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Breaking news: Raiders restructure Branch’s contract

By Steve Corkran
Thursday, March 7th, 2013 at 2:23 pm in Oakland Raiders.

The Raiders freed up $5 million or so in salary cap room by restructuring the contract of starting strong safety Tyvon Branch on Thursday, according to a person familiar with the situation.
The Raiders reduced Branch’s base salary from $6 million to $715,000 for 2013. In exchange, the Raiders tacked on two seasons to the four-year contract Branch signed last season.
Branch still is in line to earn $6 million in 2013, in large part because of a $3.5 million roster bonus the Raiders honored. The saving comes in the form of reducing Branch’s cap figure from $10.9 million to approximately $6 million.
Branch’s salaries for 2014 and 2015 remain unchanged. However, he now is slated to earn $6.5 million in 2016 and ’17.
Branch was the Raiders franchise-tag player last season. The long-term contract he ultimately signed superseded the franchise-tag designation and ensured the Raiders keeping Branch in the fold for the next several seasons.
The Raiders now are more than $6 million under the cap, giving them some much-needed ammunition to re-sign some of their own prospective free agents, as well as some from other teams that are about to hit the open market Tuesday.
Earlier this week, the Raiders freed up more than $2 million by restructuring the contract of right guard Mike Brisiel.
Several other players are being targeted for restructured deals, as well, including quarterback Carson Palmer, defensive tackle Tommy Kelly, free safety Michael Huff and wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey.

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  • Beeech Dawg Worshipper

    Hey dorks and various blog goobs.

    The Beeech Dawg sent me here to tell you all he wishes he could be here himself, but he’s busy bustin on 3 wasted Laotian strippers while crusing in his catamarran near Diego.

    Speaking of poop, prior to the aforementioned stripper banging he laid down the deuce of a lifetime on the deck. Talk about batten down the hatches.

    Stephen A Smith was on the boat too and after seeing the massive turd he exclaimed “Clearly…you’re gonna need a bigger boat”.

    They all laughed after that, but it reminded the Dawg that he was hungry for shark meat so he jumped off the boat and beat a great white to death with his ding dong.

    AHOY ME MATIES

  • DKnight007

    Beeech Dawg Worshipper Says:
    March 11th, 2013 at 9:25 pm

    Hey dorks and various blog goobs.

    The Beeech Dawg sent me here to tell you all he wishes he could be here himself, but he’s busy bustin on 3 wasted Laotian strippers while crusing in his catamarran near Diego.

    Speaking of poop, prior to the aforementioned stripper banging he laid down the deuce of a lifetime on the deck. Talk about batten down the hatches.

    Stephen A Smith was on the boat too and after seeing the massive turd he exclaimed “Clearly…you’re gonna need a bigger boat”.

    They all laughed after that, but it reminded the Dawg that he was hungry for shark meat so he jumped off the boat and beat a great white to death with his ding dong.

    AHOY ME MATIES

    ^^^^^^^^^^
    Nice!Is one of those Laotian strippers named Karen?

    Lol!

  • 00tt00

    I say damaged goods after looking over PFFs game by game metrics. He had three positive rated games over a 16 game season with us. With Atlanta, he started off with SIX in the first 8 games… and then not a single one after that.
    ==============
    atlanta????????????

  • DKnight007

    RaiderDebo Says:
    March 11th, 2013 at 9:24 pm

    DKnight007 Says:
    March 11th, 2013 at 9:12 pm
    Well if CP doesn’t take restructure or pay cut, then I hope McK can trade him for at least a 3rd Rounder. Don’t cut him and let him and not get anything in return.

    That would be god awful.

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Why is that?

    ^^^^^^^^
    Letting a very serviceable QB go and saving how much instead of trying to get something in return and then riding the season on TP with Greg Olsen as his OC?

    If a mediocre Alex Smith can bag the Niners two 2nd rounders, then CP can’t net at least a 3rd rounder in a QB needy league?

  • J Hill

    Head Coaches don’t make trades, GMs and owners do.

