Report: Raiders talking with Holmgren about job
By Steve Corkran
Tuesday, February 26th, 2013 at 2:49 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Long-time Packers and Seahawks coach Mike Holmgren is the latest candidate to surface in the Raiders search for an established football person to assume a leadership role.
ESPN cited two unnamed sources as saying the two sides have spoken about the prospect of Holmgren joining the Raiders in some capacity.
Zak Gilbert, the Raiders director of media relations, issued the following statement: “As a general policy, the Raiders don’t comment on personnel matters, so the team isn’t able to confirm or deny the report. If the organization has more to say in the future, I will let you know.”
Holmgren most recently was with the Cleveland Browns as their team president until he stepped down late last season. He and current Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie worked together when they were with the Packers.
In recent months, the Raiders reportedly interviewed Ray Anderson, the league’s senior vice president of football operations.
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February 26th, 2013 at 2:51 pm
Once the draft and free agency signings are done with, Regina’s next task will be finding a way to save face when he fires Tits.
Sparano gets the interim gig.
February 26th, 2013 at 2:52 pm
Holmgren’s only “failure” was at Cleveland as team president.
February 26th, 2013 at 2:53 pm
What does the team president do?
February 26th, 2013 at 2:54 pm
cork spread those blogs out a little and I will call you again
February 26th, 2013 at 2:54 pm
Maybe Bowl Cut should be talking with Holmgren about Reggie’s J-O-B!
February 26th, 2013 at 2:56 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 2:52 pm
Holmgren’s only “failure” was at Cleveland as team president.
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I’d imagine he’d have a similar position here. Mark’s looking for an overseer for Reggie.
February 26th, 2013 at 2:57 pm
Yo Bros – this hella dope rap was on the last thread but I couldn’t let it go to waste
You’re welcome in advance
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Genital, the Beeeech Diggity can throw down a funky fresh rap that would make your dorm fridge short circuit
I got more lyrics than Busta’s got drawers (as in long undies)
Here’s one about the upcoming draft, hope it don’t make your weiner cry
Yo, hip hop n hollerin, ’cause the Raiders be callin’
Let’s draft a fast homie then gets to mad ballin’
Carson gots to drop that bomb, cause we goin long
Them hizzies from Ebony love the Beeeech Diggity Dong
WHUT WHUT N YOUR BUTT
February 26th, 2013 at 3:02 pm
how dare they take manti serious, dont they know that we drafted the fastest strongest smartest signal caller captain of the football squad, from the best college football team from the best college conference, just a few years ago? why would we need a slow weak backer this year?
February 26th, 2013 at 3:04 pm
What?
February 26th, 2013 at 3:05 pm
dont take it too serious Pep. they’re going to explore every option to see what they need/lay down some smoke screens
February 26th, 2013 at 3:08 pm
why would we need a slow weak backer this year?
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“Manti, why was your 40 time so slow?”
Teo – “My fake girlfriend was riding piggyback”
February 26th, 2013 at 3:12 pm
get shrek outta here mark!!!!
February 26th, 2013 at 3:16 pm
I just dont know anymore, we go from drafting cant fail running backs in Dmac, a cant miss O-lineman in Gallery, a cant miss L.B. in Romac, and we still cant seem to develop schyt.
February 26th, 2013 at 3:19 pm
30.rediaR Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 2:05 pm
Inonewordraider Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 1:45 pm
stars the best dt prospect since suh, know one can handle him one on one free’s up everyone else to make a play, and he plays nasty/dominates good competition. moore it turns out is slow. who else do you want geno? a short guard Warmack? Joeckel when we already have a LT?
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I’ve never been high on Moore and have always seen Geno as somewhat of a worst case scenario for this draft. A dominant guard with great leverage Warmack? Yes please. Joeckel: I wouldn’t jump up and down for a RT but I wouldn’t be disappointed. I’d also be good with diving into the pool of pass rushers. Jordan could be a stud for instance. I don’t hate Star, I just don’t see him as anything more than just another guy at the top of a crapshoot top-weak draft.
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In a crap shoot draft, than guys like Jordan, Star and even Ansah should be looked at. Those are guys with solid upside.
Raiders need to have their own doctors look at Star’s condition.
I find it weird that Star’s heart condition comes up during Combine, but was NEVER mentioned before.
February 26th, 2013 at 3:23 pm
13.big pep Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 3:16 pm
I just dont know anymore, we go from drafting cant fail running backs in Dmac, a cant miss O-lineman in Gallery, a cant miss L.B. in Romac, and we still cant seem to develop schyt.
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Consttant coaching turnover, bad scouting and having a old senile owner….didn’t help.
February 26th, 2013 at 3:25 pm
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8992464/mike-holmgren-discusses-leadership-position-oakland-raiders-according-sources
replacing trask and or davis day to day roll?
February 26th, 2013 at 3:25 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
Holmgren’s only “failure” was at Cleveland as team president.
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Who doesn’t fail in Cleveland?
February 26th, 2013 at 3:25 pm
what does a brotha have to do?….Damn
So this draft class was considered a strong class for qbs before the season with barkley and bray wilson and jones. They all fell off and struggled to keep thier billing. Then geno smith contiued doing what he has done his whole carrer at wvu, carry the team and post huge numbers.
Geno’s performance and total body of work for his college career has propelled him to the top of the pack, his combine performance only strengthened his stock.
yet this class is now called ‘weak”.
enter ej manual, a guyy that not many rated very highly but after his senior season, and a solid showing at the combine and senior bowl he too is moving up the list.
I posted here quite a long time ago the ej and geno were the the best of the class and i stand by this take.
I find it very interesting that this class is suddenly viewd “weak”.
jones, the tylers, glenon, nasib barkley seem to be the only qbs being regarded in the determination of the class being strong or weak.
Geno and ej have been out standing but they are not able to elevate the status of the draft class?
When cam newton came out the class wasnt considered strong and the debate was should gabbert go first.
last year was considered strong yet griffin wasnt considered by most to be the number 1 luck was. Griffin severely outplayed luck this year and proved that to be false.
It seems that when ever a non white qb is at the top of the board the class is either deemed ‘weak’, or they are down graded and never seen as the clear cut number 1.
The nfl is an good old boys network and the media is also owned by a similar club.
i look forward to a time when qbs are judged for what they do on the field, and are given the respect they deserve.
February 26th, 2013 at 3:26 pm
so after we cut mcclain dhb and huff, the last first rounder al drafted still on the team is Jano?
February 26th, 2013 at 3:27 pm
What does a team president do?
February 26th, 2013 at 3:27 pm
inonewordraider Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 3:26 pm
so after we cut mcclain dhb and huff, the last first rounder al drafted still on the team is Jano?
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wait forgot about dmac
February 26th, 2013 at 3:29 pm
only cork and his transexual girlfriend take manti serious
February 26th, 2013 at 3:29 pm
February 26th, 2013 at 3:25 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
Holmgren’s only “failure” was at Cleveland as team president.
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Who doesn’t fail in Cleveland?
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who doesn’t fail in, well you know the rest
February 26th, 2013 at 3:30 pm
Would love to have Holmgren with the Raiders that would be awesome hopefully Mark can make this happen
February 26th, 2013 at 3:30 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 3:27 pm
What does a team president do?
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They definitely don’t get weekly allowances from their wives
HOLLA
February 26th, 2013 at 3:33 pm
Feels like i was in a coma, where did all these articles come from!
February 26th, 2013 at 3:33 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 3:25 pm
what does a brotha have to do?….Damn
So this draft class was considered a strong class for qbs before the season with barkley and bray wilson and jones. They all fell off and struggled to keep thier billing. Then geno smith contiued doing what he has done his whole carrer at wvu, carry the team and post huge numbers.
Geno’s performance and total body of work for his college career has propelled him to the top of the pack, his combine performance only strengthened his stock.
yet this class is now called ‘weak”.
enter ej manual, a guyy that not many rated very highly but after his senior season, and a solid showing at the combine and senior bowl he too is moving up the list.
I posted here quite a long time ago the ej and geno were the the best of the class and i stand by this take.
I find it very interesting that this class is suddenly viewd “weak”.
jones, the tylers, glenon, nasib barkley seem to be the only qbs being regarded in the determination of the class being strong or weak.
Geno and ej have been out standing but they are not able to elevate the status of the draft class?
When cam newton came out the class wasnt considered strong and the debate was should gabbert go first.
last year was considered strong yet griffin wasnt considered by most to be the number 1 luck was. Griffin severely outplayed luck this year and proved that to be false.
It seems that when ever a non white qb is at the top of the board the class is either deemed ‘weak’, or they are down graded and never seen as the clear cut number 1.
The nfl is an good old boys network and the media is also owned by a similar club.
i look forward to a time when qbs are judged for what they do on the field, and are given the respect they deserve.
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just like white qb’s there’s lots of black qb’s who failed to develop into good pro qb’s
February 26th, 2013 at 3:34 pm
Long-time Packers and Seahawks coach Mike Holmgren is the latest candidate to surface in the Raiders search for an established football person to assume a leadership role.
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IF this is true. I’m buying a sh*tload of IHOP stock. Plus, I’d buy a maple tree grove in Vermont..
Just imagine the amount of hotcakes Holmgen, and Chubby Checker could crush during a breakfast meeting..
Did someone jack Cork’s handle? Two posts in one Day?!..
Draft Big MEAN Linemen!….
February 26th, 2013 at 3:34 pm
I find it weird that Star’s heart condition comes up during Combine, but was NEVER mentioned before.
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simple. wanted to hold it back as long as possible so the zero’s wouldn’t fall off his guaranteed money. cats outa the bag now
February 26th, 2013 at 3:35 pm
once upon a time there was hope of a dynamic offensive trio featuring russell mcfadden and dhb…
February 26th, 2013 at 3:36 pm
FIRE REGGIE NOW.
February 26th, 2013 at 3:36 pm
weren’t there like 4-5 qbs taken early in the draft Cam’s yr?
Cam, Gabbert, Locker, Ponder, Dalton, Kaepernik
anyone else? i can’t remember..
February 26th, 2013 at 3:39 pm
Brahs, any of you ever done the Funky Munkey on a chick’s cooter?
You stick your right hand in tub of glue, then into a pile of mashed up bananas, then finger bang both holes while sipping a milkshake
Playing a little Spin Doctors on the surround sound always takes it up another level
SUPA FLY FRESH
February 26th, 2013 at 3:43 pm
If Reggie can get two instant starters out of this draft, it will be a huge success.
February 26th, 2013 at 3:43 pm
Holmgren with his contract negotiating strengths and McKenzie’s vision for talent will bring the Raiders to win the AFC west division and beyond.
Palmer, DHB, Kelly, renegotiate or get cut.
February 26th, 2013 at 3:44 pm
33.The Beeech Diggity Dawg Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 3:39 pm
Brahs, any of you ever done the Funky Munkey on a chick’s cooter?
You stick your right hand in tub of glue, then into a pile of mashed up bananas, then finger bang both holes while sipping a milkshake
Playing a little Spin Doctors on the surround sound always takes it up another level
SUPA FLY FRESH
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Does the Milkshake have to be a specific flavor to pull this off?
February 26th, 2013 at 3:45 pm
35. We can only hope Tommy Kelly is unwilling to negotiate
February 26th, 2013 at 3:46 pm
Hopefully we go D line or just take warmack in the draft
February 26th, 2013 at 3:47 pm
I still have a feeling that after all these moves being made, picks through the draft and possibly signing some FAs we still have a 6-10 year. The excuse will be still “rebuilding”.
February 26th, 2013 at 3:48 pm
not excited about holmgren, seems to be a better hc than office guy
February 26th, 2013 at 3:48 pm
With the weak showing by minter and teo, McClain just became great trade value for the Raiders.
We won’t get a first or second, but I could see us using him to move a later draft pick to move into the 2nd to 4th round.
February 26th, 2013 at 3:49 pm
Relentless Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 3:47 pm
I still have a feeling that after all these moves being made, picks through the draft and possibly signing some FAs we still have a 6-10 year. The excuse will be still “rebuilding”.
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Ur probably right
February 26th, 2013 at 3:50 pm
Raiders will get two firsts from Buffalo to draft Geno.
February 26th, 2013 at 3:52 pm
Mike Holmgren sitting in Raider offices???
Wow, I guess Al really is dead.
Raiders gradually re-entering the NFL?
February 26th, 2013 at 3:53 pm
Judge, I so pray you are correct.
February 26th, 2013 at 3:53 pm
44.KoolKell Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 3:52 pm
Mike Holmgren sitting in Raider offices???
Wow, I guess Al really is dead.
Raiders gradually re-entering the NFL?
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So far, that hasn’t been a good thing.
February 26th, 2013 at 3:54 pm
Ian I hope I’m wrong. But this organization has been rebuilding since 03′. I think it’s time for a new excuse.
February 26th, 2013 at 3:55 pm
I just found out from the Slideshow that Geno Smith was black.
February 26th, 2013 at 3:55 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 3:50 pm
Raiders will get two firsts from Buffalo to draft Geno.
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that’d be sweet
February 26th, 2013 at 3:56 pm
I thought he was Italian
February 26th, 2013 at 3:58 pm
Did y’all know that the warriors were the only team in the nba to beat the Heat, Spurs, Thunder, and Clippers this year. pretty good resume. just saying hahaha
February 26th, 2013 at 3:58 pm
don’t think geno get’s past jacksonville
February 26th, 2013 at 4:01 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 3:44 pm
33.The Beeech Diggity Dawg Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 3:39 pm
Brahs, any of you ever done the Funky Munkey on a chick’s cooter?
