Raiders close `Mt. Davis’ _ capacity 53,200
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, February 6th, 2013 at 3:57 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The Raiders announced Wednesday they will reduce capacity at O.co Coliseum by nearly 10,000 to 53,200 in 2013 and relocate approximately 4,850 fans from the east side high-rise structure known as “Mt. Davis.’’
Raiders CEO Amy Trask described the decision as a “tool’’ to insure games remain on local television as well as promote more of a community atmosphere.
Fans who paid $260 per season ticket on the east side structure will be moved to the west side third deck and their tickets will cost $250 this season _ or $10 per game including preseason games.
Fans near the 50-yard line in the third deck who were paying $610 per ticket will have their ticket prices cut to $250.
The Raiders had just one television blackout in eight regular-season games in 2012 with help from the NFL’s `85 percent’’ rule, which allowed them to declare a sellout (and give the NFL a bigger cut of the ticket sales) if 85 percent of their non-suite tickets were sold by Thursday.
The average regular-season attendance for the Raiders in 2012 was 54,217.
Trask said closing of the east structure would be made in lieu of the 85 percent rule. The club is also planning to eliminate other “tools’’ to achieve sellouts such as 2-for-1 ticket giveaways sponsored by companies such as Compass Media and Hawaiian Airlines.
The A’s have tarped off sections of the third deck since 2006, reducing capacity for baseball to the 34,000 range. The Jacksonville Jaguars have reduced capacity by approximately 10,000 in the same manner.
According to Trask, NFL rules state that once a club closes off a section, it cannot be re-opened for any games regardless of ticket demand _ even in the case of the postseason.
Trask said the Raiders are continuing to focus their energy for a new stadium on the current site and have been in talks with the city and county, with the next round of discussions coming next week.
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February 6th, 2013 at 4:00 pm
get the new stadium, if you build it they will come
February 6th, 2013 at 4:02 pm
dr slob says
“you want things for free”
no i want want payment for the work we have already done.
If a man steals he is charged with restitution, regardless of how long has passed between the actual transgression and when the judgment is levied.
February 6th, 2013 at 4:03 pm
Woohoooo.
February 6th, 2013 at 4:04 pm
No early first day cuts?
That’s kinda surprising.
February 6th, 2013 at 4:05 pm
FREEDOM!
February 6th, 2013 at 4:06 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 3:58 pm
Raiderjambo Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 3:41 pm
Moving forward can only truly begin when those that are guilty take responsibility for what they have done.
True. Problem is they’re dead and gone. It’s a new era we’re living in.
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untrue sadly
proof looks at the movie django wewre we are disrespeced with the n word by people that classify themselves as white. that comes form this year.
look at the flase history movie about Betty Shabazz and Coretta King made by the lifetime channel.
look at the history channel showing the egyptian dynasies as white and hannibal as white and the sumarians as white.
These are all new programs.
Look at the racist trash posted on this board by so called new people that classify them selves as white
columbine killers were noted white supremacist
the sihk temple shooter was a white supremacist
derryl delmond and rice, killed james byrd a black man they are white supremacist
mesrhle the killer of oscar grant
zimmerman killer of Trayvonne Martin white supremacist.
notice that all of these killers are YOUNG WHITE MEN!!!
Pleases top with the lie that those that classify themselves as white are not responsible today.
the obituary pages disagree with that take
February 6th, 2013 at 4:08 pm
Wow a post. Finally. I wonder what the record is between posts.
Build a new stadium. Give us our own private urinals! Give us wider concourses! Build the stands so the fans are basically on top of the field. Don’t build the stands recessed back. Give the stadium a true home field advantage for the Raiders. A stadium that is almost impossible for a visiting team to win in.
February 6th, 2013 at 4:09 pm
back to football
if they really want to sell tickets they will not be able to sell carson and dmac as the “dynamic duo” or as carson ‘validating the trade”
as it was promoted last e yar by local media (medes)
in fact rolling with Pryor once deemed as only wanted by the ‘radical members of the fan base” maybe a good way to create interest in ticket sales.
February 6th, 2013 at 4:12 pm
Certainly going to be interesting to see who this group tags as it’s face of the franchise.
February 6th, 2013 at 4:15 pm
It’s because YOU HAVE SUCKED FOR 10 SEASONS. Sh**, I’m surprised that they have had the crowds that they’ve had.
February 6th, 2013 at 4:16 pm
dr_robert Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 3:58 pm
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how about u idiot? u just said whites weren’t human.
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I never said that
February 6th, 2013 at 4:17 pm
The lockout has ended…Print it mofos…
February 6th, 2013 at 4:18 pm
We were so close to 5,000! …im kinda sad we didnt make it. If only Dr Bob and mistic couldve gone at one last time
February 6th, 2013 at 4:18 pm
Mt davis has begun to crumble…
February 6th, 2013 at 4:18 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 4:16 pm
dr_robert Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 3:58 pm
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how about u idiot? u just said whites weren’t human.
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I never said that
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yes u did.
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 3:22 pm
3. actually there are only two races and it is the human race, (hue man or man with color) and the white man ( man with no color)
February 6th, 2013 at 4:19 pm
#13 who knows maybe someone will start a revolution and head back there and finish it…
February 6th, 2013 at 4:20 pm
look at the flase history movie about Betty Shabazz and Coretta King made by the lifetime channel.
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You watch the Lifetime channel????
“Lifetime Television is committed to offering the highest quality entertainment and information programming, and advocating a wide range of issues affecting women and their families.”
February 6th, 2013 at 4:21 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 4:02 pm
dr slob says
“you want things for free”
no i want want payment for the work we have already done.
If a man steals he is charged with restitution, regardless of how long has passed between the actual transgression and when the judgment is levied.
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1) u ain’t done sh1t. the slaves did. not u.
and the slave owners are dead. they can’t pay. u want all of america to pay a debt to u that isn’t owed to u. u want freebies. ur more than capable of earning. just like everyone else.
being black is not a disability.
but being a racist is.
February 6th, 2013 at 4:21 pm
Hey Jerry, how about break down the cap, prospective casualties, cap hit vs 2013 salary. Just a thought. I dont want to do your job for you, but you know, maybe make this site worth visiting.
February 6th, 2013 at 4:22 pm
Walrushooker Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 4:18 pm
We were so close to 5,000! …im kinda sad we didnt make it. If only Dr Bob and mistic couldve gone at one last time
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sorry. i haven’t been here much for a few days. i tried.
February 6th, 2013 at 4:23 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 4:02 pm
dr slob says
“you want things for free”
no i want want payment for the work we have already done.
If a man steals he is charged with restitution, regardless of how long has passed between the actual transgression and when the judgment is levied.
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ever heard of the statute of limitations?
it basically says “hey, it’s been a long time. get over it.”
February 6th, 2013 at 4:23 pm
dr_robert Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 4:18 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 4:16 pm
dr_robert Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 3:58 pm
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how about u idiot? u just said whites weren’t human.
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I never said that
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yes u did.
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 3:22 pm
3. actually there are only two races and it is the human race, (hue man or man with color) and the white man ( man with no color)
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your an idiot Hue man, and human are not the same thing
human is the accepted terminology for a natural person
hue man is an interpretation meaning man of color.
all men are the same in that regard accept for one.
February 6th, 2013 at 4:23 pm
IGAG has told you they are dumbing down the seats because they can’t put a winning team out there. They don’t know how to and they don’t want to. No seats no money for quality players.
Or Reggie is waiting for IHOP to finance the new stadium.
IHOP FIELD STADIUM HOUSE O THE OAKLAND RAIDERS
Pathetic
IGAG has posted.
February 6th, 2013 at 4:24 pm
LOL at you people.
Btw, why do you have paintings of Jesus looking black or white? He was middle easterner. He was hairy and had a big nose.
February 6th, 2013 at 4:26 pm
the tarp should have a portrait of Al on it. as he is always watching.
February 6th, 2013 at 4:26 pm
JC is like me. He is Palestinian.
February 6th, 2013 at 4:28 pm
If you are not brown, you are a clown!
February 6th, 2013 at 4:29 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 4:23 pm
dr_robert Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 4:18 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 4:16 pm
dr_robert Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 3:58 pm
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how about u idiot? u just said whites weren’t human.
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I never said that
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yes u did.
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 3:22 pm
3. actually there are only two races and it is the human race, (hue man or man with color) and the white man ( man with no color)
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your an idiot Hue man, and human are not the same thing
human is the accepted terminology for a natural person
hue man is an interpretation meaning man of color.
all men are the same in that regard accept for one.
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LOL! “Hue man”? what the fu@k is that?
and here’s where ur argument becomes completely moronic.
u think white people are white? HAHHAHAHHAHA!!!
white people are very light brown. tan. beige. there are no “white” people.
in fact, calling people black or white (or yellow) was made up by white racists, trying to paint africans as sinister, and themselves as pure.
it’s a complete fallacy. it’s all just light or dark pigment.
oh wait! i just figured it out! u think we’re all albinos! LMFAO!
February 6th, 2013 at 4:30 pm
hopefully a younger portrait so it dosent scare theb kids.
February 6th, 2013 at 4:31 pm
Raider O Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 4:24 pm
LOL at you people.
Btw, why do you have paintings of Jesus looking black or white? He was middle easterner. He was hairy and had a big nose.
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this is true. the middle-east is the hub of the world. people started as brown. they became lighter as they moved away from the equator and darker as they moved closer. duh.
February 6th, 2013 at 4:31 pm
#25 1980’s Al’s face or 2000’s Al’s face… I’d go with this option to scare them straight
http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_ylt=A2KJkCJo9RJRcDEAR6KJzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTBlMTQ4cGxyBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1n?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3Dal%2Bdavis%26fr%3Dyfp-t-701%26fr2%3Dpiv-web%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D10&w=419&h=610&imgurl=windycitizensports.files.wordpress.com%2F2011%2F08%2Fal-davis-is-dead.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwindycitizensports.wordpress.com%2Ftag%2Fal-davis%2F&size=50+KB&name=%3Cb%3Eal%3C%2Fb%3E-%3Cb%3Edavis%3C%2Fb%3E-is-dead.jpg&p=al+davis&oid=9f5e2fbf541346a07bde0f7c358dc82d&fr2=piv-web&fr=yfp-t-701&tt=%253Cb%253Eal%253C%252Fb%253E-%253Cb%253Edavis%253C%252Fb%253E-is-dead.jpg&b=0&ni=66&no=10&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=11l73udh7&sigb=132cgb7t5&sigi=1238o4suj&.crumb=8Ltxw70Qepz
February 6th, 2013 at 4:32 pm
YOU people SUCK!!!!
February 6th, 2013 at 4:33 pm
26.Raider O Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 4:26 pm
JC is like me. He is Palestinian.
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I am pretty sure Jason Campbell is white…after carful deliberation at the last Green Party meeting, hug filabuster…worked so hard could barely see leaving the meeting.
February 6th, 2013 at 4:33 pm
missdick–according to u, an innocent “white” child is ur enemy and u would like to chop off their head with ur machete.
this is why ur rhetoric is evil.
ur no better than any race-hater who has ever lived.
February 6th, 2013 at 4:33 pm
Let’s get back to Matt Schaub being an elite top ten QB, still waiting to hear why.
Can’t wait for Carson to get cut
Pryor the starter for 2013
February 6th, 2013 at 4:34 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 4:33 pm
26.Raider O Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 4:26 pm
JC is like me. He is Palestinian.
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I am pretty sure Jason Campbell is white…after carful deliberation at the last Green Party meeting, hug filabuster…worked so hard could barely see leaving the meeting.
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pretty sure he meant Jesus Christ.
February 6th, 2013 at 4:35 pm
I am pretty sure if there was a Jesus he would have looked more like Bin Ladin tan the blond haired blue eyed Jesus I see in the catholic churches here in California.
Just an Atheist guessing…
February 6th, 2013 at 4:35 pm
Will the new OC have a plan for Taiwan Jones, or is he just a STs player?
February 6th, 2013 at 4:36 pm
36.dr_robert Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 4:34 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 4:33 pm
26.Raider O Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 4:26 pm
JC is like me. He is Palestinian.
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I am pretty sure Jason Campbell is white…after carful deliberation at the last Green Party meeting, hug filabuster…worked so hard could barely see leaving the meeting.
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pretty sure he meant Jesus Christ.
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Who is that? Does he play for the Bears also?
February 6th, 2013 at 4:36 pm
Dr_robert Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 4:31 pm
Raider O Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 4:24 pm
LOL at you people.
Btw, why do you have paintings of Jesus looking black or white? He was middle easterner. He was hairy and had a big nose.
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this is true. the middle-east is the hub of the world. people started as brown. they became lighter as they moved away from the equator and darker as they moved closer. duh.
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According to DNA studies, Humans originated from Africa.
“Progress in DNA sequencing, specifically mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) and then Y-chromosome DNA advanced the understanding of human origins.[27][28][29] Sequencing mtDNA and Y-DNA sampled from a wide range of indigenous populations revealed ancestral information relating to both male and female genetic heritage.[30] Aligned in genetic tree differences were interpreted as supportive of a recent single origin.[31] Analyses have shown a greater diversity of DNA patterns throughout Africa, consistent with the idea that Africa is the ancestral home of mitochondrial Eve and Y-chromosomal Adam.[32] Out of Africa has gained support from research using female mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) and the male Y chromosome. After analysing genealogy trees constructed using 133 types of mtDNA, researchers concluded that all were descended from a female African progenitor, dubbed Mitochondrial Eve. Out of Africa is also supported by the fact that mitochondrial genetic diversity is highest among African populations.[33] A broad study of African genetic diversity, headed by Sarah Tishkoff, found the San people had the greatest genetic diversity among the 113 distinct populations sampled, making them one of 14 “ancestral population clusters”. The research also located the origin of modern human migration in south-western Africa, near the coastal border of Namibia and Angola.[34] The fossil evidence was insufficient for Richard Leakey to resolve this debate.[35] Studies of haplogroups in Y-chromosomal DNA and mitochondrial DNA have largely supported a recent African origin.[36] Evidence from autosomal DNA also predominantly supports a Recent African origin. However evidence for archaic admixture in modern humans had been suggested by some studies.[37] Recent sequencing of Neanderthal[38] and Denisovan[39] genomes shows that some admixture occurred. Modern humans outside Africa have 2-4% Neanderthal alleles in their genome, and some Melanesians have an additional 4-6% of Denisovan alleles. These new results do not contradict the Out of Africa model, except in its strictest interpretation. After recovery from a genetic bottleneck that might be due to the Toba supervolcano catastrophe, a fairly small group left Africa and briefly interbred with Neanderthals, probably in the middle-east or even North Africa before their departure. Their still predominantly-African descendants spread to populate the world. A fraction in turn interbred with Denisovans, probably in south-east Asia, before populating Melanesia.[40] HLA haplotypes of Neanderthal and Denisova origin have been identified in modern Eurasian and Oceanian populations.[14]“- Wiki
February 6th, 2013 at 4:37 pm
Taiwan still proving he can stay healthy. WTF was that anyways??
February 6th, 2013 at 4:37 pm
Elraidmanhattan Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 4:33 pm
Let’s get back to Matt Schaub being an elite top ten QB, still waiting to hear why.
Can’t wait for Carson to get cut
Pryor the starter for 2013
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matt schaub 2012 90.7 rating (#9 in nfl)
4008 yards/22 tds/64.3%
12-4 record (for those of u dummies who think it’s a qb stat)
duh.
no way pryor starts. suck on it.
February 6th, 2013 at 4:37 pm
dr_robert Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 4:21 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 4:02 pm
dr slob says
“you want things for free”
no i want want payment for the work we have already done.
If a man steals he is charged with restitution, regardless of how long has passed between the actual transgression and when the judgment is levied.
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1) u ain’t done sh1t. the slaves did. not u.
and the slave owners are dead. they can’t pay. u want all of america to pay a debt to u that isn’t owed to u.
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the slaves are my family members and they were never paid or restored for their work.
the slave owners may be dead but the corporations and institutions that made huge profits from slavery are still in existence
jp morgan /chase
royal bank of scotland
bank of england
aetna
new york life
bank of amerikkka
wachovia
yale university
llyods of london
lehman brothers
debeers diamonds
these are just a few
shouldnt they pay back what they stole and pay up for their transgressions.
besides reparations is not a new concept
so called jewish people and Japanese have received them, why shouldnt Afrikans
February 6th, 2013 at 4:37 pm
Mistic ur a dush fck off anyways this tarping stuff is just flat out sad can’t believe it has come to this tough times for the Nation no doubt
February 6th, 2013 at 4:37 pm
J Hill Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 4:35 pm
Will the new OC have a plan for Taiwan Jones, or is he just a STs player?
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Hope so. I think he can be an explosive player.
February 6th, 2013 at 4:37 pm
ROFL Dutch.
February 6th, 2013 at 4:38 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 4:35 pm
I am pretty sure if there was a Jesus he would have looked more like Bin Ladin tan the blond haired blue eyed Jesus I see in the catholic churches here in California.
Just an Atheist guessing…
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bullsh!t. i’m Catholic and i’ve never seen a blonde haired blue eyed Jesus. liars lie.
February 6th, 2013 at 4:39 pm
What a joke. This is being done exactly for the *opposite* reason of what Trask is spewing. They know the team will be horrible again in 2013 and this is really just a way for them to save money and take another step towards moving in 2014. Having the lowest seating capacity in the NFL, an ugly tarp on the stadium just adds fuel to the fire why Oakland cannot sustain this team.
It’s just another F-you to the fans. Save money and provide more humiliation to local bay area Raider fans. Fits right in line with everything Mark has done since Al died – implosion of the team – Hue firing, DA joke hire, dump all Al players, make the team generic.
Next thing they’ll be changing the team logo and colors. You wait, its happening.
Raiders are gone when the lease is up after this season. If they can’t make LA happen, they will suck the Niners kneecaps and lease their stadium and change their names to the Golden State Sailors before its all over.
February 6th, 2013 at 4:41 pm
A new post! Now if we can somehow get rid of the constant blog battles between some if the loons in here, we might be able to keep these posts to a respectable number. I know…I know…one can dream, anyway.
February 6th, 2013 at 4:41 pm
Still LOL Dutch.
Green Party Rules.
Vote green in 2016.
February 6th, 2013 at 4:41 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 4:37 pm
the slaves are my family members and they were never paid or restored for their work.
so called jewish people and Japanese have received them, why shouldnt Afrikans
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slaves aren’t ur family members. who cares if ur a descendant? they didn’t know u.
go ahead and sue. see what happens.
“so called Jewish people”
yep. he hates Jews. what a surprise.
February 6th, 2013 at 4:42 pm
Wow Dr Robert you are such an angry man what happened?
Male Menopause?
February 6th, 2013 at 4:42 pm
dr slob,
im the one that told you the concept of race was invented by those that classify themselves as white
you fought me on it remember
probably getting confused on what handle you were using that day
lol
February 6th, 2013 at 4:42 pm
Lmao @ Golden State Sailors!
February 6th, 2013 at 4:44 pm
Then whats this Dr angry little man?
http://www.biography.com/people/jesus-christ-9354382
February 6th, 2013 at 4:45 pm
Raider O Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 4:24 pm
LOL at you people.
Btw, why do you have paintings of Jesus looking black or white? He was middle easterner. He was hairy and had a big nose.
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Hey O,
You’re not kidding. After that broad washed his feet, I had to wax his back. smh
February 6th, 2013 at 4:45 pm
Dr_robert Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 4:38 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 4:35 pm
I am pretty sure if there was a Jesus he would have looked more like Bin Ladin tan the blond haired blue eyed Jesus I see in the catholic churches here in California.
Just an Atheist guessing…
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bullsh!t. i’m Catholic and i’ve never seen a blonde haired blue eyed Jesus. liars lie.
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What?!
I like the stained glass in churches “one of my favorite things about churches”, but I did notice a lot of people from that area/ era painted white/ blonde hair/ blue eyes.
It doesn’t bother me, and the art work is amazing.
February 6th, 2013 at 4:45 pm
Catholics and Jehovah’s Witnesses protect pedophiles its a known fact.
February 6th, 2013 at 4:47 pm
What?!
I like the stained glass in churches “one of my favorite things about churches”, but I did notice a lot of people from that area/ era painted white/ blonde hair/ blue eyes.
It doesn’t bother me, and the art work is amazing.
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You just don’t wanna go downstairs in one of those catholic churches.
February 6th, 2013 at 4:47 pm
So we finally get a new post and this is how you people repay Jerry? SMH!
February 6th, 2013 at 4:49 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 4:45 pm
Catholics and Jehovah’s Witnesses protect pedophiles its a known fact.
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Did you guys catch that documentary on HBO its called Mea Culpa silence in the house of God based on pedephile catholic priests… Sick madaphackas… Makes you see catholism in whole a different way…
February 6th, 2013 at 4:49 pm
What a nice surprise it would be to have our OC take advantage of Ford, Jones, and the other speedsters in a vertical attack.
February 6th, 2013 at 4:49 pm
Chris canty or Ahmad Bradshaw anyone? With bowe, Jennings, Woodson, and so many more possible high profile FA there are tons flying under the radar. This is a great year to rebuild with cheap talent. Also a great draft class as far as depth goes. New raiders start in 2013 baby
February 6th, 2013 at 4:51 pm
Is Burris really the plan at MLB?
February 6th, 2013 at 4:51 pm
irjonny Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 4:49 pm
Chris canty or Ahmad Bradshaw anyone? With bowe, Jennings, Woodson, and so many more possible high profile FA there are tons flying under the radar. This is a great year to rebuild with cheap talent. Also a great draft class as far as depth goes. New raiders start in 2013 baby
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The question is will we have enough cap to get one of these quality football players…
February 6th, 2013 at 4:52 pm
LOL Len. I noticed people were enjoying the race debate/ topic, so I had to add my thoughts on the topic.
Btw, how much do you charge?
February 6th, 2013 at 4:52 pm
Did you guys catch that documentary on HBO its called Mea Culpa silence in the house of God based on pedephile catholic priests… Sick madaphackas… Makes you see catholism in whole a different way…”
Yeah and the Jehovah’s Witnesses will not tell the police when one of their members touches kids they handle it in house and now that these women are older they are suing because they were kept quiet all these years.
February 6th, 2013 at 4:52 pm
We need a starting RT and LG.
Is Briesel coming back?
February 6th, 2013 at 4:52 pm
we know mankind started with the progentor original man Afrikans
the question i would like answered is where do those who classify themselves as white come from?
what is there origin? it is an enigma
from what i can tell everyone had color then suddenly boom out of the caves came the first man with no color. when he joined the party entire civilizations had already risen and fallen several times over.
it appears he was in the cave for 2000 years.
This is a fundamental mystery that deserves more study.
there are no proven facts of his origin only theory
maybe this lack of knowledge on ones own beginnings and its ambiguity is part of the root of racism
interesting indeed
February 6th, 2013 at 4:53 pm
So I guess the first round of calls to season ticket holders for renewing didn’t go over so well, eh? I know I for one didn’t return the call.
February 6th, 2013 at 4:53 pm
62.J Hill Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 4:49 pm
What a nice surprise it would be to have our OC take advantage of Ford, Jones, and the other speedsters in a vertical attack.
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Yeah, I hope he gets another shot at RB. My inner Al Davis wonders if he can play corner though, dude is fast and sure can tackle…
February 6th, 2013 at 4:53 pm
Raider O Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 4:52 pm
LOL Len. I noticed people were enjoying the race debate/ topic, so I had to add my thoughts on the topic.
Btw, how much do you charge?
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LOL,
I’m sorry my friend, that was many lifetimes ago.
My Karmic debt has been paid. LOL
February 6th, 2013 at 4:55 pm
J Hill Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 4:52 pm
We need a starting RT and LG.
Is Briesel coming back?
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We do, and I don’t know.
I’d get rid of Brisiel if he’s just a ZBS guy.
I think Nix might be the sleeper for one of the Guard positions.
February 6th, 2013 at 4:55 pm
You People are funny.
Being black, white, Arab, Asian, brown, etc… Is not an accomplishment to be proud of. You didn’t do anything, you were born that way, so lets not get too carried away with that BS. Be proud of your heritage, but don’t go overboard.
February 6th, 2013 at 4:55 pm
To believe that man originated in Africa and his pigmentation changed as he migrated north is basically agreeing with the teachings of evolution.
February 6th, 2013 at 4:56 pm
Dutch
I hear ya about that “inner Al Davis thing” That would be sweet if they tried that and it worked out.
TJ has way too much talent for ST only.
February 6th, 2013 at 4:57 pm
70.The Big Banana Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 4:53 pm
So I guess the first round of calls to season ticket holders for renewing didn’t go over so well, eh? I know I for one didn’t return the call.
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They just wanted a down payment of $100 bucks…never have the time for a full season, only buying a half. Honestly, I do enjoy football more at my house on my couch…
February 6th, 2013 at 4:58 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 4:55 pm
To believe that man originated in Africa and his pigmentation changed as he migrated north is basically agreeing with the teachings of evolution.
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Aspects of creation and evolution are not mutually exclusive. imo
February 6th, 2013 at 4:59 pm
I don’t understand why science and Christianity don’t mix. I don’t see that with Islam or Judaism.
February 6th, 2013 at 5:00 pm
am i in the right place?
February 6th, 2013 at 5:00 pm
the catholic priest pedophile rape thing is nothing new, they have been doing that since the very beginning of the church.
Rome was a haven for pedophilia and homosexuality even bestiality see the romulus and reemus allegory and the stories of the so called roman mythology
Not sure why any one would expect anything different today.
That isnt to paint all catholics with one brush yet the priesthood has always been involved with these activities
February 6th, 2013 at 5:01 pm
Before the Raiders left for la, the seating was 54000 and change. Those were the days, couldnt get a ticket unless You knew someone, connections…….Im not concerned with this at ALL..Just hope Mark and Amy have a plan that doesnt mean LA….
February 6th, 2013 at 5:02 pm
Raider O Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 4:55 pm
You People are funny.
Being black, white, Arab, Asian, brown, etc… Is not an accomplishment to be proud of. You didn’t do anything, you were born that way, so lets not get too carried away with that BS. Be proud of your heritage, but don’t go overboard.
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i will let it go if i could ever post on the board without being attacked by racist
they started it and I strike back
February 6th, 2013 at 5:02 pm
Is a miracle! Over a week later and a new post!
February 6th, 2013 at 5:03 pm
Personally I preferred the Mt Davis seats between the 35yd lines *way better* than the end zone seats on the 2nd tier – season ticket holders with 50 yd line seats on the mountain are getting hosed having to move to crappier seats in the 2nd tier end zone and can only see one side of the field. Plus the view of the bay from Mt Davis was actually pretty sweet and the beer concession/bathrooms better (newer and usually not crowded). Granted the food up there sucked but who cares I’m stuffed from the tailgate anyway, I just want a fast beer and be able to piss when I want (need) it.
I actually had some super fun times up there over the years it can get loud and roudy and you see the whole field. It was also nice to always get a cheap ticket last minute and go to *any* game and for like $20. The capacity is now 9000 seats less and the cheap seats are all 2nd tier endzone now. Say hello to worse views and higher after market prices.
February 6th, 2013 at 5:04 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 4:42 pm
dr slob,
im the one that told you the concept of race was invented by those that classify themselves as white
you fought me on it remember
probably getting confused on what handle you were using that day
lol
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believe me kid, i’ve never “”learned’ anything from u. i’m the one who TOLD YOU that race is a fallacy.
it’s hilarious that u cling so tightly to an idea invented by white people to separate.
yes, i know, it’s the black muslim’s way to “flip the script” with word games.
if the white man made it up, then how come all of ur philosophies have to do with it?
race and color have nothing to do with anything. get over it. ur hate owns u.
February 6th, 2013 at 5:05 pm
Looking at the roster and the current contracts I would say we are in WAY better shape than last year. That huge deal Branch got was stupid, and that will hurt us the most this offseason.
Palmer restructures again, Huff also needs to take a pay cut. DHB, Kelly, and McClain need to go. Don’t know how much that costs but it’s dead money. Start working the free agents.
Draft Star at #3.
February 6th, 2013 at 5:06 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 5:02 pm
Raider O Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 4:55 pm
You People are funny.
Being black, white, Arab, Asian, brown, etc… Is not an accomplishment to be proud of. You didn’t do anything, you were born that way, so lets not get too carried away with that BS. Be proud of your heritage, but don’t go overboard.
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i will let it go if i could ever post on the board without being attacked by racist
they started it and I strike back
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get off your soapbox…you are annoying to humans (whatever colour).
February 6th, 2013 at 5:07 pm
J,
I’m not sure about OG, but we do need a RT. I like Volmer, Smith, or Loadholt.
February 6th, 2013 at 5:07 pm
I’m looking foward to hearing some good news regarding the Raiders.
Just being mentioned in the same breath as the Jaguars makes me ill.
February 6th, 2013 at 5:08 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 4:44 pm
Then whats this Dr angry little man?
http://www.biography.com/people/jesus-christ-9354382
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looks like a renaissance era painting. lighter hair and complexion. who cares? everyone knows he was a Jew from the middle east. u just wanna paint Christians as hypocrites. i know the song and dance. a painting means nothing. just a choice by the painter. that’s human frailty. it has nothing to do with the teachings of God. besides, God is all colors. He can be whatever color u like. makes nop difference.
February 6th, 2013 at 5:09 pm
Guys can we just talk about football please!!!! This racist bullsh@t is getting old!!!
February 6th, 2013 at 5:09 pm
Raider O Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 4:45 pm
Dr_robert Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 4:38 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 4:35 pm
I am pretty sure if there was a Jesus he would have looked more like Bin Ladin tan the blond haired blue eyed Jesus I see in the catholic churches here in California.
Just an Atheist guessing…
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bullsh!t. i’m Catholic and i’ve never seen a blonde haired blue eyed Jesus. liars lie.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
What?!
I like the stained glass in churches “one of my favorite things about churches”, but I did notice a lot of people from that area/ era painted white/ blonde hair/ blue eyes.
It doesn’t bother me, and the art work is amazing.
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well, i can’t account for every piece of artwork ever made or seen. i just know most crucifixes have a brown Jesus. who cares anyway?
February 6th, 2013 at 5:10 pm
I say we just cut/release anybody whose contract we don’t like and go from there. It’s not like any of them are going to take us to the playoffs.
February 6th, 2013 at 5:10 pm
Raider O Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 5:07 pm
J,
I’m not sure about OG, but we do need a RT. I like Volmer, Smith, or Loadholt.
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I’d take titties Smith of the group. Youngest of the bunch and played very well this past season from what I’ve gathered.
Bungles are notoriously cheap, maybe He can be had.
February 6th, 2013 at 5:11 pm
FA RT, O?
I’d rather spend our FA $ elsewhere.
February 6th, 2013 at 5:11 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 4:45 pm
Catholics and Jehovah’s Witnesses protect pedophiles its a known fact.
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organized religion is run by man. therefore, it’s susceptible to evil. the Church has been responsible for many bad things. repulsive. but that isn’t God or His teachings.
wearing a collar and calling urself a priest while committing atrocities is evil.
February 6th, 2013 at 5:12 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 4:47 pm
What?!
I like the stained glass in churches “one of my favorite things about churches”, but I did notice a lot of people from that area/ era painted white/ blonde hair/ blue eyes.
It doesn’t bother me, and the art work is amazing.
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You just don’t wanna go downstairs in one of those catholic churches.
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why? how would u know? speaking about something u have no idea about?
February 6th, 2013 at 5:13 pm
Raider OOOO,how are Ya? LMFAO,these guys are yappin about race bs, and You chime in with we do need a rt, perfect timing…..
February 6th, 2013 at 5:13 pm
J Hill Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 5:11 pm
FA RT, O?
I’d rather spend our FA $ elsewhere.
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Ha Ha…you FA RTed
February 6th, 2013 at 5:14 pm
J Hill Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 5:11 pm
FA RT, O?
I’d rather spend our FA $ elsewhere.
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If we cut Brisiel, It offsets the RT FA, and Nix or Bergs can fill one or both of the Guard positions.
February 6th, 2013 at 5:16 pm
dr_robert Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 5:04 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 4:42 pm
dr slob,
im the one that told you the concept of race was invented by those that classify themselves as white
you fought me on it remember
probably getting confused on what handle you were using that day
lol
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believe me kid, i’ve never “”learned’ anything from u. i’m the one who TOLD YOU that race is a fallacy.
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you are a liar
you went back and fourth with me when i told you about this being nothing more than a white supremacist machination made for the subjugation of Afrikans
joahn blumenbach
remember
February 6th, 2013 at 5:16 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 4:52 pm
we know mankind started with the progentor original man Afrikans
the question i would like answered is where do those who classify themselves as white come from?
what is there origin? it is an enigma
from what i can tell everyone had color then suddenly boom out of the caves came the first man with no color. when he joined the party entire civilizations had already risen and fallen several times over.
it appears he was in the cave for 2000 years.
This is a fundamental mystery that deserves more study.
there are no proven facts of his origin only theory
maybe this lack of knowledge on ones own beginnings and its ambiguity is part of the root of racism
interesting indeed
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this is as dumb as they come. there are no facts when it comes to the history of man. only theory.
where did asians come from?
in a cave? ur an idiot. this is just ur black muslim rhetoric.
who gives sh1t anyway? everyone got all mixed up. suck on it.
February 6th, 2013 at 5:17 pm
Why would we want Smith over Barnes?
February 6th, 2013 at 5:18 pm
Raider O Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 4:55 pm
You People are funny.
Being black, white, Arab, Asian, brown, etc… Is not an accomplishment to be proud of. You didn’t do anything, you were born that way, so lets not get too carried away with that BS. Be proud of your heritage, but don’t go overboard.
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bingo. i would say “being proud of your heritage” is problematic as well. what did u have to do with it? what does it have to do with u?
these are the reasons behind racism, jingoism, and nationalism.
be a good person. period.
February 6th, 2013 at 5:19 pm
Yeah, Bergstrom is playing somewhere.
RT?
February 6th, 2013 at 5:19 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 4:55 pm
To believe that man originated in Africa and his pigmentation changed as he migrated north is basically agreeing with the teachings of evolution.
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wrong. evolution just tries to explain how God did it. and it’s a theory anyway.
February 6th, 2013 at 5:19 pm
Random Drug Tester Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 5:06 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 5:02 pm
Raider O Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 4:55 pm
You People are funny.
Being black, white, Arab, Asian, brown, etc… Is not an accomplishment to be proud of. You didn’t do anything, you were born that way, so lets not get too carried away with that BS. Be proud of your heritage, but don’t go overboard.
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i will let it go if i could ever post on the board without being attacked by racist
they started it and I strike back
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get off your soapbox…you are annoying to humans (whatever colour).
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another cross poster lol
sorry but defending myself isnt a ’soap box”
it is a natural and necessary action for survival
how ever the attacks that happen in here are proof that the so called new or young people that classify themselves as white are plagued with the same xenophobic racist ideas that they have had since the cave days
February 6th, 2013 at 5:20 pm
dr slob I am not a muslim
you are an idiot though
February 6th, 2013 at 5:21 pm
I heard you can go over the cap if 1) the “dead” money…plus 2) the minimum salary amount exceeds the limit.
If so, get rid of everybody this year that is not in the 3 year plan to compete for the Super Bowl and skip the slow death of years of mediocrity.
February 6th, 2013 at 5:21 pm
J,
What do you want to spend the money on?
I’m not sold on the FA WRs, CBs, and LBs.
I doubt guys like DE M Johnson will hit the market.
Draft defense, depth, and TE.
Use the money to sign a RT and DL.
February 6th, 2013 at 5:22 pm
Raider O Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 4:59 pm
I don’t understand why science and Christianity don’t mix. I don’t see that with Islam or Judaism.
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what? are u kidding? muslims don’t have a problem with science? cmon.
and plenty od Christians are scientists. darwin was a Christian.
science is man’s way of trying to understand how things are. we have a tiny little bit of true knowledge.
atheists try to pretend science explains away God.
it doesn’t. it just clues us in to how He did it.
our minds can’t even comprehend reality anyway.
February 6th, 2013 at 5:22 pm
Yawn. Draft yet?
February 6th, 2013 at 5:22 pm
RaiderLen Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 4:58 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 4:55 pm
To believe that man originated in Africa and his pigmentation changed as he migrated north is basically agreeing with the teachings of evolution.
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Aspects of creation and evolution are not mutually exclusive. imo
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the big bang theory completely apes Genesis.
February 6th, 2013 at 5:22 pm
J Hill Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 5:17 pm
Why would we want Smith over Barnes?
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From what I gather He’s better by a lot.
Beast run blocker and very good in Pass Protection.
IF Brisiel were cut, I think that we could do no worse at RG with Nix or Bergs, and we should be better and younger at RT.
February 6th, 2013 at 5:24 pm
We have not seen the complete pool of FAs.
Pretty sure there will be some cuts that add to the pool.
We need LBs, CB, and WR help. Spend the FA $ there.
February 6th, 2013 at 5:24 pm
Hendu,
I had some fun with the race debate earlier, but I rather talk football/ Raiders.
Who do you want in the 1st?
RAIDERS!!
February 6th, 2013 at 5:25 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 5:00 pm
the catholic priest pedophile rape thing is nothing new, they have been doing that since the very beginning of the church.
Rome was a haven for pedophilia and homosexuality even bestiality see the romulus and reemus allegory and the stories of the so called roman mythology
Not sure why any one would expect anything different today.
That isnt to paint all catholics with one brush yet the priesthood has always been involved with these activities
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the romans ur referring to were not Catholics. they were heathens.
it’s very simple. many gay men grow up Catholic and are afraid of their sexuality, thinking it a sin. so they go into the priesthood, knowing the can never live a married life, and hope to stay celibate. but their sexual desires take them over and they do things that are reprehensible.
the Catholic Church should allow marriage and should not condemn homosexuality.
February 6th, 2013 at 5:26 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 5:02 pm
Raider O Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 4:55 pm
You People are funny.
Being black, white, Arab, Asian, brown, etc… Is not an accomplishment to be proud of. You didn’t do anything, you were born that way, so lets not get too carried away with that BS. Be proud of your heritage, but don’t go overboard.
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i will let it go if i could ever post on the board without being attacked by racist
they started it and I strike back
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really dumbbell? everyone imagined u were racist and started in on u?
bullsh!t. everyone knows ur a bigot.
February 6th, 2013 at 5:26 pm
J Hill Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 5:24 pm
We have not seen the complete pool of FAs.
Pretty sure there will be some cuts that add to the pool.
We need LBs, CB, and WR help. Spend the FA $ there.
$$$$$$$$$$
Unless good players get cut later, I pass on guys like S Smith, Wallace/ Bowe/ Welker/ Jennings, and I rather resign Wheeler for LB.
February 6th, 2013 at 5:27 pm
Smith’s salary vs Barnes salary?
If Cincy can’t afford Smith, can we?
February 6th, 2013 at 5:28 pm
Jake Long, OT, Dolphins. Age: 28.
Jake Long has regressed just a bit over the past couple of years because of nagging injuries, but he’s still considered one of the better left tackles in football.
Sebastian Vollmer, OT, Patriots. Age: 29.
Sebastian Vollmer is arguably the top right tackle in football – but not when he has to go up against Cameron Wake.
Andre Smith, OT, Bengals. Age: 26.
Andre Smith has developed into one of the league’s premier right tackles. He was a dominant run-blocker and also excelled in pass protection. There’s still some concern that he could get lazy with a big contract, but he deserves the money based on how he’s played.
Ryan Clady, OT, Broncos. Age: 26.
Ryan Clady is not a very good run-blocker, but he surrendered just one sack in 2012. Of course, part of that is Peyton Manning releasing the ball quickly, but Clady was still very sound in protection.
Will Beatty, OT, Giants. Age: 28.
Will Beatty was heavily penalized in 2012, but otherwise served as an outstanding left tackle for Eli Manning.
Phil Loadholt, OT, Vikings. Age: 27.
Phil Loadholt was one of the most penalized linemen in the NFL this past season (11 penalties), but he made up for it with his powerful run-blocking and sound pass protection.
Sam Baker, OT, Falcons. Age: 28.
Sam Baker was deemed a bust prior to this season because of years of underachieving, but he actually played well in 2012. The difference was that he was finally over his back problems. Remember though that those things tend to linger and resurface.
Branden Albert, OT, Chiefs. Age: 28.
Branden Albert’s a solid left tackle when he’s in the lineup – he surrendered just one sack in 11 starts this year – but his issue is that he suffers from chronic back spasms. He can’t be counted on to play 16 games.
February 6th, 2013 at 5:28 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 5:16 pm
dr_robert Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 5:04 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 4:42 pm
dr slob,
im the one that told you the concept of race was invented by those that classify themselves as white
you fought me on it remember
probably getting confused on what handle you were using that day
lol
********
believe me kid, i’ve never “”learned’ anything from u. i’m the one who TOLD YOU that race is a fallacy.
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you are a liar
you went back and fourth with me when i told you about this being nothing more than a white supremacist machination made for the subjugation of Afrikans
joahn blumenbach
remember
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never happened idiot. i’ve always claimed the notion of race is a fallacy. i’m well aware of where it started. wasn’t me pal.
February 6th, 2013 at 5:29 pm
Being “proud of your herritage”
is not the problem. Being teid to a culture that governs societal norms and customs for your people is important. when a person has no connection to their own history that is where the problem come from.
How else do you perceive your spiritual connection to the universe and the vast creation?
Why is that that when ever a black man is “proud” it is such a problem for those that classify themselves as white?
yet those that classify themselves as white want to celebrate ameriakkkan heritage
4th of july, civil war, making heroes out of racist rapist and pedophiliac murderers like franklin jefferson washington columbus and so on?
what is patriotism? why is that celebrated if heritage doesnt matter?
it seems that it only fails to matter when it fails to encompass or include the caucasian or euro-centric world view.
February 6th, 2013 at 5:29 pm
Victor Cruz (RFA), WR, Giants. Age: 26.
Victor Cruz proved that his amazing 2011 season was no fluke, catching 86 balls for 1,092 yards and 10 touchdowns this past year. He carried the receiving corps when Hakeem Nicks was out.
Dwayne Bowe, WR, Chiefs. Age: 28.
Dwayne Bowe is one of the most overrated players in the NFL. He consistently posts solid fantasy numbers, so people think he’s better than he really is. The box score doesn’t show that Bowe constantly drops passes and is responsible for interceptions. He’s a very good No. 2 wideout, but he’s too unreliable to be a top option.
Mike Wallace, WR, Steelers. Age: 27.
Mike Wallace is overrated. He has blazing speed, but he’s a horribly inefficient receiver. He dropped tons of passes and ranked near the bottom of the NFL in terms of catch percentage among starting wideouts.
Greg Jennings, WR, Packers. Age: 29.
Greg Jennings is a talented receiver, but he may be overvalued because he’s always worked with either Brett Favre or Aaron Rodgers. Plus, he tends to get banged up quite frequently.
Wes Welker, WR, Patriots. Age: 32.
Wes Welker produces like crazy fantasy numbers, but he’s also one of the league’s most overrated players. There’s a reason why the Patriots wouldn’t show him the money. He drops lots of passes and is arguably a product of the system. He’s also about to enter his mid-30s. Still, he’s a highly effective slot receiver.
February 6th, 2013 at 5:29 pm
Cap will be spent on keeping Bryant, Wheeler, Carter. I think they still dont have enough to make a big splash. Expect they’ll look for a couple more Wheeler\Carters out there. Cheap, short term contracts.
February 6th, 2013 at 5:29 pm
hendu Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 5:01 pm
Before the Raiders left for la, the seating was 54000 and change. Those were the days, couldnt get a ticket unless You knew someone, connections…….Im not concerned with this at ALL..Just hope Mark and Amy have a plan that doesnt mean LA….
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63000 is not the real problem. They would *easily* sell out the existing stadium with a winning team – even a *promising* 8-8 team. They did that in 2011 with Hue and 8-8. They are reducing the capacity because they know they will be terrible again – probably on purpose.
With a losing, sorry-azz team with a retarded owner, ‘big dummy’ GM and a wanna-be golf pro for a head coach they might not sellout even at 54000 and that could be the ‘real goal’ of the franchise as Mark is begging to move to LA and can’t move fast enough.
But LA is *not* a guarantee. LA might not even want the Raiders *at all*. Rumors are Anschutz (who would finance the stadium) would have to get majority ownership and might also require to completely rebrand the team to even consider it. They don’t want another gangbanger fiasco like last time that kept paying fans from going to the games.
It happened to the Browns moving to Baltimore and the Oilers moving to Tennessee so there is recent precedent for this in the league.
Tarping the stadium is just another kick in the balls to the local fans. At this point, anything is possible with this sorry azz franchise.
I miss the old Raiders…
Just sell the dam team to someone who can and wants to restore the Raiders to greatness – maybe like a Tiger Woods or Larry Ellison or even like a frikin Russian billionaire – someone who knows how to build and sustain a winner at all costs and knows how bad azzz the Raiders used to be and how they can be again.
February 6th, 2013 at 5:30 pm
We need LBs, CB, and WR help. Spend the FA $ there.
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Yep, we need ALL of that too. Shiiit.
So many holes, so little money and picks.
Hope Reggie is a smart shopper.
February 6th, 2013 at 5:30 pm
Sam Shields (RFA), Packers. Age: 25.
Sam Shields missed some time with a high ankle sprain but otherwise enjoyed a stellar 2012 campaign in which he became a legitimate shutdown cornerback. If he keeps this up, he’ll be rich come Spring 2014 – if not sooner.
Aqib Talib, CB, Patriots. Age: 27.
Aqib Talib has No. 1 cornerback potential, but happens to be a major head case. Any team that’s even thinking about bringing him in needs a strong locker room.
Keenan Lewis, CB, Steelers. Age: 27.
Keenan Lewis played very well in his first season as a starter in 2012, surrendering a solid 52.7 completion percentage and just three touchdowns.
Sean Smith, CB, Dolphins. Age: 26.
Sean Smith started off the year on a strong note, but wasn’t very good in the final couple of months. Still, he’s a solid starting corner who deserves a nice contract.
Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, CB, Eagles. Age: 27.
DRC stands for Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie. It can also be short for “doesn’t really care.” Rodgers-Cromartie is a very talented cornerback, but he’s not all there mentally. He’s still young, so maybe he’ll get it together, but teams pursuing him this offseason should be careful.
Chris Houston, CB, Lions. Age: 28.
Chris Houston was torched on national television against the Falcons, but he was very solid otherwise in 2012. He surrendered just one touchdown excluding the Atlanta game.
Leodis McKelvin, CB/KR, Bills. Age: 28.
Leodis McKelvin held his own at cornerback this season in four starts, but he was most useful on special teams where he was one of the top return specialists in the NFL.
Derek Cox, CB, Jaguars. Age: 26.
Derek Cox would be ranked much higher if he were reliable. He’s a talented cornerback, but he’s missed 14 games in the past two seasons. The Jaguars have to be so frustrated with his inability to stay healthy.
Cary Williams, CB, Ravens. Age: 28.
Cary Williams had some rough outings in 2012, but mostly played solidly at corner for the Ravens, holding down the fort after Lardarius Webb was lost for the year.
Brent Grimes, CB, Falcons. Age: 30.
Brent Grimes would be ranked much higher if he weren’t coming off a torn Achilles’ tendon. He’ll be 30 in July, so it’ll be tough for him to bounce back.
February 6th, 2013 at 5:30 pm
Apparently we have 17 UFA’s…how many of them do we want back, and at what price.
Obviously we let Seymour, Lechler, Spencer, Leinhart, Giordano walk.
What about the other 12…who’s worth spending money on?
February 6th, 2013 at 5:31 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 5:20 pm
dr slob I am not a muslim
you are an idiot though
********
didn’t say u were.
but all of ur stupid rhetoric comes from the black muslim/black panther days of 1965.
we’ve all moved on. ur an antique. an ugly, bigot antique.
February 6th, 2013 at 5:31 pm
OL Take Long or Vollmer
WR Take Cruz
February 6th, 2013 at 5:32 pm
our minds can’t even comprehend reality anyway.
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I agree yours can’t, Dr Dumbass.
February 6th, 2013 at 5:32 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 5:29 pm
Being “proud of your herritage”
is not the problem. Being teid to a culture that governs societal norms and customs for your people is important. when a person has no connection to their own history that is where the problem come from.
How else do you perceive your spiritual connection to the universe and the vast creation?
Why is that that when ever a black man is “proud” it is such a problem for those that classify themselves as white?
**************
anything that divides and separates is evil. period.
February 6th, 2013 at 5:32 pm
Resign Wheeler and Bryant.
Cut DHB, TK, and McClain.
February 6th, 2013 at 5:33 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 5:32 pm
our minds can’t even comprehend reality anyway.
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I agree yours can’t, Dr Dumbass.
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do u even have a belief system kell?
February 6th, 2013 at 5:33 pm
Paul Kruger, DE/OLB, Ravens. Age: 27.
Paul Kruger notched nine sacks during the regular season and then three more against the Colts in the playoffs. He also was solid in coverage.
Philip Wheeler, OLB, Raiders. Age: 28.
Philip Wheeler was one of the most improved players in the NFL this past season. He thrived in every aspect, including blitzing, and he’s earned a huge pay day this spring. And to think, the Raiders obtained him for a mere 1-year, $700,000 contract during the previous offseason.
Daryl Smith, OLB, Jaguars. Age: 31.
Daryl Smith has never received much attention from the media, but he’s been one of the top 4-3 outside linebackers in the NFL over the years. Unfortunately, he played in just two games this season because of a groin injury, and he’ll be 31 in March, so his skills are in the process of eroding.
Connor Barwin, DE/OLB, Texans. Age: 26.
Connor Barwin is coming off a very disappointing 2012 campaign. After registering 11.5 sacks in 2011, he managed just three this past season. He’s talented, so there’s a good chance this was just a fluky year.
Shaun Phillips, DE/OLB, Chargers. Age: 32.
Shaun Phillips recorded close to double-digit sacks and was stout in coverage this season, though he was a big liability against the run. He’ll be 32 in May, unfortunately.
Thomas Howard, OLB, Bengals. Age: 30.
Thomas Howard missed all but one game in 2012 with a torn ACL. It was impressive that Cincinnati’s defense still played well despite missing such a solid linebacker.
Manny Lawson, OLB, Bengals. Age: 29.
The Bengals asked Manny Lawson to rush the passer and stop the run, and he did that very well. He’s not good in coverage, however.
Justin Durant, OLB, Lions. Age: 27.
Justin Durant has been very solid in run support for the Lions over the past couple of years. He should be limited to two downs though because he’s not that good in coverage.
Erin Henderson, OLB, Vikings. Age: 27.
A quality run-defender, Erin Henderson should be limited to two downs because he can be exposed in coverage.
Leroy Hill, OLB, Seahawks. Age: 30.
Leroy Hill had a solid 2012 campaign as a two-down linebacker until late in the season when he dealt with a lingering hamstring injury.
February 6th, 2013 at 5:33 pm
J Hill Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 5:27 pm
Smith’s salary vs Barnes salary?
If Cincy can’t afford Smith, can we?
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Barnes made 2 Mil last year. Brisiel is due 5 Mil in 2013.
I don’t know what Smith will get, but If he signs a deal similar to the one E Winston got from KC last year, it would be 4 Mil.
February 6th, 2013 at 5:34 pm
We need a playmaker at WR.
We need a starting CB.
We need a starting OLB.
I think we need 1 or 2 of these filled with a FA.
February 6th, 2013 at 5:34 pm
CB Take Shields and Talib
February 6th, 2013 at 5:35 pm
Some stories in the Koran make more sense than the bible.
Take Noah’s ark for instance I think in the Koran it was a raft not a boat which makes sense or is more logical than a wooden boat that would have been crushed by the waves
February 6th, 2013 at 5:35 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 5:29 pm
Being “proud of your herritage”
is not the problem. Being teid to a culture that governs societal norms and customs for your people is important. when a person has no connection to their own history that is where the problem come from.
How else do you perceive your spiritual connection to the universe and the vast creation?
Why is that that when ever a black man is “proud” it is such a problem for those that classify themselves as white?
yet those that classify themselves as white want to celebrate ameriakkkan heritage
4th of july, civil war, making heroes out of racist rapist and pedophiliac murderers like franklin jefferson washington columbus and so on?
what is patriotism? why is that celebrated if heritage doesnt matter?
it seems that it only fails to matter when it fails to encompass or include the caucasian or euro-centric world view.
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Maybe they were promised 76 virgins for their contributions…smh
February 6th, 2013 at 5:35 pm
“I agree yours can’t, Dr Dumbass.”
LMAO at KK good one!
February 6th, 2013 at 5:35 pm
Raider O Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 5:32 pm
Resign Wheeler and Bryant.
Cut DHB, TK, and McClain.
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Agree.
February 6th, 2013 at 5:36 pm
Shields and Cruz are RFAs!!!
February 6th, 2013 at 5:36 pm
Dr_robert Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 5:33 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 5:32 pm
our minds can’t even comprehend reality anyway.
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I agree yours can’t, Dr Dumbass.
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do u even have a belief system kell?
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I do, Dr Dumbass, but I don’t push my belief system on others.
February 6th, 2013 at 5:37 pm
“Maybe they were promised 76 virgins for their contributions…smh”
Like a man could ever give ONE woman enough attention…..how is he going to deal with 76
February 6th, 2013 at 5:38 pm
J Hill Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 5:34 pm
We need a playmaker at WR.
We need a starting CB.
We need a starting OLB.
I think we need 1 or 2 of these filled with a FA.
$$$$$$$$
You overpay in FA for good players due to demand, so do want to overpay for a stud PB RT or for guys like S Smith and D Bowe?
February 6th, 2013 at 5:38 pm
Resign Wheeler, try for Kruger or Barwin
February 6th, 2013 at 5:40 pm
Resign Wheeler, Bryant.
Restructure DHB
February 6th, 2013 at 5:41 pm
76 virgins?!?!
Who wants 76 virgins?!
Give me 1 virgin and 75 sluts.
February 6th, 2013 at 5:42 pm
NEW POST THANKS FAT BOY.
February 6th, 2013 at 5:42 pm
Yes Resign Wheeler also Desmond Bryant.
Sign an older guy like kyle vanden bosch then draft a young stud DE.
so many holes NEVERMIND!!
February 6th, 2013 at 5:43 pm
RT Smith could be our Lincoln Kennedy 2.0. I like that.
February 6th, 2013 at 5:43 pm
THE MOVE TO LA IS LOOKING PROMISING!!!
February 6th, 2013 at 5:43 pm
Where would Wheeler and Burris fit in a 3-4?
I’d like to see them get a NT in FA with so many available this year, and some notable veterans with some tread left on the tires.
February 6th, 2013 at 5:44 pm
We need play makers on defense at all three levels CB LB DL or DE
It may take some time…
February 6th, 2013 at 5:44 pm
76 virgins is going to be the Raider roster next by the looks of things.
I think the Raiders (Mark Davis et al) may have money or cash-flow problems that aren’t fully known yet.
February 6th, 2013 at 5:44 pm
Sign an older guy like kyle vanden bosch then draft a young stud DE.
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Andre Carter on a 1 year deal. He would come cheap.
February 6th, 2013 at 5:45 pm
Da Trinity Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 5:43 pm
THE MOVE TO LA IS LOOKING PROMISING!!!
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Because?
February 6th, 2013 at 5:46 pm
“THE MOVE TO LA IS LOOKING PROMISING!!!”
Not a big fan of LA but that does seem to be a reality now that they are covering up seats…. meanwhile across the bay they are selling $20,000 season tickets to the new stadium in Santa Clara.
February 6th, 2013 at 5:47 pm
Al Davis had been trying to get a Raider stadium built since, 1981?
February 6th, 2013 at 5:48 pm
They are covering up seats to guarantee a free 3 .5 hour commercial on LOCAL TV.
This is designed to elicit LOCAL response and support for the team.
February 6th, 2013 at 5:48 pm
@37
Jesus actually lived, check history.
February 6th, 2013 at 5:51 pm
@161
Dam!! That’s a lot of bread
February 6th, 2013 at 5:51 pm
I’d actually like to find a few more bargains like Wheeler in FA.
Some practice rd gems.
UDFAs and what not.
Don’t want to over pay for anyone.
February 6th, 2013 at 5:53 pm
“Jesus actually lived, check history.”
Uh actually he didn’t check history “Philo of Alexandria” a famous historian lived during that era and right in the city where Jesus supposedly lived and yet he never wrote about him…..Link below:
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/philo.html
February 6th, 2013 at 5:53 pm
I want a playmaker at #3.
I’d love for Millner to make it hard for us to pass on him.
I’d like to see us pull off another Kam Wimbley like trade as well.
February 6th, 2013 at 5:54 pm
Da Trinity Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 5:51 pm
@161
Dam!! That’s a lot of bread
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Uber wealthy people spend more on clothing in a year.
February 6th, 2013 at 5:56 pm
J Hill Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 5:51 pm
I’d actually like to find a few more bargains like Wheeler in FA.
Some practice rd gems.
UDFAs and what not.
Don’t want to over pay for anyone.
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100%
Wheeler is gonna get His this year however.
Reggie WILL NOT tag Him, but he will get a significant pay raise here or elsewhere.
February 6th, 2013 at 5:56 pm
Look at these prices
http://www.newsantaclarastadium.com/reserved-seat-financing
February 6th, 2013 at 5:57 pm
dr_robert Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 5:31 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 5:20 pm
dr slob I am not a muslim
you are an idiot though
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didn’t say u were.
but all of ur stupid rhetoric comes from the black muslim/black panther days of 1965.
we’ve all moved on. ur an antique. an ugly, bigot antique.
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i dont see any evidence whatsoever of those that classify themselves as white “moving on”
i just documented several young so called white supremacist killings and all are perpetrated by young people.
i also documented hollyweirds obsession with mis- educating people with their nonsense. All new
there is no proof of the “moving on” you claim
February 6th, 2013 at 5:58 pm
@160
It’s really common sense. The more the city of Oakland drags there feet, the more attractive LA looks. I’m pretty sure Mark has no issue leaving Oakland especially if he can get a shine new stadium in LA. He will be closer to his sorry clippers as well.
February 6th, 2013 at 5:59 pm
ok im done
I hope i can come back and post later this off season with out being attacked by racist
peace
February 6th, 2013 at 5:59 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 5:35 pm
Some stories in the Koran make more sense than the bible.
Take Noah’s ark for instance I think in the Koran it was a raft not a boat which makes sense or is more logical than a wooden boat that would have been crushed by the waves
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Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are all dealing with the same God.
February 6th, 2013 at 6:00 pm
I want the Raiders in LA because that’s were I live. But I’m cool if they stay in Oakland, either way, our team needs a new stadium.
February 6th, 2013 at 6:01 pm
It would be awesome if Dr Rob and Mistic were the same person. Like on some serious performance art stuff. Actually I will just believe that it’s true.
A beautifully dark commentary on the anonymous world of the internet where somebody can be anybody even at the same time.
Also, priority number one is defensive line! Have to get an anchor there.
February 6th, 2013 at 6:01 pm
i dont see any evidence whatsoever of those that classify themselves as white “moving on”
i just documented several young so called white supremacist killings and all are perpetrated by young people.
i also documented hollyweirds obsession with mis- educating people with their nonsense. All new
there is no proof of the “moving on” you claim
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I disagree, 0bama proves it.
February 6th, 2013 at 6:02 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 5:53 pm
“Jesus actually lived, check history.”
Uh actually he didn’t check history “Philo of Alexandria” a famous historian lived during that era and right in the city where Jesus supposedly lived and yet he never wrote about him…..Link below:
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/philo.html
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so ur proof Jesus didn’t exist is cuz a guy DIDN’T write about Him? that makes sense to u? i bet there are writers in ur town that aren’t writing about u. i guess u don’t exist.
and how do u know some of this guy’s writings didn’t vanish?
Jesus the person is a historical fact.
February 6th, 2013 at 6:02 pm
@ 175
No there not and if u were a true Christian you would never say that .
February 6th, 2013 at 6:03 pm
Da Trinity Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 5:58 pm
@160
It’s really common sense. The more the city of Oakland drags there feet, the more attractive LA looks. I’m pretty sure Mark has no issue leaving Oakland especially if he can get a shine new stadium in LA. He will be closer to his sorry clippers as well.
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I would agree that Mark Davis would move to LA yesterday if someone were to GIVE him a stadium.
Common sense tells me that ain’t happening.
DEVELOPERS are not philanthropists.
LA is an option, but from Today’s remarks by Amy Trask, Oakland is still the priority.
February 6th, 2013 at 6:07 pm
“so ur proof Jesus didn’t exist is cuz a guy DIDN’T write about Him? that makes sense to u? i bet there are writers in ur town that aren’t writing about u. i guess u don’t exist.”
I am a lowly janitor at the Taco Bell I doubt anyone would hardly care about me your right about that Einstein…… but you don’t think a local historian would want to write about the son of god preforming miracles in his own home town?
Really you cant see the logic here?
February 6th, 2013 at 6:08 pm
Well with the new airport Bart extension, I guess the Oakland Hegemberger option is still a possibility, but I doubt it.
February 6th, 2013 at 6:08 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 5:57 pm
i dont see any evidence whatsoever of those that classify themselves as white “moving on”
i just documented several young so called white supremacist killings and all are perpetrated by young people.
i also documented hollyweirds obsession with mis- educating people with their nonsense. All new
there is no proof of the “moving on” you claim
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the only person calling those arbitrarily selected killing “white supremacist” is u. just cuz they’re white guys killing black (and white) people.
u really need to know the definitions of the stupid things u call people.
hollywood has always bent thr truth. so what? it’s entertainment. if ur looking for history from people trying to make money off entertainment, then ur going about things all wrong.
they changed Nick Fury in x-men to a black guy cuz they wanted samuel l. jackson.
there is plenty of proof. the entire country has moved on, except for a few morons like u and fangs. the majority of us laugh at u guys.
we elected a black president. the end.
February 6th, 2013 at 6:09 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 6:01 pm
i dont see any evidence whatsoever of those that classify themselves as white “moving on”
i just documented several young so called white supremacist killings and all are perpetrated by young people.
i also documented hollyweirds obsession with mis- educating people with their nonsense. All new
there is no proof of the “moving on” you claim
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I disagree, 0bama proves it.
