Raiders at West Virginia pro day; eyeing Smith?
By Steve Corkran
Thursday, March 14th, 2013 at 2:13 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The Raiders were one of 29 teams with a representative at the workout of West Virginia players on Thursday.
That fuels speculation that the Raiders are considering West Virginia quarterback Geno Smith with the No. 3 pick in the NFL draft late next month.
Smith is regarded as the top quarterback prospect in this year’s draft, though many draft analysts aren’t certain any of the quarterbacks are worthy of being selected early in the first round.
The Raiders have Carson Palmer and Terrelle Pryor under contract. However, it’s conceivable that the Raiders release or trade Palmer, draft Smith and add a cheaper veteran through free agency.
It’s also possible that the Raiders are showing interest in Smith only as a means of increasing their leverage for a potential deal with a team interested in trading up for the No. 3 pick so that it can be assured of getting Smith.
Smith completed 71.2 percent of his passes for 4,205 yards and 42 touchdowns, while being intercepted only six times in 518 pass attempts.
The Raiders also got a chance to take a long look at West Virginia wide receiver Tavon Austin, regarded by many as a first-round prospect.
The release of receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey on Tuesday leaves the Raiders thin at that position. Austin is viewed as a potential big-play receiver.
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March 14th, 2013 at 2:15 pm
La Primera still Lives
March 14th, 2013 at 2:15 pm
Just do it, and thank me later
March 14th, 2013 at 2:15 pm
Too $hort
March 14th, 2013 at 2:15 pm
From Twitter:
Paul Gutierrez
“Laughable.” – voice of the #Raiders Greg Papa, on notion of Terrelle Pryor beginning season as @RAIDERS starting quarterback
March 14th, 2013 at 2:16 pm
realtruraider Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 2:15 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 2:05 pm
LOL, yeah because the Eagles have ben so much better than us the last few years. Its all about the money and in his case a chance to start, which he wasn’t gtting with Ravens
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truth hurts
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The truth is its all about the MONEY, don’t get it twisted man. If Reggie would of out bid for any of these corners they would be Raiders.
Im not as down on Reggie as some in here, but to blame it on the “no one wants to play here excuse” is only a fkin excuse, as I have said before Im in a wait and see mode on Reggie and obviously he is doing this the “Packer Way”, so lets wait and see, but no need to make excuses for him not signing players because they “don’t want to play here” thats just BS
March 14th, 2013 at 2:18 pm
The truth is its all about the MONEY, don’t get it twisted man. If Reggie would of out bid for any of these corners they would be Raiders.
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exactly some are out just to get PAID.. just like WARREN SAPP was.. he didnt give one darn about the Raiders or AL he just lvoed his money even by his own admission.
Thats why he talked crap about the raiders after saying thats why any only ever came to the Raiders. Reggie doesnt want to many guys like that
March 14th, 2013 at 2:18 pm
Al took fast DVD 3rd round
Seattle took Richard Sherman 5th round.
Dvd cant even tackle
March 14th, 2013 at 2:19 pm
Sir RaiderDuck, OMS Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 2:15 pm
From Twitter:
Paul Gutierrez
“Laughable.” – voice of the #Raiders Greg Papa, on notion of Terrelle Pryor beginning season as @RAIDERS starting quarterback
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Ouch…..but I don’t put much stock in papas opinion.
March 14th, 2013 at 2:19 pm
Mcskinnnylegs Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 2:17 pm
yo fellas check my tweet to phillip wheeler.u like?
Rasta-Raider@rastaraider1
@Philgood50 have fun getting exposed by tom brady! #overpaid
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Why be nasty about it? I tweeted him a couple of days ago and just wished him well, except when he plays us of course. Miami offered him more $$$ than we did. What was he supposed to do? Say no?
March 14th, 2013 at 2:19 pm
From Twitter:
Paul Gutierrez
“Laughable.” – voice of the #Raiders Greg Papa, on notion of Terrelle Pryor beginning season as @RAIDERS starting quarterback
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not as much as Palmer being a starter on this team.
March 14th, 2013 at 2:19 pm
I will say this. Im just trying to put a positive spin on all of this. WE ARE STUCK WITH REGGIE.
Its sad watching the AL DAVIS life and them showing that last Texans game at the end of the DOCUMENTARY. WE had something good going on.. and before PALMER came.
im talking with JCampbell as our Qb and all the WR’s loving him.. dmac.. balling.. WIMBLEY creating pressure.. HUFF INT at the end.
That team will never be the same
March 14th, 2013 at 2:19 pm
and dont get it twisted.. im not a fan of DA yet.. he hasnt proven jack shiz.. he is still a buck PRIVATE as far as im concerned
March 14th, 2013 at 2:20 pm
that wasnt nasty#9.sometimes the truth hurts
March 14th, 2013 at 2:20 pm
I’m still waiting Jhill, since my list was soo damn funny let me see your brilliant response..
March 14th, 2013 at 2:20 pm
never was a fan of wheeler dude is way overrated
March 14th, 2013 at 2:21 pm
FIRE REGGIE NOW.
March 14th, 2013 at 2:21 pm
YO THE BEEECH DIGGITY N FULL EFFECT
Free agency in the hizzy, y’all
To celebrate all the action, the Dawg humped 2 nubian strippers directly in the poop chute bareback-style
Now the Lawg needs to soak in a frozen Daiquiri for the rest of the day to recover
Yo, when’s Phat Boi Reggie gonna wise up and max out Ray Lewis? We’ll be 14-2 with just his pregame dance and pump up speech
So what if he can’t play, with Ray Ray bouncing up and down on the sidelines we’ll run the Statue of Liberty to perfection
Cry now, thank the Dawg later
JUST HOW THEM BIG DAWG BARK< MEOW
March 14th, 2013 at 2:21 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 2:18 pm
Al took fast DVD 3rd round
Seattle took Richard Sherman 5th round.
Dvd cant even tackle
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Al spent a third-round pick on a fast CB with no coverage skills WHO DIDN’T EVEN START IN COLLEGE. Reggie wouldn’t have spent a third-rounder on DVD in a million years.
March 14th, 2013 at 2:23 pm
The “no one wants to play here” line is a total crock of s#$%! There are only 32 teams in the greatest professional sports organization in the world and a limited number of jobs (53) for each. If you’re a dreamer, and a baller, you don’t give a F where you play, you simply want to play. The fact that the division we’re in is really winnable by any of the four teams, why wouldn’t a body want to come to Oakland? I guarantee you that playing anywhere in Cali is more pleasant than playing in Buffalo or Cleveland. Too many haters out there because we finally had to blow things up – I say, “It’s about damn time we did something radical!”
March 14th, 2013 at 2:23 pm
Alright guys…see you all in the AM!
March 14th, 2013 at 2:23 pm
DVD=no ball awareness
March 14th, 2013 at 2:24 pm
The “no one wants to play here” line is a total crock of s#$%! There are only 32 teams in the greatest professional sports organization in the world and a limited number of jobs
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no really.. Premire FA’s can play anywhere. SEAN SMITH.. being offerend 20 million.
Reggie offers 18- or even 20. Smith chooses queefs to play with that defense and all their “pro bowlers”
March 14th, 2013 at 2:24 pm
0-16 will be radical.
March 14th, 2013 at 2:25 pm
Paul Gutierrez @PGutierrezCSN
“Laughable.” – voice of the #Raiders Greg Papa, on notion of Terrelle Pryor beginning season as @Raiders starting quarterback
March 14th, 2013 at 2:25 pm
damn, Nnam and Woodson could both be 9ers soon, I know they are passed there prime but it will still sting a lil. Oh what could of ben
March 14th, 2013 at 2:26 pm
RE Post #11:
Agreed, but too late to turn back now. Better days ahead, but ti’s going to take a little more time …
March 14th, 2013 at 2:26 pm
Jhill name one player he’s brought in better than them
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I like Ross and Adams. I liked DVD too, but his lack of physicality supporting the run was an issue. I think we should have kept him.
I liked Des Bryanat too. But I don’t know that he was worth what we paid him. I think the GM and HC have a better idea having had him for a year.
Let’s take Richard Gordan, for example. I think that dude is a BEAST! Should clearly be the starter for a run oriented team like we say we are. But Non blocking arsse Myers get the starts. I don’t translate that “disagreement” with the HC and GM as them being trash, man.
Bryant just got signed a day or so ago. Let’s see if we get someone decent to replace him.
March 14th, 2013 at 2:26 pm
http://a.espncdn.com/media/motion/2012/0908/dm_120908_cgd_sumlin_convo/dm_120908_cgd_sumlin_convo.jpg
The man that should be the next Head Coach in Oakland
March 14th, 2013 at 2:26 pm
Jhill, I would take DVD over Bartell right now and the money we wasted getting him. Huff while too expensive who has he brought in worth replacing him?
The point is none of those players are likely to make the HOF but they provided depth and talent at the very least. But now we need to use draft picks to replace them……..WHY!
Because that idiot got rid of them without a solid plan to replace them adequately.
March 14th, 2013 at 2:27 pm
Fire Reggie!
March 14th, 2013 at 2:27 pm
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 2:24 pm
0-16 will be radical.
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Gnarly
March 14th, 2013 at 2:27 pm
29/32 teams visit WVU pro day and that fuels the Geno to Oakland fire.
March 14th, 2013 at 2:27 pm
Reggie offers 18- or even 20. Smith chooses queefs to play with that defense and all their “pro bowlers”
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Oh C’MON MAN, that dude was obviously all about the money, if Reggie offered more he is on of the many players that would choose the money over anything else
March 14th, 2013 at 2:28 pm
It’s the Raiders’ fault that Nnam got away in the first place; can’t blame the guy for going to what he perceives as the best situation for the most money he can get. Bet he regrets signing with the Beagles, however!
March 14th, 2013 at 2:29 pm
One of 29 teams………and that’s fueling speculation………..okay
March 14th, 2013 at 2:30 pm
Oh C’MON MAN, that dude was obviously all about the money, if Reggie offered more he is on of the many players that would choose the money over anything else
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exactly which why spending money on high prices FA’s is a waste..
March 14th, 2013 at 2:31 pm
My belief is that the Raiders are just trying to position themselves for a tradedown. Almost every team is being represented at the WV pro day. Geno ain’t the only guy there, by the way!!
March 14th, 2013 at 2:32 pm
Raiders are gonna draft a good corner
March 14th, 2013 at 2:32 pm
Raiderduck you are right Al missed on DVD but he hit on veldeer in the 3rd,branch in the 4th,Moore in the 5th while criner is no moss and brisell is a free agent bust.at least we are 10 years from a Super Bowl appearance,I don’t think Reggie will ever see a super bowl with his discount bargains.
March 14th, 2013 at 2:32 pm
Raiders NEED to draft a good corner!!
March 14th, 2013 at 2:33 pm
34.raidertbone Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 2:28 pm
It’s the Raiders’ fault that Nnam got away in the first place; can’t blame the guy for going to what he perceives as the best situation for the most money he can get. Bet he regrets signing with the Beagles, however!
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Are you saying that Al should have outbid the Eagles?
Nnamdi wanted to play for a team that had a shot, and he wanted to get paid. I doubt anyone thought they’d have the year they did, but he did get that fat contract.
Can you imagine if we had his new contract on the books as well? I doubt even Reggie would have taken the job, lol.
March 14th, 2013 at 2:33 pm
Where will the leadership come from?
A bunch of camp fodder and some rookies?
I guess you don’t need leadership when you are throwing in the towel in MARCH.
MARK DAVIS IS A DISGRACE.
March 14th, 2013 at 2:33 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 2:32 pm
Raiders are gonna draft a good corner
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Better get three the size of LB’s because their gonna have to tackle RB’s in the secondary!!!
March 14th, 2013 at 2:33 pm
Criner is a 5th round draft pick and lets see him this year.
March 14th, 2013 at 2:34 pm
Better get three the size of LB’s because their gonna have to tackle RB’s in the secondary!!!
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talk to me in july after FA is over and the draft.. or waiver wire cuts too. cant be worse then last year.. especially when we had “34 million dollar man” Desmond Bryant.. .and 26 million dollar man “Philip wheeler
March 14th, 2013 at 2:35 pm
Chuck:
Don’t forget about Murphy and Ford (both fourth rounders) – I think it was a mistake gettin’ rid of Murphy. One of the biggest puzzles of the last few years was how long the Raiders hung on to Glass Schilens!!
March 14th, 2013 at 2:35 pm
Interesting Reggie assembled talent in green bay.
But no one give him a chance in oak, i guess since his first season his first draft pick was a 3rd rounder and his pockets are empty.
Idiots.
wait
March 14th, 2013 at 2:36 pm
37.raidertbone Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 2:31 pm
My belief is that the Raiders are just trying to position themselves for a tradedown. Almost every team is being represented at the WV pro day. Geno ain’t the only guy there, by the way!!
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Steadman Bailey. Overshadowed by Austin and Geno Smith. Not a big guy, but he’s a football player and if used correctly could have an impact for the team that takes him.
March 14th, 2013 at 2:36 pm
Hill Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 2:26 pm
Jhill name one player he’s brought in better than them
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I like Ross and Adams. I liked DVD too, but his lack of physicality supporting the run was an issue. I think we should have kept him.
I liked Des Bryanat too. But I don’t know that he was worth what we paid him. I think the GM and HC have a better idea having had him for a year.
Let’s take Richard Gordan, for example. I think that dude is a BEAST! Should clearly be the starter for a run oriented team like we say we are. But Non blocking arsse Myers get the starts. I don’t translate that “disagreement” with the HC and GM as them being trash, man.
Bryant just got signed a day or so ago. Let’s see if we get someone decent to replace him.
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Jhill, LOL Ross are you kidding me? he stinks! They better have a better idea but based on their track record I don’t see it. Sims don’t make me laugh. They didn’t bring Richard Gordon Mr Davis did.
So like I said they haven’t done anything but trim and waste money on GARBAGE……….thanks for listening!
March 14th, 2013 at 2:37 pm
raiderinparadise Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 2:35 pm
Interesting Reggie assembled talent in green bay.
But no one give him a chance in oak, i guess since his first season his first draft pick was a 3rd rounder and his pockets are empty.
Idiots.
wait
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Really? I though he was a scout. He drafted anyone in his life till last year?
March 14th, 2013 at 2:38 pm
Let’s see what kind of magic Reggie can whip up, once the draft is done and all the training camp cuts hit. He hasn’t really had the chance to do his full job yet, this season. Talk to me once the 53-man roster is set.
March 14th, 2013 at 2:38 pm
Raiderinparadise Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 2:35 pm
Interesting Reggie assembled talent in green bay.
But no one give him a chance in oak, i guess since his first season his first draft pick was a 3rd rounder and his pockets are empty.
Idiots.
wait
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“You just need some patience…” Greg Knapp
March 14th, 2013 at 2:39 pm
Teach:
Exactly!
March 14th, 2013 at 2:39 pm
raidertbone Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 2:38 pm
Let’s see what kind of magic Reggie can whip up, once the draft is done and all the training camp cuts hit. He hasn’t really had the chance to do his full job yet, this season. Talk to me once the 53-man roster is set.
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To late to do anything else. The fire Reggie now chants can resume then.
March 14th, 2013 at 2:40 pm
I’d rther have DVD thn any of the DBs Reggie has signed or is supposedly eyeing.
It’s funny how some of you mock Al by sying “Reggie would never do that.” Well, tht’s fukking fantastic. You know what’s not? Reggie’s record as GM. It’s 4-12. Let’s see if it gets any better in year 2. He’ll need to go 12-4 just to mtch the team’s record from the two years prior to his arrival.
Plese just keep that in mind.
March 14th, 2013 at 2:40 pm
I would rather have Adams and Hanson over DVD, that isn’t even debatable, IMO.
And I’ll take Bergs and Nix over Barksdale and Campbell. Hell, I might still take Willie Smith over Campbell.
March 14th, 2013 at 2:40 pm
raiderfankirk Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 2:37 pm
raiderinparadise Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 2:35 pm
Interesting Reggie assembled talent in green bay.
But no one give him a chance in oak, i guess since his first season his first draft pick was a 3rd rounder and his pockets are empty.
Idiots.
wait
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Really? I though he was a scout. He drafted anyone in his life till last year?
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sorry thank you head talent scouts have nothing to do with draft picks.
Nick taushcer and Donald driver both were 7th round picks that reggie was heavily in on. fyi.
March 14th, 2013 at 2:40 pm
branch maiava burris houston= guys that play that play their a$$es off
March 14th, 2013 at 2:40 pm
he was president of football operations when he became our GM. he started off as a scout and worked his way up.
March 14th, 2013 at 2:41 pm
“Smith is regarded as the top quarterback prospect in this year’s draft, though many draft analysts aren’t certain any of the quarterbacks are worthy of being selected early in the first round”.
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Keep up Cork, After todays proday all the “experts” are sayin he is a top 10 lock and even the Jags being considered as possibilty as are the Raiders, Eagles, Browns, Buffalo, Arizona.
I told people awhile to go to wait until after combine and prodays before ya’ll write off anyone wanting to trade up for a QB. Im not a Barkley fan, but Im sure even his stock will rise way up after he shows off that pop gun arm of his
March 14th, 2013 at 2:41 pm
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March 14th, 2013 at 2:42 pm
the reggie haters are so stupid and frustarting i cant even enjoy this blog anymore.
hate carson.
hate reggie.
hate this and that.
but love pryor.
lmao.
pathetic
March 14th, 2013 at 2:43 pm
NGRaiderfan Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 2:40 pm
he was president of football operations when he became our GM. he started off as a scout and worked his way up.
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Yes impute. Not drafting.
March 14th, 2013 at 2:43 pm
Like the guys we’re bringing in. I see good value and a lot of upside.
March 14th, 2013 at 2:43 pm
not president, director of football operations
March 14th, 2013 at 2:43 pm
Geno will take us to 7-9, 8-8 territory next year, and a year from now this blog will be buzzing with eager anticipation to the 2014 season.
March 14th, 2013 at 2:44 pm
Geno Smith = Akili Smith
March 14th, 2013 at 2:44 pm
once these sad pathetic haters see the moves working and a “team” ebing built with wise money choices and draft picks, then you guys willl hate the raiders for winning.
your not fans.
your pathetic haters, sad, insecure haters that fingerpoint.
your not a fan if you dont have faith, belief and a commitment, corny but the truth.
March 14th, 2013 at 2:44 pm
Like i said before, we all just hope Reggie knows what he’s doing. But he’s never done this before. He learned from Ron Wolfe, who learned from Al Davis.
March 14th, 2013 at 2:45 pm
raidertbone Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 2:43 pm
Like the guys we’re bringing in. I see good value and a lot of upside.
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smart fan
March 14th, 2013 at 2:45 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 2:40 pm
Hell, I might still take Willie Smith over Campbell.
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I’d take a traffic cone over Willie Smith
March 14th, 2013 at 2:46 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 2:43 pm
Geno will take us to 7-9, 8-8 territory next year, and a year from now this blog will be buzzing with eager anticipation to the 2014 season.
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I can see that happening, because Carson is probably asking for restructure to help the team and release, because of the Bengalesk front office moves he wanted to get away from.
March 14th, 2013 at 2:46 pm
raiderfankirk Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 2:43 pm
NGRaiderfan Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 2:40 pm
he was president of football operations when he became our GM. he started off as a scout and worked his way up.
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Yes impute. Not drafting.
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impute? wowwwwwwwww
you really are an idiot.
I actually laughed out loud at my desk
March 14th, 2013 at 2:47 pm
rediaR Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 2:45 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 2:40 pm
Hell, I might still take Willie Smith over Campbell.
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I’d take a traffic cone over Willie Smith
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Mario Henderson and his pistol provide better protection than Willie Smith
March 14th, 2013 at 2:47 pm
I’m still waiting Jhill,
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My bad.
At work.
March 14th, 2013 at 2:48 pm
Just say no….
To Geno
March 14th, 2013 at 2:49 pm
JFB,
Bsed on what? Campbell looked solid in preseason appearances in his two seasons here but little else to say for sure. Willie Smith got beat like a drum. Bergstrom and Nix have barely seen the field. Wht are you basing your high opinion of those guys on and low opinion of Campbell and Barksdale, other than bias toward the new regime founded on blind faith?
March 14th, 2013 at 2:49 pm
one thing to remember is how early the off-season is, there is a draft, with trades possible and camps where youcan bring in these things called undrafted FA …
guys like streater ….
sure Al, found Moore & Ford, Murphy late rounds, streater wasn’t even drafted, caught 12 balls his senior year and is our #1 going into season.
ummmmm?
yea.
March 14th, 2013 at 2:49 pm
raiderinparadise Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 2:46 pm
raiderfankirk Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 2:43 pm
NGRaiderfan Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 2:40 pm
he was president of football operations when he became our GM. he started off as a scout and worked his way up.
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Yes impute. Not drafting.
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impute? wowwwwwwwww
you really are an idiot.
I actually laughed out loud at my desk
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Because you thought he made all the draft selections? LMFAO right back at you buddy.
March 14th, 2013 at 2:50 pm
but then again streater was just found by a guy giving “impute” lmao
March 14th, 2013 at 2:50 pm
In other news:
NFL may abandon tuck rule
“A proposal from the NFL’s competition committee suggests the NFL abandon the infamous “tuck rule,” which gained popularity during a New England Patriots playoff win over the Oakland Raiders in January 2002.
Under the proposed rule change, a quarterback who loses control of the football when bringing it back to his body after a pump fake will be deemed to have fumbled. Under the current rule, such a play would result in an incompletion.
In the 2002 playoff game, that was the case when Patriots quarterback Tom Brady was hit from behind by Raiders cornerback Charles Woodson. A video review overturned the call of a fumble, which prolonged the Patriots’ drive. New England came from behind to win the game and went on to win Super Bowl XXXVI.
The league owners will vote on this and five other proposed rule changes at the NFL owners meetings, which run from Sunday through Wednesday.”
March 14th, 2013 at 2:51 pm
I think B Campbell’s only down side was that he is to nice to be a mauler.
March 14th, 2013 at 2:51 pm
Raiderfankirk Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 2:46 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 2:43 pm
Geno will take us to 7-9, 8-8 territory next year, and a year from now this blog will be buzzing with eager anticipation to the 2014 season.
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I can see that happening, because Carson is probably asking for restructure to help the team and release, because of the Bengalesk front office moves he wanted to get away from.
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I can’t, because both the team and Geno would have to get significantly better. One less first round talent on the team.
March 14th, 2013 at 2:51 pm
I’d take a traffic cone over Willie Smith
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Probably so, but I would take both over Bruce Campbell.
Here is what I remember of Bruce Campbell’s Raiders playing career (actual on the field stuff instead of this pie in the sky theories everyone always had with him):
-Getting 3 holding penalties IN ONE SERIES of a preseason game against Seattle’s 4th string
-Going in on goalline as an extra TE in the Bills game, and apparently forgetting the snap count as he never moved. Basically the same thing Barnes did last year in Cincy just on the goalline.
-Never being active on gameday once Al passed
When he went to Carolina, the Panthers blog cited he fell in the draft due to a “brain issue”. Seriously, and they weren’t being funny. They never elaborated but I seriously think Bruce Campbell is “special”.
March 14th, 2013 at 2:52 pm
my “impute” is that reggie is doing what he can within budget.
March 14th, 2013 at 2:52 pm
RaidO Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 2:50 pm
In other news:
NFL may abandon tuck rule
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They do this every year and it never makes it far.
March 14th, 2013 at 2:52 pm
Greg papa ?!?!?!
greg papa is an idiot and a clear pryor hater, he was also a jc hater…coincidence?
he sounded like an idiot in week 17 as he could barley bring himself to acknowledge what pryor was doing on the field with only a wekk of 1/2 reps in practice, after not paying for nearly two years.
He struggled to get of his customary ‘td raiders’ call when tp dazzled bought time and turned dmo 17 and dhb back into dangerous weapons.
he stammered stutered and nearly dropped dead as pryor eluded tacklers and used his blaizng 4.3 speed to make the number 11 defense look like the okaland dynamites pee wee team.
papa nearly shid his pants when pryor took command and threw goodson to the ground as if he was a 10 year pro with super bowl trophies. then papa watched in disdain tainted uncomfortable awe as the radier team clealry responded to the human defibrillator pryor looking like they used to look when jc was here.
The team ready to run through walls for pryor in a way we havent seen since papas golden haired hero came aboard.
Phuck papa he is full of shid
March 14th, 2013 at 2:52 pm
So like I said they haven’t done anything but trim and waste money on GARBAGE
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If you agree that they trimmed garbage, what are we going back and forth on?
And if you are specifically looking for who they brought in that was better than the players you listed, my bad, I didn’t answer that.
Streater = better than Murphy
Goodson = about the same as Bush talent wise for a backup RB
Barksdale and Bruce Campbell = Willie Smith = ALL Garbage = wash
DVD = Adams. Adams is WAY better
I see Ross as a S, by the way. Tarver and Allen disagree with you that he stinks, by the way.
March 14th, 2013 at 2:53 pm
I know some of you are of the opinion I’m on some bash reggie campaign and it’s far fromm that. I’m trying as hard as I can to believe in him. But when he makes senseless moves like he makes it just hits me in my gut.
I can’t understand what he is doing bring in these players he’s bringing in. Terrnce Newman? why even do that?
That just smacks of stupidity. It sends up all kinds of red flags and tells me he just doesn’t knwo the league. There are way too many young talented kids taht can be developed around the league to be bring in garbage like that. Bartell and Spencer….lol we were way better off staying the course. But when I said that last year you guys were in here throwing parties over that garbage batch.
Reggie lucks upon players rather than executing some astute plan to biuld this team “the right way”. He is all smoke and no fire. From the coach to the talent he just blows smoke………period
March 14th, 2013 at 2:53 pm
According to the Packers,
“McKenzie oversees Green Bay’s scouting efforts of all professional football leagues, including the NFL, CFL and Arena Football League, as well as all other pro leagues and international players. He also plays an integral role in judging the Packers’ current players and evaluating potential free agents across the league. McKenzie is heavily involved in all of the team’s moves on a daily basis, including all tryouts and transactions.”
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IMPUTE
March 14th, 2013 at 2:53 pm
We want football players, not overpaid, lazy, prima donnas. The Al Davis era is over. For those of you who can’t move on, go root for another team. In Reggie, I trust.
March 14th, 2013 at 2:53 pm
raiderinparadise Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 2:50 pm
but then again streater was just found by a guy giving “impute” lmao
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One of his FIRST free agent signings, BECAUSE he never did if BEFORE he was HERE. Only gave his IMPUTE. FACT!!!
March 14th, 2013 at 2:53 pm
Even ‘ol “mop handle” would provide better protection than Willie Smith!
March 14th, 2013 at 2:55 pm
rediaR Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 2:51 pm
Raiderfankirk Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 2:46 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 2:43 pm
Geno will take us to 7-9, 8-8 territory next year, and a year from now this blog will be buzzing with eager anticipation to the 2014 season.
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I can see that happening, because Carson is probably asking for restructure to help the team and release, because of the Bengalesk front office moves he wanted to get away from.
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I can’t, because both the team and Geno would have to get significantly better. One less first round talent on the team.
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I don’t want Palmer gone. Just saying he probably see’s the writting on the wall.
March 14th, 2013 at 2:55 pm
I’d rther have DVD thn any of the DBs Reggie has signed or is supposedly eyeing.
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Really???
I liked DVD too. WAY better prospect than Francies, imo. But Adams is a better overall football player. Run support is pretty important, man.
March 14th, 2013 at 2:55 pm
Regarding an earlier conversation we had about Joe Flacco – I think this photo sums it all up:
http://i.imgur.com/d6jKdSh.jpg
March 14th, 2013 at 2:55 pm
SBreport @SBreport
No wonder Oakland didn’t sign him. That’s no bargain. @caplannfl: Barwin deal is 6 yrs/$36 million with max of $40 M, source confirmed.
March 14th, 2013 at 2:56 pm
Yeah, just like Hiram Eugene used to support the run!!
March 14th, 2013 at 2:56 pm
87. I rarely agree with you, but you make a good point. All those years Papa was claiming we had a great D Line. His opinions are very poor, at times.
March 14th, 2013 at 2:57 pm
D Moore, Reece, McFadden, Ford, Gordon. Ausberry, Branch, Houston, Chekwa ….
I love my AL Davis players too!!!
March 14th, 2013 at 2:57 pm
RE 96:
I don’t understand the photo – after all, the bleachers are still there!
March 14th, 2013 at 2:57 pm
raidertbone Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 2:53 pm
Even ‘ol “mop handle” would provide better protection than Willie Smith!
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Don’t see why they did’nt give one of the young guy’s a chance. If Smith was better than them, then we got real O line depth problems.
March 14th, 2013 at 2:57 pm
one thing thats important in life, is to not judge prior to results.
if oak goes say…. 10-6 and gets a wildcard, what will the haters do?
CP3 plays very well, running game back with dmac….
new d players produced beyond paychecks….
oh no!
Then the haters will…. ???????
March 14th, 2013 at 2:58 pm
J Hill – don’t forget about Seabass and Shane!
March 14th, 2013 at 2:58 pm
I see value. But no upside.. we wont be compeditive.. but at least the cap excuse will be over this yr.. as I’ve been saying for well over a year.. rebuild
March 14th, 2013 at 2:59 pm
I can’t understand what he is doing bring in these players he’s bringing in. Terrnce Newman? why even do that?
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Because we need a veteran.
Chekwa, Jones, and Adams are enough “young guys”. Plus we’ll probably pick one up in the draft.
March 14th, 2013 at 2:59 pm
He struggled to get of his customary ‘td raiders’ call when tp dazzled bought time and turned dmo 17 and dhb back into dangerous weapons.
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That’s because the next play was an onside kick and then the game was over.
He didn’t go crazy when Palmer threw the same type of garbage time TD to Myers against Cleveland.
What kind of announcer goes crazy for a TD when your losing, with little time on the clock?
That makes zero sense.
And I don’t like Papa either, but let’s be real here.
March 14th, 2013 at 2:59 pm
RE Post 103:
… pin all the blame on Cable and Hue
March 14th, 2013 at 3:00 pm
J Hill – don’t forget about Seabass and Shane!
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Right!
Would love to have Shane back, but not for 6 million, lol.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:00 pm
raiderinparadise Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 2:57 pm
one thing thats important in life, is to not judge prior to results.
if oak goes say…. 10-6 and gets a wildcard, what will the haters do?
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I will love it, and change my tune.
If we go 4-12 again, what excuse will you give this time?
March 14th, 2013 at 3:00 pm
J Hill,
While we’re cherry picking …
Murphy, Ford, Moore and Shilens = better than Criner.
DVD and Chekwa = Way better than broken down DBs on the wrong side of 30 for a rebu ilding team.
Hue = way better than Allen
Satele = Way better than Brisiel
March 14th, 2013 at 3:00 pm
That’s because the next play was an onside kick and then the game was over.
He didn’t go crazy when Palmer threw the same type of garbage time TD to Myers against Cleveland.
What kind of announcer goes crazy for a TD when your losing, with little time on the clock?
That makes zero sense.
And I don’t like Papa either, but let’s be real here.
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I was at the game and all the Raider fans were going nuts.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:01 pm
Papa needs to take a long vacation to Cabo
March 14th, 2013 at 3:02 pm
I was at the game and all the Raider fans were going nuts.
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Nuts??
That’s pretty stupid, with all due respect.
Scoring a 10 yard TD down 24-14 with a minute left deserves a golf clap at best, no matter, who, what and where is involved.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:03 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:00 pm
raiderinparadise Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 2:57 pm
one thing thats important in life, is to not judge prior to results.
if oak goes say…. 10-6 and gets a wildcard, what will the haters do?
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I will love it, and change my tune.
If we go 4-12 again, what excuse will you give this time?
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LMAO
March 14th, 2013 at 3:03 pm
I know some of you are of the opinion I’m on some bash reggie campaign and it’s far fromm that. I’m trying as hard as I can to believe in him
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I’m just giving you a hard time, Priest.
I know you’re true S&B, so you’ll always be good with me.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:04 pm
Paps knows dìck about player eval.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:04 pm
Are those the same Raider “fans” that were laughing and smiling for the camera with a minute to go opening night against the Chargers?
WTF happened to us?
March 14th, 2013 at 3:04 pm
I was at the game and all the Raider fans were going nuts.
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I’m going to go way out on a limb here and say they might have all been very Drunk
March 14th, 2013 at 3:04 pm
2m Evan Silva @evansilva
New #Eagles OLB Connor Barwin managed 3 sacks in 18 starts last season, including playoffs. 3 sacks across 1,137 snaps per @PFF.
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March 14th, 2013 at 3:04 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 1:58 pm
Riff, You are wrong man. Bryant is well worth $34 over 5 years. That kid is a very solid starter maybe you are right about Wheeler but Bryant was one of the few BRIGHT spots on this defense last year along with Wheeler and others.
bryant was a mistake he should’ve offered that kid a nice contract prior to FA and he would still be here…period
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I agree with JFB and an hour later I agree with Priest??
Strange day!
Bryant may not be a pro-bowler, but you never let go of good hard working YOUNG d-linemen. NEVER. They are just too hard to replace.
This was almost as bad of a mistake as Seymour last season.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:04 pm
36 million guarenteed. I know some Raider fans would be pissed at that deal and those stats
March 14th, 2013 at 3:05 pm
Nuts??
That’s pretty stupid, with all due respect.
Scoring a 10 yard TD down 24-14 with a minute left deserves a golf clap at best, no matter, who, what and where is involved.
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Probably because we hadn’t sniffed the endzone in a while.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:05 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 2:53 pm
I know some of you are of the opinion I’m on some bash reggie campaign and it’s far fromm that. I’m trying as hard as I can to believe in him. But when he makes senseless moves like he makes it just hits me in my gut.
I can’t understand what he is doing bring in these players he’s bringing in. Terrnce Newman? why even do that?
That just smacks of stupidity. It sends up all kinds of red flags and tells me he just doesn’t knwo the league. There are way too many young talented kids taht can be developed around the league to be bring in garbage like that. Bartell and Spencer….lol we were way better off staying the course. But when I said that last year you guys were in here throwing parties over that garbage batch.
Reggie lucks upon players rather than executing some astute plan to biuld this team “the right way”. He is all smoke and no fire. From the coach to the talent he just blows smoke………period
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Reggie is doing half ass cuts and then dumpster diving. It’s idiotic. It’s not how you “rebuild” and build a team. No balance. Especially in this situation (4-12)
By cutting Palmer and Kelly along with the others that were cut the Raiders would of had like $30+ mil in cap space. Plenty to make some moves for a legit rebuild.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:06 pm
I do like adams, btw. He plyed pretty good last year.
Howeer, why did Reggie only lok him up for one year? Same mistake he made with Wheeler. If Adams turns out to be really good should Reggie be praised for finding him or ridiculed for failing to sign him to a longer deal?
March 14th, 2013 at 3:06 pm
Plenty of good pass rushers still out there and LBS .. and Pollard and Adrian Wilson.. Reggie is gonna get them for the cheap
March 14th, 2013 at 3:07 pm
Finally found the article on Bruce Campbell from the Cat Scratch Reader (great name BTW, why can’t we get a cool name like that?). REported to have a “brain issue” during the combine. WTF?????
(and who is the cracked out homeless dude from the Jazz on there? This seems like a great blog!!!)
http://www.catscratchreader.com/2012/8/3/3217279/bruce-campbell-the-unexpected-surprise-in-panthers-camp
March 14th, 2013 at 3:08 pm
raiderinparadise Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 2:57 pm
one thing thats important in life, is to not judge prior to results.
if oak goes say…. 10-6 and gets a wildcard, what will the haters do?
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I will be doing cartwheels and above all apologizing to all here that I chastised. And I will be banging on MD to sign Allen and Reggie to long term contracts!
Now what will the people do that got pissed at me for saying Reggie is a spineless moron if we go 2-14??
March 14th, 2013 at 3:08 pm
Murphy, Ford, Moore and Shilens = better than Criner.
DVD and Chekwa = Way better than broken down DBs on the wrong side of 30 for a rebu ilding team.
Hue = way better than Allen
Satele = Way better than Brisiel
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It was just time to move on from Schillens. How do we know if Criner is the real deal or not since he got hurt? Can he at least get through his 2nd year before he is declared anything one way or the other?
Adams is not broken down and over 30. He’s better than MY BOY, DVD. I backed DVD more than anyone, ask JFB.
I don’t know that Hue is better than Allen as a HC. As an OC, I’d agree. EPIC, EPIC fail on Hue’s part to not have a solid BACKUP QB when Glo went down. FAR more of a EFF up than Allen not having a backup LS available. LITERALLY cost us a playoff birth and 2 high picks.
Satele is not better than Wiz. You might have forgot Satele plays CENTER???
March 14th, 2013 at 3:10 pm
Sir RaiderDuck, OMS Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 2:19 pm
Mcskinnnylegs Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 2:17 pm
yo fellas check my tweet to phillip wheeler.u like?
Rasta-Raider@rastaraider1
@Philgood50 have fun getting exposed by tom brady! #overpaid
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Why be nasty about it? I tweeted him a couple of days ago and just wished him well, except when he plays us of course. Miami offered him more $$$ than we did. What was he supposed to do? Say no?
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NO one knew who wheeler was until Reggie gave him a shot. All his BS about loving Oakland and the fans and he jumped ship the first chance he got.
I tweeted him to go F- himself and told him that he would fit right in with the Dolfags.
I hope he gets both his legs broke in camp.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:10 pm
Chris in NY Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:06 pm
I do like adams, btw. He plyed pretty good last year.
Howeer, why did Reggie only lok him up for one year? Same mistake he made with Wheeler. If Adams turns out to be really good should Reggie be praised for finding him or ridiculed for failing to sign him to a longer deal?
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I’d say probably waiting to see what he has in camp. Probably a mistake. Dude plays the ball. I’m thinking if he offered half of what wheeler got after game four he would have signed.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:10 pm
raiderinparadise Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 2:57 pm
CP3 plays very well, running game back with dmac….
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oh no not the “dynamic duo ” hype again
it hasnt happened in 2 years
palmer stinks and will never fit
he is the ultimate impostor raider qb
end of story
March 14th, 2013 at 3:10 pm
Chris in NY Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:06 pm
I do like adams, btw. He plyed pretty good last year.
Howeer, why did Reggie only lok him up for one year? Same mistake he made with Wheeler. If Adams turns out to be really good should Reggie be praised for finding him or ridiculed for failing to sign him to a longer deal?
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Ridiculed… obviously. You have to gamble on young talent! Even if he gets cut in training camp he should be ridiculed. This is no way to run a franchise… I keep saying…
March 14th, 2013 at 3:11 pm
DVD was last years reciepient of the annual “training camp tweets that everone drastically overvalues a player on”.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:11 pm
I really want, no, I really NEED Reggie to succeed. But it’s not fair to mercilessly bash Al Davis for his contributions to a 4-12 season while not acknowledging Reggie’s. Picking a Rod Streater and Miles Burris does not make up for all the flops. Criner, Bergstrom, Brisel, Bartell, Spencer, etc…
March 14th, 2013 at 3:12 pm
Dakota Says:
Ouch…..but I don’t put much stock in papas opinion.
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Well he watches more football, including practices, than any of us.
But he is oddly very defensive when it comes to Palmer. It’s almost like he owns stock in him.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:12 pm
JFB,
You forgot to mention tht the entire premise of that article is raving about what a great find Campbell was for the Panthers and how he looks like “the real deal.”
March 14th, 2013 at 3:12 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:11 pm
DVD was last years reciepient of the annual “training camp tweets that everone drastically overvalues a player on”.
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LOL, At least TC hype is better than the OTA hype Criner got.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:14 pm
Another brilliant Tom Cable move by the way. Moving BC to guard. Veldheer to center. Seabass to RB.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:14 pm
JFB,
You forgot to mention tht the entire premise of that article is raving about what a great find Campbell was for the Panthers and how he looks like “the real deal.”
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Yup, and found the time to give him a whole 23 snaps all year, even though he was healthy all year and everyone else got hurt.
They gave 3 different guys a start at RT. He wasn’t one of them. He was active 5 times all year.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:15 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 2:59 pm
He struggled to get of his customary ‘td raiders’ call when tp dazzled bought time and turned dmo 17 and dhb back into dangerous weapons.
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That’s because the next play was an onside kick and then the game was over.
He didn’t go crazy when Palmer threw the same type of garbage time TD to Myers against Cleveland.
What kind of announcer goes crazy for a TD when your losing, with little time on the clock?
That makes zero sense.
And I don’t like Papa either, but let’s be real here.
