Callahan takes umbrage with Brown’s accusation
By Steve Corkran
Tuesday, January 22nd, 2013 at 11:35 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Here’s the story filed by beat writer Jerry McDonald about former Raiders wide receiver Tim Brown saying that former coach Bill Callahan, in effect, sabotaged the Raiders’ chances of beating the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in the Super Bowl at the end of the 2002 season. The story contains a portion of Callahan’s response to Brown’s strong assertion:
If memories of being pummeled by Jon Gruden in Super Bowl XXXVII weren’t painful enough for former Raiders coach Bill Callahan, there is now this: former players implying that he might have sabotaged his own team in the 48-21 loss to Tampa Bay.
Tim Brown, the Raiders’ nine-time Pro Bowl selection and third-time nominee for the Pro Football Hall of Fame, said Monday on Sirius XM Radio that he believed Callahan “sabotaged” the Super Bowl by altering the game plan 36 hours before kickoff. Brown based his claim, on part, because of the relationship Callahan shared with Gruden, who had hired Callahan to be the Raiders offensive coordinator.
“We all called it sabotage, because Callahan and Gruden was good friends,
Tim Brown (81) says former Raiders coach Bill Callahan may have sabotaged Oakland’s chances of winning Super Bowl XXXVII against Tampa Bay 10 years ago. (AP Photo/Mike Fiala) and Callahan had a big problem with the Raiders, hated the Raiders, and only came because Gruden made him come,” Brown said.
Hall of Fame wide receiver Jerry Rice, speaking by phone with ESPN on Tuesday, sided with Brown, adding, “I was very surprised he waited until the last second and a lot of the players, they were surprised also. So, in a way, maybe because he didn’t like the Raiders he decided that, ‘Hey, look, maybe we should sabotage this a little bit and let Jon Gruden go out and win one.’ ”
Callahan, who currently is the Dallas Cowboys’ offensive coordinator, released a statement Tuesday night, saying, “I am shocked, saddened and outraged by Tim Brown’s allegations and Jerry Rice’s support of those allegations.
“Any
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suggestion that I would undermine the integrity of the sport that I love and dedicated my life to, or dishonor the commitment I made to our players, coaches and fans, is flat out wrong,” Callahan said in the statement. “I think it would be in the best interests of all including the game America loves that these allegations be retracted immediately.”
Brown said Callahan’s game-plan switch left center Barret Robbins so disturbed it may have been the catalyst to his infamous trip to Mexico on
Former Oakland Raiders coach Bill Callahan, (Jim Gensheimer/Mercury News) Friday, returning in a haze of alcohol and mental illness the night before the game.
Other players on the 2002 team rebutted Brown in various radio interviews, including quarterback Rich Gannon, linebacker Bill Romanowski, offensive tackle Lincoln Kennedy and fullback Zach Crockett, who is on the Raiders’ scouting staff.
“I like Tim Brown. Great guy, great teammate,” Romanowski told ESPN. “But he is delusional to think that Bill Callahan would give up the biggest opportunity of his life … to be a Super Bowl-winning coach. I cannot even comprehend why something like that would come out of his mouth.”
Kennedy tweeted that Callahan “got out-coached and a lot of us (including) myself were out played. It happens. I just wished it didn’t happen in the biggest game.”
Gannon, speaking on his Sirus XM radio show, said: “He was a good football coach, I think he’s a good man. We had too much invested in trying to become world champions. We all wanted to win. I’m sure Bill Callahan was one of those as well.”
The genesis of planning to turn a team that threw a club-record 619 times in 2002 into a running team for the Super Bowl was a 45-0 win over Tampa Bay in 1999. In that game, Napoleon Kaufman gained 122 yards and Tyrone Wheatley had 111 against a smaller Tampa Bay front.
Why would the Raiders revert to their passing personality so late in the week?
While Brown said Robbins “begged” Callahan not to change the game plan, Kennedy, also a starting member of the offensive line, told 95.7 The Game that he knew nothing about Robbins having any such issues.
Crockett told ESPN the game plan changed after Robbins went AWOL because backup center Adam Treu was not as formidable as a power blocker.
In a text to ESPN, former Raiders fullback Jon Ritchie said, “What we practiced during the week is not what we ran in that game. It could have been due to Barret’s absence.”
Gannon and Kennedy recalled having to abandon the running game partially because of game circumstance. The Raiders gained 18 yards on 10 first-half rushes and trailed 20-3 at halftime.
On their second possession, the Raiders ran Crockett twice into the line, were faced with third-and-long, and punted. Later, a first-down run by Charlie Garner resulted in a 1-yard loss, putting the Raiders in passing situation.
Gannon said there was talk of “being physical and running the football” going into the game but also said, “I don’t know that the game plan really changed … I think we came out, tried to run the football early and didn’t have a lot of success.”
Kennedy said he remembered Callahan saying as the Bucs took command, “We’re going to have to pass to get back into this.”
As for Brown’s version of things, Gannon said, “We often sit in rooms 53 of us, and the coach addresses the team, and not everybody gets the same message. Not everybody hears it the same way.”
Gannon, who threw five interceptions and had three returned for touchdowns, feels the blame falls on everyone who took part for the Raiders in Super Bowl XXXVII.
“If you got on that plane Monday in Oakland and flew to San Diego to participate in the Super Bowl, whether you’re the owner, the head coach, the quarterback or the guy that passed out the tickets, you’re responsible for what took place down there.”
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January 22nd, 2013 at 11:36 pm
Here we go
January 22nd, 2013 at 11:36 pm
Tim Brown vs Joe Bugel and OC Ray Perkins, 1997:
“The game against the Chiefs was so frustrating for the team that quarterback Jeff George and wide receiver Tim Brown, a perennial Pro Bowl selection and another outspoken player, began to call their own plays, ignoring Perkins. It was a mutiny, pure and simple, and it didn’t stop when the game ended.” – NY Times, Dec. 14
Tim Brown, 1995 interview:
interviewer: “he’s not a big fan of personnel executive Mike Lombardi. At one point, Brown detoured into a scathing, unsolicited critique about how Lombardi, and not Davis, is the reason people don’t want to play or coach for the Raiders.
A surprised and perplexed Lombardi had no comment.”
Tim Brown, 2013:
Disrespects Marc Trestman’s hire by the Bears by pointing out Trestman gave Jerry Rice a few more targets than Brown back in 2001.
Tim Brown is an attention-you-know-what.
January 22nd, 2013 at 11:40 pm
Who cares
January 22nd, 2013 at 11:40 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
January 22nd, 2013 at 11:37 pm
Sometimes I wonder if Mis1tic n all these guys are even black people , they could some aliens , trying to pit black vs white n ,stir up the nation fans , n every other motive they have, you guys feel that way sometimes , you know what I mean, it could be the mod (whiner fan) like MR Sullivan 44 trying to divide us fans into colors n sh1t , Idk , we should def just learn to ignore all their posts that had Pryor this or Pryor that, if Pryor is good , than nobody would b able to stop him from getting a starting gig, Dennis n Reg wants to save their jobs , they will put the best players out there, n may the best man wins, at every position , no point debating about stupid stuf
January 22nd, 2013 at 11:40 pm
What in the world are these guys drinking.
January 22nd, 2013 at 11:41 pm
Callahan wasn’t going to accept the claims lol
January 22nd, 2013 at 11:42 pm
Code black
January 22nd, 2013 at 11:42 pm
Jahaha
January 22nd, 2013 at 11:43 pm
Boomaya
January 22nd, 2013 at 11:43 pm
Hip hip hooray
January 22nd, 2013 at 11:43 pm
Put your pants
January 22nd, 2013 at 11:44 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
January 22nd, 2013 at 11:23 pm
Priest, I recall asking you if you really thought Pryor was good, and the reason I asked is becuz I wanted your opinion. I wanted to hear something that I have not personally seen. To suggest that anyone questioning whether Pryor is good or not is somehow a racist inquiry is ridiculous.
I valued your opinion. I know u used to work as a scout for the Raiders so I honestly wanted to hear your opinion. Sorry I asked.
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Priest, a scout? lol. No he wasn’t. Ask him, point blank.
He won’t answer you…PERIOD.
January 22nd, 2013 at 11:44 pm
Lets change topics. Who will be the raiders qb next season?
Also, are there any racists here?
Proceed.
January 22nd, 2013 at 11:44 pm
Wasn’t there also some stuff written about Gruden getting hold of a Raider play book some how also? What a mess that game turned out to be after starting out so well….
January 22nd, 2013 at 11:44 pm
mcfadden20 i have also thought the same thing about mystic in company they may not be black and just like stirring schit up who knows
January 22nd, 2013 at 11:45 pm
Mistic creates discord because some of you allow it. Hack Robert is to blame above anyone else, with his promises of ignoring him but continuing to engage him. The guy can’t help himself and gives Mistic all the attention he craves. I’ve said all along that Mistic is a troll in the truest sense. He likes attention and to create discord in here. And quite frankly…some of you guys do more than your fair share to help him accomplish that goal.
Mistic has a few puppy dogs in here that hang onto his every word. Let the 3 of them give each other reach arounds and just don’t respond.
January 22nd, 2013 at 11:45 pm
DR robert it will be palmer
January 22nd, 2013 at 11:45 pm
Priest might have been a Boy Scout. That’s about it.
January 22nd, 2013 at 11:45 pm
The truth is Gruden knew the team and planned accordingly, the Raiders lost their center, a big loss, and the team had not one of their banner days. Sigh.
January 22nd, 2013 at 11:45 pm
Maybe priestt sat on his couch and took notes on college players. Then mailed them to Alameda and hoped for the best.
January 22nd, 2013 at 11:46 pm
I’m so desperate for something to get pumped up about with this team I was hoping that one of his biggest proponents on this blog would offer some insight, or relate something I really hadn’t seen with Pryor that might infuse more exitement about the prospect of him being our qb.
That was the impetus for my inquiry to Priest about him.
If anyone thinks I would be down on having a franchise qb playing for the Raiders they have no clue about me at all.
January 22nd, 2013 at 11:46 pm
I still have my two Super Bowl Mugs….
January 22nd, 2013 at 11:46 pm
Raiders also lost run-blocking TE Roland Williams and had to quickly sign smaller TE Jeremy Brigham.
Hurt the run-blocking as well.
January 22nd, 2013 at 11:46 pm
After that C wood int, the kool aid fan in me was ready to celebrate , I was up 2 days no -sleep at waiting for that SB, everything went wrong afterward
January 22nd, 2013 at 11:47 pm
Ian85–u think? But I’ve heard rumors that it could be this Pryor kid. I think someone said that.
January 22nd, 2013 at 11:47 pm
well try some reality ive been one of them and im not going to be feeding the machine anymore i dont wanna give mystic anymore attention im threw with that troll hes a dumbass
January 22nd, 2013 at 11:47 pm
Raider on, I’ll be wearing my Raiders jersey on SB Sunday
January 22nd, 2013 at 11:48 pm
Of priest was a scout, then I’m a doctor.
January 22nd, 2013 at 11:49 pm
dr robert just heard it on tv pryor will be given every opportunity to battle it out to be the starter if we dont trade palmer i dont see how pryor will beat him out tho
January 22nd, 2013 at 11:49 pm
Who is this missdick person? I don’t recall him.
January 22nd, 2013 at 11:49 pm
Is he a nice guy? A good raider fan?
January 22nd, 2013 at 11:50 pm
Ian85 Says:
January 22nd, 2013 at 11:44 pm
mcfadden20 i have also thought the same thing about mystic in company they may not be black and just like stirring schit up who knows
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Thank you man, I’m glad I’m not the only one who feels like that
January 22nd, 2013 at 11:50 pm
Is he a nice guy? A good raider fan? I bet we would get along.
January 22nd, 2013 at 11:51 pm
and if pryor is the starter in 2013 then mumbles and denise really will be fired at seasons end
January 22nd, 2013 at 11:52 pm
Do u think its possible that a white guy who named his son after Marcus Allen is actually racist cuz he thinks Pryor is a bad passer?
January 22nd, 2013 at 11:53 pm
well mcfadden20 im all about ignoring those idiots from here on out they obviously feed off of getting a reaction from us
January 22nd, 2013 at 11:53 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
January 22nd, 2013 at 11:45 pm
Mistic creates discord because some of you allow it. Hack Robert is to blame above anyone else, with his promises of ignoring him but continuing to engage him. The guy can’t help himself and gives Mistic all the attention he craves. I’ve said all along that Mistic is a troll in the truest sense. He likes attention and to create discord in here. And quite frankly…some of you guys do more than your fair share to help him accomplish that goal.
Mistic has a few puppy dogs in here that hang onto his every word. Let the 3 of them give each other reach arounds and just don’t respond.
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Or some one got a hold up dr Roberts handle n is jus fukkin with our heads, idk just saying , hard for me to believe a person can feed An ignorant person for so long, MR (mod) is def makin us trip, just saying
January 22nd, 2013 at 11:56 pm
Ian85 Says:
January 22nd, 2013 at 11:53 pm
well mcfadden20 im all about ignoring those idiots from here on out they obviously feed off of getting a reaction from us
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Thank you , now hopefully one day Dr Robert will live up to his promises as well, honestly we should ignore any poster that starts talking about Pryor ( sorry not trying to sabotage him, he’ll be given a fair chance like other75 players to start) because we don’t know how many handles does that guy have
January 22nd, 2013 at 11:57 pm
Go Ravens
January 22nd, 2013 at 11:57 pm
It’s funny to me. I listened to the Reggie interview. If u don’t gave an agenda and aren’tt hanging on every word and then willing to bend it to ur purposes, u would think Reggie said two things.
1) he’s thinking of using Pryor in “imaginative” ways. Like wr. He said they need to figure how they could use him “best”.
2) he’s willing to give Pryor the offseason and preseason to make a case that he could “u know, take over”. This is the part that got everyone going. Listen to it again. He’s saying “could he EVENTUALLY take over”.
I like the kid but he’s not an nfl qb. And I don’t mean a “traditional qb”. I mean he’s not a new wave qb either.
January 22nd, 2013 at 11:58 pm
i agree and i think DR robert will live up
January 22nd, 2013 at 11:58 pm
Beat the SF team like you guys beat NE
January 22nd, 2013 at 11:58 pm
McFadden? You serious? Out of your last 40 posts, without looking, I’m guessing at least 20 were regarding pryor or posters posting about pryor.
Gotta practice what you preach.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:00 am
Lol. I have ripped missdick to shreds. That’s well documented. But I am not going to engage in convo with him anymore. It’s pointless and I’m bored by it. But I will occasionally make jokes cuz that’s still fun to me.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:02 am
I will even go so far as to say I’m getting quite bored with the Palmer/Pryor debate as well. I mean our feelings are all well known. I might still make a reference to our golden haired hero or the “enchanter” as part of my joke, but I’m bored trying to convince people. It will all play out.
I’m more interested in the draft and FA.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:02 am
Dr_robert Says:
January 22nd, 2013 at 11:57 pm
It’s funny to me. I listened to the Reggie interview. If u don’t gave an agenda and aren’tt hanging on every word and then willing to bend it to ur purposes, u would think Reggie said two things.
1) he’s thinking of using Pryor in “imaginative” ways. Like wr. He said they need to figure how they could use him “best”.
2) he’s willing to give Pryor the offseason and preseason to make a case that he could “u know, take over”. This is the part that got everyone going. Listen to it again. He’s saying “could he EVENTUALLY take over”.
I like the kid but he’s not an nfl qb. And I don’t mean a “traditional qb”. I mean he’s not a new wave qb either.
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Dr. Rob my man , it’s time for you to give up on Pryor topic n Beecham , no matter what you say or, they will think your a racist cuz ur saying he’s not as good As griffin n kap or ur melting down if you reply to that guy, lol so give it up man , I know it’s hard on the ego, but trust me its not hard once you just scroll over their handles without even reading 1 word in their posts, let them n their million handles talk to themselves for a few days , they will eventually get tired of it will stop
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:04 am
well DR it wouldn’t surprise me mumbles has shown me nothing since he accepted the job i think he is in waaay over his head i could be wrong but i doubt it reggie seems like a bum and if pryor starts next year we r really fcked if im wrong and pryor balls out i will be the first on here to admit it and eat crow but i doubt im wrong im pretty sure he sucks
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:04 am
Rob_raider Says:
January 22nd, 2013 at 11:58 pm
McFadden? You serious? Out of your last 40 posts, without looking, I’m guessing at least 20 were regarding pryor or posters posting about pryor.
Gotta practice what you preach.
