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Coach Allen hopeful of Flynn following footsteps of Rodgers, Schaub

By Steve Corkran
Monday, April 1st, 2013 at 6:09 pm in Oakland Raiders.

The Raiders makeover kicked into overdrive Monday when they traded for inexperienced quarterback Matt Flynn and worked further on jettisoning veteran quarterback Carson Palmer.
General manager Reggie McKenzie has been in cost-cutting mode since he was hired by owner Mark Davis last year.
Getting out from under “out-of-whack contracts” and finding a long-term solution at quarterback were huge priorities from the outset. In Flynn, the Raiders are hopeful they found their man at a fraction of the price Palmer would have cost.
“Matt’s one of those guys, even though he hasn’t had a lot of opportunities, when he’s had those opportunities, he’s made the most out of those chances,” Raiders coach Dennis Allen said in a conference call. “We feel real good about that, and feel real good about getting a young prospect at quarterback.”
Therein lies the rub. Palmer started 121 regular-season games during his 10-year NFL career. Flynn and Terrelle Pryor combined for three starts during their NFL careers. Yet, one of them is going to be the starter a little more than five months from today.
Palmer still is a part of the Raiders roster. However, he no longer is a part of their plans, Allen said. Several reports said Palmer is bound for the Arizona Cardinals in exchange for a late-round draft pick.
“When we looked at it, both from his standpoint and our standpoint, we just realized that it was time for us to move on and move forward,” Allen said of Palmer.
Flynn was unavailable for comment. He is slated to speak with Bay Area media Tuesday.
Flynn, 27, started only two games in his five NFL seasons. He spent his first four seasons backing up Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay. Last season, he appeared in only three games for the Seahawks after being beaten out by rookie Russell Wilson.
Allen said he is hopeful that Flynn will flourish if given the opportunity, in much the same way Rodgers did taking over for Brett Favre and Matt Schaub did after being traded to the Houston Texans.
Neither Allen nor McKenzie anointed Flynn the clear-cut starter. That’s in keeping with their stance that they want competition at every position.
Yet, it seems likely that McKenzie and Allen are counting upon Flynn to be their starting quarterback for 2013 and beyond.
“Matt is a tough football player, and a talented quarterback,” McKenzie said in a press release. “He will get the opportunity to compete to be a starter with the Raiders. I believe Matt has that potential, but I also know he hasn’t had enough experience.”
Palmer is the latest high-priced player targeted by McKenzie this offseason. He joins defensive tackle Tommy Kelly, cornerback Michael Huff and wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey, all of whom were released.
Palmer, 33, is scheduled to earn $13 million in base salary in 2013, whereas Flynn is on the books for $5.25 million. Allen said he hasn’t spoken with Palmer since the Flynn trade.
“I talked to Carson probably Saturday, over the weekend, and kind of explained to him, where we were at, what the process was,” Allen said. “He and his representation totally understand where we’re at.”
McKenzie inherited a roster that featured Palmer as the unquestioned starter and Pryor the long-term project. Flynn provides a measure of comfort through McKenzie’s familiarity with the Louisiana State product.
McKenzie scouted Flynn in 2007, when McKenzie worked for the Green Bay Packers. Ultimately, the Packers selected two quarterbacks in the 2008 draft, Brian Brohm in the second round and Flynn in the seventh.
Taking a chance on Flynn is the latest in a long line of gambles by the Raiders on finding a long-term solution.
Since 2006, the Raiders committed seven draft picks on the following quarterbacks: JaMarcus Russell, Jason Campbell, Pryor, Palmer and Flynn.

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  • guest123

    I’m probably the only one but did anyone else find it interesting that DA couldn’t remember whether he talked to Carson on Saturday or not?

    *********

    I’m thought it was odd too. Like he talked to him in passing while he was busy running errands and got interrupted. Over the weekend is kind of nonspecific. But maybe I’m making too much of it as well.

  • Plunketthead

    DJ Johnny Says:
    April 2nd, 2013 at 7:55 am
    ArtilleryShell Says:
    April 2nd, 2013 at 7:51 am
    What’s up with the status of hiring a team president? Is that for football or is that more operational/ business

    I was wondering myself. We hear of guys then hear nothing else.

    -Madison Square Garden guy?

    -Ray Anderson from NFL offices?

    -Mike Holmgren?