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dont make excuses for him like you did for palmer and grads
he is purely a pryor hater and he could barley contain it during the broadcast
td to get us within an onside kick is very exciting the tv announcers were juiced and so was the crowd.
Papa said pryor cant play nfl qb and he was made to look foolish by pryor on that day like all of the rest of the haters did.
pryor team mates, coaches and office staff all impressed
steve tasker impressed
real raider fans impressed
March 14th, 2013 at 3:16 pm
Eh, get that onside kick and suddenly none of it was garbage time.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:16 pm
Manish Mehta @MMehtaNYDN 3m
Jets giving the red-carpet treatment today to RB Mike Goodson, who’s still in town. Sounds promising. #nyj
March 14th, 2013 at 3:16 pm
Why is slo still s raider?
March 14th, 2013 at 3:16 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:11 pm
I really want, no, I really NEED Reggie to succeed. But it’s not fair to mercilessly bash Al Davis for his contributions to a 4-12 season while not acknowledging Reggie’s. Picking a Rod Streater and Miles Burris does not make up for all the flops. Criner, Bergstrom, Brisel, Bartell, Spencer, etc…
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I don’t mercilessly bash Al. What Al did for this game is far and above what most people could have dreamed of. The problem is now we’re changing into a new way of doing things and so theres going to be a lot of pain involved in cleaning up things to where they need to be. And yes Reggie has not made all the best choices but no GM is right on everything they do. But given the situation Reggie walked into and where we need to be I’m willing to give him some time to right the ship before I start calling for his head. One or two seasons will not give you a full picture of a rebuilding franchise especially when you started your first year with almost no draft picks and a lot of cap issues.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:17 pm
Man its gunna be a long off-season!
For Raiders fans many of you people sure do a LOT of Whining…
March 14th, 2013 at 3:17 pm
Chris in NY Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:14 pm
Another brilliant Tom Cable move by the way. Moving BC to guard. Veldheer to center. Seabass to RB.
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Can’t overlook his best move though, moving Greg Knapp away from the headset and Clip Board.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:17 pm
Has all of the overblown DHB hatred been transferred to Criner?
March 14th, 2013 at 3:18 pm
If our announcers start getting crazy for TD’s that don’t tie the game with a minute to go, then all hope is lost.
YOu get excited if you get the onside kick.
What’s next, are the going to start playing hells bells at our home games on a defensive 3rd an 9 with two minutes left down 35-10?
What a pathetically low level of expectations.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:18 pm
18.Sir RaiderDuck, OMS Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 2:21 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 2:18 pm
Al took fast DVD 3rd round
Seattle took Richard Sherman 5th round.
Dvd cant even tackle
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Al spent a third-round pick on a fast CB with no coverage skills WHO DIDN’T EVEN START IN COLLEGE. Reggie wouldn’t have spent a third-rounder on DVD in a million years.
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Rod Woodson worked him out and vouched for him, that’s why the Raiders took him. He said he was raw but could be coached. Hmmmmm, come to think of it lets take a look at the scathing review about the Raider draft at nfl.com
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-draft/09000d5d81fad8d7/Raiders-draft-evaluation?module=HP_video
Wow! Casserly certainly put Al Davis in his place for that draft!! Revisonist history is not just for civil war buffs!
March 14th, 2013 at 3:19 pm
rediaR Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:17 pm
Has all of the overblown DHB hatred been transferred to Criner?
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Yes, he now our highest Draft pick who can’t play WR
March 14th, 2013 at 3:20 pm
Marks hair Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:16 pm
Why is slo still s raider?
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reggie is praying someone offers a 7th rounder on draft day? like seattle, 49ers, teams with 10+ draft picks?
no clue.
or hope 3-4 switch allows him to be responsible for smaller field area and he plays hard, maybe napolean kaufman gets him in church ? lol
lol no idea.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:21 pm
I don’t know what u guys think about adam shein of nfl.com but he just wrote an article on nfl.com and in it he basically said that the dolhpins overpaid wheeler and the browns overpaid des bryant. just thought i would put the info out there.
“i didn’t like what the dolphins paid for dannell ellerbe or phillip wheeler either”
“And desmond bryant gets a five-year contract for $34 million with $15 million guaranteed?!? Wow”
March 14th, 2013 at 3:24 pm
Casserly sure whiffed on that one.
Mentions all the draft picks except the one really good one, D-Moore.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:26 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:19 pm
rediaR Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:17 pm
Has all of the overblown DHB hatred been transferred to Criner?
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Yes, he now our highest Draft pick who can’t play WR
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Yup, that would be the overblown hatred I was talking about. Okay, carry on.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:26 pm
Adam Schein is a clueless, Raider-hating dikhead. This is well established
March 14th, 2013 at 3:26 pm
We signed Roach&Connor yet????
March 14th, 2013 at 3:26 pm
Thomas Howard a free agent lol
March 14th, 2013 at 3:27 pm
Raidertbone Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 2:44 pm
Geno Smith = Akili Smith
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What are you basing this on? Mechanics, Accuracy, Arm strength???
March 14th, 2013 at 3:28 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 1:37 pm
Mr Green, some good work last night!
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March 14th, 2013 at 3:28 pm
Jason La Canfora@JasonLaCanfora
Leon Washington tweets that the he has signed with the Patriots. Good enough source for me
March 14th, 2013 at 3:28 pm
Like Barkley’s, Geno’s receivers bailed him out constantly.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:29 pm
Are the Raiders planning to sign anyone…..decent?
March 14th, 2013 at 3:29 pm
Inonewordraider Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:28 pm
Jason La Canfora@JasonLaCanfora
Leon Washington tweets that the he has signed with the Patriots. Good enough source for me
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The rich get richer.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:30 pm
Raiderfankirk Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:03 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:00 pm
raiderinparadise Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 2:57 pm
one thing thats important in life, is to not judge prior to results.
if oak goes say…. 10-6 and gets a wildcard, what will the haters do?
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I will love it, and change my tune.
If we go 4-12 again, what excuse will you give this time?
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LMAO
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He’s rebuilding the right way.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:30 pm
Why is slo still s raider?
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Moving to the 3-4????
March 14th, 2013 at 3:30 pm
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March 14th, 2013 at 3:31 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:19 pm
rediaR Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:17 pm
Has all of the overblown DHB hatred been transferred to Criner?
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Yes, he now our highest Draft pick who can’t play WR
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So you believe Criner cant play Wr???? WOW
You do know that he was injured most of last year right?
You do know he was projected as a 2nd rdr, that dropped because of 40 time right?
March 14th, 2013 at 3:32 pm
A lot of these draft busts were “great picks” when they came out of college. Its an crap shoot. But the plan now is to hope that Reggie gets the draft right in 2014. Really, and not alientate the players that are playing this year? Sure guys no problem.
Day 1 of OTA’s
DA: Hey team just finished talking to Reggie and we are gonna go ahead and tank this season so we can get a great pick in next years draft. I know that the average players career is only about 3 to 5 years but go ahead and eat this year and we will go all out in 2014……..now everybody get in here for a whoa Raiders!…….guys? Hey where did everybody go??
March 14th, 2013 at 3:32 pm
rudegruden Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:30 pm
Raiderfankirk Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:03 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:00 pm
raiderinparadise Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 2:57 pm
one thing thats important in life, is to not judge prior to results.
if oak goes say…. 10-6 and gets a wildcard, what will the haters do?
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I will love it, and change my tune.
If we go 4-12 again, what excuse will you give this time?
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LMAO
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He’s rebuilding the right way.
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Or so you assume
March 14th, 2013 at 3:33 pm
Relentless Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:29 pm
Are the Raiders planning to sign anyone…..decent?
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They already have but I see your narrow minded view … a big name, big #’s and big $ ….
Wait till the #3 pick for that.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:33 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:32 pm
rudegruden Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:30 pm
Raiderfankirk Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:03 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:00 pm
raiderinparadise Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 2:57 pm
one thing thats important in life, is to not judge prior to results.
if oak goes say…. 10-6 and gets a wildcard, what will the haters do?
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I will love it, and change my tune.
If we go 4-12 again, what excuse will you give this time?
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LMAO
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He’s rebuilding the right way.
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Or so you assume
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sorry I should have put “right way”. I was being sarcastic
March 14th, 2013 at 3:34 pm
beach Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 2:53 pm
We want football players, not overpaid, lazy, prima donnas. The Al Davis era is over. For those of you who can’t move on, go root for another team. In Reggie, I trust.
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Does Reggie’s wife know about this, I think he’s taken but maybe he can make room for you.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:34 pm
Streater is a better WR than Criner. He has hands. Denarious Moore fell off the face of the earth last year.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:35 pm
BTW,
To those of the slry cap hell excuse, with all of the HUGE money contracts Miami hs been doing, their 2013 cap hit is only gonn be $12.7 mil. Now, I don’t necessarily agree with most of their moves, but it just shows that with upwards of $30 mil in cap room after cutting TK and McClain, Reggie could’ve gotten some decent talent.
The Reggie McKenzie salry cap excuse = DEAD.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:35 pm
Relentless Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:34 pm
Streater is a better WR than Criner. He has hands. Denarious Moore fell off the face of the earth last year.
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criner still has plenty of time to prove he was a good choice, shined in ota’s maybe an offseason gives him his groove back
March 14th, 2013 at 3:36 pm
Just put all of the WRs out there and let them compete. Best players win.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:36 pm
Relentless Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:34 pm
Streater is a better WR than Criner. He has hands. Denarious Moore fell off the face of the earth last year.
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Everyone on the team did.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:36 pm
No paradise. There are decent vets that don’t need to be overpaid. No need for stars. Winfield? Adrian Wilson. Older vets come cheap.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:37 pm
Chris In NY Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:35 pm
BTW,
To those of the slry cap hell excuse, with all of the HUGE money contracts Miami hs been doing, their 2013 cap hit is only gonn be $12.7 mil. Now, I don’t necessarily agree with most of their moves, but it just shows that with upwards of $30 mil in cap room after cutting TK and McClain, Reggie could’ve gotten some decent talent.
The Reggie McKenzie salry cap excuse = DEAD.
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They got Maiava!
March 14th, 2013 at 3:38 pm
Reading this blog its obviuos some of you know shid about WR’s
March 14th, 2013 at 3:38 pm
To those of the slry cap hell excuse, with all of the HUGE money contracts Miami hs been doing, their 2013 cap hit is only gonn be $12.7 mil.
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I’m sure the 2014 offseason will be just lovely for them.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:38 pm
Relentless Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:36 pm
No paradise. There are decent vets that don’t need to be overpaid. No need for stars. Winfield? Adrian Wilson. Older vets come cheap.
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I don’t understand the logic that we are totally rebuilding, but will sign guys who are past their prime.
Doesn’t that contradict itself?
March 14th, 2013 at 3:38 pm
Not everyone on the team. Reggie showed up…..to ihop.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:38 pm
“Obvious”
March 14th, 2013 at 3:39 pm
Hoping we pick up Washaun Easley as a UDFA
March 14th, 2013 at 3:39 pm
Would love to see WR Tavon Austin become a Raider somehow!
That kid can do it all and is tough! Kinda like Steve Smith, but quicker and faster!
March 14th, 2013 at 3:39 pm
Oakland would have to overpay for talent right now to get FA’s here. Miami has South Beach and that hole allure.
SF, Seat, Atl, etc provide the chance to go to the SB
KC has “Andy Reid”.
I think we should keep lurking and wait for that “Charles Woodson” type FA to pay nicely.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:39 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:36 pm
Relentless Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:34 pm
Streater is a better WR than Criner. He has hands. Denarious Moore fell off the face of the earth last year.
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Everyone on the team did.
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yet Moore still managed 7 TD’s and 750 yards. considering his hobbling injury and being that out of shape from it and with a bootsy playbook i’d say he did very well.
put him in the vertical offense again, and we should see him explode again.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:39 pm
rudegruden Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:38 pm
Relentless Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:36 pm
No paradise. There are decent vets that don’t need to be overpaid. No need for stars. Winfield? Adrian Wilson. Older vets come cheap.
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I don’t understand the logic that we are totally rebuilding, but will sign guys who are past their prime.
Doesn’t that contradict itself?
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The logic is they are stop gaps until you can replace them through the draft.
Also no point in signing young FA’s because if they play well, Reggie will not resign them.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:40 pm
Rude do you think every player we draft will be ready this year? Maybe some but not all. A vet to teach them while they adjust to the NFL doesn’t seem to hurt. Neither do one year cheap salaries.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:40 pm
McK needs to keep signing bargain basement deals to players on the defensive side of the ball and OLine.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:40 pm
Reading this blog its obviuos some of you know shid about WR’s
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And just in case there is any confusion, he’s talking to the D Wow and Criner bahsers!
March 14th, 2013 at 3:40 pm
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March 14th, 2013 at 3:41 pm
http://www.fieldgulls.com/nfl-draft/2013/2/18/4001234/nfl-combine-tests-explained-seahawks-john-scheider
The seahawks are following “Al’s way”
March 14th, 2013 at 3:41 pm
189. Yeah i still beleive Moore can become our #1 WR.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:42 pm
What about. Quincy Black??
March 14th, 2013 at 3:42 pm
Chris In NY Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:26 pm
Adam Schein is a clueless, Raider-hating dikhead. This is well established
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Easiest excuse for a monkey to make.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:43 pm
These WRs are flashy at times and can make great catches. Its the lack of consistency.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:44 pm
Oakland would have to overpay for talent right now to get FA’s here. Miami has South Beach and that hole allure.
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Plus, no state income tax.
Even money, ain’t even, even between the two of us.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:44 pm
Honestly, I would probably respect Reggie more if I knew he was intentionally tanking this season to get Brdgewater or Manziel or something. Otherwise, his methods make no sense.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:44 pm
Relentless Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:40 pm
Rude do you think every player we draft will be ready this year? Maybe some but not all. A vet to teach them while they adjust to the NFL doesn’t seem to hurt. Neither do one year cheap salaries.
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Some people on here do think that. The whole build through the draft logic is a 5 year process at least. You need to sign FA’s that are productive to start winning. But some on the site don’t want to actually sign real FA’s because you have to spend money.
At some point you have to spend money. Either to keep the guys you have or to bring in missing pieces.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:45 pm
Chris in NY Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:35 pm
BTW,
To those of the slry cap hell excuse, with all of the HUGE money contracts Miami hs been doing, their 2013 cap hit is only gonn be $12.7 mil. Now, I don’t necessarily agree with most of their moves, but it just shows that with upwards of $30 mil in cap room after cutting TK and McClain, Reggie could’ve gotten some decent talent.
The Reggie McKenzie salry cap excuse = DEAD.
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we are paying $32 million in dead money. the salary cap challenege is alive and kicking.
i agree that mclame and kelly should be cut, and i’m not attached to Palmer anymore either. teams that act too early in FA more than likely get burned. the FA crop is a deep one this year, so let’s see how this plays out before passing judgement.
we can’t afford any more Sapps, Mosses, Javon’s, Deangelo’s, etc.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:45 pm
Reading this blog its obviuos some of you know shid about WR’s
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I read some smattering by one guy about drafting D-Moore before we did, and that we should have traded Jacoby last year before his foot almost fell off.
I wonder what his take is on Criner?
March 14th, 2013 at 3:45 pm
Steater, Moore, Ford, and Criner = Ohhh the possibilities. Need to add a “vet” to this group though, Thec.
No doubt you were the first one to hail the Pryor-Criner-DMoore future greatness.
Seems like your boy McKenzie is going to give that a chance to develop, so I’m surprised you’re not more in his camp!
March 14th, 2013 at 3:46 pm
Chris In NY Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:44 pm
Honestly, I would probably respect Reggie more if I knew he was intentionally tanking this season to get Brdgewater or Manziel or something. Otherwise, his methods make no sense.
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No you would not.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:46 pm
KrappyRat, please stop trolling the blog dropping your special brand of racism
Calling my Blog Brahs a monkey is low even for you, Old Troll
Get out of bed, get those diapers changed and pop a Lean Cuisine in the microwave
Dropping few dozen lbs probably wouldn’t hurt, eh Rat?
March 14th, 2013 at 3:46 pm
Streater is a #1 WR … thats it, smooth strides in top of srpint, can run intermediate routes, has to work on ball security and developing with palmer.
Criner can get his, when he sees the field more. Great hands and body control to block off defenders.
Moore, is a deep threat, and that went away last year in the knapp offense, he is electric in open space and elusive, he can score TD’s even in off yr last r he logged 7.
Ford is a #2, and slot as well …. prob play some more slot this year …. hands, blazing fast, big play threat on any sort of touch… reverse, short catch, deep ball, and a great kick returner dont forget.
Hagan, the reliable vet, will always run the right route and make the safe play with the ball.
The isuue with allllllllllllll of them is inconsistent hands…..and moore a bit rattled in press converages.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:47 pm
Anybody watch that show ‘The Following’ on Monday nights starring Kevin Bacon?
it’s creepy as heck.
Carson Palmer = Joe Carroll
March 14th, 2013 at 3:47 pm
J Hill Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:45 pm
Steater, Moore, Ford, and Criner = Ohhh the possibilities. Need to add a “vet” to this group though, Thec.
No doubt you were the first one to hail the Pryor-Criner-DMoore future greatness.
Seems like your boy McKenzie is going to give that a chance to develop, so I’m surprised you’re not more in his camp!
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50% off Reggie should have kept DHB at a reduced rate. Those guys have chemistry…
March 14th, 2013 at 3:48 pm
If ARizona releases Kolb, what do you guys think about picking him up for a Chase Daniels(or whatever that guys name is the chefs signed) type of contract.
Personally, I like Kolb and think he can be a starter. I’d take a chance on him and ditch Palmer and his huge salary. Palmer ain’t taking this team to the playoffs next year. No QB in history could lead this team to the post season next year. Might as well cut ties, take the hit this year and save some coin for next year.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:48 pm
Talking about the offense has me wanting Fisher at 3.
I KNOW you like Fisher, Priest.
Veldheer-Nix-Wiz-Begstrom-Fisher
Resign Barnes and Carlisle for depth.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:49 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:45 pm
Reading this blog its obviuos some of you know shid about WR’s
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I read some smattering by one guy about drafting D-Moore before we did, and that we should have traded Jacoby last year before his foot almost fell off.
I wonder what his take is on Criner?
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Yeah, what is your take on Criner?
March 14th, 2013 at 3:49 pm
Actually, I would. Otherwise, it just means he’s lousy and we’ll just get worse every year like we did last year.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:49 pm
195.The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:41 pm
http://www.fieldgulls.com/nfl-draft/2013/2/18/4001234/nfl-combine-tests-explained-seahawks-john-scheider
The seahawks are following “Al’s way”
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Seahawks in the Playoff hunt & the Raiders following the Green Bay formula (wait for Brett Farve to comeback and trade for Reggie White to jumpstart franchise).
March 14th, 2013 at 3:49 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:07 pm
Finally found the article on Bruce Campbell from the Cat Scratch Reader (great name BTW, why can’t we get a cool name like that?). REported to have a “brain issue” during the combine. WTF?????
(and who is the cracked out homeless dude from the Jazz on there? This seems like a great blog!!!)
http://www.catscratchreader.com/2012/8/3/3217279/bruce-campbell-the-unexpected-surprise-in-panthers-camp
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Just one example of how Reggie has screwd this team since coming here……….and he continues to do so……..period
March 14th, 2013 at 3:49 pm
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Analysis: Avril signed his contract with the Seahawks Thursday, the team announced. NFL.com’s Albert Breer originally reported the agreement and NFL.com’s Ian Rapoport reported that Avril’s deal is for two-years, $15 million.
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wow. we couldn’t get that in here BigMac? i’m convinced that we’re tanking the 2013 season now.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:49 pm
This team is gonna look different come day one. Lot of peeps left or got cut. Probably not gonna know half the new guys on the squad. New guys playing together need time to gel with each other. It just seems like Reggie is getting worthless benched players or ones coming off injuries. And he has to hit GRAND SLAMS in the next couple of drafts if he doesn’t like to sign big money players. Seems like a lost cause to me.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:50 pm
Who in here is “making excuses” for Reggie, Chris in NY?
he’s doing a great job!
how about some more IHOP jokes?
those are hilarious bro. pfft
March 14th, 2013 at 3:50 pm
Streater and Criner can take DHB’s role.
Moore and Ford can handle the deep routes.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:50 pm
Yeah, what is your take on Criner?
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Great hands, good YAC, tough to tackle, but will struggle to get open.
QB will have to have a lot of confidence in him to “throw” him open and let him make plays.
Of course “Average” would just loft his fade OOB to him last year the few times he was in. PIssed me off to high heaven.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:50 pm
Streater just reminds me of Murphy, Big guy who can’t really get seperation and drops balls.
Criner reminds me of Schilnez, a lot of Hype on how he can catch but never sees the Field
March 14th, 2013 at 3:51 pm
Chris In NY Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:49 pm
Actually, I would. Otherwise, it just means he’s lousy and we’ll just get worse every year like we did last year.
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Maybe you would. You’d have to be pretty stupid to go into a season to tank it.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:52 pm
DHb was a great blocker and that was it, wasn’t great at ANYTHING else, hard worker, but very average WR would barely see the field anywhere else.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:52 pm
203.tonedeezy Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:45 pm
Chris in NY Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:35 pm
BTW,
To those of the slry cap hell excuse, with all of the HUGE money contracts Miami hs been doing, their 2013 cap hit is only gonn be $12.7 mil. Now, I don’t necessarily agree with most of their moves, but it just shows that with upwards of $30 mil in cap room after cutting TK and McClain, Reggie could’ve gotten some decent talent.
The Reggie McKenzie salry cap excuse = DEAD.
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we are paying $32 million in dead money. the salary cap challenege is alive and kicking.
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The Colts have $38 million in dead money, how come we are not hearing them cry about it and use it as an excuse to tank this year??
March 14th, 2013 at 3:52 pm
If ARizona releases Kolb, what do you guys think about picking him up for a Chase Daniels(or whatever that guys name is the chefs signed) type of contract.
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CW,
I’d take Kolb at 3-years $10 million
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/14/chase-daniel-gets-three-years-10-million/
March 14th, 2013 at 3:53 pm
raiderinparadise Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:52 pm
DHb was a great blocker and that was it, wasn’t great at ANYTHING else, hard worker, but very average WR would barely see the field anywhere else.
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He was good when he could get the ball in his possession, and he was tough over the middle.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:53 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:50 pm
Yeah, what is your take on Criner?
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Great hands, good YAC, tough to tackle, but will struggle to get open.
QB will have to have a lot of confidence in him to “throw” him open and let him make plays.
Of course “Average” would just loft his fade OOB to him last year the few times he was in. PIssed me off to high heaven.
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He is the kind of WR that will win MOST 1 on 1 battles that do not require he have a lot of sep.
I would also add he has good chemistry with TP.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:54 pm
@Jhill
Ford sucks, leave him out of the WR equation. He’s probably being shopped for a 7th rounder (like McClain) as we speak!
March 14th, 2013 at 3:54 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:52 pm
If ARizona releases Kolb, what do you guys think about picking him up for a Chase Daniels(or whatever that guys name is the chefs signed) type of contract.
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CW,
I’d take Kolb at 3-years $10 million
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/14/chase-daniel-gets-three-years-10-million/
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And you would go 0-16 and lose what little is left of the fan base.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:54 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:50 pm
Streater just reminds me of Murphy, Big guy who can’t really get seperation and drops balls.
Criner reminds me of Schilnez, a lot of Hype on how he can catch but never sees the Field
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You do know he was injured right?
March 14th, 2013 at 3:54 pm
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Kevin Williamson is a hack
What’s up with that lame English villian who quotes Poe? The only thing scarier than him is KrappRat brushing his teeth with no undies
Bacon’s the only one holding that trainwreck together
I’d bang his wife on the show, but that FBI agent chick doesn’t do anything to stimulate the Lawg
If you’re going to put on a 4th rate drama at least cast a few babes with huge fake racks
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March 14th, 2013 at 3:55 pm
2013 needs to be about answering the Palmer and Pryor questions.
IF both flop, QB is the CLEAR direction for next year’s draft.
Palmer has no excuses. All the WRs are healthy, vertical offense, McFadden in a contract year. The guy needs to start off 4-2′ish to secure the job. Any 2-4 type starts, any can’t get the offense going stretches, and he’s on the bench for Pryor. Pryor get the rest of the season to see if he can cut it.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:55 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:54 pm
@Jhill
Ford sucks, leave him out of the WR equation. He’s probably being shopped for a 7th rounder (like McClain) as we speak!
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That’s worse talent evaluation than your Kevin Kolb suggestion
March 14th, 2013 at 3:55 pm
did King Darrius sign with Baltimore yet?
March 14th, 2013 at 3:55 pm
Thec Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:54 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:50 pm
Streater just reminds me of Murphy, Big guy who can’t really get seperation and drops balls.
Criner reminds me of Schilnez, a lot of Hype on how he can catch but never sees the Field
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You do know he was injured right?
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Yes, thaty’s why he reminds me of Chaz
March 14th, 2013 at 3:56 pm
225.DT42 Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:52 pm
203.tonedeezy Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:45 pm
Chris in NY Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:35 pm
BTW,
To those of the slry cap hell excuse, with all of the HUGE money contracts Miami hs been doing, their 2013 cap hit is only gonn be $12.7 mil. Now, I don’t necessarily agree with most of their moves, but it just shows that with upwards of $30 mil in cap room after cutting TK and McClain, Reggie could’ve gotten some decent talent.
The Reggie McKenzie salry cap excuse = DEAD.
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we are paying $32 million in dead money. the salary cap challenege is alive and kicking.
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The Colts have $38 million in dead money, how come we are not hearing them cry about it and use it as an excuse to tank this year??
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because they have the most important piece set for the next 10 years. and an all pro wr for him to throw to. and they went to the plaoffs last year. and a lot of young talent still playing on rookie contract, meaning they have drafted well recently. we have none of those things.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:56 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:54 pm
@Jhill
Ford sucks, leave him out of the WR equation. He’s probably being shopped for a 7th rounder (like McClain) as we speak!
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Man took you long enough to chime in something redic….
Lets do a wager RR, JFORD will be a very intergral part of the O 2013.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:56 pm
Darrius I seen connected to eagles and also the bills.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:56 pm
I’m guessing that’s the type of contract he’ll get. or a 2 year 8 mil type. His stock has dropped big time, even though I think his struggles in the desert were due to the porous line in front of him.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:56 pm
NFL.com’s Ian Rapoport reported that Avril’s deal is for two-years, $15 million.
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wow. we couldn’t get that in here BigMac?
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Nope.
Would’ve taken 5 years 40 million to come to a 4-12 team.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:56 pm
DT42 Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:52 pm
203.tonedeezy Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:45 pm
Chris in NY Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:35 pm
BTW,
To those of the slry cap hell excuse, with all of the HUGE money contracts Miami hs been doing, their 2013 cap hit is only gonn be $12.7 mil. Now, I don’t necessarily agree with most of their moves, but it just shows that with upwards of $30 mil in cap room after cutting TK and McClain, Reggie could’ve gotten some decent talent.
The Reggie McKenzie salry cap excuse = DEAD.
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we are paying $32 million in dead money. the salary cap challenege is alive and kicking.
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The Colts have $38 million in dead money, how come we are not hearing them cry about it and use it as an excuse to tank this year??
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They have had one bad year in the last 6. We have had zero GOOD years in the last ten. Is that an excuse?
March 14th, 2013 at 3:57 pm
you would go 0-16 and lose what little is left of the fan base
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Kool, SeyGlenn
you can go root for Palmer on whatever team he plays for next season
March 14th, 2013 at 3:57 pm
J Hill Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:55 pm
2013 needs to be about answering the Palmer and Pryor questions.
IF both flop, QB is the CLEAR direction for next year’s draft.
Palmer has no excuses. All the WRs are healthy, vertical offense, McFadden in a contract year. The guy needs to start off 4-2′ish to secure the job. Any 2-4 type starts, any can’t get the offense going stretches, and he’s on the bench for Pryor. Pryor get the rest of the season to see if he can cut it.
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I think there isn’t any doubt that there will be clear direction for next years draft even if Palmer does well. That draft should have someone worth taking.
March 14th, 2013 at 3:57 pm
WR wager war?
I got Streater as first WR to break 1,000 since …. curry? or whoever that was?
March 14th, 2013 at 3:58 pm
Yes, thaty’s why he reminds me of Chaz
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Chaz has had a few years however, a rookie after the 1st year? Too early to make that comparison….IMO
March 14th, 2013 at 3:58 pm
I got Streater as first WR to break 1,000 since …. curry? or whoever that was?
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Randy Moss!
March 14th, 2013 at 3:59 pm
What if Palmer comes back, plays slightly better, we go 7-9, and the best 3 QB’s go in the top 5 and we are picking 11th?
Draft Geno, problem solved
March 14th, 2013 at 4:00 pm
Thec Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:58 pm
Yes, thaty’s why he reminds me of Chaz
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Chaz has had a few years however, a rookie after the 1st year? Too early to make that comparison….IMO
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It’s the Injury combined with all the Hype that reminds me of Chaz
March 14th, 2013 at 4:00 pm
im sure theres a 46 year old qb somewhere out there…
March 14th, 2013 at 4:00 pm
That’s worse talent evaluation than your Kevin Kolb suggestion
+++++++++=
He is just bitter that JFORD took hiz boy higgs spot in the 46 man rotation…
March 14th, 2013 at 4:00 pm
You wanna pump up the fan base?
Sign Johnny Lee Higgins to a 5 year max out, the Black Hole will go nuts with his end zone backflips
Then max out Ray Lewis to a 3 year deal to do his Enter the Stadium Bird Dance and then give pump up speeches during every time out
We’ll be 13-0 easily after the first 6 games
TAKIN THIS JAM TO THE NEXT LEVEL
March 14th, 2013 at 4:00 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:59 pm
What if Palmer comes back, plays slightly better, we go 7-9, and the best 3 QB’s go in the top 5 and we are picking 11th?
Draft Geno, problem solved
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Geno is not the answer. We need a franchise QB. We shouldn’t draft a QB just to draft a QB. That will set us back even further.
March 14th, 2013 at 4:01 pm
Jhill, I don’t like Fisher I LOVE Fisher he is very rare and better than the higly touted kid from Bama.Fisher reminds me of a kid I scouted out of Florida St ?? can’t think of his nam right now but he cam eout teh same year as Orlando Pace and I thought he was just as good. Well Fisher is almost the same player.
March 14th, 2013 at 4:01 pm
Lets resign JLH. We’ll be set at WR.
March 14th, 2013 at 4:01 pm
DT42 Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:52 pm
203.tonedeezy Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:45 pm
Chris in NY Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:35 pm
BTW,
To those of the slry cap hell excuse, with all of the HUGE money contracts Miami hs been doing, their 2013 cap hit is only gonn be $12.7 mil. Now, I don’t necessarily agree with most of their moves, but it just shows that with upwards of $30 mil in cap room after cutting TK and McClain, Reggie could’ve gotten some decent talent.
The Reggie McKenzie salry cap excuse = DEAD.
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we are paying $32 million in dead money. the salary cap challenege is alive and kicking.
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The Colts have $38 million in dead money, how come we are not hearing them cry about it and use it as an excuse to tank this year??
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The cap issue is a bunch of nonsense. Reggie is using that as a excuse. It pure BS. It’s not the cap it’s how you work the cap.
Add Palmer, McClain, and Kelly with the other cuts that have happened and the Raiders would have a little over $35 million in “REAL” cap space right frickin now. You Reggie apologist are pathetic.
Reggie has no clue what he is doing.
March 14th, 2013 at 4:01 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:59 pm
What if Palmer comes back, plays slightly better, we go 7-9, and the best 3 QB’s go in the top 5 and we are picking 11th?
Draft Geno, problem solved
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Worst pick to go wring on, a bad QB.
Would set us back years. AGAIN
March 14th, 2013 at 4:02 pm
Seymour –
The question is the Colts have $38 million in dead money, so why are they not using it as an excuse like the Raiders are to tanking this season?
Here I’ll give you another team. The Cowboys who have not won a playoff game since 1996 are dragging $30+ million in dead money. Why are they not blowing up there team and doing the same. Sub par GM? Maybe but only the Raider fans are all for tanking a season so we can get back to 8-8.
March 14th, 2013 at 4:02 pm
It’s the Injury combined with all the Hype that reminds me of Chaz
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Criner was a projected 2nd rd pick that dropped because of 40 time.
No hype with him, as he is real. I take him in any 1 on 1 scenario…
March 14th, 2013 at 4:02 pm
Chris In NY Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:35 pm
BTW,
To those of the slry cap hell excuse, with all of the HUGE money contracts Miami hs been doing, their 2013 cap hit is only gonn be $12.7 mil. Now, I don’t necessarily agree with most of their moves, but it just shows that with upwards of $30 mil in cap room after cutting TK and McClain, Reggie could’ve gotten some decent talent.
The Reggie McKenzie salry cap excuse = DEAD.
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If you are going to quote the cap hit for 2013 and think it is cheap, why aren’t you giving the cap hit for 2014 so everyone can see the whole picture?
2013 total cap number for 5 new Dolphins multi-year deals: $12.725M. 2014 total cap number: $43.275M http://wp.me/p14QSB-7CGt
March 14th, 2013 at 4:02 pm
I heard JLH had cool endzone dances, too bad we never got a chance to see any of them.
March 14th, 2013 at 4:03 pm
@radio
The cap issue is a bunch of nonsense. Reggie is using that as a excuse. It pure BS. It’s not the cap it’s how you work the cap.
Add Palmer, McClain, and Kelly with the other cuts that have happened and the Raiders would have a little over $35 million in “REAL” cap space right frickin now. You Reggie apologist are pathetic.
Reggie has no clue what he is doing.
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and if kelly, palmer, mcclain dont take restructures, you cut them and it would be 50+ million is dead money you IDIOT.
March 14th, 2013 at 4:05 pm
I really don’t like DA but I like the type of players they are aiming for. Hopefully once we get a full roster of these mutha’s DA steps down to open a hair salon or something.
March 14th, 2013 at 4:05 pm
254.Priesttj12 Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 4:01 pm
Jhill, I don’t like Fisher I LOVE Fisher he is very rare and better than the higly touted kid from Bama.Fisher reminds me of a kid I scouted out of Florida St ?? can’t think of his nam right now but he cam eout teh same year as Orlando Pace and I thought he was just as good. Well Fisher is almost the same player.
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Walter Jones.
March 14th, 2013 at 4:06 pm
Dang, Avril might’a been a a decent pickup.
I still think they are manuevering to a 3-4…
March 14th, 2013 at 4:07 pm
I am out…You guys enjoy what is left of this day.
1 NATION
March 14th, 2013 at 4:07 pm
RaidO Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 4:01 pm
DT42 Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:52 pm
203.tonedeezy Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:45 pm
Chris in NY Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:35 pm
BTW,
To those of the slry cap hell excuse, with all of the HUGE money contracts Miami hs been doing, their 2013 cap hit is only gonn be $12.7 mil. Now, I don’t necessarily agree with most of their moves, but it just shows that with upwards of $30 mil in cap room after cutting TK and McClain, Reggie could’ve gotten some decent talent.
The Reggie McKenzie salry cap excuse = DEAD.
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we are paying $32 million in dead money. the salary cap challenege is alive and kicking.
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The Colts have $38 million in dead money, how come we are not hearing them cry about it and use it as an excuse to tank this year??
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The cap issue is a bunch of nonsense. Reggie is using that as a excuse. It pure BS. It’s not the cap it’s how you work the cap.
Add Palmer, McClain, and Kelly with the other cuts that have happened and the Raiders would have a little over $35 million in “REAL” cap space right frickin now. You Reggie apologist are pathetic.
Reggie has no clue what he is doing.
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You won’t get a response. When you ask a logical question that doesn’t fit to someones agenda, they won’t answer.
March 14th, 2013 at 4:08 pm
I think its pretty obvious raiders will either be multiple D or 3-4 converted completely with sims, Kaluku and hunter additions. All best production in 3-4.
same with slolando.
burris.
heck the front 7 is 3-4 personnel at this point.
that why trading down #3 is smart, forget shariff and get Jordan or jones or ogletree and suddenly we have a nasty pass rush
March 14th, 2013 at 4:09 pm
the most worthwhile mid priced free agent that would fill Raider need is gone. Wanted to go to a better team for less money
Saints sign CB Keenan Lewis (5 years, $26M; $11M guaranteed): A Grade
Keenan Lewis was the second-best cornerback still available in free agency. He’s better than both Sean Smith and Cary Williams, yet he’s slated to make less per year than both of them. This is not because teams didn’t view Lewis as an inferior cornerback; he simply took a discount to play with the Saints. According to the Chicago Sun-Times’ Sean Jensen, another team offered Lewis a much larger contract.
This is obviously an awesome acquisition for the Saints. They’re filling their huge corner need with a very talented player at a very reasonable price.
March 14th, 2013 at 4:10 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:59 pm
What if Palmer comes back, plays slightly better, we go 7-9, and the best 3 QB’s go in the top 5 and we are picking 11th?
Draft Geno, problem solved
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Yeah, but what QB do we take in 2015/16 with our #1 overall pick after that?
March 14th, 2013 at 4:10 pm
258.DT42 Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 4:02 pm
Seymour –
The question is the Colts have $38 million in dead money, so why are they not using it as an excuse like the Raiders are to tanking this season?
Here I’ll give you another team. The Cowboys who have not won a playoff game since 1996 are dragging $30+ million in dead money. Why are they not blowing up there team and doing the same. Sub par GM? Maybe but only the Raider fans are all for tanking a season so we can get back to 8-8.
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they cut their starting safety, a LB that started 8 games for them last season, their starting defenive end. and they haven’t signed a single free agent. i’m sure there are more moves to come from dallas.
March 14th, 2013 at 4:11 pm
RaidO Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 4:01 pm
DT42 Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:52 pm
203.tonedeezy Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:45 pm
Chris in NY Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:35 pm
BTW,
To those of the slry cap hell excuse, with all of the HUGE money contracts Miami hs been doing, their 2013 cap hit is only gonn be $12.7 mil. Now, I don’t necessarily agree with most of their moves, but it just shows that with upwards of $30 mil in cap room after cutting TK and McClain, Reggie could’ve gotten some decent talent.
The Reggie McKenzie salry cap excuse = DEAD.
_____________________________________________
we are paying $32 million in dead money. the salary cap challenege is alive and kicking.
———————————————
The Colts have $38 million in dead money, how come we are not hearing them cry about it and use it as an excuse to tank this year??
————-
The cap issue is a bunch of nonsense. Reggie is using that as a excuse. It pure BS. It’s not the cap it’s how you work the cap.
Add Palmer, McClain, and Kelly with the other cuts that have happened and the Raiders would have a little over $35 million in “REAL” cap space right frickin now. You Reggie apologist are pathetic.
Reggie has no clue what he is doing.
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And how many massive holes to fill?
March 14th, 2013 at 4:11 pm
AlzadoX Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 4:09 pm
the most worthwhile mid priced free agent that would fill Raider need is gone. Wanted to go to a better team for less money
Saints sign CB Keenan Lewis (5 years, $26M; $11M guaranteed): A Grade
Keenan Lewis was the second-best cornerback still available in free agency. He’s better than both Sean Smith and Cary Williams, yet he’s slated to make less per year than both of them. This is not because teams didn’t view Lewis as an inferior cornerback; he simply took a discount to play with the Saints. According to the Chicago Sun-Times’ Sean Jensen, another team offered Lewis a much larger contract.
This is obviously an awesome acquisition for the Saints. They’re filling their huge corner need with a very talented player at a very reasonable price.
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He’s could also make a few more $’s for “incentives”
March 14th, 2013 at 4:13 pm
Raiderinparadise Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 4:03 pm
@radio
The cap issue is a bunch of nonsense. Reggie is using that as a excuse. It pure BS. It’s not the cap it’s how you work the cap.
Add Palmer, McClain, and Kelly with the other cuts that have happened and the Raiders would have a little over $35 million in “REAL” cap space right frickin now. You Reggie apologist are pathetic.
Reggie has no clue what he is doing.
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and if kelly, palmer, mcclain dont take restructures, you cut them and it would be 50+ million is dead money you IDIOT.
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Wrong, the Raiders currently have $32 mil in dead money. It would not go up $18 million more.
Colts have $38 mil in dead money. So what…….
March 14th, 2013 at 4:15 pm
274.RaidO Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 4:13 pm
Raiderinparadise Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 4:03 pm
@radio
The cap issue is a bunch of nonsense. Reggie is using that as a excuse. It pure BS. It’s not the cap it’s how you work the cap.
