275

Raiders announce Jenkins signing

The Raiders signed cornerback Mike Jenkins to the roster Tuesday, the second presumptive starter at that position in two weeks.

Last week, veteran Tracy Porter was signed to position that until then included only Phillip Adams, Brandian Ross and Chimdi Chekwa.

It’s the second time in two seasons Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie signed second-tier free agents who figured to be immediate starters. ESPN reported Jenkins agreed to terms with Oakland Monday.

Last season, Oakland signed Ron Bartell and Shawntae Spencer, who ended up as Week 1 starters. Neither worked out, as Bartell broke his shoulder blade in the opener, missing several weeks before returning to the roster and then eventually being released, and Spencer sustained a severe mid-foot strain in Week 2 that ended his season.

Jenkins is a veteran of 71 games and 48 starts for the Dallas Cowboys. He was a Pro Bowl performer in 2009, a year after being a first-round selection out of South Florida in 2008.

Last season, Jenkins played in 13 games with two starts as his role was diminished after Dallas signed free agent Brandon Carr and drafted Morris Claiborne in the first round.

  • Share/Bookmark

Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Coming out of college, where they both played at elite BCS schools (Houston at Texas, Floyd at Florida), Houston was bigger (6-3 305 vs. 6-3 297), slightly faster (4.84 forty, 1.68 10-yard split vs, 4.92 forty, 1.68 10-yard split), and more bounce (33.5 vert and 114 inch broad jump, vs. Floyd 30 vert and 106 broad jump). Floyd did not compete in the bench (red flag) compared to Houston’s 30 reps. Houston measured 33 inch arms, compared to 31.75 for the relatively short-armed Floyd (top DTs are usually 33 inch+).

    Aside from Houston’s overall better physical make up, he also had better production, with 136 tackles, 35.5 tackles for a loss and 14.0 sacks compared to 92-19.5-4.5 for Floyd.

    Lamarr Houston was a great pick at #44 in 2010.

    Unless we want to be drafting a poor man’s Lamarr Houston, why would we use the #3 pick on Floyd? Hopefully KC or Jax over-reach for him.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$

    Excellent post!

  • HGDaddy

    Christopher Hansen ‏@ChrisHansenNFL 7m

    I thought the #Raiders should have released McClain last year, but I was wrong. Better this way.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Charlie Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 9:55 am
    O

    Light years ahead of Seymour, Kelly, Houston and Shaugnessy.

    Massive upgrade. Heck all four of our starters can at least practice!
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Backups from other teams are a “Massive upgrade over 2 PBers and the best DE against the run according to HOF Seymour”?
    Let’s wait and watch them play before declaring them a “Massive upgrade”

    Put down the koolaid.

  • Follow the B@uceman

    Dr_robert Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 9:51 am
    B@uce–u basically act like “I don’t like that guy cuz he sucks so I say we are gonna draft so-and-so. But b@uce’s opinion aunt sh1t. U can’t see the writing on the wall. Reggie signs these guys for a reason, whether u think they can play or not.

    Sims is a good player. Walker has started a lot of games. Barnes was a starter. Do was carter at the end.

    Ur desire to get star means nothing. Reggie will take who he wants and u will have to deal with it.
    *****************************8

    Yeah Reggie signed Bartell and Spencer along with Tollefson for a reason too right? LOL

    Sims is not a good player….just average run of the mill backup…he never started a full season…for obvious reasons…he not that good

    Walker has not started alot of games in his career you liar! Barnes sucks as a starter and everyone knows it except your dumbass. Carter is washed up

    Star fills something we havent had since Sam Adams left so please shut up

    Your desire to hate on Pryor wont change the fact that if he wins the QB competition HE WILL START

  • DKnight007

    Charlie Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 9:46 am
    Knight

    I would love to see us get someone’s second rounder with a swap of first rounders.

    I doubt that will happen but it would be a huge help to us.

    ^^^^^^^
    Depends which player falls to us at #3.

    If one of the tackles falls to #3 than the phones will be ringing.

    If Geno or Jordan are there the phones might be ringing also.

