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Quick hits from OTA on Monday

By Steve Corkran
Monday, May 20th, 2013 at 12:38 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Raiders coach Dennis Allen has to be thrilled with the way things went Monday, if for no other reason than he had 100 percent attendance among the players eligible to attend the offseason practice.
Even wide receiver/kick returner Josh Cribbs and linebacker Miles Burris were on the field, though they still are recovering from injuries and not cleared to participate.
Quarterback Kyle Padron and running back Deonte Williams were the only two players not here, and they aren’t here only because they aren’t allowed to until their college classes graduate. Allen said he expects both players to miss most of the OTAs.
Allen pegged attendance at 98 percent during offseason workouts, which qualifies as nothing short of outstanding.
Heck, Allen even convinced kicker Sebastian Janikowski to attend. Janikowski routinely skipped all but the mandatory mini camp in recent seasons.
“That just goes to show the type of guys that we’re bringing into the program here,” Allen said. “These guys have done a great job all the way throughout the offseason program.”
Allen said he spoke with Janikowski awhile back and laid out a plan for the offseason.
The best thing, Allen said, is Janikowski “wanted to do it.”

– Offensive linemen Jared Veldheer, Tony Bergstron, Stefen Wisniewsk, Mike Brisiel and Khalif Barnes, from left to right, worked with the first-team offense.
That portends Bergstrom getting the first crack at replacing veteran Cooper Carlisle at left guard. Bergstrom played only sparingly last season as a rookie.
Allen said Bergstrom’s skill set lends to his playing guard. Bergstrom worked at guard and offensive tackle last season.
“That was something, when we drafted him, that was kind of our long term vision for what we saw in him that he would be a guard and he’s been a nice fit there at the guard,” Allen said. “So, we’ll see how it plays out through the offseason.”
Allen also said that he intends to “mix and match” guys along the offensive line during upcoming practices in an attempt to find the best five players.

– Brandian Ross now is a safety. We’ll see if that changes if the Raiders are successful in landing Charles Woodson, who now is a safety, too.
Ross played cornerback most of the time for the Raiders last season. However, Allen said, his skill set is a better fit at safety.
The Raiders are in need of a replacement for departed veteran free safety Michael Huff.
“When you bring him in as a corner, you let him go out there and you see how they do,” Allen said. “Their skill set, at the end of the day, dictates that. Guys like Brandian Ross, Brandian Ross can go out there and play corner in this league and be able to hold up, but his skill set probably lends him a little bit more valuable as a safety.”
Ross and Usama Young are candidates to replace Huff, though adding Woodson no doubt would shake up that vision.

– Allen said he is hopeful of being able to sign Woodson, who is scheduled to visit the Raiders on Tuesday.
“We’ll see. I want to do anything we can to help this team get better,” Allen said. “So, we’ll see how that process goes.”
The Raiders reportedly already made an initial offer to Woodson. The 49ers and Denver Broncos are the only two teams that Woodson has met with since he was released by the Green Bay Packers.

– Rookie tight end Nick Kasa (hamstring) and Porter (calf) weren’t able to finish practice today because of their injuries.

– Quarterbacks Tyler Wilson and Matt Flynn looked sharp for most of practice. Their passes were crisp, on time and on target, for the most part.
Third-year quarterback Terrelle Pryor didn’t look near as sharp, though he did make a few nice throws. Pryor’s passes still are too wobbly and off the mark to be considered a legitimate contender for the starting job.
As for Wilson, Allen played the rookie card, meaning he isn’t about to heap much praise on a first-year player for fear of it going to that player’s head.
“He’s looked pretty good,” Allen said. “Obviously this is the first day that we’ve actually been out there and had a chance to go offense versus defense. We still have a long way to go.”
When pressed further, Allen went right back to the rookie slant.
“I know he does some good things,” Allen said. “Obviously, he’s a rookie. And he’s got a long way to go. He’s not the finished product at all.”

– Allen singled out veterans such as running back Darren McFadden, fullback Marcel Reece and defensive end Lamarr Houston as guys he is counting upon to show the younger guys the ropes.
He later added defensive end Andre Carter, who signed with the Raiders midway through last season and was re-signed this offseason.
“That’s one of the big reasons why we brought Andre back is because he does provide that leadership and he’s the type of guy that we’re looking for, that has those characteristics, that loves football, he wants to work, he wants to do anything to help this team win,” Allen said. “So, the more guys that we can get like that, the better we’re going to be.”

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  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Will not*

    The offer is their punk. Anytime….
    We all know punks like you are all talk….
    You said you can punch people like me.
    I said I’m willing to pay good money to see such a thing.
    Now you want me to sent my info to see if you have time to come to SD?! lol
    Admit you a punk, and I will let it go.
    Punch people like me in the face?!?! That’s funny…

  • 8RaiderReign8

    MR..Realest Of The Real, Stickiest Of The Icky Says:
    May 20th, 2013 at 1:06 pm
    Get rid of Pryor too. Every stench of the old culture gone.
    ______________________

    Uh ooooohhhhhh…. He returns!

