Breaking news: Raiders hire seasoned, well-regarded offensive coordinator
By Steve Corkran
Friday, January 18th, 2013 at 11:04 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The Raiders on Friday hired Greg Olson to be their offensive coordinator, a person familiar with the situation confirmed Friday night.
Olson spent last season as the assistant head coach/quarterbacks coach for the Jacksonville Jaguars. He replaces Greg Knapp in Oakland and will work under coach Dennis Allen.
Olson has six years’ experience as an offensive coordinator in the NFL, including three with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, from 2009-11. He also had one year in that capacity with the Detroit Lions and two with the St. Louis Rams.
During that time, Olson was credited with the rapid development of Buccaneers quarterback Josh Freeman into one of the league’s more promising players and for getting the most out of the Rams skill position players.
In 2006, the Rams became only the fourth team in NFL history with a 4,000-yard passer (Marc Bulger), 1,500-yard rusher (Steven Jackson) and two 1,000-yard receivers (Torry Holt and Isaac Bruce).
It’s also worth noting that Olson favors a power-blocking scheme, which means the zone-blocking scheme favored by Knapp and fired offensive line coach Frank Pollack are gone after one season.
That should help jump-start running back Darren McFadden, who averaged only 3.3 yards per carry in 2012 and never looked comfortable in the scheme.
Jackson had his best season in 2006, when Olson was his offensive coordinator.
Olson also worked with Drew Brees when both were at Purdue and Olson was the quarterbacks coach and coached under Jon Gruden, when both were with the Buccaneers.
Allen hired Olson after a lengthy and thorough search that included interviews with numerous high-profile candidates. In the end, Allen felt as if Olson is the best fit.
Many in league circles speak highly of Olson and say he’s a bright offensive coach. It’s conceivable that Olson will join the Raiders in time to help the coaching staff work the Senior Bowl in Mobile, Ala., next week.
No word yet from the Raiders on when Olson will be introduced as their offensive coordinator.
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January 18th, 2013 at 11:05 pm
won
January 18th, 2013 at 11:05 pm
Shoot Me!
January 18th, 2013 at 11:05 pm
Back to power running!?
This has to please the masses, no!?
January 18th, 2013 at 11:05 pm
this guy looks like Brent Barry
January 18th, 2013 at 11:07 pm
Allen hired Olson after a lengthy and thorough search that included interviews with numerous high-profile candidates. In the end, Allen felt as if Olson is the best fit.
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Please tell me that was a joke..
January 18th, 2013 at 11:07 pm
Actually, if Olson was on staff with the Jags when DMC went off and had some ridiculous runs, I’m glad.
That means Olson saw upfront what DMC prefers and is capable of.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:07 pm
2019.jackasspuria Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:03 pm
Here’s his mug for those that had no clue what Olson looks like…
http://images.teamtalk.com/08/01/800×600/Greg_Olson_619186.jpg
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This Mug explains everything. He did not have to say a single word at the interview. They asked him how would he use DMAC and he just looked at them. His eyes are pointed between the Tackles.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:08 pm
RediaR Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:00 pm
We may not like it guys, but Greg Olson puts butts in seats and that’s all that matters ultimately.
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i can’t argue. it’s a fact.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:09 pm
#7 lol…That or he was starring at Allen’s tits…
January 18th, 2013 at 11:09 pm
jackasspuria Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:05 pm
Back to power running!?
This has to please the masses, no!?
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Yes. I think it’s a good hire from where I sit. I love the pic u posted too. He looks like just the kind of psycho we need.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:10 pm
Dr_robert Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:04 pm
well, i think there will be a new topic of convo on this board for a while.
racism!
January 18th, 2013 at 11:10 pm
I’m growing more comfortable with this as time passes.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:10 pm
RediaR Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:08 pm
MikieG Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:04 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:01 pm
MikieG Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 10:58 pm
Id rather have fukkin Merlin Olson..
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Or the Olsen twins.
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Ugh, Check out this creepazoid pic of her and her BF..
http://gossiponthis.com/2012/11/13/mary-kate-olsen-creepy-42-year-old-boyfriend-olivier-sarkozy-knicks-game-photos/
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She looks like she has muscular dystrophy
January 18th, 2013 at 11:11 pm
DJ Johnny
He actually looks like wrestler Shawn Micheals with short hair.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:11 pm
Steve Corkran @CorkOnTheNFL
Greg Olson is bringing back the power blocking and downhill runs favored by RB Darren McFadden. Say good-bye to the zone-blocking scheme.
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January 18th, 2013 at 11:11 pm
I believe DA didn’t want a guy running the Offense who Reggie will feel comfortable naming interim HC entering the bye week.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:12 pm
missdick will love him.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:13 pm
RediaR Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:10 pm
I’m growing more comfortable with this as time passes.
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well, finally.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:13 pm
Yes. I think it’s a good hire from where I sit. I love the pic u posted too. He looks like just the kind of psycho we need
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Was gonna post a link to his pic. Must be the same one.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:13 pm
i love that this came so late. there are gonna be some fun responses in the morning.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:13 pm
Smells like vomit.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:14 pm
Steve Corkran @CorkOnTheNFL
Greg Olson is bringing back the power blocking and downhill runs favored by RB Darren McFadden. Say good-bye to the zone-blocking scheme.
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We said goodbye 7K posts ago. What chu doing up this time of morning Steve?
January 18th, 2013 at 11:14 pm
#1 pick in 2014 book it baby!
January 18th, 2013 at 11:14 pm
lengthy and thorough? wtf? lol…ok now that DA admitted his mistake maybe he can get a good oline coach…but what does this do for pryor?
January 18th, 2013 at 11:14 pm
jackasspuria Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:11 pm
DJ Johnny
He actually looks like wrestler Shawn Micheals with short hair.
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Ha. Holy crap you’re right.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:14 pm
Okay! Back to Power offensive football!!!
Looks like he’s not averse to working with coloured QB’s either.
All the Best.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:15 pm
Well at least another silver and black team will be hoisting a banner tomorrow…Go Kings Go…
January 18th, 2013 at 11:15 pm
lol..,7k…true
January 18th, 2013 at 11:15 pm
I don’t really think of him that much, doc. He’s in your head and spare me your educational explanations. Actually, spare all of us.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:15 pm
Steve should’ve broken this article in half. Give us one now and the other on Sunday. Help out our refresh speed.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:15 pm
dr_robert Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:12 pm
missdick will love him.
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You sure? He’s missing one important quality.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:16 pm
KRON Breaking News:
“An African-American man dressed in “Afro-centric” garb went on a rampage moments ago. He was screaming “Olsen!!! Pryor!!!” repeatedly as he hit himself in the dick with a hammer.”
January 18th, 2013 at 11:17 pm
He’s the perfect 5th man in the clown squad! Can’t wait for the presser.. lol
January 18th, 2013 at 11:17 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:14 pm
lengthy and thorough? wtf? lol…ok now that DA admitted his mistake maybe he can get a good oline coach…but what does this do for pryor?
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well, he did help joey harrington.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:17 pm
CDERaider Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:14 pm
#1 pick in 2014 book it baby!
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What don’t u like about him?
January 18th, 2013 at 11:18 pm
Jaguars site had some stuff on their OC not having much to work with with in Gabbert and I assume the QB coach would suffer the same limitations.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:18 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:14 pm
Okay! Back to Power offensive football!!!
Looks like he’s not averse to working with coloured QB’s either.
All the Best.
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coloured? french antiquated racist!
January 18th, 2013 at 11:19 pm
Love the midnight announcement – keepin it on the down lo!
January 18th, 2013 at 11:20 pm
Dont understand all that hate… realistically, Dennis Allen is a young coach, and just alone eliminates most candidates.
He’s bringing back the Power blocking scheme, and likes to go vertical….already better than Knapp.
People just want to hate on anything…
January 18th, 2013 at 11:20 pm
32.dr_robert Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:16 pm
KRON Breaking News:
“An African-American man dressed in “Afro-centric” garb went on a rampage moments ago. He was screaming “Olsen!!! Pryor!!!” repeatedly as he hit himself in the dick with a hammer.”
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Well if Olsen named Pryor the Week 1 starter, and if I know the man, then that hammer would crack in half upon impact.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:20 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:15 pm
I don’t really think of him that much, doc. He’s in your head and spare me your educational explanations. Actually, spare all of us.
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i just threw out some beer that was in my garage for a year. maybe u want it?
January 18th, 2013 at 11:20 pm
looks like olson likes his te’s….need a better one than myers…use ausberry.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:20 pm
Lets hope he helps Palmer by developing our WR’s…
January 18th, 2013 at 11:20 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:18 pm
Jaguars site had some stuff on their OC not having much to work with with in Gabbert and I assume the QB coach would suffer the same limitations.
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sounds like this board!
January 18th, 2013 at 11:21 pm
GREAT FKIN HIRE FELLERS! CHAMPIONSHIP!!!
January 18th, 2013 at 11:22 pm
Draft Ertz wonder if he will fall to the 3rd Rnd
January 18th, 2013 at 11:22 pm
KoolKell Says:
Looks like he’s not averse to working with coloured QB’s either.
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Lot of NFL OC’s averse to working with colourds at any position these days. Just doesn’t pay off. DC’s, too.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:22 pm
504 Raider Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:20 pm
32.dr_robert Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:16 pm
KRON Breaking News:
“An African-American man dressed in “Afro-centric” garb went on a rampage moments ago. He was screaming “Olsen!!! Pryor!!!” repeatedly as he hit himself in the dick with a hammer.”
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Well if Olsen named Pryor the Week 1 starter, and if I know the man, then that hammer would crack in half upon impact.
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LOL. does olson run the pistol-spread-read-otpion-athingy?
January 18th, 2013 at 11:22 pm
Dr Dumbass, you’re melting downnnnnnnnn
January 18th, 2013 at 11:23 pm
I’m way more positive about Olson than Knapp. 5-11 here we come!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 18th, 2013 at 11:23 pm
developed jon kitba at centrsl washington u
January 18th, 2013 at 11:23 pm
Where you live?
January 18th, 2013 at 11:23 pm
This is exactly the kind of OC I knew DA wanted, a guy who’s nonthreatening a good soldier who’ll do as he’s told and shut the hell up even if he knows better.
DA is hiring a bunch of yes-men with no HC experience this guy made a lateral move it seems. Great coaches rarely do that. I don’t know the guy fromm a can of paint so I have no idea what his true capabilities are. Is he a great playcaller or gameplanner. Is he a great strategist I have no clue.
But for DA it is business as usual collecting guys withh very little resume and aren’t proven. So we’re left with DA’s uninspiring leadership. The only saving grace we have at all in a leadership role is TP6. Now where he will get his direction from if Palmer is gone is anybodies guess
So we’ree left to wait and see as usual with the “Reggime” with nothing to get excited about.
Whoppee Gooo Rai?????? exactly who are these guys?
January 18th, 2013 at 11:23 pm
coloureds. this board just coined the word of the week. i especially love the “u”. tre chic.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:24 pm
Ok. He’s not a no name schlep from Murray St. or anything like many predicted we’d end up with.
He’s a credible hire. The kind of hire that wouldn’t seem weird if any other team in the league made it.
Maybe he’s not the top of the list…but a legit, qualified hire it appears.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:25 pm
Whoppee Gooo Rai??????
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first coloureds. now this. this is the best hire ever!
January 18th, 2013 at 11:25 pm
kitna at central wash
January 18th, 2013 at 11:26 pm
What a stark change of direction
January 18th, 2013 at 11:26 pm
RediaR Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:23 pm
I’m way more positive about Olson than Knapp. 5-11 here we come!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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HAHAHAHAHAHHAA!!!!
January 18th, 2013 at 11:26 pm
rediaR Says:
I’m way more positive about Olson than Knapp. 5-11 here we come!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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What!! Many of us were positive about Knapp. From the first time. 5-11 my ass. Why you here??
January 18th, 2013 at 11:26 pm
Well predictably DA goes with the guy who he will not be intimidated by and someone he feels won’t be a threat to his job.
Well at least the guy favors a power, gap running scheme.
Jury is still out though. Need to see who the OLine coach will be. It’s probably going to be Castillo.
Here is hoping Wylie and Wiz come back, but I doubt that happens. DA doesn’t want people that were successful under Hue.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:27 pm
He’s gonna help DMAC make a lot a green!!! Contract year…
January 18th, 2013 at 11:27 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:26 pm
What a stark change of direction
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stop it!!! this is the coaching hire of the year for comedy!
it would have only been better in here if we had actually hired screech from saved by the bell.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:27 pm
Now lets just hope RM doesn’t draft Lennay Kekua at #3.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:27 pm
We $UCK.
Weeks and Weeks and this is all we got?!? Thorough search my a$$ – nobody wants to work here. Coffee cake neck you need to go.
One and Done – write it down.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:27 pm
What exactly was THE REQUIREMENT to be OC for the Raiders under DA???
DA: What’s your name?
Olsen: Greg Olsen
DA: Your 1st name is Greg?
Olsen: Yes
DA: Ummm…Welcome to the uhhh Raiders!
January 18th, 2013 at 11:27 pm
Thank Almighty Gawd it wasn’t Mike Martz!!!!!!!
January 18th, 2013 at 11:28 pm
Priesttj12
Self preservation is one of the key human traits.
Not surprised DA hired someone ‘non-threatening’.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:28 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:23 pm
This is exactly the kind of OC I knew DA wanted, a guy who’s nonthreatening a good soldier who’ll do as he’s told and shut the hell up even if he knows better.
DA is hiring a bunch of yes-men with no HC experience this guy made a lateral move it seems. Great coaches rarely do that. I don’t know the guy fromm a can of paint so I have no idea what his true capabilities are. Is he a great playcaller or gameplanner. Is he a great strategist I have no clue.
But for DA it is business as usual collecting guys withh very little resume and aren’t proven. So we’re left with DA’s uninspiring leadership. The only saving grace we have at all in a leadership role is TP6. Now where he will get his direction from if Palmer is gone is anybodies guess
So we’ree left to wait and see as usual with the “Reggime” with nothing to get excited about.
Whoppee Gooo Rai?????? exactly who are these guys
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I hear what your saying, but i think you have to take into account that he’s the youngest head coach, and very few experienced coaches would work for him.
Coaching is a fraternity. and he’s new to the game
January 18th, 2013 at 11:28 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
This is exactly the kind of OC I knew DA wanted, a guy who’s nonthreatening a good soldier who’ll do as he’s told and shut the hell up even if he knows better.
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You see that picture, TJ?
January 18th, 2013 at 11:29 pm
tb newspaper on olson….
“But I can’t tell you what kind of offense the Bucs run. They say they want to run the ball and go deep on play-action, but they’re not actually doing it. Instead, they occasionally run the ball and have Freeman direct a semi-West Coast Offense without a real deep element to it. The disconnect between the rhetoric and the result is striking.”
January 18th, 2013 at 11:29 pm
does olson run a “space-age” offense?
January 18th, 2013 at 11:30 pm
Nice of em to give Corky a scoop.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:30 pm
Hate? I’m *lovin* this pick baby! A coach with a proven loser resume every place he’s been in the NFL? Lions, Rams, Bucs, and Jags. You know, the powerhouse teams?
Personally I’m stoked because it implies these certainties.
1) Olson came cheap. Real cheap. Has to has one of the lowest paid OC in the league (or one of the lowest). And maybe he even took a 1 year deal too!
2) The team will suck again next season and the entire staff will be fired at the end of the season.
3) We will have the #1 pick in next years ’super’ draft. Or at least a top 3.
4) The fact they hired another bum ensures me they are just holding water till the big move happens in 2014.
Awesome job Reggie/DA! You’re not as dumb as you look.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:30 pm
53.Priesttj12 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:23 pm
This is exactly the kind of OC I knew DA wanted, a guy who’s nonthreatening a good soldier who’ll do as he’s told and shut the hell up even if he knows better.
DA is hiring a bunch of yes-men with no HC experience this guy made a lateral move it seems. Great coaches rarely do that. I don’t know the guy fromm a can of paint so I have no idea what his true capabilities are. Is he a great playcaller or gameplanner. Is he a great strategist I have no clue.
But for DA it is business as usual collecting guys withh very little resume and aren’t proven. So we’re left with DA’s uninspiring leadership. The only saving grace we have at all in a leadership role is TP6. Now where he will get his direction from if Palmer is gone is anybodies guess
So we’ree left to wait and see as usual with the “Reggime” with nothing to get excited about.
Whoppee Gooo Rai?????? exactly who are these guys?
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Priest I forgot to cite you when I posted this in #16. I know you were thinking this at post #1 but it took you past 52 posts to get it down without 1 grammatical error. Good Job!!!
January 18th, 2013 at 11:30 pm
I like this hiring. It is about time. Thank you Cork! Good looking out!
January 18th, 2013 at 11:30 pm
He might salvage Palmer’s career, AFC championship game next year fellas…
January 18th, 2013 at 11:30 pm
KoolKell Says:
Thank Almighty Gawd it wasn’t Mike Martz!!!!!!!
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Carson, Terrelle, and Mr. X concur.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:31 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:24 pm
Ok. He’s not a no name schlep from Murray St. or anything like many predicted we’d end up with.
He’s a credible hire. The kind of hire that wouldn’t seem weird if any other team in the league made it.
Maybe he’s not the top of the list…but a legit, qualified hire it appears.
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All he needs to do is study the tape that led to McF being so stellar, and let Palmer run no-huddle like Brady and Peyton.
One of us could have done that.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:31 pm
more…”But worst of all, the players don’t seem to be progressing under Olson’s watch.”
January 18th, 2013 at 11:31 pm
Whoops, wrong NFL Greg Olson…NOT Olsen
January 18th, 2013 at 11:31 pm
Salvage is not the right word.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:33 pm
Freezetag168 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:27 pm
What exactly was THE REQUIREMENT to be OC for the Raiders under DA???
DA: What’s your name?
Olsen: Greg Olsen
DA: Your 1st name is Greg?
Olsen: Yes
DA: Ummm…Welcome to the uhhh Raiders!
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this is so much fun.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:33 pm
Steve Corkran@CorkOnTheNFL
Under Greg Olson, Rams in 2006 featured: 4,000-yard passer, 1,500-yard rusher, two 1,000-yard rushers. Palmer, McFadden, Moore, DHB in 2013?
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He wasn’t the playcaller was he? I think the right OC could get this type of production out of these players, if everyone stayed healthy last season Hue could of came close to gettin this kind of production. Lets hope he’s the right guy, him being a fan of POWER BLOCKING already makes him way better than the Knapp hire already.
I think Cork maybe drinkin though
January 18th, 2013 at 11:33 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:27 pm
Thank Almighty Gawd it wasn’t Mike Martz!!!!!!!
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martz—–warner
olson—–harrington
January 18th, 2013 at 11:33 pm
Im not jumping up and down. I saw this guy and thought he was calling some boring offensive plays in tampa and was holding Josh freeman back. Hope I was wrong but oh god
January 18th, 2013 at 11:34 pm
Gdog Says:
One of us could have done that.
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Almost. Carson, you got this offense under control? Absolutely!., OK, then, run it!
January 18th, 2013 at 11:34 pm
Olson previously served as the quarterbacks coach of the Detroit Lions, where he worked with Joey Harrington. He served as Lions offensive coordinator following the firing of Steve Mariucci and the demotion of Ted Tollner during the 2005 season.
He was the offensive coordinator of the St. Louis Rams.
During his first season in St. Louis, he did not call the offensive plays for the team until near the end of the year. He developed game plans with head coach Scott Linehan, and worked to develop the offense in general. Linehan decided to hand over play-calling duties to Olson so that he could manage games better, without having to focus on one side of the ball.
Olson was fired after the 2007 season.
In January 2008, Olson was hired by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to be their quarterbacks coach following the dismissal of Paul Hackett. On September 3, 2009, the day before the team’s final preseason game, the Buccaneers announced that Olson would replace Jeff Jagodzinski as Offensive Coordinator.[2]
He was fired on January 2, 2012, after his team posted a 4–12 record.
In January 2012, Olson was hired to be the quarterbacks coach for the Jacksonville Jaguars.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:34 pm
This guy has *major* street cred dudes! How’s this for a power resume, huh??
Olson previously served as the quarterbacks coach of the Detroit Lions, where he worked with Joey Harrington. He served as Lions offensive coordinator following the firing of Steve Mariucci and the demotion of Ted Tollner during the 2005 season.
He was the offensive coordinator of the St. Louis Rams. During his first season in St. Louis, he did not call the offensive plays for the team until near the end of the year. He developed game plans with head coach Scott Linehan, and worked to develop the offense in general. Linehan decided to hand over play-calling duties to Olson so that he could manage games better, without having to focus on one side of the ball. Olson was fired after the 2007 season.[1]
In January 2008, Olson was hired by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to be their quarterbacks coach following the dismissal of Paul Hackett. On September 3, 2009, the day before the team’s final preseason game, the Buccaneers announced that Olson would replace Jeff Jagodzinski as Offensive Coordinator.[2] He was fired on January 2, 2012, after his team posted a 4–12 record.[3]
In January 2012, Olson was hired to be the quarterbacks coach for the Jacksonville Jaguars.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:34 pm
dam already hate and he hasnt even called one play for us, lol.
anything is better than the mess we witnessed last season. i figured they would make a hire before heading out to coach the senior bowl. makes sense, get a first look at what could possibly boost any chance we have next season. we have a hell of a list of opponents next season, give the man a chance. as schitty as the jags have been, MJD has torn it up. by the way, pocket hurcules down south in harlingen, texas (my part of town) yesterday…..DAAAAAAM!
RAIDER FAHQIN NATION BABY!!!
January 18th, 2013 at 11:35 pm
MarcusAllen Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:27 pm
We $UCK.
Weeks and Weeks and this is all we got?!? Thorough search my a$$ – nobody wants to work here. Coffee cake neck you need to go.
One and Done – write it down.
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Yuuuuuuup!
We hire a 3rd tier OC who will be slightly better than crappy Knapp, who will not threaten DA’s job.
Chances are this will be Olsens last chance as an OC in the NFL just like last year was Knapps last chance.
Olsen can’t be as bad of a strategist, play caller as Knapp was can he? Can also be as bad as Knapp was when it came to making adjustments?
We shall see….
January 18th, 2013 at 11:35 pm
Cork had to leave the SF club scene a little early…
January 18th, 2013 at 11:35 pm
Credited with Freemans flourishing. Where you guys get this crap!!
January 18th, 2013 at 11:35 pm
This ain’t saying much but this guy was ripping Tarver/DA a new one until Gabbert got injured.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:36 pm
STR checks in. You know we’re happening.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:36 pm
Introducing…. (drum roll please)
DA’s new golfing partner!!! (yahhhh!!!!)
http://images.teamtalk.com/08/01/800×600/Greg_Olson_619186.jpg
January 18th, 2013 at 11:36 pm
No way we can recover Barksdale of OL? The idea of Briesel over Barksdale for power OL doesn’t resonate well. BTW, who’s idea was it to can Barksdale?
January 18th, 2013 at 11:37 pm
Well, junking the ZBS is aight with me. Quite a rebuke.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:37 pm
DaTruth91 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:28 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:23 pm
This is exactly the kind of OC I knew DA wanted, a guy who’s nonthreatening a good soldier who’ll do as he’s told and shut the hell up even if he knows better.
DA is hiring a bunch of yes-men with no HC experience this guy made a lateral move it seems. Great coaches rarely do that. I don’t know the guy fromm a can of paint so I have no idea what his true capabilities are. Is he a great playcaller or gameplanner. Is he a great strategist I have no clue.
But for DA it is business as usual collecting guys withh very little resume and aren’t proven. So we’re left with DA’s uninspiring leadership. The only saving grace we have at all in a leadership role is TP6. Now where he will get his direction from if Palmer is gone is anybodies guess
So we’ree left to wait and see as usual with the “Reggime” with nothing to get excited about.
Whoppee Gooo Rai?????? exactly who are these guys
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I hear what your saying, but i think you have to take into account that he’s the youngest head coach, and very few experienced coaches would work for him.
Coaching is a fraternity. and he’s new to the game
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Son you are decieving yourself coaches want jobs if there is one available. Norv Turner was perfect for this jobif he were given a chance. He is the single best playcaller in this greta game. On par with Mike Shanahan he is a supreme gameplanner. Many want a read option OC I wanted a pure proset OC because TP6 adds all the read option you need with his athletic ability.
Incidently the read option is an easy add for a coach of Norv’s expertise. B ut what he would’ve done for TP6 is gave him a solid foundation in pocket passing and then branch out from there. That is where TP6 weaknesses are in pocket play and Norv is the master at that. Running is natural to TP6 he needs no tutor when it comes to making bigtime plays with his feet. Rushing TP all out is damn near suicide…………period
January 18th, 2013 at 11:37 pm
504 Raider Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:35 pm
This ain’t saying much but this guy was ripping Tarver/DA a new one until Gabbert got injured.
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That’s a good thing now, right?
January 18th, 2013 at 11:38 pm
Olson will be the Broncos WR coach in 2014
January 18th, 2013 at 11:38 pm
I hated the ZBS, didn’t I?
January 18th, 2013 at 11:38 pm
CDERaider
DA hired wrestler Shawn Micheals (with shorter hair of course) to run his offense!
Sweet Chin Music in 2013!
January 18th, 2013 at 11:38 pm
CDERaider Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:34 pm
This guy has *major* street cred dudes! How’s this for a power resume, huh??
Olson previously served as the quarterbacks coach of the Detroit Lions, where he worked with Joey Harrington. He served as Lions offensive coordinator following the firing of Steve Mariucci and the demotion of Ted Tollner during the 2005 season.
He was the offensive coordinator of the St. Louis Rams. During his first season in St. Louis, he did not call the offensive plays for the team until near the end of the year. He developed game plans with head coach Scott Linehan, and worked to develop the offense in general. Linehan decided to hand over play-calling duties to Olson so that he could manage games better, without having to focus on one side of the ball. Olson was fired after the 2007 season.[1]
In January 2008, Olson was hired by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to be their quarterbacks coach following the dismissal of Paul Hackett. On September 3, 2009, the day before the team’s final preseason game, the Buccaneers announced that Olson would replace Jeff Jagodzinski as Offensive Coordinator.[2] He was fired on January 2, 2012, after his team posted a 4–12 record.[3]
In January 2012, Olson was hired to be the quarterbacks coach for the Jacksonville Jaguars.
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Yep! At least he prefers a power scheme huh? haha
With the 1st pick in the 2014 NFL Draft the Oakland Raiders select……..JADEVEON CLOWNEY, DE, SOUTH CAROLINA!
January 18th, 2013 at 11:39 pm
I wonder if Cork got some comped Groupons from House of Pancakes for throwing in the words ‘well-regarded’ in the article title?
January 18th, 2013 at 11:39 pm
Freezetag168 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:36 pm
No way we can recover Barksdale of OL? The idea of Briesel over Barksdale for power OL doesn’t resonate well. BTW, who’s idea was it to can Barksdale?
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Warmack 2013!
January 18th, 2013 at 11:40 pm
fvckin stoopid to let bruce campbell and barksdale go and now? bergstrom and carlisle…
January 18th, 2013 at 11:40 pm
CDERaider Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:36 pm
Introducing…. (drum roll please)
DA’s new golfing partner!!! (yahhhh!!!!)
http://images.teamtalk.com/08/01/800×600/Greg_Olson_619186.jpg
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Oh! This is the guy? I think I know this guy he looks very very familiar. What is his bio?
We have crossed paths I’m sure of it….
January 18th, 2013 at 11:40 pm
#103 maybe he can hire HHH to coach the linebackers…
January 18th, 2013 at 11:40 pm
It’s amazing how many of us just ho-hum read and keep track here and popup when there’s something to talk about, isn’t it?
January 18th, 2013 at 11:41 pm
line up pics of DA, tarver, and olson. they look like fraternity brothers.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:41 pm
This guy has nearly zero play calling experience. This is a horrible hire. This is the only guy who will work here. Needs $$ and will work with Denise.
Did they mention an online coach? – cant read through my tears of sadness…
January 18th, 2013 at 11:41 pm
97.freezetag168 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:36 pm
No way we can recover Barksdale of OL? The idea of Briesel over Barksdale for power OL doesn’t resonate well. BTW, who’s idea was it to can Barksdale?
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Briesel should be better after Reggie had him shot up with some fix-a-flat last week.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:42 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:40 pm
fvckin stoopid to let bruce campbell and barksdale go and now? bergstrom and carlisle…
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why? neither one are doing anything.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:42 pm
504 Raider Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:35 pm
This ain’t saying much but this guy was ripping Tarver/DA a new one until Gabbert got injured.
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Well he was just there QB coach, which is probably better than being there OC……………maybe
January 18th, 2013 at 11:42 pm
briesel has been a career zbs hows he gonna fit?
January 18th, 2013 at 11:42 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:40 pm
fvckin stoopid to let bruce campbell and barksdale go and now? bergstrom and carlisle…
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This is exactly why I have been crying about that alll year LONG……..wasted picks of great young Olineman and we THREW them away………….flat out DUMB!!!
January 18th, 2013 at 11:43 pm
depth fool depth…
January 18th, 2013 at 11:43 pm
CDERaider Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:39 pm
I wonder if Cork got some comped Groupons from House of Pancakes for throwing in the words ‘well-regarded’ in the article title?
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Nacho tacos or something.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:43 pm
MarcusAllen Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:41 pm
This guy has nearly zero play calling experience. This is a horrible hire. This is the only guy who will work here. Needs $$ and will work with Denise.
Did they mention an online coach? – cant read through my tears of sadness…
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LOL. this board has turned out more high comedy in the last 15 minutes than the whole year. tears of sadness.
i CAN’T WAIT for certain guys to get here. it will be so……….wonderful.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:44 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:38 pm
I hated the ZBS, didn’t I?
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We all did Fake Kell…..well atleast the people that know there schit
January 18th, 2013 at 11:44 pm
CDERaider Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:39 pm
I wonder if Cork got some comped Groupons from House of Pancakes for throwing in the words ‘well-regarded’ in the article title?
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I found that hilarious also.
How can Cork throw in a “seasoned well regarded OC”??
Really?
Cork and is just one of the numb nut media guys in this town that wanted Hue Jackson fired.
So he is kissin up to his boy DA and milking it. haha
January 18th, 2013 at 11:44 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:42 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:40 pm
fvckin stoopid to let bruce campbell and barksdale go and now? bergstrom and carlisle…
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This is exactly why I have been crying about that alll year LONG……..wasted picks of great young Olineman and we THREW them away………….flat out DUMB!!!
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wait. bruce campbell? joseph barksdale? great young linemen?
January 18th, 2013 at 11:44 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:42 pm
briesel has been a career zbs hows he gonna fit?
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Precisely we are back to where we were 2 years ago when we had made some serious progress and this fat fool just guts the Oline and brings in a bunch of BUMS!!
January 18th, 2013 at 11:44 pm
tru freezetag, i forget that briesel was a guy knapp brought in from houston and we gave a nice chunk to him for lousy play, but wait, he was playing with injury almost all season, LOL.
i liked campbell more than barksdale, poor dudes were never given a chance imo.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:44 pm
Bring in Jay Gruden for 2014
January 18th, 2013 at 11:45 pm
this is why zbs sux aszsz the olinemen fit only this…the rbs fit only this…cya stewert, goodson….
January 18th, 2013 at 11:45 pm
can we please get back to a topic that really matters? racism.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:46 pm
Dr_robert Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:41 pm
line up pics of DA, tarver, and olson. they look like fraternity brothers.
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ΩΑΚ
January 18th, 2013 at 11:46 pm
So, they came in, watched film, and theorized the ZBS was a good fit for the personnel.
Next year they go back to power?
Quite a rebuke. Stunning.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:46 pm
SouthTexasRaider Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:44 pm
tru freezetag, i forget that briesel was a guy knapp brought in from houston and we gave a nice chunk to him for lousy play, but wait, he was playing with injury almost all season, LOL.
i liked campbell more than barksdale, poor dudes were never given a chance imo.
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they’ve been given chances in new places…….and still suck.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:47 pm
Dan78 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:44 pm
Bring in Jay Gruden for 2014
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Only if he changes his name to Greg Gruden
January 18th, 2013 at 11:47 pm
RediaR Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:46 pm
Dr_robert Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:41 pm
line up pics of DA, tarver, and olson. they look like fraternity brothers.
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LOL. Omega Alpha Kappa. what are fraternity’s track records for douchy-ness?
January 18th, 2013 at 11:48 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist
what up, its been a good while since i chimed in. i read the articles just havent posted. excuse me for asking but what was you handle before this one? i know a few have changed since i first posted on this site in 2005…..daaaaam, i just read that schit again, 2005??!!?? lol
RAIDER FAHQIN NATION!
January 18th, 2013 at 11:48 pm
greg gruden. this is like Christmas.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:48 pm
Dr_robert
Their fraternity would be Masta Beta Kai
January 18th, 2013 at 11:49 pm
Dr_robert Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:47 pm
RediaR Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:46 pm
Dr_robert Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:41 pm
line up pics of DA, tarver, and olson. they look like fraternity brothers.
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LOL. Omega Alpha Kappa. what are fraternity’s track records for douchy-ness?
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I don’t know but it probably involves a lot of vodka soaked tampons in anuses.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:49 pm
We gave away Kevin Boothe teh same way, he wasn’t good enough to play here when Cable took ove he brings in Kwame Harris and cuts 3 good young talented Olineman that Art Shell drafted we just wasted them.
Constant regression under the “Reggime”
January 18th, 2013 at 11:52 pm
new draft board…now trade down get two big nasties….
January 18th, 2013 at 11:52 pm
The Raiders ae chasing their tails……………period
January 18th, 2013 at 11:53 pm
The Raiders on Friday hired Greg Olson to be their offensive coordinator, a person familiar with the situation said.
Olson spent last season as the assistant head coach/quarterbacks coach for the Jacksonville Jaguars. He replaces Greg Knapp in Oakland and will work under coach Dennis Allen.
Olson has six years’ experience as an offensive coordinator in the NFL, including three with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, from 2009-11. During that time, Olson was credited with the rapid development of quarterback Josh Freeman into one of the league’s more promising players.
It’s also worth noting that Olson favors a power-blocking scheme, which means the zone-blocking scheme favored by Knapp and fired offensive line coach Frank Pollack are gone after one season.
That should help jump-start running back Darren McFadden, who averaged only 3.3 yards per carry in 2012 and never looked comfortable in the scheme.
Rams running back Steven Jackson had his best season in 2006, when Olson was his offensive coordinator.
Olson also worked with Drew Brees when both were at Purdue, and Olson was the quarterbacks coach.
Allen hired Olson after a lengthy and thorough search that included interviews with numerous high-profile candidates. In the end, Allen felt as if Olson is the best fit.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:53 pm
What is wrong with some of you people??
January 18th, 2013 at 11:53 pm
Veldheer & Wiz are probably happy.
January 18th, 2013 at 11:55 pm
he was OC for Gruden while in tampa. can’t be that bad!!
January 18th, 2013 at 11:56 pm
Veldheer-Warmack-Wiz-?/Bergy/Breisel-?/Barnes
January 18th, 2013 at 11:57 pm
dr_robert Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:45 pm
can we please get back to a topic that really matters? racism.
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Now dats funny!
applause
January 18th, 2013 at 11:57 pm
veldheer and wiz……man, they will be beasts!
January 18th, 2013 at 11:58 pm
Greg ‘Easy’ Olson will be introduced as the new Offensive Coordinator of the Oakland Raiders. This will be his 7th year as an offensive coordinator. He was previously the coordinator for the Lions in 2005 and was fired as the team finished 5-11. He was then hired as offensive coordinator by the St Louis Rams in 2006 when the team finished a respectable 8-8, although he did not call the plays during games. Olson was fired by the Rams after the 2007 season when the team finished 3-13. He then served 3 years in the Tampa Bay Bucs organization as offensive coordinator from 2009 to 2011 where he led the team to records of 3-13, 10-6, and 4-12 the last of which he was fired.
Record as OC:
2005 Lions – 5-11
2006-07 Rams – 11-21
2009-2011 Bucs – 17-31
Total: 33-63
I’d say we got ourselves a bonna fide gift-wrapped steamy sheett-stinkin ‘winner’ boys! Well, lets see what kind of a ‘top shelf’ oline coach old ‘Easy’ brings in.
It’s like Christmas… all over again!
January 18th, 2013 at 11:59 pm
Greg Brady for STC!
January 18th, 2013 at 11:59 pm
BLACK POWER!!
January 19th, 2013 at 12:00 am
Priesttj12 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:52 pm
The Raiders ae chasing their tails……………period
>> Vick is better than Elway…period.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:01 am
lopks like gregg likes him some visors…
January 19th, 2013 at 12:01 am
I was right hours ago…
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GG Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 9:17 am
See what I mean…forget about all these intriguing good name coaches coming here…
Pro Football Weekly @ProFootballWkly
RT @AdamSchefter: @mortreport reports Stanford’s Pep Hamilton is a leading candidate to become Andrew Luck’s director of offense for Colts.
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Imo you watch, it’ll be Greg Olson instead. Allen doesn’t want someone who threatens his job. Reggie is happy to oblige his “my guy” HC.
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GG Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 9:53 am
My money’s on Greg Olson.
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GG Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 5:18 pm
The RIGHT GUY is someone low-key who knows his place under Allen. They thought they could get away with Knapp last year but forgot we already know how bad Knapp is. So they’re replacing Knapp with another lesser known ‘Knapp’ that the fans will give two years before constantly questioning and second-guessing Allen’s authority and appearance of command/aplomb.
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GG Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 6:29 pm
Greg Olson is seriously Greg Knapp v2.0
Same kind of coach, same kind of guy who bounces around, never good enough outside of QB coach, someone who understands offensive principles well, but lacks all the x factor ingredients to translate into a good OC, same kind of low-key hard-working type who just serves his role and doesn’t attract attention away from the HC or rock the boat.
This is EXACTLY what Allen wants when he says “right guy” and it was evident with the Greg Knapp hire. So i expect Olson to be right up his alley.
It’s that greedy with power and out of his depth thing.
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GG Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 6:56 pm
No, Allen has ear-marked Greg Olson for a long while now. Book it. They’re just blowing smoke up our azzes by suggesting they’ve genuinely interviewed anyone else. Raiders just want to wait longer, make it look like they did due diligence in hiring the “right guy”. If they announced last week or earlier, when all these hot coaches were still available, it’d create bad impressions. This way, they can pretend they got the one they always wanted, but did diligence interviewing other people (like Martz).
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GG Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 7:07 pm
The more pressing grr for me right now is that if there was any doubt before, or any post-season hope of optimism that reggie/allen worked out their rookie mistakes and are now clued in…there will be no doubt when they announce the hiring of Greg Olson (or similar if its a packers position coach). These guys have are really out of their depth. They’re so mediocre as a GM and as a HC. Fear more failure and aggravation in 2013. Wait and see who they announce. This blog will meltdown once again, all will realize even more. The few pro-Reggie people will start leaning more towards the fire Reggie crew.
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January 19th, 2013 at 12:01 am
looks like gregg likes him some visors…
January 19th, 2013 at 12:01 am
I am down with this “Anyone But Knapp” hire. “ABK”
BTW, I think I saw some astute poster predict this today earlier.
Well done.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:01 am
jtstretch Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:55 pm
he was OC for Gruden while in tampa. can’t be that bad!!
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Sorry, but no. Gruden was fired in the middle of the 2008 season. Olson was hired in 2009 by Raheem Morris.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:01 am
Had we kept the HC we had and went out and got a much better DC like a Mike Nolan to go along with Hue Jackson we would have several playes we gave away and played players that could’ve helped us last year. And be going into ou 3rd year in the same offense, which would make us a contending team by now.
This fat ass fool scraps everything only to in one season try to get it back. His pride and arrogance has cost us tons. And his refusal to cut the cord with his boring ass HC will cost us another year.
Get Reggie a boss who knows what he’s doing so this fool can stop killing us……….or FIRE HIM OUTRIGHT!!
January 19th, 2013 at 12:02 am
I betcha Greg can wear the sheet outta some visors!! It’ll be the Visor club! Straight from the golf course to the sidelines! Here we go boys!!!
January 19th, 2013 at 12:03 am
Here you go GG http://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/kbiros/kbiros0912/kbiros091200002/6118720-chocolate-chip-cookie.jpg
January 19th, 2013 at 12:03 am
gg you nailed it…
January 19th, 2013 at 12:03 am
Priesttj12 Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:01 am
Had we kept the HC we had and went out and got a much better DC like a Mike Nolan to go along with Hue Jackson we would have several playes we gave away and played players that could’ve helped us last year. And be going into ou 3rd year in the same offense, which would make us a contending team by now.
This fat ass fool scraps everything only to in one season try to get it back. His pride and arrogance has cost us tons. And his refusal to cut the cord with his boring ass HC will cost us another year.
Get Reggie a boss who knows what he’s doing so this fool can stop killing us……….or FIRE HIM OUTRIGHT!!
>> you just want RM to fail cuz he’s black. I’m calling Al Sharpton
January 19th, 2013 at 12:04 am
What someone wrote:
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Another issue: the Bucs don’t seem prepared to play these games. Time and again they fail to come out of the gate firing. The Bucs haven’t scored a first-quarter touchdown on offense in nine straight games now. The last time they scored one was against the Atlanta Falcons in week 13 of last year. It feels like the team simply isn’t prepared to play a game once they step onto the field.
But worst of all, the players don’t seem to be progressing under Olson’s watch. This is a young team that needs quality coaching to progress, but almost to a man the team’s young skill players have regressed. …
Full link here: http://www.bucsnation.com/2011/11/14/2559632/greg-olson-buccaneers-offensive-coordinator-tampa-bay
January 19th, 2013 at 12:05 am
well thats that…if da and reggie fail again this year….mark needs to tell them to go play on the freeway…
January 19th, 2013 at 12:05 am
CDERaider Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:01 am
jtstretch Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:55 pm
he was OC for Gruden while in tampa. can’t be that bad!!
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Sorry, but no. Gruden was fired in the middle of the 2008 season. Olson was hired in 2009 by Raheem Morris.
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read it on ESPN…my bad i guess
January 19th, 2013 at 12:07 am
GG Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 6:56 pm
No, Allen has ear-marked Greg Olson for a long while now. Book it. They’re just blowing smoke up our azzes by suggesting they’ve genuinely interviewed anyone else. Raiders just want to wait longer, make it look like they did due diligence in hiring the “right guy”. If they announced last week or earlier, when all these hot coaches were still available, it’d create bad impressions. This way, they can pretend they got the one they always wanted, but did diligence interviewing other people (like Martz).
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This is exactly what they did, they know the Raider Nation would have been ecstatic over Norv if we had known he was interviewing so they kept it hush. Waited until he got a job elsewhere so they could spring this yes-man on us and say he was the best of what was left. DA didn’t want a strong leader experienced OC with HC experience or Norv would be here…….period
January 19th, 2013 at 12:07 am
jtstretch Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:05 am
CDERaider Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:01 am
jtstretch Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:55 pm
he was OC for Gruden while in tampa. can’t be that bad!!
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Sorry, but no. Gruden was fired in the middle of the 2008 season. Olson was hired in 2009 by Raheem Morris.
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read it on ESPN…my bad i guess
>. yeah your bad. you have to be 100% factual and know everything before you can post on here. this blog is where GMs go to get the facts
January 19th, 2013 at 12:07 am
MarcusAllen Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:04 am
What someone wrote:
…
Another issue: the Bucs don’t seem prepared to play these games. Time and again they fail to come out of the gate firing. The Bucs haven’t scored a first-quarter touchdown on offense in nine straight games now. The last time they scored one was against the Atlanta Falcons in week 13 of last year. It feels like the team simply isn’t prepared to play a game once they step onto the field.
But worst of all, the players don’t seem to be progressing under Olson’s watch. This is a young team that needs quality coaching to progress, but almost to a man the team’s young skill players have regressed. …
Full link here: http://www.bucsnation.com/2011/11/14/2559632/greg-olson-buccaneers-offensive-coordinator-tampa-bay
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He’s a perfect fit in Oakland. Thanks Dennis. Or, can I call you Denny?
Seriously, these guys are going to be tearing up the links in the East Bay!
January 19th, 2013 at 12:08 am
Olson runs the infamous run,run,strip sack offense.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:08 am
GG Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 9:53 am
My money’s on Greg Olson.
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Well played.
How much do you actually know about him though? I am hoping for a guy not anal enough to allow CP to run at least 50% no-huddle.
If he is another Knapp and wants to call his own plays just because he wants to.. we are screwed.
CP is a no-huddle QB, IMO. Nothing else.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:09 am
Also I don’t think DA took kindly to Norv’s apparent favor for TP6. This allows him to continue with his charade of ‘he’s not ready yet’ crap.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:09 am
Mistic666 Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:07 am
jtstretch Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:05 am
CDERaider Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:01 am
jtstretch Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:55 pm
he was OC for Gruden while in tampa. can’t be that bad!!
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Sorry, but no. Gruden was fired in the middle of the 2008 season. Olson was hired in 2009 by Raheem Morris.
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read it on ESPN…my bad i guess
>. yeah your bad. you have to be 100% factual and know everything before you can post on here. this blog is where GMs go to get the facts
ya…ok…. let me get the salt out of my slit like the rest of you so i can be just like
you.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:09 am
GG Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:01 am
I was right hours ago…
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GG Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 9:17 am
See what I mean…forget about all these intriguing good name coaches coming here…
Pro Football Weekly @ProFootballWkly
RT @AdamSchefter: @mortreport reports Stanford’s Pep Hamilton is a leading candidate to become Andrew Luck’s director of offense for Colts.
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Imo you watch, it’ll be Greg Olson instead. Allen doesn’t want someone who threatens his job. Reggie is happy to oblige his “my guy” HC.
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GG Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 9:53 am
My money’s on Greg Olson.
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GG Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 5:18 pm
The RIGHT GUY is someone low-key who knows his place under Allen. They thought they could get away with Knapp last year but forgot we already know how bad Knapp is. So they’re replacing Knapp with another lesser known ‘Knapp’ that the fans will give two years before constantly questioning and second-guessing Allen’s authority and appearance of command/aplomb.
