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Raiders helping local players with football fundamentals

By Steve Corkran
Tuesday, May 7th, 2013 at 1:58 pm in Oakland Raiders.

On Wednesday, several Raiders are scheduled to work with local high school players at Laney College as part of the NFL High School Player Development program.
Center Stefen Wisniewski, defensive end Andre Carter and cornerback Chimdi Chekwa are among those that will work with players from: Alameda, Bethel Christian, Castro Valley, Encinal, Fremont, Oakland, San Leandro, James Logan, San Lorenzo, Piedmont, Skyline, Tennyson and Sacred Heart Cathedral Prep high schools.
In other news, the Raiders rookie mini camp takes place Friday, Saturday and Sunday. The media are allowed to attend Saturday.
At that time, we will provide you with updates on how the new players look, as the coaches get their first look at the 10 players selected in the NFL draft last month, as well as the numerous undrafted free agents signed.

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  • bcz24

    Ford: Yes sir, 100 percent ready to go
    ***********
    They are still voluntary workouts. Who knows, maybe the trainers told him to skip them. Maybe he is a lazy little prick. Ford should strictly be returning punts and kicks, he doesn’t need to go to voluntary workouts for that.

  • http://www.RAIDERS.com Back-n-Black

    DJ Johnny Says:
    May 8th, 2013 at 2:00 pm

    A lot of guys look at what Reggie’s done so far and are very encouraged about the future but judgement day is on the field…period.

    So far all he’s ‘accomplished’ is taking an 8-8 team and making them 4-12 and in yr 2 presenting a roster that is widely considered to be the worst in football with some even suggesting it seems to be historically bad.

    There will hopefully come a time…sooner than later when we can look back at everything he’s done and congratulate him for doing the ground work that led us to some point of great success and it will all make sense; or when some can say they knew it all along, but that time is not now. THIS is where we’re at: 4-12 in yr 1,worst roster in football (by most accounts) yr 2. That’s what Reggie has contributed.

    If this team goes out and wins 10 games this yr then Reggie will be deemed a genius.
    …..

    Reggie had to trade in the Tahoe for a 72 VW Bug because he was broke and couldn’t make the payments.

    An 8-8 team that ended the year 22 MIL over the cap!!!!!!!!

    22 mil over the cap and still couldn’t break 500.

    He has been setting aside some money though and drafting decent guys.

    I expect him to make a run at a Corvette next year with the option to upgrade to a Ferrari the year after that.

  • RaiderRockstar

    “DMAC & JFORD both know how explosive this offense can be, no matter who’s at the helm or who’s running the ball, who’s going to be catching it. We have a whole bunch of weapons on this team right now, on both sides of the ball, and on special teams” – Jacoby Ford

    04/18/13

  • RaiderRockstar

    Ford should strictly be returning punts and kicks, he doesn’t need to go to voluntary workouts for that

    ***

    @Bcz

    sign Josh Cribbs!

  • SnBG

    If Payton was here Ford would be at the workout but we only have Flynn

  • J Hill

    I’m sure DMac, Ford, Bourne, Streater, and Criner LOL at the thought of them being the worst offensive crew in the league.

  • J Hill

    Hasn’t Ford been in every Pryor picture tweeted out?

    Who said he missed any workouts?

    SLOT smurf’s roster spot is locked up

  • RaiderRockstar

    Q: Two years here, scheme was exclusively zone, numbers not as good as following two years when got away from zone runs. Now going back to it. Greg Knapp, Kelly Skipper saying you can run any scheme? Did you have trouble running zone first two years?
    McFadden: I’m like the coaches say. I feel I can fit in any scheme running the ball. Now I feel like I’ve got my feet wet in the NFL, now I have my confidence boosted, so it’s just, going out there and playing with confidence I’m going to go out there and run the ball.

    Q: Do anything different running zone, power, same thing?
    McFadden: It’s the same thing, running behind the blockers and making the right cuts, and making the right reads, and going.

