Update on Raiders moves in terms of salary cap
By Steve Corkran
Tuesday, March 12th, 2013 at 6:36 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The Raiders entered Tuesday $8.5 million under the salary cap. Releasing free safety Michael Huff, wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey and defensive lineman Dave Tollefson freed up an additional $8.75 million in cap room.
Factoring in the Raiders re-signing cornerback Phillip Adams to a one-year contract, the Raiders are flush with approximately $16 million in cap space for 2013, even though they have an astonishing $32 million in dead money — money accounted for on players no longer on the roster.
The Raiders saved the following amounts with their three roster moves Tuesday: $5.34 million on Heyward-Bey, $1.79 million on Huff and $1.6 million on Tollefson.
That’s the positive news. On the downside, the Raiders lost a player some considered their best all-around defensive back — Huff played free safety and cornerback for the Raiders last season — and one of their most productive wide receivers at a time when they are thin at that position.
Worse for the Raiders, outside lineback Philip Wheeler signed with the Miami Dolphins and defensive lineman Desmond Bryant hooked on with the Cleveland Browns. Bryant and Wheeler were two of Oakland’s most consistent players last season.
In other words, the Raiders have some money to spend and a ton of needs to spend it on. They can free up even more money by releasing or restructuing the likes of quarerback Carson Palmer, linebacker Rolando McClain and defensive tackle Tommy Kelly.
For those wondering why the Raiders didn’t cut McClain on Tuseday, it’s simple: They didn’t have to and there’s still a chance, albeit slim, that another team will pony up a late-round draft pick for McClain.
Hey, it’s worth a shot.
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March 12th, 2013 at 6:38 pm
Over/under 3.5 competitive games next year?
March 12th, 2013 at 6:39 pm
So Ellerbe and Wheeler take the place of older and released Dansby and Burnett at linebacker for the Dolphins.
Fins spent almost all of their cap space on Day 1 of free agency.
March 12th, 2013 at 6:41 pm
IHOP = Reggies way.
March 12th, 2013 at 6:41 pm
Damn! $32 million in dead money…
March 12th, 2013 at 6:42 pm
Giordano could take Huff’s place.
March 12th, 2013 at 6:43 pm
Des Bryan signs Browns 5 34mm 15 mm guar
March 12th, 2013 at 6:44 pm
Damn! $32 million in dead money…
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yep. which translates to instant $32 million cap space in 2014!!!
March 12th, 2013 at 6:44 pm
BURN IT DOWN. fk it.
It’s not like the Raiders were winning with those guy anyway.
March 12th, 2013 at 6:44 pm
Draft Clowney Or Murray next year with the first pick in 2014 Fire Da and Mumbles
March 12th, 2013 at 6:46 pm
# KoolKell Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 6:42 pm
Giordano could take Huff’s place.
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I shuddered at the thought.
Mike Mitchell at Huff’s place would be better – marginally, but better.
I’m still of thought somehow, someway, the aging Adrian Wilson will be a Raiders safety. Although, he is of the Branch mold. Hard hitter, stone hands.
March 12th, 2013 at 6:46 pm
FIRE REGGIE NOW.
March 12th, 2013 at 6:46 pm
Mark is broke. In the NFL you can field an 0-16 team and still make money. He has to pay some taxes on the team, so don’t expect us to use this cap space for a few seasons.
We are fked for another 5 years at least.
March 12th, 2013 at 6:47 pm
LIST OF STARTERS WE STILL NEED based on the roster at this point:
RT/G
TE
DE
DT
LB
LB
CB
CB
FS
no way we get decent guys at all these positions through free agency and the draft…
we will be horrific next year. FU REGGIE.
March 12th, 2013 at 6:48 pm
Should we give Clowny his Jersey now or do we have to wait the 13 months?
March 12th, 2013 at 6:48 pm
Phillip Adams resigned to 1 year contract at 0.7 M , great Job Reggie, the guy would be a stud at CB
March 12th, 2013 at 6:48 pm
FU REGGIE?
FU MARK.
Davis is the one who hired McKenzie and is allowing him to do this.
I’m all in for gutting and cleansing the Raiders, however.
March 12th, 2013 at 6:48 pm
Giordano is a free Safety, Mitchell plays in the box.
March 12th, 2013 at 6:48 pm
rediaR Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 6:48 pm
Should we give Clowny his Jersey now or do we have to wait the 13 months?
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We didn’t let go of any play maker? what r u even talking about?
March 12th, 2013 at 6:50 pm
Good moves, i loved DHB and his heart and 150% effort, but the guy just wasn’t a game changer, Huff doesn’t deserve 10M , Adams at 1 M would give us as much production or more than Huff, if you guys forget the guy was our best DB in last 5-6 games or so
March 12th, 2013 at 6:50 pm
Wow where will we look to fill these positions of need? Can we make a trade and with what?
March 12th, 2013 at 6:50 pm
KoolKell
Remember when Mitchell was forced to play at FS when Huff was at corner and Gio was hurting?
Disaster-piece.
You’re right. Mitchell is in-the-box, blitz/run-support safety.
March 12th, 2013 at 6:51 pm
Jackasspuria Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 6:41 pm
Damn! $32 million in dead money…
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Insane. Thanks, Al.
March 12th, 2013 at 6:51 pm
Hey, where’s Father Pride & Poise? I wanna hear what u havta say about DHB? And how many of Al’s picks show any promise at all at this point?
March 12th, 2013 at 6:51 pm
Thanks Hue for the Palmer trade. His contract really hampers us from moving forward in free agency and on top of that we give up a 1st and 2nd. one of the worst trades ever for the Raider organization.
March 12th, 2013 at 6:52 pm
Reggie is trying to purge this team of anything related to Al Davis
Better watch out Mark.
March 12th, 2013 at 6:53 pm
Devilr8er Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 6:51 pm
Thanks Hue for the Palmer trade. His contract really hampers us from moving forward in free agency and on top of that we give up a 1st and 2nd. one of the worst trades ever in sports.
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Fixed the end for you.
March 12th, 2013 at 6:53 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 6:48 pm
rediaR Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 6:48 pm
Should we give Clowny his Jersey now or do we have to wait the 13 months?
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We didn’t let go of any play maker? what r u even talking about?
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No we didn’t but it doesn’t look good man
March 12th, 2013 at 6:53 pm
I am loving these moves….cut them all I say. I want some hard working, smart football players. Lets get this financial house in order, draft well, then add some key free agents when necessary….that’s the recipe in this league. Smart teams do it and are consistent…this team, except for a blip in the late 90’s early 00’s has been a joke since coming back to Oakland.
March 12th, 2013 at 6:54 pm
This is nuts. We’re getting further away from being competitive. We’re light years away now.
March 12th, 2013 at 6:54 pm
palmer, mcclain & kelly being held onto in hopes of getting something in return…….all three will be gone after the draft
March 12th, 2013 at 6:54 pm
Cutting DHB best news in a while. Losing Dez sucks but he got paid. Wheeler too. Oh well, we won’t be signing anyone till the 2nd or 3rd wave of FA. Not with $30 mill in dead money.
Bilukidi will start for Dez and Reggie will find more scrap at FS and OLB to bring in. Streater is anupgrade at #1 WR and Criner will get more reps too with DropsHellaBalls off the squad. If they don’t re-sign Shaugnasty, its time for Crawford to step up.
Let the young bloods in!
March 12th, 2013 at 6:54 pm
Da is the perfect coach for this team…..he brings nothing to the table either.
March 12th, 2013 at 6:54 pm
Devilr8er Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 6:51 pm
Thanks Hue for the Palmer trade. His contract really hampers us from moving forward in free agency and on top of that we give up a 1st and 2nd. one of the worst trades ever in sports.
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Fixed the end for you.
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Absolutely correct
March 12th, 2013 at 6:54 pm
next year all the pryor folks are going to complain he wasnt surrounded with talent
March 12th, 2013 at 6:55 pm
What doesn’t look good? Raiders resigned our best CB in last 5-6 for only 1 freaking M and cut ties with decent guys who were paid like superstars, I like Reggie’s plan, now hopefully some team trades for McClain
March 12th, 2013 at 6:55 pm
Branch at FS, Mitchell at SS.
March 12th, 2013 at 6:55 pm
Reggie is a joke at GM. He waits til last to free up a nice chunk in cap space? Too little, too late, dumbass…..
March 12th, 2013 at 6:55 pm
Devilr8er Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 6:51 pm
Thanks Hue for the Palmer trade. His contract really hampers us from moving forward in free agency and on top of that we give up a 1st and 2nd. one of the worst trades ever in sports.
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there are alot more issues than just the palmer trade
March 12th, 2013 at 6:56 pm
WOW we’re light years away cuz we got rid of SUPERSTARS like DHB, HUFF, and TOLLEFSON? LMAO THey would get much better player with the money saved
March 12th, 2013 at 6:56 pm
Wow where will we look to fill these positions of need? Can we make a trade and with what?
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that’s funny because they were areas of need before we cut them lol. anyone who was hoping for a SB in 2013 is just not realistic.
we now have 32 mil 2013 dead money which is 32 mil 2014 cap space. imagine if we go 8-8 with some up and comers and we have that money! is anyone here really convinced DHB was a NO.1 Wideout? Here comes streater!!
March 12th, 2013 at 6:56 pm
If someone had told me Reggie refused to sign BOTH Wheeler and Bryant I would have laughed and pointed.
We now have ONE positive rated player on our entire defense. Houston.
And a GM that refuses to spend money.
Just as well dump Palmer too… even Drew Brees couldn’t score enough points to overcome the worst defense in the NFL.
Reggie now needs what 7 new starters on defense if he dumps Kelly too? Returnering starters Shonasty (horrible) Houston (good) Branch (ok) and Burris (worst in PFFs ratings)
Yikes…
How deep is GB’s dumpsters???
March 12th, 2013 at 6:56 pm
Damn 2014 draft talk already, we usually save that for October when we are mathematically eliminated.
March 12th, 2013 at 6:57 pm
Demon Raider Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 6:55 pm
Reggie is a joke at GM. He waits til last to free up a nice chunk in cap space? Too little, too late, dumbass…..
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you need to realize what hes doing….the timing dont matter…….there is not going to be an attempt to field a competitive team this year
March 12th, 2013 at 6:57 pm
00tt00 Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 6:54 pm
next year all the pryor folks are going to complain he wasnt surrounded with talent
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Like the Palmerettes last year?
March 12th, 2013 at 6:57 pm
with all of these moves, i might buy the nfl package next year.
March 12th, 2013 at 6:57 pm
What if they pick up Greg Jennings to replace DHB, would you guys be happy?
March 12th, 2013 at 6:57 pm
We should get some decent comp picks in 2014 for Dez and Wheeler they will both be starters.
March 12th, 2013 at 6:58 pm
Irjonny Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 6:56 pm
Wow where will we look to fill these positions of need? Can we make a trade and with what?
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that’s funny because they were areas of need before we cut them lol. anyone who was hoping for a SB in 2013 is just not realistic.
we now have 32 mil 2013 dead money which is 32 mil 2014 cap space. imagine if we go 8-8 with some up and comers and we have that money! is anyone here really convinced DHB was a NO.1 Wideout? Here comes streater!!
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is anyone convinced streeter is a #1 wideout?
March 12th, 2013 at 6:58 pm
STREATER UDFA >> was better than DHB who was paid top 5-10 WR salary
March 12th, 2013 at 6:58 pm
McFragile 3rd highest paid RB ahead of Lynch, Foster, Jones-Drew. SERIOUSLY!
March 12th, 2013 at 6:58 pm
you need to realize what hes doing….the timing dont matter…….there is not going to be an attempt to field a competitive team this year
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That sounds like a competent GM.
March 12th, 2013 at 6:59 pm
If I was Palmer, I would ask to be cut.
March 12th, 2013 at 6:59 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 6:56 pm
WOW we’re light years away cuz we got rid of SUPERSTARS like DHB, HUFF, and TOLLEFSON? LMAO THey would get much better player with the money saved
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They are not the problem. Losing BOTH Bryant and Wheeler is. We only had three good defensive players on one of the worst defenses in the league and we lost two of them.
This is a grease fire!
March 12th, 2013 at 6:59 pm
00tt00 Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 6:58 pm
Irjonny Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 6:56 pm
Wow where will we look to fill these positions of need? Can we make a trade and with what?
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that’s funny because they were areas of need before we cut them lol. anyone who was hoping for a SB in 2013 is just not realistic.
we now have 32 mil 2013 dead money which is 32 mil 2014 cap space. imagine if we go 8-8 with some up and comers and we have that money! is anyone here really convinced DHB was a NO.1 Wideout? Here comes streater!!
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is anyone convinced streeter is a #1 wideout?
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HE will be the clear cut favorite among the current bunch
March 12th, 2013 at 6:59 pm
Reggie is a joke at GM. He waits til last to free up a nice chunk in cap space? Too little, too late, dumbass…..
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lol it’s not a race. still sooooo many good players out there.
Reggies words to Palmer’s agents “pay cut or we cut him june 1st when no team want him and we split cap hit over two years, unless we get a good trade deal” that’s business
March 12th, 2013 at 6:59 pm
Raiders for life Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 6:44 pm
BURN IT DOWN. fk it.
It’s not like the Raiders were winning with those guy anyway.
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Yup agreed. Our team sucks each year so let them all go for all I care…well maybe not Wheeler.
March 12th, 2013 at 6:59 pm
Mcfadden20
Here’s some news on how much Jennings, reportedly, wants…
A source tells ESPN Milwaukee’s Jason Wilde that the Packers previously made free agent Greg Jennings a $10M per year offer.
If true, it’s shocking. The Packers were thought to have moved on from Jennings, instead focusing on a very capable receiving trio of Randall Cobb, Jordy Nelson and James Jones. This news suggests that they are very open to bringing Jennings back. It’s unlikely he’ll fetch more than $10M per year on the open market — even from a receiver-needy team like the Vikings.
March 12th, 2013 at 6:59 pm
CDERaider Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 6:57 pm
We should get some decent comp picks in 2014 for Dez and Wheeler they will both be starters.
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dez was undrafted and i dont think we get anything for wheerler either if we didnt draft him
March 12th, 2013 at 6:59 pm
morilla Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 6:59 pm
If I was Palmer, I would ask to be cut.
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No frigging kidding!! I suddenly would feel sorry for him if he comes back.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:00 pm
Waiting to hear that Kelly has been purged. Hopefully Bilukidi can step up.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:00 pm
WHeeler wasn’t all that, the dude wanted 5 M a year? C’mon is he worth 5 M a year? seriously
March 12th, 2013 at 7:00 pm
is anyone convinced streeter is a #1 wideout?
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can you name a WR in recent history who was better?
March 12th, 2013 at 7:00 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 6:58 pm
STREATER UDFA >> was better than DHB who was paid top 5-10 WR salar
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Agreed. People love DHB purely for his draft slot. Production was never there.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:00 pm
Looks like this is going to be a heavy D oriented draft for the Raids – might be taking all defense. There’s plenty of decent FA’s out there for offensive needs, RT, G, TE, RB.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:00 pm
Devilr8er Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 6:51 pm
Thanks Hue for the Palmer trade. His contract really hampers us from moving forward in free agency and on top of that we give up a 1st and 2nd. one of the worst trades ever in sports.
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there are alot more issues than just the palmer trade
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I agree, but the Palmer trade had put us in a financial mess, we have a lot of out of whack contracts, but his takes the cake. We were alson without a 1st last season and 2nd this season. Those two draft picks are plug in players. Hue really screwed us.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:00 pm
Rekliner 13 – nice list, although you forgot WR. I posted almost this exact list before the end of the season. No way we fill those spots in 1 year with cap problems and no #2.
Have you ever overspent on credit at Chistmas, then had a big tax bill come due at the same time? You have to cut back like a mofo to make ends meet. Eventually debts are paid and you get your life back. This is the 2013 raiders.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:01 pm
It’s not like he’s letting people walk who were performing up to their salary. It’s full rebuild mode. At this point you might as well just roll with Pryor because this thing is being scorched to start over completely.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:01 pm
CDERaider Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:00 pm
Looks like this is going to be a heavy D oriented draft for the Raids – might be taking all defense. There’s plenty of decent FA’s out there for offensive needs, RT, G, TE, RB.
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It could definitely go that way,
March 12th, 2013 at 7:02 pm
Waiting to hear that Kelly has been purged. Hopefully Bilukidi can step up.
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THANK YOU!!!!
that’s the attitude to have. if we have 31 players on the bench every year who we are afraid to let see the field we are doomed as a team. let these young guys have their fair shake!
March 12th, 2013 at 7:02 pm
WOW HERE we go with the rebuild comments cuz we didn’t resign Phillip wheeler LMAO, if the hopes of the season are falling on the Phillip freaking wheeler than you are really not that good of a team
March 12th, 2013 at 7:03 pm
Yes go young, eff the over paid guys and underachievers
March 12th, 2013 at 7:03 pm
2013 – the year the Raiders finally hit rock bottom?
March 12th, 2013 at 7:04 pm
I think this makes the Raiders more exciting. I feel a little more optimistic about 2013. Hungry Dogs, baby. Led by Pryor??
March 12th, 2013 at 7:04 pm
How deep is GB’s dumpsters???
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Seriously. That says it all.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:04 pm
everyone assumes Reggie is cutting salary to spend it on other players. There is a good chance he just cuts salary . Reggie isnt built to succeed in free agency. he’s very slow. He operates at a snails pace. think about all his so called solid free agent pick ups last year. there are none. losing Dez was a mistake. his contract is market value. I’m not convinced Reggie’s goal is add quality free agents. He has enough cap room and the ability to create more space. he is either moving too slow, not being able to negotiate, or doesnt want to bring in mid level free agents
March 12th, 2013 at 7:05 pm
65.devilr8er Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:00 pm
Devilr8er Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 6:51 pm
Thanks Hue for the Palmer trade. His contract really hampers us from moving forward in free agency and on top of that we give up a 1st and 2nd. one of the worst trades ever in sports.
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there are alot more issues than just the palmer trade
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I agree, but the Palmer trade had put us in a financial mess, we have a lot of out of whack contracts, but his takes the cake. We were alson without a 1st last season and 2nd this season. Those two draft picks are plug in players. Hue really screwed us.
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Not possible. Hue is GM material. Al said so.
Allegedly.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:05 pm
Just think how happy we’ll all be with ANY victory in 2013
March 12th, 2013 at 7:05 pm
ESETERIK78 Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:00 pm
Jackie Bibby Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 6:55 pm
We cant support avg players who makes plays for our team but you want us to rejoice and support reggie when he cuts and replaces them with scrubs??? But my logic is messed up (scratches head). Yea… Ok.
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I don’t have the time.
Just read this:
Raida4Life Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 6:53 pm
I absolutely love what I’m seeing from Reggie and the front office! Great job guys!
Get these no good bums out of here….let these other teams overpay and waste money on players not worth it like we used to do. Cleveland signs Desmond Bryant, good bye and good riddance. I’m sure they’ll love him when the Steelers whip the Browns and he’s smiling on the sidelines in the final minutes. Darrius Heyward-Bey — was never any better than below average WR — geez I’m sure we can’t do any better than him. Peace out Huff I’ll miss watching you give up 40 yard TD passes.
I think it’s comical to see everybody in here whining and complaining. Our team has been GARBAGE forever because we used to be the ones like Miami and Cleveland doing this stupid crap and overbidding for free agents.
This is how good teams are built in the NFL and Reggie is cleaning up the mess. We will build through the draft and sign free agents of value. You people need to show some patience. Just look, Miami blows money today then cuts to very solid LB’s because of it, and those are the type of players that are going to be all over the place throughout the league tomorrow that we swoop in and get for great deals.
Keep up the good work Raiders front office…it’s about time we are on the small list of smart teams doing it the right way.
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Yeah, we’ll see which “value” FA’s McK can get now.
Don’t be overly optimistic though. haha
March 12th, 2013 at 7:05 pm
people in here were calling for DHB cut in 2010!!! why so much love now? because he had ALMOST 1000 yrds in 2011 and right back to form in 2012? garbage
March 12th, 2013 at 7:06 pm
We need to at least sign a couple players that we can start for a while. I don’t want other teams back ups as my starters…..
March 12th, 2013 at 7:06 pm
you know which no.1 WRs did better than DHB over the last 4 yrs? lol all of them
March 12th, 2013 at 7:06 pm
This team has no foundation its just an empty space. Lets start the build project
March 12th, 2013 at 7:07 pm
I don’t get why some of you are so upset. What do the Patriots, Packers, Steelers, Giants and Ravens have in common? They are all perennial superbowl contenders that have built their teams THROUGH THE DRAFT. Do you EVER see any of these teams “reach” to re-sign a player or make a huge FA splash? It doesn’t happen, because that is how you end up overpaying players (like Al did) to the point where you are now handcuffed by the salary cap. Under Cable and Hue we had two 8-8 years, but did you EVER really believe we were Superbowl contenders? No freaking way. What you end up with is an average team with no salary cap room to improve. It doesn’t work in today’s NFL. To compound matters, trading number 1 picks for vets nearing the end is ludicrous. Not to mention all the recent First round busts: Jamarcus, DHB, McClain. So THANK YOU REGGIE for tearing my beloved franchise to the ground so we can rebuild the greatness that once was. I for one applaud all these moves and am happy I don’t have to watch another overpaid scholarship player take the field again. Next, cut Kelly and force Palmer to restructure or give him his walking papers. I would be happy to trade McFadden if we could get some picks for him too. Burn it down, burn it down to the ground…
March 12th, 2013 at 7:07 pm
WOW this room is pathetic, always a freaking doom and gloom, even when they cut underachieving guys who have not lived upto their draft statuses, and didn’t resign average guys who wanted more than 5M a year, well i’m out here
March 12th, 2013 at 7:07 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:02 pm
WOW HERE we go with the rebuild comments cuz we didn’t resign Phillip wheeler LMAO, if the hopes of the season are falling on the Phillip freaking wheeler than you are really not that good of
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has nothing to do with wheeler..its all about Reggie doing nothing but cutting salary while many quality free agents go off the board. who could look forward to bartell version number 2..the salary cap was an excuse last year, not this year
March 12th, 2013 at 7:07 pm
We have the canvas, lets see how well Reggie can finger paint.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:08 pm
Palmer is coming back to this
Mess
March 12th, 2013 at 7:08 pm
Why are any of you shocked? This is EXACTLY what I told you was going to happen.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:08 pm
I am happy for REggie, Go Raiders, please trade Kelly and McClain and reconstruct Palmer
March 12th, 2013 at 7:08 pm
Isn’t
March 12th, 2013 at 7:08 pm
Nycraider Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:07 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:02 pm
WOW HERE we go with the rebuild comments cuz we didn’t resign Phillip wheeler LMAO, if the hopes of the season are falling on the Phillip freaking wheeler than you are really not that good of
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has nothing to do with wheeler..its all about Reggie doing nothing but cutting salary while many quality free agents go off the board. who could look forward to bartell version number 2..the salary cap was an excuse last year, not this year
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He should have done this last year.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:09 pm
Good..!
March 12th, 2013 at 7:09 pm
McFaddens_Sneakers Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:06 pm
This team has no foundation its just an empty space. Lets start the build project
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After McFadden is gone after this season, then the purge will be complete.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:09 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:02 pm
WOW HERE we go with the rebuild comments cuz we didn’t resign Phillip wheeler LMAO, if the hopes of the season are falling on the Phillip freaking wheeler than you are really not that good of a team
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Not just Wheeler (which leaves the worst rated LB in PFF as our only starting LB) but losing Bryant too.
If we dump Kelly and McClain, we now have to replace 2 starting linemen, 2 LB’s, 2 CB’s, and a FS.
With a GM that refuses to spend any money.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:09 pm
It’s not like any of the players let go were studs. Bryant hurts a little becuas we never really saw his full potential. For the most part they were serviceable.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:10 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:07 pm
WOW this room is pathetic, always a freaking doom and gloom, even when they cut underachieving guys who have not lived upto their draft statuses, and didn’t resign average guys who wanted more than 5M a year, well i’m out here
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wheeler and dez got 13M and 15M guaranteed with probably min salary this year incrementing to figures they will never see in year 4 and 5…….the cap hits were probably not that big…….reg is blowing up the place so he can tell mark he had to and buy himself another couple years before mark figures out what he did
March 12th, 2013 at 7:11 pm
OK I am trying to be positive here. I get DHB and I get Tollefson. But cutting Huff only saves 1.8 million off the cap. Where are we going to get a Safety as good as Huff for 1.8 million? Just asking the question. Seriously wondering if Mark Davis is trying to limit actual dollar spending (not cap) and inflicted this on RM. That would be a truely ominous sign.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:11 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:08 pm
Why are any of you shocked? This is EXACTLY what I told you was going to happen.
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I’m right there with you. I’m looking forward to the future.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:12 pm
except for possibly bryant , i doubt anyone is upset at Reggies cuts. Its about his snail like approach that just seems to not be able to keep up. he has enough room to add quality players. the question is can he. there are no excuses this year
March 12th, 2013 at 7:12 pm
I’m right there with you. I’m looking forward to the future.
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by future you mean 2016
March 12th, 2013 at 7:12 pm
It’s retarded how many positions we need to fill….
March 12th, 2013 at 7:12 pm
It’s official Reggie has thrown in the towel on the next few years…best hope clowney doesn’t get hurt…
March 12th, 2013 at 7:12 pm
1960AutumnWind Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:11 pm
Where are we going to get a Safety as good as Huff for 1.8 million?
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4th round compensatory selection?
March 12th, 2013 at 7:13 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:07 pm
WOW this room is pathetic, always a freaking doom and gloom, even when they cut underachieving guys who have not lived upto their draft statuses, and didn’t resign average guys who wanted more than 5M a year, well i’m out here
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BRYANT WAS UNDERACHIEVING??? Give me a frigging break! You don’t let top of the line YOUNG D-lineman walk for any reason!! He deserved to be paid. Now what are we going to spend the savings on???
March 12th, 2013 at 7:13 pm
you like to keep the young guys coming off their first contract that show promise
March 12th, 2013 at 7:13 pm
I don’t get why some of you are so upset. What do the Patriots, Packers, Steelers, Giants and Ravens have in common? They are all perennial superbowl contenders that have built their teams THROUGH THE DRAFT. Do you EVER see any of these teams “reach” to re-sign a player or make a huge FA splash? It doesn’t happen, because that is how you end up overpaying players (like Al did) to the point where you are now handcuffed by the salary cap. Under Cable and Hue we had two 8-8 years, but did you EVER really believe we were Superbowl contenders? No freaking way. What you end up with is an average team with no salary cap room to improve. It doesn’t work in today’s NFL. To compound matters, trading number 1 picks for vets nearing the end is ludicrous. Not to mention all the recent First round busts: Jamarcus, DHB, McClain. So THANK YOU REGGIE for tearing my beloved franchise to the ground so we can rebuild the greatness that once was. I for one applaud all these moves and am happy I don’t have to watch another overpaid scholarship player take the field again. Next, cut Kelly and force Palmer to restructure or give him his walking papers. I would be happy to trade McFadden if we could get some picks for him too. Burn it down, burn it down to the ground…
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Well said man. I couldn’t agree more.
For once, we are finally doing things the right way!
Thank you Reggie…it’s been long overdue!
March 12th, 2013 at 7:13 pm
Dang, what is going on here? Players getting cut and other signing elsewhere, and what have the Raiders done so far? Oh yeah, they signed Adams.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:13 pm
Burris should be much better in year 2, and Raiders will draft a LB in first 3 rounds.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:13 pm
Gdog Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:13 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:07 pm
WOW this room is pathetic, always a freaking doom and gloom, even when they cut underachieving guys who have not lived upto their draft statuses, and didn’t resign average guys who wanted more than 5M a year, well i’m out here
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BRYANT WAS UNDERACHIEVING??? Give me a frigging break! You don’t let top of the line YOUNG D-lineman walk for any reason!! He deserved to be paid. Now what are we going to spend the savings on???
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Scrubs at every position on defense, and their backups.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:15 pm
Gdog Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:13 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:07 pm
WOW this room is pathetic, always a freaking doom and gloom, even when they cut underachieving guys who have not lived upto their draft statuses, and didn’t resign average guys who wanted more than 5M a year, well i’m out here
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BRYANT WAS UNDERACHIEVING??? Give me a frigging break! You don’t let top of the line YOUNG D-lineman walk for any reason!! He deserved to be paid. Now what are we going to spend the savings on???
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We’ll bring in some one for sure, lol , we’re not going to have team of 40 players, there will always be 53 players on team , so jus chill
March 12th, 2013 at 7:15 pm
We have created more holes and there is no way they will be filled for years now. We didn’t resign 1 of our 17 free agents? I guess mgmt really wants clowney next year. This team is really going to suck. Last year set records at sucking. They’ll be obliterated this year. The cap excuse is a joke.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:16 pm
00tt00 Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:10 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:07 pm
WOW this room is pathetic, always a freaking doom and gloom, even when they cut underachieving guys who have not lived upto their draft statuses, and didn’t resign average guys who wanted more than 5M a year, well i’m out here
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wheeler and dez got 13M and 15M guaranteed with probably min salary this year incrementing to figures they will never see in year 4 and 5…….the cap hits were probably not that big…….reg is blowing up the place so he can tell mark he had to and buy himself another couple years before mark figures out what he did
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Exactly@!
We had enough cap room to keep both already!
March 12th, 2013 at 7:16 pm
McFadden
I agree with post #96. I think there was a feeding frennzy in the FA market today. Last year Wheeler played for 700k and this year he is getting 15 million garunteed no matter if he flops or what. Bryant and his contract is high as well. There was a lot of that going on today. Not everything but especially what Maimi was involved in. I actually know what happened. AD reincarnated and possessed the Maimi Dolphin’s GM (LOL).
I mean they just put what 60 million into their LBs that were not that bad last year? Then they threw 65 million to Wallace. We shall see. I think they may have taken over the Redskins dynasty of winning March.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:16 pm
Maybe we can sign Goldson?
March 12th, 2013 at 7:16 pm
CDERaider Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:00 pm
Looks like this is going to be a heavy D oriented draft for the Raids – might be taking all defense. There’s plenty of decent FA’s out there for offensive needs, RT, G, TE, RB.
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Yeah. McK will trade down from #3 and pretty much every pick will be on defense, except for maybe one pick.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:16 pm
RediaR Says:
4th round compensatory selection?
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Well they say the draft is deep at DB this year.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:16 pm
I think some of us on here think reggie couldnt sign these guys because they wanted out……and if thats the case that stigma will stick around the league
March 12th, 2013 at 7:17 pm
I think the plan is to move Lamar Houston inside, that’s what i been hoping for so long, he would really be a beast at DT, if he adds 15-20 lbs
March 12th, 2013 at 7:17 pm
You guys that keep on asking for Reggie’s head, and blaming everyone makes me sick. You think that by picking up FAs that we will be a competitive team? It was done for the past years will the same result. You appear to be happy with an 8-8 season because we have been losing all these years. As for me, I rather suffer through 2-14 and a 4-12 year the next 2 years and come out winning 10+ games in a 16 game season. A chance at the super bowl. Not just be a mediocre team that somehow manages to make the playoff and gets eliminated in the first round. I hope Reggie is filling the roster with competent backups and a few starters during this period because of injury concerns. Depth is very important. In 2015, we should be ready to make a move and should be a good team for serveral years to come.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:17 pm
morilla Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:09 pm
It’s not like any of the players let go were studs. Bryant hurts a little becuas we never really saw his full potential. For the most part they were serviceable.
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Exactly. And the salary cap IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE A PROBLEM because of all the dead money Al paid to guys who sucked ass. And it is going to continue to be a problem into next year. But you look at the moves McKenzie has made, or not made. Right now the McCaskey family is camped out in front of Mike Bush’s house wanting some of their money back. And the Hunt family has been trying to find Stan Routt for the robbery he pulled on them. The guys McKenzie did not sign this time, were as Morilla said, serviceable at best. Time to move on.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:17 pm
Demon Raider Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:16 pm
Maybe we can sign Goldson?
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lol lol lol lol
March 12th, 2013 at 7:17 pm
Reggie getting it done! Good moves, netx year may be ruff but he is setting us up for the future. Go Reggie!!
March 12th, 2013 at 7:17 pm
Who in here can honestly say that when we drafter DHB in the 1st round in 2009 they didn’t get absolutely sick to their stomachs?!?
It was one of the most ridiculous wastes of a crucial 1st round pick ever.
Then for the last few years we’ve all been like, well maybe we were right for wasting such an important pick on him, and rooting him on to succeed. The kid worked hard but never gave us anything worth talking about. He was a C player at best.
How on earth will we ever live without DHB on our roster hahaha…some of you guys are hilarious!
March 12th, 2013 at 7:18 pm
RM is doing what he should have done last year. I guess they really overestimated what they had and now realize this was a team with no depth and overpaid players. In light of this, they really should have played Pryor more than one game in 2012.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:18 pm
Gdog
Real question is that the best use of the cap room? At those prices I think we probably could do better later on in FA. Still do not understand Huff though.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:18 pm
Does anyone have the number of players that are left on the team?
March 12th, 2013 at 7:18 pm
Goldson is on a private Bucs plane to Tampa. Forget him. C. Wood is visiting the 49ers tomorrow. Man, can things get any worse? I don’t see why Wheeler or Bryant had to leave.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:18 pm
We need to trade out of the 3rd spot and collect as many picks as we can get it’s not even debatable at this point
March 12th, 2013 at 7:18 pm
Don’t worry Taiwan Jones will be a beast CB
March 12th, 2013 at 7:19 pm
LOL Dwight Howard 25-39 from the line tonight.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:19 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:15 pm
We’ll bring in some one for sure, lol , we’re not going to have team of 40 players, there will always be 53 players on team , so jus chill
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The point is THIS IS NOT HOW YOU RUN A TEAM!!
What did Wheeler and Bryant do to not deserve better compensation?
So we let our good players go, and dumpster dive for replacements.
Wow.
Just chill huh…
March 12th, 2013 at 7:20 pm
00tt00 Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:16 pm
I think some of us on here think reggie couldnt sign these guys because they wanted out……and if thats the case that stigma will stick around the league
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Exactly. Guys want to go play for a winner. No one wants to go to a team and lose 10 games a year. It really grinds on the players. But a lot of dead wood is getting cut out of here. Looks like Kelly is sticking tho now that Bryant is outty.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:20 pm
Man I think Reggie just doesn’t know how to use a calculator…he just gave up. But hey we got Adams….lol….glad I didn’t renew.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:21 pm
Raida4Life Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:17 pm
Who in here can honestly say that when we drafter DHB in the 1st round in 2009 they didn’t get absolutely sick to their stomachs?!?
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It made Crabtree sick to his stomach. That’s why he held out. He knew that #7 money should have been his.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:21 pm
When your drafting #3 overall a lot of free agents just might not want to come here or even stay unless its ” Show me the $$$$”
Although how’d we do it before?
Oh ya, Al overspent.
Lets not go that route again.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:21 pm
Championships aren’t won in March, Just ask AL Davis and Redskins owner, they’re won in April when teams draft future Probowlers and Hall of Famers
March 12th, 2013 at 7:21 pm
has nothing to do with wheeler..its all about Reggie doing nothing but cutting salary while many quality free agents go off the board.
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what could we do? look at 90% of the signings today are you for real? they are ridiculous amounts of money. dolphins signed wallace and ellerbe and now they are at the cap ceiling and they had way more than us until now.
reggie is cutting the blanks and ready to reload with real bullets. this will be a semi friendly blog soon because we are going to start winning with realistic players shortly…you’ll see
March 12th, 2013 at 7:21 pm
This team is really going to suck. Last year set records at sucking. They’ll be obliterated this year. The cap excuse is a joke.
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Been sucking for years. Don’t forget we can still sign Javon Walker at the last minute.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:21 pm
What did Wheeler and Bryant do to not deserve better compensation?
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They weren’t going to sign here. They don’t have to sign here. They are unrestricted. They can take waaaaaaay less money and go play for the Whiners if they want.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:21 pm
Raida4Life
Bey could have been had probably into the early 2nd round if not later. We could have traded back and got more pics at the very least. That pic reminded me of Jano with a 1st (great player but would have been there in the 3rd). Even Namdi was a bad pic. He took three years to develop into anything and could have been there into the 3rd and we picked him at the end of the first. Back in those days we had to really pay the early pics there was no rookie salary cap.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:21 pm
1960AutumnWind Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:18 pm
Gdog
Real question is that the best use of the cap room? At those prices I think we probably could do better later on in FA. Still do not understand Huff though.
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Bryant was the top rated FA d-lineman. Why let him walk?
Name one reason. I will listen.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:21 pm
We are becoming the Seattle Supersonics in front of our eyes.
Some of these moves seem like a chance to shore up the books to make the sale of the team more feasibly and marketable.
Seriously. If Mark wants out and we got no stadium in place, who knows what becomes of us.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:21 pm
do you guys think bryant and wheeler weren’t offered contracts? reggie set a price, it wasn’t enough for them. he’s offered contract, the players haven’t bitten, and until we’re good, people will take market value.
build through the draft
March 12th, 2013 at 7:21 pm
I’m still mad we didn’t sign Jenkins
March 12th, 2013 at 7:22 pm
No need to half ass this. Dump them all then. After Palmer and Kelly are cut then they should have like $30+ mil in cap space. Should have done this early and signed some players instead of Reggie sitting on his ass. This dude has no clue what he is doing. Team? What team?
Fire Reggie!
March 12th, 2013 at 7:22 pm
Reggie is a fvckin clown…
March 12th, 2013 at 7:23 pm
In all honesty, this should have been done 8 years ago, when the “great” Al Davis should have given up control of the team.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:23 pm
Some of you should look at the Roster on Raiders.com.
Some young talent there. Or not, hard to say.
If we have another losing season I will at least be able sleep knowing we didn’t lose with a bunch of over paid schmucks.
Wheeler and Bryant are getting paid, good for them. That is part of the business. Just like last year, Reg couldn’t pay Bush or Wimbley what they wanted. Moving on.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:23 pm
117.00tt00 Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:16 pm
I think some of us on here think reggie couldnt sign these guys because they wanted out……and if thats the case that stigma will stick around the league
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BS. Wheeler and Bryant took advantage of maybe the only time in their careers that they could cash in.
Reggie is building for the future, like it or not. He’s going to limit as much as he can the money he pushes forward so that the team CAN have the flexibility to improve (and maintain) the roster in future years, without disastrous consequences.
The players realized they could make more elsewhere, and did the right thing for themselves and their families when presented with the opportunity to do so. I doubt they went to the Browns and Dolphins because they have designs on a Lombardi trophy.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:24 pm
What did Wheeler and Bryant do to not deserve better compensation?
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they looked like all stars amongst one of the worst Defenses in the nfl. comon man make wheeler and bryant the highest paid players on our D? no way.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:24 pm
If Reggie sees something in Adams why not sign him to a longer deal while he’s cheap. If he comes out and balls next year he’ll cost a small fortune. Same misstake as not signing Wheeler at 8 games last year.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:25 pm
#138
Agree with Kell, some people on this blog lack perspective. 2006 Raiders were worse than last year by far! There were other years that was just as bad as last year since 94.
I do have to say that Resturcturing Briesell and cutting Huff bothers me though. I am not getting that at all unless the Def coaches just don’t think Huff is very good at CB (which is was not very good) nor very good a FS which I thought he was average.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:25 pm
reggie is building for the future ..agreed. when you do nothing in the present, your only hope is the future
March 12th, 2013 at 7:25 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:21 pm
What did Wheeler and Bryant do to not deserve better compensation?
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They weren’t going to sign here. They don’t have to sign here. They are unrestricted. They can take waaaaaaay less money and go play for the Whiners if they want.
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But he didn’t. He went to CLEVELAND??
Al would never had let Bryant walk in a million years.
Now we get to replace him some scrub that nobody ever heard of, or a rookie. While he is surrounded by players nobody has ever heard of and rookies.
Just cut everyone Reggie…
March 12th, 2013 at 7:25 pm
What makes you think Reggie can draft players that are going to be better? So far, I’m less than impressed with his draft picks and FA signings from last year. For all those who say we’ll be better in a couple of years. What are you basing that on. Can’t be the track record of this regime so far.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:25 pm
Fire Reggie the worst disaster to ever hit California…
March 12th, 2013 at 7:25 pm
I can see the flashbulb going off in DHB’s head as he was shaking Reggie’s sticky, from syrup, fat hand.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:25 pm
if reggie wants to make this the best offseason in recent memory for the raiders get a trade out of mcfadden.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:26 pm
ian85 Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:18 pm
We need to trade out of the 3rd spot and collect as many picks as we can get it’s not even debatable at this poin
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Exactly! Just gotta hope McK can find a trade partner and some team falls in love with one of the tackes who may fall to #3, Geno, or Jones or Jordan.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:26 pm
There is no future here…it will be sold.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:27 pm
F’n money ball.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:27 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:07 pm
WOW this room is pathetic, always a freaking doom and gloom, even when they cut underachieving guys who have not lived upto their draft statuses, and didn’t resign average guys who wanted more than 5M a year, well i’m out here
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I believe the Raiders had 2 major goals this FA-sign Wheeler and Bryant to contact that is market price. Reggie went 0 for 2. So now lets rebuild-get some hard working vets for leadership at vet minimum, draft wisely, and cut or trade all these scholarship players. Burn it to the ground.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:27 pm
ineoneword
i’m guessing the same as you. Reggie is low balling guys in attempt to make more moves beyond them. this being Wheeler and Bryant …
i’d say next up is TK …
i also think this is what’s goin on with CP3:
Reggie is going to wait until after the draft to give the illusion that he’s drafting Geno Smith. he wants to move back with BUF most likely(i bet they’ve already been talking)
Warmack at #8 would be sweeeeet IMO .. he’ll shore up our center position. we need a big nasty probowl Center spear heading our OL… then go get Winston and bing badda boom… we’re ready to go. Brisiel will play better with Winston next to him.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:27 pm
153.nycraider Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:25 pm
reggie is building for the future ..agreed. when you do nothing in the present, your only hope is the future
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When you are building for the future you ARE doing something in the present.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:28 pm
you want to know why we are cutting players and not signing any? because we don’t even have any players on this team worthy of trade bait!! this team HAS BEEN a terrible excuse for a franchise. im so excited for a rebuild!!! cheers to those out there that agree.
can’t wait to have a season better than 2012 while we have 32 (so far) immediate cap money in 2014
March 12th, 2013 at 7:28 pm
irjonny Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:25 pm
if reggie wants to make this the best offseason in recent memory for the raiders get a trade out of mcfadden.
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I assume this is sarcasm.
Ridiculous day.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:28 pm
irjonny Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:24 pm
What did Wheeler and Bryant do to not deserve better compensation?
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they looked like all stars amongst one of the worst Defenses in the nfl. comon man make wheeler and bryant the highest paid players on our D? no way.
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LOL!
So who WILL be the highest paid player?
There isn’t anybody left!!!
And Reggie doesn’t spend money in free agency!
Our highest paid defensive starter will prolly make less than most teams highest paid backup!!
March 12th, 2013 at 7:28 pm
The only good news is that we’ll be in great cap shape when the new GM takes over.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:28 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:26 pm
There is no future here…it will be sold.
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You been repeating that for the last 12 months, that message isn’t getting any newer, if that’s how you feel, don’t understand why you spend half of your day repeating the stale messages
March 12th, 2013 at 7:29 pm
Exactly! Just gotta hope McK can find a trade partner and some team falls in love with one of the tackes who may fall to #3, Geno, or Jones or Jordan.
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he definitely won’t tip his hand by offing Palmer right now. we’re going to have to wait another month and hear THE TIRESOME DEBATE IN HERE EVEN FURTHER … FML
March 12th, 2013 at 7:29 pm
Nnamdi is a FA. I wouldn’t mind signing DRC. There a few guys out there that I’d like to sign. I believe in building through the draft, but when you have as many holes as we do, you have to build through FA as well….
March 12th, 2013 at 7:29 pm
Gdog Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:25 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:21 pm
What did Wheeler and Bryant do to not deserve better compensation?
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They weren’t going to sign here. They don’t have to sign here. They are unrestricted. They can take waaaaaaay less money and go play for the Whiners if they want.
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But he didn’t. He went to CLEVELAND??
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That’s my point. He can go where ever he wants. Cleveland obviously paid him. We couldn’t. Al paid mediocre guys ridiculous contracts. That’s why we are in this mess.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:29 pm
Edward Teach Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:27 pm
153.nycraider Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:25 pm
reggie is building for the future ..agreed. when you do nothing in the present, your only hope is the future
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When you are building for the future you ARE doing something in the present.
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the word building means to develop or add. reggie has done neither
March 12th, 2013 at 7:29 pm
We are going to get some very good players in here via free agency in the next couple of weeks…mark my words.
And at reasonable prices.
I love what I’m seeing.
so long Rolando McClain you piece of #$%@….keep up the good work Reggie cleaning this mess up.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:29 pm
month and a half excuse me.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:29 pm
inonewordraider Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:21 pm
do you guys think bryant and wheeler weren’t offered contracts? reggie set a price, it wasn’t enough for them. he’s offered contract, the players haven’t bitten, and until we’re good, people will take market value.
build through the draft
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Wheeler said as much that he had been offered something but wanted to test his options. Probably the same with Bryant. From what I heard though they were going to let Myers move on unless he can come back cheap. They were probably 30% lower which is about how much people are overpaid on the 1st day of FA.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:29 pm
irjonny Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:28 pm
you want to know why we are cutting players and not signing any? because we don’t even have any players on this team worthy of trade bait!! this team HAS BEEN a terrible excuse for a franchise. im so excited for a rebuild!!! cheers to those out there that agree.
can’t wait to have a season better than 2012 while we have 32 (so far) immediate cap money in 2014
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Cheers
March 12th, 2013 at 7:29 pm
raiderfankirk Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:24 pm
If Reggie sees something in Adams why not sign him to a longer deal while he’s cheap. If he comes out and balls next year he’ll cost a small fortune. Same misstake as not signing Wheeler at 8 games last year.
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Exactly.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:30 pm
Mctroll Reggie is proving me right….good luck cheering for the Oklahoma City raiders…
March 12th, 2013 at 7:30 pm
If you look at flat dead money, #Raiders are $16 mil under cap. But they can choose to spread it over 2 seasons to give them max $23 mil
from levidamien
23 under the cap!!!! OMG when has that EVER happened to us. We could sign Eric Winston tomorrow and not flinch. and that’s without palmer or kelly deals/cuts
March 12th, 2013 at 7:30 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
You been repeating that for the last 12 months, that message isn’t getting any newer, if that’s how you feel, don’t understand why you spend half of your day repeating the stale messages
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A lot of guys in here need new material.
Anyway, I don’t expect a guy using the login “Al_is_theraiders” to know how a modern NFL team should be run.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:31 pm
Raida4Life Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:29 pm
We are going to get some very good players in here via free agency in the next couple of weeks…mark my words.
And at reasonable prices.
I love what I’m seeing.
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Like last year at CB? LOL, Reggie is frickin horrible
March 12th, 2013 at 7:31 pm
Raida4Life Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:29 pm
We are going to get some very good players in here via free agency in the next couple of weeks…mark my words.
And at reasonable prices.
I love what I’m seeing.
so long Rolando McClain you piece of #$%@….keep up the good work Reggie cleaning this mess up.
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i’m starting to lean that way as well. remember the niners last off season? they had quality signings like Goodwin, Whitner, and Rogers(probowler) … and they waited and waited for months to make those signings
now if mumbles doesn’t do ANYTHING because he’s being ultra cheap, then start to pancake.. grr i mean panic
March 12th, 2013 at 7:31 pm
irjonny Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:28 pm
you want to know why we are cutting players and not signing any? because we don’t even have any players on this team worthy of trade bait!! this team HAS BEEN a terrible excuse for a franchise. im so excited for a rebuild!!! cheers to those out there that agree.
can’t wait to have a season better than 2012 while we have 32 (so far) immediate cap money in 2014
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Uhh, sorry for pointing out the obvious… but WTF DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE HOW MUCH CAP ROOM WE HAVE NEXT SEASON?
Reggie doesn’t pay his players that play well, and he doesn’t spend money on free agents!
March 12th, 2013 at 7:31 pm
Scrubball the new raiders regime…
March 12th, 2013 at 7:31 pm
NycRaider
Sometime you have to clean out the closet before you reorganize it. I.E. make a mess to get things in order.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:32 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:30 pm
Mctroll Reggie is proving me right….good luck cheering for the Oklahoma City raiders
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so did he just proved you right, or been proving you right? and if either is the case, why won’t you take your jabroni @ss out of here and follow that whiners team, oh i forgot you do that anyways, keep trolling
March 12th, 2013 at 7:32 pm
When we get immediate cap room, will McK spend??
Doubt it….
March 12th, 2013 at 7:32 pm
I don’t expect a guy from Texas to know much about anything…
March 12th, 2013 at 7:33 pm
good luck cheering for the Oklahoma City raiders
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Hmmmm. Well, I could go to all the home games if that happened.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:33 pm
Gdog
Is Palmer still starting?
March 12th, 2013 at 7:33 pm
The problem is that since Al traded Jon Gruden, back in 2001,We have been JUNK( CEPT for the SB Year). We have been losers, and this is hard to deal with, period.. Starting over, with little light at the end of the Tunnel, and whats next? Afraid to ask…
March 12th, 2013 at 7:33 pm
Jabroni? Way to age yourself genius…
March 12th, 2013 at 7:33 pm
RaidO Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:31 pm
Raida4Life Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:29 pm
We are going to get some very good players in here via free agency in the next couple of weeks…mark my words.
And at reasonable prices.
I love what I’m seeing.
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Like last year at CB? LOL, Reggie is frickin horrible
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C’mon Oakfshow, you ain’t fooling anyone
March 12th, 2013 at 7:33 pm
LOL!
So who WILL be the highest paid player?
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how about signing Houston to a 5-6 year deal because he is clearly the only raider player on defense who deserves such a contract! it’d be the first time in recent memory that a raider who deserved the money got it before a friggin free agent!!!
March 12th, 2013 at 7:33 pm
Apparently, the way to run a modern NFL team is into the ground.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:33 pm
… even though they have an astonishing $32 million in dead money…
Not good, but not a death knell, either.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323874204578217830553459320.html
Logic suggests teams with less dead money will do better, since they can afford to pay more for current talent. But this year’s playoff teams had an average of $11.1 million in dead money, $3.3 million more than the average non-playoff team. The Colts, Patriots and Texans were among the league’s top five dead-money leaders.
This year’s Colts went 11-5 despite a league-leading $38.6 million in dead money, which is more than half of the $75 million the team is paying to its active, non-injured players.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:33 pm
RaidO Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:31 pm
Raida4Life Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:29 pm
We are going to get some very good players in here via free agency in the next couple of weeks…mark my words.
And at reasonable prices.
I love what I’m seeing.
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Like last year at CB? LOL, Reggie is frickin horrible
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LOL
March 12th, 2013 at 7:34 pm
Edward Teach Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:27 pm
153.nycraider Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:25 pm
reggie is building for the future ..agreed. when you do nothing in the present, your only hope is the future
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When you are building for the future you ARE doing something in the present.
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the word building means to develop or add. reggie has done neither
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Addition by subtraction
March 12th, 2013 at 7:34 pm
Gdog
How do you know if he does not play his players. Until recently we have not had any cap to pay players who play well or not well. One thing he is not doing which I like, is getting into bidding wars on the 1st day of FA even if the FA is one of ours.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:34 pm
Dansby should be the first signing… following the immediate release of McLame
that’ll make me feel so much better about our front seven
Dansby is worth $5mill a year in my opinion. you go draft Jarvis Jones at #3, and that kid will have a great mentor to bring him along. those two would make a fearsome duo.
just wish we could keep Wheeler as well.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:34 pm
1960AutumnWind Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:31 pm
NycRaider
Sometime you have to clean out the closet before you reorganize it. I.E. make a mess to get things in order.
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Break some eggs to make an omelet?
March 12th, 2013 at 7:34 pm
Burn it to the ground.
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I keep telling you guys, Rome wasn’t burnt in a day.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:34 pm
irjonny Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:30 pm
If you look at flat dead money, #Raiders are $16 mil under cap. But they can choose to spread it over 2 seasons to give them max $23 mil
from levidamien
23 under the cap!!!! OMG when has that EVER happened to us. We could sign Eric Winston tomorrow and not flinch. and that’s without palmer or kelly deals/cuts
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Ha ha ha!!! You said a funny! Winston wants the same kind of money Reggie just refused to give Bryant.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:34 pm
LMAO at anything man, The Man D has been getting abused since the 03s, QBs scored at will, and this guy thought it was some great D, lol MR at his finest
March 12th, 2013 at 7:34 pm
RM is a joke…. His draft class sucked outside of Burriss
March 12th, 2013 at 7:35 pm
Can’t believe how many Reggie apologists there still are who are now crawling out of the mud to defend “their guy.”
I called it the day Reggie was hired and Hue was fired while listening to Reggie bumble his way through that press conference: Reggie = the Art Shell Part II of GMs.
I rest my case.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:35 pm
173.nycraider Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:29 pm
Edward Teach Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:27 pm
153.nycraider Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:25 pm
reggie is building for the future ..agreed. when you do nothing in the present, your only hope is the future
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When you are building for the future you ARE doing something in the present.
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the word building means to develop or add. reggie has done neither
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You can’t pour the foundation or buy the lumber if your checkbook is overdrawn. You have to get what you can with the resources you have until you can afford to buy the materials. Then you can start building.
Is that better?
March 12th, 2013 at 7:35 pm
Headin’ to SoCal – book it!
March 12th, 2013 at 7:35 pm
hendu Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:33 pm
The problem is that since Al traded Jon Gruden, back in 2001,We have been JUNK( CEPT for the SB Year). We have been losers, and this is hard to deal with, period.. Starting over, with little light at the end of the Tunnel, and whats next? Afraid to ask…
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A sale and a move back to LA??
Ugh
March 12th, 2013 at 7:35 pm
Maybe Reggie wants to extend Houston’s contract because they guy will be a FA next year, not a bad Idea
March 12th, 2013 at 7:36 pm
Elvis Dumervil willing to restructure, but may be cut anyway
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/12/elvis-dumervil-willing-to-restructure-but-may-be-cut-anyway/
March 12th, 2013 at 7:36 pm
Demon Raider Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:21 pm
I’m still mad we didn’t sign Jenkins
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I’m still mad we fired cable. Then hue. Anybody think we will have 53 players by camp?
March 12th, 2013 at 7:36 pm
DKnight007 Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:32 pm
When we get immediate cap room, will McK spend??
Doubt it….
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But isn’t that the point…………to not spend?
These guys have to know how a move today effects them in two years.
That’s never been the MO here. Al was only worried about today, not tomorrow, and not two years.
If I have to suffer for two, three more years, only to see them run off a decade of playoff football after that.
I’m on board.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:36 pm
Demon Raider Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:34 pm
RM is a joke…. His draft class sucked outside of Burriss
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his first pick was early 4th round pick, ofcourse it was going to suck, how many late round picks turn into anything?
March 12th, 2013 at 7:36 pm
1960AutumnWind Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:31 pm
NycRaider
Sometime you have to clean out the closet before you reorganize it. I.E. make a mess to get things in order.
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i can respect that…but to me our closet is in order in 2013, no excuses. its time to move forward..16 mil under the cap is an opportunity to bring in 3 very good players. and there is still an opportunity to restructure others.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:37 pm
It just doesn’t matter…It just doesn’t matter…There, that feels better…Now, what to do with my savings from not getting NFL Ticket next year?
March 12th, 2013 at 7:37 pm
It’s gone…la it is…by that time Reggie (who us now married to these scrubs) and da will be gone…
March 12th, 2013 at 7:37 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:35 pm
Maybe Reggie wants to extend Houston’s contract because they guy will be a FA next year, not a bad Idea
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Reggie doesn’t have not a bad ideas.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:37 pm
RediaR Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 6:48 pm
Should we give Clowny his Jersey now or do we have to wait the 13 months?
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lmao
March 12th, 2013 at 7:37 pm
Chris in NY Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:35 pm
Can’t believe how many Reggie apologists there still are who are now crawling out of the mud to defend “their guy.”
I called it the day Reggie was hired and Hue was fired while listening to Reggie bumble his way through that press conference: Reggie = the Art Shell Part II of GMs.
I rest my case.
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It’s easy to hop off the train, when it’s not going well but success isn’t achieved overnight, it’s a slow process that takes tough decisions and etc, etc
March 12th, 2013 at 7:37 pm
Edward Teach Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:35 pm
173.nycraider Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:29 pm
Edward Teach Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:27 pm
153.nycraider Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:25 pm
reggie is building for the future ..agreed. when you do nothing in the present, your only hope is the future
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When you are building for the future you ARE doing something in the present.
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the word building means to develop or add. reggie has done neither
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You can’t pour the foundation or buy the lumber if your checkbook is overdrawn. You have to get what you can with the resources you have until you can afford to buy the materials. Then you can start building.
Is that better?
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16 mil under the cap isnt overdrawn..hows that
March 12th, 2013 at 7:38 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:33 pm
… even though they have an astonishing $32 million in dead money…
Not good, but not a death knell, either.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323874204578217830553459320.html
Logic suggests teams with less dead money will do better, since they can afford to pay more for current talent. But this year’s playoff teams had an average of $11.1 million in dead money, $3.3 million more than the average non-playoff team. The Colts, Patriots and Texans were among the league’s top five dead-money leaders.
This year’s Colts went 11-5 despite a league-leading $38.6 million in dead money, which is more than half of the $75 million the team is paying to its active, non-injured players.
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Colts had such a good draft too, that plays a big factor in their success
March 12th, 2013 at 7:38 pm
turn and burn baby!
I’m going to laugh when we go 6-10 or 8-8 with some hungry no names!
March 12th, 2013 at 7:38 pm
I’ve just been signed to play FS for the Raiders.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:38 pm
How about this – the Las Vegas Raiders!
March 12th, 2013 at 7:38 pm
Goodson flying out to cinci – will likely be gone too. I was never sold on him anyway – we need a big back.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:38 pm
MR at his finest spewing sh1t about the Raiders 24/7
March 12th, 2013 at 7:39 pm
Ha ha ha!!! You said a funny! Winston wants the same kind of money Reggie just refused to give Bryant.
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which is why winston doesn’t have a contract yet. jeez it’s like talking to 7th graders in here sometimes.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:39 pm
Jennings
March 12th, 2013 at 7:39 pm
I hope we do sign Kauluka Muaiva…..I liked him in college as he was every where and led that USC team in tackles….He was every where against us last year…over achiever…
March 12th, 2013 at 7:39 pm
raidertbone Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:38 pm
How about this – the Las Vegas Raiders!
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Better than LA.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:39 pm
mikeschoice Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:38 pm
turn and burn baby!
I’m going to laugh when we go 6-10 or 8-8 with some hungry no names!
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Hey the A’s do it every year.
Give me a team of hungry overachievers vs a team of overpaid ‘athletes’ who already got ‘paid’..
March 12th, 2013 at 7:40 pm
Hey hey hey, settle down everyone…….
Lets stick to the important issues.
Now what kinda syrup does everyone want on their pancakes?
March 12th, 2013 at 7:40 pm
Goodson flying out to cinci – will likely be gone too. I was never sold on him anyway – we need a big back.
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we have one his name is marcel reece! he proved it last year. no more FB for him IMO
March 12th, 2013 at 7:40 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:35 pm
Maybe Reggie wants to extend Houston’s contract because they guy will be a FA next year, not a bad Idea
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Why wasn’t this done with Bryant?
Why was Wheeler only signed for 1 year?
Why was Brisiel given so much money and then kept?
Why was Branch given like $9 mil per year by Reggie?
March 12th, 2013 at 7:40 pm
1960AutumnWind Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:34 pm
Gdog
How do you know if he does not play his players. Until recently we have not had any cap to pay players who play well or not well. One thing he is not doing which I like, is getting into bidding wars on the 1st day of FA even if the FA is one of ours.
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How do I know he won’t pay his players??
Bryant left for CLEVELAND! A highly rated YOUNG lineman! Not some over the hill has-been on his last leg. Do you know how hard it is to develop good young talent on the d-line???
Good gawd man…
March 12th, 2013 at 7:40 pm
Believe it or not, I don’t think we’ll have the worst team int he league next year, even with a lot of young talent – check out the Jets!!
March 12th, 2013 at 7:40 pm
Pcraider Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:40 pm
Hey hey hey, settle down everyone…….
Lets stick to the important issues.
Now what kinda syrup does everyone want on their pancakes?
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Pffft, like we get any pancakes…
March 12th, 2013 at 7:41 pm
KoolKell Says:
Gdog
Is Palmer still starting?
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Why not? Paying him partly explains the cuts. No shake ups on the offensive side, and the defensive hasn’t been tearing it up. With a GM and HC defensively minded, maybe they have a plan.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:41 pm
Goodson flying out to cinci – will likely be gone too. I was never sold on him anyway – we need a big back.
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we have one his name is marcel reece! he proved it last year. no more FB for him IMO
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**although he can be a hybrid FB/RB too
March 12th, 2013 at 7:41 pm
All these teams that are spending money wildly will have to restructure these contracts. There is krazy money being thrown around. I like Reggie’s plan get mid level FA and build through the draft.