Add Palmer, McClain, and Kelly with the other cuts that have happened and the Raiders would have a little over $35 million in “REAL” cap space right frickin now. You Reggie apologist are pathetic.
Reggie has no clue what he is doing.
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and if kelly, palmer, mcclain dont take restructures, you cut them and it would be 50+ million is dead money you IDIOT.
———————–
Wrong, the Raiders currently have $32 mil in dead money. It would not go up $18 million more.
Colts have $38 mil in dead money. So what…….
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Andrew Luck base salay is 1.4 ml with a cap hit of 5 mil. carson palmer salary is 13 mil with a cap hit of 15 mil. thats one thing…
March 14th, 2013 at 4:15 pm
raiderinparadise Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 4:03 pm
and if kelly, palmer, mcclain dont take restructures, you cut them and it would be 50+ million is dead money you IDIOT.
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If Palmer is cut its a 9.3 million in Cap $$. You mean to tell me that we have $41 million in Cap $$ tied up in Kelly and McClain??
March 14th, 2013 at 4:17 pm
Reggie should unveil the “geezer club” at CB and announce the signings of Newman, Winfield, Jammer & Hanson all at once
March 14th, 2013 at 4:18 pm
276.DT42 Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 4:15 pm
raiderinparadise Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 4:03 pm
and if kelly, palmer, mcclain dont take restructures, you cut them and it would be 50+ million is dead money you IDIOT.
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If Palmer is cut its a 9.3 million in Cap $$. You mean to tell me that we have $41 million in Cap $$ tied up in Kelly and McClain??
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i think he means that we have 30 mil dead money right now. palmer dead money is 9.3 if cut. kelly is 6.3 if cut rolando is 10.8 if cut. thats 26 mil in dead money added to the 30 mil we already have.
March 14th, 2013 at 4:18 pm
McClain dead money: 10,895,000
Kelly: 6,324,270
Palmer: 9,340,000
@RaidO
Your plans are truly brilliant
you want me to add that up for you on top of the 32mill in dead money already?
March 14th, 2013 at 4:18 pm
NGRaiderfan Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 4:15 pm
Andrew Luck base salay is 1.4 ml with a cap hit of 5 mil. carson palmer salary is 13 mil with a cap hit of 15 mil. thats one thing…
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Wrong, Palmer restructured his contract, “If Palmer is on the roster, he will cost the Raiders $13 million in real dollars and $15.3 million in cap dollars. If Palmer is released, he will cost the Raiders nothing in real dollars and $9.3 million in cap dollars. Palmer’s value might best be summed up in the difference between these costs: $13 million in real dollars and $6 million in cap dollars.”
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1521031-why-the-oakland-raiders-should-cut-carson-palmer
March 14th, 2013 at 4:19 pm
your a fing idiot @RaidO
March 14th, 2013 at 4:19 pm
If Reggie had a serious opportunity to answer needs with the draft last year maybe we wouldn’t have to talk so much about the cap.
The Colts had the number one overall. We waited until the 3rd for our first pick.
March 14th, 2013 at 4:19 pm
276.DT42 Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 4:15 pm
raiderinparadise Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 4:03 pm
and if kelly, palmer, mcclain dont take restructures, you cut them and it would be 50+ million is dead money you IDIOT.
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If Palmer is cut its a 9.3 million in Cap $$. You mean to tell me that we have $41 million in Cap $$ tied up in Kelly and McClain??
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according to spotrac we hav 26 mil in dead mooney, cutting palmer, kelly and slo would add 26 mil in dead money to that. making it around 50 mil dead money
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/oakland-raiders/cap-hit/
March 14th, 2013 at 4:19 pm
raiderinparadise Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 4:19 pm
your a fing idiot @RaidO
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That’s for sure.
March 14th, 2013 at 4:21 pm
I’m watching Maury. Much more entertaining than our FA signings.
March 14th, 2013 at 4:22 pm
I applaud Reggie for doing what is needed.
This franchise was left a mess from the old Senile Al Davis.
Al whiffed on every single first and second round draft pick and for anyone that knows football, that is a disaster.
Most of you here are too retarded and want a quick fix. Sorry, this house needs a total demolition, a remodel will not do!
March 14th, 2013 at 4:22 pm
And remember kids, say no to Geno!
March 14th, 2013 at 4:22 pm
280.DT42 Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 4:18 pm
NGRaiderfan Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 4:15 pm
Andrew Luck base salay is 1.4 ml with a cap hit of 5 mil. carson palmer salary is 13 mil with a cap hit of 15 mil. thats one thing…
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Wrong, Palmer restructured his contract, “If Palmer is on the roster, he will cost the Raiders $13 million in real dollars and $15.3 million in cap dollars. If Palmer is released, he will cost the Raiders nothing in real dollars and $9.3 million in cap dollars. Palmer’s value might best be summed up in the difference between these costs: $13 million in real dollars and $6 million in cap dollars.”
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1521031-why-the-oakland-raiders-should-cut-carson-palmer
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what are u talking about i’m confused. it’s pretty simple. we are talking about salary cap. andrew luck is costing the colts 5 mil towards the cap. palmer is costing the raiders 15 mil towards the cap as of today ( i havent heard of any restructuring done so far this offseason with him)
that means our starting qb is costing us 10 mil more than their starting qb.
thus y although they have around the same of dead money as us. their cap situation isn’t as bad as ours. they have players on lower salaries, lower cap hits than us, especially guys in important positions.
March 14th, 2013 at 4:22 pm
Just read on ESPN that Chiefs beat us out for sean smith,i was liking his size too.
March 14th, 2013 at 4:22 pm
Bottom line is that the Cap number is just a number that can and is manipulated by ever franchise in the NFL. When owners don’t want to spend, blame the cap. When owners want to win they find ways around it. I’m telling you I watched the Spurs do this for years when Red McCombs was the team owner. The cap is an excuse that teams give to the fans. It shouldn’t be ignored but it can be manipulated.
March 14th, 2013 at 4:23 pm
With Ray Ray doing his pump up speech, JLH could easily do 2 backflips in the endzone
I bet JHL would even bust cartwheels at the coin flip
Gotta hurry up Old Man Reg – get a max deal on the table
FULLY BAKED ON WASTED
March 14th, 2013 at 4:24 pm
The cap issue is a bunch of nonsense. Reggie is using that as a excuse. It pure BS.
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Tell that to Bart Scott, Michael Turner, Charles Woodson, Ryan fitzpatrick and Kevin Kolb.
March 14th, 2013 at 4:24 pm
NGRaiderfan Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 4:05 pm
254.Priesttj12 Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 4:01 pm
Jhill, I don’t like Fisher I LOVE Fisher he is very rare and better than the higly touted kid from Bama.Fisher reminds me of a kid I scouted out of Florida St ?? can’t think of his nam right now but he cam eout teh same year as Orlando Pace and I thought he was just as good. Well Fisher is almost the same player.
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Walter Jones.
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Thanks!
March 14th, 2013 at 4:24 pm
NGRaiderfan Says:
palmer is costing the raiders 15 mil towards the cap as of today ( i havent heard of any restructuring done so far this offseason with him)
Enjoy:
http://www.comcastsportsnet.com/landing?blockID=666464&tagID=8790
He already restructured once when Huff and Seymour did.
March 14th, 2013 at 4:25 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 4:19 pm
raiderinparadise Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 4:19 pm
your a fing idiot @RaidO
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That’s for sure.
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I’m not saying Reggie hasn’t made mistakes, or could do things better, He even admits to that, but the fact is the contratcs he inherited were insane. Imagine what we have now used to be with Routt and Wimbley!!!???
Its unbeleievable.
and hindered quicker moves to progress by reggie.
But he has a better draft this yeat, last year his 1st pick as a raider GM was in 3rd round. could you imagine taking a GM job with the money issues and lack of draft?
Good thing @RaidO has a great resume to help
March 14th, 2013 at 4:26 pm
No rocky they didn’t beat us to Sean smith. We are trying to sign Newman. God bless Reggie.
March 14th, 2013 at 4:26 pm
290.DT42 Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 4:22 pm
Bottom line is that the Cap number is just a number that can and is manipulated by ever franchise in the NFL. When owners don’t want to spend, blame the cap. When owners want to win they find ways around it. I’m telling you I watched the Spurs do this for years when Red McCombs was the team owner. The cap is an excuse that teams give to the fans. It shouldn’t be ignored but it can be manipulated.
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it can be manipulated, but u always pay for it down the road. what do u think the raiders are doing now? paying for contracts that al davis created to “manipulate” the cap.
March 14th, 2013 at 4:26 pm
what are u talking about i’m confused. it’s pretty simple. we are talking about salary cap. andrew luck is costing the colts 5 mil towards the cap. palmer is costing the raiders 15 mil towards the cap as of today ( i havent heard of any restructuring done so far this offseason with him)
that means our starting qb is costing us 10 mil more than their starting qb.
thus y although they have around the same of dead money as us. their cap situation isn’t as bad as ours. they have players on lower salaries, lower cap hits than us, especially guys in important positions.
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But that is because they dumped Peyton Manning and drafted Luck during the rookie pay scale rule. Otherwise they would be $7mm above us for an older guy with 4 neck surgeries.
March 14th, 2013 at 4:27 pm
294.DT42 Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 4:24 pm
NGRaiderfan Says:
palmer is costing the raiders 15 mil towards the cap as of today ( i havent heard of any restructuring done so far this offseason with him)
Enjoy:
http://www.comcastsportsnet.com/landing?blockID=666464&tagID=8790
He already restructured once when Huff and Seymour did.
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he restructured last year. that restructure makes it so that he is, as of today, like i sadi. causing a 15 mil cap hit to the raiders. its right there on the link i provided just look it up. wow
March 14th, 2013 at 4:28 pm
And remember kids, say no to Geno!
***
Redia,
Al Davis offered the Raiders GM job to JFB before Hue Jackson. He told Vegas to keep an eye on this kid outta WV named Geno Smith. Here we are a few years down the road and Mark Davis is pulling advice from his dad’s old cronies, JFB being one of them. JFORD is currently wearing #12 but that wont be an issue as he’s likely to be traded to move up 2 spots in round 4
March 14th, 2013 at 4:28 pm
Yeah, but what QB do we take in 2015/16 with our #1 overall pick after that?
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Your crazy, even Jamarcus Ruselll didn’t take us to the #1 overall pick.
Geno will bring us back to respectability, ASAP
March 14th, 2013 at 4:29 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 4:24 pm
The cap issue is a bunch of nonsense. Reggie is using that as a excuse. It pure BS.
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Tell that to Bart Scott, Michael Turner, Charles Woodson, Ryan fitzpatrick and Kevin Kolb.
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not good examples bush
all of those guys either suck out right (kolb & fitz) or have aged out of the premier pay range
March 14th, 2013 at 4:29 pm
298.Seymour Bush Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 4:26 pm
what are u talking about i’m confused. it’s pretty simple. we are talking about salary cap. andrew luck is costing the colts 5 mil towards the cap. palmer is costing the raiders 15 mil towards the cap as of today ( i havent heard of any restructuring done so far this offseason with him)
that means our starting qb is costing us 10 mil more than their starting qb.
thus y although they have around the same of dead money as us. their cap situation isn’t as bad as ours. they have players on lower salaries, lower cap hits than us, especially guys in important positions.
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But that is because they dumped Peyton Manning and drafted Luck during the rookie pay scale rule. Otherwise they would be $7mm above us for an older guy with 4 neck surgeries.
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the fact is that they did it and these are the situations. If they didn’t cut manning they wouldn’t have as much dead money either as i’m sure a lot of that dead money is from the peyton cut. also if they kept peyton they would be sitting pretty with a future first ballot hall of famer grooming one of the best young qbs in the game. and they still would have made the playoffs, might have went farther. and we wouldn’t have to be dealing with manning in our division.
March 14th, 2013 at 4:30 pm
fvck shrek …we have the stupidest gm in the league coupled with the stupidest coach in the league…
March 14th, 2013 at 4:30 pm
Frankenstein will not win a postseason game for Denver this year. print that
the legend of Tebow lives on!!
March 14th, 2013 at 4:32 pm
Matt Leinart signed a 1-year deal with Denver, re-uniting him with QB coach Greg Knapp. He will presumably be 3rd string and play for the minimum
March 14th, 2013 at 4:33 pm
Can you restructure and trade a player?
Raiders pay the really dollars/cap hit and trade the player to another team?
Just asking? I plead ingorance…
March 14th, 2013 at 4:33 pm
306.RaiderRockstar Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 4:32 pm
Matt Leinart signed a 1-year deal with Denver, re-uniting him with QB coach Greg Knapp. He will presumably be 3rd string and play for the minimum
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u think gregg knapp and leinhart have a little bromance or something? how does lleinhart still have a place in this league?
March 14th, 2013 at 4:34 pm
SBreport @SBreport
Seems like RB Mike Goodson may soon be a Jet. One thing McKenzie managed with last year’s one-year deals may be compensatory picks.
March 14th, 2013 at 4:34 pm
Relentless Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 4:21 pm
I’m watching Maury. Much more entertaining than our FA signings.
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Actually, coming home from a hard workday, logging into this blog, reading (PRO & CON) views about our beloved RAIDERS, “NOW THAT’S ENTERTAINMENT!” LMAO.
March 14th, 2013 at 4:34 pm
Oh no!!! The Raiders are gonna lose GOODSON.. thats like Barry Sanders in his prime… blah
Jeremy Stewart played pretty well and i hear Raiders are gonna draft a RB in this draft.. they have someone..just dont know who yet
March 14th, 2013 at 4:37 pm
311.RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 4:34 pm
Oh no!!! The Raiders are gonna lose GOODSON.. thats like Barry Sanders in his prime… blah
Jeremy Stewart played pretty well and i hear Raiders are gonna draft a RB in this draft.. they have someone..just dont know who yet
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goodson was ok. i liked him he made plays when he was out there for the most part. Jets i think are paying him to be the starter though or at least compete for it. we’ll ahve to see what kind of contract he gets.
March 14th, 2013 at 4:37 pm
Anybody know where I can get a #54 Reggie McKenzie jersey ??
March 14th, 2013 at 4:38 pm
Trade Palmer, Cut Pryor, Start Young! Dream Team
March 14th, 2013 at 4:38 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 4:30 pm
fvck shrek …we have the stupidest gm in the league coupled with the stupidest coach in the league…
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go be a fan of another team, your exhausting your pathetic life through your anger upon signing guys liek Gibirl Wilson and paying them bagillions, then you think a good move was made
March 14th, 2013 at 4:39 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 4:37 pm
Anybody know where I can get a #54 Reggie McKenzie jersey ??
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hahhahahahah best of the day.
March 14th, 2013 at 4:39 pm
Bucs DE Michael Bennett joins Seahawks
March 14th, 2013 at 4:39 pm
I hope we draft Jonathan Franklin.
He will be better than McFadden by the bye week.
March 14th, 2013 at 4:40 pm
313.RaiderRockstar Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 4:37 pm
Anybody know where I can get a #54 Reggie McKenzie jersey ??
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How about making a making a Clowney Raiders Jersey?
March 14th, 2013 at 4:40 pm
Jonathan Franklin.. that nixxa nice.
So is Giselle from FLORIDA
March 14th, 2013 at 4:40 pm
RockyMountainRaider Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 4:38 pm
Trade Palmer, Cut Pryor, Start Young! Dream Team
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lol. Then I would say yep we’re f’d.
March 14th, 2013 at 4:41 pm
signing guys liek Gibirl Wilson and paying them bagillions, then you think a good move was made
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Tyvon Branch < Gibril Wilson
Ouch!
March 14th, 2013 at 4:41 pm
I miss the days of Andrew Walter. Good times.
March 14th, 2013 at 4:42 pm
De Angello Hall, HUFF, ASO, GIBRIL
self described best D BACK tandem.. in training camp
WEEK 1 TORCHED by Jay CUtler
March 14th, 2013 at 4:42 pm
Raiderinparadise Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 4:18 pm
McClain dead money: 10,895,000
Kelly: 6,324,270
Palmer: 9,340,000
@RaidO
Your plans are truly brilliant
you want me to add that up for you on top of the 32mill in dead money already?
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You and Seymour Bush are a IDIOT’S.
Kelly’s is actually $7.26 mil. You are missing the fact that they can spread all of this over 2 years. It would be about $43 mil in dead money. Once again so what when you have $35+ mil in REAL cap space for a legit rebuild. Next years “dead money” will be minimal.
Oh and the colts have $38 mil in dead money. Once again so what..
This team needs to be rebuilt correctly not half ass’ed. Cutting and dumpster diving will not get it done and that just sets this team back further.
March 14th, 2013 at 4:43 pm
Levi Damien @LeviDamien
That 1-year, $5 mil deal for DE Michael Bennett is not the kind of $$ expected. Seems his top priority is winning.
March 14th, 2013 at 4:44 pm
Damn i meant McClain’s is $7.26 mil not $10.895 mil
March 14th, 2013 at 4:45 pm
who cares about dead money? purging the contracts of Palmer & Kelly (maybe even McFadden) via release or trade actually SAVES the team money. If you’re worried about guys actually hurting the cap upon release or trade you gotta look at #55 and he’s as good as gone imo
March 14th, 2013 at 4:47 pm
NGRaiderfan Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 4:27 pm
294.DT42 Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 4:24 pm
NGRaiderfan Says:
palmer is costing the raiders 15 mil towards the cap as of today ( i havent heard of any restructuring done so far this offseason with him)
Enjoy:
http://www.comcastsportsnet.com/landing?blockID=666464&tagID=8790
He already restructured once when Huff and Seymour did.
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he restructured last year. that restructure makes it so that he is, as of today, like i sadi. causing a 15 mil cap hit to the raiders. its right there on the link i provided just look it up. wow
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Additionally as I understand it a contract can only be restructured once. After that the player has to actually take a paycut for the contract to be modified again or sign a new one replacing the old one that pays him more money which I really doubt we’re gonna do with palmer.
March 14th, 2013 at 4:47 pm
Seahawks = Super Bowl 48 champions!
March 14th, 2013 at 4:47 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 4:40 pm
313.RaiderRockstar Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 4:37 pm
Anybody know where I can get a #54 Reggie McKenzie jersey ??
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Framed on the wall at I-HOP. If you don’t mind syrup stains.
March 14th, 2013 at 4:48 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 4:45 pm
who cares about dead money? purging the contracts of Palmer & Kelly (maybe even McFadden) via release or trade actually SAVES the team money. If you’re worried about guys actually hurting the cap upon release or trade you gotta look at #55 and he’s as good as gone imo
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Yeah tell that to Raiderinparadise dude is clueless
March 14th, 2013 at 4:51 pm
So how many games do we win next year? Anyone know?
March 14th, 2013 at 4:54 pm
I thought JStewart played pretty good for us when McFragile and Goodsen were down. He looked like a legit NFL tailback….
March 14th, 2013 at 4:54 pm
I see all these high PRICE FA’s going to other teams.. still funny how nobody is building their OLINE
OLINE and DLINE is the way to build the team.. preferaly OLINE
BIG DUDES just run down ur lanes
March 14th, 2013 at 4:55 pm
Adam Schefter@AdamSchefter
Ravens S Ed Reed spoke today like a man saying goodbye to Baltimore. Every sign now points to him getting done a deal in Houston on Friday.
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Former Bucs DE Michael Bennett agrees to terms on a 1-year $5 million deal with the Seahawks, as @ProFootballTalk reported.
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March 14th, 2013 at 4:55 pm
Jason La Canfora@JasonLaCanfora
CB Antoine Cason completed his visit to AZ. Cards need to create some space (ie Kolb) before they make another move. Other teams interested
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March 14th, 2013 at 4:56 pm
“I see all these high PRICE FA’s going to other teams.. still funny how nobody is building their OLINE”
what is the real deal with Winston i wonder?! haven’t heard him visiting anyone or anything. guy only allowed 3 sacks last year. very curious situation because he would be a perfect fit here… we need him
March 14th, 2013 at 4:56 pm
Im telling u if the RAIDERS build their OLINE and DLINE.. they will be able to compete with anybody
nevermind ur flash corners.. or ur flashy WR’s or average high price Linebackers.
its the line
March 14th, 2013 at 4:58 pm
Hawks are signing a lot of guys it’s true, but these are all quality players. they will be in the SB this season
March 14th, 2013 at 4:58 pm
BRONCOS have till 1 PM tommorow afternoon to decide whether or not they will pay DUMMERVIL.. thats when his contract is guarenteed
March 14th, 2013 at 4:59 pm
dumervil will want to go to a contender most likely. i mean, Reggie would be smart to throw some money at the guy, doubt he will. which is complete BS because we need guys like him on our DL
March 14th, 2013 at 4:59 pm
im not talking hawks.. they are already good.. im talking mainly the phins and some other teams.
Im just syaing build ur OLINE and Raiders will compete with anyone. .DLINE TOO I dont care what allstar teams look like
March 14th, 2013 at 4:59 pm
I think Raiders will make a legit push at Dumervil .. cuz of DA maybe 8-9 million a year..
March 14th, 2013 at 5:00 pm
Well, I would think the raiders might be lucky to get a couple of compensatory picks in this draft, probably 6th or 7th rounders, but if Reggie continues to sit on his hands we might get a couple of 4th rounders next year for Bryant and wheeler!
Rebuild.
March 14th, 2013 at 5:00 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 4:39 pm
Bucs DE Michael Bennett joins Seahawks
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yeah… at 1 year 5 mil.
what is reggie doing?
March 14th, 2013 at 5:03 pm
yeah… at 1 year 5 mil.
what is reggie doing?
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what makes u think he didnt say NO TO REGGIE.. ever wonder
Levi Damien @LeviDamien
That 1-year, $5 mil deal for DE Michael Bennett is not the kind of $$ expected. Seems his top priority is winning.
March 14th, 2013 at 5:04 pm
@VicTafur Fox sports radio host @artrellhawkins from cincinatti is reporting Raiders will sign Terrence Newman.
March 14th, 2013 at 5:04 pm
Artrell Hawkins Jr. @artrellhawkins
I hear from sources close to Terence Newman that he will indeed sign with the Oakland Raiders. More pressure to keep Pacman Jones?
March 14th, 2013 at 5:07 pm
Newman!
March 14th, 2013 at 5:07 pm
DVD made the Pittsburgh Steelers roster in 2012.
You know…..the same team praised for building the right way and for being a tough and nasty D.
Are you telling me we had a better roster than Pitt last year?.
Yes, DVD barely played on D, but he played Special Teams for them and contributed, he remains a project, but aren’t we building for the future? shouldn’t we be keeping kids with some talent and coaching them up?.
But I guess the dimwits in here will say spending close to 4 million dollars on Bartell and Shawntae Spencer was the smart move, after all if Reggie did it, then it was a fantastic move…..smh.
March 14th, 2013 at 5:08 pm
hello Jerry!
March 14th, 2013 at 5:08 pm
smh… lol
March 14th, 2013 at 5:10 pm
Bob Marley Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 5:07 pm
DVD made the Pittsburgh Steelers roster in 2012.
You know…..the same team praised for building the right way and for being a tough and nasty D.
Are you telling me we had a better roster than Pitt last year?.
Yes, DVD barely played on D, but he played Special Teams for them and contributed, he remains a project, but aren’t we building for the future? shouldn’t we be keeping kids with some talent and coaching them up?.
But I guess the dimwits in here will say spending close to 4 million dollars on Bartell and Shawntae Spencer was the smart move, after all if Reggie did it, then it was a fantastic move…..smh.
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Reggie is full of nonsense. His talk of “coaching up” and “out of whack contracts” is BS
March 14th, 2013 at 5:12 pm
Christopher Hansen @ChrisHansenNFL
Here’s a positive for the #Raiders: @PFF has Terence Newman>Sean Smith.
March 14th, 2013 at 5:13 pm
“Competition Committee wants to stop open-field helmet hits”
The group has proposed to the owners that ball-carriers or defenders who lower their heads to gain yards or to make a tackle should receive a 15-yard penalty for unnecessary roughness.
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Interesting that the ballcarrier can now be flagged. I did think it is a little hard on defenders coming in on a tackle if the ballcarrier can lower their helmet…
March 14th, 2013 at 5:14 pm
ItzSteve Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 5:04 pm
@VicTafur Fox sports radio host @artrellhawkins from cincinatti is reporting Raiders will sign Terrence Newman.
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Newman will be 35 years old in September. LOL. Is Reggie going to bring back Chris Johnson?
Fire Reggie!
March 14th, 2013 at 5:16 pm
Back-n-Black Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 5:00 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 4:39 pm
Bucs DE Michael Bennett joins Seahawks
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yeah… at 1 year 5 mil.
what is reggie doing?
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Probably trying to sign who ever Bennett is replacing in Seattle.
March 14th, 2013 at 5:17 pm
Maiava, Pat Sims, Jason Hunter….why bother?.
Are these guys getting signed so we can try and win 4-5 games instead of 2 or 3?.
Might as well let young kids like Christo, Crawford play and see what we have in them….and just fill out the 53 roster spots with Undrafted Free Agents, see if we can discover some diamonds in.the rough….you know kinda like Desmond Bryant.
March 14th, 2013 at 5:18 pm
You all can knock the Terrance Newman pick-up who just signed in oak, BUT he is better than any current DB on team.
March 14th, 2013 at 5:18 pm
Lol, how are all these guys raiders fans and just bash our new GM after 1 year of running one of the most challenging positions in the league on what may be the hardest team to start the position for…
Comical, Patriots were always good right? Ha
March 14th, 2013 at 5:19 pm
Tafur retweeted
ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk 4m
Raiders DE Matt Shaughnessy is heading to Arizona tonight for a visit with the Cardinals, per league source.
March 14th, 2013 at 5:20 pm
Should’ve tried harder to sign Shaughnessy instead of worthless Jason Hunter
March 14th, 2013 at 5:22 pm
I’ll take Newman, if he can find PT on Cincy’s defense, he ought to be a leader for us.
March 14th, 2013 at 5:22 pm
Raiderinparadise Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 5:18 pm
You all can knock the Terrance Newman pick-up who just signed in oak, BUT he is better than any current DB on team.
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That’s not saying much.
March 14th, 2013 at 5:23 pm
Might as well let young kids like Christo, Crawford play and see what we have in them….and just fill out the 53 roster spots with Undrafted Free Agents, see if we can discover some diamonds in.the rough….you know kinda like Desmond Bryant.
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Thats how its gonna be REGARDLESS .. even if u were coming off a 10 win season.. thats how its gonna be.. plus the DRAFT.. look at GREEN BAY.. not at the qb but the guys.. some no mames that played good.. then some NO NAMES in the draft that started ballin.. follwed by some NO NAMES in UDFA like TRAMON WILLIAMS
March 14th, 2013 at 5:24 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 5:20 pm
Should’ve tried harder to sign Shaughnessy instead of worthless Jason Hunter
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Disagree, were moving to a 3-4 hunter a 3-4 guy had 11 sacks 2 years ago when DA was his coach and before dumerville, miller took over pass rush.
Wtach if Arizona takes him they going to pay him so me ludacris deal like Bryant got and Wheeler, these guys didnt even deserve than money.
March 14th, 2013 at 5:24 pm
Raiderinparadise Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 5:18 pm
You all can knock the Terrance Newman pick-up who just signed in oak, BUT he is better than any current DB on team.
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You must’ve forgot about the Beast that is Coye Francise
March 14th, 2013 at 5:24 pm
ProFootballTalk@ProFootballTalk
Raiders DE Matt Shaughnessy is heading to Arizona tonight for a visit with the Cardinals, per league source.
Retweeted by Steve Corkran
March 14th, 2013 at 5:24 pm
Artrell Hawkins Jr.@artrellhawkins
I hear from sources close to Terence Newman that he will indeed sign with the Oakland Raiders. More pressure to keep Pacman
March 14th, 2013 at 5:25 pm
raiderinparadise Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 5:24 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 5:20 pm
Should’ve tried harder to sign Shaughnessy instead of worthless Jason Hunter
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Disagree, were moving to a 3-4 hunter a 3-4 guy had 11 sacks 2 years ago when DA was his coach and before dumerville, miller took over pass rush.
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Matt would be perfect for a 3-4 DE, and again Hunter has 11 CAREER Sacks in his 8 years. DA is a POS so the fact that he coached him before means little to me
March 14th, 2013 at 5:26 pm
Tafur retweeted
ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk 4m
Raiders DE Matt Shaughnessy is heading to Arizona tonight for a visit with the Cardinals, per league source.
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kinda pissed at that.. but then again.. these are not reggies players and he was honest when he said he liked some players not loved any
March 14th, 2013 at 5:26 pm
Sho-nicely stinks.
One year fluke
March 14th, 2013 at 5:27 pm
RaidO Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 5:14 pm
ItzSteve Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 5:04 pm
@VicTafur Fox sports radio host @artrellhawkins from cincinatti is reporting Raiders will sign Terrence Newman.
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Newman will be 35 years old in September. LOL. Is Reggie going to bring back Chris Johnson?
Fire Reggie!
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I say we kick the tires on Stanford Routt…he is still only 29. Aren’t we still paying him from 2 years ago?…LOL
March 14th, 2013 at 5:27 pm
prediction…newman will br hurt for the year by week 4
March 14th, 2013 at 5:28 pm
Christopher Hansen @ChrisHansenNFL
Here’s a positive for the #Raiders: @PFF has Terence Newman>Sean Smith.
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WTF is McKenzie thinking for signing the better player …. FOR CHEAPER??????
March 14th, 2013 at 5:28 pm
shaugnessy loss will hurt the most…
March 14th, 2013 at 5:29 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 5:23 pm
Might as well let young kids like Christo, Crawford play and see what we have in them….and just fill out the 53 roster spots with Undrafted Free Agents, see if we can discover some diamonds in.the rough….you know kinda like Desmond Bryant.
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Thats how its gonna be REGARDLESS .. even if u were coming off a 10 win season.. thats how its gonna be.. plus the DRAFT.. look at GREEN BAY.. not at the qb but the guys.. some no mames that played good.. then some NO NAMES in the draft that started ballin.. follwed by some NO NAMES in UDFA like TRAMON WILLIAMS
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seems to be reggies plan and he is sticking to his guns on this one
Im good with it
for everyone sayin “al used to do…”
THERE IS ONLY ONE AL DAVIS AND HE WILL NEVER RETURN.
I think we are far better off letting big mack be big mack and not having him imitate Al davis
March 14th, 2013 at 5:29 pm
WTF is McKenzie thinking for signing the better player …. FOR CHEAPER??????
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zactly. knows Fball.
March 14th, 2013 at 5:29 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 5:27 pm
prediction…newman will br hurt for the year by week 4
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Hey…that’s still 3 weeks longer than Bartell or Spencer!!!
March 14th, 2013 at 5:31 pm
35 years old…bwahahahaha…
March 14th, 2013 at 5:31 pm
35 years old…bwahahahaha…
March 14th, 2013 at 5:31 pm
Bob Marley Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 5:17 pm
Maiava, Pat Sims, Jason Hunter….why bother?.
Are these guys getting signed so we can try and win 4-5 games instead of 2 or 3?.
Might as well let young kids like Christo, Crawford play and see what we have in them….and just fill out the 53 roster spots with Undrafted Free Agents, see if we can discover some diamonds in.the rough….you know kinda like Desmond Bryant.
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I am sure we are going to see plenty of Crawford and Bilukidi..
March 14th, 2013 at 5:33 pm
J Hill Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 5:28 pm
Christopher Hansen @ChrisHansenNFL
Here’s a positive for the #Raiders: @PFF has Terence Newman>Sean Smith.
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WTF is McKenzie thinking for signing the better player …. FOR CHEAPER??????
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Smith 25 years old > Newman 35 years old.
This is suppose to be a REBUILD Reggie. Not duck tape.
Fire Reggie!
March 14th, 2013 at 5:34 pm
Onward and Upward. Long live “THE RAIDERS!”
March 14th, 2013 at 5:36 pm
Smith 25 years old > Newman 35 years old.
This is suppose to be a REBUILD Reggie. Not duck tape.
Fire Reggie!
- there were previous reports that we went after Smith. Went to KC for more money?
March 14th, 2013 at 5:36 pm
Raiderinparadise.
Might wanna check out what you say….
Hunter has 11 career sacks in like 8 years, never had 11 in a single year.
And Newman, soon to be 35…
Is he going to be around in 2 or 3 years when The Reggie Project finally pays off?……after all that’s what the blind-faith crowd uses as an excuse….”it’s gonna take a couple of years and then watch out”, right?.
Again…..are we signing these guys just to try and win 4-5 games instead of 2-3?.
What is the point of that?.
March 14th, 2013 at 5:38 pm
raiderinparadise dont know football man…all he does is spew the crap that is fed to him…
March 14th, 2013 at 5:39 pm
How are we rebuilding if we still have Palmer, McFadden, Moore, Ford, Streater, Veldheer, and Wiz as the core of our offense?
Newman was a GOOD PLAYER last year. If we get 1 DECENT year out of him until we draft a CB next year, then what’s the big deal? Better corner than Huff and CHEAPER.
March 14th, 2013 at 5:39 pm
Reggie grew up in one of the finest personnel operations in the NFL. Al Davis is Dead. There’s a new day in Raiderville.
March 14th, 2013 at 5:40 pm
When Marley goes negative you know something is wrong.
FIRE REGGIE NOW.
March 14th, 2013 at 5:41 pm
Does Newman have an injury history?
No????
Ten what’s the problem?
March 14th, 2013 at 5:41 pm
Severeraiderz Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 2:26 pm
http://a.espncdn.com/media/motion/2012/0908/dm_120908_cgd_sumlin_convo/dm_120908_cgd_sumlin_convo.jpg
The man that should be the next Head Coach in Oakland
HELL NO!
March 14th, 2013 at 5:41 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 5:39 pm
Reggie grew up in one of the finest personnel operations in the NFL. Al Davis is Dead. There’s a new day in Raiderville.
Can only get better.
March 14th, 2013 at 5:45 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 5:29 pm
seems to be reggies plan and he is sticking to his guns on this one
Im good with it
for everyone sayin “al used to do…”
THERE IS ONLY ONE AL DAVIS AND HE WILL NEVER RETURN.
I think we are far better off letting big mack be big mack and not having him imitate Al davis
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Excellent points.
March 14th, 2013 at 5:45 pm
Goodson (Jets) & ShoNasty (Cards) could be off the market tonight or tomorrow morning.
i’m not losing any sleep over it
March 14th, 2013 at 5:46 pm
he is freaking 45 years old! lol…dayum people have you guys ever played any sport at any level?
March 14th, 2013 at 5:48 pm
We’ve averaged 4 wins the last 10 years.
Reggie grew up in one of the finest personnel operations in the NFL. Al Davis is Dead. There’s a new day in Raiderville.
March 14th, 2013 at 5:49 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 5:45 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 5:29 pm
seems to be reggies plan and he is sticking to his guns on this one
Im good with it
for everyone sayin “al used to do…”
THERE IS ONLY ONE AL DAVIS AND HE WILL NEVER RETURN.
I think we are far better off letting big mack be big mack and not having him imitate Al davis
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Excellent points.
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Half ass cuts, not signing your young talent, blaming the cap, and then dumpster diving is not how you build a team. Reggie’s current path is just setting this team back further.
March 14th, 2013 at 5:49 pm
Marley & Chris in NY
solid dudes on the regular. bitter ex wives of Hue Jackson will complain about EVERYTHING done by the new regime
Like I said, these cats will be Raiders fans again by preseason when our roster looks better than it did the last two years and we enter NEXT offseason with a boatload of cap room and our full gammot of draft picks – signing & drafting big name players
March 14th, 2013 at 5:49 pm
Next year, with Hartline’s number going to $6.2 million, Moore’s moving to $5.5 million, Wallace’s skyrocketing to $17.75 million, Ellerbe’s inflating to $7.425 million, and Wheeler’s growing to $6.4 million, the combined cap numbers for the same five players become $43.275 million.
So, basically, the Dolphins won’t be spending quite as freely next year. Depending on the rest of the contracts that are on the books for 2014, they could be hustling to clear cap space.
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Chris,
Was that you giving props to the Miami GM?
So when he has to scramble to make all those cuts next year because of the outta what contracts, then what? 17 million next year for Wallace???? Ouch!
March 14th, 2013 at 5:51 pm
Half ass cuts, not signing your young talent, blaming the cap, and then dumpster diving is not how you build a team. Reggie’s current path is just setting this team back further.
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We’ve averaged 4 wins the last 10 years.
Reggie grew up in one of the finest personnel operations in the NFL. Al Davis is Dead. There’s a new day in Raiderville.
I’m sure he knows more than you.
March 14th, 2013 at 5:52 pm
Gimmie Shelter!!
Lord I’m Gonna Fade Away
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1JI7aMtazY&feature=g-list&list=PLyAftW5XMFf3MxHLBWJFbOpDmZEZtqZzU
March 14th, 2013 at 5:52 pm
Obviously Reggie is just tryin to fill roster with stop gap type players and he plans on making up most of the roster with his draft picks in the longterm. I saw this type of comment somewhere else and its exactly what I have ben sayin. Look at Green Bays Roster, full of draft picks, yeah Reggie has alot of work to do to get to that point, but that is the plan.
Like I have ben saying, its the “Greenbay Way” and several other teams take this same approach that have ben very successful, Steelers and Ravens come to mind. We are goin to have to let him do his thing atleast for the next year, let him get another offseason and full draft and then we will truly have a better idea if its goin to work or if he is in over is head.
March 14th, 2013 at 5:53 pm
Bob Marley Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 5:36 pm
Raiderinparadise.
Might wanna check out what you say….
Hunter has 11 career sacks in like 8 years, never had 11 in a single year.
And Newman, soon to be 35…
Is he going to be around in 2 or 3 years when The Reggie Project finally pays off?……after all that’s what the blind-faith crowd uses as an excuse….”it’s gonna take a couple of years and then watch out”, right?.
Again…..are we signing these guys just to try and win 4-5 games instead of 2-3?.
What is the point of that?.
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Tho you didn’t ask me I can explain exactly what the point is: The Raiders do not have the cap room to commit to any long term contracts. That’s why over the last two years we have been shedding salaries. But you have to field someone out there right? So McKenzie has been going with the one year guys who can come in and compete and not add to the debt load. It’s exactly the right approach. He then is coming in and getting low round and UFA’s to compete which means he has cheap backups and in some cases starters. This is the “right” way to do it whether fans like it or not.
March 14th, 2013 at 5:55 pm
Realtruraider Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 5:52 pm
Obviously Reggie is just tryin to fill roster with stop gap type players and he plans on making up most of the roster with his draft picks in the longterm. I saw this type of comment somewhere else and its exactly what I have ben sayin. Look at Green Bays Roster, full of draft picks, yeah Reggie has alot of work to do to get to that point, but that is the plan.
Like I have ben saying, its the “Greenbay Way” and several other teams take this same approach that have ben very successful, Steelers and Ravens come to mind. We are goin to have to let him do his thing atleast for the next year, let him get another offseason and full draft and then we will truly have a better idea if its goin to work or if he is in over is head.
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Reggie’s big test is going to be how many picks he can get for the #3 pick in the draft. If he can somehow trade back a few times and turn that pick into 4-5 picks no later than the 4th round…we will be on our way that much quicker!
March 14th, 2013 at 5:56 pm
All I know of Newman is that he was a part of a really bad cowboys secondary and a friend of mine being really happy when they let him go.
But I guess if he got PT with cincy for a year..he can be good in the right place?
March 14th, 2013 at 5:56 pm
The Raiders do not have the cap room to commit to any long term contracts. That’s why over the last two years we have been shedding salaries. But you have to field someone out there right? So McKenzie has been going with the one year guys who can come in and compete and not add to the debt load. It’s exactly the right approach. He then is coming in and getting low round and UFA’s to compete which means he has cheap backups and in some cases starters. This is the “right” way to do it whether fans like it or not.
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Did somebody hijack SeyGlenn’s handle?
because I agree 100%
March 14th, 2013 at 5:59 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 5:49 pm
Marley & Chris in NY
solid dudes on the regular. bitter ex wives of Hue Jackson will complain about EVERYTHING done by the new regime
Like I said, these cats will be Raiders fans again by preseason when our roster looks better than it did the last two years and we enter NEXT offseason with a boatload of cap room and our full gammot of draft picks – signing & drafting big name players
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I know right, its only a couple days into free agency etc… we have to atleast give him a chance right? Damn ya’ll need to smoke one and calm the fk down for a month or two
March 14th, 2013 at 6:00 pm
Realtruraider Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 5:52 pm
Obviously Reggie is just tryin to fill roster with stop gap type players and he plans on making up most of the roster with his draft picks in the longterm. I saw this type of comment somewhere else and its exactly what I have ben sayin. Look at Green Bays Roster, full of draft picks, yeah Reggie has alot of work to do to get to that point, but that is the plan.