    What’s your relationship with the coach?
    It’s a coach-player relationship.

    What do you see from him?
    He is a great coach. He is very intense. If guys something to get out of him, he is going to get it out of them.

    You said you had numbers in mind last year. What were they?
    I was hoping to get 1,800 rushing yards, but it didn’t work out that way. I will keep pushing for it this year and hopefully get to those goals.

    Do you think your receiving skills could be utilized even more this year in the new offense?
    Coach Knapp is going to have a lot of great plays in, getting the H split out, so I am looking forward to that. I am a very versatile player and I like getting out there wide and catching the ball.

    http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2012/05/15/mcfadden-speaks-about-foot-injury-goals-rihanna/

    Anybody remember this?

    from 1 year ago

  • RaiderRockstar

    Hasn’t Ford been in every Pryor picture tweeted out?

    Who said he missed any workouts?

    ***

    @Jhill

    120 pictures on Raiders.com of the voluntary workouts. Ford is in none of them

    http://www.raiders.com/media-vault/photo-gallery/Voluntary-Off-Season-Workouts/4fed4221-6d33-453e-bb84-bdd2f6c498e9#07db3e2b-5a55-4df0-ac84-4605e9856355

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist

    I’ve been saying all along that I’d bring Seymour back, accepting the fact that he’s lost a bit and would be situational, for maybe up to a mil and a half…MAYBE two.

  • J Hill

    Q: Do anything different running zone, power, same thing?

    McFadden: It’s the same thing, running behind the blockers and making the right cuts, and making the right reads, and going.

    ————————————————————

    I’m sure there are a lot of so called semi’s on here there will argue with this.

    I said all last year, and continue to echo this point this offseason ……

    McFadden was flat out TURRIBLE last season. To excuse it by saying it was all scheme related is BUHHLLSSHHTTT, imo.

    I agree with DMac!!!!

    Read your damn blocks and choose the right hole!!!!

    Personally, I question if he’s lost a half a step or so from the foot injury.

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist

    120 pictures on Raiders.com of the voluntary workouts. Ford is in none of them

    He took the pictures. In a boot.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Exactly, Jhill

    #911 co-signed

  • RaiderRockstar

    i’m out for the day. nite gents

    Go Heat!!

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNoi_wwzbtQ Zymurge

    Thec Says:
    May 7th, 2013 at 7:05 pm
    Dr_robert Says:
    May 7th, 2013 at 7:02 pm
    He has a better chance at WR than at qb.

    When the choice inevitably comes down to either playing WR or being out if the nfl, why not try it?

    ++++++++++=

    I am not sure he would WANT to do that.

    Him switch to another position, with his heart not fully into it, could get him killed.

    ======

    Well, there’s always the option of flipping burgers.

    The point is that once he fails to land a spot as a QB for any NFL team it will be about him deciding if he wants to continue a career as an NFL player where he can use his elite athleticism to make a better living than any other job he could find.

  • The Big Banana

    So why are we returning to PBS then? Our oline can’t grasp the ZBS?

    Post 908 serves as proof that you should take anything the players with a grain of salt. It’s all propaganda. Nobody’s gonna come out and say, ‘yeah, this ZBS is crap and I don’t think it’ll work but I’ll give it a go and see what happens. What choice do I have?”

  • Priesttj12

    SnBG Says:
    May 8th, 2013 at 12:58 pm
    The_Judge37 Says:
    May 8th, 2013 at 12:48 pm
    Yes Hue had his faults, so did Tom Cable. Our problem is that they were both better as HC and more qualified than Dennis Allen.
    ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
    No, Hue didn’t have the Psychological make up to be a HC. He panicked when JC went down and got Palmer in a trade that so many posters here still complain about. He should have stayed calm and thus preserving the draft picks.Tom Cable, lets see. Didn’t he smack one of his assistants? and wasn’t there something about him hitting he wife??????Good example for the team.
    *********************************************
    At least he did something instead of sit there and take a beating week after week. There is no case for DA over Hue. You sound like a fool. Stop now while you just look stupid.

