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Report: Raiders meeting with veteran DL

The Raiders reportedly are about to jump in the mix for the services of veteran defensive lineman Cullen Jenkins, which makes sense given Jenkins’ connection to Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie.
Jenkins was released by the Philadelphia Eagles last month rather than pay him a $5 million roster bonus. Ever since, Jenkins has been a hot commodity among teams interested in adding a versatile lineman.
Jenkins, 32, already has visited the New York Giants. He also has visits lined up with the Seattle Seahawks and 49ers, with the Raiders on the radar for Wednesday, according to NFL.com.
The Raiders figure to be in the market for at least one player capable of playing inside on the defensive line, with the departure of Richard Seymour, Desmond Bryant a prospective free agent and Tommy Kelly a potential salary cap casualty.
Jenkins played for the Packers from 2004-10 when McKenzie was part of that team’s front office. He bolted for the Eagles in 2011 and started all 32 games the past two seasons.

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  • eastoaklandraider

    just an idea sign jake long draft warmack then we have the rest of the draft to draft dline

  • inonewordraider

    didnt see the saints in the playoffs did you?

    lol at excusing ints to save face for unabashed palmer worship
    ________________
    colin cowherd who is almost as annoying as mistic made an interesting point today about how horrible the saints were before brees compared to the packers who were still good before gb. they both have a trophy. mistic to insinuate the saints didn’t make the playoffs because of brees interception is ridiculous, you’ll say anything to try to make your arguments sound legit.

    NEWS FLASH: MISTIC THINKS PALMER SHOULD BE CUT AND WE SHOULD START PRYOR.

    there everyone knows now so let’s discuss something else shall we, or is your brain not equipped to handle a different subject?

  • mcfadden20.

    Miss super dumb

  • RaiderDebo

    Seymour Bush Says:
    March 5th, 2013 at 3:42 pm
    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    March 5th, 2013 at 3:39 pm

    1960AutumnWind Says:
    March 5th, 2013 at 3:29 pm

    Mystic

    I am breaking a pledge here but where in that post did I say interections are OK? What I said is not all intereceptions are equal. Thowing deep into coverage on thrid and long from your own 40 is not the same as throwing a intereception in the redzone where you throw away a field goal. Some guys have different styles and you need to account for that
    ===================

    please breaking wind your killing me

    if the styl is throwing picks you will lose
    ========================================

    Didn’t Drew Brees lead the league in picks last year? I guess he is a loser?

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Well yeah, kinda. Last I checked, he was home for the playoffs.

  • The Beeech Diggity Dawg

    Uh Oh, looks like the Old Troll is getting worked up again. His Fruit of the Looms are in HUGE trouble

    Last time K-Rat tried to stir the racial pot he ruined a pair of overalls with an old troll mud slide

    Seriously Brahs, no one has ever taken blogging this seriously in the history of idiots

    HIP HOP N HOLLERIN’

  • rediaR

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    March 5th, 2013 at 3:45 pm
    if i am off base why are there so few black head coaches in pro and college football both now and historically?
    —————————
    How many do you think there should be?

  • mcfadden20.

    Campbell turned it over 16 times in 13 games on only 329 attempts average of 1 every 22 touches

    Carson Palmer 19 times in 14 games on 565 attempts , that’s an average of 1 every 30 attempts

    So there it is guys , Campbell is a turnover machine

  • inonewordraider

    KoolKell Says:
    March 5th, 2013 at 3:49 pm
    y are u constantly bringing up cam newton? he has nothing to do with the raiders, except he beat us in week 16. i don’t get it is there something i’m missing? are you an alabama fan? oregon? atlanta? New orleans? tampa? who gives a d@mn about cam newton
    ——————————–
    Because he’s a racist pos.
    __________
    cut it out, you know he brings up cam to upset mistic who is the one who always brings up cam and rgIII and russell wilson and kaepernick all of which, by the way, ARE NOT raider qb’s

  • NGRaiderfan

    387.1960AutumnWind Says:
    March 5th, 2013 at 3:45 pm
    he was pressured yes, but so does every qb. and u guys can say ur opinion all u want. but the stats actually show he wasn’t pressured that much. he needs to sit in there and make the throw.

