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Raiders trade down for the second time

By Steve Corkran
Saturday, April 27th, 2013 at 9:19 am in Oakland Raiders.

The Raiders traded their fourth-round pick (No. 100) overall for a later fourth-round pick (No. 112) and one of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers’ sixth-round picks (No. 181).
This marks the second time Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie has traded down in this year’s draft. Earlier, he traded the No. 3 pick to the Miami Dolphins for the Nos. 12 and 42 picks.
The Raiders used those picks on cornerback D.J. Hayden and offensive tackle Menelik Watson in the first and second rounds, respectively.
The Raiders now have four picks in the sixth round today and one in the seventh. They’re still without a fifth-rounder.

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  • nwr8r

    If the Arkansas program didn’t change so much last year, Wilson would have been drafted way higher this year.

  • PilagingJustForFun

    Highly rated QB much better than Bray or Nassib

  • eldiabs

    This kid is better than Flynn and Pryor… He got the crap knocked out of him last year and kept on coming…. Played LSU BAMA twice the last two years and played great

  • aig-raiders

    sad to say that I think TP’s days in Oak are numbered. I still think he can do well and hopefully he gets a shot with injuries.

  • 8RaiderReign8

    Watch Reggie use his two 6s to snipe at another pick. Thats what I would do.

  • 1960AutumnWind

    From Scout.com

    Holds 28 school records at Arkansas. Brave competitor has NFL starting QB traits, but gunslinger attitude will get him in trouble.

    Willing to stare down the barrel and deliver a strike, providing a physical example of the non-vocal, on-field leadership coaches value. Plenty of arm strength to make every NFL throw. Can fire the deep-out from the opposite hash.

  • rediaR

    Flynn is having Wilson flashbacks

  • http://goducks.com Sir RaiderDuck, OMS

    Whoknows Says:
    April 27th, 2013 at 9:55 am
    Shutdown Says:
    April 27th, 2013 at 9:54 am
    Nope. I don’t believe he wanted Barkley at all.
    ********************
    Why not?
    Do you think the Eagles jumped two spots for the hell of it?

    ========================================

    NFL Network said they were leapfrogging the Chiefs, ’cause they knew Andy Reid liked Barkley and would take him.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Terrelle Pryor is going to be the #3 QB in not too long.

  • Marks hair

    no tape or talk on wilson. I knew it…. terrible.. we were in position to add another starter at 100. what a waste…

  • Whoknows

    8RaiderReign8 Says:
    April 27th, 2013 at 9:54 am
    Whoknows Says:
    April 27th, 2013 at 9:53 am
    Since we just took Wilson it should be obvious Reggie was targeting Barkley.
    _________________________________

    That doesn’t make any sense at all. Remember he isn’t drafting for position.
    ************************
    Who says that? He did?
    So your telling me if the next time up, if a QB is on top of his board he will pick another? LOL

  • http://www.safc.com/the-club/stadium/about-the-stadium-of-light neilb

    We picked a qb? Well, that will help the run D.

  • http://www.raiders.com Silverandblack666

    It’s going to be hard for me to hate on Reggie now I love this pick!

  • Pirate Arrrggghhhh

    Whoknows Says:
    April 27th, 2013 at 9:55 am
    Shutdown Says:
    April 27th, 2013 at 9:54 am
    Nope. I don’t believe he wanted Barkley at all.
    ********************
    Why not?
    Do you think the Eagles jumped two spots for the hell of it?

    ——————————

    And the Giants jumped right in front of the Raiders to take Nassib, did they just do that for the hell of it too?

    Reggie got schooled twice in the span of 15 picks. Sad.

  • ron69

    Should trade Pryor for another 6th duh. he has no room in Olson’s Offense

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNoi_wwzbtQ Zymurge

    Pryor better start studying his clipboard holding plays. and while he’s at it, he might want to consider learning to run a few of the receiving routes if he wants to see the field.