Like I have ben saying, its the “Greenbay Way” and several other teams take this same approach that have ben very successful, Steelers and Ravens come to mind. We are goin to have to let him do his thing atleast for the next year, let him get another offseason and full draft and then we will truly have a better idea if its goin to work or if he is in over is head.
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The “build through the draft talk” is just pure nonsense.
Raiders have:
First round, No. 3
Third round, No. 4
Fourth round, No. 3
Sixth round, No. 4
Seventh round, No. 3
Seventh round, No. 13
Not much when you have something like 13 empty starter positions.
Maybe that First round, No. 3 and Third round, No. 4 will be starters. That’s a maybe.
March 14th, 2013 at 6:02 pm
I like how people are comparing how Reggie is doing to how AL did in his last 10 years.
So Since what AD did in the last 10 years didn’t show results, we should expect less from Reggie.
I want a winning team and expect a GM to provide that.
Are we really holding Reggie accountable to a lower standard because we have been bad in the past?
Oh I forgot, its the Salary Caps fault.
March 14th, 2013 at 6:04 pm
new signing, Adam Caplan of TheSidelineView.com scooped him by reporting that the former 49ers defensive lineman had agreed to a four-year, $22 million deal with the team.
There’s no word on guarantees or how the contract breaks down, but it’s a pretty nice contract for a player who has been a reserve for the 49ers throughout his career. He’s done a good job in the role and filled in well for Justin Smith when Smith was injured in the second half of last season, but he’ll still be asked to play the lion’s share of snaps for the first time in his career.
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Isn’t this player Des Bryant?
4 year 22 million is about what Bryant should have got, and was probably around what the GM offered.
March 14th, 2013 at 6:04 pm
The “build through the draft talk” is just pure nonsense.
Raiders have:
First round, No. 3
Third round, No. 4
Fourth round, No. 3
Sixth round, No. 4
Seventh round, No. 3
Seventh round, No. 13
Not much when you have something like 13 empty starter positions.
Maybe that First round, No. 3 and Third round, No. 4 will be starters. That’s a maybe.
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We’ve averaged 4 wins the last 10 years.
Reggie grew up in one of the finest personnel operations in the NFL. Al Davis is Dead. There’s a new day in Raiderville.
I’m sure he knows more than you.
March 14th, 2013 at 6:05 pm
Relentless Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 4:51 pm
So how many games do we win next year? Anyone know?
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Who said we’re going to win any ?
If Vegas had to put up a line right now on the number of RAIDER wins in 2013, it would have to be 4 or less.
And as much as it pains me to say this, the under 4 would seem like a sweet bet to me right now.
Of course that could change depending upon player acquistions through the draft and free agency – but let’s be realistic here – even with a solid free agent acquistion or two, and a good draft – are the RAIDS going to significantly improve their win total in 2013 ?
Doesn’t seem that a real impact free agent signing is going to happen. Might pick up some gems in the draft, but how much immediate impact can be expected via that avenue ? Unless you’re talking about a Luck or RGIII franchise QB game changer, it would be stretch to think a rookie draft pick alters the equation that much.
The deletion of the Krapp anchor might actually be the best hope that the RAIDER ship will reach higher win total waters in 2013.
As much as it pains me to say this, duplicating the 4 wins of last season might be a stretch.
I’ll tell you something else, I really don’t give a fvck how many games the RAIDS win in 2013.
I’m just hoping to see an infusion of young talent and a foundation being built for 2014 and beyond.
Jaded viewpoint ? Yup.
This is the NFL, and ‘worst to first’ happens quite a bit.
I just don’t see it happening for us in 2013.
March 14th, 2013 at 6:05 pm
The “build through the draft talk” is just pure nonsense.
Raiders have:
First round, No. 3
Third round, No. 4
Fourth round, No. 3
Sixth round, No. 4
Seventh round, No. 3
Seventh round, No. 13
Not much when you have something like 13 empty starter positions.
Maybe that First round, No. 3 and Third round, No. 4 will be starters. That’s a maybe.
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Thats why he is signing free agents, but they are not going to be the big flashy type deals that never seem to workout, give the guy a chance man….
March 14th, 2013 at 6:06 pm
No one can answer me when I’ve asked for 5 proven facts that Reggie has done to show that he has done a good job.
He’s purged an entire roster thats it (which anyone can do). Everything else has failed.
March 14th, 2013 at 6:07 pm
Rockstar.
I have been a die-hard fan for 30 years, long before Hue Jackson came here and will remain one long after Reggie Mckenzie is gone, wether that’s in 2 or in 20 years.
I call it like I see it, I have no agenda or internet persona to defend like so many losers in here.
Now back off, I want to win and that’s it.
March 14th, 2013 at 6:08 pm
Maybe that First round, No. 3 and Third round, No. 4 will be starters.
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Fisher – Rd 1 RT (year 1, O!)
OLB – rd 3
NT – rd 4
March 14th, 2013 at 6:08 pm
Reggie grew up in one of the finest Personnel operations in the NFL, with Super Bowl Rings to prove it.
What’s your credentials?
March 14th, 2013 at 6:09 pm
Oakland Raiders News @RaiderNewsFlash
Rumors swirl that Raiders maybe interested in Brian Urlacher. How True is it? I don’t know. Ask Adam Schefter
March 14th, 2013 at 6:09 pm
You guys act like we just hate Reggie and will always hate Reggie.
He needs to prove he can do the job. At this point I’m not even remotely convinced.
If he wins, I’ll completely change my stance and say I was wrong.
However, I don’t like relying on blind faith when common sense is telling me that this is a mess.
March 14th, 2013 at 6:09 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 6:04 pm
The “build through the draft talk” is just pure nonsense.
Raiders have:
First round, No. 3
Third round, No. 4
Fourth round, No. 3
Sixth round, No. 4
Seventh round, No. 3
Seventh round, No. 13
Not much when you have something like 13 empty starter positions.
Maybe that First round, No. 3 and Third round, No. 4 will be starters. That’s a maybe.
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We’ve averaged 4 wins the last 10 years.
Reggie grew up in one of the finest personnel operations in the NFL. Al Davis is Dead. There’s a new day in Raiderville.
I’m sure he knows more than you
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One-trick Pony speaks again.
March 14th, 2013 at 6:09 pm
The “build through the draft talk” is just pure nonsense.
Raiders have:
First round, No. 3
Third round, No. 4
Fourth round, No. 3
Sixth round, No. 4
Seventh round, No. 3
Seventh round, No. 13
Not much when you have something like 13 empty starter positions.
Maybe that First round, No. 3 and Third round, No. 4 will be starters. That’s a maybe.
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again.. i told u last night.. Reggie is gonna do trade downs if he can.. and of course next years draft and the year after.
This is not a 1 years make to the superbowl all or nothing type year. Get real
March 14th, 2013 at 6:10 pm
I want to win and that’s it.
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What are your thoughts on Palmer, DMac, D Moore, Ford, Reece, and Streater in the vertical power offense?
You don’t think those guys can put up points?
March 14th, 2013 at 6:12 pm
And again.. Reggie is gonna need enough money to sign his cornerstone players that are left. NEXT YEAR HOUSTON.. You still have Veldehere, Wiz Jr.. Branch.. those are the guys he is keeping.. DMOORE whom he called his number 1 last year..
and DMAC who he wants to resign. Reggie is more a Raider then anyone here
March 14th, 2013 at 6:12 pm
@Marley
what do Reggie & Dennis have to do to convert you?
retain Palmer regardless of the cost and replace Allen with Jackson as HC next offseason?
Because you know if we win 8 games this year, you’ll say Hue & Carson could have won the division
Just because you guys are GM’s on Madden doesn’t mean Reggie sucks because he doesn’t do things YOUR WAY
March 14th, 2013 at 6:13 pm
Of course the Raiders are interested in Brian Urlacher.
Why would Urlacher come to Oakland?????
March 14th, 2013 at 6:13 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 6:09 pm
The “build through the draft talk” is just pure nonsense.
Raiders have:
First round, No. 3
Third round, No. 4
Fourth round, No. 3
Sixth round, No. 4
Seventh round, No. 3
Seventh round, No. 13
Not much when you have something like 13 empty starter positions.
Maybe that First round, No. 3 and Third round, No. 4 will be starters. That’s a maybe.
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again.. i told u last night.. Reggie is gonna do trade downs if he can.. and of course next years draft and the year after.
This is not a 1 years make to the superbowl all or nothing type year. Get real
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“This is not a 1 years make to the superbowl all or nothing type year. Get real”
Yeah you said it. That’s why having Palmer on the roster right now with the biggest “out of whack” contract in the NFL is crappy GM work.
March 14th, 2013 at 6:14 pm
rudegruden Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 6:02 pm
I like how people are comparing how Reggie is doing to how AL did in his last 10 years.
So Since what AD did in the last 10 years didn’t show results, we should expect less from Reggie.
I want a winning team and expect a GM to provide that.
Are we really holding Reggie accountable to a lower standard because we have been bad in the past?
Oh I forgot, its the Salary Caps fault.
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I always had AD’s back and hate when fools talk down on him, but this is a new regime and we have to atleast give Big Reg a chance, we have to let him do his thing and hope it works out. If the roster doesn’t look better and we ain’t winning games next I will be singing another toon, but as of right now he gets my full support even though I don’t agree with everything he has done.
March 14th, 2013 at 6:15 pm
Reggie $ucks based on the product he puts on the field.
March 14th, 2013 at 6:16 pm
Reggie makes five million dollars a year.
We claim semi status on a blog
March 14th, 2013 at 6:16 pm
And again.. Reggie is gonna need enough money to sign his cornerstone players that are left. NEXT YEAR HOUSTON.. You still have Veldehere, Wiz Jr.. Branch.. those are the guys he is keeping.. DMOORE whom he called his number 1 last year..
and DMAC who he wants to resign. Reggie is more a Raider then anyone here
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Good points, man.
March 14th, 2013 at 6:17 pm
rudegruden Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 6:09 pm
You guys act like we just hate Reggie and will always hate Reggie.
He needs to prove he can do the job. At this point I’m not even remotely convinced.
If he wins, I’ll completely change my stance and say I was wrong.
However, I don’t like relying on blind faith when common sense is telling me that this is a mess.
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I am not relying on blind faith when I support McKenzie and Allen. I see the big picture. McKenzie and Allen have no money to work with. This is well documented. So when fans want to know why we didn’t go after say Joe Flacco, look, even if Flacco’s mom lived next to the Coliseum and he agreed to play for minimum wage we STILL couldn’t sign him. We couldn’t sign ANYONE. In fact we need to SHED salary. We had to last year, we had to this year. It’s not blind faith, it’s league rule.
And if McKenzie got rid of guys like Ryan Kalil and Vince Willfork, you might raise your eye brows, but every single guy he got rid of is either not doing that well with their new team (Mike Bush) or cut outright (Stan Routt).
March 14th, 2013 at 6:18 pm
Yeah you said it. That’s why having Palmer on the roster right now
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Its march 13.. calm down.. get back to me in TRAINING camp..and after the draft.. and after guys are cut from good teams ..and reggie is on that waiver wire.. and lets see how our teams looks
March 14th, 2013 at 6:21 pm
Realtruraider Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 6:14 pm
rudegruden Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 6:02 pm
I like how people are comparing how Reggie is doing to how AL did in his last 10 years.
So Since what AD did in the last 10 years didn’t show results, we should expect less from Reggie.
I want a winning team and expect a GM to provide that.
Are we really holding Reggie accountable to a lower standard because we have been bad in the past?
Oh I forgot, its the Salary Caps fault.
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I always had AD’s back and hate when fools talk down on him, but this is a new regime and we have to atleast give Big Reg a chance, we have to let him do his thing and hope it works out. If the roster doesn’t look better and we ain’t winning games next I will be singing another toon, but as of right now he gets my full support even though I don’t agree with everything he has done.
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Thats a very fair assessment. He does deserve the benefit of the doubt. I was on the fence and had my doubts and hoped he didn’t take tank this year. However, everything I’ve feared is coming true, so I’m much more skeptical now. I had this feeling about Chucky B and Knapp, and was told to be “patient” I’m trusting my instinct on this one. But completely understand the wait and see approach.
I might be rushing to judgement a year to early, but I’m convinced its not going to work. I’ll GLADLY reverse my stance, if we begin to win.
However, for those who saying he’s doing a good job are in denial.
March 14th, 2013 at 6:23 pm
Reggie is shopping at the 99 cent store, trying to get bargain basement. he may find some gems still.
I like this Samoan LB they just got, pair that guy with Manti Teo & Burris, then we may have some serious playmakers at LB.
DA wont be here in 2014 after team goes 4-12. So Reggie is setting this thing up for Gruden, having Olson already in place to be his OC, like Tampa days.
March 14th, 2013 at 6:23 pm
You nut bags think Reggie just de-constructed the World Champs?
March 14th, 2013 at 6:23 pm
Steve Corkran@CorkOnTheNFL
“@mrmulligan2269: @CorkOnTheNFL Any idea about Reggie Mac’s plan to turn it around? — Build through the draft, spend wisely, stick to plan.
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Cork gets it, he must be reading the blog
March 14th, 2013 at 6:24 pm
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 6:15 pm
Reggie $ucks based on the product he puts on the field.
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What else would you expect. Not his fault IHOP doesn’t do a better job puttin FAs on the menu.
But hey, maybe Reggies next signing will be a ‘build your own stack’ for 4.99 or a custom waffle.
March 14th, 2013 at 6:25 pm
You nut bags think Reggie just de-constructed the World Champs?
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haha we were the Pats dynasty years!!
March 14th, 2013 at 6:25 pm
Seymour Bush.
Are you just pretending not to be aware that we entered Free Agency with 16 million in cap space available and can expand it to 23 if we want to and more money, close to 30 million? can be had by cutting Kelly and McClain?.
March 14th, 2013 at 6:25 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 6:17 pm
rudegruden Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 6:09 pm
You guys act like we just hate Reggie and will always hate Reggie.
He needs to prove he can do the job. At this point I’m not even remotely convinced.
If he wins, I’ll completely change my stance and say I was wrong.
However, I don’t like relying on blind faith when common sense is telling me that this is a mess.
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I am not relying on blind faith when I support McKenzie and Allen. I see the big picture. McKenzie and Allen have no money to work with. This is well documented. So when fans want to know why we didn’t go after say Joe Flacco, look, even if Flacco’s mom lived next to the Coliseum and he agreed to play for minimum wage we STILL couldn’t sign him. We couldn’t sign ANYONE. In fact we need to SHED salary. We had to last year, we had to this year. It’s not blind faith, it’s league rule.
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Thats where I disagree. As a GM, your job is to get guys here. Part of the job is recruiting. Yeah it might be hard, but thats his job. I don’t buy the no one wants to be here.
Another reason why winning now is so important. Last year was on Reggie and it cost us big. To regress to what happened last year set us back 2-3 years in my opinion for this exact reason. There was no reason for us to be that bad last year.
Now he has to work harder to clean up the mess he put himself into. Thats his job and I expect him to do his job.
March 14th, 2013 at 6:26 pm
DA wont be here in 2014 after team goes 4-12. So Reggie is setting this thing up for Gruden, having Olson already in place to be his OC, like Tampa days
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Bold Statement
March 14th, 2013 at 6:27 pm
Reggie is here for some 2-3 more years at least.
D Allen is gone after this year. NO way the team wins more than 4-5 games, with the way Denver & KC are building it.
Raiders will get top draft picks next year, and Reggie will have more picks.
March 14th, 2013 at 6:27 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 6:17 pm
rudegruden Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 6:09 pm
You guys act like we just hate Reggie and will always hate Reggie.
He needs to prove he can do the job. At this point I’m not even remotely convinced.
If he wins, I’ll completely change my stance and say I was wrong.
However, I don’t like relying on blind faith when common sense is telling me that this is a mess.
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I am not relying on blind faith when I support McKenzie and Allen. I see the big picture. McKenzie and Allen have no money to work with. This is well documented. So when fans want to know why we didn’t go after say Joe Flacco, look, even if Flacco’s mom lived next to the Coliseum and he agreed to play for minimum wage we STILL couldn’t sign him. We couldn’t sign ANYONE. In fact we need to SHED salary. We had to last year, we had to this year. It’s not blind faith, it’s league rule.
And if McKenzie got rid of guys like Ryan Kalil and Vince Willfork, you might raise your eye brows, but every single guy he got rid of is either not doing that well with their new team (Mike Bush) or cut outright (Stan Routt).
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You are another blame the cap money guy uh?
Cutting Palmer, Kelly, McClain along with the other cuts would give the raiders a little over $35 mil in REAL cap space. The dead money from these players can be split over 2 years which would be about $43 mil this year and the total next year would be minimal. By contrast the colts have $38 mil in dead money but who cares.
A legitimate rebuild could or could have took place instead of half ass duck taping. Half ass cuts and dumpster diving is not how you build a team.
Fire Reggie!
March 14th, 2013 at 6:28 pm
Raider E Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 6:26 pm
DA wont be here in 2014 after team goes 4-12. So Reggie is setting this thing up for Gruden, having Olson already in place to be his OC, like Tampa days
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Bold Statement
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If this was Reggie’s plan then I would feel much better about the situation. At least he had a plan and what he has been doing makes sense.
March 14th, 2013 at 6:28 pm
…don’t forget holmgren.
March 14th, 2013 at 6:29 pm
http://www.sportsworldreport.com/articles/11874/20130314/oakland-raiders-free-agent-rumors-brian-urlacher-james-harrison-targets.htm
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if Reggie reels in these two guys he’ll still be an idiot to 95% of you clueless bloggers
March 14th, 2013 at 6:30 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 6:29 pm
http://www.sportsworldreport.com/articles/11874/20130314/oakland-raiders-free-agent-rumors-brian-urlacher-james-harrison-targets.htm
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if Reggie reels in these two guys he’ll still be an idiot to 95% of you clueless bloggers
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Aren’t you the same guy who said keeping Palmer is stupid because he’s not the long term solution?
March 14th, 2013 at 6:31 pm
A legitimate rebuild could or could have took place instead of half ass duck taping. Half ass cuts and dumpster diving is not how you build a team.
Fire Reggie!
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Reggie grew up in one of the finest Personnel operations in the NFL, with Super Bowl Rings to prove it.
What’s your credentials?
March 14th, 2013 at 6:32 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 6:31 pm
A legitimate rebuild could or could have took place instead of half ass duck taping. Half ass cuts and dumpster diving is not how you build a team.
Fire Reggie!
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Reggie grew up in one of the finest Personnel operations in the NFL, with Super Bowl Rings to prove it.
What’s your credentials?
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Do we evaluate performance based on a resume or results?
March 14th, 2013 at 6:32 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 6:31 pm
A legitimate rebuild could or could have took place instead of half ass duck taping. Half ass cuts and dumpster diving is not how you build a team.
Fire Reggie!
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Reggie grew up in one of the finest Personnel operations in the NFL, with Super Bowl Rings to prove it.
What’s your credentials?
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Common sense
March 14th, 2013 at 6:32 pm
Good teams make minor tweaks and a couple of aquisitions. We were that close in 2011. A few tweaks and a couple of aquisitions and we’re a contender. Now, we’re looking at a ten and then. Just doesn’t make sense. 2-14. As painful as that is, that’s a cold hard fact. Not even the prettiest stack of blueberry waffles with whipped cream can ease the pain. It’ll help, but won’t be good enough.
March 14th, 2013 at 6:32 pm
Rockstar.
What’s your point?.
You are bitter because you told us how the 2012 Raiders were going to be much better with DA in charge and Hue out, as it turns out, you like many others including Seymour Bush fell flat on your face and you can’t get over it.
Let it go kid.
Time to focus on how Reggie is doing.
March 14th, 2013 at 6:32 pm
I just read this blog and looked out the window and wouldn’t you know it? The sky fell!
March 14th, 2013 at 6:33 pm
Rude,
keeping Palmer is stupid because he’s a proven loser with an “out of whack” contract
March 14th, 2013 at 6:33 pm
we know people that know Desmond very well,” Browns CEO Joe Banner said. “Our new strength coach [Brad Roll] was with him in Oakland last year.
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There you go, Chris and Priest.
Roll talked him up in Cleveland. His #1 workout warrior while he was here.
March 14th, 2013 at 6:33 pm
McClain is the only one it costs money to release. I am really not sure what Reggie is going to do with him.
On one hand, he can’t have a guy like Rolando in the locker room after all his arrests and the suspension, but on the other he is conserving cap space and it actually hurts the cap to release him.
I really want to be in his head on this one. He can’t realistically get any more then a 7th round pick for him, so what is the hold up on releasing him?
7th rounders = UDFA’s
Reggie is not thinking we go 3-4 with Sims at NT, and giving Rolando another chance in a scheme that fits his skills, is he?
March 14th, 2013 at 6:34 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 6:31 pm
A legitimate rebuild could or could have took place instead of half ass duck taping. Half ass cuts and dumpster diving is not how you build a team.
Fire Reggie!
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Reggie grew up in one of the finest Personnel operations in the NFL, with Super Bowl Rings to prove it.
What’s your credentials?
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I’m a fan.
4-12, what is your credentials.
March 14th, 2013 at 6:34 pm
I do however believe if the right guy was out there Reggie would go after him, yes even this year, I think if Dumervil becomes available Reggie will try to get him, but he won’t pay crazy if the bidding gets out of hand.
March 14th, 2013 at 6:35 pm
RaidO Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 6:32 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 6:31 pm
A legitimate rebuild could or could have took place instead of half ass duck taping. Half ass cuts and dumpster diving is not how you build a team.
Fire Reggie!
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Reggie grew up in one of the finest Personnel operations in the NFL, with Super Bowl Rings to prove it.
What’s your credentials?
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Common sense
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Dead Common, unfortunately. What NFL personnel dept. did you work in? How many Super Bowl rings do you have, doing so?
March 14th, 2013 at 6:35 pm
IHOP Field Stadium, House of the Oaklnad Raiders
March 14th, 2013 at 6:36 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 6:33 pm
Rude,
keeping Palmer is stupid because he’s a proven loser with an “out of whack” contract
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Let’s here your solution at the QB position for 2013 again? I need a good laugh
March 14th, 2013 at 6:36 pm
As a GM, your job is to get guys here. Part of the job is recruiting. Yeah it might be hard, but thats his job.
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True.
March 14th, 2013 at 6:37 pm
Dunno Raider Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 6:32 pm
Good teams make minor tweaks and a couple of aquisitions. We were that close in 2011. A few tweaks and a couple of aquisitions and we’re a contender. Now, we’re looking at a ten and then. Just doesn’t make sense. 2-14. As painful as that is, that’s a cold hard fact. Not even the prettiest stack of blueberry waffles with whipped cream can ease the pain. It’ll help, but won’t be good enough.
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Yeah I hear you man. I was one of those get DMAC back, cut down on the penalties, and fix the defense guys after 2011. Damn things have changed
March 14th, 2013 at 6:37 pm
I have faith in the Reggie. Hes a top notch evaluator. After AD passes, Mark Davis goes to Ron Wolf. First guy Wolf recommends is Reggie.
This years the Chargers go to Wolf again, they hire Telesco, but KC hires a ex Green Bay guy, John Dorsey.
John Dorsey was the next Reggie coming out of the Green Bay personnel department.
So we may have somebody here that knows a thing or two. We gotta hold tight here and wait it out for a season or two.
March 14th, 2013 at 6:37 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 6:35 pm
RaidO Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 6:32 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 6:31 pm
A legitimate rebuild could or could have took place instead of half ass duck taping. Half ass cuts and dumpster diving is not how you build a team.
Fire Reggie!
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Reggie grew up in one of the finest Personnel operations in the NFL, with Super Bowl Rings to prove it.
What’s your credentials?
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Common sense
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Dead Common, unfortunately. What NFL personnel dept. did you work in? How many Super Bowl rings do you have, doing so?
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Come on KK. That argument is just awful.
Its like saying we can’t say Brady Quinn isn’t good because we haven’t been a QB in the nil.
Just a silly argument.
March 14th, 2013 at 6:38 pm
Who ever imagined our defense coulda gotten worse after the Bresnahan experiment?
March 14th, 2013 at 6:39 pm
Reggie is not thinking we go 3-4 with Sims at NT, and giving Rolando another chance in a scheme that fits his skills, is he?
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I hope we can salvage one of our damn picks, man.
March 14th, 2013 at 6:39 pm
Good luck with that around here JT!
March 14th, 2013 at 6:40 pm
Desmond Bryant wants to move on from mug shot
Posted by Darin Gantt on March 14, 2013, 8:43 PM EDT
Desmond Bryant knows everyone’s laughing at the picture.
But he’s not going to keep talking about the unfortunate photo that made him an internet sensation long before the Browns made him a rich man.
“I’ve seen the picture and I’ve heard that it’s out, but I really don’t know to what extent,” Bryant said, via Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer. “I’ve really already kind of addressed that whole situation. It’s an ongoing legal matter and I’m not supposed to talk too much about it.”
That’s fine, but it won’t go away, as he became the butt of jokes around the web for the eyes-half-open, tongue-half-out look on his face after he was arrested on criminal mischief charges.
The Browns obviously didn’t mind, as they gave him a five-year, $34 million deal on the first day of free agency.
“We looked at everything we could, we know people that know Desmond very well,” Browns CEO Joe Banner said. “Our new strength coach [Brad Roll] was with him in Oakland last year. So we evaluated the situation, we looked at his history and felt very comfortable that he fit the profile of what we’re looking for here.”
Bryant, who went to Harvard, was also arrested in 2010 for his role in a beating in a convenience store parking lot (link includes a more conventional mug shot) in Myrtle Beach, S.C.
“I obviously made a mistake,” he said Thursday of the most recent arrest. “I apologize for everything that happened, but I feel like I’ve learned from it and moved on. I think I’ve done enough over the years I’ve been in the league to exhibit that’s really not the kind of person I am. I think in time I’ll be able to show you guys and whoever else wants to know that’s really not indicative of me. It was an accident. I’ve moved beyond that and hopefully everybody else will be able to.”
That’s probably unlikely, but his behavior off the field (and sadly, his play on it) will allow people to make up their own mind what kind of person he is.
March 14th, 2013 at 6:40 pm
Come on KK. That argument is just awful.
Its like saying we can’t say Brady Quinn isn’t good because we haven’t been a QB in the nil.
Just a silly argument.
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No way in hell you nut bags are in position to evaluate a GM after 1 year.
Not talking about Brady Quinn, dumbass.
March 14th, 2013 at 6:40 pm
Dunno Raider Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 6:38 pm
Who ever imagined our defense coulda gotten worse after the Bresnahan experiment?
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Yeah, I remember saying multiple times “at least our D can’t get any worse and we can keep the offense going”
March 14th, 2013 at 6:41 pm
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Come on KK. That argument is just awful.
Its like saying we can’t say Brady Quinn isn’t good because we haven’t been a QB in the nil.
Just a silly argument.
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This is the argument KK stayed awake all night contemplating and today he going to repeat it 100 times.
One Trick Pony
March 14th, 2013 at 6:41 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 6:40 pm
Come on KK. That argument is just awful.
Its like saying we can’t say Brady Quinn isn’t good because we haven’t been a QB in the nil.
Just a silly argument.
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No way in hell you nut bags are in position to evaluate a GM after 1 year.
Not talking about Brady Quinn, dumbass.
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Its called an analogy.
Dumbass?…it has come to that. Good conversation.
March 14th, 2013 at 6:42 pm
Wiki pedia time:
McKenzie was employed by the Green Bay Packers from 1994 to 2012. He began as a scout, and gradually rose through the ranks to become the Packers’ director of player personnel and eventually the team’s director of football operations, while reporting to general managers Ron Wolf and Ted Thompson.
McKenzie was hired as general manager of the Oakland Raiders on January 5, 2012. Longtime owner Al Davis had been general manager since 1966, and retained control over football operations after becoming principal owner in 1972.
Both Wolf (who had worked in the Raiders front office prior to his Green Bay tenure) and former Raiders coach John Madden recommended McKenzie to new owner Mark Davis, who hired McKenzie after an interview conducted jointly by Davis and Madden.
March 14th, 2013 at 6:42 pm
Not impressed by the job Reggie’s done so far.
He whiffed in his attempts to revamp the OL.
Briesel and Smith ? FAIL.
Bergstrom ? We’ll see, but not looking good. Couldn’t crack this lineup ?
Bartell and Spencer ? FAIL.
And of course, there’s the TITS and KRAPP debacle.
Reggie better not fvck up this draft, because although his track record hasn’t been completely terrible, he’s certainly made some significant mistakes and has alot to prove.
March 14th, 2013 at 6:43 pm
Browns CEO Joe Banner said. “Our new strength coach [Brad Roll] was with him in Oakland last year.
Really Brad Roll the Anti Christ of Conditioning.
Mr Hammy himself. If the Browns hired this guy i guarantee they deal with nothing but Hammy issues.
March 14th, 2013 at 6:43 pm
No way in hell you nut bags are in position to evaluate a GM after 1 year following Al Davis and 7 winning seasons in the last 23 yrs.
Not talking about Brady Quinn, dumbass.
March 14th, 2013 at 6:46 pm
RM99 you missed Mckenzie picking up Phillip wheeler out of the junk pile and only paying him $750,000 for the year. Now look at him he’s getting overpaid in Miami.
March 14th, 2013 at 6:46 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 6:43 pm
No way in hell you nut bags are in position to evaluate a GM after 1 year following Al Davis and 7 winning seasons in the last 23 yrs.
Not talking about Brady Quinn, dumbass.
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I think KK learned to copy and paste and his testing it out.
March 14th, 2013 at 6:46 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 6:43 pm
No way in hell you nut bags are in position to evaluate a GM after 1 year following Al Davis and 7 winning seasons in the last 23 yrs.
Not talking about Brady Quinn, dumbass.
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You already said that in the above post,Dumbass.
One trick pony
March 14th, 2013 at 6:46 pm
I loved the Reggie hire more than anyone, seemed like the perfect move, former Raider recommended by AD’s former Lieutenants, we wete keeping the Raider tradition alive and bringing in a guy with a solid resume from a good franchise.
I remain a huge fan of Reggie and hope everything works out for the best, but that does not mean I have to try and justify every move he makes as some people in here do.
Reggie is gonna f up a few things up, every GM does including the very best, deal with it.
March 14th, 2013 at 6:46 pm
You nut bags forget, Reggie could still sign Javon Walker before the season starts and make all of you nut jobs happy.
March 14th, 2013 at 6:47 pm
Really Brad Roll the Anti Christ of Conditioning.
Mr Hammy himself. If the Browns hired this guy i guarantee they deal with nothing but Hammy issues.
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Now this is funny.
March 14th, 2013 at 6:48 pm
we know people that know Desmond very well,” Browns CEO Joe Banner said. “Our new strength coach [Brad Roll] was with him in Oakland last year.
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There you go, Chris and Priest.
Roll talked him up in Cleveland. His #1 workout warrior while he was here.
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how embarassing .. Owner of team saying the Stregnth coach got him there got 34 million.. do they watch FILM?? lmao
March 14th, 2013 at 6:49 pm
RM99 you missed Mckenzie picking up Phillip wheeler out of the junk pile and only paying him $750,000 for the year. Now look at him he’s getting overpaid in Miami.
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So now were a farm club for the real NFL teams? If he was that good he would have signed him for 2 years at that price and just cut him if it didn’t work out.
March 14th, 2013 at 6:50 pm
Wheeler will be cut within two years.. they will have cap problems and he will be the first to go
Karlos Dansby is better then ellerbe and Wheeler and he is gone
March 14th, 2013 at 6:51 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 6:09 pm
Oakland Raiders News @RaiderNewsFlash
Rumors swirl that Raiders maybe interested in Brian Urlacher. How True is it? I don’t know. Ask Adam Schefter
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Probably just a rumor his agent is floating – trying to make it look like a lot of teams are interested. Same rumors have floated about him and Dallas.
He’ll want more money than the Raiders want to give him. and that’s a good thing. He’s old. This isn’t 2005 Urlacher.
March 14th, 2013 at 6:51 pm
Raider E Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 6:49 pm
RM99 you missed Mckenzie picking up Phillip wheeler out of the junk pile and only paying him $750,000 for the year. Now look at him he’s getting overpaid in Miami.
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So now were a farm club for the real NFL teams? If he was that good he would have signed him for 2 years at that price and just cut him if it didn’t work out.
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Yes!yes!
March 14th, 2013 at 6:53 pm
Like I said earlier, there’s still plenty of time for Reggie to make a few solid moves and then kill the draft with 3 picks in the top 100.
March 14th, 2013 at 6:54 pm
Micheal Marshell ( I got 5 on it) tonight at the Blue Lamp in Sac.
See ya there.
I think i got 2 bucks in my back pack…
March 14th, 2013 at 6:54 pm
RaidingTexas Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 6:51 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 6:09 pm
Oakland Raiders News @RaiderNewsFlash
Rumors swirl that Raiders maybe interested in Brian Urlacher. How True is it? I don’t know. Ask Adam Schefter
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Probably just a rumor his agent is floating – trying to make it look like a lot of teams are interested. Same rumors have floated about him and Dallas.
He’ll want more money than the Raiders want to give him. and that’s a good thing. He’s old. This isn’t 2005 Urlacher.
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Raiders did just sign a 35 year old CB. Reggie likes duck taping.
March 14th, 2013 at 6:55 pm
phillip wheeler said he didn’t know if this was the place for him because he didn’t know who’d be here next year…. didn’t exactly sound like a guy hoping to be back in the silver and black
March 14th, 2013 at 6:55 pm
Rudegruden Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 6:46 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 6:43 pm
No way in hell you nut bags are in position to evaluate a GM after 1 year following Al Davis and 7 winning seasons in the last 23 yrs.
Not talking about Brady Quinn, dumbass.
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I think KK learned to copy and paste and his testing it out.
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Yup, they gotta rip on Al to justify every meaningless decision Shreg does.
March 14th, 2013 at 6:56 pm
Nobodys talking about the Job Elways is doing in Denver. Oh my, that team is going to be a monster again his year, Welker & Manning, F!
Who would have tought of Qb #7 being a good GM…. jeez…
March 14th, 2013 at 6:56 pm
http://www.sportsworldreport.com/articles/11874/20130314/oakland-raiders-free-agent-rumors-brian-urlacher-james-harrison-targets.htm
March 14th, 2013 at 6:56 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 6:50 pm
Wheeler will be cut within two years.. they will have cap problems and he will be the first to go
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Yep. Miami took a cue from hometown Marlins. Go all out on overpriced vets, try to win right away. Then blow it up, win or lose.
Worked a couple of times for them (Marlins that is). Finally bit them in the arse last year. I hate that team.
March 14th, 2013 at 6:58 pm
JT Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 6:56 pm
Nobodys talking about the Job Elways is doing in Denver. Oh my, that team is going to be a monster again his year, Welker & Manning, F!
Who would have tought of Qb #7 being a good GM…. jeez…
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You are an ass for saying that.
Its true though.
March 14th, 2013 at 6:58 pm
that was bogus
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2013/3/14/4106332/report-terence-newman-to-sign-with-raiders
March 14th, 2013 at 6:59 pm
Yup, they gotta rip on Al to justify every meaningless decision Shreg does.
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Frankly, it’s dumbasses like you who need to let Al Davis rest.
March 14th, 2013 at 6:59 pm
JT Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 6:37 pm
I have faith in the Reggie. Hes a top notch evaluator. After AD passes, Mark Davis goes to Ron Wolf. First guy Wolf recommends is Reggie.
This years the Chargers go to Wolf again, they hire Telesco, but KC hires a ex Green Bay guy, John Dorsey.
John Dorsey was the next Reggie coming out of the Green Bay personnel department.
So we may have somebody here that knows a thing or two. We gotta hold tight here and wait it out for a season or two.
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and ron wolfs sons get promoted…but im sure that didnt have anything to do with it
March 14th, 2013 at 7:00 pm
Raider E Says:
So now were a farm club for the real NFL teams? If he was that good he would have signed him for 2 years at that price and just cut him if it didn’t work out.
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Where’d all those free agents out there come from? The Raiders?
And all the ones that signed with other teams. Doubt that the Raiders are over represented out there.
March 14th, 2013 at 7:00 pm
Bob Marley Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 6:32 pm
Rockstar.
What’s your point?.
You are bitter because you told us how the 2012 Raiders were going to be much better with DA in charge and Hue out, as it turns out, you like many others including Seymour Bush fell flat on your face and you can’t get over it.
Let it go kid.
Time to focus on how Reggie is doing.
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What the fu** dude? When did I say this team was going to be good? I KNEW we were taking a step back in 2012. You are still holding on to Hue Jacksons balls. Good for you. Don’t let go of ‘em.
March 14th, 2013 at 7:00 pm
signing a 34 year old corner….yikes reggie….fckn yikes
March 14th, 2013 at 7:02 pm
RaidO Says:
Raiders did just sign a 35 year old CB. Reggie likes duck taping.
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Who?
March 14th, 2013 at 7:02 pm
KoolKell Says:
Frankly, it’s dumbasses like you who need to let Al Davis rest.
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Here’s a KK response for KK.
Shut up, Al Davis bootlicking dumbass.
March 14th, 2013 at 7:04 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 7:00 pm
Bob Marley Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 6:32 pm
Rockstar.
What’s your point?.
You are bitter because you told us how the 2012 Raiders were going to be much better with DA in charge and Hue out, as it turns out, you like many others including Seymour Bush fell flat on your face and you can’t get over it.
Let it go kid.
Time to focus on how Reggie is doing.
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What the fu** dude? When did I say this team was going to be good? I KNEW we were taking a step back in 2012. You are still holding on to Hue Jacksons balls. Good for you. Don’t let go of ‘em.
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I am pretty sure most on here have moved away from “8-8 with potential” to “4-12 WTF?”
Well, maybe not the Palmer lovers.
March 14th, 2013 at 7:05 pm
Sean Smith 4 INTS in 4 yrs.. someone who Dolphins were glad to see walk away… he was there version of Stanford Routt.
Glad Raiders didnt over pay
March 14th, 2013 at 7:05 pm
J Hill Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 6:33 pm
we know people that know Desmond very well,” Browns CEO Joe Banner said. “Our new strength coach [Brad Roll] was with him in Oakland last year.
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There you go, Chris and Priest.
Roll talked him up in Cleveland. His #1 workout warrior while he was here
March 14th, 2013 at 7:05 pm
Something tells me if Reggie had signed Bryant and Wheeler to those deals the same people bashing the Browns and Dolphins would be praising the big guy for finding a way to keep them.
Be honest people.
I would have resigned Bryant but not Wheeler.
March 14th, 2013 at 7:06 pm
Rudegruden Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 6:58 pm
JT Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 6:56 pm
Nobodys talking about the Job Elways is doing in Denver. Oh my, that team is going to be a monster again his year, Welker & Manning, F!
Who would have tought of Qb #7 being a good GM…. jeez…
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You are an ass for saying that.
Its true though.
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This AFC West is going to be some tough division, just saying that Elway, who would of thought.
The Reggie will come trough tough.
March 14th, 2013 at 7:07 pm
Raider E Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 6:49 pm
RM99 you missed Mckenzie picking up Phillip wheeler out of the junk pile and only paying him $750,000 for the year. Now look at him he’s getting overpaid in Miami.
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Nope. Didn’t miss it.
Signing Wheels was an excellent move. Not being able to retain him is another matter.
Streeter as an UDFA seems like a win for Reggie as well.
Not going to be overly critical of his first draft either. I like Burris and Bilukidi might be a find. Too soon to know about Bergs, Craw and Criner. We’ll see.
Like I said, he’s made some good moves.
Not going to second guess him too much about not signing DBRYANT.
Applaud him for dumping the useless turd named HUFF.
No, Reggie hasn’t been a complete disaster.
But he has made some serious mistakes.
TITS will prove to be the worst one of all.
March 14th, 2013 at 7:07 pm
Bob Marley Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 7:05 pm
Something tells me if Reggie had signed Bryant and Wheeler to those deals the same people bashing the Browns and Dolphins would be praising the big guy for finding a way to keep them.
Be honest people.
I would have resigned Bryant but not Wheeler.
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probably right, the kool aid tastes real good
March 14th, 2013 at 7:08 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 7:05 pm
J Hill Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 6:33 pm
we know people that know Desmond very well,” Browns CEO Joe Banner said. “Our new strength coach [Brad Roll] was with him in Oakland last year.