  • Raider_D

    Raider O Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 9:59 am

    Charlie Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 9:55 am
    O

    Light years ahead of Seymour, Kelly, Houston and Shaugnessy.

    Massive upgrade. Heck all four of our starters can at least practice!
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Backups from other teams are a “Massive upgrade over 2 PBers and the best DE against the run according to HOF Seymour”?
    Let’s wait and watch them play before declaring them a “Massive upgrade”

    Put down the koolaid.
    ————————-

    Pbers don’t do much sitting out injured like seymour and kelly was useless at this point. I would say of course wait to call them a massive upgrade but they cant be worse then someone who didnt play and someone who didnt want to.

  • SnBG

    Put down the koolaid.
    ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
    Ken Kesey had a great recipe for Kool Aid

  • Follow the B@uceman

    Raider O Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 9:52 am
    Houston
    Walker
    Sims
    Carter
    ?!?!

    God help us.
    ***************

    Yeah not good at all….thats why Reggie will fix that in draft….all those guys you named are backups except Houston and he belongs at UT

  • Raider-in-PA

    How do you think Reese will get used this year?

    I’d like to see him come in at TB as a change of pace to McFadden and keep the defense on it’s toes fearing the swing pass or screen to him..

    Do you think his days at FB are in the past??

  • RaiderRockstar

    Friday = McClain released
    Monday = Mike Jenkins signed
    Tuesday = Andre Carter re-signed

    Reggie is on a roll!

    I’m assuming waiving #55 actually SAVED us money, contrary to the reports I’ve read for the past 2 years ??

  • RaiderRockstar
  • DKnight007

    Follow the B@uceman Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 10:03 am
    Raider O Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 9:52 am
    Houston
    Walker
    Sims
    Carter
    ?!?!

    God help us.
    ***************

    Yeah not good at all….thats why Reggie will fix that in draft….all those guys you named are backups except Houston and he belongs at UT

    ^^^^^^^^
    I think Walker is going to be a starter here and will be a pleasant surprise.

    Fans in the Atl were pissed they didn’t keep him ahead of Jerry.

  • SnBG

    Kelly…idiot penalty machine
    Seymour….old and tired, just wanted to sit on the couch eating potato chips and collecting checks.

  • DT42

    Charlie,

    we just paid Matt Flynn, a guy who was outworked by a 5th RD rookie. To me that’s a major character issue. Rock Cartwright, MM, and DHB had no character issues. MM and DHB were drafted higher than they should have been but that was not their fault. They signed with other teams for reasonable contracts.

    How did our team get better by them leaving? We flat out do not have the draft picks to rely on that as a way to rebuild this team. So why are we letting all of these players go without getting something in return? And Cap relief means nothing if your not going to spend it. And RM will not spend it.

  • Follow the B@uceman

    DKnight007 Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 9:50 am
    Follow the B@uceman Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 9:43 am
    Football Coach Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 9:41 am
    Shariff Floyd to Lamarr Houston Comparison:

    Coming out of college, where they both played at elite BCS schools (Houston at Texas, Floyd at Florida), Houston was bigger (6-3 305 vs. 6-3 297), slightly faster (4.84 forty, 1.68 10-yard split vs, 4.92 forty, 1.68 10-yard split), and more bounce (33.5 vert and 114 inch broad jump, vs. Floyd 30 vert and 106 broad jump). Floyd did not compete in the bench (red flag) compared to Houston’s 30 reps. Houston measured 33 inch arms, compared to 31.75 for the relatively short-armed Floyd (top DTs are usually 33 inch+).

    Aside from Houston’s overall better physical make up, he also had better production, with 136 tackles, 35.5 tackles for a loss and 14.0 sacks compared to 92-19.5-4.5 for Floyd.

    Lamarr Houston was a great pick at #44 in 2010.

    Unless we want to be drafting a poor man’s Lamarr Houston, why would we use the #3 pick on Floyd? Hopefully KC or Jax over-reach for him.
    ***********************************************

    Lamarr needs to be the UT….shoulda been since he was rookie

    Imagine Star and Houston as your DT combo….run STUFFED

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Crazy how Houston is a better physical measurement player and was a more productive player coming out ahead of Floyd, but Floyd is considered a top pick this year??

