Wallace reportedly joins QB mix

Posted on April 10, 2013 by Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer

Veteran quarterback Seneca Wallace will join Matt Flynn and Terrelle Pryor in the Raiders quarterback room, according to both CBSsports.com and NFL.com.

Wallace, 32, is a nine-year veteran with 17 NFL starts. He played the last two seasons for the Cleveland Browns after playing seven with the Seattle Seahawks.

Wallace reportedly is preferred over Tyler Thipen, who also worked out for the Raiders.

The Raiders typically don’t announce deals until the signed contract is at the facility and general manager Reggie McKenzie approves release of the news.

Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer

Sir RaiderDuck, OMS

Inonewordraider Says:
April 10th, 2013 at 1:55 pm
although pryor not gettin run at qb when we were out of it was the biggest gaffe, taiwan not getting run at rb was bad coaching as well

by all accounts he was dynamic in practice, give him a shot during the games, don’t bench him for the season for one fumble

unfortunately Reggie like Taiwan at cb, so we’ve probably seen the last of tj running the rock

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The accounts I read said Taiwan was fumbling all the time at practice, including in non-contact drills. Can’t have someone at RB who can’t hang onto the ball.
alex7

Probability of drafting a Pro Bowl player:

top-5 pick: 49%
top-15 pick: 42%
picks 16-20: 22%

BIG DROP OFF.

http://www.advancednflstats.com/2009/04/career-success-by-draft-order.html
SilverLining20

Ravens close to deal with Rolando.
inonewordraider

The accounts I read said Taiwan was fumbling all the time at practice, including in non-contact drills. Can’t have someone at RB who can’t hang onto the ball
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gregg knapp said that, cp said otherwise and beat reporter tweets of goings on in practice said otherwise
Football Coach

Not every elite beast athlete for the position of DE/rush OLB will be good in the NFL (see Vernon Gholston).

But it sure helps (Aldon Smith, JPP, Ware, Orakpo, Von Miller).

Out of the top 10 young edge rushers in the NFL, none of them came near the lack of speed showed by Moore, especially in the key 10 yard split. He does not even register in the range. I have not seen Jarvis Jones’ 10 yard split, but his 40 is so bad, it is hard to see him being in the range on the 10 split as well. Productive players in college who simply don’t have the athleticism to carry it over to the pros, are not likely to productive in the pros, especially at a critical athletic position such as edge rusher.
The_Judge37

Reggie, Stop pilaging the Browns! I miss the days of Green Bay Practice Squaders.
exlaraiderseasonticketholder

Don’t believe the press release. The Mayor of Toledo sold a prime piece of water-front to the same group in 2009 on the Maumee River opposite dtwn called the Marina District. To this date, despite groundbreaking on the site for hotels, a marina, condos, and retail, not a shovel of dirt has been moved. The Chinese got a sweet deal and are sitting on it.
oklahomaRaider18

Love these moves, Reggie ‘s making!! Under the radar type of signings, hungry players, we will be hungry, competitive team gentlemen!!! Have Faith in Reggie, so many Haters on here. Thought this was a Raiders Blog site???
NGRaiderfan

Nothing can oredict who will be good or who will be not good in the nfl. Production doesnt, but neither does measurables. (DHB?, Bruce Campbell?). Thats y coaches always, always make final decisons based on game tape, where u can see the production.
Sir RaiderDuck, OMS

Alex7 Says:
April 10th, 2013 at 1:58 pm
Probability of drafting a Pro Bowl player:

top-5 pick: 49%
top-15 pick: 42%
picks 16-20: 22%

BIG DROP OFF.

http://www.advancednflstats.com/2009/04/career-success-by-draft-order.html

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The stat that jumps out at me is the first. There’s less than a 50-50 chance your top-five pick will go to even one Pro Bowl in his career!
KoolKell

SilverLining20 Says:
April 10th, 2013 at 1:58 pm

Ravens close to deal with Rolando.
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I remember 2 yrs ago, Ray Lewis said he was very impressed with him.
NGRaiderfan

