and I respect your stance if you are an anti racist.
However I would counter the ‘good white folks” theory by pointing out that by failing to challenge or end the status quo you are complicit in the crime.
just as we have seen racist crap and attacks against black people on this forum and all of the so called ‘good white folks’ that claim they are not racist do absolutely nothing to stop it.
yet those same silent posters jump all over the first black man that points out racism.
I would say your take is only partially true. though i dont believe most Caucasians are cross burning clan members, most caucasians are quite comfortable with the way things are and benefit as a result. Thus they cant be counted on to undo what is in play.
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You are correct in that I am anti racist. I know nothing else, having been born on an Air Force base into a mixing pot of ethnicities, and subsequently joined the Marine Corps myself. So, I think my upbringing had alot to do with it but, when you make comments like the one that prompted my first response, it seems like you’re inviting the attacks. I mean honestly man, for real, I think most people that take shots at you, do so because they don’t like how you present your case. Not neccessarily cause they’re being racist against you. I think it’s a personal attack more than racial. I dunno man, I read alot in here. That’s just what it seems to me.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:34 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:23 pm
mark davis could really redeem himself and admit his mistake.. be a man.
Get hue jackson on the phone and try to be civil and come to an agreement on whats best for this football team.
Reggie and hue already share the same agent.. Mark should tell Reggie.. get ur agent and call ur boy about comiing back.
This crap is getting old. Freaking OLSON from the JAGS? lmao really? Greg Knapp last year?? really???
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Take your head out of your ass, dumbass. I know I say 8-8 is twice as good as 4-12, but I just make that stupid comment to annoy you pootbutts. Bill Walsh was 2-14 his first year. If we go by your statement, he would have been fired after the first year.
Hue was a pompous little blowhard who failed the team, and lost the team. He lied to the team, the fans, and the media. You’re just wanting Hue because you’re a sheep.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:34 pm
why don’t u knuckleheads wait and see who is hired before u complain?
see it thru.
and no former raider coaches are coming back. that almost never happens.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:36 pm
Dr_robert Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:16 pm
i love the cowards who come in here under handles we’ve never (or rarely) seen and spout off stupidity, only to disappear. chicken sh1ts.
who exactly are all the allen sack lickers? who is in here always talking up allen and reggie?
uh. no one. only reasonable fans who know the game, and get the fact that we have to give it another year. no way around it. i’m very much on the fence. i’ve seen and heard a lot of stuff that gives me a poor impression. but i’ve also seen and heard some good stuff that makes me think there’s some hope.
here’s a good one. why are most of the guys who are making excuses for pryor’s poor passing, and saying he needs more time, the same guys who keep saying how the head coach and gm need to be dumped so soon, without any excuses?
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Honestly, I don’t think everyone here is in agreement on keeping Pryor on as QB. I think he has a shot at it IF AND ONLY IF he works his tail off AND creates result by working on his throwing mechanics and his foundational footwork. There’s a few who wants to keep TP in a different position. I’m not making excuses for TP; I watched that last SD game and thought, “oh no we’re pulling a Tebow.”
What quality OC in their sound right mind would accept the job here? They know DA is in the hot seat right now and may or may not last an entire season from here out. Of course they’ll sign up with the recently hired HC who has a clean slate to share. At this point so long as they re-sign Wylie for OL or Castillo, I’ll resign myself to indifferent satisfaction. BTW, if God forbid Martz is to become OC, they’d BETTER get Wylie to coach OL!!!
January 18th, 2013 at 2:36 pm
Theghostronin79 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:33 pm
i hear and I respect your stance if you are an anti racist.
However I would counter the ‘good white folks” theory by pointing out that by failing to challenge or end the status quo you are complicit in the crime.
just as we have seen racist crap and attacks against black people on this forum and all of the so called ‘good white folks’ that claim they are not racist do absolutely nothing to stop it.
yet those same silent posters jump all over the first black man that points out racism.
I would say your take is only partially true. though i dont believe most Caucasians are cross burning clan members, most caucasians are quite comfortable with the way things are and benefit as a result. Thus they cant be counted on to undo what is in play.
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You are correct in that I am anti racist. I know nothing else, having been born on an Air Force base into a mixing pot of ethnicities, and subsequently joined the Marine Corps myself. So, I think my upbringing had alot to do with it but, when you make comments like the one that prompted my first response, it seems like you’re inviting the attacks. I mean honestly man, for real, I think most people that take shots at you, do so because they don’t like how you present your case. Not neccessarily cause they’re being racist against you. I think it’s a personal attack more than racial. I dunno man, I read alot in here. That’s just what it seems to me.
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BINGO!
but that’s how he wants it. he really craves division and “us vs. them”.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:36 pm
1350.The Big Banana Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 1:41 pm
They need to stop insulting Raider fans football acumen and stop acting like they give a crap about being competitive next year.
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Have to admit…putting on a front that DMAC could run in a ZBS then turning around and saying he’s a north south runner (which we knew all along) is a bit troubling. So you knew this and rolled with Krapp? Are we tanking it for better picks?
Conspiracy!
^^^^^^^^
Hypocrisy, stubborness and stupidity is not a good combo when it comes to GM’s and head coaches.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:37 pm
Take your head out of your ass, dumbass. I know I say 8-8 is twice as good as 4-12, but I just make that stupid comment to annoy you pootbutts. Bill Walsh was 2-14 his first year. If we go by your statement, he would have been fired after the first year.
Hue was a pompous little blowhard who failed the team, and lost the team. He lied to the team, the fans, and the media. You’re just wanting Hue because you’re a sheep.
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DA didnt run the offense. He lied to his team.. u mean to the qb who u guys all made fun of like Jason Campbell.. he went out and got PALMER .. the guy who all you guys love ..best qb since gannon. Tried to improve them
January 18th, 2013 at 2:38 pm
Kell, calm down there old buddy, and put that bottle of Chlostenberg Schiller away, it seems to make you angry when you hit it.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:38 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:21 pm
more hires around the league…lol…this is getting funny…
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If there is one thing we know about McKenzie it is that he is VERY deliberate in what he does. Why that is somehow a shock, or funny, I don’t understand.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:39 pm
Dr. slob your routine is tired.
I know you dont like for me to point out your racist ways, but that is too bad.
Please explain how acknowledging the race issue as it pertains to head coaches makes me a bigot.
Is mike florio or roger goodel a bigot for making the same acknowledgment?
you have posted some of the most racist things on this board, and everybody knows it.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:39 pm
Wow koolkell U trying to say Denise will be like walsh lmfao get real old fart Denise sucks dck hue could atleast run a offense we will get stuck with a crap oc and tits and mumbles will be fired at the end of the year bank it they both suck and so does mark Davis for firing hue
January 18th, 2013 at 2:39 pm
Jets just hired Marty Mornhinweg as offensive coordinator, Panthers promoted QBs coach Mike Shula to offensive coordinator and the Colts hired former Stanford OC Pep Hamilton as offensive coordinator…and that leaves us?
S.O.L.!!!!
WAKE THE FUK UP REGGIE!!!!
January 18th, 2013 at 2:40 pm
Cam Cameron would be nice.. but maybe he said no thank to the Raiders?
Carmichael went back to the aints
January 18th, 2013 at 2:40 pm
Stop with this racist crap.
You earn the job, you get the job.
For every head coaching job in college, 10,000 different men feel they can do the job. 175 are hired. Doesn’t matter how many are white or black or brown or yellow.
Either you have proven you can do it, or you haven’t.
Reality says those who are passed over just haven’t earned it.
PERIOD.
Of course that messes with the racist agenda of the wee widdle losers who blame whitey for everything.
I hate being black, sometimes. Except for affirmative action, of course.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:40 pm
1390.Chief Tomahawk Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:15 pm
How.
Allow me to introduce myself. My name is Chief Tomahawk. I hail from the wompum tribe. We heap big Raider fans. We have Raider shield on toppum totem pole.
