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Notes, quotes and observations from mini camp Day 2

It shouldn’t come as a great surprise that the Raiders quarterbacks performed better today, given there wasn’t much room to go but up. Even so, the quarterbacks looked as sharp, as a group, as they have all offseason.
It didn’t begin that way, to be fair. The first several throws left a lot to be desired and most of those, even ones that found the mark, lacked zip and a tight spiral.
Before long, something clicked and Matt Flynn seemed to find a comfortable rhythm, Terrelle Pryor dropped in a beauty to Andre Holmes 50 yards downfield and Tyler Wilson threaded a pass into tight coverage well downfield.
“The execution was better today,” coach Dennis Allen said. “Our guys, the one thing about them is, every time we challenge them, they come back and respond. So I was pleased with the way they practiced today.”
Allen was talking about his players, in general, but he could have said the same thing about a quarterback corps that looked as if they were practicing for the first time when they floundered Tuesday.

– Wide receivers Josh Cribbs and Isaiah Williams, fullback Jon Hoese, running back Latavius Murray, tight end Nick Kasa, linebacker Miles Burris, defensive tackles Johnny Jones and Stacy McGee and cornerbacks Coye Francies, D.J. Hayden and Taiwan Jones missed all or part of practice for the second straight day.
Murray made an appearance on the sideline. Afterward, Allen said Murray’s foot injury isn’t something that’s going to linger into training camp.
Cornerback Phillip Adams suffered a hamstring injury midway through practice and was escorted to the locker room. Fellow cornerback Michael Jenkins hurt his knee and didn’t finish practice, either.

– New Orleans Saints coach Sean Payton said last week that he and Allen discussed the possibility of conducting joint practices before their exhibition game. Allen said Wednesday that it’s not apt to happen this time around.
“It’s something that we’ve talked about,” Allen said. “I don’t think that’s going to end up working out, but it is something that we kicked around, really both sides.”
Allen, of course, coached under Payton when both were with the Saints. In the past, the Raiders conducted joint practices with the Dallas Cowboys before exhibition games in Texas.

– If Allen is heaping praise upon a rookie, take note. Allen isn’t one to go overboard when talking about a young player.
On Wednesday, Allen raved about rookie linebacker Sio Moore way beyond what he typically does for a player that hasn’t established himself yet.
“I like Sio,” Allen said. “Sio’s a rookie, he makes some rookie mistakes. But he’s a big, powerful man. And he’s got a little bit of pass-rush ability to him. So, I like some of the flexibility that he gives us.”
But, wait, there’s more.
“What you look at is you look at football intelligence, and he’s got some football intelligence and some football savvy about him,” Allen said. “We got a big volume of stuff that we’re throwing at him and sometimes it can overload him. He’s a guy that continues to go out there and work every day. His work ethic and his understanding of the game of football is what’s going to allow him to be a good player for us.”
Moore is competing for a starting spot, along with Kaluka Maiava, Miles Burris and Kevin Burnett. Nick Roach is a lock as the middle linebacker.

– Safety Charles Woodson joined the Raiders late during offseason workouts. Even so, he wasted little time getting up to speed and acclimating himself to the Raiders defense.
“Wood’s been great,” Allen said. “He’s done everything that we’ve asked him to do. He’s really exactly what we felt we were going to be able to get in a player like that; a Hall of Fame-caliber player that’s made a lot of plays on the football over his career.
“We’re going to continue to ask him to do those things. As he’s gone throughout his career, he’s taken on more of a leadership role and he’s done a nice job in that regard for us.”
Woodson is expected to speak with the media Thursday. At that time, we’ll pass along Woodson’s thoughts on how things are going during his second stint with the Raiders.
Woodson is working with the Raiders first-team defense, alongside strong safety Tyvon Branch.

– Wilson fared somewhat better today, including one throw that he zipped 30 yards to a spot where Travionte Session could make a play in tight coverage.
Sure, he’s still prone to the occasional rookie mistake and consistency still is a work in progress, but Wilson carries himself in a way befitting a player with NFL experience.
“That’s one of the things about him,” Allen said. “He’s got some moxie to him. He’s got some savvyness to him. He still has a long way to go as far as learning the offense, learning the NFL game. But he’s a guy that hopefully we can develop and he can be better for us.”