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there u go kell.
February 6th, 2013 at 6:11 pm
What makes Amy think Reg/DA can put out 53k asses in the seats. That’s a lot of ass for Reg/DA. Hope the Raiders aren’t the first team to fold. Just sayin. Really need the IHOP deal to come thru. Need it bad.
IHOP FIELD STADIUM, HOUSE OF THE OAKLAND RAIDERS
Co’mon Reg/DA. Ink that deal.
Eat pancakes and put 85K worth of ass in the seats.
Co’mon Reggie. Pass the butter and syrup. These pancakes are making me hungry.
IGAG.
WORD.
February 6th, 2013 at 6:11 pm
The Republican Party is in a lot of trouble outside of the South, because their schit isn’t selling.
February 6th, 2013 at 6:11 pm
Da Trinity Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 6:02 pm
@ 175
No there not and if u were a true Christian you would never say that .
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what are u talking about?
are u telling me Christianity doesn’t stem from Judaism?
an Orthodox Jew told me that Jews and Muslims worship the same God.
Christianity and Islam share a historical and traditional connection. The two faiths share a common origin in the Middle East[2] and Muslims consider Christians (and Jews) to be People of the Book. Belief in the Injil (the original Gospel of Jesus) is an important part of Islamic theology, although Muslims view the current Gospels as altered. The bond extends even further, with the Islamic Prophet Muhammad instructing Muslims to defend the Christian faith from aggressors after treaties of peace have been signed, such as in the document called the Achtiname of Muhammad. Islam and Christianity share the twin commandments of the paramount importance of loving God and loving one’s neighbor, although the interpretations of these statements differ between the two traditions, and, indeed, vary between all three Abrahamic religions.
February 6th, 2013 at 6:13 pm
Urban makers, Rural takers, tax dollar wise.
February 6th, 2013 at 6:13 pm
Da Trinity Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 6:02 pm
@ 175
No there not and if u were a true Christian you would never say that .
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don’t ever tell me i’m not a true Christian. this is where zealots start acting as if their interpretation is the only way.
there is only one thing required to be a Christian: accepting Jesus. the end.
February 6th, 2013 at 6:13 pm
Philo of Alexandria was one of 6 noted historians who lived during that time and none of them wrote about Jesus.
February 6th, 2013 at 6:15 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 6:13 pm
Philo of Alexandria was one of 6 noted historians who lived during that time and none of them wrote about Jesus.
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no. he was written about by historians. and not all writings have been saved. and His teachings were unpopular with many. especially those in positions of power.
February 6th, 2013 at 6:17 pm
@ Robert
Orthodox Jews don’t believe Jesus is the Messiah and they still believe we live under The Law so I wouldn’t take what they say so serious, and the only thing Islam has in common with with Christianity is the importance of Abraham. They believe Jesus was just a prophet and Christians believe He is the son of God. Big difference Robert.
February 6th, 2013 at 6:19 pm
One would think that Jesus would be a pretty significant historic event to write about……what happened?
Oh that’s right he is in that one book you all like so much.
February 6th, 2013 at 6:19 pm
peace
February 6th, 2013 at 6:21 pm
Again Robert a real Christian would never claim they worship the same God as Muslims Worship. Allah means moon God by the way. That’s who Muslims worship. Ever notice the cresent moon on all there Mosque?
February 6th, 2013 at 6:21 pm
Ok Dr Robert name a noted historian who lived between 20BC and 50AD who wrote about Jesus!
here is your chance to put an Atheist to shame PROVE IT!
February 6th, 2013 at 6:21 pm
Da Trinity Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 6:00 pm
I want the Raiders in LA because that’s were I live. But I’m cool if they stay in Oakland, either way, our team needs a new stadium.
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Reg/DA been schmoozing all the biggies at IHOP. They are gonna get IHOP to finance a new stadium. It will be called
IHOP FIELD STADIUM, HOUSE OF THE OAKLAND RAIDERS
Amenities will include:
Mini IHOPs thru out the stadium
Table seating
360 degrees if luxury boxes
The Raiders need this new stadium. We are crumbling at the supports. IHOP needs to come thru on this. Reg/DA need to ink this thing.
No ass = no money.
February 6th, 2013 at 6:22 pm
M1stic came back when i left, he was getting punked, way to show ur real side mistic, remember you’re a loser on this blog , Pocket passer humiliated dual threat guy , now suck on that loser
February 6th, 2013 at 6:23 pm
Da Trinity Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 6:17 pm
@ Robert
Orthodox Jews don’t believe Jesus is the Messiah and they still believe we live under The Law so I wouldn’t take what they say so serious, and the only thing Islam has in common with with Christianity is the importance of Abraham. They believe Jesus was just a prophet and Christians believe He is the son of God. Big difference Robert.
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i didn’t say there weren’t differences. Christians and Jews both worship Jehovah as God. Muslims and Jews worship the same God, with different names.
they are related religions. interpretations are different, but many similarities.
btw, i sa u come on here the other day calling people f-ags. that’s not Christian. that’s hate. Jesus loves gay people.
February 6th, 2013 at 6:23 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 6:19 pm
One would think that Jesus would be a pretty significant historic event to write about……what happened?
Oh that’s right he is in that one book you all like so much.
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Tell me more about this Jesus guy. What’s his 40 time?
February 6th, 2013 at 6:23 pm
better luck next season Mistic
February 6th, 2013 at 6:23 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 5:53 pm
“Jesus actually lived, check history.”
Uh actually he didn’t check history “Philo of Alexandria” a famous historian lived during that era and right in the city where Jesus supposedly lived and yet he never wrote about him…..Link below:
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Please take a Logic Class! Have you ever heard the cliche – you can not prove a negative. Simply because a person chose not to write about him does not mean that person does not exist. This is basic arguementation. As Bill Russell would say – get that weak action out of here…
February 6th, 2013 at 6:24 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 6:19 pm
peace
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peace? to who? not to the white children whose heads u want to chop off.
February 6th, 2013 at 6:26 pm
This whole religion BS is just a tool to make money, you don’t need to go to a church to become a good guy, but keep making your higher authorities even richer and stronger and keep bowing down to them
February 6th, 2013 at 6:26 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 6:21 pm
Ok Dr Robert name a noted historian who lived between 20BC and 50AD who wrote about Jesus!
here is your chance to put an Atheist to shame PROVE IT!
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Josephus, a Jewish aristocrat turned politician, was recruited by the Romans during the first Jewish revolt to act as a mediator and write a historical record of events at the time. He records that Jesus was a wise man that did many wonderful works, and that many people – both Jews and Gentiles – followed after him. The Talmud, written by Jewish sources at the time, is (not surprisingly) unfriendly toward the founder of Christianity. The important point, however, is that Jewish sources do not deny that Jesus was a real historical figure — they only promote a different interpretation of of his conception.
February 6th, 2013 at 6:26 pm
Keep giving them money after money
February 6th, 2013 at 6:26 pm
The four gospels – Matthew, Mark, Luke and John – are judged by most scholars to be reliable, historical testimony of eye-witnesses. These gospels, as well as the Acts of the Apostles, the letters of Paul and the other Apostles, are judged to have been written from 40 A.D. to 100 A.D. — all within a few decades of the life of Jesus. The early church fathers were the leaders and teachers in the church who followed the apostles – many were also disciples of these same apostles.
February 6th, 2013 at 6:27 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 6:26 pm
This whole religion BS is just a tool to make money, you don’t need to go to a church to become a good guy, but keep making your higher authorities even richer and stronger and keep bowing down to them
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i bow only to God. and there are certainly corruptions in religion, but many charitable acts as well.
February 6th, 2013 at 6:28 pm
Cornelius Tacitus (c. A.D. 55-120)
A Roman historian who lived through the reign of over a half-dozen Roman emperors1, Tacitus has been called “the greatest historian of ancient Rome. His most famous works are the Annals and the Histories. The Annals covers from 14 A.D. to approximately 68 A.D. (the death of Augustus up to the time of Nero), while Histories proceeds from 68 A.D. (Nero’s death) to 96 A.D. (the time of Domitian).
Here is what Tacitus wrote concerning the history of Jesus, and the existence of Christians in Rome:
“But not all the relief that could come from man, not all the bounties that the price could bestow, nor all the atonements which could be presented to the gods, availed to relieve Nero from the infamy of being believed to have ordered the conflagration, the fire of Rome. Hence to suppress the rumor, he falsely charged with the guilt, and punished with the most exquisite tortures, the persons commonly called Christians, who were hated for their enormities. Christus, the founder of the name, was put to death by Pontius Pilate, procurator of Judea in the reign of Tiberius: but the pernicious superstition, repressed for a time, broke out again, not only through Judea, where the mischief originated, but through the city of Rome also.” (Annals XV, 44)1.
February 6th, 2013 at 6:28 pm
“This whole religion BS is just a tool to make money,”
or to touch little kids
February 6th, 2013 at 6:28 pm
sorry if i offend anyone but Churches, Temples, Mosque are all just money making buildings
February 6th, 2013 at 6:28 pm
Thallus
Thallus, a Samaritan-born historian who lived and worked in Rome about 52 A.D., “wrote a history of the Eastern Mediterranean world from the Trojan was to his own time.” (Habernas, VECELJ, 93). Although the original writings of Thallus are lost to us, Julius Africanus, a Christian historian of the late second century (2221 A,D.), was familiar with them and quotes from them. One very interesting passage from Thallus relates to the darkness that enveloped the land at the time of Christ’s crucifixion. Julius Africanus writes as follows:
“Thallus, in the third book of his histories, explains away this darkness as as an eclipse of the sun – unreasonably, as it seems to me (unreasonably, of course, because a solar eclipse could not take place at the time of the full moon, and it was at the season of the Paschal full moon that Christ died.” (Julius Africanus, Chronography, 18.1)
February 6th, 2013 at 6:29 pm
Suetonius
Another Roman historian, Suetonius, a court official under the emperor Hadrian, stated in his Life of Claudius (written about 120 A.D.) that Christians were expelled from Rome because of Christ (whom he calls Chrestus)::
“As the Jews were making constant disturbances at the instigation of Chrestus, he [Claudius] expelled them from Rome”. (Life of Claudius, 25:4)1
February 6th, 2013 at 6:29 pm
dr_robert Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 6:27 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 6:26 pm
This whole religion BS is just a tool to make money, you don’t need to go to a church to become a good guy, but keep making your higher authorities even richer and stronger and keep bowing down to them
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i bow only to God. and there are certainly corruptions in religion, but many charitable acts as well.
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More corruption than charitable acts
February 6th, 2013 at 6:29 pm
Pliny the Younger
C. Plinus Secundus, called Pliny the Younger to distinguish him from his uncle, was governor of Bithynia in Asia Minor about A.D. 112. He wrote to the emperor Trajan to seek advice on how to deal with the problem of Christians in his province. He recounted to Trajan in his letters that he had been killing so many, he was considering whether he should continue killing anyone who professed to be a Christian, or only certain ones. He explains that he made them bow down to statues of Trajan, and “curse Christ, which a genuine Christian cannot be induced to do.” In the same letter he say of the people who were being tried:
“They affirmed, however, that the whole of their guilt, or their error, was, that they were in the habit of meeting on a certain fixed day before it was light, when they sang in alternate verse a hymn to Christ as to a god, and bound themselves to a solemn oath, not to do any wicked deeds, but never to commit any fraud, theft, adultery, never to falsify their word, not to deny a trust when they should be called upon to deliver it up.” (Epistles X, 96)
February 6th, 2013 at 6:29 pm
@Robert
A f@g is someone that’s gay. So yes that what ill call them. I don’t hate gays, I work with them. I don’t disrepect them or treat them bad. But if they ask my opinion I would let them know my stance. And by the way ‘Holy Man’ I pretty sure you called mistic a female dog, so I wouldn’t jump on my high horse.
February 6th, 2013 at 6:30 pm
Phiegon
Another secular authority, Phlegon, wrote a book entitled Chronicles, which was quoted by Julius Africanus. Like Thallus, Phiegon acknowledges that a darkness fell upon the land about the time of Christ’s death, and like Thallus he attributes this to a solar eclipse:
“During the time of Tiberius Caesar an eclipse of the sun occurred during the full moon.” (Africanus, Chronography, 18.1)
Mara Bar-Serapion
In the British Museum we have the text of a letter written by a Mara Bar-Serapion to his son, encouraging him to pursue wisdom. This letter, written by this Syrian and probably Stoic philosopher, is dated about 70 A.D. He compares Socrates, Pythagoras and the King of the Jews (which by context points to Jesus):
“What advantage did the Jews gain from executing their King? It was just after that that their kingdom was abolished.”
February 6th, 2013 at 6:30 pm
“Please take a Logic Class! Have you ever heard the cliche – you can not prove a negative. Simply because a person chose not to write about him does not mean that person does not exist. This is basic arguementation. As Bill Russell would say – get that weak action out of here…”
Calm down there Cujo I didn’t proclaim it was proof of anything just that it was one of many reasons why people like me did believe that he ever existed.
February 6th, 2013 at 6:30 pm
what blog am I on anyway?
February 6th, 2013 at 6:32 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 6:29 pm
dr_robert Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 6:27 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 6:26 pm
This whole religion BS is just a tool to make money, you don’t need to go to a church to become a good guy, but keep making your higher authorities even richer and stronger and keep bowing down to them
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i bow only to God. and there are certainly corruptions in religion, but many charitable acts as well.
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More corruption than charitable acts
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no dude. the Church has done so much to spread peace and goodwill. the acts of some corrupt azzholes can’t hold a candle to it.
but those charlatans who steal in the name of God are going to get theirs.
February 6th, 2013 at 6:32 pm
Just found out IHOP will finance a 25,000 seat stadium. Reggie likes this. Mini IHOPs are still on the table. But Reggie has insisted the the 25,000 seat stadium can be added on to in 15,000 seat increments to accommodate the resurgence of the fan base. It will take time. Dumbing down the seating capacity is a huge blow. But a new 25K seating stadium sounds good right now. Baby steps Reg/DA. Baby steps.
February 6th, 2013 at 6:32 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 6:30 pm
“Please take a Logic Class! Have you ever heard the cliche – you can not prove a negative. Simply because a person chose not to write about him does not mean that person does not exist. This is basic arguementation. As Bill Russell would say – get that weak action out of here…”
Calm down there Cujo I didn’t proclaim it was proof of anything just that it was one of many reasons why people like me did believe that he ever existed.
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but i just named many historians who did write about Him.
February 6th, 2013 at 6:33 pm
NOW back to more important questions:
“Tell me more about this Jesus guy. What’s his 40 time?”
4.32 when sober or not drunk from wine
He is faster on water so we might do the Michael Phelpes thing with him…..Which brings me to this question
Why do conservatives like Jesus so much?
He is a total hippy free healthcare free food telling people to buck the system and not pay taxes sounds like a liberal hippy to me?…..can someone help me understand this?
February 6th, 2013 at 6:33 pm
@Robert
I will give you props on those list of historians though
February 6th, 2013 at 6:33 pm
Da Trinity Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 6:29 pm
@Robert
A f@g is someone that’s gay. So yes that what ill call them. I don’t hate gays, I work with them. I don’t disrepect them or treat them bad. But if they ask my opinion I would let them know my stance. And by the way ‘Holy Man’ I pretty sure you called mistic a female dog, so I wouldn’t jump on my high horse.
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missdick preaches evil. he has it coming.
i didn’t say i’m a Holy Man. just a Christian. fallible like everyone.
February 6th, 2013 at 6:34 pm
Is it true, the pope might be the richest guy in the world?
February 6th, 2013 at 6:34 pm
Da Trinity Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 6:33 pm
@Robert
I will give you props on those list of historians though
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http://evidencetobelieve.net/history_of_jesus.htm
February 6th, 2013 at 6:35 pm
“but i just named many historians who did write about Him.”
Uh no you just named people who wrote in the bible..I am talking about people outside your circle!
COME ON MAN!
February 6th, 2013 at 6:35 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 6:34 pm
Is it true, the pope might be the richest guy in the world?
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the pope owns nothing. the Church has a lot of wealth, due to art, gold, etc. there is much debate among Christians as to the appropriateness of that, or even the legitimacy of the pope.
February 6th, 2013 at 6:37 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 6:35 pm
“but i just named many historians who did write about Him.”
Uh no you just named people who wrote in the bible..I am talking about people outside your circle!
COME ON MAN!
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no. all of the quotes i listed above were from non-Christian, non-Jewish historians, in addition to the many Jewish and Christian writers.
February 6th, 2013 at 6:37 pm
I’m pretty sure if Hemp Smith is available at #3, Big Reggie will pull the trigger. I don’t agree with it but I do like what Raiderallday posted about him.
February 6th, 2013 at 6:37 pm
Cornelius Tacitus
Thallus
Suetonius
Pliny the Younger
Phiegon
Mara Bar-Serapion
February 6th, 2013 at 6:37 pm
Instead of spreading hate and race baiting, we need to spread peace and goodwill. Calling someone names like a 6th grader is very Christian.
Support your local IHOP.
After all, they are going to finance Reggie’s new 25,000 seat stadium.
IHOP FIELD STADIUM, HOUSE OF THE OAKLAND RAIDERS
Go IHOP.
February 6th, 2013 at 6:38 pm
Martin Luther King Jr existed, Ghandi, existed, Buddha existed too.
February 6th, 2013 at 6:38 pm
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 6:30 pm
what blog am I on anyway?
^^^^^^^^^
Oh you didn’t hear? We gave up on Raider talk.
Here is your new handle..
Religionaholic (AKABurningBush)
Jump in whenever you want. Just keep it within topic (not football).
February 6th, 2013 at 6:39 pm
“Phiegon
Another secular authority, Phlegon, wrote a book entitled Chronicles, which was quoted by Julius Africanus. Like Thallus, Phiegon acknowledges that a darkness fell upon the land about the time of Christ’s death, and like Thallus he attributes this to a solar eclipse:”
Ok lets examine this for a minute REALITY CHECK… You do realize that he claims its a solar eclipse and not Jesus….I asked you to show me historians who wrote about Jesus not a solar eclipse, you are reaching for straws pal.
February 6th, 2013 at 6:40 pm
*Geno
Auto correct SMH
February 6th, 2013 at 6:40 pm
Check out the” Vicars of Christ” by Peter Derosa a former Jesuit.
February 6th, 2013 at 6:40 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 6:33 pm
NOW back to more important questions:
“Tell me more about this Jesus guy. What’s his 40 time?”
4.32 when sober or not drunk from wine
He is faster on water so we might do the Michael Phelpes thing with him…..Which brings me to this question
Why do conservatives like Jesus so much?
He is a total hippy free healthcare free food telling people to buck the system and not pay taxes sounds like a liberal hippy to me?…..can someone help me understand this?
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the so-called religious conservatives get a lot of press. but they don’t represent most Christians. i can’t stand religious conservatives.
most Catholics are Democrats and are anti-death penalty.
the azzholes who wrap themselves in the flag and call themselves Christians while doing non-Christian things are not Christians. they say the devil can quote scripture. and he’s the great trickster. he tries to convinve people that being Christian is a bad thing. those people are liars.
February 6th, 2013 at 6:41 pm
“Publius (or Gaius) Cornelius Tacitus (56 AD – 117 AD) was a senator and a historian of the Roman Empire.”
Was born 56 years after Jesus died HOW IS this guy going to prove Jesus lived……DOH you lied again!
February 6th, 2013 at 6:41 pm
Martin Luther King Jr existed, Ghandi, existed, Buddha existed too.
That is true!
February 6th, 2013 at 6:42 pm
Gandhi divided India, Hindu’s and Muslims were living peacefully before that, some one always have to eff it up
February 6th, 2013 at 6:42 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 6:39 pm
“Phiegon
Another secular authority, Phlegon, wrote a book entitled Chronicles, which was quoted by Julius Africanus. Like Thallus, Phiegon acknowledges that a darkness fell upon the land about the time of Christ’s death, and like Thallus he attributes this to a solar eclipse:”
Ok lets examine this for a minute REALITY CHECK… You do realize that he claims its a solar eclipse and not Jesus….I asked you to show me historians who wrote about Jesus not a solar eclipse, you are reaching for straws pal.
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he does write about Jesus’s death. he claims the darkness was caused by an eclipse.
http://evidencetobelieve.net/history_of_jesus.htm
February 6th, 2013 at 6:43 pm
u just said whites weren’t human.
I’m ok with that.
February 6th, 2013 at 6:44 pm
Gaius Suetonius Tranquillus,
His most important surviving work is a set of biographies of twelve successive Roman rulers, from Julius Caesar to Domitian…so you are saying that Christ lived during Crasars reign?
Not so Cesar died 60 years before your Jesus guy was born…so again YOU LIED!
I am not doing any research on the other people you posted because its obvious you were lying.
I am done folks I hate liars!
February 6th, 2013 at 6:45 pm
You guys should check out “Amelie.” Yes if you don’t know French you will have to read subtitles but its gorgeous. You can pause it at any moment and have a beautiful image.
Other than that you should check out Trongs. A cleaner way to eat hot wings.
Here is the link for proof.
http://trongs.com/
February 6th, 2013 at 6:45 pm
I would like for Pryor to be the future but I’m not convince he will be. I would hate to pass up on Geno and watch him be a baller some where else.
February 6th, 2013 at 6:45 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 6:38 pm
Martin Luther King Jr existed, Ghandi, existed, Buddha existed too.
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So did Al Davis.
He would NEVER have allowed Reg/DA to dumb down the seating. To me, that says:
since we are going to put an awful team out the and lose lose lose there is no way we are going to out ass in the seats. So lets save money by shutting out 10,000 seats. No asses, no maintenance staff to clean the messes. Brilliant in that part. Devastating for the fan.
Lack of ass = headache. Where are we gonna get the money to pay for bona fide players? This is bad news. We need IHOP to come in and bail us out. IHOP. Now.
Go IHOP.
February 6th, 2013 at 6:46 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 6:38 pm
Martin Luther King Jr existed, Ghandi, existed, Buddha existed too.
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there are people who have conjectured that Jesus, Muhammad, and Buddha are the same guy, appearing in different areas.
i don’t about that but similar teachings.
February 6th, 2013 at 6:46 pm
In an earlier post someone wonders why Jerry or Steve won’t do a piece with cap numbers etc… The reason is they “don’t believe in the cap” if they cover it at all there will be some snide remark how it does not matter and they will always sign the man they want. I wonder if they still feel the same way now that the reality of overspending and bad roster moves has finally caught up with the Raiders.
February 6th, 2013 at 6:46 pm
Sikhs always been minority in the India, Sikhs had the biggest hand behind the independence of India, even though our population is like 1% of total Indian population, but still they attacked innocent sikhs, attacked on our Golden Temple, had military sent into our place of worship with guns, shoes, and bare heads, when all that is against the religion, still in India, state of Punjab doesn’t get much help from Indian government as the rest of the country
February 6th, 2013 at 6:46 pm
SilverLining20 Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 6:38 pm
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 6:30 pm
what blog am I on anyway?
^^^^^^^^^
Oh you didn’t hear? We gave up on Raider talk.
Here is your new handle..
Religionaholic (AKABurningBush)
Jump in whenever you want. Just keep it within topic (not football).
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LOL
February 6th, 2013 at 6:47 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 6:44 pm
Gaius Suetonius Tranquillus,
His most important surviving work is a set of biographies of twelve successive Roman rulers, from Julius Caesar to Domitian…so you are saying that Christ lived during Crasars reign?
Not so Cesar died 60 years before your Jesus guy was born…so again YOU LIED!
I am not doing any research on the other people you posted because its obvious you were lying.
I am done folks I hate liars!
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i listed historians that wrote about Jesus. it’s from a webpage. go ahead and believe what u want. atheism won’t fulfill u though.
February 6th, 2013 at 6:48 pm
All your quotes come form one web site and are all taken out of context and poorly explained.
that site is horrible
February 6th, 2013 at 6:48 pm
I didn’t like Geno’s last performance, but maybe the weather was a factor?
February 6th, 2013 at 6:48 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 6:44 pm
Gaius Suetonius Tranquillus,
His most important surviving work is a set of biographies of twelve successive Roman rulers, from Julius Caesar to Domitian…so you are saying that Christ lived during Crasars reign?
Not so Cesar died 60 years before your Jesus guy was born…so again YOU LIED!
I am not doing any research on the other people you posted because its obvious you were lying.
I am done folks I hate liars!
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Suetonius
Another Roman historian, Suetonius, a court official under the emperor Hadrian, stated in his Life of Claudius (written about 120 A.D.) that Christians were expelled from Rome because of Christ (whom he calls Chrestus)::
“As the Jews were making constant disturbances at the instigation of Chrestus, he [Claudius] expelled them from Rome”. (Life of Claudius, 25:4)1
In another of his works, Suetonius records the punishment that Christians were receiving in Rome during the time of Nero (64 A.D.):
“Punishment by Nero was inflicted on the Christians, a class of men given to a new and mischievous superstition.” (Lives of the Caesars, 26.2)
This “superstition” undoubtedly refers to the conviction by early Christians that Christ had been crucified and risen from the dead.
February 6th, 2013 at 6:49 pm
“atheism won’t fulfill u though.”
I don’t need to be filled I am a guy I fill things!
February 6th, 2013 at 6:49 pm
Can we just cut some over paid player just for the sake of some real news
February 6th, 2013 at 6:50 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 6:48 pm
All your quotes come form one web site and are all taken out of context and poorly explained.
that site is horrible
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it’s simple. many people around that time accepted the factual existence of Jesus of Nazereth.
and His teachings are fantastic. even if u don’t believe, u can’t argue against His teachings of love, peace, and forgiveness.
February 6th, 2013 at 6:50 pm
Dr_robert Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 6:46 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 6:38 pm
Martin Luther King Jr existed, Ghandi, existed, Buddha existed too.
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there are people who have conjectured that Jesus, Muhammad, and Buddha are the same guy, appearing in different areas.
i don’t about that but similar teachings.
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I never said that. I said they were people who existed, too.
February 6th, 2013 at 6:51 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 6:49 pm
“atheism won’t fulfill u though.”
I don’t need to be filled I am a guy I fill things!
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spoken like so many who feel so empty after they realize money, drugs, and sex are temporary. there is likely sadness in you.
February 6th, 2013 at 6:51 pm
@Robert
People are going to believe what they want believe. No matter if you find something written a week after Jesus resurrected , they would want you to produce a quote written the day after he resurrected. Lose lose situation.
February 6th, 2013 at 6:52 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 6:50 pm
Dr_robert Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 6:46 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 6:38 pm
Martin Luther King Jr existed, Ghandi, existed, Buddha existed too.
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there are people who have conjectured that Jesus, Muhammad, and Buddha are the same guy, appearing in different areas.
i don’t about that but similar teachings.
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I never said that. I said they were people who existed, too.
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yes, kell. i know. i was then commenting.
February 6th, 2013 at 6:53 pm
Da Trinity Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 6:51 pm
@Robert
People are going to believe what they want believe. No matter if you find something written a week after Jesus resurrected , they would want you to produce a quote written the day after he resurrected. Lose lose situation.
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true enuff. but i need to plant seeds for the guy. hopefully, when he’s in a dark place, he will remember and turn to God.
February 6th, 2013 at 6:53 pm
Guess what people.
If the Raiders fold, so goes this blog. Reggie and DA must in that deal with IHOP or we are efff you see Kay e Deed up the ass.
IHOP to the rescue.
February 6th, 2013 at 6:53 pm
SBreport@SBreport
Think Raiders should bail on Terrelle Pryor? Colin Kaepernick had 0 TD’s, 5 INT’s, took 8 sacks, fumbled twice in first 4 preseason games.
February 6th, 2013 at 6:54 pm
A guess some people won’t find out untill they die if Gods real. By then it will be to late. But you have a free will and you can choose to believe or not. It’s really that simple.
February 6th, 2013 at 6:54 pm
Ok guys I have a new prospect for u guys to keep a look out for. Just played in texas vs the nation game.
HB/Fullback DAN MOORE out of Montana. Guy is a truck load and runs a 4.5.. I could see him in goaline situations.. alot better then DMAC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8XOLx0YQ5Q
February 6th, 2013 at 6:55 pm
The guy is a football player and plays ANGRY.. he is not finesse.. JUST PURE POWER
February 6th, 2013 at 6:55 pm
Hey 666
If you really have an open mind read Evidence that Demands a Verdict. It is one of the most heavily sourced books on the existence of Jesus and gets into textural criticism and goes back to orginal manuscript sources. It is an apologetics book but it is orignally sourced so you can not say it is a pack of lies.
Bottom line you would have to have a screw loose to look at that evidence and think Jesus did not live in Palistine. The only people that deny this are people that are ignorant of the facts or people that distort. It is not even debatable among fully infomed people even athiests or agnostics that are intellectually honest.
February 6th, 2013 at 6:55 pm
Ink the deal Reggie. Get IHOP on board.
February 6th, 2013 at 6:55 pm
Dr_robert Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 6:53 pm
Da Trinity Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 6:51 pm
@Robert
People are going to believe what they want believe. No matter if you find something written a week after Jesus resurrected , they would want you to produce a quote written the day after he resurrected. Lose lose situation.
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true enuff. but i need to plant seeds for the guy. hopefully, when he’s in a dark place, he will remember and turn to God.
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Self-righteous people like you make me sick. You spew about the Raiders in the same way. Yuck!
February 6th, 2013 at 6:56 pm
Now back to football, I hope
February 6th, 2013 at 6:58 pm
Looks like the Chiefs are making a hard push for Alex smith already. .ready to deal picks to NINERS for him.
its crazy the niners have 14 NFL draft picks this year and they will probaly end up with 17.. Freaking crazy
Pass on Bjorn Werner.. Scouts say he has already peaked. Damontre Moore is like another version of Matt Shaunnshey maybe a bit better.
Raiders need PASS RUSHERS.. Explosive..pure pass rushers.
DION JORDAN, MINGO should all be in the mix.
My favorite with a huge, huge upside is ANSAH who dominated the senior bowl and being compared to JPP. Mocks drafts have him not getting anywhere out of the TOP TEN now.
Its believed to be that the LIONS will either pick ANSAH or DEE MILLINER at 5 after they just cut KYLE Van Bosche.. and Avril might be gone in FA
Walter football Charlie campbell has Ansah going 6th to the Browns.
Dont forget a guy named Bruce Irvin was projected to go late 2nd round last year.. was just a pure speed rusher.. went 15th overall to seachickens and had 8 sacks.
ANsah does more at 280 pounds.. can rush.. and play the run
February 6th, 2013 at 6:59 pm
@267
But that kaepersnack got a cannon
February 6th, 2013 at 7:00 pm
Doctor
STOP feeding the troll!
I get all psyched because a new post is up and the first thing I see is you and Mistic having another hate-makeout session. Let it alone!
Besides, we all know Mistic is just bitter because Driving Miss Daisy jump-started Morgan Freeman’s career.
February 6th, 2013 at 7:00 pm
IGAG Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 6:55 pm
Ink the deal Reggie. Get IHOP on board.
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what is ur freaking deal with ihop?
February 6th, 2013 at 7:02 pm
Whatever KK, if I don’t agree with ur view I’m self righteous. Lol
February 6th, 2013 at 7:02 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 6:55 pm
Dr_robert Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 6:53 pm
Da Trinity Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 6:51 pm
@Robert
People are going to believe what they want believe. No matter if you find something written a week after Jesus resurrected , they would want you to produce a quote written the day after he resurrected. Lose lose situation.
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true enuff. but i need to plant seeds for the guy. hopefully, when he’s in a dark place, he will remember and turn to God.
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Self-righteous people like you make me sick. You spew about the Raiders in the same way. Yuck!
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i’m not self-righteous. not at all. i have beliefs, but i’m fallible.
i talk a little smack but so what? and i am usually right about the raiders. and other stuff too. and i never get on people for having an opinion. i’m free to tell them i think they’re wrong though.
i only have really went after two people here.
beech and missdick.
and both of them deserve it.
February 6th, 2013 at 7:05 pm
Papertiger418 Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 7:00 pm
Doctor
STOP feeding the troll!
I get all psyched because a new post is up and the first thing I see is you and Mistic having another hate-makeout session. Let it alone!
Besides, we all know Mistic is just bitter because Driving Miss Daisy jump-started Morgan Freeman’s career.
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well, eeexxxxxxccccccuuuuuussssssseeeee mmmeeeeeeee!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zANvYB93u2g
February 6th, 2013 at 7:09 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 6:54 pm
Ok guys I have a new prospect for u guys to keep a look out for. Just played in texas vs the nation game.
HB/Fullback DAN MOORE out of Montana. Guy is a truck load and runs a 4.5.. I could see him in goaline situations.. alot better then DMAC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8XOLx0YQ5Q
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Interesting, looks like DB’s don’t want much to do with him.
February 6th, 2013 at 7:10 pm
Dr_robert Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 7:00 pm
IGAG Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 6:55 pm
Ink the deal Reggie. Get IHOP on board.
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what is ur freaking deal with ihop?
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What’s your deal with Mistic? All day every day. I just found out some good news about the Raiders. In spite of Reg/DA dumbing down the seating to the lowest capacity in the entire NFL.
IHOP is about to get behind the financing for a new stadium. I’m fckng pumped up about that. At least IHOP has some serious balls to step forward and bail out this organization.
February 6th, 2013 at 7:10 pm
Reggie – pay attention.
* Palmer – Demand (nicely) a pay cut and restructure to get salary in line with age/performance. He needs to be making more like Alex Smith money at this point – 8 mill a year or so, not 13 mill that’s insane he won’t get that anywhere else. He is rich beyond belief already – he doesn’t need money – he wants to win. We need money to get players to win with.
* DMAC – Extend his contract to 2016 with 4 yr/20 million with escalators if he performs – add injury back-out clauses. Best deal he’s going to get in the NFL with his history. He’s still a baller in the right system.
* DHB – release and don’t look back – he just can’t catch, or get open, or fight for the ball, or … Great guy, bad player. Not tradeable at 10 mill this year.
* Kelly – release. His days sucking the Raider teet is over. If he wants to return at vet min – ok but I doubt it – he’s a Saint or Falcon next year.
* Lechler – offer avg of top 10 punters money. If he won’t take it .. trade Seabass
* Seabass – trade to the Niners for a low 3rd or 4th round pick. Plenty of avg kickers out there for cheap – 55+ yarders aint going to make any difference for the Raiders this year and Seabass is a FA next year and will be gone anyway in 2014 might as well find a long term replacement now.
* McClain – release after June 1 – unless someone is stupid (er I mean willing) to trade for him before then. Rams? 6/7th rounder? Conditional 2014 pick?
Sign
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* Bryant – 4 yr/20 mil – solid starter/rotational player – he’s a solid 2 down DE in 3-4 too
* Wheeler – 4yr/14 mil – solid starter and leader on D not elite by any means
* Shaughnasty – 4yr/12 mil – injuries and bad 2012 lowers value good for us we know he’s good
* Meyers – 4yr/12 mil – Decent player. Good hands but *not elite* and he might have played bigger for his contract year – what about Gordon and Ausberry, I like them better so don’t offer big money for Meyers.
* Mike Mitchell – 3 yr/6.5 mil – underrated IMO – solid backup, key ST player, hard worker, young.
* Brandion Ross – 3 yr/6 mil – showed potential – versatile and can start on ST
* Phillip Adams – 3 yr/6 mil – showed potential at CB and def got better – ST player
* Kaelin Burnett – 3 yr/4 mil – decent backup and potential key ST player
* Alex Parsons – 2 yr/3.5 mil – decent backup at C/OG lock up for a couple years
* Andre Carter – 2 yr/3.5 mil – good vet came on strong last year has something left
* Khalif Barnes – 1 yr min – good vet backup at both tackle spots
* Cooper Carlisle – 1 yr min – good vet backup at both guard spots
* Andre Carter – 1 yr min – good vet came on strong last year
* Omar Gaither – 1 yr min – looked solid – can backup all LB spots and play ST
* Hagan – 1 yr min – good player – may not make team with Ford back in mix
* Matt Giordano – 1 yr min – good leader for offseason program – likely cut after preseason.
* Joselio Hanson – 1 yr min – cut in preseason if he doesn’t get more consistent
* Mike Goodson – 1 yr min – not sold on him – needs to play ST (Raiders need to add big back in offseason!) – might not make team
* Jeremy Stewart – 1 yr min – can compete with Goodson to make team
February 6th, 2013 at 7:13 pm
Guys, can we just talk about football please??? This racist bullsh@t is getting old!!!
February 6th, 2013 at 7:14 pm
* Mike Goodson – 1 yr min – not sold on him – needs to play ST (Raiders need to add big back in offseason!) – might not make team
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Goodson has been playing on ST……
Remember what his role was?
February 6th, 2013 at 7:15 pm
This is supposed to be a FOOTBALL blog, not a religion blog…Come on!!!!
February 6th, 2013 at 7:16 pm
What up, MR? How long you think? A week? A month? I’ll let you slide a while.
February 6th, 2013 at 7:17 pm
[...] Raiders close `Mt. Davis’ _ capacity 53,200 The Raiders announced Wednesday they will reduce capacity at O.co Coliseum by nearly 10,000 to 53,200 in 2013 and relocate approximately 4,850 fans from the east side high-rise structure known as “Mt. Davis.’’ [...]
February 6th, 2013 at 7:18 pm
This is supposed to be a FOOTBALL blog, not a religion blog…Come on!!!!
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It is my religion!
February 6th, 2013 at 7:18 pm
How could you not be sold on Goodson?
February 6th, 2013 at 7:18 pm
Godeep Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 7:13 pm
Guys, can we just talk about football please??? This racist bullsh@t is getting old!!!
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as old as time.
February 6th, 2013 at 7:19 pm
If Reg/DA ink the IHOP deal, we are set with a butt load of spending dollars.
Closing off seats is not a good sign.
Lowest seating capacity is not good.
No ass = no money.
The IHOP deal is akin to Wall Street and the auto industry and the banking industry bail outs. IHOP will bail out the Raiders. It is a big freaking deal. I’m shocked cork hasn’t broken the story. We need this deal.
February 6th, 2013 at 7:19 pm
Godeep Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 7:15 pm
This is supposed to be a FOOTBALL blog, not a religion blog…Come on!!!!
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it’s a message board, not a blog.
February 6th, 2013 at 7:20 pm
Llama Man, I’m heading up to your neck of the woods this weekend for Joe Cane Days. Looking forward to seeing Nev City in all its glory.
February 6th, 2013 at 7:22 pm
Wow first time i could get a message up in 2 days..
F u cork and jerry
February 6th, 2013 at 7:23 pm
Get IHOP on board.
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IHOP is OK by me, and, as usual, I’ve no idea what you are talking about.
February 6th, 2013 at 7:29 pm
it’s actually called inside the Raiders blog
February 6th, 2013 at 7:30 pm
Nice breakdown #284. Agree with your restructuring of Palmer,releasing of TK and DHB. I wouldn’t jump right into the re-signing all the players listed, but pretty solid. Shoughnessy sticks out to me as a keeper.
February 6th, 2013 at 7:30 pm
Godeep Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 7:15 pm
This is supposed to be a FOOTBALL blog, not a religion blog…Come on!!!!
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it’s a message board, not a blog.
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Sorry!!!
February 6th, 2013 at 7:31 pm
Melvin Bullitt coming to the Raiders for a workout. If anything will be a 1yr deal. Was a good play for the colts
February 6th, 2013 at 7:32 pm
Actually Dr Robert, The section is “Inside the Raiders BLOG”!!!
February 6th, 2013 at 7:32 pm
Has Palmer been cut yet?
Cut him Reggie!
February 6th, 2013 at 7:33 pm
So Raider home games will now resemble their co-tenants. yuck
February 6th, 2013 at 7:33 pm
How can teams like the Niners have so many top players under contract and we have so few? Looking at the 2012 salary charts, the Niners were actually paying salaries well over the cap in 2012 by a significant margin by using the ‘carry over’ rule. They were able to carry over $30 million in unused cap from the previous year and pay salaries up to that amount without counting against the cap this year. The Raiders were able to carry over zip/nada and they also had $30 million in ‘dead money’. The Niners had less than $400k in dead money that counts against the cap.
Talk about cap hell. The Raiders only paid like $78 million in *actual* salary while and the Niners paid like $120 million but the Raiders barely made the cap.
I don’t think Al ever cared to understand the salary cap and def blew it up in his last years.
We will still have significant dead money this season too but not as much. Don’t expect any big FA signings – there just isn’t the cap space.
February 6th, 2013 at 7:37 pm
RaideredoutL.A. Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 7:33 pm
So Raider home games will now resemble their co-tenants. yuck
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The Coliseum needs to be tore down not tarped off
February 6th, 2013 at 7:37 pm
Al Davis, Pete Rozzelle, Oakland Coiseum, LA Coliseum, LA Coliseum commission(elected every three years, beholden to no one),LA sellouts at 93,000(worlds largest), anything you want to know about any of this, I know.
Back to the MR/Mistic/Dr doob show.
February 6th, 2013 at 7:38 pm
[..] Raiders, Reggie and IHOP soon to ink deal….. [..] IHOP could ‘buy out’ the Oakland Raiders. Considering where Oakland ranks amongst the NFLs 32 teams, an IHOP spokeswoman says the deal is ‘very affordable and very doable’. Asked about funding for a new stadium, IHOPs spokeswoman said the details for that are written in with the buy out. It remains unclear if Mark Davis will remain with the Raiders as an employe of IHOP, but one thing is certain. Davis is very excited about the proposed deal [..] [..]
February 6th, 2013 at 7:39 pm
Da Trinity Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 7:02 pm
Whatever KK, if I don’t agree with ur view I’m self righteous. Lol
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Exactly ass backwards, dumbass.
February 6th, 2013 at 7:40 pm
Love the atmosphere at the O, but yeah it needs to go. Thinking about it, Cali has the most out dated football stadiums in the NFL and in NCAAF.
February 6th, 2013 at 7:41 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 7:31 pm
Melvin Bullitt coming to the Raiders for a workout. If anything will be a 1yr deal. Was a good play for the colts
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i like it
February 6th, 2013 at 7:41 pm
im out
February 6th, 2013 at 7:43 pm
Gawd mystic,
You’re setting yourself up for such a huge fall. You don’t know what you don’t know and if you knew it, you’d keep your mouth shut on the topic of race. I’ve read enough of your posts to know that you don’t know anything about what anthropology and evolutionary science and genomics’ studies, with all the new technology, has discovered in just the last 5 years. It’s the kind of stuff that’s political dynamite _only _because_ of_ people_ like you, people who won’t accept the empirical data, people who insist on pigeon-holing the individual into a class or group, in this case, a race. You’re not going to like the irrefutable data that describes and delineates those population groups. At that point, you’re going to be calling for people to talk only of individuals rather than their race. It shouldn’t matter, however. Logical, thinking people will want to use the date to improve the lives of everyone while people like you will run into the hills to ignore the findings instead of working to use the knowledge wisely.
In the past, scientists have published their papers with their data, but the main-stream press doesn’t cover it because it’s all very technical and the implications of the findings are obscured, not purposely, but obscured nonetheless, by scientific jargon; however, now there’s a HUGE, I mean terrifically HUGE, larger than even the scientists could have ever imagined a few years year ago genomics project going on in China.
Many of our top scientists have been invited by the Chinese to participate (and are).
The Chinese super-computer labs are THE hot spot for determining many DNA sequencing answers and abnormalities. The ability to sequence 1,000′s of DNA samples in days is a quantum leap towards getting information. The current sampling of 1,000 high-intelligence individuals vs. average-Iintelligence and lower intelligence persons will generate information that is nothing if not revolutionary. Their tech has been generating so much data already, they are having problems finding storage space.
We no longer need to look at gross anatomical brain structure by the use of autopsy or other radiological means to guess at what’s doing on … as ground-breaking as that was. We now have at our fingertips the ability to see and compare at the molecular level genetic differences. It’s astounding.
The out-of-African populations evolved in a very different niche than the subSaharan populations. We know much of why there is a difference. Climate accounts for much of the evolutionary differences that occur between populations that evolved in the Northern Hemisphere versus those the remained in the equatorial and sub-equatorial regions. The latter had (and still have) pathogen loads that far exceed those living elsewhere, accounting for much of the genetic differences, particularly differences in the nervous system, and further, deleterious mutations are constant in polygenous societies where old men father children as we now know that older parents (yes, not just women, as you’ve heard, but men) pass on harmful mutations.
YOU don’t know what you don’t know.
If you wish to keep abreast of even a tiny bit of this, check out Steve Hsu’s blog and take a look at his blogroll. Or go to John Hawk’s blog or a myriad of others, but don’t keep sticking your head in the sand, my man. Oh, and try “The 10,000 Year Explosion,” by anthropologist Henry Harpending and physicist-turned anthropologist and evolutionary expert Greg Cochran.
February 6th, 2013 at 7:45 pm
IGAG formerly known as OAKGLEN goes by IGAG now. IGAG is an acronym for something but I forgot what it is. Go back 50 or so threads and somewhere there you will find what it stands for.
OAKGLEN, meant IGAG, has spoken.
February 6th, 2013 at 7:46 pm
308. Please.
February 6th, 2013 at 7:47 pm
The city of Oakland better get it together to build a 65,000 seat new stadium for the Oakland Raiders! The A’s will be in San Jose and the Warriors in SF soon enough.
February 6th, 2013 at 7:47 pm
lmfao @ IHOP !!
nice one.. Reggie got us a frequent flier discount! I knew he would come through! lol
February 6th, 2013 at 7:47 pm
At this pace, well be over 1000 posts in no time, and over 3000 in 2-3 days. Is it really that hard to stick to football? Really? Is it too much to ask for you all to ignore the race baiting?
Some of you just can’t help yourselves, can you?
February 6th, 2013 at 7:48 pm
Does anybody else have a feeling of relief that the Ravens won the Super Bowl?
February 6th, 2013 at 7:49 pm
Marks Hair Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 7:29 pm
it’s actually called inside the Raiders blog
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i guess ur right
February 6th, 2013 at 7:50 pm
Beach Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 7:48 pm
Does anybody else have a feeling of relief that the Ravens won the Super Bowl?
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Yes!!! As someone that grew up around obnoxious niner fans that like to constantly clown on our Raiders, yes yes yes!
February 6th, 2013 at 7:51 pm
Beach Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 7:48 pm
Does anybody else have a feeling of relief that the Ravens won the Super Bowl?
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I know I do!!
February 6th, 2013 at 7:52 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
im out
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so soon M?R?
February 6th, 2013 at 7:52 pm
49er fans will be having nightmares of Jacoby Jones for the next 6 months.
February 6th, 2013 at 7:54 pm
KC would be dumb to give the 49ers anything for Alex Smith. Force that team to cut him. They have no other options!
February 6th, 2013 at 7:54 pm
shutdown
what are you talking about and why are you addressing me?
1. i didnt bring up race mac but plug did..talk to him
2. there is no denying the black man is the original man
3. the origin of those that classify themselves as white has never been proven
4. we only know that the first man without color appeared in the caves of the caucus mountains and they lived as cave people for around 2000 years.
5. the construct of race is a machination invented by white supremacist johan blumenbach
if you want to end racism speak to those that classify themselves as white, not black people that are subjugated by it
February 6th, 2013 at 7:55 pm
Dr_robert Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 7:49 pm
Marks Hair Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 7:29 pm
it’s actually called inside the Raiders blog
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i guess ur right
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Hey Doc, I guess I was right also…huh?
February 6th, 2013 at 7:55 pm
sorry but im not mr
i dont cross post
February 6th, 2013 at 7:56 pm
Evryone is gonna look stupid when the 9ers end up keeping smith. They do not have to let him go and for 8 mil can have 2 starters on staff.
8 mil is cheap for a starter and a back up. Quality starters I might add.
February 6th, 2013 at 7:57 pm
The Big Banana Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 7:47 pm
At this pace, well be over 1000 posts in no time, and over 3000 in 2-3 days. Is it really that hard to stick to football? Really? Is it too much to ask for you all to ignore the race baiting?
Some of you just can’t help yourselves, can you?
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talk to dr slob mac butt plug ian 85 jfb bcz and the ones that constantly bring it up
February 6th, 2013 at 7:57 pm
Dr_robert Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 6:11 pm
Da Trinity Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 6:02 pm
@ 175
No there not and if u were a true Christian you would never say that .
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what are u talking about?
are u telling me Christianity doesn’t stem from Judaism?
an Orthodox Jew told me that Jews and Muslims worship the same God.
Christianity and Islam share a historical and traditional connection. The two faiths share a common origin in the Middle East[2] and Muslims consider Christians (and Jews) to be People of the Book. Belief in the Injil (the original Gospel of Jesus) is an important part of Islamic theology, although Muslims view the current Gospels as altered. The bond extends even further, with the Islamic Prophet Muhammad instructing Muslims to defend the Christian faith from aggressors after treaties of peace have been signed, such as in the document called the Achtiname of Muhammad. Islam and Christianity share the twin commandments of the paramount importance of loving God and loving one’s neighbor, although the interpretations of these statements differ between the two traditions, and, indeed, vary between all three Abrahamic religions.
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Excellent post.
Maybe you are not as ignorant as I thought. lol
February 6th, 2013 at 7:58 pm
be easy
February 6th, 2013 at 7:59 pm
329. You are forgetting something. Alex Smith does not want to stay there.
February 6th, 2013 at 8:00 pm
#30: you are far to dumb to ever be labeled a Dr. It’s a well know FACT the human race originated in Africa. It’s also a known FACT ancient/biblical era jews were black.
I’m athiest therefore I do not believe in Jesus, however if there was such a person, it’s very likely he was black. After all the bible does describe him as a man the coloe of bronze with hair of wool.
Now to the Raiders. Stadium capacity has to be reduced because they know the team will blow. The have DA coming back therefore the team is doomed.
February 6th, 2013 at 8:00 pm
So what if he doessn’t want to stay. Can you say contract is signed already?
February 6th, 2013 at 8:00 pm
Da Trinity Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 6:21 pm
Again Robert a real Christian would never claim they worship the same God as Muslims Worship. Allah means moon God by the way. That’s who Muslims worship. Ever notice the cresent moon on all there Mosque?
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LOL
This is retarded.
Go read a book and educate yourself.
February 6th, 2013 at 8:02 pm
The term Allāh is derived from a contraction of the Arabic definite article al- “the” and ʾilāh “deity, god” to al-lāh meaning “the [sole] deity, God” (ὁ θεὸς μόνος, ho theos monos).[8] Cognates of the name “Allāh” exist in other Semitic languages, including Hebrew and Aramaic.[9] Biblical Hebrew mostly uses the plural form (but functional singular) Elohim. The corresponding Aramaic form is ʼĔlāhā ܐܠܗܐ in Biblical Aramaic and ʼAlâhâ ܐܲܠܵܗܵܐ in Syriac as used by the Assyrian Church, both meaning simply “God”.[10] In the Sikh scriptures, Guru Granth Sahib, the term Allah (Punjabi: ਅਲਹੁ) is used 37 times.[11]
February 6th, 2013 at 8:03 pm
Muslims worship the same god as Jews and Christians. Anyone who doesn’t realize all 3 religions worship one/ same god is retarded.
February 6th, 2013 at 8:04 pm
Moon god?!?!
Btw retard, Arab Christians say Allah too.
February 6th, 2013 at 8:05 pm
And no…. JC is not the son of god. Gods don’t have kids. Humans do!
February 6th, 2013 at 8:06 pm
shutdown Says:
physicist-turned anthropologist and evolutionary expert
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No idea what you’re posting about or if I agree or not.
What I do know is the guy who couldn’t cut it as a physicist and traded down to anthropology is not a source I would cite.
I am an evolutionary expert. Just ask me.
February 6th, 2013 at 8:06 pm
Beach Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 7:48 pm
Does anybody else have a feeling of relief that the Ravens won the Super Bowl?
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Oh yeah! Its awesome watching all of the entitled niners fans crawl back into their stink holes crying about the refs and how they were the ‘better team’ even though they lost to the ravens twice. They were lucky to not have lost by 30 if not for a convenient 30 min ‘reset’ they got that no one can explain. Their ‘true’ colors came out, players, coaches and fans. The Niners organization project themselves to be one of the elite ‘good guy’ sophisticated teams but in fact – they are punks – their players are punks, their coach is a punk and I hope they don’t get back for another 20 years.
At least the Raiders don’t hide behind what they are – or at least they never used to before Al died. We were what we said we were and we’ll spit on you and not say sorry. The Niners are a fraud.
I hope Seattle kicks their azz next year too.
February 6th, 2013 at 8:06 pm
Americans have the Pacific Ocean one side and the Atlantic on the other. Many people in the interior of the country don’t get a international vibe or experience.
February 6th, 2013 at 8:10 pm
Love watching you kids dig out all the specious arguments I tired of by age 20.
February 6th, 2013 at 8:11 pm
#326:
You’d be laughed out of a hard science class, even pre-grad one.
February 6th, 2013 at 8:11 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 6:21 pm
Ok Dr Robert name a noted historian who lived between 20BC and 50AD who wrote about Jesus!
here is your chance to put an Atheist to shame PROVE IT!
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Your comprehension skills are either severely lacking, or your bias against God has caused you to ignore the painfully obvious.I’ll show you why:
1)Cornelius Tacitus, lived from A.D. 55 to A.D. 120. He was a Roman historian and has been described as “the greatest historian of Rome, noted for his integrity and moral uprightness.”
Tacitus would not have risked his entire career and profession by inventing a story or attesting to an obvious lie, when so many eyewitnesses of that time period between 20CE and 70CE, whose lives would have overlapped with both Jesus and Tacitus, would have still been alive.
The truth is that Jesus and the early Christians had MANY enemies. Yet not ONE person of that Century or those that immediately followed ever asserted that Jesus didn’t exist. Yet we have a Raider blogger from the 21st century who is adamantly claiming that Jesus didn’t exist. Yeah that makes a lot of sense.(insert sarcasm please)
1)Actual physical or DNA evidence of ANYONE or ANYTHING from 2000 years ago is extremely difficult to come by. Our knowledge of historical events comes almost entirely by writers or eyewitnesses of that time PERIOD. Notice I said time PERIOD, not exact day, month or year.
If you dismiss what secular writers and historians write about Jesus, then you must also dismiss Greek historian Herodotus, as well as the written history about Julius Caeser, Charlemagne, and almost any other historical figure.
Continue with your rant. But you make little sense. If you EQUALLY applied your criteria for accepting the authenticity of Jesus to every other historical figure, then history as we know it today, wouldn’t even exist.
February 6th, 2013 at 8:14 pm
Abrahamic religions (Islam, Judaism, and Christianity) are monotheistic religions, so it makes zero sense for a god to have a son because that means there are 2 gods.
February 6th, 2013 at 8:14 pm
Many people in the interior of the country don’t get a international vibe or experience.
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I would say a lot of that is by choice.
How about South Carolina? International “vibe” there?
February 6th, 2013 at 8:14 pm
beach Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 7:47 pm
The city of Oakland better get it together to build a 65,000 seat new stadium for the Oakland Raiders! The A’s will be in San Jose and the Warriors in SF soon enough.
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I always get a kick out of people who are clearly NOT from Oakland and have no clue what is going on here, or in the Bay Area as a whole, speaking on what will happen to Oakland’s teams. Beach you have no clue what is going on in the Bay Area.
February 6th, 2013 at 8:15 pm
It is believed in many circles, whites/caucasians are the result of african albinos mixing with neanderthals.
http://www.stewartsynopsis.com/chapter_7.htm
February 6th, 2013 at 8:16 pm
So my old season tickets on section 354 would have only cost $260, and now I would be moved?
Man, what a steal!!!!
I did like the views of the Bay from Mt. Davis during night games though, although primetime games are a little fewer and farther between when you are losing 10 games a year.
February 6th, 2013 at 8:17 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 8:06 pm
shutdown Says:
physicist-turned anthropologist and evolutionary expert
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Actually, he’s still very much a physicist; his specialty is optics. Has done a lot of defense work.
He’d appreciate your making fun of anthropologists–he does that all the time himself as anthropology has a very sketchy past.
Look up his work and that of his other collaborator, Paul Ewald, one of the world’s most respected evolutionary biologists.
BTW, Cochran and Harpending have a fairly new blog called “West Hunter” –already has a lot of great reading put up. Check it out.
February 6th, 2013 at 8:17 pm
beach Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 7:54 pm
KC would be dumb to give the 49ers anything for Alex Smith. Force that team to cut him. They have no other options!
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I would love the queefs to give a high pick and pick up that contract – hopefully buy the hype and give a 2nd/3rd rounder for him. We all know alex smith sucks – he was terrible for the first 6 years of his career – his success was only the result of the niners going to the running game – playing baller defense and going extra conservative – plus their division fell apart in 2011 so they were an illusion.
Put Smith on the Queefs and its *feeding time* for the Raiders !! Great if it happens – they get stuck with a pud and his contract, plus Geno Smith likely won’t be picked #1 and we can use him for trade bait to trade down and get a bounty. I’m hoping for 4 picks in 1st 3 rounds! Starters at RT, CB, DT/NT, DE/OLB (not necessarily in that order).
Hope we play them early.
February 6th, 2013 at 8:17 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 8:14 pm
Many people in the interior of the country don’t get a international vibe or experience.
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I would say a lot of that is by choice.
How about South Carolina? International “vibe” there?
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You People are so cocksure of what you don’t know.
February 6th, 2013 at 8:19 pm
BTW, it was in their book “The 10,000 Year Explosion” that Cochran and Harpending posited that some human populations were part Neandertal and that the subSaharan groups would be zero % such.
A couple of years later the DNA sequencing proved it.
February 6th, 2013 at 8:19 pm
You People are so cocksure of what you don’t know.
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Curious, how many states in your life have you filed a tax return in?
February 6th, 2013 at 8:22 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 8:19 pm
You People are so cocksure of what you don’t know.
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Curious, how many states in your life have you filed a tax return in?
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How many countries do you pay property taxes in? But that’s beside the point isn’t it?
February 6th, 2013 at 8:23 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 7:54 pm
shutdown
what are you talking about and why are you addressing me?
1. i didnt bring up race mac but plug did..talk to him
2. there is no denying the black man is the original man
3. the origin of those that classify themselves as white has never been proven
4. we only know that the first man without color appeared in the caves of the caucus mountains and they lived as cave people for around 2000 years.
5. the construct of race is a machination invented by white supremacist johan blumenbach
if you want to end racism speak to those that classify themselves as white, not black people that are subjugated by it
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1) u bring up race every day. denying it just shows what a liar u are.
2) i don’t really care, but there is no proof whatsoever that the first man was black. do u know the difference between facts and theories? scientists have taken facts and come up with theories based on those facts. but the information is far from complete.
3) the origin of all colors has never been proven.
4) caucasians aren’t white, and they don’t “lack color”. their pigmentation is just light. this is why ur theories are so stupid. their based on fallacies (colors of people).
5) so which is dummy? first u talk about the origins of races, but then u say there isn’t such a thing cuz it was made up.
ur as racist as any white man.
February 6th, 2013 at 8:23 pm
Godeep Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 7:55 pm
Dr_robert Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 7:49 pm
Marks Hair Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 7:29 pm
it’s actually called inside the Raiders blog
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i guess ur right
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Hey Doc, I guess I was right also…huh?
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no, u were wrong.
February 6th, 2013 at 8:24 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 7:55 pm
sorry but im not mr
i dont cross post
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nobody is fooled.
February 6th, 2013 at 8:24 pm
How many countries do you pay property taxes in? But that’s beside the point isn’t it?
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I would say working in a place gives you a greater understanding of the land, more so than investing in property.
You made a blanket statemen on the “middle of the country” yet you never lived there.
February 6th, 2013 at 8:24 pm
Raider O Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 7:57 pm
Dr_robert Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 6:11 pm
Da Trinity Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 6:02 pm
@ 175
No there not and if u were a true Christian you would never say that .
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what are u talking about?
are u telling me Christianity doesn’t stem from Judaism?
an Orthodox Jew told me that Jews and Muslims worship the same God.
Christianity and Islam share a historical and traditional connection. The two faiths share a common origin in the Middle East[2] and Muslims consider Christians (and Jews) to be People of the Book. Belief in the Injil (the original Gospel of Jesus) is an important part of Islamic theology, although Muslims view the current Gospels as altered. The bond extends even further, with the Islamic Prophet Muhammad instructing Muslims to defend the Christian faith from aggressors after treaties of peace have been signed, such as in the document called the Achtiname of Muhammad. Islam and Christianity share the twin commandments of the paramount importance of loving God and loving one’s neighbor, although the interpretations of these statements differ between the two traditions, and, indeed, vary between all three Abrahamic religions.
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Excellent post.
Maybe you are not as ignorant as I thought. lol
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maybe ur not as ignorant as i thought.
February 6th, 2013 at 8:24 pm
In Europe for example, if you live there, a 2-4 hr drive and you’re in a different country. People aren’t so self-righteous.
As they say “ignorance is bliss”
February 6th, 2013 at 8:25 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 7:58 pm
be easy
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who? the white children whose heads u want to chop off?
and we’re the racists?
February 6th, 2013 at 8:26 pm
Dr_robert Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 8:23 pm
Godeep Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 7:55 pm
Dr_robert Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 7:49 pm
Marks Hair Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 7:29 pm
it’s actually called inside the Raiders blog
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i guess ur right
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Hey Doc, I guess I was right also…huh?
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no, u were wrong.
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How??? It is a blog!!!!
February 6th, 2013 at 8:27 pm
Derek Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 8:00 pm
#30: you are far to dumb to ever be labeled a Dr. It’s a well know FACT the human race originated in Africa. It’s also a known FACT ancient/biblical era jews were black.
I’m athiest therefore I do not believe in Jesus, however if there was such a person, it’s very likely he was black. After all the bible does describe him as a man the coloe of bronze with hair of wool.
Now to the Raiders. Stadium capacity has to be reduced because they know the team will blow. The have DA coming back therefore the team is doomed.
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not FACTS. theories. big difference.
bronze with hair of wool sounds middle eastern. north african.
u are far too stupid to be called derek. u should be called missdick. which is who u are.
