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Breaking down Palmer’s situation

The Raiders are at a crossroads when it comes to their massive overhaul under general manager Reggie McKenzie and head coach Dennis Allen: stay the course with aging quarterback Carson Palmer or cut ties and go with a younger, cheaper player.
On Thursday, a Yahoo Sports story said the Raiders asked Palmer to take a pay cut from $13 million to $10 million in base salary for 2013 and that Palmer refused to do so.
The story also intimated that Palmer, 33, is forcing the Raiders hand by balking at a pay cut so that he can play for another team in 2013, one presumably with a better chance at winning the Super Bowl, after being released or traded.
Two people familiar with the situation said the Raiders did not ask Palmer to accept a $10 million salary for 2013 and that the speculation about Palmer’s future is being fueled from outside the organization.
Sure, the Raiders aren’t thrilled about paying Palmer a salary commensurate with the likes of Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady. At the same time, they realize that their best chances of winning next season lay with Palmer at the helm and not Terrelle Pryor or someone they might select in the NFL draft a month from now.
Palmer might not be as productive as he was in his prime with the Cincinnati Bengals, but he still is capable of playing at a level better than most quarterbacks as evidenced by his passing for 4,018 yards in 15 games last season.
For those writing off Palmer, they are overlooking the fact that releasing or trading him would cost the Raiders $9.34 million in dead money on the 2013 salary cap. Therefore, paying someone like Matt Flynn the $5.25 million he is slated to earn in 2013 is about a financial wash for the Raiders either route.
That doesn’t even take into account the cost of acquiring Flynn from the Seattle Seahawks via trade. A CBSSports.com report earlier this week said the Raiders are one of three teams interested in trading for Flynn.
McKenzie is quite fond of draft picks, and he already is without a second-rounder – part of the cost of the Raiders trading for Palmer midway through the 2011 season – and a fifth-rounder this year.
He certainly isn’t going to trade the No. 3 pick for Flynn, and it’s unlikely that he would be keen on giving up a third-rounder this year, either.
One potential option is, swapping picks in the third round with the Seahawks this year and throwing in a mid- to late-round selection in next year’s draft.
Other options include turning over the reins to Pryor, who has made one start in his two-year NFL career, in hopes of finding the next Colin Kaepernick, Robert Griffin III or Russell Wilson, or using the No. 3 pick on someone such as Geno Smith and starting from scratch.
The one certainty is that the Raiders have time on their side. They boast $7.6 million in cap room as of now, Palmer’s contract isn’t going to change and there isn’t an urgency to make any rash decisions just yet.

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  • SilverNBlackPA

    I have a question. For a guy like Barron do they have to gauntee the league minimum or does that only come into effect the first game of the season. Mabye Bcz or JFB would know?

    +++++++++++++

    He doesn’t get a dime unless he’s on the opening day roster.

  • SilverNBlackPA

    The Raiders do not have a second-round pick, so they’re all in at No. 3

    ++++++

    LOL

    Meanwhile guys with actual connections in Oakland–Corkran, Tafur, McDonald–have all said the same things for weeks now: “McKenzie is going to trade back.”

    It’s Pryor or Flynn. Maybe a 4th-6th round pick in hope he can become the next Russell Wilson surprise type.

    No Palmer and I’d be stunned if they take Geno Smith.

  • Charlie

    GdoG

    Kelly will not start. May not be in the league.
    McClain will not start.
    Myers will not start.
    Bryant will not start.
    Huff will not start.
    Palmer will start with Oakland.
    Lechler who cares.
    Wheeler will start.

    We did not go 4-12 because of Greg Knapp.

    Now I know why so many on this blog like to blame the coaches. It provides the illusion our problem is a quick coaching change from being fixed.

    NO. The truth is that the majority of our players were really bad. Two good drafts away for being a playoff factor. 2014.

    Yes the truth hurts.

  • SilverNBlackPA

    1960AutumnWind Says:
    March 29th, 2013 at 10:30 am
    Jasksapuria #1281

    Good one, I had to check twitter on that one. Some of the posts are so nutty you can almost believe it. Whats funny is your first sentence is true. There are always multiple people around the league that will believe almost anything.

