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Flynn going to compete for starting job

By Steve Corkran
Monday, April 1st, 2013 at 11:24 am in Oakland Raiders.

The Raiders acquired quarterback Matt Flynn from the Seattle Seahawks on Monday in exchange for two future draft picks.
The arrival of Flynn is coupled with the expected trade of Raiders quarterback Carson Palmer to the Arizona Cardinals for a late-round draft pick.
The Raiders dealt a 2014 fifth-round pick and an unconditional draft pick in 2015 to the Seahawks for Flynn. It’s likely that the Raiders will recoup a late-round pick for trading Palmer.
Palmer was the unquestioned starter last season. Flynn isn’t being handed the job, general manager Reggie McKenzie said.
“Matt is a tough football player, and a talented quarterback,” McKenzie said in a press release. “He will get the opportunity to compete to be a starter with the Raiders. I believe Matt has that potential, but I also know he hasn’t had enough experience.”
Flynn has started only two games in his five NFL seasons. He spent his first four seasons backing up Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay. Last season, he appeared in only three games for the Seahawks after being beaten out by rookie Russell Wilson.
McKenzie and coach Dennis Allen said they want competition at every position. Therefore, Flynn is going to compete against second-year player Terrelle Pryor for the starting job. Pryor started one game in his first two NFL seasons.
Trading for Flynn and moving on from Palmer has just as much to do with money as it does anything. Palmer is slated to earn $13 million in base salary this season. Flynn carries a $5.25 million price tag for this season.
The Raiders save approximately $6 million by jettisoning Palmer, though Palmer counts $9.34 million against the cap because of the unaccounted for prorated portion of his 2012 signing bonus.
Flynn, 27, gives general manager Reggie McKenzie a quarterback of his choosing and one that he is familiar with from the four years he spent with Flynn in Green Bay as members of the Packers from 2008-11.
McKenzie inherited Palmer and Pryor from the previous regime that was led by head coach Hue Jackson.
Jackson engineered a midseason trade for Palmer in 2011 that cost the Raiders a first-round pick last year and a second-rounder in this year’s draft. The Raiders won only eight of the 24 games that Palmer started.
Flynn is six years younger than Palmer, far less expensive and someone eager to show that he is talented enough to be a full-time starter in the NFL.

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  • fingers

    McFaddens never given us a reason to believe he can play a whole 16 game season…
    Whoever the Qb ends up being Reggie better improve the offense…or no Qbs gonna make a difference …

  • edward teach

    122.KoolKell Says:
    April 1st, 2013 at 12:02 pm
    Shutdown Says:
    April 1st, 2013 at 11:55 am

    I wish Carson Palmer well, wherever he goes.

    He came in under Hue, under awful conditions. He studies the playbook 24/7 for the team and for two years took shots because of our o-line miseries. He hung in there until it cost him broken ribs and he’s lucky his lungs weren’t punctured in the process. He restructured his salary for the sake of the team and I think he knows we’re going for defense in the draft.

    He’s a class act. I’ll root for him.
    ————————
    Did you root for Jason Campbell too when he went to Chicago?

    ********************************************************

    I thought Jason Campbell was a class act in Oakland. Brought stability and professionalism to the position, which obviously was lacking before he arrived.

    I don’t know if I actually rooted for him in Chicago because I knew (as he did) that he was going there as a backup.

    I did feel bad for him when he fell on his face in his one game as a starter there, though.

  • Cervantes

    We have 2 remaining overpaid players…

    1. McClain – Could be useful with a solid DL

    2. DMC – has 1 year left to stay healthy or he’s gone and Reggie might find his replacement in this year’s draft.

    I think we’ll win more than 4 games this year, but I know we’ll compete in each game AND stop the run AND no more bone head penalties or throwing into triple coverage for a pick (Cough: Carson).

  • mcfadden20.

    :) trade Dr. Thomson for bag of Cheetos now

  • irjonny

    Great trade. Lets see what mckenzie can get for Palmer. If we get a 4th I will lose it! Go Reggie!!

  • Thec

    DA is going no where soon.

    Reg is going to be around a while as well.

  • dr_robert

    williamson:

    “This trade is not a good sign for Pryor. This is a team that is total rebuild mode. If the Raiders felt it was necessary to trade for an unproven quarterback instead of giving the ball to the third-year player who was already on the roster, it means the Raiders don’t think Pryor is ready for the job in any way.”

