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McKenzie sums up Raiders draft performance

By Steve Corkran
Saturday, April 27th, 2013 at 7:49 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie and his coaches and scouts spent most of the first two days of the 2012 NFL draft waiting to make their first pick. This time around, they were active from the beginning and never slowed down until the three-day, seven-round process wrapped up Saturday.
That included almost two hours scouring the landscape for a slew of undrafted free agents once the draft ended about 4:30 p.m. PDT. Eventually, McKenzie emerged from the Raiders draft room and spent 17 minutes or so talking about his thoughts on how the Raiders fared in a draft that yielded 10 players, six on offense and four on defense.
Here is the entire transcript of what McKenzie had to say at Raiders headquarters in Alamdea:

Intro: Good evening, guys, how are we doing? Well, we’re excited that we added 10 new players. We feel like we got 10 young guys that will help this ballclub and I want to congratulate and say thanks to all the personnel staff and the coaching staff and everyone involved in this whole process. It was a, ended up being a good day. Ended up well, and we’re excited for the future of the Raiders.

Q: Seemed to lean offense today, feel like you made offense more explosive today?
A: I would like to say so. The past three days, the one thing we did is we stayed true to the board, and the board kind of dictated a lot of what we did, picking certain players, certain positions, whether it was moving back. We tried to assess the value of where we are and let the board help dictate what we do.

Q: What do you like about Tyler Wilson and do you have to basically erase last year with the team-wide turmoil at Arkansas?
A: Yeah, with that being said, I totally understand the coaching change, the offense, all that. But you can still watch his style of play, the way he plays the game. And we like a lot of things about him. We like the way he can move around in the pocket, we like his toughness to hang in there and see the field, we think he has a lot of qualities that goes into being a good solid quarterback in the NFL.

Q: You targeting either him or Barkley there?
A: Well, what we did is we made sure we looked at the board and how it falls, that’s how we went. Now, who was where? I don’t want to get into that because I’d be telling you my board. I don’t want to do that.

Q: Not even now? It’s all over.
A: It is over. But I don’t want to let the other teams know where I had guys.

Q: Raiders came in with seven picks, wound up with 10, was your plan to add picks?
McKenzie: No, it developed that way. I mean, going into this today and the whole draft week I wanted to make sure we added seven good players. If we it happened to turn into five or 12, there was no way to determine that, especially going in to it. I didn’t want to go into it making trades, but I did want to stay true to the board and if it tells me, hey, you should move down because of the value of it, then I’m going to look into it, I’ll take the calls.

Q: As draft went on and you said you’d pick the best player available, how do you address need as well?
McKenzie: From that standpoint, you just hope that it falls right. If you get one need, one thing about it, we felt like we had a few needs, so I didn’t think it was that hard to address certain areas, because we had needs at a lot of spots. We need to upgrade depth in a lot of stops. We knew if we stayed true to the board we would get good players, and that was the whole factor. Make sure we got good players with each pick.

Q: Hard to stay true to the board as it went on?
McKenzie: As it went on, later on, it’s always, even in the beginning, you’re like, somebody’s on the board that you didn’t expect and you would like to fill a need real quick but you can’t do that, you hurt your team that way.

Q: Based on your characteristics, McGee sticks out as a departure in terms of what you’re looking for. The issues he’s had, what sold you on making him a Raider?
McKenzie: The research, and talking to , not only doing the research with the people down there and all of that, but the research with him and his group, the people that surround him, his support group, and talking to him, himself. Just came away with, I wanted to see what this guy has and give him the chance. He knows it. But I have no problems bringing him into that locker room. He’s a solid guy that made some mistakes in college. That happens sometimes. But after the thorough research that we had, we felt good about him.

Q: So guys like him and Murray, guys who were off the radar, they were still on your board, the next guy available?
McKenzie: yes, yes.