    +++++++++++++

    Wait, that Jackasspuria post was a fake

    Damn you got me, son. I hang my head in shame and applaud

  • 1960AutumnWind

    poprox13 Says:
    March 29th, 2013 at 10:39 am
    SilverNBlackPA Says:
    March 29th, 2013 at 10:38 am

    Hell, let’s look at the recent Super Bowl participants:

    Joe Flacco? Drafted
    Colin Kaepernick? Drafted
    Michael Oher? Drafted
    Joe Staley? Drafted
    Marshal Yanda? Drafted
    Mike Iupati? Drafted
    Patrick Willis? Drafted
    Ray Lewis? Drafted
    Frank Gore? Drafted
    Ray Rice? Drafted
    Haloti Ngata? Drafted
    Aldon Smith? Drafted

    Sensing a theme here yet?
    ___________

    Yes, none of them were drafted by the Raiders

    ********************************
    Not just drafted by drafted high round and on orginal drafted teams in other words the scouts for the 4winers and Crows knew how to pic high round talent. The personal dept also knew how to retain them or got lucky. Come to think of it how much of all this is luck. I mean that bomb to Jacoby Jones for instance with the blown coverage or someone like Ray Lewis not suffering a career ending injury by now?

  • SilverNBlackPA

    Now I know why so many on this blog like to blame the coaches. It provides the illusion our problem is a quick coaching change from being fixed.

    ++++++++++

    The Al Davis mindset.

    Fat lot of good it did us.

    Don’t tell that to a lot of the folks around here!

  • Chris in NY

    poprox13 Says:
    March 29th, 2013 at 10:39 am
    SilverNBlackPA Says:
    March 29th, 2013 at 10:38 am

    Hell, let’s look at the recent Super Bowl participants:

    Joe Flacco? Drafted
    Colin Kaepernick? Drafted
    Michael Oher? Drafted
    Joe Staley? Drafted
    Marshal Yanda? Drafted
    Mike Iupati? Drafted
    Patrick Willis? Drafted
    Ray Lewis? Drafted
    Frank Gore? Drafted
    Ray Rice? Drafted
    Haloti Ngata? Drafted
    Aldon Smith? Drafted

    Sensing a theme here yet?
    ____________

    Yes, none of them were drafted by the Raiders

    —————————

    Good point. Draft is definitely the #1 way to build a team. But Anquan Boldin, Justin Smith, Carlos Rodgers, Ted Ginn, Jacoby Jones and others were significant contributors on the two teams.

    Also, last time we went to the Super Bowl many key free players came via free agency: Gannon, Garner, Rice, Romo, Allen, Woodson, etc.

    The goal is to get good players at good value.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    geno > carson

    pryor > palmer

    manual > palmer

    and all three come at a better price tag

  • NGRaiderfan

    Let Palmer go to the cardinals. They have the worst o line on the league he wouldnt last past week 8. And tey would probably be 2-6 by then. Let fitzgerald watch as he runs a 10 yd toure on 3rd and 8 only turn and see that palmer checked it down to the YE for 5 yds then jog off and watch the punt team. Or get sacked and fumble. Or throw a interception with the game on the line. Good riddance. Bye.

  • 1960AutumnWind

    SilverNBlackPA Says:
    March 29th, 2013 at 10:41 am
    I have a question. For a guy like Barron do they have to gauntee the league minimum or does that only come into effect the first game of the season. Mabye Bcz or JFB would know?

    +++++++++++++

    He doesn’t get a dime unless he’s on the opening day roster.

    ************************
    Raider O

    care to comment on the Barron signing?

  • poprox13

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    March 29th, 2013 at 10:48 am

    geno > carson

    pryor > palmer

    manual > palmer

    and all three come at a better price tag
    ____________

    only one of these statements are true

  • Chris in NY

    Charlie Says:
    March 29th, 2013 at 10:43 am
    GdoG

    Kelly will not start. May not be in the league.
    McClain will not start.
    Myers will not start.
    Bryant will not start.
    Huff will not start.
    Palmer will start with Oakland.
    Lechler who cares.
    Wheeler will start.