  • Beeech Dawg Blowhole Surfer

    Hey all dorks out there

    I’m new here, first time poster. I hear this is the place to be for Raider news and chat.

    Also hear you can post in here to see who can drop the biggest duece. Not to get mixed up in all that, but I put one down that was so big me and my boyz needed a shopping cart to haul it off. Talk about a basket full, whoa!

    Keep it realz goobz.

  • Beeech Dawg Worshipper

    Yo DKnight, Ironically one of the strippers was named not “Karen” but “Daren”. After it was discovered this chick had a ….well you know… she was pawned off on Stephen A.

    After dancing for awhile, Stephen A and “Daren” went down to the bilge to watch Laker highlights.

  • Dakota

    Draft McFadden!

  • realtruraider

    Had a dream a few nights ago I was the GM or something in the Raiders warroom on draft day and somehow we got to the bottom of the 1st rd or it was early 2nd, it seemed like we already made a pick earlier in the 1st rd and this was our second pick, anyway there were 2 players that we had ranked head and shoulders above the rest and we were surprised they were still on board, they were DE Werner and WR Tavon Austin, I was bangin the Table for Austin and everybody else wanted Werner.

    I don’t know who we ended up drafting, the funny thing is WR is the last pos I thnk we should draft and Im all about defense, I haven’t even done any research on WRs or watched any tape, schit seemed so fkin real though.

  • Gdog

    00tt00 Says:
    March 11th, 2013 at 9:28 pm

    I say damaged goods after looking over PFFs game by game metrics. He had three positive rated games over a 16 game season with us. With Atlanta, he started off with SIX in the first 8 games… and then not a single one after that.
    ==============
    atlanta????????????

    >>>

    lol.. ooops. Houston of course. My bad… I am guessing his knees are shot though.

  • RaiderDebo

    DKnight007 Says:
    March 11th, 2013 at 9:30 pm
    RaiderDebo Says:
    March 11th, 2013 at 9:24 pm

    DKnight007 Says:
    March 11th, 2013 at 9:12 pm
    Well if CP doesn’t take restructure or pay cut, then I hope McK can trade him for at least a 3rd Rounder. Don’t cut him and let him and not get anything in return.

    That would be god awful.

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Why is that?

    ^^^^^^^^
    Letting a very serviceable QB go and saving how much instead of trying to get something in return and then riding the season on TP with Greg Olsen as his OC?

    If a mediocre Alex Smith can bag the Niners two 2nd rounders, then CP can’t net at least a 3rd rounder in a QB needy league?

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    “Very serviceable” is being generous. Teams are looking for QBs that can win them games. Smith has done that the last couple of years. You know the book on Palmer. This isn’t about cap space. Reggie knows we can’t win with him. So does everyone else. Why would any team give up draft choices for QB that can win it games?

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    Sir RaiderDuck, OMS Says:
    March 11th, 2013 at 8:59 pm

    RAIDER NATION DRINKING GAME:

    If someone calls Dennis Allen a female name: 1 drink
    If someone calls Reggie “Mumbles”: 1 drink
    If someone pines for Hue: 1 sip
    If someone compares Andrew Luck to Tony Bergstrom: Finish your drink
    If someone claims they could beat DA up: Laugh for 5 minutes, then take 2 drinks
    If someone claims the minority partners could vote Mark out: 2 1/2 drinks

    Anybody care to add?
    ==============================

    If someone says Terrel Pryor is most dynamic QB in league history: 3 drinks

    If someone says Darren McFadden is the best player on the team: chug, chug, chug

    If someone claims Jon Gruden is coming back: dude gets empty booze bottle bounced off his dome

  • Gdog

    DKnight007 Says:
    March 11th, 2013 at 9:24 pm

    00tt00 Says:
    March 11th, 2013 at 9:23 pm

    I would like to see us get loadholt or andre smith knowing we need a RT and should not take one at#3…..then OL will be done with the exception of upgrading at guard which should be easy

    ^^^^^^^^
    Agreed!

