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Notes, quotes and observations from today’s OTA

Naturally, cornerback D.J. Hayden being hospitalized with an abdominal issue is the big news concerning the Raiders today. However, there is plenty to talk about in terms of what transpired at practice today.
For starters, coach Dennis Allen said he wasn’t thrilled by the way his players practiced today. He attributed some of that to the fact the players were away the past four days and needed to shake off the rust.
“It was obvious that we had the long (layoff) with Memorial Day weekend,” Allen said. “I don’t think we were as crisp as we needed to be in practice today. We only get a certain amount of opportunities and we didn’t practice the way that we needed to today.
“The good news is the guys are still out there, they’re competing and they’re trying to do everything we’re asking them to do to get better.”
Quarterback Matt Flynn said he and his teammates didn’t need to be told that they need to do better than they did today. As Allen said, Flynn and the others have Wednesday and Thursday to get back in synch and keep progressing in a positive way.

– Kicker Sebastian Janikowski is the only player, besides Hayden, that wasn’t at practice today. Wide receiver Josh Cribbs (knee), linebacker Miles Burris (knee), cornerback Tracy Porter (knee) and fullback Jon Hoese (calf) were among those unable to participate.
Tight end Nick Kasa (hamstring), nose tackle Johnny Jones (knee), defensive tackle Stacy McGee (foot) and cornerback Coye Francies (illness) either weren’t able to practice at all or were limited.

– Al Davis despised the word “rebuilding.” He was fond of saying, “We don’t rebuild, we reload.” Count Allen among those that doesn’t warm to the dreaded “R” word, as well.
“I wouldn’t use the term rebuilding,” Allen said. “We’re trying to win. That’s what you do in this league. You try to win football games. We’re going to do whatever we feel like we need to do to try to do that. I do think we’ve brought in some pieces that will help us in that regard.”
Reaching the desired goal of building a championship-caliber team is going to take time, Allen admits. Bringing in veteran players such as cornerbacks Charles Woodson and Porter that have played for Super Bowl teams is a huge help.
“The teams that have success, eventually, at some point in time, the players take over,” Allen said. “When they understand the commitment that it takes to have success in this league and to win in this league, and figure out how to do that on a consistent basis, those guys have to understand what the expectations are.
“When their expectations of themselves are equal to or greater to what our expectations of them as coaches are then that’s when you got them. I don’t think we’re there yet. But we’re moving in that direction.”

– Speaking of Woodson, he donned a Raiders uniform on the practice field Tuesday for the first time since his first Raiders stint ended after the 2005 season.
No, he’s not wearing No. 24. Yet. For now, Porter still owns the rights to the number Woodson wore during his first eight seasons with the Raiders. Woodson wore a black shirt without a number Tuesday.
“We got him out there in a limited role, and he’s still feeling his way around a little bit,” Allen said. “I don’t have any concerns that he’ll be ready to roll. We’ll kind of work him in a little bit. We’ll kind of work him in a little more as we keep going.”
Woodson signed with the Raiders last week, even though he had an opportunity to sign with the Denver Broncos. Allen said that’s another sign that the Raiders are headed in the right direction.
“In talking with Charles when he came in on the visit, it was apparent to me that he wanted to be a part of the Raiders,” Allen said. “This is a tradition rich organization, and he can see some of the things that we’re doing to try to get back to those winning ways. At the end of the day as a player, a coach or whatever, you want to have a vision for success. We’re putting some of those pieces together.”
Woodson said Allen and general manager Reggie McKenzie sold him on the Raiders during their visit last week.
“I was really sold on the fact that they believe on the guys that they have here,” Woodson said. “Of course, you can always use more and as the years come up, they’ll be able to do some more things. But they really have a lot of faith in the guys that they have on the roster right now.
“Who knows what this team will be at the end of the season, but I was convinced that this team will compete, this team will be in games, and we look forward to going out there and wearing the silver and black proudly.”
The warm reception Woodson received from fans at the Alameda facility the day he visited reaffirmed his faith in the Raider Nation.
“I know what it’s like to have this fan base behind you,” Woodson said, who played for the Raiders from 1998-2005. “That’s a big deal. There’s a lot of energy here. A lot of these guys don’t know that, they don’t know that feeling to be that type of team here and have the fans behind you. To have the fans here at the facility last week welcoming me back meant a lot and I appreciate Raider Nation for that. ”

– Lucas Nix got a shot at showing what he can do at left guard with the first-team offense today. Last week, it was Tony Bergstrom running with the ones.
It’s all part of offensive line coach Tony Sparano’s grand plan to take a look at every player available to him before deciding upon a starting five.
“We’re going to mix and match a little bit and Lucas and Tony were both two young guys that we wanted to look at on the interior of our offensive line,” Allen said. “Both of them have done a nice job so far. It was kind of his day to be up with the ones.”
In reality, it’s likely that several of the spots already are sewn up — left offensive tackle Jared Veldheer, center Stefen Wisniewski and right guard Mike Brisiel. However, it’s conceivable that rookie Menelik Watson might push veteran Khalif Barnes for the starting spot at right offensive tackle.
At one point, Nix got scolded for leaving before the snap. Hey, better now than in the regular-season opener, right?