    We did not go 4-12 because of Greg Knapp.

    Now I know why so many on this blog like to blame the coaches. It provides the illusion our problem is a quick coaching change from being fixed.

    NO. The truth is that the majority of our players were really bad. Two good drafts away for being a playoff factor. 2014.

    Yes the truth hurts.

    ———————-

    Corrections:
    - Myers will start
    - Bryant will DEFINITELY start
    - Huff will definitely start
    - Lechler will obviously start
    - Wheeler will definitely start
    - Kelly is being sought after by several teams and will probably start for a contender
    - Palmer will start for us or someone else

    You may be right about McClain though. He wouldn’t start for my team.

  • Charlie

    Palmer is the best possible option at QB this season.

    We will draft for the Oline with our first pick and actually try blocking for Palmer and Dmac.
    What a novel thought.

    We will use our third rounder on a DE or DT whichever is the best availble for the Dline.
    We then go CB with our next pick and best available after that.

    Our needs are too obvious at this point.
    There is no intrigue.

    No, we are not taking on ANOTHER PROJECT LIKE GENO.

  • 1960AutumnWind

    poprox13 Says:
    March 29th, 2013 at 10:49 am
    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    March 29th, 2013 at 10:48 am

    geno > carson

    pryor > palmer

    manual > palmer

    and all three come at a better price tag
    ____________

    only one of these statements are true
    *********************
    Door number 4.

  • Gdog

    1960AutumnWind Says:
    March 29th, 2013 at 10:33 am

    Gdog

    Ok he lost “5 starters” but he has already found back 4 of them. 3 Linebackers and Walker. Also got a rotational guy or two. Once again I see hamering him on Knapp and Brisell but not getting this. All of this probably done with less gaunteed money than for Bryant alone.

    >>>>

    Burnett was the only quality starter replacement… the rest were 2-down players that chose the Raiders only because they are hoping for more playing time. It may work, but its risky at best.

    My point is the players Reggie let go will be full time starters on BETTER teams… stop pretending these are chumps like Routt we released.

    Al may have let a few players like Zach Miller or Clements slip away, but never 5 in the same season.

  • Gdog

    Charlie Says:
    March 29th, 2013 at 10:52 am

    Palmer is the best possible option at QB this season.

    We will draft for the Oline with our first pick and actually try blocking for Palmer and Dmac.
    What a novel thought.

    We will use our third rounder on a DE or DT whichever is the best availble for the Dline.
    We then go CB with our next pick and best available after that.

    Our needs are too obvious at this point.
    There is no intrigue.

    No, we are not taking on ANOTHER PROJECT LIKE GENO.

    >>>

    Charlie for GM!!

  • oldschoolraider

    J Hill Says:
    March 29th, 2013 at 10:24 am

    Well …

    Reggie has a relationship with the media. All this smoke isn’ coming from nowhere.

    Palmer is as good as gone.

    I guess I need to open my mind to who we will bring in to compete with Pryor.

    QB HAS to be taken in rd 3.

    We might even need to trade up to the 2nd rd.
    ******************************************************

    99.9% of the smoke is coming from the media. If the Raiders put anything out there it was an attempt to get Palmer to re-structure, which he isn’t going to do.
    Why would he? He has re-structured twice already. He did everything we asked of him last year and finished the season with broken bones. Pay the man!

    Why is it that when a team cuts a player or asks a player to do the same job for less money, we say, “it’s just business”, but if a player demands the money that was promised to him, he’s a greedy, selfish traitor? Makes no sense.

    Reggie will bite the bullet and pay Palmer his money and Palmer will be our starting QB. Reggie holds his draft picks too dear to trade them away for someones back up QB and he won’t draft Smith just because he’s the best of a really weak QB class. Aside from Palmer, none of the other options makes any sense.