Your rankings not affected by other teams?
“Absolutely. You can drive yourself crazy if you try to set your board that way. If you try to figure out where the other teams put their players, you can’t do that. You gotta believe the reports and the recommendations of your scouts and everybody who saw that player and when we get together and put it on the board, as here it is, here’s where we’re going to put him and it becomes this way. We’ll pick ‘em compared to where we have everybody else. We stay true to the board by how we evaluate the guys not by how we think he’s going to come off the board.”

Tyler Wilson has a three-quarters delivery, are you fine with his mechanics?
“Coach is going to have to work with mechanics. That’s how it is with a lot of these players. These guys coming in as rookies, they’ve been taught a certain way, they’ve been throwing all kinds of ways… regardless of quarterback position or any one of the positions, they’re gonna have to get coached up and he’s no exception.”

How different was this draft for you?
“It was different. Number one, you just came in and watched day one and pretty much days two until the last pick day two so… but today, last year, a lot of energy. Now, as far as going into the draft preparation and the cohesiveness and the overall feel for me, it was much better this year because I’ve experienced it once. So, I’m going into my second draft so it was, the flow was much better for me. I’m probably more comfortable with the scouts. I got a chance to work with Zack (Crockett), Calvin (Branch) and David McCloughan, and the rest of those guys, Mickey Marvin. I’ve been through it with those guys last year so I knew those guys so this year, getting some of the other guys in place and kind of doing it the way I was accustomed to, it was much more comfortable for me so I felt a whole lot better going into it.”

How do you assess the QB situation, will you look to add a veteran?
“I would like to bring four guys into the off-season and whether bring them into training camp or not, I’m used to bringing in about four quarterbacks and let the guys compete and try to work through camp. It’s very hard to have just two or three quarterbacks because if one takes the day off, whether he’s hurt, sick, the arm is sore, whatever, you gotta rely on just a couple of guys doing all the work.”

Do you think Tyler Wilson can compete right away for job?
“Well, you know, he’s a rookie. I want him to learn the playbook first. Get out here and make sure he gets behind the center and not behind the guard. You know, you want these guys to come in and just show the coaches and their teammates, No. 1, that they belong. Then all the other stuff will come.”

You say you don’t worry about other teams’ boards, but how does that work when you’re trading down? Not worried you’ll get jumped?
“Well, it comes into play when it’s not just… you’re assuming I’m just looking at the quarterback position. If I have more players around that area, I feel comfortable moving down. So that’s the way I try to set the board. If it’s enough players in that general area, then I’ll move down. Not just that one position. I try not to target just one position unless I’m going up, to go get that one position guy. That’s when I’m targeting one position guy. And if I have enough ammunition, I’ll try to do that.”

You took one giant tight end, one smaller tight end. They a nice complement?
“It was definitely the board, because those two guys, they were right together. And yes, Kasa is more the in-line guy – you know, he can catch the ball, but he hasn’t had a whole lot of experience playing the position. But he showed that he can play the position. And Rivera’s more the receiving tight end. He’s played in-line also, but what he excels at is more the receiving-type tight end.”

And you had to get somebody from Tennessee?
“Absolutely. That helps.”

Q: How did you address your pass-rush need the past couple days?
A: “Well, we felt like we got a couple of guys that can rush the passer. We think the third-round pick, Sio, can come off the edge a bit. We think David Bass can come off the edge some. We like some of the things that Stacy can do in the middle. So, sometimes you look into the certain draft classes and you try to identify a gamut of pass-rushers or whatever needs you may have, whether it’s quarterback, running back, it doesn’t matter. If it’s not there, we’re not going to make up guys. We’re not going to push guys up the board because we think we need a defensive lineman, a defensive end. We’re not going to do that. If it’s nto there, we’ll find it in another way.”

Q: Is Bass a guy that you hoped would be available later on?
A: “Yeah, we didn’t think he was … where we picked him is kind of where we had him.”

Q: How much did Bass’ East-West Shrine Game performance help in the evaluation process?
A: “Well, it helps when you go against certain competition. When you’re used to going against certain players, now he’s going against bigger and better football players, you can try to see if you can see the same things you saw on tape. Yeah, that helps.”