    We heard they were talking to all of those guys but there was no follow up whatsoever.
    ***********************

    Al hinted at the same thing in the years before his death

  • pcraider

    Carson did NOT want to be here period. Quit analyzing the cap numbers for Flynn v Palmer. We re rebuilding……Duh! Lets force Carson to be here. I cn barely watch the guy as he drops his head during a pick 6 and most of you want him in the locker room with a bunch of young players…

    Anyone who wants no part of it including so called fans….later.
    Your all wanna be GMs, trade your selfs to other teams. I recommend wherever these pro bowl caliber ex raider free agents went.

    Otherwise put your hard hat on grab your lunch pale and lets go to work!!!!!!

  • The_Judge37

    Charlie Says:
    April 2nd, 2013 at 8:03 am
    Shell

    You are forgetting about the draft.

    You will see an infusion of an OT/G and DT with our top two picks.

    Next year we actually have all of our picks.
    —–

    Actually, we’re without next year’s 5th for Flynn

  • guest123

    I think by guaranteeing Flynn’s 6 mill THIS yr. it avoids spreading out guaranteed money for future years and turns more into “prove it” season for 2013.

    ^^^^^^^

    How are avoiding spreading out Gtd money Johnny? He was only due $2 million in the first place. He was more in a “prove” it portion of his contract and Seattle already paid $8 million in gtd money last year. We concede more gtd money now and that serves what purpose? It’s not like we were on the hook pre-trade, but now we are.

  • Charlie

    Judge

    Correct. I am assuming we will be getting something similar for Palmer.

    Picks after round four IMO are low probabilities any way.

    With the Raiders, rounds 1-3 need to start for the next two seasons.

  • The_Judge37

    I really don’t know what to think about Flynn, so i’m not going to chalk it up as a bad or good move.

    On a positive note this weekend, at least T. Newman resigned with the Bungles.

  • The_Judge37

    856.Charlie Says:
    April 2nd, 2013 at 8:09 am
    Judge

    Correct. I am assuming we will be getting something similar for Palmer.

    Picks after round four IMO are low probabilities any way.
    ——-

    Would’ve had a better chance at getting something good for Palmer if they had dealt him before getting Flynn. Now teams know we’re desperate or will just release him anyway.

  • guest123

    I’m really trying not to be a wise-arse here. I’m honestly puzzled and would like someone more enlightened than me to please explain the reasoning behind the increased gtd money on Flynn’s deal.

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist

    OAKLAND RAIDERS ‏@RAIDERS 15h

    DA on QB reps: “I don’t really get into all that at this point b/c I think what happens is the cream is always going to rise to the top.”
    Retweeted by Steve Corkran
    ==================================================

    There it is. From the Raiders official website.

    He’s gonna start the white guy. Hah!

    Good Morning Raider Nation!!!

  • RaidingTexas

    The_Judge37 Says:

    I really don’t know what to think about Flynn, so i’m not going to chalk it up as a bad or good move.

    ——————————————–

    Same here. The body of work is too small. My main worry is that he has a cast of unreliable WRs around him.

  • irjonny

    Where’s the resident capologist when you need them

    Some please splain to me why Reggie threw an additional $4 million gtd at Flynn?

    What’s in it for us?
    ———————————-
    restructuring his contract was probably part of the deal with seattle to alleviate the dead money on their end and why they accepted so little in draft picks.

  • inonewordraider

    j campbell wasn’t any more talented or any more accurate on the deep ball than flynn and we won with him

    if the oline, receivers, running game, defense is coached to 2011 levels and Reggie adds the right pieces we can win in 2013

  • pcraider

    Judge, if Carson didn’t want to be here and we don’t trade a 5th rounder next year (knowing were gonna get 4 comp picks that very same year)

    I would love to hear what QB you would have brought in that’s available?

  • The_Judge37

    Bright side/down side?, i guess this means no to Geno.

  • DJ Johnny

    First Take on ESPN with SA Smith and Bayless did a pretty good piece on the Flynn/Palmer saga.

    S.A Smith was going on about how great the fans in Oakland are and how we deserve better and how he “really feels for us” and what we’ve had to go through with Russell and Al Davis (his final yrs) etc.

    He really has an issue w/ Palmer not wanting to restructure or take a pay cut and was mad that “Carson Palmer is puffing his chest out refusing to take a pay cut” and Bayless agreed.