At least smart ones. Theres aleays a couple that draft dontari poes in the first round
The_Judge37

oklahomaRaider18 Says:
April 10th, 2013 at 1:59 pm
Love these moves, Reggie ’s making!! Under the radar type of signings
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Crashing a plane in the water is flying under the radar. This is a Bermuda Triangle signing
Football Coach

NGRaiderfan Says:
April 10th, 2013 at 2:00 pm

Nothing can oredict who will be good or who will be not good in the nfl. Production doesnt, but neither does measurables. (DHB?, Bruce Campbell?). Thats y coaches always, always make final decisons based on game tape, where u can see the production.

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Yes, you must have game tape that verifies the athletic ability.

However, WR is very different than DE. There are so many savvy intricacies to the position of WR in route running, adjustments, and especially ball skills.

DHB was a truly elite physical athlete, but he lacked in every area of key WR skill set. If he was even mediocre in routes, ball skills and hands, he would probably have easily justified his draft slot. He might have the worst hands of any 1st round WR in the modern era.
rediaR

NGRaiderfan Says:
April 10th, 2013 at 1:55 pm
Terrell suggs?

Broke record for sacks in a season. Had a horrible pro day/combine (actually numbers identical to moores. Got dpoy in 2011 and has been a beast since the day he got in the league. Production means more than measurables in any position. I personally dont think the raiders can afford to spen a #3 pick on a potential guy. They need guys who can go in and produce right away
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Great, and how many more current NFL high production pass rushers aren’t elite athletes? How many of them had comparable production to Jordan and Ansah? How many high production college players do nothing at the position in the NFL? How many elite pass rushers are not first rounders? How many are not top 15 picks? College production (stats not backed up by evaluation of tape) are mostly irrelevant at the college level.
Silverandblack666

“The stat that jumps out at me is the first. There’s less than a 50-50 chance your top-five pick will go to even one Pro Bowl in his career!”

That is exactly how I would look at it and say TRADE DOWN!
Sir RaiderDuck, OMS

Only on this blog do people bag on the GM for signing the wrong third-string QB…
lefty12

2 years ago a lot of people were impressed with OM.A lot can change in a short period of time.
rediaR

NGRaiderfan Says:
April 10th, 2013 at 2:00 pm
Nothing can oredict who will be good or who will be not good in the nfl. Production doesnt, but neither does measurables. (DHB?, Bruce Campbell?). Thats y coaches always, always make final decisons based on game tape, where u can see the production.
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Some positions require more athleticism at the highest level.
Follow the B@uceman

KoolKell Says:
April 10th, 2013 at 1:49 pm
Nobody on this Blog has any info, inside or otherwise, on the Raiders long term future.
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Yeah just like I didnt know about Russell huh? Dumb old btch….stop being jealous
rediaR

Silverandblack666 Says:
April 10th, 2013 at 2:03 pm
“The stat that jumps out at me is the first. There’s less than a 50-50 chance your top-five pick will go to even one Pro Bowl in his career!”

That is exactly how I would look at it and say TRADE DOWN!’
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Have to be able to trust your GM and scouts to pick the right guy. Playing it safe gets you nothing.
Sir RaiderDuck, OMS

The_Judge37 Says:
April 10th, 2013 at 1:54 pm
I already said Vince Young

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And watch him pout and bad-mouth everyone the minute something doesn’t go his way? No thanks. Reggie just got done ridding our team of his kind.
The_Judge37

Sir RaiderDuck, OMS Says:
April 10th, 2013 at 2:03 pm
Only on this blog do people bag on the GM for signing the wrong third-string QB…
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To be fair, only on this blog would people hoist Reggie on their shoulders for signing Seneca Wallace
Follow the B@uceman

SilverLining20 Says:
April 10th, 2013 at 1:53 pm
Follow The B@Uceman Says:
April 10th, 2013 at 1:30 pm
Follow The B@Uceman Says:
April 10th, 2013 at 1:23 pm
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Jerry-Brown-unveils-1-5B-Oakland-waterfront-deal-4424173.php
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GREAT!
My annual trip to the bay is gonna get better and better.
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Come on by…tailgate will love you to be there!
rediaR

