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Report: Carter back to Raiders

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, April 9th, 2013 at 11:02 am in Oakland Raiders.

The NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport is reporting the Raiders have brought back defensive end Andre Carter.

Carter, 34, showed he had some burst with limtied snaps last season in 12 games and was vocal in his desire to return to the Raiders at the en dof the season.

Carter is a departure from the Raiders’ youth movement, but was considered a leader and a positive influence on younger players by the coaching staff.

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  • RaidingTexas

    Dr_robert Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 11:47 am

    The DT’s were fine. They disrupted. They took on double teams and stood their ground.

    ——————————————

    Doug Martin just laughed so hard he pulled an abdominal muscle.

  • SnBG

    Dr_robert Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 12:02 pm
    SnBG Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 11:51 am
    IT ALL STARTS WITH THE D LINE AND O LINE . Got it, if not get it
    ************

    not really. it’s important. for sure. but u need all the parts.

    reggie lasy year said “our d-line is stout”.

    reggie knows the game. that’s why he fired the LB coach and brought in 3 new guys.

    he gets it.

    we already have the dt’s in place. is houston a better dt than de? maybe. but regardless of b@uce’s personal convo with houston (LMAFAO!), he has been a DE and the re appears to be no plan to move him.

    with carter’s (underrated) signing, the defense simply lacks safeties, which i presume is the next order of business.

    the offense has all it’s parts in place but a TE and vet qb.

    then it’s draft time, where reggie will work trades for more picks and get the BPA on his board, not b@uce’s.

    remember the plan. fill the roster with as many quality parts and let them compete.

    how come all the guys i say are good, are valued by other teams, while the guys missdick and b@uce dislike, are also those same guys?

    do they not get tired of being wrong?

    the D-line has had quality linemen for years. we have had horrendous LB’s.

    mcclain was responsible for a ton of problems, simply cuz he was a ghost. he hardly counted at all.

    thomas howard? horrid.

    name a GOOD lb we have had in the last decade. only morrison ever got pro bowl votes.

    now look at the linemen. lots of pro bowl votes there.

    pay attention to what the real pros and experts say. they’ll let u know who’s good.

    or just watch. understand the positions and how they’re supposed to be played. watch each play a few times, watching each player.

    did they do their job? who should have made that play? watch the players!
    ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
    Were you talking to me or just ranting in general?????

  • R8ER MIKE

    1960AutumnWind Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 12:10 pm
    Silverandblack666 Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 12:07 pm
    ““That’s not completely true, i’ve seen Full Backs throw Tommy to the ground also.”

    A gust of wind threw TK to the ground!”

    He must have been one of those guys who thought if he had a dirty uniform the coach would think he was playing hard.
    ********************************
    None of this explains all the offside penalities though. Do you think it was becaue he was punchy after getting knocked over so much? Maybe he just liked hearing his number called?

    ************************
    maybe…. just maybe.. Kelly and Barnes are right on time and EVERYBODY else is just late !!

  • Marks hair

    Peter Dinklege is a national treasure.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Milliner is a great player and he is a freakish athlete. You need to have both if you are not a QB or LT to justify being a top 3 pick.

  • 1960AutumnWind

    666

    If you do not believe Jesus existed then you should throw out people like Alexander the Great as well based on historical evidence. We can argue about exactly who Jesus was and his claims but to say he never existed is flat out ignorant and you have to be given over to conspiratorial web sites to even build a case like that.

    Under the known morays of history the probablility of Jesus not existing is extremely low. In terms of impact (the fact you have 666 in your screen name for example as well as the date of the post!) it is flat out comical to deny somehting like this.

  • dr_robert

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 12:12 pm
    “Silverandblack666 Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 11:55 am
    Jesus never existed Dr Robert you need to come to terms with it.
    ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
    Oh yes he did”

    You believe and have faith that he did but there is no proof.

    ************

    proof is everywhere for the intelligent that put their little egos aside and don’t wish to be intentionally ignorant.

    ur use of the 666 number, while saying God and the devil don’t exist, show that ur desire is to stir things up and get negative attention. u wanna lash out at people and make them hurt.

    it would seem u have been hurt. abuse? ur mad at the world for not loving u.

    secretly, ur mad at God. but it was the devil who hurt u.

    laugh if u want. i suspect it’s true.

    it’s ok. God would help u heal. help u be happy.

    it’s not too late for ya.