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I said what I said, I’m not touching that topic anymore
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:05 am
Hey, like it or not, racist claims hit a nerve with most of us. That’s ok. Idiots who feel they aren’t doing well in exchanges resort to racist claims as a diversion reply. It keeps the topic off of jamarcus being a fat lazy slob. Or off of Pryor’s horrible throws.
I read some of the dumbest comments last few months, on this board, than I’ve read anywhere.
Someone actually stated that Reg and Allen didn’t play pryor because they knew he would be a star, and would show them up, lol.
forget who that was, but was pretty weak, pathetic, and actually funny.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:05 am
Btw, went to see zero dark thirty tonite. Pretty well made but I didn’t love it.
I saw one of my former players. He just had shoulder surgery but should heal. He’s 19 and now throwing 91. Only 5′10″, but he’s got a chance. Good kid too.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:06 am
The coaches decide who to play n they will play the best guys to help them succeed , I doubt they would change the game plans 36 hours before the games on Sunday lol
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:07 am
i hope the ravens kick the schit out of the whiners
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:08 am
Dr_robert Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:05 am
Btw, went to see zero dark thirty tonite. Pretty well made but I didn’t love it.
I saw one of my former players. He just had shoulder surgery but should heal. He’s 19 and now throwing 91. Only 5′10″, but he’s got a chance. Good kid too.
– 91 yards ??? Only 5′10 ?? Isn’t Brees like 6′0
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:09 am
Ian85 Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:07 am
i hope the ravens kick the schit out of the whiners
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Yup can’t stand their fans , city n team is kool I guess
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:09 am
dr_robert Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:00 am
Lol. I have ripped missdick to shreds. That’s well documented. But I am not going to engage in convo with him anymore. It’s pointless and I’m bored by it. But I will occasionally make jokes cuz that’s still fun to me.
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ahh. the jokes. the ones that give the racist all the ammo they need? those jokes? that you, and only you think are funny? those ones?
In other words, you have every intention of not only keeping up the racist exchanges, but encourage it?
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:10 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/23/jamarcus-russell-wants-to-make-a-comeback/
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Make it happen bro! Hope we sign him!
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:11 am
dr_robert Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:00 am
Lol. I have ripped missdick to shreds.
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And then you negate it all by making racist jokes.
you don’t get that?
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:11 am
Hockey season barely started , sharks won 6-3 scored all 6 in first period , and are 2-0 on the seasonn will open their first home game of The year on Thursday , just a random news if any one interested
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:12 am
RaiderDebo Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:10 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/23/jamarcus-russell-wants-to-make-a-comeback/
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Make it happen bro! Hope we sign him!
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Man, I have to give you credit.
His mom will give up on him before you do, lol.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:12 am
anyways im out nation peace and goodnight to all
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:13 am
I was hoping martz was the hire. Olson doesn’t excite me. I suppose he’s ok. That’s kinda how I’m feeling about the whole staff right now. I’m just not feeling inspired. I’m hoping to see moves that well….move me. And soon.
I really wish we had 2nd rounder. Then we could be sure to get a potential stud at #3. And then go from there. But we need more than that. So trading down is a big possibility.
It’s just gonna kinda suck to grab a big time pick and them basically have the same draft we had last year. I mean I think we got some good players. But it’s hard to hand ur hat on the bergstroms and burrises of the world. Maybe good players but not exactly game changers.
It sounds to me like we won’t be big players in FA either. So much for a quick turnaround.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:14 am
Mcf20. Lol. Sorry. 91 mph. I’m a high school baseball coach as well.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:16 am
NEW TOPIC!
Was it wise for the Raiders to scrap the ZBS to tailor DMac, a free-agent-to-be?
Or should they have kept it, being that Reece and Stewart flourished in it,
and let DMac go to use that $ on other spots?
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:16 am
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
BWHAH HAHAHAHAHA
When Pryor starts mctroll20 is gonna say reggie and allen are gonna get fired. When nobody gets fired mctroll20 gonna cry conspiracy. Such a joke bantering about who’s dis and dat. Let it play out in training camp dude. Dude, no need to feel threatened by Pryor if he starts or Palmer even.
We got bigger fish to fry.
IGAG
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:17 am
We have no idea what Reg has in mind, so far he’s saying the right things in his first full offseason , maybe he will trade a few of our plays , McFadden, Kelly,Huff,Branch to just name a few , maybe he will keep the 3rd pick n draft a legit guy or trade down , maybe he will go all out n throw huge amount if money at a we or he will just stay pat, uh intrigue of offseason
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:17 am
I’m a high school baseball umpire. No wonder we didn’t see eye to eye Dr. Robert
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:17 am
huge sharks fan watched the game entire game tonight sharks looked great just say no to russel wtf debo russel is a fat lazy slob and loser hahaha anyways im really out now peace
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:18 am
Rob–wait. Am I talking to myself? Is this my conscience?
Lol. Yeah the jokes. Im not the only one who thinks they’re funny. Im convinced of that. Hello? Is this thing on?
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:18 am
DJ stop with the crap man I have made a thousand comments about Pryor and what I feel he is capable of. I know if you’ve read anything I have written you know my opinion about him so just STOP IT!!
I told you I was tired and didn’t care what you thought so if that rubbed you wrong so be it.
But stop the innocent act….
Why in hell would I want him here at all if I didn’t think very well of him……….and y’all can asshrab all you want you know how i feel ab out what you all do. Then plead ignorance……give me a break!
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:18 am
Alex7 Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:16 am
NEW TOPIC!
Was it wise for the Raiders to scrap the ZBS to tailor DMac, a free-agent-to-be?
Or should they have kept it, being that Reece and Stewart flourished in it,
and let DMac go to use that $ on other spots?
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Who’s more of a Raider. Dmac or knapp?
IGAG
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:18 am
At a Wide Receiver
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:19 am
Hey, seriously, think about it. Very wise of Reg to say Pryor will get a shot (didn’t see the transcripts. did anyone?)in training camp, to start.
(It’s not like every camp doesn’t pretty much give all their players a shot to see how they do. it’s what training camp is about. It’s how Russell Wilson out performed the qb the team just signed for a big contract)
At the end of camp no more excuses. No more whining. No more crying. Who ever wins the starting spot, is the starter. And then all this crap will go away. kind of, lol.
Hey, if pRYOR wins the job, great. Means he outplayed Palmer. If he doesn’t, the the racist slobs can’t keep running their racist BS.
Pryor just looks so unpolished, I can’t see him improving as much as he needs to.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:20 am
Dr_robert Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:14 am
Mcf20. Lol. Sorry. 91 mph. I’m a high school baseball coach as well.
– oh throws football 91 mph or baseball lol
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:20 am
Alex7. Well if u ever umpired in the South Bay, u have seen me.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:20 am
after this coming season, DMac will be as much a Raider as Knapp.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:21 am
If it was the Raiders, these weirdos would be lambasting Hue for scoring all his points in the first half and none in the second.
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mcfadden20. Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:11 am
Hockey season barely started , sharks won 6-3 scored all 6 in first period , and are 2-0 on the season
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:22 am
It was obvious McFadden was the main problem , Reece n Goodson n even Stewart looked fine running in the ZBS , but it was still bad when we needed to punch it in the end zone or get short conversions
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:23 am
Dr, Redding is as far down as I’ve expanded (Oregonian) though I’m working with Eric Martinez, the Sac area assigner to try and expand farther south.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:25 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:20 am
Dr_robert Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:14 am
Mcf20. Lol. Sorry. 91 mph. I’m a high school baseball coach as well.
– oh throws football 91 mph or baseball lol
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I’ll help u out here. Dude just had shoulder surgery. Now he throws 91. Recovery time was not a question. Surgery was a success.
IGAG
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:25 am
dr_robert Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:18 am
Rob–wait. Am I talking to myself? Is this my conscience?
Lol. Yeah the jokes. Im not the only one who thinks they’re funny. Im convinced of that. Hello? Is this thing on?
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Yeah, you are the only one who thinks they’re funny. You don’t sound ignorant, so I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt. You’re calling someone racist, yet you continue to post racist jokes, and justify it by saying “was a joke”??
stop the bullcrap. Only a full blown head up ass idiot would state that, or a racist.
Which are you?
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:25 am
Mcf20– the kid can throw heat. Not big. I coached him in football too. Was a good little DB. Layed the wood for his size. I mean he’s 19 and he’s like 5′10″ and maybe 165.
But he’s pitching in college and 90+ for strikes will get attention.
Nice family. Good kid. I hope does well. He and his dad made an effort to come talk to me. That’s the kinda people they are. And we go to the same church. So there’s that.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:26 am
Alex7 Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:20 am
after this coming season, DMac will be as much a Raider as Knapp.
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January 23rd, 2013 at 12:27 am
Alex7 Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:21 am
If it was the Raiders, these weirdos would be lambasting Hue for scoring all his points in the first half and none in the second.
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mcfadden20. Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:11 am
Hockey season barely started , sharks won 6-3 scored all 6 in first period , and are 2-0 on the season
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Sharks coach would have gotten some fire if the other team eventually scored more than 6 n he couldn’t help his own team score after 1st
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:29 am
Igag–he WAS throwing 91 during the summer. But he had surgery after the season. Fairly minor but he’s rehabbing. He’s expected to fully recover. He lacks size. His dad is quite a bit bigger than he is. His mom is petite. So I don’t know much he will improve his velocity. Bit even at 91, he throws strikes and 90+ for strikes always gets attention.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:30 am
Dr_robert Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:25 am
Mcf20– the kid can throw heat. Not big. I coached him in football too. Was a good little DB. Layed the wood for his size. I mean he’s 19 and he’s like 5′10″ and maybe 165.
But he’s pitching in college and 90+ for strikes will get attention.
Nice family. Good kid. I hope does well. He and his dad made an effort to come talk to me. That’s the kinda people they are. And we go to the same church. So there’s that.
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Tim lincecum is like 5′10 too n he weighs like 150 soaking wet , doesn’t stop him from changing the games
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:31 am
Rob_raider Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:25 am
dr_robert Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:18 am
Rob–wait. Am I talking to myself? Is this my conscience?
Lol. Yeah the jokes. Im not the only one who thinks they’re funny. Im convinced of that. Hello? Is this thing on?
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Yeah, you are the only one who thinks they’re funny. You don’t sound ignorant, so I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt. You’re calling someone racist, yet you continue to post racist jokes, and justify it by saying “was a joke”??
stop the bullcrap. Only a full blown head up ass idiot would state that, or a racist.
Which are you?
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He’s both. Mistic has had this guy pegged from the start.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:32 am
91 is still good , he can get upto 93-96 range in couple of years , pitches and control that’s all he need to focus own now, velocity will come as he ages a couple more years
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:33 am
JaMarcus wants to make a comeback per footballtalk.com I personally think that will never happen. He still weighs 308lbs.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:33 am
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what I’ve noticed is that teams can save lots of money and high draft picks by going ZBS. Seems it’s an easier system for average RBs to succeed in.
Texans and Broncos = Ron Dayne, Domanick Davis, Steve Slaton, Foster, Mike Anderson, Olandis Gary, Travis Henry, Tatum Bell all getting 1,000 yards or close.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:33 am
Rob–I detest actual racism. Makes me sick. It’s so ignorant. But there is such thing as ironic racism (Sarah Silverman, don rickles, Colin Quinn). And plus I like to elbow u know who occasionally. It’s a little like stirring up a hornets nest just to get it buzzing.
But anyone should be able to see my intent and tone. I’m just pulling chains.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:34 am
Dr Robert what did I tell you , the guy has like million handles , they will bait you every time , are you going to hold of the temptations ? Or you going to bite , you decide
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:35 am
Dr_robert Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:29 am
Igag–he WAS throwing 91 during the summer. But he had surgery after the season. Fairly minor but he’s rehabbing. He’s expected to fully recover. He lacks size. His dad is quite a bit bigger than he is. His mom is petite. So I don’t know much he will improve his velocity. Bit even at 91, he throws strikes and 90+ for strikes always gets attention.
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My guess he’s a righty. Tough to get looks if your not 6′. But 90+ should get u in the minors if u got a good 2 and 3 pitch. Tom Gordon was what 5′9″. Some guys grow into their twenties. Scouts do look at the gene pool and facial hair. But 90 for strikes should at least get you a good education.
IGAG
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:35 am
Alex7 Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:33 am
20
what I’ve noticed is that teams can save lots of money and high draft picks by going ZBS. Seems it’s an easier system for average RBs to succeed in.
Texans and Broncos = Ron Dayne, Domanick Davis, Steve Slaton, Foster, Mike Anderson, Olandis Gary, Travis Henry, Tatum Bell all getting 1,000 yards or close.
—that’s why I kinda liked ZBS , save money on Oline and Rbs, use that money on other play makers , but with a different coach, A Foster n other ZBS guys never had any problem punching it in from inside 5
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:36 am
Call me crazy, but IF the young man is for real, I hope Reggie gives him a tryout …. JRuss,pullin for ya……
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:37 am
It’s always funny fans get upset if a team goes off with points in the 1st half and then can’t score in the 2nd half.
Say the Falcons put up 21 in the first half but only 7 in the 2nd. Is that…
worse than if they’d put up 14 in each half?
Of course not. The total is the total, regardless of how you got there.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:38 am
Oh debo (Shemp). Ur right. And missdick is right. I’m a raving racist. I’m dumb and have no football knowledge and I’m scared Pryor will take over my team and I just can’t have that. Is that better?
Now. Did u just moments ago hope the raiders would sign jarassic Russell?
Shemp, I think I have had one too many anvils fall in ur head.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:38 am
You can’t really be serious hendu are u? He was the biggest sack of crap on a FBfield.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:39 am
I’m all for Jamarcus if he’s our new play-by-play announcer
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:41 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:34 am
Dr Robert what did I tell you , the guy has like million handles , they will bait you every time , are you going to hold of the temptations ? Or you going to bite , you decide
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What I meant to say either you bait or bite. But to do both is uncommonly a rare feat. Only a level 4 trigron wizard master can do that.
IGAG
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:41 am
Maybe that guy can start his own wave of future in baseball and revolutionize the baseball world
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:41 am
Jamarcus announcing Jacoby Ford taking the 2013 opening kickoff for a TD:
“……..”
“fjla jlasru the tjioar!”
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:42 am
I think jawalrus should be the spokesman for weight watchers.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:43 am
dr_robert Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:33 am
Rob–I detest actual racism. Makes me sick. It’s so ignorant. But there is such thing as ironic racism (Sarah Silverman, don rickles, Colin Quinn). And plus I like to elbow u know who occasionally. It’s a little like stirring up a hornets nest just to get it buzzing.
But anyone should be able to see my intent and tone. I’m just pulling chains.
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In other words, McFadden and whoever, dr rob is every bit as interested in keeping this racist crap going, at all costs.
Save that insulting “anyone should be able to see my intent” BS. What everyone sees is you’re a racist. That’s very clear. At least preist and mistic don’t hide it.
Like I said, you’re just a small chittdisturber who enjoys, and I quote “stirring the hornets nest with you know who” which is exactly what i said. You have no desire to ignore, or let it go, in fact you enjoy it.
So stop pretending keeping the race crap going isn’t your agenda. It obviously is.
Oh, and stop with that juvenile ‘don rickles does it’. It’s your copout reply when your racist taunts are called out. Oh, let me guess what’s next? You’ll tell us about your dozens of multi-cultured friends who you exchange racial taunts? Where “they don’t care”?
You’re a fuking racist, and you know it.
so does everyone else.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:43 am
Is there any body here that can restore the order?
IGAG
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:43 am
Igag–yeah he’s a righty. He played at a tiny school in Texas as a freshman but has already transferred to a city college in Cali. With plans to go to a UC school next. It will be a journey for an undersized guy. But if he stays healthy and continues to expand his repertoire, he will certainly get an education and possibly a career. He has a compact effortless motion but there is some torque so the shoulder has to bounce back.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:43 am
Russell for strength and conditioning coach ?
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:44 am
Rob
is super passionate! About online banter! And jokes!
pat that man’s head.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:46 am
91 can get it done man 5′10 isn’t that short
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:46 am
Rob–did ur head just soon around? Sorry man. Not a racist. And don rickles is hilarious.
Level 4 trigon wizard in effect.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:48 am
JaBulbas for team chaplin
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:49 am
97, like I said, call me crazy, Al saw something in the young man…..people change, see what happens………Raiders!!!!!!
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:50 am
Why just last nite I was sharing my fascination with nazi uniforms and machinery. They had such cool stuff. They really understood marketing.