– Nick Roach said he doesn’t view this season as him getting his first shot to prove what he can do. Others might see it that way, but Roach already feels confident in his ability to be a full-time starter despite starting more than nine games only three of his six seasons with the Chicago Bears.
Allen likes what he has seen from Roach in a short time, as Roach goes about making people forget about his predecessor, Rolando McClain.
“He’s brought what we anticipated he would bring,” Allen said. “He’s a veteran guy that, he’s never really had the opportunity to say, this is his time to run the show. He’s getting that opportunity here.
“He’s done an outstanding job so far. He’s very intelligent, does a great job of running the huddle for us and getting us into the right checks and the right defenses and it’s still early in the offseason but I’ve been pleased with what he’s done so far.”

– Quarterback play was a mixed bag today, with just as much bad as good from Flynn, Tyler Wilson and Terrelle Pryor.
Flynn said some of that can be chalked up to the coaches throwing a bunch of new stuff at him and his quarterback mates, as well as working on red-zone plays for the first time.
Still, Flynn said, there’s only so much time for learning. Before long, the quarterbacks have to be up to speed and ready to execute better.
Case in point, Wilson looked pretty sharp in a lot of early drills. Then, in the red-zone work, he had passes intercepted on back-to-back plays.
Even so, Allen said, it’s Flynn’s job to lose.
“Matt’s our starting quarterback as we go forward right now,” Allen said, “and until the competition dictates otherwise, that’s where we’re going.”
Flynn said he isn’t worried about how well Wilson and Pryor perform. He said he has enough to worry about competing himself.

– Allen made it clear that he isn’t one to heap too much praise on rookies, especially after only four practices. Yet, he doesn’t hesitate finding good things to say about running back Latavius Murray.
“Probably the thing that’s been most impressive is that he’s picked up everything offensively from a schematic standpoint, assignment wise,” Allen said. “He’s done a great job. He’s done a nice job in pass protection. That’s one of the things you see with young backs that they struggle with at times.”
Murray seems to excel in just about every facet. At one point today, he was returning kicks. Don’t make too much of that, though. Several players returned kicks today, and it’s a stretch to envision that role going to anyone other than Jacoby Ford or Cribbs.
Still, it speaks to Murray’s versatility that he can return kicks if needed and that he is willing to do whatever it takes to make the 53-man roster.

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  • dr_robert

    Marks Hair Says:
    May 29th, 2013 at 12:55 pm
    its not my thing. but you draw it on to yourself. normally only the shít talkers and trolls get there name stolen.. you obviously got someone’s attention
    *******
    Obviously.

    Question is why would anyone care to do it?

    Oh who cares. I’m bored now.

  • The Original Beeeeech Diggity Dawg

    Realtruraider Says:
    May 29th, 2013 at 12:57 pm
    And The Dawg Is Out…ruff ruff ruff..ruff

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  • dr_robert

    Willy91137 Says:
    May 29th, 2013 at 1:03 pm
    The good Dr. Roberts has posted 17 times in the last 30 min.

    and you know he said nothing

    not talking about football just blabbing away

    when the troll
    ******
    When the troll.

  • Priesttj12

    If the Raiders were smart which is a stretch, I would play Murray and Reece a lot and save DMC for late in the year and use him for specific things like certain opponents and certain times in games. Murray is 230 and just as fast when he gets going he is a poor mans Eric Dickerson and will strike you.

    However Murray is also injuriy prone which is where Reece comes in. Reece is the most versatile of them and is a matchup nightmare. Hue Jackson knew how to use him so the defense could gage him and that is why he had soo many big plays.

    If they can work Ausberry into the starting lineup this offense could surprise. Flynn is a dink and dunk QB which is fine when you consider the talent around him. On the other hand if Pryor can get comfortable by the 3rd preseason game and can win the job this becomes an exciting dynamic offense that would be traveling nightmare. It would present such an array of big play capabilities. We could win some games against teams who are clearly better than us. Pryor IMO could buy this team 2-3 wins just on his skillset. The Raiders lack the insight and creativity to capitolize on it though. Flynn excites NO ONE, Wilson is just tooo green at present our only chance of surprising a few teams is if Pryor WINS that job.

  • dr_robert

    It’s crazy town in here. Time for me to fly. Enjoy the asylum boys.

  • R8ER MIKE

    Willy.. i love ya brother, but ya gotta do some spell checking once in a while. think you have some good points. but damn they hard to figure out sometimes.

  • willy91137

    yes when the troll when will the troll shot up

  • The Original Beeeeech Diggity Dawg

    RaidingTexas Says:
    May 29th, 2013 at 12:59 pm
    Sir RaiderDuck, OMS Says:
    May 29th, 2013 at 12:51 pm
    Somehow, I knew Beeech couldn’t be kept down. Wizzle.

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    Whut up Brah, time to take this jam 2 THA NEXT LEVEL

    Oh yeah and last week I got a herpe on my ding dong from this wasted stripper. Been soaking it in frozen Daiquiri all morning, should be good as new by supper

  • DutchRaider77

    @Priesttj12

    Could you see a lot of two back sets?