    >>>

    Loadholt and Warmack…

  • Dakota

    Hmmmm bikini airways or life on top?

  • Al_is_theraiders

    the word is getting out there amongst the players….reggie will not pay up…DA will doghouse you if you font wear a suit to dinner…no one wants to come here now.

  • realtruraider

    if we don’t trade back, The 3 players I would consider at #3 are Jarvis Jones, Milliner, and Floyd, would also be fine with Star if health checks out, These seem lke the players that will come in and make an impact day one, I guess Im looking at production instead of potential with a pick as high as #3, if we can trade down I would be more than fine with players like Jordan, Mingo, Werner, Ansah etc…………

  • Gdog

    RaiderDebo Says:
    March 11th, 2013 at 9:49 pm

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    “Very serviceable” is being generous. Teams are looking for QBs that can win them games

    >>>>

    4592 yards and 25 TDs (CP’s extrapolated stats) usually wins a lot of games in the NFL.

    Or do you disagree? If so, why? Dazzle us for once!

  • ian85

    Gdog Says:
    March 11th, 2013 at 10:05 pm
    RaiderDebo Says:
    March 11th, 2013 at 9:49 pm

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    “Very serviceable” is being generous. Teams are looking for QBs that can win them games

    >>>>

    4592 yards and 25 TDs (CP’s extrapolated stats) usually wins a lot of games in the NFL.

    Or do you disagree? If so, why? Dazzle us for once!
    ———————–
    Debo ur a fcking idiot

  • DKnight007

    RaiderDebo Says:
    March 11th, 2013 at 9:49 pm

    DKnight007 Says:
    March 11th, 2013 at 9:30 pm
    RaiderDebo Says:
    March 11th, 2013 at 9:24 pm

    DKnight007 Says:
    March 11th, 2013 at 9:12 pm
    Well if CP doesn’t take restructure or pay cut, then I hope McK can trade him for at least a 3rd Rounder. Don’t cut him and let him and not get anything in return.

    That would be god awful.

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Why is that?

    ^^^^^^^^
    Letting a very serviceable QB go and saving how much instead of trying to get something in return and then riding the season on TP with Greg Olsen as his OC?

    If a mediocre Alex Smith can bag the Niners two 2nd rounders, then CP can’t net at least a 3rd rounder in a QB needy league?

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    “Very serviceable” is being generous. Teams are looking for QBs that can win them games. Smith has done that the last couple of years. You know the book on Palmer. This isn’t about cap space. Reggie knows we can’t win with him. So does everyone else. Why would any team give up draft choices for QB that can win it games?

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Huh? Uhh…if CP had a defense and running game behind him, he will win plenty of games like that turd Alex Smith.

  • hendu

    Fellas, drafting at #3 is nerve wrecking, consider Gallery, Jamarcus, Dudley, all top of the first round…Trade back,Reggie, get more DLine and Corners, OL, Qb next year…Palmer stays… see what happens..

  • Gdog

    After a quick scan of the QB’s even capable of throwing 4000k in one season (Montana never even did it!) I would guess the average win total to be around 11 wins.

    If I get some time I might do the research tomorrow… this is my off season.

  • hendu

    DKnight007,put the team around Palmer, couldnt agree more..

  • DKnight007

    EJ Manuel is rising up draft boards now. Figured..

  • DKnight007

    I would love to see WR Tayvon Austin on this Raider team.

    That kid is going to be good pro. He is dynamite.

  • hendu

    Anyone else concerned the Raiders cant afford to stay at #3…

  • 00tt00

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    March 11th, 2013 at 9:58 pm
    the word is getting out there amongst the players….reggie will not pay up…DA will doghouse you if you font wear a suit to dinner…no one wants to come here now.
    ============================
    I do indeed agree about the perception of reggie being cheap…….combine that with DA being unqualified and you will not get any early visits in FA….but that being said after all the good players gone the vaerage players will come beatig down the door because it will be the only place in the league with starting positions available

  • 00tt00

    Very serviceable” is being generous. Teams are looking for QBs that can win them games. Smith has done that the last couple of years. You know the book on Palmer. This isn’t about cap space. Reggie knows we can’t win with him. So does everyone else. Why would any team give up draft choices for QB that can win it games?
    ==============================================
    do you have any idea that their are 50+ players on a team…….this isnt a one-on-one game……..how many times did smith have to score 35 points just to be in the game at the end

  • 00tt00

    Hendu Says:
    March 11th, 2013 at 10:32 pm
    Anyone else concerned the Raiders cant afford to stay at #3…
    =================
    rookie salary cap

  • Al_is_theraiders

    the problem is average players get you average results…avg will get this staff fired.

