Tough-guy Maiava happy to be a Raider
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, March 14th, 2013 at 10:45 am in Oakland Raiders.
The signing of Kaluka Maiava comes straight out of the Reggie McKenzie-Dennis Allen handbook when it comes to personnel.
For better or worse, Maiava, at a shade under 6-foot tall, would have never got a sniff from the Al Davis Raiders based on his physical profile.
McKenzie and Allen want football players first and foremost. Guys who are big on preparation and short on drama. Maiava qualifies.
“I’m a hard-nosed guy, man. I come to work every day and I lead by example,” Maiava said on a brief conference call before departing the Raiders facility. “I’m not the rah-rah guy giving the speeches and stuff. I lead by example and I come to work every day and I’ll play hard. I’ll go to war with anybody and I’m sure my teammates will appreciate that. I’m a tough guy and I pride myself on being one of the tougher players, and I’m here to work.”
Born in Honolulu, Maiava grew up with a steady diet of watching the Raiders and 49ers on television. The Raiders were the first team to contact him for a visit. ESPN reported Maiava signed a three-year, $6 million contract.
“When my agent said the Raiders were interested, my ears definitely perked up,” Maiava said.
Maiava said a specific role wasn’t discussed. He played primarily in a 3-4 defense in Cleveland and the Raiders were predominantly a 4-3 team last season. Allen has said repeatedly scheme will be determined by the roster, and the Raiders are still in the early stages of building defensive personnel.
“I’m just we got the business part out of the way and now when we come back we can work on actual football,” Maiava said. “I’ll play anything. Whatever the coaches need me to do, whatever it takes to win, I’ll play whatever spot they need me at.”
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March 14th, 2013 at 10:46 am
Tough guy.. hooray
March 14th, 2013 at 10:46 am
Cheap guy. Keep em coming reg
March 14th, 2013 at 10:47 am
This is what Reggie’s building: a team of warriors who will fight for all 60 minutes (as opposed to check-cashers like Seymour, Kelly, McChump, etc).
March 14th, 2013 at 10:47 am
good signing.
March 14th, 2013 at 10:47 am
i got 5 on it!
March 14th, 2013 at 10:47 am
Character guys that Reggie is targeting! Tough physical specimen that love to play football!
March 14th, 2013 at 10:48 am
1357.edward teach Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 10:39 am
1328.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 10:13 am
edward teach Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 10:09 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 9:49 am
buffalo fans drooling for DHB
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Yeah, they don’t get to watch too many Raider games on the East Coast.
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i think they respect his 4.2 speed and his explosive run after the catch skill.
I have long contended he was a guy that need to be fed and fed early in games.
DHB was severely under utilized by palmer, and knapps wco was a piss poor fit
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I was joking, which I’m sure you know since you failed to paste the rest of my comment.
DHB was ok, but not worth what we were going to have to pay him this year. I will reiterate the part of my comment that you so conveniently left out, and that is that it may actually be good for him to leave Oakland. In my opinion he felt too much pressure to live up to his draft status here and it affected his game. A new team gives him a new lease on life, and he can relax and just play.
March 14th, 2013 at 10:48 am
DMAC Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 10:45 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
Green Party is in da building!!!!!!
March 14th, 2013 at 10:48 am
5 on it?
March 14th, 2013 at 10:49 am
12.DMAC Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 10:45 am
Morning/afternoon peoples!
Green Party is in da building!!!!!!
DMAC!!!!
March 14th, 2013 at 10:49 am
not quite the michael bush type who didn’t want to play fullback
March 14th, 2013 at 10:49 am
Marks hair Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 10:48 am
5 on it?
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Yeah
I’ll but the raw wraps, zigzags, and blunts
You provide the trees
lol
March 14th, 2013 at 10:49 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 10:48 am
whats up MrPrez ??
March 14th, 2013 at 10:49 am
9.Marks hair Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 10:48 am
5 on it?
Come on, you know that one…
I got 5 on it, messing with that endo weed!
March 14th, 2013 at 10:49 am
What up Hwnrdr
I like what Reg is doing
What u think?
March 14th, 2013 at 10:50 am
*buy
March 14th, 2013 at 10:50 am
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March 14th, 2013 at 10:51 am
DMAC Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 10:49 am
Marks hair Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 10:48 am
5 on it?
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Yeah
I’ll but the raw wraps, zigzags, and blunts
You provide the trees
lol
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lol… i have smoked so much and so long the zigzag guys has a tattoo of me on his arm !! lol lol
March 14th, 2013 at 10:51 am
don’t think he’s lying, those hawaiians love them some raiders
March 14th, 2013 at 10:51 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 10:43 am
The Big Banana Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 10:14 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 10:09 am
The Big Banana Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 10:07 am
1308 – clutch or not, one thing that can’t be denied is Palmer completed more passes for more yards to DHB than Soup in Hue’s offense.
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only because he played more games than jc did in 11
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Not true. Go ahead and average it out. Palmer completed more passes for more yards on average per game than Soup.
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speculative
jc only completed 5 games in 11
palmer completed 9
we dont know if the production and targets would have increased or decreased
projected totals for jc vs actual totals for palmer is not a fair way to view it
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Lol. If we can’t go by what actually happened, then what can we go on? The whole thing is speculative then, so why even bring it up in the first place?
March 14th, 2013 at 10:51 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 10:49 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 10:48 am
whats up MrPrez ??
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ODB is in da house!!!!
March 14th, 2013 at 10:52 am
no I was trying to get number 5 i ended up with 9 on it:(
March 14th, 2013 at 10:53 am
Sir RaiderDuck, OMS Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 10:47 am
This is what Reggie’s building: a team of warriors who will fight for all 60 minutes (as opposed to check-cashers like Seymour, Kelly, McChump, etc).
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I like is approach so far in FA.
Hopefully he nails it at the draft.
March 14th, 2013 at 10:53 am
Marks hair Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 10:52 am
no I was trying to get number 5 i ended up with 9 on it:(
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You overpaid
March 14th, 2013 at 10:54 am
sign Potet !!
March 14th, 2013 at 10:54 am
Marks hair Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 10:52 am
no I was trying to get number 5 i ended up with 9 on it:(
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Thats cool 2
I’m sure ODB wouldn’t mind shooting you an extra buck
March 14th, 2013 at 10:54 am
Sign Portet!
March 14th, 2013 at 10:55 am
As the “Clown for Clowney” campaign continues. If he was such a great player why didn’t the Browns keep him? I’m already looking at the 2014 draft. I hope that not only do we Clown for Clowney but also “Mismanage for McCueller”, kid from Tenn is a beast!. Trade DMAC, CP, Reece and everyone else and stock up on Draft picks for 2014. I’d even trade the #3 pick this year if it means we can have two picks in 2014.
March 14th, 2013 at 10:55 am
Thats why i grow my own
March 14th, 2013 at 10:55 am
Sean Smith to KC. They’ll kick out a$$ for a few years to come now.
March 14th, 2013 at 10:55 am
Inonewordraider Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 10:51 am
don’t think he’s lying, those hawaiians love them some raiders
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Maybe Maiava is Hwnrdr?
March 14th, 2013 at 10:56 am
If (when) RM gets fired from the Raiders he will have a promising career at Bain Capital.
March 14th, 2013 at 10:56 am
raiderguy10 Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 10:55 am
Sean Smith to KC. They’ll kick out a$$ for a few years to come now.
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What an extremely weak way to think.
March 14th, 2013 at 10:56 am
Marks hair Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 10:55 am
Thats why i grow my own
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Well stop being greedy and hand dem’ greens to the needy
lol
March 14th, 2013 at 10:57 am
We should be talking to the niners to trade picks.
March 14th, 2013 at 10:58 am
neilb Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 10:57 am
We should be talking to the niners to trade picks.
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And offer what, Coye Francise?