Q: Did you not have enough guys who loved football last year?
A: It has more to do with the philosophy with what we’re trying to implement into this team and the message that we’re sending to the current team last year when we got here. It was more ‘This is what we’re all about. These are the kind of players we want. If you want to join ship let’s get on board. This is what you’re going to have to do. You’re going to have to work.’ It’s just sending the message and this is kind of who we are as players and as a team. We’re going to come here and go to work and try to get it done.

Q: Did guys last year not join the ship?
A: I’ll tell you this it was you had some guys that had to learn how to do it the right way and I thought this staff did a good job of getting guys to do that. Make no bones about it guys. We won’t be the only team that brings guys in and ships guys out. That’s going to always be the case. We’ll have some of these guys here currently who probably can’t cut it. The goal is to get guys in that locker room that are all working for a common goal and are on the same page. That’s the only way you’re going to develop chemistry. Those guys have to come together. Once coaches send the right message and players try to implement it you have a chance. All right. Thanks guys.

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  • http://www.raiders.com Silverandblack666

    “Get real people.. you guys can love sh!t stuffers all you want.. But GOD decided to burn down an entire kingdom and everyone it because of the nasty dong suckers..”

    LMAO are you from the South?

    Is the Earth flat?

    Do all the planets revolve around earth?

    I suppose the earth is only 6,000 years old?

    Come on guy there is a reason we don’t smoke cigarettes inside anymore guy get real.

  • The_Judge37

    It’s not right to force your beliefs on someone. And that goes for both sides of the religious arguement.

  • http://www.raiders.com Silverandblack666

    Here you go!

    Here is what your teaching accomplish:

    http://www.snopes.com/photos/signs/sciencetest.asp

  • spiff

    we only got 1 pick because no one wanted to trade up for anybody. if you look at it philly took johnson, their phone wasn’t ringing for a trade down. nobody wanted to get into the top 5. raiders got their man and a second round pick. the quarterback is a good pick. he got swag, he’s a accurate passer and stays in the pocket.he makes plays.

  • guest123

    Your god sounds like an a$$hole.

    ^^^^^^^

    This is what Pharaoh said to Moses as he set his people free.

  • http://www.raiders.com Silverandblack666

    “Once you decide to trust in something bigger than yourself, allow God’s love to touch your buttcrack”

    Sounds like Sodomy to me!

  • J-Raider

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    April 29th, 2013 at 1:19 pm
    “Get real people.. you guys can love sh!t stuffers all you want.. But GOD decided to burn down an entire kingdom and everyone it because of the nasty dong suckers..”

    LMAO are you from the South?

    Is the Earth flat?

    Do all the planets revolve around earth?

    I suppose the earth is only 6,000 years old?

    Come on guy there is a reason we don’t smoke cigarettes inside anymore guy get real.
    —————————–
    you sound like your from SanFransico.. this is a RAIDERS blog so GTFO!!!!

    But seriously, you sound like your butt hurts from last night queer..

  • http://www.raiders.com Silverandblack666

    “Hey, we got a tuff guy over here!!!!”

    Its not hard talking tough to invisible things just as MR he does it here every day.

  • alex7

    The entire western civilization is based on judeo-christianity / catholicism / monotheism.

    Kinda big deal and it’s rather awesome on this half of the planet compared to the Muslim and atheistic nations in the middle east and far east.

  • http://www.raiders.com Silverandblack666

    “But seriously, you sound like your butt hurts from last night queer..”

    And this is why the educated part of the country can’t stand religion mostly Christianity.

    WOW.

  • guest123

    2106,

    I trust your expertise on the subject. I wouldn’t know.

  • dr_robert

    A five year old isn’t gay?

    Are u stupid? Ask most gay people when they knew when they were gay and it was when they were a child.

    Do little boys and little girls act differently all in their own, or of they wait until puberty before they do?

    Sexual identity is hard wired and it comes well before sexual desires.

    A five year old boy who acts very feminine may well be gay.

    People used to call them sissies. Or tomboys.

    Sorry. God loves His gay children and I’m not gonna make Him mad at me by being hateful.