– Allen admits that the Raiders checked into the possibility of signing a veteran wide receiver earlier this offseason.
Instead, they opted to see what they can get out of a corps that since has added Josh Cribbs, Brice Butler, Conner Vernon and Sam McGuffie.
“We looked to see what was available, really at all positions, but we got some young talent here,” Allen said. “Now we need somebody to step up and really separate themselves a little bit. But I like our receivers. I like the young talent that we have.”
That talent was on display today and Tuesday, with Butler, Vernon and McGuffie making impressive plays. All three have a legitimate shot to make the 53-man roster, behind locks Denarius Moore, Jacoby Ford, Rod Streater and Juron Criner.

– Very quietly, the Raiders are working more and more on different looks defensively. We’re not allowed to divulge much, but suffice that you’re going to see more three-man fronts and defensive linemen dropping into coverage.
A lack of dependable cornerbacks last season made it difficult for the Raiders to be as dynamic as defensive coordinator Jason Tarver and Allen envisioned.
As a result, the Raiders signed veterans Michael Jenkins and Tracy Porter and drafted D.J. Hayden in the first round. Their ability to hold up in coverage frees up other defenders to get after the quarterback.
“It’s a critical area of our football team,” Allen said. “The way the NFL is now, everything’s centered around the quarterback offensively, it’s centered around the quarterback defensively. What can you do to affect the quarterback, and that’s rush and coverage. We’ve got to be able to have both parts working together. Our coverage aspect is going to be able to help our rush this year.”
Several times the past two days, Porter and Jenkins flashed their ability to shadow receivers and get in position to intercept a pass, break it up or at least make it more difficult for the receiver.

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  • RAIDERMAN99

    Only an IDIOT believes anything CHRIS MORTENSON has to say about the RAIDS.

    Wasn’t enough for you that CORKRAN shot down Mortenson’s report about McGloin creating a buzz when he said it would help if Mort actually was at a practice ?

    How about this -

    The great AL DAVIS publically called CHRIS MORT a PROFESSIONAL LIAR.

    Mort didn’t sue.

    How do you like that ‘buzz’ ?

  • RaiderRockstar

    Josh Alper @ PFT reports Miami, Dallas & Oakland could all be possibilities for McGahee.

  • inonewordraider

    Arm strength and work ethic? If those two things don’t actually combine to make u better than the other guy, then no.

    Flynn is a better PASSER. The end.
    _______________________________
    levi says pryor was better yesterday. cork tweeted pryor is on fire today.

    so Flynn isn’t noticeably better. pryors dual threat ability has to make him the better option if this keeps up no?

    sure you’re not more interested in bein right than the raiders winning?

  • RaiderRockstar

    Steve Corkran‏@CorkOnTheNFL5m
    Juron Criner cradles on-side kick. That’s the way you do it.

    Steve Corkran‏@CorkOnTheNFL4m
    Criner has a knack for this Hands Team thing on on-side kicks

  • Marks hair

    Mortenson is the professional liar even after Davis is dead. its ridiculous.. only someone reaching really far to try to prove their lame point would believe anything Chris has to say.

    and by the way national buzz means more than one person in the nation agrees with the idea..

  • Gdog

    theghostronin79 Says:
    June 13th, 2013 at 12:19 pm

    Yeah Thec…….It’s encouraging. Especially the tweet about Pryor being on fire….Never heard such a claim before.

    >>>>

    One of our resident genius’s stated as FACT that Cork and JMac don’t know what they are seeing in practice when they all looked horrible.

    Wonder if that still holds true?

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    pryor’s confidence is up because he is building on the fact that he understands the offense, and he is comfortable.

    The more comfort he is able to build the more his talent will show through.

    i expect flynn and pryor to continue to improve, however flynn will eventually hit his ceiling and that is where the spaghetti separates form the macaroni , feel me

  • RaiderRockstar

    Steve Corkran‏@CorkOnTheNFL1m
    Back to passing drill. Flynn’s first two passes incomplete. Not sure of the intended targets. Balls way off the mark.