Yes, they were murdering pig gangsters do they’re that to think about.
But they make the greatest bad guys in moivies ever. Sophisticated mad men. And kinda gay. German accents are hilarious when delivered gay.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:50 am
Billy Wagner was a little guy. But he kinda threw 100.
Average MLB pitcher height is 6′2″
Shortest players are the MI.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:51 am
I’m out nation , enjoy the night
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:52 am
So I get called out for making the occasional joke. I understand that. I’m ahead of my time.
But these guys can come into a raider message board and bring up the evil one and suggest we sign him? I’m aghast!
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:52 am
My inside mole just told me Reggie had afternoon tea at Downton Abbey with all the big cats from the European Football League. Hmmmm.
IGAG
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:53 am
dr_robert Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:46 am
Rob–did ur head just soon around? Sorry man. Not a racist. And don rickles is hilarious.
Level 4 trigon wizard in effect.
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It’s official. You’re also an idiot. Don Rickles? hilarious? What are you, 80?? He hasn’t been funny in forever. His act died out decades ago.
somehow, I have the feeling you not only have everyone of his racist jokes memorized, but think they’re funny as hell, everytime you repeat them, don’t you?
come on. we all know. admit it. You’re the first to whisper racist comments, then laugh at everyone’s disgust, saying “was a jooooke. lighten up”
Not sure why, Nurse rob, but everything about you just comes across as greasy and slimy.
go figure
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:55 am
There are little guys who make it. I mean I would say it’s an uphill climb. But if u throw gas and hit spots and keep getting people out as u climb the ladder, eventually u find urself in the bigs.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:55 am
Alex7 Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:50 am
Billy Wagner was a little guy. But he kinda threw 100.
Average MLB pitcher height is 6′2″
Shortest players are the MI.
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Billy is a lefty. Different animal . Different rules. Most leftys are thumbers. except randy
johnson.
IGAG
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:56 am
Can we get back to football. And to how much we hate JaBustus. And does anyone believe Tim Brown and Rice? What does Jerry have to lose by also accusing Bill?
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:59 am
I know Dr. Robert’s a racist because he shops at KKK-Mart.
Also, his name was Dr. Brown.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:59 am
dr_robert Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:52 am
So I get called out for making the occasional joke. I understand that. I’m ahead of my time.
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Don’t re-write history. You get called out for making an occasional RACIST joke, which harping on and on how others are racist.
A head of your time?
making stupid racist taunts is ahead of your time?
Thinking on your feet was never a strong suit for you, was it? Your replies indicate your brain turns to silly putty under pressure. Everytime you post, you prove my point.
You’re rather easy, aren’t you?
You’re boring me now. Carry on. I’m done, for now.
January 23rd, 2013 at 1:01 am
IGAG, did you just call Billy Wagner an animal? You racis… wait, is he a white animal or a black one?
January 23rd, 2013 at 1:04 am
I also love Charlie Chaplin and buster Keaton. Being old doesn’t mean ur not funny. Red foxx is fantastic.
Don rickles wasn’t racist. He just made fun of everyone. Lots of black entertainers thought he was awesome. He was also very giving to some black people he was close to. I saw a documentary on him.
I don’t tell racist jokes. I would never do that. I make fun of racism ironically.
When o-bam-a was elected, the first thing one of my black friends said was that he got an email from the president saying white people were to report to the fields the next day bit was funny.
Lots of comics have fun with racial taboos. It’s a time honored tradition. As long as ur intent is not to harm. As long as its evident u don’t truly have ill will towards someone, then it’s all fair game. Get some thicker skin if ur gonna use my former handle.
January 23rd, 2013 at 1:04 am
I know Dr. Robert’s a racist because he only looks at the Raiders logo in inverted grayscale.
“that’s nerdy. it isn’t even funny…”
I know Dr. Robert’s a racist because he sets changes his tv from color to “white and white”.
January 23rd, 2013 at 1:06 am
Updated Jan 23, 2013 2:15 AM ET
MOBILE, Ala.
“Terrelle Pryor made his first NFL start for the Oakland Raiders in the 2012 season finale.
It might not be his last.
Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie said Tuesday night at the Senior Bowl that Pryor will have a chance to compete for the first-string job this summer in training camp.
“He needs to see if he can take a game over in the preseason, make some plays and carry out a game plan,” McKenzie told me and co-host Jim Miller on Sirius XM NFL Radio. “Let him compete. That’s what it’s all about. If it looks like he can help us win, at the end of the day, that’s what it’s all about. That’s what we want.””–Fox Sports.
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McKenzie talking about Prior and Palmer at the Senior bowl.
January 23rd, 2013 at 1:07 am
*Alex Marvel.
January 23rd, 2013 at 1:07 am
Dr. Robert’s favorite baseball player was Devon White.
Said Devon never sent his picture on job resumes. Name alone…
January 23rd, 2013 at 1:09 am
We all agree McKenzie’s racist for not just giving Pryor the job. Right?
January 23rd, 2013 at 1:11 am
Rob–why not tell us who u really are?
So wait. How many racists vehemently deny being racist?
I’m just not gonna get too serious and be told by anyone I can’t make a joke. If u won’t accept that I don’t mean it to be mean, but to have fun with stereotypes, that’s ur problem.
Missdick has brought ugly bigotry to this board. I enjoy skewering him for it. I’ve also tried to talk sense to him. But he’s beyond help.
I also raked that Neanderthal fangs every time I saw him.
I wish there were some funny black guys on this thing. Any foxx/Cosby/Pryor/Murphy/Rock/chapels fans? I mean c’mon.
January 23rd, 2013 at 1:13 am
ian85 Says:
January 22nd, 2013 at 11:44 pm
mcfadden20 i have also thought the same thing about mystic in company they may not be black and just like stirring schit up who knows
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Mistic could be KK but I’ve said for some time that Mistic is MR.
Have you seen MR lately? Of course not, he’s busy.
January 23rd, 2013 at 1:14 am
I was thinking of creating two new handles. Blackie lawless and white ford. And have them rip each other with all kinds of stereotypes.
January 23rd, 2013 at 1:14 am
Whitey ford
January 23rd, 2013 at 1:18 am
I’m really the beeech lawg with gelled pubes and rock hard deuces that float in the hot tub. Got mo shorties than a horse has flies. I have a toilet that sings and a sack that swings.
I am the beech lawg. Coo coo ka chew. Lawg on my fellow wood hunters.
January 23rd, 2013 at 1:18 am
I’m pretty curious about what I’ve said that was racist actually.
I know I said kaepernick was a perfect blend of white brains and black athleticism. But I made a point of stating I was anticipating what a racist might say.
I did name my only son after Marcus Allen. Is that racist?
Some guys don’t really understand complexity in humor. That’s why arrested developments and futurama were never hits. But full house was.
January 23rd, 2013 at 1:20 am
Notice my handle jacker didn’t sign the post. Good one faker.
IGAG
January 23rd, 2013 at 1:21 am
I was riding thru Oakland one day with a black friend of mine who is from there. I was speeding and he said “Slow down dude. Cops are all over here.” I ss aid “Dude I’m white. Don’t worry.” He looked at me and laughed his azz off. He says “Yeah that’s true.”
It’s called humor. Deal with it.
January 23rd, 2013 at 1:23 am
Btw, I kinda have always thought Venus Williams was hot. I know she’s pretty big but I think she’s sexy.
January 23rd, 2013 at 1:25 am
Here’s one for ya. I have a daughter. I would have no problem if she married a black man. Is that racist?
Dummies.
January 23rd, 2013 at 2:06 am
Timmy Brown is a loose cannon that needs to learn to STFU.
He should retract his statements about Callahan ‘intentionally’ losing the SB, ’sabotaging’ the team, being the cause of Robbins’ losing his mind and going nuts in Tijuana, and wanting to give the SB win to Gruden.
This is slanderous garbage, and an immediate retraction and apology from BROWN is required.
Same thing goes for JERRY RICE.
Did Callahan change the game plan at the last moment ?
Probably.
Did Timmy and some other players disagree with such a change and think it adversely affected the chances of the Raids winning ?
Obvuously.
But there’s a tremendous leap from disagreeing with what Callahan supposedly did – to flat out accusing Callahan of intentionally throwing the game to Gruden, wanting to lose due to a hatred of the Raiders, and blaming BC for Robbins going psycho south of the border.
Let me ask the long term Raider fans here a few simple questions – the answers to which – should be obvious and easily show that TIM BROWN is an AZZ CLOWN.
Is it even remotely possible that Callahan changed the game plan at the very last moment WITHOUT AL DAVIS knowing about it and approving/consenting to it ?
Even if you think this is possible (and if you do, you don’t know the RAIDS or AL DAVIS)…
Do you think it’s even remotely possible that DAVIS BRINGS BACK CALLAHAN the subsequent year if there was any credence whatsoever to TIMMY BROWNCLOWN’S accusations, insinuations and allegations ?
C’mon people, use your brains.
Callahan was surely out-coached and if he changed the game plan at the very last moment made a very serious error – but there’s no phucking way he intentionally lost the game.
End of story.
January 23rd, 2013 at 2:15 am
I like that he stopped to mention his sponsor mid sentence. Oh wait, just a copy/paste error.
January 23rd, 2013 at 2:26 am
dr robert
just ignore the trolls. keep posting relevant info with a side of humor.
January 23rd, 2013 at 3:05 am
Lol.
I was just watching the movie Romeo Must Die, Jet Li kung fu movie, and there’s a scene in a barber where a news report comes on in the tv in the barbershop, an ESPN breaking news media report talks about how the NFL has just awarded Oakland with a new expansion team.
Then the barber and his client talk about how it’s a surprise considering the Raiders left Oakland TWICE to LA.
Not impossible.
January 23rd, 2013 at 3:11 am
good news, Debo!
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/23/jamarcus-russell-wants-to-make-a-comeback/
JaWalrus is back. now the bidding war for his services can start. he’s only 18 pounds over his playing weight (290 lbs) too!
January 23rd, 2013 at 3:13 am
Russell > Palmer (in Oakland)
debate on, gents!!
January 23rd, 2013 at 4:14 am
First this and now I find out that Beyoncé was doing the lip-sync thing!!
January 23rd, 2013 at 4:14 am
I compare the making of a good football team to the qualities of a good restaurant.
Bad chefs = bad food
bad coaches = bad team
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@G123
Reggie inherited a bunch of food that had expired and/or tasted like crap
then he hired a bunch of douches from McDonalds to prepare the meal
January 23rd, 2013 at 4:17 am
Neil,
nobody does it better than Milli Vanilli
they look like Coye Francies & Phil Wheeler!!
January 23rd, 2013 at 4:18 am
Moby dick,sorry I mean JaMarcus wants to make a comeback.
Did I read that right? Or did it say JaMarcus wants to make pancakes?
January 23rd, 2013 at 4:19 am
Maybe Reggie Mac hired Brown & Rice to ruin Callahan’s reputation so he’d get fired in Dallas and we could hire him as O-Line coach ??
January 23rd, 2013 at 4:21 am
Milli Vanilli!!
I’d forgot all ’bout them!!
January 23rd, 2013 at 4:22 am
Neil,
JaWalrus has been out of football since May 2009
January 2013 he finally decides to get in shape and give it another try?
he’s gotta lose at least 20 lbs in the next 4 months if he wants to be on a team prior to OTA’s.
my best guess is he finally ran out of (Al Davis’) money …
January 23rd, 2013 at 4:26 am
Rockstar…
Can’t believe any team would be dumb/desperate enough to give him a call.
January 23rd, 2013 at 4:33 am
What am I saying?
He’s a great football player.Get over it.
January 23rd, 2013 at 4:44 am
Raiders willing to let Pryor compete for starting job
PFT
With Carson Palmer injured, Raiders quarterback Terrelle Pryor got what appeared to be a throwaway start in the final game of the regular season.
But it might have been a preview of coming attractions.
Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie told Alex Marvez and Jim Miller on Sirius XM NFL Radio that Pryor would be given a chance to compete for the starting job.
“He needs to see if he can take a game over in the preseason, make some plays and carry out a game plan,” McKenzie said. “Let him compete. That’s what it’s all about. If it looks like he can help us win, at the end of the day, that’s what it’s all about. That’s what we want.”
While Pryor looked raw in his short time on the field last year, there’s no denying he presents a more intriguing option than the rest of the Raiders depth chart.
Palmer is exactly what he is, a good-enough starter who has never won a playoff game. Backup Matt Leinart’s an unrestricted free agent, whom no one would miss.
Pryor at least has potential, as he demonstrated by throwing for two scores and running for another in his one start.
“It was good to see him go in and implement a game plan,” McKenzie said. “He carried it out, played the game through and showed us what he can do. He definitely flashed some things that we’re going to try and see what we can do with him in the offseason. . . .
“That’s fine to be a great athlete. We’ve got a lot of great athletes who can run. I want them to be great football players. I want them to take their game plan and execute it. Just make plays.”
For the franchise that gave us “Just Win, Baby,” Palmer didn’t do it enough, with three of his four victories over the 2-14 Chiefs and Jaguars last year. So even if Pryor doesn’t work out, the Raiders really don’t have much to lose in giving him a chance.
January 23rd, 2013 at 4:48 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/23/raiders-willing-to-let-pryor-compete-for-starting-job/#comments
Interesting.
I dont think the fact that Kapernick bascially just lit up the playoffs had anything to do with that, do you?
January 23rd, 2013 at 4:50 am
Dr_robert Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 1:18 am
I’m pretty curious about what I’ve said that was racist actually.
I know I said kaepernick was a perfect blend of white brains and black athleticism. But I made a point of stating I was anticipating what a racist might say.
I did name my only son after Marcus Allen. Is that racist?
Some guys don’t really understand complexity in humor. That’s why arrested developments and futurama were never hits. But full house was.
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One way to dismantle that argument is if Pryor competes and wins the starting job.
January 23rd, 2013 at 4:51 am
wow, PFT agrees with me on Palmer & Pryor!!
January 23rd, 2013 at 5:10 am
Wow, just heard on the radio that Jamarcus thinks he will be back in the NFL. Unreal.
January 23rd, 2013 at 5:23 am
If he can get back to about 240 lbs, he is still young enough and talented enough to MAYBE have a chance.
January 23rd, 2013 at 5:31 am
Cowboys gave Ryan Leaf his second chance, might as well run the table with horrendous draft busts and bring in Jamarcus.
January 23rd, 2013 at 5:32 am
I bet they give TP one start in the preaseason, whether he deserves it or not.
Probably game 2.
January 23rd, 2013 at 5:33 am
156.RaiderSam Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 4:48 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/23/raiders-willing-to-let-pryor-compete-for-starting-job/#comments
Interesting.
I dont think the fact that Kapernick bascially just lit up the playoffs had anything to do with that, do you?
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Uh, no. Pryor will play based on his own merits, not what somebody else does.
That was Al’s problem. Take Cliff Branch as an example. There was only one, but Al spent god knows how many draft choices and free agent dollars on guys that could run fast, with the idea that, “well, Cliff was fast and a game-changer. This guy’s fast too, and should be able to do the same thing.”
Terrelle Pryor is big, strong, and fast like Kaepernick. That doesn’t mean he can do the same things on the field that Kaepernick can. It doesn’t mean he can’t, but there’s more to it than just measureables and what somebody else did that happened to be from the same mold, so to speak.
January 23rd, 2013 at 5:38 am
““You know what I don’t get. There are a lot of smart people around this league. I’m surprised they have not figured it out yet. If you want to have success, why not go get a guy who has done it already and is willing to do what it takes. Why not pay a guy like (Falcons GM) Thomas Dimitroff or (Niners GM) Trent Baalke a little extra money to be your president. It’s happened with a lot of coaches — Mike Holmgren and Bill Parcells. Teams will pay these head coaches $6 (million) or $7 million. Why not go pluck the guys who have done the best job stacking rosters and building the culture in the locker room and finding the right talent? They have proven they can run the ship. You can put a plan in place to delegate authority on the other side of the building. If you can find the right coach and find the right quarterback, you have a chance every year. If I’m an owner looking for someone to run my franchise, I’m looking for the guy who has proven he can fill those roles with the right people. That’s the key to this whole thing.”
-Pro Football Weekly, “Audibles”
January 23rd, 2013 at 5:41 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Bring back JaMarcus??? He was listed at 305 yesterday…maybe as a blocker!
January 23rd, 2013 at 5:41 am
Edward Teach Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 5:33 am
156.RaiderSam Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 4:48 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/23/raiders-willing-to-let-pryor-compete-for-starting-job/#comments
Interesting.