A lot of people have said it, when have you seen the Steelers, Packers, Patriots reach for FA. We had done it for years and got us no where.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:41 pm
The BIGGEST problem that I have with the moves is it is one year too late. I get that we were one game from winning the AFC West, and Reggie probably needed to get adjusted with the organization and bringing in a coach and soothe the fanbase who felt that they were one game away from the playoffs in 2011. The truth is that the division was amongst the worst in the NFL then. More cuts should have happened LAST YEAR. Shuffle in a bunch of undrafted FA (ala Seattle a couple of years ago) and see who would stick. If we would have won two games versus four, really in the big picture, does it matter that much? Maybe we would have had $50 Million in dead money by cutting all of the fat last year. Now we are one year behind in rebuilding. Dennis Allen – who knows how good of a coach he might be because the hand he is dealt, I doubt that he will survive long enough for the turn around.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:41 pm
yea folks give Reggie a little bit.
you really want him to go after all the high profile FA’s on the hour of FA?
you all really think he’s going to just let players go and not replace them? Bryant and Wheeler will be gone too
you all think Newsome is sweatin that Kruger, Ed Reed(probably) Ray Lewis, Boldin, Ellerbe aren’t going to be back? no he trusts in his judgements. is he scrambling to replace them RIGHT THIS MOMENT? Reggie is doing good by standing pat the first day.
like i said above, if he fails to do ANYTHING in the next months and we’re left with a bunch of crapola like last year… then continues to draft ‘high character kids’ instead of football players, then i’ll call for his head.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:41 pm
222.nycraider Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:37 pm
Edward Teach Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:35 pm
173.nycraider Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:29 pm
Edward Teach Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:27 pm
153.nycraider Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:25 pm
reggie is building for the future ..agreed. when you do nothing in the present, your only hope is the future
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When you are building for the future you ARE doing something in the present.
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the word building means to develop or add. reggie has done neither
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You can’t pour the foundation or buy the lumber if your checkbook is overdrawn. You have to get what you can with the resources you have until you can afford to buy the materials. Then you can start building.
Is that better?
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16 mil under the cap isnt overdrawn..hows that
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We’ve been 16 million under the cap for less than 24 hours. The money spent today is stupid, and will bite vitrually every team that spent it right on the ass.
Try and think it through, bro. Reggie is being patient and not spending stupidly right out of the gate. This is a good thing.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:42 pm
Chris in NY Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:35 pm
Can’t believe how many Reggie apologists there still are who are now crawling out of the mud to defend “their guy.”
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Dude your expectations are way out of whack. The ONLY team in worse shape than we are is the Jets. Why is there all this talk about trading their best player Revis? Because they can’t afford to keep him. You guys all want to get rid of Palmer. Just imagine if we had waaaay more money tied up in Sanchez and Teblows. Bottom line tho is we are in serious trouble here. Almost everyone knows it but some of you who feel we should just go out and trade a third rounder for Adrian Peterson, and maybe a fourth rounder for Kapernick and we will be fine.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:42 pm
RE #234;
F the syrup – give me powdered sugar all day, baby!
March 12th, 2013 at 7:42 pm
Raidertbone Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:40 pm
Believe it or not, I don’t think we’ll have the worst team int he league next year, even with a lot of young talent – check out the Jets!!
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It is a 3 team race between us, the Jags, and the Jets.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:42 pm
Reggie is proving with out a doubt he doesn’t know what to do. Better coaches produce better results. Might as well open a direct line with waste management so they can transport
Green Bays dumpsters straight to Oakland.
Btw, what sense does it make keeping Palmer? Just wondering.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:42 pm
the raiders players played hard last year, but they sucked. you need some talent to be successful
March 12th, 2013 at 7:42 pm
Chris in NY Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:40 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:35 pm
Maybe Reggie wants to extend Houston’s contract because they guy will be a FA next year, not a bad Idea
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Why wasn’t this done with Bryant?
Why was Wheeler only signed for 1 year?
Why was Brisiel given so much money and then kept?
Why was Branch given like $9 mil per year by Reggie?
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Last year we kept our best defender from 10 on the team and he didn’t play that well, and you guys want Reg’s head, and complaining about paying him that much money, now you guys want, 3rd or 4th best guys to be paid like superstars, but when they don’t pan out, ask for his head again, He can never win with you guys
March 12th, 2013 at 7:43 pm
Why wasn’t this done with Bryant? — not worth it
Why was Wheeler only signed for 1 year? — was unproven
Why was Brisiel given so much money and then kept? — took a pay cut so point is nihil
Why was Branch given like $9 mil per year by Reggie? — because he’s a baller when healthy
March 12th, 2013 at 7:43 pm
Remind me how are we supposed to build this juggernaut of a team with DA steering the ship? You know the guy that pretended that he was prepared with a back-up long snapper on his NFL HC debut.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:43 pm
So many happy fans that our team is being completely gutted. I don’t think this regime can pick their noses, let alone quality players. I hope I’m wrong, but I have zero faith they know what they’re doing.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:43 pm
irjonny Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:39 pm
Ha ha ha!!! You said a funny! Winston wants the same kind of money Reggie just refused to give Bryant.
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which is why winston doesn’t have a contract yet. jeez it’s like talking to 7th graders in here sometimes.
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Hey, I wanted Winston too… but good gawd man. I have ZERO confidence he will sign him. I will give you kudos if he does sign… I hope you aren’t holding your breath!
Reggie likes to dumpster dive and give one year contracts!!
All the good players love those!!
March 12th, 2013 at 7:43 pm
Waive Palmer….start Pryor.
Pryor is our best QB, and Reece is our best running back.
15 year old Dennis Allen could not figure that out.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:44 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:42 pm
trade a third rounder for Adrian Peterson, and maybe a fourth rounder for Kapernick and we will be fine.
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Are those offers on the table? Because I’m in!
March 12th, 2013 at 7:44 pm
Jesus Christ, it’s infuriating reading some of the moronic comments by some of you. You can’t even judge Reggie yet, he hasn’t had a chance to do ANYTHING! His first pick last year was a 3rd rounder (thanks Hue and Al). He walked into the worst financial situation in the league, with maybe the exception of the Jets. I mean seriously, how can you judge him for trying to unwind all of Al’s senile decisions? What a joke. Look, he hasn’t been here long enough for me to say he’s done a good job. He also doesn’t warrant any criticism for some of the tough, but sensible moves he’s made. At the end of the day, I am looking at track record. What he did in Green Bay as their head of personnel is what gives me hope. Certainly more hope than I’ve had over the last painful decade.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:44 pm
Dunno Raider
Mark Davis is proving without a doubt he doesn’t know what to do. Better GMs produce better results.
There. Fixed it for you.
Pin the blame where it belongs, on the owner.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:44 pm
I’ll wait until the draft to judge this team , you guys can continue with your doom and gloom because we didn’t over pay for some guys on first freaking day of the FA, this is why we were in salary cap mess, and you guys want to see us in salary cap mess again
March 12th, 2013 at 7:44 pm
patience grasshoppas…
March 12th, 2013 at 7:45 pm
Can we end the night on some positive note here?
Maybe a rumored visit by some decent FA? Hell just make it up if you have to.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:45 pm
Irjonny Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:43 pm
Why was Branch given like $9 mil per year by Reggie? — because he’s a baller when healthy
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Tyvon Branch?
March 12th, 2013 at 7:45 pm
From the get go Raiders should have just Cut Huff, DHB, Palmer, Tollefson, and Kelly. Not wait until the end of the damn day. They could of went in to FA $30+ under the cap and made “some moves”
Yeah keep blaming the cap Reggie you bum. It’s you.
Fire Reggie!
March 12th, 2013 at 7:45 pm
i swear, who in here didn’t want or at least flirt with the idea of these guys getting cut this offseason. it’s day one of FA people and we are potentially 23 mil under the cap. what more could you want? desmond bryant? comon he’s one player
March 12th, 2013 at 7:45 pm
Raidertbone Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:40 pm
Believe it or not, I don’t think we’ll have the worst team int he league next year, even with a lot of young talent – check out the Jets!!
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Wow. We’re trying to rationalize not being the worst team. Good job Reggie.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:46 pm
nycraider Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:36 pm
1960AutumnWind Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:31 pm
NycRaider
Sometime you have to clean out the closet before you reorganize it. I.E. make a mess to get things in order.
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i can respect that…but to me our closet is in order in 2013, no excuses. its time to move forward..16 mil under the cap is an opportunity to bring in 3 very good players. and there is still an opportunity to restructure others.
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I hear what you are saying. However I am heartend to hear that they tried to sign Wheeler and probably Bryant but did not match what they got in day one of FA.
I am a little concerned about cutting Huff. It only saved us 1.8 million. That did not sound like a cap move but a pure money move. If Mark has told Reggie to save real money on contracts this could mean trouble and not a rebuild. However it is possible that the Def Coaches just thought Huff was not good enough at FS or CB to keep. It is one thing to be versitle but to be bad at two positions instead of one is not helpful.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:46 pm
I think all these cuts are awesome , this team sucked with these over priced players anyway. I’d like to mention a few things though, imo we should trade Palmer for picks altho his current contract probably is not attractive to other teams.
Secondly If it were up to me I’d trade Mcfragile now ! trade him while teams still think he’s worth anything. Running back is one of the easiest positions to find in the draft, anyone would be better then him.
As I said last year, Mcfragile runs too upright which leads to injury from taking to many hits, plus he dosent have the hips or lateral quickness to change direction. What kind of running back cant change direction ? and he cant stay healthy.
My only concern is why RM waits so long in cutting players, he did the same thing last year.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:46 pm
” He has to pay some taxes on the team,”….
The dreaded NFL football team tax?
Are you in middle school?
With dumb people, every negative thing gets equated with taxes. It’s all some mysterious tax that rich guys pay.
Or… It’s some magic “deduction” that they have access to that the rest of us don’t.
“It’s a tax write-off”….
What idiots…
March 12th, 2013 at 7:46 pm
From the get go Raiders should have just Cut Huff, DHB, Palmer, Tollefson, and Kelly. Not wait until the end of the damn day. They could of went in to FA $30+ under the cap and made “some moves”
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we are 23 under right now. mcclain and palmer have trade value and no need to cut unless we need the money immediately for an imminent signing. whats the hurry?
March 12th, 2013 at 7:46 pm
16 mil under the cap. NICE!!!!!
Other than losing out on Bryant and Wheeler. This has been good.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:47 pm
Well job well done by MR and his minions making Real Raiders fans predict doom and gloom, good job MR, i admire your skills but you still sukk at life though
March 12th, 2013 at 7:47 pm
Wait until the dust settles people — way too many players are gettin’ way too much money right now — and we used to be on the wrong end of that! Stay the course Reggie-nator!
March 12th, 2013 at 7:47 pm
We may not win a game next year.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:48 pm
Wow. We’re trying to rationalize not being the worst team. .
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sounds familiar…oh yeah i’ve heard that every year for a decade. at least this year is starting differently
March 12th, 2013 at 7:48 pm
In all honesty, people that say Raider fans are idiots only have to look here to validate their opinion.
It makes me sad…..
March 12th, 2013 at 7:48 pm
The only reason I don’t want to cut/trade Palmer is my fear that Reggie will draft Geno.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:48 pm
Agreed post 273.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:48 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:42 pm
Chris in NY Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:40 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:35 pm
Maybe Reggie wants to extend Houston’s contract because they guy will be a FA next year, not a bad Idea
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Why wasn’t this done with Bryant?
Why was Wheeler only signed for 1 year?
Why was Brisiel given so much money and then kept?
Why was Branch given like $9 mil per year by Reggie?
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Last year we kept our best defender from 10 on the team and he didn’t play that well, and you guys want Reg’s head, and complaining about paying him that much money, now you guys want, 3rd or 4th best guys to be paid like superstars, but when they don’t pan out, ask for his head again, He can never win with you guys
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I never thought Branch was that great. I’ve said he should be replaced by Mitchell at a much cheaper cost for a few years.
To me, Bryant was our best defensive player. He was young. And we just let him walk for slightly more than what Reggie doled out to Brisiel last year and less than Branch is making.
Total disaster.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:49 pm
We may not win a game next year? Oh Wheeler and Desmond where worth 4 wins? LMAO this guy
March 12th, 2013 at 7:49 pm
OneNation Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:44 pm
Jesus Christ, it’s infuriating reading some of the moronic comments by some of you. You can’t even judge Reggie yet, he hasn’t had a chance to do ANYTHING! His first pick last year was a 3rd rounder (thanks Hue and Al). He walked into the worst financial situation in the league, with maybe the exception of the Jets. I mean seriously, how can you judge him for trying to unwind all of Al’s senile decisions? What a joke. Look, he hasn’t been here long enough for me to say he’s done a good job. He also doesn’t warrant any criticism for some of the tough, but sensible moves he’s made. At the end of the day, I am looking at track record. What he did in Green Bay as their head of personnel is what gives me hope. Certainly more hope than I’ve had over the last painful decade.
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so true..2012 the year of the excuse..except how do you explain his decision with franchising branch then giving him a long term contract , or briesel, or seymour which really hurts us big time. or his restructuring of Palmer. Reggie has made more mistakes than good moves. when the negatives are greater than the positives , you get failure. Reggie has alot to prove in 2013. its not over, but he’s not off to a good start
March 12th, 2013 at 7:49 pm
Jackasspuria Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:44 pm
Dunno Raider
Mark Davis is proving without a doubt he doesn’t know what to do. Better GMs produce better results.
There. Fixed it for you.
Pin the blame where it belongs, on the owner.
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Gotcha. That explains why Reggie was hired. Marks only criteria for the job was he fires Hue.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:50 pm
Whoknows Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:43 pm
Remind me how are we supposed to build this juggernaut of a team with DA steering the ship?
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Remind me how are we supposed to build this juggernaut of a team with Mark Davis steering the ship?
March 12th, 2013 at 7:50 pm
would be nice to see us pick up Nnamdi again
March 12th, 2013 at 7:50 pm
The Briesel deal is still mind boggling
March 12th, 2013 at 7:50 pm
Bryant wasn’t our best player, it was Houston who’s only making 1 M this year, but Reggie will give him some decent contract for much better play
March 12th, 2013 at 7:50 pm
aig-raiders Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:46 pm
16 mil under the cap. NICE!!!!!
Other than losing out on Bryant and Wheeler. This has been good.
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Yea… Reggie can sign 16 players all with one million dollar, one year contracts!
That ALWAYS works.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:50 pm
Cleveland Browns give this man $34 million dollars……
http://i.imgur.com/93aiBbq.jpg
March 12th, 2013 at 7:51 pm
Gdog Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:50 pm
aig-raiders Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:46 pm
16 mil under the cap. NICE!!!!!
Other than losing out on Bryant and Wheeler. This has been good.
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Yea… Reggie can sign 16 players all with one million dollar, one year contracts!
That ALWAYS works.
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LOL
March 12th, 2013 at 7:51 pm
Kirk Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:50 pm
Cleveland Browns give this man $34 million dollars……
http://i.imgur.com/93aiBbq.jpg
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Doesn’t look like a Harvard alumni
March 12th, 2013 at 7:51 pm
Aig
Nnamdi is going to a guaranteed playoff team for a small contract. He hss never been on a winning team
March 12th, 2013 at 7:52 pm
GUESS WHAT!
wheeler and bryant came to OAKLAND out of nowhere and were 1st day big time free agent signings! hmmm if i were greg jennings or eric winston i might not be so shy to play here anymore. this isn’t where careers come to die anymore. everything today was positive
March 12th, 2013 at 7:52 pm
browns gave him $15M…….thats all thats guaranteed…..who knows if he’ll ever see the rest
March 12th, 2013 at 7:52 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:50 pm
Bryant wasn’t our best player, it was Houston who’s only making 1 M this year, but Reggie will give him some decent contract for much better play
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Based on what?
Houston and Bryant had the exact same PFF rating, and Reggie let him walk to CLEVELAND of all places!!
Al is rolling in his grave!
March 12th, 2013 at 7:52 pm
Nnamdi should go to the Pats.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:53 pm
Severeraiderz Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:51 pm
Aig
Nnamdi is going to a guaranteed playoff team for a small contract. He hss never been on a winning team
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what do you mean….he was on the dream team
March 12th, 2013 at 7:53 pm
16 mil under the cap. NICE!!!!!
Other than losing out on Bryant and Wheeler. This has been good.
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23 mil if we decide to spread the huff and dhb hits over 2 years. we have that option
March 12th, 2013 at 7:54 pm
Gdog Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:52 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:50 pm
Bryant wasn’t our best player, it was Houston who’s only making 1 M this year, but Reggie will give him some decent contract for much better play
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Based on what?
Houston and Bryant had the exact same PFF rating, and Reggie let him walk to CLEVELAND of all places!!
Al is rolling in his grave!
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Yeah ofcourse Al’s mind boggling FA SPlashes and his mind boggling player Resignings were always taking us to the promised land from 03-11
March 12th, 2013 at 7:54 pm
hilarious man… where are all these new troll names coming from to talk sh!t within hours of the new league year? i’m going to laugh if Reggie does bring in some good players, because most of the names will disappear.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:54 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:51 pm
Kirk Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:50 pm
Cleveland Browns give this man $34 million dollars……
http://i.imgur.com/93aiBbq.jpg
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Doesn’t look like a Harvard alumni
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One of the best mug shots ever.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:54 pm
the Raiders are flush with approximately $16 million in cap space for 2013, even though they have an astonishing $32 million in dead money — money accounted for on players no longer on the roster.
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sweet!
keep up the good work Reggie
gotta say I love BigMac. none of today’s moves surprised me. DHB, Huff, Tollefson … losing Bryant & Wheeler in FA
I suspect Goodson, Myers & Lechler will be gone in Day 2 – maybe even Seymour
glad to hear P Adams was retained for peanuts
March 12th, 2013 at 7:54 pm
Severe,
I heard ya but I wouldnt be surprised if he ended up here again. He never wanted to leave. Al just didnt give him a contract. Some said he was overrated and some appreciated his work. We will see. I’m a fan of Nnamdi and would love to see him back here. Better than what we have out there now.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:54 pm
Houston and Bryant had the exact same PFF rating, and Reggie let him walk to CLEVELAND of all places!!
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let’s not forget bryant was a backup until mid season
March 12th, 2013 at 7:54 pm
People on this blog just love to pile on – whether it was Al, Hue, DA, JaBlow-me, SloMac, ReggieMac, CP3, or a host of other highly-paid and unmotivated wussies who did the silver and black more damage than credibility. There, I’ve said it and I’m going to bed (East Coast). At least when I wake up in the morning, it will be a relief to know we didn’t break the bank on someone who absolutely wasn’t worth it … not YET, anyway!! Later, my Silver and Black brethren …
March 12th, 2013 at 7:54 pm
Jackasspuria Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:50 pm
Whoknows Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:43 pm
Remind me how are we supposed to build this juggernaut of a team with DA steering the ship?
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Remind me how are we supposed to build this juggernaut of a team with Mark Davis steering the ship?
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Remind me how are we supposed to build this juggernaut of a team with reggie steering the ship?
March 12th, 2013 at 7:54 pm
houston deserves bryants contract bar none. hope he gets it tomorrow
March 12th, 2013 at 7:54 pm
Today we parted with 3 of our 4 best defensive players on a defense that was already undermanned.
Good luck with that.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:55 pm
Just cuz Reggie is gonna be 30 plus mil under the cap doesn’t mean schiit. What top level players can he get. I suppose he can fill the cupboards with scrubs. If he even spends at all.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:55 pm
Free agent RB Mike Goodson will visit the Bengals on Wednesday.
Goodson is getting more play than most other free-agent running backs on the market. The Jets are also interested in him. Goodson would be a nice complement to BenJarvus Green-Ellis, adding the burst the “Law Firm” lacks. He could also replace free agent Brandon Tate on kick returns.
Related: Bengals
Source: Profootballtalk on NBC Sports
So it looks like we’ll be drafting a RB?
March 12th, 2013 at 7:55 pm
00tt00
I’m more concerned about Lloyd Christmas than Reggie McKenzie.
Dumb & Dumber is the owner — terrible haircut withstanding and has ultimate say.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:55 pm
raidertbone Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:54 pm
People on this blog just love to pile on – whether it was Al, Hue, DA, JaBlow-me, SloMac, ReggieMac, CP3, or a host of other highly-paid and unmotivated wussies who did the silver and black more damage than credibility. There, I’ve said it and I’m going to bed (East Coast). At least when I wake up in the morning, it will be a relief to know we didn’t break the bank on someone who absolutely wasn’t worth it … not YET, anyway!! Later, my Silver and Black brethren …
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That’s because MR and his minions are still alive on this blog
March 12th, 2013 at 7:56 pm
Bryant was our best defensive player, IMO. Been saying so for months.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:56 pm
Irjonny Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:53 pm
16 mil under the cap. NICE!!!!!
Other than losing out on Bryant and Wheeler. This has been good.
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23 mil if we decide to spread the huff and dhb hits over 2 years. we have that option
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Lets hope we don’t. Need something to look forward to in 2014.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:56 pm
Irjonny
I think getting into bidding wars on day one of FA is what got the Raiders into trouble in the first place.
There is no hurry to cut Palmer or Kelly unless they have some built in deadline with their contracts that force the issue. Every day we keep them our leverage improves and the ability to trade becomes higher if a team has an injury or something. If they wait a team may not get a DT in the draft like they tought they would and may expend a draft pic for Kelly and assume his contract. Same for Palmer.
We have money now to go after people where the FA pool is strong. Namely CB and FS and LB. Hopefully we will get value and depth that we simply did not have last year.
If the season started today and we just filled out our roster with scrubs we whould probably win less than 4 games next year. However we can make up some ground with the cap room we now have. Maimi is largely done at this point and will have no cap for years to come unless they cut some of their star hires next year that they picked up today and then they will have the dead money instead of the Raiders.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:56 pm
my vote right now is for Dansby, and go get Jarvis Jones at #3 if his neck checks out. that right there will be a big step in the right direction.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:56 pm
00tt00 Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:54 pm
Jackasspuria Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:50 pm
Whoknows Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:43 pm
Remind me how are we supposed to build this juggernaut of a team with DA steering the ship?
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Remind me how are we supposed to build this juggernaut of a team with Mark Davis steering the ship?
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Remind me how are we supposed to build this juggernaut of a team with reggie steering the ship?
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Exactly
March 12th, 2013 at 7:56 pm
xraided Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:54 pm
hilarious man… where are all these new troll names coming from to talk sh!t within hours of the new league year? i’m going to laugh if Reggie does bring in some good players, because most of the names will disappear.
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you can thank MR. WHiner MR
March 12th, 2013 at 7:56 pm
Stablersbeard Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:46 pm
” He has to pay some taxes on the team,”….
The dreaded NFL football team tax?
Are you in middle school?
With dumb people, every negative thing gets equated with taxes. It’s all some mysterious tax that rich guys pay.
Or… It’s some magic “deduction” that they have access to that the rest of us don’t.
“It’s a tax write-off”….
What idiots…
…..
It is a 700 billion dollar estate you fktard
March 12th, 2013 at 7:56 pm
Today we parted with 3 of our 4 best defensive players on a defense that was already undermanned.
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3 best players on the worst D in the league every year. What exactly did we lose again?
March 12th, 2013 at 7:57 pm
00tt00 Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:54 pm
Jackasspuria Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:50 pm
Whoknows Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:43 pm
Remind me how are we supposed to build this juggernaut of a team with DA steering the ship?
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Remind me how are we supposed to build this juggernaut of a team with Mark Davis steering the ship?
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Remind me how are we supposed to build this juggernaut of a team with reggie steering the ship?
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Remind me how we are gonna build this juggernaut of a team with less than 15,000 fans at each home game.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:57 pm
Million lol
March 12th, 2013 at 7:57 pm
Clowney
March 12th, 2013 at 7:57 pm
Staying out of the FA frenzy makes sense if you look at it from this view.
1. If your FA players are picked up by other teams, you may qualify for draft compensation.
2. If you do get FA, and some are good players, then they count against your compensatory picks.
3. FA are generally older vets and will not be around or will be beyond their prime. So, stop gap is out of the question unless to protect your franchise QB.
4. Getting UDFA or players from waivers will not effect your drafts. Pick young players that will be playing 3-5 years from now (backup/starters) caliber.
Question is, how many can you really get? I think Reggie is trying to get a lot of numbers for the 2014 draft.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:58 pm
thank you 1960AW
there is great strategy in keeping Palmer and Kelly. he’ll probably wait until after the draft so teams won’t know where is head at on draft day. good to keep folks in the dark, and the players involved in this waiting game will feel the pressure day after day.
good points
March 12th, 2013 at 7:58 pm
How many ex-Raiders in the last 10 yrs starred on another team? The only guy I can think of is CWood. That’s 1 dude in the last 10 yrs.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:58 pm
NycRaider
Houston and Branch are better defenders than Bryant in my opinion. Wheeler might of been better as well and he did get a little more money than Bryant which may bear that out.
March 12th, 2013 at 7:58 pm
I don’t know, how much are the raiders worth these days, maybe it was only a $200 million dollar estate?
March 12th, 2013 at 7:59 pm
R8eray Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:55 pm
Free agent RB Mike Goodson will visit the Bengals on Wednesday.
Goodson is getting more play than most other free-agent running backs on the market. The Jets are also interested in him. Goodson would be a nice complement to BenJarvus Green-Ellis, adding the burst the “Law Firm” lacks. He could also replace free agent Brandon Tate on kick returns.
Related: Bengals
Source: Profootballtalk on NBC Sports
So it looks like we’ll be drafting a RB?
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GO REGGIE……..lucky we traded a power OL for a running back with one year left on his contract because we were switching to a ZBS
March 12th, 2013 at 8:00 pm
Whoknows
I’m more concerned about Lloyd Christmas than Reggie McKenzie.
Dumb & Dumber is the owner — terrible haircut withstanding and has ultimate say.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:00 pm
Doesn’t our Raider team in Europe have some guys that could come over and play for a dime on the dollar?
March 12th, 2013 at 8:00 pm
aig-raiders
C-Wood is probably it.
If he can maintain and continue is rapid ascent, Stevie Brown may be added to the list.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:01 pm
Reggie suxs azz in coaching picks and FA (so far) but his draft class was ‘ok’ considering it started in the 4th round. It was the *terrible* FA’s he signed last year that were most troubling (and trading murph, campbell for nothing and cutting barksdale when we were so thin at rt).
The upside is that we’ll see all the 2012 picks get a chance this year for serious PT.
With an offseason juicing – er… I mean workout program (lets call it the ‘Niners plan’), the 2012 draft should look better in 2013.
Burris will be better if he gains 15-20 lbs of muscle esp in upper body and arms, get some mean looking tatts and move inside. He’s the defensive leader in 2013 for sure. Smart kid plays with heart. He’s like a Romo or Mathews waiting to happen.
Bilukidi actually looked pretty good when he was in there – he could def use some muscle, lose a bit of the soft fat, and work on different moves but he definitely has the size/speed/strength. He’s a likely starter this season which is good to see. Him and Houston could wreck some havoc.
Crawford is an interesting specimen too – he looks mean (and crazy) – he just needs practice and polish – and a chance. He has the look and size/speed and was a beast in college considering he’s new to the game, they just need to get him ready to be a factor *this* year as we’re going to need him.
Criner is the real deal – he could end up being the jewel of our 2012 draft if he’s healthy and gets some quality PT now that dipsnit is gone. Criner is big, great hands and was super productive in college – and should only get better. Looking to see him get healthy, work on his speed and routes and be a factor this season.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:01 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:58 pm
How many ex-Raiders in the last 10 yrs starred on another team? The only guy I can think of is CWood. That’s 1 dude in the last 10 yrs.
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kevin booth wwas let go last time we switched to a ZBS and he went on to be the starting OL with the giants and collected 2 SB rings
March 12th, 2013 at 8:01 pm
The Raiders are like the subprime mortgage fiasco. In both cases nothing could be achieved until bottom was reached. Reggie would probably admit that his biggest regret is not cleaning out the overpriced mid level talent last season so we could limit the hit to one crappy season instead of two. But how could he be expected to get up to speed quickly enough to pull the trigger on such massive cuts? I think he realizes that if he’s going to rebuild, he needs to send a message that everyone is expendable and he’s not going to get jacked up by the likes of Philip Wheeler. I like this guy.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:01 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:56 pm
xraided Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:54 pm
hilarious man… where are all these new troll names coming from to talk sh!t within hours of the new league year? i’m going to laugh if Reggie does bring in some good players, because most of the names will disappear.
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you can thank MR. WHiner MR
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that would be sad if they were all one guy haha
March 12th, 2013 at 8:02 pm
Will we even have 53 players by camp time?
March 12th, 2013 at 8:02 pm
50/50 chance Romac stays imo. You don’t cut guys like huff to save 1.6 million just to throw 3.6 million away by cutting another guy. Unless something is done with the contracts of CP or TK, we could get another year of McClain
March 12th, 2013 at 8:03 pm
aig-raiders Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:56 pm
Today we parted with 3 of our 4 best defensive players on a defense that was already undermanned.
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3 best players on the worst D in the league every year. What exactly did we lose again?
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- Bryant: A budding stud defensive lineman who can literally play probably any of 7 positions on the d-line in a 3-4 or 4-3.
- Huff: A very good safety who can also play CB.
- Wheeler: Our best linebacker.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:03 pm
Xraided
I know pst #324 is sarcasm but teams and agents negotiate to get terms to force a team to release a player at a given time. If that clause is not in there maybe the team has to pay a little more for it. Having the abiility to hold on the players is a contractual business thing. The Raiders have value there and you can say release them now and be “classy” I say that is just being soft and giving up an advantage. You lose options like what if you in the end decide you want to keep Kelly because there were injuries to other DTs or we did not get good pics there? We just lost our ability to deal and lost value.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:03 pm
CWood, Kevin Booth, and Paul McQuistan. Only CWood is the star player. The other 2 are legit starters. So 3 guys in the last 10 yrs out of say 200 (20 per year). yes we lost some guys. But imagine losing the best guys on the Charlotte hornets or another perenial doormat. We’re finally getting our cap space under control.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:04 pm
aig-raiders Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:56 pm
Today we parted with 3 of our 4 best defensive players on a defense that was already undermanned.
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3 best players on the worst D in the league every year. What exactly did we lose again?
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Three players that need to be replaced by at least comparable players by a GM that relies on dumpster diving.
Defensive stats don’t lie… you either make the play or you don’t. You make the tackle or you don’t. You bat the ball down or you don’t.
We now have a grand total of ONE defensive player on roster with substantial PFF stats.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:04 pm
Here’s hoping that wheeler, Bryant, myers, Lechler, and all of our free agents go on to have great years…. Tons of comp picks in 2014!
March 12th, 2013 at 8:04 pm
Reggie suxs azz in coaching picks and FA (so far) but his draft class was ‘ok’ considering it started in the 4th round. It was the *terrible* FA’s he signed last year that were most troubling (and trading murph, campbell for nothing and cutting barksdale when we were so thin at rt).
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there was no reason to cut DVD last year either considering the piss poor replacements we had….he developing on the steelers
March 12th, 2013 at 8:04 pm
Haven’t posted anything on here years. Today’s great news warrants the effort of me putting something up on the board to show my gratitude . THANK YOU REGGIE FOR CUTTING THE BIGGEST BUST IN RAIDER HISTORY MICHAEL HUFF!
I have all the confidence in the world in all your decisions going forward for the simple fact you cut ties with that over paid no tackling no covering over hyped piece of garbage. Thank you so much. The future is much brighter because you are here.
-Pingu
March 12th, 2013 at 8:04 pm
50/50 chance Romac stays imo. You don’t cut guys like huff to save 1.6 million just to throw 3.6 million away by cutting another guy. Unless something is done with the contracts of CP or TK, we could get another year of McClain
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huff and DHB got cut today bnecause they were class act raiders. we did them a favor. not the same for others IMO
we get more cap money if we wait to cut mcclain and kelly and palmer etc after june 1st. unless a trade comes up
March 12th, 2013 at 8:05 pm
Huff is not good at anything. Sorry, but he can’t cover anything but the occasional te. He takes bad angles. He makes no plays. Huff loss is a bonus.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:05 pm
1960AutumnWind Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 8:03 pm
Xraided
I know pst #324 is sarcasm but teams and agents negotiate to get terms to force a team to release a player at a given time. If that clause is not in there maybe the team has to pay a little more for it. Having the abiility to hold on the players is a contractual business thing. The Raiders have value there and you can say release them now and be “classy” I say that is just being soft and giving up an advantage. You lose options like what if you in the end decide you want to keep Kelly because there were injuries to other DTs or we did not get good pics there? We just lost our ability to deal and lost value.
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no man it wasn’t.. swear to god haha
it is a good idea to hold onto TK and Palmer until after the draft… so teams don’t know which way Reggie is goin.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:05 pm
severeraiderz Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 8:02 pm
50/50 chance Romac stays imo. You don’t cut guys like huff to save 1.6 million just to throw 3.6 million away by cutting another guy. Unless something is done with the contracts of CP or TK, we could get another year of McClain
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That will be the absolute icing on the cake if this moron lets all these guys walk and then keeps McClain. LMAO!
I’d be shocked if that were to happen though.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:06 pm
Dunno Raider Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 8:02 pm
Will we even have 53 players by camp time?
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There are plenty of guys who will go undrafted.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:06 pm
I remember not too long ago reading on here posts from various people, most of which are regulars here, about how this team needed to be gutted and burned to the ground. Hell, even I thought at the time this needed to be done. We all could see that the players were not playing like they even cared, and blame was thrown around to both the players and coaches evenly.
Well, now we got both our wishes. We have basically a whole new coaching staff, and the fire sale has began. I assume we all realized what would happen next. We now have a team that has more holes than swiss cheese and at the moment, seems like a non factor for 2013. We called for a rebuilding process, and that is exactly what we are getting. Thinking success would come right after. However, that is not reality. But living in this microwave age of ours, we want things to happen now. Not a year or two or three from now, but NOW.
The truth is, and I think deep down we all realize this, is that this team needed to go through what is about to happen. A purge. A gutting so gruesome that would make any Romero movie look like a sunny day with rainbows and unicorns. The massacre has began in Oakland, the blood has been spilled, and there’s guts and gore all over alameda. The house is ablaze, and they are letting it burn.
But believe you me. Just like the majestic phoenix, we will rise from the ashes and soar high again. Let’s just hope it happens sooner than later.
GO RAIDERS!
March 12th, 2013 at 8:06 pm
severeraiderz Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 8:02 pm
50/50 chance Romac stays imo. You don’t cut guys like huff to save 1.6 million just to throw 3.6 million away by cutting another guy. Unless something is done with the contracts of CP or TK, we could get another year of McClain
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I’ve said the same thing earlier and was treated as the village idiot.
Who knows though with Reggie… it could literally be based on a coin flip.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:06 pm
Mcfadden20. Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 6:48 pm
rediaR Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 6:48 pm
Should we give Clowny his Jersey now or do we have to wait the 13 months?
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We didn’t let go of any play maker? what r u even talking about?
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Analysts are saying our roster is “unfathomably bad”.
Read the tweets. They are basically saying we may very well be the worst team in organized sports history.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:06 pm
- Bryant: A budding stud defensive lineman who can literally play probably any of 7 positions on the d-line in a 3-4 or 4-3.
- Huff: A very good safety who can also play CB.
- Wheeler: Our best linebacker.
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Sure they are great compared to our current crop of line up but they were integral parts of a perenial doormat team. If you werent a Raider fan, you wouldnt think much of these guys…except maybe Bryant because he is a young up and comer.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:07 pm
This team is empty. If they are going to cut then cut all the big “out of whack” contracts. Do a REAL rebuild.
No way anybody will trade for Palmer so just stop that talk.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:07 pm
Dakota
Huff and DHB are gone… i’m not worried about it.
we go get a true #1 WR to go with Streater and a healthy Moore back in this vertical offense to go along with DMC and Reece in the backfield, then i have some high hopes for this offense, no matter who the QB is.
i wonder if we moved back with BUF early and traded our #8 overall pick to snab up Victor Cruz?! survey says?!
March 12th, 2013 at 8:08 pm
Dakota Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 6:54 pm
Da is the perfect coach for this team…..he brings nothing to the table either.
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LOL! Post of the night.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:08 pm
So far great cuts.. now trade cp dmac and kelly..
March 12th, 2013 at 8:08 pm
All ive heard the last 5 years is the Raiders had the best defensive line in the AFC west and yet we sucked every one of those years.
hmmmmmmm ?????????????
glad we’re cleaning house. !!!!!!!!!
March 12th, 2013 at 8:08 pm
Lack of decision = lack of action. Cuts were random. No FA signing is deliberate. These are not your fathers raiders.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:08 pm
- Huff: A very good safety who can also play CB
I would dispute that. His game regressed over the last two years and while he did ok filling in he was not that good at CB. I thought he was an average FS that was good at covering TEs but often took bad angles and was a liability agianst the run and did not make very many big plays.
Cant disagree with Wheeler characterizaton but is that saying a lot? Do you really think Bryant can play NT that well? Do you think he is really a rush DE. I don’t think so! I wanted both those guys back and I am a little concerned about losing Huff but do you think they Bryant and Wheeler are worth 15 million in garunteed money -each?
March 12th, 2013 at 8:08 pm
We could get a 3rd rounder for the future HOF’er Carson Palmer.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:08 pm
post 358 exactly!!!!!
March 12th, 2013 at 8:09 pm
Bergstrom is a starter this year – might even be playing RT when its all said and done. He needs to get on the ‘Niner plan’ and be ready..
March 12th, 2013 at 8:09 pm
if Al was around, he’d make D Bryant the top paid DT in the league and you all know that.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:10 pm
00tt00 Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 8:04 pm
Reggie suxs azz in coaching picks and FA (so far) but his draft class was ‘ok’ considering it started in the 4th round. It was the *terrible* FA’s he signed last year that were most troubling (and trading murph, campbell for nothing and cutting barksdale when we were so thin at rt).
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there was no reason to cut DVD last year either considering the piss poor replacements we had….he developing on the steelers
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Exactly. Same with Bruce Campbell.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:11 pm
i wonder if we moved back with BUF early and traded our #8 overall pick to snab up Victor Cruz?! survey says?!
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um no thanks. i’ll take another trade back for more picks and take ogletree
March 12th, 2013 at 8:13 pm
Why is everyone upset our D was worst in Raider History last year most yards most points bring in all new yea they signed Adams but he was one guy I always seen giving his all….
March 12th, 2013 at 8:13 pm
361.KoolKell Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 8:08 pm
We could get a 3rd rounder for the future HOF’er Carson Palmer.
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Lol
March 12th, 2013 at 8:13 pm
its not about DHB or huff or any other player that has people upset…………I dont believe folks have the confidence in reggie, DA and gang to do this……..dont think they are qualified and they are the reason this is going to be worse thatn anyone predicted…….not because we are gutting the team….because we dont think the right guys are in place to rebuild it
March 12th, 2013 at 8:13 pm
1960AutumnWind Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 8:08 pm
- Huff: A very good safety who can also play CB
I would dispute that. His game regressed over the last two years and while he did ok filling in he was not that good at CB. I thought he was an average FS that was good at covering TEs but often took bad angles and was a liability agianst the run and did not make very many big plays.
Cant disagree with Wheeler characterizaton but is that saying a lot? Do you really think Bryant can play NT that well? Do you think he is really a rush DE. I don’t think so! I wanted both those guys back and I am a little concerned about losing Huff but do you think they Bryant and Wheeler are worth 15 million in garunteed money -each?
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Bryant was absolutely worth it. Two moves we haven’t even made yet — cutting McClain and TK — would’ve more than covered Bryant’s cap hit.
Now our best DT is Christo Bilukidi, who I actually like, but he’s a raw 6th round pick out of Georgia State. I don’t think we even have anyone to line up next to him.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:13 pm
We’re in demolition mode right now. Expect that for at least 2 more years. Mark will be fed up with it by then and our new GM and HC will begin to build a new Raider team. Keeping Palmer makes absolutely zero sense. He’ll be one angry bird by seasons end. 1-15 baby!
March 12th, 2013 at 8:13 pm
Analysts are saying our roster is “unfathomably bad”.
Read the tweets. They are basically saying we may very well be the worst team in organized sports history.
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Dude they were saying that all season with Wheeler, Bryant and Huff as well as DHB.
The real question is if Wheeler and Bryant cost 30 million guarunteed and DHB cost 10 million and Huff 8 million can we get 4 better players for say 48 million in garunteed money? I think you know the answer to that.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:13 pm
there was no reason to cut DVD last year either considering the piss poor replacements we had….he developing on the steelers
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say what? He was playing special teams for the Steelers. The dude is thin as a tooth pick. Campbell can’t even start for the panthers. Goodson provided more contribution last year than Campbell did. WTH.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:13 pm
We need football players high moter guys after season think we signed like 10 guys to check out keep bringing bodies in on D at least have a D that tries I believe our offence can score with a strong running game not here last year
March 12th, 2013 at 8:14 pm
We need to try and get a Harvin type deal for McFadden right now, while teams still have some cap space.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:15 pm
Breaking News:
Reggie McKenzie has petitioned the league to request that the Raiders play the 2013 season with a 15-man roster rather than the standard 53.
#ironmanfootball #joncondoftw
March 12th, 2013 at 8:15 pm
We are a perenial doormat. We been sucking the last 10 yrs if you havent notice. I have no problem with blowing this schytt up and do it right. Get rid of them all for all I care at this moment.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:16 pm
Dunno Raider Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 8:08 pm
Lack of decision = lack of action. Cuts were random. No FA signing is deliberate. These are not your fathers raiders.
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yep….everything that attracted me to the raiders as a kid is gone……..decades of enjoyment following a team and I see it slipping away
March 12th, 2013 at 8:16 pm
364.aig-raiders Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 8:09 pm
if Al was around, he’d make D Bryant the top paid DT in the league and you all know that.
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No question. Al might not have gotten it right the last ten years or so, but he certainly didn’t lack for entertainment value.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:17 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 8:13 pm
there was no reason to cut DVD last year either considering the piss poor replacements we had….he developing on the steelers
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say what? He was playing special teams for the Steelers. The dude is thin as a tooth pick. Campbell can’t even start for the panthers. Goodson provided more contribution last year than Campbell did. WTH.
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ok…so what do we have to show for it……….NOTHING
March 12th, 2013 at 8:17 pm
guys it’s day 1 of the league year. look at our free agents…if we had 2 more players in bryant and wheeler we would still be under the 53 man roster with no cap space. jesus!
March 12th, 2013 at 8:17 pm
Defensive lineman 1st round, secondary, then running back. I sure hope DA knows what he’s doing.
Looked lost last year.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:18 pm
Damn. All them pancakes really can mess you up.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:18 pm
I’m sorry, we’ve got a choice between Brandon Blair and Johnny Jones to line up alongside Bilukidi as our starting DTs. Who? Exactly.
LMAO at Art Shell Part II: GM Edition.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:19 pm
yep….everything that attracted me to the raiders as a kid is gone……..decades of enjoyment following a team and I see it slipping away
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no offense but what do you miss about the last decade+ of raider football?
March 12th, 2013 at 8:19 pm
Dunno Raider Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 8:13 pm
We’re in demolition mode right now. Expect that for at least 2 more years. Mark will be fed up with it by then and our new GM and HC will begin to build a new Raider team. Keeping Palmer makes absolutely zero sense. He’ll be one angry bird by seasons end. 1-15 baby!
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why expect it for 2 more years…..if thats the mode we are in then burn it down now….take all your cap hits this year and just let pryor run in circles
March 12th, 2013 at 8:19 pm
I think we will sign Brad Jones for MLB
March 12th, 2013 at 8:20 pm
Still available that I like: Aso, DRC, Barnett, Barein, Bennett, Garay, Winfield, Vollmer, Bradshaw, Branch, Winston, Anderson, Brown and some others
March 12th, 2013 at 8:20 pm
They better not fire DA next year after going 2-14. If we are going to suck might as well keep the guy who can make sure that happens, and maybe sometime in the next 5 drafts picking at #1 we will draft our manning/luck and that is when we should fire DA and hire a competent head coach.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:20 pm
aig-raiders
If Big Al were still signing checks Desmond Bryant would have been a $100 million defensive tackle with $50 million guaranteed.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:20 pm
Chris in NY Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 8:18 pm
I’m sorry, we’ve got a choice between Brandon Blair and Johnny Jones to line up alongside Bilukidi as our starting DTs. Who? Exactly.
LMAO at Art Shell Part II: GM Edition.
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lol
March 12th, 2013 at 8:21 pm
Michael Turner? Will come cheap – real cheap.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:21 pm
Irjonny Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 8:19 pm
yep….everything that attracted me to the raiders as a kid is gone……..decades of enjoyment following a team and I see it slipping away
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no offense but what do you miss about the last decade+ of raider football?
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the overhead projector
March 12th, 2013 at 8:21 pm
“Well That Escalated Quickly…”
March 12th, 2013 at 8:23 pm
Condo cut yet?
March 12th, 2013 at 8:23 pm
Special announcement for all Reggie Mac apologists out there:
With all due respect to the Reg/DA apologists, just because the dude is demolishing this franchise into the ground DOES NOT mean they know how to rebuild it. I would be shocked if they did. But rest assured good Raider bretheren, they don’t.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:24 pm
Irjonny Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 8:19 pm
yep….everything that attracted me to the raiders as a kid is gone……..decades of enjoyment following a team and I see it slipping away
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no offense but what do you miss about the last decade+ of raider football?
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the overhead projector
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lol awesome
March 12th, 2013 at 8:25 pm
Dunno Raider Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 8:23 pm
Special announcement for all Reggie Mac apologists out there:
With all due respect to the Reg/DA apologists, just because the dude is demolishing this franchise into the ground DOES NOT mean they know how to rebuild it. I would be shocked if they did. But rest assured good Raider bretheren, they don’t.
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Reggie’s plan is to secretly stay on the Packer’s mailing list and sneak off with their practice squad guys. In 4-5 years, we’ll be 6-10.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:25 pm
I stabbed a man with a trident
March 12th, 2013 at 8:25 pm
I just want to see some POSITIVE additions….
March 12th, 2013 at 8:25 pm
Dunno Raider Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 8:23 pm
Special announcement for all Reggie Mac apologists out there:
With all due respect to the Reg/DA apologists, just because the dude is demolishing this franchise into the ground DOES NOT mean they know how to rebuild it. I would be shocked if they did. But rest assured good Raider bretheren, they don’t.
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hilarious
March 12th, 2013 at 8:26 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 8:23 pm
Condo cut yet?
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Why not? Goethel can take over.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:26 pm
So far great cuts.. now trade cp dmac and kelly..
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co-signed, Marks Hair
we’re rebuilding. Most Raider fans don’t get that because we’re used to 50 years of Al Davis
trade #55 for a conditional 7th. trade Kelly for a 6th
trade Palmer & DMAC to the highest bidder, but we can hold on to them until we get an offer we like – perhaps on draft day
March 12th, 2013 at 8:26 pm
Nycraider Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:29 pm
Edward Teach Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:27 pm
153.nycraider Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:25 pm
reggie is building for the future ..agreed. when you do nothing in the present, your only hope is the future
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When you are building for the future you ARE doing something in the present.
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the word building means to develop or add. reggie has done neither
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The Shreg apologists don’t realize that.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:26 pm
Cut all the fat loose
March 12th, 2013 at 8:27 pm
Well with all the people overjoyed about losing three of our highest rated defensive players, it no longer is a surprise so many here want to dump Palmer!
The fans here WANT to lose! Its like its all they know.
Oh well. After I sober up tomorrow maybe I can look at this a great thing too!
We are eight new defensive starters away from a dynasty!
March 12th, 2013 at 8:27 pm
Guys: Drinks, Appetizers, Entree’s, and Deserts have been consumed….now we gotta pay the bill.
We all knew this day would come once Al was gone. Here it is. Were starting year two of a five/six year rebuild..Its a big Sh!t sandwich and we all gotta take a bite, but the future can be bright.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:27 pm
Chris in NY Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 8:26 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 8:23 pm
Condo cut yet?
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Why not? Goethel can take over.
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LMFAO
March 12th, 2013 at 8:27 pm
Perhaps all these moves are part of a much greater plan – Escape from Oakland with a pocket-full of cash. 2013 looks to be a terrible year. The tarp covered bleachers will NOT prevent blackouts and Raider management will scream poor-mouth to the Oakland & Alameda County powers only to be rebuffed when they want commitments on a new stadium. All the pieces will be in play for an authorized move out of Oakland to who knows where. I don’t think it will be a shared arrangement in Santa Clara or Los Angeles. Someone mentioned Las Vegas earlier and that could be a possibility. There’s certainly enough population and money around there to fund their own stadium. Play somewhere else (or here) for 2 years while the new stadium is built and viola, a new hot spot for an NFL team and what better place for future Super Bowl appearances. Yes, it’s all part of a master super plan to say adios amigo, we’re off to MUCH GREENER pastures.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:27 pm
In 2011 we had an offense that could compete with anybody, but needed an improved defense. 2 years later we have a gutted team with 16 mil in cap space. Great, that’ll make the 14 or 15 loses easier to take this year.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:28 pm
Demon Raider Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:34 pm
RM is a joke…. His draft class sucked outside of Burriss
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No he sucked too. The worst OLB in the league according to PFF. But we got Streeter, the classic Al Davis pickup.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:28 pm
This feels like the second coming of Charlie Finley, circa 1976! Can you say, Fire Sale!!!
March 12th, 2013 at 8:28 pm
I’m sorry, we’ve got a choice between Brandon Blair and Johnny Jones to line up alongside Bilukidi as our starting DTs. Who? Exactly.
LMAO at Art Shell Part II: GM Edition.
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lol @ Chris in NY
typical “the sky is falling” Raider fan.
there is like a 95% chance none of those 3 players even crack the 53 man roster
#campfodder
March 12th, 2013 at 8:28 pm
One man from every practice squad and we’re set
March 12th, 2013 at 8:28 pm
LTR Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 8:27 pm
In 2011 we had an offense that could compete with anybody, but needed an improved defense. 2 years later we have a gutted team with 16 mil in cap space. Great, that’ll make the 14 or 15 loses easier to take this year.
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Again the Shreg apologists don’t acknowledge that.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:28 pm
This years Raider draft we will be saying; what? who? really? why? your joking, right? WTF? who’s giving Reggie these scouting reports? we don’t need a fcking kicker. why? He’s a division III guy for cryin out loud. Must be Reggie’s guy.
Yes. Comments like these and more will be in every post.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:29 pm
Some cheap replacements for Bryant and Seymour’s spots –
SenDerrick Marks, DT, Titans. Age: 26.
SenDerrick Marks isn’t particularly good at anything, but he’s not really bad at anything either. He’s a serviceable starter.
Derek Landri, DT, Eagles. Age: 29.
Derek Landri is a solid rotational defensive tackle who can put pressure on the quarterback occasionally.
Alan Branch, DT, Seahawks. Age: 28.
Alan Branch is sort of a jack-of-all-trades defensive tackle. He has no glaring weaknesses and is at his best when stopping the run.
Ricky Jean-Francois, DE/DT, 49ers. Age: 26.
Ricky Jean-Francois handled himself well when inserted into the lineup in the wake of Justin Smith’s injury. He’s not much of a pass-rusher, but he contained the run well.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:29 pm
Turner is a bit injury prone, isn’t he?
March 12th, 2013 at 8:29 pm
409. You are off your rocker. The NFL will never have a team in Las Vegas.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:29 pm
I don’t understand how anyone can think we won’t be horrible next year. If/when we cut McClain and Kelly we will have to find at least 1 starting corner, a starting safety, 2 starting lbs, and 3 new dl on defense. Then we need a new rt, te, rb, and probably a guard and this is supposed to happen with 5 draft picks and picking up people like Ron bartell
March 12th, 2013 at 8:31 pm
Dunno Raider
Regardless of who the Raiders pick in the 1st round there will be those questions, no matter who they pick. Be it the best player available or the guy the Raiders liked, the pick will be viewed under a microscope.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:31 pm
I really like Alan Branch
March 12th, 2013 at 8:32 pm
407. Sure has been some horrible food and terrible tasting desserts. Why do we have to pay for the garbage we ate?
March 12th, 2013 at 8:32 pm
Down for the clown
March 12th, 2013 at 8:32 pm
Dunno Raider Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 8:23 pm
Special announcement for all Reggie Mac apologists out there:
With all due respect to the Reg/DA apologists, just because the dude is demolishing this franchise into the ground DOES NOT mean they know how to rebuild it. I would be shocked if they did. But rest assured good Raider bretheren, they don’t.
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I think when mark davis said last year he expected the team to perform better reggie had to kick it into overdrive to lower the expectations to save his job……..
March 12th, 2013 at 8:32 pm
Well the good news is my expectations are so low for 2013 there is no way I can be disappointed.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:33 pm
People keep forgetting to focus on the actual dollars saved compared to cap space hit.
Huff only saved us 1.6 in cap space, but depending on where you get the numbers, it saved Mark’s pockets anywhere from 7 to 11 million IN ACTUAL DOLLARS.
All these moves are saving more real money than cap money.
Shoring up the books for the RFP process.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:33 pm
picking up people like Ron bartell
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Bartell recovered nicely from his neck injury. Problem was he got 2 more unrelated injuries. You can’t project that. It’s a part of the game. Same thing with Spencer. His wasn’t a pre-existing injury either. freak things, like McFadden (every year) & JFORD
March 12th, 2013 at 8:33 pm
I don’t understand how anyone can think we won’t be horrible next year.
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i haven’t seen any post on here saying we won’t. can only get 4 games worse than last year
March 12th, 2013 at 8:33 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
Condo cut yet?
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The Face of the Franchise?
No way!
March 12th, 2013 at 8:34 pm
Bring back Andre Carter or Kyle Vanden Bosch to replace Tofelleson’s spot – a productive vet willing to play for a 1 year vet min deal.
Andre Carter actually looked pretty decent last year once he got in the game more.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:34 pm
Keep McClain. Make him a fckng pass rusher. Need at least one bad ass on the team.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:34 pm
For those who still think that the 2011 Raiders were playoff bound are full of shiat.
Remember that Houston game with 10 defensive players on the field?
Raiders also squeaked out a few more VERY lucky wins.
Hugh is now a career assistant as with J.Campbell as a career back up QB.
The Raiders should have went 6-10 that year.
This crap is way overdue. I hate to see it go down this way but it is time. fk it.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:34 pm
We really need to be players for the rest of free agency. We have way too many holes to rely on rebuilding via draft
March 12th, 2013 at 8:35 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 8:33 pm
picking up people like Ron bartell
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Bartell recovered nicely from his neck injury. Problem was he got 2 more unrelated injuries. You can’t project that. It’s a part of the game. Same thing with Spencer. His wasn’t a pre-existing injury either. freak things, like McFadden (every year) & JFORD
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Right, the guy was out of football for 2011, no way to see that one. Get back to work Raleigh.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:35 pm
JB Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 8:27 pm
Perhaps all these moves are part of a much greater plan – Escape from Oakland with a pocket-full of cash. 2013 looks to be a terrible year. The tarp covered bleachers will NOT prevent blackouts and Raider management will scream poor-mouth to the Oakland & Alameda County powers only to be rebuffed when they want commitments on a new stadium. All the pieces will be in play for an authorized move out of Oakland to who knows where. I don’t think it will be a shared arrangement in Santa Clara or Los Angeles. Someone mentioned Las Vegas earlier and that could be a possibility. There’s certainly enough population and money around there to fund their own stadium. Play somewhere else (or here) for 2 years while the new stadium is built and viola, a new hot spot for an NFL team and what better place for future Super Bowl appearances. Yes, it’s all part of a master super plan to say adios amigo, we’re off to MUCH GREENER pastures.
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Interesting, I always wondered why Las Vegas didn’t have their own team. It just seems so right. Question is, would they rename the team? Or would they keep the Raiders? Silver and Black sure as hell would fit as colors for a Las Vegas team…
March 12th, 2013 at 8:35 pm
Will they compare us to the little giants, the bad news bears or the mighty ducks?
March 12th, 2013 at 8:35 pm
these two cuts was more progress than any FA signing over the last 3 years
March 12th, 2013 at 8:36 pm
@VicTafur more like mom trying to explain that there wasn’t any money for XMas presents because dad drank it away…kid tells mom he hates her.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:36 pm
we’ll have plenty of money next year. this year, this coaching staff has to prove that it’s worth playing for.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:36 pm
Bring back Andre Carter or Kyle Vanden Bosch to replace Tofelleson’s spot – a productive vet willing to play for a 1 year vet min deal.
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CDE,
I think vet mentors are crucial for a young & hungry roster, which we will have in 2013 … as long as those over-the-hill last legs players don’t cost much. no more “out of whack” multi-year contracts please.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:37 pm
Raiders For Life Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 8:34 pm
For those who still think that the 2011 Raiders were playoff bound are full of shiat.
Remember that Houston game with 10 defensive players on the field?
Raiders also squeaked out a few more VERY lucky wins.
Hugh is now a career assistant as with J.Campbell as a career back up QB.
The Raiders should have went 6-10 that year.
This crap is way overdue. I hate to see it go down this way but it is time. fk it.
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Well, all we had to do was win in week 17 to be “playoff bound”. But hey if re-writing Raider history makes it easier to portray Shreg as a clueless dolt have at it.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:37 pm
434. I agree. Reggie better pick up a replacement for Bryant tomorrow, at least.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:38 pm
oh I remember saying stay away from Bartel and Spencer.. broken goods.. trade dmac yesterday
March 12th, 2013 at 8:38 pm
back to work Raleigh.
EMRaiders Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 8:35 pm
JB Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 8:27 pm
Perhaps all these moves are part of a much greater plan – Escape from Oakland with a pocket-full of cash. 2013 looks to be a terrible year. The tarp covered bleachers will NOT prevent blackouts and Raider management will scream poor-mouth to the Oakland & Alameda County powers only to be rebuffed when they want commitments on a new stadium. All the pieces will be in play for an authorized move out of Oakland to who knows where. I don’t think it will be a shared arrangement in Santa Clara or Los Angeles. Someone mentioned Las Vegas earlier and that could be a possibility. There’s certainly enough population and money around there to fund their own stadium. Play somewhere else (or here) for 2 years while the new stadium is built and viola, a new hot spot for an NFL team and what better place for future Super Bowl appearances. Yes, it’s all part of a master super plan to say adios amigo, we’re off to MUCH GREENER pastures.
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Interesting, I always wondered why Las Vegas didn’t have their own team. It just seems so right. Question is, would they rename the team? Or would they keep the Raiders? Silver and Black sure as hell would fit as colors for a Las Vegas team…
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They Change the Name and/or the Colors and I will never watch a football game again for the rest of my life.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:38 pm
could you imagine trying to keep your players out of trouble if your team lived in vegas?players get in trouble already in florida!!! lol
March 12th, 2013 at 8:38 pm
AZ getting mendenhall…..they need to get palmer and draft a LT to compete with 9ers and hawks
March 12th, 2013 at 8:38 pm
Raiders for life Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 8:34 pm
For those who still think that the 2011 Raiders were playoff bound are full of shiat.
Remember that Houston game with 10 defensive players on the field?
Raiders also squeaked out a few more VERY lucky wins.
Hugh is now a career assistant as with J.Campbell as a career back up QB.
The Raiders should have went 6-10 that year.
This crap is way overdue. I hate to see it go down this way but it is time. fk it.
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So now close wins don’t count? Got it.
So Reggie and DA were actually 2-14 this year, not 4-12 right. Since the Pittsburgh and Jacksonville wins were come-from-behind late and won with a FG on the final play.
Somebody tell KC we’re picking 1st.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:39 pm
The problem with Vegas is that the NFL would not be allowed to have gambling on the team there. Of course, maybe they will feel sorry for us and grant an exception.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:39 pm
Fan support in Vegas might be an issue, as well as the Heat.
Too many fans from other parts of the country, Bears, Packers, Steelers, New York teams etc, to where it would be tough to have a distinct, home town crowd.
And it would still be pushing 100 degrees in week 7, and 105 opening weekend.
Even if the stadium is indoors, noboyd wants to travel or tailgate in that weather.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:39 pm
430
That is classic!
Condooooooooooo!!!!!!!
Who knew we’d lose to SD because Condo couldn’t go??
March 12th, 2013 at 8:40 pm
434. I agree. Reggie better pick up a replacement for Bryant tomorrow, at least.
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whats so bad about getting depth and starting bilikudi?
March 12th, 2013 at 8:40 pm
Chris In NY Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 8:38 pm
Raiders for life Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 8:34 pm
For those who still think that the 2011 Raiders were playoff bound are full of shiat.
Remember that Houston game with 10 defensive players on the field?
Raiders also squeaked out a few more VERY lucky wins.
Hugh is now a career assistant as with J.Campbell as a career back up QB.
The Raiders should have went 6-10 that year.
This crap is way overdue. I hate to see it go down this way but it is time. fk it.
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So now close wins don’t count? Got it.
So Reggie and DA were actually 2-14 this year, not 4-12 right. Since the Pittsburgh and Jacksonville wins were come-from-behind late and won with a FG on the final play.
Somebody tell KC we’re picking 1st.
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Shhhhhhhhhhhh, stop with the logic.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:40 pm
Evening Fellas,
So Free Agency is only a 1 Day 24 hour deal?
I’d have liked to keep Wheeler and Bryant around, but I wouldn’t pay the $$$ Miami and Cleveland did.
The CAP is real, as in finite resources.
With so many holes Reggie is wise to sign players from the middle class of players. Those that are productive, but squeezed out by their former Teams because of the cap.
Good NFL workers that can fill immediate needs without compromising the Future resources of the Organization.
It’s a rebuild to be sure, but it doesn’t mean we will be 0-16 or 2-14.
