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Notes, quotes and observations from today’s OTA — updated

Coach Dennis Allen walked away from Monday’s practice much more pleased than he was at this point a week ago.
Allen bemoaned the lack of crispness last week and said he expected his players to bounce back the rest of the week and moving forward.
“The guys responded well,” Allen said. “The last two days of practice (last week) were a lot better, and that’s what you look for. They’re not going to have their A game out there every day out there. The key to me is, how do they respond when they get challenged? They did a nice job responding. They responded well today.”
Allen gets his players on the field Tuesday and Wednesday and then not again until the mandatory three-day mini camp next week.
He admitted that there’s still plenty of work to be done and that too many makeable plays aren’t being made. No big deal, though, that’s why teams practice in May and June.
“This part of what OTAs is for is to be able to go through these things, be able to see it live, and then we get a chance to go back into the meetings and make whatever corrections that we need to make,” Allen said. “You saw what practice looked like. We had some opportunities to make some big plays. Those are the plays that we got to make sure that we make come Sunday.”

– Tony Bergstrom was back working at left guard with the first-team offense Monday, just as he was the first week of OTAs.
Last week, Lucas Nix replaced Bergstrom. Allen has said that he intends to mix and match along the offensive line into training camp before he settles upon his starting five.
Bergstrom looks fine at left guard, though we won’t be able to tell for sure until there’s contact in practice and the exhibition games.

– Allen sounded more pleased by the play of his quarterbacks today than what we witnessed on the field today.
Too often, presumptive starter Matt Flynn misfired on passes that he shouldn’t have much difficulty putting on the mark. He also had a pass batted down at the line of scrimmage.
Flynn didn’t have any of his passes intercepted, but he missed high on a few passes, threw one way too low and had a few others miss wide of the mark.
Rookie Tyler Wilson didn’t have one of his better practices, either, though he didn’t do anything that made you cringe.
As for Pryor, he didn’t get as many reps. For the most part, he made respectable throws, save one that sailed over Conner Vernon’s head and into no man’s land.
Flynn doesn’t seem too concerned.
“We’re doing some good things out there,” Flynn said. “We’re getting more comfortable with each other and comfortable with being out on the field and playing. So I think as an offense we’re making a lot of strides. We still have a lot of things to clean up and that’s just going to come with time and repetitions. But so far I feel good about where we’re at and where we’re going.”

– Wide receivers Jacoby Ford (hamstring), Josh Cribbs (knee) and Isaiah Williams (undisclosed), tight end Nick Kasa (hamstring), fullback Jon Hoese (calf), defensive tackle Christo Bilukidi (ankle), cornerbacks D.J. Hayden (abdomen) and Coye Francies (ill) and linebacker Miles Burris (knee) did not practice today.
Cornerback Tracy Porter returned to practice after missing some time last week with a sore calf. Beyond that, everybody else was healthy enough to practice.

– For some reason, some people got the impression that Taiwan Jones practiced some at running back last week. To be certain, Jones is not working out at his old position. He’s working strictly as a cornerback as he attempts to make the conversion in his third season.

– Allen said Hayden is on track to rejoin his teammates at practice at the start of training camp. Hayden underwent surgery late last month to remove some scar tissue in his abdominal region.
“Everything went fine,” Allen said. “Everything was kind of as we had hoped and anticipated. Hey, listen, it’s a little bit of uncharted waters, but we still feel comfortable that he’ll be back and ready to go in camp. We still have seven weeks before we start training camp. It’s 51 days from now until we start training camp. We feel confident he’ll be back and be ready to go.”
Hayden was on the practice field today, sporting his No. 25, but he just watched from the sideline. The Raiders selected him with the 12th pick of the 2013 NFL draft.