March 14th, 2013 at 10:59 am
The Big Banana Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 10:51 am
mistic says;
speculative
jc only completed 5 games in 11
palmer completed 9
we dont know if the production and targets would have increased or decreased
projected totals for jc vs actual totals for palmer is not a fair way to view it
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Lol. If we can’t go by what actually happened, then what can we go on? The whole thing is speculative then, so why even bring it up in the first place?
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you are not comparing apples to apples because one guy played less than half of the games the other did
i didnt bring up Jc ….you did
March 14th, 2013 at 10:59 am
DMAC Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 10:56 am
Marks hair Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 10:55 am
Thats why i grow my own
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Well stop being greedy and hand dem’ greens to the needy
lol
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sweet… a friend with weed is a freind indeed !!!
March 14th, 2013 at 10:59 am
Lol. If we can’t go by what actually happened, then what can we go on?
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LMAO
I’ve had a few of those moments with our buddy.
Just shake your head and laugh.
March 14th, 2013 at 10:59 am
Im liking the moves. We’re taking our dead money medicine. Cutting the fat. And we’re not that much worse. We had no superstars to lose. Its all about the draft for us.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:00 am
The_Judge37 Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 10:58 am
neilb Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 10:57 am
We should be talking to the niners to trade picks.
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And offer what, Coye Francise?
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As Forrest Gregg once said: “The problem with a trade is that someone has to want what you have.”
March 14th, 2013 at 11:00 am
I read on a few schit stain blogs that Maiva has played both MLB and OLB in a 3-4. Seems like an energetic LB who is versatile enough to play a few positions.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:01 am
33.The_Judge37 Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 10:56 am
raiderguy10 Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 10:55 am
Sean Smith to KC. They’ll kick out a$$ for a few years to come now.
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What an extremely weak way to think.
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sean smith the answer in KC? c’mon man. miami was 27th in the nfl in pass defense, worse than us. and they had a great ass rusher in cameron wake. Sean Smith has potential but is ridculously inconsistent. He is getting courted because of his potential not his production.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:01 am
the Niners might hand over quite a few pics to trade all the way up for milliner. They cant use 14 rookies.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:01 am
*pass rusher
March 14th, 2013 at 11:01 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 10:59 am
Lol. If we can’t go by what actually happened, then what can we go on?
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LMAO
I’ve had a few of those moments with our buddy.
Just shake your head and laugh.
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is this the part when all of the bitter grad / palmer fans unite to try and make a debate where there is none?
predictable , hilarious, and sad
March 14th, 2013 at 11:02 am
Nope,I was talking ’bout this on Sunday.Check out how many picks the niners have and ask how many of them will make their team.
We trade our first pick for a boat load of the niners picks.Works for us and for them.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:02 am
The_Judge –
It is what it is. It’s going to take us 2-4 years to fix this mess yet. KC got Andy Reid (who say what you will – all he does is win), and we are stuck with a lifeless Dennis Allen. I’m not a big Hue fan – but I love the Jon Gruden type. Get fired up and show your team what winning means to you. I don’t think I’ve seen a look on DA’s face other than that of a lost soldier. I’m hoping Reggie knows what he’s doing – but when it feels like every other team in the NFL is trying to get better and here we are with all this cap room and letting young ballers like Sean Smith go without even a look is really frustrating.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:03 am
44.Marks hair Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:01 am
the Niners might hand over quite a few pics to trade all the way up for milliner. They cant use 14 rookies.
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a lot of picks are cool. but i’m not down with going from the 3rd overall to the 31st overall. they have a lot of picks but not great ones. maybe if they move up with someone else to get a higher pick and then move up to us, and give us a second and some more i would be down. i’m not too keen on helping the niners get better either. F-ck them.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:03 am
DMAC Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:00 am
I read on a few schit stain blogs that Maiva has played both MLB and OLB in a 3-4. Seems like an energetic LB who is versatile enough to play a few positions.
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If we can sign Dan Conner and Nick Roach and re-up Gaither, it would give us a linebacking corps of Roach-Conner-Maiava-Burris, with Gaither and whoever else backing up. Trade down a few spots, pick up a second rounder, and get a pass-rushing LB and a NT with those first two picks, and our front seven might be set.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:03 am
Marks hair Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 10:59 am
Im liking the moves. We’re taking our dead money medicine. Cutting the fat. And we’re not that much worse. We had no superstars to lose. Its all about the draft for us.
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agreed
besides these people killed davis sr for over spending on bad free agents year after year
now they are killing big mack for doing the opposite
raider fans or impostor fans? you make the call
March 14th, 2013 at 11:04 am
48. I feel the same frustration, but it doesn’t need to be said out loud.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:04 am
i would rather have talib over smith, the price difference wouldnt be much.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:04 am
The Big Banana Says:
Lol. If we can’t go by what actually happened, then what can we go on? The whole thing is speculative then, so why even bring it up in the first place?
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BB, this your first time engaging Miss Tick?
Like squeezing a water balloon, or trapping a drop of mercury under one finger.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:04 am
neilb Says:
March 10th, 2013 at 8:25 am
Round 1, Pick 31 (31) —
Round 2, Pick 29 (61) —
Round 3, Pick 12 (74) (From Panthers) —
Round 3, Pick 31 (93) —
Round 4, Pick 31 (125) —
Round 5, Pick 24 (150) (From Colts) —
Round 5, Pick 31 (157) —
Round 6, Pick 12 (170) (From Dolphins) —
Round 6, Pick 31 (189) —
Round 7, Pick 21 (211) (From Bengals) —
Round 7, Pick 31 (221)
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Niner picks (not including the pick they’ll get for Smith).All these picks won’t make the 9ers team but they would with the Raiders.
They need a couple of studs and we need picks.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:04 am
Raiderguy10 Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:02 am
KC got Andy Reid (who say what you will – all he does is win)
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Andy Reid is this generation’s Chuck Knox — he can take a bad team and make them a good team, but no more than that. Just as Chuck Knox’s teams completely fizzled when they got to the playoff, so do Reid’s. KC can have him.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:05 am
Yeah, why all the love for Sean Smith?
Wasn’t he the guy that was like half a foot taller than everybody but still getting roasted?
I don’t think he is any good at all. Rather have Newman for half the price.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:05 am
I don’t know if Sean Smith is the answer. I do know that he is young, has a ton of potential, and is starting caliber. Fancis, Adams, and Taiwan Jones as our nickel CB on the other hand….not so much. He’s at least the type of player you want when you are rebuilding.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:06 am
SIR RAIDERDUCK -
At this point I’d love to settle for a good team. It’s been 10 damn years now. It wears on you after a bit.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:06 am
is this the part when all of the bitter grad / palmer fans unite to try and make a debate where there is none?
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Nope, this is where RAider fans point at you and laugh.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:07 am
15.DMAC Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 10:49 am
What up Hwnrdr
I like what Reg is doing
What u think?
Sorry, stepped out for a moment! Yr 2…looking good so far!
March 14th, 2013 at 11:07 am
Sean Smith just signed with KC!
March 14th, 2013 at 11:08 am
Just curious why Sean Smith is considered to have so much potential?
I always hear that about guys that aren’t all that good, that are tall and fast.
Potential, potential, potential.
What about production? Does that count anymore?
March 14th, 2013 at 11:08 am
According to PFF Sean Smith started out with almost pro-bowl metrics and then face planted in game nine.
Injured?
He was +8 at game 8, ended up -3.1
March 14th, 2013 at 11:08 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
LMAO
I’ve had a few of those moments with our buddy.
Just shake your head and laugh.
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Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
is this the part when all of the bitter grad / palmer fans unite to try and make a debate where there is none?
predictable , hilarious, and sad
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Can’t even keep his allies straight in his head.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:09 am
There are a lot of better CBs out there than smith. potential only goes so far. he’s been in the league for awhile now. he should have gotten to that level sometime in his first 5 years. he is still young so anything can happen.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:09 am
What few Vets that are still on this team are watching these moves just like we are. Do you think that they are going to sacrifice a year of their careers becuase of salary cap issues. Watch how many of them get injured and shut it down for the season. If its a bussiness for management then its a bussiness for the players too. They have to take care of their investment. But who suffers? The fans.