    *******************************

    I think GDogs orginal point is Palmer was hurried way more than average meaning he was pressured more. YOu can be pressured but quickly release the ball and avoid hits and not get sacked. However if you try to throw into tight places (as opposed to just Tebow it) you will get picked more (especially with our volleyball playing WRs this year).

    =====================

    u can also get scared of getting hit, especially when u have been seriouslty injured before, and get rid of the ball well before u need to. and throwing it for 0 yds on a 3rd and 2 might as well be a sack. sack up, sit in the pocket, move around if u have to, and get the F-ing ball past the sticks. something pryor, for all his faults and deficiencies, did fairly well at in his first start. a 3rd down completion short of the line to gain might as well be an incompletion, unless u gain 10+ yards n it could have some bearing on field position. but 3rd 6-8 or less, u should at least try to get the first down. u guys saying he would sling it into traffic causing TO’s, naw he would throw to the guy 2 yds down field with a guy ready to tackle him short of the first down. very few of his picks came from trying to fit it into coverage. most of them came off os poorly thrown balls, misreads, or tipped balls (i will give it to him that some of his ints went off receivers hands first)

  • inonewordraider

    mcfadden20. Says:
    March 5th, 2013 at 3:57 pm
    Campbell turned it over 16 times in 13 games on only 329 attempts average of 1 every 22 touches

    Carson Palmer 19 times in 14 games on 565 attempts , that’s an average of 1 every 30 attempts

    So there it is guys , Campbell is a turnover machine
    ________
    been sick of the jc v cp debate, but gotta admit that puts alot of holes in the cp’s a turnover machine argument

  • raiderinparadise

    I waste my time here being a digital GM.

    All I can do it watch closely as FA hits and Draft.

    We will be as quiet as a mouse.

  • mcfadden20.

    How do you turn it over every 22 attempts whole checking down to ur RB all game long ?

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    inonewordraider Says:
    March 5th, 2013 at 3:54 pm

    didnt see the saints in the playoffs did you?

    lol at excusing ints to save face for unabashed palmer worship
    ________________

    mistic to insinuate the saints didn’t make the playoffs because of brees interception is ridiculous,

    ==============

    DID his 19 picks help the saints?

    help me out with this inoneturd

    comparing brees and palmer is laughable brees td to turn over compared to palmer isnt even worth posting

  • mcfadden20.

    While^***

  • RaiderDebo

    RediaR Says:
    March 5th, 2013 at 3:55 pm
    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    March 5th, 2013 at 3:45 pm
    if i am off base why are there so few black head coaches in pro and college football both now and historically?
    —————————
    How many do you think there should be?
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Who gives a sht about the number?? Point is that Hue should b in that mix based on MERIT! Questioning whether this is an issue of his race is 100% in bounds!

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    rediaR Says:
    March 5th, 2013 at 3:55 pm

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    March 5th, 2013 at 3:45 pm
    if i am off base why are there so few black head coaches in pro and college football both now and historically?
    —————————
    How many do you think there should be?

    ================

    are you suggesting some sort of quota?

    wow

  • mcfadden20.

    Ofcourse his 150 yards per game was def the sole reason we won 8 games lol

  • inonewordraider

    DID his 19 picks help the saints?

    help me out with this inoneturd

    comparing brees and palmer is laughable brees td to turn over compared to palmer isnt even worth posting
    ________
    i’m not comparing brees and cp? once again you imaging things, you on those bath salts? brees is a hall of fame qb, cp is average in my opinion

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    didnt see the saints in the playoffs did you?

    lol at excusing ints to save face for unabashed palmer worship
    ==========================================

    I completely agree with you that turnovers are the number one reason for wins and losses. The difference between you and I is if a ball bounces off a receivers hands into a defender, or if a receiver is not where he should be, or the left tackle completely whiffs causing the Q to qet whacked or stripped, I can’t blame the Q. And then when you are constantly in the bottom of the league in getting turnovers, the ones you make are that much more pronounced.