    I want to see McFadden used like Hue used Reece…motion him out as an receiver. Let Reece run the ball also…

  • ohioraider

    willy91137 Says:
    May 29th, 2013 at 1:06 pm

    yes when the troll when will the troll shot up
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    The troll is chirped ain’t he Willy?

  • willy91137

    Thank you reader Mike but I make more sense than Dr. Roberts

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Priesttj12 Says:
    May 29th, 2013 at 1:04 pm

    If the Raiders were smart which is a stretch, I would play Murray and Reece a lot and save DMC for late in the year and use him for specific things like certain opponents and certain times in games. Murray is 230 and just as fast when he gets going he is a poor mans Eric Dickerson and will strike you.

    However Murray is also injuriy prone which is where Reece comes in. Reece is the most versatile of them and is a matchup nightmare. Hue Jackson knew how to use him so the defense could gage him and that is why he had soo many big plays.

    If they can work Ausberry into the starting lineup this offense could surprise. Flynn is a dink and dunk QB which is fine when you consider the talent around him. On the other hand if Pryor can get comfortable by the 3rd preseason game and can win the job this becomes an exciting dynamic offense that would be traveling nightmare. It would present such an array of big play capabilities. We could win some games against teams who are clearly better than us. Pryor IMO could buy this team 2-3 wins just on his skillset. The Raiders lack the insight and creativity to capitolize on it though. Flynn excites NO ONE, Wilson is just tooo green at present our only chance of surprising a few teams is if Pryor WINS that job.
    ===============

    agreed

    I think almost all of our pass catchers and rbs are made to run like the wind. it makes no sense to me to have a qb that cant threaten the defense deep with this team.

    I think the only place you and i differ on this is i would use the pistol and let every play start with the option action/ look.

    get the defense to hesitate and bite then let pryor and the our speed burners punish the defense for guessing wrong

    this would also create huge holes for dmac and committee to run

    the threat of pryor keeping will be enough own the afc west

  • willy91137

    priest I agree with you- I said a long time ago we said use the pistol

    with McFadden I think they’re afraid to do it

  • Priesttj12

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    May 29th, 2013 at 12:55 pm
    @ priestt

    I saw nfl top 10 most elusive players the other night and Randall Cunningham was on the list!!

    made me think is pryor the next randall?

    Cunningham was by far the best running qb of his day and also came into the nfl with so called accuracy issues. In fact he never completed more than 62% of his pass in college. He was wasted in philly but once he hooked up with denny green showed he could be a very very good passer.

    It seems pryor is already a more polished passer than randall was at the same stage of their careers.

    Do you think the offense will look very different with when pryor is on the field?

    do you think play action and deep passing will be a staple with pryor, and would that give him the advantage in the qb race?
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    Just saw your post Mistic1, I don’t think there is a question about it. Pryor needs to work extremely hard over the next 2 months and sieze taht position to give us any chance of being decent. I have been telling people he is every bit the passer those two are and he gives us the threat of taking it the distance every play. His problem as I see it is he is Pressing too much and he’s not playing relaxed. That is just lack of reps and over trying to show he belongs. If he would just trust his game and relax he would win that job by noon tomorrow. I know what he’s doing he’s trying to guide the ball again and he cannot do that. Just let it rip like I know he can and he will be easily more effective. It’s like when they played Ore. and Ark in the BCS bowl games. He knew he had to let it go and the result were tremendous. He wasn’t trying to hard or overthinking. he just played the game with his talent and let that be the difference.

    It will take him a few starts to understand that he is good enough and just needs to play the game. I gaurantee YOU if he will just do that he will run away with that job BUT he needs to relax and just play. I know he’s learning the 3rd offense in his 3 years in the league which is somewhat of an impediment but at some point he needs to just play he can’t catch the ball for these guys he can only do HIS job they have to adjust to him, not the other way around.

  • Marks hair

    1010.lol classic

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist

    RaiderRockstar Says:

    looks so weird, seeing Nnamdi in a 49er jersey..

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/05/29/nnamdi-asomugha-adjustment-to-niners-hasnt-been-that-hard/

    ick!
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    Not many are more of the face of the 49ers than Jerry Rice. And he looked better in Silver and Black!

  • willy91137

    Olson said that he would have some packages for prior

    I doubt if we’ll see any them in preseason and

    probably something for the red zone

  • JLofty

    Mark’s Hair said….
    “either way its a bunch of garbage I normally just scroll past.. you thin out the real sports talk. you’re a troll”

    -Cosign.

  • SnBG

    The Pryor Brigade is here and present. Ready for all enemies of Pryor. Lets Rock n Roll.

    1014,,,like that post, came out with all guns blazing shooting lots of logic and good Ol fashion common sence. General Ebert gives it 10 thumbs up!

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  • http://www.RAIDERS.com Back-n-Black

    C’mon guys… Hayden’s surgery is related to the old injury simply because he developed scar tissue around the incision.

    Scar tissue is not a recurrence of the original injury, nor does it mean Hayden is prone to injury.

    Anyone who has had major surgery understands scar tissue. They go in, scrape it out, and you heal.

    Hayden will be fine.

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