  • http://polarityblog.com Silverandblack666

    “None of this explains all the offside penalities though. Do you think it was becaue he was punchy after getting knocked over so much? Maybe he just liked hearing his number called?”

    Probably a nervous twitch as a reaction to getting his as handed to him on every down. Its odd watching a 280lb guard just “DOMINATE” him, it was hard to watch.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Our DL and LBs have been an issue for years. Have fun arguing about which unit was worse?

  • dr_robert

    RaidingTexas Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 12:13 pm
    Dr_robert Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 11:47 am

    The DT’s were fine. They disrupted. They took on double teams and stood their ground.

    ——————————————

    Doug Martin just laughed so hard he pulled an abdominal muscle.

    *********

    perfect example. mcclain was non-existent.

  • 00tt00

    New Raiders CB Mike Jenkins has just one interception over his past 38 games.
    He has only two picks since 2009. Unlike other frequent burn victims in the secondary, Jenkins isn’t even smoothing things over with the occasional big play. Jenkins is penciled in as a starter in Oakland. For his part, Cowboys owner Jerry Jones insists Jenkins’ Dallas tenure wasn’t a failure. “We got starting time out of (him),” Jones bargained. “That’s not enough, but (he’s not a bust).”
    Related: Cowboys
    Source: Dallas Morning News Apr 9 – 2:02 PM

  • DKnight007

    dr_robert Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 12:11 pm
    Sir RaiderDuck, OMS Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 11:55 am
    Dr_robert Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 11:47 am

    The DT’s were fine. They disrupted. They took on double teams and stood their ground.

    ======================================

    NO THEY DIDN’T. Kelly and Seymour were consistently shoved aside one-on-one by a bunch of anonymous guards and centers, week in and week out. Your wanting to think they’re “elite” doesn’t make it so.

    ************

    who said elite? don’t put words in my mouth unless u wanna be a liar like missdick.

    they were good. seymour hardly played and was hurt. he wasn’t as effective.

    kelly? constantly double teamed.

    they were neither shoved aside nor thrown around.

    it’s not easy when 650 pounds of “no-name” (doesn’t exist in the nfl) players are slamming into into u.

    like i said. i watch the plays multiple times, watching every player. and I KNOW WHAT EACH PLAYER IS SUPPOSED TO DO ON EACH PLAY.

    mcclain was possibly the worst LB i’ve ever seen in the nfl. even college. it’s like he was on drugs. i mentioned that possibility during the season.

    he acted like he wasn’t all there.

    why have so many of our linemen received pro bowl votes compared to our LB’s>

    why do our safeties make so many tackles.

    it’s the linebackers.

    star and floyd are both good players.

    but reggie know u don’t “build inside out”.

    interior linemen are easier to find than elite edge players.

    a RDE is FAR more important than a NT.

    a LT or a RT are far more important than a G or C.

    speed/power combos are difficult to find.

    ^^^^^^^^^^
    Another reason why drafting a NT/DT or Guard with a top 5 pick is more often than not a big NO NO!

  • 1960AutumnWind

    Raider O Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 12:16 pm
    Milliner is a great player and he is a freakish athlete. You need to have both if you are not a QB or LT to justify being a top 3 pick.
    ***********************************
    He is a top 3 pic but not a Raider need right now. If going BPA that is probably who we should pic but I am hoping someone wants him or fisher bad enough to trade up.

  • R8ER MIKE

    weed and whisky are proof god loves us !!!

  • REALLIONAIREB

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 12:17 pm
    “None of this explains all the offside penalities though. Do you think it was becaue he was punchy after getting knocked over so much? Maybe he just liked hearing his number called?”

    Probably a nervous twitch as a reaction to getting his as handed to him on every down. Its odd watching a 280lb guard just “DOMINATE” him, it was hard to watch.

    ——

    U ready to pay off your bet??

  • papertiger418

    Jesus did exist; Nietzsche even referred to him as one of the best men who had ever lived.

    I believe 666 is a reference to the diabolical Roman Emperor, Nero.

  • http://polarityblog.com Silverandblack666

    “then why use the 666 thing? just trying to bother people?”