You stick your right hand in tub of glue, then into a pile of mashed up bananas, then finger bang both holes while sipping a milkshake
Playing a little Spin Doctors on the surround sound always takes it up another level
SUPA FLY FRESH
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Does the Milkshake have to be a specific flavor to pull this off?
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They come in different flavors?
February 26th, 2013 at 4:02 pm
Relentless Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 3:54 pm
Ian I hope I’m wrong. But this organization has been rebuilding since 03′. I think it’s time for a new excuse.
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I hope ur wrong also but its really hard to be optimistic as far as rebuilding since 03 i agree its absolutely pathetic
February 26th, 2013 at 4:03 pm
52.inonewordraider Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 3:58 pm
don’t think geno get’s past jacksonville
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i personally think jacksonville is going to do what we will most likely try to do IF we don’t retai palmer, and that is bring in a solid free agent or vet (matt moore comes to mind) or they will try and trade for someone like flynn to compete with gabbert n if they fail, or moreso if gabbert fails, they will look for another qb next yr,where the qb class is supposed to be much stronger. you could very well be right though. I just have a hard time seeing a team invest 2 high first round picks on a qb in such a short period. 3 years is usually when u can tell if a kid has it or not. just my opinion. I think they go pass rusher with their first pick and WR with their second. they missed pretty bad on blackmon uness he improves drastically from yr 1 to yr 2.he looked slow out there. his slow 40 time was no lie
February 26th, 2013 at 4:07 pm
I just have a hard time seeing a team invest 2 high first round picks on a qb in such a short period. 3 years is usually when u can tell if a kid has it or not.
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Cough, Cough…Carolina.
February 26th, 2013 at 4:10 pm
Can’t we just make Holmgren our coach instead and have DA kick rocks
February 26th, 2013 at 4:12 pm
56.DutchRaider77 Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 4:07 pm
I just have a hard time seeing a team invest 2 high first round picks on a qb in such a short period. 3 years is usually when u can tell if a kid has it or not.
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Cough, Cough…Carolina.
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i guess that kinda counts, although clausen was a mid second rounder. he was carolina’s first pick…god he was horrible tho.. Souther CA qbs right there. Barkley’s next. which team is gonna be the sucker
February 26th, 2013 at 4:14 pm
57.ian85 Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 4:10 pm
Can’t we just make Holmgren our coach instead and have DA kick rocks
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I’d prefer to stone him in the middle of the colesium.
February 26th, 2013 at 4:14 pm
inonewordraider Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 3:58 pm
don’t think geno get’s past jacksonville
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they dedicated good money and a top ten pick to Gabbert already. fat chance they do that again with Geno. with that said, if teams think he’s goin #3 to us, then someone else could land that spot. i’d be pissed if we miss out on a trade back and Geno.
February 26th, 2013 at 4:14 pm
Can’t be mad at adding an experienced guy like Holmgren to the front office.
February 26th, 2013 at 4:15 pm
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 3:36 pm
FIRE REGGIE NOW.
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Try learning something about football before you post.
February 26th, 2013 at 4:15 pm
yes what NGR said above. sorry lol
February 26th, 2013 at 4:15 pm
whuddup duck!
February 26th, 2013 at 4:16 pm
@NGRaiderfan
Cecil Shorts looked pretty good last year for the Jags.
Kinda funny if Jacksoville picked up Moore, another Miami FA QB…(see Henne)
February 26th, 2013 at 4:16 pm
Ian85 Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 4:10 pm
Can’t we just make Holmgren our coach instead and have DA kick rocks
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Would you also have fired Belichick after his first season?
February 26th, 2013 at 4:16 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 4:14 pm
57.ian85 Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 4:10 pm
Can’t we just make Holmgren our coach instead and have DA kick rocks
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I’d prefer to stone him in the middle of the colesium.
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Im down
February 26th, 2013 at 4:18 pm
Xraided Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 4:15 pm
whuddup duck!
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Recently knighted, but not much else of note.
February 26th, 2013 at 4:19 pm
haha! oh yea? how’d you manage that one?
February 26th, 2013 at 4:19 pm
Sir RaiderDuck, OMS Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 4:16 pm
Ian85 Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 4:10 pm
Can’t we just make Holmgren our coach instead and have DA kick rocks
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Would you also have fired Belichick after his first season?
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Hahaha really come on man Denise is no hoodie lets be real denise couldn’t even be the waterboy on the hoodies staff
February 26th, 2013 at 4:19 pm
65.DutchRaider77 Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 4:16 pm
@NGRaiderfan
Cecil Shorts looked pretty good last year for the Jags.
Kinda funny if Jacksoville picked up Moore, another Miami FA QB…(see Henne)
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yea cecil shorts was pretty good, probably the lone bright spot on their offense. Blackmon had that one game where he had like 275 yds receiving, maybe if they called more plays like tose, i didn’t watch the game. jax has a lot of need, there roster i think is worse than ours.
February 26th, 2013 at 4:21 pm
Kinda funny if Jacksoville picked up Moore, another Miami FA QB…(see Henne)
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yea it would be funny. they are desperate tho. I personally don’t think gabbert has got it from what i’ve seen, he just looks scared out there. won’t step into pressure and deliver the ball. i could be wrong though. they are probably better off going with tebow, at least he will sell tickets being a hometown hero n all.
February 26th, 2013 at 4:23 pm
Ian85 Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 4:19 pm
lets be real denise couldn’t even be the waterboy on the hoodies staff
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And your evidence for this is…?
February 26th, 2013 at 4:24 pm
Xraided Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 4:19 pm
haha! oh yea? how’d you manage that one?
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Financial contributions to the right people. I’m now a highly respected person in some corners of the world.
February 26th, 2013 at 4:25 pm
haha right on! ohh so you were that one that gave the oakland zoo a million dollars? hahah
February 26th, 2013 at 4:26 pm
Congrats Duck! Sir Duck I Mean!!
February 26th, 2013 at 4:28 pm
Brahs, just unleashed a completely lethal turd bomb
Was eating a bucket of KFC in the crib watching some nubian adult films when I suddenly felt a knock on the bunghole door
Ran to the john and barely got out of my XXXL BIKE super jock before a chocolate river ran henceforth
Got on the scale after and dropped nearly 8 lbs
GUESS THATS WHY THEY CALL IT THE BLUES
February 26th, 2013 at 4:29 pm
3rd overall pick and there is nothing to get excited about. This sucks.
Draft one of the left tackles, or milliner, they seem to be the ones with the lowest bust factor…..or just say fk it and gamble on geno.
What a terrible draft class,.
February 26th, 2013 at 4:32 pm
Dakota,
i agree. the raiders can’t buy a break… literally
February 26th, 2013 at 4:32 pm
Clausen was not a 1st rounder so it was easier for Carolina to cut bait. I hope jags pass in geno, Gen’s the only player other teams might want to trade up for
February 26th, 2013 at 4:34 pm
78.Dakota Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 4:29 pm
3rd overall pick and there is nothing to get excited about. This sucks.
Draft one of the left tackles, or milliner, they seem to be the ones with the lowest bust factor…..or just say fk it and gamble on geno.
What a terrible draft class,.
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there will probably be some starts in this class…with our luck tough, we’ll draft the weakest link, n then the 4,5,6 pick will all be all pro by their third yr. thats pretty much the story in recent yrs
February 26th, 2013 at 4:35 pm
Xraided Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 4:25 pm
haha right on! ohh so you were that one that gave the oakland zoo a million dollars? hahah
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If even had that much, I wouldn’t give it to the good Prince. I’d spend it on myself (and my family, of course).
February 26th, 2013 at 4:35 pm
73.Sir RaiderDuck, OMS Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 4:23 pm
Ian85 Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 4:19 pm
lets be real denise couldn’t even be the waterboy on the hoodies staff
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And your evidence for this is…?
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Dennis Allen’s Resume
February 26th, 2013 at 4:35 pm
hopefully holmgren dismisses reggie quitely to team caterer…
February 26th, 2013 at 4:35 pm
quack why the name change?
February 26th, 2013 at 4:37 pm
http://www.mercurynews.com/raiders/ci_22673637/poole-raiders-carson-palmer-should-follow-tom-bradys
February 26th, 2013 at 4:38 pm
Holmgren has failed as an executive twice. Might be a decent hc, 20 years ago.
February 26th, 2013 at 4:39 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 4:35 pm
quack why the name change?
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Answered above. I was knighted.
February 26th, 2013 at 4:39 pm
NG
That would be our luck.
February 26th, 2013 at 4:40 pm
I’d like to use our 5th round pick on the Fastest player avaliable, just for old times sake.
February 26th, 2013 at 4:40 pm
Holmgren sucked in Seattle as a GM too and he had to give up those duties. He use to always sit with Al at the combine so he does have a relationship with the Davis family…But I’m not excited to see him here.
February 26th, 2013 at 4:41 pm
Sir Raider Duck OMS, I assume you are a member of HRH subjects to have this honor bequathed upon you? Arise, Sir Duck, and take your place amongst the dignitary.
February 26th, 2013 at 4:41 pm
holmgren at his worst is ten times better than shrek…
February 26th, 2013 at 4:41 pm
Duck,
haha same here. wonder which org it was that did that. we shall never know
February 26th, 2013 at 4:42 pm
Ian85 Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 4:10 pm
Can’t we just make Holmgren our coach instead and have DA kick rocks
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ESPN discussed just that (Holmgren naming himself HC) as being an option if DA continues to face plant and Holmgren is hired as president.
February 26th, 2013 at 4:42 pm
Sir RaiderDuck sorry im just not a fan of Allen hopefully he proves me wrong and can right the ship
February 26th, 2013 at 4:43 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 4:40 pm
I’d like to use our 5th round pick on the Fastest player avaliable, just for old times sake.
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will McCalebb last that long i wonder?
February 26th, 2013 at 4:43 pm
How about we just call McCloughan instead of the Walrus.
February 26th, 2013 at 4:44 pm
97.Doesn’t have to be the fastest 40, just the FPA
February 26th, 2013 at 4:45 pm
Actually, both Sporano and Holmgren (if hired) could be sending a message to both DA and MAC, shape up or ship out.
February 26th, 2013 at 4:45 pm
The Big Banana Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 4:42 pm
Ian85 Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 4:10 pm
Can’t we just make Holmgren our coach instead and have DA kick rocks
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ESPN discussed just that (Holmgren naming himself HC) as being an option if DA continues to face plant and Holmgren is hired as president.
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Really ??? Thats very interesting if true
February 26th, 2013 at 4:47 pm
Raiderjambo Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 4:45 pm
Actually, both Sporano and Holmgren (if hired) could be sending a message to both DA and MAC, shape up or ship out.
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I think Mark wants to put the mgmt pieces on place and walk away from it in a sense. But you can bet your britches Mark wasn’t happy with last year.
February 26th, 2013 at 4:48 pm
I liked Holmgren’s picks in Cleveland.
February 26th, 2013 at 4:49 pm
Nothing wrong at all with bringing in Holmgren. Another good football mind.
February 26th, 2013 at 4:51 pm
bring him in and get rid of the scrubs we have now…DA & RM…
February 26th, 2013 at 4:51 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 4:41 pm
holmgren at his worst is ten times better than shrek…
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That may be too early to tell, but Holmgren at his worst(coaching) is ten THOUSAND times better than Denise.
February 26th, 2013 at 4:52 pm
Actually, both Sporano and Holmgren (if hired) could be sending a message to both DA and MAC, shape up or ship out.
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DA and McKenzie send messages to themselves?
February 26th, 2013 at 4:53 pm
Holmgren’s a good coach, but has a pretty limp history as a personnel man. Not sure I see the value in this move.
February 26th, 2013 at 4:53 pm
105.
let it go man. won’t have for a couple more years even if they do suck it up.
February 26th, 2013 at 4:53 pm
won’t happen*
February 26th, 2013 at 4:54 pm
Hopefully the Broncos don’t draft Ryan Swope that will be scary if he gets to play the slot with Manning look out he is a bigger faster version of Wes Welker not to mention he ran a 4.3 and was Tannehill and Manziels go to guy
February 26th, 2013 at 4:55 pm
There were reports that Mark checked with some confidants after the crap we trotted out this past season, just to see what their thoughts are on Reggie and the job he’s doing. Mark wants someone he can trust to make those types of judgements for him.
I think he smartly realizes he’s got a bit of a quick trigger in that area (as evidenced by his speaking out last year and reaming the coach) and that hes a bit more like his father than he realized. He wants an even keel mind he can trust to assess the team.
February 26th, 2013 at 4:56 pm
Sir RaiderDuck, OMS Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 4:49 pm
Nothing wrong at all with bringing in Holmgren. Another good football mind.
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That’s what I am thinking.
February 26th, 2013 at 4:58 pm
Defence!
February 26th, 2013 at 5:00 pm
Alot of Good looking DB’s to choose from. Raiders need to trade back to get more picks.
We need at least two DB’s in the top 4 rounds to mold.