  • Priesttj12

    Dude is grasping at straws when we all saw what happened. Hue jackson was much better coac than DA he added more to this org. than both Reggie and DA have so far. Move on man!

    Next subject!

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNoi_wwzbtQ Zymurge

    J Hill Says:
    May 8th, 2013 at 2:28 pm
    Q: Do anything different running zone, power, same thing?

    McFadden: It’s the same thing, running behind the blockers and making the right cuts, and making the right reads, and going.

    ————————————————————

    I’m sure there are a lot of so called semi’s on here there will argue with this.

    I said all last year, and continue to echo this point this offseason ……

    McFadden was flat out TURRIBLE last season. To excuse it by saying it was all scheme related is BUHHLLSSHHTTT, imo.

    I agree with DMac!!!!

    Read your damn blocks and choose the right hole!!!!

    Personally, I question if he’s lost a half a step or so from the foot injury.

    =====

    Actually, I think what’s missing is the grey matter. His entire career, I’m sure all the way back to Pop Warner, has been predicated on him being by far the fastest player on the field. He never had to learn to read holes, he just had to run through them really fast. Go look at his colege highlights and you’ll see the same thing over and over and over:
    - Gaping hole
    - DMac flies through it untouched
    - He then outsprints the DBs taking bad angles

    Did he get better in certain areas in the NFL since? Absolutely. I’m very impressed by his blocking in pass protection. He learned how to drop his shoulder into tacklers and to not let his legs go dead on first contact, which was the knock on him in the draft. He has become a more complete RB as a result.

    But he hasn’t shown any indication of learning how to read the blocking and still seems to want to just run at full speed into where he wants the hole to be, whether it develops or not.

    That is why certain guys accel in the ZBS. It’s the system for the cerebral RB. Just imagine what a guy like Marcus Allen would’ve done in today’s NFL with a team like the Texans that runs the ZBS so well. We’d be talking about him and not AP breaking records.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    This is really a trip, and would be perfect balance and full circle jc there and tp 6 here

    THANKS CARSON

    http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2013/05/cleveland_browns_quarterback_j_9.html#incart_river

  • inonewordraider

    good to see established vets like andre carter and kevin burnett at voluntary workouts

    interesting to see no sign of ford burris or sims

    and wow, flynn is on scrawny dude

  • The Big Banana

    Inonewordraider Says:
    May 8th, 2013 at 2:46 pm
    good to see established vets like andre carter and kevin burnett at voluntary workouts

    interesting to see no sign of ford burris or sims

    and wow, flynn is on scrawny dude

    —–

    Our punter could probably break our QB in half

  • SnBG

    Millions of dollars towards the Raiders 2011 roster.Hue trades away draft picks for Palmer and still can’t get to the playoffs in a weak AFC div. Blames the refs for the penalties.Blames the players in public for the penalties and people want to fire Reg and DA for cleaning up the mess left by…….you know who. Absurd…Next subject

  • http://profootballtalk.com Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush)

    Josh Cribbs – WR – Free Agent Free agent Josh Cribbs visited the Raiders on Wednesday.
    Per USA Today’s Mike Garofolo, Cribbs has other visits “lined up.” Cribbs visited the Cardinals in March, but wasn’t healthy enough to sign as he recovered from meniscus surgery. After failing over and over again as a receiver, Cribbs would likely be signed as a return specialist in Oakland.
    —————————-
    Sign him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNoi_wwzbtQ Zymurge

    The Big Banana Says:
    May 8th, 2013 at 2:36 pm
    So why are we returning to PBS then? Our oline can’t grasp the ZBS?

    Post 908 serves as proof that you should take anything the players with a grain of salt. It’s all propaganda. Nobody’s gonna come out and say, ‘yeah, this ZBS is crap and I don’t think it’ll work but I’ll give it a go and see what happens. What choice do I have?”