    I wanted to be just “SilverandBlack” but it was gone and so was

    SilverandBlack32

    SilverandBlack13

    So I chose this one because I knew no one had it.

    Process of elimination…..I have had this moniker since 2004 in here.

  • papertiger418

    Does anyone else think that Reggie organizes his draft board like an IHOP menu, with different combos and whatnot?

  • Marks hair

    4 of our dline from last yr are gone.. thank god

  • Mahlhavoc

    “Silverandblack666 Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 11:55 am
    Jesus never existed Dr Robert you need to come to terms with it.
    ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
    Oh yes he did”
    ——————————–
    You believe and have faith that he did but there is no proof.

    ————————

    ++++++++++++++++
    In the case for Christ, the value of evidence, particularly from hostile sources, is tremendous. Hostile sources are considered to be those who were definitely not followers of Christ; i.e., people who clearly were not out to propagate favorable belief in him. The fact that hostile sources cite Christ, as well as cite other New Testament personages and events, is evidence for both the existence of Christ and the general veracity of the Bible.

    The important point of hearing the corroborating testimony by non-Christians writing in Christ’s own era, and shortly thereafter, is simply the acknowledgment of Christ’s existence. Naturally, because all of the proceeding testimony comes from people who did not conclude him to be God, it does not deal with Christ as favorably or thoroughly as writings by those who did.

    It is also categorically true that proof of Jesus’ divinity will not be found in writings that qualify as hostile. This is because if some ancient writer had seen and confirmed his miracles or realized his fulfillment of prophecy and then recorded “Yes, Christ actually did this or that which his followers speak of”, that writer would no longer be considered hostile by today’s skeptic. Right?

    Therefore, only writers who reference Christ offhandedly or in a negative way are sources whom skeptics are likely to accept as neutral observers. Hence we are left with a collection of writings that, though by nature lack clear confirmation of Christ’s deity, do at least confirm he walked the earth for even his enemies to see.

    – FLAVIUS JOSEPHUS

    Josephus was a Jewish historian who was born around AD 38. He served Roman commander Vespasian in Jerusalem until the city’s destruction in AD 70. Josephus personally believed Vespasian to be Israel’s promised Messiah. When Vespasian later became emperor of Rome, Josephus served under him as court historian. 2 In AD 93, Josephus finished his work Antiquities of the Jews in which at least three passages specifically confirm portions of Scripture:

    But to some of the Jews the destruction of Herod’s army seemed to be divine vengeance, and certainly a just vengeance, for his treatment of John, surnamed the Baptist. For Herod had put him to death, though he was a good man and had exhorted the Jews to lead righteous lives, to practice justice towards their fellows and piety towards God, and so doing to join in baptism. 3

    …convened the judges of the Sanhedrin and brought before them a man named James, the brother of Jesus who was called the Christ, and certain others. He accused them of having transgressed the law and delivered them up to be stoned. 4

    At this time there was a wise man who was called Jesus. And his conduct was good, and [he] was known to be virtuous. And many people from among the Jews and the other nations became his disciples. Pilate condemned him to be crucified and to die. And those who had become his disciples did not abandon his discipleship. They reported that he had appeared to them three days after his crucifixion and that he was alive;… 5

    – PLINIUS SECUNDUS (Pliny the Younger)

    Pliny was the governor of Bithynia in Asia Minor. Much of his correspondence has survived including a particular letter written circa AD 112 to the Roman emperor Trajan. This letter does not reference Christ directly, but it does establish several beliefs and practices of early Christians. This includes their loyalty to Christ even when it cost them their lives. Pliny’s letter states:

    In the meantime, the method I have observed towards those who have been denounced to me as Christians is this: I interrogated them whether they were in fact Christians; if they confessed it, I repeated the question twice, adding the threat of capital punishment; if they still persevered, I ordered them to be executed.