February 6th, 2013 at 8:27 pm
Dr, you ever been outside the USA?
February 6th, 2013 at 8:29 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 8:06 pm
Americans have the Pacific Ocean one side and the Atlantic on the other. Many people in the interior of the country don’t get a international vibe or experience.
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our regions are as different as many countries. northeast, southeast, mid-atlantic, midwest, deep south, plains, southwest, far west, northwest. very different. but we move freely and count ourselves as one country.
February 6th, 2013 at 8:30 pm
Raiders can carry over $4.5 million dollars from last years cap, for all those up in arms we didn’t sign anyone midseason to use the cap space.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/06/team-by-team-available-cap-adjustments-for-2013/
February 6th, 2013 at 8:30 pm
Raider O Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 8:05 pm
And no…. JC is not the son of god. Gods don’t have kids. Humans do!
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we are ALL His children. whether u choose to believe it or not.
February 6th, 2013 at 8:31 pm
Shutdown Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 8:11 pm
#326:
You’d be laughed out of a hard science class, even pre-grad one.
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missdick has never been to college. his “knowledge” comes from street corner black-nation-ism, and wikipedia. plus, some really confused uncles.
February 6th, 2013 at 8:31 pm
Teams don’t have to carry it over, if they don’t want to spend the money.
That will be interesting to see if we pass on carrying over the $4.5 million.
February 6th, 2013 at 8:33 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 8:11 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 6:21 pm
Ok Dr Robert name a noted historian who lived between 20BC and 50AD who wrote about Jesus!
here is your chance to put an Atheist to shame PROVE IT!
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S&B666-
Your comprehension skills are either severely lacking, or your bias against God has caused you to ignore the painfully obvious.I’ll show you why:
1)Cornelius Tacitus, lived from A.D. 55 to A.D. 120. He was a Roman historian and has been described as “the greatest historian of Rome, noted for his integrity and moral uprightness.”
Tacitus would not have risked his entire career and profession by inventing a story or attesting to an obvious lie, when so many eyewitnesses of that time period between 20CE and 70CE, whose lives would have overlapped with both Jesus and Tacitus, would have still been alive.
The truth is that Jesus and the early Christians had MANY enemies. Yet not ONE person of that Century or those that immediately followed ever asserted that Jesus didn’t exist. Yet we have a Raider blogger from the 21st century who is adamantly claiming that Jesus didn’t exist. Yeah that makes a lot of sense.(insert sarcasm please)
1)Actual physical or DNA evidence of ANYONE or ANYTHING from 2000 years ago is extremely difficult to come by. Our knowledge of historical events comes almost entirely by writers or eyewitnesses of that time PERIOD. Notice I said time PERIOD, not exact day, month or year.
If you dismiss what secular writers and historians write about Jesus, then you must also dismiss Greek historian Herodotus, as well as the written history about Julius Caeser, Charlemagne, and almost any other historical figure.
Continue with your rant. But you make little sense. If you EQUALLY applied your criteria for accepting the authenticity of Jesus to every other historical figure, then history as we know it today, wouldn’t even exist.
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well done sir.
February 6th, 2013 at 8:34 pm
Raider O Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 8:14 pm
Abrahamic religions (Islam, Judaism, and Christianity) are monotheistic religions, so it makes zero sense for a god to have a son because that means there are 2 gods.
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Jesus was the Son of God. the Messiah. a complicated notion. but we are all His children.
February 6th, 2013 at 8:34 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 8:30 pm
Raiders can carry over $4.5 million dollars from last years cap, for all those up in arms we didn’t sign anyone midseason to use the cap space.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/06/team-by-team-available-cap-adjustments-for-2013/
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That will come def come in handy. I have read we are approx 4.5 mill over the cap now and still have to get under the cap before March 10 – I wonder if that offset is included in our current cap number or not?
February 6th, 2013 at 8:35 pm
Raider O Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 8:14 pm
Abrahamic religions (Islam, Judaism, and Christianity) are monotheistic religions, so it makes zero sense for a god to have a son because that means there are 2 gods.
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if a king has a child, are there two kings?
February 6th, 2013 at 8:36 pm
I remember I was in Switzerland about 10-15 yrs ago. I had no idea it was MLK jr birthday, until we rode by Lake Zurich. Man the people with placards, signs, booths celebrating him was a eye-openor. Weather was bad too.
February 6th, 2013 at 8:36 pm
Derek Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 8:15 pm
It is believed in many circles, whites/caucasians are the result of african albinos mixing with neanderthals.
http://www.stewartsynopsis.com/chapter_7.htm
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LOL! proof u are missdick.
many circles? yeah right. name a legit one. ur a joke.
February 6th, 2013 at 8:38 pm
Godeep Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 8:26 pm
Dr_robert Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 8:23 pm
Godeep Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 7:55 pm
Dr_robert Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 7:49 pm
Marks Hair Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 7:29 pm
it’s actually called inside the Raiders blog
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i guess ur right
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Hey Doc, I guess I was right also…huh?
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no, u were wrong.
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How??? It is a blog!!!!
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i was kidding.
February 6th, 2013 at 8:40 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 8:27 pm
Dr, you ever been outside the USA?
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actually no. but i watch a lot of foreign movies.
February 6th, 2013 at 8:41 pm
Comparing gods to kings?!?!
LOL
A king’s son is called a prince and he becomes a king after his father dies.
Is JC going to become the one and only god after his father dies?
February 6th, 2013 at 8:42 pm
Derek Says:
It is believed in many circles, whites/caucasians are the result of african albinos mixing with neanderthals.
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I tried. She said no.
February 6th, 2013 at 8:42 pm
Dr_robert Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 8:40 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 8:27 pm
Dr, you ever been outside the USA?
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actually no. but i watch a lot of foreign movies.
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Gives you hella perspective. I think you need to widen yours.
February 6th, 2013 at 8:45 pm
There is a reason why Jews and Muslims don’t believe JC is the son of god. It’s called Monotheism for a reason.
One God, no kids, no wife, no cousins, no brothers/ sisters, no kids, or parents.
February 6th, 2013 at 8:45 pm
KK pulling out the International card. That’s not working with me, kk. Ports of call mean little, swabbie.
February 6th, 2013 at 8:50 pm
This stadium thing seems like kind of big deal, yet gets passed over for some good ‘ol race driven biblical talk.
Sigh……the offseason
February 6th, 2013 at 8:51 pm
Raider O Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 8:45 pm
There is a reason why Jews and Muslims don’t believe JC is the son of god. It’s called Monotheism for a reason.
One God, no kids, no wife, no cousins, no brothers/ sisters, no kids, or parents.
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the Messiah.
February 6th, 2013 at 8:53 pm
JC was a man…. Get over it.
There is only one God, and doesn’t have a wife/ baby mama, kids, or parents.
February 6th, 2013 at 8:54 pm
FIRE REGGIE NOW.
February 6th, 2013 at 8:54 pm
Jeez, outted your self there.
February 6th, 2013 at 8:55 pm
Like that ‘jeez’ in there?
February 6th, 2013 at 8:55 pm
Christianity was influenced by Romans and Europeans. Son of a god?! Adam, Abraham, Moses, etc…. are all men except JC… He is the son of god.
You people are funny.,
February 6th, 2013 at 8:57 pm
Raider O Says:
There is only one God, and doesn’t have a wife/ baby mama, kids, or parents.
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Link?
February 6th, 2013 at 8:57 pm
Raider O Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 8:53 pm
JC was a man…. Get over it.
There is only one God, and doesn’t have a wife/ baby mama, kids, or parents.
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yeah. He was a man. the Messiah.
A messiah is a saviour or liberator of a people in the Abrahamic religions.
In the Hebrew Bible a messiah (or mashiach) is a king or High Priest traditionally anointed with holy anointing oil.[1] However, messiahs were not exclusively Jewish kings, as the Hebrew Bible refers to Cyrus the Great, king of Persia, as a messiah, for his decree to rebuild the Jerusalem Temple. The Jewish messiah is a leader anointed by God, physically descended from the Davidic line, who will rule the united tribes of Israel[2] and herald the Messianic Age[3] of global peace also known as the World to Come.
The translation of the Hebrew word Mašíaḥ as Χριστός (Khristós) in the Greek Septuagint[4] became the accepted Christian designation and title of Jesus of Nazareth. Christians believe that prophecies in the Hebrew Bible (especially Isaiah) refer to a spiritual savior and believe Jesus to be that Messiah (Christ).
Islamic tradition holds that Jesus, the son of Mary, was the promised Prophet and Masih (Messiah) sent to the Israelites, and that he will again return to Earth at the end of times, along with the Mahdi, and they will defeat Masih ad-Dajjal, the “false Messiah” or Antichrist.[5]
February 6th, 2013 at 8:57 pm
Some one had to do it.
February 6th, 2013 at 8:57 pm
Raider O Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 8:55 pm
Christianity was influenced by Romans and Europeans. Son of a god?! Adam, Abraham, Moses, etc…. are all men except JC… He is the son of god.
You people are funny.,
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So who was Adam’s mother? Isn’t he called a son of God also? I’ll wait…
February 6th, 2013 at 8:58 pm
Raider O Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 8:55 pm
Christianity was influenced by Romans and Europeans. Son of a god?! Adam, Abraham, Moses, etc…. are all men except JC… He is the son of god.
You people are funny.,
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why so angry when talking religion? are u getting ready to start a holy war?
February 6th, 2013 at 8:59 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 8:57 pm
Raider O Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 8:55 pm
Christianity was influenced by Romans and Europeans. Son of a god?! Adam, Abraham, Moses, etc…. are all men except JC… He is the son of god.
You people are funny.,
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So who was Adam’s mother? Isn’t he called a son of God also? I’ll wait…
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the “smart” atheists think it was primordial ooze. this is what makes sense to them.
February 6th, 2013 at 9:00 pm
God can do what He wants.
February 6th, 2013 at 9:01 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 8:57 pm
Raider O Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 8:55 pm
Christianity was influenced by Romans and Europeans. Son of a god?! Adam, Abraham, Moses, etc…. are all men except JC… He is the son of god.
You people are funny.,
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So who was Adam’s mother? Isn’t he called a son of God also? I’ll wait…
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God doesn’t need a woman to create humans. He is god!! Adam had a mother?
You people are funny. Adam was the 1st man, but that doesn’t make him the son of god.
February 6th, 2013 at 9:01 pm
I kinda wish I was arguing with some one in here so I could know who I was having this discourse with. Know what I mean, M?
February 6th, 2013 at 9:03 pm
Raider O Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 9:01 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 8:57 pm
Raider O Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 8:55 pm
Christianity was influenced by Romans and Europeans. Son of a god?! Adam, Abraham, Moses, etc…. are all men except JC… He is the son of god.
You people are funny.,
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So who was Adam’s mother? Isn’t he called a son of God also? I’ll wait…
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
God doesn’t need a woman to create humans. He is god!! Adam had a mother?
You people are funny. Adam was the 1st man, but that doesn’t make him the son of god.
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so God could make a Son too. send Him to the world to teach the way.
can’t argue with Jesus’ teachings.
February 6th, 2013 at 9:03 pm
I had an egg once. Got a chicken.
February 6th, 2013 at 9:03 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 9:01 pm
I kinda wish I was arguing with some one in here so I could know who I was having this discourse with. Know what I mean, M?
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well, if u want, u can accuse me of being MR and/or missdick.
February 6th, 2013 at 9:04 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 9:03 pm
I had an egg once. Got a chicken.
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oh really? where did the egg come from then?
are u denying that the chicken came before the egg?
you “eggists” are morons.
(feel better?)
February 6th, 2013 at 9:05 pm
I love JC and his teachings. I believe in JC, but I don’t believe he is the son of god.
February 6th, 2013 at 9:05 pm
dr_robert Says:
can’t argue with Jesus’ teachings.
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Can’t argue with Mistic,either. Oh, right.
February 6th, 2013 at 9:07 pm
I really did like him more than Gradkowski. But I liked the Bruce, too.
February 6th, 2013 at 9:08 pm
Rob is right. God doesn’t need a mother to create humans like Adam (1st man) and JC (Miracle baby). He is GOD!
February 6th, 2013 at 9:10 pm
dr_robert Says:
I had an egg once. Got a chicken.
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oh really? where did the egg come from then?
are u denying that the chicken came before the egg?
you “eggists” are morons.
(feel better?)
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I had a chicken once. Got an egg.
February 6th, 2013 at 9:11 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 9:07 pm
I really did like him more than Gradkowski. But I liked the Bruce, too.
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i thought campbell was ok. nothing special but not bad.
i liked gradkowski mainly cuz he gave us some hope. a limited qb but far better than russell.
February 6th, 2013 at 9:12 pm
Adam was created without a mother or father, and JC was a miracle (Virgin/ pure mother).
February 6th, 2013 at 9:12 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 9:10 pm
dr_robert Says:
I had an egg once. Got a chicken.
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oh really? where did the egg come from then?
are u denying that the chicken came before the egg?
you “eggists” are morons.
(feel better?)
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I had a chicken once. Got an egg.
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exactly. but wait. what? where did the chicken com…..
February 6th, 2013 at 9:12 pm
Too many chickens and not enough eggs. Guiennas all over as are their eggs.
February 6th, 2013 at 9:12 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 9:10 pm
dr_robert Says:
I had an egg once. Got a chicken.
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oh really? where did the egg come from then?
are u denying that the chicken came before the egg?
you “eggists” are morons.
(feel better?)
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I had a chicken once. Got an egg.
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yeah, but white eggs are the best.
February 6th, 2013 at 9:13 pm
I like brown eggs.
If you are not brown, you are a clown.
February 6th, 2013 at 9:15 pm
Father Guido Sarducci:
To be made a saint in-a the catholic church, you have to have-a four miracles. That’s-a the rules, you know. It’s-a always been that-a. Four miracles, and-a to prove it. Well, this-a Mother Seton-now they could only prove-a three miracles. But the Pope-he just waved the fourth one. He just waved it! And do you know why? It’s-a because she was American. It’s all-a politics. We got-a some Italian-a people, they got-a forty, fifty, sixty miracles to their name. They can’t-a get in just cause they say there’s already too many Italian saints, and this woman comes along with-a three lousy miracles. I understand that-a two of them was-a card tricks. Next thing you know, they’re gonna be making Kreskin a saint. Saint Kreskin-they’ll probably call him. It’s a good one.
February 6th, 2013 at 9:15 pm
From a practical standpoint, on a desert island, I would take twenty chickens over twenty eggs every time.
February 6th, 2013 at 9:16 pm
there aren’t many black eggs. those are typically referred to as “bad eggs”.
February 6th, 2013 at 9:18 pm
joe flacco, u just won the super bowl. what are u going to do next?
“i’m fu@king going to disney world!”
February 6th, 2013 at 9:19 pm
I got the greatest hodgepodge of chickens laying and some are almost white. Even after you clean the chickensht off of them. You can’t have any. Gabby, O gets none of my eggs.
February 6th, 2013 at 9:22 pm
joe flacco, u just won the super bowl. what are u going to do next?
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I’m going to purvis’s house for an omelet.
February 6th, 2013 at 9:22 pm
And please don’t think I have something against JC or Christianity. I believe in JC and Christianity, but I don’t believe he is the son of god.
I’m done talking about religion. I usually don’t talk about religion here, but you people started it, and I couldn’t help myself today.
February 6th, 2013 at 9:24 pm
Llama man,
What makes you think I want your White eggs?
Brown eggs are better. lol
February 6th, 2013 at 9:25 pm
The Holy Trinity is an avatar/aspect thing, where a deity can be manifest simultaneously in multiple forms, like Krishna.
And yes, we all originated in Africa, though there was definitely some inter-species mixing with Neanderthals as modern humans fled the dark continent.
The egg came before the chicken because dinosaurs laid eggs and they existed long before their descendants roamed the earth.
Now back to football, please.
February 6th, 2013 at 9:26 pm
Reggie, please cut somebody;
February 6th, 2013 at 9:29 pm
I nominate Tommy Kelly
February 6th, 2013 at 9:30 pm
I hear Seymour would be released by Friday?
February 6th, 2013 at 9:33 pm
With Seymour gone, Kelly maybe.
Star becomes more of a need.
February 6th, 2013 at 9:34 pm
Raider O Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 9:22 pm
And please don’t think I have something against JC or Christianity. I believe in JC and Christianity, but I don’t believe he is the son of god.
I’m done talking about religion. I usually don’t talk about religion here, but you people started it, and I couldn’t help myself today.
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That is your belief and you are entitled to it…
But you do realize that is is possible even right now, for a woman who is a “virgin” meaning that she has not engaged in carnal relations or engaged in copulation with a man with a man, to become pregnant.
You do know that don’t you? It’s called science! The bible doesn’t go into detail about exactly what scientific technique that God used to impregnate Mary. It just said that she didn’t lay down with a man in order to get pregnant.
So sometimes the more we try to prove that man is smarter than the Creator, the more ignorant we actually prove ourselves to be.
February 6th, 2013 at 9:39 pm
Raider O Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 9:22 pm
And please don’t think I have something against JC or Christianity. I believe in JC and Christianity, but I don’t believe he is the son of god.
I’m done talking about religion. I usually don’t talk about religion here, but you people started it, and I couldn’t help myself today.
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what do u mean “you people”?
February 6th, 2013 at 9:41 pm
Papertiger418 Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 9:25 pm
The Holy Trinity is an avatar/aspect thing, where a deity can be manifest simultaneously in multiple forms, like Krishna.
And yes, we all originated in Africa, though there was definitely some inter-species mixing with Neanderthals as modern humans fled the dark continent.
The egg came before the chicken because dinosaurs laid eggs and they existed long before their descendants roamed the earth.
Now back to football, please.
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dinosaurs never existed.
February 6th, 2013 at 9:42 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 9:34 pm
Raider O Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 9:22 pm
And please don’t think I have something against JC or Christianity. I believe in JC and Christianity, but I don’t believe he is the son of god.
I’m done talking about religion. I usually don’t talk about religion here, but you people started it, and I couldn’t help myself today.
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That is your belief and you are entitled to it…
But you do realize that is is possible even right now, for a woman who is a “virgin” meaning that she has not engaged in carnal relations or engaged in copulation with a man with a man, to become pregnant.
You do know that don’t you? It’s called science! The bible doesn’t go into detail about exactly what scientific technique that God used to impregnate Mary. It just said that she didn’t lay down with a man in order to get pregnant.
So sometimes the more we try to prove that man is smarter than the Creator, the more ignorant we actually prove ourselves to be.
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that’s how annikan skywalker was born too.
February 6th, 2013 at 9:42 pm
Dr_robert Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 9:41 pm
Papertiger418 Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 9:25 pm
The Holy Trinity is an avatar/aspect thing, where a deity can be manifest simultaneously in multiple forms, like Krishna.
And yes, we all originated in Africa, though there was definitely some inter-species mixing with Neanderthals as modern humans fled the dark continent.
The egg came before the chicken because dinosaurs laid eggs and they existed long before their descendants roamed the earth.
Now back to football, please.
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dinosaurs never existed.
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ROFL
February 6th, 2013 at 9:43 pm
shields, talib, woodson, jennings, wallace, bowe, bradshaw, ray rice, rucker, smith….the list goes on. huge FA year
if we go 3-4 wheeler is outside and burris is inside. i like curry inside maybe too if he pans out in camp. can be a beast. gaither did well down the stretch too. giants released some good LB/DE yesterday. could come at a reasonable price. cant wait for releases in the coming weeks to see where we are really headed
February 6th, 2013 at 9:44 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 9:34 pm
Raider O Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 9:22 pm
And please don’t think I have something against JC or Christianity. I believe in JC and Christianity, but I don’t believe he is the son of god.
I’m done talking about religion. I usually don’t talk about religion here, but you people started it, and I couldn’t help myself today.
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That is your belief and you are entitled to it…
But you do realize that is is possible even right now, for a woman who is a “virgin” meaning that she has not engaged in carnal relations or engaged in copulation with a man with a man, to become pregnant.
You do know that don’t you? It’s called science! The bible doesn’t go into detail about exactly what scientific technique that God used to impregnate Mary. It just said that she didn’t lay down with a man in order to get pregnant.
So sometimes the more we try to prove that man is smarter than the Creator, the more ignorant we actually prove ourselves to be.
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science is just man’s way of trying to figure out how God did it. it makes me laugh when people think they’re so smart cuz they think they know a few things, when they can’t even explain time or space, or infinity, or how anything really happened.
February 6th, 2013 at 9:45 pm
proof of God is all around us everyday. the miracle of a child. watch a child grow and become a person with their own personality and it boggles the mind.
i’m watching the ocean right now. breathtaking when u think of it’s enormity, and all that goes on on there, and all we really don’t know.
February 6th, 2013 at 9:45 pm
in my opinion we do not need star at #3 with bilikudi here. too many other needs
February 6th, 2013 at 9:53 pm
Irjonny Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 9:45 pm
in my opinion we do not need star at #3 with bilikudi here. too many other needs
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Lose Seymour & Kelly, then you have your #1 need, a DT.
February 6th, 2013 at 9:53 pm
Yes, we need to keep Bryant and Wheeler, trade back and draft BPA (preferably o-line with 1st pick but whatever), force DHB to restructure, and run DMAC into the ground during his contract year. Also, RoMac needs to be forcibly ejected from the premises on June 1st.
That would be a nice start.
February 6th, 2013 at 9:54 pm
The believer has the responsibility to prove there is a god.
February 6th, 2013 at 9:55 pm
Desmondnt Brynant played waaaaaay more DT than Seymour did last year, so losing Seymour is akin to losing a backup DT.
Not much playing time to replace.
February 6th, 2013 at 9:59 pm
Still laughing about KK not knowing it was MLK’s birthday…dumba$$.
February 6th, 2013 at 10:02 pm
Bryant & Bikulidi at DT?
Another faith based argument?
February 6th, 2013 at 10:04 pm
Yo, P-man, Doc, R-O, P-tiger, DJJ, and everyone else! I’ve been following all the posts of the previous report and the ones P-man and others led us to as faster reloads. Props to them for doing so!
What a freakin’ mess. So, we’re back to reading about racism. Geez.
The only really interesting thing to come of the 4000+ posts is IGAG’s news about the IHOP franchise. But can we be sure it’s the real IGAG? He hasn’t signed many of his newest posts. And IGAG said it’s only him posting when he signs his post.
Does this mean the Raideretts will be wearing only strategically placed pancakes?! If so, I hope they’re the mini-cakes.
And, of course, there hasn’t been a sighting from Beeech.
February 6th, 2013 at 10:04 pm
Closing off Mt. Davis? Hmm…this could turn out to be quite the strategy. Drum up some interest by making tickets harder to come by. Think about it…when tickets are harder to come by, people actually become more interested. They don’t want to miss out. When they are in abundance, meh, I can go to the game anytime and others aren’t going so I’m not going either. People are sheep.
February 6th, 2013 at 10:04 pm
*Raiderettes
February 6th, 2013 at 10:04 pm
So, is Cork still in the New Orleans drunk tank.
Somebody should throw his bail.
On second thought, why bother?
February 6th, 2013 at 10:06 pm
Somebody who eats blocks like Star would benefit Bryant, Shaunessy, Houston and blitzer’s.
February 6th, 2013 at 10:07 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 9:55 pm
Desmondnt Brynant played waaaaaay more DT than Seymour did last year, so losing Seymour is akin to losing a backup DT.
Not much playing time to replace.
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Or practice time for that matter.
Seymour was a gentleman DT.
February 6th, 2013 at 10:09 pm
As for Dick Seymour, the defense played better without him. Look at how the defense finished last year, all without Seymour. Time to move on from this guy. Nothing more to see. Besides, he’s always ailing.
February 6th, 2013 at 10:09 pm
Hey, Scourge!
What do you think about CDE’s GM manifesto on post #284?
I could live with most of those choices, though it would suck to lose SeaBass.
February 6th, 2013 at 10:15 pm
Bigsnow81 Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 9:54 pm
The believer has the responsibility to prove there is a god.
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where did the world come from? why is there so much of a connection and evidence of a plan, in a supposed chaotic world?
the proof is obvious. seasons, life, nature, etc. it’s all there.
February 6th, 2013 at 10:16 pm
Scourge Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 10:04 pm
Yo, P-man, Doc, R-O, P-tiger, DJJ, and everyone else! I’ve been following all the posts of the previous report and the ones P-man and others led us to as faster reloads. Props to them for doing so!
What a freakin’ mess. So, we’re back to reading about racism. Geez.
The only really interesting thing to come of the 4000+ posts is IGAG’s news about the IHOP franchise. But can we be sure it’s the real IGAG? He hasn’t signed many of his newest posts. And IGAG said it’s only him posting when he signs his post.
Does this mean the Raideretts will be wearing only strategically placed pancakes?! If so, I hope they’re the mini-cakes.
And, of course, there hasn’t been a sighting from Beeech.
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i like their muffins.
February 6th, 2013 at 10:16 pm
beech is probably in jail again.
February 6th, 2013 at 10:18 pm
Derek Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 8:15 pm
It is believed in many circles, whites/caucasians are the result of african albinos mixing with neanderthals.
http://www.stewartsynopsis.com/chapter_7.htm
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“Look at those cavemen go!”
February 6th, 2013 at 10:24 pm
P-Tiger, I could go with a lot (not all0 of what CDE posted. I might be be more benevolent with respect to A. Carter, C. Carlisle and a few others, but not too benevolent. If they had a decent season, all things considered, a bit more than vet minimum might be appropriate. I don’t think I’d get rid of Seabass. I’d like to see Lechler stay but only at a salary that is Raider-friendly. Mebbe we can get a group rate for Seabass, Lechler, and Condo!
February 6th, 2013 at 10:32 pm
Tiger, I also like CDE’s comments on Parsons and Shonasty. I also value Goodson and Hagen may be a tad more than CDE does. Ceterus paribus, I can live with the manifesto.
February 6th, 2013 at 10:33 pm
*Ceteris (I think).
February 6th, 2013 at 10:35 pm
Wow opening day is going to be beautiful in Oakland, with an infield dirt and pitching mound in the middle of the field and tarp over the seats!
February 6th, 2013 at 10:37 pm
Doc, you need to increase your heckling of Mistic1 three-fold. I doubt you can do it though!
Sorry, Doc, just a little fun with ya!
February 6th, 2013 at 10:40 pm
Scourge Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 10:37 pm
Doc, you need to increase your heckling of Mistic1 three-fold. I doubt you can do it though!
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Why, oh why do you find the need to encourage this? Most of us lament skipping over their long diatribes just to pick out some worthwhile football-related posts and here you are asking for more. Unreal.
February 6th, 2013 at 10:41 pm
dr_robert Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 9:45 pm
proof of God is all around us everyday. the miracle of a child. watch a child grow and become a person with their own personality and it boggles the mind.
i’m watching the ocean right now. breathtaking when u think of it’s enormity, and all that goes on on there, and all we really don’t know
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They don’t have oceans in Sacramento, or Sunnyvale??
and at 9:45 at night, you’re pretty much watching pitch black dark, no?
February 6th, 2013 at 10:42 pm
Read the writing on the wall; the Reggieme is already trying to warn folks:
The product on the field is not going to attract alot of fan support.
In the few years to come Oakland may be without ANY pro-sports franchises. The City and County have better move fast if they want to keep the Raiders. It may be too late.
One thing is for sure City of Oakland has done squat to make the O.CO successful. Every time I go to the O.CO, I have saved up $ and I am ready to spend. Out side of the Coliseum there id NOTHING for me to spend on.
I get on the BART
February 6th, 2013 at 10:45 pm
Lynn From Snot Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 10:41 pm
dr_robert Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 9:45 pm
proof of God is all around us everyday. the miracle of a child. watch a child grow and become a person with their own personality and it boggles the mind.
i’m watching the ocean right now. breathtaking when u think of it’s enormity, and all that goes on on there, and all we really don’t know
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They don’t have oceans in Sacramento, or Sunnyvale??
and at 9:45 at night, you’re pretty much watching pitch black dark, no?
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well, “never-before-seen” poster who apparently thanks i might be MR but also knows me well enuff to know i live in sunnyvale, i am spending the week on the monterey bay coast in a beach house.
February 6th, 2013 at 10:46 pm
Raider O, do some research on Muslims.
And again Christians-Jews do not worship the same God as Muslims.
Muslims and Jews both come from Abraham but that doesn’t mean they believe the same thing.
February 6th, 2013 at 10:46 pm
One thing is for sure City of Oakland has done squat to make the O.CO successful. Every time I go to the O.CO, I have saved up $ and I am ready to spend. Out side of the Coliseum there id NOTHING for me to spend on.
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We need Coliseum City in a bad way. I think a lot of folks are in your boat. They are ready to drop dough on good food and cool things but it’s nowhere to be found. Many of us just want to have a good time and are ready to spend the money.
February 6th, 2013 at 10:46 pm
Scourge,
I’ve always liked Hagan too, and will always be sympathetic to DHB (though not at $10million) but our receiving corps needs to be shaken up. I don’t care if it’s Greg Jennings or Danny Amendola, we need some fresh meat.
As for Shonasty, might be he needed more time to recover from his injury. Guy just doesn’t look the same anymore.
February 6th, 2013 at 10:47 pm
lynn from snot–why the crossposting cowardice?
February 6th, 2013 at 10:48 pm
Reality,
Sorry, the original post had some lines that didn’t come through the first time! It should have read (sans asterisks)…
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Doc, you need to increase your heckling of Mistic1 three-fold. I doubt you can do it though!
Sorry, Doc, just a little fun with ya!
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February 6th, 2013 at 10:48 pm
Beech is in jail with Klas.
February 6th, 2013 at 10:50 pm
as for football:
i think tommy kelly is appreciated more by the org than by the fans. same with branch.
i can carlisle, barnes, dhb, seymour, green beanie mcdunce, and huff being gone though.
February 6th, 2013 at 10:50 pm
D*mmit…third try…
[engage reverse psychology]
Doc, you need to increase your heckling of Mistic1 three-fold. I doubt you can do it though!
Sorry, Doc, just a little fun with ya!
[disengage reverse psychology]
February 6th, 2013 at 10:50 pm
i liked klas. he was funny.
February 6th, 2013 at 10:51 pm
Me too. Klas had a good run. He was well liked by all.
February 6th, 2013 at 10:53 pm
dr_robert Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 10:45 pm
well, “never-before-seen” poster who apparently thanks i might be MR but also knows me well enuff to know i live in sunnyvale, i am spending the week on the monterey bay coast in a beeech house.
February 6th, 2013 at 10:53 pm
**** I get on Bart thinking “cool it stops right there at the Coli.” I depart and there it is year after friggin year a narrow and Rusted bridge.
They can’t do something simple like widen the bridge or paint the stupid chain-link fence that covers it.
It is beyond the City to think of zoning some restaurants or bars or something in the area! Even the tamale vendors and T-shirt sellers on the bridge have the SENSE to sell to the 50,000 plus people walking around.
The closest thing that we have is a friggin Dennys 2 miles in the opposite direction of the BART station. I just don’t get the City officials.
They are too busy spending money to hire “people” like ex-LAPD chief Bratton (who got hundreds of LAPD officers to clear-out homeless people from skid row to build hipster apartments and presided over the beating of protesters costing LA 15 million in liability).
Give the people development and JOBS so they won’t have to commit these crimes in the first place IDIOTS.
February 6th, 2013 at 10:55 pm
sorry scourge–i haven’t been here that much the last few days. but i had some fun making fun of him today.
another missdick classic was dropped on us. according to him, the term “hue man” is an accepted term for “those with color”. so the human race is made up of “hue men” and white (non-hue) men.
my fav thing about him is his apparent lack of ability to see what a contradiction it is that he bases his entire life on “race”, while stating that race is concept made up by a white man to divide people (which is true). so…….which is it? there is race or there isn’t?
it’s kinda like his argument that stats don’t count for palmer, only wins and losses, but it’s the opposite for the new wavers like newton.
he’s a fun toy.
February 6th, 2013 at 10:56 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 10:46 pm
One thing is for sure City of Oakland has done squat to make the O.CO successful. Every time I go to the O.CO, I have saved up $ and I am ready to spend. Out side of the Coliseum there id NOTHING for me to spend on.
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We need Coliseum City in a bad way. I think a lot of folks are in your boat. They are ready to drop dough on good food and cool things but it’s nowhere to be found. Many of us just want to have a good time and are ready to spend the money.
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THANK YOU! I don’t know whats wrong with them even in down years the Raids can pull 54,000 per game. Why won’t they develop its been since 1995 closing in on 20 years now?
February 6th, 2013 at 10:57 pm
Don’t know why my HTML didn’t go through the first two times, it did in the past.
Sorry, Doc, couldn’t help the “beeech house” thing!
February 6th, 2013 at 10:58 pm
Phil Loadholt, OT, Vikings. Age: 27.
Phil Loadholt was one of the most penalized linemen in the NFL this past season (11 penalties), but he made up for it with his powerful run-blocking and sound pass protection.
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Looks like we got a winner! Bring him in, Reggie. Let DA work his penalty-killing magic on this guy.
February 6th, 2013 at 10:58 pm
Papertiger418 Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 10:51 pm
Me too. Klas had a good run. He was well liked by all.
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not all. beech hated him. which endeared him to me even more.
it’s around that time that beech decided seymour bush and i were the same person, so he invented the mangled handle nob bust for us, and he combined klas with albert bigelow paine, and came up with klas puss.
it’s always great fun when the trolls get confused and start accusing everyone of being the dreaded “crossposter”.
February 6th, 2013 at 10:59 pm
That’s from a list of OT candidates Raider O put up earlier, by the way.
February 6th, 2013 at 10:59 pm
“ArmChair GM Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 8:11 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 6:21 pm
Ok Dr Robert name a noted historian who lived between 20BC and 50AD who wrote about Jesus!
here is your chance to put an Atheist to shame PROVE IT!
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S&B666-
Your comprehension skills are either severely lacking, or your bias against God has caused you to ignore the painfully obvious.I’ll show you why:
1)Cornelius Tacitus, lived from A.D. 55 to A.D. 120. He was a Roman historian and has been described as “the greates”
Armchair in your exuberance you came rushing to the keyboard to defend your faith and you missed the point completely and then took things out of context which caused you to embarrass yourself by proving my point.
THANK YOU!
So once more Einstein! tell me how Cornelius Tacitus who was born 50 years after Jesus death can physically verify his existence?
I was talking about the 6 most noted historians (mostly Philo of Alexandria) who lived while Jesus lived. Not a historian who was born 50 years after Jesus died!
If you would just slow down and stop frothing at the mouth to respond take a step back try to understand the argument that was talking place you might not look as stupid next time dumbass!
February 6th, 2013 at 10:59 pm
Scourge Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 10:57 pm
Don’t know why my HTML didn’t go through the first two times, it did in the past.
Sorry, Doc, couldn’t help the “beeech house” thing!
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oh man. i think i would jump out the window rather than spend one second in a beeech house.
February 6th, 2013 at 11:00 pm
Municipalities don’t build stadiums for private sports owners any more. They can zone, maybe donate land. But the capatalist’s have to invest too, at least.
February 6th, 2013 at 11:00 pm
Realty, hope you eventually saw what I was trying to do.
February 6th, 2013 at 11:00 pm
<>
February 6th, 2013 at 11:01 pm
February 6th, 2013 at 11:01 pm
*test*
February 6th, 2013 at 11:01 pm
*/test*
February 6th, 2013 at 11:02 pm
silverandblack–i imagine u pretend to be happy but u know ur not.
February 6th, 2013 at 11:03 pm
hmmm… site not liking angle brackets for some reason…
February 6th, 2013 at 11:04 pm
according to Encyclopedia of religion, allah corresponded to the Babylonian god baal, who Mohammed worshiped as the suppreme god,
allah is never called Yahweh in the koran so they are not the same god.
If we serve the same God why are Muslims told not to be a friend of a Jew or Christian in sura 5:51
If we serve the same God, we would ee not be cool?
February 6th, 2013 at 11:04 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 11:00 pm
Municipalities don’t build stadiums for private sports owners any more. They can zone, maybe donate land. But the capatalist’s have to invest too, at least.
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Kell, is there any movement from the city on investing in a “Coliseum City” type area? Is there any redevelopment funding they can use?
February 6th, 2013 at 11:05 pm
dr_robert Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 10:59 pm
oh man. i think i would jump out the window rather than spend one second in a beeech house.
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C’mon, Doc, you know The Most Diggity would realize that ahead of time and not include windows in that beeech house!
February 6th, 2013 at 11:06 pm
Yep, I saw it Scourge. Don’t think this place allows html tags.
Let me try using bold
February 6th, 2013 at 11:06 pm
For those of you who are believers, the Cynus constellation is definite proof that JC was His Son and would die for our sins:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:CygnusCC.jpg
February 6th, 2013 at 11:06 pm
Oh, guess it does. Testing underline, bold, italic.
February 6th, 2013 at 11:07 pm
Coliseum City would be pretty cool. But who’s paying
February 6th, 2013 at 11:07 pm
dr_robert Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 10:59 pm
oh man. i think i would jump out the window rather than spend one second in a beeech house.
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or upon landing, you’d find yourself on top of a wasted hizzy, spread-eagled, that would think you’re the Beeech Diggs himself!
February 6th, 2013 at 11:07 pm
da trinity–there all kinds of things going on between the religions but it’s true that they are connected.
Christianity and Islam share a historical and traditional connection. The two faiths share a common origin in the Middle East[2] and Muslims consider Christians (and Jews) to be People of the Book. Belief in the Injil (the original Gospel of Jesus) is an important part of Islamic theology, although Muslims view the current Gospels as altered. The bond extends even further, with the Islamic Prophet Muhammad instructing Muslims to defend the Christian faith from aggressors after treaties of peace have been signed, such as in the document called the Achtiname of Muhammad. Islam and Christianity share the twin commandments of the paramount importance of loving God and loving one’s neighbor, although the interpretations of these statements differ between the two traditions, and, indeed, vary between all three Abrahamic religions.[3]
Despite the similarities between the two faiths there are some major theological differences. Islam denies that God can be divided into a Trinity and consider this division of God’s Oneness to be a grave sin (Shirk). Muslims see Jesus as the last prophet sent to the Children of Israel and the Messiah (Masih) miraculously born of the Virgin Mary (Maryām), but do not believe that he is the Son of God or divine.
February 6th, 2013 at 11:09 pm
test
February 6th, 2013 at 11:10 pm
test
February 6th, 2013 at 11:10 pm
Raidertalk Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 11:04 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 11:00 pm
Municipalities don’t build stadiums for private sports owners any more. They can zone, maybe donate land. But the capatalist’s have to invest too, at least.
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Kell, is there any movement from the city on investing in a “Coliseum City” type area? Is there any redevelopment funding they can use?
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They’re investing a million? In studies.
Gov Brown’s budget expects a surplus this year, redevelopment funds?
The Raiders Ownership are going to have to come up with some money.
Developer’s in Coliseum City? The area is surrounded by ghetto and the airport?
I don’t know, I suspect not as it stands.
February 6th, 2013 at 11:10 pm
test
February 6th, 2013 at 11:11 pm
Link to Raiders website
February 6th, 2013 at 11:11 pm
test
February 6th, 2013 at 11:11 pm
Scourge Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 11:07 pm
dr_robert Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 10:59 pm
oh man. i think i would jump out the window rather than spend one second in a beeech house.
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or upon landing, you’d find yourself on top of a wasted hizzy, spread-eagled, that would think you’re the Beeech Diggs himself!
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well, i don’t live in his fantasy, so if were in his actual house, i’m sure if i jumped out the window, i would find myself in a very dirty alley with possibly a hooker in it.
u do realize nothing he says is true, right?
and yes, i have heard the arguments that he shouldn’t be taken seriously. but if u question his authenticity, he gets very upset. he really is trying very hard to live a fantasy and thinks he’s convincing us.
pathetic.
February 6th, 2013 at 11:11 pm
testeroo
February 6th, 2013 at 11:14 pm
dr_robert Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 11:11 pm
u do realize nothing he says is true, right?
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In the spirit of many of today’s posts, I say…
HERETIC
February 6th, 2013 at 11:14 pm
*HERETIC!
February 6th, 2013 at 11:15 pm
:pootbutt:
February 6th, 2013 at 11:15 pm
February 6th, 2013 at 11:16 pm
Robert.
They may similaritys but the do not worship the same God. But whatever. Time to lay down. My bad to those annoyed by the religion talk but I did try mixing in some football talk but everyone bit on the religion topic unstead.
Again, I think if Geno is available, Reggie picks him. Not sure I like the idea of Geno being picked but I dis like what raiderallday posted on him. Seems like a smart and accurate QB. We’ll see how it shakes out.
February 6th, 2013 at 11:16 pm
&infin
February 6th, 2013 at 11:18 pm
I’m cool with Bryant at DT KK, he played extremely well the last month of regular season. He plays with passion.
February 6th, 2013 at 11:19 pm
Blue Verdana
February 6th, 2013 at 11:21 pm
The ideal draft would be trade down and still get a shot at Olgetree. Him Burris and Wheeler would be a good LB corps IMHO. Ogletree would add some speed and strength to an LB corp that’s been lacking that in the middle.
February 6th, 2013 at 11:21 pm
Bryant deserves a solid contract from us. Not TK money or anything…
February 6th, 2013 at 11:23 pm
dr_robert Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 10:45 pm
Lynn From Snot Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 10:41 pm
dr_robert Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 9:45 pm
proof of God is all around us everyday. the miracle of a child. watch a child grow and become a person with their own personality and it boggles the mind.
i’m watching the ocean right now. breathtaking when u think of it’s enormity, and all that goes on on there, and all we really don’t know
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They don’t have oceans in Sacramento, or Sunnyvale??
and at 9:45 at night, you’re pretty much watching pitch black dark, no?
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well, “never-before-seen” poster who apparently thanks i might be MR but also knows me well enuff to know i live in sunnyvale, i am spending the week on the monterey bay coast in a beach house.
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Many posters here know me. Been here for years. Save that weak “never before seen”. You seem to think saying that negates the question.
Rarely post because this place has gone to total ssschett, big part due to your incessant race baiting. Was a simple question about you watching something that is pitch black. You’re rather sensitive, and defensive, aren’t you?
Feel free to scroll through the past. I used to post a lot when the posters weren’t so juvenile. Now it’s romper room.
February 6th, 2013 at 11:23 pm
Doc, you might want to hold off quoting some of the ancient Mediterranean(?) historians. If you read any modern scholar of classical works, in their intros and forewords, you often find discussions of how inaccurate the classical writers were.
Even on Google, which most college instructors refuse to accept as references in student papers, articles about ancient things will indicate variability among classical sources (e.g., battle at Thermopylae).
Just a thought.
February 6th, 2013 at 11:25 pm
Somethings are darkest before they are pitch black.
February 6th, 2013 at 11:26 pm
I dunno what that means but I saw it on the internet.
February 6th, 2013 at 11:27 pm
I’d be okay with Ogletree but we should find a solid FA to help out the youngsters in the LB corps. Not saying we need to sign Kruger (though that would be awesome), but some experience could make a big impact.
I’d rather draft an o-lineman. Give Soprano something to work with. We’re not that far away from having decent line play for a power scheme. It’s not like we were horrific under Hue; the ZBS just screwed us.
Also, a strong o-line will benefit whatever flux of skill position players we bring in down the road.
February 6th, 2013 at 11:29 pm
@Scourge
It was probably a quote from the movie Pitch Black. That film had some priceless one-liners in it.
February 6th, 2013 at 11:33 pm
Lynn From Snot Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 11:23 pm
Many posters here know me. Been here for years.
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Everyone know you. You are a piece of sh**.
February 6th, 2013 at 11:34 pm
dr_robert Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 11:11 pm
Scourge Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 11:07 pm
dr_robert Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 10:59 pm
oh man. i think i would jump out the window rather than spend one second in a beeech house.
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or upon landing, you’d find yourself on top of a wasted hizzy, spread-eagled, that would think you’re the Beeech Diggs himself!
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well, i don’t live in his fantasy, so if were in his actual house, i’m sure if i jumped out the window, i would find myself in a very dirty alley with possibly a hooker in it.
u do realize nothing he says is true, right?
and yes, i have heard the arguments that he shouldn’t be taken seriously. but if u question his authenticity, he gets very upset. he really is trying very hard to live a fantasy and thinks he’s convincing us.
pathetic.
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Exactly what I’m talking about.
I notice very few of the old timers are here. Now it’s these sad sorry exchanges, while posters are posting dozens of childish comments, or one word posts, obviously draining peoples servers, waiting to reload.
The recent mods should be fired. This whole format should be shelved. 90% of these posters, who are likely the same person, should be banned.
February 6th, 2013 at 11:35 pm
papertiger418 Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 11:27 pm
[snip]
I’d rather draft an o-lineman. Give Soprano something to work with. We’re not that far away from having decent line play for a power scheme. It’s not like we were horrific under Hue; the ZBS just screwed us.
Also, a strong o-line will benefit whatever flux of skill position players we bring in down the road.
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P-tiger, I agree with you. I’d even be willing to carry an extra o-lineman into the season at the expense of a another position player.
February 6th, 2013 at 11:36 pm
Hey Lynn, what part of Piece of sh** are you not getting?
Must be the piece part. Cause sh** you have down.
February 6th, 2013 at 11:37 pm
A lot of the pillars of the blog will disagree with me but I believe we stand a better chance finding some rough gems in the last rounds or as UDFAs from Division II schools. Guys who are good players and smart too because they had to go to class to stay on the team.
February 6th, 2013 at 11:38 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 11:33 pm
Lynn From Snot Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 11:23 pm
Many posters here know me. Been here for years.
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Everyone know you. You are a piece of sh**
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Poor Oakglen. You still sting from me reminding you of when you begged off years ago? Was it the ‘crying’ part that miffed you, or reminding you of you being bsdetector, 666, and others?
February 6th, 2013 at 11:38 pm
Exactly what I’m talking about.
I notice very few of the old timers are here.
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I am an “old timer” and you are a piece of sh**”.
February 6th, 2013 at 11:39 pm
Lynn you are a gutless piece of sh**. Is there any denying of this? No one knows you.
February 6th, 2013 at 11:40 pm
Lynn you don’t make sense. Is that shy you haven’;t been here?
February 6th, 2013 at 11:40 pm
@Scourge
Absolutely! Building the lines is a top priority and if Soprano wants to keep an extra ugly, do be it. Whatever else you want to say about him, he coaches a vicious o-line.
Speaking of which, Reggie has to bring Wiz 1.0 back into the fold. Soprano would be a great mentor, and we need guys like him around our team.
February 6th, 2013 at 11:42 pm
Scourge I was thinking the same thing. We will make a lot of trades and when its all said and done there might be 20 new faces on the team next year.
Trade down and get rid a of a few players to rack up 8 or 9 draft picks get 4 or 5 free agents then find 4 or 5 UDFA worth keeping we might get there.
February 6th, 2013 at 11:42 pm
Lynne, no one knows who you are and you are picking a [fight with me? this should be fun.
February 6th, 2013 at 11:42 pm
It’s not a coincidence on how many old timers here comment about how through the years Seymourbush/Oakglen/bsdetector/666 etc etc etc is the biggest cross poster ever.
No one else comes close.
And seeing some of your exchanges with a slew of “new” posters, I can see you continue to have long conversations with yourself.
somethings never change, do they, Oakglen?
Now? for consistency? Tell us how way back when oakglen just whooped everyone around.
And for old times sake, we’ll all laugh at you again.
February 6th, 2013 at 11:42 pm
Lynn why are you bringing me into your chat fight?
February 6th, 2013 at 11:43 pm
Don’t worry about the troll, Seymour. We know you’re legit; that’s what counts.
February 6th, 2013 at 11:44 pm
Lynn From Snot Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 11:42 pm
It’s not a coincidence on how many old timers here comment about how through the years Seymourbush/Oakglen/bsdetector/666 etc etc etc is the biggest cross poster ever.
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Lynn is that what you have? The biggerst cross poster ever? You are a gutless POS. That is what is on the table. Prove you are not the biggest POS ever.
February 6th, 2013 at 11:45 pm
P-Tiger, thanks for the reference, I’ll see if I can borrow it locally.
Thanks!
February 6th, 2013 at 11:46 pm
Seriously, 666, we gotta turnover this roster stat! Just bring in new faces and sever whacked-out contracts; we can’t get much worse after all
February 6th, 2013 at 11:46 pm
Lynn when the troll is about to get its ass kicked., it starts crying cross poster, like that matters. What have YOU EVER brought to this blog, since no one remembers you? Other than being a POS?
February 6th, 2013 at 11:47 pm
@ Papertiger418
So many holes to fill how can you prioritize it?
I will try please feel free to respond:
1. CB
2. DE
3. LB
4. RT
5 DT
February 6th, 2013 at 11:47 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 11:38 pm
Exactly what I’m talking about.
I notice very few of the old timers are here.
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I am an “old timer” and you are a piece of sh**”.
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True. You are. An old timer who is only rivaled by MR for handles. How many have you had now? 40? 50?
Just glancing through yesterdays massive thread, at least 5 people refer to you as SeyGlen, and you reply to all. Only one who pushes you over the edge with calling you that is Mr. Brown, who’s always had your number.
told you. some things never change. And you collapsing into a fetal position is something you do best.
February 6th, 2013 at 11:49 pm
Lynn, you are off topic. The question is not what morons accuse me of, it’s WHAT HAVE YOU BROUGHT?
February 6th, 2013 at 11:50 pm
Also lets start a Who to keep thread:
I will start with a couple of easy ones:
Wheeler
Bryant
February 6th, 2013 at 11:50 pm
SnB, spot on!
February 6th, 2013 at 11:50 pm
So Lynn, since you have NO GAME, you are going with what Jasmista Clown or some other loser is bringing to the table. Is that right? Man, talk about a TOTAL LOSER.
February 6th, 2013 at 11:51 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 11:46 pm
Lynn when the troll is about to get its ass kicked., it starts crying cross poster, like that matters. What have YOU EVER brought to this blog, since no one remembers you? Other than being a POS?
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See? You even confuse yourself.
First you say no one remembers me.
Then you say they do remember me, but as a POS.
Calm down, SeyGlen. Collect your thoughts.
Don’t make it so easy to embarrass you.
Others will probably laugh at you tomorrow for every stupid thing you say now.
Hey, I know. Go switch handles, and have another handle call me a POS. See how that goes.
February 6th, 2013 at 11:51 pm
So Lynn is hiding behind Jamista Clown?? Oh man, this is going to be rich!
February 6th, 2013 at 11:53 pm
Lynn you keep going back to something you can’t prove. Prove I switch handles please.
February 6th, 2013 at 11:53 pm
Lynn you are MR. You most hated person here.
February 6th, 2013 at 11:54 pm
Everyone knows you are MR.
February 6th, 2013 at 11:54 pm
Come on Lynn. You are getting your ass kicked.
February 6th, 2013 at 11:55 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 11:50 pm
So Lynn, since you have NO GAME, you are going with what Jasmista Clown or some other loser is bringing to the table. Is that right? Man, talk about a TOTAL LOSER.
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Let’s stick with what we know.
I’ll repeat my comment, that you tried to slip by it.
Numerous different posters call you SeyGlen.
Do you deny that? Of course you don’t. You stupidly answer them.
so, if you aren’t Oakglen, one of the sorriest meekest, whiniest jokes this board has ever know, why do so many call you that, and why do you answer to the name?
February 6th, 2013 at 11:55 pm
What’s wrong Lynn. Snot kinda sucks right?
February 6th, 2013 at 11:56 pm
Many of the blog pillars want to use a first round draft pick on an OL- (even DL-) man. I disagree. That might be the way to go if you don’t have many gaps or weaknesses to fill (like if you have an already competitive team and have lots of cap space). I believe, with all the needs the Raiders have and the financial constraints they face, they (we) need to be frugal. Given that the team will be in this position for a few years, it would be best if they build a niche as a place for quality players to go to prove themselves at a decent (Raider-friendly) salary for a few years before moving on for more money.
February 6th, 2013 at 11:57 pm
Lynn From Snot Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 11:55 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 11:50 pm
So Lynn, since you have NO GAME, you are going with what Jasmista Clown or some other loser is bringing to the table. Is that right? Man, talk about a TOTAL LOSER.
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Let’s stick with what we know.
I’ll repeat my comment, that you tried to slip by it.
Numerous different posters call you SeyGlen.
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Lynn try to focus. We are not talking about others. We are talking about YOU. And that YOU are a POS. You keep trying to bring others into this. You know why? Because YOU are a POS.
February 6th, 2013 at 11:57 pm
I’d also want to include a few FA vets in that mix for leadership if the salary is Raider-friendly.
February 6th, 2013 at 11:57 pm
Seriously Lynn, what do YOU have to say. Not others, YOU!
February 6th, 2013 at 11:58 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 11:53 pm
Lynn you are MR. You most hated person here.
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lol. Oh lordy. That’s all you have?
Are you saying I’ve never posted before?
That this is my first time posting, Oakglen?
I state only MR comes close to you in handles, and your little brain thinks I would insult myself, if I was MR?
I always knew you were stupid. Never knew the depth.
February 6th, 2013 at 11:59 pm
Lynn?? Hello?? Are you out there?
February 6th, 2013 at 11:59 pm
You are MR aren’t you Lynn?
February 6th, 2013 at 11:59 pm
666
Are you talking draft or in general? I think CB us a lot like our WR unit; we’ve got some young potential and a serviceable vet or two but need a leader back there. I think I’d invert your list and work the trenches, go RT and DT before DE or CB.
The vacancy at LB frightens me though; if we could break the bank I’d almost be willing to get a guy like Kruger, but we have no cap space and I’d rather get a viable DE and pray that Bilukidi miraculously steps up.
Like you said, with so many holes where do we start? We also need a solid vet at WR:
1.RT
2.DE
3.WR
4.LB
5.DT
February 7th, 2013 at 12:00 am
Lynn, you have nothing, you accuse others of nothing, what do yo have?
February 7th, 2013 at 12:01 am
Anybody out there known if there are *legal* ways to compensate players outside of contractual arrangements (i.e., buying/renting houses/apartments, buying/leasing cars, college tuition for players in offseason or payments into college funds for players’ children, etc.). I realize that local businesspeople can give players deals on cars and other vehicles. I know very little about contracts.
February 7th, 2013 at 12:03 am
Lynn From Snot Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 11:58 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 11:53 pm
Lynn you are MR. You most hated person here.
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lol. Oh lordy. That’s all you have?
Are you saying I’ve never posted before?
That this is my first time posting, Oakglen?
I state only MR comes close to you in handles, and your little brain thinks I would insult myself, if I was MR?
I always knew you were stupid. Never knew the depth.
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Lynn you are making yourself look like a moron. Settle down, don’t accuse me of what other morons think and bring a good point. Come on, you can do it!!!
February 7th, 2013 at 12:04 am
Did MR, errrrr, Lynn flush herself? I guess so…
February 7th, 2013 at 12:05 am
Scourge Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 12:01 am
Anybody out there known if there are *legal* ways to compensate players outside of contractual arrangements (i.e., buying/renting houses/apartments, buying/leasing cars, college tuition for players in offseason or payments into college funds for players’ children, etc.). I realize that local businesspeople can give players deals on cars and other vehicles. I know very little about contracts.
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In college they do that, but the Pro contracts are so large it would not make a difference.
February 7th, 2013 at 12:06 am
4th request for Seymour Bush to clear his name, and prove he’s not a cross poster.
Many call you Oakglen, or SeyGlen. and you answer. For years you have answered.
I missed your answer the last 4 times.
Why do you continue to answer?
We all know why. Just want to see if you can admit it.
February 7th, 2013 at 12:07 am
Wow. Looks like Lynn from Snots best “point” was you are some one else. Even tho a) there is no proof b) that is an idiotic statement and c) why would I be? and d) even if I was, who gives a flying f***?
February 7th, 2013 at 12:08 am
@Scourge
I just think we’d be tempting fate if we did anything besides trading back and drafting the BLA. With so many holes on the team, we need to build a core so if we trade back and get a shot at Warmack I say we jump on it. We may add a gem in the later rounds but I would not want to count on that.
We definitely have to mitigate risk and not over pay players, but taking a 1st rounder in the teens wouldn’t be especially prohibitive. Again, Sparano should be able to snag us some talent.
February 7th, 2013 at 12:08 am
Lynn From Snot Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 12:06 am
4th request for Seymour Bush to clear his name, and prove he’s not a cross poster.
Many call you Oakglen,
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We are now on this for the tenth time. DO YOU HAVE AN IQ UNDER THIRTY??? WHAT DO YOU HAVE???
February 7th, 2013 at 12:09 am
Ignore the troll, guys. Honestly, he’s not worth your time.
February 7th, 2013 at 12:09 am
Thanks, Seymour. I was just looking for things outside of the contract/cap space.
February 7th, 2013 at 12:11 am
As I have said for five years on this blog, when an imbecile is losing an argument, she immediately goes for the “you cross post” card. OK. You lost an argument. No one cross posted. Who cares? No one else came to that argument. That is the dying words of a drowning moron.
February 7th, 2013 at 12:11 am
You know, SeyGlen, I recall someone saying a really ignorant comment.
How if russell ever did get cut, that he would be perfect for Holmgen, or Peyton Manning to mentor, and that if he did get cut, that is exactly what would happen.
You wanted MY opinion?
Ok. My opinion is who ever said this has to be about as bright as a brick.
What do you think?
February 7th, 2013 at 12:12 am
Lynn everyone on the blog wants you to go back to whatever POS place you came from. You got your ass kicked. Time to go.
February 7th, 2013 at 12:13 am
Lynn I have posted literally thousands of posts here. 99% of them have been right. You come here and hide behind others. Do you wear a dress?
February 7th, 2013 at 12:15 am
Seymour Bush Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 12:07 am
Wow. Looks like Lynn from Snots best “point” was you are someone else, even if I was, (Oakglenn) who gives a flying f***?
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Perfect. lol. Like taking candy from a baby, Oakglenn.
February 7th, 2013 at 12:16 am
P-tiger, where I have a different perspective is use of the 1st round pick. I’d rather trade it for as many later (2nd picks or later mid-round) picks as we can get. The Gallery thing still bugs me. We may have misused Gallery and be partly responsible, but I’d like to avoid that mistake again. Yet, as you suggest, it’s a matter of considered risk.
February 7th, 2013 at 12:16 am
Lynn From Snot Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 12:11 am
You know, SeyGlen, I recall someone saying a really ignorant comment.
How if russell ever did get cut, that he would be perfect for Holmgen, or Peyton Manning to mentor, and that if he did get cut, that is exactly what would happen.
You wanted MY opinion?
Ok. My opinion is who ever said this has to be about as bright as a brick.
What do you think?
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Simple question.
Cat got your tongue?
February 7th, 2013 at 12:17 am
Lynn, you have proven nothing other than you are the new blog b****. Go for you!
February 7th, 2013 at 12:18 am
Lynn pat yourself on the back. What have you proven? I have proven you are the new blog biotch.
February 7th, 2013 at 12:19 am
Lynn did you go cry?
February 7th, 2013 at 12:20 am
What a waste of an evening. Good night sports fans.
February 7th, 2013 at 12:23 am
Here’s another Idiot of the Week post.
April 29th, 2010 at 5:39 pm
Something tells me if we cut Russell today Indy, New England or Denver would pick him up, let him sit for two years, watch him mature and then he would win 10+games a year for the next ten years
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Now that is a riot, don’t you think, Seyglenn?
Can you believe anyone made such a ridiculous statement? Any idea who would make a comment that ignorant?
February 7th, 2013 at 12:23 am
P-Tiger, how much more do you think we’d pay for Warmack because he’s from Alabama compared to his approximate equivalent from elsewhere?
February 7th, 2013 at 12:25 am
Lynn so now you are going to post who knows what from when? Was that before they had registration? Lynn you are a troll loser. But hey, your Whiners got kicked and are circling the drain. sucks to be you moron. hahahahaha
February 7th, 2013 at 12:26 am
Keep posting you imbecile. I asked you to make ONE Comment on your own. And you couldn’t do it! You ARE A POS!
February 7th, 2013 at 12:27 am
Scourge Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 10:04 pm
Yo, P-man, Doc, R-O, P-tiger, DJJ, and everyone else! I’ve been following all the posts of the previous report and the ones P-man and others led us to as faster reloads. Props to them for doing so!
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Humbly appreciate the props,on my part.
February 7th, 2013 at 12:28 am
So this troll posts stuff from years ago??? from oakglenn?? Man, that dude RULED this blog!!!!! hahahahahahahaha
February 7th, 2013 at 12:29 am
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
February 7th, 2013 at 12:33 am
Anybody else notice, or is it my imagination. MR meltdown?
February 7th, 2013 at 12:35 am
The Docstic schtic went haywire.
February 7th, 2013 at 12:37 am
Lynn From Snot Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 12:23 am
Here’s another Idiot of the Week post.
April 29th, 2010 at 5:39 pm
Something tells me if we cut Russell today Indy, New England or Denver would pick him up, let him sit for two years, watch him mature and then he would win 10+games a year for the next ten years
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Seymour Bush Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 12:28 am
So this troll posts stuff from years ago??? from oakglenn?? Man, that dude RULED this blog!!!!! hahahahahahahaha
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Oakglenn? Oakglenn made that stupid comment?
Actually, IT WAS YOU. LMFAO.
Seymour Bush Says:
April 29th, 2010 at 5:39 pm
Something tells me if we cut Russell today Indy, New England or Denver would pick him up, let him sit for two years, watch him mature and then he would win 10+games a year for the next ten years.
February 7th, 2013 at 12:38 am
P-man, you’re most welcome! You earn the props. Moses-like, you lead us to the Promised Blog-story (or whatever the mods posts are called)!
I don’t know who MR is. I haven’t been lurking/posting here long enough. I’ve read some references to a MaddenRaider but I’m not sure.
February 7th, 2013 at 12:41 am
Classic.
First I get you to admit you’re Oakglen “but who cares”?
And then you laugh at a comment “Oakglen” made, which, in fact, was you SeyGlen.
This was fun. I’ll definitely stop back in.
Oh, hey, for fun?
Who head up his ass poster answered the following?
Dakota Says:
April 30th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
Russell’s career is on life support.