  • realtruraider

    Charles Woodson is set to visit the Oakland Raiders Tuesday, and they may not be the longshot to sign the free agent cornerback that some (including me) thought they were.

    Woodson started his career with the Raiders, and the opportunity to go full circle intrigues him, he said Sunday at a charity event at the University of Michigan.

    “It would be a really big thing to go back to Oakland being that I played there really most of my career,” Woodson told the Maize and Blue News. “I played there eight years and Green Bay seven. So I spent most of my career in Oakland and I still have a lot of friends there. I still know people in the organization. It would be a homecoming of sorts if it were to happen, so we’ll see.”

    Woodson has already had visits with the 49ers and the Broncos, and while he would prefer to play for a contender, the money has to be right as well. The Panthers, Giants and Lions may also be in play, and Woodson said he has no idea where he winds up.

    “I don’t have any idea really,” said Woodson on Sunday. “I plan on playing. I have a visit set up this week with the Oakland Raiders, so I’ll go out there and sit down with the coaching staff, GM and all of that, and we’ll figure it out from there.”

    The eight-time NFL Pro Bowler is in no rush to sign for less money since it’s only May. The next step in the process is visiting Oakland (and there is a lot of talk on Twitter that there will be fans in the parking lot to greet him Tuesday.)

    “What I’ve said is that if I make it out of Oakland, and there’s not a deal done, then I’m still open,” Woodson said.

    http://blog.sfgate.com/raiders/2013/05/20/woodson-would-be-really-big-thing-to-go-back-to-oakland/

  • The_Judge37

    thank you and i understand your point. i think i was struggling with the charlies and bcz24 acting like Reggie deserves accolades for signing players to 1 year deals.it made no sense to me
    ———-

    Yeah prove it contracts don’t mean Jack if you let the player walk when they “Prove it”. So can’t praise him for simply that.

  • http://raiderettes.com MR..realest of the real, stickiest of the icky

    the point is, Duck, Pryor is a project. He’s not a right now guy. So why are we bothering? We have a drafted QB. Why are we developing someone with issues? That’s what I mean by the old culture. It’s a new day in Oakland and there’s no room for Terrelle Pryor.

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    DA talking about “skill sets” and what Players do best. Smh.

  • beechraider

    I like to start out blogerbrothers as stating I could care less what color my qb is. I just want one that converts 3rd downs, scores tds in the red zone and wins more games than he loses.
    in listening to DAs press conference, i got the sense their would be a legitimate qb competition. He did not give Flynn a ringing endorsement. i truly believe DA probably knows hes next to go, so my instinct is all he cares about is winning and will pick that qb who gives him the best chance to keep his job.

  • DutchRaider77

    Exactly, but once in a while you have to pretend to be offended…so they keep using the word.

    *****************************************
    ?? so if i go out with a Chinese girl….
    would you call us Cheese and Cracker ??

    _______________________________________________

    Had to google it…learn somthing new everyday!

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cheese%20cracker

  • severeraiderz

    Both of those 8-8 seasons are owed to hue jackson

  • http://goducks.com Sir RaiderDuck, OMS

    MR..Realest Of The Real, Stickiest Of The Icky Says:
    May 20th, 2013 at 1:10 pm
    the point is, Duck, Pryor is a project. He’s not a right now guy. So why are we bothering? We have a drafted QB. Why are we developing someone with issues? That’s what I mean by the old culture. It’s a new day in Oakland and there’s no room for Terrelle Pryor.

    ========================================

    I will say that if his accuracy issues are still there in this, his second training camp and third season, maybe it’s time for DA and Reggie to sit him down and say “You’re a great athlete, but you’re not an NFL QB. Now which would you prefer to play: DB, WR, or TE? Or would you rather we release you?”

  • Dakota

    I don’t care what color he is…them there passes suuuuuuck.

  • guest123

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    She asked the teller, ‘Why it change? Yesterday, I get two hunat dolla fo yen. Today I only get hunat eighty? Why it change?’

    The teller shrugged his shoulders and said, ‘Fluctuations.’

    The Asian lady says, ‘Fluc you white people too!’

  • http://raiderettes.com MR..realest of the real, stickiest of the icky

    Why are we doing “ifs” with Pryor? I don’t want ifs. I want a QB, now. And both Wilson and Flynn are better than Pryor.

  • bcz24

    thank you and i understand your point. i think i was struggling with the charlies and bcz24 acting like Reggie deserves accolades for signing players to 1 year deals.it made no sense to me
    *********
    WTF does everyone keep throwing my name around for. I did say Reggie deserves accolades for signing guys to 1 year deals. I said it is smart business to sign older vets (especially those coming off injury) to 1 year deals.

    I’m sure the plan isn’t to let them walk after they perform, but in the case of Wheeler, it would have been stupid to get him a long term contract after 6 good games, and it would have been stupid to pay him what Miami paid him. So, in the end Reggie conducted smart business. He needs no accolades for that, it is expected of him.