    Weird..weird.

    See how the draftniks alwats overhype and overrate some DT that they say should be a top 10/top 5 pick and they usually wind being a bust?

    Crazy…
    *******************************

    Floyd is a one year wonder….dont like guys like that

  • Football Coach

    Lamarr Houston should be a 3 technique DT. He has been playing out of position his whole career since the Raiders had few DEs and had Seymour and Bryant as 3 techniques. Now that Seymour and Bryant are gone, Houston should move to 3 technique. Walker and Sims can rotate at the shaded nose in the 4-3. Star would be an upgrade there, but it is not a huge hole. With Houston sliding to 3 tech, there is very little reason to take Floyd at 3 unless we want to keep playing Houston out of position, which makes no sense. Raiders need elite edge players badly. When was the last time they were able to get a pass rush from the edges with no blitz? Burgess years 2005-2007? Has there been anyone legit since?

  • Follow the B@uceman

    DKnight007 Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 10:06 am
    Follow the B@uceman Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 10:03 am
    Raider O Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 9:52 am
    Houston
    Walker
    Sims
    Carter
    ?!?!

    God help us.
    ***************

    Yeah not good at all….thats why Reggie will fix that in draft….all those guys you named are backups except Houston and he belongs at UT

    ^^^^^^^^
    I think Walker is going to be a starter here and will be a pleasant surprise.

    Fans in the Atl were pissed they didn’t keep him ahead of Jerry.
    *************************

    He not starting over Houston……Lamarr is not playing LDE again…..cant get any pressure on QB….he is outta position…Walker will be apart of rotation no doubt but he will be our desmond bryant this year

  • theghostronin79

    Lamarr needs to be the UT….shoulda been since he was rookie

    Imagine Star and Houston as your DT combo….run STUFFED

    ===========

    Plus, they could collaps and penetrate a pocket from the FRONT….. A’La John Randall style…

  • The_Judge37

    1960AutumnWind Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 9:40 am
    Raider-in-PA Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 9:34 am
    Who will be our returner next season?
    ******************
    J. Ford is 100% and was a great returner before injuries.
    ———–

    Ford was a KR, but he doesn’t solve our PR problem. I think Reggie should look to bring Chris Carr back

  • DKnight007

    Star, Jordan, Ansah or Fisher or trade down baby!

  • PlunkforHOF

    Whats up Raider fans and others?

    I would really like us to re-sign Veldeer next year, but at worst could we slap a 1st round tender on him and get the draft pick?

  • DKnight007

    If Star is not drafted than Walker and Houston starting inside.

  • Follow the B@uceman

    Football Coach Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 10:08 am
    Lamarr Houston should be a 3 technique DT. He has been playing out of position his whole career since the Raiders had few DEs and had Seymour and Bryant as 3 techniques. Now that Seymour and Bryant are gone, Houston should move to 3 technique. Walker and Sims can rotate at the shaded nose in the 4-3. Star would be an upgrade there, but it is not a huge hole. With Houston sliding to 3 tech, there is very little reason to take Floyd at 3 unless we want to keep playing Houston out of position, which makes no sense. Raiders need elite edge players badly. When was the last time they were able to get a pass rush from the edges with no blitz? Burgess years 2005-2007? Has there been anyone legit since?
    **********************************

    Correct on Houston….his skill set is that of a UT. I think he is a borderline pro bowler there…Star is complete upgrade. Ummm as far as Burgess goes….that dont count for schit because he wimped out and didnt wanna play RDE……I need a RDE that can get 12-14 sacks a years…..that type of guy is the nightmare for offenses…why you think LTs get paid so much?

  • The_Judge37

    PlunkforHOF Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 10:10 am
    Whats up Raider fans and others?

    I would really like us to re-sign Veldeer next year, but at worst could we slap a 1st round tender on him and get the draft pick?
    ——

    Or hit him with the Tag, Important thing is that Veldheer has to play well. I have little doubt he’ll be good this year but looking buff doesn’t mean much.