We need at least one of these three guys from the Corners.. Trufant, POYVER out or ORegon State, or Tyrann Mathieu.
like Mayock said about Tyrann he is not a track or fast guy even though he ran a 4.4.. he is a Pure FOOTBALL PLAYER.. and the kid is fearless he loves to tackle and is a turnover machine. and playmaker
Trufant is a plays aggresive as well and Poyver had 7 ints
February 26th, 2013 at 5:00 pm
I really think Reggie should trade back. Peter king said its a lock that lions are taking Dee Milliner if still there at 5
Reggie should show interest in DEE too.. im sure other teams will. TRADE BACK. get a 2nd and 5th round back. Keep trading back till we collect more. Raiders are not in a spot to only have 6 draft picks. Most of these guys in the draft or top 5 rounds could come in and help the Raiders IMEDIATELEY.. .or push or starting spots.
whateveru do.. Draft SIO MOORE.. Bostic looks good too
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Too me if ur gonna stay at 3..
Take Ansah, Fisher, or Dion Jordan Possibly Geno smith
if you trade down
Get Alex Oakafor.. and maybe take a shot at trying to get TAVON AUSTIN.. I know a guy like that is a luxury but you can never have enough EXPOLSIVE PLAYMAKERS like Austin.
We need a few premire College playmakers.. and Austin would be one of then.. GENO is a risk but I trust Reggie and his scouting department who followed this kid for a while.
Would also take a chance in the 4th round if still there on heisman finalist a few yrs ago TYRANN MATHIEU.. The raiders need Playmakers and expolsive guys on OFfense and Defense. If you trade down in the 1st..
Damontre Moore, could be there. Alex Oakfor will be there.. and Tavon Austin in the 20’s.. maybe we can trade with ST. Louis and pick up some good picks.
maybe the raiders are high on DEE MILLINER? another playmaker .. maybe we can get a trade with a another team who wants to jump the lions at 5 who are rumored to take him
February 26th, 2013 at 5:00 pm
inonewordraider Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 4:37 pm
http://www.mercurynews.com/raiders/ci_22673637/poole-raiders-carson-palmer-should-follow-tom-bradys
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this article is ridiculous.
No player should take a pay cut unless he believes that he will have a break out season and raise his value or he is simply out of options.
Players dont get nearly the money that the team gets, and it is their health on the line.
Refusing a pay cut doent make you less than a team player, quitting does.
Refusing a pay cut is simply financial common sense.
Carson and any other player needs to look out for thier own interest not the team.
February 26th, 2013 at 5:01 pm
Sir RaiderDuck, OMS Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 4:49 pm
Nothing wrong at all with bringing in Holmgren. Another good football mind.
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He get fired from Cleveland & his GM duties stripped in Seattle. Coaching mind, yes…Personnel Decision, failure.
February 26th, 2013 at 5:01 pm
peace
February 26th, 2013 at 5:03 pm
The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 5:01 pm
Sir RaiderDuck, OMS Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 4:49 pm
Nothing wrong at all with bringing in Holmgren. Another good football mind.
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He get fired from Cleveland & his GM duties stripped in Seattle. Coaching mind, yes…Personnel Decision, failure.
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I don’t think they would be handing Holmgren the personnel department. That’s Reggie’s job. Just another solid football guy to bounce ideas and direction.
February 26th, 2013 at 5:04 pm
Ian85,
Swope is pretty damn good. I had seen him projected as a mid rounder, but that’s because he was supposedly slow. Very polished, productive receiver. One of, if not my most, favorite receiver in the draft.
February 26th, 2013 at 5:06 pm
Rumor is Reggie is high on Justin Hunter.. ya he has dropsies but scouts said he has good hands and a RZ target .. I think any Tennesse guy is in play with Reggie
February 26th, 2013 at 5:08 pm
#116, I like those choices at #3. Ansah, Jordan, Fisher get me excited.
February 26th, 2013 at 5:11 pm
Via.. Nfldraft scout matt miller
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3. Oakland Raiders Select
The Pick: QB Geno Smith, West Virginia
The Oakland Raiders’ interest in Geno Smith dates back to the Senior Bowl, where I reported that the team had serious interest in the West Virginia quarterback. Geno’s first meeting at the NFL Scouting Combine was also with the Oakland brass.
The Raiders need a quarterback. With Carson Palmer’s contract a nightmare and Terrelle Pryor untested at the position, it wouldn’t be a surprise to see general manager Reggie McKenzie putting his faith and job security on the line for a new passer who can run Greg Olsen’s offense.
Smith isn’t my No. 3 rated player, in fact he’s No. 10 overall, but with the Raiders having a need at the position they could be willing to over-spend in order to land a franchise quarterback.
Smith has been very pointed in comparing himself to Aaron Rodgers. McKenzie and the Raiders will be hoping that comes true.
February 26th, 2013 at 5:12 pm
Chris In NY Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 5:04 pm
Ian85,
Swope is pretty damn good. I had seen him projected as a mid rounder, but that’s because he was supposedly slow. Very polished, productive receiver. One of, if not my most, favorite receiver in the draft.
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I still think he will be a 3rd or 4th round pick even after running a 4.3 but the man can play he had 89 catches for over a 1,000 yards and 11 tds with Tannehill which is a A&M record he then followed that up this year with 72 catches for 913 yds and 8 tds Swope will be a absolute steal
February 26th, 2013 at 5:13 pm
We’ll, we’re in the throes of lying season. No telling what’s true this time of year.
February 26th, 2013 at 5:15 pm
116.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 5:00 pm
I really think Reggie should trade back. Peter king said its a lock that lions are taking Dee Milliner if still there at 5
Reggie should show interest in DEE too.. im sure other teams will. TRADE BACK. get a 2nd and 5th round back. Keep trading back till we collect more. Raiders are not in a spot to only have 6 draft picks. Most of these guys in the draft or top 5 rounds could come in and help the Raiders IMEDIATELEY.. .or push or starting spots.
whateveru do.. Draft SIO MOORE.. Bostic looks good too
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Too me if ur gonna stay at 3..
Take Ansah, Fisher, or Dion Jordan Possibly Geno smith
if you trade down
Get Alex Oakafor.. and maybe take a shot at trying to get TAVON AUSTIN.. I know a guy like that is a luxury but you can never have enough EXPOLSIVE PLAYMAKERS like Austin.
We need a few premire College playmakers.. and Austin would be one of then.. GENO is a risk but I trust Reggie and his scouting department who followed this kid for a while.
Would also take a chance in the 4th round if still there on heisman finalist a few yrs ago TYRANN MATHIEU.. The raiders need Playmakers and expolsive guys on OFfense and Defense. If you trade down in the 1st..
Damontre Moore, could be there. Alex Oakfor will be there.. and Tavon Austin in the 20’s.. maybe we can trade with ST. Louis and pick up some good picks.
maybe the raiders are high on DEE MILLINER? another playmaker .. maybe we can get a trade with a another team who wants to jump the lions at 5 who are rumored to take him
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If Raiders stay at #3 I think McK should definitely pick Jordan, Ansah, Geno or Star. Maaaybe even Fisher.
February 26th, 2013 at 5:15 pm
McKenzie, Holmgren, Allen, Saunders, Sparano, Tarver….this is the making for a good football organization.
February 26th, 2013 at 5:24 pm
I don’t know if it means anything or not but when NFLN asked Geno which teams he interviewed with the first team he mentioned was “Raiders”.
A knee jerk conspirator might read into it by noting it’s the first team that came to his mind…the human brain files things in order of importance. I just made that up but it sounds like it could be correct.
He’s got Raiduh’s on his mind.
Honestly I don’t know if it’s a good thing or bad but I would mix up a batch of Geno koolaid if we did it.
February 26th, 2013 at 5:24 pm
Holmgren was fired from Cleveland after drafting a bunch of O-lineman and still fielding a pathetic offense.
He will learn his lesson, and help Reggie along in drafting the face of the franchise for the next 10 years.
Geno Smith
February 26th, 2013 at 5:28 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 5:24 pm
Holmgren was fired from Cleveland after drafting a bunch of O-lineman and still fielding a pathetic offense.
He will learn his lesson, and help Reggie along in drafting the face of the franchise for the next 10 years.
Geno Smith
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Geno Smith is not worth an overall three. That is painfully apparent.
February 26th, 2013 at 5:28 pm
I can see the Geno/Aaron Rodgers comparisions.
Geno seems a tad more athletic, Rodgers had a stronger down the field arm, IMO, coming out.
Both were very accurate in college, who spread the ball around, and they both have very, very similar throwing motions.
February 26th, 2013 at 5:29 pm
We all know that Big Reg goes with his gut.
Anyone ever eat at a Morgantown, WVa IHOP? Any good?
February 26th, 2013 at 5:31 pm
Geno Smith is not worth an overall three. That is painfully apparent.
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I agree.
What a steal it would be to get him at #3!!!!!!!!
February 26th, 2013 at 5:34 pm
Ian,
As for Swope, that would be tremendous, but why wouldn’t he go sooner now with that time. Sounds like a first rounder to me with performance, polished skills and now great timed speed. It’s possible, but I’d be stunned if he’s not gone in the top 50. Could go sooner.
February 26th, 2013 at 5:35 pm
Why is Reggie always associated with IHOP and not Denny’s or a more expensive restaurant?
Has he actually been spotted there?
February 26th, 2013 at 5:36 pm
As much as I would like, I don’t think we will draft a WR early or at all in this draft.
Kenny Stills is my fav of the class, but I think Woods and Hunter could be solid as well.
We may take a late flyer on a guy like Rodney Smith of FSU, but I doubt it.
Criner and Streater will be looked at to improve in their sophmore year.
February 26th, 2013 at 5:37 pm
Yeah, why not the Cracker Barrel?
You see way more fat people there than IHOP.
IHOP is where old people go to eat lunch.
February 26th, 2013 at 5:39 pm
DJ Johnny
When a prospect is invited to the draft in NY and the Raiders have a top 5 pick, there has been one telling sign of who the Raiders will select.
When Oakland took JaMarcus and DMC, both players were wearing Silver and Black suits. The jacket and pants were black, and either the shirt, tie, or vest would be silver.
February 26th, 2013 at 5:41 pm
If Big Al were still around and he saw Milliner run that 4.31 at the combine, we all know who would have been the No. 3 pick.
February 26th, 2013 at 5:43 pm
How many reps did Honey Badger do on the bench press at the combine?
While benching a certain amount of weight a certain amount of times means little for a defensive back, how’s HB supposed to cover and be physical with tight ends from his safety spot?
Badger did run well though. ESPN’s John Clayton speculating the speed could have vaulted Badger to late second, third round.
February 26th, 2013 at 5:43 pm
Which player at 3 could be immediate starter
February 26th, 2013 at 5:44 pm
Defense!!
February 26th, 2013 at 5:44 pm
Hopefully Reg can work some draft day trades … and I ain’t talkin’ about swapping his side of pancake’s for Raleigh’s side of French toast (though I’d make that move if I were Reg, big French toast fan). No, I mean trading back again and again and again. I’d rather have say three 2nd rounders and no 1s in this draft than the No 3 pick and no 2s.
February 26th, 2013 at 5:45 pm
Badger had minimal bench presses. 3 or 4. The guys were teasing him about it. One more straw on the guy’s back…
February 26th, 2013 at 5:46 pm
100% agree Chris….
February 26th, 2013 at 5:47 pm
I personally have said and believe, that Honey Badger will make a Devin Hester like move to offense.
He can’t make any impact with his size, strength and cover skills in the NFL on defense.
Great return man, kick coverer, and will work some trick plays in for him out of the backfield, etc.
February 26th, 2013 at 5:48 pm
Is a college pass rusher gonna come in and handle these LT’s? Doubt it.
February 26th, 2013 at 5:48 pm
A 170 pound guy benching 225 4 times is not a huge issue for me. He’s got those Polamalu-like instincts. That’s what makes him special.
February 26th, 2013 at 5:50 pm
I personally never was impressed with HB defensively in college. Seemed like his INT’s were thrown right to him, he made his mark in that Oregon game forcing fumbles on a guy who fumbled like 6 times and then was kicked out of school, got a lot of lucky bounces.
He isn’t going to go flying in on NFL WR’s and force a bunch of fumbles, C-Wood is like the best ever at doing that and he would only do it a couple of times a year at best.
February 26th, 2013 at 5:59 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
A knee jerk conspirator?
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Glad there’s none of those around here!
Speaking of Miss Tick, I thought he might enjoy this.
http://deadspin.com/5974789/save-the-black-quarterback
Actually, I thought he might have written it ’till I discovered it was reasonably well thought out.
February 26th, 2013 at 6:06 pm
I know there’s alot of Geno excitement going on around here but it doesn’t make sense to be talking with Palmer about restructuring if the plan is to snag Geno.
Nowadays, if u draft a QB overall # 3 you gotta start him right away. Unless, they need Palmer as insurance in case KC or Jax get to Geno first?
Just speculating here.
February 26th, 2013 at 6:09 pm
but it doesn’t make sense to be talking with Palmer about restructuring if the plan is to snag Geno.
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Sure it does, a better contract makes him more tradeable.
We should sell him on whatever we have to get him to take a paycut in “good faith”, then rip that old “good faith” rug right out from under him by shipping his azz to Cleveland or Jacksonville.
February 26th, 2013 at 6:10 pm
#123 & #116 — I Think Dion Jordan would be a nice addition if he is still available in the 3rd or 4th
Tavon Autin is DEFINITELY a football player. Thats the ONLY WR i would be okay with us drafting in the first round simply because of his explosiveness and playmaking ability. I would like to see us get something of value in return for one of our other receivers (a 5th round pick) if we did decide to trade down and take him.
And Tyrann Methieu is gotdamn Football Player too! I would love to see us stockpile picks and draft in all of our positions of need.