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GG Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 6:29 pm
Greg Olson is seriously Greg Knapp v2.0
Same kind of coach, same kind of guy who bounces around, never good enough outside of QB coach, someone who understands offensive principles well, but lacks all the x factor ingredients to translate into a good OC, same kind of low-key hard-working type who just serves his role and doesn’t attract attention away from the HC or rock the boat.
This is EXACTLY what Allen wants when he says “right guy” and it was evident with the Greg Knapp hire. So i expect Olson to be right up his alley.
It’s that greedy with power and out of his depth thing.
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GG Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 6:56 pm
No, Allen has ear-marked Greg Olson for a long while now. Book it. They’re just blowing smoke up our azzes by suggesting they’ve genuinely interviewed anyone else. Raiders just want to wait longer, make it look like they did due diligence in hiring the “right guy”. If they announced last week or earlier, when all these hot coaches were still available, it’d create bad impressions. This way, they can pretend they got the one they always wanted, but did diligence interviewing other people (like Martz).
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GG Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 7:07 pm
The more pressing grr for me right now is that if there was any doubt before, or any post-season hope of optimism that reggie/allen worked out their rookie mistakes and are now clued in…there will be no doubt when they announce the hiring of Greg Olson (or similar if its a packers position coach). These guys have are really out of their depth. They’re so mediocre as a GM and as a HC. Fear more failure and aggravation in 2013. Wait and see who they announce. This blog will meltdown once again, all will realize even more. The few pro-Reggie people will start leaning more towards the fire Reggie crew.
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Yep. Olsen is the same type of coach Knapp is. Just Olsen prefers a “power scheme” allegedly.
Not gonna matter, this team will be competing for the #1 pick next year. Just watch.
McK might as well trade down get more picks and get Warmack and a Center or RT in Rounds 1 and 2. Build the OLine and set it up to a power O and the grab a pass rushing DE/OLB in Round 3. Then a NT/DT in Round 4.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:09 am
Choice comments:
Another demotion for a former Bucs coach from last year. Offensive Coordinator to being a qb coach for Blaine Freaking Gabbert. Overall, this isn’t a bad hire because he developed Freeman pretty well his second year. Just don’t let him call the plays.
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Good luck on this one, Jacksonville. If he’s even half as awful as a QB coach as he was an OC, well, RIP Blaine Gabbert. The only reason he isnt universally recognized as one of the worst OCs in a long time is because he was in Tampa. Believe me, this guy was WORSE than Schottenheimer and Mularkey. His incompetence was borderline frightening at times.
Full link here:http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/20/greg-olson-takes-on-a-challenging-job-jaguars-quarterbacks-coach/
January 19th, 2013 at 12:09 am
Priesttj12 Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:09 am
Also I don’t think DA took kindly to Norv’s apparent favor for TP6. This allows him to continue with his charade of ‘he’s not ready yet’ crap.
>. Pryor is ready to play WR.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:10 am
Damn. I tried to get season tickets, but they’ve completely sold out since the Olson news broke.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:11 am
It’s amazing how stupid and stubborn Davis, McK and Allen are.
How can you destroy the whole offense from the previous two years, when that was the strength of the team and then go ZBS??
Idiots. Most of us Raider fans who knew what not do, knew this and Davis, McK and Allen didn’t??
Oy vey!
January 19th, 2013 at 12:12 am
Seriously guys. Come on now, join the team. Let’s all wear these from now on to all games and social gatherings.
http://a248.e.akamai.net/origin-cdn.volusion.com/hoq56.jmb65/v/vspfiles/photos/H014-2.jpg
Show our pride and respect to the top coaching staff in the league. Al would be proud!
January 19th, 2013 at 12:12 am
yeah Olson must suck ass as an OC if it took him THIS long to get hired somewhere. he was the 20th option.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:13 am
MarcusAllen Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:09 am
Choice comments:
Another demotion for a former Bucs coach from last year. Offensive Coordinator to being a qb coach for Blaine Freaking Gabbert. Overall, this isn’t a bad hire because he developed Freeman pretty well his second year. Just don’t let him call the plays.
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Good luck on this one, Jacksonville. If he’s even half as awful as a QB coach as he was an OC, well, RIP Blaine Gabbert. The only reason he isnt universally recognized as one of the worst OCs in a long time is because he was in Tampa. Believe me, this guy was WORSE than Schottenheimer and Mularkey. His incompetence was borderline frightening at times.
Full link here:http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/20/greg-olson-takes-on-a-challenging-job-jaguars-quarterbacks-coach/
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Yep. Knapp 2.0
Oooffff!
January 19th, 2013 at 12:13 am
Is this the power blockng version of Greg Knapp?
January 19th, 2013 at 12:13 am
DKnight007 Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:11 am
It’s amazing how stupid and stubborn Davis, McK and Allen are.
How can you destroy the whole offense from the previous two years, when that was the strength of the team and then go ZBS??
Idiots. Most of us Raider fans who knew what not do, knew this and Davis, McK and Allen didn’t??
Oy vey!
>> almost like MD is trying to tank it so they can move to LA. same thing the Sac Kings have been doing, sucking ass for years so people get sick of them and then moving.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:14 am
rediaR Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 10:47 pm
It’s possible he is the opposite of Knapp and is a terrible QB coach but a good OC.
Positive outlook part 2: We are talking about Blaine Gabbert.++++++++++
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Thank god for the deep thinkers like you. We should cut Palmer and sign Gabbert.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:14 am
RediaR Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:10 am
Damn. I tried to get season tickets, but they’ve completely sold out since the Olson news broke.
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LMAO! You can have my seats, friend. I’m not renewing.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:14 am
Greg “run,run,sack fumble” Olson!!!! lets all cheer
January 19th, 2013 at 12:14 am
mistic666 Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:08 am
Olson runs the infamous run,run,strip sack offense.
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LOL! Where 3 and outs are considered ‘explosive plays’.
Hilarious..
January 19th, 2013 at 12:16 am
The Kings moved?
January 19th, 2013 at 12:16 am
Priesttj12 Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:09 am
Also I don’t think DA took kindly to Norv’s apparent favor for TP6. This allows him to continue with his charade of ‘he’s not ready yet’ crap.
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The homers in here can slice it up and serve it with whatever topping they like. Fact is we let a good one get away in Norv Turner and now have Greg Knapp with power blocking. The circus act returns in 2013 for an encore!
January 19th, 2013 at 12:17 am
Try Some Reality Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:13 am
Is this the power blockng version of Greg Knapp?
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Sure seems like it!
Davis and McK just wasting time with DA and clown posse of coaches.
The Raiders and Jags will be battling for the #1 overall pick next year.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:17 am
if this dude sucked ass in TB he’ll make waves here
January 19th, 2013 at 12:17 am
Priesttj12 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:37 pm
DaTruth91 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:28 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:23 pm
This is exactly the kind of OC I knew DA wanted, a guy who’s nonthreatening a good soldier who’ll do as he’s told and shut the hell up even if he knows better.
DA is hiring a bunch of yes-men with no HC experience this guy made a lateral move it seems. Great coaches rarely do that. I don’t know the guy fromm a can of paint so I have no idea what his true capabilities are. Is he a great playcaller or gameplanner. Is he a great strategist I have no clue.
But for DA it is business as usual collecting guys withh very little resume and aren’t proven. So we’re left with DA’s uninspiring leadership. The only saving grace we have at all in a leadership role is TP6. Now where he will get his direction from if Palmer is gone is anybodies guess
So we’ree left to wait and see as usual with the “Reggime” with nothing to get excited about.
Whoppee Gooo Rai?????? exactly who are these guys
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I hear what your saying, but i think you have to take into account that he’s the youngest head coach, and very few experienced coaches would work for him.
Coaching is a fraternity. and he’s new to the game
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Son you are decieving yourself coaches want jobs if there is one available. Norv Turner was perfect for this jobif he were given a chance. He is the single best playcaller in this greta game. On par with Mike Shanahan he is a supreme gameplanner. Many want a read option OC I wanted a pure proset OC because TP6 adds all the read option you need with his athletic ability.
Incidently the read option is an easy add for a coach of Norv’s expertise. B ut what he would’ve done for TP6 is gave him a solid foundation in pocket passing and then branch out from there. That is where TP6 weaknesses are in pocket play and Norv is the master at that. Running is natural to TP6 he needs no tutor when it comes to making bigtime plays with his feet. Rushing TP all out is damn near suicide…………period
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First of, who the fuK are you referring to as son???
Second, You are proving my point Clown. If you read Reggie’s transcript, he said he reached out to Norv and that Norv should no interest in the raiders.. I mean, he choice the Browns offense over the raiders….
Idiot…
January 19th, 2013 at 12:17 am
GG Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 6:29 pm
Greg Olson is seriously Greg Knapp v2.0
Same kind of coach, same kind of guy who bounces around, never good enough outside of QB coach, someone who understands offensive principles well, but lacks all the x factor ingredients to translate into a good OC, same kind of low-key hard-working type who just serves his role and doesn’t attract attention away from the HC or rock the boat.
This is EXACTLY what Allen wants when he says “right guy” and it was evident with the Greg Knapp hire. So i expect Olson to be right up his alley.
It’s that greedy with power and out of his depth thing.
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I’m consistently underwhelmed by this managments moves I read the article from the Buc’s. He is Knapp all ovber again just a different system.
DA will lead us to another 4-12 seqson if NOT worse and TP6 can forget ever getting a fair shake under Reggie and DA. That much is very clear……….period
January 19th, 2013 at 12:19 am
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:16 am
The Kings moved?
>. not yet. if you want to move a team just lose 75% of your games for 10 years and draft buster after buster, hire sharpie boy and design a gameplan that doesn’t fit your players. sounds like a tank job. I’m sure I’m wrong.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:21 am
coaching senior bowl with a first look at the draft pool AND a #3 pick, mcfadden on a contract year, palmer coming off a 4,000 yard season……as a long time Raider fan in texas i can only look at the glass half full.
regardless of how it will come out, i will attend the two games in texas this season and sport my gear.
fahq the texans and cowgirls!
RAIDER FAHQIN NATION BABY!
January 19th, 2013 at 12:21 am
Coffee Cake neck you $uck. Even he knows it.
This is a minimum wage only guy who will work with Denise hire.
Mark will sell the team next year due to tax laws.
And we will rejoice.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:21 am
Thanks for the cookies and accolades
I’ll repost something else I said yesterday. Mainly the first or second paragraph focusing on.
Ie, get used to the pain, all those still hopeful, optimistic, of Reggie too, will see the light eventually.
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GG Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 6:22 pm
I think that’s the key. Most everyone is genuinely thinking this new regime is clued in, here for the long-term, things will improve, we’ll have a new stadium built for us, we become a powerhouse under Reggie/Allen winning Lombardis. Their error is in still holding hope and taking everything at face value, believing what they’re being told by shill beat writers and Reggie/Allen.
The reality is there’s only more pain ahead. 2-5 win seasons, empty stadiums, gutted rosters, bad drafting (clinksales remember), bad coaching, schemes, AFC West only getting stronger and us an embarrassment like Browns in the AFC North. Ultimately a new ownership group altogether, a move to LA, lost traditions/changed uniforms etc.
That last bit would be devastating to me. I just want the Raiders to remain the Raiders (Raiders Football) the same us-vs-them identity, uniforms, family, tradition. Just they’re actually strong, attracting top coaches/players.
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January 19th, 2013 at 12:21 am
Priesttj12 Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:17 am
GG Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 6:29 pm
Greg Olson is seriously Greg Knapp v2.0
Same kind of coach, same kind of guy who bounces around, never good enough outside of QB coach, someone who understands offensive principles well, but lacks all the x factor ingredients to translate into a good OC, same kind of low-key hard-working type who just serves his role and doesn’t attract attention away from the HC or rock the boat.
This is EXACTLY what Allen wants when he says “right guy” and it was evident with the Greg Knapp hire. So i expect Olson to be right up his alley.
It’s that greedy with power and out of his depth thing.
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I’m consistently underwhelmed by this managments moves I read the article from the Buc’s. He is Knapp all ovber again just a different system.
DA will lead us to another 4-12 seqson if NOT worse and TP6 can forget ever getting a fair shake under Reggie and DA. That much is very clear……….period
>> about as clear as Vick being better than Elway…period!!
January 19th, 2013 at 12:21 am
I’m in awe of the sheer volume of Raider haters with nothing better to do on a Friday night/Saturday morning! I’m here ’cause I’m a fan. You?
January 19th, 2013 at 12:21 am
And lol at Cork shining Reggie and DA’s shoes. Someone’s trying to get in good with the brass, eh?
January 19th, 2013 at 12:22 am
Try Some Reality Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:16 am
Priesttj12 Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:09 am
Also I don’t think DA took kindly to Norv’s apparent favor for TP6. This allows him to continue with his charade of ‘he’s not ready yet’ crap.
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The homers in here can slice it up and serve it with whatever topping they like. Fact is we let a good one get away in Norv Turner and now have Greg Knapp with power blocking. The circus act returns in 2013 for an encore!
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Yeah and these circus barkers want us to believe Norv wasn’t interested…………lol
So this guy can faceplant just like Knapp and they can continue the excuse mill of Al’s fault and it’l take 9 years to get it cleared up.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:22 am
No one is giving JLofty his due. I called this about 7 hrs and one post ago.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:22 am
Priesttj12 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:49 pm
We gave away Kevin Boothe teh same way, he wasn’t good enough to play here when Cable took ove he brings in Kwame Harris and cuts 3 good young talented Olineman that Art Shell drafted we just wasted them.
Constant regression under the “Reggime”
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reggie wasn’t here then. and campbell and barksdale sucked then and now. make sense.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:22 am
CDERaider Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:07 am
MarcusAllen Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:04 am
What someone wrote:
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Another issue: the Bucs don’t seem prepared to play these games. Time and again they fail to come out of the gate firing. The Bucs haven’t scored a first-quarter touchdown on offense in nine straight games now. The last time they scored one was against the Atlanta Falcons in week 13 of last year. It feels like the team simply isn’t prepared to play a game once they step onto the field.
But worst of all, the players don’t seem to be progressing under Olson’s watch. This is a young team that needs quality coaching to progress, but almost to a man the team’s young skill players have regressed. …
Full link here: http://www.bucsnation.com/2011/11/14/2559632/greg-olson-buccaneers-offensive-coordinator-tampa-bay
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He’s a perfect fit in Oakland. Thanks Dennis. Or, can I call you Denny?
Seriously, these guys are going to be tearing up the links in the East Bay!
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More regression coming from the Raiders in 2013.
Olsen = Knapp 2.0, the power blocking version of Knapp.
This is utterly terrible.
What is Mark Davis and McKenzie doing?
I know…sucking it up and tearing it all down with a coach is not head coach material, hoping they can get Gruden back in 2014.
3 year project…..yeah….sounds fun! Yay!
January 19th, 2013 at 12:23 am
From Bucsnation post ..
Right now… I would happily accept “Good Enough”
on either side of the ball. We are nowhere close. Olson is the same joke he was 2 years ago. What happened to all of this talk about him grooming Drew Brees for success at Purdue, and running that high-powered STL offense with Mike Martz?
Not sure where all of those “Defending Olson” people went, but they were downright hostile when I was trashing Olson in 2009 when we promoted him to OC. He was a joke back then and remains as such.
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Well, that was Nov 2011 but I’m *sure* Olson’s much better now after his 1 year stint at the 2-14 Jags .. I’m sure Palmer is absolutely thrilled as well.
Hey, maybe he’ll retire now! There might be an upside gents…
January 19th, 2013 at 12:24 am
No really look it up. Might be my only coup in this regard. I want my due…
January 19th, 2013 at 12:24 am
Try Some Reality Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:21 am
And lol at Cork shining Reggie and DA’s shoes. Someone’s trying to get in good with the brass, eh?
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Spin Zone by Corkran! Lol!
January 19th, 2013 at 12:24 am
Jtstretch Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:55 pm
he was OC for Gruden while in tampa. can’t be that bad!!
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no, he wasn’t.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:25 am
Well, that was Nov 2011 but I’m *sure* Olson’s much better now after his 1 year stint at the 2-14 Jags .. I’m sure Palmer is absolutely thrilled as well.
Hey, maybe he’ll retire now! There might be an upside gents…
>> Olson was with the jags? they kicked ass last year!! uh nevermind
January 19th, 2013 at 12:25 am
dr_robert Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:24 am
Jtstretch Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:55 pm
he was OC for Gruden while in tampa. can’t be that bad!!
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no, he wasn’t.
>. I was OC
January 19th, 2013 at 12:26 am
Nice hire McK and DA! Olsen as OC?? Exciting!
You two are the chit!
Raiders may win 4 games now instead of 3. Heyoooo!
January 19th, 2013 at 12:26 am
CDERaider Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:23 am
From Bucsnation post ..
Right now… I would happily accept “Good Enough”
on either side of the ball. We are nowhere close. Olson is the same joke he was 2 years ago. What happened to all of this talk about him grooming Drew Brees for success at Purdue, and running that high-powered STL offense with Mike Martz?
Not sure where all of those “Defending Olson” people went, but they were downright hostile when I was trashing Olson in 2009 when we promoted him to OC. He was a joke back then and remains as such.
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Well, that was Nov 2011 but I’m *sure* Olson’s much better now after his 1 year stint at the 2-14 Jags .. I’m sure Palmer is absolutely thrilled as well.
Hey, maybe he’ll retire now! There might be an upside gents…
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This is the face he has been making for the last two hours.
http://ww1.hdnux.com/photos/06/76/45/1829184/7/628×471.jpg
January 19th, 2013 at 12:27 am
Olson is creative though. sometimes he has the Qb do a 7 step drop and get sacked on 3rd down and sometimes its a 5 step drop. hard to predict
January 19th, 2013 at 12:27 am
WTF!!!! WHO WANTS MY SEASON SEATS?
I ALSO HAVE A SIZE 3X ART SHELL & 3X MR 75 THROWBACK AUTHENTIC JERSEYS .. I’M FED UP WITH THESE CRAPPY FRONT OFFICE HIRINGS…
I’M JUST GONNA BE A NFL FAN FOR NOW ON .. FUCCCCCC!!!
I NEED A 5TH OF HENNY & A STEAK..
January 19th, 2013 at 12:28 am
C’mon Gents, cant be that bad, we survived the Knapp Debacle…..Give tha man a chance before we throw him to the wolves!!!!
January 19th, 2013 at 12:28 am
CP is like I came from a crappy Bungal team, to retirement and now I’m back playing for a crappy team again??
Ooff!
Getting rid of Hue Jack was a such a terrible mistake!
January 19th, 2013 at 12:28 am
Dudes wouldn’t it be totally cool if Greg wears a sharpie in his visor too??!!!
Maybe he could roll with a blue one on the left side just to be different.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:28 am
i can’t picture the Raiders making the playoffs for many more years. maybe 2017?
January 19th, 2013 at 12:29 am
Listen, fellas. When your goal is to tank in order to get high draft picks, you don’t hire up and coming minds from winning programs. You hire old retreads from the worst of the worst. It’s the only way to ensure Clowney next year. It’s all part of the plan!
Lol at this Circus Act.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:29 am
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:21 am
I’m in awe of the sheer volume of Raider haters with nothing better to do on a Friday night/Saturday morning! I’m here ’cause I’m a fan. You?
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no schit. raider hating raider fans….go rejoice on a donkey, discharger or quief site and suck thier dingdongs!
January 19th, 2013 at 12:29 am
JLofty said this exactly except for the flowery and smokeup@SS headline.At 5:30
January 19th, 2013 at 12:30 am
Not sure how to feel about this.
Bring back Wylie and Wiz 1.0 and I’ll call it even.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:30 am
While I’m on a roll…
I also said yesterday watch for this…
Eagles send Nick Foles
Raiders send Terrelle Pryor
Foles will back-up Palmer and eventually be okay.
Pryor will rip the NFL a new one.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:30 am
Well the good side of this is Reggie and his “Own Guy” will be history even sooner than I thought……….What a dumbell.
I’ll just follow the Niners until this mess is burned down……….period
January 19th, 2013 at 12:30 am
I agree we should of never gotten rid of JueJax!!, he had us going in the right direction, now we gotta make do with the
Dennis the Menace……
January 19th, 2013 at 12:31 am
OklahomaRaider18 Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:28 am
C’mon Gents, cant be that bad, we survived the Knapp Debacle…..Give tha man a chance before we throw him to the wolves!!!!
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Did we? I’m not so sure anymore. Does anyone else smell sulfur?
January 19th, 2013 at 12:31 am
SouthTexasRaider Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:29 am
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:21 am
I’m in awe of the sheer volume of Raider haters with nothing better to do on a Friday night/Saturday morning! I’m here ’cause I’m a fan. You?
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no schit. raider hating raider fans….go rejoice on a donkey, discharger or quief site and suck thier dingdongs!
>> we’re being honest. being positive about this would be like saying that the war in Iraq was worth it
January 19th, 2013 at 12:31 am
yall cried with the zbs and they bring in a coach that wants downhill running and yall are still crying????
geez, yall go cheer for the donkeys then or something…
January 19th, 2013 at 12:32 am
CDERaider Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:02 am
I betcha Greg can wear the sheet outta some visors!! It’ll be the Visor club! Straight from the golf course to the sidelines! Here we go boys!!!
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and u know how young white golfers be loving them some new wave qb’s.
missdick was right. pryor was a main factor in the OC hire.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:32 am
Al Saunders replaced Olson as OC in St Louis.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:33 am
I even gave you tools a 7hr head start getting used to Greg Olsen as ur oc and i see some of you are not making the adjustment yet…
January 19th, 2013 at 12:33 am
KoolKell Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:32 am
Al Saunders replaced Olson as OC in St Louis.
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LOL!
January 19th, 2013 at 12:33 am
Look at all the weapons Mr. Olsen has at his disposale!!
January 19th, 2013 at 12:33 am
While I’m on a roll…
I also said yesterday watch for this…
Eagles send Nick Foles
Raiders send Terrelle Pryor
Foles will back-up Palmer and eventually be okay.
Pryor will rip the NFL a new one.
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I really believe this DA cn’t wait to get id of Pryor, Norv’s praise of Pryor sealed it for DA there was NO WAY he was coming here if he had anything to do with it.
Reggie has no clue what he’s doing that much is very clear. He came here and in one season doomed this team for the next 5 years.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:34 am
That’s right,Texas. What the he11 is the problem? Palmer and Dmac are the strengths of our offense and we might just utilize them. Horrors! How much worse can it get?
January 19th, 2013 at 12:34 am
Priesttj12 Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:09 am
Also I don’t think DA took kindly to Norv’s apparent favor for TP6. This allows him to continue with his charade of ‘he’s not ready yet’ crap.
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YES! the angle i waiting for! cuz we all KNOW norv craved a pryor-led offense. we KNOW this. u know. cuz he said “keep grindin’” to him.
so easy to see the conspiracy.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:34 am
SouthTexasRaider Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:31 am
yall cried with the zbs and they bring in a coach that wants downhill running and yall are still crying????
geez, yall go cheer for the donkeys then or something…
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Umm….the fact he wants to bring power blocking is about the only positive. What we’re not happy with is a retread from a losing program. One that got shown the door in TB and Stl. Excuse us for not throwing a party. Lol.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:35 am
being honest, lol. c’mon, we cant help what we cant control. just roll with the punches bro, dont throw’em.
when will the raider hating raider fans ever be happy?
other big-name coaches dont want to coach here, get over it. we just got to hope the no name ones we have make a name for themselves with the talent thats on the roster, plain and simple.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:35 am
Priesttj12 Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:33 am
While I’m on a roll…
I also said yesterday watch for this…
Eagles send Nick Foles
Raiders send Terrelle Pryor
Foles will back-up Palmer and eventually be okay.
Pryor will rip the NFL a new one.
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I really believe this DA cn’t wait to get id of Pryor, Norv’s praise of Pryor sealed it for DA there was NO WAY he was coming here if he had anything to do with it.
Reggie has no clue what he’s doing that much is very clear. He came here and in one season doomed this team for the next 5 years.
>> oh no we just lost Joe Montana!! might just sell the raiders to China if pryor isn’t here!!
January 19th, 2013 at 12:36 am
Priesttj12 Says:
While I’m on a roll…
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You haven’t been on a roll since you had KK’s wife.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:36 am
SouthTexasRaider Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:31 am
yall cried with the zbs and they bring in a coach that wants downhill running and yall are still crying????
geez, yall go cheer for the donkeys then or something…
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You’re right, we should be stoked about a coordinator who loses 70% of his games. That puts us right in that 4-12 sweet spot.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:36 am
SouthTexasRaider Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:35 am
being honest, lol. c’mon, we cant help what we cant control. just roll with the punches bro, dont throw’em.
when will the raider hating raider fans ever be happy?
other big-name coaches dont want to coach here, get over it. we just got to hope the no name ones we have make a name for themselves with the talent thats on the roster, plain and simple.
>. have you been watching this team for the past 10 years?
January 19th, 2013 at 12:37 am
Priesttj12 Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:33 am
While I’m on a roll…
I also said yesterday watch for this…
Eagles send Nick Foles
Raiders send Terrelle Pryor
Foles will back-up Palmer and eventually be okay.
Pryor will rip the NFL a new one.
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I really believe this DA cn’t wait to get id of Pryor, Norv’s praise of Pryor sealed it for DA there was NO WAY he was coming here if he had anything to do with it.
Reggie has no clue what he’s doing that much is very clear. He came here and in one season doomed this team for the next 5 years.
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Yeah the Raiders are fubar’d for x years until we clean out the stank of Reggie and his nepotism hires and the stank of Allen and his hand-picked coaches.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:37 am
Try Some Reality Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:16 am
Priesttj12 Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:09 am
Also I don’t think DA took kindly to Norv’s apparent favor for TP6. This allows him to continue with his charade of ‘he’s not ready yet’ crap.
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The homers in here can slice it up and serve it with whatever topping they like. Fact is we let a good one get away in Norv Turner and now have Greg Knapp with power blocking. The circus act returns in 2013 for an encore!
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yeah cuz former head coaches of teams often go back to that team as a coordinator. it happens all the time.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:37 am
I didn’t say that!
January 19th, 2013 at 12:37 am
SouthTexasRaider Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:31 am
yall cried with the zbs and they bring in a coach that wants downhill running and yall are still crying????
geez, yall go cheer for the donkeys then or something…
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If they had brought in a GOOD zbs coach I would have backed the plan if that is where they were going long term. Instead they hired Greg Knapp.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:38 am
Sorry for the flippant attitude on this hire, but I’m out of optimism for this staff. I tried to be positive about Knapp and got burned for it. The fairy dust has worn off.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:38 am
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:36 am
Priesttj12 Says:
While I’m on a roll…
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You haven’t been on a roll since you had KK’s wife.
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I said “while im on roll”
go easy on priestt, his heart is in the right place, just exhausted and frustrated like many of us.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:38 am
man yall would be crying still and calling for his head if hue jax regressed and ended up 4-12 this past season.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:38 am
oklahomaRaider18 Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:33 am
Look at all the weapons Mr. Olsen has at his disposale!!
>> Olsons best weapons will be the punter and sometimes the kicker too if the other team commits a PI on one of those 3 yard vertical routes
January 19th, 2013 at 12:39 am
Priesttj12 Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:22 am
Try Some Reality Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:16 am
Priesttj12 Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:09 am
Also I don’t think DA took kindly to Norv’s apparent favor for TP6. This allows him to continue with his charade of ‘he’s not ready yet’ crap.
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The homers in here can slice it up and serve it with whatever topping they like. Fact is we let a good one get away in Norv Turner and now have Greg Knapp with power blocking. The circus act returns in 2013 for an encore!
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Yeah and these circus barkers want us to believe Norv wasn’t interested…………lol
So this guy can faceplant just like Knapp and they can continue the excuse mill of Al’s fault and it’l take 9 years to get it cleared up.
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reggie SAID norv said no thanks. pay attention.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:39 am
SouthTexasRaider Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:35 am
being honest, lol. c’mon, we cant help what we cant control. just roll with the punches bro, dont throw’em.
when will the raider hating raider fans ever be happy?
other big-name coaches dont want to coach here, get over it. we just got to hope the no name ones we have make a name for themselves with the talent thats on the roster, plain and simple.
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DA was a no name. Knapp and Olson are bad name coaches.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:39 am
im sorry bro, but there was nothing positive about g.knapp, we all or atleast i knew this past season would be schit with his hire.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:41 am
I’m really p’ssed off with the title “seasoned and well-regarded”…shill. Blowing smoke up our azzes like we dont know who Olson is.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:41 am
Priesttj12 Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:30 am
Well the good side of this is Reggie and his “Own Guy” will be history even sooner than I thought……….What a dumbell.
I’ll just follow the Niners until this mess is burned down……….period
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see ya.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:41 am
Mark Davis has to do something immediately to ensure when he does fire Reggie his guy is in place already. And make sure his guy has his guy in place already. Because they will need to hit the ground running.
This is an embarrasment of major proportions.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:42 am
I was wrong. I told you so more than 8 hrs ago…
JLofty Says: January 18th, 2013 at 4:27 pm
Better get used to Greg Olsen as your new OC
January 19th, 2013 at 12:42 am
RM went out for some Dominos pizza and went with his GUT on this one.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:42 am
DA was a no name. Knapp and Olson are bad name coaches.
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explain?
January 19th, 2013 at 12:44 am
Greg Olson’s visor Mic’d up. If you had any doubts this hire this will put you at ease fellas.
http://t.co/hBbHAnSF
January 19th, 2013 at 12:44 am
Priesttj12 Says:
This is an embarrasment of major proportions.
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why?
January 19th, 2013 at 12:44 am
yall wanna jump ship already and the guy hasnt called one dam play yet. he didnt have mcfadden or palmer in his previous stints, so give the guy a chance is all im saying. if we end up at 5-11 next season or worse, ill say you were right and you can say i told you so. but let it happen first guys, thats all im saying.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:45 am
I’m really p’ssed off with the title “seasoned and well-regarded”…shill. Blowing smoke up our azzes like we dont know who Olson is.
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This idiot tried to sell Knapp to us last year as if we didn’t see his act a couple of years earlier. Olson is a joke, we know it. But the biggest joke is Reggie himself, what a disappointment this guy has been a flat out faceplant right out of the gate………..lol
January 19th, 2013 at 12:45 am
The title of this article, as well as many other instances of the writers shilling, is clear cut that there’s a conspiracy going on with this new regime. They’re all about trying to dupe Raider Nation into buying into Reggie/Allen like they’re really good and we just cant see it, trying to buy more excuses for failure based on cap/draft challenges, trying to buy themselves more time from media scrutiny/criticism, like Iraq Minister of Defense propaganda.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:46 am
Watch the vid. Kind of has the same demeanor as ‘Grizzly Man’. Powerful stuff..
January 19th, 2013 at 12:46 am
You guys whine and b!Tc# more than pre-teen girls. Seriously. Take a pamprin already…
January 19th, 2013 at 12:46 am
CDERaider Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:44 am
Greg Olson’s visor Mic’d up. If you had any doubts this hire this will put you at ease fellas.
http://t.co/hBbHAnSF
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CDERaider Says: DOESN’T SAY…Uploaded on Nov 3, 2009
January 19th, 2013 at 12:46 am
DA was a no name. Knapp and Olson are bad name coaches.
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explain?
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Coaching history
January 19th, 2013 at 12:46 am
Give this dude some time gentlemen, I agree it’s not a sexy pic…..Be patient and let’s see who we draft, and pick up thru free agency….Im just
as impatient as the next Raider fan.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:47 am
DMAC is probably happy, too.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:47 am
I hope he succeeds, but for now, I will have fun making fun of him.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:47 am
For NOW. The only thing I care about, the ZBS is history……I will give the guy a. Chance..
January 19th, 2013 at 12:47 am
Priesttj12 Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:45 am
I’m really p’ssed off with the title “seasoned and well-regarded”…shill. Blowing smoke up our azzes like we dont know who Olson is.
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This idiot tried to sell Knapp to us last year as if we didn’t see his act a couple of years earlier. Olson is a joke, we know it. But the biggest joke is Reggie himself, what a disappointment this guy has been a flat out faceplant right out of the gate………..lol
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Yep.
Where’s that Fire Reggie list? Let’s poll it now. I bet there are more and more “was willing to give reggie more time, but…” people who now vote to Fire Reggie.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:47 am
allen is a defensive coach. so basically, olson will be running the entire offense. i don’t see him as being very inventive.
i gotta say i’m disappointed. i’m usually optimistic, but this doesn’t excite me.
i’ll wait and see, but we chose this guy, a guy who has done NOTHING, over martz, an offensive genius who created “the greatest show on turf”.
letdown.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:48 am
KoolKell- Adios- Exit, stage left
January 19th, 2013 at 12:48 am
yall wanna jump ship already and the guy hasnt called one dam play yet. he didnt have mcfadden or palmer in his previous stints, so give the guy a chance is all im saying. if we end up at 5-11 next season or worse, ill say you were right and you can say i told you so. but let it happen first guys, thats all im saying.
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Dude if you cna’t smell the stink from this act it’s your own fault. They waited to spring this on us man this guy was hired a week or more ago. DA wants a yes-man and he got him.
No one with a ounce of insight aint buying this guy. Stop wasting you breath.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:49 am
well if Olson gets the Offense rolling he can replace sharpie boy in 14.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:50 am
dr_robert Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:47 am
allen is a defensive coach. so basically, olson will be running the entire offense. i don’t see him as being very inventive.
i gotta say i’m disappointed. i’m usually optimistic, but this doesn’t excite me.
i’ll wait and see, but we chose this guy, a guy who has done NOTHING, over martz, an offensive genius who created “the greatest show on turf”.
letdown.
>> i pitched a tent when i heard the news.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:50 am
i didn’t love a lot of what i heard from reggie either. he keeps talking about how he’s a rookie gm. so what. he talks about the cap. so what. al davis never gave a sh1t about the cap. i’m getting antsy.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:50 am
i dont think he can end up worse than knapp in his first year with us. with a better D and actual draft picks this year things can only get better.
im sick of losing just as much as the next raider fan but c’mon guys.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:51 am
Good job, JLofty!
Way to call it, GG!
I think we rename him “Greg II”
January 19th, 2013 at 12:52 am
i mean, maybe the guy will do some good things. we’ll see. but i’m not seeing a great track record.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:52 am
rediaR Says:
Knapp and Olson are bad name coaches.
Coaching history
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I think Knapp is a bad coach. Many others don’t. Where you getting your vibe on Olson from and how is he bad for our Raiders?
January 19th, 2013 at 12:52 am
Hopefully we’ll give Reggie Smith a chance and Dante Paige-Moss….would love to get some of these under the radar players come play for that multi-year contracts…
Moneyball 2013!!!!
January 19th, 2013 at 12:52 am
I have knapp Phobia now. it was very traumatizing and i will doubt any hire this regime makes. Knapp was the worst OC in the NFL. its takes a “special” braintrust to fuk up an important hire THAT bad.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:53 am
From Cork
Allen hired Olson after a lengthy and thorough search that included interviews with numerous high-profile candidates. In the end, Allen felt as if Olson is the best fit.
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Visor bro’s forever. Bros before hoes.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:54 am
I for one am ALL in. Raiders baby!!!!!
Once you got sickness they ain’t no goin back! !!
Coached up Josh Freeman!
Who else was they gunna hire?
Wade Wilson?
Mike Tice?
Lololol
January 19th, 2013 at 12:54 am
Just queue all the Buccaneers and Jaguars fans complaints of Greg Olson from their fan forums in the past….and teleprompter them here thru the 2013 season.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:55 am
SouthTexasRaider Says:
i dont think he can end up worse than knapp in his first year with us
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That happens, I’ll be there with pitchforks to spare and incendiary devices gratis.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:55 am
Olsen looks like an older Gabbert…
January 19th, 2013 at 12:56 am
Thanks papertiger. I am a man with vision. Too bad the visions suck! !!
January 19th, 2013 at 12:57 am
GG Says: Just queue all the Buccaneers and Jaguars fans complaints of Greg Olson from their fan forums in the past….and teleprompter them here thru the 2013 season.
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I did. Most didn’t think they any QB’s on the squad.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:57 am
Greg Rex Olson (born March 1, 1963) is an American football coach. He is currently the offensive coordinator for the Oakland Raiders. He was the offensive coordinator of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers of the National Football League from 2009 to 2011. He served the 2012 Season as Quarterbacks coach for the Jacksonville Jaguars.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Olson_(American_football)
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January 19th, 2013 at 12:58 am
mistic666 Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:52 am
I have knapp Phobia now. it was very traumatizing and i will doubt any hire this regime makes. Knapp was the worst OC in the NFL. its takes a “special” braintrust to fuk up an important hire THAT bad.
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After all those ‘high-profile’ interviews, Allen felt most ‘comfie’ with Greg. Wanna bet his guy has a worse career record than Knapp? And this hire took 3 weeks to make?
This has to be on purpose. Purposely horrible that is. I would have preferred and absolute nobody with no previous record to a 6 time proven loser.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:58 am
Q:
If you’re a GM or a HC, why would you choose Olson as a PBS/Vertical offensive coordinator instead of Norv Turner and the litany of others far better out there?
A:
Because you can pay him peanuts, he wont bite, he wont threaten the HC’s job, he is happy to just get a gig again minimum pay for 1 year until the whole GM/HC/staff is cleaned out again, only one who’d be willing to come here knowing all this.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:59 am
I am officially going with on the record as….
He can’t be as bad as knappy!
January 19th, 2013 at 1:00 am
JLofty Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:56 am
Thanks papertiger. I am a man with vision. Too bad the visions suck! !!
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Boy I got vision, and the rest of the world wears bifocals.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:02 am
Ok you whiners tell me this: they go 10-6 but don’t make the playoffs will you weep like 4th grade girls still?
January 19th, 2013 at 1:02 am
Here it is….
In 2005, the Rams ranked 9th in yards and 11th in scoring.
Then Olson took over and…
In 2006, the Rams ranked 6th in yards and 10th in scoring.
In 2007, the Rams ranked 24th in yards and 28th in scoring.
He got fired after the 2007 season.
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In 2008, the Bucs ranked 14th in yards and 19th in scoring.
Then Olson took over and…
In 2009, the Bucs ranked 28th in yards and 30th in scoring.
In 2010, the Bucs ranked 19th in yards and 20th in scoring.
In 2011, the Bucs ranked 21st in yards and 27th in scoring.
He got fired after the 2011 season.
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Scintillating.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:02 am
Wake up people. Raiders are fubar’d for the foreseeable future. I mean seriously, you’re looking at a 2-5 win season in 2013. The Raiders will be ok on offense running PBS/Vertical, we’ll see some good things, but there’ll be all those same problems we saw of Olson at Buccaneers/Jaguars.
And, it wont be just that, but couple this also with Reggie faceplanting in the 2013 draft and FA transactions. Allen faceplanting with gameplans and lack of half-time adjustments, poor use of personnel.
About the only good thing will be Raider Nation warming to Tarver.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:02 am
I dont understand Y Norv Turner would interrupte a interview to tell T.Pryor to keep it up and keep grinding, then express interest in the OC job, only to agree to coach with the Stains????????????
January 19th, 2013 at 1:02 am
GG Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:58 am
Q:
If you’re a GM or a HC, why would you choose Olson as a PBS/Vertical offensive coordinator instead of Norv Turner and the litany of others far better out there?
A:
Because you can pay him peanuts, he wont bite, he wont threaten the HC’s job, he is happy to just get a gig again minimum pay for 1 year until the whole GM/HC/staff is cleaned out again, only one who’d be willing to come here knowing all this.
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OC in the NFL for 6 years. STOP IT!!
January 19th, 2013 at 1:03 am
Olson has six years’ experience as an offensive coordinator in the NFL, including three with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, from 2009-11. During that time, Olson was credited with the rapid development of quarterback Josh Freeman into one of the league’s more promising players.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:04 am
JLofty Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:59 am
I am officially going with on the record as….
He can’t be as bad as knappy!
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Awesome! We have been reduced to “He can’t be as bad as the last guy!” LMFAO! Gotta hand it to Reggie. Lower those expectations to rock bottom so that everything you do after that will be viewed as improvement. LOL!
January 19th, 2013 at 1:04 am
QUIT LYING THRU YOUR F’IN TEETH!!!
January 19th, 2013 at 1:06 am
Greg Olsens record as Offensive Coordinator in the NFL:
2005 Lions – 5-11
2006-07 Rams – 11-21
2009-2011 Bucs – 17-31
Total: 33-63
What more do you have to know?
January 19th, 2013 at 1:06 am
the bucs didnt have players that we do now.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:06 am
Of course the Raiders don’t have their choice of coaches.
But, they did choose to go back to North-South football. Quite an admission.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:07 am
GG Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:58 am
Q:
If you’re a GM or a HC, why would you choose Olson as a PBS/Vertical offensive coordinator instead of Norv Turner and the litany of others far better out there?
A:
Because you can pay him peanuts, he wont bite, he wont threaten the HC’s job, he is happy to just get a gig again minimum pay for 1 year until the whole GM/HC/staff is cleaned out again, only one who’d be willing to come here knowing all this.
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this is true to some extent. and reasonable. as a head coach, u can’t have a power struggle. u can’t bring in a guy who thinks he’s running sh1t. or may give the impression he knows better than u.
this guy has been apparently thought well enuff of, to be hired by other teams so he must have some prowess. but i don’t see an exciting track record.
however, he does seem to have leanings that would fit our team. power running. play-action. deep strikes.
it does clarify who we’re going with offensively. dmc. palmer. it won’t be wide open like it would’ve been with martz. it will be somewhat “standard”.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:07 am
From that dude Levi D at SB Nation…
One side note to all this is Olson worked under John Gruden in Tampa Bay for his last season. Gruden has spoken with the Raiders a lot lately which leads one to believe there may have been a glowing recommendation for Olson in those conversations at some point which led to the initial interest and eventual hiring.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:08 am
JLofty Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 1:02 am
Ok you whiners tell me this: they go 10-6 but don’t make the playoffs will you weep like 4th grade girls still?
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………..maybe.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:08 am
10 years ago today, the Raiders defeated the Titans 41-24 in the AFC Championship Game to advance to Super Bowl XXXVII.
That seems like 100 years ago.
(sigh)
January 19th, 2013 at 1:08 am
CDERaider Says:
Total: 33-63
What more do you have to know?
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Besides LIONS,RAMS,and BUCS?
Nothing
January 19th, 2013 at 1:09 am
the bucs didnt have the players that we do now.
but yall will find something negative to say so ill just sit back and read the comments cause yall will be stuck in the past from now until the season starts.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:10 am
Olson was hired by Jon Gruden to replace Paul Hackett as QB coach in Jon G’s final year in Tampa Bay as head coach.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:11 am
CDERaider, that is as far back as your Raider allegiance goes, right? So, you either like losers so you can btch, or jumped on the winners bandwagon and got burned. My heart fckn bleeds for your whiner ass.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:12 am
SouthTexasRaider Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 1:09 am
the bucs didnt have the players that we do now.
but yall will find something negative to say so ill just sit back and read the comments cause yall will be stuck in the past from now until the season starts.
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are u saying we have good players?
January 19th, 2013 at 1:13 am
CDERaider Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 1:08 am
10 years ago today, the Raiders defeated the Titans 41-24 in the AFC Championship Game to advance to Super Bowl XXXVII.
That seems like 100 years ago.
(sigh)
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You even sigh like a btch.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:13 am
so, wait. i thought we were bringing in the pistol, and read option, and pryor was gonna fire it up and……
January 19th, 2013 at 1:14 am
We got 7 good players. So What?
January 19th, 2013 at 1:15 am
well, time to worry about OL coach, ST coach, LB coach.
then free agency. then the draft.
i miss al davis now more than ever.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:15 am
are you saying we have bad players?
if you are, then why are you a fan?
complain about coaches, players……lol, go fahqin cheer for the patriots or something.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:15 am
See there, doc? He yanked my chain like you still let missy yank yours.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:17 am
not impressed with the hire, but i gotta wait n see
January 19th, 2013 at 1:17 am
SouthTexasRaider Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 1:15 am
are you saying we have bad players?
if you are, then why are you a fan?
complain about coaches, players……lol, go fahqin cheer for the patriots or something.
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i’m a fan cuz i’ve been a raiders fan since i was like 7. but we don’t have a lot of good players. it’s just the truth. we have some. hopefully we will get some more soon.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:18 am
hey mcf20—a bit of a letdown. but the offensive plan has clarified.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:18 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 1:17 am
not impressed with the hire, but i gotta wait n see
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Deja Vu? Isn’t this what we were saying last year? Aye caramba…
January 19th, 2013 at 1:18 am
Okay some honesty Dr.
Here’s some reality to Try: we hit ROCK bottom almost a DECADE before Reggie showed up. Don’t know where u were when the dumbest coach in America was promoted. Or art shell and bnb or lance muffin or…
January 19th, 2013 at 1:19 am
gotta love these raider hating raider fans though……thats what makes this site so interesting to read. they been here longer than i, and ive been reading/posting since 2005, lol.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:19 am
purvis–i like to think i do the chain-yanking with missdick. but it goes both ways i suppose.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:20 am
STR. Dont be a stranger, jump in Raiders!!!
January 19th, 2013 at 1:20 am
jlofty—i know. but i still miss al. he was fun.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:20 am
Computer’s gettinghot. need a new one back when it cools
January 19th, 2013 at 1:21 am
picks in draft and money to spend….i just hope we get the right handfull of good players doc.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:21 am
Pryor didn’t run no pistol in college. I don’t think he ran much option Dr ither did he?
January 19th, 2013 at 1:23 am
SouthTexasRaider Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 1:21 am
picks in draft and money to spend….i just hope we get the right handfull of good players doc.
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well, if reggie does it right, we can get better quick.
the defense played well the last few games.
if dmc somehow finds it again, and we can get a #1 wr, maybe we’ll make a big leap.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:24 am
I’da felt better bout this hire about exactly a year ago…
January 19th, 2013 at 1:24 am
atleast it should get Mcfadden going, just came to my mind why we should not trade him, he’s in his contract year, he’ll go beast mode n he’ll finally stay healthy the entire year
January 19th, 2013 at 1:25 am
JLofty Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 1:21 am
Pryor didn’t run no pistol in college. I don’t think he ran much option Dr ither did he?