  • SnBG

    ^^^^^^^^
    I think Walker is going to be a starter here and will be a pleasant surprise.
    ……………………
    I don’t think he’s really good enough to be a pleasant surprise. There’s no one else right now

  • Follow the B@uceman

    DKnight007 Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 10:10 am
    If Star is not drafted than Walker and Houston starting inside.
    *************************

    Two 300 lbers in middle? Stop it….we will get punked vs run again….cant have two UTs starting again in middle….this is why we are embarrassing…this sort of attitude will not be tolerated anymore here

    If Star aint drafted Reggie will get another one of the NTs in draft……no way here ignores this

  • Football Coach

    Follow the B@uceman Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 10:11 am

    Football Coach Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 10:08 am
    Lamarr Houston should be a 3 technique DT. He has been playing out of position his whole career since the Raiders had few DEs and had Seymour and Bryant as 3 techniques. Now that Seymour and Bryant are gone, Houston should move to 3 technique. Walker and Sims can rotate at the shaded nose in the 4-3. Star would be an upgrade there, but it is not a huge hole. With Houston sliding to 3 tech, there is very little reason to take Floyd at 3 unless we want to keep playing Houston out of position, which makes no sense. Raiders need elite edge players badly. When was the last time they were able to get a pass rush from the edges with no blitz? Burgess years 2005-2007? Has there been anyone legit since?
    **********************************

    Correct on Houston….his skill set is that of a UT. I think he is a borderline pro bowler there…Star is complete upgrade. Ummm as far as Burgess goes….that dont count for schit because he wimped out and didnt wanna play RDE……I need a RDE that can get 12-14 sacks a years…..that type of guy is the nightmare for offenses…why you think LTs get paid so much?

    ********************************************

    I hear you and not saying Burgess was in an elite class, he is just the best edge pass rusher the Raiders have had in the past decade, which actually says quite a bit. This whole situation is why I am banging the drum for Ansah if he is there. Ansah is a risky pick at 3 because he is so raw, but his upside is very high in a major position of need for the Raiders franchise.

  • severeraiderz

    Houston will absolutely be our LDE next year and will slide inside for obvious passing situations. Walker is a solid signing and Sims is the kinda space eater that people on here have been pining for. He is as good as the John Henderson on his last leg that we had for a period of time

  • Charlie

    Burgess was injury prone and not worth the money we paid him.
    Why do you think the Eagles let him go????

  • realtruraider

    Gdog Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 8:59 am
    I started reading up on Ted Thompson. Understanding Thompson will help make sense of some of the moves that RM has pulled since he has been here. I think some the Reggie apologists think that if you are against RM it’s just because you miss Al. That’s not true. After looking at what Thompson has done I think that it’s not possible to replicate what Green Bay has done without a lot of luck and extra draft picks. Things just happened to fall into place for Green Bay. They had 12 picks in Thompson’s first year and the luxury of having two once in a generation QB’s fall into their laps. That’s not going to happen here.

    >>>

    I am trying to make the same point… everybody seems to think that if reggie simply emulates the GB business model, he will have the same results.

    I am trying to point out that is not a sure thing AT ALL.

    Number one, we don’t even have a clear starting QB yet, let alone a Favre or Rodgers. Two, GB always had great coaching, and we are flailing away at that too.. last year was mostly a grease fire.

    Third, I don’t see it as a given that Reggie will be great at drafting. His only success so far was undrafted Streater. Granted he was hamstrung last year with missing picks, but Reggie needs to DOMINATE the draft in a few weeks before I get anywhere close to being comfortable with him.

    If he uses his 3rd pick on defense without trading down, I think I will lose it…

    ——————————————————-

    LOL, obviously he can’t do it the exact same way as GB and he obviously knows this. He is actually signing other teams free agents, something GB rarely does. He knows he can’t run this team the same way as GB yet, but if you want to know how he will and wants to run this team in the near future than looking at how GB does it is just common knowledge because he has said that’s how he is goin to do it.

    I wasn’t liking some of the moves at first and was questioning what Reggie’s vision was, but the more I found out about the “greenbay way” the more it became clear and its even more clear that he is doing it a little different than GB at this point in part because he has to.