CB – Tryann Methieu ++
WR – Tavon Austin
DE – Dion Jordan, Ansah,
DT –
RT – Eric Fisher (converted)
RG -
LG -
February 26th, 2013 at 6:15 pm
Sure it does, a better contract makes him more tradeable.
We should sell him on whatever we have to get him to take a paycut in “good faith”, then rip that old “good faith” rug right out from under him by shipping his azz to Cleveland or Jacksonville.
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I guess gamblers think everybody is a sucker?
February 26th, 2013 at 6:17 pm
Mathieu isnt 170 .. he weighed in at 186 and said he will be an extra 10 by training camp.. so near 195 ish would be good. He weighs as much as the camp all star
Sterling moore and moore didnt have half the talent as an UDFA at 5ft 9. big deal
gregg rosenthal@greggrosenthal
On a positive note: No DB catches the ball more naturally than Mathieu
Retweeted by Tyrann Mathieu
I get tired of our DB’s dropping all the INTS like Branch
February 26th, 2013 at 6:18 pm
NFL@nfl
Deion Sanders: ‘Tyrann Mathieu will be a baller in the NFL. Immediately.’ http://on.nfl.com/Mathieu #NFLCombine
someone gonna take a chance on this guy.. y cant we have a playmaker?? I loved ASO but he was never a playmaker just locked down the half the field which was good.
C-WOOD was our last Playmaker i believe.. anyone agree?
Tyrann Mathieu@Mathieu_Era Twiter
Games are won on the field not the weight room… #Playmaker
Love that quote from Mathiue. Wise man. Sometimes Al had a hard time with this kinda thing.
February 26th, 2013 at 6:19 pm
Tyrann Mathieu@Mathieu_Era Twiter
Games are won on the field not the weight room… #Playmaker
hard to argue with that being a heisman finalist at 19 yrs old and playing in the SEC whe he was 170
February 26th, 2013 at 6:20 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 5:15 pm
McKenzie, Holmgren, Allen, Saunders, Sparano, Tarver….this is the making for a good football organization.
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I cant wait to see how well they execute during this years draft. Last year we snagged a starting LB in the 4th round.
February 26th, 2013 at 6:21 pm
On a positive note: No DB catches the ball more naturally than Mathieu
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Hence, the move to WR like I have been saying.
February 26th, 2013 at 6:21 pm
FutureRaiderScout Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 6:20 pm
I cant wait to see how well they execute during this years draft. Last year we snagged a starting LB in the 4th round.
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And two more potential starters (Streater and Nix) as UDFAs.
February 26th, 2013 at 6:22 pm
Jack and Landry have been and are still the key to the Warriors.
When they go 5 for 20 like today, we have no chance to win, even with Steph blowing up.
February 26th, 2013 at 6:24 pm
Tyrann Mathieu has been compared to Antoine Winfield.
Not a bad comparison, if you ask me.
Winfield was a beast at Ohio State, then the Buffalo Bills, and now, the Minnesota Vikings. 5-foot-9, 190 and hits like a linebacker.
If Mathieu is that with the hands to boot, a team will take a flier on the Honey Badger.
February 26th, 2013 at 6:25 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 5:24 pm
I don’t know if it means anything or not but when NFLN asked Geno which teams he interviewed with the first team he mentioned was “Raiders”.
A knee jerk conspirator might read into it by noting it’s the first team that came to his mind…the human brain files things in order of importance. I just made that up but it sounds like it could be correct.
He’s got Raiduh’s on his mind.
Honestly I don’t know if it’s a good thing or bad but I would mix up a batch of Geno koolaid if we did it.
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I would too, but only if we do a fire sale along with it… get rid of every single veteran contract on the team… trade every person worth even a 7th rounder. Don’t resign a single free agent. Make sure we are 0-16 next year. Blow the entire franchise up and start over from scratch. Its the only thing that even makes a LICK of sense.
If CP AND/OR Pryor can’t carry this franchise to the next level, we might as well blow it up!
Don’t just dabble around the edges doing it… the teams that do so become Detroit.
February 26th, 2013 at 6:27 pm
POST-156,IF THEY COULD CATH,THEY WOULD BE PLAYING WIDE RECIEVER..(:
February 26th, 2013 at 6:27 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
Sure it does, a better contract makes him more tradeable.
We should sell him on whatever we have to get him to take a paycut in “good faith”, then rip that old “good faith” rug right out from under him by shipping his azz to Cleveland or Jacksonville.
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So, you’ve gone from Palmer may be worth the trade to probably not worth the trade but a damn good QB to an ok QB to what a rip off to let’s fck the sorry piece of sch1t over, in 1 1/2 years, one of which by universal(except for you)opinion was OC’ed by the most clueless game planner and play caller in recent memory.
February 26th, 2013 at 6:28 pm
I have said it before….
If Reggie McKenzie and Co. want a Raiders re-boot, then Carson Palmer has to go.
Start Pryor or draft pick/free agent pickup at QB and move on, for better or worse.
Look, there’s not much on the roster now in terms of helping Palmer succeed right away.
Let him go, give Pryor the starting gig and see where it goes.
If Pryor flops, so be it. At least then, we all know what he is about.
February 26th, 2013 at 6:28 pm
Interesting that the Boston Globe is reporting that New England is said to not be really interested in re-signing Vollmer.
Rather let him walk and give the starting RT gig to Marcus Cannon.
February 26th, 2013 at 6:29 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 6:18 pm
NFL@nfl
Deion Sanders: ‘Tyrann Mathieu will be a baller in the NFL. Immediately.’ http://on.nfl.com/Mathieu #NFLCombine
someone gonna take a chance on this guy.. y cant we have a playmaker?? I loved ASO but he was never a playmaker just locked down the half the field which was good.
C-WOOD was our last Playmaker i believe.. anyone agree?
Tyrann Mathieu@Mathieu_Era Twiter
Games are won on the field not the weight room… #Playmaker
Love that quote from Mathiue. Wise man. Sometimes Al had a hard time with this kinda thing.
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Hearing Prime Time Suggest that Mathieu wont be around past the 2nd Round made me a little uneasy though. We dont have a 2nd rounder this year. Im sure we can get one though.
February 26th, 2013 at 6:30 pm
So, you’ve gone from Palmer may be worth the trade to probably not worth the trade but a damn good QB to an ok QB to what a rip off to let’s fck the sorry piece of sch1t over, in 1 1/2 years,
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Yes, it is a roller-coaster at times, the JFB experience.
February 26th, 2013 at 6:30 pm
If there is’t enough writing on the wall for Reggie yet he must be in a coma. It is blantantly obvious Mark Davis was very unhappy with the job he did.
February 26th, 2013 at 6:31 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 5:43 pm
Which player at 3 could be immediate starter
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Loutelelei, Moore, Werner, Joekel, Fisher, Jarvis Jones,
February 26th, 2013 at 6:31 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 6:09 pm
but it doesn’t make sense to be talking with Palmer about restructuring if the plan is to snag Geno.
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Sure it does, a better contract makes him more tradeable.
We should sell him on whatever we have to get him to take a paycut in “good faith”, then rip that old “good faith” rug right out from under him by shipping his azz to Cleveland or Jacksonville.
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So you STILL think CP is crazy enough to restructure/take a pay cut, so we can TRADE him?
How would THAT benefit him? It would eliminate all his bargaining power!!
You need to stop huffing glue now son!
One of two things will happen. We cut CP and he becomes a free agent… or he restructures which ensures he is our starter for two more years.
Thats the list.
Anything other than this is crazy talk… you just don’t know football!
February 26th, 2013 at 6:31 pm
It is blantantly obvious Mark Davis was very unhappy with the job he did.
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I take the Holmgren and Anderson rumors as people to replace Mark’s role from last year.
Mark was Reggie’s boss last year, these new guys will replace that role from Mark.
More free time to chase tail in LA.
February 26th, 2013 at 6:32 pm
The only sign I’ll take Mark Davis is/was unhappy with Reggie McKenzie is the day Davis fires McKenzie.
Many people here say McKenzie is clueless. To me, Davis is even more brain dead.
February 26th, 2013 at 6:32 pm
jackasspuria Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 6:24 pm
Tyrann Mathieu has been compared to Antoine Winfield.
Not a bad comparison, if you ask me.
Winfield was a beast at Ohio State, then the Buffalo Bills, and now, the Minnesota Vikings. 5-foot-9, 190 and hits like a linebacker.
If Mathieu is that with the hands to boot, a team will take a flier on the Honey Badger.
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mathieu ain’t 190 tho. He is about 165. Maybe 170. That’s fine in college. Not pro tho.
February 26th, 2013 at 6:33 pm
Mark is showing he has zero confidence in Reggie’s moves and hires and if this doesn’t show him nothing will. I’ve been saying since day 1 Reggie needs a boss. And Mark is going out of his way to ensure he gets one. The mistakes Reggie made from firing Hue to hiring DA to bad roster moves have put him on notice.
Get it right or get out…………period
February 26th, 2013 at 6:35 pm
The way Mark truly shows he has zero confidence in McKenzie?
Fires him.
Why keep Reggie around if Mark is so unhappy?
Oh, yeah, I’m assuming Mark has a brain…
February 26th, 2013 at 6:35 pm
The thought of Holmgren as our head coach is making me firm lol.
I won’t get my hopes up though.
This is what happens to me when there is no new blog entries for a week, When there is new info I get a little too excited.
Fire Tits!
February 26th, 2013 at 6:35 pm
Vollmer would be a nice pick up for us def a upgrade over Khalif barnes
February 26th, 2013 at 6:35 pm
Everyone I hear talk about HB is that he is a situational player. The Raiders don’t need situational players.
February 26th, 2013 at 6:37 pm
Seymour Bush
That’s what I hear. People thought DVD was skinny, Honey Badger is pretty light himself.
February 26th, 2013 at 6:37 pm
McKenzie is definitely clueless and if you can’t see that so are you.
February 26th, 2013 at 6:37 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
C-WOOD was our last Playmaker i believe.. anyone agree?
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Almost said Terry Mcdaniel. Hah! Glad I googled him first. Damn,I’m getting old. Seems like yesterday.
February 26th, 2013 at 6:37 pm
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 6:35 pm
The thought of Holmgren as our head coach is making me firm lol.
I won’t get my hopes up though.
This is what happens to me when there is no new blog entries for a week, When there is new info I get a little too excited.
Fire Tits!
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Agree
February 26th, 2013 at 6:38 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 6:30 pm
If there is’t enough writing on the wall for Reggie yet he must be in a coma. It is blantantly obvious Mark Davis was very unhappy with the job he did.
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I don’t think anyone would be happy with 4-12. And just imagine how many fans are not renewing their season tickets right now. That would make any owner pretty pissed.
February 26th, 2013 at 6:39 pm
ian85 Says:
Vollmer would be a nice pick up for us def a upgrade over Khalif barnes
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What? We got rid of Willie Smith?
February 26th, 2013 at 6:39 pm
Priesttj12
And Mark Davis is even more brain-dead if he’s keeping McKenzie on staff.
February 26th, 2013 at 6:39 pm
ian85 Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 6:37 pm
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 6:35 pm
The thought of Holmgren as our head coach is making me firm lol.
I won’t get my hopes up though.
This is what happens to me when there is no new blog entries for a week, When there is new info I get a little too excited.
Fire Tits!
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Agree
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Why does anyone think it is fine to fire the coaching staff each year? Why do you think that?
February 26th, 2013 at 6:40 pm
jackasspuria Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 6:37 pm
Seymour Bush
That’s what I hear. People thought DVD was skinny, Honey Badger is pretty light himself.
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Mathieu makes DVD seem like Tommie Kelly.
February 26th, 2013 at 6:42 pm
Priest keeps saying that Pryor is a pocket passer and doesn’t need his feet and I think he might become that.
Put him out there right now with a one legged Brisiel at RG and Willie Smith at RT and watch him run.
February 26th, 2013 at 6:43 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 6:39 pm
ian85 Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 6:37 pm
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 6:35 pm
The thought of Holmgren as our head coach is making me firm lol.
I won’t get my hopes up though.
This is what happens to me when there is no new blog entries for a week, When there is new info I get a little too excited.
Fire Tits!
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Agree
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Why does anyone think it is fine to fire the coaching staff each year? Why do you think that?
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I love the idea of continuity, I really do.
But… Not just for the sake of being consistent. Do you want to consistently suck?
Dennis Allen IS NOT THE ANSWER AS OUR HEAD COACH.
I would rather have seen the Cable guy or Hue stick around if you want to talk continuity.
When we get a real head coach I would love to have him here for a decade. Still waiting though.
February 26th, 2013 at 6:45 pm
That is trhe very reason Mark is doing this. He knows this draft is critical I think he has requested from the league to allow his staff to coahc the senior bowl and handle the combine duties in order to better read the talent available. I think he saw Reggie bring in players and them not pan out and draft players who didn’t show up. Also to doghouse players that could’ve helped not to mention trade cut and release players they needed.
Reggie has in short been a hot mess and it was extremely frustrating to watch to the point I started HATING this team because pof the lack of vision and direction. Also the preconceaved notions they approached the players with. They wasted a lot of talent last year. Inexcusable.
February 26th, 2013 at 6:47 pm
Updating an earlier item, ESPN’s Adam Schefter confirms the Raiders are talking to former Browns football “czar” Mike Holmgren about a “prominent” leadership role in the organization.