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no. i believe it was the spread. he’s a great talent. just not a very accurate passer. looks like it’s gonna be palmer this year anyway. we can all reserve judgement on pryor until next pre-season anyway.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:26 am
Accuracy is Everything in the nfl at qb…
January 19th, 2013 at 1:27 am
tru tru, i sure do hope he finds it man, for us fans sake, lol. i wish a wr on our roster would step the fahq up and claim the #1 spot.
i didnt watch pryor much in college but how do you see him? any future as a starting qb?
January 19th, 2013 at 1:28 am
Well mabey half of everything. Reading and knowing the play n plan big too
January 19th, 2013 at 1:28 am
NFL starting to feel real sorry for Oakland, admitting the staff to coach the North team; after this hiring, I now see why the sympathy. SMH
January 19th, 2013 at 1:29 am
i have a pretty sure feeling about where the offense is heading. this hiring confirms it. i do believe pryor will get some looks at wr/returner. some end arounds. but i just don’t see them putting him out there at qb. preseason will do a lot to dispel the fervor that is pryor-mania around here. it’s just my opinion.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:31 am
SouthTexasRaider Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 1:27 am
tru tru, i sure do hope he finds it man, for us fans sake, lol. i wish a wr on our roster would step the fahq up and claim the #1 spot.
i didnt watch pryor much in college but how do you see him? any future as a starting qb?
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i don’t think he’ll make it as a qb. he tries hard and has a great attitude. he is amazing running around with the ball. but he throws an awful looking pass and is very inaccurate. i just don’t see him ever becoming a reliable passer. i hate to rain on people’s parade. but he may be incredible as a wr. really big and fast.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:31 am
Pryor is a big unknown to me. I don’t watch a lot of college ball but I don’t think th at matters.
The kid has talent def needs seasoning just wish he’d play wr while waited his shot at qb…
January 19th, 2013 at 1:31 am
I just don’t get some bloggers sometimes, hating on the hire, how this guy has done nothing, blah blah, but then they go on to support Pryor,he should start, etc, etc what the hell has he done so far? atleast be freaking consistent, call every cow dung a cow dung, not sum kinda cake sometimes lol
January 19th, 2013 at 1:35 am
it did look like he was putting a lil to much “touch” on the ball in that last game against the chargers. i sure would like to see him on some routes though.
if the offense is heading in a bad direction then im gonna hate to see the defense next season, especially if they are always gonna be on the field.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:36 am
the thing about pryor is i just see him as a waste of time at qb. yes, he does some electric things. but his passing is so sub-par that i can’t imagine him ever being a starter, let alone a good one.
but he has the skills to be megatron at wr. he’s the kinda guy who could be virtually uncoverable due to his size and speed. and he can obviously run after the catch. i mean he could set the league on fire at wr. why not just do that then?
January 19th, 2013 at 1:37 am
345. Agreed……
January 19th, 2013 at 1:38 am
look at jimmy graham. barely any experience. but big and fast. and agile. and he’s a monster out there. pryor could be that guy. no shame in it. he just doesn’t pass that well.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:41 am
Computer cools downfaster tha I do.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:41 am
Hendu Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 1:37 am
345. Agreed……
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Thanks for agreeing with me, watch there will b a lot more tomorrow doing the same ish
January 19th, 2013 at 1:42 am
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 1:41 am
Computer cools downfaster tha I do.
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Cuz it’s a computer , it can do anything faster than human lol
January 19th, 2013 at 1:43 am
Pryor to Eagles
Foles to Raiders
DHB and Ford to Browns for a player or picks
Joeckel who the Raiders will try to draft hoping Chiefs/Jaguars dont beat them to him, otherwise they’ll trade down, collect picks, and still look to bolster the OL priority #1. At least with Reggie as GM he’ll understand to play 7 step drop football he needs a killer OL, Al wasted too many years not doing that.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:44 am
I love Pryor to succeed, but I doubt it will happen at QB , hopefully he’s got another year with us and becomes a pretty good WR/TE
January 19th, 2013 at 1:46 am
I just hope we can get couple of pass rushers , a fs , a decent MLB, #1 WR n a RT , the rest can stay intact ,I’ll b happy with that
January 19th, 2013 at 1:46 am
We have a consortium of geniuses in here right now. lol
January 19th, 2013 at 1:49 am
aight gents, im outta here for the night. its going on dang 4am over in deep south texas.
ill surely be on tomorrow to read some of the ones that havent commented yet…
peace-out my nation brothers and lets all agree to just look at this up coming season on a positive note.
RAIDER FAHQIN NATION!
January 19th, 2013 at 1:52 am
Guys who will b cut
Kelly – does not deserve 7-8 N , undisciplined, caused Raiders in many ways
McClain – no comment
Briesel – at 4/5 M too much money for aZBS guy
CC – long in tooth , ZBS guy
Walker — Penalty machine
Tollefsen = at 2.5/3 M is making too much for a part time guy
Ford = is always injured
January 19th, 2013 at 1:53 am
Nite STR
January 19th, 2013 at 1:57 am
Why we taking about Pryor? But, since we are. When I saw him throw one or two of those floaters, I paid attention to his intermediate and short passes and I thought he nailed some of those with zip and accuracy. I don’t have DVR and didn’t tape it. He didn’t complete many so there’s a small sampling to look at but I’m still intrigued by the guy. He definitely throws off his back foot on downfield passes and I don’t understand what his supporters aren’t seeing there. He is what he is right now, being a scary threat to run and I’d go with him as #2 this year unless he wins the # 1 spot in preseason which would be some in heres wet dream but ain’t happening.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:58 am
Night, Texas.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:59 am
SouthTexasRaider Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 1:49 am
lets all agree to just look at this up coming season on a positive note.
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There’s that same mistake…still thinking the Raiders under Reggie/Allen are gonna become a powerhouse, a stadium built for us in Oakland, lombardi trophy, good players and coaches coming here.
Fans still deluded by hope, believing in this regime, and buying the shilling from beat writers with an agenda to p*ss on our backs and tell us it’s raining.
I understand, we “have to” believe, we have to “lets just wait and see”. But the writings on the wall. Sure, I’ll wait and see, like I do every year. Just you have to protect your emotions, for the high possibility of more failure and frustration.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:59 am
Surprise cuts possibilities
Moore = mind set is not in the game , does not care if the team Is winning or losing, always laughing it up with the boys
DHB = if he doesn’t restructure, or finally they get tired of his hands of stones
Ford = as mentioned earlier
Criner = most likely candidate , if injuries keep hindering his progress
Tyvon branch = was bad last year after getting the huge contract n if shows up unprepared to camp reg will realize he was in it for the contract
January 19th, 2013 at 2:01 am
Cooper goes both ways and is not bad. He’ll be back unless he decides to hang ‘em up.
January 19th, 2013 at 2:02 am
Ok let’s just talk about the locks
Wiz
Veldheer
Houston
Huff
Jano
Streater
– wow our team really sukks, hopefully we can get those comp picks n add a few more picks n draft some legit players with most of those 10 plus picks
January 19th, 2013 at 2:04 am
CC isn’t bad but time to add some young blood in there , n was Berg originally LG or weren’t they thinking about outing him there
January 19th, 2013 at 2:05 am
Well looks like everybody is snoring , I’m gonna snore too , night fellas
January 19th, 2013 at 2:06 am
DHB is an enigma. He abuses DB’s verbally and physically, is one he11 of a blocker and is tough to bring down with the ball in his hands. Yeah, I left out that part about catching, but I don’t cringe anymore when the ball is in the air and he’s the target.
January 19th, 2013 at 2:06 am
By the numbers 2013 salary cap hits:
Carson Palmer – $16.9 million if on roster
Base salary – $13 million
Signing bonus – $3.9
Micheal Huff – $11.2 million if on roster.
Base – $4 million
Bonus – $3.2 million
Tommy Kelly – $9.3 million if on roster
Base – $6.5 million
Bonus – $2.16 million
Darrius Heyward-Bey – $10.6 million if on roster
Base – $7.7 million
Bonus – $2.88 million (this is a performance/roster bonus)
Tyvon Branch – $10.9 million if on roster
Base – $6 million
Bonus – $1.4 and $3.5 million
January 19th, 2013 at 2:07 am
Night, 20, we outlasted ‘em, I guess.
January 19th, 2013 at 2:08 am
Forgot to add Huff has an additional $4 million in bonus money in 2013.
January 19th, 2013 at 2:11 am
Isn’t Palmer 18 million for 2012 and 2013? Diveded by two per year? 16 million or so for 2014?
January 19th, 2013 at 2:11 am
Sportrac has all the details.
January 19th, 2013 at 2:12 am
This will be an intriguing hire, Olson either sinks or swims with DA. Welcome aboard M8!
Here’s my outside the box prediction:
Olson brings in his brand of power run. Wiz goes back to guard, draft/FA a center/r-tackle.
and here’s the kicker, Briesel thrives in this “new wave” of blocking, and makes the pro bowl next year.
boOk iT
January 19th, 2013 at 2:24 am
If Reggie missed with Briesel that badly, I’m real worried. Hopefully he was hurt and playing in a real bad scheme. And I think Knapp, even with Briesel’s previous line coach, had a ridiculously bad scheme for any NFL roster.
January 19th, 2013 at 2:24 am
January 19th, 2013 at 2:29 am
Detroit Lions Offensive Coordinators
2005
Succeeded by
Mike Martz.
St. Louis Rams Offensive Coordinator
2006-2007
Succeeded by
Al Saunders.
Tampa Bay Buccaneers Offensive Coordinators
2009–2011
Succeeded by
Mike Sullivan
“Allen hired Olson after a lengthy and thorough search that included interviews with numerous high-profile candidates. In the end, Allen felt as if Olson is the best fit.”
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McKenzie and Allen say they threw away all the jetsam and flotsam like Norv to get to Olsen?
Interesting that he was once replaced by Martz and once replaced by Sanders.
He’s not the successful and established OC that we all wanted but that guy won’t come here until the actual team looks better and few are willing to work for a younger HC like Allen.
January 19th, 2013 at 2:35 am
By Levi Damien on Jan 18, 11:12p
The Raiders’ interest in Olson had to come from his previous stops. He has a total of six years of experience as an offensive coordinator. Prior to his position as QB coach for the Buccaneers, he was the offensive coordinator for the Buccaneers for three seasons. Unfortunately, his tenure there was not too good either. The Bucs had an offense ranked near the bottom all three of his seasons there.
If you move past the numbers, you can see where the interest may have sparked. While Olson was with the Buccaneers, Josh Freeman had his best seasons. Prior to his time in Tampa Bay, Olson was the offensive coordinator in St Louis where Steven Jackson had his best seasons. Allen is hoping Olson can bring out the best in Darren McFadden just as he did with Jackson.
One side note to all this is Olson worked under John Gruden in Tampa Bay for his last season. Gruden has spoken with the Raiders a lot lately which leads one to believe there may have been a glowing recommendation for Olson in those conversations at some point which led to the initial interest and eventual hiring.
January 19th, 2013 at 2:36 am
“after a lengthy and thorough search that included interviews with numerous high-profile candidates”
You are being lied to, Raider Nation. Wake up. Olson was ear-marked some weeks ago. Reggie/Allen wanted to wait till most of the top prospect coaches were hired elsewhere before announcing Olson, otherwise it would be met with much anger if it was announced while Norv etc were still available.
Allen wanted this type of coach, low-key, cheap. They turned away Norv.
January 19th, 2013 at 2:40 am
GG, you were all in on the Gruden hire, right/ The no name from phily?
January 19th, 2013 at 2:41 am
Wanted Gruden.
January 19th, 2013 at 2:41 am
“One side note to all this is Olson worked under John Gruden in Tampa Bay for his last season. Gruden has spoken with the Raiders a lot lately which leads one to believe there may have been a glowing recommendation for Olson in those conversations at some point which led to the initial interest and eventual hiring.”
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“Gruden has spoken with the Raiders a lot lately…..”
That’s really interesting.
January 19th, 2013 at 2:42 am
But would’ve been okay if Allen actually seriously addressed upgrading the OC position. You don’t upgrade by selecting Olson above Norv.
January 19th, 2013 at 2:58 am
JLofty Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:46 am
You guys whine and b!Tc# more than pre-teen girls. Seriously. Take a pamprin already…
————————————I agree!!! I’m sure they have Pamprin on sale at wal-mart…lol
January 19th, 2013 at 3:13 am
Lol at Knapp going to Denver to teach Peyton Manning how to throw the football!
January 19th, 2013 at 4:32 am
*tumbleweed bounces through*
January 19th, 2013 at 4:33 am
*saloon doors rattle in the wind*
January 19th, 2013 at 4:36 am
What is he seasoned with?
Old Tampon Bay?
Mumbles smelled him and got hungry!
January 19th, 2013 at 4:37 am
“after a lengthy and thorough search that included interviews with numerous high-profile candidates”
FUKIN BULL$HIT
January 19th, 2013 at 4:40 am
“Greg is a proven, experienced coach with a very impressive background working with quarterbacks,” Broncos coach John Fox said in a statement. “He’s had success with Pro Bowlers and established players while also being instrumental in the development of younger quarterbacks. I’ve coached against him for a number of years and have a lot of respect for him. We are pleased to add someone of his caliber to our coaching staff.”
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thoughts?
January 19th, 2013 at 4:41 am
Colts hire Pep Hamilton for OC
January 19th, 2013 at 4:49 am
Hi Greg please sit down and thank you for interviewing with us.
What teams have you worked for?
er um the Lions, Rams and Bucs…
Well those are fine fine fine Quality type teams. (Cough) Why you’ll fit right in here with the Oakland Packers Practice Squad!
January 19th, 2013 at 4:54 am
Perhaps the Raiders could get some Saturday gig as the cupcake team some of the Pac10 teams schedule as a tune-up for regular season play?
January 19th, 2013 at 4:56 am
Im ready for Free Agency to start!!! Ready to update my Madden Rosters..lol
January 19th, 2013 at 5:07 am
Reggie & Dennis were probably turned down by 10-15 OC candidates … maybe even some of the guys we interviewed?
of all the guys available, i’m not sure Olson would have even been in the Top 30 in my rankings
it’s obvious GO wanted the job and gave an impressive interview. Based upon his previous experience, he doesn’t deserve a job as OC. 3 strikes and you’re out, right?
if we made this desperation move in hopes to salvage the career of Darren McFadden (in a contract year), it’s time for Mark Davis to hire Ray Anderson. Reggie needs a Supervisor, because he doesn’t know what he’s doing. Perhaps he took too many hits to the head playing linebacker??
January 19th, 2013 at 5:33 am
Ray Anderson is the guy who comes in as Mark gets ready to sell.
January 19th, 2013 at 5:33 am
Even though we’ve been thru some lean years, we at least had hope. Now, even that has been stripped from us. Way to go Raiders. Continue to lower your standards.
January 19th, 2013 at 5:37 am
“..after a lengthy and thorough search that included interviews with numerous high-profile candidates…”
That sentence is so rehearsed its not even funny.
If it were a real hire they’d be singing Olson’s praises WITH SPECIFIC EXAMPLES of his work.
January 19th, 2013 at 5:48 am
DaTruth91 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:20 pm
Dont understand all that hate… realistically, Dennis Allen is a young coach, and just alone eliminates most candidates.
He’s bringing back the Power blocking scheme, and likes to go vertical….already better than Knapp.
People just want to hate on anything…
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Exactly. @ssholes.
I can see bashing knapp preseason. But why this guy? He’s gonna bring in all the things people have been clamoring for. Power blocking. Vertical passing. And probably looking forward to the TP6 experiment. Wtf do you @ssholes want??? Did you think we were gonna get Bruce Ariens? Mark trestman? Wake the F up!!!
January 19th, 2013 at 5:55 am
Whats A Drexl? Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 2:12 am
This will be an intriguing hire, Olson either sinks or swims with DA. Welcome aboard M8!
Here’s my outside the box prediction:
Olson brings in his brand of power run. Wiz goes back to guard, draft/FA a center/r-tackle.
and here’s the kicker, Briesel thrives in this “new wave” of blocking, and makes the pro bowl next year.
boOk iT
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Briesel is gone. It only costs us $1.4 million to cut him, $5 million to keep him. And he was brought in to support the retards knapp and pollack. He’s gone. I hope.
January 19th, 2013 at 5:58 am
Did you think we were gonna get Bruce Ariens? Mark trestman? Wake the F up!!! …
Exactly – which is why 4-12 is gonna look good compared to whats coming.
January 19th, 2013 at 6:01 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 1:41 am
Hendu Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 1:37 am
345. Agreed……
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Thanks for agreeing with me, watch there will b a lot more tomorrow doing the same ish
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Agreed. On both counts.
January 19th, 2013 at 6:10 am
MarcusAllen Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 5:58 am
Did you think we were gonna get Bruce Ariens? Mark trestman? Wake the F up!!! …
Exactly – which is why 4-12 is gonna look good compared to whats coming.
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You might be right about the record. But not the direction. My point is that now maybe we can get a true picture of the coaching staff. To a point. The biggest problem w this team is the lack of talent. And it’s gonna get worse next year. Get ready for another purge. That’s what Al did to us. Thanks Al. But in 2014, once Reggie has 3 draft classes and a raised salary cap w contracts in place that r under control, and TP6 or a highly drafted rookie QB ready to go, we will once again be competitive again. I’m not looking forward to next year either. But I’m so sick of this “manage to win a couple extra games a year mentality”. (Remember Carson Palmer and hue Jackson????). BS. it’s about time we build and manage to win 10+ games EVERY YEAR.
And I refuse to believe these guys can’t make it happen for at least 3 years. We could have looked a lot better last year. Knapp and pollack and Hoffman were TERRIBLE hires. But at least they saw the deficiencies and eliminated them. No old boys network. No saving face. All the new hires (except DA and Reggie) that didn’t perform were GONE! You will see the same thing w the roster this off season.
January 19th, 2013 at 6:16 am
Shilling much there?
January 19th, 2013 at 6:19 am
GG Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 6:16 am
Shilling much there?
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Yea. Cause I work for the raiders and give a shlt what most people on this blog think. Really? Get on board or gtfo. Last year was disgusting. Next year may not be much better. Gotta be realistic. But gotta have hope for 2014 too. Otherwise what’s the point???
January 19th, 2013 at 6:19 am
I’m drinking tha kool aid this year I’m back
January 19th, 2013 at 6:20 am
raiders gonna make the playoffs
January 19th, 2013 at 6:22 am
LOL at the critics.
So since WE chose Olson over Norv phuccing Turner, you are mad?????
NORVELL?????
The highly regarded Norvell that ended up in Cleveland??????
Cleveland “beat us out”??????
Get real, folks!
Our offense was BETTER than Norvell was the last time we played him.
SMH
January 19th, 2013 at 6:25 am
Priest,
You are trippin’ tying yourself to TP6 and smashing everything McKenzie does.
This is the RAIDERS, not the Pryors!
You refuse to accept the simple fact that things are being run by Davis Jr. now. Mistakes are going to be made just like Davis Sr. made. You NEVER were critical of the Raiders like you are now. You complain about EVERYTHING.
Damn shame!
January 19th, 2013 at 6:26 am
Not renewing, TSR????
Because of a loser retread like Norv being ignored?????
Damn, man. WTF is going on wih my peoples in here????
January 19th, 2013 at 6:29 am
now we need to hire Bobby April
January 19th, 2013 at 6:30 am
Knapp 2.0????
Why, because Blaine Gabbert and all the other Jags QBs sucked arsse?????
January 19th, 2013 at 6:32 am
There’s so much wrong in your post…
“Right about the record, not the direction.”
–direction is whatever the record is.
“Now maybe we can get a picture of the coaching staff.”
–what are you even trying to say here?
“Talent is the problem, worse next year, all Al’s fault.”
–reggie’s fault. he blew up the existing working pbs/vertically-schemed roster, for the zbs/wco, let talent go, brought in blunders to serve the zbs/wco, and now has done a backflip, meaning having to retool the holes he created.
“But in 2014…blah blah”
–so yet another case of ‘ten and then’ mentality. every year buying another year’s excuse to suck. if as a gm reggie is waiting for $50M cap and 15 draft picks to make a difference, then he is not a good gm. any armchair gm here can build a good team with that. where gm’s make their mark is making things happen thru adversity, not blaming everyone else (which reggie does)
“I’m so sick of this win a couple extra games mentality…etc”
–That’s a straight copy-paste mentality out of reggie’s mouth, shilling.
“I refuse to believe they can’t make it happen for 3 years.”
–you just contradicted yourself. you said before it’ll take 3+ years to build it right, and now you’re blowing smoke up our azz trying to drum up optimism, shilling.
“Knapp, Hoffman, Pollack were terrible hires, but at least they saw the deficiencies and eliminated them.”
–no, they REPLACED a deficiency (OC) with a new deficiency (OC). They did not upgrade that position with a better OC. Sure, they brought in a better system. But the coach they hired to OC is not of a high caliber. It’s barrel-scrapping once again. Another terrible hire like Knapp before. Therefore, Reggie/Allen are not learning.
January 19th, 2013 at 6:32 am
J Hill Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 6:25 am
Priest,
You are trippin’ tying yourself to TP6 and smashing everything McKenzie does.
This is the RAIDERS, not the Pryors!
You refuse to accept the simple fact that things are being run by Davis Jr. now. Mistakes are going to be made just like Davis Sr. made. You NEVER were critical of the Raiders like you are now. You complain about EVERYTHING.
Damn shame!
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The only thing you r wrong about here is that you bothered to respond to priest in anyway. Pointless.
January 19th, 2013 at 6:36 am
This OC has never had a QB as good as Palmer and he will get McFadden rolling with the PBS! Now we just need a true #1 WR, legit TE, new center and RT and we are set!
Positive thoughts baby!
January 19th, 2013 at 6:39 am
–reggie’s fault. he blew up the existing working pbs/vertically-schemed roster,
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That’s BS!
Letting Satele and the backup RB for in FREE AGENCY is blowing up the roster????
Palmer, DMac, Moore, Ford, DHB, veldheer, barnes, Wiz, Carlisle, Myers, Gordon, Reece, and Ausberry ALL returned, lol.
January 19th, 2013 at 6:41 am
Now we just need a true #1 WR, legit TE, new center and RT and we are set!
Positive thoughts baby!
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New OGs, not Center, bruh.
Brisel and Carlisle.
Wonder if the new OGs are Nix and Bergstrom?
January 19th, 2013 at 6:43 am
J Hill Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 6:41 am
Now we just need a true #1 WR, legit TE, new center and RT and we are set!
Positive thoughts baby!
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New OGs, not Center, bruh.
Brisel and Carlisle.
Wonder if the new OGs are Nix and Bergstrom?
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We already have our new LG….Wiz back to LG, get a new center and RT.
January 19th, 2013 at 6:44 am
J Hill, I’m saying reggies fault the roster looks talentless. roster built for pbs/vertical scheme. he brought in wco/zbs, they let it drag out a whole year before realizing it didnt work, in the meantime, they brought in a zbs specialist OG (brisiel) and got rid of two pbs specialist tackles in Campbell and Barksdale. Now bringing the pbs back, reggie has to reconfigure his mistake by bringing in pbs specialist OL to replace the ones he let go. He also signed off on the offensive scheme that didn’t utilize the array of talent on the roster that Hue (a pbs/vertical coach) managed to make look good and show signs of promise.
January 19th, 2013 at 6:46 am
Greg Olson has six years’ experience as an NFL offensive coordinator — Lions, Rams and Buccaneers. Worked wonders with QB Josh Freeman.
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Worked wonders with Josh Freeman?????
Priest,
Did you know he worked with Freeman???
Why are you suggesting Pryor has been written off?
January 19th, 2013 at 6:48 am
GG Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 6:32 am
There’s so much wrong in your post…
“Right about the record, not the direction.”
–direction is whatever the record is.
“Now maybe we can get a picture of the coaching staff.”
–what are you even trying to say here?
“Talent is the problem, worse next year, all Al’s fault.”
–reggie’s fault. he blew up the existing working pbs/vertically-schemed roster, for the zbs/wco, let talent go, brought in blunders to serve the zbs/wco, and now has done a backflip, meaning having to retool the holes he created.
“But in 2014…blah blah”
–so yet another case of ‘ten and then’ mentality. every year buying another year’s excuse to suck. if as a gm reggie is waiting for $50M cap and 15 draft picks to make a difference, then he is not a good gm. any armchair gm here can build a good team with that. where gm’s make their mark is making things happen thru adversity, not blaming everyone else (which reggie does)
“I’m so sick of this win a couple extra games mentality…etc”
–That’s a straight copy-paste mentality out of reggie’s mouth, shilling.
“I refuse to believe they can’t make it happen for 3 years.”
–you just contradicted yourself. you said before it’ll take 3+ years to build it right, and now you’re blowing smoke up our azz trying to drum up optimism, shilling.
“Knapp, Hoffman, Pollack were terrible hires, but at least they saw the deficiencies and eliminated them.”
–no, they REPLACED a deficiency (OC) with a new deficiency (OC). They did not upgrade that position with a better OC. Sure, they brought in a better system. But the coach they hired to OC is not of a high caliber. It’s barrel-scrapping once again. Another terrible hire like Knapp before. Therefore, Reggie/Allen are not learning.
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There r no contradictions here. But not everything is black and white either. Do we just keep firing coaching staffs and front offices??? It’s worked so well for the last 20 years.
Would I like to have seen progression instead of regression last year? Of course. Is some of that DA and Reggie’s fault? Of course.
But this is a different rebuild then some of the quick fixes we’ve seen in the NFL the last few years (Tampa, SF, whatever). This team was a disaster. Ridiculous contracts (you do realize raiders contracts have been omitted from arbitration cases for 15 years, right?). Over rated talent (Routt, Kelley, whatever). No front office. No coaching staff (another “Hue” guy?)
So, I respect you. You respect me. I’m not an idiot. I see what’s going on here. Not just during the dark years of Al Davis. But w this regime as well. And btw, it’s not just Reggie that said “build for future, not just a game or two”. WE HAVE BEEN DOING THAT CRAP FOR 20 YEARS!!!! HOW HAS THAT GONE FOR US????
I’m not shilling. I probably am a homer, and why wouldn’t I be? But I’m not stupid. Far from it. So don’t try to pick a part a post and put it back together out of context in an attempt to make me look stupid. I wanna see what this staff can do. And I think even last years staff was severely handicapped by the cap and the lack of talent and depth. And I don’t excuse them for much of what happened, both Reggie and the coaches should have done more with less. That’s disappointing. But good teams win with consistency. They don’t just blow everything up every two years because its not going so well. Morons do that. And morons ask for that. We’ve been morons for two decades. It’s about time to start acting like a real football team. And yea, it’s possible that the entire front office and coaching staff r a heard of mumbling retards. Sorry if I’m hoping that ISN’T true. I know this, those mumbling retards know 10 times what you and I know about running a professional football team. So how about getting behind them and having a little hope. Otherwise, like I said. GTFO
January 19th, 2013 at 6:50 am
hey brought in a zbs specialist OG (brisiel) and got rid of two pbs specialist tackles in Campbell and Barksdale
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Is that your answer to blowing up the roster?
Veldheer, Carlisle, Barnes, and Wiz were all “ZBS specialists” brought in by Cable, man.
Campbell and Barksdale were not very good. That’s why they aren’t here.
January 19th, 2013 at 6:53 am
GG Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 6:44 am
J Hill, I’m saying reggies fault the roster looks talentless. roster built for pbs/vertical scheme. he brought in wco/zbs, they let it drag out a whole year before realizing it didnt work, in the meantime, they brought in a zbs specialist OG (brisiel) and got rid of two pbs specialist tackles in Campbell and Barksdale. Now bringing the pbs back, reggie has to reconfigure his mistake by bringing in pbs specialist OL to replace the ones he let go. He also signed off on the offensive scheme that didn’t utilize the array of talent on the roster that Hue (a pbs/vertical coach) managed to make look good and show signs of promise.
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Yea to all of that. But Campbell and barksdale? Really? Those r the trades/releases that r gonna come back to haunt us? Doubt it. Even in PBS, we can do better than those guys.
January 19th, 2013 at 6:55 am
If we move Wiz back to LG and get a C, I won’t have an issue with that. Either way, we need an interior OL cat to replace Carlisle. Wiz at C and Warmack at OG sounds DOMINANT. But Wiz at LG and say Barrett Jones at C wouldn’t be bad.
January 19th, 2013 at 6:58 am
John Elway: “Peyton, I got you a new QB Coach. Someone whose had great success in the past.”
Peyton: “Who did you hire?”
Elway: ” Greg Knapp, formerly OC for the Raider’s”
Peyton “WTF”
January 19th, 2013 at 6:59 am
Oak R8rs
“so how about getting behind them and having a little hope, otherwise gtfo”
that’s what they want, brainless cheerleaders to just not think and cheer rah-rah. sorry, i’ll interject the cheerleading whenever i see fit to constructively criticize and highlight the BS and negatives that are happening. Doesnt mean i abandon the raiders. doesn’t mean i have to be a brainless cheerleader or gtfo from being a fan. doesnt mean i wont still anticipate the season and see how we go with the draft, FA, preseason, and each regular season game. if things go well, i’ll praise. if they go bad, i’ll criticize.
I criticize right now with this hire because i have reason to. Just like you have reason to be optimistic or even love the hire based on whatever.
time will tell on this particular hire, but surely you can understand that one can always gauge the condition of the overall team by the track-record of what the regime has done before, comparing caliber and track-record of hires with other hires, etc.
just like you say…”this team is lacking talent”….based on what you saw last season, track-record….but what happens if under Olson they all look good again. There is reason to have doubts about the talent based on past. Just like there is reason to have doubts about the coaching hires based on past.
January 19th, 2013 at 6:59 am
So, I respect you. You respect me. I’m not an idiot. I see what’s going on here. Not just during the dark years of Al Davis. But w this regime as well. And btw, it’s not just Reggie that said “build for future, not just a game or two”. WE HAVE BEEN DOING THAT CRAP FOR 20 YEARS!!!! HOW HAS THAT GONE FOR US????
I’m not shilling. I probably am a homer, and why wouldn’t I be? But I’m not stupid. Far from it. So don’t try to pick a part a post and put it back together out of context in an attempt to make me look stupid. I wanna see what this staff can do. And I think even last years staff was severely handicapped by the cap and the lack of talent and depth. And I don’t excuse them for much of what happened, both Reggie and the coaches should have done more with less. That’s disappointing. But good teams win with consistency. They don’t just blow everything up every two years because its not going so well. Morons do that. And morons ask for that. We’ve been morons for two decades. It’s about time to start acting like a real football team. And yea, it’s possible that the entire front office and coaching staff r a heard of mumbling retards. Sorry if I’m hoping that ISN’T true. I know this, those mumbling retards know 10 times what you and I know about running a professional football team. So how about getting behind them and having a little hope. Otherwise, like I said. GTFO
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A-PHUCCING-MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 19th, 2013 at 7:01 am
Not Amen. Anyone who tells another to be only a happy-smilie sheep or gtfo is in the wrong.
January 19th, 2013 at 7:04 am
We just improved as the Donkey’s hired Knapp.
January 19th, 2013 at 7:05 am
just like you say…”this team is lacking talent”….based on what you saw last season, track-record….but what happens if under Olson they all look good again. There is reason to have doubts about the talent based on past. Just like there is reason to have doubts about the coaching hires based on past.
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Further on what i mean by that.
If you’re judging DHB and saying…”he’s pathetic, get rid of him, replace him with Bowe or Jennings”. On what basis would you make such a judgment? Track-record!
Just like I can pull up Olson’s track-record as OC and say “this is a bad hire, there were better high caliber coaches available (based on their track records) if they spent a bit more money and weren’t afraid of having a stronger former HC threaten their job”.
January 19th, 2013 at 7:08 am
It’s possible that Knapp does more to help the Raiders now than he did all of this season.
January 19th, 2013 at 7:09 am
Why the fvck would Chip Kelly, Brian Kelly, Bruce Arians, Andy Reid, Jon Gruden, etc, be in such high demand as HCs, why would Whisenhunt, Turner, Trestman, etc be in such high demand as OCs, and why would guys like Hue Jackson, Greg Olson, etc not be?
Because of track-record, because not only would hardcore fans of football be able to judge the caliber/track-record of them, but so do the GMs, owners, and HCs around the NFL.
January 19th, 2013 at 7:10 am
Ready to give Olson the chance – let’s see what he can do before we pass judgement.
At least its not Martz.
January 19th, 2013 at 7:11 am
I would have preferred Martz, but I like EVERYONE else in here has no idea who this guy is, what his strengths and weaknesses are, so we will just have to see.
LOL at peoples still upset about getting rid of Barksdale and Campbell.
Campbell sucks, Barksdale blew off OTA’s.
January 19th, 2013 at 7:15 am
GG Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 7:05 am
just like you say…”this team is lacking talent”….based on what you saw last season, track-record….but what happens if under Olson they all look good again. There is reason to have doubts about the talent based on past. Just like there is reason to have doubts about the coaching hires based on past.
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Further on what i mean by that.
If you’re judging DHB and saying…”he’s pathetic, get rid of him, replace him with Bowe or Jennings”. On what basis would you make such a judgment? Track-record!
Just like I can pull up Olson’s track-record as OC and say “this is a bad hire, there were better high caliber coaches available (based on their track records) if they spent a bit more money and weren’t afraid of having a stronger former HC threaten their job”.
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As far as DHB, I never said that and I don’t agree with it either. Bowe? Who the F suggested that? He’s a head case an did nothing last year. At least DHB works hard and plays hard, too bad he can’t catch.
And once again, I’m not asking anyone to go blindly ino the slaughter. I said earlier, I respect you an your opinions for the most part. And agree with alot of it. Once again, last year was a failure in EVERY area. Coaching. Player acquisition. Talent pool and depth. Scheme. You name it. It was a humiliating season and I’m embarrassed to be a raider fan right now. But while I don’t expect anyone to go blindly into the slaughter, I’m sick of people bashing everything before it even has a chance to work. To me, the knapp hire was an obvious disaster waiting to happen. Not so sure about this one. Certainly not worth NOT having hope.
January 19th, 2013 at 7:16 am
You can be optimistic and cheerlead, but you’re setting yourself up for a fall, for an emotional let-down when the season starts rolling, just like many of us immediately knew when they announced Knapp last year, even tho there were some who held out hope that ‘things will be different now because it’s a new regime, no al’. But if you poll everyone now, there would be 100% who are glad Knapp got canned. 100% who will even say he should’ve got canned before the bye week.
I understand if you haven’t seen Olson OC you could be excused for being optimistic and wait and see. But dont BS yourself about that and use that to try to blow smoke up our azzes.
PBS/Vertical > ZBS/WCO, yes. The scheme change is good. Olson tho not good.
Btw, I lol at how hard Cork is shilling Olson in twitter, blowing smoke “the architect of the greatest show on turf”.
January 19th, 2013 at 7:17 am
RIP: Earl Weaver
January 19th, 2013 at 7:17 am
Just like I can pull up Olson’s track-record as OC a
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Josh Freeman and Legarett Blount is the track record.
Steven Jackson and who at QB???
The HC is CLEARLY tring to build the offense around McFadden. Even last year. Thought he had a RB as good as if not better than Arian Foster. Brought in a running attack that was working for the best runner in the league and tried to feed it to 20.
Was it a mistake in thinking to feature 20????
We are trying it again by bringing in a guy who made his last 2 RBs look like all pro’s.
Are we wrong in trying to build around 20?
January 19th, 2013 at 7:18 am
mediocore…..
January 19th, 2013 at 7:19 am
As far as the DHB Crabtree comparisons….well at least DHB didn’t rape anyone!
Niners are going down!!!!!!
January 19th, 2013 at 7:20 am
Nothing official yet from the Raiders – just want to point that out.
Maybe the person who is “familiar with the situation” was,in fact,Dakota.
January 19th, 2013 at 7:20 am
I’ll round out all my criticisms by repeating like i always do…if im wrong, im happy to be so, happy to own up to it. All i want is for the raiders to be good, win, and get back the identity of dominance. Just get frustrated with the fumbling around in the dark trying to find something that works that this new noob regime has been doing since day one.
January 19th, 2013 at 7:21 am
Hey! I resemble that comment!
January 19th, 2013 at 7:21 am
why would Whisenhunt, Turner, Trestman, etc be in such high demand as OCs,
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High demand?
Who else gave Turner a shot other than us? He ended up in CLEVELAND!
Trestman’s only other interview was for a HC gig with one team.
January 19th, 2013 at 7:23 am
Olson worked with Drew Brees while at Purdue, helped Mark Bulger throw for 4301 yards with the Rams, and Josh Freeman have the best season of his career in 2010 (25 TD’s to 6 int, 95.9 passer rating). He likes his big armed pocket passers and that’s what Carson Palmer is.
January 19th, 2013 at 7:24 am
GG Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 7:20 am
I’ll round out all my criticisms by repeating like i always do…if im wrong, im happy to be so, happy to own up to it. All i want is for the raiders to be good, win, and get back the identity of dominance. Just get frustrated with the fumbling around in the dark trying to find something that works that this new noob regime has been doing since day one.
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Just look at it this way…..he will either work out and vastly improve the offense, or he will fail and we get a good pick and a new Head Coach after next season. Win win situation.
January 19th, 2013 at 7:25 am
GG Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 7:09 am
Why the fvck would Chip Kelly, Brian Kelly, Bruce Arians, Andy Reid, Jon Gruden, etc, be in such high demand as HCs, why would Whisenhunt, Turner, Trestman, etc be in such high demand as OCs, and why would guys like Hue Jackson, Greg Olson, etc not be?
Because of track-record, because not only would hardcore fans of football be able to judge the caliber/track-record of them, but so do the GMs, owners, and HCs around the NFL.
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Right on. Past performance is the best indication of future performance. Leveraging our future on hope is not a plan.
January 19th, 2013 at 7:25 am
Sorry!! My bad, but I couldn’t resist after being caught out during the week with that S.I.report!
January 19th, 2013 at 7:26 am
Dakota,
How about Nash at the end of the Heat game, lol???
Free Mike Brown!
January 19th, 2013 at 7:26 am
GG Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 7:16 am
You can be optimistic and cheerlead, but you’re setting yourself up for a fall, for an emotional let-down when the season starts rolling, just like many of us immediately knew when they announced Knapp last year, even tho there were some who held out hope that ‘things will be different now because it’s a new regime, no al’. But if you poll everyone now, there would be 100% who are glad Knapp got canned. 100% who will even say he should’ve got canned before the bye week.
I understand if you haven’t seen Olson OC you could be excused for being optimistic and wait and see. But dont BS yourself about that and use that to try to blow smoke up our azzes.
PBS/Vertical > ZBS/WCO, yes. The scheme change is good. Olson tho not good.
Btw, I lol at how hard Cork is shilling Olson in twitter, blowing smoke “the architect of the greatest show on turf”.
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I don’t expect anything next year. Never said that either. I’m hoping for 2014. And yes, I realize that that in and of itself is somewhat pathetic. But unfortunately I’m not a Patriot fan, so it’s pretty much what I’m left with. Hope that they aren’t all mumbling retards and we can be competitive in a year or two. It is what it is.
January 19th, 2013 at 7:27 am
J Hill Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 7:23 am
Olson worked with Drew Brees while at Purdue, helped Mark Bulger throw for 4301 yards with the Rams, and Josh Freeman have the best season of his career in 2010 (25 TD’s to 6 int, 95.9 passer rating). He likes his big armed pocket passers and that’s what Carson Palmer is.
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…and was fired as OC, relegated to QB coach in Jax and still failed…
January 19th, 2013 at 7:27 am
Thats nice.
Now we can get on with the most important task of finding good players.
Guys like Campbell and Barksdale and McClain and JR etc. etc. are examples of what has been wrong with our talent acquisition for over a decade.
There are players that love to play football and there are players that “say” they love to play football.
You need to sort out the BS.
That is the differentiation that Reggie has pointed out on numerous occasions he is looking for.
January 19th, 2013 at 7:27 am
J Hill Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 7:26 am
Dakota,
How about Nash at the end of the Heat game, lol???
Free Mike Brown!
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I DVR’d it and then once I saw the score I deleted it without watching it. What happened?
January 19th, 2013 at 7:28 am
Warmack or Millner at 3!
January 19th, 2013 at 7:28 am
Off to shovel some more snow.
Later Raiders.
January 19th, 2013 at 7:29 am
We’ll know Olson a lot better when he starts taking interviews and his ‘x&o’ starts coming out in his replies, how he responds to criticisms, challenges, etc.
Like how Knapp all last year, every time he opened his mouth at length exposed his poor thinking and attitude.
I’ll obviously get behind Olson, and look forward to him having learned from his past mistakes that he can evolve into a great OC. Let’s all meet in the middle of the regular season, when we can finally start to truly judge reggie and allen. 2013 is the year. No more “next year” type mentality.
January 19th, 2013 at 7:30 am
neilb Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 7:25 am
Sorry!! My bad, but I couldn’t resist after being caught out during the week with that S.I.report!
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Some things I report are true, so you have to look it up just in case…..muhahahahahaaaaaa
maybe i work for google?
January 19th, 2013 at 7:31 am
This comment is in regard to the the Te’o dead girl friend scandal-
Imagine how hard he’d bite on a Tom Brady play action play
LMAO!!!
January 19th, 2013 at 7:32 am
With the lack of picks and our cap situation 2014 is the earliest we will compete for a playoff spot.
That assumes we nail our next two drafts.
You could have Belichick as HC with Gruden as OC and Lebeau as DC and it would not make any difference.
“It’s going to be structured around the personnel part and getting good players,” Madden said. “It’s all about players. We can talk about this thing and that thing and having good cheerleaders and all that. That’s all nice but you have to have players. If you have players, you’re probably going to win. If you don’t have players, you’re not going to win. … They’re going to go out and get the best players, and if they don’t have them, then they’re going to keep trying until they get them.”
January 19th, 2013 at 7:32 am
Let’s just say old and slow, Dakota.
He was an embarrassment against Miami’s D. Looked worse than Jeremy Lin against then. They trapped the pick and roll all night and he just couldn’t dribble out of it. Turnovers, turnovers, turnovers.
And who was he supposed to guard???
D’Antonioo and Nash are complete JOKES!!!!
Shame on Buss Sr!!!!!
January 19th, 2013 at 7:32 am
they need to get a power back if only we had one….oh yeah bush. Get a masher but get a masher with some decent speed….
January 19th, 2013 at 7:34 am
Charlie,
Warmack at 3 and a #1 WR like Bowe has us fighting for a playoff spot.
January 19th, 2013 at 7:34 am
I think the new o-line coach hire and the ST coach hire are almost as important as this hire.
I have never seen special teams struggle to do basic things like last year. we need help in that area to stay in games. o-line coach has to be smart enough to move wiz back to LG and convince reggie to upgrade C and RT.
January 19th, 2013 at 7:35 am
they need to get a power back if only we had one
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Reece?
January 19th, 2013 at 7:36 am
J Hill Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 7:32 am
Let’s just say old and slow, Dakota.
He was an embarrassment against Miami’s D. Looked worse than Jeremy Lin against then. They trapped the pick and roll all night and he just couldn’t dribble out of it. Turnovers, turnovers, turnovers.
And who was he supposed to guard???
D’Antonioo and Nash are complete JOKES!!!!
Shame on Buss Sr!!!!!
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Should have hired
phil.
January 19th, 2013 at 7:37 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/19/raiders-hire-greg-olson-as-offensive-coordinator
When he called the plays for the rams in 2006 they had a 4000 yrd QB, 1500 yrd RB and two 1000 yrd WRS & were 10th in the league in scoring!!! And that was with Marc Bulger – not bad…but again, a QB coach and not a str8 coordinator.
Unfortunately, its the same guy from Tampa Bay a couple of years ago that was found to have a disturbing lack of leadership and offensive game planning skills – and was fired before the season began…
oh well
January 19th, 2013 at 7:39 am
“…and was fired as OC, relegated to QB coach in Jax and still failed…”
Yeah I agree we did exactly the same kind of retard hiring as if Al was still alive!
We waited while all the good OC were snatched up then had to settle for table scraps.
January 19th, 2013 at 7:39 am
Taking the family to Custer State park to see the Buffalos and feed carrots to the Donks….laters.
January 19th, 2013 at 7:40 am
C2E Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 7:27 am
J Hill Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 7:23 am
Olson worked with Drew Brees while at Purdue, helped Mark Bulger throw for 4301 yards with the Rams, and Josh Freeman have the best season of his career in 2010 (25 TD’s to 6 int, 95.9 passer rating). He likes his big armed pocket passers and that’s what Carson Palmer is.
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…and was fired as OC, relegated to QB coach in Jax and still failed…
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To be fair he had a garbage and uncertain QB in Blaine Gabbert . Mike McCoy and anybody else would’ve failed there as well – Eugene Monroe was their LT?!
but i understand the concern…i’m a little underwhelmed, too
January 19th, 2013 at 7:41 am
We waited while all the good OC were snatched up
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who were the good OCs?
January 19th, 2013 at 7:41 am
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 7:32 am
they need to get a power back if only we had one….oh yeah bush. Get a masher but get a masher with some decent speed….
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Your butt buddy Al Davis screwed us on that one. Should have extended him when we had the chance. And couldn’t afford the $7 million the Bears paid him to be a backup. Also Al Davis’ fault. Way to go Al!!!
January 19th, 2013 at 7:41 am
You Raider fans do realize that Jacksonville had the 32 ranked offense last year and we just hired their OC.
January 19th, 2013 at 7:42 am
LOL at “failing” in Jacksonville.
Blaine Gabbert, folks!
January 19th, 2013 at 7:43 am
J Hill Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 7:35 am
they need to get a power back if only we had one
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Reece?
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Check out the dude they signed to future/reserve.
January 19th, 2013 at 7:43 am
We actually hired their QB coach, not their OC.
January 19th, 2013 at 7:44 am
We can look for a WR in round 7.
I think our priorities would be OT/DT then DE.