We spendum lotta time watching Raiders at casino and drinkum much fire water.
Speaking of strippers, I haveum cute squaw’s waiting for me back at teepee.
But first…you guessed it, I mustem dumpem huge deuce back at outhouse.
STRAIGHT BALLIN FROM THE PLAINS!
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I think I know this guy!
January 18th, 2013 at 2:40 pm
Speaking of OC retreads.. What about Mike Tice as OC? Trestman just fired the whole Bears staff. Tice kind of reminds of Tom Cable in stature/attitude. Def a guy that doesn’t take any shiite.. Would prob overshadow DA.. as if that’s difficult.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:41 pm
very deliberate…especially when ordering breakfast
January 18th, 2013 at 2:42 pm
HI EVERYONE.
Thanks for having me. My name is Frodo Baggens and I live in Middle Earth. We don’t have televisions here, so I can’t always watch the Raiders. I have to sneak in at the Prancing Pony Inn to catch the game. I even grab a beer while I’m there.
But when I get back to my hole in the ground, which is very nice by the way, I always have two or three little hobbit chicks waiting for me in the sack. They might be hairy with big feet, but they know how to rumble and tumble. Thats why I rarely catch any games cuz I can’t get out of bed. These little hairy hobbit chicks are insatiable. They wear my lawg out.
Only time I get a break is when I have to go and uncork a monster deuce. Usually takes a while cuz hobbits eat 8 meals a day, so we store up a lot of poo poo.
Thanks for having me here. Go Raiders.
HOLLA FO DA BALLA
January 18th, 2013 at 2:42 pm
1427.r8eray Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:39 pm
Jets just hired Marty Mornhinweg as offensive coordinator, Panthers promoted QBs coach Mike Shula to offensive coordinator and the Colts hired former Stanford OC Pep Hamilton as offensive coordinator…and that leaves us?
S.O.L.!!!!
WAKE THE FUK UP REGGIE!!!!
^^^^^^^^^
Mike Shul as OC ahead of Hue Jack on Carolina?
Mistake by Rivera on that one. I can continuity maybe important, but Shula is not a good play caller
January 18th, 2013 at 2:42 pm
When Norv Turner – who lives in CA btw – says ‘no thanks’ to even an interview as OC – and then takes an OC in Cleveland?
You know you got problems.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:43 pm
At this point, I would accept Cam Cameron as OC also.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:43 pm
Jay Glazer@JayGlazer
Raider expected to promote Wide Reciver Coach Ted Gilmore as Offensive Coordinator
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Boom! and there it is!
January 18th, 2013 at 2:43 pm
CDERaider Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:40 pm
Speaking of OC retreads.. What about Mike Tice as OC? Trestman just fired the whole Bears staff. Tice kind of reminds of Tom Cable in stature/attitude. Def a guy that doesn’t take any shiite.. Would prob overshadow DA.. as if that’s difficult.
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Prior Head Coaching experience? Might not be a bad choice.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:45 pm
CDERaider Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:40 pm
Speaking of OC retreads.. What about Mike Tice as OC? Trestman just fired the whole Bears staff. Tice kind of reminds of Tom Cable in stature/attitude. Def a guy that doesn’t take any shiite.. Would prob overshadow DA.. as if that’s difficult.
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To brilliant and logical of a choice. It would be to wise of a move. It would be a great move. Ain’t gonna happen.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:45 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:39 pm
you have posted some of the most racist things on this board, and everybody knows it
=====================
While YOU have posted not some of the most racist things, but THE MOST RACIST THINGS ON THIS BOARD.
You bring all us brothers down. For every successful black man who’s made it on their own, there are those like you, who blame everyone but themselves for their failures.
You have no idea what racism is, except what you saw on Roots. REAL RACISM, NOT YOUR OPINION OF WHAT YOU CONSIDER RACIST.
In reality, you’re a nobody.
I suspect you know that.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:46 pm
really? gilmore? get some cosigners on this…
January 18th, 2013 at 2:47 pm
CDERaider Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:42 pm
When Norv Turner – who lives in CA btw – says ‘no thanks’ to even an interview as OC – and then takes an OC in Cleveland?
You know you got problems.
Ever remember a season when our beloved RAIDERS didn’t have problems?
January 18th, 2013 at 2:47 pm
theghostronin79 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:33 pm
i hear and I respect your stance if you are an anti racist.
However I would counter the ‘good white folks” theory by pointing out that by failing to challenge or end the status quo you are complicit in the crime.
just as we have seen racist crap and attacks against black people on this forum and all of the so called ‘good white folks’ that claim they are not racist do absolutely nothing to stop it.
yet those same silent posters jump all over the first black man that points out racism.
I would say your take is only partially true. though i dont believe most Caucasians are cross burning clan members, most caucasians are quite comfortable with the way things are and benefit as a result. Thus they cant be counted on to undo what is in play.
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You are correct in that I am anti racist. I know nothing else, having been born on an Air Force base into a mixing pot of ethnicities, and subsequently joined the Marine Corps myself. So, I think my upbringing had alot to do with it but, when you make comments like the one that prompted my first response, it seems like you’re inviting the attacks. I mean honestly man, for real, I think most people that take shots at you, do so because they don’t like how you present your case. Not neccessarily cause they’re being racist against you. I think it’s a personal attack more than racial. I dunno man, I read alot in here. That’s just what it seems to me.
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My original post was not about attacks on me.
My original post was that black coaches are not getting the same opportunities as their whit counterparts and this is a known issue.
this is truth nothing more. You may not believe that racism exist in sports but that doesnt make it untrue.
If pointing out racism ‘invites attacks’ then i think those attackers should examine their own personal feelings intentions and psychology.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:47 pm
Dennis Allen’s criteria for an Offensive Coordinator
1) No former head coaches
2) No one with head coaching aspirations
3) No one with a personality
4) No previous experience as an OC at any level
5) Must accept league minimum salary
6) Willing to praise him and fall on any sword when asked to
January 18th, 2013 at 2:47 pm
If there is one thing we know about McKenzie it is that he is VERY deliberate in what he does. Why that is somehow a shock, or funny, I don’t understand.
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Is that why it takes him so long to order off the menu at IHOP? Now I get it. Keep towing the company line. Somebody has to.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:48 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:39 pm
Dr. slob your routine is tired.
I know you dont like for me to point out your racist ways, but that is too bad.
Please explain how acknowledging the race issue as it pertains to head coaches makes me a bigot.
Is mike florio or roger goodel a bigot for making the same acknowledgment?
you have posted some of the most racist things on this board, and everybody knows it.
********
see, this is why people can’t stand u. ur a liar. so, u have no cred.
i’ve never said a racist thing here. and u know it. i HAVE made some jokes and anyone with a sense of humor would know they were spoofing racism, especially since i said it.
i’ve also posted a ton of things that are anti-racism. u know this too. but u like to say that no matter what i actually SAY, u know my “secret agenda”. which is what the clan always tried to do when they secretly knew blacks were after their women.
how many people here accused of racism vehemently deny it? just me. most don’t argue cuz they probably are, including u.
ur an under-educated, self righteous stooge bigot.
1) i have no problem with the read option or pistol. i like the pistol quite a bit. i think less of the read option.
2) i think black qb’s are cool. i loved brooks and culpepper. i love freeman, and all the new wavers are good. just not pryor (as a wr, yes).
3) i’m “pro-black”. been called a “nig-ger lover many, many times.
4) i don’t like u. ur a bigot. ur anti-white. ur divisive and hateful. ur dishonest. u lie.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:48 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:43 pm
Jay Glazer@JayGlazer
Raider expected to promote Wide Reciver Coach Ted Gilmore as Offensive Coordinator
——————
Boom! and there it is!