I’m happy to cut the dead wood and start fresh.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:41 pm
wow why didn’t i see Desmond going to the Browns. wow he is overpaid IMO
March 12th, 2013 at 8:41 pm
I’m gonna laugh if the Cards get stuck with a Kolb/Skelton QB derby!
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/12/drew-stanton-to-visit-cardinals/
Heck, are those guys any better than the other QB’s on their roster (Hoyer & Lindley) ??
March 12th, 2013 at 8:41 pm
Better start to get active with the space he has now and cut Kelly already
March 12th, 2013 at 8:41 pm
oh and Wheeler? good lord!
don’t worry folks we will replace them and Huff/DHB with way better talent …
just keep the faith!!
March 12th, 2013 at 8:42 pm
“I’m happy to cut the dead wood and start fresh with the Criner’s, Briesel’s, Bergstrom’s, Burris’s, Bartell’s of the world.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:42 pm
With Reggie letting go 3 starting DT’s (assuming TK gone too) this year — maybe they are switching to a base 3-4??
If so, we would need a legit NT (not easy to come by) and a whole truckload of LB’s – we only have 1 starting LB currently on the team – 1! Houston and Bilukidi can prob play ‘decent’ 3-4 DE with some outside speed help out at OLB/Rotational DE.
If we do stay at 4-3 then we need 3, count them 3 DT’s in FA and/or draft.
We have around 30 roster spots to fill at this point – amazing.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:42 pm
CDERaider Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 8:34 pm
Bring back Andre Carter or Kyle Vanden Bosch to replace Tofelleson’s spot – a productive vet willing to play for a 1 year vet min deal.
Andre Carter actually looked pretty decent last year once he got in the game more.
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Agree.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:42 pm
Marks hair Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 8:26 pm
Cut all the fat loose
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Hey genius! he let young talented players go just fulfilling their potential. You call that fat man?
Reggie wants to do it his way, fat has nothing to do with it. Des Bryant is a very good young DT who would’ve stayed but he’s scared to touch Palmer’s bloated contract which before it’s over he’ll have to do it.
He’s biting the bullitt and taking some big chances now I know he’ll trade down. It’s almost a foregone conclusion Pryor will be the starting QB for this team. He’s going completely young.
I;ve told you guys Rolando may be on this team next year. Not a prediction at all just a gut feeling…
March 12th, 2013 at 8:43 pm
The problem with Vegas is that the NFL would not be allowed to have gambling on the team there.
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Why?
You can bet on UNLV. You can bet on all the conference tourneys being played there right now. MMA, boxing, no issues.
The only restriction I ever saw was you couldn’t bet on the Kings games at the Palms, because the owners of the property actually owned the team.
So unless Adelson, Steve Wynn or the Arabs who now own MGM buy the team, I don’t see that becoming true.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:44 pm
I sure hope we don’t look back at the last 10 years as the good old days. I’m afraid it could happen with this regime.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:44 pm
AZ getting mendenhall
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really, Otto?
I thought he was going to the Donks and Reggie Bush was going to AZ?
argh. I can’t keep up with this stuff!
March 12th, 2013 at 8:45 pm
The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 8:42 pm
“I’m happy to cut the dead wood and start fresh with the Criner’s, Briesel’s, Bergstrom’s, Burris’s, Bartell’s of the world.
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Criner and Bergstrom for sure.
Reggie needs some picks.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:45 pm
The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 8:42 pm
“I’m happy to cut the dead wood and start fresh with the Criner’s, Briesel’s, Bergstrom’s, Burris’s, Bartell’s of the world.
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yikes….criner and burris just ok….the rest could go too
March 12th, 2013 at 8:45 pm
He needs to make good picks. Quality and quantity are needed.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:46 pm
Branch is much better than Bilikudi
March 12th, 2013 at 8:48 pm
The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 8:42 pm
“I’m happy to cut the dead wood and start fresh with the Criner’s, Briesel’s, Bergstrom’s, Burris’s, Bartell’s of the world.
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Really the only name you mentioned that I think has potential is Criner and maybe Burris. Bartell stinks!
You have to allow Reggie to do it his way but I don’t want to hear a single person blame anyone else but this reggime for a loss next year. Because a lot of this was unnecessary. It’s Reggie’s personal preference nothing more.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:48 pm
RaiderLen Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 8:40 pm
Evening Fellas,
So Free Agency is only a 1 Day 24 hour deal?
I’d have liked to keep Wheeler and Bryant around, but I wouldn’t pay the $$$ Miami and Cleveland did.
The CAP is real, as in finite resources.
With so many holes Reggie is wise to sign players from the middle class of players. Those that are productive, but squeezed out by their former Teams because of the cap.
Good NFL workers that can fill immediate needs without compromising the Future resources of the Organization.
It’s a rebuild to be sure, but it doesn’t mean we will be 0-16 or 2-14.
I’m happy to cut the dead wood and start fresh.
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Totally, is 2-14 really worse than 4-12? No. If you’re going to suck at least suck with young, cheap players that have potential to improve and suck completely so you have the best chance in the following draft.
Over the hill cap hogs and 4-6 win seasons have killed us for a decade.
afaik 2-14 > 4-12.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:49 pm
Bryant had like 6 teams chasing after him. And with good reason. He’s an excellent, powerful, versatile defensive lineman entering his prime.
If Reggie were actually doing anything to build this team up it’s exactly the kind of guy he should be signing.
I realize you want to kid yourselves into believing that Reggie McKenzie has us on some prolonged path to greatness. That’s great. Enjoy. But Bryant is not being overpaid.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:49 pm
If we are in full rebuild mode then there is no reason to hold on to Palmer. Start TP, worst that could happen is we are the worst team in the league and draft Clowney and there is the possibility that TP excels and we cross one need off of the draft board
March 12th, 2013 at 8:50 pm
yikes….criner and burris just ok….the rest could go too
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Consider when they were drafted. Still young, with flaws, but cheap and learning.
Reggie needs some picks higher than a late 3rd round compensatory pick.
Branch contract was a mistake imo, and Breisel gets a mulligan because He played hurt, but I don’t like His contract.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:50 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 8:39 pm
Fan support in Vegas might be an issue, as well as the Heat.
Too many fans from other parts of the country, Bears, Packers, Steelers, New York teams etc, to where it would be tough to have a distinct, home town crowd.
And it would still be pushing 100 degrees in week 7, and 105 opening weekend.
Even if the stadium is indoors, noboyd wants to travel or tailgate in that weather.
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You’d be surprise. I think a Las Vegas team would be like a sweet heart team for the whole USA. Think about it, everybody loves Las Vegas. A team in silver and black, LAS VEGAS RAIDERS. LVR. I don’t think people will care about the heat. Besides, they can just build a casino around the stadium with a lobby circling the entire entry into the stadium so that you have to walk through it before going into the game. The whole casino could be NFL themed. NFL teams themed blackjack tables, craps and poker rooms. Team themed slots and cards. Vintage player pics all through out the walls. Dealers wearing team jerseys. Waitress the same, you know, how girls like to wear them, tied in a knot right below the boobs, showing off the belly bottom. Oh yea… it would work. lol….
If you build it, they will come.
(By the way, for those of you who can’t sense sarcasm, I in no way endorse a move by the Raiders to Las Vegas.)
March 12th, 2013 at 8:50 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 8:43 pm
The problem with Vegas is that the NFL would not be allowed to have gambling on the team there.
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Why?
You can bet on UNLV. You can bet on all the conference tourneys being played there right now. MMA, boxing, no issues.
The only restriction I ever saw was you couldn’t bet on the Kings games at the Palms, because the owners of the property actually owned the team.
So unless Adelson, Steve Wynn or the Arabs who now own MGM buy the team, I don’t see that becoming true.
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It’s a reason there has never been serious consideration to move a team to Vegas(what I’ve been told) Don’t know how serious it is…Never want Adelson owning this team.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:51 pm
palmer is not going to stay here unless reggie forces him to by paying the full 13M….my guess is he gets traded
March 12th, 2013 at 8:51 pm
If Adelson bought the team he would immediately hire Newt to be team president, lol.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:52 pm
Better trade down and make smart picks
March 12th, 2013 at 8:52 pm
perfect scenario has the bill trading up with us to nab geno and us trading paler to AZ and we get 2 2nd round picks
March 12th, 2013 at 8:52 pm
Raiders for life Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 8:34 pm
For those who still think that the 2011 Raiders were playoff bound are full of shiat.
Remember that Houston game with 10 defensive players on the field?
Raiders also squeaked out a few more VERY lucky wins.
Hugh is now a career assistant as with J.Campbell as a career back up QB.
The Raiders should have went 6-10 that year.
This crap is way overdue. I hate to see it go down this way but it is time. fk it.
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You guys are just taking this stance because it’s better than crying. You really don’t know what else to say.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:52 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 8:48 pm
The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 8:42 pm
“I’m happy to cut the dead wood and start fresh with the Criner’s, Briesel’s, Bergstrom’s, Burris’s, Bartell’s of the world.
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Really the only name you mentioned that I think has potential is Criner and maybe Burris. Bartell stinks!
You have to allow Reggie to do it his way but I don’t want to hear a single person blame anyone else but this reggime for a loss next year. Because a lot of this was unnecessary. It’s Reggie’s personal preference nothing more.
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It was sarcasm.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:52 pm
I would love a team, and/or our team in Vegas.
Reason #2,386 to retire there.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:53 pm
I’m with Priest on Des Bryant. Why did he have to be let go, when we have so many holes on the D line?
March 12th, 2013 at 8:53 pm
Chris In NY Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 8:49 pm
Bryant had like 6 teams chasing after him. And with good reason. He’s an excellent, powerful, versatile defensive lineman entering his prime.
If Reggie were actually doing anything to build this team up it’s exactly the kind of guy he should be signing.
I realize you want to kid yourselves into believing that Reggie McKenzie has us on some prolonged path to greatness. That’s great. Enjoy. But Bryant is not being overpaid.
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2nd best post of the night.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:53 pm
reggie a straight up idiot there is no hope for this team…
March 12th, 2013 at 8:54 pm
because we are not trying to win
March 12th, 2013 at 8:55 pm
He’s going young and doing it his way. It’s his perogative he has to do what he knows. This how he does it so lets see what happens. But letting Des bryant go IMO was stupid there is no other way to look at it. He just doesn’t know how to handle the cap so he’s doing the only thing he knows HOW TO DO!
March 12th, 2013 at 8:55 pm
fvckin criner are you serious? lbs can cover that fool…
March 12th, 2013 at 8:55 pm
Priority #1: Save actual dollars
Priority #2: Save cap dollars
Priority #3: Sell football team
Priority #4: Win football games
March 12th, 2013 at 8:56 pm
I’m really excited to see what happens in 2014.
From 2011 to 2012 we went from 8 wins to 4 wins.
From 2012 to 2013 we’ll probably go from 4 wins to 0.
I’m really excited to see how Reggie can defy mathematics and extend on that trend. Should be interesting.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:56 pm
I agree with Chris about Bryant….. He is the kind of player we should be signing, minus the mugshot….
March 12th, 2013 at 8:56 pm
There is NO plan in place. It’s just cutting Al Davis players for the sake of cutting players so he can get the credit for winning. Of course, I doubt Shreg is here after this season.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:56 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 8:55 pm
He’s going young and doing it his way. It’s his perogative he has to do what he knows. This how he does it so lets see what happens. But letting Des bryant go IMO was stupid there is no other way to look at it. He just doesn’t know how to handle the cap so he’s doing the only thing he knows HOW TO DO!
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i heard reggie use that phrase several times…….the only problem is we dont know what he knows…..it may be nothing
March 12th, 2013 at 8:57 pm
I gaurantee they are actively trying to trade Palmer they want significant picks to do it. But they are trying to trade Palmer for picks.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:57 pm
I was bummed to see Des go, but this is why draft picks or so valuable.
You don’t have to compete with other teams when your on the clock. You want someone, you get him.
How do we not know that we offered Bryant even more then that contract in Cleveland, and he told us, the organization, the state and it’s taxes, to screw off?
March 12th, 2013 at 8:57 pm
Palmer isn’t sticking around
For this mess
March 12th, 2013 at 8:58 pm
Al Davis’ team is history. 2013 and beyond now belongs entirely to Mark and Reggie. Heaven help us, please!!!
March 12th, 2013 at 8:58 pm
Palmer might not get moved until draft weekend.
March 12th, 2013 at 8:59 pm
We gotta get to signing players to fill the needs on d and OL
March 12th, 2013 at 9:00 pm
it doesnt matter anymore reggie is waiving the white flag…
March 12th, 2013 at 9:00 pm
perfect scenario has the bills trading up with us to nab geno and us trading palmer to AZ and we get 2 2nd round picks
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This!!!
March 12th, 2013 at 9:00 pm
491. I want to cry, but that is funny!
March 12th, 2013 at 9:01 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 8:55 pm
Priority #1: Save actual dollars
Priority #2: Save cap dollars
Priority #3: Sell football team
Priority #4: Win football games
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Yep. You can suck balls and still make tons of money, and if your payroll is at the minimum you are going to look great to potential buyers. Mark is trying to maximize his profit in the short term and make the books look good for the sale to the LA group in 2015.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:01 pm
Can’t wait till Mumbles and DA r sent packing after this upcoming horrendous season we r all about to endure 2014 the year of Clowney or Murray maybe even Manziel
March 12th, 2013 at 9:01 pm
More than 1 full year after taking over as Raiders GM, and the only really good player he’s added is a single undrafted free agent rookie who fell into his lap because he had ties to the kid’s agent.
Is this how it’s done? You know, “the right way.”
March 12th, 2013 at 9:02 pm
He’s showing us what he knows, Reggie is a college scout that is his game. the Draft that is what he believes in and he’s going to gather as many picks as he can to rebiuld this roster. That is his game……….period
Reggie doesn’t know this league and he doesn’t know how to deal for players.
Look the Niners just got Boldin for a 6th, a freakin 6th. You telling me we couldn’t do that?
Big Al would’ve done that in his sleep…
Reggie’s game is the college draft..period
March 12th, 2013 at 9:03 pm
beach Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 8:58 pm
Al Davis’ team is history. 2013 and beyond now belongs entirely to Mark and Reggie. Heaven help us, please!!!
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Amen!
March 12th, 2013 at 9:03 pm
00tt00 Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 8:56 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 8:55 pm
He’s going young and doing it his way. It’s his perogative he has to do what he knows. This how he does it so lets see what happens. But letting Des bryant go IMO was stupid there is no other way to look at it. He just doesn’t know how to handle the cap so he’s doing the only thing he knows HOW TO DO!
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i heard reggie use that phrase several times…….the only problem is we dont know what he knows…..it may be nothing
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I was wondering about this as well.
It’s hard to believe Reggie got this far being completely incompetent. So maybe he’s just an egomaniac. So there’s that.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:04 pm
You got to place any blame, IMO, always at the top.
Reggie is clearly a guy with a woodrow for 5th and 6th round picks, UDFA’s, and someone who folds just about everything but pocket aces.
That’s who he is. Should we blame him for being him, or the fool who hired him.
This all falls on Mark’s plate, first and foremost.
Isn’t this the last year on the lease in Oakland? This could get ugly, real fast.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:04 pm
JFB
Palmer being moved and Geno being the pick would be nice
how about Palmer taking the paycut and then we trade back with BUF(acquire their 3rd rounder).. then proceed to give up that top ten pick for Victor Cruz? give palmer a true #1 to go along with Streater and D-Mo ?
yea i’m just dreamin right now.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:04 pm
So Reggie couldn’t get any picks for any of the players we cut? Strange……..And let me be the first to say:
2013 – The Raiders will “Clown for Clowney!”
Step 1 – Head Coach that makes Lane Kiffin look like Vince Lombardi (check)
Step 2 – Dump starters and replace them with special teamers or anyone that Green Bay releases. (check)
Step 3 – Get rid of players that actually worked and wanted to get better (DHB…Rock Cartwright last year) and keep locker room cancers (Kelly, McClain) and no talents(Briesel) and players that do not fit new power scheme (Bergstrom) (check)
Step 5 – Blame Al Davis for everything (check)
Note to self – cancel NFL Ticket and get ready for 2014 season. That’s what Reggie’s doing.
Raiders might as well cut or trade CP, TP, DMAC,Reece, Veldeer and Wiz 2.0. Get some draft picks for 2014 and 2015. Just burn the whole thing and be done with it.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:05 pm
Too bad Carol wasn’t calling the shots.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:05 pm
JFB,
falls more on Madden’s plate if you ask me. Mark listened to him 100% of the way. you think he knows anything about scouting talent?
March 12th, 2013 at 9:05 pm
Bryant is a tough loss but not devastating – Raiders found him and groomed him to be good from a nobody RFA. But.. we simply couldn’t pay *that contract* right now with all the other crap we got going on.
Plus he’s not really worth what he’s getting, he was ‘good’ but not ‘great’ Lets see what happens when TK or Seymour isn’t there to absorb double teams anymore. He did tend to disappear at times … he was never a full-time guy till the end of last year and was not a pro bowler or anything close personally. His (actually huge) contract is based mostly on potential.
Wheeler is another one, came out in the press last week and suggested OAK may not be best situation for him. Bye bye.. Again, he’s good, but not great.
Would have been nice to keep these guys at more affordable contracts than they got but aint happnin so lets move on.
Bilukidi in for Bryant, find another FA or Rook to fill Wheeler’s spot.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:06 pm
It took Al 44 years to be so bad to get the #1 overall pick in the draft. It will take Chubby checker 2 years.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:06 pm
its sickening how freakin arrogant and smug this sob is…disrespecting tge guy who gave him a chance at football…
March 12th, 2013 at 9:07 pm
Palmer being moved and Geno being the pick would be nice
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About the only way to add some sizzle to the situation.
Plus, in years ahead, you got to have a face of the franchise to attract future FA’s as well. Word of mouth amongst players is huge in FA.
Could it be TP?? Maybe, he certainly will give it his best effort.
But effort don’t convert 3rd and 9’s on the road. Precision accuracy, timing and pre-snap recognitions do.
I got more confidence in Geno doing those 3 things than TP right now.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:08 pm
Look the Niners just got Boldin for a 6th, a freakin 6th. You telling me we couldn’t do that?
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9ers will pay Boldin 6 mil. The Smith trade netted them 8 Mil. The Niners have 14 picks in the draft.
The 9 ers were in the SB.
How are the Raiders different? lol
Boldin is Frosting man. We don’t even have a cake.
It’s still in the oven.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:09 pm
How do we not know that we offered Bryant even more then that contract in Cleveland, and he told us, the organization, the state and it’s taxes, to screw off?
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Doesn’t jive with the Reggie sucks propaganda.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:10 pm
The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:06 pm
It took Al 44 years to be so bad to get the #1 overall pick in the draft. It will take Chubby checker 2 years.
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At least he is respecting Al’s love of speed.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:10 pm
RUE THE DAY you hated on Mark, Reggie & Dennis list:
1. everybody, except me
March 12th, 2013 at 9:10 pm
all these reggie lovers will realize how much it actually took to blow this so bad…
March 12th, 2013 at 9:10 pm
Boldin would have not shown up here if traded unless we made him the highest paid WR in NFL history.
Probably wouldn’t be worth it.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:10 pm
No reason to take a chance on Geno Smith. We have way too many needs and he is too risky and if you miss on him, we’re set back another 3-4 years.
I know everybody says, ‘you need a qb’ but its not the time and he aint the dude.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:10 pm
515. I would settle for good in Bryant and Wheeler over what we have tonight: NOTHING!!!
March 12th, 2013 at 9:11 pm
Boldin would have retired instead of going to a team that only won 4 games.
Baltimore wouldn’t have done him like that.
ZERO chance to get Boldin. Al Davis or not.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:12 pm
RaiderLen
Shoot, the batter is still not even mixed for the cake yet!
March 12th, 2013 at 9:12 pm
RRS,
I have NO PROBLEM with what the GM is doing.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:13 pm
no one but scrubs…no one.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:13 pm
So Bryant’s gone, eh? Mistake.
Wheeler would have been nice to retain too, but he’s not as good as maybe he thought he was.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:13 pm
Whoknows Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:10 pm
The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:06 pm
It took Al 44 years to be so bad to get the #1 overall pick in the draft. It will take Chubby checker 2 years.
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At least he is respecting Al’s love of speed.
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LOL! Zinger
March 12th, 2013 at 9:14 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:04 pm
You got to place any blame, IMO, always at the top.
Reggie is clearly a guy with a woodrow for 5th and 6th round picks, UDFA’s, and someone who folds just about everything but pocket aces.
That’s who he is. Should we blame him for being him, or the fool who hired him.
This all falls on Mark’s plate, first and foremost.
Isn’t this the last year on the lease in Oakland? This could get ugly, real fast.
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It sounds like a longshot, but I’ve been thinking since the Gruden rumors first surfaced late last season that Jon Gruden will be head coach of the 2014 LOS ANGELES Raiders, with significant control over personnel decisions.
I typically don’t get wrapped up in conspiracy theories, but you look at those rumors. You look at Gruden’s coy comments when asked about it. You look at how Reggie is single-mindedly focused on doing nothing but cutting every last dime of payroll. And it’s about the only thing that makes sense. May cost us infamy and a 0-16 season, but sets up:
- Franchise move to LA following dreadful ticket sales and an expired lease.
- No. 1 pick in the draft which may have 2-3 franchise type QB prospects (Bridgewater, Manziel and Murray).
- I don’t know, like 70 million in salary cap room from which to build a team.
- All of which — plus a FAT contract — entices Jon Gruden to return to lead the Raiders back with a blank slate and nowhere to go but up.
Are Mark and Reggie really cooking this up? Are they actually evil geniuses?
March 12th, 2013 at 9:14 pm
Vegas and J are telling the truth. Boldin would not have shown up here.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:14 pm
Remeber when the Marlins won the WS, then went on a fire sale the next two years, and then Huzienga sold the team?
So 2011 was our “World Series” 2012/13 the fire sales, and 2014 expect some major ownership changes.
Looks that way, because these are not football decisions.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:15 pm
Jackasspuria Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:12 pm
RaiderLen
Shoot, the batter is still not even mixed for the cake yet!
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Reggie is breaking eggs however. lol
March 12th, 2013 at 9:15 pm
We still have D Moore, Ford, Reece, Streater, and DMac on offense. Wiz and Veldheer holding down the Oline with either a young Nix or Bergstrom joining them.
All this doom and gloom.
SMH
March 12th, 2013 at 9:15 pm
Clown for Clowney!!
Trade the Number 3 pick for a 2nd Rounder in this years draft and a 1st Rounder in 2014 draft and whatever else we can get.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:15 pm
Its funny..but probably well needed..
Fire sale now
An build for the future..
Playoffs in 2015_2016 an beyond,,,,,,
As we say while walking across the BART ramp bfore an after the game.
Raiiiiiderssss!!!!!!
March 12th, 2013 at 9:15 pm
J Hill Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:12 pm
RRS,
I have NO PROBLEM with what the GM is doing.
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There’s some overreaction in here but it would have been nice to retain Bryant.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:16 pm
Whoknows Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:10 pm
The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:06 pm
It took Al 44 years to be so bad to get the #1 overall pick in the draft. It will take Chubby checker 2 years.
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At least he is respecting Al’s love of speed.
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LMAO.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:16 pm
its cool though…reggie will be out after this year, just gonna have to make it a college football season…mix in some good boxing, a little mma…
March 12th, 2013 at 9:16 pm
I am going to have to adopt a team to follow for a few years and root for while the raiders try to lose to win.
My dad is a bears fan and there is no obvious conflicts with the raiders.
I hereby adopt the Chicago bears as my second team.
Go bears!
March 12th, 2013 at 9:16 pm
Maybe I’ll rent out my blog name to Reggie.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:17 pm
J Hill
I’ll believe in the Doom & Gloom if the Raiders show no signs of life and aren’t competitive game 1 of the regular season.
Plenty of time to build a roster from here until training camp.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:17 pm
533. Way off. LA won’t have a stadium at best for another 4 years.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:18 pm
Huzienga sold the team to a local commodities dealer/broker.
Maybe Mark can sell us off to Pac Life or something.
We can become the Orca’s.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:18 pm
you said nix and bergstrom with a straight face?….dayum
March 12th, 2013 at 9:18 pm
Seahawks are my # 2 team. Go Seattle!!!
March 12th, 2013 at 9:18 pm
Dakota
You could always do a side-by-side comparison of how the season will play out with the Raiders and Jets.
The Jets financial situation and roster are on the same level as the Raiders.
See who gets to respectability first.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:19 pm
Bears are one of the few teams I don’t have a problem with.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:19 pm
Exactly, Jack.
Some folks are acting like the season starts tomorrow.
I would have liked to keep Bryant too. But not at any price.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:19 pm
L.A. is a pipe dream.
Read in the L.A. papers the stadium deals are collapsing left and right and it will be a while before one is in the early stages of being approved.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:20 pm
Season doesnt start tomorrow , but Free agency already started. maybe Reggie’s confused
March 12th, 2013 at 9:20 pm
At least the Jets owner goes on Squawk Box and sounds articulate.
I would love to see Mark Davis go on there, for the unintentional comedy aspect of it.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:21 pm
Just LOSE baby!
It’s how all the good teams got to the top! Like… like… like… well, who cares!
Just LOSE baby!
We are building this the Reggie way. Losing builds championships!
March 12th, 2013 at 9:21 pm
You know what would be the $hit icing on this rotten egg cake? If they went and spent the money saved on no name players that end up being released next year.
I think they are planning on holding on to Palmer. Keeping Pryor, as insurance, and retooling the offense. Remember, the offense is pretty much still the same from last year. Minus a RB, a “proven” #1 WR, and an Oline, which they needed to rebuild anyway because of the switch to the power O. Now, if one of our current WRs steps up and becomes that #1, then we should be ok. Oh, we also need a “proven” TE.
The D is where the big ? is. that is one hot mess that will be interesting to see how it ends up.
Reggie, please surprise us all and get some legit players. They don’t have to be HOFers, but solid, decent good. At this point, I’d be happy with that.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:21 pm
Was all over the media last week, the LA deal is dead. Zed is dead. AIG is done and that downtown stadium is done. Forget it.
Maybe another buyer/plan will start up but as of the near future (3-4 years), LA ain’t happnin.
And even if/when it does, Raiders are 2nd in line to the Chargers unless they get a new stadium in San Diego which doesn’t look likely.
Raids are stuck in Bay for now – that’s the deal as it stands today – we can now either suck the whiners 2 inch peepees and beg to borrow their stadium or just man up and figure out something in Oakland.
Get the A’s out of there and we might be able to just renovate and stay.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:21 pm
DT42 Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:15 pm
Clown for Clowney!!
Trade the Number 3 pick for a 2nd Rounder in this years draft and a 1st Rounder in 2014 draft and whatever else we can get.
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Might as well. Especially if you could do it with a team like the Jets that figures to sukk so bad they could end up with the No. 2 pick.
Imagine if we could land Bridgewater/Manziel at No. 1 and Clowney at No. 2 next year. That would be incredible.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:21 pm
Here’s a link to the L.A. stadium…
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/04/report-aeg-l-a-stadium-proposal-essentially-dead-to-nfl/
March 12th, 2013 at 9:22 pm
Good night, boys! Let’s see if the fire sale continues tomorrow, or Reggie starts building a team!
March 12th, 2013 at 9:22 pm
J Hill Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:19 pm
Exactly, Jack.
Some folks are acting like the season starts tomorrow.
I would have liked to keep Bryant too. But not at any price.
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Hey J Hill,
Exactly.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:22 pm
Just think we still have Shane Lechler, SeBass, Seymour, Kelly, that need to go. Think of the cap savings.
Clowney is going to look amazing in Silver and Black!
March 12th, 2013 at 9:22 pm
Carson Palmer is still on the team and you cats are still complaining, lol.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:22 pm
We still have D Moore, Ford, Reece, Streater, and DMac on offense. Wiz and Veldheer holding down the Oline with either a young Nix or Bergstrom joining them.
All this doom and gloom.
SMH
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Jhill,
add Pryor & Janikowski
I think Stewart, Criner & Ausberry could even be in the mix. I haven’t written off any of our youngsters (except McClain!)
March 12th, 2013 at 9:23 pm
Lechler is already gone DT42. He along with Richard Seymour are unrestricted free agents. Only Jano and Kelly remain out of the four you mentioned.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:23 pm
The bears are letting urlacher walk…..great, my second team sucks too!
March 12th, 2013 at 9:24 pm
Wassup, Len?
Who would have thought losing our BACKUP rotational DT would cause such an uproar?
March 12th, 2013 at 9:24 pm
Jhill, You sound like a girl getting raped and decided to just enjoy it…
March 12th, 2013 at 9:24 pm
Bryant price wasnt that expensive. he did have multiple teams bidding for him , unlike anyone Reggies ever went after.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:24 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:13 pm
no one but scrubs…no one.
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The good part of that is they are ‘Reggies guys’
March 12th, 2013 at 9:25 pm
it’s very possible that Reggie is waiting for prices to drop on solid players in FA, then he will pounce.
Dansby to a multi year contract, Sopoaga the same, then draft Jarvis Jones … that’s my start to a 3-4 D
if we get Clowney next year, then so be it! we will be VICIOUS, only next year.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:25 pm
cant wait for all the reggie lovers to make excuses for his draft bc he doesnt have a 2nd rounder.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:26 pm
Five-year, $34 million with $15 million guaranteed for Desmond Bryant.
Teams are opening up the checkbooks on first day of free agency.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:26 pm
Dakota Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:23 pm
The bears are letting urlacher walk…..great, my second team sucks too!
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Dansby, Urlacher and Jarvis Jones !! DO IT REGGIE!! haha… yes im still pipe dreaming
March 12th, 2013 at 9:26 pm
clowney will look great with four guys blocking him…no need to block the other scrubs.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:27 pm
So that makes it better jack? Time to trade DMAC, CP (to the cards) load up on picks. That’s been the plan all along.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:27 pm
Xraided
Sopoaga signed with the Eagles.
Via Rotoworld.com
Eagles signed NT Isaac Sopoaga to a three-year deal worth nearly $12 million, with $5 million guaranteed.
Rather than blowing their wad on a Dashon Goldson or Sean Smith, the Eagles are trying to rebuild their roster by simply adding good football players. Sopoaga is a two-down nose tackle, but should help shore up Philly’s run defense at 6-foot-2 and 330 pounds — fire hydrant size. He’ll anchor the new 3-4 defense. Mar 12 – 8:19 PM
March 12th, 2013 at 9:27 pm
Just LOSE baby!
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Since 2003.
8-8 isn’t “winning”.
11-5 or better is WINNING in my book.
Super Bowl Victories are the Legacy.
Pretty sure Reggie thinks along these lines.
Al did, His methods were different than Reggie’s.
Many ways to skin the cat.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:27 pm
J Hill Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:15 pm
We still have D Moore, Ford, Reece, Streater, and DMac on offense. Wiz and Veldheer holding down the Oline with either a young Nix or Bergstrom joining them.
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Moore can’t catch; ford and Dmac can’t stay healthy; and Wiz and Veldheer are only 2/5 necessary components of an O-Line.
/devils advocate mode
March 12th, 2013 at 9:27 pm
J Hill Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:15 pm
We still have D Moore, Ford, Reece, Streater, and DMac on offense. Wiz and Veldheer holding down the Oline with either a young Nix or Bergstrom joining them.
All this doom and gloom.
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so…there is another strategy reggie can use…..if the O is not as far off as the D naybe reggie will go out and sign one quality FA that being RT andre smith……OG and TE should also be cheap and easy ib FA…….palmer, dmac, a solid OL and at least the games wont be boring…..we will still be 2-14 but we will lost games like 49-34…….then the whole D could be drafted with young guys that growing together…………………….but not so sure that is the strategy considering letting leading receiver…..the guy who had the best relationship with your starting QB go without even offering anything………if palmer goes then dmac should go too.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:27 pm
J Hill Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:22 pm
Carson Palmer is still on the team and you cats are still complaining, lol.
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Why? Why is Palmer still on the team? To maybe lead us to a win or perhaps two? Why waste money like that. It is poor business sense.
Keeping Palmer is counter productive to Reggies lack of common sense on building a program. It’s all about demolition.
0-16 baby! (was 1-15)
March 12th, 2013 at 9:28 pm
Chris In NY Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:14 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:04 pm
You got to place any blame, IMO, always at the top.
Reggie is clearly a guy with a woodrow for 5th and 6th round picks, UDFA’s, and someone who folds just about everything but pocket aces.
That’s who he is. Should we blame him for being him, or the fool who hired him.
This all falls on Mark’s plate, first and foremost.
Isn’t this the last year on the lease in Oakland? This could get ugly, real fast.
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It sounds like a longshot, but I’ve been thinking since the Gruden rumors first surfaced late last season that Jon Gruden will be head coach of the 2014 LOS ANGELES Raiders, with significant control over personnel decisions.
I typically don’t get wrapped up in conspiracy theories, but you look at those rumors. You look at Gruden’s coy comments when asked about it. You look at how Reggie is single-mindedly focused on doing nothing but cutting every last dime of payroll. And it’s about the only thing that makes sense. May cost us infamy and a 0-16 season, but sets up:
- Franchise move to LA following dreadful ticket sales and an expired lease.
- No. 1 pick in the draft which may have 2-3 franchise type QB prospects (Bridgewater, Manziel and Murray).
- I don’t know, like 70 million in salary cap room from which to build a team.
- All of which — plus a FAT contract — entices Jon Gruden to return to lead the Raiders back with a blank slate and nowhere to go but up.
Are Mark and Reggie really cooking this up? Are they actually evil geniuses?
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That would make more sense than whatever in the hell they are doing.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:28 pm
oh wow missed that … well hmm… ouch on getting a decent NT
March 12th, 2013 at 9:28 pm
DT42
Columnist Monte Poole opined McFadden can be traded if the right deal came along…
From his column today (http://www.insidebayarea.com/sports/ci_22776267/poole-raiders-reggie-mckenzie-remains-housecleaning-mode)
There is running back Darren McFadden, taken fourth in 2008, and he also will be traded if the right deal materializes.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:29 pm
J Hill Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:19 pm
Exactly, Jack.
Some folks are acting like the season starts tomorrow.
I would have liked to keep Bryant too. But not at any price.
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Who’s sayin g break the bank for him. But young talents like that aren’t just walking into our lockerroom. At some point common sense has to reign.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:29 pm
Dunno Raider Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:24 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:13 pm
no one but scrubs…no one.
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The good part of that is they are ‘Reggies guys’
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At least we know they have no chance of getting with TLC.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:29 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:22 pm
We still have D Moore, Ford, Reece, Streater, and DMac on offense. Wiz and Veldheer holding down the Oline with either a young Nix or Bergstrom joining them.
All this doom and gloom.
SMH
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Jhill,
add Pryor & Janikowski
I think Stewart, Criner & Ausberry could even be in the mix. I haven’t written off any of our youngsters (except McClain!)
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RRS you’re up late.
Agree that the cupboard isn’t completely bare.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:29 pm
J Hill Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:15 pm
We still have D Moore, Ford, Reece, Streater, and DMac on offense. Wiz and Veldheer holding down the Oline with either a young Nix or Bergstrom joining them.
All this doom and gloom.
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7 & 1/2 guys DOES NOT make offense/defense/special teams. Com’on!
March 12th, 2013 at 9:29 pm
Quote from McKenzie via columnist Monte Poole…
“It’s a little more of a makeover than we thought,” McKenzie recently told me, “but that’s fine. I’m seeing progress now. We’re getting the salary cap right, because we don’t want that to stunt the growth of what we’re trying to do. That’s necessary to maintain continuity with our players.”
March 12th, 2013 at 9:29 pm
Jhill, You sound like a girl getting raped and decided to just enjoy it…
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You’re losing it, Priest.
Day by day, you’re going off the deep end. Babbling uncontrollably.
No one wants the visual of little girls being raped, old man.
PLAINLY obvious you are the scorned lover here as what YOU know as the Raider way moves in another direction.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:29 pm
8-8 isnt winning but its saying you are fielding a competitive team and a couple pieces could get you to the playoffs………there is indeed a difference between winning 4 games and 8 games….it impacts the whole physee of the team
March 12th, 2013 at 9:30 pm
^^^ interesting theory.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:30 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:18 pm
Huzienga sold the team to a local commodities dealer/broker.
Maybe Mark can sell us off to Pac Life or something.
We can become the Orca’s.
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We could keep the colors…
March 12th, 2013 at 9:30 pm
Classic Cork retort via Twitter:
Steve Corkran@CorkOnTheNFL
“@MarkConley: @CorkOnTheNFL I got dirty socks with more value.” — Might be needed at free safety this season.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:30 pm
Dakota Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:16 pm
I am going to have to adopt a team to follow for a few years and root for while the raiders try to lose to win.
My dad is a bears fan and there is no obvious conflicts with the raiders.
I hereby adopt the Chicago bears as my second team.
Go bears!
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Go with the Seahawks. They play Al Davis defense with a coach that loves speed & their senior executive should be our next GM.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ms-silver_scot_mccloughan_niners_raiders_gm_seahawks112311
March 12th, 2013 at 9:31 pm
At some point common sense has to reign.
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Maybe, just maybe Reggie thought it was common sense to not pay that type of money to Dez.
Two sides to every coin.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:32 pm
We are moving to a 3-4 DEFENSE, signs:
- We will be without our 3 DTs (Seymour, Bryant and possibly Kelly)
- Houston can play 3-4 DE
- Bilukidi played 3-4 DE in college
- Burris and McClain played 3-4 in college
- Tarver and Reggie are 3-4 guys
- LBs are easier to find. 3-4 LBs on the market: Burnett (brother on our roster), Barnett (GB connection), Dansby, Jones (GB),…
I think Brandian Ross could be in consideration to be our FS next season.
Still its too early to say, but I think we will be better this season.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:32 pm
the losing for LA theory that is
March 12th, 2013 at 9:32 pm
$34 million is a big contract! For a career backup/rotational player? That’s huge.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:33 pm
nycraider Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:25 pm
cant wait for all the reggie lovers to make excuses for his draft bc he doesnt have a 2nd rounder.
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You’d better believe that’s coming to a blog near you … this one.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:33 pm
Gotta have a stadium in L.A. to have a football team…
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/04/report-aeg-l-a-stadium-proposal-essentially-dead-to-nfl/
March 12th, 2013 at 9:34 pm
00tt00 Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:29 pm
8-8 isnt winning but its saying you are fielding a competitive team and a couple pieces could get you to the playoffs………there is indeed a difference between winning 4 games and 8 games….it impacts the whole physee of the team
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I don’t disagree about a winning culture.
I would dispute that we were a couple of players away.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:34 pm
At the end of the season, the Raiders actually had 11 players in the PFF “green” on defense.
Right now there are three of them for sure on roster next season: Adams, Branch, and Houston. The only negative player for sure gone is Tollefson. He also extended the contract of the 4th worst rated player on the entire team (Brisiel.)
Someone buy Reggie a $26 subscription to PFF Premier Stats!!
March 12th, 2013 at 9:34 pm
Who’s sayin g break the bank for him. But young talents like that aren’t just walking into our lockerroom. At some point common sense has to reign.
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So which is it?
Break the bank, or don’t break the bank?
“Young Talents” aren’t staying on 4-12 teams for 3 million a year. Scrub teams HAVE to overpay. See Cleveland and the Des Bryant contract.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:34 pm
I hate Pete and Tom cable and they are a former rival….faaaaaawk the Seahawks.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:34 pm
We remain the same on offense, and cant be worse on defense after FA and Draft.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:35 pm
JHill, What sense does it make keeping Palmer? And no saying when Reggies done rebuilding Palmer will be surrounded by play off talent. Aint gonna happen. Palmer will retire after this joke of a season, and what assurance do you think Reggie can build a winning program? All he has shown is that he is a good demolition man. That’s all. He’s a IHOP eatin demo man. And his lil bud bud Allen is his IHOP eatin partner.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:36 pm
Lets all be honest with ourselves.
We are not even trying to win next year. There has to be more to the story because Reggie can’t be this bad..can he?
At this point, seriously why not just get rid of everyone making over $2M a year and completely start over.
We are Major League’s Cleveland Indians. I think Vaughn just signed a one year deal along with Willie Mayes Hayes
March 12th, 2013 at 9:37 pm
Jackasspuria Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:28 pm
DT42
Columnist Monte Poole opined McFadden can be traded if the right deal came along…
From his column today (http://www.insidebayarea.com/sports/ci_22776267/poole-raiders-reggie-mckenzie-remains-housecleaning-mode)
There is running back Darren McFadden, taken fourth in 2008, and he also will be traded if the right deal materializes.
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Chubby Checker is so stupid…”We’ve made progress” I don’t give a fvck about salary cap space retard, I wanna win. 8 wins to 4 wins is not progress, then we will be lucky if we get to 2 this year. Yeah Shreg, that’s progress.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:37 pm
El Tato Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:32 pm
We are moving to a 3-4 DEFENSE, signs:
- We will be without our 3 DTs (Seymour, Bryant and possibly Kelly)
- Houston can play 3-4 DE
- Bilukidi played 3-4 DE in college
- Burris and McClain played 3-4 in college
- Tarver and Reggie are 3-4 guys
- LBs are easier to find. 3-4 LBs on the market: Burnett (brother on our roster), Barnett (GB connection), Dansby, Jones (GB),…
I think Brandian Ross could be in consideration to be our FS next season.
Still its too early to say, but I think we will be better this season.
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might be on to something there .. trade down and pick Star as the NT (he’ll fall to the middle of the 1st) and we can pick him up in the 15-20 range … Slolando should be much better at the 3-4 ilb spot and since we have to pay him anyway….
I don’t like him but he is under contract.. and we can keep him all the way up to June 1 I believe before he is due a roster bonus.. Maybe Tarver can talk some sense into him..
March 12th, 2013 at 9:38 pm
Hill Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:29 pm
Jhill, You sound like a girl getting raped and decided to just enjoy it…
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You’re losing it, Priest.
Day by day, you’re going off the deep end. Babbling uncontrollably.
No one wants the visual of little girls being raped, old man.
PLAINLY obvious you are the scorned lover here as what YOU know as the Raider way moves in another direction.
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Another direction had to happen the man is DEAD man. Another direction is fine with me more than it is YOU. I just wnat common sense to be obvious. Any direction right or wrong is what bothers me.
I just wnat to see some comsistency in what the dude is preaching. I’ve moved way past what we use to do because it’s over. But I want to see some leadership and direction instead of scared cluelessness.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:38 pm
RaiderLen Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:27 pm
Just LOSE baby!
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Since 2003.
8-8 isn’t “winning”.
11-5 or better is WINNING in my book.
Super Bowl Victories are the Legacy.
Pretty sure Reggie thinks along these lines.
Al did, His methods were different than Reggie’s.
Many ways to skin the cat.
>>>>
Name one time when it has worked.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:39 pm
JHill, What sense does it make keeping Palmer?
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Because DMac is back to running his favorite plays?
J Ford will be back?
Knapp isn’t here?
Streater and Criner will be studs in year 2?
D Moore will learn how to run routes?
March 12th, 2013 at 9:39 pm
Jackasspuria Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:33 pm
Gotta have a stadium in L.A. to have a football team…
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/04/report-aeg-l-a-stadium-proposal-essentially-dead-to-nfl/
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LA has the means to get a stadium, Oakland doesn’t seem to have the will or the means. The raiders can play a couple of seasons in a crap stadium in la just as easy as they have been in Oakland. The stadium in la will happen especially if they have a team waiting for it.
With a league minimum payroll and all the tv revenue the new owners will still be making serious money, even with a half empty stadium.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:40 pm
Hoping that they can just compete and sign a few free agents, a DJ Williams here, a Keenan Lewis or Greg Jennings there, maybe trade down a few spots, get some players. Add Mike Patterson, Lorenzo Alexander, Adrian Wilson. and a mess of draft picks.
I have hope they can fix this.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:41 pm
CDERaider Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:37 pm
El Tato Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:32 pm
We are moving to a 3-4 DEFENSE, signs:
- We will be without our 3 DTs (Seymour, Bryant and possibly Kelly)
– Houston can play 3-4 DE
– Bilukidi played 3-4 DE in college
– Burris and McClain played 3-4 in college
– Tarver and Reggie are 3-4 guys
– LBs are easier to find. 3-4 LBs on the market: Burnett (brother on our roster), Barnett (GB connection), Dansby, Jones (GB),…
I think Brandian Ross could be in consideration to be our FS next season.
Still its too early to say, but I think we will be better this season.
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might be on to something there .. trade down and pick Star as the NT (he’ll fall to the middle of the 1st) and we can pick him up in the 15-20 range … Slolando should be much better at the 3-4 ilb spot and since we have to pay him anyway….
I don’t like him but he is under contract.. and we can keep him all the way up to June 1 I believe before he is due a roster bonus.. Maybe Tarver can talk some sense into him..
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This does make sense except for the part about McClain.
No way we can keep that loser on this team.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:42 pm
Dakota
If L.A. has the means, stadium would be built and team would be headed that way to play there now.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:42 pm
This does make sense except for the part about McClain.
No way we can keep that loser on this team.
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At this point who knows. Maybe he signs a deal for $10 even though $10 would be a complete waste, at least we got him on the cheap.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:42 pm
Gdog Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:34 pm
At the end of the season, the Raiders actually had 11 players in the PFF “green” on defense.
Right now there are three of them for sure on roster next season: Adams, Branch, and Houston. The only negative player for sure gone is Tollefson. He also extended the contract of the 4th worst rated player on the entire team (Brisiel.)
Someone buy Reggie a $26 subscription to PFF Premier Stats!!
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Ya, Reggie and His staff aren’t aware of game film and statistical break downs.
You keep bringing you PFF pea shooter to a Gun fight.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:43 pm
You guys cap guys think just because we’re getting cap space means something. If this fool doesn’t know what to do with the cap space what the hell good is it?
Every indication is that he doesn’t know this league. Every damn player he gets is off the PS at GB Packers who the hell wants that crap.
You just blindly follow this guy as if he’s won a championship or two. I want to see some damn results worth talking about. Cutting FAT is EASY DO YOU KNOW what to do with the space you have once it’s DONE, That worries me………..period
March 12th, 2013 at 9:43 pm
I have been on this board making the case for palmer for weeks…..I think that stops today……it doesnt make any sense and neither does dmac….get what you could for these guys…….provide contract extension now for veldeer and wiz and draft OL to protect next years number #1 QB draft pick and let the OL gel before the guy gets here
March 12th, 2013 at 9:43 pm
Fact: Pryor could have done 4-12 last year easily. Why keep Palmer? It was a novel idea while it lasted. Gave us hope for a year or so. Till Reggie and DA shoved it down the toilet. Pryor has sat a year behind a good QB and has matured. It is his time now. Let Palmer go in the name of cap money. Think of the savings. Don’t expect Reggie to spend it, but think of how we’ll be 30 mil under the cap. That is so awesome. Pryor will do no worse than 4-12. I say 5-6 wins easily, maybe more. Now your building a young team together, around a QB who is here to stay.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:43 pm
Priest,
You made up your mind on the new GM once he came in and changed everything from the carpet to the head coach. You were CLEARLY offended and have NOT moved on.
You’re in denial.
Nothing will change for you until we see 10 wins or so, so I think it’s kinda pointless to go back and forth with you.
Des Bryant was a good player for us. Not a great player or a potential pro bowl player, imo. To have this sky is falling mentality because of letting someone else overpay???
Makes NO DAMN sense.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:43 pm
El Tato Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:32 pm
We are moving to a 3-4 DEFENSE, signs:
- We will be without our 3 DTs (Seymour, Bryant and possibly Kelly)
- Houston can play 3-4 DE
- Bilukidi played 3-4 DE in college
- Burris and McClain played 3-4 in college
- Tarver and Reggie are 3-4 guys
- LBs are easier to find. 3-4 LBs on the market: Burnett (brother on our roster), Barnett (GB connection), Dansby, Jones (GB),…
I think Brandian Ross could be in consideration to be our FS next season.
Still its too early to say, but I think we will be better this season.
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This is the ONLY thing I have read tonight that makes even a little sense, but explain why Bryant wouldn’t help in a 3-4?
Doesn’t the 3-4 CRAVE versatile linemen? And why lose Wheeler for the 3-4??
March 12th, 2013 at 9:44 pm
Just checking it.
Good day today in Raider Nation. Two longtime overpaid, underproducing players are gone and we didn’t wildly overspend to keep two completely average contributors to a cruddy defense (Bryant, Wheeler).
Can’t wait to see what tomorrow brings!
March 12th, 2013 at 9:44 pm
Streater and Criner will be studs in year 2?
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Very curious as to how these two develop.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:45 pm
are you kiddibg? reggie doesnt compete…he lays down.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:45 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:43 pm
You guys cap guys think just because we’re getting cap space means something. If this fool doesn’t know what to do with the cap space what the hell good is it?
Every indication is that he doesn’t know this league. Every damn player he gets is off the PS at GB Packers who the hell wants that crap.
You just blindly follow this guy as if he’s won a championship or two. I want to see some damn results worth talking about. Cutting FAT is EASY DO YOU KNOW what to do with the space you have once it’s DONE, That worries me………..period
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But we cut our starting safety (who filled in at CB because we picked up a bunch of injury prone garbage last off season) and saved $1.8M. You are not impressed?
March 12th, 2013 at 9:45 pm
anybody recognize I am now on the acceptance stage of my rehab
March 12th, 2013 at 9:45 pm
Name one time when it has worked.
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Sorry, multi tasking here.
When what works, a rebuild?
March 12th, 2013 at 9:46 pm
Chubby Checker is so stupid…”We’ve made progress” I don’t give a fvck about salary cap space retard, I wanna win. 8 wins to 4 wins is not progress, then we will be lucky if we get to 2 this year. Yeah Shreg, that’s progress.
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These dumbells are worried more about cap space than getting players a nd keeping the right ones. Cap Space is everything to them. What if this neophyte has no idea what to do with it when he gets it?
You ever think about that?????
March 12th, 2013 at 9:46 pm
RaiderLen Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:44 pm
Streater and Criner will be studs in year 2?
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they will be standing 20 yards down field watching pryor run in circles in the backfield
March 12th, 2013 at 9:46 pm
CDERaider
That’s one of the lasting and disappointing images from last season for me, Philip Rivers s^%t-talking Bradian Ross after a TD pass.
All All-Pro talking down a practice squad pickup.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:46 pm
Des Bryant was a good player for us. Not a great player or a potential pro bowl player, imo. To have this sky is falling mentality because of letting someone else overpay???
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OVERPAY? I looked at the salaries last night of comparable d-linemen and predicted he’d get 5 mill a year.
Cmon man. I can drink the Reggie Koolade, but not with a turd floating in it. Especially right after it happened.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:47 pm
Sign Wilson, dansby, Andre smith, and Greg Jennings tomorrow and I will be back to pushing to keep Palmer lol.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:48 pm
reggie going to let DA and pryor fail together then next year bring in the real HC of the raiders
March 12th, 2013 at 9:48 pm
00tt00 Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:43 pm
I have been on this board making the case for palmer for weeks…..I think that stops today……it doesnt make any sense and neither does dmac….get what you could for these guys…….provide contract extension now for veldeer and wiz and draft OL to protect next years number #1 QB draft pick and let the OL gel before the guy gets here
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I’m in the same boat. I wanted to keep Palmer because he gives us the best chance to win. And to build a team you need to show you can compete. Obviously, we are not going to even try to compete.
It makes me sick to say this, but keeping Palmer and Mcfadden are basically pointless. If Reggie stays as GM after next year, this will be at least a 7 year process following the way he’s doing it. And at year 7, maybe we will be at 8-8 which was exactly where we were at when he came in.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:49 pm
I would much prefer to have Des Bryant than some damn cap space to get some GB castoff…….lol
March 12th, 2013 at 9:49 pm
00tt00 Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:46 pm
RaiderLen Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:44 pm
Streater and Criner will be studs in year 2?
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they will be standing 20 yards down field watching pryor run in circles in the backfield
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LOL
I like Pryor.
Palmer too.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:49 pm
Reggie = IHOP eatin demo man
Allen = lill bud bud IHOP eatin partnah
March 12th, 2013 at 9:49 pm
00tt00 Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:43 pm
I have been on this board making the case for palmer for weeks…..I think that stops today……it doesnt make any sense and neither does dmac….get what you could for these guys…….provide contract extension now for veldeer and wiz and draft OL to protect next years number #1 QB draft pick and let the OL gel before the guy gets here
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I’m with you. More so on Palmer. I’ve been fighting the haters on here for month over CP3, but after today, it’s pretty clear we’re not serious about putting a decent product on the field in 2013.
I still like him, but might as well let Palmer go. Build the line for next year’s No. 1.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:51 pm
im really curious how you think criner can succeed? he is slow as molasses…slower
March 12th, 2013 at 9:52 pm
RaiderLen Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:45 pm
Name one time when it has worked.
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Sorry, multi tasking here.
When what works, a rebuild?
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Losing so many years in a row… Most teams that hit 8-8 try to stay there and THEN add pieces. Look at Balt. They had one 5 win season awhile back. Did they just dump the entire squad, not keep any key players and start from ZERO?
The teams that go from mediocre to the bottom stay at the bottom. Think Cleveland and Detroit.
Why? Because losing begets losers.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:52 pm
I looked at the salaries last night of comparable d-linemen and predicted he’d get 5 mill a year.
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And I said don’t pay that BEFORE he actually signed somewhere else.
You can’t even say that Bryant would have started for us. He is not a NT. We have Houston and Bilikudi that COULD very well be the starting 3 Tech.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:52 pm
Makes no sense to keep Palmer. Surely Reggie knows this. He’s got his poker face goin. Palmer will be gone by draft day. Reggie will be at IHOP with his laptop and a menu.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:52 pm
Gdog Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:46 pm
OVERPAY? I looked at the salaries last night of comparable d-linemen and predicted he’d get 5 mill a year.
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Yes, overpay. He had three sacks and was almost as bad against the run as Kelly and Seymour. Cleveland’s paying for potential, not proven production. Reggie will get us someone better for less money. Same deal with Wheeler. I like the guy, but he’s not worth what Miami’s paying him.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:53 pm
Palmers family has to be trying to talk him into retiring again. He can’t play with this garbage and survive. Not worth 13 million when you have 80 million in the bank.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:53 pm
RaiderLen Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:49 pm
00tt00 Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:46 pm
RaiderLen Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:44 pm
Streater and Criner will be studs in year 2?
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they will be standing 20 yards down field watching pryor run in circles in the backfield
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LOL
I like Pryor.
Palmer too.
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I like pryor too…really rooting for the kid……I just dont think he’s very good…..give the kid an OL so he can at least have some support
March 12th, 2013 at 9:53 pm
Gdog
Desmond’s deal in Cleveland averages nearly $7 million a year ($6.8) and he got $15 million guaranteed.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:54 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:51 pm
im really curious how you think criner can succeed? he is slow as molasses…slower
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Boldin is real slow, but productive.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:54 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:51 pm
im really curious how you think criner can succeed? he is slow as molasses…slower
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The same way Cris Carter and Wes Welker prospered with pedestrian speed: find room over the middle, get open, outfight the defender for the ball and hang onto it. Criner can do all this.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:54 pm
J Hill Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:52 pm
I looked at the salaries last night of comparable d-linemen and predicted he’d get 5 mill a year.
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And I said don’t pay that BEFORE he actually signed somewhere else.
You can’t even say that Bryant would have started for us. He is not a NT. We have Houston and Bilikudi that COULD very well be the starting 3 Tech.
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Sorry bro, but you’re kidding yourself. Bryant was our best defensive player and Chubby Checker just let him walk.
I’m sure Mark is psyched after today. He’s going to have some serious additional cash to party with over the next year and probably beyond.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:55 pm
J Hill Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:43 pm
Priest,
You made up your mind on the new GM once he came in and changed everything from the carpet to the head coach. You were CLEARLY offended and have NOT moved on.
You’re in denial.
Nothing will change for you until we see 10 wins or so, so I think it’s kinda pointless to go back and forth with you.
Des Bryant was a good player for us. Not a great player or a potential pro bowl player, imo. To have this sky is falling mentality because of letting someone else overpay???
Makes NO DAMN sense.
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Yeah ans you kissed his ass from day one just because his name wasn’t Al Davis. I’m giving him a chnace to prove something to me. Firing Hue Jackson for a rookie coach doesn’t work for me. Then said roolie coach proceeds to stink it up. Doesn’t work for me. I’m not kissing his ass just because he’s who he is “from Green Bay”. I want results if I don’t get them I’m going to BLAST HIS ASS…………period
March 12th, 2013 at 9:55 pm
RaiderLen Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:54 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:51 pm
im really curious how you think criner can succeed? he is slow as molasses…slower
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Boldin is real slow, but productive.
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Boldin is built like a tank. Criner will need to roid up.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:55 pm
jackasspuria Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:53 pm
Gdog
Desmond’s deal in Cleveland averages nearly $7 million a year ($6.8) and he got $15 million guaranteed.
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We got first pickins through Green Bays dumpsters.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:55 pm
I’m with you. More so on Palmer. I’ve been fighting the haters on here for month over CP3, but after today, it’s pretty clear we’re not serious about putting a decent product on the field in 2013.
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I’m throwing the towel in too.
I see no reason to keep Palmer. None. Not unless Reggie suddenly starts dazzling me with free agency. The Winston signing someone suggested would be a great start!
March 12th, 2013 at 9:56 pm
Criner is terrible. He probably shouldn’t even make the roster this year but he’ll probably stick sine he’s one of Reggie’s guys.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:56 pm
Chris In NY Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:54 pm
Sorry bro, but you’re kidding yourself. Bryant was our best defensive player and Chubby Checker just let him walk.
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Please define “best defensive player” on the 28th-ranked unit. Again, it’s not like we don’t like Bryant: he’s just not worth what Cleveland’s paying him.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:56 pm
Donks adding beef up front, reportedly…
ESPN and USA Today report the Broncos are close to an agreement with free agent DT Terrance Knighton.
“Pot Roast” would be reuniting with former Jaguars coach Jack Del Rio in Denver. Knighton would certainly help clog up opposing running lanes, but is coming off a season where he was benched after just four games. The Broncos would be hoping his age (27 in July) and reunion with Del Rio make him a prime bounce-back candidate.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:56 pm
Jackasspuria Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:53 pm
Gdog
Desmond’s deal in Cleveland averages nearly $7 million a year ($6.8) and he got $15 million guaranteed.
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he got $15M…..the avg means nothing…..until you know what each yearly salary is you cant tell if its good or bad…..he probably has some $10m salary in the final 2 years he will never see
March 12th, 2013 at 9:56 pm
Jhill always trys to see the positives, even where none exist. Got to admire that…..
March 12th, 2013 at 9:57 pm
pryor is getting a bum deal not to mention cp
March 12th, 2013 at 9:57 pm
Des Bryant was a good player for us. Not a great player or a potential pro bowl player, imo. To have this sky is falling mentality because of letting someone else overpay???
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That young talented player is just another brick on this crap house this dude is biulding. You cnanot let players like that go because they make a decent buck man. You don’t get that??
March 12th, 2013 at 9:58 pm
Losing so many years in a row… Most teams that hit 8-8 try to stay there and THEN add pieces. Look at Balt. They had one 5 win season awhile back. Did they just dump the entire squad, not keep any key players and start from ZERO?
The teams that go from mediocre to the bottom stay at the bottom. Think Cleveland and Detroit.
Why? Because losing begets losers.
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I don’t know what pieces Baltimore had in place when they were a 5 win Team, or what their cap situation was like.
If you have a roster full of overpaid under performers, I KNOW that’s a recipe for disaster.
That WAS the Raiders under AL, post Gruden.
March 12th, 2013 at 9:59 pm
If the Raids had given Desmond Bryant a $34 million dollar contract, the press would be screaming at the top of its lungs!! Its another Tommy Kelly deal – Raiders overpay again! How stupid they are!!
The guy simply wasn’t productive enough to get *that* kind of money. To compare that contract to the other 2 incredibly overpaid DT contracts and say its ‘less than that’ so therefore we should have done it – is naive. TK and Seymour contracts were probably the most overpaid in the league and Bryant was a backup rotational player!!! Lets not make this guy out to be anything more than he was, a good solid rotational backup with future *potential* to start, he was not a probowl player who was the key to the team. He started at the end of last season due to injuries.
I would have liked to keep him for maybe like 15-18 mill over 4 years but not $34 million! Browns overpaid, big time. Glad we didn’t try to match or go over the top. Those days are gone (hopefully). I hope him the best but we lose a career backup and people lose their minds.. sheezz..
March 12th, 2013 at 9:59 pm
What’s the combined spread for the two Raiders Broncos games this year?
Broncos -100 ????
March 12th, 2013 at 9:59 pm
criner is no boldin not even in his dreams…what has he done that makes you a believer…seriously what? beat out streater, hagan? i dont get it…
March 12th, 2013 at 9:59 pm
A team just guaranteed $15 million to a mediocre run defender with six career sacks.
And people on this board are upset that it wasn’t us…SMH
March 12th, 2013 at 9:59 pm
Dunno Raider Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:52 pm
Makes no sense to keep Palmer. Surely Reggie knows this. He’s got his poker face goin. Palmer will be gone by draft day. Reggie will be at IHOP with his laptop and a menu.
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poker face…..he’s gutting the team…..everyone sees where this is going….no poker face here he is just allowing time for the bidders to come in……vikes, cards, jets, browns…….come on down
March 12th, 2013 at 9:59 pm
I’m trying to give Reggie the benefit of the doubt as much as I possibly can but not telling it like I see it. That’s not giving him a break that’s blind faith based on no evidence whatsoever.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:00 pm
Desmond Bryant was an undrafted free agent.
