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By: DJ Johnny

DJ Johnny — Wed, 06 Feb 2013 17:08:04 +0000

It’s funny to see how fans of other teams react to certain things.

With all this talk of Dalton doing things Palmer never did, Cincy is still w/o a playoff win since 1990 season.

Here’s a couple comments from the Bengal faithful before their playoff loss at Houston this yr.:

Brett6482Alright Bengals; your loyal fans have been waiting over 20 years for a playoff win and some glimmer of hope that we may see a Superbowl ring before we die. Today is the day you make our dreams come true!!!! DON’T LET US DOWN!!!!!!!!! GO BENGALS!!…more
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January 5 2013, 1:30 PMTell Your Friends DallofFame23bengals are gonna shock the world!!!! Mark my words and all you sore loser steeler fans have fun watching us in the playoffs this year. Hope you have a good view from the losers lounge!!!…more
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By: DJ Johnny

DJ Johnny — Wed, 06 Feb 2013 16:53:05 +0000

462,

There’s more than a few here who think it doesn’t matter how bad your defense is, or how weak your running game is, or that your receivers don’t even rank in the top 50 in the league and have numerous drops…all it comes down to is your QB.

Nothing’s gonna change the mindset of “Palmer was 4-11″ even though he can’t personally catch the passes he throws or play shut down defense, or play special teams and prevent long kick and ount returns.

By: bcz24

bcz24 — Wed, 06 Feb 2013 16:18:55 +0000

I feel Palmer did admirably considering what he was given to work with. The 4-12 Bengals had TO and Ochocinco fighting over the ball, and not getting the job done, and a woefully underperforming defense, it wasn’t like all they did was change Palmer for Dalton and suddenly became a playoff team. If Palmer had AJ Green to throw to, and for opponents to gameplan against, and a defense that didn’t allow 30ppg he could take us to the playoffs too.

By: Just Fire Baby

Just Fire Baby — Wed, 06 Feb 2013 15:47:15 +0000

Bengals went 4-12 with him, then made the playoff the next two years.

Raiders were 12-11 over roughly a 1.5 year span before, now what like 8-16 since.

Again, not ALL Palmers fault,but certainly a lot of that is.

He turns it over too much, checks out too much, doesn’t inspire his teammates to play better enough, and cost too much.

Draft Geno!!!!

By: Just Fire Baby

Just Fire Baby — Wed, 06 Feb 2013 15:42:04 +0000

I don’t blame it ALL on him, and am willing to let some of that fall on Knapp.

But he missed PLENTY of open WR’s, threw plenty of horrendous INT’s, had plenty of moments to fight back and he would throw a 1 yard pass on 3rd and 8, to the only route that was short of the sticks.

Not a winner.

By: Just Fire Baby

Just Fire Baby — Wed, 06 Feb 2013 15:39:43 +0000

The cap doesn’t come into to play with me at the QB position, because I feel it is too important of a position.

I am a firm believer in the old “don’t quit your job until you have a better one” though and I don’t think TP is better than Carson.

So my whole focus on cutting Palmer revolves around drafting Geno Smith as well.

As far as getting him to play at under $8 this year, just sounds like we will be doing this whole dance again in 12 months.

Either commit one more year to him and just leave the contract alone, or can him and take the hit up-front.

By: bcz24

bcz24 — Wed, 06 Feb 2013 15:38:54 +0000

Sorry if I 100% disagree that we were 4-12 BECAUSE of Palmer. That is just fvckin crazy talk to me. Sh1t receivers, limited production from the running game, unimaginitive offense. Awful defense until the last 4 games. Yeah I can see how you would blame ALL of that on 1 guy.

By: bcz24

bcz24 — Wed, 06 Feb 2013 15:32:20 +0000

I don’t see how, given our cap situation, you could be ok with paying a player $8 million not to be here, if you could get him to play for the same $8 million or less. seems crazy to me.

By: Just Fire Baby

Just Fire Baby — Wed, 06 Feb 2013 15:27:38 +0000

I don’t see how Palmer playing with a higher cap number is better than him not playing with a lower cap number.

We went 4-12 with him, he turned it over a ton and couldn’t finish the season.

I’ll pass on round 2.5

By: bcz24

bcz24 — Wed, 06 Feb 2013 15:22:31 +0000

Palmer will take a paycut to stay, we won’t restructure again because he only has 2 years remaining on his deal, and that just puts us on the hook for more cap hit. Right now he is at $8 mill cap hit to be cut, BUT if he is willing to take a pay cut and we keep him, that cap number will come down to 4 mill (+ his salary). It’s a tricky situation, but Palmer has always said it is not about the money. He, IMO has 2 options, stay with us for less money, or go back to the couch. No one is trading for him, and I think he can get more money from us given our situation than any where else.