  • aig-raiders

    Actually, here is an article on the myth or truth of CP3 padding hist stats via garbage minutes. I like CP but I fear he is not clutch. You need to be clutch to win the big one in this league or go deep in the playoff.
    ———
    http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2013/3/1/4055048/how-many-of-oakland-raiders-carson-palmer-stats-came-in-garbage-time

    arson Palmer’s stats last season looked pretty impressive on paper. He threw for 4018 yards with 22 touchdowns and 14 interceptions. Those numbers put him in the top ten in passing yards and just above the average NFL starting QB overall. And yet the Raiders still had one of the worst offenses in the NFL with a 4-12 record to show for it.

    The conclusion many have come to is those yards from Carson Palmer were not all they cracked up to be. The term “garbage time” stats has been thrown around like Carson Palmer threw the ball around the yard last season. Typically it’s used as a way of saying those yards were easier to come by because there was nothing on the line.

    So, I thought it would be worthwhile to find out just how many of those Palmer’s yards were padding and how many really mattered.

    For this study, I must also point out that passing yards Palmer had after the Raiders were no longer in playoff contention still count. Just because at some point he was unable to get the Raiders in the playoffs doesn’t mean those stats were worthless. Garbage time is the time in a game when the stats are no longer meaningful toward the outcome of that particular game.

    We start from the beginning of the season and work out way through.

    Week 1 the Chargers went up by a score of 22-6 with 5:06 remaining in the fourth quarter. Carson Palmer immediately led the Raiders on a scoring drive, but it was too late. The Chargers were up by two scores at least and the drive took 4:12 off the clock which allowed the Chargers to kneel out the clock and end the game.

    Total stats for Palmer: 297 passing yards, 1 TD

    Garbage time stats: 64 yards passing, 1 TD

    Week 2 the Dolphins went up 35-13 with 5:18 remaining in the game. Anything after that was inconsequential.

    Total stats for Palmer: 373 yards passing, 1 TD, 1 int

    Garbage time stats: 53 yards passing, 1 int

    Week 4 this game was over by the end of the third quarter with the Broncos up 31-6. Anything after that was not going to change the Raiders’ fate.

    Total stats for Palmer: 202 yards passing

    Garbage time stats: 65 yards passing

    Week 6 was a close loss to the Falcons 23-20. Palmer threw a terrible interception returned for a touchdown with the Raiders in scoring position. He drove the team back to tie it and in the end the Falcons drove into field goal range and won it. So, though it was at least partially Palmer’s fault for the loss, this game never had a garbage time.

    Total stats for Palmer: 353 yards passing, 1 TD, 1 int

    Garbage time stats: None

    Week 9 the Raiders gave up 251 yards rushing to Doug Martin but the Raiders’ offense kept them in the game right up until the end. They were down 35-32 when Palmer threw an interception and the Bucs drove for a score to put the game away. But before you blame Palmer for the loss anyway, he is the reason the Raiders were about to get back in the game in the first place after being down by 18 points twice including early in the 4th quarter.

    Total stats for Palmer: 414 yards passing, 4 TD, 3 int

    Garbage time stats: 5 yards passing, 1 int

    Week 10 this game looked to be over shortly after halftime. The Ravens went up by a score of 34-10 on their first drive of the third quarter. Palmer made a valiant drive to score a touchdown on the following drive to make it 34-17. But that was as close as he would get. The Ravens answered with another touchdown and everything after that was window dressing.

    Total stats for Palmer: 368 yards passing, 2 TD’s, 1 int

    Garbage time stats: 106 yards passing

    Week 11 For the second straight week, the game was over before the end of the third quarter. The Saints went up 35-10 late in the third quarter and they went through the motions after that and cruise to a win.