  • JB

    A very sad commentary: After reviewing the NFL FA tracker, not a single FA is shown with interest by the Raiders. See:

    http://www.nfl.com/freeagency?campaign=Twitter_freeagency

    I guess someone earlier was correct when they said Reggie will pay his full attention to the Green Bay dumpster.I would have loved to have seen Jennings join the Raiders. we surely would have adequate cash & cap space if we:

    • cut Kelly
    • cut McCheese
    • cut Lechler
    • cut Seymour
    • cut DHB
    • cut Brisel
    • cut Carlisle
    • renegotiate Palmer
    • renegotiate DMac

    Those transactions would result in a BIG head-start on rebuilding & a bunch of cash for some talented “football” players.

  • 00tt00

    DKnight007 Says:
    March 11th, 2013 at 10:32 pm
    I would love to see WR Tayvon Austin on this Raider team.

    That kid is going to be good pro. He is dynamite.
    ====================
    agree……I have him going to the vikes

  • Gdog

    Brees had two 7-9 seasons with 4000+, (NO defenses stunk in 07′ and 12′ too (26th and 32nd))

    Farve never was lower than 8-8 with 4000+

    Marino had one 6-10 (defense stunk in 1988 (26th)) otherwise was usually in over ten wins with 4000+

    Fouts had three seasons over 4000+ averaged 11 wins.

    Manning had one 6-10 year over 4000+ (defense stunk in 2001 (29th)) everything else around 12 wins…

    Brady broke the bank in wins with 4000+

    What other QB’s am I even missing that threw 4000+??

  • Al_is_theraiders

    the raiders have never shot for average….the thought of it makes me want to throw up….

  • 00tt00

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    March 11th, 2013 at 10:39 pm
    the problem is average players get you average results…avg will get this staff fired.
    ==========================

    best news I heard all day

  • RaiderDebo

    Gdog Says:
    March 11th, 2013 at 10:05 pm
    RaiderDebo Says:
    March 11th, 2013 at 9:49 pm

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    “Very serviceable” is being generous. Teams are looking for QBs that can win them games

    >>>>

    4592 yards and 25 TDs (CP’s extrapolated stats) usually wins a lot of games in the NFL.

    Or do you disagree? If so, why? Dazzle us for once!

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    The Palmer Brigade has been reduced to “extrapolated stats” now??? C’mon, please tell me you’re joking. “Usually wins a lot of games”? So what? Have you followed CP’s career? Does he usually “win a lot of games”??