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Gilmore is a very well respected receivers coach. One of the best in the country. But I don’t believe he has called plays at any level. I would think this is some type of joke.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:49 pm
CDERaider Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:47 pm
Dennis Allen’s criteria for an Offensive Coordinator
1) No former head coaches
2) No one with head coaching aspirations
3) No one with a personality
4) No previous experience as an OC at any level
5) Must accept league minimum salary
6) Willing to praise him and fall on any sword when asked to
____________________________________________
Knapp comes to mind. Oh wait, he has OC experience.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:49 pm
Ted Gilmore? Boy, he must feel special, knowing everyone who was offered the job declined.
Bottom of the barrel decision.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:49 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:43 pm
Jay Glazer@JayGlazer
Raider expected to promote Wide Reciver Coach Ted Gilmore as Offensive Coordinator
——————
Boom! and there it is!
…….
this figures… I said a few days ago it would be someone out of left field that nobody has ever heard of.
these guys just can’t help themselves. f’n idiots
January 18th, 2013 at 2:49 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:43 pm
CDERaider Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:40 pm
Speaking of OC retreads.. What about Mike Tice as OC? Trestman just fired the whole Bears staff. Tice kind of reminds of Tom Cable in stature/attitude. Def a guy that doesn’t take any shiite.. Would prob overshadow DA.. as if that’s difficult.
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Prior Head Coaching experience? Might not be a bad choice.
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i don’t care for tice.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:50 pm
i don’t like u. ur a bigot. ur anti-white. ur divisive and hateful. ur dishonest. u lie.
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He’s got you pegged on those mistic.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:50 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:46 pm
really? gilmore? get some cosigners on this…
********
same guy posted the mularkey about mularkey yesterday.
fake tweet.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:50 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:45 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:39 pm
you have posted some of the most racist things on this board, and everybody knows it
=====================
While YOU have posted not some of the most racist things, but THE MOST RACIST THINGS ON THIS BOARD.
You bring all us brothers down. For every successful black man who’s made it on their own, there are those like you, who blame everyone but themselves for their failures.
You have no idea what racism is, except what you saw on Roots. REAL RACISM, NOT YOUR OPINION OF WHAT YOU CONSIDER RACIST.
In reality, you’re a nobody.
I suspect you know that.
================
post as yourself
How can you possibly admonish another man for stating his own beliefs when you pretend to be some else all together?
fake kell = zero cred
January 18th, 2013 at 2:50 pm
Nah man Im just playing with u guys. NO TED GILMORE..
had to loosen up everyone around here..
I REPEAT TED GILMORE IS NOT GOING TO BE OC
January 18th, 2013 at 2:51 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:46 pm
really? gilmore? get some cosigners on this…
_______________________________________
Another one of Reggie and Allens deliberate calculated move to get the best or ‘right guy’ for their team. Not good.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:51 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:47 pm
theghostronin79 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:33 pm
i hear and I respect your stance if you are an anti racist.
However I would counter the ‘good white folks” theory by pointing out that by failing to challenge or end the status quo you are complicit in the crime.
just as we have seen racist crap and attacks against black people on this forum and all of the so called ‘good white folks’ that claim they are not racist do absolutely nothing to stop it.
yet those same silent posters jump all over the first black man that points out racism.
I would say your take is only partially true. though i dont believe most Caucasians are cross burning clan members, most caucasians are quite comfortable with the way things are and benefit as a result. Thus they cant be counted on to undo what is in play.
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You are correct in that I am anti racist. I know nothing else, having been born on an Air Force base into a mixing pot of ethnicities, and subsequently joined the Marine Corps myself. So, I think my upbringing had alot to do with it but, when you make comments like the one that prompted my first response, it seems like you’re inviting the attacks. I mean honestly man, for real, I think most people that take shots at you, do so because they don’t like how you present your case. Not neccessarily cause they’re being racist against you. I think it’s a personal attack more than racial. I dunno man, I read alot in here. That’s just what it seems to me.
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My original post was not about attacks on me.
My original post was that black coaches are not getting the same opportunities as their whit counterparts and this is a known issue.
this is truth nothing more. You may not believe that racism exist in sports but that doesnt make it untrue.
If pointing out racism ‘invites attacks’ then i think those attackers should examine their own personal feelings intentions and psychology.
*********
u mean how u don’t like how i point out ur racism?
January 18th, 2013 at 2:51 pm
1437.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:43 pm
Jay Glazer@JayGlazer
Raider expected to promote Wide Reciver Coach Ted Gilmore as Offensive Coordinator
——————
Boom! and there it is!
^^^^^^^^^
If true…..WOW…..just WOW….in a PATHECTIC way!
With the 1st pick in the 2013 NFL Draft the Oakland Raiders select…..JADEVEON CLOWNEY, DE, SOUTH CAROLINA
January 18th, 2013 at 2:52 pm
Oakland Raiders News@RaiderNewsFlash
Report:Raiders will decide on OC very soon could be by next Thursday or even sooner. It’s down to 3 names and one of them is Mike Martz
January 18th, 2013 at 2:53 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:50 pm
Nah man Im just playing with u guys. NO TED GILMORE..
had to loosen up everyone around here..
I REPEAT TED GILMORE IS NOT GOING TO BE OC
…….
haha… it worked because it sounded just like something these dumbazzes would do.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:53 pm
Raiders about to promote WR coach Gilmore to OC.
http://www.nfl.com/coachingvacancies?raiders_to_promote_wrcoach_gilmore_to_oc%%2012/01/18%%
January 18th, 2013 at 2:53 pm
My original post was not about attacks on me.
My original post was that black coaches are not getting the same opportunities as their whit counterparts and this is a known issue.
this is truth nothing more. You may not believe that racism exist in sports but that doesnt make it untrue.
If pointing out racism ‘invites attacks’ then i think those attackers should examine their own personal feelings intentions and psychology.
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I know it wasn’t. It started out like this:
black coaches are not getting the same opportunities as their whit counterparts and this is a known issue.
There it is, point taken….. It’s the whole
“Sharpening my sword, we’re going to war, and Amerikka”
stuff that I think “Invites” people to come AT you.
That’s all I’m sayin.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:54 pm
GILMORE! WTF! HOLY SCHYYYT!!!!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
FML FML FML FML FML FML FMLFML FML FML FML FML
oh, you were kidding? Never mind…..
January 18th, 2013 at 2:55 pm
That was one quality that AL had over every other NFL owner in them bad ole’ days. He didn’t care about race, gender,etc. as long as you came to play every Sunday, and most importantly “JUST WIN BABY!”
January 18th, 2013 at 2:56 pm
Jambo, what are you talking about?
Have you ever been to Cleveland??
That place is 10x better compared to sunny, warm California girls that are unforgettable with daisy dukes, bikinis on top and sun-kissed skin that will melt your popsicle!!
Cleveland Rocks!!!
January 18th, 2013 at 2:56 pm
1459.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:52 pm
Oakland Raiders News@RaiderNewsFlash
Report:Raiders will decide on OC very soon could be by next Thursday or even sooner. It’s down to 3 names and one of them is Mike Martz
^^^^^^^^
I would like to know who the other 2 “names” are……sheesh….
January 18th, 2013 at 2:56 pm
dr_robert Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:34 pm
why don’t u knuckleheads wait and see who is hired before u complain?
see it thru.
and no former raider coaches are coming back. that almost never happens.
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Mark is giving Allen one more season to show some progression. Nothing short of 10-6. If not, Gruden is in the wings and will be here in ‘14. That is a fact. Can’t divulge my source, but there is more than one.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:57 pm
I would like to know who the other 2 “names” are……sheesh….
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Happy and Gilmore.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:58 pm
Although I don’t think that Pryor is the Messiah yet. I think there is a problem with race today where there is only one African-American Offensive Coordinator in the WHOLE NFL.
Hue Jackson may have had a tough rookie year as a Head-Coach, but how is he not getting interviews for offensive coordinator? He did make the offense move.