    Total stats for Palmer: 312 yards passing, 2 TD’s, 2 int

    Garbage time stats: 120 yards passing, 1 TD

    Week 12 the Bengals raced out to a 21-0 lead in the first half but this game wasn’t officially in the books until early in the fourth quarter when they took a 27-10 lead. One might argue that there were garbage time yards before that but the Raiders did pull within two scores in the third quarter, down 24-10. Two scores in a quarter is very manageable. They just didn’t manage it.

    Total stats for Palmer: 146 yards passing, 1 TD, 1 int

    Garbage time stats: 49 yards passing

    Week 13 the 20-17 result made the Raiders’ loss to the Browns seem like a close game. But it wasn’t really that close. The Raiders were down 20-10 with 6:04 left on the clock but their drive took so long, it rendered the entire thing worthless. They scored the touchdown and kicked off down three points with :01 on the clock. You can definitely blame that one on the coaches but it still rendered Palmer’s stats on the drive meaningless.

    Total stats for Palmer: 351 yards passing, 2 TD’s, 1 int

    Garbage time stats: 102 yards, 1 TD

    Week 14 Midway through the third quarter, Carson Palmer fumbled the ball, the Broncos recovered and drove for a score to go up 26-7. Cruise control time.

    Total stats for Palmer: 273 yards passing, 2 TD’s, 1 int

    Garbage time stats: 125 yards passing, 1 TD

    The following week was a win over the Chiefs and Palmer’s final full game of the season. He would suffer a broken rib after just three passes in the week 16 matchup against the Carolina Panthers.

    His total stats in garbage time during 2012 were:

    689 yards passing, 6 TD’s, 2 int’s

    Which makes his adjusted total of stats that truly mattered:

    3329 passing yards, 16 TD’s, 12 int’s

    It’s kind of worthless to say where his new figure would rank among the other quarterbacks in the league because to do that is to assume those other quarterbacks never had any passing yards in garbage time. It’s like saying “What about all those drops by his receivers?” as if every quarterback isn’t subject to their receivers dropping passes.

    The purpose of this is not to say Palmer deserves no credit for those passes he made in garbage time or to blame him for the fact the Raiders were subject to garbage time at all. It is simply to put an actual number on something many have pondered when deciding how much of Palmer’s 4018 passing yards, 22 TD’s, and 14 interceptions came during times when the game was still on the line.

  • rediaR

    RaiderDebo Says:
    March 5th, 2013 at 4:01 pm
    RediaR Says:
    March 5th, 2013 at 3:55 pm
    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    March 5th, 2013 at 3:45 pm
    if i am off base why are there so few black head coaches in pro and college football both now and historically?
    —————————
    How many do you think there should be?
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Who gives a sht about the number?? Point is that Hue should b in that mix based on MERIT! Questioning whether this is an issue of his race is 100% in bounds!
    —————————
    Yeah totally, Reggie is practically a clansman.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    inonewordraider Says:
    March 5th, 2013 at 4:02 pm

    DID his 19 picks help the saints?

    help me out with this inoneturd

    comparing brees and palmer is laughable brees td to turn over compared to palmer isnt even worth posting
    ________
    i’m not comparing brees and cp? once again you imaging things, you on those bath salts? brees is a hall of fame qb, cp is average in my opinion

    ====================

    good because my post was in response to someone that tried to compare the two

  • NGRaiderfan

    410.inonewordraider Says:
    March 5th, 2013 at 3:59 pm
    mcfadden20. Says:
    March 5th, 2013 at 3:57 pm
    Campbell turned it over 16 times in 13 games on only 329 attempts average of 1 every 22 touches

    Carson Palmer 19 times in 14 games on 565 attempts , that’s an average of 1 every 30 attempts

    So there it is guys , Campbell is a turnover machine
    ________
    been sick of the jc v cp debate, but gotta admit that puts alot of holes in the cp’s a turnover machine argument

    ==============

    u forgot to add in the 2011 season for palmer, that counted u know… if you’re going to point out JC’s worst season as a raider u gotta do the same for palmer. u cant just try and make it so the stats favor your guy. at least acknowledge JC in 2011 JC threw 165 passes and only had 4 INTs, thats 1 every 41 passes. but of course u would leave that out because it doesn’t help your argument. nor does carson palmer throwing 13 ints in 307 attempts in 2011, 1 ever 23 attempts(i didn’t include the KC game, which would have made it 16 ints in 328 attempts; 1 every 20 attempts). let’s at least get all of the facts out there.