Oh boy. Both sides declined comment, but didn’t offer denials. Holmgren is reportedly on holiday in Europe. Schefter’s colleague Bill Williamson reported one of Holmgren’s duties would be assisting in the Raiders’ quest for new stadium, but “prominent leadership role” suggests he could have a hand in personnel, as well. Considering Holmgren’s success — or lack thereof — in Cleveland and Seattle’s front offices, that’s not a good thing for a team that’s still reeling from the final few years of the late Al Davis’ rule. ———————————————————————-
I will give Holmgren a pass in Cleveland and take him in a heartbeat, proven winner.
February 26th, 2013 at 6:47 pm
153,
Awesome. Then tie him up to a tree and take turns urinating on him.
February 26th, 2013 at 6:47 pm
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 6:43 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 6:39 pm
ian85 Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 6:37 pm
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 6:35 pm
The thought of Holmgren as our head coach is making me firm lol.
I won’t get my hopes up though.
This is what happens to me when there is no new blog entries for a week, When there is new info I get a little too excited.
Fire Tits!
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Agree
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Why does anyone think it is fine to fire the coaching staff each year? Why do you think that?
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I love the idea of continuity, I really do.
But… Not just for the sake of being consistent. Do you want to consistently suck?
Dennis Allen IS NOT THE ANSWER AS OUR HEAD COACH.
I would rather have seen the Cable guy or Hue stick around if you want to talk continuity.
When we get a real head coach I would love to have him here for a decade. Still waiting though.
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I can understand your frustration. Allen will be a very good coach for the Raiders. No doubt about that.
February 26th, 2013 at 6:47 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
Why does anyone think it is fine to fire the coaching staff each year? Why do you think that?
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Because they’re not making me happy and I wanna be happy RIGHT NOW and I don’t want anybody that’s not top 5 or probowl or future hall of fame playing for or coaching on the team I adopted 6 years ago ‘cuz their colors were cool and kinda gangsta.
February 26th, 2013 at 6:50 pm
While I can’t say I disagree the point is no one worth a rats ass was going to come here. I know you say that David Shaw was going to come here to this cesspool but it wasn’t going to happen. We got the best guys available, and we will clearly see next year if they can make any progress. They may not be able to, given the dire situation here.
February 26th, 2013 at 6:51 pm
Because they’re not making me happy and I wanna be happy RIGHT NOW
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hahahaha! good one.
February 26th, 2013 at 6:52 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 6:47 pm
Because they’re not making me happy and I wanna be happy RIGHT NOW and I don’t want anybody that’s not top 5 or probowl or future hall of fame playing for or coaching on the team I adopted 6 years ago ‘cuz their colors were cool and kinda gangsta.
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You just described Hunter S. Thompson, Raideraholic, and about half this board.
February 26th, 2013 at 6:52 pm
Mark is adding a layer of middle management to the organization.
He still stays at the top, but Reggie now has a boss that isn’t him.
Really, it is the way most NFL teams operate. Reggie had it good last year, having nobody above him personnel wise except a doofus owner.
Mark realized this, and is fixing it.
February 26th, 2013 at 6:52 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 6:45 pm
That is trhe very reason Mark is doing this. He knows this draft is critical I think he has requested from the league to allow his staff to coahc the senior bowl and handle the combine duties in order to better read the talent available. I think he saw Reggie bring in players and them not pan out and draft players who didn’t show up. Also to doghouse players that could’ve helped not to mention trade cut and release players they needed.
Reggie has in short been a hot mess and it was extremely frustrating to watch to the point I started HATING this team because pof the lack of vision and direction. Also the preconceaved notions they approached the players with. They wasted a lot of talent last year. Inexcusable.
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You can’t “request” to coach the senior bowl.
Matter of fact the teams that were supposed to coach the senior bowl weren’t able to because of having a coaching staff that was in flux. I.E K.C, Jax
essentialy the Raiders were allowed to coach the senior bowl by default as being the next worst team.
February 26th, 2013 at 6:53 pm
Almost said Terry Mcdaniel. Hah! Glad I googled him first.
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Did you google image him?
Give that one a whurl.
February 26th, 2013 at 6:54 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 6:52 pm
Mark is adding a layer of middle management to the organization.
He still stays at the top, but Reggie now has a boss that isn’t him.
Really, it is the way most NFL teams operate. Reggie had it good last year, having nobody above him personnel wise except a doofus owner.
Mark realized this, and is fixing it.
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Yup. We had a rookie owner, rookie GM, rookie HC rookie DC. If Holmgren signs on, we have a vet to run some of the ops.
February 26th, 2013 at 6:55 pm
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 6:52 pm
You can’t “request” to coach the senior bowl.
Matter of fact the teams that were supposed to coach the senior bowl weren’t able to because of having a coaching staff that was in flux. I.E K.C, Jax
essentialy the Raiders were allowed to coach the senior bowl by default as being the next worst team.
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This is true.
February 26th, 2013 at 6:55 pm
GRUDEN-HOLMGREN-??
February 26th, 2013 at 6:56 pm
I can understand your frustration. Allen will be a very good coach for the Raiders. No doubt about that.
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Just curious why you are so confident of that.
What do you see in Allen that I am obviously missing.
February 26th, 2013 at 6:56 pm
Nothing here about Desmond Bryant’s arrest?
When I saw the story, I prayed, “Please don’t be a Raider….oh damn!”
And Bryant went to Harvard?
February 26th, 2013 at 6:56 pm
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 6:55 pm
GRUDEN-HOLMGREN-??
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Enough with the Gruden talk. He’s not coming back.
February 26th, 2013 at 6:57 pm
http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-desmond-bryant-mug-shot-20130226,0,7052625.story
February 26th, 2013 at 7:00 pm
Kirk Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 6:56 pm
Nothing here about Desmond Bryant’s arrest?
When I saw the story, I prayed, “Please don’t be a Raider….oh damn!”
And Bryant went to Harvard?
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Anyone who has been hammered knows: When its time to get your grub on its time to get your grub on! What’s the big deal? LMAO
February 26th, 2013 at 7:02 pm
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 6:56 pm
I can understand your frustration. Allen will be a very good coach for the Raiders. No doubt about that.
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Just curious why you are so confident of that.
What do you see in Allen that I am obviously missing.
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Two things: he has a command of the field, and he knows what it is going to take to win. What do I mean by that? Well, unlike Jackson who couldn’t get plays called, couldn’t call a coin flip or didn’t go for a two point conversion up by 12, you didn’t see those idiotic simple mistakes last year. The second he got into it with McClain, I knew we had the right guy.
Now, if Al Davis was still here, it would have been, “get ova it” and McClain would be back on the field. That was what Jackson did after McClains arrest. He put him right back out there against Miami, and we got rolled 34-14. Allen has identified the problems. It just might take awhile to remedy them.
February 26th, 2013 at 7:03 pm
Oakland defensive tackle Desmond Bryant was arrested Sunday morning on a misdemeanor charge of criminal mischief after allegedly causing a commotion at a neighbor’s house while inebriated.
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Does he look inebriated to you guys?
February 26th, 2013 at 7:04 pm
Sir RaiderDuck, OMS Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 6:52 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 6:47 pm
Because they’re not making me happy and I wanna be happy RIGHT NOW and I don’t want anybody that’s not top 5 or probowl or future hall of fame playing for or coaching on the team I adopted 6 years ago ‘cuz their colors were cool and kinda gangsta.
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You just described Hunter S. Thompson, Raideraholic, and about half this board.
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I truly appreciate the sarcasm.
But… Just so you know I have bled silver and black since the 80’s and did have not have the benefit of appreciating there superbowl victories as I was too young.
It has been a long time since I have seen the Raiders amomg the elite.
Although they do have “cool” colors I am a fan that has researched every drop of there rich history and have a deep appreciation for Mr. Al Davis as a person and what he stood for.
Also, I am not a short sighted person at all. I just do not see a clear path with this organization at this time, so forgive me for wanting to see something that gives reason for optimism. I stopped drinking the kool aid last year my friend. Win lose or tie silver and black till I die.
February 26th, 2013 at 7:05 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
IHOP is where old people go to eat lunch.
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I’m cool for breakfast?
February 26th, 2013 at 7:07 pm
*not
February 26th, 2013 at 7:11 pm
LOL at the pussification of the NBA.
Calling Lee and Hibbert’s little pushing match a game “marred by a brawl” on ESPN.
Dr. J and Larry Bird once threw down haymakers on each other in a playoff game, and they just told them to go to the locker room for halftime, and they both started the 3rd quarter, lol.
February 26th, 2013 at 7:13 pm
jesusraiderjim Says:
Anyone who has been hammered knows: When its time to get your grub on its time to get your grub on! What’s the big deal? LMAO
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And who the he11 moved my house?
February 26th, 2013 at 7:14 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 7:11 pm
LOL at the pussification of the NBA.
Calling Lee and Hibbert’s little pushing match a game “marred by a brawl” on ESPN.
Dr. J and Larry Bird once threw down haymakers on each other in a playoff game, and they just told them to go to the locker room for halftime, and they both started the 3rd quarter, lol.
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Something tells me the NFL isn’t to far away from that.
February 26th, 2013 at 7:15 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 7:11 pm
LOL at the pussification of the NBA.
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The league does miss Wilt, Russell, Moses Malone and Bill Lambeer.
February 26th, 2013 at 7:15 pm
212.Seymour Bush Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 7:02 pm
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 6:56 pm
I can understand your frustration. Allen will be a very good coach for the Raiders. No doubt about that.
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Just curious why you are so confident of that.
What do you see in Allen that I am obviously missing.
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Two things: he has a command of the field, and he knows what it is going to take to win. What do I mean by that? Well, unlike Jackson who couldn’t get plays called, couldn’t call a coin flip or didn’t go for a two point conversion up by 12, you didn’t see those idiotic simple mistakes last year. The second he got into it with McClain, I knew we had the right guy.
Now, if Al Davis was still here, it would have been, “get ova it” and McClain would be back on the field. That was what Jackson did after McClains arrest. He put him right back out there against Miami, and we got rolled 34-14. Allen has identified the problems. It just might take awhile to remedy them.
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When Reggie and DA get this thing sorted and the Raiders are winning again it will be interesting to see who changes their tune and supports them. Both of those guys have great reputations in the league and their peers speak very highly of them. The players do as well.
The lack of understanding regarding what the two of them are doing right now is astonishing to me. They are righting a ship that has been floundering for over a decade, and people have their panties in a bunch because they’re “sick of losing” and it doesn’t fit with their timeline on when it should happen. Never mind that those people haven’t a clue about how to run an NFL franchise in the modern era, and that the guy that sat in the chair before them (rest in peace) wasn’t all the great at it, either.
February 26th, 2013 at 7:17 pm
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 7:14 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 7:11 pm
LOL at the pussification of the NBA.
Calling Lee and Hibbert’s little pushing match a game “marred by a brawl” on ESPN.
Dr. J and Larry Bird once threw down haymakers on each other in a playoff game, and they just told them to go to the locker room for halftime, and they both started the 3rd quarter, lol.
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Something tells me the NFL isn’t to far away from that.
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I think it is the modern American male. Gets his nails done. Coifs his dome. Bitshes about everything. Just look at this blog. Young females wear the pants in this country. Young males whine and cry.
February 26th, 2013 at 7:17 pm
Where on this football team where you most need a starter next year?
Oline.
February 26th, 2013 at 7:18 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
Did you google image him?
Give that one a whurl.
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Thanks. I really fck’n needed that!
February 26th, 2013 at 7:21 pm
223.KoolKell Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 7:17 pm
Where on this football team where you most need a starter next year?
Oline.
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Respectfully disagree. We absolutely have to have someone that can put pressure on the pocket. Not an easy hole to fill. Power scheme is a lot less of a coordinated dance than zone blocking, and I think our o-line will perform better and struggle a lot less next year with that approach.
February 26th, 2013 at 7:21 pm
Desmond needs a timeout.
February 26th, 2013 at 7:23 pm
KoolKell Says:
Where on this football team where you most need a starter next year?
Oline.
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Damn. Now and then, KK, we’re on the same page!
Trade down and get Warmack in the 1st and Barrett whatsisname in the 2nd, I’d be doing back flips. Use all the rest on “D”.
February 26th, 2013 at 7:24 pm
Do you think Moore or Werner could come into the NFL right away and handle LT’s? I don’t.
February 26th, 2013 at 7:25 pm
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When Reggie and DA get this thing sorted and the Raiders are winning again it will be interesting to see who changes their tune and supports them. Both of those guys have great reputations in the league and their peers speak very highly of them. The players do as well.
The lack of understanding regarding what the two of them are doing right now is astonishing to me. They are righting a ship that has been floundering for over a decade, and people have their panties in a bunch because they’re “sick of losing” and it doesn’t fit with their timeline on when it should happen. Never mind that those people haven’t a clue about how to run an NFL franchise in the modern era, and that the guy that sat in the chair before them (rest in peace) wasn’t all the great at it, either.
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As a Raider fan I will gladly say I was wrong about Dennis Allen.
I understand what the Raiders (Reg) are doing, they are cleaning out a house that is overdue.
Cool, I get that. I also get that Dennis Allen is a lame duck coach who will be the scape goat.
Dennis Allen plain and simple lacks the “it” factor when it comes to leading men.
He is anything but inspiring.
Prove me wrong Dennis-PLEASE.
February 26th, 2013 at 7:26 pm
Don’t like disagreeing with Teach, but I gotta stick with at least half my scenario. Always liked what Cable said; ‘ZBS, PBS, it’s football. Take care of tour assignment.’