So was Tommy Kelly.
Des and Tommy are proof you can find contributing players in the dumpster.
Of course, Tommy’s play has dropped off a bit, but, when he first started, he was a good defensive end who eventually landed at tackle.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:00 pm
Boldin is built like a tank. Criner will need to roid up.
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lol, I know a Guy who knows a Guy. lol
March 12th, 2013 at 10:00 pm
I can’t believe there are still some Reggie supporters at this point. Just flat out denial.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:00 pm
jackasspuria Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:53 pm
Gdog
Desmond’s deal in Cleveland averages nearly $7 million a year ($6.8) and he got $15 million guaranteed.
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Mea Culpa… I could have sworn I saw 5 year 25 mill.
Even that isn’t much. The only thing it actually costs is 15 mill… and he could take a lot of that in signing bonus.
We have TONS of cap space starting next year.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:00 pm
CDERaider Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:59 pm
If the Raids had given Desmond Bryant a $34 million dollar contract, the press would be screaming at the top of its lungs!! Its another Tommy Kelly deal – Raiders overpay again! How stupid they are!!
The guy simply wasn’t productive enough to get *that* kind of money. To compare that contract to the other 2 incredibly overpaid DT contracts and say its ‘less than that’ so therefore we should have done it – is naive. TK and Seymour contracts were probably the most overpaid in the league and Bryant was a backup rotational player!!! Lets not make this guy out to be anything more than he was, a good solid rotational backup with future *potential* to start, he was not a probowl player who was the key to the team. He started at the end of last season due to injuries.
I would have liked to keep him for maybe like 15-18 mill over 4 years but not $34 million! Browns overpaid, big time. Glad we didn’t try to match or go over the top. Those days are gone (hopefully). I hope him the best but we lose a career backup and people lose their minds.. sheezz..
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Post of the Hour, right here. Agree completely.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:00 pm
Sir RaiderDuck, OMS Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:59 pm
A team just guaranteed $15 million to a mediocre run defender with six career sacks.
And people on this board are upset that it wasn’t us…SMH
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$15M over 5 year means salary cap hit of $3M per year plus salary…..potentially very low cap numbers
March 12th, 2013 at 10:01 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:51 pm
im really curious how you think criner can succeed? he is slow as molasses…slower
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Blog genius, do you watch any football? You can get open without having speed. What did speed do for DHB?
March 12th, 2013 at 10:01 pm
Let the smoke screens begin!
Looks like Jacksonville is looking to get some trade partners with this report…
Jaguars.com isn’t ruling out the Jags taking West Virginia QB Geno Smith at No. 2 overall.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:01 pm
rudegruden Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:55 pm
RaiderLen Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:54 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:51 pm
im really curious how you think criner can succeed? he is slow as molasses…slower
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Boldin is real slow, but productive.
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Boldin is built like a tank. Criner will need to roid up.
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Yes, or what I like to call the ‘Niner plan’ – everybody on that team is juicing. We need to get some of that..
March 12th, 2013 at 10:03 pm
Bryant is a highly sought after 26 or 27 year old defensive tackle who is obviously going to be a starter and he has Pro Bowl potential. That’s why 6 or 7 teams including top-notch franchises like the Pats and 49ers were after him and at least one offered him 5 years at an average of $7 mil per.
Keep telling yourself that’s not the case, but it’s the truth.
A year or two from now, assuming Reggie is still employed and/or anyone cares to hear what he has to say, he’ll be making excuses about the salary cap as to why he didn’t bring back Bryant. Guaranteed.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:03 pm
Gdog
Afters scouring several media outlets (including Cleveland papers) all said 5-year, $34 million with $15 million guaranteed.
Went to this website as well to see numbers…
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/
Year-by-year numbers are unavailable, but will be there once they are released.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:04 pm
jackasspuria Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 10:00 pm
Desmond Bryant was an undrafted free agent.
So was Tommy Kelly.
Des and Tommy are proof you can find contributing players in the dumpster.
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Yeah and we got screwed when we overpaid ridiculously to keep him after his rookie contract and see what it got us? Let the Browns take the bait this time. TK is good, not ‘great’ – same with Bryant.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:04 pm
RaiderLen Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:58 pm
Losing so many years in a row… Most teams that hit 8-8 try to stay there and THEN add pieces. Look at Balt. They had one 5 win season awhile back. Did they just dump the entire squad, not keep any key players and start from ZERO?
The teams that go from mediocre to the bottom stay at the bottom. Think Cleveland and Detroit.
Why? Because losing begets losers.
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I don’t know what pieces Baltimore had in place when they were a 5 win Team, or what their cap situation was like.
If you have a roster full of overpaid under performers, I KNOW that’s a recipe for disaster.
That WAS the Raiders under AL, post Gruden.
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So you are now trying to pretend Wheeler and Bryant were overpaid under-performers?
Nope… that’s Brisiel. In a nut shell actually. He got an extension.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:05 pm
Bold Moves, Reggie!
March 12th, 2013 at 10:05 pm
Chris In NY Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 10:03 pm
Bryant is a highly sought after 26 or 27 year old defensive tackle who is obviously going to be a starter and he has Pro Bowl potential.
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Or Browns fans could be arguing next January how to cut him with minimal cap hit. They WAY overspent today.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:06 pm
Brownies could shell out as much as they wanted for players and probably out-bid all comers for the guys they got today.
They had $47 million in cap space entering the first day of free agency.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:07 pm
If we trade back with Buffalo, it better be for their 1st this year and next year.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:07 pm
Sir RaiderDuck, OMS Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:59 pm
A team just guaranteed $15 million to a mediocre run defender with six career sacks.
And people on this board are upset that it wasn’t us…SMH
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Who’s that?
I know you’re not talking about Bryant who, despite only getting part-time snaps playing behind two of the highest paid DTs in the league, had 8.5 sacks over the last two years alone and is an exceptional run defender.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:07 pm
Gdog Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 10:04 pm
So you are now trying to pretend Wheeler and Bryant were overpaid under-performers?
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Last year, no. But neither is worth the oversized contracts they got today. Bryant, in particular, is Cleveland taking a page out of Al’s playbook and paying a guy big money based on what he MIGHT do. A guy who just got arrested, mind you.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:08 pm
CDERaider Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:59 pm
If the Raids had given Desmond Bryant a $34 million dollar contract, the press would be screaming at the top of its lungs!! Its another Tommy Kelly deal – Raiders overpay again! How stupid they are!!
The guy simply wasn’t productive enough to get *that* kind of money. To compare that contract to the other 2 incredibly overpaid DT contracts and say its ‘less than that’ so therefore we should have done it – is naive. TK and Seymour contracts were probably the most overpaid in the league and Bryant was a backup rotational player!!! Lets not make this guy out to be anything more than he was, a good solid rotational backup with future *potential* to start, he was not a probowl player who was the key to the team. He started at the end of last season due to injuries.
I would have liked to keep him for maybe like 15-18 mill over 4 years but not $34 million! Browns overpaid, big time. Glad we didn’t try to match or go over the top. Those days are gone (hopefully). I hope him the best but we lose a career backup and people lose their minds.. sheezz..
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Boy you are blind. I had Bryant slated for the starting position there at 3tech. The kid quickness and athleticism is hard to find in the draft we got him for a song it was time to reward that kid. That’s how you show your team what it takes to get paid. I thought when he came in our Dline got better because he and Houston came into their own.
But what I know, maybe he stinks! whew!
Cleveland knows what they got and we don’t even know what we lost………..period
March 12th, 2013 at 10:08 pm
Being a axe man doesn’t make you a builder. No sure thing this team is going to be built. Common sense woulda built on 8-8 a year ago. 0-16 baby! Not my call. Prepare for a gut wrenching season and IHOP specials.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:08 pm
Jaguars.com isn’t ruling out the Jags taking West Virginia QB Geno Smith at No. 2 overall.
It speaks volumes about where the new braintrust stands on Blaine Gabbert. Smith would be a major reach at No. 2, but has a brighter future than Gabbert. It’s also possible the Jags could feign interest in Smith to create a market for the No. 2 pick.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:08 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 10:05 pm
Bold Moves, Reggie!
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they are bold moves…..and I give him credit for that……..whats even worse is a leader that doesnt lead…….davis made bold moves…hue made bold moves……..not all of them work……and in order to succeed you need to have a string of them work
March 12th, 2013 at 10:09 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 10:05 pm
Bold Moves, Reggie!
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LOL. Yup. Kind of like pooping your pants at a party and not bothering to change or even clean yourself up. Just walking around like nothing’s wrong.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:09 pm
Chris In NY Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 10:07 pm
I know you’re not talking about Bryant who, despite only getting part-time snaps playing behind two of the highest paid DTs in the league, had 8.5 sacks over the last two years alone and is an exceptional run defender.
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Exceptional run defender? The best you can say about his run defense is that it wasn’t as bad as Kelly or Seymour’s. That’s kind of like saying someone’s less racist than MistaBrown, or more of a sex symbol than Jan Crouch (Google her if you don’t know who I’m talking about).
March 12th, 2013 at 10:09 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 10:05 pm
Bold Moves, Reggie!
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Breathtaking.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:09 pm
So you are now trying to pretend Wheeler and Bryant were overpaid under-performers?
Nope… that’s Brisiel. In a nut shell actually. He got an extension.
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Not at all.
They might be under their new contracts however.
Sapp, Walker, Routt, on and on and on.
Russell, McClain, DHB, again and again.
You see where I’m coming from now?
March 12th, 2013 at 10:10 pm
Last year, no. But neither is worth the oversized contracts they got today. Bryant, in particular, is Cleveland taking a page out of Al’s playbook and paying a guy big money based on what he MIGHT do. A guy who just got arrested, mind you.
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come on….that arrest was little stupid sht….he didnt kill anyone or put a gun to someones head
March 12th, 2013 at 10:10 pm
Priesttj12
Reggie will appease you by drafting a player with similar skill set to Desmond Bryant in Sharrif Floyd.
Floyd has to work on his run defense, but, Floyd has the quick first step and requisite power Bryant showcased as a Raider.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:11 pm
miami youre right they can get open..and stopped right there since he is slow it will take a pick he will catch a 6 yard pass and get stuffed there…
March 12th, 2013 at 10:11 pm
Jackasspuria Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 10:10 pm
Priesttj12
Reggie will appease you by drafting a player with similar skill set to Desmond Bryant in Sharrif Floyd.
Floyd has to work on his run defense, but, Floyd has the quick first step and requisite power Bryant showcased as a Raider.
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I’d still prefer Star, provided his heart checks out.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:12 pm
Did you know IHOP offers a Philly Cheese Steak?
March 12th, 2013 at 10:12 pm
I wonder how many people are going to be screaming for CP to take a pay cut now?
He’d be like… FOR WHAT??
March 12th, 2013 at 10:12 pm
Im trying to remember, this year is the last in Oakland,unless they extend the lease. Seems they plan on leaving, unless they have a plan not made public. Hope IHop is a sponsor for years to come…
March 12th, 2013 at 10:13 pm
The Chicken Fajita Omelette sounds interesting.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:14 pm
fvck shrek fvcking idiot
March 12th, 2013 at 10:14 pm
Tough day.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:15 pm
CP probably already told reggie what teams he wants him to work on for a trade….AZ, min, jets make most sense….and jets will have extra pick after revis trade
March 12th, 2013 at 10:15 pm
Okay, lots of good players still out there. The question is, will Reggie just sit on the cap space, or will we try and field a decent team while we rebuild through the draft?
March 12th, 2013 at 10:16 pm
I been screaming this for a long time. Reggie needs to do some serious ball licking and get IHOP to finance a new stadium deal. They would get the naming rights too. Imagine the possibilities. A stdium shaped like a stack of pancakes.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:16 pm
RaiderLen Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 10:09 pm
So you are now trying to pretend Wheeler and Bryant were overpaid under-performers?
Nope… that’s Brisiel. In a nut shell actually. He got an extension.
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Not at all.
They might be under their new contracts however.
Sapp, Walker, Routt, on and on and on.
Russell, McClain, DHB, again and again.
You see where I’m coming from now?
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No.. because nobody cared when they weren’t resigned.
Most anyone that watches the game knows that Bryant and Wheeler were worth good contracts… or at least ONE of them should have been. You don’t see anyone complaining about losing DHB here do you?
March 12th, 2013 at 10:16 pm
we have cap space yes…..but we have to sign over 20 friggin players
March 12th, 2013 at 10:16 pm
Reggie made the correct moves/cuts today, Huff’s contract made him unreadable.
Mark made the right decision in hiring McKenzie.
I expect Reggie has a few trade partners for Palmer, McClain, Bergstrom, McFadden, and our #3 overall.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:16 pm
Gdog Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 10:12 pm
I wonder how many people are going to be screaming for CP to take a pay cut now?
He’d be like… FOR WHAT??
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It will be interesting as to how the Palmer situation plays out.
I think Reggie is gonna ask Him to take a pay cut, but who knows?
Huff was asked to take a cut according to a couple of reports, and well….wack!
March 12th, 2013 at 10:16 pm
fvck reggie he is too stupid to lead a team…
March 12th, 2013 at 10:18 pm
Ever seen a IHOP menu? There is a ton of choices. Stuffed French Toast? WOW.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:19 pm
It’s time for the Raiders to get out of Oakland and start anew.
Fans aren’t even supporting the team anymore. What’s there to support?
Tarping off 10,000 seats? Cmon. It’s over. Time to move on.
If this blog is any indication Raiders have the worst friggin fans in the world anyway. Losers…content to go 0-16 so you can draft a dlineman who might work out?
Pathetic. Al Davis’s memory deserves better.
Oakland doesn’t deserve the Raiders and the Raiders don’t deserve Oakland. Since this is a 7 yr. rebuild or whatever you losers are talking you’re looking at 20k fans at the games and worlds of embarrassment.
Let it go. You losers have already given up anyway.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:20 pm
Dakota Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 10:15 pm
Okay, lots of good players still out there. The question is, will Reggie just sit on the cap space, or will we try and field a decent team while we rebuild through the draft?
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We’ll see. I’m pretty doubtful, but if he brings in one of the three RTs I wanted (Loadholt, Smith or Vollmer) AND a good TE (even though I really wanted Delanie Walker) AND resigns MM34 AND hits on some of his trademark dumpster diving moves in a way he didn’t last year, then maybe I’ll give him another chance.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:20 pm
Most anyone that watches the game knows that Bryant and Wheeler were worth good contracts… or at least ONE of them should have been. You don’t see anyone complaining about losing DHB here do you?
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Dude, I watch the games and like Wheeler and Bryant.
I’m not into overpaying.
Al over paid for all of the guys I mentioned.
By the way, the PFF good book is a reference material, if you base all of your opinion on it, you are missing a lot.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:21 pm
$7 million/year for Bryant? No thanks.
Once the smoke has cleared, many of you will be thankful Reggie stayed clear of first day action and accepted a comp pick in return.
Complain about Brisiel. Complain about Branch. Both valid reaches by Big Mac. But don’t get too worked up about being quiet on the 1st day of free agency.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:21 pm
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A Calfornia based LLC. Reggie, what are you waiting for. It’s a win/win.
Imagine:
IHOP Field Stadium, Home to the Oakland Raiders
March 12th, 2013 at 10:22 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 10:16 pm
Reggie made the correct moves/cuts today, Huff’s contract made him unreadable.
Mark made the right decision in hiring McKenzie.
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Exactly. Does the panic over losing Desmond Bryant remind anyone else of a year when these same people spent MONTHS saying “AH MAH GERD! REGGIE TRADED AWAY *B E A S T* CAMPBELL! THE GUY’S GONNA BE AN ALL-PRO THIS YEAR! OH NOES! HELP US JAYZUZ!”
This, of course, would be the same Bruce “Beast” Campbell who was inactive (coaches’ decision) for over 10 games this year and never saw the field even when he WAS active.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:22 pm
Gene Upshaw, Core Player
Steve Wiznewski, Core Player
L’il Wiz?
March 12th, 2013 at 10:22 pm
none of these so called fans live in oakland…doubt they even live in cali…
March 12th, 2013 at 10:22 pm
i believe vollmer and loadholt resigned with their teams……at least im sure about loadholt
March 12th, 2013 at 10:23 pm
Some of you complain way too much, you make it sound like Reggie just let Suh & Von just walk, and we cut Revis, Fitzgerald, & Willis.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:23 pm
reggie did the right thing..finally someone who has common sense and realize that our situation was that we had to clean house…we wont compete this year or maybe next..but it had to be done…i dont wanna stay in mediocrity like we have been in the last 10 yrs..its gettin worse now, but it will only get better…way to go reggie
March 12th, 2013 at 10:24 pm
The 3tech is the key to a 4/3 alignment. He sets the tone and frees up your DE to make plays. That is why Cowboy for the Forty Niners was soo valuable Justin Smith set the tone on that line. Des Bryant had rounded into a very good 3tech. That’s why Cleveland paid what they paid for a vitual unknown to the average fan because of the competition for his services.
I know we have LHouston to take that space but DB and LH had changed to complexion of our Dline. Reggie think Crawford is ready to take Des’s place is the ONLY reason I can think of why he would do this. Or Sharif Floyd will be our pick come the draft because if one of those is NOT the case losing Des Bryant was completely and totally foolish…………..period
March 12th, 2013 at 10:24 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 10:16 pm
fvck reggie he is too stupid to lead a team…
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You would prefer Al giving Bryant a guaranteed $10 million a year for the next six seasons or whatever?
You really don’t even care about wins and losses, do you? You’re just punk sore at Reggie because he’s not Al. It’s OK. You can admit it.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:25 pm
SBreport @SBreport
Keep hearing about this huge market for Huff, Wheeler, Bryant, Wheeler, Seymour, etc. You’d think #Raiders had a top defense last year.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:25 pm
Rams and Seahawks have been very aggressive so far – they both have extra picks (even though Hawks gave a couple away for Migraine they still have like 8 more plus comp picks coming). Rams have 2 1sts and 2 2nds – we might be able to swing a trade with one or both of these teams. They both are in that ‘2-3 players away from a run’ mode so might be ready to deal to move up for an elite player. Even the whiners might want to deal their #31 and #33 (plus a 3rd and 5th) to get to #3.
Plus, you *know* they’ll be a run on QB’s – as always never fails – Geno and Barkley will have ‘perfect’ pro days so you know the hype meters will be off the chart to get the ‘top’ qb. We could still see the Bills, Jets, Dolphins, Cards or others make a move on draft day trying to trump the Eagles who pick #4. And Reggie won’t be asking for too much – a 1st round swap, a 2nd (or a 2014 1st or 2nd) and a 4th or lower round pick and maybe some 6-7th next year. Less than face value for sure.
Heck, can even throw in a Roland McClain for good measure. I bet Pete Carrol or Jeff Fisher or Rex Ryan wouldn’t mind getting their hands on him thinking it was just ‘being in Oakland’ that was the problem and he’ll turn it around (which he just might for a strong-willed HC).
All in all, things are still *very much* open for 1 or 2 trade downs in this deep draft and if that happens, all this cutting of the fat will come in *very* handy as we then can pick and sign much needed young talent. Like 9-10 draft picks and 3-4 UFA would be great.
Could make for a fun draft and offseason as we see new faces come in and hopefully get the foundations built.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:25 pm
he just has to draft…3 cbs, 3 safties, 3 dts, 2 wrs, 2 qbs, 3 ol, 3 lbs, 2 rbs…
March 12th, 2013 at 10:25 pm
its not the panic over losing dez and wheeler the problem…its the sense that no good players will come here unless its the last stop
March 12th, 2013 at 10:26 pm
Every Stadium has a corporate sponsor and some have private fiancing. Reggie, show your balls and get after it. Get that stadium deal and you’ll get 65K fans every home game. Even with a team of scrubs and GB cast offs.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:26 pm
its just other teams know they are talent…
March 12th, 2013 at 10:26 pm
Exactly. Does the panic over losing Desmond Bryant remind anyone else of a year when these same people spent MONTHS saying “AH MAH GERD! REGGIE TRADED AWAY *B E A S T* CAMPBELL! THE GUY’S GONNA BE AN ALL-PRO THIS YEAR! OH NOES! HELP US JAYZUZ!”
This, of course, would be the same Bruce “Beast” Campbell who was inactive (coaches’ decision) for over 10 games this year and never saw the field even when he WAS active.
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Hey! I was all about beast as a developmental project.
At least he was a cheap experiment. lol
Besides “Savage” Carlisle has been on His last legs for 3 years now.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:26 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 10:23 pm
Some of you complain way too much, you make it sound like Reggie just let Suh & Von just walk, and we cut Revis, Fitzgerald, & Willis.
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Exactly. Wheeler and Bryant are perfectly ordinary NFL players who just got paid like superstars. I certainly don’t begrudge it to them, but overpaying guys is what got us into this mess in the first place (and what keeps teams like Cleveland and Miami in the cellar perpetually).
March 12th, 2013 at 10:26 pm
Ok TSR, just Hope He doesnt GUT, no pun intended,the Offense tomorrow…Did a good job on our D today…
March 12th, 2013 at 10:29 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 10:25 pm
SBreport @SBreport
Keep hearing about this huge market for Huff, Wheeler, Bryant, Wheeler, Seymour, etc. You’d think #Raiders had a top defense last year.
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Poor coaching and mostly Reggie’s fault by not having one edge rusher on the entire freaking roster. Plus a pair of 30-year-old CBs who were injured right off the bat.
If you watch those individual players play, you understand that they’re quite good, despite the overall failure of the team’s defense.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:29 pm
Try and sign Winston at rt as our one big free agent splash and then take a risk on Fred Davis at te coming off injury, then maybe try and get some older players like dansby, Bart Scott, Adrian Wilson, jammer at bargain prices?
Then draft star or Floyd at #3?
Pick a wr in round 3?
March 12th, 2013 at 10:29 pm
Hey Ian Rappaport…..I thought Palmer was as good as gone. Lol.
Scratch him off the list of reliable sources.
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He was not talking by today.. he was talking by JUNE 1st when Palmer’s contract becomes GUARENTEED
March 12th, 2013 at 10:32 pm
Damn havnt been here in a while and looks like were the new lions, hope we do good in the draft cause I don’t see how we can compete losing this many players at once. I mean look what that did to the secondary last year. Hope these guys no what ther doing cause next seasons looking bleak already
March 12th, 2013 at 10:32 pm
Hendu Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 10:26 pm
Ok TSR, just Hope He doesnt GUT, no pun intended,the Offense tomorrow…Did a good job on our D today…
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Somebody on Twitter pointed out that except for DHB (who was being paid like a #1 WR when he’s a #4 at best), Reggie didn’t touch the offense. He knows that with a proper coordinator (which we now hopefully have), the O is not the problem.
As for the D: People who complain about losing guys on the #28-ranked defense remind me of those women on Survivor who hit the beach and then whine when everybody starts building a shelter and expects them to help. “We’re just taking a reasonable break!” Uh no, when you don’t have a shelter or food, there’s no such thing as a “reasonable break.” Same with our D. There should be no such thing as a “best lineman” on that horrid excuse for a front seven.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:32 pm
Palmer and McFadden are gonners. Fitzpatrick talking to Oakland, last pick could be a qb for the #3 or Grads coming here through the back door.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:32 pm
Dakota Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 10:29 pm
Try and sign Winston at rt as our one big free agent splash and then take a risk on Fred Davis at te coming off injury, then maybe try and get some older players like dansby, Bart Scott, Adrian Wilson, jammer at bargain prices?
Then draft star or Floyd at #3?
Pick a wr in round 3?
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I thinks Winston’s KC contract was for about 4.5 to 5 mil.
Don’t know what He’s worth now.
Less I presume.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:33 pm
A disheartening day for Raiders fans. One of many since Reggie was hired — Hue fired, Allen hired, Knapp hired, last year’s draft, 12 mostly lopsided losses, and now this — with surely more to come.
Nice recommendation, Madden and Wolf.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:33 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 10:08 pm
CDERaider Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:59 pm
If the Raids had given Desmond Bryant a $34 million dollar contract, the press would be screaming at the top of its lungs!! Its another Tommy Kelly deal – Raiders overpay again! How stupid they are!!
The guy simply wasn’t productive enough to get *that* kind of money. To compare that contract to the other 2 incredibly overpaid DT contracts and say its ‘less than that’ so therefore we should have done it – is naive. TK and Seymour contracts were probably the most overpaid in the league and Bryant was a backup rotational player!!! Lets not make this guy out to be anything more than he was, a good solid rotational backup with future *potential* to start, he was not a probowl player who was the key to the team. He started at the end of last season due to injuries.
I would have liked to keep him for maybe like 15-18 mill over 4 years but not $34 million! Browns overpaid, big time. Glad we didn’t try to match or go over the top. Those days are gone (hopefully). I hope him the best but we lose a career backup and people lose their minds.. sheezz..
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Boy you are blind. I had Bryant slated for the starting position there at 3tech. The kid quickness and athleticism is hard to find in the draft we got him for a song it was time to reward that kid. That’s how you show your team what it takes to get paid. I thought when he came in our Dline got better because he and Houston came into their own.
But what I know, maybe he stinks! whew!
Cleveland knows what they got and we don’t even know what we lost………..period
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Priest, he was a backup. A backup. A solid backup, but a backup. We know what he is – he was here for 4 dam years – as a rotational backup.
You don’t pay a backup $34 million and btw, when did the *Browns* know that they were doing, ever?!!!
Bryant will do in Cleveland what he did here, he’ll be a good rotational player. Flash a bit at times but play good to avg most of the other times. That’s why Reggie let him walk.
Cuz that’s not worth $34 million.
I applaud him for not biting on that donut ..
March 12th, 2013 at 10:33 pm
no one is going to take reggies word…it means sh!t, restructured huff and cut him, restructed brisell, restructured branch, word gets around. Oakland has really become the last stop…cuts lechlar, wheeler, etc
March 12th, 2013 at 10:35 pm
Chris in NY Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 10:33 pm
A disheartening day for Raiders fans. One of many since Reggie was hired — Hue fired, Allen hired, Knapp hired, last year’s draft, 12 mostly lopsided losses, and now this — with surely more to come.
Nice recommendation, Madden and Wolf.
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Madden is so dis interested now he reads comic books if he’s at a Raider game. And Wolf, we know why on that one.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:35 pm
So wher do we start fist dline secondary linebackers?
March 12th, 2013 at 10:35 pm
Chris in NY Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 10:03 pm
Bryant is a highly sought after 26 or 27 year old defensive tackle who is obviously going to be a starter and he has Pro Bowl potential. That’s why 6 or 7 teams including top-notch franchises like the Pats and 49ers were after him and at least one offered him 5 years at an average of $7 mil per.
Keep telling yourself that’s not the case, but it’s the truth.
A year or two from now, assuming Reggie is still employed and/or anyone cares to hear what he has to say, he’ll be making excuses about the salary cap as to why he didn’t bring back Bryant. Guaranteed.
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That is a very astute observation. All Reggie doing is using the cap as an excuse to do what he wants to do anyway. What if Sharif Floyd ends up a bust? you had a talent YOU knew could play all you had to do is pay him. Now we need to use a draft pick to do what we already had complete. We should’ve paid him drafted a DE to go with LHouston and Des and have one of the youngest talented lines out there.
All I can say is Jack Crawford better be worth what this idiot just did………..period
March 12th, 2013 at 10:36 pm
doesnt matter….shrek gave up
March 12th, 2013 at 10:39 pm
Hey Preist, you know if AL had a priority as to what positions he spent his money on in the CAP era?
Did He value certain positions over others?
You know, how would He best allocate his resources over position groups?
Or was it just haphazard?
March 12th, 2013 at 10:41 pm
With Bryant gone, Star or Floyd?
I had assumed Bryant would be on the Roster.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:42 pm
Reggie supporters:
We all know and must admit that any jack@ss can just come in and indiscriminantly slash and burn a roster. So, without relying on ‘this guy or that guy sux and Reggie got rid of him,’ rhetoric, please share with us what additions and wheeling and dealing your beloved GM has done so far that have improved this team.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:43 pm
Fk it, just blow it all the way up Reggie. Trade Palmer and McFadden if you can. Draft floyd or star. Start Pryor and a bunch of undrafted free agents and get clowny in 2014. Then get out qb in 2015 and then use the cap space.
Bitter pill, but long-term it might work.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:44 pm
Reggie’s trade partner for McClain, Baltimore; they’ve lost ellerbe, kruger, and ray lewis all at once.
You read it here first.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:44 pm
I bet REGGIE can find a UDFA to match BRYANTS PRODUCTION.
However Kamerion WIMBLEY and AARON CURRY both on twitter saying CONGRATS TO BRYANT CUZ he deserves it.
Ya iknow we finished 8-8.. but I miss that 2010 defense. Some games the smashed in the 4th quarter like against Sandiego.. KAMERION WIMBLEY rushing the passer was nice. Made the entire DLINE BETTER
SOmetimes we’d have 6 DBACKS.. ASO, ROUTT, C JOhnson, HUFF, STEVIE BROWN , BRANCH
March 12th, 2013 at 10:46 pm
As a new generation of bootlickers step to the forefront in defense of Reggies demolition, the true Raider fan watches in grief and pain the long journey which is about to become a futile attempt at saying to be patient while ten years of cellar dwelling is about to occur.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:46 pm
Baltimore can’t afford mcclains contract.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:47 pm
Chris In NY Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 10:42 pm
Reggie supporters:
We all know and must admit that any jack@ss can just come in and indiscriminantly slash and burn a roster. So, without relying on ‘this guy or that guy sux and Reggie got rid of him,’ rhetoric, please share with us what additions and wheeling and dealing your beloved GM has done so far that have improved this team.
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He picked up Wheeler….oh wait
March 12th, 2013 at 10:47 pm
Albert Breer@AlbertBreer
Know what’s interesting to me about the gutting of the Raiders? That Hue Jackson fielded a pretty good team with the guys on the outs there.
Retweeted by Michael Silver
March 12th, 2013 at 10:47 pm
Fk it, just blow it all the way up Reggie. Trade Palmer and McFadden if you can. Draft floyd or star. Start Pryor and a bunch of undrafted free agents and get clowny in 2014. Then get out qb in 2015 and then use the cap space.
Bitter pill, but long-term it might work.
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yep.. and next year Raiders will have all kinds of cap space. Right now Palmer is our only true VET /TALENT.. but today proves REggie is not gonna pay him that. IDK whats gonna happen.. but
I do know Raiders will be having tryouts LOL.. Reggie has the roledex to these agents..gonna let all these UDFA’s know come to the Raiders and make the team.
Ellerbe was Undrafted just got paid today, Desmond Bryant UDFA, Arian Foster UDFA, Victor Cruz UDFA, STREATER
Talent to be had. REGGIE GOES TO WORK!
March 12th, 2013 at 10:48 pm
Albert Breer@AlbertBreer
Know what’s interesting to me about the gutting of the Raiders? That Hue Jackson fielded a pretty good team with the guys on the outs there.
Retweeted by Michael Silver
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Please man.. SOme RAIDERS Fans been saying that since week 2 on these boards.. ITs been aruging forever
HUE had Campbell go down, DMAC , FORD, the passing of the GM owner etc etc.. still almost had us at playoffs.
Thats the past now
March 12th, 2013 at 10:48 pm
its disgusting isnt it? Reggie is underestimating the real raider fan base…
March 12th, 2013 at 10:49 pm
What FA is going to want to come here unless this is his last resort?
March 12th, 2013 at 10:50 pm
if i was an agent and reggie called…id tell him
no thanks…
March 12th, 2013 at 10:50 pm
Now you know why AL DAVIS overspent for his players.. its cuz they would make that .. prolly more as FA’s .. the NFL just loves our talent dont they??
As far as im concerned Dennis Allen still has alot to prove.. still a Private.. now go feel them water canteens BOI
March 12th, 2013 at 10:50 pm
Open Competition, 1227 Harbor Bay Parkway, Alameda, Ca 94502.
Carson, you up to it?
March 12th, 2013 at 10:51 pm
Somebody give me something to hope on for this season….
Looking dim!!!
March 12th, 2013 at 10:51 pm
Dunno Raider Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 10:46 pm
As a new generation of bootlickers step to the forefront in defense of Reggies demolition, the true Raider fan watches in grief and pain the long journey which is about to become a futile attempt at saying to be patient while ten years of cellar dwelling is about to occur.
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That’s a real long way of saying Ten and Then! lol
So Reggie is just eating at IHOP and stumbling around in a sugar coma….lol
He has no bonafides, and lucked into the job because Mark Davis is a clueless twit, that just wants to party and spend Daddies money.
Love the part about the “True” Raider fan.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:51 pm
Chris In NY Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:41 pm
CDERaider Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:37 pm
El Tato Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 9:32 pm
We are moving to a 3-4 DEFENSE, signs:
- We will be without our 3 DTs (Seymour, Bryant and possibly Kelly)
– Houston can play 3-4 DE
– Bilukidi played 3-4 DE in college
– Burris and McClain played 3-4 in college
– Tarver and Reggie are 3-4 guys
– LBs are easier to find. 3-4 LBs on the market: Burnett (brother on our roster), Barnett (GB connection), Dansby, Jones (GB),…
I think Brandian Ross could be in consideration to be our FS next season.
Still its too early to say, but I think we will be better this season.
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Yo, Chris. At least a lot of people that talked on DhB will be satisfied.
But do J.Ford, Streater, Moore, Criner and ??? Sessions have enough to put some points on the board – were still without a true no. 1
Could Reggie get Greg Jennings?
Could he get Adrian Wilson?
Nick Barnett?
DJ Williams?
AJ Jefferson?
Who we looking at in the draft? – Damontre Moore? Jarvis Jones? (spine injury is risky?
March 12th, 2013 at 10:51 pm
why even have a drsft if reggie is so talented with ufa?
March 12th, 2013 at 10:51 pm
Even a free ‘business’ meeting meal at IHOP won’t be enough to lure decent FAs.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:52 pm
I told you guys that all those butt kissing comments to the fans at condos award dinner were targeted at trying to soften the blow when reality rained down on us that we are going to suck cok fOr the foreseeable future.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:52 pm
RAIDERS are having OPEN TRYOUTS this weekend!!
March 12th, 2013 at 10:54 pm
I tell u what.. IF IF IF we make a play at DJ WILLIAMS
and if if if if DUMBERVIL gets cut.. and RAiaders go after him..that would be a start
Adrian wilson or drafting Cyprien in the draft would be better. Raiders wwere at his pro day
March 12th, 2013 at 10:55 pm
Team is probably moving to a 3-4 Defense anyway so not signing Bryant could just be another step.
If so, we trade down and draft Star to be the day 1 starter at NT, starting line is Houston and Bilukidi at DE’s – rotate in Crawford and Andre Carter (or Vanden Bosch or whoever else they can sign for vet min or rookie). Even Shaughasty could be a good DE in a 3-4 and will be cheap to sign.
Rest of the draft focus on OLB, Safety, CB, RT/G, RB. Acquire MLB, WR, TE and depth in UFA or FA. We need impact play at Linebacker and Safety (especially Safety) if the 3-4 is going to work.
Tarver is supposed to be the wiz kid at 3-4 – so with a strong front line anchored by Star (who is an absolute beast) and some young talent at OLB and good coaching we might be able to move to the middle of the pack on D and if so, the team will be much better moving forward.
The D has been broken for years, time to rethink it.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:55 pm
Bring over the European Raiders. Get’em for a dime on the dollar. House them in some bunks deep in the bowels of the O. Show your balls!
March 12th, 2013 at 10:55 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 10:48 pm
its disgusting isnt it? Reggie is underestimating the real raider fan base…
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That’s because Reggie ain’t a true Raider. He doesn’t get hit. He enjoys taking a big, ole IHOP style dump on everything Raiders and the way we were.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:55 pm
Crawford is not ready.. the kid was just aprospect when drafted.. he was horrible last year.. just got pushed aside…
March 12th, 2013 at 10:56 pm
wondering which of these guys reggie has circled…
The Green Bay Packers signed TE Brandon Bostick, QB B.J. Coleman, T Andrew Datko, C Garth Gerhart, G Joe Gibbs, LB Micah Johnson, CB James Nixon and S Chaz Powell. The transactions were announced Monday by Executive Vice President, General Manager and Director of Football Operations Ted Thompson.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:57 pm
Reggies scouting department is gonna shock the nfl world with the dumbest picks ever.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:57 pm
All of em. One-stop shopping. More time for pancakes.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:58 pm
we already had chaz poweel last year in camp.. was 1st rounds of cuts
March 12th, 2013 at 10:58 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 10:55 pm
Crawford is not ready.. the kid was just aprospect when drafted.. he was horrible last year.. just got pushed aside…
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I don’t remember him being active ever. Can’t say I was paying much attention at the end of the season.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:58 pm
Priest, he was a backup. A backup. A solid backup, but a backup. We know what he is – he was here for 4 dam years – as a rotational backup.
You don’t pay a backup $34 million and btw, when did the *Browns* know that they were doing, ever?!!!
Bryant will do in Cleveland what he did here, he’ll be a good rotational player. Flash a bit at times but play good to avg most of the other times. That’s why Reggie let him walk.
Cuz that’s not worth $34 million.
I applaud him for not biting on that donut ..
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CDE, thanks for the effort but let me just say it like this……….you don’t know what the hell you’re talking about…..thanks for listening!
March 12th, 2013 at 10:58 pm
Still cant believe BRYANT cashed out like that… what are the browns thinking I could see 4yr 20 million maybe ..
March 12th, 2013 at 10:59 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 10:52 pm
RAIDERS are having OPEN TRYOUTS this weekend!!
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There you go. Reggie thinkin outside the box. Gotta love it.
March 12th, 2013 at 10:59 pm
crawford was bergstrom on defense…
March 12th, 2013 at 10:59 pm
Good analysis CDE. I like it
March 12th, 2013 at 10:59 pm
I don’t remember him being active ever. Can’t say I was paying much attention at the end of the season.
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think he was activ for a few games.. he played in blowout losses we had and wasnt very good. like he was playing at half speed. he has the frame tho
March 12th, 2013 at 11:00 pm
That’s because Reggie ain’t a true Raider. He doesn’t get hit. He enjoys taking a big, ole IHOP style dump on everything Raiders and the way we were.
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Reggie Played for the Raiders….You?
March 12th, 2013 at 11:00 pm
Dont forget the A’s were counted out last year.. were gonna have 100 loses..
a bunch of young guys who were projected to be a few years off rallied as a TEAM..
u never know.. 10 wins this season! get the right mix of guys
March 12th, 2013 at 11:01 pm
reggie played for the raiders cuz al took a chance on him…shrek repays him like this?
March 12th, 2013 at 11:01 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 10:59 pm
he played in blowout losses we had and wasnt very good. like he was playing at half speed.
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Hmmm that could be just about anybody on this team during just about any game.
March 12th, 2013 at 11:01 pm
RaiderLen Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:00 pm
That’s because Reggie ain’t a true Raider. He doesn’t get hit. He enjoys taking a big, ole IHOP style dump on everything Raiders and the way we were.
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Reggie Played for the Raiders….You?
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So did Sapp. So did/does McClain. I’ve never considered them true Raiders either.
March 12th, 2013 at 11:01 pm
Another Raiders NT prospect – projected late 1st round Raiders could tap for NT after a trade down.
Jesse Williams, DT, Alabama 6′3 323
STRENGTHS: Has a naturally wide frame with relatively short limbs, giving him the low center of gravity conducive to holding up at the point of attack.
Possesses unbelievable weight-room strength (600 pound bench press) that translates well onto the football field due to his use of leverage and surprisingly good technique considering the fact that he’s a relative neophyte who only took up the game at age 15 and has played just four seasons of football in the United States.
Has improved his use of hands over his two seasons at Alabama and has developed into a cognitive defender capable of reading the action, shedding the block with heavy, active hands and making the tackle in the hole.
Has the length to play outside as a five-technique defensive end, a role in which he initially played during his junior season with the Tide before sliding inside to the nose as a senior. Good phone-booth quickness and plays hard, competing to the whistle.
Also served as Alabama’s short-yardage fullback in 2012, a testament to his power and aggression. An ascending talent with passion and work ethic to improve.
WEAKNESSES: Bit of a one-trick pony as Williams does not possess the quickness or the agility to collapse the pocket as a pass rusher. Must do a better job of protecting his knees as he is susceptible to cut blocks. Too often raises his pad level at the snap, negating some of his power and making him all the more vulnerable to cuts, as he possesses only moderate flexibility.
Has to do a better job of getting his hands up in passing lanes as he rarely gets home as a pass rusher (just three passes broken up in 25 career starts at Alabama).
Plays with good effort but lacks lateral agility and struggles to knock down ballcarriers with any room to maneuver.
COMPARES TO: Vince Wilfork, New England Patriots — Like the Patriots’ run-stuffing nose guard, Williams isn’t going to pressure the quarterback often but his size and strength will make him a force in the middle.
March 12th, 2013 at 11:02 pm
Reggie worked for Green Bay longer than he played for the Raiders.
March 12th, 2013 at 11:03 pm
ChitSuckz
March 12th, 2013 at 11:04 pm
Chris In NY Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:01 pm
RaiderLen Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:00 pm
That’s because Reggie ain’t a true Raider. He doesn’t get hit. He enjoys taking a big, ole IHOP style dump on everything Raiders and the way we were.
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Reggie Played for the Raiders….You?
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So did Sapp. So did/does McClain. I’ve never considered them true Raiders either.
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OK,
True Raiders. lol
March 12th, 2013 at 11:04 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 10:50 pm
Now you know why AL DAVIS overspent for his players.. its cuz they would make that .. prolly more as FA’s .. the NFL just loves our talent dont they??
As far as im concerned Dennis Allen still has alot to prove.. still a Private.. now go feel them water canteens BOI
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YOU MUST pay your talent or else YOU wont have any…………period
March 12th, 2013 at 11:04 pm
i honestly dont think mark couldve fvcked ip this hire as bad as he did…oh well no renewal from me…i dont care if they have buy one get one free…
March 12th, 2013 at 11:05 pm
Johnathan Jenkins, DT, Georgia 6′4 346 – projects late 1st, early 2nd round.
STRENGTHS: Built like a Coke machine and is just as difficult to move. Has a wide frame with thick, strong limbs. Good strength and use of leverage (generally) to hold up to double-teams and create a pile. Surprisingly quick off the snap and can split gaps to destroy plays before they’ve even begun.
Good lateral agility, balance to slide laterally in pursuit of the ballcarrier to string out the play while fighting off blockers. Keeps his hands active, showing good effort, strength and technique to battle his ways towards the quarterback.
Good bull rusher. Can simply drive opponents backward. Locates the ball well and shows good effort to the flanks. Slips off of blocks to grab on and drag down ballcarriers attempting to slip past him. Very good strength for the drag-down tackle.
Versatile. Has lined up virtually all over the Georgia defensive line. Appears to possess long enough arms to potentially play the five-technique role, as well as at nose guard or defensive tackle.
WEAKNESSES: Provides little in terms of an interior pass rush. Is simply too wide to not get slowed down while squeezing through tight gaps in the interior line and has only phone booth quickness.
Wears down quickly and will need to be substituted often to be fully effective in the NFL. Allows his pad level to rise as he tires, which negates his strength.
COMPARES TO: B.J. Raji, NG, Green Bay Packers — Like the former Boston College standout, Jenkins’ mass and strength are the most obvious of his impressive physical characteristics, but surprisingly light feet and willingness to fight through blocks to provide some interior pass rush are attributes which could lead to a steady ascent as the draft approaches.
March 12th, 2013 at 11:05 pm
Getting rid of DHB will help the Raiders.
Denarius Moore, Jacoby Ford, Streater, and Crinor will do ok.
Pryor at QB, and Marcel Reece and McFadden at RB. Release Palmer.
Draft some defensive line and offensive line help.
March 12th, 2013 at 11:05 pm
Dunno Raider Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:02 pm
Reggie worked for Green Bay longer than he played for the Raiders.
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And?
He played for the Raiders.
He is a Raider.
March 12th, 2013 at 11:06 pm
Night Fellas,
This week will be interesting.
March 12th, 2013 at 11:07 pm
he is no raider the guy smells like cheese still…embarressed every time that idiot opens his mouth.
March 12th, 2013 at 11:08 pm
dmc gotta be pissed no obe ti keep the safety back now…
March 12th, 2013 at 11:09 pm
Well the good thing is this endeth the great Palmer/Pryor debate. I don’t think anyone wants the poor guy to have to endure another bottom rated defense and a GM committed to losing.
A winning franchise needs clear vision and a strong positive message! Reggies message is clear… you all SUCK and I want you all gone so we can improve later.
What player would want to be part of that atmosphere?
March 12th, 2013 at 11:09 pm
RaiderLen Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 10:39 pm
Hey Preist, you know if AL had a priority as to what positions he spent his money on in the CAP era?
Did He value certain positions over others?
You know, how would He best allocate his resources over position groups?
Or was it just haphazard?
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Sure just like anyone else he prioritised certain positions. namely Corner, DE and players who scored points and stop points from being scored. The rest was just how talented were you and how much of a leader were you.
Nothing much different than anyone else IMHO!
March 12th, 2013 at 11:10 pm
Gdog Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:09 pm
Well the good thing is this endeth the great Palmer/Pryor debate. I don’t think anyone wants the poor guy to have to endure another bottom rated defense and a GM committed to losing.
A winning franchise needs clear vision and a strong positive message! Reggies message is clear… you all SUCK and I want you all gone so we can improve later.
What player would want to be part of that atmosphere?
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Brady Quinn?
March 12th, 2013 at 11:11 pm
we can field a quinn carr competition..
March 12th, 2013 at 11:11 pm
Dunno Raider Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 10:51 pm
Even a free ‘business’ meeting meal at IHOP won’t be enough to lure decent FAs.
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We have to get off this Reggie Mckenzie-IHOP connection. Its our GM, and that aint helping. Just ride with the team, and back it – he’ll get the players. All that other stuff is just counter-productive.
March 12th, 2013 at 11:12 pm
Or Reggie can go OLB in round 1 and get a NT in 2nd or 3rd – this guy should be avail at 15-20 in draft after a trade down.
Alec Ogletree, OLB, Georgia 6′3 242
STRENGTHS: A former safety, Ogletree showed off his terrific range and athleticism, making plays all over the field in 2012 and was often the best player on a defense loaded with NFL talent.
Terrific quickness around the edge, capable of making stops in the backfield and is fast in pursuit. Doesn’t shy from making the big hit. Arrives with deceiving power and violent intentions. Lengthy frame, athleticism and experience in coverage. Has the long arms scouts like from linebackers.
Excellent special teams player whose ball skills were demonstrated when he leapt high to snatch an onside kick early against LSU in the SEC Championship game.
WEAKNESSES: Needs to be more consistent filling against the run and tackling with better pad level. Leaner than ideal frame. He’ll need to show greater strength in disengaging from blockers. Off-field concern following a four-game suspension in 2012, reportedly for violating Georgia’s substance-abuse policy.
COMPARES TO: Sean Weatherspoon, OLB, Atlanta Falcons — If Ogletree can play with a little more control, he can equal the production of the Falcons’ star and perhaps even surpass him. Frankly, there isn’t a more exciting linebacker prospect in the 2013 draft.
March 12th, 2013 at 11:12 pm
sam fvck reggie and his ihop maple syrup splashes…the guy is killing the raiders in order to move the team.
March 12th, 2013 at 11:13 pm
Chris In NY Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 10:55 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 10:48 pm
its disgusting isnt it? Reggie is underestimating the real raider fan base…
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That’s because Reggie ain’t a true Raider. He doesn’t get hit. He enjoys taking a big, ole IHOP style dump on everything Raiders and the way we were.
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This is what Dumbass’s resort to.
March 12th, 2013 at 11:13 pm
just cuz reggie/allen are doin it their way don’t mean it’s the right way. Apologists need to know this. What have they done right? Proper? Correct? For the team? These are serious questions apologists need to ask themselves of the Reg/DA connection. Are we going to make the playoffs? Not for at least 10 years seems a safe bet. Your call.
March 12th, 2013 at 11:13 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 10:50 pm
Open Competition, 1227 Harbor Bay Parkway, Alameda, Ca 94502.
Carson, you up to it?
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You can stop now. You win. Nobody wants a 4000 yard passer to be part of a team committed to losing.
I wouldn’t even be surprised if Reggie offers him his 13 million and he retires instead.
I would!
March 12th, 2013 at 11:14 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:04 pm
i honestly dont think mark couldve fvcked ip this hire as bad as he did…oh well no renewal from me…i dont care if they have buy one get one free…
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No real Raiders fan would ever say that. I guess we’re seeing some people’s true colors today.
Since you’re no longer a Raiders fan, will you be lurking in the Chargers board from now on?
March 12th, 2013 at 11:14 pm
I think more than anything it wasn’t so much how much he paid. He just felt you had to have great corner and a greta LT and DE, one speed WR and a possesion rec’r a TE with some speed and great HB and a big back. His QB had to be a winner more than anything because the QB’s stats didn’t mean much to Big Al if he didn’t win games.
Those were always consistant elements in how he biult his teams. That is why he drafted Pryor not because he was the prettiest passer and had great stats it was because he WON………period
March 12th, 2013 at 11:17 pm
Gdog Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:13 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 10:50 pm
Open Competition, 1227 Harbor Bay Parkway, Alameda, Ca 94502.
Carson, you up to it?
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You can stop now. You win. Nobody wants a 4000 yard passer to be part of a team committed to losing.
I wouldn’t even be surprised if Reggie offers him his 13 million and he retires instead.
I would!
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Just because the majority of Raider Nation & Management disagree with a fan from Idaho doesn’t make them stupid. Get over yourself.
March 12th, 2013 at 11:17 pm
Well i’m out. Hope you apologists dream of pancakes, waffles and maple syrup tonight while the rest of us Raider fans lie awake restless in anguish over the demolition of what could have been a good Raider club last year and this year. IHOP
March 12th, 2013 at 11:17 pm
priest, that sounds right. Al had the formula right…i questioned it for a little bit but then i started to record the games and watch them over and over again…He was right all along, those are the positions where you need the talent.
March 12th, 2013 at 11:18 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:07 pm
he is no raider the guy smells like cheese still…embarressed every time that idiot opens his mouth.
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Embarrassed every time someone calls somebody an idiot and they can’t spell.
March 12th, 2013 at 11:18 pm
silly child get an iphone…
March 12th, 2013 at 11:18 pm
Dunno Raider Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:13 pm
just cuz reggie/allen are doin it their way don’t mean it’s the right way. Apologists need to know this. What have they done right? Proper? Correct? For the team? These are serious questions apologists need to ask themselves of the Reg/DA connection. Are we going to make the playoffs? Not for at least 10 years seems a safe bet. Your call.
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Before today, I knew the defense was going to be average at best because we needed upgrades at 6 out of 11 players. Tough, but not impossible. Now we need upgrades at 9 out of 11 players. Houston and Branch are our only players that would start on another team.
How clear does it have to be that Reggie could care less about winning right now? If he doesn’t, why should I?
Or why should Carson? Or why should any current player?
March 12th, 2013 at 11:20 pm
Gdog Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:09 pm
Well the good thing is this endeth the great Palmer/Pryor debate. I don’t think anyone wants the poor guy to have to endure another bottom rated defense and a GM committed to losing.
A winning franchise needs clear vision and a strong positive message! Reggies message is clear… you all SUCK and I want you all gone so we can improve later.
What player would want to be part of that atmosphere?
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But they did pretty much all suck. I love the purge and there is still a lot of talent left in FA. There are still going to be further cuts after the draft too. Miami and Cleveland will be exposed as suckers just like the Eagles were last year.
March 12th, 2013 at 11:20 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:17 pm
Gdog Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:13 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 10:50 pm
Open Competition, 1227 Harbor Bay Parkway, Alameda, Ca 94502.
Carson, you up to it?
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You can stop now. You win. Nobody wants a 4000 yard passer to be part of a team committed to losing.
I wouldn’t even be surprised if Reggie offers him his 13 million and he retires instead.
I would!
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Just because the majority of Raider Nation & Management disagree with a fan from Idaho doesn’t make them stupid. Get over yourself.
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So you WANT Palmer back now? And who is from Idaho?
March 12th, 2013 at 11:20 pm
Gdog Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:18 pm
Dunno Raider Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:13 pm
just cuz reggie/allen are doin it their way don’t mean it’s the right way. Apologists need to know this. What have they done right? Proper? Correct? For the team? These are serious questions apologists need to ask themselves of the Reg/DA connection. Are we going to make the playoffs? Not for at least 10 years seems a safe bet. Your call.
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Before today, I knew the defense was going to be average at best because we needed upgrades at 6 out of 11 players. Tough, but not impossible. Now we need upgrades at 9 out of 11 players. Houston and Branch are our only players that would start on another team.
How clear does it have to be that Reggie could care less about winning right now? If he doesn’t, why should I?
Or why should Carson? Or why should any current player?
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March 12th, 2013 at 11:22 pm
If they are going to rebuild, than just do it the right way and cut CP and trade DMC for as many pics as you can.
March 12th, 2013 at 11:22 pm
It’s always some fan from bum fk, Idaho who has all the ” Truths”
March 12th, 2013 at 11:23 pm
To me everybody can go but Palmer, Houston, Wiz and Veldeheer in that order.
With 20 mill in cap space:
- I do expect a run for Jennings
- RM might go for a proven TE like Davis or Keller
- I have heard is looking for Carlisle replacement
- Pencil Bergstrom to right tackle
These 3 moves should make the Offense solid
It’s obvious the draft will be all defense
March 12th, 2013 at 11:24 pm
Pryor is better than Palmer.
Reece is better than McFadden.
Dennis Allen is an idiot.
March 12th, 2013 at 11:25 pm
It’s always some fan from bum fk, Idaho who has all the ” Truths” about the Oakland Raiders.
You try to reason with them, maybe educate them a little bit………………….
March 12th, 2013 at 11:26 pm
DKnight007 Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:22 pm
If they are going to rebuild, than just do it the right way and cut CP and trade DMC for as many pics as you can.
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I’m sure they will
March 12th, 2013 at 11:26 pm
DKnight007 Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:22 pm
If they are going to rebuild, than just do it the right way and cut CP and trade DMC for as many pics as you can.
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Agree. They should have traded DMC before last season when he still had some decent trade value.
March 12th, 2013 at 11:26 pm
Just Win Baby Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:20 pm
Gdog Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:09 pm
Well the good thing is this endeth the great Palmer/Pryor debate. I don’t think anyone wants the poor guy to have to endure another bottom rated defense and a GM committed to losing.
A winning franchise needs clear vision and a strong positive message! Reggies message is clear… you all SUCK and I want you all gone so we can improve later.
What player would want to be part of that atmosphere?
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But they did pretty much all suck. I love the purge and there is still a lot of talent left in FA. There are still going to be further cuts after the draft too. Miami and Cleveland will be exposed as suckers just like the Eagles were last year.
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Ha ha ha! Kind funny to watch the Palmer haters switch places now. Suddenly you are MORE optimistic because we lost three of our starters? Well four with DHB.
You DO realize all four had positive metrics on PFF??
March 12th, 2013 at 11:27 pm
Total makeover on defense. And needed. Among the worst defense’s consistently the last decade – especially the last 4 years. Anything will be better than how it’s been. We might see only 6 players on the roster from last year.
Burris, Branch, Houston, Bilukidi, Adams, Crawford – 4 potential starters in this group and we might re-sign Shaughessy before its done.
Total makeover. And a switch to 3-4 at that. At least the opposing teams will have no tape on us for the 1st 1/4 of the season..
March 12th, 2013 at 11:28 pm
Just Win Baby Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:26 pm
DKnight007 Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:22 pm
If they are going to rebuild, than just do it the right way and cut CP and trade DMC for as many pics as you can.
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Agree. They should have traded DMC before last season when he still had some decent trade value.
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Wool obviously. If I had known Reggie was committed to losing, I would never have argued with any of you fools.
He should have dumped the entire team actually… which makes the Seymour restructure look even MORE moronic.
March 12th, 2013 at 11:29 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:22 pm
It’s always some fan from bum fk, Idaho who has all the ” Truths”
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They have filthy piss ghettos in Idaho too. You might like the indian reservation. Dont try to be an elitist when nobody even values your opinion.
March 12th, 2013 at 11:32 pm
Just Win Baby Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:29 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:22 pm
It’s always some fan from bum fk, Idaho who has all the ” Truths”
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They have filthy piss ghettos in Idaho too. You might like the indian reservation. Dont try to be an elitist when nobody even values your opinion.
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Ok.
March 12th, 2013 at 11:35 pm
Who’s on the clock, Tommy Kelly or Carson Palmer?
March 12th, 2013 at 11:37 pm
Ian85 Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:26 pm
DKnight007 Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:22 pm
If they are going to rebuild, than just do it the right way and cut CP and trade DMC for as many pics as you can.
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I’m sure they will
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About time you woke up dpsht. Now go back to sleep while the grown ups talk football.
March 12th, 2013 at 11:40 pm
Sign cliff avril
March 12th, 2013 at 11:43 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:37 pm
Ian85 Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:26 pm
DKnight007 Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:22 pm
If they are going to rebuild, than just do it the right way and cut CP and trade DMC for as many pics as you can.
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I’m sure they will
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About time you woke up dpsht. Now go back to sleep while the grown ups talk football.
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Just LOSE baby!
Night folks…
March 12th, 2013 at 11:46 pm
Sadly the team that seems poised and “doing it right” is the stinkin 9balls. Built thru the draft even b4 they got Harblows and have a ton of talent a ton of draft picks cap space and a new stadium. I am even more bitter than I was in 1990….
March 12th, 2013 at 11:47 pm
Just LOSE baby!
Night folks…
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Gnite Loser.
March 12th, 2013 at 11:49 pm
And the bastards got Boldin for a 7th round pick. A 7!!!!!
And we are tryin to get a 7 for McDouche. Get real…
March 12th, 2013 at 11:51 pm
It was a 6th, Jlofty the…………….ignor
March 12th, 2013 at 11:51 pm
Not too happy losing Wheeler. Or Bryant. The latter was one of our few draft/ufa successes. Fk!
March 12th, 2013 at 11:52 pm
Hahaha Debo please Ur the biggest joke and laughing stock on the blog just like Ur fat pathetic drug addict hero JA fatass god Ur a fcking loser lay off that purple drank man
March 12th, 2013 at 11:53 pm
Whatever kook. 6th 7th does it matter?
March 12th, 2013 at 11:54 pm
Ian85 Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:52 pm
Hahaha Debo please Ur the biggest joke and laughing stock on the blog just like Ur fat pathetic drug addict hero JA fatass god Ur a fcking loser lay off that purple drank man
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You can’t do better than a stupid azzed comment lime that?
March 12th, 2013 at 11:55 pm
841. Ding ding ding! The kid finally gets it!
March 12th, 2013 at 11:55 pm
Just hope the Reg hits some home runs inthe draft this year. We freakin need em…
March 12th, 2013 at 11:55 pm
JLofty Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:53 pm
Whatever kook. 6th 7th does it matter?
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Only when you’re wrong all the time dumbass.
March 12th, 2013 at 11:58 pm
That was supposed to be for post 841.. lol.
March 12th, 2013 at 11:59 pm
I mean 847… too much sleepy trees
March 12th, 2013 at 11:59 pm
Boy I hope that Dr Tarver DC has some CRAZY WICKED schemes up his keister cuz he is not goi BBC g to have much talent back there it seems. Hope he coached up Crawford Bilukidi etc.
Sign Nnamdi!!
March 13th, 2013 at 12:00 am
Draft a pass rusher. Sign at least one cb. Maybe Porter…
March 13th, 2013 at 12:00 am
KoolKell Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:54 pm
Ian85 Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:52 pm
Hahaha Debo please Ur the biggest joke and laughing stock on the blog just like Ur fat pathetic drug addict hero JA fatass god Ur a fcking loser lay off that purple drank man
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You can’t do better than a stupid azzed comment lime that?
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Lime that ? Lol I think u mean like that isn’t it way past Ur bed time old troll?
March 13th, 2013 at 12:01 am
Reg has just 3 more turds to shake loose.
March 13th, 2013 at 12:03 am
No 4 turds.. i keep forgetting slow isnt cut yet.
March 13th, 2013 at 12:03 am
“In total, they need starters at 13 different positions: Wide receiver, tight end, offensive guard, offensive tackle, running back, both defensive tackles, defensive end, inside and outside linebacker, free safety, cornerback, and punter.”
Might as well cut Palmer and Kelly too. It does not make sense to keep them.
Reggie has no clue what he is doing. Dude is lost and should be fired.
March 13th, 2013 at 12:04 am
I wonder what Lechler’s market is looking like?
March 13th, 2013 at 12:04 am
Really kook? Wrong all the time? You smoking the crack pipe again or just drunk?
Wtf? You got me confused with some one who cares old man. Wrong about what? Name anything…dum@$$
March 13th, 2013 at 12:06 am
RaidO Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 12:03 am
“In total, they need starters at 13 different positions: Wide receiver, tight end, offensive guard, offensive tackle, running back, both defensive tackles, defensive end, inside and outside linebacker, free safety, cornerback, and punter.”
Might as well cut Palmer and Kelly too. It does not make sense to keep them.
Reggie has no clue what he is doing. Dude is lost and should be fired.
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With the Bold Moves Reggie made today, he must feel pretty confident, no?
March 13th, 2013 at 12:06 am
Punters don’t rock the first day of FA in case you just tuned in to nfl football kook….