– Pat Sims and Vance Walker appear to be the replacements for jettisoned defensive tackles Richard Seymour and Tommy Kelly.
Allen said Sims and Walker were targeted by the Raiders, in large part, because of their penchant for holding up well against the run, long a problem area for the Raiders.
“When you really look at it, that’s probably what they’re best suited to do right now,” Allen said. “They play the run square, they come off and attack blocks like they’re supposed to. They’ve been gap-sound and fundamental in that regard.”
Sims did a nice job of pushing the pocket today and getting a hand up at the proper time whenever the quarterback attempted a pass.

– Marquette King opened eyes at training camp last year with his ability to punt the ball a long way, oftentimes in excess of 70 yards.
Problem is, King displayed a maddening penchant for following up a few impressive punts with a clunker or two. Naturally, teams are keen on punters that display more consistency.
“That’s the big thing with Marquette, and that’s what we’re going to be evaluating as we go through this process all the way through the preseason games,” Allen said. “It’s consistency. It’s not really unlike any other position, but the guys that can be the most consistent in the NFL, those end up being the best players. That’s one of the things that he’s got to continue to work on. He’s improved that. He’s not where he needs to be yet, but he has improved in that area.”
King is battling for the right to succeed long-time Raiders punter Shane Lechler, who bolted for the Houston Texans via free agency after 13 years with the Raiders. Veteran Chris Kluwe is King’s competition right now.
At one point today, King launched a 70+-yard punt, then followed that with a rather short punt that appeared to be mishit. Just another example of how it was so easy to take for granted Lechler all these years and how consistency is easy to say but hard to achieve.

– King isn’t the only young player with some work to do before he can feel secure about a spot on the Raiders 53-man roster or meaningful playing time.
Allen said third-year quarterback Terrelle Pryor is making progress, “but he’s not there yet.”
“There’s been no lack of effort on his part,” Allen said. “Still, when you look at it, the quarterback position, he’s still young in the position and there’s still a lot of improvement he needs to make. He’s got a great athletic skillset, but still some of the finer point about playing quarterback are still what he needs to continue to get better at.”

– It’s not hard to find ringing indictments of former Raiders middle linebacker Rolando McClain. On Monday, Allen doled out another one without even mentioning McClain.
It came when Allen was asked about the leadership provided by Nick Roach, one of Oakland’s free-agent signings, who is tasked with replacing McClain in the middle of Oakland’s defense.
“Nick’s highly intelligent and he’s athletic,” Allen said. “He’s done a nice job of kind of being the quarterback of our defense. He’s kind of taken on that role and really has a passion about leading that team. With his athleticism, he’s not maybe your proto-typical Mike linebacker. He’s got some things that he can do from a coverage standpoint that lends some flexibility to us.”
In other words, Roach is most things McClain wasn’t during his three failed seasons with the Raiders. Few questioned McClain’s intelligence and athleticism. It’s his work ethic, lack of leadership and lackluster play that many called into question.
The Raiders released McClain earlier this offseason. He later caught on with the Baltimore Ravens, only to retire a short time later so that he can get his life in order.

– The departure of Brandon Myers to the New York Giants in free agency left a huge void for the Raiders to fill at tight end.
Myers led the Raiders in receptions last season, and he played almost every down, while youngsters David Ausberry and Richard Gordon bided their time on the sideline.
Ausberry and Gordon are back for another crack at earning more playing time. The Raiders drafted Nick Kasa and Mychal Rivera as a means of creating more competition.
So, where do things stand right now?
“It’s pretty wide open,” Allen said. “All those guys are doing a nice job. Obviously, it’s hurt not having Kasa out there because he’s a guy we really anticipated being able to step-in and potentially fill a role for us. So, hopefully, we’ll get him out there soon. The big thing, again, with those guys, just like it is with everyone else, it’s going to be the consistency issue because they are relatively young at the position.”

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  • new improved dr robert now cherry flavored

    RediaR Says:
    June 6th, 2013 at 2:00 pm
    What I want to know is how good Pryor’s hands are.
    ******
    Can’t possibly be worse than his passing.

    Unless he actually has paddles for hands.

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist

    Miss Tick, Marino, really? Did you write that scouting report? Oh, wait. ’82, ’83? You were born right around then, weren’t you?