I give you the 2013 Oakland Marlins
March 14th, 2013 at 11:09 am
I wold take Winfield on a one or two year rental!
March 14th, 2013 at 11:10 am
sorry guys . but terrance newman sucks,, jus plain sucks
March 14th, 2013 at 11:10 am
dan connor?!?!
dear god no
al davis’s skeleton has more left in the tank then connor
March 14th, 2013 at 11:10 am
Preperation, work ethic is great…but I still want some TALENT
March 14th, 2013 at 11:10 am
whats the corners name from the dolphins? sign that guy. and greg jennings too..
March 14th, 2013 at 11:11 am
Sean Smith is a qu33f
March 14th, 2013 at 11:11 am
Dolphins corner – Sean Smith
March 14th, 2013 at 11:11 am
So Nick Roach is meeting for a second day? That sounds like a good sign.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:11 am
64.Gdog Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:08 am
According to PFF Sean Smith started out with almost pro-bowl metrics and then face planted in game nine.
Injured?
He was +8 at game 8, ended up -3.1
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look at their schedule before week 9
jets 2 times, AZ, oakland, houston, cincy, and st. louis. those teams aren’t exactly setting the passing world on fire.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:11 am
Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:08 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
LMAO
I’ve had a few of those moments with our buddy.
Just shake your head and laugh.
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Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
is this the part when all of the bitter grad / palmer fans unite to try and make a debate where there is none?
predictable , hilarious, and sad
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Can’t even keep his allies straight in his head.
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yep purv is the 3rd
where are all of the other usual team mates
broken palmer worshipers circling the wagons
lol
March 14th, 2013 at 11:11 am
i feel like the raiders and the ravens jus wanna save money . the ravens dont care about winning next season. they like ” we gave yall asuperbowl , hell, now ozzie smith just wants to suck for like 2 seasons the draft well .
March 14th, 2013 at 11:12 am
Which gives them Smith, Flowers, Robinson. That’s a good secondary to have IMHO>
March 14th, 2013 at 11:12 am
Smith signs with KC
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/14/sean-smith-lands-with-chiefs/
March 14th, 2013 at 11:12 am
NGRaiderfan Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:09 am
There are a lot of better CBs out there than smith. potential only goes so far. he’s been in the league for awhile now. he should have gotten to that level sometime in his first 5 years. he is still young so anything can happen.
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yea he’s not all that good. still, we need someone solid at CB. Newman is not the answer. if he gets signed and will be the starter with rookies behind him, then god help us.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:13 am
78.dorian gray Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:11 am
i feel like the raiders and the ravens jus wanna save money . the ravens dont care about winning next season. they like ” we gave yall asuperbowl , hell, now ozzie smith just wants to suck for like 2 seasons the draft well .
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And we are assuming that Reggie can draft as well as Ozzie?
March 14th, 2013 at 11:13 am
hwnrdr Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:09 am
I wold take Winfield on a one or two year rental!
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he has nothing left
he was demoted in minni, and was going to be relegated to the bench this year
you would do better in coverage
March 14th, 2013 at 11:14 am
all the raiders keep signing is above average guys. B &B+ dudes . we need sum damn A`s . or … we can suck for Clowney . jus start t pryor all season and purposely suck to draft clowney .
March 14th, 2013 at 11:14 am
…but I still want some TALENT
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But isn’t having a great work ethic a talent?
Some people are fast, some people are tall, some people can get up at 4am on 4 hours sleep and work.
Talent gets misconstrued as big, tall and fast too much. Being a great thinker or preparer is a talent, working harder than EVERYONE is a talent, knowing how to setup your opponent is a talent.
Give me those talents.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:15 am
70.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:10 am
dan connor?!?!
dear god no
al davis’s skeleton has more left in the tank then connor
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dan connor is only 27. that’s relatively young by nfl standards. maybe u are refering to injuries, or just have a mix up.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:15 am
we are hoping that fat neck reggie can draft as well as ozzie. who knows?
March 14th, 2013 at 11:16 am
85.Just Fire Baby Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:14 am
…but I still want some TALENT
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But isn’t having a great work ethic a talent?
Some people are fast, some people are tall, some people can get up at 4am on 4 hours sleep and work.
Talent gets misconstrued as big, tall and fast too much. Being a great thinker or preparer is a talent, working harder than EVERYONE is a talent, knowing how to setup your opponent is a talent.
Give me those talents.
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i agree. Ed Reed wasn’t the biggest or fastest guy, but he was the smartest, and had the most football instincts. thats talent. i’d take that all day.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:16 am
Ravens have Joe Flacco and a great HC, everything is replaceable in the NFL except those two positions.
They will be fine for the next 8 years as long as he is healthy.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:16 am
let’s see how good ozzie looks without ray
March 14th, 2013 at 11:16 am
Sir RaiderDuck, OMS Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:03 am
DMAC Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:00 am
I read on a few schit stain blogs that Maiva has played both MLB and OLB in a 3-4. Seems like an energetic LB who is versatile enough to play a few positions.
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If we can sign Dan Conner and Nick Roach and re-up Gaither, it would give us a linebacking corps of Roach-Conner-Maiava-Burris, with Gaither and whoever else backing up. Trade down a few spots, pick up a second rounder, and get a pass-rushing LB and a NT with those first two picks, and our front seven might be set.
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I believe Garay is still available.
I would bring him in and plug him in as our NT.
I don’t approve of his gay ass haircuts and cars, but I think he’s pretty solid.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:17 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:13 am
hwnrdr Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:09 am
I wold take Winfield on a one or two year rental!
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he has nothing left
he was demoted in minni, and was going to be relegated to the bench this year
you would do better in coverage
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He was only PFF’s highest rated CB.
+25
And he got demoted when? Do you even watch football, or are you just making it all up as you go? Nothing you say ever makes any sense.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:17 am
And Greg Jennings having dinner with the Vikings, likely to sign with them.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:17 am
So JFB – You want a team full of DHB’s? Do you really think that would get us far? You need to find the guys that possess both aspects. Enough greedy selfish people. Great work ethic is great – but we aren’t going anywhere if that’s all we have.
But isn’t having a great work ethic a talent?
Some people are fast, some people are tall, some people can get up at 4am on 4 hours sleep and work.
Talent gets misconstrued as big, tall and fast too much. Being a great thinker or preparer is a talent, working harder than EVERYONE is a talent, knowing how to setup your opponent is a talent.
Give me those talents.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:17 am
36 yr old Winfield > Smith
Sign em’ Reg!!
March 14th, 2013 at 11:17 am
1 things for sure. us raider fans want to see some sort of direction. like ,, what kinda team are they building? the nations gettin restless.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:17 am
I’m calling DHB in Pitts to replace Wallace.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:17 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:16 am
Ravens have Joe Flacco and a great HC, everything is replaceable in the NFL except those two positions.
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Wow.. something we agree on!
March 14th, 2013 at 11:18 am
I don’t have the desire to dig into the nuts and bolts of each contract and the minute details of them but how does KC, SF, and Denver just keep being in play for every single highly touted free agent that comes up?
Big names don’t mean big production necessarily…but they sure are grabbing ‘em.
They may be one or two yr. contracts for the most part but there are some really talented guys going to teams who already loaded.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:18 am
81.xraided Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:12 am
NGRaiderfan Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:09 am
There are a lot of better CBs out there than smith. potential only goes so far. he’s been in the league for awhile now. he should have gotten to that level sometime in his first 5 years. he is still young so anything can happen.
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yea he’s not all that good. still, we need someone solid at CB. Newman is not the answer. if he gets signed and will be the starter with rookies behind him, then god help us.