  • Dakota

    59.severeraiderz Says:
    May 20th, 2013 at 1:14 pm
    Both of those 8-8 seasons are owed to hue jackson

    ++++++++++++++++

    yep

  • R8ER MIKE

    LMFAO Guest !!!

  • bcz24

    The Asian lady says, ‘Fluc you white people too!’
    *************
    Well played sir. Well played.

    LOL that was a good one.

  • DutchRaider77

    MR..realest of the real, stickiest of the icky Says:
    May 20th, 2013 at 1:10 pm
    the point is, Duck, Pryor is a project. He’s not a right now guy. So why are we bothering? We have a drafted QB. Why are we developing someone with issues? That’s what I mean by the old culture. It’s a new day in Oakland and there’s no room for Terrelle Pryor
    _____________________________________________________

    So you don’t think that we could look like the (gulp), forty niners of last year with the Alex Smith role played by Matt Flynn, Kappy=Pryor and Tolzien is Wilson?

    Did Kappy still look pretty raw last year in Camp?

  • http://raiderettes.com MR..realest of the real, stickiest of the icky

    If Pryor is accurate…

    If Pryor has pocket presence…

    If Pryor makes good decisions…

    Isn’t this the case with any QB?

    Why are we looking for:

    Is accurate.

    Has pocket presence.

    Makes good decisions.

    Has accuracy.

    Has leadership skills.

    Why ifs? Are we running a school?

  • http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2086/2227115983_dbb4f50f2e.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    Child please? Sis?

    Please kids I’m at work!!!!

    Rockstar Balboa v Mustafa Creed ding ding ding!

  • http://raiderettes.com MR..realest of the real, stickiest of the icky

    You don’t play long shots, Dutch. You go with the probabilities.

  • http://goducks.com Sir RaiderDuck, OMS

    I’m just seeing someone in Pryor who is a world-class athlete with a world-class work ethic. Even if he can’t throw well enough to play quarterback, it seems a pity to throw that away when he has the raw tools to play several other positions.

  • http://goducks.com Sir RaiderDuck, OMS

    New post.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Anymore excuses punk?

    Tell you what, I’m willing to bet that my gay neighbor can make you assume the fetal position after he slaps you. I’ll put a $500 on that too.
    A lot of money for a bean counter from Podunk to turn down. Free trip to SD and a $500 bet to fight a “gey” guy.

  • http://www.psalm23sportswear.com omniscience

    Who really cares 8-8 season are you serious may have been better record weaker schedule last year schedule was brutal. also I believe raiders squad and future now looks way better than what Hue or Cable would be able to put together

  • http://www.psalm23sportswear.com omniscience

    Don`t think all those players we signed was because of Reggie most of them said Coach Allen was big in there decision he is respected….

  • beechraider

    Bcz24 Says:
    May 20th, 2013 at 1:16 pm
    thank you and i understand your point. i think i was struggling with the charlies and bcz24 acting like Reggie deserves accolades for signing players to 1 year deals.it made no sense to me
    *********
    WTF does everyone keep throwing my name around for. I did say Reggie deserves accolades for signing guys to 1 year deals. I said it is smart business to sign older vets (especially those coming off injury) to 1 year deals.

    I’m sure the plan isn’t to let them walk after they perform, but in the case of Wheeler, it would have been stupid to get him a long term contract after 6 good games, and it would have been stupid to pay him what Miami paid him. So, in the end Reggie conducted smart business. He needs no accolades for that, it is expected of him.
    ________________________________________________________
    but for example, Wheeler made under a million dollars . Imagine if he signed him for 2 years ..it would have been a lot cheaper than wheeler 25 million contract he got from the phins. 1 year contracts dont seem to deserve accolades. thats what was confusing me. It sounds from the article below Sir regionald has learned his lessons. Maybe some of the semis in here could learn too.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1568849-oakland-raiders-gm-reggie-mckenzie-has-learned-from-philip-wheelers-departure

  • http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2086/2227115983_dbb4f50f2e.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    Mustafa, “bean counter” is copyrighted by BSJ, tyvm!

  • dkernwvu@gmail.com

    I haven’t read every comment posted here, so excuse me if this redundant but any news on Manelik Watson? I have heard nothing about his performances in mini camp and the most recent OTA. I know he’s a raw prospect but he’s got to win that right-side job at some point this season. Barnes is a borderline starter and doesn’t represent real quality competition and we need insurance in case Reggie decides (“like a dumbbell”) not to resign Veldheer.

  • redshirt

    I’m sorry, but after reading Cork’s post all I can say is….

    PLAYOFFS!!!

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  • oakfasho

    80.redshirt Says:
    May 20th, 2013 at 6:27 pm
    I’m sorry, but after reading Cork’s post all I can say is….

    PLAYOFFS!!!

    ————————————————————- Here we go with the retards again. Playoffs omfg! Not a chance in hell.