February 26th, 2013 at 7:27 pm
edward teach Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 7:21 pm
223.KoolKell Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 7:17 pm
Where on this football team where you most need a starter next year?
Oline.
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Respectfully disagree. We absolutely have to have someone that can put pressure on the pocket. Not an easy hole to fill. Power scheme is a lot less of a coordinated dance than zone blocking, and I think our o-line will perform better and struggle a lot less next year with that approach.
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Yup. Getting a solid pass rusher especially early will not only improve the defensive line players that remain, but will improve the secondary. It is an absolute must.
February 26th, 2013 at 7:27 pm
KK,
All last year you posted the stats of the sacks of our O-line, and called it the “#5 O-line in the NFL”.
Not doing that this year I take it?
February 26th, 2013 at 7:28 pm
AAAA HAAAAA.Like I been sayin.GOODBY REGGIE BOTTOM LIP,and good ridence.Mark is just about done with this retard.No more zoneblocking,no more Reggie,no more Denise.MAN IM TIRED OF BEING RIGHT!!!!!!
February 26th, 2013 at 7:28 pm
Thanks. I really fck’n needed that!
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Old blog trick, I have got at least 4-5 guys on it.
February 26th, 2013 at 7:28 pm
EJ Manuel the quarterback out of Florida State is going to be a steal. If he is there in the 3rd or 4th round, the Raiders should take him. He reminds me of Colin Kapernick.
February 26th, 2013 at 7:28 pm
Kirk Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 7:21 pm
Desmond needs a timeout.
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Nah, he just needs to keep a couple sandwhiches in his pocket when he goes out on a bender.
February 26th, 2013 at 7:29 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
I think it is the modern American male. Gets his nails done. Coifs his dome. Bitshes about everything. Just look at this blog. Young females wear the pants in this country. Young males whine and cry.
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Used to be the young bikers scared the old folks. Now the old bikers scare the young ‘uns.
February 26th, 2013 at 7:29 pm
No to holmgren! if yes he needs to be below Reggie, hierarchically speaking..
Mark owner
Reggie Boss
Holmgren front office stuff.. change the water cooler, buy more post-its and so on..
February 26th, 2013 at 7:30 pm
228.KoolKell Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 7:24 pm
Do you think Moore or Werner could come into the NFL right away and handle LT’s? I don’t.
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Doesn’t have to be Moore or Werner, and the player doesn’t have to come off the edge to pressure the pocket. Could be a DT, could be another one of the edge guys, could be Jarvis Jones. The guy could also come from the free agent market.
Let’s face it, we need help at a lot of positions. We had a noticeably weak pass rush last year though, and it HAS to be addressed.
February 26th, 2013 at 7:31 pm
The organization needs someone like Holmgren just to get some respect in regards to landing a new stadiun imo.
February 26th, 2013 at 7:32 pm
A constant and solid pass rush can make any secondary look good.
February 26th, 2013 at 7:33 pm
Mark owner.Holmgren GM.New head coach, one with credentials.
February 26th, 2013 at 7:33 pm
Just let reggie do his thing Mark. God dang this team just wont do things the right way. Let these two guys have a complete draft and picks and team. The whole team is still not these guys team. The wr,QB,OL,DL,SS,CB. the whole team and salary cap wasnt reggies or dennis. Let them build there team.
February 26th, 2013 at 7:34 pm
New report characterizes Asomugha as aloof
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PFT really digging for topics lol
February 26th, 2013 at 7:34 pm
243.Que Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 7:33 pm
Just let reggie do his thing Mark. God dang this team just wont do things the right way. Let these two guys have a complete draft and picks and team. The whole team is still not these guys team. The wr,QB,OL,DL,SS,CB. the whole team and salary cap wasnt reggies or dennis. Let them build there team.
FK THAT!! they suck.
February 26th, 2013 at 7:35 pm
Holmgrem to Denise Take your bra and leave jerky!
February 26th, 2013 at 7:35 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 7:29 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
I think it is the modern American male. Gets his nails done. Coifs his dome. Bitshes about everything. Just look at this blog. Young females wear the pants in this country. Young males whine and cry.
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Used to be the young bikers scared the old folks. Now the old bikers scare the young ‘uns.
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hahahaha! Dude you should have your own show!
February 26th, 2013 at 7:37 pm
A constant and solid pass rush can make any secondary look good.
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Didn’t work so well for the 49ers, as it was their achillies heel at times all year and especially in the playoffs.
February 26th, 2013 at 7:37 pm
jackasspuria Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 7:32 pm
A constant and solid pass rush can make any secondary look good.
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And ours was sporadic, runny and weak. And then when Seymour went down, completely non existent.
February 26th, 2013 at 7:37 pm
Watch your cigs around Reggies hair.POOOOOOF.
February 26th, 2013 at 7:37 pm
I agree a pass rusher is needed. I just don’t think you get an instant starter in the draft.
February 26th, 2013 at 7:38 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 7:37 pm
A constant and solid pass rush can make any secondary look good.
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Didn’t work so well for the 49ers, as it was their achillies heel at times all year and especially in the playoffs.
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Once Justin Smith tore his Triceps, teams could focus on Aldon Smith and that was that.
February 26th, 2013 at 7:40 pm
128.Seymour Bush Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 5:15 pm
McKenzie, Holmgren, Allen, Saunders, Sparano, Tarver….this is the making for a good football organization.
Minus Allen and bottom lip.
February 26th, 2013 at 7:40 pm
KK,
Just going to ignore my comment to you?
Appears you have an “agenda”; so disingenous.
February 26th, 2013 at 7:42 pm
88.Sir RaiderDuck, OMS Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 4:39 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 4:35 pm
quack why the name change?
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Answered above. I was knighted.
Not this snapperhead.
February 26th, 2013 at 7:43 pm
JFB
The raiders pass protection has been good stat wise the last 2 years. But, I also think Carlilse and Briesel should be replaced. What?
February 26th, 2013 at 7:43 pm
oakfshow Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 7:33 pm
Mark owner.Holmgren GM.New head coach, one with credentials.
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when has Oakland ever hired a coach with credentials? Norv Turner was maybe the only one, and poor one..
Holmgren as GM, hell no, he’ll do what Parcels did in Miami, set us further years back..
Reggie does a damn good job, and DA will too when Reggie gets our economy going and gets him the right players..
if you plan on to bet the entire franchise and to get a Playoff visit, you might do better as a Redskins fan. Bruce Allen, is about to make it DC a playoff team for 4 years and then a decade in the shadows..
I rather have a healthy franchise and become a dynasty than a few visits to the playoffs – but that will only happen with patience, due diligence and prudency..
February 26th, 2013 at 7:44 pm
Holmgren and Gruden back together again.
February 26th, 2013 at 7:44 pm
251.KoolKell Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 7:37 pm
I agree a pass rusher is needed. I just don’t think you get an instant starter in the draft.
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Definitely a crapshoot, “can’t miss” prospects included.
There are two players in the recent past that come to mind, though. Both JPP and Aldon Smith were looked at as very raw physical specimens coming out. Nobody saw them accomplishing what they did so early in their careers (including, I would say, the teams that drafted them).
So, you never know.
February 26th, 2013 at 7:45 pm
257.La Milicia Negra Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 7:43 pm
oakfshow Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 7:33 pm
Mark owner.Holmgren GM.New head coach, one with credentials.
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when has Oakland ever hired a coach with credentials? Norv Turner was maybe the only one, and poor one..
Holmgren as GM, hell no, he’ll do what Parcels did in Miami, set us further years back..
Reggie does a damn good job, and DA will too when Reggie gets our economy going and gets him the right players..
if you plan on to bet the entire franchise and to get a Playoff visit, you might do better as a Redskins fan. Bruce Allen, is about to make it DC a playoff team for 4 years and then a decade in the shadows..
I rather have a healthy franchise and become a dynasty than a few visits to the playoffs – but that will only happen with patience, due diligence and prudency..
Reggie does a damn good job??? JEEEEEZUS CHRISTMAS.
February 26th, 2013 at 7:45 pm
The Beeech Diggity Dawg Says:
You stick your right hand in tub of glue, then into a pile of mashed up bananas, then finger bang both holes while sipping a milkshake
The_Judge37 Says:
Does the Milkshake have to be a specific flavor to pull this off?
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Your hand is covered in glue. I don’t want to know what you pulled off.
February 26th, 2013 at 7:47 pm
Thank you, and I agree on Briesel.
Carlisle has to be replaced with someone better.
We are on our 3rd GM(if you count Hue) and 4th HC since we got him, and so far none of them could find a better replacement.
He is solid in pass-protection, and very rarely penalized (did tick up last year).
February 26th, 2013 at 7:47 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U7_hzArz2w
look at this video and tell me from a football standpoint, u don’t want this guy on your team. str8 baller!!!
Draft Tyrann
February 26th, 2013 at 7:48 pm
I rather have a healthy franchise and become a dynasty than a few visits to the playoffs – but that will only happen with patience, due diligence and prudency..
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Sounds like Reggie’s MO.
February 26th, 2013 at 7:49 pm
Edge rusher,D-tackle,Corner.Those are the priorities.
February 26th, 2013 at 7:49 pm
edward teach Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 7:44 pm
251.KoolKell Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 7:37 pm
I agree a pass rusher is needed. I just don’t think you get an instant starter in the draft.
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Definitely a crapshoot, “can’t miss” prospects included.
There are two players in the recent past that come to mind, though. Both JPP and Aldon Smith were looked at as very raw physical specimens coming out. Nobody saw them accomplishing what they did so early in their careers (including, I would say, the teams that drafted them).
So, you never know.
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Both of those players have the same thing in common: there were other guys around them. Once guys like Kiwanuka, Cofield, Justin Smith were neutralized, those rushers became much more ordinary. But the point is you need a few guys on the Dline.
February 26th, 2013 at 7:49 pm
When Reg came in he basically wrote off 2012/2013
hence hiring D.A.
I guess D.A. is a good coach if your trying to get a higher draft pick.
2014 we will have some decent cap space, all our draft picks, and a new head coach.
2014 back to respectabilty
2015 wild card berth
February 26th, 2013 at 7:50 pm
Patience.Jesus son,this is the NFL.
February 26th, 2013 at 7:51 pm
oakfshow Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 7:44 pm
Holmgren and Gruden back together again.
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yeah and Clinton in the white house, grunge music back on radio, no internet and only one war in iraq..
dream on or grow up, learn a bit and recognize the sport and the world has changed…
February 26th, 2013 at 7:52 pm
267.Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 7:49 pm
When Reg came in he basically wrote off 2012/2013
hence hiring D.A.
I guess D.A. is a good coach if your trying to get a higher draft pick.
2014 we will have some decent cap space, all our draft picks, and a new head coach.
2014 back to respectabilty
2015 wild card berth
2014 #1 overall pick in the draft.Dont get ahead of yourself.This squad is crap.Reggies legacy.
February 26th, 2013 at 7:53 pm
269.La Milicia Negra Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 7:51 pm
oakfshow Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 7:44 pm
Holmgren and Gruden back together again.
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yeah and Clinton in the white house, grunge music back on radio, no internet and only one war in iraq..
dream on or grow up, learn a bit and recognize the sport and the world has changed…
Thats what I get for responding to a guy who’s screen name is jibber jabber blah blah.
February 26th, 2013 at 7:53 pm
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 7:49 pm
When Reg came in he basically wrote off 2012/2013
hence hiring D.A.
I guess D.A. is a good coach if your trying to get a higher draft pick.
2014 we will have some decent cap space, all our draft picks, and a new head coach.
2014 back to respectabilty
2015 wild card berth
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I agree, but I still dont rule out DA as a part of that, with proper personel he could do something.. 2014 anything below 9 wins and he is out
February 26th, 2013 at 7:55 pm
Qakfshow, what have you been doing since you last graced us with your presence?
I’ll leave the follow up questions to the collective.
February 26th, 2013 at 7:56 pm
I would be cool with drafting HB in the 3rd round, and telling him on focusing on being a Pro Bowl kick returner for now.
Best way to help an anemic offense; house a punt or two and not leave it up to the offense.
February 26th, 2013 at 7:56 pm
I think Star would be an instant starter and Warmack would be an instant starter.
But, rookie DE up one on one with LT’s?
February 26th, 2013 at 7:57 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 7:49 pm
Both of those players have the same thing in common: there were other guys around them. Once guys like Kiwanuka, Cofield, Justin Smith were neutralized, those rushers became much more ordinary. But the point is you need a few guys on the Dline.
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No question. I think that with your best pass rusher the key is to get one-on-ones as often as possible, whether by blitzing from different positions or by having other guys (as the Giants and Niners did) that have to be accounted for.
Gotta have at least one guy that can get there consistently, though.
February 26th, 2013 at 7:57 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 7:55 pm
Qakfshow, what have you been doing since you last graced us with your presence?
I’ll leave the follow up questions to the collective.
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Pleasuring himself to Justin Bieber pictures, no doubt.
February 26th, 2013 at 7:58 pm
Why would anyone think hiring Andy Reid somehow increases our chances of bringing in Gruden?
Because they worked together? Gruden worked in the NFL for almost 15 years with 4 different teams, he has worked with EVERYONE.
Gruden doesn’t want to work for ANYONE, he wants them to work for him.
February 26th, 2013 at 7:59 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 7:56 pm
I would be cool with drafting HB in the 3rd round, and telling him on focusing on being a Pro Bowl kick returner for now.
Best way to help an anemic offense; house a punt or two and not leave it up to the offense.
