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Allen wants Raiders in it for the long haul

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, March 19th, 2013 at 1:28 pm in Oakland Raiders.

It may not be the message the fan base wants to hear after not having enjoyed a winning season since 2002, but coach Dennis Allen believes in patience and building a foundation for lasting success.

Talking to reporters at the NFL owner’s meetings in Arizona, Allen lauded the business models of teams such as New England, Atlanta and Baltimore.

“We’re really not into microwave economics, where you’re trying to get everything done right now, you’re trying to get out and make a big splash and you say, `Well, we won March,’ ‘’ Allen said. “We want to win November, December and January. That’s what we want this team to do (eventually).

Talking about the importance of building through the draft, Allen said, “If you want to look at the teams that have been able to draft well, they’re teams that, they’re in this year, they’re in next year, they’re in the year after that and the year after.

“That’s what we want to be . . . we don’t want to be a flash in the pan, where you show up for a year, and here we are, a playoff contender, and the next year you don’t hear from us. We want to build a team that’s going to compete year-in and year-out.’’

Regarding Carson Palmer and his $13 million salary, Allen declined to address the quarterback’s contractual issues, stressing that Palmer is currently the Raiders No. 1 quarterback but that every position would include competition.

An Allen Q&A from today’s press session at the owner’s meetings can be seen at this link on Raiders.com.

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  • The_Judge37

    guest123 Says:
    March 20th, 2013 at 8:33 am
    We already have enough smurf wideouts. We need a big guy to replace DHB, who should be signing with the Jest soon.
    ————

    Criner and Streater are big guys

  • inonewordraider

    Reggie’s either going star, jordan, jones, milliner or geno

  • oldschoolraider

    niceguymoe Says:
    March 20th, 2013 at 8:06 am

    Khalif Barnes resigns
    **************************************

    According to KFFL, Khalif Barnes re-signs.
    What a difference a hyphen makes.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    I’m not sold on Sharrif Floyd and I don’t think he should be drafted this high.
    Star (if he is cleared) or Milliner are my picks.

  • RaiderRockstar

    DA comes in and we end up 4-12. I contribute the 4 losses to poor coaching since we basically had the same talent.

    I believe with the team we currently have we could be 8-8 with proper coaching.

    ***

    Why do YOU PEOPLE keep saying crap like this??

    2011 roster = 2012 roster = 2013 roster ??

    so freaking stupid. get a clue already

    Reggie dumped half the roster last offseason, so 2011 team does NOT equal the 2012 team.

    Reggie is dumping and acquiring MORE players again this offseason. Again, not the same as 2011 or 2012

  • hwnrdr

    I see some people on twitter talking about Ed Reed, but he wants $6 million. Is he worth it?

  • Scourge

    Morning/Afternoon, Nation!!

  • http://profootballtalk.com Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush)

    Raiders aren’t drafting a Qb until 2014

    Seriously

  • hwnrdr

    Hey Rockstar…
    Hey bro, did you see 4eva pop in here yesterday afternoon?

  • RNOraiderFan

    #786…That’s where my $ is too. DL in the first CB in the third, CB or FS in the forth, OL & RB in the sixth, who even cares by the time we reach the seventh?

  • The_Judge37

    Reggie dumped half the roster last offseason, so 2011 team does NOT equal the 2012 team.
    ——

    We only lost Routt, CJ, Wimbley and Bush last offseason. So he didn’t really dump “Half” the roster.

  • inonewordraider

    hwnrdr Says:
    March 20th, 2013 at 8:54 am
    I see some people on twitter talking about Ed Reed, but he wants $6 million. Is he worth it?
    _____________
    hell no, the guy’s a career ending injury waiting to happen

  • The_Judge37

    inonewordraider Says:
    March 20th, 2013 at 8:59 am
    hwnrdr Says:
    March 20th, 2013 at 8:54 am
    I see some people on twitter talking about Ed Reed, but he wants $6 million. Is he worth it?
    _____________
    hell no, the guy’s a career ending injury waiting to happen
    ——–

    Anyone can be lost to injury, In Reed’s case he’s just too old to cover the middle of the field for a team with Practice Squad Corners.