Meanwhile Retread-nothing coaches like Rob Ryan get job after job (he sucked here as DC and he took one of the most talented Ds in Dallas to the toilet) somehow.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:58 pm
If that’s true, it’s a setup for 2014. Gruden is coming back.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:59 pm
r_robert Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:48 pm
********
see, this is why people can’t stand u. ur a liar. so, u have no cred.
i’ve never said a racist thing here. and u know it. i HAVE made some jokes
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I have no concern or care for being ‘liked” in cyber space. Unlike you i have real relationships with actual people.
You have made disgusting racist jokes, this has proven you are a racist.
Cheering for black athletes doesnt undo your racism.
Romans hated afrikkkans but cheered wildly for black gladiators while watching them being torn apart by lions. Does this mean they were not racist?
georgewashington the biggest slave owner in amerikkka of his day enjoyed watching black people fight to the death fro sport. he cheered fro his own slaves to win, does that make him less racist?
jefferson slept with ( raped ) his 13 year old slave repeatedly then sold the offspring that were of his own blood.
So being friendly or a fan doesnt negate your racism
January 18th, 2013 at 2:59 pm
tice would suck as an OC. he is just an OL coach.
January 18th, 2013 at 2:59 pm
ian85 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:39 pm
Wow koolkell U trying to say Denise will be like walsh lmfao get real old fart Denise sucks dck hue could atleast run a offense we will get stuck with a crap oc and tits and mumbles will be fired at the end of the year bank it they both suck and so does mark Davis for firing hue
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Saying DA was all Raiders, instead of Hue being all about Hue.
And don’t knock DA’s tits. I have Mooters myself (manhooters)and just accept it as God’s way of giving me something to play with when I’m bored.
You should try it.
January 18th, 2013 at 3:01 pm
1467.Raiders Dot Com Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:56 pm
dr_robert Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:34 pm
why don’t u knuckleheads wait and see who is hired before u complain?
see it thru.
and no former raider coaches are coming back. that almost never happens.
_____________________________________________________
Mark is giving Allen one more season to show some progression. Nothing short of 10-6. If not, Gruden is in the wings and will be here in ‘14. That is a fact. Can’t divulge my source, but there is more than one.
^^^^^^^^^
Gruden next year now? Why not this year??
Mark needs to stop wasting time.
January 18th, 2013 at 3:01 pm
what about PAT HILL line coach on Falcons as OC
might be waiting for him
January 18th, 2013 at 3:01 pm
theghostronin79 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:53 pm
My original post was not about attacks on me.
My original post was that black coaches are not getting the same opportunities as their whit counterparts and this is a known issue.
this is truth nothing more. You may not believe that racism exist in sports but that doesnt make it untrue.
If pointing out racism ‘invites attacks’ then i think those attackers should examine their own personal feelings intentions and psychology.
=============
I know it wasn’t. It started out like this:
black coaches are not getting the same opportunities as their whit counterparts and this is a known issue.
There it is, point taken….. It’s the whole
“Sharpening my sword, we’re going to war, and Amerikka”
stuff that I think “Invites” people to come AT you.
That’s all I’m sayin.
============
again i respect your ideal but it does not match reality
the evidence suggest we are at war, and continue to be prisoners of war.
We were brought here through war, and to this day we are killed for the color of our skin here in amerikkka.
refusing to acknowledge the reality only would set me up for victimization.
I would rather fight
January 18th, 2013 at 3:02 pm
With the 1st pick in the 2013 NFL Draft the LOUSY Oakland Raiders select….
JADEVEON CLOWNEY, DE, SOUTH CAROLINA
January 18th, 2013 at 3:02 pm
With the 1st pick in the 2014 NFL Draft the LOUSY Oakland Raiders select….
JADEVEON CLOWNEY, DE, SOUTH CAROLINA
January 18th, 2013 at 3:03 pm
lol…nicely done….could make a movie call it the mckenzie witch….
January 18th, 2013 at 3:04 pm
With the 1st pick in the 2014 NFL Draft the LOUSY Oakland Raiders select….
Al bundy rb green bay packers practice squad…
January 18th, 2013 at 3:04 pm
Reggie has to find someone with less clout in the NFL than DA.
January 18th, 2013 at 3:06 pm
By the way in terms of people ‘coming at me’, if i never posted here in my life people would come at me in the real world because I am black.
That is life as a black man in amerikkka
January 18th, 2013 at 3:07 pm
The Raiders may be experiencing an Al Davis hangover of sorts. Coaches who were jaded by Al Davis anti-coachisms throughout the years are still a little gun shy about coming to Oakland. The recent hiring and firing of Knapp has probably given some coaches out there pause.
I actually think that working for Reggie would be a pretty good gig. He does not seem like the type to micro-manage or undermine a coach. He kinda gives bad-actors their own rope to hang themselves. You could have meetings with him over breakfast at Dennys and not feel bad about ordering the grandslam
January 18th, 2013 at 3:07 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 3:01 pm
what about PAT HILL line coach on Falcons as OC
might be waiting for him
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That would likely mean more ZBS.. ughh…
BTW, the Senior Bowl practices start Monday and the Raiders probably have to leave tomorrow/Sunday at latest to get setup – if the Raiders don’t hire somebody in the next 24-48 hrs – forget about any hires till after the Senior Bowl as they will be busy.
Amazing its been almost 3 weeks and nothing… Raiders are sailing in a ship with no mast..
January 18th, 2013 at 3:08 pm
r8eray Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:56 pm
Jambo, what are you talking about?
Have you ever been to Cleveland??
That place is 10x better compared to sunny, warm California girls that are unforgettable with daisy dukes, bikinis on top and sun-kissed skin that will melt your popsicle!!
Cleveland Rocks!!!
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Never been there r8eray. However, always respected the Browns fans who showed up in the crappiest of weather, shi**iest of stadiums, and were totally devoted to their team, and eventually had that pulled from them and shipped to Baltimore. Glad that they got an NFL franchise back, they deserved it. I’m sure Cleveland does have some excellent opportunities, however, there is nothing better than being a “devoted fan” of your OAKLAND RAIDERS!
January 18th, 2013 at 3:08 pm
Google Employee #1: Who the fk is Ted Gilmor?
Google Employee #2: I don’t know. Why?
Google Employee #1: The system just showed that 300 people just googled his name in a five second time-frame!
Google Employee #2: Beats me….probably just some unemployed Raider fans.
Google Employee #1: Oh, that again….yeah, I remember that Sanjay Lal hit we took a few years ago….almost shut down our system!
January 18th, 2013 at 3:08 pm
CDERaider Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:40 pm
Speaking of OC retreads.. What about Mike Tice as OC? Trestman just fired the whole Bears staff. Tice kind of reminds of Tom Cable in stature/attitude. Def a guy that doesn’t take any shiite.. Would prob overshadow DA.. as if that’s difficult.
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Tice as O-line coach, yes.
Tice as O-coordinator, no.
Good teams are hiring former HCs as assistants, coordinators, and position coaches. Tice would be a great addition to our staff as O-line coach. But Dennis is probably scared of having a presence like Tice around. I dont think Dennis likes guys that have the ability to undermine him, (Rolando?). Thats why he chose Knapp. Thats why he chose Tarver.
January 18th, 2013 at 3:08 pm
Mystic if u hate whites and amerikkka soooo much then get the fck out
January 18th, 2013 at 3:09 pm
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 3:04 pm
Reggie has to find someone with less clout in the NFL than DA.
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The 1st year offensive quality control coach for the Jags?
Nah, that’s too much clout..
January 18th, 2013 at 3:09 pm
DA to new oc….”meet us in mobile…”
January 18th, 2013 at 3:11 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:50 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:45 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:39 pm
you have posted some of the most racist things on this board, and everybody knows it
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While YOU have posted not some of the most racist things, but THE MOST RACIST THINGS ON THIS BOARD.