    …They affirmed, however, that the whole of their guilt, or their error, was that they were in the habit of meeting on a certain fixed day before it was light, when they sang in alternate verses a hymn to Christ, as to a god, and bound themselves by a solemn oath, not to perform any wicked deed, never to commit any fraud, theft or adultery, never to falsify their word, nor deny a trust when they should be called upon to make it good; after which it was their custom to separate, and then reassemble to partake of food – but food of an ordinary and innocent kind. 6

    – CORNELIUS TACITUS

    Tacitus was a senator under Emperor Vespasian and later became governor of Asia. Around AD 116 in his work entitled Annals, he wrote of Emperor Nero and a fire which had swept Rome in AD 64:

    Consequently, to get rid of the report, Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilate, and a most mischievous superstition thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome… 7

    – GAIUS SUETONIUS TRANQUILLAS

    Suetonius was a chief secretary to Emperor Hadrian writing around AD 120 in his work Life of Claudius:

    Because the Jews at Rome caused continuous disturbances at the instigation of Chrestus, he expelled them from the city. 8

    – LUCIAN

    Lucian, the Greek satirist, wrote this rather scathing attack in The Death of Peregrine circa AD 170:

    The Christians, you know, worship a man to this day – the distinguished personage who introduced their novel rites, and was crucified on that account… You see, these misguided creatures start with the general conviction that they are immortal for all time, which explains the contempt of death and voluntary self-devotion which are so common among them; and then it was impressed upon them by their original lawgiver that they are all brothers, from the moment that they are converted, and deny the gods of Greece, and worship the crucified sage, and live after his laws. 9

    – THE TALMUD

    The Talmud is essentially the collection of Jewish oral traditions that were put into writing with additional commentary between the years of AD 70 and 200. From the Babylonian Talmud, Sanhedrin 43a includes:

    On the eve of Passover they hanged Yeshu. And an announcer went out, in front of him, for forty days (saying): ‘He is going to be stoned because he practiced sorcery and enticed and led Israel astray. Anyone who knows anything in his favor, let him come and plead in his behalf.’ But, not having found anything in his favor, they hanged him on the eve of the Passover. 10

    The facts in this passage are somewhat difficult to assimilate. Although Yeshu is referring to Jesus, the announcement that he was to be stoned (a lethal punishment) is followed by the statement that he was hanged (crucified). One possible explanation is that the Jewish leadership’s call for his stoning preceded his eventual arrest by at least those forty days. This would be consistent with Scripture’s accounts of his numerous near-stonings (John 10:31-33, 11:8).

    Jesus’ death by crucifixion may have then just been a matter of Roman involvement in the affair. Perhaps it is more likely that his sudden crucifixion (which immediately followed his arrest and dubious midnight trial) was gladly allowed by the Jewish leaders to pre-empt the normal forty day holding period for a condemned man. The leaders may have feared that, during this time, Jesus’ followers might have been able to organize his release or stir up an outcry against them.

    – SUMMARY

    In summary, what can we conclude about the figure of Jesus Christ by only listening to non-Christians of the first centuries? That he was an invented myth? Absolutely not. Just by listening to Jesus’ enemies and outsiders, we can put together the following profile on Christ and his influence; the sum of which positively affirms the believability of the Bible and deity of his person:

    Jesus was a wise man and was called the Christ or Messiah, (Josephus)
    Jesus gained many disciples from many nations, (Josephus)
    He healed blind and lame people in Bethsaida and Bethany, (Julian the Apostate)
    He was accused of practicing sorcery and leading Israel astray, (the Talmud)
    Under Herod, and during the reign of Tiberius, Pontius Pilate condemned Christ to die, (Tacitus)
    Christ was crucified on the eve of Passover, (the Talmud)
    His crucifixion was accompanied by three hours of unexplained darkness, (Thallus)
    Christ’s disciples, “reported that he had appeared to them three days after his crucifixion and that he was alive;”, (Josephus)
    His disciples took to the habit of meeting on a fixed day of the week and took their name “Christians” from him, (Pliny)
    They gave worship to Christ “as to a god”, (Pliny)
    They bound themselves over to abstaining from wicked deeds, fraud, theft, adultery, and lying, (Pliny)
    Christians held a contempt for death and were known for a voluntary self-devotion, (Lucian)
    Christians believed themselves all brothers from the moment of their conversion, (Lucian)
    Christians lived after Christ’s laws, (Lucian)
    Christians were willingly tortured and even executed for their refusal to deny their belief in the resurrection and deity of Jesus Christ. (Josephus, Tacitus, Pliny, Lucian)

  • http://polarityblog.com Silverandblack666

    U ready to pay off your bet??