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There you go, Chris and Priest.
Roll talked him up in Cleveland. His #1 workout warrior while he was here
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I appreciate the endorsement. Not to boast but I could’ve told him. That kid is legit man. Why do you think I went nuts when we lost him kids like him are gems you just don’t lose them and go, Oh Well!.
That hurts this Org.
March 14th, 2013 at 7:08 pm
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 7:00 pm
Raider E Says:
So now were a farm club for the real NFL teams? If he was that good he would have signed him for 2 years at that price and just cut him if it didn’t work out.
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Where’d all those free agents out there come from? The Raiders?
And all the ones that signed with other teams. Doubt that the Raiders are over represented out there.
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My post was in response to someone talking up the Wheeler signing. Your misrepresenting it.
March 14th, 2013 at 7:08 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 6:59 pm
Yup, they gotta rip on Al to justify every meaningless decision Shreg does.
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Frankly, it’s dumbasses like you who need to let Al Davis rest.
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Says the guy who references Al Davis every 3rd post.
March 14th, 2013 at 7:09 pm
00tt00 Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 6:59 pm
JT Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 6:37 pm
I have faith in the Reggie. Hes a top notch evaluator. After AD passes, Mark Davis goes to Ron Wolf. First guy Wolf recommends is Reggie.
This years the Chargers go to Wolf again, they hire Telesco, but KC hires a ex Green Bay guy, John Dorsey.
John Dorsey was the next Reggie coming out of the Green Bay personnel department.
So we may have somebody here that knows a thing or two. We gotta hold tight here and wait it out for a season or two.
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and ron wolfs sons get promoted…but im sure that didnt have anything to do with it
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Wolf hired the Reggie to be a scout, Reggie worked is but and rose trough the system.
If Al Davis offered Hue the GM job, he may have approved of the Reggie too.
March 14th, 2013 at 7:09 pm
Something tells me if Reggie had signed Bryant and Wheeler to those deals the same people bashing the Browns and Dolphins would be praising the big guy for finding a way to keep them.
Be honest people.
I would have resigned Bryant but not Wheeler.
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I wouldnt .. I would be another crazy contract like Kelly, Huff, ROutt for average play
March 14th, 2013 at 7:11 pm
http://blogs.nfl.com/2013/03/14/entire-oakland-raiders-staff-witnesses-cals-pro-day/
March 14th, 2013 at 7:12 pm
and ron wolfs sons get promoted…but im sure that didnt have anything to do with it
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Who else what have Wolf recommended? He hasn’t been involved in the NFL for 10 years & that’s who Mark goes to. Jesus, Hue could have been a resource to tap into the Ravens drafting tree and go from there, but everyone cried that since Hue wanted to assist in the GM search it was a power grab.
BTW just cuz Wolf noted him doesn’t mean everything. He gave Al crap for sticking with Upshaw when he wanted Harry Jones. No matter how great you are, you can make a mistake
March 14th, 2013 at 7:12 pm
Oh ok, I see some obscure radio guy is claiming Newman will sign, even though just 10 minutes ago JerryMac posted an article saying Newman will work out for the Raiders.
But let’s be real, Newman is not going to get Urlacher money. He’ll be cheaper and less risky. He’s definitely worth a shot. At a minimum he provides depth.
I stand by my suggestion that it’s just Urlacher’s agent floating crap out there to try and get a better deal for a former stud LB nobody is showing much interest in anymore.
March 14th, 2013 at 7:12 pm
Adam Schefter@AdamSchefter
Raiders free-agent DE Matt Shaughnessy is visiting Cardinals, then Titans on Friday and possibly Eagles if no other deal done.
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March 14th, 2013 at 7:13 pm
Something tells me if Reggie had signed Bryant and Wheeler to those deals the same people bashing the Browns and Dolphins would be praising the big guy for finding a way to keep them.
Be honest people.
I would have resigned Bryant but not Wheeler.
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Bob, You have to reward these kids when they do exactly what you as an Org. want them to and pay their dues with hard work and development. That is hard to replace, I really liked that kid.
March 14th, 2013 at 7:13 pm
The_Civilian_James_Trapp Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 7:08 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 6:59 pm
Yup, they gotta rip on Al to justify every meaningless decision Shreg does.
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Frankly, it’s dumbasses like you who need to let Al Davis rest.
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Says the guy who references Al Davis every 3rd post.
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Bootlicker, Al Davis is Dead. He had 7 winning seasons in the last 23 years. No, Reggie is not going to do it that way. Nor should he. Get ova it.
March 14th, 2013 at 7:15 pm
Bob Marley Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 7:05 pm
Something tells me if Reggie had signed Bryant and Wheeler to those deals the same people bashing the Browns and Dolphins would be praising the big guy for finding a way to keep them.
Be honest people.
I would have resigned Bryant but not Wheeler.
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Agreed at that cost.
However, Reggie should have signed these guys in the middle of last year
March 14th, 2013 at 7:15 pm
Adam Schefter@AdamSchefter
On the day Kenny Phillips signed with the Eagles, the Giants announced they signed former Steelers safety Ryan Mundy.
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March 14th, 2013 at 7:16 pm
Kell, drop the pom poms and back away from Reggie’s sack, you one trick pony.
March 14th, 2013 at 7:17 pm
Maybe Reggie knew that Bryant had a drinking problem. He didn’t like the risk in it.
March 14th, 2013 at 7:17 pm
i like shaughnessey too, but reggie getting the benefit of the doubt from me at this point. i’m assuming he had an amount he offered (wheeler says there was interest from Raiders for instance) and he’s not budging from that amount, i can dig it
March 14th, 2013 at 7:19 pm
Shaughessy to visit Cardinals
Posted by Mike Florio on March 14, 2013, 8:26 PM EDT
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As the free-agency period continues to unfold (it’s still barely two days old), more and more players are taking visits.
One of them will be defensive end Matt Shaughnessy, who we’re told is on his way to Arizona for a visit with the Cardinals.
Shaugnessy entered the league in 2009 as a third-round pick, started all 16 games last season for the Raiders. At 6-5 and 285 pounds, Shaughnessy can rush the passer and stop the run.
Don’t rule out a short-term deal for Shaughnessy, a prominent role in 2013, and then a return to the market in 2014, for a bigger payday.
March 14th, 2013 at 7:19 pm
RaidingTexas Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 7:12 pm
Oh ok, I see some obscure radio guy is claiming Newman will sign, even though just 10 minutes ago JerryMac posted an article saying Newman will work out for the Raiders.
But let’s be real, Newman is not going to get Urlacher money. He’ll be cheaper and less risky. He’s definitely worth a shot. At a minimum he provides depth.
I stand by my suggestion that it’s just Urlacher’s agent floating crap out there to try and get a better deal for a former stud LB nobody is showing much interest in anymore.
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Exactly. A MLB with 13 years in the league? There can’t be a lot of tread left on his tires.
March 14th, 2013 at 7:19 pm
Adam Schefter@AdamSchefter
RT @mikerodak: The Patriots will host DE John Abraham tomorrow, @MikeReiss confirms
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March 14th, 2013 at 7:21 pm
The players that really sting are DVD, Bush, Bryant, Campbell and Barksdale because they were unnecessary loses. Bush got minimal $ and if he moves earlier he signs Bryant $25-28 with 12 gauarnteed. the kid is happy and the other kids see the Org. isn’t cheap.
What we’re doing is setting precedent and players know it. The way DHB and those kids worked at some point you show appreciation and it spreads around the league. I know DHB was making too much $$ so I understand that move but the kids who weren’t you telling your other players you are not a loyal Org. as soon as they start to prove themselves start looking for somewhere else to go. Because the Raiders wont pay.
That’s why I’m wondering what is Reggie’s plan it seems to have no ryhme or reason. Terrence Newman?? REALLY!!
March 14th, 2013 at 7:21 pm
Priest, I agree with Des Bryant. My question to you right now is: Do we get a deal for Shaughnessy before we lose him? I say bring him back.
March 14th, 2013 at 7:22 pm
If you nut jobs don’t want me to mention Al Davis, quit telling me what Al would do, ok?
March 14th, 2013 at 7:24 pm
U know dont know if Reggie offerend Bryant a deal.
the 3 day window hurt.. cuz Bryants Agent knew what other teams were offering and he turned down a deal with raiders and sign on TUesday.
Same with wheeler. Reggie was offering a fair deal and other teams overpaid. simple as that
March 14th, 2013 at 7:24 pm
every good team has a mix of young and vets, he’s looking for hard nosed good value players
March 14th, 2013 at 7:24 pm
Al Davis is God.
Reggie is a fraud.
Just Win Baby.
March 14th, 2013 at 7:25 pm
He we go again –
Mumbles pickin them scrubs – gonna get an old cornerback for this year too –
newman is gonna sign. We’ll read about his experience and work ethic and the apologists will all drink the koolaid and forget about how last years old corners failed completely.
And at the end of the year when this group of old coaches is looking for someone to blame for another 4-12 year Denise will get kicked to the curb.
Write it down.
March 14th, 2013 at 7:25 pm
Reggie is grasping at straws.
March 14th, 2013 at 7:26 pm
So Reggie Signs Terrance Newman….but he wont sign Cary Williams? Aqua Talib? Brent Grimes??
March 14th, 2013 at 7:26 pm
I don’t see how this team wins 4 games.
March 14th, 2013 at 7:28 pm
Reggie values experienced corner backs.
March 14th, 2013 at 7:29 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 7:13 pm
Something tells me if Reggie had signed Bryant and Wheeler to those deals the same people bashing the Browns and Dolphins would be praising the big guy for finding a way to keep them.
Be honest people.
I would have resigned Bryant but not Wheeler.
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Bob, You have to reward these kids when they do exactly what you as an Org. want them to and pay their dues with hard work and development. That is hard to replace, I really liked that kid.
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Resigning early would be best.
March 14th, 2013 at 7:29 pm
woodsen and aso meet with the niners..we go after newman..enough said
March 14th, 2013 at 7:30 pm
Next year’s team is going to make last year’s team look like the 85 bears.
March 14th, 2013 at 7:31 pm
Newman played well last year. Gotta be better than Bartel and Spenscer.
March 14th, 2013 at 7:31 pm
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 7:28 pm
Reggie values experienced corner backs.
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It’s OK if they can play but these guys he’s looking at can’t play anymore. Newman was getting beat like a drum, if he wants to go young and inexpensive you have to kknow the league to pick off other rosters. Not run back home to Mommy and get some trash.
March 14th, 2013 at 7:33 pm
We’re gonna have Newman and Jones as starting corners trying to cover Welker with Manning throwing…
Great work Reggie!!! You a$$.
Welker had 110 catches last year – he should get 20+ against the raiders alone…
March 14th, 2013 at 7:33 pm
It’s OK if they can play but these guys he’s looking at can’t play anymore. Newman was getting beat like a drum, if he wants to go young and inexpensive you have to kknow the league to pick off other rosters. Not run back home to Mommy and get some trash.
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Newman had a better year then the younger Sean Smith.. per PFF
March 14th, 2013 at 7:33 pm
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 7:30 pm
Next year’s team is going to make last year’s team look like the 85 bears.
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Hey! That SHIZT AIN’T FUNNY!…. Ya it …is. LOL, everything is a grain of salt.
March 14th, 2013 at 7:34 pm
Its kind of funny that people are saying we are finally doing things like the rest of the league, when in fact we aren’t.
We just went from one extreme (overpaying for FA’s) to another (dumpster diving).
March 14th, 2013 at 7:35 pm
rudegruden Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 7:34 pm
Its kind of funny that people are saying we are finally doing things like the rest of the league, when in fact we aren’t.
We just went from one extreme (overpaying for FA’s) to another (dumpster diving).
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If it looks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck?
March 14th, 2013 at 7:35 pm
Reggie really does love those injury prone veterans. We actually might get urlacher.
March 14th, 2013 at 7:36 pm
We just went from one extreme (overpaying for FA’s) to another (dumpster diving).
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So which do u want? Overpaying for other ppls players and castoffs.. or spending money carefully? which is its?? what gets the best results?
Dream team?
March 14th, 2013 at 7:36 pm
Dumpster diving is exactly right.
FIRE REGGIE NOW.
March 14th, 2013 at 7:36 pm
U guys just wanna collect talent ??
March 14th, 2013 at 7:37 pm
Last years Madden final roster is the worst in the history of Madden. Can’t wait to see next years?
March 14th, 2013 at 7:37 pm
or Mike Jenkins…It’s hard to believe Terrance Newman is the best we could do….smh
March 14th, 2013 at 7:38 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 7:36 pm
We just went from one extreme (overpaying for FA’s) to another (dumpster diving).
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So which do u want? Overpaying for other ppls players and castoffs.. or spending money carefully? which is its?? what gets the best results?
Dream team?
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You mention dream team which is obviously the overpaying FA’s..one extreme
But spending money carefully doesn’t mean dumpster diving. We are not even going after mid tier guys. We are picking up scraps and castoffs from other teams.
March 14th, 2013 at 7:38 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 7:36 pm
U guys just wanna collect talent ??
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Yes! And put good coaches in place to use what they have.
March 14th, 2013 at 7:39 pm
Raiderfankirk Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 7:38 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 7:36 pm
U guys just wanna collect talent ??
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Yes! And put good coaches in place to use what they have.
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Talent and good coaching…Stop with the nonsense!
March 14th, 2013 at 7:39 pm
rudegruden Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 7:39 pm
Raiderfankirk Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 7:38 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 7:36 pm
U guys just wanna collect talent ??
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Yes! And put good coaches in place to use what they have.
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Talent and good coaching…Stop with the nonsense!
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March 14th, 2013 at 7:40 pm
If you nut jobs don’t want me to mention Al Davis, don’t come in here saying Reggie has to run the Org like Al Did.
Al had 7 winning seasons in the last 23 years, ok?
Been there, done that.we’re going in a different direction. A winning direction.
March 14th, 2013 at 7:41 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 7:40 pm
If you nut jobs don’t want me to mention Al Davis, don’t come in here saying Reggie has to run the Org like Al Did.
Al had 7 winning seasons in the last 23 years, ok?
Been there, done that.we’re going in a different direction. A winning direction.
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Copy and paste, you really love that function don’t you.
March 14th, 2013 at 7:41 pm
Newman, Vince Young… Don’t give Taiwan the ball to run but he might be a corner? Wait until last game to get Pryor in? Wait until mid-season to get Reece the ball?
The best to hope for is last place, cap is in order, first pick, Mark sells the team and its all brand new.
March 14th, 2013 at 7:41 pm
Al put the talent on the field, just not the coaches. If anyone can come back from the dead he can do it. F Hudini. Hope he shows up soon and young to coach and gm.
March 14th, 2013 at 7:43 pm
Winning direction? Dude needs glasses. See senior bowl too.
March 14th, 2013 at 7:43 pm
Damn USA lost.
David Wright, late scratch.
No more Mets on our team.
March 14th, 2013 at 7:43 pm
Raiderfankirk Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 7:41 pm
Al put the talent on the field, just not the coaches. If anyone can come back from the dead he can do it. F Hudini. Hope he shows up soon and young to coach and gm.
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AL’s true biggest flaw was his under appreciation of good coaching.
March 14th, 2013 at 7:43 pm
LOL……I was updating the Raiders yesterday…I had to look and shake my head at that bs…..Oh yea Mike Jenkins is still available…Sign him Reggie!!!
March 14th, 2013 at 7:43 pm
beach Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 7:21 pm
Priest, I agree with Des Bryant. My question to you right now is: Do we get a deal for Shaughnessy before we lose him? I say bring him back.
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It’s not even a question IMHO. This should’ve been foregone conclusions. What we’re seeing is inexperience and damn near paranoia on the part of our GM. He not making the common sense moves that all GM’s do without even thinking the first FA you sign are always your own. You clear the overblown contracts and old vets who are on teh downside of their careers and bring in new blood. Our GM lets his own young talent wlk and goes out and signs hasbeens and wannabes.
Reggie’s inexperience is soo freakin evident it’s damn near laughable. You never let Matt S, Des and those types get to FA because if you do you are almost CERTAIN to LOSE them.
March 14th, 2013 at 7:43 pm
AL AL AL AL AL AL AL AL AL AL AL! You nut job! You!
March 14th, 2013 at 7:44 pm
Any news on Dan Conner or Nick Roach Yet?????
March 14th, 2013 at 7:44 pm
But spending money carefully doesn’t mean dumpster diving. We are not even going after mid tier guys. We are picking up scraps and castoffs from other teams.
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Ever think we are gonna draft a corner? So you guys just wanna collect talent even if it doesnt fit our scheme or philosophies ?? (only Reggie knows that )
or do u want to build a team?? THere is a difference of just collecting talent and building a team.
I didnt see Fudge Packers go out on a spending spree
March 14th, 2013 at 7:45 pm
Reggie is more of a Raider then anyone here. Fact
March 14th, 2013 at 7:45 pm
He has actually put blood, sweat and tears for this ORG.. u dont think he wants to build it the right way and WIN?
March 14th, 2013 at 7:46 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 7:43 pm
beach Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 7:21 pm
Priest, I agree with Des Bryant. My question to you right now is: Do we get a deal for Shaughnessy before we lose him? I say bring him back.
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It’s not even a question IMHO. This should’ve been foregone conclusions. What we’re seeing is inexperience and damn near paranoia on the part of our GM. He not making the common sense moves that all GM’s do without even thinking the first FA you sign are always your own. You clear the overblown contracts and old vets who are on teh downside of their careers and bring in new blood. Our GM lets his own young talent wlk and goes out and signs hasbeens and wannabes.
Reggie’s inexperience is soo freakin evident it’s damn near laughable. You never let Matt S, Des and those types get to FA because if you do you are almost CERTAIN to LOSE them.
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Should have been signed before the start of the season. Sign early and often at lower numbers. If you F up it’s not as big of a deal.
March 14th, 2013 at 7:46 pm
Experienced GM’s feast on franchises who have that make fundamental mistakes like we have just made. that’s what Big Al always did wait until the players he couldn’t draft to begin with get exposed and then steal them.
That’s exactly what’s happening to us now we’re getting pillaged and plundered.
March 14th, 2013 at 7:47 pm
Raider E Says:
My post was in response to someone talking up the Wheeler signing. Your misrepresenting it.
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Backtracked the convo and still didn’t pick up on the sarcasm, but if that’s what it was, my apologies.
March 14th, 2013 at 7:47 pm
Sho-Nicely was quite honestly our worst defensive player last year.
Laid down quickier than anyone else, let him walk and get the compensatory pick for him.
March 14th, 2013 at 7:48 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 7:44 pm
But spending money carefully doesn’t mean dumpster diving. We are not even going after mid tier guys. We are picking up scraps and castoffs from other teams.
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Ever think we are gonna draft a corner? So you guys just wanna collect talent even if it doesnt fit our scheme or philosophies ?? (only Reggie knows that )
or do u want to build a team?? THere is a difference of just collecting talent and building a team.
I didnt see Fudge Packers go out on a spending spree
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I’m not sure you are grasping the concept. The goal isn’t to overspend but at least pickup some mid tier talent. Currently, we have the money. But at this point (which still could change), we are really grasping for garbage.
March 14th, 2013 at 7:48 pm
People saying old guys can’t play in the secondary?? RWood was frigging THIRTY SEVEN when he propelled us into the SB the year he had the pick vs Denver.
Old dawgs can HUNT…
March 14th, 2013 at 7:48 pm
Oh yea im sure he does, I know it doesnt look sexy and it’s frustrating as hell to sit back and watch teams in our division get better! Im sure we could pick up one or two second tier free agents..Im not sure y we cant get people in here like a Mike Jenkins or a Cary Williams, those guys can be had……I dont agree with what Reggie’s doing, but if it’s for the best and he can bring in some good quality football players im all for it!
March 14th, 2013 at 7:49 pm
or Reggie doesnt like these players
March 14th, 2013 at 7:49 pm
Experienced GM’s feast on franchises who have that make fundamental mistakes like we have just made.
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Yes, that great track record of Miami and Cleveland strikes again.
Wheeler and Bryant have officially begun the downswing of their career.
March 14th, 2013 at 7:49 pm
Raiderfankirk Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 7:46 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 7:43 pm
beach Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 7:21 pm
Priest, I agree with Des Bryant. My question to you right now is: Do we get a deal for Shaughnessy before we lose him? I say bring him back.
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It’s not even a question IMHO. This should’ve been foregone conclusions. What we’re seeing is inexperience and damn near paranoia on the part of our GM. He not making the common sense moves that all GM’s do without even thinking the first FA you sign are always your own. You clear the overblown contracts and old vets who are on teh downside of their careers and bring in new blood. Our GM lets his own young talent wlk and goes out and signs hasbeens and wannabes.
Reggie’s inexperience is soo freakin evident it’s damn near laughable. You never let Matt S, Des and those types get to FA because if you do you are almost CERTAIN to LOSE them.
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Should have been signed before the start of the season. Sign early and often at lower numbers. If you F up it’s not as big of a deal.
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It boggles my mind people are having trouble grasping that concept.
March 14th, 2013 at 7:49 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 7:47 pm
Sho-Nicely was quite honestly our worst defensive player last year.
Laid down quickier than anyone else, let him walk and get the compensatory pick for him.
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Agreed again.
No more Shonasty.
Damn JFB…
March 14th, 2013 at 7:50 pm
Rod Woodson just wasnt one PIECE..
WE had many hall of famers on that team and one of the greatest WR of all time in JERRY RICE.. another Hall of Famer in Tim Brown
A MVP of the league type QB and a Coach like Gruden.
We have a zero of that here. C WOodson coming here wouldnt do nothing for us.. maybe if he is still on the market in 2 weeks
March 14th, 2013 at 7:52 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 7:50 pm
Rod Woodson just wasnt one PIECE..
WE had many hall of famers on that team and one of the greatest WR of all time in JERRY RICE.. another Hall of Famer in Tim Brown
A MVP of the league type QB and a Coach like Gruden.
We have a zero of that here. C WOodson coming here wouldnt do nothing for us.. maybe if he is still on the market in 2 weeks
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Do you remember our team before Gruden got here.
Amazing what a good coach can do. Winning brings in the FA’s.
Losing does not. Its that simple
March 14th, 2013 at 7:52 pm
Once certain Players get paid in MEGA deals they stop working hard.. Fact.. especially guys like Warren Sapp..
March 14th, 2013 at 7:52 pm
People talk about overpaying, when IMo all these players are overpaid it’s just a matter of perception. If I can steal a young talent to fill a need position SO WHAT if I pay a few more milli$$n to get him. I have him and you don’t.
That’s exactly how you win in this league with players NOT cap space.
March 14th, 2013 at 7:53 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 7:44 pm
But spending money carefully doesn’t mean dumpster diving. We are not even going after mid tier guys. We are picking up scraps and castoffs from other teams.
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Ever think we are gonna draft a corner? So you guys just wanna collect talent even if it doesnt fit our scheme or philosophies ?? (only Reggie knows that )
or do u want to build a team?? THere is a difference of just collecting talent and building a team.
I didnt see Fudge Packers go out on a spending spree
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Biggest problem with your statement is the talent/ scheme thing. F’n stupid scheme is bs. You do what your players do first and formost. See end of year D. Man D. See Zone block VS good power already in place. Bye the time you can build a team of what you want/ invision. Your gone cuzz you sucked while doing it. Fans don’t want it. Owners don’t want it (except moneyballers)Players don’t like it. Bottom line is win or get the F out because loosing sucks!
March 14th, 2013 at 7:53 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 7:52 pm
Once certain Players get paid in MEGA deals they stop working hard.. Fact.. especially guys like Warren Sapp..
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You keep talking Mega deals, when no one in their right mind thinks thats an option
March 14th, 2013 at 7:53 pm
With all these news unfolding i’m guessing RM might be targeting huff’s replacement in the 3rd round David amerson, philipp thomas or Eric reíd could be Good additions.
March 14th, 2013 at 7:54 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 7:52 pm
People talk about overpaying, when IMo all these players are overpaid it’s just a matter of perception. If I can steal a young talent to fill a need position SO WHAT if I pay a few more milli$$n to get him. I have him and you don’t.
That’s exactly how you win in this league with players NOT cap space.
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Yes
March 14th, 2013 at 7:54 pm
Amazing what a good coach can do. Winning brings in the FA’s.
Losing does not. Its that simple
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Thats fine with Reggie cuz he isnt trying to bring any Big FA’s anyway. AGAIN right or WRONG thats not how its gonna be done for crying out loud. Get over it. Raiders could have 50 MILLION in CAP space and he still wouldnt be going after big FA’s
1. Build through the draft.
2 UDFA (NO NAMERS) like tramon williams before he got big
3 Waiver wire pickups off other teams
4. Small FA’s and 1 big FA over the next few years that fits in the system.
I REPEAT REGGIE WILL NOT BRING IN ANY BIG FA’s on MEGA DEALS
March 14th, 2013 at 7:55 pm
Kell, you old geezer, are spreading evil spirits?
I expelled a bunch of evil spirits earlier tonight when I sat down and had a good healthy kell. It wasn’t so much kool as it was lukewarm.
March 14th, 2013 at 7:55 pm
The Yankees could care less how much money they spend if it wins. The lakers same thing. I garantee ask Eddie D Bartolo if he gave a damn how much money he spent? He won 5 SB’s and had a helluva lot of fun doing it. he’d do it all over again………..because that is how you win…..period
March 14th, 2013 at 7:56 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 7:52 pm
People talk about overpaying, when IMo all these players are overpaid it’s just a matter of perception. If I can steal a young talent to fill a need position SO WHAT if I pay a few more milli$$n to get him. I have him and you don’t.
That’s exactly how you win in this league with players NOT cap space.
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Yes
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Ya he is gonna pay for Overpay for his own talent that he drafts and for guys who he likes on the Raiders. REECE will be one
BRANCH was already overpaid according to some here
Gonna need money to sign houston, Veldehere in the future , Wiz Jr and he likes DMOORE called him his number 1
Reggie on record saying he wants to resign DMAC long term. everyone always overeacts tho
March 14th, 2013 at 7:56 pm
rudegruden Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 7:34 pm
Its kind of funny that people are saying we are finally doing things like the rest of the league, when in fact we aren’t.
We just went from one extreme (overpaying for FA’s) to another (dumpster diving).
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Somewhere in the middle is where most GMs hit it.
You can never be scared to gamble. Reggie is currently so gun shy he is almost a laughing stock.
Al needed someone ALWAYS to temper his gambling. Thats why it worked so good with Gruden/Allen, and so horribly when he tried to do it on his own.
March 14th, 2013 at 7:56 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 7:54 pm
Amazing what a good coach can do. Winning brings in the FA’s.
Losing does not. Its that simple
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Thats fine with Reggie cuz he isnt trying to bring any Big FA’s anyway. AGAIN right or WRONG thats not how its gonna be done for crying out loud. Get over it. Raiders could have 50 MILLION in CAP space and he still wouldnt be going after big FA’s
1. Build through the draft.
2 UDFA (NO NAMERS) like tramon williams before he got big
3 Waiver wire pickups off other teams
4. Small FA’s and 1 big FA over the next few years that fits in the system.
I REPEAT REGGIE WILL NOT BRING IN ANY BIG FA’s on MEGA DEALS
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Wow, you really are not grasping it.
Mid Tier FA’s!!!!!!!!!!! By losing we don’t have any leverage.
Mid Tier, you know the guys who make up the majority of the roster. We have money NOW to get them. Its Reggie’s job to bring them in.
NOT DUMPSTER DIVE!!!
March 14th, 2013 at 7:57 pm
Biggest problem with your statement is the talent/ scheme thing. F’n stupid scheme is bs. You do what your players do first and formost. See end of year D. Man D. See Zone block VS good power already in place. Bye the time you can build a team of what you want/ invision. Your gone cuzz you sucked while doing it. Fans don’t want it. Owners don’t want it (except moneyballers)Players don’t like it. Bottom line is win or get the F out because loosing sucks!
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ask Philly Fans how ASO fit in their scheme?? OH wait.. just wanted to collect talent.. nevermind finding out what kind of player he was
March 14th, 2013 at 7:57 pm
Shizt! In 5 years half you old f’ers gonna be dead!
March 14th, 2013 at 7:57 pm
Just watched the DeBartalo piece. Amazing what a pompous liar Michael Silver is. “Eddie was taken advantage of” Yeah I’m sure DeBartalo had no idea he was bribing a politician. Pathetic.
March 14th, 2013 at 7:59 pm
Wow, you really are not grasping it.
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No im grasping.. it. ITs reality. Its how its gonna go down. I was on the packer forums and thats the way they said it would go down.. after reggie was hired.
U dont think i want reggie to go get guys like Cary Williams ..and Avril?
Packer fans said alot of fans were pissed at Ted Thomson for dumpster diving and signing No namers.. till the draft happened and over 2-3 yrs it started clicking.
I see alot of raider fans reacting the way the way Packer fans said we would.
March 14th, 2013 at 7:59 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 7:54 pm
Amazing what a good coach can do. Winning brings in the FA’s.
Losing does not. Its that simple
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Thats fine with Reggie cuz he isnt trying to bring any Big FA’s anyway. AGAIN right or WRONG thats not how its gonna be done for crying out loud. Get over it. Raiders could have 50 MILLION in CAP space and he still wouldnt be going after big FA’s
1. Build through the draft.
2 UDFA (NO NAMERS) like tramon williams before he got big
3 Waiver wire pickups off other teams
4. Small FA’s and 1 big FA over the next few years that fits in the system.
I REPEAT REGGIE WILL NOT BRING IN ANY BIG FA’s on MEGA DEALS
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You have to pull the trigger sometimes though bubs.
Right now Reggie is too scared to even keep his OWN good players.
Who would work for a guy that doesn’t reward good work?
This isn’t that much different than the real world business.
March 14th, 2013 at 8:00 pm
Look for Reggie to sign Penn State’s Matt Stankiewitch (center) later this year as an UDFA. Good, blue-collar player. Room’s with Wiz 2.0 in the offseason in Happy Valley. Wiz worked with Matt to prepare for the combine.
March 14th, 2013 at 8:00 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 7:56 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 7:52 pm
People talk about overpaying, when IMo all these players are overpaid it’s just a matter of perception. If I can steal a young talent to fill a need position SO WHAT if I pay a few more milli$$n to get him. I have him and you don’t.
That’s exactly how you win in this league with players NOT cap space.
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Yes
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Ya he is gonna pay for Overpay for his own talent that he drafts and for guys who he likes on the Raiders. REECE will be one
BRANCH was already overpaid according to some here
Gonna need money to sign houston, Veldehere in the future , Wiz Jr and he likes DMOORE called him his number 1
Reggie on record saying he wants to resign DMAC long term. everyone always overeacts tho
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Should be signing them now to put a core in place. Give then a little more for their time under contract now, and lower the expected number of future FA. TO “Build it the right way.”
March 14th, 2013 at 8:01 pm
So what happens if a bunch of our FA’s don’t get an offer anywhere else? They are gonna be humbled and come back to Reggie with their tail’s between their legs.
If not…and they get picked up, then maybe we get a comp pick.
A risky move.
March 14th, 2013 at 8:01 pm
Right now Reggie is too scared to even keep his OWN good players
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These are not his players.. although he did keep BRANCH long term.. signed Reece again last year.
COrk said he will sign HOUSTON longer term and Wiz JR, DMAC possibly and VELDEHERE will be signed long term
March 14th, 2013 at 8:02 pm
Atlanta just got a bunch better.
Seems most of the top teams are loading up.
March 14th, 2013 at 8:02 pm
U guys are mistaking me saying what REGGIE is gonna do.. with like Im in agreement.
Im indifferent to it. however Packer fans said it would go down this way. Im seeing it
March 14th, 2013 at 8:02 pm
rudegruden Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 7:56 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 7:54 pm
Amazing what a good coach can do. Winning brings in the FA’s.
Losing does not. Its that simple
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Thats fine with Reggie cuz he isnt trying to bring any Big FA’s anyway. AGAIN right or WRONG thats not how its gonna be done for crying out loud. Get over it. Raiders could have 50 MILLION in CAP space and he still wouldnt be going after big FA’s
1. Build through the draft.
2 UDFA (NO NAMERS) like tramon williams before he got big
3 Waiver wire pickups off other teams
4. Small FA’s and 1 big FA over the next few years that fits in the system.
I REPEAT REGGIE WILL NOT BRING IN ANY BIG FA’s on MEGA DEALS
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Wow, you really are not grasping it.
Mid Tier FA’s!!!!!!!!!!! By losing we don’t have any leverage.
Mid Tier, you know the guys who make up the majority of the roster. We have money NOW to get them. Its Reggie’s job to bring them in.
NOT DUMPSTER DIVE!!!
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Someone gets it! You HAVE to reward your own players sometime with maybe out of reach contracts or nobody really gives a f_ck. This is just the dumping grounds for the NFL otherwise.
Why is this so hard to figure out?
Reggie has no CLUE how to run a business.
March 14th, 2013 at 8:03 pm
If I was Reggie I’d draft me. I am a stud.
March 14th, 2013 at 8:05 pm
Atlanta just got a bunch better.
Seems most of the top teams are loading up.
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ATL, SEATTLE, SF have been drafting well for the past 3yrs.
What happened a few yrs ago when Raiders stomped Seattle.. they still had curry playing ofr them.
They drafted well. Now u guys see how dumb it was for Al to trade for seymour.. and Hue to trade 1 and 2 for Palmer.. Nothing good comes out of that in a rebuilding team. U need ur draft picks
Seattle has been hitting on them for a while Guys like BOBBY WAGNER a ROOKIE picked in 2nd round had way over 100 tackles last year and a few INTS.. we too ROMAC a few yrs early at 7th spot.
They got a good pass rusher in Bruce Irvin had 8 sacks.
March 14th, 2013 at 8:06 pm
U guys are not grasping this
No im grasping.. it. ITs reality. Its how its gonna go down. I was on the packer forums and thats the way they said it would go down.. after reggie was hired.
U dont think i want reggie to go get guys like Cary Williams ..and Avril?
Packer fans said alot of fans were pissed at Ted Thomson for dumpster diving and signing No namers.. till the draft happened and over 2-3 yrs it started clicking.
I see alot of raider fans reacting the way the way Packer fans said we would.
March 14th, 2013 at 8:08 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:06 pm
U guys are not grasping this
No im grasping.. it. ITs reality. Its how its gonna go down. I was on the packer forums and thats the way they said it would go down.. after reggie was hired.
U dont think i want reggie to go get guys like Cary Williams ..and Avril?
Packer fans said alot of fans were pissed at Ted Thomson for dumpster diving and signing No namers.. till the draft happened and over 2-3 yrs it started clicking.
I see alot of raider fans reacting the way the way Packer fans said we would.
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If they don’t draft well then they have already declined. Texas Hold’em anyone?
March 14th, 2013 at 8:09 pm
The river can be a bich.
March 14th, 2013 at 8:12 pm
Think about it this way. If you run a business? Do you pay the guy with exp. and pay him a little more that you know vcan do the job, or pay a new guy your not sure of because he is cheaper?
Remeber it’s your azz on the line.
March 14th, 2013 at 8:12 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:06 pm
U guys are not grasping this
No im grasping.. it. ITs reality. Its how its gonna go down. I was on the packer forums and thats the way they said it would go down.. after reggie was hired.
U dont think i want reggie to go get guys like Cary Williams ..and Avril?
Packer fans said alot of fans were pissed at Ted Thomson for dumpster diving and signing No namers.. till the draft happened and over 2-3 yrs it started clicking.
I see alot of raider fans reacting the way the way Packer fans said we would.
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I’m sick of hearing about the packer “way”
They had followed by Rodgers. Without them they don’t make the playoffs. How’s that defense doing anyways. Too bad Rodgers can’t play D
March 14th, 2013 at 8:12 pm
Tyrann Mathieu plans to play angry next year. The former LSU cornerback was kicked out of school and sat out the 2012 college football season because of failed drug tests. An arrest ended his chances of returning to the team.
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Mathieu is confident he’ll return to being the player who was a 2011 Heisman Trophy finalist.
“I think I have enough anger inside of me with not playing football this year,” Mathieu said Thursday on NFL Network’s “NFL AM.” “I’ve got a whole lot of things inside of me that I want to get out, so I’m going to do that through football. I won’t do that through any drugs or abuse myself anymore.”
Mathieu said anger always has been part of his game and explained he wasn’t ready for stardom at a young age. He had been using marijuana since he was 12 or 13 years old after being introduced to it by a family member. It’s been a struggle to break habits that were part of his environment for so long, Mathieu added.
“I always think I played with a little bit of edge,” Mathieu said. “All the things I been through in life, I kind of took that to the field with me. Just this past year with not playing football, that kind of got me a little mad. I’m going to take that to the field with me too.”
Mathieu proved at the NFL Scouting Combine that the athletic play-making talent still is there. The off-the-field questions will affect his draft position and will follow Mathieu until he has been in the NFL for some time without incident.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000150653/article/tyrann-mathieu-says-hell-play-angry-for-nfl-team
March 14th, 2013 at 8:12 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:05 pm
Atlanta just got a bunch better.
Seems most of the top teams are loading up.
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ATL, SEATTLE, SF have been drafting well for the past 3yrs.
What happened a few yrs ago when Raiders stomped Seattle.. they still had curry playing ofr them.
They drafted well. Now u guys see how dumb it was for Al to trade for seymour.. and Hue to trade 1 and 2 for Palmer.. Nothing good comes out of that in a rebuilding team. U need ur draft picks
Seattle has been hitting on them for a while Guys like BOBBY WAGNER a ROOKIE picked in 2nd round had way over 100 tackles last year and a few INTS.. we too ROMAC a few yrs early at 7th spot.
They got a good pass rusher in Bruce Irvin had 8 sacks.
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Seattle also got Wilson in the 3rd & Sherman in the 5th. So people crying about Chubby Checker not having his 1st & 2nd picks are morons. Thanks for bringing up Seattle. Hopefully they win the superbowl and Mark comes to his senses & gets the
McCloughan/Gruden 2014 ticket going.
March 14th, 2013 at 8:13 pm
I’m all in – Phil Ivey
March 14th, 2013 at 8:13 pm
Tyrann Mathieu says he’ll play angry for an NFL team
March 14th, 2013 at 8:13 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:05 pm
Atlanta just got a bunch better.
Seems most of the top teams are loading up.
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ATL, SEATTLE, SF have been drafting well for the past 3yrs.
What happened a few yrs ago when Raiders stomped Seattle.. they still had curry playing ofr them.
They drafted well. Now u guys see how dumb it was for Al to trade for seymour.. and Hue to trade 1 and 2 for Palmer.. Nothing good comes out of that in a rebuilding team. U need ur draft picks
Seattle has been hitting on them for a while Guys like BOBBY WAGNER a ROOKIE picked in 2nd round had way over 100 tackles last year and a few INTS.. we too ROMAC a few yrs early at 7th spot.
They got a good pass rusher in Bruce Irvin had 8 sacks.
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Its important to draft well… of course, but equally as important to REWARD the draftees if they play well with maybe over market value contracts.
This is something Reggie is completely clueless about and everyone is glossing over.
Bryant should have been REWARDED for his work as a Raider.
Instead Reggie pussed out. What a puzzy. Too scared to reward good behavior. This team is f_cked.
Sorry.
March 14th, 2013 at 8:15 pm
raiderfankirk Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:12 pm
Think about it this way. If you run a business? Do you pay the guy with exp. and pay him a little more that you know vcan do the job, or pay a new guy your not sure of because he is cheaper?
Remeber it’s your azz on the line.
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Someone gets it!
The only reward for playing hard for the Raiders is a good contract with a different team.
Like that will work when we are already bottom feeding…
March 14th, 2013 at 8:15 pm
ask Philly Fans how ASO fit in their scheme?? OH wait.. just wanted to collect talent.. nevermind finding out what kind of player he was
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Good point.
March 14th, 2013 at 8:15 pm
Seattle also got Wilson in the 3rd & Sherman in the 5th
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and we didnt have a pick till the 4th round 95 compensatroy pick last pick in the 3rd round ..
Russell was picked in the 60’s Raiders were high on WILSON and spent the most time with him at the senior bowl. Reggie would have taken russell with a 2nd round pick
DVD taking in the 3rd round by AL .. that same draft
SHERMAN taken in the 5th round cuz he ran a 4.56 40
take a guess how fast DVD RAN?
March 14th, 2013 at 8:16 pm
Think Greg Jennings. They have three bad azz receivers. What happens when one, oh shizt two get hurt with a D that ain’t all that. Pay the man respectable and cover your azz, plus the rotation provides rest and a more productive passing game. If the Pack looses two receivers then their f’d.