March 13th, 2013 at 12:06 am
Great day to be a Raiders fan eh……man I hope Reggie’s plan works out, at this point I don’t see his vision but its a long offseason and I hope he makes some solid sound moves in the coming days/months to give us an idea of what it is.
the defense is the main question, we could go either way 3-4 or 4-3, really we have 1 LB and 2 DL but Kelly is probably gone so we have 1 of each, Reggie has alot of work to do but I really don’t know how much worse this defense could be from last year…………now that I think about it Im pretty sure alot of us said that last offseason, lets hope he does alot better this offseason with his decisions
March 13th, 2013 at 12:12 am
Realtruraider I think his plan is to survive ‘13 with a parity type record maybe an 8-8 and build mo going into ‘14 with rebuilt roster some draft picks on roster a few more that April and some cap room. Not lime there was much of choice. Those who thought we were close in 10 , 11 were delusional…
March 13th, 2013 at 12:14 am
Lime.
March 13th, 2013 at 12:14 am
And yes I know we have Crawford and Bilikudi, but Im talkin starters, I just don’t see those guys as anything but backups at most. Houston is our lone starter on the DL once we cut Kelly
March 13th, 2013 at 12:22 am
I think willy mayes hayes is gonna be our new fs..
March 13th, 2013 at 12:22 am
JLofty Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 12:06 am
Punters don’t rock the first day of FA in case you just tuned in to nfl football kook….
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You really think I just tuned into Raider Football, dumbass?
March 13th, 2013 at 12:23 am
Next man up…
March 13th, 2013 at 12:24 am
Might be alot of worst raider team ever debates this yr…
March 13th, 2013 at 12:26 am
time to cut anyone over 30 or injury prone
March 13th, 2013 at 12:26 am
Just think, we don’t have that horrible roster that was holding Palmer back, anymore
March 13th, 2013 at 12:27 am
No kook I think, no, I have observed, that you are a moron. You’re lucid about one day a week and prone to posting while markedly devoid of sobriety. Too bad cuz sometimes you have worthy things to say. Then you go and try to talk trash and dump all measure of class, civility and intellect. To each his own…
March 13th, 2013 at 12:28 am
Reggie: Hey Carson, whatup?
March 13th, 2013 at 12:29 am
JLofty Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 12:27 am
No kook I think, no, I have observed, that you are a moron. You’re lucid about one day a week and prone to posting while markedly devoid of sobriety. Too bad cuz sometimes you have worthy things to say. Then you go and try to talk trash and dump all measure of class, civility and intellect. To each his own…
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Whatever lying dumbass.
March 13th, 2013 at 12:30 am
Ok, Gnite…………………er……………
March 13th, 2013 at 12:33 am
What about bringing back Thomas Howard to play outside linebacker for us??? He was having a great season before he got hurt. I’d love to get ahold of Eric Winston, Tracy Porter, Cary Williams, Brad Jones, Daryl Smith, D.J. Williams, Dan Conner, Mike Patterson, King Dunlap….
March 13th, 2013 at 12:34 am
Thomas Howard. At this point we could do much worse…
March 13th, 2013 at 12:35 am
Way to class it up kook….
March 13th, 2013 at 12:38 am
I get the feeling the Reg is going to draft his way into some of these starter positions. Maybe play Branch at fs and mm3×4 at ss. Sign a cheap cb or two. Need some LBs tho. Man its tough to see the light tnite…
March 13th, 2013 at 12:41 am
There is still some talent out there!!! I’d be happy with mid level players, as long as they play their asses off for us!!! Anythings better than last year!!
March 13th, 2013 at 12:52 am
draft
Sharrif Floyd, Dt, Florida
Barret Jones (acquired via trade down) G/C, Bama
Leon McFadden, CB, SDSU
Malliciah Goodman, DE S.Carolina
Steadman Bailey, WR, W.Virginia
Kwame Geathers, NT, Georgia
Herman Lathers, OLB/ILB, Tennessee
Braden Brown, G, BYU
Jake Stoneburner, TE, Ohio St.
udfa
DE Anthony McCloud, Florida St. Vaughn Telemaque, Miami, FS
OT Matt Summers-Gavin, Cal OLB/S D.Holloman, S.Carolina
CB Travis Howard, Ohio St. FS Kemal Ishmael
OLB/DE Quanteras Smith, W.Kentucky SS Deone Bucannon, Wash St.
DT Cory Grissom , S.Florida
J.C. Tretter, Cornell
FB Zach Line, SMU
OT Luke Marquardt, Azusa-Pacific
DT/E Baker Steinkuhler
free agency
Eric Winston, Tracy Porter, D.J. Williams, Mike Patterson
March 13th, 2013 at 12:53 am
I’m not really heartbroken about the losses. Although Wheeler was my favorite player on a bad defensive team–he always seemed to be hustling on the field.
BUT, now that we have 16 million in cap space, I want to see some acquisitions.
March 13th, 2013 at 12:58 am
I heard that we had 23 million……..
March 13th, 2013 at 12:58 am
After seeing all these moves, I only have 2 questions:
Why did Reggie waited until this year to scrap the team? We could be out from under all that dead money already and still have been just as competitive as the sorry team he fielded last year. I mean, he didn’t seriously cut our starting DB’s from the year before and think that Bartell, Spencer, or Lee could start and get us to the playoffs. These moves are clearly a throwing in of the towel for next season, too, so why’d he wait?
And why keep Palmer now? Older QB, who’s just gonna get beat down when we have no chance of winning. We should dump him and turn it over to Pryor. I mean, how much worse off could we be?
I guess this is part of rebuilding the Raiders. Last pre-season and this pre-season are the first two times in my life that I felt we had no chance before the season started.
March 13th, 2013 at 1:10 am
These cuts and Free Agency losses really highlight the need to trade down in this draft.
With the loss of wheeler I would say that Ogletree has got to be climbing up the Raider’s draft boards. Not at 3 overall but in a trade down.
I would still like us to target Lacey in the 2d,(Trade-Down scenario) but our D is razor thin now. Could still be viable if we go heavy on Defense in Free Agency though.
March 13th, 2013 at 1:14 am
KoolKell Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 12:06 am
RaidO Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 12:03 am
“In total, they need starters at 13 different positions: Wide receiver, tight end, offensive guard, offensive tackle, running back, both defensive tackles, defensive end, inside and outside linebacker, free safety, cornerback, and punter.”
Might as well cut Palmer and Kelly too. It does not make sense to keep them.
Reggie has no clue what he is doing. Dude is lost and should be fired.
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With the Bold Moves Reggie made today, he must feel pretty confident, no?
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OK Raider fans here is your PROOF POSITIVE the Raiders are going in the right direction. These two idiots have never gotten anything right. And I mean EVER. So if they are upset, the Raiders are going in the right direction.
March 13th, 2013 at 1:14 am
The interesting thing to me is RM is cutting Tollefson the same day he cuts two Raiders who were former 1st round (top 10) draft picks of AL Davis…..when was the last time two former first round Raider picks were cut the same day? Answer. NEVER. RM is trying to hide the fact that he is cutting a guy who he brought in last season (a guy that was his guy-a guy who he added to this team) by removing him the same day as Huff & DHB. I don’t take issue with the cutting of Huff and I think based on production DHB should have restructured his contract at some point (maybe he wouldn’t)….my point is that RM has brought in a number of guys in the last year who HE HIMSELF has already cut……I thought this guy was a EXPERT talent evaluator? Think Again.
March 13th, 2013 at 1:19 am
backstageatapuppetshow Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 1:14 am
The interesting thing to me is RM is cutting Tollefson the same day he cuts two Raiders who were former 1st round (top 10) draft picks of AL Davis…
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You’re right. Those top ten Al picks just killed the league. Jamarcus, McFadden, Huff, Gallery, DHB, there should be a wing in the Hall of Fame just to demonstrate to the rest of the world how NOT to draft players.
March 13th, 2013 at 1:20 am
RaiderMario420 Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 12:58 am
After seeing all these moves, I only have 2 questions:
Why did Reggie waited until this year to scrap the team?
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That’s the most disturbing part. Did he really believe that he could compete with Knapp as the OC? And then later say McFadden was more suited to power-blocking?
He also got burned big time by Seymore, who tanked half of the season. If he would have cut him last year there would have been some big cap savings this year.
But Seymore’s laziness is not necessarily Reggie’s fault.
March 13th, 2013 at 1:26 am
Backstageatapuppetshow Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 1:14 am
The interesting thing to me is RM is cutting Tollefson the same day he cuts two Raiders who were former 1st round (top 10) draft picks of AL Davis
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Interesting point. Also, he let walk his arguably best acquisition in Wheeler. Does not look promising at the moment but nobody on that D was a legit playmaker so it still is a wash. There are now less and less excuses for losing though.
March 13th, 2013 at 1:30 am
Seymour, while you’re making your point..why stop there?
You forgot some other 1st round AL DAVIS picks:
Jano (future HOF)
Charles Woodson (future HOF)
Tim Brown (future HOF)
Marcus Allen (HOF)
Ray Guy (Possible HOF)
Jack Tatum (HOF)
Gene Upshaw (HOF)
March 13th, 2013 at 1:44 am
Jack Tatum (possible HOF)
March 13th, 2013 at 1:46 am
Hungry Bears got me all twisted!!! Cant believe he let Bryant and wheeler get away…tsk tsk…Sign Shaugnessy!!!
March 13th, 2013 at 2:10 am
devilr8er Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:41 pm
All these teams that are spending money wildly will have to restructure these contracts. There is krazy money being thrown around. I like Reggie’s plan get mid level FA and build through the draft.
A lot of people have said it, when have you seen the Steelers, Packers, Patriots reach for FA. We had done it for years and got us no where.
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Yep. That’s the plan. But you wouldn’t know it from some of the comments on here.
March 13th, 2013 at 2:19 am
Dunno Raider Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 10:46 pm
As a new generation of bootlickers step to the forefront in defense of Reggies demolition, the true Raider fan watches in grief and pain the long journey which is about to become a futile attempt at saying to be patient while ten years of cellar dwelling is about to occur.
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And how would that compare to the last 20 years?
March 13th, 2013 at 2:22 am
None of these players being released is a suprise.
Huff may be resigned but we’ve watched DHB not catch the ball long enough.
DHB is a great guy and he can block but we definitely need a receiver who shows he can be depended on to catch the ball as well as block.
I don’t know that Tollefson got a fair shot but Tarver just decided he didn’t like him. The guy only cost $3 million a year.
What gets me is that $32 million of dead money.
That’s just pathetic management.
March 13th, 2013 at 2:40 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:21 pm
We are becoming the Seattle Supersonics in front of our eyes.
Some of these moves seem like a chance to shore up the books to make the sale of the team more feasibly and marketable.
Seriously. If Mark wants out and we got no stadium in place, who knows what becomes of us.
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Now that’s a thought which also occurred to me.
We had 17 free agents and didn’t sign any of them.
Bryant to Cleveland and Wheeler to Miami…
At the beginning of last year, McKenzie and Allen both insisted more than once that it wasn’t time to rebuild.
Yet this year we’ve got some kind of a demolition plan working.
March 13th, 2013 at 2:44 am
I’d take a chance on Shonn Greene!!!
March 13th, 2013 at 2:46 am
DMC&Shonn Greene running wild over defenses!! Hopefully they’d both stay healthy. I hope we can get Eric Winston to be our RT, he looks like a Raider!!! He’s got a Nasty streak to him!!!!!!!
March 13th, 2013 at 2:53 am
Dennis Allen’s head coaching acumen combined with this roster = 1-15 or 2-14.
March 13th, 2013 at 2:54 am
I agree we need a big back, maybe we could let Marcel be our big back and use that kid outta North Texas to be our fullback or that hoese kid.
March 13th, 2013 at 2:55 am
nycraider Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 7:42 pm
the raiders players played hard last year, but they sucked. you need some talent to be successful
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What fuking games were you watching?
March 13th, 2013 at 3:14 am
Priesttj12 Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 11:04 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 10:50 pm
Now you know why AL DAVIS overspent for his players.. its cuz they would make that .. prolly more as FA’s .. the NFL just loves our talent dont they??
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YOU MUST pay your talent or else YOU wont have any…………period
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Then please explain why most of the teams that have sustained success over the last decade or so in the NFL routinely let free agents walk if they won’t re-sign for a reasonable price
I agree that Dez Bryant is a fine young player on the rise, and your description of his abilities is accurate if a little generous. But nearly 7 million per year sounds a little steep for a guy who hasn’t been a full time starter yet. Not that I don’t think he’s entirely capable of that, I do. But often second stringers are exposed when thrust into a full time role. It’s not like the guy has been a star. 7 million per year– let him walk and use the money to sign value free agents
March 13th, 2013 at 3:23 am
Reggie Mac is definitely a Raider. Played ILB a few years in late 1980s before getting hurt. Late round draft pick who started as a rookie.
And, he’s the 7th listed ILB on the Raiders All-Time, All-Mean Team – The Meanest Raiders Ever
A real Raider. If you don’t believe me, I’ll bring back the Raiders All-Time All-Mean Team. That is a threat.
As far as his abilities as a GM, lets hope he gets better in his second year. But I’m still high on his potential.
March 13th, 2013 at 4:01 am
Reggie just used a laxative on this team… got rid of all the schitty players… blowing for Clowney 2013
March 13th, 2013 at 4:13 am
Cant believe Wheeler and Bryant wasnt signed.. 2 actually good players on the roster… we might as well cut the rest and go for 0-16 to be sure we get that top pick and the good QB in next years draft..
March 13th, 2013 at 4:15 am
Reggie just used a laxative on this team… got rid of all the schitty players
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LOL!
he’s only half done.
me thinks the turd purge will continue into mid-August
March 13th, 2013 at 4:20 am
Whelp, I’ve read comments from Chris in NY, Dakota, Gdog & Otto stating we should cut or trade Carson.
the Palmer Cult is rapidly going up in flames…
SeyGlenn & Purv better fetch some buckets of water and then try to reel these guys back in or the IBA Palm support group will completely diminish!!
March 13th, 2013 at 4:25 am
At the beginning of last year, McKenzie and Allen both insisted more than once that it wasn’t time to rebuild.
Yet this year we’ve got some kind of a demolition plan working.
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England,
Mark, Reggie & Dennis wanted to give these players a shot under new management. A clean slate, if u will.
They were rewarded with a 4-12 season and another awful cap mess to deal with. I think they finally realized the culture isn’t going to change unless you get rid of the overpaid underachievers. Some vets were just check cashers, remember what CJ37 said?
I don’t blame them for trying to win right away last year. Reggie couldn’t afford to cut everybody in one offseason anyways.
March 13th, 2013 at 4:31 am
I don’t think we’ll have less than 4 wins next year, even if the gutting continues and we see Palmer, DMAC, Kelly & McClain ousted (hopefully traded)
I’m ready for a young & hungry team full of piss & vinegar. no more scholarships. no more starting players who don’t practice or show up during the offseason
Reggie may not be very active the first 3 days of free agency, which is fine. He will find bargains and we will still compete in every ballgame.
March 13th, 2013 at 4:33 am
Percy was sleepy too!
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/13/migraines-no-longer-a-concern-for-percy-harvin/
take notes JaMarcus
March 13th, 2013 at 4:34 am
Wheeler gone, means we’re picking a linebacker and going to a 3-6 base. JARVIS JONES!
March 13th, 2013 at 4:34 am
sorry, I meant 3-4
March 13th, 2013 at 4:35 am
I hope Raiders suck in 2013 so we get a top pick in 2014, and that we then draft a QB
March 13th, 2013 at 4:36 am
rod… I’d like to see a 3-6 base =)
March 13th, 2013 at 4:41 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 4:20 am
Whelp, I’ve read comments from Chris in NY, Dakota, Gdog & Otto stating we should cut or trade Carson.
the Palmer Cult is rapidly going up in flames…
SeyGlenn & Purv better fetch some buckets of water and then try to reel these guys back in or the IBA Palm support group will completely diminish!!
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If your blowing up the roster might as well trade Palmer and DMC…fuk it, blow it all to smithereens!!
GAME OVER!
START OVER, in London, Las Vegas, Canada, Mexico or Los Angeles…we’re just one step closer.
March 13th, 2013 at 4:42 am
Keeping Darren = 2 win season
Trade him, draft Lacey.
March 13th, 2013 at 4:55 am
One simple question. Since its imminently clear that we have NO CHANCE in 13 why in g*ds name is Palmer on our roster (same for Kelly)? Cutting them (even to save a dollar ala Huff) would make sense. Burn it down and lets see what we have with Pryor.
Its almost cruel to Palmer at this point…
This franchise now officially resembles an open sore on an anu5….
Thanks Al, Mark, Reggie…
GHOST TOWN at the coliseum -every- Sunday next year.
Good, this ‘franchise’ (lol) deserves it.
March 13th, 2013 at 5:12 am
900.backstageatapuppetshow Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 1:30 am
Seymour, while you’re making your point..why stop there?
You forgot some other 1st round AL DAVIS picks:
Jano (future HOF)
Charles Woodson (future HOF)
Tim Brown (future HOF)
Marcus Allen (HOF)
Ray Guy (Possible HOF)
Jack Tatum (HOF)
Gene Upshaw (HOF)
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Further evidence of three things;
One, that Al had it at one time. Two, that he lost it the last ten years.
Three, that folks in here are not above comparing apples and oranges to try and prove their point.
March 13th, 2013 at 5:20 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 4:33 am
Percy was sleepy too!
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/13/migraines-no-longer-a-concern-for-percy-harvin/
take notes JaMarcus
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I hope Reggie took notes. That’s how you handle your young cornerstone players. Not leaking information to the press and scapegoating them out of the building. Poor JaMarcus.
March 13th, 2013 at 5:31 am
To me it seems like Reggie seriously thinks he’s not rebuilding, but ‘reloading’
March 13th, 2013 at 5:41 am
Good morning Nation.
This feels like a bad hangover waking up from a very bad dream. Tylenol anyone?
March 13th, 2013 at 5:42 am
Dark Days in the Black Hole. No relief in sight. Not all RM fault, but he should have cleaned house last year.
March 13th, 2013 at 5:44 am
Reggie said he was letting all 17 UFA’s free to find their own deal and he was true to his word. He had cap space available to at least secure Dez Bryant and Phillip Wheeler but let them walk away. What’s the reasoning behind cutting Huff I wonder? Only saved a little over a million in cap. Head scratcher.
March 13th, 2013 at 5:45 am
Dark Days in the Black Hole. No relief in sight. Not all RM fault, but he should have cleaned house last year.
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I pin 100% of the blame on MD. This is not your father’s Raiders anymore.
March 13th, 2013 at 5:48 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
I guess its gonna be another year of moaning and groaning and FN JaMarcus! But, let’s be patient and see what happens!
March 13th, 2013 at 5:50 am
http://overthecap.com/raiders-continue-purge-of-out-of-whack-contracts/
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a good consise update on the “outta wack” contracts.
March 13th, 2013 at 5:55 am
Im gonna wait to see how this plays out… Not much else to do …
Weve been in a decade long tailspin and this was gonna happen sooner or later…
Could turnout good… A couple years of growing pains and the Raiders will be fine…
The Raiders beed a clean slate and i believe thats what were seeing …no need for dramatic statements …. Lets see where this goes
March 13th, 2013 at 5:58 am
935…agree….
March 13th, 2013 at 6:00 am
Dead Money
Name Cap Number
Richard Seymour $13,714,000
Michael Huff $9,497,500
Darrius Heyward Bey $5,260,000
Aaron Curry $1,508,000
Kevin Boss $1,500,000
Dave Tollefson $625,000
DeMarcus Van Dyke $295,688
Joe Barksdale $269,900
Chimdi Chekwa $222,600
Nathan Stupar $37,764
TOTAL $32,930,452
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If we cut add this to the dead money total:
Carson Palmer $9,340,000
Tommy Kelly $6,324,270
Rolando McClain $10,895,000
which subtotals out to: $26,559,270
The dead money could be potentially: $59,489,722
or 48% of the cap.
March 13th, 2013 at 6:03 am
and to be fair, we would get another $12 mill+ in cap relief moving our number under the cap to a cool $28 million.
March 13th, 2013 at 6:05 am
Makes me chuckle to hear rumors of Kevin Boss returning as a potential Brandon Myers replacement, and he’s counted on this years cap as $1.5 mill of dead money.
March 13th, 2013 at 6:09 am
I heard the rumors of Boss coming back…no! Especially after what he said last year of being on the right side of the rivalry (with KC). So yeah, no to Boss!
March 13th, 2013 at 6:16 am
I bet we win more than 4 games with new roster and Pryor! Any takers?
March 13th, 2013 at 6:19 am
The reason behind cutting Huff was he sucks, he was a turnstyle at times last year, and for the money we were paying him he just wasn’t worth it.
I’m glad he’s gone.
March 13th, 2013 at 6:20 am
Raiderlization Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 6:16 am
I bet we win more than 4 games with new roster and Pryor! Any takers?
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yep…..thanks for handicapping me a couple games
March 13th, 2013 at 6:21 am
It’s a very low day for Raider Nation when the over/under for a successful season is 4 wins.
March 13th, 2013 at 6:22 am
your not going to get that many new pieces to fit together and suceced when your going up against teams that are solid and have been running the same systems for years
March 13th, 2013 at 6:24 am
The reason behind cutting Huff was he sucks, he was a turnstyle at times last year, and for the money we were paying him he just wasn’t worth it.
I’m glad he’s gone.
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Why then if he sucks did Reggie restructure his contract last year to make him even more difficult to cut? Really Huff’s not the elite CB or safety he was drafted and paid to be but he didn’t suck either. I think he can be replaced, but the salary dump for the wee bit of cap savings makes no sense to me.
March 13th, 2013 at 6:25 am
Add Huff’s restructure to the list of blunders that Reggie has made. That’s on him.
Reggie could have ripped the bandaid off last year. Why do this now?
March 13th, 2013 at 6:25 am
Schefter believes that the Raiders will have the #1 pick next year! Probably should have done this last year…maybe, maybe not! But like I keep telling haters…when we come back, I’m looking for you all!!!
March 13th, 2013 at 6:26 am
Say what you will about Huff, and I by no means was a Huffy lover, but he at least competed last year when half the team laid down.
To save 1.8 million in cap space is nothing. You can do that at any time.
That was a business decision, and not even one of those quasi football-business related decisions.
Shoring up the books, and not the football books but the shareholders books.
March 13th, 2013 at 6:27 am
Gotta give Huff some credit. He made the change to CB last year! Wasn’t the best, but that is a hard change to do! Will he go to Texas and DHB in Baltimore? We’ll shall see now!
March 13th, 2013 at 6:28 am
But, in any way…I wish them luck!
March 13th, 2013 at 6:28 am
Shoring up the books, and not the football books but the shareholders books.
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aren’t we talking about Mark Davis here?
March 13th, 2013 at 6:29 am
Guest123 Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 6:25 am
Add Huff’s restructure to the list of blunders that Reggie has made. That’s on him.
Reggie could have ripped the bandaid off last year. Why do this now?
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cause he dont know what hes doin…..he flyin by the seat of his pants……….its obvious now he didnt have any plan last year….hired a bad coaching staff, changed the O just to change it back again………reggie IS NOT a quality GM……..and this is going to be a 5 year rebuilding process only to find out it didnt work before we get the right group in here
March 13th, 2013 at 6:29 am
. I think he can be replaced, but the salary dump for the wee bit of cap savings makes no sense to me.
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ACTUAL DOLLARS!!!
Not sure why so many of you are missing on this, we only saved 1.8 in cap space, but somewhere between 7 and 11 million (different sets of info out there) in REAL DOLLARS.
March 13th, 2013 at 6:31 am
aren’t we talking about Mark Davis here?
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There is plenty of other people and groups with ownership stakes in the team.
The Davis family didn’t even own half the team by the time he passed.
March 13th, 2013 at 6:32 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 4:31 am
I don’t think we’ll have less than 4 wins next year, even if the gutting continues and we see Palmer, DMAC, Kelly & McClain ousted (hopefully traded)
I’m ready for a young & hungry team full of piss & vinegar. no more scholarships. no more starting players who don’t practice or show up during the offseason
Reggie may not be very active the first 3 days of free agency, which is fine. He will find bargains and we will still compete in every ballgame.
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Just TARP baby!
Just curious… why didn’t Reggie do this LAST year?
Any idea’s whatsoever?
March 13th, 2013 at 6:32 am
Ok, I understand there are “actual dollars” at stake. But isn’t there also a minimum salary cap that Mark has to adhere to. He can’t just pocket the savings. He’s got to spend his found money somewhere. The cap number available to spend is $16 million and growing!
March 13th, 2013 at 6:33 am
Reggie played Mark for a fool.
2012, came in promising there’s no rebuild needed, get us over the .500 hump. But really hiring Allen and Knapp to expose the roster. So as to…
In 2013, show Mark it really is time for a rebuild, to let Reggie have his way with the roster.
Why Mark is on-board with that with the decision to tarp the stadium (mark acknowledging reggie’s rebuilding and we’re gonna stay ugly another three years)
March 13th, 2013 at 6:34 am
There is plenty of other people and groups with ownership stakes in the team.
The Davis family didn’t even own half the team by the time he passed.
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Even Al controlled less than 50% of the team while he was alive, and that didn’t stop him from making football moves as the managing partner. Mark Davis suddenly ascending his will to the corporate partner?
March 13th, 2013 at 6:35 am
Just curious… why didn’t Reggie do this LAST year?
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and we fired knapp even though we still have to pay him because hes under contract and brought in olsen cause he fits better with dmac who im assuming will be gone in the next month or so…………why not leave knapp in place for the destruction rather than double pay your coaches
March 13th, 2013 at 6:35 am
But isn’t there also a minimum salary cap that Mark has to adhere to.
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Salary cap again. Not the same as real money.
This is a perfect opportunity to use the dead money (money already spent) for a good chunk of the cap, spend loose change around the rest of the team, and load up the coffers with the REAL DOLLARS saved.
March 13th, 2013 at 6:36 am
Mark is so cheap that I have no doubt that Reggie and Dennis will be here for at least two more years. He won’t be paying them after he’s fired them. He’ll want to milk their gtd contracts for every day they are on the rolls.
March 13th, 2013 at 6:37 am
Mark Davis suddenly ascending his will to the corporate partner?
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Maybe said partners aren’t as interested in seeing if Mark can make it work, like they were with Al.
53% owned by outside interest. They might be the ones calling the shots right now, tellin Junior your dad’s way of doing things are done.
March 13th, 2013 at 6:37 am
Hayward Bay and Huff could come back for the league minimum IF nobody makes them an offer/
We will get some defensive impact players in the draft
Cleaning up Al Davis is messed were about done now
we will get the kind of players the Raiders need to play their defense
we should have a much better defense this year
March 13th, 2013 at 6:37 am
Never got my question answered.
1. Given what we now have seen (and will be in 13) WHY is Palmer and Kelly still on this ‘team’?
Obviously we will be AWFUL so winning in 13 is not an issue nor is dead money a concern for MD and RM….
The ONLY thing that remotely makes sense is that they plan to TRADE palmer (and McStupid) even if it is for a tuna caserole. That answer however does NOT jive for Kelly…
Thoughts?
March 13th, 2013 at 6:38 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 6:29 am
. I think he can be replaced, but the salary dump for the wee bit of cap savings makes no sense to me.
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ACTUAL DOLLARS!!!
Not sure why so many of you are missing on this, we only saved 1.8 in cap space, but somewhere between 7 and 11 million (different sets of info out there) in REAL DOLLARS.
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So he had more money last year when he paid Seymour, Brisiel, Huff, Palmer, and Branch? But not this year when he kept two of them?
Like I said last night, I can drink the Koolade, but not when there is a turd floating in it.
None of this makes one iota of sense. Its like Reggie finally just decided to say f..k it… maybe that’s why it seems crystal clear to you!
March 13th, 2013 at 6:39 am
Salary cap again. Not the same as real money.
This is a perfect opportunity to use the dead money (money already spent) for a good chunk of the cap, spend loose change around the rest of the team, and load up the coffers with the REAL DOLLARS saved.
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Yes, but it is a fact we are going to be somewhere between $16M to $28M under the cap WITH THE DEAD MONEY ACCOUNTED FOR already. What’s cheap Mark Davis’s plan for spending that $$$?
March 13th, 2013 at 6:39 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 6:31 am
aren’t we talking about Mark Davis here?
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There is plenty of other people and groups with ownership stakes in the team.
The Davis family didn’t even own half the team by the time he passed.
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davis owned like 67% at his death…..he always owned at least 51%…….about 5 years ago or so he bought out a partner to raise it to 67 and thats when the raiders were cash strapped
March 13th, 2013 at 6:41 am
from PFF
“Two of yesterday’s releases could make an impact in free agency”
On the Market: Huff and Heyward-Bey
Steve Palazzolo | 2013/03/13
Day One of free agency was littered with nearly as many big name releases as there were signings, so teams have even more work to do when evaluating the free agent class. Two intriguing releases came out of Oakland where the Raiders parted ways with former first-round picks wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey and safety Michael Huff. While Huff had a solid career in Oakland, Heyward-Bey was thought to be a major reach in the draft and certainly didn’t live up to the Raiders’ expectations as the No. 7 pick in 2009. Both releases were based mostly on salary considerations, so with the financial baggage removed, Heyward-Bey and Huff are players who could become value signings as free agency unfolds.
Heyward-Bey Developing
Let’s forget about his draft status and the huge rookie contract for a minute and take a look at Heyward-Bey’s resume as a receiver. He’s never really developed into the elite deep threat his 4.3 speed would suggest, but he’s shown an ability to work the intermediate level and perhaps a more favorable quarterback can help him take his deep game to the next level.
One of the big knocks on Heyward-Bey has been his questionable hands, and while he certainly had major issues early in his career, he’s made great strides in this area, including performing better than league average in 2011. Here’s a look at his career numbers:
TA Rec. % Ct Yds Yds / Rec. YAC YAC / Rec. LG TD In DP MT Fu Drop Rate
2009 38 9 23.7 124 13.8 14 1.6 24 1 3 5 0 0 35.7%
2010 60 26 43.3 366 14.1 106 4.1 69 1 1 7 3 0 21.2%
2011 106 64 60.4 975 15.2 301 4.7 58 4 4 6 9 1 8.6%
2012 77 41 53.2 606 14.8 237 5.8 59 5 2 6 10 0 12.8%
Heyward-Bey’s hands have improved greatly since 2010 and he’s showing better ability after the catch, including a career-high 10 forced missed tackles in 2012.
Again, he’s always had to live with the high expectations of being the seventh pick in the draft as well as the high price tag that comes with Top-10 pick status. His $8.2 million cap hit last season made him one of the league’s most overvalued players, but with a fresh start on the horizon, Heyward-Bey has a chance to escape the pressure of being a game-breaking wide receiver and continue his development into a dependable secondary option in a well-rounded passing attack.
Huff’s Versatility
We see many safeties double as slot corners in sub packages but it’s very rare that a safety can make the move to a traditional cornerback role and have success. That’s exactly what Huff did in Week 3 when injuries forced the move to left cornerback. The Pittsburgh Steelers attacked him often (completing eight of the 11 balls thrown his way), but they were mostly of the short variety and Huff’s -3.1 grade in that game stemmed mostly from his three missed tackles.
After the tough first game, Huff continued to show improvement and seemed to make the position switch official when he picked up three passes defensed and an interception (and a +2.3 coverage grade) against the Atlanta Falcons’ wide receiver duo of Roddy White and Julio Jones in Week 6. Huff finished the season at cornerback and graded at +2.1 at his new home. It was an impressive performance as he performed admirably at a position where most safeties would be exploited.
When you add it all up, opponents completed only 53 percent of passes into Huff’s coverage and he finished with nine passes defensed and two interceptions. All of this came two years removed from Huff grading at +17.2 as our No. 2 safety in the league, and one year removed from his strong play when filling in as the team’s slot cornerback. He’s essentially succeeded in three different positions over a three-year period.
Any team looking to sign Huff will likely put him back at his more natural spot at safety, but his experience playing in the slot and on the outside will prove invaluable. In a league that covets versatility, Oakland’s releasing Huff may have vaulted him to the top of the free agent safety rankings.
March 13th, 2013 at 6:42 am
Hayward Bay and Huff could come back for the league minimum IF nobody makes them an offer/
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fat chance. they will get a decent offer somewhere. Huff would be a nice addition to Dallas, and DHB could go home to Baltimore and replace Boldin.
March 13th, 2013 at 6:42 am
POST-959,NOT SURE ABOUT THAT..
March 13th, 2013 at 6:45 am
Watch Huff and Heyward-Bey have solid careers now…
Well…
March 13th, 2013 at 6:45 am
davis owned like 67% at his death…..he always owned at least 51%…….about 5 years ago or so he bought out a partner to raise it to 67 and thats when the raiders were cash strapped
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this is factually incorrect. I can bother do research this but I’ll tell you AD owned 47 percent at the time of his death. Mark owns the same 47 percent today, but he needs to keep at least 16 percent on retainer to pay for his mother’s inheritance tax bill when she passes. The minimum stake for majority stakeholder franchise owner is 30%. Mark will barely hang on to that when his mom eventually passes.
March 13th, 2013 at 6:45 am
Dirt-Lot! Hey bro, did you renew your tix?
March 13th, 2013 at 6:46 am
Watch Huff and Heyward-Bey have solid careers now…
Well…
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and I wish them both the best.
March 13th, 2013 at 6:47 am
Huff will do fine
Bey COULD have been a star here had we used him correctly. slot receiver short passes screens (EXCLUSIVELY)…once he got teh ball he was the YAC king…of course we had no idea how to exploit this streght
Huff was in an IMPOSSIBLE al davis single safety set up for years
expect him to thrive on a real team with a real defense….
Summary: Raiders and their ‘ways’ suck
March 13th, 2013 at 6:48 am
967.tuckrulefool Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 6:37 am
Never got my question answered.
1. Given what we now have seen (and will be in 13) WHY is Palmer and Kelly still on this ‘team’?
Obviously we will be AWFUL so winning in 13 is not an issue nor is dead money a concern for MD and RM….
The ONLY thing that remotely makes sense is that they plan to TRADE palmer (and McStupid) even if it is for a tuna caserole. That answer however does NOT jive for Kelly…
Thoughts?
I was wondering about this yesterday…I guess maybe that June 1st thingy is why McStupid and Kelly are still on the team? Heard rumors about AZ wanting Palmer and they are putting together some draft pics, and/or players for him, but not sure the truth behind that. But…I guess we shalls see!
Kelly acts as his own agent, but is he an UFA?
March 13th, 2013 at 6:49 am
I’m thinking Pryor to be released now, as another sign of Reggie ‘purging’ roster of Al picks.
Chekwa, Pryor, Ausberry, Jones, trading Reece, McFadden, Veldheer, Wisniewski, etc just so he can draft his guys.
{cynical me, but wouldn’t be surprised}
March 13th, 2013 at 6:49 am
This is a perfect opportunity to use the dead money (money already spent) for a good chunk of the cap, spend loose change around the rest of the team, and load up the coffers with the REAL DOLLARS saved.
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No. The perfect opportunity was LAST YEAR.. when he could have jettisoned the entire team and most of us would have been pissed, but said ok. we’d be over it be now.
Why NOW? And why half assed? Why did Briesiel and Branch get more money? But not Huff? Or Wheeler? I can MAYBE understand Branch because he was a coveted player… and Reggie is kinda cheap…
Its all seems so random, and unplanned. No vision. No clarity of purpose. The players left have to be going… get me the hell out of here!!
March 13th, 2013 at 6:49 am
YES I DID..GOOD MORNING..
March 13th, 2013 at 6:50 am
Correction: I can MAYBE understand Bryant because he was a coveted player… and Reggie is kinda cheap…
March 13th, 2013 at 6:51 am
We are back to being a destination of final resort for free agents, and only ones looking to cash a paycheck. No one in their right mind looks at Oakland and wants to be part of a long rebuild. F that!
March 13th, 2013 at 6:51 am
982.DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 6:49 am
YES I DID..GOOD MORNING..
Gonna renew this weekend! Waiting to see how it goes. If it looks like we’re gonna be gawd-awful, I may sell off half of it but keep the seats! Like I said, we’ll see…but we will definitley be there for tailgating!
March 13th, 2013 at 6:52 am
984.guest123 Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 6:51 am
We are back to being a destination of final resort for free agents, and only ones looking to cash a paycheck. No one in their right mind looks at Oakland and wants to be part of a long rebuild. F that!
In today’s day and age, I can agree with this.
March 13th, 2013 at 6:53 am
Roger Goodell to step in and remove Mark and Reggie for deliberately gutting a team, damaging the profile/profitability of an NFL franchise. Force a sell to an LA owner.
{cynical me}
March 13th, 2013 at 6:53 am
Reggie’s FA pitch: Look what we did for Phillip Wheeler! Come and take a dirt cheap one year deal and you too may be able to hit paydirt!
March 13th, 2013 at 6:55 am
I’m so stoked. Finally the players we have been drafting and signing may get an opportunity to start in their proper positions. We have 31 players as of now. That leaves 22 through draft. Free agency. And undrafted players to fill the gaps. That’s a lot of new faces and let the cream rise to the top. Then we build around those players. It’s about time. I also look for McClain cut June 1st. Dmac trade for picks. And a Houston contract
March 13th, 2013 at 6:55 am
Any team looking to sign Huff will likely put him back at his more natural spot at safety, but his experience playing in the slot and on the outside will prove invaluable. In a league that covets versatility, Oakland’s releasing Huff may have vaulted him to the top of the free agent safety rankings.
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Ok, I didn’t need to read this in the morning.
Someone point Reggie to PFF please… maybe take his finger to the mouse and show him how to click it for him.
March 13th, 2013 at 6:57 am
HWNRDR,GONNA BE ANOTHER LONG YEAR.PARKING LOT ACCESS WILL CONTINUE 2 B A BREEZE AFTER THE 1ST GAME THO..(GOT TO FIND THE POSITIVES)
March 13th, 2013 at 6:57 am
We’re in for a world of hurt thru the next few months. I’ve got a bad feeling. More wasteful, head-scratching moves.
March 13th, 2013 at 6:57 am
uggh. 11 years and counting (and counting…and counting)
March 13th, 2013 at 6:58 am
2013 Motto: Commitment to Clowney
March 13th, 2013 at 7:00 am
991.DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 6:57 am
HWNRDR,GONNA BE ANOTHER LONG YEAR.PARKING LOT ACCESS WILL CONTINUE 2 B A BREEZE AFTER THE 1ST GAME THO..(GOT TO FIND THE POSITIVES)
Hey, I’ll take that! Because we all know how friggen frustrating it is tryna get in!!!
March 13th, 2013 at 7:01 am
Al Davis would never have made these moves. Maybe he was guilty of kicking the can down the road on some overpriced guys and maybe a little overzealous to do things his way and make a big spash in free agency.
But he never would have let his beloved team freefall on day one of free agency without some sort of counter-strike.
This is horrible management all around going back to Reggie’s first day on the job. Waayyy too much dead money on the books and no plan to retain key holdover free agents.
I miss Mr Davis. RIP
March 13th, 2013 at 7:01 am
2013 Motto: Commitment to Clowney
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‘Clowning for Clowney’
March 13th, 2013 at 7:02 am
irjonny Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 6:55 am
I’m so stoked. Finally the players we have been drafting and signing may get an opportunity to start in their proper positions. We have 31 players as of now. That leaves 22 through draft. Free agency. And undrafted players to fill the gaps. That’s a lot of new faces and let the cream rise to the top. Then we build around those players. It’s about time. I also look for McClain cut June 1st. Dmac trade for picks. And a Houston contract
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I appreciate your optimism, but when has Reggie tried to keep any player? Why would he try to keep Houston? He likes to hand out one year contracts so if they prove their worth they can get a big contract with a different team. Thats why even the Adams contract makes it seem clear Reggie has no idea what he is doing. So if Adams turns into a great CB (like his PFF metric suggests) he isn’t under contract next year. What did THAT accomplish? We have plenty of money under the cap next season.
There is no clarity of purpose here… scatter-shot leadership.
March 13th, 2013 at 7:02 am
Reggie gives off an air of uneasiness. 2012 was a very bad year for him. People still excuse him, think he’s turning things around. At worst, think he’s made a ton of mistakes, but that he’s TRYING, and don’t yet have that feeling of distrusting him like i do. Well, that feeling of distrust is growing, tho i tell myself “no”.
March 13th, 2013 at 7:03 am
GG Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 6:53 am
Roger Goodell to step in and remove Mark and Reggie for deliberately gutting a team, damaging the profile/profitability of an NFL franchise. Force a sell to an LA owner.
{cynical me}
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That’s pretty sad that a thought like that can actually be considered to have validity. It looks almost that bad.
I don’t know what it says about Reggie, but almost every analyst that has chimed in says we will be far and away the worst team in the league…perhaps historically bad, or “unfathomably bad” as one put it.
So THIS …is what Reggie has brought us in just over a year?
I’ll be looking for reasons to be optimistic but yet another wasted yr. is not what I expected in Reggies 2nd yr.
March 13th, 2013 at 7:04 am
SO ITS CLEAN HOUSE AS IS PRESENTLY HAPPENING,OR BUISNESS AS USUAL,LAST 11 YEARS..MAKE A CHOICE..
March 13th, 2013 at 7:05 am
Even Reggie’s “success” are failures. Bringing in Phillip Wheeler on a one year deal and letting him go is like the whole thing is just a rumor. It never happened. Vanished like a dry fart. But he did lock up Bresiel long term! Ouch!
March 13th, 2013 at 7:05 am
#1000…
Meanwhile, we get all that BS lip-service during combine/senior bowl about DA impresses and RM is the smartest GM in the NFL.
There’s a sell going on.
March 13th, 2013 at 7:07 am
guest123 Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 7:01 am
2013 Motto: Commitment to Clowney
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‘Clowning for Clowney’
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How did that work out for Detroit when they got Suh?
I agree with the poster above about Al. At least there was a clarity of purpose with him… he was always swinging for the fences.
Now it all seems so random and scattershot? I will shut up now… its only a game.
March 13th, 2013 at 7:08 am
“Cleaning house” does not necessarily precipitate making a break with “business as usual”
Look at a bunch of joke franchise who have done likewise. The Buffalo’s, Clevelands, Jacksonvilles…
March 13th, 2013 at 7:10 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 7:04 am
SO ITS CLEAN HOUSE AS IS PRESENTLY HAPPENING,OR BUISNESS AS USUAL,LAST 11 YEARS..MAKE A CHOICE..
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BUT WHY NOT LAST YEAR????
Why Seymour??? Why Branch??? Why Brisiel??? Why Palmer??? Why McFadden??? Why Huff???? Why Wheeler???
I feel like I was being teased.
March 13th, 2013 at 7:12 am
I guess the whiners have a good 2 or 3 day window to get their royal complain on, lol.
Right up until we sign a DT and LB to replace Wheeler and Bryant for 1/4 of the price.
March 13th, 2013 at 7:14 am
Good teams know who they are. They have an identity. Our GM trashed a successful offensive system built around tailor made hand picked offensive linemen and speed WR’s and power RB’s and converted it to a dogcrap system that was scattershot.
Blame the general for not knowing what he is or how to command. We have no identity. That’s on the top guy.
March 13th, 2013 at 7:14 am
guest123 Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 7:08 am
“Cleaning house” does not necessarily precipitate making a break with “business as usual”
Look at a bunch of joke franchise who have done likewise. The Buffalo’s, Clevelands, Jacksonvilles…
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The worst thing is the only way these franchises can get any FA’s is by over paying them, which Reggie is making clear he refuses to do. Add to that his head scratching reliance on ONE YEAR CONTRACTS so even when he does hit on someone they are gone the next season.
March 13th, 2013 at 7:15 am
Right up until we sign a DT and LB to replace Wheeler and Bryant for 1/4 of the price.
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you get what you pay for!
March 13th, 2013 at 7:15 am
J Hill Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 7:12 am
I guess the whiners have a good 2 or 3 day window to get their royal complain on, lol.
Right up until we sign a DT and LB to replace Wheeler and Bryant for 1/4 of the price.
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One year contracts!
Yippeee!!!
March 13th, 2013 at 7:17 am
Why wasn’t Bresiel a one year contract?
March 13th, 2013 at 7:18 am
So at this Bilitnikoff award night, Reggie and DA are profusely thanking the Raider Nation for their support and saying we’re the best fans in the world etc. etc. and then all over the media we’re exposed to hearing that me may have the worst team in sports in 2013 and it’s difficult to make a case we aren’t.
I’d think for the fan’s sake that some kind of press conference or “State of the Raiders” address is in order if for nothing else than to encourage season ticket holders that they are at least “trying” to field a competitive team….even if they aren’t.
March 13th, 2013 at 7:18 am
guest123 Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 7:05 am
Even Reggie’s “success” are failures. Bringing in Phillip Wheeler on a one year deal and letting him go is like the whole thing is just a rumor. It never happened. Vanished like a dry fart. But he did lock up Bresiel long term! Ouch!
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Remember a long time ago, Reggie said he’s looking for players who “WANT” to be Raiders. If he outbid, Miami and Wheeler took the deal, he may have ended up another check casher. We don’t want those guys man. If the guys want to leave, then LET them. If a player wants to be a RAIDER, he WILL take a pay cut, or a lesser deal. He’ll do whatever he has to do to stay with the Club.
March 13th, 2013 at 7:19 am
I hate to say this and hope never to say it again but. The Raiders are about to be run like all the great so far organizations. The steelers ! God I hate to say it but they kept on winning and being in the mix every year unlike US! That pissed me off when friends that are steeler fans or PATSIE fans. I mean damm how did we let these organizations pass the OAKLAND RAIDERS! Let this all happen and let reggie run this team the right way and draft and sign once in a great while and stay in the mix every year once we get our franchise QB like other teams PITT.NE.GB.B_more.
March 13th, 2013 at 7:20 am
I’d think for the fan’s sake that some kind of press conference or “State of the Raiders” address is in order if for nothing else than to encourage season ticket holders that they are at least “trying” to field a competitive team….even if they aren’t.
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It’d be a waste of time and effort. They aren’t going to even disguise their motives anymore. The terms “rebuilding” and “5 year plan” will start to surface in their pressers soon.
March 13th, 2013 at 7:23 am
This franchise might go about 15 years without a playoff game.
Can you fkn believe it?
Already been 11 years right? Easily another 4 years for the rebuild.
March 13th, 2013 at 7:24 am
guest123 Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 5:44 am
Reggie said he was letting all 17 UFA’s free to find their own deal and he was true to his word. He had cap space available to at least secure Dez Bryant and Phillip Wheeler but let them walk away. What’s the reasoning behind cutting Huff I wonder? Only saved a little over a million in cap. Head scratcher.
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The Huff thing really concerns me as to what are the intentions here. From a cap standpoint it makes little sense. On the surface the guy is worth 1.8 million in savings they got from releasing him. My concern is they saved a lot of “real money” If Mark is trying to conserve real money – we have a real problem because that will mean no big FA signings and trading down for nothing to get out of paying #3 money and the future cutting of Palmer, Kelly, and DMac withut bringing people in.
The other option which is entriely possible is the def coaches did not see Huff as someone they wanted to build with (like they did with Branch) and wanted to open up the position and move on. While not saving much in cap this year it sets them up better for later years.
March 13th, 2013 at 7:24 am
ghost79,
I like your passion for the notion that a player would be honor-bound to stay a Raider for life. But in this day and age of short NFL careers, a guy has to go where the money is. There’s no guarantee that a guy could get hurt and be retired prematurely. I don’t blame anyone for following the money. It’s not anything personal or an insult to the nation.
March 13th, 2013 at 7:26 am
Dakota Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 7:23 am
This franchise might go about 15 years without a playoff game.
Can you fkn believe it?
Already been 11 years right? Easily another 4 years for the rebuild.
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Here in Tampa, they keep saying over and over again.
“It’s been 5 years since we last tasted the playoffs!” that’s way too long! Everyone thinks that is rididculous. And they had a 10 win season 3 years ago!
March 13th, 2013 at 7:27 am
Huff concerns you? The dude has been here for what, 6 years, and he makes no plays on the ball, he still takes bad angles of pursuit, he still can’t cover to save his life.
Huff was part of the problem.
Good riddance!
March 13th, 2013 at 7:27 am
sh!t it wasnt a nightmare….
March 13th, 2013 at 7:27 am
Thank you Ghost! As much as it hurts me watching the fall of my once GREAT Oakland Raiders…I will wait! When we come back on top again, I will look at the youngsters that never witnessed any form of championship and say, this one is for you guys! Now carry on!
March 13th, 2013 at 7:27 am
guest123 Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 7:17 am
Why wasn’t Bresiel a one year contract?
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His worth on FA market last year dictated a multi year deal just like Wheeler did this year. Wheeler last year was a cut player from a terrible colts def and could not find anything better than vet minimum.
March 13th, 2013 at 7:29 am
Gdog Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 7:14 am
guest123 Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 7:08 am
“Cleaning house” does not necessarily precipitate making a break with “business as usual”
Look at a bunch of joke franchise who have done likewise. The Buffalo’s, Clevelands, Jacksonvilles…
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The worst thing is the only way these franchises can get any FA’s is by over paying them, which Reggie is making clear he refuses to do. Add to that his head scratching reliance on ONE YEAR CONTRACTS so even when he does hit on someone they are gone the next season.
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I haven’t thought about it, but yeah the one year contracts are a joke. Whats the point. If a guy ends up being good, we won’t retain him because we won’t pay up.
Reggie is running this team like a low budget MLB team.
March 13th, 2013 at 7:30 am
Dakota Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 7:27 am
Huff concerns you? The dude has been here for what, 6 years, and he makes no plays on the ball, he still takes bad angles of pursuit, he still can’t cover to save his life.
Huff was part of the problem.
Good riddance!
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Dakota
The move concerns me because there was little to no cap savings in it. It was not a true cap move. It could be that we are trying to save real money. I also said the other plausible option is the Def coaches feel like you do.
March 13th, 2013 at 7:30 am
And I hate to say it, but free agency killed football about 30 years ago! or any sport for that matter! Loyalty? Right…only to Ben Franklin!
March 13th, 2013 at 7:30 am
These writes who say cutting Huff was a head scratcher have obviously never watched Huff play.
I would have like to have kept DHB, and if he waas willing to restructure, then I would want him on the roster, but if he said no, then that was also a no brainer cut.
The problem I have with what is going on is that we have cap space and nothing is being done to improve the team……that might change today. At least I hope so.
There are still quality players out there.
March 13th, 2013 at 7:31 am
I haven’t thought about it, but yeah the one year contracts are a joke. Whats the point. If a guy ends up being good, we won’t retain him because we won’t pay up.
Reggie is running this team like a low budget MLB team.
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Maybe Reggie has enough confidence in his scouting abilities and understanding of how guys fit that he can find another Wheeler?
March 13th, 2013 at 7:31 am
My concern is they saved a lot of “real money” If Mark is trying to conserve real money – we have a real problem because that will mean no big FA signings and trading down for nothing to get out of paying #3 money and the future cutting of Palmer, Kelly, and DMac withut bringing people in.
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I’m concerned too. If ‘real money’ is such a concern for Mark, there’s no way he’s firing Reggie or DA after this season regardless if we go 0-16. ‘Real money’ rules the day.
March 13th, 2013 at 7:32 am
1960AutumnWind,
Gotchya.
March 13th, 2013 at 7:33 am
RaiderDebo Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 5:20 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 4:33 am
Percy was sleepy too!
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/13/migraines-no-longer-a-concern-for-percy-harvin/
take notes JaMarcus
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I hope Reggie took notes. That’s how you handle your young cornerstone players. Not leaking information to the press and scapegoating them out of the building. Poor JaMarcus.
What the phug r u talkin about! So ur tellin me that jafatdisgutingpig was not the problem! Dude get off the crack that fat pig made that situation for him self. Stop feelin sorry for that loser he made his own decisions he ain’t no baby!
March 13th, 2013 at 7:33 am
The problem I have with what is going on is that we have cap space and nothing is being done to improve the team……that might change today. At least I hope so.
There are still quality players out there.
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Dakota
Yes that is my concern that they may want to save real money instead of cap money. I doubt we do anything for a week or so to let the market calm down but if we just bring in a bunch of vet minimums everywhere I think we have a problem.
March 13th, 2013 at 7:34 am
The problem I have with what is going on is that we have cap space and nothing is being done to improve the team……that might change today. At least I hope so.
There are still quality players out there.
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Yep, but they are signing at a furious pace. Then the music will stop and there will be no chair left for Reggie to park his $16 mill.
March 13th, 2013 at 7:35 am
My fav GM is Ozzie in B more and notice how they do it and look at the players and moves recent. Raiderfans been a long time trust me
March 13th, 2013 at 7:37 am
Baltimore is gonna be interesting to watch this year! Maybe it was good for them that they won it all this past year! Ray Lewis retires, Ellersby, and Krueger gets deals elsewhere! Ngata injured again, Boldin traded…we’ll see!
March 13th, 2013 at 7:38 am
The move concerns me because there was little to no cap savings in it. It was not a true cap move. It could be that we are trying to save real money. I also said the other plausible option is the Def coaches feel like you do.
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Sometimes I’m not sure if you guys ever really watched Huff on the field. The guy is an unmitigated disaster. An absolute dumpster fire.
He should donate 95% of his savings to the Estate of Al Davis.
He was just terrible. As a safety, you have to, you know, tackle somebody sometimes and intercept the ball sometimes. And as a CB? Got smoked as soon as OCs realized they should be throwing at him.
I don’t think Huff being cut was a money move at all. At least I hope not. That pink slip was LONG overdue.
March 13th, 2013 at 7:39 am
the point is the ravens since ozzie? that could be us. we shouldnt act the way we do on here with reggie
March 13th, 2013 at 7:39 am
1960AutumnWind Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 7:24 am
guest123 Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 5:44 am
Reggie said he was letting all 17 UFA’s free to find their own deal and he was true to his word. He had cap space available to at least secure Dez Bryant and Phillip Wheeler but let them walk away. What’s the reasoning behind cutting Huff I wonder? Only saved a little over a million in cap. Head scratcher.
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The Huff thing really concerns me as to what are the intentions here. From a cap standpoint it makes little sense. On the surface the guy is worth 1.8 million in savings they got from releasing him. My concern is they saved a lot of “real money” If Mark is trying to conserve real money – we have a real problem because that will mean no big FA signings and trading down for nothing to get out of paying #3 money and the future cutting of Palmer, Kelly, and DMac withut bringing people in.
The other option which is entriely possible is the def coaches did not see Huff as someone they wanted to build with (like they did with Branch) and wanted to open up the position and move on. While not saving much in cap this year it sets them up better for later years.
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Yeah, the fact that we are worried about actual dollars really bothers me. Tells me we don’t plan on winning. We cut our starting Safety (who I agree wasn’t that great) for $1.7M cap dollars, doesn’t make sense if you actually are trying to win.
This is going to be a long 7 year plan, just so Reggie does it HIS way. The f’ing ego on that guy.
March 13th, 2013 at 7:39 am
All those changes in B-More. Why did they bother to spend $120 mill on Flacco if they’re into another rebuilding cycle?
March 13th, 2013 at 7:39 am
I guess we won’t see anymore of Reggie’s wheeling and dealing til after breakfast.
That’ll be sometime early afternoon.
March 13th, 2013 at 7:41 am
1960AutumnWind Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 7:31 am
I haven’t thought about it, but yeah the one year contracts are a joke. Whats the point. If a guy ends up being good, we won’t retain him because we won’t pay up.
Reggie is running this team like a low budget MLB team.
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Maybe Reggie has enough confidence in his scouting abilities and understanding of how guys fit that he can find another Wheeler?
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The move was a bit strange, since Wheeler actually produced, and is the type of player Allen is looking for; good attitude, big hustle, etc. that was a good match with him and Burris – but the way Doug Martin ran through them, i dont think that matters much – maybe there’s something better in the draft.
March 13th, 2013 at 7:41 am
Guest123 Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 7:34 am
The problem I have with what is going on is that we have cap space and nothing is being done to improve the team……that might change today. At least I hope so.
There are still quality players out there.
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Yep, but they are signing at a furious pace. Then the music will stop and there will be no chair left for Reggie to park his $16 mill.
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He can pickup 16 players for $16M. It will be like a Minor league team.
March 13th, 2013 at 7:41 am
I think an UDFA would be better than Huff.
I think I would be better than Huff.
March 13th, 2013 at 7:43 am
LA To TheBay Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 7:41 am
I think an UDFA would be better than Huff.
I think I would be better than Huff.
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LOL ….. he wasn’t that bad, but are you planning to try out. We might need you.
March 13th, 2013 at 7:43 am
1038.Que Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 7:39 am
the point is the ravens since ozzie? that could be us. we shouldnt act the way we do on here with reggie
I agree! And who knows, had (goodness, keep forgetting his name) that receiver caught the ball last year, this may have been a back to back Championship year for them!
March 13th, 2013 at 7:43 am
Doesn’t the bottom tier of your roster NOT count against cap? bcz?
Reg could pick up some starters for a couple mil per and then 14 guys at minimum salaries that don’t count against cap.
If I’m wrong, feel free to drop knowledge.
March 13th, 2013 at 7:43 am
I understand the money thing, and players will gravitate towards better deals. But like Guest said earlier. We don’t even have an identity. If guys don’t want to be here anymore, that attitude is obvious and infectious; it turns into poison. We may end up with a team full of 2nd and 3rd year guys, a whole lot of drafted rookies, and rookie UDFA’s. To me, that’s the perfect opportunity to begin instilling an identity in the youngsters….
I gotta tell you, I loved it when we’d get a fresh crop of Marines just fresh out of Bootcamp…They were motivated, hard charging, full of piss and vinegar, and jumped to all orders. They hadn’t been corrupted yet. There were some “Salty Dawgs” that had horrible attitudes and it poisoned the young guys…..
I agree that it sucks that Wheeler and Bryant are gone. It sucks because they were some our better players -which is sad-.
Branch is a Soldier. “Put me in Coach, I’ll play CB, return kicks, or even play QB.” He doesn’t care, “Sure I’ll restructure”
That’s what I want, a team full of Soldiers and Boar Hunters. I want my Raiders’ identity back.
March 13th, 2013 at 7:43 am
Everybody just kool man Reggie have a plan and its gonna work
March 13th, 2013 at 7:44 am
LA To TheBay Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 7:41 am
I think an UDFA would be better than Huff.
I think I would be better than Huff.
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Kenny Phillips, Glover Quinn (Texans) and Patrick Chung are out there, in addition to Adrian Wilson (if you want to go the veteran route)
March 13th, 2013 at 7:44 am
LA To TheBay Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 7:41 am
I think an UDFA would be better than Huff.
I think I would be better than Huff.
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I have a feeling you’ll be are only option. But don’t get too excited it’ll only be a 1-year contract.
March 13th, 2013 at 7:44 am
LA To TheBay Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 7:38 am
The move concerns me because there was little to no cap savings in it. It was not a true cap move. It could be that we are trying to save real money. I also said the other plausible option is the Def coaches feel like you do.
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Sometimes I’m not sure if you guys ever really watched Huff on the field. The guy is an unmitigated disaster. An absolute dumpster fire.
He should donate 95% of his savings to the Estate of Al Davis.
He was just terrible. As a safety, you have to, you know, tackle somebody sometimes and intercept the ball sometimes. And as a CB? Got smoked as soon as OCs realized they should be throwing at him.
I don’t think Huff being cut was a money move at all. At least I hope not. That pink slip was LONG overdue.
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Like I said the idea that the Def coaches did not see him as someone we wanted to have is the other plausible option.
I said last night in a post he is good at covering TEs but takes bad angles does not tackle well and is out of position a lot.
However it is a little jarring to know they saved so little in cap room on a move and also jettisoned the #7 overall pic in 2006 at a time when he should be in his prime. Of course the 2006 regime picked him which was Shell B and B Walsh and the gang so what should I expect.
March 13th, 2013 at 7:44 am
And who knows, had (goodness, keep forgetting his name) that receiver caught the ball last year…
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Lee Evans
March 13th, 2013 at 7:46 am
LOL ….. he wasn’t that bad, but are you planning to try out. We might need you.
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Weekend warrior about 60 days and several cheeseburgers in the way of me being in game shape.
And yes, Huff was that bad. Huff flashed but could never be consistent or relied upon to make a crucial stop.
He had exactly 4 good plays in his entire Raider career.
March 13th, 2013 at 7:48 am
Theghostronin79 Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 7:43 am
That’s what I want, a team full of Soldiers and Boar Hunters. I want my Raiders’ identity back.
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that just it. They have no identity. Back in the Gannon days, it was the veterans; Romanowski, Woodson, Tory James, Trace Armstrong. But they never could return to that type of chemistry. It went wrong when they went with Moss, Ted Washington…they just couldnt keep the Chris Clemons type and would move on to failed high draft picks.
It all kind of washed away…never were able to get that nucleus of draft picks, and vets. They never traded down, so they over spent on vets AND overspent on overall 7th and above draft picks that NEVER returned a true investment, including Routt. They spent millions just to get to .500
March 13th, 2013 at 7:48 am
JFB, BREAKING NEWS!!!!!!
Steelers signed QB Bruce Gradkowski to a three-year contract!!!
March 13th, 2013 at 7:50 am
I haven’t thought about it, but yeah the one year contracts are a joke. Whats the point. If a guy ends up being good, we won’t retain him because we won’t pay up.
Reggie is running this team like a low budget MLB team.
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Exactly… I understand one year contracts for veteran players on their last leg. Its too risky to give them long contracts (Seymour.) But why in the world would any GM with any brains at all use one year contracts with young players or players in their prime??? What was the point of Adams contract? Or Wheelers last year?