    Sure meet me at the Raider Nation Celebration.

  • dr_robert

    SnBG Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 12:14 pm
    Dr_robert Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 12:02 pm
    SnBG Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 11:51 am
    IT ALL STARTS WITH THE D LINE AND O LINE . Got it, if not get it
    ************

    not really. it’s important. for sure. but u need all the parts.

    reggie lasy year said “our d-line is stout”.

    reggie knows the game. that’s why he fired the LB coach and brought in 3 new guys.

    he gets it.

    we already have the dt’s in place. is houston a better dt than de? maybe. but regardless of b@uce’s personal convo with houston (LMAFAO!), he has been a DE and the re appears to be no plan to move him.

    with carter’s (underrated) signing, the defense simply lacks safeties, which i presume is the next order of business.

    the offense has all it’s parts in place but a TE and vet qb.

    then it’s draft time, where reggie will work trades for more picks and get the BPA on his board, not b@uce’s.

    remember the plan. fill the roster with as many quality parts and let them compete.

    how come all the guys i say are good, are valued by other teams, while the guys missdick and b@uce dislike, are also those same guys?

    do they not get tired of being wrong?

    the D-line has had quality linemen for years. we have had horrendous LB’s.

    mcclain was responsible for a ton of problems, simply cuz he was a ghost. he hardly counted at all.

    thomas howard? horrid.

    name a GOOD lb we have had in the last decade. only morrison ever got pro bowl votes.

    now look at the linemen. lots of pro bowl votes there.

    pay attention to what the real pros and experts say. they’ll let u know who’s good.

    or just watch. understand the positions and how they’re supposed to be played. watch each play a few times, watching each player.

    did they do their job? who should have made that play? watch the players!
    ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
    Were you talking to me or just ranting in general?????

    ************

    pretty much directed at the board as a whole, or anyone it applies to.

  • 00tt00

    1960AutumnWind Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 12:19 pm
    Raider O Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 12:16 pm
    Milliner is a great player and he is a freakish athlete. You need to have both if you are not a QB or LT to justify being a top 3 pick.
    ***********************************
    He is a top 3 pic but not a Raider need right now. If going BPA that is probably who we should pic but I am hoping someone wants him or fisher bad enough to trade up.
    ====================
    how is it not a raider need……we sign two broken players that took a month to find a home and sign them to one year contracts and all of a sudden we are set at CB….same goes for DL…..if the guys are one year contracts then its still a position of need

  • spiff

    raiders need to build a dominant front seven. if you look at that team across the bay.as much as i hate them. they built a strong front seven ,with a front four that can get to the quarteback and linebackers that can tackle.thus taking pressure off a mediocre secondary.

    then they built their offesive line with anthony davis and that somanian dude.(funny mock drafts had us taking davis we took mclaine davis just got paid). then they got their qb, and unfortunately they will be competing for a title for awhile.sad but true.

    i say trade down with miami get more picks build that defense that competes, fights, and can tackle.and play some football. cuz i tell you what, last year we played denver last year and in two games we couldn’t sack manning once.

    if dennis allen wants to keep his job he better denver once. he better beat sd twice.

  • DJ Johnny

    Marks Hair Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 12:16 pm
    Peter Dinklege is a national treasure.

    He is.

  • Mahlhavoc

    Yeah.. Go ahead and believe a “Rock” that can do magic and make a person.. Not the everlasting God. Good science! (Thumbs up!)

  • The Beeech Diggity Dawg

    Yo Brahs

    Just got back to the Beeeech Pad and took a legendary brunch duece

    Almost shed another tear when I flushed that beauty down

    Now getting to work on important letters to concert promoters for the Rasta Ganja tour

    Sending thank you cards and dropping a few spliffs in the envelope, along with a box of Milk Duds. The Dawg is always trying to take the jam to the next level, hella tight

    HOLLA BACK MO BIGS

  • dr_robert

    Raider O Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 12:18 pm
    Our DL and LBs have been an issue for years. Have fun arguing about which unit was worse?

    ************

    don’t believe me?

    look at pro bowl votes given by players and coaches.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    R8ER MIKE Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 12:19 pm
    weed and whisky are proof god loves us !!!
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    What about toothless women? Or is that the Devil’s work?