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist

    Zymurge Says:
    And until he demonstrates the ability to assess a defense pre-snap and make audibles followed by a progression of reads to find secondary and tertiary targets, then I’ll stick to my thinking that he just isn’t quick enough mentally for the demanding NFL QB position.
    ========================================================

    You just said, for the record, that black people aren’t smart enough to play QB in the NFL.
    You have an obvious agenda, and bias.
    Might as well put the sheet on now, ‘cuz you’re not fooling anybody here.

    Seriously, he’s still young and without real playing time at the NFL level. I wouldn’t bail yet; next preseason, show me.

  • Horse Fly

    new improved dr robert now cherry flavored Says:

    Can’t possibly be worse than his passing.

    Unless he actually has paddles for hands.
    ———-

    Pryor wears Silver and Black. Not you.

  • rediaR

    Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
    June 6th, 2013 at 2:14 pm
    Zymurge Says:
    And until he demonstrates the ability to assess a defense pre-snap and make audibles followed by a progression of reads to find secondary and tertiary targets, then I’ll stick to my thinking that he just isn’t quick enough mentally for the demanding NFL QB position.
    ========================================================

    You just said, for the record, that black people aren’t smart enough to play QB in the NFL.
    You have an obvious agenda, and bias.
    Might as well put the sheet on now, ‘cuz you’re not fooling anybody here.

    Seriously, he’s still young and without real playing time at the NFL level. I wouldn’t bail yet; next preseason, show me.
    —————————–
    Pryor is every black person?

  • Horse Fly

    rediaR Says:
    June 6th, 2013 at 2:00 pm
    What I want to know is how good Pryor’s hands are.
    —————

    His hands are fine. But compare them size wise to Flynn or Wilsons and it looks like defenders would have trouble slapping the ball out. Flynn and Wilsons are more Gannonesque.

  • Raiderfusion

    Why can;’t Cork and Jerry give us more on the OTA’s or even player profiles. This Barros guy for the SacBee has fresh stuff every day, and he’s really respected around the NFL. All we get is how we fired some PR guy, who really gives a crap. All of us fans sign on here to get info about our team. Every week we had atleast 3 days of OTA’s and we get 1 report out of them, pretty sad.

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    Zymurge Says:
    June 6th, 2013 at 2:02 pm

    Raiderfusion Says:
    June 6th, 2013 at 1:49 pm
    Why is everybody getting they’re bowels in an uproar over TP? He”s not going to be the Man on this team. he team is looking to guys who can throw the ball in tight spaces, not float the ball. Unless he has corrected his mechanics he’ll never be able to deliver the ball properly. I’m hoping he has corrected them as his feet could really give opposing defense all sorts of headaches. Does anyone know why theses knuckleheads can’t keep us more informed, so we have more to talk about?

    ====

    His mechanics aren’t the problem. They look fine when he’s standing there firing the ball in drills.

    Decision making is his achilles heel. Not being able to process the situations fast enough to anticipate where to put the ball prevent him from setting up and following through correctly. Instead, he starts scrambling when the first read isn’t there and at that points makes it even harder to watch the play develop and read.

    Until he learns that schoolyard football don’t fly in the NFL, he won’t make better throws. Doing that means knowing before everyone else where he’s going to throw and setting up his body for the proper mechanics. And until he demonstrates the ability to assess a defense pre-snap and make audibles followed by a progression of reads to find secondary and tertiary targets, then I’ll stick to my thinking that he just isn’t quick enough mentally for the demanding NFL QB position.
    ==============================================

    I have been saying this for years in here: Pryor like Jamarcus Russell got by on pure athleticism. That doesn’t happen at this level. And unfortunately, teams do not have the luxury of letting someone sit around and “develop.” Players now like Luck, or RGIII, or Matt Ryan come in ready to play. You cannot come in here and try to “learn the most important position” at this level. Cannot be done. Roster doTeams can’t do it, coaches don’t have time to do it, team mates don’t have the patience for it, can’t be done. To Pryors credit he did what 12-20 years old QB’s do and go to QB camp and try to improve their fundamentals and game. However as a 25 year old with three years in the league, that is a little too late.