  • http://goducks.com Sir RaiderDuck, OMS

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/profiles/tyler-wilson?id=2539201

    ANALYSIS
    STRENGTHS Good size and overall strength for a pocket passer. Tough player who bounces up after hits. Steps up into the pocket and stands tall to deliver the ball under duress -– which is just part of outstanding leadership qualities. Arm strength is very impressive in the intermediate game. Shows ability to hit stationery targets and the anticipation to lead receivers in stride and wait patiently for them to get open. Looks at multiple targets before checking down to underneath option. Quicker feet than anticipated, can get first downs on the run when defenses are in man or in deep zones. Can sling the ball into the flat from awkward release points.
    WEAKNESSES Delivery a bit longer than scouts like, his windup allows some alert defensive backs into plays downfield. While he has impressive intermediate arm strength, Wilson frequently floats or underthrows balls on deeper patterns due to a tendency to drop his elbow. Not a quick-twitch athlete; footwork coming out from under center is uneven, pro pass rushers will get him on first contact and disciplined linebackers will prevent his longer runs. Holds ball low in the pocket, vulnerable to strip-sacks. Will trust his arm and his receivers too much, throwing passes into traffic downfield.
    NFL COMPARISON Brett Favre
    BOTTOM LINE After he looked like a superstar in the making after his 2011 campaign, Wilson was unable to improve upon his junior season for a myriad of reasons, including the loss of his head coach, the departure of his three favorite receivers, and a sub-par offensive line. Wilson spent much of the year under duress, but showed impressive toughness in consistently staring down the barrel to deliver throws while getting hit, and bouncing up right after.

    While scouts will want to see more from Wilson in the vertical passing game, it’s tough to ignore his overall skill set. In addition to these quarterbacking skills, Wilson’s a proven leader and it has been reported that he comes off as quite charming in interviews with teams. When these facts are combined with the number of quarterback-needy teams in the draft, it’s very likely that Wilson will ultimately be a top-15 pick.

  • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Davis The Realist Dirty Raccoon

    Very SMART pick!

    I wanted DL Beef, but this is a really smart pick for our situation.

    Steve, what do ya think!

    O, where’s the BEEF??? Lol

    Morning Nation.

    One Nation, forever under AL.

  • redshirt

    Aig-Raiders Says:
    April 27th, 2013 at 9:52 am
    hahaha…I’ll take Tyler Wilson over Nassib or Barkley.
    ***********

    Agreed.

    1st-team All SEC in 2011. 45 TDs and 7000+ passing yards over the last two seasons against the toughest competition in college football.

  • devilr8er

    STRENGTHS Good size and overall strength for a pocket passer. Tough player who bounces up after hits. Steps up into the pocket and stands tall to deliver the ball under duress -– which is just part of outstanding leadership qualities. Arm strength is very impressive in the intermediate game. Shows ability to hit stationery targets and the anticipation to lead receivers in stride and wait patiently for them to get open. Looks at multiple targets before checking down to underneath option. Quicker feet than anticipated, can get first downs on the run when defenses are in man or in deep zones. Can sling the ball into the flat from awkward release points.
    WEAKNESSES Delivery a bit longer than scouts like, his windup allows some alert defensive backs into plays downfield. While he has impressive intermediate arm strength, Wilson frequently floats or underthrows balls on deeper patterns due to a tendency to drop his elbow. Not a quick-twitch athlete; footwork coming out from under center is uneven, pro pass rushers will get him on first contact and disciplined linebackers will prevent his longer runs. Holds ball low in the pocket, vulnerable to strip-sacks. Will trust his arm and his receivers too much, throwing passes into traffic downfield.
    NFL COMPARISON Brett Favre
    BOTTOM LINE After he looked like a superstar in the making after his 2011 campaign, Wilson was unable to improve upon his junior season for a myriad of reasons, including the loss of his head coach, the departure of his three favorite receivers, and a sub-par offensive line. Wilson spent much of the year under duress, but showed impressive toughness in consistently staring down the barrel to deliver throws while getting hit, and bouncing up right after.

    While scouts will want to see more from Wilson in the vertical passing game, it’s tough to ignore his overall skill set. In addition to these quarterbacking skills, Wilson’s a proven leader and it has been reported that he comes off as quite charming in interviews with teams. When these facts are combined with the number of quarterback-needy teams in the draft, it’s very likely that Wilson will ultimately be a top-15 pick.