  • papertiger418

    I remember someone pointing out awhile ago that the bust rate for Dline was significantly higher than that for Oline.

    If we don’t trade back, we really should draft Oline, despite what happened with Gallery

  • http://goducks.com Sir RaiderDuck, OMS

    Dr_robert Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 12:11 pm

    they were neither shoved aside nor thrown around.

    ========================================

    YES. THEY. WERE. Both were consistently blown off the point of attack in one-on-one situations. I’ve seen more replays than I care to of both Kelly and Seymour being completely dominated.

  • 1960AutumnWind

    Ottto

    You are right about that. However I should have been more detailed in my answer. After seeing guys like Namidi play in Oakland and be easliy schemed out of the game, I think the first order of business on defense is to fix the pass rush and run defense. CB has a small part in both of those things. So while our CBs are far below average, I think the first order of business is to fix those things and work on CBs later. Millner is far more valuable to a team that has a decent pass rush and realtivily strong secondary because it just takes away another weakness.

  • Mahlhavoc

    http://beginningandend.com/jesus-exist-historical-evidence-jesus-christ/

    Non believer.. But believe in a big bang “Theory”

    Science CAN NOT make life from no life.

    Genesis 2:7
    “Then the LORD God formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.”

  • DKnight007

    Gallery had short alligator arms and his feet were not quick enough to kick out. How Raider scouts and Al missed that, is beyond me.

    Bad combo for a LT.

  • dr_robert

    the big bang theory, like a lot of science, is really trying to explain how God did it. but egotistical people who don’t like the idea of “bowing to a God”, and prefer to try to be their own god, use it as an arrogant way to “explain away God”, which is comically dense.

    what happened before the big bang? how was there nothing and then there was something?

    doesn’t make sense does it?

    what was there and how did it come to be?

    our brains inherently understand that there MUST HAVE BEEN a maker/designer. a God. but some people don’t want to accept what’s in them. they fight it. turn away from it.

  • Mahlhavoc

    Oh, and stop hating on Big Reg.. give the man a chance to purge our old Raiders and make em new again.. and Star would be a good start!

  • http://polarityblog.com Silverandblack666

    All of those lived 100′s or years or more after the fact and were promoting Christianity.

    To quote you “In summary, what can we conclude about the figure of Jesus Christ by only listening to non-Christians of the first centuries?”

    How about a Historian who actually lived during Christ times in Jerusalem

    As it happens, we have an excellent witness to events in Judaea and the Jewish diaspora in the first half of the first century AD: Philo of Alexandria (c25 BC-47 AD).

    Philo was also in the right place to give testimony of a messianic contender. A Jewish aristocrat and leader of the large Jewish community of Alexandria, we know that Philo spent time in Jerusalem (On Providence) where he had intimate connections with the royal house of Judaea. His brother, Alexander the “alabarch” (chief tax official), was one of the richest men in the east, in charge of collecting levies on imports into Roman Egypt. Alexander’s great wealth financed the silver and gold sheathing which adorned the doors of the Temple (Josephus, War 5.205). Alexander also loaned a fortune to Herod Agrippa I (Antiquities 18).

    Stop your propaganda.

  • papertiger418

    OklahomaRaider18 Says:

    Does anyone know if their is any interest in Usama young???

    —-

    Yeah, what’s the deal with this guy? Did we bring him in or what?

  • DKnight007

    dr_robert Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 12:28 pm
    the big bang theory, like a lot of science, is really trying to explain how God did it. but egotistical people who don’t like the idea of “bowing to a God”, and prefer to try to be their own god, use it as an arrogant way to “explain away God”, which is comically dense.

    what happened before the big bang? how was there nothing and then there was something?

    doesn’t make sense does it?

    what was there and how did it come to be?

    our brains inherently understand that there MUST HAVE BEEN a maker/designer. a God. but some people don’t want to accept what’s in them. they fight it. turn away from it.

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Something had to create and cause the big bang to occur and something had to cause the Universe to exist right?

    Did everything just come togeher randomly?