The_Judge37 Says:
April 10th, 2013 at 2:08 pm
Sir RaiderDuck, OMS Says:
April 10th, 2013 at 2:03 pm
Only on this blog do people bag on the GM for signing the wrong third-string QB…
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To be fair, only on this blog would people hoist Reggie on their shoulders for signing Seneca Wallace
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niceguymoe

What’s with the Cleveland Browns re-threads?
Dakota

Super bowl!
lefty12

Guys arguing over production over potential.Didn’t Reggie say he liked production over workout warriors?
The_Judge37

Sir RaiderDuck, OMS Says:
April 10th, 2013 at 2:08 pm
The_Judge37 Says:
April 10th, 2013 at 1:54 pm
I already said Vince Young

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And watch him pout and bad-mouth everyone the minute something doesn’t go his way? No thanks. Reggie just got done ridding our team of his kind.
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LOL, Haven’t you heard, he’s humble now and is grateful to get another shot.
KoolKell

Follow The B@Uceman Says:
April 10th, 2013 at 2:07 pm

KoolKell Says:
April 10th, 2013 at 1:49 pm
Nobody on this Blog has any info, inside or otherwise, on the Raiders long term future.
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Yeah just like I didnt know about Russell huh? Dumb old btch….stop being jealous
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Pootbutt btch. Lol.
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

This is the draft you want to trade out of top ten

alot of GMs only truly have 15 guys graded as a 1st round prospect and only the OT graded as TOP 5 pick

Raiders have alot of holes to fill and could get some solid players later 1st round and a few in the 2nd round
John David Booty

Cordova Highs finest.

If our QB’s going into camp are Flynn, Pryor, and Sen, it is going to be a very interesting battle.

None of these guys are world class QBs. But Flynn and Sen are not bums either. Pryor on the other hand is probably the most athletically gifted QB in the NFL today, but is raw in development.

I’m not confident that we have a hands-down #1 QB right now. Ugly as it sounds, any one of these guys could f#ck around and win the starting job. This one isn’t even about talent. It’s going to be about who wants it more, prepares themselves the most, and works the hardest for the job. This is going to be real interesting.
KoolKell

How the hell can you say college production is irrelevant to college DE’s. Isnt that crazy just on the face of it?

Ever see a DT drafted in the top ten with schit stats? Without impressive sack numbers?? cmon.
Marks hair

Trade down twice
The_Judge37

Marks hair Says:
April 10th, 2013 at 2:15 pm
Trade down twice
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And then cut everyone, so next year we can have $120 Million in Cap space
RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

And then cut everyone, so next year we can have $120 Million in Cap space

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dont be silly.. u gotta spend 89 percent of it
John David Booty

KoolKell Says:
April 10th, 2013 at 2:14 pm
How the hell can you say college production is irrelevant to college DE’s. Isnt that crazy just on the face of it?

Ever see a DT drafted in the top ten with schit stats? Without impressive sack numbers?? cmon.
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College stats arent everything, but I agree, they still have to mean something. I want to at least know that a guy knows how to play football.

A guys a phenomenal athlete? Great. Lets go back and see what he was doing with all that athleticism.
lefty12

John David Booty Says:
April 10th, 2013 at 2:14 pm
Cordova Highs finest.

If our QB’s going into camp are Flynn, Pryor, and Sen, it is going to be a very interesting battle.

None of these guys are world class QBs. But Flynn and Sen are not bums either. Pryor on the other hand is probably the most athletically gifted QB in the NFL today, but is raw in development.

I’m not confident that we have a hands-down #1 QB right now. Ugly as it sounds, any one of these guys could f#ck around and win the starting job. This one isn’t even about talent. It’s going to be about who wants it more, prepares themselves the most, and works the hardest for the job. This is going to be real interesting.
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Disagree.Flynn=#1,Wallace=BU,Pryor=project.
RaiderRockstar

easy with the Cleveland Browns castoff comments.