After that it is best available.
Age, injury history and lack of talent are MAJOR problems.
BARNES Free agent cast off from Jacksonville. 30 years old. The Denver game is all you should need to see that he can NOT compete at the NFL level. Requires major max protect against good dlines which limits our offensive options.
CARLISLE 35 years old. Probably retiring after this year. Can Bergstrom backfill?
BRISIEL Free agent 29 years old Average performance at best this year. Possible rebound after ankle surgery.
SHAUGNESSY Complete non factor as a pass rusher. Ineffective on rush defense as well. Continues to lose playing time to Carter who is 33.
KELLY 32 years old. Undrafted free agent signed most lucrative deal for a DT in NFL history. Easily neutralized by good Olines. Only applies rush pressure against weak fronts. Has been part of Dlines that are routinely shredded by good running backs at an embarrassingly high statistical level. The Tampa game should tell you how quickly he can disappear.
SEYMOUR 33 years old Body is shot. Cannot practice let alone play. Will not be in NFL next year. Disastrous.
Houston, Wiz II, Veldheer show promise. The rest would not be starting anywhere else in the NFL.
It will take two drafts just to deal with these holes.
January 19th, 2013 at 7:45 am
Blount and Freeman had GREAT years the last time they were under Olson.
You’re blaming Olson for Raheem Morris’ problems running his team?
January 19th, 2013 at 7:46 am
Nash makes everyone better….including the other teams PG
January 19th, 2013 at 7:47 am
I wonder what Toronto would give us for Nash?
January 19th, 2013 at 7:48 am
Things that Mark has done well since becoming our new owner:
Fill up the stadium (almost) every Sunday
Repair old broken relationships with people like Marcus Allen
Stay behind the scenes and not meddle
Has not sold out for LA is committed to keeping us here
Understands we need to move into the modern era
Things Mark has not done well since taking over his fathers business:
Hire RM who hired DA who hired Knapp who destroyed our offense and now with this new hire we could get even worse.
I think there needs to be one or two more front office hires to compliment RM.
January 19th, 2013 at 7:48 am
How is Barnes a “FA castoff”?
He started 3 playoff games at LT. He and Clady have the most playoff starts of any tackle in our division I believe.
He is from NorCal and wanted to come home.
If Barnes leaves, he will have an offer to start at RT for at least 10 teams.
But I doubt he will leave.
January 19th, 2013 at 7:49 am
RaiderSam Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 7:40 am
C2E Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 7:27 am
J Hill Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 7:23 am
Olson worked with Drew Brees while at Purdue, helped Mark Bulger throw for 4301 yards with the Rams, and Josh Freeman have the best season of his career in 2010 (25 TD’s to 6 int, 95.9 passer rating). He likes his big armed pocket passers and that’s what Carson Palmer is.
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To be fair he had a garbage and uncertain QB in Blaine Gabbert . Mike McCoy and anybody else would’ve failed there as well – Eugene Monroe was their LT?!
but i understand the concern…i’m a little underwhelmed, too
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he turned down the Chicago QB coaching job to go to the Jags. “come on man”
January 19th, 2013 at 7:49 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 7:41 am
You Raider fans do realize that Jacksonville had the 32 ranked offense last year and we just hired their OC.
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Their QB coach I think. And they had one talented player, Maurice jones drew, who went down. And one bad QB. Not much to work with. With all of our problems, we have a little more to look forward to than that at least. And hopefully Olsen can do more with it too.
January 19th, 2013 at 7:50 am
Reggie gonna have to invest a lot in OL, to run so much 7-step drops, Palmer is gonna get killed otherwise. He’s not as mobile as Freeman to buy a little extra time. And that’s not going to cut it either, vertical offense has to be precision timed routes/passing.
January 19th, 2013 at 7:52 am
Love this hire for OC now lets hire good coaches for the remaining opening jobs
January 19th, 2013 at 7:52 am
“We actually hired their QB coach, not their OC.”
Sounds like Knapp part 2 if you ask me!
That whole front office and coaching staff was let go in Jacksonville because they stunk so bad! Stop being so myopic jhill
January 19th, 2013 at 7:52 am
It’s really simple, folks.
If Palmer and McFadden play well, Olson will be a great hire.
If the WRs run the correct routes and catch the ball, Olson will be the man.
Willies and Joes!!!!!
January 19th, 2013 at 7:54 am
Reggie will blow a lot of Geno Smith smoke hoping the Chiefs take him. Still have to worry about jaguars. In order for Joeckel to fall to #3.
Alternatively, Reggie can trade down a few times in the 1st collect some 2nds and 3rds, and go from there.
January 19th, 2013 at 7:55 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 7:52 am
“We actually hired their QB coach, not their OC.”
Sounds like Knapp part 2 if you ask me!
That whole front office and coaching staff was let go in Jacksonville because they stunk so bad! Stop being so myopic jhill
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And because they have a new owner. Sound familiar?????
January 19th, 2013 at 7:56 am
“Willies and Joes!!!!!”
Touche!
You got me…I am the one who preaches “its not the X’s and O’s its the willies and the Joes”
January 19th, 2013 at 7:56 am
“And because they have a new owner. Sound familiar?????”
Play Twilight Zone Theme music….
January 19th, 2013 at 7:57 am
! Stop being so myopic jhill
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Still waiting on your list of good OCs that were scooped up.
Because I’m waiting on something bad to happen BEFORE I start complaining, I’m being myopic?
The new OC favors power blocking which is what everyone says 20 needs/needed to be successful. His last QB as an OC had damn good numbers.
Don’t see the issue.
January 19th, 2013 at 7:58 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 7:56 am
“And because they have a new owner. Sound familiar?????”
Play Twilight Zone Theme music….
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LMFAO
January 19th, 2013 at 7:58 am
“Alternatively, Reggie can trade down a few times in the 1st collect some 2nds and 3rds, and go from there.”
This is a better move for a team that has so many needs.
January 19th, 2013 at 7:58 am
JFB
That is why you guys continue to blame coaches and are dissappointed when we go 4-12.
If you watched the Denver game on 12/6/12 you should be able to see BARNES CAN NOT COMPETE AGAINST A GOOD DLINE AND LINEBACKERS.
On top of that his injury history is poor and his age is high risk. You have to play to produce.
That has been our recipe for disaster for the last decade.
Free agent scraps that their previous employer thought were expendable. We over pay them and tell the coaches “make it happen”. IT WILL NOT HAPPEN.
SEVEN DIFFERENT STAFFS OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS WITH THE SAME RESULTS SHOULD TELL YOU THAT.
Our lines are in awful shape and they need to be rebuilt through the draft. TWO MORE YEARS AT BEST.
January 19th, 2013 at 7:59 am
He likes his big armed pocket passers and that’s what Carson Palmer is.
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Once upon a time, maybe.
These days, CP’s salary is alot bigger than his arm.
Elbow is shot.
Pocket passer ? Most definitely.
Doesn’t have the wheels to be anything but.
However, is almost totally immobile within the pocket.
Either unwilling or unable to step up or ’slide’ within the pocket.
Savvy vet QB that will pick up the new playbook easily.
Will look good at times.
Will come up small and make game altering unforced errors at the worst times.
Definitely not worth the astronomical salary he’s slated to receive.
The elephant in the room quandry of how to secure a franchise QB still needs to be addressed.
January 19th, 2013 at 8:00 am
def an upgrade, DMC & CP3 will thrive….also means new OL to protect for deep passes. OL will be either a top FA signing or top draft pick (the other will be a pass rusher) Remember he worked for Gruden, has a Superbowl Ring, Had success a different stops with definitely different level of talents….AND HIS NAME AINT KNAPP!!!!
January 19th, 2013 at 8:01 am
A GREAT OC hire would have been getting a guy like Josh McDaniels to leave the Patriots and make a LATERAL move here to Oakland.
Where did anything like that happen around the league? I think one guy took a lteral move but got the asst HC tag too, right?
Fact of the matter is all the canduhdates were former failures in some capacity, lol. That’s why they were ALL looking for jobs.
January 19th, 2013 at 8:02 am
That is why you guys continue to blame coaches and are dissappointed when we go 4-12.
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I complain about the coaches??
LMAO
January 19th, 2013 at 8:03 am
“The new OC favors power blocking which is what everyone says 20 needs/needed to be successful. His last QB as an OC had damn good numbers.”
This is a plus….on the other side he was on a team that sucked so bad the entire coaching staff was let go.
To answer your question….besides Norv Turner and Marty Morningwig, maybe Ken Weisenhunt, Mike Shula, John McNulty, Pete Carmichael to name a few….
January 19th, 2013 at 8:05 am
Our removed OC goes to manning and we replace it with the Gabbert oc. Just spin baby.
January 19th, 2013 at 8:06 am
We have waaaaaay more starting NFL talent at our O-line than WR and QB.
Veldheer starts for more teams than Carson does. Same with probably Wiz. Barnes played LT in playoff wins before he came here.
Meanwhile, DHB might not make some NFL rosters unless he learned to play ST, like Hagan. D-Moore is our #1, he would be a #2 at best everywhere else, more like a #3.
Top FA priority is finding a guy to make these world class catches on jump balls you saw all last weekend.
January 19th, 2013 at 8:07 am
My initial die hard reaction = underwhelmed.
Objective reaction, this was to be seen coming our way. When Reg said they are building for the long term he meant it. They want up and comers, people barely on the radar. People that can gel together through the building process without any past pretense or baggage.
Is this guy going to produce? I don’t know. I don’t know much about the guy besides what I’ve read. Only time will tell and the 13 season. But i’ll support him.
January 19th, 2013 at 8:07 am
“The elephant in the room quandry of how to secure a franchise QB still needs to be addressed.”
Yeah DUH there are 25 other teams trying to figure that out as well because Brady’s and Manning’s don’t grow on trees. Which is why we have Palmer until that guy grows on some tree somewhere. Think about it!
This years draft NO WAY! wait until next year to draft a QB
January 19th, 2013 at 8:07 am
Marty ran a WCO which we didn’t want.
Norv ran over to beg for the job right after the Charger game and we laughed in his face.
Wisenhunts offense has been terrible since Warner left. Olson’s has been better.
Those other guys are different variations of Olson.
January 19th, 2013 at 8:09 am
Although a switch to the PBS means more meat-headed, 3rd and 1 failed runs up the middle.
We were 18th in the league in 3rd and 1 runs converted. I bet we recede in that number next year.
3rd and 1…..sling it.
January 19th, 2013 at 8:09 am
what a dvmbdvck…reggie didnt sign him idiot…
January 19th, 2013 at 8:10 am
Part of being a head coach is to recruit the best coordinators. After having the max amount of time to recruit this is the best we can do?
January 19th, 2013 at 8:10 am
FIRE REGGIE NOW.
January 19th, 2013 at 8:11 am
Manning has zero playoff wins as a Donkey.
TEAM game!
Palmer is just fine at QB.
January 19th, 2013 at 8:13 am
Most teams will have to switch to PBS with the new rules about blocking below the knees.
January 19th, 2013 at 8:14 am
If only we had hired Olsen last year instead of knapp! We could have been 8 and 8 again, lost to Denver twice, missed the playoffs, and been in much worse draft position. Damn!
January 19th, 2013 at 8:14 am
tickets to the fire reggie bandwagon…will be given out at dennys…
January 19th, 2013 at 8:15 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 8:07 am
“The elephant in the room quandry of how to secure a franchise QB still needs to be addressed.”
Yeah DUH there are 25 other teams trying to figure that out as well because Brady’s and Manning’s don’t grow on trees. Which is why we have Palmer until that guy grows on some tree somewhere. Think about it!
This years draft NO WAY! wait until next year to draft a QB
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Agreed 666, some act as if finding a franchise QB is easy. The worst is reaching for someone to be your franchise QB, trying to develop them and having them not pan out.
January 19th, 2013 at 8:15 am
ZBS has very little to do with blocking below the knees.
It is a horizontal vs. vertical thing.
Watch the Ravens, they run ZBS, not much chop-blocking except on the 2nd level.
January 19th, 2013 at 8:16 am
JFB
You are completely out of touch with why this team is terrible.
How did the Lions do with CJ if WR is an impact position?
You build your team from the inside out and our lines stink.
Wiz, Veldheer, Houston. That is pretty much it.
The rest have injury question marks, flat out lack talent, are getting too old to be reliable, are way overpaid relative to production or some toxic combination of the above deficiencies.
You are deluding your self constantly worrying about anything else.
We need massive line upgrades THROUGH THE DRAFT TO GET BACK TO WINNING.
January 19th, 2013 at 8:16 am
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 8:14 am
tickets to the fire reggie bandwagon…will be given out at dennys…
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I haven’t heard the “in Reggie we Trust” lately
January 19th, 2013 at 8:17 am
Don’t know all that much about Olson, but the board called this and I had a gut feeling as well. Olson just felt like a low-salary, yes-man, nevermind the uninspiring track record kind of move and that seems to be the preferred candidate in Oakland these days.
And is this a blog article or a PR announcement by Cork? Cork is hella defensive in this post. What’s up with that?
Developing Freeman? Freeman was terrible and regressed very badly in the 2011 season. Not sure that should be a resume higlight.
Anyway, guy deserves a shot, but I don’t think anyone, outside of the beat writers apparently, has much faith in Reggie and DA to find great under the radar coaching talent these days.
January 19th, 2013 at 8:17 am
There are NO franchise QB’s in this draft. Only gambles.
January 19th, 2013 at 8:18 am
SilverLining20 Says:
January 17th, 2013 at 4:09 pm
Prepare for the Greg Olson era.
Greatness.
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That was mostly a joke, but oh well!
I would have thought when we did everything we could to lose to the Jags but still beat them, that would give us some leverage to hire Mularky. Is Olson better than Mularky? Cheaper? Well I’m sure that goes without saying. Plus, we’ll still be paying Knapp next year.
I gave one QB coach a chance at OC, guess I’ll wait til the 2nd half of the first game to judge this guy too. Seems like everybody we hire is “well regarded.”
I’m just glad we didn’t promote Al Saunders. Why is he so well regarded anyway? We’re able to just keep him on staff and nobody cares to interview him.
January 19th, 2013 at 8:19 am
I like it. Sometimes a new environment is best for everybody.
A new stadium would be very nice.
January 19th, 2013 at 8:19 am
4-12 dvnmbfvck..
January 19th, 2013 at 8:20 am
Chris In NY Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 8:17 am
Anyway, guy deserves a shot, but I don’t think anyone, outside of the beat writers apparently, has much faith in Reggie and DA to find great under the radar coaching talent these days.
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I’m waiting for Reggie and DA to prove the doubters wrong (including myself), but they keep making the same type of decisions. We won’t truly know how Olsen does until the year starts, but I’m not impressed with the hire. It really does feel like we are bargain hunting.
January 19th, 2013 at 8:21 am
jfb theres a cut block on the backside 90% of the time! thats his you get those cutback runs..smh
January 19th, 2013 at 8:23 am
How did the Lions do with CJ if WR is an impact position?
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They made the playoffs last year.
They improved 4 games in his rookie year.
Not bad huh?
January 19th, 2013 at 8:24 am
Charlie,
Falcons invested just about every resource into their QB-WR-TE combo.
How’s that working for them?
January 19th, 2013 at 8:26 am
Everything is predicated on the OL. Every other position swims or sinks based on the performance of the OL. Even franchise QB.
OL > QB > DL > RB/WR > LB > DB > TE
January 19th, 2013 at 8:26 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 8:09 am
Although a switch to the PBS means more meat-headed, 3rd and 1 failed runs up the middle.
We were 18th in the league in 3rd and 1 runs converted. I bet we recede in that number next year.
3rd and 1…..sling it.
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I didn’t have much of a problem with the 3rd and 1 failed runs up the middle
Can’t really remember too many of those.
Had a huge problem with the 3rd and 1 and 3rd and goal zbs stretch runs that never worked.
Come to think of it, those zbs stretch runs didn’t work in ANY down or distance.
Not with this team or this personnel.
18th in the NFL on 3rd and 1 runs converted ?
WHOOOPDEEEFREAKINGDOO.
How about going from one of the better rushing teams overall to one of the worst ?
Thank God Krapp is gone.
Olson can’t be any worse.
January 19th, 2013 at 8:29 am
“This is really quite fantastic…We’re so excited we can hardly think…and by the way, which one’s Pink?”
January 19th, 2013 at 8:29 am
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Thank God Krapp is gone.
Olson can’t be any worse.
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That’s what I said about Chck and our defense.
Good luck!
January 19th, 2013 at 8:30 am
well, I was wrong. I was sure they would hire some no name guy that nobody’s ever heard of.
Instead, they hire a no name most have heard of but few really care about.
way to think outside box.
January 19th, 2013 at 8:30 am
#528: Come on…The ZBS was “just about to break loose”…LMAO
January 19th, 2013 at 8:31 am
Chico,
Charlie is a good poster, but he needs to evolve like the NFL. Dude thinks its 1976.
January 19th, 2013 at 8:33 am
I agree that we need to build on the lines, though I think our dline has more talent than you might think. I think Bryant and Houston are rock-solid starters. I haven’t lost total faith in Shaughnessy and Bilukidi could be an up and comer.-We need speed though. I said that from the day talk of cutting Wimbley surfaced.
The oline needs more work, though serviceable o-linemen are probably a little easier to find than on the d-line. I think if Joeckel somehow gets to us at 3 we’ve gotta take him.-
January 19th, 2013 at 8:34 am
“Agreed 666, some act as if finding a franchise QB is easy. The worst is reaching for someone to be your franchise QB, trying to develop them and having them not pan out.”
Glad someone else sees it too!
January 19th, 2013 at 8:34 am
The ZarMac and Junior have reached into the bargain basement and found Greg Olson, what?
I guess he’s being rewarded for the great job he did with Blaine Gabbert as his qb coach.
January 19th, 2013 at 8:35 am
I think if Joeckel somehow gets to us at 3 we’ve gotta take him.-
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Warmack grades out just as high.
What are your thoughts in taking him?
January 19th, 2013 at 8:35 am
“I agree that we need to build on the lines, though I think our dline has more talent than you might think. I think Bryant and Houston are rock-solid starters. I haven’t lost total faith in Shaughnessy and Bilukidi could be an up and comer.-We need speed though. I said that from the day talk of cutting Wimbley surfaced.
The oline needs more work, though”
The 49ers have 3 1st round draft choices on their O-Line.
January 19th, 2013 at 8:36 am
So DA hires joey harringtons ex OC at detroit, and ex jaccksonville qb coach.
WOA at least Knapp had some success as a OC
January 19th, 2013 at 8:36 am
Brown and Eagles invested a lot in their OLs and what were the results?
Steelers and Giants won 4 SBs this decade (not 1976) without investing a lot in their OLs.
Those are facts!
Lets stick with the facts (not opinions), and try to remember that the game has evolved and its not the same as 1976 football.
January 19th, 2013 at 8:37 am
Whether it’s 2013, 1976 or 1923, everything in football is predicated on the OL/DL battle.
Look at Chip Kelly’s ‘new wave’ football. It’s entirely predicated on creating holes. Even incorporates principles from the early 1900’s.
Great link on this: http://smartfootball.com/offense/studying-the-raw-materials-of-chip-kellys-offense
January 19th, 2013 at 8:38 am
Some teams don’t have a FB on their roster. It’s not 1976!
January 19th, 2013 at 8:40 am
Greg Olson hire means 3 things:
1.- RM and DA believe in TP
2.- DA will be fired paving the way to Gruden in 14
3.- Pencil the Raiders for a top 5 pick next year
January 19th, 2013 at 8:41 am
If Reggie doesn’t hire this scrub he is not an NFL OC this season.
Uninspiring.
January 19th, 2013 at 8:41 am
Actually this could work out well for the Raiders…
If this all blows up in their face next year we will see a new GM, HC, and new staff.
They hired the worst of all possible candidates because he is the only one who said yes.
Something is very wrong in Oakland.
January 19th, 2013 at 8:41 am
GG Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 8:37 am
Whether it’s 2013, 1976 or 1923, everything in football is predicated on the OL/DL battle.
Look at Chip Kelly’s ‘new wave’ football. It’s entirely predicated on creating holes. Even incorporates principles from the early 1900’s.
Great link on this: http://smartfootball.com/offense/studying-the-raw-materials-of-chip-kellys-offense
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Am I the only one that thinks Chip is going to flop in the NFL?
January 19th, 2013 at 8:42 am
O,
Are you saying that 2013 football doesn’t require dominant Oline play?
I think while you don’t see too many dominant Olines, when you get one, the pluses are undeniable.
Wiz, Warmack, and Veldheer all next to each other could be DOMINANT.
January 19th, 2013 at 8:42 am
KC reid
Denver fox
SD mcoy wisenhunt
OAK olson!!
Oak 4-12 in 2013
January 19th, 2013 at 8:43 am
Raider O Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 8:29 am
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Thank God Krapp is gone.
Olson can’t be any worse.
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That’s what I said about Chck and our defense.
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I think Tarver did an OK job.
Not saying the defense was much better, but my feeling was that was due more to the constant turnover in the secondary than due to Tarver doing a lousy job.
I have no problem with Tarver returning.
If Krapp came back, I was done with this team until he was gone.
One of the worst OCs ever.
From his sh1tty use of personnel, booooring scheme, and horrible play calling – just a complete and utter failure.
It’s literally impossible for OLSON to be worse.
January 19th, 2013 at 8:44 am
I have always been a proponent of building the Oline since the best defense is a good offense.
That is especially true when playing Peyton.
I would be fine with a can’t miss OT.
We still have massive holes elsewhere.
Our competition has Ngata and Woolfolk and you want to talk about Bryant and Bilikidi??????????
We will never be a consistently, strong, winning franchise building our lines with low round draft picks or free agents.
Taken to another extreme, we will not be able to beat our competition when they consistently use high picks to build this part of their team.
These are typically 270-320 pound athletes that need to have the agility and quickness of college level skill players. We are not likely to find premier or at least very good lineman in the fifth to seventh round or packing out at Wal Mart THAT ARE BETTER THAN WHAT OTHER NFL TEAMS HAVE.
We need to build OUR CORE through the draft and expend enough high round draft picks on lineman to ensure superior line play. The way the Raiders used to do it. You build the core of your team through the draft especially with the rookie cap in place. You use FA’s for niche pieces to buy time or plug a hole.
January 19th, 2013 at 8:44 am
Here is a guy we should have looked at:
Bruce Arians hires Harold Goodwin as offensive coordinator
“Harold Goodwin, who coached under Arians as offensive line coach in Indianapolis last year, will be the Cardinals’ offensive coordinator this season, according to multiple reports.”
We should have interviewed this guy.
January 19th, 2013 at 8:45 am
It wasn’t about the only one who said yes. It was about Allen wanting “the right guy”, meaning a yes-man type who bounces around the league as a position coach who doesn’t threaten his job, and comes cheap.
January 19th, 2013 at 8:46 am
Our competition has Ngata and Woolfolk and you want to talk about Bryant and Bilikidi??????????
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NEs defense has been pretty sorry the past few years.
We can’t all have a Ngata.
January 19th, 2013 at 8:46 am
I’d rather have Ed Reed than Ngata.
January 19th, 2013 at 8:49 am
if we made this desperation move in hopes to salvage the career of Darren McFadden (in a contract year), it’s time for Mark Davis to hire Ray Anderson. Reggie needs a Supervisor, because he doesn’t know what he’s doing. Perhaps he took too many hits to the head playing linebacker??
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Rockstar:
“Reggie needs a supervisor, because he doesn’t know what he’s doing.”?
I don’t know Rockstar, if he doesn’t know what he’s doing then surely he shouldn’t have the job.
Why hire someone to do the job for him?
McKenziee didn’t have a good first year any more than Allen did. Both are new at the job as is the majority owner Mark.
It’s a done deal now though and we’ll have to see how they both do this year.
I just want to see a really good OL coach hired at this point.
It’s really interesting to me that the Raiders have apparently been seeking the counsel of Gruden.
Never did like Gruden’s system but there was never any doubt that he knew what he was doing.
January 19th, 2013 at 8:50 am
It wasn’t about the only one who said yes. It was about Allen wanting “the right guy”, meaning a yes-man type who bounces around the league as a position coach who doesn’t threaten his job, and comes cheap.
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So you really don’t think winning is the priority for DA?
Why would he not simply hire who he thought was the best guy?
You’re saying that DA would pass on a guy like Norv because he was scared of him being successful and taking over his job?
So he’d rather have a bum like Olson who won’t threaten his job?
Cmon, man!
January 19th, 2013 at 8:51 am
Stink Schlereth was joking that Kelly to the Eagles was a great fit, because his offense doesn’t require O-lineman to block (seemed pretty intent on that) and the Eagles can’t block anyways.
January 19th, 2013 at 8:52 am
Guys.
I hear all the nonsense about this is a passing league.
IT IS NOT. If it was then Detroit wins the Super Bowl every year because they have the best receiver in the world.
The only teams that consistently win are teams that run AND pass.
They also stop the run and rush the passer.
YOU WIN BY DOMINATING THE LINE OF SCRIMMAGE.
Peyton, Ben, Brady and Eli all look very average without time to throw.
We will win by drafting physically gifted, very ill tempered lineman in the first and second round.
As I said earlier, you need to draft guys like love to play football.
Not just “say” they love to play.
January 19th, 2013 at 8:52 am
If everything is predicated on the O-line, how come Tom Brady has had 25+ starting O-lineman in his career, and his play never varies?
When he got Randy Moss though, he had his best year ever.
January 19th, 2013 at 8:53 am
Rudegruden Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 8:10 am
Part of being a head coach is to recruit the best coordinators. After having the max amount of time to recruit this is the best we can do?
i totally agree. we sat back and watched a dozen good OCs get signed before we found this guy. and we have the senior bowl to coach. unreal
January 19th, 2013 at 8:53 am
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 8:43 am
I think Tarver did an OK job.
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I agree. Especially in the latter half of the year and considering the players that we had on defense last year.
Yes, we playing “easier” teams but the defense was much more focussed.
January 19th, 2013 at 8:53 am
Ed Reed is a great player but is also effective because of a great front 7 that puts pressure on the QB, forcing him to make suspect throws into coverage, or panicking into a wrong read where Ed Reed’s nous and acumen can put himself in the right place at the right time.
January 19th, 2013 at 8:55 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 7:41 am
You Raider fans do realize that Jacksonville had the 32 ranked offense last year and we just hired their OC.
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If its “we” Raider fans, I guess were still in it together, right?
January 19th, 2013 at 8:56 am
Chris in NY Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 8:33 am
I agree that we need to build on the lines, though I think our dline has more talent than you might think. I think Bryant and Houston are rock-solid starters. I haven’t lost total faith in Shaughnessy and Bilukidi could be an up and comer.-We need speed though. I said that from the day talk of cutting Wimbley surfaced.
The oline needs more work, though serviceable o-linemen are probably a little easier to find than on the d-line. I think if Joeckel somehow gets to us at 3 we’ve gotta take him.-
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Jockel and Warmack are seriously in play now….
January 19th, 2013 at 8:57 am
J Hill Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 8:50 am
It wasn’t about the only one who said yes. It was about Allen wanting “the right guy”, meaning a yes-man type who bounces around the league as a position coach who doesn’t threaten his job, and comes cheap.
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So you really don’t think winning is the priority for DA?
Why would he not simply hire who he thought was the best guy?
You’re saying that DA would pass on a guy like Norv because he was scared of him being successful and taking over his job?
So he’d rather have a bum like Olson who won’t threaten his job?
Cmon, man!
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Again, its an issue of mutual interest. would the top OC’s come here?
Someone has to TURN THEIR CAREER AROUND. It isnt about highly regarding OC’s, its about players coming together as a unit and deciding to elevate their game to the next level
January 19th, 2013 at 8:57 am
Here is the 4 teams remaining pass/run ratio:
49ers 50/50
Pats 57/43
Ravens 58/42
Falcons 63/37
I like the Falcons model, throw it 65% of the time. Heave up multiple deep balls, draw some PI’s, etc.
January 19th, 2013 at 8:58 am
J Hill Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 8:50 am
It wasn’t about the only one who said yes. It was about Allen wanting “the right guy”, meaning a yes-man type who bounces around the league as a position coach who doesn’t threaten his job, and comes cheap.
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So you really don’t think winning is the priority for DA?
Why would he not simply hire who he thought was the best guy?
You’re saying that DA would pass on a guy like Norv because he was scared of him being successful and taking over his job?
So he’d rather have a bum like Olson who won’t threaten his job?
Cmon, man!
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As Hunter S Thompson said before…if we didnt hire Olson he wouldn’t be OC’ing anywhere else. He’d be picked up somewhere for a QB coaching job MAYBE. He was fired from the Jaguars end of the season.
There were a ton of better candidates out there, both experienced in the NFL or college talents with high potential (a lot of them recently hired, some just last couple days).
Olson is not highly regarded. People say…where’s Hue now lol, not getting any interest from around the league hehe. If it wasn’t for Allen/Reggie no one would hire Olson as OC, like no one would hire Knapp as OC. Only QB Coach (houston/denver).
January 19th, 2013 at 8:59 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 8:51 am
Stink Schlereth was joking that Kelly to the Eagles was a great fit, because his offense doesn’t require O-lineman to block (seemed pretty intent on that) and the Eagles can’t block anyways.
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Couldn’t be more wrong. How about watching some of those videos posted in that link i provided before you opine on a scheme.
January 19th, 2013 at 8:59 am
And for the people saying stats are for geeks, look at what the Falcons and Dimitroff are doing with all their statistical analysis. He has multiple ivy-lead egg heads in his staff, that never probably even threw a football in their life, better yet played it.
The football version of Sabermetrics is coming, I hope Reggie’s new computers can keep up.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:00 am
Couldn’t be more wrong. How about watching some of those videos posted in that link i provided before you opine on a scheme.
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Just relaying what a former NFL Super Bowl champion O-lineman is saying.
Don’t shoot the messenger.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:02 am
Charlie Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 8:52 am
Guys.
I hear all the nonsense about this is a passing league.
IT IS NOT.
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That’s your opinion, I respect that, but facts and stats don’t support your opinion/ argument.
It’s a passing league. That’s a fact, and it makes no sense to argue that fact.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:02 am
Without Ngata, Ray Lewis retires leaves Baltimore. Lewis said so.
“Ray Lewis made his point clear. Ten days before Saturday’s NFL Draft, he went on ESPN and said his Baltimore Ravens needed to draft a run-stuffing nose tackle in the first round. His former teammate, Maake Kemoeatu, a 350-pound nose tackle, had signed as a free agent with Carolina.
Without a big man in front of him, Lewis complained, he could not make plays. “If I’m not being used right,” he said, “you might as well let me go.”"
Ed Reed is not covering anyone for five seconds.
Teo dissappears when his Dline gets pushed back four yards.
It all starts with line of scrimmage.
9 of your starting 22 (41%) plays exclusively in the box.
OLines create time and space. Dlines destroy time and space.
The rest of the pieces fill in the gaps.
Build dominant lines and everyone else looks better.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:02 am
http://smartfootball.com/offense/studying-the-raw-materials-of-chip-kellys-offense
January 19th, 2013 at 9:02 am
Morn nation , how’s everyone doing on this fine sat
January 19th, 2013 at 9:03 am
Ngata wasn’t a NT though, Kelly Gregg was the NT for almost 10 years in Baltimore.
A 6th round pick, BTW
January 19th, 2013 at 9:04 am
I saw a lot of unblocked guys missing tackles in that video.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:04 am
Watch at least the first 3 videos linked above then type something back at me.
It’s all explained well and simply without heavy coaching jargon.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:04 am
A great QB will give you a chance to win a SB even behind a mediocre line.
A mediocre QB is extremely unlikely to win a SB even with an excellent OLine.
The rare exceptions of less than stellar QB’s winning the SB have almost invariably come with the aid of a dominating defense. Not due to a dominating OLine.
Of course it’s important to have a strong O line.
But you’re kidding yourself if you don’t think QB is the most important position.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:04 am
J Hill Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 7:47 am
I wonder what Toronto would give us for Nash?
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Nada…They have calderon and lowry, both are better.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:05 am
KC was 5th in rushing yards/ game last season. Did they make the POs?
LOL
You people….
January 19th, 2013 at 9:06 am
Open your ears and eyes JFB, take it in first before spitting out retorts.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:06 am
2013 4-12
January 19th, 2013 at 9:06 am
“The Patriots, despite their status as huge favorites among the NFL betting public, are a money-making 12-5 against the spread this season.”
Hmmmmmmmmmmm.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:07 am
Well if there were still any pro mumbles and tits people left on this board this move should have sealed it for u guys I knew DA couldn’t bring any anyone worth a schit Greg freakin Olson wow this is pathetic can’t say I’m surprised one bit this new regime sucks ass mumbles, tits and Olsen will all be fired at seasons end thank god the only positive is atleast we r going back to power football never should have went to zone
January 19th, 2013 at 9:08 am
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 9:04 am
But you’re kidding yourself if you don’t think QB is the most important position.
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The ball is snapped to Tom Brady, the OL all stand aside and not block. What happens? OL is most important position, then QB.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:08 am
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 9:04 am
A great QB will give you a chance to win a SB even behind a mediocre line.
A mediocre QB is extremely unlikely to win a SB even with an excellent OLine.
The rare exceptions of less than stellar QB’s winning the SB have almost invariably come with the aid of a dominating defense. Not due to a dominating OLine.
Of course it’s important to have a strong O line.
But you’re kidding yourself if you don’t think QB is the most important position.
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Raiders will never win a playoff game with Palmer.
Raiders will never have a winning record under DA.
Raiders will never mean shid under Mckenzie.
2013 4-12 or 5-11 at best
January 19th, 2013 at 9:09 am
The ball is snapped to Tom Brady, the OL all stand aside and not block. What happens? OL is most important position, then QB.
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Big Ben and the steelers disagree.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:10 am
GG,
I am still waiting for the punch-line conspiracy theory from you on the Chip Kelly offense.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:10 am
You guys start ramping up the 2014 draft talk, we will be picking in the top ten, with 2 years left on DA’s contract.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:10 am
. . .So now Wiz could become the Raiders new OL coach?
This should speak volumes for the Raiders WR’s, DMAC &, most importantly, Terrell Pryor. . .
Now, onto the 40whiner front; with the goings on regarding Crabtree, the fact Pablo Sandoval was investigated for sexual assault prior to the Giants (my beloved Giants) World Series run has to bode well for the 40whiners; if Crabtree is found innocent or not enough evidence exists to charge him.
Of course the proximity to the NFC Championship Game & the Super Bowl kinda truncate the investigation time frame. . .this could drag out for some time. . .
January 19th, 2013 at 9:11 am
O
As I have said stats are meaningless when taken out of context. Especially league stats.
Brady passed for 266 yards AND LOST LAST YEARS Super Bowl.
The Pats got beat on the line of scrimmage and badly lost time of possession.
The old AFL was a “paasing” league compared with the NFL. League stats mean crap. Winners run and pass and play solid defense.
Always have always will.
You do that with strong lines.
Funny, I remember the story of a guy who drowned in a river whose average depeth was 2 feet.
Watch the line of scrimmage.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:11 am
Raider O Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 9:09 am
The ball is snapped to Tom Brady, the OL all stand aside and not block. What happens? OL is most important position, then QB.
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Big Ben and the steelers disagree.
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No seriously. The OL all stand aside and dont block at all. What happens? OL > QB.
In hypothetical contrast…The ball is snapped to a QB, the OL all block well for 10 secs, no one can get thru. What happens? QB can actually stand and deliver. OL > QB
January 19th, 2013 at 9:11 am
The ball is snapped to Tom Brady, the OL all stand aside and not block.
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Seriously?
What if the O-line all blocks and Tom Brady throws a Joe Webb one-hopper to a wide open WR?
Or maybe he just “Stand aside” too, lol.
Who do you think has more trade value, Tom Brady, or the Patriots entire O-line?
January 19th, 2013 at 9:14 am
Greg Olson? Very uninspiring.
2011 Bresnahan
2012 Knapp
2013 Olson
Where’s Tom Walsh when you need him
January 19th, 2013 at 9:14 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 9:10 am
GG,
I am still waiting for the punch-line conspiracy theory from you on the Chip Kelly offense.
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The punch-line is that you watched 30 secs of the video and quickly made a retort. Without genuinely taking in an explanation and demonstration of a complex scheme that not many analysts even know what’s going on. If you watched the first three videos especially, you would realize OL is important to Kelly’s scheme. And, beyond that, realize OL is always going to be important whether it’s 1923 1976 or 2013
January 19th, 2013 at 9:15 am
Hard to tell, but was Corkran writing this artical with sarcasm?
January 19th, 2013 at 9:17 am
The 2000 Ravens and 2002 Bucs had very average QB’s
Those teams had awesome lines which is why they won.
Funny, Dilfer and Johnson have the same number of rings as Peyton. Sure, it is all about passing.
Build the lines and the wins will follow.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:17 am
Yes you may all be right! in the fact that he may not be our guy or vise versa! from what I read he has not had full control in play calling throughout his OC stints as you know Rams job was pushed his way due to coach wanting to control game and not be play caller but then how much control in play calling did he have? was he ready? or not allowed to run what he wanted? Tampa one good year blame was placed all over the place Blunt as a RB is enough! Freeman third year after a year of success everybody knows you now? Jacsonville dumped the head coach they said we should go after! and we know what Detroit was! now that he is here he has to have learned from his past and any attempt at being a HC in his future has got to be after a successful OC job! He’s been a Asst. HC so his job here is to prove himself and what he believes in! This team has weapons that have been rendered useless under Knapp now it’s his turn! Norvall Turner probably has kids D.A.s Age lol!
January 19th, 2013 at 9:17 am
Another new toy to work with. Somebody should be happy that good old Reggie and Dennis made a move. Not a very convincing move but a move. Like I said, it is very easy to tear things down but to rebuild with the existing player personnel in mind is not easy. Reggie and DA are learning that first hand. They should have not been so stubborn and went with whatever worked best for the team. It took them a full year to figure out zone blocking was not the best fit for the team!!! The Raiders needed a new GM and HC to figure that out. Hang on, the Raiders are in for a bumpy ride.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:18 am
Tom Brady has had a different starting O-line in every Super Bowl he went too.
Yes, you can’t have a sieve at O-line to win a Super Bowl, just like you can’t win a Super Bowl with Cole Ford as your PK or Travis Goethel as your long-snapper.
But you can lose your LT midseason, like the Colts when they won, and still win the Bowl.
Lose your QB……and you are done.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:18 am
nwr8r Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 9:15 am
Hard to tell, but was Corkran writing this artical with sarcasm?
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Not at all. Cork has been a pro-reggie/allen shill since the new regime. His job is to p*ss on our backs and tell us it’s raining whenever Reggie/Allen make a decision about something. Example…he’ll slam Pryor when the org appears to be low on Pryor. Then rebound and pump up Pryor when the org appears to be patting Pryor on the back.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:19 am
This team has been, and will be fvcked for a while.
Prepare yourself for another season of NOT winning.
Top 10 pick in 2014
January 19th, 2013 at 9:19 am
2000 Ravens got rid of Dilfer and won ONE PLAYOFF GAME IN 7 YEARS until they got Flacco.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:19 am
I disagree that Norv would’ve wanted back to Oakland. He was fired as HC and was bitter about it.
Why would he wanna come back with his tail between his legs and take a lesser position years later if he didn’t have to?
The guy has SOME pride.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:20 am
Charlie,
We shouldn’t continue to argue about this issue. There is a difference between facts and opinions. That’s simple. I can support my argument with stats and facts, and you keep talking about watching games like we are not watching the game and only looking at stats!?!
It’s a passing league.
2 different teams won 4 SBs without investing a lot in their OLs.
It’s not 1976
Those are called facts, and arguing with facts is a waste of time brother.
You said sacks and hits allowed by OL is an irrelevant stat, and that makes me think you don’t know how to read/ analyze/ use stats, and that’s why you think they are irrelevant.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:20 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 9:19 am
2000 Ravens got rid of Dilfer and won ONE PLAYOFF GAME IN 7 YEARS until they got Flacco.
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Dude,
You are wasting your time.
I’m don’t debating this topic.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:21 am
Done*
January 19th, 2013 at 9:21 am
So since it is all about great O-line play, who was the great offseason addition to the O-lines of the Seahawks, Redskins and Colts that gave them such a huge leap in wins from one year to the next?
January 19th, 2013 at 9:22 am
when we go 4-12 2013-14, who will be “scape goated” ?
I cast my vote we blame Al Saunders
January 19th, 2013 at 9:22 am
I’m getting worried about this hire
January 19th, 2013 at 9:23 am
We have the WORST coaching staff in the AFC west.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:23 am
So, Greg Olson: Jax Jaguars. TB Bux. Rams. Lions… I guess he just needed to coach in Oak, now he has the 5 worst teams in the NFL on his resume.
Blah. Yawn. 4-12.
So, John Gruden on 2014?
January 19th, 2013 at 9:24 am
Well, need to do more research on Greg Olson but as long as he designs an offense suited to the players skills we should be better than last year.
On the other hand, this is the first time someone actually hired him as an Offensive Coordinator with complete control of the Offense, including play-calling.
In Detroit, 2005 he replaced Ted Tollner as OC for all of 5 games before getting fired with the rest of the Staff.
In Saint Louis, he was OC in 2006 but did not call the plays until the end of the year and I assume during the 2007 season which led to Scott Linehan firing him.
In Tampa Bay he was hired as QB Coach and then replaced Jeff Jagodzinsky before the start of the 2009 season and stayed for 3 years leading an Offense that finished 30th, 20th and 27th in YPG and 28th, 19th and 21st in PPG.
Not exactly an impressive resume, but to his “credit” the 2010 Bucs Offense with Rookies Josh Freeman, Legarrete Blount and Mike Williams that finished 20th in yards and 19th in points with a 10-6 record has to be considered a success, then again the 2011 version sucked.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:25 am
JFB
Colts had good OL depth to cover it.
How did the Bears go with the above average Cutler but a terrible OL? Especially in that 7 step vertical offense.
I didnt say QB isnt important. But Brady has played a number of terrible games that were terrible ALL BECAUSE the OL protection broke down badly. He looked just like Andrew Walter did in those games. Remember the game Peyton Manning had versus Falcons a few years ago? He was sacked and intercepted about 4-6 times in the first half with the OL protection being at an all-time low. He looked just like Andrew Walter.
As i said before….the keyword is “predicated”. OL > QB. Once you have a very good OL THEN it’s about finding a great QB to take you far, to make the most of that protection, tear defenses apart with great pre-snap reads, hot-routing, clutch throws, and leadership.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:26 am
After reading post 613, we may wind up with the top pick in the draft 2014….
Clowney would look good in silver and black.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:26 am
Raiders will never win a playoff game with Palmer.
Raiders will never have a winning record under DA.
Raiders will never mean shid under Mckenzie.
2013 4-12 or 5-11 at best
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Can’t say I disagree with any of these assessments.
Especially the first one.
Don’t see the RAIDS making any noise in 2013, and I’m almost 100% certain CP isn’t on the roster come 2014.
Less certain about Smiling Titty Boy. STB seems like a loser for sure, but the fact that he knew enough to can that POS KRAPP, gives me a slight glimmer of hope.
Reggie seems like a dunce too, but there’s still the possibility he might draft well enough to save his onions.
Definitely not a rosy outlook though.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:26 am
Crazy that the 2011 Donkeys HC/OC/DC now makes up 3/4 of the AFC West HC’s.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:26 am
GG Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:41 am
I’m really p’ssed off with the title “seasoned and well-regarded”…shill. Blowing smoke up our azzes like we dont know who Olson is.
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Yeah, that title by Cork pisses me off as well. What a joke!
January 19th, 2013 at 9:26 am
Lol! 10 and THEN in Full Effect!!!
Baby steps. Maybe 1 more victory next year? FMFL!!!!
January 19th, 2013 at 9:27 am
RAIDERMAN99, how have you been man? Hope all is well.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:28 am
Where are all the blind DA lovers now?? haha
With the 1st pick in the 2014 NFL Draft the Oakland Raiders select…..JADEVEON CLOWNEY, DE, SOUTH CAROLINA!
January 19th, 2013 at 9:28 am
We have the worst coaching staff in the AFC
January 19th, 2013 at 9:29 am
Thec Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 9:23 am
We have the WORST coaching staff in the AFC west.
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No doubt about it. Not even close.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:29 am
How did the Bears go with the above average Cutler but a terrible OL? Especially in that 7 step vertical offense.
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Well, they were in the NFC Championship game 2 years ago, one score from going to the Super Bowl.
10-6 last year, got the bad end of the tiebreakers and missed the playoffs.
And that is with a historically bad O-line.
I don’t think more than one guy from the Bears O-line would start for us.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:29 am
How old is Olsen? If he’s really young , can we put his past failures on his inexperiences?
January 19th, 2013 at 9:31 am
DKnight007 Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 9:28 am
Where are all the blind DA lovers now?? haha
With the 1st pick in the 2014 NFL Draft the Oakland Raiders select…..JADEVEON CLOWNEY, DE, SOUTH CAROLINA!
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They’re dropping off little by little. I see the eternal optimist Mcf20 is even worried.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:31 am
The team should replace their helmets with soccer balls since the AFC West, along with the rest of the league, will be kicking them around for the foreseeable future.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:31 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 9:22 am
I’m getting worried about this hire
^^^^^^^^
You’re barely getting worried now?
Should have been worried Hue was let go and DA was hired and then DA hired Knapp as OC.
Now it looks like DA hired a coach that won’t threaten him and who looks to be the power blocking scheme version of Knapp.
Olsens resume reeks of mediocrity.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:32 am
Since we are on the ten and then run, we need to plan our draft to cover the next 2 years of suckage.
Draft and fill what holes you can however, do not draft someone that plays Clowney’s position.
Plan on drafting Clowney at 1 2014.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:33 am
Bob Marley Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 9:24 am
Well, need to do more research on Greg Olson but as long as he designs an offense suited to the players skills we should be better than last year.
On the other hand, this is the first time someone actually hired him as an Offensive Coordinator with complete control of the Offense, including play-calling.