  • http://www.RAIDERS.com Back-n-Black

    According to Yahoo Sports’ Jason Cole, the scouting report among ex-Packers executives is that Matt Flynn’s “lack of arm strength will eventually be exposed by opposing teams.”
    The Raiders have been most heavily connected to a Flynn trade, but former Packers personnel man Reggie McKenzie is their GM. A deal makes sense on the surface because of McKenzie’s quarterback need and Flynn familiarity, but he’s not going to give up a high or even middle-round pick for a passer he’s deemed incapable of starting-caliber performance. We’re still skeptical that Flynn will be traded ahead of the draft for anything more than a sixth-round pick.

  • NGRaiderfan

    Sign vince young if he is in shape, draft manuel or scott, ad let them compete with pryornin camp

    Dont hate geno but he isnt wort #3 pick

    Would rather trade down and stockpile picks or if i ha to draft #3 it would be Dion Jordan probably. Tell him to hit the weight room and put onn 15 more lbs and put jim at DE

    Like i said before inwould like to trade down twice and get okafor late in the first and d. Miore early in the second.

  • Charlie

    Chris

    You are badly mistaken regarding former Raiders.

    Just like with Routt and the Chefs. Cut in midseason.

    Trust me, these guys are vastly overrated.

    After 49-111 over the past ten years I am surprised you do not see that.

    Heck Bryant could not break into the starting lineup with Raiders on a 4-12 team that gives up 249 yards rushing to one guy in one game.
    Comon.

  • SilverNBlackPA

    Reggie’s team building philosophy comes from the Green Bay Packers.

    Wheeler went to Miami and Bryant to Cleveland. Observe their recent team building philosophies.

    Now which organization has had the best track record of success?

    Y’all want to do it Reggie’s way or Jeff Ireland’s way?

  • 1960AutumnWind

    Corrections: (Commentary on corrections)
    – Myers will start (for Giants? propably rotational may or may not have starter designation)
    – Bryant will DEFINITELY start (Rotational but will be listed as starter)
    – Huff will definitely start (True)
    – Lechler will obviously start(So what)
    – Wheeler will definitely start (He had better being a 25 million LB)
    – Kelly is being sought after by several teams and will probably start for a contender (Not a starter a rotational player only)
    – Palmer will start for us or someone else (Last I checked we have Palmer under contract. Actual last quoted words from Plamer is I hope I am back)

  • willy91137

    Reggie will not draft Gino Smith Reggie will have to play Palmer he will try to get him to play for less

    Will see what Prior can do he will bring in another quarterback probably undrafted free agent or somebody in the seventh round.

    if you had to put a team on the field tomorrow what quarterback would you want

    prior is probably better than Geno Smith right now

    I’m not saying Gino Smith can be a good quarterback but putting him on the field this year would be a big mistake

    you have to realize Rogers sat on the bench for four years behind Brett Favre

    how good of a quarterback Aaron Rodgers be if he was drafted by the Raiders

    I’ll bet you he wouldn’t be half as good as he is today they would have threw him into the fire and he would’ve been struggling. We all know how important a quarterback is in the NFL this team needs a veteran quarterback-you’ll evaluate the players that you’re bringing in on offense if the quarterback as a rookie

    I know Andrew luck RG three Geno Smith is not a man who locked or RG three

    and both of them quarterbacks and better supporting cast than we do

  • dr_robert

    In the spirit of Easter, I’m going to soften my stance on Pryor and even mistic (notice the spelling). I was looking for some funny claims from mistic last night and I realized that while he says a lot of wildly ridiculous things, perhaps I’ve been too hard on him. And while I don’t really feel Pryor will ever be an nfl qb, I’m sure mistic’s (and others) over the top Palmer bashing and extremely premature Pryor touting, have made me respond in kind. I actually really like Pryor. So I’m willing to root for him and hope that he makes it.

    I’m also going to cease insulting people and calling them idiots and morons. It seems only to escalate their retaliations anyway. Like mom said, u catch more flies with honey than vinegar.

    I still would like geno and I still like Palmer but if Pryor is the guy, cool.

    Since I cheated on my Lenten promise, I’m going to stay away for another two weeks. So have fun with all he raiders goings on.

    Go raiders. Go Palmer. Go Reggie. Go Pryor. Go mistic!