You bring all us brothers down. For every successful black man who’s made it on their own, there are those like you, who blame everyone but themselves for their failures.
You have no idea what racism is, except what you saw on Roots. REAL RACISM, NOT YOUR OPINION OF WHAT YOU CONSIDER RACIST.
In reality, you’re a nobody.
I suspect you know that.
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post as yourself
How can you possibly admonish another man for stating his own beliefs when you pretend to be some else all together?
fake kell = zero cred
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Don’t talk to me about cred, backasswards race monger. You get called out all the time, and conveninetly slinker off, never backing up your words.
That’s what little men do.
That’s what cowards do.
You’ve been called out by many posters who are black, yet look at you.
SAME SORRY PATHETIC INSECURE RACIST RANTS, repeated, over and over.
You’ve posted the same stupid schitt for months.
And what’s your answer when you get schooled?
OH THEY HAVE TO BE CROSS POSTERS.
yeah, cowardly spineless fuk, THAT’S YOUR REPLY EVERYTIME YOU GET CALLED OUT.
Means you have nothing. Means you have no spine. Means you post the same “feel sorry for me because I’m black” or “we can’t get a break because of white superiority” YOUR WORDS.
Like it or not, you’re the product of your Daddy blaming whitey for not hiring him, while he gladly cashed the welfare check whitey sent him.
Sound familiar?
January 18th, 2013 at 3:11 pm
Lots of hires going on around the league. Lips and Denise got dick. Oakland Packers Practice Squad West Baby!!!
January 18th, 2013 at 3:11 pm
DKnight007 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 3:02 pm
With the 1st pick in the 2014 NFL Draft the LOUSY Oakland Raiders select….
JADEVEON CLOWNEY, DE, SOUTH CAROLINA
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“Clowney is ready for the NFL, is the NFL ready for Clowney?!”
–Dan Patrick
January 18th, 2013 at 3:12 pm
raidertalk Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 3:07 pm
The Raiders may be experiencing an Al Davis hangover of sorts. Coaches who were jaded by Al Davis anti-coachisms throughout the years are still a little gun shy about coming to Oakland. The recent hiring and firing of Knapp has probably given some coaches out there pause.
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And knowing that if you join this team (rock bottom 2-14 next year) you’ll likely be fired with staff and be scrambling for your next gig (likely a demotion) next season. That’s the real reason nobody will touch it with a 100 foot poll. People with future’s to consider and all that..
January 18th, 2013 at 3:13 pm
Raiders 2013 : Clownin for Clowney
January 18th, 2013 at 3:13 pm
ian85 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 3:08 pm
Mystic if u hate whites and amerikkka soooo much then get the fck out
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They don’t send welfare checks or food stamps unless you live here.
Trust me. I know.
January 18th, 2013 at 3:13 pm
ian85 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 3:08 pm
Mystic if u hate whites and amerikkka soooo much then get the fck out
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1. I dont hate white people
2. You want me to get out of the county that helped build. why should i? i have as much stake here as any white man does, only i didnt have to rob steal or kill for that position here.
3. should mike florio also get out for pointing out the inequality in coaching hires?
January 18th, 2013 at 3:14 pm
Shame on you for preaching hate on a football blog
Too bad cowards are shameless
January 18th, 2013 at 3:15 pm
DKnight007 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 3:02 pm
With the 1st pick in the 2014 NFL Draft the LOUSY Oakland Raiders select….
JADEVEON CLOWNEY, DE, SOUTH CAROLINA
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“Clowney is ready for the NFL, is the NFL ready for Clowney?!”
–Dan Patrick
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC44nP7ClxM
South Carolina DESERVES TO HAVE IT and they DO!
January 18th, 2013 at 3:15 pm
Jade on clowney with the first pick in 2014 and hopefully d Moore this year that would be some nasty DE combo for ten years warmack or joekel would be awesome as well hell even a trade down would be great to pick up the big German Werner
January 18th, 2013 at 3:16 pm
GM: Reggie McKenzie.
Head Coach: Dennis Allen.
Defensive Coordinator: Jason Tarver
Defensive Line Coach: Terrell Williams
Offensive Coordinator: NONE
Offensive Line Coach: NONE
Special Teams Coach: NONE
Linebackers Coach: NONE
Confirmed interviews:
Mike Martz, OC
Juan Castillo, Offensive Line
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I truly do feel that most of the people on this very blog could do better at trying to fill these coaching positions than the effort I see Reggie and DA giving.
I also think that I could have easily given you guys a 4-12 season if I was hired as GM. Sh!t, I think I could have at least given us 5-11.
Not impressed.
January 18th, 2013 at 3:17 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 3:06 pm
By the way in terms of people ‘coming at me’, if i never posted here in my life people would come at me in the real world because I am black.
That is life as a black man in amerikkka
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Oh boooooo hooooooo. wahhhhhhhhhhhhh. Poor widdle Mistic…”those big meany’s keep picking on me”
YOU JUST PROVED MY POINT, YOU DUMBASS, LOL.
I have a feeling I’ll be pasting that “feel sorry for me, help me, pat me on the head and tell me it will get better” whimper for quite some time.
January 18th, 2013 at 3:17 pm
Te’o hoax is just that. Probably a wise ploy to drop out of the top 10 in the draft. The kid wants to play for a team like the Steelers or Ravens, and with the slotted salary structure now – its probably better for your career in the long run to take a slightly lesser rookie salary to play for a winner..
January 18th, 2013 at 3:19 pm
John David Booty Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 3:16 pm
GM: Reggie McKenzie.
Head Coach: Dennis Allen.
Defensive Coordinator: Jason Tarver
Defensive Line Coach: Terrell Williams
Offensive Coordinator: NONE
Offensive Line Coach: NONE
Special Teams Coach: NONE
Linebackers Coach: NONE
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And they are going to Mobile and coach the North Squad with this? So Embarrassing..
January 18th, 2013 at 3:19 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:59 pm
r_robert Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:48 pm
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see, this is why people can’t stand u. ur a liar. so, u have no cred.
i’ve never said a racist thing here. and u know it. i HAVE made some jokes
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I have no concern or care for being ‘liked” in cyber space. Unlike you i have real relationships with actual people.
You have made disgusting racist jokes, this has proven you are a racist.
Cheering for black athletes doesnt undo your racism.
Romans hated afrikkkans but cheered wildly for black gladiators while watching them being torn apart by lions. Does this mean they were not racist?
georgewashington the biggest slave owner in amerikkka of his day enjoyed watching black people fight to the death fro sport. he cheered fro his own slaves to win, does that make him less racist?
jefferson slept with ( raped ) his 13 year old slave repeatedly then sold the offspring that were of his own blood.
So being friendly or a fan doesnt negate your racism
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LOL. still talking about colonial times.
i can’t imagine u have many friends.
so, u are the joke police? a white person isn’t allowed to make a joke about race, in good humor, with no ill will? but blacks can call whites cracker. there can be a movie called “white men can’t jump”. eddie murphy and richard pryor, and martin lawrence and eddie griffin can make fun of white people and it’s ok right? (it actually is cuz it’s no big deal. they don’t intend harm).
u need to look up ur definitions of “white supremacy” and “racism”. u might be surprised about the real meanings of the words u so freely toss around.
my family came over here from europe around the turn of the century. yankees and liberals. never owned slaves. never cheered on black gladiators (u apparently saw django, and the reality of whether those matches ever occurred is questionable, but truth never stopped u).
i’ve never “repressed” anyone.
i would love to hear just one story about u being hurt by racism. not someone else in the news. YOU. bet there is no story.
i’ll ask u point blank. are u racist missdick? do u hate white people?
January 18th, 2013 at 3:20 pm
Clowney is like the Bo Jackson of college DE’s. He’s gonna be AMAZING as a Raider. Almost makes the 2 wasted seasons that Reggie/DA will be in Raiders history worth it. Almost.