If you have a tight budget you pay them the guaranteed money up front and then back load the contract in case you hit the jack pot.
GM 101.
March 13th, 2013 at 7:50 am
Glover Quinn please.
March 13th, 2013 at 7:50 am
I have a feeling you’ll be are only option. But don’t get too excited it’ll only be a 1-year contract.
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LA to TheBay: I’m hungry, Reg. I’m a boar hunter, unlike these soft @$$ divas out here.
Reggie: I’m glad to have you on board, LA. Let’s discuss your contract at my usual booth at IHOP. Also…. I can only pay you in pancakes and a club option for 10% off a Rooty Tooty Fresh and Fruity.
March 13th, 2013 at 7:50 am
Patrick Chung went somewhere…Tampa?
March 13th, 2013 at 7:51 am
Patrick Chung went somewhere…Tampa?
philly
March 13th, 2013 at 7:51 am
Take Osi Umenyiora for example. He’s on record saying He’d LOVE to come back to the Giants. Right now he’s being tickled at the notion of big money, but his heart is in NY and probably just wants a fair deal….
The sad part to me, is that there’s probably not MANY players that actually want to be Raiders anymore. We represent dysfunction on all levels. As badly as I WANT to win. I think overhaul is neccessary. I don’t want to just win NEXT year, I want to be a perrenial playoff team and back in the preseason Super Bowl discussion again.
March 13th, 2013 at 7:51 am
Bernard Pollard just been released…anyone?
March 13th, 2013 at 7:52 am
the oakland buccaneers of the 80’s thanks reggie…
March 13th, 2013 at 7:53 am
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/nfl-free-agency-2013-day-one-losers-112139293–nfl.html
“Oakland Raiders: The current Raiders front office, led by the able Reggie McKenzie, is still paying for the sins of the past. On Tuesday, they cut loose two former first-round disappointments set up for them by the late Al Davis in receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey and safety Michael Huff. Davis had a history (at least a recent history) of blowing it big with high picks, and that can take years to overcome. In addition, the cap-strapped Raiders lost perhaps their best defensive lineman, tackle Desmond Bryant, to the Cleveland Browns. ESPN.com’s Bill Williamson puts it best: as it stands now, the Raiders have just three set starters on defense — lineman Lamarr Houston, linebacker Miles Burriss, and safety Tyvon Branch. At least to this point, they’ve decided to stick with veteran quarterback Carson Palmer and his $13 million base salary. Perhaps they have a plan in which Palmer can play defense as well.”
March 13th, 2013 at 7:53 am
Violent Hands nailed it. Be cool.
I welcome changing the Raider rep. This is NOT where you come to get paid 3x your value.
And why trash one year contracts? Soon we will have the cash to keep players who have PROVEN their worth to OUR coaches.
March 13th, 2013 at 7:53 am
I don’t want to just win NEXT year, I want to be a perrenial playoff team and back in the preseason Super Bowl discussion again.
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I want to win NOW. I’m impatient. Call me a typical Al Davis old school Raider fan. I’m stubborn.
March 13th, 2013 at 7:55 am
The sad part to me, is that there’s probably not MANY players that actually want to be Raiders anymore.
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We’re building through the draft. Maybe some tier 1 FAs next year. When our two best FAs (tier 2 types at that) take off for other teams after we pursue them dilligently — not a good sign and a not a good message to other potential FAs. We’d have to sell them on a concept, not a track record.
March 13th, 2013 at 7:55 am
Wheeler, Bryant they’re all corn inside the turd. If this was a top 5, heck even a top 10 D they would be so average. I mean they’re serviceable, that’s about it.
As far as Huff and the minimal cap saving. Maybe RM went to everyone and told them he’s cutting the fat even more and some players just wanted no part of it. I’d rather have people in that want to be on the ground floor of building something big(hopefully) then glom onto a championship team already.
As far as RM, since he can’t even talk very well, I think his specialty is talent observation. No excuses in this draft or when this mess is cleaned up. He better be hittin home runs!
PC
March 13th, 2013 at 7:56 am
The pigeon is an upgrade from Huffy.
Resign the bird!
March 13th, 2013 at 7:56 am
I thought Wheeler wanted to play for a winning team and contender. The Dolphins?!?!
March 13th, 2013 at 7:56 am
It’s getting pretty Ugly. Make some damm moves already.
March 13th, 2013 at 7:57 am
I thought Wheeler wanted to play for a winning team and contender. The Dolphins?!?!
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The fish are big time spending this offseason. Don’t sleep on them.
March 13th, 2013 at 7:57 am
2013 Mottos:
“Clowning for Clowney”
or is RM and DA “Mouth hugging for Manziel”?
Either way this is the Raiders that so many of you wanted, a “modern day franchise.”
March 13th, 2013 at 7:57 am
I don’t want to just win NEXT year, I want to be a perrenial playoff team and back in the preseason Super Bowl discussion again.
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Well, the first part of your wish is about to come true. The second part is going to take 4 years or more to determine.
March 13th, 2013 at 7:57 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
Violent Hands nailed it. Be cool.
I welcome changing the Raider rep. This is NOT where you come to get paid 3x your value.
And why trash one year contracts? Soon we will have the cash to keep players who have PROVEN their worth to OUR coaches.
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Like Condo! Whole bunch of coaches, actually.
March 13th, 2013 at 7:58 am
Sucks to see Bryant go. He has been the only player we’ve been able to develop and was getting better every year.
March 13th, 2013 at 7:58 am
So cutting Huff saved us less than $2 million against the cap?!
We released our best player in the secondary to free less than $2 million of cap space?
Genius!!
March 13th, 2013 at 7:58 am
1066.Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 7:53 am
Violent Hands nailed it. Be cool.
I welcome changing the Raider rep. This is NOT where you come to get paid 3x your value.
And why trash one year contracts? Soon we will have the cash to keep players who have PROVEN their worth to OUR coaches.
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Then we come back to the question of actual $ vs. cap $.
Fielding a garbage team will lead to lower revenues. Less chance of attracting quality FAs.
Reggie will have to pull of absolutely genius draft selections and have a keen eye for day 2+ FAs that just want to prove themselves.
At least we’ll be hungry and underpaid vs. lazy and overpaid.
March 13th, 2013 at 7:59 am
Guest123 Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 7:57 am
I thought Wheeler wanted to play for a winning team and contender. The Dolphins?!?!
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The fish are big time spending this offseason. Don’t sleep on them.
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I know they have a good defense, but their offense needs a lot of work.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:00 am
r8eray Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 7:48 am
JFB, BREAKING NEWS!!!!!!
Steelers signed QB Bruce Gradkowski to a three-year contract!!!
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They must have remembered that game in 09′ when he led an awesome comeback!
March 13th, 2013 at 8:00 am
1078.Raider O Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 7:58 am
So cutting Huff saved us less than $2 million against the cap?!
We released our best player in the secondary to free less than $2 million of cap space?
Genius!!
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Huff is not the best player in the secondary. And the moral boost from his release is worth more than $2 million
March 13th, 2013 at 8:01 am
Good Morning Raider Nation!
I’m not feeling the doom and gloom.
And I’m not waiting for 2014 and beyond, either.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:01 am
Huff is not the best player in the secondary. And the moral boost from his release is worth more than $2 million
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We have a winner!
March 13th, 2013 at 8:03 am
I hope that “moral boost” can cover WRs and TEs and play CB or S.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:03 am
Look at it this way… 3/4 of our team will be playing like they are in a contract year, because they are!
March 13th, 2013 at 8:04 am
I didn’t expect us to sign anyone yesterday, so I’m not bothered much by that. I did expect us to keep Bryant and maybe Wheeler.
It’s two more holes that we have to fill and those guys were starters.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:04 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 8:03 am
Look at it this way… 3/4 of our team will be playing like they are in a contract year, because they are!
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
LOL
They kept condo
March 13th, 2013 at 8:04 am
if huff was not the best who was? gio? bartell?
March 13th, 2013 at 8:04 am
1085.Raider O Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 8:03 am
I hope that “moral boost” can cover WRs and TEs and play CB or S.
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I’m sure better than Huff ever did.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:05 am
3/4 of the team will leave again…
March 13th, 2013 at 8:05 am
I hope that “moral boost” can cover WRs and TEs and play CB or S.
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Regg’s already ahead of you! Taiwan Jones at CB. Brilliant.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:05 am
Raider O Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 8:03 am
I hope that “moral boost” can cover WRs and TEs and play CB or S.
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Well it’s not like Huff did any of those things anyways.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:06 am
1089.Al_is_theraiders Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 8:04 am
if huff was not the best who was? gio? bartell?
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I wish we could stick Gio in Huff’s body. Best FS in the league.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:07 am
moral boost? wtf is this boyscouts?
March 13th, 2013 at 8:08 am
LA to TheBay Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 8:06 am
1089.Al_is_theraiders Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 8:04 am
if huff was not the best who was? gio? bartell?
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I wish we could stick Gio in Huff’s body. Best FS in the league
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I wish we could stick them both in a wood chipper.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:08 am
urvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 8:01 am
Good Morning Raider Nation!
I’m not feeling the doom and gloom.
And I’m not waiting for 2014 and beyond, either.
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Please share your reason for optimism Purvis.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:08 am
lmao…gio couldnt tackle palmer in the open field…
March 13th, 2013 at 8:08 am
AP
The Raiders said goodbye to wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey on Tuesday and it hasn’t taken long for someone to start wooing him to a new team.
Bills wide receiver Stevie Johnson told Josina Anderson of ESPN that he wants Heyward-Bey to make the trip across the country to become part of the offense in Buffalo. Johnson’s sales pitch centered on Heyward-Bey not having to do as much in the Bills offense as he was asked to do in Oakland.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:08 am
All I ask is for coaches to train the new, younger, cheaper Condo. LS makin 1.2 mil vs 600k for Adams?! He doubles TP’s salary too!
If I were Gordon I’d learn the job ASAP.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:09 am
1070.Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 7:56 am
The pigeon is an upgrade from Huffy.
Resign the bird!
Follow Raider Pigeon on twitter! Whoever that is…is funny as hell!
March 13th, 2013 at 8:10 am
LMAO at 1096
March 13th, 2013 at 8:11 am
DHB: come to Buffalo, be a slacker. get paid.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:11 am
If Reggie is indeed taking the “Build through the draft” approach, it will take at least 5 years to be competitive again. Thanks but not thanks to that.
There is no excuse not to sign some quality FA’s, 2nd tier albeit, in order to be competitive next year unless you are purposefully trying to run this team into the ground or buy yourself 3 more years with the build through the draft garbage. F U REGGIE
March 13th, 2013 at 8:13 am
I wonder what Pryor thinks today… DHB was probably dropping his passes all offseason.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:13 am
code completely awful
March 13th, 2013 at 8:13 am
Biggest surprises are letting Bryant and Wheeler walk, as well as cutting Huff.
But hey, at least our cap number looks better. Lol. Sigh…
March 13th, 2013 at 8:14 am
Seems like last year, Reg tried to be competitive and just add a few low key pieces. When that didn’t work (thanks, Greg), he got the OK form Mark to jettison the schmucks and start with a clearer slate.
I doubt 5 years but it will take a good two or three, considering we can get some Wheeler types in this FA class and some ballers next year and *presuming* we draft well.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:15 am
Code clown
March 13th, 2013 at 8:15 am
Biggest surprises are letting Bryant and Wheeler walk, as well as cutting Huff.
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Apparently not for lack of trying, which is a bit disappointing.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:15 am
Not suprised that Reggie is taking the long approach. He’s got no fear for his job. He gets fired and he still gets paid. What a dumbass move by Mark to guarantee both Mark and DA for 3 years.
Make all your players prove themselves on one year deals, but don’t require the same level of proof from the GM and coach? What was this talk about accountability?
March 13th, 2013 at 8:15 am
$32 million in dead money!!!!
Hopefully you guys who were not convinced before about our cap issues understand what I have been trying to say for several years.
We were a 4-12 team that finished the season at $5 million OVER the cap. That is ridiculous.
With players playing at that level we should be $30 million UNDER the cap.
I assure you we were not 4-12 because of Greg Knapp.
Our players are bad or at the very least NOT ANY WHERE NEAR THE LEVEL OF THEIR CONTRACTS!!!
Build your core through the draft especially on the line of scrimmage.
In the meantime you can use a free agent here and there to buy time till you draft the right guy or let the right guy develop.
Once in a long while will you get a free agent that is a big difference maker (Gannon) and that usually happens when the team releasing the player has a perceived surplus of talent at the position (Grbac). Again, that will only happen when the rest of the base (Oline) is in place.
As a rule free agents are “free” for a reason (injury history, attitude issues, high salary demands etc.) and rarely if ever produce up to their contracts.
On a percentage basis, young hungry rookies with the salary cap in place are much better values.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:16 am
reggie wont be here for year 3
March 13th, 2013 at 8:16 am
Ravens are really losing a lot of guys on Defense.
Pollard-Yes please.
How many guys has he put out of action?
Bring him aboard!
March 13th, 2013 at 8:16 am
Bills wide receiver Stevie Johnson told Josina Anderson of ESPN that he wants Heyward-Bey to make the trip across the country to become part of the offense in Buffalo. Johnson’s sales pitch centered on Heyward-Bey not having to do as much in the Bills offense as he was asked to do in Oakland
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Lol! Sounds like the old Raiders. Remember when swervin’ Mervyn went to the Niners then decided to hang’em up because the Niner offense was too complicated?
March 13th, 2013 at 8:17 am
Hwnrdr Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 7:51 am
Bernard Pollard just been released…anyone?
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I hate that guy for his obvious intentions to injure players.
He has a history of that. He was the one who messed up Brady for a season and then Gronkowski. He intentionally rolls over guys’ lower legs when he tackles and is a vicious head hunter.
Reminds me a bit of the old school Raiders Tatum and Atkinson.
I’d hate him less if he was with the Raiders.
I’m not gonna get my hopes up cuz so far Reggie doesn’t get anybody I like…or who I think can help us win.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:17 am
1108. My only problem with that is what’s the point of getting “Wheeler” type FA’s if you’re going to let them go the following year if they do play well.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:17 am
Hwnrdr Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 7:43 am
1038.Que Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 7:39 am
the point is the ravens since ozzie? that could be us. we shouldnt act the way we do on here with reggie
I agree! And who knows, had (goodness, keep forgetting his name) that receiver caught the ball last year, this may have been a back to back Championship year for them!
I didnt like that move, I wanted AL to trade for him instead of moss . But again, ozzie is the man and we might have a sharp gm also. I just alot of us have had a tough too many years and we can’t deal with a couple years of start from fresh. But it doesnt have to be 5 years. We ve seen a few teams some luck is involved. Who knows , enjoy the ride
March 13th, 2013 at 8:18 am
College teams have less turnover.. dont forget to get your orogram . Cant tell whos who without a program…
March 13th, 2013 at 8:18 am
Its all about those books, baby.
Remember there are two entities involved in Raider football. Theres the ownership of the team and the ownership of Al Davis football inc which is the entity that manages the team and that’s where Mark and Carol remain in charge.
Al locked up that contract for good.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:20 am
Guest
I have said before this is a 3-5 year project and Mark Davis knows it.
This was an unprecedented mess that has never been seen before in the NFL in the cap era.
No one would take the job for less than a four year deal.
The Raiders have been a joke for a decade because of ten years of bad drfats and horrible cap management since 2007.
Don’t blame Reggie or DA
March 13th, 2013 at 8:20 am
Charlie, With only 5 picks in the draft it’s gonna be tough to fill a roster with new picks. We are gonna have to rely heavily on free agency just to fill the roster.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:20 am
Wonder what Pollard will be asking? I don’t see him coming here but…hey, it wouldn’t be bad!
March 13th, 2013 at 8:20 am
Who knows , enjoy the ride
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Enjoy the 4-12 Seasons! A true fan can’t enjoy this B.S.
We were warned that Reggie was going to gut the place. Well here we go…..
crossing our fingers that in 7 years we might get back to 8-8
March 13th, 2013 at 8:21 am
Judge, we got no money for Wheeler types til next year.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:21 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 8:21 am
Judge, we got no money for Wheeler types til next year.
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We have money for Wheeler this year and it didn’t happen.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:23 am
Bryant got a fat deal… clev is spending AD style.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:23 am
Que Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 8:17 am
We ve seen a few teams some luck is involved. Who knows , enjoy the ride
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I got a visual of Bruce Willis walking into Harlem with nothing but a sandwich board with racial slurs.
“Enjoy the Ride! Wish you good luck!”
March 13th, 2013 at 8:24 am
I say no to Pollard, we already have hard hitting safties who can’t cover.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:25 am
we haven’t lost any great players we don’t have any great players to lose that’s why we need to start over.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:25 am
Que Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 8:17 am
We ve seen a few teams some luck is involved. Who knows , enjoy the ride
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I am not enjoying this ride.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:25 am
Reggie is an over matched rube.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:26 am
I got a visual of Bruce Willis walking into Harlem with nothing but a sandwich board with racial slurs.
“Enjoy the Ride! Wish you good luck!”
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Yippee Kai Yea – LOL! That was funny. But if Reggie does not do something to improve the situation I may not even get rewind.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:26 am
DJ
Streeter was a FA.
We are not going to go for high priced FAs.
Young hungry players that want to play football is what we are looking for.
We are going to build massive lines on both sides of the ball through high draft picks and then get WR RB’s and DB’s in the later rounds the way we used to do it.
The lack of picks and our cap issues are why I have said this is a 3-5 year project.
Our first pick this year will be Oline. Our third round pick is DT.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:26 am
Trade palmer dmac kelly and slow!
March 13th, 2013 at 8:27 am
Charlie Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 8:20 am
‘Don’t blame Reggie or DA’
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Why can’t I blame them? But you are right, I blame MD the most. $33 million in dead money in one year is no way to run a team. The sins of the past don’t absolve Raider management from having a well thought out plan on taking us into the future. This is a free fall unless there are some key free agent signings soon.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:27 am
1108. My only problem with that is what’s the point of getting “Wheeler” type FA’s if you’re going to let them go the following year if they do play well.
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I think we wanted to lock Wheeler up during the season but our cap situation wouldn’t allow for it.
I guess I would modify that to say Wheeler types on say, 2 or 3 yr deals.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:28 am
Guest123!
I dont do race. I became a raiders fan during the 80s. And what made me so proud was the owner and the raiders way of giving people second chance and also the history. African american colleges and coaching also alot of firsts. I wont comment on anything race. I think the Reggie race stuff is not what the raiders are about
March 13th, 2013 at 8:28 am
Wheeler was one of the wins Reggie had last yr. but it actually turns out to be “loss”, so erase that one from the Reggie ‘Victory Board’.
People said Wheeler showed Reggie’s astute eye for talent, but it was only a wild guess on his part.
If he really saw the talent in Wheeler he would’ve signed him for more than a year.
Now..if Philip Adams turns out to be a stud we are screwed again for next yr.
Reggie doesn’t even trust himself.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:29 am
Whats the ride called? Another 10 yrs of bullshìt?
March 13th, 2013 at 8:29 am
A bit of glass is half full reasoning for all of you on the ledge:
Wheeler can be replaced easily if we sign the Rock’s nephew today.
We already have DHB’s replacement in either Streater, Criner or a healthy Ford.
Huff can be easily replaced by anyone on GB’s practice squad for 1/3 the asking price. Maybe the Honey Badger can be had in the 3rd round.
Bryant will be replaced with our #3 or if we trade down, best available DT wherever we land.
That still leaves Kelly, Seymour & Slo to replace and I have no clue how or where they can be replaced from.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:30 am
1139. Bingo
March 13th, 2013 at 8:30 am
I guess I would modify that to say Wheeler types on say, 2 or 3 yr deals.
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Problem with that is that Wheeler was just one good FA out of many flops. When you do that (2-3yr deals), you get stuck like we are with Brisel.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:30 am
Charlie
If there is some kind of bidding war for Fisher or Millner do you see us trading down?
Secondly if Seattle trades its 1st and Flynn with our 5th back for the #3 – would we do it?
I am not sure the value in only getting one player for our #3 in this situation.
Also was not Upshaw a later round pic. I think we used all kinds of pics to build our lines in the past.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:30 am
On the other side of the coin, would you guys have wanted to commit 28 mill guaranteed and 12 mill per year to retain Wheeler and Bryant? A lot of dough there for some slightly above average players.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:30 am
If you guys didn’t see this coming last year when he was hired, then you are blind fools.
Get over it!
We are rebuilding–this is what it looks like. Don’t go to a game, don’t watch a game, and go be a 9ers fan, but while your over there, remember that it took about 6 years of REBUILDING through the draft for them to get where they are now.
Stop Crying…the tab was due, Reggie is paying it.
How can any of this be a surprise to you guys? We haven’t been good for a decade–don’t you think it is about time we do something different and oh, I don’t know, join the rest of the league and do what the successful teams do in this era?
March 13th, 2013 at 8:31 am
Though in decent cap shape, far better than the usually have been recently, the Raiders have a couple more abnormally large contracts to deal with. They very likely will be dealing with them soon as they work their way hopefully to financial soundness.
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thanks for the link, G123
so Reggie is $16 mil UNDER right now and we’ll be in even better shape after trading or releasing the fearsome foursome (Palmer, McFadden, Kelly & McClain)
funny you guys throw in the towel after Day 1 of free agency. You’ll be Raider fans again by Preseason when our team looks better than it did last offseason and BigMac fixed the cap situation in just 2 summers
March 13th, 2013 at 8:31 am
Kelly is still under contract and I would imagine Slo’s replacement will be Gaither or a mid rounder.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:31 am
If he really saw the talent in Wheeler he would’ve signed him for more than a year.
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Very true.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:33 am
I was a bit surprised at Huff. But he was expensive and maybe didn’t fit with DA’s supposed master plan on D that couldn’t be implemented ’cause of personnel.
The 2 million cap savings doesn’t sound right. Levi’s saying much more and has a way more accurate history on cap and salary numbers than the Corkster.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:33 am
Marks hair Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 8:26 am
Trade palmer dmac kelly and slow!
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This isn’t even controversial anymore. I don’t think there is anyone left to believe this years team is going to be anything besides hot garbage, so why keep anyone?
Just TARP baby!
March 13th, 2013 at 8:33 am
1143.The_Judge37 Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 8:30 am
I guess I would modify that to say Wheeler types on say, 2 or 3 yr deals.
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Problem with that is that Wheeler was just one good FA out of many flops. When you do that (2-3yr deals), you get stuck like we are with Brisel.
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I would argue injury hampered the other Reggie FAs, save Streater.
Briesel may just suck but he was good in Houston and apparently played through injury the whole year. Bartell (actually looked terrible in his one start) was injured and Spencer (who looked decent) injured as well.
Ross and Adams look like solid finds.
I’m not in panic mode…. just a bit impatient.
I honestly still think we’ll be better this year than last.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:34 am
WTF, I agree with the hillbilly bean counter?
March 13th, 2013 at 8:35 am
Im fine with the cuts.. should have done the firesale last yr.. fat idiot..
March 13th, 2013 at 8:36 am
On the other side of the coin, would you guys have wanted to commit 28 mill guaranteed and 12 mill per year to retain Wheeler and Bryant? A lot of dough there for some slightly above average players.
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1) I’d like to think that either/both would have taken a hometown discount.
2) We apparently had the money to sign them if you look at the $16 million cap figure.
3) We will likely be cutting TK, Slo, maybe even Carson and get another $12 million in cap space.
We will look back on the day Dez Bryant and Wheeler left on a day when the free agent pool is ankle deep and wonder why we didn’t act before free agency to keep at least one of them.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:36 am
The Big Banana Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 8:30 am
On the other side of the coin, would you guys have wanted to commit 28 mill guaranteed and 12 mill per year to retain Wheeler and Bryant? A lot of dough there for some slightly above average players.
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Ideally, he should’ve locked them up before they got a chance to get those offers. And i think they were productive enough to earn $6 mill each. Bryant improved every year he was here.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:36 am
MikieG Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 8:30 am
If you guys didn’t see this coming last year when he was hired, then you are blind fools.
Get over it!
We are rebuilding–this is what it looks like. Don’t go to a game, don’t watch a game, and go be a 9ers fan, but while your over there, remember that it took about 6 years of REBUILDING through the draft for them to get where they are now.
Stop Crying…the tab was due, Reggie is paying it.
How can any of this be a surprise to you guys? We haven’t been good for a decade–don’t you think it is about time we do something different and oh, I don’t know, join the rest of the league and do what the successful teams do in this era?
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Yeah the fruitywhiners had someone smart building their roster. He’s still available BTW.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:36 am
49ers are the new “dream team” every player wants to jump ship to
I predict that (just like Philly) they will crumble and finish 2nd or 3rd in that division
Seattle wins the NFC West
March 13th, 2013 at 8:37 am
funny you guys throw in the towel after Day 1 of free agency. You’ll be Raider fans again by Preseason when our team looks better than it did last offseason and BigMac fixed the cap situation in just 2 summers
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I am just curious why you think we will be better?
Sure, we got rid of that stoopid 4000k passer! But we have 9 spots left to fill on defense with a GM more interested in dumpster diving than any long term solutions.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:37 am
when you take a bunch of injury prone rejects you should be surprised they have injuries all year. reggie’s free agents for crap so was his draft class don’t make excuses for him.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:37 am
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March 13th, 2013 at 8:37 am
Just TARP baby!
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TARP the benches!
March 13th, 2013 at 8:37 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 8:31 am
Though in decent cap shape, far better than the usually have been recently, the Raiders have a couple more abnormally large contracts to deal with. They very likely will be dealing with them soon as they work their way hopefully to financial soundness.
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thanks for the link, G123
so Reggie is $16 mil UNDER right now and we’ll be in even better shape after trading or releasing the fearsome foursome (Palmer, McFadden, Kelly & McClain)
funny you guys throw in the towel after Day 1 of free agency. You’ll be Raider fans again by Preseason when our team looks better than it did last offseason and BigMac fixed the cap situation in just 2 summers
Thank YOU..on point
March 13th, 2013 at 8:38 am
1148.LA to TheBay Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 8:31 am
Kelly is still under contract and I would imagine Slo’s replacement will be Gaither or a mid rounder.
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Kelly needs to take a pay cut, that’s a big if, no way he will be retained under his current deal. Don’t see him coming back, and actually I hope he doesn’t, he’s way past his prime.
Gaither is not a starter in this league. He was a temporary band aid. That leaves either a 4th or 6th rounder to replace Slo. Maybe another Burris type guy can be found.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:39 am
Like I said, another year of moaning and groaning! Impatience, whatever…Its been what? 29 years now since the last SB victory!
March 13th, 2013 at 8:39 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 8:36 am
49ers are the new “dream team” every player wants to jump ship to
I predict that (just like Philly) they will crumble and finish 2nd or 3rd in that division
Seattle wins the NFC West
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I am starting to feel a little of that myself. When teams start to scheme them and look to them as the team to beat it might be a little different for them.
I wish the Raiders had this problem though!
March 13th, 2013 at 8:40 am
Rockstar,
I’ll always be a Raider fan. That’s not something that is a choice. You know better than that!
March 13th, 2013 at 8:40 am
Wow…wtf did you want Reggie to do last year with 3 picks? Sure we gained some but our first pick was when again???
March 13th, 2013 at 8:41 am
The_Judge37 Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 8:30 am
I guess I would modify that to say Wheeler types on say, 2 or 3 yr deals.
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Problem with that is that Wheeler was just one good FA out of many flops. When you do that (2-3yr deals), you get stuck like we are with Brisel.
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Yes, but in my opinion that’s why Reggie gets the big bucks…to make those tough decisions.
I think he’s playing it TOO safe….afraid to make a mistake.
I believe in the old adage no risk no reward.
I realize “that’s what got us into trouble in the first place” but there’s a difference between taking risks and foolishly overspending…it may be a bit of a fine line between the two but welcome to the NFL.
Any underling schmuck from an NFL accounting department can slash and burn and draw up low risk one yr. deals, or scour the wire for practice squad rejects.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:41 am
Que
McKensie is on record saying he wants to extend McFadden. Why do you think he will cut him? I am increasingly seeing the rest of your list cut though. I am hoping the Raiders can get some sort of Draft pic from Arizona for CP if they are going that way.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:42 am
The Big Banana Says:
Lol! Sounds like the old Raiders. Remember when swervin’ Mervyn went to the Niners then decided to hang’em up because the Niner offense was too complicated?
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Swerin’ Mervin and Jesse ‘The Jet’ Hester, our consolation prize when the whiners snaked Rice out from under us. Memories.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:42 am
just because I can see the writing on the wall and I can predict last place doesn’t mean I’m not still a fan.. Raider born Raider bred gonna be a Raider till the day im dead!
March 13th, 2013 at 8:43 am
Good Morning Wind.
I would love to trade down.
We must get that team’s first and second THIS year to do it.
Hard to speculate on the potential partner that would be interested. I would say the odds are at best 50/50.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:43 am
Opposing DC’s gameplan to beat the Raiders (from 2012)
man press cover the WR’s who can’t get separation and leave a big window for Carson to throw 4 yard passes to Brandon Myers short of the sticks.
It’s a pretty easy week of preparation and almost another bye week so that DC’s get a lot of extra in season sleep.
2013 Raiders will be even easier to solve.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:44 am
Maybe the team will get better next season because we have 13 new starters with one year contracts knowing if they play well enough they can get a great new contract with a new team!!
Ok… maybe I am getting it now! Great plan reggie!
I am about to see the light!!
March 13th, 2013 at 8:44 am
wheeler-good find by reggie, break out year, wanted more than we could offer
bryant-solid dt, got more than we could offer
no fire sale last year when we were 8-8 the previous year
what’s reggie done wrong this offseason?
March 13th, 2013 at 8:45 am
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March 13th, 2013 at 8:45 am
Problem with that is that Wheeler was just one good FA out of many flops. When you do that (2-3yr deals), you get stuck like we are with Brisel.
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Exactly. Wheeler hadn’t played a whole year. No team wanted him last year. No GM would have given him a multi year deal last year. At least give Reggie credit for taking a risk and getting production from him at a cheap rate. His production can be replaced with someone at half the price this year.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:45 am
Im not a mcfadden guy. I didnt say that. I wanted mcfadden traded two years ago. too much money and not there when we ned him. Hell if he wouldnt have got hurt. we would have made the playoffs problely
March 13th, 2013 at 8:45 am
Guest, all reports indicated we went pretty hard after both Wheeler and Bryant. Apparently they DIDN’T offer any sort of hometown discount.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:46 am
wheeler-good find by reggie, break out year, wanted more than we could offer
bryant-solid dt, got more than we could offer
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untrue. we have $16 mill in cap space.
better to say, they got more than we were ‘willing’ to offer.
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March 13th, 2013 at 8:48 am
1180.LA to TheBay Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 8:45 am
Guest, all reports indicated we went pretty hard after both Wheeler and Bryant. Apparently they DIDN’T offer any sort of hometown discount.
That’s what I’ve been hearing too! Wheeler has been saying that it didn’t look good last week!
March 13th, 2013 at 8:49 am
There are plenty of good players out there. All we need is one guy others want to play with.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:49 am
untrue. we have $16 mill in cap space.
better to say, they got more than we were ‘willing’ to offer.
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are you saying we should have paid more than what cleveland/miami paid?
March 13th, 2013 at 8:49 am
Reggie doesn’t know how to find talent. And if a guy like Bryant is worth 35mil he should have been traded last year we could have got some kind of pic for him obviously.. same goes for D Mac and Palmer and Kelly.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:49 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 5:28 pm
Well today has been pretty depressing. Not even a mid-tier signing or even report of a guy visiting. Philip Adams and his squished cocunut as the only resing of our own FA. Palmer still on the roster, Wheeler gone.
It’s days like today that I am thankful the Good Lord created titty bars.
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March 13th, 2013 at 8:50 am
Trapp
The Niners NEVER were in the shape the Raiders were when Reggie took the job.
NO TEAM IN THE NFL WAS EVER BEEN IN THIS SHAPE IN THE CAP ERA.
Lack of picks and having ridiculous contracts for players that lack talent is not Reggie’s fault and it does not get fixed in two seasons.
If Reggie were to be fired he would still be owed three years of salary per his four year contract.
What should Mark say to any potential candidates as to why the dismissal occurred; keeping in mind the worst cap situation in the history of the NFL, a lack of draft picks till 2014 a roster with relatively little talent and a 2012 season filled with injuries???????
What is the measure of “success” for the new candidate? Improvement over last year (5-11)?????? Improvement over 2011 (9-7)????? Playoffs???????
Given your answer to the previous two questions how many good candidates will you reasonably attract ???????
Keep in mind that the higher the expectation, the more salary and years of contract will need to be offered to attract potential candidates. The length of contract you offer needs to be consistent with the aforementioned definition of success. (I.e. A one year contract to get to the playoffs probably will not attract many good candidates.)
Finally, keep in mind the very distinct possibility, that if the new candidate fails in his first year to meet “expectations” that you have outlined earlier, are you willing to pursue a third candidate, while paying the two other “failures”.
Not so simple, eh?
As I have said, the Raider situation is a complex, multifaceted and dynamic problem will take 3-5 years to correct. Never has occurred before in the NFL. Ever.
It is a decade long decline of poor drafts, dysfunctional front office management, outdated scouting, excessive coaching turnover and horrible cap management resulting in overpaying for terrible free agent and trade acquisitions.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:50 am
I’m saying we could have gotten at least one of them back. I think Wheeler for sure.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:51 am
I bet more cuts/restructures to come today…. notably Palmer, Kelly, and possibly extension of DMAC (no better time than now) to lower his 2012 cap figure. He’ll ball out this year. With our luck, he’ll do so in a contract year and we’ll get nothing for him when he bounces for NE or SF next year.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:51 am
Reggie is going to have to get some more draft picks. Kiss #3 goodbye he’ll take anything now…
March 13th, 2013 at 8:52 am
Charlie Says:
$32 million in dead money!!!!
Hopefully you guys who were not convinced before about our cap issues understand what I have been trying to say for several years.
We were a 4-12 team that finished the season at $5 million OVER the cap. That is ridiculous.
With players playing at that level we should be $30 million UNDER the cap.
I assure you we were not 4-12 because of Greg Knapp.
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Playoff teams on average have more dead money than non playoff teams.
Indy went 11-5 with a league leading 38.5 million in dead money.
Knapp was a very large part of us not scoring despite OK offensive stats.
The defense was the rest of the problem almost perrenially and why I’m not stressing over the cuts walks.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:52 am
All that matters (or should) from a fans standpoint is what happens when we turn on the TV on Sunday…nobody cares about anything else.
People who mercilessly rib me for being a Raider fan don’t give a red rat’s rip that we are financially sound or not.
Not that I would ever use that as a “comeback”.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:52 am
Good post Charlie!
March 13th, 2013 at 8:53 am
I am just curious why you think we will be better?
Sure, we got rid of that stoopid 4000k passer! But we have 9 spots left to fill on defense with a GM more interested in dumpster diving than any long term solutions.
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Gdog,
I’m not a fan of Carson Palmer. pretty sure you know that by now. Whoever starts at QB next year, be it Pryor or free agent stopgap will win more games than Carson (4)
regarding the defense, I think Reggie will use most of his draft picks here. We desperately need DB’s and pass rushers. Can’t afford to compete with teams willing to break the bank for vets, but we’ll find plenty of diamond in the rough type guys. the Derrick Burgess, Danny Clark, Chris Clemons & Phil Wheeler type guys who did nothing before they got here and we milked production out of them ON THE CHEAP
March 13th, 2013 at 8:54 am
PFF:
+0.5: Common sense shines through
Desmond Bryant (DT) to CLE: 5-year, $34m deal
If it weren’t for the money involved this would get a higher grade because Bryant is a guy who can really play. He was our sixth ranked defensive tackle last year with the sixth highest pass rushing productivity of all his peers. But he’s more than just a one dimensional pass rusher, and his versatility (he spent most of 2011 at defensive end for the Raiders) makes him an excellent fit for a Cleveland defense that needs guy who can make an impact up front.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:55 am
JLofty Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 8:51 am
Reggie is going to have to get some more draft picks. Kiss #3 goodbye he’ll take anything now…
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I’m more and more in the camp that it’s something Reggie has to do now. He’s got too many holes to fill and needs the picks and capspace.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:55 am
the point is to be a consistent contender, that doesn’t happen when your $ is tied in to a couple of guys.
bryant and wheeler got paid superstar money, but neither is a superstar.
how much better is bryant than houston? imo they play the same position
wheeler was our best lb but he’s not an elite pass rusher
you build through the draft, keep your superstars, the only potential superstar we have is dmac
March 13th, 2013 at 8:55 am
We just resigned Coye Francies! Have fun with that one guys!
March 13th, 2013 at 8:56 am
Cp kelly slow and dmacs for sale! Make your best offer
March 13th, 2013 at 8:56 am
Charlie, If the Raiders problems have never before been seen in the NFL…ever, than how can u be sure it’s gonna take 3-5 yr’s to fix? There’s no precedent.
March 13th, 2013 at 8:56 am
Whoever starts at QB next year, be it Pryor or free agent stopgap will win more games than Carson (4)
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@ RRS, what makes you so sure about that?
March 13th, 2013 at 8:57 am
We just resigned Coye Francies! Have fun with that one guys!
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punching my LCD screen
March 13th, 2013 at 8:59 am
We just resigned Coye Francies!
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I thought we already had towel boys on staff?
March 13th, 2013 at 8:59 am
DJ
My point has been that improving on 2011 was highly unlikely given the lack of picks, lack of roster talent and injuries we incurred.
Other teams THAT WERE IN BETTER POSITION THAN WE WERE IN RECENT YEARS REGARDING CAP AND PICKS (Seahawks/Redskins) took 3 years to get to the playoffs.
That is why I am saying 3-5.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:00 am
you guys are acting like we’re the ravens, superbowl team being stripped of talent. it’s gonna take time to get rid of the out of whack contracts my beloved Al Davis signed
and until we’re winners, we aren’t getting discounts in fact we have to overpay free agents, fu#k that if they wanna leave fu#k em, can’t blame em but they aren’t Raiders anymore
March 13th, 2013 at 9:01 am
hwnrdr Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 8:55 am
We just resigned Coye Francies! Have fun with that one guys!
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superbowl!
March 13th, 2013 at 9:02 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
Why are so many panic mode?
Out w/ the old, in w/ the new.
We are rebuilding people!!!
I like Reggie’s moves so far.
DHB was a great kid and teammate, but was making too much dough for his services.
Huff can’t tackle and puts no fear in anyone. His coverage is suspect and he was over payed by Al.
Tollefson was non-existent, Reggie fked up on this one and realized he needed to be cut.
With DHB gone, it will open up more playing time for Streater, who I believe has great potential to be a #1 WR.
As for Huff, we won’t miss a beat w/out him. There are lots of solid safeties in this draft who can replace him easily at a lower cost.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:02 am
With a bunch of CB’s still in the market, now’s the time to steal a good one instead of picking from what’s left over.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:03 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 8:53 am
I am just curious why you think we will be better?
Sure, we got rid of that stoopid 4000k passer! But we have 9 spots left to fill on defense with a GM more interested in dumpster diving than any long term solutions.
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Gdog,
I’m not a fan of Carson Palmer. pretty sure you know that by now. Whoever starts at QB next year, be it Pryor or free agent stopgap will win more games than Carson (4)
regarding the defense, I think Reggie will use most of his draft picks here. We desperately need DB’s and pass rushers. Can’t afford to compete with teams willing to break the bank for vets, but we’ll find plenty of diamond in the rough type guys. the Derrick Burgess, Danny Clark, Chris Clemons & Phil Wheeler type guys who did nothing before they got here and we milked production out of them ON THE CHEAP
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The problem with defensive rookies is and always has been they all are such hit-or-miss. Even the top ten players are 50/50 flops… so with nine spots needing upgrades on defense, I will be overjoyed if we hit on even THREE of them through the draft. Burris, who every seems to think was a great draft pick, was the lowest rated 4-3 OLB by PFF. 43rd out of 43.
That leaves six spots for Reggie to upgrade or even remain the same through dumpster diving one year contacts on defense.
And we still need a TE, WR, and o-line help.
Not to mention anyone looking at Pryor over a 4000 yard passer as an upgrade is gulping the Koolade by the pail-full.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:03 am
Whoever starts at QB next year, be it Pryor or free agent stopgap will win more games than Carson (4)
what makes me so sure about that?
Attn: G123
better coaching, better defense, better special teams, improved run game, another year of maturity for Pryor and the young wides & tights. I’m not predicting playoffs, but i’m not predicting 2 wins and the #1 overall draft pick (like you guys!) either. Relax. BigMac will handle this
March 13th, 2013 at 9:03 am
Witnesses report that a man seen staggering out of a strip club screaming “There is no God” has been detained by authorities and taken to a local hospital for observation.
The incident occurred shortly after a stripper named Denise Ella went on stage wearing nothing but high heels and an Oakland Raider helmet.
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LMFAO
March 13th, 2013 at 9:04 am
Hey Charlie, McCloughan found players after round 1. Reggie got us the worst OLB in the league and a 26 year old G that was drafted for the ZBS, and he got blown over when he was out there.
The salary cap doesn’t explain why he was dumb enough to fire Hue, then hire suckass Denise after interviewing the likes of Tice, Morneweigh and Browles. Bowles was the only one I would have taken a 2nd look at. Then what did they do? They scrap the offense and hire fu**ing Greg Knapp. Hilarious. Again, none of those moves have anything to do with the salary cap. In fact, they had no problem cutting the ST, OL & OC hires. And what do they do? They go back to the power scheme. Yup, “Long-term planning” there. What roster upgrades has Shreg made? Brisel? That’s laughable. He used what little salary cap space there was and signed the 74th best Guard out of 81. Again, NONE of that has to do with salary cap, it has to do with poor decisions.
No team or dynasty has ever decreased their win totals for 2 straight years. Don’t give me crap about 3-5 years. Hue took Jason Campbell, DHB, Murphy, a rookie at LT and made us the #6 scoring offense after a decade of crap. This is all about getting the most out of your players which this staff has FAILED at. Yes, I would like a roster upgrade, but that doesn’t mean Shreg is worth a sh!t. So far he isn’t.
And I bet you dollars to donuts, McCloughan would JUMP at the chance to be here as GM. Help out his dad’s team and stick it to SF.
Gruden/McCloughan 2014!
March 13th, 2013 at 9:09 am
better coaching, better defense, better special teams, improved run game, another year of maturity for Pryor and the young wides & tights.
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very optimistic considering we haven’t seen even the first OTA nor do we know what we will get to replace our free agent holes nor our draft picks. Just a lot of pressing of the ‘I believe’ button. Good luck with that.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:10 am
DMAC Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 9:02 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
Q-bo DMAC
March 13th, 2013 at 9:10 am
inonewordraider Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 9:01 am
hwnrdr Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 8:55 am
We just resigned Coye Francies! Have fun with that one guys!
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superbowl!
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Here comes the cavalry!
March 13th, 2013 at 9:10 am
Trapp
You did not answer the questions I posed.
Fact is no one comes here without a long term deal.
I have also quickly pulled together a top of mind list of recent regimes that struggled without the necessary resources in their early years.
I am sure there are others.
Pete Carroll 7-9 First season 14-18 first TWO seasons
Mike Shanahan 6-10 First season 11-21 first TWO seasons (in Washington)
Belichick 36-44 in Cleveland 5-11 first season 16-16 first TWO seasons (in NE)
Reid 5-11 First season 16-16 first two seasons
None of these coaches faced the challenges we have in Oakland. Missing 3 of your top four picks in your first two drafts slows the building process a bit. So does being $30 million over the cap when you take the job.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:11 am
Not to mention anyone looking at Pryor over a 4000 yard passer as an upgrade is gulping the Koolade by the pail-full.
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Maybe so, Gdog. I’ll take that one on the chin if Pryor flops. I’m just saying he deserves an opportunity, thats all. Toss him in the starting lineup and see what he does for 5 or 6 games. If he flops, fine. Toss in the vet mentor stopgap guy to save face or save Allen’s job. I think Pryor brings a lot to the table, skillset wise. I hope he’s improved footwork & throwing mechanics this offseason. We’ll see
worst case scenario = franchise QB in 2014. we know Palm isn’t the future and TP is unproven right now. I’m not in JFB’s club of reach for Geno, but I wouldn’t be a bit surprised to see him selected in the Top 5 or 10 picks
March 13th, 2013 at 9:13 am
G123,
let me know how that “we’ll never win more than 4 games!” line of thinking works out for ya. It’s gonna be a long 6 months bro. Enjoy life and hope for the best. We’ll be fine
March 13th, 2013 at 9:14 am
3 Starters on defense????
RDE – Houston
NT -
LDE – Bilikudi
OLB – Mingo
ILB – Burris
ILB – McClain
OLB – FA from Browns
LCB – Adams
RCB – Chekwa/Jones
FS – Ross
SS – Branch
March 13th, 2013 at 9:15 am
Coye played for the Las Vegas Locos a few years ago!
March 13th, 2013 at 9:15 am
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
Good Morning Raider Nation!
I’m not feeling the doom and gloom.
And I’m not waiting for 2014 and beyond, either.
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DJ Johnny Says:
Please share your reason for optimism Purvis.
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Not feeling the doom and gloom is not quite the same as optimism.
Haven’t messed with the offense and I think most of that messing should by addition with a couple kept for depth. More on that in a bit.
Been hearing for years about the Raiders dominant Defensive front four. Some how I missed it.
Sure, we can blame a poor secondary, or when they’re playing well, blame the linebackers.
Point is, if you have a weak link, it will be exploited.
You’re better off average across the board than strong in one areaand weak in another. Started this decade of futility with a strong secondary and teams ran all over us. Etc. etc.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:15 am
DJ Johnny Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 8:52 am
All that matters (or should) from a fans standpoint is what happens when we turn on the TV on Sunday…nobody cares about anything else.
People who mercilessly rib me for being a Raider fan don’t give a red rat’s rip that we are financially sound or not.
Not that I would ever use that as a “comeback”.
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Bingo, I think I grew up with the team wondering “hey I wonder how our financial situation is”
Gruden/McCloughan 2014
March 13th, 2013 at 9:16 am
What have i been saying forever? No reason to keep cp.. we arent close to compeditive…
March 13th, 2013 at 9:16 am
let me know how that “we’ll never win more than 4 games!” line of thinking works out for ya. It’s gonna be a long 6 months bro. Enjoy life and hope for the best. We’ll be fine
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@RRS,
pleasant thought and wishful thinking does not produce “W’s” on Sundays. As for enjoying life, you know I got that one covered. Likewise all the best..
March 13th, 2013 at 9:16 am
Sign DJ Williams to replace McClain.
Find a big ugly NT in rd 3.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:16 am
Visualize the Raiders depth chart on Defense:
CBs Adams (our shutdown corner), Francis (the Robin on the other side), Jones our slot corner
Safety – Branch (He is so good he is going to play alone – afterall that is what he did last year LOL)
LBs – Burris (strong Motor he will need it because there is no one beside him except for practice squad players)
DL – Houston DE and some practice squad guys….
RM has some serious work to do!
March 13th, 2013 at 9:17 am
Charlie Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 4:37 pm
We are looking at 7 wins at best this year but we are cleaning up the garbage contracts that have killed us since 2007.
I think Kelly and DHB are the next to go if they do not take LESS. NOT restructure-take less.
McClain is gone. Just waiting for the right time.
My prediction prior to it being announced. (I know-my plaque is in the mail)
Simple fact is tthat Reggie will only pay for on field production. Guys like Kelly and Palmer sound like they are willing to take less which is why they are still here. Huff and Bey were not and can look elsewhere.
It is all about value. The Raiders have been paying ALL Pro salaries to players performing as backups.
Painful but true.
Young hungry draft picks is what we are going to go with along with a few low tier FA like Adams.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:17 am
Tracy Porter will sign as a FA.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:18 am
Just checking in to see if people are still in a tizzy over losing four mediocre players.
Yup. Still are.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:19 am
Lol. Bill Barnwell has an interesting read on Grantland regarding the 1st day of free agency.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:20 am
Tell me more about how we’re going to the playoffs this yr behind cp3 again mac20 & gdog..
March 13th, 2013 at 9:21 am
guest123 Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 8:50 am
I’m saying we could have gotten at least one of them back. I think Wheeler for sure.
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How much did Wheeler want?
How much did Reggie offer?
What value did Reggie place on Phillip?
All things we DON’T know….
March 13th, 2013 at 9:22 am
Wind
When you have strong enough lines, your DB’s and other niche pieces simply do not need to be Hall of Fame caliber players to be effective.
It is true we need two really good drafts along the line of scrimmage to be competitive but that is where we are headed.
I assure you that Plunkett, Van Eeghan, Hubbard Biletnikoff, Casper would not have been as good without- Upshaw, Shell, Dalby Marvin and Lawrence.
Same on the defensive side of the ball.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:22 am
DMAC Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 9:02 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
Why are so many panic mode?
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?? they dont have any good weed ??
GOOD AFTERNOON NATION
and my GreenParty brothers !!
March 13th, 2013 at 9:23 am
dansby and/or dj williams are both better than wheeler and will be cheaper
alan branch is better than bryant, and will be cheaper.
i liked DHb the most out of the players we lost, probably mostly because i wanted him to succeed here, but we didn’t lose much if you really think about it, nothing that can’t be replaced in FA and the draft, we’ll probably be better at 3 of the positions we “lost” yesterday.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:23 am
How much did Wheeler want?
How much did Reggie offer?
What value did Reggie place on Phillip?
All things we DON’T know….
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Well, we know Wheeler wanted at least 5yr, $26 mil
March 13th, 2013 at 9:25 am
A few teams would have givin us something for bryant & kelly if we did the trade deadline firesale i wanted..
March 13th, 2013 at 9:26 am
“Cleveland also added underrated defensive tackle Desmond Bryant from Oakland, giving him a five-year, $34 million deal ($15 million guaranteed) that will ensure “Desmond Bryant” and “underrated” will never appear in the same sentence again.”
Lol
March 13th, 2013 at 9:26 am
Colts WR Donnie Avery just signed with KC
March 13th, 2013 at 9:28 am
pleasant thought and wishful thinking does not produce “W’s” on Sundays.
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G123,
is there anything we can do about it?
we can talk about it, but what does that accomplish?
you guys get so worked up, when you haven’t even seen the 53 man roster yet. A new fiscally responsible GM is purging players with out of whack contracts from a 4-12 team. this shouldn’t surprise any of you, regardless of who the yet-to-be-named replacements are
March 13th, 2013 at 9:28 am
It is true we need two really good drafts along the line of scrimmage to be competitive but that is where we are headed.
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I think we can get there this year, Charlie.
RT, NT, and 1 OG is all we need. That’s assuming we stick with this 3-4.
4-3. we need a NT, RDE, RT, and OG.
I think we need blue chip guys, which is why I wouldn’t trade down much. Buffalo is about as low as I would go.
If I trade down, I’m taking a NT or OG in rd 1.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:28 am
I can honestly say I heve never felt better about the Raiders since 2002 as I do today.
I have been a fan since 63′ and I know we are headed in the right direction.
We will focus on rebuilding the lines and getting skill guys with later round picks. We will manage the cap responsibly and pick up a YOUNG FA on occasion that will help us.
The days of OVERPAYING FOR MEDIOCRITY ARE OVER IN OAKLAND.
The proud history of Raider football starts with dominating play on the lines. Soemthing we have not had in a decade.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:28 am
Banana
That was an interesting article that puts it into perspective. Refers to Oakland as a ruined husk or something like that.
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9046691/bill-barnwell-first-day-nfl-free-agency
March 13th, 2013 at 9:29 am
dansby and/or dj williams are both better than wheeler and will be cheaper
alan branch is better than bryant, and will be cheaper.
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EGGS ZACK LEE
March 13th, 2013 at 9:29 am
Coye Francies again? What is it with Reggie and slow WRs/DBs?
Reggie better get a hell of a lot better at Dumpster diving this year than last. Willie Smith, Bartell, Spencer, Pat Lee, Tollefson, etc. How many of those guys are even around anymore.
Snorkelup, big fella. You’re going back in.-
March 13th, 2013 at 9:29 am
Huff gone = Addition by subtraction. Does nothing well. Useless.
DHB = Could contribute, but not worth what he was getting paid.
Wheels = Solid player. Best LB on the roster.
Bryant = Size and strength to be a force. Good player if he wants it, won’t surprise me if he fades now that he’s got his $ bonanza.
Three components to ‘rebuilding’.
Identify and eliminate dead weight.
Retain cost effective, existing talent on the roster.
Bring in new talent.
How’s Reggie doing ?
March 13th, 2013 at 9:29 am
Call up ramsies barden fa wr giants.. should be oretty cheap.. dudes huge
March 13th, 2013 at 9:30 am
Sir RaiderDuck, OMS Says:
Just checking in to see if people are still in a tizzy over losing four mediocre players.
Yup. Still are.
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No tizzy here.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:31 am
So we cut/lost some members of the worst D in Raider history and the blog is cr@pping the bed?
Thought wheeler and bryant were two of our best young players but not 60mill worth….
And we knew DHB was getting the axe. Nice kid but not worth that $$$$ either.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:32 am
1248.Marks hair Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 9:29 am
Call up ramsies barden fa wr giants.. should be oretty cheap.. dudes huge
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yes! that’s my boy. went to college with him at CP. he’s can play.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:33 am
Charlie Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 9:22 am
Wind
When you have strong enough lines, your DB’s and other niche pieces simply do not need to be Hall of Fame caliber players to be effective.
It is true we need two really good drafts along the line of scrimmage to be competitive but that is where we are headed.
I assure you that Plunkett, Van Eeghan, Hubbard Biletnikoff, Casper would not have been as good without- Upshaw, Shell, Dalby Marvin and Lawrence.
Same on the defensive side of the ball.
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Yea I get that. I am just saying that with good scouting and coaching you can sometimes pick up good linemen in later rounds as well. Sometimes the can’t miss LT’s are busts as well aka Robert Gallery. I am hoping some team fall is love with Millner and is willing to give us a fair deal to get us more pics. We need a lot of pics because virtually any higher draft pic will get a good shot on this squad the way it is right now.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:33 am
Hill
My prediction is first round best available Oline
Third round DT
Fourth round CB
Best available after that.
If we can get more picks by trading down great.
My concern is that after the first two rounds, expecting an immediate starter is overly optimistic.
It can be done and I hope we find starting talent in the later rounds but the law of averages is against us.
The lack of a first and second round pick last year and the lack of a second round pick this year really hurt us and imo cost us three young starters.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:34 am
1243.. i agree about cleaning house.. wish we did more to trade these guys last yr though.. but my worry is reggies ability to find and identify talent.. so far.. duds
March 13th, 2013 at 9:34 am
We need more draft picks..
March 13th, 2013 at 9:34 am
“Cleveland also added underrated defensive tackle Desmond Bryant from Oakland, giving him a five-year, $34 million deal ($15 million guaranteed) that will ensure “Desmond Bryant” and “underrated” will never appear in the same sentence again.”
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how many players ever go to Cleveland and have success?
especially a guy you’re paying based upon limited playing time and potential, rather than a productive year in/year out 16 game starter?
we’ll probably see Bryant in the Browns cap purge a few years down the road, slicing their own “out of whack” contracts
March 13th, 2013 at 9:34 am
Whats taking place needs to take place…no need for drama…agree..1249, 1250
March 13th, 2013 at 9:36 am
I wanted to draft ramses barden back then but didn’t we draft a guy like last year? Juron…
March 13th, 2013 at 9:38 am
Jim Fassel’s Las Vegas Locos could probably beat Dennis Allen’/Reggie McKenzie’s 2013 Oakland Raiders in a best of 7 series.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:38 am
Had this happened last year their would be a bunch of people complaining that “we just missed the playoffs and were 8/8….what Reggies doing is exactly what he should do..
March 13th, 2013 at 9:38 am
boss01 Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 8:29 am
A bit of glass is half full reasoning for all of you on the ledge:
Wheeler can be replaced easily if we sign the Rock’s nephew today.
We already have DHB’s replacement in either Streater, Criner or a healthy Ford.
Huff can be easily replaced by anyone on GB’s practice squad for 1/3 the asking price. Maybe the Honey Badger can be had in the 3rd round.
Bryant will be replaced with our #3 or if we trade down, best available DT wherever we land.
That still leaves Kelly, Seymour & Slo to replace and I have no clue how or where they can be replaced from.
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thank you sir! all this b1tching and moaning is hilarious. this was going to happen. the underachievers and the players that think they’re god’s gift are gone.
all except seymour TK and slo.
slo should be replaced by Dansby. seymour replaced by star most likely.. des is already replaced by Houston or a heavier Shaughnessy(he’s meant to play inside as a DT IMO) and we will stack more DE’s in the draft or in FA.
i’m not too worried yet. if BigMac fails to do anything i listed above, then Clowney here we come!
March 13th, 2013 at 9:38 am
Three components to ‘rebuilding’.
Identify and eliminate dead weight.
Retain cost effective, existing talent on the roster.
Bring in new talent.
How’s Reggie doing ?
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Jury is still out with me. He did not have much of chance last year with cap and lack of draft pics. I thought he brought in enough (to compensate for our personell loses) to get us 6-7 wins but Knapp’s I only teach what I know ways cost us a few games. He has a huge challenge going ahead. 8 defensive starters, 4 offensive starters plus depth to fashion a squad (and we may lose a couple more on offense and Kelly on def is likely). So many new faces will also test the coaching staff.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:38 am
I don’t think anyone has a problem with the cuts, or even with trying to match what Cleveland paid Bryant. But it’s the overall inactivity by Reggie who now has cap space and can increase it by cutting Kelly, who has NO TRADE VALUE.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:38 am
NY Jest RB Shonn Green to the Titans according to sources.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:39 am
Wind
See my 1253 post to Hill. I know you are knowledgable about the game and value line play.
In my opinion we will never be a consistently, strong, winning franchise building our lines with low round draft picks or free agents.
Taken to another extreme, we will not be able to beat our competition when they consistently use high picks to build this part of their team.
These are typically 270-320 pound athletes that need to have the agility and quickness of college level skill players. We are not likely to find premier or at least very good lineman in the fifth to seventh round or packing out at Wal Mart THAT ARE BETTER THAN WHAT OTHER NFL TEAMS HAVE.
The hammerings we have taken against playoff teams over the last ten years (9-51 losing by an average score of 30-13 with seven different coaching staffs) shows that we can not compete on the line of scrimmage.
We need to build OUR CORE through the draft and expend enough high round draft picks on lineman to ensure superior line play. The way the Raiders used to do it. You build the core of your team through the draft especially with the rookie cap in place. You use FA’s for niche pieces to buy time or plug a hole.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:39 am
Id try to trade way back with sf. Take like 6 picks off sf so they can grab milliner. Trade cp, dmac and kelly for a few more.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:39 am
fingers Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 9:38 am
Had this happened last year their would be a bunch of people complaining that “we just missed the playoffs and were 8/8….what Reggies doing is exactly what he should do..
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The cuts are fine, what Reggie NEEDS TO DO is start signing some players.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:40 am
Still need a pass rusher and some cb’s…better not wait too long…
March 13th, 2013 at 9:40 am
I am not that upset about the players leaving, but it is the lack of players coming in, like not even to sign but on a reported “visit”.
I am sure they will bring in some FA’s, and if they can land James Harrion or some other cheap, chip-on-their shoulder vets it could work well.
And a glass half full perspective? I watched Andrew Luck band-aid a horrendous roster last year to 10-6 or whatever they were.
Draft Geno
March 13th, 2013 at 9:40 am
Jim Fassel’s Las Vegas Locos could probably beat Dennis Allen’/Reggie McKenzie’s 2013 Oakland Raiders in a best of 7 series.
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Jim Fassel is a he11 of a coach. I could see them winning 2 outta 3.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:40 am
People have been screaming for us to cut the ’scholarship’ guys for years, and then we actually go ahead and do it, and it’s immediately FIRE REGGIE he is an idiot… So annoying. Some of you guys act as if armageddon is upon us because we cut Huff and DHB. OR because we didn’t cut SLo yet. Who cares if we cut Slo today or in June. It doesn’t affect the team one way or another when we cut him, so why be angry?
People want to hang Reg for not resigning Wheeler and Dez, but would have been at his door with pitchforks and torches if we gave those guys the money they got on the FA market.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:41 am
I’ve been on record as saying before that we could entirely replace every player on our defense w/ Alabama’s for instance and they would do as good…if not better.
Seeing as we are talking worst D in franchise history, how bad can it really be if we lose even the “stars” of that D?
I’m feeling better about losing Wheeler and Bryant and think they can be fairly easily replaced..cheaper too, but I’m not buying this attitude that we should never pay big money. This is the NFL and sometimes you MUST do that if you wanna compete.
We can’t just refuse to give anybody big money contracts. You MUST take risks now and then. No way to be good and play entirely safe.
If there’s a guy out there (Pollard maybe) that can significantly help than go get him.
I’m just using him as example.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:42 am
The_Judge37 Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 9:38 am
I don’t think anyone has a problem with the cuts, or even with trying to match what Cleveland paid Bryant. But it’s the overall inactivity by Reggie who now has cap space and can increase it by cutting Kelly, who has NO TRADE VALUE.
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Serously this is the wrong time to be buying. It is like going to get a room in Western ND during drilling season right now. My guess is he will wait a week before doing much more than resigning some of our players that just figured out they are not going to get a multi year deal some place else so why not stay here.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:42 am
Charlie,
You always say that FA are “free for a reason”.