  • RNOraiderFan

    I’m yes to Reed. The leadership and the respect he brings is worth 6 lg to me. The Raiders haven’t had a leader since Gannon, Brown left. Bunch of over paid beezies running around like their players is what we’ve had for past 10+ years

  • xraided

    inonewordraider Says:
    March 20th, 2013 at 8:52 am
    Reggie’s either going star, jordan, jones, milliner or geno

    _________

    in that order too.. those are my picks as well

  • The_Judge37

    For 6 million, i’d rather we take a shot at getting Nnamdi or Woodson back in Black.

  • xraided

    yea Ed Reed is asking for the big bux that no team will pay. 3 years ago? yes maybe. he is just riding his all world title HOF safety. i’d do the same thing. start high and settle for less.

  • RNOraiderFan

    When your going into games with whatever two CB’s we put on the field last year when CB play is usually decent for us, you can say we dumped half the roster. Ya all remember the fin game? I almist lost my TV over that BS

  • boss01

    Raiders resigned Barnes??? WTF!

  • xraided

    i guess the winston bandwagon just crashed on the side of the road. 3 teams interested in him, none being the raiders. dmnit reggie!

    VOLLMER VOLLMER VOLLMER!

    if Reggie thinks Barnes is a good RT then he needs to put the pancake down.

  • xraided

    Barnes is good depth, that’s about it. we need a starter

  • boss01

    @VicTafur

    #Raiders have re-signed veteran unrestricted free agent Khalif Barnes

  • The_Judge37

    Maybe Barnes it going to be our starting TE?

  • MikieG

    guest123 Says:
    March 20th, 2013 at 7:07 am

    What’s up MIKE!!?
    ++++

    What Up Guest! Had to take care of some business so I dropped off for few hours…Anything new to report?

  • inonewordraider

    two years ago in the pbs, when khalif wasn’t false starting, he was a solid rt. the man is a behemoth

  • boss01

    Better be for veteran minimum

  • NGRaiderfan

    811.The_Judge37 Says:
    March 20th, 2013 at 8:56 am
    Reggie dumped half the roster last offseason, so 2011 team does NOT equal the 2012 team.
    ——

    We only lost Routt, CJ, Wimbley and Bush last offseason. So he didn’t really dump “Half” the roster.

    =====================

    and satele our starting center, van dyke, chekwa on PS most of season so we lost youth and depth at CB (which was big when the two guys brought in to replace the two starting corners we lost went down in weeks 1 &2), barksdale & campbell (OL depth big since our starting RT was out 6-7 weeks with injury and we didn’t have anything near a viable replacement) Stephon Heyer who played in 12 games in 2011 and started 2, cartwright who was a major special teams player, a unit that was horrible this yr, louis murphy and chaz shilens, kevin boss who is a much better run blocker than myers, our run game suffered. john henderson a good run stopper, somethingwe had trouble with a lot this year. Seymour out most of the season, lito sheppard, Aaron Curry, Quentin Groves, who both started at times last year and played ok, curry was better at LB, and groves is a great ST player at the least. So yea, i’d say we lost a lot more than just 4 players.

  • RNOraiderFan

    Would love to get Aso and Wood back in black! Flipping pipe dream, I know, but a fella might like his pipe dreams.
    Ed Reed for 1-2 years I’m still in favor for. Leadership is a huge aspect of a team and the Raiders have none. I don’t think either Aso or Wood are leaders, they the type that just do their jobs.

  • inonewordraider

    how do you guys feel about mitchell at fs? if not who?

  • NGRaiderfan

    818.RNOraiderFan Says:
    March 20th, 2013 at 9:05 am
    When your going into games with whatever two CB’s we put on the field last year when CB play is usually decent for us, you can say we dumped half the roster. Ya all remember the fin game? I almist lost my TV over that BS

    ==================

    O god i remember that. hartline running the same route on like 4-5 straight 3rd dows fr a first. I remember one of the raider coaches going crazy on the sidelines after the last couple catches too…hahaha. we made tannehill and hartline look like brady and welker.