In Detroit, 2005 he replaced Ted Tollner as OC for all of 5 games before getting fired with the rest of the Staff.
In Saint Louis, he was OC in 2006 but did not call the plays until the end of the year and I assume during the 2007 season which led to Scott Linehan firing him.
In Tampa Bay he was hired as QB Coach and then replaced Jeff Jagodzinsky before the start of the 2009 season and stayed for 3 years leading an Offense that finished 30th, 20th and 27th in YPG and 28th, 19th and 21st in PPG.
Not exactly an impressive resume, but to his “credit” the 2010 Bucs Offense with Rookies Josh Freeman, Legarrete Blount and Mike Williams that finished 20th in yards and 19th in points with a 10-6 record has to be considered a success, then again the 2011 version sucked.
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Okay you made me feel a lit better lol
January 19th, 2013 at 9:34 am
The Big Banana Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 9:26 am
Lol! 10 and THEN in Full Effect!!!
Baby steps. Maybe 1 more victory next year? FMFL!!!!
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Other teams can go 2-14, fire everyone, and make the playoffs….We have to wait, like knapp said be patient
January 19th, 2013 at 9:34 am
How is our staff worse than the Chargers, Thec?
John Fox prior to Manning arriving is better than our staff? There best coach prior to Manning arriving is our HC.
Andy Reid is going to be terrible in KC. Has worse qBs than Vick.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:34 am
I would have preferred Martz, but we haven’t made the playoffs in 10 years, nobody is lining up to come be our OC.
Quality OC’s evade us like the plague.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:35 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/19/moore-joeckel-mingo-jones-among-top-nfl-draft-early-entries/
January 19th, 2013 at 9:35 am
Thec Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 9:32 am
Since we are on the ten and then run, we need to plan our draft to cover the next 2 years of suckage.
Draft and fill what holes you can however, do not draft someone that plays Clowney’s position.
Plan on drafting Clowney at 1 2014.
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Exactly. Chubby Checker McK needs to do whatever he can to trade down and get more picks. Heck, it would even be nice if he could acquire some picks in the 2014 draft as well.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:35 am
and full list here….
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/19/nfl-draft-early-entries/
January 19th, 2013 at 9:35 am
I have to say it, Cork is a b!tch for writing this fluff piece on Olson. We all watch football and know who the hell he is. Trying to spin it as if Olson is well respected and such a hot commodity. I guess thats why no one else gave him a sniff. Well, glad to know I dont have to wast any emotion on this season. Dennis, Olson, and Tarver will all be gone after this year, book it.
Not worst coaching staff in the AFC West, we have the worst coaching staff in the NFL, and its not even close.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:36 am
Is it too early to start the JON GRUDEN for 2014 campaign?
January 19th, 2013 at 9:36 am
I am a firm beliver of fixing the trench as number 1 priority however, with this current org and the amount of holes we have I would say draft the best player on the board no matter what position.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:37 am
DKnight007 Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 9:31 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 9:22 am
I’m getting worried about this hire
^^^^^^^^
You’re barely getting worried now?
Should have been worried Hue was let go and DA was hired and then DA hired Knapp as OC.
Now it looks like DA hired a coach that won’t threaten him and who looks to be the power blocking scheme version of Knapp.
Olsens resume reeks of mediocrity.
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Agree with knapp hiring , it was bad , but I don’t understand the rationale about how he’s hiring people who won’t threaten him , so is he hiring guys who will be success or failures? If they are successful , wouldn’t that mean that teams record will b good and he will get more years on his contract , if he’s hiring failures wouldn’t that lead us to a bad record and he will e out the door , so please explain why is he hiring yes man?
January 19th, 2013 at 9:38 am
2 consecutive downgrades to Hue Jackson at OC. Fine, fine hires Reggie and DA.
100% convinced the fans could do a better job than these clowns.
2013 is done.
Take back the Raiders, 2014.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:38 am
Our staff is easily worse than SD, J. They got some good offensive guys and KEPT the defensive staff in place that was doing such a good job there. 11th ranked defense. Not even close.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:38 am
The Big Banana Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 9:36 am
Is it too early to start the JON GRUDEN for 2014 campaign?
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Eff no. I’m starting my down for the clown campaign.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:39 am
wtf!you have got to be kidding me.well its official nation we will never be good again big reg needs to go his decision making is terrible
January 19th, 2013 at 9:40 am
DA will only be threatened by the record and not by his assistans , why do you guys always have to say something , even if it sounds stupid ? Lol
January 19th, 2013 at 9:40 am
I would have preferred Martz, but we haven’t made the playoffs in 10 years, nobody is lining up to come be our OC.
Quality OC’s evade us like the plague.
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Martz interviewed man!
What are you talking about????
January 19th, 2013 at 9:40 am
Gotta hope Joekel slips to McK at #3.
Then he will probably end up receiving plenty of phone calls from some teams looking to move up to draft him. That will be the primary opportunity to trade down and get more picks.
I’m starting to think drafting Joekel may also be the way to go or trade down and get the power blocking Warmack.
Too many evenly rated pass rushing DE/OLB’s to take one at #3. Some can still be had 6-7 picks later potentially.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:40 am
Would have been better to hire Martz ahead of this guy Olsen.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:41 am
there has to be something we can do like denver fans did with the billboard.make it read
“reg resign”
January 19th, 2013 at 9:41 am
I’m doing good The c.
Better than the RAIDS at least.
There’s still signs of life in this old dog.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:41 am
now if we can get a #1 receiver and a Rt n maybe ac and maybe upgrade at TE I might start feeling better
January 19th, 2013 at 9:42 am
mcfadden20. Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 9:37 am
DKnight007 Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 9:31 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 9:22 am
I’m getting worried about this hire
^^^^^^^^
You’re barely getting worried now?
Should have been worried Hue was let go and DA was hired and then DA hired Knapp as OC.
Now it looks like DA hired a coach that won’t threaten him and who looks to be the power blocking scheme version of Knapp.
Olsens resume reeks of mediocrity.
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Agree with knapp hiring , it was bad , but I don’t understand the rationale about how he’s hiring people who won’t threaten him , so is he hiring guys who will be success or failures? If they are successful , wouldn’t that mean that teams record will b good and he will get more years on his contract , if he’s hiring failures wouldn’t that lead us to a bad record and he will e out the door , so please explain why is he hiring yes man?
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He hired greg knapp 2012 didnt he?
Did he want to win or not?
Everyone knew but him, and he quickly hired him the day after being hired himself.
Why did he hire Olson?
Olson is a coach very similar to knapp…someone who bounces around the nfl as a Qb coach and failed OC.
Does he want to win or not?
Everyone knows but him that Olson is an uninspiring hire. And contrary to shills, Olson was ear-marked early, they just didnt want to announce it so soon when so many better candidates were available. They sat idle for so long, two weeks. Because they had their guy pegged.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:42 am
Lol, O.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:42 am
John David Booty Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 9:38 am
2 consecutive downgrades to Hue Jackson at OC. Fine, fine hires Reggie and DA.
100% convinced the fans could do a better job than these clowns.
2013 is done.
Take back the Raiders, 2014.
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Exactly!
January 19th, 2013 at 9:42 am
Hill Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 9:34 am
How is our staff worse than the Chargers, Thec?
John Fox prior to Manning arriving is better than our staff? There best coach prior to Manning arriving is our HC.
Andy Reid is going to be terrible in KC. Has worse qBs than Vick.
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The disc used some their brains…They did not go the “my guy” route with respect to coaches. They kept norv’s D coach Pagano and staff INTACT.
That is the one guy I hoped they would have ran because he is a damn good coach, and will be a HC soon.
they did this after hiring a new GM and HC.
Whisenhunt > olsen as a OCO.
SD > OAK in the coaching dept.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:42 am
I am so fn pissed right now tired of thinking it gets better only to be let down.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:44 am
GG Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 9:42 am
mcfadden20. Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 9:37 am
DKnight007 Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 9:31 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 9:22 am
I’m getting worried about this hire
^^^^^^^^
You’re barely getting worried now?
Should have been worried Hue was let go and DA was hired and then DA hired Knapp as OC.
Now it looks like DA hired a coach that won’t threaten him and who looks to be the power blocking scheme version of Knapp.
Olsens resume reeks of mediocrity.
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Agree with knapp hiring , it was bad , but I don’t understand the rationale about how he’s hiring people who won’t threaten him , so is he hiring guys who will be success or failures? If they are successful , wouldn’t that mean that teams record will b good and he will get more years on his contract , if he’s hiring failures wouldn’t that lead us to a bad record and he will e out the door , so please explain why is he hiring yes man?
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He hired greg knapp 2012 didnt he?
Did he want to win or not?
Everyone knew but him, and he quickly hired him the day after being hired himself.
Why did he hire Olson?
Olson is a coach very similar to knapp…someone who bounces around the nfl as a Qb coach and failed OC.
Does he want to win or not?
Everyone knows but him that Olson is an uninspiring hire. And contrary to shills, Olson was ear-marked early, they just didnt want to announce it so soon when so many better candidates were available. They sat idle for so long, two weeks. Because they had their guy pegged.
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Yep. Chitty…all the way around.
How can McK and DA insult our intelligence like this as fans?
I mean if the idiots want to rebuild, then just trade DMC and CP and get as much as they can in picks.
That’s what chubby values anyway…picks and he wants to build for the “long term”.
Might as well trade D Moore also and get a 3rd or 4th Rounder.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:44 am
How is Denver’s OC hire any better than us hiring their DC last year?
The OC was responsible for the offense, not Manning? What has this guy done?
Wisenhunt hasn’t led a decent offense in years.
Can we see who we bring on as STs coach and OL coach before we declare a winner?
I’m rewatching the SD game now. Our offense looked pretty good against their defensive staff with 6 at QB and Krapp calling plays.
SD = garbage.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:45 am
Raiders wil be good in 2021
January 19th, 2013 at 9:45 am
Im getting T-shirts made reading
“BRING TOM WALSH BACK”
January 19th, 2013 at 9:45 am
looks like crabtree got some BOOTY after the GB game! too bad it wasn’t consensual!! and it was in SF, might have been a tranny too!!! nothin finer than a fruity niner!!!
January 19th, 2013 at 9:46 am
In saying all that…I’ll still give Olson an objective chance before evaluating his OC’ing in Oakland. I’m judging Olson’s hire based on Olson’s track record. As a hire, it was terrible given the candidates available in the NFL/College. As an OC here in 2013, he may do well, he may not. Wait and see. But the criticism of the hire is legitimate AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:46 am
They kept norv’s D coach Pagano and staff INTACT.
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That’s great for us.
They couldn’t stop Pryor and Krapp, lol.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:46 am
On the positive side , he can’t be worse than Knapp, atleast the team hired a PBS guy McFadden likes , McFadden will probably finally stay healthy full year because its his contract year , so he has to be on beast mode to get a last big contract next year, we could probably lure someone like D Bowe to come here and help Palmer, maybe Wiz slides to lG and we upgrade at Rg and Rt
January 19th, 2013 at 9:46 am
C and RT
January 19th, 2013 at 9:47 am
seriously who wants one we need these in oak town maybe reg will run into someone wearing it
January 19th, 2013 at 9:48 am
GG Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 9:46 am
In saying all that…I’ll still give Olson an objective chance before evaluating his OC’ing in Oakland. I’m judging Olson’s hire based on Olson’s track record. As a hire, it was terrible given the candidates available in the NFL/College. As an OC here in 2013, he may do well, he may not. Wait and see. But the criticism of the hire is legitimate AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
>. from the video i saw Olson seems like a cool dude, too bad being cool doesn’t mean that your’e GOOD. we’ll see i hope he does well.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:48 am
SD = garbage.
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Pagano had then playing good D, and they have some talent on the D side.
Offense they need a QB, RB, WR, and a completely new OL
January 19th, 2013 at 9:49 am
I just cancelled MY SEASON TICKETS after 15 years.
FIRE REGGIE NOW.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:49 am
Olson will be an upgrade over Knapp about as much as Tarver was an upgrade over Bresnehan. Make no mistake, they f#cked Raiders fans big time with this hire. Reggie’s no GM. Hes a c-class scout, who worked circuits long enough to get a promotion. DA is no head coach, hes a NCAA assistant coach, who was dumped off on us by Denver and instantly replaced with an upgrade. Lets just hope that we get as good a replacement for DA as Denver did (Del Rio).
Raiders never sunk this low under Al. All my life as a Raiders fan, this is the most hopeless its ever been going into a season.
Long live Al. Reggie is a scrub, Dennis is a girl, intimidated by better coaches than himself.
It is what it is, they screwed us.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:50 am
J Hill Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 9:46 am
They kept norv’s D coach Pagano and staff INTACT.
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That’s great for us.
They couldn’t stop Pryor and Krapp, lol.
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that would be true if Pryor were going to play.
Had palmer played that game, he would have been hit like the jest QB was…11 sacks
January 19th, 2013 at 9:50 am
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 9:49 am
I just cancelled MY SEASON TICKETS after 15 years.
FIRE REGGIE NOW.
start a petition
January 19th, 2013 at 9:50 am
But why would DA hire yes man cuz they won’t challenge for his job, his jobs only going to depend on this record not who’s his assistants are , No?
January 19th, 2013 at 9:51 am
mcfadden20. Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 9:46 am
On the positive side , he can’t be worse than Knapp, atleast the team hired a PBS guy McFadden likes , McFadden will probably finally stay healthy full year because its his contract year , so he has to be on beast mode to get a last big contract next year, we could probably lure someone like D Bowe to come here and help Palmer, maybe Wiz slides to lG and we upgrade at Rg and Rt
>> McFadden stays healthy on Madden when i turn injuries off, thats about it. McFadden should carry the ball 10 times per game and only on outside runs,sweeps,delays.counters. and should be a passing target as well. never use him to run in the middle. and when Mcfadden see defenders he should slide to avoid the hit. thats his best chance of starting 16 games.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:51 am
Is Huff coming back next year?
Carter???
January 19th, 2013 at 9:51 am
John David Booty Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 9:49 am
Olson will be an upgrade over Knapp about as much as Tarver was an upgrade over Bresnehan. Make no mistake, they f#cked Raiders fans big time with this hire. Reggie’s no GM. Hes a c-class scout, who worked circuits long enough to get a promotion. DA is no head coach, hes a NCAA assistant coach, who was dumped off on us by Denver and instantly replaced with an upgrade. Lets just hope that we get as good a replacement for DA as Denver did (Del Rio).
Raiders never sunk this low under Al. All my life as a Raiders fan, this is the most hopeless its ever been going into a season.
Long live Al. Reggie is a scrub, Dennis is a girl, intimidated by better coaches than himself.
It is what it is, they screwed us.
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Extremely well-worded post. Wise words.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:51 am
FIRE REGGIE NOW DAMNIT!
January 19th, 2013 at 9:52 am
Wonder if Hanson and Mitchell will be here next year?
January 19th, 2013 at 9:52 am
FIRE REGGIE NOW.
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How long is his contract? We should have rolled him after the season.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:52 am
No one running an organization is this dumb. I cant buy it. Tanking HAS to be the plan. No other logical or reasonable explanation for the garbage we are being given. The Raiders are tanking for #1, poor attendance, and a move from Oakland. In any order you want to put that. These are not men that are trying to improve a football team. No way, cant be.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:53 am
Definetly need need to pick warmack now
January 19th, 2013 at 9:53 am
raiders are fvcked until 2021 get over it.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:54 am
here is the question: would Olson have been hired as OC anywhere else?
January 19th, 2013 at 9:55 am
What org hires a coaching staff that runs schema’s opposite of what personal they have????
January 19th, 2013 at 9:55 am
Raiders can upgrade the OLINE and find a bowling ball RB and just run the ball. might be able to beat up on the bad teams.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:55 am
He hired greg knapp 2012 didnt he?
Did he want to win or not?
Everyone knew but him, and he quickly hired him the day after being hired himself.
Why did he hire Olson?
Olson is a coach very similar to knapp…someone who bounces around the nfl as a Qb coach and failed OC.
Does he want to win or not?
Everyone knows but him that Olson is an uninspiring hire. And contrary to shills, Olson was ear-marked early, they just didnt want to announce it so soon when so many better candidates were available. They sat idle for so long, two weeks. Because they had their guy pegged.
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Yep. Chitty…all the way around.
How can McK and DA insult our intelligence like this as fans?
I mean if the idiots want to rebuild, then just trade DMC and CP and get as much as they can in picks.
That’s what chubby values anyway…picks and he wants to build for the “long term”.
Might as well trade D Moore also and get a 3rd or 4th Rounder. Sheesh.
So many better OC candidates than Olsen out there and DA still ends up hiring this guy?
Terrible…..just terrible.
Whoever still has season tickets, do yourselves a favor and don’t renew. It’s not worth it.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:55 am
Fixing the trenches is the recipe for immediate respectability and sustained success.
But sooner or later this team is gonna have to secure a franchise QB if it wants to put a 4th Lombardi in the trophy case.
There simply isn’t a more important ingredient.
It’s all about winning the final game of the playoffs.
Since I don’t see that franchise QB in this year’s draft, I have no problem with BPA at ANY position.
We need help everywhere.
2014 ? Clowney might be the prize.
But it also could be ’suck like hell for Manziel’ time.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:55 am
O
I continue to point out facts that you continue to ignore.
Drafting OL is huge, especially Offensive Tackles.
2012 Playoff teams.
24 starting Offensive Tackles, 16 were either a 1st or 2nd round pick.
Every team but GB has at least 1 starting OT drafted in the 1st round.
Indy: Castonzo, 1st.
Cincy: Whitworth, Smith, 2nd and 1st.
Bal: McKinnie, Oher, 1st and 1st.
Hou: Brown, 1st.
NE: Solder, Vollmer, 1st and 2nd.
Den: Clady, Franklin, 1st and 2nd.
Minn: Kalil, Loadholt, 1st and 2nd.
Was: Williams, 1st.
Sea: Okung, 1st.
Atl: Baker, 1st.
SF: Staley, Davis, 1st and 1st.
1956 1976 1996 2012.
FOOTBALL IS FOOTBALL.
Win on the line of scrimmage and you will consistently in the playoffs.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:56 am
Man this blog is depressing, what is the point o being in here if you’re only going to b1txh and moan all the times , I’m pretty sure there is atleast one troll in here right now, other are just Raiders fans so used to losing that they can’t see the silver lining, but man if this gets you so depressed , you gotta do something about your life, there has to be some positives to this hire , how about groom Freeman , didn’t he had like 20+ TDs n under 10 ints in his rookie year ? Or Jackson having his best year when he was on the stl staff, or how this hire was to help McFadden get back to 11 form
January 19th, 2013 at 9:56 am
How long is his contract? We should have rolled him after the season.
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I cannot find an answer to this ?
January 19th, 2013 at 9:56 am
So does classic Wiz come back?
January 19th, 2013 at 9:56 am
Definetly need need to pick warmack now
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Rewatching the SD game. Bergstrom looks pretty solid.
Warmack would solidify this group, no question.
I’m leaning towards him or Millner.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:56 am
Mistic666 Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 9:54 am
here is the question: would Olson have been hired as OC anywhere else?
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Heck no!
January 19th, 2013 at 9:57 am
So does classic Wiz come back?
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I was wondering the same thing.
DA might not want a guy back who quit on him though.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:57 am
J Hill Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 9:56 am
Definetly need need to pick warmack now
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Rewatching the SD game. Bergstrom looks pretty solid.
Warmack would solidify this group, no question.
I’m leaning towards him or Millner.
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No to Millner as the 1st pick. Need Warmack or a pass rusher.
McK needs to trade down regardless.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:58 am
J Hill Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 9:57 am
So does classic Wiz come back?
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I was wondering the same thing.
DA might not want a guy back who quit on him though.
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More like Wiz won’t come back and work for a HC who doesn’t know what the heck he is doing.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:58 am
JFB u still spewing that garbage about olines not being important, you have been watching football this long and still have much to learn and btw Tom Brady has always had a qaulity oline.
January 19th, 2013 at 9:58 am
DA might not want a guy back who quit on him though.
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fvck da…Classic is good for the org
January 19th, 2013 at 9:59 am
DKnight007 Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 9:56 am
Mistic666 Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 9:54 am
here is the question: would Olson have been hired as OC anywhere else?
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Heck no!
>. would he have even been CONSIDERED for a job as an OC? if not just pluck some young gun from somewhere. take an unknown and see what he can do. better than picking a retread nobody wanted. oh well hopefully Olson proves me wrong. better come up with a run game
January 19th, 2013 at 9:59 am
Clowney and Gruden for 2014 fire the clown staff and mumbles
January 19th, 2013 at 9:59 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 9:56 am
Man this blog is depressing, what is the point o being in here if you’re only going to b1txh and moan all the times , I’m pretty sure there is atleast one troll in here right now, other are just Raiders fans so used to losing that they can’t see the silver lining, but man if this gets you so depressed , you gotta do something about your life, there has to be some positives to this hire , how about groom Freeman , didn’t he had like 20+ TDs n under 10 ints in his rookie year ? Or Jackson having his best year when he was on the stl staff, or how this hire was to help McFadden get back to 11 form
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Being a chitty team sucks doesn’t it bro?
It’s frustrating to see how it all collapsed and all the mistakes that could have been avoided.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:00 am
I’d say do not renew your season tickects but it seems as if thats exactly what they want you to do. I do belive this garbage staff is being put together with moving out of oakland in mind.reggie you suck and in all the years of my life I’ve bled silver and black.my passion is no longer with the raiders thank you very much reggie you suck
January 19th, 2013 at 10:00 am
mcfadden20. Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 9:50 am
But why would DA hire yes man cuz they won’t challenge for his job, his jobs only going to depend on this record not who’s his assistants are , No?
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DA wants authority, he craves it, mad with power like Reggie. Didn’t Al shoot himself in the foot towards his latter years by strangling power to the point that good coaches didnt want to come here, and he didn’t want defensive-minded coaches that wanted control of the defense, he wanted yes-men that ran his scheme. How did that go for Al?
If the offense is doing well, but as a HC he still sucks, and his defense that he controls doing poorly, he’ll be the scapegoat, not the OC. If there’s no bright light co-ordinator, just a group of mediocre guys like himself, then his short-comings arent as exposed, he can blame the OC, someone who’s running the entire offense without Allen who’s more focused on the D-side.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:01 am
Draft:
DE/ OLB D Moore
OLB J Jones
Or CB D Milliner
I’m not sold on star
Geno Smith is not a top 5 pick IMO, but some team will reach for him
Te’o is another Maualuga and McClain (2 down LB)
January 19th, 2013 at 10:01 am
Idk there has to be silver lining sumwhere , I will just wait n see , I don’t want to be depressed reading about comments in here about this hiring , I guess I’ll just wait n see like Knapp, I might go 0 fer 2 or he may finally surprise us , well only draft to look forward to hopefully we can have some decent draft so posters in here can start claiming Super Bowl , then I will come back to post again lol , until then adios to all the real Raiders fans
January 19th, 2013 at 10:02 am
You guy’s remember the vicious hit DMO took from the alabama S a few years ago…That was millner that laid him out.
DMO did man up and return to the game. Not saying we take him however, he does know DMO
January 19th, 2013 at 10:02 am
So we are going with a vertical passing tack and a power running attack. No excuses folks. Don’t try and set up the new OC for the players shortcomings, lol.
DMac better run for 1500 yds!
Our WRs better return to glory.
Palmer can sling it now.
Playoff offense, right???
January 19th, 2013 at 10:04 am
Playoff offense, right???
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In a dream sequence….2021 in when the Raids make the tournament
January 19th, 2013 at 10:05 am
Eastoaklandraider Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 9:53 am
Definetly need need to pick warmack now
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Yep. I’m starting to buy into that as well.
McK can trade down 6-10 spots and still get him and get an extra 2nd or 3rd rounder. If McK is offered a 3rd in this years draft and a 2nd in the 2014 draft from a team looking to trade up to #3. He should take it.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:05 am
J Hill Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 10:02 am
So we are going with a vertical passing tack and a power running attack. No excuses folks. Don’t try and set up the new OC for the players shortcomings, lol.
DMac better run for 1500 yds!
Our WRs better return to glory.
Palmer can sling it now.
Playoff offense, right???
>. at least we’ll be going to back to the best offensive scheme ever devised.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:05 am
mcskinnnylegs Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 10:00 am
I’d say do not renew your season tickects but it seems as if thats exactly what they want you to do. I do belive this garbage staff is being put together with moving out of oakland in mind.reggie you suck and in all the years of my life I’ve bled silver and black.my passion is no longer with the raiders thank you very much reggie you suck
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The alternative theory could be this. Tanking to LA.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:05 am
A DT RUSHES THE PASSER AS WELL.
DE sacks is only one measure of an effective pass rush.
Face pressure is huge and you have to stop the run.
JFB
Look at what the Colts, Seahawks and Redskins focused on in the draft for the lsat 4 years with their HIGH DRAFT PICKS.In the box talent. Then they got their QB’s.
Even with Carrol and Shanahan they both took three years to rebuild.
In the box talent. Then they got their QB’s.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:05 am
Saying allen is a D coach is no excuse on how the O performed. they whole debacle was on his watch, just like the bresh debacle was on Hues watch.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:06 am
The Broncos hired Knapp. Hehe. Hopefully he can do as well with them as he did with us.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:06 am
Glad to see 007 has come to his senses and stop mentioning T’eo
January 19th, 2013 at 10:07 am
Every coach prefers SD to Oak for numerous reasons.
I already stated we’re still 2 years away from bringing in quality coaches to this unprofessional environment left by Mr. Davis
January 19th, 2013 at 10:07 am
“Greg is a proven, experienced coach with a very impressive background working with quarterbacks,” Broncos coach John Fox said in a statement. “He’s had success with Pro Bowlers and established players while also being instrumental in the development of younger quarterbacks. I’ve coached against him for a number of years and have a lot of respect for him. We are pleased to add someone of his caliber to our coaching staff.”
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thoughts?
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we knew knapp would get another job….it just wanst going to be OC……so he’s at a spot where he can do the least amount of damage…..qb coach to manning…..i think that means getting peyton the squirt bottle when he’s thirsty
January 19th, 2013 at 10:08 am
Thec Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 10:05 am
Saying allen is a D coach is no excuse on how the O performed. they whole debacle was on his watch, just like the bresh debacle was on Hues watch.
>> Allen has 1 more year to show his skills otherwise he’ll be a linebackers coach for the rest of his life. Hue already washed out and can’t even get interviewed for OC jobs. both might end up as washouts coaching fantasy football teams only like me
January 19th, 2013 at 10:08 am
O hip hip hoooray
O hip hip hoooray
DA has gone off to save the day
And yes men are here to stay
O, it is so a hip hip hoooray day
I don’t know if I can play
I’ll have to go and find some v-jay-jay
while the yes men are here to stay
O hip hip hooooooooray
Tom Cable made for a happy face day
And if HueJax were allowed to stay
Tomorrow you know we would play
DA and Big Mac Reg deserve a raise in pay
O hip hip and a hip hoooray
O suck me my sack and my balls
Somebody is doin a circle jerk in Raider halls
January 19th, 2013 at 10:08 am
No to Millner as the 1st pick.
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You like Adams and Chekwa starting?
I’m kinda feeling that too, but your 3rd corner is basically a starter.
I think we should sign a FA OLB/DE and bring Carter back.
I like Millner and Warmack. Fit needs and are the best players at their positions.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:09 am
Btw…im still predicting eagles and raiders swap foles and pryor in a trade. That wouldn’t be so bad. Reggie/Allen believe in drop back passing, Foles is that.
That way we dont have to blow a high pick on some QB to develop. Can invest picks on areas of need. And can even trade Palmer and draft a late round to develop behind Foles, or sign some cheap vet QB as back-up.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:09 am
Only is sports can you consistently be run out of town for poor performance, only to be hired again immediately.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:09 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 9:56 am
Man this blog is depressing, what is the point o being in here if you’re only going to b1txh and moan all the times , I’m pretty sure there is atleast one troll in here right now, other are just Raiders fans so used to losing that they can’t see the silver lining, but man if this gets you so depressed , you gotta do something about your life, there has to be some positives to this hire , how about groom Freeman , didn’t he had like 20+ TDs n under 10 ints in his rookie year ? Or Jackson having his best year when he was on the stl staff, or how this hire was to help McFadden get back to 11 form
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Tell me about it. Anyway, if you want to take a look at some other potential FAs and where they’d play on your depth chart – look at ourlads
this gives you a template, and you can mix and match FAs and look at draft picks and figure where they could fit on a roster. (free agents are in red)
http://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/depthcharts.aspx
January 19th, 2013 at 10:09 am
I think we see now why gruden said he wasnt coaching this year…..he will wait until the debacale in oakland finishes this year and get a HC/GM position in oakland when reggie and DA arses are kicked out at the end of the season
January 19th, 2013 at 10:11 am
Tanking to LA.
FIRE REGGIE NOW.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:11 am
GG Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 10:09 am
Btw…im still predicting eagles and raiders swap foles and pryor in a trade. That wouldn’t be so bad. Reggie/Allen believe in drop back passing, Foles is that.
That way we dont have to blow a high pick on some QB to develop. Can invest picks on areas of need. And can even trade Palmer and draft a late round to develop behind Foles, or sign some cheap vet QB as back-up.
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Interesting. Kelly could do something with Pryor and Vick has enough left in the tank. Now if Foles could find his potential under Greg Olson…it may have been worth the hire.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:11 am
broncos hired KRAP as QB coach? wtf would his job be? getting manning gatorade? power bars? easiest damn job in the world.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:12 am
alex7 Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 10:07 am
Every coach prefers SD to Oak for numerous reasons.
I already stated we’re still 2 years away from bringing in quality coaches to this unprofessional environment left by Mr. Davis
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Really dude? Is that the best you got? This unprofessional environment had us banging on the door at 8-8 if it weren’t for a knappesque like DC we had. Using that what Mr Davis left a mess routine only serves to enhance Big Mac Reg’s and Allens’ impotency. They are a no sack duo with a puppet master without strings.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:13 am
Charlie. Colts had similar roster that went 2-14 except they added luck.
Redskins had similar 4-12 roster this year except they added RGIII, Morris, and Garcon. Skill positions turn teams around, not Orakpo
January 19th, 2013 at 10:13 am
does the 2015 draft project a franchise QB?
January 19th, 2013 at 10:15 am
No to Millner FOCUS ON LINES period.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:15 am
Don’t forget McKenzie thinks pretty highly of our Dline.
Star won’t be the pick.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:16 am
rams 2008
The most notable change in the coaching staff was the addition of Al Saunders as offensive coordinator. At the time, the move excited us all, pointing to better things ahead after the bland offenses of Linehan and former OC Greg Olsen.
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get ready to take your wallets out to go see ………..BLAND
January 19th, 2013 at 10:16 am
let me explain why Olson was hired. same reason as DA, Knapp & Tarver: he is dirt cheap, will work for peanuts.
he has worked for the cheapest teams in the league.
his achievement was calling plays for a 20+ ranked offense…. you get what you pay for.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:16 am
Better yet, does the 2015 draft have a “transcendent Qb” ?
January 19th, 2013 at 10:16 am
RaiderSam Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 10:11 am
GG Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 10:09 am
Btw…im still predicting eagles and raiders swap foles and pryor in a trade. That wouldn’t be so bad. Reggie/Allen believe in drop back passing, Foles is that.
That way we dont have to blow a high pick on some QB to develop. Can invest picks on areas of need. And can even trade Palmer and draft a late round to develop behind Foles, or sign some cheap vet QB as back-up.
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Interesting. Kelly could do something with Pryor and Vick has enough left in the tank. Now if Foles could find his potential under Greg Olson…it may have been worth the hire.
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I like Pryor a lot, but this vertical passing offense of Olson might not suit Pryor. Would require a QB more renown for pocket passing, higher accuracy, and Foles can still scoot a la Rodgers.
If reggie was really into Pryor a la Kaepernick, he’d have considered hiring Ault from Nevada who was available. Or someone else from the college ranks who has run similar schemes.
Olson is like Knapp. They’re very scheme-orientated. Knapp WCO, Olson Coryell.
But you never either. If Kaepernick continues to wow and brings back a Lombardi, or even nearly does. Maybe Reggie might reconsider, and get Olson to learn and instal more zone option packages too. Be more multiple.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:16 am
Top hat.
You’re not banging the door when you are BLOWN OUT by the Steelers, 49ers, Giants, Saints, Patriots, Packers, and Dolphins.
You’re just winning some games in an easy AFC west with no Peyton manning.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:17 am
Don’t see how anyone was not impressed with Pryor’s 80 yd TD drive. The first of his career. Great decision making the whole drive.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:17 am
Trade TP to Philly for foles to develop under Palmer
January 19th, 2013 at 10:17 am
“There was only one time in Olson’s six seasons as an offensive coordinator he gave the ball to any running back more than 20 times per game. In his three seasons with the Buccaneers, the top back averaged right around 15 carries per game.”
Sounds like a recipe for success. Unbalanced offense, no run game, let Palmer throw 40 times a game.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:18 am
Christopher Hansen @ChrisHansenNFL
I don’t know if Olson will work out, but he will scheme around players he has.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:18 am
J Hill Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 10:15 am
Don’t forget McKenzie thinks pretty highly of our Dline.
Star won’t be the pick.
>> RM is High to think “highly” of the line.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:19 am
J Hill Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 10:17 am
Don’t see how anyone was not impressed with Pryor’s 80 yd TD drive. The first of his career. Great decision making the whole drive.
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What I thought was interesting was after halftime our first posession how he moved the ball.
We ALLWAYS had 3 and outs after the break first possesion.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:19 am
Can we hire Wylie & Wisniewski again and admit that they completely fvcked us over in 2012?!
January 19th, 2013 at 10:19 am
Top hat
Who’s the last legit free agent player or veteran coach that willingly signed with us?
Think about that.
Javon Walker?? Rob Ryan in 05?? This place was/is poison.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:20 am
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2013/1/19/3891080/what-position-should-the-raiders-target-in-the-first-round-of-2013
January 19th, 2013 at 10:20 am
They being DA & Reggie…
January 19th, 2013 at 10:20 am
jackasspuria Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 10:18 am
Christopher Hansen @ChrisHansenNFL
I don’t know if Olson will work out, but he will scheme around players he has.
>> thats exactly what an OC should do instead of being dogmatic and stuck on a scheme.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:20 am
John David Booty Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 9:49 am
Olson will be an upgrade over Knapp about as much as Tarver was an upgrade over Bresnehan. Make no mistake, they f#cked Raiders fans big time with this hire. Reggie’s no GM. Hes a c-class scout, who worked circuits long enough to get a promotion. DA is no head coach, hes a NCAA assistant coach, who was dumped off on us by Denver and instantly replaced with an upgrade. Lets just hope that we get as good a replacement for DA as Denver did (Del Rio).
Raiders never sunk this low under Al. All my life as a Raiders fan, this is the most hopeless its ever been going into a season.
Long live Al. Reggie is a scrub, Dennis is a girl, intimidated by better coaches than himself.
It is what it is, they screwed us.
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damn i hope you’re wrong. he did interview trestman and norv, maybe those guys didn’t want the job? Can olson be a better fit?
January 19th, 2013 at 10:21 am
Alex.
Incorrect.
In the box rebuilds are what restored the Seahawks, Redskins, and Colts.
Without that you have Detroit.
I agree that a good QB is important, but you must run and pass to be effective on offense and you must play defense.
You do that by building the line of scrimmage and linebackers.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:22 am
>> thats exactly what an OC should do instead of being dogmatic and stuck on a scheme.
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The Semi’s know this, you would think a paid “professional” would also…
January 19th, 2013 at 10:22 am
Don’t see how anyone was not impressed with Pryor’s 80 yd TD drive. The first of his career. Great decision making the whole drive.
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pryor ran the O pretty well……..BUT HE CANT THROW WITH ANY ACCURACY….could he get better….yes…but thats the #1 job of the QB……not running around on broken plays…..
January 19th, 2013 at 10:22 am
At least Raiders aren’t alone in tabbing “who is that candidates” as OCs.
Arizona and Jacksonville did the same thing earlier today.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:22 am
When shopping around for a coach, the Jax Jags are the equivalent of Dollar Tree. Reggie likes his coaching staff bargain priced…
January 19th, 2013 at 10:22 am
No way colorado. Same is true in business, politics, show business. Everywhere.
Incompetence is rampant. ..
January 19th, 2013 at 10:22 am
00tt00 Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 10:09 am
I think we see now why gruden said he wasnt coaching this year…..he will wait until the debacale in oakland finishes this year and get a HC/GM position in oakland when reggie and DA arses are kicked out at the end of the season
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It is setting up nicely for next year. High draft picks again and the return of Chucky.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:24 am
in LA
January 19th, 2013 at 10:24 am
Greg who?
January 19th, 2013 at 10:24 am
Lol booty
You want to give Dmac 20+ carries per game? Abusing your fragile RB’s season is not…smart.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:24 am
The Big Banana
Many are jumping on the Gruden conspiracy theories again with the hiring of Greg Olson.
The connection between Jon and Greg is Gruden hired Olson to coach his QBs in Tampa when he fired Paul Hackett.
The hiring came in Gruden’s last year at the helm of the Bucs.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:25 am
The Raiders cant afford Chuky… Dont you remember Al sold a part of the team a few years back just to make ends meet?
January 19th, 2013 at 10:25 am
alex7 Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 10:19 am
Top hat
Who’s the last legit free agent player or veteran coach that willingly signed with us?
Think about that.
Javon Walker?? Rob Ryan in 05?? This place was/is poison.
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It’s all good.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:26 am
Guys interview, or inquire about jobs they don’t want?
LMFAO
January 19th, 2013 at 10:26 am
I love this:
Oakland Raiders: Star Lotulelei, NT, Utah
Is there any doubt the Raiders need help at defensive tackle in the wake of Doug Martin’s near-record performance?
Richard Seymour’s contract will be voided at the end of the season. Meanwhile, Tommy Kelly is a bum who doesn’t care about winning, as evidenced when he laughed after prolonging a San Diego drive with a pair of offside penalties. He’s a thug who has played so sluggishly this year in the rare instances when he wasn’t trying to injure the opposing quarterback, so there’s no chance he’s going to see a penny of his $6.5 million salary in 2013. He’s as good as gone, and 15-year-old head coach Dennis Allen lost all respect in the locker room for not cutting him after the opener.
Star Lotulelei has been going No. 1 overall in some mocks, so he makes sense here as possibly the top player available who fills a huge need. I can’t see him falling out of the top three.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:26 am
Raiders never sunk this low under Al. All my life as a Raiders fan, this is the most hopeless its ever been going into a season.
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art shell II with the B&B OC was the worst thing we ever had to endure….DA was a close 2nd
January 19th, 2013 at 10:27 am
That is why I am amused by those that cite stats that are adulterated with games against weak teams like the Browns, Jags and Chefs.
What happened when we played the Broncos and Ravens this year or the Packers and Pats last year?
Got crushed. Dissappeared. Game Over. Never in it.
Those are the teams we need to beat to get into THE PLAYOFFS!!
That my friends is the gap we face and it starts on the lines.
Hell Ngata and Lewis did not even play against us this year and some guys are talking about how good are pass protection is. The game was over in the second quarter while facing the Ravens second string!
January 19th, 2013 at 10:28 am
2013-14 season…..4-12.
10 and then
1N
January 19th, 2013 at 10:28 am
Olson is a prelude to Gruden. Gruden getting his guys in here now. Gruden: 2014. Fact. Can’t reveal my sources, but have more than one.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:28 am
Come off the cliff Booty. You must have a softer melon than me. Even with CTE I recall the depths we sank to. Lance Muffin? !?! Art Shell and the BnB?!?! You’re kidding right? Joe Bugel. Dude your acting like a chick drama queen. Its a football team. Olsen is a football coach. Might even be a good one. Getting caught up in the Detroit/StL bonfires is no sin. Guys gotta eat…
January 19th, 2013 at 10:29 am
Oh, yeah, and then there are the posters who are mysteriously fascinated by what they call Dennis Allen’s “tits,” not realizing that what they are seeing is a seam inside his wind breaker.
IQs < 95.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:29 am
Somebody mentioned that this will be the FIRST TIME Olson has been asked to be a TRUE OC and call plays etc. so we can’t necessarily judge his past performance in that regard.
Maybe he’s a monster that’s just been waiting to become unleashed.
He’s gonna make his bones in Oakland.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:29 am
Who was that walking out the back door?… It was hope. oy
January 19th, 2013 at 10:29 am
Charlie Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 9:02 am
Without Ngata, Ray Lewis retires leaves Baltimore. Lewis said so.
“Ray Lewis made his point clear. Ten days before Saturday’s NFL Draft, he went on ESPN and said his Baltimore Ravens needed to draft a run-stuffing nose tackle in the first round. His former teammate, Maake Kemoeatu, a 350-pound nose tackle, had signed as a free agent with Carolina.
Without a big man in front of him, Lewis complained, he could not make plays. “If I’m not being used right,” he said, “you might as well let me go.””
Ed Reed is not covering anyone for five seconds.
Teo dissappears when his Dline gets pushed back four yards.
It all starts with line of scrimmage.
9 of your starting 22 (41%) plays exclusively in the box.
OLines create time and space. Dlines destroy time and space.
The rest of the pieces fill in the gaps.
Build dominant lines and everyone else looks better.
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Well said. I especially like the part about creating/destroying time and space. Isn’t that what football is all about at it’s most fundamental, physical level — a battle for time and space.
I would argue QB is still clearly the most important position on a team and really the entire organization. After that, it’s a toss-up between the o-line unit and the d-line, particularly the pass rush in today’s NFL. After that it’s wide receiver.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:31 am
Charlie.
The FACTS prove you wrong. The rebuilt lines of Seattle, KC, Indy, and washington never won 8+ games until a top QB showed up.
The chiefs have invested heavily in the trenches. Jackson, Dorsey, dontari poe, Albert… for what?
Packers, Lions, Steelers, Falcons, and giants all made playoffs recently with decimated lines.
Present facts, not just your opinion.
Skill players.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:31 am
Ha!
When Olson was dismissed by the Rams, guess who replaced him in St. Louis? — Al Saunders.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:31 am
J Hill Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 10:17 am
Don’t see how anyone was not impressed with Pryor’s 80 yd TD drive. The first of his career. Great decision making the whole drive.
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Odd how people bang on him for the amount of success he had in his debut. I think if you polled the Nation, he’d have a 95-5 approval. Always gonna be haters, no matter what.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:32 am
Ill give Olson a chance since he’s a power scheme guy and apparently likes to go vurtical. Hopefully his playcalling skills have gotten better over the years. As for him working with Pryor I dont think its tough to install some read option/pistol O. we will see how he looks at the senior bowl . No his resme is not great but like I said ill give him a shot.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:32 am
jackasspuria Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 10:31 am
Ha!
When Olson was dismissed by the Rams, guess who replaced him in St. Louis? — Al Saunders.
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Just a big old game of musical fckn chairs.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:32 am
the Pryor for Foles Trade has been floated. eagles fans think its a HORRIBLE idea. they think that pryor is a BAD passer and underdeveloped and can’t read defenses. damn even fans of other teams know. wake up raider fans
January 19th, 2013 at 10:32 am
Quite an infusion of coaching talent coming to the AFC West over the last couple of years.
Playoff coaches and assistants like John Fox and Jack Del Rio in Denver, Andy Reid, Bob Sutton and Dave Toub in KC, this year’s hot candidate Mike McCoy in San Diego along with Ken Whisenhunt who remains HC material and should land his next gig soon, John Pagano, their DC should emerge as a HC candidate soon.
Then there is Dennis Allen, Jason Tarver and Greg Olson.
Doesn’t look good in terms of outcoaching opponents.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:34 am
From what I’ve read from various media types on Olson is Greg is a power running, deep vertical passing disciple.
Next season will be Olson’s first (complete — if he makes it to the end) season as a play caller in the NFL.
He called plays for a time for St. Louis after Scott Linehan gave up the play calling duties and handed them over to the Olson.
Olson is known to be adept at Xs and Os. Let’s see if that translates into adjusting to in-game situations and calling some plays.
But the power running, vertical preference Olson goes by is similar to Saunders’ and Hubris’ offensive ideals.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:34 am
Greg Olson needs to Leave asap!
This guy is not doing the job his play calling is weak its as if he has no confidence in his team an they come out looking like they just woke up an have not practiced in days like this is the worse Tampa team I have seen in a long time an we had some bad ones.
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Bucs fan wrote this about Olsen,sounds like Knapp`s cousin
January 19th, 2013 at 10:37 am
Doug Martin and Vincent Jackson turned nice around. Same online there sucked last year.
Colts same oline and dline were 2-14 last year. They drafted skill players first 3 rounds.
Rams drafted 6 non o-linemen to turn season around and LET GO recent #1 pick LT Jason Smith
January 19th, 2013 at 10:38 am
Playoff predictions:
Whiners handle the Falcons. Easy.
My reason for saying this ?
Simple.
Any team that almost and should have lost to the RAIDS at home has no business sniffing a SB.
Patsies edge the Ravens.
Hard fought contest but Ravens have reached the end of their road.
Want to add that I might be the only football fan rooting for Ray Lewis to go out with a loss.
Great player and a true gladiator, but I don’t like the guy and never will.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:38 am
One would think a return to the power running scheme, vertical pass offense and scheming around player’s strengths would be enough to earn a “wait-and-see” for Olson from the Nation.
I’m in “wait-and-see” mode.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:38 am
funny how we were screamin that we shouldn’t run the zbs before the season and now our gm is conceding that it was a bad idea. blogger for gm!
January 19th, 2013 at 10:38 am
Charlie.
The FACTS prove you wrong. The rebuilt lines of Seattle, KC, Indy, and washington never won 8+ games until a top QB showed up.
The chiefs have invested heavily in the trenches. Jackson, Dorsey, dontari poe, Albert… for what?
Packers, Lions, Steelers, Falcons, and giants all made playoffs recently with decimated lines.
Present facts, not just your opinion.
Skill players.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:39 am
Falcons will beat Niners in a very high-scoring game.