March 14th, 2013 at 8:17 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:13 pm
Tyrann Mathieu says he’ll play angry for an NFL team
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I maybe crazy but I would take a shot with him in the 4th round
I think every year a team should go for a high reward guy in the later rounds. To emphasis, later round
March 14th, 2013 at 8:17 pm
Its important to draft well… of course, but equally as important to REWARD the draftees if they play well with maybe over market value contracts.
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Again These are not Reggies Players. And how did that work out for AL? Overpaying Kelly, HUFF a re upp of 4yrs 32 million dollar contract more then ed Reed and Troy Poloamou at the time.
How did that workout for ROUTT paying him 10 MILLION a year?
March 14th, 2013 at 8:17 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:02 pm
U guys are mistaking me saying what REGGIE is gonna do.. with like Im in agreement.
Im indifferent to it. however Packer fans said it would go down this way. Im seeing it
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You may not have intended it, but what I take away from your post here is that it is being assumed it was Reggie…not Thompson…who called the shots mostly as far as player personnel is concerned in Green Bay.
Packer fans think this if they are saying this is how it will work in Oakland.
March 14th, 2013 at 8:18 pm
I maybe crazy but I would take a shot with him in the 4th round
I think every year a team should go for a high reward guy in the later rounds. To emphasis, later round
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he is not making it to the 4th round.. Mayock says 3rd.. Deion sanders said he was told at combine wont make it out of the 2nd round.
Tyrann says he had a great interview with 49ers.. and they have 14 draft picks
March 14th, 2013 at 8:18 pm
Amazing how fast Matt Cassell got a job.
March 14th, 2013 at 8:18 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:06 pm
U guys are not grasping this
No im grasping.. it. ITs reality. Its how its gonna go down. I was on the packer forums and thats the way they said it would go down.. after reggie was hired.
U dont think i want reggie to go get guys like Cary Williams ..and Avril?
Packer fans said alot of fans were pissed at Ted Thomson for dumpster diving and signing No namers.. till the draft happened and over 2-3 yrs it started clicking.
I see alot of raider fans reacting the way the way Packer fans said we would.
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COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SITUATION!!!
The Packers haven’t had more than one losing season in twenty frigging years!!! You can dumpster dive when you have Farve and then Rodgers as QB!!!
They always found a way to pull it out of their ass!
March 14th, 2013 at 8:18 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 1:19 pm
The same GM that biult the Niners went to Seattle and biult the Seahawks so don’t tell me it can’;t be done that way. I watched the guy do it. His brother and father were working for the Raiders and David just came back to the Raiders this year I bleieve.
I know what it takes to rebiuld and whe it is necessary to do so. What Reggie is doing makes no sense.
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Well thank God we have you here for all of our edification.
Sad for the Raiders that they are paying Reggie, who despite decades in the industry and a ringing endorsement from some of the greats in football management, clearly knows less than someone that blogs their opinions for free.
March 14th, 2013 at 8:18 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:05 pm
Atlanta just got a bunch better.
Seems most of the top teams are loading up.
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ATL, SEATTLE, SF have been drafting well for the past 3yrs.
What happened a few yrs ago when Raiders stomped Seattle.. they still had curry playing ofr them.
They drafted well. Now u guys see how dumb it was for Al to trade for seymour.. and Hue to trade 1 and 2 for Palmer.. Nothing good comes out of that in a rebuilding team. U need ur draft picks
Seattle has been hitting on them for a while Guys like BOBBY WAGNER a ROOKIE picked in 2nd round had way over 100 tackles last year and a few INTS.. we too ROMAC a few yrs early at 7th spot.
They got a good pass rusher in Bruce Irvin had 8 sacks.
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Calm down, big guy. Of course they’ve been drafting well. And they’re now supplementng with key acquisitions.
March 14th, 2013 at 8:19 pm
You may not have intended it, but what I take away from your post here is that it is being assumed it was Reggie…not Thompson…who called the shots mostly as far as player personnel is concerned in Green Bay.
Packer fans think this if they are saying this is how it will work in Oakland.
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well Reggie was there for 17 years.. they know him pretty well through various interviews and his track record with what he has helped out.
I dont care what I implied. Its how its gonna go down..and they called it to a T so far
March 14th, 2013 at 8:20 pm
Calm down, big guy. Of course they’ve been drafting well. And they’re now supplementng with key acquisitions.
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Im very calm. Just telling u how it is. Some ppl just cant deal with how its gonna be.
I was talking ish on this org ..till i remember what packers fans said would happen. nothing u can do about it
March 14th, 2013 at 8:20 pm
rudegruden Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:17 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:13 pm
Tyrann Mathieu says he’ll play angry for an NFL team
—/—
I maybe crazy but I would take a shot with him in the 4th round
I think every year a team should go for a high reward guy in the later rounds. To emphasis, later round
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He’ll be gone already. If we got all the players we all wanted then no one else would be drafting! LOL
March 14th, 2013 at 8:20 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:06 pm
U guys are not grasping this
No im grasping.. it. ITs reality. Its how its gonna go down. I was on the packer forums and thats the way they said it would go down.. after reggie was hired.
U dont think i want reggie to go get guys like Cary Williams ..and Avril?
Packer fans said alot of fans were pissed at Ted Thomson for dumpster diving and signing No namers.. till the draft happened and over 2-3 yrs it started clicking.
I see alot of raider fans reacting the way the way Packer fans said we would.
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I wish you and us all the success, but expecting what happened somewhere else to happen here is like the wishing Aaron Rodgers will show up on our doorstep and say hey! lets go get ‘em.
That is another place and time if you gave me Rodgers I would be 100% behind everything you say. But we don’t have him and we don’t have his rec’s. Now I think we can do a lot of things with Pryor because I believ totally in that young man. But Reggie has to show me something more than hey look what we did in Green Bay. Because truth be told someone else did that he didn’t.
March 14th, 2013 at 8:21 pm
The Packers haven’t had more than one losing season in twenty frigging years!!! You can dumpster dive when you have Farve and then Rodgers as QB!!!
They always found a way to pull it out of their ass!
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had losing seasons under MIKE SHERMAN before they canned him and hired McCarthy.. that was like 8 yrs ago
March 14th, 2013 at 8:21 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:18 pm
Amazing how fast Matt Cassell got a job.
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One man’s trash …
March 14th, 2013 at 8:22 pm
6.
You fkn idiot – Sapp signed with the Raiders barely a year after the team was in the Super Bowl.
Now the team is bad and has been for a long time. BAD teams have to seriously OVERPAY to get the best of the best.
March 14th, 2013 at 8:23 pm
I wish you and us all the success, but expecting what happened somewhere else to happen here is like the wishing Aaron Rodgers will show up on our doorstep and say hey! lets go get ‘em.
That is another place and time if you gave me Rodgers I would be 100% behind everything you say. But we don’t have him and we don’t have his rec’s. Now I think we can do a lot of things with Pryor because I believ totally in that young man. But Reggie has to show me something more than hey look what we did in Green Bay. Because truth be told someone else did that he didn’t.
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Bro.. Im gonna Bro u cuz you are a good dude.. but Im just telling you what packer fans said. there was a whole thread on it after Reggie was hired.
Thats how its gonna be to a T.. so far they called it. They got Aarond roders with the 24th pick and they actually almost traded Rodgers to the Raiders for Randy moss. They held back
I dont think Reggie looks at it as a different situation. He is going by his “ted thompson Packer MANUEL”
March 14th, 2013 at 8:23 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:18 pm
Amazing how fast Matt Cassell got a job.
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Yes it is. He was ok for some games and mostly horrible for most. Then again he signed with the Vikings, and Ponder ain’t no peach.
March 14th, 2013 at 8:23 pm
After going 8-8 his first year on the job Mike McCarthy followed up with a 13-3 campaign in 2007.
In 2008 the Packers were 6-10 under McCarthy.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/McCaMi0.htm
March 14th, 2013 at 8:24 pm
You fkn idiot – Sapp signed with the Raiders barely a year after the team was in the Super Bowl.
Now the team is bad and has been for a long time. BAD teams have to seriously OVERPAY to get the best of the best.
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his words not mine. He took Als money cuz it was too good to pass up. Said it was well known amongst certain guys in other locker rooms Al was giving out free money to fast guys and old legends
March 14th, 2013 at 8:25 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:21 pm
The Packers haven’t had more than one losing season in twenty frigging years!!! You can dumpster dive when you have Farve and then Rodgers as QB!!!
They always found a way to pull it out of their ass!
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had losing seasons under MIKE SHERMAN before they canned him and hired McCarthy.. that was like 8 yrs ago
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WTF EVER!!! They have had TWO below .500 seasons since 1995!!!!
You cannot compare the Packers to the Raiders… that is why Reggie is such a horrible fit!!!
March 14th, 2013 at 8:26 pm
You cannot compare the Packers to the Raiders… that is why Reggie is such a horrible fit!!!
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Well go cry to Mark Davis.. Im not the Owner
March 14th, 2013 at 8:28 pm
jackasspuria Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:23 pm
After going 8-8 his first year on the job Mike McCarthy followed up with a 13-3 campaign in 2007.
In 2008 the Packers were 6-10 under McCarthy.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/McCaMi0.htm
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TWO BELOW .500 SEASONS SINCE 1995!!!
We have had what? 17 of them???
YOU CANNOT COMPARE GB TO THE RAIDERS!!!
We are bottom feeding right now and Reggie is acting like he can run the franchise like GB did when everything was PLUG AND PLAY!!!
This is craziness !!!
March 14th, 2013 at 8:28 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:19 pm
You may not have intended it, but what I take away from your post here is that it is being assumed it was Reggie…not Thompson…who called the shots mostly as far as player personnel is concerned in Green Bay.
Packer fans think this if they are saying this is how it will work in Oakland.
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well Reggie was there for 17 years.. they know him pretty well through various interviews and his track record with what he has helped out.
I dont care what I implied. Its how its gonna go down..and they called it to a T so far
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Jeeez man. I was agreeing with you. Chill out a bit.
March 14th, 2013 at 8:29 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:26 pm
You cannot compare the Packers to the Raiders… that is why Reggie is such a horrible fit!!!
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Well go cry to Mark Davis.. Im not the Owner
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In a round about way that is exactley what we’re doing. I’m sure he is informed on fan opinion.
March 14th, 2013 at 8:29 pm
Jeeez man. I was agreeing with you. Chill out a bit.
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why are you saying that. Im calm , its just words.
March 14th, 2013 at 8:30 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:26 pm
You cannot compare the Packers to the Raiders… that is why Reggie is such a horrible fit!!!
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Well go cry to Mark Davis.. Im not the Owner
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You’re acting like you are down with this.
Its frigging moronic.
Can you not understand this?
March 14th, 2013 at 8:30 pm
has anyone thought of Hasselbeck as the vet QB we bring in??
March 14th, 2013 at 8:30 pm
In a round about way that is exactley what we’re doing. I’m sure he is informed on fan opinion.
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i would be too if it actually mattered.. but Mark is gonna do what Mark is gonna do.. I do know that he was pissed with DA last year.. and was gonna can him but was afraid how it would look.
Fans were screaming bring back CHUCKY to him at the games.
I was screaming we never should have fired HUE since week 2 last year.. but nothing came of it
March 14th, 2013 at 8:30 pm
WTF EVER!!! They have had TWO below .500 seasons since 1995!!!!
You cannot compare the Packers to the Raiders… that is why Reggie is such a horrible fit!!!
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Yep, Ron Wolf, Reggie’s mentor turned them around.
Any of you guys remember Ron Wolf when he was our GM?
March 14th, 2013 at 8:31 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:28 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:19 pm
You may not have intended it, but what I take away from your post here is that it is being assumed it was Reggie…not Thompson…who called the shots mostly as far as player personnel is concerned in Green Bay.
Packer fans think this if they are saying this is how it will work in Oakland.
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well Reggie was there for 17 years.. they know him pretty well through various interviews and his track record with what he has helped out.
I dont care what I implied. Its how its gonna go down..and they called it to a T so far
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Jeeez man. I was agreeing with you. Chill out a bit.
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Say tomatoe it’s ta, mato. Potatoe it’s PO tat oh. Classic MR
March 14th, 2013 at 8:32 pm
You’re acting like you are down with this.
Its frigging moronic.
Can you not understand this?
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No, i never wanted PALMER, I never wanted HUE FIRED, I Never wanted WIMBLEY CUT.. I never wanted alot of things that happened. I wanted DHB still onthis team
dont confuse what I know is gonna happen with me being ok with it
March 14th, 2013 at 8:32 pm
R8ER MIKE Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:30 pm
has anyone thought of Hasselbeck as the vet QB we bring in??
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What’s up Mike? Aren’t you supossed to be high and in bed?
March 14th, 2013 at 8:33 pm
Mark Davis could give a rat’s arse about the fans.
As long as fans are buying tix and merchandise, he’s all gravy.
Many fans here want McKenzie gone, but is Reggie gone? Nope. Mark Davis allows him to remain employed.
March 14th, 2013 at 8:33 pm
Gdog,
I get where you’re coming from, but IF Reggie had a big say in player acquisition at GB then it’s a good track record despite him coming into winning situation there.
They have done a good job maintaining the winning. Not all org’s are able to do that.
Granted, they did basically luck out with having a HOF QB fall to them at # 24…but they were smart enough to pounce when they had the chance.
March 14th, 2013 at 8:34 pm
Cincy Fox Sports Radio dude had this 8 hours ago…
Artrell Hawkins Jr. @artrellhawkins
I hear from sources close to Terence Newman that he will indeed sign with the Oakland Raiders. More pressure to keep Pacman Jones?
March 14th, 2013 at 8:34 pm
Things are going EXACTLY the way Packer fans said they would. Right down to the knashing of teeth and tearing of hair by some of the more impatient fans.
I’m enjoying it unfold, actually. Mainly because I want to see how those people rationalize their anger and insults after Reggie turns things around (although I have an idea that some of them will attempt to save face by saying he could have done it sooner if he’d only done it their way, lol).
March 14th, 2013 at 8:35 pm
jackasspuria Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:33 pm
Mark Davis could give a rat’s arse about the fans.
As long as fans are buying tix and merchandise, he’s all gravy.
Many fans here want McKenzie gone, but is Reggie gone? Nope. Mark Davis allows him to remain employed.
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Yes. Ticket sales will go down. Do you think he wants a slimmer wallet or a fatter one? Seriously?
March 14th, 2013 at 8:36 pm
Raiderfankirk
Tickets sales have been dwindling since Big Al was in charge.
Mark’s solution?
Tarp of 10,000 seats.
March 14th, 2013 at 8:36 pm
edward teach Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:34 pm
Things are going EXACTLY the way Packer fans said they would. Right down to the knashing of teeth and tearing of hair by some of the more impatient fans.
I’m enjoying it unfold, actually. Mainly because I want to see how those people rationalize their anger and insults after Reggie turns things around (although I have an idea that some of them will attempt to save face by saying he could have done it sooner if he’d only done it their way, lol).
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And here’s the other personna.
March 14th, 2013 at 8:36 pm
edward teach Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:34 pm
Things are going EXACTLY the way Packer fans said they would. Right down to the knashing of teeth and tearing of hair by some of the more impatient fans.
I’m enjoying it unfold, actually. Mainly because I want to see how those people rationalize their anger and insults after Reggie turns things around (although I have an idea that some of them will attempt to save face by saying he could have done it sooner if he’d only done it their way, lol).
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Im trying to tell these folks!
March 14th, 2013 at 8:37 pm
Reggie is like a guy that worked for Microsoft for 17 years and applying the EXACT SAME management style to a company that has been struggling for 17 years and needs an aggressive approach to get ahead.
And people are pretending this might WORK!!!
Okee dokee….
March 14th, 2013 at 8:37 pm
jackasspuria Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:36 pm
Raiderfankirk
Tickets sales have been dwindling since Big Al was in charge.
Mark’s solution?
Tarp of 10,000 seats
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And that helps him make money? Tarded?
March 14th, 2013 at 8:37 pm
Gdog
And what is the owner doing about the failed strategy?
March 14th, 2013 at 8:38 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:36 pm
edward teach Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:34 pm
Things are going EXACTLY the way Packer fans said they would. Right down to the knashing of teeth and tearing of hair by some of the more impatient fans.
I’m enjoying it unfold, actually. Mainly because I want to see how those people rationalize their anger and insults after Reggie turns things around (although I have an idea that some of them will attempt to save face by saying he could have done it sooner if he’d only done it their way, lol).
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Im trying to tell these folks
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Classic “Talks To SElf, I feel better…..MOM!!!!!!!”
March 14th, 2013 at 8:38 pm
I would say most Raider Fans don’t want Reggie Gone.
And Now you people are going to hate on Mark, too. Al Davis’ only child.
March 14th, 2013 at 8:39 pm
Raiderfankirk
Just pointing out the fact Mark Davis could care less.
His thought process was probably something like this…
“Oh, we can’t sell tickets… I’ll just tarp of 10,000 seats! Solved!”
Only tard here is the dude sporting that Lloyd Christmas hair cut, Mr. Dumb & Dumber — Mark Davis.
March 14th, 2013 at 8:39 pm
jackasspuria Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:37 pm
Gdog
And what is the owner doing about the failed strategy?
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Just another one in the same.
March 14th, 2013 at 8:40 pm
jackasspuria Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:33 pm
Mark Davis could give a rat’s arse about the fans.
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Show me an owner or a GM that catered to the whims of the fan base and I’ll show you a guy that never won squat.
Fans don’t know jack. We like to think we do sometimes and it’s fun to speculate and share opinions, but when it comes right down to it, we don’t know the first thing about running an NFL franchise.
March 14th, 2013 at 8:40 pm
Raiders are in Play to sign Charles Woodson and ASMOUGHA!!1
March 14th, 2013 at 8:40 pm
Raiderfankirk Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:37 pm
jackasspuria Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:36 pm
Raiderfankirk
Tickets sales have been dwindling since Big Al was in charge.
Mark’s solution?
Tarp of 10,000 seats
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And that helps him make money? Tarded?
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They say having the games on local TV is more important.
Now, wtf do you know about it?
March 14th, 2013 at 8:41 pm
KoolKell
I’m interested to see where Reggie McKenzie takes the Raiders.
I’m just pointing out to the masses that blame McKenzie solely, they shouldn’t pin it all on Reggie.
Mark Davis is the one that hired him and continue to keep McKenzie employed.
Blame Mark, not Reggie.
March 14th, 2013 at 8:41 pm
edward teach Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:34 pm
Things are going EXACTLY the way Packer fans said they would. Right down to the knashing of teeth and tearing of hair by some of the more impatient fans.
I’m enjoying it unfold, actually. Mainly because I want to see how those people rationalize their anger and insults after Reggie turns things around (although I have an idea that some of them will attempt to save face by saying he could have done it sooner if he’d only done it their way, lol).
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SEE!!! Packer fans endured TWO below .500 teams since 1995, and then there is US?
JUST THE SAME THING!!!
Like exceptional players are going to flock here after we dump our own good players. For what reason???
Well jeesh, we’ve only lost a hundred games in the last 7 years… why NOT come here?? FOR LESS MONEY!!!
Good gawd you guys… WAKE UP!!!
March 14th, 2013 at 8:42 pm
Edward Teach
Exactly.
I wanted to show the masses in here that believe Mark Davis would cater to their whims it is unrealistic.
Thanks for helping me prove my point.
March 14th, 2013 at 8:42 pm
G Dog talking to the three same people is pointless. But funny when you think about it? It’s like a “It puts the lotion in the basket moment.”
March 14th, 2013 at 8:42 pm
if they could pull off Dansby and Winston, i will be doing cartwheels. doubt we get either of them
March 14th, 2013 at 8:42 pm
675.raiderfankirk Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:38 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:36 pm
edward teach Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:34 pm
Things are going EXACTLY the way Packer fans said they would. Right down to the knashing of teeth and tearing of hair by some of the more impatient fans.
I’m enjoying it unfold, actually. Mainly because I want to see how those people rationalize their anger and insults after Reggie turns things around (although I have an idea that some of them will attempt to save face by saying he could have done it sooner if he’d only done it their way, lol).
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Im trying to tell these folks
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Classic “Talks To SElf, I feel better…..MOM!!!!!!!”
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We are not the same person, if that’s what you’re implying.
March 14th, 2013 at 8:43 pm
Gdog Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:41 pm
edward teach Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:34 pm
Things are going EXACTLY the way Packer fans said they would. Right down to the knashing of teeth and tearing of hair by some of the more impatient fans.
I’m enjoying it unfold, actually. Mainly because I want to see how those people rationalize their anger and insults after Reggie turns things around (although I have an idea that some of them will attempt to save face by saying he could have done it sooner if he’d only done it their way, lol).
>>>>
SEE!!! Packer fans endured TWO below .500 teams since 1995, and then there is US?
JUST THE SAME THING!!!
Like exceptional players are going to flock here after we dump our own good players. For what reason???
Well jeesh, we’ve only lost a hundred games in the last 7 years… why NOT come here?? FOR LESS MONEY!!!
Good gawd you guys… WAKE UP!!!
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Won’t…just on and on and on.
March 14th, 2013 at 8:43 pm
@663.,.sir you are correct I am high as a giraffes azz
Vote GreenParty in 2016!!
March 14th, 2013 at 8:43 pm
jackasspuria Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:37 pm
Gdog
And what is the owner doing about the failed strategy?
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Hopefully canning his ass after he goes 2-14 and averages 25K a game???
March 14th, 2013 at 8:44 pm
Hopefully canning his ass after he goes 2-14 and averages 25K a game???
Gdog
Until Mark Davis does that, we all gotta roll with Machete McKenzie.
March 14th, 2013 at 8:45 pm
659.
You knew that “[Mark Davis] was pissed with DA last year… and was going to can him…?”
You knew this how?
LOL you’re delusional.
March 14th, 2013 at 8:45 pm
raiderfankirk Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:43 pm
Won’t…just on and on and on.
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Blind faith is a marvelous thing!!!
I am out…
March 14th, 2013 at 8:45 pm
R8ER MIKE Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:43 pm
@663.,.sir you are correct I am high as a giraffes azz
Vote GreenParty in 2016!!
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About 10′ 6″ I’m guessing?
March 14th, 2013 at 8:47 pm
jackasspuria Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:44 pm
Hopefully canning his ass after he goes 2-14 and averages 25K a game???
Gdog
Until Mark Davis does that, we all gotta roll with Machete McKenzie.
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Yup. True Dat.
No reason to pretend this could work though… running a 4-12 team like it is a 12-4 team is craziness.
Gotta gulp the Reggie Koolade though!!
March 14th, 2013 at 8:47 pm
Jackasspuria Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:41 pm
KoolKell
I’m interested to see where Reggie McKenzie takes the Raiders.
I’m just pointing out to the masses that blame McKenzie solely, they shouldn’t pin it all on Reggie.
Mark Davis is the one that hired him and continue to keep McKenzie employed.
Blame Mark, not Reggie.
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Thank you. The masses don’t blame Reggie. They blame Al Davis. Locally, anyway.
March 14th, 2013 at 8:47 pm
Brad Biggs @BradBiggs
As @espnchibears reported, visit for #Bears LB Nick Roach with #Raiders continues today. Interesting to see what happens with him.
Roach reportedly has been in Oakland two days now…
March 14th, 2013 at 8:48 pm
lol and climbing!!
March 14th, 2013 at 8:48 pm
683.
Exactly, Gdog.
March 14th, 2013 at 8:49 pm
anyone know any news on Dan Conner or Nick Roach?
March 14th, 2013 at 8:49 pm
Ha!
Elway uses a “McKenzie-ism”…
ProFootballTalk headline: ELWAY: DUMERVIL’S SALARY IS “OUT OF WHACK, HOPEFULLY HE REALIZES THAT”
March 14th, 2013 at 8:50 pm
Or Mauluga!!!
March 14th, 2013 at 8:50 pm
fvck reggie…
March 14th, 2013 at 8:50 pm
OklahomaRaider18
Chicago media saying Roach has been in Oakland two days. Dined with Raiders brass on Wednesday, still in Oakland on Thursday. No word on signing/contract.
March 14th, 2013 at 8:50 pm
R8ER MIKE Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:48 pm
lol and climbing!!
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You could play TE. Ain’t gotta run. Just walk out in jump. Can you catch?
March 14th, 2013 at 8:51 pm
Reggie and Allen are going to take the Raiders to
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IHOP
March 14th, 2013 at 8:52 pm
IHop…to funny!
March 14th, 2013 at 8:53 pm
They ain’t taking them to the Super Bowl.
March 14th, 2013 at 8:53 pm
edward teach Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:40 pm
jackasspuria Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:33 pm
Mark Davis could give a rat’s arse about the fans.
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Show me an owner or a GM that catered to the whims of the fan base and I’ll show you a guy that never won squat.
Fans don’t know jack. We like to think we do sometimes and it’s fun to speculate and share opinions, but when it comes right down to it, we don’t know the first thing about running an NFL franchise.
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ET, I couldn’t care less where Reggie comes from. You cannot allow young talent to leave like he does and it not bite you in the ass.
It’s fine to believe in the guy but his inexperience is glaring at this point. Now if he learns from his mistakes and corrects himself he can biuld just fine. But at this point we’re getting picked apart, I’m not looking for bigtime FA scores I’m talking about keeping the talent you have.
This stuff aint rocket science players win games nothing else. Now I love the fact he will try to biuld through the draft but you must keep them as you draft them and the only wya to do that is pay them………….period
Smoke and mirrors doesn’t work in this league you must have talent. That cost money and he will pay some bad contracts like everyone else no one is perfect I expect some mistakes but not consistently he has to learn. To hell with what happened in Green bay this is Oakland and it’s the Raiders……..period
March 14th, 2013 at 8:54 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:50 pm
fvck reggie…
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Cross-posting Btch wants more attention? Lol.
March 14th, 2013 at 8:54 pm
Hopefully that’s a good sign of things to come!!!!! Anything bout Dan Conner?
March 14th, 2013 at 8:54 pm
684.jackasspuria Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:42 pm
Edward Teach
Exactly.
I wanted to show the masses in here that believe Mark Davis would cater to their whims it is unrealistic.
Thanks for helping me prove my point.
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I do understand the frustration. I’ve been a fan since the mid-1960s and have seen both the great and the awful, and I’ve thrown my share of stuff at the TV over the past several years just like everybody else.
I just think that a guy with Reggie’s resume and with his reputation around the league is eminently more qualified to solve this mess than a bunch of angry guys on a blog that have never done anything remotely near what McKenzie has in this league.
When you have fans from the team he just left telling us exactly how it’s going to be in the beginning, and telling us to be patient because it will all make sense in the end, and being completely spot-on with their analysis thus far, it only solidifies my faith in the guy. I don’t expect everybody to feel the same way, but I will confess to looking forward to how they rationalize their comments when he does get us going again.
March 14th, 2013 at 8:55 pm
Well said Priest. You know what they say about beating a deaf drum?
March 14th, 2013 at 8:56 pm
Mark Davis is the one that hired him and continue to keep McKenzie employed.
Blame Mark, not Reggie.
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I’d blame Mark but he just doesn’t know any better.
Reggie is supposed to know.
But who I really blame is Wolfe. He sold Mark a stack of pancakes just so his son could get a promotion up in Green Bay.
March 14th, 2013 at 8:57 pm
Edward Teach Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:34 pm
Things are going EXACTLY the way Packer fans said they would. Right down to the knashing of teeth and tearing of hair by some of the more impatient fans.
I’m enjoying it unfold, actually. Mainly because I want to see how those people rationalize their anger and insults after Reggie turns things around (although I have an idea that some of them will attempt to save face by saying he could have done it sooner if he’d only done it their way, lol)
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Blackbeard, you’ve been a voice of reason and levelheadedness on this board for years. Although I usually agree with you, and enjoy your insight (this time is no exception), it really makes me fear for your health. I have a stroke a day just reading the things these people say, I couldn’t imagine trying to fight the good fight.
March 14th, 2013 at 8:58 pm
he11 yeah!! I catch one every morning and another one every night!!
cant block for $hit thou!! lol
March 14th, 2013 at 8:59 pm
Pancakes sound good. Right now I don’t see Reggie that way and I hope I’m wrong. For the life of me I can’t see getting worse as getting better.
March 14th, 2013 at 9:00 pm
679,
Maybe as far as the day to day operation of a franchise is concerned, but I can give u many examples of where I KNEW better than what many GM’s decided to do.
I wanted us to get Adrian Peterson for just one easy example. Not AFTER but when it went down…or didn’t as the case may be. In that case I DID know better than alot of the GM’s.
Also, everyone that said we shouldn’t pick DHB turned out to be “right”. Chris Williams of the Bears. I KNEW he would be a bust and had an injury history Chi. shouldn’t touch. They did and they were wrong. My point isn’t to brag that I know more than every GM in the league just to say sometimes the lowly fan actually does know better when it comes to who we should pick up.
I admit I know little about the day to day duties of a capologist or how to run an efficient front office.
March 14th, 2013 at 9:02 pm
715.mcthompso Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:57 pm
Edward Teach Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:34 pm
Things are going EXACTLY the way Packer fans said they would. Right down to the knashing of teeth and tearing of hair by some of the more impatient fans.
I’m enjoying it unfold, actually. Mainly because I want to see how those people rationalize their anger and insults after Reggie turns things around (although I have an idea that some of them will attempt to save face by saying he could have done it sooner if he’d only done it their way, lol)
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Blackbeard, you’ve been a voice of reason and levelheadedness on this board for years. Although I usually agree with you, and enjoy your insight (this time is no exception), it really makes me fear for your health. I have a stroke a day just reading the things these people say, I couldn’t imagine trying to fight the good fight.
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That’s very nice of you to say, thank you.
I enjoy (most of) the give and take, so I’m nowhere near a stroke. I might be if I had Reggie’s job, though
March 14th, 2013 at 9:02 pm
Nmamdi won’t resign for a stack of pancakes. 3.5 mil maybe. But not for a stack.
March 14th, 2013 at 9:03 pm
We all in the end want the Raiders to win and it pains me when I see young talent leave for no other reason than we didn’t plan well.
I feel very strongly that reggie can draft players but that is only part of what being a good GM is about. He has to learn this league and how to navigate the rough waters. Because it is a dog eat dog culturewhat happened in Green Bay is irrelevant this is a whole different animal he is it there is no one but him doing this and he needs to learn……..period
March 14th, 2013 at 9:03 pm
Anything about urlacher? Thought vikes were going after him.
March 14th, 2013 at 9:04 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:53 pm
edward teach Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:40 pm
jackasspuria Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:33 pm
Mark Davis could give a rat’s arse about the fans.
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Show me an owner or a GM that catered to the whims of the fan base and I’ll show you a guy that never won squat.
Fans don’t know jack. We like to think we do sometimes and it’s fun to speculate and share opinions, but when it comes right down to it, we don’t know the first thing about running an NFL franchise.
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ET, I couldn’t care less where Reggie comes from. You cannot allow young talent to leave like he does and it not bite you in the ass.
It’s fine to believe in the guy but his inexperience is glaring at this point. Now if he learns from his mistakes and corrects himself he can biuld just fine. But at this point we’re getting picked apart, I’m not looking for bigtime FA scores I’m talking about keeping the talent you have.
This stuff aint rocket science players win games nothing else. Now I love the fact he will try to biuld through the draft but you must keep them as you draft them and the only wya to do that is pay them………….period
Smoke and mirrors doesn’t work in this league you must have talent. That cost money and he will pay some bad contracts like everyone else no one is perfect I expect some mistakes but not consistently he has to learn. To hell with what happened in Green bay this is Oakland and it’s the Raiders……..period
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I have prolly butted heads with you about CP, but you get it. You have to sometimes over-pay to REWARD your good players on a bottom team or you have NOTHING.
No reward system. Nothing. The KC Royals of the NFL.
Reggie has to figure this out soon… no reason a good YOUNG home grown d-lineman like Bryant should go elsewhere. They are so hard to REPLACE!!!
March 14th, 2013 at 9:05 pm
fvck shrek…he married a 1 legged waitress at i-hop…get it?
March 14th, 2013 at 9:06 pm
Huh? Several day courtship of this lber?
Sht or get off the pot you almost unknown player!
March 14th, 2013 at 9:08 pm
My opinion on Reggie is I don’t know yet. My opinion is fluid each day.
I enjoy speculating though. I like the “what if” we did this or that and have a propensity for the knee jerk reactive post based on my Raider state of mind at the moment.
I will always happily eat crow if I predict something negative for the Raiders and it turns out different.
March 14th, 2013 at 9:09 pm
Guys, relax,fire up a fatty.
just sit back and enjoy the ride.
really what the fuk else are you going to do? ?
March 14th, 2013 at 9:09 pm
IHOP Field Stadium, House of the Oakland Raiders
Get used to it. I have. 75,000 seats sold out every home game.
March 14th, 2013 at 9:09 pm
ok then what? ?
March 14th, 2013 at 9:12 pm
Dunno Raider
Anything is better than Overstock.com (O.co) Coliseum.
March 14th, 2013 at 9:12 pm
R8ER MIKE Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 9:09 pm
ok then what? ?
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Bich about it. Puff, puff, sip, and bich about it some more like always.
March 14th, 2013 at 9:14 pm
I think alot of the guys who are supporting Reggie would change their tune if he did bring on ASO and Woodson.
For me, it would sway me more to his “side” actually.
Veteran leadership can serve to help even in a “rebuild”. Plus….it might help us win more games now which I am totally down for.
March 14th, 2013 at 9:16 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 9:14 pm
I think alot of the guys who are supporting Reggie would change their tune if he did bring on ASO and Woodson.
For me, it would sway me more to his “side” actually.
Veteran leadership can serve to help even in a “rebuild”. Plus….it might help us win more games now which I am totally down for.
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Would be sweet, but ain’t gonna happen.
March 14th, 2013 at 9:16 pm
Think we are on the same page sir!!
March 14th, 2013 at 9:16 pm
Gdog,
Bryant got way overpaid. He isn’t even as good as Tommy Kelly. We can’t overpay to keep our own marginal players. I can’t recall any games where I sat back and said to myself, man that Bryant is a game changer. Was he worth keeping at a reasonable price? Sure. Did he get overpriced because of the new agent negotiation period? Yep.
Losing Bryant was okay.
Branch and routt were similar players that were overvalued by the fan base, and the gms….we don’t need more of those types of mistakes.
March 14th, 2013 at 9:17 pm
Priest, We don’t know for sure if Reggie didn’t try and sign Des Bryant and Wheeler, and even offer them a more than fair deal.
March 14th, 2013 at 9:17 pm
DJ Johnny
McKenzie surely was on the veteran path today.
The Raiders hosted Terrence Newman (34 years old, 35 when season gets rolling) and Corey Williams (33 years old).
Newman, a cornerback, played well for Cincy last year and was given a positive grade by Pro Football Focus.
Williams, a defensive tackle, has been on a steady decline since his days as a Brown. Connection here is Packers drafted Williams when McKenzie was part of Packers staff.
March 14th, 2013 at 9:18 pm
718.DJ Johnny Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 9:00 pm
679,
Maybe as far as the day to day operation of a franchise is concerned, but I can give u many examples of where I KNEW better than what many GM’s decided to do.
I wanted us to get Adrian Peterson for just one easy example. Not AFTER but when it went down…or didn’t as the case may be. In that case I DID know better than alot of the GM’s.
Also, everyone that said we shouldn’t pick DHB turned out to be “right”. Chris Williams of the Bears. I KNEW he would be a bust and had an injury history Chi. shouldn’t touch. They did and they were wrong. My point isn’t to brag that I know more than every GM in the league just to say sometimes the lowly fan actually does know better when it comes to who we should pick up.
I admit I know little about the day to day duties of a capologist or how to run an efficient front office.
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Yeah, that last part is what I was talking about. We don’t see the contracts or any of the other stuff. We aren’t spending the majority of our waking lives looking three, four, five years down the road and trying to formulate some kind of plan that combines fiscal responsibility with fielding a winning team. We don’t see the books, or any other sensitive information. So, we guess.
Drafting guys near the top is the easy part, if there is an easy part. Hell, I could name all kinds of guys I wish we would have taken, and recommended that we take at the time. I wanted Roethlesberger. Got into heated arguments with Priest about taking Maurkice Pouncey in the first round. Donnie Avery. Sean Smith. Jammal Brown. And on and on. I also though Vernon Gholston was going to be a great player, so there you go.
March 14th, 2013 at 9:19 pm
The Yankees could care less how much money they spend if it wins.
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Not a salary-cap league.
If the NFL wasn’t a hard-cap league, I wouldn’t care what players made either.
But since the cap puts serious restrictions on things, go ask the Ravens, it all matters.
March 14th, 2013 at 9:19 pm
DJ Johnny
I’m trying to find the link so I can post it, but, one of the Bay Area beat writers reported the Raiders had contract offers to Bryant and Wheeler during the weekend before free agency.
Once Tuesday came along and visits were official, the numbers McKenzie and the Raiders were offering were far lower than the big-money deals both Desmond and Philip eventually landed with the Browns and Dolphins, respectively.
March 14th, 2013 at 9:22 pm
All this wining and dining of Nick Roach is kind of funny.
I mean…really. Two days here; touring the facilities…going out to dinner, trying to “woo” him I would guess.
It sounds like they’re trying to convince Tom Brady to join the team.
Does it really take this much “wooing’ and effort to try and convince Nick freaking Roach to join the Raiders?
March 14th, 2013 at 9:23 pm
Jackasspuria Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:50 pm
OklahomaRaider18
Chicago media saying Roach has been in Oakland two days. Dined with Raiders brass on Wednesday, still in Oakland on Thursday. No word on signing/contract.
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Maybe he is just enjoying all the free steaks and mushed potatoes???
Too bad Al isn’t around anymore, he could’ve gotten Cheeseburgers and coleslaw.
March 14th, 2013 at 9:24 pm
If Reggie is going to avoid paying any decent young free agents, then I wish he would just go 100% in on the rebuild. No need to add any old players who might luck us into 5 wins and out of the clowney sweepstakes.
March 14th, 2013 at 9:25 pm
DJ Johnny
Roach, who is probably going to the the starting middle linebacker, may be thinking hard and long about joining the team.
“I’m going to be flanked by Miles Burris and Kaluka Maiava…” — He’s probably thinking about that.
March 14th, 2013 at 9:25 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 9:22 pm
All this wining and dining of Nick Roach is kind of funny.
I mean…really. Two days here; touring the facilities…going out to dinner, trying to “woo” him I would guess
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One visit to IHOP for a ‘build your own stack’ and its a done deal. Reggies ace in the hole.
March 14th, 2013 at 9:26 pm
Dakota Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 9:24 pm
If Reggie is going to avoid paying any decent young free agents, then I wish he would just go 100% in on the rebuild. No need to add any old players who might luck us into 5 wins and out of the clowney sweepstakes.
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Keep your towel in your pocket for now.
March 14th, 2013 at 9:27 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 9:22 pm
All this wining and dining of Nick Roach is kind of funny.
I mean…really. Two days here; touring the facilities…going out to dinner, trying to “woo” him I would guess.
It sounds like they’re trying to convince Tom Brady to join the team.
Does it really take this much “wooing’ and effort to try and convince Nick freaking Roach to join the Raiders?
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I know right.
Though to be fair, maybe it is just that they are working out the kinks on the contract. Or maybe Reggie is delaying the signing in hopes he lands Urlacher. Who knows… I bet Roach is ready to sign, but Reggie is just trying to penny pinch him here and there.
March 14th, 2013 at 9:28 pm
Just noticed this board went from arguing about the QB to what the F are we gonna do!
March 14th, 2013 at 9:29 pm
Edward Teach Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 9:02 pm
715.mcthompso Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:57 pm
Edward Teach Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:34 pm
Things are going EXACTLY the way Packer fans said they would. Right down to the knashing of teeth and tearing of hair by some of the more impatient fans.
I’m enjoying it unfold, actually. Mainly because I want to see how those people rationalize their anger and insults after Reggie turns things around (although I have an idea that some of them will attempt to save face by saying he could have done it sooner if he’d only done it their way, lol)
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if memory serves me correctly a big part of the packer turnaround was because they signed a risky free agent for 50+ mil..charles woodson..
stephen jackson 4 mil a year, shonn green 3 mil a year..too bad reggie didnt get one of those guys and trade dmac for a 2nd rounder.that would have been a great way to actually improve our team. Reggie is dumping players and salary, i get it. he will get time to prove himself. but with being 16 mil under the cap with a couple of other fat contracts that could be gone, its time for reggie to get a few mid level free agents,,terrance newman..really?