    Btw, there are MANY good Christian gay people.

  • inonewordraider

    teams like the 9ers gonna have some good cuts

  • J-Raider

    GOD WINS!!! GO RAIDERS!!!!

  • RaiderRockstar

    Just because God loves every person doesn’t mean he condones every person’s actions..

    some actions are deemed “sin” and they have consequences.

    You dudes love your children. Does that mean you approve of everything they say and do, and there is never any punishment from you when they mess up or break your rules?

    You expect them to say “i’m sorry” and learn their lesson, not become a repeat offender. It’s called repentance.

    I agree with Dr Bob on that one-liner. he doesn’t HATE any person and all are created equal.

    we’ve been given an opportunity. some of you dudes are gonna boom. some will bust. it’s like we’re players in the draft.

  • The_Judge37

    2104.spiff Says:
    April 29th, 2013 at 1:20 pm
    we only got 1 pick because no one wanted to trade up for anybody. if you look at it philly took johnson, their phone wasn’t ringing for a trade down. nobody wanted to get into the top 5. raiders got their man and a second round pick. the quarterback is a good pick. he got swag, he’s a accurate passer and stays in the pocket.he makes plays.
    —-

    For all the “Calls” reggie was getting, i think he should’ve been able to squeeze at least a 4-5th. QB i don’t hate the guy personally but we already have a QB project and overwhelmed/undercapable QB coach. A lot more needs we could’ve filled in that round.

  • J-Raider

    Btw, there are MANY good Christian gay people.
    ——————————————-
    READ GENESIS 19: It doesn’t agree with this statement…

  • The_Judge37

    Dennis Allen and Tarver are why we picked Wilson and Rivera. They were so amazed the way they torched their defense

  • RaiderRockstar

    there are MANY good Christian gay people

    ***

    oxymoron

  • rediaR

    The_Judge37 Says:
    April 29th, 2013 at 1:26 pm
    2104.spiff Says:
    April 29th, 2013 at 1:20 pm
    we only got 1 pick because no one wanted to trade up for anybody. if you look at it philly took johnson, their phone wasn’t ringing for a trade down. nobody wanted to get into the top 5. raiders got their man and a second round pick. the quarterback is a good pick. he got swag, he’s a accurate passer and stays in the pocket.he makes plays.
    —-

    For all the “Calls” reggie was getting, i think he should’ve been able to squeeze at least a 4-5th. QB i don’t hate the guy personally but we already have a QB project and overwhelmed/undercapable QB coach. A lot more needs we could’ve filled in that round
    ———————–
    All off the table when Fisher and Joeckel went 1 and 2.

  • alex7

    The entire Western civilization is based on judeo-christianity / catholicism / monotheism.

    Kinda big deal and it’s rather awesome on this half of the planet compared to the Muslim and atheistic nations in the middle east and far east.

  • guest123

    2112,

    wow stupid response. Is this garbage coming from the GLAAD manual or did you read this on a gey rights website? Children aren’t hardwired into their sexuality before they hit puberty. But that doesn’t stop fools and idiots from posturing new theories that fit their agenda. But keep on believing that crap. They say it enough, makes enough headlines and enough people believe nonsense based on repetition.

  • RaiderRockstar

    nobody is created gey. geyness is a choice

  • 1960AutumnWind

    List of RFA

    Offense

    QB Kyle Padron, Eastern Washington
    RB Deonte Williams, Cal Poly
    G Lamar Mady, Youngstown State
    C/G Deveric Gallington, Texas Tech
    OL Braden Hansen, BYU
    OL Josh Leonard, Wyoming
    OT Logan Freeman, Central Missouri
    OT John Wetzel, Boston College
    WR Sam McGuffie, Rice
    WR Conner Vernon, Duke
    WR Tim Wright, Rutgers

    Defense

    DT Kurt Tuaufa’asau, Wyoming
    DL Kentrell Harris, Virginia Union
    LB Jarell Childs, Kansas State
    ILB Billy Boyko, Lehigh University
    DB Adrian Bushell, Louisville
    S Dexter McCoil, Tulsa
    DB Freddy Young, New Mexico

    Special Teams

    LS Adam Steiner, Akron
    P Bobby Cowan, Idaho

    From Guiteriz SFChron….