  • The_Judge37

    Ok i forgot about Satele and Big John Henderson, but the rest of those guys weren’t really big contributors and were replaced by Reggie with equally non contributing players.

  • RNOraiderFan

    The DB situation will need to be addressed somehow I hope.

  • MikieG

    guest123 Says:
    March 20th, 2013 at 8:13 am

    1090 AM just reported that the Raiders are currently shopping McFadden at the owners meetings.

    ^^^^^^^^^

    wow, this is news if accurate. RM went out of his way telling everyone that McFadden was a player to build around and had great faith in him.
    ++++++++++

    In the NFL EVERYONE is for sale unless your Last Name is Brady, Flacco, Manning, Peterson, Rogers, Kapernick or Ryan…other than that it’s:–”You want (Insert Name)? What will you give us….?”
    And that is pretty much the story with the McFadden thing….IMO

  • NGRaiderfan

    829.inonewordraider Says:
    March 20th, 2013 at 9:13 am
    how do you guys feel about mitchell at fs? if not who?

    =======================

    He can’t cover space and FS has to be able to do that. i dont think he has the instincts or ball skills to be a viable option there. Ed reed would be best, but he is out of our price range wand wants to go to a contender, kerry rhodes would be nice, or draft a guy like philip thomas, eric reid, or my personal choice, bacarri rambo.

  • The_Judge37

    inonewordraider Says:
    March 20th, 2013 at 9:13 am
    how do you guys feel about mitchell at fs? if not who?
    ——

    Mitchell is interviewing with the Panthers, and i’d think if he is brought back, play him at SS and move Branch to FS.

  • NGRaiderfan

    833.MikieG Says:
    March 20th, 2013 at 9:15 am
    guest123 Says:
    March 20th, 2013 at 8:13 am

    1090 AM just reported that the Raiders are currently shopping McFadden at the owners meetings.

    ^^^^^^^^^

    wow, this is news if accurate. RM went out of his way telling everyone that McFadden was a player to build around and had great faith in him.
    ++++++++++

    In the NFL EVERYONE is for sale unless your Last Name is Brady, Flacco, Manning, Peterson, Rogers, Kapernick or Ryan…other than that it’s:–”You want (Insert Name)? What will you give us….?”
    And that is pretty much the story with the McFadden thing….IMO

    ==================

    I think they are trying to see his value so they can come up with a god estimate on a contract extension, long term contract. I think they lock him up for a couple more years by week 8 at the latest if he goes back to 2010-2011 form.

  • RaiderRockstar

    We only lost Routt, CJ, Wimbley and Bush last offseason. So he didn’t really dump “Half” the roster.

    ***

    Judge,

    really?

    you don’t remember guys like Housh, Satele, Schilens, Murphy, Campbell, Heyer & Boller on offense?

    you don’t remember guys like Moss, Scott, Henderson, Boyd, Brown, DVD & Blackstock on defense?

  • RNOraiderFan

    What’s up with TK? I would like to keep him, at a reduced salary of course.

  • NGRaiderfan

    835.The_Judge37 Says:
    March 20th, 2013 at 9:15 am
    inonewordraider Says:
    March 20th, 2013 at 9:13 am
    how do you guys feel about mitchell at fs? if not who?
    ——

    Mitchell is interviewing with the Panthers, and i’d think if he is brought back, play him at SS and move Branch to FS.

    =====================

    yea that’s possible, i don’t think branch has the instincts/ball skills to be a ood FS either. we need to stop playing guys out of position. guys o the roster best suited for FS is prbably brandien ross. he played better at FS then he did at corner. could be worth a look.