I dont think the fact that Kapernick bascially just lit up the playoffs had anything to do with that, do you?
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Uh, no. Pryor will play based on his own merits, not what somebody else does.
That was Al’s problem. Take Cliff Branch as an example. There was only one, but Al spent god knows how many draft choices and free agent dollars on guys that could run fast, with the idea that, “well, Cliff was fast and a game-changer. This guy’s fast too, and should be able to do the same thing.”
Terrelle Pryor is big, strong, and fast like Kaepernick. That doesn’t mean he can do the same things on the field that Kaepernick can. It doesn’t mean he can’t, but there’s more to it than just measureables and what somebody else did that happened to be from the same mold, so to speak.
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You’re right about that. He was put in a pro-set at Ohio St., then ad libbed…but the good thing he displayed was that he kept his eyes down the field. My only concern is that he lobs passes over the top rather than having that nice flat trajectory that can cut threw the wind – He’s got a ways to go. It was good that Reggie McKenzie just admitted he has a chance to shut up all these false opinions like “they’re trying not to use him ” . People were saying that by the half-way point of the season.
January 23rd, 2013 at 5:44 am
Jamarcus was always great at QB sneaks, I think he converted all of them.
Maybe he can be a short-yardage FB???
January 23rd, 2013 at 5:47 am
I sincerely hope Pryor can pull it off. He’s got the physical tools for sure, works his butt off and really seems like a dynamic personality.
It would be great to see this kid take the reins and do well.
January 23rd, 2013 at 5:50 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 4:14 am
I compare the making of a good football team to the qualities of a good restaurant.
Bad chefs = bad food
bad coaches = bad team
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@G123
Reggie inherited a bunch of food that had expired and/or tasted like crap
then he hired a bunch of douches from McDonalds to prepare the meal
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@ Rockstar: The food was expired and tasted crappy, but a good chef knows how to season that schit to mask the flavor so that at least it tastes edible. worse ingredients plus worse-er cooks is just yucky football. Why am I thinking about Papa Johns?
January 23rd, 2013 at 5:52 am
TP being a legit starting QB, on a 3rd round picks salary, would immediately pull us out of salary cap hell.
January 23rd, 2013 at 5:53 am
I was thinking about last season, and how the only way we were able to beat the Jags last year was because Henne came in the game and looked about as prepared as Goethel did long-snapping.
Then I realized…..that we hired that QB coach!!!
YIKES!!!!!
January 23rd, 2013 at 6:01 am
I know right, JFB? Not sold on that hire, and it was my worst nightmare when I heard his name mentioned…but I will give it til the pre-season to judge! Can he bring back the Rams success to us, or will it be Detroit! Hoping for the best!
January 23rd, 2013 at 6:02 am
The same as it did when Cam newton made them look bad and RG3 who JFB said wouldn’t be higher than a 3rd rnd pick.
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First off Priest, I said 2nd round and not 3rd round. And do you remember why I said that? Because I didn’t feel he could stay healthy in the NFL.
That’s what wrong with you, and plenty of others on here, you are so insecure that you are so desperate to score a blog “victory”, you call the fight after the first round.
So while you and Mistic were running around beating your chest in October about RGIII, I sat back and let the fight play itself out. And guess what, it is still early in the fight.
However, I said RGIII would never stay healthy, and so far, I am right. But do you see me beating my chest about it? Reason being is that it is his ROOKIE YEAR, plenty of time still to play out.
Same with TP. I am sure if/when he starts another game, if he plays moderately well, you will be in here telling us all you liked him before anyone else, using all caps and exclamation points, talking about his greatness and bringing up racism and all that.
And it will be 2 games into his NFL career, lol.
January 23rd, 2013 at 6:14 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 5:53 am
I was thinking about last season, and how the only way we were able to beat the Jags last year was because Henne came in the game and looked about as prepared as Goethel did long-snapping.
Then I realized…..that we hired that QB coach!!!
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Henne actually played better than Gabbert down the stretch and won the winning job. Olson had some success with the Marc Bulger led Rams, going 8-8, then crashed to 3-13 the following season. The Jags had protection issues, thats why their passing was bad, and so did the 2006 Rams – Bulger basically had his career shortened and he went to a back-up after being a Pro Bowler.
January 23rd, 2013 at 6:14 am
Someone mentioned it yesterday…..
“With all the great teams we’ve had,I think today that this organisation,this team,this coaching staff,dominated so decisively that two things must be said.Not only,in my opinion,are you the greatest Raider team of all time,I think you rank with the great teams of all times to have ever played any professional sports.”
January 23rd, 2013 at 6:16 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S.GONNA BE A LONG OFF SEASON IF THIS BROWN/CALLAHAN THING IS THE BEST WE CAN DO..
January 23rd, 2013 at 6:17 am
Henne actually played better than Gabbert down the stretch and won the winning job.
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He did down the stretch of the season, but how bad did he look against us?
He was not at all prepared to play.
January 23rd, 2013 at 6:17 am
LEFT OUT THE MOST IMPORTANT LINE..JUST WIN BABY
January 23rd, 2013 at 6:20 am
I find it hard to believe that before one snap some are writing off Olson.New city,new team,new players – give him a chance.
January 23rd, 2013 at 6:22 am
neilb Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 6:20 am
I find it hard to believe that before one snap some are writing off Olson.New city,new team,new players – give him a chance.
Good Afternoon Neil…yup, I’m giving him til pre-season, or maybe game 1! Just lke I gave KNapp 2.0!
January 23rd, 2013 at 6:22 am
I left out the start…
“……When we first came to Los Angeles….”
January 23rd, 2013 at 6:23 am
Even though I did have that awful taste of throwing up in your mouth when Knapp was announced of coming back…I hope Olson clears out that awful taste and feeling!
January 23rd, 2013 at 6:23 am
I will certainly give him a chance, just a tad concerned.
January 23rd, 2013 at 6:24 am
Exactly Hwnrdr,let’s see what happens in pre-season.
January 23rd, 2013 at 6:24 am
My opinion, yes, that LAST Super Bowl team was the best…really close though, and I mean really close is that 76 team!
January 23rd, 2013 at 6:25 am
He did down the stretch of the season, but how bad did he look against us?
He was not at all prepared to play
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Freeman looked very good in 2010 under Olson, 2011 not so much, but that whole team quit on their coach.
I mean, lets not grade Olson on the performance of Gabbert and Henne. Gabbert is the worst QB in the leaque. Hell even MISTIC would take Palmer over Gabbert.
January 23rd, 2013 at 6:26 am
How many here can remember sb18?
January 23rd, 2013 at 6:26 am
SORRY HWNRDR,I’LL TAKE THE 76 TEAM.IT IS CLOSE THOUGH..
January 23rd, 2013 at 6:28 am
Good Morning Dirt Lot…Can we call them both the best team ever?
January 23rd, 2013 at 6:29 am
I mean, lets not grade Olson on the performance of Gabbert and Henne.
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OK…I think my point was lost a little.
Just reflecting on last season, and how lucky we were to beat the Jags. Just kind of caught me eye that Henne as the backup QB was woefully unprepared, and that is kind of the QB coaches job.
I will judge Olson on what he does here, but we got like 7 months before he calls a play, we have to talk about something.
January 23rd, 2013 at 6:29 am
neilb Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 6:26 am
How many here can remember sb18?
Yup, I can…and XV!
January 23rd, 2013 at 6:30 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S.GONNA BE A LONG OFF SEASON IF THIS BROWN/CALLAHAN THING IS THE BEST WE CAN DO..
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Morning, DIRT! So Jerry cosigned this now?
January 23rd, 2013 at 6:31 am
And XI!
January 23rd, 2013 at 6:32 am
I think some of that is on the QB though. He should know the offense. Not too many backups get much prep time during the week. Hell just look at our recent history of Boller and Leinart coming in to the game due to injury, both massive failures.
January 23rd, 2013 at 6:32 am
Yahoo! Sports has learned that Russell’s mentor through this whole process is former NFL wide receiver Mike Clayton, who like Russell is a LSU product. Over the next couple months, Russell will be training with Brian Martin of TEST Football Academy and TEST West, whose draft products include Joe Flacco and Patrick Peterson among others. In addition, former San Francisco 49ers quarterback Jeff Garcia (quarterback technique training), Olympian Ato Boldon (speed training and analysis), Dr. Robert Price of Elite Minds (mental and psychological analysis), former NFL wide receiver Quinn Early (disciplinary work and focus), former New York Giants quarterback Scott Brunner (reading defenses and classroom sessions) and NFL Hall of Fame running back Marshall Faulk (reading defenses) will work as part of the team trying to reclaim the quarterback’s promise.
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Wow! That’s quite a team. Doesn’t sound like a guy that’s blown all his money. I’d say the bidding war starts in a couple of months or so. Congrats buddy.
January 23rd, 2013 at 6:33 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 5:53 am
I was thinking about last season, and how the only way we were able to beat the Jags last year was because Henne came in the game and looked about as prepared as Goethel did long-snapping.
Then I realized…..that we hired that QB coach!!!
YIKES!!!!!
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I recall Henne came in and hit WR’s but they dropped
a few balls right off the bat and that gave us the chance we needed
January 23rd, 2013 at 6:36 am
Do I hear a sb2?
January 23rd, 2013 at 6:38 am
NEILB,LIKE IT WAS YESTERDAY MAN,LIKE IT WAS YESTERDAY.WAS TALKING LAST WEEK TO A FRIEND THATS A JETS FAN ABOUT THE PLAYOFF GAME AFTER THE STRIKE SHORTND 82 SEASON.RAIDERS WEE BEST TEAM 1 SEAD AT HOME VS NYJ.JETS HAD LEAD BUT RAIDERS WERE DRIVING LATE,PLUNKETT THROWS A BAD PASS AND ITS PICK’D BY LB LANCE MEHL #56 ON THE JETS.IM PISS’D..WELL TED HENDRICKS CAUSES A TURNOVER,1 MORE CHANCE.PLUNKETT DROPS BACK,THROWS A BAD PASS,PICK’D BY LB LANCE MEHL # 56.GAME OVER.JUST STOOD STARING AT MY TELEVISION FOR LIKE A DAY AND A HALF WITHOUT BUDGING..COULDNT MOVE..
January 23rd, 2013 at 6:40 am
LOL at Michael Clayton.
That was the guy who signed a five year contract extension, got fat and lazy, told the team “the check is already in the bank” and got waived and kicked out of the NFL.
Sounds like a perfect couple
January 23rd, 2013 at 6:42 am
DO RAIDERS STILL OWN RIGHTS TO RUSSELL ?? NOT SURE HOW THAT WORKS..
January 23rd, 2013 at 6:42 am
I can just about remember the strike 82 season.
Not sure if that was the first season shown over here or the 81 season.
January 23rd, 2013 at 6:44 am
neilb Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 6:36 am
Do I hear a sb2?
Well…if highlight reels count…too young!
January 23rd, 2013 at 6:45 am
Yup…we were what? 8-1 during that 82 season? Missed opportunities. However, that 77 season that ended with that Rob Lytle fiasco hurt more!
January 23rd, 2013 at 6:48 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
DO RAIDERS STILL OWN RIGHTS TO RUSSELL ?? NOT SURE HOW THAT WORKS..
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No, it was an outright release. In fact, I think he was briefly on the Jets offseason roster after the Raiders cut him.
January 23rd, 2013 at 6:49 am
Actually, it was the Dolphins, not Jets.
January 23rd, 2013 at 6:49 am
OTHER TWO TEAMS WERE BETTER,BUT 80 TEAM WAS MY FAVORITE I THINK..THE WHOLE PLUNKETT COMING BACK FROM THE DEAD,WILD CARD OUT OF NO WERE..”OUR FINEST HOUR” AL CALLED IT AT THE TIME..
January 23rd, 2013 at 6:52 am
Very surprised to see Jeff Garcia on his team. Wil be interesting to hear is comments in the coming months. Great move by JR though.
January 23rd, 2013 at 6:55 am
I doubt he’ll stay awake through all those meetings Debo.
January 23rd, 2013 at 6:55 am
Wow! That’s quite a team. Doesn’t sound like a guy that’s blown all his money. I’d say the bidding war starts in a couple of months or so. Congrats buddy.
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Funny, thats what that idiot hacksaw was promoting down here, that BRL ran out of money.
January 23rd, 2013 at 6:56 am
THANKS TEXAS..HOW’S THINGS IN THE GREAT STATE OF TEXAS ? MY FATHER IS IN WILLS POINT FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS,
January 23rd, 2013 at 6:56 am
This is not Jamarcus’ “team”, he hired TEST football academy, and that’s what you get with them.
Some dope from HS can go get the same tutledge.
Granted, they are a tad more motivated with Jamarcus because it would be the biggest turnaround ever and would be something they could sell to future clients.
January 23rd, 2013 at 6:57 am
Gannon, who threw five interceptions and had three returned for touchdowns, feels the blame falls on everyone who took part for the Raiders in Super Bowl XXXVII.
“If you got on that plane Monday in Oakland and flew to San Diego to participate in the Super Bowl, whether you’re the owner, the head coach, the quarterback or the guy that passed out the tickets, you’re responsible for what took place down there.”
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agreed, I blame you more so than the others… Capt INT
January 23rd, 2013 at 7:00 am
Callahan takes umbrage with Brown’s accusation
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Next post should read, ” Rice backs up Browns Accusations”
January 23rd, 2013 at 7:04 am
Blacksox Scandal 1919…
January 23rd, 2013 at 7:08 am
OTHER TWO TEAMS WERE BETTER,BUT 80 TEAM WAS MY FAVORITE I THINK..THE WHOLE PLUNKETT COMING BACK FROM THE DEAD,WILD CARD OUT OF NO WERE..”OUR FINEST HOUR” AL CALLED IT AT THE TIME..
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Agreed. Of the 3 SB winning teams, they did what was thought at the time to be unthinkable. A wild card team win a super bowl was just unheard of. Nobody gave us a chance back in 80. The Eagles were supposed to demolish us. Rod Martin, Kenny King came up huge. I was at that wildcard game against Houston when we shut them down 27-7 and Lester Hayes got that late pick 6 to seal the game. The Coliseum concrete felt like an earthquake that day. I love that 80 team the best.
January 23rd, 2013 at 7:10 am
OTHER TWO TEAMS WERE BETTER,BUT 80 TEAM WAS MY FAVORITE I THINK..THE WHOLE PLUNKETT COMING BACK FROM THE DEAD,WILD CARD OUT OF NO WERE..”OUR FINEST HOUR” AL CALLED IT AT THE TIME..
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I would have to disagree… 1976 Raiders best team in the HISTORY of the NFL…
Best QB ever to play the game in the Snake.
January 23rd, 2013 at 7:13 am
Best QB ever to play the game in the Snake.
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lol
Nope, He won just one SB. I remember that 80 team we traded Snake and Casper to Houston and beat both of them on the way to another Lombardi trophy. Plunkett was the best Raider QB, or at least my personal favorite.
January 23rd, 2013 at 7:17 am
Hard to believe the “immaculate reception” game was 40 years ago. Dam I feel old. That was like yesterday.
January 23rd, 2013 at 7:17 am
So, Jerry Rice agrees it was http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVaDxYMkVhc
January 23rd, 2013 at 7:18 am
Hey, thanks a lot Tim Brown. Let’s (unnecessarily) rehash the events that took place 10 years ago on probably the worst day of my life. Seeing Chucky dressed in Pewter and his team carrying the day….(choking back chunks of mini puke in my throat as I type that.) Anyways…
I think at this point, a)it doesn’t matter anymore/who cares? b) it’s all he said / she said, but, this is what I do know, think:
- Chucky’s last game as a Raider was the Tuck Rule. The following season Chucky pedal stomped us in the Super Bowl and that was our last play off game to date. We’ve NEVER been the same since.
- I’m ironically almost relieved in all of this that I now know that we were gonna run the ball and use our physical advantage against TB. (I wasn’t going to pat myself on the back believing that I was the ONLY one who felt that was the best way to go at the Bucs! lol)
- I’ve posted before and I’ll say it now. While our aerial/passing attack was something to marvel at (#hashtag the Pittsburgh game in Week #2)…we fell too in love with it and that was our undoing.
- I do know that if we play any team but the Bucs with our former Coach in the Super Bowl, we win. We would have KILLED the Eagles.
- What were Bill Callahan’s intentions that day? We’ll never know. But….