  • J Hill

    I’m not going to make another comment on Pryor or Wilson until they actually take the field.

    I’m going to take Priest’s advice and just watch.

  • inonewordraider

    there are quite a few on this blog that don’t think much of pryor.

    does any of this attitude towards pryor stem from wanting to prove mistic wrong?

  • Horse Fly

    TROLL ALERT:

    Suspicions arise as evidence could suggest raiderfusion is another dr r sockpuppet. Readers beware.

  • new improved dr robert now cherry flavored

    Horse Fly Says:
    June 6th, 2013 at 2:15 pm
    new improved dr robert now cherry flavored Says:

    Can’t possibly be worse than his passing.

    Unless he actually has paddles for hands.
    ———-

    Pryor wears Silver and Black. Not you.
    ********
    Yes I do. My whole life u pud whacker.

    I can be honest about any player. It’s evaluation.

    I’m not a kid nor do I have an agenda.

    Horse fly is a good name since handles like urs appear frequently to buzz about me.

    Too bad ur such a coward that u can’t be ur original handle.

    Not very masculine.

  • lefty12

    J-some of us have felt that way for a long time.

  • ron69

    This year the secondary got rebuilt, i expect next year the wr’s corps, probably drafting Marquis Lee in the first and picking someone like Víctor Cruz or Hakeem Nicks in FA.

    I don’t expect much for Moore and Streater and Ford isn’t tuff enuff to play in this league.

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    First fallacy: Flynn IS a veteran. He’s been in the league 5 years. Same place where Rodgers was before he became a starter. Not saying that he will ever be close to Rodgers, but he’s no rookie either. He’s been around the league and learned the ins and outs of being a pro. He can lead the offense and mentor the younger QBs from that perspective, even if he isn’t both a veteran and experienced starter.
    —————————
    First Fallacy airight

  • Horse Fly

    inonewordraider Says:
    June 6th, 2013 at 2:19 pm
    there are quite a few on this blog that don’t think much of pryor.

    does any of this attitude towards pryor stem from wanting to prove mistic wrong?
    ——–

    I’d have to say that your assessment of that may hold water. Another way to look at it is some may just want to be right, no matter the cost. Dr Rs anti-Pryor has actually turned me into an avid Pryor supporter.

  • new improved dr robert now cherry flavored

    Horse Fly Says:
    June 6th, 2013 at 2:19 pm
    TROLL ALERT:

    Suspicions arise as evidence could suggest raiderfusion is another dr r sockpuppet. Readers beware.
    *****
    Lol. The sockpuppet accusing others of having sockpuppets.

    I don’t have any. But u sure do “horse fly”.

    I love the trolls who call others trolls.

    U should look up “self loathing”.

  • Horse Fly

    KoolKell Says:
    June 6th, 2013 at 2:21 pm
    First fallacy: Flynn IS a veteran. He’s been in the league 5 years. Same place where Rodgers was before he became a starter. Not saying that he will ever be close to Rodgers, but he’s no rookie either. He’s been around the league and learned the ins and outs of being a pro. He can lead the offense and mentor the younger QBs from that perspective, even if he isn’t both a veteran and experienced starter.
    —————————
    First Fallacy airight
    ———-

    Flynn is a bench veteran.

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    Inonewordraider Says:
    June 6th, 2013 at 2:19 pm

    there are quite a few on this blog that don’t think much of pryor.

    does any of this attitude towards pryor stem from wanting to prove mistic wrong?
    ———————————
    99.9%

  • Horse Fly

    new improved dr robert now cherry flavored Says:
    June 6th, 2013 at 2:22 pm
    Horse Fly Says:
    June 6th, 2013 at 2:19 pm
    TROLL ALERT:

    Suspicions arise as evidence could suggest raiderfusion is another dr r sockpuppet. Readers beware.
    *****
    Lol. The sockpuppet accusing others of having sockpuppets.