    Steve Corkran‏@CorkOnTheNFL28s
    Flynn pressured, throws ball out of bounds. Bring on Kluwe to punt.

    ***

    yikes!

  • the famous dr robert

    It doesn’t matter if its true.

    Try to understand logic.

    The report by mort exists. Get it?

    Say it’s all made up. But it exists.

    That’s attention being called nationally to him. Which means he’s gotten some notoriety deserved or not. Get it?

    That means if the raiders decide they like him, they would risk losing him to another team if they tried stashing him on the PS.

    Understand? IF THEY LIKE HIM.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Steve Corkran‏@CorkOnTheNFL37s
    Flynn throws way behind TE Mychal Rivera. Four straight unsightly throws.

    Steve Corkran‏@CorkOnTheNFL16s
    Flynn completes in route to Rod Streater. The streak ends at four.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Levi Damien‏@LeviDamien2m
    Three broken plays in a row for Flynn and first team offense in redzone drills. All passes fall incomplete in space.

    Levi Damien‏@LeviDamien1m
    Then Flynn throws behind Rivera. Four str8 incompletions in redzone for Flynn.

    Levi Damien‏@LeviDamien1m
    5th attempt is complete to Streater on quick slant. Don’t get five chances tho

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    if the trib staff say pryor is on fire, he must super nova hot!!!

    we already know they hate giving him any credit at all

  • RaiderRockstar

    Steve Corkran‏@CorkOnTheNFL1m
    Flynn connects with Criner on quick throw.

    Steve Corkran‏@CorkOnTheNFL21s
    Menelik Watson getting some time at right OT with first-team offense. Lucas Nix now at right guard.

  • theghostronin79

    Steve Corkran‏@CorkOnTheNFL30s
    Menelik Watson getting some time at right OT with first-team offense. Lucas Nix now at right guard.

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    Interesting

  • Thec

    Steve Corkran ‏@CorkOnTheNFL 1m
    Menelik Watson getting some time at right OT with first-team offense. Lucas Nix now at right guard.

  • the famous dr robert

    Marks Hair Says:
    June 13th, 2013 at 12:35 pm
    Mortenson is the professional liar even after Davis is dead. its ridiculous.. only someone reaching really far to try to prove their lame point would believe anything Chris has to say.

    and by the way national buzz means more than one person in the nation agrees with the idea..
    *******
    Does ur brain not function correctly?

    I said it doesn’t matter if I believe it or u believe it.

    It exists. He has had national attention.

    I didn’t use the report to try to prove my point about anything other than to say other teams are aware of him.

    Why do some of u have such a hard time with what’s actually said?

  • RaiderRockstar

    Barnes vs Watson – Day 1 of the competition

  • Thec

    LUCAS FREEKIN NIX

  • RaiderRockstar

    Levi Damien‏@LeviDamien1m
    Pryor with another pass batted at the line. That makes six this minicamp for Pryor

  • RaidingTexas

    Cano!

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    flynn struggling in the red zone?

    you mean the way he did with seattle?

    is he best between the 20′s as some have suggested here (me)

    bad news for flynn in the red zone pryor is a machine

  • RaiderRockstar

    is Nix competing with Brisiel for the starting RG spot?

  • theghostronin79

    Having this many batted balls, I HAVE to think the D is playing better as well. This isn’t typical. Everybody’s getting batted, Flynn and Wilson too.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Levi Damien‏@LeviDamien1m
    Bilukidi in backfield on Pryor quick. Forces throw into turf

    Steve Corkran‏@CorkOnTheNFL1m
    Christo Bilukidi pressures Terrelle Pryor, who spikes the ball to avoid a sack.

    Tyler_Wilson8 with nice throw to Andre Holmes.

    Tyler_Wilson8 finds Marcel Reece in the flat. Decent pass, nice grab.

  • the famous dr robert

    Inonewordraider Says:
    June 13th, 2013 at 12:33 pm
    Arm strength and work ethic? If those two things don’t actually combine to make u better than the other guy, then no.