  • mcfadden20.

    Keep hating

  • rediaR

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    March 5th, 2013 at 4:01 pm
    rediaR Says:
    March 5th, 2013 at 3:55 pm

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    March 5th, 2013 at 3:45 pm
    if i am off base why are there so few black head coaches in pro and college football both now and historically?
    —————————
    How many do you think there should be?

    ================

    are you suggesting some sort of quota?

    wow
    ———————–
    You were actually. I’m not.

    There can be a higher/lower percentage of certain races (compared to percentage of entire population) involved in something without it all being about racists holding people back.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    NGRaiderfan Says:
    March 5th, 2013 at 4:07 pm

    410.inonewordraider Says:
    March 5th, 2013 at 3:59 pm
    mcfadden20. Says:
    March 5th, 2013 at 3:57 pm
    Campbell turned it over 16 times in 13 games on only 329 attempts average of 1 every 22 touches

    Carson Palmer 19 times in 14 games on 565 attempts , that’s an average of 1 every 30 attempts

    So there it is guys , Campbell is a turnover machine
    ________
    been sick of the jc v cp debate, but gotta admit that puts alot of holes in the cp’s a turnover machine argument

    ==============

    u forgot to add in the 2011 season for palmer, that counted u know… if you’re going to point out JC’s worst season as a raider u gotta do the same for palmer. u cant just try and make it so the stats favor your guy. at least acknowledge JC in 2011 JC threw 165 passes and only had 4 INTs, thats 1 every 41 passes. but of course u would leave that out because it doesn’t help your argument. nor does carson palmer throwing 13 ints in 307 attempts in 2011, 1 ever 23 attempts(i didn’t include the KC game, which would have made it 16 ints in 328 attempts; 1 every 20 attempts). let’s at least get all of the facts out there.
    ================

    hats off NGR,

    damn your good

  • DutchRaider77

    @aig-raiders

    Arson Palmer? Cause he lights $hip up?

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    GRaiderfan Says:
    March 5th, 2013 at 4:07 pm

    u forgot to add in the 2011 season for palmer, that counted u know… if you’re going to point out JC’s worst season as a raider u gotta do the same for palmer.
    ==========================================

    Palmers lst two games as a Raider he threw a total of six picks. The lst game Jackson threw him out there even tho he had basically no practice time with the team. He was NOT supposed to play that game. The second game was another one where he had very limited practice time. After that, especially at the end Palmer played extremely well. I would think you have to discount throwing a guy out there with no practice time.

  • mcfadden20.

    Those short seasons don’t count , coming to a team midseason , you cnt get on the same page like u can get if you had the preseason n Ota and training and etc , JC basically played 6 games in 11 so it doesn’t matter

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    rediaR Says:
    March 5th, 2013 at 4:10 pm

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    March 5th, 2013 at 4:01 pm
    rediaR Says:
    March 5th, 2013 at 3:55 pm

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    March 5th, 2013 at 3:45 pm
    if i am off base why are there so few black head coaches in pro and college football both now and historically?
    —————————
    How many do you think there should be?

    ================

    are you suggesting some sort of quota?

    wow
    ———————–
    You were actually. I’m not.

    There can be a higher/lower percentage of certain races (compared to percentage of entire population) involved in something without it all being about racists holding people back.
    ===========

    no it should be based on coaching talent and clearly black people are being screwed fro both hc and coordinator jobs college and pro

    even if hu jack isnt considered hc material you mean a coordinator that post 26 points per game cant get a gig?

    while knapp gets try you after try out?

    that dog wont hunt and im not buying it

  • mcfadden20.