  • Al_is_theraiders

    i agree they need to be fired…

  • 00tt00

    Rank Player (age), + – HOFer, Bold – Active Yds Year Teams
    1. Drew Brees (32) 5,476 2011 NOR
    2. Tom Brady (34) 5,235 2011 NWE
    3. Drew Brees (33) 5,177 2012 NOR
    4. Dan Marino+ (23) 5,084 1984 MIA
    5. Drew Brees (29) 5,069 2008 NOR
    6. Matthew Stafford (23) 5,038 2011 DET
    7. Matthew Stafford (24) 4,967 2012 DET
    8. Eli Manning (30) 4,933 2011 NYG
    9. Tony Romo (32) 4,903 2012 DAL
    10. Kurt Warner (30) 4,830 2001 STL
    11. Tom Brady (35) 4,827 2012 NWE
    12. Tom Brady (30) 4,806 2007 NWE
    13. Dan Fouts+ (30) 4,802 1981 SDG
    14. Matt Schaub (28) 4,770 2009 HOU
    15. Dan Marino+ (25) 4,746 1986 MIA
    16. Matt Ryan (27) 4,719 2012 ATL
    17. Daunte Culpepper (27) 4,717 2004 MIN
    18. Dan Fouts+ (29) 4,715 1980 SDG
    19. Philip Rivers (29) 4,710 2010 SDG
    20. Peyton Manning (34) 4,700 2010 IND
    21. Warren Moon+ (35) 4,690 1991 HOU
    22. Rich Gannon (37) 4,689 2002 OAK
    Warren Moon+ (34) 4,689 1990 HOU
    24. Peyton Manning (36) 4,659 2012 DEN
    25. Aaron Rodgers (28) 4,643 2011 GNB
    26. Philip Rivers (30) 4,624 2011 SDG
    27. Drew Brees (31) 4,620 2010 NOR
    28. Neil Lomax (25) 4,614 1984 STL
    29. Trent Green (34) 4,591 2004 KAN
    30. Kurt Warner (37) 4,583 2008 ARI
    31. Peyton Manning (28) 4,557 2004 IND
    32. Drew Bledsoe (22) 4,555 1994 NWE
    33. Jay Cutler (25) 4,526 2008 DEN
    34. Peyton Manning (33) 4,500 2009 IND
    35. Tony Romo (29) 4,483 2009 DAL
    36. Lynn Dickey (34) 4,458 1983 GNB
    37. Dan Marino+ (33) 4,453 1994 MIA
    38. Steve Beuerlein (34) 4,436 1999 CAR
    39. Aaron Rodgers (26) 4,434 2009 GNB
    Dan Marino+ (27) 4,434 1988 MIA
    41. Drew Brees (28) 4,423 2007 NOR
    42. Drew Brees (27) 4,418 2006 NOR
    43. Brett Favre (26) 4,413 1995 GNB
    Peyton Manning (24) 4,413 2000 IND
    45. Tom Brady (32) 4,398 2009 NWE
    46. Peyton Manning (30) 4,397 2006 IND
    47. Drew Brees (30) 4,388 2009 NOR
    48. Andrew Luck (23) 4,374 2012 IND
    49. Matt Schaub (29) 4,370 2010 HOU
    50. Mark Brunell (26) 4,367 1996 JAX
    51. Drew Bledsoe (30) 4,359 2002 BUF
    52. Kurt Warner (28) 4,353 1999 STL
    53. Bill Kenney (28) 4,348 1983 KAN
    54. Scott Mitchell (27) 4,338 1995 DET
    55. Ben Roethlisberger (27) 4,328 2009 PIT
    56. Don Majkowski (25) 4,318 1989 GNB
    57. Jim Everett (26) 4,310 1989 RAM
    58. Marc Bulger (29) 4,301 2006 STL
    59. Aaron Rodgers (29) 4,295 2012 GNB
    60. Jeff Garcia (30) 4,278 2000 SFO
    61. Peyton Manning (27) 4,267 2003 IND
    62. Warren Moon+ (38) 4,264 1994 MIN
    63. Philip Rivers (28) 4,254 2009 SDG
    64. Warren Moon+ (39) 4,228 1995 MIN
    65. Brett Favre (29) 4,212 1998 GNB
    66. Tony Romo (27) 4,211 2007 DAL
    67. Jon Kitna (34) 4,208 2006 DET
    68. Brett Favre (40) 4,202 2009 MIN
    69. Peyton Manning (26) 4,200 2002 IND
    70. Tony Romo (31) 4,184 2011 DAL
    71. Matt Ryan (26) 4,177 2011 ATL
    Vinny Testaverde (33) 4,177 1996 BAL
    73. Steve Young+ (37) 4,170 1998 SFO
    74. Elvis Grbac (30) 4,169 2000 KAN
    75. Brett Favre (38) 4,155 2007 GNB
    76. Jeff George (28) 4,143 1995 ATL
    77. Dan Marino+ (24) 4,137 1985 MIA
    78. Peyton Manning (23) 4,135 1999 IND
    79. Brian Sipe (31) 4,132 1980 CLE
    80. Carson Palmer (28) 4,131 2007 CIN
    Peyton Manning (25) 4,131 2001 IND
    82. Dan Marino+ (31) 4,116 1992 MIA
    83. Tom Brady (28) 4,110 2005 NWE
    84. Jay Schroeder (25) 4,109 1986 WAS
    85. Brett Favre (30) 4,091 1999 GNB
    86. Jake Plummer (30) 4,089 2004 DEN
    87. Brett Favre (35) 4,088 2004 GNB
    88. Drew Bledsoe (24) 4,086 1996 NWE
    89. Dan Fouts+ (28) 4,082 1979 SDG
    90. Ben Roethlisberger (29) 4,077 2011 PIT
    91. Kerry Collins (30) 4,073 2002 NYG
    92. Jon Kitna (35) 4,068 2007 DET
    93. Josh Freeman (24) 4,065 2012 TAM
    94. Cam Newton (22) 4,051 2011 CAR
    95. Phil Simms (30) 4,044 1984 NYG
    96. Peyton Manning (31) 4,040 2007 IND
    97. Trent Green (33) 4,039 2003 KAN
    98. Aaron Rodgers (25) 4,038 2008 GNB
    99. Carson Palmer (27) 4,035 2006 CIN
    100. John Elway+ (33) 4,030 1993 DEN
    101. Steve Young+ (32) 4,023 1993 SFO
    102. Eli Manning (28) 4,021 2009 NYG
    103. Carson Palmer (33) 4,018 2012 OAK
    104. Trent Green (35) 4,014 2005 KAN
    105. Philip Rivers (27) 4,009 2008 SDG
    106. Matt Schaub (31) 4,008 2012 HOU
    107. Joe Namath+ (24) 4,007 1967 NYJ
    108. Brad Johnson (31) 4,005 1999 WAS
    109. Peyton Manning (32) 4,002 2008 IND
    Eli Manning (29) 4,002 2010 N