    Based on the past only 1-3 guys will mke it on roster or PS – who are your prospects that are going to make it.

    My bet: Cownan, McGuffie, McCoil. Cowan only has to beat out king who is also UDFA. McCoil is in a need positoin and McGuffie has the measurables and amazing tape.

  • guest123

    we’ve been given an opportunity. some of you dudes are gonna boom. some will bust. it’s like we’re players in the draft.

    ^^^^^^^^

    It’s much better to give than to receive!

  • rediaR

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    April 29th, 2013 at 1:29 pm
    nobody is created gey. geyness is a choice
    —————–
    How hard do you have to try to not be gay every day? Do you even succeed?

  • dr_robert

    Silver–like most atheists, u seem to be very angry at God. U were probably hurt at some point and feel He abandoned u. And u have read a lot of religious texts in search if something.

    God didn’t abandon u. It’s the devil who had a hold of u. God can save u. It’s a gift to know God.

    Why do so many atheists hate Christians? If u don’t believe, why do u care? It’s really cuz ur angry at feeling excluded and being an outsider.

    But seriously, even though Christianity can be warped and misused by evildoers, true Christianity is loving, open, inclusive, and makes a person feel whole.

    I hope u find ur way buddy, regardless of our little battles in here.

    Same goes for all of u.

  • RaiderRockstar

    AW,

    Cowan > King?

    I thought McCoil was a SS? think he’ll back up TB33?

    never heard of McGuffie, but he would be the 5th or 6th WR if he can beat out Butler & Session

  • rediaR

    1960AutumnWind Says:
    April 29th, 2013 at 1:29 pm
    List of RFA

    Offense

    QB Kyle Padron, Eastern Washington
    RB Deonte Williams, Cal Poly
    G Lamar Mady, Youngstown State
    C/G Deveric Gallington, Texas Tech
    OL Braden Hansen, BYU
    OL Josh Leonard, Wyoming
    OT Logan Freeman, Central Missouri
    OT John Wetzel, Boston College
    WR Sam McGuffie, Rice
    WR Conner Vernon, Duke
    WR Tim Wright, Rutgers

    Defense

    DT Kurt Tuaufa’asau, Wyoming
    DL Kentrell Harris, Virginia Union
    LB Jarell Childs, Kansas State
    ILB Billy Boyko, Lehigh University
    DB Adrian Bushell, Louisville
    S Dexter McCoil, Tulsa
    DB Freddy Young, New Mexico

    Special Teams

    LS Adam Steiner, Akron
    P Bobby Cowan, Idaho

    From Guiteriz SFChron….

    Based on the past only 1-3 guys will mke it on roster or PS – who are your prospects that are going to make it.

    My bet: Cownan, McGuffie, McCoil. Cowan only has to beat out king who is also UDFA. McCoil is in a need positoin and McGuffie has the measurables and amazing tape.
    ————————-
    Williams, McGuffie, Wetzel, Harris and Mady to PS.

    Vernon makes the team.

    McCoil, Gallington and Young are PS with a shot at making the team because of their positions.

  • rediaR

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    April 29th, 2013 at 1:33 pm
    AW,

    Cowan > King?

    I thought McCoil was a SS? think he’ll back up TB33?

    never heard of McGuffie, but he would be the 5th or 6th WR if he can beat out Butler & Session
    ——————————
    I think he does best as a deep safety. He got a lot of picks that way.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Funny a bunch of the semi pros in here had a heart attack when Reggie re-signed Adams & Francies on the opening day of free agency.. saying they were our WK1 starters at CB

    6 weeks later these guys may not even make the roster, lol

  • dr_robert

    A lot of gay haters here.

    Genesis?

    Try Jesus. He said love ur neighbor. Those without sin, cast the first stone.