    I was comparing their full seasons so JC turne it over every 22 attemps in 10 with beast running game

    Palmer every 30 attempts with no running game , which mean Ds knew it was always going to be a pass pass pass

  • mcfadden20.

    even if hu jack isnt considered hc material you mean a coordinator that post 26 points per game cant get a gig?

    You skew numbers too much to favor ur side 22 PpG not 26

  • rediaR

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    March 5th, 2013 at 4:13 pm
    rediaR Says:
    March 5th, 2013 at 4:10 pm

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    March 5th, 2013 at 4:01 pm
    rediaR Says:
    March 5th, 2013 at 3:55 pm

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    March 5th, 2013 at 3:45 pm
    if i am off base why are there so few black head coaches in pro and college football both now and historically?
    —————————
    How many do you think there should be?

    ================

    are you suggesting some sort of quota?

    wow
    ———————–
    You were actually. I’m not.

    There can be a higher/lower percentage of certain races (compared to percentage of entire population) involved in something without it all being about racists holding people back.
    ===========

    no it should be based on coaching talent and clearly black people are being screwed fro both hc and coordinator jobs college and pro

    even if hu jack isnt considered hc material you mean a coordinator that post 26 points per game cant get a gig?

    while knapp gets try you after try out?

    that dog wont hunt and im not buying it
    —————————–
    There, now you have arguments that can make sense.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    March 5th, 2013 at 4:11 pm

    GRaiderfan Says:
    March 5th, 2013 at 4:07 pm

    u forgot to add in the 2011 season for palmer, that counted u know… if you’re going to point out JC’s worst season as a raider u gotta do the same for palmer.
    ==========================================

    The lst game Jackson threw him out there even tho he had basically no practice time with the team.

    ==================

    yet you dont afford pryor the same consideration?

    even though pryor out performed palmer in his first start as compared to carson first start as a raider.

    pryor 3 tds 1 turn over 46%

    palmer 0 tds 3 picks 38%

    your on bush…this should be fun

  • mcfadden20.

    There are just more Power blocking guys than ZBS guys that’s why Knapp keep getting this OC gigs

  • 1960AutumnWind

    AIG-Raiders

    That was an interesting post. There was a lot less garbage time than I thought there would be.

  • Raider E

    Pisstick

  • mcfadden20.

    Pryors first start came after he was with the team 2 full years , that’s 2 otas, 2 mini camps 2 full training camps 2 full preseason a and 2 years of getting with guys n learning the playbook

    Palmers first start came after being on the team just 5 days

  • NGRaiderfan

    428.Seymour Bush Says:
    March 5th, 2013 at 4:11 pm
    GRaiderfan Says:
    March 5th, 2013 at 4:07 pm

    u forgot to add in the 2011 season for palmer, that counted u know… if you’re going to point out JC’s worst season as a raider u gotta do the same for palmer.
    ==========================================

    Palmers lst two games as a Raider he threw a total of six picks. The lst game Jackson threw him out there even tho he had basically no practice time with the team. He was NOT supposed to play that game. The second game was another one where he had very limited practice time. After that, especially at the end Palmer played extremely well. I would think you have to discount throwing a guy out there with no practice time.

    ==========

    wait a second…. i just actually checked the stats on campbells 2010 season…he only had 8 ints and 4 fumbles that he didn’t recover. i don’t even know an OLineman could have covered the other ones. how in the world did u get 16 turnovers. by my count, the most he could have had was 12, and thats not even for sure.. I really need to know where u guys get your stats from. more and more i’m thinking u guys just make stuff up. If i’m wrong i’d like to see it. here is where my info came from:

    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CampJa00.htm

    it shows JC in 2010 with 8 ints and 9 fumbles, 5 fumble recoveries.