  • Follow the B@uceman

    4-3 in the middle

    NT= Fat lane clogger who can take up double teams allowing the other players to make plays vs the run as well as freeing up the RDE to go one on one vs LT and the UT vs the RG

    UT= better pass rusher of the DTs and benefits from the NT taking up the G and C….he is the penetrator

    If we dont use this model we will see more of the same

  • Football Coach

    Not saying Burgess was a stud or anything, just pointing him out to show how the Raiders have had no edge rusher in years.

    Burgess had 16 sacks for Oakland in 2005, 11 in 2006 and 8 in 2005. Have the Raiders had an edge player with 8 sacks since then? I do not believe so.

  • Football Coach

    **Meant Burgess had 8 sacks in 2007, typo.

  • The_Judge37

    Football Coach Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 10:18 am
    Not saying Burgess was a stud or anything, just pointing him out to show how the Raiders have had no edge rusher in years.

    Burgess had 16 sacks for Oakland in 2005, 11 in 2006 and 8 in 2005. Have the Raiders had an edge player with 8 sacks since then? I do not believe so.
    ——–

    Wimbley with 9

  • Follow the B@uceman

    Severeraiderz Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 10:16 am
    Houston will absolutely be our LDE next year and will slide inside for obvious passing situations. Walker is a solid signing and Sims is the kinda space eater that people on here have been pining for. He is as good as the John Henderson on his last leg that we had for a period of time
    **********************

    No way will we accept 4.5 sacks from a DE….Lamarr doesnt have the pass rush moves necessary and was only outta position because Seymour and Kelly were ahead of him….how do I know this? He told me so face to face last May! Walker is a solid signing because he fills in for Desmond Bryant. Sims is a backup plain and simple and dont compare him to John Henderson…are you nuts? Henderson has been part of tremendous run defenses as the anchor of the Dline

    Folks we have to stop thinking everyone we sign is some good signing….Sims is nothing more than a backup and is not good

  • Follow the B@uceman

    Football Coach and others….if you dont have a weakside pass rusher i.e. RDE, then you dont have schit for a pass rush

  • Charlie

    DT

    Other than Wheeler and Bryant no player that has left the Raiders has signed for more money if they have even signed at all.(Bryant assuming he can even stay out of jail and Wheeler have yet to ear a penny on their new deals.
    Think about it, Bryant could not start on a bad defense for four years under three different coaches and Indy also let Wheeler walk-why???).

    Reggie has been spot on.

    Actually the trend started last year with Bush and Wimbley. Both guys were bad values for their new teams.

    The Raiders have had really bad football players. Forget about the fact that they were overpaid.

    The guys we have let go were not very good.

  • Football Coach

    The_Judge37 Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 10:19 am

    Football Coach Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 10:18 am
    Not saying Burgess was a stud or anything, just pointing him out to show how the Raiders have had no edge rusher in years.

    Burgess had 16 sacks for Oakland in 2005, 11 in 2006 and 8 in 2005. Have the Raiders had an edge player with 8 sacks since then? I do not believe so.
    ——–

    Wimbley with 9

    *******************************************

    Not sure how I could forget Wimbley… LOL good call. That was a good trade but a terrible contract. FYI for anyone interested, Wimbley had 6 sacks last year for Tennessee.

  • Marks hair

    Reggies setting us up to take the bpa.. that probably means a trade down.

  • SnBG

    Houston can be good as a 3 tech guy in the 43. Not to great in 34 ,he isn’t real versatile that’s why you need Star to clog that middle and bring pressure from the inside. DA wants a Hybrid D. That’s why he will take Star of Floyd. Floyds Ali arms did just fine against top competition. Star wold be better but Floyd has more speed

  • Football Coach

    Follow the B@uceman Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 10:22 am

    Football Coach and others….if you dont have a weakside pass rusher i.e. RDE, then you dont have schit for a pass rush

    ***********************************************

    Yes in a 4-3 defense to be effective, you need a RDE (or weakside DE) who can explode, pin the ear and get to the QB. This is why I believe Ansah is the best pick. He has the traits to be an elite NFL DE. He is raw so it is a boom-bust pick. But elite 4-3 rush ends don’t come along often and they cost A LOT if you have to sign them.