  • RaiderDebo

    Gdog Says:
    March 11th, 2013 at 10:41 pm
    Brees had two 7-9 seasons with 4000+, (NO defenses stunk in 07′ and 12′ too (26th and 32nd))

    Farve never was lower than 8-8 with 4000+

    Marino had one 6-10 (defense stunk in 1988 (26th)) otherwise was usually in over ten wins with 4000+

    Fouts had three seasons over 4000+ averaged 11 wins.

    Manning had one 6-10 year over 4000+ (defense stunk in 2001 (29th)) everything else around 12 wins…

    Brady broke the bank in wins with 4000+

    What other QB’s am I even missing that threw 4000+??

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Great points. More reasons that Palmer shouldn’t be mentioned in the same breath as Brees, Favre, Marino, Brady or Manning. Lol!

  • Gdog

    Bledsoe three times, never less than 8 wins

    Moon 4 times, never less than 8 wins.

    Warner 3 times, never less than 9 wins.

    Kelly never did it. Nor Aikman.

    I’m running out of QB’s….

  • hendu

    So OOttOO, SO 1-5 GET X, 6-10 y, etc. Raiders picking at #3 would be looking at what? Not sure the Raiders are enough under that it would matter, No? I will look into it tomorrow, 5 comes early,lol

  • Gdog

    RaiderDebo Says:
    March 11th, 2013 at 10:47 pm

    Gdog Says:
    March 11th, 2013 at 10:41 pm
    Brees had two 7-9 seasons with 4000+, (NO defenses stunk in 07′ and 12′ too (26th and 32nd))

    Farve never was lower than 8-8 with 4000+

    Marino had one 6-10 (defense stunk in 1988 (26th)) otherwise was usually in over ten wins with 4000+

    Fouts had three seasons over 4000+ averaged 11 wins.

    Manning had one 6-10 year over 4000+ (defense stunk in 2001 (29th)) everything else around 12 wins…

    Brady broke the bank in wins with 4000+

    What other QB’s am I even missing that threw 4000+??