  • xraided

    mcfadden20. Says:
    March 5th, 2013 at 4:14 pm
    I was comparing their full seasons so JC turne it over every 22 attemps in 10 with beast running game

    Palmer every 30 attempts with no running game , which mean Ds knew it was always going to be a pass pass pass

    __________________

    you can’t bring up FACTS to these guys … they say they’re excuses .. we are talking tennis afterall, not football. 1on1 sport.

  • mcfadden20.

    Actual garbage time stat padding was when Pryor started n chargers holding comfortable 24-7 lead , n scored t TDs with less than 6 mins to go

  • Raider E

    Why did Reggie fire a soul brotha and replace him with whitey, Piss-stick?

    Betcha don’t like Reggie much, do ya?

  • inonewordraider

    no it should be based on coaching talent and clearly black people are being screwed fro both hc and coordinator jobs college and pro

    even if hu jack isnt considered hc material you mean a coordinator that post 26 points per game cant get a gig?

    while knapp gets try you after try out?

    that dog wont hunt and im not buying it
    ___________
    probably don’t think black men smart enough to do it, some probably still think black qb’s aren’t smart enough, on second thought for one of very few times i agree but it’s stupid. even if i hated whitey, if i there was a good white salesman that was ethical i’d hire him in a second, business is business

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    mcfadden20. Says:
    March 5th, 2013 at 4:21 pm

    Pryors first start came after he was with the team 2 full years , that’s 2 otas, 2 mini camps 2 full training camps 2 full preseason a and 2 years of getting with guys n learning the playbook

    Palmers first start came after being on the team just 5 days
    ================

    wrong he was suspended was barred from alameda

    this year was his first full season but he didnt practice until he ran scout in week 14

    he didnt run our offense until week 17 half the reps in practice

    pryor first start far far better than palmers in raider land

  • NGRaiderfan

    438.mcfadden20. Says:
    March 5th, 2013 at 4:21 pm
    Pryors first start came after he was with the team 2 full years , that’s 2 otas, 2 mini camps 2 full training camps 2 full preseason a and 2 years of getting with guys n learning the playbook

    Palmers first start came after being on the team just 5 days

    ==============

    actually pryor was suspended 6 games so he couldnt do anything withthe teams until week 7 of last season, and then he was inactive and even said he never talked to hue jackson all season. n this year he was 3rd string and if u know anything about football u kno that 3rd string qbs dont get reps in practice. and 2 years to learn the playbook where are u from do u even follow the raiders they got a new OC this year. new OC = new playbook.

    that still doesn’t explain palmer throwing for under 50% in his 5th start on the team. especially when he had hue jax as his coordinator before. I don’t even talk about palmers first game against the chiefs, that doesn’t even count to me. i’ll even let him slide against the broncos. at some point as a qb u gotta start making winning football plays, clutch football plays, and winning football games.

  • DJ Johnny

    I was a big Hue Jack supporter and for that I was the recipient of a ton of crap.

    I gotta think the reason he doesn’t have an oc gig at least is because he’s perceived as a back stabber or trouble maker.

    I was the few apparently that thought his passion..love for Al and the Raiders etc. was genuine. Alot of guys said it was just an act…I don’t believe that.

    Of course he wanted to promote himself…that’s what guys with alot of confidence do; they think THEY are the best man for the job. I don’t see that as a negative quality…apparently it’s too over the top for most teams.

  • mcfadden20.

    I got my stats from espn , 8 ints and 9 fumbles

  • 1960AutumnWind

    mcfadden20. Says:
    March 5th, 2013 at 4:21 pm
    Pryors first start came after he was with the team 2 full years , that’s 2 otas, 2 mini camps 2 full training camps 2 full preseason a and 2 years of getting with guys n learning the playbook

    Palmers first start came after being on the team just 5 days
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    McFadden

    Stop it, those are just excuses. YOu need to just compare them sriaght up! :-)

    Seriously, it is a waste of time trying to talk sense to him. Take the Pledge!

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    mac tea bags busted lying as usual

    he has a pathological obsession

  • mcfadden20.

    Okay fair enough he was suspended half year , 1.5 years on team is still better than 5 days with the team