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yup, Ravens showed that special teams is a valid 3rd part of the team, though still under estimated..
you can have a poor defense and a 3 point offense and still win if your special teams unit is top-notch..
February 26th, 2013 at 8:00 pm
edward teach Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 7:57 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 7:49 pm
Both of those players have the same thing in common: there were other guys around them. Once guys like Kiwanuka, Cofield, Justin Smith were neutralized, those rushers became much more ordinary. But the point is you need a few guys on the Dline.
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No question. I think that with your best pass rusher the key is to get one-on-ones as often as possible, whether by blitzing from different positions or by having other guys (as the Giants and Niners did) that have to be accounted for.
Gotta have at least one guy that can get there consistently, though.
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Between a Lamar Houston, Demontre Moore, and Desmond Bryant you have some good rushers right there. Keep Andre Carter as a situational rusher, and keep building that line and good things will happen.
February 26th, 2013 at 8:02 pm
Sir RaiderDuck, OMS Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 7:57 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 7:55 pm
Qakfshow, what have you been doing since you last graced us with your presence?
I’ll leave the follow up questions to the collective.
sup Mr zoneblocking playoffs idiot?
February 26th, 2013 at 8:02 pm
Bears rode Devin Hester to a Super Bowl, and damn near won the thing.
Defense was good, but not like they were pitching shutouts in the playoffs.
Return game is vital, especially if your offense stinks, and we can’t count on Jacoby Ford for anything other than disappointment.
February 26th, 2013 at 8:02 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 7:27 pm
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Yup. Getting a solid pass rusher especially early will not only improve the defensive line players that remain, but will improve the secondary. It is an absolute must.
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If they take this approach I sure as hell hope they trade down not once, but several times before drafting. This draft is supposed to be deep with defense, and most of them are 50/50 coin flips statistically anyway.
I am fine with drafting o-line at #3, and even can hold my nose with Geno at three.
But if we draft a flavor-of-the-week defensive player at three this franchise is doomed, IMO.
Reggie has no clue what he is doing! He just as well let the people writing in this forum do the drafting!!
February 26th, 2013 at 8:03 pm
When Reggie and DA get this thing sorted and the Raiders are winning again it will be interesting to see who changes their tune and supports them. Both of those guys have great reputations in the league and their peers speak very highly of them. The players do as well.
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After Coach Tits is fired it will be interesting to see if he can find employment as a HS coach.
After Coach Tits is fired it will be interesting to see if Mike Holmgren considers coming out of retirement to coach the Raiders himself, or will merely assist Regina in finding and hiring a competent HC.
After Coach Tits is fired it will be interesting to see who changes their tune and says they now realize he should have been sent packing with Greg Krapp.
February 26th, 2013 at 8:03 pm
171.Priesttj12 Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 6:30 pm
If there is’t enough writing on the wall for Reggie yet he must be in a coma. It is blantantly obvious Mark Davis was very unhappy with the job he did.
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The question I’d love answered is this: Who is responsible for firing Hue Jackson? Several members of the media have insisted that it was Mark’s call, but Reggie and Mark (on multiple occasions) have pinned that one on Reggie.
Are they lying? Why? If they’re telling the truty and it was Reggie who talked Mark into letting him “get his own guy” — who went 4-12 and clearly did not thrill Mark who openly questioned his passion and then had the 3rd Harbaugh brother joke a few weeks ago — then maybe Mark is so pissed at letting Reggie talk him into firing Hue.
February 26th, 2013 at 8:04 pm
After Coach Tits is fired it will be interesting to see who changes their tune and says they now realize he should have been sent packing with Greg Krapp.
It will be the same group of playoff predictors for sure.
February 26th, 2013 at 8:05 pm
I think the two biggest coaching losses for the Raiders over the past few years were Brian Schneider and Mike Waufle.
Schneider had the special teams playing well, and Waufle was pretty much the guy that developed and implemented that fearsome d-line rotation in New York. I like what they both did here and wish they were still around.
February 26th, 2013 at 8:05 pm
You get Geno and then HB, you are talking about knabbing the best QB and the best return man/Special teamer in the draft.
That’s a helluva base to start off with in a draft. Grab an OG, maybe an ILB prospect or TE, and we are on to something.
Address other issues (pass-rush) in FA. Bergstrom is your RT.
February 26th, 2013 at 8:06 pm
La Milicia Negra
Says: I rather have a healthy franchise and become a dynasty than a few visits to the playoffs – but that will only happen with patience, due diligence and prudency..
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Spoken like a true European with a thousand year history. We’re Americans. We don’t go in for that stuff!
February 26th, 2013 at 8:06 pm
288.Just Fire Baby Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 8:05 pm
You get Geno and then HB, you are talking about knabbing the best QB and the best return man/Special teamer in the draft.
That’s a helluva base to start off with in a draft. Grab an OG, maybe an ILB prospect or TE, and we are on to something.
Address other issues (pass-rush) in FA. Bergstrom is your RT.
OMFG!!
February 26th, 2013 at 8:08 pm
To trade down, you need a trade up partner.
The way the top of this draft is unfolding, good luck with that.
We are stuck at #3, IMO, unless we are talking about taking a 4th round pick to move down 2-3 spots, instead of the one spot #3 traded down from last year for a 4th.
February 26th, 2013 at 8:09 pm
Bergstrom was McKenzie’s first ever draft pick as a GM.
He will start, by mandate if not performance.
I think he will be fine at RT, he was a All-Conference LT in college.
That will emerge as a very, very solid draft selection.
February 26th, 2013 at 8:10 pm
Edge rusher,D-tackle,corner.Will score more points this year with a real Offenive scheme.
February 26th, 2013 at 8:11 pm
edward teach Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 8:05 pm
I think the two biggest coaching losses for the Raiders over the past few years were Brian Schneider and Mike Waufle.
Schneider had the special teams playing well, and Waufle was pretty much the guy that developed and implemented that fearsome d-line rotation in New York. I like what they both did here and wish they were still around.
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I totaly agree, I actually talked about this at a dinner party a few days ago..
February 26th, 2013 at 8:12 pm
I totaly agree, I actually talked about this at a dinner party a few days ago..
How many tacos did you consume while talking about soccer?
February 26th, 2013 at 8:13 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 8:06 pm
La Milicia Negra
Says: I rather have a healthy franchise and become a dynasty than a few visits to the playoffs – but that will only happen with patience, due diligence and prudency..
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Spoken like a true European with a thousand year history. We’re Americans. We don’t go in for that stuff!
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LOL, craving for that instant gratification is a b!atch..
February 26th, 2013 at 8:15 pm
oakfshow Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 8:12 pm
I totaly agree, I actually talked about this at a dinner party a few days ago..
How many tacos did you consume while talking about soccer?
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folks an knife dinner, not that I believe you know either.. wine in proper glasses, not paper cups poured from bottles in brown bags..
February 26th, 2013 at 8:16 pm
EJ Manuel will be a better quarterback than Geno. Write it down!! Take it to the bank!!!!
February 26th, 2013 at 8:17 pm
forks… even….
my cue to go home, see ya gents, take care…
February 26th, 2013 at 8:17 pm
Reggie has no clue what he is doing! He just as well let the people writing in this forum do the drafting!!
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Jesus, don’t say that. people in this forum couldn’t find Andrew Luck if he was sitting in their living rooms signing autographs.
February 26th, 2013 at 8:18 pm
If the old man were still around he’d be drafting…Dee Milliner! I wouldn’t criticize that pick either, we got so many holes and just 1 1st round pick!
On top of that… homeboy ran a 4.37, good old Al speed!!
I’m beginning to like that one cat from Oregon too!!
February 26th, 2013 at 8:19 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
To trade down, you need a trade up partner.
The way the top of this draft is unfolding, good luck with that.
We are stuck at #3, IMO, unless we are talking about taking a 4th round pick to move down 2-3 spots, instead of the one spot #3 traded down from last year for a 4th.
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Not sure what you just said, but I think I understand your meaning. We probably won’t get as sweet a deal as some top heavy drafts have provided, but I think you take what you can get for more picks in our situation.
February 26th, 2013 at 8:20 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 8:08 pm
To trade down, you need a trade up partner.
The way the top of this draft is unfolding, good luck with that.
We are stuck at #3, IMO, unless we are talking about taking a 4th round pick to move down 2-3 spots, instead of the one spot #3 traded down from last year for a 4th.
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I am not privy to being a drafting insider, but I would bet dollars to dimes that there will easily be a trade partner available in the top three with the new rookie salary rules.
February 26th, 2013 at 8:21 pm
reggie svcks aszsz if youre impressed with his moves there is no hope for you…
February 26th, 2013 at 8:21 pm
edward teach Says:
I think the two biggest coaching losses for the Raiders over the past few years were Brian Schneider and Mike Waufle.
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Would hiring Knapp count as a coaching loss?
February 26th, 2013 at 8:22 pm
Our defense w/out McClain and Seymour was the # 2 ranked overall D in the league over the final quarter of the season. 9th in sacks over that time as well.
Our offense is going back to the 2011 scheme before Knapp screwed it all up.
DMAC is in a contract yr. and will ball out.
Ford is back to bolster the kick returns.
We have the 4th easiest schedule in the league.
I’m not saying to get your SB tickets yet, but we can at least entertain the possibility that the defensive surge was more than just a 4 game fluke, and that the same offense (minus that key piece that left for Chi. and took his 3.8 ypc. with him) can return to it’s 2011 form.
Likely? Maybe not. Possibly? Why not.
February 26th, 2013 at 8:26 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 8:19 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
To trade down, you need a trade up partner.
The way the top of this draft is unfolding, good luck with that.
We are stuck at #3, IMO, unless we are talking about taking a 4th round pick to move down 2-3 spots, instead of the one spot #3 traded down from last year for a 4th.
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Not sure what you just said, but I think I understand your meaning. We probably won’t get as sweet a deal as some top heavy drafts have provided, but I think you take what you can get for more picks in our situation.
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There’s some crappy teams with a stock pile of picks… and they all might have their eyes on a certain player.
All it takes is just two teams bidding… I imagine most of this is worked out way before the draft starts this high up.
February 26th, 2013 at 8:27 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 8:09 pm
Bergstrom was McKenzie’s first ever draft pick as a GM.
He will start, by mandate if not performance.
I think he will be fine at RT, he was a All-Conference LT in college.
That will emerge as a very, very solid draft selection.
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The fact that the 26-year-old rookie couldn’t sniff the field when Willie Smith was getting beat like a drum each week was troubling. Though that could just as likely be on terrible coaching decisions as much as anything else.
February 26th, 2013 at 8:30 pm
305.Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 8:21 pm
edward teach Says:
I think the two biggest coaching losses for the Raiders over the past few years were Brian Schneider and Mike Waufle.
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Would hiring Knapp count as a coaching loss?
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Not sure, but firing him would not.
February 26th, 2013 at 8:37 pm
reggie has flopped more than romney…
February 26th, 2013 at 8:39 pm
I think when you go 4-12, you’ve earned the #3 pick, and ought to indulge.
February 26th, 2013 at 8:40 pm
Last year, the #3 traded down to #4 and got a 4th round pick.
#5 traded down to #7, and got a 4th and a 5th.
#6 traded down to #14 and got a mid 2nd.
None of that seems real appealing.
February 26th, 2013 at 8:43 pm
And last year was a better draft class than this year.
A team moved up to get Trent Richardson, Morris Claiborne and Mark Barron.
All three of those guys were better prospects at their position(s) than the guys coming out this year at them.
If we do trade down, people in here are going to be real disappointed with the booty we get from it.
February 26th, 2013 at 8:43 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 8:05 pm
You get Geno and then HB, you are talking about knabbing the best QB and the best return man/Special teamer in the draft.
That’s a helluva base to start off with in a draft. Grab an OG, maybe an ILB prospect or TE, and we are on to something.
Address other issues (pass-rush) in FA. Bergstrom is your RT.
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Credit to you for having a plan. Like your thinking. Especially the part about moving past CP.
But…
I’m going to have to say I can’t buy into Geno Smith.
Saw a clip of some ridiculously poor throws by Geno on the NFLN yesterday.
That, along with his performance against Syracuse, has me leaning strongly against drafting GS.
IMO, GS can be anything between a bust or an average NFL QB but I don’t think his ceiling warrants being drafted #3.
BTW, I know you’re very high on Aaron Murray in next year’s draft.
I’m in a bubble bursting mode tonight, and will predict Murray is going to be an NFL bust.
Rex Grossman 2.0.
Eventually, the RAID search for a franchise QB will come to an end, but I don’t believe it’ll be with either of these guys.
February 26th, 2013 at 8:44 pm
Speaking of Seymour, there are still no definitive reports of his release, or his becoming a free agent on the official NFL Transactions site where other releases and signings are listed. Supposedly Feb. 8th was the deadline for the Raiders to excercise their option to void his contract and report it to the NFL who would then make it public. He is still listed on the
Raiders roster(injured reserve) and almost more tellingly, wikipedia.
Before you say how many times his release has been reported, it never has. Not Cork, JMac, Paul G., Vic Tafur, Levi, nobody. Lots of assumed, all but done,widely expected, likely etc.etc.etc.
Google ‘Richard Seymour contract voided’ and see what you get. Kawakami did say it automatically voided which is dead wrong. Surprise, surprise.
February 26th, 2013 at 8:45 pm
Just curious what the story is with Big Sey?
February 26th, 2013 at 8:47 pm
#6 traded down to #14 and got a mid 2nd.