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Charlie Says:
    March 29th, 2013 at 10:52 am

    Palmer is the best possible option at QB this season.

    No, we are not taking on ANOTHER PROJECT LIKE GENO.
    ======================

    best option? based on what exactly? 30% wins? the nearly 1 to 1 td turn over ratio?

    Ill give you experience, nothing else.

    Also what qualifies Geno as a “project”?

    he reads defense pre and post snap throws from the pocket, can extend plays, deadly accurate and protects the ball.

    project?

  • SilverNBlackPA

    Aside from Palmer, none of the other options makes any sense.

    +++++++++

    TP6.

    Sink or swim.

    FANTASTIC QB class next year. If TP6 is not the guy, you’ll have your franchise QB waiting on a platter. If he is, then awesome, you’ve got that problem solved.

    Been saying this on a loop for weeks now

  • http://www.RAIDERS.com Back-n-Black

    Chris in NY Says:
    March 29th, 2013 at 10:41 am

    jackasspuria Says:
    March 29th, 2013 at 10:13 am
    From ESPN

    According to ESPN’s Adam Schefter, “multiple people around the league” believe Carson Palmer will never play another snap for the Raiders.
    It’s yet another indication Palmer will be released just before or after April’s draft. We could even see Palmer being released on the second day of the draft, if the Raiders select West Virginia’s Geno Smith. The Raiders do not have a second-round pick, so they’re all in at No. 3 and it would be shocking if they didn’t come away with a quarterback. Palmer is done in Oakland.

    ———————————–

    If this happens and Geno is more Blaine Gabbert than RG3 then Reggie should be fired by the end of this season.
    ……

    One thing for sure… Shefter is more right than wrong when it comes to the Raiders so this could very well happen.

  • Gdog

    Charlie Says:
    March 29th, 2013 at 10:43 am

    GdoG

    Kelly will not start. May not be in the league.
    McClain will not start.
    Myers will not start.
    Bryant will not start.
    Huff will not start.
    Palmer will start with Oakland.
    Lechler who cares.
    Wheeler will start.

    >>>>

    Ok, I take that back. You have no clue.

    Bryant won’t start??? Kelly out of the league?? Huff is a huge NEED at Balt… I don’t see him getting beat out. CP is gone because Reggie is cheap.

    You either have blinders on or are insane.

  • SilverNBlackPA

    Go raiders. Go Palmer. Go Reggie. Go Pryor. Go mistic!

    ++++++++

    GROUP HUG, GUYS

    Seriously, though, it’d be nice to have less hard feelings in here

  • Thec

    Dismissing what is being reported by the media, without ANY denial from the Palmer camp is preposterous.

  • willy91137

    Welcome to the NFL Gino Smith this is in college

  • Thec

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain, whats good? Hope all is well…

  • Thec

    project?

    +++++++++=

    The opinions on this blog qualify him as a project…lol

  • Charlie

    Gdog

    See my 1320 post.

    You and Chris are saying what others said about Routt when we cut him.

    Wimbley started for the Titans. Look at these IMPRESSIVE STATS.

    16 games 16 tackles 14 assists 6 sacks 1 forced fumble.
    Worth the $12 million he was due with the Raiders in 2012??

    NOOOOOOOOO!

  • Gdog

    1960AutumnWind Says:
    March 29th, 2013 at 10:56 am

    Corrections: (Commentary on corrections)
    – Myers will start (for Giants? propably rotational may or may not have starter designation)
    – Bryant will DEFINITELY start (Rotational but will be listed as starter)
    – Huff will definitely start (True)
    – Lechler will obviously start(So what)
    – Wheeler will definitely start (He had better being a 25 million LB)
    – Kelly is being sought after by several teams and will probably start for a contender (Not a starter a rotational player only)
    – Palmer will start for us or someone else (Last I checked we have Palmer under contract. Actual last quoted words from Plamer is I hope I am back)

    >>>>

    You nailed it until Palmer. Look at what Lechler said about the Raiders and Reggie. He didn’t even hear from him. This is what Reggie is doing with CP… he said as much.

    He’s a dead man walking.