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I doubt his career is on life support. Shoot, how many chances did Lawrence Phillips get? If they let Rae Carruth out of prison, someone would sign him. Russell would be PERFECT for someone like Holmgren, Bellichik, Peyton Manning, Andy Reid to mentor and let sit and mature. And that is exactly what would happen.
February 7th, 2013 at 12:46 am
Can’t resist.
One last laugh, at Seymourbush/Oakglenn/666/bsdetector etc expense.
How do you know when you have someone all flustered?
When they post the same comment, within a minute of the first one.
Damn, I’m good.
Seymour Bush Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 12:17 am
Lynn, you have proven nothing other than you are the new blog b****. Go for you!
Seymour Bush Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 12:18 am
Lynn pat yourself on the back. What have you proven? I have proven you are the new blog biotch.
February 7th, 2013 at 12:48 am
Notice how the moment I posted proof the idiot posts was Seymours, he disappeared like the puzzy he is.
Like I said, somethings never change.
February 7th, 2013 at 12:49 am
The thing I dislike about some posters (i.e., Mistic1) is not what they post but how they post. Short sentences with spaces between them, long double-spaced lists, etc. It makes scanning difficult, not that I read much, if any, of those types of posts anymore.
February 7th, 2013 at 1:00 am
Andre Smith, OT, Bengals. Age: 26.
Andre Smith has developed into one of the league’s premier right tackles. He was a dominant run-blocker and also excelled in pass protection.
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who wanted to draft him?
February 7th, 2013 at 1:01 am
Nice to see jerry step in with a post before corky killed the blog Jerry created.
February 7th, 2013 at 1:03 am
Lakers need to sign k-mart.
February 7th, 2013 at 1:04 am
As to the content if this post….just another sign that the team is headed to LA.
February 7th, 2013 at 1:13 am
G’d night, all.
February 7th, 2013 at 1:18 am
OK, for you scourge, one more time.
MR, The real Madden Raider, Sullivan44 and who knows how many sock puppets and aliases took an advanced course in trolling and blog disruption.
Came back as both mistic and dr_ rob and who knows who else,
That apparantly are diametrically opposed but in reality generate dissonant fodder designed to provke an emotional response that either suck us innocents in , or regenerates it’s own feedback and on and on and on it goes.
Right MR?
February 7th, 2013 at 1:21 am
Dakota Says:
Nice to see jerry step in with a post before corky killed the blog Jerry created.
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Told you it was not worth your while emailing Becker.
February 7th, 2013 at 5:32 am
Good Morning Nation!!! Seen that news yesterday on twitter and went huh? (I was out of the office yesterday)…
Always thought that Mt Davis was a bad idea!
February 7th, 2013 at 5:47 am
Good morning Hwnrdr,
I agree with you. It would be a stadium improvement if they tore it down. But it’s cheaper to just tarp it over.
February 7th, 2013 at 5:48 am
Yup! I wonder if they are thinking that this is a guarantee that the games will be sold out every game? Because man…I have been to games where there were only 30k…
February 7th, 2013 at 5:56 am
People saying “if you build it, they will come” are way offbase. People don’t flock to new stadiums because of the amenities of the venue. They go there to see a good show. The Raiders haven’t put on a good show in quite a while.
I know most fans want the playoffs, championships, etc. But I think the people are just tired of going to games and miserably wallowing in their 3rd qtr beer. It’s emotionally draining, and a lot of people find excuses to go to do constructive things that don’t ruin their day.
What the people want is a competitive team. Even if it comes with losing. Just compete. Don’t go out there and jog, finger point, play halfazz football. The 4-12 record hurt, but the non-competiveness is what keeps people away. It’s not the stadium. People gladly pay $$$ to sit on upside down 5 gallon buckets to see a winner.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:09 am
I agree Guest! I agree…
February 7th, 2013 at 6:10 am
Dakota Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 1:04 am
As to the content if this post….just another sign that the team is headed to LA.
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I hope not, but it sure is looking that way.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:17 am
Morning nation,
Let’s get down to business:
Loks like kelly, seymour, mitchell, dhb, palmer could all be gone.
I would get Vick at a low price after he is released.
Sign keller for te.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:17 am
I think every new NFL stadium sold out every game for the first couple years.
If you build it, they will come……for awhile.
Didn’t Cincy sell out like 7 years in a row with their new stadium? Then they made the playoffs and they stopped selling out, lol.
Hardcore fans will go anywhere, but hardcore fans don’t make up 100% of fan attendance.
You need to get Ned from corporate, and Cindy and Jackie to go. They don’t care about winning as much as a good time.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:19 am
Guest123 Says:
People saying “if you build it, they will come” are way offbase. People don’t flock to new stadiums because of the amenities of the venue. They go there to see a good show. The Raiders haven’t put on a good show in quite a while.
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Yep. Just ask the Miami Marlins.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:20 am
AZ Cardinals have sold out every game since they built their new stadium, 7 years ago.
I’ve been there. People buy tickets, hang out at the bars until halfway through the 1st quarter, and watch the end of the 4th quarter back at the same bars.
Raiders not only need a new stadium, they need some entertainmnet outside said new stadium.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:22 am
You need to get Ned from corporate, and Cindy and Jackie to go. They don’t care about winning as much as a good time.
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yes, but ned and cindee from accounting do notice when the stadium empties out. not much fun drinking beer and being the life of the party in a mausoleum. winning creates atmosphere that party people are looking for. people stampeding the exits is not a good time for anyone.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:23 am
Miami Marlins went from 1.4 million to 2.2 million attendance with the new stadium, an increase of 55%.
They lost 3 more games than the previous year.
If you build it, they will come.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:25 am
The shine of a new stadium will wear off after a couple of years, no doubt.
But if the Raiders built a new stadium magically overnight, season tickets sales would double overnight as well.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:26 am
With the releasing of Bradshaw and Canty yesterday…should we look at them?
February 7th, 2013 at 6:26 am
I went to games back in the 70’s. The stadium was fairly new back then and the location and nearby surroundings was perfect for that generation. Today, the whole play, socially and architecturally is dated. Not to mention the security and lack of quality amenities around the stadium. It needs much more than just a stadium, but a master plan for a small city surrounding it complete with many transportation networks and secure points of entry. It needs to be for lack of a better word “disney-fied” to appeal to the family man. because that’s where the money is at.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:27 am
Again, look at the Bengals.
They sold out every game for their new stadium for 6 years. 1 playoff berth.
They stopped selling out in 2011 and into 2012, all the while they made the first back-to-back playoffs in team history.
The park brought more people out than the wins did.
Won’t be true everywhere, and probably wouldn’t be in Oakland (no way do we not sellout games in the middle of back to back playoff years) but the point remains.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:29 am
The current site is perfect from a transportation standpoint, and seems like their is plenty of land to develop.
Don’t know the inner-workings of it all, but unless you plan on moving to the ‘Burbs, that is about as much land and accesible transportation you are going to get in a big city.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:30 am
But if the Raiders built a new stadium magically overnight, season tickets sales would double overnight as well.
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Not if they doubled the price. And even if it was a marginal increase, it wont be sustainable.
here in Tampa, the one thing they got going for them is the heavy amount of northerner transplants that go to the games to see “their” team from up north. It fills the seats and is a huge part of the walkup attendance. Oakland doesn’t have that transplant population. It depends on locals, and in a small market. that’s a tough deal.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:31 am
Ned and Cindy are old news, it is never good to date anyone in the work place. Ned has been demoted and Cindy just isnt as fun anymore.
Joe and Emma are all the rage now. Emma is hot and if the game gets boring she might just do you or Joe for entertainment. Thats what i’m talkin about.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:31 am
What’s crazy about these tarps is that they can’t remove them.
I didn’t think that was the case.
What happens when we draft Geno and win the division? WE still have to leave the tarps up?
February 7th, 2013 at 6:31 am
I GO TO A FOOTBALL GAME FOR THE GAME.MY IDEA OF GAMEDAY IS NOT A PREGAME MOVIE AT A CINEMA INSIDE THE STADIUM SOMEWHERE,CATCH A FEW PLAYS FROM A “SPORTS BAR” ON THE OTHERSIDE OF THE COMPLEX..THEN I NICE SIT DOWN DINNER AT A RESTURANT NEXT DOOR TO THE MOVIE THEATER..EVERYBODY IS DIFFERANT..A NEW VENUE IS A MUST HAVE FOR THE RAIDERS AND THE ORGANISATION WILL HAVE TO ATTRACT A WIDE SCALE OF FANS TO FILL THE PLACE AND SURVIVE.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:33 am
WE DRAFT GENO,THEY WILL BE TARPING THE 2ND DECK..
February 7th, 2013 at 6:33 am
The key is also the luxury suites.
Lots of suits in those, but come October, those suits will take their clients to a SF Giants game instead.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:35 am
DLF,
You are right, it is about appealing to all sides. You HAVE TO attract the non-hardcore fan money, the family money, the corporate money, the traveling money.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:39 am
Good Morning Dirt-Lot
I don’t need that sports bar, movie theatre cineplex either. But it’s absolutely needed to fill the stadium and keep the Raiders in Oakland. Seems like a luxury I know, but the new generation is all about convenience.
This country I swear have become slaves to convenience. Nobody wants to rough it anymore. Everything has to be nice and sanitary and homogenous.
all the renegades and salty types are not going to be catered to in that new stadium. might be a good thing, but it will be very different. different crowd altogether.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:39 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 6:33 am
The key is also the luxury suites.
Lots of suits in those, but come October, those suits will take their clients to a SF Giants game instead.
Not if an earthquake happens and swallows them whole…buwhahaha! Ok, just kidding…maybe
February 7th, 2013 at 6:40 am
Yeah that would be weird seeing “that” crowd slowly go away!
February 7th, 2013 at 6:41 am
631.Just Fire Baby Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 6:31 am
What’s crazy about these tarps is that they can’t remove them.
I didn’t think that was the case.
What happens when we draft Geno and win the division? WE still have to leave the tarps up?
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Which is ridiculous, because there is no rule that says Cowboys stadium can’t uncork their extra 20,000 seats for the playoffs if they so choose.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:42 am
The current site is perfect from a transportation standpoint, and seems like their is plenty of land to develop.
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It is ideal. But it needs to swallow up huge swaths of land. They need at least a couple of blocks of land in perimeter to create a landscape break so that the loading docks and warehouses aren’t the first thing you see coming out of the stadium. Kind of like what they do at front entrances of gated subdivisions.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:44 am
I’d love to see a new stadium in Oakland. Surely it would be one of the next upcoming SuperBowl sites. It would be much better than the one going to NY next yr in the cold snowy weather.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:46 am
Why can’t they remove the tarps? Are the gussets welded on or something?
February 7th, 2013 at 6:48 am
guest123 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 6:46 am
Why can’t they remove the tarps? Are the gussets welded on or something?
I’m thinking that if they go that route, then the NFL would ban them from removing the tarp. I guess its one of those, you either tarp it or not kind of deals!
February 7th, 2013 at 6:50 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 6:23 am
Miami Marlins went from 1.4 million to 2.2 million attendance with the new stadium, an increase of 55%.
They lost 3 more games than the previous year.
If you build it, they will come.
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Most of that increase came in the first half of the season. It’s well known that attendance dropped off dramatically after the team failed to be competitive, started bleeding red ink, then had that July fire sale.
The stadium was the worst first-year performer for attendance in MLB this century. The attendance fell WAY short of projections by over a half million. It also fell WAY short of the team attendance record set in 1993 by about 800K.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:51 am
The NFL is not a Gov’t entity. They change the rules as they see fit to make the most money. They mess with the schedule and do flex scheduling to fit their ratings. If the need arises and it is playoff time, I don’t see the NFL holding the Raiders to 53K seating. With removable tarps, it’s an easy fix.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:55 am
JFB is going to stick to his 55% stat, Texas.
You’re wasting your time.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:56 am
Hey, the Marlins were awful last year, I don’t blame the fans for not showing up.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:57 am
guest123 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 6:51 am
The NFL is not a Gov’t entity. They change the rules as they see fit to make the most money. They mess with the schedule and do flex scheduling to fit their ratings. If the need arises and it is playoff time, I don’t see the NFL holding the Raiders to 53K seating. With removable tarps, it’s an easy fix.
I agree, I’m just reading into it
February 7th, 2013 at 6:59 am
I think the inability to remove the tarps has everything to do with the NFL allowing now 53K to be called a “sellout” and some type of revenue deal associated with it.
Mark doesn’t seem to be much of a gambler. I bet he buys “insurance” at the Black Jack table.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:59 am
A new “Downtown Oakland” project would generate YEAR ROUND income.
It’s a no brainer, man.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:00 am
POST-647,SO WERE THE RAIDERS..GOOD MORNING TO EVERYONE BTW..
February 7th, 2013 at 7:01 am
would generate YEAR ROUND income
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That’s why it is on the city to make something happen.
Trask is at the table already, with a football team and some money ready to make it happen.
What is the city offering?
February 7th, 2013 at 7:09 am
The City of Oakland, in my opinion, wouldn’t cry if the Raiders left again…wasn’t it on the ballots to vote to keep the teams in Oakland and the voters shot it down? I don’t know, I think I read something like that…
February 7th, 2013 at 7:14 am
Let me ask this…
I know if the city builds say, teh Coliseum Complex to keep the teams here in Oakland…I know the tax will increase right? But wouldn’t it work out in the end because revenue will be generated helping the city and the tax payers out?
February 7th, 2013 at 7:14 am
Morning, DIRT!
February 7th, 2013 at 7:15 am
Da Trinity Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 11:04 pm
according to Encyclopedia of religion, allah corresponded to the Babylonian god baal, who Mohammed worshiped as the suppreme god,
allah is never called Yahweh in the koran so they are not the same god.
If we serve the same God why are Muslims told not to be a friend of a Jew or Christian in sura 5:51
If we serve the same God, we would ee not be cool?
Da Trinity Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 10:46 pm
Raider O, do some research on Muslims.
And again Christians-Jews do not worship the same God as Muslims.
Muslims and Jews both come from Abraham but that doesn’t mean they believe the same thing.
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Raider O Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 8:02 pm
The term Allāh is derived from a contraction of the Arabic definite article al- “the” and ʾilāh “deity, god” to al-lāh meaning “the [sole] deity, God” (ὁ θεὸς μόνος, ho theos monos).[8] Cognates of the name “Allāh” exist in other Semitic languages, including Hebrew and Aramaic.[9] Biblical Hebrew mostly uses the plural form (but functional singular) Elohim. The corresponding Aramaic form is ʼĔlāhā ܐܠܗܐ in Biblical Aramaic and ʼAlâhâ ܐܲܠܵܗܵܐ in Syriac as used by the Assyrian Church, both meaning simply “God”.[10] In the Sikh scriptures, Guru Granth Sahib, the term Allah (Punjabi: ਅਲਹੁ) is used 37 times.[11]
Do us a favor and educate yourself before you post about things you don’t understand.
Can you read?
February 7th, 2013 at 7:16 am
Mohammad worshiped a Babylonian god?!?!
Wow… Your ignorance is amazing.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:16 am
I have advocated a new stadium but minus the luxury boxes. Build 45-55,000 stadium with great seats, field a decent team and it would become a feared place to play.
Skip the suites for the dam expensive suit wearers and you could build an awesome football site.
I know, I know, that’s where the money is, etc.
To heck with that. Compete for the div title every year and you will sell out the stadium every year
February 7th, 2013 at 7:20 am
Hwnrdr Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 7:14 am
Let me ask this…
I know if the city builds say, teh Coliseum Complex to keep the teams here in Oakland…I know the tax will increase right? But wouldn’t it work out in the end because revenue will be generated helping the city and the tax payers out?
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The ring came off my pudding can
Take my pen knife, my good man
I swear it’s Oakland’s only choice
Throw up your hands and raise your voice
Stadium
What’s it called?
Stadium
Once again
Stadium
February 7th, 2013 at 7:20 am
My bumper sticker says my God is madder then H E double toothpicks and is coming back soon.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:22 am
I bet “my” stadium can be built for under 800 million.
Closer to half a billion if politicians and unions kept their hands out of my pockets
February 7th, 2013 at 7:24 am
BY THE WAY
THANK YOU JERRY
We the semi pro bloggers who have tutored under your awesome mentorship wish you would kick corks arse and take over your rightful position as the Uber Blog Pimp
February 7th, 2013 at 7:26 am
The city can bring the biggest trading chip, and trump card, to the bargaining table, by their ability to float debt.
I thought MoonBeam is talking about surpluses these days?
City floats some money, county a little bit, Raiders bring some, some outside/investor money, and boom it is done.
Doesn’t seem like rocket science.
You can host all kinds of events there, and bring outside people into Oakland, and with even some half-azzed “city complex” with a PeiWei, Yardhouse, Chili’s and a high-end pizza joint you get them to spend their dinero.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:30 am
im not saying star wouldnt be nice, just saying we drafted that monster bilikudi ton develop so a FA DT makes more sense than looking at him as a wasted pick. assuming we go 3-4 we dont need 2 basically rookie NT. if we stick with 4-3 (doubtful) the more DT the merrier
February 7th, 2013 at 7:32 am
in the 3-4 scheme we should be drafting DE/OLB at #3
February 7th, 2013 at 7:35 am
Draft better and people will buy tickets.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:37 am
According to Kiper’s mock draft:
1- Joeckel
2- Moore
3- Star
4- milliner
5- JJ
McShay’s:
1- Star
2- Werner
3- Milliner
4- Joeckel
February 7th, 2013 at 7:38 am
Geno Smith is not a top 5 pick.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:39 am
Gonna be hard to figure draft possibles without knowing how management feels about the club and the direction they are headed.
Mostly questions about the D scheme, and the run blocking system and third but just as important is CP/TP.
For all we know neither of those guys have a future beyond next year if that. If on the other hand, Reg/DA like TP and plan on him being the QB of the future then that solves many a problem.
I bet they want a pocket passer and are hoping KC/JAX does not take Geno
February 7th, 2013 at 7:39 am
Draft the bpa. Trade or no trade
February 7th, 2013 at 7:39 am
as much as i hate to say it, I would not be surprised to see Milliner at #3. Not what I want but CB might be our thinnest area. Also thin in FA
February 7th, 2013 at 7:40 am
Geno Smith is not a top 5 pick.
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He’s going 3rd
February 7th, 2013 at 7:41 am
Geno can punt himself into the top five with a draftcamp like the one JR delivered
February 7th, 2013 at 7:41 am
626.guest123 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 6:26 am
I went to games back in the 70’s. The stadium was fairly new back then and the location and nearby surroundings was perfect for that generation. Today, the whole play, socially and architecturally is dated. Not to mention the security and lack of quality amenities around the stadium. It needs much more than just a stadium, but a master plan for a small city surrounding it complete with many transportation networks and secure points of entry. It needs to be for lack of a better word “disney-fied” to appeal to the family man. because that’s where the money is at.
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You go to any NFL stadium, save Dallas, and you are going to see the same stuff….a shop where you can buy the team’s gear, lots of concrete, very uncomfortable chairs, food vendors that repeat every 75 feet in the concourse, and that is about it. I have been to the coliseum and there isn’t much difference between the new mile high and the coliseum.
Bad food, cold concrete, uncomfortable seats….and very little as far as fun places to go near the stadium.
There is a couple giant screens at the new mile high, and I am sure the luxury boxes are much better, but for general admittance, one stadium is about like the other.
A billion dollar stadium or anywhere near that? That if nucking futs!
February 7th, 2013 at 7:47 am
668.Raider O Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 7:38 am
Geno Smith is not a top 5 pick.
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Let’s hope he is….just not for the Raiders. Let KC make that gamble. Geno might turn out to be good, but based on the few games I have seen him in, there are a lot of short throws, and long runs after the catch that seem to pad his considerable stats.
Can he make good deep NFL throws?
February 7th, 2013 at 7:50 am
Cowboys Stadium may be a little easier on the eyes and backside, but it’s definitely a LOT harder on the pocketbook.
Minimum $60 to park. No public transportation. Jerry Jones used his muscle to keep the DART rail as far away as possible. Park at the Walmart across the street? $200+ to get your car out of impound.
And a frozen WINE-BASED margarita sets you back double digit dollars. Same with crap beers like Bud and Miller.
Honestly I’d rather go to a cold, hard concrete stadium with $6 beers and nachos every 75 feet.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:52 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 7:40 am
Geno Smith is not a top 5 pick.
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He’s going 3rd
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LOL
Another great prediction by Chico. Almost as good as predicting 30+ points from Knapp’s offense.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:54 am
That’s why a no frills stadium would be the envy of 31 other teams. No nonsense like heated/airconditioned boxes for the elite.
Cut out those and concentrate on great seats for everyone. Maybe 50,000 seats at the most. Easy access for food, beer and peerooms.
Design for easy entry and evac from stadium to bars, eateries, other stuff to do before and after the game. I am sure some inventive minds can come up with stuff.
But the NFL needs to cooperate and shorten the darn games to under three hours. Commercials have got way out of hand. The only people who want the games to last over 4 hours are the sponsers and maybe the people partying it up in the lux boxes but they arrive late and leave early anyway
Come to think of it, shorten the season by eliminating a preseason game or two and the bye week and the SB break week.
Add more players to the roster to make up for the bye week
Just the wild dreams of a crazy old koot who wishes everyone would follow the Golden Rule. like I said, plum crazy
February 7th, 2013 at 7:54 am
Dakota,
Geno has great stats, but when you watch him he looks average. Average athlete, average arm, so I doubt he will be a top 5 pick.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:55 am
677.Raider O Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 7:52 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 7:40 am
Geno Smith is not a top 5 pick.
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He’s going 3rd
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LOL
Another great prediction by Chico. Almost as good as predicting 30+ points from Knapp’s offense.
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Go easy on Vegas, he is still reeling from the changes on Grey Anatomy….and the fall of his boy, Slowlando McLazy.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:57 am
Btw, find a way to improve your product, and you can sell more tickets and you don’t have to cover/ eliminate seats.
I Miss Al!
February 7th, 2013 at 7:57 am
I wonder if the Raiders can actually make more revenue from ads on the tarps than the half-full seats?
February 7th, 2013 at 7:58 am
Lakers sign K-Mart yet?
We need warm bodies!
February 7th, 2013 at 7:58 am
The ‘new’ idea in stadiums for the NFL is not the 85,000 seat monstrosities like FedEx field, MetLife stadium, or Cowboy’s stadium. It is 55,000 seat stadiums with 3 or 4 bar’s in the stadium (which will hold another 3-5k people) with numerous HD televisions throughout the facility and standing room only areas in the corners of the stadium with a capacity of another 10-12k people. Now you can sell 70k tickets, but only HAVE to sell 46750 for a ’sell out’. The biggest draw for people to go to the games in most markets is the tailgate experience anyways.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:01 am
The biggest draw for people to go to the games in most markets is the tailgate experience anyways.
That right there my freind, is the reason why i go year after year!
February 7th, 2013 at 8:01 am
Poor Chico. lol
Is it possible to bring back McCrazy or is it over for him? We fired the LBs coach, but DA and Tarver are still here. I don’t like giving up on 23 yo top 10 picks.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:01 am
Dakota Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 7:58 am
Lakers sign K-Mart yet?
We need warm bodies!
We’re probably gonna need more than warm bodies!
February 7th, 2013 at 8:03 am
678. Sounds a bit socialistic. Would never work in this society of the haves and have nots. Also television revenue is the big player and so don’t count on seeing 3 hour or less games anytime soon. In fact, I think the 18 game season is on the horizon. The players will do it, for the right money.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:03 am
I agree O, kinda…
If McLame DLT is gonna be a cancer, then why keep him around. Good news (maybe) is that there isn’t a peep out of him so far…
February 7th, 2013 at 8:03 am
“There is iron in Plunkettheads words.” Ten Beers
February 7th, 2013 at 8:03 am
686.Raider O Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 8:01 am
Poor Chico. lol
Is it possible to bring back McCrazy or is it over for him? We fired the LBs coach, but DA and Tarver are still here. I don’t like giving up on 23 yo top 10 picks.
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Is he willing to pay back his entire rookie contract and play for $1 this season….that’s what he is worth. Keep him around on the practice squad foe entertainment purposes….”Hey, did you hear what Slowlando did this weekend! That’s one crazy mother f&*^@$!”
February 7th, 2013 at 8:05 am
My grammar and spelling are crap this morning….I need me some coffee!
February 7th, 2013 at 8:05 am
The biggest draw for people to go to the games in most markets is the tailgate experience anyways.
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Awesome! Used tailgate with my uncle when I was a kid and we’d wake up at 5:30 am to get the ice cooler ready and prep for the tailgate. It’s a great way to start a Sunday.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:07 am
D12 needs to toughen up
February 7th, 2013 at 8:08 am
Raider O Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 7:57 am
Btw, find a way to improve your product, and you can sell more tickets and you don’t have to cover/ eliminate seats.
I Miss Al!
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Al is a big reason why attendance is in decline. A decade of awful draft picks, trades and free agent signings turned everyone away.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:08 am
LOL WD. You want him to play an entire season for $1?
February 7th, 2013 at 8:09 am
685.hwnrdr Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 8:01 am
The biggest draw for people to go to the games in most markets is the tailgate experience anyways.
That right there my freind, is the reason why i go year after year!
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@hwnrdr
Seriously, your set up was awesome! You could charge people for that and you should. Great envirorment.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:09 am
If the Raiders are forced to carry McLame, make him work with the scout team and put him thru drill after drill of fullback sweep run plays right down his throat. Rinse/repeat.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:11 am
696.Raider O Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 8:08 am
LOL WD. You want him to play an entire season for $1?
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He is barely worth that. Along with that hefty salary, he should be fined $1000 every time he hits the wrong hole, or can’t shed a block….the Raiders’ revenue would go way up if that were the case.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:11 am
Raider run defense improved considerably once Slolando was given the green tackling dummy helmet.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:11 am
We were 8-8 the last 2 seasons with Al, and attendance improved.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:13 am
Marks hair Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 8:07 am
D12 needs to toughen up
Kobe ripped him, you think he will listen?
February 7th, 2013 at 8:14 am
and if he could learn the simple fundamental of keeping the ball tucked up I near his chin instead of bringing it down where point guards can grab and rip at his arms D12 wouldn’t get hurt over and over.. he would cut about 4 tournovers a game as well.. terrible fundamentals
February 7th, 2013 at 8:14 am
bullit? another injury riddled scrub…maybe he has an ihop connection…
February 7th, 2013 at 8:14 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 8:09 am
685.hwnrdr Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 8:01 am
The biggest draw for people to go to the games in most markets is the tailgate experience anyways.
That right there my freind, is the reason why i go year after year!
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@hwnrdr
Seriously, your set up was awesome! You could charge people for that and you should. Great envirorment.
Thanks Dutch! Anytime you’re wandering around in D Lot before noon, come on by!
February 7th, 2013 at 8:14 am
If DHB refuses a pay cut and we part ways, think about how many years we have been a washout in the first round?
February 7th, 2013 at 8:17 am
I understand that McCrazy is considered a bust so far, but he is young enough to salvage his career. He had good results when rushing the passer, and he has good size, so maybe he can be a 3-4 OLB. Maybe he is not a good fit for 4-3.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:18 am
No. I think hes a pouter. A take his ball and go home kindaguy. he doesnt respond well to criticism. And he seems embarrassed playing so poorly with his injuries. he doesn’t have the fundamentals or the skills to be really effective offensively without his high flying act.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:20 am
Hwnrdr Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 8:03 am
I agree O, kinda…
If McLame DLT is gonna be a cancer, then why keep him around. Good news (maybe) is that there isn’t a peep out of him so far…
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He is not saying much, but he did get arrested again, so….. Who knows bro?
February 7th, 2013 at 8:22 am
Twocents Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 8:03 am
“There is iron in Plunkettheads words.” Ten Beers
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Post of the day (week, even)!
February 7th, 2013 at 8:22 am
Good Morning Raider Nation….
The removal of Mt. Davis is just bringing us closer to Los Angeles or Santa Clara!! The proof is in the pudding!!
I doubt Oakland is willing to spend $$$ on a new stadium, Hayward, Livermore, Pleasanton, San Ramon and Dublin I highly doubt it!!
February 7th, 2013 at 8:22 am
This is from some guy named Wes on another comment board:
“Pull your heads out, look around, and notice that long term, California is not conducive to operating a billion dollar business. Its bad and will only get worse! Get ahead of the curve and move to Las Vegas. There is no downside. No income tax will attract free agents, there is a built-in attraction for players and fans. LA isn’t viable any longer; its just a bigger sink hole than Oakland The Raiders would sellout general admission and luxury boxes the instant the move announced.”
That is the kind of out of the box smart thinking the Raiders need to do!!!!! The Raiders perhaps as much as any NFL teams is “international” with its fan base and a spot like Vegas would make it fun for all us Qakland expatriots to have a place to come watch games. Imagine what it would do for LV with all the people from So Cal coming up for games! Not saying this is going to happen but for the Raiders to become relevant again it may take something like this.
When I think of the Raiders I think of a fan base like Manchester United or Green Bay or the LA Lakers that have fans spread out all over the place. A spot in Vegas would be ideal and there are Hotel Owners that would jump at this just to be able to have a hotel next to that venue and they could upgrade the Vegas Bowl as well.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:24 am
Las Vegas Raiders? Interesting.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:24 am
702.hwnrdr Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 8:13 am
Marks hair Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 8:07 am
D12 needs to toughen up
Kobe ripped him, you think he will listen?
703.Marks hair Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 8:14 am
and if he could learn the simple fundamental of keeping the ball tucked up I near his chin instead of bringing it down where point guards can grab and rip at his arms D12 wouldn’t get hurt over and over.. he would cut about 4 tournovers a game as well.. terrible fundamentals
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I hope he will listen. It is being reported that it is just an issue of pain, it can’t get worse, it will need surgery to fix in the offseason…..so he needs to man up and play.
As to the fundamentals…..absolutely right….the difference between Bynum and Dwight offensively are many, but the big one was Bynum’s ability to catch the ball and go up immediately to the rim without having to pretend he is a PG and dribbling the ball.
I have been staggered by the amount of turnovers that occur whenever the players try and get Dwight the ball….some of it is on entry passes, and that is not his fault, but so many time he is stripped, or dribbles the ball off his foot. Pathetic for a guy who wants to be considered an all-time great.
Give Bynum healthy knees and he would be much better than Dwight. And now Dwight is becoming injury prone too….not sure if he is a guy you can give a max contract too and then win with. Factor in his child-like attitude and the accompanying drama….cap space might be a better fit for the Lakers than having Dwight around.
In the end we really only gave up an equally mercurial center with injury problems of his own, who also does not deserve a max contract, so it will not be devastating if Howard leaves this summer. Kobe’s chances of winning another title would be over, but we could just watch him jack up 50 shots per game next year and then hope we could sign LeBron and Love in 2014.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:25 am
guest123 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 8:14 am
If DHB refuses a pay cut and we part ways, think about how many years we have been a washout in the first round?
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Yeah, but I don’t see him as the “Wimbley” type. I know DHB is a proud man, but you gotta think that he knows where he stands, and no other team is gonna be throwing money at him. He’d be like that 16 year old kid trying to get emancipated from his adopted parents……. He won’t make it on his own. He’ll make the most money and get the most opportunity right here in Oakland.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:29 am
1960AutumnWind Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 8:22 am
This is from some guy named Wes on another comment board:
“Pull your heads out, look around, and notice that long term, California is not conducive to operating a billion dollar business. Its bad and will only get worse! Get ahead of the curve and move to Las Vegas. There is no downside. No income tax will attract free agents, there is a built-in attraction for players and fans. LA isn’t viable any longer; its just a bigger sink hole than Oakland The Raiders would sellout general admission and luxury boxes the instant the move announced.”
That is the kind of out of the box smart thinking the Raiders need to do!!!!! The Raiders perhaps as much as any NFL teams is “international” with its fan base and a spot like Vegas would make it fun for all us Qakland expatriots to have a place to come watch games. Imagine what it would do for LV with all the people from So Cal coming up for games! Not saying this is going to happen but for the Raiders to become relevant again it may take something like this.
When I think of the Raiders I think of a fan base like Manchester United or Green Bay or the LA Lakers that have fans spread out all over the place. A spot in Vegas would be ideal and there are Hotel Owners that would jump at this just to be able to have a hotel next to that venue and they could upgrade the Vegas Bowl as well.
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Raider O Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 8:24 am
Las Vegas Raiders? Interesting.
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I like it…I like it ALOT!
February 7th, 2013 at 8:31 am
Cuz I’m a Raider, Oakland Raider
From the bay to L.A. to Las Vegas
Cuz I’m a playa, a boss playa
and if you wit me pop ya colla shake dem hatas!!!
February 7th, 2013 at 8:32 am
I know DHB is a proud man, but you gotta think that he knows where he stands, and no other team is gonna be throwing money at him. He’d be like that 16 year old kid trying to get emancipated from his adopted parents……. He won’t make it on his own. He’ll make the most money and get the most opportunity right here in Oakland.
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Or he could end up in Baltimore alongside former college teammate Torrey Smith, since they probably don’t want to pay Boldin his expected $6M tag. Ozzie Newsome loved DHB back in the day. I could see this happen. A homecoming for DHB at a discount. win-win
February 7th, 2013 at 8:34 am
pro sports in Vegas? Naw don’t see that happening.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:40 am
Cool, Now I can go to Vegas and watch the Raiders with the boys and my wife can go see Britany Spears with the ladies.
Las Vegas Raiders has a certain ring to it.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:41 am
I like that better than the London Raiders!
February 7th, 2013 at 8:43 am
Tis blog was out of control last night, I didn’t know what site I was on. It certainly wasn’t a Raider blog.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:43 am
*this
February 7th, 2013 at 8:45 am
R-AKA,
You got that right! It was weird. Racism to religion. I dunno what brought that on last night.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:46 am
And Mr. Green was displaying his artwork again.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:46 am
Steelers may cut some key players that interest me.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:48 am
Ahmad Bradshaw is available. I say cut Goodson AND Taiwan to make room for him and sign him ASAP.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:48 am
Wouldn’t mind getting James Harrison for a year or 2.
Perfect example of classic Raider style play.
DA is too much of a pu$$y to want a guy like him unfortunetey.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:50 am
Just Win Baby Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 8:48 am
Ahmad Bradshaw is available. I say cut Goodson AND Taiwan to make room for him and sign him ASAP.
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I thought about it but I wonder about injury concerns as well as what his asking price would be.
If he was reasonable in his demands I would sign him as well.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:50 am
Everyone is cutting players left and right. Where are the Raiders cuts? Someone nudge Reggie.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:51 am
If not Bradshaw, what about Canty?
February 7th, 2013 at 8:56 am
Greetings twocents
My indian name is messy teepee.
I like bcz idea ofhaving big bar/standing area with big TV’s
February 7th, 2013 at 8:58 am
If DMC had someone like Bradshaw to split the touches with, they might both prolong their longevity. Heck, DMC might even be better as the change-up back for Bradshaw. We always have Reece as an insurance policy.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:59 am
What am I going to do with my time when I can no longer watch football in 25 years when it is like a 7 on 7 two hand touch practice drill?
I better start finding some more hobbies now so it will be easier to transition in the future.
At the rate the Raiders are doing things we won’t get to witness another superbowl before the death of football as we know it happens.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:59 am
hwnrdr Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 8:01 am
The biggest draw for people to go to the games in most markets is the tailgate experience anyways.
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It is, and in Oakland the experience declines every year as they separate the parking lot more and more. It is now almost impossible to meet up with friends without staging a meeting place outside the stadium.
Told my ticket rep today I’m out after 15 years. At least it looks like games will be on TV.
February 7th, 2013 at 9:00 am
Bradshaw?
Kinda scary signing Vet backs, they go from elite to done very quickly…
February 7th, 2013 at 9:04 am
This whole “tarp” ordeal should not be taken lightly.
I believe it represents a lot more than just some covered seats.
I truly feel bad for the diehards-myself included.
This once proud franchise is spinning out of control with no solid leadership in many key positions.
I’m going to give Big Reg some time but some of the other clowns are going to set us back Jamarcus style.
February 7th, 2013 at 9:11 am
Vegas will not support a pro team. If the NFL were agreeable the team would have to market to whoever is coming to Vegas that week.
Watch your hometown team play the Vegas Raiders and take your Vegas trip same time.
I think Vegas is worse off then Oakland. There no industry and nothing but cactus and lizards in every direction for hundreds of miles.
Biggest problem = That bathtub full of drinking water just east of town keeps getting lower and lower. I hope they don’t use a particle beam weapon on the dam like they did on the twin towers and blame it on a handful of your everyday average Mo sixpack
February 7th, 2013 at 9:11 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!!!!
Wake and bake Green Party!
February 7th, 2013 at 9:15 am
Biggest problem = That bathtub full of drinking water just east of town keeps getting lower and lower. I hope they don’t use a particle beam weapon on the dam like they did on the twin towers and blame it on a handful of your everyday average Mo sixpack—————————————-
You my friend have lost your mind lol
February 7th, 2013 at 9:17 am
How sad you losers have nowhere else to go but here to post. Look at your valueless selves and end it. (And) please do not breed with unattractive, overweight women (since that is all that is available to you) before offing yourselves.
February 7th, 2013 at 9:18 am
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 8:59 am
What am I going to do with my time when I can no longer watch football in 25 years when it is like a 7 on 7 two hand touch practice drill?
I better start finding some more hobbies now so it will be easier to transition in the future.
At the rate the Raiders are doing things we won’t get to witness another superbowl before the death of football as we know it happens.
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By that time we will all be imprisoned in interment camps by the United Nations robotic army.
February 7th, 2013 at 9:21 am
Just Win Baby Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 9:18 am
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 8:59 am
What am I going to do with my time when I can no longer watch football in 25 years when it is like a 7 on 7 two hand touch practice drill?
I better start finding some more hobbies now so it will be easier to transition in the future.
At the rate the Raiders are doing things we won’t get to witness another superbowl before the death of football as we know it happens.
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By that time we will all be imprisoned in interment camps by the United Nations robotic army.
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I better get the F out of dodge-doomsday prepper style! lol
Actually I guess it’s not funny.
February 7th, 2013 at 9:22 am
alswingman Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 9:17 am
How sad you losers have nowhere else to go but here to post. Look at your valueless selves and end it. (And) please do not breed with unattractive, overweight women (since that is all that is available to you) before offing yourselves.
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It is not necessary to use parentheses around the word ‘and’. Go get a fourth grade education, and then follow your own advice.
February 7th, 2013 at 9:23 am
DMAC Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 9:11 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!!!!
Wake and bake Green Party!
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Well then……
Fk you guys 2 this beautiful, wet, chilly, morning in the O-A-K
February 7th, 2013 at 9:24 am
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 9:15 am
Biggest problem = That bathtub full of drinking water just east of town keeps getting lower and lower. I hope they don’t use a particle beam weapon on the dam like they did on the twin towers and blame it on a handful of your everyday average Mo sixpack—————————————-
You my friend have lost your mind lol
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
ROFL
February 7th, 2013 at 9:24 am
DMAC Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 9:23 am
DMAC Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 9:11 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!!!!
Wake and bake Green Party!
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Well then……
Fk you guys 2 this beautiful, wet, chilly, morning in the O-A-K
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We are about to get 2 feet of snow at my house.
It is supposed to be a possible record breaking blizzard.
Good Morning!
February 7th, 2013 at 9:26 am
Eff you Mr. Prez (Eddie Murphy’s voice and accent from Raw)
Umfufu the bush biotch wants 1/2.
February 7th, 2013 at 9:27 am
DMAC’s FA wish list as of today
RT – Andre Amith
CB – Aqib Talib
WR – Dwane Bowe or go cheaper w/ Hartline
February 7th, 2013 at 9:28 am
“Screw the government.” Col. Wm. Ludlow
February 7th, 2013 at 9:29 am
Raider O Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 9:26 am
Eff you Mr. Prez (Eddie Murphy’s voice and accent from Raw)
Umfufu the bush biotch wants 1/2.
LOL
February 7th, 2013 at 9:29 am
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 9:24 am
DMAC Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 9:23 am
DMAC Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 9:11 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!!!!
Wake and bake Green Party!
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Well then……
Fk you guys 2 this beautiful, wet, chilly, morning in the O-A-K
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We are about to get 2 feet of snow at my house.
It is supposed to be a possible record breaking blizzard.
Good Morning!
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If you have no wifey at home make you find the cutest fat chick out there to cuddle up man.
lol
February 7th, 2013 at 9:30 am
I think the NFL should start an ironman football league in which every NFL team has an ironman team using the same name as the regular team does. When the regular Raiders are playing in Sandy Eggo, the ironman teams would play in Oakland later in the day. Or move the ironman league games to the spring. No regular NFL player gets to play on ironman team and vice versa. The next year ironmen who prove themselves can move to regular team of same name.
February 7th, 2013 at 9:31 am
-Bowe drops a lot of passes and he will demand a huge salary.
-Talib was traded from TB to the Pats because of his attitude, so I doubt our GM and Titty monkey are interested.
Sign A Smith, Volmer, or Loadholt for RT.
February 7th, 2013 at 9:31 am
I’m outta here. Later, all.
February 7th, 2013 at 9:32 am
A sports team in Vegas means the sports books couldn’t take any action on the Raiders (IIRC) at least on home games… maybe not at all? They aren’t moving to Vegas… cool idea though.
February 7th, 2013 at 9:33 am
Raw = Best stand up comedy show ever.
February 7th, 2013 at 9:34 am
Later Scourge.
February 7th, 2013 at 9:35 am
Raider O Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 9:33 am
Raw = Best stand up comedy show ever.
LOL, no…Delirious
February 7th, 2013 at 9:39 am
Hwnrdr Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 9:35 am
Raider O Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 9:33 am
Raw = Best stand up comedy show ever.
LOL, no…Delirious
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Tough to beat for sure. Have you guys seen Jim Gaffigan’s Beyond The Pale?
February 7th, 2013 at 9:40 am
Dr. Rob and Mistic the suppa Busta should just get marrid and call it good. sound like a married couple and are obsessed with each other. we should remind them of this every time the poison this blog with their man crush on each other.
February 7th, 2013 at 9:41 am
Larry Grant? played 4-3 for the rams and was solid andplayed well when p willis was hurt for the niners real solid against the run. Ok, not great against the pass…but few MLB are.
February 7th, 2013 at 9:43 am
Why hasn’t Steve reported the upcoming IHOP buy out of the Raiders? And the new stadium. This is huge beyond huge news. WTF
February 7th, 2013 at 9:43 am
The problem for any sports team is to create enough of an entertainment experience to create new generations of fans.
Both the 49ers and the Raiders have had a whole series of lean years until last year for the Niners. The Raiders had a higher mountain to climb considering their abandonment of their original fan base, their years of chosen exile in LA while the Niners found excellence yet to be matched. The Raiders return to the Bay Area was marred by the horrible personal seat licenses and Al Davis’ constant moaning about adding seats when he should have concentrated on building sustained excellence that would have led to a new stadium, the building of the ugly Mt. Davis that destroyed the Col. for A’s fans, many of whom were part of the Raider fan base, and on and on.
How many toddlers got Xmas presents with Raider gear as opposed to Niner gear?
A two team market can definitely work, but the Raiders and Oakland have to get their stuff together FAST.
As a fan, if there really were a community, as many here have suggested, like Danville, that wouldn’t fight the Raiders settling on land near there, I say go there and go as fast as possible. Your fan base is largely located in Alameda and CCCounties.
February 7th, 2013 at 9:44 am
Tough to beat for sure. Have you guys seen Jim Gaffigan’s Beyond The Pale?
Never heard of him…worth checking out?
February 7th, 2013 at 9:44 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 6th, 2013 at 4:02 pm
dr slob says
“you want things for free”
no i want want payment for the work we have already done.
If a man steals he is charged with restitution, regardless of how long has passed between the actual transgression and when the judgment is levied.
>. nobody stole from YOU suppa busta. the past is the past all you have is NOW. its all in your head.
February 7th, 2013 at 9:46 am
The closing of Mt. Davis is due to imcompetency and impotency on the part of Reg/DA. The IHOP buy out of the Raiders is huge. IHOP is saving this crumbling franchise. Steve, get with the report.
February 7th, 2013 at 9:47 am
Hwnrdr,
It depends. Do you like red or purple leather suites?
February 7th, 2013 at 9:47 am
Hwnrdr Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 9:44 am
Tough to beat for sure. Have you guys seen Jim Gaffigan’s Beyond The Pale?
Never heard of him…worth checking out?
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Oh yes. Just don’t drink or eat anything while watching it. Straight up comedy.
February 7th, 2013 at 9:47 am
Fenna check out Mike Epps on 2morrow at the paramount.
February 7th, 2013 at 9:48 am
IHOP to the rescue. Reg/DA loyalty to the IHOP has paid off.
February 7th, 2013 at 9:49 am
TBB,
No, but I’m googling it. Googling is a word?
You People….
February 7th, 2013 at 9:50 am
Raider O Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 9:47 am
Hwnrdr,
It depends. Do you like red or purple leather suites?
Hahaha! The color of the suit didn’t make me laugh harder during Delirious…it’s just my opinion between the 2 bro!
February 7th, 2013 at 9:50 am
You guys think Donald Driver has anything left in the tank?
February 7th, 2013 at 9:50 am
The Big Banana Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 9:47 am
Hwnrdr Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 9:44 am
Tough to beat for sure. Have you guys seen Jim Gaffigan’s Beyond The Pale?
Never heard of him…worth checking out?
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Oh yes. Just don’t drink or eat anything while watching it. Straight up comedy.
Thanks Banana!
February 7th, 2013 at 9:51 am
Reg/DA dumb down the seating capacity. Why?
One, they don’t know how to put a winning team on the field and thus can’t fill the stadium
Two, they don’t want to put a winning team on the field to fill the stadium
Reg/DA are so lucky they IHOP buy out of the Raiders is coming just in time. IHOP is saving this rotting franchise. We are so lucky.
February 7th, 2013 at 9:51 am
DMAC Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 9:50 am
You guys think Donald Driver has anything left in the tank?
Do you think he’ll come out of retirement to play for another team?
February 7th, 2013 at 9:51 am
Please support your local IHOP
February 7th, 2013 at 9:51 am
hwnrdr Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 9:51 am
DMAC Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 9:50 am
You guys think Donald Driver has anything left in the tank?
Do you think he’ll come out of retirement to play for another team?
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He retired?
Didn’t know that
February 7th, 2013 at 9:53 am
Say IHOP everyone. It is going to be a everyday word.
IHOP FIELD STADIUM, HOUSE OF THE OAKLAND RAIDERS
February 7th, 2013 at 9:54 am
i’m thinking the ihop thing is pretty lame.
February 7th, 2013 at 9:57 am
If we go 3-4 i want to sign ILB Dannell Ellerbe.
Shouldn’t come with a heavy price tag.
February 7th, 2013 at 9:57 am
DMAC Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 9:51 am
hwnrdr Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 9:51 am
DMAC Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 9:50 am
You guys think Donald Driver has anything left in the tank?
Do you think he’ll come out of retirement to play for another team?
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He retired?
Didn’t know that
Yeah, right after the SB he made his announcement, which to many wasn’t surprising…
February 7th, 2013 at 9:57 am
Interesting comment on the state of two sport franchises and the decay of the fanbase. I agree with most of it, but it makes no sense to go back and bash Al Davis now. What’s done is done. I don’t think the township of Danville want the Raider circus in their backyard either. The cons far outweigh the pros.
The solution is right there in a huge tract of land around the OA coliseum. Land isn’t an issue. Only the money is an issue. But a smart investor would work with the city to get as much support and $$ possible as a joint venture. Still makes the most sense in the world to stay right there in Oakland.
February 7th, 2013 at 9:59 am
When does FA kick off?
February 7th, 2013 at 9:59 am
dr_robert Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 9:54 am
i’m thinking the ihop thing is pretty lame.
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So is you and Mistic goin on and on and on and on.
But when IHOP buys out the Raiders and spends money on decent FAs and finances a new stadium, you probably won’t feel that way. You’ll turn into a loyal IHOP supporter, like me. I’m thankful for what IHOP is going to do for my beloved team. Nobody else is or has.
February 7th, 2013 at 10:01 am
IHOP & applebees can’t tell them apart, both a half rung above denny’s crap restaurants.
February 7th, 2013 at 10:05 am
785.DMAC Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 9:59 am
When does FA kick off?
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Another month or so. I believe the new league year starts on 3/4 so it should be around then.
February 7th, 2013 at 10:06 am
International House of Pancakes Coliseum…hmm, kinda catchy!
February 7th, 2013 at 10:06 am
bcz24 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 10:05 am
785.DMAC Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 9:59 am
When does FA kick off?
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Another month or so. I believe the new league year starts on 3/4 so it should be around then.
Yup and that is when all teams must be under the cap..I think FA starts on the 12th!
February 7th, 2013 at 10:07 am
NFL Calendar
Feb. 9-10 – Regional combine, Oregon Coast College – Lebard Stadium (Los Angeles)
Feb. 16-17 – Regional combine, Methodist training center (Houston)
Feb. 17 – Regional combine, Cleveland Browns training facility (Cleveland)
Feb. 18-March 4 – Franchise Tag designation begins: Teams can place Franchise Tags on players.
Feb. 20-26 – NFL Combine (Indianapolis)
Feb. 23 – NFL Combine: Tight ends, offensive linemen, special teams
Feb. 24 – NFL Combine: Quarterbacks, running backs, wide receivers
Feb. 25 – NFL Combine: Defensive linemen, linebackers
Feb. 26 – NFL Combine: Defensive backs
March 1 – Pro Days: Purdue, Texas-El Paso
March 2-3 Regional combine, Atlantic Health Jets training facility (New York/New Jersey)
March 4 – Franchise Tag designation deadline. Deadline for placing a Franchise Tag on a player. Teams can now negotiate multi-year contracts with tagged players through July 15.
March 4 – Pro Days: Alabama-Birmingham, Alcorn, Minnesota, North Dakota State, Troy
March 5 – Pro Days: Alabama State, Auburn, Buffalo, Jackson State, Northwestern, Southern Mississippi, Youngstown State
March 6 – Pro Days: Alabama A&M, Mississippi State, North Alabama, South Florida
March 7 – Pro Days: Arizona, Central Arkansas, Clemson, Furman, Illinois, Miami (Fla.), Mississippi, Missouri, New Mexico, Syracuse, Washington State
March 8 – Pro Days: Florida Atlantic, Florida International, Montana, TCU, Texas A&M
March 9-11 – Negotiate with UFAs: Clubs are permitted to enter into contract negotiations with certified agents of players who will be Unrestricted Free Agents at the end of the current League Year.
March 9 – Regional combine, One Buccaneer Place (Tampa, Fla.)
March 10 – Regional Combine, Halas Hall (Chicago)
March 11 – Pro Days: California (Pa.), Penn State
March 12 – Pro Days: Delaware State, Florida, Jacksonville State, Lehigh, Towson, Sacramento State, UCLA
March 12 – Deadline to Tender RFAs, and exercise contract options: Prior to 4:00 p.m., New York time:
Clubs must exercise options for 2013 on all players who have option clauses in their 2012 contracts.
Clubs must submit Qualifying Offers to their Restricted Free Agents with expiring contracts and to whom they desire to retain a Right of First Refusal/Compensation.
Clubs must submit a minimum salary offer to retain exclusive negotiating rights to their players with expiring 2012 contracts and who have fewer than three seasons of free agency credit.
March 12 – All 2012 player contracts expire at 4:00 p.m., New York time.
March 12 – 2013 League Year, Free Agency, Trading and Top-51 Salary Cap Begin.
The 2013 League Year and Free Agency period begin at 4:00 p.m., New York time.
All clubs must be under the Salary Cap prior to 4:00 p.m., New York time. Only the top 51 contracts on the roster count at this point.
Trading period begins at 4:00 p.m., New York time, for 2013 after expiration of all 2012 contracts.
March 13 – Pro Days: Alabama, Colorardo State, Louisiana-Monroe, Marshall, Michigan State, Oklahoma, Rutgers
March 14 – Pro Days: Georgia Tech, North Carolina State, Tulsa, UNLV, West Alabama
March 16-17 – Regional combine, Atlanta Falcons training facility (Atlanta)
March 17-20 – Compensatory Draft Picks awarded at annual owner’s meeting in Arizona.
March 18 – Pro Days: Air Force, Howard, Valdosta State
March 19 – Pro Days: Florida A&M, Florida State, Louisville, Richmond (with Liberty), Virginia
March 20 – Pro Days: Ball State, Central Florida, Tennessee
March 21 – Pro Days: Boise State, Eastern Kentucky, Georgia, Kentucky, Stanford
March 22 – Pro Days: Missouri Western, Tennessee State, Vanderbilt
March 23-24 – Regional combine, VMAC (Seattle)
March 23-24 – Regional combine, Under Armour Performance Center (Baltimore)
March 25 – Pro Days: Middle Tennessee State
March 26 – Pro Days: McNeese State, North Carolina Central, Texas
March 27 – Pro Days: LSU, Louisiana Tech, SMU, USC
March 28 – Pro Days: BYU, Coastal Carolina, East Carolina, Louisiana-Lafayette, Yale
April 7-8 Super regional combine, Cowboys Stadium (Dallas)
April 25-27 – NFL Draft, New York City, New York
February 7th, 2013 at 10:11 am
May 20-22 – NFL Spring League Meeting, Hyatt-Harborside, Boston, Massachusetts.
July 15 – Franchise Tag deadline: The period for negotiating multi-year contracts with a Franchise Tagged player ends.
Late July – Training Camps begin
September 5, 8-9 – NFL Kickoff 2013
February 7th, 2013 at 10:12 am
IHOP
February 7th, 2013 at 10:12 am
Thanx for the info
February 7th, 2013 at 10:13 am
Tentative Franchise and Transition tag values per NFL.com:
CB: Franchise: $10.668 Transition: $8.939
DE: Franchise: $10.984 Transition: $8.994
DT: Franchise: $8.306 Transition: $6.919
K/P: Franchise: $2.926 Transition: $2.654
LB: Franchise: $9.455 Transition: $8.216
OL: Franchise: $9.660 Transition: $8.560
QB: Franchise: $14.642 Transition: $12.845
RB: Franchise: $8.079 Transition: $6.851
S: Franchise: $6.798 Transition: $5.899
TE: Franchise: $5.962 Transition: $5.105
WR: Franchise: $10.357 Transition: $8.716
February 7th, 2013 at 10:17 am
Let’s bring up an interesting topic….
What are your thoughts about Kelly? I’ve heard mix thoughts.
Some people are done w/ this guy and others want him around still.
Whats your take?
February 7th, 2013 at 10:18 am
I wouldn’t mind TK staying, as a rotational guy, not a starter, making rotational cash, like vet min with some incentives.
February 7th, 2013 at 10:21 am
Cut TK. We can not afford to pay that kind of money to a penalty machine who takes too many plays off.
February 7th, 2013 at 10:25 am
bcz24 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 10:18 am
I wouldn’t mind TK staying, as a rotational guy, not a starter, making rotational cash, like vet min with some incentives.
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Thats exactly the way I feel.
Don’t think it will happen tho
February 7th, 2013 at 10:25 am
Guest123 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 10:13 am
Tentative Franchise and Transition tag values per NFL.com:
CB: Franchise: $10.668 Transition: $8.939
DE: Franchise: $10.984 Transition: $8.994
DT: Franchise: $8.306 Transition: $6.919
K/P: Franchise: $2.926 Transition: $2.654
LB: Franchise: $9.455 Transition: $8.216
OL: Franchise: $9.660 Transition: $8.560
QB: Franchise: $14.642 Transition: $12.845
RB: Franchise: $8.079 Transition: $6.851
S: Franchise: $6.798 Transition: $5.899
TE: Franchise: $5.962 Transition: $5.105
WR: Franchise: $10.357 Transition: $8.716
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So QBs, DEs, CBs, and WRs are all over $10 million. I wonder why?
And you people want to upgrade the LT position, and some of you want us to draft an OG?!
We need DEs and CBs.
February 7th, 2013 at 10:26 am
Sometime I fk’n hate TK, but sometimes I think he can really be good.
February 7th, 2013 at 10:26 am
Yeah, I’d cut Kelly already. Whatever his best was he’s already given the Raiders and it wasn’t enough. If we are to build an identity, we need to move on from guys like him who have a limited motor. Even as a rotational cheap guy, I think we can upgrade with a mid draft pick for depth.
February 7th, 2013 at 10:28 am
So QBs, DEs, CBs, and WRs are all over $10 million. I wonder why?
And you people want to upgrade the LT position, and some of you want us to draft an OG?!
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Well now OL franchise is $9.6 mill, there are 160 starting olineman in the NFL, 32 starting QBs. The disparity in the average salary comes from the vastly larger pool of players.
February 7th, 2013 at 10:28 am
CB: Franchise: $10.668 Transition: $8.939
DE: Franchise: $10.984 Transition: $8.994
DT: Franchise: $8.306 Transition: $6.919
K/P: Franchise: $2.926 Transition: $2.654
LB: Franchise: $9.455 Transition: $8.216
OL: Franchise: $9.660 Transition: $8.560
QB: Franchise: $14.642 Transition: $12.845
RB: Franchise: $8.079 Transition: $6.851
S: Franchise: $6.798 Transition: $5.899
TE: Franchise: $5.962 Transition: $5.105
WR: Franchise: $10.357 Transition: $8.716
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And some want to argue that the game hasn’t changed and its not a pass happy league.
Highest paid positions: QBs, DEs, CBs, and WRs.
February 7th, 2013 at 10:28 am
We need DEs and CBs.
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I agree. But since there are not any CB’s worth drafting early, and several good DE’s, take your pick. I dont care which one. But pick a DE.
February 7th, 2013 at 10:28 am
We need a RT people!
We are set at LT!
Leave Veldy alone already. He’s been our most consistent linemen.
Sign Andre “lost my tits” Smith!!!
February 7th, 2013 at 10:30 am
741.alswingman Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 9:17 am
How sad you losers have nowhere else to go but here to post. Look at your valueless selves and end it. (And) please do not breed with unattractive, overweight women (since that is all that is available to you) before offing yourselves.
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You’re gonna have to be nicer than that if u want us to keep visiting your blog…which I enjoyed incidentally.
February 7th, 2013 at 10:30 am
If Carson’s contract is putting the Raiders in the same position next season as well, we must cut him. He may be our best player, but ur is holding the team back. We absolutely must get rid of McClain, Kelly, renegotiate DHB, Tollefson, Brisiel or cut them as well.
February 7th, 2013 at 10:31 am
guest123 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 10:28 am
We need DEs and CBs.
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I agree. But since there are not any CB’s worth drafting early, and several good DE’s, take your pick. I dont care which one. But pick a DE.
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You dont like Dee?
February 7th, 2013 at 10:31 am
Kelly is the one idiot you can always to count on to jump offsides on third and four. At least Seymour bats down a pass or blocks a kick every now and then. Next to Shane Lechler, Kelly is the most expendable player on this team.
February 7th, 2013 at 10:32 am
Bcz24 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 10:28 am
So QBs, DEs, CBs, and WRs are all over $10 million. I wonder why?
And you people want to upgrade the LT position, and some of you want us to draft an OG?!
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Well now OL franchise is $9.6 mill, there are 160 starting olineman in the NFL, 32 starting QBs. The disparity in the average salary comes from the vastly larger pool of players.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Good point, but its a fact that the highest paid positions in football are QB, LT, DE, CB, and WR.
February 7th, 2013 at 10:32 am
When is Reggie gonna start cutting people? The Giants are already doing it.
February 7th, 2013 at 10:32 am
Biggest problem = That bathtub full of drinking water just east of town keeps getting lower and lower. I hope they don’t use a particle beam weapon on the dam like they did on the twin towers and blame it on a handful of your everyday average Mo sixpack—————————————-
You my friend have lost your mind
Lake Mead is getting lower.
9/11 was blamed on a handful of Islam terrorists.
I dunno about a particle beam nonetheless I refuse to believe both towers pancaked in a controlled demolition from airplanes hitting them.
But I am plum crazy, I admit that
IHOP use to make the best cheese blintzes on the planet
February 7th, 2013 at 10:33 am
If Carson’s contract is putting the Raiders in the same position next season as well, we must cut him
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Carson’s contract isn’t hurting us for next year. If he plays out this season well enough to earn the spot on the ‘14 team then his number will be worth it, if he doesn’t the cap in 14 to cut him will be 3.68 mill. No big deal in the grancd scheme
February 7th, 2013 at 10:33 am
I agree. But since there are not any CB’s worth drafting early, and several good DE’s, take your pick. I dont care which one. But pick a DE.
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You dont like Dee?
^^^^^^^^^
Only if we trade down.
February 7th, 2013 at 10:35 am
The Giants? Where have you been?
Reg is waiting for the Packers to cut loose with some all stars
February 7th, 2013 at 10:36 am
797.bcz24 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 10:18 am
I wouldn’t mind TK staying, as a rotational guy, not a starter, making rotational cash, like vet min with some incentives.
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Seems like Kelly is part of the old problem of players not giving their all and playing stupid. I wouldn’t mind seeing us just walk away from that turd.
Same with Huff.
Same with Seymour.
Same with Branch.
Not sure if it would work under the cap, but it would be nice to cut the losers with the loser attitudes out of the locker room (as to Huff and Kelly) and also get rid of the overpaid underachievers like (Seymour and Branch).
February 7th, 2013 at 10:36 am
Unless the Pack does a what the heck and cut Rodgers, i hope Reg is not looking there again…but…
February 7th, 2013 at 10:38 am
I wouldn’t be mad if we cut CP3
Draft Geno w/ our 1st pick and snatch the Honeybadger in the 3rd.
Real talk!
February 7th, 2013 at 10:40 am
Mock Drafts:
Kiper’s:
1- Joeckel
2- Moore
3- Star
4- milliner
5- JJ
McShay’s:
1- Star
2- Werner
3- Milliner
4- Joeckel
5- Jordan
Walter:
1- Geno Smith
2- Star
3- Moore
4-Joeckel
5- Werner
February 7th, 2013 at 10:44 am
RaiderO,
If your point is that this is a passing league, and DE’s are so important, then logic dictates that OT’s are still pretty damned important too lol. If everyone is coming after your QB, and you are passing way more than you are throwing don’t you think a good LT is important?