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i think newman could be serviceable. that said i still hope we go out and get someone better than him also. I agree he isn’t the answer. a solid nfl vet that stayed healthy last year and played for a pretty solid defense i will take over anyone on our current roster, especially if he plays for anything close to what he played for last year, which was less than 1 mil.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:19 am
im just hopin raiders dont draft geno smith. he jus looks like a bust. amazingly gorgeous deepball tho. draft werner!
March 14th, 2013 at 11:19 am
boss01 Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:17 am
And Greg Jennings having dinner with the Vikings, likely to sign with them.
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know one to throw to him. another wes welker move sticking it to a rival
March 14th, 2013 at 11:19 am
DMAC Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:17 am
I’m calling DHB in Pitts to replace Wallace.
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Nice. The team that was laffing on the sidelines after their hitman Mundy almost killed him in the endzone.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:20 am
So JFB – You want a team full of DHB’s?
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What??
You must have missed the previous post about production.
DHB was tall and super-fast and thus considered super-talented.
Football instincts were nil.
Instincts = God-given talent just like size and speed
March 14th, 2013 at 11:20 am
So according to Reggie, Terrance Newman at 34 is a heck of a lot younger than Greg Jennings at 30 because he is a ton cheaper.
No problem adding 30+ scrubs to the rebuilding heap when they are cheap.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:20 am
78.dorian gray Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:11 am
i feel like the raiders and the ravens jus wanna save money . the ravens dont care about winning next season. they like ” we gave yall asuperbowl , hell, now ozzie smith just wants to suck for like 2 seasons the draft well .
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Ravens have rolled the dice and signed Flacco. If I was Ozzie (and he is probably one of the most successful GMs so who am I to question) I would have let Flacco walk and traded with Seattle for their backup QB (Flynn) and kept the LBs, Bouldin and even got a FA or two for their lines. They would have been ahead financially. I think a lot of QBs can win with Baltimore but if they decimate the team to keep Flacco they will not win even with Ozzie and his ability to draft and the coaching staff’s ability to develop talent.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:20 am
We all know Reg likes those OG corners. Why not bring in Winfield and Adrian Wilson?
2 players of age who straight ball!
March 14th, 2013 at 11:21 am
Keep throwing that stuff against the wall and will see how much sticks another good signing keep throwing at Reggie
March 14th, 2013 at 11:21 am
92.Gdog Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:17 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:13 am
hwnrdr Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:09 am
I wold take Winfield on a one or two year rental!
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he has nothing left
he was demoted in minni, and was going to be relegated to the bench this year
you would do better in coverage
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He was only PFF’s highest rated CB.
+25
And he got demoted when? Do you even watch football, or are you just making it all up as you go? Nothing you say ever makes any sense.
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winfield is a solid BC. the only thing i would be worried about is that minnesota is a tampa 2 strictly defense. can he do anything else. I know he did in buffalo but that was a long time ago…look at what happened to asomugha after u took him out of the system he thrived in here (man 2 man) and threw a bunch of new sh&^ at him. granted philly did a horrible job hiring OC’s
March 14th, 2013 at 11:21 am
ravens blog big on DHB. wierd to me. and terrance newman sucks. smaller cockier stanford routt. problem wit nfl is guys always get above their paygrade and talent grade. newman and routt are slot cover guys for life. both could thrive like that. it would be like makin wes welker a primary outside reciever . wont work .
March 14th, 2013 at 11:22 am
i mean *DC’s
March 14th, 2013 at 11:22 am
NGRaiderfan Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:15 am
70.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:10 am
dan connor?!?!
dear god no
al davis’s skeleton has more left in the tank then connor
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dan connor is only 27. that’s relatively young by nfl standards. maybe u are refering to injuries, or just have a mix up.
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i dont think he will ever return to pre acl form
could be wrong but he didnt look good to me last year
March 14th, 2013 at 11:22 am
110.dorian gray Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:21 am
ravens blog big on DHB. wierd to me. and terrance newman sucks. smaller cockier stanford routt. problem wit nfl is guys always get above their paygrade and talent grade. newman and routt are slot cover guys for life. both could thrive like that. it would be like makin wes welker a primary outside reciever . wont work .
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difference between routt and newman is that newman can be had for 1 mil or maybe even less. we gave stanford over 10 mil.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:23 am
112.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:22 am
NGRaiderfan Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:15 am
70.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:10 am
dan connor?!?!
dear god no
al davis’s skeleton has more left in the tank then connor
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dan connor is only 27. that’s relatively young by nfl standards. maybe u are refering to injuries, or just have a mix up.
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i dont think he will ever return to pre acl form
could be wrong but he didnt look good to me last year
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fair enough
March 14th, 2013 at 11:23 am
Another good signing gig on Reggie . Reggie has left IHOP is starting to put our defense together wait for draft day
March 14th, 2013 at 11:23 am
im bettin the raiders sign beanie wells. only cus iont like him. lol
March 14th, 2013 at 11:24 am
According to Bill Williamson (who is usually pretty on-target), Reggie did try and sign Sean Smith. He got outbid by the Chiefs.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:24 am
So Nick Roach is meeting for a second day?
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Link????
March 14th, 2013 at 11:24 am
Gdog Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:17 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:16 am
Ravens have Joe Flacco and a great HC, everything is replaceable in the NFL except those two positions.
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Wow.. something we agree on!
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That I do not agree with. Flacco is a perfectly ordinary QB on an extrondinary team (wait on a team that was extrordinary). They do have good coaching and Front office that I do agree with but don’t like Flacco.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:24 am
1960.. dont know about that… look who Flacco replaced. if you dont remember , is name is Kyle Boller
March 14th, 2013 at 11:24 am
107.DMAC Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:20 am
We all know Reg likes those OG corners. Why not bring in Winfield and Adrian Wilson?
2 players of age who straight ball!
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i wouldn’t mind bringing older guys in. especially if we get a good draft of young guys with talent who can learn from these vets. would be a step in the right direction
March 14th, 2013 at 11:25 am
J Hill Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:24 am
So Nick Roach is meeting for a second day?
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Link????
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I saw this on Vic Tufurs twitter at SF Gate
March 14th, 2013 at 11:25 am
J Hill Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:24 am
So Nick Roach is meeting for a second day?
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Link????
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C’mon J Heezy
Its way to early to be eating hot links
You better watch that diet
lol
March 14th, 2013 at 11:25 am
if the 49ers sign asomugha ima start beleving in the illuminati. seriously . glen dorsey ? boldin? they might as well get ed reed and rich seymour too.. god
March 14th, 2013 at 11:26 am
I think Reggie signs Roach 2day.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:26 am
119.1960AutumnWind Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:24 am
Gdog Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:17 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:16 am
Ravens have Joe Flacco and a great HC, everything is replaceable in the NFL except those two positions.
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Wow.. something we agree on!
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That I do not agree with. Flacco is a perfectly ordinary QB on an extrondinary team (wait on a team that was extrordinary). They do have good coaching and Front office that I do agree with but don’t like Flacco.
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flacco will not look as good with a horrible @$$ D and his top security blanket WR gone. he looked avg. at best during the regular season. caught fire in the playoffs. if they lose mckinnie too, he will look avg. at again. that big contract will probably haunt them for years to come.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:26 am
winfield is a solid BC. the only thing i would be worried about is that minnesota is a tampa 2 strictly defense. can he do anything else. I know he did in buffalo but that was a long time ago…look at what happened to asomugha after u took him out of the system he thrived in here (man 2 man) and threw a bunch of new sh&^ at him. granted philly did a horrible job hiring OC’s
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Valid points although I don’t remember Minn being a Tampa 2.
But weren’t we supposed to be running more zone with Tarver and Allen?
March 14th, 2013 at 11:27 am
Pft has the saints looking at Nnamdi.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:27 am
FK the Whiners!!!!