    They both agreed that Flynn was impressive in his two starts but not enough body of work. SA Smith said it’s worth the risk to bring in Flynn and replace Palmer…especially if Palmer won’t do a pay cut.

  • The_Judge37

    864.pcraider Says:
    April 2nd, 2013 at 8:14 am
    Judge, if Carson didn’t want to be here and we don’t trade a 5th rounder next year (knowing were gonna get 4 comp picks that very same year)

    I would love to hear what QB you would have brought in that’s available?
    ——-

    I don’t know, why are you asking me? I don’t know if Flynn is a good move or not.

  • RaidingTexas

    Guest123 Says:
    April 2nd, 2013 at 8:11 am
    I’m really trying not to be a wise-arse here. I’m honestly puzzled and would like someone more enlightened than me to please explain the reasoning behind the increased gtd money on Flynn’s deal.

    ———————————————-

    Someone on the radio said it was more of a good-will gesture by Reggie to show Flynn that he has confidence in him. It makes me think Flynn was not real high on going to Oakland (although technically he had no choice in the matter).

    It could also be to maximize cap space as much as possible for 2014. As it stands now, the Raiders are going to have massive space next offseason.

  • irjonny

    JUST SIGNED TRACY PORTER!!!

  • http://www.safc.com/the-club/stadium/about-the-stadium-of-light neilb

    Just in from work………Carson’s still here?

  • irjonny

    Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 2m
    Raiders reached agreement on a one-year deal with former Broncos CB Tracy Porter.

  • pcraider

    Is there a guarantee Geno will be there at # 3?

  • The_Judge37

    Hopefully Flynn is savvy and doesn’t need any coaching. Because DeFilppo is already overwhelmed with trying to teach one QB

  • http://goducks.com Sir RaiderDuck, OMS

    From Twitter:

    Adam Schefter
    Raiders reached agreement on a one-year deal with former Broncos CB Tracy Porter.
    3 minutes ago from UberSocial for BlackBerry

  • irjonny

    restructuring Flynn’s contract i’m sure was part of the deal with seattle to alleviate the dead money on their end and why they accepted so little in draft picks.

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist

    guest123 Says:
    I’m really trying not to be a wise-arse here.
    =======================================================

    I can relate. I try hard, also. But I fail a lot.

  • http://goducks.com Sir RaiderDuck, OMS

    We have signed Potet!

  • hwnrdr

    Just seen that…Portet…lol
    Signed a one year deal!

  • guest123

    Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
    April 2nd, 2013 at 8:12 am
    OAKLAND RAIDERS ‏@RAIDERS 15h

    DA on QB reps: “I don’t really get into all that at this point b/c I think what happens is the cream is always going to rise to the top.”
    Retweeted by Steve Corkran
    ==================================================

    There it is. From the Raiders official website.

    He’s gonna start the white guy. Hah!

    Good Morning Raider Nation!!!

    ^^^^^^^^^
    HAHAHA

    Good one Purvis!

  • The_Judge37

    871.irjonny Says:
    April 2nd, 2013 at 8:17 am
    Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 2m
    Raiders reached agreement on a one-year deal with former Broncos CB Tracy Porter.
    -

    Thank you Terrance Newman! Hopefully he plays more than he did with the Donkeys. We only need two games form him to be more than Spencer and Bartell played.

  • DJ Johnny

    The_Judge37 Says:
    April 2nd, 2013 at 8:09 am
    I really don’t know what to think about Flynn, so i’m not going to chalk it up as a bad or good move.

    On a positive note this weekend, at least T. Newman resigned with the Bungles.

    The part I don’t like is Reggie not being able to close the deal on a middling, aging guy he wanted.

  • inonewordraider

    Porter>Newman

    if this guy can stay healthy, great signing

    LETS GO BIG MACK!

  • guest123

    They signed PORTET MIKE!!

    Woooo HOOOOOO!!!!

  • RaidingTexas

    Irjonny Says:
    April 2nd, 2013 at 8:17 am
    Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 2m
    Raiders reached agreement on a one-year deal with former Broncos CB Tracy Porter.

    —————————————

    Wow! Solid signing. And they beat out the Saints for him. Well done, Reggie.

  • No Mas Diamante

    Porter a Raider. Nice move Rg. Keep it up.