Seneca Wallace wasn’t with them last year!

he failed to make the 53 man roster over there and was released after the final preseason game last offseason. Was out of the NFL

he lost out to Brandon Weeden, Colt McCoy & Thaddeus Lewis
Follow the B@uceman

KoolKell Says:
April 10th, 2013 at 2:11 pm
Follow The B@Uceman Says:
April 10th, 2013 at 2:07 pm

KoolKell Says:
April 10th, 2013 at 1:49 pm
Nobody on this Blog has any info, inside or otherwise, on the Raiders long term future.
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Yeah just like I didnt know about Russell huh? Dumb old btch….stop being jealous
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Pootbutt btch. Lol.
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Exactly Kell….you said I knew nada about what Russell does and guess fkin what? You even admitted it on this very blog

You dont know who I know. You only assume I’m a ghetto trash person with no ability toreach any different types of people

Instead of being positive about this great news today you are negative….even those from LA are more happy than you….what is it….you want everyone in the East Bay to be miserable like yourself?
Follow the B@uceman

Anyways…yall be cool…I’m outro

Go A’s tonight
Dakota

We will win!
SnBG

RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
April 10th, 2013 at 2:13 pm
This is the draft you want to trade out of top ten

alot of GMs only truly have 15 guys graded as a 1st round prospect and only the OT graded as TOP 5 pick

Raiders have alot of holes to fill and could get some solid players later 1st round and a few in the 2nd round
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If you trade out of the top 10 it isn’t worth it. In the Raiders case I wouldn’t want to trade out of the 8th. There’s to much D talent there to take a chance and not get. Yes we have a lot of holes but those holes need to be filled with talent. Better to be patient that trade to far down.
lefty12

B-not Exla.
The Beeech Diggity Dawg

Barfman the Genital, you’re gonna be really sad when the Raiders move to LA and the Beeeech Diggity is sitting front and center in his tricked out luxury box

Why do you love Oakland so much anyway?

All your teams totally blow and the city smells like a freshly soiled Krappy diaper

Plus I’ve macked on most of your hottest women and they’re still 5 notches below the ugliest LA chick I’ve allowed to pleasure the Lawg

Time to step it up, Barfman, shout out to Kris Kross
rediaR

KoolKell Says:
April 10th, 2013 at 2:14 pm
How the hell can you say college production is irrelevant to college DE’s. Isnt that crazy just on the face of it?

Ever see a DT drafted in the top ten with schit stats? Without impressive sack numbers?? cmon.
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All you have to do is look at the top pass rushers in the NFL and their college production. Maybe even take a look at the top college pass rushers with limited athleticism and see how they turn out in the NFL.

Different positions require different skillsets, and different skillsets are required for certain positions in college than in pros.
The_Judge37

RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
April 10th, 2013 at 2:17 pm
And then cut everyone, so next year we can have $120 Million in Cap space

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dont be silly.. u gotta spend 89 percent of it

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$106 Million to Coye Francise it is then!
KoolKell

Yeah Brien, YOU THE MAYNE! You just saved the Oakland Raider from Foreign Territory. Thanks.
rediaR

Tape evaluation is the #1 factor for every position. Athleticism is #2 for some. Pass rusher is one of those.
SnBG

The Beeech Diggity Dawg Says:
April 10th, 2013 at 2:22 pm
Barfman the Genital, you’re gonna be really sad when the Raiders move to LA and the Beeeech Diggity is sitting front and center in his tricked out luxury box

Why do you love Oakland so much anyway?

All your teams totally blow and the city smells like a freshly soiled Krappy diaper

Plus I’ve macked on most of your hottest women and they’re still 5 notches below the ugliest LA chick I’ve allowed to pleasure the Lawg

Time to step it up, Barfman, shout out to Kris Kross
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Yep, lets move back to smogville and sit in traffic all day.