JV is okay at LT, Joeckel would be a stud LT, and JV will be just as good at RT. One pick improves two positions.
If there was a good QB, WR or CB that is deserving of a top 3 pick, then fine, but Geno, Millinar are not worthy, and the WR position is pretty thin in this draft.
You can only work with what is on the table, and the best players at the top of the draft are at DT, DE and LT.
You go for need when drafting in the top ten, you pick BPA and who cares how it affects the mediocre talent currently playing the same position on your team. It would be different if we had a star at LT or DT and we could afford to reach a little on a different position, but we are not in that position right now.
February 7th, 2013 at 10:47 am
Meant to say this:
You DON’T go for need when drafting in the top ten, you pick BPA and who cares how it affects the mediocre talent currently playing the same position on your team. It would be different if we had a star at LT or DT and we could afford to reach a little on a different position, but we are not in that position right now.
February 7th, 2013 at 10:47 am
JV is okay at LT, Joeckel would be a stud LT, and JV will be just as good at RT. One pick improves two positions.
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Or he can be the next Gallery.
February 7th, 2013 at 10:48 am
Some of you guys on this blog are beyond clueless….It’s like I’m watching a bunch of remedial English comprehension students talk about redevelopment, politics, and sports all jumbled together. IHOP stadiums? The team moving to LA? Gimme a break.
The Raiders are staying in Oakland. They want to stay, the City of Oakland wants them to stay, and the NFL wants them to stay! The plan is called Coliseum City. It will be similar to LA Live and the Raiders will be the first anchor tenant. What proof do we have that this is more likely than not going to happen?
Proof #1
1)The Raiders are buying up properties adjacent to the current Coliseum so that the new stadium can be built at the current site. Geniuses, large business and corporations begin buying up properties in a certain area because they intend to start building projects of their own at that location.
Levi Damien reports:
“The work the Raiders have been doing tell of a team determined to stay in Oakland. And with the fans on board, they can do it.
Not only does the team want to stay in Oakland, they want the stadium to stay right where it is.
“The current site is the focus,” said Trask. “Our hope, our desire is a new stadium at that site.” She cites the accessibility to transportation services as the primary reason for this. The 880 Freeway, BART train, Amtrak, and the soon-to-be finished AirBART express to the Oakland International Airport (which is also right up the street) are all extremely important reasons for keeping the Coliseum at its current location.
The Raiders are not simply waiting until the lease is up to see what happens either. They continue to buy up local businesses so they can follow through with the plans which were put in place last year around this time.”
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2013/2/6/3961526/amy-trask-says-oakland-raiders-still-working-to-ensure-new-coliseum-in-existing-site
Now how some of you guys are trying to spin this to mean anything other than what it says is utterly ridiculous. Pathetic.
February 7th, 2013 at 10:51 am
actually I agreed with your first take. You DO go for need and combine that with BPA. Obviously we have a number of needs so it’s not like taking a player at need wont necessarily jive with BPA. Depending on if we stay at #3 or trade down, we can fill one or more holes with this strategy.
But I think it’s a mistake to ignore need or consider it less important in the top 10. Teams that draft BPA tend to end up in the top of the draft again and again. Teams that shore up key weaknesses turn it around much quicker.
February 7th, 2013 at 10:54 am
Dakota Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 10:44 am
RaiderO,
If your point is that this is a passing league, and DE’s are so important, then logic dictates that OT’s are still pretty damned important too lol. If everyone is coming after your QB, and you are passing way more than you are throwing don’t you think a good LT is important?
JV is okay at LT, Joeckel would be a stud LT, and JV will be just as good at RT. One pick improves two positions.
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1- I never said LTs are not important, I did list them as one of the highest paid positions in the league, and I did say “upgrade” the LT position.
2- you are assuming he will be a stud and an upgrade, but the draft is still a gamble. I rather gamble on a need position like DE, CB, or DT than gamble trying to upgrade a solid “OK” position.
3- JD was a LT in college and the NFL, and you are making another assumption that he can play RT.
Too many assumptions and risk to upgrade an “OK” position? I don’t like that bro.
February 7th, 2013 at 10:56 am
You don’t draft a RT at #3 overall, do you? I think that’s nuts. We need a DE in the worst way. Many good and worthy choices in this draft.
February 7th, 2013 at 10:56 am
The good thing about the position we are in, is the BPA WILL fit a position of need, no matter who it is!
February 7th, 2013 at 10:58 am
The Raiders are staying in Oakland…
Proof #2
The City of Oakland and the Raiders are working TOGETHER to build a new stadium on the current site. Yes folks, you read it correctly…TOGETHER! The City of Oakland is not hiding from the Raiders or vice versa. They are working together to make Coliseum City a reality.
The City of Oakland has just spent 1 million dollars to draw up stadium proposals for Coliseum City with the Raiders being the anchor tenant. And the Raiders HELPED FOOT THE BILL! Yeah that’s what corporations and businesses do when they are trying to leave town right?
Paul Rosynsky, Oakland Tribune reports:
“Dubbed “Coliseum City,” the proposal calls for a construction of an entertainment and sports district on the 1,000 acres of land where the O.co Coliseum and Oracle Arena now stand.
The project models itself after the vibrant L.A. Live development in downtown Los Angeles anchored by Staples Arena that houses three professional sports teams. The development also has several entertainment options including a theater, restaurants and bars.”
http://www.insidebayarea.com/breaking-news/ci_22453012/coliseum-authority-study-plans-new-oakland-raiders-football
Are talks looking promising…
Again Levi Damien reports:
“The team will meet with city officials next week to discuss the status of the new stadium proposal.”
Again, some of you clowns have spun this to somehow mean that the Raiders are secretly plotting or are somehow determined to move to LA. Beyond pathetic.
February 7th, 2013 at 10:58 am
I wonder if we’ll stick to our 4-3 base?
February 7th, 2013 at 11:00 am
Again, some of you clowns have spun this to somehow mean that the Raiders are secretly plotting or are somehow determined to move to LA. Beyond pathetic.
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Not me
I had the inside scoop a while back from my playuh patna Brian.
February 7th, 2013 at 11:00 am
When you have as many needs as we do, I’m almost sure the BPA will satisfy one of our needs like DT, DE, CB, or LB.
Joeckel is one of the best prospects this year, but is he a better prospect than Star or Moore (20 yo)? I don’t think so (people including the experts have different opinions), so I would draft Star or Moore.
February 7th, 2013 at 11:01 am
Bcz24 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 10:56 am
The good thing about the position we are in, is the BPA WILL fit a position of need, no matter who it is!
$$$$$$$$$$$$$
I agree
LOL
February 7th, 2013 at 11:03 am
The Raiders are staying in Oakland…
Proof #2 The NFL WANTS THE RAIDERS TO STAY IN OAKLAND AND HAS MONEY AVAILABLE TO ASSIST.
Commissioner Goodell said clearly that the NFL has 200 million to assist the Raiders with a new stadium in OAKLAND.
“NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell said Thursday the league is willing to contribute funding to help build a stadium in Oakland to keep the Raiders in town.
The NFL already contributed $200 million to help fund a new stadium for the San Francisco 49ers in Santa Clara. Goodell said the league also would be able to fund a stadium for the Raiders if a deal was reached.
There has been speculation the Raiders could move back to Los Angeles if they don’t get their stadium situation resolved in the Bay Area. Goodell said there is nothing new on moving a team to Los Angeles, and it would take a three-quarters league vote for it to happen.”
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000107042/article/roger-goodell-nfl-would-help-fund-oakland-raiders-stadium
February 7th, 2013 at 11:04 am
DMAC Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 10:58 am
I wonder if we’ll stick to our 4-3 base?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$
I think so. We don’t have a NT, OLBs that can hold the edge and rush the passer, and 2 ILBs.
Who knows what will happen after the draft and FA.
February 7th, 2013 at 11:04 am
If you could only have one, which would it be – a great offense or a great defense? Which combinations bodes best for us – a mediocre defense with a great offense or a mediocre offense with a great defense?
Which way do you think the Raiders will go? No, you can’t pick a mediocre offense with a mediocre defense. In 2013, the Raiders will have to have one or the other.
February 7th, 2013 at 11:04 am
Excuse my ignorance
WTF is BPA?
February 7th, 2013 at 11:05 am
Best Player Available.
February 7th, 2013 at 11:07 am
Strange that after 7/8 sellouts they reduce capacity.
MEMO to Reggie, a winning product will reduce blackouts.
February 7th, 2013 at 11:08 am
Draft Need over BPA right down the line.
BPA over Need only works in fantasy football.
February 7th, 2013 at 11:08 am
Raider O Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 11:05 am
Best Player Available.
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Gracias carnal
February 7th, 2013 at 11:08 am
Bcz24 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 10:56 am
The good thing about the position we are in, is the BPA WILL fit a position of need, no matter who it is!
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+1
February 7th, 2013 at 11:08 am
MB
Whats up
February 7th, 2013 at 11:10 am
I would pick a great defense. Your team will always be competitive and you might get lucky and get some mileage unexpectedly from the offense. But a bad defense affects even the best offenses negatively. A bad defense spills over into all 3 facets of the game.
February 7th, 2013 at 11:11 am
Now that Mt. Davis is shut down, I won’t be able to purchase my cheap tix and move on down to a great seat.
February 7th, 2013 at 11:12 am
Always pick the BPA. If you are loaded there (are we loaded anywhere?), you trade back if at all possible. If not, you weigh it against your need. If the needed player is not that far off from BPA, pick him. If he is, still pick BPA and maybe trade him or the guy he’s replacing.
February 7th, 2013 at 11:14 am
All I know is whomever we select in the 1st round, he better start, contribute, and make our team better.
Don’t fk this up Reggie!
February 7th, 2013 at 11:14 am
Jacksonville going to the ZBS system
February 7th, 2013 at 11:15 am
Did GB pick for need when they selected Rodgers?
February 7th, 2013 at 11:15 am
Don’t fk this up Reggie!
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no la jodes Reggie!
February 7th, 2013 at 11:15 am
Hey DMAC, not much just tryin to look busy waiting for lunch.
February 7th, 2013 at 11:16 am
The Big Banana Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 11:15 am
Did GB pick for need when they selected Rodgers?
I think GB was thrilled that he landed to them, knowing that Favre was closing in on his end!
February 7th, 2013 at 11:17 am
MistaBrown Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 11:15 am
Hey DMAC, not much just tryin to look busy waiting for lunch.
LOL, I know what you mean!
February 7th, 2013 at 11:17 am
guest123 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 11:15 am
Don’t fk this up Reggie!
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no la jodes Reggie!
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no la cagues Reggie!!
February 7th, 2013 at 11:18 am
MistaBrown Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 11:15 am
Hey DMAC, not much just tryin to look busy waiting for lunch.
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lol
Nice game plan
Me 2
February 7th, 2013 at 11:18 am
Hwn, hows it goin.
I wont bash the Lakers until you leave.
GO W’s
February 7th, 2013 at 11:18 am
846.
disagree. not so easy to play musical chairs with talent and move them around. not in this salary cap era. contracts nowadays aren’t so flexible and you cant have too many eggs or dollars in one basket/position. if this were the previous era, id agree with you. but the cap puts a strain on how and where you spend your money. BPA is a myth. Draft for need and hopefully get BPA.
February 7th, 2013 at 11:23 am
A sports team in Vegas means the sports books couldn’t take any action on the Raiders (IIRC) at least on home games… maybe not at all?
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Why?? You can bet on UNLV at every casino.
The only times you couldn’t bet on games is at the Palms and the NBA (because of the Maloof’s) or like when the Orleans holds a colllege hoops tourney, you couldn’t bet at the Orleans on those specific games.
February 7th, 2013 at 11:27 am
FA wish list as of today
One of these guys should be signed
RT – Andre Smith
ILB – Dannell Ellerbe
CB – Talib
WR – Hartline
February 7th, 2013 at 11:28 am
Werent the magoofs trying to bring their NBA team to vegas? I think it’s possible to have a team there. just not sure vegas would support it, they seem like LA and have many other distractions/attractions that could make pro sports an afterthought if the right venue came along. what other reasons dont they have for vegas pro sports other than gambling?
February 7th, 2013 at 11:29 am
http://www.nflcombine.net/players/official-invite-list
Official combine invite list
February 7th, 2013 at 11:30 am
The Maloof’s are going broke.
The Palms is failing, and they already sold their daddy’s beer business to save the Palms, and then still had to sell 90+% of it.
February 7th, 2013 at 11:31 am
Titans hired Gregg Williams
February 7th, 2013 at 11:31 am
Guest. It is better to be loaded at a certain position than to be serviceable at multiple positions. You can ALWAYS find teams desperate at a certain position. You parlay that star into high draft picks or the player you need.
February 7th, 2013 at 11:33 am
You draft for value in the 1st round, over anything else.
If you are picking 3rd, you HAVE TO get the top-flight prospect at their position.
You can’t draft Moore or Werner, with them arguably the 3rd or 4th best prospect at their position.
Geno, Star or Warmack should be our board.
February 7th, 2013 at 11:34 am
839.MistaBrown Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 11:07 am
Strange that after 7/8 sellouts they reduce capacity.
MEMO to Reggie, a winning product will reduce blackouts.
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1. This isn’t Reggie’s decision, it is Amy’s
2. The club would rather eliminate 10,000 seats than give away 10,000 free tickets with 2 for 1’s
3. The club doesn’t want to use the 85% exemption in order to have the games televised locally, as the NFL gets a larger portion of the shared revenue.
February 7th, 2013 at 11:34 am
MistaBrown Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 11:18 am
Hwn, hows it goin.
I wont bash the Lakers until you leave.
GO W’s
LOL…its all good MB! I already know that without Gasol, and Howard not wanting to come back until fully healed (and Sacaree or whatever his name is playing like crap) that this may be the one in 19 years that they will miss the playoffs!
As for the W’s…I hope they rebound from the last 2 nights…that Houston game was horrible!
February 7th, 2013 at 11:35 am
I wonder what player position drafted has produced the most busts in the league?
WR?
February 7th, 2013 at 11:36 am
859.DMAC Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 11:27 am
FA wish list as of today
One of these guys should be signed
RT – Andre Smith
ILB – Dannell Ellerbe
CB – Talib
WR – Hartline
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Not one of those guys is getting out of their current cities without a contract.
February 7th, 2013 at 11:37 am
Not to mention Tarping off Mt Davis allows the Raiders to lay off a percentage of the game day staff, ushers, maintenance, etc. and is a marginal cost cutting move.
February 7th, 2013 at 11:39 am
You can’t draft Moore or Werner, with them arguably the 3rd or 4th best prospect at their position.
Geno, Star or Warmack should be our board.
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That’s just it. That is your board. I could argue the same about those 3 in that while they are BPA, it’s a considerably lesser value position or there is a severe lack of competition and so they are all overrated for their draft stock.
February 7th, 2013 at 11:39 am
POST-866,MORE PEOPLE MEANS MORE BEER/FOOD SALES.I CAN SEE IT BOTH WAYS THOUGH..
February 7th, 2013 at 11:40 am
bcz24 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 11:36 am
859.DMAC Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 11:27 am
FA wish list as of today
One of these guys should be signed
RT – Andre Smith
ILB – Dannell Ellerbe
CB – Talib
WR – Hartline
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Not one of those guys is getting out of their current cities without a contract.
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Smith already cashed in w/ the Bengals.
Ellerbe may stay.
We all know Patriots go cheap w/ their secondary. Talib may not come back.
Hartline probably stays put, but he would def. be nice here.
2 outta 4 walk IMO
February 7th, 2013 at 11:40 am
Sounds like we won’t go with the 85% rule this year? If we do, wow!
February 7th, 2013 at 11:41 am
a fitting tarp design would be the black shield with the big bold letters “AL” over Mt Davis
February 7th, 2013 at 11:42 am
After Ray Lewis retiring and just winning a SB, Ellerbee is not going anywhere! He is believed to be Ray’s replacement as D leader (him and Suggs)!
February 7th, 2013 at 11:44 am
New England will not offer Talib much if any of a contract.
Jackie MacMullen said the team was massively frustrated with his work ethic last season after trading for him.
February 7th, 2013 at 11:46 am
CB is the number 1 position of need for NE, and losing Talib is the only reason they didn’t beat Baltimore (their receivers exploded when Talib left the game). No way he leaves.
Ellerbe is the heir apparent (on of them anyways) to Ray Lewis, they will definitely not let him walk.
Hartline is the best receiver in MIA, and with Welker, Bowe, Jennings, Amendola hitting the market Hartline wont get the interest on the market and will stay.
Smith could leave, but I can’t see a playoff team letting a stout olineman walk.
My opinion.
February 7th, 2013 at 11:46 am
The Big Banana Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 11:15 am
Did GB pick for need when they selected Rodgers?
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At the time they picked him, it was widely believed that Favre only had a year or two left in the tank. Nobody predicted he’d play as long as he did at that level.
February 7th, 2013 at 11:47 am
New England gave up a 4th rounder for Talib. I agree he’s not going anywhere.
February 7th, 2013 at 11:47 am
Sal Pal had a taped interview on SVP talking about where VIck would land if Philly cuts him.
He said Buffalo may have a little interest, that HE KNOWS AZ and Arians has no interest….then threw out one team.
Oakland…the “land of misfit toys” as he called us.
February 7th, 2013 at 11:48 am
875.guest123 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 11:41 am
a fitting tarp design would be the black shield with the big bold letters “AL” over Mt Davis
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With and ad for McDonald’s Cheesburgers and KFC coleslaw?
February 7th, 2013 at 11:49 am
lol
February 7th, 2013 at 11:49 am
Here’s an article on the Pats and Talib. Word is Bellicheck can’t stand him.
http://www.csnne.com/football-new-england-patriots/patriots-talk/Source-Pats-concerned-how-Talib-would-re?blockID=829165&feedID=3352
February 7th, 2013 at 11:50 am
No one listens to Sal Pal anymore. Even the locals ignore him.
February 7th, 2013 at 11:51 am
Talib is a bad character. Not that belicheat is a sweetheart himself. Not surprising.
February 7th, 2013 at 11:53 am
880.guest123 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 11:47 am
New England gave up a 4th rounder for Talib. I agree he’s not going anywhere.
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It isn’t the draft pick. If they lose Talib they will get at least a 4th rounder back in a compensatory. NE was struck out badly in recent years in drafting DB’s, they can’t afford to let the best one they got walk. I think as it is they are going to be after at least 1 CB and 1 safety in the draft.
February 7th, 2013 at 11:53 am
guest123 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 11:47 am
New England gave up a 4th rounder for Talib. I agree he’s not going anywhere.
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He’s not a restricted FA
Maybe he doesn’t want to be there
He’ll test the waters
February 7th, 2013 at 11:54 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 11:47 am
Sal Pal had a taped interview on SVP talking about where VIck would land if Philly cuts him.
He said Buffalo may have a little interest, that HE KNOWS AZ and Arians has no interest….then threw out one team.
Oakland…the “land of misfit toys” as he called us.
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a clear swipe at carson
lol
“nobody wants a charlie in the box”
February 7th, 2013 at 11:55 am
Pocket Passer = 1 Championship
Dual Threat/ Wave of future/ Pistol/ option Read/ etc , etc = 0 champs
Enuff Said
February 7th, 2013 at 11:57 am
He’s not a restricted FA
Maybe he doesn’t want to be there
He’ll test the waters
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What NFL player wouldn’t want to be in NE right now? Perrenial 12+ win playoff team. Perrenial Super Bowl contender. Like Ochocinco said, NE is football heaven.
February 7th, 2013 at 11:57 am
I like the Rudolph reference!!!
My wife is a Rudolph fanatic.
February 7th, 2013 at 11:58 am
If they lose Talib they will get at least a 4th rounder back in a compensatory.
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not sure how that works. he only played a few late season games for NE right? I don’t think his production was 4th round comp even if he had played the entire season. 6th round comp sounds about right, when you consider that we are projected to get 2 6th round comps for Bush and Routt from what I been hearing.
February 7th, 2013 at 11:58 am
Bcz24 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 11:34 am
839.MistaBrown Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 11:07 am
Strange that after 7/8 sellouts they reduce capacity.
MEMO to Reggie, a winning product will reduce blackouts.
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1. This isn’t Reggie’s decision, it is Amy’s
2. The club would rather eliminate 10,000 seats than give away 10,000 free tickets with 2 for 1’s
3. The club doesn’t want to use the 85% exemption in order to have the games televised locally, as the NFL gets a larger portion of the shared revenue.
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Yes it’s Amy’s call, but Reggie’s responsibility to build a winning team.
At no point should tarping off seats be an option in the NFL. There are only 8 regular season home games. If you put even a mediocre team on the field the games will sell out. We didn’t have an issue two years ago and we were 8-8.
Eliminating seats is a sign of a loser mentality. If I were Reggie I would find it offensive. He probably agreed though, because it sounds like the franchise has packed it in. We are hitting rock bottom its a damn shame to see. From 8-8 to back to back seasons to rock bottom in one year.
February 7th, 2013 at 11:58 am
bcz24 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 11:57 am
He’s not a restricted FA
Maybe he doesn’t want to be there
He’ll test the waters
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What NFL player wouldn’t want to be in NE right now? Perrenial 12+ win playoff team. Perrenial Super Bowl contender. Like Ochocinco said, NE is football heaven.
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$$$$ talks
BS walks
February 7th, 2013 at 11:58 am
GOOD AFTERNOON NATION !!
and my Greenparty brothers!!
February 7th, 2013 at 11:58 am
Did someone say the Las Vegas Raiders? Please tell me that was a joke. You should be tarred and feathered them have you fandom stripped from you. That place is a sh1t hole. Sorry. Raiders move out of state is the day I stop supporting the Raiders.
February 7th, 2013 at 11:59 am
a clear swipe at carson
lol
“nobody wants a charlie in the box”
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How is that a ‘clear swipe at carson’? LOL do you really believe this sh1t you type sometimes? What free agent HASN’T Oakland been associated with by the media since free agency opened…
February 7th, 2013 at 11:59 am
Raiders continue to be near the the bottom of profitable teams in the NFL.
If Oakland wanted ‘em so bad they wouldn’t have a problem selling out games.
Raiders have a very marketable brand that is being wasted in Oakland with an understandably unappreciative fanbase. What’s there to cheer for? A 4-12 doing absolutely nothing to improve the team at every level? Telling fans to be patient while other franchises improve quickly?
Sure. There is a loyal and passionate fanbase but not enough of them.
I live just outside of LA and I would love it for the Raiders to come back and play in the 2nd largest media market in the country. Coverage of the team would increase by leaps and bounds, more free agents would wanna come as their endorsement opportunities and visibility would increase, the Raiders would have a new stadium etc. etc. etc.
Mark would be lucky to be able to move back there. It’s just business, and the Raider business is floundering and isn’t near getting the most out of the product that it can.
It’s a new world and markets change..the Raiders have to change with it. C’mon. They are just now agreeing to do a “study” on a new stadium/ This could drag on for years while the Raiders continue to lose money and field a bad team.
Raiders aren’t even trying to win. Why else would they hire some no name HC with zero experience and not even attempt to improve the roster.
This b.s of “Salary Cap Hell” is just a lame excuse. They can get better players if they wanted to. Teams do that. Reggie doesn’t need to balance the budget. It’ll never happen if you wanna win.
He wants to do things “the right way” while we flounder away in obscurity.
February 7th, 2013 at 12:00 pm
DMAC !!
hows life in the Presidents office ??
February 7th, 2013 at 12:02 pm
R8ER MIKE Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 11:58 am
GOOD AFTERNOON NATION !!
and my Greenparty brothers!!
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ODB!!!
Wassup brotherrrrrrrr!!!
I need upper half head gaskets for my wife’s 1999 Lexus RX 300
February 7th, 2013 at 12:03 pm
Miss ticktock was/is/and always will be an idiot
February 7th, 2013 at 12:04 pm
bcz24 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 11:59 am
a clear swipe at carson
lol
“nobody wants a charlie in the box”
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How is that a ‘clear swipe at carson’? LOL do you really believe this sh1t you type sometimes? What free agent HASN’T Oakland been associated with by the media since free agency opened…
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charlie in the box has been clearly singled ou as a being ill suited for the wco.
This along with his turn overs and wins to pay grade ratio make him the biggest “misfit” in oakland
lmao
February 7th, 2013 at 12:05 pm
BTW: Carson Palmer needs to go imo. He was very good once but that time has passed due to injury and age.
Reggie needs to cut the ties, take the hit, and go ahead and start Pryor and then hope for better things in 2014.
It’s not like they’re serious about winning anyway.
February 7th, 2013 at 12:06 pm
Yes it’s Amy’s call, but Reggie’s responsibility to build a winning team.
At no point should tarping off seats be an option in the NFL. There are only 8 regular season home games. If you put even a mediocre team on the field the games will sell out. We didn’t have an issue two years ago and we were 8-8.
Eliminating seats is a sign of a loser mentality. If I were Reggie I would find it offensive. He probably agreed though, because it sounds like the franchise has packed it in. We are hitting rock bottom its a damn shame to see. From 8-8 to back to back seasons to rock bottom in one year.
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Bullsh1t. The final 2 home games of the 2010 season were blacked out, and the Raiders were still alive in the playoff hunt. 2011 and 2012 seasons featured only 1 blackout due in large part to using the 85% rule and the 2 for 1 ticket give aways.
Reggie hasn’t yet had the opportunity to field a competitive team. You are an ignorant fool if you think Reggie could have done anything with the sh1t he inherited.
February 7th, 2013 at 12:07 pm
NE has never put any value on any defensive player except maybe Wilfork and Brushi. They let everyone else any good leave. Plus they never seem to give a crap about CB’s… they let BOTH Samuel and Law walk after helping them win a ring.
I can very easily see Talib leaving.
Belichick can sometimes be an idiot because he thinks he’s smarter than everyone else in the NFL.
February 7th, 2013 at 12:07 pm
When Miss tick tock is saying LMAO , she’s actually laughing at Carolina Panthers for taking Cam Newton #1 and only have like 7 total wins to show for it , she’s laughing at all the clutch plays Cam Newton made for the other team late in the games
February 7th, 2013 at 12:07 pm
if the Kansas City Chiefs draft Smith in the first round IT will leave the Texas A&M tackle JOECKL the Jaguars don’t need a left tackle but Green Bay does Green Bay picks 26 Erin Rogers was sacked 51 times last year Reggie knows his old team and would probably trade with them we can get a first and second and maybe a third this year in their first next year
February 7th, 2013 at 12:09 pm
This b.s of “Salary Cap Hell” is just a lame excuse. They can get better players if they wanted to. Teams do that. Reggie doesn’t need to balance the budget. It’ll never happen if you wanna win.
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Sure, because doing it Al’s way was so successful.
Pop quiz, how many winning seasons did Al Davis have in the salary cap era? You know, cuz the cap is just a myth and it doesn’t really matter to the team.
February 7th, 2013 at 12:10 pm
Mistic “The IQ Vacuum” and his sock puppets are here.
The chances for intelligent debate just reached ZERO.
Have at it guys… everyone falls for it every time.
-poof-
February 7th, 2013 at 12:10 pm
Willy,
I’m hoping KC takes Geno and Joeckl falls to us. I think Reggie will get a nice haul of picks and Green Bay won’t be the only team calling.
February 7th, 2013 at 12:10 pm
Or she could be laughing at Washington Pigskins giving up like million draft picks for a injury prone qb, who may not last very long in the league, or she’s laughing at the trade that sent Jason Campbell to Oakland for only a 4th rd pick by AL Davis biggest enemy, Mike Shanahan, even Shanahan knew JC sucks, thats why he took a backup job on the first day of FA
February 7th, 2013 at 12:12 pm
This b.s of “Salary Cap Hell” is just a lame excuse.
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Come on. I am waiting. How many winning seasons did Al Davis have ignoring the myth of the salary cap.
February 7th, 2013 at 12:13 pm
I would go O, only if our d WAS atleast average/above average, but since it’s pathetic we need some help on D too, putting up 30+ points on board won’t matter , if the D is not even going to force a punt, just ask Carson Palmer week 17 of 11 season
February 7th, 2013 at 12:15 pm
Raiders 2013 cap hits
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/oakland-raiders/cap-hit/
February 7th, 2013 at 12:15 pm
Hey Mistic,
I will give you one thing… I did watch you come in here yesterday and start talking football. Not even QB related stuff, and you were getting poked and prodded. It turned into one of those debates that causes people to leave the blog…..
But Mistic kept saying all day long that “He didn’t start it.”
In this case, he actually DIDN’T
Even though I tire of the race and religion banter, I think Mistic has some decent football points from time to time… But that’s the best part about having an opinion, is you can agree or disagree on whatever you want.
February 7th, 2013 at 12:15 pm
but… but… but…
Jerry told us the salary cap was a myth. that it could be circumvented easily and all this kicking the can down the road explanation. Jerry explained it to us like we were 3rd graders in here. Isn’t that the way it works?
February 7th, 2013 at 12:15 pm
Salary cap isn’t a lame excuse, if you could wheel and deal out of it, that’s good but your still behind the 8 ball compared to teams who already have 15+ M cap space, so which team would be more likely to snag that top FA? one with 15+ in cap space or one with 5+ over the salary cap ?
February 7th, 2013 at 12:17 pm
4. Thats it. 4 winning seasons in the 17 years of the salary cap. FOUR winning seasons out of 17, and you actually believe the salary cap is a bs myth?
February 7th, 2013 at 12:18 pm
guest123 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 11:58 am
If they lose Talib they will get at least a 4th rounder back in a compensatory.
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not sure how that works. he only played a few late season games for NE right? I don’t think his production was 4th round comp even if he had played the entire season. 6th round comp sounds about right, when you consider that we are projected to get 2 6th round comps for Bush and Routt from what I been hearing
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Maybe I’m confused on compensatory picks.
I didn’t know you would get a pick for a guy who was cut.
If that is the case and you say we are getting something for Routt, Then why wouldn’t we get something for Wimbley?
February 7th, 2013 at 12:18 pm
ODB!!!
Wassup brotherrrrrrrr!!!
I need upper half head gaskets for my wife’s 1999 Lexus RX 300
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need just the head gaskets or a complete upper head set ??
February 7th, 2013 at 12:18 pm
theghostronin79 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 12:15 pm
Hey Mistic,
I will give you one thing… I did watch you come in here yesterday and start talking football. Not even QB related stuff, and you were getting poked and prodded. It turned into one of those debates that causes people to leave the blog…..
But Mistic kept saying all day long that “He didn’t start it.”
In this case, he actually DIDN’T
Even though I tire of the race and religion banter, I think Mistic has some decent football points from time to time… But that’s the best part about having an opinion, is you can agree or disagree on whatever you want.
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Ofcourse she didn’t start it , because that wave of future, read option, pistol O , etc etc, was humiliated in the Superbowl , you know what would have happened if the outcome was different in SB
February 7th, 2013 at 12:19 pm
4? out 17?
naw, that’s not right? that’s not what Jerry said!
He said Salary cap was a MYTH
February 7th, 2013 at 12:19 pm
not the complete set
just the head gaskets
February 7th, 2013 at 12:20 pm
If that is the case and you say we are getting something for Routt, Then why wouldn’t we get something for Wimbley?
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I think you are right. I bet it was Wimbley. Just misremembered an old memory.
February 7th, 2013 at 12:21 pm
BCZ,CAP IS THERE BUT CAN BE WORKED.U CAN MOVE #’S AROUND AND PRO-RATE OUT 4EVER..
February 7th, 2013 at 12:21 pm
i read on 1 site, that we will get 1- 4th and 3 -6ths
February 7th, 2013 at 12:22 pm
http://www.footballdb.com/teams/nfl/oakland-raiders/history
Go ahead and count for yourself G123. Remember the first year with the salary cap was the 1994 season. Maybe my counting skills are off?
February 7th, 2013 at 12:22 pm
Nathan Stupar
LB
$37,764
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Finaly an NFL player I make more than! lol
February 7th, 2013 at 12:24 pm
It wasn’t just the FA that AL wasn’t good at, but the draft picks, and sticking with the D scheme that was always in the bottom 10 and firing coaches
February 7th, 2013 at 12:24 pm
Mr President your part numbers are 11115-20032 and
11116-20032.. and they should cost you about $40.00
each. If they try to charge you more then that let me know and i will order and ship them to you.
February 7th, 2013 at 12:24 pm
I chose to continue to root for the Raiders when they moved to LA, Al Davis’ biggest mistake of his life. Oakland has a lot of blame to bear in this, also. What the heck are those id_iots that run the city doing? If they can’t come up with a deal in the next year, the Raiders need to go to Santa Clara. Amy Trask needs to play hard ball with the city of Oakland!
February 7th, 2013 at 12:24 pm
926.DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 12:21 pm
BCZ,CAP IS THERE BUT CAN BE WORKED.U CAN MOVE #’S AROUND AND PRO-RATE OUT 4EVER..
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Wrong. You can only prorate a signing bonus a maximum of 5 years, and any proration becomes due immediately if the player leaves the team for any reason prior to the scheduled end of the contract.
If Al’s way of play the cap is so successful then please tell me WHY WE ONLY HAD FOUR WINNING SEASONS SINCE THE SALARY CAP ERA BEGAN!!!???
February 7th, 2013 at 12:25 pm
wait for Al_is_the_raiders to show up start licking Als Balls, just wait, here she comes on countdown of 5
February 7th, 2013 at 12:26 pm
CUT HIM,RESIGN HIM.START PROCESS ALL OVER AGAIN.IT HAPPENS GOOD AFTERNOON BTW..
February 7th, 2013 at 12:27 pm
So, I have not done the homework. Who are our options at # 3 for a pass rusher? Right tackle can be addressed later in the draft.
February 7th, 2013 at 12:28 pm
So Al was Capped…I knew it!
February 7th, 2013 at 12:28 pm
The point isn’t whether you could get out of it or not, the point is your constantly coming from behind, it’s like other teams have double digit lead in game of basketball heading into 4th quarter against us every year, what’s the outcome that’s more likely to happen? they are going to win 8 outta 10 times
February 7th, 2013 at 12:29 pm
R8ER MIKE Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 12:24 pm
Mr President your part numbers are 11115-20032 and
11116-20032.. and they should cost you about $40.00
each. If they try to charge you more then that let me know and i will order and ship them to you.
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I gotta run ODB
but Ill get back at you for sure
Damn thats cheap, compared to other places I was shopping at
Thanx
February 7th, 2013 at 12:30 pm
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Ofcourse she didn’t start it , because that wave of future, read option, pistol O , etc etc, was humiliated in the Superbowl , you know what would have happened if the outcome was different in SB
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Yes……Yes I do, and I’d probably wanna put my finger down my throat and vomit if I had to read all the “I TOLD YOU SO” and whatnot….. But that’s his thing man.
I love Big punishing Running Backs. Dozers that break chin straps and knock DB’s on their A$$; I always have. They’re my favorate kind of player…..
Misitc Loves Dual threat QB’s and that style of offense. He gets so damn excited about it and everyone else gets sick of hearing about it…. But hey, just leave him be man. Nothing you say will ever change his mind about anything
February 7th, 2013 at 12:30 pm
The early bird gets the worm Reggie. What are you waiting for. Make some cuts. Sign some guys. Or are you a early worm.
February 7th, 2013 at 12:30 pm
BCz
Totally agree with the concept that the Raiders or AD never really mastered the FA/Salary Cap. Thinking like Jerry or Steve that is it largely a myth does not help either. Except for the Gruden/Allen influence the Raiders have been the Cleveland Browns or Jags since the FA system came into play.
Teams that win the preseason (such as the Redskins and Raiders) with big FA signings/trades have lost more than their share in the regular season games since 94 because of cap management issues. The teams that will win and continue to win consistently under this system seem to be the ones that draft well, hang on to their own people and develop them, and occasionally use targeted FA signings of under the radar FAs to fill in holes.
That is what NE and Baltimore are known for for instance. That is kind of what SF did over the last 5 years and now look at them. The reason RM was brought in is GB is also known as one of those organizations that do this as well and MD’s advisors saw this. I hope this works and I hope it does not take years to clear out or it will not work because there will not be patience for it.
February 7th, 2013 at 12:32 pm
theghostronin79 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 12:30 pm
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Ofcourse she didn’t start it , because that wave of future, read option, pistol O , etc etc, was humiliated in the Superbowl , you know what would have happened if the outcome was different in SB
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Yes……Yes I do, and I’d probably wanna put my finger down my throat and vomit if I had to read all the “I TOLD YOU SO” and whatnot….. But that’s his thing man.
I love Big punishing Running Backs. Dozers that break chin straps and knock DB’s on their A$$; I always have. They’re my favorate kind of player…..
Misitc Loves Dual threat QB’s and that style of offense. He gets so damn excited about it and everyone else gets sick of hearing about it…. But hey, just leave him be man. Nothing you say will ever change his mind about anything
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Yeah i guess, i will leave her alone now, cuz she already lost, better luck to her next season
February 7th, 2013 at 12:33 pm
I believe we’ll be one of the top teams in 14, this year we’ll be in middle of pack
February 7th, 2013 at 12:34 pm
1960AutumnWind Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 12:30 pm
Teams that win the preseason (such as the Redskins and Raiders) with big FA signings/trades have lost more than their share in the regular season games since 94 because of cap management issues. The teams that will win and continue to win consistently under this system seem to be the ones that draft well, hang on to their own people and develop them, and occasionally use targeted FA signings of under the radar FAs to fill in holes.
That is what NE and Baltimore are known for for instance. That is kind of what SF did over the last 5 years and now look at them. The reason RM was brought in is GB is also known as one of those organizations that do this as well and MD’s advisors saw this. I hope this works and I hope it does not take years to clear out or it will not work because there will not be patience for it.
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Yep, I agree.
February 7th, 2013 at 12:34 pm
2011 and 2012 seasons featured only 1 blackout due in large part to using the 85% rule and the 2 for 1 ticket give aways.
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85% rule started in 2012.
February 7th, 2013 at 12:34 pm
IGAG loves IHOP. So does Reg/DA. Get ova it.
February 7th, 2013 at 12:35 pm
Raider8 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 11:59 am
I live just outside of LA and I would love it for the Raiders to come back and play in the 2nd largest media market in the country. Coverage of the team would increase by leaps and bounds, more free agents would wanna come as their endorsement opportunities and visibility would increase, the Raiders would have a new stadium etc. etc. etc.
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Keep dreaming. The OAKLAND Raiders are staying in Oakland. The organization is buying up properties all over the adjacent area. A business doesn’t do that if they are planning to leave. They are also contributing their OWN funds for the Coliseum City architectural study and design plans. A business doesn’t do that if they are trying to leave either.
Sorry buddy. The Raiders ain’t goin nowhere. Get Ovah It.
February 7th, 2013 at 12:36 pm
Ravens 34
Niners 31
February 7th, 2013 at 12:38 pm
Bart Scott being cut by Jets.
Hmmmmmmm
February 7th, 2013 at 12:38 pm
IHOP FIELD STADIUM, HOUSE OF THE OAKLAND RAIDERS
Thank you IHOP for buying out the Raiders and financing a new stadium. Raider Nation thanks you. 2013 = Super Bowl.
February 7th, 2013 at 12:39 pm
hwnrdr Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 12:28 pm
So Al was Capped…I knew it!
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ba dum bump!
February 7th, 2013 at 12:39 pm
946.The Big Banana Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 12:34 pm
2011 and 2012 seasons featured only 1 blackout due in large part to using the 85% rule and the 2 for 1 ticket give aways.
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85% rule started in 2012.
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Yeah but the 2 for 1 ticket give aways didn’t they were used constantly throughout 2011 to sell out the games, that and the constant lie by the team that this week McFadden would be back and all would be right in the world again.
February 7th, 2013 at 12:39 pm
Yeah moving to LA was one of the worst things to eva happen to the RAIDERS and stands as one of the largest mistakes Al made.
Still in order to compete in today’s NFL a new stadium is critical. It’s too bad cuz I got no prob withe the Coli.
BIG changes are coming down the pike for the NFL though. How they adapt to those is going to be interesting. Just wait until this CTE research moves from the deceased to the living because they are going to uncover some SERIOUS issues.
February 7th, 2013 at 12:41 pm
The Raiders in LA is a disaster for our image. Fan base would turn to sh1t in no time and you can forget about family atmosphere.
February 7th, 2013 at 12:42 pm
953, true Bcz
February 7th, 2013 at 12:43 pm
For the 2011 game against the Browns, the team actually gave tickets away to season ticket holders, to ensure a sellout.
February 7th, 2013 at 12:44 pm
Raiders in LA back in the day was a disaster because of the venue. But it would not necessarily be a disaster again if they planned it right.
February 7th, 2013 at 12:54 pm
in the last five years the 49ers have high draft picks may pick defense they had two defensive coaches that were terrible but they do no how address defensive players . The defense of the heart of the team your offense has to be of good not great if the defense can hold a team to 25 points or less you have a 75% chance of winning.
If the Raiders can get their running game going we can scored over 25 points and get back to playing raider football no more zone blockin . 13 years we run the same defense man the man there will be a big difference in the Raiders this year the culture is changing .
February 7th, 2013 at 12:57 pm
2 superbowls and a nice winning percentage in LA wasn’t too bad..
February 7th, 2013 at 12:59 pm
The Raiders moving to LA would probably reduce me to a casual fan of the NFL.
February 7th, 2013 at 12:59 pm
Marks hair Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 12:57 pm
2 superbowls and a nice winning percentage in LA wasn’t too bad..
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I think it was 1 superbowl (Skins’)
February 7th, 2013 at 1:00 pm
we need a decade of winning to fix our problems.
February 7th, 2013 at 1:01 pm
Marks hair Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 1:00 pm
we need a decade of winning to fix our problems
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YUP
February 7th, 2013 at 1:02 pm
The Raiders are closing down 10,000 states this team makes the playoffs . it probably be three years before the new stadiums built for 10,000 less seats Raiders tickets will be a premium and when the new stadium opens people will be clamoring to get seats it’s all about marketing.
February 7th, 2013 at 1:03 pm
2 superbowls and a nice winning percentage in LA wasn’t too bad..
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what 2 superbowls?
February 7th, 2013 at 1:03 pm
I would concentrate on offense. Your not allowed to play real defense until the superbowl anyway..
February 7th, 2013 at 1:04 pm
Marks hair Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 12:57 pm
2 superbowls and a nice winning percentage in LA wasn’t too bad..
1…1984
February 7th, 2013 at 1:04 pm
One sorry
February 7th, 2013 at 1:04 pm
948. ArmChair, I did not hear that. I just hope there is an announcement soon!
February 7th, 2013 at 1:04 pm
defense makes you competive, gets you to the playoffs if lucky. offense is what wins the whole enchilada.
February 7th, 2013 at 1:05 pm
I was only 2 or 3 when they moved
February 7th, 2013 at 1:06 pm
Marks Hair Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 1:03 pm
I would concentrate on offense. Your not allowed to play real defense until the superbowl anyway..
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Tip for young corners: In the superbowl, when covering WRs in the redzone, just grab his arm and let your legs go limp.
February 7th, 2013 at 1:07 pm
Guest123 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 12:10 pm
Willy,
I’m hoping KC takes Geno and Joeckl falls to us. I think Reggie will get a nice haul of picks and Green Bay won’t be the only team calling.
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Say he does fall to us at #3 and we have no one bit…do we draft him?
February 7th, 2013 at 1:07 pm
1…1984
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a very good year. My HS class was 84. good times
February 7th, 2013 at 1:08 pm
No annoucments here.. jerry and cork forgot there was a superbowl… we have to research ourselves
February 7th, 2013 at 1:09 pm
The only realistic outcome of the draft that will annoy me on draft day is if we draft Geno.
February 7th, 2013 at 1:09 pm
Say he does fall to us at #3 and we have no one bit…do we draft him?
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I personally would not. I dont see the value of drafting a RT at #3. But Reggie needs to keep his poker face and let on that he will. Maybe draft him and trade him after the selection? Do they do that in football? I see it happen all the time in the NBA on draft nite but never in the NFL.
February 7th, 2013 at 1:10 pm
guest123 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 1:07 pm
1…1984
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a very good year. My HS class was 84. good times
LOL…I was a freshman
February 7th, 2013 at 1:10 pm
Guest123 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 1:09 pm
Say he does fall to us at #3 and we have no one bit…do we draft him?
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I personally would not. I dont see the value of drafting a RT at #3. But Reggie needs to keep his poker face and let on that he will. Maybe draft him and trade him after the selection? Do they do that in football? I see it happen all the time in the NBA on draft nite but never in the NFL.
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Eli for Rivers
February 7th, 2013 at 1:10 pm
I saw refs get shoved by players twice in the sb, no calls… it’s the Superbowl just do whatever you want..
February 7th, 2013 at 1:12 pm
Marks Hair Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 1:10 pm
I saw refs get shoved by players twice in the sb, no calls… it’s the Superbowl just do whatever you want..
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Which is dumb. If you play the entire season with certain rules you should extend those to the championship game.
February 7th, 2013 at 1:13 pm
I see joeckel as an lt.. tops on my board so far. but I like to see the combine measurables as well..
February 7th, 2013 at 1:15 pm
There is Blog propaganda and then there are facts!
Fact 1)The Raiders WANT to stay in Oakland. They have publicly stated that they want to stay and have followed up that talk by buying up properties adjacent to the Oakland Coliseum.
Fact 2) The Raiders and the City of Oakland are working TOGETHER to build a project called Coliseum City at the current location with the Raiders as the anchor tenant. It will be the equivalent of LA Live where the Lakers play and it will have retail, restaurants, hotels and a convention center
The Raiders and the City of Oakland are having regular meetings to accomplish this and the Raiders helped foot the 1 million dollar bill to start making this a reality.
Fact 3) The NFL wants the Raiders to stay in Oakland and has 200 MILLION available to help fund a new stadium once all the details are ironed out. There are no new developments about moving any team to LA at this time.
So hopefully, you rejects on this blog can now shut up talking about IHOP Stadium, The Raiders moving to LA, and claiming that the City of Oakland is doing nothing to keep the Raiders, blah, blah, blah.
February 7th, 2013 at 1:15 pm
982. Yup. very disappointing Superbowl for me to watch.. no calls, no power, ridiculously long half time. I’m just glad San Francisco lost.
February 7th, 2013 at 1:16 pm
981.Marks hair Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 1:10 pm
I saw refs get shoved by players twice in the sb, no calls… it’s the Superbowl just do whatever you want..
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Althought I was wearing my Ray Lewis Jersey and my homemade deer antlers I was a little puzzled at the illegal procedure penality on the whiners the first play of game…considering last year that the game winning TD from Tebow against the Steelers that penality was not called and the head of officiating called it a ticky tack penality.
February 7th, 2013 at 1:17 pm
A Monster DT and block eater like Star, would benefit Shaunessy, Bryant, Houston and the blitzers.
February 7th, 2013 at 1:19 pm
832.Raider O Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 11:00 am
When you have as many needs as we do, I’m almost sure the BPA will satisfy one of our needs like DT, DE, CB, or LB.
Joeckel is one of the best prospects this year, but is he a better prospect than Star or Moore (20 yo)? I don’t think so (people including the experts have different opinions), so I would draft Star or Moore.
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Wrong Sandman! If Joeckel is still on the board @3, we damned well better take the best player in the entire draft, even if we have a semi-decent LT.
February 7th, 2013 at 1:20 pm
You can say what you want, ArmChair. The fact is that Oakland moves as slow as molasses. The Giants and 49ers have brand new stadiums. As of today, we just have the old stadium.
February 7th, 2013 at 1:22 pm
And we are not winning the battle on the field, either.
February 7th, 2013 at 1:23 pm
what makes anyone think veldheer would be a good rt? Veldheer is a STUD LT. Star should be the pick, Moore if he isn’t there
February 7th, 2013 at 1:23 pm
*bite
February 7th, 2013 at 1:23 pm
Football genius defense only counts in the Super Bowl dumb mass the defense. must stop run it makes the other team one-dimensional. if you can get up by two scores then you can do by John Gruden, pound the rock River 2000 ravens that’s all they had was defense they won the Super Bowl only team to cut their quarterback at the end of the season and defense only counts in the Super Bowl what game of you been watching
February 7th, 2013 at 1:24 pm
hwnrdr Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 1:10 pm
guest123 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 1:07 pm
1…1984
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a very good year. My HS class was 84. good times
LOL…I was a freshman
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lol.. i was out of school, married, and working for Toyota !!
February 7th, 2013 at 1:25 pm
Lol, Armchair, 984. Good post.
February 7th, 2013 at 1:25 pm
Beach Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 1:22 pm
And we are not winning the battle on the baseball diamond, either.
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fixed your post
February 7th, 2013 at 1:25 pm
The Big Banana Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 12:41 pm
The Raiders in LA is a disaster for our image. Fan base would turn to sh1t in no time and you can forget about family atmosphere.
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Lmao. I love Oakland and drive up for games but I wouldn’t say it’s much of a family atmosphere. I watched a group of Raider fans jump one other Raider fan right outside of the stadium, kicking him in the face after the Monday night opener.
I actually don’t think many NFL games create any true “family atmosphere.”
Of course I’m not one to judge where you take your family.
February 7th, 2013 at 1:26 pm
So hopefully, you rejects on this blog can now shut up talking about IHOP Stadium, The Raiders moving to LA, and claiming that the City of Oakland is doing nothing to keep the Raiders, blah, blah, blah.
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Dude I hope you are right but its been almost twenty years since the Raids moved back and zip.
But somehow the City of Oakland has millions of dollars to bring in ex-LAPD chiefs as consultants. (You would think for a couple hundred thousand they could paint that rusted olde fence off the Bart bridge)
February 7th, 2013 at 1:26 pm
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lol.. i was out of school, married, and working for Toyota !!
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thx Mike,now I don’t feel so dam old!
lol
February 7th, 2013 at 1:27 pm
IF Joeckel falls to 3 the Raiders should be all over that Veldheer,Wiz, Joeckel sounds pretty darn good to me we finally would have some nice bookend tackles for the future and if we go defense it should be Werner or Moore i saw Mcshay actually had us taking Milliner today with his mock
February 7th, 2013 at 1:31 pm
beach Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 1:20 pm
You can say what you want, ArmChair. The fact is that Oakland moves as slow as molasses. The Giants and 49ers have brand new stadiums. As of today, we just have the old stadium.
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Beach-
It has nothing to do with me saying WHAT I WANT. It has to do with what Amy Trask is saying, and what the City of Oakland is saying, and what Commissioner Goodell is saying. Even beyond what they are SAYING, it has to do with what they are DOING. Buying properties, meeting frequently, pooling money together, etc.
Those are the 3 entities that ultimately matter the most. And guess what??? They are ALL saying that the team is staying in Oakland.
So you can Crip walk your way to Staples and watch the Lakers or Clippers play, cause that’s the most entertainment you will be having in LA anytime soon. The Raiders are staying in Oakland.
February 7th, 2013 at 1:31 pm
SilverLining20 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 1:25 pm
The Big Banana Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 12:41 pm
The Raiders in LA is a disaster for our image. Fan base would turn to sh1t in no time and you can forget about family atmosphere.
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Lmao. I love Oakland and drive up for games but I wouldn’t say it’s much of a family atmosphere. I watched a group of Raider fans jump one other Raider fan right outside of the stadium, kicking him in the face after the Monday night opener.
I actually don’t think many NFL games create any true “family atmosphere.”
Of course I’m not one to judge where you take your family.
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Granted, but I’m comparing a new stadium in LA to a new stadium in Oakland. Yes, we have riff raff. When tickets go for as low as $26, you will get that no matter where you’re at.
February 7th, 2013 at 1:31 pm
Between Oline, defense and Geno Smith, there are way too many players that can help us in this draft for us to not be able to move back and still get one of them.
If we don’t move tho, Star is still my pick if available.
February 7th, 2013 at 1:32 pm
Armchair, this board rejects your facts and inserts its ignorance.
February 7th, 2013 at 1:33 pm
Sad.
I wonder if all of this would have happened if Hue Jackson would have been kept as HC and be allowed to hire his own DC and then McK could try and handle personnel and GM duties??
What a joke….
February 7th, 2013 at 1:33 pm
SilverLining20 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 1:25 pm
The Big Banana Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 12:41 pm
The Raiders in LA is a disaster for our image. Fan base would turn to sh1t in no time and you can forget about family atmosphere.
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Lmao. I love Oakland and drive up for games but I wouldn’t say it’s much of a family atmosphere. I watched a group of Raider fans jump one other Raider fan right outside of the stadium, kicking him in the face after the Monday night opener.
I actually don’t think many NFL games create any true “family atmosphere.”
Of course I’m not one to judge where you take your family.
Was that by the gate?
February 7th, 2013 at 1:34 pm
Armchair, who says the Raiders are buying up nearby properties?
February 7th, 2013 at 1:34 pm
The Big Banana Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 1:32 pm
Armchair, this board rejects your facts and inserts its ignorance.
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lol
February 7th, 2013 at 1:34 pm
I used to think Star was the answer this year, but now thinking that we have too many holes to fill.
I think or best bet in the draft is to trade down and pick up Ogletree mid/late first round. Use additional pic in late 1st or early 2d to pick up C Barret Jones or an additional run-stuffing DT. Or if none available pick up Eddie Lacy at RB and pair him with DMAC (or relive injured DMAC) as a bruiser RB.
February 7th, 2013 at 1:35 pm
Bcz24 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 12:06 pm
Yes it’s Amy’s call, but Reggie’s responsibility to build a winning team.
At no point should tarping off seats be an option in the NFL. There are only 8 regular season home games. If you put even a mediocre team on the field the games will sell out. We didn’t have an issue two years ago and we were 8-8.
Eliminating seats is a sign of a loser mentality. If I were Reggie I would find it offensive. He probably agreed though, because it sounds like the franchise has packed it in. We are hitting rock bottom its a damn shame to see. From 8-8 to back to back seasons to rock bottom in one year.
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Bullsh1t. The final 2 home games of the 2010 season were blacked out, and the Raiders were still alive in the playoff hunt. 2011 and 2012 seasons featured only 1 blackout due in large part to using the 85% rule and the 2 for 1 ticket give aways.
Reggie hasn’t yet had the opportunity to field a competitive team. You are an ignorant fool if you think Reggie could have done anything with the sh1t he inherited.
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Just an fyi..2011 didn’t have 85% rule.
Thats right it was the salary caps fault we went from 8-8 to an embarrassment. To think that is a joke.
Reggie imploded the team, and has lined up all the excuses while the fans suffer. Keep ignoring the results
February 7th, 2013 at 1:36 pm
1000.ian85 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 1:27 pm
IF Joeckel falls to 3 the Raiders should be all over that Veldheer,Wiz, Joeckel sounds pretty darn good to me we finally would have some nice bookend tackles for the future and if we go defense it should be Werner or Moore i saw Mcshay actually had us taking Milliner today with his mock
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Going with a CB with that #3 pick would be another terrible mistake by McK and Allen….Ugh
February 7th, 2013 at 1:36 pm
“Not only does the team want to stay in Oakland, they want the stadium to stay right where it is.
“The current site is the focus,” said Trask. “Our hope, our desire is a new stadium at that site.” She cites the accessibility to transportation services as the primary reason for this. The 880 Freeway, BART train, Amtrak, and the soon-to-be finished AirBART express to the Oakland International Airport (which is also right up the street) are all extremely important reasons for keeping the Coliseum at its current location.
The Raiders are not simply waiting until the lease is up to see what happens either. They continue to buy up local businesses so they can follow through with the plans which were put in place last year around this time.
The original and ambitious plans were called “Coliseum City”. The city approved the funds to draw up the plans last year. It includes three stadiums, a convention center (which Oakland desperately needs), hotels, and shops.”
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2013/2/6/3961526/amy-trask-says-oakland-raiders-still-working-to-ensure-new-coliseum-in-existing-site
February 7th, 2013 at 1:37 pm
Post 1014 was for you Kool Kell…
February 7th, 2013 at 1:37 pm
1010.rudegruden Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 1:35 pm
Bcz24 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 12:06 pm
Yes it’s Amy’s call, but Reggie’s responsibility to build a winning team.
At no point should tarping off seats be an option in the NFL. There are only 8 regular season home games. If you put even a mediocre team on the field the games will sell out. We didn’t have an issue two years ago and we were 8-8.
Eliminating seats is a sign of a loser mentality. If I were Reggie I would find it offensive. He probably agreed though, because it sounds like the franchise has packed it in. We are hitting rock bottom its a damn shame to see. From 8-8 to back to back seasons to rock bottom in one year.
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Bullsh1t. The final 2 home games of the 2010 season were blacked out, and the Raiders were still alive in the playoff hunt. 2011 and 2012 seasons featured only 1 blackout due in large part to using the 85% rule and the 2 for 1 ticket give aways.
Reggie hasn’t yet had the opportunity to field a competitive team. You are an ignorant fool if you think Reggie could have done anything with the sh1t he inherited.
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Just an fyi..2011 didn’t have 85% rule.
Thats right it was the salary caps fault we went from 8-8 to an embarrassment. To think that is a joke.
Reggie imploded the team, and has lined up all the excuses while the fans suffer. Keep ignoring the results
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Rude,
Exactly!
February 7th, 2013 at 1:38 pm
DKNIGHT I totally agree im confident we won’t be taking him with the third pick
February 7th, 2013 at 1:39 pm
Greg Papa was just on 95.7 the game saying it is really sad what has become of the Raiders right now.
Said the Tarps is gonna be awful and sad to see. Browns game only got 43,000 ppl last year, and a couple games were at 51,000 still might not be able to sell out the place.
Said Mark must have got tired of cutting the check to pay for extra seats nobody was using with the 85 percent rule.
The other dj said Raiders are a pure mess and Niners are complete opposite with new stadium.. fresh of SBowl.
Papa said well history use to be with the Raiders.. they always were on top and Niners were garbage.. till Raiders moved for 13 yrs and Niners took over the Crown of the bay area and were constantly in the super bowl .
Basically Papa said he doesnt see a way Oakland WILL/ CAN finance a new stadium for the Raiders.. just doesnt see it.
The other Dj said we are so similar to that garbage team JAX.. and Papa said ya but most teams dont have 3 superbowls in their history.
Basically the both agreed how sad the Raiders have become with so much history. A once proud franchise
February 7th, 2013 at 1:40 pm
SAY NO TO GENOOOOOOO
February 7th, 2013 at 1:41 pm
The Big Banana Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 1:31 pm
SilverLining20 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 1:25 pm
The Big Banana Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 12:41 pm
The Raiders in LA is a disaster for our image. Fan base would turn to sh1t in no time and you can forget about family atmosphere.
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Lmao. I love Oakland and drive up for games but I wouldn’t say it’s much of a family atmosphere. I watched a group of Raider fans jump one other Raider fan right outside of the stadium, kicking him in the face after the Monday night opener.
I actually don’t think many NFL games create any true “family atmosphere.”
Of course I’m not one to judge where you take your family.
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Granted, but I’m comparing a new stadium in LA to a new stadium in Oakland. Yes, we have riff raff. When tickets go for as low as $26, you will get that no matter where you’re at.
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Yeah I hear you but LA Live is not South Central (unfortunately I know because I live there). Farmers Field ain’t gonna be cheap either. The sketchiest people I ever see at LA Live are ticket scalpers and there not doin anything.
I don’t understand why people can’t just straight up say they don’t want The Raiders to move to LA because they belong in Oakland. Why is there the need to try and make LA seem like something it really isn’t. Trust me if LA was as crazy as some people try to make it seem, I’d be dead or hooked on crack by now. C’mon you guys are starting to sound like Fox News.
February 7th, 2013 at 1:42 pm
ARMCHAIR Where would the Raiders play if they choose to build a stadium in the same location. At CAL maybe ?
February 7th, 2013 at 1:43 pm
Theghostronin79 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 12:15 pm
Hey Mistic,
I will give you one thing… I did watch you come in here yesterday and start talking football. Not even QB related stuff, and you were getting poked and prodded. It turned into one of those debates that causes people to leave the blog…..
But Mistic kept saying all day long that “He didn’t start it.”
In this case, he actually DIDN’T
Even though I tire of the race and religion banter, I think Mistic has some decent football points from time to time… But that’s the best part about having an opinion, is you can agree or disagree on whatever you want.
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bullsh1t. he has it coming from now until forever.
btw, if ur white, remember that he wants to chop the heads off ur children. and u think he “has some good takes” now and then?
he’s a sh1tbag bigot and deserves no positive remarks until he changes.
February 7th, 2013 at 1:43 pm
Hwnrdr Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 1:33 pm
SilverLining20 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 1:25 pm
The Big Banana Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 12:41 pm
The Raiders in LA is a disaster for our image. Fan base would turn to sh1t in no time and you can forget about family atmosphere.
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Lmao. I love Oakland and drive up for games but I wouldn’t say it’s much of a family atmosphere. I watched a group of Raider fans jump one other Raider fan right outside of the stadium, kicking him in the face after the Monday night opener.
I actually don’t think many NFL games create any true “family atmosphere.”
Of course I’m not one to judge where you take your family.
Was that by the gate?
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It was in the shallow area of the parking lots heading to the dirt lots across the street.
February 7th, 2013 at 1:44 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 1:37 pm
Post 1014 was for you Kool Kell…
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Thank-you. I don’t see Coliseum City happening though, as it stands today.
February 7th, 2013 at 1:46 pm
bullsh1t. he has it coming from now until forever.
btw, if ur white, remember that he wants to chop the heads off ur children. and u think he “has some good takes” now and then?
he’s a sh1tbag bigot and deserves no positive remarks until he changes.
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This coming from a self-righteous bible thumper.
February 7th, 2013 at 1:46 pm
Todd McShay said the only first round grade he gave for QB was GENO SMITH.. has all the tools just needs for his interviews and evaluations to checkout.
Said he is a TOP 20 pick could go higher cuz need.
also
Matt Miller@nfldraftscout
Report: This year’s “throwing QBs” at Combine will be James Vandenberg, Colby Cameron and Tyler Bray. Generally reserved for low ranked QBs
Matt Miller@nfldraftscout
Zac Dysert, Collin Klein, Sean Renfree, Marqueis Gray all received higher grades from numerous NFL teams. Thus Bray being a “throwing QB”.