  • The_Judge37

    881.DJ Johnny Says:
    April 2nd, 2013 at 8:19 am
    The_Judge37 Says:
    April 2nd, 2013 at 8:09 am
    I really don’t know what to think about Flynn, so i’m not going to chalk it up as a bad or good move.

    On a positive note this weekend, at least T. Newman resigned with the Bungles.

    The part I don’t like is Reggie not being able to close the deal on a middling, aging guy he wanted.
    —-

    It’s a blessing in disguise. Newman was a 34 year old DVD

  • http://www.safc.com/the-club/stadium/about-the-stadium-of-light neilb

    Have you got links?

  • MikieG

    Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 1m

    Raiders reached agreement on a one-year deal with former Broncos CB Tracy Porter

    =====

    Nice!

  • pcraider

    I wonder if Saints fans are now complaining that management can’t close the deal on anyone! (Porter)

    Nice job Reg.

  • http://goducks.com Sir RaiderDuck, OMS

    DJ Johnny Says:
    April 2nd, 2013 at 8:19 am

    The part I don’t like is Reggie not being able to close the deal on a middling, aging guy he wanted.

    =======================================

    There’s nothing about “closing a deal” there. Newman obviously never had any intention of leaving Cincy and just using our interest to try to get the notoriously tightwad Bengals to cough up a few more bux.

  • DJ Johnny

    The_Judge37 Says:
    April 2nd, 2013 at 8:19 am
    871.irjonny Says:
    April 2nd, 2013 at 8:17 am
    Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 2m
    Raiders reached agreement on a one-year deal with former Broncos CB Tracy Porter.
    -

    Thank you Terrance Newman! Hopefully he plays more than he did with the Donkeys. We only need two games form him to be more than Spencer and Bartell played.

    This is a good signing. Makes up for not snagging losing Newman.

  • MikieG

    Bring Back Nnamdi!!!

  • RaidingTexas

    The_Judge37 Says:

    Hopefully Flynn is savvy and doesn’t need any coaching. Because DeFilppo is already overwhelmed with trying to teach one QB

    —————————————

    Subtle dig at TP LMAO!

  • The_Judge37

    What i don’t like about Porter, is that he’s only 26 yrs old and has already been let go by two teams in two years.

  • guest123

    Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
    April 2nd, 2013 at 8:18 am
    guest123 Says:
    I’m really trying not to be a wise-arse here.
    =======================================================

    I can relate. I try hard, also. But I fail a lot.

    ^^^^^^^^

    I know I know! Me too!

  • The_Judge37

    893.RaidingTexas Says:
    April 2nd, 2013 at 8:21 am
    The_Judge37 Says:

    Hopefully Flynn is savvy and doesn’t need any coaching. Because DeFilppo is already overwhelmed with trying to teach one QB

    —————————————

    Subtle dig at TP LMAO!

    My bad, it was suppossed to be a dig at John DeFilppo.

  • DJ Johnny

    Sir RaiderDuck, OMS Says:
    April 2nd, 2013 at 8:21 am
    DJ Johnny Says:
    April 2nd, 2013 at 8:19 am

    The part I don’t like is Reggie not being able to close the deal on a middling, aging guy he wanted.

    =======================================

    There’s nothing about “closing a deal” there. Newman obviously never had any intention of leaving Cincy and just using our interest to try to get the notoriously tightwad Bengals to cough up a few more bux.

    You think so? Ok. That’s cool, I hope that’s the case.

  • MikieG

    The_Judge37 Says:
    April 2nd, 2013 at 8:21 am

    What i don’t like about Porter, is that he’s only 26 yrs old and has already been let go by two teams in two years.
    +++++++

    D.A coached him..he knows what he is getting…

  • inonewordraider

    pcraider Says:
    April 2nd, 2013 at 8:21 am
    I wonder if Saints fans are now complaining that management can’t close the deal on anyone! (Porter)

    Nice job Reg.
    ____________
    touche!

  • The_Judge37

    898.MikieG Says:
    April 2nd, 2013 at 8:22 am
    The_Judge37 Says:
    April 2nd, 2013 at 8:21 am

    What i don’t like about Porter, is that he’s only 26 yrs old and has already been let go by two teams in two years.
    +++++++

    D.A coached him..he knows what he is getting…
    —–

    That’s what i’m affraid of :(