They’ll fall short again just like the Donks.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:27 am
Flacco was not much better than Boller when he started. He is now better than Boller but what is that saying? Flynn is not much different than Flacco in my mind in terms of overall talent (game is very different). We will see what Flacco does without his security blanket this year. I Heard throws to bolden better than 60% and throws to the rest around 50%.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:28 am
Flacco took a 5-11 Ravens team that won one playoff game in 7 years, to a playoff win every year and a Super Bowl last year.
Should be two in a row if his “extradionaire” team had either caught the world class ball he threw to Lee Evans or his kicker could make a 30 yard FG in 2011.
Great players play their best in the biggest moments.
That has been exactly Joe Flacco, and many times on the road to boot.
Top 10 NFL PLAYER, top 3 QB right now.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:28 am
DMAC Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:26 am
I think Reggie signs Roach 2day.
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i know i will smoke a roach in less then 2 hours !!!
March 14th, 2013 at 11:28 am
124.dorian gray Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:25 am
if the 49ers sign asomugha ima start beleving in the illuminati. seriously . glen dorsey ? boldin? they might as well get ed reed and rich seymour too.. god
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they lost goldson though. i think all signs point to reed signing with houston. glenn dorsey is good, but he isn’t a good fit for 3-4 as shown by him underperforming in KC. asomugha could be a good signing, could end up like philly. Boldin will be solid, not a game changer. they still need upgrades and they need to fill in for goldson, that was a huge loss.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:29 am
133.NGRaiderfan Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:28 am
124.dorian gray Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:25 am
if the 49ers sign asomugha ima start beleving in the illuminati. seriously . glen dorsey ? boldin? they might as well get ed reed and rich seymour too.. god
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they lost goldson though. i think all signs point to reed signing with houston. glenn dorsey is good, but he isn’t a good fit for 3-4 as shown by him underperforming in KC. asomugha could be a good signing, could end up like philly. Boldin will be solid, not a game changer. they still need upgrades and they need to fill in for goldson, that was a huge loss.
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they lost sopoaga too. he was better than dorsey. that is actually a downgrade if u ask me.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:29 am
Heard McK might be looking to sign LB Dan Connor as well.
That and DT/NT Corey Williams would be a good pickup. I would take Newman on bargain deal as well.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:30 am
Guys
27 is not young for any position other than QB or kickers.
Anything at 30 and over is very risky from a durability perspective.
That is why we will build through the draft.
Resign an occasional solid guy after four years to a big deal but keep bringing in good rookies.
Many of your good players can be lost after four years.
It is the nature of cap football. You can not keep them all but you better draft well.
The Raiders have failed miserably in the draft over the last ten years and it is why we are in the mess we are in now.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:30 am
83.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:13 am
hwnrdr Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:09 am
I wold take Winfield on a one or two year rental!
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he has nothing left
he was demoted in minni, and was going to be relegated to the bench this year
you would do better in coverage
Thanks, I guess! LOL…I’m not that fast anymore and for sure cannot take a hit anymore!
March 14th, 2013 at 11:30 am
Free agent DT Corey Williams left his visit in Oakland without a deal.
It remains unclear why the Raiders continue to bring in older, declining free agents. After blowing up their roster, the time to rebuild through youth is now. Williams is entering his age-33 season and well into his decline phase.
Source: Vic Tafur on Twitter
March 14th, 2013 at 11:30 am
Gdog Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:17 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:13 am
hwnrdr Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:09 am
I wold take Winfield on a one or two year rental!
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he has nothing left
he was demoted in minni, and was going to be relegated to the bench this year
you would do better in coverage
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He was only PFF’s highest rated CB.
+25
And he got demoted when? Do you even watch football, or are you just making it all up as you go? Nothing you say ever makes any sense.
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please idiot
try a little fact check before you spout off
take your pff ratings and shove’em up your azz
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/49327476/sports/player_news
feel free to apologize than shut the fugg up
March 14th, 2013 at 11:31 am
Is Connor that banged up?
He would still be a solid vet and leader for the D, even if he is not 100% and can be had for cheap.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:31 am
R8ER MIKE Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:28 am
DMAC Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:26 am
I think Reggie signs Roach 2day.
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i know i will smoke a roach in less then 2 hours !!!
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I luv cucarachas. They posses great nutrients!
March 14th, 2013 at 11:32 am
Going into 2013, I would rather have Aaron Rodgers than Flacco, but I don’t think anyone else at QB.
He just went into Denver and NE and was CLEARLY a way better player than Brady and Manning. Age has a lot to do with that, I would rather have those guys at 28 than Flacco at 28, but that’s not the argument.
Stared down the 49ers fierce pass rush and threw some darts with the Super Bowl on the line.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:32 am
138.DMAC Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:30 am
Free agent DT Corey Williams left his visit in Oakland without a deal.
It remains unclear why the Raiders continue to bring in older, declining free agents. After blowing up their roster, the time to rebuild through youth is now. Williams is entering his age-33 season and well into his decline phase.
Source: Vic Tafur on Twitter
^^^^^^^
They need some cheap vets on teh roster.
Can’t have ALL inexperienced cheap young guys on the team.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:32 am
DMAC Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:30 am
Free agent DT Corey Williams left his visit in Oakland without a deal.
It remains unclear why the Raiders continue to bring in older, declining free agents. After blowing up their roster, the time to rebuild through youth is now. Williams is entering his age-33 season and well into his decline phase.
Source: Vic Tafur on Twitter
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Amazing how Tafur doesn’t get it, but most of us on here do: Reggie’s signing old guys to be placeholders for the young talent he’ll be drafting in the next few years.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:33 am
still dont think hes worth all that money thou JFB.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:33 am
132.R8ER MIKE Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:28 am
DMAC Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:26 am
I think Reggie signs Roach 2day.
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i know i will smoke a roach in less then 2 hours !!!
Buwahahaha! You know, pretty soon I may have to join you guys! Well…maybe not!
March 14th, 2013 at 11:33 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:28 am
Flacco took a 5-11 Ravens team that won one playoff game in 7 years, to a playoff win every year and a Super Bowl last year.
Should be two in a row if his “extradionaire” team had either caught the world class ball he threw to Lee Evans or his kicker could make a 30 yard FG in 2011.
Great players play their best in the biggest moments.
That has been exactly Joe Flacco, and many times on the road to boot.
Top 10 NFL PLAYER, top 3 QB right now.
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This sounds like those clowns on ESPN years ago talking about Vince Young. He has awesome running game, blocking and defense and plays an average game and they win in spite of him and what do they say. “That Vince Young – he just wins games.”
Should be zero in a row if Donkeys did not blow coverage on fluke long bomb that even Teblow could have completed.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:33 am
connor was expendable in carolina and couldnt unseat super fragile john beason or thomas davis a man coming off 2 major knee ops on the same knee( 3 now)
not sure he is anything more than roster depth,m wouldnt expect anything more from him
March 14th, 2013 at 11:34 am
Reggie, get Leon Washington NOW!
March 14th, 2013 at 11:34 am
101.dorian gray Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:19 am
im just hopin raiders dont draft geno smith. he jus looks like a bust. amazingly gorgeous deepball tho. draft werner!
^^^^^^^^^
Draft Dion Jordan, Jarvis Jones or Star, IF he stays at #3?
March 14th, 2013 at 11:35 am
Its way to early to be eating hot links
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It’s summer time, bruh!
Fire up the grill!!!!
March 14th, 2013 at 11:35 am
Should be zero in a row if Donkeys did not blow coverage on fluke long bomb that even Teblow could have completed.
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Uhh….he evaded this guy named Von Miller, maybe you heard of him, than threw a ball 65 yards in the air perfectly on stride, on the road, in 10 degree weather.
There isn’t another person on the planet who could make that throw.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:36 am
The_Judge37 Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 10:58 am
neilb Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 10:57 am
We should be talking to the niners to trade picks.