January 18th, 2013 at 3:22 pm
Maybe the new OC is already on staff (Saunders) and they’re waiting until after this weekend to interview different position coaches at the senior bowl.
January 18th, 2013 at 3:22 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 3:06 pm
By the way in terms of people ‘coming at me’, if i never posted here in my life people would come at me in the real world because I am black.
That is life as a black man in amerikkka
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name an example coward.
it’s not reality for a lot of black guys. a lot of black guys get by in the real world just fine. they work hard. enjoy themselves. don’t look for fights. just folks.
January 18th, 2013 at 3:22 pm
Raidertalk Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 3:15 pm
DKnight007 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 3:02 pm
With the 1st pick in the 2014 NFL Draft the LOUSY Oakland Raiders select….
JADEVEON CLOWNEY, DE, SOUTH CAROLINA
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“Clowney is ready for the NFL, is the NFL ready for Clowney?!”
–Dan Patrick
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC44nP7ClxM
South Carolina DESERVES TO HAVE IT and they DO!
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I think that Michigan’s guys helmet was seen somewhere over North Korea.
January 18th, 2013 at 3:23 pm
Who wants to bet that after a month from now our OC is still yet to be named. And don’t be surprised to see Knapp entering thru the back door and on the sidlines come pre season. As Reg would say ‘this is what we do’. Allen would say his firing was a clerical error. Blame it on the accounting department or some damn thing.
January 18th, 2013 at 3:23 pm
What a great country this America is. No matter who I am, with little or no education, if I can catch/throw a football, slam a QB into next week. Pitch/hit a fast ball over 100 mph. Dunk/free throw a basketball. Slap a piece of rubber over 100mph, or check somebody’s brains out. I have the opportunity to make millions of dollars. And even when I screw up the ever doting “fan” no matter what forgives me. Sigh, what a great country this America is!
January 18th, 2013 at 3:23 pm
Clowney? Might as well. Not like we’re going anywhere next year. What’s Tom Walsh up to these days?
January 18th, 2013 at 3:23 pm
CDERaider Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 3:19 pm
John David Booty Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 3:16 pm
GM: Reggie McKenzie.
Head Coach: Dennis Allen.
Defensive Coordinator: Jason Tarver
Defensive Line Coach: Terrell Williams
Offensive Coordinator: NONE
Offensive Line Coach: NONE
Special Teams Coach: NONE
Linebackers Coach: NONE
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And they are going to Mobile and coach the North Squad with this? So Embarrassing..
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Jim Schwartz and the Detroit Lions staff against these guys? Lets see how this goes.
January 18th, 2013 at 3:24 pm
John David Booty Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 3:20 pm
Clowney is like the Bo Jackson of college DE’s. He’s gonna be AMAZING as a Raider. Almost makes the 2 wasted seasons that Reggie/DA will be in Raiders history worth it. Almost.
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Just hope his spirit isn’t broken when he’s drafted by a team with 3 winning seasons in 20 years…
January 18th, 2013 at 3:24 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 3:17 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 3:06 pm
By the way in terms of people ‘coming at me’, if i never posted here in my life people would come at me in the real world because I am black.
That is life as a black man in amerikkka
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Oh boooooo hooooooo. wahhhhhhhhhhhhh. Poor widdle Mistic…”those big meany’s keep picking on me”
YOU JUST PROVED MY POINT, YOU DUMBASS, LOL.
I have a feeling I’ll be pasting that “feel sorry for me, help me, pat me on the head and tell me it will get better” whimper for quite some time.
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fake kell
You have confused my admission of the reality in amerikkka as crying?
again this is simply your way of minimizing the issue, however I am not interested in complaining about it, nor do need or want your help solving it.
Being vigilant is not crying.
In fact your response tells me you are the one crying, because a black man is destroying your facade. in fact you are so fearful you dont even post under your own handle.
you will not get another response from me fake kell
January 18th, 2013 at 3:24 pm
1500 posts in 25 hours? You people are mad. MAD I say!
January 18th, 2013 at 3:25 pm
Hue Jackson would be a great hire at OC. I just dont believe in bringing former coaches back. For whatever reason…it rarely works
January 18th, 2013 at 3:26 pm
MarcusAllen Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 3:11 pm
Lots of hires going on around the league. Lips and Denise got dick. Oakland Packers Practice Squad West Baby!!!
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Green Bay hid their dumpsters. Reg unclear on what to do next. Allen to start looking at the high school levels as Div 1 & 2 staffs have refused him repeatedly.
January 18th, 2013 at 3:26 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 3:01 pm
theghostronin79 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:53 pm
My original post was not about attacks on me.
My original post was that black coaches are not getting the same opportunities as their whit counterparts and this is a known issue.
this is truth nothing more. You may not believe that racism exist in sports but that doesnt make it untrue.
If pointing out racism ‘invites attacks’ then i think those attackers should examine their own personal feelings intentions and psychology.
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I know it wasn’t. It started out like this:
black coaches are not getting the same opportunities as their whit counterparts and this is a known issue.
There it is, point taken….. It’s the whole
“Sharpening my sword, we’re going to war, and Amerikka”
stuff that I think “Invites” people to come AT you.
That’s all I’m sayin.
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again i respect your ideal but it does not match reality
the evidence suggest we are at war, and continue to be prisoners of war.
We were brought here through war, and to this day we are killed for the color of our skin here in amerikkka.
refusing to acknowledge the reality only would set me up for victimization.
I would rather fight
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this is where missdick crosses the line into obscenity.
war? prisoners of war? missdick is a prisoner of war? it’s a slap in the face of real prisoners of war. this punk doesn’t know adversity. he’s a cartoon.
so, he chooses to “fight” by touting black qb’s 100 times a day on this board. better than the chicken sh1t going and shooting innocent whites who are supposedly “complicit”. of course, they would be unarmed. this dude wouldn’t get involved in a fair fight in a million years. he’d never have the balls to do community work. or help anyone. he’s coward, a liar, and a puzzy.
January 18th, 2013 at 3:27 pm
Bears hire Trestman. He grabs Aaron Kromer for OC, now hes interviewing Raheem Morris for Defensive Coordinator. Looks like Trestman is putting together a hell of a staff over there.
Go Raiders.
January 18th, 2013 at 3:27 pm
Dakota Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 3:08 pm
Google Employee #1: Who the fk is Ted Gilmor?
Google Employee #2: I don’t know. Why?
Google Employee #1: The system just showed that 300 people just googled his name in a five second time-frame!
Google Employee #2: Beats me….probably just some unemployed Raider fans.
Google Employee #1: Oh, that again….yeah, I remember that Sanjay Lal hit we took a few years ago….almost shut down our system!
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Lol.
January 18th, 2013 at 3:27 pm
Green Bay hid their dumpsters. Reg unclear on what to do next
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Lol!
January 18th, 2013 at 3:28 pm
I’ve thought for a long time that Mistic is actually MR.
January 18th, 2013 at 3:29 pm
Would you people stop with the long copy and paste posts already? You’re not helping matters in here. Just reference the post#
January 18th, 2013 at 3:30 pm
The truth of the matter is, Allen cannot hire a OC who will prove to be smarter than Allen. Reggie put this staff in a tough spot when he hired Allen. Coaches have to be dumbed down to fit into the Raider coaching ranks. That’s not saying Allen won’t be a good fit for the Raiders 10-15 years down the road. It is just going to take some time. A lot of it. Be patient, stay the course. Don’t eat yellow snow.
January 18th, 2013 at 3:30 pm
No African-American HCs hired in NFL via external interview in 6 years….
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/18/its-been-six-years-since-an-african-american-head-coach-was-hired-via-external-search/
Yikes!