- Chucky would obviously know our playbook and roster pretty well. Even a stooge like Callahan should have known enough to change calls, etc..that was perplexing
- Even if BC hated (allegedly) his job with the Raiders…I can’t imagine ANY coach EVER performing hari kari in the Super Bowl for personal spite. There was too much personal gain in being a SB champion.
- The biggest reason why I find these allegations hard to believe? Al. Like c’mon, you think Al would have just sat there and played possum? Not a chance. Al has no shame, he’d fire a coach after a Super Bowl! Heck, he would have gotten John Herreira to unfold the able-walker and fit the Motorola to his comb over and he woulda gone on the sidelines and coached! Like there’s no way.
- as for Tim Brown: his stats speak for themselves and as a Raider fan, have to respect and honour them. But you know what else speaks for itself? When Tim Brown had his retirement announcement, (if I remember correctly?) Al was nowhere to be found.
Anyways, hope Reggie and staff are doing their due diligence for this upcoming draft.
January 23rd, 2013 at 7:20 am
lol
Nope, He won just one SB. I remember that 80 team we traded Snake and Casper to Houston and beat both of them on the way to another Lombardi trophy. Plunkett was the best Raider QB, or at least my personal favorite.
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Grew up watching the Snake, and also a lefty…
He is and allways will be my guy.
January 23rd, 2013 at 7:23 am
Time to go.
Have a great Wednesday everyone.
January 23rd, 2013 at 7:23 am
I lost a lil respect for Timmy. Sniveling isnt very Raider at all..
January 23rd, 2013 at 7:27 am
“The Raiders gained 18 yards on 10 first-half rushes and trailed 20-3 at halftime.”
Well, that pretty much tells the story right there.
January 23rd, 2013 at 7:29 am
what happened to Barrett Robbins?
Do any of you Semi’s have any idea???
If so elucidate.
January 23rd, 2013 at 7:30 am
Jamarcus already ran through all of his money? That would be the only reason he would want to make a come back.
I thought I saw him on Pawn Stars the other night trying to pawn that diamond jersey necklace….
Oh yeah, I am sure it is just for the love of the game!
January 23rd, 2013 at 7:32 am
Thec Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 7:29 am
what happened to Barrett Robbins?
Do any of you Semi’s have any idea???
If so elucidate.
I heard he cameout of jail for that episode when the cops were shooting at him and he just kept going towards them….was that in the bathroom? Last I heard…
BTW…What’s up Thec? Long time, brother!
January 23rd, 2013 at 7:33 am
AGREE WITH EVERYTHING IN POST-216 THEC..THAT 80 TEAM IS JUST SPECIAL TO ME..DIDNT WORD MY POST TO WELL,SORRY.
January 23rd, 2013 at 7:34 am
Thec Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 7:29 am
what happened to Barrett Robbins?
Do any of you Semi’s have any idea???
If so elucidate.
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He was released from prison about a year ago ( I think ). There was an interview somewhere on youtube. Not much of one.
January 23rd, 2013 at 7:34 am
408RAIDER Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 7:23 am
I lost a lil respect for Timmy. Sniveling isnt very Raider at all..
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What up dogg!! Been awhile…where you been hiding?
January 23rd, 2013 at 7:36 am
it was probably Cajun Pawn Stars
January 23rd, 2013 at 7:36 am
I heard he cameout of jail for that episode when the cops were shooting at him and he just kept going towards them….was that in the bathroom? Last I heard…
BTW…What’s up Thec? Long time, brother!
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Whats Good Brother? hope all is well.
Hope all is well. I heard about that episode where, he gave 3 cops the business…
More should have came out back then on what happened to him prior to the game.
From what Brown says, the game plan was changed before he went on the so called bender.
for example; Was something going on with his family perhaps?
January 23rd, 2013 at 7:40 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 7:33 am
AGREE WITH EVERYTHING IN POST-216 THEC..THAT 80 TEAM IS JUST SPECIAL TO ME..DIDNT WORD MY POST TO WELL,SORRY.
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Whats up Brother? hope you are doing well.
the thing with the Snake is no matter what the circumstances, I allways felt we would win every game.
Never was their talk about the Raids EVER losing.
January 23rd, 2013 at 7:40 am
“for example; Was something going on with his family perhaps?”
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B.R. was a diagnosed bi polar / depression and also had an addiction problem. He was a time bomb waiting to explode.
January 23rd, 2013 at 7:42 am
Jabustus wants another chance to be an NFL QB?
January 23rd, 2013 at 7:46 am
All is good Thec…Just another boring offseason, while the team across the bay is….well…
January 23rd, 2013 at 7:46 am
And yes…408…where you been brah?
January 23rd, 2013 at 7:47 am
235.Raider O Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 7:42 am
Jabustus wants another chance to be an NFL QB?
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Yep….at 308 lbs.
Well, his chances are about as good as Pryor’s!
January 23rd, 2013 at 7:49 am
Thec Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 7:29 am
what happened to Barrett Robbins?
Do any of you Semi’s have any idea???
If so elucidate.
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My bet is he was knuckle deep down in Zona Norte, after taking in a donkey and/or ping pong show.
January 23rd, 2013 at 7:52 am
^probably got piss drunk at Adelita’s too.
January 23rd, 2013 at 7:52 am
Damn you White Devil!!! Low blow dude.
Show TP some love. The young man scored 3 TDs in his 1st NFL start.
January 23rd, 2013 at 7:52 am
Romo said on the radio yesterday that Robbins brought some super-shady dude back to the hotel, went into his room for a couple of minutes and then left.
January 23rd, 2013 at 7:54 am
It’s so sad that the only national attention the Raiders have gotten in years is for a game we lost 10 years ago!
Of course, Callahan didn’t throw the game. Tim says something crazy every couple of years. He can’t help himself.
It’s too bad that no former Raiders seem able to articulate what really happened that week and that day. Clearly, the team performed terribly after having a great post-season. I’d love to know what went wrong with the overall preparation.
I knew the game was over in the first quarter when Greg Spires, one of the lesser players on TB’s defense, threw Lincoln Kennedy on the ground and sacked Gannon. Kennedy was coming off two nearly flawless seasons in pass protection, dominating much better players than Spires.
So what happened? Why did Kennedy and so many other players perform so far below their week-in, week-out performance level. It would probably take a really good journalist to get guys like Gannon to spill the beans. It will probably never happen.
January 23rd, 2013 at 7:54 am
Oh schyyyyt….we really are doomed….in 2029! Apophis is near!
http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/23/opinion/bear-apophis-asteroid/index.html?hpt=hp_c2
January 23rd, 2013 at 7:54 am
TP is not a finished product, he still needs a lot of work, but he did score 3 TDs in his 1st start, and we have CP so we have more time to develop TP.
I don’t understand all this TP hate.
January 23rd, 2013 at 7:55 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 7:52 am
Romo said on the radio yesterday that Robbins brought some super-shady dude back to the hotel, went into his room for a couple of minutes and then left.
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Can’t even imagine what that guy had to look like for Romo to call him shady. I mean I thought all football “posse” looked shady.
January 23rd, 2013 at 7:56 am
We have until 2029 to win the damned SB!!!!!! Get it done Reggie!
Dayyyyyum!
January 23rd, 2013 at 7:56 am
I don’t understand who is “hating” on TP.
Dakota just likes to joke around, and there certainly are a few people who throw water on the fire.
But I would say about 70% of this blog, myself included, are just on a wait and see approach, just like the organization is.
January 23rd, 2013 at 7:58 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 7:56 am
I don’t understand who is “hating” on TP.
Dakota just likes to joke around, and there certainly are a few people who throw water on the fire.
But I would say about 70% of this blog, myself included, are just on a wait and see approach, just like the organization is.
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You used to be a TP hater.
January 23rd, 2013 at 8:02 am
On the Bright side, this semi scandal is taking a little bit away from the Hardbaugh superbowl. So that’s a Plus
January 23rd, 2013 at 8:05 am
-OLB Jamie Collins is the next V Miller not J Jones.
-DE D Jones (UCLA) is a beast, and he took martial arts classes to improve his hands. I like 8him a lot as a. Base end or 3-4 end.
-CBs: Poyer, Trufant, and my boy Leon McFadden (Go Azrecs) are great 2nd tier prospects.
January 23rd, 2013 at 8:05 am
I like him a lot as a base end or 3-4 end.
January 23rd, 2013 at 8:09 am
fvck reggie/shrek…from” just win….to just make plays”….wtf?
January 23rd, 2013 at 8:09 am
Between this and the JaWalrus comeback story, it’s like fate is conspiring with the national media to bring up all the madness of the past decade.
Next we’re going to get a report that Tom Walsh’s Bed & Breakfast is really a house of ill repute.
January 23rd, 2013 at 8:14 am
JaMoney making a comeback huh? Ahh the memories. I’ll never forget at halftime we started to take shots for every completed pass and later driving home stone cold sober.
January 23rd, 2013 at 8:24 am
Gdog Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 8:14 am
JaMoney making a comeback huh? Ahh the memories. I’ll never forget at halftime we started to take shots for every completed pass and later driving home stone cold sober.
OUCH! LOL
January 23rd, 2013 at 8:30 am
Morning Nation…jaWalrus must have been sitting in the booth next to McKenzie at Denny’s got the football itch… JaWalrus making it rain on the grand slam breakfast….308, hahahahah…..
January 23rd, 2013 at 8:33 am
So. Regarding Timi vs Callahan… If Cally changed the game plan on the 11th hour, then Timmi and others must have gone crying to ol Al bout it.
If ol Al did not fire Cally after that, then Al knew about the change or asked for the change in game plan.
Sometimes I think the only thing Al loved more than winning was money. Heck, he even traded Gruden for some friggin money, LOL.
Could Al have profited from the 11th hour change?
January 23rd, 2013 at 8:36 am
Man, I think Jamarcus and Reggie Mac would get along fine since they speak the same mumble language.
January 23rd, 2013 at 8:37 am
1- DE/ OLB D Moore (12.5 sacks)
3- DE D Jones (7 Sacks)
4- OLB J Collins (10 Sacks and he played DB his freshman year)
Move Houston inside, sign a NT, RT, and CB in FA.
January 23rd, 2013 at 8:46 am
Bill Callahan is a piece of garbage. He is the stupidest coach in America. Total pos.
January 23rd, 2013 at 8:47 am
LDE: Jones
DT: Houston
DT: FA/ Bilukidi/ Bryant (if we can resign him)
RDE: Moore
OLB: Burris
ILB: FA or McClain (if he stays)
OLB: Collins
Or
LDE: Houston
NT: FA
RDE: Jones
OLB: Moore
ILB: Wheeler (if we can resign him)
ILB: McClain
OLB: Collins/ Burris
Who needs CBs and Ss?
January 23rd, 2013 at 8:49 am
jamarcus and shrek meeting at ihop!
January 23rd, 2013 at 8:50 am
one more thing for Raider fans to focus on besides winning.
January 23rd, 2013 at 8:54 am
I use to be OAKGLEN. Anyone using the OAKGLEN name now is an imposter. Tim Brown just trying to steal some niner thunder. Didn’t him and Gru reunite in Tim ’s final season? Sounds like a thunder blunder fo sho.
IGAG
January 23rd, 2013 at 8:57 am
Tim Brown just trying to steal some niner thunder
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That’s fine with me.
January 23rd, 2013 at 8:57 am
Tim brown ,JaRa. All this raida stuff comin outta at Super Bowl. This is r time of season.
IGAG
January 23rd, 2013 at 9:03 am
In Tim’s defense, after spending 15 years with the Raiders, he should be a conspiracy theorist.
January 23rd, 2013 at 9:03 am
258.Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 8:33 am
So. Regarding Timi vs Callahan… If Cally changed the game plan on the 11th hour, then Timmi and others must have gone crying to ol Al bout it.
If ol Al did not fire Cally after that, then Al knew about the change or asked for the change in game plan.
Sometimes I think the only thing Al loved more than winning was money. Heck, he even traded Gruden for some friggin money, LOL.
Could Al have profited from the 11th hour change?
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So now its Al’s fault? You can’t be serious. Al traded Gruden becuase he was leaving for Notre Dame and taking Callahan with him. He got Tampa Bay’s 2002 and 2003 first-round draft picks, 2002 and 2004 second-round draft picks, and $8 million in cash. Thats pretty good for a coach that was on his way out. Gruden was not coming back. You think Al was going to fire Callahan on the night before the Super Bowl. That’s crazy. In his presser, Callahan states “I think it would be in the best interests of all including the game America loves that these allegations be retracted immediately.” That’s becuase if these allegations were true then the law suits would be in the billions. Every person that bought a ticket, ad space, or watched the game could sue. It would destroy the NFL.
One thing that Callahan does not dispute is that he changed the game plan. That makes him either the worst coach in the history of the NFL or he took a dive. He arguments are weak and the evidence is mounting.
January 23rd, 2013 at 9:03 am
Niner fans finally getting some of the bad press they deserve. CBS sports Gregg Doyel wrote up an article on it today titled “Brace for it New Otleans: Niners fans display pattern of violence”
January 23rd, 2013 at 9:07 am
Brown’s story has riled up his former Tampa teammates who used to stick up for him. On Tampa sports radio, guys like Derrick Brooks feels like this all a backhanded stab at the Bucs. Meaning the Raiders blew it and not the Bucs earned it. You can tell this has definitely ruffled some feathers around one buc place and beyond.
January 23rd, 2013 at 9:07 am
We all know its true who knew Robbins a pro bowl Center was Bi polar until then? Why did bates run to the sideline yelling it’s just like in practice and that Grudden played Gannon and knew what Gannon would audival out of? Who knew Allen would take woodson to his home and break Curfew? look at the game tape we had not had 6 int’s all year! lmao!
January 23rd, 2013 at 9:07 am
245.Raider O Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 7:54 am
TP is not a finished product, he still needs a lot of work, but he did score 3 TDs in his 1st start, and we have CP so we have more time to develop TP.
I don’t understand all this TP hate.
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Kinda easy for Raider fan to have a glass half full approach to any QB developing on the Raiders’ roster.
Gotta love the dude’s heart and dare I say he reminds me of another Raiders’ QB…Bruce Gradkowski. Albeit, a bionic man version of Bruce Gradkowski.
January 23rd, 2013 at 9:08 am
270.The Big Banana Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 9:03 am
Niner fans finally getting some of the bad press they deserve. CBS sports Gregg Doyel wrote up an article on it today titled “Brace for it New Otleans: Niners fans display pattern of violence”
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Problem is you can’t fight with Niner fans or else you’re engaging in a hate crime
January 23rd, 2013 at 9:10 am
Browns gonna back track becuase Callahan is going to “Lawyer Up”. But the truth remains that nothing Callahan says makes any sense.
January 23rd, 2013 at 9:13 am
JaMarcus is ready to get serious and make a comeback.
January 23rd, 2013 at 9:16 am
308lbs QB’s……….
Wave of the future!!!!
January 23rd, 2013 at 9:16 am
276.Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 9:13 am
JaMarcus is ready to get serious and make a comeback.
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“Wave of the Future?” Pistol, Read Option offense? Jamarcus hands off and lands a crushing block on the CB to spring the RB for a big gain….
January 23rd, 2013 at 9:18 am
278.DutchRaider77 Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 9:16 am
276.Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 9:13 am
JaMarcus is ready to get serious and make a comeback.
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“Wave of the Future?” Pistol, Read Option offense? Jamarcus hands off and lands a crushing block on the CB to spring the RB for a big gain….
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For Jamarcus, it’s more like the Muzzleloader offense.
January 23rd, 2013 at 9:21 am
Bill Callahan inhabits the same special place in my heart as Walt Coleman. Its dark in there and one doesn’t venture too far…
January 23rd, 2013 at 9:23 am
The_Judge37 Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 9:08 am
270.The Big Banana Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 9:03 am
Niner fans finally getting some of the bad press they deserve. CBS sports Gregg Doyel wrote up an article on it today titled “Brace for it New Otleans: Niners fans display pattern of violence”
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Problem is you can’t fight with Niner fans or else you’re engaging in a hate crime
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They swing their purses in battle….
January 23rd, 2013 at 9:25 am
281.Dan78 Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 9:23 am
The_Judge37 Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 9:08 am
270.The Big Banana Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 9:03 am
Niner fans finally getting some of the bad press they deserve. CBS sports Gregg Doyel wrote up an article on it today titled “Brace for it New Otleans: Niners fans display pattern of violence”
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Problem is you can’t fight with Niner fans or else you’re engaging in a hate crime
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They swing their purses in battle….
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Below the belt Dan, the Fairey-Niner fans I know where fanny-packs…
January 23rd, 2013 at 9:27 am
alex7 wears a fanny pack?