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And offer what, Coye Francise
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#3 pick? Do you think they have their eyes on Star L., NT? (If his ticker checks out?)
Yeah, don’t understand the Glenn Dorsey signing by the 9ers?
March 14th, 2013 at 11:36 am
144.Sir RaiderDuck, OMS Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:32 am
DMAC Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:30 am
Free agent DT Corey Williams left his visit in Oakland without a deal.
It remains unclear why the Raiders continue to bring in older, declining free agents. After blowing up their roster, the time to rebuild through youth is now. Williams is entering his age-33 season and well into his decline phase.
Source: Vic Tafur on Twitter
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Amazing how Tafur doesn’t get it, but most of us on here do: Reggie’s signing old guys to be placeholders for the young talent he’ll be drafting in the next few years.
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You have to hope the guy’s smarter than that and he’s just trying to generate discussion.
It would really be a head-scratcher if he believed what he was saying.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:36 am
please idiot
try a little fact check before you spout off
take your pff ratings and shove’em up your azz
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/49327476/sports/player_news
feel free to apologize than shut the fugg up
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If so, it sure didn’t hurt his stats any.
And if you don’t like their stats… the three top rated cumulative PFF stats were SF, NE, and Den. Bottom two were Jax, and Ariz.
Just a coincidence to you, right??
March 14th, 2013 at 11:37 am
131.Just Fire Baby Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:28 am
Flacco took a 5-11 Ravens team that won one playoff game in 7 years, to a playoff win every year and a Super Bowl last year.
Should be two in a row if his “extradionaire” team had either caught the world class ball he threw to Lee Evans or his kicker could make a 30 yard FG in 2011.
Great players play their best in the biggest moments.
That has been exactly Joe Flacco, and many times on the road to boot.
Top 10 NFL PLAYER, top 3 QB right now.
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no way. it goes both ways. if boldin doesn’t make that ridiculous catch on 3rd down against the niners they probably lose that game. If jacoby jones doesn’t make a great play on the horribly underthrown pass and score a TD, or return a kickoff for a td, they don’t win that game. flacco played lights out, but jacoby jones could have easily been the mvp of that game.
and what good is how good you do in the playoffs when you don’t make the playoffs? they lost 4 of their 6 best defensive players, they might be losing 5 of their top 7. they are losing their most reliable receiver, and most likely their starting LT. They also aren’t replacing these people as of right now.
he is a career 55.5% completions in the playoffs. he didn’t make the big mistake this year in the playoffs, because he didn’t have to his defense played lights out. He is yet to show me that he can carry a team for a full season and into the playoffs. and by signing that big contract baltimore is going to have a hard time finding ppl to put around him to be successful.
If ed reed, mckinnie, and cary williams leave, Baltimore wont make the playoffs this year. u can quote me on that.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:37 am
1960AutumnWind Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:33 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:28 am
Flacco took a 5-11 Ravens team that won one playoff game in 7 years, to a playoff win every year and a Super Bowl last year.
Should be two in a row if his “extradionaire” team had either caught the world class ball he threw to Lee Evans or his kicker could make a 30 yard FG in 2011.
Great players play their best in the biggest moments.
That has been exactly Joe Flacco, and many times on the road to boot.
Top 10 NFL PLAYER, top 3 QB right now.
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This sounds like those clowns on ESPN years ago talking about Vince Young. He has awesome running game, blocking and defense and plays an average game and they win in spite of him and what do they say. “That Vince Young – he just wins games.”
Should be zero in a row if Donkeys did not blow coverage on fluke long bomb that even Teblow could have completed.
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stop with the excuses
“if” is worhtless
what actually did happen is flacco went deep and beat the broncs then won the superbowl.
you cant blame the defense for giving up the td with out crediting the qb /wr for making the play
“if’ the last refuge for palmer worshipers
March 14th, 2013 at 11:37 am
JFB
So do you think they will repeat then since they have the next Joe Montana/John Elway all rolled into one? I think they will have a hard time winning a playoff game next year.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:38 am
With Keenan Lewis soon to be off the mark (Schefter says Saints are closing in) I hope the Raiders give Cary Williams a long look.
Apparently they were in on Sean Smith too so Reggie’s clearly looking for CB help beyond Terence Newman. Williams would be a good choice and come cheaper anyway.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:38 am
Sir Raider
I do not think we will sign anyone over 30.
It really is a waste of time and hurts us if injuries hit.
The experiences we have had with Sapp, Moss, Seymour,Spencer, Bartell, Walker etc. etc. says it all. Though we would not even consider big money it is still a waste to have guys go down in camp then scramble for everyone’s last cut casualties. (Like we had to do last year).
Sign guys that have a good chance to finish the season and contribute.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:39 am
You started with the “if” with the Lee Evans drop. WRs drop balls all the time. Just ask Carson Palmer with D. Moore and Streeter being two of the worst at it. Ask Tom Brady in the Previous superbowl.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:39 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:32 am
Going into 2013, I would rather have Aaron Rodgers than Flacco, but I don’t think anyone else at QB.
He just went into Denver and NE and was CLEARLY a way better player than Brady and Manning. Age has a lot to do with that, I would rather have those guys at 28 than Flacco at 28, but that’s not the argument.
Stared down the 49ers fierce pass rush and threw some darts with the Super Bowl on the line.
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He sure made the Raiders look stupid.
I’d take Flacco over anyone on a dream team. Plays best in the clutch? Thats what Montana did.
Weird to be agreeing with JFB!
March 14th, 2013 at 11:41 am
Gdog Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:36 am
please idiot
try a little fact check before you spout off
take your pff ratings and shove’em up your azz
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/49327476/sports/player_news
feel free to apologize than shut the fugg up
>>>>
If so, it sure didn’t hurt his stats any
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dumbazz
he didnt play as many snaps as other dbs that helped his stat line
You took issue with me saying he was demoted and accuse me of making things up
When the truth is you are going off a pff stat and knew nothing about what has been happening to him in minny. YOU DIDNT KNOW WHAT THE FUGG YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT!
Lol
gdog…….EXPOSED!!!!!!
March 14th, 2013 at 11:41 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:36 am
The_Judge37 Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 10:58 am
neilb Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 10:57 am
We should be talking to the niners to trade picks.
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And offer what, Coye Francise
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#3 pick? Do you think they have their eyes on Star L., NT? (If his ticker checks out?)
Yeah, don’t understand the Glenn Dorsey signing by the 9ers?
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Just thinking they have a few holes and lots of draft picks – we don’t have enough picks and more holes than the Iraq navy.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:41 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:32 am
Going into 2013, I would rather have Aaron Rodgers than Flacco, but I don’t think anyone else at QB.
+++++++++
Co-sign. Flacco owns.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:41 am
hwnrdr Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:33 am
132.R8ER MIKE Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:28 am
DMAC Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:26 am
I think Reggie signs Roach 2day.
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i know i will smoke a roach in less then 2 hours !!!
Buwahahaha! You know, pretty soon I may have to join you guys! Well…maybe not!
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Peer pressure!
I’ll get you high at 1 game this season
You may need it to ease the pain brother
lol
March 14th, 2013 at 11:41 am
If ed reed, mckinnie, and cary williams leave, Baltimore wont make the playoffs this year. u can quote me on that.
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LOL
I’ll give you 2 to 1 odds.
Only way they don’t make the playoffs, is if he gets hurt.
McKinnie’s garbage man, and Oher isn’t much better. Their O-line ranked worse than ours in pass-protection.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:42 am
1960AutumnWind Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:39 am
You started with the “if” with the Lee Evans drop. WRs drop balls all the time. Just ask Carson Palmer with D. Moore and Streeter being two of the worst at it. Ask Tom Brady in the Previous superbowl.
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I didnt breaking wind
if is for losers
March 14th, 2013 at 11:42 am
Sorry JFB on the if thing I thought you said that but predictably it was a Mystic comment.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:42 am
152.Just Fire Baby Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:35 am
Should be zero in a row if Donkeys did not blow coverage on fluke long bomb that even Teblow could have completed.