January 18th, 2013 at 3:31 pm
yeah, we’re all “afraid” of missdick. this dude wouldn’t scare a bird.
guys like u get nowhere and do nothing. u wouldn’t know how to make change to save ur life.
u do hate white people. u hate palmer. u lie about him constantly. change facts. fabricate him “pouting on the sideline”. downplay his merits. selectively pick whatever fits ur agenda. no clown liar like u has EVER amounted to anything or changed one thing.
interesting that monday is mlk day. we honor a good man who peacefully changed our country. now, he scared the powers that be, so they killed him. but he wasn’t scared. he fought with wisdom, charity, and good will. that’s a man.
January 18th, 2013 at 3:31 pm
exerpt from BleacherRpt:
The Oakland Raiders are not in a great salary cap situation until next year and they have 24 free agents in 2013—17 unrestricted and free to sign with any team. At a minimum general manager Reggie McKenzie has to re-sign or replace over a third of the roster with limited resources.
If you were wondering why the Raiders couldn’t attract a top offensive coordinator look no further than a depleted roster with limited resources to replenish it.
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Pretty much says it all.. Maybe they could turn the position into an ‘internship’
January 18th, 2013 at 3:31 pm
1486 & 1586 classics!
January 18th, 2013 at 3:32 pm
Cork must have given himself a vacation after coming up with that scuttlebutt headline.
January 18th, 2013 at 3:33 pm
Oops 1518.
January 18th, 2013 at 3:33 pm
John David Booty Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 3:27 pm
Bears hire Trestman. He grabs Aaron Kromer for OC, now hes interviewing Raheem Morris for Defensive Coordinator. Looks like Trestman is putting together a hell of a staff over there.
Go Raiders.
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And quickly. Most organizations feel a sense of urgency. We don’t. We have to ’sensory overload’ because we do not know the protocol and day to day nuances of running things.
January 18th, 2013 at 3:33 pm
Papertiger418 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 3:30 pm
No African-American HCs hired in NFL via external interview in 6 years….
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/18/its-been-six-years-since-an-african-american-head-coach-was-hired-via-external-search/
Yikes!
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well, we can’t get one here this year. but how about OC? i don’t know who would be a good candidate, but i’m down with it. gotta be some bright comers.
January 18th, 2013 at 3:34 pm
The Big Banana Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 3:29 pm
Would you people stop with the long copy and paste posts already? You’re not helping matters in here. Just reference the post#
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I hear you brother.
The wheel on my mouse is getting tired.
January 18th, 2013 at 3:35 pm
dr_robert Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 3:19 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:59 pm
r_robert Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 2:48 pm
********
see, this is why people can’t stand u. ur a liar. so, u have no cred.
i’ve never said a racist thing here. and u know it. i HAVE made some jokes
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I have no concern or care for being ‘liked” in cyber space. Unlike you i have real relationships with actual people.
You have made disgusting racist jokes, this has proven you are a racist.
Cheering for black athletes doesnt undo your racism.
Romans hated afrikkkans but cheered wildly for black gladiators while watching them being torn apart by lions. Does this mean they were not racist?
georgewashington the biggest slave owner in amerikkka of his day enjoyed watching black people fight to the death fro sport. he cheered fro his own slaves to win, does that make him less racist?
jefferson slept with ( raped ) his 13 year old slave repeatedly then sold the offspring that were of his own blood.
So being friendly or a fan doesnt negate your racism
**************
LOL. still talking about colonial times.
i can’t imagine u have many friends.
so, u are the joke police? a white person isn’t allowed to make a joke about race, in good humor, with no ill will? but blacks can call whites cracker. there can be a movie called “white men can’t jump”. eddie murphy and richard pryor, and martin lawrence and eddie griffin can make fun of white people and it’s ok right? (it actually is cuz it’s no big deal. they don’t intend harm).
u need to look up ur definitions of “white supremacy” and “racism”. u might be surprised about the real meanings of the words u so freely toss around.
my family came over here from europe around the turn of the century. yankees and liberals. never owned slaves. never cheered on black gladiators (u apparently saw django, and the reality of whether those matches ever occurred is questionable, but truth never stopped u).
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you are trash
yes making racist jokes about black people means you are racist.
Black people did not make the movie ‘white men cant jump” white people did
Black people dont own the movie production companies or distributors they are mega coorporations like time warner fox and columbia. owned by whites
I did not see django and im not interested in it in any way shape or form
The black on black death matches fro the entertainment of whites is FACT, you trying to act as if it is imagined only further proves your own racist world view
January 18th, 2013 at 3:35 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 3:06 pm
By the way in terms of people ‘coming at me’, if i never posted here in my life people would come at me in the real world because I am black.
That is life as a black man in amerikkka
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Sorry man, I guess it depends on where you are in the country and whatnot but….I’m scratchin my head trying to think of any time I’ve witnessed anything like that, in ALL the places I’ve lived, all the people I know and been around…..And I tell you, the biggest division or form predjiduce I’ve seen:
Has been the “Rich” folks and the “Poor” folks.
I won’t be able to see eye to eye with you… and that’s alright. Just from a completely different walk of life.
We got one thing in common though… Just want the Raiders to win some damn football games. Don’t give a SH*T about “Who” or “How”, Just fu*kin win.
January 18th, 2013 at 3:35 pm
Dr. Pepper.
Dr. Dre.
Dr. Detroit.
Dr. J.
Dr. Frankenstein.
Dr. Robert
hall-of-famers
January 18th, 2013 at 3:37 pm
Papertiger418 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 3:30 pm
No African-American HCs hired in NFL via external interview in 6 years….
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/18/its-been-six-years-since-an-african-american-head-coach-was-hired-via-external-search/
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I could care fuk’n less.
If they’re any good, they’ll get hired.
The NFL is a business that is all about making money and that means winning games.
Which is why Mark is so worried.
January 18th, 2013 at 3:41 pm
We’re like a ship that can’t sail because we don’t understand the tide. What is Reg/Allens problem in finding a bona fide OC? What is the matter with these guys. Maybe they have ‘other’ internal issues and finding a OC isn’t a high priority right now.
January 18th, 2013 at 3:41 pm
dr_robert Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 3:22 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 3:06 pm
By the way in terms of people ‘coming at me’, if i never posted here in my life people would come at me in the real world because I am black.
That is life as a black man in amerikkka
************
name an example coward.
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if you were smarter this wouuld be more entertaining.
nat turner
malcolm x
patrice lamumba
fred hampton
mlk
kenneth harding jr
trayonne martin
oscar grant
gerinimo gijaga (pratt)
huey p newton
tawana brawley
you were saying?
January 18th, 2013 at 3:42 pm
dammmn kookell is schoooling u mystic u might need some lube for that raping his giving u
January 18th, 2013 at 3:42 pm
Reg/Allen don’t have a plan. That’s why the search for a OC is going nowhere. “we’ve narrowed it down to three” is a smokescreen.
January 18th, 2013 at 3:42 pm
theghostronin79 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 3:35 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 3:06 pm
By the way in terms of people ‘coming at me’, if i never posted here in my life people would come at me in the real world because I am black.
That is life as a black man in amerikkka
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Sorry man, I guess it depends on where you are in the country and whatnot but….I’m scratchin my head trying to think of any time I’ve witnessed anything like that, in ALL the places I’ve lived, all the people I know and been around…..And I tell you, the biggest division or form predjiduce I’ve seen:
Has been the “Rich” folks and the “Poor” folks.
I won’t be able to see eye to eye with you… and that’s alright. Just from a completely different walk of life.
We got one thing in common though… Just want the Raiders to win some damn football games. Don’t give a SH*T about “Who” or “How”, Just fu*kin win.
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agreed
January 18th, 2013 at 3:44 pm
actually theghost mystic isnt a raider fan and he doesnt care if they win or lose unless a black man is the qb so u guys dont have just winning in common at all
January 18th, 2013 at 3:46 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 3:35 pm
you are trash
yes making racist jokes about black people means you are racist.