    Flynn is a better PASSER. The end.
    _______________________________
    levi says pryor was better yesterday. cork tweeted pryor is on fire today.

    so Flynn isn’t noticeably better. pryors dual threat ability has to make him the better option if this keeps up no?

    sure you’re not more interested in bein right than the raiders winning?
    ********
    I said I want Pryor to succeed. Why is that ignored?

    The preseason games will show everything.

    Why is it that mini camp and OTA’s mean little unless they prove Pryor is good? Then suddenly they mean everything.

    C’mon.

  • hwnrdr

    theghostronin79 Says:
    June 13th, 2013 at 12:42 pm
    Having this many batted balls, I HAVE to think the D is playing better as well. This isn’t typical. Everybody’s getting batted, Flynn and Wilson too.

    Maybe FINALLY the D Line or the LBs are taught to raisse your hands even if you can’t get there…hopefully!

  • RaiderRockstar

    Levi Damien‏@LeviDamien1m
    Reece dives to scoop up low Wilson throw

    Steve Corkran‏@CorkOnTheNFL36s
    Brandon Bair bats away pass from rookie Matt McGloin.

  • Priesttj12

    Guys let Pryor do his thing man and stop worrying about what a couple of fools has to say. All it does is make the blog hard to read. Going back and forth with some idiot hater is a waste of time. Let them hate!

    It matter not what they think. What’s very encouraging is the chemistry of this team is coming together as we speak and the cream will rise to the top every time. Competition brings out the best in some and the worst in others.

    This will be a hotly contested camp and it’s for the good of this team. I feel we are in the embryonic stages of maybe biulding something over the next few years. I still think we need a true HC but the talent may be more than I thought. We’ll see in camp and during the season. I have serious questions about the depth and the Dline and but I do see great potential at LB if Burris and Moore can become what they seem to be. With Charles bakc there I have some calm about the secondary.

    However offensively the WR’s are way too young and the TE’s while very talented way tooo young. That is mistakes waiting to happen. WE’re going with a very young trigger man no matter which one they chose. But if the running game can carry the O and the D shows much better than I think. This could be a fun team to watch grow into something. It wont be this year but if they improve enough this year the following year could have it’s surprises.

    One thing for sure the O has a lot of speed and size and playmaking ability. I feel very strongly that if Pryor can get to where he needs to be this team could rise very fast if all things turn out all they seem to be doing. However I’m not real sure about any of it I’m just trying to be as positive as I can.

    The one thing for sure is we need a HC who is more of a leader and commander than the one we have at present for any of it to work. That much I’m certain of.

  • the famous dr robert

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    June 13th, 2013 at 12:42 pm
    flynn struggling in the red zone?

    you mean the way he did with seattle?

    is he best between the 20’s as some have suggested here (me)

    bad news for flynn in the red zone pryor is a machine
    *******
    Thought u said these things don’t count much.

    Suddenly they do.

    Laughable.

  • Marks hair

    your point is ridiculous as always… I guarantee you nobody is going to throw away their 3rd string quarterback to take McGloin of our practice squad just because Chris Martin said made up a report that everyone realizes, ( except you) is b.s…..

    here’s some more ” national buzz”… McGloin will win the NFL MVP this year!

    hey look at that! its in print and someone else somewhere in the nation has read it.. now its national buzz so it’s true! weeeeeee

  • RaiderRockstar

    McGloin gets rare second chance. McGuffie can’t pull in wide TD pass

  • Priesttj12

    hwnrdr Says:
    June 13th, 2013 at 12:44 pm
    theghostronin79 Says:
    June 13th, 2013 at 12:42 pm
    Having this many batted balls, I HAVE to think the D is playing better as well. This isn’t typical. Everybody’s getting batted, Flynn and Wilson too.

    Maybe FINALLY the D Line or the LBs are taught to raisse your hands even if you can’t get there…hopefully!
    ******************************************
    It’s because they’re in shells, that’ll change when camp is here and they actually start playing and practicing football the way it’s really played.

  • inonewordraider

    I said I want Pryor to succeed. Why is that ignored?

    The preseason games will show everything.