March 14th, 2013 at 9:29 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 9:22 pm
All this wining and dining of Nick Roach is kind of funny.
I mean…really. Two days here; touring the facilities…going out to dinner, trying to “woo” him I would guess.
It sounds like they’re trying to convince Tom Brady to join the team.
Does it really take this much “wooing’ and effort to try and convince Nick freaking Roach to join the Raiders?
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Seems a bit pathetic….but we are no longer a sexy destination….we are the ugly chick who has to beg for a one night stand.
March 14th, 2013 at 9:29 pm
Dakota Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 9:16 pm
Gdog,
Bryant got way overpaid. He isn’t even as good as Tommy Kelly. We can’t overpay to keep our own marginal players. I can’t recall any games where I sat back and said to myself, man that Bryant is a game changer. Was he worth keeping at a reasonable price? Sure. Did he get overpriced because of the new agent negotiation period? Yep.
Losing Bryant was okay.
Branch and routt were similar players that were overvalued by the fan base, and the gms….we don’t need more of those types of mistakes.
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Dakota, are you smoking something and drinking too. So you want a gamechanger for $34mill are you NUTS??
Players that are gamechangers go for close to $100mill that kid got $34 and we probably coud’ve got him for $28 if we were proactive.
Soem of you don’t know your ass froma hole in the ground. Des Bryant was well worth what he got on the OPEN market…………period
March 14th, 2013 at 9:31 pm
Dakota Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 9:29 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 9:22 pm
All this wining and dining of Nick Roach is kind of funny.
I mean…really. Two days here; touring the facilities…going out to dinner, trying to “woo” him I would guess.
It sounds like they’re trying to convince Tom Brady to join the team.
Does it really take this much “wooing’ and effort to try and convince Nick freaking Roach to join the Raiders?
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Seems a bit pathetic….but we are no longer a sexy destination….we are the ugly chick who has to beg for a one night stand.
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So that’s why we are pulling the “dine and wine”. Gotta get them drunk first… got it.
March 14th, 2013 at 9:32 pm
Gdog,
Bryant got way overpaid. He isn’t even as good as Tommy Kelly. We can’t overpay to keep our own marginal players. I can’t recall any games where I sat back and said to myself, man that Bryant is a game changer. Was he worth keeping at a reasonable price? Sure. Did he get overpriced because of the new agent negotiation period? Yep.
Losing Bryant was okay.
Branch and routt were similar players that were overvalued by the fan base, and the gms….we don’t need more of those types of mistak
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He was on fire at the end of the season, and with young d-linmen, who knows what the upside is. Its a tough position to play.
Routt was a JOKE. Al was crazy. Branch is ok… I have no problem REWARDING him after a very good 2011 season. He didn’t play as well in 2012… but that is not the reason to not reward players.
Its a crap shoot… you cannot be scared to roll the dice. Reggie seems TERRIFIED right now.
March 14th, 2013 at 9:33 pm
Life in LA? http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/15/anschutz-says-farmer-field-is-not-dead/
March 14th, 2013 at 9:34 pm
752.EMRaiders Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 9:31 pm
Dakota Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 9:29 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 9:22 pm
All this wining and dining of Nick Roach is kind of funny.
I mean…really. Two days here; touring the facilities…going out to dinner, trying to “woo” him I would guess.
It sounds like they’re trying to convince Tom Brady to join the team.
Does it really take this much “wooing’ and effort to try and convince Nick freaking Roach to join the Raiders?
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Seems a bit pathetic….but we are no longer a sexy destination….we are the ugly chick who has to beg for a one night stand.
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So that’s why we are pulling the “dine and wine”. Gotta get them drunk first… got it.
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Old school. Now it’s gotomeeting.com and lattes. No wonder Goodell’s getting away with pussifying the league.
March 14th, 2013 at 9:34 pm
CDERaider
L.A. Times says otherwise…
http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-aeg-nfl-in-la-20130314,0,1108359.story
March 14th, 2013 at 9:34 pm
Steve Corkran @CorkOnTheNFL
DL Desmond Bryant and LB Phillip Wheeler are only players among Raiders 17 unrestricted free agents signed by other teams so far.
March 14th, 2013 at 9:35 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 9:17 pm
Priest, We don’t know for sure if Reggie didn’t try and sign Des Bryant and Wheeler, and even offer them a more than fair deal.
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I do there is no way that kid turns down $30 mill if he is offered it prior to FA he would’ve jumped at the chance. Reggie is lowballing and underestimating it’s easy to see. He didn’t sign a single player before the FA except Coye Francies. That tells you all you need to know.
March 14th, 2013 at 9:35 pm
Dakota Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 9:29 pm
Seems a bit pathetic….but we are no longer a sexy destination….we are the ugly chick who has to beg for a one night stand.
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The only upside is to get rewarded with a contract with a different team. Why not cut out the middleman?
Reggie NEEDS to swing and miss with good young talent at times.
He hasn’t figured this out yet…
March 14th, 2013 at 9:36 pm
One thing is for sure it will be interesting to see all the UDFA this year.
There’s gonna be a lot of them.
March 14th, 2013 at 9:36 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 9:17 pm
Priest, We don’t know for sure if Reggie didn’t try and sign Des Bryant and Wheeler, and even offer them a more than fair deal.
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I heard there was some negotiating with the details on the IHOP meal ticket. Don’t know how that went tho.
March 14th, 2013 at 9:37 pm
Dakota, if what you say is true why is KC and Miami signing players? Players will go where they can get paid……..period
March 14th, 2013 at 9:38 pm
Jerry McDonald @Jerrymcd
@espn_afcwest reporting Raiders were trying to sign CB Sean Smith, who got three years, $18 million from division rival Chiefs
March 14th, 2013 at 9:38 pm
‘build your own stack’ baby!
March 14th, 2013 at 9:38 pm
Priest no offense, but you are the king of overvaluing raider players. If half of what you have said about raider players over the past decade had been true we would be a dynasty.
Check back next year and we’ll talk about how great a player Bryant turned out to be….and we can talk about Michael bush, routt, fargas and Ronald curry too.
March 14th, 2013 at 9:39 pm
jackasspuria Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 9:25 pm
DJ Johnny
Roach, who is probably going to the the starting middle linebacker, may be thinking hard and long about joining the team.
“I’m going to be flanked by Miles Burris and Kaluka Maiava…” — He’s probably thinking about that.
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Jack, I’m sure he is. What is the disappointment level gonna be if we don’t sign him after all this?
Like Dakota said, it seems we’ve been relegated to basically begging mid level guys to come join the fun.
March 14th, 2013 at 9:39 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 9:37 pm
Dakota, if what you say is true why is KC and Miami signing players? Players will go where they can get paid……..period
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Obviously takes more than a IHOP meal ticket.
March 14th, 2013 at 9:40 pm
Man it’s crazy, $30 mill is nothing for a starting 3tech that can play the way Des can. TK got $55 mill when he signed 5 years ago. $30 mill is nothing!!
March 14th, 2013 at 9:40 pm
I really think Reggie is aiming for next year. He came into this with a 3 year plan. first two years would be what we have witnessed so far, but year 3 is where we will make our debut. All the players he is getting now are just band-aids. From the looks of it, it seems that next year we will have around 40-50 mil in cap space and a butt load of picks in the draft from all the players we lost this year. That is when The Gut will explode and we will be signing great players left and right.
That is it right? It has to be… I don’t know what else makes sense. Because so far it really seems as if we are just throwing a team together so that we can go out and play on sundays, but with no real intentions of winning.
An added bonus to this might be that DA is on his way out, and Reggie knows it, and he is just getting the cap ready, loading up on picks, and cleaning the slate for you know who….. CHUCKY!
Oh, one can only wish…
March 14th, 2013 at 9:41 pm
Albert Breer @AlbertBreer
Sean Smith got a three-year, $18 million deal from KC. $11m guaranteed.
Steve Corkran and Jerry Mac both say no way McKenzie was shelling out that much coin.
Raiders were trying to sign him but KC had the coin.
March 14th, 2013 at 9:41 pm
So what do ya’ll think about playing Tyvon Branch at FS and letting Mike the hitman Mitchell hold down SS???
March 14th, 2013 at 9:41 pm
Its like a poker game.. sometimes you have to let it be known that you are willing to take risks.. even if you fail.
Right now Reggie is too scared to even Annie in!!
Why play here unless you are desperate?
March 14th, 2013 at 9:41 pm
Dunno Raider Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 9:36 pm
DJ Johnny Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 9:17 pm
Priest, We don’t know for sure if Reggie didn’t try and sign Des Bryant and Wheeler, and even offer them a more than fair deal.
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I heard there was some negotiating with the details on the IHOP meal ticket. Don’t know how that went tho.
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Jack was saying Reggie did offer both Bryant and Wheeler contracts but it was way too low. Same thing for Sean Smith apparently.
March 14th, 2013 at 9:42 pm
“I’ve been dazed and confused so long it’s not true”
I think all the Reggie bashing only make’s him look good.
Keep it up!
The Raiders……after a decade are on the right track.
March 14th, 2013 at 9:43 pm
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Raiders free-agent DE Matt Shaughnessy is visiting Cardinals, then Titans on Friday and possibly Eagles if no other deal done.
March 14th, 2013 at 9:44 pm
Shaugnessy visiting the Titans too, would ya’ll welcome him back?
March 14th, 2013 at 9:45 pm
Dakota and you’re the king of stupidity. You wnat a gamechanger for $34Million you have to be joking you’d have to double that at least.
March 14th, 2013 at 9:46 pm
Gdog Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 9:41 pm
Its like a poker game.. sometimes you have to let it be known that you are willing to take risks.. even if you fail.
Right now Reggie is too scared to even Annie in!!
Why play here unless you are desperate?
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That is fine and I think he should have spent money and gambled on some free agent talent, but if you are going to gamble why gamble on guys who gave been a part of last years historically bad defense?
Take a chance on someone else please.
March 14th, 2013 at 9:48 pm
Nycraider Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 9:29 pm
Edward Teach Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 9:02 pm
715.mcthompso Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:57 pm
Edward Teach Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:34 pm
Things are going EXACTLY the way Packer fans said they would. Right down to the knashing of teeth and tearing of hair by some of the more impatient fans.
I’m enjoying it unfold, actually. Mainly because I want to see how those people rationalize their anger and insults after Reggie turns things around (although I have an idea that some of them will attempt to save face by saying he could have done it sooner if he’d only done it their way, lol)
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if memory serves me correctly a big part of the packer turnaround was because they signed a risky free agent for 50+ mil..charles woodson..
stephen jackson 4 mil a year, shonn green 3 mil a year..too bad reggie didnt get one of those guys and trade dmac for a 2nd rounder.that would have been a great way to actually improve our team. Reggie is dumping players and salary, i get it. he will get time to prove himself. but with being 16 mil under the cap with a couple of other fat contracts that could be gone, its time for reggie to get a few mid level free agents,,terrance newman..really?
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Jackson is old and beat up, and Greene is terrible.
March 14th, 2013 at 9:49 pm
Gdog Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 9:41 pm
Its like a poker game.. sometimes you have to let it be known that you are willing to take risks.. even if you fail.
Right now Reggie is too scared to even Annie in!!
Why play here unless you are desperate?
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I’d rather my team’s GM be playing position and pot odds.
March 14th, 2013 at 9:49 pm
oklahomaRaider18 Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 9:41 pm
So what do ya’ll think about playing Tyvon Branch at FS and letting Mike the hitman Mitchell hold down SS???
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untill further notice, thats the way Isee it.
March 14th, 2013 at 9:49 pm
Oklahoma,
I don’t see that we have any other choice but to go with Branch and Mitchell as the safeties. So many holes to fill and no way to cover every position.
March 14th, 2013 at 9:50 pm
its the wave if the future…small ball….like i said aint no good players coming here as long as reggie is here…the word is out….
March 14th, 2013 at 9:50 pm
You guys want a players for teh price of a happy meal. Join the real world these guys get bigtime $$ average players can make $5million a year. A great player is going to start @ 12-15 mill a year. A starting talented 3tech for $6 a year is a bargain..period
March 14th, 2013 at 9:51 pm
Huge mistake for RM not to be at the Smith’s Pro Day Today….
Even if he isn’t interested he should have be there…
This is a FACT!
RM fails AGAIN!
March 14th, 2013 at 9:53 pm
Also,we have to go all-in on DMAC and hope Reece can fill the void on offense. Myers probably isn’t coming back, so let’s pray that Ausberry comes to play. Aside from the line, we need to focus our limited resources on D this year.
And we should get Danario Alexander. Replace DHB at 1/10 the price.
March 14th, 2013 at 9:53 pm
Dakota Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 9:46 pm
Gdog Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 9:41 pm
Its like a poker game.. sometimes you have to let it be known that you are willing to take risks.. even if you fail.
Right now Reggie is too scared to even Annie in!!
Why play here unless you are desperate?
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That is fine and I think he should have spent money and gambled on some free agent talent, but if you are going to gamble why gamble on guys who gave been a part of last years historically bad defense?
Take a chance on someone else please.
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You are missing the point completely Dakota, WADR.
You reward the best players on your team regardless of how bad the team is. Otherwise there is no TEAM.
If we can’t even keep our own good players, why would any other good players come here?
Especially when Reggie only wants to pay at/under market value…
March 14th, 2013 at 9:53 pm
Consider the source…
Oakland Raiders News @RaiderNewsFlash
Terrance Newman is now a Oakland Raider. Should be announced today or Fri morning
March 14th, 2013 at 9:54 pm
OklahomaRaider18 Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 9:41 pm
So what do ya’ll think about playing Tyvon Branch at FS and letting Mike the hitman Mitchell hold down SS???
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They are the same player so it doesn’t matter which one plays where, the coverage will be terrible, with the exception of every third game when a TE will get locked down.
March 14th, 2013 at 9:55 pm
i believe it he is 35 years old…classic reggie…
March 14th, 2013 at 9:55 pm
jackasspuria Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 9:53 pm
Consider the source…
Oakland Raiders News @RaiderNewsFlash
Terrance Newman is now a Oakland Raider. Should be announced today or Fri morning
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Not familiar with this “source” Jack.
Not reliable?
March 14th, 2013 at 9:56 pm
is mm signed?
March 14th, 2013 at 9:57 pm
RaiderNewsFlash claims to have a source ‘in the buildilng’.
The person who runs the account is spotty at best.
Although, person may be connecting dots.
Cincy media heads saying sources close to Newman say he will ink deal with Raiders.
March 14th, 2013 at 9:57 pm
Reggie McKenzie needs to watch The Godfather and take notes:
This is in basic GM 101″
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5m4jpUyb-g
March 14th, 2013 at 9:57 pm
Al_is_theraiders Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 9:56 pm
is mm signed?
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nope
March 14th, 2013 at 9:57 pm
Is MM a Restricted FA???
March 14th, 2013 at 9:58 pm
On Newman
Downside — 35 years old when season starts, stop-gap corner.
Upside — Newman did have a (+8.6) ProFootballFocus grade on 878 snaps in 2012.
March 14th, 2013 at 10:00 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CATHO_2onWM
Newman/ Moss 2005
March 14th, 2013 at 10:01 pm
Gdog, we don’t have a lot of good players. Bryant wasn’t worth tying up that much cap space in coming years.
He was okay….let the browns pay to see if he ever elevates above okay.
I am confident that if we have a good player that needs to be resigned, Reggie will not let him walk.
Let mike Lombardi have Bryant.
March 14th, 2013 at 10:01 pm
Newman ran a 4.37 at the NFL combine. But didn’t Moss run a 4.2-something?
March 14th, 2013 at 10:02 pm
OklahomaRaider18 Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 9:57 pm
Is MM a Restricted FA???
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nope
March 14th, 2013 at 10:02 pm
RediaR Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 9:48 pm
Nycraider Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 9:29 pm
Edward Teach Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 9:02 pm
715.mcthompso Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:57 pm
Edward Teach Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 8:34 pm
Things are going EXACTLY the way Packer fans said they would. Right down to the knashing of teeth and tearing of hair by some of the more impatient fans.
I’m enjoying it unfold, actually. Mainly because I want to see how those people rationalize their anger and insults after Reggie turns things around (although I have an idea that some of them will attempt to save face by saying he could have done it sooner if he’d only done it their way, lol)
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if memory serves me correctly a big part of the packer turnaround was because they signed a risky free agent for 50+ mil..charles woodson..
stephen jackson 4 mil a year, shonn green 3 mil a year..too bad reggie didnt get one of those guys and trade dmac for a 2nd rounder.that would have been a great way to actually improve our team. Reggie is dumping players and salary, i get it. he will get time to prove himself. but with being 16 mil under the cap with a couple of other fat contracts that could be gone, its time for reggie to get a few mid level free agents,,terrance newman..really?
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Jackson is old and beat up, and Greene is terrible.
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both more productive than dmac and dmac can bring a draft pick
March 14th, 2013 at 10:02 pm
No one could make up HOW COMPLETELY IGNORANT REGGIE MCKENZIE IS….
You couldn’t make this stuff up…..
You can’t play the hand if you don’t have an ante!
Wake UP MARK DAVIS!
March 14th, 2013 at 10:03 pm
2013
March 14th, 2013 at 10:04 pm
Backstageatapuppetshow Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 9:51 pm
Huge mistake for RM not to be at the Smith’s Pro Day Today….
Even if he isn’t interested he should have be there…
This is a FACT!
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What makes that a fact?
March 14th, 2013 at 10:04 pm
So far Philip Wheeler, Desmond Bryant and recently Matt Shaughnessy are the three of Oakland’s 17 unrestricted free agents to get a look-see/visit.
Wheeler signed with Miami, Desmond with Cleveland.
Shaughnessy is in Arizona and could be headed to Tennessee for a visit next.
March 14th, 2013 at 10:07 pm
In addition to the “Newman is a Raider” tweet, here’s another from RaidersNewsFlash….
Oakland Raiders News @RaiderNewsFlash
McKenzie not done cutting/releasing players. in the next 24 hrs expect the names to come out
March 14th, 2013 at 10:07 pm
803…spot on…mark will see soon enough when he still
has no sell outs. my question to salary cap lovers is how much space should we have until we start spending?
March 14th, 2013 at 10:07 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 10:04 pm
Backstageatapuppetshow Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 9:51 pm
Huge mistake for RM not to be at the Smith’s Pro Day Today….
Even if he isn’t interested he should have be there…
This is a FACT!
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What makes that a fact?
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Cause I said so.
March 14th, 2013 at 10:08 pm
foolkell dont know sh!t
March 14th, 2013 at 10:08 pm
jackasspuria Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 9:34 pm
Steve Corkran @CorkOnTheNFL
DL Desmond Bryant and LB Phillip Wheeler are only players among Raiders 17 unrestricted free agents signed by other teams so far.
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What does THAT tell ya? And Wheeler was a Reggie pick. And only here for one year.
March 14th, 2013 at 10:10 pm
yay for wheeler who thr fvck cares he is not here anymore reggie was too cheap to keep him…
March 14th, 2013 at 10:11 pm
If McKenzie is looking at veteran stop-gap signings, here’s an interesting candidate…
Rams will release SS Quintin Mikell.
Mikell graded out as a top-five safety in Pro Football Focus’ 2012 ratings, but he’s going on age 33 and was owed $6 million. The Rams do not value aging safeties enough to pay them that kind of coin. They now have needs at both safety spots and figure to pursue free agents like Louis Delmas, Kenny Phillips, Pat Chung, and Chris Clemons. Mikell should not lack for suitors because he can still play. He racked up 101 tackles, three sacks, and four forced fumbles last season.
March 14th, 2013 at 10:12 pm
I got some bad News Raider fans.
The 49ers are gonna sign BOTH ASMOUGHA and CHARLES WOODSON.
both are good friends and are gonna end up playing with eachother on the 49ers team.
Niners will have both signed by Saturday
March 14th, 2013 at 10:12 pm
Aso on one side and Newman on the other…with Woodson at FS and Branch at SS.
Maiva at MLB.
March 14th, 2013 at 10:13 pm
If Newman does come aboard, it should be fairly cheap.
He made only 825,000 with no bonus as a Bengal last season.
March 14th, 2013 at 10:14 pm
Impeach Hussein & Reggie!
#incompetence
March 14th, 2013 at 10:15 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit
That is what is being speculated.
C-Wood left SF and his agent/49ers didn’t discuss and haven’t discussed a contract.
Nnamdi headed to SF. Rob Ryan really wants him in New Orelans.
March 14th, 2013 at 10:15 pm
Obviously Reggie does not care for many of the players on our roster, and also does not believe in signing other teams good, young free agents……so, I think we all need to get used to the idea that we are going to suck for a few more seasons….and we have to just cross our fingers and hope Reggie doesn’t miss with many draft picks….based on last years draft, I am a little worried.
March 14th, 2013 at 10:16 pm
jackasspuria Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 10:07 pm
In addition to the “Newman is a Raider” tweet, here’s another from RaidersNewsFlash….
Oakland Raiders News @RaiderNewsFlash
McKenzie not done cutting/releasing players. in the next 24 hrs expect the names to come out
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If none of this stuff comes to fruition let’s all remember to at the least ignore “Raidersnewsflash” and at the most hammer them with insults and various forms of derision.
March 14th, 2013 at 10:16 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 10:08 pm
jackasspuria Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 9:34 pm
Steve Corkran @CorkOnTheNFL
DL Desmond Bryant and LB Phillip Wheeler are only players among Raiders 17 unrestricted free agents signed by other teams so far.
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What does THAT tell ya? And Wheeler was a Reggie pick. And only here for one year.
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If Reggie knew he was so good he would have signed him last season to a bigger deal than just for 1 season….
Reggie and Wheeler played a hand of poker….and Wheeler won!
March 14th, 2013 at 10:16 pm
Ya its gonna happen if the niners get CWOOD contract right.. Niners are working on it now
March 14th, 2013 at 10:17 pm
Backstageatapuppetshow Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 9:51 pm
Huge mistake for RM not to be at the Smith’s Pro Day Today….
Even if he isn’t interested he should have be there…
This is a FACT!
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What makes that a fact?
___________
Reggie was working on fA contract . Roach and Connor were in town.
and Raiders had 6 guys representing them there including OC
March 14th, 2013 at 10:19 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 10:17 pm
Backstageatapuppetshow Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 9:51 pm
Huge mistake for RM not to be at the Smith’s Pro Day Today….
Even if he isn’t interested he should have be there…
This is a FACT!
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What makes that a fact?
___________
Reggie was working on fA contract . Roach and Connor were in town.
and Raiders had 6 guys representing them there including OC
____________________
So what? I don’t care who was there. Reggie himself should have been there. I’m not gonna waste my time explaining it to you…
March 14th, 2013 at 10:19 pm
Akbar Gbajabiamila @Akbar_Gbaja
I predict The Bay Area will return two of its favorite sons in #FreeAgency.
March 14th, 2013 at 10:20 pm
Plus HARBAUGH was on Raider staff during Cwoodson and ASO year after
March 14th, 2013 at 10:21 pm
Matt Maiocco @MaioccoCSN
Nnamdi Asomugha, Louis Delmas and Dan Skuta all are still visiting with the 49ers. The waiting continues.
Skuta signed about an hour ago.
Always been partial to Maiocco. Reliable and a fellow Humboldt State alum.
March 14th, 2013 at 10:22 pm
4-12 last year. The season of regression. 2012.
The season of no signs of improvement. 2013. Or one could say the season of getting plugged. We are about to get plugged. Thats a big ouch.
March 14th, 2013 at 10:22 pm
Matt Maiocco @MaioccoCSN
Hearing there’s nothing imminent with 49ers and Nnamdi Asomugha, who visited Santa Clara on Thursday.
March 14th, 2013 at 10:22 pm
Gonna make that niner seattle rivarly interesting.
Being a fan of both ASO and Cwood.. gonna have to watch
March 14th, 2013 at 10:23 pm
Backstageatapuppetshow Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 10:19 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 10:17 pm
Backstageatapuppetshow Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 9:51 pm
Huge mistake for RM not to be at the Smith’s Pro Day Today….
Even if he isn’t interested he should have be there…
This is a FACT!
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What makes that a fact?
___________
Reggie was working on fA contract . Roach and Connor were in town.
and Raiders had 6 guys representing them there including OC
____________________
So what? I don’t care who was there. Reggie himself should have been there. I’m not gonna waste my time explaining it to you…
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Is it so we can feign interest more convincingly and have the Bills trade up to the #2 spot and take Geno ahead of us so we can have whoever the Jags were going to take on the board still? He doesn’t have to go to every pro day. He has scouts and other staff. He was busy talking to middling stopgaps.
March 14th, 2013 at 10:23 pm
Matt Maiocco @MaioccoCSN
Safety Louis Delmas, 11 years younger than Charles Woodson, is still visiting 49ers and remains a possibility to sign with SF.
March 14th, 2013 at 10:23 pm
Matt Maiocco @MaioccoCSN
Hearing there’s nothing imminent with 49ers and Nnamdi Asomugha, who visited Santa Clara on Thursday.
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doesnt mean it cant happen tho. me being a Raider fan.. i hope it doesnt
March 14th, 2013 at 10:25 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit
49ers playing the ‘wait another day, they get cheaper’ game, I bet.
49ers-Seahawks will definitely be interesting. Wonder how all those recent defensive ends signings by the Hawks will work out.
March 14th, 2013 at 10:26 pm
Damn. Jackson goes to the Falcons. He was on my wish list. Sh!t.
March 14th, 2013 at 10:26 pm
RRRRAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIDDDDDDDERRRRRRSSSSS!!!!!!
March 14th, 2013 at 10:27 pm
Louis Delmas would be a good pick up.. but he is injured alot
March 14th, 2013 at 10:28 pm
That makes sense. Puts the power back into their Oregon State RB group.
March 14th, 2013 at 10:28 pm
Bryant 34 millions, Wheeler 26 mill, Shaughnessy a hot comodity, Seymour not playing for less tan 7millions, Goodson a jet starter, Huff and DHB might get good deals, cards salivating for Palmer, i don’t want to know hoy much Houston and Veldeher and Wiz worth.
Didn’t we have the less talent team in the league?
March 14th, 2013 at 10:29 pm
I still think Raiders are waiting to use that money on ELVIS DUMERVIL if he is cut tommorow.
if not.. shaunnashy and mitchell will be signed by sunday
March 14th, 2013 at 10:29 pm
Why does it seem every other team in the NFL is getting better and we’re stuck in the same craphole. There seems to be no logic in reggies moves. I’ll believe it’s getting better when I actually see us winning. Till then Reggie and da suck ass.
March 14th, 2013 at 10:30 pm
The Broncos will cut defensive end Elvis Dumervil on Friday if he doesn’t take a significant pay cut. Although all indications are that Dumervil isn’t willing to cut his pay by as much as the Broncos want, Denver front office boss John Elway says he wants Dumervil to realize that there’s just no way he’s ever going to get paid the $12 million salary on his current contract.
“It’s so far out of whack,” Elway told the Denver Post of Dumervil’s salary. “Hopefully, he realizes that.”
Pef PFT
March 14th, 2013 at 10:30 pm
Ron69
That is what the Bay Area beat writers/columnists were stating.
If Raiders roster last season was so ‘atrocious’ and talent-less, why did Bryant and Wheeler get big-time money?
March 14th, 2013 at 10:30 pm
These are the deals that wrench your gut,” Elway said. “As an ex-player, I hate to see that. I hated to see that happen to a teammate. And I hate having to do it, in the position I’m in. But I’ve got to do what’s best for this football team.”
It’s looking like Elway will decide that what’s best for the Broncos is to release Dumervil and sign another defensive end
March 14th, 2013 at 10:31 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit
Ha!
Elway with a McKenzie-sim! “Out of whack!”
March 14th, 2013 at 10:31 pm
I hope Reggie fills out the roster and then signs Veldy to an extension over the summer. I don’t want to deal with that next year.
March 14th, 2013 at 10:33 pm
Newman? Leadership, mentoring perhaps? So he works out with the team and Reggie dines him at IHOP. He’s on board. Taiwan Jones at CB outta be real interesting. He’ll be so tested after a few games it will be either pass or fail. Oh boy.
March 14th, 2013 at 10:33 pm
I think DA will be pleading with REGGIE to go after DUMMERVIL..
IF Raiders were to land Elvis.. they would be back in business .. not even joking
March 14th, 2013 at 10:34 pm
Doom will probably do something stupid like sign with the chargers.
March 14th, 2013 at 10:34 pm
Still need a cb and a pass rusher….
March 14th, 2013 at 10:35 pm
“It’s way outta whack”, the new termonology for your making to much for being crap.
March 14th, 2013 at 10:35 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit
I’m surprised there hasn’t been word of a DJ Williams or Tracy Porter visit.
DA — may have already — should be pining Reggie to bring those guys in for a look-see.
Dumervil would give Oakland a legit pass-rusher.
March 14th, 2013 at 10:35 pm
Not if DA gets on the phone right away.. and Reggie is offering 8 mill a year 3 yrs contract plus 2 mill signing bonus
March 14th, 2013 at 10:35 pm
I’m surprised there hasn’t been word of a DJ Williams or Tracy Porter visit.
DA — may have already — should be pining Reggie to bring those guys in for a look-see.
Dumervil would give Oakland a legit pass-rusher.
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its coming , believe me by next week.. ever day the price gets lower and lower
March 14th, 2013 at 10:36 pm
Elway says dummervilles contract is “out of whack”….other gms stealing reggie’s line!
March 14th, 2013 at 10:37 pm
AL had signed WIMBLEY to a 5yrs 45 million dollar contrtact. now thats huuggge
March 14th, 2013 at 10:38 pm
Dumervil is a long shot. If RM hasn’t done it with anyone before he won’t do it now. He’s a cheapskate. Even if Denise begs RM won’t shell out the bucks needed to sign him. I’m sure he’d want more coming to a rebuilding team than a contender.
March 14th, 2013 at 10:39 pm
Dumerville would be sweet.
March 14th, 2013 at 10:39 pm
Wimbley then signed a 5yrs 35 million dollar contract with Tennesse
March 14th, 2013 at 10:39 pm
Getty Images
The shakeup that resulted in AEG being off the market and CEO Tim Leiweke out of a job doesn’t change the company’s plan to bring the NFL back to L.A.
In fact, there’s a chance Thursday’s events intensify it.
“It’s time for the NFL to get serious and decide what they want to do,” Anschutz told the Los Angeles Daily News. “It doesn’t do any good to sit on the sidelines all the time. Clearly a deal can get done. And by the way, this isn’t a terribly complicated deal to get done.”
He’s right, but the NFL won’t return to L.A. without the right deal. Translation, the deal that allows the NFL to make a killing, even if it leads to the possible death of its partner. Though Anschutz isn’t the type to be steamrollered, snookered, or bamboozled, he’s showing a bit too much of a desire to get this done, which the NFL can and will use against him.
“I’ve been in the deal-making business for almost 50 years now,” Anschutz said. “I’ve made a lot of them.
“I think [Thursday's announcement] is a strong signal that structuring a deal should not be hard. There is nothing magic. We own 100-percent interests of venues around the world and partial interests of ventures around the world. We own 100-percent sports teams and we own partial sports teams. There’s no magic here.”
It’s not about magic. It’s about money. The NFL won’t return to L.A. until it can do the right deal. In other words, the best deal.
Anschutz’s words and actions suggest that he wants to do a deal. Which means that the league will continue to keep its heels dug in until Anschutz agrees to the best deal for the league.
Even if it’s a bad deal for Anschutz.
March 14th, 2013 at 10:41 pm
You know, lost in this McKenzie is cheap talk is the above-average contracts he gave Branch and Brisiel.
McKenzie shelled out some coin — deemed questionable by media pundits/fans — to those two.
Perhaps, McKenzie has been jaded by getting burned by handing out big money and will remain cheap.
Still, McKenzie did dole out big-money deals before…
March 14th, 2013 at 10:46 pm
Ever since he made those signings he’s been gun shy.
March 14th, 2013 at 10:48 pm
Greg Papa partner on the game John Lund tweeted Scheter saying the Raiders should keep their money and not spend bing on Shannausey.. 26yrs old and had a bad year last year
March 14th, 2013 at 10:50 pm
Papa is an awesome announcer. That is all. Matt was injured the year before. Watch him explode this year.
March 14th, 2013 at 10:51 pm
I dont know.. i’d offer Matt a 2yr 6 million dollar contract
March 14th, 2013 at 10:51 pm
with a low cap hit
March 14th, 2013 at 10:51 pm
jackasspuria Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 10:41 pm
You know, lost in this McKenzie is cheap talk is the above-average contracts he gave Branch and Brisiel.
McKenzie shelled out some coin — deemed questionable by media pundits/fans — to those two.
Perhaps, McKenzie has been jaded by getting burned by handing out big money and will remain cheap.
Still, McKenzie did dole out big-money deals before
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That was before he started shelling out big bucks at IHOP. I’m telling you, put those FAs we want on a menu and they’ll be here faster than a cat can licks its ass. No bull.
March 14th, 2013 at 10:52 pm
Brisiel, Branch and Maiava have something in common, they are tuff and i mean tuff guys, Brisiel has the reputation to be the toughest guy in the league.
March 14th, 2013 at 10:52 pm
He got no pressure on the qb last year..
March 14th, 2013 at 10:53 pm
Mathieu is another on my wish list.
March 14th, 2013 at 10:53 pm
He had 31 tackles and 3.5 sacks last year
March 14th, 2013 at 10:54 pm
He played in 16 games last year.
he played in 3 games 2011 got injured.
2010 he had 49 tackles and 7 sacks. (wimbley helped alot)
March 14th, 2013 at 10:54 pm
Maybe Reggie is hangin on the cheap because he knows it’s gonna take a whole lotta more than a IHOP meal ticket to sign our #3 pick. Not my call.
March 14th, 2013 at 10:56 pm
Ellerbe is another wish list guy to replace McClain.
March 14th, 2013 at 10:58 pm
Tuck rule elimination. BFD. 12 years to late. Shove it where the sun don’t shine.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:00 pm
lol Desmand Bryants said the BROWNS were not his 1st choice.. what he means is you guys gave him the most money
March 14th, 2013 at 11:05 pm
Philip Wheeler contract breakdown with Dolphins:
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/miami-dolphins/philip-wheeler/
March 14th, 2013 at 11:07 pm
Not many details on Desmond Bryant’s contract with Cleveland other than he has a $5 million roster bonus March 15 (Friday).
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/desmond-bryant/
March 14th, 2013 at 11:20 pm
I was very high on Shaughnessy before he hurt his shoulder, but it’s clearly still bothering him and his ability to use his arms was his calling card. If that shoulder doesn’t come around he’s not gonna be anything more than a grinder. He couldn’t get off blocks last year and sometimes looked like he was playing with one arm tied behind his back. He should get a 1 year vet min prove it contract. If he can make a comeback, then he’ll get paid later
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RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 10:48 pm
Greg Papa partner on the game John Lund tweeted Scheter saying the Raiders should keep their money and not spend bing on Shannausey.. 26yrs old and had a bad year last year
Relentless Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 10:50 pm
Papa is an awesome announcer. That is all. Matt was injured the year before. Watch him explode this year.
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 10:51 pm
I dont know.. i’d offer Matt a 2yr 6 million dollar contract
March 14th, 2013 at 11:25 pm
With this roster so far…Coach Dennis Allen better COACH HIS AZZ OFF!
March 14th, 2013 at 11:31 pm
Dakota Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 10:39 pm
Getty Images
The shakeup that resulted in AEG being off the market and CEO Tim Leiweke out of a job doesn’t change the company’s plan to bring the NFL back to L.A.
In fact, there’s a chance Thursday’s events intensify it.
“It’s time for the NFL to get serious and decide what they want to do,” Anschutz told the Los Angeles Daily News. “It doesn’t do any good to sit on the sidelines all the time. Clearly a deal can get done. And by the way, this isn’t a terribly complicated deal to get done.”
He’s right, but the NFL won’t return to L.A. without the right deal. Translation, the deal that allows the NFL to make a killing, even if it leads to the possible death of its partner. Though Anschutz isn’t the type to be steamrollered, snookered, or bamboozled, he’s showing a bit too much of a desire to get this done, which the NFL can and will use against him.
“I’ve been in the deal-making business for almost 50 years now,” Anschutz said. “I’ve made a lot of them.
“I think [Thursday's announcement] is a strong signal that structuring a deal should not be hard. There is nothing magic. We own 100-percent interests of venues around the world and partial interests of ventures around the world. We own 100-percent sports teams and we own partial sports teams. There’s no magic here.”
It’s not about magic. It’s about money. The NFL won’t return to L.A. until it can do the right deal. In other words, the best deal.
Anschutz’s words and actions suggest that he wants to do a deal. Which means that the league will continue to keep its heels dug in until Anschutz agrees to the best deal for the league.
Even if it’s a bad deal for Anschutz.
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This dead deal has been all the buzz down hear in southern California. If anything happens it won’t be until 2015. And the front runners are the Rams. Followed by the Chargers.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:32 pm
ron69 Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 10:52 pm
Brisiel, Branch and Maiava have something in common, they are tuff and i mean tuff guys, Brisiel has the reputation to be the toughest guy in the league.
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First time I heard that one.
Brisiel got tossed around like a rag doll last year.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:33 pm
Free agency is now, not the Draft. In West Virgina!!!
Are you out of your mind???
This type of thinking will have Al Davis rolling over is his grave!
This plan of action is telling us! Do not expect a competitive from the Raiders team, in this division, for the next 4 years.
This team needs a new GM for me to be a Raider fan any time in the no to distant future. this organization is done,done,done,done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 14th, 2013 at 11:34 pm
I would rather see Raiders take Center Schwenke from Cal in Round 2 if they can get a 2nd rounder.
Move Wiz back to LG. Nix and Brisiel battle at RG and Bergstrom hopefully can hold it down at RT.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:36 pm
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 10:48 pm
Greg Papa partner on the game John Lund tweeted Scheter saying the Raiders should keep their money and not spend bing on Shannausey.. 26yrs old and had a bad year last year
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John Lund’s Tweets?
Sorry bro, but this is another opinion I could give two sh!ts about. If John Lund started commenting on this blog I don’t think he would crack the top 20 in terms of commentors who know football or the Raiders.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:42 pm
I’m going to really enjoy watching Streater & Moore burn Sean Smith, when we beat them 32-0.
Just read he chose Kansas City over the Raiders, must’ve been similar contracts.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:45 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:17 pm
Chris in NY Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 3:14 pm
Another brilliant Tom Cable move by the way. Moving BC to guard. Veldheer to center. Seabass to RB.
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Can’t overlook his best move though, moving Greg Knapp away from the headset and Clip Board.
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Wonder if a guy like Trent Cole becomes available now that Philly has switched to a 3-4? Doubt he can play OLB.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:48 pm
Priesttj12 Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 9:50 pm
You guys want a players for teh price of a happy meal. Join the real world these guys get bigtime $$ average players can make $5million a year. A great player is going to start @ 12-15 mill a year. A starting talented 3tech for $6 a year is a bargain..period
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Exactly.
Bryant is a really good, young, versatile defensive lineman with a lot of upside. I said prior to free agency he would command 5 years at about $30 mil. He went for slightly more than that (5 yrs/$35) but some of that could be backloaded as well where he only ever sees it if he lives up to potential.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:52 pm
I hope we draft Star L. out of Utah. If he gets cleared to play then just look at the tape. Imagine if we got Dumerville in FA, (probably a long shot, granted)and then drafted Star. We could really be on to something defensively. RDE:Elvis, NT:Star, UT:Houston, LDE:Hunter? Shaunessy?
LDE would have to be figured out. But it would be the start of a very fearsome 4-3 d-line,with the versatility to switch to a 3-4 at anytime with Star’s ability to man the middle. DA said he wanted to aqiure the “personnel to be able to play defense the way we wanna be able to play defense.” He also says he wants to be multiple in his defensive scheme. To me, Star is the perfect fit.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:53 pm
uhh so since errbody sleep.. i wanna post 1 ogf my new original poems.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:54 pm
i hope the residential raider blog rapper doesnt get mad tho .
March 14th, 2013 at 11:54 pm
small minded women attracted 2 small minded boys that sag pants wit tattoos on they hands , label it swag but if whats real is distorted how will history report it when our children are old enuff 2 sign lebron`s rocking chair & google when lil wayne had hair ,laugh & stare at sum old dude still wearin true religion & debate if its fact or fiction that caucasians used 2 be the majority & homos were actually a minority , stop by walmart & buy weed & vote for a woman as the new presidential authority, is tomorrow a privilege or a burden how much will it hurt him if i tell my father how i really feel & if i still love HER am i crazy is the passion inside me too lazy to attach to the next lonely yet lovely soul that wonders if shes too old for a man to adore her in this life is she good enough to be a mans wife ?