    ======

    Based on the production of every RB not wearing #20 behind the ZBS, the OL was doing just fine with it. Reece, Stewart and Goodson ran a combined 593 yards on 119 carries. That’s less than .02 shy of a 5 Yds/Attempt average that would have had the Raiders as the number 5 team in the league in that key stat.

    The team is returning to the PBS because the powers that be decided that they want to optimize around DMac, as one of the most expensive guys still under contract (9.6M cap hit!).

    If Reggie is really brilliant, then what he should do is gear the whole offense around making DMac look awesome to start the season. Have him running back at 2011 form and near a league leader for the first 3-5 games. Then wait for a contending team to lose their starting RB to injury and trade DMac for max value to them, maybe even getting a 1st rounder out of him.

    Why? Because DMac walks as a UFA next season anyway. His pre-season trade value was nil due to his huge contract and horrid 2012. This is a way to get he most out of him and to continue to add future value to a team that is clearly in turnaround mode anyway.

  • inonewordraider

    SnBG Says:
    May 8th, 2013 at 2:51 pm
    Millions of dollars towards the Raiders 2011 roster.Hue trades away draft picks for Palmer and still can’t get to the playoffs in a weak AFC div. Blames the refs for the penalties.Blames the players in public for the penalties and people want to fire Reg and DA for cleaning up the mess left by…….you know who. Absurd…Next subject

    ____
    we can go on and on about this but those “millions” spent doesn’t mean the players were any good. how much are those players getting paid now?

  • aig-raiders

    Yup sign Cribbs for cheap if we can. Instant playmaker.

    As for DMAC, dude is never a ZBS back.

  • inonewordraider

    Sign him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    ________
    fords a talented returner, but is he putting in the work it takes to be good?

  • willy91137

    I hope Jason Campbell plays better in Cleveland they did in Chicago

    he really wasn’t that good in Oakland either

    Joss cribs is a pretty good receiver we could use him after June there will be lots of players on the market

    am sure Reggie will sign some more

  • The_Civilian_James_Trapp

    Priesttj12 Says:
    May 8th, 2013 at 12:26 pm
    8-8>4-12……..plain and simple.

    =========

    Not to the Denise apologists.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    DJ HAYDEN is a guy im most interested to see on defense

    on offense no question pryor is the straw that stirs the drink.

    wilson will be a number 3 qb I dont see him ever being anything more than that for his career, maybe a number 2 one day.

    flynn and wilson simply dont have it.

    It seems that pryor is already the man in raider land amongst the players, and flyyn is simply holding the seat warm while trying to win over his team mates and coaches.

    pryor is a far better player all around than the other two, that includes passing.

    pryor had a higher completion % in his final college year than both wilson and flynn did in theirs.

    there will be some pained expressions for those that have written pryor off this season.

    I cant wait to remind you when it happens.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNoi_wwzbtQ Zymurge

    The Big Banana Says:
    May 8th, 2013 at 2:47 pm
    Inonewordraider Says:
    May 8th, 2013 at 2:46 pm
    good to see established vets like andre carter and kevin burnett at voluntary workouts

    interesting to see no sign of ford burris or sims

    and wow, flynn is on scrawny dude

    —–

    Our punter could probably break our QB in half

    =======

    No kidding. King is ripped. Looks like he can play backup SS if needed.

    If you look carefully, Flynn is the only guy using the baby sized plates on that stand on one leg thing they’re doing.

  • The_Civilian_James_Trapp

    SnBG Says:
    May 8th, 2013 at 2:51 pm
    Millions of dollars towards the Raiders 2011 roster.Hue trades away draft picks for Palmer and still can’t get to the playoffs in a weak AFC div. Blames the refs for the penalties.Blames the players in public for the penalties and people want to fire Reg and DA for cleaning up the mess left by…….you know who. Absurd…Next subject

    ==========

    You do realize that SD & KC were worse than the 2011 version last year. And yes Denver were better, but I think they beat 2 teams last year with a winning record. So when you’re downplaying Hue’s quality wins & bragging up the Donkos, you might wanna think about that.