So I am curious to your take on why some of these FA linmean that you were in here touting 2 months ago during the playoffs(Andre Smith, Vollmer, McKinnie, etc) aren’t being retained by their teams?
March 13th, 2013 at 9:42 am
Xraider
Seymour, Kelly and Slo could be replaced with traffic cones.
They were pathetic check cashers. Seymour did not even practice let alone play.
Just three more examples of overpaid poor performers.
Those three can easily be replaced for alot less money.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:43 am
A GM thats manages only to make popular decisions wont be a GM long… What were seeing is the business end of football…not popular but needed ..
March 13th, 2013 at 9:43 am
Las Vegas “Locos”? Does that translate to Las Vegas “Crazy Guys”?
If so…kind of a cool name.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:44 am
Here’s hoping we pick up Bernard Pollard cut by the Ravens. Dude is a tackling machine and a personal Patriot destroyer. He’s a whole lot cheaper than Huff for sure.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:44 am
didn’t know quentin jammer was available. I like the way he plays. the facvt no one is talking about him could mean he will be cheap
March 13th, 2013 at 9:44 am
The salary-cap is like your eating habits.
You can’t just eat chicken wings and fries everyday, eventually you get the health bill.
But, after eating fish and salad for a week, a chicken box won’t kill you.
Reggie is eating strictly cabbage at this stage, time to call wingstop and binge for a day.
We will be fine.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:45 am
Judge37,
Actually, a lot of people have a problem with Reggie not retaining Bryant.
A lot of fans assume he’s not good because the D overall stunk. It’s simply not the case. He’s a great young d lineman who was sought after by at least 6 or 7 teams including the Pats and 49ers.
But the failure runs much deeper than not matching the Browns offer. Bryant should’ve been locked up with a contract extension a while ago. Bottom line: Reggie gets an F for his performance so far.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:45 am
JFB
Because those teams have adequtae repalcements for less money. Age and injury history are also major factors.
It is not an accident our three best lineman are all young. (Veld, Wiz and Houston).
Talent x Durability x work ethic x knowledge = productivity
When one of the variables on the left equals 0, productivity equals 0. (See Seymour)
The rookie cap offers teams much more protection for greater value. Meaning that the salary paid is more in line with the productivity that you get. Yes, the knowledge part of the equation is low with rookies but if the other three parts are in place you can have a long, productive career.
Free agents are usually free for a reason. Either their salary demands are not consistent with their body of past work or there is a low evaluation of one of the variables on the left side of the above equation by the present employer.
A guy like Gannon was a good pick up because the Chiefs had a surplus that year at QB and made the wrong choice keeping Grbac. Gannon also had not played much so his durability was good even at a relatively advanced age. Those situations are rare!
Romo. Rice and Woodson also worked out well for a VERY SHORT TIME FRAME.
You can only afford to build your core through the draft. You can pick up some niche pieces in the FA market but it needs to be done carefully and sparingly.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:45 am
People have been screaming for us to cut the ’scholarship’ guys for years, and then we actually go ahead and do it, and it’s immediately FIRE REGGIE he is an idiot… So annoying.
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Sorry to annoy you. So what personnel moves has REGGIE done that impress you? What key free agent has he signed to make us better? What coaches has he brought in that have proven to be long term hires? What draft picks has he claimed that are gems or even solid starters?
March 13th, 2013 at 9:46 am
1278.aig-raiders Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 9:44 am
Here’s hoping we pick up Bernard Pollard cut by the Ravens. Dude is a tackling machine and a personal Patriot destroyer. He’s a whole lot cheaper than Huff for sure.
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pollard is a good player but we don’t need that type of safty right now we needa deep ball playing, ball hawking safety like ed reed was for the ravens. I’m nt saying we got out and get reed, although he is my favorit eplayer so i would be all for it, but we need a player like that. branch plays in the box just fine.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:46 am
1960AutumnWind Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 9:42 am
The_Judge37 Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 9:38 am
I don’t think anyone has a problem with the cuts, or even with trying to match what Cleveland paid Bryant. But it’s the overall inactivity by Reggie who now has cap space and can increase it by cutting Kelly, who has NO TRADE VALUE.
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Serously this is the wrong time to be buying. It is like going to get a room in Western ND during drilling season right now. My guess is he will wait a week before doing much more than resigning some of our players that just figured out they are not going to get a multi year deal some place else so why not stay here.
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The ND reference is falling on deaf ears, but actually now is the time to snag a CB. With all the young guys and veterans out there, snatch up one while they might not have too much interest comming in instead of waiting for what’s left over.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:46 am
Good day for reggie but honestly, anybody can make cuts. Its about great picks, trades and fa signings as well.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:46 am
Morning/Afternoon, P-man, Charlie, Lofty One, RR, 1960, Fingers, R99, CinNY, Nation all!
Sunny right now in Happy Valley, snow flurries a little while ago, probably more later. Weather forecast: If you don’t like the weather, wait a minute!
So what the $%&$%&$%^*^% is up with the Raiders! They close all the pancake-serving restaurants in Oakland until we gets some trades, signings, big cuts, etc. (not just what we’ve had so far)!
March 13th, 2013 at 9:46 am
NGRaiderfan Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 9:44 am
didn’t know quentin jammer was available. I like the way he plays. the facvt no one is talking about him could mean he will be cheap
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physical, but can’t cover worth a schit
March 13th, 2013 at 9:47 am
Because those teams have adequtae repalcements for less money.
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So basically they are overpaid and overrated?
You could have saved us all a lot of time by saying so during the postseason.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:48 am
1280.Just Fire Baby Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 9:44 am
The salary-cap is like your eating habits.
You can’t just eat chicken wings and fries everyday, eventually you get the health bill.
But, after eating fish and salad for a week, a chicken box won’t kill you.
Reggie is eating strictly cabbage at this stage, time to call wingstop and binge for a day.
We will be fine.
Better than cheeseburgers and cole slaw from KFC, and cold be it!
March 13th, 2013 at 9:48 am
pollard is a good player but we don’t need that type of safty right now we needa deep ball playing, ball hawking safety like ed reed was for the ravens. I’m nt saying we got out and get reed, although he is my favorit eplayer so i would be all for it, but we need a player like that. branch plays in the box just fine.
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come on man, i always here these “we need an ed reed type” or such references. ed reed is arguably the best fs ever
March 13th, 2013 at 9:48 am
Like Hue said after being fired… Reggie is gonna. Gut the place…
March 13th, 2013 at 9:48 am
NGRaider,
Pollard or Wilson would be an instant upgrade over the overpaid Huff. We’re not getting Reed or CWood sicne they want to play for contenders. Wished we could have cut Branch too but that’s not possible.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:48 am
Chris in NY Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 9:45 am
Judge37,
Actually, a lot of people have a problem with Reggie not retaining Bryant.
A lot of fans assume he’s not good because the D overall stunk. It’s simply not the case. He’s a great young d lineman who was sought after by at least 6 or 7 teams including the Pats and 49ers.
But the failure runs much deeper than not matching the Browns offer. Bryant should’ve been locked up with a contract extension a while ago. Bottom line: Reggie gets an F for his performance so far.
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I agree with you on everything Bryant, he’s good and should’ve been locked up after 2011 season. But it’s hard to argue with the Offer he got from Cleveland, so i’m only concerned now with players comming in
March 13th, 2013 at 9:48 am
1279. Big upgrade over francies
March 13th, 2013 at 9:48 am
i want all the reggie lovers to stand up proud and loud so i can remember their names as we enter a 1 win season…
March 13th, 2013 at 9:49 am
this pretty much sums up y we are in the shape we are in right now:
“Lack of first-round impact hurts Oakland: The Raiders cut a pair of former first-round picks, safety Michael Huff (2006) and receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey (2009), on Tuesday; linebacker Rolando McClain (2010) is expected to be cut soon. That would leave just running back Darren McFadden (2008) and kicker Sebastian Janikowski (2000) as the only Raiders first-round picks on the roster. That is not the way to build a team. The Raiders have the No. 3 pick in April’s draft. They must get this one correct. Right now, I’d say the top options there are either Florida defensive tackle Sharrif Floyd or Alabama cornerback Dee Milliner.”
March 13th, 2013 at 9:49 am
Even this purge to get rid of outta wack contracts, increase dead money and get way under the cap is a failure. He could have gotten rid of Huff a year ago and it would have been cheaper. He could have held on to Branch’s tender. He could have cut Seymour. An entire year wasted if all he wanted to do was slash and burn. Why didn’t he just come out and say so?
March 13th, 2013 at 9:49 am
Marks hair Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 9:20 am
Tell me more about how we’re going to the playoffs this yr behind cp3 again mac20 & gdog..
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Why are you trying to fan this fire?
That is over. Its obvious Reggie is throwing in the towel, so why shouldn’t I?
CP3 should go to a team where they are trying to achieve the playoffs THIS season, not in 2015.
Duh.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:50 am
Guys, remember when Al used to be quiet until day 2, 3, hell even a week later, or none at all! Then one year he went crazy! Same reaction! Why is he not doing anything, to wtf is he doing?
March 13th, 2013 at 9:50 am
My prediction is first round best available Oline
Third round DT
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Depends if Fisher is there, I’d say.
No way you can look past Veldheer’s impending FA next year with what took place yesterday. McKenzie is not breaking the bank for Veldheer.
If we trade down, we can take one of the 2 best OGs.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:51 am
Why didn’t he just come out and say so?
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When you look at the 53% ownership of the Raiders, it is a bunch of hedge fund and private equity guys.
These guys are running the show now that Al is gone, IMO.
“Saying so” is bad for the bottom line.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:51 am
Al_is_theraiders Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 9:48 am
i want all the reggie lovers to stand up proud and loud so i can remember their names as we enter a 1 win season…
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Sort of like you the last 10 years and especially the 2006 season.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:51 am
Wassup AIG,
You still swingin’ em?
March 13th, 2013 at 9:51 am
Pollard would be nice but I doubt fat boy makes it happen
March 13th, 2013 at 9:52 am
Does anyone think Reggie will have enoug sense to extend guys like Veldheer and Houston before they hit free agency?
He certainly failed by giving Wheeler a oneyear deal and letting Bryant walk. Maybe he’ll learn GM 101 the hard way and figure that out this time.-
March 13th, 2013 at 9:52 am
1298.guest123 Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 9:49 am
Even this purge to get rid of outta wack contracts, increase dead money and get way under the cap is a failure. He could have gotten rid of Huff a year ago and it would have been cheaper. He could have held on to Branch’s tender. He could have cut Seymour. An entire year wasted if all he wanted to do was slash and burn. Why didn’t he just come out and say so?
My guess is that he felt they could have given us a good run to the playoffs last year! Or…maybe it wasn’t frugile to cut anyone last year!
March 13th, 2013 at 9:52 am
NGRaider,
IMHO, never take a corner that high. When Nnamdi was in his prime and QB refused to go at him, we still stunk on the D. We need an impact Dlineman or Olineman at that position.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:52 am
guest123 Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 9:49 am
Even this purge to get rid of outta wack contracts, increase dead money and get way under the cap is a failure. He could have gotten rid of Huff a year ago and it would have been cheaper. He could have held on to Branch’s tender. He could have cut Seymour. An entire year wasted if all he wanted to do was slash and burn. Why didn’t he just come out and say so?
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the guy was thinking we were 8 and 8 a couple tweeks here and there and playoffs and it didn’t work out. schit happens, we’ve sucked for years now it’s rebuild mode
March 13th, 2013 at 9:52 am
I cant jump on the reggie love train yet. The only thing he has done right is making a few obvious cuts.. bfd.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:53 am
1293.aig-raiders Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 9:48 am
NGRaider,
Pollard or Wilson would be an instant upgrade over the overpaid Huff. We’re not getting Reed or CWood sicne they want to play for contenders. Wished we could have cut Branch too but that’s not possible.
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they woud be upgrades overall, but we still wouldn’t have a safety that can cover the pass or cover the deep part of the field. which is what we need, especially withmost teams going to more of a passing game and us not having any elite corner talent or pass rush. At this point, it is a need in my opinion. probably going to have to find it in the draft, honestly.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:53 am
RM right now is probably looking hard at Houston, Wiz and Veldeer and DMac for extension. I don’t see him engaging to much in FA yet except with some our our own.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:53 am
wearing nothing but high heels and an Oakland Raider helmet.
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ROFLMBAO….
March 13th, 2013 at 9:54 am
I did answer your questions Charlie, I said McCloughan is the the attractive candidate that would come here…Thanks for the list of coach’s.
Here’s some other ones
Josh McDaniels
11-17(8-8 after he inherited an 8-8 team, then 3-9 before getting fired)
Think the donkeys regret canning him?
Wade Phillips
16-16(9-7 his 1st year with a playoff team)
hired Shannahan after he gave them .500 football
Dick Lebeau
6-10, 2-14 in full seasons,
think they regret hiring Marvin Lewis.
The fruitywhiners sh!tcanned Nolan & Singletary before the year was up before getting Harbaugh.
The seahags cut Mora loose after one year to get Carroll.
Hell, we dumped Bugel to get Gruden.
Think any of these teams cared what it looked like?! No, they cared about winning football games. I wish our team did.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:54 am
Chris in NY Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 9:52 am
Does anyone think Reggie will have enoug sense to extend guys like Veldheer and Houston before they hit free agency?
He certainly failed by giving Wheeler a oneyear deal and letting Bryant walk. Maybe he’ll learn GM 101 the hard way and figure that out this time.-
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wheeler and bryant didn’t do schit 2 years ago, why would he sign them to long term deals?
March 13th, 2013 at 9:55 am
hmm stevie johnson wants dhb to be a bill huh?
“Tell DHB come be a Bill. He was stepping into that role of playmaker for his team. With me opposite him the game will be simplified a ton so he can ball out. Not that I think he needs that wide receiver opposite him anymore, but given the situation I think it’ll benefit us all.”
The issue there is who throws the ball? I think I would attempt to reunite jc and dhb in buffalo and draft ej manual to groom.
perhaps they could recapture the magic after all DHB was at his best under the leadership of jc.
this will be interesting watching how dhb’s career will go from here.
In my opinion the raiders let go of the wrong guy possibly without even attempting to restructure him.
I think you know who the first person i would have dumped, the impostor raider # 3
March 13th, 2013 at 9:55 am
Hey Hill,
I only get out once in a great while. We’re back in NorCal and busy with helping wife’s practice along with remodeling/maintaning our new home out in the country. But the game is a whole lot better now that I play less and apply less bad habits.
Damn twitter. NFL FA + this blog + Twitter make for a very dizzying recipe. How you been?
March 13th, 2013 at 9:55 am
When you look at the 53% ownership of the Raiders, it is a bunch of hedge fund and private equity guys.
These guys are running the show now that Al is gone, IMO.
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I really don’t believe those pencilnecks give a damn about running the show in Oakland. All they care about is ROI. Hard to believe the board was impressed with the idea of tarping Mt Davis. I’m sure that they are keeping a close watch of the season ticket base right about now.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:55 am
bcz24 Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 9:40 am
People have been screaming for us to cut the ’scholarship’ guys for years, and then we actually go ahead and do it, and it’s immediately FIRE REGGIE he is an idiot… So annoying.
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So Wheeler and Bryant are scholarship players now?
Okee dokeee… keep chugging the Reggie Koolade…
March 13th, 2013 at 9:56 am
1308.aig-raiders Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 9:52 am
NGRaider,
IMHO, never take a corner that high. When Nnamdi was in his prime and QB refused to go at him, we still stunk on the D. We need an impact Dlineman or Olineman at that position.
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I was quoting something on espn. It was more about our previous first round picks and how we have basically got nothing to show for them than the last bit at the end. i want to trade down or get the best pass rusher available. dee millner is coo but i don’t think he is revis or anything. Bama DB’s haven’t panned out that well in the nfl that I knoow of.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:56 am
Sign James Harrison, draft an nt, get some cheap fa lbs next week and BAM new D.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:56 am
1298.. EXACTLY! I said it over and over last year we are wasting this year slash and burn fire sale now now now! Wasted yr..
March 13th, 2013 at 9:56 am
inonewordraider Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 9:52 am
guest123 Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 9:49 am
Even this purge to get rid of outta wack contracts, increase dead money and get way under the cap is a failure. He could have gotten rid of Huff a year ago and it would have been cheaper. He could have held on to Branch’s tender. He could have cut Seymour. An entire year wasted if all he wanted to do was slash and burn. Why didn’t he just come out and say so?
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the guy was thinking we were 8 and 8 a couple tweeks here and there and playoffs and it didn’t work out. schit happens, we’ve sucked for years now it’s rebuild mode
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If you believe what RM said – he actually said that 2012 was an evaluation year to see what we really had. That is why he did not go for the all out fire sale. Now he knows. Apparently they did not like Huff at all in coverage – at least that is what I hope is going on.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:56 am
1960 is one…
March 13th, 2013 at 9:57 am
Guest123 Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 9:45 am
People have been screaming for us to cut the ’scholarship’ guys for years, and then we actually go ahead and do it, and it’s immediately FIRE REGGIE he is an idiot… So annoying.
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Sorry to annoy you. So what personnel moves has REGGIE done that impress you? What key free agent has he signed to make us better? What coaches has he brought in that have proven to be long term hires? What draft picks has he claimed that are gems or even solid starters?
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That’s the point they constantly miss when saying “We’re building this the right way”
March 13th, 2013 at 9:57 am
A lot of fans assume he’s not good because the D overall stunk.
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I haven’t seen one person say Bryant wasn’t a good player, Chris.
C’mon, man.
We just don’t know that he was worth 30 million.
I know FOR SURE that Wheeler wasn’t. I ragged on him last year like you ragged on 55. Just because Wheeler’s hair was flying around doesn’t mean he was impactful AT ALL. At least Burris was a rookie.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:57 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 9:55 am
hmm stevie johnson wants dhb to be a bill huh?
“Tell DHB come be a Bill. He was stepping into that role of playmaker for his team. With me opposite him the game will be simplified a ton so he can ball out. Not that I think he needs that wide receiver opposite him anymore, but given the situation I think it’ll benefit us all.”
The issue there is who throws the ball? I think I would attempt to reunite jc and dhb in buffalo and draft ej manual to groom.
perhaps they could recapture the magic after all DHB was at his best under the leadership of jc.
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go root for the bills, this is a raider blog
March 13th, 2013 at 9:58 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 9:22 am
DMAC Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 9:02 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
Why are so many panic mode?
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?? they dont have any good weed ??
GOOD AFTERNOON NATION
and my GreenParty brothers !!
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in the words of the GreenParty Prez.
well then fuk you guy
on this sunny day in Southern Md !!
March 13th, 2013 at 9:58 am
So Wheeler and Bryant are scholarship players now?
Okee dokeee… keep chugging the Reggie Koolade…
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No one is saying that but some of us do not think they are worth 35 million and 26 million each.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:58 am
Vikings, Buccaneers and Cardinals have all shown some interest in Matt Cassel
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/13/chiefs-trying-to-trade-matt-cassel-may-cut-him-today-if-they-cant/
Interesting!
March 13th, 2013 at 9:58 am
Bryant is a servicable back up DT. What made him so special? Playing alongside Kelly can make anyone look good. He is hardly a difference maker.
I like Wheeler but why did he leave Indy?? Same reason he left Oakland. He was aking too much relative to what his ON FIELD PERFORMANCE SUGGESTS HE IS WORTH.
Remember we were a 4-12 team with a payroll $5 million over the cap at season’s end.
That is ridiculous. With player performance like that we should have been $30 million UNDER the cap.
I assure you we were not 4-12 because of Greg Knapp.
The players we had were not very good.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:58 am
Predicting that we were not going to keep wheels and bryant was way too easy…
March 13th, 2013 at 9:59 am
Wheeler got cashed the fk out. So did Bryant.
Wheeler was a pretty good at rushing the QB, but dude wasn’t to good against the pass.
Bryant is pretty solid, but the schit stains overpayed.
Heard James Anderson was let go by the Panthers.
This should be a guy Reg targets.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:59 am
The fact is, building through the draft is about the only way to go, because players can’t tell us to screw off like they can in FA.
It may be Reggie’s top priority to get Veldheer extended.
And he may say, screw your hippy azz state (he is a massive right-winger).
The team stinks, taxes are super-high (agents should their client after tax dollars on their contracts) and players won’t sign here unless we pay them way more.
We have absolutely nothing to sell FA’s on. Great weather? It’s not bad in Miami either. Or SF. Or plenty of other places.
We need a face of the franchise.
Enter, Geno Smith
March 13th, 2013 at 9:59 am
Best news is that Bills are in the Geno Smith market now. We can land a couple of picks and Fred Jackson. Then trade Dmac for another couple of picks.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:59 am
NGRaider,
When I think of a safety, I think of a menacing and hard hitting guy that scares people back there. I just love Pollard for the way he plays the game and go all out. We havent seen a tackling machine back there in a long while. You prob want both but I dont think we can afford the best of the best out there.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:59 am
I only get out once in a great while.
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Yeah, me too.
I’m terrile now. Played twice this year, haven’t broken 90. Got out Sunday and shot 41 51, lol.
Having more fun with the 3 and 7 year old and working my arsse off these days.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:59 am
perhaps the jest would be a good fit for dhb they need some speed.
I think one great place for him to go is the washington redskins.
The reverses and bubble screen game, along with the vertical element would be very very very difficult to defend. Those are what DHB does best as well. he and garcon would be a nightmare and RGIII is exactly the kind of qb that can get him the ball.
The skins are in desperate need for speed and toughness, garcon was nicked up and missed a good portion of the season. moss is old, morgan and hankerson are slow and wildly inconsistent.
Snyder better get on the horn with condon today.
March 13th, 2013 at 9:59 am
Hill
See my 1331 post.
Absolutely correct.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:00 am
1316.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 9:55 am
hmm stevie johnson wants dhb to be a bill huh?
“Tell DHB come be a Bill. He was stepping into that role of playmaker for his team. With me opposite him the game will be simplified a ton so he can ball out. Not that I think he needs that wide receiver opposite him anymore, but given the situation I think it’ll benefit us all.”
The issue there is who throws the ball? I think I would attempt to reunite jc and dhb in buffalo and draft ej manual to groom.
perhaps they could recapture the magic after all DHB was at his best under the leadership of jc.
this will be interesting watching how dhb’s career will go from here.
In my opinion the raiders let go of the wrong guy possibly without even attempting to restructure him.
I think you know who the first person i would have dumped, the impostor raider # 3
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I think the bengals are gonna go after dhb. they have been looking for a good #2 behind aj green. that would be a pretty scary wr group. all over 6′3 215 with some speed.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:00 am
How you been?
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Now back to our Hatfield and McCoy routine, lol.
Sign Glo to back up Pryor!
March 13th, 2013 at 10:01 am
JFB,
You a Geno fan huh? I dont see anythign special in him. Very interesting. Did Mistic hijack your handle?
March 13th, 2013 at 10:01 am
Dakota Says:
March 12th, 2013 at 10:15 pm
Okay, lots of good players still out there. The question is, will Reggie just sit on the cap space, or will we try and field a decent team while we rebuild through the draft?
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Looks like he’s going to do it through the draft. Which means he will try to trade down and obtain more pics. Which means the front office has concluded that this is going to be a 2-3 year long process just to be competitive. Here in Cleveland they’ve been aggressive in FA because the thinking is the defense is very close to playoff caliber.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:01 am
Stop looking for the “big FA” flash…The GM is not going to provide you with a bountiful FA banquet.
We may add a piece here there however, we will NOT spend big money on ANY FA including our own.
The future of the NATION build will be done through the draft.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:01 am
Gruden doesnt want this stain on his resume. but he might come back after we turn the roster around and say goodbye to titty monky
March 13th, 2013 at 10:01 am
Jim Fassel’s Las Vegas Locos could probably beat Dennis Allen’/Reggie McKenzie’s 2013 Oakland Raiders in a best of 7 series.
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I’m not going to hang Regina just yet. Have strong doubts about the guy. Not optimistic, but think it’s a bit premature to rule out the possibility he might make some prudent FA moves and draft well.
Tits Allen, on the other hand, is a lost cause.
Given a squad of equal talent, Fassel beats Tits every time.
Sparano will be interim HC before the 2013 campaign ends.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:02 am
Yeah mioptic1 the bills are going to rebuild with soup and heyward bey. That’s almost as funny as the “poor Jamayonnaise” talk…
March 13th, 2013 at 10:02 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 9:59 am
perhaps the jest would be a good fit for dhb they need some speed.
I think one great place for him to go is the washington redskins.
The reverses and bubble screen game, along with the vertical element would be very very very difficult to defend. Those are what DHB does best as well. he and garcon would be a nightmare and RGIII is exactly the kind of qb that can get him the ball.
The skins are in desperate need for speed and toughness, garcon was nicked up and missed a good portion of the season. moss is old, morgan and hankerson are slow and wildly inconsistent.
Snyder better get on the horn with condon today.
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perhaps you should start your own blog were you can talk about ej manuel and jason campbell and dhb all day long, we don’t wanna hear about it, we’re talking Raiders
March 13th, 2013 at 10:02 am
DHB’s future NFL career hinges on his ability to cover punts.
He is now in the Derek Hagan’s of the NFL world.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:03 am
inonewordraider Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 9:57 am
go root for the bills, this is a raider blog
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are you a security guard for the blog?
no? Then shut the fugg up.
i dont give a rats azz about what team the blog titled i post what i want when i want.
You have a problem with DHB that is on you, i will watch him no matter where he plays,
team logos dont mean shid to me, im not getting a dime from them
March 13th, 2013 at 10:03 am
Re S position …
Why not resign Mitchell and let him have a go at SS?
Play Branch at FS.
I also think Ross is in the mix for S.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:03 am
Thec
What up playuh?
March 13th, 2013 at 10:04 am
DJ Johnny Says:
Las Vegas “Locos”? Does that translate to Las Vegas “Crazy Guys”?
If so…kind of a cool name.
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Las Vegas means ‘the meadows’. Don’t know what the crazy guys are doing in the meadows, but a football field is kind of a meadow.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:04 am
We need a face of the franchise.
Enter, Geno Smith
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No way man…I would rather wait until next year…Better class of QB’s to chose from.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:04 am
I only get out once in a great while.
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I said screw it and joined a softball league.
Tired of shooting the same score for a decade.
Got married, put on 35 pounds, and now am jacking HR’s, lol.
CAn’t do that in Golf.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:04 am
JLofty Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:02 am
Yeah mioptic1 the bills are going to rebuild with soup and heyward bey. That’s almost as funny as the “poor Jamayonnaise” talk…
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i didnt say they would
still think carson is elite?
lol gtfoh
March 13th, 2013 at 10:04 am
Huff could’ve been restructured and the cap savings would have been more than enough to cover Brant’s cap hit. Basically, we could have retained Huff and Bryant and been in the same cap situation we’re in right now, only with those two players on board.
I hear we could sign Kevin Boss though. That makes sense. Nothing like Coye Francies and an average, extremely concussion prone TE to tell the world you’re going to be a force to reckon with. LMAO.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:04 am
All I can say is that Reggie better have a good replacement in mind for Bryant. Teams can not just let young talent that they have been developing themselves walk away that easily. Reggie is the so-called “expert”. He’s the one that gets paid millions to make these decisions. Well, right now, in my “non-GM” mind, I’m having a little trouble with the Bryant situation. If he replaces him with someone better, I’ll gladly shut up and give Reggie his credit, but as it stands, I’m not impressed.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:05 am
Al the Al Davis Apologist
Frankly you have zero credibility with me. You just blame Reggie for everyting and do not acknowledge how badly AD destroyed this franchise over the last 20 years and especially the last 10. If that makes me a RM apologist (even when I just posted the jury is still out with me) then so be it. Because in your mind anyone that does not kiss AD’s ring and say how great it all was is apparently a RM apologist. Sometimes I think you and Priest want him to fail to prove how glorious AD was.
I thank AD for many childhood memories that go all the way back to 1965 but the last two decades execpt for Gruden years sucked!
March 13th, 2013 at 10:05 am
Wind
You are correct again.
As I have said too many on this blog delude themselves thinking that if we only had good coaches we would be Super Bowl Bound.
Not true. Our players were bad and sometimes really bad but paid like All pros.
Sapp, Warren, Wilson, Newberry, Harris, Sands, Walker, Wilson, Brown etc etc etc. Pathetic.
It’s going to be structured around the personnel part and getting good players,” Madden said. “It’s all about players. We can talk about this thing and that thing and having good cheerleaders and all that. That’s all nice but you have to have players. If you have players, you’re probably going to win. If you don’t have players, you’re not going to win. … They’re going to go out and get the best players, and if they don’t have them, then they’re going to keep trying until they get them.”
“Vic Tafur, the Raiders beat writer for the San Francisco Chronicle sat down with Madden today and the great one shared his opinion on Dennis Allen’s first year as the head coach of the Raiders. While Madden did not go into great detail, breaking down how Allen’s first season went, what he did say was very telling. Basically, Madden stated that Allen was coaching a team that simply did not have enough talent on it to do much better than the 4-12 record the first year head coach put up.
Now, it is no surprise to hear that the Raiders lacked talent this past season, anyone who watched the games could see it. What is interesting about Madden’s comments is that he did not think there was much hope for the Raiders to have fared better than they did in 2012. That seems to go along with what a lot of people are saying, that Allen should get a pass on his first season because he had so little talent to work with.”
“He’s got a ways to go. He was playing the game without a full deck. To be honest, they don’t have enough players. The cupboard was pretty bare. It would have been tough to do much more than what they did.
“If he’s going to do well, they gotta get a lot more … some teams need a quarterback or a running back, or a pass rusher … The Raiders need a whole barrel of guys.”-madden
March 13th, 2013 at 10:05 am
The can’t throw qb to the can’t catch wr….
March 13th, 2013 at 10:05 am
Marks hair Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 9:56 am
1298.. EXACTLY! I said it over and over last year we are wasting this year slash and burn fire sale now now now! Wasted yr..
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You were right! Knowing now that Reggie was going to wait a year to purge salaries, it would have been perfectly clear last year.
Of course now I am REALLY trying to figure out Brisiel.
Whats next, he restructures McF’s contract??? This off-season is nothing but confusion it seems. Maybe thats why everybody is bagging on Reggie, huh?
March 13th, 2013 at 10:06 am
J Hill Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:03 am
Re S position …
Why not resign Mitchell and let him have a go at SS?
Play Branch at FS.
I also think Ross is in the mix for S.
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J Heezy
I don’t want to see MM starting at SS, but I always wondered what Tyvon would look like at FS.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:06 am
Sign Glo to back up Pryor!
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Oh pls no. RM will never do it. He knows better than that. Most GMs in the league dont see value in JC. He looked horrible last year in Chi. If we cut CP, then RM has committed to TP. That means my hunch says VY will be the back up.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:06 am
guest123 Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 9:49 am
Even this purge to get rid of outta wack contracts,[snip]
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The purge everyone should pay attention to is Reggie’s coming pancake purge. That buttplug ain’t gonna last forever and the monkey they have trained to pull it out is having second thoughts.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:06 am
inonewordraider Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:02 am
perhaps you should start your own blog were you can talk about ej manuel and jason campbell and dhb all day long, we don’t wanna hear about it, we’re talking Raiders
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only and idiot attempts to speak for others
it beats talking about your failed hero palmer, how many ways can we say he sucks?
March 13th, 2013 at 10:06 am
JFB,
You a Geno fan huh? I dont see anythign special in him. Very interesting.
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I think he is a great kid, can sell well to the masses and players, and has great accuracy in intermediate throws.
We can iron out the rest later.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:06 am
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are you a security guard for the blog?
no? Then shut the fugg up.
i dont give a rats azz about what team the blog titled i post what i want when i want.
You have a problem with DHB that is on you, i will watch him no matter where he plays,
team logos dont mean shid to me, im not getting a dime from them
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you shut the fugg up dumb fu#k, no one cares that your on dhb ej manuel jason campbell troy smith and joe webbs nutsa#k. you can’t stop talking about these non raiders.
once again this is a raiders blog, we talk about things pertaining to the raiders if you wanna talk about the buffalo bills or washington redskins go to those blogs punk a#s erkel actin bit#h
March 13th, 2013 at 10:07 am
dang, even backup QB’s are hot right now
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/13/panthers-expected-to-keep-derek-anderson/
March 13th, 2013 at 10:07 am
Confirmed Vince Young getting a workout with raiders
March 13th, 2013 at 10:07 am
DMAC Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:03 am
Thec
What up playuh?
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whats good D? Any new slaps you got uploaded?
March 13th, 2013 at 10:07 am
I dont realy get brisel or branchs deals either..
March 13th, 2013 at 10:07 am
bcz24 Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 9:40 am
People have been screaming for us to cut the ’scholarship’ guys for years, and then we actually go ahead and do it, and it’s immediately FIRE REGGIE he is an idiot… So annoying……
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How is Briesel not considered on scholarship? He was horrible last year and we resigned him. The only thing that annoys me is that people that were so happy that we were getting a “modern” franchise are surprised that RM is going to gut this team. Al re-negotiated contracts every year and freed up cap space and at least attempted to get better. Players and agents understood that. New management won’t get that kind of deal. Love him or hate him Al Davis wanted this team to win.
New management appears to want to clean up the books for the new ownership so Mark can prep for a sale.
And to everybody that makes the argument that the Raiders can’t move to LA becuase there is no stadium, what’s stopping them from playing in Oakland while a new one in LA is being built Or just playing at the Coliseum like they did the last time they were there.
It looks like the plan is:
2014 get first pick of the draft, sell the team and move in 2015.
This is what you wanted Raider Nation, a Green Bay franchise without Brett Farve or Aaron Rogers.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:08 am
When have I ever said carson palmer was “elite” : answer = never.
Let the best qb win the job. I am ALL for that. And I like Pryor so you can’t just color me in that box like your lazy mind wants to…
March 13th, 2013 at 10:08 am
Rappoport also thinks cassel will get a look here if cut
March 13th, 2013 at 10:08 am
This is the scene from the movie “Major League”, where the new owner, who wants to move the team, invites a bunch of nobody’s to spring training (”This guy here is dead!” “Cross him off then!”), except this time there will be no Hollywood ending, unless you consider the Raiders moving to LA a Hollywood ending.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:09 am
http://www.raiders.com/tickets/signup.html
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I just saw that as the headliner at the homepage. Is that a joke?
March 13th, 2013 at 10:09 am
only and idiot attempts to speak for others
it beats talking about your failed hero palmer, how many ways can we say he sucks?
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damn sure aint my hero, i don’t look up to athletes unlike yourself. my argument was that he’s a better qb overall than jason campbell and every gm agrees with me.
proof will be that cp will be starting this year and jason campbell won’t
March 13th, 2013 at 10:10 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:02 am
DHB’s future NFL career hinges on his ability to cover punts.
He is now in the Derek Hagan’s of the NFL world.
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I disagree only in the sense that DHB is truly one of the supreme athletes in the league, regardless of WR abilities. If Derek Hagan was as strong, fast, and athletic as DHB, he’d be an All-Pro. Not gonna make any predictions on what he will actually do, but we should expect that SOME team is going to try to make something out of DHB’s athleticism. He can block, he is good with the YAC, and hes strong enough that hes hard for DBs to tackle. Just has to get around that catching thing.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:10 am
I said screw it and joined a softball league.
Tired of shooting the same score for a decade.
Got married, put on 35 pounds, and now am jacking HR’s, lol.
CAn’t do that in Golf.
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correct. Golf is the one sport where I pay a lot of money and feel like crap at the end of the event. Kinda like paying for Raider Tix…and why I dont bother going to the game anymore.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:10 am
Can we pickup guys from the “California Penal League”?
March 13th, 2013 at 10:10 am
Enter, Geno Smith
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I was in to your BS until you ended it with this.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:11 am
Knew this gutting would occur and it is a good thing, not finished yet, reggie i am sure is looking to deal if not i think you know the obvious guys getting cut.
Heck KC thinks it can trade cassel, so why not palmer
March 13th, 2013 at 10:11 am
1354.Thec Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:04 am
We need a face of the franchise.
Enter, Geno Smith
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No way man…I would rather wait until next year…Better class of QB’s to chose from.
Agreed! What’s up brother?
March 13th, 2013 at 10:11 am
Chris in NY Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:04 am
Huff could’ve been restructured and the cap savings would have been more than enough to cover Brant’s cap hit. Basically, we could have retained Huff and Bryant and been in the same cap situation we’re in right now, only with those two players on board.
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While i was a big fan of Bryant, I cannot support any plan to retain him that involves also keeping Michael Huff.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:11 am
Matt Cassel? LMAO.
This just keeps getting more and more comical.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:11 am
Charlie,
Your telling me that Brisiel and Bergstrom are good players? Coye Francis is a good player? It’s all talk. Name one move that RM and DA has done to bring in good players? Burris? Has the heart but he just missed another tackle 5 min. ago when he was checking the mail.
It’s all talk.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:12 am
reggie’s doin the right thing, seein if there’s a market for cp, kelly and mcclain. no need to cut them yet
March 13th, 2013 at 10:12 am
Sign Glo to back up Pryor!
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Oh pls no.
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LMFAO
March 13th, 2013 at 10:12 am
Bryant and Wheeler got paid!!!!! They’re gone!!!!
Would you guys be all happy and schit if Reg would of retained both these guys at a combined $60 mil?
Hellllllllll fk’n naw!!!!
In Reggie I trust
March 13th, 2013 at 10:12 am
Got married, put on 35 pounds, and now am jacking HR’s, lol.
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truth is, you are now on Roids…
March 13th, 2013 at 10:12 am
I disagree only in the sense that DHB is truly one of the supreme athletes in the league, regardless of WR abilities.
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DHB is a physical specimen but he plays a position that requires great eye hand coordination. He has none in that dept. He is the worst WR at tracking the ball in the air.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:13 am
Hwnrdr, All is well Brethren… hope all is good with you.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:13 am
One guy from every practice squad.. its our yr guys
March 13th, 2013 at 10:14 am
aig-raiders Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:10 am
I said screw it and joined a softball league.
Tired of shooting the same score for a decade.
Got married, put on 35 pounds, and now am jacking HR’s, lol.
CAn’t do that in Golf.
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correct. Golf is the one sport where I pay a lot of money and feel like crap at the end of the event. Kinda like paying for Raider Tix…and why I dont bother going to the game anymore.
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Thats why you need to show up early and tailgate hard and get wasted! Makes watching the game much easier and also eases the pain.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:15 am
1393.Thec Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:13 am
Hwnrdr, All is well Brethren… hope all is good with you.
Yup, all good! I woke up this morning…lol…but hey, that’s always a good sign!
March 13th, 2013 at 10:15 am
inonewordraider,
Jason Campbell will have a job in 2013. nobody knows starter or backup. probably get backup pay, but may end up starting if a young rookie (Smith or Barkley) stinks
March 13th, 2013 at 10:15 am
Bears released TE Matt Spaeth.
It’s a move that could be seen coming from a mile away after the Bears signed Martellus Bennett. Spaeth had a $500,000 roster bonus due on Thursday. A pure blocker with just 49 catches in six years, Spaeth’s market will be slow developing.
Related: Bears
Source: Jeff Dickerson on Twitter
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I could see Reg bringing in this guy to at least block.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:15 am
J Hill Says:
Now back to our Hatfield and McCoy routine, lol.
Sign Glo to back up Pryor!
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Could of had the Bruce and Jamarcus in too! Let ‘em fight it out in OTA’s and when Russell is again cut on day three, Debo would have another three years to belabor our mishandling of him.
Grads would tear a pectoral muscle and I’m not real sure JC backs up Pryor.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:15 am
I said screw it and joined a softball league.
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You softball cats are hilarious.
Let it go, man!
LET
IT
GOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
March 13th, 2013 at 10:16 am
Wow. An “In Reggie I trust” sighting. Those are about as rare as Elvis sightings these days. I assumed they were extinct by this point.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:16 am
Darrius Heyward-Bey@theDHB85
Today one chapter in my life closed and another will start soon enough. #life pic.twitter.com/H9sAPmPefQ
Retweeted by Steve Corkran
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read this tweet by dhb? gonna miss the guy, true Raider
March 13th, 2013 at 10:17 am
We always have guys that do other things well, just not the job they are supposed to. I call it the J.T. Snow effect.
-DHB can’t catch, but is a great blocker
-MM34 can’t play safety, but is a great blitzer
-Burris can’t tackle, but never has to be told the same thing twice, like he is Rainman or something
-Soup couldn’t throw it down the field, but was awesome at the play-fakes
-Huff can’t make impact plays at safety, but is diverse enough to be a crappy CB too
-Carlisle can’t run block, but never gets called for penalties
-Carson is the best in the biz at the 2 minute offense, but struggles with the 58 minute offense
(Feel free to add your own)
Please end the madness!!!!
March 13th, 2013 at 10:17 am
So painfully OVERDUE! You have to pressure wash this roster of check cashiers, malcontents and the endless potential guys and build it up the right way.
Will we FINALLY build the doggone lines? Draft real productivity? How about free agents that play to their pay?
$32 million in dead money? Just the result of of overrating “talent” and here and now quite k fixes……which don’t exist.
Get Kelly and Palmer outta here and Reggie can start to redevelop this downtrodden franchise!
Clean this House!
March 13th, 2013 at 10:18 am
elraidmanhattan Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:07 am
Confirmed Vince Young getting a workout with raiders
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The bad news just keeps coming…..
March 13th, 2013 at 10:18 am
J Heezy
I don’t want to see MM starting at SS
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I wouldn’t mind giving him the CHANCE to start at SS. I think we could resign him for a very reasonable price.
I’m not at all saying we should just hand him the job.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:18 am
Big fat dummy… not for rebuilding. For taking a year of fùcking around before he realized we are rebuilding.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:19 am
poprox13 Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:18 am
elraidmanhattan Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:07 am
Confirmed Vince Young getting a workout with raiders
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The bad news just keeps coming…..
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we could do worse, vyoung>leinert>boller
March 13th, 2013 at 10:19 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:15 am
inonewordraider,
Jason Campbell will have a job in 2013. nobody knows starter or backup. probably get backup pay, but may end up starting if a young rookie (Smith or Barkley) stinks
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everybody knows, he’s backup material
March 13th, 2013 at 10:19 am
I doubt jc would ever comeback even if the raiders begged.
The way he was ousted by hu jack and jr was classless. he deserved better than that after restoring the team to respectability and making dhb dmac moore and ford lift their games to their greatest output of their careers.
well in the end the raiders are getting what they deserve for this foolish and treasonous act.
Stuck with a lemon named carson and quickly crashing back into the basement of the nfl and full fledged laughingstock status.
The team as it stands now is nearly unrecognizable to me.
Who are the play makers? Who is the qb? the defense? the head coach?
They will simply have to take their medi-sine and it will get ugly before it gets better.
carson will lead the team to another turn over filled parade of bloopers and loses. Then and only then can the demon that haunts us be exercised with the benching of carson.
Carson’s arrival marked the beginning of the end for the team that i loved, that davis sr built. The team that was considered an up and coming power and on its way to afc west dominance and a playoff run.
Ther has been a steady decline since the day the collar bone cracked and carson deplaned in Oakland with trumpets blaring and ticker tape superbowl travel dreams.
In fact its worse than decline it is a dumpster fire.
carson stepped in and couldnt match his predecessor, or overcome the obstacles the qb he replaced did. this included a lack of depth and a terrible defense.
The raider missed the playoffs flaming out to the tune of 4-5 down the stretch, hu jack was fired. we went into the next season and quickly displayed that we are one of the worst teams in football. 4-12 yuck.
Now players are being purged, and we are set for another terrible year. until carson is benched I struggle to find anything worth watching n oakland.
yipee
March 13th, 2013 at 10:19 am
A lot the old great posters are here.
Where’s B and Lefty???
March 13th, 2013 at 10:19 am
Thec Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:12 am
Got married, put on 35 pounds, and now am jacking HR’s, lol.
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truth is, you are now on Roids…
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Truth is, you were a no show at Hwnrdr’s tail gate
lol
Naw just fk’n wit ya
March 13th, 2013 at 10:20 am
inonewordraider Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:19 am
poprox13 Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:18 am
elraidmanhattan Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:07 am
Confirmed Vince Young getting a workout with raiders
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The bad news just keeps coming…..
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we could do worse, vyoung>leinert>boller
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Sh1t, your right :0
March 13th, 2013 at 10:20 am
Marks Hair Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:18 am
Big fat dummy… not for rebuilding. For taking a year of fùcking around before he realized we are rebuilding.
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He knew, he just forgot to inform the NATION…
Hue said that Reg was going to “gut” the place…
March 13th, 2013 at 10:20 am
Hmmmm…. just saw a report on the NFLN that the RAIDS are indeed going to look at Vince Young.
More writing on the wall for Carson Palmer.
I mentioned to JHILL the other day that retaining CP and TP means the RAIDS would have to be prepared to pretty much install TWO separate offenses.
I don’t trust Tits to install ANY offense. Don’t know about OLSON.
But I do know it’s impractical having to tailor two different offensive schemes bcz your QBs have such different skill sets.
RAIDS interest in VY could be a tip off that a scheme better fitted to TP is on the agenda and doesn’t bode well for Carson.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:20 am
I have always liked VY. I know he has personal issues but it looks like he got humbled now. The kid can lead a team and did it in college and the pros. If we are going with a mobile QB as the future, then we might as well have all of our qbs able to play that system.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:21 am
Thec Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:07 am
DMAC Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:03 am
Thec
What up playuh?
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whats good D? Any new slaps you got uploaded?
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Been is the studio lots, but haven’t uploaded anything in a while.
Ill keep you posted
March 13th, 2013 at 10:21 am
DMAC Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:19 am
Thec Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:12 am
Got married, put on 35 pounds, and now am jacking HR’s, lol.
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truth is, you are now on Roids…
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Truth is, you were a no show at Hwnrdr’s tail gate
lol
Naw just fk’n wit ya
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ROFLMAO….
March 13th, 2013 at 10:21 am
Hahaha Vince Young wow that guys sucks balls Reggie is a fcking joke this team is gonna be awful
March 13th, 2013 at 10:21 am
Anyone who will take a minimum salary, is the polar opposite of anyone Al Davis might like, and is willing to sign their contract at IHOP and pick up Reggie’s tab = Someone Reggie is interested in signing.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:22 am
Been is the studio lots, but haven’t uploaded anything in a while.
Ill keep you posted
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Keep putting in work, do not stop ever.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:22 am
J Hill Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:15 am
I said screw it and joined a softball league.
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You softball cats are hilarious.
Let it go, man!
LET
IT
GOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
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Softball is da schit!
GET OVER IT!
March 13th, 2013 at 10:22 am
please football gods sign vy like i proposed a few months ago here.
I repeat bring in vy and let him and pryor go hybrid, that way no matter who is in the game the offense does not change.
vy one of the greatest zone read qbs in college footballs history.
I think pryor is going to be much better than vy, but they would make a solid duo, and give me a reason to care about this team.
as it stands now, watching the imposter qb carson makes me want to jam pencils into my own eyeballs.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:23 am
I don’t trust Tits to install ANY offense.
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I don’t trust him as dog catcher…
March 13th, 2013 at 10:23 am
Truth is, you were a no show at Hwnrdr’s tail gate
lol
Naw just fk’n wit ya
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Hey, I earned and deserved that one.
I blame Carson. If we weren’t 3-10, the tailgate scene would have been much friendly and less prone to the nonsense I had to put up with.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:24 am
I mentioned to JHILL the other day that retaining CP and TP means the RAIDS would have to be prepared to pretty much install TWO separate offenses.
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I hate Vince Young with a damn passion man.
I might have to join up with Chris if we sign that effin clown!
March 13th, 2013 at 10:24 am
SnB Offense Defense Specialteams, hope all is well… Where have you been?
March 13th, 2013 at 10:24 am
more IHOP jokes?
#tired_neverfunny
March 13th, 2013 at 10:24 am
aig-raiders Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:20 am
I have always liked VY. I know he has personal issues but it looks like he got humbled now. The kid can lead a team and did it in college and the pros. If we are going with a mobile QB as the future, then we might as well have all of our qbs able to play that system.
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exactly, also making it more likely that cp is being shopped.
if cp stays it’s like having a bench in basketball that speeds up the pace, changes the look for the d
March 13th, 2013 at 10:24 am
VY, TP and Tebow in all out 3 for all.
Preseason would never be more entertaining
March 13th, 2013 at 10:25 am
No difference between 6-10 and 2-14.
And with all the lost “talent” today, the defense did not get any WORSE than it was after week 17.
You can be junk and get smashed by the Tampa running for minimum wage.
This will be the most productive team for the dollar this raider team has been since ‘02.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:25 am
You know what, VY and Pryor in training camp…what’s teh worse that could happen?
March 13th, 2013 at 10:26 am
P-man, how are things in llamaland?
March 13th, 2013 at 10:26 am
no suicidal QB’s please.
didn’t we just purge his BFF, Huff?
March 13th, 2013 at 10:26 am
You softball cats are hilarious.
Let it go, man!
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Hell NO!!!
Now that I got some old-man power, it is game over for everyone else.
Who would have thought massive plates of Baked Ziti was the missing ingredient?
March 13th, 2013 at 10:26 am
I normally don’t do this, but I tried to tell lots in here that Ellerbe would be a nice addition, but pricey. Many said Ravens would never let him go, cuz Lewis is retiring and Ellerbe would be the leader of their D.
I told you guys $$$$$ talks, BS walks!
March 13th, 2013 at 10:26 am
please football gods sign vy like i proposed a few months ago here.
I repeat bring in vy and let him and pryor go hybrid, that way no matter who is in the game the offense does not change.
vy one of the greatest zone read qbs in college footballs history.
I think pryor is going to be much better than vy, but they would make a solid duo, and give me a reason to care about this team.
as it stands now, watching the imposter qb carson makes me want to jam pencils into my own eyeballs.
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Not sure VY is the answer but taking a look at him is at least worth a shot. And put me in for the pool on being happy we didnt blow our load in free agency. Most of these contracts kill teams in the long run. We need to get our cap situation under control as much as that sucks. I know a lot of you will say we’ve been in a rebuilding phase for forever. And yeah you’re right but that doesn’t change the fact that it still needs to be done.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:27 am
OMFG
Vince Young?????
Chris, Dakota, and GDog ….
Move the eff over!
I’m driving the eff McKenzie bus now!!!!
March 13th, 2013 at 10:27 am
1425.Just Fire Baby Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:23 am
Truth is, you were a no show at Hwnrdr’s tail gate
lol
Naw just fk’n wit ya
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Hey, I earned and deserved that one.
I blame Carson. If we weren’t 3-10, the tailgate scene would have been much friendly and less prone to the nonsense I had to put up with.
All good bro! All good!
March 13th, 2013 at 10:27 am
kno one’s signed lechler or seymour yet huh?
March 13th, 2013 at 10:28 am
Vince Young may be the most exciting free agent name you see all offseason. Maybe the most exciting name you see throughout Reggie’s tenure.
Savor the moment, folks.-
March 13th, 2013 at 10:28 am
VY is beyond terrible, but I would enjoy some weekly quotes from that buffoon.
He might just be the dumbest person in all of sports.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:28 am
Vy doesnt necessarily mean the end of carson.
I have said since last season that knapp failed by not having an offense tailored for pryor.
I pointed out the pitfalls of trying to install two offenses going into next year, but read olsen saying that is excatly what he will do.
Vy will sign cheap, and as of this second we dont have another qb besides pryor.
this could be carson getting the axe, or it could be a move for roster depth.
what ever the motive do it today
March 13th, 2013 at 10:28 am
1434.RaiderRockstar Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:26 am
no suicidal QB’s please.
didn’t we just purge his BFF, Huff?
LOL, hey why not? we have a suicidal fan base at times!
March 13th, 2013 at 10:29 am
jhill tickets are still available…
March 13th, 2013 at 10:29 am
Softball is for cats that just can’t let the glory days go.
If you have enough nothces on your belt, you can move on to other stages of your life!
March 13th, 2013 at 10:29 am
lmao at Hill this morning. Later boys. Go Vince Young!!!!!!!
March 13th, 2013 at 10:29 am
Vince Young!?!?!
I work down the street from UT, i’ve watched him from the start, he has NO work ethic. He will make Jamarcus Russell look like Joe Montana. Here is a pic of him sleeping in class but wide awake at the bar after class. (looks like he is in football shape.)
http://profootballzone.com/nfl/vince-young-sleeping-in-school-hanging-out-at-bars/
March 13th, 2013 at 10:29 am
Huff was terrible, I know many others don’t think so, but he had no physicality and terrible tackling.
Toefeelson was a mistake.
DHB was prob asked to take a pay cut and wouldn’t so he is gone, could NEVER prove he could develop into a #1 WR and streater outplayed him and proved he could be a nfl #1.
Bryant and Wheeler gone, shocking tho.
I think Reggie will wait and shuffle this roster constantly from now until week 1.
He is doing what he can with nothing and dead money is all AL’s fault.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:29 am
Chris in NY Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:28 am
Vince Young may be the most exciting free agent name you see all offseason. Maybe the most exciting name you see throughout Reggie’s tenure.
Savor the moment, folks.-
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That tenure wont last long then
March 13th, 2013 at 10:30 am
Mistic, I heard rumors that AZ wants him and are trying to package pics to grab him…do you know if any truth to this? Anyone?
March 13th, 2013 at 10:30 am
here’s dhb’s tweet if you haven’t read it:
it’s been a pleasure playing for the Raiders Organization and the City of Oakland. Thanks to the coaches, equipment staff, training staff, media relations, media and Fans for a great experience. Most important thank you to Al Davis for giving me the opportunity to live out my dreams #Raidernation
March 13th, 2013 at 10:30 am
Adam Schefter@AdamSchefter
So Lions haul today now includes Reggie Bush, Jason Jones, Chris Houston.
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As @espn_nfcnblog is reporting and has been confirmed, Lions and Reggie Bush have reached agreement on 4-year deal.
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On day Bengals lost Manny Lawson, Cincinnati free-agent LB Rey Maualuga is visiting the Arizona Cardinals.
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Lions agreement with Jason Jones is for three years.
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March 13th, 2013 at 10:32 am
Bey hasn’t signed anywhere, he’s not on the Raider roster.
Tollefson hasn’t signed anywhere, he’s not on the Raider roster.
Same with Huff.
Richard Seymour still is, and as a matter of fact, there is no injured reserve list anymore, so they had to actually move him to the roster. That wouldn’t be an oversight.
Once again, every hack everywhere said his contract automatically voided(incorrect) or the Raiders excersised their option to void his contract.
Do players with voided contracts stay on your roster?
March 13th, 2013 at 10:32 am
I don’t feel like arguing about whether Reggie is fat bumbling retard or if he is doing a good job anymore. There is about as much reason to argue that as to argue whether or not God exists. How about we talk about our team needs and how you think we may address them.
Positions we need (depth or replacement starter)
QB – No matter who starts, we still need another 1 at least (2 if Palmer is moved)
RB – DMac is the only RB under contract (Tjones moving to CB, Jeremy Stewart is an ERFA)
FB – Reece is more a weapon than a FB, need a blocker for short yardage
WR – Need a true Vet here
TE – Myers free, Aus and Gordon inspire no confidence
LG – Time for Coop to hang ‘em up
RT – Barnes is a FA, not likely to be retained
(we need a couple of ’swing’ guys for depth on the OLine too) Need at least 5 oline man to come compete for positions
DE – Houston is good, crawford is unknown, need at least 2 ends
DT – Kelly could be gone, Bilukidi is promising but not an everydown starter yet, need 3 at least
LB – Burris is the best on the roster, need at least SIX LBs to compete in camp
CB – Need at least 4 in camp. Adams and Chewy can compete
S – Branch is the only 1 we have under contract need at least 3
There are about 300 free agents still available with NFL experience. We have no ability to attract big name games, without WAY overpaying. That isn’t going to happen. We are going to look at a bunch of middle class FA’s.
I agree though at this point, we should trade off Palmer and Dmac for whatever we can get. DMac is out of here asap after next season, even if he has to take a job splitting carries with someone. Like so many have said, Palmer is QB of today on a team of tomorrow. He has no real value to us, and we don’t offer any to him really. Send him off to a team who is closer and just needs a QB (Buf, AZ) to get over the hump.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:32 am
Adam Caplan@caplannfl
Raiders re-signed CB/S Coye Francies.
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March 13th, 2013 at 10:32 am
VY is beyond terrible, but I would enjoy some weekly quotes from that buffoon.
He might just be the dumbest person in all of sports.
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LMFAO
Keep Chileeh Dawg Kelly for the quotes, man.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:32 am
J Hill Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:29 am
Softball is for cats that just can’t let the glory days go.
If you have enough nothces on your belt, you can move on to other stages of your life!
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Don’t be mad, cuz you can’t swing the wood anymore OG?
March 13th, 2013 at 10:33 am
J Hill Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:27 am
OMFG
Vince Young?????
Chris, Dakota, and GDog ….
Move the eff over!
I’m driving the eff McKenzie bus now!!!!
>>>>
That made me laugh!
March 13th, 2013 at 10:33 am
For those people hating on Reggie McKenzie, you guys gotta get your heads outta Al Davis’ ass. The ONLY skill position players worth keeping on this team are Carson, DMC, Reece, Denarius Moore, and Tyvon Branch. The lack of legitamate NFL talent on the roster is EMBARASSING. DHB was turning a corner in his career, but he’s not worth the price tag.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:34 am
hwnrdr Says:
Mistic, I heard rumors that AZ wants him and are trying to package pics to grab him…do you know if any truth to this? Anyone?
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Doubt it. Palmer has the leverage. Pisses Miss Tick off no end.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:35 am
“Dream Team….huh-huh..huh-huh”
Has any player ever sounded more like Beavis and Butthead in a quote before?
March 13th, 2013 at 10:36 am
the bills took a 10 mil cap hit for dropping fitz
WHY THE HELL DONT WE AXE CARSON!!!! FITZ AND CARSON ARE COMPARABLE LOSER QBS BOTH WITH HUGE CONTRACTS
March 13th, 2013 at 10:36 am
Bcz24,
Middle class free agents are aiming too high. We’re strictly dumpster diving.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:37 am
The Bucs have begun contract negotiations with free agent FS Dashon Goldson.
Goldson arrived in Tampa late Tuesday and is visiting on Wednesday. A deal may be imminent. The Bucs are still rich with salary cap space, and needy enough in the secondary that they can’t afford to let Goldson get out of town.
Related: Buccaneers
Source: Roy Cummings on Twitter
March 13th, 2013 at 10:38 am
stinger12345 Says:
For those people hating on Reggie McKenzie, you guys gotta get your heads outta Al Davis’ ass. The ONLY skill position players worth keeping on this team are Carson, DMC, Reece, Denarius Moore, and Tyvon Branch. The lack of legitamate NFL talent on the roster is EMBARASSING. DHB was turning a corner in his career, but he’s not worth the price tag.
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Someone gets it. I’d accuse me of crossposting except I’d be wrong.
I’d add a few more to the list, though.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:38 am
Thec Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:24 am
SnB Offense Defense Specialteams, hope all is well… Where have you been?
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Thec, its been good. No complaints. I was just watching these Raiders last yr and when Leinart was playing I kinda mailed it with these guys. The raiders were so lethargic, I saw no point on complaining about the steady flow of bs.
The pressure washing of the roster got me energized to follow things more closely cause those check cash’n bs’ers were shown the door.
It’s darkest before the dawn. Rock bottom is now. It’s all up from here! Regardless of the 2013 record.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:38 am
I have this lil feelin that Reg is going to make his 1st FA splash signing Adrian Wilson.
He’s a baller.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:38 am
Bill Williamson @espn_afcwest
#NFLFreeAgency NFL Network is reporting #Raiders talking giving Vince Young a workout. Now that get this franchise going #fixthedefense.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:38 am
Alot of you regular ’semis’ are panick stricken females. Al david has been the worst in terms oof drafting talent since 2002.
Reggie is doing exactly what is needed. We need to clean house. We will suck next year too and that is the price you pay Mark Davis when you inherent your Senile fathers team.
He overpaid for free agents and drafted incorrectly EVERY YEAR!!
Carson is next, DMAC may need to be traded. We need to trade our pick and collect more picks and build through the draft.
Keep going reggie!!
March 13th, 2013 at 10:38 am
Stinger12345 Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:33 am
For those people hating on Reggie McKenzie, you guys gotta get your heads outta Al Davis’ ass. The ONLY skill position players worth keeping on this team are Carson, DMC, Reece, Denarius Moore, and Tyvon Branch. The lack of legitamate NFL talent on the roster is EMBARASSING. DHB was turning a corner in his career, but he’s not worth the price tag.
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I might add Streater and Pryor to that list, but your point still stands. LOL at everyone crying about Reggie dismantling a team that was HOW many games under .500 since the Super Bowl?
I hope Reggie dismantles it even more. Burn baby, burn!
March 13th, 2013 at 10:38 am
1460.stinger12345 Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:33 am
For those people hating on Reggie McKenzie, you guys gotta get your heads outta Al Davis’ ass. The ONLY skill position players worth keeping on this team are Carson, DMC, Reece, Denarius Moore, and Tyvon Branch. The lack of legitamate NFL talent on the roster is EMBARASSING. DHB was turning a corner in his career, but he’s not worth the price tag.
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VINCE YOUNG…….VINCE ‘FREAKING’ YOUNG…so what were you talking about talent?