Ravens will beat Patriots in a low scoring game.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:40 am
Our defense was top 3 in the league for the last quarter of the season. It will remain so for 2013.
People underestimate the destruction Knapp wreaked on the offense. Things will get back to Hue Jackson days.
Top 10 offense + Top 5 D = 12-4.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:40 am
You guys kill me …….
January 19th, 2013 at 10:42 am
The 49ers need to play like their fake internet girlfriend died…..
January 19th, 2013 at 10:42 am
More and more it feels like this whole thing is playing out for a move to LA with Gruden as HC, possibly as soon as 2014. I don’t think it’s a given, but maybe 50/50 and gaining steam.
In that scenario, I could see Reg staying on as GM with oversight of scouting operations, but with Gruden having final say on the roster, draft pics and coaching staff. Gruden and McKenzie would both report to Mark, or some other figure who’s not yet in the organization (Ray Anderson?).
Six for Oakland fans being forced to endure the regression that’s going on, only to have the team skip town and bring back the guy they’ve been clamoring for for years.
If that’s how this plays out, that is.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:42 am
Violent Hands Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 10:34 am
Greg Olson needs to Leave asap!
This guy is not doing the job his play calling is weak its as if he has no confidence in his team an they come out looking like they just woke up an have not practiced in days like this is the worse Tampa team I have seen in a long time an we had some bad ones.
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Bucs fan wrote this about Olsen,sounds like Knapp`s cousin
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And this proves what? That you can go on the sports’ forum pages of any daily newspaper and find blistering criticism of anyone who works for an NFL team. You can find such criticism every year on the pages of the Boston Globe, criticism of….Bill Bilicheck.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:43 am
Thank you lord no more zbs..
Krapp is a qb coach again.. where he belongs
January 19th, 2013 at 10:44 am
give it up willie
January 19th, 2013 at 10:45 am
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 10:38 am
Playoff predictions:
Whiners handle the Falcons. Easy.
My reason for saying this ?
Simple.
Any team that almost and should have lost to the RAIDS at home has no business sniffing a SB.
Patsies edge the Ravens.
Hard fought contest but Ravens have reached the end of their road.
Want to add that I might be the only football fan rooting for Ray Lewis to go out with a loss.
Great player and a true gladiator, but I don’t like the guy and never will.
>> yeah but the niners #1 WR can’t keep his hands in his pockets. looks like Crabs may have molested a tranny in SF.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:45 am
DJ Johnny Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 10:40 am
Our defense was top 3 in the league for the last quarter of the season. It will remain so for 2013.
People underestimate the destruction Knapp wreaked on the offense. Things will get back to Hue Jackson days.
Top 10 offense + Top 5 D = 12-4.
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pass that to the left!
sounds like we’re going back to hue ball (deep pass, power blocking) so why didn’t we just keep him?
January 19th, 2013 at 10:46 am
Raiders were a disjointed group offensively in 2012 due to the ZBS garbage. They had to think too much about how to execute instead of just playing football and kicking some arse.
DMAC will explode in the system that fits and Palmer will get back to doing what fits him as well.
RESURGENCE.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:46 am
Sitting great at #3 overall, especially if G. Smith gets drafted by either KC or Jax.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:46 am
Alex7 will never get it, yes those teams drafted skill players AFTER they drafted O and D lines.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:46 am
nonewordraider Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 10:45 am
DJ Johnny Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 10:40 am
Our defense was top 3 in the league for the last quarter of the season. It will remain so for 2013.
People underestimate the destruction Knapp wreaked on the offense. Things will get back to Hue Jackson days.
Top 10 offense + Top 5 D = 12-4.
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pass that to the left!
sounds like we’re going back to hue ball (deep pass, power blocking) so why didn’t we just keep him?
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For the same reason he doesn’t have a higher profile job now.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:47 am
Inonewordraider
Hubris is gone due to Mark Davis.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:47 am
We played one good offense in the final six games.. i wouldnt count on a top 5 D based on the end of our season.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:48 am
Interesting chart….
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/NFPS-Top-200-Draft-Prospects-Version-40.html
January 19th, 2013 at 10:48 am
Inonewordraider Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 10:45 am
DJ Johnny Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 10:40 am
Our defense was top 3 in the league for the last quarter of the season. It will remain so for 2013.
People underestimate the destruction Knapp wreaked on the offense. Things will get back to Hue Jackson days.
Top 10 offense + Top 5 D = 12-4.
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pass that to the left!
sounds like we’re going back to hue ball (deep pass, power blocking) so why didn’t we just keep him?
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Ego.
Not Hue’s. Reggie’s and/or Mark’s.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:50 am
The chiefs have invested heavily in the trenches. Jackson, Dorsey, dontari poe, Albert… for what?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
They were 5 in rushing yards per game, and they have the 1st pick of the 2013 draft.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:50 am
Hopefully rest of coaching staff is hired soon.
Bobby April — reputation wise — would be light years ahead and better as ST coach Hoffman was.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:51 am
JFB u still spewing that garbage about olines not being important,
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Never said “not important”. Every position is important, hell we learned the backup Long-snapper is important this year.
Some positions are more important than others, and I believe the QB-WR combo is the most important in football right now.
I post facts detailing my points, and you guys come at me with the “do you watch the games” and “how long have you been watching football” nonsense.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:51 am
Hue wasn’t kept becuz he is seen as a power hungry non-politically correct type of guy.
We’ll get the results without the hubris.
Raiders ready to explode on the league in 2013.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:52 am
New Cardinals coach Bruce Arians is bringing along a Colts assistant as his offensive coordinator.
Harold Goodwin, who coached under Arians as offensive line coach in Indianapolis last year, will be the Cardinals’ offensive coordinator this season, according to multiple reports.
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Not sure how we let this guy get away, lol.
Much better candidate than Olson.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:53 am
I would love to see a Joe Flacco-Matty Ice Super Bowl.
Two great young QB’s trying to knock the door down into the elite class.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:53 am
Marks Hair
Limiting Jamaal Charles to 10 rushing yards one week before he tears playoff up bound Indy defense for 100-plus yards was impressive.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:54 am
New Jaguars coach Gus Bradley’s going with what he knows, hiring University of Miami offensive coordinator Jedd Fisch for the same job on his new staff, according to ESPN’s Adam Schefter.
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Jedd Fisch, eh?
Wonder if this was one of the guys who refused to talk to us?
January 19th, 2013 at 10:56 am
Colts have struck a deal with Stanford offensive coordinator Pep Hamilton for that same position in Indianapolis. Hamilton coached Colts quarterback Andrew Luck at Stanford.
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Who????
Anyone willing to take this guy over Olson, lol?
January 19th, 2013 at 10:56 am
I think the most important position by far is quarterback. There’s been a lot of 4000 yard passers with out a real superstar wide receiver on their squad.
the only way to hurt the other team’s quarterback is to get a pass rush going. but that doesn’t have to come from 1 position.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:58 am
The Panthers elected to go for continuity rather than an outside voice, promoting quarterbacks coach Mike Shula to offensive coordinator, according to Joe Person of the Charlotte Observer.
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A QB coach of a losing team getting an OC job?
Unheard of, lol.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:58 am
Mumbles and Denise r sooo worthless and waaay over there heads can’t wait till this fcking experiment is over hopefully in 2014 mark will pull his head out his ass and brin in a real GM who in return will actually bring in a real coach and staff and with the 3rd overall pick in 2013 raids pick damontre Moore and with the first pick in the 2014 draft raids select clowney best DE combo in the NFL
January 19th, 2013 at 10:58 am
The best example of the O-line play not needing to be excellent to win the Bowl is the America’s Game show on the Steelers team that beat the Cardinals.
The whole premise of the show on the regular season, was how crappy their O-line was, how Ben was getting beat up, how Max Starks was the guy getting ripped all season on the talk radio shows.
Then when discussing Ben’s historic final drive, he talks about how he goes into the huddle and tells his O-lineman the whole “all year you have been getting ripped, and now is your time to show your stuff” pep talk.
First play on the drive, holding on the LT, lol. Ben jokes about it and kinds of rolls his eyes like, yup those guys fkn suck.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:59 am
812.. Not really. He hardly touched the ball. I think they were playing for the top pick.
January 19th, 2013 at 10:59 am
Anything new going on?
January 19th, 2013 at 11:00 am
Bucs GM Mark Dominik said Friday McNulty was joining the team as quarterbacks coach,
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666,
Your guy took a QB coach position like Krapp did.
January 19th, 2013 at 11:00 am
Raiders defense competed and played better last 5 games of season. defensive line is key, might want to upgrade. a top pass rusher would make this defense average and with a vertical pass/power run O scheme that would be good enough for now
January 19th, 2013 at 11:01 am
Top Salaries in the NFL:
Offense:
- QB
- WRs
Defense:
- Pass rushers
- CBs
That should tell you all you need to know about today’s NFL.
January 19th, 2013 at 11:02 am
jackasspuria Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 10:53 am
Marks Hair
Limiting Jamaal Charles to 10 rushing yards one week before he tears playoff up bound Indy defense for 100-plus yards was impressive.
>. holding Charles to 9 yards on 10 carries is impressive no matter how you twist it.
January 19th, 2013 at 11:02 am
Cam Newton had a lot of success the last month of the season, and our D knocked him down to BARELY outplaying Matt Leinart level.
Not sure about a top 5 D, but I think 2013 could be our best Defense in quite a few years.
January 19th, 2013 at 11:02 am
What a slap in our faces raider fanbase has suffered enough we the nation deserve much better than this schit that mark, mccheeseburger and Denise the tranny r shoving down our throats
January 19th, 2013 at 11:04 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 11:02 am
Cam Newton had a lot of success the last month of the season, and our D knocked him down to BARELY outplaying Matt Leinart level.
Not sure about a top 5 D, but I think 2013 could be our best Defense in quite a few years.
>> yep SCAM Newton was hot and the Raiders made him look pedestrian. that was an impressive defensive effort, 2nd to the falcons game IMO.
January 19th, 2013 at 11:04 am
Spot on O.
The free market will always dictate the level of importance.
January 19th, 2013 at 11:06 am
Thank God, Knap is gone.
January 19th, 2013 at 11:08 am
Just fire I totally agree a Matty ice Joe flacco super bowl would be awesome both those young stud qbs kick ass plus they were taken in the same draft Ryan 3rd overall and I believe flacco was taken 18th overall
January 19th, 2013 at 11:12 am
Cam Newton had a lot of success the last month of the season, and our D knocked him down to BARELY outplaying Matt Leinart level.
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Yup.
And the Panthers put up 44 the following week.
Build the offense!!!!
January 19th, 2013 at 11:12 am
The D as JFB noted improved drastically the last games of the season. With the top 3 pick in the draft going defense for us I see no reason it won’t even get better.
Top 10.
The offense will renew the form it had toward the end of 2011 with the new scheme designed around the strengths.
Guys no longer having to “think” so much about being in the right spot and instead focusing on moving the ball and making plays.
Top 10 D (down from top 5 a few posts ago) and Top 10 Offense spells 12-4.
January 19th, 2013 at 11:13 am
You left of “5.”
Sets up nicely for a Gruden return in 2014….
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# CDERaider Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:30 pm
Hate? I’m *lovin* this pick baby! A coach with a proven loser resume every place he’s been in the NFL? Lions, Rams, Bucs, and Jags. You know, the powerhouse teams?
Personally I’m stoked because it implies these certainties.
1) Olson came cheap. Real cheap. Has to has one of the lowest paid OC in the league (or one of the lowest). And maybe he even took a 1 year deal too!
2) The team will suck again next season and the entire staff will be fired at the end of the season.
3) We will have the #1 pick in next years ’super’ draft. Or at least a top 3.
4) The fact they hired another bum ensures me they are just holding water till the big move happens in 2014.
Awesome job Reggie/DA! You’re not as dumb as you look.
January 19th, 2013 at 11:14 am
Pryor to DHB int coming out of the half just SCREAMS for a #1 WR, lol.
DHB turns around late, and then jumps away from the ball.
Jammer makes the play on the ball we all hope our WRs can make someday.
SMH.
January 19th, 2013 at 11:15 am
The biggest effect we might see in the change of scheme is in the redzone, where in 2012 the zbs proced ineffective.
More TD’s= More wins.
Get ready. The Raiders are comin’ beyotches.
January 19th, 2013 at 11:17 am
Gruden will still be coming in 2014..only this time he’s inheriting a 12-4 team.
January 19th, 2013 at 11:19 am
I like that Pryor is running a ‘regular” offense instead of a gimmick pistol type offense.
The only running the QB is doing is scrambling.
January 19th, 2013 at 11:20 am
those were bad offenses no matter how you slice it.. but I think we can be average on d next yr.
January 19th, 2013 at 11:20 am
Based on his past performance & type of offensive design, he’s a good pick for us. Things are definitely looking better at OC. In my mind this also sends a signal that there will be an emphasis on offense and ZBS is gone. Based on that alone, I expect our 1st pick to be, assuming he’s available, Luke Joeckel, OT. Rebuilding the O-line is now priority 1. I can see Joeckel going to OLT, moving Veldheer to ORT. Picking up Andy Levitre (BUF) – OG in FA & possibly playing Bergstrom or Nix at ORG. I can also see us trading Brisel back to the Texans for a 3rd round pick. They need help on their right side (where he came from).
January 19th, 2013 at 11:20 am
DaTruth91 Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 11:20 pm
Dont understand all that hate… realistically, Dennis Allen is a young coach, and just alone eliminates most candidates.
He’s bringing back the Power blocking scheme, and likes to go vertical….already better than Knapp.
People just want to hate on anything…
*****
Spot on.
January 19th, 2013 at 11:23 am
Greg Olsen?!?
Yaaaaaaaawwwwwwwnnnn. Zzzzzzzzzzzzz
I think I will be looking forward 2014 & da being fired
This is not the innovative fresh approach I hoped for, instead we get a low rate retread. Local media calls him well regarded just like knapp was.
There go my hopes for the hybrid o.
Olsen plus palmer = arc west basement
Mcccoy & rivers
Manning and whomever
Reid & whom ever
Olsen & Palmer looking up at the rest of the division.
I will wait & see but if Olsen doesn’t blow me away with a new offense for tp6 this will be another very hard to watch losing season
January 19th, 2013 at 11:28 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 11:23 am
Greg Olsen?!?
Yaaaaaaaawwwwwwwnnnn. Zzzzzzzzzzzzz
I think I will be looking forward 2014 & da being fired
This is not the innovative fresh approach I hoped for, instead we get a low rate retread. Local media calls him well regarded just like knapp was.
There go my hopes for the hybrid o.
Olsen plus palmer = arc west basement
Mcccoy & rivers
Manning and whomever
Reid & whom ever
Olsen & Palmer looking up at the rest of the division.
I will wait & see but if Olsen doesn’t blow me away with a new offense for tp6 this will be another very hard to watch losing season
>> it’ll all work out. palmer and McFadden will lead the turnaround in 13. then in 14 Nick Foles will be the raiders starting QB and we’ll be an AFC west contender. looking good
January 19th, 2013 at 11:28 am
Mistic,
Reggie says EVERY POSITION will be earned…open competition.
Maybe Pryor beats him out.
Cheer up.
January 19th, 2013 at 11:29 am
Now that’s get Bobby April for Special Teams – Juan Castillo for the O-Line and draft Jarvis Jones with the #3 pick. We can go ahead and trade Carson for a pick or two as well. Jusy say no to trading Pryor to the Eagles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 19th, 2013 at 11:30 am
deepthreat21 Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 11:29 am
Now that’s get Bobby April for Special Teams – Juan Castillo for the O-Line and draft Jarvis Jones with the #3 pick. We can go ahead and trade Carson for a pick or two as well. Jusy say no to trading Pryor to the Eagles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>. you won’t get anything for palmer. Pryor for Foles straight up is already a hot topic and Kelly wanted Pryor before. it’ll happen.
January 19th, 2013 at 11:31 am
Juan Castillo is a WCO guy, isn’t he?
Need a power blocking guy.
Mike Tice would be better.
January 19th, 2013 at 11:32 am
Tice is good on the o line too. I’m good with that.
January 19th, 2013 at 11:33 am
Nick Foles will be the next Raiders QB. 6 6″ 230 with a strong arm. book it.
January 19th, 2013 at 11:34 am
Who the fugg is this impostor with that 666 crap. Behind my name????
JUST BE YOURSELF & Get off my nutz!!!!!!
January 19th, 2013 at 11:35 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 11:34 am
Who the fugg is this impostor with that 666 crap. Behind my name????
JUST BE YOURSELF & Get off my nutz!!!!!!
>> it’s my name now, get used to it
January 19th, 2013 at 11:36 am
Foles for Pryor is a rip off. Look at Kaepernick and DangeRuss Wilson – the NFL has evolved. Let’s go Reggie – no more bargain basement shopping!Still think we could weasle a 3rd or 4th rounder for Carson.
January 19th, 2013 at 11:37 am
deepthreat21 Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 11:36 am
Foles for Pryor is a rip off. Look at Kaepernick and DangeRuss Wilson – the NFL has evolved. Let’s go Reggie – no more bargain basement shopping!Still think we could weasle a 3rd or 4th rounder for Carson.
>> wilson and kapernick can throw.
January 19th, 2013 at 11:38 am
I think Myers will be gone and I can be wrong but this kid could be a nice replacement TE Travis Kelce (Cincinnati) 6′6″ 260 Pounds not a pure pass catcher but blocks well and has good speed can split out wide no need to say he can be a red zone threat!!!
January 19th, 2013 at 11:39 am
J Hill Says:
Juan Castillo is a WCO guy, isn’t he?
Need a power blocking guy.
Mike Tice would be better.
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WCO does not mean ZBS, you can run a WCO with the ZBS or you can run the WCO with power-man blocking like Jon Gruden used to.
January 19th, 2013 at 11:39 am
Johny
My issue isn’t the competition between the QBS or even the depth chart I’m certain Palmer will struggle at some point and Pryor will get a shot.
My issue us scraping the bottom for a retread failed oc
We should have joined the new century and gone for some gusto with a fresh hybrid approach.
It would fit our roster & currently is one of the most difficult things to stop making this team competitive & fun to watch over night.
So far big Mack has not impressed with his hires & da is a joke
January 19th, 2013 at 11:41 am
DJ Johnny Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 10:40 am
Our defense was top 3 in the league for the last quarter of the season. It will remain so for 2013.
People underestimate the destruction Knapp wreaked on the offense. Things will get back to Hue Jackson days.
Top 10 offense + Top 5 D = 12-4.
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LMFAO!!!!!!
January 19th, 2013 at 11:41 am
Down 24-7 to end the 3rd qtr.
Pryor is a better option than Leinart is about all I’m willing to say now.
Not really making anything happen to keep us in the game. 4th qtr stats and TD will be the same garbage time stuff we complain about with Palmer.
January 19th, 2013 at 11:42 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 11:39 am
Johny
My issue isn’t the competition between the QBS or even the depth chart I’m certain Palmer will struggle at some point and Pryor will get a shot.
My issue us scraping the bottom for a retread failed oc
We should have joined the new century and gone for some gusto with a fresh hybrid approach.
It would fit our roster & currently is one of the most difficult things to stop making this team competitive & fun to watch over night.
So far big Mack has not impressed with his hires & da is a joke
>. hybrid O gets stopped and contained by good front 7s like any other offense. difference is that you’re using your QB like running back and that increases risk of injury. its 11 against 11, your hybrid scheme is just another scheme nothing more. power run game vertical passing, tried and tested and has never failed.
January 19th, 2013 at 11:44 am
But why be such a little biatch
Why not be your own man & stop trying to ride on the name I built you fuggn loser
What a piece of SHID cowardly thing to do. Only a phag would do that.
Do you think by using my name people will pay attention to you?
They won’t . People may not like me but they also must admit that I am right about lots of things.
You are just a nobody with zero knowledge & a punk for cross posting
January 19th, 2013 at 11:44 am
J Hill Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 11:41 am
Down 24-7 to end the 3rd qtr.
Pryor is a better option than Leinart is about all I’m willing to say now.
Not really making anything happen to keep us in the game. 4th qtr stats and TD will be the same garbage time stuff we complain about with Palmer.
>> yeah 24-7 against SD actual starters on last game of year. Pryor got 2 garbage time TDs against backups against a team with nothing to play for in a toilet bowl. Pryor will get his chance in Philly
January 19th, 2013 at 11:45 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 11:44 am
But why be such a little biatch
Why not be your own man & stop trying to ride on the name I built you fuggn loser
What a piece of SHID cowardly thing to do. Only a phag would do that.
Do you think by using my name people will pay attention to you?
They won’t . People may not like me but they also must admit that I am right about lots of things.
You are just a nobody with zero knowledge & a punk for cross posting
>> go take your prozac crybaby. I’m mistic now you’re just a busta
January 19th, 2013 at 11:47 am
In the end, Allen felt as if Olson is the best fit.
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This is Bull****.
Why give tits the power to determine who is the best fit. He failed miserably last year with the “best fit” thing. Reggie is clueless.
January 19th, 2013 at 11:47 am
Bob,
Really, I’m in the camp of you can block or you can’t.
But it didn’t seem to me that Philly ran the traps and counters that most people want to see when talking about DMac and what he does best.
What do you think?
January 19th, 2013 at 11:48 am
NEVER wanted to see Leinart on the Raiders. He needs to go pick up teenage chicks in SoCal. Complete waste of air. I’m ready for TP6 time – the only pick he threw was because DHB doesn’t know how to go up for balls. Carson would have given up 11 sacks against SD – TP gave away 0.
January 19th, 2013 at 11:48 am
Not psyched about Olson but at least power blocking is back! 7-9 here we come
January 19th, 2013 at 11:48 am
YO YO YO THE BEEEECH DAWG N FULL EFFECT
Whut up blog goobers, nerds and loserdorks
Just pulled the Rasta Ganja tour van into the Catamaran, getting checked in before our big gig tonight at an undisclosed upscale steak house
We smoked hella reefer all the way down and wrote a couple new jams about gettin’ way laid. Should easily get us some xtra tips, wurd
Already signed up for a huge beach volleyball tournament, gonna cruise the resort in nothing but my jean shorts and fanny pack today
(the reefer is in my fanny pack, hint hint, wink wink)
Before our game starts we’re cruising over to Morray’s for some major Long Island Ice Tea action
Always helps my spike game
HOLLA BACK TO THEM YOUNG MISSION BEACH HIZZIES
January 19th, 2013 at 11:51 am
Willing to give Olson a chance. He is endorsed by Chucky and Gabbert/Henne had some big games this year and they completely suck.
January 19th, 2013 at 11:51 am
There is only 1 person that uses the word busta on this board
MR GRADKOWSKI RAIDER!!!!!!
What a pathetic little loser. Can’t create anything on his own has no fred so he switches & hijacks handles.
This is exactly why you get. No respect phag got
Stop biting my style sully you don’t have the goods to be me
By the way adding 666 only shows your devilish nature troglodyte
January 19th, 2013 at 11:53 am
LOVE the Olson pick now. I wasn’t sure I cared for it, but if missdick doesn’t like it, it MUST be good.
Lol. So much for Pryor being a focal point of the OC hire like missdick claimed.
Missdick–u were hard-selling us that it was obvious from everything said that Pryor was moments away from being the starter in a “space age” offense (does that mean rocket boosters?). Are u going to admit u were wrong? Forget about why u think its bad. We know that. But u were laughing and laughing, talking about how scared we all were now that we saw Palmer was out and how u were so proud of the raiders and u had told us all.
Best……..hire…….ever.
Priceless.
January 19th, 2013 at 11:55 am
The Beeeech Dawg kinda likes the new Mistic
Way more chill than the creepy old one who was always trying to dry hump KrappyRat’s leg
Guess the old fools on the board eventually have to be replaced with younger, hipper bloggers
Sorry old dorks, just keeping it real
January 19th, 2013 at 11:56 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 11:51 am
There is only 1 person that uses the word busta on this board
MR GRADKOWSKI RAIDER!!!!!!
What a pathetic little loser. Can’t create anything on his own has no fred so he switches & hijacks handles.
This is exactly why you get. No respect phag got
Stop biting my style sully you don’t have the goods to be me
By the way adding 666 only shows your devilish nature troglodyte
>> 2 people use the word busta now busta. I’m mistic no and you’re just a little crybaby. go cry in your pillow little girl
January 19th, 2013 at 11:57 am
dr_robert Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 11:53 am
LOVE the Olson pick now. I wasn’t sure I cared for it, but if missdick doesn’t like it, it MUST be good.
Lol. So much for Pryor being a focal point of the OC hire like missdick claimed.
Missdick–u were hard-selling us that it was obvious from everything said that Pryor was moments away from being the starter in a “space age” offense (does that mean rocket boosters?). Are u going to admit u were wrong? Forget about why u think its bad. We know that. But u were laughing and laughing, talking about how scared we all were now that we saw Palmer was out and how u were so proud of the raiders and u had told us all.
Best……..hire…….ever.
Priceless.
>. don’t pick on Prozac boy, its not nice to pick on the mentally disabled
January 19th, 2013 at 11:58 am
Olson could be a nice hire BUT as long as we have sharpie bot as HC it might be an uphill battle.
January 19th, 2013 at 11:58 am
Dr slob that doesn’t mean Pryor isn’t a major consideration.
I will wait and see & even if he can. Hold an offense for Pryor.
Shanhan bevel in Seattle and roman in sf NONE OF THEM WERE HYBRID GUYS THEY BECAME THAT AFTER HAVING A QB THAT COULD DO IT.
So Olsen may be able to do it as well
I will wait and see big Mack and da have both said Pryor is a pryority
January 19th, 2013 at 11:58 am
sharpie BOY!!haha
January 19th, 2013 at 11:59 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 11:58 am
Dr slob that doesn’t mean Pryor isn’t a major consideration.
I will wait and see & even if he can. Hold an offense for Pryor.
Shanhan bevel in Seattle and roman in sf NONE OF THEM WERE HYBRID GUYS THEY BECAME THAT AFTER HAVING A QB THAT COULD DO IT.
So Olsen may be able to do it as well
I will wait and see big Mack and da have both said Pryor is a pryority
>. chip kelly is a Pryor fan busta. keep that in your little mind
January 19th, 2013 at 12:03 pm
Mystic 666 is waaay smarter that’s that pos mystic mystic 666 is also spot on power running game with vertical passing game is very tried and tested and never fails completely agree the guy makes sense and hopefully Pryor does get his shot with Philly cuz I def don’t want that loser qb my raiders no thanks
January 19th, 2013 at 12:03 pm
Brahs, just got hella high with this dude who knows Karch Kiraly and he gave me some great setting pointers
Me and the Rasta Ganja Krew are now guaranteed to DOMINATE the beach today
Plus there’s this totally stacked beach MiLF (massive fake rack, high 5) checking out the Lawg
You know the Lawg is in his usual position – just the tip falling out the bottom of my jean shorts
MAKIN’ DEM LADIES GO INTO HYPERDRIVE
January 19th, 2013 at 12:09 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 11:34 am
Who the fugg is this impostor with that 666 crap. Behind my name????
JUST BE YOURSELF & Get off my nutz!!!!!!
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Just being Himself, doesn’t get him anywhere.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:09 pm
REALLIONAIREB Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 11:38 am
I think Myers will be gone and I can be wrong but this kid could be a nice replacement TE Travis Kelce (Cincinnati) 6′6″ 260 Pounds not a pure pass catcher but blocks well and has good speed can split out wide no need to say he can be a red zone threat!!!
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Yeah. I’m all about Kelce in the mid-rounds. Think he can be a significant upgrade over Myers. Think Aaron Hernandez athleticism with better size. Myers put up numbers last year because Knapp’s offense heavily involves the TE and Palmer would also dump the ball off to him because the WRs couln’t get open or the line was breaking down. But Myers did a terrible job as a blocker and was never much of a threat to do anything with the ball in his hands. Basically, Myers is a backup and we need an upgrade. Some very good TEs in this class with the likes of Eifert and Ertz. I really like both those guys. But Kelce would be a tremendous value pickup in the middle rounds.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:09 pm
Mistic the suppa busta is scared of me. I’ve got prozac boy hiding under his little blankey. I’ll be a regular on here so I’m up for any discussion about football. For the record I’m biased towards a power run/vertical pass O scheme using a strong armed pocket passer. thats my style and i think its the best offensive scheme ever used.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:09 pm
Missdick–I’ve been thinking. Ur a black man in America which puts u in a weird position. U resent how blacks have been treated historically in this country so u refuse to integrate into society out of bitterness. Except ur focused on the past. We’ve changed. The world has. It’s not colonial times. It’s not the sixties. Don’t u think its better to live in the present? U didn’t have a choice to be born here, in this country at this time. But here u are. Just be an American. Yeah, there’s still racism around, ur bitterness is preventing u from living a happy life. There are lots of good people out there. Even Malcolm x realized that. Then his own people killed him for it.
Hate is ALWAYS evil. It grips u. Warps u. Love is the thing kid. All colors have good and bad people. Learn who is who.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:10 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:09 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 11:34 am
Who the fugg is this impostor with that 666 crap. Behind my name????
JUST BE YOURSELF & Get off my nutz!!!!!!
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Just being Himself, doesn’t get him anywhere.
>. damn you rushed to your girlfriends defense fast didnt ya?
January 19th, 2013 at 12:11 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
I will wait and see big Mack and da have both said Pryor is a pryority
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Yep. Lionheart is out and Pryor gets to fight for #2 spot ’cause big Mack and da have said our starter will be your favorite Golden Haired Hero. Worship now, worship later, or do both. Doesn’t matter to me, most fans, the team, or management.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:11 pm
is there any way to just have DA as a penalty coach?
January 19th, 2013 at 12:11 pm
Hahaha theres not a chance in hell Olsen was brought in to run a offense for Pryor no chance at all so sit on that and rotate mystic cry baby
January 19th, 2013 at 12:12 pm
ian85 Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:11 pm
Hahaha theres not a chance in hell Olsen was brought in to run a offense for Pryor no chance at all so sit on that and rotate mystic cry baby
>> Mistic suppa busta has a mental illness.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:13 pm
Palmer’s arm is so shot I hardly noticed a difference in velocity when pop-gun arm Matty Lice came in to relieve him.
Would be nice if CP retired. That would get us off the hook for his salary and not screw us cap-wise, wouldn’t it ?
And if TP is as bad as some of you insist, we’ll ’suck like hell for Manziel’.
IT’S TP TIME !
January 19th, 2013 at 12:13 pm
Ian85 Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:03 pm
Mystic 666 is waaay smarter that’s that pos mystic mystic 666 is also spot on power running game with vertical passing game is very tried and tested and never fails completely agree the guy makes sense and hopefully Pryor does get his shot with Philly cuz I def don’t want that loser qb my raiders no thanks
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As a raider fan shld not we be pulling for all the guys who put on sliver and black??? I mean I hope all draft picks and free agents work out for us!!! Never understood why people only pull for certain players and hope others fail would dat make you a fan of the player and not the team??? Unless you have a motive of getting under the skin of another poster here with the things you say???
January 19th, 2013 at 12:14 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:13 pm
Palmer’s arm is so shot I hardly noticed a difference in velocity when pop-gun arm Matty Lice came in to relieve him.
Would be nice if CP retired. That would get us off the hook for his salary and not screw us cap-wise, wouldn’t it ?
And if TP is as bad as some of you insist, we’ll ’suck like hell for Manziel’.
IT’S TP TIME !
^^^ mistic the suppa busta in one of his ninja disguises
January 19th, 2013 at 12:15 pm
Mystic666 it is the best offensive scheme ever it’s with stood the test of time
January 19th, 2013 at 12:17 pm
vertical pass scheme is EVEN better now with all of the bullsh*t anti-defense rules now. there should no question about running this scheme at all in this era. but the air coryell type scheme will work in any era.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:18 pm
There is no doubt this new Mistic is way cooler than the old numnut
New Mistic is down with bagging on Mistic & his girlfriend KrappyRat plus he totally digs power blocking
Old Mistic whines like a senile fool all day while spooning with my minion Nob Bust – the Official Blog Punching Bag – and reminiscing with K-Rat ’bout them good ol days
The choice is pretty simple if you ask The Dawg (that’s me, brahs, just to clarify)
WOOF WOOF BAAAAARK MEOW
January 19th, 2013 at 12:18 pm
Missdick–but there u go lying again. U lose so much cred when u lie. It doesn’t fool anyone.
Neither DA nor Reggie said Pryor was a priority. U know this. They said some marginally complimentary things that mostly led me to believe they WEREN’T high on him, but u take a few words here and there and blow them up out of proportion, and ignore everything else.
Except there’s nothing to sell. Lets say u convinced us. Then what? U just look stupid when it doesn’t pan out.
Btw, I know why u lie. U have that old black Muslim thing where u say “they’ve been lying to us for hundreds of years. If I confuse and frustrate them, good.” Except all it does it make u a liar. An excuse for being as bad as the people u hate.
Tell the truth. Be a good man. That will enrich ur life more than anything. And no one can hurt u if ur a good man.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:19 pm
Chris In NY Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:09 pm
REALLIONAIREB Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 11:38 am
I think Myers will be gone and I can be wrong but this kid could be a nice replacement TE Travis Kelce (Cincinnati) 6′6″ 260 Pounds not a pure pass catcher but blocks well and has good speed can split out wide no need to say he can be a red zone threat!!!
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Yeah. I’m all about Kelce in the mid-rounds. Think he can be a significant upgrade over Myers. Think Aaron Hernandez athleticism with better size. Myers put up numbers last year because Knapp’s offense heavily involves the TE and Palmer would also dump the ball off to him because the WRs couln’t get open or the line was breaking down. But Myers did a terrible job as a blocker and was never much of a threat to do anything with the ball in his hands. Basically, Myers is a backup and we need an upgrade. Some very good TEs in this class with the likes of Eifert and Ertz. I really like both those guys. But Kelce would be a tremendous value pickup in the middle rounds.
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I think we can really get better in this draft!!! I just hope we can trade out of the #3 pick to like 9-12 and get back in the 2nd round and we could really fill some holds on this team!!!
January 19th, 2013 at 12:19 pm
REALLIONAIREB I kno that Ur right and I totally agree I just like fcking with mystic that’s all
January 19th, 2013 at 12:21 pm
Lol mr = dr slob = Mac butt plug 20 = fake kell
Enjoy your circle jerk cross posters
Olsen da & reggie are on the clock
January 19th, 2013 at 12:21 pm
i got rid of the mistic the suppa busta and his girlfriend KoolKell see anything is possible. raiders can in the AFC west next year,
January 19th, 2013 at 12:22 pm
Ian85 Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:19 pm
REALLIONAIREB I kno that Ur right and I totally agree I just like fcking with mystic that’s all
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That guy can’t get a break in here huh???
January 19th, 2013 at 12:22 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:21 pm
Lol mr = dr slob = Mac butt plug 20 = fake kell
Enjoy your circle jerk cross posters
Olsen da & reggie are on the clock
>. you seem more cheerful, did ya take your Valium?
January 19th, 2013 at 12:23 pm
REALLIONAIREB but also in all seriousness I think Pryor blows unlike alot of people in here i watch college football as much as the NFL ive seen what Pryor can do and honestly I think he sucks run first qbs don’t make it in this league Joe webb, Seneca Wallace, kordell Stewart, Arron Brooks, I could go on and on they all suck and I happen to think Palmer is a stud he just got dealt a bad hand with the DA and knapp and now Olsen
January 19th, 2013 at 12:23 pm
has a team ever taken an OG in the top 5?
January 19th, 2013 at 12:24 pm
As a renowned missdick battler, I find “new mistic” and his theft of “missdick classic”’s handle to be funny.
But I don’t care for the 666 thing. I’ve always found that to be the tool of guys trying too hard to be scary. Which it’s not.
Not sure why he added it.
Is “New mistic” the same guy as “New Kell”? Will we be seeing a “New Priest” soon?
January 19th, 2013 at 12:24 pm
Brahs, this is so awesome that Nob Bust has realized he can’t defend himself anymore again The Dawg
Makes baggin’ on the poor fool that much easier when there’s no response. Easy money, cash money.
2013 is going to totally rule, word
Speaking of my girlfriend Cinnamon, she just called from Wendy’s in Huntington Beach all bitter ’cause I didn’t invite her to the big gig
Probably going to break up with the ho if she doesn’t top hasslin’ the Dawg
WRECKS N FULL EFFECT
January 19th, 2013 at 12:25 pm
If by OG, u mean Original Gangster”, yes.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:27 pm
REALLIONAIREB it’s not so much mystic can’t get a break in here it’s just that he keeps sticking his foot in his mouth with comments like Joe Webb should have been starting all year over ponder lol like wtf Joe Webb had more bounce passes then a timberwolves point guard he’s just a moron that’s all
January 19th, 2013 at 12:27 pm
dr_robert Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:25 pm
If by OG, u mean Original Gangster”, yes.
>. i meant Guard, RG,LG offensive guard isn’t a description? i made it up
January 19th, 2013 at 12:28 pm
Raiders could possibly take a guard at 3. its unlikely though
January 19th, 2013 at 12:29 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
Lol mr = dr slob = Mac butt plug 20 = fake kell
Enjoy your circle jerk cross posters
Olsen da & reggie are on the clock
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He knows I’m real ’cause I freely admit to worshipping our Golden Haired Hero. And he’s proud of coining the phrase.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:30 pm
Missdick really likes to believe that all of the guys who tell him he’s an idiot are the same person. He’s so delusional. Living his life in a little “back to Africa” fantasy. He’s become paranoid.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:31 pm
I fully endorse post 909.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:31 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:29 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
Lol mr = dr slob = Mac butt plug 20 = fake kell
Enjoy your circle jerk cross posters
Olsen da & reggie are on the clock
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He knows I’m real ’cause I freely admit to worshipping our Golden Haired Hero. And he’s proud of coining the phrase.
>. mistic the suppa busta has been put in check. I’m mistic now and i actually have SOME football knowledge not just masturbatory pistol QB fetishes
January 19th, 2013 at 12:31 pm
Brahs, AWESOME BEEECH DIGGITY NEWS
We just won our first beach volleyball game and are moving onto the Semis!
During the break I’m going to escort this dope beach MILF back our suite for a bubble bath and salad toss
Gave the Lawg a good 11 hours of sleep last night, he should be plenty rested for 9 – 15 bareback hump sessions
Thankfully the Rasta Ganja Boyz just set up the PARTYDUDE 8000 on the beach, so tasty margs are on the way
Y’all don’t have to worry anymore about our slightly parched throats, holla
January 19th, 2013 at 12:32 pm
Whoa. That was awesome.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:35 pm
There are plenty of choices at #3. Depends on what u think ur greatest need is. I think the defensive improvement combined with Reggie and Allen’s comments about the pass rush getting better when the coverage gets better, might mean they’re not as concerned about defense as we might think.
I think OL or CB could be the focus.
Joekel, warmack, milliner
January 19th, 2013 at 12:37 pm
Masturbatory pistol qb fantasies.
Lol. Very succinct summary of practically everything missdick has ever posted.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:42 pm
Mystic666 is a breath of fresh air nice to see agaric u can actually talk football with
January 19th, 2013 at 12:43 pm
A lot will change on Reggie’s board by the draft. Whoever he thinks will be the best player I suppose. The greatest impact. We have several options and the top of the draft seems to fit our greatest needs pretty well. If we stay at three, we really can’t lose. Unlike jv, who onviously would love to go qb but don’t see one that highly rated.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:44 pm
Kc. Stupid spell check.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:47 pm
Ian85 Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:23 pm
REALLIONAIREB but also in all seriousness I think Pryor blows unlike alot of people in here i watch college football as much as the NFL ive seen what Pryor can do and honestly I think he sucks run first qbs don’t make it in this league Joe webb, Seneca Wallace, kordell Stewart, Arron Brooks, I could go on and on they all suck and I happen to think Palmer is a stud he just got dealt a bad hand with the DA and knapp and now Olsen
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My take on TP is because of his attitude,his work ethic,his humbleness,his will to get better,he see his weakness and his will to attack it I want him to succeed and hopefully it will be as a Raider !!! I can’t give an honest opinion off of one start on this kid it isn’t fair to him to call him a loser when you call him a loser I put that in the same category as the player who name should not be spoken on any forum that has to do with Raiders(we drafted him 1st overall) and we both know he’s not that!!! But as far as Palmer being a stud idk bout that one but are you saying he’s with the Brady’s the Bree’s the Rogers or the Manning’s of the world or do you mean he’s with the Flacco’s Rivers the Matt Ryan’s Shaub’s of the world??? But my hopes is Palmer is around 2-3 more years because that mean he has us in the hunt for a AFC west title or on the door of our 1st playoff berth in a decade and Pryor develops his game and become our QB of the future because that would be great for the Raiders being that he was Uncle Al’s last pick!!! And I must say I gave the entire offense a pass this year under Knapp but this up coming season it’s all about competition in every position no one shld be given a thing no one should be assured a starting job or a back up for that matter may the best man win and that will make the Raiders better!!!
But that’s just my opinion and I’m sure you have yours and you are entitled to it my friend!!!
January 19th, 2013 at 12:50 pm
I wonder if Gino becomes more of a factor now with Olson becoming our new OC?
January 19th, 2013 at 12:51 pm
Aren’t all the biggest idiots here the ones who are convinced there are all these cross posters and that’s why so many guys think they’re morons?
Combo of paranoia and delusion. Their little worlds would crash hard if they realized how no one likes them. Poor guys.
One guy (can’t remember his name-too trivial) actually goes as far as combining handles and referring to multiple posters as one adversary. It must help him feel he can handle the humiliation better.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:55 pm
We will not succeed with Olsen. Not one of his teams were close to the playoffs. He was oc of veteran players that didn’t need training. This is a ridiculous hire because nobody wants to work under Denise. Not to mention he runs a PBS and we signed mike brisiel since he’s a fit for zbs. 20 mil wasted on a position player when we have other glaring needs. Even the browns have respected coordinators on both sides. We get crap. Emperor said 13-3 on the last topic, I say 3-13 and yall can remember that. I hate Denise.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:55 pm
I’m intrigued by the chance to grab our franchise qb of the near future. I would think that would be geno. I’m sure there might be a guy who rises fast after the combine. But I like a lot of what I know about geno. Not often u pick this high so a qb might be ticket.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:56 pm
DrRobert still in here with three fingers in his a$$ and two on the keyboard.Sunnyvale’s star child predator.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:57 pm
On the other hand, not having another pick until the 3rd means picking a qb really ignores the opportunity to grab an impact player that will help right away.
It will be fun to watch it unfold. This could be Reggie’s legacy draft.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:57 pm
Many have said next year is a better QB draft, but the mocks I’ve looked at don’t really bear that out. Don’t watch enough college ball to say different.
January 19th, 2013 at 12:58 pm
Maybe we get a qb in the 3rd or 4th. Tyler bray. Someone like that with high upside but with time to develop.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:01 pm
I laugh at all the zoneblocking jerkies who said it would lead us to the promise land. AAAAAAAA HHAAAAAAAAAA. Told ya. MAN IM TIRED OF BEING RIGHT! I could have saved bottom lip a whole year of loseing in 5 seconds and two words. ZONEBLOCKING SUCKS!
January 19th, 2013 at 1:03 pm
Warmack is at the top of my board, even at #3 overall; hopefully we can move back a couple times and still get him in Detroit, Arizona, Cleveland, or Buffalo’s spot and pick up a 2nd & a 3rd.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:04 pm
Palmer and Pryor are good enough to get us through 2013.
Draft a QB in rd 2 next offseason.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:04 pm
It will be fun to watch it unfold. This could be Reggie’s legacy draft.
Reggies legacy will be that he was fired in the middle of his second season for being a loser and reccomended by John Madden.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:04 pm
Purvis–I never believe u wait. Too much changes.
My experience tells me we don’t get get a qb until possibly the later rounds. We’re gonna need another one anyway and he will have time to compete with Pryor, if they’re gonna allow him to stay at qb.
It’s maybe the best plan. Don’t prioritize it but address it for down the line.
I think al davis drafted Pryor on potential as a qb or a wr. But that’s when it looked like we needed one for the near future. After we got Palmer, everything changed. Pryor can’t sit around “developing” for 5 or 6 years. He needs to be converted in my opinion.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:05 pm
Joeckel, Moore, Warmack, Millner, Mingo, Werner.
All would be solid additions.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:06 pm
there is nothing wrong with the ZBS….we just didnt have the players that fit the scheme and the OC DA selected to run it sucks…..the system is fine….
January 19th, 2013 at 1:06 pm
Where’s our OC? We need an OC. I want an OC! What the he11 are they doing over there?
Not that OC. We don’t want that OC. I don’t like that OC! What the he11 are they doing over there?
January 19th, 2013 at 1:06 pm
Bergstrom , Burris, and Streater will all start next year. Bilikudi will get major playing time.
Not a bad first draft for McKenzie.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:07 pm
REALLIONAIREB post 920 well said man I respect u and Ur opinion and no I absolutely do not put prior in the Brady mannings Rodgers brees category but def put him in that flacco Ryan category Palmer can be really good he just needs some help around him a number one WR wouldn’t hurt McFadden back in the power scheme should help I honestly would have loved seeing him in hue Jackson offense this past season with a full offseason under his belt instead of last year coming off the couch and maybe Ur right maybe TP can develop I honestly don’t think he will but hey weirder things have happened
January 19th, 2013 at 1:07 pm
Where’s our OC? We need an OC. I want an OC! What the he11 are they doing over there?
Not that OC. We don’t want that OC. I don’t like that OC! What the he11 are they doing over there?
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the common thread in our disillusionment is reggie and DA
January 19th, 2013 at 1:11 pm
Bergstrom , Burris, and Streater will all start next year. Bilikudi will get major playing time.
Not a bad first draft for McKenzie.
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Bergstrom is a ZBS technique guy….burris and streeter are nice guys to have to fill in for starters….they are not starters
reggie draft Cminus reggie coach selection Dminus final grade year 1- D
January 19th, 2013 at 1:11 pm
I have a feeling RM is gonna move down and get more picks. Apparently he loves his draft picks. And no we don’t need to draft a QB.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:11 pm
935.00tt00 Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 1:06 pm
there is nothing wrong with the ZBS….we just didnt have the players that fit the scheme and the OC DA selected to run it sucks…..the system is fine….