January 23rd, 2013 at 9:46 am
Of course Romo wants to minimize the story.
From wiki;
Robbins regained his starting job the next year in the 2003 NFL season with the same linemates, a disastrous 4–12 for the team. However, his name and those of several of his teammates were found on the list of clients of the Bay Area Laboratory Co-operative that had given performance-enhancing drugs to Marion Jones and others. The Raiders released him in the summer of 2004 after he tested positive for a steroid known to have come from the BALCO lab
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:00 am
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/thrown-into-question-n58fedi-187970011.html
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Wow! looks like some of the character stuff that may have led to Rodgers dropping in the draft is starting to rear its ugly head. Would love to get Nolan Nawrocki’s opinion.
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:00 am
Mark Davis has his concerns about Power hungry Reggie and his guy Dennis and he should be very concerned. Reggie and his guy Dennis goal was to assemble a better team than the coach before him, Hue Jackson. Not only did they failed but they failed miserably. Hue Jackson with twice the winning record as the two headed team and an offense that ranked with the top of the NFL showed his worth. Reggie and his guy made some locker room improvements according to Reggie but zero gains as far as player production. Player production has nothing to do with salary issues!!! Hue is gone but that does not change the goal for any Raider new hire and that is to do better than the coach that got fire for not being as productive as the owner projected. At this stage of the Raider change of the guard Hue Jackson Raiders 2, the dynamic duo zero.
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:02 am
If TP becomes the long term answer for the Raiders being drafted in round 3 of the supp.draft,does that make up a little for Uncle Al drafting the guy who name shld not be spoken on a forum of any thing Raiders,instead of Megatron???
I’m sure some of u can think of 39mill reasons why it doesn’t!!!
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:05 am
i agree 2romes…my take is that reggie set this franchise back by about 3-4 years…he says he is changing the culture but that means squat in wins. You cannot win withpractice guys and thats all he has brought in…this the nfl…excuses count as much here as they do in court…nothing.
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:06 am
I don’t know about Reggie being power hungry. He seems pretty humble when he talks about his role with the organization.
A far cry from the megalomaniac that was Hue Jax.
But I do agree that the short term scorecard of Hue’s track record of getting production from marginal talent is easily better than Reggie or DA.
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:14 am
I agree with all of you guys, Reggie $UCKS!
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:16 am
So tp and cp3 are having an open competition next yr? Wheres jerry on this?
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:18 am
In this respect, Tim Brown is a douche. He’ll do or say almost anything to get noticed. In this case it has backfired and he’ll have to pay the piper. As far as HOF recognition goes, that ship has just sailed. It won’t be back anytime soon if ever. Unless he retracts his statements outright, he’s going to get sued for defamation by Calahan & he’s going to lose. He’s already started to backtrack but it’s too little too late. Brown really needs to understand that his big mouth is writing checks his a$$ can’t cover and his days of notoriety are over. As far as getting a coaching job somewhere, that’s not happening anytime soon. As far as getting an executive position with the Raiders goes, he’s got a better chance playing Lotto.
Tim Brown has just screwed himself. That’s what happens when you operate your mouth before engaging your brain.
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:21 am
JaMarcus coming back can re-revolutionalize the position of QB. Forget dual threat. JaMarcus is a triple threat at the QB position.
1) He can beat you with his cannon arm
2) After making the right read in the option, he can choose a defender to sit on, taking him out of the game and whittling away their defensive depth
3) Ever hear the term “eat up blockers”? JaMarcus can be the offensive equivalent by literaly consuming hapless defenders that find themselves within arm’s reach in the backfield
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:22 am
hahaha russel was 320 lbs holy schit thats insane nows hes 308 trying to make a comeback bhabahabahaa thats hilarious the fat pos sucks and always will good laugh tho
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:23 am
So JaPaycheck wants to make a comeback? Who knows? Maybe he’ll at least GLANCE at the playbook this time…
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:24 am
Loving this scandal, because as one poster put it:
JLofty Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 8:46 am
Bill Callahan is a piece of garbage. He is the stupidest coach in America. Total pos.
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:25 am
Tim Brown has just screwed himself. That’s what happens when you operate your mouth before engaging your brain.
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I think the problem has to do with people taking words that stand out, like “Sabatoge”, and taking them out of context. I don’t really see anything wrong with what Tim said, he’s just stating what he believes.
At the end of the Day, Fk Bill Callahan. Sure Tim shouldn’t be so sore about it now, but Fk Bill Callahan.
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:26 am
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:14 am
I agree with all of you guys, Reggie $UCKS!
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Nobody with any sense thinks that. Reggie’s doing a good job, and is a huge improvement over Demented Al. Like it or not, the Raiders are Reggie’s team now. Reggie is the Raiders.
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:27 am
Dan78 Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 9:23 am
The_Judge37 Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 9:08 am
270.The Big Banana Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 9:03 am
Niner fans finally getting some of the bad press they deserve. CBS sports Gregg Doyel wrote up an article on it today titled “Brace for it New Otleans: Niners fans display pattern of violence”
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Problem is you can’t fight with Niner fans or else you’re engaging in a hate crime
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They swing their purses in battle….
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They also violate the Geneva Convention, using biowarfare actions such as throwing white wine in your eyes to blind you and tossing cheese on the ground to mess up your footing.
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:28 am
If Timmy could backpedal like this when he was playing he’d probably already be in the HOF as a cornerback;
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/23/tim-brown-i-never-said-bill-callahan-sabotaged-the-super-bowl/
What a schmoe.
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:28 am
Is it racist to think Russell sucked?
Just kidding. Not going down that road.
(But man did he suck).
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:31 am
Anybody watch d jones at the seinor bl practice tearing it up? Great tecnique and burst.
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:34 am
if TP and Palmer are in an open competition next year let’s just trade Palmer already… do it reg
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:35 am
Reggie is doing a good job? Where? Here in Oakland? List all the accomplishments of Reggie in Oakland!! Maybe he will do better next year. Can’t do much worst. Here’s to Reggie doing better 4-12 next year.
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:36 am
Dr_robert Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:28 am
Is it racist to think Russell sucked?
Just kidding. Not going down that road.
(But man did he suck).
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Not racist at all. He was a fat slug who stole tens of millions from a dying man and used it to support his drug-and-cheeseburger habit. He refused to work, refused to play well and was generally a complete waste of talent.
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:36 am
quack quack quack….
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:37 am
Jets and cards are desperate at qb
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:37 am
4-12….lmao…4-12…better job…love the math.
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:37 am
Too early to just the Reginator. No draft picks and 20 mil over the cap in 2012. This year we’ll see what he’s got. DA, on the other hand,…
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:38 am
too early to judge…dang spellcheck
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:39 am
2romes Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:35 am
Reggie is doing a good job? Where? Here in Oakland? List all the accomplishments of Reggie in Oakland!! Maybe he will do better next year. Can’t do much worst. Here’s to Reggie doing better 4-12 next year.
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1. Getting a good contributor for worthless Bruce Campbell
2. Getting a draft pick for equally worthless Louis Murphy
3. Upgrading Oakland to a modern organization
4. Starting the process of ridding us of Al’s ridiculous contracts. Routt and Wimbley were only a start.
5. Dumping worthless slugs like DVD in favor of promising young players like Brandian Ross
6. Drafting an instant starter in Miles Burris at the end of Round 4.
7. Locating UDFA find Rod Streater
8. Ending Al’s scholarship. We Al alive, RoMac would have started every game this year
Anyway, that was a partial list. More to come (if I feel like it).
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:40 am
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:36 am
quack quack quack….
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You LIKE JaMarcus?
Or if that was directed at my Reggie comments, lay off already. You’ve got your precious angle-blocking OC now. Chill.
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:42 am
dr_robert Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:28 am
Is it racist to think Russell sucked?
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Would you expect a white qb to be in shape and to give maximum effort? None of you guys would.
Russell is the best qb the Raiders have ever had and you guys never gave him a chance. But your bald headed hero Gradkowski? Oh yeah. You give HIM every chance in the world.
It’s sickening. In fact, i’m going to throw up right now in disgust.
There…I just threw up. You happy now?
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:42 am
RaiderDuck Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:39 am
2romes Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:35 am
Reggie is doing a good job? Where? Here in Oakland? List all the accomplishments of Reggie in Oakland!! Maybe he will do better next year. Can’t do much worst. Here’s to Reggie doing better 4-12 next year.
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1. Getting a good contributor for worthless Bruce Campbell
2. Getting a draft pick for equally worthless Louis Murphy
3. Upgrading Oakland to a modern organization
4. Starting the process of ridding us of Al’s ridiculous contracts. Routt and Wimbley were only a start.
5. Dumping worthless slugs like DVD in favor of promising young players like Brandian Ross
6. Drafting an instant starter in Miles Burris at the end of Round 4.
7. Locating UDFA find Rod Streater
8. Ending Al’s scholarship. We Al alive, RoMac would have started every game this year
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What does #3 mean exactly?
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:42 am
Burris was a default starter not an instant one.
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:45 am
The_Judge37 Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:42 am
What does #3 mean exactly?
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It means that we now have a actual Scouting Director, General Manager, Player/Personnel Guy, Media Relations guy and so forth, as opposed to one eightysomething filling those roles himself (and very poorly, at that).
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:45 am
so nobody thinks that Reggie announcing TP and Palmer will be in an open competition next year is interesting?
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:46 am
Does #3 mean Reggie and DA took Al’s overhead projector out into the parking lot and smashed it while listening to Geto Boyz
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:47 am
Burris was an instant/default starter who excelled/sucked.
He was/wasn’t a good/bad pick.
Trying to make everyone happy.
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:47 am
Marks Hair Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:45 am
so nobody thinks that Reggie announcing TP and Palmer will be in an open competition next year is interesting?
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I’m not sure that’s exactly what he said. He said TP will be given the opportunity, but I suspect CP would have to completely fall apart to lose the job.
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:47 am
The_Judge37 Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:46 am
Does #3 mean Reggie and DA took Al’s overhead projector out into the parking lot and smashed it while listening to Geto Boyz
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As long as they got rid of it one way or the other. I only wished they’d done the same to John Herrera.
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:47 am
raiderduck i wouldn’t say reggie is the raiders he can still be fired he obviously won’t be atleast not this year anyway but he isnt the raiders hes a stop gap and will get canned at the end of the year hes been a bust so far
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:49 am
Ian85 Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:47 am
raiderduck i wouldn’t say reggie is the raiders he can still be fired he obviously won’t be atleast not this year anyway but he isnt the raiders hes a stop gap and will get canned at the end of the year hes been a bust so far
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Reggie will get at least two more seasons. He SHOULD get four more seasons, but he’ll get at least two.
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:50 am
Did Tim Brown’s HOF chances just go up or down?
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:50 am
Dennis Allen reminds me of Jamarcus.
Both are very uninspiring and both will set this franchise back several years.
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:51 am
An intriguing destination for JaMarcus next year is the New England Patriots. It’s become painfully clear that Tom Brady is a shell of his former self. Even though I’m an anti-Brady guy, couldn’t help but feel sorry for him a litle bit on Sunday. He just looked so helpless. As much as the NE brass loves the guy, the handwriting is on the wall. JaMarcus would be the perfect replacement. With his gun, they might be able to get that elusive 4th SB win. It would take some getting used to for me, but I’d root for him. What do you guys think?
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:51 am
Djjohnny–excellent point. All of the haters/racists loved gradkowski just cuz he came out and had fire and competed and completed passes and generally acted as if he cared if the raiders won or lost. Ridiculous. They don’t understand how cool it is to wear due coats and huge rocks and ropes and drink syrup and eat a lot and sleep a lot and……well I hope we resign him to prove to people like that awful doctor guy that athletic, fast qb’s are……wait. I lost my train of thought. Who were we talking about again?
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:51 am
Tim Brown just pulled a Lance Armstrong. (back tracking)
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:51 am
RAIDERDUCK i could see him getting 2 more seasons but no way in hell should he get 4 more if the team cant make the playoffs in 2 years from now
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:52 am
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:50 am
Dennis Allen reminds me of Jamarcus.
Both are very uninspiring and both will set this franchise back several years.
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The only guy that anyone can say has “set this franchise back several years” is Carson Palmer.
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:52 am
http://outkickthecoverage.com/jamarcus-russells-comeback-has-obstacles-boobs.php
Check out JaMarcus’s man-boobs…
lol
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:53 am
RaiderDebo Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:51 am
An intriguing destination for JaMarcus next year is the New England Patriots. It’s become painfully clear that Tom Brady is a shell of his former self. Even though I’m an anti-Brady guy, couldn’t help but feel sorry for him a litle bit on Sunday. He just looked so helpless. As much as the NE brass loves the guy, the handwriting is on the wall. JaMarcus would be the perfect replacement. With his gun, they might be able to get that elusive 4th SB win. It would take some getting used to for me, but I’d root for him. What do you guys think?
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No. Belichick requires players who work hard, stay in shape, and know the playbook. JaMarcus is 0 for 3 on that score. Besides, NE’s got Ryan Mallet ready to take over for Brady.
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:53 am
Dr_robert Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:28 am
Is it racist to think Russell sucked?
Just kidding. Not going down that road.
(But man did he suck).
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Any minute…here comes KK!
Lol!
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:54 am
I’d like one of these beat writers to really do a story on how long it is expected the Raiders actually get right with the Salary cap.
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:54 am
RaiderDuck Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:39 am
2romes Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:35 am
Reggie is doing a good job? Where? Here in Oakland? List all the accomplishments of Reggie in Oakland!! Maybe he will do better next year. Can’t do much worst. Here’s to Reggie doing better 4-12 next year.
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1. Getting a good contributor for worthless Bruce Campbell
2. Getting a draft pick for equally worthless Louis Murphy
3. Upgrading Oakland to a modern organization
4. Starting the process of ridding us of Al’s ridiculous contracts. Routt and Wimbley were only a start.
5. Dumping worthless slugs like DVD in favor of promising young players like Brandian Ross
6. Drafting an instant starter in Miles Burris at the end of Round 4.
7. Locating UDFA find Rod Streater
8. Ending Al’s scholarship. We Al alive, RoMac would have started every game this year
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9.Dont forget he got rid of the head projector and brought in a computer… A freaking computer…
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:55 am
Fur coats. Dang it.
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:56 am
RaiderDebo Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:51 am
An intriguing destination for JaMarcus next year is the New England Patriots. It’s become painfully clear that Tom Brady is a shell of his former self. Even though I’m an anti-Brady guy, couldn’t help but feel sorry for him a litle bit on Sunday. He just looked so helpless. As much as the NE brass loves the guy, the handwriting is on the wall. JaMarcus would be the perfect replacement. With his gun, they might be able to get that elusive 4th SB win. It would take some getting used to for me, but I’d root for him. What do you guys think?
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What do I think?
I think you may like to partake in the purple drank.
Jamarcus to the Pats is the most ludicrous thing I’ve ever heard LMAO!
I have a sense of humor and will assume your just playing.
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:57 am
I didnt read exactly what reggie said but sirius has been reporting reggie has announced an open QB competition between the 2..
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:57 am
326.RaiderDebo Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:51 am
An intriguing destination for JaMarcus next year is the New England Patriots. It’s become painfully clear that Tom Brady is a shell of his former self. Even though I’m an anti-Brady guy, couldn’t help but feel sorry for him a litle bit on Sunday. He just looked so helpless. As much as the NE brass loves the guy, the handwriting is on the wall. JaMarcus would be the perfect replacement. With his gun, they might be able to get that elusive 4th SB win. It would take some getting used to for me, but I’d root for him. What do you guys think?
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Really, I thought you would have said Packers, considering the eye-popping article you posted revealing what a scumbag that Aaron Rogers is…Or could be the Broncos, with the ailing over the hill Peyton Manning and the fact that John Elway has his phone number on speed dial.
Let the bidding war begin…
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:57 am
hahahaha debo JA FATASS is waaay to stupid to run the pats offense brady schits all over russel on his worst day thats gotta be the funniest thing i have heard u say u truly r a idiot
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:58 am
four more lol….dang even thats short of ten and then…youre getting soft quack.
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:58 am
Debo, you always brighten my day! Your satire is so subtle I think many here miss your real points. I get it, though.
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:58 am
Funniest part of the Russell article was him being “down” to 308.
LMFAO
Only 88 more pounds to go, my man.
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:59 am
Sorry, Reggie’s been a total failure at every level. He got rid of “outta wack” contracts. Big deal. Amy Trask could have done that with no football acumen.