  • Priesttj12

    If you really think Flynn could beat out Pryor you are really blind with bias. At no point in his career has Flynn been better than Pryor. To suggest he has shows blatant ignorance. If Palmer was not a shoe-in and I’m telling ya’ he wasn’t how much less is Flynn?

    Reggie wanted Palmer to restructure why?

    Reggie knew there was an outside chance Pryor would flat outplay him in preseason and he would be wasting a TON of $$$. He had to try to get Palmer to restructure it was the only way he could possible justify keeping him on the roster if he lost his job.

    Now that he trades him what else would be the reason other than he makes more money than he is worth. But we know if he was the unquestioned starter that is not a bad contract for an unquestioned starter. Problem is there was a question as to him staying in that position with Pryor here. So the obvious thing to do is get an insurance policy, trade Palmer and give Pryor the chance to do what he would have probably done anyway. Beat out the competetiton ans become the starting QB………..period

    Flynn is a cost effective backup and a capable backup to Pryor all we need now is a vet to come in and compete with the new face of the franchise and add stability…..period

  • Charlie

    We will become relavant again in 2014.

    This is not cost cutting it is cost management.

    4-12 and $5 million over the cap at the end of this past season. What did you think Reggie was going to do???

    The players we have let go/traded were either really bad or played no where near their salary level.

  • RaiderRockstar
  • guest123

    Thec Says:
    April 1st, 2013 at 12:10 pm
    DA is going no where soon.

    Reg is going to be around a while as well.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    I gotta disagree with you on the first, second I agree with you.

  • http://polarityblog.com Silverandblack666

    “mistic–u LIKE flynn?”

    No he thinks this means Pryor is our starter he is brain dead, Pryor will still be 3rd string.

  • SilverNBlackPA

    RaiderDebo Says:
    April 1st, 2013 at 11:49 am
    SilverNBlackPA Says:
    April 1st, 2013 at 11:36 am
    If Jackson just rolls with Boller the pants schitter, he keeps his job for 2012 because no way Reggie fires him…Boller was a built in excuse for failure and another chance.

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Except Hue wasn’t into excuses. He was trying to win. Bad trade, but I get why he did it. I fault Palmer for being a bigger bust than I thought he would be. At any rate, it’s fun being a Raider fan again. Wonder how long it takes for Palmer to QUIT on Arizona?

    ++++++++++++++++++++++

    To be fair to Hue, you’re right about that.

    Palmer is a joke. I was schnookered, I admit.

  • Dakota

    126.inonewordraider Says:
    April 1st, 2013 at 12:03 pm
    dr_robert Says:
    April 1st, 2013 at 12:01 pm
    bill willaimson:

    “The reality is the Raiders are now handing their quarterback position to a 27-year old player who is totally unproven. He will be learning on the job, and it also means the Raiders don’t believe in third-year quarterback Terrelle Pryor yet.”
    ____________
    williamson obviously didn’t hear or doesn’t give credence to big mack’s assertion that they will compete

    believe in big reg, what choice do we have?

    ++++++++++++++

    Come on man, read between the lines. If cheap azz Reggie had reason to believe Pryor could handle being a starting NFL QB you really believe he would have traded for a $5 million dollar a year backup, and would have been scouting the college QBs for the upcoming draft?

    Reggie has zero faith in Pryor, otherwise we would never have made this trade, and we would have signed a dirt-cheap vet QB as backup.

    Reggie has to say stuff like that because it is our new mantra or something…..it is lip service….it is what is expected of him to say. Reggie believes in Matt Flynn. Reggie does not believe in Pryor being more than the cheap backup QB to his starter Matt Flynn.

    Pryor will have to look awesome in the preseason to beat out Flynn….or Flynn’s bum elbow may help Pryor…..

  • SnBG

    I wish Carson Palmer well, wherever he goes.

    He came in under Hue, under awful conditions. He studies the playbook 24/7 for the team and for two years took shots because of our o-line miseries. He hung in there until it cost him broken ribs and he’s lucky his lungs weren’t punctured in the process. He restructured his salary for the sake of the team and I think he knows we’re going for defense in the draft.

    He’s a class act. I’ll root for him.
    ================

    couldnt win at cicny made demands then quit

    couldnt win in oakland made demands and is qutiing

    class act?
    **********

    lies constantly about everything?

    class act?
    ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
    Let’s see,,,,the bungles were horrible for most of the time Palmer was there and he had to put up with Chad J.Just for doing that says he’s tough. Came to the Raiders whom, it kills me to say, are worse than the Bungles. Then Reg says he has to compete for the qb spot. Ya, I’d want to stay also.