    I am only hoping the cheapskate can find a way for Flynn to replace him… Pryor scares the hell out of me.

  • NGRaiderfan

    Myers will start bc hiants have nothing else, and there run game will suffer and he wont do nearly as good there as he did here.

    Wheeler will start, and be solid, but not great, and will get exposed in coverage like he did here. Might turn into two down lb over there

    Bryant will start, might do good, might not. Je had 8 good games of starter level play and signed a big contract. More often then not that doesnt turn out well for the new team.

    Huff will start bc ravens dont haven anyone else. Huff was holding the raiders back from getting someone better. He was ok, enough where we didnt need to replace him bc we had other more pressing needs. The ravens downgraded at the position and they know it. Their defense will b bad next yr. whoever we bring in will probably do as well if not better than him

    Lechler is a punter and was a damn good one for most of his career. Was below avg. last yr. look at te stats. Hes not geting any younger
    We were paying him more than we paid any if the free agents we signed.

  • Gdog

    Charlie Says:
    March 29th, 2013 at 11:04 am

    Gdog

    See my 1320 post.

    You and Chris are saying what others said about Routt when we cut him.

    Wimbley started for the Titans. Look at these IMPRESSIVE STATS.

    >>>>

    You won’t find me saying anything good about Wimpley and Routt… they were CHUMPS.

    Kelly, Huff, Bryant, Wheeler, and CP are all quality players and their career PFF ratings prove it.

  • DutchRaider77

    I kinda am a little bit intrigued to see if Huff’s tenure at CB may have vastly improved his ball hawk skills at the FS spot?

  • Plunketthead

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    March 29th, 2013 at 10:48 am
    geno > carson

    pryor > palmer

    manual > palmer

    and all three come at a better price tag
    *****************************

    Which one is nuttier

    Mystic > a fruitcake

    Mystic > payday bar

    Mystic > bag of peanuts

  • oldschoolraider

    Back-n-Black Says:
    March 29th, 2013 at 10:58 am

    Chris in NY Says:
    March 29th, 2013 at 10:41 am

    jackasspuria Says:
    March 29th, 2013 at 10:13 am
    From ESPN

    According to ESPN’s Adam Schefter, “multiple people around the league” believe Carson Palmer will never play another snap for the Raiders.
    It’s yet another indication Palmer will be released just before or after April’s draft. We could even see Palmer being released on the second day of the draft, if the Raiders select West Virginia’s Geno Smith. The Raiders do not have a second-round pick, so they’re all in at No. 3 and it would be shocking if they didn’t come away with a quarterback. Palmer is done in Oakland.

    ———————————–

    If this happens and Geno is more Blaine Gabbert than RG3 then Reggie should be fired by the end of this season.
    ……

    One thing for sure… Shefter is more right than wrong when it comes to the Raiders so this could very well happen.
    ******************************************
    Shefter and most of the other talking heads swore up and down that Dennis Allen would get fired.
    If shefter told me that the sky was blue, I’d go outside and see for myself.

  • Charlie

    Gdog

    Anyone that could not start for the 2012 Oakland Raiders stinks. (McClain/Bryant).
    Did you see the Tampa game?????

    Myers was a nice fit for Knapp’s scheme since we had a weak WR core. He can not block. Heavily scheme dependent.
    Will not start.

    Kelly is a joke. Total joke. How many offside penalties do you need to see??? He is 32. Game over.

    Huff 29. Very limited. See Routt.

    I suggest you go to you tube and take a look at what real Raider football looks like on our Super Bowl teams in the late 70′s and early 80′s.

  • willy91137

    Silver and black you are right group hug it’s Easter God bless the Raiders

    Dr. Hunter is not to be around the rest of the month good

    I hope Palmer has a nice Easter with his family
    and I hope Reggie has a nice Easter breakfast in I Hop

    as he tries to figure out a way to get Palmer play for less

  • Chris in NY

    Charlie Says:
    March 29th, 2013 at 10:56 am
    Chris

    You are badly mistaken regarding former Raiders.

    Just like with Routt and the Chefs. Cut in midseason.

    Trust me, these guys are vastly overrated.