Matt Miller@nfldraftscout
To clear up any confusion, a “Throwing QB” is invited to the Combine to throw for drills. Not a good thing.
February 7th, 2013 at 1:47 pm
Matt Miller@nfldraftscout
Everything I’m hearing today points to teams really not liking Tyler Bray. Still early, but reports aren’t kind.
February 7th, 2013 at 1:48 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 1:44 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 1:37 pm
Post 1014 was for you Kool Kell…
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Thank-you. I don’t see Coliseum City happening though, as it stands today.
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Hey Kell, it’s all good. Everyone has an opinion. But regardless of Coliseum City or not, the Raiders are staying in Oakland.
They have begun buying adjacent properties, helped pay for the new stadium planning design, and have 200 million pledged by the NFL if they stay in Oakland.
If you can show me more powerful evidence indicative of a move somewhere else, please feel free to cut and paste to your hearts delight.
February 7th, 2013 at 1:48 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 1:39 pm
Greg Papa was just on 95.7 the game saying it is really sad what has become of the Raiders right now.
Said the Tarps is gonna be awful and sad to see. Browns game only got 43,000 ppl last year, and a couple games were at 51,000 still might not be able to sell out the place.
Said Mark must have got tired of cutting the check to pay for extra seats nobody was using with the 85 percent rule.
The other dj said Raiders are a pure mess and Niners are complete opposite with new stadium.. fresh of SBowl.
Papa said well history use to be with the Raiders.. they always were on top and Niners were garbage.. till Raiders moved for 13 yrs and Niners took over the Crown of the bay area and were constantly in the super bowl .
Basically Papa said he doesnt see a way Oakland WILL/ CAN finance a new stadium for the Raiders.. just doesnt see it.
The other Dj said we are so similar to that garbage team JAX.. and Papa said ya but most teams dont have 3 superbowls in their history.
Basically the both agreed how sad the Raiders have become with so much history. A once proud franchise
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Too bad all the “people in the know” like Papa have only given Mark Davis one full season to right the ship before writing the whole thing off. Papa is a total d-bag and an ignorant one, at that.
February 7th, 2013 at 1:49 pm
1016.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 1:39 pm
Greg Papa was just on 95.7 the game saying it is really sad what has become of the Raiders right now.
Said the Tarps is gonna be awful and sad to see. Browns game only got 43,000 ppl last year, and a couple games were at 51,000 still might not be able to sell out the place.
Said Mark must have got tired of cutting the check to pay for extra seats nobody was using with the 85 percent rule.
The other dj said Raiders are a pure mess and Niners are complete opposite with new stadium.. fresh of SBowl.
Papa said well history use to be with the Raiders.. they always were on top and Niners were garbage.. till Raiders moved for 13 yrs and Niners took over the Crown of the bay area and were constantly in the super bowl .
Basically Papa said he doesnt see a way Oakland WILL/ CAN finance a new stadium for the Raiders.. just doesnt see it.
The other Dj said we are so similar to that garbage team JAX.. and Papa said ya but most teams dont have 3 superbowls in their history.
Basically the both agreed how sad the Raiders have become with so much history. A once proud franchise
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yeah, they should be proud of the fact that those same sports talk hypocrites on 95.7fm as well as some of you in here helped push and influence Mark Davis to inexcusably fire Hue Jackson, when he didn’t deserve after a very adverse 1st year as head coach.
February 7th, 2013 at 1:49 pm
1021…if that is the same one I’m thinking of, that was young kids from LA mad that we lost! The cop that came said that they kept saying we’re gonna do it LA style and the cop then said he had no idea wtf that means!
February 7th, 2013 at 1:50 pm
Post 1020 Exactly DOC its disgusting how some people give that POS a pass in here but i never will. I completely agree Mistic has it coming from now on out he is a sack of SH!T and i will always let him kno it.
February 7th, 2013 at 1:51 pm
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Oakland-hires-police-consultant-Bratton-4215491.php
“Oakland hires pricey ’supercop’ consultant Bratton”
Money to brutalize but no money for development…
February 7th, 2013 at 1:51 pm
1027.Just Win Baby Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 1:48 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 1:39 pm
Greg Papa was just on 95.7 the game saying it is really sad what has become of the Raiders right now.
Said the Tarps is gonna be awful and sad to see. Browns game only got 43,000 ppl last year, and a couple games were at 51,000 still might not be able to sell out the place.
Said Mark must have got tired of cutting the check to pay for extra seats nobody was using with the 85 percent rule.
The other dj said Raiders are a pure mess and Niners are complete opposite with new stadium.. fresh of SBowl.
Papa said well history use to be with the Raiders.. they always were on top and Niners were garbage.. till Raiders moved for 13 yrs and Niners took over the Crown of the bay area and were constantly in the super bowl .
Basically Papa said he doesnt see a way Oakland WILL/ CAN finance a new stadium for the Raiders.. just doesnt see it.
The other Dj said we are so similar to that garbage team JAX.. and Papa said ya but most teams dont have 3 superbowls in their history.
Basically the both agreed how sad the Raiders have become with so much history. A once proud franchise
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Too bad all the “people in the know” like Papa have only given Mark Davis one full season to right the ship before writing the whole thing off. Papa is a total d-bag and an ignorant one, at that.
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I’m sick of Greg Papa actually.
He contradicts himself all the time and is a hypocrite and acts like a pompous know it all azz on the air.
He annoys me, just like his pervert partner John Lund does on 95.7 the game.
February 7th, 2013 at 1:51 pm
Went to almost every LA Raider game ’till ‘91/’92. Any questions? I’ll do my best to answer them.
February 7th, 2013 at 1:52 pm
Ummm…how did anybody here influence Mark or Reggie to fire Hue???
February 7th, 2013 at 1:52 pm
Too bad all the “people in the know” like Papa have only given Mark Davis one full season to right the ship before writing the whole thing off. Papa is a total d-bag and an ignorant one, at that.
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actually Papa is one of hte last loyal Raider “employees” and was a AL davis shill lap dog.. and its is sad to see.
Its a joke what is happening to the Raiders right now. Raider have one of the worst venues in all of NFL.. They are 1 of the 3 most aweful place to watch a game. SF is one too but this is the last year.
On record PAPA didnt agree with the PALMER TRADE.. I agreed with him 100 percent.
February 7th, 2013 at 1:54 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 1:51 pm
Went to almost every LA Raider game ’till ‘91/’92. Any questions? I’ll do my best to answer them.
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?? how much for a beer , and could you still smoke inside ??
February 7th, 2013 at 1:56 pm
1035.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 1:52 pm
Too bad all the “people in the know” like Papa have only given Mark Davis one full season to right the ship before writing the whole thing off. Papa is a total d-bag and an ignorant one, at that.
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actually Papa is one of hte last loyal Raider “employees” and was a AL davis shill lap dog.. and its is sad to see.
Its a joke what is happening to the Raiders right now. Raider have one of the worst venues in all of NFL.. They are 1 of the 3 most aweful place to watch a game. SF is one too but this is the last year.
On record PAPA didnt agree with the PALMER TRADE.. I agreed with him 100 percent.
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Nothing wrong with the CP trade, yeah it should have been for two 2nds instead of a 1st and 2nd, but the REAL dumb move was by Davis and McK getting rid of Hue after only 1 year instead of keeping him around to work with Palmer for a FULL training camp and FULL season and see what develops.
February 7th, 2013 at 1:56 pm
Raidertalk Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 1:51 pm
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Oakland-hires-police-consultant-Bratton-4215491.php
“Oakland hires pricey ’supercop’ consultant Bratton”
Money to brutalize but no money for development…
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I think public safety and ridding the city of hoodlums is more important to the City
February 7th, 2013 at 1:58 pm
1034.hwnrdr Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 1:52 pm
Ummm…how did anybody here influence Mark or Reggie to fire Hue???
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Who knows….dipchits with loud mouths in here and Davis cronies perhaps monitor this site and some cray babies were probably calling Alameda headquarters yelling and saying Hue should be fired.
Yeah….nice move there Davis and McK….
February 7th, 2013 at 1:58 pm
Hwnrdr Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 1:49 pm
1021…if that is the same one I’m thinking of, that was young kids from LA mad that we lost! The cop that came said that they kept saying we’re gonna do it LA style and the cop then said he had no idea wtf that means!
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Lmao. Sounds stupid enough to be true.
Idk if it was the same one, but my point was that it doesn’t matter where the stadium is, it probably won’t produce a family atmosphere because obviously that wasn’t the only fight. Plus stadiums might as well be giant sports bars. Too much testosterone and alcohol for a “family atmosphere.”
February 7th, 2013 at 1:58 pm
Nothing wrong with the CP trade, yeah it should have been for two 2nds instead of a 1st and 2nd, but the REAL dumb move was by Davis and McK getting rid of Hue after only 1 year instead of keeping him around to work with Palmer for a FULL training camp and FULL season and see what develops.
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but that has nothing to do with the stadium and game day experience .. we are talking tarps .. we are talking games not being able to be sold out.. Its bad right now. Hopefully we start to go UPWARD.. cuz as the other dj lol’d that the raiders would be a good team next year… PAPA said dont be a DBAG.. Raider could turn it around in 1 year and have a winning season next year.
He is the only guy in the media saying that. For that I thank PAPA
February 7th, 2013 at 1:59 pm
Andrew Siciliano@AndrewSiciliano
The entire AFC West, plus the Colts have the 5 “easiest” schedules in 2013.
OK .. no more EXCUSES DENNIS ALLEN.. NO MORE PASSES to be handed out
February 7th, 2013 at 2:00 pm
Mac butt cheese 20,
you keep referring to me as her, but you are the puzzie that refused my offer to meet face to face. Im clear on the fact that you would never say that to may face.
Classic keyboard gangsterism
very very feminine on your part
February 7th, 2013 at 2:00 pm
Silver – u live there, great. I’m not saying LA is one big dump. I’m saying that element is attracted to the Raider brand. It’s no secret there was big time gang activity associated and revolving around the Raider logo down there. I remember as a kid being told not to wear my Raider gear when we went down there.
In 2010/2011, there was a well-documented shift to the Dodgers. The younger gang-bangers have no attachment to the Raiders. Plenty of nasty stories coming out of Dodger stadium. Folks talk about buying expensive seats to avoid that element, but not being able to get away from it. It’s a problem. Deny it if it makes you feel better, but its not a dig on you as an LA resident. It is what it is.
February 7th, 2013 at 2:01 pm
SilverLining20 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 1:58 pm
Hwnrdr Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 1:49 pm
1021…if that is the same one I’m thinking of, that was young kids from LA mad that we lost! The cop that came said that they kept saying we’re gonna do it LA style and the cop then said he had no idea wtf that means!
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Lmao. Sounds stupid enough to be true.
Idk if it was the same one, but my point was that it doesn’t matter where the stadium is, it probably won’t produce a family atmosphere because obviously that wasn’t the only fight. Plus stadiums might as well be giant sports bars. Too much testosterone and alcohol for a “family atmosphere.”
I agree with you!
February 7th, 2013 at 2:01 pm
Yeah I hear you but LA Live is not South Central (unfortunately I know because I live there). Farmers Field ain’t gonna be cheap either. The sketchiest people I ever see at LA Live are ticket scalpers and there not doin anything.
I don’t understand why people can’t just straight up say they don’t want The Raiders to move to LA because they belong in Oakland. Why is there the need to try and make LA seem like something it really isn’t. Trust me if LA was as crazy as some people try to make it seem, I’d be dead or hooked on crack by now. C’mon you guys are starting to sound like Fox News.
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i’m not concerned about the image thing, f em is the Raider image. but i had season tix in la and i attend at least a game a year in oakland and it was MUCH more violent in la. Part of it was the crime/gang situation at the time in la but even today it’s worse at the Charger/raider games in Diego and Dodger games than it is in Oakland because you’re getting the la crowd. You still get a lot of la crowd in oakland weekly but the ones willin to take the journey all the way to oakland tend to be more concerned with the game and having a good time whereas the “trouble starting” element doesn’t have far to go in Diego or Dodger Stadium. Times are worse but a family environment would be more difficult to have in LA, although with the right amount of security (see dodger games) it can be done
February 7th, 2013 at 2:03 pm
Times are worse but a family environment would be more difficult to have in LA, although with the right amount of security (see dodger games) it can be done
times are better i meant to say
February 7th, 2013 at 2:03 pm
DKnight007 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 1:56 pm
1035.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 1:52 pm
Too bad all the “people in the know” like Papa have only given Mark Davis one full season to right the ship before writing the whole thing off. Papa is a total d-bag and an ignorant one, at that.
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actually Papa is one of hte last loyal Raider “employees” and was a AL davis shill lap dog.. and its is sad to see.
Its a joke what is happening to the Raiders right now. Raider have one of the worst venues in all of NFL.. They are 1 of the 3 most aweful place to watch a game. SF is one too but this is the last year.
On record PAPA didnt agree with the PALMER TRADE.. I agreed with him 100 percent.
^^^^^^^^
Nothing wrong with the CP trade, yeah it should have been for two 2nds instead of a 1st and 2nd, but the REAL dumb move was by Davis and McK getting rid of Hue after only 1 year instead of keeping him around to work with Palmer for a FULL training camp and FULL season and see what develops.
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No, it was a terrible trade. Trading a first and second round pick for a retired QB who hadn’t looked competent on the field for 2+ years, when the team REALLY needs all of the high draft picks they can get, is not a good move. Still a bad trade for two seconds.
February 7th, 2013 at 2:03 pm
dr_robert Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 1:43 pm
bullsh1t. he has it coming from now until forever.
btw, if ur white, remember that he wants to chop the heads off ur children. and u think he “has some good takes” now and then?
he’s a sh1tbag bigot and deserves no positive remarks until he changes.
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dr slob you are a liar, I never said anything about “chopping off heads of babies”
You are the racist, remember this?
“I always direct my racist rants at somebody”
cross posting pos
February 7th, 2013 at 2:04 pm
at the end of the day the underdog outcast Raiders should stay in the underdog city of Oakland. If someone can build an “oakland live” type deal it’d be great however if Reggie doesn’t produce a miracle soon and get the Raiders back to winning, you can’t blame Mark for wanting to turn a profit
February 7th, 2013 at 2:06 pm
I remember greg papa not only endorsing the palmer trade but went on and on about him being an upgrade over jc.
LOL well we know how that worked out.
i find that papa had some inside info because he developed a relationship with Davis sr and a few of the players.
yet he hasnt been very accurate in my opinion since the death of davis sr, and he often spouts his opinion as if it is fact.
February 7th, 2013 at 2:07 pm
The Big Banana Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 2:00 pm
Silver – u live there, great. I’m not saying LA is one big dump. I’m saying that element is attracted to the Raider brand. It’s no secret there was big time gang activity associated and revolving around the Raider logo down there. I remember as a kid being told not to wear my Raider gear when we went down there.
In 2010/2011, there was a well-documented shift to the Dodgers. The younger gang-bangers have no attachment to the Raiders. Plenty of nasty stories coming out of Dodger stadium. Folks talk about buying expensive seats to avoid that element, but not being able to get away from it. It’s a problem. Deny it if it makes you feel better, but its not a dig on you as an LA resident. It is what it is.
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I’m just trying to promote logic banana.
Idk what else I can say other than me being living proof that its not dangerous being a Raider/Dodger fan in LA. I wear my gear all the time. Go to plenty of Dodger games.
I’m not the one saying one place is better than the other for safety reasons.
But no matter where you go it’s not safe to be an idiot.
February 7th, 2013 at 2:07 pm
R8ER MIKE Says:
?? how much for a beer , and could you still smoke inside ??
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Had seat cushions with the little floppy hang down pockets. Carried two or three of those with 3 or 4 beers in each on one arm and an almost empty shoulder bag on the other arm.
My ex had the worlds biggest purse. I’d follow her in and if security was feeling frisky, they’d do her purse and maybe my shoulder bag. Got in with a 12 pack every single time.
Figured when they finally nailed me I’d be way ahead money wise, but they never did.
Cigs no problem. And joints, as we called them, You’d just migrate to the top rows, always empty, and fire up.
February 7th, 2013 at 2:09 pm
In fact every single member of the the 95.7 dj staff made ridiculous statements about palmer and how it was a major boon for the raiders.
They all look foolish now
too funny, i called the station they let me on air once, yet after every single flop job by palmer they refused to take any dissenting opinions on air, for fear of being exposed for no nothing out of market transplants, unfamiliar with the raiders in general.
radio dj = hype machine propagandist and agents of deception
February 7th, 2013 at 2:10 pm
Refreshing to get back to Raider Football topics. Good to view solid outputs negative or positive, but at least they concern our passion for our beloved OAKLAND RAIDERS!
February 7th, 2013 at 2:11 pm
ian85 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 1:42 pm
ARMCHAIR Where would the Raiders play if they choose to build a stadium in the same location. At CAL maybe ?
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The main ideas floating around now are at the new Niners Stadium or at Cal.
February 7th, 2013 at 2:11 pm
Didn’t actually answer your question. Beers? Too damn much. Coor’s and Miller lite if memory serves.And the fourth quarter shut off ocurred somewhere in the mid to late ’80’s
February 7th, 2013 at 2:13 pm
ian85 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 1:42 pm
ARMCHAIR Where would the Raiders play if they choose to build a stadium in the same location. At CAL maybe ?
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California Memorial stadium makes the most sense to me. It’s close by and the stadium capacity is 63,000, the same as the Coliseum.
February 7th, 2013 at 2:13 pm
I remember greg papa not only endorsing the palmer trade but went on and on about him being an upgrade over jc.
LOL well we know how that worked out.
i find that papa had some inside info because he developed a relationship with Davis sr and a few of the players.
yet he hasnt been very accurate in my opinion since the death of davis sr, and he often spouts his opinion as if it is fact.
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Not the day it went down. PAPA was not sold on it the day it went down.. cuz i was listening to him that day.
Said he didnt know how much palmer had left or if he would be ready. It was a steep price not only draft pick wise.. but CONTRACT wise.
im sure as the days went on he dealt with it and tried to spin it
February 7th, 2013 at 2:13 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 2:09 pm
In fact every single member of the the 95.7 dj staff made ridiculous statements about palmer and how it was a major boon for the raiders.
They all look foolish now
too funny, i called the station they let me on air once, yet after every single flop job by palmer they refused to take any dissenting opinions on air, for fear of being exposed for no nothing out of market transplants, unfamiliar with the raiders in general.
radio dj = hype machine propagandist and agents of deception
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i know how much you hate the golden haired hero but the fact remains alot of people in here think he’s a decent or better than decent qb. no matter how many times you throw out his record and his number of turnovers we’ll continue to feel that way. Just live with it, we aren’t convincing you and you aren’t convincing us
February 7th, 2013 at 2:13 pm
The real story of the LA Coliseum experience was parking. I got a lot of stories.
February 7th, 2013 at 2:15 pm
Beers in Oakland are like 8 bucks I believe and 10 for the souvenir cup…I don’t know because I don’t drink inside…but still…that was like 4 years ago…not sure if its still the same in the O?
February 7th, 2013 at 2:23 pm
Hwnrdr Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 2:15 pm
Beers in Oakland are like 8 bucks I believe and 10 for the souvenir cup…I don’t know because I don’t drink inside…but still…that was like 4 years ago…not sure if its still the same in the O?
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I don’t think they are that much. At least I hope I didn’t spend that much on beer. Lol
I do know I bought my girlfriend a hot chocolate and it was worth every penny. Best hot chocolate I ever tasted. Sweeter than Kwame Harris.
February 7th, 2013 at 2:24 pm
Sweeter than Kwame Harris…LOL!!!
February 7th, 2013 at 2:25 pm
If the people of Oakland want to keep the Raiders then they have to pony up…..I figure that for a modest $750 million dollar stadium, each man, woman and child living in Oakland would have to give $1,919.51.
For a family of 6 that is only $11,517.06!
Do you or don’t you love having the Raiders in Oakland?
February 7th, 2013 at 2:27 pm
LOL, Dakota…alright Nation! See y ou all in the AM!
February 7th, 2013 at 2:28 pm
Dakota Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 2:25 pm
If the people of Oakland want to keep the Raiders then they have to pony up…..I figure that for a modest $750 million dollar stadium, each man, woman and child living in Oakland would have to give $1,919.51.
For a family of 6 that is only $11,517.06!
Do you or don’t you love having the Raiders in Oakland?
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I’m in Where do i send the money?
February 7th, 2013 at 2:29 pm
Dakota Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 2:25 pm
If the people of Oakland want to keep the Raiders then they have to pony up…..I figure that for a modest $750 million dollar stadium, each man, woman and child living in Oakland would have to give $1,919.51.
For a family of 6 that is only $11,517.06!
Do you or don’t you love having the Raiders in Oakland?
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Sounds weird coming from a wingnut.
February 7th, 2013 at 2:29 pm
ian85 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 1:50 pm
Post 1020 Exactly DOC its disgusting how some people give that POS a pass in here but i never will. I completely agree Mistic has it coming from now on out he is a sack of SH!T and i will always let him kno it.
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Only problem is you’re a moron.
Moron messages don’t carry much clout.
Just thought you should know.
February 7th, 2013 at 2:29 pm
lol
i remember calling the station and I was the only caller or voice that was opposite to the instant upgrade hype.
I gave them what i wrote here shortly after the trade and i cited the comparison in 3rd down qb rating and 4th quarter ratings of jc and palmer at5 the time and used that to support my case for jc whos numbers in those areas were superior to palmer. i also pointed to jc’s ability to make the smart play and carsons proclivity for the turn over.
They told me the stats were meaningless in that case, just like 99% of the people here did.
fast forward to 2012 seasons, what do you know. Crason and the raiders sucked on 3rd down, (one of the worst in football) and we dont need to rehash his awful 4th quarter meltdowns, or the dizzying 37 turnovers during his time.
LMAO
radio djs dont know as much as some of the posters here do
February 7th, 2013 at 2:32 pm
For a family of 6 that is only $11,517.06!
Do you or don’t you love having the Raiders in Oakland?
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Gave up our season tickets in LA figuring scalpers tickets would be 10 dollars maybe and at worst, you go to the gate and pay 15 general admission. LA Coliseum was big, you could wander around a lot.
February 7th, 2013 at 2:35 pm
inonewordraider Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 2:13 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 2:09 pm
In fact every single member of the the 95.7 dj staff made ridiculous statements about palmer and how it was a major boon for the raiders.
They all look foolish now
too funny, i called the station they let me on air once, yet after every single flop job by palmer they refused to take any dissenting opinions on air, for fear of being exposed for no nothing out of market transplants, unfamiliar with the raiders in general.
radio dj = hype machine propagandist and agents of deception
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i know how much you hate the golden haired hero but the fact remains alot of people in here think he’s a decent or better than decent qb. no matter how many times you throw out his record and his number of turnovers we’ll continue to feel that way. Just live with it, we aren’t convincing you and you aren’t convincing us
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you may not know this but you are not amongst my considerations when i post.
How you feel about it is of no consequence to me.
you matter not in my world
You are a blatant palmer worshiper, just as you were a grad fan
your opinion is not sound or in accordance with logic
February 7th, 2013 at 2:35 pm
Some of you guys are absolutely beyond hilarious.
Suppose the Raiders were buying up all kinds of properties in LA. The Raiders are in regular meetings with LA City officials. They announce publicly that they are actively seeking a location in LA to build a stadium. The Raiders are spending a large chunk of their own money to help finance a stadium proposal in LA. And then last but not least, Commissioner Goodell states publicly that he has 200 million dollars available to help the Raiders move to LA.
Um…if all that was going on simultaneously, I think it would be overwhelmingly safe to say that the raiders were going to be moving to LA.
Well all of that IS going on simultaneously, except it is happening in OAKLAND, not LA. Yet several of you are still choosing to ignore all of that evidence and say that it is indicative of a Raider move to LA.
Some of you guys are beyond saving. The stupidity is completely excruciating to read. Seriously.
February 7th, 2013 at 2:37 pm
I’m thinking my friends and I were not the target demographic when planning for future stadiums(stadii?)and other business decisions.
February 7th, 2013 at 2:38 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 2:13 pm
I remember greg papa not only endorsing the palmer trade but went on and on about him being an upgrade over jc.
LOL well we know how that worked out.
i find that papa had some inside info because he developed a relationship with Davis sr and a few of the players.
yet he hasnt been very accurate in my opinion since the death of davis sr, and he often spouts his opinion as if it is fact.
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Not the day it went down. PAPA was not sold on it the day it went down.. cuz i was listening to him that day.
Said he didnt know how much palmer had left or if he would be ready. It was a steep price not only draft pick wise.. but CONTRACT wise.
im sure as the days went on he dealt with it and tried to spin it
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i should make it clear papa did lament on the terms of the agreement, but he hyped carson as a player and an “upgrade” over jc
he bricked badly on that one
February 7th, 2013 at 2:39 pm
Any blogger who claims to know where the Raiders will be playing in 5 years, is……….speculating, just like everybody else.
February 7th, 2013 at 2:40 pm
Remember watching a 1.00pm game sometime in December in the early 90’s from Buffalo, where it was absolutely frigid, and then going to the 4.00pm game in LA where a “Raiderfan” was sound asleep sunbathing in the Coliseum. Not good!
February 7th, 2013 at 2:40 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
Some of you guys are beyond saving. The stupidity is completely excruciating to read. Seriously.
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Fine. Go read completely excruciating stupidity elsewhere. Chances are, we won’t miss you.
February 7th, 2013 at 2:41 pm
Now I’m getting btchy.
February 7th, 2013 at 2:42 pm
@Mistic1
Aren’t you the guy that said that Jason Campbell was elite quaterback?
That Jason Campbell deserved to be paid like a elite quaterback? (I know you did…)
That Jason Campbell would be the starter for the Chiefs or the Browns or the….and make the Raiders pay.
For the record, I have always stated Palmer is overpaid, not an elite QB and we got ripped off in the trade. I also wanted the Raiders to resign JC and have him compete with Palmer for the starting spot. You countered that JC would never resign with the Raiders, because he viewed himself as a starting QB.
February 7th, 2013 at 2:42 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 1:46 pm
bullsh1t. he has it coming from now until forever.
btw, if ur white, remember that he wants to chop the heads off ur children. and u think he “has some good takes” now and then?
he’s a sh1tbag bigot and deserves no positive remarks until he changes.
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This coming from a self-righteous bible thumper.
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i’m a self righteous Bible thumper? why? cuz i believe in God? not at all.
February 7th, 2013 at 2:44 pm
1067.rudegruden Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 2:28 pm
Dakota Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 2:25 pm
If the people of Oakland want to keep the Raiders then they have to pony up…..I figure that for a modest $750 million dollar stadium, each man, woman and child living in Oakland would have to give $1,919.51.
For a family of 6 that is only $11,517.06!
Do you or don’t you love having the Raiders in Oakland?
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I’m in Where do i send the money?
+++++++++++++
Well, I see one donation given by a Raider fan to keep the Raiders in Oakland…..I guess most of you are not willing to fight to keep them in Oakland. Now step aside and let the business people of LA take over and set the Raiders up the right way.
February 7th, 2013 at 2:45 pm
Ian85 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 1:50 pm
Post 1020 Exactly DOC its disgusting how some people give that POS a pass in here but i never will. I completely agree Mistic has it coming from now on out he is a sack of SH!T and i will always let him kno it.
*******
word
February 7th, 2013 at 2:45 pm
You are a blatant palmer worshiper.
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Doesn’t have that ring. You know?
I’m sticking with Golden Haired Hero.
Worshipper.
February 7th, 2013 at 2:46 pm
Ian85 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 1:50 pm
Post 1020 Exactly DOC its disgusting how some people give that POS a pass in here but i never will. I completely agree Mistic has it coming from now on out he is a sack of SH!T and i will always let him kno it.
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i’ve tried being sensible with him. i tried making peace. part of me thinks as a Christian, i’m supposed to be nice. but his poison deserves to be called what it is.
February 7th, 2013 at 2:46 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 2:40 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
Suppose the Raiders were buying up all kinds of properties in LA. The Raiders are in regular meetings with LA City officials. They announce publicly that they are actively seeking a location in LA to build a stadium. The Raiders are spending a large chunk of their own money to help finance a stadium proposal in LA. And then last but not least, Commissioner Goodell states publicly that he has 200 million dollars available to help the Raiders move to LA.
Um…if all that was going on simultaneously, I think it would be overwhelmingly safe to say that the raiders were going to be moving to LA.
Well all of that IS going on simultaneously, except it is happening in OAKLAND, not LA. Yet several of you are still choosing to ignore all of that evidence and say that it is indicative of a Raider move to LA.
Some of you guys are beyond saving. The stupidity is completely excruciating to read. Seriously.
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Fine. Go read completely excruciating stupidity elsewhere. Chances are, we won’t miss you.
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 2:41 pm
Now I’m getting btchy.
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So Purvisman, sound, irrefutable logic angers you?
You can be thought of as an idiot. Or you can type on a computer and erase all doubt.
February 7th, 2013 at 2:47 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 2:13 pm
The real story of the LA Coliseum experience was parking. I got a lot of stories.
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Hey Purv, what do you got?
One time me and pops parked off of Figueroa near Adams and walked to the LA Coli. When we returned to the truck they had welded-off my dads bumper!
That being said LA Coli and LA live are two different worlds.
February 7th, 2013 at 2:48 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 1:18 am
OK, for you scourge, one more time.
MR, The real Madden Raider, Sullivan44 and who knows how many sock puppets and aliases took an advanced course in trolling and blog disruption.
Came back as both mistic and dr_ rob and who knows who else,
That apparantly are diametrically opposed but in reality generate dissonant fodder designed to provke an emotional response that either suck us innocents in , or regenerates it’s own feedback and on and on and on it goes.
Right MR?
February 7th, 2013 at 2:48 pm
The Palms = wrong side of the tracks
February 7th, 2013 at 2:48 pm
DKnight007 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 1:56 pm
1035.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 1:52 pm
Too bad all the “people in the know” like Papa have only given Mark Davis one full season to right the ship before writing the whole thing off. Papa is a total d-bag and an ignorant one, at that.
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actually Papa is one of hte last loyal Raider “employees” and was a AL davis shill lap dog.. and its is sad to see.
Its a joke what is happening to the Raiders right now. Raider have one of the worst venues in all of NFL.. They are 1 of the 3 most aweful place to watch a game. SF is one too but this is the last year.
On record PAPA didnt agree with the PALMER TRADE.. I agreed with him 100 percent.
^^^^^^^^
Nothing wrong with the CP trade, yeah it should have been for two 2nds instead of a 1st and 2nd, but the REAL dumb move was by Davis and McK getting rid of Hue after only 1 year instead of keeping him around to work with Palmer for a FULL training camp and FULL season and see what develops.
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get over it, for crying out loud. it’s yesterday’s news. it’s been said a million times. new gm. wants a new coach. period. it’s ridiculous to keep pining over a coach who was here for one year and went 8-8.
February 7th, 2013 at 2:49 pm
And they sold daddys beer distributive?
That’s like an ATM, a license to print money.
Sounds like something a couple witless spawns would do
February 7th, 2013 at 2:50 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 2:00 pm
Mac butt cheese 20,
you keep referring to me as her, but you are the puzzie that refused my offer to meet face to face. Im clear on the fact that you would never say that to may face.
Classic keyboard gangsterism
very very feminine on your part
***********
i’ll meet u face to face.
February 7th, 2013 at 2:50 pm
You can be thought of as an idiot. Or you can type on a computer and erase all doubt.
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You butchered that quote.
February 7th, 2013 at 2:51 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 2:42 pm
@Mistic1
Aren’t you the guy that said that Jason Campbell was elite quaterback?
That Jason Campbell deserved to be paid like a elite quaterback? (I know you did…)
That Jason Campbell would be the starter for the Chiefs or the Browns or the….and make the Raiders pay.
For the record, I have always stated Palmer is overpaid, not an elite QB and we got ripped off in the trade. I also wanted the Raiders to resign JC and have him compete with Palmer for the starting spot. You countered that JC would never resign with the Raiders, because he viewed himself as a starting QB.
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not exactly
1. I said that i believed he was playing at a very high level for the raiders and he could grow into being elite with this team and cast. based on how he was the clear leader and backbone of a team on the rise, and the captain of one of the best offense in football in 2011.
2. I also said that i would hate for him to become the starter on another team and make the raiders pay, and mentioned the chiefs as a nightmare scenario.
3. I postulated that jc would never resign because he viewed himself as a starter (he said he viewed himself that way after the carson trade on his local radio show). I added that he also would not resign to take 2nd qb money behind palmers salary and he did not appreciate how he was replaced in the middle of the night by hu jack with this now infamous backdoor deal for his pet carson.
February 7th, 2013 at 2:51 pm
Doc and Ian teamng up, oh boy 2 guys that know nothing about football and are so called raider fans.
Hope both of you guys hold on to your dream of palmer leading this team to the playoffs.
February 7th, 2013 at 2:52 pm
raidertalk Says:
Hey Purv, what do you got?
One time me and pops parked off of Figueroa near Adams and walked to the LA Coli. When we returned to the truck they had welded-off my dads bumper!
That being said LA Coli and LA live are two different worlds.
_________________________________
Back at you shortly. Animal farm matters need my attention.
February 7th, 2013 at 2:52 pm
dr_robert Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 2:45 pm
Ian85 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 1:50 pm
Post 1020 Exactly DOC its disgusting how some people give that POS a pass in here but i never will. I completely agree Mistic has it coming from now on out he is a sack of SH!T and i will always let him kno it.
*******
word
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lol at two racist commiserating
February 7th, 2013 at 2:53 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 1:56 pm
Raidertalk Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 1:51 pm
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Oakland-hires-police-consultant-Bratton-4215491.php
“Oakland hires pricey ’supercop’ consultant Bratton”
Money to brutalize but no money for development…
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I think public safety and ridding the city of hoodlums is more important to the City
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Kell,
I respectfully disagree. I think giving the people development and jobs is a better option than bringing in repressive type policing. This guy cost the city of LA over 15 million in liability for beating up protesters.
It may temporarily stop some crime but it will sink the City of Oakland into further debt in my opinion.
February 7th, 2013 at 2:53 pm
#1069 I see you like taking my handle… I have no issue with ian85… Poor little loser have to hide and steal someone elses handle to fight a battle…
February 7th, 2013 at 2:53 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 2:03 pm
dr_robert Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 1:43 pm
bullsh1t. he has it coming from now until forever.
btw, if ur white, remember that he wants to chop the heads off ur children. and u think he “has some good takes” now and then?
he’s a sh1tbag bigot and deserves no positive remarks until he changes.
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dr slob you are a liar, I never said anything about “chopping off heads of babies”
You are the racist, remember this?
“I always direct my racist rants at somebody”
cross posting pos
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i’m the liar? never. ur lying right now. u said u want to chop the heads off all white americans. what, do they have to turn 18 first?
and u KNOWINGLY keep snipping off that quote and KNOWINGLY ignore the fact i told u already several times that quote was a joke when some “never before seen poster (you)” came on here accusing me of “directing my racist rants at nobody”, and then i made that remark as a joke and IMMEDIATELY followed it by saying i actually never make racist remarks.
ur a lying snake piece of garbage.
February 7th, 2013 at 2:54 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 2:09 pm
In fact every single member of the the 95.7 dj staff made ridiculous statements about palmer and how it was a major boon for the raiders.
They all look foolish now
too funny, i called the station they let me on air once, yet after every single flop job by palmer they refused to take any dissenting opinions on air, for fear of being exposed for no nothing out of market transplants, unfamiliar with the raiders in general.
radio dj = hype machine propagandist and agents of deception
**************
yeah. there all out to get u. paranoid delusional schizo.
February 7th, 2013 at 2:55 pm
dr_robert Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 2:50 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 2:00 pm
Mac butt cheese 20,
you keep referring to me as her, but you are the puzzie that refused my offer to meet face to face. Im clear on the fact that you would never say that to may face.
Classic keyboard gangsterism
very very feminine on your part
***********
i’ll meet u face to face.
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no thanks cross burner / cross poster
i know you dont have any friends, and im not interested
February 7th, 2013 at 2:56 pm
Dan78 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 2:29 pm
ian85 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 1:50 pm
Post 1020 Exactly DOC its disgusting how some people give that POS a pass in here but i never will. I completely agree Mistic has it coming from now on out he is a sack of SH!T and i will always let him kno it.
====================================
Only problem is you’re a moron.
Moron messages don’t carry much clout.
Just thought you should know.
***********
this is the guy who asked me for sex on this board.
February 7th, 2013 at 2:56 pm
Guys can we bet back on topic with our team here?
I want to know who is getting restructured and cut, I know the obvious choices
Please Reggie no Geno, no way no how.
February 7th, 2013 at 2:57 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 2:29 pm
lol
i remember calling the station and I was the only caller or voice that was opposite to the instant upgrade hype.
I gave them what i wrote here shortly after the trade and i cited the comparison in 3rd down qb rating and 4th quarter ratings of jc and palmer at5 the time and used that to support my case for jc whos numbers in those areas were superior to palmer. i also pointed to jc’s ability to make the smart play and carsons proclivity for the turn over.
They told me the stats were meaningless in that case, just like 99% of the people here did.
fast forward to 2012 seasons, what do you know. Crason and the raiders sucked on 3rd down, (one of the worst in football) and we dont need to rehash his awful 4th quarter meltdowns, or the dizzying 37 turnovers during his time.
LMAO
radio djs dont know as much as some of the posters here do
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what the fu@k is wrong with u? campbell was HURT! it was palmer or boller. get it straight dummy.
February 7th, 2013 at 2:58 pm
dr_robert Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 2:53 pm
you said u want to chop the heads off all white americans.
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I didnt say this either
stop lying
you are the racist and your kind (meaning racist) are worthless
February 7th, 2013 at 2:58 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 2:35 pm
inonewordraider Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 2:13 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 2:09 pm
In fact every single member of the the 95.7 dj staff made ridiculous statements about palmer and how it was a major boon for the raiders.
They all look foolish now
too funny, i called the station they let me on air once, yet after every single flop job by palmer they refused to take any dissenting opinions on air, for fear of being exposed for no nothing out of market transplants, unfamiliar with the raiders in general.
radio dj = hype machine propagandist and agents of deception
___________________
i know how much you hate the golden haired hero but the fact remains alot of people in here think he’s a decent or better than decent qb. no matter how many times you throw out his record and his number of turnovers we’ll continue to feel that way. Just live with it, we aren’t convincing you and you aren’t convincing us
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you may not know this but you are not amongst my considerations when i post.
How you feel about it is of no consequence to me.
you matter not in my world
You are a blatant palmer worshiper, just as you were a grad fan
your opinion is not sound or in accordance with logic
************
u are a blatant bigot palmer basher.
ur opinion is that of a racist nutcase.
February 7th, 2013 at 2:59 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 2:38 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 2:13 pm
I remember greg papa not only endorsing the palmer trade but went on and on about him being an upgrade over jc.
LOL well we know how that worked out.
i find that papa had some inside info because he developed a relationship with Davis sr and a few of the players.
yet he hasnt been very accurate in my opinion since the death of davis sr, and he often spouts his opinion as if it is fact.
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Not the day it went down. PAPA was not sold on it the day it went down.. cuz i was listening to him that day.
Said he didnt know how much palmer had left or if he would be ready. It was a steep price not only draft pick wise.. but CONTRACT wise.
im sure as the days went on he dealt with it and tried to spin it
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i should make it clear papa did lament on the terms of the agreement, but he hyped carson as a player and an “upgrade” over jc
he bricked badly on that one
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he was 100% correct.
February 7th, 2013 at 2:59 pm
I’d like to see the Raiders try and bring in either Cedric Benson or Brandon Jacobs.
R.I.P. Mt. Davis
February 7th, 2013 at 2:59 pm
Must be the 2.45pm wind up shift has arrived.
February 7th, 2013 at 3:00 pm
Hey doctapuzz read #1099… Is it you that is stealing my handle… Man up if it is…
February 7th, 2013 at 3:00 pm
And the board is in the toilet once again. Same time of day, same characters.
February 7th, 2013 at 3:00 pm
I was on board in the beginning thinking how the heck are we paying that cost for an overrated qb, who’s career was essentially over after the von olnofen hit. Of course megalomaniac hue convinced mark to do it what boneheads! Yes palmer sucks because he loses games. And doc check out flacco ratings this year not great but he wins!
February 7th, 2013 at 3:01 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 2:48 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 1:18 am
OK, for you scourge, one more time.
MR, The real Madden Raider, Sullivan44 and who knows how many sock puppets and aliases took an advanced course in trolling and blog disruption.
Came back as both mistic and dr_ rob and who knows who else,
That apparantly are diametrically opposed but in reality generate dissonant fodder designed to provke an emotional response that either suck us innocents in , or regenerates it’s own feedback and on and on and on it goes.
Right MR?
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not me pal.
February 7th, 2013 at 3:02 pm
Judge, sorry both guys are done
February 7th, 2013 at 3:02 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 2:52 pm
dr_robert Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 2:45 pm
Ian85 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 1:50 pm
Post 1020 Exactly DOC its disgusting how some people give that POS a pass in here but i never will. I completely agree Mistic has it coming from now on out he is a sack of SH!T and i will always let him kno it.
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lol at two racist commiserating
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says the biggest racist here.
February 7th, 2013 at 3:03 pm
dr slob
please explain how rejecting the palmer hype equals bigotry?
February 7th, 2013 at 3:03 pm
1115. Along with DMC and Goodson, they don’t have to be that great, just a change of pace.
February 7th, 2013 at 3:04 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 2:55 pm
dr_robert Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 2:50 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 2:00 pm
Mac butt cheese 20,
you keep referring to me as her, but you are the puzzie that refused my offer to meet face to face. Im clear on the fact that you would never say that to may face.
Classic keyboard gangsterism
very very feminine on your part
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i’ll meet u face to face.
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no thanks cross burner / cross poster
i know you dont have any friends, and im not interested
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that’s what i thought chicken sh1t big mouth. u say u wamma meet mcf20, but u won’t meet me. i’ll shove ur little machete up ur azz. punk b1tch coward.
February 7th, 2013 at 3:04 pm
Anyone got anyother suggestions for a power back?
February 7th, 2013 at 3:05 pm
Message passed on from the Moderators:
“Please ignore the Mistic/Dr. Robert split personality fight on the blog. Just scroll over it to the real comments regarding the stadium and Raiders in general. Thank you for your patience.”
February 7th, 2013 at 3:05 pm
Amazing how they all (?) arrive here within minutes of an opposing opinion. Nothing but blog vultures.
February 7th, 2013 at 3:05 pm
dr slob your acting like in irrational cave man
as usual…oh well
February 7th, 2013 at 3:05 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 2:58 pm
dr_robert Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 2:53 pm
you said u want to chop the heads off all white americans.
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I didnt say this either
stop lying
you are the racist and your kind (meaning racist) are worthless
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i love black people (even u, sh1tbag). can u say u love white american people? even one?
thought so. ur the racist. EXPOSED!
February 7th, 2013 at 3:07 pm
raidertalk Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 3:05 pm
Message passed on from the Moderators:
“Please ignore the Mistic/Dr. Robert split personality fight on the blog. Just scroll over it to the real comments regarding the stadium and Raiders in general. Thank you for your patience.”
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dont lump me in with his trash.
Read the thread and you will see when ever i post this racist attacks.
Take it up with him
I dont turn the other cheek
February 7th, 2013 at 3:07 pm
Hug it out, guys. C’mon.
February 7th, 2013 at 3:07 pm
First off let’s talk realistic cuts, not worried about cap we will get under it everyone does. But we know this year will be a wash, so guys give me a list. And, please forget bowe and jennings not happening.
I want a vet linebacker to lead like seymour claimed he did. And draft all defense, would love werner opposite houston but i love milliner
February 7th, 2013 at 3:09 pm
Come on guys I don’t post alot but I am a diehard raider fan for 40 years let’s talk about our team and stop the stupid stuff
February 7th, 2013 at 3:10 pm
Talk about Dr.Jeckyll and Mr.Hyde. Wait that’s it! DR and MR.
February 7th, 2013 at 3:11 pm
I’d like to see Tommy Kelly cut, Huff as well. Hopefully they resign Bryant, Wheeler and Shaughnessy
February 7th, 2013 at 3:12 pm
Punkazz coward… Go hide behind swastika…
February 7th, 2013 at 3:12 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 3:03 pm
dr slob
please explain how rejecting the palmer hype equals bigotry?
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ur entire history suggests u are completely unwilling to see things for what they are regarding palmer or any qb. u crave black qb’s and consistently overrate them and u bash all white wb’s, except the occasional token like brady or luck.
everyone here knows u hate white america. go ahead and deny it right now. u won’t because it’s the truth.
everything u say is completely transparent. u fool no one.
the price for palmer was too much but hue was going for the brass ring in the season that al davis died. palmer is a good passer who can be reckless. everyone knows this. campbell was nothing special and everyone knows that. u make a fool out of urself every day stating otherwise. and pryor has a very difficult time passing the ball. if u were genuine and objective, u would make some sense. but ur an over-the-top hateful bigot with ridiculous
flip-the-script” rhetoric, just like ur above neanderthal nonsense.
just admit u hate whites. or refute it. but u won’t. cuz ur a coward that lacks true conviction.
February 7th, 2013 at 3:13 pm
Can you two at least stop posting entire conversations. Maybe just refer to numbers?
February 7th, 2013 at 3:13 pm
Raiderjambo Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 3:10 pm
Talk about Dr.Jeckyll and Mr.Hyde. Wait that’s it! DR and MR.
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MR hates the raiders. i love the raiders. fu@k off.
February 7th, 2013 at 3:15 pm
dr_robert Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 3:05 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 2:58 pm
dr_robert Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 2:53 pm
you said u want to chop the heads off all white americans.
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I didnt say this either
stop lying
you are the racist and your kind (meaning racist) are worthless
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i love black people (even u, sh1tbag). can u say u love white american people? even one?
thought so. ur the racist. EXPOSED!
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you are biting my style again…lol weak suace
Please tell me how saying you “love” someone means you are not a racist?
thomas jefferson a known slave owner/ rapist/ pedophile supposedly loved his 14 year old slave & molestation rape victim Sally May Hemmins too. that didnt stop him from repeatedly victimizing raping or molesting her, or selling off the off spring from this sexual aggerssion and crime.
PLease tell me why any black man should have to profess to ‘love” any people that classify themselves as white? I dont need your approval and i decide whom i do or do not care for. i dont need to include anyone simply to satisfy anyone that classifies themselves as white.
besides this so called “love” that you speak of a so called greek construct and doesnt seem to make much sense to me.
Im more into the Afrikan concepts of coupling kinship and community.
February 7th, 2013 at 3:15 pm
The same back, Tommy Doc!
February 7th, 2013 at 3:16 pm
Dan78 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 3:12 pm
Punkazz coward… Go hide behind swastika…
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ur worthless here. i don’t jack ur handle or anyone else’s. u asked me for sex. then tried to say it wasn’t u when i pointed out how gay it was.
cowards hide behind calling out “racist’ with no evidence of it. why am i racist? cuz i’m against missdick? ur a clown.
February 7th, 2013 at 3:17 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 3:11 pm
I’d like to see Tommy Kelly cut, Huff as well. Hopefully they resign Bryant, Wheeler and Shaughnessy
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only prob with cutting kelly or huff is the fact we are painfully thin at their positions.
Perhaps these should be address in the draft. I would
February 7th, 2013 at 3:18 pm
Judge kelly gets cut for sure with seymour, huff stays. Bryant may get more money outside. Myers to me can go I said it before I would get keller, as a matter of fact just watching pro football talk they indicated top priority for jets is to resign keller, depending on long term plans keller is still relatively young and super athletic
February 7th, 2013 at 3:18 pm
if we cut everyone that saves us money including:
i have no problem parting with everyone except:
pryor (possibly the future need to see more)
reece
dmac
veld
wiz
moore (unless he’s trade bait, still has upside)
houston (3-4 de)
criner (deserves more time to develop)
streater
ford (excellent return man)
jano
bryant (resign 3-4 de)
bilikudi (deserves more time to develop)
crawford (deserves more time to develop)
branch (cost too much to cut)
wheeler (resign him)
burris (deserves more time to develop)
draft star with pick #3
February 7th, 2013 at 3:20 pm
Doctapuzz you haven’t had this much attention since being an alter boy…
February 7th, 2013 at 3:20 pm
1138. Yes we’re thin but they’ve anchored our defense down in the wrong way for too long now. Huff has stuck around for necessity for like 4 years now.
I see wheeler commanding more money else where than Bryant, but the Division knows about Dez so that will be our main competition.
February 7th, 2013 at 3:21 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 3:15 pm
you are biting my style again…lol weak suace
Please tell me how saying you “love” someone means you are not a racist?
thomas jefferson a known slave owner/ rapist/ pedophile supposedly loved his 14 year old slave & molestation rape victim Sally May Hemmins too. that didnt stop him from repeatedly victimizing raping or molesting her, or selling off the off spring from this sexual aggerssion and crime.
PLease tell me why any black man should have to profess to ‘love” any people that classify themselves as white? I dont need your approval and i decide whom i do or do not care for. i dont need to include anyone simply to satisfy anyone that classifies themselves as white.
besides this so called “love” that you speak of a so called greek construct and doesnt seem to make much sense to me.
Im more into the Afrikan concepts of coupling kinship and community.
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that’s what i thought coward.
racism means feeling another race is inferior to u and hating them. loving them is exactly the opposite.
thomas jefferson? who gives a fu@k? i haven’t raped or enslaved or otherwise hurt any black people. i don’t have anything to do with jefferson.
u don’t have to love people. it’s ur choice. but if u were a real man, u could differentiate between who wrongs u and who doesn’t. u have no intelligence.
greek love? what the fu@k are u talking about? i’m talking about the love u have for fellow man. that IS brotherhood.
ur a bigot and a coward. a bitter little man.
February 7th, 2013 at 3:22 pm
Hey aren’t you the same guy calling black people moolies…
February 7th, 2013 at 3:22 pm
@ 1128
I wish there were some fresh topics to discuss. Unfortunately, we gotta wait on the Combine before anymore draft buzz will kick off. I’m down for any BS-ing though
February 7th, 2013 at 3:23 pm
1140. Good list, but I would add Shonasty, had a down year due to his injury. Still young enough to contribute, and we’ve given up before way too early on young defensive lineman ala Coleman and Glover.
February 7th, 2013 at 3:24 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 3:07 pm
I dont turn the other cheek
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exactly. a hateful resentful little twerp. too afraid to be a man.
as a favor to the board, i extended a peace offering to u. but predictably, like a little baby, u refused.
ur a cowardly little person. u bring great shame to “your people”.
February 7th, 2013 at 3:24 pm
1145. Well there’s still FA things to discuss, we need a power back, LB’s, CB’s, FS, OG, RT
February 7th, 2013 at 3:24 pm
Darren woodson just said the raiders have the most work to do non playoff team wise, honestly from the heart if reggie had balls he would tell Palmer he is gone, and take kelly and richard with him, it is about the future my friends not 2013 and palmer throwing for 4000 fake yards
February 7th, 2013 at 3:25 pm
dr_robert Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 3:12 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 3:03 pm
dr slob
please explain how rejecting the palmer hype equals bigotry?
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ur entire history suggests…..
u are completely unwilling to see things for what they are regarding palmer
u crave black qb’s and consistently overrate them and u bash all white wb’s
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lets look at this
1. your trying to deduce what my history means cant be taken seriously as you have the tainted view of a racist
2. i have been the main one promoting reality with regard to palmer posting is turn overs and marrying them with the losses. These are documented facts and or reality as chronicled by the official nfl record keepers. it doesn’t get any more realty than that
3. Your dividing players along racial lines, and only do this where qb is concerned. If you want to call brady brees e manning and the others as “tokens” it only highlights your fixation on race and further erodes any credibility you would hope to have.
February 7th, 2013 at 3:26 pm
Miss Tick Tock is still here, she’s just lame, what ever happened to admitting your losses? Pocket qb 1 OTHER LAME STUFF 0 , Get ova it
February 7th, 2013 at 3:26 pm
Dan78 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 3:22 pm
Hey aren’t you the same guy calling black people moolies…
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no little gay guy. we were talking about the eddie murphy routine one night. cowardly punks like u always try to twist things. but quit trying to get fame from glomming onto me. i won’t be answering u anymore. and u really need to stop trying to make jokes. ur not good at it.
February 7th, 2013 at 3:26 pm
1149. Cutting Palmer doesn’t mean that much for the future, I’d rather they contiue to try and make the playoffs WHILE they improve, rather than just keep waiting for the perfect situation.
February 7th, 2013 at 3:26 pm
Well hopefully Coliseum City gets built it would suck to see the Raids back in LA a new football stadium in Oak would be so sick
February 7th, 2013 at 3:26 pm
“Ridicule is the only recourse for unintelligible propositions” (Thomas Jefferson)
February 7th, 2013 at 3:27 pm
dr_robert Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 3:16 pm
Dan78 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 3:12 pm
Punkazz coward… Go hide behind swastika…
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ur worthless here. i don’t jack ur handle or anyone else’s.
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lmao what a liar!!! you admitted it lol
” i posted as beech “
February 7th, 2013 at 3:27 pm
LMAO at Jason Campbell being a leader and being elite, the Reason we had those 8-8 seasons was because of this guy name Darren Mcfadden averaging about the same yards on the ground as Jaloser Campbell did
February 7th, 2013 at 3:28 pm
As Jaloser Campbell did through the air
February 7th, 2013 at 3:29 pm
My point of view is clear, build for the future no bs about playoff chances that means:
Cut bait on high priced losers and sacrifice the year to be cap favorable in 2014 honestly keep our young guys intact on d
Branch
Burris
Houston
On the O
Veldheer
Wiz
Streater
Moore
Criner
Pryor ( of course)
February 7th, 2013 at 3:30 pm
LMFAO @ Jason Campbell wants to be a starter , so he will never come back to Oakland, the guy accepted the backup job on the first day of FA, it’s true you over-rate every black QB, including Cam Newton, what has he done? only lead them to 8 wins total in 2 years after they took him # 1
February 7th, 2013 at 3:30 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 3:25 pm
lets look at this
1. your trying to deduce what my history means cant be taken seriously as you have the tainted view of a racist
2. i have been the main one promoting reality with regard to palmer posting is turn overs and marrying them with the losses. These are documented facts and or reality as chronicled by the official nfl record keepers. it doesn’t get any more realty than that
3. Your dividing players along racial lines, and only do this where qb is concerned. If you want to call brady brees e manning and the others as “tokens” it only highlights your fixation on race and further erodes any credibility you would hope to have.
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LOL. nice try punk. u are the one that thinks only in terms of black and white. u are on record as saying u like to watch black qb’s. i’m the one that started saying months ago that we should draft geno.
racism:
1) a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one’s own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2) hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.
this is u, missdick. not me. i don’t feel blacks are inferior to whites, nor do i hate blacks.
can u say the same about whites?
thought not.
case closed. u are racist. i am not.
i just stated that i am diametrically opposed to racism in all it’s forms.
u WILL NOT say it.
exposed.
February 7th, 2013 at 3:31 pm
Think I just got a picture of Mistic and Dr.Rob extending the olive branch
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=black+kid+vs.+white+kid+pictures&qs=ds&form=QBIR#view=detail&id=64FE947C5CC043E636DB484F64FEE4D0CDDD25CA&selectedIndex=9
February 7th, 2013 at 3:31 pm
Miss tick tock
February 7th, 2013 at 3:31 pm
Mistic U r a fcking liar u try and deny ur lil machete rant on chopping heads u truly r a sack of sh!t hope u enjoyed that super bowl as much as i did ur weak ass offense was exposed and the fact that u still think that GARBAGE qb JC is good just shows u r a clown
February 7th, 2013 at 3:32 pm
Yes Mistic we are dealing with a Bipolar coward who is really gay, and is afraid to come out of the closet due to his Klan member retaliation…. Why else would he use the handle Beeech’s gay lover….
February 7th, 2013 at 3:32 pm
The best situation for Pryor is to held Palmers clipboard for two season.
February 7th, 2013 at 3:32 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 3:27 pm
dr_robert Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 3:16 pm
Dan78 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 3:12 pm
Punkazz coward… Go hide behind swastika…
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ur worthless here. i don’t jack ur handle or anyone else’s.
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lmao what a liar!!! you admitted it lol
” i posted as beech “
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u love to lie. i said i posted as beeeech, as a joke. with the extra e. u know this. liars do things like this. take bits and pieces to try to make a claim. ignore the whole truth.
ur a fundamentally dishonest person. a true disgrace to urself, ur family, black people, and people in general.
February 7th, 2013 at 3:33 pm
1149. If we had a dead cert at QB would have no problem moving CP3 and his huge contract. However, not convinced yet that TP is a capable or even adequate replacement. That is why they should have given the young man more opportunity at the end of last season. We are no further along, other than to at least expect him to be a backup to Carson Palmer.
February 7th, 2013 at 3:33 pm
Raider E Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 3:31 pm
Think I just got a picture of Mistic and Dr.Rob extending the olive branch
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=black+kid+vs.+white+kid+pictures&qs=ds&form=QBIR#view=detail&id=64FE947C5CC043E636DB484F64FEE4D0CDDD25CA&selectedIndex=9
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lol. he would be missing a finger.
February 7th, 2013 at 3:33 pm
Judge I understand what you are saying, but in reality Reggie knows palmer is done here and to state we are going to the playoffs is delusional it is not just about palmer, he has ( reggie) had his work cut out for him and it sucks but the reality is we got to suck it up and plan for 2014 we are not making the playoffs this year
February 7th, 2013 at 3:33 pm
dr_robert Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 3:21 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 3:15 pm
you are biting my style again…lol weak suace
Please tell me how saying you “love” someone means you are not a racist?
thomas jefferson a known slave owner/ rapist/ pedophile supposedly loved his 14 year old slave & molestation rape victim Sally May Hemmins too. that didnt stop him from repeatedly victimizing raping or molesting her, or selling off the off spring from this sexual aggerssion and crime.
PLease tell me why any black man should have to profess to ‘love” any people that classify themselves as white? I dont need your approval and i decide whom i do or do not care for. i dont need to include anyone simply to satisfy anyone that classifies themselves as white.
besides this so called “love” that you speak of a so called greek construct and doesnt seem to make much sense to me.
Im more into the Afrikan concepts of coupling kinship and community.
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thomas jefferson? who gives a fu@k? i haven’t raped or enslaved or otherwise hurt any black people. i don’t have anything to do with jefferson.
greek love?
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every time you tell a so called racist joke you are hurting somoeone black people namely. So hurting someone while claiming to ‘love’ them makes you exactly like that slave owning murderous, rapist & pedophile thomas jefferson
greek love what your concept or the entire western or euro-centric world based the idea of love on.
see lupercalia and its relation to modern valentines day.
This is the euro-centric concept/ construct it is diametrically opposed to the Afrikan world view
February 7th, 2013 at 3:34 pm
OK enough about miss tick tock and her fantasies, can we talk about Raiders Football?
February 7th, 2013 at 3:34 pm
Dan78 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 3:32 pm
Yes Mistic we are dealing with a Bipolar coward who is really gay, and is afraid to come out of the closet due to his Klan member retaliation…. Why else would he use the handle Beeech’s gay lover….
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i don’t use the handle beech’s gay lover dummy. i posted for a half day as beeeech dawg. everyone saw the extra e and i pointed it out too. u aren’t jacking a handle when ur the one telling everyone. knitwit.
February 7th, 2013 at 3:35 pm
Miss tick tock will twist every thing to favor her , i don’t understand why you guys keep responding to her BS, can you guys just tell her Pocket QB 1 , rest of the crap = 0
February 7th, 2013 at 3:35 pm
1149. I seriously hope that’s not Reggie’s state of mind, to not even try for the playoffs this year just because everything isn’t perfect. Just because you think we can’t make the playoffs doesn’t mean they shouldn’t try to do it.
February 7th, 2013 at 3:36 pm
Boy you guys just don’t want to get on topic do you, Where is dj johnny?
February 7th, 2013 at 3:36 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 3:27 pm
LMAO at Jason Campbell being a leader and being elite, the Reason we had those 8-8 seasons was because of this guy name Darren Mcfadden
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you mean the same dmac that helped the great carson palmer (charlie in the box)reach the lofty 4-12 this year?
February 7th, 2013 at 3:36 pm
Pocket QB 34 – 31 Garbage stuff, most of the points came in Garbage time
February 7th, 2013 at 3:37 pm
I meant 1170
February 7th, 2013 at 3:37 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 3:33 pm
every time you tell a so called racist joke you are hurting somoeone black people namely. So hurting someone while claiming to ‘love’ them makes you exactly like that slave owning murderous, rapist & pedophile thomas jefferson
greek love what your concept or the entire western or euro-centric world based the idea of love on.
see lupercalia and its relation to modern valentines day.
This is the euro-centric concept/ construct it is diametrically opposed to the Afrikan world view
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LMFAO! so telling a joke is EXACTLY like murdering, enslaving, and pedophilia?
ur a fu@king psycho dude.
loving ur fellow man is OPPOSED to african world view?
oh, i see. is that why they’re killing each other by the millions over there? that’s african love?
February 7th, 2013 at 3:38 pm
i don’t use the handle beech’s gay lover dummy. i posted for a half day as beeeech dawg. everyone saw the extra e and i pointed it out too. u aren’t jacking a handle when ur the one telling everyone. knitwit.
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Yes, it hijacking another’s handle, trying to deceive. You’re an obsessive troll.
February 7th, 2013 at 3:38 pm
dr_robert Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 3:34 pm
Dan78 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 3:32 pm
Yes Mistic we are dealing with a Bipolar coward who is really gay, and is afraid to come out of the closet due to his Klan member retaliation…. Why else would he use the handle Beeech’s gay lover….
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i don’t use the handle beech’s gay lover dummy. i posted for a half day as beeeech dawg. everyone saw the extra e and i pointed it out too. u aren’t jacking a handle when ur the one telling everyone. knitwit.