Black people did not make the movie ‘white men cant jump” white people did
Black people dont own the movie production companies or distributors they are mega coorporations like time warner fox and columbia. owned by whites
I did not see django and im not interested in it in any way shape or form
The black on black death matches fro the entertainment of whites is FACT, you trying to act as if it is imagined only further proves your own racist world view
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so, even if i SAY i’m just kidding, i’m not allowed to mess around with racial jokes? cu u say that automatically means i’m racist.
so, every week, at my poker game, at the break, when we color up chips, and i say “let’s get all the blacks (chips) off the table”, and i look at my black friends, and every time, the white guys laugh, and the black guys say “fu@k u cracker”, and we all laugh, that means i’m racist?
wesley snipes and a bunch of black people made that movie. it was funny.
django is a masterpiece. ur missing great cinema due to ur closed little mind.
i imagine the black fights for sport probably did happen. awful and disgusting. i would kill those people myself if i could.
but there is debate among academics as to the whether they occurred for sure, or if they are myth. i assume they did. but u state former presidents staged them as fact, when there is no proof.
this is why ur a liar.
January 18th, 2013 at 3:46 pm
YO YO YO YO THE BEEEECH DAWG IS BACK N FULL EFFECT
Whut up losers
Just finished nailing my smoking hot girlfriend Cinnamon bareback-style and we’re celebrating getting back together with a bucket of KFC
Girl likes her chicken like her man – hot, steamy and packed with unusual flavors
After we broke up yesterday I wrote some amazing hit songs and then humped a pool waitress to get my mind off my depression
But I couldn’t stop thinking about my girl, so I scored a bag of chronic and skateboarded down to her pad
We ended up dry humping all night while listening to Michael Buble’s Christmas album
Just how we do it in the MDR, HOLLA
January 18th, 2013 at 3:47 pm
Q: Where are you in terms of filling out the coaching staff?
McKenzie: “It’s going well. We should be coming up with some answers shortly, but it’s progressing well.”
Translation: “We’re not anywhere close, the three guys we talked to actually laughed and said hell no so we’ve decided to wait until the rest of league fills their vacancies and then we’ll beg from whoever is left.”
Q: Do you think you’ll have answers before the Senior Bowl?
McKenzie: “They’re winding down right now. All of them, no. But we’re trying to wrap them all up within in a few days, so we’ll see how it goes.”
Translation: “No. We figure we can patch together a staff from college grad assistants in the Alabama area to fill in while we’re down there. Besides, these kids can essentially coach themselves. We’re really just going down for the BBQ. Speaking of, ain’t it lunch time yet?”
January 18th, 2013 at 3:47 pm
mystic u should just get it over with and take urself out to pasture man be done with it all u obviously live a sad sad life
January 18th, 2013 at 3:47 pm
Just to get facts straight.
Wimbley, Boss, and Routt were under contract last year they were cut it means Raiders get nothing in return.
A 6th rounder for Bush and Satele are very probable though plus another 7th because the record.
January 18th, 2013 at 3:47 pm
Nwr8r Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 3:32 pm
Cork must have given himself a vacation after coming up with that scuttlebutt headline.
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He deserves it…it took him countless number of weeks to come up with something that original!!
Steve Wilkos Show Audience: chants…”STEEEVE, STEEEVE”
January 18th, 2013 at 3:48 pm
three….larry, curly and moe…
January 18th, 2013 at 3:48 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 3:41 pm
dr_robert Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 3:22 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 3:06 pm
By the way in terms of people ‘coming at me’, if i never posted here in my life people would come at me in the real world because I am black.
That is life as a black man in amerikkka
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name an example coward.
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if you were smarter this wouuld be more entertaining.
nat turner
malcolm x
patrice lamumba
fred hampton
mlk
kenneth harding jr
trayonne martin
oscar grant
gerinimo gijaga (pratt)
huey p newton
tawana brawley
you were saying?
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duh. i know blacks have dealt with racism.
i’ve been asking for u to give a personal example.
January 18th, 2013 at 3:49 pm
raidertalk Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 3:07 pm
The Raiders may be experiencing an Al Davis hangover of sorts. Coaches who were jaded by Al Davis anti-coachisms throughout the years are still a little gun shy about coming to Oakland. The recent hiring and firing of Knapp has probably given some coaches out there pause.
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I don’t think so.
I think that coaches hesitate to come here because we just don’t have the players to become competitive.
That will change with a few good drafts.
January 18th, 2013 at 3:49 pm
dr_robert Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 3:31 pm
interesting that monday is mlk day. we honor a good man who peacefully changed our country. now, he scared the powers that be, so they killed him.=
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it wasnt changed all that much apparently he took a bullet to the throat as a reward.
to this day black people here are still being murdered by whites simply because they are black.
I wont speak ill of mlk or criticize my own brothers in front of my enemies any longer, however i would say unfortunate it appears mlk’s dream is still nothing more than dream
January 18th, 2013 at 3:50 pm
Have a good weekend everyone……Time to git home
January 18th, 2013 at 3:50 pm
Ian85 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 3:44 pm
actually theghost mystic isnt a raider fan and he doesnt care if they win or lose unless a black man is the qb so u guys dont have just winning in common at all
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this is true. he has said it many times. he doesn’t watch unless there’s a black qb or coach.
January 18th, 2013 at 3:52 pm
i agree with someone who posted earlier that having tits and mumbles for 2 years sucking up the joint is almost worth it for the fact we should be able to nab clowney with the first pick other than that those two or worthless and lost and am very much looking forward to the day that mark firies those worthless pos
January 18th, 2013 at 3:53 pm
dr_robert Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 3:48 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 3:41 pm
dr_robert Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 3:22 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 3:06 pm
By the way in terms of people ‘coming at me’, if i never posted here in my life people would come at me in the real world because I am black.
That is life as a black man in amerikkka
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name an example coward.
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if you were smarter this wouuld be more entertaining.
nat turner
malcolm x
patrice lamumba
fred hampton
mlk
kenneth harding jr
trayonne martin
oscar grant
gerinimo gijaga (pratt)
huey p newton
tawana brawley
you were saying?
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duh. i know blacks have dealt with racism.
i’ve been asking for u to give a personal example.
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when you assassinate imprison and discreet our families and leadership IT IS PERSONAL.
The Afrikan wholistic world view says that all black people are family and extensions of one another
counter to your euro centric world view of individualism
feel free to get a a life
January 18th, 2013 at 3:53 pm
Brahs, just noticed my minion Nob Bust – the Official Blog Punching Bag – is again MELTING down hysterically for our pleasure
Go ahead and take a few free uppercuts before he totally flames out, you’ll feel better about your low paying job
Speaking of my abs, my morning yoga practice by the pool has definitely increased my 18-pack definition
Now when babes ask me to freshly squeeze oranges on my washboard, I can finally be sure there won’t be any pulp
JUST HOW DEM BIG DAWGS BARK, WOOF WOOF MEOW
January 18th, 2013 at 3:55 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 3:49 pm
dr_robert Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 3:31 pm
interesting that monday is mlk day. we honor a good man who peacefully changed our country. now, he scared the powers that be, so they killed him.=
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it wasnt changed all that much apparently he took a bullet to the throat as a reward.
to this day black people here are still being murdered by whites simply because they are black.
I wont speak ill of mlk or criticize my own brothers in front of my enemies any longer, however i would say unfortunate it appears mlk’s dream is still nothing more than dream
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what a dick. MLK didn’t change the country much? ur a fu@king moron. u spit on all ur people who struggled thru the civil rights movement that enables u to live so well.
newsflash: a lot of blacks are doing killing too. whites and other blacks. i’m sure u only see some killing as bad.
so, whites are ur enemies? u just said it. ur a racist fool.
how dare u minimize what MLK did? u have never fought for anything good and decent. u have never risked urself.
ur the definition of gutless, lying coward. u make me sick.