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If dealing the #3 kept me in the top ten and gave me a second rounder (which I don’t currently have)?
I’d do that deal in a second.
February 26th, 2013 at 8:47 pm
I’d rather have Star or Womack or Jokel over any two, but I’m no draft guy.
February 26th, 2013 at 8:48 pm
edward teach Says:
Not sure, but firing him would not.
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Hah!
February 26th, 2013 at 8:49 pm
Aaron Murray has some serious panache to him, I like the swagger. Of course Grossman was seen as “fiery” as well, so who knows. He also pushes the ball down the field, almost to a fault at times. Al would have loved him.
Geno is more of a deep-thinking type dude, likes to paint water-colors. Still liken him to a more athletic, slightly less accurate Matt Ryan, which I know breaks the cardinal rule of comparing a white guy to a black guy, but I am rolling with it.
February 26th, 2013 at 8:49 pm
Gdog Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 8:26 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 8:19 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
To trade down, you need a trade up partner.
The way the top of this draft is unfolding, good luck with that.
We are stuck at #3, IMO, unless we are talking about taking a 4th round pick to move down 2-3 spots, instead of the one spot #3 traded down from last year for a 4th.
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Not sure what you just said, but I think I understand your meaning. We probably won’t get as sweet a deal as some top heavy drafts have provided, but I think you take what you can get for more picks in our situation.
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There’s some crappy teams with a stock pile of picks… and they all might have their eyes on a certain player.
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This is exactly right. Since there are no consensus one, two and three in this draft, and players seem to be shifting up and down every day, that is good news for the Raiders. + there are teams like St. Louis, or the Whiners that have a plethora of picks. If you are the Whiners would you not want to trade a couple of high lst rounders for a shot at Milliner or Moore or Werner? Makes sense to me.
February 26th, 2013 at 8:52 pm
edward teach Says:
#6 traded down to #14 and got a mid 2nd.
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If dealing the #3 kept me in the top ten and gave me a second rounder (which I don’t currently have)?
I’d do that deal in a second.
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I’d take the 14 and mid 2nd. Try for a high 2nd but still…
Supposed to be a D line cornucopia this year.
I’d still use one of those first two on the O line.
February 26th, 2013 at 8:52 pm
From 6 to 14 is 8 spots (I used my fingers).
Now granted trading up to #3 should cost more than #6, but if we trade down 7 spots let’s say instead of 8, that 2nd rounder would be the 10th pick in the second round, as opposed to the 14th pick in the 2nd round that the Bucs got last year.
So that is my theory. If we want a 2nd rounder outright, we will have to move down 6-8 spots.
We could always toss in one of our 6ths to try to sweeten it up. Say swap from #3 to #7, give them a 6th and they give us their 2nd.
February 26th, 2013 at 8:55 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
Geno is more of a deep-thinking type dude, likes to paint water-colors. Still liken him to a more athletic, slightly less accurate Matt Ryan, which I know breaks the cardinal rule of comparing a white guy to a black guy, but I am rolling with it.
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Thought we’d been doing that for the last 6 months.
February 26th, 2013 at 8:55 pm
Reggie is an over matched rube with an over sized bag of excuses.
Bring on the Walrus.
Just Win Baby.
February 26th, 2013 at 8:56 pm
323.Just Fire Baby Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 8:52 pm
From 6 to 14 is 8 spots (I used my fingers).
Now granted trading up to #3 should cost more than #6, but if we trade down 7 spots let’s say instead of 8, that 2nd rounder would be the 10th pick in the second round, as opposed to the 14th pick in the 2nd round that the Bucs got last year.
So that is my theory. If we want a 2nd rounder outright, we will have to move down 6-8 spots.
We could always toss in one of our 6ths to try to sweeten it up. Say swap from #3 to #7, give them a 6th and they give us their 2nd.
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Did you just change your mind? In the previous post you said that it didn’t sound appealing…
February 26th, 2013 at 8:58 pm
fire reggie now…
February 26th, 2013 at 8:58 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 8:45 pm
Just curious what the story is with Big Sey?
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Contrary to what every person on this board thinks, they want him here for one more year. I believe he is mulling his options as we speak.
February 26th, 2013 at 8:59 pm
“From wins we shall scurry…to draft Aaron Murray”.
“Get blurry for Murray”
“Lose in a hurry to draft Aaron Murray”
February 26th, 2013 at 8:59 pm
Just saw a picture of Barret Jones at the combine, and let’s say he looks like a young, gay Wayne Newton.
Also suffered a Lis Franc injury? No chance he will be ready for the beginning of camps, IMO.
Dude might be avail in the 3rd round.
February 26th, 2013 at 9:01 pm
Did you just change your mind? In the previous post you said that it didn’t sound appealing…
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Sorry, that was supposed to be the jist of my post.
Trading down 6-8 spots for a 2nd rounder? Not all that appealing.
Trading down a few spots for a 4th or 5th rounder? Not at all interested.
February 26th, 2013 at 9:03 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 8:52 pm
From 6 to 14 is 8 spots (I used my fingers).
Now granted trading up to #3 should cost more than #6, but if we trade down 7 spots let’s say instead of 8, that 2nd rounder would be the 10th pick in the second round, as opposed to the 14th pick in the 2nd round that the Bucs got last year.
So that is my theory. If we want a 2nd rounder outright, we will have to move down 6-8 spots.
We could always toss in one of our 6ths to try to sweeten it up. Say swap from #3 to #7, give them a 6th and they give us their 2nd.
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Where do I sign?
Just got back from L.A. a few hours ago..listing to 710 am on the way back and heard Matt Barkley and Raiders talk! I guess the Raiders interviewed him along with 8 other teams?
Anyone else hear that?
I’m a big SC fan…but even I say “OH HELL NAW”!!! that foo is a puzzy!!
The only players I actually like coming out of SC would Woods and that one safety…thats it!
February 26th, 2013 at 9:03 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 8:59 pm
Just saw a picture of Barret Jones at the combine, and let’s say he looks like a young, gay Wayne Newton.
Also suffered a Lis Franc injury? No chance he will be ready for the beginning of camps, IMO.
Dude might be avail in the 3rd round.
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I wish he would be available in the 3rd round. He will go top of 2 latest. He played the last half of the season with a Lis Franc including playing center in the National Championship Game. And did an amazing job. Yet our guy couldn’t play with the same injury. For millions of dollars our guy could not play, yet Jones played for free. Think that doesn’t catch some GM’s eye?
February 26th, 2013 at 9:03 pm
I can t wait fo reggie to have a great draft and people in hear can eat crow.
February 26th, 2013 at 9:04 pm
331.Just Fire Baby Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 9:01 pm
Did you just change your mind? In the previous post you said that it didn’t sound appealing…
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Sorry, that was supposed to be the jist of my post.
Trading down 6-8 spots for a 2nd rounder? Not all that appealing.
Trading down a few spots for a 4th or 5th rounder? Not at all interested.
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Ah, ok. I get it.
Easy to miss context on the Interweb sometimes.
February 26th, 2013 at 9:06 pm
*be
February 26th, 2013 at 9:07 pm
When you factor in potential 3 team swaps with players thrown in, it gets a bit complex. We’re playing checkers, they’re playing chess. Math to algebra II or algebra I to calculus. They’re not neccessarily smarter, but hopefully thinking about every scenario 30-40 hours a week ’till draft day. And not just one guy, but many, many guys.
Won’t stop me from speculating, just saying…
February 26th, 2013 at 9:13 pm
Best case scenario for us would be if KC takes Joeckel. Somebody could want Fisher badly enough to try and get ahead of Philly.
It would have to be the right offer, but it would be nice to have the option.
February 26th, 2013 at 9:39 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 9:01 pm
Did you just change your mind? In the previous post you said that it didn’t sound appealing…
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Sorry, that was supposed to be the jist of my post.
Trading down 6-8 spots for a 2nd rounder? Not all that appealing.
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That depends on who we want to pick! If its a defensive flavor-of-the-week, I am all over it!
If we want Warmack, no thanx. I’d just pick him and not look back.
He could be gone.
Now if they want Geno, I’d be back all over it!
February 26th, 2013 at 9:43 pm
This is exactly right. Since there are no consensus one, two and three in this draft, and players seem to be shifting up and down every day, that is good news for the Raiders. + there are teams like St. Louis, or the Whiners that have a plethora of picks. If you are the Whiners would you not want to trade a couple of high lst rounders for a shot at Milliner or Moore or Werner? Makes sense to me.
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No kidding. Its still all just human nature. If you have extra picks, why not take the guess work out of it?
Look at what Atlanta gave up to pick a frigging WR!
February 26th, 2013 at 9:46 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
Just saw a picture of Barret Jones at the combine, and let’s say he looks like a young, gay Wayne Newton.
Also suffered a Lis Franc injury? No chance he will be ready for the beginning of camps, IMO.
Dude might be avail in the 3rd round.
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Because he looks like a young, gay Wayne Newton?
Remember National Lampoon’’s “Vacation” in Vegas?
I’d take him with the #3 if a young Beverly De’Angelo came with him.
February 26th, 2013 at 9:47 pm
I like we’re talking to holmgren. Always felt we need seasoned players cause the coaches can’t coach. Now Reggie is bein pure genius here cause he knows DA can’t coach and he (Reggie) can’t GM cause he’s got his hands full keepin his thumb on DA. So enter holmgren. Pure brilliant move by Reggiemac. I am impressed. Seasoned players and seasoned GMs. DA has a ways to go but holmgren should be able to boot him along.
February 26th, 2013 at 9:51 pm
RE: Holmgren. I say go for it!
February 26th, 2013 at 9:57 pm
I want to know who came up with the idea to float the Holmgren trial balloon. If it was Reggie, I am all in! If it was Davis, this means to me he might not be sold at all on Reggie and I see some major problems ahead yet.
Holmgren does have the coaching pedigree, obviously, but has not really accomplished anything since, well, the Seattle SB, right?
Cleveland is a grease fire right now… our two 8-8 seasons would be a god send to those fans.
February 26th, 2013 at 10:05 pm
Gdog Says:
If we want Warmack, no thanx. I’d just pick him and not look back.
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There’s a lot to be said for a high probability of never regretting your pick. Even #3 for a guard.
February 26th, 2013 at 10:07 pm
Geno has moved to the top of my draft board, the 2 players that were ahead of him are both LTs, which we don’t need.
Plus this will allow Reggie to trade both Palmer and Pryor and the rest of us won’t have to read your debates anymore.
February 26th, 2013 at 10:11 pm
Raiders will either have our franchise QB in Geno; or two elite OTs in Vehldeer & Joeckel/Fisher.
February 26th, 2013 at 10:14 pm
I think we will know by March 14th if Geno will be there at #3 overall; the date Kansas City trades with San Francisco or not.
February 26th, 2013 at 10:19 pm
We haven’t develop a talent since???
February 26th, 2013 at 10:23 pm
Lol
February 26th, 2013 at 11:04 pm
We’re going pass rusher at # 3 or someone else on d-line. They’ve said it publicly more than once and it makes sense.
I don’t think they’re talking to Palmer about restructuring in order to get him to a low contract so they can trade him and screw him over.
Good luck getting others to “restructure” in the future if they try and pull that crap. Tremendously bad form that wouldn’t go over well at all, despite how badly some here wanna see Palmer humiliated for not being the hero you wanted. So that makes Geno Smith highly unlikely for the Raiders.
You don’t draft Geno at 3 and have him sit on the bench in today’s day and age. You also don’t have a high paid veteran sit on the bench.
A trade down to drop a few spots…remain in the top 10 and still snag a #2 would be preferable if we can get it.
I think it’s possible.
February 26th, 2013 at 11:26 pm
SAY NO TO GENO!
…I say fairly often, as if Reggie reads this blog.
February 27th, 2013 at 1:57 am
Miller or Floyd !
February 27th, 2013 at 1:58 am
Millner *
February 27th, 2013 at 8:30 am
xraided Says:
February 26th, 2013 at 3:34 pm
I find it weird that Star’s heart condition comes up during Combine, but was NEVER mentioned before.
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simple. wanted to hold it back as long as possible so the zero’s wouldn’t fall off his guaranteed money. cats outa the bag now
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So totally not true. His Ejection Fraction was discovered to be 44-49%…normal is 50-75%..He showed no symptoms, He had no idea there was anything wrong nor did anyone else…This is the type of thing you discover during a routine health exam of your heart. Do you know what your Ejection Fraction is?
Didn’t think so…
February 27th, 2013 at 6:16 pm
Te’o is not worth a 1st round pick, but he’ll end up being a better LB than Slolando.
February 27th, 2013 at 6:18 pm
MikieG Says:
February 27th, 2013 at 8:30 am
So totally not true. His Ejection Fraction was discovered to be 44-49%…normal is 50-75%..He showed no symptoms, He had no idea there was anything wrong nor did anyone else…This is the type of thing you discover during a routine health exam of your heart. Do you know what your Ejection Fraction is?
Didn’t think so…
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BOOM HEADSHOT!
(It’s so nice to somebody post in here that actually knows what they are talking about (you). So many half drunk trailer trash dbags in here always spewing garbage like they think they know everything (them)).
February 27th, 2013 at 10:06 pm
Now that the Chiefs aquired Smith from the 49ers and the Jaguars have Gabbert, do we have any leverage with the 3rd pick? Is there anyone else that might want to trade with us in order to get Geno? If this is not the case, do we draft Geno and if so what happens to Palmer?
Raider on!
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