    I don’t have any. But u sure do “horse fly”.

    I love the trolls who call others trolls.

    U should look up “self loathing”.
    —-

    Link?

  • new improved dr robert now cherry flavored

    Inonewordraider Says:
    June 6th, 2013 at 2:19 pm
    there are quite a few on this blog that don’t think much of pryor.

    does any of this attitude towards pryor stem from wanting to prove mistic wrong?
    ******
    Probably

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    according to palmer the raiders told him the were ‘going in a new direction”

    plamer wanted no part of it and balked at the pay cut and bailed

    end of story
    =======================================================

    Link? I have it by the way.
    And you know you’re misrepresenting it.
    Do you put on special ‘Supavillain’ goggles in the morning?
    No one else see’s the world or football quite like you.
    And no, those peanuts weren’t complimentary.

  • new improved dr robert now cherry flavored

    Inonewordraider Says:
    June 6th, 2013 at 2:19 pm
    there are quite a few on this blog that don’t think much of pryor.

    does any of this attitude towards pryor stem from wanting to prove mistic wrong?
    ********
    That’s why his divisive bigotry is so evil, all bigotry is.

    He WANTS to create sides of us vs. them.

    It’s his life’s goal.

  • RaiderDebo

    Great article from Bucky Brooks on NFL.com. Been trying to explain this to the clowns on this board for years, but you’re a little slow on the uptake. Anyway, the JR Comeback Train is full and leaving the station, so the dorks who missed it can suck it and like it. Maybe Mistic, Priest, RRS and me will drop by the circus and let you entertain us sometime. Lol!

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000209830/article/jamarcus-russell-will-get-second-chance-on-nfl-roster-in-2013

  • new improved dr robert now cherry flavored

    Horse Fly Says:
    June 6th, 2013 at 2:23 pm
    new improved dr robert now cherry flavored Says:
    June 6th, 2013 at 2:22 pm
    Horse Fly Says:
    June 6th, 2013 at 2:19 pm
    TROLL ALERT:

    Suspicions arise as evidence could suggest raiderfusion is another dr r sockpuppet. Readers beware.
    *****
    Lol. The sockpuppet accusing others of having sockpuppets.

    I don’t have any. But u sure do “horse fly”.

    I love the trolls who call others trolls.

    U should look up “self loathing”.
    —-

    Link?

    *************

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-hatred

  • Sockpuppet Army

    Horse Fly Says:
    June 6th, 2013 at 2:23 pm

    new improved dr robert now cherry flavored Says:
    June 6th, 2013 at 2:22 pm
    Horse Fly Says:
    June 6th, 2013 at 2:19 pm
    TROLL ALERT:

    Suspicions arise as evidence could suggest raiderfusion is another dr r sockpuppet. Readers beware.
    *****
    Lol. The sockpuppet accusing others of having sockpuppets.

    I don’t have any. But u sure do “horse fly”.

    I love the trolls who call others trolls.

    U should look up “self loathing”.
    —-

    Link?
    @@@@@@@@@

    Say what?

  • rediaR

    Jamarcus can’t hit a barn 10 yards in front of him, but he’ll throw the ball through the neighbor’s barn trying.

  • RaiderRockstar

    nite gents.

    Go Heat!!

  • Horse Fly

    Smart phones are great. Well, it’s time to get off the crapper now and back on the road. You all play nice now.

    Free the Dawg!