  • Demon Raider

    of the QBs in this draft, Wikskn and Bray have the most upside IMO

  • http://www.safc.com/the-club/stadium/about-the-stadium-of-light neilb

    ron69 Says:
    April 27th, 2013 at 9:57 am
    Should trade Pryor for another 6th duh. he has no room in Olson’s Offense

    ==================================

    Just thinking that.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    RediaR Says:
    April 27th, 2013 at 9:56 am
    Flynn is having Wilson flashbacks
    $$$$$$$$$$$

    LOL

  • saladfingerz

    Tyler Wilson reminds me of Brett Favre!!!
    Awesome pick!!!

  • http://goducks.com Sir RaiderDuck, OMS

    Pirate Arrrggghhhh Says:
    April 27th, 2013 at 9:57 am
    Whoknows Says:
    April 27th, 2013 at 9:55 am
    Shutdown Says:
    April 27th, 2013 at 9:54 am
    Nope. I don’t believe he wanted Barkley at all.
    ********************
    Why not?
    Do you think the Eagles jumped two spots for the hell of it?

    ——————————

    And the Giants jumped right in front of the Raiders to take Nassib, did they just do that for the hell of it too?

    Reggie got schooled twice in the span of 15 picks. Sad.

    ==========================================

    Whatever. Just go ahead and think whatever the heck you want to until your meds kick in.

  • kuhlest

    Laundry Jones is better….could prolly get him in the 6th with one of our 12 6th rounders….

    reggie loves 3 things

    1-practice squad players
    2-players coming off injuries
    3-late round draft picks

  • redshirt

    Whoknows Says:
    April 27th, 2013 at 9:53 am
    Since we just took Wilson it should be obvious Reggie was targeting Barkley.
    ***********

    Barkley stinks.

  • Whoknows

    NFL Network said they were leapfrogging the Chiefs, ’cause they knew Andy Reid liked Barkley and would take him.
    ****************
    and like I said
    schefter said it was the raiders. so 50/50
    then we traded down 90/10
    then we draft a qb 99/1
    pretty easy to see. why fight it.

  • TrevJo

    Didn’t really want a QB in this year’s draft, but since we took one, I’m glad it’s Wilson. I think he has the most potential of any QB in this class. Flynn and Pryor have some more competition.

  • nwr8r

    Wilsons tough, accurate, goes through his progressions well, doesn’t lock onto his receiver and has pretty good arm strength. He’ll stand in the pocket and take a hit, not skiddish. Last year he lost both top receivers, new HC, new OC. He looked real good his Jr year

  • canadianraider

    hahaha…flynn has got to be sh1ttin himself…has to compete against another rookie qb named wilson….what are the odds lolol

  • Marks hair

    199. hardly. we need upgrades all over

  • http://goducks.com Sir RaiderDuck, OMS

    Positives
    Under-rated athletically, Wilson has consistently shown the ability to avoid pressure, gets out of the pocket and can makes plays on the move. Although his release is not pretty (A little 3/4ish and Phillip Rivers live), he can get rid of the ball quickly. Ball comes out of his hand with good zip and spiral and has the arm strength to make every NFL throw with ease when he strides into throws. Flashes willingness to patiently stand in pocket while going through progressions and can come back to check-down receiver when he finds no open receiver. When he strides into throws he can be a very accurate short and intermediate thrower. He flashes the touch and arm strength to make strong throws and accurate throws 20+ yards down the field. He is a tough kid who will battle through dings to stay on the field. When he anticipates rush getting close he has shown a willingness to throw the ball away.
    Negatives
    A frustrating player who has the talent to be outstanding, Wilson needs to become much more consistent. I wonder about his ability to consistently read the deep coverage as defensive backs are in good position to make plays on his passes way too often. While he will throw ball away in a flash when he anticipates rush, if the rush gets close to him he has a very bad habit of throwing ball off his back foot as he falls away to avoid the pressure. He does not use both hands to protect the ball when the pass rush gets close to him and this is an issue because he has small hands and has struggled with fumbles during college. It is always scary when a quarterback’s play declines his senior year as they rarely get back to their previous level of play.
    Analysis
    Having excelled in Coach Petrino’s pass friendly offense, Wilson was not as consistent in 2012 playing in a new offense under a new coach. He has a quick release even though it is not a pretty looking release and the ball usually comes out of his hand with zip and a tight spiral. My biggest issues with Wilson are his instincts/football intelligence. I wonder about his ability to see the whole field and read the defense consistently well because too often he makes throws that defenders are in good position to make a play on the ball. Additionally, he does not consistently sense/anticipate the pass rush getting close to him until too late and then he further compounds the problem by throwing the ball up for grabs while falling away off his back foot. Overall, Wilson is likely to be a late first or high second round pick, but if he does not improve in the areas mentioned above he is unlikely to become a consistent starting QB in the NFL.

    Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl/draft-2013/tracker/#ixzz2RgSkxiGj

  • Jackie Bibby

    Pryor will still get burn, will have his own packages. He does things that both flynn and wilson cant, flynn should be most worried if anybody, he has the most to lose.

  • http://www.raiders.com Silverandblack666

    I love the Tyler Wilson pick. I will buy the jersey.

    Going to renew my tickets now later dudes!

  • Just Fire Baby

    Barrett Jones in the mid 4th.

    Like I told you guys.

    Probably won’t be able to play this whole year.

    Waste of a draft pick.

  • 8RaiderReign8

    Whoknows Says:
    April 27th, 2013 at 9:57 am
    8RaiderReign8 Says:
    April 27th, 2013 at 9:54 am
    Whoknows Says:
    April 27th, 2013 at 9:53 am
    Since we just took Wilson it should be obvious Reggie was targeting Barkley.
    _________________________________

    That doesn’t make any sense at all. Remember he isn’t drafting for position.
    ************************
    Who says that? He did?
    So your telling me if the next time up, if a QB is on top of his board he will pick another? LOL
    __________________________________

    Maybe…

    Those were his words, not mine.

    He said he is drafting best player available. You know he did.

  • Whoknows

    Redshirt Says:
    April 27th, 2013 at 9:59 am
    Whoknows Says:
    April 27th, 2013 at 9:53 am
    Since we just took Wilson it should be obvious Reggie was targeting Barkley.
    ***********

    Barkley stinks.
    ****************
    I know that’s what scares me

  • irjonny

    and there goes landry jones. run on qb big time. terelle pryor might just be trade bait. completely eliminate the controversy

  • alex7

    Kuhlest

    Barrett Jones had Lisfranc surgery and will likely start the NFL season on the PUP list.

    He’ll likely be there in Round 5, not that Oakland has a pick there. Yet.

  • http://ggeden.blogspot.com/ GG

    Pryor just wont get a fair go.
    Wilson will be immediately placed #2 on depth chart.

  • Pirate Arrrggghhhh

    Hopefully Reggie will learn a lesson after botching this 4th rd so badly. We’re stuck with this pretender on scholarship for four more years.

  • ENGLANDRAIDER

    Wilson huh?

    A lot of “analysts” rank Wilson pretty highly.

  • PilagingJustForFun

    Tyler Wilson good arm

  • alex7

    Irjonny

    no one wanted to draft Pryor two years ago (some teams wanted him in the 5th round or later as a TE project)

    so no one will be trading for him this year.

  • Demon Raider

    Thank god Pryor is on her way out

  • ron69

    Manuel>Smith>Barkley>Nassib>Bray>Wilson IMO

  • nwr8r

    Ha, post 220

  • RaiderFan-n-KC

    QBs are hot in the 4th

  • SilverAndBlackBleeder

    Would’ve went d-line, but hell; it’s all about competition. Wilson was the best QB in the toughest conference. Hopefully all 3 QBs raise each other’s level of play & do well, and we can hopefully trade one of ‘em by the end of preseason or beginning of next offseason.

    Now it’s time to go D-line. This pick must mean Reggie has some deep sleepers at Safety & D-line