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Uhh….he evaded this guy named Von Miller, maybe you heard of him, than threw a ball 65 yards in the air perfectly on stride, on the road, in 10 degree weather.
There isn’t another person on the planet who could make that throw.
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more like there isn’t another safety in the nfl that would make that boneheaded a play in that situation. most qbs can make that throw. the ball only went 50 yds jones ran the other 20. and its not like von miller had him and he got away. the OT forced miller to go super high and wide and flacco just stepped up in the pocket. thats was good qbs do, that doesn’t put him in elite company. it was more of a huge mistake by denver than a great play by flacco. pretty much everyone knows that.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:43 am
Were you guys mad that Flacco made that throw to Jones at the end of regulation to force OT and Peyton throwing that ill advised pass that was intercepted and put the #1 Donkeys, who just had an 11 game win streak, out of the playoffs?
March 14th, 2013 at 11:43 am
Wind is correct as usual.
Football is the ultimate team game and Flacco made plays that he was supposed to make.
Yes he is a good QB surrounded by very good talent.
Brady, Peyton, Ben, Eli etc. have all looked very average when their protection breaks down or they have to become one dimensional and pass all the time.
We need to do the same for our QB.(Palmer or Pryor)
March 14th, 2013 at 11:43 am
I’d take Flacco over anyone on a dream team. Plays best in the clutch? Thats what Montana did.
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Clarification: Of CURRENT players at current ages.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:44 am
So do you think they will repeat then since they have the next Joe Montana/John Elway all rolled into one? I think they will have a hard time winning a playoff game next year.
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I think they will win the division, and be a tough out in the playoffs.
Teams rarely repeat, so I bet they lose a nail-biter in AFC championship game.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:44 am
Right now:
Is Joe Flacco a better QB than Ray Rice is a RB?
Gotta give some love to Ray Rice in that offense…
March 14th, 2013 at 11:44 am
160.Charlie Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:38 am
Sir Raider
I do not think we will sign anyone over 30.
It really is a waste of time and hurts us if injuries hit.
The experiences we have had with Sapp, Moss, Seymour,Spencer, Bartell, Walker etc. etc. says it all. Though we would not even consider big money it is still a waste to have guys go down in camp then scramble for everyone’s last cut casualties. (Like we had to do last year).
Sign guys that have a good chance to finish the season and contribute.
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What if the older guy is better?
Reggie’s not building on the older guys, he’s place-holding until we can fill those slots with guys that will be here awhile.
AND, he’s being extra conservative with the cap right now so that he can keep the guys he likes that are already here when they are up for new deals. Like Veldheer and Houston, for example.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:44 am
Exhibit A as to why the entire “we are in trouble with the cap excuse” is total BS:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/14/mike-wallaces-cap-number-in-2013-is-only-3-2-5-million/
” As a practical matter, it’s a three-year, $37 million deal, with a year-to-year option on the remainder.
By 2016, the question will become whether Wallace’s performance justifies an investment of $11.45 million in cash — especially since cutting him would cost only $4.4 million against the cap.
The low cap number in 2013 gives Miami plenty of additional room to maneuver as the team attempts to improve its performance and generate excitement in South Florida.”
So the Dolphins can manipulate the Cap but the Raiders can’t? Al used to renegotiate every year with his players but everyone here is buying the argument that its the Cap’s fault?
The San Antonio Spurs used to do this when they had Red McCombs as the team owner. They blamed the Cap all the time as to why they couldn’t bring in talent. Then new ownership drafted well and brought in talent to enhance the team and brought in a coach that knew what he was doing and that turned things around. And they put the focus on winning.
Everyone here is assuming that Reggie can draft well and that the Packer way is going to save the franchise.
Brett Farve saved the Packers and they traded for him. Reggie White saved that franchise and they paid a ton for him in free agency. stop drinking the Koolaid and buying the BS that they are throwing at us.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:44 am
Mystic
Sorry for getting you mixed up with JFB. He used “if” regarding Lee Evans then you used the “if” against me because I came back to him because I thought he was using the if arguement against me after just using it for Baltimore.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:44 am
166.DMAC Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:41 am
hwnrdr Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:33 am
132.R8ER MIKE Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:28 am
DMAC Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:26 am
I think Reggie signs Roach 2day.
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i know i will smoke a roach in less then 2 hours !!!
Buwahahaha! You know, pretty soon I may have to join you guys! Well…maybe not!
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Peer pressure!
I’ll get you high at 1 game this season
You may need it to ease the pain brother
lol
LOL
March 14th, 2013 at 11:46 am
jarvis jones has that potential to be a A defensive player. problem- lazy at times. risky first round pich that tight hair mel kiper wont tell ya
March 14th, 2013 at 11:46 am
I like Flacco too, but one thing that helped him outplay his opposing QBs is his teams defense and pass rush. There are two different versions of Brady:
- The one that takes a leisurely stroll back from center, stops to spot a hot babe in the stands, waits for Welker to compete his triple move and then cross the middle, then lobs one either his way or to Gonzo that waited for the seas to part after 5 seconds of coverage.
- The one that faces a good pass rush early, takes a few hits, and then starts trying to deliver everything off of 3 step drops for 3 yard gains.
I much prefer the latter version as it exposes Brady for his limitations. The guy has enjoyed what quite possibly will have been the longest run of way above average pass blocking of any QB ever in the NFL. Hats of to Belicheat for making that happen.
Flacco is more versatile and keeps his game level up in the face of a rush. When he’s in a game where both teams’ defenses are getting good pressure, he’s got the edge of over the old and immobile ones.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:46 am
living here in memphis tenn. sec football is all on my radar. and we need to draft alabamas entire defense. lol
March 14th, 2013 at 11:47 am
1960AutumnWind Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:44 am
Mystic
Sorry for getting you mixed up with JFB. He used “if” regarding Lee Evans then you used the “if” against me because I came back to him because I thought he was using the if arguement against me after just using it for Baltimore.
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jfb loves “if”
replace “if’ with peter pan fantasy land
March 14th, 2013 at 11:48 am
167.Just Fire Baby Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:41 am
If ed reed, mckinnie, and cary williams leave, Baltimore wont make the playoffs this year. u can quote me on that.
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LOL
I’ll give you 2 to 1 odds.
Only way they don’t make the playoffs, is if he gets hurt.
McKinnie’s garbage man, and Oher isn’t much better. Their O-line ranked worse than ours in pass-protection.
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r u serious with that last statement. Everyone knows, and it was even said by almost any nfl analyst who covered it, that installing bryant mckinnie at LT and moving Oher to RT is what changed the ravens offense. it was the difference. Flacco played against freeney and mathis, miller and dumerville, and aldon smith and barely got touched the whole playoff run. u allow any decent qb to sit back like that and they will pick a defense apart.
you’re really going to argue that out of brady, both mannings, rodgers, brees, and ryan that flacco is better than 4 of them? hahaha keep dreaming the defense carried them hs whole career, including this years playoffs. they shut out the nomber one scoring team in the second half of the afc championship. have fun with a depleted defense.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:48 am
cory williams is a slightly better desmond bryant wit longer arms and more gut , & less stupidity. i wouldnt pay him big money.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:49 am
JFB
There you go again.
Citing meaningless stats that are impacted by so many variables that they are totally worthless from a comparison perspective.
Pass protection is a good one.
We play the Ravens WITHOUT NGATA AND LEWIS. Think that helped our pass protection that day????
The Ravens pummelled us 55-20. Game over in the 2nd QTR and you think we pass protect better than Baltimore???
You are kidding your self.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:49 am
dorian gray Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:48 am
cory williams is a slightly better desmond bryant wit longer arms and more gut , & less stupidity. i wouldnt pay him big money.