  • rudegruden

    So we save $6M by getting rid of Palmer and cost us 5.25M by picking up Flynn…so are we really only saving .75M for this year’s salary cap?

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    I see there are already people here that have flynn cemented as the starter next season.

    Too funny

  • severeraiderz

    Hue was the best coach we’ve had in a while but the absolute worst GM

  • mcfadden20.

    Fire DR NOW!

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    Dr Quack trying to get the bird schit off his face? Lmao.

  • Thec

    Guest123 Says:
    April 1st, 2013 at 12:11 pm
    Thec Says:
    April 1st, 2013 at 12:10 pm
    DA is going no where soon.

    Reg is going to be around a while as well.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    I gotta disagree with you on the first, second I agree with you.

    ++++++++==

    No worries Brethren…IMO, DA will do his full term of 3 years.

  • MiamiRaider78

    Matt FlynnStone lmao

  • Irish Boozer

    I don’t think that anybody is convinced that Pryor is a stud. I know I’m not. The point behind giving the keys to Pryor for the season would be to give him a chance. One game is not enough to judge him on. He has massive potential and freakish athletisism. He is a boom or bust type of player. If he booms, great! If he busts, oh well, we draft Johnny Football. As for Flynn, we have ourselves a servicable back up. Good for us.

  • StarUkulele

    The trade is expected to involve draft picks, with the Cardinals sending a mid-to late-round pick to Oakland for Palmer, and perhaps a late-round pick return.

    http://www.azcentral.com/sports/cardinals/articles/20130401oakland-raiders-trading-carson-palmer-arizona-cardinals.html?nclick_check=1

  • mcfadden20.

    :( sad loser mistic

  • mcfadden20.

    Hahahaha

  • rudegruden

    MiamiRaider78 Says:
    April 1st, 2013 at 12:13 pm
    Matt FlynnStone lmao
    ———
    LOL

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    Reggie has zero faith in Pryor, otherwise we would never have made this trade, and we would have signed a dirt-cheap vet QB as backup.
    —————
    Wacky.

  • Cervantes

    Let other teams overpay for players that don’t translate into wins.

    Kelly, Seymore, Huff, Wimbley, Lechler, Bryant, Shonnessy (I did like him before he got hurt), Brayton, Namdi, Gabril, DHB, Crappy WR from GB we signed for fort knox, Palmer, ALL THESE LOSERS

    How many wins did this thieves generate for us? 49 (Second lowest over 10 years)

    And some of you people are complaining that Reggie is cleaning house while quickly getting our Cap and actual $$$ spent in order in only 2 off-seasons?

    This guy really knows what he’s doing!

  • 00tt00

    We might as well let Reggie and DA tank this team so the Raiders are sold to new owner….. Only then will the Raiders truly get better…. When the new owner comes in the new owner will get his guy and Reggie and DA will be out the door and then we could become a good team

  • Thec

    MiamiRaider78 Says:
    April 1st, 2013 at 12:13 pm
    Matt FlynnStone lmao

    ++++++++===

    someone else posted this early, had to laugh…

  • Chris in NY

    What this all means:

    1. Carson Palmer looks at McKenzie and Allen and think this team is going to sukk ballz. Apparently taking less to play in Arizona behind a Swiss cheese o-line than what McKenzie was offering for Oakland.

    2. The Seahawks had no use for Flynn anymore at that salary.

    3. McKenzie and Allen have very little faith in Pryor.

  • Thec

    KoolKell Says:
    April 1st, 2013 at 12:15 pm
    Reggie has zero faith in Pryor, otherwise we would never have made this trade, and we would have signed a dirt-cheap vet QB as backup.
    —————
    Wacky.

    ++++++++++

    totally…

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Its also funny that somehow people think that trading for flynn equals “no faith in pryor”

    I dont see that at all.

    If reggie was so desperate for a qb instead of pryor why didnt he go out and get a big name qb?

    He sigend a back up qb, and gave up something fair for acquiring said back up.

    I dont see what that has to do with pryor other than putting both guys in a one year try out.

    They will either seize the job or be stop gaps until we get bridgewtwer or boyhd

  • M Lonetree

    the dull thwack of trading for JaChump’s LSU back-up seems an attempt to inflict upon fans a similar measure of brain trauma to which NFL players are subjected on a play by play basis. the only difference being that the players are well-compensated for losing their minds whereas fans are asked to pay for it.