  • http://goducks.com Sir RaiderDuck, OMS

    Marks Hair Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 10:23 am
    Reggies setting us up to take the bpa.. that probably means a trade down.

    ====================================

    I read a rumor somewhere saying Reggie might trade out of the first round altogether, which means we’d end up with a ton of second and third-rounders.

  • guest123

    Follow the B@uceman Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 10:17 am
    4-3 in the middle

    NT= Fat lane clogger who can take up double teams allowing the other players to make plays vs the run as well as freeing up the RDE to go one on one vs LT and the UT vs the RG

    UT= better pass rusher of the DTs and benefits from the NT taking up the G and C….he is the penetrator

    If we dont use this model we will see more of the same

    ^^^^^^^^
    Yup, a big tree trunk over center that occupies 2 guys and will allow the LB’s to see some daylight to cut thru and make plays in the offensive backfield. NT will create havoc if he’s good. Star is a young N’gata. He will make a probowler out of Houston and the LB’s will start ringing up the stats.

    Star: endorsed at three!

  • dr_robert

    B@uce u ignorant rock head. Walker started 9 games last year. So it u who lies. Sims has started 23 games and has had injuries ur there would be more.

    U don’t get it. It doesn’t matter what u think if Barnes or any if them. Reggie signed them for a reason and u just can’t understand that.

    There has been no indication that Houston is playing DT. None. He has been and likely will continue to be LDE. It’s just fact.

    Ur just a fan with ideas how u would do things.

    But u have no ability to see what is ACTUALLY happening.

    Reggie just ensured that there is no automatic need pick. He will look at trades and pick whoever is BPA on his board.

    Cry all u want to about how sims and walker are backups and Barnes sucks. Oh well. They’re here.

    And we aren’t picking star. Get over it. We didn’t attend his pro day. That means he’s off the board due to health risks. Reggie isn’t picking a guy that high with any concerns at all.

    Find a new star to love.

    If Pryor wins the qb battle, he will start. I am on record as saying it won’t happen.

    But I’m not a rock head like u, so I don’t come in here telling everyone “I don’t like our qb’s. we are picking geno cuz that’s what I want.”

  • Football Coach

    Floyd had 4.5 career sacks and under 100 career tackles so I am a little surprised about his draft stock being so high. He has decent measurables, and I like the motor I have seen, but decent measurables + decent productivity = top 5 pick??

  • Charlie

    How many tackles did Wimbley have?
    Very poor value for the Titans. He was a pathetic value for the Raiders with the ridiculous contract he got form Mr. Davis.

    Another situation guy. Sacks are only part of the game.

    You have to run and stop the runas well.

  • guest123

    Sir RaiderDuck, OMS Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 10:26 am
    Marks Hair Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 10:23 am
    Reggies setting us up to take the bpa.. that probably means a trade down.

    ====================================

    I read a rumor somewhere saying Reggie might trade out of the first round altogether, which means we’d end up with a ton of second and third-rounders.

    ^^^^^^^^

    what means “a ton”?

    If we get multiple 2nd and third rounders in this draft, that would be awesome. Lot of good value in this draft in the 2nd and 3rd round.

  • bcz24

    I’m assuming waiving #55 actually SAVED us money, contrary to the reports I’ve read for the past 2 years ??
    ****************
    Saved us CASH this year and in the long run, cost us about 1 million towards the CAP over keeping him this year. Obviously keeping him wasn’t going to happen.

  • Follow the B@uceman

    SnBG Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 10:25 am
    Houston can be good as a 3 tech guy in the 43. Not to great in 34 ,he isn’t real versatile that’s why you need Star to clog that middle and bring pressure from the inside. DA wants a Hybrid D. That’s why he will take Star of Floyd. Floyds Ali arms did just fine against top competition. Star wold be better but Floyd has more speed
    **********************************

    One fkin year…come on man……and we talking a guy under 300 lbs is clogging the middle? Hell no to Floyd….he like Ansah is overrated

  • guest123

    Best combo of run sealer and pass rusher in the 4-3 set is Bjorn Werner, FSU. Can do it all with intensity and nonstop motor.