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Meltdown… IGnored… Back to football…
February 7th, 2013 at 3:38 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 3:36 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 3:27 pm
LMAO at Jason Campbell being a leader and being elite, the Reason we had those 8-8 seasons was because of this guy name Darren Mcfadden
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you mean the same dmac that helped the great carson palmer (charlie in the box)reach the lofty 4-12 this year?
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It’s the same Mcfadden but different System Miss tick tock, in PBS Mcfadden was a beast, then came G Knapp and ZBS, our RB game went from being a beast to below average
February 7th, 2013 at 3:38 pm
Why won’t this site let me log off? Anyone else have this issue?
February 7th, 2013 at 3:39 pm
Miss tick tock what was Jaloser Campbell’s rating against Whiners ?
February 7th, 2013 at 3:40 pm
bigsnow81 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 3:38 pm
Why won’t this site let me log off? Anyone else have this issue?
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CLick on ur name and then sign out
February 7th, 2013 at 3:40 pm
Judge I am not throwing in the towel, never will but I want this team to be recognized for quality not for the laughing stock it has become. Take a step back and tell me the truth we have serious holes and a bad cap it will mean at least another year, Reggie knows this
February 7th, 2013 at 3:40 pm
Miss tick tock remind me how’s Carolina # 1 pick from two years ago doing for them?
February 7th, 2013 at 3:42 pm
1175. Totally agree. What is Reggie waiting for? The other 31 teams to roll over and accept it’s now the Raiders time. Sure as hell, that isn’t ever going to happen. Time to stop with the excuses, put the big-boy pants on, and have him and DA get to work, and at LEAST get this franchise back to respectability. NME!
February 7th, 2013 at 3:42 pm
Remind me again which team is JC starter of and being leader and on verge of eliteness?
February 7th, 2013 at 3:43 pm
1187. Of course we have holes, big ones, but that doesn’t mean we can’t compete. You don’t change the losing culture of a team by continuing to lose.
February 7th, 2013 at 3:43 pm
What the hell are you guys talking about, the FA and Draft hasn’t even came yet and you guys are complaining about the management already
February 7th, 2013 at 3:43 pm
This year I can guarantee no big free agent signings so get off that trip, ain’t happening-
February 7th, 2013 at 3:44 pm
elraidmanhattan Says:
Boy you guys just don’t want to get on topic do you, Where is dj johnny?
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DJJohnny is a real person. Most of this is the ‘Real Madden Raider kiddie show’.
February 7th, 2013 at 3:44 pm
JC will never start in this league ever again he sucks soooo bad i really wish he would go to KC tho that would be so awesome but then again Andy Reid isn’t that FCKING stupid
February 7th, 2013 at 3:44 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 3:36 pm
Pocket QB 34 – 31 Garbage stuff, most of the points came in Garbage time
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hmmm
the qb making his 10th start took a fully loaded raven defense to the limit in a superbowl.
what did carson do this year in baltimore vs the ravens with out ray lewis and other corner stone members of the defense?
oh right, two turn overs including an under handed beanbag toss interception to the defensive tackle in the back field?!?!?!? a 55 point embarrassment
LMAO
February 7th, 2013 at 3:44 pm
You don’t necessarily need big free agent signings to compete, just find some gems in draft, get some steals , do save transactions, get rid of losers, coach the players good
February 7th, 2013 at 3:45 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 3:44 pm
elraidmanhattan Says:
Boy you guys just don’t want to get on topic do you, Where is dj johnny?
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DJJohnny is a real person. Most of this is the ‘Real Madden Raider kiddie show’.
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jonny is a cross poster
busted him being raider steve
February 7th, 2013 at 3:45 pm
Will we make a big free agent splash or do you guys think Reggie will get mid-tier level players…
February 7th, 2013 at 3:45 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 3:44 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 3:36 pm
Pocket QB 34 – 31 Garbage stuff, most of the points came in Garbage time
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hmmm
the qb making his 10th start took a fully loaded raven defense to the limit in a superbowl.
what did carson do this year in baltimore vs the ravens with out ray lewis and other corner stone members of the defense?
oh right, two turn overs including an under handed beanbag toss interception to the defensive tackle in the back field?!?!?!? a 55 point embarrassment
LMAO
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Excuses . excuses . excuses. always excuses,
February 7th, 2013 at 3:46 pm
1195. I disagree that JC is that bad and that Andy Reid isn’t that stupid.
February 7th, 2013 at 3:46 pm
1197. Bingo!
February 7th, 2013 at 3:47 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 3:42 pm
Remind me again which team is JC starter of and being leader and on verge of eliteness?
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easy
2011 oakland raiders first place (undefeated in the afc west during his stay)
February 7th, 2013 at 3:47 pm
JC is super bad, my god 12 qb rating against whiners, freaking horrible, dude was traded for a 4th rd pick by Mike freaking Shanahan to Al Davis of all the people lol
February 7th, 2013 at 3:48 pm
The picture of DA after the Clowns game is exactly the reason I want to just slap the piss outta him. Look at him!!
He looks like a spoiled little punk who could give a shvt less that we just lost a game.
Infuriating!!!!
February 7th, 2013 at 3:48 pm
Reggie will scrape the bottom of the barrell again for sure. Which is why i’m looking at guys like Cedric Benson, Brandon Jacobs, Terrance Newman, etc..
February 7th, 2013 at 3:48 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 3:47 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 3:42 pm
Remind me again which team is JC starter of and being leader and on verge of eliteness?
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easy
2011 oakland raiders first place (undefeated in the afc west during his stay)
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HAHAHAHAHA you said he wants to start he won’t come back but why did he underestimate himself and accepted back up job on first day of FA
February 7th, 2013 at 3:49 pm
Dennis Allen was a promoted prematurely, but we’ve really got no choice but to hope for his success.
February 7th, 2013 at 3:49 pm
dr_robert Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 3:37 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 3:33 pm
every time you tell a so called racist joke you are hurting somoeone black people namely. So hurting someone while claiming to ‘love’ them makes you exactly like that slave owning murderous, rapist & pedophile thomas jefferson
greek love what your concept or the entire western or euro-centric world based the idea of love on.
see lupercalia and its relation to modern valentines day.
This is the euro-centric concept/ construct it is diametrically opposed to the Afrikan world view
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LMFAO! so telling a joke is EXACTLY like murdering, enslaving, and pedophilia?
loving ur fellow man is OPPOSED to african world view?
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yep your jefferson / greek / cave man love concept is 180 degrees opposite of the Afrikan world view
February 7th, 2013 at 3:50 pm
Judge we need to get rid of the losers to begin the winning culture, that is the point. Kelly, seymour, palmer ( to a lesser degree) lechler huff gone in my opinion, once you add to the new culture can you begin the winning culture. When Mr. Davis died we got screwed by Hue’s smoke job. Reggie knew 90 percent of the roster needed to go,why do think he kept adding practice squad guys? It is part of the plan to do a 360, trust me I know palmer is a good guy but he is history
February 7th, 2013 at 3:50 pm
You guys judge things too quickly just like AL Davis, that never got us anywhere, give the guy a chance with some real players for once , will you, quit being like miss tick tock
February 7th, 2013 at 3:50 pm
Reggie will probably do 1-year contracts again… He said resigning Wheeler was a priority, How many years do you guys think he will get…
February 7th, 2013 at 3:51 pm
How many wins again by Carolinas #1 pick 2 years ago? and how many pick 6s and bone headed plays by that guy in the clutch this year?
February 7th, 2013 at 3:51 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 3:38 pm
i don’t use the handle beech’s gay lover dummy. i posted for a half day as beeeech dawg. everyone saw the extra e and i pointed it out too. u aren’t jacking a handle when ur the one telling everyone. knitwit.
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Yes, it hijacking another’s handle, trying to deceive. You’re an obsessive troll.
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no dummy. not when u TELL everyone. not deception. it was a joke. ur just too stupid to understand i guess.
February 7th, 2013 at 3:52 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 3:47 pm
JC is super bad, my god 12 qb rating against whiners, freaking horrible, dude was traded for a 4th rd pick by Mike freaking Shanahan to Al Davis of all the people lol
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mac but crust
if jc was ‘bad’ here
THEN WHAT THE FUGG HAS PALMER BEEN?!?!?
8-16 NEVER HIGHER THAN 3RD PLACE 37 TURNOVERS IN 24 STARTS??!?!?!
LMAO!!!!
February 7th, 2013 at 3:52 pm
Bigsnow81 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 3:38 pm
Why won’t this site let me log off? Anyone else have this issue?
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yes. i’ve tried before but it won’t do it. eventually, when it has trouble reloading, it will sudden;y have me logged off.
February 7th, 2013 at 3:53 pm
Judge please those guys are done, if he wants to take a chance then sign Malauaga, he can’t cover but he is young 2 down backer.
February 7th, 2013 at 3:53 pm
I know that LMAO is at Jason Campbell accepting back up position after you said he will go start for KC CHiefs and make us pay LMAO
February 7th, 2013 at 3:54 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 3:44 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 3:36 pm
Pocket QB 34 – 31 Garbage stuff, most of the points came in Garbage time
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hmmm
the qb making his 10th start took a fully loaded raven defense to the limit in a superbowl.
what did carson do this year in baltimore vs the ravens with out ray lewis and other corner stone members of the defense?
oh right, two turn overs including an under handed beanbag toss interception to the defensive tackle in the back field?!?!?!? a 55 point embarrassment
LMAO
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exactly. when the raiders lose, u laugh. not a raider fan.
February 7th, 2013 at 3:55 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 3:45 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 3:44 pm
elraidmanhattan Says:
Boy you guys just don’t want to get on topic do you, Where is dj johnny?
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DJJohnny is a real person. Most of this is the ‘Real Madden Raider kiddie show’.
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jonny is a cross poster
busted him being raider steve
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btw, who cares about cross posters? they’re easy to spot. i’ve spotted u doing it many times.
February 7th, 2013 at 3:55 pm
exactly. when the raiders lose, u laugh. not a raider fan.
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HAHHAA yeah its obvious
February 7th, 2013 at 3:55 pm
The Raiders have the 4th easiest schedule next season based on this years w/l record.
I think we are heading towards 9 wins minimum. Laugh and point fingers all you want. But remember who had optimism, next year at this time… with a few exceptions, I don’t see much of it here.
I’m guessing the average win total prediction from posters here with CP starting (and he IS starting all 16 games next season) would be 5 wins. Maybe even less…
February 7th, 2013 at 3:56 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 3:45 pm
Excuses . excuses . excuses. always excuses,
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that’s what liars and cowards do.
February 7th, 2013 at 3:57 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 3:49 pm
yep your jefferson / greek / cave man love concept is 180 degrees opposite of the Afrikan world view
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LOL! total clown.
February 7th, 2013 at 3:58 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 3:52 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 3:47 pm
JC is super bad, my god 12 qb rating against whiners, freaking horrible, dude was traded for a 4th rd pick by Mike freaking Shanahan to Al Davis of all the people lol
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mac but crust
if jc was ‘bad’ here
THEN WHAT THE FUGG HAS PALMER BEEN?!?!?
8-16 NEVER HIGHER THAN 3RD PLACE 37 TURNOVERS IN 24 STARTS??!?!?!
LMAO!!!!
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palmer will be a starting qb in 2013.
campbell will be a 3rd stringer or possibly out of the nfl.
February 7th, 2013 at 3:59 pm
dr_robert Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 3:57 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 3:49 pm
yep your jefferson / greek / cave man love concept is 180 degrees opposite of the Afrikan world view
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LOL! total clown.
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Pocket QB 34 – Garbage stuff 31 most points coming in garbage time
February 7th, 2013 at 3:59 pm
no dummy. not when u TELL everyone. not deception. it was a joke. ur just too stupid to understand i guess.
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All cross posting btches thinks it a joke, Dr Dumbass
Trolls, rather surprisingly, dispute this, claiming that it’s a game or joke; this merely confirms the diagnosis; how sad do you have to be to find such mind-numbingly trivial timewasting to be funny?
http://www.flayme.com/troll/#Why
February 7th, 2013 at 4:00 pm
Want to sign a big name, then sign Barwin, but I am sure Reggie will go wheeler route again this year. And btw Bowe who some buys here like, I would not bite at all will wind up being overpaid. I think receiver is set, and if dhb wants to restructure great otherwise kick rocks, I like him but so overpaid.
February 7th, 2013 at 4:00 pm
missdick’s evaluation abilities are stooge-like. he has no cred. never seen him be right about anything that a million others already knew.
February 7th, 2013 at 4:00 pm
palmer will be a starting qb in 2013.
campbell will be a 3rd stringer or possibly out of the nfl.
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M1stic is campbells mom, always overrating him , but the guy is probably headed to CFL in couple of years
LMAO!!!
February 7th, 2013 at 4:01 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 3:51 pm
How many wins again by Carolinas #1 pick 2 years ago? and how many pick 6s and bone headed plays by that guy in the clutch this year?
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Cam newton you mean?
took his team from 2-14 to 7-9 (improved his team win total both years as a pro
rewriting the record books in 2011 too many rookie records to list, and 2012 with more passing yards and rushing yards than any qb in the history of the nfl over thier firs two years.
62 tds vs 35 turn overs
carson cant come close to any of these points.
no where near the tds, more turn overs and only 8 wins
lol
cam has more wins ,more tds ,less turnovers.
Palmer isnt in the same universe as Cam
February 7th, 2013 at 4:03 pm
The parking situation at the LA Coliseum was spotty at best and not cheap. We were. So the hand made signs for $5 dollar parking were appealing.
We were lucky to have an operable vehicle to leave with.
We began parking anywhere in the vicinity of the Coliseum with mixed results.
Wound up on Budlong and 42nd? 43rd? And parked there for a year or so.
Granny on the porch asked if we were going to the game and after saying yes, asked her if we could bring her anything next week, next game.She said no, we did anyway, and nobody was gonna fck wth our car while granny was on the porch.
A better solution occured later.
February 7th, 2013 at 4:04 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 4:01 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 3:51 pm
How many wins again by Carolinas #1 pick 2 years ago? and how many pick 6s and bone headed plays by that guy in the clutch this year?
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Cam newton you mean?
took his team from 2-14 to 7-9 (improved his team win total both years as a pro
rewriting the record books in 2011 too many rookie records to list, and 2012 with more passing yards and rushing yards than any qb in the history of the nfl over thier firs two years.
62 tds vs 35 turn overs
carson cant come close to any of these points.
no where near the tds, more turn overs and only 8 wins
lol
cam has more wins ,more tds ,less turnovers.
Palmer isnt in the same universe as Cam
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They didn’t draft him #1 to re-write the personal records and go 13-19 , they drafted him to make the playoffs, which was a failure, complete collapse , they will give that cry baby one last chance, just like AL Davis gave Ja loser a chance, to see if he would give something in return for that #1 pick
February 7th, 2013 at 4:05 pm
Without going racial, this area around USC is totally black.
February 7th, 2013 at 4:05 pm
NEWTON sucks he will never win his division Matty Ice and Drew Brees have the NFC SOUTH on lockdown
February 7th, 2013 at 4:06 pm
Can we have a moderator intervention?
February 7th, 2013 at 4:06 pm
LOL ya Purvis thats bcuz USC is in WATTS totally ghetto
February 7th, 2013 at 4:06 pm
Give it a rest MR!
February 7th, 2013 at 4:08 pm
Guys btw I am white and want palmer gone and to see pryor start, just wanted to add to the insanity
February 7th, 2013 at 4:08 pm
too funny
i have never cross posted
February 7th, 2013 at 4:09 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 4:03 pm
The parking situation at the LA Coliseum was spotty at best and not cheap. We were. So the hand made signs for $5 dollar parking were appealing.
We were lucky to have an operable vehicle to leave with.
We began parking anywhere in the vicinity of the Coliseum with mixed results.
Wound up on Budlong and 42nd? 43rd? And parked there for a year or so.
Granny on the porch asked if we were going to the game and after saying yes, asked her if we could bring her anything next week, next game.She said no, we did anyway, and nobody was gonna fck wth our car while granny was on the porch.
A better solution occured later.
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I remeber as kid that alot of people would park in residences close to the Coliseum for a few bucks during games, my uncle would sell merchandise outside and get is us tickets that scalpers were giving away before the end of the 1st quarter… Parking is a cash cow for churches around the area these days for USC games…
February 7th, 2013 at 4:09 pm
elraidmanhattan Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 4:08 pm
Guys btw I am white and want palmer gone and to see pryor start, just wanted to add to the insanity
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excellent
they cant look beyond the skin color of the qb and they base their entire schtick on it
February 7th, 2013 at 4:10 pm
Just trying to bring this discourse back to reasonable people. Who’s with me?
February 7th, 2013 at 4:10 pm
1217. Of course they’re done, so is Magaluna, that’s what makes them avaliable to us. But they still have something to offer in a reserve roll. We need a power back to change the pace of DMC and Goodson, we need a Veteran Cornerback and Newman can still be good, if not then he’s another bartell and gone by mid season
February 7th, 2013 at 4:10 pm
Pryor stinks no thanks
February 7th, 2013 at 4:10 pm
Ian grow up put.Newton in place of brees and ryan, playoffs period
February 7th, 2013 at 4:11 pm
Actually Ian85, USC is in South Central…
February 7th, 2013 at 4:11 pm
Yes Carson Palmer is not in the same universe as Scam Newton
Carson Palmer first 2 years 19 – 13
Scam Newton 13-19
SO your right Carson is not on the same universe as SCam Newton
LMAO!!!
February 7th, 2013 at 4:11 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 4:05 pm
Without going racial, this area around USC is totally black.
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a long time ago, i was considering USC for grad school. in a brochure talking about the various film schools, it said regarding housing: “You can stay near the campus, where rent is cheap and life is cheaper, or you can look for plentiful off-campus options in the surrounding area.”
i always thought it was funny, though sad. that area is very bad. the first time i went there to scout for a place to live, i was talking to a cop on sunset while they were shooting a commercial there. i told him i had rolled thru that part of town and he said “Don’t do that again!” he was really serious and told me i was putting my and my girl in jeopardy just driving thru. it looked like a battle zone.
February 7th, 2013 at 4:12 pm
EXPOSED
February 7th, 2013 at 4:13 pm
Carolina will cut Scam Newton if he doesn’t get them over .500 in his third year
February 7th, 2013 at 4:14 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 4:10 pm
Just trying to bring this discourse back to reasonable people. Who’s with me?
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oh, ok.
February 7th, 2013 at 4:15 pm
Elraidmanhattan Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 4:08 pm
Guys btw I am white and want palmer gone and to see pryor start, just wanted to add to the insanity
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that’s fine. ur wrong, but ok.
u do know the clown wants to kill u with his machete thought, right?
February 7th, 2013 at 4:15 pm
Washington wants a superbowl for Kingsransom they gave up for RGIII or he will be gone after 3 years
February 7th, 2013 at 4:15 pm
Malaluga done, hey idiot sorry but you are pissing me off he was drafted same year as cushing and mattnews are they done?
Wake up see the light and stop the sub moronic behavior, we suck, and to get back to the old raiders we need to cleanout the rest of the house!
Mistic please get the nation to realize that palmer will not lead this team to the promised land, but he is just part of the problem!
February 7th, 2013 at 4:16 pm
Sorry ELRAID Newton can’t hold Brees or Ryans jock please get out of here with that schit
February 7th, 2013 at 4:17 pm
So, after parking on budlong with black granny as security for a year or two, I discovered that calling the Museum of Natural History on Monday morning between 8 AM and 10 AM Before a game got you an assigned parking spot. Across the lawn from the Coliseum.
You could arrive two hours early or one hour late. You got in. Awesome!
February 7th, 2013 at 4:18 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 4:04 pm
cam has more wins ,more tds ,less turnovers.
Palmer isnt in the same universe as Cam
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They didn’t draft him #1 to re-write the personal records
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cam newton was drafted to improve the panthers and eventually compete for the super bowl.
check from 2 wins before him to 6 wins to 7 wins
palmer from 4 wins to 4 wins
IN fact palmer hasnt won more than 4 games in a season since 2009?!?!?!
February 7th, 2013 at 4:18 pm
i think newton’s pretty good actually. but he lacks maturity.
February 7th, 2013 at 4:18 pm
And It Was FREE!!
February 7th, 2013 at 4:19 pm
qb’s don’t win games, teams do. anyone saying otherwise is football-ignorant, and/or trying to scam u. u figure it out.
February 7th, 2013 at 4:20 pm
Mistic the IQ Vacuum is shifting the topic to dumping CP for Pryor… with the help of his sock puppets.
And the complete moron Roberts is pretending he is smarter than him… falling right into his IQ vacuum.
And nearly every other poster follows suit.
Mistic leaves a few hours later pleased with turning everyone’s brain into mush.
Repeat daily… usually twice a day. Its like everyone is completely helpless to ignore him.
Its kinda fascinating really…
But I choose not to play.
-poof-
February 7th, 2013 at 4:20 pm
Purvisman, what is your take… would you like the Raiders to come back to LA or stay an rebuild in Oakland…
February 7th, 2013 at 4:21 pm
Anything else you want to know about the LA Coliseum experience or the Miss Tick Dr_Rob/ Madden Raider situation, I’ll be here for a while.
February 7th, 2013 at 4:22 pm
I just want my team to be the badass team they use to be damn it 10 plus years of embarrassment do you guys really think Reggie wants to destroy this team? Please grasp reality, he wants this team to be what it should be. This is one hella of a job to resurrect this team, in fact it sucks because he can’t pick matuazak off waivers and trade for hendricks, he has such a herculean task
February 7th, 2013 at 4:22 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 4:18 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 4:04 pm
cam has more wins ,more tds ,less turnovers.
Palmer isnt in the same universe as Cam
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They didn’t draft him #1 to re-write the personal records
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cam newton was drafted to improve the panthers and eventually compete for the super bowl.
check from 2 wins before him to 6 wins to 7 wins
palmer from 4 wins to 4 wins
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2 years before Newton got there Carolina won 12 games. When was the last time the Raiders won 12 games? Or the bungholes?
February 7th, 2013 at 4:22 pm
Andrew Luck took his team from 2 wins to 11 in his first year and a playoff berth he’s running circles around ur boy scam
February 7th, 2013 at 4:23 pm
Mistic
CP #1 pick went 19-13 first two years
Cam Newton #1 pick went 13-19 first two years
Do the math
February 7th, 2013 at 4:23 pm
Dan78 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 4:20 pm
Purvisman, what is your take… would you like the Raiders to come back to LA or stay an rebuild in Oakland…
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my answer is longer than I have right now. Give me a few minutes. I have
February 7th, 2013 at 4:24 pm
The Raiders are buying up all kinds of properties in Oakland.
The Raiders are in regular meetings with Oakland City officials.
They have announced publicly that they are actively seeking to build a new stadium at the current Coliseum location.
The Raiders are spending a large chunk of their own money to help finance a stadium proposal in Oakland.
And then last but not least, Commissioner Goodell has stated publicly in recent comments that he has 200 million dollars available to help the Raiders if they remain in Oakland.
Yet several of you are still choosing to ignore all of that evidence and say that all of this is indicative of a Raider move to LA.
Forgive me for ridiculing the sheer lunacy being expressed on this blog.
February 7th, 2013 at 4:24 pm
Ian I am not going to argue, but just for the hell of it, tell me about Newton’s weapons and then tell me who ryan and brees have. And if you dare say steve smith you lose, he is over 32.
February 7th, 2013 at 4:25 pm
notice how dr slob ian and mcnumb nuts have chased all other posters off the board
wow
February 7th, 2013 at 4:27 pm
M1st1c which is better
Cp 19-13 first 2 years
or
your boy Scam Newton 13-19 first 2 years
February 7th, 2013 at 4:31 pm
Notice how mistic avoids the comments that don’t favor him
LMAO
February 7th, 2013 at 4:31 pm
Pocket Passer 34 – Garbage stuff ??? 31
February 7th, 2013 at 4:32 pm
Better luck next year tick tock
LMAO !!!
February 7th, 2013 at 4:32 pm
Hey Mistic, these guys really think we are playoff material can you exhaust yourself and state that we are true raider fans and admit we need another year of restructure
February 7th, 2013 at 4:34 pm
ELraid who r Carson Palmers weapons
February 7th, 2013 at 4:34 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 2:39 pm
Any blogger who claims to know where the Raiders will be playing in 5 years, is……….speculating, just like everybody else.
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Dude. IHOP is building a new stadium for the Raiders. They will be in Oakland.
BTW, your right. ian85 and dr rob are the same person.
February 7th, 2013 at 4:35 pm
Mcfadden20 = biggest troll ever.
February 7th, 2013 at 4:36 pm
ElRaid r u serious u think Mistic is a Raider fan the man has said plenty of times he only cares about the Raiders when they have a black QB ya that’s a real fan all right LMFAO
February 7th, 2013 at 4:37 pm
I would love to buy into the idea of Coliseum City except our country is broke and the Chinese don’t give a damn about American football.
February 7th, 2013 at 4:37 pm
D:
try to trade if not cut kelly, mcclain
draft star
draft best olb rusher in the third
draft best ilb in the 4th
resign bryant
resign hanson (if he fits the scheme)
resign wheeler
O:
cut DHB, Briesel
try to trade CP
try to find a trade for palmer
sign a lg
sign a rt
resign myers
sign a big back
ST:
cut lechler
D:
bryant star houston
wheeler 4th rounder burris 3rd rounder
hanson chimdi
branch huff
O:
veldheer fa wiz bertstrom fa
myers moore streater ford criner
reece dmac fa
palmer/pryor
ST:
king
lechler
ford
February 7th, 2013 at 4:37 pm
@ArmChair GM
You have to admit the Raiders will continue to flirt with the idea that they are moving to L.A. with the intention of lighting a fire under the city of Oakland to move towards building a new stadium.
This does confuse many posters…
February 7th, 2013 at 4:38 pm
We have real fools here who think this team should be loved and respected and glorified, can’t accept real football facts that we are in deep doodoo and need to clean it up, wake up guys palmer is not the future, and I will take another hit to get back to respectability even with him gone
February 7th, 2013 at 4:38 pm
1255. Yeah Ray is done, he’s not as good as Cushing or Mathewes. Seems like he either never developed right in Cincy or he never recovered from Ward breaking his jaw but he is just as done. However if he does get signed by us, then i’ll believe he’s due for a comeback year just like everyone else we sign
February 7th, 2013 at 4:38 pm
ST:
king
lechler
ford
king
jano
ford
i meant
February 7th, 2013 at 4:38 pm
IGAG,
Any serious developments between Reggie and IHOP’s people?
February 7th, 2013 at 4:38 pm
IGAG must be MISTIC notice how MISTIC leaves then IGAG shows up fcking comical
February 7th, 2013 at 4:39 pm
mcbootlicker…had to give up your seat huh?
February 7th, 2013 at 4:39 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 4:23 pm
Mistic
CP #1 pick went 19-13 first two years
Cam Newton #1 pick went 13-19 first two years
Do the math
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lol 6 games?
even if palmers first two season are worth 6 more wins it is meaningless in terms of what is happening now.
in his first two years cam has 13 wins
in palmers last 3 years he has 12
ugly truth
February 7th, 2013 at 4:39 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 3:49 pm
Dennis Allen was a promoted prematurely, but we’ve really got no choice but to hope for his success.
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The guy shows 0 ability to adapt on the fly, whether in-game (adjusting game plan) or in-season (canning crap coaches, like John Harbaugh did).
But yes, we are stuck.
February 7th, 2013 at 4:40 pm
The last hours are unreadable other then Purvis.
Funny in few words.
Take note Beecham!!!
February 7th, 2013 at 4:40 pm
elraidmanhattan Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 4:32 pm
Hey Mistic, these guys really think we are playoff material can you exhaust yourself and state that we are true raider fans and admit we need another year of restructure
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I like how you told him to exhaust himself LMAO , the guy does that every day anyways, he doesn’t need to be told to do anything stupid, his real name is Stupid
February 7th, 2013 at 4:40 pm
reggie has convinced ihop to finally convinced mcxcuse20 a job…
February 7th, 2013 at 4:41 pm
Wonder if the wanna be blog personality will be joing his brotherhood in Tennessee
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/07/16888425-kkk-leader-vows-mass-rally-over-renaming-of-confederate-themed-parks?lite
February 7th, 2013 at 4:41 pm
I’d rather keep lechler over King, we’ve only seen him in 3 preseason games and he had like 3-4 pretty bad kicks in that limited duty.
February 7th, 2013 at 4:42 pm
So what uniform number do you guys think Geno will pick?
February 7th, 2013 at 4:42 pm
Ian please go on the internet and tell me who brees and ryan have. You are going to tell me that moor. Streater and myers compare? Also, maybe Mistic may be pro “black” but I could give 2 sh!ts he is right in this case
Waiting for your reply
February 7th, 2013 at 4:42 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 4:22 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 4:18 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 4:04 pm
cam has more wins ,more tds ,less turnovers.
Palmer isnt in the same universe as Cam
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They didn’t draft him #1 to re-write the personal records
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cam newton was drafted to improve the panthers and eventually compete for the super bowl.
check from 2 wins before him to 6 wins to 7 wins
palmer from 4 wins to 4 wins
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2 years before Newton got there Carolina won 12 games. When was the last time the Raiders won 12 games? Or the bungholes?
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bush two years before cam they had a completely different team than what cam inherited
I have already documented the roster turn over and there were less than 20 players on cams team from the 12 win team two years prior
the turn over included the coaching staff as well lmao
wow these cats are cracked
February 7th, 2013 at 4:42 pm
I’ve already anylized the 2nd and 3rd generations of the initial Mistic/ Dr_rob thingy. Don’t have the energy to explain it to the few remaining real posters here.
February 7th, 2013 at 4:43 pm
back to twisting and turning things, LMAO ,
Carson Palmer constantly had his team fighting for a playoff spot in tough division 19-13 first 2 years
Scam Newtons division isn’t even that tough, only 13-19 ,
Carson was 27-21 first 3 yeards , scam has to go 14-2 to match that or better to beat that
February 7th, 2013 at 4:43 pm
King will have competition and Shane will have a new team.
Shane struggled last year at times.
February 7th, 2013 at 4:43 pm
Where is Beeecham when we need him?
February 7th, 2013 at 4:43 pm
Maybe Geno will take #2 since Ford has #12
February 7th, 2013 at 4:44 pm
Is it ritalin, MR? Cut back. Where’s Mom?
February 7th, 2013 at 4:44 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 4:37 pm
@ArmChair GM
You have to admit the Raiders will continue to flirt with the idea that they are moving to L.A. with the intention of lighting a fire under the city of Oakland to move towards building a new stadium.
This does confuse many posters…
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DutchRaider77-
Don’t take this negatively because I don’t mean it that way…
I have posted several links of verified news over the last 60 days from The Raiders, The City of Oakland, and the NFL, all affirming their commitment to Oakland.
Can you find any link within the last 90 days, from a credible source, that is not just mere media speculation, that the Raiders have any interest whatsoever in moving to LA.
I’ll wait…
February 7th, 2013 at 4:45 pm
Wait til supavillian realizes his future consist of being a houseboy for a Chinese billionaire.
February 7th, 2013 at 4:46 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 4:43 pm
King will have competition and Shane will have a new team.
Shane struggled last year at times.
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He didn’t have his usual 50-60 yard boots but he didn’t line drive em like King was doing. Shane’s the best in the league, why mess that up with a rookie experement?
February 7th, 2013 at 4:47 pm
Facts
Carson Palmer 19-13 first 2 years
Fig Newton 13-19 first 2 years
– so which team benefited the most? it’s obvious the Cincy did
Facts
Pocket passer 34
Garbage type of sh1t needed garbage time to make it even close 31
February 7th, 2013 at 4:47 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 4:31 pm
Notice how mistic avoids the comments that don’t favor him
LMAO
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yep
February 7th, 2013 at 4:48 pm
Hey McFadden I live in New York, love this team to death, More than anything I want this team to come back and dominate, but damn it takes time, and we have to suffer some more. Reggie was a raider he wants this team to succeed, anybody who thinks opposite is a fool, palmer creates a real issue, because Reggie wants him gone, not because he sucks, because he is the past
February 7th, 2013 at 4:48 pm
Elraidmanhattan Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 4:32 pm
Hey Mistic, these guys really think we are playoff material can you exhaust yourself and state that we are true raider fans and admit we need another year of restructure
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aww. ur making friends with the guy who wants to kill u. that’s sweet.
February 7th, 2013 at 4:49 pm
Ian85 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 4:36 pm
ElRaid r u serious u think Mistic is a Raider fan the man has said plenty of times he only cares about the Raiders when they have a black QB ya that’s a real fan all right LMFAO
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yep
February 7th, 2013 at 4:50 pm
Please , I really want to know, sincerely who wants this team to be great, please List your names
February 7th, 2013 at 4:50 pm
elraidmanhattan Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 4:48 pm
Hey McFadden I live in New York, love this team to death, More than anything I want this team to come back and dominate, but damn it takes time, and we have to suffer some more. Reggie was a raider he wants this team to succeed, anybody who thinks opposite is a fool, palmer creates a real issue, because Reggie wants him gone, not because he sucks, because he is the past
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I don’t have any problem with what Reg does to make this team better, as long as we win anyway we can, it won’t matter if a blue skin color guy is the qb
February 7th, 2013 at 4:51 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 4:39 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 4:23 pm
Mistic
CP #1 pick went 19-13 first two years
Cam Newton #1 pick went 13-19 first two years
Do the math
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lol 6 games?
even if palmers first two season are worth 6 more wins it is meaningless in terms of what is happening now.
in his first two years cam has 13 wins
in palmers last 3 years he has 12
ugly truth
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ugly bigot
February 7th, 2013 at 4:51 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 4:44 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 4:37 pm
@ArmChair GM
You have to admit the Raiders will continue to flirt with the idea that they are moving to L.A. with the intention of lighting a fire under the city of Oakland to move towards building a new stadium.
This does confuse many posters…
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DutchRaider77-
Don’t take this negatively because I don’t mean it that way…
I have posted several links of verified news over the last 60 days from The Raiders, The City of Oakland, and the NFL, all affirming their commitment to Oakland.
Can you find any link within the last 90 days, from a credible source, that is not just mere media speculation, that the Raiders have any interest whatsoever in moving to LA.
I’ll wait…
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Maybe you are misunderstanding my post, I agree with you. It is just media speculation…but Mark has said in the past that all options are on the table, I viewed this purely as rhetoric. I also have heard that Mayor Quan (sic) is firmly committed to a new stadium…things just move so slow.
February 7th, 2013 at 4:52 pm
bush two years before cam they had a completely different team than what cam inherited
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No it isn’t. Our team is not completely different from two years ago. And our team should be. Sure every team goes through changes but they have the same recievers, 2 best Olinemen, same running back, Dline is reworked, LB’s reworked and two of the same DB’s. You don’t take a 12 win team and dismantle it.
February 7th, 2013 at 4:52 pm
Elraidmanhattan Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 4:42 pm
Ian please go on the internet and tell me who brees and ryan have. You are going to tell me that moor. Streater and myers compare? Also, maybe Mistic may be pro “black” but I could give 2 sh!ts he is right in this case
Waiting for your reply
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he’s not pro black. he’s ant white. he hates u.
and pryor as starter would embarrass the raiders to the point of constant ridicule.
February 7th, 2013 at 4:52 pm
better luck next year tick tock, take care nation
February 7th, 2013 at 4:53 pm
elraidmanhattan Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 4:50 pm
Please , I really want to know, sincerely who wants this team to be great, please List your names
Seymour Bush
February 7th, 2013 at 4:53 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 4:40 pm
The last hours are unreadable other then Purvis.
Funny in few words.
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High praise from a poster I’ve always respected.
thank you, vegas.
February 7th, 2013 at 4:54 pm
425Raider Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 4:43 pm
Where is Beeecham when we need him?
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that’s never been the case.
and he’s in jail.
February 7th, 2013 at 4:55 pm
Please take note of the generous offer IHOP has put on the table for the Raiders.
IHOP buys out the financially troubled Raiders AND builds a new stadium called
IHOP FIELD STADIUM, HOUSE OF THE OAKLAND RAIDERS
Please support your local IHOP. I do, and so should you if you are a Raiders fan. Reg/DA do.
IGAG loves IHOP
February 7th, 2013 at 4:55 pm
Elraidmanhattan Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 4:50 pm
Please , I really want to know, sincerely who wants this team to be great, please List your names
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why don’t u ask who wants the raiders to be great with a black or white qb?
i’m in. ur new friend will not add his name.
February 7th, 2013 at 4:56 pm
Well, it’s time for High Tea. Be back soon from High Tea.
February 7th, 2013 at 4:57 pm
I’d think they had some kind of bot doing the posting, but it disappears after the drugs wear off.
The diligence is awe inspiring.
February 7th, 2013 at 4:57 pm
Twocents Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 4:45 pm
Wait til supavillian realizes his future consist of being a houseboy for a Chinese billionaire.
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what is meant by “house boy”
im a man
February 7th, 2013 at 4:57 pm
1325. If IHOP ever had any official link to the Raiders we can kiss any hope of Reggie’s dilligance in scouting good bye
February 7th, 2013 at 5:00 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 4:50 pm
elraidmanhattan Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 4:48 pm
Hey McFadden I live in New York, love this team to death, More than anything I want this team to come back and dominate, but damn it takes time, and we have to suffer some more. Reggie was a raider he wants this team to succeed, anybody who thinks opposite is a fool, palmer creates a real issue, because Reggie wants him gone, not because he sucks, because he is the past
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I don’t have any problem with what Reg does to make this team better, as long as we win anyway we can, it won’t matter if a blue skin color guy is the qb
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hey, aren’t a lot of indian gods blue?
February 7th, 2013 at 5:01 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 4:51 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 4:44 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 4:37 pm
@ArmChair GM
You have to admit the Raiders will continue to flirt with the idea that they are moving to L.A. with the intention of lighting a fire under the city of Oakland to move towards building a new stadium.
This does confuse many posters…
______________________________________________________
DutchRaider77-
Don’t take this negatively because I don’t mean it that way…
I have posted several links of verified news over the last 60 days from The Raiders, The City of Oakland, and the NFL, all affirming their commitment to Oakland.
Can you find any link within the last 90 days, from a credible source, that is not just mere media speculation, that the Raiders have any interest whatsoever in moving to LA.
I’ll wait…
________________________________________________
Maybe you are misunderstanding my post, I agree with you. It is just media speculation…but Mark has said in the past that all options are on the table, I viewed this purely as rhetoric. I also have heard that Mayor Quan (sic) is firmly committed to a new stadium…things just move so slow.
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I understand your point DutchRaider. And I wasn’t attacking you in my post. My apologies if it came off that way. And yes, in the past, especially when Mark first took over ownership of the team, he did vocalize that all options were on the table.
But within the past year, both sides have been working much more closely with all parties involved giving their vote of confidence to the Raiders staying in Oakland.
My point is how posters can ignore the clear evidence and push their own agendas. Whereas if the exact same commitment was being made by all parties towards an LA stadium these same posters would be ranting about how a move to LA had overwhelming evidence.
It is this double standard, and selective review of evidence that I am exposing here.
February 7th, 2013 at 5:01 pm
I only want to discuss facts, so maybe you guys are spot on about Mistic, but even if he wants a black qb, in this case he is right. And please I want to get past that. I just think the raiders should have given more time to pryor, that is all I really have no beef with anyone here, but the misconception that we have to justify the palmer trade and he is a savior is pure delusion. I think pryor is a straight up guy and I am looking at 2014
February 7th, 2013 at 5:01 pm
missdick the house boy. seems about right.
February 7th, 2013 at 5:01 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 4:52 pm
bush two years before cam they had a completely different team than what cam inherited
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No it isn’t. Our team is not completely different from two years ago. And our team should be. Sure every team goes through changes but they have the same recievers, 2 best Olinemen, same running back, Dline is reworked, LB’s reworked and two of the same DB’s. You don’t take a 12 win team and dismantle it.
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i didnt mention the raiders bush
what is meant by “reworked”?
of the 53 man roster that posted 12 wins, how many were on cams rookie team? Ill wait
yes they did ‘dismantle” the team they went 2-14 and the coaching staff was canned
we have been through this and your stance that cam inherited a 12 win team is ludicris
the nfl says that they were 2-14 the year before he was drafted
February 7th, 2013 at 5:02 pm
mcxcuse back to waiting tables…
February 7th, 2013 at 5:03 pm
Elraidmanhattan Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 5:01 pm
I only want to discuss facts, so maybe you guys are spot on about Mistic, but even if he wants a black qb, in this case he is right. And please I want to get past that. I just think the raiders should have given more time to pryor, that is all I really have no beef with anyone here, but the misconception that we have to justify the palmer trade and he is a savior is pure delusion. I think pryor is a straight up guy and I am looking at 2014
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who exactly ever aid he was a savior? or that the trade needed to be justified?
palmer is a good qb. he’s here. pryor can’t throw an nfl-quality pass. he would be the worst qb in the nfl, bar none.
February 7th, 2013 at 5:04 pm
elraidmanhattan Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 5:01 pm
I only want to discuss facts, so maybe you guys are spot on about Mistic, but even if he wants a black qb, in this case he is right.
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you could simply ask me to find out what my take is
i have never said anything about “wanting a black qb”
that is the nonsensical racist trash that these loser post
They cant help but divide qbs along race classification and skin color.
they are obsessed and this is only a topic for them when it comes to the qb position
February 7th, 2013 at 5:07 pm
Wow, you know my last stud years were with gruden as coach, I want that so bad, sure I a still a stud, but my point is that I also lost a bit of my swagger and now I have to wait again a bit, but I know Reggie wants one thing and that is the same.
February 7th, 2013 at 5:09 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 5:04 pm
elraidmanhattan Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 5:01 pm
I only want to discuss facts, so maybe you guys are spot on about Mistic, but even if he wants a black qb, in this case he is right.
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you could simply ask me to find out what my take is
i have never said anything about “wanting a black qb”
that is the nonsensical racist trash that these loser post
They cant help but divide qbs along race classification and skin color.
they are obsessed and this is only a topic for them when it comes to the qb position
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ahh yes, the trickster. he never “says” it. but every qb he ever touts is black. and he’ll throw in an occasional white guy as a token.
this is the guy who claimed troy smith, joe, webb, and dennis dixon were fantastic.
he loves pryor, russell, and campbell. hates palmer and gradkowski.
noticing a trend?
on the other hand, i’m on record saying i want to draft geno and i loved culpepper and brooks.
just cuz he never says it doesn’t mean we can’t use our intelligence to see it.
if it talks like a bigot, it is one.
ask him how many white qb’s he likes in the nfl.
February 7th, 2013 at 5:11 pm
elraidmanhattan Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 5:01 pm
I only want to discuss facts, so maybe you guys are spot on about Mistic, but even if he wants a black qb, in this case he is right. And please I want to get past that. I just think the raiders should have given more time to pryor, that is all I really have no beef with anyone here, but the misconception that we have to justify the palmer trade and he is a savior is pure delusion. I think pryor is a straight up guy and I am looking at 2014
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Actually Mistic is not right about this. Terrell Pryor has been on the Raider roster for a year and a half. And in that time we have not heard from players, or coaches or seen with our own eyes one thing that would jump out and say, “this guy is a real NFL Q”.
Remember the Al Saunders comment when Carson Palmer reported to practice and he said, “Now THAT’S what an NFL QB looks like.” No one has said that except a handful of very uninformed posters. And if we go to his one game tape, we see EXACTLY what the problem is: terrible mechanics, no accuracy, and questionable decision making. If he had ONE of those issues, maybe, just maybe, he might have a future. But with all three he should work on his receiving skills.
February 7th, 2013 at 5:11 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 1st, 2013 at 4:49 pm
You can root for the team logo, I will root for the player in this case.
i like watching black men succeed, and what ever (white owned) team they play for doesnt matter.
it does no good for us to fight about it, neither of us benefit from what happens when one white owner pits his organization against another white owners org.
i stand with black or afrikan all over the earth there are 4 billion 4 hundred million of us.
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does this sound like a man who doesn’t differentiate between color? or a man who is a raiders fan?
February 7th, 2013 at 5:13 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 5:11 pm
elraidmanhattan Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 5:01 pm
I only want to discuss facts, so maybe you guys are spot on about Mistic, but even if he wants a black qb, in this case he is right. And please I want to get past that. I just think the raiders should have given more time to pryor, that is all I really have no beef with anyone here, but the misconception that we have to justify the palmer trade and he is a savior is pure delusion. I think pryor is a straight up guy and I am looking at 2014
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Actually Mistic is not right about this. Terrell Pryor has been on the Raider roster for a year and a half. And in that time we have not heard from players, or coaches or seen with our own eyes one thing that would jump out and say, “this guy is a real NFL Q”.
Remember the Al Saunders comment when Carson Palmer reported to practice and he said, “Now THAT’S what an NFL QB looks like.” No one has said that except a handful of very uninformed posters. And if we go to his one game tape, we see EXACTLY what the problem is: terrible mechanics, no accuracy, and questionable decision making. If he had ONE of those issues, maybe, just maybe, he might have a future. But with all three he should work on his receiving skills.
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precisely. and missdick’s insistence otherwise shows he is completely ignorant and/or totally biased and doesn’t care at all about the raiders.
February 7th, 2013 at 5:13 pm
Mistic I have no question with you at all, I am here as a raider diehard, I just know that Palmer was an overpaid guy that was content to retire, and Reggie came here took a big gulp and said damn that deal sucked, and now he is screwed. As I said it is not about palmer, but he is part of current predicament I don’t hate him, but he has to go
February 7th, 2013 at 5:14 pm
dr_robert Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 5:09 pm
you could simply ask me to find out what my take is
i have never said anything about “wanting a black qb”
that is the nonsensical racist trash that these loser post
They cant help but divide qbs along race classification and skin color.
they are obsessed and this is only a topic for them when it comes to the qb position
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ahh yes, the trickster. he never “says” it. but every qb he ever touts is black. and he’ll throw in an occasional white guy as a token.
this is the guy who claimed troy smith, joe, webb, and dennis dixon were fantastic.
he loves pryor, russell, and campbell. hates palmer and gradkowski.
noticing a trend?
on the other hand, i’m on record saying i want to draft geno and i loved culpepper and brooks.
just cuz he never says it doesn’t mean we can’t use our intelligence to see it.
if it talks like a bigot, it is one.
ask him how many white qb’s he likes in the nfl.
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dr slob is a pathological liar
dont put words in my mouth
I loved campbell he won here
I love pryor he is super talented and is the wave of the future
I dislike gradkowsi he turned the ball over and lost
I dislike palmer he quit on cincy, turns it over and looses
I loved russel when he was drafted disliked him when i saw him smoking weed in the parking lot the night before a game outside the club, the year before his release
why are you trying to impose a qouta on what qbs i root for based on skin color?
oh because you are a racist
February 7th, 2013 at 5:15 pm
Elraidmanhattan Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 5:13 pm
Mistic I have no question with you at all, I am here as a raider diehard, I just know that Palmer was an overpaid guy that was content to retire, and Reggie came here took a big gulp and said damn that deal sucked, and now he is screwed. As I said it is not about palmer, but he is part of current predicament I don’t hate him, but he has to go
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u have to have a replacement. pryor is not that.
February 7th, 2013 at 5:15 pm
elraidmanhattan Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 5:13 pm
Mistic I have no question with you at all, I am here as a raider diehard, I just know that Palmer was an overpaid guy that was content to retire, and Reggie came here took a big gulp and said damn that deal sucked, and now he is screwed. As I said it is not about palmer, but he is part of current predicament I don’t hate him, but he has to go
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agreed 100%
we were stuck with him last year (thanks hu jack)
we may not be stuck much longer
February 7th, 2013 at 5:17 pm
Elraidmanhattan Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 5:13 pm
Mistic I have no question with you at all, I am here as a raider diehard, I just know that Palmer was an overpaid guy that was content to retire, and Reggie came here took a big gulp and said damn that deal sucked, and now he is screwed. As I said it is not about palmer, but he is part of current predicament I don’t hate him, but he has to go
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Agreed!
February 7th, 2013 at 5:18 pm
I guess that damned trade was why Hue was fired.
February 7th, 2013 at 5:18 pm
dr_robert Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 5:11 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 1st, 2013 at 4:49 pm
You can root for the team logo, I will root for the player in this case.
i like watching black men succeed, and what ever (white owned) team they play for doesnt matter.
it does no good for us to fight about it, neither of us benefit from what happens when one white owner pits his organization against another white owners org.
i stand with black or afrikan all over the earth there are 4 billion 4 hundred million of us.
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does this sound like a man who doesn’t differentiate between color? or a man who is a raiders fan?
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this is a discussion between 2 black men specifically about this years superbowl sf and colin kaepernic. It has nothing to do with the raiders.
why does affirming brotherhood amongst my people bother you?
what does it have to do with you at all?
February 7th, 2013 at 5:18 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 5:14 pm
dr slob is a pathological liar
dont put words in my mouth
why are you trying to impose a qouta on what qbs i root for based on skin color?
oh because you are a racist
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Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 1st, 2013 at 4:49 pm
You can root for the team logo, I will root for the player in this case.
i like watching black men succeed, and what ever (white owned) team they play for doesnt matter.
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these are ur words. u root for black men, not the raiders. u said it.
u call everyone racist and white supremacist, with no cause.
u refer to your own country as amerikkka.
i don’t lie. u do. i love black people. u hate white people.
ur a coward, a liar, and a bigot.
February 7th, 2013 at 5:20 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 5:18 pm
why does affirming brotherhood amongst my people bother you?
what does it have to do with you at all?
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u don’t have people. race is a fallacy. didn’t u say that urself?
February 7th, 2013 at 5:21 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 5:18 pm
I guess that damned trade was why Hue was fired.
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If it was only because of that trade, Mark has only himself to blame for giving a rookie HC that much authority.
February 7th, 2013 at 5:21 pm
It is amazing raider fans could care less if the qb was white or black’ remember Al drafted Dickey years ago never saw black and white only production. In this case yes Pryor should be our qb, and damn again, I am white and jewish!
February 7th, 2013 at 5:23 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 5:11 pm
elraidmanhattan Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 5:01 pm
I only want to discuss facts, so maybe you guys are spot on about Mistic, but even if he wants a black qb, in this case he is right. And please I want to get past that. I just think the raiders should have given more time to pryor, that is all I really have no beef with anyone here, but the misconception that we have to justify the palmer trade and he is a savior is pure delusion. I think pryor is a straight up guy and I am looking at 2014
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Actually Mistic is not right about this. Terrell Pryor has been on the Raider roster for a year and a half.
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he was uspended for the first 5 games last year he had no chance to show anyone what he could do, including the coaching staff
this year he showed in preseason then was buried by knapp and da and made # 3
he didnt get to practice until he ran scout for the carolina game and ever since he has wowed the raiders staff.
first forcing his way into gimmick plays and packages. then eventually beating lienart in his first practice with the 1’s.
He did this with only half of the reps in the practice.
truly he was ignored until the carolina week, and now he will battle to start.
lol
February 7th, 2013 at 5:23 pm
Elraidmanhattan Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 5:21 pm
It is amazing raider fans could care less if the qb was white or black’ remember Al drafted Dickey years ago never saw black and white only production. In this case yes Pryor should be our qb, and damn again, I am white and jewish!
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if u think pryor is an nfl-ready qb, then i don’t think u know the game very well.
February 7th, 2013 at 5:23 pm
Elraidmanhattan Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 5:13 pm
Mistic I have no question with you at all, I am here as a raider diehard, I just know that Palmer was an overpaid guy that was content to retire, and Reggie came here took a big gulp and said damn that deal sucked, and now he is screwed. As I said it is not about palmer, but he is part of current predicament I don’t hate him, but he has to go
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When you have an average passing game with absolutely NO running attack, below average blocking, and below average receivers, something had to be waaay ABOVE average for that to happen. That was Palmer.
February 7th, 2013 at 5:24 pm
Palmer would not find a job anywhere, if we cut him too bad, but he is done get over it
February 7th, 2013 at 5:26 pm
dr_robert Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 5:18 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 5:14 pm
dr slob is a pathological liar
dont put words in my mouth
why are you trying to impose a qouta on what qbs i root for based on skin color?
oh because you are a racist
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Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 1st, 2013 at 4:49 pm
You can root for the team logo, I will root for the player in this case.
i like watching black men succeed, and what ever (white owned) team they play for doesnt matter.
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these are ur words. u root for black men, not the raiders.
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my words as they pertained to that particular game and colin kaeprnic the 3rd black man to start in a super bowl.
Historical significance for the nfl and black people.
The raiders have nothing to do with it , they didnt even qualify for the playoffs thanks to palmer
February 7th, 2013 at 5:26 pm
Elraidmanhattan Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 5:24 pm
Palmer would not find a job anywhere, if we cut him too bad, but he is done get over it
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LOL! proof u have a lot to learn about the nfl. if we cut palmer, he will be a starter signed immediately by any of ten teams.
if we cut pryor, a few teams would be interested in looking at him as a wr. not a qb.
February 7th, 2013 at 5:27 pm
Doc please I never said Pryor was polished, but I rather him learn on the job then see carson pad meaningless stats, and if we were truly playoff ready then I would love to see the competition, but we are not.
February 7th, 2013 at 5:28 pm
Elraidmanhattan Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 5:24 pm
Palmer would not find a job anywhere, if we cut him too bad, but he is done get over it
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Seriously?
February 7th, 2013 at 5:30 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 5:26 pm
The raiders have nothing to do with it , they didnt even qualify for the playoffs thanks to palmer
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LOL! u think they would have made the playoffs with pryor or anyone else? too stupid for words.
ur the kind of idiot who thinks qb’s win or lose games, even though they don’t play defense or run the ball, or play special teams. they are directly involved with 25% of their team’s plays. and in those, they rely on playcalling and recievers.
ur either football ignorant or u don’t care what the results are, u want a black qb.
u have admitted u only follow the raiders if they have a black qb.
u have admitted u won’t watch next season if palmer is the starter.
u have admitted u didn’t watch this season after the preseason.
ur a misinformed bigot.
February 7th, 2013 at 5:30 pm
elraidmanhattan Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 5:24 pm
Palmer would not find a job anywhere, if we cut him too bad, but he is done get over it
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I don’t know about that, he would be a good fit with the Vikings. Mistic compared Palmer to Kerry Collins?
Kerry Collins took Tenn to the Playoffs on the back of Chris Johnson. I think Palmer could take Minnesota back to the playoffs on the back of AP…
February 7th, 2013 at 5:30 pm
whats with some of these posts? what the heck do they have to do with the raiders? All i can say as a purple alien from another planet who landed in the raider nation, if somebody prefers africa, take you hue man ass back there. Have to think racism is alive and well, and I am not talking about humans.
February 7th, 2013 at 5:31 pm
It amazes me that so many don’t have “gray area” in their perspectives.
All or nothing. lol
February 7th, 2013 at 5:31 pm
Palmer signed by a top ten team, the prosecution rests my job is done, it is obvious that you are living in 1990 or a white supremist
February 7th, 2013 at 5:31 pm
Elraidmanhattan Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 5:27 pm
Doc please I never said Pryor was polished, but I rather him learn on the job then see carson pad meaningless stats, and if we were truly playoff ready then I would love to see the competition, but we are not.
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pryor’s passing would give us the most miserable season ever.
it would kill the franchise.
quick turnarounds are possible. there is the draft and FA. palmer still has about 4 years in him.
February 7th, 2013 at 5:31 pm
dr_robert Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 5:20 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 5:18 pm
why does affirming brotherhood amongst my people bother you?
what does it have to do with you at all?
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u don’t have people. race is a fallacy. didn’t u say that urself?
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there are 4 billion 4 hundred million black/ Afrikan people on earth
classifying by skin color (race) = white supremacist machination
My genetics the ability to produce black/ Afrikan off spring and pan Afrikan consciousness bond me with the other 4 billion
your opinion is unwanted and holds no weight with us
February 7th, 2013 at 5:32 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 5:23 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 5:11 pm
elraidmanhattan Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 5:01 pm
I only want to discuss facts, so maybe you guys are spot on about Mistic, but even if he wants a black qb, in this case he is right. And please I want to get past that. I just think the raiders should have given more time to pryor, that is all I really have no beef with anyone here, but the misconception that we have to justify the palmer trade and he is a savior is pure delusion. I think pryor is a straight up guy and I am looking at 2014
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Actually Mistic is not right about this. Terrell Pryor has been on the Raider roster for a year and a half.
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he was uspended for the first 5 games last year he had no chance to show anyone what he could do, including the coaching staff
this year he showed in preseason then was buried by knapp and da and made # 3
he didnt get to practice until he ran scout for the carolina game and ever since he has wowed the raiders staff.
first forcing his way into gimmick plays and packages. then eventually beating lienart in his first practice with the 1’s.
He did this with only half of the reps in the practice.
truly he was ignored until the carolina week, and now he will battle to start.
lol
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If you think for one second coaches are going to send a player to the locker room who they think can help them win games, you don’t know coaches. Sure, for the first five weeks of his career Pryor could not be evaluated. But that was a year and a half ago and no one has been jumping up and down about him, and those are the guys that are with him all day every day.
He was playing against scrubs in the preseason. Not against bona fide NFL ones. He was a #3 because he was #3 Not because of some conspiracy. He ran the scout team all year which gives him a chance to practice against bona fide NFL ones. You never heard guys coming out of practice saying how Pryor absolutely dominated against the ones. How you can claim a guy was ignored when he ran the scout team is kind of laughable. Maybe he wasn’t ignored, maybe he just wasn’t very good…
February 7th, 2013 at 5:32 pm
IHOP FIELD STADIUM, HOUSE OF THE OAKLAND RAIDERS
IHOP is awesome.
Thanks IHOP for supporting Raider football.
Palmer had his chance. Now it’s Pryors’ turn. I say this because of all the hate bestowed upon him has actually made me want to see him dominate.
In reality, think about it. Pryor gives us a chance to win. Palmer = 4-11.. Why not go with Pryor. It would be so awesome to see him win and sweep out the hate.
February 7th, 2013 at 5:33 pm
Are you guys serious about Palmer, please stop it career loser period
February 7th, 2013 at 5:34 pm
Go IHOP.
Go Raiders.
New stadium = super bowl.
February 7th, 2013 at 5:34 pm
dr_robert Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 5:30 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 5:26 pm
The raiders have nothing to do with it , they didnt even qualify for the playoffs thanks to palmer
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u have admitted u only follow the raiders if they have a black qb.
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another flat out lie
i never said this
February 7th, 2013 at 5:34 pm
Elraidmanhattan Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 5:31 pm
Palmer signed by a top ten team, the prosecution rests my job is done, it is obvious that you are living in 1990 or a white supremist
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what are u talking about? a white supremacist cuz i know plamer’s a quality nfl qb?
ur a fake. ur definitely not a white jew, trying to make friends with a guy who hates whites and jews. what a liar.
and i said he would be picked up by any one of ten teams, not a top ten team. read the post.
February 7th, 2013 at 5:34 pm
Reg/DA love IHOP.
February 7th, 2013 at 5:36 pm
Palmer had his chance. His effort was commendable. Now its Pryors’ turn. More durable and athletic QB. Reggie and DA know this and expect them to compete. May the best QB win the starting job.
Go IHOP
February 7th, 2013 at 5:37 pm
The most delusional people are on this blog, seriously they think that carson is the resurrection of johny unitas 4 more years palmer will be out of the league by 2014
February 7th, 2013 at 5:38 pm
IHOP is a franchise ahead of their time.
What a great pick me up. IHOP buys out Raiders and plans to build a new state of the art stadium complex. Made my fcking day.
February 7th, 2013 at 5:38 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 5:31 pm
there are 4 billion 4 hundred million black/ Afrikan people on earth
classifying by skin color (race) = white supremacist machination
My genetics the ability to produce black/ Afrikan off spring and pan Afrikan consciousness bond me with the other 4 billion
your opinion is unwanted and holds no weight with us
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LOL! so race is a white supremacist machination, but u still identify with it?
contradiction? LOL.
my opinion is valued by plenty of black people. most in fact. cuz most black people aren’t total bigot retards like u.
i guarantee most black people would rather hang out with me than u.
February 7th, 2013 at 5:40 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 5:34 pm
dr_robert Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 5:30 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 5:26 pm
The raiders have nothing to do with it , they didnt even qualify for the playoffs thanks to palmer
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u have admitted u only follow the raiders if they have a black qb.
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another flat out lie
i never said this
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yes u did. u said u didn’t watch last year and u wouldn’t watch next year if palmer is the guy.
February 7th, 2013 at 5:40 pm
i always liked zebra’s
February 7th, 2013 at 5:41 pm
Palmer isnt mobile. I commend him for his effort, but the crappy oline did him in. Pryor can scramble for his life and turn it into positive yards. All the Pryor hate has made me examine the case between CP3 v Pryor. I was a CP3 supporter but the hate has turned me into a Pryor fan.
Go IHOP
February 7th, 2013 at 5:41 pm
Elraidmanhattan Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 5:37 pm
The most delusional people are on this blog, seriously they think that carson is the resurrection of johny unitas 4 more years palmer will be out of the league by 2014
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whatever liar. ur no white jew. no white jew would try to make friends with a jew-hater like missdick.
February 7th, 2013 at 5:42 pm
IGAG Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 5:41 pm
Palmer isnt mobile. I commend him for his effort, but the crappy oline did him in. Pryor can scramble for his life and turn it into positive yards. All the Pryor hate has made me examine the case between CP3 v Pryor. I was a CP3 supporter but the hate has turned me into a Pryor fan.
Go IHOP
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u mean all the hate against palmer right?
cuz no one here hates pryor.
it is only missdick and a few others who bash palmer and lie about him.
February 7th, 2013 at 5:42 pm
Sounds like someone in here needs to chill out at IHOP and eat some hot cakes. Will make your day much brighter and happier. Trust me, I know. So does Reggie and DA. IHOP is where its at.
February 7th, 2013 at 5:43 pm
Doc I am real think what you like, I will even post my email if you like, damn I just want to talk about my team, and I feel that Palmer was a mistake and Reggie knows it
February 7th, 2013 at 5:45 pm
elraidmanhattan Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 5:33 pm
Are you guys serious about Palmer, please stop it career loser period
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So you feel he has a good receiving corp, running back corp, and Oline? And we might as well say his defense in Cincy was among the league bests.