No it sucks.Thanks for playing.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:11 pm
Actually sully your reference about masterbation & my junk & the fact that I’m black seesms to expose the deep fear of genetic annihilation & sexual inadequacy . So does Mac butt plug/ dr rob obsession over black QBS . When Ian & the rest of the cross posting sick puppets join in it becomes a circle jerk.
You all are obsessed over football? Where a white qb dominates a brown ball & the object is to penetrate the white goal line with the brown ball.
The team that breaks the defended white goal line with the brown ball ( black mans genetic material) wins the game.
This is why you hate black men playing qb. You don’t like the idea of a black man controlling his own genetic material & penetrating your white goal line. The goal line a d Enzo e are metaphors for white genetic material & the fact that you are less than 1/10th of the world population.
Come on losers, it isn’t my fault original man is melanin dominant and the woe majority.
You don’t have to be threatened by a black mans Intelect or genetic material….. We don’t really care enough about you to want to harm you.
Don’t blame me the most high made it this way now play your part
January 19th, 2013 at 1:12 pm
Picture of Knapp hitchiking out of Oakland. Needs to lose the shirt.
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2013/1/18/3892776/greg-knapp-lands-as-qb-coach-with-cenver-broncos
January 19th, 2013 at 1:12 pm
Anyone getting drafted from this E-W Shrine game?
January 19th, 2013 at 1:13 pm
dr_robert Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 12:24 pm
As a renowned missdick battler, I find “new mistic” and his theft of “missdick classic”’s handle to be funny.
But I don’t care for the 666 thing. I’ve always found that to be the tool of guys trying too hard to be scary. Which it’s not.
Not sure why he added it.
Is “New mistic” the same guy as “New Kell”? Will we be seeing a “New Priest” soon?
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Funny you mention it.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:14 pm
reggie draft Cminus
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If you can block, you can block.
Bergstrom will start at LG next year.
Burris and Streater will start too.
3 starters with your first pick being in rd 3?
How is that a C minus?
January 19th, 2013 at 1:16 pm
Brisiel is our third best ol at best, Vehldeer & Wisniewski are our best OLine players and power is what they are best at; draft Warmack, left side to interior OLine is the best in the NFL;
Vehldeer LT
Warmack LG
Wisniewski C
I think Nix will beat out Brisiel & Bergstrom for RG, therefore
Raiders can go after a top FA tackle for RT, possibility of drafting Long fro Oregon and trade either Brisiel or Bergstrom.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:16 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
You all are obsessed over football? Where a white qb dominates a brown ball & the object is to penetrate the white goal line with the brown ball.
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I prefer PAC 12 college ball, with the Trojans penetrating deep into Beaver territory.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:17 pm
947.J Hill Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 1:14 pm
reggie draft Cminus
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If you can block, you can block.
Bergstrom will start at LG next year.
Burris and Streater will start too.
3 starters with your first pick being in rd 3?
How is that a C minus?
I like how you say certain players WILL start next year.Im glad you sit in the office right next to Mark Davis. GMAFB! Streater?? JEEEEZUS CHRISTMAS.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:18 pm
Old Mistic, I actually love penetrating brown women with my white ding dong, repeatedly crossing their goal line
Usually I go bareback so both races can blend into one color, shout out to my homies in Jamaica, MON
Now that you’re washed up on the blog, you should take your act down to Kingston and learn from my fellow reggae masters
So many smokin’ brown babes down there, the Lawg never gets to take his daily nap
January 19th, 2013 at 1:19 pm
You don’t have to be threatened by a black mans Intelect or genetic material….. We don’t really care enough about you to want to harm you.
Don’t blame me the most high made it this way now play your part
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You mention your intellect but you misspelled the word.
And you capitalized it too.
That is too freaking funny.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:21 pm
I prefer PAC 12 college ball, with the Trojans penetrating deep into Beaver territory.
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LOL
January 19th, 2013 at 1:23 pm
RaiderRetribution, with any luck, Briesel was not a major blunder on Reggies part,and really was hurt, and despite having his old O line coach, Knapps system really was that bad. I know Houston fans lamented the loss.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:24 pm
Bergstrom is 6′5″ and 313 lbs.
According to NFL.com he isn’t a strong blocker but has patience and vision and is able to pull, an essential in the Raiders zone blocking system.
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Good-sized, experienced, versatile, bump-and-steer blocker. Is best-suited at left guard in a zone scheme, although he possesses the smarts and versatility to serve as an emergency backup tackle. I
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IJ Hill Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 1:14 pm
reggie draft Cminus
If you can block, you can block.
if that statement were true we would have been fine at OL last year…….people have different skill sets and fit different things…..trade bergstrom for another 3rd round pick and start over again
January 19th, 2013 at 1:27 pm
I’m white mystic and also enjoy penetrating a nice milk chocolate women from time to time it’s fun
January 19th, 2013 at 1:27 pm
Jokefoshow–Why do even come here? U get ridiculed by everyone. U don’t have any quality things to say about the raiders. U immediately pick fights and then get mad when they rip on u. Are u even a fan? Or do u just get off on starting trouble?
I mean what makes jokefoshow think “I’m getting on the raiders board”?
January 19th, 2013 at 1:27 pm
Priest Remixed Says:
But I don’t care for the 666 thing. I’ve always found that to be the tool of guys trying too hard to be scary. Which it’s not.
Not sure why he added it.
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I imagine whoeveritwas666 wanted us to know it was him. Sounds like him.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:29 pm
GET READY GOOBS
Got a massive deuce bangin at the back door ready to stick its head out. Got to find a place to grab onto cuz this is gonna take some serious gruntin. Wor.
HOLLA BACK AT YA
January 19th, 2013 at 1:29 pm
Milk chocolate? You just getting warmed up, or is that your limit?
January 19th, 2013 at 1:31 pm
Ok this comes from a legit member who has a legit source who works for hte Raiders
on Greg Olson .. and other raider fans “hating on him” he writes
“They thought that the coach style fit the core players strengths. If they waited until after the Super Bowl there was no guarantee that if they picked one of the other available guys if he would come here. All in all they wanted a guy under contract now to evaluate players at the Senior Bowl. I will find out some more info tonight but this info came to me at around Midnight via text message LOL.”
January 19th, 2013 at 1:31 pm
Yawl aint never exprienced nuthin till ya mudd butted it the right spot. Smoothe as butter fun. Thats right, mudd butt supreme.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:31 pm
I know some of you may be debating just for the sake of talking football which is cool, but the debate is an answer in itself.
There are many different ways to win in the NFL. But the big factor is being right which there is no absolute formula to. You can either be competitive by building a stout defense, getting a franchise QB, building an Oline, etc. But it starts at the top with decision making. Recognizing what you have, what you need and how to get it. Then execution plus some kind of luck.
Seems like a no sh!t kind of thing but when everybody has examples of every position being the RIGHT way to win, I feel like bringing it up.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:33 pm
Also to add.
There is one position that leadership doesn’t equal winning at and that’s punter.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:33 pm
Now we can commit to real o lineman
January 19th, 2013 at 1:33 pm
Good grief. We are not drafting Warnack. A guard is the LEAST of our needs.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:34 pm
Purvisman uhhh black women
January 19th, 2013 at 1:39 pm
it appears that Jim Caldwell in Baltimore and Pep Hamilton in Indianapolis will be the NFL’s only African-American offensive play callers in 2013.
-PFT
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Hue Jackson is still the asst waterboy in Cincy
Can we stop talking about him, now?
January 19th, 2013 at 1:39 pm
Yo, time for our semi final beach volleyball game
My ding-a-ling is still kinda sore from hooking up with that stacked MILF, but the Beeeech Diggity is going to block out the pain
Any of my Blog Brahs that can score CRAZY CHRONIC in SD hit up the Dawg
We’ve only got a pound left and only 3 hrs until soundcheck
DONT HIT THE PANIC BUTTON YET, BEEECH DAWGY
January 19th, 2013 at 1:39 pm
I’m guessing by missdick’s silly wordplay and faux black Muslim rhetoric, that he may be a five percenter. They’re renowned for their attempts at seeming intelligent by twisting words around and finding supposed links between all manner of unrelated things. They basically play a word version of 3-card Monty. It’s quite ingenious and entertaining to listen to. But of course it’s complete nonsense.
Missdick’s attempt to equate colors on a football field with whiteys supposed fear of the superior black man is classic five percenter stuff.
But it’s also classic hustler schtick. And very much like the nazi propaganda machine. It’s all trickery. The devil can trick u with words. Evil stuff. Spreading disorder and dischord.
Desperation missdick.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:41 pm
Well, we shall see what we have this year. Wouldn’t be upset about drafting Geno. Best case scenario, both Houdini and Geno turn out to be studs and we can trade one of them for a king’s ransom. Worst case…one or both flops and we move on knowing we need to draft another QB.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:41 pm
He then writes
“Man what a bunch haters here. I was going to post this last night but I figured I would let someone else do it. As of last night there were three main guys on their list Martz, Saunders and Olsen who I did not know the identity of until real late last night. The were also looking at a couple guys on Playoff rosters but thought it better to pull the trigger now due to the coaching staff being in Mobile ready to coach the Senior Bowl. Olsen is an guy that runs a Power Blocking scheme, likes strong arm QB and will not run DMac to death. HATE ON. WOW. I guess you guys wanted Martz? Olsen will work with Saunders on making this offense efficient. “
January 19th, 2013 at 1:44 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
Come on losers, it isn’t my fault original man is melanin dominant and the woe majority.
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The woe majority? Almost missed that. That’s what I get for skim/skipping his posts.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:44 pm
So now we have “new Kell”, “new mistic”, and “new priest”.
Updated, flip-side versions of our board’s coke, Pepsi, and rc.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:45 pm
Streater will start?
DMo17 has one spot. Heyward-Bey has the other
Ford is returning, as well.
Rod is only starting if you dump DHB and move the smurf to return-only duties
King Darrius was poorly managed this year, like everybody else. at times it seems he’s the only WR who can make a play!
his production level is not on par with his pay, but you could say the same about Palmer, McFadden, Kelly, Branch & Huff too – all under contract for 2013
January 19th, 2013 at 1:47 pm
Ian85. Yeah, I got that. I guess the flyby was over you.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:48 pm
972 i agree. saunders helps mentor olson something krapp didnt do. they have basicly same ideas on offense and since saunders didnt want the job having someone willing to work with him was important to da. time will tell
January 19th, 2013 at 1:48 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 1:33 pm
Good grief. We are not drafting Warnack. A guard is the LEAST of our needs.
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Yea… Carlyle and Briesel were soooo stellar last year!
rolling eyes
January 19th, 2013 at 1:48 pm
Allen hired Olson after a lengthy and thorough search that included interviews with numerous high-profile candidates.
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John DeFilippo, Kelly Skipper & Mark Hutson = high profile candidates?
January 19th, 2013 at 1:49 pm
.trade bergstrom for another 3rd round pick and start over again
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If he’s good enough to bring back a 3rd rd pick, we might as well keep him.
We had a team full of ZBS specialist before Wylie got here and we didn’t have to make any changes.
If you can block, you can block.
Bergstrom is 315lbs. He should be fine at LG.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:50 pm
Yea… Carlyle and Briesel were soooo stellar last year!
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Agreed.
OG is the “LEAST” of our needs?????
WOW!
January 19th, 2013 at 1:50 pm
saunders didnt want the job
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he didn’t?
link? source?
Saunders interviewed the KC’s open OC position last offseason. I don’t see why he wouldn’t want to be an NFL play caller just 12 months later
January 19th, 2013 at 1:51 pm
Will Saunders call plays?
January 19th, 2013 at 1:53 pm
are Juan Castillo & Bruce DeHaven still available?
January 19th, 2013 at 1:53 pm
Palmer will be traded for Cut.
They need a Qb to groom with too PRyor or Geno Smith.
Will Carson healthy enough all season?
Either way GRUDEN is back in 2014. Mark told him to wait another year cuz he couldnt fire DA now
Reggie said give DA one more year then do as u wish.
5 wins next year max.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:53 pm
Rod is only starting if you dump DHB and move the smurf to return-only duties
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Smurf will be the slot guy.
Streater, man.
You heard it here first.
Big, strong, fast, major hops, and can catch the ball. He’ll be much better next year.
January 19th, 2013 at 1:59 pm
Yo, me and the Rasta Ganja Boyz just cruised in to Moray’s to celebrate our SEMI FINAL VICTORY
Ahhh yeah, I can hear the celebration spreading across the blog … thanks for the props, Brahs
Before the finals we gotta get hella baked and do some break dancing near the koi pond
UCLA gettin’ ready to bounce the Quacks, up at the break, shout out to the Mighty Bruin in the Sky (fly so high)
WIGGA WIGGA WHUUUUT
January 19th, 2013 at 1:59 pm
DMo17 has one spot. Heyward-Bey has the other
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17 and 85 will not be our starting WRs next year.
DHB especially.
January 19th, 2013 at 2:00 pm
Paul Domowitch@pdomo
Mayock on Geno Smith: “He’s athletic. Natural arm, delivery. From phys. skill-set perspective, could do some of things (in Kelly’s O).”
January 19th, 2013 at 2:01 pm
We better not draft Geno Smith.
If KC and the Jags pass on him, I fail to see how draft him.
Unless Palmer is traded, I’d say it’s borderline impossible.
January 19th, 2013 at 2:03 pm
I’d rather trade for Matt Flynn but it would have to be a PLAYER FOR PLAYER trade not draft picks.
Keep the draft picks.. GRUDEN/ JOHNNY FOOTBALL NEXT YEAR with the 2nd overall pick we will have
January 19th, 2013 at 2:03 pm
WOULDN’T REALLY MATTER WHO THE OC IS, IF WE DON’T FIX OUR O-LINE THAT IS GARBAGE, THEN NOTHING MUCH WILL HAPPEN ON OFFENSE. ALSO NEED GOOD RELIABLE BACK-UP. AMAZING TO WATCH THESE PLAYOFF TEAMS, THEIR QB’S ARE CLEAN AND HAVE THE TIME TO LET THE ROUTES BE RUN BY THE RECIEVERS AND HOLES OPEND FOR THE RUNNING BACKS. OUR GAME PLAN HAS BEEN RUN, RUN, PASS PUNT
January 19th, 2013 at 2:03 pm
Doesn’t DHB have a vicious cap hit next year?
I don’t see how we can cut him’without seriously screwing the books.
January 19th, 2013 at 2:05 pm
We don’t need geno we need to build the lines of scrimmage take a qb in next years draft we need a pass rusher badly
January 19th, 2013 at 2:06 pm
Papertiger418
DHB’s 2013 cap hit is $10.6 million
January 19th, 2013 at 2:06 pm
17 and 85 will not be our starting WRs next year.
DHB especially.
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Jhill,
you’re not paying Darrius big money to ride the pine
he’s starting or he’s cut.
I still think Greg Jennings is in play, especially if we tell DHB & smurfette to kick rocks
January 19th, 2013 at 2:06 pm
Yo, question for my Blog Brahs -
When you’re getting a shorty in the poop chute and she starts complaining about her parents, do just bust a quick nut and split or do you keep pumping and try to give her some sound advice?
I’m usually undecided
January 19th, 2013 at 2:06 pm
Mistic. Heads up. The Brady Bunch Movie is coming on in half an hour. But it’s on CMT so you probably knew that. Or do you prefer the TV series? Knew you were into them.
January 19th, 2013 at 2:07 pm
we need a pass rusher badly
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yes we do!!
January 19th, 2013 at 2:08 pm
We need to dump Palmer veldheer Myers wheeler branch. Replace them with Pryor drafted guy ausberry green beanie and Mitchell. That’s the plan. Dump our best players and replace them with guys who never did anything. We can do this!
January 19th, 2013 at 2:09 pm
I can see this happening..
Olson brings the offense back up to a Hue Jackson level of production, then Jason Tarver proves to be our Chuck Bresnahan
we finish 8-8 again, 3rd place in the AFC West
January 19th, 2013 at 2:09 pm
Purvis–lol. I kinda think he’s married to a white woman who b1tches nonstop.
January 19th, 2013 at 2:09 pm
J Hill Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 1:50 pm
Yea… Carlyle and Briesel were soooo stellar last year!
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Agreed.
OG is the “LEAST” of our needs?????
WOW!
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I wonder what games these guys are watching?
“Football outsiders” had our mid/guards ranked 28th this season, down from 25th the previous year. This is a heavily neglected area.
January 19th, 2013 at 2:09 pm
All starts in the trenches.
Raiders O-line needs a surge of talent and so does the Raiders D-line.
Cooper Carlisle, Mark Brisiel and Khalif Barnes are serviceable, but a new influx of talent can only help.
Tommy Kelly is also serviceable, but, his 2013 salary is not reflective of his pay.
Like many have said here, O isn’t going without O-line.
January 19th, 2013 at 2:10 pm
Palmer will throw a costly INT going for the win in the opener
January 19th, 2013 at 2:11 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit
And McFadden is lost to a foot injury in the opener, as well.
January 19th, 2013 at 2:11 pm
draft barret jones after trade down.. move wiz jr back to guard
January 19th, 2013 at 2:12 pm
Dr Bob,
I’m on board with giving the youngsters more playing time too!
Pryor, Bergstrom, Ausberry & Nix on offense
Crawford, Bilukidi, Burnett & Chekwa on defense
January 19th, 2013 at 2:12 pm
Jennings and Streater sound good to me, RRS.
January 19th, 2013 at 2:13 pm
Taiwan JONES will have a career year this year under OLSON
runs for 700 yards .. catches for 300 yards
January 19th, 2013 at 2:14 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
draft barret jones after trade down.. move wiz jr back to guard
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Every now and then you’re sensible.
January 19th, 2013 at 2:14 pm
Sign Charles woodson, Sign ASO if they are both cut
trade down and draft Alec Olgetree or Barret jones
January 19th, 2013 at 2:15 pm
And then you’re not. Taiwan’s going on ‘D’.
January 19th, 2013 at 2:15 pm
Here’s another thing to consider….
The ZBS system called for smaller, athletic type lineman and that usually meant teams could wait in late rounds/free agency to nab these type of lineman.
With Greg Olson now as OC, a disciple of the power running, vertical passing style offense, the Raiders are expected to go to more of a power blocking scheme.
And those big brutes are the big uglies taken in the first two to three rounds of the draft.
January 19th, 2013 at 2:16 pm
Pryor–wr yes. Qb no.
Bergstrom/nix–yes
Ausberry–sure. In two te sets.
Crawford–in time
Bilukidi–definitely
Burnett–not quite
Chekwa–sub
January 19th, 2013 at 2:17 pm
It will be interesting to see if any of the players that were barely used by Knapp will be used by Olson next season.
Taiwan Jones was in the doghouse from the get-go after his week 1 performance.
And DA gave Knapp the freedom to call plays and use players as he saw fit.
Eager to see if Olson uses TJ, Ausberry, Gordon, etc. etc. more next season.
January 19th, 2013 at 2:18 pm
Palmer is not a qb anymore.. he is an OC in training now. / qb coach
He can coach PRYOR who is a better RZ Qb then palmer. power run game gets us into RZ .. Pryor finishes it .
January 19th, 2013 at 2:18 pm
Gdog Says:
I wonder what games these guys are watching?
“Football outsiders” had our mid/guards ranked 28th this season, down from 25th the previous year. This is a heavily neglected area.
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Our starting QB isn’t much for scrambling. Gotta protect him!
January 19th, 2013 at 2:18 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist
I believe it’s more likely Taiwan Jones will have more interceptions as a DB than carries as a RB next season.
But, who knows.
Maybe TJ isn’t in the doghouse under Olson…?
January 19th, 2013 at 2:20 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
Palmer is not a qb anymore.. he is an OC in training now. / qb coach
He can coach PRYOR who is a better RZ Qb then palmer. power run game gets us into RZ .. Pryor finishes it .
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I tell you you’re sensible now and then and you go off the rails.
January 19th, 2013 at 2:21 pm
Maybe TJ isn’t in the doghouse under Olson…?
Has to learn how to block or the D will know why he’s in there.
January 19th, 2013 at 2:24 pm
TJ looked damn good as a STs gunner.
Was a former CB too.
I wouldn’t mind seeing him get a shot in the secondary.
DMac and Reece are going to get most of the work at RB no matter how you slice it.
January 19th, 2013 at 2:25 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist
Indeed. So true about the position of running back is more than just carrying or catching the ball. You also have to protect QB.
It’s like Chris Johnson’s situation in Tennessee. Teams now he’s in their to carry the ball. Dude isn’t stout and can’t block a lick. And TJ is, physically, built like CJ.
January 19th, 2013 at 2:28 pm
Daniel Jeremiah@MoveTheSticks
Georgia LB Alec Ogletree reminds me of a bigger version of FSU/Steelers LB Lawrence Timmons. Very athletic/explosive, struggles to take-on
January 19th, 2013 at 2:29 pm
Trading down makes alot if sense and so does taking a oline man but I really want Moore or Werner so next year we can pair one of them up with clowney that DE combo would be insane and no doubt the best combo in the NFL for years that will be mumbles and tits legacy for the raiders when there fired next year but atleast we will have a great pass rushing dline due to there incompetence
January 19th, 2013 at 2:30 pm
Mistic the suppa busta is having a nervous breakdown.
January 19th, 2013 at 2:32 pm
Greg Olson?
DA is done. Just fire DA now and get it over with. What a uninspiring choice at OC.
January 19th, 2013 at 2:33 pm
if olson can use the talent it may get interesting…if he is a shill for DA…5-11
January 19th, 2013 at 2:33 pm
they will call it improvent…
January 19th, 2013 at 2:33 pm
Ian85
Getting a terrorizing DE combo like that would be enticing and fantastic.
But there are too many variables at this point in terms of Clowney.
Sure, he could become more of a monster and guarantee himself the top pick spot or top 5.
But, he could get injured, academics could faulter, etc. etc.
Plus, while it seems feasible the Raiders will be picking in Top 5 again, that’s not a guaranteed thing, as well.
January 19th, 2013 at 2:35 pm
RaidO
Here’s the glimmer of hope in Olson:
A power-running, vertical offense disciple, creates an offense based on his player’s strengths.
Those attributes should at least give him a ‘wait-and-see’ from the Nation.
January 19th, 2013 at 2:36 pm
man could u imagine if this te’o came out like 2 weeks after the draft
and the raiders had taken him at 3 Lol.. Raider nation would be having fits
January 19th, 2013 at 2:37 pm
Seems like a no sh!t kind of thing but when everybody has examples of every position being the RIGHT way to win, I feel like bringing it up.
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LOL
Well, can’t argue with that.
January 19th, 2013 at 2:38 pm
teo story*
January 19th, 2013 at 2:38 pm
SBreport@SBreport
Hard to feel overly encouraged about Raiders offense next year reading the timeline of @AsherMathews.
January 19th, 2013 at 2:38 pm
“Of the teams that Olson was OC of, the offenses have ranked 28, 10, 28, 30, 20, and 27th.”
Don’t expect much. I think DA just signed his walking papers.
Maybe Lovie Smith in 2014.
January 19th, 2013 at 2:39 pm
If Reggie and especially this coaching staff get some serious help, maybe even from an outside source, they might improve. But they all really need sound advice on everything from A to Z. All facets of the game, coaching, protocol, etc. All of it. Reggie and this coaching staff need help. Not a bad thing, but leave those guys alone and we are looking at 2-14.
January 19th, 2013 at 2:40 pm
bring in gruden 2014!! get rid of reggie…
January 19th, 2013 at 2:40 pm
bottom line MARK FUGGED up hiriing a rookie GM.. listening to the outdated Ron Wolf.. so his son could get a promotion in GB
WEAK
January 19th, 2013 at 2:40 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit
Best line in regards to the Te’o story I found was along the lines of this:
“That would explain Manti Te’o’s performance in the BCS title game. He wasn’t trying to tackle Alabama players. He was trying to give his imaginary girlfriend a hug out there on the field.”
January 19th, 2013 at 2:40 pm
I think this Te’O thing will end up being like the Randy Moss deal.
It was clear with Moss, as it is with Te’O, that he was one of the top 3-5 players in the draft. ON-field performance was off the charts, for multiple collegiate years.
Then you get some funky pre-draft stuff going on, he slips from the top 5 or so, into the late teens, then by the 3rd week of the season, the whole league realizes they massively overthunk that one.
Te’O is going to be a multiple Pro Bowl LB, not a doubt in my mind.
Him, Warmack or Smith are my three top choices. Each one of these DE/OLB guys scare me a little, but we do need help there.
January 19th, 2013 at 2:41 pm
Al_is_theraiders
A lot of the Gruden-to-Raiders hopefuls are encouraged by the Olson signing, believe it or not.
It gives more credence to Jon coming back.
Why?
Gruden hired Greg Olson to replace Paul Hackett as QB coach in Tampa in Jon’s final year at the helm of the Buccaneers.
January 19th, 2013 at 2:43 pm
interesting…
January 19th, 2013 at 2:44 pm
Jackass I kno that barring injury tho he should be the first player taken and I just don’t have faith in Reggie or Da so I expect to be picking in the top 2 next year
January 19th, 2013 at 2:44 pm
i wanna see tj get a screen…i want to see him in open space.
January 19th, 2013 at 2:44 pm
People mock Te’O for the ‘Bama game, but didn’t Jarvis Jones get just as manhandled when he played them?
Hell, Jones was neutralized BY TE’S THAT GAME!!!
January 19th, 2013 at 2:44 pm
Is Mistic1 still around herein?
January 19th, 2013 at 2:45 pm
Ian85
I hear you man. I could see a disaster season and a so-so season coming up in 2013.
January 19th, 2013 at 2:46 pm
Taiwan Jones has more fumbles than 10 yard gains in his career.
Move him to defense.
January 19th, 2013 at 2:46 pm
I wonder if Gruden will be in phone contact with Mark during the draft?
January 19th, 2013 at 2:46 pm
Alec Olgetree was not getting manhandled by anyone on that BAMA team
the guy has speed and could be sideline to sideline type player
January 19th, 2013 at 2:46 pm
Just Fire Baby
The comical line I heard about Jones from his lackluster game was…
“Jones was busy talking to the opposing tight ends of what he was going to buy after he got drafted and got all that signing bonus money.”
January 19th, 2013 at 2:46 pm
If it isn’t Knapp then it’s good news.
January 19th, 2013 at 2:47 pm
Scourge
Probably.
For all we know, Gruden is the one that steered Olson in the Raiders’ direction.
Jon pegged Greg Olson as his new QB’s coach in Tampa after Gruden fired Paul Hackett.
January 19th, 2013 at 2:47 pm
aiders new offensive coordinator, Greg Olson, was the Jaguars quarterbacks coach last season. Prior to that he had been the offensive coordinator with the Buccaneers for three seasons (2009-11).
Few would have a better idea of his performance as a coach and coordinator than a writer who covered every game as well as all the players he coached in those stops.
We start with Alfie Crow from Jaguars blog Big Cat Country who gives us some insight into Olson’s work with the quarterbacks.
“Olson joined the Jaguars last season as assistant head coach/quarterbacks coach under Mike Mularkey,” said Crow. “Olson quickly made a difference improving Blaine Gabbert’s overall mechanics, especially his footwork and his balance in his drop back. Some of that translated to the game, but obviously Gabbert didn’t seem to improve as much as most would have liked. Olson was a coach the Jaguars were said to have wanted to retain however, but were not going to block any moves. I do know that in the past as an offensive coordinator Olson has employed a zone-blocking scheme and has seen big years from Steven Jackson and LaGarrette Blount.”
Next I asked Sander Philipse from the Buccaneers blog, Bucs Nation.
“First, he’s mainly a West Coast Offense guy,” said Philipse. “He has some influences from other offenses, most notably some of Mike Martz, and the Bucs always talked about a run-heavy, throw-deep offense — but that never really came out on the field.
“With the Bucs, he had a few weird staples. He’d run really badly-blocked end-arounds with Arrelious Benn, which were routinely disastrous and never gained much yardage. He’d have one or two deep shots off play action per game.
“As for a run game, he never seemed to commit to either zone or power runs and ran a mixture of both.
“Slow starts were an issue throughout his tenure, and the Bucs didn’t score a single point in the first quarter of 25 of 48 of his games. They managed to score 7 or more points in the first quarter just 10 times. The offense would often get going later on in games, but the early going was always a problem.”
What Philipse said about Olson is very interesting because he does not have the reputation as being a West Coast Offense type coach. He certainly didn’t run that type of offense while with the Rams in 06-07.
It seems to me, he tried to tailor his scheme to fit the personnel he had on the Buccaneers. That is what the Raiders are hoping is the case.
And I hate to say it, but both descriptions sound very much like they are talking about Greg Knapp last season. Great QB coach, West Coast Offense, mix of zone and power blocking scheme, slow starter, Lack of long passes. The knocks with regard to play calling from fan comments I read from when Olson was still OC in Tampa Bay were uncanny in their similarity to Knapp as well.
The main difference is in the track record with players who thrived in his system. Carson Palmer, Darren McFadden, and Marcel Reece are three such players who should do well with Olson. That could make all the difference. We shall see.
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2013/1/19/3894980/jacksonville-jaguars-tampa-bay-buccaneers-insight-oakland-raiders-offensive-coordinator-greg-olson
January 19th, 2013 at 2:47 pm
A reminder that people were disappointed when gruden was hired.
Here is a guy who is going to run power ball with deep throws(hue jax, gruden, turner) and some of you want to mail it in because of you haven’t heard of him?
It hasn’t been easy being a raider fan lately but it must be hell for some of you what with all your vast football knowledge that supersedes what our coach and gm know.
May you all find successful employment in either role with an nfl team (hopefully just not the raiders because I think your not gonna do as good of a job as you think you would).
January 19th, 2013 at 2:48 pm
without dumping Briesel Carlisle and Barnes this is all for nothing
January 19th, 2013 at 2:49 pm
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FO SHIZZLE IN DA WIZZLE, WORD.
January 19th, 2013 at 2:51 pm
I hope Smith an Barkley have off the charts workouts and go 1-2 in the draft to the QB starved Chiefs and Jags.
January 19th, 2013 at 2:53 pm
J-puria, that’s what I was thinking too. Given some of the posts this evening that are associated with that sense, I thought I’d ask to see reactions.
January 19th, 2013 at 2:54 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 1:39 pm
it appears that Jim Caldwell in Baltimore and Pep Hamilton in Indianapolis will be the NFL’s only African-American offensive play callers in 2013.
-PFT
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Hue Jackson is still the asst waterboy in Cincy
Can we stop talking about him, now?
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Nope.
I’ll be introducing a 6 part series entitled “I did it My Way”….the Hue Jackson Story” which will be an in depth examonation of his life and legacy; on and off the gridiron.
I hope you enjoy it.
January 19th, 2013 at 2:56 pm
Olsen= Knapp 2.0
“Tampa Bay offensive coordinator Greg Olson suggested quarterback Josh Freeman and some other players might have lost their swagger in the loss to Detroit. He might have a point. But I don’t think you’d be out of line in suggesting Olsen’s play calling might have played a role in the loss of swagger.”
A lot of the stuff on Olsen sounds like Knapp’s crap
January 19th, 2013 at 2:56 pm
Priest Remixed
Please tell me you got an in-depth one-on-one session with Hubris’ preferred nail professional!?
January 19th, 2013 at 2:56 pm
Hue Jackson was the greatest coach we had since Gruden and u want to stop talking about him?
Dennis Allen is the worst coach we have had since well.. name ur pick other then Madden, Gruden, Hue Jackson, Tom Flores, and 80’s Art shell
There is plenty to choose from
January 19th, 2013 at 2:59 pm
http://www.RehireJonGrudenNow.org/petition/make_a_case_for_gruden%%%%%2013.01.18%%/244466519438547&%%??
January 19th, 2013 at 3:00 pm
Olsen= Knapp 2.0
“Olson was the subject of much hatred from Buccaneers fans, mostly for a lackluster offense and eternal slow starts, as well as the infamous Benn’d-around. Still, Olson did preside over a successful 2010, arguably Josh Freeman’s best season and Legarrette Blount’s breakout year. It’s just a shame that he also presided over the rather disastrous 2011 showing, when the Bucs trotted out one of the league’s worst offenses and seemingly every single player regressed.”
January 19th, 2013 at 3:00 pm
I’m still kinda curious what Al Saunders role in all this is. I was trying to think of some role to compare his to. The closest I got is Michael Byrne’s role as the advisor to the Russian president in the movie Sum of All Fears. He’s an experienced guy who understands some of what AD was trying to do and has worked with the returning coaches and players. he can use this knowledge and experience to be the advisor behind the throne who can whisper in Mark’s ear when the coaches and players are arguing among themselves re: schemes, etc. I think he’s also an insurance policy in the short-term if a good HC is needed real quick. I suspect either AD and/or some of AD’s advisors knew what mark might be facing and arranged to have AS on the staff. I’m betting he makes enough of a salary to make it worth hanging around. But I could be wrong.
January 19th, 2013 at 3:01 pm
jfb…jump aboard man theres room…lol…DA will be gone soon anyways, reggie following.
January 19th, 2013 at 3:04 pm
If Knapp was so bad, why did Denvers’ Manning just sign him? I’ll tell ya why. Oakland let that one slip away. Now if Knapp can ruin Manning like he did the entire Raider offense, defense and special teams, we’ll be in good position to claim the AFC west.
January 19th, 2013 at 3:05 pm
jackasspuria Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 2:56 pm
Priest Remixed
Please tell me you got an in-depth one-on-one session with Hubris’ preferred nail professional!?
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You’ll be pleased to know that yes…I was fortunate to obtain an exclusive with all of them.
Be looking for continued sneak peak excerpts of not only the book I mentioned but the sequel (soon to be released) entitled “You Can’t Handle the Truth”- Rising Above the Flak and Folly of the NFL.- by Hue Jackson.
January 19th, 2013 at 3:06 pm
Dennis Allen is the worst coach we have had since well.. name ur pick other then Madden, Gruden, Hue Jackson, Tom Flores, and 80’s Art shell
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Coach is only as good as his players.
Name a HOF coach that had a bunch of nobody’s?
Name a SB coach that had a bunch of non pro bowlers?
January 19th, 2013 at 3:06 pm
A Tampa bay fan on Olsen:
“Greg Olson is an absolute embarrassment. The only offensive coordinator I’ve ever seen that was this predictable was Steve Addazio when he was with the Gators. How on earth this guy still has a job is mind blowing.”
Ha ha sound familiar? Sounds like us talking about Knapp.
January 19th, 2013 at 3:06 pm
RaidO
Sure does sound like Knapp 2.0.
But, criticism follows every coach, no matter what.
When Mike McCarthy was hired by the Green Bay Packers as head coach, the Cheese message boards were an inferno of pure hatred and ridiculed the hiring saying McCarthy made the 49ers’ O worse during his tenure as OC.
From Andy Reid to Jim Caldwell to Cam Cameron even Norvel and Josh McDaniels, offensive guys are always criticized at every gig they’ve taken.
January 19th, 2013 at 3:07 pm
A Tampa bay fan on Olsen:
“That Offensive Coordinator should never come back to tampa Smh.. When you run a play like that its common since to have a small fast player that comes around to get the ball. Never Coordinate an offense again even on Madden”
Damn
January 19th, 2013 at 3:07 pm
We had the personel to be good this year (last season). Our coaching staff was below sub-par.
January 19th, 2013 at 3:08 pm
Saunders is pushing 67 years old. I was watching an NFL network thing, and there he was coaching the San Diego replacement players, in the early 80’s.
And he looked old then and it was 30 years ago, lol.
Why would he want the stress of having to talk the media, get 2nd guessed all the time, have to stand on the sidelines for 4 hours, etc as an OC?
He probably is making close to 6 figures, and is the last guy in to work, and can work from home half the time.
January 19th, 2013 at 3:08 pm
1045.Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 2:44 pm
i wanna see tj get a screen…i want to see him in open space.
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I don’t think Priest runs as well as he used to. The play would have to be blocked pretty well.
January 19th, 2013 at 3:09 pm
from Reggie interview :
Q: Last year you were obviously hamstrung by the salary cap problems and the need to jettison players. Are you in a position this year to basically shape this team the way you wanted to? How constricted are you going to be?
A: “Personally, I think we’re about a year away from that. We’re not in the salary cap situation like last year, but we still have issues .. We’re not out of the woods by any stretch, but we are better off than last year.”
Q: You look at the way you seem to be approaching things, salary-cap conscious, building with young players, talent you want to develop yourself.
A: “Everything is still going to be predicated on money…”
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Reggie said clearly they’re still one year away from being able to shape the team the way the want. As unsatisfying as the pick is, Olson was probably the only *realistic* choice available to DA. Look for major cost cutting personnel moves this season. I *do* expect a strong draft from Reggie though. *Lots* of talent this year, especially on D, trade down and stock pile picks.
As much as this year will sting, this sets us up for a comeback next year. Clean cap, full draft, high picks, and a potentially new staff. And that’s really the *best case* scenario considering where we stand *today*. We have to take some steps backward to move forward. That’s the way the salary cap era works when you get in the cap hole. And a 2 year turnaround is pretty good considering how deep we’re in.
Things are looking up despite the current pain.
2014. The Empire Strikes Back!
January 19th, 2013 at 3:09 pm
Some of you ladies are mailing it in already? Not one play called and Greg Olson is already Greg Knapp pt 2?
Some of you Raider fans are a bunch of fck’n Debbie Downers. lol
January 19th, 2013 at 3:09 pm
RaidO
From a Green Bay fan on McCarthy:
“And this is our new head coach… a guy that has the distinct honor of creating an offense that finished the season ranked last in the NFL in points scored and yards gained. Great job.”
January 19th, 2013 at 3:10 pm
The Georgia defensive player I was most impressed with on the year was the big dude in the middle Jenkins.
He was ineligible for the bowl game though, and Ogletree had a great bowl game.
Jenkins in the 5th round (highly, highly doubt he falls that far) would be ideal.
Maybe we can “catfish” him to plummet his stock some?
January 19th, 2013 at 3:11 pm
MiamiRaider78
It could be a coping mechanism — set the bar at its lowest point, so when success does come, the jubilation and glee are ten fold.
If you expect a failure, but get a so-so or a winner, you feel better.
January 19th, 2013 at 3:12 pm
Coach is only as good as his players.
Name a HOF coach that had a bunch of nobody’s?
Name a SB coach that had a bunch of non pro bowlers?
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Hue was rocking with teh same offensive of talent, dealing with same injuries.. and a 5f 10 corner.. and a a Corner who racked up 18 penalties.
No execuses
January 19th, 2013 at 3:12 pm
MiamiRaider78
I’m in the wait-and-see mode.
Like I’ve said here before, the fact Olson is a power-running, vertical offense and design the offense around your player’s strengths type of coach should have gotten him instant brownie points.
January 19th, 2013 at 3:13 pm
Wow more
A Tampa bay fan on Olsen:
“He runs the most boring and predictable offense of all time. Good luck with that”
January 19th, 2013 at 3:13 pm
If we have another top 5 pick next year which I’m sure we will Reggie and DA need to kick rocks
January 19th, 2013 at 3:13 pm
A good coach maximizes his talent to fit in the right scheme
January 19th, 2013 at 3:14 pm
Hue was rocking with teh same offensive of talent, dealing with same injuries.. and a 5f 10 corner.. and a a Corner who racked up 18 penalties.
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1-5 to finish the season.
No excuses.
January 19th, 2013 at 3:16 pm
This is all bad. More form Buc’s fans:
“I watched Olsen for a few years, as I’m a Bucs fan, and let’s just say nobody was sad to see the guy go. Yet more bad news for Raiders fans.”
January 19th, 2013 at 3:16 pm
RaidO
Raven’s fans on John Harbaugh
“Wait? Our new coach is a guy who was in charge of kickers and punters for 9 years? He had one year experience coaching real football players, cornerbacks, and this is who we give the keys to the Ravens?”
January 19th, 2013 at 3:17 pm
I’m more interested in our FA possibilities and who we draft.
Those things will have a lot more to do with us winning games next year than Olson’s Xs and Os.
Power blocking, vertical passing, no excuses.
January 19th, 2013 at 3:17 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 3:08 pm
Saunders is pushing 67 years old.
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JFB, much of what you say may be true. Yet, there have been a number of posters in the past month or two who have mentioned how “in shape” AS is for man of his age. Now, if it’s true that he’s really in shape, then perhaps he still has the mental energy as well and would want to keep his hand it the game. And if AD, through MD, has made this possible for some/all the reasons I’ve mentioned, I say more power to him.
January 19th, 2013 at 3:18 pm
Do you realize the Raiders hired the QB coach from the second worst record team in the NFL as the OC?
January 19th, 2013 at 3:18 pm
RaidO
49ers fans on Mike McCarthy
“So long, goodbye. Hope the Packers love eating from the 49ers garbage can. Because that is all Mike McCarthy is, trash.”
And how did that turn out?
Not saying Olson will be great right out of the gate, but, he hasn’t even called a single play yet.
January 19th, 2013 at 3:19 pm
Jackasspuria Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 3:16 pm
RaidO
Raven’s fans on John Harbaugh
“Wait? Our new coach is a guy who was in charge of kickers and punters for 9 years? He had one year experience coaching real football players, cornerbacks, and this is who we give the keys to the Ravens?”
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Bad example because Harbaugh was a good ST coach..
January 19th, 2013 at 3:20 pm
RaidO
And the Packers hired the architect of the NFL’s most comical and lousy last-place offense to be head coach — Mike McCarthy.
Not saying Olson is going to be outstanding, but, you have to wait and see.
For all we know Olson could stink. But, for all we know, he could be adequate, as well.
January 19th, 2013 at 3:21 pm
RaidO, I, uh, think we the picture, thanks.
There’s probably some fan on his new team’s blog posting bits from this blog about how Knapp sucked, etc.
January 19th, 2013 at 3:22 pm
Defense will continue their strong play from the end of last yr. Will be even better with stud defensive pick in 1st rd. and FA steals.
Offense will be revitalized with Knapp gone and scheme tailored to player strengths.
Breakout yr. for DMAC and passing game as well.
Special teams bolstered with return game of Ford and better coverage with new special teams coach.
12-4.
January 19th, 2013 at 3:23 pm
EMRaiders Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 6:28 pm
MarcusAllen Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 6:19 pm
Olson info:
Olson previously served as the quarterbacks coach of the Detroit Lions, where he worked with Joey Harrington. He served as Lions offensive coordinator following the firing of Steve Mariucci and the demotion of Ted Tollner during the 2005 season.
He was the offensive coordinator of the St. Louis Rams. During his first season in St. Louis, he did not call the offensive plays for the team until near the end of the year. He developed game plans with head coach Scott Linehan, and worked to develop the offense in general.
Linehan decided to hand over play-calling duties to Olson so that he could manage games better, without having to focus on one side of the ball. Olson was fired after the 2007 season.
In January 2008, Olson was hired by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to be their quarterbacks coach following the dismissal of Paul Hackett. On September 3, 2009, the day before the team’s final preseason game, the Buccaneers announced that Olson would replace Jeff Jagodzinski as Offensive Coordinator.
He was fired on January 2, 2012, after his team posted a 4–12 record.
In January 2012, Olson was hired to be the quarterbacks coach for the Jacksonville Jaguars.
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Let me finish that or “update” that for you…
In January 2013 he was hired to be the Oakland Raiders offensive Coordinator.
And here is a look into the future…
In January of 2014 Olson was fired along with the whole “McKenzie Regime” after the Raiders went 1-15 for the season and owner Mark Davis moved the team to LA, where he hired former Raider HC John “Chucky” Gruden who took the Raiders to their first playoff appearance in 12 years.
The move became known as “The Empire Strikes Back” and the re-hire of Gruden as “Chucky Returns” amongst the greatest fan base in sports anywhere, the Raider Nation.
Oh…. one can only dream…
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This was posted yesterday. we called it a mile away. But, on the other hand, if this keeps going the way we called it, then it’s only one more year until Chucky returns and the Raiders are back in LA! (Only reason I like them in LA is because it is way closer to my home…I know, a bit of a selfish reason…)
January 19th, 2013 at 3:24 pm
Denver may have hired Knapp to coach whoever they draft to replace Manning down the road and not to have anything to do with Payton at all.
January 19th, 2013 at 3:24 pm
DJ Johnny
Offseason roster additions — draft, FA — will be interesting.
DA said Raiders D would be multiple in terms of sets 4-3, 3-4, etc. etc.
Wonder if McKenzie and Co. target more guys to implement more of a 3-4 base look or will Raiders stick to 4-3 base.
January 19th, 2013 at 3:25 pm
Scourge
Elway and Co. say they already have QB of future in Brock Osweiler.
January 19th, 2013 at 3:25 pm
Maybe Olson can bring in FA LaGarrette Blount – 6′0 245 lb beast had 1000 yd season under Olson 2010 perfect big back change of pace to DMAC. He will cost vet minimum. Goodson will not be resigned since we’re moving back to PBS use that money for Blount signing.
January 19th, 2013 at 3:26 pm
EMRaiders
If Gruden does come back, he keeps Olson.
Why?
Gruden hand picked Olson to coach his QBs in Tampa. Greg Olson replaced Paul Hackett under Gruden’s watch.
January 19th, 2013 at 3:28 pm
Ummm….why are we “quoting” other message board commentors?
Do you think Donkey Semi-Pro’s quote Mistic or Priest?
January 19th, 2013 at 3:29 pm
Beeeech! Congrats on the semi-final victory! What’s the word on the final match?
January 19th, 2013 at 3:29 pm
Gruden hand picked Olson to coach his QBs in Tampa. Greg Olson replaced Paul Hackett under Gruden’s watch
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It’s ok if Gruden picks Olson. They “like” Gruden, lol.
January 19th, 2013 at 3:30 pm
Scourge,
By all contacts Al Saunders is in great shape. Hell he is working at age 67, so you got to give that to him.
People just make it seem like he is dying to coach our offense and the organization is holding him back.