  • RaiderRockstar

    oh yeah, I forgot Jason Campbell & Joe Barksdale

  • R8ER MIKE

    inonewordraider Says:
    March 20th, 2013 at 8:52 am
    Reggie’s either going star, jordan, jones, milliner or geno

    *****************
    lol .. well that narrows it down !!

  • NGRaiderfan

    837.RaiderRockstar Says:
    March 20th, 2013 at 9:16 am
    We only lost Routt, CJ, Wimbley and Bush last offseason. So he didn’t really dump “Half” the roster.

    ***

    Judge,

    really?

    you don’t remember guys like Housh, Satele, Schilens, Murphy, Campbell, Heyer & Boller on offense?

    you don’t remember guys like Moss, Scott, Henderson, Boyd, Brown, DVD & Blackstock on defense?

    ===============

    groves and curry at LB

    barksdale, tonga, cartwright also.

  • The_Judge37

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    March 20th, 2013 at 9:16 am
    We only lost Routt, CJ, Wimbley and Bush last offseason. So he didn’t really dump “Half” the roster.

    ***

    Judge,

    really?

    you don’t remember guys like Housh, Satele, Schilens, Murphy, Campbell, Heyer & Boller on offense?

    you don’t remember guys like Moss, Scott, Henderson, Boyd, Brown, DVD & Blackstock on defense?
    ——–

    Campbell, Satelle and Henderson were the only contributers, the rest were just depth that Reggie replaced.

  • inonewordraider

    Blackstock on defense?

    838.RNOraiderFan Says:
    March 20th, 2013 at 9:17 am
    What’s up with TK? I would like to keep him, at a reduced salary of course.

    ___________
    no way anyone trades for him at 6.5 mill, so it’s either pay cut or open market

    with all the dt’s avail, don’t think he’ll get much

  • xraided

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    March 20th, 2013 at 9:18 am
    oh yeah, I forgot Jason Campbell & Joe Barksdale

    ___________

    how many on that list are actual starters or even backups on other teams?

    yes technically he dumped half the team. but none were worth a SH!T and the rest of the league agrees.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Raiders re-sign Barnes and MM34 is visiting the Panthers?

    cool. good day so far

  • MikieG

    NGRaiderfan Says:
    March 20th, 2013 at 9:16 am

    833.MikieG Says:
    March 20th, 2013 at 9:15 am
    guest123 Says:
    March 20th, 2013 at 8:13 am

    1090 AM just reported that the Raiders are currently shopping McFadden at the owners meetings.

    ^^^^^^^^^

    wow, this is news if accurate. RM went out of his way telling everyone that McFadden was a player to build around and had great faith in him.
    ++++++++++

    In the NFL EVERYONE is for sale unless your Last Name is Brady, Flacco, Manning, Peterson, Rogers, Kapernick or Ryan…other than that it’s:–”You want (Insert Name)? What will you give us….?”
    And that is pretty much the story with the McFadden thing….IMO

    ==================

    I think they are trying to see his value so they can come up with a god estimate on a contract extension, long term contract. I think they lock him up for a couple more years by week 8 at the latest if he goes back to 2010-2011 form.
    ++++++++

    That would be Just fine with me!

  • Charlie

    Rememember that many of the guys we are signing now may not even make it out of camp.

    The contracts we are offering will allow us to make cuts without adding to the dead money mess we currently have. (Will be up to $39 million this year if we have to cut McClain. That is the highest number I have ever heard of.)

    Like many of you have said Barnes could be a depth guy this season but I assure you we will be drafting heavy for both lines with our top two picks the next two drafts. The line needs are obvious.

  • hwnrdr

    I think Barnes is serviceable…or probably that he knows no one else will take him. Get him to get rid of his nickname and he’ll be alright, I guess!

  • inonewordraider

    R8ER MIKE Says:
    March 20th, 2013 at 9:19 am
    inonewordraider Says:
    March 20th, 2013 at 8:52 am
    Reggie’s either going star, jordan, jones, milliner or geno

    *****************
    lol .. well that narrows it down !!
    ________
    hedging my bets, gotta sound like i know what i’m talking about