February 7th, 2013 at 5:46 pm
When you read the comments on this blog you quickly realize why the Raiders cannot develop a QB. The fans have NO IDEA what one is supposed to look like.
February 7th, 2013 at 5:46 pm
Hue Jack thought he could win that year, I guess. Desperate men do desperate things.
February 7th, 2013 at 5:46 pm
I am not here to make friends just state my points
February 7th, 2013 at 5:49 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 5:46 pm
When you read the comments on this blog you quickly realize why the Raiders cannot develop a QB. The fans have NO IDEA what one is supposed to look like.
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You’ve Bootlicked them the last 10 years. That didnt help them either. Lol.
February 7th, 2013 at 5:50 pm
Elraidmanhattan Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 5:46 pm
I am not here to make friends just state my points
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Who’s your pick @ #3 in the upcoming draft?
February 7th, 2013 at 5:50 pm
Seymour he had a great line anchored by whitworth with TO and Chad at receivers a decent defense and he still didn’t win, check the records
February 7th, 2013 at 5:50 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 5:32 pm
But that was a year and a half ago and no one has been jumping up and down about him, and those are the guys that are with him all day every day.
He ran the scout team all year which gives him a chance to practice against bona fide NFL ones.
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pure revisionist history
first off he didnt “run scout team all year” he only started to run scout for the carolina game according to him.
Lol
maybe you missed these as well
“Very good. TP has been good all week for us. He’s been filling in our defensive players, ‘Hey this is good when you do this because this makes it hard on me.’ He’s done a nice job simulating in practice and adding information. He’s so fast and so big, the speed with which he can do it on the practice field has helped us.” – tarver on pryor
“We’ve got the closest guy here,” running back Mike Goodson, a former teammate of Newton, said with a gap-toothed Cheshire Cat grin this week. “Terrelle Pryor. We’ve got the closest guy to him, I think.” goodson comparing pryor to newton
“It’s gone great. The kid hasn’t let up (since training camp) in terms of work ethic and those things,” DeFilippo said. “He’s progressing nicely.
any questions
stop making up bs bush
still waiting for you to show me how many players from 12 win panther team were also on cams team
lmao
February 7th, 2013 at 5:52 pm
Len, like Werner I also like jones and milliner, but thinking. Werner opposite houston is tantalizing
February 7th, 2013 at 5:53 pm
dr_robert Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 5:40 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 5:34 pm
dr_robert Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 5:30 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 5:26 pm
The raiders have nothing to do with it , they didnt even qualify for the playoffs thanks to palmer
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u have admitted u only follow the raiders if they have a black qb.
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another flat out lie
i never said this
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yes u did. u said u didn’t watch last year and u wouldn’t watch next year if palmer is the guy.
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I did not say i didnt watch last year i watched every mind blowing flop by palmer
nor did i say anything about only ‘following the raiders if they have a black qb”
you are an idiot
these are flat out lies
February 7th, 2013 at 5:54 pm
Elraidmanhattan Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 5:52 pm
Len, like Werner I also like jones and milliner, but thinking. Werner opposite houston is tantalizing
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From what I gather all are probably top 10 picks.
I like Star, Moore, and Joeckle.
February 7th, 2013 at 5:54 pm
done for the day
these cats are a strange bunch
February 7th, 2013 at 5:55 pm
I think we need to start a QB who can run around in circles and make the ESPN highlights.
Might not ever win anything, but the highlights will be cool. You know, Like Mike Vick?
Anyone know where we can get one of those? And don’t say Tebow’s available……
February 7th, 2013 at 5:57 pm
Can I have true raider fans to engage with, really are you guys out there
February 7th, 2013 at 5:58 pm
Len good choices but I think we go all D
February 7th, 2013 at 5:58 pm
stablersbeard Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 5:55 pm
I think we need to start a QB who can run around in circles and make the ESPN highlights.
Might not ever win anything, but the highlights will be cool.
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well ill take that over watching palmer stumble and being rag dolled to the ground while fumbling into his own endzone throwing pick 6 or under hand soft toss ints to the d line men in double digit blow out losses.
February 7th, 2013 at 5:58 pm
Houston needs to be moved inside love the guy he is good and all but for a defensive end he doesn’t generate enough QB pressure
February 7th, 2013 at 5:59 pm
outro
February 7th, 2013 at 6:00 pm
IHOP has 37 different kinds of maple syrup. They have great hamburgers too. Very much underrated.
Amy Trask loves IHOP. Great to hear they’re buying the Raiders.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:01 pm
Mistic is signing off cuz he’s going to IHOP too. Everybody needs to jump on board with this IHOP thing.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:02 pm
Mistic don’t you think we draft D all the way, obvious for me, you?
February 7th, 2013 at 6:04 pm
elraidmanhattan Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 6:02 pm
Mistic don’t you think we draft D all the way, obvious for me, you?
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thats what i would do
i like mingo
and i may mix in an o line pick in the mid rounds
February 7th, 2013 at 6:04 pm
cue the music
im out
February 7th, 2013 at 6:05 pm
elraidmanhattan Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 5:50 pm
Seymour he had a great line anchored by whitworth with TO and Chad at receivers a decent defense and he still didn’t win, check the records
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If TO and Chad were so great, why were they out of the league the season Palmer left? And the Bunghole defense was among the league worst for almost the entirte time Palmer was there. And ours is no better.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:06 pm
Mistic did say he would chose not to watch next year if the fair-haired heroine was at the helm.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:09 pm
still waiting for you to show me how many players from 12 win panther team were also on cams team
lmao
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I answered you an hour ago in 1319.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:10 pm
Seymour palmer played like he could care less, this “palmer is an idol” crap needs to stop only way he is here in 2013 is with severe paycut, then gone 2014. Hey you like that comeback against tampa? Over 2 minutes left he blew it, go check the video. Stabler never did it Gannon either,
February 7th, 2013 at 6:10 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 6:06 pm
Mistic did say he would chose not to watch next year if the fair-haired heroine was at the helm.
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He also said he was rooting for the Whiners. I know an awful lot of Raider fans and I don’t know ONE that would root for the Whiners. EVER.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:11 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 5:46 pm
When you read the comments on this blog you quickly realize why the Raiders cannot develop a QB. The fans have NO IDEA what one is supposed to look like.
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i do. u do. al saunders does.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:11 pm
Tomorrow guys
February 7th, 2013 at 6:12 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 5:46 pm
Hue Jack thought he could win that year, I guess. Desperate men do desperate things.
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yep
February 7th, 2013 at 6:13 pm
“Greatest trade in NFL history”
-Hue Jackson
February 7th, 2013 at 6:15 pm
elraidmanhattan Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 6:10 pm
Seymour palmer played like he could care less, this “palmer is an idol” crap needs to stop only way he is here in 2013 is with severe paycut, then gone 2014. Hey you like that comeback against tampa? Over 2 minutes left he blew it, go check the video. Stabler never did it Gannon either,
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Montana never blew it, neither did Young. Kapernick just did. Should they throw him in the trash and go with Scott Tolzien since Alex Smith is demanding his release? This is crazy talk.
I have brought up a point that you don’t want to address: our running game was possibly the worst in the league. Our receivers are among the worst in the league. Our defense is among the worst in the league. Our Oline was among the worst in the league. Yet we were 3-4 at one point, and we had an average passing attack on all accounts. Someone had to play well. Who did? And DON’T say McFadden.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:15 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 5:53 pm
I did not say i didnt watch last year i watched every mind blowing flop by palmer
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yes u did. u said u lost interest after the preseason and admitted u barely watched.
it’s in the archives.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:17 pm
Doc alot of his lies r in the archives he’s absolutely full of schit
February 7th, 2013 at 6:17 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 6:04 pm
elraidmanhattan Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 6:02 pm
Mistic don’t you think we draft D all the way, obvious for me, you?
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thats what i would do
i like mingo
and i may mix in an o line pick in the mid rounds
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he likes mingo cuz of his name.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:17 pm
Hello night shift. What are we argueing about?
Tom Cable> Hue Jackson
February 7th, 2013 at 6:18 pm
Monte Carlo advertising up top.
Very underrated casino, had lots of good fun there.
Also hit my biggest jackpot, about $4,500 on the 25 cent Super Jackpot Party.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:18 pm
Mystic
Lassie called and said you hate dogs
February 7th, 2013 at 6:20 pm
Good for King Felix.
27 millie a season. Wow!!!!!
February 7th, 2013 at 6:20 pm
Ya ElRAID I guess Palmer can’t play defense either considering he let Doug Martin run for 245 yards and 3 or 4 scores as well
February 7th, 2013 at 6:21 pm
Norco bob should be back from vacation soon
I think he took Beech with him. They have both been gone for the same time, other then a random showing of beech or two
You don’t think that,,,,,,, no,, could not be,, could it?
February 7th, 2013 at 6:21 pm
elraidmanhattan Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 6:10 pm
Seymour palmer played like he could care less, this “palmer is an idol” crap needs to stop only way he is here in 2013 is with severe paycut, then gone 2014. Hey you like that comeback against tampa? Over 2 minutes left he blew it, go check the video. Stabler never did it Gannon either,
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Check the video yourself. You’ll see he threw 4 td’s that game. You’ll also see the wr ran the wrong route on the int. he threw. You’ll also notice Doug Martin running for 4 td’s and 255 yd’s.
Stabler and Gannon never had the worst defense in franchise history.
Palmer has never thrown for 7 int’s in a game like Stabler did or 5 int’s in a gmae like Gannon did.
As far as Palmer NEVER being a winner…he led the Bengals to the playoffs two times and has been an all pro two times. You’ll have to excuse him for not beating Pittsburgh in the playoffs seeing as his ankle was in a cast from the 1st quarter on.
He also won the Heisman trophy.
The REAL story is Palmer was the QB of a BAD TEAM.
Don’t let your personal hatred of the guy cloud the facts.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:22 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 6:04 pm
cue the music
im out
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ok, here’s a rap for u:
you call yourself african
and i have to laugh again
cuz everything you say, it doesn’t mean a thing
i call you mufassa cuz you’re the lyin’ king
you’re just a common liar
suckers call you messiah
when they wanna lie they think of you
and ask themselves what would u do?
February 7th, 2013 at 6:22 pm
Lets argue about something we never talk about like nascar or satan
February 7th, 2013 at 6:22 pm
You’ll also notice Doug Martin running for 4 td’s and 255 yd’s.
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Slo-Mania!!!!
February 7th, 2013 at 6:23 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 6:06 pm
Mistic did say he would chose not to watch next year if the fair-haired heroine was at the helm.
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yep. a raider fan. not.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:23 pm
I think Kyle Busch is Satan
February 7th, 2013 at 6:24 pm
Ian85 Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 6:17 pm
Doc alot of his lies r in the archives he’s absolutely full of schit
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yep
February 7th, 2013 at 6:24 pm
hehehe his wife maybe but not kyle
Kurt is demon possessed, though
February 7th, 2013 at 6:25 pm
Less than one hour. ONE HOUR!!!
dr_robert Says:
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http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2013/02/06/raiders-close-mt-davis-_-capacity-53200/comment-page-27/#comment-1246464
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Hello night shift. What are we argueing about?
Tom Cable> Hue Jackson
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dr robert>missdick
February 7th, 2013 at 6:26 pm
1 Less than one hour. ONE HOUR!!!
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February 7th, 2013 at 6:18 pm
Mystic
Lassie called and said you hate dogs
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just white ones.
he’s got a whole diatribe about how white poodles used to live in caves and black poodles were the first poodles.
it’s………..idiotic. of course.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:26 pm
How much do you think the stadium has to pay musician’s to play their music during games?
How much do we pay AC/DC?
They have to drive a hard bargain, being they fought I-tunes for a bunch of years for no real logical reason.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:26 pm
2Less than one hour. ONE HOUR!!!
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February 7th, 2013 at 6:27 pm
Speaking of demon possessed, what sort of demon do you think possesses doc rob?
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3Less than one hour. ONE HOUR!!!
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February 7th, 2013 at 6:22 pm
Lets argue about something we never talk about like nascar or satan
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pretty sure satan is responsible for nascar.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:28 pm
Samantha = two thumbs up
February 7th, 2013 at 6:29 pm
Sadly,
55 was only in on one of those TD runs by Martin, and his whiff was in the backfield. ONE missed tackle in the backfield should not equal a 60 yd TD run. The other 10 guys who ALSO let that happen are still on the roster too.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:29 pm
Whatever it is it has a hard on for the demon in mystic. They may both die of exhaustion as they type battle to the death
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Less than one hour. ONE HOUR!!!
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nicely done.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:31 pm
I believe that was the Missile Mike game as well wasn’t it?
February 7th, 2013 at 6:31 pm
jealous
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4Less than one hour. ONE HOUR!!!
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5Less than one hour. ONE HOUR!!!
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6Less than one hour. ONE HOUR!!!
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February 7th, 2013 at 6:33 pm
Raiders should stay away from the free agent WR market. Release DHB and the WR’s on contract are pretty good as is.
#1 Rod Streater – should take over DHB’s spot – he’s actually faster than DHB in terms of quickness and getting to top speed faster. And he gets open, runs great routes, hand catches, and fights for the ball – DHB does none of those well.
#2 Denarious Moore – he had a down season mainly because of the hammy that never really healed but he’s a talent and a big play waiting to happen – can get open deep on anybody in the league.
#3/Slot Ford – hasn’t played alot since 2010 if he’s 100 percent back he’s in a contract year and will be a force again.
#4 Criner – this kid is a big time target and a red zone specialist. Can also go up and make big catches on the outside.
#5 Hagan – will play on a 1yr deal, knows Carson, and has played solid when given a chance and has timing route skill and great hands.
Maybe get another sleeper in the draft/UFA but we’re good at WR if we get DHB off the field.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:34 pm
Do I want to kill the site? yep.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:34 pm
Saying we are “good” at WR might be a tad of a reach.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:35 pm
Do you care? nope.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:36 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 6:34 pm
Do I want to kill the site? yep.
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Might as well. What a sh1thole this place has become.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:36 pm
Sorry JFB. Didn’t know there was intelligent life out there.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:36 pm
great news we just got 4.5 mil crry over from last year of unused cap. so were only 5.5 mil over cap before any cuts. in reggie we trust.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:39 pm
Banana, apologies to you also. I can become bent.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:39 pm
Raiders get extra $4.5 million in salary cap space
by Levi Damien
February 7th, 2013 at 6:40 pm
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/
February 7th, 2013 at 6:41 pm
I will laugh if Mark decides to pass on spending the 4.5 million.
They can opt out of the added cap space.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:42 pm
Saying we are “good” at WR might be a tad of a reach.
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I like CDEs line of thinking.
I really like Streater. We’ll see if he’s “that guy” in year 2. I was thinking year 3.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:43 pm
Quite the religious debate last night. Anyone care to summarize the close to probably 50,000 words?
My man Raider O just can’t resist those. He is like a fat girl at a wedding when they play “The Wobble”, no chance to stand in the corner and watch.
“Hey big girl, back it up….”
February 7th, 2013 at 6:49 pm
Mike Dantonio is absolutely the worst coach I’ve ever seen.
Worse than Tom Walsh and Greg Knapp, BY FAR!
February 7th, 2013 at 6:49 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 6:34 pm
Saying we are “good” at WR might be a tad of a reach.
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I think we are. Looking at the past production of Moore and Ford (when they were healthy mind you) and not having DHB taking wasted snaps from Streater its actually a strong group. If we can get the running game back (read: serious Oline help and get a productive big back) we’re actually looking pretty good. Can’t see a FA WR (for cheap) that would help us beyond what we have – we have youth, athleticism and production with players that have something to prove to get that next contract. Plus consider DMAC as another hybrid receiver as well..
February 7th, 2013 at 6:50 pm
Quite the religious debate last night. Anyone care to summarize the close to probably 50,000 words?
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Uh, no.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:51 pm
Streater is the real deal – check his 2012 production – very impressive for a guy that didn’t get alot of playing time. The last game he really shined. I think he’s the next Cruz.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:51 pm
It is D’Antoni!!!
Lakers need to trade for Danilo Galinari
February 7th, 2013 at 6:52 pm
Plus consider DMAC as another hybrid receiver as well..
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I will consider that for half the season, what do we do with the other half?
February 7th, 2013 at 6:54 pm
Adam Caplan@caplannfl
Strong arm, but needs a lot of work. RT @MrEaglesAllDay: @caplannfl Thoughts on mayyybe snatching Terrelle Pryor from Oakland?
Retweeted by SBreport
some Eagle fan fishing about trade for pryor. Even Caplan says Pryor has a strong arm. Al never drafted candy azz arms
February 7th, 2013 at 6:54 pm
CDERaider Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 6:51 pm
Streater ..I think he’s the next Cruz.
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I mean the next UFA WR to be a big time player in the league – they have different games, of course.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:56 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 6:41 pm
I will laugh if Mark decides to pass on spending the 4.5 million.
They can opt out of the added cap space.
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OMG. If he did that I would……I don’t know what.
There’s no other teams I could really root for. I’m kinda stuck.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:00 pm
Wow, we got beat upside the head this past offseason.
Dumbwhight Coward and Steve Trash have to be the worst trades in NBA history.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:01 pm
Pryor will be perfectly suited to be #2 this year and should get meaningful snaps especially in the red zone. Get DMAC and him running the zone read on 1st and goal and Criner running to the back pylon and its game on! He’s got the talent, the mechanics have to improve to be a legit passer but he’s a perfectly good (potentially great) #2 and is a good protege for Palmer. If he’s not, fine we draft a QB next season. It’s actually a good spot to be in right now.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:03 pm
It is D’Antoni!!!
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Ricearoni, you say?
February 7th, 2013 at 7:03 pm
In return, the Suns get four draft picks — first rounders in 2013 and 2015 and second rounders in 2013 and 2014.
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LMAO
February 7th, 2013 at 7:06 pm
Palmer actually has decent room to restructure again – he can move another 7-8 mill easy off the books this year and he’s probably got another 1-2 years in him while we get our house in order. He aint going anywhere – he lives in CA and wants to start – he won’t want to move. If you look at it – he was pretty solid this year – and he’s a leader which we have so little of on this team.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:06 pm
I hope we don’t run ANY of that zone read stuff. Only time the QB should run the ball is when he is scrambling, imo.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:07 pm
There was just a scrolling ad for your “New Mexico Ford Dealer”.
Target marketing?
February 7th, 2013 at 7:08 pm
In return, the Suns get four draft picks — first rounders in 2013 and 2015 and second rounders in 2013 and 2014.
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LMAO
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SMDH
Let’s hope Davis Jr is a lot more competent than Buss Jr.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:08 pm
This tarp thing is going to be a topic every home telecast.
The Pub will be none too positive.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:09 pm
Should have traded Bynum for Monte last trade deadline.
We would have prob thrown in Brandon Rush or Biedrins.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:12 pm
So a political colonoscopy is going on before our eyes. Republican after Republican told us the party dodged a bullet with Mitt Romney’s loss: If he had squeaked in, this vital reboot would have been delayed four or eight years.
A number of Republican groups, the Republican National Committee included, are putting the final touches on an autopsy of what went wrong. They are reaching similar, and predictable, conclusions: Hispanics, Asians, African-Americans, single women and young people are turned off by the modern GOP. These problems, they say, while real and pressing, are solvable with policies and targeted outreach, over time.
But a senior Republican operative said the party has two huge, unresolved impediments to the top leaders’ grand plans: “suicide conservatives, who would rather lose elections than win seats with moderates,” and the “many groups on the hard right that depend on direct mail fundraising that requires a high degree of audacity, and borderline shrillness.”
Throw in a third obstacle: loudmouth personalities and candidates who, once created, are hard to control.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/02/behind-the-curtain-gop-fox-political-purge-87293_Page2.html#ixzz2KH1dxrdG
February 7th, 2013 at 7:13 pm
Here’s a nice, sound, pragmatic anti-Palmer take:
-He’ll be 34 in December. Not the age of a QB if your goal is to build for the long term
-He bears his share of responibility for the team being 4-11 while he was QB last yr.
-He is not the kind of QB that can carry a bad team on his back and win.
-He has not won a playoff game (see point # 2..but fine.)
-He is not very mobile and will not make first downs with his feet.
-He does have the “zip” on the ball that he once had. (I don’t know if that’s true..but again…fine)
-He throws too many int’s (actually he’s more middle of the pack in that category…but fine)
-It’s better to go with a young guy at this point since by the time we get good enough to compete he’ll be too old anyway.
Those are all legit concerns I would expect from a fan who simply has the Raiders best interest at heart and just wants to see us win. I would argue some of those points…but they are fair concerns.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:14 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 7:08 pm
This tarp thing is going to be a topic every home telecast.
The Pub will be none too positive.
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Whats the tarp going to look like? All black with a big shield in the middle? Could look pretty cool – but its a horrible idea and yes we might get a primetime game just so they can bag on it nationally…
February 7th, 2013 at 7:15 pm
…oh…and I would:
-He’s making way too much money and we gave up too much for what we got in return.
…again…legit beef.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:16 pm
I truly think there was some issue with Carson’s arm last year.
He started wearing that sleeve thing for awhile, and underthrew a TON of passes the 2nd half of the season.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:16 pm
Interesting debate about the WRs. Streater did play dam good for a rookie and has No 1 type WR makeup. Moore was down, but I think there’s still reason to be optimistic he could breakout in year 3. Ford will be back. Could we bring DHB back for like $2 mil per and make it an open competition? In that scenario, maybe you don’t need a Bowe or Jennings or Wallace. I don’t know. A bit of a gamble to roll with those guys. But maybe we try, if we need to focus our available resources (ie cap room and picks) elsewhere.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:16 pm
No.
We should have never traded Bynum, like I told you.
And you never bring in your enemies to run you camp. Former hated Suns Nash and Ricearoni?????
WTF is Buss Jr. thimking????
Just phuccing add a pt guard to the team that should have been up 3-1 on OKC in the damn playoffs. Give Sessions a training camp and sign a Jamal Crawford.
We’re going to suck for a long time. Oh well. It was a nice ride.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:17 pm
J Hill Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 7:06 pm
I hope we don’t run ANY of that zone read stuff. Only time the QB should run the ball is when he is scrambling, imo.
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Only in the red zone – or selected times. Its a good change of pace and takes advantage of the skill set we have – namely DMAC and Pryor… We’re still a base power running, play action team – I hope anyway.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:18 pm
They will make it look as cool as possible, probably a sweet image of Al, maybe the Super Bowl trophies, maybe a Madden image, etc.
But they are tarps man, at a pro football game. Super Bowl getting unheard of ratings, teams selling out 70K no problem, record Sunday ticket and merchandise sales.
And we are putting up tarps!!!
Oy vey
February 7th, 2013 at 7:19 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 7:13 pm
Here’s a nice, sound, pragmatic anti-Palmer take:
-He’ll be 34 in December. Not the age of a QB if your goal is to build for the long term
-He bears his share of responibility for the team being 4-11 while he was QB last yr.
-He is not the kind of QB that can carry a bad team on his back and win.
-He has not won a playoff game (see point # 2..but fine.)
-He is not very mobile and will not make first downs with his feet.
-He does have the “zip” on the ball that he once had. (I don’t know if that’s true..but again…fine)
-He throws too many int’s (actually he’s more middle of the pack in that category…but fine)
-It’s better to go with a young guy at this point since by the time we get good enough to compete he’ll be too old anyway.
Those are all legit concerns I would expect from a fan who simply has the Raiders best interest at heart and just wants to see us win. I would argue some of those points…but they are fair concerns.
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Agree totally but we’re locked in with that stupid contract we signed and we need a solid/steady vet right now while we build up the other areas, mainly oline and defense. We aren’t going to the SB next season so as of now, we could do alot worse..
February 7th, 2013 at 7:20 pm
DHB needs to learn to cover kickoffs or punts if he wants to stick on the team, IMO.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:21 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 7:18 pm
They will make it look as cool as possible, probably a sweet image of Al, maybe the Super Bowl trophies, maybe a Madden image, etc.
But they are tarps man, at a pro football game. Super Bowl getting unheard of ratings, teams selling out 70K no problem, record Sunday ticket and merchandise sales.
And we are putting up tarps!!!
Oy vey
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It’s disgusting… but hopefully Mark spends some money on it and makes it look cool, at least.. I wonder what a tarp costs – like millions? Did they factor that in their financial ‘analysis’?
February 7th, 2013 at 7:21 pm
Streater is going to be pretty damn good. I think most people see that.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:22 pm
DJ Johnny,
What’s long-term in the NFL these days? To me that’s 2 years plus the one we just threw away. Would Palmer be too old at 36? Manning was that old this year coming off a season out with serious neck surgery. Not that Palmer is Manning, arguably the best QB ever, but there is reason to believ he can be a good QB for at least another 4 years. Kurt Warner was slinging it about that long and had a much worse mid-career dip than CP.
And there’s nothing to say Pryor and/or some other young QB can’t be brought along at the same time and prepared to take over.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:23 pm
I will laugh if it just a bunch of those crappy looking blue tarps tied together.
I am sure the NFL has some type of standards they have to meet up with, and I doubt they can advertise on them.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:24 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 7:20 pm
DHB needs to learn to cover kickoffs or punts if he wants to stick on the team, IMO.
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He’s a great dude and a world class athlete. Should have played baseball. He will get almost zero action on the FA market, you watch. He’ll be playing for league min if at all next year.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:24 pm
4 years??? More like hopefully 4 games.
If Carson comes back, a big IF, if we start 1-3, they will probably bench him.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:25 pm
With the abuse we take with our team, our owner, our coach, the fcking infield dirt, whats a couple of tarps at this point?
Only the *real fans* are left at this point.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:25 pm
Pryor should be good enough to limit his runs to scrambles, and bootlegs. He’ll get hurt running that.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:25 pm
I like DHB other than his DUI arrest.
Hard worker, will fight, but so would Mark Madsen.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:27 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 7:24 pm
4 years??? More like hopefully 4 games.
If Carson comes back, a big IF, if we start 1-3, they will probably bench him.
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If? Nahh, that’s a certainty. And 1-3 is too.. Sadly.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:28 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 7:23 pm
I will laugh if it just a bunch of those crappy looking blue tarps tied together.
I am sure the NFL has some type of standards they have to meet up with, and I doubt they can advertise on them.
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Advertise? Now you’re talking!!! Maybe IHOP is all over that lol!
February 7th, 2013 at 7:29 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 7:13 pm
Here’s a nice, sound, pragmatic anti-Palmer take:
-He’ll be 34 in December. Not the age of a QB if your goal is to build for the long term
-He bears his share of responibility for the team being 4-11 while he was QB last yr.
-He is not the kind of QB that can carry a bad team on his back and win.
-He has not won a playoff game (see point # 2..but fine.)
-He is not very mobile and will not make first downs with his feet.
-He does have the “zip” on the ball that he once had. (I don’t know if that’s true..but again…fine)
-He throws too many int’s (actually he’s more middle of the pack in that category…but fine)
-It’s better to go with a young guy at this point since by the time we get good enough to compete he’ll be too old anyway.
Those are all legit concerns I would expect from a fan who simply has the Raiders best interest at heart and just wants to see us win. I would argue some of those points…but they are fair concerns.
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that’s all fine and dandy. but who’s the qb? pryor? yeah right.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:29 pm
i hate to make this argument again. but. put yourself in a GM’s shoes. you restructured your inherited “elite” QB to push his salary to 17 mil the following season from 7.5 mil to make cap space. he “led” you to a 4-12 season. now you can save 8.5 mil in cap to move on….ummmm is there something im missing? because it seems to be pretty obvious to me he’s getting let go unless we pull the same restructure for some reason
February 7th, 2013 at 7:29 pm
I have an uncle with season tickets up on Mt. Davis. It’s where I sat all through the Gruden/Callahan years.
He is cantankerous enough to not want to leave.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:30 pm
I don’t look at Carson playing with a higher cap number as a better alternative to him not playing with a smaller cap number.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:31 pm
If you start Streater the whole season like we have DHB the last 4 – he will produce. He’s a 1000 yd receiver easy. With Moore on the other side running deep and Ford in the slot, its a given. Maybe not a ton of TD’s but def yards.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:31 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 7:30 pm
I don’t look at Carson playing with a higher cap number as a better alternative to him not playing with a smaller cap number.
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As opposed too… ?
February 7th, 2013 at 7:32 pm
Irjonny Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 7:29 pm
i hate to make this argument again. but. put yourself in a GM’s shoes. you restructured your inherited “elite” QB to push his salary to 17 mil the following season from 7.5 mil to make cap space. he “led” you to a 4-12 season. now you can save 8.5 mil in cap to move on….ummmm is there something im missing? because it seems to be pretty obvious to me he’s getting let go unless we pull the same restructure for some reason
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is there something ur missing?
yes. a qb. cuz pryor sucks.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:33 pm
I think you can cut Carson and draft Geno, with roughly the same cap consequences as Carson staying without a restructure.
That’s the angle I am shooting for.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:33 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 7:29 pm
I have an uncle with season tickets up on Mt. Davis. It’s where I sat all through the Gruden/Callahan years.
He is cantankerous enough to not want to leave.
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I’ve watched at least 20 games from there and I tell you, its a blast. The middle sections are actually pretty sweet – and the people are lively and you can smoke a doob at the top when its called for
February 7th, 2013 at 7:35 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 7:33 pm
I think you can cut Carson and draft Geno, with roughly the same cap consequences as Carson staying without a restructure.
That’s the angle I am shooting for.
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Can’t take Geno at #3 no way. He’s just not that good – and we need so much help everywhere else. Please no.. Our franchise QB is still in college…
February 7th, 2013 at 7:35 pm
dennis allen: we are happy moving forward with palmer as our qb.
dennis allen: carson palmer is our starting qb next year.
reggie: yes, carson palmer is our starter.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:36 pm
Oakland Raiders to make Carson Palmer take pay cut or be cut?
This is even more intriguing considering it comes relatively soon after the Raiders brass noted that back up Terrelle Pryor would have an opportunity to compete for the starting QB position in 2013. Pryor was finally given an opportunity to start in the final game of the 2012 season and he opened a lot of eyes to his potential to play QB in the NFL.
Now that the Raiders know they have an option at quarterback, it is much easier to apply pressure to Palmer in order to get him to take a pay cut. The real question is, will the Raiders actually go through with cutting Palmer if he insists on the $13 million or something close to it.
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2013/2/6/3959902/oakland-raiders-carson-palmer-cut-terrelle-pryor
February 7th, 2013 at 7:36 pm
Section 352, row 8, seat 2
Looking at my 2002 AFC championship game ticket stub now.
$66!!!!
Only in Oakland do you get deflation of ticket prices after 10 years.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:37 pm
Aaron Murray not coming out was a major stomach punch to me.
If we pass on Geno this year, we have to go all-in on Murray next year.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:38 pm
Let’s build a real defense and a solid oline. Then, and only *then* can we look at the franchise QB – the next 2 drafts look much better to get that guy and if we have our D and oline solid, he can be successful year 1.
Geno will fail on this team now for sure..
February 7th, 2013 at 7:38 pm
there are a ton of QBs in the draft and free agency that could take us to better than a 4-12 record. And yes whether you like it or not Palmer was our leader last year and LEAD us to a 4-12 record. in my mind there is no pryor/palmer debate. they both suck. time to start over like so many teams do with success
February 7th, 2013 at 7:38 pm
kell–ur posting silverandblackpride? why not just post urself? they’re equally valid. it’s just fan writing.
and no one EVER said pryor would be given the opportunity to compete for the starting position. never was said.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:40 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 7:37 pm
Aaron Murray not coming out was a major stomach punch to me.
If we pass on Geno this year, we have to go all-in on Murray next year.
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no telling where we draft next season. what if we go 6-10? 7-9? are we getting murray?
that’s why it might make sense to go for geno now. take ur shot at a franchise qb when u have one.
but one thing: he has a windup in his delivery.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:40 pm
Let’s build a real defense and a solid oline.
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Our O-line is already solid, outside of RG.
Who do you think was the worst rated player this year by PFF:
Jared Veldheer, Michael Oher or Khalif Barnes???
February 7th, 2013 at 7:41 pm
Irjonny Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 7:38 pm
there are a ton of QBs in the draft and free agency that could take us to better than a 4-12 record. And yes whether you like it or not Palmer was our leader last year and LEAD us to a 4-12 record. in my mind there is no pryor/palmer debate. they both suck. time to start over like so many teams do with success
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our leader was dennis allen. head coach.
qb’s don’t win games. teams do.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:42 pm
Palmer will restructure if necessary, guaranteed. And he had one of his best seasons, statistically, of his career in 2012. Things could be alot worse QB wise.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:43 pm
Or we can take Clowney with the first pick next year if not him Murray would be fantastic
February 7th, 2013 at 7:43 pm
Dennis Allen is horrible. But, he can hold the Sharpie while get our team rebuilt. It’s all about Reggie at this point and he better deliver.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:45 pm
Jeff George set, at the time, a ton of Raider single season records in 1997.
We also went 4-12 then.
Some QB’s are expert cherry-picking, stat-padding losers.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:47 pm
Ofcourse if we go 4 and 12 again we prob wont get a shot at Clowney or Murray they will prob go 1 and 2 respectively
February 7th, 2013 at 7:47 pm
We can be like Minny and draft a LT in the top 10, watch him get fat and unproductive and release him.
Or we can be the Ravens, who picked up the same former top 10 pick for less than what we paid Mike Briesel, and win a Super Bowl with him filling in for a struggling Oher at LT in the playoffs, after not starting a game all season.
I prefer the Ravens model.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:47 pm
Geno Smith is not worth an overall three.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:48 pm
Let me take you guys on a journey all the way back to a time and place I like to call 2012. Raiders had their most anemic pass rush in years and the worst D in the league for much of the year. The running game, which was supposed to be a strength, was one of the most ineffective in the league. The offensive line regressed badly. Our young WRs were often lost. Ditto that for our rookie HC, GM and DC, as well as our bargain bin OC. We also had our first 4,000 yard passer in a decade.
Yet you guys act like replacing that passer is a no-brainier and the key to future success.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:48 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 7:40 pm
Let’s build a real defense and a solid oline.
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Our O-line is already solid, outside of RG.
Who do you think was the worst rated player this year by PFF:
Jared Veldheer, Michael Oher or Khalif Barnes???
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Regardless, we all know we need a long term solution at RT and the guards are both iffy. Briseil is a bust and Bergstrom is as well. We need a stud RT – resign Veldheer long term and get some beef at guards. Think 2002 oline.. Without a solid proven oline, hard to win in this league without elite QB and Geno aint elite by any means..
February 7th, 2013 at 7:50 pm
Ya George sucked dck but atleast George had Tim Brown to throw to Palmer has nobody
February 7th, 2013 at 7:51 pm
irjonny Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 7:38 pm
there are a ton of QBs in the draft and free agency that could take us to better than a 4-12 record. And yes whether you like it or not Palmer was our leader last year and LEAD us to a 4-12 record. in my mind there is no pryor/palmer debate. they both suck. time to start over like so many teams do with success
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Like who? Matt Flynn? Alex Smith? Please..
February 7th, 2013 at 7:51 pm
Chris in NY Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 7:48 pm
Let me take you guys on a journey all the way back to a time and place I like to call 2012. Raiders had their most anemic pass rush in years and the worst D in the league for much of the year. The running game, which was supposed to be a strength, was one of the most ineffective in the league. The offensive line regressed badly. Our young WRs were often lost. Ditto that for our rookie HC, GM and DC, as well as our bargain bin OC. We also had our first 4,000 yard passer in a decade.
Yet you guys act like replacing that passer is a no-brainier and the key to future success.
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Exactly. Or that Palmer is so old he is going to retire. It’s ridiculous. We should be able to get at least 5 more years out of Palmer. 5 years is an eternity in the league. In fact, we all may be Red Chinese five years from now.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:51 pm
JFB,
How many 1st rounders does that other, SB team, you know, the more talented one, have on its online?
February 7th, 2013 at 7:51 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 7:45 pm
Jeff George set, at the time, a ton of Raider single season records in 1997.
We also went 4-12 then.
Some QB’s are expert cherry-picking, stat-padding losers.
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palmer’s “garbage stats” are a myth. are u repeating them knowing this?
he passed for 124 more yards in the 2nd half than in the 1st half for the season.
that’s 8 yards per game. simply bullsh1t.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:51 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 7:47 pm
Geno Smith is not worth an overall three.
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Thank you.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:52 pm
Built the lines and get back to running the ball with authority if we can run they way we did in 2010 and 2011 Palmer will be fine
February 7th, 2013 at 7:52 pm
Let me take you guys on a journey all the way back to a time and place I like to call 2012. Raiders had their most anemic pass rush in years and the worst D in the league for much of the year. The running game, which was supposed to be a strength, was one of the most ineffective in the league. The offensive line regressed badly. Our young WRs were often lost.
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I will gladly place all that on Carson’s plate.
QB and leader of the teams job is to inspire others.
Everyone got worse under his “leadership”.
Carson and Seymour = fugazzi leaders
February 7th, 2013 at 7:53 pm
CDERaider Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 7:51 pm
irjonny Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 7:38 pm
there are a ton of QBs in the draft and free agency that could take us to better than a 4-12 record. And yes whether you like it or not Palmer was our leader last year and LEAD us to a 4-12 record. in my mind there is no pryor/palmer debate. they both suck. time to start over like so many teams do with success
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Like who? Matt Flynn? Alex Smith? Please..
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Tyler Palko?
February 7th, 2013 at 7:54 pm
build*
February 7th, 2013 at 7:54 pm
he passed for 124 more yards in the 2nd half than in the 1st half for the season.
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In the immortal words of Derrick Coleman:
“Whoopty damn do”
February 7th, 2013 at 7:55 pm
Carson and Seymour = fugazzi leaders
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2012: With Seymour in the lineup 3-4. With Seymour out of the lineup 1-8. With Palmer in lineup: 4-10 With Palmer out of lineup: winless.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:55 pm
I prefer the Ravens model.
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So basically, you want to resign Barnes.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:55 pm
We can win with Palmer. In terms of ability, Palmer is right on par with Eli and Flacco. Of course, those guys have won big in the playoffs. Of course, those guys haven’t spent their entire careers with the Bengals and Raiders.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:56 pm
jeff george got a bad rap.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:56 pm
JFB,
How many 1st rounders does that other, SB team, you know, the more talented one, have on its online?
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That same team you predicted would win in a blowout?
The team that lost the last two years to first round QB’s outwilling them and their great D and O-line?
I don’t know, what 2? 3?
Anthony Davis was getting roasted in the Super Bowl.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:58 pm
Once again I just love the way Darren McFadden somehow evades the talk of why the Raiders blow. It’s the ONLY thing McFadden has evaded his NFL career.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:58 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 7:52 pm
Let me take you guys on a journey all the way back to a time and place I like to call 2012. Raiders had their most anemic pass rush in years and the worst D in the league for much of the year. The running game, which was supposed to be a strength, was one of the most ineffective in the league. The offensive line regressed badly. Our young WRs were often lost.
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I will gladly place all that on Carson’s plate.
QB and leader of the teams job is to inspire others.
Everyone got worse under his “leadership”.
Carson and Seymour = fugazzi leaders
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LOL! u put the poor defense, o-line, and running game on the qb?
well, there is no talking sense here.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:58 pm
I love the Geno hype – he might be pretty good on a team with a solid base – like the Chiefs. But if they don’t take him and he lands on #3, its *go* time – Reggie can get bounty and trade down with at least 3 or 4 teams that will be willing to deal – because the Eagles and ‘Chipper’ will def take him at #4 and those other teams know it… It’s all a matter of whether Andy Reid bites or not. Fingers crossed.. This might be *the* draft we desperately need.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:58 pm
So basically, you want to resign Barnes.
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I want to pick up Jake Long (top pick washout also rated lowed than Veldheer by PFF) for around the 2 years/7 millie Baltimore got McKinnie for, and not draft Joeckel.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:00 pm
Chiefs have a “solid base”??
With what?
They got a good punt returner and MLB.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:01 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 7:58 pm
Once again I just love the way Darren McFadden somehow evades the talk of why the Raiders blow. It’s the ONLY thing McFadden has evaded his NFL career.
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He’s not a zone runner – but what he is is a game changer and a beast going North/South and a monster as a pass catcher. He takes alot of pressure off of the rest of the team when they play him right. I still believe he is the key to our future. Call me crazy but he is.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:01 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 8:00 pm
Chiefs have a “solid base”??
With what?
They got a good punt returner and MLB.
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6 pro bowlers
February 7th, 2013 at 8:02 pm
We’re not getting Jake Long for 3.5 million.
So if it comes down to Joeckel being there at 3 and us resigning Barnes, what would you do?
February 7th, 2013 at 8:03 pm
CDERaider Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 7:27 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 7:24 pm
4 years??? More like hopefully 4 games.
If Carson comes back, a big IF, if we start 1-3, they will probably bench him.
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If? Nahh, that’s a certainty. And 1-3 is too.. Sadly.
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We probably will start 1-3 and people will blame Palmer even if we give up 30 points a game.
Unbelievable we are even focusing on our QB.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:05 pm
The good news, is the draft is heavy on the side we desperately need – DEFENSE! If Reggie can play it right, and Tarver is the only decent coach we have (I think he’s really good, btw) we can have a top 15 D next year and the offense can produce 20+ points a game with some help at oline with the skill players we already have..
February 7th, 2013 at 8:05 pm
Raiders GM Reggie McKenzie says QB Terrelle Pryor will get a shot at the starting job in 2013.
The Raiders were hesitant to even let Pryor push Matt Leinart for No. 2 duties in 2012, so it’s a bit of a surprise. That, coupled with Carson Palmer’s massive cap number mean any camp competition is likely to be a token one, but it’s encouraging the Raiders appear to be adopting a more open-minded approach on offense after former OC Greg Knapp’s rigid system went nowhere fast. After a promising Week 17 spot start, Pryor’s Dynasty stock is on the rise. Jan 22 – 8:46 PM
Source: Alex Marvez on Twitter
February 7th, 2013 at 8:05 pm
In the last two years, we have given up 52 sacks to the 49ers 90, with 300 less pass attempts than them.
I know, I know, Carson’s unworldly ability to give up on a play…..er I mean get rid of the ball quickly.
Top 5 pass protection unit, statistically speaking in both 2011 and 2012.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:06 pm
So if it comes down to Joeckel being there at 3 and us resigning Barnes, what would you do?
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Re-sign Barnes and draft a QB
February 7th, 2013 at 8:06 pm
J Hill Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 8:02 pm
We’re not getting Jake Long for 3.5 million.
So if it comes down to Joeckel being there at 3 and us resigning Barnes, what would you do?
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Trade down. Veldheer is our LT and good one – actually very good. We need RT and can get that in the 2nd round if Reggie can trade down …
February 7th, 2013 at 8:06 pm
CDERaider Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 8:05 pm
The good news, is the draft is heavy on the side we desperately need – DEFENSE! If Reggie can play it right, and Tarver is the only decent coach we have (I think he’s really good, btw) we can have a top 15 D next year and the offense can produce 20+ points a game with some help at oline with the skill players we already have..
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No, lets instead use it on offense that was in the top 10 in the league before Knapp got here because that is our problem!
The Ghost of Greg Knapp continues to haunt us.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:07 pm
CDERaider Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 8:01 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 8:00 pm
Chiefs have a “solid base”??
With what?
They got a good punt returner and MLB.
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6 pro bowlers
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The Chiefs are a team with a lot of young talent and no Q. We are a team with no talent on either side but we have a Q. And you guys want to get rid of our Q. It boggles the mind. It really does.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:07 pm
Damn the KC punter made the Pro Bowl???
Stick a fork in Shane.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:08 pm
Check this out. We might be able to play the QB draft game twice. Trade down for Geno to the Bills, then trade down again for Barkley to the Browns… We need that sort of draft!
February 7th, 2013 at 8:09 pm
Anyone keeping up with the story about that guy on the RUN??? its in the news.. anyone read his writings? or his last writings
February 7th, 2013 at 8:11 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 8:06 pm
So if it comes down to Joeckel being there at 3 and us resigning Barnes, what would you do?
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Re-sign Barnes and draft a QB
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Not Geno, he’s a bust I promise you. He’s another Tim Couch – seriously..
February 7th, 2013 at 8:12 pm
If Geno is on the board when we pick, you people better wrap your head around the fact we will be on the clock for about 30 seconds before picking him.
Just preparing you in advance.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:13 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 8:09 pm
Anyone keeping up with the story about that guy on the RUN??? its in the news.. anyone read his writings? or his last writings
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yep
February 7th, 2013 at 8:13 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 8:05 pm
Raiders GM Reggie McKenzie says QB Terrelle Pryor will get a shot at the starting job in 2013.
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That’s fluff. Carson is our starter, Pryor the #2.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:13 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 8:09 pm
Anyone keeping up with the story about that guy on the RUN??? its in the news.. anyone read his writings? or his last writings
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Crazed, idiotic gun toting lunatic. And then, No one has heard from Jamista Clown for a few days. Hmmmmmm…….
February 7th, 2013 at 8:15 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 8:12 pm
If Geno is on the board when we pick, you people better wrap your head around the fact we will be on the clock for about 30 seconds before picking him.
Just preparing you in advance.
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Potential trades will be in place before that happens.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:15 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 8:12 pm
If Geno is on the board when we pick, you people better wrap your head around the fact we will be on the clock for about 30 seconds before picking him.
Just preparing you in advance.
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If we take Geno at #3 Reggie is officially an idiot
February 7th, 2013 at 8:16 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 8:09 pm
Anyone keeping up with the story about that guy on the RUN??? its in the news.. anyone read his writings? or his last writings
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That dudes manifesto takes it to the lapd. unless it’s all made up or the news just completely ignores it….gotta imagine thats gonna blow up
February 7th, 2013 at 8:17 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 8:05 pm
Raiders GM Reggie McKenzie says QB Terrelle Pryor will get a shot at the starting job in 2013.
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it’s a lie is what it is. he never said he would compete for the starting job. never happened.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:17 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 8:12 pm
If Geno is on the board when we pick, you people better wrap your head around the fact we will be on the clock for about 30 seconds before picking him.
Just preparing you in advance.
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Roger Goddell arrives at the podium. “And with the 3rd selection of the 2013 NFL Draft the Oakland Raiders select, Geno Smith, Quarterback, University of West Virginia.” Boos cascade throughout Radio City Music Hall. Goddell continues, “Ladies and Gentlemen. There is a trade. The Raiders send Geno Smith to…..”
February 7th, 2013 at 8:18 pm
Ya but is he really crazed ..lunatic ? or is he a guy who who had idealic dreams to make a diffence with the po only to be ridculed when being a “whistlblower” and not being on of the “Boys”?? and then be canned for it??
say what you want but his writings make sense because its very specific with dates, times and various situations.
Corruption.. basically saying now he had no other chance because everything he had was taken from him.
its like a dayum movie
February 7th, 2013 at 8:18 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 8:13 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 8:09 pm
Anyone keeping up with the story about that guy on the RUN??? its in the news.. anyone read his writings? or his last writings
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Crazed, idiotic gun toting lunatic. And then, No one has heard from Jamista Clown for a few days. Hmmmmmm…….
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u mean the black guy going on a rampage? bet missdick doesn’t talk about him.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:18 pm
If Reggie can’t move down, take a lineman either side of the ball – period. Anything else is a gross mistake.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:19 pm
That dudes manifesto takes it to the lapd. unless it’s all made up or the news just completely ignores it….gotta imagine thats gonna blow up
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no way that can be all made up. to many stories not just from him over hte years..and its still that way.
He sent a DVD to anderson cooper.. basically so the media wouldnt make him the “bad guy” even tho he now is one.. but his writings have truth to them. MOst journalist wont even read his writings and just label him a nut and give their baseless uninformed opinion on the guy
February 7th, 2013 at 8:20 pm
Dude wrote a manifesto about the LAPD? Now that must be some good reading right there.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:20 pm
Any news on when DHB, McClain, Brisiel, Kelly, or Palmer’s contract\bonuses kick in?
Wondering when Big Reg has to make decisions on these guys
February 7th, 2013 at 8:20 pm
there is corruption in the lapd. and it sounds like he might have been screwed. but that’s no reason to kill people.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:20 pm
there is corruption in the lapd. and it sounds like he might have been screwed. but that’s no reason to kill people. dude went and killed innocent people to get back at his lawyer.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:21 pm
Potential trades will be in place before that happens.
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Nobody is trading up for an O-lineman.
Last in-draft trade up scenario in the first round where an O-lineman was taken?
Last one I can come up with was Jeff Otah for Carolina, who played 30 games and quit.
Before that??? You can go years.
Teams trade up for skill position players.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:22 pm
ITS NEVER A REASON.. he even talked about that .. but he is saying that he has nothing left.
its crazy.. two wrongs dont make a right and never will.
but he basically just exposed all of them.. like i said its like a movie
February 7th, 2013 at 8:22 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 7:45 pm
Jeff George set, at the time, a ton of Raider single season records in 1997.
We also went 4-12 then.
Some QB’s are expert cherry-picking, stat-padding losers.
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Jeff George then went to Minnesota where he took over a 2-4 team that was under performing and took them to the playoffs going 8-2 in his 10 starts.
Why? He had a TEAM. Something you don’t think is neccessary to win games in the NFL. He had Cris Carter and Randy Moss, along with Jake Reed to throw too. That helped a bit.
All it shows is that stat padding “loser” can win games if they have a TEAM.
Now you say it was Palmer’s fault the defense was the worst in franchise history cuz it’s Palmer’s job to “inspire” them?
That’s ridiculous.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:22 pm
walrushooker Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 8:20 pm
Any news on when DHB, McClain, Brisiel, Kelly, or Palmer’s contract\bonuses kick in?
Wondering when Big Reg has to make decisions on these guys
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Won’t happen till March when roster bonuses are due.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:22 pm
Dude’s manifesto:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/interactive/2013/02/07/ex-lapd-officer-christopher-jordan-dorner-manifesto/
Pretty long, bottom of page five thru page six, he really gets into who he’s going after. Pretty crazy reading this as he’s out there doing it.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:23 pm
in football news, the bills non-tendered donald jones. he’s a pretty good wr. on the rise. weird decision.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:23 pm
when stories like this hit the newswire.. it makes raiders, trades, stadium tarps seem very insignificant lol
February 7th, 2013 at 8:24 pm
Doesn’t RG3 look a lot like Eddie Murphy?
February 7th, 2013 at 8:24 pm
Dude was only a cop for 3 years wasn’t he?
Not nearly enough time to get any real dirt on a department.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:25 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 8:21 pm
Potential trades will be in place before that happens.
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Nobody is trading up for an O-lineman.
Last in-draft trade up scenario in the first round where an O-lineman was taken?
Last one I can come up with was Jeff Otah for Carolina, who played 30 games and quit.
Before that??? You can go years.
Teams trade up for skill position players.
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Most of the time yes, but the Rams have a ton of picks this year and need a franchise Tackle – if Jeokle is on the board, we might get a swap and a 2nd and 3rd for him. They have 2 2nds and 2 3rds.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:25 pm
We need a right guard in the worst way Briesel isnt the answer thats something we should look to in free agency or later in the draft
February 7th, 2013 at 8:25 pm
Actually the Rams have 2 1sts, 2 2nds, and 2 3rds and they need an elite offensive tackle.. hmmm
February 7th, 2013 at 8:26 pm
That’s ridiculous.
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It is. Completely.
But I am rolling with it.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:27 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 8:23 pm
when stories like this hit the newswire.. it makes raiders, trades, stadium tarps seem very insignificant lol
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haha… I always have the opposite thought. Shows why football is important. Crazy ass life, and in sports you get to see the embodiment of everything thats good with humans. Effort, hard word, perseverance, success, so on, so forth…
February 7th, 2013 at 8:28 pm
Rams just took a LT #2 overall and he blew massively.
Why would they trade up again to take a LT a few years later?
February 7th, 2013 at 8:28 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 8:22 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 7:45 pm
Jeff George set, at the time, a ton of Raider single season records in 1997.
We also went 4-12 then.
Some QB’s are expert cherry-picking, stat-padding losers.
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Jeff George then went to Minnesota where he took over a 2-4 team that was under performing and took them to the playoffs going 8-2 in his 10 starts.
Why? He had a TEAM. Something you don’t think is neccessary to win games in the NFL. He had Cris Carter and Randy Moss, along with Jake Reed to throw too. That helped a bit.
All it shows is that stat padding “loser” can win games if they have a TEAM.
Now you say it was Palmer’s fault the defense was the worst in franchise history cuz it’s Palmer’s job to “inspire” them?
That’s ridiculous.
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Dan Marino and Dan Fouts were also stat-padding losers…the list can go on and on. Some people just don’t get it.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:28 pm
haha… I always have the opposite thought. Shows why football is important. Crazy ass life, and in sports you get to see the embodiment of everything thats good with humans. Effort, hard word, perseverance, success, so on, so forth…
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Ya i agree, but i meant it in another way.. but I agree.. I only watch for a few minutes then switch over to NFL network.. then go back.. its like in 5 min segments lol.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:30 pm
Palmer is good QB our team and coaching just sucks hopefully the move back to the power scheme will help get Mcfadden and our running game back on track if that happens Palmer should flourish a legit number 1 WR wouldn’t hurt either
February 7th, 2013 at 8:31 pm
Dr_robert Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 8:18 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 8:13 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 8:09 pm
Anyone keeping up with the story about that guy on the RUN??? its in the news.. anyone read his writings? or his last writings
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Crazed, idiotic gun toting lunatic. And then, No one has heard from Jamista Clown for a few days. Hmmmmmm…….
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u mean the black guy going on a rampage? bet missdick doesn’t talk about him.
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The sad thing is Mistic probably has a crazy manifesto in his basement somewhere.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:38 pm
Apparently when he reported the officer for excessive force he was only suspended for his “false” allegations.
Apparently What got him fired was when he jumped over a seat in a van to choke a fellow officer after that officer had said “ngger” and told him he could say ngger whenever he wanted after being asked not to say it. ”
taken from another site
February 7th, 2013 at 8:41 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 8:26 pm
That’s ridiculous.
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It is. Completely.
But I am rolling with it.
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well there u go.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:43 pm
Walrushooker Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 8:27 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 8:23 pm
when stories like this hit the newswire.. it makes raiders, trades, stadium tarps seem very insignificant lol
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haha… I always have the opposite thought. Shows why football is important. Crazy ass life, and in sports you get to see the embodiment of everything thats good with humans. Effort, hard word, perseverance, success, so on, so forth…
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concussions and permanent damage.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:44 pm
The moment he harmed ppl.. his voice or reasoning became invalid.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:45 pm
Rudegruden Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 8:31 pm
Dr_robert Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 8:18 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 8:13 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 8:09 pm
Anyone keeping up with the story about that guy on the RUN??? its in the news.. anyone read his writings? or his last writings
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Crazed, idiotic gun toting lunatic. And then, No one has heard from Jamista Clown for a few days. Hmmmmmm…….
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u mean the black guy going on a rampage? bet missdick doesn’t talk about him.
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The sad thing is Mistic probably has a crazy manifesto in his basement somewhere.
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pretty sure we know it by heart.
but at least he’s here and not out there.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:57 pm
Dr_robert Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 8:43 pm
Walrushooker Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 8:27 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 8:23 pm
when stories like this hit the newswire.. it makes raiders, trades, stadium tarps seem very insignificant lol
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haha… I always have the opposite thought. Shows why football is important. Crazy ass life, and in sports you get to see the embodiment of everything thats good with humans. Effort, hard word, perseverance, success, so on, so forth…
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concussions and permanent damage.
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uhhh then why do you spend all your time trolling blogs?
February 7th, 2013 at 9:03 pm
I’m so sick of hearing about Flacco’s STctackle that never happened. Why is that a story?
February 7th, 2013 at 9:04 pm
no no no…i am not suggesting that getting a new qb this year will equal immediate wins. but it can’t be any worse than 2012. at least it would be someone to build around. this whole debate about palmer vs. a new qb is ridiculous, have you not been watching the last decade of raider football? are you sick of it yet cause i am. i’ll be happy with ANY new qb. cant be worse than 4-12 and i like palmer. just be realisitic here. and yes i think mcfadden should be cut too. over it…just over it
February 7th, 2013 at 9:07 pm
dr r dude. Jer AND Cork both been saying Pryor gets a chance to compete for the #1. DA verbatim. Dude, go back and read the posts. You are the only one in here who says it aint so. Nobody will know till game one. It’s all good.
Go IHOP.
IHOP saved the Raiders. IHOP makes a mean pancake. Reg/DA agree. You ever eat at a IHOP? Try it. It will change the way you look at breakfast. When I eat at IHOP my day is always good. Birds chirp and dogs smile.
February 7th, 2013 at 9:07 pm
peep these ma dudes… Interesting article on Palmer and how much we could save. It’s time to decide whether he’s their (Big Reg and Allen) vision of the future but these numbers make him way more palatable to cut, especially being able to spread the hit out across two years.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1521031-why-the-oakland-raiders-should-cut-carson-palmer
February 7th, 2013 at 9:13 pm
most over rated offensive player in football = darren mcfadden
if i had my way i would cut/trade/let walk: seymour, kelly, palmer, mcfadden, dhb, mcclain.
We have soooo many decent players to build around, why keep any of these guys, they are all on the same level.
February 7th, 2013 at 9:13 pm
Dr_robert Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 8:20 pm
there is corruption in the lapd. and it sounds like he might have been screwed. but that’s no reason to kill people.
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Speaking of corruption in the LAPD…it is now coming to Oakland real soon thanks to the city “leaders”
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Oakland-hires-police-consultant-Bratton-4215491.php
“Oakland hires pricey ’supercop’ consultant [ex LAPD Police Chief]Bratton”
Money to brutalize but no money for development…
February 7th, 2013 at 9:15 pm
IHOPs are international. Like McDonald’s and Starbucks. Hence the name. The Australians do not like pickles on there cheeseburgers. They are not fond of them. But the McD policy is to put pickles on their cheeseburgers. And hence the battle began. Guess who won.
IHOP = extreme quinine.
February 7th, 2013 at 9:18 pm
Poll:
IHOP or Denny’s.
February 7th, 2013 at 9:20 pm
Yall see we get another 4.5 million in cap relief? What we didn’t use last season we van carry over to this season.
February 7th, 2013 at 9:27 pm
Reggie Greenhorn and Dennis Upstart pulled off the deal of a lifetime. They convinced IHOP to buy out the Raiders and build a new stadium while Amy was trying to dumb down the attendance. Absolute genius.
Goes to show you what hangin at IHOP can do. The dudes are all right in my book. What is good for the Raiders turns out to be IHOP. Whoever would have guessed.
Go IHOP.
February 7th, 2013 at 9:27 pm
IGAG Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 9:18 pm
Poll:
IHOP or Denny’s.
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They’re both excellent eating eating establishments. I enjoy Denny’s lemon pepper tilapia as well as their pot roast and the grand slam breakfasts are pretty good.
I haven’t been to an IHOP since I visited LA a couple yr’s ago. I had a steak there. It wasn’t very good. Sorry, just being honest.
February 7th, 2013 at 9:29 pm
walrushooker Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 9:07 pm
peep these ma dudes… Interesting article on Palmer and how much we could save. It’s time to decide whether he’s their (Big Reg and Allen) vision of the future but these numbers make him way more palatable to cut, especially being able to spread the hit out across two years.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1521031-why-the-oakland-raiders-should-cut-carson-palmer
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This guys conclusion is we should draft a Q, or put in Pryor. But Why would you draft someone, and surround them with nothing? Or put a glorified WR in as a Q? And let’s say this idea fails. Now, we are waaaay WORSE than we would be if we didn’t do that. And what are the chances of failure? Incredibly high.
We have a Q for the forseeable future. We could actually use those picks to build the team instead of throwing in someone with no one around them. Which is where we are now. That makes absolutely no sense.
February 7th, 2013 at 9:30 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 9:27 pm
IGAG Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 9:18 pm
Poll:
IHOP or Denny’s.
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They’re both excellent eating eating establishments. I enjoy Denny’s lemon pepper tilapia as well as their pot roast and the grand slam breakfasts are pretty good.
I haven’t been to an IHOP since I visited LA a couple yr’s ago. I had a steak there. It wasn’t very good. Sorry, just being honest.
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Ouch.
February 7th, 2013 at 9:35 pm
Seems like more and more writers are saying Palmer is unnecessary.
February 7th, 2013 at 9:37 pm
Reggie needs to draft all defense and key a few offense guys thru FA.
Pryor and CP3 can battle it out. Build the fckn oline and establish a fckn power scheme. Get king on board. Add a fckn legit #2 RB and develope who we got and cut wisely during pre season.
Reg/DA need to get the fck with it and get into the playoffs now. Put an end to the crumbling state of affairs with this storied franchise.
Go IHOP.
February 7th, 2013 at 9:43 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 9:35 pm
Seems like more and more writers are saying Palmer is unnecessary.
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That’s too bad but apparently it’s the truth.
Was excited when he got here, had a moment or two, but like all the other failed reclamation and FA projects, time to cut ties and move on.
The Raiders have been a tit bucket long enough.
24 hour pancakes, or, hot cakes if you prefer.
February 7th, 2013 at 9:44 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 9:35 pm
Seems like more and more writers are saying Palmer is unnecessary.
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Sure. Peyton Manning is unnecessary. But in our case, who do you put in?
February 7th, 2013 at 9:49 pm
Evening, P-man, P-head, Doc, JFB, DJJ, Ian, CDER, R-AD, and everyone else!!!
Wow, what a day in the blog!
P-man, thanks for the clue-in regarding MR. I know it was repetitive for you but I appreciate the effort.
Props to P-head for leading us to another story or two over during the week when the 4,000+ post reload was too much.
February 7th, 2013 at 9:51 pm
Is ArmChair GM still around? perhaps one of you guys know the answer to this question. Is the $200M that ACGM keeps mentioning on the part of the NFL a loan or an outright grant (seed money)?
February 7th, 2013