    Interesting…

  • SnBG

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 12:12 pm
    “Silverandblack666 Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 11:55 am
    Jesus never existed Dr Robert you need to come to terms with it.
    ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
    Oh yes he did”
    Silverandblack666 Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 12:12 pm
    “Silverandblack666 Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 11:55 am
    Jesus never existed Dr Robert you need to come to terms with it.
    ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
    Oh yes he did”

    You believe and have faith that he did but there is no proof.

    ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
    I believe Jesus was a man, not sure of the rest.

    The first-century Roman Tacitus, who is considered one of the more accurate historians of the ancient world, mentioned superstitious “Christians” (from Christus, which is Latin for Christ), who suffered under Pontius Pilate during the reign of Tiberius. Suetonius, chief secretary to Emperor Hadrian, wrote that there was a man named Chrestus (or Christ) who lived during the first century (Annals 15.44).

    Flavius Josephus is the most famous Jewish historian. In his Antiquities he refers to James, “the brother of Jesus, who was called Christ.”

    Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/did-Jesus-exist.html#ixzz2Pzp6AqVc

  • spiff

    i think milliner is to short. he’s okay. saw him make plays on the ball as it came to the receiver but i also saw alot of bad passes where receivers had him beat. don’t see him as someone who can take away half the field.

    i think xavier rhodes ( 6’1 210 lb with speed) is a better press corner and more physical . he’s not good in zone but he has maore potential to take away one half of the field away than milliner. not at three though. trade down get more picks

  • http://polarityblog.com Silverandblack666

    So what, your a sheep go graze and leave the non believer alone.

    I wasn’t asking for a debate I was trying to smack Dr Robert around so calm down Cujo.

  • dr_robert

    Sir RaiderDuck, OMS Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 12:26 pm
    Dr_robert Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 12:11 pm

    they were neither shoved aside nor thrown around.

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    YES. THEY. WERE. Both were consistently blown off the point of attack in one-on-one situations. I’ve seen more replays than I care to of both Kelly and Seymour being completely dominated.

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    as i said, i don’t think it’s true. certainly not to the extent u say.

    but seymour was hurt and old.

    kelly always was inclined to take plays off at times.

    bottom line is the LB’s have been poor.

    d-line get pro bowl votes. LB’s don’t.

    a board of amateurs here don’t know like the pros know.

    missdick and b@uce hate palmer. the pros love him.

    one hates him cuz he’s white. the other says he’s a spoiled rich kid. these are evaluations?

    meanwhile, i see production and so do the pros.

    sims and walker combined with bilukidi and jones will be quite solid. the new LB’s are aggressive and active tacklers.

    will we pick floyd or star? doubt it.

    i say ansah or fisher.

  • RaidingTexas

    C’mon, man. Don’t muck up the board with your Jesus freak crap.

  • jesusraiderjim

    raiderinparadise Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 11:24 am
    I would say FS and SS needs additons … on June 1st Huff credit of 8 mill saves us.

    C. Woodson makes too much sesne. a vet leader 2 yr deal see if he can help team make the turn.

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    RaidernP

    I am in total agreement with this and your previous post. Woodson would be perfect I am sure he can bring it for a couple more sesons.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Drafting Gallery bothers me more than JR and DHB.

  • http://polarityblog.com Silverandblack666

    SnBG I was smacking Dr Robert around

    Stop it

  • Marks hair

    Wheeler and t.howard were the only line backers playing their natural positions in the last 10 years.. bad planning bad coaching bad players big mess… the D line has been slightly less terrible.

  • http://goducks.com Sir RaiderDuck, OMS

    SnBG Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 12:31 pm

    Flavius Josephus is the most famous Jewish historian. In his Antiquities he refers to James, “the brother of Jesus, who was called Christ.”

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    Josephus’ writings about Jesus consist of one paragraph plopped into the middle of a chapter entitled “Jewish Calamities.” They completely interrupt the flow of the writing and were originally “discovered” in the fourth century CE by Bishop Eusebius, who had previously written that lying was OK if it brought people into the faith. Bottom line is that even most modern Christian scholars discount Josephus’ Jesus paragraph.

  • dr_robert

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 12:32 pm
    So what, your a sheep go graze and leave the non believer alone.

    I wasn’t asking for a debate I was trying to smack Dr Robert around so calm down Cujo.

    ********

    u sound like a holocaust denier. ur only reason for denying Jesus existed, is to mess with people.

    why?

    btw, i’m unsmackable.