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Great points. More reasons that Palmer shouldn’t be mentioned in the same breath as Brees, Favre, Marino, Brady or Manning. Lol!

    >>>>

    Statistically the average wins in a season for a 4000+ yard passer is prolly over 11 wins!

    And this “genius” wants to dump ours!

    For a dude that tossed up a whopping 155!!

  • RaiderDebo

    Gdog Says:
    March 11th, 2013 at 10:53 pm
    RaiderDebo Says:
    March 11th, 2013 at 10:47 pm

    Gdog Says:
    March 11th, 2013 at 10:41 pm
    Brees had two 7-9 seasons with 4000+, (NO defenses stunk in 07′ and 12′ too (26th and 32nd))

    Farve never was lower than 8-8 with 4000+

    Marino had one 6-10 (defense stunk in 1988 (26th)) otherwise was usually in over ten wins with 4000+

    Fouts had three seasons over 4000+ averaged 11 wins.

    Manning had one 6-10 year over 4000+ (defense stunk in 2001 (29th)) everything else around 12 wins…

    Brady broke the bank in wins with 4000+

    What other QB’s am I even missing that threw 4000+??

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Great points. More reasons that Palmer shouldn’t be mentioned in the same breath as Brees, Favre, Marino, Brady or Manning. Lol!

    >>>>

    Statistically the average wins in a season for a 4000+ yard passer is prolly over 11 wins!

    And this “genius” wants to dump ours!

    For a dude that tossed up a whopping 155!!

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    You’re not done with your homework. How many points did each of those offenses score?

  • 00tt00

    I posted before RGIII at #2 got a 4YR 21M contract with 13M signing bonus and first year salary of 390k which gives you a cap number of around 3.5M

  • 00tt00

    that dude that tossed up 155 yards only had like 60 yards going into the 4th quarter of a season finale in which the opposing team knew the GM and HC were going to be fired

  • 00tt00

    could you even imagine what that would look like against a playoff caliber team at the beginning of the season

  • 00tt00

    out gang

  • Whoknows

    that dude that tossed up 155 yards only had like 60 yards going into the 4th quarter of a season finale in which the opposing team knew the GM and HC were going to be fired
    ********************
    So are we supposed to believe that SD wasn’t playing hard but all the Raiders were playing full out? Those same players who couldn’t block for CP or hold on to any of his passes? They must have been saving all year then, huh?

  • Gdog

    RaiderDebo Says:
    March 11th, 2013 at 10:55 pm

    Gdog Says:
    March 11th, 2013 at 10:53 pm
    RaiderDebo Says:
    March 11th, 2013 at 10:47 pm

    Gdog Says:
    March 11th, 2013 at 10:41 pm
    Brees had two 7-9 seasons with 4000+, (NO defenses stunk in 07′ and 12′ too (26th and 32nd))

    Farve never was lower than 8-8 with 4000+

    Marino had one 6-10 (defense stunk in 1988 (26th)) otherwise was usually in over ten wins with 4000+

    Fouts had three seasons over 4000+ averaged 11 wins.

    Manning had one 6-10 year over 4000+ (defense stunk in 2001 (29th)) everything else around 12 wins…

    Brady broke the bank in wins with 4000+

    What other QB’s am I even missing that threw 4000+??

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Great points. More reasons that Palmer shouldn’t be mentioned in the same breath as Brees, Favre, Marino, Brady or Manning. Lol!

    >>>>

    Statistically the average wins in a season for a 4000+ yard passer is prolly over 11 wins!

    And this “genius” wants to dump ours!

    For a dude that tossed up a whopping 155!!

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    You’re not done with your homework. How many points did each of those offenses score

    >>>

    Do your own homework! I doubt you’d even figure out how to search for it!

  • irjonny

    don’t be surprised if the vikings trade with us to get geno. jussayin

  • irjonny

    also the jets are saying they have been offered a “good” deal already for revis including a contract extension. please tell me it includes carson palmer!!