    Why is it that mini camp and OTA’s mean little unless they prove Pryor is good? Then suddenly they mean everything.

    C’mon.
    ________
    I just want the raiders to win, so whoever gives us the best chance is my choice

    that’s why if pryor is close to Flynn accuracy wise, I say pryor is obvious choice because of the run threat and deep pass threat

    but you’re right, preseason matters most

  • Marks hair

    thanks priest you’re right I don’t know what I was thinking engaging that guy in any real attempt at a sports conversation….

  • RaiderRockstar

    it sounds like QB play today is good, bad & average.

    #inconsistant

  • theghostronin79

    Steve Corkran‏@CorkOnTheNFL1m
    Menelik Watson at RT, Lucas Nix at right guard, Tony Bergstrom at left guard.

    =============

    Could be a Beastly Line

  • the famous dr robert

    Priesttj12 Says:
    June 13th, 2013 at 12:44 pm
    Guys let Pryor do his thing man and stop worrying about what a couple of fools has to say. All it does is make the blog hard to read. Going back and forth with some idiot hater is a waste of time. Let them hate!
    *******
    Nobody hates him u liar.

    U want that. But no one does.

    I like how u have hated everything Reggie has done. And suddenly u think there’s talent.

    Ur pointless.

  • inonewordraider

    Steve Corkran ‏@CorkOnTheNFL 59s
    Flynn misfires on passes to Darren McFadden and David Ausberry.

  • theghostronin79

    Matt’s having trouble today.

  • Scourge

    Afternoon, all!

    Did i read right….P-man (Purvisman) got banned?!

  • the famous dr robert

    Marks Hair Says:
    June 13th, 2013 at 12:45 pm
    your point is ridiculous as always… I guarantee you nobody is going to throw away their 3rd string quarterback to take McGloin of our practice squad just because Chris Martin said made up a report that everyone realizes, ( except you) is b.s…..

    here’s some more ” national buzz”… McGloin will win the NFL MVP this year!

    hey look at that! its in print and someone else somewhere in the nation has read it.. now its national buzz so it’s true! weeeeeee
    *******
    Ur like a child to talk to.

    No sense.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Steve Corkran‏@CorkOnTheNFL3m
    Flynn misfires on passes to Darren McFadden and David Ausberry.

    Steve Corkran‏@CorkOnTheNFL3m
    Flynn has another pass batted away at the line.

  • the famous dr robert

    Scourge Says:
    June 13th, 2013 at 12:49 pm
    Afternoon, all!

    Did i read right….P-man (Purvisman) got banned?!
    ******
    I haven’t heard that. Did he?

  • RaiderRockstar

    Steve Corkran‏@CorkOnTheNFL1m
    Pryor for Mychal Rivera in the end zone. Broken up by Brandian Ross.

    Tyler_Wilson8 threads one in to Travionte Session for a touchdown.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Levi Damien‏@LeviDamien3m
    Criner with really nice leaping catch in corner of endzone from Flynn

  • Priesttj12

    Lets just focus on the team and what we think. Enough of this Pryor vs Flynn stuff. What do you guys really think about the team at this juncture?

    Not if they can compete, I mean the roster itself. What’s your opinion?

  • inonewordraider

    Steve Corkran ‏@CorkOnTheNFL 1m
    .@Tyler_Wilson8 threads one in to Travionte Session for a touchdown.

    _________
    comp heating up!

  • Whoknows

    Hey Dr., so what time is your flight tomorrow anyways?

  • the famous dr robert

    Scourge Says:
    June 13th, 2013 at 12:49 pm
    Afternoon, all!

    Did i read right….P-man (Purvisman) got banned?!
    *******
    I know my impostor was banned. Maybe purvis was my impostor.

    Lol. He was always suggesting I was my impostor arguing with myself.

    That would be weird if he was the impostor and then also coming on saying it was me, trying to make me look weird. Which would make him seriously weird.

    Didn’t think he had a vendetta against me.

  • the famous dr robert

    Whoknows Says:
    June 13th, 2013 at 12:54 pm
    Hey Dr., so what time is your flight tomorrow anyways?
    *******
    U seriously are a sh1tty person.