Results speak for themselves. You are what your record says you are. Going from 8-8 to 4-12 is a failure of execution on any level you want to talk about. No way did Reggie plan on gutting the team and losing 4 more games in the process.
Reggie = FAIL
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:59 am
DEBO keep up the good work ur always good for a few laughs
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:00 am
Only 88 more pounds to go, my man.
*******
Biggest loser?
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:00 am
Lmfao Debo , thanks man
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:00 am
ian85 Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:57 am
hahahaha debo JA FATASS is waaay to stupid to run the pats offense brady schits all over russel on his worst day thats gotta be the funniest thing i have heard u say u truly r a idiot
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Pats offense is “QB friendly”. How else do you think Matt Cassell ran it so brilliantly?
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:00 am
RaiderDebo Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:52 am
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:50 am
Dennis Allen reminds me of Jamarcus.
Both are very uninspiring and both will set this franchise back several years.
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The only guy that anyone can say has “set this franchise back several years” is Carson Palmer.
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I’m a huebris fan and I think if you are going to blame Carson for setting us back you should point the finger at the guy who made this trade. Raiders weren’t going anywhere fast with Boeller.
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:01 am
LMAO!!!!!!!!!
Good morning race haters and impostor fans, guess what…..
BIG MACK IS WHOOPIN’ YO AZZ THIS MORNING!!!!!
PRYOR WILL BE GIVEN A SHOT TO COMPETE FOR THE STARTING GIG!!!!
This is huge news. This means that what i have told you is true.
1. pryor more than impressed in san diego, he proved to be a weapon of mass destruction grossly mishandled.
2. The advent of the wave of the futre and the hybrid offense has caused davis jr and big mack kick DA in the nutz and get him on the field. Because this qb and this offense will be a TRUE INSTANT UPGRADE AND MAKE US COMPETITIVE IMMEDIATELY WITH OUT OVER HAULING THE ROSTER
3. carson was on an extended tryout and has not impressed. he is dime a dozen and you can find his type every where, yet there are very very few with skills like pryor and one is in the superbowl
This is a smack in the face for the haters and palmer worshipers, but it must be done.
We will see a return to al davis football next season, and it will be updated with the hybrid game!!!
Hopefully we cut palmer outright so that we can save some cap space and spend the draft and money on defense and o line.
Next time i tell you something write it down and memorize it!!!
HYBRID OFFENSE in 2013!!!
THE WAVE OF THE FUTURE OWNS YOU, AND IT IS TSUNAMI WEARING NUMBER SIX!!!
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:01 am
Was there any follow up to TP traing with Gannon… I remember TP stating something to that effect…
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:02 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:57 am
326.RaiderDebo Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:51 am
An intriguing destination for JaMarcus next year is the New England Patriots. It’s become painfully clear that Tom Brady is a shell of his former self. Even though I’m an anti-Brady guy, couldn’t help but feel sorry for him a litle bit on Sunday. He just looked so helpless. As much as the NE brass loves the guy, the handwriting is on the wall. JaMarcus would be the perfect replacement. With his gun, they might be able to get that elusive 4th SB win. It would take some getting used to for me, but I’d root for him. What do you guys think?
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Really, I thought you would have said Packers, considering the eye-popping article you posted revealing what a scumbag that Aaron Rogers is…
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Don’t kill the messenger.
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:02 am
OMG! I completely missed it! Debo is a comedic genius! It’s all irony. Brilliant!
(I hope that’s true. Otherwise it’s ……scary)
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:04 am
Arguin about Palmer trade is worthless, boller wasn’t going to lead us anywhere, Pryor wasn’t going to lead us anymore , the first rd pick wasn’t going to do much , honestly I feel like with Palmer we might have went 0-16 ,what you guys think ?
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:04 am
DEBO JAMEATBALL is 308 pounds no waaay in hell is belichek bringing that guy in like someone said earlier they have ryan mallet ready when brady hangs them up could u imagine the boston press pats bring in russel to dump TOM TERRIFIC r u serious man wake up dude it aint ever gonna happen EVER u act like brady lead them to a 2 and 14 season they were one game away from playing the in there sixth super bowl BRADY is the man
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:05 am
There is only one team that Russell would fit in with. The Vikings. All that purple.
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:05 am
Mistic ,Debos sidekick is here to provide us with some more laughs , but he’s just not good as debo , Mistic is Jamarcus Russell of comedians
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:05 am
Do you morons realize that by saying pryor will compete for the starting job that it doesnt really matter if palmer wins in preseason?
This means that even if pryor ends up 2 out of camp that palmer will be on an insanely short leash,( long over due).
The minute palmer falters and has one of his turnover filled stupefying meltdowns HE WILL GET BENCHED!!!
Davis big mack and the entire city of oakland will be screaming for pryor.
This is the best news i have heard in raider land since the day we signed jc.
I will now fully endorse big mack based solely on this one move, and da doesnt screw it up I will support him too.
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:06 am
but at least shrek has given some tips to dennys servers…
hey i thought the coach was supposed to decide who plays and doesnt? shrek says its an open competition….
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:06 am
Trade cp3, dmac, kelly anybody not nailed down.. probably should have hired ault..
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:07 am
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:00 am
RaiderDebo Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:52 am
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:50 am
Dennis Allen reminds me of Jamarcus.
Both are very uninspiring and both will set this franchise back several years.
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The only guy that anyone can say has “set this franchise back several years” is Carson Palmer.
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I’m a huebris fan and I think if you are going to blame Carson for setting us back you should point the finger at the guy who made this trade. Raiders weren’t going anywhere fast with Boeller.
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I’ve softened my stance on the decision Hue made. Still pissed about it because it was disrespectful to our best QB since Gannon, Jason Campbell. At the end of the day though, Boller couldn’t get it done and there wasn’t an alternative if he wanted to turn a 4-2 start into a playoff run. Garrard would’ve been the guy, but he was injured. Cincy had us in a compromising position. So I don’t blame Hue as much as I do blame Palmer for stinking up the joint. I want him cut tonight!!
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:07 am
Debo is my favorite poster now, lol , I was kinda feeling just ok before I read that post
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:08 am
Good Lord. Reggie says Pryor will be given a chance to show if he can “u know, take over”, which after him saying repeatedly that they would be trying to “find where they can use him best”, would tell a sane person that he meant show in the preseason that he could take over “some day”. But we get the idiot ranting and raving. U have to hand it to him. He’s an ate renal optimist when it comes to his crush on Pryor.
“So ur saying there’s a chance? YESSSSS!”
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:08 am
RaiderDebo Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 6:52 am
Very surprised to see Jeff Garcia on his team. Wil be interesting to hear is comments in the coming months. Great move by JR though.
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Obviously it has to be so he can check out his smokin wifes @ss, what else could it be really?
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:08 am
DEBO the pats might bring in russel to play right tackle for brady that makes more sense since hes pushing 310
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:08 am
Next time i tell you something write it down and memorize it!!!
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i already memorized how joe webb and troy smith aren’t being used properly otherwise they’d be feasting on nfl defenses
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:09 am
Al_is_theraiders Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:58 am
four more lol….dang even thats short of ten and then…youre getting soft quack.
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I never said ten years. I did say five. If you’re on the right track after five years (meaning deep playoff runs), then you renew the GM. If not, you can him and give the next guy the same five years. Sooner or later, you WILL get a winner.
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:09 am
Lol Mistic got nothing on debo , Debo is like Michael Jordan n Mistic is like Adam Morrison , lol
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:10 am
Guest123 Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:59 am
Sorry, Reggie’s been a total failure at every level. He got rid of “outta wack” contracts. Big deal. Amy Trask could have done that with no football acumen.
Results speak for themselves. You are what your record says you are. Going from 8-8 to 4-12 is a failure of execution on any level you want to talk about. No way did Reggie plan on gutting the team and losing 4 more games in the process.
Reggie = FAIL
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So Bill Parcells and Bill Belichick should have been fired for taking over .500 (or near it) teams and only turning out 3-5 wins the first year?
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:10 am
does anyonehave a link to Reggies statement on the QB competition?because Sirius radio keeps announcing it as if it’s a real competition.
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:11 am
inonewordraider Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:08 am
Next time i tell you something write it down and memorize it!!!
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also memorized that andrew luck is not on the same planet as rgIII qb wise
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:11 am
maybe russel could play guard could u imagine him pulling and paving the way for a running back i could see it now hahaha wow russel what a loser keep the laughs coming DEBO ur pure entertainment
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:11 am
368.mcfadden20. Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:09 am
Lol Mistic got nothing on debo , Debo is like Michael Jordan n Mistic is like Adam Morrison , lol
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Don’t insult “The Stache” like that
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:12 am
Yes! I get it now. It’s like Andy Kaufman and Bob Zmuda. Brilliant, concept comedy that only the sharpest can even appreciate. I’m in on the joke now! Love it! More please!
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:14 am
how much $ does it save us if we cut palmer? if it’s alot we should cut him in favor of pryor, obviously not worth what he’s being paid so what do we save?
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:14 am
DJ Johnny Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:42 am
Russell is the best qb the Raiders have ever had and you guys never gave him a chance. But your bald headed hero Gradkowski? Oh yeah. You give HIM every chance in the world.
It’s sickening. In fact, i’m going to throw up right now in disgust.
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Lol, the comedy in here today is just………AWESOME!
There…I just threw up. You happy now?
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:14 am
Interesting article on jamarcuss.
I feel good about the fact that he has come to the point that he is able to find the drive to prove himself once again.
i could see him landing in arizona or perhaps Jacksonville as a back up initially, and possibly challenging for a starting job shortly after much like vick when he came back.
I rooting for him, i think he was a kid that landed in a perfect shid storm in oakland, and his lack of wordly knowledge & maturity hurt him tremendously.
Good luck jamarcuss
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:15 am
Marks hair Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:57 am
I didnt read exactly what reggie said but sirius has been reporting reggie has announced an open QB competition between the 2..
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He almost has to do this right now. Either TP wins the job, or he might have to look at a change of position, or scenery. Ultimatiely, it will put the best player on the field when it matters most, and that’s all that counts. Competition is good.
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:16 am
inonewordraider Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:08 am
Next time i tell you something write it down and memorize it!!!
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i already memorized how joe webb and troy smith aren’t being used properly otherwise they’d be feasting on nfl defenses
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is that all you got loser?
let me remind you where i kicked your azzz
grad vs jc
jc vs palmer
pryor vs palmer
cam netwon
rgIII
russel wilson
need i go on?
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:16 am
So Bill Parcells and Bill Belichick should have been fired for taking over .500 (or near it) teams and only turning out 3-5 wins the first year?
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They are the exception and not the rule. Reggie is not in their league and I doubt he will ever be in their league.
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:16 am
Troy smith! Joe Webb! I get it now!
But honestly. Debo is the king. It’s like a guy seriously touting Barry Goldwater for president.
And completely straight faced.
It was there in front of us the whole time. I mean duh. No one would actually still think Russell would be great.
Just brilliant. I applaud u sirs.
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:16 am
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
Raiders weren’t going anywhere fast with Boeller.
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I think they were.
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:17 am
jamarcus or knapp? who effected who? lol
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:17 am
Tony Sparona is in the house!!!
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:17 am
I think its funny that because pryor is being given a shot, and jamarcuss is in the news
suddenly those that argued against these truths are left to nothing more than TRYING TO INSULT THE VERY PEOPLE THAT TOLD YOU IT WOULD HAPPEN!!!
LOL
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:18 am
382.Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:16 am
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
Raiders weren’t going anywhere fast with Boeller.
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I think they were.
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Boller is like Matt Lienart, except he can throw it off target farther.
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:18 am
370? Anybody? Bueller?
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:18 am
Sparano……
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:18 am
This Just in: Raiders Hire Tony Sparano as Assistant Head Coach/Offensive Line Coach…
I like it.
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:18 am
Marks hair Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:45 am
so nobody thinks that Reggie announcing TP and Palmer will be in an open competition next year is interesting?
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It would be more interesting if I actually saw a story or link. Did I just miss that part, my bad if that’s the case?
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:18 am
5 years if no then another guy for 5 years then no another…lol if this was right we would be watching knapp for 5 years! thats lunacy!
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:18 am
Marks hair Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:10 am
does anyonehave a link to Reggies statement on the QB competition?because Sirius radio keeps announcing it as if it’s a real competition.
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got this….
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/terrelle-pryor-will-have-chance-to-start-at-qb-012213
lip service………
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:19 am
And suddenly purvis makes a great pro-boller zinger! This board is the best comedy blog in the country!
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:19 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:14 am
Interesting article on jamarcuss.
I feel good about the fact that he has come to the point that he is able to find the drive to prove himself once again.
i could see him landing in arizona or perhaps Jacksonville as a back up initially, and possibly challenging for a starting job shortly after much like vick when he came back.
I rooting for him, i think he was a kid that landed in a perfect shid storm in oakland, and his lack of wordly knowledge & maturity hurt him tremendously.
Good luck jamarcuss
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Yep. Always room in the league for a gun. Just look at the two starting SB QBs. I hope it’s not Arizona or Jville though. New England, Cincy and Dallas would all be perfect destinations. His gun with teams loaded at the skill positions and good OLs. Deadly.
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:19 am
Good hire!
The Oakland Raiders have hired former Jets offensive coordinator Tony Sparano as their assistant head coach/offensive line
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:20 am
And when the Reggie gives lip service, that’s some lip!
Wokka Wokka Wokka!
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:20 am
389.MikieG Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:18 am
This Just in: Raiders Hire Tony Sparano as Assistant Head Coach/Offensive Line Coach…
I like it.
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Well at least we got our next intermediate Head Coach with a little bit of experience.
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:21 am
# 9 was about as equal as all the other thing done by Reggie. Any new hire can come here and change things, get new guys, and save money . That happens in everyday life everywhere. Where is the production from all the move you say he made. Did any non-rookie players get better? Power hungry Reggie did not want any thing to do with any gains the Raiders made because the gains were under a head coach not related to him and his guys. Reggie thought without regard to raw analysis recorded in the Raiders progress from years, he could install systematic schemes that did may play to the strengths of his players. Doing things his way is first priority and the Raiders are second place and it shows.
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Dan78 Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:54 am
RaiderDuck Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:39 am
2romes Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:35 am
Reggie is doing a good job? Where? Here in Oakland? List all the accomplishments of Reggie in Oakland!! Maybe he will do better next year. Can’t do much worst. Here’s to Reggie doing better 4-12 next year.
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1. Getting a good contributor for worthless Bruce Campbell
2. Getting a draft pick for equally worthless Louis Murphy
3. Upgrading Oakland to a modern organization
4. Starting the process of ridding us of Al’s ridiculous contracts. Routt and Wimbley were only a start.
5. Dumping worthless slugs like DVD in favor of promising young players like Brandian Ross
6. Drafting an instant starter in Miles Burris at the end of Round 4.
7. Locating UDFA find Rod Streater
8. Ending Al’s scholarship. We Al alive, RoMac would have started every game this year
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9.Dont forget he got rid of the head projector and brought in a computer… A freaking computer…
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:21 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:17 am
I think its funny that because pryor is being given a shot, and jamarcuss is in the news
suddenly those that argued against these truths are left to nothing more than TRYING TO INSULT THE VERY PEOPLE THAT TOLD YOU IT WOULD HAPPEN!!!
LOL
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It’s the best dude! What I love about this board. One of these days, these clowns will STFU and listen.
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:21 am
LOL THIS COMEDY BLOG IS OF THE HOOK WITH DEBO AND HIS SIDEKICK MIST!C , keep it coming guys
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:22 am
MikieG Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:18 am
This Just in: Raiders Hire Tony Sparano as Assistant Head Coach/Offensive Line Coach…
I like it.
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Good hire, where did ya here this at? Link? lol
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:22 am
Nobody puts a 16million dollar qb in an open comp with a 3rd round pick unless theres serious thoughts of change. Trade or short leash for cp3.
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:22 am
Tell me Sparano is Power guy.
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:22 am
RaiderDebo Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:21 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:17 am
I think its funny that because pryor is being given a shot, and jamarcuss is in the news
suddenly those that argued against these truths are left to nothing more than TRYING TO INSULT THE VERY PEOPLE THAT TOLD YOU IT WOULD HAPPEN!!!
LOL
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It’s the best dude! What I love about this board. One of these days, these clowns will STFU and listen.
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HHAAHHAHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAHAHHAHA that was funny
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:22 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
Hopefully we cut palmer outright so that we can save some cap space and spend the draft and money on defense and o line.
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The finer points of the NFL still elude you. Along with the not so fine points.