    Also, only a mind-controlled sheep would think that the league doesn’t have it in for the Raiders when it comes to penalties. It’s one of those stats that the NFL won’t let us find online. But don’t worry, there’s plenty of happy indentured servants in this country who are bought off with their iPhones to do any research.

    One last thing, Shreg & Denise have created their own mess. See Mt. Davis & the Knapp-pollak-hoffman hires.

  • http://www.actionext.com/playlist_57486.html La Milicia Negra

    Uhhhh Joshua Cribbs is in oakland for a looksee, sign him dammit!

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Terrelle Pryor

    geno smith

    ej manual

    jason cambell

    cam newton

    rg3

    eagle 7

    josh freeman

    kaeprnic

    r wilson

    tahj boyd and teddy bridgewater on deck

    this aint your daddies nfl…AND THANK GOD FOR IT!

    this is going to be an awesome year

  • No Mas Diamante

    Marks hair Says:
    May 7th, 2013 at 2:28 pm
    more and more reports ranking us dead last.. as a starting lineup and as a team.. sick
    ********************************************

    Report this… that’s why they play the games. Could care less what about any predictions by any writer or talking head.

  • papertiger418

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/05/08/josh-cribbs-kicks-off-world-tour-in-oakland/

    Wonder if Jacoby is nervous. Trade bait, perhaps? How much are we paying him, anyway?

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    Denarious Moore is the worst Return man I’ve ever seen.

    But………they kept using him.

  • The_Civilian_James_Trapp

    http://goldengatesports.com/2013/05/08/oakland-raiders-scouts-shocked-about-drafting-d-j-hayden-see-risks-in-raiders-picks/?utm_source=FanSided&utm_medium=Network&utm_campaign=Trending

    Scouts concluded that the Raiders’ selections in the later rounds (Tyler Wilson, Nick Kasa, Mychal Rivera, Latavius Murray, Brice Butler, and David Bass) have “boom-or-bust” potential, but thought they were “solid selections by McKenzie and some could contend to start immediately.”
    Overall, however, the concensus around the league is that McKenzie took a gamble in the draft, especially with his first selection in Hayden.

  • ShanghaiSmith

    Pn paper you are right that 2 year deals would put us in a more favorable position. However, these 1 year deals are superior in principle, as they create a true expectation of immediate performance. The history of player performance in contract years corroborates this. And this expectation is needed to running off on the young guys, in order to change the culture.

  • ShanghaiSmith

    Referring to :

    Nycraider Says:
    May 8th, 2013 at 7:46 am
    Dumping all that salary serves what benefit?signing Dmac? probably not gonna happen? signing big ticket free agents? probably not gonna happen.dumping all that salary could have been done over time. Also in this years Free agent market reggie could have loaded more money on next years contract so we could have been more attractive to some quality free agents.
    Everyone does backflips bc Reggie cut salary and we will be big time under the cap next year. But if you dont use that space then what good is it. Im not suggersting we do 3-5 yr deals. But 2 year deals would leave us in a better position and I dont think big Reggie will be a player in the FA market next year.
    Remember a gm IMO should be evaluated on his ability to rebuild not destroy

  • ShanghaiSmith

    To rub off on young players**

  • The_Civilian_James_Trapp
  • ShanghaiSmith

    Damn cellphone wasn’t created for real man fingers

  • aig-raiders

    Report this… that’s why they play the games. Could care less what about any predictions by any writer or talking head.
    ———
    100% correct. I laugh when these semis come on here and whine about how people grade our draft. Who cares. You think a national writer knows more about us than even us?

  • Thec

    J Hill Says:
    May 8th, 2013 at 2:18 pm
    Hasn’t Ford been in every Pryor picture tweeted out?

    Who said he missed any workouts?

    SLOT smurf’s roster spot is locked up

    ++++++++==

    This is one Semi who gets it…

    RR, you speculating he missed OTA’s however, you have no proof he missed them.