  • MiamiRaider78

    Thec Says:
    April 1st, 2013 at 12:16 pm
    MiamiRaider78 Says:
    April 1st, 2013 at 12:13 pm
    Matt FlynnStone lmao

    ++++++++===

    someone else posted this early, had to laugh…
    ___________

    Yabba yabba doooo! Would only be hysterical if he plays barefoot, obviously.

  • Dakota

    160.RaiderRockstar Says:
    April 1st, 2013 at 12:11 pm
    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/01/raiders-on-the-hook-for-at-least-2-million-with-flynn/

    ***

    $2 mil guaranteed?

    peanuts

    ___________

    That is if we cut him. If he is on the roster he makes over $5 million unless Reggie got him to restructure.

  • Cervantes

    And from a management standpoint…

    Reggie just created the first significantly profitable season for all ownership in the last decade.

    He’s not going anywhere, anytime soon.

  • pcraider

    Shhhhhhh

    Don’t keep talking bad about Palmer. Az might not trade for him!!!

  • http://polarityblog.com Silverandblack666

    “What this all means:

    1. Carson Palmer looks at McKenzie and Allen and think this team is going to sukk ballz. Apparently taking less to play in Arizona behind a Swiss cheese o-line than what McKenzie was offering for Oakland.

    2. The Seahawks had no use for Flynn anymore at that salary.

    3. McKenzie and Allen have very little faith in Pryor”

    Great insight too bad it will be lost in translation to most of these dim wits.

    Some people can see whats going on here (you) and I agree with you 100%.

    But the blog is full of people who only what they want to see.

  • inonewordraider

    Come on man, read between the lines. If cheap azz Reggie had reason to believe Pryor could handle being a starting NFL QB you really believe he would have traded for a $5 million dollar a year backup, and would have been scouting the college QBs for the upcoming draft?
    _________________
    first of all explain to me why reggie is cheap a$$ if he offered terence newman, kevin burnett, vance walker, pat simms, and kevin roach MORE than other teams offerred them?

    secondly you don’t know what he’s paying flynn and what the contract implications are

    3rd you don’t know if palmer wanted to be here and if he was unwilling to take a paycut

    4th he sounds pretty firm about the fact that they’ll compete for the starting gig, let’s see how it plays out

  • Thec

    3. McKenzie and Allen have very little faith in Pryor.

    ++++++=====

    At this point Pryor is an unproven potential commodity to the org.

    McKenzie, has stated that Pryor will be competing for the job.

    It is wise knowing that you will be getting rid of CP, to bring in a competent QB, an a vet and let them all compete.

  • NGRaiderfan

    Regiie basically saying the same thing about flynn as he did pryor. A lit o potential but unproven. He said at the beginning that he was gonna bring in someone to compete and that is exactly what he did. He isnt giving flynn the job off two starts with a completely different team. This just means there will b comp at qb, and that palmer is gone. Thank god.

  • severeraiderz

    Glad Reggie traded for a young, capable, QB and didn’t just sign some cheap vet. Flynn will bring out the best in Pryor and hopefully vice versa

  • rudegruden

    Cervantes Says:
    April 1st, 2013 at 12:18 pm
    And from a management standpoint…

    Reggie just created the first significantly profitable season for all ownership in the last decade.

    He’s not going anywhere, anytime soon.

    ——-
    Thats great. We won’t win and no one will go to the games.

    We are the Oakland A’s of Football.

  • SnBG

    Severeraiderz Says:
    April 1st, 2013 at 12:12 pm
    Hue was the best coach we’ve had in a while but the absolute worst GM.
    ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
    Hue was 8-8 and had the balls to finally get the Raiders a top QB. Not to bad, just not sure about his wardrobe. I’m sure he’s having a cocktail right now and laughing at the Raiders.

  • Chris in NY

    00tt00 Says:
    April 1st, 2013 at 12:16 pm
    We might as well let Reggie and DA tank this team so the Raiders are sold to new owner….. Only then will the Raiders truly get better…. When the new owner comes in the new owner will get his guy and Reggie and DA will be out the door and then we could become a good team

    ————————-

    Most likely.

    Hopefully the next owner restores the team’s identity as well.

  • edward teach

    167.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    April 1st, 2013 at 12:12 pm
    I see there are already people here that have flynn cemented as the starter next season.

    Too funny

    ********************************************************

    Yep, and there are also people that have Pryor cemented as the starter next season.

    Also funny.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    I see the palmer worshipers are dizzy from the news.

    LOL

    they need to console each other by spinning the flynn trade to mean “no faith in pryor’

    wow that is funny

    palmer was the worst trade in pro sports history and you heard it here first before the trade ever happened

  • StarUkulele

    NEW POST!