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:22 am
is that all you got loser?
let me remind you where i kicked your azzz
grad vs jc
jc vs palmer
pryor vs palmer
cam netwon
rgIII
russel wilson
need i go on?
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-me and every gm in the league know cp >jc
me the redskin braintrust and almost everyone else
-knew RGIII would be good
-never said a bad thing about wilson
-the jury on cam newton is still out
the only time you’ve gotten me specifically is jc over grad, try again
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:22 am
shrek hired tony sparano before the lunch special…he really does listen to his gut….
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:22 am
Oh Shefter on twitter just saw it
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:23 am
Sparano will have the o-line playing fiesty and nasty….
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:23 am
Well at least we got our next intermediate Head Coach with a little bit of experience.
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Just what I was thinking. Sparano could be our intirim HC by the bye week.
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:23 am
This just in: Russell announces comeback attempt. Missdick proclaims victory.
This board is filled with those semi-retarded guys that u laugh at at first cuz u think they’re drunk, and then u realize the truth and u hope no one saw u laughing.
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:24 am
Just saw the Sparano news. “Assistant head coach.” Hmmmm, sounds like they hired a mentor for DA?
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:25 am
Here is why you say there is open competition for every position, because than everybody works their ass off to win, compared to say this or that guy has it on lock down, then back up just works out like a back up , get it?
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:26 am
well at least sparano is a gap power scheme guy…
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:27 am
The_Judge37 Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:20 am
389.MikieG Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:18 am
This Just in: Raiders Hire Tony Sparano as Assistant Head Coach/Offensive Line Coach…
I like it.
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Well at least we got our next intermediate Head Coach with a little bit of experience.
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Good point, but I highly doubt if we canned D.A we would hire Sparano–
I love the fact that he is an Ex. Head Coach–its exactly what we need, someone who has worked around the league, has experience, and has done the job before. Can you imagine the circus he just came from with the Jets? They say the Raiders are dysfunctional, but nothing compares to everything that New Yawk comprises…
Love this hire, and I love that the coaches are going to fit the players to what they do best. Knapp and crew were FOOLS to do what they did last year–now that we have Rolando Russell outta here, our Defense can get fixed either through the draft or Free Agency, and we can get that side of the ball shored up, and dial in the Offense–
Shoulda done all this crap last year, but oh well–If’s and but’s were candy and nuts…
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:28 am
oh yeah asst hc…sounds more like they are letting DA sweat a little…do it! get rid of opie!
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:28 am
Thanx poprox.
Good hire. Im liking this yrs staff
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:29 am
inonewordraider Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:22 am
is that all you got loser?
let me remind you where i kicked your azzz
grad vs jc
jc vs palmer
pryor vs palmer
cam netwon
rgIII
russel wilson
need i go on?
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-me and every gm in the league know cp >jc
me the redskin braintrust and almost everyone else
-knew RGIII would be good
-never said a bad thing about wilson
-the jury on cam newton is still out
the only time you’ve gotten me specifically is jc over grad, try again
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lol you are a loser and a liar
I schooled you on rgIII when he wasnt even known in texas let alone by this blog.
You and every other clown said i was a racist promoting black qbs and he was an athlete not a passer though you had never seen him play.
LOL
you also tried to tell me like jfb that russel wilson was not an nfl qb when i touted him while he was at nc state
if the jury is out on newton the man that has THROWN FOR MORE YARDS AND RUN FOR MORE YARDS THAN ANY OTHER PLAYER IN HISTORY OVER HIS FIRST TWO SEASONS AND ACCOUNTED FOR A WHOPPING 65 TDS THAT JURY NEEDS TO BE SHOT!!!
please stfu i been beating you down for years in here and its boring
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:29 am
This is one of those jokes that I have to wait a LONG time for the punch line. I mean it’s been four years and debo is still in character.
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:30 am
Sparano hire should help our o-line get back to what it was a couple of years ago…
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:30 am
Marks hair Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 10:45 am
so nobody thinks that Reggie announcing TP and Palmer will be in an open competition next year is interesting?
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I’d be more surprised if he didn’t say it. DA and Reggie have been all about getting rid of the image of the Al scholarships and creating competion at all spots, all the time. This is the lip service that I’d expect to get from a “modern era GM” because they all say the same thing all the time.
The same will be said about every draft pick and UDFAs brought into camp. They are there to compete for a job, whether there is a realistic expatation that they actually can win it or not.
And his stated opinion on this increases the chance of TP becoming the starter by approximately zero percent.
Next story please …
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:32 am
i think shrek was just hungry and wanted to get the hire over and done with…
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:32 am
wow sparano huh not bad dont mind him as a oline coach. As for russel hes waaay to stupid to be a NFL QB gotta have brains to play that position need to process info quickly russel is as dumb as a box of rcoks again he will make a good RIGHT TACKLE O and JC is the worst QB IN THE NFL give it two years and he wont he wont even be in the league anymore thats FACT
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:33 am
U guys are so owned. I predicted Peyton manning. U predicted Tom Brady when he was still in grade school. I predicted ken stabler.
Right now I’m going in record as predicting great things for:
Geno
Barkley
That nc state kid
Bray
Manuel
Other drafted and non-drafted white and black qb’s.
BOOK IT!
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:34 am
No mac 20 i dont.. every team has backups but very few put their high priced QB in and open competition with a mid round pick.. but it could be lip service and not really open. we’ll see how they split the reps. in preseason Carson should get most all the reps under normal circumstances.
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:35 am
Umm. Except Reggie didn’t actually say that. But the comedians are killing me so I’m not gonna bring it up. Oh wait. I just did.
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:36 am
SCAM NEWTON sucks 13 and 19 as a starter he will never win the NFC south my boy MATTY ICE WAVE OF THE FUTURE and DREW BREES OWN scam newton and as long as MATTY ICE AND DREW BREES R IN THE SOUTH poor scam stands NOO chance hes a loser and very overrated i love his press conferences when hes sooo down its great dude looks like he wants to jump off a bridge lol
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:37 am
Tony Sparano? Ugh! why not bring back Wiz 2.0 and Wylie? I thought we were making progress with Bobby April. Another unimpressive hire.
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:37 am
Mistic, serious question……
You scan the college ranks for QB’s that will play New Wave football… What do you think of Marcus Mariota or Johnny Manzeil? Seriously, those guys will be landing here in the next 2-3 years and they’re both Sh*t HOT with that style of attack…I’m bein’ real here.
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:38 am
I really would like to get rid of Palmer and his big contract he’s keeping us stuck in mediocrity. If you’re not first you’re last!
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:39 am
ya i predicted mannings, brady, rodgers, ryan,young,montana,favre,roethlisberger,aikman consider ursels OWNED LOL
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:41 am
dt42…i was hoping for that too
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:43 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:16 am
need i go on?
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Yes.
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:45 am
I liked what Wylie and Wiz did for us, but that said, I’m glad we got Sparano. He’ll establish the power run game and he’s got some good ideas on how to run an offense. I am sure that Olson can learn a thing or two from him. If there’s one thing missing on the coaching staff is some veteran leadership in the trenches. I think he helps show Dennis Allen a few of the ropes he was missing and can help adapt Olson’s system quickly. I’m very much in favor of this hire even if I’m still skeptical of Reggie. Hated the Olson dumpster diving hire but I’m down with this move.
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:47 am
he is the wildcat guru..lol, Im sure he will work with Olason and get TP alot more playin time..Im starting to like this staff a whole lot better tha last years
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:48 am
Can see them having a wildcat package with DMAC and TP6….
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:51 am
thats where TP will get his playing time next year running wildcat not QB
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:52 am
Plus DMC was the King of the wildcat in college, we might actually see some creativity from this staff, something that we lacked last year
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:52 am
Trade back
1. Mingo or Jordan
2. If huff stays at CB, TJ McDonald ; if huff returns to FS, Xavier Rhodes
3. Markus Wheaton
4. Datone Jones
5. Joseph Fauria
6. Marcus Lattimore
7. Bpa
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:58 am
Sparano to be asst hc and line coach ….LMAO!!!
with each announcement coming from almeda the grad fan/ palmer worshipers are left spinning. this latest move is like right cross knocking the impostors smooth the fugg out!!!
Just look at the sequence of events and it doesnt look good for palmer the bungles (soon to be raider) reject.
1. pryor impressed in preseason and out played all of our qbs but was buried by knapp and da on the bench. yet the show he put on vs detroit wasnt noticed by Davis jr. this is why he was still intrigued and later demanded to get him on the field.
2. prepping for carolina pryor gets his first real practice time as the scout qb and impressed teammates and coaches. tis forced the staff to get him actual playing time in “packages”
3. pryor did get on the field in packages and loo0ked good. so good that he was given a chance to compete with lienart after palmer was injured.
4. pryor beats lienart in a week of split rep competition his first real practice running our offense. then destroys the charger defense with a wildly entertaining blend of throwing prowess and athleticism. he made some throws that were amazing and showed with a full season of practice he can be a starter and a special player.
5. Knapp is fired shortly thereafter with a cloud over him based on why pryor was hidden all season along with damcs drop off.
6. olsen is hired and wants to return to power blocking and deep passing. This isnt a good thing for palmer as he flat out stunk trying to throw deep. in fact he posted a horrendous 24% completion percentage on passes that went further than 20 yards down field. pryor in one start and the game vs detroit proved he can get the ball down field better than the now noodle armed palmer.
7. Sparono hired. Sporano was the master mind behind Miamis so called wild cat offense….A ZONE READ OFFENSE WITH OUT A QB!!!! NOW SPARONO WILL HAVE MAJOR INPUT ON O LINE AND THE OFFENSE TO HELP TEACH THOSE CONCEPTS!!!!
LMAO palmer worship is a black hole of uncertainty at the moment and a major segmnent of this board is being punished for their folly by the raider brass.
You don have to be shaft to connect the dots. Make no mistake, these moves clearly tell you what coming and at some point next year pryor will be the starter
BOOK IT!!!
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:03 pm
Isn’t Pryor a Palmer worshiper?
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:05 pm
theghostronin79 Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:37 am
Mistic, serious question……
You scan the college ranks for QB’s that will play New Wave football… What do you think of Marcus Mariota or Johnny Manzeil? Seriously, those guys will be landing here in the next 2-3 years and they’re both Sh*t HOT with that style of attack…I’m bein’ real here.
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i have already posted on johhny football, one of my favorite college guys to watch.
I think he is a faster version of jeff garcia.
He is a playmaker but i dont see the arm strength to be included in the wave of the future.
This does not mean he cant play on sunday he has the clutch gene and his mobilty could off set his pop gun, in the right offense.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:06 pm
Good thing these guys took the time out of their busy schedules to announce that we have a new OL/AHC
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:08 pm
What an imagination. Fascinating.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:08 pm
hmmmm
sparano plus dmac and pryor!!!!!
YEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!
HYBRID OFFENSE WITH SEVERAL GUYS THAT WERE STARS IN COLLEGE RUNNING THIS ATTACK!!!! DMAC THE ORIGINAL WILD HOG AND PRYOR WHO RAN ZONE READ AS PART OF HIS OFFENSE AS A BUCK EYE!!!!
LOL…..uh oh dare i say it?
ME DAVIS JR AND BIG MACK ARE IN LOCK STEP!!!!!!!!
Look for the pistol and shotgun spread next year
you heard it here first
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:10 pm
Yeah. Pryor is a gold haired hero worshiper.
I think even Pryor would roll his eyes.
“Uh. Thanks and everything but ur creeping me out dude. Security!”
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:10 pm
guest123 Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:23 am
Well at least we got our next intermediate Head Coach with a little bit of experience.
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Just what I was thinking. Sparano could be our intirim HC by the bye week.
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Uhh, I think the days of firing head coaches like they are dispensable as pencils died with Al.
DA is our coach for at least two more years.
Get used to it…
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:12 pm
DMc is part of the wave of the future!
And we know tebow got off with sparano this season.
Yes!
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:15 pm
Super excited for this upcoming season, now e have something worth watching.
Lets grab a defensive player that is worthy of number 3 pick, if they feel none is worth that high of a pick trade down and stock the pond
Yes now i dont have to only be excited to watch out of market football, I can see the wave of the future and the new football paradigm right here!!!
You can bet pryor is already in olsen and sporanos ears and grinding away
palmer you are on notice!!!! i couldnt be happier
Give thanks
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:16 pm
dr_robert Says:
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:10 pm
Yeah. Pryor is a gold haired hero worshiper.
I think even Pryor would roll his eyes.
“Uh. Thanks and everything but ur creeping me out dude. Security!”
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It wouldn’t surprise me if Pryor already has a restraining order against Mistic.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:19 pm
Lol. That never stops a stalker. Their love will never cease.
January 23rd, 2013 at 2:58 pm
Maybe what Callahan did with changing the game plan last minute was inadvertant sabotage and may not have been literally on purpose….but it was sure indirect sabotage.
Gannon is correct in saying the audible signals and changes at the line should have been changed along with sticking to a more run orientated play action attack with screens to the RB’s and then taking shots deep.
February 6th, 2013 at 7:17 am
New Mexico calls this land ours
February 6th, 2013 at 7:22 am
Palmer will take a paycut to stay, we won’t restructure again because he only has 2 years remaining on his deal, and that just puts us on the hook for more cap hit. Right now he is at $8 mill cap hit to be cut, BUT if he is willing to take a pay cut and we keep him, that cap number will come down to 4 mill (+ his salary). It’s a tricky situation, but Palmer has always said it is not about the money. He, IMO has 2 options, stay with us for less money, or go back to the couch. No one is trading for him, and I think he can get more money from us given our situation than any where else.
February 6th, 2013 at 7:27 am
I don’t see how Palmer playing with a higher cap number is better than him not playing with a lower cap number.
We went 4-12 with him, he turned it over a ton and couldn’t finish the season.
I’ll pass on round 2.5
February 6th, 2013 at 7:32 am
I don’t see how, given our cap situation, you could be ok with paying a player $8 million not to be here, if you could get him to play for the same $8 million or less. seems crazy to me.
February 6th, 2013 at 7:38 am
Sorry if I 100% disagree that we were 4-12 BECAUSE of Palmer. That is just fvckin crazy talk to me. Sh1t receivers, limited production from the running game, unimaginitive offense. Awful defense until the last 4 games. Yeah I can see how you would blame ALL of that on 1 guy.
February 6th, 2013 at 7:39 am
The cap doesn’t come into to play with me at the QB position, because I feel it is too important of a position.
I am a firm believer in the old “don’t quit your job until you have a better one” though and I don’t think TP is better than Carson.
So my whole focus on cutting Palmer revolves around drafting Geno Smith as well.
As far as getting him to play at under $8 this year, just sounds like we will be doing this whole dance again in 12 months.
Either commit one more year to him and just leave the contract alone, or can him and take the hit up-front.
February 6th, 2013 at 7:42 am
I don’t blame it ALL on him, and am willing to let some of that fall on Knapp.
But he missed PLENTY of open WR’s, threw plenty of horrendous INT’s, had plenty of moments to fight back and he would throw a 1 yard pass on 3rd and 8, to the only route that was short of the sticks.
Not a winner.
February 6th, 2013 at 7:47 am
Bengals went 4-12 with him, then made the playoff the next two years.
Raiders were 12-11 over roughly a 1.5 year span before, now what like 8-16 since.
Again, not ALL Palmers fault,but certainly a lot of that is.
He turns it over too much, checks out too much, doesn’t inspire his teammates to play better enough, and cost too much.
Draft Geno!!!!
February 6th, 2013 at 8:18 am
I feel Palmer did admirably considering what he was given to work with. The 4-12 Bengals had TO and Ochocinco fighting over the ball, and not getting the job done, and a woefully underperforming defense, it wasn’t like all they did was change Palmer for Dalton and suddenly became a playoff team. If Palmer had AJ Green to throw to, and for opponents to gameplan against, and a defense that didn’t allow 30ppg he could take us to the playoffs too.
February 6th, 2013 at 8:53 am
462,
There’s more than a few here who think it doesn’t matter how bad your defense is, or how weak your running game is, or that your receivers don’t even rank in the top 50 in the league and have numerous drops…all it comes down to is your QB.
Nothing’s gonna change the mindset of “Palmer was 4-11″ even though he can’t personally catch the passes he throws or play shut down defense, or play special teams and prevent long kick and ount returns.
February 6th, 2013 at 9:08 am
It’s funny to see how fans of other teams react to certain things.
With all this talk of Dalton doing things Palmer never did, Cincy is still w/o a playoff win since 1990 season.
Here’s a couple comments from the Bengal faithful before their playoff loss at Houston this yr.:
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