I am sure if offered the position he would consider it, it would be a huge pay raise and his last “shot” at things.
But I don’t think he is losing any sleep if they keep him in his current role.
January 19th, 2013 at 3:30 pm
Jackasspuria Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 3:26 pm
EMRaiders
If Gruden does come back, he keeps Olson.
Why?
Gruden hand picked Olson to coach his QBs in Tampa. Greg Olson replaced Paul Hackett under Gruden’s watch.
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And that’s where he belongs. He does seem to have a good QB coach track record. Hey, maybe something good comes out of this, and Pryor learns a thing or two from him!
If Gruden does come back, and if he does keep him, then he will move him to QB coach position. hopefully.
Here’s a thought… what if Gruden is planning on coming back next year, and he told Mark to get the ball rolling by hiring Olson, so that he can begin grooming Pryor, so that when Gruden takes over Pryor will be ready to go. Hmmmmm…..
January 19th, 2013 at 3:32 pm
jackasspuria Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 3:26 pm
EMRaiders
If Gruden does come back, he keeps Olson.
Why?
Gruden hand picked Olson to coach his QBs in Tampa. Greg Olson replaced Paul Hackett under Gruden’s watch.
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Maybe this is all the first influx of the Gruden regime.
Reggie forced DA to hire Olson cuz that’s who Gruden wants. Gruden one of his guys to be at the Senior Bowl in advance of the announcement following the game.
The reason Gruden wasn’t announced already is because he’s wrapping things up with ESPN and finishing the particulars of the contract with the Raiders.
January 19th, 2013 at 3:32 pm
2 all star games on today.
Are these the 4th and 5th rd guys or the UDFAs?
January 19th, 2013 at 3:33 pm
Jack….
Got it but Knapp will be able to work with Osweiler and the 3rd QB more because Peyton won’t need any of Knapp’s attention. If Knapp’s better at QB coaching than OC-ing, then it makes sense (at least to me) in way.
January 19th, 2013 at 3:33 pm
Funny how things work out.
Olson is dismissed by St. Louis and in comes Al Saunders to replace him.
Raiders OC job is open and in comes Olson to find Saunders on staff as well.
January 19th, 2013 at 3:34 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 3:32 pm
jackasspuria Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 3:26 pm
EMRaiders
If Gruden does come back, he keeps Olson.
Why?
Gruden hand picked Olson to coach his QBs in Tampa. Greg Olson replaced Paul Hackett under Gruden’s watch.
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Maybe this is all the first influx of the Gruden regime.
Reggie forced DA to hire Olson cuz that’s who Gruden wants. Gruden one of his guys to be at the Senior Bowl in advance of the announcement following the game.
The reason Gruden wasn’t announced already is because he’s wrapping things up with ESPN and finishing the particulars of the contract with the Raiders.
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DJ, thinking kind of the same thing here, except that I see it happening next year, not this one. But it is fun to speculate on such a move…
January 19th, 2013 at 3:35 pm
JFB..agreed!
January 19th, 2013 at 3:35 pm
Scourge
Exactly. Knapp is there to teach the younger QBs. He will have little to do with Manning in terms of mechanics and advice.
Knapp has long been a great teacher to QBs. Jeff Garcia credited Knapp for helping him and so did Matt Schaub.
In fact, one of the Texans’ beatwriters opined Knapp’s departure would hurt Schaub. Matt did not play as well this year like the season prior with Knapp teaching him.
January 19th, 2013 at 3:35 pm
People are STILL talking about Gruden.
Folks, he ain’t coming back here. There is about 30 better jobs between the NFL and college than us.
He will wait until his top 2-3 choices open up and go there.
He isn’t just “settling” for the Oakland Raiders HC gig.
LOL……..you people
January 19th, 2013 at 3:36 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 3:22 pm
Defense will continue their strong play from the end of last yr. Will be even better with stud defensive pick in 1st rd. and FA steals.
Offense will be revitalized with Knapp gone and scheme tailored to player strengths.
Breakout yr. for DMAC and passing game as well.
Special teams bolstered with return game of Ford and better coverage with new special teams coach.
12-4.
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Huh? DJ are you feeling ok? This is the forum where everyone whines about the suckage we will endure for the next gazillion years. That all is lost. All hope is wasted. Any progress is impossible.
Did you miss the meeting?
January 19th, 2013 at 3:37 pm
1114,
I know. Just having fun. Raiders don’t give us much so we are forced to make stuff up.
January 19th, 2013 at 3:37 pm
Tiger sill needs a caddy, Peyton still needs a QB coach.
Knapp will be doing plenty for Peyton, and have a side project with the Brock kid.
January 19th, 2013 at 3:38 pm
JFB… don’t pi$$ on our Chucky parade man…
With the decision making and hirings going on right now, that is the only thing that keeps us going…lol
January 19th, 2013 at 3:39 pm
JFB,
Curious what job you think Gruden is waiting for?
You better not say the Cowgirls, lol.
Any job “opening up” is going to be a team that is pretty bad. Thus, the job being open, lol.
January 19th, 2013 at 3:40 pm
Maybe Denver hired Knapp to get away from the no-huddle?
Remember that Knapp said it is impossible to run more than a few times a game!
January 19th, 2013 at 3:42 pm
Greg Olson was the QB coach under Gruden for the 2008 season and was hired when Mike Mularkey turned down the original offer to be the OC at the Falcons. The Rams had just fired Olson as OC. Jeff Garcia started 11 games and Brian Griese started 5. They finished 9-7 and missed the playoffs. Gruden was fired and Olson promoted to OC in the new staff.
One year later, Gruden did call out Olson by name publically referring to the friends he still had on the Bucs staff and people he ‘missed’. So maybe he did put a good word in for him through the grapevine but not sure how much DA has any direct connection to Gruden.
Still no ‘official’ acknowledgement from the Raiders of the hire.
January 19th, 2013 at 3:42 pm
1118,
Ha. I know. I can’t just accept looking forward to another lost year just so we can get the number 1 pick in 2014.
IMO it’s not impossible that it goes the way I mentioned.
How many yr’s have we had where we were supposed to be a SB contender and fizzled out? I remember in the 90’s it was like that all the time.
Why can’t it be reversed and go the other way for us?
There IS some talent on this team and with a high pick to add to it and some wise FA pickups? Why not.
January 19th, 2013 at 3:44 pm
John Fox; “So Peyton, we’re thinking about bringing Greg Knapp on board as QB coach. Whaddya think?”
Peyton; “Keep him away from me and we’ll get along just fine.”
January 19th, 2013 at 3:45 pm
Jack, thanks for the responses.
You, too, JFB!
January 19th, 2013 at 3:46 pm
Curious what job you think Gruden is waiting for?
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Something top shelf, like Bellicheck or Saban retiring.
Stuff like that, that is what he will wait for.
January 19th, 2013 at 3:47 pm
Most NFL teams would post the announcement signing of the Offensive Coordinator in their official website.
Raiders.com has instead highlighted :
Raider Nation – The Pet Delegation (pets in Raider gear)
Raider Nation – The Next Generation (babies in Raider gear)
January 19th, 2013 at 3:48 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 3:35 pm
People are STILL talking about Gruden.
Folks, he ain’t coming back here. There is about 30 better jobs between the NFL and college than us.
He will wait until his top 2-3 choices open up and go there.
He isn’t just “settling” for the Oakland Raiders HC gig.
LOL……..you people
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He isn’t settling. He would come here cuz he has a good relationship with Al’s family & he knows they will give him what he wants. What did he tell Luire? “I’m not coming back THIS year.”
2014…the return of Gruden.
January 19th, 2013 at 3:48 pm
Pets in Raider gear???
Man, I got to send them some photo’s of my morkie in her Raiders sweater, lol.
January 19th, 2013 at 3:51 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 8:24 am
Charlie,
Falcons invested just about every resource into their QB-WR-TE combo.
How’s that working for them?
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2013 Free Agent WR’s
Wide Receivers
Dwayne Bowe
Mike Wallace
Greg Jennings
Wes Welker
Danny Amendola
Brian Hartline
Julian Edelman
Donnie Avery
Terrell Owens
Jerome Simpson
Kevin Ogletree
Randy Moss
Braylon Edwards
Donald Driver
Austin Collie
Josh Cribbs
Domenik Hixon
Ramses Barden
Jabar Gaffney
Brandon Stokley
Brandon Gibson
Plaxico Burress
Mohamed Massaquoi
Johnny Knox
Chad Johnson
Deion Branch
Mark Clayton
Donte’ Stallworth
Brandon Tate
Ted Ginn
Devery Henderson
Louis Murphy
Derek Hagan
Chaz Schilens
Sammie Stroughter
Steve Smith (STL)
Devin Aromashodu
Adrian Arrington
Courtney Roby
Jason Hill
Greg Camarillo
Kassim Osgood
Roscoe Parrish
Big Mike Williams
Lee Evans
Micheal Spurlock
Mike Sims-Walker
Legedu Naanee
Ruvell Martin
Legedu Naanee
2013 Free Agent TE’s
Tony Gonzalez
Fred Davis
Dustin Keller
Jared Cook
Martellus Bennett
Brandon Myers
James Casey
Dallas Clark
Ben Watson
Anthony Fasano
Delanie Walker
Kellen Winslow
Todd Heap
Jeremy Shockey
Visanthe Shiancoe
Chris Cooley
Dante Rosario
Travis Beckum
Alex Smith
Cameron Morrah
Leonard Pope
Billy Bajema
Gary Barnidge
John Phillips
Will Heller
January 19th, 2013 at 3:52 pm
Raiders are gonna surprise.
It will be discovered just how devastating Knapp was to the offense.
The D will continue to play like they did at the end of the season…only better with the addition of a couple good FA’s and a stud lineman we get at # 3.
January 19th, 2013 at 3:54 pm
Jared Cook would be a great, fairly inexpensive TE.
Bennett as well, although he seems too much of a horses azz for DA and The Reggie.
WR….it is all about Gregg Jennings. He went kind of Hollywood last offseason, would probably welcome a move to California.
We would probably have to overpay him, and the last 2 years of his contract would be out of whack, but we need that impact WR.
January 19th, 2013 at 3:56 pm
CDERaider Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 3:47 pm
Most NFL teams would post the announcement signing of the Offensive Coordinator in their official website.
Raiders.com has instead highlighted :
Raider Nation – The Pet Delegation (pets in Raider gear)
Raider Nation – The Next Generation (babies in Raider gear)
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I hope we don’t find out Olson turned it down after all and DA goes with a ZBS Knapp “disciple”.
January 19th, 2013 at 3:57 pm
If Gruden is getting anyone to set things up for him in 2014, it’s Jerry Jones.
Monte Kiffin running the D, Jadon Garret as the lame duck.
January 19th, 2013 at 3:57 pm
Is Josh Cribbs still a great return man? I wouldn’t mind having him if he can solidify that aspect. Signing him and Bowe/Jennings would be cool if that is so.
January 19th, 2013 at 3:58 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 3:54 pm
Jared Cook would be a great, fairly inexpensive TE.
Bennett as well, although he seems too much of a horses azz for DA and The Reggie.
WR….it is all about Gregg Jennings. He went kind of Hollywood last offseason, would probably welcome a move to California.
We would probably have to overpay him, and the last 2 years of his contract would be out of whack, but we need that impact WR.
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My only issue with Jennings is he is always injured.
January 19th, 2013 at 4:01 pm
Yeah, I’m having Javon Walker flashbacks….
January 19th, 2013 at 4:02 pm
Patriots job would not go to Gruden, lol.
Gruden is not going to college.
He could have had Tenn, Florida, or USC if that was the case.
January 19th, 2013 at 4:03 pm
If Al was still here Jared Cook would have already bought a house in the Oakland area. Speed speed speed.
January 19th, 2013 at 4:03 pm
Joeckel or Warmack, a wave of the future TE in rd 3, sign Bowe or Wallace at WR.
January 19th, 2013 at 4:03 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 3:42 pm
1118,
Ha. I know. I can’t just accept looking forward to another lost year just so we can get the number 1 pick in 2014.
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Not looking forward to losing at all. Just trying to find something *real* to be positive about. I would love to see the team have a big season *this* year. But with every move that’s happened since Jan 2012, it’s very clear this its all about burn it down and rebuild it. Personally I didn’t agree with it but its past the point of no return and Reggie has been *very clear* about it several times now publically.
Getting rid of the bad contracts and unperforming players, fixing the cap and building with solid young players with sound contracts *is* progress and is winning the battle that has to be fought. 2014 *is* something to look forward to. If they can do this thing right (and get a capable staff together), the winning will come.
And by 2014, the planets might very well be aligned for the Death Star to return.
January 19th, 2013 at 4:05 pm
Jennings is there when you need him.
He hasn’t missed THAT many games his career, this was his first season with some real injuries, but he was there at the end of the season catching TD’s.
January 19th, 2013 at 4:07 pm
Warmack for Reggie Mac!
January 19th, 2013 at 4:07 pm
Either way, if not Jennings, you get the point.
We need one of THOSE guys out wide.
Maybe Al can back in the form of The Gut and trade for Dez Bryant?
January 19th, 2013 at 4:08 pm
“And by 2014, the planets might very well be aligned for the Death Star to return.”
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Very nice! Will go great with the whole “The Empire Strikes Back” theme for 2014.
January 19th, 2013 at 4:08 pm
I’d prefer Wallace’s deep threat, JFB.
Streater and Criner can work the short to mid range stuff.
January 19th, 2013 at 4:10 pm
From Walterfootballdotcom
Jan. 19 Updates
Raiders hire OC Greg Olson: A Grade
I’m not sure if most people know a lot about Greg Olson, but he did a great job with Josh Freeman in 2010 and then made the most out of Chad Henne last year as the quarterbacks’ coach. He’s a very good hire for the Raiders.
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Hope they are right!
January 19th, 2013 at 4:10 pm
I wonder if Chicago would trade their entire draft if Joeckel is there?
Would Philly give up a #2 to move up 1 spot?
January 19th, 2013 at 4:12 pm
Streater and Criner can work the short to mid range stuff.
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Can they though?
When the going gets tough, you need a 3rd and 9 to extend a crucial drive, I want someone who has done it before. On a huge stage.
Our best 3rd and 9 options is to hope Palmer hangs out someone to dry over the middle, he gets creamed and we get a hit on a defenseless reciever penalty.
And it ain’t because of our RT!!!
January 19th, 2013 at 4:13 pm
Would Philly give up a #2 to move up 1 spot?
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No way I would think.
Last year Minny went from #3 to #4 and got a 4th and a 6th from Cleveland.
Which, I would certainly be all for.
January 19th, 2013 at 4:14 pm
Can they though?
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I don’t see why not.
January 19th, 2013 at 4:17 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 3:52 pm
Raiders are gonna surprise.
It will be discovered just how devastating Knapp was to the offense.
The D will continue to play like they did at the end of the season…only better with the addition of a couple good FA’s and a stud lineman we get at # 3.
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i’m glad that some people’s panties aren’t all in a twist.
dude develops quarterbacks, and he got Chad Henne to play better than he ever has.
and some idiot poster on here was trying to claim that this hire is proof that DA is tryna hate on TP…
January 19th, 2013 at 4:17 pm
Moore, Streater, Criner, Ford.
Decent group of WRs, JFB.
Once you add a Wallace/Bowe/Jennings type guy, could be special.
January 19th, 2013 at 4:18 pm
So if we pick up one of those top FA WRs, which WR currently on the roster would we drop?
DHB
Moore
Ford
Criner
Streater
Or would we carry 6?
By the way… I did see names like Chaz Schillens, Louis Murphy, and dare I say it… Randy Moss on that list of FAs….lol
January 19th, 2013 at 4:22 pm
According to the San Francisco Chronicle, WR Darrius Heyward-Bey and DT Tommy Kelly are candidates to be released by the Raiders in a salary cap crunch.
Due a prohibitive $7.72 million while coming off concussion and hamstring injuries in 2012, DHB has very little trade value. It’s the same story for Kelly at $6.5 million. Already close to the 2013 salary cap limit of $121 million, the Raiders will have to make tough cuts this offseason. Jan 4 – 12:14 PM
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Kelly and Seymour gone???
Star is the pick, lol.
SMH
January 19th, 2013 at 4:25 pm
Hey JFB, hows that oline working out for Ben now? Now that the D is getting old and they have failed to address the oline where is Pitt heading? looks like their trending down to me. And dont get it twisted Pitt won those SB on the backs of their D. Same can be said for CHI, Cutler is an injury waiting to happen behind that line and there D is also getting long in the tooth thus their window of opportunity is closing and they have a solid core of skill players but the foundation is missing and they are no longer able to just win with D.
January 19th, 2013 at 4:26 pm
DHB would be gone.
Incredibly inconsistent hands, and the catches he has made were basic ones that any of the other guys on the unit can make for millions less.
January 19th, 2013 at 4:26 pm
EMRaiders Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 4:18 pm
So if we pick up one of those top FA WRs, which WR currently on the roster would we drop?
DHB
Moore
Ford
Criner
Streater
Or would we carry 6?
By the way… I did see names like Chaz Schillens, Louis Murphy, and dare I say it… Randy Moss on that list of FAs….lol
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Teams usually carry 6 these days.
But yeah, let DHB, Moore, Streater, Ford, Criner, Hagan and any other FAs and/or rookies compete for the final 5 spots.
January 19th, 2013 at 4:28 pm
what was the record of the Bears O-line with and without Cutler?
You can’t win squat with a great O-line/D-line and no QBs/WRs. All about skill players.
Ask the Singletary 49ers and the current Chiefs.
January 19th, 2013 at 4:28 pm
Nobody will argue against DHB being overpaid, but I’d still love to have him on the team at a reasonable price. Or at least compete for a spot.
January 19th, 2013 at 4:29 pm
CDE
Blount is the opposite character of what new Raiders want. He was constantly late to practices and not much of a team player, thus the drafting of Doug Martin in round 1 despite Blount’s 1,000 yard season.
January 19th, 2013 at 4:34 pm
smart, rational long-term view.
Q: The ‘you can make anything work out’ seemed to be the philosophy here for a long time. And obviously you could do that too if you wished, but you choose to go in a different direction. What are the advantages of the way you want to do it?
McKenzie: “I’m looking for the future. We’re trying to build something here. And with building, you can’t mortgage the future in doing that. So we’re trying to lay down a good foundation, get the core players that we’ve seen can build this team the right way and make good, sound decisions, be it financial, the personnel, …
We’re not trying to hurry up to win one or two [more] games and mortgage the possibility of winning 10 more, you know what I’m saying? We’re just going to build it the right way, make good, sound decisions.”
January 19th, 2013 at 4:34 pm
Alex7 Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 4:28 pm
what was the record of the Bears O-line with and without Cutler?
You can’t win squat with a great O-line/D-line and no QBs/WRs. All about skill players.
Ask the Singletary 49ers and the current Chiefs.
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The Bears O-Line has been terrible for the past several years.
The 9ers spent high picks on O-Line and D-Line making that the strength of the team.
You need both to be a really good team. To argue the importance of one over the other is inconsequential. You NEED a QB. You NEED to keep him standing. You NEED to have someone else on the field to make plays with the QB.
January 19th, 2013 at 4:37 pm
Pitt and Chi have plenty of skill players and they are at home, and it cost Lovie his job as he failed to adress the oline problem you can be assured Trestman will be on it ASAP, Tomlin will also be on his way out soon if he fails to address his oline problems.
January 19th, 2013 at 4:38 pm
Per suggestion from a Bleacher article, Reggie could get our 2nd round pick back from the Bengals in a 1st round swap (they pick 21st overall) plus their 4th and 5th and a 2nd in 2014. Bengals still get a better overall value (according to draft value chart) *but* we pick up our missing 2013 picks giving us 3 picks in the top 67 pick. The extra 4th rounder bundled with the 2014 2nd round pick we could then use to trade up in the mid 3rd round to get even another pick. That’s 4 players in the top 85. We could take target players at the ‘big 4′ needs : CB, OT, DT, DE/OLB. We’d still have a 4th, 5th, 6th, two 7ths, and whatever comp (probably 2) picks left to fill in the rest. OG, CB, TE, ILB, DE/OLB, WR, RB
Bengals are a trade target because they are in that ‘1-2 players away mode’ from taking the next step and have extra picks this year to deal with. They might bite to have an elite DE like Bjorne Werner on their team.
January 19th, 2013 at 4:39 pm
why are Big Ben and Cutler hurt so much? hmmm.
January 19th, 2013 at 4:39 pm
Alex7 Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 4:29 pm
CDE
Blount is the opposite character of what new Raiders want. He was constantly late to practices and not much of a team player, thus the drafting of Doug Martin in round 1 despite Blount’s 1,000 yard season.
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Blount’s pass protection and catching abilities are questionable at best. He’s an athlete with power who can make some mind blowing plays from time to time, but he’s not a guy you want being THE guy.
January 19th, 2013 at 4:41 pm
RediaR Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 4:34 pm
Alex7 Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 4:28 pm
what was the record of the Bears O-line with and without Cutler?
You can’t win squat with a great O-line/D-line and no QBs/WRs. All about skill players.
Ask the Singletary 49ers and the current Chiefs.
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The Bears O-Line has been terrible for the past several years.
The 9ers spent high picks on O-Line and D-Line making that the strength of the team.
You need both to be a really good team. To argue the importance of one over the other is inconsequential. You NEED a QB. You NEED to keep him standing. You NEED to have someone else on the field to make plays with the QB.
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No Oline you will have hurt QB’S like Ben and Jay.
January 19th, 2013 at 4:42 pm
alex7 Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 4:29 pm
CDE
Blount is the opposite character of what new Raiders want. He was constantly late to practices and not much of a team player, thus the drafting of Doug Martin in round 1 despite Blount’s 1,000 yard season.
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Could be right, but we need a tough-running big back behind DMAC – was a huge missing element this year and since Olson has history with Blount and he’s still young and available cheaply, worth giving a shot. He looked pretty bad azz in 2010 and maybe a move to west coast helps ala Marshawn Lynch.
Maybe Peyton Hillis is another option but he’s def more $$…
January 19th, 2013 at 4:44 pm
It was kinda fun while it lasted DHB, Kelly.
January 19th, 2013 at 4:44 pm
CDERaider Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 4:38 pm
Per suggestion from a Bleacher article, Reggie could get our 2nd round pick back from the Bengals in a 1st round swap (they pick 21st overall) plus their 4th and 5th and a 2nd in 2014. Bengals still get a better overall value (according to draft value chart) *but* we pick up our missing 2013 picks giving us 3 picks in the top 67 pick. The extra 4th rounder bundled with the 2014 2nd round pick we could then use to trade up in the mid 3rd round to get even another pick. That’s 4 players in the top 85. We could take target players at the ‘big 4′ needs : CB, OT, DT, DE/OLB. We’d still have a 4th, 5th, 6th, two 7ths, and whatever comp (probably 2) picks left to fill in the rest. OG, CB, TE, ILB, DE/OLB, WR, RB
Bengals are a trade target because they are in that ‘1-2 players away mode’ from taking the next step and have extra picks this year to deal with. They might bite to have an elite DE like Bjorne Werner on their team.
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I’d rather have Joekel, Warmack, Star (even though I’m not totally sold) or pass rusher dejour honestly.
January 19th, 2013 at 4:45 pm
Personally I like dustin keller at a reasonable price, good hands needs to stay healthy.
No way gruden goes to dallas he would be in cat fight with jones in a week, power and control
January 19th, 2013 at 4:46 pm
CDERaider Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 4:03 pm
[snippage] And by 2014, the planets might very well be aligned for the Death Star to return.
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https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/response/isnt-petition-response-youre-looking
January 19th, 2013 at 4:47 pm
I liked jarvis jones, but I am really liking werner, no to Geno!
January 19th, 2013 at 4:48 pm
J Hill Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 1:49 pm
.trade bergstrom for another 3rd round pick and start over again
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If he’s good enough to bring back a 3rd rd pick, we might as well keep him.
We had a team full of ZBS specialist before Wylie got here and we didn’t have to make any changes.
If you can block, you can block.
Bergstrom is 315lbs. He should be fine at LG.
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in 08/09 when we were running ZBS we had the likes of mario henderson, kwami harris, robert gallery paul mcq chris morris, carle cornell green, grove
when al davis inserted hue as OC the transformation began with big book end OT’s with veldeer and langston walker….immediate upgrade to running attack with mcfadden and bush….also switched center to salelle
then next year we got rid of galler in favor of wiz
to say there was no problem switching to power run scheme with ZBS skilled OL is completely false
January 19th, 2013 at 4:49 pm
I think next season may be mediocre at best, team cap issues, and clean out rest of deadwood and allen can keep the seat warm for a gruden return
January 19th, 2013 at 4:49 pm
Say no to Geno!
Warmack for RegMac!
Trade Back for Warmack!
January 19th, 2013 at 4:50 pm
Bergstrom for a 3rd rounder is wishful thinking.
Where is dr. Robert want to here him extol the greatness of matt schaub, top 10 qb.
January 19th, 2013 at 4:52 pm
I like brandt, but you got to be kidding with geno smith as a top pick for us, I would cry like when we selected dhb number 1
January 19th, 2013 at 4:54 pm
If Joeckel is there at #3 you have got to take him. If not….
Take geno and cut Palmer.
January 19th, 2013 at 4:55 pm
RediaR Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 4:49 pm
Say no to Geno!
Warmack for RegMac!
Trade Back for Warmack!
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Even if you cant trade back still draft Warmack!
January 19th, 2013 at 4:56 pm
If you watched Geno vs. Oklahoma, you would know that the kid is for real.
Oklahome had one of the best coverage units it college football last season.
January 19th, 2013 at 4:57 pm
No to Geno period!
January 19th, 2013 at 4:57 pm
Geno hung 40+ on them.
January 19th, 2013 at 4:57 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 4:57 pm
No to Geno period!
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Fair enough, I say Geno all day….
January 19th, 2013 at 4:58 pm
Otto.
Gallery was a FA. We offered him 3 million to return.
We drafted Veldheer when Tom Cable was still the HC. We passed on Iupati, Davis, and others at LT because Veldheer was one of those later round athletic guys.
Barnes and Carlisle were on the right side of our OL under Cable and continued under Hue.
Totally false????
January 19th, 2013 at 4:59 pm
Raider E Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 4:54 pm
If Joeckel, Warmack, Werner, Moore, Star, Milner, Jordan, Mingo or Allen is there at #3 you have got to take him. If not….
Take geno and cut Palmer.
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Fixed
January 19th, 2013 at 5:00 pm
Raider E Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 4:56 pm
If you watched Geno vs. Oklahoma, you would know that the kid is for real.
Oklahome had one of the best coverage units it college football last season.
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If he’s all that kc or jags would take him right?
January 19th, 2013 at 5:01 pm
Raider E Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 4:56 pm
If you watched Geno vs. Oklahoma, you would know that the kid is for real.
Oklahome had one of the best coverage units it college football last season.
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I hope Reggie does his scouting by looking at more than one game.
January 19th, 2013 at 5:05 pm
Oh no, Brandt is trying to play off Barkley as a worthy top 10 pick now. I thought we were done with that nonsense.
January 19th, 2013 at 5:07 pm
RediaR Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 4:44 pm
CDERaider Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 4:38 pm
Per suggestion from a Bleacher article, Reggie could get our 2nd round pick back …
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I’d rather have Joekel, Warmack, Star (even though I’m not totally sold) or pass rusher dejour honestly.
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I like those guys too, but wouldn’t you trade that pick for trade haul like?
(Pick 21) Xavier Rhohdes CB , Florida State
(Pick 35) Margus Hunt, DE, SMU
(Pick 85) Kwame Geathers, DT, Georgia
In return for #3 pick, we get an elite CB, a freakish DE, a productive mauler at DT and as for the future RT pick we take
(pick 67) Kyle Long OT using our 3rd pick
Anyway, its all conjecture at this point but its interesting to see how Reggie could trade down to get extra picks when we currently only have 5 picks and see what might be available.
January 19th, 2013 at 5:08 pm
My wish list is in this order (depending on whose avail)
1. Joekel
2. Warmack
3. Geno
I’m cool with trading down ONLY if we still end up one of these three.
Under no circumstances do I want us to pick a high-risk “can’t miss” defensive player that is statistically a 50/50 shot at being a BUST.
The chances of a lineman being a bust is a lot less, and a QB is worth a third overall because his upside can be so high (even though they bust at 50% also.)
Reggie absolutely HAS to nail this pick.
January 19th, 2013 at 5:08 pm
I guess you guys don’t like Geno? lol….
Talk to me next Jan. after Carson’s int’s cost us another 3 games?
Oh yeah, Pryor? Get real….
January 19th, 2013 at 5:09 pm
when al davis inserted hue as OC the transformation began with big book end OT’s with veldeer and langston walker….immediate upgrade to running attack with mcfadden and bush….also switched center to salelle
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Satele was brought in PRIOR to Hue coming on board.
Barnes was brought in PRIOR to Hue getting here and he ended up starting for Hue.
Either you can block or you can’t.
January 19th, 2013 at 5:09 pm
Star’s first step is slow, and I witnessed him jogging ala McClain a dozen times.
Anybody but Star….
January 19th, 2013 at 5:10 pm
If he’s all that kc or jags would take him right?
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Right.
January 19th, 2013 at 5:11 pm
rediaR Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 5:05 pm
Oh no, Brandt is trying to play off Barkley as a worthy top 10 pick now. I thought we were done with that nonsense.
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College success or failure isn’t exactly a great indicator of how well a QB does in the NFL for some reason.
If you need a QB, you roll the dice… the upside is too high not to.
January 19th, 2013 at 5:12 pm
rediaR Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 4:59 pm
Raider E Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 4:54 pm
If Joeckel, Warmack, Werner, Moore, Star, Milner, Jordan, Mingo or Allen is there at #3 you have got to take him. If not….
Take geno and cut Palmer.
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You *can’t* cut Palmer – its a $17 million cap hit if you trade or cut him in 2013. He ain’t going anywhere. If Reggie takes Geno, we only pick 4 more times in the entire draft and we won’t pick again till the 3rd round. Geno will then require a big time contract as the top QB taken in the top 5 and he we still have Palmers huge salary in 2013. Makes absolutely no sense. Palmer is also still under contract in 2014 btw – so just *cutting him* is not an option with a team over the cap and with so many holes. Ain’t gonna happen.
January 19th, 2013 at 5:12 pm
I doubt we get a chance to draft Joeckel but Warmack will for sure be there.
Veldeer, Warmack, Wiz, is a good way to start off your line hopefully we can find a RT later but it sounds to me that Reggie is fond of Barnes.
January 19th, 2013 at 5:14 pm
So now it’s Olson for OC, April for ST, now who’s LB and OL?
January 19th, 2013 at 5:16 pm
Watching the bowl games, Werner and Mingo looked dominant.
Moore and Jones looked just OK, imo.
I’d prefer to trade down and take either of those guys if we go DE.
January 19th, 2013 at 5:16 pm
Geno Smith is the next Jason Campbell
Matt Barkeley is the next Jimmy Clausen (remember Mel Kiper hyping him in the 2010 draft)
January 19th, 2013 at 5:17 pm
Barnes can’t block Von Miller 1 on 1 and gets about 5 false start penalties per year.
He’s decent at RT.
January 19th, 2013 at 5:18 pm
eastoaklandraider Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 5:12 pm
I doubt we get a chance to draft Joeckel but Warmack will for sure be there.
Veldeer, Warmack, Wiz, is a good way to start off your line hopefully we can find a RT later but it sounds to me that Reggie is fond of Barnes.
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Because he was rated 4th in the NFL at RT in 2011. We slipped to 19th this year while he was out. (Smith was horrible)
I do like the sound of Veldeer, Warmack, Wiz together.
January 19th, 2013 at 5:19 pm
#Raiders announce Bobby April hired as special teams coach
January 19th, 2013 at 5:19 pm
I do like the sound of Veldeer, Warmack, Wiz together.
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How can you not like that?
January 19th, 2013 at 5:20 pm
J Hill Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 4:58 pm
Otto.
Gallery was a FA. We offered him 3 million to return.
We drafted Veldheer when Tom Cable was still the HC. We passed on Iupati, Davis, and others at LT because Veldheer was one of those later round athletic guys.
Barnes and Carlisle were on the right side of our OL under Cable and continued under Hue.
Totally false????
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first…gallery was asking for 8M/year…and we offered 2.5….he signed a 3yr/15M contract with the hawks
yes …we drafted veldeer when cable was coach….but davis already inserted hue to run the entire O and the OL changed with massive OT’s….that resulted in our first 8-8 season
barnes are carlisle were on the right side…but two points…..barnes was still a big power OT….he was not great at ZBS then and he wasnt last year,,,,,,also barnes was a backup to walker
why would you want bergstrom in a power scheme if the scouting report on him is he is not strong but a better technique guy….if we were sticking with ZBS then i would say fine…hope he’s the starter
January 19th, 2013 at 5:21 pm
CDERaider Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 5:07 pm
RediaR Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 4:44 pm
CDERaider Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 4:38 pm
Per suggestion from a Bleacher article, Reggie could get our 2nd round pick back …
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I’d rather have Joekel, Warmack, Star (even though I’m not totally sold) or pass rusher dejour honestly.
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I like those guys too, but wouldn’t you trade that pick for trade haul like?
(Pick 21) Xavier Rhohdes CB , Florida State
(Pick 35) Margus Hunt, DE, SMU
(Pick 85) Kwame Geathers, DT, Georgia
In return for #3 pick, we get an elite CB, a freakish DE, a productive mauler at DT and as for the future RT pick we take
(pick 67) Kyle Long OT using our 3rd pick
Anyway, its all conjecture at this point but its interesting to see how Reggie could trade down to get extra picks when we currently only have 5 picks and see what might be available.
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I’ve seen Rhodes projected in the second a few places. If we could trade back to 8 or 9 with for the Bills/Jets 2nd and some other picks I think I’d rather do that.
(Pick
Warmack
(Pick 41) Rhodes
(Pick 67) Long
+the picks we have and the other picks we get. I would love that.
January 19th, 2013 at 5:24 pm
CDERaider Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 5:07 pm
RediaR Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 4:44 pm
CDERaider Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 4:38 pm
Per suggestion from a Bleacher article, Reggie could get our 2nd round pick back …
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I’d rather have Joekel, Warmack, Star (even though I’m not totally sold) or pass rusher dejour honestly.
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I like those guys too, but wouldn’t you trade that pick for trade haul like?
(Pick 21) Xavier Rhohdes CB , Florida State
(Pick 35) Margus Hunt, DE, SMU
(Pick 85) Kwame Geathers, DT, Georgia
In return for #3 pick, we get an elite CB, a freakish DE, a productive mauler at DT and as for the future RT pick we take
(pick 67) Kyle Long OT using our 3rd pick
Anyway, its all conjecture at this point but its interesting to see how Reggie could trade down to get extra picks when we currently only have 5 picks and see what might be available.
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1st round
3rd
4th
4th (comp)
6th
6th (comp)
6th (comp)
6th (comp)
7th
7th
January 19th, 2013 at 5:24 pm
CDERaider Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 5:12 pm
You *can’t* cut Palmer – its a $17 million cap hit if you trade or cut him in 2013. He ain’t going anywhere. If Reggie takes Geno, we only pick 4 more times in the entire draft and we won’t pick again till the 3rd round. Geno will then require a big time contract as the top QB taken in the top 5 and he we still have Palmers huge salary in 2013. Makes absolutely no sense. Palmer is also still under contract in 2014 btw – so just *cutting him* is not an option with a team over the cap and with so many holes. Ain’t gonna happen.
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CP is here for one more year. Two if he makes the playoffs. Beyond that I don’t trust Pryor. If Geno is the guy we get him now while we have this low of a pick and let him sit for a year or two.
It depends on what our scouts say.
And I think rookies have a cap for signing.
January 19th, 2013 at 5:26 pm
I don’t “want” Bergstrom to play RG, but McKenzie seems to like him and he played well in the last game against SD. We’ve been employing some power blocking in our scheme since week 4. So if the GM is pumping him up and he’s much cheap than Briesel, just connecting the dots.
315lb former LTs should be able to play OG with no problem.
January 19th, 2013 at 5:26 pm
J Hill Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 4:58 pm
Otto.
Gallery was a FA. We offered him 3 million to return.
We drafted Veldheer when Tom Cable was still the HC. We passed on Iupati, Davis, and others at LT because Veldheer was one of those later round athletic guys.
Barnes and Carlisle were on the right side of our OL under Cable and continued under Hue.
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Yeah, and I think that Cable had a hand in finding Veldheer at the little known school of Hillsdale.
January 19th, 2013 at 5:27 pm
The Raiders interviewed Trestman and hired Olson. Why? Because they both were OC’s under Gruden, and he will return to the Raiders within the next two years. Book it.
January 19th, 2013 at 5:27 pm
Gdog Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 5:11 pm
rediaR Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 5:05 pm
Oh no, Brandt is trying to play off Barkley as a worthy top 10 pick now. I thought we were done with that nonsense.
>>>>>
College success or failure isn’t exactly a great indicator of how well a QB does in the NFL for some reason.
If you need a QB, you roll the dice… the upside is too high not to.
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I’ve seen him play plenty of times both live and on TV. The success he has had has been largely on the back of the defense, Marquise Lee (top 10 pick next year if healthy/out of trouble) and the O-Line. He’s Matt Leinart with a worse overall team.
January 19th, 2013 at 5:29 pm
Why is this Teo girlfriend story getting so much pub???
Days later, who gives a phucc, ESPN????
January 19th, 2013 at 5:29 pm
arena of truth Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 5:27 pm
The Raiders interviewed Trestman and hired Olson. Why?
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Because Trestman didn’t want to come here.
January 19th, 2013 at 5:29 pm
you dont pick a guard in the first 15 picks of the draft….you just dont
we need DT, rush end/olb, cb at #3
warmack reminds me a mo collins….excellent OL who ate himself out of the league
i wanted vince wolfork…didnt get him…..i wanted ngata…didnt get him…….give me STAR
January 19th, 2013 at 5:30 pm
lol….week 4 oh sh!t…week 4…bwahahahahaha…
January 19th, 2013 at 5:30 pm
rediaR Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 5:21 pm
I’ve seen Rhodes projected in the second a few places. If we could trade back to 8 or 9 with for the Bills/Jets 2nd and some other picks I think I’d rather do that.
(Pick 8 ) Warmack
(Pick 41) Rhodes
(Pick 67) Long
+the picks we have and the other picks we get. I would love that.
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Warmack is a stud for sure would be a great pick. Fixes the left side for sure. Put Kyle Long at RT and Bergstrom at RG and the line is settled. Use the rest of the draft for Defense.
January 19th, 2013 at 5:30 pm
Arena Of Truth Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 5:27 pm
The Raiders interviewed Trestman and hired Olson. Why? Because they both were OC’s under Gruden, and he will return to the Raiders within the next two years. Book it.
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Gruden’s not coming back, and nobody wants to see his overrated 57-55 @ss here anyway.
January 19th, 2013 at 5:31 pm
Veldy-Warmack-Wiz-Bergs/Breis/FA-Long
That is a potentially top 5 line for years to come.
January 19th, 2013 at 5:32 pm
Teo should just shut the hell up.
Stop talking already.
The guy is either the most naive person on the planet or the biggest liar on the planet.
Teo is starting to make McClain look mature.
January 19th, 2013 at 5:33 pm
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Yeah, and I think that Cable had a hand in finding Veldheer at the little known school of Hillsdale.
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cable didnt find veldheer at hillsdale……that wasnt his job……thats what scouts are for……and besides…who thinks davis let cable make decisions in the draft
January 19th, 2013 at 5:34 pm
arena of truth Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 5:27 pm
The Raiders interviewed Trestman and hired Olson. Why?
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Because Trestman didn’t want to come here.
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2nd choice but they both were brought in and after DA gets canned Gruden will have a coordinator he is familiar with, with draft pics,under the cap and a large say in the organization.
January 19th, 2013 at 5:34 pm
Why is this Teo girlfriend story getting so much pub???
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Because it was a media story to begin with, now a media hoax.
Forgot ESPN, Greta Van Susteren had her whole show dedicated to it yesterday.
January 19th, 2013 at 5:34 pm
rediaR Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 5:27 pm
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I’ve seen him play plenty of times both live and on TV. The success he has had has been largely on the back of the defense, Marquise Lee (top 10 pick next year if healthy/out of trouble) and the O-Line. He’s Matt Leinart with a worse overall team.
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Sorry, but IMO fans are the worst to judge how a QB will turn out in the NFL. Its SUCH a different game. Scouts usually pay more attention to mechanics than anything else.
Doesn’t this sound tempting to you?
Throwing Mechanics: One of the top facets of Smith’s game in his ability to throw at multiple arm angles. This is an underrated skill at the next level. QB’s have to be able to adjust their arm angle or pass rushers will bat a ton of balls down (See: Brandon Weeden). He possesses a nice, compact throwing motion that allows for a catchable ball. He is a natural athlete that shows up in his feet during the throwing motion. He’s a natural knee bender that allows for a balanced setup to throwing the ball. It’s tough finding negative aspects about Smith’s mechanics.
January 19th, 2013 at 5:37 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 3:28 pm
Ummm….why are we “quoting” other message board commentors?
Do you think Donkey Semi-Pro’s quote Mistic or Priest?
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No but the other day I went on there and they were quoting
Oakfoshow and KK and Beach Dawg
January 19th, 2013 at 5:38 pm
These NFL coaches all belong to a club.
It’s tough breaking into that club which is why Allen has so much trouble getting established coaches.
They all worry about their careers and so they won’t go to any place where their future is incertain.
And let’s face it, in Oakland it is uncertain.
The guys in the club hire and fire each other and always give glowing recommendations to either the guy that they fired or the guy that they hired.
January 19th, 2013 at 5:42 pm
00tt00 Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 5:33 pm
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Yeah, and I think that Cable had a hand in finding Veldheer at the little known school of Hillsdale.
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cable didnt find veldheer at hillsdale……that wasnt his job……thats what scouts are for……and besides…who thinks davis let cable make decisions in the draft
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That wasn’t his job? He was the head coach.
I think you’re wrong and I think that Cable was fairly familiar with Hillsdale.
In any event, Veldheer came during Cable’s time and not after Hue got here.
January 19th, 2013 at 5:45 pm
arena of truth Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 5:34 pm
arena of truth Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 5:27 pm
The Raiders interviewed Trestman and hired Olson. Why?
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Because Trestman didn’t want to come here.
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2nd choice but they both were brought in and after DA gets canned Gruden will have a coordinator he is familiar with, with draft pics,under the cap and a large say in the organization
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None of them want come here right now.
Which is why McKenzie ended up hiring Allen.
It is interesting that someone on the Raiders has been seeking the counsel of Gruden lately.
I think that someone has to be Mark Davis.
January 19th, 2013 at 5:46 pm
I really, really, really hate it when you go to the barber to get your hair cut and when you leave you all those little hairs down your back and chest! No matter how much vacuuming they do! Those little f*ckers itch! They oughta invent adhesive barber’s tape to put around your neck at top of shirt to keep those hairs away. Adhesive wouldn’t need to be too sticky, Just enough to seal your shirt to your skin. I always have to come immediately and shower. It’s a freakin’ pain in the posterior! What gets me is that I don’t have that much hair left to cut.
Here endeth the rant for the day.
Thanks for letting me vent!
January 19th, 2013 at 5:48 pm
do you think cable flew to michigan for the saturday games and flew back to oakland to coach on sunday……the scouts find the prospects and create a portfolio for the coaches to evaluate leading up to the draft….
and again….since your on this board i figure your a raider fan……..do you think cable drafted veldeer or al davis…..we all know the answer here……if cable said he loved him or hated him it really didnt matter……it was AL’s selection
January 19th, 2013 at 5:48 pm
*come home immediately
January 19th, 2013 at 5:52 pm
rediaR Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 4:28 pm
Nobody will argue against DHB being overpaid, but I’d still love to have him on the team at a reasonable price. Or at least compete for a spot.
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I don’t know man.
I think we’ve watched him not catch enough balls.
January 19th, 2013 at 5:56 pm
00tt00 Says:
January 19th, 2013 at 5:48 pm
do you think cable flew to michigan for the saturday games and flew back to oakland to coach on sunday……the scouts find the prospects and create a portfolio for the coaches to evaluate leading up to the draft….
and again….since your on this board i figure your a raider fan……..do you think cable drafted veldeer or al davis…..we all know the answer here……if cable said he loved him or hated him it really didnt matter……it was AL’s selection
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Lol.
You figure I’m a Raider fan? How nice of you.
Don’t get your knickers in a twist, take a pill or something.
Al did the drafting but he wasn’t stupid enough to turn down advice and Cable had his own contacts and was familiar with Hillsdale.
It’s really not a big deal man.
January 20th, 2013 at 5:23 am
The only comment I have being an abused Raider fan over the last 10 years, who has been hopefully optimistic, and watched stuff happen to my beloved Raiders that seems to happen to no other team. I don’t know who this Olsen guy is, but my first problem is his name is Greg….we just got rid of one and here comes another…I wish I could be more optimistic but I’ve been mentally damaged by this organization…Good Luck to all of us in the upcoming 2013 season were gonna need it…Kool Kell you out there????
January 25th, 2013 at 10:15 am
subichero Says:
January 20th, 2013 at 5:23 am
The only comment I have being an abused Raider fan over the last 10 years, who has been hopefully optimistic, and watched stuff happen to my beloved Raiders that seems to happen to no other team. I don’t know who this Olsen guy is, but my first problem is his name is Greg….we just got rid of one and here comes another…I wish I could be more optimistic but I’ve been mentally damaged by this organization…Good Luck to all of us in the upcoming 2013 season were gonna need it…Kool Kell you out there????
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mornin all!!!
Firstly young man old lurkio is always out there….he endures!!!Those of us that have been out there as long have suffered way more than you.We endure…after all that is what we are….firstly and foremost…RAIDER fans…..There are 31 worthless POS football clubs out there that would piss blood to have us.
Haven’t seen you before but you are well met!!!Welcome
but never forget one thing….YOU are a fan of the greatest Nation on this earth……RIP Al Davis!!!!
May 7th, 2013 at 8:47 am
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