March 14th, 2013 at 11:55 pm
so … it was great huh ?
March 14th, 2013 at 11:56 pm
anyway heres a story that calbert cheaney worte about mike jordan.. & i think it captures part of what greatness is . dmac listen …..
March 14th, 2013 at 11:56 pm
I’d like to see Shaughnessy return. It does depend a lot on if there is a lingering medical issue or not. If not, he’s probably worth 2 at $7.5 mil.
Looks like we’re going to a 3-4. I think he’d be pretty solid as a 3-4 DE.
Shaughnessy-Bilukidi/Sims-Houston
Burris-Maiava-Conner-Dion Jordan
That could actually be a decent front 7. I guess we’ll see though.
Looks like Reggie wants to make all 53 “his own guys” so I wouldn’t be shocked if Houston gets traded for a 3rd rounder. The fact he’s only making around $1 mil may save him. Reggie will let him walk in free agency next year.
March 15th, 2013 at 12:01 am
so it was a game in washington. bulls against the bullets. & calbert cheaney was guarding jordan. jordan already had 38 in the 3rd quarter. so after jordan dunked cheaney asked him ” hey , my nigga , do u ever get tired?” cheaney said jordan jus smirked at him. fast forward into overtime – jordan hits a buzzer beating fadeaway & as his teammates celebrate , jordan runs over to cheaney and says ” AYE, my nigga, i sure am tired!”
March 15th, 2013 at 12:03 am
shaugnessy may be returning to form. 2 years of injuries and crappy play have brought this uber talented d end back down. but look to the cowboys to talk to matt
March 15th, 2013 at 12:06 am
& has streater ever burned any1? other than his freshman girlfriend ?
March 15th, 2013 at 12:08 am
If we don’t take Star, I say try to move back a few spots and take Chance Warmack. We might find a trade partner if someone,(Cards, Bills), want to come up and get Geno.(If Reggie takes Geno, fire him on the spot!) The two best players in this draft in my opinion are Chance and Star, and I’m thinking Reggie might feel the same way. I remember an interview with him a while back where he said something like, “if you wanna win you gotta be able to knock the other guy off the ball.” (not sure exactly what he said, he was mumbling),but if he hasn’t forgotten this obvious fact of football, I think the pick will be/should be one of those two.
March 15th, 2013 at 12:08 am
Idk Chris I think Houston is a Reggie guy.
I think we are seeing signs of us moving to the 3-4.
March 15th, 2013 at 12:10 am
I’ve played ball with the ankle injury Briesel had. $#it hurt I can tell you that.
March 15th, 2013 at 12:12 am
the blog is gonna lose it if we draft geno. i raiders run 3-4 why not go after urlacher tho
March 15th, 2013 at 12:18 am
Surgery fixed that ankle right as rain tho. Forget the name of the procedure….bronson or something.
Breisel is old school Raider tough guy and the whiner biatches I here want to crucify the MAN.
F’d up…
March 15th, 2013 at 12:21 am
I could definitely see Reggie taking Geno.
I could also see Reggie overdoing the maple syrup and passing out until day 2.
March 15th, 2013 at 12:24 am
Might have to get a maiava jersey. The H island boys tend to represent better then your typ Decatur douchbag…
March 15th, 2013 at 12:26 am
I just dont see us drafting a qb.
In fact I can’t see us doing anything but trading for more draft picks….
March 15th, 2013 at 12:50 am
The problem is that other teams may see us coming a mile away on a trade and low ball.
March 15th, 2013 at 12:53 am
RaiderRetribution Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:42 pm
I’m going to really enjoy watching Streater & Moore burn Sean Smith, when we beat them 32-0.
Just read he chose Kansas City over the Raiders, must’ve been similar contracts.
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I guess Al Harris is on the Chiefs coaching staff this year and he was with the Dolphins last year with Sean Smith, sounds like he recruited him.
March 15th, 2013 at 12:53 am
I guess a team will have to be desperate. Otherwise this draft class doesn’t seem to give us much leverage at 3 overall.
March 15th, 2013 at 12:55 am
Chris In NY Says:
March 15th, 2013 at 12:21 am
I could definitely see Reggie taking Geno.
I could also see Reggie overdoing the maple syrup and passing out until day 2.
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The Food coma got to Reggie and he just had to take a nap. By the time he woke Sims was the only guy available.
March 15th, 2013 at 1:00 am
Chris In NY Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:56 pm
I’d like to see Shaughnessy return. It does depend a lot on if there is a lingering medical issue or not. If not, he’s probably worth 2 at $7.5 mil.
Looks like we’re going to a 3-4. I think he’d be pretty solid as a 3-4 DE.
Shaughnessy-Bilukidi/Sims-Houston
Burris-Maiava-Conner-Dion Jordan
That could actually be a decent front 7. I guess we’ll see though.
Looks like Reggie wants to make all 53 “his own guys” so I wouldn’t be shocked if Houston gets traded for a 3rd rounder. The fact he’s only making around $1 mil may save him. Reggie will let him walk in free agency next year.
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That would be Reggie’s worst move by far. Once Reggie fills up the roster with 2013 scrubs, the #1 and #2 priority should be signing Veldy and Houston to extensions.
March 15th, 2013 at 1:04 am
The only way I really see us trading back is if picks 1 and 2 are tackles and some team really thinks Philly is going to take the third tackle at 4. Nobody is trading with us to get to Geno.
March 15th, 2013 at 1:07 am
If we end up with Jordan, Warmack, Jones, Milliner, one of the tackles, or Star I will be happy.
March 15th, 2013 at 1:26 am
Don’t remember who posted it first, I can see the Raiders drafting Miliner #3 overall now. He’s the best player available at the position of our greatest need.
March 15th, 2013 at 1:42 am
He’s one of the best players in the draft and we have needs at just about every position. I’d prioritize pass rusher over corner but bpa doesn’t seem like a bad idea by any means.
March 15th, 2013 at 1:45 am
Hopefully we’ll find out if we signed Nick Roach and Dan Conner, hopefully we can get another corner….What a dream it’d be to have CWood and ASO on the same team….
March 15th, 2013 at 1:46 am
What do ya’ll think of marcus Spears coming over and helping us out?
March 15th, 2013 at 2:03 am
I hope Reggie drafts me this year.
March 15th, 2013 at 2:20 am
OklahomaRaider18 Says:
March 15th, 2013 at 1:46 am
What do ya’ll think of marcus Spears coming over and helping us out?
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If we’re moving to a 3-4 it couldn’t hurt as a stopgap option.
March 15th, 2013 at 2:58 am
I’m surprised Brad Jones and Tracy Porter havent been brought in for visits yet, especially with the ties to the coaching staff….Did we ever find out if Matt Slauson ever came for a visit or was it just interest in him? What about Geoff Schwartz? or Kevin Boothe? Eric Winston is still available…
March 15th, 2013 at 4:24 am
I think Elvis Dumervil will have a lot of teams chasing after him once he’s released today..
Still don’t think Reggie can afford to get into a “bidding war” for any players in FA
Perhaps give him a nice signing bonus in exchange for a low 2013 salary?
March 15th, 2013 at 4:27 am
JFB might be on to something
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/15/jets-raiders-among-teams-showing-interest-in-geno-smith/
March 15th, 2013 at 4:29 am
I suspect Kelly & McClain will be released today, then the Raiders will announce the signings of Roach & Newman
March 15th, 2013 at 4:33 am
I wouldn’t be surprised to see RM connections Brad Jones & Johnny Jolly signed, nor would I be surprised to see DA connections DJ Williams & Tracy Porter in Oakland during the course of this week
March 15th, 2013 at 4:37 am
Good morning, Raider Nation!!!!
March 15th, 2013 at 4:43 am
We’re so thin everywhere, any signing would be welcome…Ill be happy if we can just be competitive….No expectations this year….Maybe Denny will surprise us….
March 15th, 2013 at 4:45 am
Who said that we’d be cutting people today????
March 15th, 2013 at 4:55 am
oklahomaRaider18 Says:
March 15th, 2013 at 4:45 am
Who said that we’d be cutting people today????
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I think maybe we should just cut one.
March 15th, 2013 at 4:57 am
Fart In An Elevator Says:
March 15th, 2013 at 4:55 am
oklahomaRaider18 Says:
March 15th, 2013 at 4:45 am
Who said that we’d be cutting people today????
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I think maybe we should just cut one.
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“Cut one.” You’re such a comedian there, Fart!
March 15th, 2013 at 5:00 am
OK, I’m thinking they will be competitive this year. Why I say that is because these guy will be on the cheap side for the most part. They know it, the fans know it, so why not use that psychologically to mold their identity as a band of cast-offs, etc. and play like you’ve nothing to lose.
March 15th, 2013 at 5:01 am
OK-OK18
March 15th, 2013 at 5:01 am
*OK=OK18
March 15th, 2013 at 5:15 am
911.rediaR Says:
March 15th, 2013 at 1:00 am
Chris In NY Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:56 pm
I’d like to see Shaughnessy return. It does depend a lot on if there is a lingering medical issue or not. If not, he’s probably worth 2 at $7.5 mil.
Looks like we’re going to a 3-4. I think he’d be pretty solid as a 3-4 DE.
Shaughnessy-Bilukidi/Sims-Houston
Burris-Maiava-Conner-Dion Jordan
That could actually be a decent front 7. I guess we’ll see though.
Looks like Reggie wants to make all 53 “his own guys” so I wouldn’t be shocked if Houston gets traded for a 3rd rounder. The fact he’s only making around $1 mil may save him. Reggie will let him walk in free agency next year.
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That would be Reggie’s worst move by far. Once Reggie fills up the roster with 2013 scrubs, the #1 and #2 priority should be signing Veldy and Houston to extensions.
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Fully expect him to resign Veldheer and Houston, unless of course some idiot GM from another team decides to give them each 10 million per year or something ridiculous like that. He won’t overpay, but he will have a lot more flexibility next year.
Everybody’s panicking right now because they see him letting Bryant and Wheeler go, but this is not going to be his method of doing business for long. He’s positioning himself now to be able to resign the guys he wants to keep in the future.
March 15th, 2013 at 5:20 am
903.JLofty Says:
March 15th, 2013 at 12:18 am
Surgery fixed that ankle right as rain tho. Forget the name of the procedure….bronson or something.
Breisel is old school Raider tough guy and the whiner biatches I here want to crucify the MAN.
F’d up…
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Dude played in a playoff game with Houston with a hairline fracture in his leg, too. I agree; he’s a warrior. I think we’re looking a a different player this year, and hopefully it will shut some people up about him.
March 15th, 2013 at 5:23 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/15/raiders-bring-in-nick-roach-from-bears/
It’s a done deal, apparently.
We can read Cork’s post about it tomorrow or the next day, lol.
March 15th, 2013 at 5:30 am
Ed, thanks for the head’s up re: Roach.
March 15th, 2013 at 5:31 am
I like the signing of Roach. Can’t be considered less than a huge upgrade over McJogger.
March 15th, 2013 at 5:37 am
There wasn’t much of a writeup on him on PFT, but the BSPN article gives some background on the guy.
Undrafted FA out of Northwestern, made the Chargers from their practice squd, then went on to start for the Bears as their strong side LB. Filled in for Urlacher at MLB when he was hurt and did a really good job.
I know people are crucifying Reggie in here for “dumpster diving”, but there have been more than a few comments from the national football press that he’s making some really smart moves (including not giving stupid money top Wheeler and Bryant). I’m inclined to agree, and I think there are more to come.
March 15th, 2013 at 5:38 am
With the moves the Broncos made, it’s hard to trade blows that kind of firepower in free agency. Al used to carry a bazooka into free agency. But now Elway is packing the heat. Realistically, we are not in their league and I don’t see us competing with them.
I’ve been a big fan of Carson, and still would like him to come back at a reduced salary. But if that’s not happening, it’s time to consider Geno. I’m not a fan, maybe never will be. But with Geno, at least we have a punchers chance that we might luck into a franchise QB. Look at Kaepernick and look at Russell Wilson that went in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. Nobody cares what their draft status is anymore. They are considered ‘franchise’ QB’s. Geno could be our ‘franchise’ QB and we are desperate to get better.
From a value standpoint, he’s the biggest impact guy on the draft board. We really have to consider him.
March 15th, 2013 at 5:43 am
The local pundits in Tampa also talk a lot of Miami football, they all are saying that Miami way overspent on it’s new LB’s. Ellerbee and Wheeler were overpaid is the consensus and Dansby was a previous LB free agent mistake by the Dolphins that they are still paying for.
No one is very impressed or happy at Wheeler’s deal.
March 15th, 2013 at 5:44 am
Love that we signed Roach. Hope it’s more than a one year deal. Need to get some secondary help, DL help, and start trading back and getting more picks. Cut Palmer, let Pryor and Young run the show and if they don’t succeed draft our QB of the future in the 1st next year. I’m liking the character guys Reggie is going with – just hope we have enough athletic ability as well now.
March 15th, 2013 at 5:44 am
938. Ed, I agree totally with the sentiment in your last paragraph. A bunch of solid, hard-working players.
March 15th, 2013 at 5:47 am
Morning, Guest.
Question for you. If we let Palmer go and get Geno in the draft, what do we do with Pryor? Keep or let go? Certainly, he’d be bummed that the new guy will perhaps be the starter? Also, what if VY enters the picture?
March 15th, 2013 at 5:47 am
939.guest123 Says:
March 15th, 2013 at 5:38 am
With the moves the Broncos made, it’s hard to trade blows that kind of firepower in free agency. Al used to carry a bazooka into free agency. But now Elway is packing the heat. Realistically, we are not in their league and I don’t see us competing with them.
I’ve been a big fan of Carson, and still would like him to come back at a reduced salary. But if that’s not happening, it’s time to consider Geno. I’m not a fan, maybe never will be. But with Geno, at least we have a punchers chance that we might luck into a franchise QB. Look at Kaepernick and look at Russell Wilson that went in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. Nobody cares what their draft status is anymore. They are considered ‘franchise’ QB’s. Geno could be our ‘franchise’ QB and we are desperate to get better.
From a value standpoint, he’s the biggest impact guy on the draft board. We really have to consider him.
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Jacksonville showing interest worries me a little; not because I think they’d take him and keep him, but because they could take him and trade him to someone that’s worried that we WILL take him.
It would be interesting to see what Reggie would do if someone called him wanting to move up for Smith.
March 15th, 2013 at 5:50 am
Scourge Says:
March 15th, 2013 at 5:47 am
Morning, Guest.
Question for you. If we let Palmer go and get Geno in the draft, what do we do with Pryor?
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It would be worth seeing us trade him to Philly so we could watch the nuclear meltdown in here, lol.
It would be epic.
March 15th, 2013 at 5:51 am
Lots of defensive players being added to the mix, as well as being looked at.
We might just go heavy on offense in the draft.
March 15th, 2013 at 5:53 am
Good morning, Raider Nation…
This is your host, Scourge.
This morning our first guest, Guest123, will tell what he thinks will happen……
March 15th, 2013 at 5:55 am
Question for you. If we let Palmer go and get Geno in the draft, what do we do with Pryor? Keep or let go? Certainly, he’d be bummed that the new guy will perhaps be the starter? Also, what if VY enters the picture?
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@ scourge:
We develop both Geno and Pryor and let the best man win the job in camp. Of course, everyone will assume that Geno is the starting QB. But let him earn it and he will be a better player because of the competition. Tell Pryor not to give up or pack it in. Tell him he’s got the chance to be like Russell Wilson and that nothing is a given, even with the #3 overall draft pick and annointed franchise savior looking at the field across from him.
I don’t think Pryor will be bummed at all. I think the move would signal the end of Carson Palmer and that’s a bigger obstacle to his starting than Geno at this point in his career.
Also, I don’t want headcase crybabies like VY. There’s no upside left in his career.
March 15th, 2013 at 5:55 am
I think Miami got a player in Ellerbe.
May he have got overpaid? Most of all these guys in the first few days in FA do.
The first few days of FA is like shopping at the Ferrari dealershp, on the Las Vegas strip.
Your not even getting a good Ferrari price, your just paying for the right to show off.
March 15th, 2013 at 5:56 am
edward teach Says:
March 15th, 2013 at 5:50 am
It would be worth seeing us trade him to Philly so we could watch the nuclear meltdown in here, lol.
It would be epic.
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Ed, you’re right on that! Also, you’re incorrigible!
March 15th, 2013 at 5:57 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 15th, 2013 at 4:29 am
I suspect Kelly & McClain will be released today, then the Raiders will announce the signings of Roach & Newman
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We only get to use the June 1st designation on 2 players, and we already used 1 on Michael Huff. If they do have to cut Carson then they are going to want to use that designation on him as well. They aren’t going to ‘reward’ Slo by releasing him into the market when teams are trying to fill out rosters and spend money.
March 15th, 2013 at 5:58 am
Morning nation.
Really starting to like these moves, hungry guys with something to prove, Reggie knows what he is doing. And for the mrons out there who think he is here to destroy the team all of you go kick rocks and root for the jaguars.
March 15th, 2013 at 5:59 am
guest, that makes sense. I don’t think we should bring in VY. I believe it’s either Palmer/Pryor or Geno/Pryor, especially if CP3’s salary is more Raider-friendly.
March 15th, 2013 at 5:59 am
950.Scourge Says:
March 15th, 2013 at 5:56 am
edward teach Says:
March 15th, 2013 at 5:50 am
It would be worth seeing us trade him to Philly so we could watch the nuclear meltdown in here, lol.
It would be epic.
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Ed, you’re right on that! Also, you’re incorrigible!
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The Golden Haired Hero debate would pale in comparison.
Priest would have to be hospitalized. Or have a restraining order placed on him by Raider HQ.
March 15th, 2013 at 5:59 am
We got Nick Roach’!!!
March 15th, 2013 at 5:59 am
I still would like to trade down add more picks. Now all the analysts are talking geno top 10, Reggie please trade down get picks!
March 15th, 2013 at 6:00 am
I got nothing personal against Pryor. But after seeing Jamarcus Russell throw all those screwballs in the dirt, I’m a little shy about trusting another project QB with questionable accuracy. He honestly doesn’t look like an NFL QB to me and never did.
I’m not rooting against him either. I want to see him ‘look the part’. I don’t root against anyone wearing silver and black. But I don’t see him beating Geno out for day one starter if we draft Geno.
March 15th, 2013 at 6:01 am
Seattle and Denver have been downright stealing good players this week. If I had to pick today I would have the Donkeys and the Hawks in the Super Bowl. Seattle, on paper of course, looks to be about the best complete football team I have ever seen.
March 15th, 2013 at 6:01 am
Also, I don’t want headcase crybabies like VY.
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What kind of fool goes on 60 minutes and says “can’t nobody tell me nothing”?
A fool that takes a 1.8 million loan at 20% during the lockout, to throw a 300K birthday party for himself, then goes bankrupt.
I would like to bring VY in………when he is 45 years old and he can talk to the rookies about not being a grade A buffoon.
March 15th, 2013 at 6:02 am
I don’t see The Legend beating out Jared Veldheer for opening day starter!
March 15th, 2013 at 6:03 am
Ellerbe was a UDFA that the Ravens got off the scrap heap. They also lost Cory Williams to the Eagles who the Ravens picked up off the practice squad.
Everyone is seriously overvaluing the Ravens players. It’s the system and the coaching and the mix with other vets that make them really good.
March 15th, 2013 at 6:03 am
^ that was obviously a joke, just in case Mistic or his alter ego Debo come in to point to everyone how its proof positive that I am Hitler reincarnated…
March 15th, 2013 at 6:04 am
Love roach in the middle excellent move. I still think defense all the way in this years draft.
March 15th, 2013 at 6:04 am
957.guest123 Says:
March 15th, 2013 at 6:00 am
I got nothing personal against Pryor. But after seeing Jamarcus Russell throw all those screwballs in the dirt, I’m a little shy about trusting another project QB with questionable accuracy. He honestly doesn’t look like an NFL QB to me and never did.
I’m not rooting against him either. I want to see him ‘look the part’. I don’t root against anyone wearing silver and black. But I don’t see him beating Geno out for day one starter if we draft Geno.
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My sentiments exactly.
March 15th, 2013 at 6:05 am
Ellerbe started 14 games in 4 years, he was drastically overvalued and overpaid. Travis Goethel could look like a stud surrounded by Suggs, Lewis and Kruger with Haloti Ngata in front of him.
March 15th, 2013 at 6:06 am
Did we actually sign Roach? Haven’t seen anything yet.
March 15th, 2013 at 6:06 am
Seattle got edge rusher Michael Bennett fresh off a 9 sack season for a 1 year $5 million deal. That is criminal.
Why can’t Reggie get in some of that kind of action?
March 15th, 2013 at 6:07 am
bcz24 Says:
March 15th, 2013 at 6:05 am
Ellerbe started 14 games in 4 years, he was drastically overvalued and overpaid. Travis Goethel could look like a stud surrounded by Suggs, Lewis and Kruger with Haloti Ngata in front of him.
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Very much agree.
March 15th, 2013 at 6:08 am
966.bcz24 Says:
March 15th, 2013 at 6:06 am
Did we actually sign Roach? Haven’t seen anything yet.
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Both PFT and BSPN are reporting it from he Chicago Sun-Times.
March 15th, 2013 at 6:09 am
Why can’t Reggie get in some of that kind of action?
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You think anyone with options is going to take that deal with us?
Bennett thought he was worth more, didn’t like his offers, so went on a one year deal where he would get the most face time and then hit the market again next year.
March 15th, 2013 at 6:10 am
guest123 Says:
March 15th, 2013 at 6:06 am
Seattle got edge rusher Michael Bennett fresh off a 9 sack season for a 1 year $5 million deal. That is criminal.
Why can’t Reggie get in some of that kind of action?
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Truthfully, if I’m an NFL free agent I look at Seattle and see a team primed for a Super Bowl run. I’ll take $5 mill to get a Lombardi and test the FA waters again next year. I won’t take a $5 mill 1 year deal for a rebuilding project.
March 15th, 2013 at 6:10 am
Anybuddy here from P-man about the state of his llama mama?
March 15th, 2013 at 6:12 am
Anyone ever consider it might be Palmer/Smith, not Pryor/Smith?
March 15th, 2013 at 6:12 am
Its on PFT
March 15th, 2013 at 6:15 am
I think any of the options are open. If they can get anything for Pryor via trade that could happen. I think Palmer/Smith puts us in a predicament because they aren’t really suited to the same offense, however I think Geno is probably more suited to a Palmer style than TP is. Nothing is set in stone at this point, but in todays NFL, if you take a guy #3 overall it’s to be a starter from day 1, not to languish on the bench.
March 15th, 2013 at 6:18 am
lol hungry guys…no wonder reggie took them to ihop….wait till they try and keep up with actual talent…
March 15th, 2013 at 6:19 am
I guess it seems more likely they’re looking to cut/trade Palmer if you add 2 and 2 in regard to them wanting to work out Vince Young, and them thinking of drafting Geno Smith. Both mobile QBs who could back-up in the same system — if they were installing a system around the talents of a mobile strong-armed QB.
March 15th, 2013 at 6:19 am
973.GG Says:
March 15th, 2013 at 6:12 am
Anyone ever consider it might be Palmer/Smith, not Pryor/Smith?
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In my opinion, if we take Geno Smith then Pryor is gone. Reggie saw how well it worked to have Rogers sit behind Favre and I think he would do the same with Geno and Palmer.
The upside is that Palmer wouldn’t have to be escorted from the building when Geno was ready, lol. Rogers probably could have played earlier but Favre wouldn’t leave, and being at that time a folk hero in GB, he knew he had the Packers by the balls and could play out his drama for as long as he liked. They still called for Thompson’s head when he finally forced the old drama queen to go.
March 15th, 2013 at 6:21 am
Except they didn’t draft Rogers until the mid 20s, not at 3
March 15th, 2013 at 6:23 am
it will probably be palmer/smith OR pryor/young………when you put it like that the decision looks alot easier
March 15th, 2013 at 6:26 am
Except they didn’t draft Rogers until the mid 20s, not at 3
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I don’t think it really matters. Flacco was considered a ‘questionable’ late first round pick by some. Rodgers free fall is still a head scratcher. People are still hung up on the Akili Smith’s and Blaine Gabbert type picks at the top of the first round and overthinking. If Geno fell to 20 and was a stud QB, would it be any less a genius move to draft him than at pick #3?
March 15th, 2013 at 6:28 am
979.bcz24 Says:
March 15th, 2013 at 6:21 am
Except they didn’t draft Rogers until the mid 20s, not at 3
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True, which is why it’s a difficult decision. Do you use the third pick in the draft on a kid you’re pretty sure is going to be your QB of the future, let him sit for a year and ignore some pretty gaping holes elsewhere by doing that, or do you go with Palmer for another year and get Pryor ready to take over in 2014?
As I said a little while ago, what Reggie does in the next couple of weeks will tell us all just how he feels about Terrelle Pryor. Responding to a reporter’s
questions with GM-speak is one thing. Actions are quite another.
March 15th, 2013 at 6:28 am
No, but like I just said, you don’t draft a guy at #3 overall to sit on the bench and learn. Whoever we pick there has to be a day 1 starter.
March 15th, 2013 at 6:29 am
edward teach Says:
March 15th, 2013 at 6:19 am
973.GG Says:
March 15th, 2013 at 6:12 am
Anyone ever consider it might be Palmer/Smith, not Pryor/Smith?
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In my opinion, if we take Geno Smith then Pryor is gone. Reggie saw how well it worked to have Rogers sit behind Favre and I think he would do the same with Geno and Palmer.
The upside is that Palmer wouldn’t have to be escorted from the building when Geno was ready, lol. Rogers probably could have played earlier but Favre wouldn’t leave, and being at that time a folk hero in GB, he knew he had the Packers by the balls and could play out his drama for as long as he liked. They still called for Thompson’s head when he finally forced the old drama queen to go.
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It’s possible Reggie is genuinely trying to ‘win now’ still. The cuts he’s making actual good moves clearing the roster of over-valued under-performing players, and replacing them with players who aren’t cashing checks.
Doing the best he can ‘the packer way’, and the reason he’s constantly filling the CB position with old vets is because the system Allen/Tarver want to run (zone) requires more cerebral wily CBs. Until he can draft and develop others to replace them.
So in that train of thought…i guess it’s possible Reggie knows Palmer gives him the best bet to win games, so seasoned with football experience, understands concepts etc that take years to acquire.
So like you said…Smith ‘his rodgers’ groomed for 2014/15.
It’s possible. I’m a big Pryor fan tho, so I’d be upset if we traded him — especially if he went on and became a very good player elsewhere.
March 15th, 2013 at 6:29 am
JFB, here’s a Vegas update, just in case you didn’t know!
Assemblyman Joe Hogan (D) is working with a Las Vegas doctor who has been pushing the issue. Dr. Stephen Frye, who calls himself Dr. Pot, has been pushing marijuana legalization.
Voters in two states, Colorado and Washington, decriminalized marijuana possession in November. Lawmakers in Oregon, Hawaii and New Mexico are considering pot legalization measures.
Nevada already allows for medical marijuana use. But patients who have a medical marijuana card have no legal way to obtain it. Sen. Tick Segerblom, D-Las Vegas, has sponsored legislation to create a dispensary system in Nevada!!!!
It looks like you guys might be getting it too!
March 15th, 2013 at 6:36 am
Why would WE need a day 1 starter? Grooming a franchise qb wouldnt hurt a bit..
March 15th, 2013 at 6:36 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Was in IT hell for a moment…couldn’t even get to this page!
March 15th, 2013 at 6:38 am
NFL Network’s Akbar Gbaja-Biamila says the 49ers are in “serious discussions” with both free agent CB Nnamdi Asomugha and free agent S Charles Woodson.
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Go ahead…get our sloppy seconds!!!
It seems like the team across the Bay is making a serious push this off season!
March 15th, 2013 at 6:38 am
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Nick Roach | OLB Previous Team: Chicago Exp: 6 years
Analysis: Roach has agreed to terms with the Raiders, ESPN Chicago reported Friday. The contract is believed to be for 3-4 years, at $3-$4 million per year.
March 15th, 2013 at 6:41 am
If you draft Geno, you got to move Palmer for whatever and play the rookie.
He will get better as the season goes along and so will the team.
And if we can somehow catch a few breaks the first half or so of the season, get a bounce here or there and hover around .500, we will have a fairly exciting end of the season.
And a future.
March 15th, 2013 at 6:41 am
I AM WITH BCZ ON THIS ONE IF THERE IS NO TRADE…THERE WILL BE MOVEMENT WITH THE 3RD OVERALL PICK B4 ITS ALL OVER I THINK..
March 15th, 2013 at 6:42 am
It’s confirmed, Nick Roach is a Raider!
March 15th, 2013 at 6:42 am
We will be trading down and gathering as many picks as possible.
No doubt about it!
March 15th, 2013 at 6:44 am
989.radraider Says:
March 15th, 2013 at 6:38 am
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Nick Roach | OLB Previous Team: Chicago Exp: 6 years
Analysis: Roach has agreed to terms with the Raiders, ESPN Chicago reported Friday. The contract is believed to be for 3-4 years, at $3-$4 million per year.
Just seen that! Well, welcome to the Nation Mr. Roach!
March 15th, 2013 at 6:45 am
303Raider Says:
March 15th, 2013 at 6:42 am
We will be trading down and gathering as many picks as possible.
No doubt about it!
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No doubt? I wouldn’t say that. We have to find a willing trade partner.
March 15th, 2013 at 6:46 am
If we draft Geno, everyone outside of Raiders HQ will assume he will be the day 1 starter. But it’s not earth shattering or ground breaking to make the rookie QB hold a clipboard for a half a season or so. Pryor will get his chance to be the day one starter and audition for a starting role elsewhere if he performs well.
March 15th, 2013 at 6:47 am
GOOD MORNING NATION !!
and my GreenParty brothers !!
March 15th, 2013 at 6:48 am
Looks more and more like a 3/4 d. Multiple at least..
March 15th, 2013 at 6:48 am
What’s up Mike?
new jersey for you…
Roach!
March 15th, 2013 at 6:48 am
If Reggie traded Palmer and McFadden for 2nds. He wouldn’t need to trade down.
I’d say Reggie would like to draft #3 and acquire a couple 2nds/3rds thru trading players on roster he particularly doesn’t want to keep.
Raiders are high on Lacey btw.
March 15th, 2013 at 6:49 am
Jacksonville sent every one of the front office personnel and coaching staff to Geno’s pro day. You got to think they are very seriously considering him.
March 15th, 2013 at 6:49 am
You know, I always wondered what it would be like having Asomugha and Woodson on the field together. Not sure I would like seeing that across the Bay, but heck, they are the older versions of what they used to be!
March 15th, 2013 at 6:49 am
Let’s hope Roach gets the number 55
March 15th, 2013 at 6:50 am
morning Hwnrdr..
lol lol.. he11 yeah.. smokin a roach
while wearing a Roach jersey !!
welcome to the NATION Papa Roach !!
March 15th, 2013 at 6:51 am
Goodson may sign with Jets, I wonder who are backup RB will be.
March 15th, 2013 at 6:51 am
If Reggie could somehow move away from the 1st round entirely and end up with a 1st and 2nd round next year along with 2 maybe 3 2nd rounders this year…that would be awesome!!
Then he could still grab a QB (EJ Manuel) and fill in a few roster (starter) positions!!
March 15th, 2013 at 6:51 am
Raiders are high on Lacey btw.
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They SHOULD BE……..Lacey is a BAD Mu’FkkA
March 15th, 2013 at 6:52 am
986.Marks hair Says:
March 15th, 2013 at 6:36 am
Why would WE need a day 1 starter? Grooming a franchise qb wouldnt hurt a bit..
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Say what you want about Carson Palmer as a player (not you specifically, just a figure of speech), but the man is a true professional. He would be a tremendous asset for Geno Smith should Smith come here.
Learn on the fly as a rookie or sit for a year and learn the ropes from a veteran like Palmer? No brainer.
The obvious quandary is whether you’re willing to spend he third pick in the draft to do that when you have so many other holes.
As I said, we’ll know the truth about how Pryor is viewed by the org in a very short amount of time.
March 15th, 2013 at 6:52 am
1004.R8ER MIKE Says:
March 15th, 2013 at 6:50 am
morning Hwnrdr..
lol lol.. he11 yeah.. smokin a roach
while wearing a Roach jersey !!
welcome to the NATION Papa Roach !!
LOL…”Cut my life into pieces, this is my last resort!”
March 15th, 2013 at 6:52 am
Goodson may sign with Jets, I wonder who are backup RB will be.
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backup RB’s are available at the dollar store. in a big plastic tub.
March 15th, 2013 at 6:53 am
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
March 15th, 2013 at 6:51 am
Goodson may sign with Jets, I wonder who are backup RB will be.
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could pair up DMAC with his old college buddy Felix Jones.
March 15th, 2013 at 6:54 am
Guest123 Says:
March 15th, 2013 at 6:49 am
Let’s hope Roach gets the number 55
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Naw…I’d like to see him wear #42!!
How cool would that be?
Add the zero later!!
March 15th, 2013 at 6:54 am
POST-1006,VERY GOOD POINT..I SAID THIS A MONTH OR SO AGO..
March 15th, 2013 at 6:54 am
Geno would benefit greatly by working under Carson for a year, but the cost is prohibitive. I don’t think we keep Carson if we know we aren’t going to be competitive anyway. It’s either cut or trade him.
March 15th, 2013 at 6:55 am
theghostronin79 Says:
March 15th, 2013 at 6:51 am
Raiders are high on Lacey btw.
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yep. id take lacey over mcfadden. im over dmac. he had his chances.
i gotta think reggie is eyeing either a tackle or defensive end at #3. if he could trade dmac/palmer, he could then draft lacey in the 2nd.
if he cant trade palmer/dmac, hed have to trade down the #3 and could still be eyeing a defensive end or interior lineman in the middle 1st.
March 15th, 2013 at 6:55 am
BTW: Cool name and all, but never really followed the Bears. Was Roach any good?
March 15th, 2013 at 6:55 am
guest123 Says:
March 15th, 2013 at 6:52 am
Goodson may sign with Jets, I wonder who are backup RB will be.
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backup RB’s are available at the dollar store. in a big plastic tub.
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good to know lol
March 15th, 2013 at 6:56 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
March 15th, 2013 at 6:53 am
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
March 15th, 2013 at 6:51 am
Goodson may sign with Jets, I wonder who are backup RB will be.
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could pair up DMAC with his old college buddy Felix Jones.
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interesting
March 15th, 2013 at 6:56 am
i still think reggie likes tyler bray or sean renfree as a qb to develop. not smith or manuel.
March 15th, 2013 at 6:57 am
Hwnrdr Says:
March 15th, 2013 at 6:44 am
989.radraider Says:
March 15th, 2013 at 6:38 am
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Nick Roach | OLB Previous Team: Chicago Exp: 6 years
Analysis: Roach has agreed to terms with the Raiders, ESPN Chicago reported Friday. The contract is believed to be for 3-4 years, at $3-$4 million per year.
Just seen that! Well, welcome to the Nation Mr. Roach!
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At first blush, that seems like a lot for Mr. Roach.
March 15th, 2013 at 6:57 am
could pair up DMAC with his old college buddy Felix Jones.
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lol, between them they would have at any one time one healthy knee, one healthy foot, one healthy groin.
If you could do a Frankenstien mashup you’d have a helluva player!
March 15th, 2013 at 6:58 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
March 15th, 2013 at 6:53 am
Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) Says:
March 15th, 2013 at 6:51 am
Goodson may sign with Jets, I wonder who are backup RB will be.
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could pair up DMAC with his old college buddy Felix Jones.
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We could use a hammer. Brandon Jacobs would be cheap.
March 15th, 2013 at 7:00 am
Brandon Jacobs used to be a sledge, now he’s a ball peen.
March 15th, 2013 at 7:01 am
How about the other one from NY?
March 15th, 2013 at 7:01 am
Bradshaw…?
March 15th, 2013 at 7:03 am
Landry will be long gone unless we get more pix.
March 15th, 2013 at 7:03 am
DJ Johnny Says:
At first blush, that seems like a lot for Mr. Roach.
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I don’t think so. He is a pretty good LB, great tackler (which we haven’t seen a lot of for years). Plays strong side for the most part, but proved he can slip right into MLB when he filled in for Urlacher.
This is a great value signing. Good work, Reggie!
March 15th, 2013 at 7:03 am
1020.DJ Johnny Says:
March 15th, 2013 at 6:57 am
Hwnrdr Says:
March 15th, 2013 at 6:44 am
989.radraider Says:
March 15th, 2013 at 6:38 am
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Nick Roach | OLB Previous Team: Chicago Exp: 6 years
Analysis: Roach has agreed to terms with the Raiders, ESPN Chicago reported Friday. The contract is believed to be for 3-4 years, at $3-$4 million per year.
Just seen that! Well, welcome to the Nation Mr. Roach!
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At first blush, that seems like a lot for Mr. Roach.
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He was a starting linebacker for one of the better defenses in the league, and was able to switch positions and fill in very well for Urlacher when Urlacher got injured. So, he has proven he can play more than one linebacker position very well. He also didn’t cost us much more per year than the Bears were paying him; we just gave him more years.
Not sure how you’d think we overpaid for him. I’m kinda surprised we got him for what we did. Looks like an upgrade over Wheeler and we would have had to pay Wheeler stupid money to stay.
March 15th, 2013 at 7:04 am
Surprised Bradshaw is still available. He had a foot bone issue and it seems to be chronic. Maybe scared off most teams. I wouldn’t be surprised if he retired early.
March 15th, 2013 at 7:06 am
Hwnrdr Says:
March 15th, 2013 at 6:55 am
BTW: Cool name and all, but never really followed the Bears. Was Roach any good?
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It’s a perfect Raider name!
He had over 40 tackles in the last four games last year at MLB! This guy is a hawk, with sure tackling skills. An excellent replacement for Rolando.
March 15th, 2013 at 7:07 am
Roach PFF -2.5 last season… Looks like he had some pretty good games against crap opponents (Ari, Jax, StL, Ten) Struggled vs Ind, Hou, Min.
Didn’t have real high ratings nor very low his whole career.
This is a nice pickup. Nothing great. Not horrible. Average LB… we need depth at LB! Good job Reggie.
March 15th, 2013 at 7:10 am
I like roach. I like sims as a space eater.. nice little moves so far.
March 15th, 2013 at 7:11 am
Sales for Oakland Raiders Roach jerseys will explode by this afternoon. If he is any good we can call the middle of the defense the Roach motel.
March 15th, 2013 at 7:11 am
Roach. Takes me back to the early 70’s. Good Raider name.
March 15th, 2013 at 7:14 am
1030.RaidingTexas Says:
March 15th, 2013 at 7:06 am
Hwnrdr Says:
March 15th, 2013 at 6:55 am
BTW: Cool name and all, but never really followed the Bears. Was Roach any good?
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It’s a perfect Raider name!
He had over 40 tackles in the last four games last year at MLB! This guy is a hawk, with sure tackling skills. An excellent replacement for Rolando.
Cool!
March 15th, 2013 at 7:15 am
RaidingTexas Says:
March 15th, 2013 at 7:06 am
Hwnrdr Says:
March 15th, 2013 at 6:55 am
BTW: Cool name and all, but never really followed the Bears. Was Roach any good?
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It’s a perfect Raider name!
He had over 40 tackles in the last four games last year at MLB! This guy is a hawk, with sure tackling skills. An excellent replacement for Rolando.
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Upgrade over McClain, sure. We still need to replace Wheeler though, and he’s not even close to that. At least not so far in his career.
March 15th, 2013 at 7:22 am
Stop the panic and stop this Dumpster Diving wailing. Nick Roach is a starting LB from the Bears (started 29 of 32 games the last 2 years). He can play MLB and filled in well for Urlacher when Brian was injured. 6 teams were interested in him, Raiders got him for a reasonable $3-4Mil. Bears wanted to keep him but couldn’t because of their salary cap issues.
March 15th, 2013 at 8:10 am
GIVE REG TIME, THINK ABOUT 2014 – WE WON’T HAVE 32 MIL IN DEAD MONEY + THINK ABOUT HOW MANY COMPENSATORY PICKS WE WILL RECEIVE FOR ALL THE PLAYERS WE LOST AND WILL CONTINUE TO LOSE. NEXT YEAR WILL BE THE BEGINNING OF THE DYNASTY.