    Jesus would NOT talk the way ur talking.

    Wouldn’t want to be in ur shoes when u meet Him.

    Gay children? Of course there are. Why do u think boys and girls act differently from suck a young age? Are I telling me they’re really identical until puberty?

    Boys and girls start being boys and girls very young.

    Same with gays. It’s common sense. I don’t need an organization to tell me.

    It’s not a choice. Who would choose that? It’s disgusting to a heterosexual.

    Most people who claim it’s a choice, I suspect of having those feelings and trying hard to bury them. No real heterosexual would think it’s a choice.

    CHOOSE to have homo sex when ur not?

    CHOOSE to be an outsider and weirdo?

    CHOOSE to feel like a dinner, as so many so?

    Gimme a break. They try really hard. But can’t be who they’re not.

    I think it would be unfair to a spouse to pretend u were not gay.

    Animals have gay sexy for crying out loud.

    The same right wingers who decry gayness then turn around and kill for oil.

    I’m a Christian but I don’t hate people who think differently. I don’t try to separate into groups. I don’t exclude.

    People who always look for people to look down in are not being Christian.

    Jesus hung out with sinners. It was them that needed Him most.

  • The_Judge37

    2131.RaiderRockstar Says:
    April 29th, 2013 at 1:39 pm
    Funny a bunch of the semi pros in here had a heart attack when Reggie re-signed Adams & Francies on the opening day of free agency.. saying they were our WK1 starters at CB

    6 weeks later these guys may not even make the roster, lol
    —–

    My only Question is why Reggie put so much effort into signing CB’s if his plan was to draft one a #3 all along? I no we need depth but pretty much makes the money spent on guys who won’t make it out of camp a waste

  • DennisAllensVisorHOF

    The_Judge37 Says:
    April 29th, 2013 at 1:44 pm
    2131.RaiderRockstar Says:
    April 29th, 2013 at 1:39 pm
    Funny a bunch of the semi pros in here had a heart attack when Reggie re-signed Adams & Francies on the opening day of free agency.. saying they were our WK1 starters at CB

    6 weeks later these guys may not even make the roster, lol
    —–

    My only Question is why Reggie put so much effort into signing CB’s if his plan was to draft one a #3 all along? I no we need depth but pretty much makes the money spent on guys who won’t make it out of camp a waste

    —-

    You know that they dont see that money until they make the team right?..

    Only signing bonus & gtd’ money has been spent. If there was any in their deals.

  • dr_robert

    Last thing I’ll say about it.

    Christian means follower of Christ.

    Jesus would not talk about hating anything. He was a lover, not a fighter.

    He would not hate gay people.

    If u do, I think God may well be angry with YOU!

  • 1960AutumnWind

    Rockstar

    Not sure Cowan is greter than King just a good bet because he only has to beat one player and that player is not entrenched. Cowan is the 5th highest punter on CBS Scouts list and listed as a possible 7th round pick. Here are some reports on him:

    12/05/2012 – 2012 ALL-WAC SECOND TEAM (COACHES): P-Bobby Cowan, Sr., Idaho, has been selected Second Team All-Western Athletic Conference (Coaches selection) for the 2012 college football season. Cowan etched his name in the Vandal record books and was a 2011 Football Writers Association of America All-American. He is the career punting average leader (44.7) as well as the record-holder for career punts (259) and career punting yards (11,570). He also has the single-season mark for punting yards (4,084 in 2011) after tying the record for single-season punts (88 in 2011). – Idaho football

    08/30/2012 – PLAYERS TO WATCH: P Bobby Cowan — The senior has NFL potential, averaging 46.4 yards per punt last season. He was a semifinalist for the Ray Guy Award in 2011. – The Sports Xchange

    Lack of Depth at SS so McCoil has an inside track as a BU unless they sign some FAs. Be interesting to see if he can play ST.

    McGuffie has 4.35 type speed and has a running style like Barry Sanders. There is some Ytube of him. He played for Rice this year. Has a history with concusions when playing RB at first. With that speed and style he could be the 5th WR or PS and be a backup punt returner. I think McGuffie can beat out Vernon for PS as well because of potential.