  • RaiderDebo/Eternal Optimist

    RaiderDebo Says:
    June 6th, 2013 at 2:28 pm

    Great article from Bucky Brooks on NFL.com. Been trying to explain this to the clowns on this board for years, but you’re a little slow on the uptake. Anyway, the JR Comeback Train is full and leaving the station, so the dorks who missed it can suck it and like it. Maybe Mistic, Priest, RRS and me will drop by the circus and let you entertain us sometime. Lol!
    =======================================================

    Debo. How does this handle look? You’re more than welcome to it.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000209830/article/jamarcus-russell-will-get-second-chance-on-nfl-roster-in-2013

  • new improved dr robert now cherry flavored

    Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
    June 6th, 2013 at 2:14 pm
    Zymurge Says:
    And until he demonstrates the ability to assess a defense pre-snap and make audibles followed by a progression of reads to find secondary and tertiary targets, then I’ll stick to my thinking that he just isn’t quick enough mentally for the demanding NFL QB position.
    ========================================================

    You just said, for the record, that black people aren’t smart enough to play QB in the NFL.
    You have an obvious agenda, and bias.
    Might as well put the sheet on now, ‘cuz you’re not fooling anybody here.

    Seriously, he’s still young and without real playing time at the NFL level. I wouldn’t bail yet; next preseason, show me.
    ********
    He said Pryor.

    I’m sure some guys see Pryor as dumb cuz of bigotry.

    I don’t. Seems like a bright kid.

    But reading nfl defenses is very difficult and it doesn’t seem to be strength if his at this point.

    It could get better with experience.

    My biggest problem with him is his poor passing.

  • RaiderRockstar
  • rediaR

    Horse Fly Says:
    June 6th, 2013 at 2:32 pm
    Free the Dawg!
    ———————-
    All previous credibility has been revoked.

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    Man what could have been

    HUE JAX + KAPERNICK + DMAC + FORD..DHB ..MOORE + REECE

    the defense would have been better if he got to pick his DC and his guys after the next year.. it would be no worse then its been under DA

    what could have been?? RAIDERS BLEW IT…. even blew it getting rid of HUE JAX so quick.. he was perfect for this team.

    OH WELL.. Kapernick and hue jax could have turned this franchise around quicker then Mckenzie (and im a fan of his ) and DA .. Bet on that.

    Mark blew it too getting rid of HUE.. u have seen Marks ego.. got rid of the PR guy..and got rid of HUE JAX because he lit into his guys after week 17

    some of the guys complained to Marky mark on that one via tafaur

  • J Hill

    I’m on board Lefty.

    No favorites.

    Best man wins.

  • new improved dr robert now cherry flavored

    Horse Fly Says:
    June 6th, 2013 at 2:32 pm
    Smart phones are great. Well, it’s time to get off the crapper now and back on the road. You all play nice now.

    Free the Dawg!
    ********
    See u later Danny boy.

    U chose the right handle. Smart as a fly and as annoying too.

    But as easy to deal with. Splat!

    U sure love u some beeech. So upset with me for allegedly getting him banned that u spend all ur time on me (u wish).

    Just so upset about my “racism” and “arrogance”. It just really gets u.

    U do like to dress up in other clothes don’t u Danny?

  • new improved dr robert now cherry flavored

    J Hill Says:
    June 6th, 2013 at 2:35 pm
    I’m on board Lefty.

    No favorites.

    Best man wins.
    *******
    I’m down

  • inonewordraider

    J Hill Says:
    June 6th, 2013 at 2:35 pm
    I’m on board Lefty.

    No favorites.

    Best man wins.
    _________
    +1

    gotta question the “fanship” of anyone that wants Flynn Wilson or Pryor to fail

  • RaiderRockstar

    http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/06/06/lebron-calls-duncan-most-consistent-most-dominant-player-of-last-15-years/

    this is what you do. LeBron is all class

    respect him in the media, beat his ass on the court!

  • new improved dr robert now cherry flavored

    RediaR Says:
    June 6th, 2013 at 2:34 pm
    Horse Fly Says:
    June 6th, 2013 at 2:32 pm
    Free the Dawg!
    ———————-
    All previous credibility has been revoked.
    ********
    Lol.

  • inonewordraider

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 6th, 2013 at 2:40 pm
    http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/06/06/lebron-calls-duncan-most-consistent-most-dominant-player-of-last-15-years/

    this is what you do. LeBron is all class

    respect him in the media, beat his ass on the court!