  • inonewordraider
  • The_Civilian_James_Trapp

    Scouts See Risk in Raiders’ Draft

    Published May 8, 2013
    By Charlie Campbell – @draftcampbell

    Oakland Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie is highly regarded in league circles. Coaches, scouts and agents have all expressed that they believe McKenzie knows what he is doing and can turn the downtrodden franchise around. However, scouts were surprised at the risks that McKenzie took in what was essentially his first real draft as Oakland’s general manager.

    The Raiders were without any picks in the 2012 NFL Draft until the third day. Oakland had a compensatory pick at the end of the third round, but that was the highest selection the team had. WalterFootball.com reported in the final days before 2013 NFL Draft that the Raiders were badly trying to move down and that they loved Houston cornerback D.J. Hayden. We also learned that if Eric Fisher or Luke Joeckel had been available, and Oakland found itself unable to trade down, the organization would have selected one of those offensive tackles.

    The Raiders managed to move down with the Miami Dolphins and were able to land a second-round pick. Oakland was without its original second-round pick due to the Carson Palmer trade. The Raiders, sitting at No. 12 due to the Dolphins’ trade, suprisingly passed on Florida defensive tackle Sharrif Floyd for Hayden. Sources with Oakland said the organization loved both players.

    Scouts have told WalterFootball.com they were surprised McKenzie went with Hayden. Both Oakland’s secondary and defensive line are sorely lacking talent, but scouts feel that Floyd was the safer pick. Hayden almost died on the practice field at Houston last fall after a routine collision tore a major vein to his heart. He has been cleared medically, but a number of teams are scared of the injury happening again.

    The Raiders don’t share that concern, but there is no history of a player having dealt with and returned after this injury. That resulted in other teams giving Hayden a second-round grade. Given the lack of talent on Oakland’s roster, scouts were shocked McKenzie would draft a risky player like Hayden with his initial first-round pick as a general manager.

    Oakland took Florida State offensive tackle Menelik Watson in the second round. Some teams had given him a first-round grade. The British product has size, speed, strength and athletic ability. Watson is an upside projection since he only played one season of big-time college football.

    The Raiders selected some more prospects with boom-or-bust potential on the third day of the 2013 NFL Draft. Those choices included Arkansas quarterback Tyler Wilson, Colorado tight end Nick Kasa, Tennessee tight end Mychal Rivera, Central Florida running back Latavius Murray, San Diego State wide receiver Brice Butler and Missouri Western defensive end David Bass. Scouts felt those were solid selections by McKenzie and some could contend to start immediately.

    Oakland’s roster was a massive mess when McKenzie took over. The team was in a horrible salary-cap situation and lacking draft picks. Essentially, the Raiders were worse off than an expansion franchise.

    If the picks of Hayden and Watson work out, they will help get Oakland back to zero entering the 2014 offseason when the franchise has all its draft picks and a ton of salary cap space to work with. If the Hayden and Watson selections backfire, however, the Raiders will be further behind competitive football. Scouts said they were surprised that McKenzie took such big gambles in the 2013 NFL Draft. For the sake of Oakland’s fans, hopefully those risks will pan out to validate the belief in McKenzie by coaches, scouts and agents.

  • SnBG

    You do realize that SD & KC were worse than the 2011 version last year. And yes Denver were better, but I think they beat 2 teams last year with a winning record. So when you’re downplaying Hue’s quality wins & bragging up the Donkos, you might wanna think about that.
    ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
    If Hue was here last year and played against the Broncos he’d be 6-10 at best and with the injuries we had last year he would have lost one or two more.5-11. If he didn’t ignore the cap issues he would have let some players go also and lost maybe one or two more games.4-12 or 3-13.

  • The Big Banana

    If you look carefully, Flynn is the only guy using the baby sized plates on that stand on one leg thing they’re doing.

    —–

    You don’t have to look all that carefully. All the others with man weights and Flynn using Amy Trask’s equipment.