    That is why these guys are my 3.

  • bcz24

    how about refusing paid time off for Christmas
    ****************
    We would I refuse a paid vacation day (I am an exempt employee anyways, I get paid for 40 hrs a week every week whether I work 10 hours or 80, so it doesn’t matter if its a paid holiday or not) just because I don’t have a relationship with god. What about the rest of my PTO? Should I refuse that too, or just the PTO that falls on a Christian holiday? Should I also not spend the Christmas holiday with my family because I don’t believe?

  • jesusraiderjim

    @Raider O

    he’s in a cult. He can’t be that smart

    —————————————-

    I live in Southern Utah

    “Planet Kolob Cult Monkeys”

    Have seen a few pretty good Mo ballers though.

  • DennisAllensVisorHOF

    dr_robert Says:
    April 29th, 2013 at 1:46 pm
    Last thing I’ll say about it.

    Christian means follower of Christ.

    Jesus would not talk about hating anything. He was a lover, not a fighter.

    He would not hate gay people.

    If u do, I think God may well be angry with YOU!

    —-

    Actually means, to be Christ-like.

    That’s our mission.

    He laid the blueprint for us to follow.

  • spiff

    has anyone seen mcguffie on you tube. hurdling and flipping over defenders with the ball. he’s got some mad ball skills with good speed. he could be our wes welker he got some good shakes with the ball in his hand . i wish him luck

  • The_Judge37

    You know that they dont see that money until they make the team right?..

    Only signing bonus & gtd’ money has been spent. If there was any in their deals.
    ——

    Is it still counting toward the cap until they’re cut?I’m just saying he should’ve put more effort into the Dline, Oline.

  • rediaR

    “Why do so many atheists hate Christians? If u don’t believe, why do u care?”
    ———————
    Hate is strong. It’s more annoyance. It is really annoying when the culture that surrounds you is dominated by nonsense and the dismissal of reason.

  • 1960AutumnWind

    We also signed a LS – how much do we pay Condo again? That might even make 4 that make team or PS.

  • RaiderRockstar

    @Judge

    the guys Reggie signed who wont make it out of camp didn’t receive any guaranteed money and they wont count against the salary cap. Players are added & cut between now and preseason all the time from every team.

    Reggie may not have known on March 12th that Hayden was “his guy” anyways

  • DennisAllensVisorHOF

    The_Judge37 Says:
    April 29th, 2013 at 1:49 pm
    You know that they dont see that money until they make the team right?..

    Only signing bonus & gtd’ money has been spent. If there was any in their deals.
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    Is it still counting toward the cap until they’re cut?I’m just saying he should’ve put more effort into the Dline, Oline.

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    Not really.

    Under league rules, during the offseason only the contracts of the players with
    the 51 highest cap values count against a team’s salary cap

  • rediaR

    Spiff Says:
    April 29th, 2013 at 1:49 pm
    has anyone seen mcguffie on you tube. hurdling and flipping over defenders with the ball. he’s got some mad ball skills with good speed. he could be our wes welker he got some good shakes with the ball in his hand . i wish him luck
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    Yeah, I saw his highschool highlights too. Hard to find anything from interesting from college though.

  • dr_robert

    Rediar–reason? I have reason. And I’ve decided there’s a God. Sorry to annoy u.

  • The_Judge37

    Guess i’m just being a complainer then, I’ll back off.

    You win this round Mumbles

  • RaiderRockstar

    is this how you guys see the secondary shaking out?

    CB: Hayden, Porter, Jenkins, Hanson, Adams
    FS: Young, Ross
    SS: Branch, McCoil

  • rediaR

    Dr_robert Says:
    April 29th, 2013 at 1:54 pm
    Rediar–reason? I have reason. And I’ve decided there’s a God. Sorry to annoy u.
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    This is a thin road filled with potholes and black ice, and bordered on each end by a steep cliff. Lets get back to the Raiders where we mostly agree.