    _____________
    best player on the planet yes, but all class?

    come on RRS, you’re goggles are foggy

  • Macho Man Randy Savage

    Man, I read Huge Action on Peter Queen’s column. I keep asking myself why someone would keep exposing his former boss.

    Letter to Hue: You are a football coach, football is a branding business, you hurt the brand you hurt the bottom line, keep your mouth shut. If its true you’re good you’ll get hired again.

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist

    rediaR Says:
    Jamarcus can’t hit a barn 10 yards in front of him, but he’ll throw the ball through the neighbor’s barn trying.
    ====================================================

    From inside!

  • new improved dr robert now cherry flavored

    I wish I had been the one to get beeech banned.

    He says himself he bann banned several times.

    New handles every few months.

    When he reappears, maybe I can get him banned again so I will have that feather in my cap.

    “This summer, at a cinema near u, it’s Dr. Robert in ‘Cleaning Up’!

    Dr. Robert: “It’s time to take out the trash!”

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    inonewordraider Says:
    June 6th, 2013 at 2:19 pm

    there are quite a few on this blog that don’t think much of pryor.

    does any of this attitude towards pryor stem from wanting to prove mistic wrong?
    =============================================

    I am with Doc Rob on this. Pure evaluation. I WANT Pryor to be the next Joe “Willie” Namath. But there is a hell of lot more to being a stellar NFL Q than just wanting to be.

  • DutchRaider77

    3038.inonewordraider Says:
    June 6th, 2013 at 2:39 pm
    J Hill Says:
    June 6th, 2013 at 2:35 pm
    I’m on board Lefty.

    No favorites.

    Best man wins.
    _________
    +1

    gotta question the “fanship” of anyone that wants Flynn Wilson or Pryor to fail

    _______________________

    Exactly!
    Although, as a Raiders first guy. I would love all three QBs look good in preseason and that it is a tough decision and they go with Flynn. (validates Reggie’s trade).

    Pryor comes in in certain packages and at some point due to minor injury to Flynn, Pryor takes the reigns and looks great. Flynn is traded in the offseason for third round draft pick and next year Wilson and Pryor battle it out again.

  • Macho Man Randy Savage

    Man if Pryor can read a D, and can run like the wind, with his size, he would be the ideal zone TE.

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    June 6th, 2013 at 2:34 pm

    Man what could have been

    HUE JAX + KAPERNICK + DMAC + FORD..DHB ..MOORE + REECE

    the defense would have been better if he got to pick his DC and his guys after the next year.. it would be no worse then its been under DA

    what could have been?? RAIDERS BLEW IT…. even blew it getting rid of HUE JAX so quick.. he was perfect for this team.

    OH WELL.. Kapernick and hue jax could have turned this franchise around quicker then Mckenzie (and im a fan of his ) and DA .. Bet on that.

    Mark blew it too getting rid of HUE.. u have seen Marks ego.. got rid of the PR guy..and got rid of HUE JAX because he lit into his guys after week 17

    some of the guys complained to Marky mark on that one via tafaur
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    McKenzie got rid of Jackson, not Mark Davis. Kind of a funny story too. And certainly the right decision.

  • new improved dr robert now cherry flavored

    The TRUTH is that all four qbs have questions around them.

    None are guarantees to even be adequate starters in the nfl, let alone stars.

    But based in a 6td performance, and what I saw of him, Flynn has a shot.

    Wilson has what I would call legit qb skills and has been considered a top PRO prospect for some time.

    McGloin is a guy who has always succeeded despite being overlooked and could be a Flynn type developer.

    Pryor simply lacks passing skills. Scouts have always said it.

  • Macho Man Randy Savage

    Man, getting rid of the PR story guy has become like a darned mosquito in the middle of the night, its a small insignificant thing that doesnt go away and is annoying as hell. Good job getting rid of him after 1 year, can you imagine if this parasite would have been fired after 15 years?