March 13th, 2013 at 10:39 am
For those people hating on Reggie McKenzie, you guys gotta get your heads outta Al Davis’ ass. The ONLY skill position players worth keeping on this team are Carson, DMC, Reece, Denarius Moore, and Tyvon Branch. The lack of legitamate NFL talent on the roster is EMBARASSING. DHB was turning a corner in his career, but he’s not worth the price tag.
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Agreed and its not going to get better until we free up the cap space and build through solid drafts.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:39 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:36 am
the bills took a 10 mil cap hit for dropping fitz
WHY THE HELL DONT WE AXE CARSON!!!! FITZ AND CARSON ARE COMPARABLE LOSER QBS BOTH WITH HUGE CONTRACTS
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Thought I would never say this, but I agree w/ you on this 1.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:39 am
I think it is clear they are going with Pryor now. Not because they are trying to build a better team around him… no! Its because they are bringing in the only player they can think of that has WORSE mechanics than Pryor to boost his confidence.
Well played, Reggie…. well played!
March 13th, 2013 at 10:40 am
Gradkowski’s going to Pittsburgh, so everyone wanting him back can pipe down now.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:40 am
—”Report: Raiders having “preliminary” talks with Vince Young”—
You got to be kidding..
March 13th, 2013 at 10:40 am
just because we have cap space doesn’t mean we use it. maybe wait till we’re good to spend a lil, maybe mark has a budget who knows
March 13th, 2013 at 10:40 am
Speaking of dumpster diving…remember that movie, Down and Out in Beverly Hills where Nick Nolte was teaching the dog how to dumpster dive and saying that he had his best meals there???
March 13th, 2013 at 10:40 am
1454.Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:32 am
Bey hasn’t signed anywhere, he’s not on the Raider roster.
Tollefson hasn’t signed anywhere, he’s not on the Raider roster.
Same with Huff.
Richard Seymour still is, and as a matter of fact, there is no injured reserve list anymore, so they had to actually move him to the roster. That wouldn’t be an oversight.
Once again, every hack everywhere said his contract automatically voided(incorrect) or the Raiders excersised their option to void his contract.
Do players with voided contracts stay on your roster?
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Seymour isn’t on our roster, he is listed as a FA anywhere you look. Not sure why he is still on the teams site, Shaunessy is as well and he is an unsigned FA.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:41 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:36 am
the bills took a 10 mil cap hit for dropping fitz
WHY THE HELL DONT WE AXE CARSON!!!! FITZ AND CARSON ARE COMPARABLE LOSER QBS BOTH WITH HUGE CONTRACTS
Raiders are trying to trade Carson, that is my opinion.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:41 am
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
Doubt it. Palmer has the leverage. Pisses Miss Tick off no end.
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
WHY THE HELL DONT WE AXE CARSON!!!! FITZ AND CARSON ARE COMPARABLE LOSER QBS BOTH WITH HUGE CONTRACTS
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See what I mean. Don’t you love it?
March 13th, 2013 at 10:41 am
Gdog Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:39 am
I think it is clear they are going with Pryor now. Not because they are trying to build a better team around him… no! Its because they are bringing in the only player they can think of that has WORSE mechanics than Pryor to boost his confidence.
Well played, Reggie…. well played!
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Your sarcasm is noted, but if we do bring in Vince and cut CP, it means Reggie, DA and Olson are going all-in with a read option offense. Heck, bring in Pat White and Tim Tebow as well, and let them all compete.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:42 am
Don’t be mad, cuz you can’t swing the wood anymore OG?
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I’m not mad at all.
I’m like Barry Sanders, bruh. HAPPILY embraced retirement after a STELLAR sports career.
Tore up my knee 8 years ago on the hardwood. Realized during recovery that there are no paychecks associated with going hard in the paint.
Been playing golf ever since.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:42 am
Me!.. I think Reggies doing what has to be done… Not a lot of options… Ive had enough of the football weve had during the last decade +….. Im tired of watching players make plays against our team on the NFL highlights…. Seems like more than not they show the Raiders getting burned on the plays of the day… May have to put up with it a couple more years but im ready for a new direction
March 13th, 2013 at 10:43 am
I am not upset so much about whats going on, the draft is ahead and FA isn’t about grabbing big names, sort of who fits the agenda and keep building. Week 1 is far away and this team will be much better than last year.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:43 am
Adam Schefter@AdamSchefter
And Cardinals reached an agreement in principle on a one-year deal with former Steelers RB Rashard Mendenhall.
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March 13th, 2013 at 10:43 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
WHY THE HELL DONT WE AXE CARSON!!!!
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Honestly, I don’t think we can play the game of football without a quarterback. The center can’t just grab the ball and run with it, and McFadden is gone after this year.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:44 am
Test
March 13th, 2013 at 10:45 am
Who cares if they work out Vince young. He is at BEST being brought in as a back up QB. No team in the NFL has this kind of reaction to the bu QB position.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:45 am
You guys are still whining and crying? Here, I have a message from Al from beyond the grave: “get ova it.”
March 13th, 2013 at 10:45 am
GOODBYE CARSON. LOL VINCE YOUNG
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/13/report-raiders-having-preliminary-talks-with-vince-young/
March 13th, 2013 at 10:46 am
Sir RaiderDuck, OMS Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:41 am
Gdog Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:39 am
I think it is clear they are going with Pryor now. Not because they are trying to build a better team around him… no! Its because they are bringing in the only player they can think of that has WORSE mechanics than Pryor to boost his confidence.
Well played, Reggie…. well played!
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Your sarcasm is noted, but if we do bring in Vince and cut CP, it means Reggie, DA and Olson are going all-in with a read option offense. Heck, bring in Pat White and Tim Tebow as well, and let them all compete.
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Please explain to us all why it means that.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:47 am
DMAC for Tebow trade is coming any second now.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:47 am
Well, OAK #3 pick has big value now that Buffalo let FItz go….. they need a QB, Arizona as well and one can trade for Carson and one could trade down for #3 for geno.
WIn, win.
Possible.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:47 am
bcz24 Says:
Seymour isn’t on our roster, he is listed as a FA anywhere you look. Not sure why he is still on the teams site, Shaunessy is as well and he is an unsigned FA.
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There’s a better authority than the teams own website?
Like I said, he was deliberately moved from IR to the roster. The NFL has never reported his contract as voided, as they have others, and which supposedly had to be done by Feb. 12.
I don’t get it and the best explanations are all assumptions with no shred of a fact behind it.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:48 am
J Hill Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:42 am
Don’t be mad, cuz you can’t swing the wood anymore OG?
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I’m not mad at all.
I’m like Barry Sanders, bruh. HAPPILY embraced retirement after a STELLAR sports career.
Tore up my knee 8 years ago on the hardwood. Realized during recovery that there are no paychecks associated with going hard in the paint.
Been playing golf ever since.
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C’mon J Heezy tell us the real story.
You were always the last guy to get picked on a team. When you finally got some playing time, you got dunked on like Knight did the other night and called it quits.
lol
March 13th, 2013 at 10:48 am
Bcz24 Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:45 am
Who cares if they work out Vince young. He is at BEST being brought in as a back up QB. No team in the NFL has this kind of reaction to the bu QB position.
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Too many people on here are looking for an excuse to Reggie-bash. Don’t confuse them with the facts, they just want to hate.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:48 am
Stevie Johnson wants Darrius Heyward-Bey in Buffalo
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/13/stevie-johnson-wants-darrius-heyward-bey-in-buffalo/
March 13th, 2013 at 10:48 am
Sir RaiderDuck, OMS Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:41 am
Gdog Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:39 am
I think it is clear they are going with Pryor now. Not because they are trying to build a better team around him… no! Its because they are bringing in the only player they can think of that has WORSE mechanics than Pryor to boost his confidence.
Well played, Reggie…. well played!
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Your sarcasm is noted, but if we do bring in Vince and cut CP, it means Reggie, DA and Olson are going all-in with a read option offense. Heck, bring in Pat White and Tim Tebow as well, and let them all compete.
>>>>
I made a joke about this a few weeks ago… bring VY, Tebow in and the first of the three to throw it through a tire swing from 30 yards out gets the job!
Who knew it might come to fruition!
Gotta wonder what FA WR would come here wanting to get their head taken off?
Oh well… those guys are sure FAST ya know!
March 13th, 2013 at 10:48 am
How old is VY? He’s not 30 yet, right?
March 13th, 2013 at 10:48 am
raiderinparadise Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:47 am
Well, OAK #3 pick has big value now that Buffalo let FItz go….. they need a QB, Arizona as well and one can trade for Carson and one could trade down for #3 for geno.
WIn, win.
Possible.
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yessir
March 13th, 2013 at 10:48 am
Seymour Bush Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:45 am
You guys are still whining and crying? Here, I have a message from Al from beyond the grave: “get ova it.”
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Hey Dumbass, you still think Palmer’s starting?
March 13th, 2013 at 10:48 am
Forget Vince Young…Raiders need to bring in Fitzpatrick ASAP.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:49 am
I don’t feel like arguing about whether Reggie is fat bumbling retard or if he is doing a good job anymore. There is about as much reason to argue that as to argue whether or not God exists.
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Good to hear. Let’s turn the page! So for the record, you are conceding he’s a fat bumbling retard?
March 13th, 2013 at 10:49 am
SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:38 am
Thec Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:24 am
SnB Offense Defense Specialteams, hope all is well… Where have you been?
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Thec, its been good. No complaints.
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allways good to see you chime in,,,hope yuo become a regular on the show…lol
March 13th, 2013 at 10:50 am
Troy Williamson is trying to call Reggie right now for a tryout but he keeps dropping the phone.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:50 am
RaiderDebo Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:46 am
Please explain to us all why it means that.
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If we sign Vince Young and cut CP? We would officially have no drop-back passers on the roster, but we would have two mobile guys who successfully ran the read option in college and have that skill set.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:50 am
Who cares if VY signs. You guys are complaining about VY or any other LOW COST no risk free agent is like someone complaining about the loaner car while your car is in the shop for repairs.
vY won’t be the qb of the future anymore than philip Adams will be a lockdown corner for 10 yrs
March 13th, 2013 at 10:50 am
bcz24 Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:45 am
Who cares if they work out Vince young.
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They are not even working him out. The receptionist just took a message from his agent and handed it to Reggie. That is as far as this is going.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:51 am
ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk
Stevie Johnson wants Darrius Heyward-Bey in Buffalo http://wp.me/p14QSB-7CsM
March 13th, 2013 at 10:51 am
Who’s better at being a back up? VY or Leinhart?
March 13th, 2013 at 10:53 am
bring back vince evans!!!
March 13th, 2013 at 10:53 am
bcz24 Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:45 am
Who cares if they work out Vince young. He is at BEST being brought in as a back up QB. No team in the NFL has this kind of reaction to the bu QB position.
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exactly
If carson stays vy will be penciled in as a backup probably number 3
if carson goes vy is the back up for pryor
Looking around the nfl vy will be one of the most experienced and talented back ups in football.
why is this bad news?
March 13th, 2013 at 10:53 am
bcz24 Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:45 am
Who cares if they work out Vince young.
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Leinert. Which shows you how bad Young is.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:53 am
hwnrdr Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:51 am
Who’s better at being a back up? VY or Leinhart?
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vince young took his team to the playoffs
March 13th, 2013 at 10:53 am
We play our cards right, we could be the first NFL team to still be able to field a starting 53 man roster and half of the cap as dead money. That’s quite a feat.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:54 am
Tim Tebow would win the contest amongst VY and TP going away.
If we don’t draft Geno, that’s my #2 choice.
When all else fails, go to Jesus.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:55 am
Hwnrdr Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:51 am
Who’s better at being a back up? VY or Leinhart?
+++++++++++
VY…liono gives you nada.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:55 am
I remember watching VY in the National Championship game and thinking I would looooove to have this guy be our QB.
He’s not terribly inaccurate and has mobility of course.
Are u guys sure he isn’t coming to visit with the thought he might be the starter?
With all the slashing and burning going on I don’t think it’s out of the question.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:55 am
VY is Garbage can’t wait for next year when we draft Murray or Manziel
March 13th, 2013 at 10:55 am
I think DHB lands in Pittsburgh to replace Wallace.
Damn near the same players.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:55 am
Seymour Bush Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:50 am
bcz24 Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:45 am
Who cares if they work out Vince young.
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They are not even working him out. The receptionist just took a message from his agent and handed it to Reggie. That is as far as this is going.
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Now I KNOW he’s getting a workout.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:56 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:54 am
Tim Tebow would win the contest amongst VY and TP going away.
If we don’t draft Geno, that’s my #2 choice.
When all else fails, go to Jesus.
++++++++++
Not going to take the bait…AT ALL
March 13th, 2013 at 10:56 am
1496.Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:47 am
bcz24 Says:
Seymour isn’t on our roster, he is listed as a FA anywhere you look. Not sure why he is still on the teams site, Shaunessy is as well and he is an unsigned FA.
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There’s a better authority than the teams own website?
Like I said, he was deliberately moved from IR to the roster. The NFL has never reported his contract as voided, as they have others, and which supposedly had to be done by Feb. 12.
I don’t get it and the best explanations are all assumptions with no shred of a fact behind it.
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Matt Shaunessy is on the teams site, it is a 100% fact that he is an unrestricted free agent, are you disputing that as well??
March 13th, 2013 at 10:56 am
hwnrdr Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:51 am
Who’s better at being a back up? VY or Leinhart?
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Lechler
March 13th, 2013 at 10:56 am
Who cares if VY signs.
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I DO!!!!
Phuck that guy, man!
Locker room JOKE!!!
March 13th, 2013 at 10:57 am
VY > Leinart
They’re back QBs people!
Some of yall need to chill and smoke a blunt.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:57 am
Meeeting…will be back
March 13th, 2013 at 10:57 am
Looking around the nfl vy will be one of the most experienced and talented back ups in football.
why is this bad news?
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bwahahahahaha. Young has 60 starts in 6 years. Kyle Boller has more experience and better numbers. And Young got worse and worse and worse as his career went on. Which is exactly what happens to guys that can’t play the position. Terrel Pryor, looking your way here.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:57 am
I’d MUCH rather have Tebow that VY, lol.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:57 am
Not going to take the bait…AT ALL
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Oh come on…..it will be fun!!
(LOL)
March 13th, 2013 at 10:57 am
back up
March 13th, 2013 at 10:57 am
Goodson should be kept, although Jeremy Stewart looked good too.
Goodson getting looks from Bengals right now.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:57 am
When all else fails, go to Jesus.
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It’s “come to Jesus” HTH
March 13th, 2013 at 10:57 am
In fact, all of the Raiders free agents that haven’t signed elsewhere are on the site.
Huff and DHB are not free agents, they were fired, thats why they are gone.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:58 am
Guest123 Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:53 am
We play our cards right, we could be the first NFL team to still be able to field a starting 53 man roster and half of the cap as dead money. That’s quite a feat.
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I read somewhere the Colts last yr. played with 38 mill. in dead money.
Maybe we can go 11-5 too. With Vince Young leading the way.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:59 am
Goodson getting looks from Bengals right now.
^^^^^^^
yeah I bet he’s gone. For whatever offer they give him.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:59 am
Bcz24 Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:56 am
1496.Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:47 am
bcz24 Says:
Seymour isn’t on our roster, he is listed as a FA anywhere you look. Not sure why he is still on the teams site, Shaunessy is as well and he is an unsigned FA.
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There’s a better authority than the teams own website?
Like I said, he was deliberately moved from IR to the roster. The NFL has never reported his contract as voided, as they have others, and which supposedly had to be done by Feb. 12.
I don’t get it and the best explanations are all assumptions with no shred of a fact behind it.
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Matt Shaunessy is on the teams site, it is a 100% fact that he is an unrestricted free agent, are you disputing that as well??
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NFL teams’ websites are usually run by someone in the marketing department and aren’t always kept up to date in the offseason. I was told awhile back that the only source that reprints the official NFL transaction wire is ProFootballWeekly.com.
March 13th, 2013 at 10:59 am
Free agent LB Nick Roach will visit the Raiders.
Signs of human activity in Oakland. Supposedly drawing interest from over a “half-dozen” teams, Roach could man the strong-side in Oakland, or perhaps even replace Rolando McClain in the middle. Oakland is his first known visit.
Related: Raiders
Source: Jeff Dickerson on Twitter
March 13th, 2013 at 10:59 am
Guest123 Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:59 am
Goodson getting looks from Bengals right now.
^^^^^^^
yeah I bet he’s gone. For whatever offer they give him.
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Supposedly he wants to start; we can’t offer that.
March 13th, 2013 at 11:00 am
raiderinparadise Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:56 am
hwnrdr Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:51 am
Who’s better at being a back up? VY or Leinhart?
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Lechler
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LMAO
March 13th, 2013 at 11:00 am
I read somewhere the Colts last yr. played with 38 mill. in dead money.
Maybe we can go 11-5 too. With Vince Young leading the way.
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that’s some good shhht you smoking there.
March 13th, 2013 at 11:01 am
@ Duck, playing behind McFragile is as good as a starting job!
March 13th, 2013 at 11:01 am
Do we have room for some roaches on our team?
March 13th, 2013 at 11:02 am
Another 235 pound LB?
March 13th, 2013 at 11:02 am
Raiderinparadise Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:57 am
Goodson should be kept, although Jeremy Stewart looked good too.
Goodson getting looks from Bengals right now.
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Now there’s another one to take off the “Reggie Victory Board”….Goodson.
Averaged over 6 ypc. (in limited action) but made some big plays and looked like one of Reggie’s “winners”, but like Wheeler…turns out to be just another lucky guess on Reggie’s part or else he would’ve locked him up for more than one yr.
March 13th, 2013 at 11:02 am
TP & VY…………………they must be willing to design an offense around that style. Wow. Schit’s changing fast now. Could be another exciting day.
March 13th, 2013 at 11:02 am
Sign VY, trade CP for Tebow straight up. Draft Geno! Problem solved!!
May the best man win… PLAYOFFS! Take the tarps down Mark!
March 13th, 2013 at 11:03 am
branch ss and mitchell fs? it mitchell avoids getting burned as often, he could have some game changin hits
March 13th, 2013 at 11:03 am
Guest123 Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 11:00 am
I read somewhere the Colts last yr. played with 38 mill. in dead money.
Maybe we can go 11-5 too. With Vince Young leading the way.
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that’s some good shhht you smoking there.
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I was being a tad sarcastic.
March 13th, 2013 at 11:03 am
All of Reggie’s FA signings will be scrubs NOBODY else wants.
March 13th, 2013 at 11:03 am
You hafta wonder now, with all the guys we’ve lost in the last few days, are the Raiders gonna try and raise a team of scrappy players (older vets, undrafted guys, some draft gems, etc.) and pretend they’re like the Raiders of the last century? If so, perhaps, as P-man has pointed out, there is a reason for Seymour being on the roster. Perhaps a one-year contract to a more (fully) leader for the defense?
March 13th, 2013 at 11:04 am
Another offseason Bruce found work IMMEDIATELY, quicker than just about any other QB out there.
Should have kept him as or backup/vet mentor for 8 years.
Never would have done the Carson dance, and would be perfect to groom Geno.
March 13th, 2013 at 11:04 am
KoolKell Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 11:02 am
Schit’s changing fast now. Could be another exciting day.
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Yeah old geezer, now that the Price is Right is over, Sanford and Son is coming on the WB.
March 13th, 2013 at 11:04 am
1544.guest123 Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 11:01 am
@ Duck, playing behind McFragile is as good as a starting job!
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Unless you are Mike Goodson and severely sprain your ankle in the same game that DMacs inevitable injury comes.
March 13th, 2013 at 11:04 am
Guest123 Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 11:01 am
@ Duck, playing behind McFragile is as good as a starting job!
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I know that, and YOU know that, but Goodson wants to be the starting guy on paper. Besides, maybe this is the year McFadden decides to stays healthy so he can hit the FA market next year and cash in.
March 13th, 2013 at 11:05 am
Now there’s another one to take off the “Reggie Victory Board”….Goodson.
Averaged over 6 ypc. (in limited action) but made some big plays and looked like one of Reggie’s “winners”, but like Wheeler…turns out to be just another lucky guess on Reggie’s part or else he would’ve locked him up for more than one yr.
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Hey, we may get some 6th round compensatory picks for them leaving!!!!
March 13th, 2013 at 11:05 am
need a power back to compliment dmac, whoever the third back is who gives a schit
March 13th, 2013 at 11:05 am
Mitchell isn’t under contract either, but it would be far more reasonable and likely that Branch would go to FS and Mitchell would man the SS.
March 13th, 2013 at 11:06 am
Reggie’s BIG FA signing prediction list. Who will be the Raiders top FA signing this season:
John David Booty: Nnamdi Asomugha
Inonewordraider: Desmond Bryant
RediaR: Ryan Fitzpatrick OR Some UFA
Whoknows: A Guard on the Packers practice squad
Chris In NY: Mrs. Buttersworth
Marks Hair: 1 of those broken down Broncos
Jackasspuria: Adrian Wilson
RaidingTexas: Vince Young
March 13th, 2013 at 11:06 am
1495.raiderinparadise Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:47 am
Well, OAK #3 pick has big value now that Buffalo let FItz go….. they need a QB, Arizona as well and one can trade for Carson and one could trade down for #3 for geno.
WIn, win.
Possible.
^^^^^^^^^^
Also have to hope one of the LT’s Joke or Fisher fall to #3.
Then McK will even have more trade down bait.
The trade down option should be THE top priority for McK and the Raiders.
March 13th, 2013 at 11:06 am
Black smoke from the Sistine. Still no new pope…
March 13th, 2013 at 11:07 am
Free agent LB Nick Roach will visit the Raiders.
Signs of human activity in Oakland. Supposedly drawing interest from over a “half-dozen” teams, Roach could man the strong-side in Oakland, or perhaps even replace Rolando McClain in the middle. Oakland is his first known visit.
Related: Raiders
Source: Jeff Dickerson on Twitter
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Ok. They were talking about this on Chicago radio earlier and were saying they (announcers and callers) that they need Roach… seeing as Urlacher is up in the air.
He’s well regarded in Chi. but has flown under the radar with Urlacher and Briggs taking most of the attention and praise.
March 13th, 2013 at 11:07 am
Or is that white smoke? Kind of hard to tell in the dark.
March 13th, 2013 at 11:07 am
John David Booty Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 11:06 am
Reggie’s BIG FA signing prediction list. Who will be the Raiders top FA signing this season:
John David Booty: Nnamdi Asomugha
Inonewordraider: Desmond Bryant
RediaR: Ryan Fitzpatrick OR Some UFA
Whoknows: A Guard on the Packers practice squad
Chris In NY: Mrs. Buttersworth
Marks Hair: 1 of those broken down Broncos
Jackasspuria: Adrian Wilson
RaidingTexas: Vince Young
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DMAC: Adrian Wilson
March 13th, 2013 at 11:07 am
haaaahahahaaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaa
(in my best Brad Pitt 12 monkeys laugh)
March 13th, 2013 at 11:08 am
Steve Corkran@CorkOnTheNFL
“@JasonColeYahoo: Btw, in a shocking development, DL Richard Seymour prob only going to play if paid a lot.” — Leaders don’t come cheap.
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March 13th, 2013 at 11:08 am
You hafta wonder now, with all the guys we’ve lost in the last few days, are the Raiders gonna try and raise a team of scrappy players (older vets, undrafted guys, some draft gems, etc.) and pretend they’re like the Raiders of the last century?
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nope, they will be the ‘Oakland Check-cashers’
March 13th, 2013 at 11:08 am
White smoke, and the bells are ringing. Probably Scola this early.
March 13th, 2013 at 11:10 am
bcz24 Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 11:05 am
Mitchell isn’t under contract either, but it would be far more reasonable and likely that Branch would go to FS and Mitchell would man the SS.
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mitchell got some run a fs last year, branch seems a more comfortable at ss, why not?
March 13th, 2013 at 11:10 am
Wooo hooo on the Roach sighting. Give me Roach!
do it Reggie! get him!
March 13th, 2013 at 11:10 am
Reggie’s BIG FA signing prediction list. Who will be the Raiders top FA signing this season:
John David Booty: Nnamdi Asomugha
Inonewordraider: Desmond Bryant
RediaR: Ryan Fitzpatrick OR Some UFA
Whoknows: A Guard on the Packers practice squad
Chris In NY: Mrs. Buttersworth
Marks Hair: 1 of those broken down Broncos
Jackasspuria: Adrian Wilson
RaidingTexas: Vince Young
DMAC: Adrian Wilson
March 13th, 2013 at 11:11 am
White smoke, and the bells are ringing. Probably Scola this early.
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is that like the groundhog seeing his shadow?
March 13th, 2013 at 11:11 am
Inonewordraider Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 11:08 am
Steve Corkran@CorkOnTheNFL
“@JasonColeYahoo: Btw, in a shocking development, DL Richard Seymour prob only going to play if paid a lot.” — Leaders don’t come cheap.
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I used to like Seymour, then I hear crap like this?
Good luck Dick.
March 13th, 2013 at 11:11 am
Reggie’s BIG FA signing prediction list. Who will be the Raiders top FA signing this season:
Donald Driver
Brett Favre
Charles Woodson
March 13th, 2013 at 11:13 am
Reggie’s BIG FA signing prediction list. Who will be the Raiders top FA signing this season:
John David Booty: Nnamdi Asomugha
Inonewordraider: Desmond Bryant
RediaR: Ryan Fitzpatrick OR Some UFA
Whoknows: A Guard on the Packers practice squad
Chris In NY: Mrs. Buttersworth
Marks Hair: 1 of those broken down Broncos
Jackasspuria: Adrian Wilson
RaidingTexas: Vince Young
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JFB: Tim Tebow
March 13th, 2013 at 11:13 am
John David Booty Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 11:06 am
Reggie’s BIG FA signing prediction list. Who will be the Raiders top FA signing this season:
Chris In NY: Mrs. Buttersworth
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LOL! Best one yet!
March 13th, 2013 at 11:13 am
Lol….front page of CNN.com under their “featured” area they have Bryant’s mug shot with a caption “NFL giving this man $34 million”
March 13th, 2013 at 11:14 am
Guest123 Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 11:11 am
White smoke, and the bells are ringing. Probably Scola this early.
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is that like the groundhog seeing his shadow?
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Pretty much.
March 13th, 2013 at 11:15 am
I just saw that Dakota.
LMFAO
March 13th, 2013 at 11:15 am
Amazing that people keep thinking Palmer is THE problem.
There is no ONE problem.
Football is the ultimate team game.
Each piece is dependant on one another.
I think it is rather obvious now to the skeptics that this team lacked talent in a variety of areas.
In reality QB is a strength on this team.
Second it is amusing that anyone would challenge Reggie’s talent acquisition strategy when he was $30 million over the cap and had no first and second round picks last year. We do not have a full set of picks till 2014.
Silly.
March 13th, 2013 at 11:15 am
Yahoo’s Jason Cole reports free agent DL Richard Seymour will probably only play football in 2013 “if he gets paid a lot.”
Welp, it might be time for him to call it a career. As much as we liked Seymour as a potential value signing — he can still play when healthy — Seymour is going on age 34 and has missed 11 games due to injury over the past three seasons, including eight games last year. The Falcons and Broncos were said to be in the hunt for Seymour, but neither is going to shell out big bucks.
Source: Jason Cole on Twitter
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FK u D!ck Seymour
March 13th, 2013 at 11:16 am
Johnny Jones III is who will fight for DT time.
T. Kelly will prob stay
March 13th, 2013 at 11:17 am
DMAC Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 11:15 am
Yahoo’s Jason Cole reports free agent DL Richard Seymour will probably only play football in 2013 “if he gets paid a lot.”
Welp, it might be time for him to call it a career. As much as we liked Seymour as a potential value signing — he can still play when healthy — Seymour is going on age 34 and has missed 11 games due to injury over the past three seasons, including eight games last year. The Falcons and Broncos were said to be in the hunt for Seymour, but neither is going to shell out big bucks.
Source: Jason Cole on Twitter
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FK u D!ck Seymour
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when they were asking him where he wanted to play after this year he kept saying “i bleed silver and black”, homeboy aint dumb, he wants to get paid, but neither is reggie
March 13th, 2013 at 11:18 am
Dick Seymour = Baghdad Bob
March 13th, 2013 at 11:18 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 11:13 am
Reggie’s BIG FA signing prediction list. Who will be the Raiders top FA signing this season:
John David Booty: Nnamdi Asomugha
Inonewordraider: Desmond Bryant
RediaR: Ryan Fitzpatrick OR Some UFA
Whoknows: A Guard on the Packers practice squad
Chris In NY: Mrs. Buttersworth
Marks Hair: 1 of those broken down Broncos
Jackasspuria: Adrian Wilson
RaidingTexas: Vince Young
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Phillip Adams
March 13th, 2013 at 11:18 am
Can I just vote: “some dude off GB’s practice squad?” Or does it have to be a specific player?
March 13th, 2013 at 11:18 am
Seymour should retire with all his loot. He’s making an AZZ out himself talking about him being a leader. LMAO. GTFOH!
March 13th, 2013 at 11:19 am
if kelly does stay which i doubt, kelly houston bilikudi in the middle isn’t much different than what we had last year
March 13th, 2013 at 11:19 am
DJ Johnny Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 11:11 am
Inonewordraider Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 11:08 am
Steve Corkran@CorkOnTheNFL
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I used to like Seymour, then I hear crap like this?
Good luck Dick.
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Remember, those are not words out of Seymours mouth. Nowadays anyone can post or say anything. Remember the “Gruden is sitting in Reggies office inking a deal” rumour?
March 13th, 2013 at 11:20 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:54 am
Tim Tebow would win the contest amongst VY and TP going away.
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hahahahahha
delusional
March 13th, 2013 at 11:21 am
Reggie’s BIG FA signing prediction list. Who will be the Raiders top FA signing this season:
John David Booty: Nnamdi Asomugha
Inonewordraider: Desmond Bryant
RediaR: Ryan Fitzpatrick OR Some UFA
Whoknows: A Guard on the Packers practice squad
Chris In NY: Mrs. Buttersworth
Marks Hair: 1 of those broken down Broncos
Jackasspuria: Adrian Wilson
RaidingTexas: Vince Young
DMAC: Adrian Wilson
Raiderinparadise: Donald Driver, Brett Favre, Charles Woodson
Just Fire Baby: Tim Tebow
March 13th, 2013 at 11:23 am
Reggie’s BIG FA signing prediction list. Who will be the Raiders top FA signing this season:
John David Booty: Nnamdi Asomugha
Inonewordraider: Desmond Bryant
RediaR: Ryan Fitzpatrick OR Some UFA
Whoknows: A Guard on the Packers practice squad
Chris In NY: Mrs. Buttersworth
Marks Hair: 1 of those broken down Broncos
Jackasspuria: Adrian Wilson
RaidingTexas: Vince Young
DMAC: Adrian Wilson
Raiderinparadise: Donald Driver, Brett Favre, Charles Woodson
Just Fire Baby: Tim Tebow
Poprox13: Phillip Adams
March 13th, 2013 at 11:24 am
Seymour Bush Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 10:57 am
Looking around the nfl vy will be one of the most experienced and talented back ups in football.
why is this bad news?
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bwahahahahaha. Young has 60 starts in 6 years.
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ummm 60 starts is a lot of nfl experience is it not.
vy has started in the playoffs right?
vy would be an upgrade over lienart and a very solid number 3
if carson is out, vy would be a good 2 as well
you haven’t disputed or disproven my case bush
March 13th, 2013 at 11:24 am
Reggie’s BIG FA signing prediction list. Who will be the Raiders top FA signing this season:
John David Booty: Nnamdi Asomugha
Inonewordraider: Desmond Bryant
RediaR: Ryan Fitzpatrick OR Some UFA
Whoknows: A Guard on the Packers practice squad
Chris In NY: Mrs. Buttersworth
Marks Hair: 1 of those broken down Broncos
Jackasspuria: Adrian Wilson
RaidingTexas: Vince Young
DMAC: Adrian Wilson
Raiderinparadise: Donald Driver, Brett Favre, Charles Woodson
Just Fire Baby: Tim Tebow
Poprox13: Phillip Adams
Gdog: some dude off GB’s practice squad
March 13th, 2013 at 11:25 am
303Raider: Nmandi
March 13th, 2013 at 11:26 am
Sir RaiderDuck, OMS Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 11:06 am
Black smoke from the Sistine. Still no new pope…
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Black smoke from IHOP. Burnt another short stack intended for Reggie! Still no new news!
March 13th, 2013 at 11:27 am
Reggie’s BIG FA signing prediction list. Who will be the Raiders top FA signing this season:
John David Booty: Nnamdi Asomugha
Inonewordraider: Desmond Bryant
RediaR: Ryan Fitzpatrick OR Some UFA
Whoknows: A Guard on the Packers practice squad
Chris In NY: Mrs. Buttersworth
Marks Hair: 1 of those broken down Broncos
Jackasspuria: Adrian Wilson
RaidingTexas: Vince Young
DMAC: Adrian Wilson
Raiderinparadise: Donald Driver, Brett Favre, Charles Woodson
Just Fire Baby: Tim Tebow
Poprox13: Phillip Adams
Gdog: some dude off GB’s practice squad
303Raider: Nnamdi
March 13th, 2013 at 11:28 am
REG BIG SIGNING WILL BE the water boy from the GB SQUAD
March 13th, 2013 at 11:28 am
Jake Long is a Ram, keep dreaming guys
March 13th, 2013 at 11:30 am
bcz24 Says:
Matt Shaunessy is on the teams site, it is a 100% fact that he is an unrestricted free agent, are you disputing that as well??
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Not disputing or being argumentative. I really just don’t get it. If you cut a player, he is no longer on your’s or anyone else’s roster? OK, makes sense.
When you are allowed to enter unrestricted free agency, you stay on your previous teams roster? OK.
When your contract is voided you become an unrestricted free agent still attached to your previous team?
And how do the Raiders void his contract and not inform the NFL?
Or did the Raiders brass and the NFL paper pushers just assume, like all the media hacks, that it had to happen and so nobody bothered informing anybody or crossing their ‘T’s and dotting their ‘i’s? Don’t think that’s how they do business.
March 13th, 2013 at 11:30 am
The reality is we just aren’t a destination most players want to go to anymore. The only way Al got players was by throwing money at them in Free Agency. That plan is what got us into this mess in the first place. Its going to be painful for a while but we’re going to be signing 2nd and 3rd tier free agents and building through the draft until we change the perception of the team and get some young exciting players.
March 13th, 2013 at 11:31 am
I like Nick Roach, would be a nice signing. We could use him at SAM, but I like how he filled in for Urlacher at MLB last season when he was hurt. These are the kinds of players I thought Reggie would have an “eye for”. Under the radar guys. I actually think Roach is gonna get paid by somebody, but if Reggie could reel him in, no hate to him, that would be a good start.
March 13th, 2013 at 11:33 am
I’ve been saying it awhile, but I think you will see a lot of players being moved during the draft to move up 20 or spots in the mid-rounds. Exactly like what we did with Kirk Morrison.
March 13th, 2013 at 11:33 am
John David Booty Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 11:27 am
Reggie’s BIG FA signing prediction list. Who will be the Raiders top FA signing this season:
John David Booty: Nnamdi Asomugha
Inonewordraider: Desmond Bryant
RediaR: Ryan Fitzpatrick OR Some UFA
Whoknows: A Guard on the Packers practice squad
Chris In NY: Mrs. Buttersworth
Marks Hair: 1 of those broken down Broncos
Jackasspuria: Adrian Wilson
RaidingTexas: Vince Young
DMAC: Adrian Wilson
Raiderinparadise: Donald Driver, Brett Favre, Charles Woodson
Just Fire Baby: Tim Tebow
Poprox13: Phillip Adams
Gdog: some dude off GB’s practice squad
303Raider: Nnamdi
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Carlos Dansby
March 13th, 2013 at 11:33 am
Seymour was one of the worst deals this franchise ever made.
A number one pick for (at the time) a 29 year old! Ridiculous. The guy could not even practice and was the HIGHEST PAID PLAYER ON THE TEAM LAST YEAR before Reggie was able to restructure and get us out of the mess he inherited.
SEYMOUR IS DONE. Thankfully he will not be back in Oakland.
We are going to get real young, really fast this year.
Keep in mind Reggie is doing this year what he did last year. He was $30 million over the cap when he took the job and cut down to the cap limit.
We should be down to about $30 million below the cap by September which is about where a 4-12 team ought to be.
Then we will see who can play and will have the room to pay accordingly.
We will build through the draft.
March 13th, 2013 at 11:34 am
Raider_D Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 11:30 am
The reality is we just aren’t a destination most players want to go to anymore. The only way Al got players was by throwing money at them in Free Agency. That plan is what got us into this mess in the first place. Its going to be painful for a while but we’re going to be signing 2nd and 3rd tier free agents and building through the draft until we change the perception of the team and get some young exciting players.
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bulls eye
March 13th, 2013 at 11:34 am
vy has started in the playoffs right?
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Tim Tebow actually won in the playoffs, and didn’t want to quit at halftime.
March 13th, 2013 at 11:36 am
Seymour was one of the worst deals this franchise ever made.
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I sure could have used you around here a few years ago.
I got burned at the stake for just mentioning we should wait and see who won that trade.
March 13th, 2013 at 11:36 am
We should be down to about $30 million below the cap by September which is about where a 4-12 team ought to be.
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@ Charlie, so the ends justify the means? if so, that’s pretty bleak!
March 13th, 2013 at 11:36 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
vy would be an upgrade over lienart and a very solid number 3
if carson is out, vy would be a good 2 as well
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The way you worded that gives the impression that Carson would be the #2 if he stays. I know that wasn’t what you meant to imply.
Wanted to clear that up for your fan base. At least those that aren’t your sock puppets.
March 13th, 2013 at 11:36 am
My biggest concern is if we don’t go to a superbowl or at least AFC championship in the next 6 seasons we won’ be able to call ourselves the “team of decades”. lol
March 13th, 2013 at 11:37 am
Pat Sims visiitng raiders (bengals DT)
March 13th, 2013 at 11:39 am
Reggie’s BIG FA signing prediction list. Who will be the Raiders top FA signing this season:
John David Booty: Nnamdi Asomugha
Inonewordraider: Desmond Bryant
RediaR: Ryan Fitzpatrick OR Some UFA
Whoknows: A Guard on the Packers practice squad
Chris In NY: Mrs. Buttersworth
Marks Hair: 1 of those broken down Broncos
Jackasspuria: Adrian Wilson
RaidingTexas: Vince Young
DMAC: Adrian Wilson
Raiderinparadise: Donald Driver, Brett Favre, Charles Woodson
Just Fire Baby: Tim Tebow
Poprox13: Phillip Adams
Gdog: some dude off GB’s practice squad
303Raider: Nnamdi
Raiderdav: the water boy from the GB SQUAD
Xraided: Karlos Dansby
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Seeing some common themes here. Doesnt appear as if Reggie is thought of very highly around these parts. He has this single off-season to change some minds.
All that aside, doesnt Vince Young and Dennis Allen just sound like a match made in heaven?
March 13th, 2013 at 11:39 am
Vince Young might be the only QB who ISN’T much of an upgrade from Leinart.
“Can’t nobody tell me nothing”
-Vince Young, on 60 minutes
March 13th, 2013 at 11:39 am
xraided Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 11:33 am
John David Booty Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 11:27 am
Reggie’s BIG FA signing prediction list. Who will be the Raiders top FA signing this season:
John David Booty: Nnamdi Asomugha
Inonewordraider: Desmond Bryant
RediaR: Ryan Fitzpatrick OR Some UFA
Whoknows: A Guard on the Packers practice squad
Chris In NY: Mrs. Buttersworth
Marks Hair: 1 of those broken down Broncos
Jackasspuria: Adrian Wilson
RaidingTexas: Vince Young
DMAC: Adrian Wilson
Raiderinparadise: Donald Driver, Brett Favre, Charles Woodson
Just Fire Baby: Tim Tebow
Poprox13: Phillip Adams
Gdog: some dude off GB’s practice squad
303Raider: Nnamdi
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Put me down for Nnamdi
lol@ Raiderinparadise!
March 13th, 2013 at 11:40 am
Ian Rapoport@RapSheet
#Bengals defensive tackle Pat Sims is now visiting the #Raiders. They lost Desmond Bryant yesterday…
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March 13th, 2013 at 11:41 am
xraided Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 11:33 am
John David Booty Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 11:27 am
Reggie’s BIG FA signing prediction list. Who will be the Raiders top FA signing this season:
John David Booty: Nnamdi Asomugha
Inonewordraider: Desmond Bryant
RediaR: Ryan Fitzpatrick OR Some UFA
Whoknows: A Guard on the Packers practice squad
Chris In NY: Mrs. Buttersworth
Marks Hair: 1 of those broken down Broncos
Jackasspuria: Adrian Wilson
RaidingTexas: Vince Young
DMAC: Adrian Wilson
Raiderinparadise: Donald Driver, Brett Favre, Charles Woodson
Just Fire Baby: Tim Tebow
Poprox13: Phillip Adams
Gdog: some dude off GB’s practice squad
303Raider: Nnamdi
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I’ll take Namdi coming back
March 13th, 2013 at 11:43 am
Reggie’s BIG FA signing prediction list. Who will be the Raiders top FA signing this season:
John David Booty: Nnamdi Asomugha
Inonewordraider: Desmond Bryant
RediaR: Ryan Fitzpatrick OR Some UFA
Whoknows: A Guard on the Packers practice squad
Chris In NY: Mrs. Buttersworth
Marks Hair: 1 of those broken down Broncos
Jackasspuria: Adrian Wilson
RaidingTexas: Vince Young
DMAC: Adrian Wilson
Raiderinparadise: Donald Driver, Brett Favre, Charles Woodson
Just Fire Baby: Tim Tebow
Poprox13: Phillip Adams
Gdog: some dude off GB’s practice squad
303Raider: Nnamdi
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush): Nnamdi
Raider_D: Nnamdi
March 13th, 2013 at 11:44 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 11:04 am
Another offseason Bruce found work IMMEDIATELY, quicker than just about any other QB out there.
Should have kept him as or backup/vet mentor for 8 years.
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Did he sign with the Squeelers ?
Guess they didn’t forget Grads beating them.
Have always maintained Grads was better than JCantball.
RAID staff knew it too. That’s why Cantball got benched.
Too bad Gradkowski couldn’t stay healthy.
Wonder if Cantball gets any interest ? Good for Cantball that he had the smarts to grab some money from the Bears while he could.
March 13th, 2013 at 11:44 am
Charlie Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 11:33 am
Seymour was one of the worst deals this franchise ever made.
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not in the same universe and pales in comparison to the carson trade that is one of the worst moves in pro sports history
March 13th, 2013 at 11:44 am
Breaking news:
Cardinals reach deal with Pope. Lifetime deal.
per Shefter
March 13th, 2013 at 11:44 am
Raiderinparadise: Donald Driver, Brett Favre, Charles Woodson
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Lmao
March 13th, 2013 at 11:45 am
Serious question for the Reggie fans:
What makes you think his dumpsterdiving finds will be so much better in Year 2. Clearly that approach and his finds were an unmitigated dumpster fire in 2012. What will make 2013 (and beyond, for that matter) significantly different?-
March 13th, 2013 at 11:46 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 11:34 am
vy has started in the playoffs right?
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Tim Tebow actually won in the playoffs, and didn’t want to quit at halftime.
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not sure why you want to argue about tebow being a better qb than vy
vy is a better passer and has more wins
tebow will never be a raider and better try out for the calgary stmpeders
March 13th, 2013 at 11:46 am
No news is gut news
March 13th, 2013 at 11:46 am
What good would it do us to have Nnamdi Azzmuncher back?
March 13th, 2013 at 11:46 am
Free agent DT Pat Sims is visiting the Raiders.
After sitting out the first day of free agency, the Raiders are starting to make some calls. With Oakland’s front seven being decimated by releases and departures, Sims wouldn’t hurt for a role by the bay. Sims’ injury history would necessitate a back-up plan if he’s signed as a starter.
Related: Raiders
Source: Ian Rapoport on Twitte
March 13th, 2013 at 11:47 am
I know, stupid question…but do players ever sign with teams thinking their agent could get them better endorsement deals v. the price of the contract they sign?
I could see a guy like James Harrison playing up the bad guy persona wearing the silver and black and netting some serious dough? (Too much Kool-Aid?)
March 13th, 2013 at 11:48 am
BSJ: Ricky jean-Francois.
March 13th, 2013 at 11:48 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 11:46 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 11:34 am
vy has started in the playoffs right?
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Tim Tebow actually won in the playoffs, and didn’t want to quit at halftime.
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not sure why you want to argue about tebow being a better qb than vy
vy is a better passer and has more wins
tebow will never be a raider and better try out for the calgary stmpeders
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thought you like the option qb’s? young lead his team to the playoffs, so did tebow, what’s wrong with these guys as backups?
March 13th, 2013 at 11:48 am
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 11:44 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 11:04 am
Another offseason Bruce found work IMMEDIATELY, quicker than just about any other QB out there.
Should have kept him as or backup/vet mentor for 8 years.
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Did he sign with the Squeelers ?
Guess they didn’t forget Grads beating them.
Have always maintained Grads was better than JCantball.
RAID staff knew it too. That’s why Cantball got benched.
Too bad Gradkowski couldn’t stay healthy.
Wonder if Cantball gets any interest ? Good for Cantball that he had the smarts to grab some money from the Bears while he could.
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lmao
still bitter about this guys? so many years removed even?
jc beat grads in head to head competition then proceeded to post wins, something grads and palmer have been unable to do
your cookies are getting soggy from your tears
March 13th, 2013 at 11:49 am
broncos closing in with Wes Welker.
March 13th, 2013 at 11:49 am
Welker in serious talks with Dungver per Shefter.
March 13th, 2013 at 11:50 am
My vote for Reggie’s big FA: Ryan Leaf
March 13th, 2013 at 11:50 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/13/mutiny-may-have-been-a-factor-in-pollard-release/
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Just goes to show you, you don’t get Lombardi trophies for having the most harmonious locker room.
March 13th, 2013 at 11:50 am
inonewordraider Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 11:48 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 11:46 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 11:34 am
vy has started in the playoffs right?
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Tim Tebow actually won in the playoffs, and didn’t want to quit at halftime.
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not sure why you want to argue about tebow being a better qb than vy
vy is a better passer and has more wins
tebow will never be a raider and better try out for the calgary stmpeders
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thought you like the option qb’s? young lead his team to the playoffs, so did tebow, what’s wrong with these guys as backups?
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didnt you try and patrol the blog for no raider talk?
tebow isnt a raider so what gives hypocrite?
did you notice other followed and posted on dhb to buffalo news as well? why no comment to them loser?
tebow is garbage not the kind of qb i root for.
next
March 13th, 2013 at 11:50 am
Reggie’s BIG FA signing prediction list. Who will be the Raiders top FA signing this season:
John David Booty: Nnamdi Asomugha
Inonewordraider: Desmond Bryant
RediaR: Ryan Fitzpatrick OR Some UFA
Whoknows: A Guard on the Packers practice squad
Chris In NY: Mrs. Buttersworth
Marks Hair: 1 of those broken down Broncos
Jackasspuria: Adrian Wilson
RaidingTexas: Vince Young
DMAC: Adrian Wilson
Raiderinparadise: Donald Driver, Brett Favre, Charles Woodson
Just Fire Baby: Tim Tebow
Poprox13: Phillip Adams
Gdog: some dude off GB’s practice squad
303Raider: Nnamdi
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush): Nnamdi
Raider_D: Nnamdi
Bo Schembechler Jackson: Ricky jean-Francois
March 13th, 2013 at 11:51 am
Shefter is all over everything. He’s gonna tweet the name of the Pope before anyone you’ll see.
March 13th, 2013 at 11:51 am
The broncos are going to be so good.
March 13th, 2013 at 11:51 am
lmao coye francies covering welker…
March 13th, 2013 at 11:52 am
Adam Schefter@AdamSchefter
Detroit’s haul continues: Former Texans S Glover Quin reached agreement with the Lions.
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March 13th, 2013 at 11:52 am
Huff was designated a post June 1 cut, wonder what that does to the dead money?
March 13th, 2013 at 11:53 am
guest123 Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 11:51 am
Shefter is all over everything. He’s gonna tweet the name of the Pope before anyone you’ll see.
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lol
March 13th, 2013 at 11:54 am
Chris in NY Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 11:45 am
Serious question for the Reggie fans:
What makes you think his dumpsterdiving finds will be so much better in Year 2. Clearly that approach and his finds were an unmitigated dumpster fire in 2012. What will make 2013 (and beyond, for that matter) significantly different?-
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Well lst off, everyone was upset that Wheeler went, and Wheeler was one of those dumpster dives. Most of the guys he grabbed actually played fairly well for us including Goodson, Wheeler, Pat Lee, Phil Adams, Rod Streator. Even Criner and Burris seem to have hope. The reason Pat Lee is no longer here is he could cover fine, he just wouldn’t run defend the way they wanted.
The problem is not with McKenzie and Allen. The problem is we have a tire fire of biblical proportions going on here on all levels, and it is not going to put itself out.
March 13th, 2013 at 11:55 am
Reggie’s BIG FA signing prediction list. Who will be the Raiders top FA signing this season:
John David Booty: Nnamdi Asomugha
Inonewordraider: Desmond Bryant
RediaR: Ryan Fitzpatrick OR Some UFA
Whoknows: A Guard on the Packers practice squad
Chris In NY: Mrs. Buttersworth
Marks Hair: 1 of those broken down Broncos
Jackasspuria: Adrian Wilson
RaidingTexas: Vince Young
DMAC: Adrian Wilson
Raiderinparadise: Donald Driver, Brett Favre, Charles Woodson
Just Fire Baby: Tim Tebow
Poprox13: Phillip Adams
Gdog: some dude off GB’s practice squad
303Raider: Nnamdi
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush): Nnamdi
Raider_D: Nnamdi
Bo Schembechler Jackson: Ricky jean-Francois
DT42: Ryan Leaf
March 13th, 2013 at 11:55 am
Darren Connolly IV @DConnollyNFL
BREAKING: FS Dashon Goldson “not likely…less than 50%” signing with #Bucs #Bengals #49ers #Patriots and #RAIDERS in play #NFL #freeagency
March 13th, 2013 at 11:57 am
Report: The Raiders are in serious talks to join the CFL
March 13th, 2013 at 11:58 am
Broncos are trying to hammer out a deal with Welker…
March 13th, 2013 at 11:58 am
I predict that next year our biggest Free Agent signings will be Phillip Adams and Coye Francies again
March 13th, 2013 at 11:58 am
the cfl rejected their offer…
March 13th, 2013 at 11:59 am
ARENA FOOTBALL LEAGUE rejects the RAIDERS to join the LEAUGE
March 13th, 2013 at 11:59 am
HGDaddy Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 11:55 am
Darren Connolly IV @DConnollyNFL
BREAKING: FS Dashon Goldson “not likely…less than 50%” signing with #Bucs #Bengals #49ers #Patriots and #RAIDERS in play #NFL #freeagency
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This has already been deemed a fake twitter account, no?
March 13th, 2013 at 11:59 am
vy is a better passer and has more wins
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The best year the Titans had at 13-3 in 08, Kerry Collins was the starter and went 12-3. Young was benched.
March 13th, 2013 at 12:00 pm
Getting rid of Huff and getting Golston would be an upgrade.
March 13th, 2013 at 12:00 pm
tebow is garbage not the kind of qb i root for.
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But Joe Webb is, he meets the “criteria” apparently.
So you wouldn’t like the Raiders dumping Palmer, and letting TP and Tebow battle it out in a “space-aged” offense?
March 13th, 2013 at 12:00 pm
Woooohooooo! come on 2014!!! or maybe ‘15?!
Reggies big signing: Beanie Wells.
March 13th, 2013 at 12:01 pm
Why the heck not?
put me on your list for Dashon Goldson.
March 13th, 2013 at 12:01 pm
The Raiders are close to signing a 10 year deal to join the PAC-12
March 13th, 2013 at 12:01 pm
Wow, the guy at Spotrac just told me that the dead money for Huff goes down to about 3.5 mill this year. That puts us at about 21 mill in space.
March 13th, 2013 at 12:02 pm
Reggie is going to trade Carson to Az for picks. And we are gonna roll with Pryor, V .young , possibly Geno Smith. And the rest of the picks would be a 3-4 Defense draft. Depth through Rookie Free agents ie. Streater . Thats what I see Reggie doing. Have faith Raider Nation.
March 13th, 2013 at 12:02 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 12:00 pm
Getting rid of Huff and getting Golston would be an upgrade.
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Getting rid of Huff is already an upgrade.
March 13th, 2013 at 12:03 pm
http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/54048/steve-hutchinson-and-the-overlooked-value-of-guards-in-the-nfl
- trade down and pick up Warmack
March 13th, 2013 at 12:03 pm
bcz24 Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 12:01 pm
Wow, the guy at Spotrac just told me that the dead money for Huff goes down to about 3.5 mill this year. That puts us at about 21 mill in space.
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Thats what I’m talking bout’
Go get em’ Reggie!
March 13th, 2013 at 12:03 pm
raiderinparadise Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 12:01 pm
The Raiders are close to signing a 10 year deal to join the PAC-12
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At least that would give us a larger salary cap to work with.
March 13th, 2013 at 12:04 pm
If Vince Young signs you can almost call Palmers leaving a foregone conclusion. VY would sign for the vet minimum and Pryor would start.
March 13th, 2013 at 12:04 pm
Dashon Goldson agreed to terms on a 5 year deal with TB…
March 13th, 2013 at 12:05 pm
bcz24 Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 12:04 pm
Dashon Goldson agreed to terms on a 5 year deal with TB…
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We need to sign Adrian Wilson
Straight baller
March 13th, 2013 at 12:05 pm
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Former 49ers S Dashon Goldson agreed to terms on a five-year deal with Tampa Bay. Really. We’re sure.
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March 13th, 2013 at 12:05 pm
Wow, the guy at Spotrac just told me that the dead money for Huff goes down to about 3.5 mill this year. That puts us at about 21 mill in space.
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you been having conversations with sportrac? How did $16 mill turn into $21 mill?
March 13th, 2013 at 12:06 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 11:59 am
vy is a better passer and has more wins
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The best year the Titans had at 13-3 in 08, Kerry Collins was the starter and went 12-3. Young was benched.
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this has nothing to do with vy vs tebow
March 13th, 2013 at 12:06 pm
Lot of guys out there who can help this team.
Go get ‘em.
March 13th, 2013 at 12:06 pm
We are POSSIBLY working out VY, you guys are jumping way out to conclusions. He hasn’t even visited the building yet and suddenly he’s on the roster as our primary backup?
March 13th, 2013 at 12:06 pm
What we’re learning about McKenzie is that he walks softly and speaks carefully and moves deliberately — but decisively. His mini-purge on Tuesday is another example.
The signs are clear, the message loud. McKenzie used his broom, and he is not finished. The remaking of the Raiders, which became very necessary with the coaching change before last season, is officially under way.
Contact Monte Poole at mpoole@bayareanewsgroup.com. Follow him on Twitter at twitter.com/1montepoole.
March 13th, 2013 at 12:06 pm
Reggie’s BIG FA signing prediction list….Mine is he re-assigns his brother Raleigh to Guard. Got to match the great Brisel signing of last year.
March 13th, 2013 at 12:07 pm
2014 = 90+ mil free cap and only 18 players under contract minus TK and Rolando.
@ChrisHansenNFL
March 13th, 2013 at 12:07 pm
Reggie’s BIG FA signing prediction list. Who will be the Raiders top FA signing this season:
John David Booty: Nnamdi Asomugha
Inonewordraider: Desmond Bryant
RediaR: Ryan Fitzpatrick OR Some UFA
Whoknows: A Guard on the Packers practice squad
Chris In NY: Mrs. Buttersworth
Marks Hair: 1 of those broken down Broncos
Jackasspuria: Adrian Wilson
RaidingTexas: Vince Young
DMAC: Adrian Wilson
Raiderinparadise: Donald Driver, Brett Favre, Charles Woodson
Just Fire Baby: Tim Tebow
Poprox13: Phillip Adams
Gdog: some dude off GB’s practice squad
303Raider: Nnamdi
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush): Nnamdi
Raider_D: Nnamdi
Bo Schembechler Jackson: Ricky jean-Francois
DT42: Ryan Leaf
The_Judge37: Phillip Adams and Coye Francies
Carl Weathers: Beanie Wells
Guest123: Dashon Goldson
March 13th, 2013 at 12:07 pm
Nice signing by the Bucs.
March 13th, 2013 at 12:08 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 12:00 pm
tebow is garbage not the kind of qb i root for.
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But Joe Webb is, he meets the “criteria” apparently.
So you wouldn’t like the Raiders dumping Palmer, and letting TP and Tebow battle it out in a “space-aged” offense?
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webb is a better passer than tebow and a better runner
tebow cant run the offense im hoping for, because he cant throw the ball
still dont know why you are trying to force a debate over bobby douglass, i mean tebow
he stinks out loud
March 13th, 2013 at 12:08 pm
Joe Webb sure as he!! ain’t the kind of QB I root for.
Hot garbage would be an upgrade.
March 13th, 2013 at 12:08 pm
poprox13 Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 11:59 am
HGDaddy Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 11:55 am
Darren Connolly IV @DConnollyNFL
BREAKING: FS Dashon Goldson “not likely…less than 50%” signing with #Bucs #Bengals #49ers #Patriots and #RAIDERS in play #NFL #freeagency
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This has already been deemed a fake twitter account, no?
- not sure if it’s fake or not but he was the first to report RAIDERS and VYoung interest before PFT and @RapSheet did.
March 13th, 2013 at 12:09 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 12:02 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 12:00 pm
Getting rid of Huff and getting Golston would be an upgrade.
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Stuart Schewgiert would be an upgrade over Huff
March 13th, 2013 at 12:09 pm
Did he sign with the Squeelers ?
Guess they didn’t forget Grads beating them.
Have always maintained Grads was better than JCantball.
RAID staff knew it too. That’s why Cantball got benched.
Too bad Gradkowski couldn’t stay healthy.
Wonder if Cantball gets any interest ? Good for Cantball that he had the smarts to grab some money from the Bears while he could.
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lmao
still bitter about this guys? so many years removed even?
jc beat grads in head to head competition then proceeded to post wins, something grads and palmer have been unable to do
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Nope, you got it reversed.
Just like you had it reversed when you claimed Cantball came off the bench to beat the Rams after Gradkoski sucked it up in the first half.
Exactly the opposite was true.
The facts show that JC lost his job to BG and only got it back due to BG getting injured.
In fact, the RAIDS were still looking to bench JC after he pissed his pants in Pittsburgh.
That’s why a still not ready BG was rushed back to play against Miami.
JC only kept his job bcz AD got tired of BG being made of glass.
March 13th, 2013 at 12:11 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 11:39 am
Vince Young might be the only QB who ISN’T much of an upgrade from Leinart.
“Can’t nobody tell me nothing”
-Vince Young, on 60 minutes
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14 on his Wonderlic.
March 13th, 2013 at 12:20 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
tebow is garbage not the kind of qb i root for.
next
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Uncerimoniously, Miss Tick throws away the ‘Wins are all that matter’ argument.
March 13th, 2013 at 12:22 pm
Hope McK can sign some vets at a low price.
March 13th, 2013 at 12:26 pm
Glen Dorsey to the whiners, there goes a potential replacement for Des
March 13th, 2013 at 12:31 pm
Vince Young, psssshaw. Might as well call Vince Evans.
Or Vince Price.
March 13th, 2013 at 12:44 pm
Dorsey is garbage. Not a difference maker…
March 13th, 2013 at 1:11 pm
HGDaddy Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 12:03 pm
- trade down and pick up Warmack
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If both of these happen I will officially jump back on the Reggie bandwagon.
March 13th, 2013 at 1:15 pm
HGDaddy Says:
March 13th, 2013 at 12:03 pm
- trade down and pick up Warmack
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We have so many holes to fill that a trade down would be amazing. Hopefully Geno Smith generates enough buzz by himself coupled with the fact that philly worked him out it may scare some team into jumping in front to get him.
March 13th, 2013 at 2:32 pm
BTW, for those upset about Wheeler and Bryant leaving, they received RIDICULOUS contracts by their respective new teams. I can almost gaurantee they’ll both end up getting cut in 2-3 seasons
March 13th, 2013 at 2:45 pm
McKenzie is trying to see if Tyler Brayton can come in for a workout.
March 14th, 2013 at 4:09 pm
Raiderinparadise Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 4:03 pm
@radio
The cap issue is a bunch of nonsense. Reggie is using that as a excuse. It pure BS. It’s not the cap it’s how you work the cap.
Add Palmer, McClain, and Kelly with the other cuts that have happened and the Raiders would have a little over $35 million in “REAL” cap space right frickin now. You Reggie apologist are pathetic.
Reggie has no clue what he is doing.
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and if kelly, palmer, mcclain dont take restructures, you cut them and it would be 50+ million is dead money you IDIOT.
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Wrong, the Raiders currently have $32 mil in dead money. It would not go up $18 million more.
Colts have $38 mil in dead money. So what…….
March 15th, 2013 at 2:51 pm
Most of the players going elsewhere are getting out of whack contracts. Miami’s Jeff Ireland is the “new” Al Davis of free agency, over spending!!! We need to slash and cut in order to start over. For 10 years we have tried to add a guy here and there every year, over paying, giving away draft picks. The raiders were beyond adding a couple of key players to get over the top. What’s happening is what has GOT to happen. In 3 years when we are odds on favorites for the Super Bowl everybody will be back on the bandwagon….