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He’s already left the building w/out a contract
March 14th, 2013 at 11:50 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:41 am
Gdog Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:36 am
please idiot
try a little fact check before you spout off
take your pff ratings and shove’em up your azz
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/49327476/sports/player_news
feel free to apologize than shut the fugg up
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If so, it sure didn’t hurt his stats any
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dumbazz
he didnt play as many snaps as other dbs that helped his stat line
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That makes him even BETTER!
Do you have a clue how PFF does their ratings? Its play by play, player by player. If a person isn’t on the field they cannot get a positive point.
If he isn’t on the field but is contantly ringing up positive points, that means he is doing something special.
Sounds like a perfect fit for the Raiders… ya know PLAY MAKERS that Cork keeps eluding to?
At any rate… I am not arguing with you, the IQ VACUUM.
Whats the Twain quote? “Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.”
March 14th, 2013 at 11:50 am
my dream draft tho.. draft werner or star L. trade second round pick to pats for ryan mallet.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:50 am
all of htis talk about ‘what helped flacco” is useless
no man can win alone, but flacco made huge plays all throught the playoffs.
Give him credit.
I remember when brad johnosn won the superbowl nobody wanted o credit him yet he touches the ball on every snap.
perhaps his career wasnt elite , but for one season and during that playoff run he was very good, and had to be to win it all.
Some qbs just get no love no matter what they do, yet the same people would bash them if they blow the game
March 14th, 2013 at 11:51 am
The ball traveled 65 yards in the air, this is well documented.
Youtube it if you must. Into the wind as well (same direction on the field when Peyton threw the game-sealing INT).
One of the greatest throws in the history of football. I’ve never seen one better.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:51 am
ESPN’s Adam Schefter reported on SportsCenter that owner Bob McNair and Texans officials picked up Ed Reed in McNair’s private plane before Thursday’s free-agent visit.
Typically when private planes are involved, teams get their man. We saw it once already with the Bucs and Dashon Goldson. The Texans have made the playoffs in back-to-back years, have a safety need, and just enough money for one free-agent splash. They’d play Reed at free, with Danieal Manning at strong safety.
Related: Texans
March 14th, 2013 at 11:51 am
Mystic
By the way I am no Palmer worshiper.
1. I did not like the trade when it was done.
2. I have been on record saying he should get a paycut
However, I do think if we are going to eat over 9 million in cap just to cut him and if he costs 15 million in cap to keep him, I do not know what we would get for 6 million in garunteed money this year. Add to the fact that he is a good fit for what the new OC is going to do and the fact that he is a good mentor for TP I think a transition year with lots of packages for TP are in order to find out what we have with TP and if positive ease TP into a starting role instead of throwing him in there too fast.
I know we disagree on that but I still don’t get the Palmer worshiper thing. Also I do point up when people are necessarily unfair to Palmer regarding the crap he had to deal with this year from Knapp and the musical chair of WRs. Even his favorite target is getting like no looks on the FA market so far. I think that tells you something but all you look at are wins and losses (at least when it is convientient for you to do so). Teams not QBs win and lose games – this is not golf or tennis.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:51 am
We play the Ravens WITHOUT NGATA AND LEWIS. Think that helped our pass protection that day????
The Ravens pummelled us 55-20. Game over in the 2nd QTR and you think we pass protect better than Baltimore???
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Pretty sure he was talking about the overall grade for the entire season the two lines received not just head to head
March 14th, 2013 at 11:52 am
Citing meaningless stats that are impacted by so many variables that they are totally worthless from a comparison perspective.
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Stats have variables involved man, either they all count for something or nothing then.
You can’t pick and choose which ones you want.
OK, so no comparision, Ravens rated out as the 23rd ranked pass protecting unit.
Better?
March 14th, 2013 at 11:53 am
Flacco is a gamer…….
In the playoffs where it counts most
March 14th, 2013 at 11:53 am
if yall continue to type about the ravens and their issues. ima type about movies . sooo.. i watched that Oz the great & powerful and thought it was rather funny. well done but fell flat at the end. also Snitch was a dang good movie. Les miserables was overrated but mildly entertaining.
March 14th, 2013 at 11:53 am
new post
March 14th, 2013 at 11:53 am
Gdog Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:50 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:41 am
Gdog Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:36 am
please idiot
try a little fact check before you spout off
take your pff ratings and shove’em up your azz
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/49327476/sports/player_news
feel free to apologize than shut the fugg up
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If so, it sure didn’t hurt his stats any
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dumbazz
he didnt play as many snaps as other dbs that helped his stat line
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That makes him even BETTER!
Do you have a clue how PFF does their ratings?
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gdog stop your squirming
you tried to correct me and you were wrong as usual
you dindt know he was demoted
he was demoted because he is getting old and doesnt have it like he used to
you are embarrassing yourself
grab the hot sauce gdog, it will make your foot taste better
March 14th, 2013 at 11:55 am
i cant wait till game of thrones starts back up. spartacus & walking dead have been holding me over…. err.. are we running a 3-4 next season ?
March 14th, 2013 at 11:55 am
new post
March 14th, 2013 at 11:56 am
Teach
The older guy has to be a lot better to make up for the durability risk.
Relying on older vets is risky for a team with little or no depth. An injury even in camp leaves us hanging waiting for last cut castoffs.
The older guys almost always go with teams that have a real playoff shot and will often take less money to do it. Those teams have the depth to compensate for the heightened injury risk. The signing of older players by Mr. Davis was a catastrophic mistake since 2007.
Free agents are usually free for a reason. Either their salary demands are not consistent with their body of past work or there is a low evaluation of one of the variables on the left side of the above equation by the present employer.
A guy like Gannon was a good pick up because the Chiefs had a surplus that year at QB and made the wrong choice keeping Grbac. Gannon also had not played much so his durability was good even at a relatively advanced age. Those situations are rare!
March 14th, 2013 at 12:03 pm
194.SilverNBlackPA Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:51 am
We play the Ravens WITHOUT NGATA AND LEWIS. Think that helped our pass protection that day????
The Ravens pummelled us 55-20. Game over in the 2nd QTR and you think we pass protect better than Baltimore???
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Pretty sure he was talking about the overall grade for the entire season the two lines received not just head to head
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the ravens pass pro was avg. during the regular season. hence y flacco was avg. during the regular season. the pass pro was elite, off the charts in the playoffs, hence y flacco had a great playoff run.
during the regular season flacco was:
14th in passing yds
19th in completion %
15th in TD
12th in qb rating
25th in qbr
qbr is especially telling because of all the qbs in the playoffs, he had the lowest qbr. qbr is “supposedly” how much a qb affects his teams chances to win games. on a team that won 10 games. to be that low in qbr is scary to me.
none of those regular season numbers say he’s anywhere nesar elite at qb. a good postseason run doesn’t change that really. especially when you will be losing a lot of the players that were instumental in getting you there.
they won 10 games in 2012. it will take AT LEAST 8 games to make the playoffs in 2013. with all of the pieces they are losing, hard to see it right now.
March 14th, 2013 at 12:08 pm
191.Just Fire Baby Says:
March 14th, 2013 at 11:51 am
The ball traveled 65 yards in the air, this is well documented.
Youtube it if you must. Into the wind as well (same direction on the field when Peyton threw the game-sealing INT).
One of the greatest throws in the history of football. I’ve never seen one better.
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the ball was thrown from the 26 yard line and landed at the other 20. thats 54 yards in the air. look at the youtube video for yourself.
haven’t seen anything saying it was one of the greatest throws of all time. seen plenty about how it was one of the worst defensive screw ups of playoff history though.
here is the video on youtube check the yardage yourself.
it went 50 yards from the line of scrimmage like i said, and jacoby ran the other 20
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMbOAHZjwdo
March 14th, 2013 at 4:02 pm
Afternoon, all.
March 14th, 2013 at 4:02 pm
Evening, even!