    After 49-111 over the past ten years I am surprised you do not see that.

    Heck Bryant could not break into the starting lineup with Raiders on a 4-12 team that gives up 249 yards rushing to one guy in one game.
    Comon.

    ———————–

    Bryant had like 7 or 8 teams chasing after him and was in the first wave of free agent signings for big money. He was also the best player on our defense.

    Seymour and TK were veteran players with an average salary north of $10 mil apiece. Guys like that don’t get benched.

  • Gdog

    Huff will start bc ravens dont haven anyone else. Huff was holding the raiders back from getting someone better. He was ok, enough where we didnt need to replace him bc we had other more pressing needs. The ravens downgraded at the position and they know it. Their defense will b bad next yr. whoever we bring in will probably do as well if not better than him

    >>>>

    I think Huff will have a good year with the Ravens. Its one thing being surrounded by losers and the clueless in the secondary… a completely different thing being surrounded by players and coaches with RINGS!

  • 1960AutumnWind

    Gdog

    Regardign Lechler vs. Palmer. Lechler was a FA. Palmer is under contract and healing. Only “bad” thing officially said about Palmer is there will be competition at every postion. Palmer hopes to be back. Rest of this is the slow news day stuff and leaks from sources. I do think it is funny though that the stuff about Palmer started about the time we signed back Barnes.

  • DutchRaider77

    @Chris in NY

    Bryant is a good player…Raiders couldn’t afford to pay him that dough…but if Vance Walker play equals that of Bryant will you be happy?

  • Al_is_theraiders

    flynn nodle arm compares with orton…

  • NGRaiderfan

    Gdog Says:
    March 29th, 2013 at 11:04 am
    1960AutumnWind Says:
    March 29th, 2013 at 10:56 am

    Corrections: (Commentary on corrections)
    – Myers will start (for Giants? propably rotational may or may not have starter designation)
    – Bryant will DEFINITELY start (Rotational but will be listed as starter)
    – Huff will definitely start (True)
    – Lechler will obviously start(So what)
    – Wheeler will definitely start (He had better being a 25 million LB)
    – Kelly is being sought after by several teams and will probably start for a contender (Not a starter a rotational player only)
    – Palmer will start for us or someone else (Last I checked we have Palmer under contract. Actual last quoted words from Plamer is I hope I am back)

    >>>>

    You nailed it until Palmer. Look at what Lechler said about the Raiders and Reggie. He didn’t even hear from him. This is what Reggie is doing with CP… he said as much.

    He’s a dead man walking.

    I am only hoping the cheapskate can find a way for Flynn to replace him… Pryor scares the hell out of me.

    ==============

    U want flynn iver pryor bc pryor scares u? Think about this

    If we miss with pryor is costs us less than a mil n we draft a qb next yr.

    If we miss on flynn it costs us 7 mil plus whatever hes owed in the future, plus more draft picks. All on a guy who is a career backup, had two good games against two of the worst defenses in the league when he played, whole having one of, if not the best wr group
    In the league?

    A guy who signed a big fa contract only to get beat out in camp by a 3rd: round rookie?

  • Gdog

    Charlie Says:
    March 29th, 2013 at 11:11 am

    Gdog

    Anyone that could not start for the 2012 Oakland Raiders stinks. (McClain/Bryant).
    Did you see the Tampa game?????

    >>>>

    McClain lost his starting job because of that game, Bryant WON his starting job because of that game! He only played 20 snaps vs TB!

    Cmon man… FACTS!!

  • Gdog

    U want flynn iver pryor bc pryor scares u? Think about this

    If we miss with pryor is costs us less than a mil n we draft a qb next yr.

    If we miss on flynn it costs us 7 mil plus whatever hes owed in the future, plus more draft picks. All on a guy who is a career backup, had two good games against two of the worst defenses in the league when he played, whole having one of, if not the best wr group
    In the league?

    A guy who signed a big fa contract only to get beat out in camp by a 3rd: round rookie?

    >>>>

    He’s the best available QB bud.

    You can’t go into a gun fight with a squirt gun… ya got to have SOMETHING… regardless of costs.